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Lisa
houde,
cob:
well,,
I
mean,.
If
you're
the
planning
board,
they
would
talk
for
6
h.
so
it
depends
on
how
much
you
guys
want
to
discuss.,
but
I
would
say
I
have
about
half
an
hour
of
presentation.
I'm:
sure
we
can
probably
manage
that.
thank
you.
yeah,.
I
would.
I'm:,
just
gonna.
Also
second
jill..
I
I
need
to
head
out
it..
I
was
gonna,
say
6
32,,
so
that
that
works.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
all
right,,
so
I'll
get
started
with
our
eightyu
presentation..
So
let
me
get
up
there.
so
the
purpose
of
this
presentation.
today
we
heard
that
you
were
interested
in
hearing
some
background
just
overall
on
a
to
use,
and
how
they're
processed
right
now
in
boulder,.
So
I
have
some
slides
on
that,
and
can
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
There.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
obviously,
as
a
board,,
you
all
review
the
variances
to
the
size,,
the
maximum
size
of
a
to
use..
So
you
kind
of
touch
a
to
use
in
a
way
that
other
boards
don't
necessarily..
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
make
sure
to
give
you
an
overview
of
how
the
ordinance
might
be
changing
in
coming.
Months.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
we've
been
to
the
housing
advisory
board,
planning,
board
and
city
council
with
a
very
similar
presentation,
kind
of
split
int0,
3
main
questions,,
as
was
in
the
memo
that
you
were
provided..
So
I
have
it
kind
of
split
up
with
that
main
section
about
the
background.
and
then
the
3
questions
where
we
can
kind
of
stop
and
talk
and
have.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
whether
that's
an
attic
apartment
or
basement
apartment
or
an
addition,
a
lot
of
times,
we'll
see
it
as
a
detached
day
to
you,,
which
means
it's
in
a
separate
structure,.
So
it
might
be
a
conversion
of
a
garage
or
an
apartment
above
a
garage,
something
like
that,,
but
really
an
80..
You,
it's
just
a
small
residence
that
shares
its
lot
with
a
larger
main
house,
and
that's
what
makes
it
access
read.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
but
it
really
is
an
independent
and
self
contained
living
space..
So
it
has
to
have
a
kitchen,
bathroom,
bedrooms.
things
like
that
to
make
it
really
a
housing
unit.
The
current
housing
require,
or
the
current
ad
you
requirements
in
boulder
are
listed
on
this
slide,
s0
0nly,
certain
properties
in
the
city
are
eligible..
Not
every
property
can
have
an
80..
You
have
to
have
a
minimum
lot
size
of
at
least
5,000
square
feet..
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
We
also
have
a
number
of
other
zoning
standards
that
regulate
the
design
and
location
of
a
to
use..
So
this
graphic
kind
of
shows
things
that
you
probably
hear
a
lot
about..
So
setbacks
are
things
like
that.,
but
all
of
these
different
standards
that
are
in
our
land
use
code
that
apply
to
a.
to
so.
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Lisa
houde,
cob::
these
are
just
a
few
slides
on
the
80,.
You
approval
process..
So
there
are
a
couple
of
steps
to
getting
an
80..
You
approved..
If
a
homeowner
wants
to
add
an
accessory
to
all
in
it
to
their
lot.,
they
have
to
first
start
with
an
administrative
review
application..
So
an
accessory
drawing
unit
is
called
a
conditional
use
in
our
land
use
code..
So
they
have
to
go
through
an
administrative
review.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
That
means
that
there's
a
public
notice
that
sent
out
to
the
adjacent
property
owners
within
10
days
of
the
application
being
filed,
and
then
from
the
staff
side.
It's
reviewed
by
the
planners
and
the
building
code.
Reviewers
do
a
initial
cursory,
review,
and
engineers
all
look
at
it.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
that
that
consists
of
the
administrative
review.
now,
your
place
in
this
actually
comes
before
that,,
because
if
it's
identified
that
they
need
a
variance
in
the
maximum
floor
area
of
that
80
you
they
have
to
come
to
you
for
approval,
first,
and
so
that's
before
they
would
even
get
to
go
through
the
administrative
review.
Application.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
but
if
they've
gone
through
that
and
the
administrative
review
application,
and
it
gets
approved,,
they
are
required
to
record
a
declaration
of
use,,
which
is
a
legal
document.
That's
like
recorded
with
the
property
with
the
county
that
says
that
they
agree
to
all
the
rules
that
come
along
with
having
an
eightyu,
and
they've
signed
that,
and
it
stays
with
the
property.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
then
the
application
goes
again
through
a
full
review
by
our
zoning
staff..
Our
building
code
reviewers
do
their
full
review
of
the
whole
building
code,
and
then
the
engineers
review
it
for
compliance
as
well.,
so
typical
building
permit..
They
go
through
inspections.
things
like
that.
Get
their
letter
of
completion
when
they've
completed
all
of
their
work.
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Katie
crane,
boza:
between
the
approval
of
the
first
application,
or
like
how
long
the
first
application
takes.
yeah,
like,.
How
long
does
first
application
like??
How?
If
I'm
applying?-
and
I
do
my
first
application
about
how
much
longer,
what
period
of
time
can
I
expect
to
elapse
before
the
second
application?.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
then
the
bottom
2
are
kind
of
more
general
pet,
all
trying
to
clarify
and
simplify
the
regulations,
as
we
have
them
now,,
and
also
improving
the
approval,
process.
so
kind
of
what
we
touched
on
on
the
last
slide..
So
it's
those
4
things
that
we're
going
to
be
focused
on
with
these
upcoming
ordinance
updates.
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Lisa
houde,
cob::
this
is
just
an
overview
of
the
plan
for
public
engagement
that
we're
doing
this
year.
Council
really
wanted
us
to
focus
on
getting
input
from
our
the
appointed
board..
So
we've
been
like,,
I
said,
to
planning
board
and
housing
advisory
board.
we're
here
with
you
tonight,,
and
then
we
also
had
a
study
session
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
with
city
council.-.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
for
instance,
for
the
size
limits
in
the
questionnaire
in
2,018..
There
was
actually
a
lot
of
support
for
increasing
the
size
limits,,
but
that
wasn't
ultimately
adopted
in
2,018.,
so
we're
kind
of
using
that
outreach
that
we
got
then
to
help
inform
these
these
attack..
These
changes,
this
time,
too.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
As
far
as
the
input
that
we've
been
getting
this
year.,
we
went
t0
0ur
community
connectors
in
residence
group,.
Which
is
really
great?
Group.-
if
you
haven't
heard
of
it
that
the
city,
it's
a
group
of
community
connectors,,
that
kind
of
represent
the
underrepresented
groups
in
boulder
and
give
input
on
city
policies
and
initiatives.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
kind
of
the
benefits
and
burdens
of
those
projects.,
so
we
had
a
great
discussion
last
month
about
a
to
use
with
them..
They
supported
the
and
elimination
of
the
saturation
limit
and
increasing
the
size
limit,,
especially
noting
that
that
would
help
provide
housing
options
for
families
if
they
could
be
a
little
bit
larger
units.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
They
also
gave
some
great
po
programmatic
suggestions
and
things
that
could
be
improved,
like
perhaps
reduced
fees
for
lower
income.
Folks,
just
to
make
sure
that
the
people
that
are
benefiting
from
a
to
use
that
there's
widespread
benefit
around
the
city
from
a,
to
use
being
more
permissive..
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
we
talked
to
with
planning
board..
They
also
supported,,
eliminating
the
saturation
limits
and
increasing
the
size
limits,,
as
well
as
the
clarification
changes..
They
did
express.
some
concerns
about
kind
of
the
potential
externalities
of
a
to
use..
If
we
didn't
have
a
saturation
limit.,
so
we
discussed
that.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
but
just
generally,
for
general
knowledge,
80
s
have
been
allowed
in
boulder
since
1983..
We
have
about
a
slightly
over
450
0f.
Those
80
s.
exist
in
the
city,,
and
then
the
evaluation
went
through
the
size
and
type
and
affordabilities,
that
of
the
eighties
that
have
been
approved
in
that
time..
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
This
is
just
a
graph
that
shows
you,
as
I
mentioned,
that
we've
been
allowing
80
you
since
1,983.,
but
you
can
kind
of
see
how
the
regulatory
changes
over
time
have
impacted.
the
number
of
eighty-s
that
were
approved
each
year,.
So
you
can
see
there
were
not
a
not
many
a
to
use
up
until
at
least
2,000,.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
then
we
started,
seeing
increases.,
but
the
big
thing
to
see
is
what
happened
in
2019,
with
the
most
recent.
after
the
most
recent
changes,,
a
really
significant
jump
in
the
number
of
eighty-s..
It's
taken,,
you
know.,
it's
come
back
down.
since
then
it
was
kind
of
built,
up.
demand,
as
those
changes
were
coming
into
place.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
that
allowed,
I
think,
about
40.,
we'll
get
to
another
slide
about
40
additional
80
to
be
built,,
increasing
the
maximum
size..
Many
of
the
80
s.
that
came
through
took
advantage
of
the
larger
size
we
in..
We
decrease
the
minimum
w
size
requirement,,
which
allowed
a
few
more
80
to
be
built.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
and
then
we
also
found
these
potential
other
improvements
that
are
now
kind
of
worked
into
the
scope
of
these
upcoming
changes,.
So
eliminating
the
saturation
limit,
reconsidering
floor
area
and
then
some
other
things
like
extending
approval,
expirations,
giving
an
option,
or
for
flexibility
of
height.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
and
the
evaluation.
it
was
composed
of
both
that
data
analysis.
Where
we
looked
at
all
those
80
us,
we
talked
to,,
we
did
interviews
of
people
that
had
withdrawn
their
eightyu
applications,
and
you'll
see.
On
a
couple
of
later
slides..
We
looked
at
all
of
the
inquire
boulder,,
which
is
our
customer
service.
Portal.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
we
also
interview,,
or
we
did
a
survey
of
all
of
the
eightyu
owners..
It's
something
that
we've
done
in
20122017
and
then
2022..
So
it's
nice
because
we're
able
to
compare
that
over
time,
the
responses..
So
we
worked
with
our
colleagues
at
housing
and
human
services
to
send
out
a
survey.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
we
got
212,
with
responses,,
which
is
almost
a
50%
response,
rate.
and
some
of
the
there..
This
is
all
in
the
evaluation
as
well.,
but
some
of
the
highlights.
for
that
a
greater
percent
percentage
of
eighty-s
are
being
used
as
space
for
visitors
and
relatives
compared
to
previous
years..
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
one
of
the
things
that
council
wanted
us
to
look
into
from
the
outside
of
this
project,
was
whether
we
should
allow
more
than
1
80
you
per
lot,,
and
that
survey
actually
showed
that
over
3
quarters
of
people
that
own
an
80,
you
would
not
be
interested
in
a
second
a
to
use..
So
that
was
a
helpful.
D
Lisa
houde,
cob:.
We
also
have
been
doing
a
bunch
of
comparable
city
research
over
the
last
several
months,
while
we
were
doing
the
evaluation,
just
trying
to
understand
the
regulations
of
other
cities
and
cities
that
maybe
our
similar
population
size,
or
also
have
a
university
or
things
like
that..
There's.
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Nikki
mccord,
boza:,
if
you
decide
to
build
an
affordable
ad
you,.
What
does
that
mean
to
the
road
parking
requirement.?
And
I
guess
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
that
is
because
we
do
deal
with
parking
setbacks.,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
the
relationship
is
between
partner
requirements
and
setbacks.
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D
Lisa
houde,
cob:,
that's
where
people,.
If
they
aren't
able
to
meet
those
2
parking
spaces
on
site,,
they
can
go
the
affordable
route,
and
they
only
have
to
provide
one
parking
space..
So
we
were
trying
to
understand
the
intent
of
the
people
that
were
choosing
the
affordable
to
you,,
and
we
saw
that
40%
of
them
were
doing
it
to
eliminate
that
parking.
Requirement.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
owner
occupancy,
or
off
street
parking,
requirements.,
so
kind
of
runs
the
gamut,,
but
definitely
something
that's
been
coming
up
at
the
state
level
as
well,
and
governor
polis
and
his
state
of
the
state
address
just
last
month
identified
housing
as
one
of
his
main
priorities..
So
we're
kind
of
anticipating
to
hear
more
to
see
if
colorado
takes.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
alright,,
so
I
mentioned
that
this
presentation
split
int0,
3
main
questions,,
which
we're
also
in
your
memo..
So
that's
kind
of
how
I've
organized
it.
so
we'll
start
with
saturation
limits
and
get
into
size.
Limits.,
then
the
kind
of
general
clarification
and
simplification
things.
D
Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
these
are
areas
of
focus
like
I
already
showed
you
on
this
slide.
those
4
items,
we'll
start
with
the
saturation
limit..
I
know
I've
mentioned
it
already,
a
couple
of
times.,
but
just
to
explain
what
the
saturation
limit
is,.
It's
actually
something
that's
been
in
place
in
the
80
regulations,
since
they
were
first
adopted
in
1,983.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
We
we
would
like
to
consider
having
an
80
0ver,
the
garage
of
our
home.,
but
we
need
to
confirm
that
the
location
isn't
saturated..
How
do
we
do
that
without
going
through
the
whole
application,
paying
the
fee,
going
through
all
of
that,,
because
it
really
is
kind
of
the
initial
barrier
for
all
of
these
80
use.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
So
this
brings
us
t0
0ur.
First
question..
I
am
hoping
to
just
have
a
discussion
with
you,
all,
or
if
you
have
any
comments
or
questions
about
the
proposed
elimination,,
so
we'd
be
eliminating
the
20
saturation
limit,.
So
there
would
no
longer
be
any
saturation
limit
for
those
properties
in
the
rl.
one
and
rl.
2
districts.
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Katie
crane,
boza:
and
so
you're
katie
crane,
boza:,
proposing
just
entirely
eliminating
the
saturation
limits.
s0
0bviously.
You
probably
you
know,
not..
Everybody
is
gonna
all
of
a
sudden
apply.,
but
those
12
would
get
cleared,
and
and
it
might
attract
more..
Have
you
guys
sort
of
done
any
internal.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
I
think
the
intent
was
to
try
to
do
it
after
2
years,,
but
because
of
covid
it
just
kind
of
took
longer..
So
it
was
3
years.,
but
I
think
absolutely
any
future
code
changes,.
You
know
it's
always
helpful
to
look
back,
and
I
think
that
this
evaluation
that
has
really
informed
these
next
steps
of
what
actually
makes
a
difference.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
yeah.,
lisa,
houde,,
cob:
okay..
So
now
I'm
talking
about
size
limits..
So
these
are
you.
As
we've
talked
about
already.,
you
see
these
4
area
variances,,
but
just
going
back
because
they're,
it's
a
little
confusing
because
they're
different
for
different
things.,
but
the
attached
unit
has
to
be
either
one
third,
the
size
of
the
main
house,
or
a
1,000
square
feet,.
Whichever
is
less.
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Jill
lester,
boza:,
so
again,
referencing
back
to
that
time
of
that
council
meeting..
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
the
550
square
feet
was
completely
arbitrary
from
the
perspective
of
the
people
that
worked
it
through
the
system..
It
was
something
that
a
council
member
brought
up,
and
that's
what
got
passed..
It
was
not
what
was
recommended.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
then,.
So
in
that
evaluation
we
looked
at,.
I
kind
of
gave
a
brief
summary
of
this.,
but
if
you
just
digging
down
into
even
more
details,
so
the
average
size,
like
I
said,
is
640.,
but
it's
kind
of
interesting
to
look
at
the
detached
and
attached,
and
how
that
affected.
The
sizes
based
on
affordable
and
market
rate.
so,,
like
I
said,,
detach
unit
maximum
is
550..
We
saw
that
average
right
at
550.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
one
thing
that
came
up
a
lot
in
our
interviews
of
staff
interviews
of
people
that
have
applied
was
that
the
way
that
floor
area
is
measured
for
a
to
use
is
really
confusing,
because
it's
different
than
any
other
building
in
our
land
use
code..
So
if
you
look
at
that,
top,
right,,
this
is
kind
of
this-
is
actually
an
exactly
550
square
foot
detached
day
to
you.
floor
plan.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
but
if
you
look
in
that
kind
of
inset
picture
on
the
right,,
there's
actually
really
it.
it's
more
significant
than
you
would
think.
difference
between
whether
you
measure
from
the
inside
wall
or
the
ex
exterior
wall,
or
how
80
us
are
written..
It
can
be
6
inches
from
the
interior,
wall.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
the
application
can
take
a
lot
longer
if
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
between
the
city
or
the
things
like
that.,
so
floor
area
is
just
something
that
trips,
basically,
everybody
up,
that
has
to
deal
with
it..
So
the
recommendation
that
came
out
of
the
evaluation
was
to
try
to
make
it
more
consistent
with
how
we
measure
floor.
Area.
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Lisa
houde,,
cob:
and
all
other
types
of
buildings.,
so
I
just
wanted
to
explain.
That.
and
then
als0
0ne
thing
about
floor
areas..
It
has
to
include
the
walkway
or
the
egress
up
to
the
eightyu.
so,.
Even
though
this
is
a
550
square
foot,
80,
you,,
they
still
have
to
count
the
stairway
up,,
and
so
that's
really
not
usable
space..
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
Now
you
are
featured
on
this
slide.,
so
those
are
variances..
We've
looked
at
all
of
the
variances
that
were
approved
for
maximum
floor
area
from
29
t0
22.
there
were
4
variances
approved..
What
was
interesting
was
that
all
4
were
very
similar
situations,,
which
you
might
remember.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
depending
on
what
time
you
were
at
the
on
the
board,,
but
they
all
exceeded
1,000
square
feet,.
So
you
can
see
the
size
range
from
a
1,027
up,
t0
1500..
They
were
all
existing
houses
with
a
basement
unit,
that
we're
trying
to
adapt
the
basement
unit
for
an
80
youth,
so
kind
of
interesting
to
see
that
they
were
all
kind
of
similar
situations.
and
then
all
4
were
approved
by.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
is
essentially
what
the
original
recommendations
were
in
2,018,,
maybe
detached.,
and
this
is
where
we're
open
to
hearing
what
you
all
are
thinking
related
to
size
limits..
Since
you
do
see
those
kind
of
larger
80
use
come
through,
and
the
challenges
with
adapting
to
those
size,
limitations.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
but
the
idea
is
that
detached
would
potentially
have
a
maximum
of
800
square
feet,,
which
is
much
more
typical
to
many
cities
around
the
country,
and
then
attached
would
be
either
1,000
square
feet,
or
we
could
do
the
one
half
of
the
principal
unit,
or
a
1,000
square.
Feet,
whichever's
less.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
I
think
that's
all
I
have
on
size
limits,,
so
that
the
question
for
you
all
is
whether
you
have
comments
about
increasing
the
allowable
size
or
a
clarification
of
measurement..
Just
you
all
are
much
more
familiar
with
reviewing
these
variance
cases..
So
I'm
really
interested
to
hear
your
feedback,,
especially
on
this
size,
limit
question,,
and
I
will
stop
sharing
so
that
we
can
all
see
each
other's
face.
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Jill
lester,
boza:
side,
your
setbacks,
and
they
make
it
impossible
to
build
anything.
so
we're
having
to
give
a
side,
yard,
variance.
and
again,.
This
is
probably
you
would
probably
be
better
at..
I
mean
I
have
my
personal
experience
with
it,,
but
I
still
think
you
the
better
expert
to
answer
that
question
and
make
it
really
clear
what
we're
talking
about
here.
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:,
but
a
lot
of
times..
If
you've
got
a
property,
that's
smaller.!
That
means
you
have
a
smaller
floor
area
or
far
ratio.,
which
means
that
it's
likely
that
your
80
is
gonna
be
limited
even
more
to
a
smaller
size,,
because
smaller
a
lot
smaller
house,,
smaller
structures
means
smaller
eightyu..
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:,
but
sometimes
that's
not
always
the
case,,
which
is
why,,
there's
the
path
board
for
a
variance
to
kind
of
go
beyond
that
one-third
or
1000
0r.
What
not.?
And
we
also
have
a,
and
I
don't
want
to
digress,,
but
we
have
a
floor
area
variance
for
the
general
for
the
overall
property
that
doesn't
even
tie
into
it..
So.
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Jill
lester,
boza:.
So
because,
if
you're
building
new,,
you
should
be
able
to
build
a
1,000
square
foot
a
to
you,
or
1,200,,
whatever
ends
up
being,
and
and
and
make
your
access
to
the
spaces,,
so
that
your
common
area
is
going
to
account
for
your
to
the
shared
square
footage..
Is
it
safe
and
fire
safe.
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Jill
lester,
boza:,
they
use
their
computer
and
they
measure
and
marine..
You
probably
can
talk
about
this
as
well,
and
they
they.
they
click
on
one
part..
Then
they
click
on
the
next
part.
and
is
it
going
to
fit
on
the
inside
in
the
middle
of
the
wall
or
on
the
outside,
and
they're
all
very
different,
numbers.
marie,?
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
that?
A
little
bit?.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
are
those
typical
things..
I
don't
know,
robbie,.
If
you
have
more
that
you
can
add
to
that.,
but
I
think
it
would
be
challenging,
and
that's
probably
why
the
4
that
we've
seen
have
all
been
existing
structures,,
because
I
assume
that
the
staff
has
given
some
direction
that
that's
something
that
might
be
likely
like
findings
that
could
be
met.
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:
and
real
quick,
and
that's
correct,,
and
that
is
one
thing.
Bosa
looks
at
criteria
specifically,,
which
is,.
Since
you
are
a
quasi
judicial
board,.
You
have
to
find
that
the
criteria
is
being
met
and
specific
t0
80
you
size,
variances.,
you
do
look
at
stuff
like..
Is
it
existing,?
Is
it
not?.
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:
that
would
meet
the
the
size
allowance
for
that
properties.
80,
you.,
so
the
board
does
very
much
depend
on
the
review.
Criteria,
and
the
board
does
not
set
precedence.
so
because
you
did
it
with
one
property,,
it's
going
to
be
completely
different
for
the
next
property,.
If
there
is
one.
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:
and
when
they
do
that
they
have
to
meet
all
the
criteria,
and
the
board
has
to
just
like
with
any
variance,
has
to
find
that
it
meets
that
criteria..
So
it's
really
hard
to
say
that
it's,,
you
know
it's
setting
a
precedent
or
kind
of
paving
the
path
forward
for
larger
units,
because
they
are
all
looked
at
very
individually..
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Robbie
wyler,
cob:,
so
what
you're
thinking
of
is
for
detached
a.
to
use
the
board
would
consider
the
location
of
the
hit..
Usually
it
was
a
historic
structure.
That's
been
there
for
a
while,,
not
meeting
setbacks,.
So
the
board
would
not
review
the
youth,
the
proposed
use,,
which
was
an
eightyu,,
but
they
would
actually
review
the
physicality
of
it.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
just
have
a
couple
of
more
slides
on
these
clarification
items.,
so
I'm
gonna
go
through
each
of
these
bullets
with
just
a
sentence
or
2..
These
are
kind
of
the
ones
that
came
up
through
the
evaluation
rose
to
the
top
as
something
that
it's
just
a
clarifying
item
that
could
make
it
really
make
a
difference
in
reducing
those
barriers
to
a
to
use..
So.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
the
first
is
extending
the
approval,
expiration
period,.
So
an
eightyu
application
that
first
step.
that
application
is
only
valid
for
a
year,
and
we're
finding
that
a
lot
of
people
with
the
concern
current
construction
timelines
permit
timelines.
things
like
that
are
finding
it
really
challenging
to
complete
the
project
in
a
year.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
this
one
kind
of
similar
to
the
work
that
you
all
do..
There
is
currently
no
flexibility
for
the
height
of
existing
structures..
So
the
way
that
the
code
is
written,
says
that
you
can
put
it
into
an
existing
structure,
and
it
can
be
up
t0
25
feet.,
but
there
is
no
there's,
no
variance
option.,
there's
nothing.
You
can
do
if
that
building
is
over
25
feet.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
where,,
if
it's
in
an
existing
structure,
as
long
as
they
weren't,
making
it
taller,,
they
could
get
that
increased
height
to
be
able
to
adaptively
reuse,
existing
structures,
which
arguably
is
less
of
an
impact
to
your
neighbor.
If
it's
a
structure,
that's
already
there,
and
obviously
environmentally,
less
of
an
impact.
to
use
an
existing
structure.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
the
third
one
is
lockable
separation..
This
is
like
really
zoning
deep
in
the
zoning
code,,
but
we
do
get
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
with
people
about
how
an
attached
to
you
has
to
be
separated
by
a
lock
to
door..
It's
just
something:
that's
really
deep
in
the
definitions
in
the
land
use,
code,
and
so
bringing
that
forward
to
the
80..
So
people
understand
that
that's
a
role.
from
the
outset.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
limited
accessory
units,
I
talked
about.
they're
being
detached
accessory
drawing
units
and
attached..
We
actually
also
have
a
third
type,,
which
is
a
limited
accessory
unit,,
which
there's
actually
only
one
of
in
the
entire
city..
It's
essentially
a
nonconforming
duplex.,
and
so
there's
other
avenues
for
that
property,
and
it
just
adds
additional
code,,
language,
and
confusion
for
people.,
so
we'd
be
hoping
to
remove
that
from
the
ordinance.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
I
mentioned
there's
owner
occupancy
requirements,,
so
the
owner
has
to
live
on
site..
We
have
run
into
some
questions
recently
about
how,.
If
a
property
is
owned
by
an
llc.,
how
they
prove
that
the
owner
really
lives
there.,
and
so
I
think,
there's
additional
clarity
that
could
be
added
to
the
code.
That
would
clarify
how
you
would
prove
that
the
llc.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
thanks
for
that
question,
the
temporary
rental
exemption..
So
that
is
something
that
people,.
If
they
leave
like
on
sabbatical
for
less
than
a
year,
live
outside
of
boulder
county.,
they
don't
have
to
get
a
rental
license
to
rent
out
their
house,
while
they're
gone.,
but
there's
been
kind
of
a
question.
A
few
properties
that
come
up
about.
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Nikki
mccord,,
boza:
and
you're
now
talking
to
a
poor
person
or
a
person
in
affordable,
housing,
and
you're
harassing
them
because
they
have
their
car
on
the
street..
It
just
continues
to
compound
the
problem.,
so
this
is
not
for
us..
This
is
not
something
that
we
talk,
about,
or
anything
like
that.,
but
it.
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Jill
lester,
boza:,
which
definitely
you
can't
do,
but
technically,
is
never
enforced..
So
it's
kind
of
one
of
these
complicated
things
that
okay,
don't
put
a
driveway
in
that
can
accommodate
2
cars,.
But
if
you
put
a
drive
when
that
can
accommodate
2
cars,,
if
we
nobody
is
going
to
ticket
you
for
then
you've
gotten
this
car
off
the
street.
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With
the
elimination
of
the
saturation
limit.,
this
would
get
a
lot
simpler
to
be
able
to
do
this
one
step
review..
So
that's
something
that
we'll
be
looking
at
as
well
of
being
able
to
do.
That.
I've
been
looking
at
other
cities.
many
other
cities.
Just
do
the
80
you
review
at
the
same
time
as
the
building
permit..
So
I
definitely
think
that
it's
something
that
can
be
done.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:.
I
guess
we
kind
of
already
went
through
these.,
but
if
you
have
any
comments
on
those
we
can
do
that,.
I
just
have
one
more
slide
with
next
steps
for
this
project.
so,.
After
hearing
from
you
all
tonight,
we're
gonna
start
drafting
the
actual
ordinance,
we'll
be
continuing
the
public
engagement
that
I
talked
about.
Previously.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
the
schedule
right
now
is
that
this
would
go
to
it
goes
all
ordinance.
Changes
have
to
go
to
planning
board
for
their
recommendation.,
so
we
and
we
have
a
public
hearing,,
so
that'll
be
early
april
and
city
council
in
mid
april
for
first
reading.
second
reading
is
when
we
have
the
public
hearing
in
early
may.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
anticipated.,
if
everything
stays
on
schedule,
it'd
be
about
midsummer,
effective
date
of
the
ordinance,
and
that's
where
things
might
start
to
change
for
you,,
because
you
might
see
variances
related
to
the
new
ordinance
or
the
new
size.
Limits,
or
you
might
not
see
any
variances,,
because.
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Katie
crane,
boza:,
I
did..
I
just
had
a
question
on
public
engagement,
like..
What
sorts
of
things
are
you
guys
going
to
do?
To,
you
know,,
inform
the
public
and
get
feedback,
etc.?
yeah.,
so
we'll
be
having..
I
mean
we'll
have
the
typical
public
hearing
process
where
people
can
come
and
get
their
input
to
planning,
born
and
city
council.,
but
we
also
have
our
virtual
public
engagement
page.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
for
a
to
use,
which
we
have
kind
of
like
a
tool
of
that
people
can
get
their
feedback
on
a
to
use.
we're
also
having
a
housing
event..
I
think
it's
next
week
with
some
neighborhood
organizations
where
we're
talking
about
a
number
of
different
housing
code,
changes
that
are
upcoming.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
go
forward.,
so
I
think
that,
as
I
said,
yeah,
it
it's
by
simplifying
the
other
parts
of
the
code
that
we
could
improve
that
process
and
get
that
into
a
one
step
where
people
are
assured
that
the
edu
itself
is
approved
as
long
as
they
can
meet
all
the
building,
permit,
and
typical
requirements
of
any
building.
Permit.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
yeah.
and
I
just
wanted
t0
0ffer..
If,
if
you
guys
have
time
on
an
agenda.,
I'm
happy
to
come
back
as
we
get
the
ordinance
kind
of
more
locked,
down,
or
whether,
or
if
it's
after
the
adoption
of
the
ordinance,,
just
to
explain
what
had
what
happened,
or
what
the
ordinance
ended
up.
Being.
I'm
happy
to
come
back
and
spend
more
time
with
you.
Guys.