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There
were
a
few
barriers
which
I
ryan
scott:
learned,
we're
a
grant.
whether
it
was
the
boulder
public
library..
I
don't
know
if
the
arts
commission
was
overseeing
this,,
but
there
were
a
few
pieces
that
popped
up
with
some
temporary
messaging
that
stood
for
far
too
long..
So
one
of
those
was
where
a
mask-
and
it
was
on
a
barrier
at
ninth
and
pearl.
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Ryan
scott:
and
I
just
kept
being
told.
well,.
It
was
a
grant..
We
can't
do
anything
about
it.
and
then
eventually
those
barriers
were
removed.,
but
I
I
found
that
to
be
kind
of
unfortunate
to
have
to
look
at
that
every
single
day
I
came
down
to
pearl
street..
So
if
you
could
avoid
that
messaging,
moving
forward.
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Ryan
scott:
face
to
face,
and
simply
say,
hello
and
meet
and
greet,,
and
I
don't
intend
on
joining
in
on
every
meeting..
But
I
find
this
general
malays
with
a
lot
of
groups.
they're,
allowing
the
staff
to
meet
in
person,,
but
the
general
public's,
restricted
to
zoom,
and
whatever
controls
you
have
here..
So.
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Ryan
scott:
with
that
being
said,,
it
would
be
very
appreciated
by
folks
at
the
community,
if
you'd
at
least
open
up
your
meetings
to
have
the
chance
for
folks
to
come
by
in
person
and
say
hello
and
offer
perspective..
I
think
you'll
you'll
form
a
better
connection
with
the
public
at
large,
myself
and
other
people
as
they
come
in
and
out.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
want
to
thank
ryan
for
your
comments..
I
love
to
have
the
public
here.
yeah,.
We
would
love
to
have
the
public
honestly.
we
and
and
a
lot,,
and
some
of
us
want
it
to
be
together
in
person
a
lot
sooner
than
we
were
able
to,,
but
these
were
real
set
by
the
city,,
so
we
have
to
honor.
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Ryan
scott:
great.,
I
I
was
just..
I
noticed
there
was
a
notice
on
september
last
year,,
so
that
was
my
only
comments..
So
that's
that's!
Great.
you've
got
got
rid
of
that.,
so
look
forward
to
it,
and
then
I
have
question
concerning
your
first
comment:.
Are
we
in
charge
of
me?
and
we're
not
in
charge
of
maintaining?.
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Deborah
malden:
for
her
extraordinary
service
to
our
community.
oh,,
my
gosh,
kathleen,.
Really
it's
been
exceptional..
I
think
about
how
far
the
boulder
arts
commission's
work
has
come.
the
whole
development
of
the
grants.
Program,
the
roll
out
of
the
community
cultural
plan,,
your
service
on
boards.,
it's
just
your
advocacy,,
your
communication
to
the
community.,
really
our
our
arts
and
culture.
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Deborah
malden:,
the
bulk
of
the
funding,
will
go
to
support
the
general
operating
support
grants
that
were
unable
to
be
funded..
But
I
know
those
are
decisions
that
you'll
be
grappling
with
tonight.
unfortunately,.
I
can't
stay
and
watch
from
afar..
I
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
you
decide,,
but.
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That's
it.,
boulder
arts,
commission:
hey?,
all
that
boulder
arts
commission:
jail
left.
I
attended
this
year..
It
was
exciting,.
This
evident
I
had
understood..
There
were
going
to
be
some
changes
that
in
the
last,,
including
in
the
leadership.,
but
I
didn't
see
that
in
the
report
so
well
that
my
comment
was
that
that
I
I'm
always
excited
to
see
that
we
have.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
and
I
was
glad
to
see
that
they
were
able
to
bring
kevin
smith
on,,
because
he's
got
such
great
programming
experience,
and
that's
kind
of
what
I
I
saw
as
filling
that
role
that
maybe
you
had
a
different
understanding
than
I
did.
I?.
I
know
that
last
year
there
were
questions
about,,
you
know,,
real
ties
with
older
in
the
administration
and
leadership,
and
kevin
is
about
as
well
as
you
can
get
in
my
house.
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arts
commission:,
you
want
to
make
them
so..
How
do
you
want
to
proceed.
oh,
well,?
I
ring
up
my
point,
and
we'll
see
if
there's
anything
we
want
to
do
about
it.,
so
the
color
of
the
music
festival..
The
question
that
I
had
is
about
the
budget,
and
I
don't
have
a
print
out
of
it
in
front
of
me,.
So
it's
not
also
going
to
be
a
little
bit
off.
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arts,
commission:
yeah,
boulder
arts
commission:
spoke
of
the
executive
director
about
that,
and
she
she
brought
it
up.
as
a
matter
of
fact,
if
they
had
great
hopes
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
much
more
fine,
actually
successful
year
than
once,,
and
I
attended
a
few
of
the
performances.,
I
have
to
say
the
the
programming
was
excellent.
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arts
commission:,
we
understand
your
concerns..
My
concern
is
based
in
what
we've
talked
about
in
this
room
in
the
past,,
where
there's
been
other
organizations
that
have,
you
know,
large
deficits
or
issues
on
our
budgets,,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
in
the
past
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
did
some
due
diligence
on
that,
and
I'm
looking
at
the
question
of
sustainability,.
We
talked
about
some
other
organizations
last
month
about
based
on
our
report.
whether
they
were
sustainable
on
the
board.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
and
I
feel
completely
comfortable,,
based
on
what
you're
adding
your
recommendation..
The
fact
that
I
have
seen
just
so
much
evidence
coming
out
of
them
that
they
are
just
growing
in
this
international
stature
that
they're
going
to
be
around,
and
that
they're
moving
forward
with
really
high
quality
programming..
So.
A
Boulder
arts,
commission:
okay.,
you
have
to
have
our
representation
of
the
city
back
in
that.,
that's
it.,
it's
meaningful
to
all.
gm.,
but
they
haven't..
You
know
the
the
the
executive
director
has
expressed
that
time
and
again,
how
pressure
that
they
are.
it's
the
way,,
you
know,
for
these
extra
large
organizations,
we're.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
in
bold
or
miss
out,,
you
know..
So
that
was
my
question
at
the
time
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
it
was
covid..
So
I
think
we
gave
a
lot
of
different
arts
to
the
past
during
covid..
But
now
I'm
looking
at
it.,
I'm
saying,
okay,
2
out
of
the
3
g.
os.
5
years
are
incubation
years.
This
year,,
which
is,
they
may
have.
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
so
I
just
wondered
if
anyone
else
had
those
concerns,
and
I
may
be
misinterpreting
this.
I've
seen
never
before.
it's
wonderful,,
but
I
also
would
love
it
if
they
do
something
every
near,
and
bulger,
you
know,
or
the
for
them
a
little
bit
of
grant..
We
give
them.
Another.
Small
group.-.
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
I
don't
think
we
asked
a
lot
of
boulder
arts
commission:
yeah.
well,.
This
is
correct,.
You
know.
ask
a
lot
of
specific
questions,
about..
What's
your
intention?
right?
for
next
week,
we
we
mostly
hear
about
what
they've
done
in
the
past,
and
they've
worked
with
the
partnerships,
and
and
that's
sort
of
the
strength
of.
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Boulder
arts
commission:-
I
I
guess
I
ask
this
because
I
know
this
may
come
up
again,,
so
I'm
kind
of
asking
this,
is
it?.
Are
we
saying??
Have
we
already
set
a
president
like??
Should
we
see
if
our
guest
has
we
all
shoot??
They
also
like
do
workshops
or
something.,
so
that's
yeah,
reaching
people
on
that
right?
right?.
I
guess.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:
and
I'm
sure
that
you've
all
read
the
response
that
I
put
together.,
but
you
know,,
even
in
our
last
year,,
where
we
didn't
necessarily
have
income
generating
boulder
programming..
We
were
still
performing
for
the
bolder
community.,
so
we
did
actually
do
a
collaboratory
performance
as
part
of
boulder
arts
week
at
the
museum
of
boulder.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:.
We
still
calculate
that
our
community
outreach
in
terms
of
the
audience
reach
that
we
had,,
which
was
really,.
I
think
I
I'm
not
looking
at
the
numbers
right
now,,
but
I'd
like
to
say
it's
4
to
500
people
that
we
still
got,
you
know,
saw
our
work
last
year,
and
again,.
You
have
to
realize
that
we're
in
the
lowest
tier.,
I
think
we're
in
the
lowest
tier
or
one
of
them.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:,
I
will
say
that
we're
planning
on
doing
2
public,
facing
bolder
income,,
generating
events
this
year.
and
to
be
honest,.
I
think
that
both
2023
and
24
will
have
bolder
based
performances,,
just
knowing
what
we've
been
incubating..
So
we've
really
got
3
projects
that
we've
been
working,
on.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:,
and
I
I'm
trying
to
think
if
there's
any
other
questions
that
come
up..
I
definitely
think
that
I
can
approximate,
even
you
know,.
If,
if
we're
talking
about
looking
forward
to
the
next
grant
cycle,,
I
can
approximate
how
many
of
those
programs
or
income
generating
productions
can
happen
in
3
years..
I
just
might
be
off
by
one
or
2
like,,
even
if
you
asked
me
to
do
that
in
advance.,
I
probably
could
do
that
in
terms
of
the
pacing
of
our
company.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:-
I
do
you
know,.
I
think
we've
always
known
that
we
were
not
a
company
that
could
produce
a
normal,,
regular
season,,
like
other
theater
companies.
and
the
more
we
grew,
the
more.
We
were
at
peace
with
the
fact
that
we
really
needed
to
take
the
time
to
do
the
high
quality
work.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
it's
kind
of
about
the
reach,,
but
it's
not
about
to
reach
that,.
You
know.,
it's
fine
that
people
show
up
to
a
performance,
that's
by
people
that
we
turn
on
to
something
cool,
or
we
help
to
turn
on
to
some
form..
So
I'm
not.,
you
know.,
I'm
not
as
worried
about
the
actual
numbers,,
just
the
fact
that
there
was
a
tangible
performance
or
2
over
3.
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Colleen
mylott
band
of
toughs:
and
yeah,
to
be
honest
with
you,
lauren,.
It
probably
is
because
we've
gotten
funding
before,,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
was
even
called
geos
at
that
point..
I
think
I
think
I'm
categorizing
sort
of
a
third
cycle
in
there
that
might
just
have
been
predated
this.
This
kind
of
shift.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
the
publicity
for
the
workshops.,
but
that
could
be
a
little
more
inclusive,
you
know,
or
for
you
to
repeat
the
workshops
a
couple
of
times
in
your
in
those
innovation
period,,
so
that
more
people
get
to
know
you,
you
know,,
so
that
there
is
more
benefit
to
the
community..
I
guess
that
would
be
my.
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arts
commission:,
I
noticed
that,
too..
I
also
wanted
to
pull
out.
one
other
thing
that
I
just
remembered
was,.
I
loved
the
idea
of
having
a
petting
zoom
for
instruments
just
going..
I
think
that's
what
they
wanted.
a
panic.,
that's
how
they,
where
they
could
go.
yeah,.
They
were
out
with
them.
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arts,
commission:
georgia,,
sorry,
you
could
have
just
said..
I've
been
doing
this
for
a
number
of
years,
and
I
just
always
and
put
it
up
there
because
somebody
had
to
read
it.:
it's
not
bad
behavior,,
but
you
know
it's
wrong.,
it's
not
very
complex.!
It's
up
there
and
stuff,!
So
you're
right.,
you
direct..
If
it's
in
the
packet
as
you
and
you're,
moving
it
as
written.,
you.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
yeah,,
yeah,
no.
it
sounds
like
they're
they're,
you
know,
she
and
whoever
figuring
it
out,
you
know,
to
keep
it
sustainable.,
and
sometimes
you
get
up
good.
yeah.,
and
this
is
why
we
well,
giving
geos
grants..
So
people
are
figuring
out
what
they
need
to
do
to
be
sustainable.
right?.
So.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
it
was
an
interesting
bunch
of
characters
different
from
the
interesting
characters
we
have
now.,
but
I
I
I
always
enjoy
hearing
what
you
had
to
say..
Sometimes
it
drove
me
a
little
bit
crazy,
because
you
always
had
something
to
say.,
but
then
there
I
forget
what
the
tipping
point
was,,
but
then
I
realized,,
you
know
it's
so
easy,
not
to
say
something.
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
so
thank
you
for
that.
you..
You
gave
me
a
great
example
of
of
your
leadership..
Then
you
said
a
high
benchmark,,
so
I
hope
I'm
coming
even
somewhat
close
to
to
achieving
that..
Do
you
think
you're
succeeding
in
your
jumping?
no,?
Thank
you
for
for
all
the
to
make
the
arts
commission
just
even
more
relevant.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
in
our
community.,
sometimes
we
just
get
a
little
jaded
and
stuff,
and,.
You
know,,
looking
at
all
the
grant,
applications
and
trying
to
put
in
enough
time.,
so
we're
not
just
coming
quickly
over
some
and
more
time
on
others
that
maybe
we're
more
interested
in..
I
always
felt
that
you
put
in
the
same
amount
of
time
to
every
single
thing,
and
then
that
that's
a
great
example
for
our
fellow
commissioners.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
so,
more
than
anything..
Thank
you
for
all
the
time
you've
put
in.
I
I
so
lot
of
time.
We
end
up
doing..
I
don't
think
people
know
exactly
how
much
time
we
put
in,,
but
you
always
you..
I
set
up
a
high
benchmark
for
the
number
of
hours
people
put
in.,
so
so
thank
you..
Thank
you
for
your
service.
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
it's
been
a
great
honor.,
boulder
arts,
commission:
yeah,.
There
are
times
when
I
was
carrying
my
hair
out
as
I'm.
sure,.
You
all
have
late
nights
reading
through
applications,,
but
it
is
really
meaningful,
and
people's
full
lives
are
built
around
their
their
work
in
in
the
art,
unites
and
culture,,
and
I
think
it's
great
that
we
get
the
opportunity
to.
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right.,
so
it
it's
acceptable.,
I'm
just
gonna
go
past
the
questions
about
the
managers.
memo..
If
you
have
any
questions,,
you
know
I'm
in.,
but
for
against
time.
In
the
next
discussion
it's
gonna
take
a
few
minutes..
I
thought
I
would
just
say
one
thing
about
the
managers
update,
and
that
is
that
boulder
ours..
We.
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arts
commission:,
as
for
you,
sure
it's
completely
packed
in
a
whole
bunch
of
super
fun
things..
This
year
we
have
a
full
out
on
the
other
weekly
and
to
pull
out
like
what
it
does..
So
even
I
out
for
all
of
it.
there's
a
time
going
on..
If
you
want
some
recommendations,
we're
doing
like.
actually,.
I
think
we're
gonna
ask
a
couple
of
you
to
help
us
some
some
recommendations,.
So.
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arts
commission:,
I
speaking
out
of
now.,
and
yet
I'm
still
getting
a
baby.
no.,
but
yeah,
so
council
received
that
in
their
packet
as
our
convention.
We
are
the
commission.-
it's
the
got
to
be
recognition
staff..
We
need
to
stick
to
the
original
recommendation
and
council
didn't
have
a
discussion
about
that.,
so
they
approved
the
$2050,000,.
So
they
don't
have
information
on
on
that.
They
do
not
discuss.
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Boulder
arts,
commission:
and
so
do
we
have
latitude
of
like,.
I
think,
what
we'd
originally
talked
about
was
using
the
original
allocation
for
what
we
had
said..
It
would
be
to
any
additional
ongos..
Do
we
have
let
me
to
do
that?
yeah.,
so,
according
to
the
grant's
ordinance,,
it's
up
to
you
to
have
on
how
to
divide
up
the
funding.
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arts
commission:
to
fill
in
for
those
groups
that
it
weren't,
and
he's
saying
that
they
didn't
discuss
that.
yeah..
So
I
I
only
say
that,
because
I
don't
have
anything
further
to
offer
you
from
council
other
than
they
asked
them,
both
right?
so
yes,.
You
can
tell
us
to
divide
that
up.
Differently.
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arts
commission:,
we
don't
discount
that
those
5
organizations
scored
well,,
that
they
would
be
helped
by
us
funding
we've
for.,
but
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
you
know,,
we
didn't
put
that
into
staff
recommendations.
I
mean,
first
of
all,.
It's
because
we've
been
beating
that
drumbeat
through
the
city
council
conversation..
They
are
the
ones
who
said
artists
and
venues
are
the
priority,
and
we,
you
know,
examining
that.,
but
also
we're
not
keen
on
partial
funding.
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Boulder
arts
commission:.
So
what
could
it
look
like
if
we,,
if
we
had
just
the
original
$150,000
over
2
years
for
venues
for
artists.,
does
this
represent?
You?
will
caroline?
and
for
you,
yeah,?
I
I
I
took
the
math
really
quickly,,
based
on
the
pro
that
you
had
originally,
and
it
would
come
out
to
over
2
years,
$42,000
for
the
venues,
and
$108,000.
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That's
boulder
arts,
commission:
what.,
boulder
arts,
commission:
yeah.,
so
that
was
about
several
things
having
to
do
with
recovering
lost
funds
from
lower
tax,
base,,
restarting
programs
that
were
positive
pandemic..
But
for
our
purposes
it's
specifically
about
supporting
industries
that
have
been
most.
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
and
so
the
artist
hiring
incentive,
and
the
arts
administration
hiring
grant
both
of
those
for
tired,
cartridge.
towards
that..
In
this
case,
we
added
venues
because
venues
became
a
discussion
of
portability
of
venues.,
and
so
we
suggest
to
help..
We
already
have
the
rental
assistance.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
so
boulder
arts,
commission:
well,.
I
I
think
we
should
just
try
to
wrestle
with
it.
and
and
but
the
I
I
think,
the
where
we
are.
the
discussion
is.
That
is
one
often
that
you
know,
between
you
and
georgia.
We
sort
of
arrived
at,
and
you
were
saying,
if
the
small
organization
is
more
okay,,
I'm
back
on
practical
sorry.
A
Boulder
arts
commission:
right?
okay..
So
this
is
what
you
were
just
saying..
The
grand
amounts
have
been
reduced
for
large
and
extra
large
organizations
to
make
a
$100,000
work
because
we
were
$92,000
over
standard
giving.,
so
then,
on
the
small
and
mid
for
those,
the
normal
numbers.
okay,.
So
this
I
was
yes,.
So
it's
like
a
mix..
The
alternative
that
I
put
out
there.
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arts
commission:
money
is
in
the
current
budget
right
like
the
leadership
pipeline.
and
the
yeah,
you
know,
we're
gonna
come
back
to
you
with
some
things.,
then
the
realistically..
There
is
always
a
little
bit
of
money
on
grants
that
get
under
spent.,
but
we
we
won't.,
make
a
decision
on
that.
actually.
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Boulder
arts
commission:
we're
like,,
so
boulder
arts
commission:,
a
few
of
us-
are
liking
this,.
So
I
am
happy
to
entertain
a
motion
of
somebody,
but
like
to
make
one,
and
let
me
do
my
point
of
yeah.
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.,
but
georgia,
since
you
were
from
ballet,
I'd,
recommend
you
recuse
yourself
on
this
entire
decision.
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arts
commission:,
I
think,
boulder
arts
commission:.
We
need
to
follow
up
somehow,
and
help
facilitate
this
happening,
and
I'm
not..
I
don't
want
to
get
into
it.
now..
I
don't
know
if
it's
whose
jurisdiction
that
is,,
if
it's
park
and
wreck,
or
if
it's
this,
or
if
it's
that.,
but
whoever
is
handling
that
area.
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A
Boulder
arts
commission:
get
out
in
the
streets
and
express
their
all.,
it's
amazing.,
so
I'm
up
in
mexico.
yeah.
so
for
p.,
but
we
could
do
that,.
You
know
we
could
get
back
to
it.
Right?
yeah,!
That's
one
thing:
I
noticed:
some
result..
It
was
the
same
way.
you
both
dance
and
streets,
all
the
time,
and
it's.
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A
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Boulder
arts
commission:,
do
you
know
what
the
department
did
is
that
they
were
dealing
with??
I
don't
know
if
you
could
ask
her
because
I'd
love
to
be
part
of
a
team
that
works
on
getting
that
area
more
accessible.,
I'm
not
I'm
not
even..
You
know,
I'm
not
a
dancer..
I
would
just..
I
just
love
to
see
people
out
there,
and
it
seems
like
dance,
is
a
good
fit
for
that.
Space,
and
everybody
was
doing
it
before
covid
and
I
missed
that..
I
missed
people
out
there.
Every
evening.