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teague:,
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kristen
teague:
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and
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or
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forms
of
intimidation
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obscenity,
racial
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speech
and
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that
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impedes
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Clab,
tom
kunstman:,
the
session?
so
clab,
robin
noble:,
okay,
great..
Thank
you
so
much.
and
I'm:
so
glad
everybody's
here..
I've
been
dying
to
talk
about
this
subject.
Really,
ever
since
I
joined
clap,
3
plus
years
ago.,
so
we're
going
to
talk
about
cannabis,,
hyper
emmesis
syndrome.,
and
this
is
a
condition
that
my
kid
experienced.
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H
Clab,
robin
noble::
he
is
the
manager
and
medical
consultant,.
First,
the
colorado
department
of
health
and
environment.
he's
going
to
talk
about
this
need
for
a
code,,
a
billing
code
for
chs
specifically..
So
we
know
more
about
how
much
this
is
happening,,
because
I
can
tell
you,
a
bazillion
anecdotes.
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I
Alice
moon:
like
robin
said,,
a
lot
of
money
on
my
medical
bills,
and
doctors
couldn't
figure
out
what
was
wrong
with
me,
until
I
finally
saw
a
specialist
who
diagnosed
me
with
dhs,
and
at
first
I
was
skeptical
as
somebody
who
works
in
cannabis..
I
didn't
necessarily
believe
that
it
could
be
cannabis.
Making
me
sick.
I
Alice
moon:,
so
I
took
a
3
month
break.
I
tried
to
reintroduce
cannabis
into
my
life
again,
and
then,
unfortunately,
I
got
sick..
Then
I
took
another
break,
and
I
tried
to
introduce
cbd
in
my
life,
and
unfortunately
that
led
to
a
16
day
episode,
and
I'm
talking
all
day
every
day
for
16
days..
It
was
a
near
death
experience..
I
was
down
to
£105,
and
I'm
5,
6.
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Alice
moon:,
it
was
very,
very
scary,,
despite
all
that
I'm.
still
100%
pro
cannabis..
I
just
believe
that
we
should
be
researching
it..
We
need
like
robin,
said,,
a
medical
code..
We
need
to
be
keeping
track
of
this
in
our
medical
care
system..
So
we
know
how
many
people
it's
affecting,
and
we
can
work
towards
finding
some
solutions
for
people
who
are
suffering
from
this.
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Iphone
karen:,
we
know
that
cannabis.,
some
frequently
they'll
say
cannabis
is
using
chemo,,
so
it
helps
with
nausea,
and
that's
why
I
took
more.
and
I
get
sick,
and
actually
the
chemo
doses
that
are
recommended
are
remarkably
lower
than
what
is
recommended,
or
what
people
are
taking
recreational..
But
there
are
several
case
reports
currently
now.
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Clab,
robin
noble:
and
had
an
a
different
problem.,
so
it's
like
the
pendulum
has
swung
in
the
other
direction,,
which
is
kind
of
concerning
as
well,,
which
brings
us
to
dr.
richard
holdman,
from
cd.
phg.,
the
colorado
department
of
health,
in
a
public
health
and
environment.
Who
can
talk
about
this
hospital
code?.
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Richard
holdman:,
we
monitor
the
inpatient
and
outpatient
through
the
emergency
department.
and
how
we
do
this
is
through
billing
codes.
So
for
those
that
aren't
aware,
anytime,
you
go
to
the
hospital.
anything.
That's
done
at
all.,
you're
gonna
receive
a
billing
code,,
whatever
it
was
just
talked
about..
If
you
went
through
a
procedure,
things
like
that.
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Richard
holdman:,
so
there
have
been
a
few
richard
holdman:
studies
that
we
also
use
in
collaboration
with
our
data
to
show..
One
of
them,
for
example,
is
by
dr.
sam
wang,
now
to
the
university
of
colorado,,
and
he
attempted
to
show
how
they
could
combine
these
marijuana
codes
with
vomiting
codes
and
see
if
that
could
identify
these
cases.
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Clab,
robin
noble:,
I
mean.
clab,
robin
noble:,
you
know,
for
my
kids,
11
visits..
Nobody
ever
wrote
down
anything
about
this
that
added
to
his
confusion,.
He
was
definitely
coded
for
cannabis.
Misuse,
disorder,,
but
not
it.,
wasn't
related
to
this
vomiting
thing..
So
again,
you
know,.
Facebook
is
what
helped
us
there.
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nathan
dewey:,
but
also
to
go
a
step
forward..
We
are
actually
a
youth
prevention
and
wellness
program..
We
were
originally
with
a
a
a
nonprofit
called
team
for
cons,,
which
is
kind
of
famous
in
in
colorado,
for
helping
to
shut
down
the
cannabis
industry
up
in
fort
collins,
and
at
the
same
time,.
When
I
was
hired
on.,
we
rebirthed
it
and
helped
the
the
retailers
up
in
in
4
cones,
join
their
own
kind
of
cannabis,
retailer
association..
So
just
really
what
we
do
is
we
hold
our.
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Nathan,
dewey:
with
the
idea
that
really
what
they're
buying
into
by
joining
us
is
prevention
for
youth
and
the
wellness
of
youth,
and
to
making
sure
that
you
know
it's
only
used
for
adults,
and
we
don't
even
use
recreational
use..
We
try
to
pin
adult
use,,
and
that
is
something
we
will
be
looking
at
for
moving
forward.
in
the
bolder
community..
We
have
been
doing
cannabis
work
with
retailers,
since
2,015
rr.
has
been
working
with
alcohol
retailers
since
2,004..
Unfortunately,
a
gal.
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Nathan,
dewey:
reinvent
it
for
the
cannabis
industry
since
that
time,
just
a
little
background,,
so
you
can
understand
where
I'm
coming
from
as
well..
I
sit
on
governor
pulses,
meok
committee,
if
you're
not
familiar
with.,
that
is
the
marijuana
education
oversight
committee
for
the
state
of
colorado..
I
sit
on
on
that
board
with
dr.
holdman's
associate
ali
mafi..
We
also
sit
on
there
with
c
dot
with
anti
marijuana
groups,
pro
marijuana
groups,
industry
groups,.
So
it's
a
real
big
mix.-
and
this
is
this-
is
something
I'm.
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Nathan,
dewey:
going
to.,
I
was
going
to
approach
them
with
last
week,,
but
unfortunately
the
meeting
got
postponed..
But
this
is
an
issue
I
will
be
now
confronting
them
with,,
because
it's
not
something.
We
talk
about
a
lot.,
but
after
talking
with
robin,
and
really
doing
some
more
research
on
my
own,
and
and
connecting
with
the
cd.
ph.
as
well..
I
think
it
is
an
issue
we
need
to
talk
about
within
our
community.
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Nathan
dewey:,
so
what
does
that
really?
Mean??
Just
so,,
you
know
I
am
a
but
certified
bug,
tender
trainer
for
the
state
of
colorado
through
the
me.
d.
I
routinely
and
monthly
provide
cannabis
trainings
for
these
folks,,
and
this
is
something
that
I
can
educate
them
on
in
these
trainings
during
the
trainings.
I
already
educate
on
things
like
press
feeding,,
as,
as
we
all
know,
that's
a
danger
for.
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Nathan
dewey:
a
I
wanted
to
be
connected
with
you,
as
kristen
knows:
I'm.,
I'm
heavily
involved
with
bla,
the
boulder
licensing.
Authority..
I've
been
working
with
them
since
2,019,
and
I've
just
had
a
hard
time
getting
into
the
cannabis
industry..
But
it's
something
now,
that
is,
we're
granted
through
a
substance
education
award
through
the
city
of
boulder
and
the
county
of
boulder.,
so
we
have
money..
We
have
money
to
get
these
retailers
on
board,
and
we'll
get
more
into
that
later..
My
main
mission
with
this
now
is
even
as
a
person.
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L
Nathan
dewey:,
there
are
probably
so
many
people
out
there
that
we
can
help
just
like
robin
sent
her
kiddo..
They
didn't
really
know
what
was
going
on..
We
don't
need
to
have
them
go
11
times
to
the
emergency
room..
Let's
get
that
information
out.
There,
and
ourr
is
a
vehicle
to
get
that
out
there..
And
what
do
I
mean
by
that
is,?
I
will
literally
be.
and
then
I
am
actually
now
working
on
some
literature
that
we
can
release
up,
and
for
collins
dispensaries,,
so
that
with
every
single
sale.
L
Nathan,
dewey:
we're
putting
out
this
information
just
like
we've
done
with
press
feeding..
They
will
just
they
will.
and
I'm
telling
you,.
At
least
my
members
now
will
voluntarily
hand
out
this
information,,
even
though
it
may
be
detrimental
to
their
sales,
detrimental
to
their
business.
really,
when
they
join,
or
the
the.
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L
Nathan
dewey:,
so
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
good
vehicle
for
me
to
meet
all
of
you,
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
all
of
you,
and
sort
of
voice.
My
opinion
on
what
can
we
do,,
because
it's
not
just
through
that
sales
that
we
can
do
it.,
but
we
do
like
in
the
city
of
boulder.,
we
do
have.
L
Nathan,
dewey:,
maybe
on
to
bus,
stops
and
things
like
this,
or
whatever
we
need
to
do,
or
at
special
events
in
the
community
concerts
these
sorts
of
things..
We
can
kind
of
get
it
out
to
that
community..
Maybe
if
there's
a
4,,
20
party,,
we
put
that
out
there
where,
where
it
is
in
the
420
party,
and
we
advertise.
so
really
we're
a
vehicle
for
the
community.
we're
a
resource
for
the
retailers,,
but
for
the
community
at
large
as
well
and
like
I
said,
this
is
something
that's
a
little
bit
newer
to
me..
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L
Nathan,
dewey:
that
kind
of
thing.
and
so
again,
we're
not
a
pro
marijuana..
We're
not
anti.
we're
here
to
embrace
the
legalization
of
it
and
make
sure
that
it's
the
safest
possible
thing
for
the
people
who
are
purchasing
it,
and
the
people
who
are
surrounded
by
it..
So
yeah,.
I
guess
that's
it
in
a
nutshell.
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J
Iphone
karen:
and
the
facebook,
the
cannabis,
I
premises.
facebook
group
has
been
like
tremendous
cause.
I
now
actually
have
some
patients
coming
in,
saying,.
I
think
I
might
have
this.
so
that
that's
been
so,.
I
think,
getting
the
knowledge
out
to
the
public
that
this
is
a
a
problem,
and
having
the
buttenders
put
a
brochure
or
speak
about,.
It
would
be
awesome.
I
alice
moon:.
I
worked
with
the
institute
of
safe
medicine
practices,
canada
to
come
up
with
a
brochure
that
they
distribute
through
emergency
rooms
throughout
canada,,
and
it's
a
very
patient,
friendly
brochure,
where
it's
not
fear
mongering
about
cannabis
at
all,,
where
it's
just
straight
to
the
backs,
and
they've
been
distributing
that
for
a
few
years
now,
and
it's
available
to
be
licensed
to
out
other
hospitals..
I
think
it's
just
like
a
couple
of
$100
to
get
the
brochure,
and
then
it
can
be
distributed
wherever
we'd
like.
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B
Clab,
tom
kunstman:
and
I
appreciate
alice.
you're,
telling
your
your
story..
It
reminds
me
of.,
so
I
was
the
medical
director
at
the
student
health
center
on
campus
here,
and
not
somewhere
around.
10
to
12
years
ago,.
I
remember,
I
had
heard
about
cannabis,
hy
premises,
syndrome,
and,
and
there
was
a
student
that
came
in..
I
think
it
was
a
male.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman:
and
I
wondered.
I
suspected-
I
sent
them
off
to
the
gastro
neurologist,,
who
had
never
heard
of
it,
and
thought
I
was,
you
know,
crazy
for
suggesting
it,
and
the
and
the
patient,.
You
know
they
didn't
want
to
hear
that
they
didn't
want
to
hear
that..
You
know
it's
time
to
give
up
our
in
time
to
cut
back
on
cannabis,
or.
B
I
Alice
moon:,
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
in
the
cannabis
industry.,
don't
believe
that
chs
is
real..
I've
been
bullied
non,
stop
for
the
last
5
years
by
people
who
work
in
cannabis,
or
who
are
fans
of
cannabis,.
Who
don't
want
to
believe
that
this
is
real.?
A
lot
of
doctors,
don't
know
about
it.
I've
gone
to
urgent
care,
and
you
know,
educated,
my
own
doctors
when
I'm
getting
an
iv.,
because
I'm
so
sick.
I
Alice
moon:,
you
know
anti-chs
commentary.
When
I
have
the
lived
experience..
I
know
that
it
is
real
and
it's
unfortunate,
and
you
know,,
even
secondhand
smoke,
makes
me
sick,.
So
I
can't
go
to
cannabis
events.
I
can't
go
to
concerts..
I
can't
go
where
there's
ever
public
consumption
allowed,,
because
it
will
make
me
extremely
nauseous
and
potentially
throw
up..
So.
I
I
Alice
moon:
extremely
sick
for
2
years,,
and
it
was
really
really
scary,
and
I
just.
I
I
want
to
do
as
much
as
I
can
to
help
people,
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
public
speaking..
If
you,
google,
alison,
in
washington
post,,
you
can
find
a
really
detailed
article
about
my
experience..
They
did
a
cover
story
about
2
years,
ago.
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman:
on
the
coding
thing,,
especially
for
the
er
doctor,,
I
mean,
there's
been
a
discussion.,
I'm
just
going
to
take
it
away
from
cannabis
for
a
second
that,
if
you're
trying
to
keep
track
of
bicycle
injuries,
you
you
some
er.
Doctors
are
supposed
to
add
a
an
add
on
that.
This
injury,
like
this
broken
bone,
occurred.
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Nathan,
dewey:
and
codified,,
and
it's
been
legitimized,
and
that's
something
I
would
not
mind
reaching
out
to
local
emergency
rooms
and
and
distributing,
and
the
other
thing
we
can
do
is
distribute
it
out
through
schools,.
Your
youth
programs
and
things
like
this,,
maybe
not
for
the
elementary,,
but
for
the
high
schoolers.
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Nathan,
dewey:,
where
it's
a
wizard,
brain,
lizard
brain
thing..
I
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
much
on
it..
I
don't
know
no
enough,,
but
that's
just
actually
just
gave
me
a
great
idea..
We
could
actually
disseminate
this
information
out
into
that,
into
the
public
that
way
there.
so
there's
a
lot
of
outlets.
I
think
we
could
do
this
with.
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J
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Richard
holdman:
definitely
richard
holdman:
agree
with
that.
I
have
read
the
article
that
I
that
you're,
probably
referencing,
that
that
identified.,
you
know
certain
people
are
more
prone
to
this,
and
I
think
that
at
least
leads
into
the
education
of
knowing
why
these
people
get
affected
by
differently
than
other
people
when
they
use
the
same
amount..
Some
people
are
gonna,
get
chs,
overs,
aren't.
K
K
N
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
it
is
zooming
out
from
chs.
specifically..
Are
there
models
that
any
of
you
are
trying
to
have
seen,
or
that
you're
trying
to
emulate
right?
So,
like
smoking,
cessation,
you
know,
back
in
the
nineties
and
early
2,000..
Is
that
something
that's
worth
trying
to
explore?
Pursuit
here,
like
what's
like,
appropriate?
because,,
like
policy
levers,
your
interventions
for
around
education
or
policy
change.
N
K
K
J
J
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P
P
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
I
think
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
talk
about
educational
materials
because
we've
talked
about
it
before,,
and
I
just
want
to
make
the
the
comment
that
you
know
from
a
a
a
buttender
perspective..
I
I
hesitate
to
want
to
have
them
talk
about
it
at
all.,
but
tenders
are
not
medical
providers.,
they
are
not
doctors..
We
talk
about
this
all
the
time
that
don't
use
absolute..
It's
not
treating
something
it's.
P
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
you
know.,
I
think,
talking
about
clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
for
me.,
it's
always
been.,
you
know,
it.
cannabis
is
medicine
right?
and
in
a
medicine,
has
different
side
effects,
and
can
affect
everybody
differently..
And
so
we
talk
about
kind
of
that
kind
of
realm
of
of
education,
right?.
P
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
but
in
terms
of
of
chs
it
it
makes
sense
that
there'd
be
something
from
cd.
phe.,
something
from
the
med
for
responsible
vendor
training
like
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
happen,,
and
I
think
a
pamphlet
is
a
perfect
way
to
do.
That.,
that's
at
dispensaries
and
and
and
available
to
the
public..
I
just
really
want
to
say
that
I'm
I'm
very
hesitant
to
like
have
buttenders
be
the
ones
having
the
discussion
without
through
understanding.
P
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
the
information
accurately
and
without
bias.,
so
I
think
that
it
just
wanted
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there..
I
also
think
that
people
are
probably
reluctant
at
this
partially
right..
I
can't
say,
you
know,
for
all
of
the
people
that
come
in
because
everybody
is
different,,
but.
P
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
a
lot
of
people
are
reluctant,,
but
because
of
of
what
you
said,
dr.
randall
about.,
you
know
the
fact
that
maybe
they
work
for
c
dot..
Maybe
they
work
for
an
organization
that
does
charge
screenings
that
that
aren't
that
don't
allow
them
to
consume
a
a
a
legal
state,
product
right?.
P
Clab,,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
and
so
they're
reluctant
to
to
have
anybody
put
that
on
there..
So
they
don't
give
that
information,
so
that,
from
a
policy
standpoint
from
a
federal
and
state
perspective,
like
those
laws
need
to
change
that
people
can
be
honest
about
what
they're
actually
doing,
and
not
feel
like.
They
are
kind
of
put
in
in
in
a
box,
or
put
in
a
position
where
they
can't
be
honest
about
what
they're
consuming.
P
P
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
this
conversation
in
this
panel,
and
is
just
one
step
towards
all
of
that.,
so
obviously..
Thank
you
all
for
for
your
time,
and
I
don't
actually
have
any
questions..
It
was
more
just
a
a
thank
you,
and
a
comment
about
kind
of
the
the
global
sense
of
let's..
Let's
kind
of
keep
talking
about
it,
and
all
of
us
have
conversations
with.
P
J
J
P
P
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
is
like,,
hey
like?,
consult
this,,
you
know,.
If
you
have
any
issues,
and
not
talking
about
whether
they
agree
or
don't
agree
with
what
the
content
of
that
pamphlet
is,.
That's
the
education
that
needs
to
happen
is
that..
Look
at
your
resources,,
believe
your
resources,
and
and
it's
up
to
the
the
patient,
or
the
client,
or
the
consumer
to
decide.
P
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clab,,
allison,
bayley,
she/her:
yeah,
how
to
partner
to
get
the
information
out..
I
I
agree
that,
with
the
stigma
associated
with
with
cannabis
use
and
the
quick
interactions
that
folks
are
having
with
providers.,
it
is
really
hard
for
people
to
say.
What's
going
on
for
them.,
there's
all
sorts
of
things
that
we
know
that
folks
don't
share
with
medical
providers.
G
G
G
Clab,
allison
bayley
she/her:
some
small
steps
that
we
that
we
could
do
so..
It's
just
a
to
a
comment
to
the
folks
who
are
on
the
call
that
I
will
be
following
up
with
some
of
you.,
also
see
how
we
can
get
some
of
that
information
out,
and
would
love
to
to
bring
some
of
that
work
with
anyone
on
collaborate
or
get
get
that
information
out.
G
Clab,
allison
bayley
she/her:,
and
definitely
on
the
clab,
allison
bayley
she/her:,
the
sort
of
public
information
side..
I
think,
there's
some
some
opportunities
to
do
that
through
some
of
the
existing
education.
That's
happening
to
parents
and
young
people
about
cannabis,,
making
sure
that
this
is
information,
that's
shared
at
the
same
time,
to.
G
H
H
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble:,
but
there
there
has
to
be
a
so
a
safe
way
for
them
to
be
able
to
talk
about
it,
and
not
be
accused.
Of,,
you
know,
being
prohibition,
as,,
so
to
speak,,
so
the
more
education
they
have
about.
hey,.
This
is
real,,
and
this
is
what
your
people
need
to
know
if
they're
experiencing
it.
F
Clab,
stacy
green:
you
pretty
much
just
took
the
words
out
of
my
mouth.
robin,.
I
think
like
this
needs
to
be
as
simple
as
as
a
position
like..
I
know
I'm
able
to
ask
questions
about
alcohol
and
screen
for
alcohol
related
disorders,,
and
I
don't
worry
about
doing
that
at
all,.
As
far
as
you
know,
getting
stigmatized
for
being
anti
alcohol.
F
Clab,
stacy
green:.
I
think
we
just
need
to
get
to
the
point
that
this
is
the
same
thing,
and
it
it
could
be
that
simple,
like
we
don't
need
to
make
it
complex
right.
If
you're
asking
a
question,
and
your
patient
says
yes,,
they
use
cannabis
right
there,
and
they
also
have
this
other,.
You
know,
constellation
of
symptoms,.
F
F
F
F
F
Clab,
stacy
green:
do
that,
because
I
I
just
don't
feel
like
how
far
into
cannabis
in
colorado
we
are,.
We
should
still
be
at
the
point
of
worrying
about
asking
our
patients
about
using
it,
or
or
as
a
provider
having
to
worry
about
that.,
that's
awful.
and
so
and
then,.
I
think
kate
had
mentioned
something
about
like.
F
Clab,
stacy
green:
patients
shouldn't
have
to
worry
about
admitting
to
it.,
but
that's
a
whole
nother
bag
of
worms
is
my
understanding..
That's
already
been
to
the
colorado
supreme
court,
and
they
voted,
and
somebody,.
Please
correct
me
from
wrong.,
but
they
voted
that
it's
an
employer's
right,
thing,.
So
as
an
employer,,
you
have
the
right.
F
F
Clab,
stacy
green:
actually
have
issues
with
that
like
to.
in
some
ways
I
do.,
but
in
some
ways
they
don't
like
for
c.
doc.
to
me
that
seems
clear.
okay,,
like
we're
gonna,
have
to
just
make
this
black
and
white,
right?.
If
you're
driving
trucks,,
you
probably
shouldn't,
be
using
canvas
while
you're
doing
that..
So
you
know
I'm
not
really
feeling
like
it's
worth.
F
F
F
B
K
K
Richard
holdman:
so
it's.
richard
holdman:,
and
especially
as
you
look
at
the
different
populations
of
who's
using
cannabis
who
was
affected
by
the
war
on
drugs
in
the
past.
more
unfortunately,.
A
lot
of
those
users
are
the
ones
that
are
still
using
heavily,
and
they're,
the
ones
that
are
at
the
most
fear
of
having
a
consequence
of
their
cannabis,.
So
they're
not
going
to
admit
it
to
a
physician.
K
K
I
Alice
moon:,
I
think
education
with
positions
is
the
most
important
part,,
because
when
I
was
diagnosed
by
my
doctor,
and
I
didn't
believe
them.,
it
was
because
they
were
very
unsure
about
the
condition
as
a
whole..
They
weren't
very
educated
on
it,,
and
so
they
didn't
have
any
resources
or
information
to
provide
me
with.,
and
it
was
just
kind
of
like
a
you
might
have
this
like
it
could
be
that,
like
we
don't
really
know.,
but-
and
so
I
think,
giving.
I
Alice
moon:
medical
professionals,
all
the
information
possible
about,,
you
know.,
here's
the
medicines
that
have
been
proven
to
work
to
stop
this..
Here's.
What
people
are
doing
to
stop
this
like.,
here's
what
we
can
do..
I
think
that
would
be
very
beneficial
in
helping
patients
believe
their
doctors.
J
J
Iphone
karen:
there's
no
specific
test
that
says
you
have
it.,
you
have
a
chs.,
it's
just
that
you've
had
secrets
of
visits,
and
you've
had
repeated
visits
and
your
cannabis.
user,
so
we're
going
to
associate
that..
So
we
always
say
cannabis
is
basically
a
diagnosis
of
exclusion
where
I've
ruled
out.
J
M
M
J
H
H
I
I
I
The
amount
consumed
varied
all
across
the
board,
and
some
people
did
grow
their
own
cannabis
without
using
any
pesticides,
and
they
still
developed
it..
So
it
was
kind
of
all
over
the
place,,
with
the
results
that
I
found.,
but
I
am
working
with
a
doctor
to
get
an
irb
approved.
study
out
into
the
mix.
So
we
can
collect
some
data
that
we
can
publish
into
medical
journals.
F
F
Clab,
stacy
green:
the
and
I
explain,
you
know.
well,,
there's
a
really
simple
test
for
it..
You
don't
have
to
really.
Actually
it
might
even
save
you
money,,
you
know
you
don't
have
to
use
canvas
for
a
period
of
time,
and
we'll
know.
Probably
the
thing
I've
seen
most,
and
this
just
might
be
an
important
thing
to
be
aware
of-
is
that
people
will.
F
F
Clab,
stacy
green:,
so
it's
not
that,
and
my
understanding,
at
least
in
just
my
anecdotal
experiences
usually,,
and
I
think
this
was
already
said..
They
need
to
be
off
longer.,
but
I
think,
in
whatever
public
health
material
we
distribute,.
That
point
needs
to
be
made
like..
You
can't
stop
using
for
2
weeks,
and
really
be
sure
you
don't
have
this
right
like
this,
like
you
actually
need
to
stop..
That's
the
true
test
for
a
longer
time,
and
then,.
At
least
in
my
patient
group.-
the
question
is,
well,,
if
you
can't.
F
F
H
I
Alice
moon:
yeah.,
so
I
think
quitting
for
a
minimum
of
3
months
is
what
people
should
do
just
to
make
sure
they
get
all
the
thc.
out
of
their
system.
quitting
for
a
week
or
2
is
definitely
not
enough.
Like,
you
know.,
I
mentioned.
I
had
stopped
using,
and
I
threw
up
for
16
days
straight,,
and
so
I
it's.
t.
hd.
stays
in
our
system
longer
than
people
realize,,
especially
if
you're
consuming
edibles.
I
I
Alice
moon:
core
suggestion
in
our
medical
field
right
now,,
of
like
how
long
people
should
actually
quit
for
people,
think
that
a
week
is
a
long
time,,
because
they're
so
used
to
using
cannabis.
That
a
week
feels
like
a
long
time,.
But
in
reality
it
is
not
a
long
enough
time
at
all,,
and,
like,
robin
said
in
the
facebook
group,
people
will
suffer
for
quite
some
time.
and.
I
B
B
B
J
J
J
B
B
H
F
G
B
A
N
N
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
an
election
clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
every
year
that
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
and
that
typically
the
vice
chair
becomes
the
chair
again.,
I'm
not
necessarily
interested
in
that..
We
don't
necessarily
to
emulate
that.,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
information.
I'll
guide.
N
N
B
B
B
A
N
F
A
A
B
B
B
B
F
P
P
A
A
A
A
A
A
N
B
Q
Q
Q
Q
Cob,
sandra
llanes:
to
combine
those
things
into
one
rather
than
taking
it
as
a
separate
matter..
So
there's
quite
a
few
steps
that
need
to
take
place,,
but
that's
kind
of
the
pathway.
With
respect
to
your
questions,
here.,
I'm
not
prepared
to
answer
specific
questions
about
this
today,,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
do
so
at
a
future.
Meeting.
B
F
F
Q
Q
Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
whether
or
not
you're
interested
in
further
discussion,
and
then
schedule
app
for
a
meeting
on
a
meeting,
agenda.
and
then,.
If,
if
there
are
questions
that
you
all
want
us
to
answer,
that
we
can
help
with,,
you
can
provide
those
in
advance,.
So
we
can
have
those
ready
for
you
at
that.
Discussion.
P
P
A
A
N
N
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
change
with
the
there
are
other
important
matters
before
the
sport
as
well..
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
we
calibrate
that
we
are
picking
up
our
regulatory
duties
and
trainings
and
things
like
that,
and
moving
forward.
if
there
are
other
public
health
and
safety
concerns
that
we
brought
to
this
board
that
we're
prioritizing
this
as
well.
N
H
H
H
H
Q
B
B
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
H
A
H
A
B
B
N
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
N
N
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I
guess
we
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
not
having
public
hearings
that
aren't
public,
but
like,,
just
how
is
like
we
have
been
very
sensitized
to
like
only
email
staff
and
not
to
each
other,
and
things
like
that.
thank
you..
I
appreciate
you
clarifying
that
what
I
met
was
just
you
directly
to
staff.
Q
N
N
Q
Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
it's
just
it
really
depends
on
what
it
is
right,
but
like
as
an
example
like,.
Let's
say
you
said,,
you
know
you
reached
out
to
me..
You
said
well,,
you
know
I
had
this
communication
with
this
applicant
about
a
year
ago,,
and
this
is
what
we
talked
about,,
but
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
keep
me
from
being
fair
and
impartial.
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clab,,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
yeah.
and
then
I
was
gonna
just
ask
kind
of
like
understanding
the
facilitation
process
like
obviously,.
I'm
gonna
watch
one
of
these
right?,
but
like
you're
talking
about,,
you
know
the
clerk,,
the
city
attorney's
office,,
the
chair,,
the
board,,
the
parties
of
interest
like
obviously,.
That's
a
lot
more.
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Cob,
kristen
teague:
this,
the
the
when
they
refer
to
the
clerk
they
refer
to
the
staff
member
like
for
this
rotation.,
I'm
the
clerk
right,
or
it
is
caitlin
in
her
or
john
in
his
rotation.,
and
so
when
you,.
If
you
haven't
already
looked
at
a
beverage
licensing,
authority,
hearing.,
we
are
the
ones
that
are
calling
each
agenda.
item,
out,
we're
the
ones
that
are
swearing,
in.
we're
the
ones
that
are
usually,
and
we're
creating
that
that
flow.
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
because
we're
creating
a
legal
record.
A
Cob,
kristen
teague:
when
we're
calling
out
an
agenda.
item,,
it's
because
we're
so
used
to
doing
that,
and
by
keeping
track
of
rather
than
sometimes
the
ebb
and
flow,
because
you
guys
aren't
in
a
quasi
judicial
fashion,
yet.
and
so
that's
part
of
what
we
do.
and
we
also
do
like
sandra,
said
the
swearing
in.
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Cob,
kristen
teague:
will
be
very
similar
then..
That's
because
it
will
all
become
part
of
a
legal
record,
and
the
scripts,
like
sandra
says
the
bla
has
scripts..
They
pretty
much
have
those
memorized,
and
part
of
the
reasons,,
because
they're
calling
out
specific
legal
citations
sometimes.,
and
so
that's.
Why
there's
those
scripts
in
those.
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Cob,
kristen
teague:,
you
get
a
thumbs
up
for
that.,
cob,,
kristen,
teague:
and
then
sometimes
there'll
be
questions
that
are
directed
to
the
city.
Attorney.
there'll
be
sometimes.,
there'll,
be
stuff
that
is
answered
by
staff,,
whether
it
be
the
licensing
clerk
or
the
licensing
manager
and
things
like
that,,
and
it
just
depends
in
the
hearing,
but
anything
that
you
guys
notice
beforehand
that
we
can
answer
beforehand
or
be
prepared
for
if
we
have
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
is
always
appreciated.
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Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):.
Could
you
say
that
like
this
would
be
very
hard
to
to
logistically
do,
but
like
if
we
wanted
to
do
one,
and
then
like
we
did
one.
and
then
the
next
month
there
was
another
applicant,
and
we
had
a
topic
that
we
were
covering
from
an
advisory
perspective..
Could
we
push
that?
or
would
we
just
say,
hey,
city
staff.,.
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Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
so
one
you'd
have
to
kind
of
write,
2
different
sets
of
rules,
the
procedure
right,
and
that
would
be
kind
of
hard.,
but
but
also
I
would..
I
don't
know
if
there
would
be
any
legal
basis
for
this,,
but
I
would
worry
that
somebody
would
try
to
make
some
sort
of
argument
that
well,
someone
still
got
a
hearing..
They
got.
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Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
and
we
could
say,.
You
know
we
could
say,
tom,.
We
don't
want
to
touch
like
if,
if
hostility
goes
through,,
we
could
say
all
new
licenses
that
are
started,.
You
know.
go
through
the
city
until
we're
quote:
unquote
ready,
or
when
we
talk
about
it
right,
we
could
say,
we'll
do
all
current
license
types.
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Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
most
people
kind
of
know
a
little
bit
more
about
that
experience..
I'm
not
saying
that
that's
true.,
but
I'm
saying,
like
a
lot
like
most
public
facing
people,
that
don't
know
the
industry
or
work
in
the
industry.,
no
dispensaries,,
because
that's
more
public
facing
it..
They
can
understand
kind
of
the
the
ebbs
and
flows
of
like.
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Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
you
know.,
clab,,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):.
We
can
phase
it
in,,
but
at
least
like
making
a
process
and
getting
us
to
a
point
where
we
feel
comfortable..
I
just
feel
like
right,
now.
it
it.
It
tends
to
feel,.
I
think,
overwhelming,,
because
you
think
you
have
to
take
all
of
these
things,
and
if
you
just
bite
off
one
and
just
say
we'll,
do
this
one,
and
then
see
how
that
feels
and
watch
the
videos
of
the
bla
like.
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Jeff
gard:
their
their
terminology.
for
this
jeff
gard:.
I
I
also
spoke
and
meet
with
the
advisor
to
the
governor,
and
they're
going
to
work
on
this
at
the
state.
Level,,
as
you
can
see.,
that's
more
of
a
sea
change,
that's
going
to
require
the
participation
of
the
legislature.,
but
there,
that
is
actually
on
the
agenda,,
not
for
this
this
this
term,,
but
next
term..
There
was
a
comment
made.
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Jeff
gard:
a
point
to
refer
to
cannabis
rather
than
marijuana.
we're
also
showing
racial
and
cultural
sensitivity
over
an
issue
that
has
been
very
significantly,
racially
charged
for
a
very
long
time,,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
12
years
later,,
you
know
we're
we're
still
living
with
this.,
but
there's
a
lot
more
awareness
that
came.
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Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
so
you
pull
back
out
of
the
year.
so
you're,
just
in
the
bla
folder.
it
has
the
rule,
the
rules
of
procedures
at
the
bottom
there.
so,
tom,.
I
mean
that
that
that's
there,
and
then
in
terms
of
it's
on
the
main
website..
You
can
watch
the
last
one.
that
was
on
the
third
of
april.,
it's
on
the
main,
their
main
page..
So
I
mean.
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Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
great.,
clab,,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
it
just
goes.
we're
not
giving
them
that
direction.
we're
just..
These
are
what
we're
we're
just
talking
about
what
we
may
want
to
do.,
I'm
just
that's
what
I'm
saying..
We
need
like
these
black
and
white
like.
yes,
we're
just
doing
you.
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A
Cob,
kristen
teague:
how
long
their
least
possession
is
any
background
check
information
that
we're
able
to
disclose.
and
they
get
that
in
a
little
bit
different
format
because
of
the
legal
protected
status
of
cbi
and
fbi
are
background.
Checks..
We
provide
them
with
any
operational
characteristics
and
things
of
those
nature,,
and
we
summarize
all
of
that,
because
an
application
packet
can
be
very
large.,
then
they
also
get
a
copy
of,,
like
their
alcohol.
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A
Cob,
kristen
teague:
and
then
they
get
a
copy
of
their
premises,
diagram
and
any
zoning
documents,
and
then
any
kind
of
questionnaires
as
to
how
they're
going
to
operate
their
business..
So
their
their
packet
gets
really
kind
of
condensed
into
that,.
And
you
can
see
those
in
a
in
a
beverage
licensing,
authority,,
application,
packet.,
and
so
we
kind
of
really
condense.
That
down
for
for.
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A
A
Cob,
kristen
teague:
for
a
new
like
dispensary,
or
a
new
cultivation,,
or
a
new
manufactured
and
license..
So
we
don't
have
those
to
to
include
for
you
for
something
like
that.,
but
we
could
provide
you
with
what
a
packet
is,
as
far
as
that
as
an
example..
So
you
could
see
what
actually
the
beverage
licensing
authority
receives
as
far
as
a
new.
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Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
not
me.
specifically,.
I
think
what
I
I
was
trying
to
get
to
was
was,.
What
questions.
does
the
board
need
to
answer,
to
get
to
what
we
want
to
do
with
this
licensing
part
of
the
process?
Like?.
We
need
to
decide
new
versus
renewal
versus
transfers
versus
modifications
versus
right.
Like
that's
kind
of..
I
just
think
that
we're
we're.,
I
feel
like
we're,
stalled.
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P
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
getting
there,
and
that's
not
that's
on
city
staff.,
I'm
saying
that
the
board
we
haven't
been
able
to
make
a
decision
about
what
our
next
steps
are..
That's
all
I'm
saying,!
I
wasn't
saying
that
you
that
you
or
the
staff
needs
to
tell
us
what
to
do..
I'm
just
like.
We
need
to
decide
if
we're
doing
new
great.
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Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I
would
just
go
and
read
for.,
so
I
think
you're
just
doing
the
homework
and
watching
some
of
these
sessions
will
be
really
illuminating..
I've
been
enough
of
it
like
we're,
trying
to
structure
it..
So
we
all
it's
a
different
one,
and
we
can
report
back.
it'll
show
me
intel,,
but
it's
probably
too
much
structure
for
what
we
need,,
but
I
think
that.
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Clab,
robin
noble:,
I
think,
it'd
be
worth
a
30
min
presentation
from
somebody
from
that
group
to
walk
us
through
it,
and
to
allow
the
board
members
to
ask
questions..
That
would
be
my
suggestion
now.
Is
that
given,
at
the
same
time
as
alana,
provides
her
info.,
I
don't
know
that
that
could
create
some
tension..
I'm
not
sure..
H
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Clab,
stacy
green:,
you
know.,
that's
just
more
pragmatic,
maybe.,
but
I
think
if
we
try
and
do
a
lot
of
plus
like
whole
thing
on,
concentrates
that
I
think
that
would
sound
like
a
lot
or
a
presentation
from
the
state..
That
sounds
like
a
lot
to
mix
to
me,,
but
I
could
be
totally
wrong,
because
I
certainly
did
not
be
the
person
to
ask
about
managing.
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Cob,
kristen
teague:
certainly.
so,,
as
you
were
told
previously,
this
month,
was
supposed
to
be
where
we
transition
to
zoom
webinar.
unfortunately,
that
didn't
happen,
and
that
will
begin
with
next
month..
That's
gonna
be
when
we
go
into
when
the
meeting
dumps
in,
everything
will
become
immediately.
A
Cob,
kristen
teague:
on
board.
everything
is
live.,
everything
is
gonna,
be
recorded..
There
will
be
no
lag
time.,
so
we
will
just
remind
you
that
literally
the
minute
you
enter
into
the
room.
Everything
is
on
recording..
Everything
needs
to
be,,
you
know,,
all
business,
save
your
discussion,,
for
you
know.
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B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman:,
you
know
we're
soon.
Gonna
clab,
tom
kunstman:
have
some
hospitality,
clab,
tom
kunstman:
recommendations..
Are
you
gonna
have
a
list
of
recommendations
that
are
gonna
come
to
the
city
council??
If
you
want
to
know
anything
about
those
before
they
actually
come
to
you.
and
she
thought
that
was
a
good
idea.
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Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
the
feedback
that
I
got
was
basically
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
paragraph
in
the
executive
summary,
that
list
of
the
successful
motions
in
their
final
form..
So
there's
like
that
motion
that
was
superseded
by
another
motion,,
you
know
you
would
only
put
the
the
final
motion
that.
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Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
this
board
has
an
interest
in
showing
all
the
different
perspectives
on
the
board,,
and
I
think
that's
all
well
good.,
but
I
think,
in
the
interest
of
making
sure
that
they
receive
the
proper
information..
I
think
that
those
2
at
least
would
have
appreciated
a
more
concise
executive
summary
that
actually
listed
all
of
those.