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Clab-Robin
noble:
thank
you,
tom..
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
having
served
in
this
role
for
so
long.
and
express
my
appreciation..
If
you're
willing
to
do
it
again.,
I
think
you've
done
a
good
job,.
I
think,
member
keegan
does
a
good
job
as
well
when
he's
called
upon..
So
I'm
I
very
much
support
those
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Lynn,
segal:,
lsd
and
marijuana
when
I
was
young.,
but
I'm
70,
and
it's
gotten
to
be
a
whole
different
thing,
and
I
don't
support
even
when
I
did
drugs,
because
the
these
were
problems
back,
then,
too,
and
I
shouldn't
have
ever
been
in
a
position
where
I
could
have
done
drugs..
So
that's
why
I
think
promoting
it
in
any
way.
Is,
is
completely
negative
to
society,
to
our
culture.
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Raju
bhatt:
for
being
present
raju
bhatt:
for
doing
the
work
you're
doing
for
have
an
open
mind,
and
for
seeing
how
this
wonderful
herb
can
help
more
people..
I
am
concerned
about
pharmaceuticals,
like
the
previous
lady
spoke
about,
and
drugs
and
pentanol
and
all
those
things..
We
should
be
very
concerned
about
all
those
things.
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Clab-Robin
noble:
and
the
ability
of
young
people
to
buy
large
quantities
of
marijuana
from
dispensaries,
and
then
resell
to
friends,
has
really
been
curtailed..
We
understand
from
that
legislation,
because
it
makes
it
so
much
more
difficult
for
people
between
the
ages
of
18
and
21
to
get
medical
card.,
and
so
I
think
that
that
is.
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Clab-Stacy
green:
yes,,
thanks
for
that
information.
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
robin..
I
think
that
was
exactly
the
idea
that
popped
into
my
head,
as
I
was
listening,
that,
if
we're
cutting
down
how
much
each
person
can
buy.
and
you're
seeing
this
in
that
age
group
chances
are,
it
is
an
effort
to
just
accumulate
more
volume..
I
mean,
that's
like
what
I
would
guess.
I
don't..
I
can't
really
think
of
another
reason
why.
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Clab-Robin
noble:.
I
appreciate
the
suggestion
to
change
this
room
idea
to
kind
of
make
that
stop,,
but
that
needs
to
stop,,
but
that
that
just
shouldn't
be
happening.,
and
I
just
wondered
if,
in
the
context
of
this
conversation,
you
know,,
there's
there's
some
other
things,
maybe
even
can..
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot
even,,
but
if
you
have
any
thoughts
about
that,
I'd
love
to
hear
them.
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Clab-Robin
noble:
share
me?.
I
follow
up.
yeah,.
I
just,
you
know,.
I
think
when,
when
there's
you
know,
when
we're
using
wellness
center
and
patience,-
and
I
can
see
where
the
confusion
can
happen
at
the
buttender
level.,
and
I
think
that
the
person
who
brought
this
forward
is
saying,.
This
room
is
confusing
to
buttenders
as
well,,
and
I
think
there
could
be
some
real
value
to
the
community
to
having
more
clarity
on
all
those.
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Cob,
rewa
ward:
I'd
like
to
add,
just
to
just
to
let
everybody
know
as
first
the
co-located
centers
go,
your
predecessors
map
the
marijuana
advisory
panel.
They
weighed
in
on
the
brc
language
with
regard
to
co-located
centers,
and
their
idea
behind
the
that
there's
a
private
consultation
room
for
those.
again..
You
you've
got
a
co-located
center
saved
medical.
Their
privacy
is
needed.
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Nathan,
dewey:
yup,.
We
can
see
you,
too.,
all
right.
cool..
I
am
watching
my
2
boys..
Hopefully
they
won't
bust
in,,
but
if
they
do,,
I
apologize.
so
good
afternoon,
everybody..
I
see
some
from
interfaces
here.
Some
of
you
have
talked
to
were
met
in
the
past,.
Due
to
my
history
with
my
work.,
I
just
wanted
to
lay
out
a
few
things.
I
know.
I
already
sent
ahead.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
short
little
packet
of
information
about
what
rar
is
and
who?
well,,
not
exactly
who
I
am,,
but
what
we
do
more
or
less..
So
I
just
kinda
want
to
paraphrase
that,
for
you
all
real
quick,
and
then
try
and
leave
some
time
open
for
some
questions
and
and
such.,
I
do
want
to
say
real
quick,
though..
The
topic
you
were
just
talking
about
is
what
I
do.
P
Nathan,
dewey:,
if,
if
you
need
those
kind
of
things
that
kind
of
information.,
that's
that's
something
I
can
help
you
with.
as
well
as
why
did
everybody
get
those
fake
ids??
Let's
figure
that
out.
that's
very
interesting
to
me.
because,?
We
don't
get
a
lot
of
those
up
here
at
the
dispensaries
in
northern
colorado,.
Just
because
a
lot
of
people
know
they
they're
not
getting
through.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
attempts.,
so
that's
just
something.,
so
you
can
all
know
that
we
already
have
a
little
bit
of
a
wealth
of
knowledge
on.
But
let
me
just
begin
by
introducing
myself
again..
My
name
is
nathan
dewey..
I
am
the
director
of
a
nonprofit
program
geared
around
youth,
prevention
and
wellness,,
and
that
includes
alcohol.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
dare
really
just
educated
us
about
drugs,
what
they
were
and
kind
of
said,
hey,.
Don't
do
this,,
don't
do
that.,
here's
your
here's,
your
brain.,
it's
a
frying
pan,
and
here's
an
egg..
There's
your
bring.
not
really
effective.,
to
be
quite
honest,.
We
take
a
program
called
brain
wise
and
put
it
into
the
children's
schools..
It
teaches
us
about
the
left
and
right
brain.
We
call
wizard
and
lizard
brain.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
in
boulder
and
boulder
county.,
as
as
we
will
be
moving
there
in
the
future
years..
I
run
the
program
because
it
was
started
in
2,004
unfortunately,,
a
gal
over
consumed
alcohol
up
in
4
columns,
and
the
community
came
together
with
an
old
nonprofit.
I
used
to
work
with
called
team
for
collins,
and
they
came
together
to
create
a
code
of
ethics
which
you
will
see
on
that.
First
page
I
gave
you..
We
have
a
code
of
ethics
that.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
generally
says
we
diligently
check
ids.,
we
encourage
testing
the
drivers..
We
train
employees,
how
to
identify
inebriated,
individuals,,
etc.,,
etc.
it's
about
being
a
good
citizen,,
a
good
community
member,,
and
to
look
looking
out
for
the
community
at
large,.
Not
only
the
children,,
but
our
patrons
as
well.
in
these
establishments.
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P
Nathan
dewey:
at
the
beginning,
rr.
was
just
alcohol
focused.
and
of
course,
right
around
2,012.
Those
years
is
when
legalization
started.
Coming
around
the
old
nonprofit,
I
used
to
work.
14,
4
calls
was
actually
a
major
force
and
shutting
down
the
industry
and
port
collins,
and
a
few
other
places.
and.
P
Nathan
dewey:
being
told
to
leave,,
and
they
want
nothing
to
do
with
me.,
as
I
was
hired
in
2,015
to
take
over
this
program
and
introduce
a
candace
for
cannabis
responsibility,,
just
as
we've
been
doing
with
alcohol
just
a
little
more
background.,
so
you
know,
when
I
did
join,
we
had
30
members.
pre
covid..
I've
got
our
numbers
up
to
about
300
statewide.
P
Nathan,
dewey:,
we
are
located
in
4,
columns,,
greeley
and
boulder..
Those
are
our
main
hubs,,
but
I
do
work
in
windsor,
lovelyland,
for
co.
or
on
the
sport,
phones,
obviously.
longmont
and
lafayette
right
now..
So
we
do
have
our
hands
stretched
out
there.
As
far
as
the
alcohol
goes,,
cannabis
has
been
mostly
focused
in
poor
columns,
because
and
greeley
sorry,,
because
jurisdictions
like
longmont
winds
are.
These
places
do
not
allow
for
cannabis.
Sales.
P
P
Nathan
dewey:,
who
was
running
it
at
the
time
it
just
became
too
much
for
him,
and
they
found
out
about
what
we
were
the
good
work
we
were
doing
in
northern
colorado,
and
we
were
invited
to
take
over
that
responsible
hospitality.
Group.
and
now
that
that
gentleman
is
actually
a
member
of
the
bla
now..
So
it's
really
come
full
circle
with
with
him
and
myself,
and
the
good
work
we're
doing
with
alcohol.
P
Nathan
dewey:
before
I
get
into
the
cannabis.
just
a
little
quick
synopsis
of
what
we're
doing
with
alcohol..
I
do.
monthly
trainings
called
tips
trainings.
if
you're,
not
familiar.,
they're
alcohol
service,
trainings.
the
boulder
liquor
of
licensing
authority.
actually,.
The
bla
actually
requires
that
anybody
who
has
a
license
or
is
getting
a
license
is
to
have
their
staff
trained
within
60
days.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
of
higher,
and
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now.
Boulder
is
one
of
the
most
responsible
communities
I
have
out
of
all
my
chapters,,
and
I
do
believe
the
initiation
of
this
was
something
that
was
helpful,
and
it
is
something
like.
I
will
be
suggesting
here
in
a
second
when
I
talk
about
my
own
program.,
but
as
a
responsible
safe,,
the
safety
service
sales.
P
Nathan,
dewey:,
beyond
that,
we
do
fake
id
trainings,
where
I
bring
in
like
a
officer,
dennis,
who's,
the
alcohol
officer
for
compliance,
officers?
officer,
pam's
counterpart
for
alcohol..
He
and
I
do
2
trainings
a
year
in
boulder,,
where
we
have
huge
turnouts,
and
people
come
and
learn
how
to
properly
fake
id
from
law,
enforcement,
and
myself..
We
do
patron
safety
trainings,,
where
we
teach
about
how
to
keep
your
patron
safe,,
how
to
not
see.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
brand
new
id
guide
every
single
year
from
us
as
part
of
membership..
We
have
trainings
every
month..
We
have
member.
I
member
meetings
where
members
of
the
alcohol
chapter
come
every
other
month
to
every
3
months.
it
just
depends.,
it's
a
little
bit
different
after
covid,
and
we
talk
about
industry,
specific
things.,.
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P
Nathan,
dewey:
green
solutions,
and
folks
like
these
up
up
in
the
in
the
northern
part
of
the
state..
We
hold
meetings
every
other
month
to
talk
about
industry,,
specific
things
like,
for
example,.
Why
are
we
getting
all
these
fake,
ids?
now??
That's
a
great
topic.!
I'm
going
to
be
bringing
up
to
my
folks
here
in
4
columns..
We
talk
about
things
like
you
know:
you're
you..
You
had
some
great
examples:
today,,
like
the
cinema
that
getting
the
stony
cinema,
or
whatever
was
called
like..
That's
that's
an.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:,
on
top
of
that
I
have
personally
written
and
in
state,
approved?
I
have
my
own
program..
That's
the
responsibility
program
called
tender,
wise.,
it's
on
a
short
harness
right
now,,
just
as
I've
had
to
rewrite
it,
and
it's
getting
re
re-approved,,
but
it
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
held
monthly
again..
So
I
have
monthly
trainings
for
tender
wise,
and
you
are
not
required
yet.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
responsible
vendor
training,
and
if
they
can
so
prove
that
that
might
just
give
them
a
little
bit
of
leeway
with
you,,
you
know,
mitigating
benefactor,,
as
we
say
right?.
So
as
long
as
they've
not
done
anything
too
negligent.
you're
gonna
take
that
into
consideration
that
they
had
all
their
traffic
trained
within
that
10.,
I'm
sorry.
60
day
period..
It's
actually
something
I'm
moving
forward
with
in
the
other
communities
on
the
alcohol
and
cannabis
side.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey::
what,
if
any
ramifications
that
have
to
come
through
with
with
employees,
doing
the
wrong
thing?
They.
they
really
they
really
trained
very
well..
They
make
sure
that
their
staff
is
trained
and
has
my
responsibility,
training
or
somebody
else's.
again..
I
don't
just
promote
mine.,
as
we
are
a
nonprofit..
We
just
want
people
trained
and
and
knowledgeable..
So
I
didn't
really
give
you
a
lot
of
that
that
manual,,
just
because
it
is
on
being.
P
Nathan
dewey:
being
reworked.,
but
it
is
something
that
I
hold
monthly,
and
I
am
holding
moving
forward
from
now
holding
monthly
in
boulder,
and
I
will
be
promoting
to
all
the
dispensaries
in
boulders..
So
just
so,,
you
know.
and
I'm
sure
you
guys
had
a
presentation
a
couple
of
months
ago
from
the
sca,
the
substance,
education,
abuse.
P
Nathan
dewey:
grant
and
I
get
funding
from
them.,
and
I
did
include
that
in
that
package..
So
you
all
could
see,
I'm
in
a
5
year,
grant,,
to
provide
this
program.
r
to
the
community
of
boulder..
We
were
more
heavily
focused
and
alcohol
at
the
beginning.,
but
we
now
really
want
to
push
forward
with
the
cannabis
side
of
things,
and
with
your
blessing
and
your
support.,
we
would
really
like
to
move
forward
that
and
grab
it
with
you.
P
Nathan
dewey:
as
many
dispensaries
and
industry
members
as
possible
to
join
us
and
join
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
our
code
of
ethics
and
our
responsibility
and
keeping
it
out
of
the
hands
of
children.,
and
we
do
when
I
say
that
I
do
consider
a
20
year
old,
a
child
at
that.,
legally
speaking,.
They
are
not
allowed
to
consume
cannabis
legally..
So
we
do
want
to
do
that.
Educate
college
age,
people
about
ramifications
of
having
it.
and
what
happens.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
are
more
effective
on
the
alcohol
side..
I
hire
somebody
between
the
ages
of
21
and
30,,
and
I
just
have
them
go
and
get
id,
and
they
must
be
id
properly
so..
They
have
to
be
checked.,
they
have
to
be
looked
at
thoroughly..
The
the
person
who
has
the
id
has
to
hold
the
id,
and
really,.
I
mean
it's
few
and
far
between
that
I'll
ever
get
a
bad
check
on
a
dispensary
because
of
the
2
security
checks.
They
have
to
go
to,
and
a
lot
of
the
places
nowad,
have
have
scanners.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
and
they'll,
you
know,,
really
good
state
of
the
art
scanners,
that,
like
the
police
use..
So
if
they're
using
those
and
they're
using
their
id
guide,
books.
it's
very
hard
to
fool
them,,
but
it's
still
nice
to
have
someone
go
through
and
and
watch
your
employees
and
see
their
process..
Are
they
really
holding
that
id
up
to
that
person
in
front
of
them??
Because
my
state
id
right
now
has
a
picture
of
me
from
when
I
was
28,
and
I'm
45,
almost.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
and
my
yellow
check
essentially
for
dispensaries
is
that
if
you
got
a
yellow
check.,
it
means
you're
not
really
thoroughly,
checking
the
id.
you're,
just
being
lazy
and
and
going
through
the
motions
of
the
scan
or
something
like
that..
We
really
want
them
to
be
thorough
in
in
their
practices,,
and
that
is
something..
I
train
them
as
well,
and
trainings
on
proper
id
and
things
like
this..
We
work
really
closely
with
law
enforcement..
I
know.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
officer
pam
and
I
have
talked
a
couple
of
times,
off
and
on,,
but
I
just
wasn't
ready
and
ramped
up
yet,
and
that's
why
I
really
finally
approached
you..
All
now
is
because
I've
been
able
to
train
my
assistant
to
kind
of
help
me
with
boulder,
alcohol
side
of
things,,
because
the
next
6
months
of
my
life
are
going
to
be
really
concentrated
on
grabbing
as
many
dispensary
and
industry
members
in
boulder.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
and
get
them
to
join
r,
and
what
we're
doing.
and
again,
that's.
I
hope,,
I
hope
and
pray
with
your
support.,
but
if
not,
I
still
want
to
get
in
there
and
really
promote
what
we're
doing,
because
we're
doing
some
great
working
communities.
we've
had
some
proven
results
of
helping
dispensaries
really
go
from
bad
to
good.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
when
their
practices
were
terrible.
and
now
they're,,
you
know,
one
of
the
best
dispensaries
in
colorado,.
As
far
as
those
practices
go.
just
so,,
you
all
know
to
also
for
the
past.
I
don't
even
know
how
many
years
now,,
probably
at
least
5
years,
I've
been
on.
go,,
governor.,
pulses,,
marijuana,
education
oversight
committee
for
the
state
of
colorado.
kind
of
as
that
voice
of
reason
in
the
middle.
I'm
sitting
there
with
people.
P
Nathan
dewey::
what's
your
thought
process
for
the
kids
for
advertising.?
It's
nice
just
to
have
a
voice
at
the
table
when
c.
dots,
making
a
an
ad
campaign
or
the
call
to
permanent
health
is
developing
something
for
high
schools..
It's
just
nice
to
know
a
what's
going
on
beforehand
to
be
having
a
voice
at
the
table
and
see
just
letting
my
members
know:
that.
hey?.
We
actually
do
have
a
voice
also.
with
what's
going
on
in
the
state
and
education,.
As
far
as.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
that's
concerned.,
because
I
think
both
sides
can
get
a
little
crazy
sometimes,.
You
know.
and
both
sides
have
great
points
sometimes,
and
we
just
all
need
to
come
together
and
be
rational
and
just
figure
figure
things
out
for
the
benefit
of
the
kids
in
our
community,
and
patrons
in
general,
and
and
the
colorado
citizens.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
the
other
thing,
I
added,
was
something
like
an
alcohol
policy.,
so
I
also
help
folks
with
their
licenses..
Their
alcohol
policies
off
in
the
bla
will
say,
hey,.
What's
your
policy
for
getting
people
home,
safely,
or
serving
intoxicated
folks
and
a
new
license?,
he
may
not
really
know
all
of
those
things.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
I,
luckily,,
because
I've
been
doing
this
for
over
8
years..
Now
I
have
a
lot
of
knowledge
on
these
things,
and
I
can
help
them
really
understand
what
they're
moving
into,
and
how
to
put
their
best
foot
forward
and
their
best
face
forward
for
the
journey
into
this,
and
with
cannabis
for
me..
It's
even
more
of
a.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
not.,
the
alcohol
isn't
serious..
I
think
cannabis
is
just
something
that
is
so
new.
still,
that
a
lot
of
folks
don't
understand
the
ramifications
of
what
they're
doing
both
socially
as
well
as
legally,,
and
that's
something
we
can
help
provide
for
them,
as
well
as
just
a
wealth
of
knowledge
and
contacts.
for
them
to
have.
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:,
okay?
and
partners
is
a
large
nonprofit.
That's
been
around
in
brewfield,
really,
denver
for
collins
for
over
40
years..
So
they
adopted
me
when
team
4
collins
went
out
of
business
because
they
believed
in
our
program.
and
we've
grown
since,
since
we've
been
adopted
by
them..
So
I'm
really
happy
to
be
with
them.
and
they
are
youth
mentoring.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
nonprofit,,
and
we
now
just
rebranded
from
partners
to
entering
youth
to
partners,
because
r
is
a
part
of
that
as
well..
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time,
because
I
can.
I
could
go
on
forever
with
what
I
do..
I
love
my
job
and
what
I
do,
and
I'm
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
to
answer
your
questions,.
But
I
would
just
really
like
to
say
at
the
end
of
the
day,
like.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
it
would
be
awesome
to
have
your
support.
Having
the
bla
support.
The
past
3,
4,
5
years
has
been
amazing..
I
think,
as
time
has
gone
on.
we've
gotten
more
and
more
support
for
them
to
the
point
where
they're
even
suggesting
not
suggesting
so
much
as
just
asking
if
folks
have
joined
r
are.
and
if
they
haven't
kind
of
asking,.
Why
not?
and
I
like
that,,
because
that
means
that.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
we're
doing
good
in
the
community
of
boulder
and
surrounding
areas.
and
we've
we're
being
appreciated..
We
got
written
on
for
another
5
years
on
that
grant
from
the
sca..
So
that's
the
other
thing.,
so
you
know.
all
the
other..
Our
members
pay
$350,
which
is
put
into
trainings
and
and.
P
P
Nathan
dewey:
it's
a
no
brainer
for
me
to
go
into
a
place
and
just
be
like,.
Hey,
you're,
just
gonna
pay,
150.
you're
gonna
have
this
sort
of
knowledge.
you're
gonna.
Have
these
sort
of
resources.
and
you're
gonna
have
3
monthly
trainings
because
they
are
free.,
they're
included
within
that
plan.
right?.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
they
just
have
to
pay
for
the
for
the
manuals
to
be
printed,,
which
is
what
$10?,
but
they
get
5
free
trainings
every
year,,
every
staff
member.
after
that
they
pay
for
the
manual.,
but
me
coming
to
them
and
doing
personal
trainings
and
house
or
monthly
trainings..
I
hold
them
mostly
at
the
boulder
library,,
because
it's
just
a
good
place
to
have
them
in
a
central
location..
Those
will
be
monthly
and
religious,
religiously
held.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
and
they
can
be
assured
that
their
their
staff
are
going
to
be
knowledgeable
when
they
leave
my
doors
on
on
state,,
not
all
state
laws,,
but
on
state
regulations
that
they
need
to
know,
understanding
that
we
can't
play
doctor
right?
and
those
sorts
of
things..
They
shouldn't
be
telling
people
that
it
cures
cancer.,
and
this
and
such,
if
they're
on
the
wreck
side..
We
also
also
are
moving
away
from
the
word
recreational,
and
we
prefer
adult
use.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
and
start
saying
adult
use,,
because
that's
what
it
is.
it's
adult
use
if,
unless
it's
met,
and
and
just
so,,
you
know
to
I-
don't
really
mess
with
the
medical
side
of
things.,
I'm
happy
to
to,
to
discuss
them,
and
to
to
do
what's
necessary.,
but
we
feel
that's
between
a
a
physician
and
their
patient..
But
we
don't
want
buttenders
pretending,
like
their
doctors,
are
acting
like
doctors,,
and
that
is
something
we
do.
Promote.
P
P
Nathan
dewey:
the
majority
of
the
bla
hearings
like
this
one..
I
would
attend
all
of
these
that
I
could.
I
you
know.
Sometimes
I
have
some
personal
things
going
on
that
I
can't.
I
can't
change,
or
a
vacation,
or
something
like
this,
but
other
than
that..
I
try
to
be
at
every
single
one
of
these
hearings,
just
to
to
listen
in
and
be
a
voice.
F
Clab-Robin
noble:
okay,
thank
you.
chair..
I
just
appreciate
the
presentation,
nathan,
and
if
you
covered
this,
I
apologize.
but
2
questions,
one.,
how
many
people,,
how
many
life??
I
guess
I
have
3
questions,.
How
many
licenses
are
currently
members
of
our
er
that
$150
a
year.
is
that
just
per
license?.
F
F
P
Nathan
dewey:-
I
just
didn't-
want
to
get
into
boulder
too
much
before
talking
with
you
all..
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
what
I
was
and
who
I
am.
so
that
you
can
understand
before
I
move
forward.
but
like,
I
said,
I've.
I've
talked
to
some
places
in
the
past.,
both
industry
members,
like
green
dot,
labs
and
the
farm,
and
things
like
this
just
to
kind
of
get
the
feelers
on
on
how
they
would
do
it..
So
we
only
have
12
right
now,,
but
that's
again
only
because.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
there's
limited
licenses.
You
can
only
have
like
11
in
4
calls,.
I
think,
right
now,
and
really
has
a
limit
and
and
such..
So
it
would
be
more,,
I'm
sure,.
If
we
could
have
more
up
here,
we
would,
and
I
would
get
them
to
join..
It's
it's
pretty
much
been
a
no
brainer
on
that
side
of
things.
and
as
far
as
your
support.
really,,
it
just
be
nice
to
go
in
and
say,
hey.
P
Nathan
dewey:
for
maybe
lack
of
a
better
terminology.
we're
we're
working
together,
because
I
would
like
us.
we're
cooperating
something
like
this
collaborating
because
I
would
love
to
to
be
able
to
help
you
with
some
of
the
issues.
like,
literally,.
There
are
things
that
we
can't
get
into
today.,
but
you
all
have
already
talked
about
that.
I
I
feel
I
could.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
wax
some
knowledge
on
and
help
you
out,
with,
and
if
not,,
I
know,
resources
where
to
get
those
answers,
and
how
to
get
those
answers,
or
going
to
the
dispensaries,
myself,
and
saying,
hey..
How
did
you
get
this?
many
ids
when
you
haven't
collected
a
single
id
in
3
years?,
whatever
it
is
right.,
so
I
guess
in
that
sense
it's
just
like
once
you
do
have
hearings,
and
you
do
have
that
kind
of
license.
Control..
P
P
Nathan
dewey:
on
their
own..
I
would
not
ask
for
that
kind
of
thing,,
but
I
do.
I
appreciate
it..
Of
course
I
appreciate
it.
and
it's
gotten
us
business
and
it.
and
honestly,.
I'm
telling
you
a
lot
of
the
people
that
that
they've
said,
hey,,
do
you
know
of,
or
have
you
worked?
With?
are
those
are
the
people
that
have
needed
us,
the
most?
there's
a
few
times
when
there's
a
person
who's
like
I've,
been
doing
this
40
years..
I
know:
what's
going
on.
blah!
blah!
blah!,
I
get
it.,
that's
great.
P
P
P
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
right
like
yourselves,,
because
you
all
have
your
own
individual
thought,,
your
own
individual
experiences
that
are
going
to
lead
into
that
those
licensing,
hearings
and
things
like
that
and
your
own
and
your
own
professional
experiences,,
and
that's
something
where
I
again,.
I
can
just
be
a
resource
to
you
all
behind
the
scenes,
or
right
there
at
the
hearing..
Sometimes
I'm
called
on
at
the
hearings
for
the
bla
or
sometimes
I
just
report
on
things
in
the
community.
Like,
hey.
P
nathan,
dewey:,
one
of
the
members
did
this,
or
one
of
the
members
had
this
issue,
and
we've
been
able
to
clear
it
up
just
to
show
you
guys,
on
the
other
end,
that,
hey?,
this
member,
that
you
cited
for,
you
know,
doing
something
incorrectly.
I
went
in
there,
help
them
with
it,
and
they've
turned
themselves
around
that
kind
of
thing..
So
it's
also
a
resource
for
you
to
use
for
someone
who
who
you
may
want
to
help
out..
You
feel
like,
oh,.
We
want
to
give
this
person
another
chance,
and
maybe,
nathan
do,.
P
D
D
Clab,
tom
kunstman:,
although
that's
augmented.,
nathan
dewey:,
and
is
it
just
boulder
city
of
boulder,
county,
or
older
city
in
county,
or
it's
I
mean,
I'll,
be
boulders..
It's
boulder
city.
I
mean
the
main
focus,,
fuller
city,,
but
it
is
boulder
county
as
well,
and
so
I'll
be..
I
mean,
we
had..
We
have
a
member
in
grun
barrel,
and
then
longmont,,
I'm
going
to
go
approach,
people
and
long
one
as
well.
and
just
so,.
You
all
know
to
I'm
born
and
raised
longmont.,
so
boulder's
like
second
home
to
me,,
where
I
got
all
my
drugs.
P
Nathan
dewey:
in
high
school,,
so
I
mean
like
not
to
laugh.,
but
it
truly
is.
and
that's
just
another
thing
where
I
I
don't
want
my
kids
going
to
boulder
and
getting
their
drugs
from
there..
You
know
what
I
mean..
So
it's
another
thing
just
to
reinforce
a
responsibility.
there.
if
someone
does
have
an
issue
paying.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
definitely.
obviously,.
I
can't
take
everyone
on
for
free.,
but
I
don't
think
everybody
would
want
to
be..
But
if
I
have
somebody
who's
really
strapped
for
that
150
for
a
year,,
I
mean,.
I
can
spread
it
out
if
they
need
to,
or
we
can
let
it
go
for
one
year.
I
mean
to
be
quite
honest..
We
let
all
the
dues
go
for
all
the
alcohol
members
during
covid
and
the
year
after
covid,,
because
people
were
struggling
so
much.
P
D
P
P
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:
50
to
60
bucks
ahead
of
private
tips.
teacher,
comes
in.,
instructor
comes
into
boulder
or
is
in
boulder,
and
he's
charging
or
she's
charging.
they're
charging
50,
60
bucks,
ahead.
okay,.
I
come
into
town..
You
pay
me
150..
I
give
you
5
free
trainings.,
that's
a
hundred
dollar
value
right
there,
because
I
charge
you
$20
per
manual,
because
that's
the
cost
of
the
manual,
and
I'm
a
nonprofit.
right?.
P
P
P
Nathan
dewey:,
so
that's
where
I
was
like
at
first
when
I
heard,,
like
all
your
mandated
and
bolder
to
do
it.,
that's
kind
of
weird..
Now,
I'm
totally
for
it,,
like
I've
changed
my
thought
of
mine.,
I'm
pushing
for
columns
and
greenly
to
do
the
same
thing,,
and
I
wish
the
med
would
honestly
do
the
same
thing
with
their
buttenders,,
because
someone
like
myself
or
the
other
trainers
who
do
responsible
vendor
training
for
marijuana.,
we
we
have
a
curriculum..
We
have
to
follow
through
the
state.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
so
the
states
telling
us
to
follow
their
curriculum
for
our
manuals,
and
if
we
go
into
their
dispensary,
and
we
train
all
their
folks,,
those
that
dispensary
will
be
viewed
as
a
responsible
dispensary,
and
should
they
get
an
infraction
or
something,.
And
it's
not
too
negligent.
obviously,
that
that
will
be
a
mitigating
benefactor.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
so
really,,
that's
what
I'm
kind
of
asking
for
to
eventually
with
you
all.,
if
you
get
into
the
licensing
and
such
like.
consider
doing
what
the
bla
does
in
that
sense.,
where
you
say,
hey,,
we
need
your
folks,,
even
if
it's
just
boulder,
and
it's
not
the
state
of
colorado.
We
need
your
folks
trained,
whether
it's
by
me
or
another
buttender
trainer.,
it
doesn't
matter,,
but
we
need
proof
that
this
person
has
taken
the
state
curriculum
required
by
the
me.
d.
P
D
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P
Nathan
dewey:,
so
I
get
my
information
that
way
as
well,
and
I
and
we
do
work
with
the
md.
as
well..
I
try
to
stay
abreast
of
the
concentrations
and
the
things
like
that.
cd,
ph,.
She
wants
to
kind
of
put
out
there.
like,
for
example,
tom
in
the
past
cdp..
She
approached
me
during
one
of
the
meok
meetings,
and
we
collaborated
in
a
way
to
really
push
out
the
knowledge
about
breastfeeding
and
and
thc.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
because
it's
not
like
you're.,
it's
not
like
with
alcohol,
right?,
it
stays
in
the
body..
And
so
what
I
was
able
to
do
is
make
these
little
pamphlets
that
went
out
with
every
single
sale,
at
every
dispensary.
and
it's
not
them
playing,
doctor..
It
was
just..
It
was
provided
to
me
by
the
cd.
ph..
I
helped
collaborate
it,
and
did
a
little
graphic
design
on
it,,
and
then
all
of
my
members
for
6
months
straight
with
every
single
sale,,
was
putting
that
out.
There.
so,
for
example.
P
P
Nathan
dewey:
because
they
want
to.,
they
really
do
the
members
up
here
in
4
months..
They
really
want
to
promote
their
responsibility..
They
don't
want
to
hurt
their
patrons..
They
don't
want
to
hurt
kids..
They
don't
want
to
promote
anything.
That's
too
negligent,
and
a
lot
of
the
places
that
don't
join
are.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
are
the
places
that
that
do
want
to
promote
those
things?.
If
that,
for
you
know,
lesser
for
a
better.,
I
don't
have
a
better
way
of
saying
that
the
people
who
are
shady
aren't
going
to
join,
or
let's
put
it
that
way,,
but
those
are
also
the
people
that
I
go
after
and
say,
hey,
you
need
to
join
are
right
because
you're
seen
as
being
shady,
and
that's
not
good.
and
you're
gonna
get
in
trouble,
or
you're
gonna
get
one
of
your
employees,
trouble,
or
you're
gonna
kill
one
of
your
patrons.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
or
whatever
it
might
be,
to
be
the
extreme
right.
so
yes,
I
do..
I
do
try
to
keep
up
on
all
of
it
as
much
as
possible..
I
have
to
redo
my
my
vendor
training,
every
2
years.,
just
like
the
just
like
the
buttenders
need
to
recertify.
every
2
years.
I
have
to
put
my
program
up
for
you,
certification,
every
2
years.
and
I
do
like,
okay,.
P
Nathan
dewey:
I
made
pamphlets,
and
I
had
people
put
that
information
out
to
their
customers,,
because
there's
tons
of
people
who
may
be
using
marijuana,
but
are
getting
sick
from
it,
and
they
don't
know
it.,
they
think
they're.
They
think
they're
trying
to
cure
that
nausea,
when,
in
fact,
they're
only
reinforcing
that.,
not
right?.
So
that's
the
kind
of
thing
where
we
just
try
to
generally
educate
folks
and
our
members,,
you
know.,
let's
just
say
9
out
of
10
of
them-
are
on
board
all
the
time.
With
wanting
to
do.
That.
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P
Nathan,
dewey:
get
well
like
the
uber,;
only
they
they
only
gave
only,,
but
they
gave
us..
They
give
us
like
a
pre
first
ride.
Z
trip
gives
like
$5
off
a
ride.,
these
sorts
of
things,
and
it
changes.
the
promotions
change
from
time
to
time,
and
they'll,
give
us
seasonal
like
during
christmas.
and
stuff,.
We
get
like
10%
off
the
ride,
20
off
the
ride
it
it.
It
changes.
P
P
P
Nathan,
dewey:-
and
it's
been
that
way
since
I
went
to
school
there,
20
years
ago,
and
one
of
my
friends
got
a
dui
because
he
didn't
want
to
leave
his
truck
overnight
in
one
of
those
spots..
So
we've
actually
made
maps
and
you
can
go
online
now,
and
you
can
see
where
you
can
safely
park
your
car.
and
that's
for
everybody..
It's
not
just
for
alcohol
or
ours,,
not
just
alcohol
focus..
We
used
to
be
responsible
alcohol
association,,
but
when
we
incorporated.
P
Nathan,
dewey:
cannabis.
I
changed
the
acronym
to
a
responsible
association
of
retailers.
and
that's
because
cannabis
has
the
same
thing.
I
mean,
like,,
you
take
a
97%
dab
or
pen,
and
you're
just
as
messed
up
as
if
you
you
drank
a
bit..
You
know
what
I
mean
quite
a
bit.
you.
You
should
not
be
operating
a
motor
vehicle
and
the
other
thing,
tom..
Just
so
you
know
what
I'm
doing
up
north
right,
now.
be
like,.
My
main
thing
is
you:
you
are
not
better
driving
high.
P
P
Nathan
dewey:
smoke
in
a
joint
because
my
friends
were
wasted,
and
I
could
drive
really
well,
high,
right?
well,.
I
know
now,
after
tests,
after
driving,
simulators,
and
and
we
just
got
federally
authorized
to
do
what
wet
labs
where
they
get
people
drunk
and
drive
on
close
courses..
They
actually
were
able
to
get
people
high,
different
ways
and
have
them
physically
drive..
And
let
me
tell
you.
P
Nathan
dewey:,
nobody
is
better
driving
high,
and
that's
the
kind
of
information
we're
disseminating
right
now
in
northern
colorado,
and
that's
the
kind
of
information
I
will
be
disseminating
through
the
same
campaign
with
no.
dui,
colorado
into
boulder
county
as
well..
So
right
now,
it's
in
weldon,,
laramer,
county,,
boulder
county
should
be
next.
D
D
Nathan,
dewey:,
and
I
think
we
shall
move
on
in
the
agenda,,
though
great.
well,.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
time,
and
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
at
any
time,.
If
you
have
any
questions,
and
I'll
be
in
boulder
a
lot
these
next
6
months,,
so
I'd
be
happy
to
meet
any
of
you
in
person
for
coffee
or
or
whatnot.
my
treat?.
Let
me
know.
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Q
Jonathan
samet:,
so
in
terms
of
what
we've
done
is
completed
this
scoping
review,
and
we'll
tell
you
how
to
access
it..
We
have
publications
that
have
gone
off
to
the
scientific
literature..
We
are
proceeding
with
a
review
focused
on
the
mental
health
outcomes
and
the
effects
of
these
products.
on
certain
adverse
consequences.
Q
Jonathan
samet:,
so
you
can
find
everything.
and
and
kristen
has
the
slide,,
so
you'll
have
access
to
this.,
but
we
have
a
website
that
includes
all
our
reports,,
the
meetings,,
the
scientific
view,
counsel,
our
presentation,
materials.
and
importantly,.
You
can
access
the
actual
scoping
review
itself
and
sort
through
the
many
scientific
publications
from
which
we've
abstracted.
the
results..
I
would
urge
you
to.
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
means
more
specifically
high
concentration.
and
there's
not
an
an
agreed
to
definition
of
what
high
concentration
may
is..
So
we've
cast
a
net
pretty
widely
in
doing
our
review
and
for
those
of
you,
not
in
the
systematic
review
business..
It
means
that
you're
going
to
in
an
open,,
transparent,
way,,
go
out
and
find
all
the
evidence
relevant
to
the
question
that
you
want
to
address.
Next.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:,
so
the
methods
are
here..
We
did
this
massive
review,
and
I'll
show
you
the
large
number
of
articles
we've
seen
on
the
next
slide..
We
ended
up
extracting
data
from
those.
yeah,.
You
can
go
to
the
next,
and
we'll
flip
back
and
forth
a
little
bit,,
maybe
kristen..
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
one.
you'll
see
we
screened.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
and
then
we've
gone
from
there..
We
have
this
review.
I
mentioned
on
mental
health
outcomes,
and
we're
doing
2
further
reviews
in
support
of
the
educational
campaign
to
look
at
what
we
know
about
mass
media,
behavioral
interventions..
We
have
a
behavioral
sciences
group
looking
at
this
and
then
looking
at
the
more
sort
of
contemporary.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
and
again,
limited
data,,
some
on
adverse
consequences
and
someone
potentially
beneficial
consequences.
one
of
our
scientific
view.
Council
members
was
particularly
interested
in
question
3.
and
again,,
not
to
minimize
the
importance
of
the
question..
It
just
turns
out
that,
in
terms
of
the
high
concentration
products.
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
and
here
you
can
see
jonathan
samet:,
a
range
of
outcome..
So
if
you
go
to
the
evidence,
map,
you'll
find
that
there
are
many
different
health
outcomes
that
have
been
studied.
and
they
relate
to
neurologic
pain,
relief.
of
course,
mental
health
sleep..
We
looked
at
driving
impairment.
Q
Jonathan
samet:
and
other
adverse
effects.
and
again,,
you
can
see
the
number
of
studies
here,
with
the
mental
health
outcomes
standing
out
for
the
amount
of
information,
available.
and
again,
with
sufficient
information,.
We
believe,
for
us
to
do
this
more
detailed,
systematic
review
that
we
are
now.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
address
the
consequences
of
use
through
regulation.
Concentration
is
one
of
the
factors,
and
of
course,
there
are
many
other
factors
that,
in
the
end,
will
determine
what
health
outcomes,
occur.
and,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
individualization
about
this,
too,
in
terms
of
who
people
are,
what
underlying
health
conditions
they
may
have.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
questions.
and
I
will
say,
sort
of
in
the
jonathan
samet:,
immediate
thing..
We
are
as
researchers
concerned,
with
the
quality
of
the
research.,
we're
putting
together
a
paper
right
now
on
the
problems.
We've
encountered.
plan
to
do
a
workshop
on
how
to
do
better,
research.,
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
the
piloting
of
the
educational
campaigns
and.
Q
E
E
Clab-Michael
christy:
that
there
was
a
moderate
amount
of
evidence
that
supported
the
adverse
effects
of
high
potency.
thc..
But
then
the
other
entry
said
that
there
was
a
moderate
amount
of
evidence
that
supported
the
beneficial
effects..
How
do
you??
How
does
your
agency
reconcile
that
difference?.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
F
Clab-Robin
noble:
thanks,,
dr.
salmon..
I
appreciate
the
presentation.
and
I
just
wonder
about
ongoing
stuff..
There
was
a
really
large
study
that
came
out
in
may..
I
was
a
a
epidemiological
investigation,,
a
danish
one
that
looked
at
6.9
million
people
and
said
that
about
30%
of
schizophrenia.
Diagnoses
could
have
been
avoided.
If
people
hadn't
developed
a
cannabis
misuse
to
sort.
F
F
Jonathan
samet:,
how
do
you
continue
to
look
at
emerging
data?
because
sorry.
go
ahead.
thank
you.
well,?
I
I,
I
think,
so,
you
know.,
first
of
all,,
thanks.
I'll
have
to
go,
look
for
the
study
and
the
the
danish,
and
that
you
know,
all
the
scandinavian
countries.
Do
this
remarkably
large
studies,
because
I
can
link
everybody
in
the
country
and
and
do
database
linkage,,
which,
unfortunately,.
We
can't
do
in
the
us.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Jonathan
samet:
tobacco
products
out
in
the
marketplace,,
where
they
change
quickly.
and
we
identify
that..
Let's
say
we
have
an
epidemic
of
jewel,
use.
start
to
study,
it.
and
suddenly
the
marketplace
has
moved
on
to
something
else..
So
there's
a
there's,
a
challenge
here
that
we
have
to
address
to
be
able
to
get
the
best
information.
S
Ashley
brooks-russell:,
but
I
add
to
that
there
are
some
resources
that
weren't,
you
know,
developed
with
quite
such
rigorous
methods.,
but
or
you
know,,
our
state
health
department
of
has
done
and
and
is,
you
know,
conducting,,
ongoing
or
review
of
the
literature.
and
so,.
If
there's
interest
in
the
the
degree
of
evidence
and
kind
of
similar
statements
of
public
health
implications
with
moderate,
limited.
S
Ashley
brooks-russell:
and
strong
evidence:
cdpg
has
resources
in
that
area
that
are
more
current
than
the
it's
to
to
medicine
report..
That
would
be
the
really
the
only
other
resource.
I
know
about
that
that
compiles
all
the
evidence
in
that
way.,
so
they
would..
They
would
no
doubt
be
looking
at
that
danish
study
if
they
haven't
already,
and
be
updating
their
their
statements
to
reflect..
You
know
increasing
evidence
pointing
towards
that
outcome.
F
Q
Q
J
Q
Q
J
I
Q
Clab-Stacy
green:,
you
had
to
use
this
research
marijuana
from
the
university.
3
thc,,
it's
too
relevant
to
what
we're
dealing
with.
so
yeah,.
It's
really
kind
of
a
silly
situation
that
makes
no
sense.
and
yet
we're
stuck
in
it..
So
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
are
doing
what
you
can
with
like
a
dirt
floor,
situation,
so
to
speak..
I
I
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Q
Q
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Q
Q
D
D
I
I
Clab-Stacy
green:
create
an
infrastructure
that
collect
data
because
we
don't
even
really
have
that
yet.
right?,
I
mean,
there's
so
many
products.,
there's
new
products
to
the
market,
every
day.,
it's
like
how
you,,
even
even
if
my
practice
where
I
hear
about
this
stuff
regularly.
I
hear
about
new
stuff
often.,
I'm
like,,
oh,
like,,
I
haven't
even
heard
of
that.,
and
so
collecting
data
in
itself
is
already,.
You
know,,
like
a.
I
I
I
Clab-Stacy
green:
I,,
it
seems
like
there
are
places
to
begin
that
are
within
reach
that
we
could
then
use
in
other
senses.
To,
because,,
you
know,
from
all
aspects,.
It
would
be
helpful
to
have
that
data,,
not
just
looking
at
cannabis,
research
specifically,,
but
for
other
industry
measures,,
even
licensing..
So
I
mean,
that's
all
information
that
would
be
really
handy
to
be
able
to
manage
in
a
objective
and
consistent
way
between.
I
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Clab-Robin
noble:
any
comments,,
or
shall
I
go
on
the
robin.
and
just
another
comment,
dr.
sam.
it?
You
know
those
of
us
who've
had
a
loved
one.
Who's
experienced
a
devastating
health
outcome
feel
this
enormous
frustration
that
these
products
are
out
there,
and
we're
still
waiting
on
the
the
research.
we
feel
like
it
should
be
the
other
way.
Around.
and,,
like.
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Clab-Robin
noble:,
my
person
had
cannabis,
hyper,
emmesis
syndrome,,
and
that
was
devastating.
and
we
had
a
panel
on
that
last
week,
and
we
learned
that
there's
still
not
a
hospital
code
to
track
that
in
colorado.,
so
it
yes,
to
dr.
green's
point,,
there's,
definitely
a
problem.
there's,
not
the
federal
legislation.,
but
in
colorado
we
should
at
least
be
tracking.
what's
happening
in
the
er.
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brooks-russell:
years.,
so
yeah,
yeah,
on
the
healthy
kids,
colorado
survey..
We
were
lucky
enough
to
expand
our
questions
about
marijuana
use
before
legalization
in
2,014.,
and
so
I
feel,
like
our
state,
has
a
a
good
sense
of
trends.,
but
it
is.
it's.
You
have
to
stay
on
top
of
it.,
we've
had
to
add
response.
Options.
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Ashley
brooks-russell:,
you
know,,
like
delivery.
Service,
you
know,
trying
to
anticipate..
Is
that
gonna
be
something
we're
gonna
want
to
know
about..
So
we
have
to
add
the
response
option
before
you
know,
it's
a
real
issue.
and
changing
terminology
and
making
sure
we're
using
the
language.
Youth
would
use.,
so
they
recognize
themselves
in
the
question.
and
it
it
is..
It
is
really
a
a
challenge
to
anticipate
problems
before
they're,
so
big
that
that
you
wish
you
had
a
question
or
a
data
point.
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andy
frohardt:,
upon
receipt
of
the
completed
application,
the
operating
fee,
criminal,
background,,
fee,
annual,
license
fee,
and
any
other
applicable,
applicable
fees..
So,
with
respect
to
this
licensing,
function,,
that's
as
long
as
basically,
we've
received
a
complete
application.
and
all
of
these
fees
have
been
paid.
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Cob,
kristen
changaris:,
our
applications
are
usually
in
pretty
good
shape,
and
we,.
You
know,.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
review
them
and
provide
feedback
to
the
applicants
if
they
are
missing
information.
and
there's
some
back
and
forth.
That
happens.
There.
but
overall
I'd
say
it's
a
pretty
smooth
process.
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Clab-Robin
noble::
does
this
staff
give
us
a
give
a
recommendation
during
the
way
what
you
described
kristen
with
the
bla,,
the
way
you
do
the
public
hearing
first,
and
then
the
staff
does
their
inspections
and
fees
and
all
that
after.,
but
in
the
first
instance,,
when
it's
heard,
is
there
a
staff
recommendation
upfront
at
all
that
goes
into
the
hearing??
Is
that
input
there
or
not?.
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Cob,
andy
frohardt:
it,.
It
would
just
be
good
to
get
those
in
advance
of
the
next
meeting,,
so
we
could
try
to
get
whatever
draft.
We
have
available
based
upon
that
input
ready
for
the
next
meeting.
and
then
that
might
include
teen
up
some
of
the
bigger
questions
or
comments,.
If
there
are
any
for
that,
meeting.
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bayley
she/her:,
I
just
wanted
to.
clab,
tom
kunstman:,
yeah.
clab-allison,
bayley,
she/her:
yeah.
just
wanted
to
say,
tom,.
I
know
you
probably
an
offhanded
comment
that
didn't
mean
any
harm.,
but
would
ask
that
you
not
make
light
of
folks,
pronouns
and
use
of
pronouns
and
the
importance
of
being
gender
neutral.
moving
forward.
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tom
kunstman:
people
that
write
things
for
the
editor
or
the
community
members?
and
every
time
I
was
reading
through
it,
everybody
kept
talking
about
marijuana,
and
now
I'm
sensitized
to
that,
too,,
because
I
just
like
wait.,
I
can't
marijuana.
it's
not
supposed
to
be
marijuana,.
You
know.
it's
supposed
to
be
cannabis,
except
that's
what
the
state
still
calls
it.
so.
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tom
kunstman:,
when
the
board
presented
to
the
city
council,
and
it
was
all
set
that
brian
was
going
to
join
virtually,.
If
I
think,
for
michigan,
or
some
place
distant.
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
his
schedule
changed,
and
he
was
unable
to
plan
to
be
there,.
And
so
we
kind
of
brian
and
I
kind
of
scrambled,.
And
we.
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Clab-Allison
bayley
she/her:,
the
clubs
had
a
specific
clab-allison
bayley
she/her:
timing
in
mind
of
wanting
to
implement
the
recommendations.,
and
I
said
from
my
recollection
that
the
board
wanted
to
know
as
soon
as
possible
to
get
some
direction
from
from
city.
Council.,
but
not
necessarily
when
things
would
go
into
effect.
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tom
kunstman:,
me?
d,
clab,
tom
kunstman:,
right
back
when
clab-robin
noble:,
maybe
2
years
ago
or
so,
I
mean
we
had
somebody
not
too
long
ago.
that
was
that..
I
I
I
can
see
her
face..
I
just
can't
think
of
her
name.
she's
great.
she's,
a
big
speaker..
She
came
and
talked
about
the
enforcement
numbers
that.
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Clab-Robin
noble:
that
the
legislature
looked
at
and
considered
a
bill
on,,
and
that
has
something
to
do
with
that
report
that
I
mentioned
earlier
that
I'll
share
in
the
next
packet..
But
maybe
we
take
a
look
at
that
report
and
see
if
the
board
members
have
questions
coming
off
of
that.
and
and
officer.
Pam
could
probably
weigh
in
on
that,
as
well
as
the
subject
for
the
for
future
conversation.
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Clab-Robin
noble:,
I
quick
question:
if
you
don't
mind
sherry.,
just
wonder
if
the
staff
are
working
through
anything
we're
having
the
board.
take
a
look
at
something
might
be
helpful
in
terms
of
licensing
staff,
or
your
group,.
Andy,
is
there,
is
it?.
Are
there
questions
that
you
guys
want
that
board
to
look
at
or
need
some
weighing
in
on
from
us.
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Clab-Robin
noble:
yeah,
thanks
so
much.
I
just
I
just
think
I
just
keep
going
back
to
that
policy.
Suggestion
form
that
we
got..
That
seems
to
say
that
we
have
a
problem
with
buttenders
making
medical
recommendations.,
and
I
want
to
explore
this
idea
of
vendor
training,
or
but
tender
trainer,,
whatever
it
might
be.
to
make
sure.
That's
not
happening.
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Clab-Allison
bayley
she/her:
if
there
were
similar
clab-allison,
bayley
she/her:
objectives
or
things
that
were
really
predefined,
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
in
a
retreat.
I'd,
be
all
for
it.
and
I
do
think
it
makes
sense
to
revisit..
You
know
some
of
the
expectations..
I
think
that's
really
helpful
when.
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Clab-Stacy
green:,
you
know,
just
learning
a
little
more
about
each
other's
backgrounds,
where
we
don't
have
time
to
do
that
during
meetings.,
so
that
I
think
would
be
useful..
I
agree.
It
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
whole
day.
Thing.,
it
could
be
even
shorter
than
half.
Day.
doesn't
necessarily
need
a
facilitator
unless
there
are
more
what's
best
for
you,
putting
it
like
challenging
topics
to
address,.
I
think
in
that.
I
I
Clab-Stacy
green:
and
then
the
camera
thing.
yeah,,
I
mean,.
If
we
are
in
a
meeting
in
person,
and
leave
to
go
to
the
restroom,
for
example.,
that's
a
ken
to
having
your
camera
off
right
like
stepping
out
and
sharing
a
root,
all
of
our
real
quick..
So
everyone
doesn't
have
to
watch
you,
too,
like,.
Those
are
the
types
of
moments.
right?.
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
adult
discretion
and
professionally
be
able
to
turn
off
our
cameras
when
we
feel
like
that's
appropriate.,.
I
Clab-Stacy
green:
or
if
you
have
a
quick
trip
in
your
car,
or
whatever
it
might
be.,
but
I
I
think
it
can
be
part
of
the
expectations
that
in
general,
we'll
leave
our
cameras.
On,
you
know,,
barring
those
times
where
a
a
member
has
to
do
whatever
they
have
to
do,
and
the
rest
of
the
world
doesn't
need
to
their
witness
to
that
right?.
So,
just
like
you
would
in
a
regular
meeting.
you
know,,
you
can
step
out.
we,.
You
know
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
big
deal.
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Clab-Robin
noble:,
I
yeah,
I
mean,.
I
I
like
the
retreat
as
well.,
so
I'm
totally
willing
to
do
that,
and
in
terms
of
the
rules
and
stuff
like
that..
The
one
thing
that
I
think
might
be
helpful
to
andy's
point
is,.
If
you
are
going
to
miss.,
maybe
we
have
a
make
a
commitment
to,
unless
it's
an
emergency,
letting
somebody
know.
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Clab-Stacy
green:
well,
it's
important
also
for
quorum,
right?
like..
If
4
people
suddenly
drop
out
the
last
minute,,
then
the
rest
of
us
have
blocked
off
that
time,
and
we
don't
have
quorum..
Then
the
time
is
wasted
for
everyone.,
so
it
seems
like,.
That's
a
real
important
thing
to
do,
you
know,
to
like,.
Let
people
know
if
you're
not
going
to
be
there
because.
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Clab-Robin
noble:,
it's
just
the
camera,
has
this
tradition
of
keeping
a
volunteer
board
of
of
writers,
and
they
will
take
up
a
different,
topic.
and
they've
been
doing
this
for,.
Like
I
don't
know.,
I
want
to
say
about
15
years
or
so..
It's
always
really
interesting.
you.
You
always
get
lots
of
different
flavors.
and
I
I
thought
the
column
was
pretty
good.
when
it's
worthy,
it's
worth
a
read,
and
if
maybe
we
can
include
it
in
the
next
packet.