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Cob,
katelyn
kellogg:
member
below
clab,,
alana,
malone:,
present
cob,
katelyn,
kellogg:,
member,,
noble
clab,,
robin
noble:,
present
cob,
katelyn,
kellogg:,
ex
officio,
thompson,
clab,,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
present.,
cob,,
katelyn,
kellogg:
and
then
member
christina's
accent
and
exhibition.
Member
bailey.
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Jonathan
singer:
(he/him):
okay.,
I
apologize,
jonathan.
why,
don't,.
You
start
again.
you're
you're,
a
great
start..
You
got.!
You
got
me
on
such
a
role,
now,,
so
I'll
I'll,
reintroduce
myself,
again.
so
jonathan
singer,
and
I
wanted
to
reintroduce
myself
my
new
role
as
the
senior
director
of
policy
programs
with
the
boulder
chamber
of
commerce.
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Jonathan
singer,
(he/him):
that
allows
for
the
existence
of
jonathan
singer:
(he/him):
cannabis,
hospitality.,
jonathan,
singer,
(he/him):.
The
first
reason
for
this
is
because
we
already
know
that
public
consumption
is
happening..
We
also
know
that
when
things
are
well
regulated,
like
they
are
for
liquor
here
in
colorado
and
in
boulder.
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Jonathan
singer
(he/him):
in
terms
of
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping..
The
one
thing
that
I
would
recommend
in
terms
of
what
the
cloud
could
do
is
really
to
amend
the
ordinance
requiring
a
direct
representative
in
the
cannabis
industry
to
sit
on
the
cloud
have
a
residential
requirement
in
the
city
of
boulder..
We
know
the
city
of
boulder
is
a
very
expensive
place.
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evan
anderson:
yeah,
jonathan,
nice
to
meet
you..
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
speaking..
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time.
I.
my
immediate
question
is
right
there
at
the
end,
you
said
something
to
the
effect
of
allowing
a
cloud
industry
or
a
cloud
participant
from
the
industry.
That
is
not
a
resident
of
the
city.
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Jonathan
singer
(he/him):
is
that
accurate?.
Is
that
what
you
were
getting
at
there?
yeah.,
yeah,
exactly.?
It
would
be.
and
and
yeah,
thank
you,
mr.
anderson,
for
the
question.
yeah,.
I
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
having
a
preference
for
somebody
who
is
a
city
resident.,
but
as
long
as
their
business
is
doing
business
within
the
city
of
boulder.
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evan
anderson:.
It
wouldn't
change
the
fact
that
I'm
still
an
employer
of
65
people
in
the
city..
If
you're
an
outside
resident,,
you
don't
have
the
same
tie
to
the
community
that
a
business
owner
who
doesn't
live
here
but
operates
here.
Every
day,
does
so..
I
would..
I
would
say
that
I
would
disagree
with
you,
tom..
I
don't
think
that
that
should
be
opened
up
to.
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clab,
evan
anderson:,
probably
going
to
increase
the
sophistication
of
the
individual
who's
going
to
get
on
this
board,
and
perhaps
they'll
be
slightly
more
diplomatic
than
me,
and
be
more
productive
than
I
have
been
here,.
So
I
I
hope
that
we
can
take
the
best
candidate,,
not
necessarily
on
their
residency,,
but
on
the
fact
that.
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robin
noble:-
I
just
would
ask
that
we
we
commit
to
our
what
we've
talked
about
and
sticking
with
the
agenda..
I
think
we're
not
supposed
to
go
off
on
tangents.
we're
supposed
to
hear
what
people
have
to
say,
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
time,,
and
I
think,
we'll
all
have
a
lot
to
say
about
local
control,,
the
you
know,
and
the
board
make
up.
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Jonathan
singer:
(he/him):
can
you?,
can
you
refresh.
yeah,
yeah,?
I'm
also
trying
to
remember
it
now
as
a
recovering
lawmaker.
no,.
I
am
just
just
to
be
clear.,
I'm
a
resident
of
one..
I
work
from
the
boulder
chamber,,
so
I'm
not
angling
to
be
on
on
the
cloud
here
that
wasn't
my
my
ploy
here
today.,
but
but
in
in
in
all
seriousness.
I
was.
I
was
elected
in
2,012,
and
I
served
from
january
of
2,012
through
through
the
end
of
2,020,,
so
8
and
a
half
years,
almost
9
years
in
the
state
legislature.
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Jonathan
singer,
(he/him):
yeah,
a
couple
of
things:
one
is
jonathan:
singer
(he/him):
there
were.
there
were
2
updates,
right?
it
was..
It
was
for
the
allowance
of
of
canada's
hospitality,
and
the
second
thing
was,,
an
update
to
the
colorado,
clean
indoor
and
the
update
in
2,019
to
the
colorado,,
clean,,
indoor
or
clean
indoor..
Eric
was
solely
not
based
on
on
what
was
going
on
in
the
world
of
cannabis.
Hospitality.
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Jonathan
singer
(he/him):
and
if
they're
a
renter.,
it
is
not
necessarily
the
case.
if
you're
a
renter
and
you're
consuming
a
cannabis
product..
So
there
are
a
lot
of
little
details,
and
I
won't
re
reiterate
some
of
the
issues
with
tourism
as
well.
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
were
able
to
to
enjoy
and
invite.
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Jeff
gard:
to
participate
jeff
gard:
as
a
board
member
for
cloud,
many
times..
What
prohibits
me
from
being
able
to
do
that
is
that
I
live
across
the
street
from
country,
the
country
club,,
not
in
the
country
club,,
which
puts
me
in
on
incorporated
boulder
county..
Although
my
my
official
address.,
my
business
address,
is
on
26
and
spruce,
street.
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Jeff
gard:,
you
know
it.
it..
It
is
something
that
I
think
mr.
singer
brings
a
good
point
to,,
and
is
that
you
want
people
on
the
cloud
who
are
vested
in
the
issues..
Who
are
you
know,?
Who
care
about
it,
and
I
think
allison's
a
great
example.,
because
she
brings
so
much
to
the
board.
my,
every
one
of.
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Jeff
gard:
about,,
at
least
with
the
industry
seats,.
If
not
others,,
I
mean
I
I
I
like
fairness
on
these
things,
but
something,
I
think,
should
come
up
for
consideration.
obviously,.
I
suggested
lots
of
people
to
be
on
the
board,
and
evan
was
one
of
the
people
that
I
said,
hey,.
You
should
be
on
the
board.
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Jeff
gard:
at
at
the
campus
level,
or
on
the
street,
or
in
pearl
street,
or
anything
any
kind
of
public
consumption..
So
if
they
see
you
doing,
it,
they'll
tell
you
to
put
it
out.,
but
the
penalties
are
so
low.
Now
that
it's
not
worth
clogging
up
the
court
system
to
to
to
do
the
ticket.,
so
we
have
de
facto
public
consumption.
now,.
I
just
thought
by
bringing
it
indoors.
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Clab,
stacy
green:
in
favor
of
the
hospitality
establishments,
I
think,
at
least
from
my
standpoint,
one
of
the
reasons
I
am
in
support,,
and
I
think
this
was
already
said
was
to
try
and
get
it
off
the
streets..
I
mean,,
I
think,
a
lot
about
youth
walking
around.
if
there's
public
consumption,
that
just
really
in
my
mind,
opens
the
door
to
a
lot
more
problems.
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Clab,
stacy
green:
establishments,,
at
least
with
what
we've
been
voting
so
far.,
but
it
would
really
be,
in
my
opinion,
the
absolutely
wrong
move
to
just
make
public
consumption,
legal
and
boulder.
as
it
is,.
I
think,
people,.
I
I
think
this
regard
just
said,
like
visitors,
or
what
not,
to
the
state.
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Clab,
stacy
green:
slap
on
the
wrist,.
If
that
it,,
it
just
feels
like
the
totally
wrong
direction
to
be
moving
to
start,
allowing
people
to
smoke,
and
on
the
street
as
opposed
to
having
these,
you
know,,
very
controlled
environments,
where
we
could
at
least
have
some
semblance
of
say,
and
what's
going
on,
and
who's
doing
it?.
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Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
hi,
sandra,,
how
you
doing
clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
good?.
I
had
a
question
about
that.
Just
in
terms
of
you
know,,
if,
if
it's
the
on
recommendation
of
of
the
the
person
present
like
an
attorney
of
present,,
that
that's
for
the
board.
I'm.,
also
known
as
kathy
in
this
in
this.
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Clab,
alana
malone:
would
directly
benefit
me
in
my
business
here
in
boulder
clab,
alana
malone:
and,,
as
you'll
know,.
I
submitted
that
in
a
policy
suggestion
form
at
the
beginning
of
my
time
on
cloud,,
and
then
I've
never
raised
it
since,
because
I
realized
we
could
have
a
conversation,,
but
I'd
be
recused
from
it,
because
there's
no
way.
I
could
constantly
up
keep
that
policy,
because
I
would
be
the
first
one
to
want
to
benefit
from
it.
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Clab,
evan
anderson:
product
or
who
voted
clab,,
evan
anderson:
for
it
clab,
evan
anderson:
is
not
here.
Today.
clab,,
evan
anderson:
I
in
in
the
process
of
going
through
and
making
my
comments
for
these
recommendations,.
I
think
I
noted
something
in
here,
and
unfortunately,.
I
didn't
have
the
ability
to
share
this
with
all
of
you.
Immediately.
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Clab,
evan
anderson:
consider
a
little
more
deeply
the
detail
of
what
we're
recommending
here,,
and
I
made
a
motion
that
I
shared
with
all
of
you
earlier
that
we
will
get
to
soon
enough..
But
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
thing
for
us
to
look
a
little
more
closely
at
this
subject
before
we
pass
off
recommendations
that.
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Clab,
stacy
green:,
then
the
votes,
probably
gonna,
look
the
same,
and
the
only
difference
with
you
taking
on
this
risk,
then,
would
be
having
recorded
that
you
were
either
for
or
against
it..
So
I
guess
I
just
want
to
understand
from
you
a
little
more,
why
you
would
want
to
re-vote
on
this
like..
Why
is
that.
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Clab,
stacy,
green:
or
roughly,,
say
70
to
90,
ish
concentrate
material.
and
when
you
calculate
dosing,,
medicinally
speaking,,
the
concentration
of
the
medicine,
or
in
this
case
recreational
product
has
to
be
taken
into
account
as
part
of
the
equation..
So
it
doesn't
matter
if
you're
taking
a
half
a
hit.
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Clab,
stacy
green:
was
because
there
is
so
much
unknown..
We
don't
know
that
it's
safer.
so,,
even
though
there
is
massive
usage.
of
this.
I
agree
that
clearly
seems
to
be
a
majorly
preferred
method..
It
feels
like
everywhere
I
go.
I
see
people
using
these,,
whether
that's
tobacco
or
cannabis,
or
both.,.
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Clab,,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
well,,
I'm
not
super
concise,
tom,,
so
I'll
do
my
best.,
but
I
I
just
wanna.
I
just
want
to
say
that,
like
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
really
drive
just
this..
I
have
more
comments
about
all
the
things
that
are
being
talked
about.,
but
I
really
want
to
just
talk
about
what.
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Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
we
can
bring
it
up,
and
we
think
it's
a
a
conflict
of
interest..
The
attorney
can
say
what
they
think,
and
if
she
wants
to
re-vote,,
then
I
mean,
I'm
not
a
voting
member,.
So
it
doesn't
really
like
my
opinion-
is
that
we
should
let
whoever
who
decides
that
they
want
to
vote
vote,,
and
if
that
means
a
revoked,,
then
we
should
take
a
remote.
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Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
in
this
specific
example.,
it's
like
telling
somebody
that
works
at
a
brewery.
That's
on
the
alcohol,
the
liquor
board
that
they
can't
talk
about
whether
or
not,
a
bar
should
serve
beer
like
this
is,.
This
is
really
like
a
very
basic
thing..
So
that's
my
opinion
on
this
specific
example.,
but
I
really
think
that
we
should
focus
on?.
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Clab,,
robin
noble:
concentrate
issue,
and
some
of
the
things
that
evan
brought
forward.
the
language
in
that
motion
is
very
specific..
It
it
says,,
marijuana
concentrates,
and
that's
a
state
definition,,
and
it's
not
a
method
or
a
delivery
system..
It's
actually
talking
about
the
state
definition
of
marijuana
concentrates..
So
there
was
some
care
and
thought
that
was
put
into
that
for
what
it's
worth.
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Clab,
evan
anderson:
a
a
clab,
evan
anderson:
mit
ctl.,
and
I
don't
think
that
I
was
selected
for
this
board
to
recuse
myself
from
every
vote
which
is,
I
mean,
in
looking
back
at
the
proposal,
we're
about
to
make
to
the
city.
I'd
have
to
recuse
myself
from
every
single
one
of
these,
because,
of
course,.
They
they
could
in
some
way
150.
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Clab,,
michael
christy:,
I
mean,,
I
gotta
be
honest
with
you
guys.
I'm
sitting
here.
Listening
to
this
conversation.,
I'm
I'm
pretty
shocked.
to
me.
It
seems
like
we,
as
a
board,
have
been
assigned
an
attorney
to
advise
us
on
what
is
within
the
parameters
of
the
city
charter.
What's
within
the
city,
regulations?.
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Clab,,
michael
christy:,
right.
and
and
stacey,,
I
totally
agree
with
you.,
but
you
know
what,
frankly,
a
lot
of..
If
you
want
your
position
to
be
known,,
we
can
put
that
on
the
record.
you've
already
come
forward
and
said
that
you
would
have
voted
differently,
and
that
you're
not
going
to
follow
the
advice
of
this
city
attorney,
and
that
you've
received
contrary
advice
from
your
own
attorney
or
from
jeff
guard..
I
mean.
the
reality.
Is.
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Clab,,
michael
christy:,
you
know,
as
a
lawyer.,
I
know
this,,
but
the
reality
is.
You
can
always
get
a
different
opinion
from
what
somewhat
from
what
other
some
other
lawyer
is
giving
you..
So
that's
a.
We
will
run
into
that
same
issue
every
time..
If
we're
going
to
have
this
debate
on
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
follow
the
city
attorney's
advice,,
because
if,
if
the
city
attorney
comes
to
me
and
says,
michael,,
you
need
to
recuse
yourself.
N
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
I
can
guarantee
you..
I
can
run
out
and
hire
someone
else
to
give
me.
Contrary
advice.,
so
I
I
think
we're
like
we,
we
are..
We
are
going
down
a
very
slippery
slope.
if
we
are
not
going
to
be
following
the
advice
of
our
own
city,
attorney,
and
and
I'm
not
trying
to
take
away
from
your
position
along,
and
how
you
feel
about
this.
N
N
N
G
G
G
G
N
N
N
Clab,
michael
christy:,
and,
ilona,,
you
said
you're
a
stickler
for
following
procedure..
Then
each
one
of
those
votes
should
go
back
to
the
city
attorney,
and
we
should
be
seeking
the
advice..
Is
there
a
conflict
of
interest?
and
if
there
is,
and
you
or
evan,
or
whoever
that
person
is,
decides
not
to
follow
that
advice,
and-
and
you
want
to
cast
your
vote.
F
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
process
at
this
point..
Sorry,
if
I'm
jumping
to
queue..
This
is
the
best
way
that
we
had
a
motion..
We
have
a
second,,
so
we
are
in
a
discussion,
face
now,,
but
should
sort
of
keep
an
eye
on
sort
of
coming
to
calling
for
a
vote
at
some
point..
Do
we
have
a
second,
or
we
have.?
We
have
a
motion
and
a
motion.
B
C
F
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:.
These
policies
are
in
place
for
a
reason.,
and
so
it
really
like
as
much
as
I
want
to
like.
say,
okay,,
let's
just
re-vote
and
move
on
with
this.,
so
we
can
actually
get
to
the
rest
of
our
agenda,
and
not
keep
talking
about
this
and
reading
about
it.
In
our
package
week
after
week.
L
L
L
G
G
B
G
G
I
J
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
can
say
that
as
an
owner
of
14,
or
I
do
not
have
a
hand
in
making
the
operational
business
decisions
for
the
company
anymore.
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
I
stepped
down
in
that
capacity..
So
perhaps
there's
a
specific
argument
that
could
be
made
there,.
But
I
think
it's
a
dangerous
conversation
for
us
to
invite
industry
participants.
I
I
C
Cob,
sandra
llanes:,
the
ordinance
that
created
this
board,,
so
I'm
very
much
aware
of
the
discussions
that
were
held
or
surrounding
it.,
and
so
I
don't
think
that,
just
because
we
decided
our
council
decided,
excuse
me
that
they
were
going
to
have
industry
representatives,.
They
decided
to
throw
out
the
code
of
conduct.
C
Cob,
sandra
llanes:
evaluate
them
on
a
case
by
case
basis..
I
welcome
you
to
meet
with
me
individually,,
so
we
could
talk
through
these
issues..
I
don't
think
this
is
a
great
use
of
time
right,
now.
personally,,
I
think
the
chair,
or
vice
chair,
needs
to
call
for
a
second
to
see
if
there's
a
second
on
this
motion,
and
we're
on.
B
N
N
N
N
N
N
Clab,
evan
anderson:
yeah,.
I
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day
there
was
an
inaccurate,
or
there
was
an
inconsistent
application
here..
If
we
were
supposed
to
recuse
ourselves,,
then
we
should
be
required
to
have
recused
ourselves
on
every
one
of
these
votes..
We
voted
on
very
specific
things.
kathy's,
fully
aware
that
alana
has
a
flower
license..
Why
did
she
not
speak
her
desire
to
have
a
lot
of
recuse
herself.
I
I
I
L
L
B
B
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
yeah,,
and
that
I
figured
to
myself,
like
I
said,
if
alana
wants
to
take
on
that
risk,
that's
up
to
her.,
but
I
think,
after
hearing
what
michael
said,
that
we
have
all
this
documented.
anyone
who's
interested
in
historically
going
through.
All
this
will
see
very
clearly
that
alone.
I
was
very
much
against.
L
B
B
B
B
B
B
G
B
I
I
I
I
I
I
B
B
M
M
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
be
here
when
we
talked
about
it..
There
was
something
I
talked
about
at
the
beginning..
I
I
can't..
I
can't
remember
what
it
was.
and
then
I
also
put
it
into
the
retreat.
information?.
I
had..
I
mean
it
kind
of
lends
itself
to
the
conversation
about
ex
officio
members
and
what
they
can
and
can't
do
in
terms
of
obviously
not
voting.
But
I
had
asked
a
question
on
whether
or
not
ex
to
show
members
could
make
motions
or
provide
seconds.
and.
M
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
I
haven't
heard
whether
or
not
that
that
is
something
that
is
allowed
or
not,,
or
if
it's
something
that
we
could
request,
if
it's
something
that
the
board
could
do,
or
if
it's
something
that
no
boards
can
have
done.
I
had
talked
I'd,
sent
a
message:
to,,
I
think
kathy
and
and
shawn
back
in
the
day.
just
say
like,.
Could
I
just
make
a
motion
and
then
not
make
seconds.?
So
therefore,
someone
on
the
board
would
have
to
make
a
decision.
on
whether
or
not
it
would
move
forward
so
anyway..
C
C
M
Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
well,
thank
you.
and
then
secondly,.
We
had
talked
about
last
time
kind
of
just
I
mean,.
I
know
we're
not
quite
moving
to
hospitality
quite
yet,,
but
we
will
be.
We
did
talk
about
going
one
section
at
a
time,,
so
it'll
be
pretty
easy
to
stop
one
section
and
take
a
break
when
it.
B
B
B
M
M
B
B
I
I
I
I
B
B
I
F
F
F
M
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
yeah,.
I
think
that
if
I
remember
correctly
from
the
last
meeting,
I,,
my
understanding
was,
we
were
going
to
go
through,
and
while
we
were
going
through
this
document,,
if
we
did
have
comments
that
we
wanted
to
leave,,
we
obviously
couldn't
leave
them,,
but
we
were
going
to
talk
through
it
in
this
meeting..
So
my
assumption
was
that
what
that
meant
was
we
would
go
through
line
by
line.
M
M
M
M
M
B
B
A
B
B
D
M
M
D
B
B
B
clab,
tom
kunstman:,
until
just
or
what?,
or
do
you
still
don't?
now
do
you
have
access
to
that?
alison
got
me
access
like
15
min
before
the
meeting
started.,
so
I've
copied
all
of
my
responses
in
there,
and
they
are
all
in
line
with
everyone
else's..
I
believe
I'm
actually.
The
final
comment
in
each
of
the
each
of
the
motions.
B
B
J
J
B
A
A
B
C
M
Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
yeah,,
I'm
looking
at
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
august
meeting
from
2,021,
and
it
says
number
keegan,
moved
green
seconded..
That
cloud
would
not
recommend
that
the
city
of
boulder
explore
mobile
hospitality,
or
bringing
your
own
cannabis,
retail
hospitality
establishments.
At
this
time
motion
past
7,
0.
J
M
M
B
B
M
M
B
M
M
E
M
M
M
B
M
M
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
about
whether
or
not
it
should
be
so..
It
says
club
recommends
the
boulder
city
council
that
marijuana
provisions
of
the
boulder
device
code
be
amended
for
the
city
to
opt
in
to
the
state
law
to
allow
marijuana
consumption
businesses..
It's
not
consumption.
businesses,
it's
hospitality.
M
M
M
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
hmm.,
yeah.,
clab,
evan
anderson:,
see
which?
clab,,
evan
anderson:
okay,
yeah..
What
I
suggested
there
is
that
the
license
would
be
governed
by
city
laws,
so
little
weird
to
say,
applicable
to
all
other
marijuana
businesses,,
because
there's
several
motions
further
down
this
document
that
treat
hospitality
businesses
different
than
other
marijuana
businesses..
So.
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
if
we
just
got
rid
of
applicable
to
all
the
marijuana
businesses,,
I
think
the
license
would
be
governed
by
city
laws.,
we're
going
to
pass
laws
to
regulate
the
whole
part
of
it,
or
the
whole
bit
of
it..
But
it's
not
going
to
be
the
exact,
same
as
other
marijuana
businesses..
So
I
think
if
we
strike
that
last.
I
M
M
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
B
C
Cob,
sandra
llanes:
okay,.
Do
you
want
to
ask
the
question
in
the
end,
or
I
I
mean
I
can
try
and
answer
it
again.,
I'm
just.,
I'm
not
sure.
If
I'm
answering
the
right
question.,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
this
isn't
the
motion
language.,
so
yeah,
summary
is
way
more
appropriate
because
none
of
these
are.
G
L
L
L
L
clab,,
stacy
green:,
should
we
just
say:
clab,
stacy
green:.
You
have
something
along
the
lines
of
pending
other
recommendations,
and
then,
like..
When
those
happen,
we
can
actually
reference
them
there..
You
know
what
I
mean,
like
if
there's
like
evans,
that
there's
other
ones
that
are
more
specific
down
the
list..
So
maybe
just
saying,
you
know,,
as
we
are
just
making
recommendations
to
council
anyway.
L
L
I
A
A
A
A
I
M
M
B
E
B
B
B
B
B
B
F
B
J
J
B
G
B
F
F
F
B
G
F
G
B
G
M
L
B
B
F
F
M
M
B
Clab,,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
well,.
What
we
could
we
could
put
it
under,.
I
mean
brian's,
already
brian's
putting
it
in
the
subject..
If
everybody
can
see
that
on
page
one,
he
was
putting
motion
0,
one
motion
0
to
if
people
are
open
to
that.
that
could
be
the
way
to
do,,
and
then
I
would
say
we
should
try
to
do
that.
B
I
I
I
F
M
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
B
B
J
J
Clab,
robin
noble:
that
it
was
a
thoughtful
and
in-depth
conversation,
and
we
decided
at
that
point
not
to
talk
about
delivery
systems,,
because
it's
a
different
conversation.
we
went
with
the
state
definition
of
marijuana
concentrates
as
what
we
looked
at
in
this
particular
motion.
If
you
want
to
bring
a
different.
J
I
I
L
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
into
the
facilities
to
be
using
them..
So
theoretically
speaking,
someone
could
walk
like.,
let's
say
you're
a
vape
pen
or
somebody
is
a
vap
pen
user.
All
the
time
they
walk
into
one
of
these
places..
Do
you
think
they're
not
gonna
want
to
smoke
flower
just
because
they
can't
use
their
vape
pen
and
like.,
and
if
so,,
do
you
really
see
that
as
a
major
challenge
to
the
effective
management,
or
like.
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
business
of
the
clab,
stacy
green:
hospitality
places,,
because
I
kind
of
see
people
who
use
vape
heads,
and
from
at
least
my
professional
experience
and
and
personal
experience
talking
a
lot
of
people.
the
reality
is,
most
people
like
them,,
because
they
don't
have
an
odor.
So
like
your
example
of
in
the
fox
theater.,
you
know
the
reason
they
probably
are:
overlooked.,
it's
just
more
subtle..
It's
not
like.
When
people
smoke,
you
know,
smoke
a
joint
where
it's
like
this
giant
cloud
of
smoke..
You
can't
miss
it.,
so.
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
stink
up
the
entire
place
where
they
are,
they
could
do
it
without
having
to
smell
like
it.,
maybe
when
they
go
back
to
whatever
they
were
doing.
So,
these
places
would
be
establishments
where
you
can
use
cannabis..
So
a
lot
of
those
issues
wouldn't
necessarily
be
there,,
and
I'd
like
to
think
that
some
of
these
vate
pen
users
might
walk
in
try
smoking
flower,.
If
that's
what
they're
doing
there,
anyway,
and
actually
revisit
the
idea
that
maybe
that's
an
acceptable
form
of
cannabis.
Usage.
L
L
L
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
the
the
reality
is
that
it
is
not
socially
acceptable.,
and
even
though
we
want
to
believe
that
it
is
here,,
it
is
still
not
socially
acceptable
to
blow
a
cloud
of
smoke
in
somebody's
face
inside
of
a
business..
It's
just
not..
It
is
absolutely
acceptable
in
this
community
right
now,
in
many,
many
settings.
I
I
Clab,
stacy
green:
standard
public
setting
right.
this
would
be
like,.
I
don't
know
if
you
ever
were
in
amsterdam
during
the
era
of
coffee
shops.,
but
that's
like
my
mind
heavily
when
I'm
picturing
these
things
right,
and
in
that
those
they
didn't
have
any
special
air
filtration..
Some
of
them
were
kind
of
smoky,,
but.
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:,
but
you
know
this
was
in
the
era
before
all
of
those
things
came
onto
the
market,.
So
I'd
like
to
think
that
people
would
walk
into
these
places.,
I
I
have
to
imagine..
At
least
this
is
I'm.,
not
an
industry
person,.
So
maybe
my
opinion
is
not
as
valid
on
this,,
but
I
would
imagine
most
people
would
be
happy
to
go
smoke
a
joint
in
one
of
these
hospitality
places,,
even
if
they're
a
regular,
vate
pen,
user.
L
I
I
I
I
I
J
J
J
J
B
B
I
I
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
before
you
had
compared,
you
know,
somebody
smoking
an
entire
bowl
to
using
these
bait
pads
and
maybe
taking
a
hit..
I
don't
think
that's
a
fair
comparison,,
so
I
think
we
would
have
to
do
one
hit
off
a
bowl
or
joint
to
one
hit
off
of
vape
pen..
Now
my
experience
professionally
is,
the
people
who
are
inclined
to
smoke
an
entire
bowl
are
the
same
people
who
are
inclined
to
suck
down
the
cartridges
and
those
vpn.
L
L
L
L
L
L
Clab,
evan,
anderson:
or
a
vehicle
is
rather
than
saying,
yeah,.
If
you
smoke
the
whole
thing,,
it's
more..
I
think
that
it's..
I
think
that
with
there,
okay,,
so
there's
a
reason
why
we
have
equivalencies.
there's
a
reason
why
you
have
only
a
limitation
of
2
grams
and
a
half
a
gram
of
concentrate
just
for
simple
math
for
everybody
to
here..
Right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
strains
that
are
30.
you're
allowed
to
buy
2
grams
of
flour..
I
I
L
Clab,
stacy
green:,
literally
like
per
dose
like
if
I
had
a
patient
in
front
of
me,
doing
a
study.
and
I
wanted
to
compare,
you
know,
effects
of
a
concentrate
versus
the
of
the
flower
goes
for
dose..
It
doesn't
matter
what
the
state
limited
and
how
they
got.
There
is
it's
like
literally
like
how
much
does
their
blood
level
go
up.
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
it
it's
it.,
it
gets
really
confusing,.
I
think,
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
as
far
as
the
purchase
allowances.,
but
I
don't
really
think
that
pertains
to
this
particular
discussion..
I
mean,,
maybe
it'd,
be
useful
to
have
someone
like
cinnamon.
come
back
and
talk
to
us
about
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
educate
some
more..
But
I
I
think
that
we,
for
this
discussion
of
hospitality
establishments
need
to
be
consistent,
and
our.
I
I
I
I
I
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Clab,
evan
anderson:
michael,
my
vote.
That's
that's
my
position.
on
this.
You
obviously
disagree,
and
I
respect
your
opinion.
Enormously..
You
are
a
doctor..
I
recognize
that.,
but
I
also
know
that
this
is,
we
have
to
vote..
We
have
to
vote
to
support
the
industry.
If
I
would
like
to,-
and
I
think
that
this.
I
L
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
right,
and
it's
very
political,.
As
you
know,
the
idea
was
well,.
Let's
start
with
something
less
contentious,
less
political.
see
how
things
go,
and
we
can
always
make
changes
later..
I
don't
think
this
was..
At
least
this
is
my
understanding.
Wasn't
intended
as
a
like.,
we're
never
going
to
allow
this
or
that.
there'll
never
be
vate.
Pens.,
it's
going
to
be
a
dirty
facility..
I
think
there's
ways
that
we've
been
talking
about
subsequent
to
this.
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
motion,
5
about
in
your
air
quality,
what
would
be
required
with
venting,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
that
pertains
to
your
concerns
about
turning
it
into
a
grungy
place.
hopefully,.
Nothing
would
ever
be
like
amsterdam,
because,,
as
I'm
sure
anyone
who
was
there
can
att
there.
A
lot
of
other
caveats
to
that
city.
That.
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I
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I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:
trust
me,.
That's
the
the
delivery
method
inside
of
your
salary.
glands
is
just
as
fast
as
drinking..
It's
actually
faster.
If
you
dissolve
it
in
your
math
than
it
is
putting
it
into
your
belly..
So
I
I
just
don't
understand
where
the
logic
was
in
this
one..
Why
do
we
want
to
prohibit
gummies.?
Can
somebody
speak
to
that?.
B
B
I
L
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
significant
way,
until
after
they
potentially
have
left
the
establishment,
and
would
maybe
be
behind
the
wheel
of
a
car
walking
into
a
bar
and
then
mixing
alcohol
with
it..
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
as
far
as
sales
are
concerned,
from
dispensaries.
but
again,.
I
think
we
want
to
try
and
keep
these
separate,,
because
I.
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L
I
I
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E
L
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
I
think
now
I
know
you're
not
arguing.,
I'm
just
trying
to
explain
what
I
recall..
You
know
as
some
of
the
logic
behind,
at
least
some
of
our
voting
on
that
specific
motion..
But
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
and
maybe
we
do
need
another
motion
about
sibling.
well,
specifically,,
because
I
don't
remember.
L
B
B
Clab,
evan
anderson:
yeah,.
I
think
it's
independent.
yeah,.
I
think
it's
just
an
additional
category..
I
mean,
we're
talking
about
marijuana
edibles,
but
then
differentiating
beverages
and
edibles..
I
think
we
can
add
and
say
that
the
sublingual
is
is
the
fastest..
I
mean
the
dissolved
strips
or
tincture.
L
Clab,
stacy
green:
and
I
think
the
other
plus
side
to
that
is,
generally
speaking,
they're,
pretty
low
dose
thc
so
like,.
If
you
have
somebody
coming
from,
I
shouldn't
stereotype
but
kentucky
as
a
first
time
cannabis
user.
That
could
be
a
nice
option
for
a
low
dose
introductory
or
introduction..
So.
B
M
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):.
I
know
we
did
talk
about
some
lingu.
We
didn't
clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
pursue
a
motion
on
that,,
but
that
was
part
of
the
conversation,
and
the
beverages
piece,.
We
did
specifically
say,
with
the
the
definition
of
liquid,
edible
products..
We
use
that
definition
from
the
state,
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
say,.
We
we
were
okay
with
beverages,,
but
not
food
based
things
like
oils
and
peanut
butters
and
those
kinds
of
things..
I
know
we
made
a
distinction
about
those
2
things.
what?,
which
is
why,.
M
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
I
I
want
to
make
a
a
suggestion
that
clarifications.
I
think
we
should
consider
in
this
part,,
but
I
do
think
we
should
try
to
get
through
the
motions
that
are
already
here
before
we
start
talking
about
new
motions
that
we
want
to
make..
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
do
clarifications,,
but
I
think
it'd
be
really
great
if
we
could
get
through
what
this
document
has
before
we
start
adding.
M
M
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
that
necessarily.
that
conversation.
now,,
obviously
you
guys,
can.,
you
all
can
do
what
you
what
you
want
to
do.,
I'm
just
suggesting
that
maybe
we
get
through
the
17
motions
that
we
have
here.
make
sure
the
language
is
good
for
the
ones
that
we're
voted
on,
and
then
we
can
move
into
potentially
adding
more
to
it..
I
think
that
we
really
could
get
through
this
document,,
at
least
from
the
motions
perspective
today,,
and
that
would
be
awesome.
B
B
M
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
we
didn't
talk
about
transdermals..
We
didn't
talk
about
a
lot
of
the
audited
products
involved
in
inhalers
and
different
kinds
of
things..
I
I
think
that
yes,
there
are
nasal
sprays
that
are
are
are
are
being
that
are
part
of
audited
products.,
so
yes,,
there
are
other
product
categories
that
we
did
not
address.
B
F
B
M
I
B
M
F
M
M
M
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
wish
that
I
had
been
able
to
participate
in
that
vote..
I
think
we
are
doing
a
massive
disservice.
by
doing
this,.
I
think
that
we
are
defining
a
privileged
class
that
has
never
been
created.
Before..
We
are
refusing
service
to
people
that
we
have
already
voted.
Have
the
right
to
do.
This.
I
B
B
J
Clab,
robin
noble:
thank
you,
chair..
I
just
really.
I
appreciate
your
passion,
so
much,
evan..
I
know
how
you
feel
about
this..
I
feel
passionately
about
it
as
well..
If
we
could,
please
hold
the
conversation
to
the
way
that
the
record
is
reflected,
here,
and
then,.
If
you
have
another
motion
or
something
else,
to
bring
later,,
that
would
help.
B
clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):,
the
5
0
and
6
here..
We
just
said
that
we
would,
if
somebody
thought
there
was
a
missed
vote
or
something
like
that.,
then
we
would
either
ask
the
city
to
go
back
through
the
record
and
find
out
where
we
could
look
at
the
minutes.
we
didn't,
we?.
We
specifically
said
we
didn't
necessarily
want
the
city
staff
to
go
through
every
single
one,
unless
we
thought
there
was
an
error
from.
M
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I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:
branch?
clab,
evan
anderson:,
so
I
would
say,
if
8
am.
is
the
time
that
all
the
rest
of
the
marijuana
businesses
are
allowed
to
open..
Perhaps
that
would
be
the
if
there
was,,
if,
if
the
intent
was
that
it
be
aligned
with
other
marijuana,
businesses.
8
am.
is
the
right.
Time.,
not
10.,
am.
A
B
B
I
B
G
G
G
G
M
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
my
recollection
of
that,
was
also
that
it
was..
It
was
just
for
sales
when
people
were
discussing
it.-
and
I
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
remember
talking
about
this,,
but
I
feel
like
if
we
did
mention
consumption,,
something
would
have
been
said
along
the
lines
of
of,
you
know,
may,,
that's
gonna
be
very
difficult
for.
M
M
M
M
M
I
B
I
I
M
M
E
F
M
F
M
Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
yeah,,
so
I
mean
it.,
just
sat
on
here.
cloud-
recommends
waiting
to
license
hospital
establishments
until
roadside
tools..
I
just
I
was
moving
with
you..
You
all
had
asked
me
to
change
everything
to
marijuana,
hospitality,
and
sales
businesses,,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
should
do
that
for
these
2,,
because
the
the
language
was
different
than
the
other
ones,
and
I
just
want
to
be
consistent.
so.
M
I
I
I
I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
What
you
have
to
do,,
I
will
remind,
or
I'll.
Let
everybody
know.,
I
promise
it's..
It
is
3
times
the
amount
of
air
required
for
any
other
type
of
business.
That
is
not
an
embalming
facility
or
a
battery
manufacturing
plant..
The
standard
is
extremely
high,,
but
it
does
exist,,
and
I
gave
the
link.
I
I
I
I
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I
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J
J
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A
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M
B
G
B
B
B
I
I
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I
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B
B
B
A
C
C
B
C
B
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F
A
E
F
F
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B
G
E
B
B
C
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M
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M
M
M
I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:
they're,
the
worst
of
the
worst,,
but
I
think
they're
worth
considering..
I
think
the
city
council
is
not
going
to
have
a
choice
but
to
consider
them..
I
think
they
should
be
outright
banned..
I'd
be
happy
to
make
a
motion
to
say
single
use.
Disposable.
vaporizers
are
explicitly
forbidden.
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
but
clab,
evan
anderson:,
that's
a
clab,,
evan
anderson:.
I
would
not
make
friends
my
industry
by
doing
that..
They
are
the
highest
profitability
product
in
the
market,,
but
they
are
awful..
So
I'd
be
happy
to
exempt
them,
and
say
those
are
prohibited,
but
reusable
vape
devices.
I
B
I
I
I
I
B
I
M
M
I
I
I
I
J
J
J
J
J
J
B
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:
yes.
clab,,
evan,
anderson:
yeah.,
so
this
is,
think,
the
the
potential
for
this
situation..
We
exempted
it
from
the
city.,
but
the
the
other
form
of
hospitality
license
would
be
the
best
way
to
think
about
this..
It
was
a
mobile
hospitality
license
where
you
basically
would
corral
people
outside
and
allow
them
to
smoke
outside
of
a
bus
or
on
a
bus.
I
I
I
I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
the
alternative
to
that
would
be
a
place
like
the
rio,
where
they
could
put
a
place
on
the
roof,,
a
space
on
the
roof
for
outdoor
consumption,
and
wall
it
off
so
that
it
wouldn't
be
visible,
and
simultaneously.
The
smoke
would
not
be
directly
affecting
public
access
to
buildings.
I
I
I
C
B
B
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
F
I
M
B
M
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
get
into
clab,
evan
anderson:
that
clab,
evan
anderson:
as
much
as
it
is
an
important
consideration..
It
hasn't
made
much
traction
in
the
industry..
Yet
there's
a
couple
of
categories
of
audited
products..
They
require
special
testing..
They
require
a
special
delivery
mechanism.
Certifications.
I
I
I
I
B
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
I
don't.,
I
don't
know
how
we
would
wanna
classify
this..
We
because
we
specified
a
couple
of
different
categories
up
at
the
top.,
so
this
would
be
a
new
one..
Sublingles
would
kind
of,
in
my
mind,
be,,
in
addition
to
marijuana
edibles,,
in
addition
to
marijuana
topicals,
and
in
addition
to
marijuana,
beverages.
I
M
M
I
B
M
I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:
yeah,
that
that
table
basically
goes
through
all
the
usages
and
the
what
is
the
what
is
the
occupancy,
classification,
and
then
based
on
that
occupancy
classification?.
What
is
the
mandatory
outdoor
airflow.?
So
that's
the
critical.,
it's
the
second
column
in
the
the
second
really
third
column.
I
I
I
I
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
what
you
need
to
do,
and
what
we?
What
we
learned
when
we
were
first
building
the
original
gardens
in
boulder
was
that
you
need
to
have
makeup
air,
and
then
you
need
to
have
fresh
air,.
And
when
you
can
recirculate
that
makeup
there,,
you
can
temper
the
temperature
of
the
room,
and
you
can
filter
the
particulates
that
are
in
the
room.
I
I
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G
G
G
G
G
G
Clab,
alana
malone::
I
notice
that
there's,,
you
know,
a
just
a
a
gap
of
knowledge
and
language,,
and
our
awareness
and
understanding
around
concentrates,
and
so
definitely
wanted
to
advocate
for
some
concentrate.
Education.,
I
thought
maybe
april
would
be
a
good
time,
because
we'll
be
through
hospitality.,
but
I
also
thought
maybe
we
could.