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B
Thank
you
good
evening
and
welcome
everyone
to
tonight's
study
session
of
the
boulder
city
council.
I
am
council,
member
nicole
spear.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
joining
us
tonight.
Just
as
a
reminder,
mayor,
brockett
and
council
members,
yates
and
wallach
will
be
absent
tonight.
So
we've
got
a
little
bit
of
a
smaller
group,
but
we
do
have
a
packed
agenda
tonight
we
have
on
the
agenda
three
items.
Our
first
item
will
cover
the
hill
revitalization
working
group
update.
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B
Thank
you,
and
just
as
a
reminder
for
everyone
regarding
covid19
vaccinations
and
testing
for
information
and
provider
locations
for
free
covid19
testing
go
to
boco.org
covid
testing
and
we
do
have
a
boulder
site.
That's
doing
testing
at
the
stazio
ball
fields,
that's
seven
days
a
week
from
8
a.m,
to
6
p.m,
and
for
vaccine
information
and
provider
locations
you
can
go
to
boco.org,
covid
vaccine.
B
This
collaborative
statewide
initiative
is
made
possible
by
colorado
senate
bill
22180
in
partnership
with
the
colorado
energy
office
and
it's
designed
to
reduce
ground
level
ozone
by
increasing
use
of
public
transit.
So
please
make
sure
to
use
that
during
the
month
of
august,
so
that
you
can
save
money
on
gas
and
parking
avoid
the
frustration
of
driving
in
traffic
help
us
improve
air
quality
and
use
your
commute
to
catch
up
on
work,
listen
to
music
or
read
a
book
for
more
information.
You
can
visit
the
rtb
site
at
www.rtd.denver.com.
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C
Thank
you
so
much
nicole,
and
I
am
so
excited
to
join
you
today,
a
bit
in
a
different
role,
because
now
I'm
gonna
take
a
little
bit
off
the
manager's
hat
and
join
you
as
part
of
this
phenomenal
team.
We've
got
a
great
group
of
cross-departmental
staff
assembled
here,
but
you'll
notice
too.
That
we've
got
some
folks
from
our
great
partnership
and
cu,
and
I
see
megan
there
joining
us
from
barha
who's
also
been
a
phenomenal
partner
with
us
as
we
tackle
some
of
the
issues.
D
Great
and
emily,
if
you
want
to
launch
the
slideshow,
we
will
start
there
and
moving
straight
on
to
the
next
slide.
Thank
you,
everyone.
My
name
is
brenda
rittenhauer.
I
am
also
with
you
in
a
different
capacity
than
usual
today,
in
my
actual
role
as
the
neighborhood
engagement
and
services
manager
and
part
of
that
role
has
been
serving
as
staff
liaison
for
the
past
several
years
with
the
group
that
you'll
hear
recommendations
from
today.
D
That's
when
I
stepped
in
and
started
as
liaison,
we
broadened
our
outreach
to
really
include
many
of
the
city
departments
that
you
see
listed
on
this
slide,
who
were
not
regularly
part
of
of
that
table,
as
well
as
deepening
our
relationships
with
the
partners
that
you
see
here
so
just
to
go
very
briefly.
For
those
who
may
not
be
able
to
see
the
slide
at
the
city
of
boulder,
we
have
city
council,
liaison's
racial
friend
of
mark
wallach.
D
We
have
my
office,
the
boulder
police,
department's
planning
and
development
services,
particularly
their
code
compliance
office,
the
city
attorney's
office,
municipal
court
and
innovation
and
technology
at
cu.
We
are
really
pleased
to
work
with
local
government
and
community
relations
with
student
affairs,
student
conduct
and
the
restorative
justice
group.
There
we
have
wonderful
student
leaders
who
work
with
us
from
student
government.
We
have
off-campus
housing
and
neighborhood
relations
over
at
cu,
as
well
as
fraternity
and
sorority
life
and
the
cu
police
department,
as
nuria
mentioned.
D
Megan
is
here
from
the
boulder
area,
rental
housing
authority
who
are
really
invaluable
partners
in
this
conversation,
as
we
try
to
also
understand
the
property
manager
and
property
owner
perspective
in
everything
we
do.
We
also
have
the
university
home
neighborhood
association
around
whom
our
work
really
is.
Centered
and
amanda.
D
Nagle
has
recently
joined
us
from
unlocking
government,
which
I'll
speak
more
about
in
just
a
moment,
so
our
investment
in
time,
attention
and
resources
has
grown
exponentially
from
each
of
the
folks
that
you
see
listed
here
as
a
result
of
the
city
council's
knot
of
five
in
march
2021,
we
were
able
to
hire
amanda
nagle
of
unlocking
government
to
provide
some
more
proactive
facilitation
wrap
a
little
more
time
than
I
was
able
to
offer
the
group
and
really
create
some
momentum.
She
also
is
serving
as
project
manager
for
our
internal
work
group.
D
That's
working
on
these
issues.
Some
of
you
may
remember,
amanda,
as
my
predecessor
in
the
role
of
neighborhood
liaison
and
as
a
result,
her
knowledge
of
boulder
is
deep
and
her
relationship
building
skills
have
served
this
project
from
the
day
that
she
joined
us.
So
we
are
in
good
hands
with
her
and
we
are
thrilled
to
have
her
on
board
with
her
support.
Now
we
are
working
on
strengthening
our
relationships
with
inter-fraternal
counsel
on
the
hill
and
the
other
national
greek
organizations
that
are
separate
from
the
university
structure.
D
The
thing
that
I
always
return
to
when
I
talk
about
this
group
is
the
level
of
trust
and
collaboration
that
the
stakeholders
at
this
table
have
been
able
to
develop
with
each
other.
As
you
can
see
from
this
list,
there
are
a
lot
of
viewpoints
here
and
there
are
viewpoints
that
might
not
traditionally
be
able
to
easily
align
and
I'm
not
going
to
say
we
always
easily
align,
but
we
always
hold
each
other
in
the
utmost
respect.
D
We
always
look
for
the
positive
and
the
work
each
other
are
doing,
and
we
always
are
honest
with
each
other
about
the
gaps
that
we
see
and
the
needs
we're
each
experiencing
from
our
perspectives
and,
as
a
result,
we've
been
able
to
move
a
lot
forward
in
the
time
that
we've
been
gathering
in
this
way.
So
the
next
slide,
please
really.
The
work
of
the
group
has
been
to
identify
systemic
gaps
in
each
organization
and
across
the
organizations.
D
Their
work
touches
everything
you
see
on
this
page
and
we
are
grateful
for
their
perspective
at
every
step
of
the
way.
I
just
want
to
call
out
a
couple
highlights,
because
I
know
this
type
is
tiny,
tiny,
so,
just
in
case
you
can't
see
it
there.
D
C
Thanks
so
much
brenda
and
if
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
and
sort
of
we
really
wanted
to
highlight
here
was
that
we
wanted
to
pin
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
were
doing
in
the
hill
and
ground
it
in
data
right.
C
So
they
really
took
to
the
job
of
starting
to
embark
on
putting
together
a
data
set
that
hopefully,
at
the
end
of
this
journey,
that
we're
all
on
we'll
actually
better
able
to
tell
us
what
is
going
on.
We
already
have
some
insights
and
we're
going
to
share
that
with
you
today.
C
There
are
some
gaps
that
we
think
about
some
of
that
work,
we're
matching
properties
with
landlords
and
property
managers
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
define
where
we
need
to
do
more
interventions,
because
I'll
also
say
that,
as
we
talk
about
this
work
and
I'll
try
to
say
it
several
times,
megan
and
keep
me
honest-
is
that
the
great
the
vast
majority
of
our
landlords
and
our
property
managers
are
doing
phenomenal
work.
They
are
committed.
C
They
are
really
wanting
to
provide
quality
housing
to
our
tenants,
but
there
are
some
for
whom
we
really
need
to
think
about.
How
do
we
increase
avenues
for
success
and
how
do
we
hold
our
them
accountable,
as
we
continue
to
do
the
work
and
the
data
is
really
going
to
help
us
do
some
of
that
next
slide?
Please.
C
We
got
some
caveats
on
the
data
too,
and
I
want
us
to
make
sure
that,
as
we're
diving
deeper,
that
we've
learned
a
little
bit
about
that.
That
we'll
have,
I
think,
as
we
continue
to
work
on
the
data
that
we've
got.
Some
we've
got
some
caveat
as
we
as
we
move
forward.
We
have
911
calls
often
come
in,
but
we
may
not
be
able
to
match
those
to
particular
unit
numbers,
and
so
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
be
continuing
to
think
about
as
we
move
on
that
the.
C
How
do
we
address
across
the
city,
parcels
and
sort
of
match?
Those
are
sometimes
inconsistent
and
that
is
again
work
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
do,
and
I,
as
somebody
who's
done
this
work
again
in
other
cities.
I'll
say
that
matching
rental
license
and
capturing
who's,
the
owner,
who
can
we
hold
accountable
in
those
cases
where
we
do
want
to
add?
Accountability
can
be
difficult
where
people
have
llc's
as
property
management
companies
or
maybe
inconsistencies
in
those
names.
C
E
E
Let's
jump
to
that
next
slide,
and
so
then
the
next
question
we
kind
of
asked
ourselves
was
well.
How
are
those
issues
spread
out
geographically
and
by
sub-community
and
the
heat
map
over
on
the
right
here?
You
know
it
pretty
clearly
shows
a
hot
spot
that
we're
seeing
in
the
university
hill
area
and
then,
if
we
look
at
that
incident,
volume
broken
out
by
the
different
sub-communities.
E
We
basically
see
that
the
university
hill,
while
containing
only
about
five
percent
of
the
land
mass
of
all
the
sub-communities
in
the
city,
it
contained
about
a
third
of
the
total
incidence.
So
it's
kind
of
a
disproportionate
amount
of
incident
volume
that
we're
seeing
based
on
the
land
mass
and
then,
just
to
note
too,
you
know
we
are
seeing
a
couple.
Other
hot
spots
popping
up
as
well,
you
know
there's
some
stuff
going
on
in
central
boulder
and
some
stuff
going
on
in
south
boulder
as
well.
E
So
in
the
analysis,
we're
going
to
be
looking
city-wide
but
we'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit
on
the
hill
for
this
presentation.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
one
other
one
last
city-wide
question
that
we
wanted
to
ask
ourselves
to
was
you
know,
is
the
problem
few
or
is
it
many?
Is
this
something
where
everybody
kind
of
experiences
this
type
of
thing
and
has
these
nuisance
incidents?
E
So
when
we
looked
at
how
those
top
100
were
spread
out
by
sub-community,
also
again,
how
are
they
spaced
out
geographically
university
hill
pops
up
once
again
again,
they
had
about
a
third
of
these
total
properties,
and
then
one
of
the
biggest
takeaways
on
this
top
102
is
that,
while
that
top
100
properties
represents
only
about
two
percent
of
addresses
that
had
incidents
associated
with
them,
they
had
about
a
quarter
of
the
overall
incident
volume.
So
again,
thinking
about
that
proportionality
about
what
is
kind
of
the
normal
in
boulder.
E
So
then
kind
of
building
off
of
looking
at
the
geographic
areas
and
that
hot
spot
in
hill
we're
zooming
in
on
the
hill
here
now
so
in
this
we're
kind
of
asking
ourselves
do,
does
chronic
nuisance
in
the
hill,
look
the
same
as
the
as
it
does
in
the
rest
of
the
city,
and
this
graph
kind
of
shows
you
a
comparison
with
the
rest
of
the
city
on
the
left
and
the
hill
on
the
right,
and
the
thing
you
kind
of
want
to
zoom
in
on
this
one
is:
is
kind
of
the
shape
of
these
two
two
graphs.
E
But
one
thing
that
we'll
note
here
is
that
these
are
the
raw
incident
volumes
and
basically
the
hill
has
about
44
of
the
noise
issues.
City-Wide.
So
again,
think
back!
You
know
it's
about
five
percent
of
that
land
mass,
but
they're
they're
having
half
you
know
nearly
half
of
the
noise
issues
and
then
going
to
their
number
two:
that's
property
maintenance
issues.
They
actually
have
more
property
maintenance
issues
that
are
getting
reported
in
the
hill.
Then
there
are
getting
reported
city-wide.
E
So
then,
another
thing
we
kind
of
asked
ourselves
is:
when
are
these
issues
occurring?
When
are
people
feeling
compelled
to
call
issues
in
so
what
you're
seeing
here
is
a
heat
map?
That's
showing
us
the
fraction
of
the
incidents
that
are
occurring
in
the
hill
and
then
the
fraction
of
the
incidents
that
are
occurring
in
the
rest
of
the
city
by
day
of
week
and
then
by
the
hour
of
the
day,
and
what
we
kind
of
see
here
is
that
in
the
rest
of
the
city,
you've
got.
E
You
know
a
little
bit
of
a
hot
spot
going
on
on
your
weekend.
Evenings
you've
got
you
know
a
little
bit
blurry
or
a
hot
spot
in
the
midday
midweek
kind
of
thing.
But
then,
when
we
come
over
to
the
hill,
we
we
see
these
much
more
pronounced
hot
spots.
You'll
see,
definitely
more
things
going
on
more
proportion
of
incidents
occurring
on
the
weekend
evenings
in
the
hill.
We're
seeing
that
evening,
hot
spot
extended
some
days
throughout
the
week
as
well,
and
then
we're
seeing
you
know
some
some
more
splotchy
stuff
going
on
midday
midweek.
E
You've
again
got
much
more
pronounced
hot
spot
going
on
on
the
weekend
evenings,
that's
extending
much
further
into
the
weekday
evenings
and
then
one
other
thing.
That's
kind
of
interesting
that
we're
seeing
here
is
that
you're,
seeing
that
kind
of
orangey
red
extend
down
into
saturday
during
the
daytime
and
even
a
little
bit
on
friday
as
well,
and
that's
just
not
really
present
as
much
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
E
So
in
this
we
ask
ourselves
once
again
so
in
that
top
100
for
for
the
city-wide
we
said.
Is
this
a
problem?
That's
few
or
many,
and
now
we're
asking
that
same
question,
but
just
for
the
hill-
and
you
know
we
kind
of
on
the
right
here-
you're
kind
of
seeing
the
like
fraction
of
addresses
on
the
hill
and
then
the
fraction
of
incidents
that
are
associated
with
them,
and
you
know
kind
of
by
the
origin
there,
where
you're,
zero
zero
and
it
kind
of
jumps
up
really
steeply.
E
Specifically,
you
end
up
having
about
three
percent
of
those
addresses
that
are
on
the
hill
that
are
having
an
incident
once
or
more
and
they're
having
19
of
those
total
incidents,
so
they're
kind
of
really
in
that
steepest
part
of
that
curve
there
and
again
they're
having
incidents
at
a
rate
that
are
just
disproportionate
to
the
rest
of
the
rest
of
the
places
on
the
hill
and
with
that
that
gives
us
a
little
glimpse
into
where
we're
at,
but
I'm
going
to
hand
it
back
to
nuria
now
and
she's
going
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
where
we're
headed
next
and
we
can
probably
flip
the
slide
too.
C
But
I
hope
that
you
see
that
what
we're
really
trying
to
zero
in
is
how
to
focus
the
strategies
that
we
have
in
mind
and
how
to
really
think
about
what
are
those
interventions
that
will
lend
to
the
greatest
good
for
all
of
us
in
the
community
as
we're
looking
at
it
and
really
focusing
on
perhaps
that
80
20
principle
that
maris
talks
about
in
other
areas,
those
landlords
and
property
managers
that
perhaps
need
more
assistance
and
more
support
and
more
education
and
where
that's
not
working,
perhaps
other
interventions
as
we
move
forward
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
compliance
and
before
we
dive
more
into
what
the
city
has
been
doing.
C
This
would
be
a
really
great
point
to
invite
our
partners
at
cu.
Who've
also
been
working
on
this,
particularly
on
what
issues
they
see
and
how
that
relates
to
the
student
body
and
so
I'll.
Ask
lori,
call
our
assistant,
cus
assistant,
vice
chancellor,
for
local
government
and
community
relations
to
introduce
herself
and
get
that
portion
started.
F
Thanks
so
much
nuria
and
good
evening,
members
of
city,
council
and
staff,
we're
so
glad
to
be
here
this
evening,
I'm
here
with
my
colleague,
devon
cramer,
who's
serving
as
the
dean
of
students
and
and
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
cu
and
our
approach
as
well.
Tony
thanks.
So
much
for
this
really
informative
data.
It's
going
to
be
incredibly
helpful
as
we
think
about
how
we
can
more
surgically
approach
our
outreach
and
engagement
with
with
students,
especially
especially
as
it
relates
to
the
hill.
F
We
have
been
very
active
in
the
hill,
revitalization
working
group
for
years
now
and
both
devin
and
I
are
our
participants
and-
and
you
know
I
just
want
to
lean
into
the
comments
that
have
been
said
about
our
gratitude
for
the
partnership
with
the
city.
I
think
it's
incredibly
strong.
I
think
the
the
trust
has
been
high.
I
think
we're
seeing
solutions
and
opportunities,
and
you
know
we
we
are
just
so
grateful.
F
You
know
from
every
end
whether
it's
off-campus
housing,
the
the
cupd
and
bpd
work
very
very
closely
together,
and
we
have
had
really
thoughtful
student
engagement
as
well.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
to
devin,
and
he
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
and
then
certainly
using
the
information
that
tony
shared
this
evening.
How
that
might
even
form
next
steps
as
well
devin.
G
Thank
you,
lori
and,
and
thanks
everyone
for
letting
me
be
here
and
and
talk
about
our
partnerships
tonight
I
wanna
I
put
several
things
on
this
slide,
that
kind
of
show
the
approach
that
we've
taken
to
try
and
address
some
of
the
behavioral
issues
on
the
hill.
I
want
to
highlight
just
a
few
of
those
first
and
foremost,
one
one
process
that
we've
really
focused
on
is
updating
how
we
hold
students
accountable
and,
and
with
that
I
mean,
we've
really
pushed
to
a
more
balanced
approach
of
both
education
and
accountability.
G
So
when
it
comes
to
these
nuisance
behaviors,
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
that
weigh
into
how
our
student
conduct
and
conflict
resolution
team
will
adjudicate
those
cases,
but
we've
really
looked
at
the
effectiveness
of
students
and
their
their
standing
and
the
institution
and
and
whether
they
lose
that
standing
within
the
institution
for
certain
violations
and
balancing
that
with
our
our
education
and
our
restorative
justice
practices.
G
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
very
proud
to
report
is
that
when
we
look
at
our
recidivism
rates
over
the
past
three
years,
it's
been
zero
percent,
two
point
five
percent
and
then
zero
percent,
and
in
that
year
that
was
two
point:
five
percent.
It
was
three
students,
so
when
we
get
when
when
boulder
police
is
able
to
make
a
contact
with
that
student
file
report
with
our
office,
we
see
a
huge
amount
of
of
change
within
that
student's
behavior.
G
G
And
I
I
think
that
what
we
see
and
what
I've
observed
is
there
are
certain
houses
on
the
hill
that
get
passed
down
year
to
year
from
friend,
groups
that
continue
to
create
problems
and
and
the
data
that
was
presented
today,
makes
it
promising
that
we'll
be
able
to
better
identify
some
of
those
properties
and
make
really
effective
to
laurie's
point
surgical
interventions
on
those
properties
that
are
the
most
effective.
So
seeing
that
I
look,
I
look.
G
G
Turning
up
so
that's
going
to
be
a
large
focus
for
us
moving
forward
and,
lastly,
I
want
to
say
that
our
focus
with
the
unaffiliated
ifc
on
the
hill
I've
made
it
a
a
goal
of
mine
to
build
a
positive
relationship
with
with
that
group
of
of
of
folks
and
while
they
are
unaffiliated,
that
relationship
will
help
me
in
the
future
create
some
behavior
change.
F
And
I'll
just
briefly
add
that
another
dimension
that
may
come
up
a
little
bit
later
is
the
the
deeper
integration
with
both
data.
You
know
kind
of
across
the
board,
including
the
police
departments,
and
so
I
think
that
will
really
allow
us
to
get
more
information.
F
You
know
in
as
close
to
real
time
as
possible
so
that
we
can
have
faster
follow-up
and
and
more
delay.
C
Thanks
so
much
lori
and
I
think
you've
you've
seen
this
as
we
go
to
the
next
slide.
You've
seen
this.
This
theme
about
data,
certainly
and
wanna
just
quickly
go
over
some
of
our
sort
of
next
step
projects
and
a
little
timeline.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're.
We
don't
want
to
rush
the
conversation,
but
we
want
to
make
sure,
because
we
know
you
have
a
rich
full
meeting
today,
that
we
get
to
questions
or
thoughts
that
you
may
have.
C
Lori
just
alluded
to
the
cupd
and
vpd
partnership
in
data,
and
how
do
we
continue
to
in
real
time
share
some
of
the
information
that
we're
getting
from
calls
to
traffic
accidents
to
other
citation
data,
and
we
now
have
a
shared
business
intelligence,
analyst
position
that
was
created
and
recently
hired.
That's
within
the
city's
I.t
department,
with
cost
split
between
the
two
entities,
the
city
and
cu,
and
we
thank
cu
for
that
partnership.
C
C
That's
going
to
be
tend
to
scheduled,
it's
tentatively
slated,
for,
I
believe
it's
august,
31st
and
council
certainly
is
welcome
to
join
that
walk
as
well
and
we'll
make
sure
to
define
that
time
and
send
you
invites
as
we
move
forward
on
that
we
are
looking
and
city
staff,
and
I
think
the
entire
working
group
are
invested
in
ensuring
landlords
and
property
managers
are
truly
set
up
for
success
and
are
instrumental
in
achieving
achieving
those
right
outcomes
for
their
renters
and
the
entire
university
hill
community.
C
We
have
partnered
with
barha
and
again
I
just
can't
speak
highly
enough
of
barha
as
a
partner
in
this
to
research,
some
best
practices
and
landlord
education
programs.
That
first
meeting
planning
session
has
taken
place.
There's
a
second
one
being
planned,
and
I
know
barha
is
quick
at
work
and
trying
to
create
a
curriculum
by
the
end
of
this
year.
That
will
be
made
accessible
to
all
landlords
in
early
2023,
and
I
know
that
megan
is
available.
C
If
you
have
more
questions
on
that
front,
as
we
end
the
presentation
we
know,
education
is
a
major
component
of
success
to
this
work,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
people
know
who
to
call
when
you
have
concerns
materials
such
as
brochures
and
posters
are
being
created
to
simplify
that
process
on
how
you
can
get
assistance
and
how
to
get
the
help
that
you
need
we're
hoping
to
have
those
finished
so
that
neighborhood
events
hosted
by
cu.
C
We
know
too
right
that
there
is
a
burden
of
complaint
based
systems
on
residents
and
we
are
looking
for
ways
to
couple
that
with
more
proactive
enforcement
and
to
that
end,
I'll
say
that
we've
got
bpd
and
cu
is
joining
to
sort
of
do
a
more
pro
and
proactive
enforcement
pilot.
C
So
that's
future
work
that
we
want
to
talk
to
the
whole
working
group
about
and
continue
to,
noodle
on,
as
we
get
better
data
and
then
finally,
we're
continuing
to
look
and
maybe
work
with
see
you
as
a
partner
to
explore
the
interest
and
the
capacity
to
create
sort
of
neighborhood
cleanup
initiatives
at
the
least
we're
thinking
about
providing
incentives
to
landlords
who
want
to
make
improvements
to
their
own
property.
C
I'll
share
that
in
my
in
one
of
my
previous
cities,
we
created
something
called
the
altogether
now
program
where,
before
we
did,
plan
sweeps
every
fall
and
then
spring
we
partnered
with
local
businesses
to
provide
discounts
for
cleanup
materials
and
we
were
able
to
reduce
citation
during
those
periods
of
notification
by
41
and
help
some
local
businesses
along
the
way.
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
exact
program
as
we
think
about
here,
but
there
are
initiatives
that
we
want
to
think
about
that
really
incentivize.
C
We
have,
as
you'll,
see
in
the
memo
we
had
talked
about
some
medium
term
projects
and
again
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
or
I'll
glance
over
the
timeline
as
we
move
forward.
C
Some
of
these,
as
we
continue
to
build
capacity
in
our
departments,
we're
also
sort
of
identifying
some
possible
ordinance
changes
that
could
be
part
of
a
more
comprehensive
strategy
that
will
help
us
collectively
meet
our
code
compliance
goals,
one
of
those
that
perhaps
will
coming
and
as
we
get
these
and
if
we're
able
to
bring
those
sooner,
then
we
certainly
will-
and
one
of
those
is
perhaps
looking
on
some
successes-
that
the
city
has
seen
in
other
areas
in
2013
the
trash.
C
The
bear
ordinance
that
requires
property
owners
to
have
and
use
bear
resistant
trash
containers
was
really
super.
Successful.
No
warnings
were
given
if
the
violations
were
found.
Enforcement
staff
were
able
to
notify
owners
that
a
civil
penalty
was
being
assessed
and
looking
to
think
about.
Are
there
ways,
particularly
with
weeds
and
trash.
Then
we
can
do
something
similar,
that
we
can
use
the
civil
penalty
route,
to
streamline
enforcement
to
quicken
enforcement
and
and
see
if
we
can
get
better
responses.
C
That
way,
we're
also
looking
at
chronic
nuisance
abatement
and
evaluating
whether
there
can
be
changes
to
that
nuisance
abatement
is
generally
a
civil
legal
process
that
ensures
individual
conduct
on
private
property
or
the
physical
condition
of
that
property
is
not
a
nuisance
to
others
where
that
continues
to
happen,
and
the
data
is
showing
us
that
we
continue
to
have
recurring
code
violations
or
nuisances
on
particular
parcels
of
land.
What
other
tools
can
we
use
to
really
quickly
address
that
I'd
hate
to
think
of
areas
like
revocation
of
of
licenses?
C
So
certainly
that
is
a
tool
at
the
extreme.
We
hope
that
is
a
tool
of
last
resort,
but
there
perhaps
are
other
ways
in
which
we
can
escalate
from
warnings
to
more
active
strategies
to
make
sure
that
we
are
helping
folks
get
into
compliance
before
we
really
have
to
think
about.
Revocation
I
come
from
a
city
where
we
tiered
properties,
and
we
thought
and
really
it's
a
it's
a
way
to
prioritize
properties.
C
An
idea
that
perhaps
has
occurred
is
amending
the
code
to
add
compliance
with
the
entire
code
as
a
requirement
for
a
rental
license,
so
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
just
saying
well,
you
can
you
have
to
comply
with
the
property
maintenance
code,
but
rather
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
are
compliant
with
everything
that
the
city
is
asking
you
to
do.
Other
ideas
include
currently
reducing
rental
license
terms.
C
And
while
we've
categorized
this
as
longer
term,
I'll
say
that
this
is
this
is
work
that
really
continues
to
be
ongoing.
So
right
now
in
the
city
we've
got
bpd
and
and
pnds
have
differing
roles
when
it
comes
to
insurance.
Compliance
with
the
various
city
codes
they're
generally
made
two
main
models
nationally
when
it
comes
to
nuisance
abatement.
C
On
public
sidewalks
separate
from
this
team,
we
have
officers
who
also
handle
noise
and
loud
party
complaints
and
open
container
and
alcohol-related
offenses
among
the
other
things
that
they
may
be
called
through
9-1-1
to
do,
and
then
we've
got
code,
compliance
and
pnds.
It
really
focuses
on
critical
building
and
zoning
code
violations,
as
well
as
rental
license
violations.
C
So
we're
looking
to
see
what
does
that
look
like
both
of
those
need
have
a
have?
A
space
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
aligning
that
work
within
the
different
departments,
so
how
those
currently
operate
requires
some
deeper
analysis.
And
frankly,
we
were
hoping
to
wait
till
our
new
pnds
director
was
on
board.
So
brad
has
been
tagged
now
that
he
has
joined
us
and
he
and
maris,
as
well
as
our
partners
in
the
city.
Attorney's
office
are
really
looking
at.
C
Who
is
addressing
what
and
who
is
best
able
to
address
particular
nuisances
when
they're
occurring
some
occur
late
at
night.
Some
can
be
dealt
with
in
the
early
times,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
hoping
to
get
their
recommendations
as
we
look
forward
on
the
types
of
skill
sets
and
need
for
what
I
would
believe
is
additional
resources
in
the
future.
To
think
about,
as
we
do
that.
C
Some
of
that
alignment
work
as
we
go
forward,
we're
hoping
that
as
we
look
at
that
and
again
we're
really
focusing
on
those
properties
that
really
require
this
more
focused
effort
that
by
using
that
and
the
data,
we'll
we'll
figure
out
really
how
to
come
up
with
additional
recommendations
to
augment
our
current
complaint
based
system
to
provide
more
proactive,
systemic
approach
and
and
that
data
will
really
help
us
think
about
in
the
future
sort
of
how
do
we
really
get
to
faster
actions
to
really
have
an
enhanced
quality
of
life
compliance
work,
and
we
will
certainly
be
coming
to
council
for
a
more
precise
request
and
or
a
budget
adjustment
in
the
future.
C
As
that
work
takes
hold
next
slide
and
I'm
getting
to
the
end.
I
promise
just
quick
slides
on
what
some
of
the
timeline
looks
like
you
know
that
some
of
these
things
are
coming
to
you
in
the
near
future.
C
The
next
slide,
please
emily,
thank
you
and
some
of
our
medium
and
long-term
projects
where
we
think
that
we'll
be
coming
back
to
council.
We
mentioned
sort
of
thinking
about
that
weeds
and
trash,
and
whether
or
not
we
can
model
the
bear
can
ordinance
after
that
we'd
like
to
bring
that
forward.
If
council
is
amenable
to
that
soon,
in
november
december,
time
frame
we're
looking
and
thinking
about
those
rental
license
enhancements
and
are
there
things
now
that
we
can
do
to
as
we
continue
to
pinpoint
those
properties
that
need
that
scalpel-like
look.
C
Are
there
areas
that
we
can
really
look
at
that,
and
so,
as
we
as
we
see
those
and
see
those
intervention
opportunities,
we
hope
to
come
to
council.
With
that
and
the
same
thing,
I
would
say,
of
the
chronic
nuisance
abatement,
so
stay
tuned
for
more
on
that.
But
we're
really
waiting
on
some
of
that
data.
C
To
give
us
better
analysis
and
I'll
say
that,
as
somebody
who
has
been
through
legal
challenges
on
the
topic,
the
data
really
will
help
us,
as
we
move
forward,
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
a
bringing
cookie
cutter
solutions
to
boulder
and
making
sure
that
we're
tailoring
it
to
what
we
need,
but
also
in
the
event
that
we
need
to
take
more
serious
regulatory
action
that
we
will
prevail
if
we
have
challenges
in
that
direction.
Next
slide.
C
And
then,
finally,
as
we
say,
we've
got
some
continued
enhancements
that
perhaps
will
come
to
council
by
way
of
update
versus
need
to
approve
or
tweak
an
ordinance
as
they
are
more
operational
in
nature.
C
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
about
what
that
looks
like-
and
some
of
that
includes
those
building
out
continued
education
programs
really
looking
at
the
regulatory
framework
when
it
comes
to
over
occupancy
and
I'll
say
that
is
a
study
session
that
will
come
to
council
later
this
year.
That
is
in
response
to
a
council
priority
item.
C
We're
going
to
continue
to
see
what
does
it
mean
to
enhance
sort
of
the
built
environment
with
lighting
and
work
with
our
transportation
and
mobility
staff?
On
that
and
then
thinking
about?
How
do
we
better
inform
both
community
of
what's
happening
and
notify
landlords,
because
they
cannot
fix
and
address
what
they
do
not
know,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
them
with
the
tools
that
they
need
to
address
some
of
the
problems,
problems
that
may
be
happening
on
their
properties
and
then
next
slide.
C
I
want
to
say
that
I
know
that
we
are
we're
ending
this
presentation
portion
with
what
we're
doing
in
the
hill,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
steve
to
come
forward
because
we
cannot
have
a
conversation
about
the
hill
without
talking
a
little
bit
about
what
happened
recently
on
july
4th
and
some
of
the
calls
and
and
some
of
the
work
that
bpd
was
doing
there.
And
so
we
want
to
acknowledge
that
as
part
of
this
presentation
as
well
so
steve
ramirez.
C
If
you
want
to
hop
on
and
introduce
yourselves
these
last
two
slides
are
yours.
H
All
right
good
evening,
council
and
mayor
pro
tem,
steve
redford,
deputy
police
chief
here
at
boulder
pd,
and
I'm
not
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time,
but
we
have
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
events
of
specifically
the
evening
of
fourth
of
july,
and
we've
had
some
quite
a
few
conversations
with
community
members
that
had
some
concerns
over
all
of
the
goings
on
that
night,
and
so
I
think,
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
start
there.
H
So
this
is
a
highlight
or
potentially
low
light
if
you
will
on
some
of
the
incidents
that
occurred
from
about
11
a.m.
Until
two
in
the
morning
so
july,
4th
into
july
5th,
three
of
the
calls
you'll
see
are
highlighted
in
red
I'll
get
into
those
in
just
a
minute.
But
I
want
to
stress
a
couple
things
for
us.
Fourth
of
july
was
on
a
monday
this
year,
so
friday,
saturday
and
sunday,
where
we
anticipated.
We
might
have
more
issues.
H
It
was
actually
barely
not
eventful
throughout
the
city
monday
4th
of
july
rolled
around,
and
we
began
to
see
more
issues.
So
I'll
point
out
a
couple
things:
we
had
sufficient
staffing
for
both
day
shift
evening
shift
and
our
overnight
shift.
We
were
fully
staffed
and
even
had
overtime
officers
out
assigned
to
handle
fireworks
calls
from
11
00
a.m
to
2
a.m.
We
had
223
calls
for
service
into
our
dispatch
center,
specifically
just
for
police
service,
and
that's
a
wide
range
of
calls
that
came
in
during
that
time
frame.
H
So
around
five
o'clock
things
started
to
really
pick
up
in
the
city.
We
had
a
weapons
call
where
a
gun
was
reported.
It
took
about
six
offers
officers
to
investigate
that
and
then
the
next,
the
main
instant
concern
in
the
middle.
There
is
a
burglary
and
what
happened
was
on
the
hill.
We
had
a
party
with
an
estimated
150
or
so
people.
We
learned
that
some
some
folks
had
come
to
the
party
from
outside
of
boulder
and
some
disturbances
started.
H
We
had,
unfortunately,
people
starting
some
bushes
on
fire,
some
reports
of
people
jumping
on
cars
and
things
like
that,
so
that
required
around
five
officers.
Initially,
we
did
write
a
couple
tickets
on
that
and
arrested
one
person,
while
that
was
going
on.
H
We
got
reports
in
that
same
block
that
some
people
had
broken
into
a
home,
so
we
then
investigated
that
burglary
call
as
well,
which
took
some
resources
shortly
thereafter,
within
about
an
hour
and
a
half,
our
officers
were
alerted
to
a
call
also
on
the
hill
of
a
weapons
defense
where
a
male
was
seen
running
around
with
an
assault
rifle.
H
Obviously
that
was
of
great
concern,
and
at
that
point
we
mobilized
our
swat
team
to
come
in
and
assist
not
only
with
manpower,
but
because
at
that
point,
that's
about
as
critical
of
an
incident
that
we
could
have
had
of
reports
of
someone
in
a
highly
populated
area
with
a
long
gun,
so
that
took
a
significant
amount
of
resources
there
as
well.
The
night
continued
and
there
were
a
couple
other
that's
started
at
north
boulder
park
with
a
fire.
H
H
Our
officers
were
able
to
identify
a
juvenile
that
was
setting
off
fireworks
and
when
they
went
to
write
that
juvenile
ticket
they
were
quickly
surrounded
by
that
crowd
of
estimated
to
be
about
200
people,
so
they
were,
they
had
to
quickly
get
that
juvenile
out
of
that
area
and
and
to
make
kind
of
a
tactical
retreat
at
that
point,
because
many
of
the
other
officers
were
tied
up
on
the
weapons
offense
up
on
the
hill.
So
luckily
around
two
in
the
morning
we
had
a
couple
other
things
go
on,
but
it
quieted
down.
H
So
it
was
an
extremely
busy
night.
Many
of
us
were
called
in
from
home
to
assist
on
this
night
and
and
really
it
points
to
the
the
skilled,
the
skilled
officers
that
were,
there
was
not
any
major
damage.
Thankfully
no
one
was
was
seriously
hurt
or
injured,
and
I
do
have
to
give
a
shout
out
to
our
partners
at
cu
as
well.
H
We
did
call
out
for
mutual
aid
from
other
agencies
to
help
with
these
things,
but
we're
told
that
most
other
agencies,
including
the
sheriff's
office,
were
too
busy
with
their
own
incidents
to
come,
give
us
a
hand,
so
our
officers
did
a
phenomenal
job
that
night
and
while
we
understand
some
of
the
frustrations,
I
just
we
just
wanted
to
give
some
context
of
what
we
were
dealing
with
that
night.
So,
city
manager,
that's
that's
kind
of
the
overview
of
fourth
of
july.
C
Thanks
so
much
steve,
and
if
we
can
take
the
presentation
down
we'll.
Thank
you
because
I
know
we
have
gone
way
too
long,
and
I
apologize
nicole
that
we
have.
We
had
so
much
information
and
we
wanted
to
present
you
an
update
but
know
that
we
are
here
for
questions
either
now
or
if
anybody
wanted
to
reach
out
to
us.
C
This
work
is
ongoing,
as
you
can
see,
and
we
are
happy
to
continue
to
take
your
thoughts
as
we
come
forward
and
we're
also
committed
to
not
letting
perfection
be
the
enemy
of
good
and,
as
we
have
things
for
council
to
act
on,
we
will
certainly
be
bringing
those
forward.
B
Well,
thank
you
so
much
nurian.
Thank
you
to
all
the
staff
and
see
you
folks
who
presented
this.
I
think
you
know
this
was
very
much
meant
to
be
an
informational
presentation,
so
you
know,
I
think
you
hit
us
with
a
lot
of
information.
B
I
think
you
know,
since
we're
already
kind
of
at
the
time
that
that
we
had
set
aside
for
this,
I
I
would
still
like
to
give
us
a
few
minutes
just
for
comments
and
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
just
remind
everyone
that
this
is
really
meant
to
be
more
of
an
update
on
where
we're
at
so
I
think
that
the
degree
to
which
we
can
focus
on
clarifying
questions
as
well
as
comments
for
the
working
group
and
staff
to
consider
as
they
bring
some
of
these
initiatives
back
to
us
in
the
coming
months.
B
I
think
that'll
help
us
kind
of
stay
on
track
and
still
have
some
time
for
some
of
the
other
issues
tonight,
where
we
we
are,
you
know
intending
to
give
some
feedback,
so
I
I
think
you
know
the
question
to
consider
is
what
questions
do
you
have
at
this
stage
and
what
overarching
issues
are
there
that
you'd,
like
the
working
group
staff
and
or
cu
to
consider
to
bring
back
to
us
with
more
information
as
some
of
these
initiatives
advance,
so
we
will
have
an
opportunity
to
talk
more
about
them
as
they
come
through.
B
I
And
then
thanks
for
the
presentation,
I'll
try
and
go
quickly.
First
for
nuria
when
you
say
that
things
are
going
to
be
coming
to
council
in
like
quarter
4
of
2022
and
then
april
may
of
2023.
Do
you
mean
for
us
to
vote
on
ordinances.
I
Okay,
that
come
to
us
means
ordinances
that
we
will
be
voting
on,
not
updates
or
study
sessions.
Okay,
great,
I
I
did
want
to
say
for
I've
been
on.
I
am
part
of
this
working
group
and
I
imagine
that
this
presentation
has
been
a
little
bit
both
frustrating
and
validating
for
people
that
come
to
those
sessions.
I
You
know
stats
like
five
percent
of
the
state
city,
mass
and
fifty
percent
of
the
noise
complaints
and
twenty
percent
of
properties
leading
to
sixty
percent
of
the
incidence.
That
is
precisely
in
line
with
what
we've
been
hearing
for
years
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
move
fairly
expeditiously
and
on
the
the
timeline
that
you
are
talking
about
nerius.
I
appreciate
that.
I
I
don't
know.
I
If
I
saw
a
update
on
fireworks,
is
there
do
we
have
information
on
on
what
we
might
be
doing,
because
I
know
that's
a
large
complaint
and
I
I'm
personally
getting
to
the
point
of
like
fireworks,
seems,
like
you
know,
almost
attempted
arson
in
2022
in
boulder.
So
what?
What
are
we
doing
to
tamp
down
there
I'll.
C
Perhaps
ask
amanda
or
brenda
to
share
because
we
do
have
a
smaller
group.
That's
been
formed
to
talk
about
that
specifically.
K
Sure
I'm
happy
to
we
do
have
a
fireworks
subcommittee
from
the
hill
revitalization
working
group.
Most
recently.
Last
month
we
met
with
carl
castillo
to
identify,
if
there's
anything,
additional,
that
we
can
do
from
a
state
perspective.
If
there
are
loopholes
there,
it
does
seem
that
one
of
the
loopholes
that
has
been
identified
as
a
fear
by
the
community
that
was
that
a
person
with
an
out-of-state
driver's
license
could
in
fact
legally
have
fireworks
in
the
community.
K
We
have
explored
that
carl
has
talked
with
the
state
and
it
does
seem
like
there
was
legislation
recently
passed
to
fill
that
loophole
so
that
in
order
to
buy
fireworks
with
an
out-of-state
license,
you
do
have
to
have
proof
of
an
export
plan
which
would
mean
that
you're
buying
in
order
to
transport
somewhere
else
where
fireworks
are
legal.
K
Then
it
would
just
move
and
they
would
still
come
right
back
into
the
community.
So
it
is
that
regional
approach,
that's
being
looked
at
now
by
the
group
and
being
explored,
and
I
find
a
complete
ban
on
fireworks
was
mentioned
by
that
group.
It
sounds
like
to
me
currently
anything
that
goes
off.
The
ground
is
already
illegal
in
boulder,
but
it
could
be
that
you
know
things
like
sparklers
and
the
smaller
things
that
are
still
sold
locally
and
brought
in
could
be
potentially
banned
in
the
future.
K
K
Absolutely
and
dave
lowery's
joined
the
group
and
is
doing
more
work
with
them
to
explore.
What
we
can
do
additionally
for
education
cu
is
a
fantastic
partner,
educating.
They
did
door
hangers
on
every
house
on
the
hill
leading
up
to
the
end
of
school
and
the
fourth
of
july
it.
It
doesn't
necessarily
appear
that
this
is
something
that
education
alone
is
going
to
fix,
it
seems,
and
the
police,
I
think,
would
would
agree
and
have
told
us
numerous
times
that
the
issue
is
not
that
people
don't
know
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
it.
K
Rather
they
do
it
in
spite
of
knowing
that
they
shouldn't
be
doing
it.
So
we
really
are
looking
probably
more
at
needing
to
to
respond
outside
of
education
I'll,
just
hopefully
it's
okay
to
speak
on
behalf
of
cu.
They
have
done
some
changes
in
their
student
conduct
and
they
are
looking
at
fireworks
very
differently
and
trying
to
evaluate
with
student
conduct
what
can
be
done?
I
Thanks
for
that
amanda
and
I
would
just
sort
of
underpin
the
you
know
one
of
your
later
points
that
enforcement
probably
needs
to
be
part
of
this,
and-
and
I
don't
you
know-
I'm
not
sure
sparklers
need
to
be
banned,
but
we're
not.
You
know
getting
at
the
large
fire
setting
things
and
then.
I
L
One
piece
that
I
think
would
be
important
to
consider
is
also
working
with
our
upcoming
county
sheriff
in
discussing
about
changing
or
modifying
or
looking
at,
the
criteria
in
which
our
new,
our
our
county
sheriff,
can
institute
firebands
and
having
maybe
perhaps
a
little
bit
more
discretion,
understanding
that
we
have
heightened
ignition
sources
around
4th
of
july
and
then
that
discretionary
ability
might
then
give
a
little
bit
more
opportunity
to
limit
either
the
sale
or
the
use
of
them
through
the
sort
of
communications
that
come
through
issuing
fire
bans
in
that
capacity.
C
G
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
I
just
I'll
be
very
brief,
wanted
to
kind
of
build
off
of
what
amanda
said.
We
take
fireworks
reports
when
we
get
a
firework
report
from
bpd,
incredibly
serious
rachel
to
your
point
or
sorry,
mayor
pro-tem
friend,
to
your
point,
particularly
when
there's
a
fire
ban
in
place,
there's
a
very,
very
high
level
of
risk
of
damage
to
property
and
others,
and
so
we've
significantly
adjusted
our
stance
on
that.
I
Thanks
so
much
and
rachel's
absolutely
fine
and
my
last
question,
although
I
appreciated
it
for
the
noise
ordinance
that
I
had
asked
to
delay
the
second
reading
and
vote
on
until
students
got
back,
are
we
gearing
up
for
second
reading
on
september
1st.
C
L
Thanks
nicole,
well,
rachel
definitely
nailed
the
fireworks
comment
that
I
was
going
to
go
on,
but
I'm
glad
she
brought
it
up,
which
was
a
good
discussion.
Have
my
question
centers,
maybe
towards
nuria
on
with
regards
to.
I
know
that
obvious.
As
you
mentioned,
you
know,
rental
license.
L
Revocation
is
a
last
resort,
but
sometimes
or
oftentimes
the
mere
threat
that
it's
on
the
table
is
really
perhaps
beneficial
to
generating
the
sufficient
desired
change
that
we
want,
and
so
I'm
wondering
is
our
is
the
data
system
and
all
the
back
end
work
and
foundation
in
place
that
that
at
least
can
be
communicated,
not
that
you're
going
to
necessarily,
but
then
hey
starting
by
you
know.
L
I
just
want
to
know
that,
as
we
start
this
term
of
the
semester,
students
come
back,
that
the
landlords,
knowing
that
their
you
know,
rental
properties,
are
full
know
that
in
the
back
of
their
head,
this
is
this.
Is
this
could
be
sort
of
looming
behind
them?
Do
it
will
that
be
sort
of
there
for
them
or
not,
and
or
is
there
some
delay
before?
That's
really
going
to
be
something
on
the
table.
C
Well,
we
want
to,
and
I
appreciate
the
question
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
communicate
it
right
right.
We
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
to
create
an
environment
where
our
landlords
are
thinking
that
we
have
this
threat
over
them
all
the
time,
because
again,
we've
got
so
many
great
landlords
here
in
the
city
who
are
doing
tremendous
things,
but
we
want
to
be
honest
about
what
tools
we
have
and
particularly
for
those
that
are
not
perhaps
sort
of
performing
in
the
way
that
we
would
like
to
that
threat.
C
If
you
will
that
that
reality,
I
would
call
it
more
is
already
there
today
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
add
some
more
administrative
teeth
to
see
if
we
can
intervene
earlier
faster
and
have
an
escalating
approach
to
making
sure
that
people
are
complying
and-
and
we
want
to
message
that
we
want
to
do
that
with
our
partners.
C
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
the
direction
that
we
want
to
go
to
so
as
soon
as
that
data
continues
to
see
itself
forward,
and
we
know
what
that
looks
like
and
we
can
create
better
messaging.
We
will
send
that
out,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thoughtful
about
it,
because
what
I
again
and
my
experience
in
other
cities
is
what
we
don't
want
to
do-
is
vilify
property
managers
and
landlords,
they're
great
people,
doing
tremendous
work
and
really
housing.
C
So
many
of
our
tenants-
and
I
myself,
I'm
I'm
a
rental
tenant
in
the
city
and
thinking
about
what
does
that
look
like,
but
to
your
point,
how
can
we
just
be
clear
about
what
are
expectations
and
what
could
be
the
consequences
of
not
performing
and
I'll?
Think
well,
we'll
be
thoughtful
about
that
language
and
we
really
want
to
work
with
barha.
We
want
to
work
with
cu.
L
I
appreciate
that
and
my
final
question
is
for
officer
redfern.
Pardon
me.
The
timeline
that
you
put
out
was
really
helpful
to
sort
of
understand
the
transgression
of
events
on
on
the
fourth
and
on
some
of
those
you
mentioned
that
there
was
certainly
looked
like
to
be
a
criminal
offense
and
a
suspect
arrested.
L
I
was
curious
if
there's
any
what
I
didn't
see,
and
maybe
it
was
there
and
I
missed
it-
was
with
regards
to
the
long
gun
situation
that
was
there
on
the
hill.
Was
there?
Was
there
any
sort
of
arrest
or
identification
of
a
suspect?
With
regards
to
that
particular
incident,
because
I
I
from
what
I
recall
there
were
not
just
a
long
gun
reported,
but
at
least
a
number
of
expended
rounds,
and
given
our
community
sensitivity
to
that,
I
just
didn't
know.
Is
there
any?
L
Has
there
been
for
any
further
update
on
that
particular
instance?.
H
Yes,
sir
great
question,
so
we
did
not
apprehend
the
the
person
that
was
reported
to
be
running
around
with
the
gun.
We
had
a
couple
incidents
of
shots
fired
on
the
evening
of
the
fourth
and
then
the
next
day
we
actually
found
some
shell
casings
from
a
rifle,
and
so
our
detectives,
working
through
some
forensic
angles
on
this
currently
have
some
leads
that
I'm
not
able
to
share
at
the
moment.
But
these
cases
are
all
assigned
to
detectives
who
are
actively
working
them
and
we're
we're
currently
running
down.
H
Some
leads
that
appear
that
likely
tie
into
some
other
events
based
on
ballistics.
So
yes,
great
question,
and
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
some
news
to
follow
up
on
in
the
very
near
future
that
we've
made
some
progress
on
identifying
the
individuals.
B
Right
thanks,
then,
we've
got
tara
and
then
lauren,
and
then
I
will
call
on
myself.
M
Just
a
few
things,
first
of
all,
this
was
a
fantastic,
fantastic
presentation,
I'm
looking
forward
to
it
all
coming
to
pass,
and
I
my
first
question
has
to
do
with
the
noise
ordinance.
So
we
have
this
noise
ordinance
now,
not
that
it's
doing
much,
and
so
my
question
is
because
there's
still
a
lot
of
noise
right,
obviously
from
july
4th.
M
So
whereas
I
appreciate-
and
I'm
so
happy
that
we're
getting
that
second
noise,
ordinance
or
making
our
noise
ordinance
longer
is,
do
we
feel
like
it's
going
to
make
a
big
enough
difference
in
noise
or
do
we
need
to
make
our
give
our
noise
ordinances
more
teeth,
so
to
speak.
That's
my
first
question.
C
You
need
to
there's
a
process
to
setting
a
complaint.
This
will
be
a
little
bit
more
objective.
Will
allow
police
to
observe
that
from
a
further
distance
and
will
allow
for
earlier
interventions,
and
we
will
track
it.
We
hope
that
it
will
help.
I
don't
believe
that
any
single
intervention
that
we've
talked
about
today
is
the
sole
solution,
but
rather
it's
the
comprehensive
package
of
both
education
and
support
and
enforcement
and
accountability
that
I
think,
is
going
to
make
a
difference
going
forward.
M
And
my
next
question
has
to
do
with
the
landlords,
and
I
think
that
this
is
great,
that
we
are
that
we
are
attacking
this
problem
in
this
way.
So
I
don't
know
if
barha
wants
to
answer,
but
I,
as
I
read
the
packet,
it
said
that
there
is
going
to
be
an
educational
program
that
is
voluntary.
M
N
To
you
know,
my
understanding
is
that
that's
just
sort
of
the
initial
phase
is
to
get
the
is
to
start
with
it
voluntary.
I
agree,
tara
that
your
problem
guys
aren't
going
to
be
coming
or
women
excuse
me
aren't
going
to
be
running
to
education
right,
that's
part
of
the
issue.
N
I
think,
as
we
move
through
this
process,
you
know:
we've
talked
about
a
lot
of
different
opportunities.
One
could
be
incentive
based.
You
know
one
of
the
things
from
the
landlord
perspective
that
we
are
very
excited
about
this
project.
Is
this
idea
of
data
and
us
being
able
to
get
data?
N
You
know,
certainly,
if
our
tenants
are
throwing
parties
there
and
the
police
stop
by
they're,
not
letting
us
know
so
this
concept
of
being
able
to
get
calls
for
service
in
a
short
amount
of
time
would
be
really
valuable,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we've
kicked
around
this
idea
is:
maybe
you
get
this
data?
If
you
go
to
this
training,
you
know
you'll
have
like
a
login
for
you
specifically,
and
I
know
certainly
our
members
really
like
that
concept,
because
then
we
know
more
what's
happening.
N
We
can
address
those
things
you
know
because,
understandably
there's
not
always
tickets.
Given
you
know
it's
not
that
easy
to
do
as
I've
learned
through
this
process
working
with
our
partners.
So
that's
kind
of
the
concept.
Now
it's
certainly
evolving.
C
I
I
appreciate
that
megan
and
I'll
add
to
I.
We
have
seen
other
cities,
for
example,
that
if
you
go
to
a
course
like
this,
and
if
you
do
it,
perhaps
your
rental
fee
can
be
reduced
slightly.
So
it's
another
incentive
to
perhaps
have
that
be
an
avenue
and
then,
depending
as
we
continue
to
see
the
data,
it
could
be
that
we
decide
to
develop
something
much
like
for
those
problem,
properties
that
you
may
have
to
have
a
property
improvement
plan,
and
part
of
that
may
be
that
you
have
to
attend
this
course
right.
M
And
then,
lastly,
I
wanted
to
say
that
I
was
at
the
may,
22nd
neighborhood
walk
and
it
was
fantastic.
I
think
what
I
liked
the
best
about
it.
So
many
things
was
that
boulder's,
a
small
enough
town
where
we
can
meet
people
who
work
for
the
city
who
are
involved
in
leadership,
and
it
makes
such
a
difference
to
put
a
face
to
a
name
and
to
walk
around
and
discuss.
M
What's
on
your
mind,
there
were
not
a
huge
amount
of
people
there,
so
I'm
hoping
that
for
the
next
one-
and
that
includes
community
members,
not
that
commit
many
community
members
showed
up.
So
I'm
hoping
for
the
next
one
that
many
more
community
members
and
perhaps
council
members
if
they're
available,
can
show
up,
because
it
was
a
great
experience.
O
Thank
you,
nicole,
and
thank
you
all
for
the
collaboration
and
just
the
amount
of
work
that's
gone
into
this.
I
think
that
you
know
I'm
really
excited
to
see
some
of
this
moving
forward,
particularly
I'm
kind
of
intrigued
by
this
tiered
idea,
with
rental
licenses
and
or
license
lengths.
O
I
think
that
you
know
kind
of,
like
your
point
system
on
your
driver's
license,
keep
messing
up
that
has
that
has
impact,
so
I
think
it
and
but
also
paired
with
having
really
readily
available
information,
so
that
landlords
are
more
aware
of
what
is
happening
and
if
they
have
an
issue
that
they
need
to
address.
So
thank
you
all
so
much
for
all
of
this
and
really
look
forward
to
seeing
it
move
forward.
B
Right-
and
I
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions-
they
are
not
to
be
answered
now,
just
things
that
I
would
really
appreciate
folks
bringing
back
as
we
see
these
initiatives
in
the
coming
months.
The
first
is
just
around
what
metrics
we're
going
to
be
tracking
in
terms
of
outcomes.
What
is
success
going
to
look
like?
B
So
if
you
could,
as
you
bring
these
back
to
us,
paint
a
picture
of
what
hill
residents
and
businesses
and
the
city
as
a
whole
can
really
expect
to
see
with
these
initiatives,
if
they're
working
as
intended
and
sort
of
how
we'll
be
tracking
that
as
we
move
forward,
the
second
is
just
a
question
around
whether
we're
going
to
be
able
to
track
any
kind
of
demographic
information
with
some
of
this,
just
to
make
sure
that
some
of
these
policies,
especially
those
around
enforcement,
are
not
inadvertently
increasing
any
racial
disparities
that
we
see
in
our
community.
B
C
Terrific
and
I
promise
not
to
speak-
hardly
that
much
on
this
one,
but
we
are
now
going
to
be
moving
into
sort
of
an
update
on
reimagining,
public
safety
efforts
and
the
master
plan.
I'll
say,
as
many
of
you
know,
in
council,
chief
harold
was
hired
in
april
of
2020
in
large
part
really
because
of
her
commitment
to
police
reform
and
data-driven
strategies.
C
C
And
since
that
time,
bpd
has
completed
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
to
align
the
department's
policies
with
best
practices
and
evidence,
evidence-based
strategies,
and
I
believe
that
this
effort,
with
reimagining
policing,
with
the
continued
input
from
council
and
from
our
community,
will
only
further
this
initial
commitment
and
continue
to
align
the
department's
work
with
our
community
values.
J
Much
nuria
and
it's
good
to
be
here
tonight,
good
evening,
council.
My
name
is
maris,
harold,
I'm
the
police
chief
of
boulder.
J
I
just
want
to
start
this
presentation
out
thanking
the
police
master
plan
subcommittee
members
who
have
worked
so
hard
on
this
master
plan,
starting
with
mayor
pro
tem
friend,
council
member
weiner,
community
members,
marina
lagrave,
mallory,
cates
assistant
city
assistant,
city
manager,
pam
davis,
equity
manager,
amy,
kane
and
city
council
administrator,
taylor,
ryman
and
the
one
and
only
project
manager,
wendy
schwartz,
who
I
could
not
have
done
all
of
this
work
without
her
great
work
with
me.
J
I
just
want
to
say
to
start
this
off
that
shortly
after
I
arrived
in
boulder,
our
country
witnessed
the
murder
of
george
floyd.
Most
recently,
we've
witnessed
the
inaction
of
the
uvalde
public
safety
departments
to
stop
an
active
shooter
from
killing
school
children.
J
J
J
I
can
tell
you,
after
being
here
for
two
and
a
half
years
and
working
alongside
the
police
officers
in
this
department.
I
have
no
such
concerns.
I'm
not
saying
that
police
officers
will
never
make
mistakes,
but
we
have
built
an
infrastructure
far
more
robust
than
most
agencies
across
the
country
for
remediation
transparency
and
accountability.
J
P
Okay,
great
hold
on
just
a
second
I'm
having
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
here
that
I've
gotta
sort
out:
okay,
great
so
greetings,
council,
wendy,
schwartz,
I'm
the
human
services
policy
manager
in
our
city's
department
of
housing
and
human
services,
and
tonight
I'm
coming
to
you
as
the
project
manager
for
the
police
department
master
plan.
P
So
we'll
start
out
just
with
this
quick
slide
on
the
agenda,
so
that
everybody
knows
what
we're
going
to
cover
tonight.
First,
we'll
start
with
the
questions
for
council,
which
of
course
were
also
in
the
council
memo.
But
that
way
you
can
be
thinking
about
them
for
when
we
circle
back
at
the
end,
we'll
go
over
a
little
bit
of
background
on
master
planning
for
the
folks
who
are
less
familiar
with
that
talk
about
the
environment
that
affects
our
police
department
and
the
planning
for
our
police
department.
P
P
P
Of
course,
we
want
all
of
our
master
plans
here
in
the
city
to
be
consistent
with
other
key
plans
and
and
while
we're
talking
about
important
plans
here
in
the
city,
I'll
just
make
note
that
one
very
important
plan,
of
course,
is
our
racial
equity
plan
and
so
you'll
notice
that
as
we're
going
through
these
slides
we're
going
to
be
highlighting
where
some
of
these
steps
align
with
the
racial
equity
instrument
that
we've
been
working
with
for
this
plan,
and
so
in
this
case,
as
we're
looking
at
the
goals
and
the
the
outcomes
of
the
planning
process,
then
that
really
aligns
with
racial
equity
instrument
step
one
establishing
the
outcome.
P
P
So
this
slide
just
highlights
some
of
the
factors
that
we
noted
in
the
draft
plan
about
an
environment
that
really
impacts
the
way
our
police
department
does
its
work
and
the
way
that
we
plan
for
its
work.
So
the
first
one
is
a
workload
and
staffing
analysis
and
that's
really
where
our
officers
spending
their
time,
and
so
there's
been
an
external
analysis
done
by
a
consultant
on
this,
and
the
chief
can
talk
more
about
this
later,
but
essentially
there's
some.
P
Also
crime
trends
and
the
chief
has
talked
a
lot
in
updates
to
council
about
this.
Certainly,
we've
had
increases
locally.
That
also
mirrors
some
state
and
federal
trends,
and
then,
lastly,
the
really
important
conversation
that
nuria
and
the
chief
both
referenced
about
national
and
local
discussions
on
police
reform.
P
This
is
just
an
overview
of
our
departmental,
our
cross-departmental
team.
That's
been
working
on
this
project
and
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
representation
of
internally
how
this
project
has
been
approached
because
early
on
the
police,
department
and
and
the
city
really
recognized
the
need
for
an
integrated
approach,
not
just
siloing
the
ideas
of
behind
public
safety
in
the
police
department,
and
so
this
is
these-
are
representatives
of
the
great
team.
P
That's
been
working
on
this
listed
on
this
slide
and
then
the
chief
also
noticed
noted
that
we
have
had
a
process
subcommittee
that
has
helped
us
over
the
last
year
and
a
half,
and
that
includes
community
members,
mallory
cates
and
marina
lagrave,
who
were
selected
via
an
open
community
application
process
in
late
2020,
and
then
we've
had
two
council
members
all
along
on
the
process
subcommittee
and
in
2021.
P
Those
were
council
members,
joseph
and
yates,
and
this
year
in
2022,
it's
been
mayor
pro
tem
friend
and
council
member
weiner
and,
as
the
name
suggests,
certainly
the
work
of
this
subcommittee
is
really
to
advise
the
staff
on
process.
So
it's
it's
not
as
much
about
the
content
of
the
plan.
Next
slide,
please.
P
So
we've
gone
through
several
major
milestones
in
the
project.
So
far
we
started
last
summer
with
window
one
which
was
a
big,
qualitatively
focused
window
to
get
a
baseline
on
the
hopes,
values
and
concerns
people
had
for
policing
in
their
city.
P
Then
we
went
into
window
two,
which
was
a
shorter
quantitative
window
to
gauge
how
much
different
values
and
focus
areas
did
or
didn't,
resonate
with
different
audiences
in
window
three
learning.
Together,
we
were
responding
to
some
requests.
We
had
gotten
for
more
information
about
the
department
and
we
took
an
approach
on
this
that
we've
gotten
some
pretty
good
feedback
on
which
was
instead
of
having
a
big
background
document
on
the
department.
P
We
we
divided
that
into
one
pagers
about
different
subjects.
So,
for
instance,
what
does
the
police
department
budget
look
like
was
one
of
them
and
we
we
were
able
to
feature
those
different
subjects
in
police,
town
halls,
and
then
people
could
ask
questions
about
them
as
part
of
the
chief's
town
hall
meetings
or
give
feedback
on
the
be
heard
boulder
site
about
that.
P
So
that
was,
I
think,
a
different
way
to
approach
things
that
worked
out
really
well,
and
then
this
spring
staff
developed
the
first
draft
of
the
master
plan
based
on
that
feedback
and
we'll
be
going
forward
in
the
next
phase
of
the
process
for
community
feedback
on
that
draft
and
I'll
touch
a
little
bit
more
on
those
steps
a
little
later
on,
and
then
this
is
step
two
of
the
racial
equity
instrument,
or
specifically
the
engagement
windows
featured
on
this
slide,
are
step
two
of
the
racial
equity
instrument,
which
is
collecting
data
through
community
feedback
and
we'll
be
continuing
in
step
two
as
part
of
engagement
window.
P
Four
and
I'll
also
note
that,
whenever
possible
in
alignment
with
our
racial
equity
plan,
we
have
disaggregated
the
feedback,
we've
gotten
by
race
and
ethnicity.
Next
slide.
Please.
P
Criminal
behavior
is
met
with
accountability,
measures
that
are
fair
and
just
within
policing
and
other
systems
with
opportunities
for
individuals
to
be
supported
in
underlying
issues
and
officers
are
part
of
the
communities
they
serve,
building
relationships
and
understanding
and
addressing
problems
before
having
to
step
up
enforcement
and
resort
to
force
next
slide.
Please.
P
So
the
six
focus
areas
that
we
have
as
draft
areas
are
first
partnering
with
community,
and
some
of
you
who
were
involved
in
the
earlier
engagement
phases
might
remember.
This
was
originally
called
integrating
with
community
and
what
we
found
over
time
was
that
was
somewhat
unclear
to
people,
and
so
as
we
as
we
get
feedback
on
this
draft
of
the
plan.
P
We're
going
to
see
if
partnering
for
with
community
is
something
that's
more
understandable
and
what
was
really
reflected
in
this
area
was
a
lot
of
feedback
from
people
who
wanted
to
get
to
know
and
work
with
their
police
department,
really
outside
of
emergencies
or
outside
of
bad
things
happening.
P
Many
community
members
focused
on
the
need
to
ensure
that
we're
recruiting
diverse
candidates
that
reflect
the
values
of
the
community
and
making
sure
that
they're,
healthy
and
well
supported
to
serve
boulder
and
definitely
modeling
transparency
and
accountability.
This
was
one
of
the
top
things
cited
by
many
people
and,
and
that
really
is
about
the
need
to
clearly
understand
data
procedures.
What's
going
on
with
the
police
department,
how
they're
interacting
with
the
community.
P
As
we
go
through
the
key
points
of
the
plan,
we
have
associated
all
the
draft
strategies
with
with
multiple
focus
areas
in
most
cases,
and
we
re
really
organized
around
the
strategies,
because
most
of
them
do
address
multiple
focus
areas
and
really
reflect
our
approach
of
integrating
important
themes
across
the
work
across
the
department
and
across
the
city
for
a
more
holistic
approach.
P
So
next
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
chief.
So
she
can
talk
about
the
strategies
that
are
in
the
draft
plan
with
some
examples
of
tactics
and
specific
actions
in
each
strategy.
Area
and
you'll
also
see
the
key
focus
areas
that
are
attached
to
the
strategies
on
each
slide
and
I'll
note,
as
we
move
to
the
next
slide,
that
the
13
strategies
are
also
aligned
with
step
four
of
the
racial
equity
instrument,
which
is
developing
strategies.
So
take
it
away
to
you.
J
Thank
you
so
much
so
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
community
about
alternative
responses
and
bpd
has
a
long
history
of
using
alternative
responses
for
police
calls
for
service,
such
as
auto
accident
investigations,
code
enforcement,
our
photo
enforcement
team,
our
animal
protection
officers
and
our
homeless
outreach
team
that
rarely
engages
in
any
form
of
enforcement.
J
We
also
have
a
robust
co-response
model
that
is
partnering
clinicians
with
officers
who
respond
to
calls
when
community
members
are
in
acute
crisis.
Preliminary
evaluation
of
the
program
has
shown
promising
results,
including
lowered
use
of
force,
incidents
and
minimal
need
to
place.
Persons
on
mental
health
holds
creating
better
outcomes
for
community
members.
J
In
addition,
the
boulder
police
department,
the
boulder
fire
department
and
housing
and
human
services
are
committed
to
pilot
piloting,
an
alternative
to
police
response
for
low-level
non-criminal
calls
for
service
like
the
star
program
in
denver
preliminarily,
a
data
review
concluded
that
approximately
two
to
three
point-
five
percent
of
bd
bpd
calls
for
service
could
be
handled
with
a
paramedic
paramedic
caseworker
without
police
response
more
on
this
to
follow
in
the
fall.
Next
slide,
please
recruiting
bpd
is
committed
to
recruiting
and
retaining
persons
from
diverse
backgrounds
and
perspectives.
J
Bt
bbd's
diversity
is
largely
effective
of
the
city
of
boulder.
Last
year,
the
boulder
police
department
committed
to
the
national
institute
of
justice's
30
by
30
initiative,
which
focuses
on
the
underrepresentation
of
women
in
policing.
The
nij
believes,
and
I
believe
the
underrepresentation
of
women
in
policing
undermines
public
safety
currently
in
the
u.s,
women
make
up
only
12
percent
of
sworn
officers
and
only
3
percent
of
police
leadership
positions
in
the
united
states.
J
Research
suggests
women
officers
use
less
force,
are
named
in
fewer
complaints
and
are
perceived
by
the
victims
of
crime
as
more
compassionate,
most
certainly
better
outcomes
for
crime
victims,
especially
as
sexual
assault
victims,
and
make
fewer
discretionary
arrests,
especially
community
members
of
color.
We
are
working
really
hard
with
our
hr
partners
on
recruiting
and
marketing
efforts
in
diverse
neighborhoods
across
the
region
and
also
are
partnering
with
the
university
of
colorado,
but
I
can
tell
you
so
as
chief
jokers
at
the
same
time,
we
are
next
slide,
please
best
practices
and
evidence-based
models.
J
J
I
also
wanted
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
the
icap
model,
and
I've
presented
this
a
couple
times
at
least
to
council,
but
the
icap
model
is
a
dramatic
departure
from
the
traditional
use
of
force.
Models
that
we
see
across
the
country
at
the
core
of
the
use
of
force
model
is
the
constant
reminder
of
the
sanctity
of
human
life.
In
every
decision,
a
police
officer
makes
when
concur
confronted
with
a
community
member.
J
Preliminary
results
in
boulder
are
consistent
with
other
evidence-based
research
evaluations
that
show
officers
use
less
force
after
receiving
this
training
moving
forward.
However,
the
icap
model
needs
to
be
integrated
in
other
policies,
procedures
and
guidelines
in
high-risk
categories
such
as
traffic
stops,
I
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
the
importance
of
being
accredited
in
policing,
so
we
are
partners
right
now
with
the
commission
on
accreditation
of
law
enforcement
agencies.
J
This
accreditation
process
really
provides
our
police
department
the
organizational
foundation
to
operate
effectively
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Some
of
the
highlights
of
the
partnership
are
a
comprehensive
audit
of
policies
and
procedures,
preparedness
to
address
natural
and
man-made
disasters,
community
trust,
building,
equitable
hiring
practices
and
yearly
independent
review
of
our
department
by
independent
subject
matter.
Experts
next
slide,
please
so
staffing
for
community
problem
solving.
We
asked
an
outside
researcher
to
come
into
the
police
department
and
conduct
a
staffing
analysis
report
for
the
boulder
police
department.
J
Dr
troy
payne
found
that
the
workload
for
bpd
has
changed
significantly
in
the
last
several
years.
As
calls
for
service
went
down
the
complexity
of
the
calls
changed
dramatically,
requiring
more
officers
to
respond
for
calls
of
violence,
burglaries
and
serious
behavioral
health
crisis
incidents,
including
violence
against
police
officers.
J
Best
practices
in
staffing
analysis
across
the
country,
including
the
international
city
county
managers
association,
requires
officers
to
spend
60
percent
of
their
time.
Responding
to
community
calls
for
service.
The
remainder
of
the
time
should
be
spent
engaging
with
community
on
problem
solving
and
community
policing.
J
The
report
also
recommends
the
police
department
should
always
have
60
percent
of
its
policing
staff
assigned
to
patrol
operations.
Understaffing
may
undercut
community
policing
and
problem
solving
efforts,
something
the
community
values
and
desires.
Recent
research
suggests
that
more
time
a
police
officer
can
spend
with
a
community
member
on
calls
for
service
and
problem-solving
efforts.
J
J
Bpd
is
committed
to
continuing
its
work
with
the
information
and
innovation
department
to
develop
a
dashboard
containing
and
visualizing
all
of
our
traffic
stop
data
all
of
our
use
of
force
data
and
all
of
our
arrest
data.
I
believe
the
key
to
building
communities
of
trust
is
to
be
transparent
with
all
of
our
high-risk
data
points
in
the
fall
of
2022
researchers
will
review
and
analyze
the
boulder
police
department's
data,
and
they
will
provide
an
analysis
of
their
findings
as
well
as
recommendations
associated
with
those
findings.
J
Next
slide,
please
independent
review.
The
boulder
police
department
is
working
with
the
boulder,
the
police
oversight
panel
and
the
independent
monitor.
We
value
their
role
in
ensuring
that
the
boulder
police
department
is
held
accountable
and
transparent.
We
will
continue
to
involve
them
in
training
policy
changes
and
research
projects
next
slide.
Please,
training,
police
training
is
often
minimized,
underfunded
and
lacks
scientific
evaluation
on
outcomes.
J
We
have
a
responsibility
to
know
what
works
and
what
doesn't?
Our
goal
is
to
partner
with
researchers
to
conduct
these
much
needed
evaluations
and
build
a
culture
of
learning
and
process
improvement
for
decades.
Police
have
disproportionately
spent
police
departments,
have
spent
disproportional
amount
of
time
on
learning,
hard
skills
and
not
other
needed
skills
such
as
crime,
science,
building,
emotional
intelligence
and
leadership
concepts.
J
J
We
are
currently
trying
to
train
all
of
our
officers
in
crisis
intervention
crisis
intervention
training,
which
is
a
certification
which
requires
40
hours
of
time,
bias
in
microaggression
training,
virtual
reality,
training
and
de-escalation,
and
again
the
importance
of
icat
training
to
understand
proper
dosage
and
when
we
need
to
reevaluate
that
training
as
well
crowd
management
training
and
also
always
our
response
to
active
harm
incidents
and
ongoing
training
kind
crime.
Science
principles,
as
well
as
a
stratified
policing,
model
training.
J
In
addition,
starting
in
early
fall,
the
boulder
police
department
will
roll
out
something
that
I'm
really
passionate
about.
Is
a
community
policing,
neighborhood
pilot
project
in
five
neighborhoods
to
allow
community
members
to
sit
down
and
discuss
unique
problems
with
command
staff
personnel
and
a
neighborhood
officer
early
discussions
with
community
leaders
about
this
program
have
been
welcomed
and
well
received.
J
J
Unmanned
aircraft
can
be
used
to
prevent
use
of
force
situations
in
search
warrants,
barricaded
suspects,
persons
with
weapons,
open
field,
searches
for
missing
children
in
at-risk
populations
and
determine
and
find
suspicious
devices.
This
technology
prevents
injuries
to
both
officers
and
suspects,
and
we
would
like
to
be
on
the
cutting
edge
of
this
technology.
J
Historically,
police
leaders
have
done
a
disservice
to
the
policing
profession
by
minimizing
the
trauma
and
the
post-traumatic
stress
disorders
that
many
police
officers
experience
at
some
point
in
their
careers.
The
stigma
associated
with
an
officer
experienced
behavioral
health
issues
has
been
substantial.
J
Officers
would
try
to
work
through
pain,
depression
and
anxiety,
sometimes
resulting
in
negative
interactions
in
the
community.
We
must
do
better
in
this
arena.
We
must
offer
innovative
strategies
and
peer
support
addiction,
services,
stress
inoculation,
training,
resiliency
training
and
post-traumatic
stress
disorder
therapy.
J
J
J
They
provide
real-time
information
on
the
progression
and
status
of
these
events,
while
minimizing
the
risk
and
harm
to
first
responders.
Unfortunately,
the
need
for
this
technology
and
the
training
associated
with
our
response
will
only
increase
in
the
future.
We
are
committed
to
focusing
efforts
and
resources
toward
training
planning
and
community
resiliency.
J
J
I'm
also
really
excited
to
partner
with
cu
on
establishing
a
state-of-the-art
police
academy,
where
police
officers
will
be
educated
in
the
areas
that
we
discussed
in
this
master
plan
chief
jokers
from
cu,
and
I
are
passionate
about
the
ability
to
train
police
officers
in
innovative
strategies
and
ensure
they
receive
college
credit
credits
and
or
a
certification
from
cu.
While
attending
the
academy.
J
We
believe
it
will
be
a
game
changer
for
the
recruiting
of
top
tier
talent
and
applicants
that
are
serious
about
community
service
and
crime
prevention.
Next
slide,
please
right
space
to
do
the
work.
Our
police
department
facility
is
aging
and
it
is
not
energy
efficient
and
we
are
very
limited
on
space.
J
We
are
working
with
the
facilities
department,
so
our
needs
are
aligned
with
their
vision
on
all
city
departments.
A
space
needs
conducted
in
2014
projected
the
need
for
an
additional
25
000
to
30
thousand
feet
of
space
in
an
additional
150
parking
spaces,
and
we
regularly
experience
those
constraints
today.
J
This
also
aligns
with
the
city's
climate
goals
and
the
recently
adopted
facilities
master
plan
next
slide.
Please
I
just
want
to
touch
upon
this.
I
want
to
give
counsel
in
the
community
an
idea
of
how
the
boulder
police
department
is
really
working
to
control
for
disparities.
J
I
wanted
to
highlight
the
current
state
of
our
department's
ability
to
understand
and
intervene
when
we
see
disparities
in
our
systems
with
the
technology,
advancements
in
the
partnerships
of
researchers
and
the
adoption
of
this
master
plan.
Our
systems
of
accountability
will
be
much
more
comprehensive,
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
of
the
areas
that
I
think
that
you
should
be
aware
of,
and
the
community
should
be
aware
of.
J
J
J
We
are
working
with
the
police
oversight
panel,
who
obviously
reviews
all
of
our
citizen,
complaints
and
use
of
force,
situations
for
another
level
of
accountability
and
then
recently,
with
the
passage
of
senate
bill
7217,
all
of
our
stat
stop
data,
both
consensual
and
non-consensual,
is
given
to
the
state
for
their
researchers
to
do
studies
on
disparities
there
as
well.
We
have
been
in
compliance
with
this
law
and
even
before
this
passed
and
went
into
motion
in
april
of
this
year,
we
were
giving
the
state
our
traffic
stop
data
as
well.
J
So
my
vision
is
that
we
continue
to
become
much
more
comprehensive
and
much
more
comprehensive
in
our
evaluation
of
all
of
our
high-risk
data
points
next
slide,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
go
to
my
chief
of
staff,
joe
mylek.
Q
Thank
you
chief
good
evening,
mayor
pro
tem
friend,
members
of
council,
city
manager
and
staff.
My
name
is
joe
milak
and
I'm
the
chief
staff
of
the
boulder
police
department.
The
master
plan
will
require
resources
and
funding.
So
a
draft
budget
is
included
in
the
plan
to
highlight
the
areas
and
programs
we
have
discussed.
Q
We
understand
this
will
require
a
broader
discussion,
with
input
and
feedback
from
internal
and
external
stakeholders
and
cross-departmental
teams,
including
more
robust
research
into
the
costs.
The
costs
are
preliminary
and
projected
over
a
five-year
implementation
period,
with
an
adjustment
for
an
inflationary
rate.
Q
Dr
troy
payne
has
completed
a
staffing
analysis
referred
to
in
the
plan
several
times
tonight
and
dr
payne
has
indicated
his
willingness
to
make
himself
available
to
share
his
research
and
recommendations
at
a
time
in
the
future.
There
are
two
primary
components
of
the
budget:
initial
one-time
costs
and
ongoing
adjustments
to
the
base
budget.
Q
One-Time
costs
include
a
new
police
academy,
startup
robot
replacements,
consultant
costs,
personnel
costs,
equipment,
vehicles
and
academy.
Electronic
charging
stations
for
a
fleet
and
ongoing
costs
include
salary
and
benefits,
vehicles
and
equipment,
including
their
replacement
and
maintenance.
Compression
issues.
Ongoing
training,
new
academy
to
include
the
ongoing
operational
costs
and
robot
replacement,
inventory
and
new
technology
not
included
in
this
budget
is
the
replacement
cost
for
a
new
facility.
That
has
been
a
topic
since
the
2013
master
plan
and
will
continue
to
be
a
discussion
as
part
of
the
facility's
master
plan.
P
Thank
you
joe
thank
you
chief,
so
next
steps
getting
feedback
on
the
draft
plan
from
the
community
engagement
in
engagement
window
4
is
our
big
next
step
and
we
have
hired
a
consultant
through
a
a
request
for
proposals,
otherwise
known
as
rfp
process.
That
consultant
is
national
policing
institute
and
the
consultant
is
working
to
design
a
community
survey
as
well
as
non-survey
mechanisms
for
input
on
the
draft
plan.
Part
of
that
contract
involves
outreach
to
historically
excluded
groups
to
get
input
on
how
to
craft
that
window.
P
After
that,
we
will
be
releasing
a
revised
draft
plan
and
that's
targeted
for
october
in
time
for
an
opportunity
for
community
members
to
comment
on
that
revised
draft
at
the
end
of
october,
in
alignment
with
the
process
subcommittee
meeting
that
month
and
then
we're
targeting
council
final
review
and
hopefully
approval
of
the
plan
for
december
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
then
at
at
that
point.
P
Once
the
plan
is
approved,
then
we
would
be
moving
into
racial
equity
instrument,
step
five
evaluation,
which
also
takes
us
back
to
step
two
data
collection
in
2023.
So
next
slide.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
presentation
really
appreciate
all
the
the
time
that
everybody
put
into
sharing
this
with
us.
B
So
for
council,
I
am
thinking
we
can
split
up
our
discussions
of
these
two
questions
just
to
help
us
kind
of
stay
focused
on
one
thing
at
a
time
and
hopefully
provide
some
more
clarity
for
staff.
So,
let's,
let's
first
start
on
the
first
question
about
the
reimagined
policing
plan.
So,
as
you
are,
you
know
considering
feedback
on
this,
just
to
be
a
little
more
specific.
Let's
think
about
what
is
it
that
you
like
about
the
reimagine
policing
plan?
Is
you
know
what
was
presented
and
what
you've
read?
B
What
changes?
Would
you
like
to
see
staff
working
on
the
plan
and
consider
as
we
head
into
this
next
engagement
phase
and
so
we'll
kind
of
have
that
discussion?
And
then
we
can
come
back
to
the
questions
specifically
about
this
next
engagement
window.
That's
coming
up
and
provide
some
feedback
there.
O
Your
hand
up
thanks
so,
and
this
is
a
little
bit
in
the
weeds,
but
on
the
one
of
the
things
I
liked
in
the
stratified
policing
model,
you
there's
a
number
of
really
great
questions
that
are
set
out
that
are
written
to
be
necessary
to
set
a
strategic
baseline-
and
I
was
just
I
didn't
see
in
there
sort
of
who
would
be
answering
those
questions
or,
if
there's
a
plan
for
how
you
will
get
answers
to
those
questions.
J
I'm
sorry
council,
member
folkers
are,
are
you
speaking
of
the
stratified
policing
crime
prevention
strategy?
Yes,.
O
J
F
J
Yeah,
so
the
stratified
policing
model
is
really
about
accountability
and
transparency,
to
use
disorder,
and
so
what
our
vision
is
for.
This
strategy
is
to
involve
the
community
on
both
our
tactical
analysis
and
our
strategic
analysis
to
me.
J
This
is
in
in
in
my
world
where
we
really
need
to
work
as
a
profession
on
understanding
those
crime,
science
principles
and
blocking
those
opportunities
for
crime
to
happen
in
the
first
place,
and
this
speaks
volumes
to
disparities
that
we've
witnessed
historically,
and
I
really
do
believe
that
a
solid
crime
prevention
strategy
gets
stuck
to
the
heart
of
those
issues.
But
most
certainly
I
run
the
strategic
portion
of
the
crime
prevention
strategy
and
then
the
deputy
chiefs
obviously
run
the
tactical
side
of
this
strategy.
J
But
it's
my
vision
to
have
the
community
present
at
some
of
these
meetings,
where
we're
really
discussing
crime
problems
and
problem-solving
efforts
across
the
city
with
the
police.
I
mean
this
is
the
this
was
the
vision
of
sir
robert
peel
is
to
work
with
the
community
on
problem
solving
and
to
prevent
these
bad
things
from
happening
in
the
first
place.
If
we
can
prevent
these
bad
things
from
happening,
then
we
don't
have
to
rely
on
what
we
all
know
impacts
disproportionately
disenfranchised
communities.
O
I
think
you
laid
out
a
set
of
really
important
questions
and
I
was
just
wondering:
are
we
going
to
go
through
a
process
to
try
and
answer
those
questions
who
might
be
involved
in
that
process,
or
is
that
or
is
it
more
of
an
internal
process,
and
if
so,
are
we
recording
or
sort
of?
How
would
we
know
what
the
answers
to
these
questions
are.
J
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
I
would
love
to
involve
as
many
community
leaders
as
possible
on
answering
those
questions
and
I
think
that's
the
heart
of
community
policing,
and
I
want
that
and
I
value
that
interaction,
because
if
not
it's
not
holistic,
it's
not
community
driven
and
we
miss
voices.
In
that
conversation.
O
B
Right
rachel
clarifying
question.
I
Fine
question:
as
window
4
of
engagement
for
process:
this
is
a
process
question.
What
advisory
boards
will
be
weighing
in.
P
Sure,
rachel,
the
what
I
mean,
obviously
any
advisory
board
in
you
know
in
the
city,
is,
is
really
welcome
to
interact
with
us
around
this
plan.
We
have
already
had
some
outreach
to
the
hrc,
I'm
sorry
the
human
relations
commission
about
this,
and
then
I
saw
joey
pop
up
because
he's
been
discussing
with
the
oversight
committee
when
we
can
when
and
how
we
can
best
get
their
feedback
in
this
window
and
joey
did
you
want
to
pop
on
and
say
anything
about
that.
S
Or
just
real,
quick
we're
working
with
the
panel
right
now
to
schedule.
Excuse
me
schedule
some
time
for
a
member
of
the
the
committee
to
present
to
the
panel
and
the
panel
would
get
the
plan.
Obviously
ahead
of
time,
just
as
the
council
members
did
be
able
to
provide
questions
in
writing
and
then
in
person
provide
their
feedback
to
the
city
and
to
the
police
department
we're
imagining.
S
That
would
be
a
public
discussion
at
their
at
one
of
their
public
meetings
and
that
will
be
scheduled
either
at
a
special
meeting
sometime
in
late
august
or
early
september,
or
perhaps
at
their
regular
monthly
meeting
on
september
9th.
So
that's
coming
down
the
pipe.
I
Thanks
joey,
I
don't
know
if
you
introduced
yourself,
so
I
will
invite
that
if
not.
S
I
And
so
wendy
back
to
you,
so
if
other
advisory
boards
would
like
to
weigh
in
they
could
do
they
just
contact
you
or
that
sounded
open-ended.
So
I
just
wanna,
you
know
as
part
of
this
engagement,
and
you
know,
following
up
on
lauren's
questions
like
who's
gonna,
give
feedback
on
these
critical
questions.
P
Absolutely
absolutely
any
you
know
we.
What
we
really
try
to
do
is
use
all
of
our
mechanisms
to,
of
course,
promote
the
engagement
opportunities
broadly,
and
I
would
certainly
invite
any
of
our
city
boards
and
commissions
who
are
interested
in
having
a
more
special
engagement
around
this
to
to
then
reach
out
to
me
and
let's
work
on
arranging.
What's
appropriate.
B
See
that
teresa,
you
just
popped
your
hand
up.
Did
you
have
a
point?
You
would
like
to
remind
us
about.
T
Yes,
absolutely
certainly,
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
the
scope
of
authority
for
boards
and
whether
it's
within
their
scope
of
authority
to
be
weighing
in
on
on
that
kind
of
policy
decision.
Certainly,
members
of
the
boards
individually
are
welcome
to
come
in
as
individual
residents
of
the
community.
B
Thank
you
and
just
a
reminder
to
folks
as
you're
popping
up,
if
you
could
say
your
names
for
folks
who
are
maybe
just
listening,
that
was
our
wonderful
city
attorney
teresa
taylor,
tate.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
L
Thank
you,
nicole,
and
thanks
maris,
for
the
presentation
and
and
going
through
the
thorough
sort
of
update
on
this
master
plan.
My
question
has
to
sort
of
do
with
how
our
master,
how
this
master
plan
at
least
may
address,
or
look
to
reconcile
any
jurisdictional
overlap
or
gaps
between
boulder
police
department
and
maybe
cupd
or
the
county
sheriff,
where
we're
they're
interacting
in
our
city.
L
J
J
I
can
tell
you
chief
jokers,
has
the
same
values
and
visions
that
I
have
about
policing
and
we're
starting
this
police
academy
together,
which
also
will
bleed
into
the
county
as
well.
The
sheriff
has
just
contacted
me
saying
that
he
would
like
to
take
part
in
our
police
academy
concept.
We
also
have
mou's
with
the
county,
I'm
looking
forward
to
a
a
really
good
relationship
with
the
new
sheriff
when
he
comes
on
board
in
january,
we've
already
have
meetings
set
up
to
establish.
J
U
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
a
few
questions
concerning
first,
I
was
looking
at
the
workforce
diversity
and
I
really
appreciate
the
comment
that
you
made
maris
about
diversity
and
the
importance
of
that,
and
I
do
believe
that
you
know
diversity
is
one
of
the
ways
to
really
impact
the
community
and
make
a
difference.
But
my
question
to
you,
as
I
was
looking
over
the
report-
and
I
didn't
see
it,
and
maybe
I'm
just
missing
it.
What
does
that
really
mean?
U
J
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
It's
such
an
important
question
council
member
joseph.
We
will
have
a
very
robust,
recruiting
and
retaining
strategy
what
we
are
doing
right
now.
J
We
are
recruiting
in
historically
diverse
neighborhoods
in
the
region.
I
don't
know
if
you've
noticed,
we've
have
a
ton
of
marketing
on
buses
that
travel
through
our
region.
J
We
also
are
marketing
in
places
where
black
policing
institutions
are
are
also
have
advertisement
space.
So
we're
doing
that
as
well,
and
then
part
of
that
kalia
process
that
we
talked
about
part
of
that
accreditation
process
will
give
us
a
robust
recruiting
strategy.
J
And
so
that
is
a
good
indicator
that
what
we're
doing
in
boulder
is
actually
infiltrating
other
communities
and
we're
starting
to
see
not
exceptionally
young
candidates,
but
we're
actually
seeing
people
taking
this
position
as
second
careers,
because
they're
excited
in
the
direction
that
boulder
pd
is
going
in.
So
my
commitment
to
you
and
everybody
on
council
in
the
community
is
I'm
going
to
continue
to
aggressively
market
in
these
diverse
neighborhoods
to
ensure
that
we
are
getting
people
from
diverse
backgrounds
and
diverse
perspectives,
which
is
important
as
well.
U
Thank
you
for
that.
I
really
appreciate
hearing
that
and
I
welcome
that,
and
I
support
that
as
well.
The
only
thing
is,
I
appreciate
you
mentioning
it,
but
I
hope
that
you
know
it's
seen
somewhere
in
a
report.
There
is
a
metrics,
you
know
just
saying
things
is
not
enough.
If
we
want
to
make
a
difference
in
the
community,
we
have
to
show
the
community
that
we're
doing
the
work
and
it
doesn't
take
years
to
hire
someone.
U
You
know,
police
officers
are
amazing.
They
they
protect
our
community,
but
nonetheless
it's
not
it's
not
impossible
to
find
police
people
to
become
police
officers.
I
think
we
have
to
do
a
better
job
in
our
community
at
making
people
feel
welcome
and
also
at
inviting
them
in.
So
if
you
can't
find
police
officers
of
color,
maybe
we
need
to
look
internally
and
say
why.
Why
is
it
so
difficult?
U
U
J
I
think
you're
referring
councilman
joseph
to
our
benchmark
cities-
data,
yes
yeah.
Those
are
actually
graphs
that
we've
taken
from
those
cities,
specifically
in
a
report
that
they
publish
every
year.
J
So
they
try
to
control
for
as
many
variables
as
possible,
but
I
would
not
indicate
that
those
benchmark
cities
are
exclusive.
I
mean
there's
differences,
obviously,
as
you
go
down
each
of
those
cities,
but
we
at
least
try
to
control
for
as
many
variables
as
possible.
P
And
I'll
just
add
on
to
what
the
chief
said,
council,
member
joseph
I'm
assuming
you're,
referring
to
figure
four
and
figure
five
in
the
draft
plan
and
in
the
case
of
figure
four,
it's
it's
comparing
as
a
the
the
police
department
budget
as
a
percentage
of
city
budget
and
so
those
percentages,
I
mean
because
there
might
be
some
cities
where
the
overall
city
has
a
bigger
or
smaller
budget
than
ours
right.
P
But
it's
really
it's
controlling
for
some
of
those
size
differences
because
it's
com,
it's
the
percentage
of
the
budget,
not
the
total
dollars
and
in
the
case
of
figure
five.
That
is
a
per
capita
rate.
So
that's
again
adjusting
for
the
the
different
sizes
as
they
vary
among
the
cities.
There.
B
All
right:
well,
let's
maybe
move
into
just
some
of
the
feedback
that
staff
has
asked
us
for
about
this
plan
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
first
just
to
kind
of
collect
things
under
similar
umbrellas.
B
B
M
So
I
would
say
that
these
are
the
things
that
I
loved
about
it.
The
values
section
was
really
well
put.
I
like
the
value
session
section
very
much.
I
liked
the
focus,
the
the
focus
areas
I
thought
were
great.
M
I
love
the
way
you
said
it:
a
trusted
partner
in
racial
equity
and
in
modeling
transparency
and
accountability,
and
also
a
leader
in
preventing
and
reducing
crime.
So
to
me,
that's
taking
all
the
different
sides,
let's
say
the
two
sides
so
to
speak
and
they're
bringing
them
together,
which
I
think
would
make
great
success.
I
think
that
is
a
way
for
great
success
for
for
a
police
department.
M
M
I
loved
now
I'm
going
to
tell
you
my
favorite
strategy,
so
you
have
13
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
my
top
strategies,
real,
quick,
I'm
not
going
to
read
them
over.
Don't
worry
everybody.
First
of
all
number
one
was
employee
wellness.
I
have
never
thought
about
the
things
that
you
wrote
in
that
master
plan
in
terms
of
the
high
suicide
rate
and
anxiety
and
depression,
and
I'm
so
glad
that
you
are
doing
this
and
I
never
thought
about
how
it
affects
job
performance,
and
so
that's
one
of
my
top
favorites
in
terms
of
strategies.
M
I,
like
the
alternative
responses.
We
all
know
about
those
the
co-response
teams
and
cert
team
in
the
hot
team.
I'm
excited
about
recruiting
diversity.
I
noticed
that
you
said
I
appreciated
what
jimmy
said
actually
that
how
seriously
we
need
to
take
this.
Thank
you
juni
for
sharing
that,
and
I
was
really
happy
to
see
that
25,
whereas
12
of
the
us,
I
guess,
are
women
police
officers
here,
it
said
in
your
plan,
25
of
44,
new
police
officer,
hires
have
been
women,
and
so
that
is
exciting.
M
If
that
could
be
our
culture
in
this
police
department,
I
think
that
that
would
be
great.
I
you
didn't
speak
much
about
abel
able,
but
I
was
much
very
interested
in
that
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
take
a
second
to
tell
us
what
able
is.
J
Absolutely
council,
member
weiner
abel,
comes
to
us
from
georgetown
university
and
it's
a
comprehensive
training
program
that,
when
a
police
officer
is
really
needing
assistance
from
another
police
officer
to
disengage
or
de-escalate
from
a
bad
situation
that
that
police
officer
knows
how
to
do
that
and
is
trained
and
can
intervene
before
bad
police
community
interactions
occur
in
the
first
place.
J
We're
excited
because
preliminarily
this
able
training
looks
like
it's
having
major
implications
in
policing.
I
know
the
attorney
general
is
putting
his
weight
behind
able
training
and
I'm
hoping
to
do
some
level
of
an
evaluation
on
the
able
training
when
we
started
here.
So
I'm
trying
to
get
pre
and
post
perceptions,
and
hopefully
we'll
have
another
evidence-based
strategy
that
maybe
we
publish
and
and
really.
J
How
this
works,
but
I'm
excited
about
bringing
that
training,
because
I
do
think
it's
needed
police
officers
get
stressed
and
having
another
officer
there
to
intervene
before
things
get
bad
is
really
shows
promise
across
the
country.
M
I
mean
what
it
said
in
your
in
the
master
plan
was
that
I
I
said
that
helps
prevent
police
misconduct
and
police
mistakes,
and
so
it
also,
I
think,
pushes
against
what
is
now.
You
know
a
lot
of
different
departments
across
the
country
have,
is
you
know
the
wrong
kind
of
police
culture
where
you
have
that?
Isn't
there
some
sort
of
a
curtain?
What's
the
phrase
with
the
curtain,
somebody
knows
it
or
you
can't
get
beyond.
A
M
No
not
sure,
but
anyway,
I
can't
think
of
it
now,
but
so
this
seems
to
be
like
the
opposite
of
that,
where
we
can
really
just
help,
they
can
hel
police
officers
helping
each
other
to
be
the
best
that
they
can
be
and
also
like.
You
said
to
stop
things
from.
M
You
know
bad
things
from
happening
before
they
happen.
So
I
think
that's
great
and
that's
what
I
have
thank.
B
You
tara,
thank
you
chief,
all
right
again
kind
of
focused
on
things
that
things
that
you
appreciated
want
to
see
carried
forward
as
the
plan
evolves
council
member
folkerts
up
next.
O
Thank
you
like
tara,
I
really
thought
that
the
list
of
values
that
was
laid
out
was
pretty
exceptional
for,
and
you
know
the
fitting
the
strategies
to
those
values,
I
think,
is
really
important
it
to
me.
There
felt
like
there
weren't
there
was
some.
O
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
a
little
bit
more
imagining
around
how
we
can
have
more
strategies
to
express
those
values
it.
I
think
that
that
is
an
area
that
I
could
see
a
slight
improvement.
One
of
the
other
things
I
wanted
to
bring
up
it's,
not
necessarily
in
the
plan,
but
that
I
am
really
excited
about.
O
When
I
dove
deeper
into
the
benchmark
study.
There
are
so
many
areas
that
I
think
our
police
department
is
doing
a
really
excellent
job
at
you
know,
beyond
body-worn
cameras
and
sort
of
the
high
percentage
of
women
in
policing
that
compared
to
our
peer
cities,
the
focus
on
training
that
we
have,
I
think,
is
really
excellent.
They
showed
us
stronger.
O
You
know
that
spending
more
per
officer
on
making
sure
that
everyone's
really
highly
trained,
and
then
we
were
one
of
the
top
in
terms
of
recruiting
the
highest
classes
of
graduates,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
send
my
appreciation
for
those
things.
L
Nicole,
it's
just
matt,
you
know
no
formalities,
but
I
appreciate
that.
Well,
so
I
you
know
I
because
tara
and
lauren
went
before
me.
They
certainly
hit
some
high
marks,
but
but
just
so
that
there's
maybe
some
consistency
or
you
get
a
sense
of
a
heat
map
of
things
that
are
thematic.
Maybe
among
us
certainly
that
again,
like
lauren,
said
the
list
of
values
I
thought
was
really
robust
and
certainly
followed
by
those
values.
Is
the
wellness
focus?
L
It's
something
that
I
think
all
our
first
responders
need
to
be
doing,
especially
in
these
times,
and
so
I
think
it's
just
critically
important,
and
it
also
then
leads
into
the
retention
of
making
sure
that
the
good
people
we
have
stay
so
so
thank
you
for
for
really
leaning
hard
into
that,
and
it's
one
of
those
things
that
doesn't
immediately
give
you
it
doesn't
give
you
return
on
investment
immediately,
it's
one
of
those
that
it's
the
long
game,
and
so
thank
you
for
thinking
of
that,
because
often
it's
it's
easy
to
want
to
just
think
about
the
stuff
that
gives
you
immediate
gratification
and
easy
measurable,
so
so
that
long
game
is
really
important
for
for
our
police
officers,
long
term
and
then
really
sort
of
closing
the
loop
on
the
wellness.
L
I
really
like
the
I
really
like
the
fact
that
we,
you
know
having
the
academy
and
cu
is
going
to
be
involved
as
well
as
the
the
county
is
looking
to
be
involved.
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
go
after
trying
to
take
an
exempt
exemplary
leadership
position
with
regards
to
policing
in
this
community
as
an
example
for
others,
then
we
need
to
be
recruiting
and
training
them
from
the
beginning
to
meet
those
standards.
So
so
I
think
that
closing
that
loop
is
really
important,
so
I
appreciate
you
thinking
of
that
holistically.
J
I
I
do
think
that,
unfortunately,
since
I've
been
here
when
officers
go
to
different
academies
across
the
state,
they
are
all
on
differing
levels
and
we
spend
a
lot
of
time,
unfortunately,
remediating
or
retraining
skills
to
meet
the
city's
values,
and
that
just
is
not
acceptable
to
me,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
get
good
candidates,
we
continue
with
the
values
of
the
city
and
the
values
of
this
police
department
and
so
we're
all
on
the
same
page
with
everything
that's
in
the
master
plan,
and
I
really
do
think
that
will
just
be
a
game
changer
with
police
culture,
and
I
can
tell
you
when
I
first
got
here,
to
see
some
of
the
the
techniques
that
some
of
these
academies
employ.
J
Really
scared
me
to
death
and
so
having
our
own
academy
with
our
own
values
and
community
involvement
to
me
is
critical.
I
Your
pro
tem
friend
I'm
with
matt,
you
just
call
me
rachel.
I
I
since
we're
breaking
it
up
this
way,
I
didn't
want
to
be
silent
for
the
compliments
and
then
raise
my
hand
for
you
know
what
could
we
do?
More
of
so,
I
will
just
say
that
I
I
support
everything
that
everyone
else
has
said,
and
I
think
you
know
all
of
the
new
strategies
are
are
good
ones
and
going
in
the
right
direction.
I
don't
have
a
criticism
of
any
of
them,
so
thanks
good
work.
B
Thanks
and
I
will
just
add
mine
at
the
end
here-
I
really
appreciate
the
the
language
around
being
proactive
about.
You
know,
working
with
other
departments
that,
to
use
a
phrase,
I've
heard
you
say
before
teeth
have
better
lovers
to
pull
in
addressing
some
of
these
problems,
and
I
really
appreciated
it
just
sort
of
the
sense
in
reading
it
that
you
know,
by
the
time
somebody's
having
an
interaction
with
the
police.
B
There
are
often
many
systems
that
have
failed
them
along
the
way
right,
but
there
are
multiple
places
to
intervene
before
it
gets
to
a
crisis
or
emergency
situation.
So
I
appreciated
that
perspective.
I
am
I'm
very
grateful
for
the
work
of
growing
up
boulder
and
my
emotion,
who
worked
together
to
get
some
really
great
youth
engagement
feedback,
and
hopefully,
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
read
that
it
was.
B
It
was
really,
you
know,
good
good
feedback
from
youth,
and
I
like
the
focus
on
building
relationships
outside
of
emergency
in
crisis
situations.
I
think
you
know,
as
long
as
we
can
be
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
some
relationships
have
more
broken
trust
than
others
and
we'll
need
to
start
at
a
different
place.
I
think
it's.
It's
really.
You
know
good
to
go
in
with
that
perspective
that
we
ought
to
be
having.
We
ought
to
not
just
be
showing
up
in
crisis
kind
of
kinds
of
situations
all
right.
B
Well,
why
don't?
We
switch
gears
now
and
just
talk
a
little
bit.
Hopefully
that's
giving
you
some
feedback
chief
around
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
know
are
really
coming
out
as
I'm
shining
lights
lights
and
these
in
the
document
and
let's
talk
about
what
changes
folks
would
like
to
see
staff
consider,
as
this
goes
into
the
next
engagement
period
and
beyond
and
again
we'll
get
to
the
engagement
process
after
this
next
discussion.
So
what
are
the
things
that
that
you
would
like
to
see
be
a
little
bit
different
in
the
plan.
O
I
love
going
first
okay,
so
I
am.
O
I
think
probably
the
first
thing
that
struck
me
about
the
plan
that
seemed
a
little
different
from
some
of
the
other
master
plans
that
we
see
is
just
the
amount
of
it
that
is
focused
on
revenue
and
or
funding
to
me
that
felt
it
was
just
an
interest
you
know.
Typically,
I
think
I
think,
of
these
long-term
plans
as
being
really
aspirational.
O
What
can
we
hope
to
achieve
in
15
years
and
the
tone
didn't
capture
that
in
a
lot
of
areas,
so
that's
just
kind
of
like
overall
I
I
really
want
this
document
to
be
like
a
guiding
light
for
us
and,
while
you
know
all
departments
are
faced
with
revenue
challenges
and
meeting
these
plans,
we
can't
like
start
with
that,
being
our
focus.
O
O
Sort
of
oh
well,
I'm
wondering
how
we
evaluate
our
performance
on
a
number
of
things
or
like
where
the
check-ins
are
with
the
public.
What
sort
of
yeah
goals
are
we
setting
and
how
are
we
re-evaluating
as
we
move
forward
one
of
the
areas
where
I
was
particularly
interested
in
seeing
that
was
areas
involving
changing
new
technology?
O
There's
a
couple
of
areas
where
it
might
be
nice
to
have
a
little
bit
more
data
information
regarding
how
officers
are
spending
time
like
their
time.
Currently,
I
know
that
there
was
a
list.
There
was
a
percentage
of
how
much
it
is
in
response
to
calls,
but
it
might
be
interesting
to
have
more
information
around
what
types
of
calls
or
what
kinds
of
incidents
are
being
responded
to
along
with
what
our
response
times
are,
and
trends.
O
Under
transparency
and
stop
and
arrest
and
use
of
force
data,
there's
mention
of
a
report.
That's
going
to
be
done,
and
I
I'm
really
interested
to
see
that
move
forward.
O
It
also
seems
like
that
might
be
another
one
of
those
items
that
could
be
a
recurring
item
that
we
might
and-
and
so
maybe
this
plan
could
set
forth
an
idea
of
what
kind
you
know
what
kind
of
timeline
for
that
recurrence
makes
sense.
O
J
You
council,
member
folkers.
I
thank
you
for
those
suggestions.
I
agree
with
all
of
them
and
they're
all
very
doable
and
we
can
include
in
the
master
plan.
I
Lauren
I
did
like,
I
think
we
simultaneously
raised
hands,
so
I
wasn't
trying
to
make
you
go
first
or
I
don't
think
anybody
was
so
thanks
for
taking
that
for
the
team.
Again,
I
do
agree
with
lauren,
especially
on
the
the
first
point
of
sort
of
what
I'm
used
to
seeing
in
master
plans
during
my
tenure.
So
far,
and
often
there's
like
a
you
know,
here's
our
our,
I
don't
know
silver
gold,
platinum
level,
things
that
we're
shooting
for
and
we're
invited
to
give
input
on.
I
You
know
where
we
want
to
kind
of
land
what
what
you
know,
what
we're
shooting
for
sort
of-
and
I
didn't
I
didn't
feel
like
we
were
teed
up
tonight
and
maybe
that'll
come
in
the
final.
But
often
the
drafts
have
a
little
bit
more
specific
feedback
that
they're
asking
council
members
to
give
direction
on
in
the
community,
so
that
sort
of
felt
a
little
bit
lacking
in
in
sort
of
the
feedback
that
we're
being
asked
for
and
and
what
is
our
aspirational
goal
here
for
policing?
And
so
that's
my
second.
I
My
second
point
is
just
broad,
and
I
know
that
sometimes
when
we
give
feedback
like
this,
it
can
create
defensiveness
and
I
hope
it
doesn't.
I
think
that
we
have
an
outstanding
police
department.
I
am
not
naive.
I
don't
believe
that
societies
can
can
exist
without
a
criminal
justice
system.
So
I'm
not.
I
You
know
I'm
not
trying
to
overshoot
here
with
this
feedback
and
if
I
really
step
back
and
think,
but
you
know
we're
reimagining
policing,
like
I
used
to
used
to
do
that
with
my
students
when
I
taught
criminal
justice
like
you
know
what
what
would
you
do
if
you
wanted
to
make
this
a
job,
if
you
for
those
of
you
who
are
going
into
policing
where,
where
you're
going
to
be
happier
like
most
people,
want
to
go
into
this
job,
I
I
think
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
police
department
would
agree
for,
for
noble
reasons
and
to
be
helpers
and
we're
at
a
place
now
in
policing,
where
there's
such
a
lack
of
trust,
that
if
we
were
to
reimagine
it,
how
do
we,
you
know,
really
build
those
bridges
where,
where
police
officers
are
are
happier
on
the
job
and
the
community
members
are
trusting,
and
so
I
just
wonder
if
we've
gone
broadly
enough
and
reimagining,
you
know
we're
doing
this
once
every
10
years.
I
We're
at
this
pivotal
moment
again.
I
think
all
the
steps
we're
doing
are
great,
but
I
don't
know
like
if
you
know
if
we
are
at
a
point
where
and
and
I
understand
we
have
societal
constraints
but
like
if
I'm
driving
with
a
broken
tail
light.
I've
said
this
before,
like.
I
think
the
helpful
thing
is
a
new
tail
light
rather
than
a
ticket
and
like
how
do
we
get
to
that
society?
How
do
we
reimagine?
I
You
know
the
place
where
putting
aside
sort
of
the
the
really
critical
moments
in
policing,
which
we're
all
deeply
grateful
for
the
police
presence
when
there's
a
a
serious
felony
happening
or
anything
traumatic
to
us.
So
not
dismissing
it.
You
know
it's
it's.
I
It
can
never
be
all
unicorns
and
rainbows
and
sunshine
and
policing
I
get
that.
But
if
we
are
reimagining
again
have
we
have
we
sort
of
taken
it
down
to
the
studs
far
enough
that
we
are
building
it
back
up
in
a
way
that
it
is
most
beneficial
to
those
doing
the
work
and
to
the
community?
And
I
don't
know
how
to
put
a
bow
around
that
in
terms
of
what
I'm
asking
for
the
planning
process
to
do.
But
that's
what
I
would
hope
for
as
part
of
this
process.
Thanks.
J
Appreciate
that
and
I'd
love
the
opportunity
to
and
talk
to
you
further
about
that
I
am
very
open-minded
and
not
defensive
at
all,
and
I
would
love
to
sit
down
and
talk
with
you
about
what
you're
seeing
and
see
if
we
can
make
it
happen.
L
Thank
you,
nicole
yeah.
You
know
looking
through
this.
What
what
jumped
out
to
me
a
bit
was
with
regards
to
community
engagement,
and
specifically,
I
really
would
like
to
see
a
much
stronger
commitment
and
set
of
actions
and
efforts
with
regards
to
how
we
engage
communities
of
color
and
and
those
that
are
disproportionately
impact
by
law
enforcement
practices
in
our
criminal
justice
system
and
because
you
know
and
words
matter
so
so
much
in
this
aspect
and
rachel
used
really
two
key
words.
L
L
L
In
fact,
it's
one
of
to
me
one
of
the
core
reasons
why
this
master
plan
is
here
for
the
next
10
years
is,
I
want
to
see
the
data
show
that
that
engagement
has
absolutely
done
great
work
and
strides
to
rebuild
trust
in
those
communities,
so
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
greater
emphasis
on
that,
so
we
know
that
our
words
can
then
be
backed
up
by
the
actions
that
we
take
place
that
will
take
place
as
a
result
of
this
master
plan.
Thank
you.
R
B
All
right,
I'm
going
to
offer
my
feedback
then,
and
if
anybody
else,
tara
ortini,
I
think,
if
you
all
have
some
some
additional
thoughts
after
feel
free
to
raise
your
hands.
I
don't
need
to
be
the
last
to
speak
here,
so
I'm
just
gonna
echo.
What
a
couple
of
other
folks
have
mentioned
chief,
that
I
would
really
love
to
see
some
information
about
what
are
the
measures
of
success
that
we're
looking
for
right?
What
is
success?
How
do
we
define
it?
B
What
are
the
intended
outcomes
of
this
work
and
how
are
we
going
to
know
if
they've
been
achieved,
particularly
with
regard
to
some
of
the
more
reform
oriented
components
right?
How
do
we
know
that
we're
having
that
difference?
What
are
what
measures
are
we
tracking.
B
The
other
thing
that
I
would
love
to
see
is
just
to
be
really
specific
in
the
plan
about
how
feedback
from
different
groups
informed
the
strategies.
So
where
did
the
time
and
the
courage
and
the
emotional
energy
that
community
members
put
into
this
process
create
change
in
the
plan
like
where?
Where
can
we
look
and
see?
Oh,
that's
because
you
know
a
group
told
us
that
this
was
what
we
wanted
right.
I
think
there
was
a
reference
to
something
that
had
been
modified
based
on
the
youth
feedback.
B
But
what
exactly
was
that
right?
Where
can
we
see
that
that
impact?
I
think
that
that
would
be
helpful
as
we're
moving
forward.
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
would
love
to
see
is
just
a
little
more
specificity
with
regard
to
some
of
the
terms
used.
So
what
does
it
mean,
for
example,
to
be
free
of
crime,
because
I
think
that
some
of
these
terms,
especially
within
within
this
within
policing,
and
how
we
think
about
policing
from
different
perspectives,
they
mean
different
things
to
different
people.
B
So
how
can
we
be
more
specific
about
those
terms
when
we're
talking
about
all
community
members?
Who
are
we
talking
about
there
right?
Who
are
the
folks
that
are
included
in
all
community
members
when
we're
talking
about
what
other,
what
other
organizations
and
alternative
resources
that
we'll
be
working
with?
What
are
those
groups
right?
How
do
we
have
that
information
just
so
that
we're
all
starting
from
the
same
pool
of
understanding
and
knowledge?
B
I
think
you
know
the
other
thing
that
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised
to
not
see
in
there,
because
I
know
I've
heard
you
talk
about
it
and
I
know
we've
talked
about.
It
is
really
the
growing
threat
from
white
supremacy
from
christian
nationalism
from
fascism
that
we
see
around
the
country
and-
and
even
here
you
know
in
our
own
community.
I
think
you
know
these.
B
These
are
things
I
especially
I'm
concerned
about,
and
I
would
really
like
to
know
you
know,
as
our
as
our
country
is
moving
in
this
authoritarian
direction,
what
measures
are
being
taken
right?
How
is
the
police
department
thinking
about
this,
and
you
know
just
just
also,
you
know
coming
from
a
place
of
not
not
intending
to
create
defensiveness
just
to
share
concerns
openly.
B
I
think,
especially,
you
know
within
authoritarian
countries,
it
does
end
up
being
the
police,
the
law
enforcement
that
enacts
a
lot
of
those
policies.
So
you
know
what
is
the
thinking
there
to
kind
of
protect
our
community
as
we
are
moving
in
this
direction
at
a
national
level?
B
What
are
I
because
I
know
you
all
are
thinking
about
it,
so
you
know
what
how
how
can
we
fit
this
in
into
our
thinking
about
policing
and
our
master
plan
for
the
next
10
to
15
years,
knowing
it's
out
there
and
and
we're
going
to
be
up
against
it,
and
then
you
know
the
other
thing
that
that
I
felt
I
would
really
love
to
see,
there's
a
lot
of
data
about
crime
statistics
and
where
we
stand
in
terms
of
spending
and
things
like
that,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
data
regarding
some
of
the
racial
disparities
that
exist
even
in
our
own
community.
B
I
think
you
know
you
referenced
george
floyd
and
his
murder
and
we've
had
events
even
in
our
own
community
right
where,
where,
where
folks
have
been,
you
know,
put
at
risk
felt
at
risk
from
our
policing
policies,
and
so
can
we
just
kind
of
be
open
about
that
in
in
our
discussion
of
the
types
of
reforms
that
we
want
to
make
and
where
it
is
that
we're
coming
from
the
I
you
know,
I'm
sure
that
probably
most
of
you,
because
I
sent
it
out
via
hotline
I've,
seen
right
now
the
vera
institute
report
with
the
d.a,
where
you
know,
they're,
really
presenting
a
lot
of
data
on
racial
disparities
in
the
criminal
justice
system
here
in
boulder
county
you
know,
can
we
get
some
of
that
as
just
thinking
about
benchmarks,
right
for
where
we're
starting
and
just
recognizing
that
you
know
we
have,
we
have
places
to
go
right.
B
We
we
have
areas
for
improvement,
but
I
think
you
know
making
it
clear
that
we
share
this
understanding
of
where
we're
starting
from
and
given
that
there
is
a
lot
of
data
out
there
now
from
this
vera
institute
report.
How
do
we
move
forward
from
that?
How
do
we
include
that
in
this
discussion,
because
now
I
hear
very
much
your
desire
for
reforming
policing
and
and
how
can
we
kind
of
how
do
we
showcase
where
we
are
with
data?
B
You
know
the
same
way
that
that
you've
been
showcasing
some
of
the
crime
data
and
the
spending
and
training,
and
all
of
that
as
well.
So
I
would
really
love
to
see
some
of
that
in
there
too,
because
it
to
me
that
is
a
really
central
component
of
reimagining
policing
is
thinking
about
how
we're
overcoming
these
disparities
that
exist.
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
dr
spear.
You
know
I'm
passionate
about
transparency
and
data
sets,
and
it
is
my
hope,
before
this
master
plan
is,
is
approved
that
we
start
to
see
some
of
those
reports
that
we'll
have
researchers
be
looking
at
our
data.
Your
comment
about
the
white
supremacists
is
is
spot
on,
and
this
is
the
reason
I'm
really
passionate
about
policing
is.
J
I
do
believe
that
if
you
look
across
the
world
right
now,
policing
may
be
the
last
line
for
military
or
dictatorship,
and
this
is
why
I'm
so
passionate
about
policing,
because,
as
you
can
see
on
january
6,
it
was
the
police
that
held
that
line,
or
we
could
be
looking
at
a
totally
different
situation
in
this
country.
That's
why
I'm
so
passionate
about
ensuring
we
have
good
partnerships
outside
of
the
police
department
to.
J
In
those
threats-
and
I
do
think
they
are
real
and
I
think
they
will
continue
and
that's
why
I
want
to
build
up
the
best
constitutional
police
force
possible
to
thwart
those
threats,
because
I
think
you're
spot
on
dr
spear
that
we
have
a
lot
of
concerns
that
are
right
outside
of
our
community
and
even.
B
T
M
Agree
with
rachel
on
this
one
specific
thing,
I'm
I
feel
like
trust,
is
the
most
important
thing
for
everybody
in
the
community
and
and
I've
been
lucky
that
I've
never
had
a
bad
experience
with
a
police
officer
unless
I've
actually
done
something
wrong,
which
I've
done
a
few
things
wrong.
M
I'm
not
going
to
tell
the
community
what
they
are,
but
they
might
or
might
not
involve
speeding,
but
anyway,
just
kidding,
but
I
will
say
that
the
most
important
thing
to
me
would
be
to
to
do
whatever
it
takes
to
win
back
the
trust
of
every
community
member
that
the
police
want
what
is
best
for
everybody
and
what
is
best
for
each
individual
person
and
chief
harold.
I
know
that
that
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
to
you.
M
I
feel
like
we're
aligned
on
that,
and
so
in
that
respect
I
hope
that
and
my
council
colleagues
have
had
much
more
specific
things.
You
know
that
they
want
to
see
improve,
and
I
and
I
appreciate
the
specificity
of
it,
but
just
overall,
I'm
going
to
really
hope
that
in
the
ways
that
we
change
and
make
it
even
better
that
it
increases
the
trust
from
from
every
for
for
every
person
in
the
community
as
to
how
they
feel
about
our
our
police
department.
U
Thank
you
nicole.
I
have
to
say
the
more
I
listen
to
this
conversation.
The
more
stress
it
makes
me
actually
that's
one
of
the
hardest
conversation
to
have
on
council
and
as
you,
some
of
you
can
probably
tell
from
my
background
I
am
at
an
nlc
conference
and
today
I
participated
in
a
lot
of
the
race
and
equity
discussion
with
an
nlc.
U
And
policing
and
good
governance
is
something
that
we
talk
a
lot
about,
and
I
think
you
know
just
by
listening
to
some
of
the
comments.
I
think
some
of
us
could
really
really
use
some
education
and
this
idea
that
you
know
people
who
have
bad
interactions
in
our
system.
It's
because
of
their
behavior
is
inappropriate.
U
That's
the
first
thing,
but
what
I
want
to
say
about
the
the
master
plan.
Again,
we
are
where
we
are
as
part
of
this
process,
I
would
say
the
most
important
thing
is
community
engagement
and
community
engagement.
What
that
means
is
reaching
out
to
the
to
the
most
marginalized
and
reaching
out
to
people
who
are
really
negatively
affected
by
policing.
U
We
know
right-
and
I
think,
even
today,
in
today's
discussion
we
do
talk
about
marginalized
people,
marginalized
people
come
in
every
race
right
and
it's
often
concentrated
in
the
lower
classes,
and
we
also
that
includes
people
of
color,
and
it's
very
important
that
we
say
that,
and
it
also
include
lgbtqai
people,
that's
very
important
that
we
name
them.
It's
not
just
broad
brushing,
so
I
think
again
having
ensuring
that
people
are.
These
people
are
included
as
part
of
the
discussion
and
they
are
at
the
forefront
of
the
policies
that
we
put
forward.
U
U
B
Thank
you,
jenny
for
sharing
that
and
thank
you
for
naming
how
you're
feeling
and
how
others
in
our
community
are
feeling,
and
I
yeah
help.
I
would
love
for
us
all
to
consider
the
ways
that
we
can
show
up
better
in
these
conversations
for
each
other
and
for
our
community
as
well.
M
B
So
juni
just
opened
up
the
discussion
around
engagement
and
so
can
we
kind
of
switch
over
there.
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
we
would
like
to
see
as
a
part
of
this
final
engagement
process-
and
I
just
heard
juni
name
bringing
in
folks
from
the
lgbt
community
from
lower
income
communities
from
communities
of
color
and
folks
with
intersecting
identities
and
really
lifting
up
their
feedback.
B
I'm
wondering
if,
if
there
can
be
a
way
in
in
the
engagement
process
and
when
this
comes
back
to
us,
chief
of
really
centering
some
of
that
feedback
that
we
are
getting
from
folks
and
and
just
knowing
how
how
people
were
engaged.
Who
is
missing
from
those
conversations,
I
think,
is
an
important
point
as
well,
but
so
folks,
who
have
other
feedback
on
engagement.
B
R
O
Thank
you.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
really
like
to
see
in
terms
of
information
that
we
could
gather
moving
forward
would
be
what
the
community's
like
a
prioritization
of
some
of
these
strategies
that
are
being
proposed,
because
I
think
that
it's
really
important
you
know
kind
of,
as
I
alluded
to
before.
Generally,
we
don't
we're
not
able
to
fund
the
full
vision
of
plans,
sort
of
across
departments
in
our
city,
and
so
knowing
what
people
are
most
excited
about.
O
I
think
would
be
really
important,
and
I
know
that
that
can
be
difficult
to
capture,
sometimes
data
around
demographics
with
that.
But
if
we
can,
I
would
really
appreciate
that
as
well.
T
L
Yeah,
I
will
maybe
just
point
out
just
I.
I
do
think
that
you
know
there's
been
a.
I
think,
in
regards
to
some
of
the
setup
for
this
there
has.
There
has
been
a
a
a
pretty
good
effort
with
regards
to
engagement,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
statements
of
what
we
can
do
better
is
not
in
the
vacuum
of
the
good
work
that
has
been
done,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
we
contextualize
that
a
little
bit
so
so
I
just.
L
I
just
think
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
contextualized
well
just
based
on
what
I've
seen
from
the
subcommittee
group.
I
think
that
there's
been
some
good
outreach
there.
More
can
always
be
done
where
we
focus
it,
I
think
is
critical
as
lauren
is
putting
on
there,
but
but
let's
not
discount
the
work.
L
That's
been
done
to
elevate
the
conversation
to
a
place
where
now
we
can
sort
of
have
a
more
granular
conversation
and
or
tactical
approach
on
how
we
can
do
better
and
make
sure
that
the
outcomes
we're
desiring
actually
reach
on
those
goals.
B
I
I
was
just
going
to
sort
of
ask
a
follow-up
question
similar
to
what
matt
was
getting
at
there,
which
is
you
know.
I
have
not
been
on
the
sub
community
or
subcommittee
policy
subcommittee
that
long,
but
I
was
actually
impressed
when
I
took
the
baton
from
junior
and
bob
on
on
the
engagement
with
vulnerable
communities
that
had
been
done
and
and
that
there
was
some
prioritization
there.
So
I
wanted
to
see
if
wendy
maybe
wanted
to
explain
where
we
have
been
and
then
maybe
we
can
clarify
what
we're
asking
for.
P
Thanks
rachel,
so
I
I
will
do
a
kind
of
quick
rundown
here
of
of
kind
of
the
highlights
of
the
engagement
windows
and
some
of
the
specific
efforts
so
far
to
to
add
that
context
that
you
and
matt
have
both
mentioned.
P
So
there
are,
of
course,
the
very
the
broader
general
community
things
that
are
usually
done
in
terms
of
things
like
press
releases
and
social
media
posts
in
english
and
spanish
to
raise
awareness
about
the
opportunities
we've
used.
Our
racial
equity
list
serve
so
that
has
been
helpful.
P
We
recruited
people
with
lived
experience
in
homelessness,
and
we
have
met
multiple
times
throughout
this
planning
process
with
them.
I
will
also
note
that
you
know
in
the
vein
of
really
best
practices
and
what
we've
learned
in
our
city
about
racial
equity
planning
and
engagement.
P
We
tried
to
take
into
consideration
where
we
might
be
asking
people
to
spend
some
significant
time
on
behalf
of
the
city
or
a
city
process,
and
the
discussion
that's
really
taken
place
in
both
the
racial
equity
and
engagement
worlds
about
you
know,
what's
the
role
of
compensation
or
stipends
or
or
other
related
things,
when
we're
asking
people
to
do
that,
and
so
for
some
of
those
groups,
then
we
have
made
arrangements
for
some
stipends
and
gift
cards
or
other
mechanisms
to
really
be
in
alignment
with
those
best
practices
and
recommendations
and
and
other
feedback
we've
heard
from
community
members,
particularly
community
members
of
color,
about
their
experiences
in
city
processes.
P
In
the
past
we
I'm
gonna.
Look
a
few
minutes
council
member
spear
did
note
the
work
of
growing
up
boulder
in
in
combination
with
my
emotion
healing,
which
really
led
a
very.
I
think
I
think
in
the
case
of
the
black
african-american
leadership
team,
as
well
as
the
latinx
leadership
team,
were
probably
the
first
planning
process
in
the
city
to
to
do
a
system
like
that,
and
so
similarly
you
know
the
city's
worked
with
gov
on
many
projects.
P
I'm
sorry
growing
up
boulder,
often
called
gov
on
many
projects
and
gub
really
took
it
a
step
further
with
this
project,
because
they
said,
I
think,
for
this
project.
Because
of
the
nature,
we
need
to
really
seek
out
some
youth
that
might
have
historical
experience,
justice
system,
which
might
be
part
of
systemic
historical
policing
practices
that
might
be
generational.
In
some
cases
it
was
a
very
trauma-informed
engagement
process.
It
also
emphasized
youth
of
color
and
youth,
who
had
experience
in
homelessness.
P
P
We're
working,
we've
started
reaching
out
to
nami
national
alliance
for
mental
illness,
our
local
boulder
county
chapter
and
and
we're
working
on
getting
a
representative
to
work
with
our
consultant
on
that
front.
P
P
We've
been
able
to
work
with
them
to
get
messaging
out
and
to
encourage
the
people
that
they
serve
to
participate,
boulder
housing
partners
and
looking
down
my
list
really
quickly
here
direct
outreach
by
a
member
of
our
core
team,
specifically
amy
kane.
P
You
know
cu
naropa,
families
of
color
colorado,
both
amy
and
I
have
engaged
with
showing
up
for
racial
justice
surge
and
we've
been
able
to
utilize
many
of
our
community
connectors,
including
nepali
our
nepali
community
connector
outreach
and,
in
addition
to
our
advisory
group
of
people
with
lived
experience
and
homelessness.
P
We
have
done
direct
engagement
at
boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless,
as
well
as
the
feed
forward
lunch
event
in
the
park.
So
I'll
stop
talking
now,
but
I
will
say
that
we've
made
some
efforts
and
but
of
course
it's
not
that
we
can't
do
more.
Nothing's,
perfect.
L
Thanks
the
sort
of
one
life
sort
of
last
those
last
pieces
on
my
list
was
given
the
impact
that
this
10-year
plan
will
have
and
the
pivot
that
we're
making
from
what
was
in
sort
of
the
previous
plan.
I
I
didn't
see
it
not
to
say
it
wasn't
there,
but
I'm
curious
about
you
know
like
a
five-year
check-in
on
this,
just
to
kind
of
get
that
a
process
update
on
where
we're
at,
and
I
don't
want
to
overload
staff.
L
I
mean
this
is
more
of
a
question
for
nuria,
with
regards
to
where
we
check
in
with
some
of
these
master
plans,
but
but
given
how
much
we're
really
moving
and
kind
of
trying
to
move
in
a
new
direction.
Here,
I
didn't
know
how
valuable
it'd
be
to
try
to
get
a
little
bit
of
a
intermediate
update,
just
to
sort
of
check
in
with
our
metrics
and
and
where
we
think
we're,
headed
and
any
course
corrections
that
may
be
needed
just
given
how
impactful
the
work
that
we're
doing
on
this
master
plan
is.
C
P
So,
first
of
all,
council
member
benjamin,
thank
you
for
that
question
and
really
what
all
of
us
should
be
doing
in
our
departments
as
part
of
our
strategic
plans,
our
master
plans.
We
should
be
doing
regular
updates
to
council
because
those
are
supposed
to
be
the
the
guiding
vision
for
the
department
right,
and
so
you
know
I
well.
P
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
chief
so
we're
I
guess
we're
having
multiple
people
speak
out
of
school
right
now,
but
I
would
say,
I'm
guessing
based
on
and
the
work
I've
done
with
the
chief.
I
can't
see
her
wanting
to
wait
five
years
to
update
council.
P
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
all
departments
you
know
that's
supposed
to
be
part
of
our
work
and-
and
it
might
not
be-
I
mean
there's
different
ways
to
do
this
right,
so
it
might
be
that
there's
a
section
of
it
that
has
more
focus.
You
know
at
certain
times.
P
It's
maybe
not
like
one
big
thing
all
at
once,
depending
on
the
plan
and
the
preferences
of
counsel
in
the
community,
but
that's
an
ongoing
process,
something
that
I
was
going
to
wait
for
the
right
opportunity
to
say,
but
this
this
might
be.
The
right
opportunity
is
that
several
of
our
council
members
have
really
mentioned
this
question
of
metrics,
which
is
a
great
question,
and
we.
What
we
purposely
did
at
this
stage,
was
that
folks,
who
folks,
who
made
it
to
the
very
end
of
the
draft
plan,
will
notice.
P
There's
like
one
sentence
of
of
language
there
that
is,
is
basically
like
well,
this
is
a
placeholder
for
implementation
and
I
think
what
we
we
should
have
said
there
is.
P
This
is
a
placeholder
for
development
of
implementation,
planning
and
metrics,
because
since
since
we
we
really
want
the
community's
actual
feedback
on
the
draft
plan,
and
we
want
to
really
genuinely
consider
you
know
the
possibility
that
we
might
need
to
change
some
things
or
add
some
things
or
do
some
things
differently
than
the
way
they're
described
right
now,
then
we
wanted
to
hold
that
space
really
for
for
landing
on
the
things
people
care
about
keeping
in
the
plan
or
adding
to
the
plan,
or
you
know
or
changing.
P
We
wanted
to
hold
that
space
so
that
we
could
develop
metrics
that
match
up
with
what's
going
to
end
up
in
the
plan,
so
that
was
probably
a
longer
answer
than
some
of
you
were
hoping
for.
But
I
thought
it
might
just
be
helpful
to
to
council
members
to
know
that.
C
Wendy's
point
I'll,
say
matt
that
I
hope
that
all
our
master
plans
check
in
right
master
plans
are
a
very
long
moment
in
time.
They
have
a
variety
and,
and
some
of
them
have.
This
is
where
the
vision
is,
and
we
constantly
check
back
right
because
in
fact
some
of
them
require
resources
from
time
to
time
or
some
frankly,
in
a
10-year
horizon
the
world
changes
in
vastly
different
ways,
I
think
of
a
technology
master
plan.
If
you
ask
for
10
years,
it's
ridiculous
because
the
technology
changes
so
quickly.
B
Okay,
all
right,
maybe
just
to
wrap
up
the
engagement
part.
I
would
like
to
just
make
a
couple
comments
about
engagement
and
then
can
I
come
to
you?
Is
that
okay,
all
right?
So
I
think
you
know,
with
with
regard
to
engagement,
the
perspective
that
one
of
the
perspectives
that
I
feel
like
is
is
missing.
A
bit
in
this
document
is
really
the
perspective
of
people
who
are
thinking
about
policing,
reform
from
a
civil
rights
perspective.
So
you
know,
I
think,
we've
heard
about
it
from
more
of
a
policing
perspective.
B
I'm
wondering
you
know
if
we
can
maybe
line
up
a
panel
of
say
national
experts
on
civil
rights
and
policing
reform,
who
could
maybe
have
a
we
could
have
a
forum
or
something
like
that
where,
where
we
can
come
and
really
just
hear
from
from
folks
who
have
a
a
different
perspective,
how
they
kind
of
see
us
stacking
up
and
from
a
national
level
too
right
like
where
does
boulder
fit
in
in
their
eyes.
B
In
terms
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
at
doing
as
we
reimagine
policing
relative
to
you
know
what
what
others
are
doing
relative
to
best
practices
from
a
civil
rights
perspective.
So
that
is
something
that
I
would
really
like
to
see.
I
don't
think
it's
you
know,
part
of
that
now.
I,
for
example,
would
would
really
love
to
have
some
folks
that
we
could.
B
We
could
ask
questions
to
you,
know
here
here
on
council
and
just
really
kind
of
get
that
that
feedback
and
the
other
thing
that
I'm
thinking
about
with
regard
to
engagement-
and
this
is
really
around
how
we,
how
we
can
use
this
last
stage
of
the
engagement
process
as
a
way
to
try
to
help
educate
the
community
that
isn't
so
impacted
by
bias
and
discrimination
in
our
criminal
justice
system
on
the
racism
and
the
classism
and
the
homophobia
and
transphobia
and
ableism
and
and
how
all
this
shows
up
right
and-
and
I
say
this
not
not-
that
it
only
shows
up
in
policing-
it's
it's
in
all
of
our
systems
right,
but
as
we're
talking
about
policing.
B
How
can
we
have
that
conversation
about
just
to
help?
People
understand
that
a
little
bit
more,
because
I
you
know
heard
tonight,
one
of
one
of
my
council
members
mentioned
that
you
know.
Even
our
conversation
here
has
not
felt
good.
It's
been,
you
know
stressful.
It's
been
hard
to
to
listen
to
us
and
and
as
again,
we
are
a
group
of
primarily
wealthy
white
straight
homeowners,
abled
homeowners.
How
can
we
have
these
discussions?
B
In
a
way
that
doesn't
make
things
worse
or
make
people
in
our
community
feel
worse,
who
may
have
some
different
perspectives
than
most
of
us
here.
So
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
I
would
just
love
to
think
about
in
the
engagement
process.
Is
that
how
how
are
we?
B
How
are
we
using
this
as
an
opportunity
to
spread
some
knowledge
about
some
of
the
reasons
for
reform,
and
then
I
would
also
be
really
curious
to
know
where,
where
have
things
kind
of
gone,
sideways
or
wrong
in
the
engagement
process,
so
are
there
groups
that
we
would
love
to
hear
from
who
haven't
wanted
to
engage
in
this
discussion
or
you
know,
maybe
they
started
and
then
declined
to
participate
along
the
way.
Why
is
that?
B
Who
did
we
not
do
a
good
job
of
engaging
and
how
can
we
do
better
and
how
can
moving
forward?
We
repair
some
of
the
harm
that
we
caused
by
excluding
them,
and
I
don't
mean
exclude
kind
of
intentionally
right.
I
think
it's.
It's
really
justin,
where
a
majority,
the
perspective
that
a
majority
of
us
are
coming
from,
is
you
know
we
we
are.
B
We
are
a
little
different
than
than
others
in
our
community,
and
how
can
we
make
sure
that,
as
we're
having
these
conversations,
we
are
doing
so
in
a
way
that
is
being
as
inclusive
as
we
possibly
can
and
that
you
know
we
are
able
to
move
forward
in
a
way
that
is
more
inclusive
than
exclusive.
I
T
B
Thank
you
so
yeah
I
mean
it
would
be.
It
would
be
for
me
really
informative
to
have
that,
because
I
I'm
not
an
expert
in
civil
rights.
I
do
not
have
that.
You
know
national
perspective.
It
is
you
know.
B
I
know
we
have
experts
in
policing
that
have
been
involved
in
this
process,
but
a
lot
of
the
reform
is
coming
from
the
civil
rights
experts,
and
so
you
know
do
we
have
maybe
somebody
from
the
aclu
who
could
come
and
talk
to
us
about
what
it
is
that
we
have
put
into
our
plan
and
how
it
looks
from
their
perspective.
B
I
think
if,
if
we
can
find
time
for
it,
it
would
be
amazing
to
have
that
as
a
council,
maybe
a
study
session
or
something
where
we
could
bring
some
folks
in
you
know,
chief.
If
there's
somebody
coming
in
from
the
policing
side,
you
know
who
could
kind
of
give
a
national
perspective
as
well
that
you
would
like
to
have
there.
B
I
C
Well,
and
I
think
I'd
want
to
talk
about
it
with
marist
as
well
and
just
to
see
like
how
to
bring
that
forward.
I
think
I
understand
what
the
request
is
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
looks
like
and
though,
and
then,
if
it's
intended
to
be
a
study
session
or
intended
to
be
a
formal
action,
then
we
probably
want
to
bring
that
to
cac
to
see
what
the
desire
is.
C
But
what
I
am
getting
nicole
and
please
let
me
know
if
I'm
wrong
is
how
do
we
continue
to
add
more
diversity
of
voice
to
the
process
and
in
your
case,
what
you're
looking
for
is
folks
that
are
working
and
perhaps
not
just
not
just
folks
that
are
coming
to
it
from
personal
lived
experience,
not
just
folks
that
are
coming
to
it,
obviously,
from
the
professional
policing
experience.
C
But
what
the
gap
that
you're
identifying
for
yourself
is.
What
does
that
look
like
from
folks
in
the
civil
rights
arena
and
have
we
brought
those
in
and
those
voices
in
and,
if
not,
could
we
then
add
those
voices
in
some
way
shape
or
form
and
the
some
way
shape
or
form?
Perhaps
I'd
like
to
talk
to
maris
a
little
bit
more
and
maybe
we
could
talk
offline
and
see
what
the
next
step
is
in
terms
of
thoughts
on
how
council
might
want
to
bring
that
in
or
not?
If
that's
all
right.
T
Theresa
taylor,
tate
city
attorney
not
correct,
but
but
certainly
one
of
the
things
we
would
be
thinking
about.
I
just
want
to
let
council
members
know.
One
of
the
things
we
would
be
thinking
about
is
elevating
one
voice
over
another,
and
so
certainly
we
would
want
to
include
them,
if
appropriate,
in
the
engagement
process,
but
want
to
include
them
in
a
way
that
is
equal
and
and
relative
to
every
other
voice.
That
is
engaged.
B
Yeah,
well,
I
would
love
to
just
hear
thoughts
on
how
how
how
we
could
implement
this,
just
because
it's
it's
an
area
of
expertise
that
I
feel
you
know
is,
I
I
at
least
am
lacking
and
would
really
appreciate
having
having
that
input
as
well.
B
M
M
M
Also
the
longer
you
talk
the
more
chance
there
is
you're
going
to
say
the
wrong
thing,
that's
for
sure,
but
I
did
I
do
at
the
in
the
bottom
of
my
heart,
just
deeply
apologize
juni
for
what
I've
said,
because
you
know
I
care
about
you
a
lot,
and
I
also
welcome
any
conversation,
how
I
can
always
understand
things
better,
learn
more
from
the
entire
community.
I
mean
that
so
just
email
me.
M
If
you
want
to
talk
and
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
B
Thanks
tara
and
I
think
to
one
of
the
things
that
I
appreciated
about
that
vera
institute
presentation
with
with
the
d.a
was
that
it
did
go
into
some
of
this
history
around
bias
and
discrimination
and
policing.
So
for
folks
who
are
interested-
and
hopefully
most
people
are
interested
in
willing
to
go
and
seek
out
that
information,
it
is
a
way
to
learn
a
bit
more
about
the
history.
There
too.
M
T
U
Thank
you.
I
didn't
want
tara
to
feel
that
your
apology
is
not
welcomed
in
and
thank
you
and
it's
not
about
me.
It's
about
the
community
and
and,
like
you
said
this
whole
thing
is
a
learning
process
for
you
and
also
a
learning
process
for
me
as
well
again,
I'm
still
learning
today
about
you
know
all
the
things
that
people
of
color
have
experienced
and
how
to
navigate
that.
It's
not
something
that
you
yourself
can
change.
U
B
Okay,
how
about
a
four-minute
break
because
we
are
hopelessly
behind
at
this
point
cac
man?
I
was
on
it
till
last
week.
So
it's
my
fault
too,
but
we
did
not
leave
quite
enough
time
for
all
this
discussion.
But
let's
take
a
four-minute
break.
Come
back
at
9,
15
and
head
into
our
streetlight
discussion,
dr
spear,
before.
J
You
break
yes,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
everybody.
Thank
you
for
reading
the
master
plan.
These
are
all
complex
issues
and
I
appreciate
your
attention
and
your
time
and
my
door
is
open.
I
hope
we
have
further
conversations
on
what
we
all
believe
is
reimagining
policing.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
tonight.
B
Thank
you
chief.
I
apologize
for
trying
to
rush
off
to
a
quick
break
without
acknowledging
the
time
and
effort
of
your
team
and
everybody
here
who's
put
this
together.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
being
with
us
and
thank
you
to
transportation
staff
for
hanging
in
9.
15.,
see
you
back.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
V
Director
of
transportation
and
mobility-
thank
you
for
having
us
at
this
late
hour.
So
tonight
we
will
be
discussing
the
city's
streetlight
acquisition
project.
I'm
here
tonight
with
my
colleagues
from
the
transportation
and
mobility
department
and
the
climate
initiatives
department
and
we'll
be
as
a
team
presenting
this
information
and
I'm
going
to
wait
for
the.
R
I
am
sorry
this
is
emily
here,
I'm
happy,
I
have
the
presentation
and
I
can
pull
that
up
for
you,
I'm
just
not
sure
how
in
zoom,
to
allow
you
to
share
your
screen.
Sorry
about
that.
W
V
All
right
perfect,
so,
as
I
mentioned,
we'll,
be
providing
an
update
on
the
street
light
acquisition
project
just
kind
of
for
broader
context.
The
city
has
roughly
5
000
street
lights,
600
are
owned
and
operated
by
the
city
and
the
rest
of
those
are
are
excels
and,
as
I
think
carolyn
mentioned,
the
excel
staff
team
is
here
tonight
to
help
answer
questions
so,
following
the
community
vote
in
2020
to
enter
back,
we
to
enter
back
into
franchise
with
excel
energy.
V
So
here
are
the
two
questions
we
have
for
council
and
I
believe
council
member
sphere
is
going
to
also
help
kind
of
frame.
The
questions
for
the
conversation
and
at
this
point,
I'd
like
to
just
introduce
the
team,
so
michael
gardner
sweeney,
is
here
from
the
transportation
mobility
department.
V
He's
the
overall
project
lead
lex
telecheck
is
an
electrical
engineer
with
our
climate
initiatives
department
and
he's
an
expert
on
excel's
assets
within
the
city
and
then
carolyn
elon
is
the
partnership
manager
for
the
energy
partnership
work
with
excel
energy,
and
she
will
be
providing
a
good
chunk
of
the
presentation
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
hand
it
off
over
to
carol.
Oh
and
sorry,
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
also
acknowledge
jonathan
cohn
is
here,
he's
the
director
of
climate
initiatives
and
sorry
jonathan,
but
I'll
hand
it
over
to
carolyn
now.
Thank
you.
W
Great,
thank
you
natalie
and
next
slide.
Please.
W
Right
after
I
I
joined
the
city
and
initially
innocently
asked
the
question:
hey,
how
come
the
city
still
hasn't,
converted
its
street
lights
to
led
and
that's
when
I
met
joe
paulson
who's
since
retired,
but
is
still
lending
his
amazing
expertise
and
street
lighting
systems
to
this
to
our
our
areas
and
our
part,
our
peer
communities-
and
I
just
learned
so
much
from
joe
about
really
how
utility
implemented
street
lights
really
work.
There
were
stories
about
cows-
I
won't
go
into
it
tonight,
but
it
was.
It
was
really
a
great
learning
experience.
W
W
As
natalie
mentioned,
we
have
our
climate
initiative
team
lex,
and
I
are
here
to
talk
to
you
on
this
evening.
We
also
have
bob
harbert
who's
been
providing
really
instrumental
support
for
us,
particularly
in
our
work
with
acquiring
consulting
expertise
and
preparing.
Ultimately,
should
we
move
forward
with
our
operations
and
maintenance
and
conversion
contracts.
W
We
have
an
amazing
team
in
the
city
attorney's
office
with
kathy
haddock,
very
nick
van
game
and
laurel
whit,
who
are
really
part
of
our
review
and
negotiating
team,
and
then
we're
joined
tonight
by
iffy
jennings
who's,
our
area
manager
for
excel
energy
and
bob
schomer
who's,
a
senior
operations
manager
and
manages
the
street
lighting
program
for
excel
other
part,
key
participants
from
excel
or
susan
davis,
who
is
our
account
manager
for
municipal
programs
and
then
framefold
on
their
attorney
next
slide?
W
You
are
not
intended
to
read
this,
so
please
don't
stare
too
too
hard
at
the
the
numbers,
and
this
is
really
more
illustrative.
I
just
I
can
talk
a
little
bit
and
share
some
of
what
I've
learned
just
to
really
understand
the
grounding
and
the
basis
of
our
baseline
cost
estimate
and
what
we're
assuming
and
why
we're
really
here
talking
about
street
lights
today,
so
the
street
line
program
has
been
in
place
for
for
decades.
W
W
They
put
that
street
light
in
they
transfer
that
ownership
to
excel
energy
and
then
excel
owns
and
and
operates
that
system
first
lifetime
for
a
fixed
monthly
charge,
plus
an
energy
charge
that
is
based
on
the
the
estimated
energy
use
of
that
light
based
on
the
number
of
lighting
hours
right.
So
we
pay
those
two
components
of
the
bill,
irrespective
of
whether
the
light's
on
or
off,
that's
just
the
fixed
monthly
cost
that
we
have
to
pay.
W
That
includes
kind
of
standard
maintenance,
so
you
know
inspecting
the
system
doing
you
know
kind
of
minor
repairs,
but
we
also
need
to
pay
for
any
major
repairs
and
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
just
showing
on
the
right
hand
side.
So
the
poll
needs
to
be
replaced
or
fixtures
failing.
We
also
pay
that
cost,
so
these
things
can
form
the
basis
of
what
we
assume
to
be
our
ongoing
cost
of
continuing
with
the
excel
program.
W
The
other
piece
excuse
me,
and
you
know
kind
of
foundational
to
why
we
really
wanted
to
explore
acquisition
cost
is
a
key
component,
so
it's
reliability
and
safety
of
our
system,
and-
and
so
I,
I
included
one
of
our
favorite
pictures
here
of
a
street
light-
that's
been
that
was
down.
I
will
note
that,
despite
what
it
appears,
the
snowstorm
did
not
bring
this
street
light
down
the
snow
accumulated
on
a
light
that
had
been
laying
in
this
position.
W
Unfortunately,
for
several
months
this
the
the
poll
failed
it
finally
just
came
down
under
its
weight,
but
the
interest
thing
you
know
our
street
lights,
don't
tell
you
that
they're
down,
there's
no
way
of
knowing,
unless
you
actually
visually,
see
it
and
somebody
reports
it
and
so
there's
a
number
of
factors.
You
know
this
lights
out
there
for
for
several
months
and
it
was
reported
actually
in
the
beginning.
W
We
didn't
trace
that,
but
there
weren't
a
lot
of
follow-up
reports,
because
you
look
at
this,
you
assume
somebody
must
know,
or
you
don't
know
what
to
do.
You
don't
know
how
to
report
it.
You
don't
know
who
to
contact
like
there's
all
these
points
that
break
down.
There's
also
studies
out
there
that
show,
particularly
in
communities
of
color,
there's
a
hesitancy
to
even
report
lights,
and
so
many
community
members
are
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
fact
that
they
have
lights
out
and
they
don't
report
them.
W
So
this
really
doesn't
deliver
an
equitable
or
reliable
system.
This
is
really
foundation
to
what
we
wanted
to
change
so
next
slide.
Please.
W
So
with
that,
as
ali
mentioned,
we
did
launch
this
project
beginning
right
after
the
vote
in
november
of
2020
to
really
look
at
what
are
the
options.
This
included
options
where
excel
would
continue
to
own
and
operate
the
system
and
really
seeing
if
they
were
positioned,
for
example,
to
incorporate
smart
controls
like
we
had
with
our
lights,
we
did
a
lot
of
research
with
their
teams.
W
Ultimately,
we
mutually
agreed
that
timing-wise
and
just
feasibility-wise
acquisition
by
the
city
really
was
the
most
logical
decision
we
could
make
and
we
started
to
develop
the
financial
model
to
inform
the
ultimate
acquisition
decision
we're
here
tonight
for
the
study
session.
Prior
to
that,
we
did
provide
informational
items
to
both
the
transportation
advisory
board
and
the
environmental
advisory
board
just
getting
some
of
their
feedback.
I
think
generally
everybody's
supportive
and
really
looking
forward
to
really
visioning
what
the
retrofit
and
the
future
of
the
street
lighting
system
is
based
on
your
feedback.
W
Tonight,
we
would
bring
back
the
final
decision
in
the
form
of
the
2023
budget
request
that
would
fund
that
acquisition
and
retrofit
of
the
system
and
then
assuming
all
that
gets
approved.
We'd,
move
forward
in
23,
finalizing
the
acquisition
and
beginning
work
towards
the
conversion
next
slide.
W
So
I
think
it's
important
to
have
our
our
vision
and
values
of
what
really
is
a
the
streetlight
of
the
future
that
we
really
want
to
have.
It's
got
to
be
high,
performing
and
reliable.
That
means
it
needs
to
have
smart,
integrated
controls.
It
needs
to
be
be
able
to
tell
us
when
it's
out.
We
can't
continue
to
rely
on
people
to
have
to
report
that
we
need
good
quality
lighting,
so
the
luminaire
really
is
going
to
matter.
It
needs
to
be
structurally
sound.
W
We
need
to
do
models
of
good
stewardship
and
community
dollars
in
the
environment,
so
efficiency.
We
want
dimming,
mitigating
light
pollution,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later
cost
control
and,
of
course,
emissions
reduction.
I
you
know
we're
here
from
the
climate
department.
I
will
just
say
this-
isn't
really
driven
by
emissions
savings.
Actually,
it
started
as
that
journey.
But
fundamentally
it's
about
much
more
than
that,
and
I
think
all
these
things
are
just
synergistic
together
and
again
it
needs
to
be
equitable.
I
show
you
this
picture.
W
W
So
why
why
acquire
you
know
here
are
some
of
the
key
factors
that
informed
our
recommendation,
we'll
dive
into
a
little
bit
more
deeply,
how
we
arrived
at
that,
on
average
we're
on
a
trajectory
of
spending
about
1.4
million
dollars
annually.
Currently,
this
is
about
two
to
three
times
what
we
pay
for
our
own
lights,
that
we
operate
ourselves.
It's
a
little
hard
to
estimate
because
we
share
costs
with
our
traffic
signals,
but
roughly
two
to
three
times
we're
seeing
tremendous
growth
and
cost.
W
This
is
a
reflection
of
just
increasing
utility
rates,
as
well
as
the
continued
aging
of
our
system
and
the
infrastructure
associated
with
that
so
really
escalating.
I
mean
we've
estimated
around
nine
percent
per
year.
We
don't
have
control
over
those
costs.
If
the
cost
is
incurred
by
the
utility,
we
must
pay
it.
We
don't
approve
costs
ahead
of
time,
so
it
just
really
is
is
something
that
you
know
presents
a
long-term
burden
to
us.
W
Unless
we
do
acquire
the
system,
we
do
estimate
that
the
savings
just
looking
at
these
baseline
costs
would
be
1.1
million
dollars
a
year.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
this.
More
again,
I
realize
you
are
reading
the
slide,
but
you
can
see
the
the
orange
bars
that
are
showing
up
kind
of
in
those
those
out
years
that
are
taking
us
even
well
above
the
current
1.4
million
dollars.
This
represents
capital
replacement
projects
as
well.
W
So
you
know
we're
seeing
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
showing
up
for
things
like
replacing,
corroded,
poles
or
or
other
things
that
are
are
likely
to
continue
again,
as
the
system
continues
to
age,
and
we
factor
that
into
our
cost
analysis
again
excel
is
dealing
it
within
their
regulatory
framework.
What
they
can
and
cannot
do
so
that's
some
of
the
constraints
that
inform
their
decision
making
process
and
then
emissions
reduction.
W
X
Good
evening,
so
I'll
touch
base
a
little
bit
on
the
xl
street
light
system
first
and
foremost,
so
that
system
consists
of
about
4
500
street
lights
in
the
city
of
boulder,
about
91
of
those
are
high
pressure,
sodium
seven
and
a
half
are
metal
halide
and
one
percent
are
light
emitting
diodes.
X
So
we'll
discuss
a
little
bit
about
you
know
what
these
light
types
are.
High
pressure
sodium
is
typically
kind
of
a
lower
color
temperature,
and
that
looks
like
a
redder
oranger
light.
So
that's
what
you're,
seeing
most
most
way
throughout
the
city
is
kind
of
this
redder
lower
color
temperature.
They
typically
render
colors
very
poorly,
and
the
current
system
has
a
significant
amount
of
light
pollution.
X
X
Leds
are
typically
the
most
efficient.
You
can
really
get
all
sorts
of
different
types
of
leds
from
high
efficiency
to
different
color
temperatures
and
color
rendering
capabilities.
So
that's
really
a
more
diverse
option
and
you
know
a
complete
conversion
to
led
kind
of
on
a
one
for
one
basis
if
we
were
to
just
take
every
light
and
convert
it
to
an
led
light
that
would
result
in
about
a
71
percent
energy
savings
for
the
city.
X
So
all
these
lights
scattered
around
the
city,
they
are
comprised
of
mainly
standalone
poles,
like
you
see
here
on
the
right,
but
about
14
percent
are
mounted
on
the
distribution
poles.
So
that's
the
utility
poles
that
xl
used
to
provide
electric
service
to
the
city
and
another
10
are
mounted
on
top
of
city-owned
traffic
signals
at
intersections
next
slide.
Please.
X
So
here
you
see
two
maps.
The
map
on
a
on
the
left
is
the
current
excel
energy
street
light
system
of
about
4,
500
street
lights
and,
as
you
start
to
look
at
this
you'll
you'll
start
to
notice
that
the
lights
are
kind
of
denser
in
certain
areas
and
absent
in
others,
and
that's
just
kind
of
the
natural
course
of
development
of
the
city
of
boulder.
X
So
as
we
look
to
this,
you
know
one
of
the
opportunities
we
notice
as
carolyn
had
brought
brought
up
earlier,
is
kind
of
right
sizing
the
system
and
making
a
more
equitable
streetlight
system
in
the
future.
So
we
could
explore
how
to
make
this
more
consistent
around
the
city
and
how
to
improve
things.
On
that
front,
the
xl
energy
street
lights,
as
mentioned
earlier,
also
do
not
self-report.
X
So
if
there's
an
outage
or
a
failure
of
a
piece
of
equipment,
we
currently
rely
on
citizen
reporting
to
to
notice
that
outage
and
to
call
it
in
or
to
report
it
through
excel's
street
light
reporting
website,
so
that
a
repair
can
be
made
in
a
ticket
issue
to
go
out
there
and
fix
the
issue.
X
The
city
of
boulder
street
lights,
on
the
other
hand,
are
shown
on
the
right
side.
We've
got
about
600
street
lights
currently
that
are
owned
and
operated
by
the
city
of
boulder,
and
these
lights
are
are
typically
smart
lights,
so
they
they
have
some
capability
to
them.
To
report
outages,
they
can
be
remotely
controlled,
they're
all
led
fixtures,
so
they've
got
a
typically
a
much
higher
quality
of
light
and
are
much
more
energy
efficient,
and
these
lights
also
can
be.
X
They
report
outages
and
they
can
be
set
with
different
schedules.
So,
for
instance,
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning
they
could
be
set
to
dim
and
different
circuits
of
these
lights
are
set
differently
depending
on
the
usage
of
of
the
streets
and
areas
that
they're
trying
to
light
at
different
hours
of
the
day.
X
X
Here,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
process
that
we've
gone
through
and
where
we
are
today,
so
in
2021
we
initiated
discussions
with
excel
on.
You
know
how
we
could
kind
of
convert
this
whole
system
to
leds
and
we
decided
it
was
worth
it
to
explore.
X
The
acquisition
approach,
boulder
and
xl,
hired
pike,
engineering
to
conduct
kind
of
a
system,
inventory
and
audit,
and
additionally,
a
separation
study
to
take
a
look
at
how
this
system
would
be
separated
from
the
distribution
system,
so
that
the
city
could
own
and
operate
the
street
light
system
separately.
X
So
this
this
process
really
refined
the
details
on
what's
out
there
in
the
system,
so
we
refined
the
quantity
of
lights
and
the
type
of
lights.
The
wattages
fixture
details,
all
sorts
of
factors,
including
different
details
about
the
pole
and
foundation
types,
the
quality
of
the
poles.
What
condition
they're
in
through
this
process,
we
were
able
to
remove
about
200
street
lights
from
the
city's
inventory
and
bills,
things
that
just
didn't
exist
in
the
field
anymore,
that
used
to
be
in
existence
and
weren't
removed.
X
And
then
we
also
developed
and
determined
a
separation
plan.
Basically,
to
to
separate
the
street
light
system
from
the
distribution
plan-
and
there
was
a
number
of
separation
points
that
are
identified
and
developed
by
pike
engineering
on
how
that
would
be
conducted
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
minute
subsequent
to
that
we
hired
real
term
energy
who's,
a
national
leader
in
streetlight
acquisitions
and
municipalization
to
kind
of
help
guide
us
through
the
process.
X
Then
we
worked
with
real
term
to
develop
and
assess
options
for
financing
operations
and
maintenance
of
the
system.
So
this
looks
at
all
the
different
ways.
We
could
finance
acquisition
or
led
conversion,
and
then
also
you
know
comparing
operations
and
maintenance,
for
example
from
contracted
maintenance
to
in-house
to
some
blend
of
the
two
over
time.
X
And
then,
after
we
kind
of
got
these
details
pinned
down,
we
looked
at
developing
a
cost-benefit
analysis
to
really
look
at
you
know
what
are
the
costs
of
acquisition
of
the
system
of
upgrade
of
maintenance
and
what
benefits
does
that
really
bring
financially
and
then
also
in
terms
of
bringing
better
lighting
into
the
city
of
boulder
and
the
cost
energy
reductions,
emissions
reductions?
All
sorts
of
things
like
this,
and
so
we've
got
real
term
energy
on
board.
For
the
next
steps.
X
Should
we
choose
to
proceed
and
we
have
them
kind
of
ready
to
aid
in
development
of
you
know
potential
pilots,
so
we
can
deploy
different
lights
as
pilots
around
the
city
and
really
start
to
look
at
what
light
makes
sense,
and
what,
in
what
place
around
the
city
of
boulder
different
color
temperatures,
different
color,
rendering
indexes
different
technologies
of
led
lighting
and
really
start
to?
Let
the
community
engage
and
be
involved
in
that
process.
So
we
can
make
an
educated
and
informed
decision
on
how
to
deploy
the
led
retrofit
of
the
system.
X
One
of
the
other
pieces
that
we
intend
to
look
into
as
part
of
the
work
is
a
kind
of
a
comprehensive
update
of
our
street
light
design
and
construction
standards.
So
this
would
include
all
sorts
of
different
pieces
like
what,
what's
included
in
smart
lighting,
led
lighting.
X
What
types
of
leds
we
might
use
for
a
given
situation,
for
example,
intersection
and
arterial
lighting
versus
neighborhood
lighting
versus
lighting,
that's
near
the
kind
of
wildlife
urban
interface,
so
these
all
might
take
different
parts
and
pieces
and
be
looked
at
independently,
and
we
do
intend
to
take
a
look
at
the
dark
sky
requirements.
Currently,
street
lights
are
exempt
from
those
requirements
and
we
think
we
can
improve
the
street
lighting
system
so
that
it
will
kind
of
fall
under
those
requirements
and
really
create
a
better
system
for
viewing
the
night
skies.
X
X
So
that
looks
at
all
of
these
details
and
really
refines
that
cost
benefit
analysis
based
on
all
the
details
determined
through
the
photometric
designs
and
analysis
and
the
fixture
selection.
And
you
know
the
feedback
we
receive
from
the
community
based
on
the
pilots
and
the
standard
updates.
We
conduct.
X
So
that's
kind
of
an
overview
of
where
we're
at
today
and
the
next
and
final
step
in
the
process
is
to
negotiate
a
purchase
and
sale
agreement
with
excel
energy.
And
this
will
finalize
all
the
details
of
the
acquisition
of
the
system
and
kind
of
transitioning
over
into
city
ownership,
so
that
kind
of
sums
up
this
slide.
If
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
street
light
separation
here,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
the
process.
X
That's
going
to
need
to
be
undertaken
to
separate
these
street
lights
from
the
distribution
system,
and
you
can
see
on
the
right
here,
there's
a
picture
of
a
street
light,
and
this
is
one
of
those
you
know
small
percentage
of
lights
that
happen
to
be
mounted
on
a
distribution
pole,
so
you
can
see
the
electric
facilities
right
next
to
it,
and
you
know
these.
X
These
facilities
all
have
to
be
separated
as
per
the
current
pcpuc
tariff,
and
so
we
will
acquire
the
street
lights
and
there
has
to
be
some
version
of
a
separation
point
between
the
distribution
system
that
excel
will
own
and
operate
and
our
street
light
system,
so
that
crews
know
where,
where
one
facility
ends
and
the
other
begins.
X
So
essentially,
this
separation
entails
placement
of
you
know
a
protective
device
or
a
fuse
between
the
distribution
system
and
the
street
light
secondary
circuits,
and
this
will
look
a
little
bit
different,
depending
on
which
type
of
street
light
we
we
see
and
we're
looking
to
separate.
So
each
circuit
will
need
a
separation
point
of
some
sort,
and
this
this
example
here
there
would
likely
be
some
form
of
fuse
or
switch.
That
would
separate
the
distribution
system
from
the
light.
X
Overhead
systems
will
be
done
a
little
bit
differently
than
underground,
fed
street
lights,
so
underground,
fed
street
lights
will
have
a
pull
box
installed
and
that's
a
current
puc
requirement
for
a
pool
box
to
be
installed
in
about
15
years.
So
that's
some
something
that
we're
looking
to
conduct
at
a
at
a
later
date.
In
time,
the
distribution
pole
mounted
circuits
need
to
be
removed
from
the
distribution
poles
within
eight
years
as
per
the
current
tariff.
X
X
W
Thank
you,
lex
I'll
start
with
just
the
summary
of
our
our
cash
flow
analysis
and
again,
we
included
as
an
attachment
in
in
the
council
memo
the
15-year
cash
flow.
This
is
more
of
a
summary
of
it,
just
kind
of
illustrating
where
we're
seeing
the
specific
cost
savings.
W
As
you
can
see
the
most
significant
one
comes
from
that
change
from
the
current
street
lighting
rate
and
fixed
monthly
charge,
plus
energy
charge
going
to
the
rate
that
would
be
available
to
us
if
we
owned
the
system-
and
that's
where
we
see
you
know
a
very
significant
portion,
very
big
change
in
that
utility
fixed
charge
and
the
distribution
delivery
charge
is
the
other
charges
that
are
on
top
of
that
utility
charge.
We
do
see
some
reduction
in
maintenance.
W
I
did
note-
and
I
pointed
this
out
on
the
earlier
chart
when
I
was
pointing
out
the
the
orange
bars
we
don't
have
a
good
forecast
of
of
what
additional
capital
improvement
projects
would
be
on
the
horizon
under
the
excel
model.
So
we
haven't
placed
a
number
in
here.
We
have,
if
you
annualize,
or
our
our
capital
projects,
that
we
put
in
that
15-year
budget.
It's
roughly
we'd,
be
setting
inside
around
660
000
a
year,
even
with
contingency.
W
You
know
we're
still
seeing
more
than
300
000
a
year
savings
funding,
those
large
capital
projects.
So
I
show
this
to
really
show
we
have
a
lot
of
room.
Kind
of
this
is
our
worst
case
number
range
to
show.
W
W
We
padded
all
these
numbers
on
our
post
acquisition
side
to
make
sure
we're
not
really
underestimating
our
costs,
so
we
feel
pretty
good
about
the
the
overarching
savings
council
member
benjamin
had
posted
in
the
hotline
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
lessons
learned
from
places
like
flagstaff
moving
to
some
of
these
even
lower
light,
polluting
leds
or
more
amber
lights.
W
These
are
a
little
bit
more
expensive.
Our
our
consultants
say
about
10
higher.
They
use
a
little
bit
more
energy
about
35
percent
more.
We
ran
the
numbers
with
that,
I'm
not
showing
them
here
at
worst
that
really
delays
our
return
on
investment
by
about
a
year.
So
it
is
something
that,
within
some
of
the
contingency
we've
already
built
in,
we
could
potentially
do
if
that
was
the
direction
we
as
a
community
wanted
to
head.
So
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
up.
W
Benchmarking
lex
talked
a
lot
about
the
consultants
and
the
work
they
did.
We
did
interview
actually
several
leading
flight
operators
acquisition
experts
during
the
rfp
process.
We
used
their
benchmarking
numbers.
We
also
spoke
with
some
of
our
peer
communities
that
operate
their
own
systems.
W
To
really
try
and
validate
some
of
these
maintenance
assumptions
that
we
were
making
in
terms
of
city
labor,
how
many
bucket
trucks
we
might
need
to
operate
the
entire
system,
some
of
those
costs,
and
so
we
feel
these
are
pretty
good
estimates,
acknowledging
that
until
we
own
the
system
and
and
really
start
to
operate
it.
These
are
still
estimates
and
we
would
be
refining
them
over
time.
W
We
used
a
one-to-one
replacement
assumption
to
do
a
cost
estimate
and
to
really
look
at
like
if
you,
if
you
put
the
exact,
led
equivalent
for
the
exact
same
number
of
mounted
lights,
what
would
that
cost
estimate
be
b?
There
is
no
assumption
that
that's
what
we
would
actually
do
in
terms
of
deploying
the
led
retrofit.
W
W
It's
really
street
lights
are
such
a
personal
experience
for
people.
It
has
differing
effects,
especially
as
you
move
into
into
neighborhoods
and
community
areas.
We
need
to
do
this
very
thoughtfully
and
with
input
and
with
a
large
degree
of
engagement
in
communication
to
make
sure
we're
successful.
We've
certainly
learned
from
some
of
the
challenges
our
neighboring
communities
have
gone
through
when
they've
made
retrofits,
and
we
really
want
to
learn
from
that
and
do
better
as
we
as
we
proceed.
So
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that
point
next
slide.
W
W
Obviously,
one
of
those
is
using
the
ccrs
tax
as
one
of
the
sources
there's
also
private
financing
options
that
we
can
explore.
We
are
having
those
conversations
and
we
would
really
want
to
be
informed
by
you
know
how
fast
we
want
to
make
this
led
retrofit.
What
we're
hearing
from
council
as
far
as
support
for
this,
we
will
bring
that
back
through
the
2023
budget
process.
W
I
can
just
discuss
that
at
the
budget
study
session,
which
I
believe
is
in
september
as
lex
mentioned,
we'll,
based
on
that
approval,
we'd
finalize
the
purchase
and
sale
start
to
put
in
place
contracts
for
the
initial
maintenance
and
led
conversion
and
then
really
launch
into
the
led
conversion
initiative.
So
with
that
we'll
move
to
the
last
slide
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
natalie.
B
B
I
wanted
to
start
with
just
just
one
quick
question
and
would
it
be
possible
to
pull
the
slides
down
so
I
can
see
folks,
I'm
curious,
just
a
quick
idea
who
agrees
with
staff's
recommendation
on
the
first
quarter,
so
the
first
set
of
questions
is
basically
about
the
acquisition
right,
the
city's
taking
over
the
operation,
maintenance
and
repair
of
the
4
500-ish
streetlights
that
are
currently
owned
and
operated
by
excel.
B
Okay,
okay,
so
everybody
already
has
an
answer
so
who
agrees
with
staff's
recommendation.
B
At
all
of
us,
okay,
all
right
wonderful,
so
I
think
we
can.
We
can
probably
can
we
safely
move
on
from
that
first
question:
if
we
all
agree,
I
would
just
ask
if
there
is
anybody
who
would
like
to
lift
up
anything
about
why
for
the
community
and
can
do
that
really
concisely
more
concisely
than
I
can
at
9
50..
L
Why
council's
on
board
with
this?
Well,
I
think
the
most
obvious
part
is:
it
makes
economic
sense.
This
puts
the
city
in
control
of
4
500
street
lights
allows
us
to
control
the
infrastructure
and
be
more
precise
and
be
more
intentional
with
where
we
have
the
light.
It's
the
light
we
want
versus
the
light.
We
don't
want
in
a
community
that
is
highly
sensitive
to
environmental
impacts.
L
It
makes
sense
for
us
to
also
control
our
lighting
to
mitigate
light
pollution
and
be
a
model
like
we
have
been
for
decades
and
generations
on
environmental
causes
that
we
do
the
same
with
regards
to
protecting
our
night
skies,
and
so
this
fits
all
and
checks
all
the
box
for
all
the
values
in
our
community.
It
makes
economic
sense
makes
environmental
sense.
It
makes
health
and
safety
sense,
and
so
all
of
those
things
are
reasons
why.
I
think
myself
and
my
colleagues
are
looking
to
support
this.
B
B
All
right,
let's
move
on
to
the
second
part,
then
about
the
so
so
the
second
set
of
questions
is
really
about
our
feedback
on
the
approach
to
the
led
transition.
So
let's
follow
a
similar
format
to
what
we
did
before.
What
are
you
excited
about
regarding
the
transition?
What
are
you
concerned
about
with
regard
to
the
transition
and
approach
and
tara?
M
My
first
question
is:
I
just
have
a
quick
question
and
I'm
curious
the
other
communities
what
they
didn't
like
or
complained
about,
or
what
were
their
comments
and
then
I
just
I'll
just
add.
My
second
question:
did
you
guys
say
we're
going
to
do
some
sort
of
a
pilot
program
before
we
buy
all
of
it
first
or
was.
Does
I'm
misunderstanding,
my
packet
yeah.
W
W
We
would
do
the
pilots
before
we
go
broadly
through
the
community
and
start
to
retrofit
lights,
so
we'd
already
own
the
system
for
the
pilots
we'd
change
over
some
with
maybe
some
different
lighting
strategies
get
feedback
from
the
community
and
use
that
to
then
inform
the
standards
as
lex
mentioned
about
how
the
rest
of
the
the
system
would
be
deployed.
So,
starting
with
that
one,
as
far
as
the
other
community's
led
is
a
very
different
experience,
then
your
your
traditional
hps
right,
the
let's
show
some
pictures
but
they're.
W
Very
your
current
lights
are
very
kind
of
yellow
and
scattered.
Leds
can
be
very
harsh,
I'm
feeling
when
you
first
interact
with
them,
and
it
creates
a
very
it
feels
like
you're,
suddenly
seeing
the
power
of
the
sun
if
it's
not
done
well
and
and
that
could
be
very,
have
very
adverse
impacts
on
community
members.
W
In
fact,
we
inadvertently
had
a
light
in
one
of
our
residential
streets
converted
to
led-
and
you
know
it
was
very
traumatic
for
that-
that
homeowner
suddenly
she's
got
the
power
of
the
sun
right
outside
her
window
and
it
like
it
was
a
surprise,
and
so
the
things
that
haven't
gone
well
is
people,
don't
know
what
they're
expecting
that
maybe
some
of
the
quality
control
wasn't
as
good
in
the
deployment
so
that
the
shielding
and
orientation
of
the
lights
wasn't
a
good,
and
sometimes
you
were
over
lighting
areas
that
really
didn't
need
to.
W
So
it
was
much
more
powerful
than
you
really
needed
to
accomplish
it.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
we
heard
from
them.
The
other
piece
I
heard
very
clearly
from
them
is
making
sure
there's,
there's
really
solid
customer
support
so
that
as
people
do
have
their
personal
interactions
with
the
lights
near
them.
That
somebody's
there
to
respond
and
really
assess
the
situation,
and
I
think
there
were
there
were
times
in
some
of
the
communities
where
there
was
not
really
a
good
system
to
do
that.
M
I
mean
they
make,
I
get
migraines
from
them,
but
I'm
assuming
that
I'm
not
the
only
one.
So
did
you
hear
that
from
it's
not
about
me?
Obviously
it's
about
the
city,
but
I
was
just
curious
if
you
heard
that.
W
I
won't
go
into
all
the
details
like
what's
400
kelvin
but
very
harsh
blue
and
we
definitely
know
lower
temperatures
create
a
much
more
favorable
experience.
You
still
want
to
balance.
You
know
the
lighting
quality
that
you
need
to
to
deal
with,
but
definitely-
and
I
know
we
got
some
questions.
Actually
I
got
some
questions
from
a
reporter
during
the
interview
is
you
can
do
a
lot
of
things
to
to
manage
how
much
light
you
put
out
and
manage
dark
skies
without
sacrificing
safety
or
security
right?
W
So
it's
it's
making
sure
that
the
lighting
you're
putting
out
is
doing
the
purpose
and
not
spreading
around
and
being
wasted
in
other
ways
or
or
spreading
to
places
where
you're
not
trying
to
light.
So
I
think
it's
all.
Those
experiences
have
to
be
really
important,
so
it's
only
lighting
the
thing
that
you
need
and
then
that
also
helps
with
your
personal
experience.
W
I
too,
do
not
like
leds
personally,
but
from
the
very
same
reason,
but
they
still
are
a
much
better
experience
from
from
like
driving
safety
and
pedestrian
safety,
especially
when
we
can
gym
at
night,
where
it's
better.
For
your
eye
to
be
able,
you
can
see
farther
in
dimmer
light
at
night
when
your
eyes
already
focused
in
dark
when
you're
transitioning
from
very
bright
to
very
dark
spaces.
That's
actually
where
you
have
the
the
safety
issues.
L
Thanks
nicole
first,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
whole
team
from
carolyn
to
mike
to
lex
and
and
jonathan,
and
now
I
mean
this
is
a
very
intentional
and
well
thought
out
plan,
and
I
just
want
to
commend
the
team
for
putting
in
the
time
to
be
that
thoughtful.
You
know
this
is
an
area
of
professional
expertise.
I
have
having
worked
on
the
dark
sky
reserve
and
a
lot
of
other
ordinances
and
I
have
to
say
working
with
a
number
of
other
communities
in
other
states.
L
You
guys
rise
to
the
top
on
in
terms
of
just
the
thoughtfulness
that
you've
gone
into
thinking
about
this.
So
I
just
want
to
say
I
appreciate
that
a
lot.
You
know
a
couple
things
I'd
I'd
love
to
see
us
fold
in.
I
know
we're
just
in
acquisition,
so
we
got
some
time
before
we're
really
in
a
place
of
thinking
about
sort
of
the
nuts
and
bolts,
but
I
do
want
to
plant
some
of
those
seeds,
and
I
appreciate
what
lex
said
earlier
about
thinking
about
how
this
transition
already
gets
staff.
L
Thinking
about
you
know
the
lighting
ordinance
and
folding
in
the
you
know
getting
rid
of
the
exemption
of
street
lights
so
that
they're
folded
into
it
and
just
thinking
about
what
is
our
older,
dark
sky
lighting
ordinance?
How
do
you
modernize
it
in
the
time
of
leds
and
some
other
environmental
concerns?
So
I
really
appreciate
that
you're
looking
to
do
that.
One
area,
I'd
love
to
see
us
embark
on-
and
I've
mentioned
this
in
my
hotline
was
a
lumen
budget.
L
I
think
this
may
be
a
smart
way
for
us
to
really
think
about
how
much
is
an
allowable
amount
of
lighting
per
unit
area
per
acre
or
or
whatever,
and
is
that
different
based
on
the
different
land
use
that
we
have,
and
that
way
we
kind
of
just
know
what
a
maximum
amount
of
illumination
we
need
in
an
area,
and
then
we
can
gauge
that
and
then
we
can
measure
our
general
success
on.
Are
we
allowing
more
or
less
light
over
time
in
certain
areas
and
are
we
staying
within
a
budget
right?
L
We
do
with
our
general
financing
budget,
so
I
think
that
might
be
a
good
way
for
the
long
term
benefit
of
just
understanding
our
lighting,
not
just
with
street
lights,
but
lighting
is
comprehensively
around
the
community.
The
other
one
I
wanted
to
touch
on
is
with
regards
to
the
more
aggressive,
dark,
skylights
and,
and
the
reason
for
that
is-
and
I
appreciate
you
already
doing
that
analysis-
I
mean
the
fact
that
it's
only
ten
percent
more
and
you'll,
you
know,
and
you
will
cover
the
cost
in
just
a
year
more.
L
I
did
want
to
clarify
a
point
with
carolyn
when
you
said
that
it
uses
30
to
35
percent.
More
energy
was
that
in
comparison
to
the
led
standard,
led
conversion
light
or
the
current
high
pressure
sodium
light.
L
Wonderful
that
that
was
the
point
I
was
I
was
headed
for
so
thank
you
carolyn,
for
that.
I
I'd
love
to
see
as
given
that
it's
marginally
more
expensive
he's
only
a
little
bit
more
juice
and
only
takes
a
year
more
of
cost
recovery,
but
yet
has
tremendous
impact
in
terms
of
our
light
footprint
along
the
front
range.
L
Certainly
with
regards
to
our
wild
urban
interface,
we
know
the
impacts
of
night
light
pollution
on
migratory
birds
and
other
parts
of
our
wild
urban
interface,
not
to
mention
the
the
biochemistry
that
happens
to
deal
with
the
production
of
melatonin
and
people
being
able
to
sleep
at
night.
Those
are
all
really
well
documented
impacts,
and
I
think
we
can
lead
on
that.
So
I'd
love
to
really
see
us.
Consider
that
certainly
love
to
see
my
colleagues
consider
that
or
if
they
have
questions,
certainly
reach
out
to
the
team
on
that.
L
But
by
and
large
I
just
love
that
that
we're
headed
in
this
direction-
and
I
think
that
with
just
a
few
little
tweaks
we
can
be-
we
can
be
leading
in
in
colorado
and
certainly
on
the
front
range
as
an
example
of
how
to
be
good
for
our
environment,
good
for
our
energy
savings
and
good
for
our
community
as
a
whole.
So
thank
you
for
this
appreciate
it.
B
O
Yay
thanks
matt
for
that
very
detailed,
thoughtful
answer.
I
mostly
agree
with
what
you
laid
out.
I
think
the
only
part
that
I
maybe
go
a
slightly
different
direction
on
is
with
thinking
about
maybe
a
future
lumen
budget.
I
just
you
know
from
an
architectural
perspective,
I
typically
think
of
lighting
by
use,
and
so
while
we
might
have
different
sort
of
lighting
targets
for
different
zoning,
that
that's
zoning
across
the
city
doesn't
necessarily
have
the
same
street
density
everywhere.
O
Things
like
that,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that
would
necessarily
pan
out
as
successful
and
I'd
sort
of
prefer
to
think
of
it.
On
a
you
know
what
the
activity
is
and
trying
to
just
light
that
appropriately.
O
One
of
the
issues
that
we
see
a
lot
is
when
things
are
over
lit
that
increases
contrast
right,
which
makes
your
eye
less
able
to
perceive
things
either
in
the
light
or
the
dark,
and
so
that,
even
though
people
often
associate
that
highly
illuminated
area
with
safety,
we
find
you
know,
like
we've,
been
saying
a
lot
that
that
that
can
lead
to
a
lot
of
issues.
In
terms
of
not
being
you
know,
people
actually
being
able
to
hide
in
the
dark
spaces
and
and
also
not
being
able
to
just
react
things
as
quickly.
O
B
Done
with
lighting
all
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Jonathan.
Thank
you,
natalie.
Thank
you,
carolyn.
Thank
you,
everybody
who
has
been
working
on
this
and
thank
you
from
for
the
representatives
from
excel.
If
you've
been
here
this
evening,
stayed
up
late
with
us.
We
really
appreciate
you.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
I
think,
then
that
is
pretty
much
it.
The
only
thing
I
just
want
to
name
before
we
end
is
maybe,
when
we're
having
conversations
about
topics
like
we
did
with
policing
that
are
kind
of
touching
on
some
of
the
harm
that's
done
to
members
of
our
community
and
even
ourselves.
B
I
just
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
find
a
way
to
kind
of
give
some
emotional
some
space
to
the
emotional
energy
and
the
trauma
that
those
conversations
can
can
take
up,
and
I
I
think
I
could
have
opened
the
placing
discussion
just
by
naming
that
it
was
a
hard
one
and
checking
in
with
folks
before
we
started
it
really
would
have
been
nice.
I
think,
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
debrief
afterwards.
It
was
a
little
weird
to
go
into
talking
about
street
lights.
B
I
don't
know
if
anybody
else
felt
that,
but
I
felt
like
there
was.
There
was
just
some
a
little
bit
of
debriefing
that
that
we
could
have
done
to
check
in
on
each
other
in
the
community
before
we
moved
on
with
that.
So
I
just
I
apologize
to
staff.
My
attention
was
not,
where
probably
should
have
been
for
the
street
lights
discussion
so
anyway.
Maybe
we
could
just
think
about
how
to
do
that
in
future
meetings.
B
When
we're
talking
about
topics
that
are
almost
certain
to
bring
out
our
biases
and
our
traumas
and
emotions,
how
can
we
make
the
make
time
in
the
meetings
to
prepare
for
those
discussions
and
then
to
debrief
them
afterwards,
just
so
that
we're
minimizing
the
chances
of
doing
harm
and
re-traumatizing
each
other
in
the
community,
so
something
to
think
about
as
we
move
forward?
Thank
you,
everybody
for
staying
up,
appreciate
it.
B
I
apologize
for
going
so
off
track
and
the
time
for
this,
but
thank
you
all
for
sticking
and
having
these
conversations,
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
a
close
at
1006
pm.