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Welcome
to
the
august
11th
2022
meeting
special
meeting
of
the
boulder
city
council
we're
going
to
get
started
with
a
few
announcements
here,
so
if
we
can
get
those
up
on
the
screen,
please.
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19
testing
and
vaccinations
so
for
information
and
provider
locations
for
free
coven,
19
testing
go
to
www.vocode.org
covid
testing.
Our
boulder
site
is
at
2445,
stasio
drive
and
that's
open.
Seven
days
a
week
from
8
am
to
6
pm
and
for
vaccine
information
and
provider
locations.
Please
go
to
www.boco.org
vaccine.
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Our
next
announcement
is
about
zero
fare
for
better
air
august,
so
during
the
entire
month
of
august,
rtd
will
offer
zero
fares
across
its
system
as
part
of
the
zero
fare
for
better
air
initiative.
This
collaborative
statewide
initiative
made
possible
by
colorado
senate
bill
22180
and
partnership
with
the
colorado
energy
office
is
designed
to
reduce
ground
level
ozone
by
increasing
use
of
public
transit.
B
So
by
taking
advantage
of
free
transit
in
august,
you
can
save
money
on
gas
and
parking
avoid
the
frustration
of
driving
in
traffic,
help
improve
air
quality
by
reducing
single
occupant
vehicle
traffic
or
use
your
and
use
your
commute
to
catch
up
on
work,
listen
to
music
or
read
the
book
for
more
information.
Please
visit
the
rtd
site
at
www.rtvdenver.com.
B
And
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
just
add
a
group
of
us
from
the
northwest
mayor
and
commissioner
coalition
did
a
joint
ride,
along
with
city
staff
and
county
staff,
from
boulder
down
to
denver
a
couple
days
ago,
and
let
me
just
say
it
was:
it
was
smooth.
It
was
clean,
it
was
safe,
it
was
fun,
it
was
just
a
great
ride
all
around
and
so
just
encourage
very
much
anyone
to
just
hop
on
the
bus.
B
Okay,
so
just
recently
we
had
the
office
post
office,
dedication
for
officer
eric
talley,
so
march.
B
This
dedication
will
serve
as
a
perpetual
reminder
of
officer,
talley's,
rich
life,
dedicated
service
and
sacrifice.
His
memory
will
live
on
in
the
hearts
and
minds
of
our
impacted
community
members
and
for
those
who
never
knew
him.
Those
who
make
other
ordinary
errands
they
will
notice
their
trips
to
the
post
office
as
commemorated
by
one
of
boulder's
finest.
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B
Thank
you,
alicia
and
I'll
just
note
that
council,
member
tara
weiner
had
a
death
in
her
family,
unfortunately,
and
is
not
able
to
be
here
tonight
because
she's
a
typical
funeral,
so
we
send
our
condolences
and
send
our
family
our
best
wishes.
B
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
start
off,
and
I
will
note
that
today
is
a
special
meeting.
So
we're
not
having
open
comments
tonight
because
of
that
and
we're
going
to
start
with
a
covered.
19
hybrid
council
meeting
discussion,
felicia.
C
I
Hi
good
evening
all
and
it's
great
to
greet
you
at
6pm,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that
pam
davis
assistant
city
manager,
my
pronouns,
are
she
her?
I
don't
have
a
formal
presentation
tonight
in
light
of
some
of
our
previous
discussions
this
summer,
but
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
information
to
review
prior
to
tee
up
your
discussion.
So
tonight
our
goal
is
to
establish
direction
from
you
all
whether
to
officially
commence
our
fully
hybrid
council
meetings.
I
I
During
your
late
july
process
discussion,
you
had
directed
us
to
come
back
to
set
a
date
for
allowing
in-person
participation
during
regular
meetings.
Once
again
after
we
reached
this
data
milestone-
and
previously
you
had
already
made
the
decision
to
maintain
that
study
sessions
and
special
meetings
would
remain
virtual,
but
that
regular
meetings
would
begin
a
hybrid
format.
I
So
the
first
piece
of
information
is
that
now
that
we
are
at
medium
risk
level,
the
city
is
fully
implementing
our
own
hybrid
work
policy
for
city
staff.
That
will
fully
take
effect
on
august
22nd
and
will
bring
previously
teleworking
employees
back
to
the
office
a
minimum
of
two
days
per
week,
and
we
will
continue
to
maintain
all
in-person
services
that
are
open
to
the
community,
with
no
plans
to
make
further
operational
shifts
due
to
copid
the
only
situation
we
might
envision.
I
The
second
piece
of
information
is
that
there
were
questions
just
around
our
peer
cities
in
the
area
and
what
others
were
doing
as
far
as
their
council
meetings.
I
can
confirm
for
certain
that
we
are
the
only
city
in
the
boulder
county
region.
That
is
still
hosting
virtual
council
meetings.
Our
other
city
cities
nearby
have
begun
returning
to
in-person
meetings.
I
The
only
exception
to
that
is
the
boulder
county
commission,
and
I,
as
I
mentioned
that
is
not
due
to
covet
concerns
that
is
due
to
technology
issues
and
supply
chain
issues
that
are
plaguing
us
all,
and
so
their
intention
is
as
soon
as
they
can
get
their
room
sorted
out
and
their
technology.
They
will
also
be
in
person
and
then,
finally,
there
were
some
questions
for
our
facilities
team
as
it
related
to
air
exchange
and
chambers,
and
what
we've
done
to
accommodate
that
space.
I
What
they've
done
is
is
essentially
mimic
outdoor
conditions
by
maximizing
the
air
exchange
per
hour,
so
that
outside
air
is
brought
in
and
inside
air
is
recycled
back
out
of
the
building.
In
addition
to
that,
we
do
have
two
portable
hepa
filtration
units
that
will
be
on
site
and
available
for
use
during
meetings
to
increase
that
circulation
even
further.
I
So
with
that
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
additional
questions,
our
question
for
you
is:
are
you
now
interested
in
transitioning
to
a
hybrid
meeting
that
will
allow
council
to
convene
in
person,
along
with
presenters
and
support
staff,
and
if
yes,
what
date,
would
you
like
to
start?
We
would
be
prepared
for
the
september
first
regular
meeting
or
later
based
on
your
wishes.
I
The
second
question
will
be
when
you
do
return
to
person.
Do
you
wish
for
members
of
the
public
to
be
welcomed
back
to
attend
and
participate
in
meetings
right
away,
while
maintaining
our
virtual
options,
or
would
you
like
to
phase
them
in
after
you
all
get
settled
back
into
the
hybrid
environment,
and
with
that
mayor,
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
you
for
discussion.
B
Thanks
so
much
kim
appreciate
all
that
information.
Okay,
so
I'll
just
open
the
floor
to
comments-
and
I
think
we
before
we
pretty
much
said
that
once
we
hit
yellow,
we
would
start
looking
coming
back
into
person,
but
of
course
things
can
change,
but
somebody
wants
to
offer
a
comment.
Get
us
started
rachel.
J
Probably
to
the
surprise
of
no
one
watching
I
will
advocate
for
june
1st,
and
I
would
say
it's
been
a
long
time
since
we
got
to
welcome
the
public
into
chambers
as
well
so
happy
to
to
have
public
come
back
at
that
point
too.
B
K
About
that,
don't
worry
yeah,
I'm!
I
support
us
going
back
into
hybrid
september
1st.
I
I
would,
though,
like
to
phase
the
public
in
right.
I
mean
it
was
we
dropped
like
flies
on
our
second
in
person
meeting,
so
I
would
like
to
maybe
give
us
a
chance
to
work
some
of
those
kinks
out
before
welcoming
the
public
back
so
but
yeah
september
for
us
in
person
and
then
phase
the
public
in
one
or
two
regular
meetings.
After
that.
B
F
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
steph
if
you
all
have
a
preference
I
know
before
when
we
tried
coming
back
before
most
of
us
got
covered.
You
would
wanted
a
little
bit
of
time
to
make
sure
that
everything
was
working
with
council
back
before
the
public
came
back.
Are
you
feeling
completely
comfortable
everybody
coming
back
at
the
same
time
now
or
would
a
meeting
or
so
be
helpful
in
that
transition.
H
I'm
happy
to
weigh
in,
I
think
we're
ready
if
that
were
the
case,
but
we'd
always
appreciate,
perhaps
a
meeting
or
two
just
to
make
sure
that
the
flow
for
you
all
is
fine
as
we
come
in.
So
that
would
be
great,
but
also
defer
to
the
preferences
of
council
if
it's
just
up
to
staff.
I'll
say
that
I
think
it's
it'll
be
nice
to
have
a
meeting
or
two
under
our
belt,
as
we
start
to
think
about
inviting
more
hybrid
and
in
public
and
in
person
in.
F
Oh
yeah,
I
think
just
just
hearing
that
then
I
would
have
a
slight
preference
for
giving
staff
just
that
little
bit
of
time
to
make
sure
everything
is
worked
out.
It's
it's
a
slight
preference,
not
a
strong
preference,
but
it
does
sound
like
it
may
be
easier
for
staff
to
to
go
that
way.
E
Thank
you
aaron.
I
am
happy
to
go
back
in
is
in
september
1st,
and
I
like
the
phasing
approach,
but
my
question
to
staff
is
even
with
the
phasing
approach.
Well,
we
keep
going
the
hybrid
for
this
foreseeable
future
for
people
who
cannot
make
it
to
council.
I
Thanks
for
the
question
council
member
joseph
and
the
answer
is
yes,
so
our
intention
is
to
maintain
hybrid
in
perpetuity.
We've
recognized
a
lot
of
benefits
to
accessibility,
to
meetings
to
dealing
with
those
issues
that
come
up
that
require
folks
to
not
be
able
to
come
in
person
so,
and
we
also
want
to
respect
those
who
choose
to
remain
more
distant.
So
for
all
of
those
reasons,
yes,.
E
No
thank
you.
I.
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
we'll
give
staff
the
opportunity
to
face
this
process
and
and
also
doing
it
for
the
foreseeable
future,
because
I
remember
when
I
first
got
on
council,
one
of
the
one
of
our
council
member
was
always
advocating
for
actually
having
either.
What
do
we
call
it
some
type
of
services
for
parents
because
to
help
them,
but
I
think,
having
hybrid
meeting
is:
oh,
it's
going
to
take
care
of
some
aspect
of
that.
So
thank
you.
So
much.
B
Sorry
about
the
dog
there,
I'll
just
add
in
I
I'm
good
with
september
1st
as
well
and
phasing
it
with
the
public
in
a
meeting
or
two
after
that.
So
I'll
just
put
that
out
any
objections
and
let
me
let
the
dog
out
and
I'll
check.
H
Children
and
pets
is
what
we're
all
used
to
in
this
new
hybrid,
normal
right.
B
I
It
absolutely
does
and
we'll
follow
up
if
there's
any
sort
of
final
reorientation
support
that
you
all
need.
As
you
come
back
in
september,
excellent.
B
I
B
All
right
glutton
for
punishment,
okay,
great
so
elisha,
can
we
move
into
our
one
other
agenda
item
of
the
night?
Well,
actually,
let
me
just
pause
for
a
moment
here,
because
rachel
had
asked
us
to
chat
about
something
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
so
I'll
just
point
out
that
we
will
have
a
chance
to
check
in
on
that
rachel
briefly
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
but
we'll
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
that.
But
the
only
regularly
scheduled
item
on
our
meeting
tonight
is
one
public
hearing,
so
felicia.
C
C
The
second
item
is
the
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8539
and
that
is
related
to
updating
the
charter.
If
the
library
district
is
formed
through
the
county
ballot
item,
number
three
is
the
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8540,
which
is
related
to
prohibiting
running
for
more
than
one
office
item.
Number
four:
is
the
second
reading
and
motion
to
adopt
ordinance,
85,
46
related
to
converting
our
elections
to
even
years
and
the
last
item
under
the
public
hearing
tonight
is
the
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8542,
which
is
related
to
the
climate
action
tax.
L
Thank
you
good
evening,
council.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here,
I'm
kathy
haddock
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
I
am
going
to
do
a
very
high
level
review
of
the
ordinances
and
what
they
contain
in
them,
but
the
real
experts
and
people
that
have
worked
on
this
are
also
on
the
phone
and
will
be
able
to
answer
any
of
your
questions
as
we
go
through,
and
I
believe,
lisa
or
emily
is
running
my
presentation
too,
and
there
we
are
going
to
be
going
through
five
ordinances
for
six
ballot
titles.
L
There
are
one
of
the
ordinance
for
the
climate
tax
has
both
the
ballot
title
for
the
new,
the
tax
and
for
the
debt
authorization
in
it.
So
next
slide,
please,
for
all
these
ordinances,
the
ordinance
describes
the
code
or
charter
changes
that
would
go
into
effect
if
the
measure
passes
and
they
contain
the
actual
ballot.
Language,
of
course,
voting
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
does
not
mean
that
you
support
or
oppose
the
measure
just
that
you
are
voting
to
put
it
on
next
slide.
Please
the
first
ordinance
is
ordinance.
L
Eight
five,
three
four:
this
is
a
referendum
on
c
cu
south.
This
is
on
the
ballot,
because
the
committee
presented
a
referendum
petition
with
sufficient
signatures
to
put
on
the
ballot,
whether
or
not
to
repeal
ordinance
8483
regarding
the
annexation
of
cu.
L
South
council
is
required
to
put
it
on
law
at
this
next
meeting
or
this
next
election,
because
it's
november
election,
the
original
ordinance
was
adopted
by
emergency,
so
the
annexation
has
been
recorded
and
the
parties
are
implementing
the
terms
of
the
ordinance
and
agreement,
the
language
that
is
in
your
ordinance
as
the
ballot
language
is
the
same,
as
appeared
on
each
page
of
the
referendum
petition.
L
I
know
that
during
this
week
you
got
an
alternative
suggestion
by
the
referendum
committee
for
that
I
am
concerned
about
that
summary
not
being
accurate
and
the
the
statement
of
the
effect
is
different
than
what
the
charter
says.
The
effect
will
be
if
it
was
done
so
recommend
you
stay
with
the
language
that
is
in
the
ordinance.
That's
in
front
of
you
next
slide,
please,
eight
five,
three
nine
is
the
like
library
district
provisions.
L
So
in
order
for
the
city
not
to
be
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place,
if
it
is
adopted,
we
are
also
putting
the
library
measure
on
the
ballot.
Now
it
does
not
go
into
effect
unless
the
voters
form
the
library
district.
If
the
voters
do
form
the
library
district,
then
the
city
question
would
repeal
all
the
charter
provisions
about
the
library
and
allow
the
council
to
negotiate
an
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
new
library
district
during
the
transition.
L
That's
clarifying
things
for
candidates
in
the
charter.
One
clarification
is,
there
can
only
be
one
candidate,
I'm
sorry,
one
person
can
only
be
a
candidate
for
one
office
at
an
election.
So
that
means
that
the
council
member
wants
to
run
for
mayor
and
their
seat
is
not.
I'm
sorry
try
to
say
this
super
clear.
If
a
council
member
wants
to
run
for
mayor,
of
course,
they
could
run
for
mayor
on
an
election
year
when
their
term
ends
and
they'd
just
be
running
for
mayor.
L
They
would
not
be
running
for
council
that
doesn't
require
a
change.
The
thing
that
requires
a
change
is
if
a
council
member
is
in
the
middle
of
their
four-year
term
and
want
to
run
for
mayor.
This
provision
doesn't
require
them
to
give
up
their
council
seat
unless
they
win
the
mayor's
seat
and
then,
if
they
do
win
the
mayor's
seat,
they'd
resign,
their
council
seat,
the
candidate
that
received
the
fifth
highest
number
votes
at
the
election
would
bill
that
person's
unexpired
term.
L
The
newly
elected
mayors
on
expired
term.
The
other
change
that
this
makes
is
it
changes
the
swearing-in
date
of
elected
candidate
from
the
third
tuesday
in
november
to
the
first
business
meeting
in
december.
That's
so
that
the
swearing-in
of
new
candidates
is
for
sure.
After
all,
the
ballot
results
have
been
certified
and
even
gives
some
time
for
onboarding
between
the
time
of
certification
of
ballots
and
the
first
business
meeting
in
december,
although
even
still
it
doesn't
give
much
time
next
ordinance
or
next
slide.
L
Please
excuse
me
this
next
ordinance
is
what
would
implement,
if
approved
by
the
voters
moving
to
even
year
elections.
There
were
several
processes
considered
by
council,
and
this
is
the
one
that
was
selected
to
put
on
the
ballot.
It
changes
the
regular
municipal
election
from
odd
years
to
even
years,
starting
in
2026.
L
in
order
to
get
offices
set
up
between
here
and
now.
For
the
mayor,
the
first
mayor
directly
elected
in
2023
would
get
a
three-year
term
rather
than
the
two-year
term
plan
now,
so
they
would
serve
until
2026,
then
for
the
mayor,
elected
in
2026
and
every
even
numbered
year
after
that,
they'd
only
get
a
two-year
term
for
the
council
members
to
get
to
even-numbered
years.
The
members
elected
in
2023
would
get
three-year
terms
to
2026..
L
The
members
elected
in
2025
would
get
three-year
terms
to
2028,
and
then
every
candidate
and
every
council
member
that
is
elected
in
2026
or
after
and
even
numbered
years,
would
get
four-year
terms
next
slide.
Please.
L
This
is
the
climate
tax
slide
that
we
talked
about
the
this
imposes
a
new
climate
tax
that
is
levied
like
the
utility
occupation.
Tax
is
levy
now,
which
means
that
it
would
be
6.5
million
dollars
on
the
provider
of
electric
and
national
gas
natural
gas
services
starting
january
1st
right
now,
the
only
a
provider
of
electric
and
natural
gas
service
is
excel.
L
The
ballot
issue
also
repeals
the
existing
utility
occupation
tax
on
december
31st.
2022,
so
basically
sun
setting
it
early
and
also
sun
sets
the
cap
tax
early.
L
The
ordinance
includes
the
changes
to
the
code
that
would
become
effective
if
the
issue
passes,
and
then
it
lists
all
the
types
of
services
that
the
or
programs
that
can
be
done
with
the
revenues
from
the
tax.
The
general
statement
of
the
revenues
is
that
they're
used
to
maintain
and
expand
climate
focused
programs
and
services,
including
wildfire
resistance
financing,
capital
projects
and
stabilizing
fundings
for
the
initiatives
to
meet
the
city
goals
and
then
there's
a
much
more
detailed
list
of
examples
in
the
ballot
itself.
L
Next
slide,
please
for
the
debt
question
on
that
same
ordinance,
it
authorizes
debt
up
to
52.9
million.
That's
the
debt
that
could
be
issued,
anticipating
that
that
the
debt
would
use
5
million
per
year
to
pay
back
the
debt
service,
and
the
term
of
that
would
be
15
years.
The
maximum
repayment
cost
would
not
exceed
75
million,
that's
principal
and
interest.
L
L
There
is
6.5,
so
you
know,
we've
got
a
super
buffer
there,
so
not
anticipated
that
it
need
to
be
used,
but
we
would
get
the
city's
rating,
which
would
reduce
the
interest
cost
so
that
the
money
would
be
less
expensive.
To
borrow
the
debt
would
be
to
accelerate
the
projects
and
programs
to
reach
the
price.
The
climate
goals,
rather
than
paying
as
you
go,
and
it's
important
to
remember
that
the
voters
are
authorizing
the
maximum
amounts.
L
Council
ultimately
makes
a
decision
when
bonds
are
issued
about
whether
all
or
only
some
of
that
debt
is
issued
the
length
of
the
bonds,
the
timing,
they
can
also
narrow
the
use
of
the
proceeds.
All
of
those
things
are
determination
by
council
afterwards,
basically,
the
voters
define
the
box
and
counsel
gets
to
just
to
determine
how
they're
going
to
use
in
the
box
next
slide.
Please.
L
B
Thanks
so
much
kathy.
Well,
let's
just
say
if
council
members
do
have
any
questions
and
right
now,
let's
let's
go
through
those
before
we
turn
to
the
public
hearing,
I've
got
bob
and
then
mark.
G
Thanks
guys,
that
was
very,
very
helpful.
I
think
I
heard
you
say,
but
I
wanted
to
maybe
have
you
reiterate
or
clarify
with
respect
to
the
ballot
measure.
I
remember
the
number,
the
ballot
measure
that
relates
to
the
cu
south
referendum,
that
one
is
not
discretionary
by
council.
In
other
words,
we
are
acting
as
administrators
on
that
one,
because
a
petition
with
adequate
signatures
was
delivered
and
we
must
vote
yes
on
that.
One
is
that
correct.
L
Correct
it
doesn't
say
it
as
blatantly
as
you
must
vote
yes,
but
there
is
another
way
we
have
to
do
it,
and
so
yes,
you
are
doing
your
administrative
duty.
It's
not
discretionary.
M
Mark
then,
rachel
yeah
kathy,
two
questions.
First,
with
respect
to
the
cu
south
are
any
clarifying
language
changes
possible
or
do
we
are
we
simply
stuck
with
what
what
has
been
petitioned
for
and
and
received
the
the
adequate
number
of
signatures.
L
L
Yes
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
emily
or
litha,
but
that
would
be
slide
10.
L
and
actually
I
have
the
wording
that
the
on
this
slide
the
wording
that
the
referendum
committee
asked
for.
It's
like
you
were
right,
the
first
time
back
up.
Thank
you.
So
what
is
on
the
ballot
now
is:
should
ordinance
8483
regarding
the
annexation
of
cu
south
be
repealed.
M
Okay,
that's
fine!
My
second
question
is
on
the
climate
action
text.
Did
I
correctly
read
the
memo
where
it
suggested,
or
at
least
to
me,
suggested
that
excel
will
actually
determine
the
allocation
among
residential,
commercial
and
industrial
properties.
M
So
we
cannot
inform
the
community
as
to
what
their
actual
the
actual
tax
consequence
will
be.
I
mean
I
don't
think
they
would
do
it,
but
in
theory
xl
could
say
you
know,
let's
dump
it
all
on
the
consumers
or,
let's
dump
it
all
on
the
industrial
properties.
Do
they
have
that
freedom.
L
O
Yes
and
that's
a
really
good
question,
councilmember
wallach,
currently
again
we're
using
the
utility
occupation
tax
mechanism
and
it's
allocated
equally
based
on
revenues
that
are
collected
so
depending
on
what
a
customer's
bill
is.
It's
effectively
a
sales
tax
rate
as
excel
applies
it
so
they
don't
necessarily
take
discretion
to
say
we're
going
to
bill
residents
at
eight
percent
and
commercial
businesses
at
two.
It's
the
same
effective
tax
rate.
They
just
have
to
figure
out
what
the
tax
rate
is
based
on
what
their
projected
revenues
are
for
the
year.
O
We
also
anticipate
providing
additional
guidance
to
them
because
we
tell
them
and
we
levy
the
tax
on
them,
and
we
have
the
ability
to
provide
guidance
as
to
how
we
expect
that
to
be
levied
to
include
the
exemptions
that
we've
identified
for
recipients
of
energy
assistance
financing,
as
well
as
potentially
addressing
the
fact
that
they
do
not
collect
all
the
revenues
associated
with
natural
gas
use.
So
we
do
anticipate
providing
that
guidance.
So
the
what
we
presented
in
the
memo
as
the
tax,
effective
tax
rates
or
average
tax
rates
are
intended
to
be
applied.
O
We
have
scheduled
meetings
with
them
to
start
to
affect
the
changes
or
anticipation
of
a
tax
approval,
so
it
can
go
into
effect
january
1st,
as
planned.
Daryl.
B
J
Thank
you.
I
had
a
couple
questions.
First,
I'm
looking
at
c
south
8483.
I
think
the
same
language
is
in
all
of
these,
but
just
wondering
wondering
about
it
section
5
reads:
this
ordinance
is
necessary
to
protect
the
public
health
safety
and
welfare
of
residents
of
the
city
and
covers
matters
of
local
concern.
J
If,
if
that
is
to
say
that
repealing
annexation
is
necessary
to
like
a
yes
vote,
would
be
necessary
to
protect
public
health,
safety
and
welfare,
and
that,
like
that's,
the
opposite
of
the
truth,
people
could
die
if
this
referendum
measure
passes.
So
what's
that
language
mean.
L
And
I'll
I
don't
know
if
theresa
wants
to
jump
in
here
too
I'll
take
a
first
stab
at
it,
but
but
that
we
do
put
that
in
all
ordinances
and
no
it
does
not
mean
that
saying
yes
on
the
ballot
measure
is
in
the
best
interest
of
public
health
and
safety.
It's
saying
putting
this
measure
before
the
votes
is,
and
it's
more
of
a
legal
requirement.
So
teresa
is
probably
going
to
be
able
to
give
you
a
more
clear
answer.
M
Rachel
for
that
on
that,
for
a
second
kathy
shouldn't,
there
be
language
that
that
says,
in
effect,
that
the
petitioners
believe
it
is
necessary
for
life,
health
and
safety,
as
opposed
to
the
blanket
statement
that
it
is.
L
Or
we
could
another
alternative,
is
we
could
say
if
you
wanted
that
it's
putting
this
measure
on
the
ballot
is
required
by
law
and
therefore
necessary?
I
mean
we
could
talk
about
what
it
actually
is,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
ever
want
to
give
the
implication
by
you
adopting
ordinances,
to
put
things
on
the
ballot
that
you're
advocating
a
vote
for
or
against,
and
while
teresa's
answering
too,
because
I
belie
there's
charter
requirements
for
this
language
and
I
miss
checklist
what
they
are.
J
And
I'm
just
gonna
before
theresa
answers,
mark's
question.
If
I
may,
I
don't
know
that
we
can
know
whether
petitioners
think
that
this
is
necessary
for
health
safety
and
welfare
like
they
may
just
you
know,
prefer
it,
but
not
think
that,
and
I
don't
think
their
their
referendum
in
you
know
necessarily
said
that,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
put
those
words
in
their
mouth
necessarily
and
positive.
J
Q
So
can't
be
exactly
right
on
this,
in
that
what
we're
saying
is
putting
these
putting
this
question
on
the
ballot
is
necessary
for
health
safety
and-
and
you
know,
kathy's,
having
a
look
to
see
if
she
can
identify
a
charter
provision
that
requires
this,
but
it
but
it's.
Q
It
is
not
a
statement
at
all
about
about
the
substance
of
the
measure
so
much
as
putting
the
measure
on
the
ballot.
J
To
casually
read
this
and
be
like,
oh
council
says
that
this
referendum
is
necessary
to
protect
the
public
health
safety
and
welfare,
and
I
wouldn't
want
anybody
to
point
to
that
as
any
indication
that
we
think
that,
because
I
can't
say
that
everybody
on
council
agrees
with
me,
but
I
think
the
opposite
is
true.
So
I'm
just
concerned,
we.
B
J
That
sounds
great
and
I
had
one
or
two
other
questions.
Okay,
go.
J
Okay,
in
the
let's
see
ordinance
8546,
where
we
are
cleaning
up
some
some
issues,
I
think
attendant
to
even
number
years.
There's
language
in
here
that
that
changes
to
say
the
mayor
shall
serve
until
a
successor
is
duly
chosen
and
qualified.
J
I
guess
like
what,
if
nobody
runs
for
mayor
like
shell
sounds,
like
I
mean
if
I
were
the
sitting
mayor,
I
might
I'm
not
I'm
not
necessarily
wanting
to
serve
longer,
so
I
just
wanted
to
vet
what
that
is
saying.
The
mayor
shall
serve.
L
Well,
the
the
the
mayor
elected
the
terms
are
the
terms:
don't
change
with
the
people,
so,
for
instance,
if
somebody
resigns
january
1st,
the
term
still
goes
to
the
following
november
or
whenever
the
november
was
going
to
go.
So
the
reference
is
to
the
term.
It's
not
indentured
servitude
and
that's
what
we
were
trying
to
correct
to
make
it
not
indented
servitude.
So
we're
talking
about
the
term
goes
two
years.
If
the
person
wants
to
resign,
they
you
know
they
are
allowed
to.
It's
charger
doesn't
require
it
now.
E
E
I
did
have
a
comment
instead
of
a
question
of
making
but
you're
saying
that
you're
going
to
come
back
to
rachel's
question,
but
my
thought
is
the
ballot
measure
language
did
we
work
with?
You
know
the
petitioners
on
that
language
and,
if
we're
going
to
change
it,
do
we
need
to
go
back
to
them
and
have
that
discussion
so
that
there
is
no?
E
L
Right
that
what
the
charter
requires
is
that
there
is
an
initiative
that
the
council
has
to
cons.
I'm
sorry,
the
staff
has
to
consult
with
the
committee
about,
but
not
for
a
referendum.
There's
no
requirement
to
do
that
and
we
did
not
do
it
for
this
one.
We
just
took
their
language
off
of
their
petitions.
J
B
R
R
No
participants
will
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,
obscenity,
racial
abstracts
and
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
meeting
are
prohibited
and
participants
are
required
to
sign
up
to
speak
using
the
name.
They're
commonly
known
by
individuals
must
display
their
whole
name
before
being
allowed
to
speak
online,
if
only
your
first
name
is
showing
up
in
zoom.
Please
use
the
q
a
feature
in
zoom
to
share
your
whole
name,
and
please
know
that
only
audio
testimony
is
currently
permitted.
B
Or
dog
drama?
Okay,
so,
like
I
say
we
have
47
people
signed
up
to
speak.
Each
of
them
will
get
two
minutes,
and
since
we
do
have
a
few
different
ballot
items
that
are
on
here
you
I
would
recommend
that
folks
be
clear
about
which
ballot
item
they're
talking
about
in
their
testimony
all
right.
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
launched
right
in
here.
Our
first
three
speakers
are
leslie
glustrom,
eric
budd
and
spencer
wilcox.
So
leslie
can
lead
us
off.
S
Good
evening,
council,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
opportunity.
Thank
you
so
much
for
holding
the
the
public
hearing
and
mostly
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
community.
Obviously
we're
not
all
going
to
agree
a
lot
of
the
time,
but
it
doesn't
matter.
I
am
so
grateful
to
you
all
for
your
hard
work,
so
thank
you
so
much
and
of
course,
to
the
staff
for
everything.
S
S
I'm
sympathetic
to
the
assumption
that
somehow
the
only
way
we
can
address
the
flooding
is
by
working
with
cu
and
letting
them
put
a
lot
of
building
into
a
like
our
our
best
flood
plain.
Frankly-
and
I
don't
think
those
are
good
assumptions.
So
let's
have
that
discussion
again,
let's
really
think
about
it
and,
let's
not
assume
that
cu
has
to
build
there
or
that
we
have
to
do
the
annexation
in
order
to
get
flood
control.
S
None
of
those
assumptions
actually
have
to
be
if
cu
would
see
the
world
differently,
and
I
think
they
should,
because
education
is
going
to
be
very
different
in
this
century
than
it
was
in
the
last
century.
I
think
bricks
and
mortar
will
be
much
less
important,
so
let's
not
destroy
our
last
our
excellent
floodplain
for
some
bricks
and
mortar
on
even
year
elections.
I'm
opposed
to
even
your
elections.
S
I
know
a
lot
of
the
councils
forum,
but
I
would
really
like
to
see
these
robust
discussions
for
local
measures
and
finally,
on
the
cap
tax.
Thank
you
so
much.
This
is
oddly,
just
beginning
really
appreciate
the
work
that
staff
has
done
to
get
us
to
this
point
going
forward.
I
am
hoping
that
council
will.
I
know.
You've
had
so
many
issues,
but
please
engage
make
sure.
We
have
strong
metrics
that
we
have
strong
community
engagement
on
strategic
planning.
Let's
not
have
positions
down
at
the
public
utilities.
S
T
T
We
have
to
accept
the
simple
fact
that
off-cycle
elections
suppress
the
vote
by
aligning
our
local
boulder
election
date
with
state
and
federal
elections.
We
can
nearly
double
the
number
of
people
that
are
participating
in
our
local
democracy,
and
I
want
to
highlight
an
important
detail
about
that
statement.
It's
not
just
moving
elections
to
even
years.
That
makes
a
difference.
In
fact,
some
cities
have
elections
in
the
spring
of
even
years,
which
are
also
off
cycle
and
suppress
the
vote.
The
policy
itself
is
moving
elections
to
align
with
the
state
and
federal
elections.
T
So
I
would
encourage
city
council
to
to
look
and
up
consider
updating
the
ballot
question
and
the
charter
language
to
reflect
this
language
as
a
as
that
is
the
definition
of
the
change
rather
than
moving
elections
to
even
years.
So
thank
you
again
for
moving
forward
with
this
item.
You
know,
as
we
have
studied
when
similar
measures
have
been
on
the
ballot.
In
nearly
every
other
city.
We
have
researched
it's
passed
with
greater
than
60-70
of
the
vote
and
we
are
super
excited
to
help
boulder
make
this
change.
Thank
you.
B
U
Hi
everybody,
my
name
is
andrew
harris.
I've
been
in
the
community
for
about
six
years,
but
as
a
grad
student
and
now
as
a
working
professional,
trying
to
start
a
family
over
that
time.
I've
become
increasingly
involved
and
invested
here
in
boulder,
including
politically
via
get
out
the
boat
efforts
with
boca
towns.
U
As
a
result
of
both
of
these
things,
I
strongly
support
the
effort
to
move
municipal
elections
to
even
years
as
anyone
who
has
participated
in
get
out
the
boat
ever
knows.
It
takes
a
huge
amount
of
time,
money
and
and
effort
to
actually
get
people
to
do
the
work
of
voting,
checking
their
registrations
filling
out
ballots,
graphing,
those
ballots
oftentimes,
even.
A
U
They
have
both
the
organizing
infrastructure
and
the
media
power
to
rally
their
prospective
voters
to
the
polls
every
two
to
four
years,
and
even
they
struggle
a
lot
with
getting
turnout
and
all
that
infrastructure
doesn't
exist
for
local
elections,
so
we're
compounding
this
problem
and
actually
driving
full
turnout
by
keeping
our
elections
in
off
years,
where
they
essentially
provide
not
another
opportunity,
but
another
issue
for
other
people
to
deal
with
at
a
time
where
we're
reckoning
with
the
impacts
of
voting
expression
at
the
national
level.
U
I
think
boulder
really
has
an
opportunity
to
lead
the
country
in
engaging
or
in
encouraging
voter
engagement,
eliminating
the
additional
time
and
energy
needed
to
organize
another
year
of
turnout
by
aligning
municipal
elections
with
the
two
year
cycle
takes
one
more
speed
bump
out
of
the
way
for
prospective
voters,
that's
good
for
all
of
us.
As
a
result,
I
strongly
supported
the
measure
to
move
our
municipal
elections
to
even
years.
Thank
you.
W
Hi
everyone-
this
is
sarah
don
haynes
of
south
boulder.
I
am
really
excited
to
speak
to
you
on
these
issues
in
our
community.
We
have
a
year
ago
released-
or
I
should
say
the
ipcc-
released
a
daunting
report
about
how
little
time
we
have
to
preserve
planetary
conditions
for
our
civilization.
W
If
emissions
continue
at
the
current
rate,
we
likely
have
five
and
a
half
years
until
we
cross
1.5
degrees,
c
warming
of
threshold,
and
that's
that's
a
significant
impetus
for
us
to
say
no
on
the
repealing
su
south
and
getting
our
community
to
be
able
to
live
car
free.
W
I
also
am
tired
of
losing
on
climate
change
and
housing
justice,
so
I'm
going
back
to
grad
school
or
I'm
starting
grad
school,
and
I'm
going
to
be
studying
media
and
public
engagement,
because
we
need
new
tools
to
engage
our
community
and
to
educate-
and
you
know
I
think,
starting
with
even
your
elections,
and
I
can't
support
that
anymore,
because
it's
just
to
me
really
common
sense
evolution
to
include
more
people-
and
you
know,
we've
got
to
engage
our
young
people
in
being
a
part
of
governance
and
they
feel
really
disempowered
and
they
feel,
like
you,
know,
the
the
messaging
that
they
don't
matter
and
and
the
world
that
we're
giving
them
you
know
is
leading
to
the
highest
rates
of
suicide
between
10
and
24
year
olds
that
we've
ever
seen.
W
So
you
know
we
need
to
also
support
the
library-
and
I
know
it's
out
of
the
council's
hands,
but
I
think
that
that
is
one
of
our
other
great
resources
for
taking
care
of
our
community
and
our
planet.
Thank
you.
So
much.
X
J
Mayor,
do
you
mind
if
I
ask
sarah
dawn
hands
a
follow-up
question
just
wanted
to
clarify,
sir
don
if
you're
still
there,
you
said,
I
can't
support
that
anymore
about
even
your
elections,
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
I
interpreted
that
as
you
can't
you
couldn't
possibly
support
it
any
more
than
you
do
not
that
you've
withdrawn
your
support
from
it.
Oh.
W
Thank
you
for
clarifying.
No,
I'm
super
stoked
about
the
opportunity
to
engage
more
voters
through
even
year.
Elections.
J
B
Y
Y
It
would
be
challenging
to
convince
people
that
it
would
somehow
be
better
if
fewer
people
were
aware
that
a
local
election
was
happening.
If
a
less
representative
minority
of
our
electorate
was
responsible
for
choosing
boulder's
representatives,
people
would
ask
how
having
fewer
voters
participate
in
our
democracy
would
be
more
representative
of
the
will
of
the
people
or
how
it
would
ensure
better
outcomes
in
response.
Y
Odd-Year
election
advocates
might
argue
that
voter
quality
is
better
than
voter
quantity
that
only
those
who
have
sufficient
interest
and
ability
to
dedicate
some
vague,
but
substantial
amount
of
time
and
effort
to
extensively
research.
Local
candidates
have
somehow
earned
the
exclusive
right
to
vote
for
boulder
city
council.
Y
Y
However,
these
so-called
uninformed
voters
are
the
same
americans.
We
trust
to
choose
our
country's
president
and
congress
colorado's
governor
and
the
state
legislator,
our
boulder
county
commissioners,
along
with
city
county
and
state
ballot
measures.
Older
voters
would
recognize
that
making
participation
in
city
council
elections
more
challenging
by
moving
those
to
odd
years
would
mean
that
busy
working
people
and
families,
people
of
color,
renters
students
and
people
with
lower
incomes
would
have
less
representation
in
local
decision
making.
B
AA
Hello,
council
and
staff-
I
am
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
moving
boulders
municipal
elections
to
even
years.
Modern
life
is
incredible
and
overwhelming
we
have
opportunities
our
grandparents
couldn't
have
dreamed
of
and
have
to
balance
competing
priorities.
They
could
not
have
found
the
number
of
things
the
average
american
needs
to
remember
and
remember
to
do
every
day
is
simply
unimaginable
in
previous
eras.
AA
Most
difficult
of
all
is
the
constant
effort
to
balance
our
immediate
needs
against
longer
term
goals.
For
many
of
us
keeping
bills
paid,
families
cared
for
and
our
homes
intact
is
a
more
than
full-time
job.
So
it's
no
wonder
many
of
us
feel
a
pinch
of
guilt
when
we
think
about
the
things
which
are
important
to
us,
but
simply
don't
get
the
time
they
deserve
in
our
daily
schedule.
AA
AA
Folks
do
care
and
the
increase
in
voter
participation
when
jurisdictions
switch
to
even
your
elections
shows
this,
but
life
is
complicated
and
so
is
voting
even
in
a
state
like
colorado.
We
must
track
election
cycles,
candidates
and
issues
understand
deadlines
for
registration,
address
changes
and
ballot
return.
All
that,
without
neglecting
any
of
our
other
responsibilities.
AA
Switching
to
even
year,
elections
allows
people
to
consolidate
this
process
with
the
national
election
cycle,
while
also
reducing
the
likelihood
of
confusion
around
calendar
dates.
Our
opportunities
are
incredible
and
incredibly
complicated.
It
just
doesn't
make
sense
not
to
simplify
everything.
We
can,
let's
switch
boulder
to
even
your
elections
and
make
all
our
lives
a
tiny
bit
less
complicated.
AA
AB
Thank
you.
My
name
is
katie
farnan.
I
support
the
even
year
election
measure
for
increasing
voter
turnout,
washington,
post
march
13,
2021
headline
arizona,
gop
lawmaker
says
the
quality
of
a
vote
matters.
Critics
say
that's
straight
out
of
jim
crow
arizona,
gop
state
rep
john
kavanagh
is
quoted
as
follows:
not
everybody
wants
to
vote
and
if
somebody
is
uninterested
in
voting,
that
probably
means
they're
totally
uninformed
on
the
issues.
Quantity
is
important,
but
we
have
to
look
at
quality
of
the
votes
as
well
national
review
april
6,
2021
headline.
AB
AB
Newsweek
april
7th
2021
headline
concerns
about
uninformed
voters
smack
of
jim
crow,
mississippi
gop
secretary
of
state,
mike
watson,
is
quoted
as
follows.
Think
of
all
those
woke
college
university
students
now
who
will
automatically
be
registered
to
vote
whether
they
want
to
or
not,
you've
got
an
uninformed
citizen
who
may
not
be
prepared
and
ready
to
vote
so
serious
question
to
the
council.
What
the
heck
is
a
quality
vote,
is
it
voter
age
or
education?
Is
it
housing
status?
Is
it
race?
AB
What
is
it?
Is
it
a
vote?
That's
aged
like
fine
wine
or
cheese.
What's
the
answer
and
who's
in
charge
of
this
quality
control?
Anyway,
I
have
questions
the
folks
who
oppose
increasing
increasing
voter
participation
here
have
used
the
quality
vote
argument
and
I
really
think
they
should
define
it.
I
think
people
want
to
know
what
that
is
thanks.
AC
Hello,
my
name
is
kevin
mcwilliams,
I'm
a
20-year
resident
of
boulder
hello,
I'm
kevin
mcwilliams,
I'm
a
20-year
resident
of
boulder
thanks
for
giving
me
an
opportunity
to
speak
tonight
in
support
of
moving
municipal
elections
to
even
years.
Democracy
in
america
is
under
threat
today
in
ways
that
it
has
not
been
since
the
civil
war
and
public
trust
in
the
government
and
the
democratic
process.
Is
it
really
a
dangerous
low
at
this
time?
Last
year,
when
I
was
canvassing
for
boulder
city
elections,
I
had
one
really
common
reaction
from
voters.
AC
I
spoke
to
about
the
2021
election,
which
was
surprise
and
disappointment
that
the
city
chooses
to
have
city
council
elections
on
odd
years.
As
others
have
said,
election
data
shows
that
turnout
in
odd
year,
local
elections
is
up
to
50
percent
lower
than
in
even
your
national
elections.
Many
voters,
including
myself,
perceive
that
this
is
intended
actually
as
a
backdoor
way
to
cut
out
all,
but
the
most
committed
voters
from
the
process
and
exclude
them
from
having
an
influence
on
city
policies
that
directly
affect
their
daily
lives.
AC
Conducting
local
elections
in
odd
years
is
directly
contradictory
to
that
goal,
because
it
relies
on
the
voters
having
to
go
out
of
their
way
to
make
sure
that
they
are
registered
at
their
current
address
and
then
to
engage
politically
outside
of
the
normal
even
year.
Election
cycle
having
separate
elections
for
city
council
on
low
turnout
years
makes
boulder
city
government
less
representative
of
boulder
as
a
whole,
and
many
voters
are
discouraged
from
participating
or
taking
part
in
city
governance
by
this
particular
policy.
AC
You
know
more
voters
being
engaged
in
the
process
means
more
of
the
public
engaged
with
what
the
city
is
doing
and
generally
a
more
healthy
democracy.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
having
the
greatest
number
of
bolder
voters
participating
in
city
elections
is
better
for
democracy
and
that
goal
is
most
directly
aided
by
moving
city
council
elections
to
even
years.
B
Thanks
very
much
kevin
appreciate
that
I
understand
jill
grant
was
not
in
the
meeting.
So
next
we
have
steve
whitaker,
lisa,
sweeney,
moran
and
theater
coming.
AD
Mayor
and
members
of
council,
I
am
steve
whitaker
and
a
boulder
resident,
I'm
here
to
speak
in
support
of
putting
the
new
cap
tax
on
the
ballot.
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
in
a
recent
city
survey,
city-funded
survey
of
nearly
1200
residents
asking
for
a
ranking
of
issues
in
order
of
importance,
it
showed
respondents
ranked
addressing
climate
change
impacts
well
ahead
of
all
other
issues,
including
affordable
housing,
crime
prevention
and
homelessness.
AD
AD
It's
sad
to
see
us
fund
projects
that
reduce
greenhouse
gases
on
one
hand
and,
on
the
other
hand,
fun
projects
such
as
the
cu
cell
annexation
that
can't
help
but
increase
greenhouse
gas
production
within
the
city.
It's
like
running
the
furnace
and
air
conditioner.
At
the
same
time,
all
it
does
is
unnecessarily
increase
costs
of
older
taxpayers,
while
undoing
some
of
the
good
work
we
are
doing
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases.
AD
B
AE
Hi
guys,
I'm
so
sorry
about
that.
I
need
to
change
that
boulder
chamber
chamber.
I
served
as
the
interim
senior
director
of
policy
programs
for
the
boulder
chamber
recently
and
I'm
on
my
phone
in
virginia,
so
I
can't
seem
to
change
it
from
here,
but
my
name
is
joel
grano.
I
am
a
former
boulder
city,
councilwoman
former
director
of
community
affairs
for
congressman
jonah
goose.
I
am
currently
one
of
your
housing
commissioners
and
I'm
also
the
proud
chairwoman
of
the
people
for
voter
turnout
campaign.
AE
You
know
I
came
to
voter
to
politics
really
to
local
community
work
through
getting
out
the
vote
through
new
era
colorado.
I
served
for
five
years
of
war
as
a
board
member
and
we
asked
ourselves
every
single
day.
The
one
simple
question:
how
can
we
get
more
people
voting?
Is
it
through
more
ballot
drop
boxes?
Is
it
through
easier
registration
and
you
know,
is
it
through
trick-or-treating
and
instead
of
asking
for
candy
telling
people
to
vote
getting
out
the
vote?
AE
Engaging
more
people
in
our
democracy,
I
believe,
is
the
number
one
thing
that
we
can
do
to
to
better.
Our
our
elected
officials
that
we
have-
and
you
know
the
people's
engagement
in
in
policy
work.
You
know
some
have
said
that
they
think
that
this
will
take
away
from.
You
know
that
local
issues
are
unique
and
that
somehow
moving
them
to
even
years
will
will
take
away
from
the
local
conversation.
AE
But
as
a
city
councilwoman
and
as
the
front
line
for
congressman
the
goose,
I
really
saw
that
people
don't
silo
issues
from
what's
a
local
issue.
What's
a
state,
what's
a
federal,
they
think
about
issues
in
terms
of
what
affects
them,
so
whether
it
was
jonah,
goose
or
myself
as
a
city
councilwoman,
the
questions
they
would
ask
is:
how
are
you
going
to?
You
know,
change
homelessness.
How
are
we
going
to
be
safer?
What
are
you
going
to
do
about
transportation?
AE
What's
housing
going
to
look
like?
How
are
we
going
to
protect
protect
reproductive
rights,
and
so
all
the
time
congressman
august
would
have
joint
meetings
with
local
officials,
state
officials
and
himself,
because
we
knew
that
questions
would
come
in.
That
would
be
local
state
and
federal
and
we
could
bounce
them
off.
You
know
what
aaron
mayor
brockett,
take
that
one
steve
fenberg
take
that
one
jill.
J
Feel
free
to
email,
any
remaining
comments
to
us
and
absolutely
mayor
brockett
has
stepped
away
for
a
minute,
so
I'm
gonna
slide
in
here.
I
believe
our
next
speaker
is
lisa.
Sweeney,
mirren
and
on
deck
will
be
theodore
conan.
P
Hi
all
lisa
sweeney
moran
vice
president
of
the
boulder
valley
school
board,
I'm
speaking
today
in
an
individual
capacity
about
my
strong
support
for
moving
to
even
year,
elections
at
the
city
level
and
potentially
at
the
school
district
level
as
well
in
the
near
future.
I'm
hopeful
that
boulder
will
implement
this
change
and
increase
voter
participation.
P
In
so
doing,
boulder's
role
as
a
leader
in
the
state
will
pave
the
way
for
other
municipalities
to
follow
and
for
school
districts
to
advocate
at
the
state
level
for
the
autonomy
to
do
the
same,
the
status
quo
isn't
working
at
both
the
city
level
and
the
district
level.
We
know
that
we
are
not
getting
the
participation
in
our
elections
that
we
need.
Nor
are
we
getting
participation
that
is
representative
of
our
community.
P
We
want
city
councils
and
school
boards
that
are
made
up
of
passionate,
committed
people
who
meaningfully
represent
their
community.
The
more
participation
that
we
have,
the
stronger
our
candidates
and
our
mandates
will
be.
Even
your
elections
will
make
us
each
work
harder,
dig,
deeper
and
connect
even
more
closely
with
the
people.
We
serve
people
care
about
what
is
happening
in
our
city,
people
care
about
what
is
happening
in
our
schools.
P
J
AF
Good
evening,
members
of
council
on
the
public,
I'm
ted
koenig
and
I'm
calling
from
beijing
china.
I
lived
in
boulder
for
nine
years
and
I
continue
to
vote
there.
It's
easy
to
vote
in
colorado
and
I'm
proud
to
report
that
our
state
makes
voting
internationally
much
easier
than
in
most
states.
Still,
I
don't
typically
receive
voter
guides
or
the
like
until
the
election
is
well
passed
and
while
I
get
an
email
reminder
or
two,
it's
quite
easy
to
miss
that
election
day
is
coming.
AF
I
imagine
many
voters
in
boulder
experience
the
same
when
they
change
address
of
the
like.
I
think
that
might
have
happened
to
me
in
my
first
few
years
in
boulder
as
well
having
local
elections
in
the
same
even
years
as
large
elections
will
make
it
much
easier
to
remember
when
election
day
is
coming
and
that's
often
the
first
step
to
looking
at
the
issues
and
deciding
how
to
vote.
AF
I've
heard
a
counterpoint
that
state
and
federal
elections
deprive
local
issues
of
attention
and
coverage,
but
I
have
trouble
imagining
how
much
information
I
need
as
a
voter
that
I
couldn't
still
guess.
I
can
still
track
down
information
in
a
voter
guide
and
find
an
article
or
two
in
the
camera
of
the
weekly
or
the
beat.
I
can't
imagine
that,
wouldn't
they
wouldn't
run
at
least
a
few
articles
and
editorials
on
local
issues.
AF
How
much
more
do
we,
as
voters
really
need
to
make
a
decision?
I
was
pretty
engaged
in
local
issues
when
I
lived
in
colorado
and
I'm
honestly
not
sure
whether
I
made
me
a
better
voter
rather
than
just
more
plugged
in
my
distance
here
gives
me
some
perspective
and
more
information
isn't
always
better.
What's
needed
is
the
right
information
to
make
a
choice?
J
Thanks
so
much
ted,
especially
for
being
up
what
had
to
be
very
early
or
very
late,
next
up,
kathy
joyner,
then
thomas
falls
and
kristen
eller.
AG
My
name
is
kathy
joyner
and
I'm
a
member
of
the
south
boulder
creek
action
group,
which
has
been
advocating
for
flood
mitigation
for
almost
nine
years
since
the
2013
floods,
I'm
speaking
to
the
referendum
related
to
cu
south
tonight,
when
the
flood
waters
overtopped
us
36,
creating
a
flash
flood
situation
in
2013,
none
of
us
could
have
imagined
what
was
about
to
happen
to
our
homes
or
our
lives.
Speaking
as
only
one
of
many
residents
affected,
I
had
nine
feet
of
water
in
my
house
on
koala
drive
to
this
day.
AG
Almost
nine
years
later,
many
of
my
neighbors
have
not
felt
confident
enough
to
restore
their
properties
to
pre-flood
condition,
but
an
even
more
significant
consideration
is
the
risk
to
human
life.
When
one
of
these
events
occurs
and
as
we
know,
this
type
of
significant
flooding
of
south
boulder
creek
has
occurred
repeatedly
in
the
past
and
will
again
evacuation
and
access
to
the
area
is
almost
impossible
in
one
of
these
events
and
major
highways.
In
this
case,
us
36
and
foothills
are
rendered
impassable.
AG
The
continuing
danger
this
leaves
residents
in
is
known
and
significant.
After
years
of
hard
work
by
the
city,
significant
process
is
being
made
in
mitigating
the
potential
for
devastating
future
impacts
to
residents,
safety
and
property.
I've
spoken
before
council
numerous
times
over
the
past
nine
years
and
want
to
thank
you,
the
city,
boards
and
staff
for
the
outstanding
job
they
have
done
in
expertly
moving
this
critical
project
along.
AG
AH
Greetings
everyone.
This
is
thomas
wells
first,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
and
council
members
for
taking
time
to
work
on
the
issue
of
even
your
elections.
I
support
putting
this
issue
before
the
voters.
This
fall
as
many
studies
and
local
data
have
shown.
Even
your
elections
greatly
increase
voter
turnout.
AH
There
are
many
reasons
to
be
excited
about
greater
voter
turnout,
but
one
that
is
compelling
to
me
is
that
it
reduces
the
power
and
influence
of
small
groups
when
fewer
people
vote,
it's
easier
for
a
small
group
to
influence
influence
the
majority
of
voters.
When
more
people
vote,
we
take
away
power
from
those
small
groups
and
return
it
to
the
greater
populace.
AH
As
we've
seen
recently
on
the
national
stage,
relinquishing
power
is
often
uncomfortable,
but
it
is
a
requirement
for
effective
democracy,
shifting
power
from
the
hands
of
those
who
currently
have
it
to
those
who
don't
won't
be
easy,
but
to
quote
the
mandalorian.
This
is
the
way,
almost
by
definition,
the
people
you
will
hear
from
tonight
are
those
who
align
with
some
local,
politically
interested
group
or
another
myself
included.
AH
Increasing
voter
turnout
will
make
our
jobs
more
difficult.
We
will
have
to
convince
more
people
of
the
merits
of
our
cause,
we'll
have
to
engage
with
more
voters
and
spend
more
time
educating
them
on
the
issues.
This
will
be
hard
work,
but
it's
worth
it
in
listening
to
our
voices
tonight.
Please
consider
who
do
you
hear
fighting
to
retain
power
and
who
do
you
hear
enthusiastically
offering
to
share
it?
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
so
I'm
back
thanks
mayor
protem
friend,
for
taking
over
there.
J
You're
welcome
and
just
one
heads
up,
it's
it
looks
like
maybe
kurt
nordback
is
not
present
and
we're
wondering
if,
if
kristen
nordbach
is
and
if
they're
using
the
same
zoom
accounts,
maybe
we
could
have
them
clarify
that.
B
AI
I
support
democracy
and
ensuring
that
our
elected
officials
represent
the
people
that
they
govern
so
there's
a
significant
reduction
in
the
number
of
active
voters
in
all
your
elections
in
comparison
to
even
your
elections.
This
is
known
it's
shown,
and
it's
really
no
surprise,
because
even
your
elections
have
national
media
coverage.
They
have
national
politics
and
they
also
really
expensive,
get
out
the
vote
campaigns
that
we
just
can't
counter
on
the
local
level
and
these
get
out
the
vote.
Campaigns
really
assist.
AI
Voters
so
obviously
don't
have
this,
which
directly
impacts
voter
turnout
so
to
ensure
we're
electing
council
members
that
represent
the
people
boulder.
That
means
we
have
to
increase
voter
turnout.
Therefore
easy
answer.
I
support
democracy
and
I
hope,
as
elected
officials
that
represent
the
people
boulder,
you
would
also
support
democracy
and
for
any
that,
don't
I
just
question
who
you're
representing
and
why
you
don't
want
to
be
elected
by
more
bolder
voters,
which
is
why
I
support
moving
to
even
your
elections.
Thank
you.
B
Mr
christine,
okay,
we're
not
seeing
kurt
in
in
the
list,
but
we
do
see
krista
so
christopher.
Can
you
go
next?
Please.
AJ
Hi
this
is
kristen
ortvec.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
oh
great.
First,
thank
you
all
for
your
tireless
work
on
council.
I
believe
in
democracy.
As
I
know,
you
do
too
and
in
that
spirit
I'm
really
strongly
in
favor
of
the
ballot
issue
to
move
municipal
elections
to
even
years.
This
will
encourage
more
participation
and
strengthen
our
democracy.
AJ
The
more
people
vote
in
local
elections,
the
more
they
feel
part
of
our
community
and
the
better.
They
are
represented,
as
we
learned
with
mail-in
ballots
here
in
colorado,
the
easier
we
make
it
to
participate
in
elections,
the
more
people
will
vote.
This
results
in
policies,
more
reflective
of
and
responsive
to
the
people.
AJ
B
Not
yet
we'll
come
back
to
him
as
soon
as
he
pops
up.
Okay,
thanks.
Thank
you
thanks
krista
next
we
have
sherry
hack,
evan,
rabbits
and
linda
quickly,.
AK
Hi,
I'm
a
22
year
boulder
resident.
I
do
not
support
even
you're
changing
our
city
council
elections
to
even
year
cycle.
You
know
what
this
looks
like.
It
looks
like
a
sneaky
move
for
some
of
you
to
extend
your
terms,
and
if
you
were
really
serious
about
this,
why
not
do
it
in
2020,
instead
of
2024,
what
a
fantasy
that
would
be
to
be
able
to
vote
some
of
you
out
this
year
and
what
about
members?
Who
don't
want
to
serve
an
extra
year?
AK
What's
the
cost
of
taxpayers
for
special
special
elections
to
fill
the
unused
terms?
We
don't
want
to
orphan
school
board
elections.
We
want
to
be
able
to
focus
adequately
on
our
local
elections
and
not
be
distracted
by
midterm
and
presidential
elections.
A
lot
of
people
don't
have
the
bandwidth.
For
that.
AK
AK
In
addition,
I
support
putting
to
the
on
the
ballot
to
repeal
see
yourself
and
also
regarding
your
climate
tax.
I
don't
support
a
climate
tax.
While
you
support
building
750
000
square
feet
in
a
wetlands,
foresee
you
south,
and
you
do
nothing
about
cleaning
up
the
trash
and
the
plastic
and
the
human
excrement
in
this
in
the
boulder
creek.
Thank
you.
B
Sherry
all
right,
evan
ravitz,
is
with
drawns,
we've
got
linda
quigley
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
kurtner.
AL
Today,
honestly,
I
have
to
agree
with
the
previous
speaker
and
ask
you
to
stop
with
the
idea
of
switching
the
elections
really
really
really.
With
the
current
polarization.
AL
There
could
not
be
a
worse
time
to
lose
the
details
and
significant
significance
of
our
local
issues
and
why
on
earth
would
we
ever
want
to
do
so
since
colorado
mails
ballots
out
to
absolutely
everyone
who
registers
and
everyone
can
mail
or
drop
them
back
to
city
clerk's
office?
Why
do
this
there
aren't
votes
that
are
being
suppressed?
AL
AL
So
how
is
it
that
we're
suppressing
anyone
and
I'm
trying
not
to
get
frustrated
here?
I
don't
think
the
residents
of
boulder
want
this
election
switch.
Finally,
I
will
work
hard
to
encourage
residents
to
vote
yes
to
set
aside
the
annexation
plan
agreed
to
on
a
sham
emergency
basis
by
council.
AL
I've
never
had
more
reason
to
not
believe
in
my
city.
Government
building
in
a
wetlands
is
heresy
during
catastrophic
climate
change
and
a
sixth
grade
extinction
event,
especially
by
a
university
that
fires,
the
climate
scientist
who's
measuring
the
pollutants
in
our
front
range
atmosphere.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
in
the
staff
of
boulder
city.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks,
linda-
and
I
believe
we
have
kurt
norm
back
in
the
meeting
now,
if
we
can
go
to
him
and
then
after
kurt
will
be
judd,
valesky
and
jennifer
jacob.
AM
AM
It
hasn't
been
a
smooth
journey,
but
as
voters
have
become
a
larger
and
larger
portion
of
the
population,
our
democracy
has
become
stronger,
fairer,
more
resilient.
More
just
at
the
beginning
of
our
country.
Voting
was
generally
limited
to
white
male
property
owners.
Then,
perhaps,
surprisingly,
president
andrew
jackson
worked
to
expand
suffrage
for
non-property
owners
in
1870.
AM
The
15th
amendment
nominally
gave
black
men
the
vote,
but
in
practice
jim
crow
took
this
right
away
from
them
for
close
to
a
century.
The
snyder
act
of
1924
gave
all
native
americans
citizenship
and
therefore
the
right
to
vote,
but
state
level
restrictions
continued
to
limit
indigenous
people's
suffrage
for
decades,
women
finally
won
the
vote.
The
vote
with
the
19th
amendment
almost
80
years
after
lucretia
ma
and
elizabeth
katie
stanton
started
the
women's
suffrage
movement
in
this
country.
AM
We
got
the
voting
rights
act
in
1965
and
the
26th
amendment
lowering
the
voting
age
to
18
in
1971..
Today,
most
adult
citizens
have
the
legal
right
to
vote
with
notable
exceptions,
including
those
in
prison
and
convicted
felons.
Unfortunately,
we've
seen
renewed
efforts
in
voter
suppression
around
the
country.
The
struggle
continues,
but
what's
clear
is
that
democracy
is
stronger
when
more
people
vote
voting,
engages
citizens
and
increases
our
investment
in
government
and
our
democracy.
AM
B
AN
Hi
there
do
you
can
hear
me.
Yes,
great
thanks
thanks
for
the
time
I
am
here
to
speak
about
against
the
idea
of
moving
to
even
year
elections.
AN
I
don't
have
my
thoughts
terribly
formed
here,
but
I
I'd
love
to
just
take
sherry
hack's
comments.
Previously
she
put
it
in
words
much
better
than
into
words
much
better
than
I
can
here,
but
to
try
to
pull
a
couple
of
saline
points
out
of
there.
It's
pretty
unclear
to
me
how
the
existing
citizenry
here
is
is
having
its
votes
suppressed
when
we
fully
support
mail
and
ballot
dynamics.
AN
You
know
the
I
I
am
very
fearful
of
showing
up
on
an
even
year
and
deal
dealing
with
presidential
and
and
broader
congressional
issues
and
legislation
that
has
had
the
full
force
of
billions
and
billions
of
dollars
behind
special
interest
groups
driving
agendas.
I've
I've
always
felt
that
the
odd
year
election
cycle
that
we've
been
in
here
in
boulder
has
has
shielded
us
from
a
lot
of
that
chaos
and
increasingly
over
the
past
handful
of
elections.
So
the
idea
that
we're
suddenly
caught
up
in
that
would
just
be
terribly
sad
to
me
anyway.
B
Thanks
jen
rebecca
davies,
lisa
spaulding
and
leslie
barrett.
AO
Hello
thanks
so
much
for
the
time,
I'm
rebecca
davies
and
I'm
35
and
a
very
consistent
voter,
but
I've
actually
never
been
to
a
polling
booth.
I
grew
up
in
oregon
and
by
the
time
I
turned
18
oregon
already
had
vote
by
mail
for
all
elections,
as
it
was
the
first
state
to
do
so.
So
I
haven't
experienced
the
the
polling
booth
voting
and
I
often
take
it
for
granted
that
I
can.
AO
Can
you
continue
to
vote
by
mail
in
colorado,
but
I
really
shouldn't
because
many
people
in
the
us
don't
have
access
to
that
form
of
expanded
democracy.
I'm
grateful
to
the
people
who
worked
hard
to
put
vote
by
mail
in
place
in
both
states,
with
the
recognition
that
it
would
help.
People
like
me
participate
in
elections
consistently
much
more
consistently
than
I
frankly
would
have.
AO
Otherwise
I
see
even
your
elections
as
similarly
a
clear
step
towards
further
facilitating
voter
participation,
which
has
been
demonstrated
by
multiple
examples
around
the
country
and
the
data
from
elections
within
our
own
city.
Participation
is
much
higher
in
even
your
elections.
The
electorate
is
more
diverse
and
voters
really
really
like
it,
which
is
why
they've
passed
measures
to
implement
even
your
elections
in
large
numbers
elsewhere.
AO
Boulder
has
many
ambitious
goals,
also
around
diversity
and
equity
and
supporting
even
your
elections
is
a
way
to
take
meaningful
action
towards
those
goals.
I'm
eager
for
boulder
to
build
upon
the
good
work
done
by
others
to
increase
voter
participation
in
our
elections,
and
I'm
grateful
that
city
council
is
considering
this
measure
for
the
november
ballot.
I'm
confident
that
the
boulder
electorate
will
support
moving
to
even
your
elections.
If,
given
the
chance.
Thank
you.
AP
Not
to
place
even
your
voting
on
the
ballot
this
november,
you
would
be
far
better
off
increasing
outreach
to
those
groups
that
do
not
commonly
vote
in
our
municipal
elections
than
spending
a
large
sum
of
money
on
the
elaborate
revisions
needed
to
enact
this
change
in
our
voting
schedule.
If
it
passes
people
vote
because
they
have
an
interest
in
something
in
the
case
of
elections
for
city
council
members,
people
vote
because
they
care
about
the
future
of
our
city.
AP
The
large
number
of
older
people
who
vote
regularly
that
brian
keegan
refers
to
in
his
recent
daily
camera
guest
opinion
proves
that
people
who
live
in
boulder
long
term
vote
and
continue
to
vote
because
they
care
about
the
future
of
our
city.
I
would,
however,
question
mr
keegan's
assertion
that
many
of
these
regular
voters
are
not
just
old
but
wealthy
too.
Any
analysis
of
property
values
in
areas
where
students
live
will
show
rental
houses
that
are
valued
at
less
than
the
houses
kept
up
by
permanent
residents,
be
they
renters
or
owners.
AP
B
Thank
you,
lisa
actually,
leslie
barrett
actually
is
now
in
the
meeting
we'll
keep
on.
If
they
come
back,
we
have
andy
saylor,
rj,
boyle
and
rosemary
hegarty.
AQ
Good
evening
my
name
is
andy
saylor
and
I'm
a
resident
of
north
boulder,
I'm
speaking
this
evening
in
favor
of
allowing
our
community
to
vote
on
moving
council
elections
to
even
years.
We
stand
at
a
significant
moment
in
our
nation's
history.
Our
democracy
is
under
assault
at
every
level,
and
its
survival
is
far
from
guaranteed.
AQ
At
the
federal
level
we
have
current
and
former
leaders
who
are
actively
working
to
delegitimize
our
elections.
In
many
states
we
are
facing
laws
aimed
to
limit
and
discourage
who
can
vote
and
at
the
local
level,
we
must
contend
with
election
schedules
that
significantly
suppress
voter
turnout.
In
all
these
cases,
the
aim
is
the
same
to
win
power
by
controlling
who
votes,
rather
than
by
having
the
most
popular
ideas.
As
mr
norbuck
mentioned,
these
issues
are
not
new.
Our
nation's
founders
were
big
fans
of
this
idea
of
voter
quality.
AQ
After
all,
they
wrote
a
constitution
where
only
white
men
could
vote
and
decided
that
a
significant
portion
of
our
population
only
counted
as
three-fifths
of
a
person.
We
have
spent
the
past
235
years
working
to
correct
these
laws,
even
as
the
republican
party
seeks
to
expand
and
exploit
them.
If
we
wish
to
keep
our
democracy,
if
we
wish
to
uphold
the
principle
that
our
society
is
strongest,
when
all
constituents
have
a
voice,
we
must
fight
to
preserve
these
principles
in
boulder.
We
have
an
opportunity
to
do
our
part.
AQ
Moving
local
elections
to
even
years
brings
many
more
voices
into
the
conversation
it
makes
voting
easier
for
everyone.
It
ensures
that
all
members
of
our
community
are
represented,
and
not
just
the
white.
I
mean
right
ones.
It
will
ensure
we
select
council
candidates
on
the
basis
of
the
popularity
of
their
ideas,
rather
than
on
the
basis
of
who
turns
out
to
vote.
Our
work
to
correct
our
flawed
democracy
is
far
from
done
and
more
critical
than
ever.
AQ
AR
Good
evening
my
name
is
rj
boyle
and
I
was
a
former
co-lead
of
boulders
for
people,
which
was
a
campaign
on
the
2021
election
dedicated
to
creating
a
pro-people
boulder,
welcome
to
all,
particularly
all
voices
that
need
to
participate
in
our
democratic
processes.
For
the
very
same
reasons,
I
supported
boulders
for
people
I'm
here
to
support.
AR
Even
your
elections
for
the
city
of
boulder
data
shows
that
from
2018
to
2021,
turnout
in
even
years
is
in
the
75
to
85
percent
range,
contrasting
with
odd
year
elections,
where
turnout
is
only
in
the
48
to
50
percent
range,
more
than
twice
as
many
voters
turn
out
in
even
your
elections
because
of
the
critical
vote
votes,
boulder
rights
are
casting
at
that
time.
We
understand
more
that
participating
in
local
politics
can
be
more
important
than
doing
so
at
the
national
level.
AR
However,
local
elections
should
be
taking
place,
and
even
years,
alongside
these
national
elections,
to
encourage
turnout
in
greater
numbers
and
in
a
way
that
more
accurately
includes
and
represents
all
people
that
make
up
its
this
city.
For
those
who
assume
that
those
who
are
not
quote
staying
here
long
enough,
think
that
the
people
who
are
choosing
to
show
up
in
half
as
many
numbers
in
odd
year
elections
are
leaving
out
the
idea
that
people
are
voting
simply
out
of
convenience.
AR
If
someone's
voting
for
the
president
on
the
way
out,
they
might
pick
their
next
mayor
or
their
next
school
board
director,
although
that's
not
part
of
this
or
their
next
city,
council
representative,
with
audio
elections,
boulder's
most
underrepresented
electorates
suffer
the
greatest.
It's
been
demonstrated
that
people
like
renters
people
of
color,
lower
income,
people
and
young
people
are
consistently
underrepresented,
not
because
they
don't
live
here
long,
but
because
they
don't
have
the
chance
to
be
here
when
their
voices
need
to
be
heard.
AR
Moving.
Even
your
elections
can
close
turnout
discrepancies
for
everyone,
but
critically
for
places
where
boulder
has
the
greatest
diversity.
By
moving
to
even
your
elections,
we
protect
democracy
and
improve
the
reliability
of
our
city's
policy
making
because
we
open
civic
engagement
to
the
widest
slot
of
people
and
welcome
every
voice
possible.
In
the
conversation,
please
support
this
important
measure
and
thanks
wow.
AS
Hi,
my
name
is
rosemary
hegarty.
I
live
in
south
boulder
and
I
just
don't
get
it
on
that
moving.
You
know
the
pros
of
moving
this,
our
elections
from
awe
to
even
years.
I
don't
I
I
don't
really
feel
like
you
know,
90
or
more
of
the
people
that
are
pro
moving.
The
election
seem
to
think
that
I
am
somehow
anti-democratic
by
voting
in
an
odd
year
that
somehow
I
am
suppressing
voters
ability
to
vote
even
though
they
have
a
ballot
mailed
to
their
house.
AS
I
just
don't
get
it
and-
and
you
know
I
feel
like-
I
really
want
to
keep
my
elections
for
my
local
issues
separate
from
the
national
issue,
so
that
I
can
actually
focus
on
those,
and
I
certainly
will
not
have
time
to
volunteer
for
a
local
election.
AS
If
I
am
also
volunteering
on
a
national
election,
I
just
don't
have
time
to
do
that,
so
what
sort
of
suffering
is
going
to
happen
to
elections
if
we're
dividing
that
up
or
having
everything
happen?
At
the
same
time,
I
also
don't
understand
when
people
are
are
saying
that
there's
so
many
positive
aspects
when
it's
changed
when
98
of
the
cities
in
the
united
states
have
odd
year
local
elections.
So
where
is
the
statistics
proving
this
unbelievable
benefit
to
changing
it?
AS
I'm
also
very
opposed
to
the
fact
that
some
of
you
are
going
to
be
handed
a
five-year
term.
I
think
that
needs
to
be
taken
off
the
table.
It
is
not
fair
to
give
yourself
and
matt.
You
can
shake
your
head.
All
you
want,
I'm
totally
opposed
to
it.
I'm
also
opposed
to
this.
I'm
really
happy
to
get
a
chance
to
vote
against
your
cu
south
decision.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks
rosemary
and
I'll
just
say
that
if
people
have
questions
for
the
speaker,
that's
fine,
but
I
think
we
might
save
responses
until
the
end.
So,
okay,
thanks
all
right.
Moving
on,
we
have
mike
marsh
david
glover
and
paul
coleman.
X
I'm
mike
marsh
speaking
in
support
of
keeping
our
local
elections
on
odd-numbered
years.
I
strongly
support
higher
voter
turnout,
but
our
goal
should
be
increasing
voter
turnout.
In
odd
years,
every
registered
boulder
voter
receives
a
ballot
in
odd-numbered
years.
These
mail-in
ballots
don't
require
time
off
work
to
vote.
Every
boulder
voter
is
fully
enfranchised
to
vote
in
odd-numbered
years.
Nearly
all
u.s
cities
hold
their
municipal
elections
in
odd-numbered
years,
and
I
read
that
no
colorado
city
of
significant
size
does
local
elections
in
even
years.
X
Why
pure
cities
realize
local
elections
are
important
enough,
that
they
deserve
their
own
day
in
the
sun,
when
voters
have
the
bandwidth
and
time
to
really
focus
on
local
issues
and
candidates
and
give
them
the
attention
they
deserve,
without
the
competition
from
national
and
state
races,
but
some
propose
we
put
local
races
at
the
tail
end,
page
10
or
11
of
incredibly
long
ballots
in
even
years.
Ballot
fatigue
is
a
real
thing.
Voters
are
repelled
by
ballots
that
go
on
forever
and
many
will
skip
the
down
ballot.
Section.
X
National
and
state
races
are
typically
simple
and
binary
democrat
versus
republican.
You
select
one
typically
by
your
party.
In
contrast,
city
council
elections,
require
voters
to
select
five
candidates
from
a
crowded
pool
of
up
to
16.
They
don't
run
as
republicans
or
democrats.
Instead,
voters
must
study
each
candidate's
nuanced
positions
on
dozens
of
important
local
issues,
ditto
for
complex
local
ballot
measures,
the
devils
in
the
details
in
local
elections
and
odd-numbered
years
allow
voters
and
local
media
unfettered
space
to
drill
into
those
details
with
the
sufficient
editorial
and
community
bandwidth
for
robust,
thorough
local
conversations.
X
AT
AT
Many
of
the
opponents
of
even
your
elections
are
speaking
as
if
we
are
deciding
this
right
now.
We
are
simply
putting
this
measure
on
the
ballot
for
the
people
of
boulder
to
decide.
We
should
allow
the
people
of
boulder
to
make
the
decision
that
is
best
for
them.
The
opponents
also
like
to
point
out
that
most
cities
do
odd
year.
Elections
when
has
boulder
ever
wanted
to
be
like
most
cities.
We
want
to
be
exceptional.
We
want
to
be
trailblazers.
AT
Other
people
in
support
of
audio
elections
have
echoed
the
fact
that
voter
turnout
is
higher.
Voter
turnout
is
more
diverse.
Voter
turnout
is
more
balanced.
Why
spend
extra
money
to
try
to
reach
voters
who
don't
typically
vote
on
odd
years,
when
we
can
do
one
efficient
measure
to
increase
voter
turnout
in
a
fell
swoop?
Daddy's
data
shows
states
with
audio
elections,
end
up
spending
millions
more
as
opposed
to
states
that
line
up
their
elections
with
the
typical
national
elections.
AT
No
data
shows
that
odd
year,
voters
are
more
informed.
In
fact,
data
shows
odd
year,
elections,
favor
special
interest
groups,
and
if
I
mean
for
me,
I
want
boulder
to
be
run
and
decided
by
the
people
of
boulder,
not
special,
exclusionary
interest
groups.
Local
elections
have
a
major
impact.
They
empower
people
to
speak
on
the
issues
that
matter
to
them
most
and
affect
them
the
most,
and
I
believe
that
by
moving
to
even
your
elections,
we
will
have
a
huge
impact.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
again
put
this
on
the
ballot.
V
All
right
good
evening,
council
and
staff,
my
name
is
paul
coleman.
I
live
in
south
boulder.
We
talk
about
ordinance,
85
42,
the
climate
action
plan
tax.
V
I
want
to
slip
in
a
congratulations
to
jonathan
cohen,
on
being
appointed
to
director
of
climate
initiatives
and
just
as
council
needs
support
from
us,
the
people
council,
your
staff
need
support
from
council
and
I
really
want
you
to
think
about
in
terms
of
climate
change.
Don't
just
put
this
on
autopilot.
V
V
So
it's
something
you
as
council
really
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
we
are
making
the
progress
we
need
to
make
towards
our
climate
goals,
and
I
listened
to
all
this
talk
about
the
the
election
cycle.
There
seems
to
be
something
missed
here.
Is
that
the
odd
year
elections
are
not
going
away,
we
are
still
every
registered
boulder
county
voter
is
going
to
get
a
ballot
every
year,
these
the
election's
not
going
away.
V
B
But
I
appreciate
your
testimony.
Thank
you
all
thanks.
Next
we
have
laurie
call
jennifer,
banyan
and
christian
kerr.
AU
Hi
I'm
lori
kaul
assistant
vice
chancellor
for
local
government
and
community
engagement
at
the
university
of
colorado
boulder.
I
want
to
address
the
cu
boulder
south
referendum
this
evening.
The
university
purchased
this
property
in
1996
from
a
mining
company
based
on
future
needs.
Since
then,
engineering
studies
identified
this
area
as
the
best
place
for
a
flood
mitigation
system
to
protect
2
300
downstream
residents
in
2021.
AU
After
many
years
of
thoughtful
collaboration
in
a
thorough
engagement
process,
boulder
city
council
voted
to
annex
u-boulder
south
into
the
city
limits.
We
now
have
important
flood
protection
efforts
underway
that
will
safeguard
thousands
of
people
in
1100
homes.
The
annexation
also
allows
us
to
address
another
pressing
community
challenge:
the
availability
of
housing.
AU
It
will
enable
a
portion
of
the
land
that
lies
outside
the
floodplain
to
become
attainable,
housing
for
cu
faculty
staff
and
students.
We
want
those
who
work
and
study
in
boulder
to
be
able
to
live
here.
It
also
dedicates
five
acres
of
land
to
the
community
for
affordable
housing
open
to
those
who
qualify
based
on
income
level.
AU
Finally,
it's
important
for
people
to
know
that
119
acres,
nearly
40
percent
of
the
property,
will
be
designated
permanently
protected
city
of
boulder
open
space
with
public
access.
This
legally
binding
agreement
represents
a
strong
partnership
between
the
university
and
the
city
that
provides
significant
benefits
and
protections
for
our
community.
AU
B
Thank
you
lori.
Now
we
have
jennifer,
except
I
think
that
jennifer
bandian
is
not
here,
so
not
jennifer
christian
kerr,
max
hollingsworth
and
kristen
s.
B
All
right,
let's
see,
let's,
let's
move
on
again:
let's
try
kristen
hess
next
and
then
rosie
fabian
we'll
come
back
to
these
folks.
AV
Great
hello,
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
chance
to
speak
tonight.
My
name
is
christian
hess
and
I've
been
a
boulder
resident
for
eight
years.
I
support
the
even
year
elections.
AV
I've
found
that
boulder
works
to
make
mail-in
voting
as
easy
as
possible,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
fill
out
my
ballot
home
on
my
own
time.
From
talking
with
my
friends,
we
have
all
benefited
from
mail-in
ballots.
One
reason
I
prefer
mail-in
ballots
is
that
I
can
take
the
time
to
learn
about
the
measures
and
candidates
I'm
voting
on.
I
may
be
drawn
into
voting
by
issues
that
make
national
news
headlines,
but
filling
out
my
ballot
has
given
me
the
chance
to
learn
about
vote
and
become
more
engaged
in
local
politics.
AV
Since
many
of
my
friends
have
done
the
same,
we
then
find
ourselves
talking
about
what
we've
learned
as
we
filled
out
our
ballots
or
asked
questions
to
finish
filling
out
our
ballots.
I
think
this
unplanned
process
has
made
me
more
connected
to
boulder
over
the
years.
I've
become
more
active
voter,
but
I
will
admit
that
I
have
a
few
gaps
in
my
voting
record,
mostly
due
to
audio
election,
mostly
during
audio
elections.
AV
I've
been
motivated
to
vote
when
I
hear
about
national
issues,
but
then
I
have
had
an
opportunity
to
learn
more
about
key
issues
impacting
my
community
when
I
research
and
vote
on
local
candidates
and
measures,
I'm
really
excited
about
this
even
year
election
measure
to
keep
me
and
other
voters
like
me,
more
engaged
and
informed
about
the
community
we
live
in.
We
have
this
opportunity
to
make
it
a
little
easier
for
bolder
residents
to
learn
about
and
vote
on,
local
politics.
AW
Hi
there
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
great,
my
name
is
rosie
vivian.
I
live
in
table
mesa
and
I
support
moving
city
council
election
to
even
years.
Voter
participation
is
a
passion
of
mine.
In
my
first
election,
when
I
was
18
years
old,
I
registered
and
voted
against
ronald
reagan.
I
was
passionate
and
informed
about
voting
and
even
chose
to
vote
differently
than
my
parents
did
and
believe
me.
I
felt
like
my
vote
mattered.
AW
I
hope
people
will
reflect
on
their
first
time
voting
and
how
it
shaped
them
fast
forward
to
the
2016
election,
and
I
spent
a
lot
of
time,
volunteering
at
voter
registration
events
and
became
an
election
judge
in
boulder
county
in
2018
and
in
the
primary
this
year.
My
interest
in
voter
participation
has
also
led
me
to
run
this
year
as
pcp
and
precinct
855
table
mesa.
These
experiences
over
my
lifetime
have
led
me
to
believe
that
every
vote
matters
every
voice
should
be
heard.
AW
I'm
flabbergasted
that
I
have
to
say
this
in
light
of
recent
propaganda
floating
around,
but
lest
we
forget
and
for
those
community
members
that
could
not
be
here
tonight.
A
vote
is
a
vote.
One
person's
vote
is
as
valuable
as
another
person's
vote.
A
renter's
vote
is
equal
to
a
homeowner's
vote.
A
vote
from
someone
who
moved
here
yesterday
is
equal
to
a
vote
from
someone
born
here.
A
young
person's
vote
is
equal
to
a
senior
citizen's
vote.
AW
AW
AX
So
can
you
hear
me
yes
great,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
ordinance
8540
on
the
new
mayoral
election?
I
would
like
to
ask
about
the
thinking
behind
not
allowing
someone
to
be
a
candidate
for
both
mayor
and
council
simultaneously.
AX
AX
Democracy
is
better
when
voters
have
more
candidates
and
a
better
voting
method.
So
we
don't
end
up
splitting
the
vote.
Boulder
will
have
a
better
voting
method,
instant
runoff
ranked
voting,
but
we
may
not
have
more
candidates
because
we
will
prohibit
people
from
running
for
both
offices
simultaneously
boulder
would
be
going
backwards
up
to
now,
people
have
been
able
to
run
for
council
and
then
immediately
upon
winning
run
for
mayor.
AX
AX
I
also
have
a
second
point:
I'd
like
to
make
I'm
fine
with
continuing
council
members
running
for
mayor
winning
and
the
city
suddenly
electing,
in
addition
to
the
regular
four
council
members,
a
fifth
council
candidate
to
fill
the
new
mayor's
unexpired
two
years
left
on
their
council
term.
What
I'm
not
so
excited
about
is
that
we'd
elect
five
council
members,
but
voters
would
only
get
to
weigh
in
on
their
ballot
by
marking.
AX
Four
last
night
I
sent
an
email
to
council
members,
benjamin
and
spear
detailing
three
better
alternatives,
so
I
hope
you'll
consider
those
as
you
adopt
ordnance
85-40,
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
council
member
friend
for
bringing
up
the
issue
on
what
to
do.
If
nobody
runs
for
mayor
thanks
thanks.
AY
I
say
this
as
a
precinct
leader
since
2009
and
I
care
very
very
deeply
about
voter
turnout
every
year,
even
in
odd,
I
deliver
voter
guides
to
every
door
of
a
registered
democrat,
independent
and
unaffiliated.
No
there's
not
a
party
represented
there,
but
I
just
I
have
gotten
it
done
with
volunteers
and
without
in
some
years
it
was
completely
up
to
me
to
make
these
deliveries
and
to
get
these
calls
out.
I've
also
worked
on
municipal
ballot
measures
and
council
campaigns
in
colorado.
AY
Every
voter
has
a
ballot
mailed
to
their
door
every
year.
Voting
here
is
truly
a
right
that
can
be
easily
exercised
and
as
someone
who
feels
very
competitive
about
my
voter
turnout
numbers
every
year,
I
strive
for
high
turnout
every
year.
The
answer
is
not
to
move
council
elections
to
even
years
the
effectiveness
of
odd
year
council
elections
that
we
have
had
in
place
for
so
long
and
like
so
many
other
municipalities
is
going
to
be
hard
to
replace
here's.
Why
no
major
political
parties
are
involved
to
muddy
the
waters.
AY
My
own
party
included,
because
boulder
is
one
of
the
few
cities
who
has
put
in
place
campaign
finance
reform
city
council
candidates
have
to
stand
on
an
unprecedented,
even
field
in
odd
years.
The
second
you
move
those
elections
to
an
even
year.
It
becomes
just
another
down
ballot
race
with
lots
of
dollars
spent
and
the
equality
disappears.
AY
In
an
odd
year.
We
have
forums,
interviews,
journalists
to
hold
our
council
candidates
afford
accountable.
I
love
that
if
I'm
given
a
choice
between
working
on
a
council
campaign
or
a
senate
campaign
or
a
presidential
campaign
or
watching
a
debate
for
senator
president,
what
am
I
going
to
do?
You
know
we
can
have
10
to
20
candidates
run
for
council
and
that's
super
cool.
Will
voters
take
the
time
to
hear
from
each
of
them
in
an
even
year?
Thank
you.
Let's
be
more
thoughtful
about
this.
AZ
Thank
you
good
evening,
council.
I
wanted
to
speak
this
evening
about
elections
and
even
years
ordinance
85-46.
AZ
I'm
opposed
to
changing
boulder's
tradition
of
odd-year
city
council
elections,
a
system
that
continues
to
be
used
by
the
vast
majority
of
cities
nationwide
and
throughout
colorado,
moving
local
elections
to
even
years
when
local
issues
and
candidates
can
be
radical,
relegated
to
a
distant
third
place
behind
state
and
national
races
risks
local
issues
getting
lost
in
the
shuffle
the
advantages
of
local
elections
in
odd
years.
When
there's
no
competition
for
the
community's
political
discussion,
media
focus
campaign.
Volunteers
means
we
can
have
more
in-depth
community
conversations
on
local
issues
and
more
informed
local
decisions.
AZ
I'm
also
opposed
to
reducing
the
terms
of
the
council,
members
elected
in
2023
and
2025
to
three
years,
a
heavy-handed
approach
that
is
unfair
to
candidates
in
our
next
two
local
elections.
When
something
isn't
broken,
there's
no
need
to
fix
it.
Relegating
local
issues
and
candidates
to
the
end
of
a
long
ballot
is
not
going
to
increase
voter
participation
if
anything
more
people
may
neglect
local
elections
because
of
ballot
fatigue.
AZ
AZ
B
Emily
we
have
christian
kerr
max
hollingsworth
and
I
understand
juan
marcano
is
not
present.
So
we'll
move
to
chris
nicholson.
BA
Great
thanks,
I
am
also
speaking
about
the
item
of
moving
voting
to
even
years
as
opposed
to
odd
to
me,
it
seems
an
odd
choice,
as
the
issues
that
we
face
locally
really
often
have
very
little
overlap
with
national
issues.
National
issues
take
up
a
lot
of
oxygen
and
are
often
very
heated
and
partisan.
BA
Local
issues
are
often
more
nuanced
granular
and
really
deserve
their
own
time
and
space
within
voters
minds.
The
whole
idea
of
voter
suppression
or
racism
behind
voting
in
eve
or
odd
years
really
rings
false
to
me,
because
everybody
has
ballots
mailed
to
them
every
year.
So
the
voting
the
voting
is
there
it's
accessible.
It's
available
to
all.
What
this
issue
really
comes
down
to
for
me
is
giving
every
issue
and
vote
it's
due
consideration.
BA
BB
All
right,
all
right,
can
you
hear
me
this
time?
Yes,
we
can.
Oh
great,
that's
great.
Okay,
hi!
My
name
is
max
hollinsworth.
I
live
in
boulder
and
I
support
moving
to
even-year
city
elections.
The
first
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
this
is
really
exciting.
For
me
and
for
all
democrats,
we
live
in
a
country
where,
every
day
republicans
are
trying
to
make
it
harder
to
vote,
but
here
in
boulder
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
just
the
opposite.
BB
We're
joined
in
a
long
list
of
cities
like
pasadena
college
station,
ann
arbor,
and
when
people
voted
on
it
there,
it
always
won
by
a
lot
turns
out.
This
is
a
really
popular
idea,
so
I'm
excited
that
in
a
time
when
republicans
are
doing
away
with
things
that
are
supported
by
an
overwhelming
majority
like
access
to
abortion.
Like
ease
of
voting,
we
get
a
chance
to
show
that
democracy
still
works
here
in
boulder
and
that
popular
ideas
can
prevail
all
right.
BB
I
did
get
off
the
boat
door
knocking
and
on
campus
events
and
here's
what
I
saw
lots
of
young
people
in
their
20s
and
30s.
Both
students
and
non-students
didn't
have
up-to-date
home
addresses.
Why?
Because,
from
year
to
year,
we
change
neighborhoods
leases,
end
jobs
change,
we
have
different
roommates,
it's
just
a
reality
for
some,
you
know.
Look
I
love
mail-in
ballots.
BB
B
Next
chris
nicholson,
sean
rupp
and
chelsea
castellano.
BC
I
want
to
read
you
something
that
I
came
across
a
couple
days
ago
quote.
While
I
don't
recommend-
including
this
in
your
talking
points,
the
fact
is,
while
even
numbered
election
years
will
pull
in
thousands
more
voters.
Many
such
voters
don't
pay
attention
to
local
issues
because
they're
short-term
residents,
whether
it's
beneficial
for
such
voters,
to
decide
long-term
issues
and
tax
increases
that
long-term
residents
will
have
to
live
with
for
decades
is
an
open
question.
BC
We
know
from
voter
turnout
data
that
even
numbered
election
years
see
an
80
percent
increase
in
student
voters
in
some
precincts,
so
we'll
have
a
decidedly
more
pro-cu
electorate
in
human
years
with
major
implications
for
current
issues
with
cu.
Remember
less
than
a
thousand
votes
typically
determine
the
winners
in
city
council
races.
BC
BC
AM
Z
I
remember
voting
in
that
local
election
that
year,
but
I'll
be
honest,
I
don't
think
I
really
knew
much
about
the
candidates
or
about
the
issues.
Z
It
would
have
the
effect
of
engaging
more
people
on
local
politics
and
increasing
awareness
of
local
issues
if
you're
a
candidate
for
city
council-
and
you
truly
believe
that
your
ideas
are
beneficial
for
the
city
and
all
of
its
residents,
then
you
should
love
the
idea
of
more
people
voting
you
get
to
engage
more
voters
and
advocate
for
your
ideas.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
convince
voters
that
your
ideas
will
make
our
community
stronger.
That
seems
like
a
huge
win
to
me.
Z
BD
Hello,
my
name
is
chelsea
castellano
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
both
thank
and
support
the
council
majority
that
will
vote
to
protect
and
strengthen
our
democracy
as
one
of
the
most
highly
educated
communities
in
the
country.
Our
first
inclination,
when
trying
to
understand
an
issue,
is
to
look
at
the
research,
and
the
research
here
could
not
be
more
clear
off
your
elections.
Cause
low
voter
turnout
and
shifting
the
timing
of
elections
to
align
with
state
and
federal
elections
is
the
singular
most
effective
election
reform
that
can
significantly
increase
participation
in
our
democracy.
BD
Sultan
hajnal,
a
respected
scholar
on
u.s
politics
and
policy,
has
stated
that
quote.
Every
published
study
on
election
timing
and
voter
turnout
shows
that
combining
local
elections
with
state
and
federal
elections
is
the
single
most
important
change
that
local
governments
can
undertake
to
increase
turnout.
Most
studies
show
that
turnout
doubles
compared
to
off-cycle
elections
and
quote
other
cities
and
states
have
listened
and
learned
ann
arbor,
pasadena
college
station
texas
are
among
the
many
cities
that
have
recently
passed
moving
their
elections
to
even
years.
BD
These
measures
have
passed
with
up
to
83
support
these
measures
win
because
they
are
popular.
These
measures
win
because
expanding
access
to
voting
has
always
been,
and
will
always
be
the
right
thing
to
do,
equipped
with
all
the
knowledge
that
this
change
will
make
our
democracy
stronger.
It
is
now
both
our
responsibility
and
opportunity
to
take
what
we
know
and
act.
This
fall
boulder
has
the
chance
to
be
a
leader,
a
beacon
of
light
in
what
has
been
a
dark
and
disturbing
chapter
for
democracy
across
our
nation.
BD
BE
We
all
like
to
say
how
long
we
have
lived
in
in
boulder
when
we
come
to
these
things.
So
for
the
record,
I've
been
here
for
47
years,
but
I
don't
think
those
47
years
mean
that
my
vote
has
more
value
or
more
legitimacy
and
I
don't
think
that
it
guarantees
that
I'm
a
more
thoughtful
or
more
high
quality
voter,
and
so
I
want
us
to
put
that
aside
for
a
minute.
BE
BE
BE
It
will
get
more
newer
residents,
younger
people,
people
with
less
resources
to
vote,
and
it
will
cause
us
to
change
what
we
work
on,
what
policies
we
advance
and
how
we
work
on
those
policies
and
that
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
good
thing.
So
I
encourage
you
to
vote
yes
for
this
change
and
let's
get
more
people
voting
and
let's
get
more
people
who
haven't
been
voting
to
engage
in
our
city.
Politics
thanks
a
lot.
BF
Good
evening,
everyone
thanks
for
this
opportunity
to
speak.
My
name
is
laura
tyler,
and
for
many
years
I
served
as
co-director
of
south
boulder
creek
action
group.
It
was
a
year
ago
right
now
that
I
felt
the
weight
of
the
world
was
on
my
shoulders,
because
I
was
organizing
testimony
for
your
annexation
hearing.
BF
I
just
my
heart
is
so
filled
with
gratitude
and
relief
that
you
supported
annexation
as
a
council,
and
I
want
to
extend
my
thanks
to
so
many
of
you
who
spoke
tonight
just
so
many
people
in
this
community
involved
in
moving
this
project
across
the
finish
line
and
then
city
staff
as
well.
It
was
just
an
enormous
enormous
effort,
and
the
reason
why
I'm
here
tonight
is
to
let
you
know
that
I
oppose
the
current
cu
south
referendum
and
the
reason
why
I
oppose
it.
BF
BF
B
Thank
you
laura,
and
we
have
confirmed
that
all
of
the
missing
speakers
from
before
are
still
missing,
so
that
will
bring
our
public
hearing
to
a
close.
So
do
we
have
any
responses
or
questions
as
a
follow-up
from
the
from
the
testimony
we've
heard
tonight,
matt.
K
Thanks
aaron,
so
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
for
staff
to
help
sort
of
clarify.
I
heard
a
few
misconceptions
about
things
and
and
since
we're
in
sort
of
in
the
process
of
trying
to
pass
some
things
and
voter
education
is
really
important.
So
so
one
of
them
I've
heard
from
a
from
a
few
folks-
and
we
got
some
emails
quite
recently
about
it-
is-
is
regards
to
ordinance
85.
I
think
it's
85
46
with
regards
to
even
your
elections,
just
to
be
clear.
Maybe
this
is
for
teresa
and
kathy.
K
Are
we
extending
anybody's
terms
with
this
new
ordinance
that
we're
looking
to
perhaps
pass
on
on
second
reading
tonight?.
K
Okay-
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
the
other
one
has
to
do
with
regards
to
you-
know
our
the
individual
that
we
get
our
election
advice
from,
I
presume
they
maybe
met
our
county
clerk
and,
if
I
recall
from
when
she
was
visiting
with
us,
helping
us
navigate
this
question,
I
think
she
did
she
had
didn't.
She
have
a
preference
that
the
solution
we
end
on
she
would
prefer
is
if
we
kept
the
mayoral
rank
choice.
K
Voting
election
in
2023
as
it's
currently
written
into
the
curtin
ordinance,
is
that
correct.
L
I
I
really
hesitate
to
speak
for
somebody
else
or
put
words
in
their
mouth.
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
her
mouth.
I
believe
that
that
was
her
preference,
so
that
boulder
would
have
the
that
boulder
county
would
have
the
opportunity
to
have
the
experience
and
help
form
the
stuff
that's
happening
at
the
state
level
because
of
last
year's
bill.
K
I
I
I'm
not
sure
where
that
sort
of
came
from,
but
I
thought
that
was
with
regards
to
whether
we
had
moved
around
the
ranked
choice
voting
part
and
really
it's
the
ranked
choice.
Voting
that
carries
a
large
expense
in
our
upcoming
elections.
Not
necessarily
anything
to
do
with
even
year
is.
Is
that
a
fair
characterization
of
where
the
expenses
really
reside
in
any
of
our
changes?.
N
K
B
Thanks
and
thanks
folks,
for
reserving
your
comments
here
to
the
end,
that
was
my
mayoral
intervention
to
do
that,
just
to
only
ask
questions
during
the
testimony
would
say
comments
or
responses
for
the
end.
I
appreciate
you
working
with
me
on
that
we
got
nicole,
rachel,
junie
and
lauren.
F
Thank
you.
Thanks
to
everybody
who
spoke
up
in
public
comment
too,
just
a
couple
of
questions
around
the
climate
tax.
I
think
one
of
the
commenters
mentioned
that
it
was
sort
of
an
arbitrary
amount
that
we
were
putting
in
place
for
the
climate
tax.
My
understanding
is
that
this
was
actually
quite
a
thoughtful
and
lengthy
process
on
staffspark
to
get
to
that
amount,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
could
clarify
that
for
us
just
basically
to
the
amount
that
we're
going
to
be
raising
and
and
spending.
O
O
So
I
think,
as
we
outlined
in
our
packet,
we've
been
collecting
just
shy
of
four
million
dollars
a
year
from
our
our
two
previous
taxes,
and
we
thought
very
clearly
about
what
would
be
a
reasonable
increase
in
that,
as
well
as
how
we
could
manage
the
impacts
from
an
equity
perspective
on
those
who
would
experience
an
increase
in
tax
and
so
we'd
originally
recommended
a
one
million
dollar
increase
through
our
response
to
surveys,
as
well
as
further
discussion,
we
further
recommended
to
go
to
the
6.5
million
dollar
level
to
really
advance
our
wildfire
mitigation
and
resiliency
work,
and
so
I
think
we
were
very
thoughtful
about
that.
O
I
do
know-
and
I
think
I
heard
very
clearly
from
our
community
member
mr
cullen-
you
know
we're
in
a
climate
emergency
and
there's
often
a
desire
to
to
spend
as
much
as
we
can
to
advance
our
work.
This
is
really
why
we
recommended
the
inclusion
of
bonding
capacity
within
the
ballot
measure,
so
we
can
advance
funding
against
future
year
taxes
to
really
accelerate
that
work.
So
that
was
the
thought
process
behind
our
our
recommended
strategy
of
the
6.5
million
dollar
level.
F
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
just
one
other
question.
While
we
have
you
carolyn,
this
is
around
the
measurements
and
sort
of
outcomes
that
some
folks
were
referring
to,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
whether
any
of
the
money
that
will
be
generated
by
the
climate
tax
would
allow
us
to
do
more
of
that
kind
of
reporting
on
how
we're
progressing
and
how
we're
doing.
O
Yes,
definitely,
and
I
I
always
appreciate
this
classroom's
emphasis
and
challenge
to
us
to
to
really
make
sure
we're
measuring
progress
and-
and
definitely
I
all
of
our
work
is
going
to
be
aligned
with
two
objectives.
That's
either
mitigating
our
carbon
emissions,
where
we
very
clearly
track
that
through
annual
reporting,
we
do
look
at
our
various
programs
and
what
they're
contributing
as
well
as
enhancing
our
community
resilience
and
so
really
focusing
on
that
and
will
be
very
transparent
in
those
those
numbers
and
and
we'll
definitely
be
measuring.
F
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
then
sorry,
folks,
just
one
more
question.
I
think
this
one's
for
kathy.
This
is
in
relation
to
some
of
the
questions
about
the
mayoral
cleanup.
Can
you
just
clarify
why
why
we
have
this
kind
of
clarification
in
place
that
folks
can't
run
for
two
seats?
At
the
same
time,.
L
Sure
I
can
try
and
it's
not
a
matter
of
you
know
whether
we
can
or
can't
draft
to
make
changes,
because
we
can,
but
I
think
the
important
part
is
to
keep
the
purposes
of
what
both
the
matching
funds
and
the
campaign
finance
limitations
were
for
and
the
you
have
the
question
of
matching
funds.
If
people
are
running
for
two
different
offices,
do
they
get
double
the
potential
matching
funds,
then
you've
got
all
the
campaign.
Finance
restrictions
like
a
candidate
has
a
maximum
of
100
contributions
that
they
can
accept
from
various
individuals.
L
If
they're
running
for
two
offices,
do
you
split
that?
Do
you
double
it?
Do
you
split
it
50
50,
75
25?
How
do
you
do
that?
And
and
how
do
you
make
it?
So
it's
not
an
opportunity
for
somebody
to
take
two
bites
at
the
apple
in
their
campaigning
when
we
are
trying
to
limit
the
cost
of
campaigns
by
doing
matching
funds
and
having
contribution
limits
for
candidate
committees.
L
There's
also
the
thing
of
that
with
campaign
disclosures,
the
committees
are
supposed
to
be
completely
separate,
but
a
person
can't
split
himself
or
herself
from
the
one
running
from
there
for
the
one
running
from
council.
So
that's
my
initial
list.
F
All
right,
thank
you
and
just
one
question:
I'm
in
the
discussions
that
I
know
the
committee
talked
about
this
a
lot
when
you
mentioned
two
bites
of
the
apple,
I
mean
what
I
sort
of
envisioned
right
as
if,
when,
whenever
you're
running
you're,
getting
your
name
out
there
a
lot
right
now,
as
we
heard
some
folks
say
tonight,
sometimes
you're
just
voting
by
name
recognition.
So,
presumably,
if
you
were
going
new
campaigns
at
the
same
time,
that
could
potentially
give
you
an
advantage
in
one
or
the
other
as
well.
L
We
didn't
talk
about
that
directly,
I'm
talking
about
the
part
that
would
be
for
the
city
and
thinking
of
the
two
bytes
of
the
apple.
I
mean,
I
think,
you're
raising
a
very
legitimate
point
on
the
side
of
the
candidates
from
the
city's
perspective,
we're
looking
at.
How
do
we
figure
out?
What's
a
hundred
dollar
limit?
Is
it
per
candidate
position?
Is
it
per
person?
Is
it
whatever
and
then
the
communications
and
then
the
matching
funds?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much.
B
Thanks
rachel
jimmy
lauren,
then
I'll
call
myself.
J
Okay,
a
couple
questions
number
one:
eric
budd
testified
about
some
statistics
around
moving
to
even
your
elections
and
that
the
statistics
really
only
held
true
if
the
elections
occurred
in
november,
at
the
same
time
as
federal
and
state
versus.
If
you
had
like
a
may
election,
as
I
understand
it,
those
statistics
don't
add
up.
J
So
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
increase
voter
turnout,
so
we're
not
looking
to
create
an
even
year
election
at
a
special
election
in
the
spring,
because
that
doesn't
really
arrive
at
the
same
end
point
so
do
we
have
that
covered?
Is
there
a
change
that
we
can
make?
I
understand
that
we
can't
change
language.
J
That
would
somehow
mean
that
we
would
be
advocating
in
the
language
that
we
use,
but
is
there
language
that
needs
to
be
added,
or
is
his
concern
already
addressed
in
the
language
that
would
ensure
that
what
we're
doing
is
having
an
even
year
election
at
the
time
that
voter
turnout
is
expected
to
be
higher
for
the
other
reasons,
which
is
state
and
federal
elections,
even
if
we
can't
use
those
words.
L
And
yes,
it
is
covered
and
I
just
grabbed
the
wrong
one.
No,
it
didn't
yes
here.
It
is
that
in
ordinance
8546
the
amendment
to
section
22,
that's
on
page
24
of
your
packet,
it
says
we're
moving
the
the
regular
municipal
election
from
no
the
first
or
tuesday
in
november,
when
there's
state
ballot
issues
to
the
tuesday.
L
In
I'm
sorry,
we
are
changing
it
from
the
tuesday
in
november
that
there
are
state
ballot
issues
and
odd
years
to
the
tuesday
in
november,
where
there
are
state
elections
and
even
years.
So
it's
got
the
november
in
there
and
it's
got
that
you
know
one's
not
on
the
first
tuesday
of
the
month
and
the
other
one
on
the
first
tuesday
following
a
monday
on
a
month,
they
are
the
same
tuesday
as
the
state
elections.
Okay,.
J
Thank
you
second
question.
There
was
an
early
speaker
who
talked
about
some
assumptions
made
at
sea
south.
I
don't
know
if
joe
teducci
might
be
on
the
call
that
nuri
is
giving
me
a
look
like
maybe
not.
Okay,.
J
Anyone
else
you
know
that
an
assertion
is
made
that
we're
proceeding
under
the
assumption
that
we
can
only
work
with
cu
to
get
flood
mitigation
done.
J
And
then,
if
you
know
there,
there
would
be
a
different
way
that
we
would
not
have
to
disrupt
wetlands,
and
I
just
wanted
someone
to
maybe
speak
to
the
fact
that
most
of
the
wetlands
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
are
the
ones
where
the
actual
flood
walls
going
that'll
be
the
city
using
that
land
not
not
see
you
developing
that
land,
but
I
hope
that
somebody
could
could
clarify
whether
that
is
an
accurate
assumption.
J
I
I
think
it
what
the
speaker
talked
about
was
was
not
accurate
and
so
just
wondering
if,
if
that
could
could
be
directed-
and
then
also
is,
is
it
true
that,
where
c
is
developing
is
primarily
in
a
mined
out
former
gravel
pit
and
any
wetlands
which
are,
I
think,
quite
minimal?
There
would
have
to
be
mitigated
and
restored
with
new
wetlands
elsewhere
on
the
property.
H
J
And
then
I
think,
back
to
kathy
haddock,
just
there
were
a
couple
questions
up
front
that
I
had
asked
like
that
health
and
safety
language
did.
We
pin
down
whether
that's
required
to
be
in
there
or
can
we
change
that.
L
It's
not
required
it's
not
one
of
the
things
that's
required
to
be
in
an
ordinance
in
the
charter.
There
are
legal
cases
when
it's
required
when
you're
adopting
laws,
so
you
will
continue
to
see
it,
but
we
teresa-
and
I
talked
well
virtually
talk
during
the
meeting
and
we
can
substitute
it
for
something
like
this
ordinance
is
adopted
to
place
this
measure
on
the
ballot,
as
required
by
article
5,
section
1
of
the
colorado
constitution
and
article
4
of
the
city
charter.
J
That
sounds
good
to
me
as
long
as
there's
no
legal
risk
to
doing
so.
Yeah,
I
don't
think
there's
any
legal
risk
to
do
it.
Okay,
great
and
then
any
returns
about
that.
You
know.
If
no
one
runs
for
mayor,
do
we
need
to
make
any
changes
for
that
situation
to
ensure.
L
You
know
boulder's
charter
doesn't
address
if
there's
no
one
to
run
for
mayor
or,
if
they're,
not
enough
candidates
to
run
for
the
empty
council
seats
and
it's
a
situation.
That's
never
happened.
There
are
provisions
in
state
law
because
it
happened
in
the
small
towns
I
used
to
represent
all
the
time.
So
if
you
want
us
to
go
to,
we
can
draft
another
ballot
measure
for
you.
That
would
deal
with
that.
If
you
want
to,
I
wouldn't
suggest
amending
one
of
these
because
it's
I
imagine,
adding
a
new
section.
J
L
While
rachel's
asking
questions,
can
I
follow
up
on
one
other
one?
She
had
yes,
that
we
also
addressed
that
you
asked
about
the
indentured
servitude
language,
which
I
had
taken
out
of
one
paragraph
and
then
added
in
here.
E
Thank
you
aaron.
I
just
had
a
one
question.
I
think
you
answered
it
earlier,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
you're
saying
that
for
the
even
though
we're
going
to
even
ear
the
campaign,
finance
laws
remain
the
same.
They
remain
as
is.
Is
that
correct.
D
Thank
you.
I
had
a
question
that
celeste
landry
brought
up.
Regarding
you
know.
If
a
council
member
was
elected
to
mayor,
we
had
talked
about
that.
D
Then
from
the
council
candidates
we
would
elect
five
instead
of
four
candidates,
but
I
thought
she
brought
up
a
great
point
of,
but
people
are
only
voting
for
candidates,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
had
looked
at
any
examples
of
where
that
happens
in
other
cities
or
if
you
guys
had
discussed
that
at
all.
L
I
agree
that
it's
a
legitimate
concern,
I'm
at
least
so
far.
I
think
it's
one
without
a
potentially
good
solution
that
if
we
don't
have
this
language
in
the
charter-
and
this
is
not
language
we
are
adding.
This
is
language
that
the
voters
approved
it
when
they
made
the
direct
election
of
mayor
in
2020
believe
we're
just
moving
it
to
a
different
place.
Maybe
we're
not
even
doing
that.
So
just
so,
you
know
that
part
and
the
the
boulder
charter
requires
vacancies
to
be
filled
by
election.
L
So
if
we
don't
do
it
this
way,
the
alternative
is
to
have
to
call
another
election
and
and
have
a
special
election
or
wait
until
the
following
november
to
to
fill
the
vacancy
that's
created.
I
guess
you
could
say
that.
K
Do
you
mind
lauren,
okay,
so
the
the
motive
behind
not
allowing
some
or
why
we
put
in
the
ballot
language
not
to
have
someone
run
for
council
simultaneously
running
for
mayor
when
their
council
term
ends
at
that
same
election
cycle
was
to
give
the
greatest
deference
to
the
electorate
and
potential
candidates,
because,
if
someone's
hold,
if
someone
is
or
if
someone's
in
that
state,
you
don't
know
if
that
person's
running
for
re-election
it
like
right,
I
mean
they're,
not
they're
they're
running
as
an
incumbent
for
council
and
running
for
a
new
seat,
often
times
a
lot
of
decisions,
and
for
those
of
us
that
recently
ran
and
those
that
have
previously
sometimes
based
on
knowing
who
is
or
isn't
running
for
a
seat
changes
your
calculus
of
whether
you
choose
to
run
or
not,
and
so
by
holding
a
seat
sort
of
held
as
an
incumbent.
K
You
might
change
the
calculus
of
a
number
of
candidates
that
may
want
to
actually
throw
their
name
in
the
hat
because
they
feel
there's
maybe
a
better
shot.
If
that
seat
is
vacant
versus
being
held
by
an
incumbent
so
making
an
individual
choose
which
seat
they
are
actually
going
to
seek
and
choosing
one
provides
clarity
not
just
to
the
potential
candidates,
but
also
to
the
voters.
K
So
we
don't
run
into
an
issue
where
they're
maybe
voting
for
four,
but
then
a
fifth
slips
in
so
so
I
think,
there's
that
that's
sort
of
the
reason
why
we
did
that
was
to
sort
of
keep
it
clean
and
keep
it
in
in
a
most
transparent
manner,
for
both
voters
and
potential
candidates,
and
also
we
just
don't
want
to
make
elisha's
work
any
more
complex
or
hard
than
it
already
is,
and
trying
to
manage
that
that
potential
chaos.
K
So
that
was
just
sort
of
perspective
on
our
motives,
for
why
we
had
that
in
the
language
for
2020.
B
Okay,
great
thanks.
Okay,
I'd,
I
had
a
couple
questions.
One
is
I
wanted
to
come
check
in
on
the
question
of
the
number
of
signatures.
We've
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
before,
but
I
just
wanted
to
just
check
in
on
it
one
more
time,
so
our
current
requirement
for
the
number
of
signatures
you
to
like
get
get
an
initiative
on
the
ballot
and
recall
council
members
and
such
they're,
based
on
the
percent
of
votes
cast
in
a
previous
election
and
and
so
that
will
stay
true
correct,
like
that.
B
B
B
Right
thanks,
that's
what
I
meant
so
thanks
for
for
correcting,
so
it
would
in
2028.
It
would
be
based
on
the
2026
and
2025
elections
at
that
point.
Right,
yes,
got
it,
okay,
so
I
and
I'll.
So
I
will
well
we're
asking
questions
here,
but
thanks
for
answering
that
I'll
say
something
about
this
a
little
bit
later,
the
other
one.
B
So
we're
doing
a
couple
things
related
to
the
library
district
tonight,
which
is
not
fundamentally
putting
the
library
district
on
the
ballot,
because
that
was
being
done
by
petition,
but
some
kind
of
associated
measures
in
in
case
that
does
pass.
Can
I
ask:
do
we
have
anything
scheduled
right
now
for
talking
about
what
we
might
do
with
funds
that
that
would
be
available
at
the
library
district
is
successful.
H
Yes
and
I
apologize
as
I
was
typing
something
I
realized,
my
mic
was
open.
We
do.
I
think
that
we
are
thinking
of
that
and
working
to
schedule
that
with
fsc
soon,
I
believe
it
will
be.
We
haven't
scheduled
it
yet,
but
we
were
looking
at
late
september
october-ish
to
talk
about
that,
but
we
currently
need
to
figure
out
what
else
we
have
going
on
in
our
calendar.
H
Oh,
I
do
not
believe
we
have
gotten
that
far
we'll
see
what
the
financial
strategies
committee
says,
but
we
knew
that
odds
are.
We
would
probably
wait
until
after
november
to
see
that.
G
Yeah
you,
you
prompted
me
thanks
for
that
aaron,
you
probably
questioned
my
mind,
and
so
maybe
I'll
ask
maria.
If,
if
the
library
district
question
passes
at
the
county
level
in
november,
it
was
my
understanding
from
earlier
presentations
that
the
city
wouldn't
wouldn't
have
the
benefit
of
of
of
the
money
that
it
currently
spends
in
the
library
for
a
year
or
two.
I
think,
because
it
would
take
the
library
district
that
long
to
get
up
and
running
and
start
collecting
the
property
tax
we'd
have
to
kind
of
loan.
G
H
I
believe
that
was
kind
of
the
the
thought
as
we
were
moving
forward
there.
The
library
district
has
to
constitute
itself,
and
until
it
does,
we
would
be
in
that
position
of
supporting
the
library
district
as
that
moves
forward.
But
that's
where
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
those
conversations,
and
in
that
conversation
about
how
to
potentially
reallocate
the
money,
we
would
be
thinking
about
the
dates
in
which
that
would
happen.
G
Right
so
that
wouldn't
implicate,
for
example
the
2023
budget,
because
I
think,
presumably
we're
going
to
approve
the
23
budget
under
the
assumption
that
the
city
would
have
to
pay
for
the
library
expenses,
regardless
of
whether
the
ballot
measure
passes
or
not.
Is
that
for
2023
at
least?
Is
that
right.
H
That
is
correct.
It
would
not
impact
next
year's
budget
and
I
believe
it
really
wouldn't
come
into
play
for
the
next
to
the
following
year.
The
2024.
okay.
Q
B
B
Of
course,
we've
talked
about
all
these
ballot
measures
in
the
past,
so
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
have
a
long
argument
about
this
one
way
or
the
other
or
extol
the
virtues
or
negatives
of
all
of
them.
But
if
people
want
to
put
a
couple
of
comments
out
there,
maybe
even
a
motion-
you
know
let's
move
forward,
who
wants
to
start.
F
Nicole
I'll
start
so
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
to
mention
just
a
couple
of
things
about
the
different
measures
you
all
have
heard
me
speak
about
the
importance
of
social
infrastructure
before
so.
I'm
really
excited
to
move
forward
with
prioritizing
our
libraries.
F
I
think
they
can
sometimes
seem
fine
on
the
surface,
but
one
thing
I've
learned
getting
a
little
bit
deeper
into
it
is
that
we
really
need
a
lot
more
investment
in
our
libraries
than
the
city
has
been
able
to
give,
and
I'm
really
eager
to
see
us
set
our
libraries
free
from
city
budget
constraints.
I
know
it's
not
technically
our
ballot
measure,
but
I'm
still
excited
for
it.
F
I
just
want
to
commend
staff
for
doing
a
really
great
job
of
finding
the
balance
between
meeting
our
needs
and
making
sure
that
we
aren't
putting
an
excessive
burden
on
residents
energy
bills.
If
the
climate
tax
passes,
I
really
look
forward
to
our
work
to
find
more
equitable
ways
of
generating
revenue
for
climate
resilience
and
I'm
furthering
this
work,
and
I
also
am
really
looking
forward
to
having
measurements
of
progress
that
community
members
can
use
to
see
how
their
investments
are.
Helping
us
be
more
resilient.
F
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
the
cu
south
referendum
tonight,
given
I
work
at
the
university,
but
for
even
your
elections.
When
I
brought
this
up
at
the
retreat
as
a
work
plan
priority,
I
suspected
it
would
be
a
really
hard
issue
for
a
community
because
it
does
require
a
leap
of
faith
from
all
of
us.
Just
like
ranked
choice.
F
I
just
the
other,
the
other
thing
that
I'm
noticing
about
the
some
of
the
dialogue
that
I'm
seeing
around
even
your
elections
in
the
past
couple
of
months,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
harder
leap
of
faith
with
this
ballot
measure
and
it's
that
even
your
elections,
considering
it
is
really
requiring
us
to
act
on
our
stated
commitments
to
equity.
F
There
is
no
doubt
that
the
people
who
are
not
voting
in
off-cycle
elections
are
disproportionately
people
of
color,
renters
and
lower-income
residents.
Some
of
the
commenters
brought
up
that
they
didn't
feel
like.
It
was
racist
to
have
even
your
or
to
have
off-cycle
elections,
but
I
just
want
to
note
for
us:
we've
all
learned
this
in
our
racial
equity,
training,
racism
and
classism.
Don't
just
show
up
in
the
explicit
actions
that
we're
taking
to
uphold
our
privilege.
F
So
if
this
measure
passes,
I
hope
that
we'll
consider
increasing
the
amount
that
council
candidates
can
raise
and
that
the
city
will
match
so
candidates
can
do
more
voter
outreach,
but
anybody
all
of
us
who
run
council
campaigns
know
that
making
sure
candidates
can
reach
more
voters
in
an
even
year.
Election
is
a
much
easier
problem
to
solve
than
turning
out
17,
000,
more
voters
and
just
to
the
folks
who
are
concerned
about
not
having
enough
time
to
research
candidates.
F
I
know
that
those
of
us
who
are
political
insiders
are
very
used
to
having
time
to
watch
all
the
candidate
things
to
read
every
questionnaire,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
keep
in
mind
that
that
experience
is
not
necessarily
representative
of
how
most
of
our
candida
our
community
experiences
even
your
elections.
Even
in
odd
years.
A
lot
of
voters
don't
have
a
lot
of
extra
time
to
watch
all
of
these
things
and
go
to
all
these
events.
Many
of
them
are
filling
out
their
ballot.
F
Just
a
couple
days
before
the
election
calling
their
friends
talking
to
neighbors
doing
a
quick
google
search,
they
don't
follow
local
issues
as
deeply
as
some
of
us
do,
and
so
I
think,
for
a
majority
of
voters.
Their
experience
isn't
going
to
change,
but
one
thing
that
I
truly
hope,
as
we
head
into
election
season,
is
that
we
can
avoid
making
character
judgments
about
the
17
000
voters
who
are
not
typically
voting
in
off-cycle
elections.
F
They
aren't
more
or
less
uninformed
than
those
of
us
who
vote
in
odd
years,
their
parents,
their
hourly
workers,
their
retirees
and
renters
and
students
and
their
valued
members
of
our
community
who
deserve
a
voice
so
as
we're
moving
into
election
season.
I
really
hope
we'll
remember
that
in
a
democracy
when
it
comes
to
voting,
quantity
is
quality
and
we
can
just
make
sure
that
we
are
treating
all
voters
with
the
respect
they
deserve,
and
that
is
that
is
everything
that
I
wanted
to
say
in
response
to
the
comments.
F
So
thank
you
to
everybody
who
who
spoke
up
tonight,
really
appreciate
it,
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
voting
on
these
erin.
Can
I
make
a
motion
or
well?
Actually,
I
I
don't
want
to
make
the
motion,
because
I've
just
abstained
from
one
of
the
votes,
so
I
will
go
hold
off
on
doing
that.
B
That
might
be
best,
then:
okay,
thanks
nicole
rachel
and
then
juni
and
I'll
mark
and
I'll
call
him
myself.
J
J
So
it
might
be
helpful
in
advance
and
maybe
mayor
brackett
would
like
to
do
a
straw
poll
to
see
if
we
even
want
to
make
that
change
at
some
time.
I
didn't
mean
to
make
you
turn
your
camera
back
on,
but
if
that
happens,
if
somebody's
whoever's
gonna
make
the
motion,
I'm
happy
to
make
it
at
the
right
time
or
happy
not
to
if
somebody
could
put
the
language
up
on
the
screen.
That
might
be
helpful
to
get
us
through
it.
J
If
we're
making
some
changes
and
the
second
question,
I
have
I'm
supportive
of
putting
that,
I
guess
I'll
just
go
through
them,
one
at
a
time
on
85
34
and
see
south
annexation,
reluctantly
supportive
of
putting
that
on
the
ballot,
because
we
have
to
do
that
because
the
signatures
were
gathered.
Not
that
I
support
the
petition,
I'm
a
I'm
a
no
on
that.
But
yes,
I'm
putting
it
on
the
ballot,
I'm
very
supportive
of
us
putting
the
library
district
question
up
there
8539.
J
My
next
question
is
for
85.40
supportive
of
the
mayoral
cleanup
going
on
the
ballot,
but
I
am
still
worried
about
the
concern
that
lauren
brought
up,
which
is
what
happens
if
somebody
in
midway?
If
I
understand
the
issue
midway
through
a
term
so
has
two
years
left,
runs
for
mayor
and
wins.
So
we
have
an
extra
council
seat,
open
and
people.
We
don't
have
rank
choice
voting
yet
for
those
seats.
J
I
don't
know
if
we
ever
will,
but
we
don't
know,
wouldn't
we
want
in
that
scenario
as
kathy,
I
think
suggested
that
we
say
if
a
current
council
member's
running,
let's
vote
for
you,
know,
sort
of
an
incase
number
five
or
if
four
council
members
are
running
in
that
scenario,
let's
write
you
know,
let's
vote
is
that
no
only
one
could
win.
Let's
vote
for
one
extra
right.
Thank
you
that
the
math
was
slow.
J
I
am
sorry,
so
I
don't
know
if,
if
there's
interest
in
talking
through
that
anymore,
but
it
does
seem
like
we'd
rather
have
people
vote
on
a
fifth
than
not
and
then
I'm
very
supportive
of
putting
even
year
elections
on
the
ballot
one.
You
know
one
of
the
concerns
that
we're
hearing
over
and
over
tonight.
That's
85.
46
is
sort
of
the
notion
that
there
are
certain
voters
who
are
quality
and
others
who
are
not,
and-
and
I
find
that
frankly
offensive.
J
Every
every
vote
is
a
is
a
worthy
vote,
and
so
I
hope
that,
as
we
work
through
this
as
a
community,
we
can
shy
away
from
language
like
that.
You
know
it
was.
It
was
the
same
thing
like
during
the
the
movement
for
women's
suffrage
like
women.
Didn't
people
didn't
think
that
they
would
be
informed
voters
same
thing
with
literacy
tests
that
you
know
people
were
trying
to.
J
You
know
claim
that
that
black
voters
would
not
be
able
to
to
be
quality
voters,
so
we
we
really,
I
think,
need
to
get
really
far
away
from
implying
that
anyone's
vote
is
not
a
quality
vote.
We
are
all
quality,
voters
and
votes
and
and
not
trying
to
stifle
people's
first
amendment
rights.
Just
saying
that
that
that
hits
there's
just
poorly
and
then
on.
I
think
it's
8542
climate
tax,
I'm
excited
to
get
that
on
the
ballot
and
I
hope
that
the
community
supports
it.
Thanks.
B
Thanks
rachel
ginny
mark
matt,
then
I'll
go.
E
Thank
you
aaron.
I
support
putting
it
all
on
the
ballot
as
well
and
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
all
the
work,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
community
and
also
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
nicole
for
constantly
reminding
us
of
the
importance
of
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
forward
in
shedding
a
light.
Thank
you
so
much.
M
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
going
to
speak
in
opposition
to
ordinance
8546,
but
I
want
to
start
by
taking
an
extreme
issue
with
the
comments
of
one
of
my
colleagues
who
suggests
that
opposition
to
8546
is
in
some
way
racist.
That
suggestion
is
both
untrue
and
inappropriate.
This
is
a
policy
matter.
I
have
a
different
view
of
the
policy
and
it
is
not
based
on
racism,
and
the
reasons
I
oppose
it
is
that
this
measure,
which
I'm
obviously
going
to
vote
against,
represents
ad
hoc
governance
of
the
worst
kind.
M
There's
been
little
community
engagement,
we've
conducted
only
a
bare-bones
analysis
of
the
merits
of
taking
this
step
and
we've
ignored
the
value
of
the
current
election
system,
which
provides
for
a
deep
and
involved
conversation
between
those
running
for
council
and
those
who
would
elect
them.
With
respect
to
community
engagement,
we've
done
no
polling,
we've
done
no
mailings.
M
M
And
the
idea
that
the
pros
and
cons
of
this
proposal
is,
quite
frankly
laughable.
We
know
that
a
minuscule
number
of
cities
have
moved
in
this
direction,
apparently
the
largest
of
which
is
baltimore.
If
I
recall
correctly
so,
is
baltimore
now
the
load
star
that
we
follow
in
making
our
policy
decisions
and
how
many
thousands
of
cities
have
declined
to
take
this
step.
Do
we
even
know
that
answer?
M
This
referendum
is
being
put
on
the
ballot
by
the
council
majority,
not
because
it
is
fully
analyzed
and
vetted
the
proposal,
but
because
it
can,
this
is
the
opposite
of
careful
thoughtful
governance.
It
is
merely
an
exercise
of
power
and
nothing
more
than
that.
I
hope
that
the
voters
of
boulder
will
be
more
thoughtful.
Thank
you.
K
K
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
I
support
our
library
district.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
a
no-brainer
to
me.
It
is
just
fundamental
that
we
give
our
libraries
an
opportunity
to
thrive
and
we
get
them
out
of
the
the
table
scraps
of
our
budget
process.
So
so
I
think
the
the
libraries
deserve
that
opportunity
with
regards
to
8540.
K
I
support
that
one
going
forward,
and
I
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
I
you
know
as
kathy
said,
there's
no
great
solution
to
the
issue.
The
best
solution
is
actually
if
we
move
to
single
transferable
vote,
proportional
representation,
which
is
basically
an
rcv
for
council-
that
that's
how
we
solve
almost
all
those
issues,
along
with
some
of
the
great
solutions
that
come
with
the
mayor
election
that
we'll
be
doing
next
year.
K
So
if
we
want
to
leave
that
hanging,
then
maybe
we
go
through
rcv
for
all
of
council
and
we
just
make
sure
we
have
a
fully
equitable
election
system
across
the
board,
but
but
but
I'll
I'll
say
with
that
one.
With
regards
to
8546,
I
I
I
want
to
see
this
go
through.
Actually
I'll
just
skip
I'll,
come
back
to
that,
because
that'll
take
a
second
and
then
certainly
with
regards
to
85
42
and
the
occupation
tax.
This
is
just
good
for
us.
K
It's
good
for
the
environment,
it's
good
for
our
community
as
a
whole,
and
it
allows
us
to
plan
for
some
of
the
unforeseen
climate
impacts
that
we're
going
to
have
and
build
a
more
resilient
community
community.
So
these
are
just
win-win
options.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
starting
place
and
this
is
a
good
investment
for
our
community.
So
back
to
85
46.
You
know
this
is
not
a
question
of
mechanics.
K
This
is
a
very
simple
question
about
whether
you
feel
or
the
voters
feel,
or
we
on
council
feel
that
more
people
should
vote.
That's
really
all
it
is
the
mechanics
and
how
we
get
there.
The
path
is
irrelevant:
it's
the
destination
that
matters
the
destination
is.
K
Do
we
want
to
lift
up
the
voices
of
roughly
20
000
people
who,
by
the
way,
do
vote
in
our
municipal
elections,
because
we
trust
their
votes
on
things
like
the
muni
things
like
the
sugary
beverage
tax
things
like
armor,
our
choice,
we've
trusted
their
votes
for
years
and
even
years.
So
why
not
trust
them
to
make
the
same
decisions
with
regards
to
our
council?
And
so
I
think,
that's
a
fair
thing
for
us
to
do.
K
These
aren't
people
that
are
just
out
of
left
field,
don't
pay
attention
and
we're
trying
to
bring
them
in.
They
do
pay
attention
and
they
vote
in
extremely
consequential
issues
for
our
community,
and
so
I
think
it's
time
that
we
allow
them
the
same
right
with
regards
to
voting
for
council
and
eventually
for
mayor.
So
so
I
will
see
that
love
to
see
that
go
forward.
So
so
I'm
a
yes
all.
The
way
through.
K
One
thing
I
would
want
to
just
you
know:
toss
out
there
is
just,
and
maybe
there's
a
straw
poll
opportunity
for
aaron
is
is
a
language
question
and
modification.
I
know.
We've
talked
a
little
bit.
K
Some
of
us
have
with
teresa
and
kathy
on
this,
but
it
is
really
just
a
question
of
consistency,
since
we
do
define
in
article
3
section
22
of
the
charter
that
regular
municipal
elections
shall
be
held
on
the
same
tuesday
in
november
as
the
state
ballot
issue
elections,
we
already
define
it
with
regards
to
state
elections,
and
so
I'm
wondering
why
we
don't
have
similar
con
self-consistent
language
written
into
the
question
itself,
so
that
the
people
voting
on
this
without
question
understand
exactly
what
we're
asking
of
them,
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
election
at
the
same
time
as
the
state
election,
so
that
the
question
is
as
explicit
as
possible,
especially
given
we
define
it
as
such
in
our
charter,
and
so
it's
not
extemporaneous
or
or
pro
con
language,
because
our
charter
says
it
which
isn't
pro
con
by
definition.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there
as
something
that
that
I
would
love
us
to
perhaps
consider
and
maybe
there's
a
straw
poll
for
it
and
if
there's
pros
and
cons
happy
that,
but
but
I'd
love
to
just
see
if
that's
something
anyone
who's
willing
to
entertain.
Thank
you.
B
What's
that
so
I
got
myself
keyed
up
and
then
nicole,
if
you
don't
mind
I'll,
let
lauren
go
next
and
we'll
come
to
you
after
other
people
have
had
a
chance
to
speak
each
once
in
turn.
So
I'll
just
be.
I
won't
take
too
long
and
go
through
here
really
quick,
84,
30
85
34
about
the
two
south
annexation.
We're
required
to
do
it.
85
39,
on
the
library
district,
I'm
just
thrilled
that
the
petitioners
were
able
to
get
that
on
the
ballot.
B
I'm
looking
forward
to
supporting
that
and
getting
a
sustainable
source
of
funding
for
our
library.
It's
exciting
prospect,
85
40
is
this
is
really
charter
cleanup
stuff
and
I
think
just
makes
sense.
So
that's
great
85
46
is
our
even
year.
Elections
and
and
I'll
just
say
a
couple
of
words
here.
Just
we've
had
some
folks
calling
in
saying.
Well,
if
it's
not
broke,
you
know.
Why
are
we
trying
to
fix
it
and
I'll
just
say
that
this
is
an
attempt
to
make
our
local
elections
more
inclusive,
with
more
people
voting?
B
And
it's
really
it's
really
purely
and
simply
about
making
a
change
that
has
been
shown
in.
You
know
at
least
a
couple
three
dozen
other
cities
across
the
country
to
dramatically
increase
voting
numbers
in
local
elections,
and
you
know
I
thought
our
representative
judy
mobley
said
it
really
well
that
you
know
each
each
vote
matters
equally.
You
know
so
I
I
don't
feel
like
there's
one
vote
that
mattered
more
than
another
vote.
The
power
of
our
democracy
to
me
is
stronger
when
we
have
more
people
voting.
B
So
to
me,
that's
really
all
it
comes
down
to
it's
not
about
any
nefarious
motives
or
or
strategies,
or
what
have
you
it's
really
just
about
to
me.
More
people
voting
is
just
an
inherently
positive
thing,
so
I'll
just
leave
that
at
that
and
then
so,
and
also
just
you
know,
we're
we're
not
taking
any
unilateral
moves
here,
we're
putting
something
on
the
ballot
for
the
voters
to
consider
right.
So
this
is
not
a
change
that
we're
making
on
our
own.
B
It's
a
change
that
we're
asking
our
voters
to
consider,
and
I
generally
trust
our
voters.
I
think
they
they
show
very
good
instincts,
so
we'll
see
what
they
think
of
this
measure
and
then,
finally,
on
the
8542,
which
is
about
the
climate
action
plan
tax,
I
mean
we
know,
we
all
know
the
existential
crisis
that
climate
change
presents
to
us
right
now
in
the
recent
fires,
marshall
fire
and
such
made
that
incredibly
clear.
B
So
it's
this
is
a
really
good
move
to
provide
a
more
stable
funding
source
and
a
little
bit
of
a
higher
funding
source
to
make
progress
on
that
at
the
local
level,
and
then
just
also
call
out
that
it
does
include
1.5
million
dollars
for
wildfire
mitigation,
and
that's
the
kind
of
climate
resilience
move
that
we
need
to
be
making
and
it
will
work.
I
think,
really
well,
in
conjunction
with
this,
a
new
0.1
wildfire
mitigation
tax
that
the
county
is
putting
on
the
ballot
as
well.
B
So
hopefully
we
can
make
some
some
real
progress
on
on
that
and
keep
all
of
our
community
members
safe
with
that
measure,
and
I
will
leave
it
there.
Oh
no!
Actually,
I
did
want
to
mention
on
a
couple
other
things
on
leaving
your
elections.
One
was
just
about
you
know:
there's
been
some
concern
about
the
the
signature
thresholds
and
and
I'll
just
say
that
I
I
don't
know
how
we
would
accurately
change
the
signature
thresholds
now
to
kind
of
change
over
time,
as
potentially
higher
as
higher
voting
numbers
kicked
in
over
the
years.
B
So
I
I
think
that
that's
a
good
thing
if
this
passes
that
people
should
sharpen
their
pencils
and
come
up
with
a
proposed.
You
know
alteration
to
those
things
that
we
might
put
on
about
a
couple
years
or
something
like
that
to
keep
the
signature
numbers
scaled
to
to
get
roughly
similar
numbers
required
once
this
fully
phases
in.
So
I
think
we
can
come
back
to
that.
If
that
measure
is
successful
and
the
other
thing
is,
I
appreciate
people
raising
that
kind
of
concern
over
well.
B
If
the
mayor
gets
elected
from
council
and
and
then
they're,
we
take
the
fifth
vote
getter.
How
does
that
work
out?
Personally,
I
think
it's
fine.
You
know
people
would
have
only
voted
for
four
council
members,
but
anybody
who
didn't
pick
magically
the
top
four
vote.
Getters,
you
know
their
their
their
their
votes
would
still
roll
into
picking
the
fifth
person.
B
You
know,
I
I
think
it'll
it'll
work
out
fine.
I
don't
think
people
need
to
vote
cast
a
conditional
fifth
vote
in
case
there's.
There's
a
fifth
person
taken
on
put
onto
the
council.
Seeks
in
all
your
votes
will
kind
of
tally
up
to
ranked
people
in
their
order
and
then
per
matt's
point.
Ideally,
you
know
we
could
shift
to
a
different
form
of
voting
entirely.
It
would
resolve
all
these
issues
at
some
future
point,
but
I
think
until
we
get
there,
it'll
work
out.
B
Fine
that'd
be
my
my
bid
on
that
and
then
once
people
have
had
a
chance
to
speak
I'll.
Do
a
straw
poll
for
rachel's
proposed
language
change
on
the
cu,
south
annexation
measure
and
anything
else.
Anybody
wants
to
bring
up
thanks
for
bearing
with
me
we
got
lauren
and
then
bob
and-
and
I
think
everybody
will
spoken
if
I'm
not
missing
anybody
and
we'll
come
back.
D
Thanks
aaron,
so
for
85
34
like
many,
I
will
vote
yes,
because
it's
our
job
and
but
I
would
also
suppose
support
the
changes
that
rachel
brought
up
regarding
the
modification
to
the
language
for
85
39.
D
D
If
council
members
are
running
for
mayor,
it's
not
a
make
or
break
in
terms
of
my
support
on
that,
but
I'm
just
curious
if,
if
there's
a
reason
that
we
shouldn't
go
that
direction
85-42,
yes,
I
am
excited
to
see
the
climate
change
and
wildfire
mitigation
tax
on
the
ballot
and
85
46..
D
Yes,
I'm
excited
to
have
it
us
put
even
year
elections
on
the
ballot,
and
I
would
also
support
the
language
change
that
matt,
suggested
and
sort
of
rachel
brought
up
as
well
and
eric
about
having
the
language
match
our
charter
and
being
really
clear
that,
because
again,
I
don't
think
that
the
goal
right
is
to
have
elections
on
even
years.
The
really
the
nature
of
the
goal
is
to
align
with
state
and
federal
elections,
and
that
really
seems.
G
I
guess
we're
going
through
all
these
I'll
do
the
same
thing
I'll
follow
suit
with
my
colleagues
so
starting
in
the
top
80
85
30
for
the
cu
south
one
we
are
again
as
we've
discussed,
are
obligated
to
put
that
on
the
ballot.
I
do
support
rachel's
change
to
section
five,
and
I
hope
the
straw
poll
supports
that
as
well,
which
means
that
probably
goes
to
third
reading,
which
is
fine.
We've
got
time.
G
85
39
is
the
library
district.
This
is
not
the
library
district
question,
of
course
that's
put
on
by
the
county.
This
is
just
clean
up.
If
the
library
district,
I
don't
want
to
be
very
clear
to
listeners.
This
is
not
the
the
question
about
library
district.
This
is
the
question
of.
If
the
library
district,
which
is
accounting
measure
passes,
does
the
city
want
to
clean
up
then
what
things
we
would
have
to
clean
up,
for
example,
get
rid
of
the
library
commission.
G
So
obviously,
that
cleanup
is
important
and
necessary,
regardless
of
well
if
the
voters
on
the
county
measure
past
that,
so
that's
a
fine
one,
that's
just
administrative
8540
relating
to
coordination
with
the
mayoral
election.
I
think
that's
fine,
it's
clarification!
G
Matt
well
knows
this
was
what
it
was
supposed
to
say
back
in
2020,
so
we're
finally
getting
around
to
to
saying
what
what
I
think
matt's
team
had
wanted
it
to
say,
but
scrivener's
heir
excluded
that
two
years
ago,
so
we're
cleaning
that
up.
I
think
that
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
the
fact
that
I
think
that
kathy
had
a
proposed
change
in
that
language.
G
So
when
we
get
to
voting
and
amending
I'd
like
to
have
kathy
put
forward
her
change,
that
was
kind
of
the
indentured
servitude
language
that
I
think
she
wanted
to
get
cleaned
up
there,
85
46
I'll,
be
voting
against,
as
I've
said
before.
G
I
want
to
enunciate
my
reasons
here
for
that
I've
said
that
I've
said
my
reasons.
Many
many
times
I
thought
mark
did
a
good
job
of
of
enunciating
good
reasons,
and
I
support
what
he
said.
I
do
want,
however,
to
commend
my
council
colleagues,
the
majority
that
will
pass
85
46
for
making
a
change
in
the
transition
a
few
weeks
ago.
I
I
think
the
original
version
of
this
in
the
spring
had
some
transition
provisions
that
I
think
were
we're.
G
Gonna
make
people
very,
very
uncomfortable
things
like
extending
the
term
and
and
so
and
so
forth,
and
postponing
the
mayor
election.
So
I
really
want
to
commend
you
all
for
for
kind
of
listening
to
to
to
our
constituents
as
they
wrote
to
us
and
spoke
to
us
and
making
it
better,
I'm
still
going
to
vote
against
85
46,
but
I
think
what
you're
putting
forward
is
a
better
ballot
measure
than
what
was
originally
being
discussed
in
the
spring,
so
good
job,
particularly
to
rachel
for
for
bringing
that
change
forward
and
then
85
42.
G
I
agree
with
all
my
counsel,
colleagues.
This
is
an
important
thing
to
address,
not
only
climate
action
but
also
fire
mitigation.
The
original
version
of
this
had
the
tax
being
about
the
same.
This
is
kind
of
an
extension
of
two
taxes
and
combining
them
into
one
having
about
the
same
slightly
lower
for
residents
slightly
higher
for
for
businesses
and
then,
of
course,
we've
realized
that
we
need
to
do
some
more
work
on
wildfire
mitigation.
So
there
will
be
a
slight
tax
increase
here,
and
the
nice
thing
about
living
in
colorado
is
tax.
G
Increases
are
only
by
by
the
voters,
and
I
would
support
it
both
if
you
put
it
on
the
ballot,
but
also
I
will
personally
vote
in
favor
of
of
this
tax,
because
I
think
the
things
that
will
be
done
with
the
money
both
on
wildfire
and
climate
action
are
super
super
important,
so
I'll
be
voting
a
yes
on
on
four
of
the
five
and
voting
no
on
85
46.
For
reasons
previously
stated,
thanks.
B
Bob
okay,
I've
gone
through
everybody's
nicole.
You
want
to
put
in
something
additional.
F
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
kind
of
a
follow-up
to
my
previous
comments
into
some
comments
that
smothers
made.
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that,
when
we're
talking
about
issues
that
have
racial
disparities,
we
can
understand
that
we're
not
engaging
in
personal
attacks
by
calling
attention
to
those
racial
disparities.
F
F
None
of
us
here
supports
racism,
and
it's
a
fact
that
many
systems
in
our
country
were
set
up
to
make
sure
that
white
people
would
always
maintain
power
over
people
of
color
and
when
we
see
big
differences
in
anything
between
white
people
and
people
of
color,
whether
it's
incomes
or
homeownership,
or
voting
turnout.
That's
like
a
blinking
red
light,
calling
our
attention
to
the
fact
that
racism
is
likely
involved
in
creating
that
discrepancy.
F
So
we
don't
always
have
to
make
racial
equity
the
basis
of
our
decisions.
I
do,
but
I
don't
expect
that
others
will
look
too.
We
talked
last
month
about
how
we
can
and
we
should
disagree
on
issues
because
it's
healthy
and
it
makes
us
come
up
with
good
decisions
and
as
a
city
that
values
racial
equity,
we
also
have
to
be
able
to
talk
about
those
places
where
racial
disparities
exist,
and
I
hope
that
you
all
realize
that
when
I'm
talking
about
those
racial
disparities,
I'm
not
judging
any
of
our
characters.
F
I'm
just
trying
to
help
us
see
that
there's
a
potential
equity
problem
that
we
really
need
to
be
paying
attention
to.
So
I
hope
that
clarifies
my
intentions
a
little
bit.
I
really
do
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
all
of
you.
I
do
not
think
anybody
is
out
there
intentionally
trying
to
perpetuate
racism
in
our
community
or
anything
like
that.
F
I
really
just
think
it's
important
that
we're
able
to
have
these
conversations
and
point
out
these
places
where
disparities
exist,
so
that
we
can
further
our
racial
equity
goals
and
I'm
happy
to
talk
offline
with
anybody
who
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
or
anybody
who
is
just
feeling
a
little
bit
hurt
by
what
I
said
earlier.
Thank
you.
B
Q
Yes,
I'm
I'm
happy
to
mayor
so,
as
as
council
is
probably
aware,
there's
a
a
go
dark
period.
That's
triggered
once
once
we
take
the
vote
to
put
these
things
on
the
ballot
and
so
to
align
those
dates.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
things
that
need
to
happen
tonight.
I
think
anything
that
is
going
to
be
unchanged.
We
want
to
continue
to
a
future
meeting
anything
that
you
want
to
see
amended.
Q
It
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
have
clear
direction,
so
a
vote
to
amend
would
a
motion
and
vote
to
amend
would
be
really
helpful
so
that
we
can
bring
those
items
back
to
you
when
the
others
are
continued.
B
So
let
me
see
if
I
understand
what
you're
saying
is
that
you're
saying
that
we
need
to
do
final
adoption
of
all
of
the
ballot
measures
on
the
same
day,
so
that
we
have
a
the
same
go
dark
period
for
all
of
them,
and
and
in
order
to
do
that,
the
ones
that
are
getting
no
modifications.
We
should
continue,
because
otherwise
they
go
into
effect
immediately
right
now
and
the
ones
that
need
amending.
We
should
go
ahead
and
amend
on
second
reading
and
then
bring
them
back
for
a
third
reading.
B
Q
I'm
sorry
mayor
of
clarification,
I
I
don't
think
we
want
to
pass
them
as
amended.
I
think
we
just
want
to
know
what
those
amendments
are.
B
L
Yes,
I'm
not
the
expert
on
that,
but
I
think
you
all
you
all
are
saying
it
right,
and
you
know
what
we
often
do
for
ballot
measures
is
just
bring
them
for
by
emergency
at
the
last
meeting.
Anyhow,
just
because
we
run
into
this
and
we
run
into
you,
know
people
wanting
to
keep
perfecting
so
we
can
handle
it
any
way
you
want
to.
We
do
have
a
way
to
get
across
the
finish
line,
no
matter
how
easy
is
to
set
it
up
now.
L
B
Thanks
for
clarifying,
I
you
know
I
would
I
would
just
say
personally:
I
would
prefer
to
not
pass
things
on
emergency
if
we
don't
need
to
sometimes
have
feel
differently
to
community
members,
when
you
pass
things
on
emergency,
if
it's
something
they
don't
agree
with,
so
I
might.
I
would
hope
that
we
could
do
it
in
such
a
way
that
we
that
we
don't
have
to
do.
That
would
be
my
opinion.
I
think
we
have
time
junior
and
bob.
E
I
just
have
a
question
or
comment
again:
I'm
still
worried
about
community
and
how
they're
gonna
perceive
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
making
tonight,
and
I
think
I
heard
earlier
from
kathy
that
the
current
language
in
the
cu
south
referendum
matches
the
language
in
our
charter,
so
the
changes
that
we
will
be
making
today
will
they
be
in
line.
So
that's
something
that
I'm
concerned
with,
because
we
can
make
changes.
But
if
it's
not
something
that
is
supported
by
the
charter,
then
what
are
we
doing
here
tonight
as
well?.
L
Right
and
I'm
sorry
if
I
was
confusing,
because
I
think
maybe
two
concepts
were
mixed
up
in
there-
the
change
that
we're
talking
about
making
in
the
ordinance
about
the
cu
ballot
language
is
just
to
the
reasons
why
council
is
putting
this
on
the
ballot.
So
it's
section
five
of
the
ordinance
and
I
did
want
to
double
check
to
see
if
the
charter
required
specific
language
and
it
does
require
specific
language
and
ordinances.
But
this
is
not
one
of
the
things.
L
G
Yeah
aaron,
I
just
wanted
to
agree
with
you.
I
think
what
you
suggest
is
the
right
process.
I
think
we
should
amend
tonight
anything
that's
going
to
be
amended
and
that
way,
we've
kind
of
button,
everything
down
and
everyone's
kind
of
where
they're
going
to
be
and
then
we'll
bring
back,
and
I
agree
with
you
also
on
emergency.
I
don't
think
that's
necessary
here.
If
we
were
running
out
of
time,
emergency
might
be
necessary,
but
I
don't
think
that's
the
case.
G
Then
we
bring
all
five
of
these
back
at
some
date
in
late
august
or
early
september
when,
whenever
the
county
clerk
says
she
needs
to
have
this
stuff
done
to
us.
Presumably
it's
all
done
by
consent,
and
I
trust
my
council
colleagues
that
we
won't
fiddle
with
these
anything
anymore
after
tonight.
I
think
we've
done
a
good
job
of
talking
these
things
through
and
rachel
and
kathy
had
some
good
suggestions
on
some
changes.
I
think
we're
gonna
talk
about
one
from
matt
and
let's
just
get
the
stuff
buttoned
down
tonight
park.
H
Yeah,
council,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
conversations
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
clarifications.
H
I
hear
from
our
clerk
that
ballot
items
are
affected
immediately,
so
they
do
not
require
to
be
passed
on
emergency,
and
perhaps
what
I
would
say
is
we're
thinking
about
the
timeline
if
it
seems
that
there
is
one
ordinance
that
that
particularly
the
cu
south
language,
that
is
wanting
to
be
amended.
H
If
you
give
us
direction
on
that,
we
could
perhaps
not
vote
on
that.
We'll
continue
that
second
reading
on
august
18th.
We
have
time
set
aside
for
that
and
then
do
a
third
reading
on
september
1st,
and
then
we
can.
We
can
move
forward
in
that
direction
because
we
have
those
10
days
between
august
18th
and
september
1st
to
come
back.
B
Thanks
for
that,
mary
just
to
clarify,
while
while
you
don't
well,
it
won't
go
into
effect
immediately.
You
would
still
need
a
third
reading
if
you
had
amended
it
on
second
reading
right
so
and
the
only
way
around
that
is
to
pass
by
emergency,
but
I
think
so
I
think
so.
We
still
need
to
allow
a
past
second
reading
and
then
10
days
to
elapse
and
then
pass
on
third
reading.
I
believe.
H
B
Right
or
or
to
your
just
the
point
you
just
made,
you
could
bring
the
language
back
on
consent
on
the
18th
for
second
reading
amended
second
reading,
and
then
we'd
still
have
two
weeks
before
september
1st.
When
we
could
pass
it
on
third
reading,
it
would
go
into
effect
immediately
and
still
comply
with
each
other.
A
B
So
so
this
this
would
be.
The
the
suggestion,
then
that
I
would
make
to
my
colleagues
tonight,
is
that
we
we
do
a
straw
poll
for
amendments
that
we
would
like
to
see
for
any
particular
measures
give
that
direction
to
staff
on
those
particular
ones.
Have
them
bring
back
the
amended
versions
and
the
unamended
versions
in
a
week
on
the
18th
on
consent,
because
we'll
talked
it
all
through
tonight.
B
We
can
vote
for
all
of
them
and
you
can
vote
no
on
the
ones
you
you
really
don't
want
to
pass
through,
but
we
we
can
do
it
on
consent.
You
can
pick
which
ones
to
go
yes
or
no
on,
and
then
we
would
still
have
two
weeks
for
it
to
come
back
for
final
third
readings
for
the
ones
that
have
been
amended
on
september.
B
B
J
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
pull
this
language
back
up.
Give
me
one
second,
on
the
ordinance
on
cu
south.
I
want
us
to
change
the
language
that
currently
says.
This
ordinance
is
necessary
to
protect
the
public
health
safety
and
welfare
of
the
residents
of
the
city
and
covers
matters
of
local
concern
to
be
edited,
you
can
leave.
We
would
maybe
leave
in
that
last
clause.
J
It
sure
does
cover
matters
of
local
concern,
but
insert
instead
language,
as
cathy
has
suggested
that
it
is
a
a
requirement
for
us
to
place
it
on
the
ballot
or
whatever
the
best
language.
Is
there.
N
B
I
think
it's
good.
It
feels
fairly.
You
know
self-explanatory
to
me,
so
let's
do
a
show
of
hands
for
people
who
would
like
to
pursue
that
amendment
right,
I'm
seeing
most
people,
almost
everybody,
seven,
so
kathy,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
crafting
that
amendment
for
next
time.
Okay,
thank
you
and,
and
then
the
next
one
was,
I
believe,
kathy.
You
mentioned
that
you
think
there
needs
to
be
some
language
changed
to
correctly
get
the
no
indentured
servitude.
L
L
Okay,
I
have
to
first
pick
the
right
screen.
It's
it's
8546.
L
And
it's
on
what's
on
the
screen,
so
the
one
I
just
read
for
85
34.
nothing's
on
your
screen,
yet
right.
L
B
Great,
so
so
that's
to
be
clear
that
it's
the
term
that
has
to
be
that
will
extend
not
the
person,
and
so
the
person
is
not
bound
to
serve
the
term.
Exactly
all
right
show
fans
for
all
who'd
like
to
see
this
change.
B
B
I
think
the
last
one
was
was
matt.
You
you
were,
I
think
you
put
some
language
in
the
chat.
You
want
to
talk
to
what
you
were
suggesting.
K
Yes,
let's
see,
let
me
share
it
with
kathy
and
then
it
can
get
up
there
too.
I
love
being
able
to
see
it.
That's
the
good
stuff
versus
talking
through
the
language
right.
K
It
is
coming
through
the
chat,
so
it's
just
straight
off
the
top
boom.
Okay,
there.
It
is
so
I'll,
just
sort
of
describe,
as
was
sort
of
described
earlier
in
article
3,
section
22.
We
define
regular
municipal
elections,
as
you
know,
basically
as
being
aligned
with
state
ballot
elections,
and
so
since
we
define
it
as
such,
I
feel
that
in
the
current
language,
it's
helped
to
be
really
clear
to
the
voter
that
we're
not
just
changing
to
any
part
of
the
even
year
now
granted
in
the
ordinance.
K
It
states
that,
but
it's
better
to
be
as
explicit
in
the
question,
rather
than
letting
them
have
to
read
further
to
know
what
exactly
they're
getting
so,
instead
of
just
any
time
in
an
even
year,
we're
stating
very
explicitly
that
it
is
aligning
with
the
state
and
federal,
and
I
know
I
want
to
be
conscious
about
any
sort
of
extemporaneous
and
sort
of
other
types
of
language,
and
that's
why
this
was
sort
of
crafted
not
to
do
that
and
so
the
way
it
is
the
way
I
was
really
adapting,
it
was
to
say,
shall
sections
5,
14
and
24
of
the
homeworld
charter
be
amended
to
change
the
regular
municipal
election
to
align
with
the
state
and
federal
election
dates,
beginning
in
2026
and
then
effectively
leave
the
language
pretty
much,
as
is
I
mean
I
was
using.
K
The
word
shorten
kathy
was
saying
implemented.
The
transition
by
reducing
the
terms
that
stuff
to
me
is
is
mostly
the
same.
The
important
part
was
getting
rid
of
specifically
saying
even
years
and
saying
that
no
no
we're
this
is
to
align
with
state
and
federal,
which
implicitly
is
even
years,
and
so
that
way,
it's
a
lot
more
clear
to
the
electorate,
but
also
consistent
with
how
we
define
regular
municipal
elections
in
our
charter.
B
L
We
have
brought
up
that
are
concerned
that
well
one
we're
not
we're
not
going
along
with
the
federal
election
dates.
They
are
at
the
same
time,
but
we're
doing
we're
specifically
saying
and
the
reason
for
this
is
it
used
to
be
that
some
charters
said
that
elections
are
the
first
tuesday
in
november
and
a
lot
of
other
places.
It
said
they're
the
first
tuesday
after
the
first
monday,
so
there
are
some
years
where
those
were
two
different
dates,
so
it
was
very
confusing.
L
So
that's
why
we're
saying
it
the
same
date
as
the
state
ballot
issue,
so
that
if
we
ever
have,
you
know
the
first
of
the
month
on
a
wednesday
that
we
have
everybody's
having
their
election
on
the
same
tuesday
in
november,
even
though
it's
not
the
first
tuesday
after
the
first
monday.
So
that's
why
we
did
that
language.
So
we
can
change
it
to
say
that
we're
the
date
we're
changing
it
to
is
the
same
date
as
the
state
ballot
issue.
Election
can't
say
we're
doing
it.
L
L
K
Oh,
I
mean
it
gets.
It
gets
us
closer.
I
I
don't.
I
I'm
not
a
lawyer,
so
I
I
using
the
word
align
to
me
seems
pretty
a
line
seems
benign
pardon
the
rhyme
there
I
know
yeah,
it's
9
19..
I
gotta
have
a
little
levity.
So
so
I
I,
if
that's
somehow
a
pro
con
word,
so
be
it.
K
I
don't
see
how
it
could
possibly
be
construed
as
much
other
than
its
shock
talking
about
functionally
what
it
is,
it's
alignment,
so
I
so
yeah
I
would
be
okay
if
we
found
something
along
those
lines
just
so
that
we
made
sure
we
were
connecting
the
dots
on
that
I'd
love
to
get
some
thoughts
of
other
colleagues
that
were
interested
in
this
kind
of
modification
with
what
they
feel
on
it.
But
I
think
that
does
get
us
closer
to
being
clear
to
the
voters.
K
If
we
can
state
that
that's
aligned
with
state
the
federal
has
to
be
stripped
out
because
of
some
funky
definition
so
be
it.
F
Yeah,
I
was
just
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
the
language
that
kathy
is
suggesting
sounds
sounds
just
fine
to
me.
I
think
just
making
it.
You
know
crystal
clear
we're
talking
about
the
same
tuesday
as
the
state
elections
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
give
give
support
to
what
kathy
is
saying
here.
B
B
K
Yeah,
I
I
trust
the
the
professional
wordsmiths
to
figure
out
the
right
way.
As
long
as
you
know,
we
add
sort
of
where
we're
headed
I'd
love
to
sort
of
see
how
that
gets
massaged
in
place.
So
I
know
word
sniffing
alive
is
always
fraught
with
trouble,
so
I'll
trust,
teresa
and
gaffy
to
figure
out
the
right
way
to
make
that
work.
So
thank
you.
B
Great
ginny.
E
Yeah
no,
I
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
thought
that
these
amendments
are
coming
back
anyway
right
next
next
week,
next
thursday,
so
none
of
them
are
final.
So
we're
just
given
knots
to
go
forward,
bringing
you
know
not
to
staff
to
make
these
amendments
but
bring
both
versions
back.
So
maybe
next
tuesday
we
might
look
at
it
and
change
our
minds
and
go
back
to
the
original.
B
Exactly
thanks
for
clarifying
ginny
yep,
that's
right,
very
good,
which
is
the
I
think
the
good
thing
about
the
approach
that
we're
taking.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
tris
and
others
guiding
us
to
this
approach.
So
so
all
all
in
let's
do
a
straw
poll
here
then
all
in
favor
of
the
change
mat
is
suggesting,
as
as
as
altered
by
captain
with
her
proposed
approach.
B
All
right
did.
Did
anybody
have
any
other
proposed
changes
to
these.
D
And
we,
I
don't
know
exactly
how
this
fits
in,
but
the
yeah
just
the
change
around
potentially
doing
allowing
people
to
vote
for
five
seats.
If
a
city
council
member
was
running
for
the
mayoral
seat
as
part
of
eight
eight
five
four
zero,
but
if
that
adds
a
new
section
or
causes
too
much
complication
at
this
point
in
the
process.
B
So
lauren,
if
you
don't
mind
me
just
responding
the
the
concern
I
would
have
about
doing
that
now
is
that
that
might
have
implications
for
the
county
clerk
and
how
they
make
the
balance
so
that
they
might
say,
oh
sure,
that's
no
problem
or
they
might
say.
Oh
whoa,
that's
a
big
problem,
so
I
would
worry
about
moving
that
forward
without
betting
it
with
the
counterpart.
K
Can
I
kind
of
call
it
qui
a
little
bit
somewhat
related
is
there's
there's
a
few
items
that
have
are
kind
of
left
on
the
table
regarding
election
stuff
that
that
we,
we
will
probably
in
some
form,
have
to
come
back
to
down
the
road,
and
so
I
think
it's
I'd,
certainly
love
to
just
ask
my
council
colleagues,
if
there's
an
interest
in
the
next
year
or
so
lifting
up
another,
an
election
committee
to
kind
of
address
some
of
those
right,
we
talked
about
a
blue
ribbon
for
fair
pay.
K
I
think
we
will
have
to
address
this.
Perhaps
some
of
this
balanced
signature
pieces
when
we
get
there
so
so
I
I-
and
this
might
be
a
piece,
certainly
with
nicole
or
sorry
with
lauren's
point-
that
that's
maybe
something
with
a
little
bit
more
review
might
be
worth
considering
down
the
road
and
certainly
maybe,
if
you're
interested
in
proportional
representations.
K
I
think
there's
a
slurry
of
things
that
I
think
might
be
helpful
to
get
a
a
group
together
to
really
help
give
us
some
some
insight,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
everybody
that
there's
a
way
we
can
package
some
of
these
pieces
that
aren't
to
be
dealt
with
tonight,
but
can
certainly
be
shifted
into
sort
of
a
large
package
of
asks
from
a
working
group
to
help
give
us
some
guidance.
B
H
I
would
hope
not,
I
think,
that's
one
of
those
decisions
that
I
would
say
is
not
on
the
work
plan
and
depending
on
what
the
scope
we
would
come
back
and
have
a
an
appropriate
nod,
but
I
certainly
take
note
of
it
and
I
I
believe
that
we
can
talk
about
it
in
the
future.
In
that
vein,
I
know
I'm
the
I'm,
the
downer
of
it
all
right.
B
F
The
voice
of
reality
nuria,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
I
think
for
right
now,
I'm
not
supportive
of
making
that
kind
of
change
at
almost
9
30
at
night,
not
not
sort
of
having
really
thought
about
it.
All
that
much,
I
I
do
think
you
know
this
is
something
it's
future
councils
can
take
a
whack
at
this
too
right
if
we
head
down
a
path-
and
it's
just
not
not
working
anyway.
This
feels
like
it's
it's
in
good
shape
to
me.
AL
B
Thanks
all
right!
Well,
so
we're,
I
think,
we're
about
done
here.
It's
a
little
bit
underwhelming
because
we're
not
actually
going
to
vote
on
anything
tonight,
but
just
to
be
clear
again.
Here's
what
we're
looking
at
we've
got
three
of
these
items
that
have
minor
amendments
that
will
be
coming
back
to
us
in
a
week
with
specific
language
to
implement
those
minor
amendments.
We
will
at
that
time,
vote
they'll
come
back
on
consent
because
we've
all
talked
it
through
already.
B
If
we,
if
we
think
the
amendments
weren't
quite
done
right,
we
can
bring
it
up
and
talk
it
through
at
that
time
if
they
just
look
great,
we'll
vote
on
those
on
the
consent
agenda
and
again,
if
for
those
council
members
who
do
not
like
any
one
of
those,
they
can
vote
no
on
the
consent
agenda
on
those
items
at
that
time,
then,
two
weeks
after
that,
on
september,
1st,
all
of
the
ballot
measures
will
come
back
to
us
for
final
adoption
and
just
in
time,
not
by
emergency,
just
in
time
to
move
them
on
to
the
county
clerk
in
a
timely
fashion
and
again,
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
now.
Q
Mayor,
I
would
suggest
that
this
time
you
entertain
a
motion
to
continue
the.
B
Okay,
we
got
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor.
B
Just
raise
your
hands
for
this
one
I
think
yeah
is
that
right,
alicia
yeah
it'll
be
a
roll
call
when
we
get
there,
but
continuation
is
to
show
that
okay
thanks
for
well,
let
me
just
say
I
really
appreciate
all
the
community
members
coming
to
speak
to
us
about
this
and
all
the
people
who
helped
shape
this
policy
as
we
move
it
forward,
and
that
was
a
very
productive
discussion.
Everyone
and
that
got
a
little
complicated
at
the
end,
and
I
admire
how
you
all
moved
through
it
productively.
B
So
big
thanks
to
everybody
all
right.
We
have
one
other
thing
so
rachel
you
had
sent
something
out
on
email.
It
was.
It
was
past
cac,
so
we
didn't
amend
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
an
action
item
here,
but
if
you
want
to
just
mention
what
you're
thinking
we
can
talk
about.
J
We'll
make
another
pitch
so
at
the
retreat
we
gave
as
one
of
our
work
plan
items
to
develop
a
day,
shelter
and
day
services
for
the
city
of
boulder,
for
people
experiencing
homelessness,
and
as
part
of
that,
we
greenlit
doing
engagement
with
stakeholders
and
at
the
time
I
had
asked
that
we
maybe
include
one
to
two
council
members
as
participants
in
that
stakeholder
work
group
and-
and
I
just
found
out
over
the
weekend
that
that
work
group
was
coming
together
and
already
scheduling
meetings.
J
So
I
talked
to
kurt
a
bit
about
you
know.
How
would
we
maybe
include
council
members
and
I
see
vicky's-
got
her
camera
off,
but
knowing
that
the
dates
are,
I
want
to
say
like
two
weeks
out
and
maybe
maybe
not
during
work
days.
I
just
wanted
to
flag
it
and
see
what
we
wanted
to
do
for
getting
people
assigned
from
council.
To
that
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
subcommittee,
I
don't
know
what
the
formal
I'd
probably
turn
to
theresa.
J
For
that
question,
what
the
formal
mechanism
is,
but
I
think
that
it
would
be
open
to
the
public
and
anybody
could
watch,
but
in
terms
of
participants,
I
think
we
need
to
designate
probably
by
another
five
or
a
vote.
I
forget.
So
if
it's
yeah,
who
would
who
would
be
participating
in
that
and
I'm
hoping
vicky,
can
tell
us
the
dates
and
we
can
see
who's
even
available
and
who's
interested.
B
Great
and
so
let
me
say,
as
I'm
gonna
go
to
vicky
for
a
quick
status
update
and
then
I'm
gonna
check
in
on
what
we're
allowed
to
do
tonight
without
a
formal
agenda
item.
So
so
vicky.
If
you
don't
want
to
give
us
a
success,
and
thank
you
for
staying
with
us
tonight
for
to
weigh
in
on
us.
I
really
appreciate
it.
BG
Thank
you
good
late
evening,
vic
gibner
hhs
senior
operations
manager.
Thank
you
rachel
for
bringing
that
to
the
forefront.
We
are
moving
ahead
with
a
consultant.
The
consultant
is
doing
a
matrix
of
services
that
help
us
gather
stakeholder
input.
There
are
two
of
that
matrix
there.
BG
There
are
two
meetings
that
are
geared
toward
a
variety
of
stakeholders
and
they
will
be
open
to
the
public,
and
so
the
the
consultant
has
two
dates
identified
and
we
would
love
to
know
which
council
members
would
like
to
be
invited
to
those
meetings.
B
Thanks
for
that,
vicki
and
and
then
I
think
we
can
talk
this
through
a
little
bit
tonight,
but
maybe
teresa
could
weigh
in
like
are
we
allowed
to
designate
anybody
tonight,
given
that
this
wasn't
a
formal
agenda
item
or.
H
H
We
had
this
was
an
oversight
on
our
part,
as
we
were
thinking
about
it,
post-retreat
so
appreciate
you
bringing
it
to
our
attention
and
thinking
about
if
there
are
one
or
two
council
members
who
want
to
be
formally
invited
to
participate,
I
don't
know
what
you've
done
in
the
past
in
terms
of
taking
a
vote
or,
if
that's
a
nod
of
of
five,
to
move
that
forward.
The
way
it's
been
it's
been
entitled.
H
I
don't
know
that
we
need
a
formal
subcommittee
to
form
it
versus
who
are
the
one
or
two
members
who
want
to
move
forward
in
participating
in.
H
Q
And
then
procedurally
I'll
just
add
that
in
our
council
procedure,
rules
under
agenda
items,
matters
from
the
mayor
and
members
of
council
include
appointments
of
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
I
would.
I
would
say
that
that
this
falls
in
line
with
those
sorts
of
things.
So
you
all
can
take
formal
action.
B
Great
okay
and
I'll
just
say
that,
like
in
I
think
in
the
past,
when,
when
council
members
have
been
invited
to
attend
by
staff,
that
has
been
deemed
not
the
formation
of
a
formal
subcommittee,
so
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
different
if
it
takes
that
form
anyway.
So
maybe
what
we
could
do
rachel
is
look
and
see
if
one
or
two
council
members
are
interested
in
participating,
because
I,
for
one
would
welcome
council
members
getting
involved
if
they
would
like
to
so.
B
Does
anybody
want
to
raise
a
hand
and
say
they're
interested
yeah?
I
got
rachel
and
I
got
nicole.
We
got
matt
okay,
so
we
got.
We
got
three
people
and
then
I'll
say
to
I'll
turn
to
vicky.
I
think,
if
we're,
if
we're
dead,
I
feel
I
think
if
we
designate
two
people,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
open
meetings
here
is:
do
you
feel
like
that
would
be
an
impediment
to
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
that
committee
to
have
it?
You
know
on
a
zoom
meeting
versus
you
know,
that's
publicly
noticed.
BG
BG
There
are
some
separate
meetings
that
are
really
targeted
to
the
service
providers
that
are
likely
to
be
providing
these
services
and
those
are
really
focused
on
on
the
components
of
any
kind
of
sheltering
any
kind
of
services,
and
in
that
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
controlled
population
on
that
one,
and
then
there's
also
a
lot
of
work,
that's
being
done
to
get
the
voice
of
people
who,
with
lived
experience,
separate
from
a
meeting
situation.
BG
So
there's
lots
of
surveys
and
interviews
that
are
happening,
and
so
I
think
these
two
particular
meetings
if
they're
open
for
public.
Even
if
you
go
through
a
notice
process,
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
it
would
harm
the
overall
product.
J
J
I
was
told
that
the
time
was
something
different,
that
the
some
of
the
providers
had
different
times
it
would
than
what
you
stated
vicki.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
apples
to
apples.
I
I
wrote
down
from
what
you
said
august
24th
5,
to
6
15,
but
other.
I
think
some
people
were
told
august
24th
2
to
3
15.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we,
I
don't
know
if
that's
like.
BG
That's
the
service
provider
meeting
that
I
was
talking
about
that
it
organizations
such
as
mother
house
or
any
other
particular
sheltering
type
of
organization
or
service
providers
that
might
be
housed
within
the
service
center
have
been
invited
to
those
meetings.
The
the
times
I
gave
you
were
specific
to
the
public
stakeholder
meetings.
J
Okay,
I
guess
I
would
think
that
we
would
want
to
be
included
because
those
are
those
are.
You
know,
stakeholder
meetings
where
they're
going
to
be
talking
about
some
nuts
and
bolts,
and
I
would
I
would
have
thought
that
whoever
participates
would
be
involved
in
those
too.
So
maybe
that's
a
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
question
for
us,
are
you
and
kurt
yeah
so.
H
I'll
just
add
this,
I
mean
just
to
think
about
and
again
we,
although
it's
coming
up
soon,
we
can
have
further
conversation
of
it.
The
consultant,
I
believe,
has
advised
that
the
provider
meetings
really
be
private,
that
they
provide
some
space
for
the
provider
community
to
really
and
vicki
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
this,
to
really
have
some
candid
conversations
of
what
that's
moving
forward
and
that
would
be
preferable
as
we
move
that
forward.
H
If
we
have
council
members
on
it,
we
just
need
to
know
that
that
then
becomes
public
and
that
will
change
what
our
consultant
has
as
well
as
this
moving
forward.
There
are
broader
conversations
to
be
had
with
community,
and
certainly
council
members
can
participate
in
their
individual
capacity
as
well.
Although
it
still
has
the
same
rules,
it
would
be
considered
a
public
meeting
and
so
vicki.
Just
let
me
know
if
I've
gotten
anything
wrong
in
that.
BG
Now
I
think
that
that's
right,
the
the
consultant
wanted
some
targeted
meetings
really
to
take
advantage
of
the
expertise
of
some
of
these
service
providers.
They
know
what
the
gaps
are
in
the
community,
they
know
what
their
staffs
are
capable
of,
taking
on
and
and
so
really
wanted
to
have
some
of
those
focused
meetings.
BG
B
Okay,
council
participation
only
in
the
ones
that
are
sort
of
recommended
to
be
public.
J
I
mean,
maybe
I
also
wonder
if
we
could
just
get
you
know,
information
on
all
the
you
know
all
the
times
it
might
be
relevant
and
then
it
would
be
like
people
who
are
interested
could
block
it
off
on
their
calendars,
and
then
we
could
notice
this
for
next
week
as
something
that
we're
going
to
decide
on,
because
then
tara
would
be
back
too,
and
I
have
a
feeling
she
she
might
be
a
fourth
that
would
raise
her
hand
and
we
wouldn't
be
excluding
her
from
this
discussion.
BG
H
BG
Absolutely
and
of
course,
everything
that's
coming
out
of
these
sessions,
we
will
be
putting
together
in
a
report.
BG
We,
where
our
goal
is
the
september
first
meeting
with
our
annual
homelessness
update,
obviously
we'll
be
a
little
premature
to
have
a
formal
report,
but
we
can
at
least
provide
council
with
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
gotten
and
then
the
consultant
will
be
putting
together
a
full
report
with
all
of
the
information.
That's
included
that
we'll
make
sure
that
council
receives.
B
F
Yeah
I
just
had
just
a
couple
questions
and
which
is
first
of
all,
a
comment
that,
if
I'm
remembering
from
our
january
discussion
at
the
retreat,
I
think
when
we
had
talked
about
this,
we
really
had
envisioned
a
council
member
or
two
being
present
throughout
the
meetings,
and
I
think
the
other
thing
we
were
looking
for
was
the
list
of
the
providers
who
were
going
to
be
participating
in
this.
But
I
think
what
I'm
mostly
interested
in
at
this
point
is:
what
are
the
providers
interested
in
you
know?
F
Would
they
like
to
have
a
discussion
that
that's
just
them,
because
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
I
kind
of
feel
like
it
may
be
good
for
us
to
stay
out
of
it.
I'm
also
just
thinking
about
meetings
that
I've
been
in
where
there's
been
kind
of
a
a
group
discussion
and
then
some
other
folks
kind
of
come
in
at
the
end.
So
just
as
another
alternative
for
how
this
you
know
could
potentially
be
done.
F
If
the
providers
would
like
to
be
there
and
the
consultants
saying
no,
no,
it
really
needs
to
be
just
a
provider
conversation
anyway,
and
then
I
think
my
other
question
was:
if
there's
just
one
of
us
there
does
it
have
to
be
public
still?
No,
if
it's
just
one,
then
it
doesn't
have
to
be
public
at
all,
and
so
I
I
would
be
you
know.
I
trust
you
all.
F
I
would
be
willing
to
step
out
and
and
not
be
present
if
that
could
help
the
help
it
be
a
little
bit
better,
but
I
think
when
we
had
talked
about
it
at
least
I
had
not
sort
of
envisioned
this
as
like.
We
would
be
actively
participating
in
the
discussion
just
more
sort
of
present
so
that
one
of
us
would
have
the
information.
V
F
That's
being
discussed,
so
I
don't
know
if
that
made
it
clear
or
not,
but
other
alternatives
and
me
just
offering
to
step
back
if
that
can
help
make
make
it
be
not
public
thanks,
rachel.
J
I
appreciate
those
points
nicole,
I
you
know,
I
guess
it
seems
to
me
like
it's
going
to
be.
I
always
like
things
to
be
transparent
in
public.
So
generally
that's
going
to
be
better
and
we're
also
going
to
get
better
buy-in.
If
people
don't
feel
like
we
are
having
secret
meetings.
BG
K
I
just
since
I
had
raised
my
hand
in
interest,
but
I
will
I
I
want
to
clearly
defer
to
the
knowledge
and
expertise
and
full
trust
in
nicole
and
rachel
to
handle
whether
it's
two
or
one,
my
pulling
my
name
out,
doesn't
change
my
life.
My
interest
in
this,
I
is
still
very
much
there
but
very
capable
hand,
so
you
don't
need
to
know
to
worry
about
filling
two
with
three
people,
it's
between
the
two
of
them
and
we
can
sort
that
out
going
forward.
So
just
want
to
be
clear
on
that.
B
H
Can
I
just
say
mayor
and
I
and
I
don't
want
to-
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point
I
don't
want
to
abscribe.
H
Ill
or
or
erroneous
intent
in
in
saying
this,
but
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
that
the
intent
is
not
to
be
not
transparent.
Honestly,
the
intent
is
to
provide
a
avenue
and
a
forum
for
candor
on
issues
that
are
complex
and
difficult
and
are
often
very
personal
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
are
certainly
open
to
continuing
conversations
with
providers
continuing,
certainly
conversations
with
those
with
living
experience
and
with
our
consultant
to
make
sure
that
we're
trying
to
create
a
forum
and
an
environment
for
good
dialogue
and
conversation.
H
It
is
never
an
intent
to
have
lack
of
transparency
or
background
meetings,
and
so
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
that
out
loud,
because
I
don't
want
folks
to
go
away
with
the
notion
that
we're
trying
to
hide
anything
as
much
as
really
thinking
about
how
do
we
get
the
most
open
expression
of
what
is
happening.
And
I
realize
that
we
may
all
differ
on
how
that
moves
forward
and
that
there
is
also
power
in
shedding
light
and
and
opening
meetings.
And
we
try
to
do
that
very
much
as
a
city.
H
But
we
also
want
to
be
paying
particular
attention
to
perhaps
some
of
the
comments
from
our
consultant
and
our
provider
community,
who
have
expressed
that
they'd
like
an
opportunity
to
engage
in
not
so
much
of
a
public
setting
or
an
and
or
as
that
goes
forward
in
the
future.
B
Understood
all
right
thanks
for
clarifying
but
yeah,
I
don't
think
anybody
thought
anyone
was
trying
to
hide
things,
but
it's
important
to
clarify
okay,
so
I
think
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
agenda
and
our
plus
one
agenda
item
alicia.
We
have
anything
else
we
need
to
address.