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A
A
B
B
We
have
up
for
tonight
two
agenda
items
number
one:
an
update
on
the
transportation
core
arterial,
Network
pausing
here
to
say
thank
you
to
Sarah
Huntley
for
hitting
record
button
and
number
two
discussions
around
how
to
schedule
and
prioritize
our
work
over
the
coming
year
on
planning
and
development
services
and
then
I
think
we're
also
adding
a
third
item
which
will
be
a
quick
staff
update
on
vote
results
from
Tuesday.
B
So
the
first
two
items
might
not
sound
that
exciting.
But
honestly,
this
is
where
local
government
lives
and
breeds
buildings
and
Roads
and
how
we
help
community
members
to
move
around
safely
and
and
get
people
housed.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
exciting
stuff
to
cover,
but
first
an
announcement
and
I
think
we
have
a
slide
for
that.
B
B
Yes,
okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
go
right
into
the
meat
of
the
meeting.
The
first
item
up
will
be
the
core
arterial
Network.
You
will
also
hear
us
refer
to
it
as
can.
For
short,
this
is
slated
for
discussion
for
75
minutes,
so
staff
will
give
a
presentation
and
then
council
members
will
have
a
chance
to
ask
questions
and
then
we
will
discuss
and
offer
feedback.
B
I
will
note
that
council
member
Matt
Benjamin
is
absent
tonight,
but
he
did
send
in
feedback
via
hotline
and
if
anyone
watching
does
not
know
how
to
access
hotline,
Communications
you're
welcome
to
reach
out
to
any
of
us
or
to
the
clerk
Elisha,
and
we
can
help
you
out
and
then
I'm
about
to
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager,
Nuria
Rivera
vandermeid,
to
introduce
our
first
item,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
also
just
want
to
take
a
moment
for
all
of
council
to
have
the
chance
to
congratulate
one
of
our
own
Junie
Joseph
for
winning
a
really
big
and
important
election
on
Tuesday,
so
jazz
hands
for
Juni.
B
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
thanks
Council
for
I.
Think
we've
got
two
great
items
today
and
also
I
know
that
a
lot
of
folks
have
been
watching
the
results
of
our
local
elections
so
happy
to
chime
in,
at
the
end,
I'm
going
to
send
this
over
to
our
wonderful
interim
director
of
transportation
and
Mobility
Natalie
Stiffler
to
kick
us
off,
but
I
also
just
want
to
mention
we
received
and
I
know.
D
Council
did
as
well
a
great
letter
from
tab,
our
transportation,
Advisory
Board
and
wanted
to
publicly
thank
them
for
their
support
of
staff's
work.
This
has
been
truly
a
collaborative
effort
and
I
am
super
pleased
to
see
this
work,
move
forward
and
showcase
all
the
great
work
staff
has
done,
but
know
that
that
has
also
been
done
in
collaboration
and
conversations
with
tab
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
say
that
out
loud
Natalie
I'll
send
it
over
to
you.
E
F
All
right,
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
think
Council
staff
will
be
putting
the
presentation
on
the
screen
momentarily.
F
Tonight,
I'll
be
offering
an
update
on
the
Department's
work
plan
for
the
core
arterial
Network,
along
with
some
updates
on
active,
can
Corridor
efforts
and
where
we
are
at
with
Community
engagement
and
design
for
our
Baseline
Road
priority
Corridor,
followed
by
an
update
on
our
funding
strategy.
Lastly,
we'll
talk
about
next
steps.
Next
slide,
all
right,
let's
take
a
look
at
our
work
plan.
First
next
slide.
F
We
have
updated
our
work
plan
schedule
to
reflect
more
detailed
information
on
active
Corridor
progress.
Since
our
July
presentation,
you
can
see
both
the
original
April
version
and
the
revised
September
version.
In
the
memo
attachments
of
note
for
our
conversation
this
evening,
we've
broken
out
Baseline
into
two
phases.
Now
that
we
have
successfully
secured
funding
for
the
project
through
Dr
Cog,
Transportation
improvements,
program
or
tip
call
too
we've
also
tentatively
adjusted
the
timeline
for
Folsom
Street
and
the
downtown
Mobility
study
with
Folsom,
currently
a
candidate
for
tip
funding.
F
F
Earlier
this
year
we
launched
our
community
engagement
and
design
process
for
Baseline
Road
and
we'll
go
into
detail
tonight
on
the
progress
with
Baseline
staff
are
ramping
up
internally
to
initiate
Community
engagement
and
design
after
the
new
year
for
Iris
Avenue.
So
we're
now
in
the
pre-designed
phase
of
project
development
for
Iris
and
Folsom
is
now
a
candidate
for
tip
call
four.
F
All
right
now
that
we
have
a
feel
for
progress
on
the
overall
can
initiative
and
work
plan.
Let's
take
a
look
at
where
we're
at
with
Baseline.
The
first
of
our
three
can
priority
corridors
next
slide
as
we
presented
previously,
there
are
a
wealth
of
community
assets
and
populations
along
Baseline.
We've
been
working
to
reach
people
with
the
lived
experience
along
the
corridor
to
offer
their
insights
on
what
it's
like
traveling
along
Baseline
today
next
slide
in
line
with
the
city's
racial
Equity
framework,
we
also
met
with
the
City's
community,
connectors
and
residents
in
September.
F
We
gain
valuable
feedback
on
our
engagement
plan
and
local
contacts
and
business
owners
in
the
neighborhood.
The
community,
connectors
and
residents
also
provided
feedback
on
their
personal
lived
experience
of
traveling
along
the
corridor
that
we
will
also
take
into
consideration
in
the
design
process.
F
Next
slide:
here's
where
we're
at
with
Baseline
we're
now
in
the
conceptual
design
phase
of
the
overall
project
development
process.
As
we
synthesize
the
community
feedback
we've
received
to
date,
combined
with
our
existing
conditions,
analysis
and
pre-design
work,
we
will
start
to
identify
potential
project
elements
for
either
phase
one
or
phase
two
of
the
project
and
a
little
more
on
those
phases
in
a
moment.
Next
slide.
F
F
We
also
hosted
our
own
events
and
tabled
at
other
events
in
the
neighborhood,
where
folks
could
fill
out
paper
versions
of
the
questionnaire
or
mark
up
maps
to
document
their
experiences
traveling
along
the
corridor.
In
August,
we
held
a
Transportation
safety,
fair
for
children
and
adults,
partnering
with
Boulder
Community
Health,
to
distribute
free
bike,
helmets
and
lights
along
with
nurses
who
help
families
with
helmet
fittings.
F
H
Hi
there
I'm
Nathan
Pope
with
the
city
of
Boulder
and
we're
out
here
at
the
back
to
school,
Baseline
Transportation
safety.
Fair,
we
got
bike
lights.
We
got
Maps
we're
asking
folks
how
they
got
here
today
and
if
they
need
any
lights
or
anything
else
for
their
bike
Journeys.
We
also
are
kicking
off
a
project
where
we're
looking
at
improving
safety
along
Baseline
Road,
so
whether
you're
walking
biking
driving
or
taking
the
bus.
We
want
to
hear
from
folks
and
really
looking
to
improve
safety
for
everybody
on
Baseline
Road,
no.
I
K
C
O
P
P
100
from
a
safety
standpoint,
somebody
earlier
was
explaining
to
me
that
one
of
the
things
would
be
to
potentially
improve
the
separation
between
anybody,
who's
on
a
bike
or
or
a
pedestrian
in
the
cars,
yeah
and
and
so
I.
Think,
if
there's
a
way
to
put
up,
maybe
a
concrete
bear
or
something
to
make
that
a
clear
delineation
and
it
probably
is
a
good
move.
Safety
Wise.
F
H
F
F
Early
November,
we
released
a
slew
of
information
materials
on
the
project,
along
with
summaries
of
what
we've
heard
from
the
community,
a
virtual,
on-demand
open
house
at
the
Baseline
project
website.
Folks
can
access
these
materials
and
arcgis
online
story
map
that
walks.
You
through
background
on
the
project,
the
Project's,
phased
approach,
what
we've
learned
from
the
community
and
how
it's
being
folded
into
the
design
process
and
what
might
change
on
the
corridor
specifically
what
project
elements
are
under
consideration?
F
F
To
keep
too
many
members
in
the
project
area
engaged
and
invite
their
participation
with
the
on-demand
virtual
open
house.
We
have
sent
mailers
to
over
3
000
residents
in
168
businesses
and
those
should
be
hitting
mailboxes
as
we
speak.
We've
also
shared
an
informational
flyer
with
our
key
Partners
like
CU
Boulder,
and
offer
to
print
and
distribute
these.
If
that
works
better
for
reaching
folks,
we
also
created
a
Spanish
language
project,
fact
sheet
that's
available
for
download
and
in
print
next
slide.
F
So
what
have
we
been
hearing?
There
are
several
themes
that
are
emerging
as
we
continue
to
synthesize
the
feedback
we've
received
and
consider
it
as
we
make
progress
on
the
conceptual
design
for
phase
one
of
Baseline
folks
are
noting
their
perception
of
high
vehicular
speeds
and
large
volume
of
vehicles
traveling
along
Baseline,
and
how
that
relates
to
safety
for
other
people,
driving,
walking,
rolling
and
bicycling.
F
F
So
now,
let's
talk
about
how
this
project
will
roll
out.
Since
we
are
successful
in
our
Dr,
Cog
tip
call
to
application
for
Baseline
that
will
allow
just
under
4
million
for
comprehensive,
multimodal
Capital
intensive
enhancements.
We
are
approaching
this
project
in
phases
in
phase
one
which
we
aim
to
complete
next
year.
Local
dollars
will
be
used
to
add
physical
protection
or
hardening
and
strategic
prioritized
locations
to
upgrade
the
existing
bicycle
lane
that
is
today
demarcated
from
the
adjacent
travel
Lane
with
striping
and
flexible
delineators
pavement
resurfacing
will
also
be
completed
in
Phase
One.
F
Along
with
these
upgrades
to
the
existing
bicycle
lane,
we
will
also
have
the
opportunity
to
restripe
the
roadway
to
narrow
travel
Lanes,
a
proven
safety
countermeasure
to
reduce
vehicular
speeds,
we're
also
looking
at
how
to
improve
the
buffer
along
the
existing
bike.
Lanes
West
of
30th
to
28th
Street.
Although
local
dollars
are
limited
for
phase,
one
staff
are
currently
synthesizing
existing
conditions.
F
The
intent
is
to
implement
these
prioritized
locations
for
bike
lane
hardening
next
year
as
an
interim
measure,
to
gain
the
safety
benefits.
Now,
while
a
city
awaits
that
availability
of
the
Dr
Cog
tip
funds
for
phase
two
as
early
as
quarter
four
of
2024.,
there
are
also
some
related
safety
projects
at
spot
locations.
F
That
will
happen
concurrent
to
phase
one
funded
by
hsip,
which
I'll
cover
in
more
detail
on
the
next
slide,
then
phase
two,
the
award
of
Dr
Cog
tip
funds
for
Phase
2
offers
us
the
opportunity
to
deliver
more
comprehensive,
multimodal
Capital
intensive
improvements
such
as
completing
the
bike
lane
protection
implemented
in
phase
one
additional
intersection
and
pedestrian
enhancements
in
transit
efficiency
improvements.
Next
slide.
F
One
will
close
a
driveway
in
order
to
realign
and
signalize
an
existing
pedestrian
Crossing
at
Canyon,
Creek
and
another
will
Implement
protected
left
turn
phasing
at
Mohawk.
Needless
to
say,
this
Corridor
has
already
been
on
the
radar
for
our
transportation
operations.
Engineers
and
these
related
projects
will
complement
the
bike,
lane
protection
upgrades
and
other
improvements
currently
in
design
for
phase
one
next
slide.
F
F
As
we
have
advanced
further
in
the
design
process
for
Baseline,
we
have
now
started
to
assign
funds
for
specific
priority
Corridor
efforts
in
general.
The
approach
for
the
canned
funding
strategy
is
to
use
local
funds
for
design
and
Community
engagement.
We
will
generally
seek
external
Grant
funds
for
construction.
Where
we
can,
we
will
use
our
repurposed
local
budget
for
some
initial
installation
of
prioritized
Design
Elements,
such
as
the
upgrades
to
bike
lane
protection
in
Phase
One
of
Baseline
that
we
talked
about
earlier.
F
F
For
example,
the
cycles
of
Dr
Cog
tip
are
focusing
on
key
Connections
in
the
can,
such
as
30th
Colorado
and
Folsom,
considering
the
projects
that
have
been
recently
implemented
or
are
already
in
final
design.
We've
made
tremendous
progress
on
securing
the
future
of
these
efforts
next
slide
and
we
secured
over
6
million
in
grant
funding
for
the
cans
so
far
this
year
and
our
hopeful,
our
applications
for
remaining
Corridor
segments
and
tips
call
3
and
4
are
successful
as
well.
We
just
heard
that
one
of
our
two
can
related
applications
in
call.
F
Other
external
grant,
opportunities
on
the
horizon
could
offer
additional
funding
for
remaining
canned
corridors
such
as
Federal
Safe,
Streets
for
all
cdot's
Transportation,
Alternatives
program,
revitalizing,
main
streets,
safe
routes
to
school
and
Federal,
Highway,
Safety,
Improvement
program
grant
funding
and
we'll
continue
to
look
for
moments
where
we
can
integrate
can
work
with
our
ongoing
programs,
such
as
pavement
management
and
vision.
Zero.
Next.
F
It
was
previously
slated
to
start
in
2024
to
sync
up
with
other
city-led
planning
efforts
around
town
that
you're
going
to
hear
more
about
from
planning
and
development
services
later
tonight,
but
we
could
get
a
head
start
on
this
towards
the
end
of
next
year.
If
our
schedule
on
Folsom
is
relaxed,
while
we
don't
have
funding
secured
for
the
downtown
Mobility
study.
Yet
that
is
something
that
we
can
look
into
once
we
have
a
better
sense
of
timing
and
we
would
need
to
request
local
funds
for
that
in
2023
or
24.
F
next
slide
right
now,
let's
talk
about
immediate
next
steps
for
the
can
initiative
next
slide,
we'll
be
continuing
work
on
Baseline,
gearing
up
for
Iris
and
assembling
the
tip
call
for
applications
next
year,
we'll
initiate
our
public
process
for
Iris
and
we're
looking
at
summer
for
implementation
of
Baseline
phase.
One
next
slide.
F
B
R
Is
just
for
you
will
the
Baseline
improvements
involve
shutting
down
Baseline
for
any
extended
period
of
time.
F
Yeah
thanks
for
that
question
anytime,
there
is
pavement
resurfacing
that
comes
along.
We
will
have
periodic
lane
closures
and
we'll
make
sure
to
notice.
You
know
the
the
community,
members
and
businesses
are
immediately
impacted
by
that
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
aware
of
what
that
schedule
would
look
like
Garrett
or
David.
Is
there
anything
you'd
like
to
add.
I
This
is
Garrett
Slater
principal
Transportation
projects,
engineer.
So
that's
a
a
matter
of
practice.
We
generally
try
to
avoid
total
closures
if
at
all
possible,
and
if
we
do,
as
is
evidenced
by
the
recent
closure
that
took
place
at
30th
and
Colorado
intersection,
we
try
to
keep
them
as
short
as
possible
to
limit
the
impacts
of
the
adjacent
residents,
businesses
and
general
Community
or
Baseline.
I
R
Okay,
the
the
reason
I
ask
is
looking
at
Broadway
during
the
construction
for
the
hotel.
You
had
real
traffic
jams.
I
felt
like
I
was
back
in
New
York
at
various
times
of
the
day,
and
to
the
extent
that
we
can
minimize
that
I
I
think
it
would
be
very
valuable
for
the
community.
I
I
appreciate
that
feedback
and
recognize
that
that
was
definitely
an
inconvenience
okay.
Thank
you.
G
Yes,
my
question
is
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
community
members
like
me
who
write
up
and
down
Baseline
on
our
bicycles
would
have
the
same.
One
I
did
learn
something
new
I
believe
Canyon
Creek
is
a
street
I
never
heard
of,
but
is
that
right?
It's
actually
right
near
that
crosswalk
that
flashing
crossbar,
so
look
I
learned
something
new
awesome.
Tell
me
if
you're
gonna
keep
that
flashing
light
situation.
G
I
So
the
there
is
a
capital
project
that
was
identified
on
one
of
the
exhibits
that
Valerie
shared
and
so
that
Baseline
of
Canyon
Creek,
which
is
actually
located
sort
of
to
the
east
of
29th
and
west
of
30th
right
it.
It
will
shift
the
location
of
that
Crossing
and
thereby
the
the
the
flashing
beacons
that
will
be
accompany
that
Crossing
and
the
intent
of
that
is
to
increase
the
visibility
visibility
of
The
Crossing
for
approaching
Motor
Vehicles.
G
L
Yeah
good
evening
my
name
is
Devin
Joslin
I'm,
the
principal
traffic
engineer
and
my
team
is
overseeing
that
project
and
Tara.
That
project
will
actually
be
replacing
the
flashing
Beacon
there,
the
rrfb,
with
a
full
pedestrian
signal.
So
it
will.
It
will
become
a
full
traffic
signal
that
pedestrians
will
need
to
push
the
button,
wait
for
the
signal
to
change
and
then
cross
the
street,
but
it
it
will
control
traffic
in
the
same
way
as
a
regular
traffic
signal.
S
Yeah,
this
is
a
process
question
that
maybe
more
for
noria
or
Natalie.
Perhaps-
and
we
got
this
email
from
tab
that
really
highlighted
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
going
well
on
this
project.
I
think
our
lack
of
questions
also
highlights
that
too,
and
I
mean
my
question:
is
more
of
sort
of
a
process
question
around
how
what
did?
What
did
we,
as
counsel,
do
right
for
this
to
go
so
well?
Or
is
this
just
you
know,
staff
being
amazing,
as
as
they
are,
but
I'm
just.
S
You
know
I'm
curious
about
this,
because
it
seems
like
we're
ahead
of
schedule,
we're
talking
about
adding
work.
This
this
seems
pretty
phenomenal.
D
I'll
jump
in
quickly
before
Natalie
does
because
I
want
to
just
say
that
part
of
it
is
staff,
is
amazing,
but
I'll
say
too
and
Natalie
I'll.
Let
you
kind
of
continue
it
here
from
from
the
initial
conversations
when
you
all
were
discussing
this,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
one
of
the
important
things-
and
we
don't
always
do
this
well-
is
that
we
agreed
to
stop
doing
some
things
right.
It
wasn't
an
and
conversation
it
was.
This
actually
seems
more
of
a
priority.
It
will
impact
more
people.
D
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
make
this
move
forward
and
I
think
that
was
really
helpful
with
your
support
at
The
Retreat
as
we
were
talking
about
it,
and
then
that
really
enabled
staff
to
sort
of
pivot,
as
they
did
and
then
work
closely
with
tab
to
move
that
forward,
but
at
least
from
my
perspective,
that
is
a
critical
component
of
doing
some
of
this
work
and
and
really
sort
of
adjusting
to
new
priorities
as
they
emerge,
but
Natalie
I'll
send
it
over
to
you
yeah.
E
I'll
just
build
on
what
Nuria
said
that
it
definitely
is
I
would
say.
One
of
the
primary
reasons
is
because
we
were
very
clear
that
we
needed
to
stop
doing
a
few
things
if
we
were
going
to
Pivot
to
this
work
and
I
and
I
think
the
data
right
supported
that
pivot,
but
I'll
also
say
that
hasn't
been
easy
and
I
know
several
of
you
get
these
messages
and
staff
gets
the
messages.
E
I
mean
we're
on
a
weekly
basis,
still
with
folks
in
our
community
that
really
want
to
see
speeds
reduced
in
their
neighborhoods
as
well,
and
it's
hard
because
we
have
to
tell
them:
that's
not
our
Focus
right
now
and
and
we're
not
we're
not
making
improvements
in
that
area
and
the
data
supports
that.
But
it
is
not
an
easy
thing
to
do
so.
You
know
this
all
looks
amazing
and
it
is
amazing,
but
there
still
are
those
hard
conversations
happening.
E
You
know
on
a
weekly
basis
regarding
that
trade-off
and
I
would
say
the
another
piece
of
it
is
also
that
so
much
of
what
we
were,
we
were
already
doing
so
much
of
this
work.
E
It
was
the
story
that
we,
you
know
I,
think
struggled
to
tell
and
now
we've
been
able
to
really
coalesce
around
a
story,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
amazing
work
that
we've
been
doing
now,
you're
hearing
about
it,
the
community's
hearing
about
it
and
we're
doing
it
in
a
strategic
way,
so
I
think
that's
also
a
big
piece
of
it
and
certainly
Valerie
Garrett
and
Devin.
You
know
feel
free
to
add
to
that.
S
B
Nicole,
okay,
seeing
no
other
questions,
let
us
turn
to
discussion
and
answering
staff's
questions.
So
maybe
we
can
just
start
with
a
question
well
see
if
anybody
wants
to
have
a
general
discussion
item
first
show
of
hands.
Is
it
okay?
If
we
just
move
right
to
answering
staff's
questions,
bad
okay,
so
question
number
one
does
council
have
any
additional
questions
about?
Can
priority
Corridor
progress
in
2022,
I'm
gonna
assume,
that's
a
no,
because
no
one
had
any
even
general
questions.
B
Who's
got
feedback
once
twice,
God
awesome,
any
feedback
on
the
question
of
advancing
the
initiation
of
work
on
the
downtown
Mobility
study
component
of
can
from
quarter
3
2024
to
quarter
four
twenty
twenty
three
contingent
on
successful
funding
of
Folsom
redesign
application
and
Dr
Cog
tip
Monies
any
feedback
on
staff.
Moving
that
up
a
year
Aaron
then
Bob
and
Tara's
got
a
thumbs
up
already.
Thank
you.
Tara
Aaron.
T
Yeah,
it
makes
total
sense.
It
sounds
like
a
good
idea
and
I'll
just
while
I
haven't
said
that
also
say
just
how
much
I
appreciate
the
amazing
work
that
you've
done
here
in
tab
sent
us
that
email
earlier
today,
basically
just
talking
about
the
14
different
ways
that
you
all
have
done
a
phenomenal
job
on
the
Ken
Network
and
just
want
to
add
my
thanks
on
that
and
then
also
to
highlight
what
Natalie
said
about
you
know
part
of
how
you
get
a
success
like
that
is
by
letting
some
things
go
right.
T
It's
it's
always
there's
always
trade-offs.
There's
always
hard
choices
and
I
think
we're
going
where
the
data
leads
us
in
terms
of
you,
know,
safety
and
and
for
travel
in
our
community
and-
and
you
all,
are
doing
a
phenomenal
job
and
the
some
of
the
successes
on
getting
the
Dr
Cog
money
are
just
just
amazing,
so
yeah
so
I
think
you're
just
100
on
the
right
track
and
really
appreciate
all
the
amazing
work
that
I
did.
U
What
Aaron
just
said,
I'm
just
wondering
I,
know
that
there
was
some
of
this
in
the
memo
and
some
of
this
in
the
presentation
I'm
just
wondering
if,
since
we're
running
away
ahead
of
schedule,
if,
if
staff
can
take
a
few
minutes
and
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
what
the
mobility
study
will
cover
and
kind
of
what
the
scope
of
that,
that
might
be.
If
you
want
to
just
maybe
say
a
few
more
words
about
that.
E
I'm,
happy
to
and
and
then
others
can
chime
in
so
we
haven't.
We
haven't
scoped
to
this
I'll
say
that
that's
my
big
preface
what
I
I
think
some
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
as
a
department
is
that
and
with
our
colleagues
you
know
across
the
organization.
Is
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
look
at
all
of
the
one-way
streets?
You
know.
Is
that
something
that
we
want
to
continue
to
have
as
a
strategy
for
our
downtown
circulation
and
then
also
looking
at?
E
How
do
we
if
we
want
protected
bike
facilities
within
the
downtown?
How
do
we
accommodate
for
that?
Where
does
it
make
sense
to
have
protected
bike
facilities
in
the
downtown
really
just
and
even
thinking
about
Transit
right?
Where
does
Transit
fit
into
the
downtown?
We
certainly
have
a
history
of
the
Hop
serving
downtown
and
I.
Think
there
is
an
opportunity
to
just
kind
of
ask
our
ourselves
what
we've
had
for
an
access
and
Mobility
strategy
for
the
downtown
for
the
last
several
decades.
E
Is
that
still
relevant,
and
so
that
would
be
I
think
at
a
high
level.
What
we
would
be
thinking
about.
B
Bob
anyone
else
on
question
number
three
to
answer
so
I
mean
I,
I,
agree.
I,
think
this
is
a
testament
to
staff
that
this
is
is
humming
coming
along
marvelously.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
work
and
I
also
want
to
give
a
special
shout
out
to
Alex
Weinheimer
from
tab
who
really
helped.
It
helped
us
to
Forge
the
whole
concept
of
can
and
brought
the
data
and
in
some
of
the
initial
visualization
of
it,
so
I
think
Nicole.
You
know
to
your
question:
that's
part
of
what
what
the
magic
was
too.
B
B
You
thanks
Natalie
thanks
everyone,
and
you
know,
while
transportation
is
here,
I
I
got
a
text
just
now
that
says
that
there's
a
light
out
at
Baseline
and
foothills,
which
seems
like
an
important
light
to
have
on
so
bass
lines
up
again,
so
reporting
that
right.
B
Don't
know
if
it's
even
true,
but
it's
here
so
now
you
have
it
okay.
So
let's
move
let's,
let's
hope.
The
second
agenda
item
is
just
as
as
fantastic
as
this
one
in
terms
of
beating
our
pace
and
all
all
of
us
getting
along
and
paddling
in
the
same
direction.
So
second
one
is
going
to
be
planning
and
development
services
and
how
to
schedule
and
prioritize
our
planning
work
items
over
the
coming
year.
B
We
have
two
hours
and
15
minutes
scheduled
for
this,
so
I
guess
buckle
up
or
do
the
opposite
and
stretch
your
legs
and
we'll
have
the
same
format
as
before.
We'll
get
a
staff
presentation,
then
we'll
have
Council
questions
and
discussion
or
not
if
it
goes
like
last
time
so
back
over
to
Nuria,
please
for
introductions.
D
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
I'll
say
well.
We
have
all
that
time.
We
don't
need
to
take
all
that
time
so
feel
free,
though
save
some
time
for
post-election
wrap-ups
right.
D
This
has
been,
and
this
is
not
new
right.
We
have
talked
a
lot
about
all
the
projects
on
pnds's
plate
and
I'll
say
that
some
of
those
projects
actually
involve,
as
Natalie
was
saying
some
of
our
other
departments
across
the
organization
and
hoping
that
we
can,
through
this
conversation,
that
a
you'll
be
able
to
to
see
all
the
amazing
work
that
pnds
is
doing.
D
It
is
a
phenomenal
amount
of
work
that
they've
had
both
that
was
already
started
and
as
they're
coming
to
some
of
those
to
a
close
I
think
you'll
see
some
of
that
and
then
trying
to
find
ways
to
accommodate
some
of
the
new
work
plan
items
knowing
that
Council
certainly
has
an
interest
in
in
pushing
us
forward
in
really
interesting
and
novel
ways
to
make
some
changes
for
our
community
for
the
benefit
of
all.
So
with
that,
I
will
ask
our
director
of
planning
and
development
services
Brad
Mueller
to
take
it
away.
V
Thank
you
so
much
Nuria
and
good
evening,
mayor
Pro,
tem
friend
and
council
members.
We
are
truly
excited
to
come
forward
to
you
this
evening
and
be
able
to
have
a
discussion
around
around
these
many
items,
and
we
appreciate
the
time
and
space
to
be
able
to
talk
about
this.
This
is
truly
a
collaborative
effort
in
every
sense
of
the
word.
We
are
going
to
deviate
a
bit
from
the
norm
and
do
a
lot
of
tag
teaming
so
you're
going
to
hear
from
many
of
us
as
Nuri
mentioned.
V
I
am
the
director
of
planning
and
development
services,
but
we
will
also
hear
from
Charles
Farrow,
who
is
our
senior
planning
manager
for
development
review,
Christopher,
Johnson
who's
senior
planning
manager
for
comprehensive
planning
current
book
going
guyler?
Who
is
our
senior
policy
advisor
Lara
curse?
Who
is
a.
V
V
Really,
we
would
encourage
you
to
think
of
this
in
two
pieces.
We
are
going
to
be
doing
a
bit
of
a
deep
dive
on
Accessory
dwelling
units
and
Boulder
Junction
of
phase
two
you'll
recall
that
we
were
in
front
of
you
a
couple
months
ago
about
Boulder
Junction
phase,
two,
where
you
gave
us
Direction
on
the
scope
and
we're
going
to
give
you
what
that
looks
like
now
that
we
have
that
direction
and
moving
forward
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
Similarly
has
a
long
ramp.
V
V
We
wanted
to
have
this
presentation
at
this
study
session
really
so
that
we
could
have
an
honest
conversation
with
your
Council
about
how
we
can
best
deliver
a
win,
a
win
for
you,
a
win
for
the
community,
a
win
for
the
Department
as
well,
with
five
of
the
10
counts
of
priorities
that
you
sent
last
January
being
within
planning
and
development
services.
We
have
worked
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
develop
an
approach
that
we
achieve
as
many
of
these
as
possible.
V
In
the
spirit
of
on
his
conversation
and
transparency.
We
need
to
admit
that
we
lost
some
staff
capacity
this
last
summer
and
actually
into
the
spring
already.
We
lost
four
senior
planners
for
for
good
reasons,
a
couple,
retirees
and
one
moving
to
another
department,
which
we
always
support,
that
personal
growth
and
we
did
anticipate
a
couple
of
those
changes
and
were
able
to
replace
them.
V
But
that
replacement
took
some
time
from
from
our
overall
effort,
maybe
about
three
months
or
so
in
in
Practical
terms,
I
really
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Charles,
though
we
were
able
to
film
all
of
those
positions
in
very
short
order
with
senior
staff,
and
in
fact
three
of
those
four
are
returning.
V
Staff
members
from
previously
working
at
Charles
was
beating
the
bushes
and
just
very
successful
on
behalf
of
the
department
and
City
and
bringing
those
folks
Sarah
who
you'll
hear
from
tonight
was
that
fourth
person
and
she's
hitting
the
ground
running
to
it,
where
we
couldn't
be
happier
to
have
her
with
us.
We
also
have
had
to
work
in
an
environment
where
development
review
and
building
permits
have
been
as
high
as
they
ever
have.
That
has
been
tough
and
we've
had
to
make
some
decisions
in
that
regard.
V
Regarding
workload,
as
you
know,
we've
been
hearing
from
the
public
about
the
turnaround
times
on
those
and
made
the
decision
to
have
staff
Carl
in
particular,
who
you'll
hear
from
tonight,
move
over
to
do
development
review
and
try
to
just
balance
that
so
we're
also
addressing
that
very
urgent
need
as
well.
I
will
say
to
council
that
we
very
much
appreciate
the
additional
staff
that
you
approved
as
part
of
the
budget,
the
additional
Consulting
dollars.
V
We
actually
jumped
ahead
on
trying
to
get
those
additional
staff
hired
even
before,
if
I'm
allowed
to
admit
this,
the
budget
was
fully
approved
and.
V
Please
retract
that
last
statement,
yes
and
no
that's
I-
think
we
even
made
an
offer
of
one
of
those
today,
so
we
are
working
hard
to
be
able
to
hit
the
ground
running
both
with
experienced
staff
coming
back
and
hiring
as
quickly
as
possible.
We
absolutely
Council
have
the
bias
towards
action
and
completing
things.
V
C
V
Slide
please:
some
of
these
are
geographically
based.
You
can
see
that
on
the
map
here,
many
of
them
are
not
so
this
is
just
the
broadest
overview
possible
and
if
going
to
the
next
slide,
please
we
will
conclude
with
three
councils
to
collect
three
questions
to
council,
rather
about
both
the
scope
of
adus,
the
scope
and
any
further
comments
on
Boulder
Junction
phase
two
and
then
the
larger
recommendation
and
alternatives
for
Alternatives
I
should
say
about
prioritization.
V
So
with
that,
I
am
going
to
do
the
first
of
several
handoffs
to
Visa,
who
will
present
our
the
first
of
our
two
bigger
topics
and
we'll
continue
from
there.
Thank
you.
W
W
So
over
the
last
few
months,
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
data
analysis,
conducting
internal
stakeholder
interviews
with
all
of
the
staff
that
work
on
adus
in
the
city,
and
then
we
also
had
a
survey
of
all
of
the
Adu
owners
in
Boulder,
starting
out
with
some
background.
Adus
have
been
in
place
in
Boulder
since
1983,
when
the
first
Adu
ordinance
was
adopted.
So
you
can
see,
through
this
chart
the
number
of
adus
that
were
approved
each
year
since
then,
and
kind
of
the
major
regulatory
changes
that
happened
along
the
way
you
can
see.
W
For
that
evaluation,
we
really
dug
into
those
last
few
years
to
try
to
understand
what
changes
really
made
the
most
impact
on
Accessory
dwelling
units
in
Boulder.
So
we
looked
at
the
time
period
from
when
those
changes
went
into
effect
on
February,
1st
2019
through
kind
of
mid-summer,
and
the
total
was
280u
applications
that
were
approved.
In
that
time,
we've
had
96
adus
that
have
been
completely
built.
W
Almost
two-thirds
of
adus
in
that
time
were
detached,
which
means
they're
separated
from
the
structure
the
of
the
main
house
on
the
lot
and
then
83
of
those
were
attached.
We
looked
at
the
average
size
of
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
that
was
coming
up,
and
these
are
the
ones
that
have
been
approved
since
2019.
That
comes
up
at
about
640
square
feet.
We
do
have
different
allowances
for
detached
and
attached,
so
the
average
sizes
for
those
differ
as
well.
W
W
They
also
focused
on
the
saturation
limit,
knowing
that
that
was
specific
direction
that
was
given
by
Council
to
understand,
because
in
2018
one
of
those
changes
that
was
made
was
an
increase
in
the
saturation
limit
from
10
to
20.
So
what
the
saturation
limit
does
is
set
a
cap
on
the
percentage
of
adus
allowed
in
a
particular
neighborhood
area,
and
so
in
2018
it
increased
from
10
to
20
percent.
W
We
wanted
to
understand
what
that
change,
what
impact
that
change
had
on
the
number
of
adus
approved
over
the
last
few
years
about
a
quarter
of
those
adus
are
in
districts
that
don't
actually
have
a
saturation
limit
so
that
changed
an
impact
them
and
then
over
50
percent
over
half
actually
still
met
the
previous
saturation
limit
of
under
10,
so
that
change
didn't
impact
them.
W
we,
while
we
looked
a
lot
at
the
data
for
the
these
approved
adus,
we
also
wanted
to
understand
what
the
barriers
might
be
for
Adu
Construction
in
Boulder,
for
the
people
that
might
never
go
forward
with
an
application,
but
might
be
submitting
inquiries
to
the
city
or
considering
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
W
What
we
found
by
looking
at
the
inquiries
that
we
received
through
our
customer
service
portal
in
choir
Boulder
is
that
the
majority
of
questions
that
we
get
related
to
adus
is
about
saturation
limits,
so
this
is
definitely
a
part
of
the
code
that
is
poorly
understood
by
our
residents.
It's
information
that
homeowner
is
not
able
to
get
on
their
own,
so
they
have
to
reach
out
to
the
city,
and
the
city
then
has
to
a
staff.
W
Member
has
to
calculate
the
saturation
limit
for
them
for
them
to
understand
if
an
Adu
is
even
possible
on
their
property.
So
that's
just
one
of
the
main
concerns
with
saturation
limits.
I
included
some
quotes
from
these
actual
tickets.
That
came
in
just
to
give
you
kind
of
the
flavor
of
what
people
are
asking
people
do
seem
to
understand
that
there
is
a
saturation
limit,
but
because
there
is
no
way
for
them
to
know
what
the
saturation
limit
is
of
their
neighborhood
and
particularly
their
parcel.
W
They
aren't
sure
if
they're,
even
able
to
you,
know
dip
their
toes
in
the
water
of
building
an
Adu,
so
I
think
the
one
in
the
top
right
really
represents
a
lot.
We
would
like
to
consider
an
Adu
over
the
garage
of
our
home,
but
we
need
to
confirm
that
the
location
is
not
saturated.
First.
How
do
we
do
that
without
submitting
a
full
application
submitting
the
fee
things
like
that?
So
that's
really.
W
In
addition
to
completing
the
Adu
evaluation,
we've
also
been
doing
a
lot
of
research
on
comparable
cities
around
the
country.
There's
a
whole
Matrix
in
your
packet
that
you
can
take
a
look
at
for
over
30
cities
and
what
their
Adu
regulations
are.
But
I
did
just
want
to
highlight
a
couple
key
takeaways,
the
first
being
that
we
cannot
find
another
city
in
the
country
that
has
a
saturation
limit
for
adus
and
I.
W
So
I
think
that
that's
important
to
reflect
on
the
saturation
limit
has
been
in
place
since
that
original
ordinance
for
adus
in
1983
and
while
certainly
40
years
ago,
adus
were
a
new
land
use
concept
and
there
were
concerns
about
potential
impacts
of
introducing
these
accessory
dwelling
units
into
our
cities.
We
now
have
over
40
years
of
experience
with
adus
and
like
many
cities,
these
impacts
can
be
mitigated
in
other
ways,
such
as
zoning
standards
or
compatible
development
standards.
W
All
of
the
other
things
that
ensure
that
any
potential
impacts
are
mitigated
also
a
couple
key
other
key
takeaways.
Only
a
few
of
the
other
cities
that
we
looked
at
actually
have
a
minimum
lot
size
for
adus.
Definitely
the
cities
that
have
undergone
recent
updates
to
their
Adu
regulations
seem
to
be
going
away
from
having
a
minimum
lot
size,
so
that's
kind
of
a
common
Trend.
W
Almost
all
cities
do
limit
it
to
only
180u
per
lot,
so
that
was
interesting
relative
to
the
specific
direction
that
was
given
Boulder's
maximum
size
of
detached
adus
is
actually
we
found
that
to
be
smaller
than
most
other
cities
in
the
country,
although
if
you
look
at
the
maximum
sizes
in
Colorado
a
lot
of
the
cities
in
Colorado
kind
of
tend
to
the
smaller
side,
but
generally
Nationwide,
typically
it's
closer
to
about
800
square
feet
or
they
use
a
percentage
of
the
principal
structure.
W
W
So
there's
a
lot
more
detail
in
the
full
Adu
evaluation
and
I
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that.
That's
something
that
was
always
planned
to
occur
when
those
changes
were
adopted
back
in
2018
and
to
inform
future
code
changes.
So
that's
why
it
made
a
lot
of
sense
to
do
it,
as
we
were
thinking
through
this
upcoming
work
program
priority.
W
But
this
is
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
conclusions
that
the
evaluation
comes
to.
So
looking
back
at
the
changes
that
were
made
or
adopted
in
2018,
we
found
data
to
support
that
the
changes
that
really
did
reduce
barriers
to
Adu
Construction
in
Boulder
included
the
changes
to
the
saturation
limit,
increasing
the
maximum
size
for
the
saturation
limit,
as
I
mentioned
about
40
additional
adus
were
built
because
of
that
increase
in
the
saturation
limit
for
the
maximum
size.
W
The
evaluation
also
illuminated
several
remaining
potential
improvements
that
we
think
as
staff
would
further
reduce
the
barriers
to
adus
that
exist
in
Boulder
and
really
meet
the
objective
of
this
Council
priority
number
one
as
noted
eliminating
the
saturation
limits.
We
think
that
that
would
reduce
a
very
significant
perceived
barriers
for
homeowners
around
Boulder,
as
well
as
a
real
administrative
issue
and
burden
for
both
staff
and
Property
Owners.
W
Just
in
the
overall
timing
and
efficiency
of
the
process,
I
also
recommend,
or
some
of
the
other
improvements
that
we
think
would
further
reduce
barriers
would
be
reconsidering
floor
area
and
the
way
that
adus
are
measured.
I
won't
get
into
the
nitty-gritty
zoning
details,
but
adus
are
measured
differently
than
any
other
structure
in
the
zoning
code,
and
so
that
creates
some
inefficiencies
and
confusion
with
applicants
and
homeowners.
W
That
could
be
clarified
additionally,
considering
an
another
increase
in
the
maximum
floor
area,
we
think
would
result
in
additional
adus
some
other
things
like
extending
the
length
of
time
that
Adu
approvals
are
in
place
before
they
expire.
We
think
would
help
as
well
as
adding
an
option
to
increase
variance
or
at
to
increase
height
through
a
variance
process.
As
we've
seen,
several
recent
applications
run
into
issues
when
they're
trying
to
adapt
an
existing
structure
that
is
over
the
height
and
then
you'll,
see
in
the
Adu
evaluation.
W
There's
a
lot
more
detail
about
the
code,
clarification
and
process
improvements.
As
we
went
through
all
of
these
stakeholder
interviews,
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
are
pretty
minor
code,
clarification
cleanups
that
could
be
made
that
could
fix
some
common
problems
and
really
increase
user
friendliness.
So
things
just
general
things
like
reorganizing
using
some
different
language.
W
A
lot
of
the
language
remains
from
1983,
so
just
updating
it,
making
it
more
modern
and
in
line
with
how
the
rest
of
the
code
is
coming
up
to
up
to
date,
there's
also
some
things
that
aren't
code
changes
is
that
could
really
make
a
difference.
So
process
improvements
such
as
streamlining
and
Expediting
approvals
that
we
think
could
make
a
big
difference
in
regards
to
community
engagement
on
the
project.
W
So
far,
so
we
worked
with
our
great
colleagues
in
housing
and
Human
Services
to
put
out
a
survey
of
all
of
the
Adu
owners
over
this
past
fall
early
fall,
September
and
October,
and
housing
and
Human
Services
has
done
this
survey
several
times.
So
we
have
comparable
data
from
both
2017
and
2012..
So
it's
a
really
interesting
way
to
see
how
attitudes
about
adus
have
changed
over
time
and
how
these
AVS
are
being
used
in
our
community.
We
got
1200
212
responses,
which
is
a
48
response
rate.
W
So
that's
a
really
great
representative
sample
of
these
Adu
owners
and
again
there's
a
lot
more
detail
in
the
Adu
evaluation.
But
some
highlights
that
I
wanted
to
just
feature
is
that
compared
to
previous
years
and
previous
surveys,
there
is
a
greater
percent
of
adus
currently
that
are
being
used
as
space
for
visitors
or
relatives
rather
than
additional
housing
units.
W
Finally,
we
asked
if
owners
would
be
interested
in
pursuing
a
second
Adu
and
77
over
three
quarters
said
they
would
not
be
interested
in
a
second
Adu
on
their
lot.
I
did
also
want
to
highlight
that
the
housing
Advisory
board
has
been
discussing
adus
over
the
last
few
meetings.
W
W
That's
where
we
think
that
the
greatest
impact
could
be
made
in
meet
in
reaching
that
objective
of
increasing
additional
adus
in
our
community.
We
are
recommending
delay
to
Future
consideration,
maybe
a
future
project.
The
idea
of
allowing
more
than
one
Adu
per
lot
and
I
wanted
to
explain
why,
because
I
know
that
was
one
of
the
main
directions
from
The
Retreat
earlier
this
year
in
completing
all
of
these
different
routes
that
we
went
through
for
this
Adu
evaluation.
W
We
just
didn't
see
a
lot
of
evidence
that
that
was
something
that
was,
you
know,
standing
out
as
a
barrier
to
Adu
construction,
and
so
in
order
to
really
make
the
most
impact
with
these
code
changes
and
keep
them
targeted.
We
thought
that
those
four
items
recommended
as
a
focus
would
have
more
of
an
impact
on
the
number
of
adus
in
the
community.
W
There's
also
some
more
complexity
and
complication
that
comes
up
with
that
that
item,
because
we
would
have
to
think
through
whether
there
would
be
additional
changes
to
the
occupancy
restrictions
for
adus
how
that
would
affect
parking
restrictions.
It
just
brings
up
a
lot
more
questions
than
the
ones
that
are
recommended
as
a
focus
which
are
really
quite
targeted.
W
Also,
one
of
the
housing
advisory
boards
recommendations
was
to
eliminate
parking
requirements
for
adus.
That
was
certainly
something
that
we've
seen.
Other
cities
do
recently
I
mentioned
that
there's
some
variability
in
those
cities
we've
looked
at
on
whether
they
require
parking
or
not.
However,
we
think
that
the
way
that
the
code
is
written
now
requires
one
parking
space
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
W
However,
if
the
owner
chooses
to
do
an
affordable,
Adu,
they're
Exempted
from
that
parking
requirement,
so
we
do
have
the
option
right
now
for
people
if
they
need
to
to
to
go
forward
without
an
additional
parking
space
as
long
as
it's
an
affordable
Adu.
So
we
think
that
there's
there's
currently
an
Avenue
to
do
that,
but
the
idea
of
eliminating
parking
requirements
entirely.
We
believe
that
that
would
be
a
more
complex
change
to
make
less
of
a
targeted
change
and
something
that
would
probably
require
more
robust
public
engagement.
W
B
Thanks
so
much
for
that
Lisa
before
we
move
on
I
have
a
question
for
Brad
and
then
I
see.
Bob
has
a
question
as
well:
okay,.
V
Okay
yeah,
your
question.
B
V
X
X
When
we
look
at
the
initiation
of
phase
two,
it
should
be
based
off
of
three
criteria.
That's
been
identified
already,
so
the
first
is
to
demonstrate
phase.
One
has
been
substantially
completed
right
now.
Pnds
staff
are
currently
preparing
a
phase,
one
outcome
report
and
we're
working
on
that
with
other
departments
as
well.
X
So
if
you
remember,
at
the
study
session
back
in
September,
22nd
city
council
was
presented
with
two
different
options
for
the
scope
of
work
for
phase
two.
The
first
option
was
essentially
to
just
implement
the
plan
as
it
stands
today.
The
second
option
included
an
evaluation
of
the
proposed
land
uses
and
Mobility
Connections
In
The
Phase
2
area
to
ensure
that
they're
aligned
with
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan,
Market
Tran
market
trends,
as
well
as
current
Community
needs.
X
So
council
members
also
reiterated
the
importance
of
utilizing
racial
Equity
instrument
as
part
of
the
process
engaging
the
community
that
now
lives
or
works
in
the
phase
one
area
to
understand,
what's
working
as
well
as
what's
not
working
today
and
to
also
evaluate
the
place
making
and
Urban
Design
Elements
in
a
plan
Amendment
for
the
phase
two
area.
So.
X
It
was
found
that
this
approach
may
not
necessarily
create
efficiencies
in
the
schedule,
and
it
also
might
lead
to
repetition
of
multiple
tasks
when
we
move
from
one
area
to
the
next.
So
instead
we're
proposing
to
consolidate
tasks
and
to
sequence
the
project
in
a
way
that
distinguishes
the
planning
updates,
so
tasks
one
through
three
from
the
implementation
steps
tasks.
Four
and
five,
for
example,
the
goal
is
to
reach
a
meaningful
Milestone
and
initiate
the
adoption
process
for
the
planned
amendments,
as
well
as
updates
to
the
bbcp
land
use
map
by
late
summer.
2023.
X
then,
implementation
steps
such
as
zoning
updates
potential
expansion
of
the
general
Improvement
districts
and
infrastructure
phasing
that
will
then
occur
once
a
planet
amendment
has
been
adopted
and
there
also
might
be
some
tasks
that
can
overlap
without
adoption
process
as
well.
So
the
overall
schedule
we're
anticipating
that
both
the
plan
Amendment
as
well
as
the
initial
implementation
steps,
such
as
zoning
updates,
will
be
completed
in
approximately
18
to
21
months
next
slide.
X
So
this
project
is
unique
since
it
now
includes
a
potential
plan
amendment,
in
addition
to
implementation
of
the
phase
two
area,
so
I'll
go
over
a
few
of
the
elements
of
the
community
engagement
approach,
but
please
keep
in
mind.
This
does
not
include
specific
Outreach
and
engagement
for
each
task.
Our
Communications
and
engagement
plan
will
provide
more
detail
for
that.
X
So,
in
general,
we
plan
to
do
broad
Community
engagement,
especially
for
understanding
Lessons,
Learned
From
phase,
one
evaluating
potential
alternatives
for
a
plan
Amendment
and
then
also
reaching
consensus
on
a
preferred
approach
for
a
plan
Amendment
in
general.
We
plan.
So
sorry.
We
also
plan
to
have
focus
groups
that
may
be
engaged
throughout
the
entire
project.
X
So
when
we
think
about
engagement
as
a
whole
for
this
project,
we
know
we
want
to
be
strategic
and
ensure
we
are
clearly
communicating
engagement
opportunities
and
how
they
are
aligned
with
the
scope
of
work.
We
also
want
to
approach
engagement
with
the
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion
lens
using
the
racial
Equity
instrument
throughout
the
project
will
help
us
do
that,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
engagement
is
accessible
and
flexible
by
providing
information.
That's
interesting
and
offering
different
ways
for
people
to
be
conveniently
participate
in
the
process.
X
So
we
look
forward
to
hearing
any
additional
feedback.
We
have
that
we
receive
from
you
on
this
updated
scope
of
work
and
schedule,
we'll
plan
on
taking
this
information
to
planning
board
on
November
15th
to
receive
their
comments
and
input
before
we
finalize
the
scope
of
work
and
the
community
engagement
approach
and
then,
lastly,
we'll
plan
to
formally
kick
off
the
project
early
next
year.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
now
I'll
pass
it
off
to
Carl.
O
I'm
going
to
talk
mostly
about
the
code,
change
items
and
then
I'll
pass
it
back
to
our
comprehensive
planning
team
next
slide.
Please.
So
council
is
familiar
with
the
site
review
criteria
update.
This
is
a
project
that
is
pretty
much
coming
near.
The
Finish
Line
It's,
the
final
component
of
the
community
benefit
project
which
commenced
in
2018.
We
came
back
to
Council
on
August
25th
as
part
of
a
study
session
to
get
some
direction
on
the
drafting
of
the
ordinance
we've
been
revising
the
ordinance.
We
now
have
an
updated
draft.
O
So,
like
I
said
this
project
is,
is
nearing
completion.
Our
next
slide,
please,
council
is
also
familiar
with
the
use
table
and
standards
project,
as
we
also
talked
about
that
on
August
25th.
This
project
is
also
approaching
completion.
O
If
you
look
at
what
we've
accomplished
from
2018
to
now
in
2022
we've
been
making
a
lot
of
progress
on
phase
two
you'll
remember
in
June,
we
brought
forward
module
one
which
was
an
ordinance
to
do
some
simplifications,
clarifications
and
reorganization
of
the
use
tables
to
make
it
more
usable
and
understandable,
so
that
was
adopted
in
June.
O
We
are
now
in
the
process
of
bringing
through
an
ordinance
on
module,
two
which
is
looking
at
making
changes
to
add
more
mixed
use
in
the
industrial
areas
of
the
city,
as
well
as
doing
some
steps
of
implementation
of
the
East
Boulder
sub-community
plan.
O
So
this
is
scheduled
to
come
to
Council
in
December,
so
the
next
stage
for
use
tables
and
standards
is
module,
three,
which
is
what
we
talked
about
in
August
25th,
which
would
focused
on
mixed
use
and
15-minute
neighborhoods
more
in
a
residential
context
in
a
neighborhood
center
context,
so
we're
anticipating
that
that
would
have
an
ordinance
coming
through
towards
the
end
of
quarter
two
beginning
of
quarter.
O
Three
next
slide,
please
so
the
next
project
and
I
know
it
has
a
lot
of
interest
among
council
members
and
those
in
the
community
is
occupancy
reform.
O
People
will
remember
that,
a
year
ago,
pretty
much
from
today
there
was
the
bedrooms
are
for
people
initiative,
which
was
on
the
ballot
in
Boulder.
That
initiative
did
not
pass,
but
it
was
by
a
close
margin.
We
did
some
Community
surveys
that
showed
that
there
was
strong
Community
interest
to
make
changes
to
occupancy
in
Boulder
to
allow
more
affordable
housing,
housing
options.
O
So
that's
why
it
prompted
Council
to
ask
that
staff
look
at
as
part
of
the
retreat
of
updates
to
the
land
use
code
that
might
be
different
than
what
was
proposed
on
the
ballot,
but
might
accomplish
it
in
different
ways.
So
the
project
did
commence
in
2022
but
as
as
Brad
had
outlined,
there's
been
some
staff
reassignments
that
we've
been
dealing
with.
O
That
has
delayed
the
project,
but
we
do
anticipate
coming
back
to
council
in
the
in
the
end
of
the
first
quarter,
to
bring
some
of
the
options
that
we've
seen
and
also
come
with
a
community
engagement
plan
to
get
council's
feedback
on
that.
We
have
been
looking
at
peer
communities
and
are
putting
together
a
document
we're
in
the
middle
of
the
analysis,
so
we'd
like
to
come
back
with
some
recommendations
at
that
time.
O
C
O
O
In
the
zoning
code,
we
were
requested
by
council
at
The
Retreat
to
look
at
targeted
changes
to
the
land
use
code
that
would
remove
some
of
those
zoning
barriers,
so
particularly
there's
some
zones
of
the
city
that
are
anticipated
for
additional
housing
as
growth
areas
like
the
Boulder
Valley
Regional
Center,
and
some
of
our
neighborhood
centers.
These
tend
to
be
in
the
BR
and
BC
zones
see.
These
are
some
zones
that
have
some
density
limitations
that,
in
some
senses,
are
kind
of
suburban.
O
O
So
with
this
that
that
covers
our
code,
change
things
that
are
on
our
docket
I'm,
going
to
pass
it
back
to
comprehensive
planning,
which
is
Christopher
Johnson
to
talk
about
the
area.
2
planning
Reserve.
K
Great
thank
you
Carl
good
evening
city
council,
as
Carl
mentioned
that
Christopher
Johnson
and
the
comprehensive
planning
senior
manager.
There
are
two
additional
projects
here
on
the
on
the
list
that
we
want
to
discuss
this
evening.
This
first
one
here,
the
area,
3
planning,
Reserve
service
and
study.
K
If
you
recall
that
was
also
discussed
briefly
at
the
study
session
on
September
22nd,
where
we
did
the
initial
review
of
the
Boulder
Junction
a
scope
of
work
at
that
meeting,
Council
expressed
the
desire
to
go
ahead
and
move
ahead
with
the
urban
Services
study
in
order
to
ensure
that
it
was
completed
prior
to
the
next
major
update
to
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
staff
are
prepared
to
proceed
with
the
development
of
that
scope
of
work
for
the
urban
Services
study
early
next
year.
I
will
note
as
a
precursor
and
to
really
help
us
refine.
K
So
that
would
include
areas
one
and
two
that
Capacity
Analysis
will
ultimately
assist
staff
of
reclining,
that
preliminary
scope
identifying
what
consultant
tasks
are
needed
and
also
estimating
our
budget
needs
for
the
project,
and
we
would
anticipate
coming
back
to
Council
in
early
Quarter
Two
of
next
year
to
review
that
Capacity
Analysis
and
also
the
preliminary
scope
of
work,
and
that
would
serve
as
an
interim
milestone
for
this
project
to
continue
to
move
that
forward
as
expeditiously
as
we
can
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
this
last
item
well
not
identified
as
a
priority
project
per
se.
City
leadership
and
staff
have
recognized
that
there's
really
an
unexpected
alignment
of
multiple
planning
efforts
in
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
the
downtown
area.
That
covers
really
many
different
aspects
of
creating
a
vibrant,
successful
Community
core
that
includes
land
use,
Mobility
parks
and
public
spaces,
historic
preservation,
safety
and
economic
Vitality.
K
We
have
already
initiated
work
on
the
streets
as
public
Spaces
Project
that's
evolved
out
of
the
conversations
around
West
Pearl
and,
as
you
know,
we've
already
established
a
process
subcommittee
with
council
members,
Winer
and
Benjamin,
so
that
project
in
particular,
is
is
moving
ahead
very
rapidly,
and
we
anticipate
immediate
sort
of
interim
milestone
for
that.
Piece
of
this
work
is
to
hold
a
study
session
with
Council
in
March
of
next
year
to
review
those
preliminary
recommendations
for
some
spring
and
summer
opportunities
to
activate
certain
locations
downtown.
K
But,
looking
at
this
more
broadly,
there
currently
is
no
formalized
oversight
or
project
management
structure.
That
would
ultimately
monitor
it's
really
a
full
complement
of
projects
and
ensure
close
coordination
among
the
various
departments
that
are
involved,
of
which
there
are
many,
and
rather
than
executing
each
of
these
projects
independently.
K
We
would
encourage
Council
to
consider
the
need
for
this
larger
strategic
framework
that
really
facilitates
collaboration
across
all
of
these
projects,
in
particular
due
to
the
Synergy
of
all
the
project
schedules
landing
at
relatively
the
same
time,
and
really
the
importance
of
this
work
to
to
downtown
really
to
Boulder,
as
as
a
community
as
a
whole.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
pass
it
back
to
Brad
to
walk
through
some
various
options
for
the
priorities
and
sequencing
of
all
of
this
work.
V
Thanks
Christopher
appreciate
that
we're
going
to
come
back
to
this
slide
so
I'm
just
showing
it
as
a
quick
snapshot
right
now.
Ultimately,
it
reflects
the
same
Matrix
that
we
provided
on
page
41
of
92
in
your
packet
to
just
Orient.
You,
though,
very
briefly
to
this.
This
is
a
completion
time
frame.
V
V
Option
one
is
our
recommended
series
of
time
frame,
as
we
indicate
that
you
can
see
that
we
still
achieve
a
meaningful
number
of
items
within
this
coming
year,
really
three
out
of,
depending
on
how
you
wanted
to
characterize
it
three
out
of
four
making
meaningful
interim
steps
along
the
way
that
does
presume
the
targeted
scope
that
we
talked
about
for
occupancy
reform
and
the
Very
thin
sliced
elements
for
Zoning
for
affordable
housing
that
were
in
line
with
what
the
council
Retreat
discussed.
V
And
then
you
can
see
how
this
does
play
out
as
you
go
further.
I
would
also
Point
your
attention
to
page
24
of
92
in
the
overall
packet,
where
these
interim
steps
are
identified
as
one
of
the
columns
in
in
a
bit
more
detail,
and
we
do
have
a
slide
in
our
Hip
Pocket.
If
we
want
to
go
to
that
scenario
with
some
of
that
detail
as
well
next
slide,
please.
V
Carl
gave
a
really
outstanding
overview
of
where
we
are
already
tables
and
standards
and
a
clear
understanding
too,
of
the
occupancy
reform
and
where
we
are
in
those.
But
this
would
contemplate
again.
N
V
That
on
code
on
hold
for
some
period,
while
these
other
items,
which
could
be
described
as
the
recommended
scope,
plus
the
other
items
that
were
identified
by
Lisa
as
possible
thanks
next
slide,
please
option:
three
is
a
requirementization
of
the
project
so
again
reflecting
in
the
more
specific
Matrix,
that's
in
the
packet
various
ways
that
could
be
mixed
and
matched
and
still
maintain
meaningful
Milestones.
As
we
indicated
in
this
scenario,
adus
would
be
put
on
hold
some
of
the
completion
of
site
review
and
use
tables
would
be
put
on
old
and
area.
V
I
will
note
that
part
of
the
reason
for
a
recommended,
a
big
part
of
our
recommended
one-
is
recognizing
that
the
horse,
so
to
speak,
is
really
out
about
barn
door
already
on
site
review
and
use
tables
the
amount
of
resources
and
additional
time
on
the
back
end
later
to
you
know,
lasso
the
horse,
bring
it
back
in
and
close
the
barn
door
and
then
reopen
it.
A
year
later
really
does
represent
some
inefficiencies
in
terms
of
our
staff
user
use
of
our
staff
resources
next
slide,
please.
V
V
Again,
you
can
see
that
in
the
recommended
option,
one
with
the
scope
that
we
described
in
our
presentation
being
able
to
get
many
of
these
items
done
in
2023
not
shown
on
this
slide,
but
the
interim
conditions
for
some
of
the
others
as
well,
and
then
the
trade-offs
that
come
with
a
heavy
emphasis
on
all
aspects
of
adus.
C
C
V
Items
further
down
the
list
briefly
on
the
next
slide,
if
I
may,
these
are
the
questions
we
presented
at
the
beginning,
upon
reflection,
I
I
suspect,
we'll
of
course
have
discussion
around
this.
It
may
be
easiest
upon
reflection
to
answer
number
two
and
I
can
imagine
Council
answering
number
one
and
three
kind
of
in
tandem,
but
of
course,
we'll
we'll
follow
council's
lead
in
that
regard.
V
If
we
could
go
back
one
slide
and
maybe
have
that
as
a
reference
line
for
the
discussion
that
completes
our
presentation
at
this
time,
council
member
friend
mayor
for
Tim,
Fenn
and
happy
to
answer
your
questions.
B
Thanks
so
much
Brad
and
everyone
else
who
contributed
to
that
presentation.
So
first
we'll
start
with
questions
that
we
have
for
staff
to
clarify,
and
then
we
will
go
into
discussion
and
answering
staff's
questions.
So
questions
I,
see
Junie,
then
Bob
then
Tara
Junior
you're
out,
but
you
are
still
muted.
Y
I
mean
I
notice
in
the
memo
I
mentioned
how
long
Bolder
we've
been
doing
adus
almost
before
I
was
born,
but
my
question
is
whether
it
matters
if
the
properties
and
a
flood
Zone,
which
a
lot
of
Boulder
is
so
whether
removing
the
saturation
limit
for
adus
will
cause
any
type
of
safety
concerns
in
the
future.
W
Y
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
I
have
another
question
about
the
or
maybe
that
sounds
more
like
a
comment.
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
when
I
was
delivering
a
lot
of
literature
for
for
voting.
This
election
I
end
up
going
to
a
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
walking
around,
especially
in
the
Cosgrove
area.
I
was
very
surprised
to
see
some
of
the
sizes
of
the
adus.
Y
Y
But
my
question
is
I.
Suppose
it's
not
one
or
the
other,
but
I'm
wondering
instead
of
limiting
or
removing
the
saturation
limits.
What
is
what
is
your
department
doing
in
allowing
more
duplexes
and
triplexes
instead
of
creating
these
adus,
which
I
was
very
surprised,
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
the
sizes
and
yeah
I
I
I
was
just
surprised
by
that
when
I
was
walking
around
that
neighborhood
and
I
heard
from
from
you
know
a
few
community
members
on
some
of
the
challenges
of
having
these
adus
in
these
neighborhoods.
V
Councilmember
Joseph,
maybe
I,
can
take
a
first
stab
at
it
and
then
hand
it
off
to
Lisa
and
Carl
I.
Think
this
gets
to
the
bigger
question
of
adding
my
right
units
on
individual
Lots.
We
would
really
see
that
under
the
category
of
Zoning
for
affordability,
expanded
so
beyond
the
scope
that
we
presented
this
evening,
it's
a
very
good
question
and
thanks
for
for
asking
that
it
does
get
into
issues
of
carrying
capacity
of
the
infrastructure,
existing
property
rights,
a
relationship
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
items
like
that.
O
Yeah
I
can
talk
about
it.
Some
council
members
might
remember
the
the
large
homes
and
lots
project
which
kind
of
went
down
that
same
road
of
exploring
whether
areas
that
typically
don't
have
duplexes
or
triplexes.
Could
we
could
introduce
those
into
those
areas?
We
did
come
forward
with
an
ordinance
to
make
some
changes,
but
it
does
present
some
challenges
when
it
comes
to
consistency
with
the
land.
You
with
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan.
O
There
are
land
use,
designations
that
have
specific
density
limits,
so
in
order
for
us
to
change,
the
zoning
like
the
land
use
would
have
to
change
to
support
that.
So
we
found
that
you
know
adding
duplexes
and
triplexes
in
certain
areas
of
town.
They
would
have
to
have
very
large
lot
sizes
to
even
have
those
types
of
housing
types
unless
the
zoning
were
were
changed
and
the
land
use
before
that
and
and
like
Brad
said
there,
there
were
some
infrastructural
things
that
came
up
in
that
analysis
as
well.
O
I
mean
areas
that
are
typically
more
rural,
residential
or
residential
estate
in
character
were
built
with
infrastructure
meant
to
support
single-family
homes.
There
would
have
to
be
some
sort
of
analysis
in
upzoning
those
areas
whether
the
infrastructure
is
available
or
sufficient
to
support
that
additional
density.
O
Y
Thank
you
for
that.
I
have
one
last
question,
question
Rachel,
thank
you,
and
this
is
more
on
the
line
of
having
conversation
with
Community
as
well,
and
that's
one
question
because
we're
talking
about
adus
and
we're
talking
about
access
to
Affordable,
more
affordable
units,
housing
units
and
my
question:
how
do
you
ensure
that
that
adus
being
used
for
affordable
housing?
Y
Is
there
a
process,
or
do
we
just
go
on
the?
What's
the
word?
We
just
hope
that
you
know
once
it's
created
that
this
person
will
just
do
the
right
thing
and
rent
it
for
affordable
housing.
V
We
do
have
representatives
from
HHS
here
and
I
believe
and
I've
gone
out
on
a
limb.
This
is
a
new
question
for
me,
but
I
believe
that
those
deed
restricted
or
are
subject
to
the
same
program
that
we
do
for
others,
but
I
will
defer
to
HHS
or
other
staff.
W
Hey
Kurt
can
add
more
from
hhf's,
but
when
we
approve
a
affordable
Adu
that
goes
into
at
document,
a
legal
document
called
the
Declaration
of
use,
that's
recorded
with
the
property,
and
so
they
sign
something
that
says
I'm
keeping
this
at
the
affordable
limit
every
year.
The
city
sets
the
maximum
rent
table
for
affordable,
adus,
so
I
think
a
one
bedroom's
about
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
I
think
if
I
remember
correctly
right
now
for
this
year,
and
so
they
are
swearing
to
keep
it
at
that.
And
then
there
are
some
code.
A
Y
Well,
thank
you
for
that.
This
is.
This
is
good
to
hear
that
there's
a
process
whether
that's
upheld,
that's
different
I
have
heard-
or
at
least
from
my
conversation
with
Community,
where
adus
are
created
and
the
owner
of
the
property
moved
into
the
Adu
and
then
rent
their
main
housing.
So
again
that
takes
that
Adu
out
of
the
market,
although
it
seems
that
we've
created
affordable
housing
for
other
people
to
move
into,
but
not
necessarily
so.
U
Well,
thanks
Jenny,
that
was
a
nice
tie
up
to
some
questions.
I
had
I
want
to
talk
about
AV
use
as
well
So
Lisa.
Let's
continue
that
thread
that
you
started
to
go
down
with
the
Declaration
of
use.
So
it's
I,
remember
and
Aaron
will
remember
this
too
from
2018.
When
we
put
this
all
together,
it
liberalized
the
Adu
rules
that
we
really
have
two
flavors
of
adus
right.
We
have
regular
or
market
rate
adus
we're
the
owner
can
charge
whatever
they
want.
U
Whatever
the
market
will
bear,
then
we
have
the
separate
type
which
I
think
we're
calling
affordable
Aid
to
use
with
the
Declaration
of
use
is
that
is
that
right,
Lisa,
that's
correct
great
great
and
as
you,
you
flashed
up
on
a
slide.
Really
quick,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
got
this
right
for
the
affordable,
adus,
the
ones
where
there's
a
declaration
of
use
and
the
and
the
owner
is
swearing
that
they're
keeping
the
rents
below
a
certain
level.
U
I
think
that
level
is
is
that
which
would
be
affordable
to
somebody
who
makes
ad
or
less
than
75
of
the
area.
Median
income
do
I.
Have
that
right
right
and
the
reason
that
or
the
trade-off
I'll
say,
because
rent
control,
of
course
is
not
allowed
in
Colorado,
and
so
we
have
to
kind
of
contractually
get
to
it,
which
sounds
like
we're
doing
it
and
I.
U
Think
I
saw
on
your
slide
that
about
a
third
of
the
280
us
that
have
been
created
since
we
liberalized
the
rules
four
years
ago
about
a
third
of
them
or
through
the
owners,
opted
for
this
affordable,
Adu
and
then
two-thirds
went
with
market
rate.
Is
that
right,
roughly
yeah?.
U
Yeah,
okay,
good
good
and-
and
so
the
the
quid
pro
quo,
then
that
we
do
with
a
property
owner
in
order
to
entice
them
to
to
sign
this
declaration
of
use
and
swear
that
they're
only
going
to
charge
rent
up
to
the
75
Ami
level
is
I.
Think
we
give
we
give
them
a
couple
of
of
Graces
or
a
couple
opportunities
one
is:
is
we
don't
require
off
street
parking?
Is
that
right
for
for
the
affordable,
a
use,
correct
and
the
other
I
think
there's
a
maybe
a
size,
differential,
I
think
we've.
W
For
detached
data
use,
the
typical
limit
for
market
rate
is
550
square
feet
for
affordable
it's
800
square
feet
and
for
attached.
It's
a
difference
of
a
third
of
the
structure
and
a
half
of
a
structure.
U
Right
so
it
sounds
like
that:
enticement's
kind
of
working
if
a
third
of
the
people
are
kind
of
opting
and
some
of
them
may
have
to
because
they
maybe
they
can't
provide
parking.
But
it
sounds
like
that.
Enticement's
kind
of
working
I
remember
back
in
2018.
We
put
this
together
and
we
had
no
idea
if
anyone
would
go
down
the
affordable
route
and
we
might
just
get
crickets.
But
it
sounds
like
at
least
a
third
of
the
200
are
going
down.
The
affordable
path
is
that
right,
yeah
yeah.
W
I
agree
with
that
characterization.
We
also
asked
that
question
in
the
survey
of
Adu
owners
to
try
to
understand
why
and
that's
what
I
was
saying.
40
said
they
did
it
to
reduce
the
parking
requirement.
The
next
most
common,
though,
was
34,
said
that
they
were
doing
it
just
to
provide
affordable
housing
so
which.
U
One
would
be
kind
of
focused
on
those
areas
that
staff
had
recommended
and
the
other
would
be
an
expanded
scope,
which
I
think
was
your
option
two,
which
could
include
parking
and
size
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
that
would
take
longer,
understandably,
if
we
were
to
eliminate
parking
for
all
adus
a
parking
requirement
for
all
adus
and
and
it
had
both
market
rate
and
affordable
adus
have
the
same
size
requirements.
What
would
be
the
reason
other
than
maybe
the
goodness
of
someone's
heart
why
they
would
go
down?
U
W
W
Technically,
affordable,
yes,
and
one
other
part
of
the
survey
that
we
implemented
was
asking
what
the
rents
are,
that
people
are
charging
and
we're
finding
that
even
the
market
rate
rents.
Are
you
know
under
that
affordable
limit
too?
So
that's
an
interesting
conclusion
that
we
came
to
as
well
from.
U
The
service
yeah
yeah,
have
you
guys,
tried
to
forecast
out
a
few
years
to
see
what
the
trends
might
be.
In
other
words,
if
some
of
the
market
rate
ones
are
actually
currently
just
they're
affordable,
but
there's
no,
as
Jimmy
pointed
out,
there's
no
guarantee
that
they
would
be
affordable
in
the
future.
If
the
market
kind
of
Rises
they
could
charge
whatever
they
wanted
to.
If
they
didn't
have
this
declaration
of
use
of
that
right.
B
You
I'm
gonna
colloquate
on
that.
If
I
may,
okay
I
just
you
know,
I'd
like
to
use
that
word
with
you.
So
just
following
up
on
Bob's
question,
it
made
me
wonder
if
we
were
to
remove
the
the
parking
minimums
and
make
units
larger
for
adus
such
that
say
one
that's
affordable.
Now,
because
it
it
has
the
the
larger
amount
and
fewer
parking.
Would
they
then
like
Legacy
out
of
that
program
or
would
they
like?
Could
they
start
then
renting
for
non-affordable?
Have
we
thought
about
that?
W
B
Okay,
like
if
we,
if
we
just
made
it,
you
know
by
right,
not
part
of
the
affordable
program,
you
know
1200
and
one
or
zero
parking
spots.
I
think
we
would
have
to
maybe
I'd
be
very
curious
to
know
it
at
a
future
update
what
what
the
impacts
are,
what
we
could
maybe
offer
people
you
would
hate
to
see
somebody
get
locked
into
something.
You
know
that
was
a
previous
Incarnation,
that's
now
easier
under
future
rules,
and
so
yeah
I'd
just
be
curious.
What's
happening
to
there
thanks
Tara.
G
G
Rachel,
so
my
first
question
is
going
to
be:
we
had
some
very
interesting
letters
from
the
neighborhood
associations,
particularly
one
from
Martin
Acres.
So
tell
me:
is
it
possible
to
exempt
certain
neighborhoods,
perhaps
from
I,
think
saturation
limits
I
agree
that
they
should
be
removed,
but
I
am
worried
also
about
the
neighborhoods
that
are
adjacent
to
CU,
East,
Aurora
and
gas.
Grove
where
you
know,
as
Juni
said
everything
the
houses
are
way
smaller
and
closer
together.
Also,
Martin
acres
is
like
that
really
small
houses
and
smaller
Lots,
and
also,
of
course,
the
hill.
G
W
We
also
have
many
features
of
the
land
use
code
that
differ
based
on
lot
size
or
things
like
that
and
make
sure
that
development
nearby
is
compatible,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
assurances
that
would
mitigate
any
of
those
potential
impacts
and
also
be
kind
of
tailored
to
whatever
the
specific
characteristics
of
those
lots
within
those
neighborhoods
might
be.
Okay,.
G
And
the
second
question
I
think
some
community
members
might
ask,
is
we
there
was
notes
in
our
packet
about
hype
modifications?
Can
you
go
into
the
details
of
what
exactly
that
means.
W
Yeah,
so
we
it's
actually
we've
had
a
couple
recent
applications
where
somebody
is
attempting
to
put
an
Adu
in
an
existing
structure.
So
the
structure
is
already
there,
but
it
happens
to
be
over
25
feet
of
which
is
our
height
limit
and
there's
not
currently
a
variance
option
that
would
allow
you
to
modify
past
25
feet.
So
in
the
interest
of
balancing
you
know,
adaptive
reuse
of
an
existing
structure.
W
Often
if
it's
an
existing
structure,
it's
going
to
have
less
of
an
impact
on
neighbors,
because
it's
already
been
there
and
we
do
have
variance
options
in
an
established
public
process
for
something
like
that.
So
just
providing
that
option
to
allow
for
height
modifications
for
existing
structures
is
something
that
was
raised
so.
G
G
Right
well,
that's
option
one
option
two
and
option
three,
which
sounded
like
we
used
to
go
eat
in
a
Chinese
restaurant
very
long
time
ago,
back
in
the
day,
and
we
picked
from
different
menus,
but
are
those
menus
that
you
gave
us?
G
We
have
to
use
one
of
those
three,
for
instance,
I
am
particularly
interested
in
the
Civic
area,
because
so
many
things
are
happening
right
now.
The
the
you
know
to
do
everything
at
the
same
time,
besides
being
consistent
and
organized
and
having
economies
of
scale.
I
didn't
see
that
in
all
of
the
different
options,
is
there
possible
way
to
do
ads
and
also
do
the
Civic
area
downtown
in
the
Q3
sooner
rather
than
later.
So?
Can
we
pick
and
choose
from
these
menus
or
how
can
we,
let's
say?
G
V
G
V
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question,
councilman
Weiner,
and,
to
your
first
basic
question
of,
do
you
have
to
pick
one
of
these?
Three?
Absolutely
not.
You
know,
mixing
and
matching
using
this
as
kind
of
the
buffet
and
picking
bits
and
pieces,
but
we
did
want
to
at
least
frame
up
the
the
issues
and
help
explain
try
to
explain
the
trade-offs
we
can
iterate
on
that,
and
so
to
your
specific
question
of,
could
we
do
the
Civic
area
downtown,
which
is
really
a
whole?
V
V
Another
would
be
to
do
it
immediately,
but
then
other
things
would
need
to
drop
off
and
we'd
have
to
talk
about
which
of
those
to
do
or
have
a
complete
ramp
up
to
some
additional
resources
for
that
that
would
just
in
Practical
terms,
probably
take
three
to
six
months.
V
The
reason
we
put
it
in
this
whole
mix
of
discussion,
because
it
is
a
little
bit
of
the
outlier
from
the
others
is
because
it
just
is-
is
an
emerging
set
of
issues
that
comes
forward,
but
this
one,
as
you
know,
from
from
first
option
a
column
really
is
on
no
time
frame.
At
this
point,
I
don't
know
if
that
helps,
answer
your
question
or
makes
it
more
accomplished.
B
Z
Either
way
I
appreciate
it,
Mark
I
did
take
my
hand
down
and
then
put
it
back
up
again
so
I'm
causing
chaos
over
here.
Like
always,
let's
see
I
guess
I'd
be
happy
to
go
for
it.
So
first
I
want
to
check
in
Click
Carl.
Are
you
you're
doing
plans,
reviews
and
heading
up
three
different
sections
here?
Z
Do
we
have
Physicians
approved
to
help
you
I
feel
I'm
concerned?
This
seems
like
a
lot.
V
N
Yeah
I'd
be
happy
to,
and
I
too
am
very
concerned
for
Carl
and
so
I
appreciate
that
we're
in
the
throes
of
filling
some
key
positions.
Right
now,
we've
made
some
key
hires
very
recently
that
are
gonna
start
taking
some
of
these
pressures
off
of
our
staff
that
are
kind
of
doing
dual
Duty
right
now.
So
help
is
on
the
way.
Z
V
C
V
Know
deciding
now
is
probably
a
matter
of
discussion
and
you
do
have
the
check-in
a
month
or
two
later
as
well,
that
right
now,
the
component
parts
of
that
that
we
listed
only
a
couple
of
them
already
on
any
kind
of
start
time
frame.
The
rest
of
them
are
all
at
the
fox.
V
So
it
would
be
it's
a
bigger
discussion
about
whether
Council
wants
to
find
a
way
to
prioritize
all
of
those
and
find
a
way
to
kind
of
get
them
ramped
up
in
a
in
a
similar
starting
manner
for
a
umbrella
kind
of
approach.
V
But
that
really
is
a
little
bit
of
an
outlier
on
the
side.
Okay,.
Z
V
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
do
and
the
rest
of
the
staff
girls
in
KJ
just
going
down
the
list.
That's
on
the
screen
right
now
from
The
Matrix
Adu
is
handled
by
our
policy
group
and
development
review.
Older
Junction,
by
comprehensive
planning
site
review
by
the
policy
group
use
PayPal
by
policy
group
occupancy
reformed
by
the
policy
group
Zoning
for
affordability
is
the
policy
group
period.
V
Three
is
part
of
comprehensive
planning
and
Civic
areas
really
hard
to
characterize
because
it's
involving
transportation
and
parks
and
others,
but
would
be
heavily
most
heavily
involved
by
the
Bible.
Okay.
Z
Thank
you
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
questions.
I
had
that
kind
of
came
up
around
land
use
and
the
comprehensive
plan
I
you
guys
referenced
that
large
lot
study.
Z
Oh,
but
it
seems
like
not
all
because
it's
sort
of
related
to
juni's
question
about
duplexes
or
additional
units
versus
adus
and
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
there.
So.
Z
The
large
lots
are
in
our
lowest
density
zone
right
under
our
comprehensive
sort
of
number
of
dwell
units
per
acre
other
residential
zones.
So
they
only
allow
two
units
per
acre
and
other
like
like
rl1,
which
is
our
largest
land
use
area,
allows
up
to
six
dwelling
units
per
acre.
Z
Is
it
possible
that
we
might
be
able
to
make
some
change
and
sorry?
My
understanding
is
also
that
the
comprehensive
plan
wants
these
restrictions
are
applied
holistically
and
not
on
a
per
lot
basis,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
there
might
be
some
flexibility
for
doing
duplexes
or
something
like
that.
Potentially
in
some
zones,
but
maybe
not
all
zones.
Is
that
a
fair
assessment
if.
O
O
They
allow
two
to
six
dwelling
units
per
acre,
but
they
do
it
differently.
The
The
rl1
Zone
only
permits
single-family
homes
and
has
a
minimum
lot
area
and
rl2
allows
all
different
types
of
housing
types
but
uses
open
space.
So
in
rl2
zones
you'll
actually
see
little
apartment,
buildings
or
duplexes
triplexes,
even
though
it's
low
density,
but
there,
even
though
their
their
unit
types
are
different.
Z
Good
to
know
the
other
question
I
had
related
to
that
was,
you
were
talking
about
utilities
and
utility
capacity
and
I
was
just
curious
because
a
lot
of
other
communities
have
done.
You
know
made
these
kinds
of
changes
and
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
around.
Z
You
know,
Minneapolis,
having
significant
issues
with
their
utility
capacity,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering.
Is
this
something
that
other
communities
were
just
extra
prepared
for
or
how?
How
is
it
that
other
communities
are
able
to
manage
kind
of
making
some
of
these
changes
with
their
existing
utility
infrastructure
or
or
is
this
a
problem
that
I'm
just
unaware
of.
O
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
I
have
a
good
answer
for
that
I
mean.
Obviously
we
consulted
with
our
own.
You
know
engineering
and
Public
Works
staff,
and
they
know
the
utilities
that
exist
throughout
the
city.
They
know
the
areas
where
it
might
have
capacity
and
May
and
other
areas
that
don't
I
I
can't
really
speak
for
other
communities,
whether
they
did
that
analysis
at
all.
But
it's
something
that
we
have
to
defer
to
our
engineering
staff
on.
B
Thank
you,
or
do
you
mind
if
I
calculate
on
the
large
Lots
question,
please
so
Carl
it
Peaks.
My
curiosity
too,
and
you
may
recall
we
we
overlapped
I,
was
in
like
a
work
group
and.
C
B
I'd
forgotten
all
about
large
Lots
until
today,
but
my
question
is
as
I
recall
in
2018
and
2019,
we
got
all
the
way
up.
I
mean
I,
wasn't
on
council
at
the
time,
but
as
a
city,
we
got
all
the
way
up
to
our
first
reading,
like
there
was
a
a
packet
with
a
proposed
ordinance
and
there
was
a
ton
of
community
engagement
so
and
I
think
the
proposal
was
maybe
for
duplexing
in
our
e
and
rl1
and
rl2.
Is
that
or.
O
No,
it
was,
it
was
actually,
it
was
focused
on
RR
and
R.
That's.
B
What
I
meant
yep
and
NRE
right?
It's
like
it
was
the
okay
sorry,
my
my
computer,
just
blanked
there
for
a
minute.
So
anyhow,
when
we
got
there
like
to
Lauren's
point
of
of
pairing
capacities
and
and
changes,
how
did
you?
How
did
we
handle
that
was
it?
Is
it
a
different
conversation
because
it
was
the
RR
and
re
and
those
are
didn't?
Have
the
issues
that
we're
talking
about
other
places.
O
The
thing
about
the
the
ordinance
that
was
brought
forward
is
it
didn't,
require
a
Boulder,
Valley
Conference
of
plan
change,
because
the
change
still
was
consistent
with
the
underlying
land
use,
so
it
allowed
it
changed.
It
proposed
to
change
the
code
to
allow
duplexes
and
triplexes,
but
it
did
work
still
required
the
lot
area
necessary
to
achieve
those
units
so
on
a
15,
000
square
foot
re
lot.
O
If
they
wanted
to
do
a
duplex,
they'd
have
to
have
30
000
square
feet
of
lot
area,
so
we
we
also,
but
one
thing
we
we
did
propose
as
an
alternative.
Was
that
because
the
re
zone
is
the
same
land
use
designation
as
rl1
and
rl2,
which
allows
two
to
six
dwelling
units
per
acre
there
could
have.
Council
could
have
advised
to
change
the
ordinance
to
allow
basically
a
doubling
of
the
density
in
re
without
changing
the
land
use,
designation.
B
Right
is
it
your
recollection,
though,
that
that
that
the
20
in
September,
you
know
right
before
an
election
in
2019
that
that
Council
said
something
like
let
the
next
Council
pick
it
up,
because
you
know
we're
about
to
change
guard.
Is
that
I
mean
didn't,
get
voted
on
and
rejected
right?
It
just
got
punted
yeah.
O
R
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
sort
of
Jump
Around
out
of
order.
You
had
referenced
I
plan,
one
outcome,
Report
with
respect
to
Boulder
Junction.
When
are
we
likely
to
see
that.
X
So
the
substantial
completion
report
is
pretty
much
like
an
analysis
of
looking
at
what
did
the
transit
Village
area
plan
recommend
and
now
that
it's
been
15
years
later
and
we've
had
developments
and
it's
kind
of
reaching
completion.
What
is
actually
implemented
today,
so
it'll
do
a
little
bit
of
a
comparison
of
what's
in
the
plan
and
what
was
the
actual
outcome
today
and
provide
that
information
as
well.
R
X
Yes,
I
think
with
the
substantial
completion
report
our
team
talked
about
this
a
little
bit.
It
might
be
a
little
bit
more
factual
of
what's
there
today,
but
the
the
phase
two
project,
Boulder
Junction
phase.
Two-
would
start
with
that
conversation
of
in
you
know,
kind
of
beginning
Community
engagement
with
that
conversation
of
what's
working
well
or
not
in
Phase
One,
and
use
that
to
kind
of
inform
a
potential
plan
Amendment
and
the
implementation
strategy
as
well.
R
Good
thanks.
My
next
question
is
with
respect
to
the
Civic
area.
How
does
the
Civic
area
master
plan
phase?
Two
implementation
differ
from
the
Pearl
Street
50-year
refresh.
What?
Where
do
they
overlap
or
not
overlap.
K
The
call
or
not,
but
that
would
be
wonderful
if
she's
available
to
check
in
but
as
I
understand
the
Civic
area
master
plan
phase.
Two
implementation
is
specific
to
to
the
park
itself
in
the
area
around
the
Band
Shell
The,
Atrium,
building
the
east
book
end
and
that
that
sort
of
area
the
Pearl
Street
refresh,
is,
as
you
would
expect,
is
specific
Ally
focused
on
Pearl
Street
itself.
K
R
Thanks
now,
I'm
going
to
jump
to
adus,
do
we
Track
adus
by
neighborhood,
when
CU
adjacent
neighborhoods
come
to
us
and
say
please
be
cautious
of
what
you're
doing
in
our
neighborhood,
because
it's
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact?
Do
we
do?
We
have
the
data
that
says
you
might
be
right
or
you
know,
you're
you're
off
base
you're,
not
suffering
a
disparate
impact.
R
That
would
be
very
helpful
and
I
I
noticed
in
looking
at
the
map
that
there
was
a
a
almost
no
adus
between
Arapahoe
and
Jay
Road
East
of
28th.
Is
there
a
particular
reason
for
that
I
mean?
Is
it
destruct
me.
C
W
R
Okay
and
one
of
the
complaints
we
got
on
adus
from
neighborhood
letters
was
to
caution
us
about
the
transformation
of
neighborhoods
from
residential
neighborhoods
to
investor-owned
neighborhoods
exclusively,
and
are
we
looking
at
that
in
terms
of
how
we're
approaching
the
Adu
issue
and
and
where
adus
are
going
to
be
sprouting
up
and
obviously
the
four
CU
adjacent
neighborhoods
are
probably
the
ones
that
come
most
to
mind?
W
So
an
owner
has
to
live
on
site
in
order
to
have
an
Adu,
and
we
do
confirm
that
when
the
Adu
is
applied
for
and
as
well
when
the
rental
license
is
applied,
for
there
are
some
like
clarifications.
That
would
be
helpful
in
the
code
language
I
know,
there's
been
some
issues
raised
with
people
that
have
maybe
LLCs
that
own
the
property,
so
there's
opportunities
to
clarify
that.
However,
the
owner
occupancy
requirement,
we're
pretty
confident
ensures
that
there's
a
lot
an
owner
living
on
all
of
these
sites,
and
it's
not
an
investor
property.
Thank.
R
You
and
my
last
question
is
with
respect
to
occupancy
limits
which
I
I
think
we're
we're
due
for
that
conversation,
and
we
ought
to
have
it,
but
for
staff.
To
what
extent
are
your
deliberations
informed
by
the
fact
that
we
had
a
referendum
on
occupancy
just
last
year
and
the
community
was
was
not
supportive?
That
doesn't
mean
you
can't
have
changes
to
occupancy
limits,
but
I
I
would
think
that
you
would
be
keeping
that
in
mind
as
you
move
forward
yeah.
This
is
not
the
case.
V
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question
and
Alice
crawling
Charles
to
maybe
jump
in
as
well,
but
I
would
say
we're
very
mindful
of
that
voting
and
respectful
of
it.
We
do
find
it
interesting
that
some
of
the
feedback-
that's
surveying,
still
points
towards
an
interest
around
that
and
ultimately
just
based
on
Council
inquiry
over
the
last
year
and
such
we
know
that
that's
a
topic
that
you
all
would
like
to
explore.
More.
R
What's
that
again,
I,
don't
dispute
that
I'm
I'm
just
saying
that
you're,
correct
47
of
the
people
voted
in
favor
of
changing
occupancy
limits,
but
53
percent
did
not
and
I
think
it.
It
doesn't
mean
you
can't
have
changes
to
occupancy
limits.
It
just
means
that
there
ought
to
be
some
I
think
some
level
of
caution
about
how
you
do
it.
B
So
back
to
maybe
Carl
on
the
large
Lots,
which
has
piqued
my
interest
today,
if
we
wanted
to
move
forward
with
some
of
the
large
Lots
work
that
came
so
close
to
the
Finish
Line,
and
that
is
in
keeping
with
some
of
the
missing
metal
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
what
it
you
know,
would
we
move
into
like
a
consult
stage
of
Engagement
or
like
how
could
we
pick
that
up
where
we
left
it
off
and
dusted
off?
What
would
that
look
like.
O
Well,
I
think
again:
we'd
have
to
see
you
know
what
exactly
the
scope
of
the
project
would
be
and
where
the
changes
would
occur
and
who
we
would
need
to
reach
out
to
I
think
consult.
You
know
probably
makes
sense
if
we're
not
going
drastic
in
a
drastically
different
direction,
but
it
has
been.
You
know
three
years,
you
know
things
have
changed
or
people
might
have
different
opinions
or
people
might
have
moved
or
moved
in
you
know
so
we'd
have
to
you
know,
spark
up
the
Outreach
again.
O
Obviously
this
is
kind
of
a
a
new
Factor
being
put
on
to
the
work
program.
So
we'd
have
to
also
look
at
other
code
change
projects
and
what
would
have
to
slow
down
or
stop
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
that.
B
Okay,
but
if
we
were
to
take
like
you
know,
not
expand
it
at
all
but
contract
it
just
you
know,
say
only
you
know:
X
Y
or
Z
portion
of
this
code
that
was
brought
up
as
interesting
to
this
Council
or
you
know,
makes
sense
because
it
was
it
was
so
thoroughly
worked
over
three
years
ago.
Is
that
is
that
a
feasible
thing
that
we
could?
You
know
we
have
an
ordinance?
That's
already
done.
I.
O
Mean
it
certainly
makes
it
I
mean
a
little
bit
easier
for
us
to
pick
pick
it
up
again.
I
think
you
know,
we've
already
spent
a
lot
of
time,
drafting
an
ordinance
you
know
and
looking
at
the
code,
we
would
have
some
of
those
changes
already
ready.
We
might
still
have
to
you
know,
tweak
them
for
a
while
and
think
about
any
unintended
consequences,
and
but
it
certainly
would
be
easier.
Not
some
of
that
work
has
been
done.
B
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
Tara.
G
Just
a
real
quick
question
and
Brad
and
everyone
you're
so
wonderful
but
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
to
speak
in
East
Coast,
not
Midwest,
language
So.
When
you
say
we've
had
we've
done,
80
percent,
are
you
saying
we
don't
care
if
you
switch
it
around
or
are
you
saying
it
would
really
aggravate
us?
Can
you
really
be
so
you
had
a
few
different
things
where
you
said:
we've
done
almost
everything,
but
if
you
want
us
to
switch
we'll
switch,
how
should
we
read
that?
Would
you
rather
not
switch?
Do
you
not
really
care.
V
I
I
will
do
my
best
to
remember
my
time
in
school
in
New
York
to
answer
for
the
site,
the
criteria
and
the
use
table.
In
particular,
we
are
very
far
out
out
in
towards
the
Finish
Line
on
that
it
would
very
much
be
our
preference
to
get
that
done
because
of
the
loss
of
efficiency
that
we
would
have
in
needing
to
pick
that
up
six
months,
12
months,
18
months
down
the
road
we
also
do
have
citizen
groups
and
boards
and
such
that
are
teed
up
and
engaged.
V
So
we
would
lose
a
lot
of
momentum
on
that
for
the
other
things,
as
we
demonstrated
in
the
one
memo
Matrix
and
maybe
Lisa
or
whoever
has
the
slides
can
get
that
hit
pocket
slide
that
we
have
with
that
shown
prepared
for
the
other
ones.
There
would
be
the
trade-offs,
so
I
appreciate
Carl's
answer,
for
example,
regarding
Reviving
the
large
lot
ordinance.
C
V
On
what
I've
learned
very
recently,
I
agree
that
that
would
be
a
fairly
surgical
thing,
but
I
think
what
he's
alluding
to
is.
We
would
still
have
to
prepare
that
we
would
still
have
to
bet
it
at
some
minimum
level
and
there
would
probably
not
probably
there
would
need
to
be
a
trade-off,
then
on
call
it
three
months
of
timing
on
one
of
the
other
items
on
here.
V
This
slide
is
really
just
an
expanded
version
of
what
was
in
your
memo
as
well,
but
but
really
highlighting
those
inner
Milestones
with
the
recommendation,
which
again
we're
happy
to
deviate
from,
but
it's
probably
this
finer
grain
level
of
detail
than
that.
We
would
would
need
to
talk
about
kind
of
trading
out
work
efforts.
V
C
B
Thanks
Tara,
okay,
I
think
that
we
go
into
discussion
now
and
what
I
would
propose
if
we
are
okay
with
it
is
discussing
just
staff
question
number
one
first
on
adus
is
that,
like
I,
think
we're
going
to
get
to
the
Adu
discussion
that
kind
of
thumbs
up
on
that
as
a
right?
B
Okay,
Lauren
was
your
hand
up
on
ideas,
okay,
so
the
the
the
question
from
staff
and
then
we'll
welcome
any
discussion
on
it
is:
does
council
approval,
staffs,
propose,
scope
and
engagement
level
for
the
updates
to
Adu
project
or
have
any
questions
about
the
evaluation,
so
would
love
to
hear.
U
Probably
gather
for
my
question
some
trepidation
about
going
down
the
path
of
waiving
parking
for
all
adus,
because
I'm
afraid
we
would
lose
the
affordability
declaration
that
we
talked
about.
That
could
be
done
in
a
phase
two
as
Lauren
suggested
or
hotline.
You
know
six
months
or
a
year
from
now.
R
Some
degree
of
examination
as
to
whether
we
will
lose
the
affordability
component
if
we
simply
make
all
adus
the
same
and
I
would
I
would
hope.
We
would
consider
seriously
keeping
some
distinction
in
size
and
parking
requirements
between
affordable,
adus
and
regular
adus.
R
Z
Thanks,
let's
see
I
similarly
support
the
scope
that
staff
has
laid
out.
Z
I
would
like
to
make
the
argument
for
doing
a
phase
two
or
keeping
a
phase,
two
kind
of
on
the
books
or
in
the
plans
for
the
future,
just
because
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
work
staff
has
done
and
that
we've
heard
from
boards
and
commissions
has
been
really
valuable
feedback
and
I
think
that
keeping
in
mind
sort
of
what
these
next
steps
might
be
and
having
that
on
the
back
burner,
ready
for
if
the
next
Council
decides
to
take
that
up.
Z
B
Don't
go
anywhere:
Lauren
folkerts,
okay,
Erin.
T
Yeah
I'm
going
to
agree
with
with
my
colleagues
and
just
add
a
little
bit
more.
The
so
I
think
you
are
on
the
right
track.
I
appreciate
the
analysis
that
you
did
about
what
you
thought
would
be
the
most
impactful
kind
of
that
most
do
implementable
and
impactful
and
I
thought
that
was
really
compelling.
So
you
you
got
my
buy-in
because
I
thought
the
analysis
was
was
really
good,
even
though
it
didn't
did
include.
T
You
know
one
of
the
options
that
that
I
put
in
the
list
originally
but
but
great
arguments
there
and
then
I'll
just
agree
with
Lauren
about
that
phase.
Two
keeping
that
on
the
on
the
books
as
well.
I
I
may
well
not
be
on
that
Council,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
keep
it
there
and
but
to
not
I
thought
you
had
a
good
set
of
things,
but
also
Lauren
suggest
some
additional
things
that
are
I,
think
worthy
of
consideration.
T
So
I
don't
think
we
should
talk
about
exactly
what
that
phase
two
should
consist
of,
but
just
to
make
the
point
that
it's
probably
worth
once
future
Council
gets
to
it.
Sort
of
checking
in
on
what
the
scope
of
that
would
be
because
you
might
want
to
open
the
funnel
out
a
little
bit
wider
for
a
bigger
initial
one.
And
if
that
that
comes
thanks.
B
Thanks
very
much
thanks,
Aaron
Tara,
then
I'll
go.
G
I
agree
with
what
everybody
said
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
Civic
area
and
I'm
just
going
to
ask
that
we
remain
nimble
because
it
is
a
different
department,
as
Lauren
brought
out
there.
There
are
different
parts
of
the
planning
department
which
she
knew,
but
I
didn't
know,
so
being
that
the
Civic
area
is
a
different
than
what
was
the
process
committee
I
believe
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
be
ready
and
prepared
should
the
rest
should
parks
and
Community
Vitality.
G
Any
other
departments
be
ready
to
go
with
the
Civic
Center
and
especially
in
light
of
the
hotel
that
we
are
also
Nimble
and
ready
and
able
to
move.
If,
if
and
when
we
can
combine
and
do
a
grand
plan
versus
ad
hoc.
B
J
B
B
Know
we
know
where
your
head's
at
but
I
on
80s
I,
agree
with
all
of
my
colleagues.
I.
Do
wonder:
is
there
anything
that
Hab
recommended
that
we
haven't
captured
in
either
this
first
sweep
or
in
Lawrence,
proposed
like
phase
two,
because
they
had
I
liked
all
of
their
recommendations
and
I
didn't
know
if
any
of
those
should
are
easy
to
sweep
into
phase
one
or
are
they
all
phase
two
and
were
any
of
them
things
that
staff
disagreed
with
or
this
Council
disagreed
with?
So
that's
feedback
and
a
question.
W
So,
for
the
most
part,
the
housing
Advisory
Board
recommendations
are
very
similar
to
what
the
staff
recommended
scope
is
one
of
the
or
I
think
the
two
deviations
are
eliminating
the
parking
requirement
which
we're
recommending
for
a
later
study,
and
they
also
recommended
if
this
wouldn't
really
be
a
code
change,
but
implementing
some
pre-approved
plans
for
adus.
So
that
could
be
something
that
could
be
a
future
study
as
well.
Okay,.
V
V
Just
to
clarify
I
think
Lawrence
list
really
spoke
to
a
number
of
zoning
changes
which
we
would
put
in
the
category
of
Zoning
for
affordable
housing.
A
couple
that
were
related
to
edus
is
Lisa
indicated,
but
I
think
maybe
some
of
the
other
ones
that
you're
alluding
to
are
more
in
that
bucket.
B
But
yeah
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
we
are.
We
all
think
we're
putting
the
same
things
in
the
same
buckets
before
we
move
on
so
and
I.
Don't
have
like
a
really
good,
side-by-side
analysis
of.
What's
saying,
are
the
three
things
we're
gonna
get
done
or,
however
many
it
is
right
now
and
then
phase
two
and
then
Lauren's
phase,
one
and
two
list
and
then
halves.
Yeah.
V
Lisa,
why
don't
you
bring
up
that
slide
that
had
the
essentially
happen
to,
and
we
can
review
that
I
think
the
second
column
on
that
does
include
a
few
of
the
things
that
you
indicated
Lauren.
But
then
the
other
ones
again
are
part
of
this
zoning
changes
for
portability,
I
think
one,
maybe
one
slap.
Oh
there.
It
is
yeah.
B
Z
Yeah
so,
let's
see
like
yeah,
so
the
delaying
sort
of
the
future
consideration
the
minimum
parking
which
talked
about
being
on
Habs
list
I
also
had
the
creating
pre-approved
designs
on
my
list.
Z
I
had
some
extra
things
like
potentially
looking
at
allowing
separate
ownership
of
adus
and
then
and
potentially
looking
at
more
than
one
Adu
per
parcel.
Z
B
Thanks
could
I'm
gonna
go
to
Aaron?
Can
we
leave
that
slide
up,
though,
until
the
rest
of
this
part.
T
So
Rachel
and
I
I
tried
to
address
your
your
question
in
my
comments
to
say
that
that
I
I,
like
the
phase
two
idea,
I
thought
Lauren
had
great
ideas.
That
should
be.
You
know,
penciled
in
for
that
phase
two
potentially,
but
that
we
should
also
not
be
setting
the
phase
two
list
in
stone
right
now,
but
determine
it
like
at
the
time
that
we
got
to
that
project.
So
that
was
just
my
my
I
think
that
got
to
what
you
were
saying,
but
I.
B
Appreciate
that
I
guess
I
just
didn't
want
the
ideas
that
were
in
here
to
get
lost.
So,
as
we
have
a
list
of
I
agree,
we
shouldn't
set
it
in
stone,
but
we
should
also
so
that
the
next
Council
knows
what
all
we
considered
and
thought
was
was
worthy
of
future
consideration.
So
it
seems,
like
you
know,
in
the
delay,
to
Future
consideration.
Maybe
the
the
pre-approved
models
and
separate
ownership
would
be
the
two
things
to
add.
B
Anybody
disagree
with
that
and
then
Juni
I
see
your
hand
up
everybody
good
with
that.
The
focus
on
for
now
for
and
then
for
other
ones,
Juni.
B
Y
That
a
hand,
sir,
thank
you
Rachel
I
was
gonna
just
said.
Yes,
I
support
the
general
direction
of
Staff.
The
only
thing
is
with
the
removal
of
the
saturation
limits
is
to
have
to
ensure
robust
Community
participation,
because
I
can't
imagine
some
communities
will
just
not
well.
They
will
have
some
strong
reaction
to
that.
Thank
you.
Y
S
Yeah,
just
kind
of
a
quick
follow-up
to
that
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
Lauren
you
had
suggested
in
your
hotline
post
was
what
the
level
of
Engagement
is
that
we're
thinking
about
for
this
initial
one,
because
a
lot
of
this
stuff
has
had
a
lot
of
Engagement
to
date.
We
have
some
nice
data
that
staff
presented
to
us.
S
You
know
Steph's
been
in
touch
with
Adu
owners
and
so
I'm
just
I'm
curious
about
if
we
need
to
start
at
Consulting
kind
of
what
our
guidance
is
for
staff
in
terms
of
how
we're
proceeding
with
engagement,
because
I
thought,
Lauren's
points
and
hotline
were
really
good
about
how
to
potentially
expedite
that
a
little
bit.
V
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
thanks
for
clarifying
yeah
consult
is,
is,
is
kind
of
the
second
tier
of
Engagement
and
at
least
I
know.
You've
had
conversations
with
Communications
and
there
may
be
even
some
staff
from
Communications
here
to
speak
to
that.
We.
V
That
a
little
bit,
but
we
understand
and
agree
that
there's
been
a
good
amount
of
Engagement,
both
structured
and
unstructured.
If
you
will
an
organic.
L
N
W
No
just
to
say
that
the
idea
with
the
consult
is
that
we
would
use
our
established
boards
and
commissions
process
and,
of
course,
the
adoption
process
through
city
council,
and
that
would
be
kind
of
the
the
way
that
we
would
be
obtaining
feedback.
And
that's
the
way
that
we
would
be
able
to
complete
this
by
the
second
quarter
of
next
year.
G
W
We
did
so,
as
I
mentioned,
the
saturation
limit
was
increased
from
10
to
20
in
those
2018
changes,
so
these
were
questions
that
we
asked
at
that
time
as
well.
So
we
are
thinking
that
we
can
look
back
at
that
engagement.
That
was
done.
You
know
four
years
ago
and
then
supplement
with
the
additional.
You
know:
Adu
surveys
that
we've
done
this
year,
the
evaluation
of
those
changes,
and
then
this
consult
level
of
Engagement
through
the
board
of
the
commission
process.
This
year.
G
W
B
Thanks
and
Lisa
just
I'll
go
to
you
next
Lauren,
but
clarify
that.
That's
the
thing
that
no
other
city
has
right
like
we're.
The
only
city
in
the
country
that
has
a
saturation
limit,
I've.
Z
Lauren
I
I
also
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
you
know
my
favorite
board,
which
is
not
that
there
are
favorites
but
design
Advisory,
Board
I
noticed
is
not
making
it
on
to
some
of
the
lists
of
boards
and
commissions
that
we're
checking
in
with,
and
it
feels
like,
particularly
on
some
of
these.
It
would
be
appropriate.
S
Sorry
I
forgot
one
more
thing:
I
was
going
to
mention
that
I
really
loved
about
Lauren's
hotline
post
was
the
idea
of
scheduling,
kind
of
a
regular
or
scheduling
a
check-in.
S
Some
ways
out
in
the
future
as
well,
so
that
future
Council
can
take
a
look
at
the
changes
that
were
made
and
have
kind
of
a
similar
analysis
to
what
you
all
gave
us
tonight
just
so
that
we
have
that
scheduled
in,
because
it
feels
like
that's
something
that
may
also
help
the
community
understand
that
we're
not
just
going
to
try
to
change
something
and
then
walk
away
from
it,
but
that
we
will
be
looking
at
this
tracking
some
data
and
coming
back
to
it
at
some
distance
out
in
the
future.
V
B
All
right
Steph,
do
you
feel
like
you,
have
what
you
need
on
80
use.
Thank
you.
C
B
Do
thank
you
awesome
thanks
for
that
discussion.
Okay,
so
I
would
propose
that.
Maybe
we
jump
to
question
three
first,
because
you
know
how
we
prioritize
might
impact
how
we
answer
Boulder
Junction
phase:
two
is
everybody?
Okay,
with
going
to
phase
to
question
three
first
I'm
open
to
being
rejected
there
Bob.
U
I'm
reading
question
three,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
I
understand
it,
I
wanted
to
call
it
Korean
on
Tara's
point
on
downtown
planned.
Is
it
would
question
three
handle
that
or
do
I
should
I
say
that
until
question
two.
B
Well
so
I
guess
I
just
read:
question
two
is
just
specific
to
Boulder,
Junction
and
you're,
saying
that
downtown
would
incorporate
that
or
no.
B
Or
questions
yeah,
I
guess
I.
Think
if
question
three
is
like
a
catch-all
and
we're
gonna
prioritize
and
figure
out
like
what
the
order
is
of
everything,
and
so,
if
we
say
Boulder
Junction
is
you
know
not
going
to
be
done
in
the
in
the
coming
year?
I
don't
want
us
to
have
spent
a
whole
lot
of
time.
Talking
about
question
two
until
we
know
where
we're
putting
that
I
guess
yeah.
B
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's
see
if
it
fits
in
question
three
and
we
can
do
a
catch-all
discussion
if,
if
category
three
doesn't
feel
catch-all
enough
to
everyone,
but
three
is:
does
council
agree
with
staff's
recommendations
regarding
prioritization
of
the
work
planning
items,
or
do
we
want
a
different
sequence
of
projects
so
Bob?
Would
you
like
to
start
maybe
making
a
pitch
for
the
downtown
sequencing.
U
Well
sure
I'll
talk
about
everything
other
than
downtown
I
think
what
staff
has
proposed
in
option.
One
is
great
and
we
just
tackled
adus
I'll
talk
about
that
time
in
a
second
I
think
everything
else
is
in
option.
One
column
is
just
right
and
just
fine,
so
I
support
option.
One
and
staff's
recommendations
with
respect
to
downtown
I
want
to
kind
of
build
on
what
Kara
said
and
what
Brad
said
earlier,
there's
a
kind
of
an
interesting
convergence
of
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff.
U
That's
that's
happened
at
the
same
time
and
it's
relatively
uncoordinated
and
and
just
to
kind
of
recap,
some
of
it
for
those
who
may
not
know.
First
of
all,
downtown
Boulder
partnership
has
been
working
on
a
vision
plan
for
probably
at
least
a
year,
maybe
a
little
longer.
The
city
is
funding
part
of
that
several
staff
members.
Several
council
members
have
been
involved
in
that
Vision
plan
and
that
Vision
plan
for
downtown
will
be
approved
by
the
downtown
border
partnership
board
in
in
January
and
I
hope.
U
That
plan
gets
at
least
presented
to
council
sometime
next
year.
As
previously
talked
about
there's,
a
public
spaces
group
met
in
in
Tara
are
working
on
that,
along
with
staff,
we
have
l
located
a
minimum
of
12
million
dollars
from
the
community
culture,
safety
and
resilience
tax
towards
the
Civic
area
and
Pearl
Street
I
know,
Ali
has
taken
the
lead
out.
The
roads
has
taken
the
lead
on
that.
U
Of
course,
we
have
to
see
your
conference
center
that's
being
built
up
in
the
hill,
and
we've
got
some
mobility
issues
around
that
the
CU
and
the
Viking
Community
are
trying
to
work
on
and
that
could
could
involve
some
connections
to
downtown.
As
Natalie
mentioned
earlier
tonight
we
have
a
Mobility
study
for
downtown.
That's
going
to
be
undertaken.
There's
been
a
lot
of
talk
recently
about
a
Performing,
Arts,
Center.
I
know
this
is
a
discussion.
U
That's
seems
like
it's
going
on
since
dinosaurs
walked
to
the
Earth,
but
it
seems
to
be
maybe
a
little
bit
more
real,
this
time
with
Korea
Boulder
I'm,
taking
lead
on
that
with
Uli
and
with
the
dairy,
Arts,
Center
and
they're
actually
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
that
which
I
think
some
of
us
are
participating
in
later
this
month
and
then,
of
course,
we
do
have
the
the
looming
vacancy
of
both
the
bamoka
building,
which
the
city
owns
and
the
atrium
building
which
the
city
owns,
both
of
which
are
landmarked.
U
So
it
just
seems
like
there's
a
whole
lot
of
stuff
going
on
in
that
kind
of
South
downtown
13th,
Street,
CU,
Conference
Center
area.
That
is
all
happening
kind
of
all
at
once
and
I
suppose
the
city
can
either
participate
in
that
or
not
I'd
like
to
see
the
city
participate
in
that
I.
I
completely
understand
that
putting
staff
time
towards
that
could
have
the
undesirable
consequence
of
of
nudging.
Some
of
these
other
things
down
the
road
and
I'm
not
suggesting
that.
U
But
what
I'd
like
to
suggest
is
perhaps
Brad
and
his
team
could
go
back
and
think
about
this
for
a
few
weeks
and
maybe
maybe
at
our
retreat
in
February
or
something
like
at
some
point
in
time.
In
the
next
couple
of
months.
Brad's
team
could
come
back
and
talk
about
what
they
could
do
for
the
city
to
to
be
a
leader
and
a
participant
in
the
in.
U
What's
going
on
in
a
lot
of
different
work
streams
with
the
Civic
area
downtown
and
how
this
the
city
could
be
involved
in
that
and
and
take
a
lead
in
it,
but
frankly,
and
if,
if
there
are
other
work
plan
implications
to
that,
maybe
there
are
maybe
they're
not.
But
I.
Don't
want
to
ask
ask
Brad
to
answer
that
question
tonight.
I
want
to
give
his
team
a
little
bit
of
time
to
think
about
it.
Maybe
come
back
in
January
we're
at
the
February
Retreat,
and
let
us
know
that.
B
Thanks
Bob
others
on
ordering
sequencing,
prioritization
Lauren.
Z
Yeah
so
I
appreciate
what
Bob
just
said:
I
I
do
think
that,
because,
if
I'm
understanding
right,
the
Civic
area
in
downtown
planning
was
sort
of
seemed
like
it
might
mostly
fall
under
comprehensive
planning,
which
also
includes
Boulder,
Junction
and
area
three
planning
Reserve,
and
because
of
the
alignment
of
a
bunch
of
things
coming
up
with
the
city.
For
me,
that
would
be
my
top
comprehensive
planning
item
again.
I
totally
leave
it
up
to
the
planning
department,
how
that
impacts.
Z
Those
other
two
items,
but
just
personally
I
would
like
to
see
that
get
the
attention
that
it
needs
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
that
we
can
help
make
sure
the
rest
of
the
processes
run
forward
smoothly.
Z
I
would,
and
I
mentioned
this
in
my
hotline-
I
mean
occupancy,
is
in
my
mind
one
of
the
ways
we
can
provide
housing,
more
housing
options
for
people
fastest
and
so
to
me,
since
we're
in
this
housing
crisis,
it's
important
for
us
to
do
the
things
that
will
make
change
for
our
community
quickly,
and
you
know,
I
love
that
we're
looking
at
expanding
adus,
but
we,
when
we
saw
that
huge
bump
in
adus
we
were
talking
about
80
units,
is
the
maximum
that
they've
we've
ever
created
in
one
year,
and
that
has
a
lot
to
do
with.
Z
I
know
that
you
mentioned
that
the
use
tables
are
wide
are
have
a
lot
of
things
that
are
really
close
to
completion
and
that's
really
exciting
here
in
our
option,
one
for
the
memolix
that
does
say
that
module
three
is
only
10
percent,
complete
and
so
I.
Guess
in
my
mind,
I'm
wondering
if
there
you
know,
does
that
have
the
same?
Z
Does
pausing
or
delaying
between
two
of
the
modules
have
sort
of
the
same
loss
of
efficiency,
or
is
there
an
opportunity
to
pause
at
that
point
and
maybe
switch
gears
a
little
bit
and
do
something?
You
know
one
of
these
things
that
I
think
that
I
would
like
to
see
us
focus
on
earlier.
B
Z
A
question
for
Brad
I
think
it
is
a
question
yeah
is
there,
is
it?
Can
we
switch
sure
between
modules.
V
O
I
mean
we're
coming
with
an
ordinance
in
December
with
module
two,
so
we're
anticipating
that
module
two
will
be
complete
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Then
we'd
have
to
start
module
three,
so
obviously
that
you
know
if
that
were
to
be
paused
or
tabled
or
whatever.
O
R
Yeah
I'm
also
happy
with
the
staff
recommendation
in
option
one
but
I
also
share
Bob's
desire
that
there'd
be
some
sort
of
organizing
presence
for
all
of
the
components
of
the
Civic
area
and
downtown
refurbishment
I
would
hate
to
have
these
things
being
done
by
separate
groups
and
with
separate
approaches
or
interests
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
city.
Take
the
leadership
role
in
that
and
and
move
it
along.
R
T
Yeah
so
I
appreciate
the
the
work
y'all
have
done
on
the
prioritization
I
think
you've
landed
generally
in
a
good
spot
and
I
appreciate
that
you've
got
a
lot
of
balls
in
the
air
and
I
think
you've
done
a
good
job
in
terms
of
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
bring
them
all
to
a
restful
conclusion.
A
reasonable
time
frame,
I
think
I
messed
up
the
analogy,
but
anyway,
so
just
a
bit
of
some
specific
comments
that
that
I'll
say
one
is
on
the
Boulder
Junction
phase
two
I
get
that
it's.
T
It's
not
timely.
It's
not
within
script
to
finish
the
entire
thing
in
the
next
year,
but
I
appreciated
your
concept
of
having
a
milestone
in
Q3
or
maybe
Q4
of
2023
that
we
could
get
done
with
this
Council
before
moving
to
final
completion.
You
know
maybe
nine
to
12
months
later
so
I
appreciate
that
I
just
would
really
urge
you
to
to
continue
to
shoot
for
that,
and
hopefully
that
timetable
works
out,
because
I
think
having
us
approve
those
land
use.
T
Changes
in
the
planned
amendments
would
be
fantastic
and
then
let
the
implementation
take.
You
know
another,
however
long
it
takes.
So
thanks
for
that
idea.
I
agree
with
it.
I'd
like
to
Echo
Lauren's
point
about
the
importance
and
value
of
occupancy
reform,
and
here
I.
What
I
wonder
is,
if
maybe
we
could
take
a
little
bit
of
a
simpler
approach.
I
think
you've.
You
mentioned
a
working
group
to
be
formed
in
my
experience.
T
Working
groups
take
a
long
time
and
and
I
don't
know
that
that
time
frame
that
you've
got
there
is
feasible
if
we're
starting
a
working
group
from
scratch
and
carrying
it
through
that
whole
process.
So
I
I
wonder
if
it
my
proposal
here.
What
I
thought
here
would
be.
Could
we
do
this?
The
way
you've
been
doing
the
adus,
which
is
there,
wasn't
any
work
performed
here?
T
Instead,
you
all
did
some
comparable
cities
analysis.
You
looked
at
feedback
we've
gotten
from
the
community
in
the
past,
which
of
course,
we've
got
a
lot
of.
We
have
gotten
a
lot
of
inoculants
here
in
the
past
and
then
come
forward
with
with
some
options
that
we
could
consider
through
and
again
through
our
boards
right.
So,
like
you're
talking
about
what
they'd
use,
involve
our
our
housing
and
planning
boards
in
terms
of
doing
recommendations
and
and
I'll
I'll
Echo
Lawrence
thought
about
the
possibility
of
doing
this
relatively
simply.
T
You
know
that
Denver
our
nearby
neighbor
as
the
precedent
of
that
five
unrelated
that
they
passed
was
that
maybe
about
a
year
ago-
and
it
was
actually
referended-
is
that
a
verb
unsuccessfully
so
it's
stuck.
It
had
supported
their
Community.
Obviously
Denver's,
not
I'm,
not
saying
with
it
same
city
at
all,
but
I
think
that's
it's
worth
looking
at.
So
that's
just
a
thought:
we're
not
trying
to
determine
exactly
how
we
handle
occupancy
tonight.
T
So
I
probably
shouldn't
set
something
too
specific,
because
I
don't
want
us
to
try
to
argue
about
exactly
the
best
way
to
do
it,
but
I'll
just
my
point
being
that,
if,
if
you
ran
it
through
the
boards
and
kind
of
leaned
on
the
simpler
side
with
options
that
could
give
us
something
to
consider
maybe
a
little
sooner
more
than
the
Q2
time
frame
than
the
Q3
time
frame,
so
I'll
put
that
that
out
there
for
consideration
and
then
I
I
appreciate
what
my
colleagues
have
said
about
being
involved
in
the
downtown
planning.
T
I
agree
that
that's
good.
We
do
have
a
scheduling
issue
here
right
if
we're.
If
we're
gonna,
move
that
up
you've
got
to
add
Hawk.
T
It's
probably
not
super
simple
for
us
to
be
significantly
involved
in
that,
but
one
thought
I
I
know
when
we
talked
about
this
last
generally,
majority
of
council
wanted
to
keep
area
three
planning
Reserve
moving
forward
sooner
rather
than
later,
but
I
do
believe
that
the
the
underlying
impetus
there
was
to
absolutely
be
ready
for
the
major
update
the
comprehensive
plan
and
and
I
I
think
that
we
had
a
strong
consensus
that
we
need
to
be
ready
for
the
major
update
with
the
planning
Reserve.
T
But
personally
I'd
say
if,
if
you
could
get
some
more
downtown
work
done
a
little
sooner
if
the
planning
Reserve
takes
a
little
bit
longer,
but
it's
still
ready
in
time.
That
would
be
fine
by
me
so
that
that's
one
possibility
of
finding
some
time
under
the
couch
cushions
to
mangle
another
analogy
there
and
I
think
I
think
that's
it
so
again
appreciate
all
the
amazing
work
you're
doing
and
looking
forward
to
getting
some
progress
on
on
all
these
fantastic
initiatives
in
the
next
year.
S
Thank
you,
and
thanks
for
you,
know,
laying
out
our
different
options
fairly
clearly
as
well.
It's
really
helpful
I
think
just
overall,
so
you
have
a
sense
of
where
I'm
coming
from.
For
me,
housing
and
finding
a
way
to
get
people
housed
and
to
stay
housed
is
stay
housed
in
our
in
our
city
is
really
my
main
area
of
priority.
It
feels
like
every
week.
I
am
talking
to
workers,
young
folks
who
are
being
priced
out
of
our
city.
They
are
moving
to
other
communities.
S
These
are
our
workers
and
the
people
who
keep
a
lot
of
our
businesses
going
I
think
I've
mentioned
before
none
of
my
staff
live
in
Boulder
anymore.
S
So
you
know
for
me,
thinking
about
what's
the
fastest
way
that
we
are
getting
to
more
housing
is
really
what
what
I'm
interested
in
trying
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible
on,
and
you
know
to
that
end.
I
see
occupancy
as
Lauren
does
as
kind
of
the
fastest
way
to
up
spaces
that
already
exist
to
folks
in
our
community.
S
You
know
with
that.
I
really
would
love
to
act
with
some
urgency
there.
We
have
heard
a
lot
from
the
community
in
terms
of
what
their
areas
of
concern
are.
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
on
Council
who
represent
different
pockets
of
the
community
and
I
feel
like
we
could
come
up
with
a
sort
of
a
good
enough
proposal,
just
something
to
put
forward
that
we
could
move
on
with.
You
know
again
with
the
idea
that
this
is
something
that
is
relatively
easy
to
change
down
the
road.
S
So
you
know
if
we
get
two
years
in,
we
realize.
Oh,
you
know,
we
really
should
have
had
this
other
thing
in
there
too,
and
we
can
change
it.
So
you
know
I
I,
also
just
like
Lauren's
idea
of
trying
to
move
a
little
faster
on
this
I
think
this
is
a
place
where
you
know
we
will,
regardless
of
what
happens,
we're
not
going
to
make
everybody
in
the
community
happy.
S
But
this
is
a
place
where
we
as
a
body
can
decide
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
and
that
we
can
take
some
of
the
heat
from
staff
in
the
same
way
that
we're
doing
with
can
with
transportation
we
decided.
This
was
going
to
be
an
area
of
focus
because
it
was
a
way
that
we
could
try
to
minimize
severe
accidents
and
there's
a
lot
of
data
that
show
that
I
mean
this
is
also
a
way
that
we
can
move
forward
with
opening
up
some
more
housing
opportunities
to
people
in
our
community.
S
So
I
really
like
the
idea
of
trying
to
move
a
little
faster
with
that,
with
the
understanding
that
we
on
Council
would
really.
We
would
own
that
right
that
that
when
it
when
and
if
people
are
complaining
in
the
future,
that's
that's
on
us
right.
That's
not
that's
not
staff!
So
anyway.
So
that's
my
kind
of
only
main
area
of
feedback
there
I
just
we.
S
We
are
really
in
a
situation
where
a
lot
of
good
people
are
leaving
our
community
and
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we
can
get
more
folks
to
stay
as
quick
as
quick
as
possible.
B
Thanks
Nicole
Tara,
then
Mark
I
do
have
a
question
for
Nuria
on
occupancy.
Just
to
refresh
we're
not
we're
not
enforcing
that
right
now
are
we.
D
We
sort
of
remain
in
the
place
that
we
were
throughout
the
pandemic,
which
is
certainly
if
we
receive
information
that
speaks
to
life
safety
issues.
We
will
certainly
do
that,
but
at
the
moment,
when
we
were
talking
about
that
last
year,
we
had
frankly,
we
didn't
have
staff
enough
to
do
it
and
we
didn't
have
an
interest
and
ability
to
move
that,
and
so
we
are
still
in
that
same
pattern.
G
I
do
agree.
That
course
housing
is
the
most
important
thing.
G
I
know
you
can
over
Community
engage
if
that's
even
a
verb,
but
we
I
feel
like.
We
have
to
really
be
careful
if
the
if
the
library
district
does
win
and
the
next
Council
comes
and
says.
Oh
well,
I
didn't
like
that
outcome.
Are
we
going
to
say
I
mean
you
have
to
listen
to
the
voters?
That's
democracy
after
all,
so
I
really
do
think.
G
We
need
to
have
I
believe
that
it
was
a
staff
member
that
said
that
occupancy
wasn't
going
to
be
easy
because
of
the
community
stress
and
disagreement
on
it,
whereas
adus
there
was
much
more
agreement
on
it.
So
I
don't
think
that
we
should
take
a
shortcut
when
it
comes
to
occupancy
and
Community
engagement
and
I
want
there
to
be
occupancy
reform.
I
just
feel
like
we
need
to
bring
everybody
with
us,
or
at
least
is
80.
So
I
agree
with
you
that
it
we
can
find
something.
R
Elections
do
have
consequence
and
they
do
have
meaning,
and
it
is
important
to
be
respectful
of
the
results
of
an
election
that
doesn't
mean
you
can't
have
occupancy
reform
I'm,
not
suggesting
that
I'm
just
suggesting
that
it
needs
to
be
done
with
sufficient
care
and
caution
and
respect
for
those
who
are
either
nervous
or
apprehensive
about
it,
and
you
do
need
to
bring
the
community
with
you,
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
there
was
such
an
election.
R
It's
we
should
not
feel
that
we
have
full
discretion
to
do
whatever
we
want,
because
that
that's
not
respectful
of
the
democratic
process.
Having
said
that
doesn't
mean,
we
can't
have
this
conversation
and
we
can't
have
some
reasonable
occupancy
reform,
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
taking
shortcuts
on
the
process.
My
other
comment
is
with
respect
to
the
planning
Reserve
scheduled
for
Quarter
Two
in
2024..
R
There's
a
great
deal
of
consultant
work
to
be
done
on
that
as
I
understood
the
memo
and
my
question
is:
can
we
not
engage
the
Consultants
a
little
early
and
then
give
them
a
scope
and
say
go
off
and
and
do
your
consultant
work
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
it
all
has
to
proceed
in
one
in
one
manner,
as
opposed
to
engaging
the
consultants
and
letting
them
prepare
the
way.
V
If
I
may
I
think
we
can
answer
that
quickly
and
Christopher,
if
you
could
chime
in
I
believe
that
is
true.
We
wanted
to
represent
the
overall
project
and,
of
course,
the
column
that
we're
looking
at
with
option.
One
is
a
completion
date
that
that
bait
run
pretty
and
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
Christopher.
If
you
could
confirm
that
conversation,
you
and
I
had.
K
Yeah,
that's
right
so
that
quarter
to
2024
is
anticipated
completion
of
that
of
that
work.
So
we
would
at
least
at
this
point,
would
be
prepared
to
move
forward
with
that
study
next
year
and
come
back
to
council
in
sort
of
late
quarter,
one
early
Quarter
Two,
with
the
preliminary
scope
of
work,
those
items
to
get
that
get
that
ball
rolling
and
get
those
Consultants
engaged.
But
you're.
You
are
correct
that
that
the
the
overall
consult
scope
would
be
significant
for
that
project.
V
I
think
the
question
is:
if
we
just
cut
loose
the
consultant
piece
of
it,
does
that
really
impact
our
overall
work
capacity
and
and
could
we
do
that,
put
it
on
a
shelf
and
then
pick
up
area
three
fairly
later
down
the
road
Christopher.
K
Well,
that
is
a
bit
of
a
more
challenging
question
only
you
know
only
because
we
really
have
not
opportunity
to
really
scope
that
out
and
understand
exactly
what
those
consultant
needs
are
going
to
be
and
and
to
really
frame
that
out.
You
know
the
project,
as
we
have
at
least
initially
thought
about
it,
regardless
of
the
timeline
that
it's
on
it
will
involve
and
engage
a
number
of
Consultants
to
do
those
technical
studies.
You
know
it's
going
to
take
us
a
little,
even
if
we
started
tomorrow
it
it.
K
You
know
it's
a
two
to
three
month
process
to
get
a
consultant
on
board
just
to
get
through
the
procurement
process
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
you
know
we
certainly
would
be
interested
in
bringing
those
Consultants
on
board
as
quickly
as
we
can,
but
not
until
we
kind
of
wrap
our
hands
around
exactly
what
the
scope
of
that
project
is.
You
know
the
question.
We're
really
trying
to
answer
it's
difficult
for
me
to
say
exactly.
T
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
for
a
couple
of
my
colleagues
you
mentioned,
respecting
the
will
of
the
voters
just
want
to
be
clear
that
nobody's
saying
we
should
redo
bedrooms
and
just
pass
it
despite
the
fact
that
it
lost
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
that
we're
all
keeping
that
in
mind,
but
as
as
you
also
referred
to,
we
can
look
into
occupancy
reform
without
trying
to
redo
bedrooms.
S
Yeah
I,
just
kind
of
had
a
similar
follow-up
and
I
was
just
going
to
ask
that
you
know
as
we're
talking
about
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past.
That
we'd
be
really
specific,
with
our
data
points
that
we're
using.
So
you
know,
for
example,
the
bedroom's
measure
was
not
a
ballot
measure
on
whether
or
not
people
wanted
occupancy
reform
right.
I
mean
we
know
that
because
we
we,
as
a
council,
made
it
a
council
priority,
it
was
really
it
wasn't
asking.
Do
you
want
occupancy
reform?
S
It
was
asking,
do
you
want
it
in
this
specific
way?
And
you
know
I'm
sure
you
all
especially
you
know
Mark
Tara,
who
are
also
campaigning
Lauren
last
year,
heard
a
lot
of
people
say:
I
love
this
idea
of
occupancy
reform.
Yes,
yes,
we
need
this
in
our
community
and
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
we're
going
to
get.
S
You
know
these
really
big
dormitories
and
things
if,
if
we
do
it
in
this
specific
way,
so
just
asking
that
as
we
move
forward,
we're
really
clear
in
what
it
is
because,
otherwise
you
know
I
think
we
we
do
enter
a
place
where
you
know
Aaron
was
just
noting.
Where
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
want
people
to
start
thinking
that
we're
trying
to
overthrow
the
will
of
Voters.
S
That's
not
what
we're
doing
here
so
so,
I
think
being
being
specific,
can
can
really
help,
and
just
you
know
really
liked
Lauren's
idea
of
engaging
some
of
the
key
groups
that
we
don't
often
hear
with
hear
from
open
up
a
you
know,
survey
that
allows
a
lot
of
people
across
the
city
to
chime
in
on
our
ideas
and
and
kind
of
go
from
there.
B
Thanks
Nicole,
so
I
think
I,
maybe
break
a
little
bit
from
my
colleagues
here.
I,
don't
totally
agree
with
the
sequencing
I
would
I
would
prioritize
adu's
occupancy
reform
and
then
what
I'm
going
to
say
Zoning
for
affordable
housing,
but
what
I'd
really
like
to
see
is
the
missing
middle
that
we
discussed
two
weeks
ago
prioritized
under
there.
That's
why
I
was
asking
some
pointer
questions
about
the
large
Lots
I.
B
Would
I
would
really
like
to
see
this
Council
move
forward
with
some
duplexing
by
right
and
I
think
that's
an
easy
place
to
start,
because
we
were
already
there
like.
We
were
at
the
point
of
voting
on
in
these
couple
zones.
We
could
do
duplex
or
Triplex
by
right
and
it's
just
a
a
subset
of
of
housing.
That's
already
on
large
lots
that
makes
I
think
a
lot
more
sense
to
do.
B
You
know
to
to
juny's
earlier
Point
duplexing.
You
know
a
side-by-side
attached
rather
than
a
an
Adu
in
the
backyard
where
it
maybe
makes
a
little
bit
less
sense,
so
I
would
I
would
really
like
for
us
to
at
least
get
that
moving
forward.
While
we
work
through
some,
you
know
the
the
larger
duplexing
questions
for
the
city,
but
we
could,
you
know
at
least
have
some
places
where
it
makes
so
much
sense
to
be
moving
forward.
B
There
was
there
was
so
much
engagement
on
that
and
and
again
it
got
to
the
finish
line
and
then,
like
the
ball
dropped,
so
I
I
would
I
definitely
support
Lauren's
idea
of
sort
of
shelving
mod
3
of
is
it
use,
tables
I,
think
you're,
stable,
so
I
would
would
shelve
that
and
make
room
to
make
sure
that
we
get
at
their
everything
in
the
first
two
quarters
of
this
coming
year.
B
Occupancy
and
adus
should
be
across
the
finish
line
and
then
I
would
like
to
see
the
the
you
know.
Affordable
housing
is
is
completed.
You
know,
zoning
in
in
Q2
Q3
I'm
a
little
bit
worried
about
what
all
that
that
encompasses
and
and
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
what
what
we
would
want
it
to
be,
and
then
I'm
I
think
Aaron
maybe
mentioned
like
we
can
maybe
soften
area
three
like
we.
B
We
need
it
several
years
from
now,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
top
thing
right
now
and
then
Boulder
Junction
phase,
two
I
would
I
would
probably
de-prioritize
it's
already
not
till
Q2
24.
But
I
would
like
to
see
these
other
things
for
sure
getting
finished
in
the
coming
year
before
there's
a
council
change,
so
I
would
just
like
the
the
order.
The
priorities
I
would
want
to
see.
B
It
I
know
that
it's
maybe
not
exactly
in
line
with
this,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
some
of
the
things
that
that
are
discrete
sort
of
surgical
to
use
a
term
that
Brad
used
earlier
changes
are,
are
done
and
not
scheduled
for
Q3.
In
a
way
that
can
you
know
if,
if
something
pops
up,
like
my
whole
tenure
uncut
on
uncounseled,
a
surprising
number
of
things
have
have
popped
up.
We
had
covid
we've
had
all
these
Community
tragedies
things
get
moved
back.
B
So
I
would
like
to
see
a
different
prioritization
of
a
couple
things
that
I
think
are
very
important
to
the
sort
of
this
housing
focused
Council
bumped
up
to
the
first
two
quarters,
so
that
we
know
that
even
with
some
slippage,
they're
getting
done,
Lauren
and
then
Brad.
Z
Z
You
know
those
are
also
my
top
three
priorities
and
what
I
care
most
about
seeing
you
know
having
us
move
forward
on
I
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
what
staff
is
working
on
and
has
in
the
works
but
yeah
if,
if
all
other
things
being
equal,
absolutely
those
will
be
my
top
three
and
I
agree
with
Rachel
that
within
zoning
a
for
affordable
housing,
I,
don't
know
that
in
my
mind,
the
staff
memo
didn't
necessarily
capture
exactly
what
I
want
to
see
us
move
forward
with
there
and
I
think
that.
Z
We
should
look
at
scoping
that
in
detail
which
I'm
sure
we
will
at
some
point,
but
just
keeping
in
mind
that
maybe
we
do
a
similar
thing
with
having
a
section
of
things
that
are
easy
to
to
move
forward
with
and
then
maybe
having
another
section
of
things
that
we're
looking
at.
But
not
that
are
on
hold.
B
Thanks
for
that,
Lauren
and
I
think
that
this
was
was
your
work,
treat
prayer
work,
your
retreat
work
priority.
This
is
the
so
I'd,
be
very
curious
to
hear
more
about
what
what
you,
what
you
envisioned
on
that
list,
but
first
over
to
Brad.
V
Well,
thank
you,
mayor
Tim
friend
I
was
going
to
offer
up
the
possibility,
possibility
to
be
going
through
this
list
item
by
item
and
reflecting
what
I,
I
think
I'm
hearing
for
most
of
you
as
a
way
to
kind
of
capture
the
pro
and
cons
that
I've
heard
it
sounds
very
workable.
V
I
would
want
to
maybe
go
through
that
list
and
then,
if
we
were
sitting
down
a
table,
I
would
ask
a
staff
to
kick
me
under
the
table
if
they
disagree.
So
since
we
don't
have
a
table,
I'll
ask
them
to
agree
with
how
I
characterize
the
possibility
and
and
ask
them
to
be
very
honest
again,
like
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
this
whole
study
session
about
the
balancing
of
that
and
then
of
course
get
feedback
from
Council,
but
with
your
permission
that
I'd
be
happy
to
take
a
stamp
at.
V
Good
I'm
hearing
that,
from
most
of
you
on
adus,
you
would
like
to
support
the
staff
recommendation,
which
gets
us
towards
completion
in
quarter
two
of
next
year,
I'm
hearing
for
most
of
you
that
on
Boulder
Junction
phase
two,
you
recognize
that
there's
momentum
towards
that,
especially
the
incremental
piece
that
we
identified
as
an
interim
step
by
by
the
end
of
the
summer.
But
maybe
we
can
pull
little
capacity
off
of
that
to
look
at
the
Civic
area
and
I'll
talk
about
that.
V
Maybe
under
the
site,
review
criteria,
I'm
hearing
following
staff's
recommendation
and
just
getting
that
across
the
finish
line
on
the
use
tables,
I'm
hearing
yep
go
ahead
and
get
module
2
off
across
the
finish
line.
But
let's
put
module
three
on
hold
for:
let's
call
it
a
year
and
take
that
capacity
for
some
other
things
on
occupancy
reform.
V
I'm
hearing
that
we
should-
and
here
there's,
maybe
the
the
greatest
mixture
of
kind
of
opinions,
but
more
or
less
followed
the
staff
recommendation,
but
be
cognizant
of
the
engagement
and
maybe
reaction
to
the
level
of
Engagement
if
it
states
within
scope
still
being
able
to
get
that
through.
V
At
I
would
call
it
early
quarter
three
for
zoning
for
affordable
housing
I'm
here
again
hearing
again
a
most
of
you
saying
that
you
support
the
staff
recommendation,
but
maybe
we
can
take
a
little
side
step
to
see
how
viable
the
large
lot
ordinance
is
as
kind
of
an
early
hit
and
when,
if
that,
if
that
is
viable.
V
Otherwise,
coming
back
to
you
with
either
way
coming
back
to
you
with
the
revised,
let's
go
relative
to
that
or
the
original
scope
that
is
being
presented
as
part
of
this
and
variations
I'm
caring
for
most
of
you
on
area,
three
that
we
could
put
that
on
a
hold
and
take
that
capacity
to
some
of
these
other
areas
as
a
practical
matter,
I
think
an
entire
year
and
then
revisit
it
and.
V
The
Civic
Center
in
downtown
use
at
least
enough
capacity
to
kind
of
develop
the
scope
work
with
the
city
manager's
office
and
have
a
comprehensive
vision
for
that,
also
in
partnership
with
the
other
departments
and
such
give
that
a
full
scope.
B
Z
Just
a
little
one,
so
I
think
that
what
was
outlined
in
the
memo
sort
of
around
zoning
and
affordable
housing,
including
looking
at
open
space
requirements
and
things-
and
you
know
things
like
that
along
with
I-
think
it
also
spoke
to
the
inclusionary
housing
fees.
A
little
bit.
Z
I
also
did
want
to
see
us
look
at
sort
of
density
bonuses
and
streamline
approval
processes
for
projects
that
have
high
levels
of
affordability
and
to
me
I
feel,
like
you
know
that
kind
of
section
of
things
that
I
brought
up
when
we
were
doing
arter
inclusionary
housing
discussion
really
probably
best
fit
within
that
a
work
plan
item
and
was
part
of
what
I
intended
when
we
discussed
this
at
The
Retreat.
Z
S
Yeah
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
my
my
views
on
the
Civic
area,
downtown
I
I'm,
really
not
as
interested
in
taking
capacity
to
use
it
for
that
right
now,
I
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
move
forward
faster
instead
and
use
whatever
capacity
we
have
for
something
that
is
more
housing
focused
it
it.
S
You
know
make
make
some
decisions
and
just
kind
of
move
forward,
based
on
the
knowledge
that
we
have
as
elected
officials
as
representatives
of
our
community
I,
think
you
know
for
for
me
and
I
keep
echoing
this
about
occupancy
reform,
that
that
really
feels
like
one
to
me,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
knowledge
about
what
our
community
will
and
will
not
tolerate,
and
just
thinking
about
how
we
can
use
extra
capacity
that
we
might
might
put
into
say,
Civic
area
or
downtown
to
use
that
instead,
for
you
know,
if,
if
we
were
old
enough
to
kind
of
give,
you
some
some
clear,
specific
guidance
on
what
we
might
be
looking
for
to
get
some
feedback
on
and
move
forward
with,
you
know
does
that
feel
like
something
that
could
be
moved
up
a
little
bit
so
that,
rather
than
looking
at,
for
example,
early
early
quarter
or
three,
we
can
maybe
look
at
really
Quarter
Two.
B
S
Yeah,
no,
it's
okay,
just
just
sort
of
to
to
summarize
I'm
less
interested
in
putting
extra
capacity
into
the
Civic
area
downtown
right
now.
I
really
would
like
to
put
it
into
things
that
are
going
to
help
with
our
housing
crisis
a
little
bit
more.
B
Thanks
Nicole
I
will
and
I'm
sorry
to
have
my
camera
off.
It
just
keeps
freezing
when
I
turn
it
on
so
I'm
Gonna,
Keep,
It,
Off,
sorry,
I'll
do
a
couple.
Straw
polls,
maybe
Nicole
here,
to
see
where
people
align,
because
that
was
my
kicks
under
the
table.
Brad
would
have
been
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
I
heard
the
same,
like
majority
will
articulated
yet
on
a
couple
of
these
things.
B
So
I'm
not
sure
I
heard
from
everybody
that
we
want
Boulder
Junction
to
stay
at
the
top
or
site
review
to
get
across
the
finish
line.
B
Occupancy
I
think
I
heard
strong
request
for
that
to
maybe
bump
up
to
quarter
one
or
two
so
right
now
it's
it's
quarter
two
to
three
so
I
just
want
to
check
in
with
people
on
that
for
zoning.
I
think
Lauren
already
spoke
to
that.
But
I
think
that
maybe
we
want
a
scope
on
on
what's
included
in
that
pretty
quickly,
so
that
we
like
it's
hard
to
say
where
that
falls
in
the
Matrix
or
the
prioritization.
B
If
we're
not
clear
on,
what's
falling
within
it
or
maybe
what's
without
outside
of
it,
and
so
you
know,
are
we
capturing
everything
that
we
wanted
in
that
thing
and
then
I
agree,
I
thought
that
area
three
was
maybe
demoted
a
little
bit.
So
if
people
are
okay
before
we
move
on
to
question
two
I'll
get
you
in
a
second
here,
and
maybe
we
could
do
a
couple
straw
polls
just
to
see
if,
where
people
want
things
Aaron.
T
Yeah
things
which
I
think
a
couple
struggles
are
a
great
idea
I
just
to
talking
about
the
Boulder
Junction
base,
to
just
one
thing
that
you
said
before.
As
you
mentioned,
it's
not
going
to
get
dental
2024
anyway,
just
to
reiterate
that
there
is
a
real,
substantial
Milestone
plan,
for
you
know,
quarter
three
or
four
2023
of
finish
like
adopting
the
plane
revisions
and
adopting
the
land
use
map
changes,
and
if
we
delay
that
effort,
those
won't
get
done
with
this
Council
and
those
would
be
significant
steps
in
the
in
this
project.
B
Great
great
reminder:
I,
it
was
mostly
just
I
I
didn't
feel
that
we
had
adequately
checked
in
on
that
one.
It's
it's
listed
as
Q2
2024
in
the
completion.
I
agree,
there's
a
thing,
and
that
is
a
whole
separate
question
too,
so
that
one
I
just
think
we
haven't
talked
about
too
much
here.
B
Okay,
so
maybe
let's
do
a
show
of
hands,
and
somebody,
just
you
know,
kicked
me
under
the
table-
raise
a
hand
if,
if
you
don't
like
any
of
these
straw
polls,
but
does
everyone
agree
or
is
there
a
majority
support
for
area
three
kind
of
getting
pushed
down
or
demoted
or
delayed
if
we
needed
to
can
I
see
if
people
are
okay
with
that
happening,
I.
B
Up
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it
was
that
was
Brad's
understanding
of
that
one
accurate
that
we're
comfortable
with
sort
of
slowing
that
down
a
little
bit
to
get
to
some
other
things.
First,
I
see
Lauren
Aaron
me
no,
but
Nicole,
so
no
Mark
Mark's
got
it.
Mark's
got
a
virtual
hand
up
which
is
confusing.
To
me
right
now
is
that
is
that
a
raised
hand,
or
is
that
a
question
so
I
think
that's
five,
then,
for
area
three
kind
of
slowing
down,
yeah,
no
dang
question
mark
Wallach.
R
If
we're
going
to
be
housing
focused,
it's
a
comment:
I
would
want
to
point
out
that
area.
Three
planning
Reserve
is
ultimately
intended
to
be
a
source
of
housing
and
you
know,
keep
pushing
it
back
and
back.
R
You
will
not
find
very
much
greater
opportunity
for
affordable
or
middle-income
housing
than
land,
a
good
portion
of
which
we
own,
and
so
to
continue
to
kick
that
one
down
the
road
makes
not
as
much
sense
to
me
and
my
other
comments
with
respect
to
the
Civic
area,
I
like
to
think
that
we
can
chew,
gum
and
walk.
At
the
same
time.
We
have
eight
priorities
here:
six
are
dedicated
to
housing,
including
Boulder,
Junction.
R
Seven.
If
you
want
to
characterize
area
three
in
that
respect
and
so
kicking
the
you
know,
not
spending
planning
resources
on
the
Civic
area
and
downtown
makes
little
sense
to
me.
We
cannot
be
only
about
housing,
even
though
it
is
the
highest
priority,
but
most
of
our
priorities
here
deal
with
housing.
I
think
we
ought
to
have
the
opportunity
to
spend
some
resources
on
the
Civic
area
and
downtown
as
well,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
our
tourist
industry.
Y
I
feel
like
me
and
Mark
we're
like
a
choir,
because
we've
been
saying
the
same
thing
since
we
started
here
on
Council
back
in
2019
and
we're
almost
in
2023
I,
just
think
if
we
keep
delaying
and
delaying
it's
just
gonna
take
years
and
years
and
all
we're
doing
in
area
three,
my
understanding
from
the
last
time,
it's
just
a
study,
even
though
I
know
or
who,
because
we're
a
council
that
is
focused
on
housing
and
affordable
housing.
Y
But
that's
not
essentially,
what's
going
to
happen.
It's
a
study
at
first,
so
I
just
don't
understand
why
we
keep
pushing
it.
If
we
push
pause
it
and
when
is
it
going
to
happen
and
my
understanding,
even
if
we
were
to
decide
to
do
housing
in
that
area,
it's
gonna
take
a
long
time.
So,
the
more
we
push
this
out,
as
Mark
mentioned,
the
less
likely
we
are
to
know
what
we
can
do
with
the
area
and
with
the
hope
of
eventually
creating
more
housing.
I.
Y
Just
don't
think
that
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
would
support
keeping
it
where
it
is
so
that
we
can
hopefully
get
there
because
pausing,
it
is
not
helpful.
I,
don't
think
so,
and
we've
been
advocating
for
this
since
20
2019
or
since
a
retreat
of
2020,
and
here
we
are
almost
three
years
later
and
we
keep
pausing
and
pausing
so
I,
just
yeah
I,
don't
agree
with
that.
I
would
appreciate
if
Council
just
keep
moving
forward
with
eventually
getting
that
study
done.
Thank.
T
So
what
just
to
clarify
I
mean
I
think
the
the
discussion
on
area
three
was
not
not
to
delay
the
eventual
conclusion
of
that
project,
but
we
can't
we
can't
start
the
next
phase
after
this
one
until
the
2025
major
update
for
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
it
was
just
saying
well,
we
could
we
could
pause
for
a
little
while
so
long
as
we
still
get
it
done
in
time
for
the
2025
comprehensive
plan
just
to
be
clear,
it's
just,
but
if
the
majority
doesn't
want
to
do
it,
that's
fine
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear:
it's
not
about
trying
to
keep
it
from
happening,
but
just
we
can't
get
to
the
next
phase
until
2025
anyway,.
S
Aaronston,
it
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
do
it,
there's
just
a
discreet
point
when
it
needs
to
be
done
by
and
we're
just
saying,
rather
than
do
it
out
here,
Brad
there's
still
time
right,
we
can
still
that's
correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
I
don't
know
if
Allie
Rhodes
is
on
the
line,
but
she
Parks
does
have
a
lot
to
do
with
area
three.
So
can
we
ask
her
if
she
has
anything
to
add,
since
she'll
have
a
lot
to
do
with
area
three,
or
is
that
inappropriate,
Brad.
V
C
C
V
Geography
and
the
acreage,
but
it
does
fit
into
a
larger
package
of
all
the
infrastructure
look
at
and
those
types
of
things
looks
like
she's
going
to
be
able
to
join
just
here
in
a
couple
of
seconds.
D
B
Maybe
we
can
move
on
while
we're
waiting
and
Ally.
If
you,
if
you
raise
your
hand,
if
you
get
here
and
would
like
to
speak,
that's
fine
is
that,
okay
with
you
Tiara,
oh.
J
Fighting
I
have
real
clothes
on
still
at
least
you
can
see
my
sweater
while
we're
waiting.
B
J
Sorry
I'm
having
a
delay
because
I'm
saying
that
right
now
we're
fighting
I
I
have
sorry.
I
was
watching
it
online
and
I
didn't
stop
that.
That
was
weird.
It
was
very
good
sorry
about
that
when
I'm
not
participating,
I
watch
online
because
I'm
always
afraid
I'm
gonna,
like
I,
don't
know
anyway,
area
three
I'm
Ali,
Rhodes,
folks,
I'm,
the
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
Here's
what
we
know
because
we
talked
about
area
three
and
the
recently
accepted
and
city
council
approved
Boulder
parks
and
recreation
master
plan
area.
Three
was
always
purchased.
J
The
the
187
Acres
that
are
designated
this
Parkland
was
designated
to
meet
future
needs
of
the
community.
Based
on
current
analysis.
We
don't
need
that
for
the
next
10
years
or
maybe
even
further,
and
we
do
have
property
within
the
city
that
we
would
love
to
develop.
Violet
park
is
in
our
most
immediate
plans,
but
Valmont
city
park
is
certainly
going
to
be
needed
and
would
be
our
priority
before
anything
in
area.
Three.
G
Against
us
doing
going
forward
with
our
study,
or
are
you
good
with
that
or.
J
I
don't
get
to
decide
that
I
don't
have
any
concerns
at
all.
You
know
the
Baseline
Urban
Services
study
I
understand
the
value
of
it.
I
I
don't
have
concerns.
If
you
ask
specifically
around
Park
priorities,
it
won't
inform
our
development
in
the
next
10
years,
unless
you
should
determine
to
move
forward
with
housing
development
and
then,
of
course,
there
would
be
appropriate
Parkland
Associated
that
because
of
the
requirements
of
Base,
you
know
area
one
city
levels
of
service.
B
Get
with
that
Tara,
okay,
it
seemed
like
a
lot
of
hands
and-
and
now
not
so
that
was
a
that
was
a
losing
straw
poll.
I.
Think
though,
but
let
me
just
if
I
could
just
count
those
hands
again,
because
I
got
confused
because
then
there
were
virtual
hands
going
up,
so
our
a
show
of
hands
for
anyone
who
was
comfortable
with
area
three
being
sort
of
scooched
back,
but
still
done
in
the
right
time
frame
for
2025.
B
B
Let's
see
I
think
that
just
the
only
sounds
like
just
Boulder
Junction,
maybe
I
was
just
unclear
and
that
we
hadn't
talked
about
it.
Is
there
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
comfortable,
as
Brad
said
and
Aaron
has
indicated,
with
Boulder
Junction
staying
on
track,
at
least
for
the
first
Milestone
thing
I.
We
just
didn't
have
a
lot
of
comments
on
that,
so
I
didn't
want
to
not
touch
base
on
it,
so
show
of
hands
people
good.
B
With
that
staying
I
see
Lauren
me
Tara,
Nicole's
scooching
in
her
chair
I
can't
tell
if
they're
is
really
only
we
got
a
Nicole,
so
I
think
it's
Lauren
Aaron
me
Tara
Nicole
did
everybody
say:
did
you
repeat
that
question
one
more
time
please
I
got
Brad
had
indicated
that
Boulder
Junction
would
keep
towards
the
top
of
the
list
and
we
Lauren
and
I
had
indicated
like
we
had
a
different
top
three,
but
then
there's
a
a
milestone
coming
up
that
Aaron
indicated
we
want
to
get
through,
and
so
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
a
show
of
hands.
S
Yeah
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
on
this.
This
is
relating
back
to
the
discussion
that
we
had
back
in
September
right
and
that
kind
of
direction
that
we
I
think
so
focused
on
at
that
point,
and
it's
basically
just
to
kind
of
stay
going
in
that
direction.
Is
that
am
I
understanding
that
right?
Okay,
then,
yes,.
B
B
That
was
what
Brad
wanted
and
you
voted
yes
for.
Okay,
so
good
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
one
I
think
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
on
the
occupancy
Brad.
Is
it
possible
to
get
that
within
quarter
one
or
two,
because
I
thought
I
heard
people
saying
that?
But
then
your
recap
was
kind
of
still
quarter.
Three,
so
I
wanted
to
clarify
council's
intention
there
yeah
so.
V
You
know
if
we
haven't
gotten
to
the
use
table.
Yet
if
there's
agreement
about
the
module
3
being
put
unfold,
that
gets
us
a
little
capacity,
I'm,
hesitant
to
suggest
that
that's
quarter,
one
or
even
two,
because
there
are
some
unknowns
about
that.
What
we
definitely
would
be
doing
with
that
is
coming
to
you.
V
You
know
with
the
study
session
late
quarter,
one
quarter
two,
and
if
it
is
able
to
stay
in
the
scope
that
some
of
you
envision
then
I
would
say
we
would.
We
would
still
be
able
to
commit
to
that
quarter
three,
but
there
were
differing
opinions
about
what
the
scope
either
could
be
or
should
be,
or
what
the
amount
of
Engagement
would
be
necessary
or
would
just
be
imposed
from
the
public
so
that
that
that
has
some
variability
to
it.
I
don't
know
if
that
eliminated.
Anything.
V
B
Okay,
so.
B
S
Yeah
I'm,
just
I,
think
I'm
just
still
a
little,
not
understanding
kind
of
what
the
proposed
engagement
is
and
what
kind
of
consensus
is
Among
Us
for
what
that
might
be
so
I.
You
know
I
think
Lauren
in
our
hotline
post
to
kind
of
proposed.
S
You
know
us
kind
of
taking
our
best
knowledge
that
we
have
from
the
many
many
many
conversations
we've
had
around
this
coming
up
with
a
proposal
offering
that
to
some
of
the
maybe
some
key
focus
groups
of
constituencies
that
we
don't
feel
like
we've
heard
from
as
much
or
that
we
are
not
representing
and
then
moving
forward
from
there
and
I
I
think
I'm
just
still
a
little
bit
unclear
on
what
the
what
the
alternative
is.
That's
being
considered.
S
Possibly
Brad
I,
don't
I
think
it's
it's
really
just
a
question
of
you
know
is:
is
there
a
place
for
a
faster
engagement
process?
If
council
is
willing
to
be
to
take
our
knowledge
that
we
have
to.
V
Be
specifically
yes,
I
I
have
been
told.
V
Others
have
asserted
some
among
you
that
if
Council
took
a
very
surgical
to
use
that
term
again
gave
very
surgical,
Direction
on
what
that
policy
were
to
be
and
to
your
point,
acknowledge
or
recognized,
as
staff
I
think
we
would
naturally
want
to
bring
to
your
awareness
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
public
input
and
reaction
to
you
know
a
fairly
specific
directional
approach
from
Council
on
that.
But
if
that
were
to
be
the
case,
you
know,
if
counsel
said,
we
think
the
number
should
be
X.
V
That's
really
the
main
thing
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
that
that
that
could
be
a
very
you
know,
potentially
be
the
quicker
scenario.
Even
in
that
scenario,
I
would
say
still
late
quarter
to
beginning
of
quarter,
three
they're
just
a
lot
of
variables
around.
B
Z
It
kind
of
seems
like
we're
trying
to
you
know,
make
a
fair
Brad
we've
been
asking
you
about
sort
of.
If
we
took
this
or
like
readjusted
things,
it
sort
of
feels
like
between
all
of
the
things
that
we've
proposed
around
potential.
Z
You
know
like
taking
a
little
bit
of
scope
off
out
of
use,
tables
and
standards
and
sort
of
being
more
specific
about
what
we're
asking
for
engagement
on
with
occupancy.
And
what
that
engagement
looks
like
you're
still
saying,
quarter
two
and
quarter
three,
which.
Z
Is
the
same
and
and
I
I
guess
I
would
wonder,
is
there
when
you
come
forward
with
this
scope
and
engagement,
could
you
try
and
have
a
proposal
for
what
a
quarter
one
quarter
two
program
might
look
like
that
we
could
weigh
against
a
quarter
two
quarter
three
program.
Four,
this
item.
V
V
H
V
That
would
that
extra
capacity
from
moving
module
three
would
definitely
put
us
into
space
unoccupancy
to
prioritize
that
maybe
I
could
ask
Charles
and
Carl
to
kind
of
weigh
in
and
see
if
the
way
I've.
T
N
I'll
certainly
defer
to
Carl
ultimately,
but
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Brad
I
think
that
tracks
with
what
our
understanding
is.
C
V
I
think
what
I'm
I'm!
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
I
appreciate
that
and
what
I'm
trying
to
do,
councilor
falkerts
in
in
explaining
that
is
just
talking
to
the
ambiguities
that
that
we
want
to
make
sure
Council
understands
around
occupancy,
as
opposed
to
say,
the
site,
review
and
use
which
are
more
prescribed.
I
can
offer
up
some
thoughts
too,
on
the
Zoning
for
affordable
housing.
When
we
get
to
that
point,.
Z
T
Hand
is
back
so
that
that
was
helpful,
Brad
and
long
for
that
clarification.
So
rich
I,
wonder
maybe
if
this
this
drop
next
drop
hole
might
become
not
to
take
our
facilitation.
But
to
do
we
agree
to
delay
the
module
three
of
the
use
tables
to
free
up
some
capacity
to
get
occupancy
moved
up
a
bit.
B
That's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
do.
So,
let's
see
a
show
of
hands,
are
we
comfortable
delaying
module
3
of
use
tables
to
prioritize
some
other
things
happening
quicker,
I,
see
Aaron
me
that
it
Nicole
I,
think
Lauren's
disappeared,
Junior.
Y
B
So
I
think
we're
we're
just
shuffling,
so
it's
not
delaying
some
things
are
going
to
get
sped
up
and
some
things
are
getting
it's
more
like
council's
weighing
in
on
a
proposed
order
from
staff
and
and
deciding
whether
to
Shuffle.
So
like
does
occupancy,
get
moved
up
and
then
module
three
move
down
is
sort
of
the
the
question.
I
think
things
like
that
I'm
taking
that
as
not
a
yes
vote,
which
would
make
it
a
four
to
four
yeah.
It's
a
no
thank
you
so
much.
B
Okay,
so
I
I
think
that
module
three
will
proceed
and
then,
if
I
heard
Brad
correctly,
occupancy
stays
back
at
q23
as
a
result
of
that.
V
Yeah,
that
would
be
the
consequence
of
that
very
solidly
in
Q3.
At
this
point,
I
would
say:
Okay.
B
AA
I
I
think
that
yes,
I,
think
that
is
a
question
for
me.
So
if
you're
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
you're
asking
if
you're
asking,
could
you
bring
this
back
at
another
meeting
where
council
member
Benjamin
is
here?
Certainly,
if
that's
the
will
of
council,
you
could
do
that.
AA
You
know
typically
to
receive
Council
direction.
We
would
we
would
look
to
the
members
of
council
who
are
here
now.
You
know
particularly
with
something
that
is
not
quite
a
vote,
but
it
walks
and
quacks.
B
V
Oh
I,
I
completely
agree
with
Teresa
I
would
point
out,
what's
a
little
bit
unique
about
this,
coming
back
for
a
vote
really
kind
of
entails
coming
back
to
all
of
them
or
many
of
many
of
the
things,
because
we're.
U
V
About
the
interconnectivity
in
SMS,
so
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
it's.
This
sort
of
discrete
issue
that
we'd
be
asking
him
to
weigh
in
at
some
later
point,
but
of
course
we
can.
We
can
do
that,
however
Council
wishes,
but
we
may
walk
away
fairly
inclusive
tonight
without
without
them,
okay,.
D
Okay
well
and
to
be
clear:
it's
not
the
waiting
as
much
as
that's
the
completion,
because
first
we'd
come
to
you
and
see
for
occupancy.
For
example,
what
is
it
that
you'd
like
us
to
do
right,
so
that
would
actually
give
us
the
scope
or
not,
and
then,
depending
on
that
scope,
we
could
get
it
done
quicker
or
not.
So
that's
part
of
up
to
you
is,
as
we
think
about
it,
so
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
and
I
know.
D
B
S
Yeah
I
mean
just
just
to
that
question
of
you
know
what
what
difference
does
a
quarter
make
and
Brad
I?
You
know
I
mentioned
this
to
you
as
well,
and
you
know,
maybe,
if
you
just
want
to
have
a
chance
to
respond
to
everybody
on
cancel,
but
you
know
for
me,
that's
that's
the
difference
of
when
Lisa's
are
signed
right,
so
I
mean
if
we're
talking
about
earlier
in
you
know,
Quarter
Two,
that's
time
for
folks
to
make
adjustments
to
you
know
kind
of
Legally
live
with
their.
S
You
know
chosen
people
and
I.
Don't
you
know
if,
if
we're
waiting
until
quarter
three,
then
that's
that's
sort
of
pushing
that
off
right
functionally
a
year
or
so.
So
that's
that's!
That's
for
me
where
some
of
this
urgency
comes
from
is
just
knowing
knowing
how
early
folks
start
signing
leases
for
the
fall
and
I'm
not
talking
just
about
students
either.
So
just
folks
in
our
community.
B
Appreciate
that
Nicole
Aaron
and
then
hopefully
move
a
bit
on
yeah.
T
And
I
just
I'd
say
we
probably.
This
has
been
a
complex
discussion,
so
we
probably
don't
want
to
try
to
revisit
it
at
another
meeting,
but
I
did
check
on
Matt's
hotline.
He
was
interested
in
accelerating
occupancy,
but
he
certainly
didn't
weigh
in
on.
Should
we
delay
module
three
of
the
use
tables
in
order
to
get
some
capacity
to
work
on
occupancy
the
thing
that
I
might
suggest
on
on
that
in
terms
of
because
there's
some
interest
in
tackling
this
is
you
know,
perhaps
you
know
Brad.
T
We
can
get
that
study
session
where
we
start
talking
about
occupancy
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
then,
if
Council
might
give
direction.
That
is
more
kind
of
concise
to
nuria's
point
we
might
give
direction,
do
something
simpler
or
something
more
complicated,
and
then
that
that
could
have
a
big
influence
on
how
quickly
it
gets
it
done
so
to
folks
who
want
to
make
it
happen,
a
little
quicker
you
might
want
to
be
sharpening.
Myself
include
sharpening
our
pencils
to
think
about
a
simpler
approach,
rather
than
a
more
complex,
forming
potentially
but
Brad.
O
Yeah,
that
was
in
the
timeline
to
come
back
at
the
end
of
quarter,
one
with
a
study
session
to
talk
about
occupancy
and
Zoning
for
affordable
housing.
We
did
want
to
have
enough
time
to
complete
the
analysis
of
the
peer
communities
and
come
up
with
options.
I
think
if
we
were
to
put
it
at
the
beginning
of
quarter,
one
that
analysis
would
would
not
be
as
complete.
N
V
This
might
be
a
good
point
for
me
to
also
say
there's
a
lot
more
art
than
science
here
and
I'm,
trying
to
be
careful
that
we
don't
try
to
act
as
if
these
timelines
are
are
something
that
we
can
be
absolutely
precise
on
the
site.
Review
use
table
pretty
pretty
clear
on
occupancy
and
Zoning
less
clear,
and
while
those
completion
dates
are
shown
against,
some
of
the
complexity
is
just
hard
to
anticipate.
V
We
might
find
ourselves
doing
the
work
sessions
that
we
that
we
indicate
we
can
do
fairly
early
in
the
year,
but
any
change
in
scope
and
such
or
even
circumstances
could
change
that
fairly
significantly,
not
to
revisit
the
module
three,
but
just
that
that
was
kind
of
the
point
and
if
that
were
put
on
hold,
it
maybe
gives
a
little
more.
V
You
know
we
go
room
to
deal
with
those
uncertainties,
but
that
was
kind
of
the
logic
in
parsing.
Some
of
this.
B
Thanks
Brad,
so
I
think
maybe
the
only
thing
left
on
my
list
was
just
Lauren's
question
about
the
scope
for
affordable
zoning
stuff
just
and
Brad.
He
would
come
back
to
us
with
that.
Just
make
sure
everybody's
comfortable
with
whatever
that
timeline
is
yeah.
So
when.
V
We
indicated
in
the
in
the
memo
of
the
recommendation
option
one
completion
of
quarter,
one
quarter
three
for
zoning.
That
was
with
the
very
just
as
a
reminder
from
our
presentation
that
was
with
the
very
specific
items
that
were
identified
in
the
The
Retreat
earlier
of
the
year
we
put
as
as
I
we
just
talked
about
I
could
see.
V
We
would
we
would
plan
to
come
forward
with
the
work
session
in
the
early
part
of
the
year
for
Zoning
for
affordable
housing,
and
if,
in
that
discussion,
there
was
a
decision
to
add
more
of
these
types.
V
That
that
many
of
you
are
asking
and
and
suggesting
are
important
to
include
in
that-
we
would
just
want
to
make
clear
at
this
stage
that
that
would
then
push
that
completion
time
out.
But
there
absolutely
would
be
every
opportunity
to
talk
about
including
the
list
of
items
from
Lauren's
hotline
and
some
of
the
other
items
discussed
today.
O
I
mean,
as
we've
stated
in
this
this
discussion,
my
workload
these
days
is
very
much
heavy
on
development
review,
so
we're
having
a
new
staff
member
start
next
week,
who
will
start
to
strip
some
of
that
away.
But
there
are,
there
are
some
things
I
am
committed
to.
That
would
be
difficult
to
give
up
so
having
a
a
complete
packet
with
all
the
information
that
Council
would
expect
for
early
January.
We
could
certainly
do
it,
but
it
just
would
not
have
the
level
of
quality
and
Analysis
that
Council
typically
expects
so.
C
O
Think
that's
why
we
were
kind
of
letting
that
process
of
work
strip
away
from
development
review
to
another
case
review
or
may
be
able
to
then
take
these
projects
on.
Do
the
the
necessary
groundwork
to
give
as
much
good
information
as
we
can
to
council
to
make
a
good
decision
yeah!
That's
why
we
recommend
it
later
in
quarter,
one
that.
N
That
was
our
Hope
was
either
late
quarter,
one
or
early
Quarter
Two.
We
still
have
a
little
bit
of
onboarding
to
do
with
new
staff
next
week
and
then
staff-
that's
just
started,
is
still
up
and
running
and
we're
still
tying
up
loose
ends
on
the
site,
review
code
changes
and
the
module
two
of
use
tables
that
we're
trying
to
bring
forward
by
the
end
of
the
year
here.
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
hustle
that
would
prevent
us
from
really
getting
a
jump
on
what
happens
after
the
holidays
right
in
January.
N
V
V
There
was
earlier
some
thought
about
capacity
when
we
were
talking
about
Boulder
Junction
and
some
of
those
just
to
clarify,
we
don't
have
the
the
means
ability
to
move
some
of
the
staff
that
are
doing
in
comprehensive
planning
to
move
over
into
these
policy,
because
the
time
it
would
take
them
to
get
up
to
speed
with
these
issues
would
would
benefit
the
overall
time
frame.
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
B
Thanks
for
that
so
like
on
The
Matrix
that
we're
looking
at
where
it
says
Zoning
for
affordable
housing,
completion,
Q2
or
three,
doesn't
that
mean
that
we
would
be
voting
on
it
in
Q2
or
Q3
those
those
zoning
changes?
Because,
if
we're
not
going
to
see
good,
even
what
we
might
want
until
the
end
of
like
end
of
q1
is
ambitious
and
probably
not
Q2,
it
seems
hard
to
again
I'm
just
trying
to
play
out
a
timeline
of
we
got
one
year
left
with
his
Council.
V
B
Okay,
maybe
we'll
all
sleep
on
that
and
and
think
of
of
what
what
how
we
maybe
can
Shuffle
when
we
get
to
the
occupancy,
look
or
something.
Okay,
any
other
questions
on
question
three
and
then
we'll
do
a
quick
touch.
I
think
question
two
is
probably
almost
self-explanatory
at
this
point,
but
anything
else
on
this
question.
B
V
I
I
think
I
think
where
things
landed,
if
I
can
summarize,
is
looking
at
the
chart
here,
delaying
the
area
three
Reserve
to
buy
capacity
on
the
comprehensive
planning
side
of
things
and
then
everything
else
more
or
less
thing
like
the
option.
One
recommendations,
but
with
the
clear
recognition
that
the
occupancy
and
Zoning
for
affordable
housing
Scopes
will
be
discussed
as
part
of
those
work
sessions.
Earlier.
V
C
B
Okay,
let
us
move
on
then,
to
item
three.
Thank
you
thanks
so
much
Brad
and
all
the
staff
and
everyone's
patience
for
that
Nuria
sure.
D
Thanks
so
much
and
I
appreciate
the
previous
conversation
as
well.
I
know
it
is
hard
there's
so
many
things
we
want
to
do
and
I
think
we
got
what
we
needed
here
where
Council
would
like
us
to
try
to
get
to,
and
please
know
that
we
will,
as
always,
try
to
be
as
responsive
as
we
can
within
the
work
that
is
coming
to
fruition
and
ending
soon.
D
But
you've
asked
me
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
elections
today
and
want
to
just
make
note
that,
though,
the
the
results
yet
are
not
certified
unless
I've
somehow
missed
something
while
I've
been
in
Council,
but
the
update,
as
we
know
it
and
sort
of
our
expected
next
steps
on
the
ballot
items
is
as
follows,
and
I'll
start
with
2A
and
2B
the
climate
text
issue.
So
Boulder
voters
have
approved
two
measures:
two,
a
and
2B
that
will
support
climate
action
in
the
community.
D
The
changes
will
appear
on
future
Excel
Energy
utility
bills
for
Bolder
customers
in
the
short
term,
the
city
and
Excel
Energy
is
working
together
to
help
energy
customers
understand
those
changes
to
their
2023
natural
gas
and
electricity
bills.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
kind
of
everyone
knows
that
some
changes
are
coming
and
so
we'll
continue
to
communicate
about
that.
D
City
staff
is
going
to
begin
rolling
out
an
engagement
process
to
better
understand
the
needs
and
desires
of
community.
In
this
regard,
the
conversations
with
community
members
will
help
guide
how
existing
tax
dollars
are
invested,
as
well
as
large-scale
Investments
that
could
be
made
locally
and,
in
addition
to
providing
critical
funding
for
Boulder's
climate
work.
We
the
measure
that
was
just
approved,
1.5
million
of
the
collected
revenues,
is
going
to
be
used
each
year
to
accelerate
Wildfire
resilience
measures.
D
We've
already
established
a
cross-departmental
team
to
identify
and
prioritize
enhance
actions
that
the
city
will
be
able
to
implement,
beginning
in
2023,
with
increased
Wildland,
Wildfire
resiliency
funding,
and
actually
we
expect
to
have
a
conversation
with
Council
in
the
early
part
of
the
next
year
as
well
on
even
year.
Elections,
which
is
a
ballot
item
2E
voters
appear
to
have
approved
moving
City
elections
to
even
years.
D
The
next
step,
for
that
will
be
to
modify
our
materials
and
processes
to
support
this
transition
in
2023
and
2025
for
three-year
terms,
as
the
ballot
item
specified
and
then
I
just
note
that
ballot
2D
on
City
Charter
clarifications
regarding
candidate
issues
has
also
passed
on
2f
and
CU
South
annexation
and
just
want
to
say
we
recognize
that
our
community
appears
to
favor
maintaining
that
annexation
agreement
once
the
vote
count
is
final,
we're
eager
to
continue
work
on
South
Boulder,
Creek
flood
mitigation
and
commit
to
prioritizing
life
and
safety
issues,
while
keeping
in
mind
the
Beauty
and
the
value
in
this
area.
D
We
will
be
working
closely
with
CU
throughout
the
process
to
ensure
the
terms
of
the
annexation
agreement
are
upheld
as
we
move
forward.
We
remain
committed
to
providing
transparent
and
accurate
information
to
our
community.
We're
aware
that
there
are
strong
and
diverse
views
about
the
annexation
and
we're
committed
to
working
on
behalf
of
the
whole
Community
as
we
take
next
steps
regarding
the
flood
mitigation.
It's
a
multi-year
process
and
we
are
eager
to
increase
protections
for
this
vulnerable
part
of
our
community
as
soon
as
possible.
D
The
lastly
I'll
say
that
on
item
60,
the
library
districts,
this
continues
to
be
a
very
close
race.
Close
vote,
I
should
say
and
we'll
be
waiting
the
final
results,
but
it
appears
that
the
district
will
be
approved.
The
city
is
committed
to
making
this
transition
as
smooth
as
possible.
D
The
immediate
next
steps
will
be
to
have
Council,
amend
the
appropriation
ordinance
for
reduction
of
the
city's
current
0.333,
mil
Levy
for
the
current
dedication
to
the
library,
as
we
previously
discussed,
we'll
also
begin
the
process
for
the
city
and
the
county
to
appoint
the
initial
board
of
directors,
which
requires
two
members
of
council
to
serve
on
a
committee
with
two
County
Commissioners.
These
scheduling
requests
will
come
to
CAC
on
Monday.
B
Yes,
thank
you,
so
much
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
community
had
a
sense
of
where
we
were,
after
some
some
important
and
also
some
contentious
votes.
So
thank
you
for
bringing
us
up
to
speed
on
that.
B
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
this
evening?
Otherwise,
I
believe
I'll
wait
for
a
show
of
hands.
Anybody
have
questions
debrief.