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B
F
E
A
Excellent
and
I
I
assume
that
tape
knows
it's
October,
24th
2017,
so
tonight's
special
meeting
agenda
is
several
matters
from
our
consent
agenda
from
last
week
that
we
knew
that
people
wanted
to
speak
to
as
well
as
a
matter
on
sheltering
and
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
have
open
comment
on
those
matters.
If
folks
can
start
with
their
name
and
address
and
you'll
have
two
minutes
and
if
you'll
come
up
to
the
lectern
over
here
we
decided
we
keep
it
more
informal
since
we're
really
having
mostly
a
study
session
tonight.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
and
greetings
to
the
City
Council
this
evening.
I
would
note
that
today
is
United
Nations
Day
in
the
world,
as
well
as
world
polio
Day.
That
is
not
why
I'm
here,
my
name
is
Carlton
seaman.
My
name
is
misspelled.
It's
s!
T.
Instead
of
T
s,
I
live
in
North
Boulder,
I'm
retired
from
the
UN
I'm
a
polio
eradicated.
G
But
what
brings
me
here
tonight
is
that
I
am
a
member
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
Boulder
Nablus
sister
City
project
and
I
am
here
at
the
direction
of
the
board
to
deliver
a
message
to
the
council,
and
that
message
is
simple:
it's
two
words.
It's
thank
you,
and
we
wanted
to
say
this
because
some
of
the
council
members
aren't
going
to
be
here
a
month
from
now,
and
so
we
wanted
to
say
it.
While
it
was
still
the
council
that
approved
our
application.
G
Almost
a
year
ago,
the
council
has
expressed
its
confidence
in
us
and
we
believe
that
we
have
lived
up
to
that
confidence
this
past
year
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so.
We
also
want
to
thank
the
council
for
their
political
courage
in
improving
us,
because
there
was
significant
and
politically
powerful
opposition
to
our
application,
and
so
it
was
a
courageous
decision
that
you
took
to
approve
us
as
the
8th
sister
city
in
Boulder.
G
The
final
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
we
are,
we
did
do
a
delegation
to
novelist's
earlier
this
year,
we're
doing
another
one
next
year,
approximately
October
of
next
year
and
all
City
Council
members
are
invited
to
join
us
to
come
to
Nablus
in
October
of
2018,
and
even
ex
city
council
members
are
invited
to
join
us
and
I
want
to
hand
around
these
brochures
on
the
project,
for
you
spread
around
and
I'm
out
of
time.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
I
So
I
am
working
with
the
cities
for
CEDAW
to
help
get
Colorado
on
the
map
for
being
a
progressive
and
committed
to
supporting
equality
for
all.
As
a
woman,
I
am
passionate
about
closing
the
gaps
that
exist
on
so
many
levels
as
a
board.
Member
of
the
UA
I
am
passionate
about
providing
human
rights
for
all
individuals
and,
as
a
professional
I,
am
passionate
about
creating
policies
that
change
of
status
quo.
I
Currently,
women
account
for
half
of
the
population
but
hold
only
38%
of
management
positions
in
all
fields
and
only
point
zero
for
two
percent
of
Fortune
500
companies
are
headed
by
women
and,
as
we
all
know,
women
are
paid
less
for
the
same
work
as
men
on
average
20%
less.
For
absolutely
no
reason
the
pay
gap
is
even
worse
for
ethnic
minorities.
Fortunately,
here
in
Colorado
the
pay
gaps
a
little
bit
better.
I
We
have
about
a
14%
pay
gap
between
men
and
women,
so
becoming
the
cities
for
CEO
is
important
because
it
publicly
vocalizes
that
we
are
all
equal,
regardless
of
race,
gender,
religion,
class
and
others.
Intersectionalities
that
make
us
unique
I
urge
Boulder
to
join
the
list
of
Colorado
cities
who
have
signed
resolutions
and
then
to
pass
legislation
to
protect
the
rights
of
women
and
girls.
Let's
make
a
stand
against
injustice
and
provide
a
role
model
to
the
rest
of
Colorado,
the
United
States
and
the
world.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Wolf
Soper
I
live
in
downtown
Denver
at
attend
school
here
in
at
the
University
of
Colorado
in
Boulder,
as
such
I
want
to
talk
today
about
the
importance
of
transportation
connections
and
boulders
role
as
a
leader
in
ensuring
a
truly
regional
transportation
system,
as
the
Front
Range
grows
so
will
enter
community
travel
and
therefore,
congestion
projects
that
leverage,
efficient
use
of
regional
facilities
are
critically
important
to
accessibility
and
mobility.
J
The
flat
iron
flyer
bus
route,
using
us,
36
HIV
managed
lands
is
an
excellent
example,
one
that
I
see
twice
a
day.
As
some
of
you
may
know,
the
Denver
Regional
Council
of
Governments
or
dr.
cog
is
the
federally
mandated
organization
responsible
for
regional
transportation
planning
in
our
area.
Dr.
cog
also
directly
allocates
about
ninety
million
dollars
a
year
in
transportation
funds.
Dr.
cogs
project
selection
process
is
slated
for
a
big
change,
starting
in
2020.
Instead
of
a
truly
regional
process
that
advances
collective
and
creates
inner
municipal
commuting
options,
dr.
J
cog
will
be
experimenting
with
the
sub-regional
process
that
allocates
a
pro
rata
share
of
the
funds
to
each
county.
The
counties
and
their
municipalities
will
then
devise
their
own
project
selected
selection
methods.
I
understand
the
appeal
of
local
control
over
project
selection,
but
I
harbored,
deep
concerns
that
local
priorities
will
subvert
the
types
of
regional
transportation
project
which
makes
Boulder
accessible
for
long-distance
commuters,
like
myself
as
the
new
process
moves
forward,
I
urge
the
city
of
Boulder,
through
its
dr.
J
cog
representatives,
to
take
a
strong
leadership
position,
require
regional
planning
goals
to
be
a
component
of
the
sub-regional
process,
continue
to
work
with
communities
outside
of
Boulder
County
to
support
a
holistic
view
of
transportation
needs
and
remain
an
example
of
how
a
regional
transportation
system
can
benefit
local
governments.
Finally,
I
ask
that
the
city
and
its
representatives
watch
this
new
process
critically
and
carefully
and
be
willing
to
move
away
from
it
if
it
doesn't
work.
Thank
you
for
giving
you
this
opportunity.
Thanks.
A
F
C
A
K
All
right
good
evening,
as
stated,
my
name
is
Nathan
Hunt
I'm,
the
director
of
economic
justice
for
the
Interfaith
Alliance
of
Colorado,
and
one
of
several
co-founders
of
Colorado
village
collaborative
this
year.
Our
organization
built
the
first
tiny
home
community
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
state.
It
is
this
work.
I
was
asked
to
come,
speak
to
you
about
that
homelessness
is
a
crisis
for
Boulder
should
not
need
reinforcing.
It's
a
prime
topic
of
your
agenda
tonight.
K
What
I
want
to
emphasize
is
our
capacity
to
do
more
of
what
is
needed
with
the
resources
we
already
have.
Traditional
shelter
will
not
solve
the
disaster.
We're
facing
you
and
I
both
know
that
people
experiencing
homelessness
are
desperate
to
be
treated
with
the
dignity
they
deserve.
As
human
beings,
people
without
a
house
needs
somewhere
to
store
their
belongings
somewhere.
K
We
submitted
plans
in
March
began
construction
in
May,
and
residents
moved
in
exactly
two
months
later.
We
have
been
embraced
by
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
have
had
no
complaints
or
calls
to
police.
None
about
15
residents
have
dropped
out
or
returned
to
the
streets.
Twelve
of
them
now
have
jobs.
Tiny
home
villages
are
cheap,
quick
and
environmentally
sustainable.
They
offer
the
dignity,
empowerment
and
community
people
deserve.
We've
done
this.
We
have
the
knowledge
base
and
human
power
to
do
it
again.
In
Boulder,
you
have
the
power
and
resources
to
open
the
way.
A
L
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Lustig
lustrum
I'm,
a
boulder
resident
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
I'm
here
for
a
number
of
reasons,
but
most
importantly
I'm
here,
because
we
have
an
important
decision
before
us
in
the
community
with
respect
to
our
energy
future
and
whether
to
vote
YES
on
ballot
measure
2l
or
whether
to
vote.
No,
there
is
a
flyer
that
has
been
mailed
to
many
Boulder
residences
and
it's
misleading
in
two
very
important
ways:
I
have
a
full
PowerPoint.
It
will
be
sent
to
City
Council.
L
It
allows
to
be
available
and
empower
our
future,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
community
understands
that
the
flyer
they
are
receiving
in
their
mailbox
has
these
two
very
misleading
assertions
in
it?
The
first
one
is
that
somehow,
if
we
vote
no
on
ballot
measure
2l,
there
will
3
be
300
million
dollars
that
we
can
spend
on
solar
and
other
important
ways.
That
is
flat
wrong.
The
300
million
is
what
we
might
decide
to
do
a
few
years
from
now.
It
would
be
bonded.
L
It
can
only
be
done
if
we
have
a
source
of
revenue
and
if
we
decide
to
form
a
Municipal
Utility,
that's
the
very
first,
very
important
and
frankly
flat
wrong
and
misleading
assertion.
That's
made
in
that
flyer.
The
second
is
what
we
have
discussed
before,
which
is
the
effort
to
make
a
big
deal
out
of
the
blue
bars.
That's
utility
occupation
tax
that
will
be
accommodated
in
ballot
measure.
2L,
it's
a
little
bit.
L
L
Thank
you.
Farmers,
market,
happy
city
in
the
world,
love
the
small
potatoes.
They
are
amazingly
good.
The
big
red
bars
are
the
big
potatoes.
Those
are
the
costs
that
will
go
up
dramatically
if
we
stay
with
Excel.
Looking
at
10
to
14
percent
rate
increase
three
dollars
a
month
increase
approved
for
October
1st
bonds,
with
over
600
million
that
were
already
largely
responsible
for
these
are
all
documented
in
the
PowerPoint
that
will
be
available
either
through
the
City
Council's
email
or
Adam
power
at
future.
L
B
Pearl
mayor
Jones
and
Boulder
City
Council
and
staff,
I'm
veronica
rocky
from
boulder
county
and
colorado
cities
for
CEO
task
force
c
da
stands
for
the
convention.
Elimination
all
forms
discrimination
against
women.
The
u.s.
is
the
only
industrial
country
yet
to
ratify
this
treaty.
In
partnership
with
business.
Professional
women
of
colorado,
I
am
representing
United
Nations
Association
of
Boulder
County
I
would
like
those
humbly
ask
those
that
are
here
in
support
of
CEO.
To
please
stand.
Thank
you.
B
I
also
have
letters
of
those
that
were
struggling
with
communicating
electronically
and
I
will
hand
those
in
under
the
peace
operations,
division,
division
of
the
peacekeeping
and
stability
operations
Institute
as
the
US
Army
lead
for
women's
peace
and
security
cities
proceed
all
hits
close
to
home.
For
me,
the
work
I
do
here
and
within
my
own
community,
echos
exponentially
in
the
work
I
do
to
enable
soldiers
laying
component
forces
on
the
ground
in
the
implementation
of
applying
gender
dynamics
and
military
operations
in
conflict
areas.
B
Well
being
an
example
of
seeing
the
value
women
bring
to
the
peace
table
of
interest.
Last
week,
nearly
a
newly
formed
US
Women's
Caucus,
representing
non-government
organizations
to
the
United
Nations,
had
their
first
coming
out
and
they're,
focusing
on
Sita
and
a
national
implementation.
Just
two
weeks
ago,
the
president
United
States
signed
into
law
the
Women's
Peace
and
Security
Act,
which
requires
Department
of
State
US
aid
and
Department
of
Defense
to
take
action.
B
Last
month,
the
International
Association
of
office,
human
rights
agencies,
led
by
us
and
in
partnership
with
Canada,
signed
a
CDR
resolution
urging
its
members
to
support
immiscible
country
and
statewide
efforts
to
implement
policies
that
advance
gender
equality
and
principles
of
seed
off
on
top
of
all.
Today
is
un
day
it's
a
72nd
anniversary,
sustainable.
Don't
thank.
M
Rabbits
downtown
Boulder:
this
is
from
one
of
500
emails.
I
got
through
the
Colorado
Open
Records
Act
from
City
Council
candidate
at
burn
to
Councilwoman,
Jan,
Burton,
March,
31,
I,
wouldn't
vote
for
head,
but
good
for
him
quote:
I
had
the
very
unpleasant
experience
this
morning
of
watching
the
city
inspect
a
client's
five
flex
for
occupancy
violations.
M
Remember
this
inspection
was
not
based
on
a
complaint.
No
now
the
city
comes
armed
with
online
advertised
floor
plans
and
old,
burning,
building
permits
of
Middle's.
Looking
for
any
discrepancies
and
literally
counting
beds,
we
were
able
to
get
into
a
couple
of
the
lock
rooms
because
the
property
manager
was
able
to
open
the
doors
with
a
driver's
license
when
the
inspection
was
over.
I
wanted
to
take
a
shower.
M
The
government
has
no
substantial
and
compelling
reason
to
do
this
if
over
occupancy
is
placing
a
burden
on
the
reasonable
on
the
neighborhood
and
a
reasonable
complaint
is
lodged,
make
arrangements
for
an
inspection
get
a
warrant.
If
the
tenants,
don't
let
you
in
what,
if
a
rouse
sleeping
tenant
had
a
gun,
what
the
f
are
the
city's
inspectors
now
doing
in
our
name?
We
are
feeding
mr.
Carr.
That's
the
city
attorney
mr.
cars.
Pro
enforcement
beast.
He
will
not
check
his
own
instincts
during
this
initiative.
Unquote
you,
the
City,
Council,
also
fed
mr.
M
cars,
pro
enforcement
beast
with
an
extra
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
prosecute
and
imprison
the
homeless.
This
summer
now
helped
each
homeless
person
with
about
$500
cleaned
them
up,
got
them
off
the
streets.
None
of
you
objected
to
this.
Anyone
who
believes
a
word
of
the
city's
propaganda
about
being
kind
and
welcoming
needs
to
Google
D
you
Law
School
homeless
report.
Thank
you.
N
Steve
Pomerance
3:35
17th
Street
I
request
that
you
asked
the
county
clerk
to
not
count
the
votes
on
ballot
measure.
2Q
I
checked
with
them
yesterday,
and
they
have
a
procedure
for
this
I
believe
that
2q
was
put
on
the
ballot
without
sufficient
consideration
of
its
implications.
The
ballot
title
is
completely
inadequate
given
to
Q's
significance.
I
cannot
tell
you
how
many
people
have
contacted
me
to.
Let
me
know
that
they
were
totally
surprised
to
hear.
What's
really
in
it.
2Q
is
like
one
of
the
Republican
repeal
and
replace
efforts.
N
It
throws
at
a
very
clear
and
workable
municipal
initiative
procedure
and
replaces
it
with
total
uncertainty.
The
current
timeline-
that's
in
the
Charter
works
pretty
well,
so
why
change
it?
It's
way
more
functional
and
state
law
which
could
force.
You
went
to
holding
a
special
election
for
a
municipal
initiative
if
the
signatures
are
certified
by
early
June
or
allow
you
no
negotiating
time
if
the
signatures
are
certified
in
early
September.
N
N
Finally,
2q
puts
the
city
manager
in
an
impossible
position
because
of
all
a
discretion
that
is
granted
to
him
or
her,
no
matter
how
the
manager
sets
the
rules
he
or
she
will
be
under
enormous
pressure
from
various
groups
to
either
make
the
rules
easier
or
make
them
harder
and
for
each
initiative
that
pressure
may
change.
So
citizens
who
want
to
do
a
missable
initiative
will
get
caught
in
the
whiplash
again.
N
O
Hello,
my
name
is
Caleb
berry
and
I'm,
a
boulder
resident
I'm,
an
intern
at
the
United
Nations
Association
of
Boulder
County
and
specifically
do
work
with
Colorado
cities
for
Sita
I'm.
Also,
a
junior
at
cu-boulder,
studying
anthropology
political
science
and
leadership
regarding
social
and
environmental
justice.
I
have
grown
up
with
many
influential
powerful
women
in
my
life,
who
have
inspired
me
to
dedicate
myself
to
encouraging
all
women
to
find
their
voices
and
stand
for
their
rights
and
their
place
in
this
world
being
a
female
in
college
and
preparing
to
enter
into
the
professional
workforce.
O
It
was
a
key
moment
for
me,
where
I
am
personally
experiencing
a
lot
of
the
forms
of
discrimination
that
many
women
feel
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Right
now,
I
would
like
to
list
for
you
all
of
the
organizations
who
are
in
support
of
cities
for
Sita
and
are
ready
to
come
to
the
table
with
you
and
work
on
addressing
the
principles
of
Sita.
Our
supporting
organizations
are
the
business
and
professional
women
of
Colorado,
the
women's
collaborative
of
Colorado
Valley
Women's
Health
Center,
the
League
of
Women
Voters
Denver
Denver
for
Sita
Colorado,
eco
women.
O
He
for
she,
our
the
safe
house,
Progressive
Alliance,
for
non-violence,
laboratory
to
combat
human
trafficking,
the
voice
of
bird
business,
radio,
safe
shelter
for
st.
Vrain
Valley's
pride,
sanitary
pad.
We
can
international
Colorado
women's
Education,
Foundation,
1
billion
acts
of
peace,
9:00
to
5:00,
Santa,
foothills
club
of
builder
County,
moving
to
end
sexual
assault,
the
United
Nations
Association
of
the
United
States
of
America
Boulder
County
chapter
and
Denver
chapter
and
razing
of
America
Builder
County.
O
P
Omni
North
Boulder
resident
I
want
to
thank
the
UN
for
being
here
and
holding
up
the
civil
rights
of
everybody
and
I
hope.
You
guys
think
about
the
homeless
when
you're,
when
you're
thinking
about
that
not
only
women
but
homeless
women
I
want
to
follow
up
on
Nathan
about
his
talk
about
tiny
homes.
We
went
to
Portland
and
we
went
to
Eugene.
We
saw
all
these
beautiful
solutions
and
to
date
we
have
done
zero,
absolutely
zero.
P
That's
sad
on
October
8th,
we
had
snow.
Here
we
had
an
emergency
opening
in
the
numbers
that
were
sent
out.
They
said
it
wasn't
full,
but
I
was
told
differently
not
only
through
antidotal
evidence,
but
actually
somebody
came
to
me
and
told
me
that
they
were
turned
away
at
parsha
Congregation
Hashem
for
the
path
to
home
to
get
in
that
night
when
it
was
snowing.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
you
guys
know
this.
We're
gonna
have
people
die
because
of
what
we
have
set
up.
That's
on
your
hands.
I
will
hold
you
accountable.
P
It
looks
like
that.
We
have
more
of
a
diversion
than
we
have
helping
people.
Do
we
have
those
52
or
so
vouchers
in
hand
yet?
Well?
We
still
have
36
I'd
like
to
know
that
and
I
sent
you
all
an
email
and
not
one
person
responded
back
to
me.
You
are
servants,
we
put
you
there.
We
would
like
to
get
head
I.
Let
me
take
that
word
back
servants.
P
Q
Honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
City
Council,
my
name
is
Robert
McNown
and
I'm,
the
president
of
the
UN
Association
of
Boulder
County
and
a
resident
of
the
city
of
Boulder
I'm,
here
to
speak
in
support
of
the
petition
for
the
adoption
of
resolution
on
CEDAW.
As
some
of
my
colleagues
have
already,
it's
particularly
timely
that
the
City
Council
is
considering
this
petition
today,
which
is
United
Nations
Day.
The
United
Nations
has
adopted
17
sustainable
development
goals
to
be
reached
by
2030.
Q
One
of
these
goals
number
five
is
to
achieve
gender
equality
and
empower
women
and
girls.
The
vulnerability
of
women
and
girls
to
violence,
the
prevalence
of
sexual
assault
and
even
power
relationships
in
the
workplace.
Demeaning
treatment
of
women
and
pay
inequities
facing
female
workers
are
problems
that
have
become
particularly
prominent
recently.
These
are
not
specifically
women's
issues.
Q
R
Member
City
Council,
my
name
is
Frank
Walter
I'm,
a
proponent
of
renewable
energy
and
climate
solutions,
I'm
also
a
taxpayer
resident
of
Boulder
and
a
user
of
open
space
I'm
here
today
to
ask
the
city
of
Boulder
to
reconsider
its
aggressive
energy
and
climate
goals,
I
ask
not
for
reversal,
but
for
a
balanced
approach
to
setting
benchmarks.
For
example,
the
city's
goal
of
a
harbor
sign,
clean
electricity
by
2030
will
prove
very
costly.
R
R
Why
not
wait
to
pick
the
highest
hanging
fruit
until
it
is
more
economically
viable
to
do
so,
for
example,
when
battery
storage
is
more
cost
effective,
some
may
respond
that
Aspen
did
it.
Why
can't
we
that's
been
largely
achieved?
It's
one,
hard
percent
clean
energy
by
purchasing
renewable
energy
credits
from
distant
far
away
generators.
That
means
it
largely
draws
electricity
from
grids
connected
to
coal-fired
power
plants
and
relies
on
them
for
its
electric
service.
Citizens
of
Boulder
should
not
suffer
increase
costs
for
a
misleading
100%
renewable
label.
R
That
is
why
I
applaud
boulders
gold
to
me
new
supplies
and
generate
50%
of
its
electricity,
but
I
also
share
caution
about
that.
First,
the
public
does
not
want
vast
areas
of
open
space
plastered
with
solar
panels
and
wind
turbines.
In
addition,
a
grid
so
dependent
on
local
Sun
and
wind
will
not
be
reliable
without
reliance
on
fossil
fuels
to
mitigate
those
harms.
R
If
tea
new
civilization
occurs,
the
city
of
Boulder
should
integrate
a
limited
amount
of
natural
gas,
consider
buying
non-renewable
baseload
electricity
and
strongly
incentivize
distributed
generation
through
programs
such
as
net
metering
without
a
generation
cap.
In
conclusion,
please
balance
the
goal
of
greenhouse
gas
reductions
with
affordability,
reliability,
transparency
and
preservation
of
open
space.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
S
Good
evening
my
name
is
Peggy
Leach
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
League
of
Women
Voters
of
Boulder
County
I,
urge
you
to
support
resolution
12:19
and
part
of
the
United
Nations
Convention
on
the
elimination
of
all
forms
of
discrimination
against
women
called
Sita
in
1920,
women
gained
the
right
to
vote
in
the
US
after
decades
of
struggle.
As
you
can
imagine,
our
organization
has
a
strong
record
of
support
for
equal
rights
for
women
and
on
a
national
level.
The
league
has
supported
sita
over
the
years.
S
S
We
were
pleased
to
work
with
City
Council
on
the
living
wage
ordinance
which
benefited
low-wage
workers,
especially
single-parent
households,
which
are
disproportionately
women.
We
also
appreciate
other
city
ordinances
that
encourage
equity
within
the
community.
We
feel
that
city
council
can
take
another
positive
step
by
a
supporting
revolution
12:19
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank.
T
Honorable
mayor
Jones
and
fellow
councilmen
council
members,
my
name
is
Kay
Mayer
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
Zonta
foothills
and
speaking
in
support
of
the
CETA
resolution.
Co
city's
proceed
our
resolution.
Nearly
ten
years
ago,
the
Colorado
Legislature
joined
about
16
other
states
and
passed
House
Joint
Resolution.
Oh
eight
100.
Nine
concerning
support
for
Sita
also
called
the
treaty
for
the
rights
of
women.
T
In
this,
our
state
legislature
urged
the
US
Senate
to
ratify
this
treaty.
However,
as
of
now,
it
has
been
vetted
by
various
US
administrations
and
awaited
Senate
passage
for
over
37
years,
so,
as
with
other
sensible
ideas
that
are
stalled
with
the
US
Congress,
u.s.
cities
are
taking
this
up
with
cities
for
Saddam.
The
goals
are
to
adopt
and
implement
the
CEDAW
principles
at
the
grassroots
level,
with
the
hope
and
intent
that
some
day
the
US
Senate
will
also
come
around
the
city
of
C.
Boulder
needs
to
be
a
part
of
this.
U
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
I'm
glad
to
be
here
again
to
share
a
thought
with
you
about
these
emergency
warming.
Centers
in
shelters
when
I
ever
I
come
I,
always
go
back
to
religious
school
again.
So
at
the
end
of
Deuteronomy.
There's
this
message
and
it
says
that
my
father
was
a
fugitive
aramean
and
it
talks
about
how
these
ancient
Israelites
go
into
Egypt
and
are
oppressed
and
beat
up,
and
it's
terrible
and
somehow
with
God's
help
is
able
to
be
redeemed,
and
the
thing
that
I
want
to
share
with
you
about
that.
U
Is
that
part
of
the
reason
why
the
Jewish
community
in
Boulder
is
so
involved
in
the
homelessness
issue
is
because
of
that
memory,
a
spiritual
memory
of
being
fugitives
of
being
landless
of
not
having
a
safe
place,
and
that
is
something
that's
still
a
concern
for
us.
So
when
you
speak
about
the
emergency
warming,
centers
I
want
to
encourage
you
and
advocate
frankly
to
go
to
the
higher
level
for
more
consistent
nights
for
the
higher
temperatures.
The
faith
community
isn't
fatigued.
U
I
think
that
we
are
anxious
for
there
to
be
responses
for
people
who
are
the
most
vulnerable,
who
that
are
out
there
and
want
them
to
be
treated
kindly
and
with
dignity,
but
this
particular
version
of
the
emergency
warming
centers.
It
can't
be
the
long-term
solution
either.
I
know
that
there's
efforts
to
have
this
coordinated
approach
and
I
hope
that
it
works
and
I
think
it's
important.
In
fact,
it's
really
significant
and
it's
I
personally
believe
it
is
going
down
the
right
path,
but
the
emergency
sheltering
is
also
a
critical,
critical
component
and
I.
U
Think
more
needs
to
be
done
so
when
I
think
about
my
father
is
a
fugitive.
Our
man,
that's
in
real
life
too
and
I'm,
taking
the
fact
that
there's
a
part
of
my
ancestry
that
was
homeless,
not
just
talking
about
Egypt,
that
seems
so
far
in
to
us,
but
all
throughout
history.
Jews
have
been
Wanderers
not
by
our
own
choice
and
here
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
think
about
folks
that
are
the
most
vulnerable
among
us
and
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
A
Rabbi,
I
have
a
question
for
you:
okay,
well
I'm,
just
curious.
One
of
the
tradeoffs
is
to
not
create
a
parallel
system
to
actually
make
the
most
of
the
investment
in
helping
people
to
get
up
and
out
yeah
and
I.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
we're
wrestling
with
this.
How
do
you
make
sure
nobody
dies
on
the
street
yeah,
but
don't
create
a
parallel
system
which
kind
of
just
perpetuates
agreed.
U
I,
don't
want
a
parallel
system;
I
don't
want
something
else,
that's
not
connected
to
the
holistic
solution,
but
we
can
not.
For
me,
I
can't
ignore
the
fact
that
we
have
to
bring
people
together
to
get
them
to
find
those
solutions
and
to
provide
the
resources
as
whether
it's
elective
officials
or
faith
leaders
or
anybody
else
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
find
that
balance.
Now
you
have
the
power
of
the
purse
I
just
get
to
advocate
so
I'm,
not
jealous
of
where
you
sit.
U
Nevertheless,
I
can't
believe
that
it
has
to
be
an
either/or
I.
Just
can't
it
has
to
be
a
both
end
and
that's
hard
for
you.
Nevertheless,
I
think
that's
what
needs
to
take
place.
I,
don't
want
a
separate
parallel
system
and
I.
Don't
think
it
has
to
be
inconsistent
with
a
holistic
approach
to
getting
people
out
of
the
state
of
homelessness,
yeah.
A
A
V
Good
evening
City
Council,
my
name
is
Susie
boule
I'm,
a
boulder
resident
I
live
at
32
37
right
Avenue
in
Northeast
Boulder.
Tonight.
I
would
like
to
encourage
you
to
be
local
leaders
for
global
goals,
which
today
is
very
significant.
On
UN
day
the
celebration
of
the
Human
Rights
adoption
by
a
hundred
and
ninety
three
countries
in
the
world.
V
The
United
States
signed
as
well,
and
there
are
many
little
many
facets
to
becoming
a
local
leader
and
embracing
sustainable
development
goals
without
equal
rights
for
women,
for
example.
How
can
we
create
sustainability
today
this
evening,
I'm
also
hearing
about
more
about
our
homeless
crisis
or
issue
here
in
town
and
that
plays
into
the
role
as
well?
V
And
unless
we
have
everybody
at
the
table,
it
becomes
very
complicated
to
create
a
sustainable
system,
but
basically
my
request
for
you
as
to
adopt
resolution
for
the
cities
for
Cedar
for
Boulder
County,
and
keep
in
mind
that
you
are
elected
to
be
our
local
leaders
for
global
goals.
Thank
you.
Thank.
W
Well,
I'm
Nikhil
Mankato
I'm
from
Boulder
the
Deputy
Chair
of
the
city
of
Board
of
Human
Relations
Commission
speaking
tonight
on
my
own
behalf.
I
just
want
to
speak
in
support
of
resolution,
12
19,
the
cities
who
seed
our
project
and
I
will
agree
with
the
sentiments
expressed
by
everyone
else
who
spoken
and
I'll
just
give
a
little
bit
of
background.
That's
something
that
came
to
the
City
Council
through
the
Human
Relations
Commission.
W
W
That
I
think
is
special
and
I
want
to
commend
everyone
who
was
involved
in
that
was
sticking
with
it.
Additionally,
I
just
will
say
you
know
you
can
speak
to
a
lot
of
things
happening
nationally,
but
also
the
question
of
women
and
this
kind
of
push
back
against
progressive
values.
That
I
think
we
all
stand
for
in
the
city
is
so
strong
on
a
national
level
now
and
if
we
don't
push
back
and
act
locally,
whether
it's
changing
voting
districts
losing
the
Voting
Rights
Act
and
things
like
that.
W
D
No,
my
name
is
April
Simmons
I
grew
up
in
Boulder
I
own
grass
roots
landscape.
My
sister
Sharon
Simmons
wanted
to
be
here
tonight
because
she's
put
an
amazing
amount
of
heart
and
soul
into
this,
but
she
you
know
when
it
got
changed
she's
in
Egypt,
so
she
told
me
to
take
her
place
so
I
better,
get
it
right.
D
They
impress
that,
although
women
have
made
major
gains
in
honorable
oops
in
the
struggle
for
equality
and
social
business,
political,
legal,
educational
and
other
fields
during
the
past
century,
there's
much
yet
to
be
accomplished.
This
still
stands
relevant
today.
I
know
that
you
know
I've
had
some
of
my
customers.
My
friends,
many
people
in
Boulder
have
said
to
me:
do
you
think
there's
any
chance?
It
won't
pass
and
and
I
have
to
say,
I've
lived
in
Boulder
all
my
life,
it's
gonna
pass.
A
X
City
Council,
it's
a
pleasure
for
me
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Rosanna
Longo,
better
I
live
in
46,
84
southampton
circle,
and
I'm
here
to
speak
about
sida.
Why
is
this
touches
my
heart
because
I'm
an
immigrant
first,
so
you
know
personally,
I
know
that,
for
us,
immigrants
is
even
doable.
It's
harder
in
the
city
of
Boulder
I
have
been
serving
the
Latino
community
for
the
last
almost
four
years:
developing
spanish-language
Broadcasting
Service.
X
We
read
Spanish
publications
right
now,
I'm
doing
masters
in
Boulder
I
mean
the
University
of
Boulder
is
a
master's
in
media,
and
public
engagement
and
I
was
lucky
that
contain
you
and
the
League
of
Women
Voters
accepted
me
to
get
an
internship
there
and
my
obsession
to
tell
you.
The
truth
is
I
am
obsessed
about
equality
and
I
cannot
understand
why
in
Boulder
we
don't
have
it
and
I
cannot
think
about
any
other
magnificent
day
today
to
really
move
this
forward.
X
Not
only
for
you
know
those
that
ya
don't
have
the
same,
you
know
the
same
rights
because
the
either
they
don't
have
the
papers
to
work,
or
you
know
the
language
to
speak
and
I
will
personally
would
like
to
request
to
you
that
you
pass
on
this
ordinance
that
you
become.
You
know
besides
the
happy
City
Board
the
happiest
city
in
in
the
nation,
the
strongest,
the
equal
City.
A
Y
Just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
can't
respond
to
mr.
Palmer
ances
assertions
regarding
to
queue,
because
I
cannot
support
a
ballot
measure,
so
I'm
not
gonna,
say
anything.
That
I
will
say,
however,
that
it
was
a
product
of
the
council
Charter
Committee,
which
held
public
meetings.
It
was
first
discussed
at
a
May,
9th
2017
study
session.
It
was
and
the
the
memo
describing
it
was
published
and
made
available
publicly
on
our
website.
It
was
introduced
on
consent
at
first
reading
on
August
1st.
Y
A
A
C
How
could
you
tell
I
just
start
with
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda?
I
think
anybody
want
a
second
thank
you.
So
I'll
just
I'll
speak
to
a
couple
of
these
four.
So
thanks
to
everyone
for
coming
out
tonight
and
supporting
the
CETA
resolution,
I'm
excited
that
we
have
this
in
front
of
us
I'm,
appalled
that
our
country
hasn't
ratified
this
this
treaty,
but
at
least
we
can
do
our
part
here
on
the
local
level
and
just
want
to
share
a
personal
thing
here.
C
It
reminds
me
of
the
the
battle
to
pass
the
Equal
Rights
Amendment
back.
It's
been
many
years
ago
now,
but
this
was
something
my
mother
was
very
active
in
that
effort
in
passing,
the
e
ra
and
I
would
go
as
a
kid
with
her
to
rallies
and
I
was
the
whole
family
was
very
disappointed
when
that
was
never
passed
so
anyway,
it's
great
to
do
our
partners
municipality
to
support
moving
this
forward.
Z
Nakiya's
comment
about
how
acting
locally
matters
so
much
and
it
indeed
it
does
and
I.
Remember
that
the
Human
Relations
Commission
spoke
about
doing
a
gender
equity
study
and
at
the
January
2016
retreat.
We
spoke
about
it
and
indeed
the
gender
equity
study
was
carried
out
and
found
that
mostly
we're
doing
pretty
well,
but
there's
always
things
that
can
be
improved,
and
so
the
city
continues
to
work
on
that
improvement.
But
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
acting
global
I
mean
locally
does
make
a
difference
and
I.
A
And
I'll
just
I'll,
just
echo
that
I
had
the
I
guess
honor
of
going
down
to
speak
in
Denver
at
their
gender
equity
summit
and
present
the
results
of
our
gender
equity
study
and
yeah.
The
good
news
is
welders.
Doing
pretty
well
we're
one
of
the
best
cities
in
the
country.
I
think
we're
at
84%
sorry,
eighty
four
cents
on
the
dollar
what
women
make,
but
the
sad
thing
is
we're
not
on
par
I
mean
we're
not
men
and
women
still
don't
get
paid
equally
here.
A
So
yes,
there's
work
to
be
done
and
I
hope
you
unleash
all
your
good
energy
on
our
Senate.
They
need
to
do
their
jobs.
I.
Also
just
mention,
though,
also
in
the
consent
agenda
is
the
regional
housing
strategy
and
a
lot
of
folks.
My
colleagues
in
particular
participated
in
its
development
and
I.
Think
it's
worth
noting
that
it's
a
big
deal
that
we
are
moving
forward
collaboratively
with
all
the
communities
in
our
county
and
setting
and
taking
some
concrete
steps
towards
our
affordable
housing
goals
together
and
I.
A
C
Just
turn
on
that,
on
that
to
a
number
of
us
were
there,
there
was
a
lot
of
really
good
energy
in
the
room
on
working
on
our
affordable
housing
issues
and
it's
clearly
a
problem
we
can't
solve
by
ourselves.
So
I
was
really
excited
to
see
so
many
other
the
local
communities
being
willing
to
to
work
on
it
really
hard
as
well.
Z
C
AA
AB
E
AC
So
the
homelessness
strategy
of
the
city's
homelessness
strategy
was
approved
by
council
in
June
of
2017,
and
it
really
changed
the
approach
to
the
adult
homeless
services
system,
with
the
goal
of
really
making
this
the
system
more
effective
for
for
clients
to
enter
long
term
housing
more
quickly
and
to
get
the
more
unique
and
individualized
services
and
programs
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
exit
housing.
So
the
two
primary
ways
that
the
new
system
is
doing.
AC
This
is
through
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless,
which
will
be
providing
our
housing
focused
shelter
once
their
management
plan
is
through
the
process,
and
that
has
a
hundred
and
sixty
would
have
a
hundred
and
sixty
long-term
year-round
shelter
beds
for
our
higher
needs
clients.
And
then
the
bridge
has
path
to
home.
AC
AC
So
here's
a
here's,
a
chart
that
shows
in
the
past
what
those
severe
weather
triggers
have
have
been
in
the
past
just-
and
this
is
before,
of
course,
the
new
system
of
services,
so
boho
provided
shelter
every
night,
overflow,
shelter
every
night,
walk
up
on
a
walk-up
basis
between
November
15th
and
March
15th,
regardless
of
the
weather
conditions.
In
addition,
they
had
additional
weather
triggers,
which
you
can
see
on
the
right
during
other
days
outside
of
the
November
15th
to
March
15th
time
hoping
long
months,
you
can
see
their
weather
triggers
on
the
right
now.
AC
Longmont
is
also
starting
a
navigation
Center,
very
similar
to
the
city
of
boulders.
They
will
be
offering
up
to
50
additional
shelter
beds
with
navigation
services.
They
have
not
decided
at
this
point
whether
that
there
community
will
be
offering
any
additional
severe
weather
sheltering
then
the
severe
weather
shelter
network
in
the
metro,
Denver
area.
AC
AC
Is
also
starting,
a
navigation
Center
like
Boulder,
with
very
similar
services
and
programs,
like
the
bridge
house
path,
the
home,
it's
the
bridge
house
path
to
home
navigation
Center,
which
will
be
in
Longmont
a
similar
program
in
Longmont,
not
provided
by
bridge
house,
however,
so
be
very
similar
with
up
to
50
additional
short-term
shelter
beds.
They
have
not
decided
whether
they
will
be
offering
any
additional
severe
weather,
shelter.
AC
AC
AD
AC
So,
just
just
as
an
example
here,
October,
8th
and
9th,
we
did
have
some
some
winter
weather
that
came
in
a
path
to
home,
which
is
rich
houses,
navigation,
Center,
50,
additional
50
spaces,
39
of
theirs
their
spaces
were
utilized,
so
they
had
additional
capacity
that
was
unused,
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless,
151
of
their
160
beds
were
used.
Now
during
this
time
also
packed
home.
We
were
anticipating
a
higher
level
of
demand
and
Umbridge
house
path.
Z
AC
Beds-
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you!
Total
of
160
beds
there.
Yes,
so
there
was
unused
capacity
during
this
period
of
time.
This
October
eighth,
the
ninth
I'm,
not
sure
I,
know
Mike
had
said
that
there
were
people
who
might
have
been
turned
away
from
path
to
home,
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
circumstance
was,
but
but
Bridge
House
has
said
they
had
unused
a
significant
unused
capacity.
Now
there
could
be
a
number
of
reasons
for
that.
You
know
for
really
optimistic.
AC
We
would
say
you
know
some
initial
news
service
system
programs
and
the
way
it's
operating
might
be
help
helping
with
that.
But
it's
probably
also
likely
that
in
the
early
season
this
winter
weather
it
was
bookended
by
much
warmer
weather,
so
I
suspect
this
we'd
get
more
deeper
into
the
colder
season.
This
would
not
be
the
case,
but
it
was
the
case
with
these
two
days.
Karen.
AE
All
those
numbers
in
the
moment
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting.
It
was
very
helpful
to
put
in
perspective
how
difficult
would
it
be
for
your
team,
obviously
in
collaboration
with
Bridge
house
and
the
shelter
to
periodically
publish
that
not
only
to
council
but
to
the
community.
So
we
can
see.
AC
AE
AC
Can
definitely
do
that
now.
One
thing
also
to
note,
as
this
is
related
to
some
of
the
recommendations,
October,
8th
and
9th
I-
think
we
in
general,
the
lows
were
in
the
low
30s
with
several
inches
of
snow
accumulation,
but
there
was
also
a
National
Weather
Service
advisory,
which
would
have
triggered
opening
severe
weather
shelter
under
any
of
the
three
scenarios
that
are
identified
so
just
to
give
you
that
back
comparison.
AC
Because
bridge
has
packed
the
home
right
now,
currently,
temporarily
is
providing
the
path
to
home
navigation
services
at
three
faith-based
sites,
so
until
our
new
site
at
30th
and
Bluff
is
up
and
running
that
will
continue
so
faith-based
sites.
Yes,
we're
engaged
in
providing
the
regular
path
to
home
beds,
but
also
the
additional
50
spaces
that
we
thought
we
might
need
and
didn't
those
were
faith-based
sites.
Yes,.
A
AC
So
you
can
see
here
these
three
different
options,
one
which
was
is
based
just
on
National
Weather
Service,
the
variety
of
National
Weather,
Service,
advisories
warnings
and
watches.
There
was
about
20
additional
shelter
days
a
year
council,
September
19th,
when
we
were
in
front
of
council
wired
us
to
go
back
and
and
come
up
with
a
couple
of
other
options.
AC
So
there's
a
couple
of
other
options
here:
National
Weather,
Service
warnings,
watches
advisories,
but
that
variety
or
temperatures
at
or
below
20
degrees,
so
either
one
could
trigger
opening
an
additional
shelter
that
would
be
about
50
to
60
days
additional
during
the
sheltering
season,
which
is
October
to
May
or
another
option
is
one
and
two,
but
also
temperatures
at
or
below
32
with
snow
predicted.
That
would
be
about
60
to
80
days.
AC
So
what
the?
What
these
options
show
here
is
that,
for
those
very,
very
basic
days
of
additional
shelter,
those
20
and
number
one
coordinated
entry
would
not
be
required
at
any
time.
You
could
just
walk
up
to
the
shelter
each
day
that
there's
additional
shelter
that's
needed
and
there
would
be
no
requirement
either
that
day
or
the
next
day
to
go
through
coordinated
entry
options.
Two
and
three
highlights
that
coordinated
entry
after
the
first
day
would
be
required
so
that,
after
the
first
day
of
shelter,
people
could
go
to
coordinated
entry.
C
AC
F
AC
AF
Different
than
it
will
happen,
and
so
I
mean
the
question
is
people
frankly,
typically
transients
in
Boulder
want
to
do.
This
is
fine,
they
do
it
for
a
night
and
that's
that's
perfectly
reasonable.
The
question
is:
can
they
continue
doing
it
throughout
the
winter
and
choose
not
to
enter
the
system
we've
set
up
because
you
haven't
said
they
can't
you've
just
said
we'd
like
them
to
well.
AC
A
AC
AC
C
Things
not
for
clarifying
and
it
just
to
follow
up
to
pin
it
down
even
further.
So
so
we
require
them
to
participate
with
coordinated
entry
and
then,
let's
say,
there's
a
set
of
recommendations
that
comes
from
that
and-
and
they
say
well
actually
I'm,
not
so
interested
in
path
to
home
or
transition
better
or
whatever.
C
AC
AC
AC
There
are
probably
going
to
be
instances
of
people
who
who
are
residents
of
our
community,
who
are
going
to
need
help
and
they
may
come
back
a
week
or
two
weeks
later,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
hard
and
fast
rules
are
going
to
be
around
that,
but
we
would
like
to
engage
them,
get
them
into
services
without
allowing
everyone
who's
coming
into
the
system
to
the
through
severe
weather,
sheltering
to
not
be
engaged
in
getting
into
coordinated
entry.
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
some
exceptions
to
that
I'm
depending
on
the
individuals
need
and.
AC
A
A
A
AC
AC
E
E
Essentially,
what
meteorologists
do
is
look
at
a
combination
of
factors
that
roll
into
severe
conditions,
and
so
there
could
be
three
inches
of
snow,
for
instance,
at
one
point
and
there's
not
a
severe
weather
watch
or
a
warning
of
any
kind
and
another
day
with
a
different
set
of
combination
of
conditions
there
there
may
be,
but
there's
there's
not
a
there's,
not
a
direct
line.
You
can
draw
between
a
certain
number
of
inches
of
snow
and
a
warning
or
watch.
AD
AD
AD
AC
A
AC
A
E
From
a
realistic
standpoint,
you'd
want
to
make
the
call
you
know,
definitely
buy
the
night
before
historically,
when
boho
operated,
they
would
decide
very
early
in
the
morning
so
that
they
could
make
the
announcement
relatively
early
in
the
day,
but
generally
when
they
were
working
with
faith
communities.
There
was
that
you
know
that
discussion
beforehand,
but
obviously
that
this
was
probably
going
to
happen.
This
is
a
good
chance
that
this
might
happen,
but
in
our
communications
with
boho,
we
usually
tried
to
communicate
by
late
that
night
before.
AD
A
AC
That's
definitely
something
that
could
be
implemented,
so
this
is
just
another
way
of
looking
at
this.
This
is
the
estimated
percentage
of
additional
total
shelter
days
that
would
be
added
to
the
system
based
on
these
three
different
scenarios
and
then
on
the
right.
You
can
see
system
impacts
and
provider
and
client
impacts.
AC
So
the
more
days
that
we're
adding
on
an
unpredictable
on
an
unpredictable
basis,
then
the
harder
it
is
for
our
service
providers
to
staff
and
identify
sites
to
stand
up
so
I
think
to
get
to
your
point:
Jan
and
Suzanne
having
a
hard
and
fast
cut
off,
whether
it's
48
hours
or
36
hours
or
whatever.
That
is,
would
help
with
that,
and
so
then,
regardless
of
the
weather
conditions,
how
it
pans
out,
we
would
be
standing
up
those
additional
that
additional
shelter.
AC
AC
Z
AC
So
we
are
in
contact
with
the
service
provider,
who's
going
to
be
providing
it,
and
then
they
have
to
contact
their
staff
and
get
staff
scheduled.
Get
those
sites
scheduled
with
the
faith-based
sites,
get
the
communications
out
through
the
networks
and
communication
networks
and
get
everything
together,
a
very
short
short
notice
to
be
able
to
put
things
in
place.
AC
So
that
would
be
include
the
meal
at
the
faith-based
site
through
community
table
of
bridge
houses.
Doing
this
through
navigation
Center
and
expanding
those
beds
for
severe
weather,
shelter
or
if
the
shelter
is
providing
severe
weather
shelter.
We
don't
know
who
would
be
providing
it,
then
that
those
meals
would
be
with
the
service
provider,
and
they
would
be
organizing
that
because
we
don't
know
yet
who
will
be
providing
the
service
yep.
AC
AC
AC
It
is,
it
helps
maintain
the
integrity
of
our
new
system
of
services,
and
we
would
also
suggest
that,
as
we
as
the
new
system
of
services
unfolds
this
season,
that
we
evaluate
those
outcomes
and
what
the
demand
and
the
need
is
for
severe
weather
shelter
in
the
future.
So
we're
recommending
staff
is
recommending
option
number
two.
AC
A
So
I
have
a
quick
one,
you're
gonna
before
proceed
with
those
next
steps,
but
with
a
different
trigger.
So,
like
you
say,
you
hope
to
get
it
set
up.
You
were
already
planning
on
setting
this
up.
We're.
AG
A
AF
AF
How
how
serious
are
we
gonna
be
about
getting
people
into
the
system
we
hope
to
get
them
into,
and
how
will
this
not
be
a
parallel
system?
If
you
have
unlimited
numbers,
lots
of
days
and
no
absolute
requirement
that
they
get
into
the
system
if
they
choose
not
to
it
sure
sounds
like
a
parallel
system
to
me.
Well,
I.
Think.
AF
A
comment
that
the
album,
but
if
you
don't
want
a
parallel
system,
you
need
something
to
break
the
mode
of
the
parallel
system,
and
this
doesn't
do
it.
Unless
you
have
some
additional
mechanism
to
make
that
happen
and
I'm
still
hearing
you
is
saying:
yes,
we
should
have
it,
but
it's
not
clear.
We
will
and
we
haven't,
set
the
parameters
yet
and
was
still
working
on
it
and
who
knows
how
it
will
turn
out,
and
that's
a
little
disappointing
doesn't
help
me
kind
of
make
a
decision
here
tonight.
AC
AC
A
I'll,
just
put
it
out
there
I
think
that
that
is
laudable
and
it
makes
sense
to
try
not
to
create
a
parallel
system
and
really
focus
efforts
on
getting
people
up
and
out.
But
we
also
don't
want
people
to
die
on
the
streets,
and
so
we
just
have
to
acknowledge
that
those
things
on
every
now
and
then
they'll
be
in
conflict,
and
we
still
don't
want
people
to
die
on
the
streets
and
so
it'll
be
a
little
muddy
and
that's
the
way.
It
is
I
think
and
that's
what
it's
gonna
have
to
be
so.
AF
I'll
make
my
quick
comment:
no
I
mean
I
get
that,
but
it
doesn't
work.
We've
proven
it
doesn't
work.
That
is
an
unsustainable
system.
What
happens
is
Boulder
attracts
enormous
numbers
of
people
from
the
region
from
the
state
from
everywhere,
and
it
doesn't
work
doesn't
work
for
both
it
doesn't
work
for
any
community.
It
can't
work
in
the
long
run.
They
can't
even
work
in
the
short
run,
I
mean
the
reason
I
voted
for
the
previous
go-around
is
because
I
thought
it
was
a
package
that
we
go
to
this
other
system.
It's
not
perfect.
AF
Who
really
are
living
in
our
community.
Absolutely
and
I
think
we
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
that,
not
perfect,
but
pretty
good.
But
we
can't
do
that
job
for
everybody
in
the
region
in
the
state
in
the
country
who
comes
here,
because
we
provide
services
that
very
few
other
communities
provide,
and
that's
my
problem
and
I
think
this
will
be
a
parallel
system.
AF
It'll
be
more
days
it'll,
be
you
know,
I'm
not
holding
my
breath,
I'm
really
forcing
people
to
go
through
the
navigation
system
or
even
what
we're
going
to
do
with
them
after
they
go
through
the
navigation
system,
and
they
choose
to
stay
here
and
not
be
part
of
the
system.
So
that's
my
concern
and
I
would
just
like
to
see
that
happen
faster.
It's
not
about
money,
I'd
be
more
than
willing
to
put
more
money
into
the
system
that
works
and
certainly
into
housing,
and
certainly
into
transitional
housing.
AF
AF
You're
expecting
me
to
be
way
too
smart
and
I'm,
not
I.
For
me,
the
recommendation
is:
go
with
the
new
system.
Make
it
work,
you
know,
were
you
invested,
we're
investing
a
lot
of
money
into
it,
get
people
to
go
through
the
evaluations,
the
navigation
system
and
so
on.
If
you
want
to
have
at
least
for
this
year,
some
limited
amount
of
severe
weather
sheltering
I.
Think
that's,
not
unreasonable.
AF
I
would
limit
it
to
some
number
of
days
and
I
don't
have
a
super
strong
preference,
but
I
certainly
make
sure
that
people
are
required
to
enter
the
system
after
a
couple
of
uses,
let's
say,
and
that
also
we
are
serious
about
what
we
mean
by
navigation
systems.
It's
a
polite
word,
but
if
you're
not
serious
about
it,
you
just
stay
in
the
same.
AF
C
Yeah
I
appreciate
those
thoughts.
I
mean
I.
Think
we
do
want
to
be
careful
that
this
is
a
supplement
to
prevent
people
from
dying
on
the
streets,
as
n
says,
but
not
replacing
the
system
that
we've
carefully
set
up
with
checks
and
balances
and
with
the
new
homeless
strategy.
So
the
in
terms
of
some
service,
like
this
being
an
attractant
I,
thought
that
the
comparison
with
other
sheltering
facilities
in
the
region
was
instructive,
because
the
actually
I
believe
the
standards
in
option.
C
3
are
very
similar
to
the
stamps
that
are
used
in
other
shelters
in
the
regions,
such
as
the
severe
weather,
shelter
network
in
the
metro,
Denver
and
the
suburbs,
and
in
less
permissive
than
than
the
Hope
Center
in
Longmont.
So
I
don't
given
that
there
are
other
options
in
the
area
that
that
are,
you
know
as
open
as
much
or
more
I.
C
Don't
see
it
playing
such
a
big
attractant
role
so,
but
I
think
the
you
know,
the
imperative
here
is
is
to
not
have
people
dying
on
the
streets
when
it's
preventable,
so
I
do
support
the
the
option.
Number
three
that
the
staff
put
together
because
the
the
I
think
it's
important
to
have
a
precipitation
factor
to
it,
because
if
it's
23
degrees
but
there's
you
know
five
inches
of
snow,
but
it
doesn't
quite
hit
the
threshold
for
weather
service
warning.
That's
that's
a
really
brutal
night!
C
So
there's
only
a
few
a
you
know,
there's
a
modest
number
of
additional
nights
for
number
three,
but
I
think
it
would
be
worth
going
down
that
route,
but
I
wanted
to
support
what
Jen
said
before
about
strong
standards,
so
that
we
can
give
the
maximum
amount
of
predictability
to
our
faith-based
partners
and
so
and
I'd
encourage
us
to
get
those
in.
You
know
written
down
and
something
reliable
that
that
folks
can
depend
on
so
whatever
both
at
that's
24
hours
in
advance
or
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
it
is.
C
C
So
Karen
I
really
appreciate
the
points
you're
making
about
making
sure
that
this
ties
into
the
existing
system
that
we've
set
up
and
what
I
heard
you
saying
that
there
you're
still
figuring
out
how
that
would
interact
and
the
requests
that
I
would
make
is
if
we
go
down
this
route
is
to
as
you
work
to
put
that
together.
Maybe
we
could
get
an
information
packet
in
a
few
weeks
once
those
details
were
hammered
out
so
that
we
had
a
sense
of
where
you
were
going.
So
those
are
my
thoughts.
AE
I'm
gonna
join
Erin
and
supporting
option
number
three
I'm
incremental
II:
it's
not
a
lot
more
money
and
it
does
provide
greater
protection
and
I
agree
with
Erin's
the
comparison
of
option
3
to
some
of
the
other
services
up
and
down
the
front
of
range.
You
know,
I
get
your
point
Matt
about
the
parallel
system
and
the
risk
of
that.
But
the
nice
thing
about
this
is
this:
is
this?
Is
the
safety
net
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
core
system,
and
we
can
dial
all
this
up
and
dial
it
down?
AE
So
this
this
can
be
an
experimental.
If
we
find
that
we're
providing
too
much
service
tours
unnecessary,
we
can
always
Ratchet
it
back.
It
was
perfect.
We
quite
frankly,
staff
the
ratcheted
back
during
the
middle
of
the
winter
if
they
wanted
to
we're,
not
making
the
nothing's
can
be
cast
and
stone
here
and
so
I'd
I'd
err
on
the
side
of
providing
more
services
here.
Z
I
also
share
Matt's
concern
about
not
creating
a
parallel
system
so
that
we
do
have
to
be
firm
as
well
on
when
we
have
people
enter
into
the
navigation
services,
but
I
would
rather
give
us
our
cell
give
ourselves
a
little
bit
of
a
safety
margin
with
the
number
of
days
rather
than
I
suspect
that
if
we
chose
option
number
two
and
we
were
at
day,
61
we'd
be
scrambling
anyway.
So
that's
kinda
how
I'm
looking
at
it.
A
Okay,
I'll
jump
in
I
think
we're
headed
the
right
place.
I
think
going
from
having
four
months
of
overflow,
shelter
to
weather
dependent
will
be
a
big
step
towards
not
creating
a
parallel
system.
I
think
if
you
do
coordinated
entry,
I,
think
you're,
saying
by
the
second
or
third
night
somewhere
in
there.
That
also
makes
sense.
I
know
Matt
wants
it
soon
would
I
think
the
deal
is
to
be
firm
but
compassionate,
that's
what
we're
after
right,
so
I
guess.
A
The
other
thing
is
a
like
we're
saying
about
think
of
this
as
adaptive
management
right,
we
are
trying
this
new
program
out.
We're
going
to
you
know,
collect
data,
we're
gonna,
learn
from
it,
we're
gonna
adapt.
Accordingly,
it
makes
sense
to
me
that
we
have
a
study
session
on
this
and
I.
Don't
know
end
of
January
and
see
how
things
are
going
if
there's
tweaks
that
need
to
be
made
for
the
rest
of
the
season,
I
would
also
say:
I
would
encourage
Longmont
to
adopt
similar
measures.
A
I
think
we
should
maybe
see,
if
that's
a
conversation
that
would
make
it
make
sense
to
have
Metro
ride
so
that
everybody's
come
on
the
same
page.
On
that,
whether
then
people
are
running
around
trying
to
figure
out
which
city
is
the
best
option,
they
stay
in
the
city
where
they're
at
so
I.
Guess
that's
why
I'm
at
I
know
you
should
know
that
I
think
this
council
is
very
supportive
of
setting
up
this
other
system
and
really
investing
in
and
making
it
work.
A
A
AH
AH
This
is
my
big
concern.
I
did
want
to
say
that
it
won't
be
as
difficult
food
will.
Not
the
community
table
will
continue
anyway,
so
it
won't
be
as
hard
on
congregations.
I
am
sure
that
we
can
get
congregations
to
just
take
one
day
a
week,
so
they
know
that
they
will
be
on
call
one
day
a
week
and
that
will
make
it
work.
AH
AI
Don't
be
nervous,
we're
friendly
microphone,
my
name
is
Nancy
Jordan
I
used
to
live
in
Boulder
I
was
at
one
time
homeless
in
Boulder,
I
worked
for
boho
years
ago
and
I'm
not
homeless,
anymore.
Happy
to
say
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
I'm
glad
that
you
all
are
considering
the
number
three
option
and
that
you've
considered
it
all
very
carefully?
I
want
to
express
that
I'm
in
favor
of
you
know,
like
case
management,
and
then
you
know
going
through
resources.
AI
It's
important
to
me
that
you
know
based
on
what
I
know
of
the
homeless
community
what
I've
observed
over
the
years
and
what
I
know
of
the
people
is
that
there
are
very
broad,
very
broad
of
needs,
and
there
will
probably
be
a
very
broad
spectrum
of
goals
and
limitations
and
personalities
that
you'll
be
deep,
that
we'll
be
dealing
with
and
not
to
go
easy
on
people,
but
to
give
to
to
consider
the
individual
they're
dealing
with
when
they
do
that
and
to
consider,
rather
than
having
a
cookie
cutter.
Okay.
AI
Now
we
want
you
to
do
this
now.
We
want
you
to
do
that,
to
consider
all
the
diversity
of
the
people
that
we're
talking
about,
because
because
there
are
many
I've
seen,
people
be
incredibly
impressively
productive
and
you
know,
go
sleep
on
the
floor,
get
up
and
go
to
work
in
the
morning.
Something
I
don't
know
if
I
could
pull
that
off,
I
mean
that's
that's
really
hard.
A
Much
you
betcha
and
if
you
don't
mind
giving
your
name
to
Lynette,
that
would
be
great.
Okay.
Are
we
good
all
right,
we're
gonna
close
the
public
comment?
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
more
discussion:
okay,
all
those
in
favor
all
those
opposed,
okay,
great
so
I.
Think
with
that
we
are
joining
the
special
meeting
and
we're
going
into
a
study
session
so
I'm
officially
a
journeying.
This
special
meeting.
AB
F
L
A
A
A
AJ
Good
evening,
members
of
City
Council,
my
name
is
Bill
Cowen,
I'm
the
city's
principal
traffic
engineer
and
I'm
here
with
Susan
Connelly
who's,
the
deputy
director
of
community
vitality
and
a
host
of
other
staff
in
the
audience,
as
well
as
our
consultant,
all
of
whom
have
been
working
for
the
last
two
years
on
the
development
of
the
Chautauqua
access
management
plan.
Now
you
may
recall
when
we
briefed
you
on
this
project
in
April,
we
described
this
as
a
wicked
problem.
Z
AJ
It's
a
good
term,
a
problem
which
is
going
to
be
very
difficult
to
solve,
a
problem
for
which
many
of
the
solutions
are
probably
going
to
have
negative
impacts
of
their
own.
This
this
area
has
a
tremendous
demand
for
access.
It
is
not
an
easy
place
to
access
by
many
modes
of
transportation
and
has
very
little
parking
supply,
and
it
also
happens
to
be
a
landmark.
So
all
of
these
things
contribute
to
make
this
very
challenging
project.
So
I
am
extremely
pleased.
AJ
AJ
Issues
surrounding
access
have
existed
out
there
for
a
very
long
time
decades.
There
were
concerns
from
the
Colorado
taco
Association,
which
leases
the
property
from
us
concerns
from
neighbors
who
live
to
the
north,
about
the
impacts
to
them.
All
of
this
led
to
a
process
that
included
data
collection
over
lasts
over
the
summer
of
2016,
a
very
robust,
robust
public
input
process,
including
a
community
working
group
that
helped
advise
us
advise
us
on
the
layout
of
a
pilot
program
which
we
then
implemented
this
past
summer
evaluated
and
now
we're
here
tonight
to
discuss
those
results.
AJ
The
camp
has
a
vision
statement.
Essentially,
it
is
to
manage
demand
for
access
minimize
impacts
to
surrounding
neighbors
visitors,
cultural
resources.
Again,
this
is
all
of
these
things,
make
it
the
the
wicked
problem
that
it
is
just
a
reminder
of
the
components
this
operated
for
13
weekends,
June
3rd
to
August
27th.
There
was
free
park-to-park
shuttle
with
free
satellite
parking,
managed
paid
parking
in
the
Chautauqua
area.
That
was
at
a
fee
of
2
dollars
and
50
cents
per
hour,
which
is
about
twice
what
you
would
pay
in
the
downtown.
AJ
It
included
a
neighborhood
permit
parking
zone
to
the
knit,
with
a
in
a
neighborhood
to
the
north,
as
well
as
permit
only
parking
in
the
leasehold
area.
A
robust
transportation
demand
management
program
that
was
put
together
by
the
Colorado
taco
Association
and
our
goal.
Boulder
staff
subsidized
transportation
network
company
rides,
which
we
arranged
with
lyft
on
site
and
on
shuttle,
Ambassador
Program,
which
was
very
popular
and
very
helpful,
and
a
focused
marketing
and
communications
plan
which
helped
get
the
message
out
early
and
assisted
the
project
in
being
successful.
AJ
C
A
AG
AJ
AJ
This
shows
the
the
original
npp
pilot
proposal
and
the
area
which
was
not
included
because
residents
living
on
those
streets
specifically
asked
not
to
be
included
and
then
again
a
very
robust
TDM
program
that
are
one
of
our
goal:
bold
or
staff.
Chris
Hagelin
worked
on
with
the
Colorado
taco
Association,
primarily
a
carrot,
based
approach.
AJ
AJ
So
what
were
the
results?
So
in
terms
of
reducing
automobile
mode
share?
We
looked
at
transit
shuttle,
ridership
the
TDM
program
and
the
network
company
subsidy,
the
Proctor
Park
transit
ridership
was
amazing,
an
average
of
almost
900
daily
boardings,
almost
23,000
riders.
Through
the
summer
on
Saturday
August
8th,
there
were
almost
1500
people
riding
the
shuttle.
That's
a
third
of
the
people
who
were
trying
to
get
to
Chautauqua
this.
This
was
a
definitely
a
crown
jewel
in
the
pilot.
AJ
This
slide
shows
the
boarding
breakdown,
as
you
can
see.
Of
course,
the
majority
of
the
boardings
and
a
Lighting's
took
place
at
Chautauqua
at
baseline
in
10th,
with
the
next
highest
being
at
new
Vista.
That
points
out
how
important
that
parking
lot
is
to
the
program
and
then
another
14%
from
downtown
and
10%
from
the
C
Regent
law.
AJ
F
AJ
AJ
The
TDM
program
very
effective
again.
This
was
work
with
the
Colorado
taco
Association,
the
dining
hall
and
the
Colorado
music
festival
based
on
the
surveys,
a
14%
decrease
in
occupancy
vehicle
on
those
weekends
10%
of
the
people
using
the
shuttle
regularly.
This
is
were
strong
results,
the
transportation
network
company.
This
subsidy
was
a
dollar
25
per
ride.
In
the
first
half
of
the
pilot
to
try
and
increase
use
of
this
effort,
we
we
increased
the
subsidy
to
$2
and
50
cent
for
the
second
half
through
the
entire
summer
we
saw
66
total
lift,
rides.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
So
you
may
remember
this
graphic.
This
shows
this
is
something
we
showed
you
back
in
April.
This
is
what
the
the
streets
look
like.
These
red
dotted
areas
are
the
streets
that
would
meet
the
NTP
criteria.
They
had
over
75
percent
utilization
for
four
hours
on
it
on
a
particular
day.
That's
really
really
parked
up.
AJ
AJ
AJ
They
chose
not
to
be
in
the
NPP,
and
you
can
see
that
graphic.
You
can
see
that
point
here
as
well
this
and
what
I
would
ask
you
to
look
at
here
is
grant
place
north
of
Baseline
Road
and
the
streets
that
surround
it.
That's
the
79%,
that's
grant
directly
opposite
the
entrance
to
Chautauqua
and
then
the
streets
that
surround
it,
that
red
is
not
good
red
is
highly
parked
up.
This
is
the
average
peak
utilization
during
the
worst
time
9:00
a.m.
to
2:00
p.m.
so
that's
what
it
looked
like
in
2016.
AJ
Was
over
a
five
a
five
hour
period,
9:00
a.m.
to
2:00
p.m.
that's
the
average,
so
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
again
look
at
grant
place
and
ninth
Street
one
block
north,
where
it
says
47
percent
and
41
percent.
You
can
see
that
certainly
some
of
the
traffic
moved
up
there
and
again.
If
you
look
over
on
10th
Street,
it
was
58
percent.
Now
it
is
91
percent,
so
that
Street
certainly
saw
a
lot
of
parking
utilization.
A
AJ
A
AD
AJ
And
those
five
hours
would
be
are
pretty
consistent.
Those
are
the
worst
hours
of
the
day
and
then
at
the
bottom
you
can
see
the
the
numbers
first,
the
CCA
leasehold
previously
across
the
entire
leasehold,
that
was
a
63%
parking
utilization
afterwards
42%
parking
utilization,
so
enforcement
was
an
important
component.
Of
course,
we
averaged
almost
50
violations
per
day,
the
majority
of
it
being
in
the
two
neighborhood
areas,
North
npp
and
in
the
leasehold
they
were
almost
1300
parking.
Citations
issued,
84%
of
them
were
for
lack
of
payment.
AJ
Lack
of
permit
the
others
would
have
been
for
your
more
typical
violations.
Parking
too
close
to
a
driveway,
not
having
appropriate
license
plate
so
forth,
and
less
than
20%
of
them
are
made
unpaid.
As
of
October
ninth-
and
that
was
an
important
statistic,
because
we
were
concerned
that
with
so
many
people
coming
from
out
of
town,
it
might
just
not
pay,
they
might
just
crinkle
it
up
and
throw
it
away.
That
was
not
the
case.
These
numbers
are
very
consistent
with
parking
violation,
pay
rates
across
the
rest
of
the
city.
AJ
There's
a
very
I
think
our
prior.
What
our
prior
data
had
said
was
that
about
a
third
of
the
people
came
from
Boulder.
Another
third
came
from
Boulder
County,
Front
Range
and
then
another
third
came
from
even
more
remote
than
that.
So
quite
a
few
people
coming
and
maybe
thinking
they
might
not
have
to
worry
about
parking
enforcement,
but
still
they
paid.
AJ
So
in
terms
of
reducing
the
automobile
and
pedestrian
conflict,
we
looked
at
crosswalk,
yielding
compliance
and
speed
and
volume
on
baseline,
so
the
crosswalk
where
the
bus
stopped
at
at
Kings
gate.
We
saw
a
forty
five
percent
increase
in
the
pedestrian
crossing
volume
and
thirty
percent
of
those
pedestrians
were
that
transit
users,
as
you
would
expect.
That's
the
main
reason
why
there
was
so
much
additional
crossing
their
compliance
at
that
crosswalk
increased
from
seventy
four
percent
to
ninety
five
percent.
95
percent
compliance
is
really
good.
AJ
We
do
not
see
95
percent
compliance
at
a
lot
of
crosswalks
in
the
city
of
Boulder,
so
we
were
very
pleased
to
see
that
number.
The
crosswalk
up
at
the
main
entrance
also
increased.
It
was
a
more
it
was
a
smaller
increase,
but
it
was
already
up
in
the
ninety
percent
category.
So
at
both
of
these
main
crosswalks
entering
the
city,
we've
got
over
ninety
percent
compliance
traffic
volume
and
speed
data
here
was
a
little
less
compelling.
Traffic
volumes
stayed
in
the
9,000
vehicles
per
day.
AJ
Range
speeds
actually
look
like
they
are
higher
in
the
after
condition.
That
is
important
to
note
that,
after
this
was
completed
after
the
data
collection
was
completed
and
based
on
an
entirely
different
speed
limit
evaluation
that
we
had
performed.
We
changed
the
speed
limit
on
that
roadway
from
30
to
25,
and
so
these
are
certainly
things
that
we're
going
to
be
monitoring
going
forward,
and
especially
the
speed
on
that
roadway
and
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
people
are
not
speeding
in
this
area.
That
has
such
a
high
pedestrian,
hey.
AJ
AJ
We
will
certainly
want
to
collect
more
data
and
and
continue
to
monitor,
that
going
forward.
It's
also
possible
that-
and
this
is
certainly
something
that
we
heard
from
some
people-
that
that
number
is
real
and
that
what
we
saw
is
that
or
what
people
may
have
been
doing
is
driving
up
to
the
Chautauqua
site,
realizing
that
they
need
to
pay
for
parking
and
then
turning
around
and
driving
back
and
catching
the
shuttle.
And,
if
that
were
happening,
we
would
expect
over
time
that,
as
the
message
got
out,
that
would
stop.
A
AJ
Of
course,
we
were
also
interested
in
trail
visitation
how
it
was
not
our
goal
to
negatively
impact
trail
usage.
We-
and
there
was
some
concern
that
by
providing
a
shuttle,
we
might
make
it
a
lot
easier
and
that
and
that
there
would
be
a
lot
more
people
using
the
trails.
There
was
concern
that
by
charging
for
parking,
we
would
chase
people
away
and
there
would
be
a
lot
fewer
people
using
the
trails.
AJ
This
is
the
data
that
open
space
mount
the
preliminary
data
that
open
space
in
mountain
parks
was
able
to
provide
to
us
from
a
survey
that
they
did
on
their
trail
heads.
These
are
very
modest
reductions
in
usage,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
that
the
trail
had
the
main
trailhead
was
actually
under
construction
proportion
of
the
summer.
So
we
would
expect
that
some
portion
of
that
reduction
is
actually
from
that
rather
than
from
the
pilot
program.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
We
definitely
heard
you
when
we
were
discussing
the
budget
for
this
project,
to
try
and
be
as
fiscally
prudent
as
possible,
and
we
were
able
to
keep
our
expenses
down
and
spend
approximately
$60,000
less
than
we
had
budgeted.
We
also
had
$40,000
of
additional
revenue
more
than
we
had
anticipated.
So
the
financial
picture
for
this
program
was
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
better
than
we
had
thought
it
would
be.
AJ
So
we
look
at
all
of
those
factors,
especially
as
they
pertain
to
our
goals,
and
we
think
that
this
has
been
an
extremely
successful
pilot,
but
there
there
certainly
were
concerns
that
were
raised
and
and
you've
seen
some
of
them
in
emails
that
have
been
provided
to
you
this
week,
residents
on
9th
Street
concerned
about
the
transit
service
and
the
impacts
from
that.
From
a
noise
perspective,
particularly
there
were
visitors
who
were
had
understandable
concerns
about
accessible
access
and
the
handicapped
parking
spots
couldn't
be
located
near
the
the
pay
kiosks
and
how
challenging
that
was.
AJ
AJ
But
they're
gonna
go
hike
through
mouth,
yes,
I
would
have
done
the
same
thing,
so
there
were
definitely
issues
with
visitors.
Downloading
the
the
park
mobile
smartphone,
app
and
again
we
were
very
reliant
upon
that
application
because
we
could
only
put
pay
key
in
certain
locations
and
so
having
that
not
perform
as
well
as
we
hoped
was.
This
challenges.
AE
H
H
AE
AG
H
Far
as
we
know
a
variety
of
reasons,
sometimes
it
was
the
phone
age
of
the
phone.
What
was
on
it
its
ability
to
to
download
apps
for
some
people,
or
we
also
are
told,
as
we
reached
out
each
week
to
the
provider,
a
lot
of
usage
in
certain
physical
space
at
the
same
time
was
stressing
the
system.
So
we
have
a
number
of
ways.
We
think
it
could
be
improved
for
next
summer.
Knowing
that
result
and.
AJ
AJ
Then,
of
course,
you
know
there
were
concerns
from
people
about
having
to
pay
at
a
park.
I
mean
with
this.
This
project
was
not
without
people
expressing
that
concern
again.
You
may
remember
that
I
that
when
we
briefed
you
on
this
before
I
said
this
could
be
really
contentious
and
you
should
go
into
it
with
your
eyes
wide
open.
We
were
really
surprised
at
how
how
many
people
were
supportive
of
this
versus
how
few
came
out
to
complain
about
it.
Couldn't
have
been
happier
to
be
wrong.
What.
AD
H
AJ
So
as
we
completed
our
evaluate
the
pilot
and
our
evaluation,
we've
started
to
contemplate
what
preliminary
recommendations
we
might
want
to
make
going
forward
and,
of
course,
we
relied
heavily
on
the
data
collection
and
analysis.
We
also
had
a
community
questionnaire
which
the
results
are
in
your
your
packet,
but
again,
a
major
finding
of
that
questionnaire
was
just
how
much
support
there
was
for
the
pilot
program.
This
summer
we
had
did
stakeholder
debrief
with
Chautauqua
and
with
the
neighborhood
to
the
north
and
got
very
positive
feedback
from
them.
AJ
There
were
people
who
had
opted
into
a
public
email
group
and
were
receiving
notifications,
and
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
from
from
them
and
then,
of
course,
we
did
a
Charette
with
the
Colorado
Chautauqua
Association,
because,
as
we
sit
here
tonight,
we
wanted
to
be
absolutely
on
the
same
page
with
them
and
we
developed
our
recommendations
in
concert
and
we
believe
we
are
and
then,
of
course,
we
took
advantage
of
the
fantastic.
What's
a
boulder
open
house
that
occurred
recently
and
had
a
booth
there
and
and
got
feedback
there
as
well.
AJ
AJ
We
and,
of
course
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
need
to
work
out
is
so
when
do
we
have
access
to
these
parking
lots
and
which
weekends,
which
weekends
will
we
have
access
to
these
parking
lots,
and
do
we
want
to
run
a
program
that
maybe
only
has
access
to
C
Regent
lot
for
a
couple
of
weekends
and
then
has
access
to
new
Vista
for
the
rest
of
it?
I
mean
these
are
all
details
that
we're
going
to
need
to
work
out.
But
at
this
point
that's
our
preliminary
recommendation.
AJ
AJ
We
starting
later,
hopefully
allows
a
little
bit
less
noise
impact
in
that
earlier
morning
time.
Another
consideration
there
is
that
we
are
confident
that
we
can
incorporate
into
the
contract
for
service
going
forward
a
cleaner,
less
noisy
bus
service,
and
we
hope
that
that
will
also
help
mitigate
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
being
raised
there
from
a
TNC
standpoint.
I'm
sorry
bill.
AG
So
via
recently,
if,
if
the
award
to
be
awarded
the
contract,
they
recently
received
three
clean
diesel
vehicles
and
they've
retired.
The
three
2004
vehicles
that
were
used
quite
a
bit
on
this
route
and
they
were
the
oldest
buses
in
their
fleet.
And
so,
if
they
were
to
be
the
operator,
we
think
that
would
alleviate
a
lot
of
the
noise
concerns.
The
Clean
Diesel
buses
are
much
quieter
and
obviously
emit
less
than
than
the
current
fleet
had
over
the
summer.
So
I
think.
AG
If
we
would,
we
would
be
able
to
guarantee
that
and
they
would
make
a
good
effort
to
put
those
newer
vehicles
on
the
route,
because
we
have
the
flexibility
to
do
that
in
the
summers
with
the
lower
peak
vehicle
requirements
for
the
hop
during
the
summers,
and
then
we
also
would,
in
the
contract
for
the
RFP
prioritize
any
vendor
that
would
propose
on
the
service
that
that
would
be
prioritizing
cleaner
vehicles
and
and
less
noisy
vehicles.
Great.
AG
Z
Question
about
routing
you
know
when
you
put
up
the
slide
up
there,
the
the
amount
of
views
from
downtown
and
ninth
and
college
was
a
lot
lower
than
from
new
vistas.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you've
considered
looking
at
the
hop
route
and
perhaps
adjusting
it
a
little
bit,
I,
don't
know
what
you
could
do,
but
to
consider
the
fact
that
there's
a
lot
less
traffic
from
downtown
coming
up
or
a
lot
fewer
users
from
downtown
coming
up
to
Chautauqua
and
how
that
might
affect
your
decisions
in
the
future.
Yes,.
AG
C
A
follow
up
here
on
the
numbers,
so
the
15
percent
of
the
total
boardings
were
downtown,
but
that
includes
people
going
back
right
correct.
So
if
you,
if
you're
thinking
about
what
percentage
of
the
total
origination
trips
we're
downtown
to
be
closer
to
30%,
if
I
understand
them
correctly,
that's
almost
a
third
of
the
people
going
to
show
taco
we're
warning
downtown
yeah
in.
AJ
AD
AD
Cuz
I've
heard
that
a
lot
of
people
kind
of
used-
it
is
downtown.
You
know
hopping
from
one
place
to
another,
and
you
know
that
the
noise
of
the
diesels
is
a
big
concern
and
I've
always
wondered
when
I
see
them
empty.
If
it.
If
you
couldn't
try
to
figure
something
out
like
a
big
van
on
the
ninth
Street
round,
that
could
go
more
often
and
if
that
wouldn't
provide
you
with
enough
ridership,
and
that
would
certainly
take
a
lot
of
cost
out.
It's
something
that
you
considered
at
all.
Yeah.
AG
AJ
That
another
consideration
is
that
I
mean
there
were
times
of
the
day,
especially
coming
up
from
new
Vista,
that
that
bus
was
full
so
and
you
got
to
use
the
same
vehicle
or
you
get
into
the
turnaround
issues
that
that
Natalie
was
mentioning.
So
if
we
were
to
transition
to
smaller
vehicles,
we'd
have
to
run
it
more
frequently
and
if
you
were
to
run
it
more
frequently
than
well,
there
would
be
issues
with
not
having
the
larger
bus
available
at
the
times
when,
when
you
had
the
highest
ridership
got.
AE
A
related
question:
did
you
I
know
you
said
the
average
ridership
was
882
per
day.
Did
you
segment
those
by
our
seven,
eight,
eight
to
nine
so
on
and
so
forth,
because
I
know
that
one
of
the
complaints
that
some
of
the
neighbors
were
they
lot
of
the
75
buses
were
pretty
empty.
You
know
I
see
you've
given
up
to
7
o'clock
hour,
which
probably
makes
sense,
but
you
have
the
stats
on
that
yeah.
AJ
AJ
Well,
let
me
yeah,
let
me
just
go
back
to
this
graphic
here,
because
I
was
almost
about
to
get
to
the
thing
that
answered
your
question:
the
transportation
network,
companies,
the
lift
subsidy,
we're
thinking
that
this
can
be
a
bridge
for
the
shuttle
service,
and
so
what
we're
thinking
we're
gonna
propose
is
that
there
would
be
free
rides
in
the
hours
before
and
in
the
hours
after.
The
shuttle
service,
specifically
from
the
region,
parking
lot,
which
is
the
least
used
parking
lot
up
to
the
site.
AJ
So
if,
for
instance,
your
Colorado
dining
all
employee
and
you'd
love
to
use
the
shuttle
so
that
you
could
take
advantage
of
the
TDM
benefits.
But
you
have
to
be
your
shift
starts
before
the
shuttle
is
going
to
start.
This
would
be
an
option
for
you
to
lift
up
work,
your
shift
and
then
take
the
shuttle
back,
and
we.
AE
AJ
AE
AK
Recycling
senior
transportation
planner,
so
there
are
a
variety
of
ways
in
which
we
can
prevent
that
through
the
use
of
codes,
so
employees
could
have
specific
codes
so,
but
we
definitely
want
to
offer.
The
TNC
rides
is
kind
of
that
guaranteed
ride
home
before
and
after
the
shuttle
operations.
But
then,
during
the
shuttle
operations
there
still,
we
would
subsidize
TNC
rights
for
those
that
want
that
door-to-door
service.
We
know
that
some
people
go
to
the
dining
hall
and
they
don't
have
the
physical
ability
to
walk
distances.
AJ
Just
a
couple
of
other
preliminary
recommendations,
the
neighborhood
permit
parking
that
was
free
during
the
pilot.
We
would
expect
that
moving
forward
as
we
transitioned
into
a
program
that
that
would
be
a
paid
permit
along
the
lines
of
whatever
permits,
are
ultimately
going
to
be
determined,
the
right
rate
to
charge
the
payment
system.
AJ
You
know
previously,
five
kiosks
were
thinking
that
we
would
add
to
and
that
we
would
pursue
one
of
them
being
closer
to
the
dining
hall.
Also
that
we
would
install
cradle
points
which
are
technology,
a
device
which
greatly
expands
the
the
capability
of
making
that
connection
for
for
the
park
mobile
app.
So.
C
AJ
In
terms
of
next
steps
after
we
depart
here
with
your
feedback,
we'll
finalize
our
recommendations
and
then
we
will
start
our
tour
of
the
boards
and
we'll
start
with
open
space
board
of
trustees
on
November
8th,
and
we
anticipate
being
back
before
you
in
the
first
quarter
of
2018.
With
our
final
recommendations
and.
AJ
We
will,
of
course,
need
to
there
are
a
number
of
ordinances
that
will
have
to
be
either
permanently
modified
or
modified
with
some
sort
of
Suns
at
that
time.
They'll
need
to
come
before
both
tab,
open
space,
Board
of
Trustees
and
yourselves
and
then
I.
Think.
A
key
part
of
our
recommendation
again
at
this
point
is
that
we
would
like
to
transition
from
a
pilot
program
to
a
program,
and
we
think
that
we
could
implement
a
set
of
recommendations
and
just
let
that
program
run
for
a
series
of
years.
AJ
We're
recommending
five
at
the
moment
that
would
allow
us
to
that
would
allow
the
city
to
complete
its
neighborhood
permit
parking
evaluation,
which
in
turn
could
influence.
The
development
of
the
final
plan
would
also
allow
the
open
space
Board
of
Trustees
or
the
open
space
in
mountain
parks
department
to
complete
their
master
plan
and
then
subsequently
complete
their
their
site
specific
plan
for
the
Chautauqua
area.
We
think
that
both
of
those
projects
could
influence
the
final,
which
is
a
coax
management
plan,
and
so
we
would
wait.
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
We
feel
like
we're
at
a
point
where
we
could
stop
doing
that
and
we
could
operate
the
pilot
report,
some
fairly
basic
metrics
back
to
you
on
an
annual
basis,
perhaps
through
an
IP
or
or
similar
notification
process.
That
would
be
the
primary
difference
between
continuing
to
pilot
and
having
it
just
be
a
program.
T
AD
A
Okay,
so
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
is
very
impressive,
is
you
guys
really
studied
and
tracked
and
provided
good
data
I
understand,
counting
every
car?
That's
parked
in
this
neighborhood
over
to
you
know
like
we
don't
have
to
I
could
totally
see
scaling
back
on
the
level
of
data
or
the
intensity
of
data
gathered,
but
you're
gonna
want
to
track
some
metrics
so
speak
to
that
which,
if
even
if
we
said
hey,
consider
it
a
pilot
for
another
year.
But
these
are
the
important
metrics
to
keep
tracking
I'm
just
curious,
yep.
AJ
So
so
the
most
time,
intensive,
financially
intensive
component
is
evaluating
parking
utilization
and
there
isn't
really
a
elegant
way
to
step
back
from
that,
I
mean
the
the
the
value
in
collecting.
That
data
is
that
you
get
enough
for
it
to
be
relevant
and
we
we
actually
scaled
back
in
the
amount
of
data
that
we
collected
in
2017
compared
to
the
amount
we
collected
in
2016
I.
Don't
think
we
would
choose
to
recommend
scaling
back
any
further
than
that,
and
that
was
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that.
AJ
A
AJ
A
There
a
way
to
scale
back
on
the
amount
of
money
being
paid
to
study
this
and
still
call
it.
A
pilot
I
mean
to
me
the
thing
about
putting
something
in
place
for
five
years
is
you're
kind
of
saying
yeah.
This
probably
be
permanent
versus,
saying
hey.
This
was
a
really
good
first
year.
Well,
let's
keep
going
with
it,
but
let's
not
spend
as
much
money
tracking
every
day
in
car
that
gets
parked
so
I'm,
just
contrasting
those
two
approaches
and
maybe
I'm
looking
at
it
the
wrong
way.
No.
AJ
I
mean
I,
think
you
could
you
could
do
that
I
mean
we've.
We
really
feel
like.
We
think
we're
ready
to
transition
from
pilot
to
program,
but
I
think
the
key
consideration
here
would
be
just
how
much
staff
time
and
how
much
City
dollars
wind
up
getting
a
loved
8
and
allocated
to
the
evaluation
and
piloting
of
this,
because
it's
it's
been
pretty
intensive
so
far
and
we'd
like
it
to
be
a
lot.
We
think
we're
ready
to
be
a
lot
less
than
that.
Okay,.
A
AJ
AJ
A
A
Okay,
because
to
me
I
would
want
hang
out
I,
don't
want
to
I'm
monopolizing,
but
yeah,
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
I'm,
not
sure
I
mean
we're
setting
a
precedent
here
with
regard
to
open
space
that
I
don't
know
that
we're
ready
to
set.
But
it's
been
successful
here
and
it
feels
like
we
want
to
continue,
but
I'm
fine
with
us,
not
counting
to
the
degree
we've
been
counting
so
I,
don't
know,
that's
where
my
head's
at
at
the
moment.
We
have
two
people
that
want
to
ask
questions
on
this.
A
A
H
Z
So
for
any
gap,
there
would
have
to
be
some
sort
of
revenue
to
make
up
that
gap
short
of
raising
the
parking
fees
to
twice
as
much
or
whatever.
Yes,
I
have
another
question
about
the
neighborhood
parking
program
update
and
Susan
and
I
had
a
brief
conversation
regarding
a
new
policy,
perhaps
to
be
added
that
adds
trail
heads
as
one
of
the
criteria
for
putting
a
new
neighborhood
parking
programs.
Is
that
part
of
what
still
needs
to
be
studied,
or
do
we
know
enough
about
that?
Z
He
had
mentioned
to
me
that
there
there
was
a
new
Vista
couldn't
provide
the
asphalt
parking
and
that
there
was
going
to
need
to
be
some
grassy
area
that
was
applied
to
the
parking
area
and
that
that
was
an
I
didn't
know.
If
that
was
a
what
ended
up
happening
or
not,
but
if
it
did
happen,
there
was
a
receiving,
as
in
re
ceed
ing
for
the
grassy
area
that
they
were
going
to
require
and
I
was
just
curious
to
know.
If
that
had
been
necessary
or
not
so.
AJ
I
think
our
pilot
program
showed
how
important
it
is
to
have
access
to
the
new
Vista
parking
lot
for
at
least
a
portion
of
the
summer.
We
have
heard
we
have
requested
from
the
school
district
to
have
access
to
their
parking
lot,
and
we
have
heard
back
from
them
that
they
are
will
integrate
to
allow
us
to
lease
that
parking
lot
for
next
summer,
they're,
understandably
not
committing
to
multiple
years.
They
only
lease
a
year
at
a
time,
so
our
access
to
that
would
would
obviously
be
a
year-to-year
consideration
and
I.
AJ
Think
at
some
point
we
would
want
to
consider
you
know:
is
there
a
way
to
secure
more
permanent
access
at
that
point?
If
we
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
long-term
program,
perhaps
some
cooperative
agreement
with
the
school
district
and/or
see
you
to
have
some
some
parking
at
that
location,
but
we
have
at
least
for
this
coming
summer,
access
to
their
parking
lot.
We
would
not
have
to
build
a
separate
temporary
parking
lot
and
then
recede
it.
Last
summer,
when
it
looked
like,
we
were
not
going
to
have
access
to
it.
AJ
Z
That's
good
to
hear
because
it
was
gonna
be
really
expensive.
Yes
and
then
you
know
finally,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
one
of
the
things
that
hasn't
really
been
talked
about
here,
which
is
how
unbelievably
pleasant
it
was
to
be
in
the
leasehold
area.
It
was
so
much
quieter
and
just
generally,
just
a
really
wonderful
place
to
be
in
so
I
think
that
was
a
very
well
kept
secret
or
result
of
this
whole
process.
So
thank
you
for
that.
AF
Real
question,
which
is,
do
you
have
any
idea?
I
mean
it
relates
to
a
comment
I'll
make.
But
this
is
a
real
question:
do
you
have
any
idea
of
the
people
who
use
the
bus
and
the
people
who
paid
for
parking?
These
are
really
kind
of
two
different
questions.
How
many
of
them
are
residents
of
the
city
versus
how
many
of
them
were
not
I
mean
you'd
have
to
literally
ask
people
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
we
did
any
of
that
just
to
get
a
sense
of
of
the
answer.
H
AG
We
from
the
questionnaire
in
the
in
the
memo
we,
we
just
asked
people
who,
if
they
parked
or
if
they
rode
basically
and
then
we
also
asked
them
where
they
currently
reside
and
so
of
the
people
who
responded
to
whether
they
park
to
read
the
shuttle.
It
was
about
this
pretty
split
and
then,
when
we
asked
them
where
they
currently
reside
about,
half
of
the
respondents
reside
in
Boulder
a
little
over
in
half
and
then
the
the
other
half
was
kind
of
split,
pretty
evenly
between
Boulder
County
and
the
wider
denver
metro
area.
AH
AD
AD
So
I
really
think
we
need
to
push
hard
on
non
diesel.
I
still
think
cute
trolley,
something
like
that
would
be
good,
but
I.
Think
the
painting
of
the
hop
is
good,
but
really
that
the
noise
level
of
the
of
that
diesel
is
a
major
concern.
I
think
for
everyone
in
the
pollution
to
say
nothing
about
the
pollution.
AD
AD
One
idea
I
had
was:
you
know:
we
have
B
cycles
all
around
the
place,
I
wonder
if
they
do
ebikes
and
if
she
could
put
Esai
khals
down
there
and
let
people
write
up
because
I
don't
need
it
I
it's
impossible
on
a
regular
package,
but
it
might
be
possible
on
an
electric
bike,
and
that
might
be
you
know
just
one
way
to
take
some
pressure
off
with
the
shuttle
system
and
then
one
guy
said
I
asked
him.
He
said.
Well,
you
know
if
you
pay
for
the
shuttle
with
the
parking.
AD
AD
If
we're
gonna
do
this
for
five
more
years,
I'd
really
like
to
see
you
ratchet
that
down
or
ratchet
it
up
with
it
every
year,
so
that'd
be
a
metric
that
you're
on.
Obviously,
you
had
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
with
the
metrics
and
the
tracking
and
the
marketing
to
educate
people
and
all
that
stuff,
but
that
stuff
ought
to
go
down
over
time
right.
So,
if
you
bring
us
a
five-year
plan,
there
ought
to
be
a
plan
that
says
by
year,
five
you're
getting
closer
to
break.
AD
C
Yeah
I'll
just
echo
those
sentiments.
I
was
a
great
success.
I'm
just
really
impressed
thanks
to
everyone
for
your
hard
work
and
your
creativity,
and
also
for
the
flexibility
in
the
development
of
the
program,
because
we
went
through
a
couple
iterations
last
year,
I
feel
like
it.
I've
got
better
at
every
iteration
and
clearly
it
went
really
well
I
mean
and
and
the
the
data
that
you
tracked
really
gives
us
the
ability
to
see
exactly
what
happened
on
the
ground.
C
So
it's
not
just
the
emails
that
we
get,
but
we
really
know
what
was
going
on
so
I,
very
supportive
of
the
continuation
of
the
project,
whether
we
maybe
pay
a
little
more
attention
to
it
for
another
year
and
call
it
a
pilot,
fine,
but
I'm.
Also
supportive
of
saying
this
is
the
right
direction.
Let's
plan
on
doing
this
for
several
years
I
mean
I
can
given
how
well
it's
gone.
I'd
be
hard
to
see
doing
another
year
where
we
tracked
a
little
more
than
and
then
stopping
it
seems
like
it's
been
very
successful.
C
So
the
in
terms
of
the
the
complaints,
the
the
highlight
that
we
have
gotten
is
the
the
noise
complaint,
and
so
whatever
we
can
do
on
that
front,
we
should
work
hard
on
I
know,
buses
are
expensive,
but
you
know
the
noise
of
the
hop
it's
not
just
about
this
program.
It's
also
about
the
hop
noise
downtown
in
general.
C
C
AE
But
this
time
a
cute
little
electric
trolley,
I
just
looked
online,
there's
tons
of
electric
trolley
so
for
sale,
they're
used
not
that
expensive
would
solve
the
noise
problem
plus
I
think
it
would
give
you
like
a
branding
opportunity
could
even
paint
it
pretty
cool.
You
can
open
up
the
windows
during
the
summertime,
because
this
is
a
summer
thing.
So
I
just
say
you
know
if
it
doesn't
cost
a
lot
of
incremental
money.
I
would
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
create
a
trolley.
We're
gonna
go
back
to
the
I'm
gonna.
AE
Go
back
to
the
future
right
here
because
they
used
to
be
a
cute
little
trolley
that
went
up
and
down
the
hill
back
up
a
hundred
years
ago
and
mimicked
that
but
make
it
electric.
So
we
can.
We
can
address
the
noise
problem
as
well.
If
it's
usually
expensive,
don't
do
it
but
I,
just
like
I'd
like
to
explore
it
I.
AF
So
you
could
save
a
lot
of
money
doing
this
I
think
it's
a
terrific.
We
tell
jokes
too
well,
that'll
discourage
people
from
using
it
right.
That's
a
problem.
Alright
I
do
have
a
couple
of
concerns.
It
shouldn't
be
a
surprise.
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
read
anybody's
parade
here.
There
were
certainly
some
successes,
but
looking
ahead,
I
definitely
have
some
concerns
which
I
just
get
out
of
here,
because
my
last
shot
at
it
one
and
it's
the
reason
I
asked
about
Boulder
residents
when
we
talked
about
this
before
the
summer
and
I
suspect.
AF
This
is
no
longer
the
case
because
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
afford
it.
We
did
talk
about
not
charging
both
the
residents
and
to
me,
that's
still
a
huge
equity
issue
or
inequity
issue,
as
the
case
may
be,
and
it
will
get
even
worse
if
you
up
parking
meter
rates
which
are
already
the
highest
in
Boulder
it's
higher
than
downtown,
which
is
rather
remarkable,
if
you
think
about
our
real
traffic
problems
in
Boulder,
which
are
not
weekend's
of
aqua
their
every
day
in
this
every
weekday
in
the
city
of
Boulder.
So
it's
pretty
remarkable.
AF
Already,
if
you
really
took
that
what
I
think
is
equitable
step,
you
would
have
a
big
impact
on
revenues
and
usage
of
the
of
the
bus.
I
mean
people
would
still
take
the
bus,
certainly
because
still
hard
to
park
up
there,
but
you'd
lose
a
lot
of
parking
revenues.
So
that's
that's
one
concern
I
would
still
wish.
We
did
it
because
of
the
equity
issue.
I
suspect
we
never
will,
because
we
can't
afford
to
do
it,
but
does
it
make
it
fair
or
right?
AF
You
look
at
the
number
of
boardings
you
divide
by
two,
because
everybody
goes
and
comes
at
least
anecdotally,
because
I
bike
by
there
lots
of
weekends
in
the
summer.
Usually
the
people
who
drive
up
there,
it's
multiple
people
to
a
car,
because
it's
families
and
stuff,
so
you
do
another
division
and
you
basically
get
that
over
the
summer
the
bus
probably
took
the
place
of
five
thousand
cars
at
two
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollar
cost.
So
it's
forty
to
fifty
dollars
per
car
right,
that's
the
math.
Then
it
doesn't
sound.
AF
So
terrific
sounds
kind
of
expensive.
In
fact,
and
particularly
when
you
think
about
what
two
to
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
would
buy
again
on
weekdays,
which
are
really
our
problems
in
the
city
in
terms
of
mobility
and
in
terms
of
congestion,
yeah
Chautauqua's,
not
great
I'm,
not
arguing
it
is.
There
are
impacts.
Those
impacts
are
just
not
at
the
same
level
to
me
as
what
goes
on
every
day
in
town
and
250,
grand
would
buy
a
lot
of
bus
service
or
eco
passes
or
whatever
would
really
be
an
effective
thing
to
spend
it
on.
AF
So
those
are
two
of
my
concerns
and
the
third
concern,
which
I
think
is
a
little
bit
of
a
mixed
thing.
80
is
certainly
true
that
the
leasehold
area,
as
we
call
it,
is
a
lot
calmer
and
that's
a
good
thing,
but
it's
also
a
public
space
and
I
was
actually
surprised.
Maybe
I
should
notice
before
one
of
the
arguments
for
not
allowing
parking
up
there
essentially
on
the
weekend
is
well.
You
need
to
know
other
people
who
live
there
and
use
it
to
park.
AF
It's
unfair
if
it's
all
parked
up
except
our
statistics
were
even
before
we
started
this
program
in
the
worst
period,
it
was
only
on
average,
62%
full
and
now
it's
42
percent,
full
and
I.
Think
that's
true,
because
I
biked
up
through
there
a
couple
of
times
late
morning
during
the
summer
and
what
I
saw
anecdotally
was
a
third
to
a
half
of
the
spots
in
use.
AF
So
obviously
it
isn't
a
problem
of
being
parked
up.
That's
just
simply
not
true,
it
is
calmer,
but
the
question
is:
could
you
make
it
calmer,
but
also
use
that
really
valuable
resource,
which
remember
is
owned
by
the
city
of
Boulder
and
could
provide
a
lot
of
parking
to
a
lot
of
people
who
are
accessing
that
or
going
to
the
dining
hall
for
a
meal
too?
It's
not
just
people
are
hiking,
it's
people
who
are
doing
things
and
so
I
think
that
is
an
opportunity
that
should
be
looked
at
as
well
and
I.
AF
I
can
imagine
ways
you
could
accomplish
both
of
those
goals
simultaneously.
Actually
I
thought
about
this
a
bunch
anyway.
Those
are
my
concerns.
It's
like
I
stopped
anybody
from
continuing
this,
but
I
do
hope.
You
kind
of
work
on
some
of
those
it
it's
a
start.
It
could
be
improved.
I
really
am
concerned,
though,
about
the
effective
cost
for
the
for
the
benefit.
AF
When
you
look
at
the
way,
I
look
at
it,
which
maybe
isn't
the
right
way
to
look
at
it
but
boy,
that's
what
the
numbers
tell
you
that
is
really
expensive
per
car
relative
to
our
other
transportation
needs
in
Boulder,
which
I've
worried
about
for
a
long
long
time,
and
it
there
was
just
so
much
money
out
there.
You
know
so
anyway,
I
mean
it
was
a
good
job.
You
did
a
great
job
on
data
collection,
incredibly
helpful,
but
some
more
thought
on
this
would
I
think
be
appropriate.
A
So
I
guess
the
only
thing
I
would
add
is
well
I'll,
say
it
again:
yeah
I'm
impressed
by
this
and
I
don't
know
if
I
was
a
skeptic
old
Bob
but
I'm
still
weighing
it.
It
has
exceeded
my
expectations
by
far
and
the
ridership
on
the
transits.
It's
who
would
have
thought
people
a
bus
to
go
hiking
so
I'm,
pretty
fine
with
where
the
recommendations
are
heading.
I,
guess
the
one
thing
I
guess
I
would
see.
I
would
want
to
see,
but
presumably
the
boards
will
ask-
and
you
will
provide-
is
this?
A
A
A
A
So
to
me,
I'm
kind
of
open
to
that
I
five
years
is
a
long
time
in
politics
or
local
governments,
and
so
to
me,
that's
a
tonight:
oh
yeah,
five
years,
I,
don't
know
about
that!
But
yeah.
This
is
very
cool.
So
I
guess
that's
my
feedback
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
what
the
other
boards
have
to
say
when
they
aren't
wrestling
with
those
questions.
C
Final
comment:
Justice,
you
thought
you
were
gonna
go
just
a
couple:
follow
up
just
to
speak
to
the
budget,
I
agree
with
Mao
and
what
you're
saying
and
Jim
just
about
drilling
into
that.
What
that
five-year
plan
looks
like
cuz.
It
has
been
expensive
but
I
think
a
lot
of
that
has
been
startup
costs
so
yeah.
Let's
see
what
that
looks
like
on
the
longer
term
and
to
Jen's
point
how
we
can
get
that
you
know
maybe
potentially
better
and
better.
Just
echo
Matt's
comment
about
the
leasehold
area.
C
AL
AM
Think
a
lot
of
people
have
a
perception
of
the
tree
in
their
yard
as
more
of
a
liability
than
an
asset
and
in
all
reality
you
know.
A
large
mature
tree
in
your
yard,
as
valuable
as
it
is
as
a
tree
can
be
just
as
valuable
as
lumber
and
can
be
even
more
valuable
as
a
piece
of
furniture.
But
the
opportunity
to
take
something
like
this
and
make
an
heirloom
product
out
of
it
is
very
real.
AN
So
good
evening,
Council
Yvette
Bowden
I'm,
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
it's
nice
to
see
everybody
again.
We
are
very
pleased
to
be
visiting
with
you
again
since
last
September,
when
you
sent
us
a
way
to
think
a
little
bit
about
both
the
emerald
ash,
borer
response
and
a
long-term
forestry
management
plan
for
the
community.
We've
been
doing
lots
of
homework
and
reaching
out
to
the
community.
AA
Well
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
before
diving
right
into
emerald
ash
borer,
though
I
wanted
to
take
just
a
minute
to
talk
about
boulders
urban
tree
canopy.
You
know
in
the
memo
we
explained
what
tree
canopy
is,
but
basically,
if
you
take
a
bird's-eye
view,
a
boulder
and
just
look
at
the
layer
of
leaves
and
twigs
and
branches
from
that,
make
up
all
the
trees
and
shrubs.
AA
That's
pretty
much
going
to
be
the
UTC
of
the
urban
tree
canopy
and
it's
expressed
as
a
percent
of
the
total
land
area
within
city
limits.
Here
in
Boulder,
we
just
recently
completed
our
urban
tree
canopy
assessment,
which
showed
that
our
urban
tree
canopy
is
approximately
16%.
That's
an
average,
though
across
the
city.
AA
If
you
think
about
it,
though,
that
range
is
greatly
from
a
low
of
about
3%
up
in
Gunbarrel
to
a
high
of
about
30%,
30%
plus
down
on
University
Hill,
and
you
can
see
how
we
compared
to
some
of
the
other
communities
there.
Although
some
of
those
other
communities
do
have
very
different
climates,
some
are
more
conducive
to
growing
trees.
Some
are
less
so
it's
just
sort
of
used,
as
you
know,
a
baseline
of
sort
of
how
we're
doing
overall.
AA
But
one
of
the
key
points
that
came
out
of
this
analysis
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
tonight
was
the
fact
that
only
25%
of
the
urban
tree
canopy
is
actually
under
public
jurisdiction
or
management,
and
that
includes
the
city.
Boulder
Valley,
School
District,
see
you
the
federal
properties
here,
but
the
remaining
75%
is
private
property.
So
that
means
you
can
see
that
to
be
determined
under
goal
from
the
city
of
Boulder
through
the
strategic
plan
process.
AA
AA
Unfortunately,
though,
you
know,
as
I
had
mentioned
a
couple
years
ago,
when
we
were
here,
our
canopy
does
face
some
pretty
big
threats.
You
know
invasive
pests,
we're
here
tonight
to
give
you
an
update
on
emerald
ash
borer.
Unfortunately,
a
bee
is
not
the
only
one
out
there.
We
do
have
other
invasive
pests,
climate
change,
certainly
trees,
can
help
mitigate
the
impacts
of
climate
change,
but
trees
are
also
very
vulnerable
to
climate
change,
and
that
includes
some
of
those
severe
weather
events.
AA
If
you
think
back
to
November
of
2014,
we
had
that
severe
temperature
fluctuation
that
killed
a
lot
of
Siberian
Elms
here
across
Boulder.
That
bottom
photo
is
just
a
row
of
them
that
were
killed
in
that
and
then
just
those
two
big
spring
snowstorms
that
we
had
last
year,
another
example
and
then
clearly
development
can
also
impact
our
tree
canopy,
but
again
that
loss
is
going
to
vary
greatly
among
neighborhoods,
just
taking
emerald
ash
borer.
AA
AA
So,
even
though
12%
of
our
public
trees
are
ash,
when
you
look
at
it
on
a
number
basis
and
we're
assuming
that
same
percent
for
private
property,
that
equates
to
about
24
percent
of
our
urban
tree
canopy
overall,
so
emerald
ash
borer
is
becoming
a
lot
more
obvious
than
Boulder
I
mean
that
upper
photo
is
Boulder
reservoir.
The
other
three
photos
are
taken
down
around
baseline.
One
of
them
is
just
out
the
baseline
on
fifty-fifth,
the
other
two
around
baseline
and
Broadway.
AA
AA
This
is
that
same
row
of
trees
taken
a
photo
in
September
of
this
year,
so
you
can
see
just
in
a
one
year
period
of
time,
the
progression
of
symptoms
from
emerald
ash
borer
and
then
that
area
after
those
trees
was
removed
earlier
this
month
and
unfortunately,
what
happens
is
once
the
trees
die
from
emerald
ash
borer
they
dry
out
very
quickly,
and
then
they
start
to
fail.
And
what
happens
then?
Is
it's
they're,
posing
a
threat
to
public
safety
to
both
people
and
property?
AA
A
We
pause
there
for
a
second,
so
I
mean
that
that
trees
become
dangerous
within
a
year.
Can
I
push
back
on
that
a
little
bit,
I
mean
there's
lots
of
dead
trees
around
and
it's
not
like
their
branches
go
falling
off
the
first
year
Rae.
So
does
it
really
anyhow
say
more
about
that?
I
mean
our
ask
more
different
than
other
dead
freeze.
Is
that
really
within
a
year?
Is
it
more
like
within
three
years
they.
AA
AA
Z
AA
We
will
be
talking
about
that.
Yes,
so
to
date,
we
have
removed
just
over
thirteen
hundred
and
fifty
public
ash
trees
and,
unfortunately,
emerald
ash.
Borer
is
now
impacting
our
older,
more
historic
neighborhoods,
where
we
have
a
lot
more
public
ash
that
are
much
larger
in
diameter.
We're
also
seeing
a
lot
more
ash
decline
and
died
along
creek
corridors,
including
Boulder,
Creek
path,
we're
seeing
symptomatic
trees
all
the
way
from
really
behind
boldest
Boulder
justice
center,
all
the
way
out
through
Folsom
along
the
creek
path.
AA
AA
If
you
want
to
try
and
put
a
positive
spin
on
emerald
ash
borer,
you
could
say
that
20
or
30
years
from
now
our
forests
would
be
more
resilient
because
we're
trying
to
plant
at
least
35
different
tree
species
a
year
and
diversity
and
tree
species
really
is
the
key
to
resiliency
when
you're
talking
about
urban
forests.
So
you.
Z
AA
Are
that's
a
very
good
question,
a
lot
of
the
trees
that
we
chew
I've
been
working
here
for
about
20
years
and
when
I
first
started,
we
were
choosing
trees
primarily
in
a
cold
hardiness
zone
for
at
that
time,
because
that's
what
Boulder
was
listed
as
I
think
we
were
like
a
4b.
Now
we've
actually
moved
more
into
the
range
of
like
a
5
a
because
of
our
temperatures.
AA
A
AA
Lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
matching
the
trees
to
the
individual
site
conditions
and
the
site
conditions
that
we
have
down
here
in
the
urban
part
of
Boulder
are
not
really
where
ponderosa
pine
is
used
to
growing.
You
know
it's,
for
example,
surrounded
by
concrete.
Our
soils
down
here
are
actually
different
than
they
are
up
in
the
foothills
where
ponderosa
pine
is
native
our
soils
down
here,
you
know,
if
you
think
of
you,
know
a
project.
AA
AN
And
as
we
go
to
the
part
about
the
long
term,
canopy
diversification
and
health,
we're
happy
to
kind
of
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
availability
of
trees
and
the
fact
that
75%
of
the
canopy
actually
exists
and
much
of
this
replacement
opportunity
will
exist
on
private,
residential
and
commercial.
Okay.
A
AD
AO
AA
This
size
you're
planting
little
trees
back,
but
we
have
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
maintaining
at
least
a
one
to
one
ratio
up
until
we
found
them
roll
for
and
for
a
year
or
so
after
that,
and
then
the
trend
sort
of
started
downward
and
a
lot
of
that
is
just
not
only
because
of
emerald
ash
borer,
but
also
because
of
that
2014
freeze
that
we
had.
Since
that
time,
we've
had
to
remove
about
500
dead,
Siberian
Elms.
So
again
that
trend
we
do
continue.
AA
AA
We
also
started
a
partnership
with
the
National
Arbor
Day
Foundation,
where
they
have
corporate
sponsors
that
donate
money,
that
we
then
use
to
purchase
little
seedlings
to
give
out
to
the
public
and
then
next
year
we're
also
going
to
start
a
tree
sale
similar
to
what
Longmont
had
done
this
year,
where
they
actually
the
city,
will
sell
trees,
larger
trees.
These
will
be
like
15,
gallon
trees,
containerized,
but
there'll
be
at
a
greatly
reduced
cost
to
the
public.
AA
Now
pesticide
treatment,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
all
ash,
unfortunately
here
in
Boulder,
will
die
from
emerald
ash
borer
unless
they're
treated
with
pesticides.
Our
plan
was
to
treat
around
25
percent
we're
treating
about
22
percent
of
our
ash
on
a
three-year
rotation
with
the
chemical,
MMX
and
benzoate
the
triage.
One
of
the
questions
we
get
asked
most
commonly
is
if
the
pesticide
is
effective,
the
one
that
we're
using
you
can
see
in
that
photo
down
at
the
bottom,
the
untreated
versus
the
treated
tree.
AA
C
Cute
question
about
the
ash:
trees
will
die.
If
is
there
a
certain
point
at
which
the
epidemic
will
run
its
course
and
they're
kind
of
gone,
because
they
have
nothing
else
to
eat
and
if
we've
treated-
and
maybe
this
is
20
or
30
years
from
now.
But
if
we
keep
treating
these
trees,
is
there
some
point
of
which
we
don't
have
to
treat
them
anymore,
because
the
EAB
has
moved
on
well.
AA
We
have
a
bee
has
been
in
the
Midwest
for
about
20
years
now,
so
we
can
sort
of
look
at
what
the
experience
has
been
from
some
of
the
cities
across
the
Midwest
and
what
they
found
is.
You
know,
I
mentioned
earlier
EAB
the
populations
expand
exponentially,
so
what
they've
found
is
without
the
use
of
pesticides
in
a
very
short
period
of
time,
in
some
cases,
maybe
10
to
12
years.
All
of
the
ash
trees
would
be
beyond
treatment
at
that
point
because
of
emerald
ash
borer.
AA
But
after
that
point
you
know
after
EAB
sort
of
sweeps
through
a
community
and
takes
out
all
of
those
trees
that
are
not
being
treated.
Its
populations,
yes,
will
decline
because
it
has
sort
of
eaten
itself
out
of
house
and
home
so
to
speak,
but
it
will
not
go
away.
It
will
still
be
there
back
in
the
Midwest.
AA
AA
Gastly
most
everything
is
non-native
right
so,
but
the
hope
is
that
long
term,
for
example.
Now,
if
we're
treating
trees
every
two
years
over
three
years
that
because
the
populations
would
decline
naturally,
and
because
of
the
bio
controls,
that
was
a
perfect
sort
of
segue
into
the
bio
controls
that
we'd
be
able
to
stretch
out
those
pesticide
applications.
So
maybe
we
can
do
them
every
four
years,
five
years
or
longer,
you.
AA
A
AA
If
you
want
to
save
those
individual
trees
yeah,
what
we
had
mentioned
here
a
couple
years
ago,
was
that
really,
when
it
comes
to
the
pesticides,
what
our
hope
is
long
long
term
is
to
sort
of
use
this
two-stage
removals
out
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
get
more
trees
planted
in
the
meantime
and
trees
take
time
to
grow,
especially
here
in
our
climate.
So
over
that
period
of
time
that
would
allow
us
to.
AA
AA
The
takeaway
message
here
is
that
we
are
finding
them
overwintering
and
when
we
peel
branches,
we
are
actually
finding
them
parasitizing
the
EAB
larvae,
which
is
very
good
news.
Now
the
city
does
have
a
duty
to
enforce
for
private
trees
that
threaten
public
property.
In
our
code,
though,
you
can
see
it
says,
remedy
the
condition
within
15
days
from
the
date
of
the
notice
are
such
shorter
time
as
a
manager
finds
appropriate.
AA
What
we're
finding,
though,
in
this
photo,
is
actually
a
photo
of
a
couple
of
large
dead
ash
trees
that
we
didn't
force
on
this
year,
because
they
were
overhanging
a
sidewalk
and
street.
What
we're
finding,
though,
is
tree
care
companies
here
are
so
incredibly
busy
and
overwhelmed,
but
they
can't
even
get
out
there
in
15
days
to
give
a
quote
for
the
work
and
then,
if
they're
pushed
on
it,
the
prices
are
just
astronomical.
AA
So
mm-hmm
excuse
me
Oh
thousands,
yes
sure,
especially
to
respond
that
quickly.
Yes,
so
just
like
I
was
saying
earlier
that
we
have
to
be
more
proactive
in
removing
our
public
trees.
We
need
to
give
the
private
property
owners
a
much
longer
period
of
time
to
get
those
private
trees
removed
so
moving
forward,
rather
than
sending
notices
when
the
tree
is.
At
this
point,
we
want
to
send
more
I'm,
not
sure
what
we'd
call
them
almost
courtesy,
type
notices
to
say:
hey,
you
have
a
symptomatic
ash
tree
on
your
property.
AA
AA
If
you
think
about
a
dead
ash
tree
in
a
backyard,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
once
ash
trees
pass
like
that,
50%
symptomatic
point:
you
can't
send
climbers
up
in
the
tree
anymore
and
if
it's
a
tree
in
the
backyard,
you
can't
access
it
with
a
bucket
truck,
which
means
it
becomes
a
crane
removal
which
then,
yes,
the
prices,
go
up
quite
a
bit
at
that
point.
So
now
sustainability
and
the
wood
utilization.
One
of
the
lessons
we've
learned
is
that
there
is
no
one
solution
to
the
wood
utilization
issue.
AA
We
will
have
a
lot
more
wood
debris
moving
forward
because
of
emerald
ash
borer,
but
I
think
that's
also
opened
up
a
lot
of
opportunities
and
created
some
really
good
partnerships.
Tree
op
is
just
one
of
those
and
just
to
put
in
a
shameless
plug
on
December.
8Th
tree
up
will
be
hosting
an
exhibition
in
the
library
to
sell
products,
so
we
do
invite
you
all
to
come
out
right
before
Christmas,
perfect
timing
so
and
then
education,
outreach
for
emerald
ash
borer.
AA
We
have
tried
multiple
different
avenues:
I
mean
websites,
channel
8,
updates,
open
houses,
we've
been
at
farmers
markets.
The
summer
festivals,
we've
done
extensive
workshops
and
tours
for
industry
professionals
and
we've
also
received
great
support
both
from
the
Play
Foundation
and
from
several
local
businesses.
Macguffins,
for
example,
hosted
our
tree
giveaway
this
year.
We've
also
had
tables
that
MacGuffins
several
times
and
then
resource
as
well,
going
back
to
the
wid
issue
resource
actually,
we've
milled,
some
of
our
logs
had
them
kiln,
dried
and
then
resources
actually
sold
those
sold
the
lumber.
AA
Now,
when
I
was
here
in
2015,
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
talked
about
as
part
of
our
I
suppose
you
could
say
as
part
of
our
emerald
ash
borer
strategy,
we
had
found
that
several
of
the
issues
surrounding
emerald
ash
borer,
like
pesticide
use,
the
wood
utilization
piece,
wasn't
just
specific
to
emerald
ash
borer.
So,
rather
than
just
doing
an
emerald
ash
borer
management
plan,
we
actually
wanted
to
take
sort
of
a
bigger
approach
and
do
an
urban
forest
strategic
plan.
So
for
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
Jeff,
hey
Lee,
yeah.
AO
And
as
Kathleen
mentioned
earlier,
our
main
goal
this
evening
is
just
to
bring
you
up
to
date
on
this
EAB
response
and
where
we're
at
with
the
community.
But
as
several
of
you
Ari
mentioned,
it
does
require
planning
to
ensure
the
long-term
forest
trees,
as
you
know,
and
as
you
can
see
by
now,
our
critical
infrastructure
to
the
community,
just
like
roads
and
bridges
and
transportation
network
the
trees
provide
a
value
and
a
benefit
to
the
boulder
that
we
must
take
care
of.
AO
In
fact,
some
of
the
original
research
we've
done
with
our
planning
efforts
basically
shows
about
5.2
million
dollars
annually
is
the
benefit
we
receive
from
our
urban
forests
here
in
Boulder.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
we
take
care
of
that.
In
the
long
term,
we've
kicked
off
the
planning
process
of
the
past
year
with
basically
four
steps.
Just
looking
at
inventory
and
analysis
of
what
do
we
have
determining
goals
and
priorities
in
terms
of
what
what
do
we
want?
What
do
we
want
the
force
to
be?
How
do
we
get
there?
AO
A
AO
Go
like
I
said:
there's,
basically,
four
phases
we're
at
the
action
plan
stage
right
now,
where
we're
starting
to
overlap
into
drafting
that
that
planned
is
that's.
Why
I
wanted
to
come
to
you
all
this
evening.
We
actually
have
the
benefit
last
night
working
with
our
Parks
and
Rec
Advisory
Board
sharing
similar
information
get
a
lot
of
gradient,
but
from
them
as
well.
Basically
early
next
year,
first
quarter
of
2018,
we
hope
to
get
a
final
plan
developed
and
then
we'll
be
sharing
the
how
it
comes
of
that
with
Council.
AO
We've
done
a
lot
of
outreach
to
the
community.
In
fact,
we've
developed
a
whole
initiative
called
branching
out
and
to
really
yeah,
so
there's
all
kinds
of
quotes
and
things
we
can
do
so.
We've
worked
with
a
lot
of
neighborhoods.
You
mentioned
neighborhoods
a
moment
ago,
specifically
the
children
and
youth
in
the
community.
You
know
our
next
generation
basically
and
then
a
lot
of
the
professionals
are
arborist
our
peers
and
Cu,
and
also
probably,
most
importantly,
our
advocacy
groups,
those
who
really
care
about
the
forest
and
can
work
together
with
us
on
the
solutions.
AO
So,
there's
just
a
few
key
themes:
we
want
to
just
provide
your
your
memo.
Packet
provides
a
lot
more
information.
In
fact,
we
have
a
whole
attachment
on
the
summary
of
community
input,
but
you
I
won't
go
through
these
in
great
detail,
but
basically
one
of
the
key
themes
is
planning.
We
need
to
develop
better
drought
response
plans,
a
lot
of
the
items
Kathleen
mentioned
about
emergency
response.
How
do
we
plan
for
those
types
of
events,
integrating
our
forestry
components
into
other
city
processes?
AO
AO
In
that
same
realm,
we
have
to
two
themes:
both
connect
and
engage.
How
do
we
engage
our
volunteers?
How
do
we
engage
partners
in
terms
of
funding
and
leveraging
private
funds
with
our
public
funds
and
probably,
most
importantly,
how
do
we
connect
with
folks?
We
want
to
make
sure
people
are
aware
of
EA,
be
aware
of
the
long
term
strategies
for
our
forests
and
how
do
we
communicate
that
effectively?
AO
So
that,
basically
concludes
our
presentation.
We
do
have
just
a
couple
questions
that
we
posed
in
the
memo
and
this
evening
that
you
can
respond
to
we've
broken
into
the
two
different
topics
related
to
EAB
the
strategy
and
what
we're
really
curious
of
on
the
strategy
is.
Do
you
feel
Boulder
understands
the
immoral
ash
borer
situation?
Are
we
doing
a
good
job
of
reaching
out
and
educating
the
community
or
how
could
we
do
more
and
be
better
in
that
outreach
and
then,
finally,
on
the
strategic
plan,
any
questions
we
can
answer
or
comments.
AO
AN
Yes,
despite
the
extensive
outreach
that
we've
done
and
there's
a
myriad
of
reasons
for
this,
although
we've
tried
a
lot
of
different
avenues,
I
think
until
it
actually
starts
to
evidence
on
someone's
property,
they
don't
necessarily
know
what
kind
of
tree
they
have,
and
they
may
not
really
be
aware
that
this
is
a
problem.
So
this
is
why
we
wanted
to
that
more
proactive
stance
and
door
hangers
and
being
out
with
people
earlier
to
say.
AN
This
is
how
this
is
what
it
looks
like,
and
this
is
what
you'll
see
we
can
always
get
better
at
letting
people
know.
That
was
one
of
the
pieces
of
feedback.
We
got
from
Prem
last
night
to
never
stop
trying
to
tell
this
story.
You
don't
want
to
scare
people,
but
at
the
same
time
you
want
to
let
them
know
why
this
is
happening
where
this
is
happening
and
what
they
can
do
both
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution,
but
also
that
we
can
all
be
part
of.
AN
We
need
to
Shepherd
this
urban
forestry
system
together.
I
would
the
last
thing
I
would
say
to
that
is
emerald.
Ash
borer
is
just
one
impact.
There
are
different
species
with
different
impacts,
and
certainly
the
canopy
in
order
to
sustain
over
time
is
gonna
need
the
love
of
everybody.
One
of
the
big
challenges
that
came
up
last
night,
and
certainly
that
we're
aware
of,
is
a
large
portion
of
the
property.
AN
Occupiers
are
renters,
so
they
don't
own
the
property
where
the
tree,
you
know
we're
sending
notices
to
the
property
owner
and
the
property
owner
is
not
here
seeing
what's
happening,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we're
thinking
about
that
came
up
in
the
feedback
sessions
with
the
community
is
we
need
toolkits
so
that
people
can
talk
to
their
landlords
and
to
their
neighbors
in
a
more
constructive
way
about
handling
this
together?
Well,.
Z
And
I
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
would
hope
that
we
begin
to
emphasize
is
the
safety
issue
and
that
that
seems
to
be
something
that
could
really
get
people's
attention
is,
if
you
don't
take
care
of
this,
it
could
do
personal
harm
and
property
harm.
So
that's
I
think
that's
an
important
thing
to
emphasize
without
stirring
fear
in
people
but
and
the
other
piece
of
it
is
the
whole
pocketbook
piece
of
it.
The
longer
you
wait,
the
more
it's
going
to
cost
you.
AN
A
I
say:
let's
figure
that
one
out
and
I'm
glad
that
we're
looking
to
partner
with
you
know
some
foundations
and
how
to
help
make
help
it
make
it
easy
for
people
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
guess
I
also
was
glad
to
see
you
saying
in
the
slide
before
you
talked
about
the
one
right
before
it
Munich
recommendations
and
tree
requirements
during
drought
periods.
I
feel
like
we
like
right
now
right.
A
It's
pretty
warm
out
and
yeah
figuring
out
ways
to
help
people
be
good
stewards,
because
this
is
part
of
the
climate
solution
right,
trees,
sequester
carbon.
We
want
to
have
a
robust
tree
canopy,
so
we
want
people
to
go
and
get
it
in
their
head
that
they're
part
of
the
solution
here
and
involves
taking
care
of
trees.
So
I
think
that
that
is
all
very
positive,
I'm,
pretty
certain
other
than
the
hill,
that
most
people
are
not
paying
attention
right.
A
A
Just
my
two
other
thoughts
are
I.
Do
care
a
lot
about
the
species?
Diversification
piece
I?
Think
because
we're
going
to
keep
getting
these
waves
hitting
us
of
invasive
species
and
I
also
think
there's
a
whole
aesthetic
to
to
that
as
well.
That
I
think
because
trees
are
so
important
to
what
our
city
looks
like
that.
Thinking
that,
through
as
well
I
mean
I,
look
at
what's
going
on
down
at
the
Pro
Street,
Mall
and
they've
had
to
take
out
some
trees
and
guess
what
it
changes.
A
The
nature
of
that
in
a
big
time
and
what
we
replant
down
there,
it
matters
so
I
hope.
Smart
people
are
thinking
all
that
through
and
making
good
choices
that
will
service
for
the
next
50
years
and
then
the
last
thing
I
would
say,
and
how
do
I
says
I
think
this
problem
will
take
care
of
itself,
but
I.
A
Have
fought
on
behalf
of
certain
trees
that
to
keep
them
from
being
cut
down
because
they
were
old
and
they
were
starting
to
be
in
decline
in
the
city
right
away,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
if
there's
a
public
safety
issue,
I
get
it,
but
I
also
think
that
from
an
ecological
perspective,
old-growth
trees
have
more
about.
They
have
a
lot
of
value
and
I.
Don't
know.
I
complain
once
about
a
big
old
cottonwood
that
had
just
started
to
decline,
so
they
just
took
it
down
it
wasn't
nearly
now.
A
It
was
going
to
be
a
source
of
great
joy
and
beauty
for
another
I,
don't
know
several
years,
but
anyhow
we
decided,
as
the
city
came
and
just
took
it
down
and
bam.
It
was
like
wow
and
now
there's
nothing.
It's
just
barren.
This
is
no.
My
point
is
prioritizing
what
trees
were
taken
down
and
the
ones
we
have
to
absolutely
a
sh
t
like
it's
compelling,
but
I
questions.
Sometimes
some
of
the
other
big
old
trees
that
are
taking
down
cuz
they're
gonna
die.
C
Wanted
to
piggyback
on
that
I
mean
they're
there
times
to
be
really
proactive
and
cutting
down
really
healthy
trees
that
are
going
to
die
before
too
long
is
maybe
not
the
place
to
be
really
proactive.
So
I
trust
your
expertise
on
making
sure
that
we
keep
our
community
safe.
I
just
want
to
echo
the
sentiments
that
same
guy.
AF
You
know
I
think
you're
doing
a
great
job
but
I.
This
is
a
tough
one,
because
I
do
have
to
explain
it
to
people,
but
it's
really
expensive
and
that's
a
lot
of
things.
We
explain
to
people,
you
know
they
have
to
meet
code.
They
have
to
do
this.
They
have
to
do
that.
That's
fine,
but
this
is
really
expensive.
The
one
thing
you
might
do
is
slightly.
Maybe
you're
doing
this
and
we've
treated
two
of
our
trees.
We
took
one
out
and
it's
yeah.
This
is
pricey.
AF
Is
that
as
expensive,
it
is
to
treat
them
and
it
is
expensive
to
treat
them
I
think
at
least
anecdotally,
and
from
what
I've
seen
in
our
neighborhood,
you
could
treat
a
tree
for
at
least
ten,
maybe
twelve
fourteen
years
for
the
cost
of
taking
it
out
and
I.
Don't
know
if
people
know
that,
because
it
sounds
awfully
expensive
to
treat
it
and
it
sounds
awfully
expensive
to
keep
doing
that
every
two
or
three
years
when
you
compare
it
to
the
cost
of
taking
a
tree
out,
especially
if
it
isn't
easily
accessible.
AF
It's
rather
astounding
what
that
cost
you.
So
you
know
if
somebody
can
get
12
plus
years
if
they
catch
it
early
enough
and
if
they
know
to
look
for
it
and
if
I
know
what
an
ash
tree
looks
like
and
it's
old
stuff,
you
can
help
people
with
you
might
be
able
to
sell
them
I'm
at
and
I'm.
Just
not
sure
people
get
that
and
understandably
they
put
it
off
because
it's
expensive.
This
is
really
expensive.
Stuff,
I,
don't
know
what
we
do
with
all
the
rental
units,
both
in
both
ways.
AF
AF
So
it's
kind
of
a
cup
frankly,
a
combination
of
informing
and
a
little
bit
of
beating
on
them
as
to
why
it's
worth
their
while
on
the
end,
and
you
know
why
we
will
enforce
at
some
point.
We
will
enforce
our
rules
and
you
know
they've
also
got
liability
even
if
it's
a
internal
tree,
if
it
hurts
somebody,
it's
going
to
be
their
liability
eventually.
So
that's
about
all
I
can
think
of
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
you
do
it
in
our
neighborhood,
which
is
not
very
much
rental.
AF
A
AF
AF
The
I
mean
I'm
sure
you're
talking
to
the
big
HOAs,
because
they
own
big
common
areas
and
lots
of
trees
and
almost
sociation
has
to
pay
for
it
because
they
do
common.
You
know
landscape
and
you
got
to
get
in
there
too,
and
tell
them
it's
more
expensive.
If
you
wait
plus
you
can
save
I
mean
even
if
you
only
save
a
third
of
the
trees,
that's
a
lot.
That
would
be
spectacular
if
we
could
save
a
third
of
the
trees
worth
saving.
AF
Obviously
not
a
third
of
every
ash
tree
in
Boulder,
but
a
third
of
the
trees
worth
saving
would
be
pretty
spectacular.
If
we
could
do
it
and
I
think
it's
cost-effective,
you
just
got
to
explain
that
to
people.
So
that's
it's
a
tough!
It's
a
tough
thing
to
do.
How
do
you
get
the
word
out
to
everybody?
I,
don't
know
I
think
you're
doing
a
great
job,
but
we
just
kind
of
kind
of
try
every
possible
Avenue.
If
we've
got
you
know
I.
The
paper
has
certainly
run
some
articles
on
it.
A
And
the
utilization
part
and
the
creativity
going
into
that
is
really
cool
and
both
on
the
on
the
knight
foundation
project,
but
also
the
resource
project
where
they're
actually
milling
it
and
selling
it.
That's
cool
and
the
fact
that
we're
really
trying
to
prioritize
not
putting
it
in
a
landfill,
ding,
ding
ding,
that's
good,
because
that
creates
methane
like
that's.
That's
the
anti
solution
so
kudos
to
the
city
for
being
creative.