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A
B
B
E
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B
B
Thank
you
and
our
first
time
of
business
is
to
amend
the
agenda.
We
have
two
items
to
add
under
matters
items
8a
and
8b,
a
discussion
on
disbanding
the
cu,
sound
process
subcommittee
and
a
discussion
on
adding
gun
violence
prevention
work
to
the
work
plan.
Could
I
get
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
so
move?
Second?
B
H
Thank
you
mayor
and
I'm
actually
going
to
let
our
fire
chief
chief
calderazo,
give
us
more
of
an
update,
but
we
had
a
unfortunate
fire
today
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
who
reacted
so
quickly
to
support
those
residents
that
were
caught
in
the
fire
and
so
with
that
chief
I'll.
Just
let
you
take
it
away
with
an
update.
I
Thanks
nuria
good
evening
council
mike
calderon
fire
chief,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
the
fire,
I'm
sure
everyone
has
heard
by
now
about
3
30.
This
morning
we
had
an
apartment
fire
in
the
whittier
square
apartment
complex.
I
It
was
upon
arrival
for
our
first
do
units
the
roofs
of
there's,
it's
actually
a
six
building
complex
if
you're
familiar
with
it
and
it
kind
of
goes
from
east
to
west
and
or
west
to
east,
whichever
orientation
you
prefer
and
they're
impaired
buildings,
and
so
when
the
units
first
arrived
about
five
minutes
after
dispatch,
the
roofs
of
the
westernmost
buildings,
the
first
four
were
already
on
fire
and
there
was
fire
coming
through
the
roof
of
those
buildings.
I
The
units
that
got
there
actually
were
pretty
darn
hard
and
did
a
very
good
job
of
what
we
call
a
defensive
operation
trying
to
prevent
the
fire
from
taking
down
the
fifth
and
the
sixth
buildings.
I
On
the
east
side
of
that
complex,
there
were
about
40
plus
families
that
were
clearly
in
bed
at
home
at
this
time
of
the
morning,
and
I
have
to
say,
if
it
wasn't
for
our
firefighters
and
our
police
officers
that
arrived
on
the
scene,
it
was,
it
could
have
been
much
much
worse
in
terms
of
casualties,
there
actually
weren't
any
that
we
that
we
were
able
to
have
among
our
responders
or
among
the
public.
I
The
residents
who
got
out
many
of
them
were
actually
awakened
by
the
police
officers,
if
not
by
others
in
the
complex.
So
a
lot
of
kudos
to
to
the
officers
who
went
knocking
on
doors
to
get
folks
out
of
there
and
then
later
those
families
were
actually
taken
over
to
police
headquarters
and
then
helped
there.
I
There
are,
we
counted
83
units
in
the
complex
and
it's
a
little
tough
to
access
from
different
sides
of
it.
So
firefighters
had
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
there.
It
is
a
sprinkler
building,
but
the
fire
had
gotten
above
the
sprinklers
and
actually
burned
through
the
roof
line,
and
then
there's
a
there's
actually
a
breezeway
between
the
the
buildings
on
the
paired
buildings
and
the
fire
actually
traveled
internally,
along
that
breezeway
to
catch
basically
all
the
structures
on
fire.
I
As
of
about
an
hour
and
a
half
ago,
I
was
able
to
confirm
that
of
all
the
owners
slash
occupants
of
the
structures.
We've
only
been
unable
to
account
for
four
owners
and
we're
not
even
sure
that
they
were
there
at
the
time
of
the
fire
or
if
they
had
occupants.
I
Not
only
is
that
a
big
deal,
but
we
were
not
able
to
adequately
search
the
first
two
buildings
on
the
west
side
or
yeah
on
the
west
side
of
the
complex
because
of
the
the
all
of
the
buildings
suffered.
Some
mean
a
little
bit
of
collapse
here
and
there,
but
but
the
first
four
buildings
had
some
pretty
good
sizable
collapses
and
with
the
fire
damage
the
water
damage.
I
We
were
worried
about
putting
folks
inside
those
structures
if
we
didn't
have
to
until
we
can
figure
out
how
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
they're
safe
structurally
to
go
in
so
getting
it
down
to
four
narrows
down
a
lot.
We
hope
that
it
actually
gets
down
to
zero
and
we
will
have
really
dodged
any
serious
injury
or
casualties
from
from
this
incident.
I
So,
as
far
as
I
know,
even
though
we
had
a
few
people
actually
have
to
jump
from
second
floor
balconies,
no
serious
injuries
were
reported,
which
is
which
is
really
really
remarkable
and
a
good
thing
not
good
for
the
families.
Our
heart
goes
out
to
all
of
them
that
lost
their
their
homes
or
their
belongings
this
evening,
and
hopefully
we're
getting
them
taken
care
of.
But
that's
that's
it
in
a
nutshell,
there's
more
certainly
in
the
press.
I
Release
in
terms
of
the
number
of
firefighters
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
anyone
has
regarding
the
incident,
but
I
also
wanted
to
thank
not
just
the
police
department
for
all
their
help.
We
even
used
their
uav
team,
their
drone
team
to
search
areas
where
we
weren't
comfortable,
putting
a
firefighter
inside
the
structure
really
helpful,
but
but
also
we
had
help
from
open
space
and
mountain
parks
rangers
initially
with
traffic
control.
We
had
our
our
fleet
partners
out
there,
making
sure
our
trucks
were
continuing
to
run
during
the
incident.
I
So
a
lot
of
help
from
a
lot
of
different
departments
to
to
help
us
accomplish
our
job,
which
we
couldn't
have
done
without
them.
So
a
lot
of,
and
in
fact
even
our
partner
departments
around
us,
so
louisville
lafayette
mountain
view,
fire
boulder
rural
fire
all
sent
units
into
the
city
to
cover
the
city,
because
we
put
all
of
our
units
in
on
this
fire.
So
they
are
our
count.
I
My
counterpart
fire
chiefs,
we've
all
made
a
mutual
aid
agreements
to
help
each
other
and
they
were
able
to
help
cover
the
city.
While
we
did
that
so
it's
it
was
really
a
a
team
effort
and
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
to
fight
this
fire
and-
and
thankfully,
at
this
point
we're
not
aware
of
any
serious
injuries.
There
were
some
pets.
We
have
not
been
able
to
account,
for.
I
I
know
that's
been
a
question
as
well
and
so
we're
you
know
when
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
back
into
the
structure,
we'll
certainly
be
looking
for
for
those.
The
last
thing
I
did
want
to
say
in
terms
of
the
investigation
and
the
caught
and
the
origin
and
cause
of
the
fire
we
have.
Atf
has
graciously
started
assisting
our
own
investigations
team
and
they
began
investigations
today,
but
because
we
were
still
putting
out
hot
spots
as
late
as
late
this
afternoon,
they
will
continue
the
investigation
tomorrow.
I
They
will
do
an
in-depth
look
at
areas
of
suspicion
where
they
think
the
fire
may
have
started,
and
hopefully
we'll
have
an
answer
on
cause
and
origin
sometime
tomorrow,
if
not
the
day
after,
but
the
the
heavy
lift
in
terms
of
the
investigation,
we
expect
will
happen
tomorrow
and
that's
all
I
have
in
brief.
I'm
certainly
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If,
if
there
are
any.
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much
for
that
chief
and
thanks
to
you
and
your
whole
department
and
to
the
police
and
the
entire
boulder
police
department
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
did
to
get
people
out
safely,
nothing
more
important
than
the
jobs
that
you
all
do
in
the
city.
So
thanks
so
much
for
your
quick
response.
I
do
see
we
have
a
couple
of
hands
here
and
I
will
turn
to
those
now.
I've
got
aaron
and
mark
aaron.
E
Well,
first,
let
me
echo
sam's
thanks
chief
colorado,
appreciate
so
much
the
work
that
your
department
did
and
the
police
department
and
this
really
heroic
effort
to
make
sure
that
no
one
was
killed
or
seriously
injured.
So
the
whole
community
thanks
you
for,
for
that
great
effort.
Thank
you,
sir.
That's
my
one,
one
question
would
be
for
you
or
darya
who
could
speak
to.
E
If
I
know
there
are
members
of
the
community
that
are
eager
to
assist
folks
who
are
who
have
been
displaced
and
lost
their
belongings
and
such
what
are
good
ways
for
people
to
volunteer
or
donate
to
to
help
folks
out
who've
suffered
through
this
tragedy.
I
Sorry,
I'm
I
so
that
is
a
great
question.
We
got
asked
that
a
lot
today
and
I
and
we
have
actually
some
opportunities
for
folks
to
contribute
or
donate,
and
I
think
we
have
a
slide
even
that
we
can
tee
up
to
share
with
folks
there's
a
few
different
opportunities.
I
There
is
you'll
see
in
the
middle
bullet
here
there
are
three
fundamental
ways
to
donate.
Of
course,
the
red
cross
was
instrumental
in
helping
the
folks
that
went
to
the
police
department
headquarters
from
the
incident
and
they're
a
big
part
in
how
we
respond
to
many
fires
and
helping
residents
out.
So
that's
one
way:
that's
a
more
general
way
to
donate.
There's
the
1-800
help
now
and
there's
also
the
opportunity
to
text
the
red
cross,
but
it's
really
the
red
cross.
I
That
does
a
lot
of
of
work
for
and
with
residents,
as
well
as
for
responders
on
scene,
so
they're,
one
of
the
biggest
ways
to
help
folks
impacted
by
the
fire
and
and
even
folks
who
who
responded
to
it
while
they
were
there
so
helping
them
helps
everyone
involved.
H
If
I
could
just
add
to
that
before
we
move
to
the
next
question,
I
just
want
to
note
that
they're
not
accepting
clothing
donations
because
of
covid,
but
they
have
been
our
main
liaison
and
to
the
chief's
point.
They
were
so
instrumental
in
helping
the
folks
in
the
immediate,
after
the
aftermath
of
those
that
had
to
evacuate.
H
So
if
you
are
inclined-
and
we
are
so
appreciative
of
our
community-
that
is
helping
their
neighbors-
that
is
a
great
way
to
use
that
intention
and
allow
the
red
cross
to
help
disperse
that.
E
L
Yeah,
I
want
a
second
what
aaron
said
chief.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
performance
of
your
department
and
all
the
men.
It
would
have
been
so
much
worse
if
you
had
not
been
there.
Just
two
questions.
One
is
actually
for
nuria.
The
first
question
for
you
chief:
do
we
have
any
sense
of
how
badly
the
buildings
have
been
damaged,
any
sense
of
whether
they
can
be
reconstructed
or
will
have
to
be
torn
down
and
built
into.
I
That's
a
good
question,
so
I
was
there
on
the
scene.
I'm
a
terrible
engineer,
I'll,
be
honest
with
you
up
front,
but
I
will
say
the
the
first
four
buildings
were
heavily
damaged,
but
the
way
that
building
is
constructed
I
mean
there's
some.
You
know
there.
There
are
some
fundamentals
in
there
they're,
probably
okay.
I
Most
of
the
damage
was
in
the
upper
stories
of
the
building,
but
there's
a
lot
of
water
damage
and
my
guess
is:
there's
a
if
the
bones
are
still
good.
Yes,
but
my
guess
is
at
the
the
very
top
of
that
building
for
sure
definitely
going
to
need
heavy
heavy
rehab,
but
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
it
or
whether
structurally
it's
truly
unsound
and
not
they're
not
able
to
to
work
with
what's
left.
I
H
Well,
I
appreciate
that
again
we're
letting
the
red
cross
really
take
the
lead
on
it,
and
they
are
right
now
having
those
conversations
with
anyone
who's
displaced.
They
have
the
ability
immediately
to
offer
sort
of
basic
needs.
Toiletries
blanket
they're,
also
focusing
on
those
that
perhaps
need
some
additional
financial
assistance
as
that
moves
forward,
and
we
will
continue
to
be
in
contact
with
them
as
they
learn
more.
We
will
certainly
be
talking
to
them
and
see
what
else
we
need
to
do.
M
And
I
too
would
like
to
echo
the
gratitude
that
my
colleagues
have
expressed.
So
thank
you.
My
question
is:
what
kind
of
sheltering
will
the
displaced
individuals
and
families
be
receiving
so.
I
There's
it
actually
runs
the
gamut.
I
don't
have
info
on
those
who
don't
have
their
own
accommodations,
but
I
know
quite
a
few.
I
In
fact,
even
while
we
were
on
the
scene
today,
we
had
a
number
who
left
to
different
locations
and
clearly
had
another
place
to
go
but
came
back
to
see
what
was
going
on
so
there
were.
I
can't
give
you
numbers,
I
don't
know
for
sure,
but
I
know
quite
a
few
had
alternatives,
but
for
those
who
don't
I
don't
have
a
good
answer.
Maybe
nuria
does.
H
Yeah
I'll
only
add,
we
were
just
in
communication
with
the
red
cross
just
a
few
hours
ago,
and
they
had
not
mentioned
that
anyone
needed
further
accommodations.
Most
people
found
sort
of
housing
with
friends
or
family
members,
but
they
also
indicated
that
if
anybody
needed
shelter
that
they
would
be
assisting
in
that
regard,
so
again
we'll
keep
you
updated
as
that
moves
forward.
But
they've
done
a
terrific
job
and
really
appreciative
of
their
work
and
partnership
to
help
those
that
were
impacted.
B
G
Yeah,
I
want
to
thank
you
as
well,
chief
and
the
entire
department.
My
question
was:
we
don't
have
very
many
large
structural
fires,
so
when
we
do,
I
think
it's
a
good
opportunity
to
see
if
the
resources
and
everything
that
is
required
to
handle,
especially
if
there
were
multiple
incidences
in
a
short
amount
of
time
or
something
along
those
lines.
Do
you
feel
confident
that
we
were
capable
and
had
everything
we
needed
for
this
and
anything
else
that
may
have
come
up
at
the
same
time,.
I
That's
a
fantastic
question.
I
I
think
we
did
and
I
think
what's
what's
really
neat
about
these
incidents.
If
anything,
if
there's
a
silver
lining
in
them
is
how
well
we're
able
to
partner
with
some
of
the
other
outside
agencies
to
help
cover
us
as
we
do
for
them.
So
it's
a
it's
a
give
and
take.
If
another
community
has
an
issue
we
go
and
help
them
as
much
as
they
come
in
and
cover
for
us.
I
I
was
able
to
actually
put
every
unit
I
have
on
this
incident
and
and
to
successfully
use
every
piece
of
equipment
that
we
needed
for
the
fire
and
allow
my
partners
to
come
in
and
and
take
over
different
parts
of
the
city.
I
While
we
were
handling
this
incident-
and
I
think
that
that
is
what
you'd
want
in
regional
cooperative
agreements
and
mutual
aid
agreements,
so
I
that
is
what
I
consider
some
of
the
the
better
cases
of
cooperation
in
public
safety
services
as
a
model
throughout
the
country
that
most
tried
to
achieve
and
and
it
was
on
it
was
on
evidence.
H
Yep,
I
just
wanted
to
add,
as
I'm
getting
some
additional
notes
from
staff
and
in
the
vein
of
thank
yous
for
all
those
that
are
helping.
We
had
the
executive
director,
jen
crowl
of
barha
reached
out
to
us
as
well
to
see
if
they
could
help
with
housing
and
they
were
connected
directly
to
the
red
cross,
so
just
wanted
to
thank
them
for
their
work
and
then
cu
who's
always
been
a
partner
with
the
city
they're,
providing
housing
and
food
for
any
cu
students
who
lost
their
apartments.
H
B
Great
well,
thank
you
for
that
nuria
and
chief
I
just
or
nuria,
maybe
to
both
of
you
have
a
couple
questions
one
is
about
when
we
will
have
a
full
search
done.
How
long
do
you
think
it
will
be
before
we've?
You
know
in
the
overhaul
and
salvage
operation
been
able
to
kind
of
check
in
on
each
of
the
apartments
and
make
sure
that
pets
and
or
folks
that
we
may
not
have
otherwise
found?
When
will
we
have
a
physical
inspection
of
the
entire
property
completed.
I
So
I'm
going
to
guess
here.
The
first
thing
is
to
make
sure,
as
you
know,
to
finish
the
investigation
and
so
we're
going
to
let
them
do
that,
but
at
the
same
time,
so
that's
probably
going
to
take
another
day
or
two
we're
going
to
try
to
assess
the
structure
itself
so
that
we
can
see
if
we
can
get
into
it
in
wherever
we
think
we
might
have
maybe
pets,
or
I
don't
think
if
we're
down
to
four.
That's
that's
key
for
folks
unaccounted
for
in
terms
of
owners.
I
If
we
can
get
a
hold
of
those
folks
and
see
where
their
units
are
in
the
structure,
we
can
actually
focus
the
search
there
rather
than
try
to
do
a
unit
by
unit
search,
especially
if
we
don't
need
to
so
it'll,
probably
take
a
few
more
days
before
we
can
get
back
in
there.
I
would
hope
by
the
end
of
the
week
we
can
have
an
assessment
to
get
in
there
and
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
confirm
that
we
have
no
victims
or
their.
A
I
That's
that's
our
plan
going
forward,
and
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
get
with
those
who
have
unaccounted
for
pets,
so
they
can
be.
They
can
tell
us
where
the
search
needs
to
be
done.
B
All
right,
perfect,
that's
great,
and
then
the
last
thought
I
had
was
as
we
go
through
the
recovery
process
and
the
salvage
and
overhaul.
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate,
but
it
certainly
seems
like
we
have
the
boulder
strong
resource
center
that
we
established
after
the
shooting-
and
I
don't
know,
is
there
any
possible
collaboration
as
far
as
directing
victims
there,
who
might
need
some
kind
of
support.
H
I
believe
so
we,
I
know
what
we
are
we're
working.
Sorry,
I
know
we're
reaching
out
as
we
move
forward
and
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
have
an
assessment
on
what
folks
needs
are,
and
we
have
certainly
also
sent
a
note
to
staff
who
we
also
don't
want
to
forget,
are
courageous
enough
to
go
in
circumstances
and
face
potential
tragedies
every
day
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that's
a
resource
to
them
as
well,
but
we
will
be
looking
at
that
sam.
B
All
right
that
is
excellent.
Again,
thank
you
to
all
involved
all
of
our
staff,
the
police,
the
fire
fighters,
as
well
as
everybody
who
supported
this
work
and
good
to
hear
that
the
mutual
aid
agreements
worked
as
they're
intended
to
do
so
again,
thanks
to
everyone
and
keep
us
posted,
please
on
developments
as
we
go
forward
with
that,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
to
open
comments
and
as
part
of
that,
I'm
going
to
try
and
remember
to
turn
to
brenda
and
brenda
if
you
could
walk
us
through
the
rules
of
public
comment.
C
C
There
is
more
information
about
this
vision
and
the
work
that
was
done
to
create
it
on
the
productive
atmospheres
page
of
our
website.
The
easiest
way
is
to
google
those
is
to
search
those
words
from
our
home
page.
C
N
C
Are
prohibited
and
participants
are
required
to
register
to
speak
using
the
name
they
are
commonly
known
by,
and
individuals
must
display
their
whole
name
before
being
allowed
to
speak
online.
Currently,
only
audio
testimony
is
permitted
online.
If
you
need
your
name
changed
and
you
don't
know
how
to
do
so.
Please
reach
out
to
me
in
the
q,
a
box
and
I'm
happy
to
change
it
for
you
and
with
that
sam.
We
are
ready
to
begin.
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much
brenda
and
we
have
five
speakers
signed
up
for
open
comment
tonight.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes
and
speakers
are
requested
not
to
address
any
of
the
four
items
that
we
have
at
the
public
hearing
tonight.
This
is
open
comment
and
not
public
hearing
on
any
of
the
specific
items
that
we
have
to
hear
later.
On
with
that
our
first
three
speakers
are
brian
maron,
lynn,
siegel
and
kim
mccarthy
brian.
When
you
are
ready,
you
will
have
two
minutes.
O
Hi
good
evening,
I
believe,
I'm
signed
up
for
the
public
hearing.
I
got
the
email
confirming
time
for
public
hearing.
It's
on
the
budget.
B
Yes,
that'll
be
later,
I
believe,
that's
the
third
or
fourth
item
we
have
tonight.
Let
me
look.
B
Okay,
very
good,
so
that'll
be
item.
5C
is
the
budget
brian
and
we'll
make
sure
that
you
are
slotted
in
for
that.
Next
then,
we
have
lynn,
siegel,
kim
mccarthy
and
patrick
murphy.
P
Well,
I
got
an
announcement
that
I
was
approved
for
open
comment,
but
I
didn't
get
a
listing
of
the
open
comment.
People
and
I
got
two
listings
of
the
public
hearing
people
a
revised
version,
so
I'm
kind
of
confused
too.
So
where
is
the
timer
sam?
I
don't
see
it.
P
We
go
okay,
yeah,
as
recently
as
1992
hogan
pancost
was
a
beautiful
wetland
with
entirely
water
for
development.
In
94,
the
owner
of
hogan
pan
cost
dumped
43
truckloads
of
unpermitted
fill
dirt
on
this
land
to
cover
up
the
water
in
2002,
the
land
was
sold
at
the
current
owners.
They
hired
a
consultant
who
recommended
that
the
remainder
of
the
wetlands
be
filled,
be
ready
to
to
ready
the
site
for
development.
In
february
of
2008,
the
owners
took
the
consultant's
advice
and
filled
in
the
wetlands.
Without
a
permit.
P
P
These
same
owners
have
now
decided
that
they
are
ready
to
have
their
land
annexed
into
our
city.
Council
members,
they
snubbed
in
2008,
morsel
and
applebaum
are
absent
tonight.
This
was
written
in
2008,
so
this
is
nothing
new
with
cu.
South
54
of
all
u.s
wetlands
have
been
drained
or
failed
for
development
purposes.
How
sad
that
the
town
once
admired
as
environmental
trendsetters
is
now
poised
to
reward
purposeful
wetland
destruct
destruction?
A
vote
in
favor
of
annexation
will
condone
crimes
against
the
earth.
P
A
vote
in
favor
of
annexation
will
establish
a
precedent
cementing
the
fact
that
intentionally
destroying
wetlands
is
an
acceptable
procedure
for
getting
your
land
annexed
into
boulder
colorado,
and
they
said
also
tonight
you
can
choose
to
hear
your
community
and
hear
your
appointed
planning
board.
Apparently
the
planning
board
was
on
the
right
side
of
that
or
you
can
choose
to
ignore
us.
P
This
is
someone
that
wrote
that
in
2008,
so
deja
vu
all
over
again
we'll
see
you
south
no
on
cu.
South
shame
on
you.
B
Q
Hi
all
this
is
actually
really
difficult
for
me
to
admit
publicly,
but
this
is
a
community
concern.
Q
This
continued
on
until
we
had
a
rodent
infestation
and
I
was
not
getting
any
type
of
resolution
or
response
from
boulder
housing
partners
who
I'll
refer
to
as
bhp
so
much
so
that
I
had
to
call
denver
fox
news.
Consumer
reports
to
have
them
come
out
and
they
finally
did
at
which
point
bhp
management
agreed
to
come
out
and
mitigate
the
rodent
infestation.
Q
Through
that
process,
I
was
physically
assaulted
twice
by
their
employees.
After
going
through
a
lot
of
this
complaining,
they
forced
me
through
a
grievance
process
that
is
unproductive
and
bullies
me.
They
have
sent
out
demands.
That
requires
me
to
get
an
attorney
to
respond
to
them,
telling
them
that
this
is
an
illegal
and
unresponsible
demand.
I
had
to
go
through
mediation.
Q
I
just
now
have
public
health
come
out
through
mediation,
they
they,
they
violated
the
terms
by
sending
me
a
demand
and
publicly
posting
what
was
said
on
my
door.
I
just
recently
had
public
health
come
out
and
only
investigate
my
property.
My
unit
and
now
my
family
has
to
get
tested
for
the
hatma
virus,
and
that
is
exactly
not
what
you
want
in
boulder
or
colorado.
R
My
name
is
patrick
murphy.
I've
lived
in
boulder
52
years.
Climate
change
is
an
existential
threat,
yet
not
one
public
meeting
of
the
excel
partnership
advisory
panel
has
occurred
in
the
11
months
since
the
mini
effort
died.
I've
presented
a
fast
and
efficient
carbon
reduction
plan
to
city
council
members
that
would
meet
with
me.
Mark
wallach
refused
to
meet
with
me
and
is
running
to
stay
on
council.
His
claims
to
listen
to
the
public
are
evidently
just
lip
service,
so
I'll
present
that
plan
in
increments
so
mark
can
hear
them.
R
Here's
solar
to
be
equitable,
based
on
usage,
with
the
assumption
that
large
electric
usage
is
from
higher
income
and
low
usage
from
lower
income
homes
provide
a
sliding
scale
of
incentives,
with
larger
incentives
for
smaller
installations
slide.
Two
please
and
smaller
and
larger
incentives
for
small
installations.
This
is
a
one-time
payment
with
decades
of
value.
For
example,
a
two
thousand
dollar
incentive
which
I
received
from
excel
in
2011
nets,
eight
dollars
and
33
cents
a
month
over
the
20
years.
R
Since
solar
costs
have
dropped
a
lot
since
2011,
a
smaller
incentive
might
achieve
the
same
result.
Boulder
currently
collects
about
seven
million
dollars
a
year
in
carbon
taxes.
So
what
if
2.2
million
were
repurposed
for
real
carbon
reduction,
200
000
for
administration
and
the
remaining
2
million
for
solar
incentives
would
result
in
1
000
homes
with
solar,
since
only
about
1
in
7
homes
is
actually
suitable
for
solar.
That
means
every
solar
capable
home
in
boulder
could
have
solar
in
six
years
or
less
slide.
Three.
R
C
I
don't
see
chris
in
the
meeting
sam,
so
perhaps
chris,
if
you're
here
under
a
different
name.
Maybe
you
can
raise
your
hand
using
the
raised
hand,
function
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.
B
I
don't
see
it
either.
Brenda
thank
you
and
with
that
we
will
bring
open
comment
to
a
close
and
bring
it
back
to
council
I'll
turn
to
you,
nuria
and
sandra
to
start
with
noria.
Do
you
have
any
comments
on
what
we
heard
tonight.
E
Yeah,
just
in
regards
to
the
testimony
from
ms
mccarthy
about
some
challenges,
she's
having
working
with
boulder
housing
partners,
I
believe
she's
written
us
a
couple
emails.
I
wonder
if
they're,
if
the
city,
maybe
our
mediation
service,
you
know,
could
contact
her
and
maybe
see
if
there's
any
way
that
we
could
help.
You
know
resolve
the
sounds
like
some
kind
of
dispute
or
issues
that
they're
having
between
each
other.
H
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
staff
and
see
what's
been
done
or
not
done,
and
perhaps
we
can
do
more
in
terms
of
contacting
mediation
on
that
thanks
aaron
thanks.
So
much.
B
B
Thanks
very
much
and
council
are
there
any
questions,
comments,
feedback
or
emotion
on
the
content
agenda.
B
F
I
will
make
a
motion
in
a
minute,
but
I
do
have
a
question
on
item
3h,
which
is
about
special
districts
in
the
general
improvement
district
and
eco
passes
in
one
neighborhood
forest
glen.
I
think
it
is-
and
I
just
haven't
seen
anything
like
that,
so
I
was
wondering
kind
of
how
that
works
and
why
that
works-
and
I
just
wanted
some
information
on
it,
because
it
was
intriguing.
A
B
I
may
have
asked
that
question
in
a
previous
year
as
well
so
staff
any
response
to
the
forest
land
transit
pass.
T
Sure
I'm
happy
to
take
a
little
bit
and
provide
some
more
information
as
we
get
into
the
budget
presentation.
But
it's
a
funding
mechanism
for
a
particular
area
to
fund
their
ecopass
through
an
additional
levy
on
the
property
tax.
And
so
we
show
it
as
a
separate
district
and
that's
how
you
approve
the
budget.
B
U
F
Okay
thanks:
well,
you
know
it's
it's
really
hard
to
get
an
eco
pass
for
neighborhoods.
I
was
just
curious
like
why
that
path
was
chosen
and
maybe
that's
a
different
there's
a
different
day
for
this
conversation.
But
you
know
if
that
works
well.
Is
that
something
that
we
want
to
replicate?
F
Is
it
something
that
that
needs
to
be
revoted
on
occasionally,
if
neighbors
don't
end
up
liking
the
levy,
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
on
the
whole
dynamics,
and
if
that's
something
that
we
should
be
here
looks
like
aaron
may
have
some
information,
no
question
different
anyways,
I'm
just
I
don't
know
if
tonight's
the
right
night
to
ask
this
because
it's
sort
of
in
the
weeds,
but
it's
intriguing.
If
it's
something
that
we
should
be
doing
in
more
places,
I
don't
know.
Maybe
sam
that's
a
question.
B
I
I
only
asked
it
for
the
same
reason
that
you
did.
It
came
up
to
the
top.
You
know
it's
highlighted
as
a
specific
item
and
I
think
it's
that
it's
a
general
improvement
district.
It's
a
great
question
as
to
whether
it's
a
good
way
to
do
it
or
not.
I
don't
I
don't
know
aaron.
Is
this
a
colloquy
or
something
separate?
No,
not
a
colloquy.
Okay,
anything
else
on
that
rachel.
F
You
know
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
to
pass
the
consent
agenda
if
it's
helpful
so
moved
great.
E
I
just
want
to
speak
briefly
to
3n,
which
is
about
changing
some
parking
regulations
and
in
parts
and
open
space,
and
I
just
want
to
call
out
that
that
seemed
like
a
really
great
process
that
was
followed.
You
know
that
a
proposal
is
put
out
by
staff
to
change,
to
tweak
the
parking
hours
slightly
to
account
for
some
issues
that
have
arisen.
You
know
it
was
shown
to
the
community.
It
was
worked
through
the
open
space
board.
E
They
came
up
with
a
consensus
decision,
it's
a
very
reasonable
change,
and
now
it's
on
our
consent
agenda.
So
I
just
want
to
call
that
out
as
a
great
way
of
letting
a
board
do
the
like
work
on
a
proposal
with
the
community
and
so
kudos
to
everyone
involved,
and
we
can
continue
to
look
for
other
opportunities
to
let
boards
do
that
kind
of
work
on
on
smaller
proposals
like
that.
B
M
F
G
D
B
Excellent,
and
with
that,
I
will
turn
to
our
recruitment
subcommittee,
bob
and
rachel.
V
Okay,
that's
I'm
happy
too
well
rachel,
and
I
were
tasked
several
months
ago
with
with
a
process
to
present
to
counsel
our
recommendations
on
our
new
city
attorney
council
members
have
had
the
opportunity.
This
is
the
second
time
we've
gone
through
this
process.
You
might
recall
that
we
got
down
to
finalists
last
time
and
then
council
collectively
decided
to
go
back
out
and
see
what
other
applicants
there
might
be.
We
did
a
second
round
of
applications.
We
received
some
really
good
applications,
the
second
time
it
was
a
win-win
process.
V
We
went,
I
think,
from
12
applications
to
seven
to
five.
Those
were
interviewed
a
council
then
selected
three
finalists
out
of
that
group,
and
they
were
they
were
again
interviewed
and
the
recommendation
that
rachel
and
I
are
making
is
for
the
appointment
as
our
next
city
attorney
of
a
woman
named
teresa
taylor,
tate
up
until
recently,
she
has
been
the
deputy
city
attorney
for
the
city
of
longmont
and
that's
our
recommendation.
I'll
have
a
couple
other
comments
in
a
few
minutes,
but
I
wanted
to
pause
there
with
our
recommendation.
V
See
if
rachel
has
some
comments
to
add
to
that.
F
No,
I
think
you
covered
it
well,
we
did
have
three
outstanding
finalists
and
it
was
a
hard
decision
and-
and
we
appreciate
as
the
subcommittee,
everyone
from
staff
and
our
colleagues
working
so
hard
to
do
this
process
twice.
It's
been
long
and
believering.
So
thanks
for
sticking
with
us-
and
I
do
have
a
formal
motion
language
when,
when
the
time's
right.
B
B
B
P
Oh
okay,
I
didn't
realize
there
were
three:
there
was
budget
and
another
one
too.
I
don't
really
have
anything
to
say
about
the
public
attorney,
except
that
I'd
like
to
see
a
much
more
robust
inclusion
of
the
public
in
this
choice.
Because
boy,
you
know
we
fight
it
once
we
have
that
person
in
there
and
they
get
a
living
h
to
deal
with,
and
so
it
would
be
a
lot
nicer
if
we
had
a
way
of
really
knowing
a
lot
more
about
who's
coming
in.
P
P
It's
it's
really
not
a
very
open
process,
and
I
just
can't
really
support
anybody
that
you
choose,
but
you
can
bet
that
I'll
be
complaining
about
them
once
they're
in
and
it'd
be
nice.
If
that
were
not
the.
B
V
I'll
just
make
a
comment
on
my
own
recommendation.
As
rachel
said,
this
was
a
very
difficult
decision.
We
had
three
extremely
well
qualified
candidates.
V
One
of
our
candidates
was
internal,
and
that
made
the
decision
in
some
regards
even
more
difficult,
because
we
will
always
want
to
encourage
our
employees,
our
city
employees,
to
apply
for
opportunities
to
expand
and
grow,
and
we
did
not
take
this
decision
lightly,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
encourage
all
employees
in
the
city
to
apply
for
positions
that
give
them
the
opportunity
to
grow
and
expand,
and
so
the
fact
that
we're
not
recommending
the
internal
candidate
should
not
be
taken
by
anyone
as
a
reflection
on
our
discouragement
of
of
of
of
candidates
within
the
city
to
apply,
and
we
hope
that
that
that
continues.
B
You're
good
mary.
M
I'd
like
to
agree
with
bob
with
respect
to
this
is
not
reflection
on
anything
that
had
to
do
with
the
quality
of
candidates
that
we
received.
I
also
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
address
whatever
barriers
that
there
might
be
for
internal
candidates
in
applying
and
maybe
even
set
up
some
sort
of
program
that
encourages
and
and
develops
employees
which
we
have
most
excellent
staff
to
aspire
to
the
top
roles
within
the
city.
M
So,
for
example,
we
addressed
one
of
the
barriers
between
the
first
set
of
candidates
and
the
second
set
of
candidates,
and
that
was
the
residency
requirement
and,
and
that
seemed
to
make
quite
a
big
difference,
and
it
makes
me
wonder
what
other
barriers
we
have
in
the
system.
I
also
think
that
our
process
tends
to
really
be
biased
towards
going
out
and
looking
outside
of
the
city
organization,
and
how
can
that
be
made
more
welcoming
toward
internal
candidates
again,
because
I
think
we
have
excellent
excellent
staff.
M
That
should
not
be
discouraged
from
aspiring
to
those
top
roles,
and
so
I
very
much
agree
with
bob.
And
for
me
it
was
a
very,
very
difficult
decision
and.
E
Aaron
yeah
I'll
agree
with
that
as
well.
It's
very
difficult,
challenging
decision.
You
know
I'll,
be
supporting
the
the
recommendation
that
the
sub
committee
appreciate
all
the
work
bob
and
rachel
that
you
did
with
the
two
rounds,
but
just
want
to
say
sandra
you've
done
a
phenomenal
job
as
interim
city
attorney,
and
I
want
to
really
thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
and
just
say
that
I
really
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
together.
E
B
Thank
you,
aaron.
Anyone
else
wish
to
weigh
in
I
I'll
jump
in
then.
I
want
to
say
that
I
will
be
supporting
the
recommendation
that's
being
brought
forward
tonight.
I
will
also
say,
like
my
fellow
colleagues,
that
it
was
a
very
difficult
decision
to
arrive
at
there
were
lots
of
discussions
and
trade-offs,
and
it
is
a
reflection
of
the
high
quality
of
the
candidates
that
we
had
that
it
was
such
a
difficult
decision.
B
I
I
want
to
thank
also
bob
and
rachel
for
all
the
work
that
you've
had
to
do.
I
know
that
this
was
a
heavy
lift
and
also
thank
sandra
very
much
for
stepping
up
into
the
interim
city
attorney
role.
You've
been
excellent
and
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
and
like
aaron.
I
look
forward
to
well.
I
won't
personally
be
here
to
do
work
going
into
the
future,
but
I
look
forward
to
you
being
able
to
continue
to
support
council
in
the
city
with
your
great
work
with
that
nuri.
B
I
know
that
you
had
asked
to
say
a
few
words
as
well,
so
I'd
like
to
turn
to
nuria.
In
any
wisdom,
you
might
have
on
this
issue.
H
And
so
I
just
I
know
her
to
be
a
truly
servant
leader.
I
think
she
has
been
a
critical
part
of
our
entire
city
leadership
team
and
I
know
and
hope
that
we
will
continue
to
benefit
from
sandra's
insight
and
leadership
well
into
the
future.
And
I
I
believe
I
speak
wholeheartedly
not
just
for
myself
sandra,
but
for
your
entire
leadership
team
in
just
a
huge
gratitude
for
all
you've
done.
B
B
F
Yep,
the
committee
recommends
council
consideration
of
this
matter
in
action
in
the
form
of
this
motion
motion
to
accept
the
recommendation
of
the
council
recruitment
committee
to
appoint
teresa
taylor,
tate
as
city
attorney,
and
to
authorize
mayor
sam
weaver
and
city
manager,
nuria
rivera
vandermeide
to
execute
an
employment
contract
with
miss
taylor.
Tate,
including
the
terms
set
forth
in
the
agenda
memo,
so
moved.
O
D
V
B
Very
good,
thank
you
very
much
and
sandra,
thank
you
again
for
serving
as
interim
city
attorney
and
for
all
the
work
you've
done
for
the
city
so
far
and.
S
S
S
I
would
also
like
to
thank
the
city
departments
and
leadership
for
supporting
me
and
the
city
attorney's
office
during
this
transition
to
my
colleagues
at
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
am
deeply
grateful
and
proud
of
your
dedication,
professionalism
and
commitment
by
going
above
and
beyond,
in
supporting
the
city's
legal
work
each
and
every
day,
and
particularly
during
the
last
six
months
of
transition.
B
D
Yes,
sir,
our
next
item
on
tonight's
agenda
is
item
5b,
which
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance,
8504,
changing
licensing
requirements
for
marijuana,
key
holders,
circuses,
carnivals
and
miniaturies
mobile
food
vehicles,
insurance
merchants,
tobacco
retailers
and
secondhand
dealers
and
prime
brokers
by
amending
title
four
license
and
permits
section.
6-14-8
requirements
related
to
operation
of
medical
marijuana,
businesses,
6-16-8
requirements
related
to
operation
of
recreation,
recreational
marijuana,
businesses
and
9-6-6
mobile
food,
vehicle
sales,
brc,
1981
and
setting
forth
related
details.
W
So
this
evening,
we're
before
you
with
some
requested
changes
to
the
miscellaneous
licenses
that
we
process,
so
we
are
recommending
changes
to
title
four,
which
are
general
licenses,
general
city
licenses
and
also
a
change
to
title
six,
which
is
the
medical
marijuana
and
recreational
marijuana
code
with
me.
This
evening
is
also
detective,
edmund
burke
and
he
will
provide
additional
comment
and
is
able
to
answer
any
questions
having
to
do
with
more
detailed
changes
to
the
secondhand
dealer
license
type.
So
with
that,
you
can
take
us
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
W
So
the
first
change,
or
the
first
comment
that
I
will
make
is
we
have
reached
out
to
both
internal
and
external
customers
prior
to
coming
to
council.
For
these
particular
changes.
W
We
have
informed
our
cannabis
licensing
and
advisory
board
of
the
recommended
change
to
marijuana
key
holders
so
that
we
take
a
marijuana,
a
key
holder
form
as
opposed
to
an
application
and
a
fee.
We've
also
reached
out
to
boulder
county
health
department,
they're
a
close
partner
of
ours
having
to
do
with
mobile
food
vehicles
in
particular.
W
In
addition
to
that,
we
have
sent
an
email
to
all
miscellaneous
licenses
who
currently
hold
the
four
license:
types
that
we're
suggesting
changing
from
one
year
to
two
year.
So
all
of
our
current
licensee
leads
we
have
reached
out
via
email
and
we
held
one
call-in
session
on
september
23rd
and
also
allowed
them
to
submit
email
comments
if
they
wish
to
our
main
email
account-
and
we
didn't
have
anyone
call
in
during
our
call-in
section
session
and
we
haven't
received
any
email
comments
which
was
negative
for
the
change.
So,
okay
next
slide.
W
So
the
part
one
changes
that
we
are
suggesting
is
we
are
suggesting
changing
our
current
process
for
city
licensing
for
marijuana
key
holders
from
an
application
which
is
about
10
pages
longer.
It
was
10
pages
long
with
the
city
fee
that
we
collect
and
process
instead
to
a
one-page
disclosure
form
for
marijuana
city
keyholders.
W
W
W
X
Much
of
what
is
contained
within
the
proposed
changes
to
the
boulder
revised
code
relates
to
clarifying
the
expectation
of
secondhand
dealers
by
the
city
of
boulder.
The
brc
relating
to
secondhand
dealers
has
not
been
updated.
Since
the
80s
and
in
regards
to
businesses
that
the
brc
defines
as
secondhand
dealers,
they
are
actually
considered
as
pawn
brokers
by
state
law
in
the
colorado,
revised
statutes.
X
W
W
So
I'll
give
you
an
example
so
for
mobile
food
vehicle
licenses,
those
license
types
need
to
be
inspected
and
approved
by
boulder
county
health
because
they're
making
food
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
they
need
to
be
inspected
by
boulder
fire.
They
need
to
be
passed
by
boulder
fire,
so
if
it
is
a
two-year
license
on
the
second
year
after
the
mobile
food
vehicle
licensee
is
licensed.
B
M
Yes,
thank
you
michonne
for
the
presentation.
My
questions
are
fairly
straightforward
on
the
marijuana
key
holders,
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
this
is
changing
is
because
there
are
no
longer
background
checks
required.
Could
you
go
over
what
what
is
behind
there?
No
longer
being
background
checks.
W
So
that,
actually
is
a
is
a
change
that
we
put
in
place
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
this
to
me
sort
of
seems
like
the
next
logical.
You
know
evolution
of
that,
so
the
circumstances
is
probably
with
many
other
types
of
businesses
there's
a
great
deal
of
turnover,
and
so
we
it's
that
way
with
bars
and
restaurants
as
well,
but
we
reserve
our
background
checking
and
our
vetting
and
our
financial
reviews
now
for
owners
officers
managing
members,
those
people
that
actually
can
exercise
control
and
oversight
of
marijuana
businesses.
W
It
is
the
case
for
city
key
holders
that
they
need
to
be
background,
checked
by
the
state
division.
In
any
event,
so
they
have
to
have
a
state
card,
whether
it
be
a
support
card
or
a
key
card,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
do
ask
for
the
state
number
on
the
key
holder
form.
So
we
know
that
they've
been
background
checked
by
the
state,
but
it
really
is
just
a
one-page
disclosure
form
to
the
city
office.
Now,
so
that's
what
we
were
learning.
M
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
also.
I
was
not
entirely
clear
if
the
ordinance
changes,
the
ones
that
are
the
six
ordinance
changes
on.
It
is
page
five
of
the
memo
and
packet
page
283.
M
W
I
I
probably
will
defer
to
detective
burke
and
perhaps
kathy
haddock,
but
what
I
would
say
is
it's
the
reverse.
We
are
aligning
the
boulder
revised
code
with
the
state
law
which
is
applicable
to
that
particular
business
type.
What
we
have
found
is
that
there
quite
honestly,
is
some
confusion
with
businesses
you
know
do.
I
know
I
have
to
follow
the
state
law,
but
the
city
law
is
different.
W
It
has
different
time
periods,
it
has
different
values,
I
mean
you
know
what's
what's,
which
one
shall
I
follow
and
we're
we're
making
it
consistent
between
the
two
applicable
laws.
M
Okay,
great
just
wanted
to
be
clear
on
that.
That's
all
I
have
thank
you.
B
Thanks
mary
all
right,
council,
any
other
questions
all
right
with
that
we
will
go
to
the
public
hearing.
We
have
one
person
signed
up
for
the
public
hearing
tonight.
That
is
lynn
siegel.
So
then
you
will
have
three
minutes
and
the
subject
is
licensing.
P
You
are
sorry
I
had
to
go,
get
some
warm
clothes,
I'm
freezing
it's
50
degrees
in
my
house.
B
All
right,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
the
timer
then,
and
you
have
three.
You
have
three
minutes.
P
Okay
and
I'd
say
no
pawn
brokers
and
no
marijuana
industries
whatsoever
should
be
licensed
in
boulder
at
all,
but
I'm
a
prohibitionist
too,
unlike
bob
yates.
So
that's
just
me,
I
don't,
I
don't
believe
in
any
kind
of
drugs.
What
the
the
struggles
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
world,
the
starving
people.
We
don't
need
to
be
pawn
broking.
We
don't
need
to
be
marijuana,
dealing,
we
don't
need
to
be
dealing
drugs
and
alcohol,
or
any
of
that
we
need
to
make
our
world
a
fairer
place.
B
M
To
it,
I
move
to
adopt
ordinance,
8405,
changing
licensing
requirements
for
marijuana,
key
holders,
circuses,
carnivals
and
menageries
mobile
food
vehicles,
itinerant
merchants,
tobacco
retailers
and
secondhand
dealers
and
palm
brokers
by
amending
title
iv
licenses
and
permits
section
6-4-8
requirements
related
to
operation
of
medical
marijuana,
6-16-8
requirements
related
to
operation
of
recreational
marijuana,
businesses
and
9-6-6
mobile
food
vehicle
sales,
brc,
1981
and
setting
forth
related
details.
B
M
Anything
that
updates
our
code
that
hadn't
been
updated,
since
the
1980s
is
a
fabulous
thing
to
do
so
all
for
it
all.
B
E
Thanks
mary
aaron:
well,
we
just
know
how
much
of
a
problem
that
the
carnival
and
menagerie
regulations
have
been
over
the
last
couple
decades.
So
this
is
a
long
overdue
update
to
those,
but
in
all
seriousness,
I
appreciate
how
this
is
kind
of
smooth
thing,
smoothing
things
over
and
producing
kind
of
bureaucratic,
drag
on
city
staff
and
on
some
of
our
businesses
locally.
So
thanks
for
this
work,
I
appreciate
it.
B
Great
thanks,
aaron
and
I'll
jump
in
and
say
it
looks
like
this
will
save
a
serious
amount
of
paperwork
time
for
at
least
one
staff
member,
and
so
it
looks
like
these
are
an
efficiency
improvement
as
well
as
everything
else
that
goes
along
with
it.
I
have
to
say
that
I
do
love
the
categories
that
are
being
amended.
Itinerant
merchant
is
not
something
I
was
familiar
with
until
the
update.
So
that's
great.
B
This
all
looks
like
really
good
work,
and
I
agree
with
mary
that
we
should
endeavor
to
make
sure
that
we
review
our
code
more
frequently
if
we
can
find
these
kind
of
improvements
in
it.
So
with
that,
any
other
comments
doesn't
look
like
it
so
alicia.
Is
this
a
show
of
hands,
or
is
this
a
roll
call.
F
G
B
B
D
Our
next
item
is
num
item
5c.
It
is
the
consideration
of
the
following
items
relating
to
the
2022
budget
item
number.
One
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance,
8505
adopting
the
budget
for
the
city
of
boulder
colorado
for
the
fiscal
year
commencing
on
the
first
day
of
january
2022
and
ending
on
the
last
day
of
december
2022
and
setting
forth
related
details.
D
Item
number
three:
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance,
8507
appropriating
money
to
defray
expenses
and
liabilities
of
the
city
of
boulder
colorado
for
the
2022
fiscal
year
of
the
city
of
boulder,
commencing
on
the
first
day
of
january
2022
and
ending
on
the
last
day
of
december
2022
and
setting
forth
related
details
and
item
number
four.
The
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance,
8508
amending
chapter
4-20,
titled
fees
and
section
3-8-3,
titled
tax
imposed
on
non-residential
and
residential
development.
T
There
is
a
lot
on
this
slide.
What
I
will
point
you
to
is
appendix
a
of
your
packet
information
on
this
item
that
outlines
the
changes
year
over
year
and
going
back
pre-pandemic
to
2019
actuals
against
our
2022
proposed
budget
by
department.
The
reason
we're
giving
you
this
information
is.
There
was
some
conversation
of
trying
to
look
at
an
apples
to
apples
comparison
pre
to
pre-pandemic,
to
where
we
are
now,
and
with
that
we
had
to
make
a
number
of
adjustments
to
give
you
that
apples
to
apples
comparison.
T
You
will
notice
some
larger
figures
there
that
jump
out
when
we're
looking
at
compound
annual
growth
rate
over
the
years.
Obviously,
a
lot
happens
during
that
period
of
time.
So
we
tried
to
take
some
of
those
out
make
those
adjustments
to
to
have
it
make
sense,
any
adjustments
we
made
or
are
caveated
within
that
information.
There
are
more
detailed
notes
in
the
appendix
which
helps
with
some
of
these
larger
percent
amounts.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
what
the
changes
were
from
19
to
the
recommended
budget
in
2022.
T
T
We
continue
to
try
to
get
back
to
where
we
were
in
terms
of
investment
in
our
employ
our
employees
and
also
recognize
the
sacrifice
that
they
have
made
during
the
pandemic.
That
represents
a
little
3.3
million.
That
is,
in
addition
to
the
staffing
increases
that
we
hope
will
help
with
capacity
issues
across
the
organization
and
last
capital
improvements.
As
I
mentioned,
162
million
dollar
budget
there,
major
investments
in
water
wastewater,
stormwater
projects
that
also
includes
alpine
balsam
flood
mitigation,
soil
health
projects
and
multimodal
enhancements.
T
And
this
slide
is
to
address
some
of
the
questions
that
we've
had
coming
in
related
to
arts
and
culture
budget.
What
you
see
here
is
a
multi-year
representation
of
arts
and
culture
budget.
The
blue
bar
is
the
total
division
budget.
The
the
orange
bar
is
included
in
that,
but
that
breaks
out
the
cultural
grants
that
go
out
to
organizations
every
year.
What
you
see
in
2020
does
not
represent
the
cuts
that
we
had
to
take
due
to
the
pandemic.
T
T
The
874
650
is
the
original
budget
that
shaded
area
that
that
you
see
your
slightly
less
dark
area
is
about
157
000
that
was
approved
in
special
atb
as
a
part
of
a
restoration.
So
that
gets
you
a
little
over
a
million
in
in
grants
and
21..
The
proposed
budget
in
2022
is
about
flat
to
where
we
ended
up
in
21..
T
T
Our
arts
commission
on
is
teeing
up
that
conversation
as
a
part
of
the
the
revision,
the
renewal
of
the
cultural
plan
in
in
2023
24
in
the
in
the
coming
years,
and
we
do
have
matt
shansky,
who
can
get
into
more
details
of
the
changes
of
the
years
and
some
of
the
plans,
as
we've
discussed
them
with
arpa
and
coming
up
to
that
renewal
of
our
cultural
plan.
T
B
V
V
I
see
that
the
overall
budget,
the
blue
line,
has
about
tripled,
since
we
adopted
the
cultural
master
plan
in
2015
from
540
000
to
almost
1.6
million
in
this
proposed
budget,
and
mark
mentioned
that
that
there
may
be
some
backfill
temporary
and
not
permanent
backfill
for
arpa
or
additional
funds
for
marpa,
but
but
mark
also
observed
that
that's
obviously
not
recurring,
and
it
doesn't
get
us
to
our
goal.
What
is
our
goal?
What
are
we
hoping
to
get
to?
V
I
mean
when
will
we
say
all
right,
we're
at
level
of
funding
that
we're
happy
with.
Y
Y
That's
in
2015
dollars,
however,
and
so
you
know
taking
into
account
inflation
and
especially
with
public
art
and
the
cost
of
construction.
That's
raised
and
also
some
programming
that
we
didn't
anticipate
in
2015,
especially
in
the
past
few
years,
with
the
pandemic
and
the
ongoing
needs
there.
It's
probably
over
that
two
million
dollar
mark
okay,
thank
you.
Man.
M
Yeah,
I
also
have
a
question
for
matt.
What
is
the
timing
for
the
renewal
of
the
arts
and
culture
master
plan.
Y
So
the
current
cultural
plan
expires
in
2024,
so
we're
hoping
to
have
a
new
plan
or
renew
this
plan
for
january
1st
2025.
M
And
what
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
you
anticipate
might
be
addressed
in
that
renewal.
Y
Well,
I
think
a
lot
has
changed
since
2015
and
especially
around
the
affordability
issues
and
support
for
artists
as
small
business
owners.
Those
issues
were
pointed
out,
but
have
been
a
growing
concern
over
the
years,
and
the
approach
to
venues
is
another
issue
I
think
is
going
to
change
in
that
next
cultural
plan,
the
mix
of
venues,
affordability
for
artists
and
organizations
to
rent
them
and
what
new
venues
we
should
bring
online.
Y
L
L
U
Hey
mark
this
is
cara,
so
you're,
looking
at
the
actual
ordinance
and
the
appropriating
amounts
by
fund,
I
believe,
is
that
correct.
U
So
on
that
chart,
where
mark
showed
the?
Maybe
you
can
pull
it
back
up
mark,
but
the
462
million
dollars.
It
says
that
it
excludes
into
internal
services
and
transfers,
and
so
that
462
million
dollars
is
sort
of
a
true
net
number.
But
when
we
appropriate,
we
have
to
appropriate
across
all
funds.
U
So
we
that
462
million
dollar
number
is
sort
of
avoiding
double
counting,
essentially.
L
Fair
enough,
I
I
got
it
and
I
noted
on
I
think
again.
It
was
page
six
of
the
staff
memo
that,
even
after
we
delete
the
12.3
million
dollars
for
30
perl,
we
actually
have
a
decline
in
housing
and
human
services
expenditures
from
the
period
2019
to
2022,
which
just
seems
a
little
odd
to
me.
In
light
of
the
expanded
nature
of
you
know
their
responsibilities
and
the
conditions
that
we're
experiencing
in
the
city.
Can
anybody
speak
to
that
at
all.
U
You
may
recall
last
year
during
the
budget
process,
we
in
our
second
reading-
or
I
think
it
actually
might
have
gone
to
a
third
reading
last
year-
had
a
slide
sort
of
right
that
addressed
housing
and
human
services
budget,
and
that
is
that
they
that
comparison,
that
you're
looking
at
from
2019
actual
to
2022
budget
and
that
2019
actual
captures
budgeted
monies
that
they
budget
a
lot
of
their
money
off
cycles
through
the
atb
processes.
U
So
what
they
always
budget
during
the
original
budget
in
the
fall
is
is
often
significantly
less
than
what
their
eventual
budget
is
come
may
and
and
their
actual
spending
does
vary
a
lot.
We
we
incorporated
the
largest
increase
in
spending
or
the
largest
big
spending
in
2019
in
the
description
in
that
table,
but
they
also
just
because
their
their
projects
and
such
vary
a
lot
year
to
year,
and
so
then
they
reappropriate
the
the
remaining
dollars.
But
I
would
invite
housing
and
human
services
if
they
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
L
U
A
lot
of
our
capital
departments
do
transportation,
but
a
lot
of
the
transportation
dollars
are
capital
and
the
capital
automatically
rolls
to
the
next
year.
So
I
think
housing
and
human
services
may
be
one
of
the
departments
that
has
the
most
operating
budget
that
they
then
carry
over
and
re-appropriate
through
the
first
atb.
J
Explaining
that
the
only
thing
I'll
add
is
that
so
our
commercial
impact
fees
and
our
cash
and
loot
payments
typically
come
mid-year,
usually
in
july,
is
when
we
get
about
80
of
those
funds,
at
least
for
cash
and
blue,
and
so
we
don't
it's
hard
to
anticipate
the
income
that
we'll
receive
in
any
particular
year
until
we
get
it
actually
into
the
year,
and
you
know,
cash
and
lieu
can
range
anywhere
from
3
million
a
year
to
12
or
13
million
a
year.
J
So
it's
we
go
into
the
budgeting
process
in
a
fairly
conservative
approach
and
then
make
changes
to
the
atb
as
necessary.
Thank
you.
B
B
The
first
three
speakers
that
we
have
tonight
are
lynn
siegel,
nicole
speer
and
brian
marin
lynn.
You
are
up,
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak
about
our
budget.
P
First,
the
464
million,
or
approximately
that
the
utility
bonding
being
high
this
year
because
of
it
we
needed
to
do
that
activity
that
year
could
be
a
lot
lower
if
we
media
supplies.
So
I
highly
recommend
we
we
municipalize
in
no
in
2025
or
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can
and
bring
some
of
that
money
back
into
our
own
community.
P
The
substance
abuse
that
8
million
that's
happening
a
lot
because
we
can't
seem
to
manage
our
affordable
housing
very
well
in
boulder
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
people
in
despair
and
when
they're
in
despair,
they
go
into
substance
abuse
and
then,
when
they
go
into
substance,
abuse
michael
bosma
makes
a
a
pile
of
money
out
of
it.
P
When
he's
got
two
projects
going
on
311
mapleton,
which
gets
him
nets
him
10
to
50
000
a
month
per
person
for
93
people,
or
something
like
that,
and
those
are
seniors
that
that
that
money
could
go
to
their
kids.
Their
kids
aren't
getting
the
money,
so
their
kids
are
probably
the
ones
in
despair
that
michael
can
take
care
of
at
september
school,
which
he
plans
to
put
a
54
person
facility
for
drug
rehabilitation,
with
all
of
four
count
on
four
people
supervising
the
place
at
nine
thousand
dollars
a
month.
P
So
the
this,
the
money
that
we're
spending
is
in
the
wrong
places.
We
should
be
not
building
so
much
that
we're
driving
the
wealth,
inequality
and
therefore
substance
abuse.
The
other
thing.
P
Water,
the
capital,
improvements
and
water
is,
is
really
stressful
when
we're
growing
as
much
as
we
are
when
we're
growing
alpine
balsam
on
a
basis
of
of
transit,
oriented
development,
which
is
not
happening
anymore
since
the
virus,
and
we
need
to
just
stop
all
this
building
building
building
because
it's
it's
not
boulder
might
be
a
desirable
place
and
we're
already
going
to
have
financial
issues
with
housing
here.
But
let's
not
make
it
worse.
P
P
Well,
you
need
to
improve
your
system
there,
because
I
have
no
vision
of
20
seconds
or
anything.
So
you
know-
and
I
really
like
to
know
to.
B
Be
able
to
thank
you,
lynn.
Your
time
is
up
appreciate
your
input
with
that
we'll
move
on
to
nicole
speer,
brian
maron
and
ryan
bonik
nicole.
Z
Z
So
thank
you
for
giving
the
next
council
and
our
entire
city
a
leg
up
next
year.
Budgets
are
my
favorite
organizational
documents,
because
you
can
tell
so
much
about
what
an
organization
values
by
looking
at
how
it
spends
its
money,
organizations
and
people
can
say
they
value
all
kinds
of
things,
but
action
requires
time
and
money.
This
is
why
so
many
people
who
work
on
racial
and
social
justice
issues
refer
to
budgets
as
moral
documents.
They
show
our
priorities
and
values
and
the
way
we
care
for
each
other
and
the
people
in
our
community.
Z
As
you
know,
I'm
currently
running
for
one
of
the
open
seats
on
city
council
and,
as
you
also
know
from
your
own
city,
council
campaigns.
This
means
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
year
talking
with
people
in
many
different
parts
of
our
community.
Trying
to
understand
their
concerns
and
their
hopes
and
dreams
for
themselves
and
for
our
city.
Z
That's
threatening
all
of
us,
but
that
will
affect
them
most
of
all.
When
I
look
at
our
2022
budget,
I
don't
see
social
justice,
housing,
homelessness
and
climate
represented
to
the
degree
people
in
our
community
say
they
want
us
to
focus
on
these
issues.
I
also
don't
see
the
vision
and
core
values
of
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan
reflected
in
our
budget.
Z
I
don't
think
that's
true,
it's
too
late
to
make
big
changes
for
this
next
year,
but
for
those
of
you
who
will
be
staying
on
for
the
next
council
and
for
those
of
us
who
may
be
joining
you
next
month.
I
want
to
challenge
us
to
think
about
what
a
budget
would
look
like.
That
accurately
reflects
our
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan
vision.
Z
B
O
Good
evening
council,
mayor
weaver
city
manager,
my
name
is
brian
maron
and
tonight,
I'm
speaking
to
you
on
behalf
of
the
boulder
association
of
firefighters,
to
let
council
and
the
members
of
the
community
know
of
a
budgetary
decision
will
have
negative
impacts
on
the
services
we're
able
to
provide
the
community.
The
proposed
budget
for
next
year
includes
a
30
000
cut
to
the
fire
department
budget.
O
That's
specifically
earmarked
for
the
funding
of
the
water
rescue
team.
The
30
thousand
dollar
cut
is
the
entire
budget
of
the
water
rescue
team.
For
over
40
years,
the
city
of
boulder
fire
department
has
had
a
team
of
specially
trained
individuals
capable
of
rescuing
victims
from
moving
water
like
boulder
creek
in
the
flood
waters
of
2013,
and
also
open
water
like
boulder
reservoir
and
countless
other
lakes
and
ponds
spread
throughout
boulder
on
average.
Each
year
the
team
is
dispatched
to
around
30
calls
for
service
in
the
boulder
community.
O
Not
all
the
calls
turn
into
rescues,
but
some
of
them
do.
We
have
safe
stranded,
kids
and
tubers
off
the
rocks
of
boulder
creek,
and
we
have
pulled
victims
out
of
the
waters,
voter
reservoir
and
other
areas.
As
it
stands
right
now,
we
will
no
longer
be
providing
these
services
as
of
january
1st
2022,
despite
having
properly
trained
and
equipped
personnel.
O
Our
chief
has
asked
the
executive
budget
team
three
times
to
restore
the
funding
without
success,
although
he
has
told
us
that
if
swift
water
rescue
is
a
risk
for
the
community,
we
will
find
money
to
support
it.
There
is
no
money
dedicated
to
maintaining
the
training
levels
and
equipment
needed
to
be
successful,
and
if
we
are
able
to
support
swift
water
rescue,
the
funds
that
have
been
budgeted
for
other
reasons,
we
will
certainly
not
be
able
to
support
subsurface
rescue
and
recovery
of
victims
in
the
community.
O
The
news
that
our
department
will
be
lowering
our
service
level
to
the
community
boulder
at
the
start
of
the
new
year
has
been
devastating
to
the
morale
of
our
members.
The
firefighters,
the
city
of
boulder
pride
ourselves
on
being
highly
trained
and
well
equipped
in
order
to
handle
any
type
of
emergency
call
that
we
receive
history
has
shown
that
a
small
percentage
of
the
nearly
15
000
calls
we
receive
annually
will
be
for
a
water
rescue.
O
These
rescues,
whether
swift,
water
or
subsurface
take
an
additional
level
of
training
and
preparation
that
many
of
our
members
have
worked
hard
to
attain.
It
will
be
a
disservice
to
the
community
to
have
these
valuable
resources
that
are
ready
and
willing
to
help
in
the
case
of
emergency,
forced
to
sit
and
watch
when
the
next
opportunity
comes.
O
The
mission
statement
of
the
fire
department
is:
we
exist
to
protect
lives
and
property
from
harm
through
effective
risk
reduction,
emergency
response
and
recovery
assistance.
The
water
rescue
team
is
an
integral
part
of
providing
emergency
response
and
recovery
in
the
community.
If
the
funding
is
not
restored,
which
is
less
than
seven
one
thousandths
of
one
percent
of
the
entire
budget
for
the
city
of
boulder
next
year,
our
members
will
be
forced
to
sit
and
watch
along
with
all
the
other
family
members
and
bystanders.
O
The
next
time
someone
falls
through
the
ice
and
does
not
resurface
or
sit
and
watch
when
a
boat
sinks
to
the
reservoir
or
when
a
triathlete
has
a
heart
attack
and
goes
underwater.
Despite
having
the
appropriate
training
equipment
and
willing
personnel,
we
will
be
the
ones
to
have
to
tell
a
parent
that
we
will
not
go
in
the
water
to
save
their
child.
B
AA
Thank
you
hi,
council
and
staff.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I'll.
Try
to
keep
this
super
short
just
want
to
start
by
commenting,
it's
kind
of
weird
that
the
budget
for
a
new
council
elected
in
just
two
weeks
is
decided
prior
to
them
even
taking
office.
Why
does
the
outgoing
council
decide
how
the
city's
money
is
spent?
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
shift
that
around
somehow.
So
the
new
council
can
decide
on
the
budget
plenty
of
companies
fiscal
years.
Don't
follow
calendar
years.
I
don't
know
why
voters
needs
to.
AA
As
for
the
budget
itself,
police
chief
harold
came
before
you
all
and
asked
for
2.7
million
dollars
from
coveted
funding.
I
prefer
that
money
and
at
minimum
the
additional
money
increases
being
provided
to
the
police
in
the
2022
budget
instead
be
relocated
to
a
non-violent
program
like
denver's
star
program.
AA
AA
Let's
stop
subsidizing
single
occupancy
vehicles
and
start
investing
more
in
a
climate
aware
and
eco-focused
future
like
boulder
claims
to
value
by
instead
funding
things
like
public
transit
and
bike
infrastructure.
The
pandemic
has
led
to
skyrocketing
sales
of
e-bikes
up
240
percent
this
past
year
alone.
Let's
support
those
people
instead
of
supporting
cars.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
AB
AB
The
2020
budget
was
proposed
with
a
conservative
fiscal
approach,
focusing
on
essential
services
and
a
strictly
balanced
budget
with
no
new
expenses,
and
I
just
want
to
pause
and
commend
the
current
city
staff
and
the
city
manager's
office
for
this
shift
in
tone
that
seeks
to
balance
cautious
optimism
with
fiscal
stewardship,
with
a
focus
on
human-centered
priorities,
services
that
have
quote
the
highest
impact
on
those
who
live,
work
and
visit
boulder
and
an
investment
in
city
staff.
That's
designed
to
support
important
community
gathering
places
and
beloved
services.
AB
This
language
is
a
marked
shift
in
recognizing
the
role
of
local
government
as
being
for
and
about
community
and
investing
the
city
budget.
Accordingly,
back
in
the
fall
of
2019,
there
was
a
last-minute
budget
adjustment
to
close
the
gap
of
inadequate
government
funding
to
the
city's
largest
cultural
destinations,
which
resulted
in
a
one-time
facilities
grant
for
arts
and
culture
institutions.
AB
Then,
last
year,
in
the
fall
of
2020
council
restored
a
chunk
of
the
arts
and
culture
budget,
and
I
spoke
to
you
in
february
to
express
our
sincere
gratitude
for
that,
and
yet
here
we
are
again
at
the
last
minute
asking
for
arts
and
culture
to
again
have
more
support.
I'm
sensing,
a
trend
in
every
list
of
priorities
for
the
budget,
arts
and
culture
is
included
in
the
top,
but
it
is
such
a
tiny
fraction
of
the
actual
money
invested
by
the
budget
just
one
third
of
one
percent.
AB
AB
While
you
all
were
talking,
we
should
be
2.3
million
in
the
2022
budget
or
another
800
000
or
so
I
know,
staffing
shortages
hurt
across
city
departments,
but
the
office
of
excuse
me,
the
office
of
arts
and
culture
is
working
their
tail
off
to
meet
the
cultural
plan
goals
with
just
over
half
a
staff,
they're
2.25
fte
short.
So
when
many
other
departments
have
2022
budget
funding,
not
only
for
restoration
but
also
for
enhanced
services,
please
don't
leave
arts
and
culture
behind.
Thank
you.
B
AC
Thank
you
there
we
go
good
evening,
council
and
staff
members
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
I'm
kathleen
mccormick
and
I
currently
chair
the
boulder
arts
commission.
I'm
very
grateful
for
your
hard
work
on
the
city
budget
and
for
planning
to
restore
funding
to
pre-copa
levels
for
grants
for
arts
and
culture
organizations.
AC
Boulder's
arts
and
culture
sector
was
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
pandemic,
and
recovery
is
lagging
in.
Others
is
lagging
other
sectors,
including
the
nonprofit
sector
as
a
whole,
and
this
funding
increase
brings
hope
and
resources
with
a
budget
increase
of
8
percent.
However,
the
arts
and
culture
divisions,
budget
increase
is
small
relative
to
an
overall
budget
increase
of
32
percent.
AC
The
current
budget
proposal
is
1
million
short
sorry,
1
million
below
funding
recommended
by
the
community
cultural
plan
and
the
office
of
arts
and
culture
staff
is
short
over
two
positions.
The
public
art
program
has
no
ongoing
consistent
funding.
Current
funding
is
cobbled
together
from
different
sources
that
vary
widely
from
year
to
year.
Please
consider
spending
more
now
and
increasing
city
investments
over
the
next
several
years
to
establish
a
more
sustainable
and
supportive
environment
for
arts
and
culture.
AC
Some
of
these
investments
that
need
funding
right
now
are
one
the
creative
neighborhoods
program
to
enhance
social
infrastructure,
neighborhood,
vitality
and
city
programming
to
meet
equity
and
climate
change
goals.
Two
more
general
operating
support:
funding
for
arts
organizations,
three
consistent
public
art
funding
to
allow
for
maintenance
and
longer-range
planning
for
rental
assistant
funds
for
work
and
performance
spaces
to
help
address
acute
affordability,
challenges
and
five
support
for
artists
program,
which
provides
a
range
of
services
sponsorships
and
fellowships
perfect
for
professional
and
emerging
artists.
AC
Arts
and
culture
have
helped
to
heal,
strengthen
and
diversify
the
fabric
of
our
community,
which
has
faced
immense
challenges
since
2020.
creativity
is
an
engine
of
bulger's
economy
and
competitive
edge.
Please
invest
in
arts
and
culture
now
and
continue
to
increase
funding
from
the
general
fund,
dedicated
tax
funds
and
arpa
to
enhance
and
sustain
our
critical
social
infrastructure
and
creative
economy.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
as
you
determine
how
arts
and
culture
funding
will
be
increased.
Thank
you
again.
N
Thank
you,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
create
boulder
to
request
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
additional
funding
for
the
office
of
arts
and
culture.
This
represents
0.1
of
the
proposed
2022
budget
and
is,
in
addition
to
anticipated,
opera
funding
combined.
These
additional
investments
are
essential
for
the
city
to
implement
the
community
cultural
plan.
N
City
council
enthusiastically
adopted
the
cultural
plan
in
2015
following
robust
city-wide
input,
including
surveys
that
showed
strikingly
high
cultural
participation
among
boulder
residents.
Eighty
percent
of
respondents
reported
taking
advantage
of
boulder's
theaters
and
concert
venues.
74
pursue
art
as
a
hobby.
N
Incremental
spending
on
arts
and
culture
would
support
a
range
of
strategies
and
staffing
needs
identified
in
the
cultural
plan,
details
of
which
we
shared
with
you
in
our
email
last
friday.
We
also
shared
suggestions
for
funding
this
additional
500
000
and
achieving
stable
long-term
arts
funding
for
2022.
N
Every
dollar
invested
in
the
arts
strengthens
the
social
fabric
of
our
community
and
ripples
through
the
economy,
in
the
form
of
jobs
and
spending
at
local
retailers,
restaurants
and
hotels.
This
generates
local
taxes,
a
positive
financial
return
on
the
city's
investment
boulder
respectfully
request.
The
council
approve
this
proposed
500
000
adjustment
to
the
2022
budget.
B
F
I
had
one
question:
we
heard
that
the
fire
department
is
cutting
a
water
rod
or
rescue
team.
I
think
it
was
called
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
chief
caldorazo
might
speak
to
that
like
will
there
be
someone
available
to
go
in
for
water
rescues?
I
So
the
short
answer
rachel
is,
we
will
respond
to
water
rescues,
what's
being
essentially
cut
from
the
budget.
Is
the
overtime
allocation
that
we
use
to
train
our
subsurface
dive
technicians,
so
that
is
the
subsurface
response,
the
divers?
What
we've?
I
What
we've
gone
on
to
do
because
of
this
cut,
is
have
conversations
about
what
is
the
highest
water
rescue
related
risk
and
what
brian
threw
in
there,
I
think
is-
is
important
for
us
all
to
think
about
in
terms
of
levels
of
risk,
so
water
rescue
is
actually
a
bunch
of
different
types
of
risk.
So
there's
swift,
water,
there's
the
there's
the
creek
that's
different
kind
of
requires
a
different
kind
of
responder,
then
there's
subsurface,
where
it
would
be
in
a
deeper
pool
of
water,
such
as
the
res
or
some
other
big
body
of
water.
I
I
That
doesn't
mean
that
divers
won't
respond.
We've
also
used,
we
have
a
contract
with
boulder
emergency
squad,
but
they
have
traditionally
used
our
services
as
well.
In
other
words,
they
use
our
divers
and
they
supplement
our
divers.
If
we
cut
this,
then
it's
just
using
bes
the
volunteer
emergency
squad
and
their
divers
to
do
dives.
I
We
would
still
be
going.
We
go
to
all
hazards,
but
we
would
not
be
the
ones
in
this
case
actually
getting
in
the
water
with
dive
technicians.
That's
what
he
was
specifically
referring
to.
Swift
water
is
a
completely
different
animal
and
that's
one.
We've
been
trying
to
focus
more
squarely
on
for
the
long
term
having
conversations
around
okay.
I
I
F
I
Yeah
that
well
so
the
only
dive
program
in
the
county
will
be
the
boulder
emergency
squads.
That's
who
the
sheriff
uses,
and
traditionally
they
have
also
relied
on
us
to
to
help
them
with
with
regional
response.
I
But
I've
talked
with
a
lot
of
the
regional
responders.
We're
the
only
fully
staffed
24
7
dive
program
that
that
is
career,
that
is,
that
is
with
responders.
Bes
is
a
volunteer
emergency
squad
same
qualification,
same
everything
and
through
a
contract
they
do
that
already
for
the
sheriff.
They
would
do
the
same
for
us.
M
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
call
aqui
on
that.
How
many
swift
water
rescues?
Do
we
have
on
an
annual
basis
as
compared
to
subsurface
dive
type
rescues.
I
I
don't
have
the
exact
numbers
in
front
of
me
and
I
can
get
those
to
you.
I
can
tell
you
proportionately,
there
are
more
swift
water
related
rescues
than
there
are
subsurface,
and
you
know
I
one
of
the
things
that
you
do
when
you
look
at
risk
is
okay.
I
Well,
how,
in
in
terms
of
equity,
how
many
people
will
be
affected
by
this
particular
risk
in
the
community
and
then
we
basically
turn
them
into
different
levels:
no
low,
moderate
and
high,
and
it's
a
frequency
versus
consequence
kind
of
thing
where,
if
it
happens
a
lot,
even
though
it's
just
one
or
two
people?
Well,
that's
a
big
thing
for
the
whole
community.
If
it's
happening
infrequently,
but
it
have,
it
could
affect
a
lot
of
people.
That's
a
big
risk
as
well.
That's
something
we
should
be
planning
on
addressing
in
some
response
fashion.
I
Hence
why
we
put
together
what
we
call
a
standard
of
cover
and
next
march
or
april
somewhere
in
there.
We
hope
to
come
back
to
you
not
just
on
a
presentation
on
our
master
plan,
but
to
tell
you
how
we're
doing
in
terms
of
meeting
those
different
levels
of
risk.
Swift
water,
in
our
estimation,
is
a
higher
level
of
risk,
but
truthfully
we
have
not.
I
To
be
perfectly
honest,
so
obviously,
if
we
stand
down
the
team-
and
we
try
to
stand
it
up
again
in
the
future-
saying:
okay,
we've
addressed
with
water,
let's
move
on
to
the
other
water
rescue
related
risks
like
subsurface,
because
we
think
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
address
that
it
will
cost
us
a
lot
more
to
do
that.
So
so
some
of
the
arguments
made
by
my
own
team.
I
Suggest
that
hey
it's
just
an
incremental
cost.
Why
don't
you
just
keep
running
it,
however,
if
if
I
were
standing
up
a
water
rescue
program
today
from
scratch
and
addressing
boulder's
risk,
the
bigger
one
is
definitely
swift
water
and
then
to
a
lesser
degree,
subsurface
and
even
what
we
would
ice
rescue
and
those
two
kind
of
go
hand
in
hand.
Often
ice
rescue
can
often
turn
into
a
subsurface
issue
for
us.
I
So
those
are
the
big
three
when
we
talk
about
water
rescue,
but
I
would
say
that
if
we
were
to
put
numbers
to
it
proportionately,
swift
water
is
the
bigger
community
risk
compared
to
the
other
two,
the
other
two,
especially
subsurface.
I
If
we
want
to
use
events
like
triathlons
and
all
the
other
things
that
happened
in
boulder,
that's
a
very
those
are
event
driven
they're,
very,
very
specific
to
certain
folks,
and
we
have
to
be
careful
with
how
we
use
our
resources
to
address
those
things
if
they're,
not
being
you
know,
paid
for
at
large
or
by
those
users
of
that
service.
I
AC
E
Another
follow-up
follow
up
on
this,
so
chief,
I
appreciate
all
the
information
sounds
like
there
will
be
other
coverage
for
these
issues,
but
do
you
feel
comfortable
with
this
cut?
Like
do
you
feel
like?
We
still
are
meeting
the
safety
needs
of
the
community
or
with
this
budget
cut.
I
If,
if
I
had,
if
I
had
a
wonderful
allotment
of
money,
like
I
said
I
would,
I
would
probably
spend
that
money
more
on
the
swift
water
piece
of
things.
First,
before
I
got
to
the
dive
piece
of
the
program
in
truth,
we're
we're
moving
to
what
we
would
say
as
a
volunteer
service
for
dive,
the
dives
program.
I
That
means
that
we'll
have
to
wait
for
them
to
get
on
scene,
sometimes
it'll
be
fast,
sometimes
maybe
not
so
much,
but
but
swift
water
is
something
that
we'd
want
to
distribute
more
generally
because
of
all
the
creeks
and
all
the
opportunities
out
there.
We
probably
have
not
got
that
funded
as
well
as
we
should,
but
we
need
to
have
more
conversations
and
bring
those
forward.
So
I
think
what
I
would
need
to
know
is:
yes,
we
want
a
dive
program
and
then
we
would
fund
that.
I
But
then
honestly,
we
would
have
to
come
back
and
say
yes,
but
the
swift
water
piece
is
something
we
want
we're
going
to
make
a
case
for
going
forward
and
here's
the
numbers
and
here's
what
we
think
we
need
to
do
so.
So
I
think,
even
if
we
restored
funding
and
said
you,
we
really
want
to
keep
our
dive
program,
especially
since
we've
been
doing
it
so
long.
I
would
still
want
to
come
back
and
say.
The
bigger
risk,
though,
is
swift
water.
L
Yeah
this
this
question
is
actually
for
kara
or
or
mark.
Can
somebody
tell
me
about
the
line
item
or
or
with
chief
calderazzo?
What's
the
line
item
for
the
fire
department?
How
much
money
are
we
spending
on
the
fire
department
in
this
budget.
L
That
that
was
my
recollection,
but
I
didn't
want
to
be
presumptuous
about
22
million
on
a
percentage
basis.
L
L
I
mean
this
is
a
fraction
of
one
percent
of
the
budget,
so
my
question
is:
to
what
extent
can
a
department
head
as
chief
colorado
is
reallocate
money
within
that
23.4
million
dollars
to
cover
a
need
that
he
deems
to
be
critical
if
it's
not
being
specifically
funded.
U
From
a
pure
accounting
and
budgetary
perspective,
they
have
flexibility,
but
I
might
even
let
nuria
speak
to
that,
but
there
is
flexibility
to
move
dollars
around
and
I
think
what
chief
caldroso
spoke
to
is
that
this
is
an
overtime
cost
and-
and
I
know
that
they're
challenged
with
their
overtime
budget
across
all
the
overtime
budget
needs.
So
I
would
just
sort
of
share
that
and
offer
input
from
anybody
else.
L
H
So
I'll
chime
in
and
say
this
that
when
we're
doing
budgeting
and
allocating
dollars
right,
we
don't
have
infinite
dollars
as
we
move
forward
and
some
hard
decisions
have
to
be
made.
Certainly
we
don't
want
departments
coming
as
they
do
when
they
present
their
budget
request
to
us
in
the
summer
and
say
this
is
what
I
want
it
for
and
then
turn
around
and
use
it
for
other
things.
But
I
think
your
question
mark
is
slightly
different.
H
H
And
I
will
say
that
I
welcome
department
heads
to
think
through
that
some
certainly
move
and
think
this
is
a
better
during
the
middle
of
the
course
of
the
financial
year
say
this
is
a
better
spend
and
can
we
have
that,
and
so
we
certainly
have
conversations
about
it,
but
we
do
have
some
controls
because
we
don't
want
monies
allocated
for
x
purpose
to
be
spent
on.
Why
thing
right?
H
So
I
think
this
is
one
where
and
certainly
we've
had
long
conversations
with
the
chief
and
I
appreciate
what
a
difficult
position
he
is
in
tonight.
As
he's
answering
these
questions
about
it,
because,
on
the
one
hand
we
certainly
have
we
have
a
balancing
of
needs.
As
you
look
at
data-
and
this
is
something
that
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
fire
department
with
on
a
variety
of
issues.
H
But
as
you
look
at
data
on
overtime
or
on
just
programming
in
general,
what
is
the
best
highest
use
of
your
time
and
your
effort,
because
everything
has
consequences,
and
I
actually
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
the
chief
is
looking
at
his
programs
and
saying
I
perhaps
have
a
bigger
highest
use
and
or
a
bigger
problem
than
I
need
to
attend
to
that.
That
really
focuses
my
attention
there.
H
K
Nearby
thanks
sam,
so
just
out
of
curiosity,
because
I
didn't
realize
this
was
happening,
is
there
I
mean?
Is
this
too
late
for
us
to
fix
this
now
I
mean,
I
know
we're
kind
of
voting
on
this
or
moving
forward
with
this,
but
other
than
what's
in
the
budget.
Is
there
a
way
to
fix
this?
I
mean
to
me
this
is
kind
of
ludicrous.
K
I
mean
this
is
health
and
safety
of
our
community,
and
so
for
this
to
be
cut
I
mean
bes
is
great
and
I've
worked
with
them
before
with
being
in
a
county
fire
department.
But
again,
yes,
it
takes
them
time
to
get
there
and
not
having
that
service
as
a
city
is
especially
when
it's
kind
of
a
smaller
fund.
It's
not
this
huge
ask
and
it
sounds
like
we
have
some
pretty
critical
cases
every
year.
T
B
Great-
and
I
I
think
I'll
just
weigh
in
here
with
the
perspective,
I
consider
this
to
be
very
much
a
department
heads
kind
of
prioritization
decision.
You
know
it's
hard
for
me
to
second
guess
what
the
best
use
of
that
thirty
thousand
dollars
is.
I
would
I
would
lean
on
the
actual
department
had
to
make
that
decision,
because
you
could
take
that
thirty
thousand
and
you
could
put
it
towards
als.
You
could
put
it
towards
more
swift
water
rescue
or
you
know
whatever.
I
I
think
this
to
me
is
a
decision.
B
We
we've
heard
it
flagged
and
you
know
chief.
I
would
just
ask
you
if
we
proceed
with
things
as
they
are,
do
you
feel,
like
you've,
got
sufficient
budget
to
meet
your
mission
next
year
and
I'm
a
little
hesitant
to
micromanage.
So
I'd
like
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
if
we
let
this
go
forward,
will
you
have
the
budget
you
need
to
meet
your
mission.
I
It
seems
like
it's
not
a
lot,
but
as
kara
alluded,
we
we
blow
our
budget
in
overtime
every
year
for
contractual
obligations
for
leave
purposes,
for
long-term
injury
on
and
off
the
job,
and
we're
still
trying
to
work
with
finance
in
hr
to
find
that
sweet
spot
for
the
right
number
of
firefighters
to
keep
trucks
on
the
road
just
for
all
of
our
services
versus
just
paying
overtime,
which
of
course,
is
always
cheaper
but
hurts
your
workforce.
I
So
that's
why
and
and
thanks
cara
for
for
for
reminding
us
that
it's
it's
23
and
a
half,
because
I
remember
now
that
big
part
of
that
is
the
additional
three
firefighters
so
that
we
can
address
some
of
these
overtime
related
issues.
I
And
so
I'm
I
almost
you-
can
almost
count
on
us
going
over
on
our
overtime
budget,
partly
because
I
struggle
at
times
to
get
folks
in
seats
because
of
whatever
leave
or
other
contractual
obligations.
So
I
that's,
of
course,
the
highest
and
best
need
for
us
and
we're
beginning
to
really
really
address
that.
I
I
think
in
the
right
way
and
the
constructive
way
for
some
of
these
more
specialized
operations,
programs,
I'm
hesitant
to
give
numbers
and
say
this
or
that,
because
we
still
need
to
have
robust
conversations
internally
about
you
know
where
the
risk
is
where
we
need
to
spend
dollars
and
how
we
make
the
case
to
the
executive
budget
team
going
forward
so
that
it's
a
it's
a
reasonable
ask,
and
it's
not
one
that
that
is
a
lot
of
money
chasing
after
very,
very
small
risk,
which
I
don't
want
us
to
be
doing.
I
Having
said
all
of
that,
this,
this
is
a
diet
program.
That's
been
set
up
for
years,
it
does
serve
a
function
in
the
community
has
been
used
in
various
different
ways
it.
I
don't
believe
that
if
we
were
standing
up
a
water
rescue
program
from
scratch
today,
we
would
start
with
a
dive
rescue
program,
but
it
does
represent
a
lot
of
already
sunk
costs
and
a
lot
of
training
a
lot
of
dedicated
folks,
and
so
we
will
in
essence,
if
we
stand
it
down,
have
a
different
model.
I
I
just
want
us
to
understand:
there's
a
different
model
going
forward.
We
will
be
using
a
volunteer
emergency
squad,
but
it's
not
unlike
what
we
do
in
the
backdrop
for
hikers
who
are
stranded,
we
use
rocky
mountain
rescue
to
pull
people
off
the
mountain
there.
The
sheriff
uses
them
to
do
that
and
they
bring
them
to
us
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
trail,
and
then
we
transport
them.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
similar
model.
It's
just
a
different
one
and.
I
I
We
will
have
a
first
do
unit
on
the
scene
very
quickly
with
some
capabilities,
but
they
will
not
be
making
entry
in
the
water.
The
way
we
do
now,
even
the
first
unit
now
doesn't
make
entry
in
the
water
they
they.
If
they're,
not
a
dive
team,
they
will,
they
will
get
to
the
water.
They
will
give
us
the
size
up.
They
will
get
the
dive
team
out.
I
B
It
seems
to
me
like
that,
if
you
all,
as
a
team,
you
and
the
executive
team
made
a
decision
that
you
wanted
to
reallocate
a
tenth
of
a
percent
of
your
budget.
That
wouldn't
be
something
that
would
typically
rise
to
the
level
of
us
to
weigh
in
on
so
I'll.
Just
leave
it
at
that
and
turn.
I
see
bob
you've
got
your
hand
up
as
well.
V
Well,
two
things:
first,
I
want
to
agree
with
sam
that
you
know
we're
approving
a
comprehensive
400
million
dollar
plus
budget,
and
I
don't
want
to
micromanage
any
department,
whether
it's
the
fire
department
or
any
department.
This
is
this.
Is
this
budget
is
a
product
of
thousands
of
hours
of
work
by
the
budget
team
by
the
department
heads
and
you
all
negotiate
with
each
other
and
have
come
up
with
this
comprehensive
budget,
and
we
start
moving
things
around
here
or
there
is
a
zero
sum,
so
we
take
dollars
away
from.
V
You
know,
give
somebody
dollars.
We
have
two
dollars
away
from
somebody
else,
and
so
I
think
far
be
it
from
from
us
to
come
in
with
just
a
few
minutes
of
review
and
upset
all
of
the
work
that's
been
done
over
the
last.
You
know
six
or
seven
months
to
pull
this
budget
together.
V
V
They
can
come
back
with
an
adjustment
to
base
and
we
can
make
whatever
adjustments
that
the
city
manager
and
her
department
heads
recommend.
So
I
this
is.
While
we
approve
our
budget
once
a
year,
we
really
approve
our
budget
several
times
a
year,
because
we
are
constantly
making
adjustments.
So
I
I
don't
want
to
second-guess
nuria
and
her
team.
B
E
Yeah,
just
thanks
for
that
bob
and
and
sam
for
your
comments
about
micromanaging.
I
think
that
I
thought
that
was
very
well
said.
I
just
wanted
to
also
respond
to
the
folks
who
testified
about
arts
funding
and
who
sent
us
a
number
of
emails
over
the
last
week,
or
so.
I
really
appreciate
your
advocacy
as
a
strong
proponent
of
arts
and
arts
funding
myself.
I
appreciate
how
you're
always
out
there
advocating
for
arts
and
those
programs
and
those
fundings.
E
I
will
say
I
do
feel
this
is
a
restoration
budget
that
our
primary
purpose
this
year
is
to
bring
our
funding
back
and
our
services
back
as
close
as
to
what
they
were
pre-pandemic
as
possible,
and
so
there
have
been
some
tough
decisions
made
and,
as
we've
striven
to
driven
strove,
strove
to
do
that
as
much
as
possible
or
as
closely
as
possible,
and
I
do
really
appreciate
that
the
arts
budget
was
brought
back
to
its
pre-pandemic
level.
E
I
think
that
was
a
really
good
call
on
the
part
of
the
budgeters,
so
I
wouldn't
look
to
increase
it
past
that
level
today
in
this
budget,
but
I
do
really
look
forward
in
the
coming
years,
as
our
revenues
continue
to
return
and
increase
to
look
for
other
opportunities
for
additional
arts
funding,
whether
it
be
through
the
arpa
program
or
other.
You
know,
general
funds,
as
those
funding
streams
come
back
so
appreciate
it
again.
All
of
your
advocacy.
E
I
mean
I've
got
the
floor
at
the
moment,
go
for
it,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
we've
got
so
many
of
them
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
that
we
adopt
ordinances,
8505,
8506,
8507
and
8508
implementing
all
kinds
of
details
for
next
year's
budget.
E
Well,
as
I
said
last
time,
just
staff
finance
staff
in
particular,
but
all
the
departments,
all
the
department
heads
everyone
involved
in
an
enormous
amount
of
work
and
went
into
this-
is
very
thoughtfully,
done
very
carefully
done
and
we
are
restoring
so
many
services
that
we
lost
during
the
pandemic,
not
all
of
them,
but
many
of
them,
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
back
to
100
to
where
we
were
before
before
too
long,
but
extremely
well
done.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
Aaron
mark,
I
think
the
description
of
this
budget
as
a
restoration
budget
is
is
quite
apt.
I'm
very
pleased
that
we've
been
able
to
restore
as
much
as
we
have,
and
I
am
very
impressed
with
the
work
done
by
finance
staff
and
staff
generally
in
preparing
a
document
that
encompasses
462
million
dollars
of
spending.
So
I
think
it
is
well
considered
well
thought
out
and
I'm
happy
to
second,
the
motion.
B
Excellent-
and
I
will
jump
in
here
and
say
I
agree
with
both
aaron
and
mark
about
this.
It
is
a
restoration
budget
and
I
think
we
should
all
be
pleased
that
we
have
gotten
to
where
we
have,
with
restoring
kind
of
all
the
components
that
we
care
most
about
in
our
budget.
I
would
also
say
that
I
agree
that
we
should
look
forward
to
using
the
adjustments
I
expect
this
coming
year.
B
I
won't
be
part
of
making
those
adjustments,
but
it
will
be
an
opportunity
more
than
most
years,
I
think,
to
track
how
we're
doing
and
watch
closely
where
we
could
plus
up
things
if
we
have
extra
or
where
we'll
have
to
cut
as
we
go
forward.
I
will
also
point
out
that
you
know
a
big
chunk
of
this
budget.
We
hear
these
large
numbers.
B
A
big
chunk
of
those
numbers
in
our
budget
are
utilities,
so
water,
wastewater
and
storm
water
are
a
huge
component
of
the
funding
we
have
and
then
there's
also
a
bunch
of
dedicated
funding
that
goes
to
things
like
transportation,
open
space
and
parks,
which
we
as
council
don't
have
much
discretion
over.
So
if
you
look
at
the
part
that
we
have
discussion
over
more
in
the
ballpark
of
140
150
million
dollars,
you
will
see
within
that.
If
we
think
about
the
arts
as
a
fraction
of
that,
it
is
a
better
percentage.
B
I
think
we
always
strive
to
go
for
one
percent
or
a
little
more
for
the
arts
and
we're
approaching
that,
even
if
we're
not
quite
there
yet-
and
I
know
that
we're
not
at
the
full
level
of
our
cultural
plan-
vision-
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
get
there
and
hopefully
we'll
come
in
with
more
budget
more
revenue
this
year
because
of
a
recovering
economy
and
can
look
at
what
to
do
with
that
extra
money.
B
M
Thanks
sam,
I
wanted
to
agree
with
the
whole
approach
of
not
wanting
to
micromanage
and
how
much
time
staff
has
actually
put
into
developing
this
budget.
I
wanted
to
comment
also
on
the
arts
and
dedicating
more
funding
to
that.
M
I
would,
of
course
I
won't
be
here
to
do
that,
but
as
you
move
forward,
I
would
ask
that
council,
the
remaining
council
members
consider
the
fact
that,
when
the
2015
culture
plant
cultural
plan
was
developed,
we
did
not
have
yet
in
place,
or
were
we
even
talking
about
very
loudly
anyway
about
a
racial
equity
plan
that
has
become
a
big
part
of
what
we
are
trying
to
weave
into
every
decision
that
we
make
throughout
the
city
and
the
arts
included,
so
that
if
there
is
a
big
increase
in
the
arts
budget,
I
think
that,
along
with
that,
there
should
be
some
measure
of
how
it's
going
to
be
spent
in
an
equitable
manner.
M
I
don't
think
that's
there
yet,
and
I
hope
that
when
the
new
plan
is
developed,
that
that
is
part
of
the
conversation,
how
that
is
going
to
get
woven
into
how
it
gets
spent
and
to
make
sure
that
those
dollars
are
spent
in,
like
those
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
overtime,
is
the
customer's
use.
So
that's
what
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
that
and
I
think
it's
a
great
budget.
M
It
is
a
recovery
budget
and
I
hope
that
we
continue
to
increase
the
stability
of
our
city
in
this
manner.
Thank
you.
B
B
V
E
D
Yes,
sir,
that
would
be
item
5d
on
our
agenda
tonight.
That
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8512
grant
an
authority
to
the
approving
authority
under
title
ix,
land
use
code,
brc
1981,
to
approve
a
development
that
exceeds
the
minimum
open
space
per
dwelling
unit
standards
for
a
property
in
the
business
community.
One
district
bc,
one
located
at
3320
28th
street
at
diagonal,
plaza
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
documents
that
will
secure,
affordable
housing
on
the
property
and
setting
forth
related
details.
AD
AD
So
what's
before,
you
is
this
ordinance
change
that
allows
the
discussion
of
this
concept
to
continue
through
the
site
review
process
and
as
a
result,
should
you
approve
this
ordinance
tonight.
This
project
would
still
be
subject
to
significant
community
conversation
through
that
site
review
process.
AD
Ultimately,
planning
board
and
city
council
will
have
another
opportunity
to
review
the
project
at
that
time.
So,
with
that
aside,
this
ordinance
was
unanimously
recommended
for
your
approval
by
the
planning
board,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
over
to
elaine
mclaughlin
senior
planner.
To
present
this
ordinance.
AE
Great
thanks
appreciate
that
jacob
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members,
I'm
just
going
to
boot
up
the
screen
here
so
bear
with
me.
While
I
get
that
going
so
just
as
a
road
map
of
where
we're
headed
this
evening,
I
think
it's
probably
instructive
to
understand
that
it's
essentially
a
staff
presentation
this
evening
and
you
can
ask
questions
of
staff
or
the
applicant
team
and
then
we'll
have
public
comment
in
the
staff
presentation.
AE
We
are
going
to
recap
the
process
of
where
this
has
been
and
then
a
little
bit
about
the
planning
and
build
context
that
we
talked
about
in
july
and
a
light
touch
on
the
summary,
the
concept
plan,
because
we
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
discussing
that
at
concept
plan
review
and
then
the
intended
need
for
ordinance
8512
along
with
policy
direction
that
supports
that
ordinance
and
so
in
terms
of
the
process.
To
date.
AE
As
you
may
recall,
this
ordinance
is
an
outgrowth
of
concept,
plan
review
and
input,
as
jacob
mentioned,
both
by
planning
board
and
by
city
council's
review
of
the
concept
plan,
and
at
that
time
council
gave
input
and,
as
jacob
noted
provided
guidance
on
an
ordinance
as
the
most
effective
mechanism
to
support
redevelopment
with
residential
and
then
earlier
this
month.
It's
important
to
note
that
council
approved
the
first
reading
of
this
ordinance.
That
was
on
consent
on
october
5th,
and
then
that
was
followed
by
planning
board
on
october.
AE
7Th,
who
voted
unanimously
to
recommend
council
approve
the
ordinance,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
planning
board
also
recommended
that
council
consider
a
work
plan
item
for
next
year
for
an
area
plan
on
the
rest
of
diagonal
plaza
to
keep
this
momentum
going
and
if
the
ordinance
is
approved
this
evening,
subsequent
site
news
review,
application
will
be
considered
by
planning
board
and
then
of
course,
city
council
will
have
a
call-up
opportunity.
AE
AE
As
a
neighborhood
center,
as
you
can
see
there
with
a
mix
of
uses
and
range
of
services,
and
that
the
comp
plan
considers
centers
as
places
for
having
potential
for
infill
and
redevelopment
specifically,
so
it's
also
important
to
note,
as
was
discussed,
that
the
site,
surrounded
by
multi-use
paths
and
bike
lanes
and
routes
connected
to
the
greater
boulder
area,
and
we
think
that
this
map
is
very
instructive
because
it
illustrates
the
300
miles
of
bikeways
bike
lanes,
routes
and
multi-use
paths
throughout
the
greater
boulder
area.
AE
And
then
the
site's
pedestrian
context
is
further
identified
as
being
in
an
area
with
better
access
to
goods
and
services
within
walking
distance
through
the
transportation
master
plan,
a
rather
tmp's
neighborhood
access
tool.
In
the
concept
plan
discussion,
we
also
talked
about
the
site
context
that
includes
bus
and
bike
support
amenities.
AE
There's
an
rtd
super
stop
right
outside
the
door,
bike,
storage,
lockers,
public
bike,
storage,
lockers,
as
well
as
bike
and
car
share
facilities,
and
we
also
discussed
the
zoning
context
and
the
fact
that
the
business
community
one
bc
one
site.
Zoning
has
a
relatively
suburban
density
and
it
has
a
high
open
space
per
dwelling
unit
requirement
of
1200
square
feet,
and
this
is
despite
the
fact
that
it's
in
this
transit-rich
context,
that's
evolved
over
time,
where
the
number
of
units
on
the
site
would
necessitate
almost
two-thirds
of
this
site
to
be
open
space.
AE
And
so,
as
we
talked
about
in
the
concept
plan,
it
was
noted
that
this
would
essentially
be
an
inefficient
use
of
this
infill
catalyst
site
and
then
contextually.
It's
important
to
note
the
north
28th
street
transportation
network
plan
that
we
talked
about
that
illustrates,
connections
to
and
through
the
site
and
and
that
the
plans
will
address
this
in
the
site
review
process.
AE
The
applicants
propose
some
consistent
linkages
with
this
plan,
and
then
it's
also
important
to
recollect
that
the
site
consists
of
large
surface
parking
lots,
we're
all
familiar
with
there's
a
walgreens
on
the
north
end
and
a
vacant
sports
authority
on
the
south
end,
and
then
we
know
the
potential
to
connect
redevelopment
to
the
boulder
housing
partner.
AE
Diagonal
court
apartments-
that's
to
the
south,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
that
site
is
fully
developed
with
30
apartments
and
therefore
is
not
part
of
ordinance
8512.
That's
under
consideration,
so,
as
was
noted,
the
sites
owned
separately
from
other
multiple
property
owners
for
the
retail
buildings
that
comprise
diagonal,
plaza
shopping
center
and
that
was
first
developed
in
the
1960s
and
then.
AE
10
years
ago
now,
city
council
requested
a
study
by
the
urban
land
institute,
a
tab,
a
technical
advisory
panel
to
come
up
with
some
recommendations
on
an
approach,
and
the
recommended
approach
in
this
case
by
tab
was
an
incremental
approach
to
redevelopment
to
partner
with
boulder
housing
partners,
as
is
proposed
by
the
applicant
team.
AE
So
just
a
brief
overview
of
the
plan
that
council
discussed
in
july,
the
applicants
planning
new
connections
through
the
site.
As
we
noted
new
community
park,
a
variety
of
residential
units
totaling,
approximately
284
units
that'll
include
a
range
of
sizes
from
essentially
efficiency
living
units
about
475
square
feet
through
three
bedroom
units
along
with
town,
home
style
units
and
permanently
affordable
units.
In
the
plan
there's
ground
floor,
commercial
uses,
wrapped
parking
and
then
upper
decks
for
open
space
so
specific
to
the
ordinance
we're
discussing
this
evening,
85-12.
AE
As
noted
in
your
packet,
the
city
has
considered
similar
ordinances
from
time
to
time
to
modify
specific
city
standards
when
there's
a
circumstance
that
necessitates
an
exception
or
to
allow
an
exception
where
public
benefit
would
arise
and
which
would
address
specific
policies
in
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan
and,
as
was
discussed
by
council,
there
is
interest
and
support
for
revitalization
of
the
site
in
this
concept
plan.
The
planning
board
and
city
council
both
view
this.
AE
With
that
suburban
density
standard
that
exists
under
the
bc1.
So,
regarding
the
intent
of
the
ordinance,
it's
important
to
emphasize
that
it's
specifically
applicable
only
to
the
proposed
project
and
site,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
ordinance
is
not
a
comprehensive
rezoning.
Rather
it's
specific
to
the
proposed
redevelopment
of
this
site
only
such
that
any
site
review
plans
that
come
before
the
review
boards
must
conform
to
the
stipulations
or
the
ordinance
would
expire.
AE
The
ordinance
modifies
a
singular
aspect
of
the
code,
the
open
space
standards
of
bc1
zoning
for
the
site
only
and
the
ordinance
would
permit
a
minimum
of
15
open
space
for
the
site.
Only
and
the
applicant
will
be
required
to
demonstrate
project
consistency
as
well
with
the
site
review
criteria
related
to
open
space
such
that
open
space
needs
of
the
residents
and
visitors
to
the
site
will
be
met,
and
then
the
ordinance
is
based
on
the
intent.
AE
That's
illustrated
in
the
concept
plan,
so
moving
forward,
there's
an
indication
of
what
to
expect
on
the
site
in
sight
and
use
review,
and
then
the
ordinance
ensures
that
inclusionary
housing
requirements
will
be
met
through
a
covenant
prior
to
any
residential
building
permits.
Middle,
affordable
housing
requirement
will
be
based
on
25
percent
of
the
entire
development
of
all
residential
units
approved
in
the
site
review
regardless
of
ownership
and
the
affordable
units
will
be
provided
within
the
project.
AE
And
then
the
ordinance
would
fulfill
core
values
of
the
bbcp
specific
to
the
evolving
sustainable
urban
form.
That
is
an
infill
redevelopment
in
partnership
with
boulder
housing
partners
and
would
allow
for
a
greater
number
of
residential
units
than
could
be
built
under
bc1
zoning,
both
market
rate
and
affordable
and
then
similarly
revitalizing
the
underutilized
sites
in
keeping
with
policy
2.03
that
further
articulates
the
city's
preference
for
infill
and
redevelopment
of
sites
rather
than
expanding
the
service
area
of
our
compact
city.
AE
That
specifically
calls
out
diagonal
plaza
as
both
a
center
where
redevelopment
is
anticipated
and,
as
council
is
noted,
it's
a
critical
opportunity
site
for
redevelopment
where
the
city
would
support
revitalization
efforts
that
are
unique
to
that
specific
place,
and
so
with
that
concludes
staff's
presentation
and
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
along
with
the
applicant
team.
Who,
I
understand,
are
on
the
call.
B
Thank
you,
elaine.
That
was
an
excellent
presentation.
Council
questions.
I
have
one
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
start
with.
I
flagged
this
to
staff
this
afternoon.
B
The
first
question
I've
got
is
the
suggested
motion
language
says:
to
approve
a
development
that
exceeds
the
minimum
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standards.
I
guess
my
question
is:
it
seems
to
me
that
using
fails
to
meet
the
minimum
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standard
would
be
more
appropriate,
but
I
was
curious
to
hear
if
there's
a
reason
that
exceeds
is
a
more
proper
legal
word.
AE
You
know
we
checked
in
with
city
attorney's
office
and,
and
we
concur,
it
could
be
changed.
One
recommendation
might
be
to
instead
say
does
not
meet,
maybe
a
little
less
intense
than
fails
to
meet.
I
think
the
point
is
it's
intended
to
create
a
more
urban
context
and
the
minimum
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standards,
as
we've
noted,
is
a
relatively
suburban
type
of
configuration.
I
think
what
we're
after
here
is
a
more
urban
configuration.
B
Thanks,
that's
perfect,
so
it
appears
in
the
title
and
the
motion
language
so
you'd
be
comfortable
with
does
not
meet
rather
than
exceeds.
Sounds
like
okay,.
AE
B
Should
work
perfect
and
so
we'll
try
and
note
that
in
the
motion
and
then
the
the
second
question
kind
of
gets
it
exactly
what
you
just
said:
elaine
this
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
has
been
a
thorn
in
our
side
for
a
while.
How
would
we
address
that
and
get
that
changed
and
out
of
the
code?
I
know
it's
not
something
we'll
do
with
this
council,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question:
how
could
a
future
council
fix
this
suburban
standard,
which
doesn't
seem
to
apply
very
often.
AD
Thank
you,
sam
I'll.
Take
that
one
so
there's
nothing
on
the
books
right
now
to
study
this
you're
correct.
This
is
an
intensity
measure
and
is
not
captured
in
the
use
tables,
work
or
any
of
the
currently
planned
work.
But
I
think
that
we
should
do
this.
Staff
can
simply
identify
this
as
a
potential
work
item
for
the
future
future
council
to
consider
and
we
can
flag
it
and
bring
it
up
for
them
to
look
at
in
the
context
of
our
other
work.
B
All
right,
that's
excellent.
I
I
will
just
make
the
point
here
to
those
who
are
continuing
that
this
has
been
something
that
has
been
needed
fixed
for
a
long
time,
and
so,
if
there's
room
in
the
next
work
plan,
I
think
this
would
be
a
good
one
and
it
might
be
actually
quick
but
I'll.
Let
you
guys
and
staff
work
that
out
and
then
I've
got
rachel
and
aaron
rachel.
F
Thanks
sam
and
I
support
your
last
point
and
that's
looking
at
that
as
someone
who's
continuing
on.
So
thank
you
for
flagging
that
I
just
wanted
to
understand.
There
was
a
one
of
the
last
slides
talked
about
all
affordable
housing
would
be
built
on
site,
but
then
it
also
mentioned
cash
and
lieu,
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
why
we
were
talking
about
both
like
if
affordable
housing
will
all
be
on
site.
Where
would
cash
and
lube
come
into
play?.
AE
Yeah,
you
bring
up
a
good
point
and
I
think
it's
essentially
a
default.
In
other
words,
if
there
is
any.
AE
J
Good
evening
again,
council
kirk,
fernando
director
of
housing,
human
services,
so
rachel
it's
a
bit
of
a
technical
question
as
well.
So
technically
it
can
be
two
different
sites,
so
they
could.
They
can
sort
of
donate
the
land
of
that
site.
The
land
will
be
a
value
of
x
and
the
casterly
would
be
a
value
of
y
and
they
would
have
to
pay
the
additional
amounts
to
meet
the
the
total
cash
flow
amounts.
J
So
simply
by
dedicating
the
land,
which
is
an
option
one
of
the
four
options
within
our
ih
ordinance.
They
would
still
be
required
to
pay
the
require
the
additional
cash
and
loot
to
get
there.
So
that's
that's
what
bhp
would
use
those
resources
to
help
cover
the
gap
of
constructing
that
development.
F
J
Yeah
well,
the
intent
in
a
broader
sense
is
that
that
affordable
housing
is
built
on
the
site.
So
that's
that's,
probably
the
the
first
component
of
that.
Sometimes
projects
come
to
you
with
the
the
promise
of
certain
outcomes
of
affordable
housing,
and
this
approach
creates
a
scenario
where
that
actually
will
happen
through
this
ordinance.
J
F
Okay,
so
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
I
guess
that
it
just
makes
me
concerned
that
maybe
we're
saying
we're
going
to
have
it
on
site,
but
we're
putting
a
default
in
in
case.
That
doesn't
happen
when
I
think,
if
we
all
think
we're
saying
it's
going
to
be
on
site
that
we
would
like
that
to
be
on
site
rather
than
to
defer
to
cash
and
lieu
at
a
different
site.
As
you
know,
I
saw
some
council
members
going
like
this
when
you
just
said
like.
F
AF
This
is
bill
holike
with
coburn,
and
I
can
just
hopefully
I
can
make
this
simple
notice.
The
language
in
the
ordinance
says
that
we
need
to
be
in
general,
conformance
with
the
concept
plan
that
we
submitted
and
the
intent
is
to
do
so.
AF
There
are
technical
restrictions
for
how
that
that
affordable
housing
can
be
built
on
that
piece
of
property
in
that
location,
and
so,
as
kurt
was
describing,
there
may
be
a
mechanism
that
actually
creates
a
landing
dedication
to
bhp,
so
they
get
that
piece
of
land
and
then
they
build
the
housing
on
it.
So
no
one's
contemplating
building
the
housing
in
a
different
location,
just
simply
trying
to
deal
with
the
technical
aspect
of
how
compliance
with
our
affordable
housing
requirements
work.
AG
A
Y
E
I
guess
I
just
have
a
couple
colloquies
the
to
what
rachel
is
just
talking
about.
I
think
hella's
point
is
that
there
is
that
sentence
in
the
ordinance
that
says
that
25
of
all
new
dwelling
units
on
the
site
will
be
permanently
affordable.
So
I
guess
the
the
mechanisms
might
be
tinkered
with
a
little
bit,
but
we
are
guaranteed
25
on-site
affordable
if
they
want
to
take
advantage
of
the
reduced
open
space
requirements.
How's
that
fair,
that's
correct!
E
Okay,
great
thanks
for
clarifying
that
and
then
just
I
also
just
wanted
to
plus
one
sam's
suggestion
about
the
open
space
tweaks,
the
requirements
for
that
so
jacob.
If
you
could
put
a
bookmark
in
that
I'd,
love
to
discuss
that
with
the
new
council
thanks,
that's
all
I
got.
P
M
AD
Thank
you
for
that
question
mary.
My
understanding
is
that
was
never
part
of
that.
This
is
an
intensity
standard
and,
as
a
result,
is
is
not
a
part
of
that
study,
so
this
would
need
to
be
flagged
as
a
separate
work
item.
B
M
So
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
sam
and
then
I
guess
the
other
question
I
have
is
as
part
of
this
motion
could
council
include
a
an
amendment
to
the
motion
that
would
say
that
that
would
require
a
an
area
plan
to
be
conducted
in
parallel,
or
is
that
better
left
to
the
new
council
as
a
consideration
for
their
work
plan?.
AD
I
I
can't
speak
to
the
the
powers
of
counsel.
I
do
know
that
I
would
defer
first
of
all,
I
think,
to
the
city
attorney's
office
in
terms
of
your
ability
to
bind
a
future
council.
So
that's
one
item.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
that
there's
an
issue
I
think
of
timing
in
terms
of
concurrence,
because
standing
up
an
area
plan
requires
significant
resource
in
terms
of
staff,
time
number
of
staff,
public
engagement,
as
well
as
making
sure
that
we
have
planned
appropriately
to
conduct
that
this
project.
AD
So
I
think
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
conduct
that
area
planning
process
at
the
same
time
that
this
project
would
hope
to
move
forward.
But
that
is
something
that
again,
we
could
flag
for
consideration
along
with
our
future
work
plan,
and
the
council
would
look
at
that.
I
think
again,
in
the
whole
slate
of
the
work
that
pnds
is
proposing.
AD
AA
AD
Wants
to
speak
to
to
that
in
any
more
depth.
M
L
My
question
is:
are
there
a
set
of
standards
that
we
use
to
determine
what
projects
are
eligible
for
this
kind
of
special
treatment
by
ordinance?
Or
is
it
simply
you
know?
If
do
we
like
the
project,
I'm
always
a
little
leery
of
just
simply
exercising
discretion,
picking,
winners
and
losers
in
that
fashion?
I'm
wondering:
is
there
any
organizing
principle
behind
which
we
make
a
determination
in
terms
of
size
of
the
project
or
other
qualities
that
determine
whether
we're
going
to
use
this
technique
to
make
a
project
viable.
AH
That's
a
great
question
mark,
typically,
the
only
time
we've
really
exercised
a
legislative
option
in
kind
of
the
development
review
arena
is
to
support
a
compelling
community
benefit.
Most
often
times
it's
been
the
provision
of
permanently
affordable
housing
being
built
on
site.
Okay,.
A
L
B
And
mark,
if
I
could
call
a
glee,
this
gets
back
to
that
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standard,
because
that
creates
all
kinds
of
perverse
incentives
to
make
bigger
units.
If
you
need
less
open
space,
if
you
build
bigger
units,
so
I
I'd
say:
there's
also
an
element
of
the
community
benefit
of
not
using
this
inappropriate
standard
on
the
site.
So
I
I
just
offer
that,
as
that.
L
No,
I
I
just
want
to
I
I'm
just
asking
the
question
as
a
matter
of
general
principle:
I'm
not
resistant
to
using
it
in
this
instance,
but
I
would
be
a
little
concerned
if
we're
using
it
as
a
series
of
one-offs
each
picked
by
us,
because
we
happen
to
like
this
particular
project.
L
L
I
have
no
problem
with
doing
it
here
and
I
believe
the
staff
memo
listed
a
number
of
other
occasions
when
we
have
done
it,
but
I'm
I'm
just
curious
as
to
whether
it's
kind
of
a
haphazard
process
or
whether
we're
doing
it
in
on
the
basis
of
specific
criteria.
AE
And
I'll
jump
in
and
just
add
that
those
policies
that
we
described
in
the
memo-
and
then
this
evening
in
the
presentation,
are
specific
to
a
circumstance
like
this
and,
in
particular
the
policy
that
cites
the
desire
for
the
city
to
revitalize
the
diagonal,
plaza
and
redevelop
the
diagonal
plasma.
So
the
perception
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity,
it's
a
catalyst
site
for
revitalizing
diagonal
plasma,
I
think,
was
among
the
many
considerations
that
we
discussed
a
concept
plan
along
with
the
ability
to
do
the
affordable
housing
as
part
of
the
project.
A
B
All
right
great
seeing
none,
we
will
move
to
the
public
hearing.
We
have
three
members
signed
up
and
then
one
who
has
been
added.
The
three
who
are
signed
up
are
lynn,
siegel,
virginia
zukowski
and
chet
czelszawski
and
I
believe
I'll
turn
to
alicia.
I
believe
alicia
we
have
another
person
signed
up.
Who
is
going
to
full
time.
Is
that
correct.
B
B
Okay
super
so
to
organize
this.
We
have
four
people
speaking,
which
means
that
there
will
be
three
minutes
per
speaker.
B
Our
two
speakers
will
be
lynn,
siegel
with
three
minutes
and
then
evan
freyrick
pooling
time
with
virginia
and
chet,
which
will
give
five
minutes
for
eric.
So
we'll
start
with
lynn
with
three
minutes
and
then
move
to
eric
with
five
minutes.
So
to
kick
us
off
lynn.
This
is
about
the
diagonal
plaza
and
you
have
three
minutes.
You.
P
B
AI
All
of
you
should
have
received
my
email,
which
discusses
the
options
to
have
an
increased
amount
of
affordable
housing
at
diagno
plaza.
I
believe
the
project
should
have
at
least
40
percent,
affordable
housing,
and
that
would
result
in
a
additional
43,
affordable
units.
AI
It
went
from
option
1
to
35
option,
2
259
and
at
this
point
rough
to
289.
Those
are
approximate
numbers.
Two
other
local
citizens
have
joined
me
so
that
my
speaking
time
could
have
been
increased.
One
of
them
is
ginger
zukowski,
who
previously
spoke
to
you.
She
lives
in
the
mobile
home
park
at
the
corner
of
30th
and
belmont,
a
retired
teacher.
AI
AI
AI
AI
If
this
development
goes
forward,
the
other
plaza
properties
will
also
be
greatly
enhanced,
because
it
raises
an
expectation
that
they
may
receive
expanded
development
rights
for
residential
development,
something
they
don't
have
now
and
only
be
required
to
do.
The
legal
minimum
in
boulder
owners
have
carried
properties
at
diagonal
plazas
for
many
many
years
they
paid
taxes
based
upon
the
commercial
real
estate
value.
AI
AI
Now
they
expect
to
pay
somewhere
around
33
000
per
unit
in
land
costs.
That's
a
savings
to
them
of
a
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
dollars
per
unit,
that
savings
of
millions
of
dollars
could
go
towards
providing
additional,
affordable
housing
even
at
40,
affordable
housing
units,
their
land
cost
is
still
only
going
to
be
around
41
000
per
unit.
AI
B
As
you
can
see,
miss
mr
friedrich,
your
time
is
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
appreciate
the
email
you
sent
us
and
your
testimony
tonight.
If
you'd
like
to
send
us
any
more,
you
can
send
it
to
council
bouldercolorado.gov
thanks
again
for
your
input
and
with
that
we
will
move
to
the
final
speaker,
lynn,
siegel.
When
you
have
three.
P
P
Keep
going,
but
you
aren't
seeing
what
I'm
seeing
I'm
just
seeing
my
name
in
a
black
window
seriously.
Eric
eric
will
confirm
that
try
rachel
confirm
it.
P
Boulder
has
eight
percent
affordable
housing.
That's
what
I
got
from
all
kinds
of
affordable
housing
from
the
staff
this
week,
eight
percent-
okay,
that's
nothing!
You
know,
and
that
shows
you
where
25
and
I
mean
we
used
to
have
20.
We
had
20
when
michael
bosma
did
311.
P
and
then
he
went
ahead
and
did
fruit
house
as
as
his
affordable
component
44
units.
In
fact
he
went
above
and
beyond
he
offered
106
units.
He
promised
that
what
happened
nothing
he
backed
out
of
it.
Now
they
are
doing
cash
in
lieu.
P
This
is
unacceptable,
unbelievable
and
unacceptable
and
25,
which
we
rose
it
from
20
to
25
is
also
completely
unacceptable.
P
But
what
we
need
is
a
comprehensive
integrative
analysis
of
what
it
costs
to
operate,
one
human
being
in
this
town
and
how
many
of
those
we
can
afford
to
build
structures
for,
because,
as
it
is,
it's
it's
unplanned.
This
is
really
poor
urban
planning.
It's
just
build
and
build
and
make
deals
along
the
way
and
what
happens
is
like
with
alpine
balsam,
the
same
thing
we
bought
it
for
40
million.
Now
we've
put
a
hundred
million
into
it
to
get
the
pavilion
and
and
tear
down
everything
and
there's
more
to
go.
P
P
P
B
L
Actually,
I
would
like
to
throw
this
one
back
to
bill
holike.
How
did
it
transpire
that
we
ended
up
with
the
minimum
of
25,
affordable
housing?
Mr
free
ridge's
analysis
seems
to
imply
let's,
let's
move
off
of
40,
which
is
very
high-
that
there
might
have
been
some
room
to
go
a
little
bit
higher.
AF
I'm
sure-
and
we
have
laura
scheinbaum
from
bhp
and
jarvie
worchester
from
tcr,
so
I'll
give
you
a
little
bit
and
then
those
two
as
the
developers
and
owners
can
probably
fill
in
a
bit
more,
but
I
would
just
remind
us
all
that
this
property
is
set
fallow
for
decades
and
it
has
not
been
financially
viable
up
until
this
point,
which
is
why
nothing's
happened
there.
This
ordinance
and
this
density
allowance
is
really
the
absolute
minimum.
AF
Clearly
that's
needed
in
order
to
make
this
happen,
and
remember
also
that
there
are
very
strict
private
sector
restrictions
in
the
pud
in
terms
of
what
can
be
built
and
what
can
be
approved
right
now.
You
cannot
do
any
residential
whatsoever
on
the
property
there's
cross
easements
for
access
and
utilities
and
everything
else.
So,
while
a
back
of
the
napkin
analysis
might
look
like
there's
a
lot
of
extra
in
any
project
here,
there's
not
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
laura
and
jarvie
to
maybe
mention
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
AJ
Yeah
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
is
jarvie
wilson,
with
tremolo
core
residential
and
laura's
who's.
J
AJ
Partner
on
this
project,
elaine
mentioned
previously,
we
have
a
partnership
agreement
to
work
together
for
the
affordable
housing
and
the
market
rate
housing.
While
I
appreciate
the
the
presentation
and
and
the
email
from
from
the
gentleman
who
spoke
earlier,
the
reality
of
the
math
on
that
is
it's
just
not
it's.
Just
not
accurate,
as
bill
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
variables.
I
have
a
person
have
confidentiality
requirements
that
recruit
me
to
get
into
too
much
detail,
but
I
can
tell
this
council
based
on
what
what
bill
said.
AJ
The
dynamics
of
the
site
obtaining
this
site
and
be
able
to
work
with
the
surrounding
owners
require
this.
This
density
to
really
make
the
video
you
know
function
and
be
something
that
we
can
move
forward.
So
that's
that's
how
it
was
contemplated
when
we
did
go
under
contract
with
the
land
and
it's
been
kind
of
our
our
approach
to
underwriting
and
evaluating
the
feasibility
of
what
we'll
get.
AJ
Like
I
said,
I'm
not
liberty
to
speak
to
the
details
of
my
purchase
and
sale
agreement.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
numbers
that
we're
presenting
are
wrong.
L
Well,
I
mean
that
doesn't
give
us
a
lot
of
room
to
analyze,
because
if,
if
true,
I
would
think
that
would
be
a
pretty
attractive
price.
If
it's
not
true,
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
order
of
magnitude
of
error
is,
can
you
speak
to
any
of
that.
AJ
I
I
just
I
don't,
I
think
the
reason
I'm
a
little
bit
caught
off
guard
is,
I
didn't
know,
and
it's
I'm
surprising-
to
get
a
question
on
the
cost
of
land
as
it
relates
to
how
the
city
processes
or
doesn't
process
a
requested
ordinance.
I
think
elaine
did
a
good
job
of
explaining
the
reasons
this
makes
sense.
Essentially
this
takes
a
property
that
the
city
is
identified
as
a
catalyst
from
you
know.
AJ
It's
existing
zoning
at
sort
of
roughly
20
to
25,
affordable
units
and
and
this
and
this
an
ordinance
would
create
close
to
60
65,
affordable
housing,
so
it
is
creating
the
community
benefit.
That
is
cheap.
That's
requested.
I
will
tell
you
the
number.
There
is
an
order
of
magnitude
higher
than
the
forty
thousand
dollars
per
unit
yeah,
that's
kind
of
kind
of
the
extent
of
where
I
can
discuss.
L
As
it
is
clearly
a
state
secret,
not
much
more,
I
can
ask
you.
Thank
you.
AK
Good
evening,
mayor
weaver
and
council
members,
I'm
laura
steinbaum,
I'm
director
of
real
estate
development
for
boulder
housing
partners
yeah.
You
know
we
are
super
excited
to
be
part
of
this.
AK
This
opportunity
in
terms
of
the
math
you
know
I
I
again
can't
speak
to
that
as
darby
had
suggested,
but
in
terms
of
the
value
coming
to
bhp
and
the
community
that
we
will
be
able
to
create
in
a
campus
of
affordable
housing
that
we'd
be
able
to
create
with
the
adjacency
of
the
additional
units
and
a
park
and
the
pedestrian
access
and
the
vehicular
access
you
know,
25,
perhaps
is
is
the
minimum,
as
required
by
code,
but
it's
it's
getting
this
sort
of
perfectly
sized
and
efficient
space
for
bhp
to
own
and
manage
within
an
existing
community.
AK
So
again,
I
think
that
that,
for
us
is
there's
tremendous
value
in
there.
Just
for
you
know
us
as
an
organization
and
the
community
and
at
large,
so.
G
Yeah,
I
can't
say
I'm
surprised
about
not
hearing
about
numbers,
that's
pretty
normal
in
this
industry,
as
we've
all
seen.
My
question,
though,
is
I
realize
this:
isn't
a
concept
plan
review,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we've
dealt
with
in
the
past
when
we're
creating
permanently
affordable
housing
on
site
is
the
building
materials
and
sort
of
standards
of
the
house
are
a
little
different
than
what
ends
up
being
built
for
the
market
rent
units?
G
Do
we
have
any
knowledge
about
what
the
plan
is
there?
Will
they
be
comparable
or
is
there
going
to
be
big
differences
and
build
materials
and
end
result.
AF
AF
That
the
affordable
housing
has
to
meet
in
terms
of
livability
standards,
size,
storage,
materials,
interior
and
exterior.
So
all
of
those
things
are
codified
and,
to
be
blunt,
that
was
probably
a
result
of
some
bad
actors
many
years
ago
trying
to
do
adam
what
you're
kind
of
contemplating
here.
So
it's
not
allowable.
The
second
part
of
this
is,
if
you
look
at
the
boulder
housing
partner
sites
throughout
the
city,
I
would
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
quality,
especially
the
things
that
they've
done
lately,
it's
phenomenal.
AF
A
residential
feel
there
it
will
have
a
different
architecture
and
that's
purposeful.
It
certainly
will
not
be
a
lower
quality
product
and
laura
I'm
sure,
you're
champing
at
the
bit
to
address
that
one,
because
I
know
bhp
is
very
proud
of
the
quality
level
that
they
create.
AK
Yeah,
thank
you
bill
and
adam.
I
I
hear
you
on
your
concern
there
and
I
can
assure
you
that
it
is
our
goal
to
always
develop
to
a
standard
that
is
seamless
with
the
rest
of
the
community.
So
it's
the
same
quality
with
maybe
a
few
small
things
like
a
countertop
material
or
something
like
that.
But
it
is
high
quality,
excellent
construction
and
really
integrated,
and
you
can't
really
tell
I
mean
if
you
were
to
drive
through
boulder.
AK
It's
been
my
great
pleasure
to
take
some
council
members
and
some
of
my
board
members-
and
you
know
it's.
I
point
and
people
are
really
amazed
of
the
product,
that's
in
the
portfolio
that
we
own
and
manage.
So
it
is
always
our
intent
to
make
sure
that
it
is
as
strong
a
product
as
absolutely
possible
so
that
we
won't
be
cutting
corners.
I
can
assure
you.
G
I've
just
heard
about
things
like
windows,
just
the
long
term
aspects
that
aren't
noticeable
necessarily
within
the
first
few
years
of
build,
but
may
show
up
a
decade
or
so
later
compared
to
the
the
for
profit
units,
so
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there.
Thank
you
for
the
answers
you.
V
Adam
bob-
I
just
wanted
to
thank
adam
for,
for
raising
that
point
and
and
kind
of
maybe
pile
on
to
what
laura
said.
I
had
the
great
pleasure
of
serving
as
council's
liaison
to
the
boulder
housing
partners
board
for
three
years,
and
so
I
know
firsthand
the
quality
of
the
products
that
they
build
and
in
fact,
what
bhp
did
a
few
years
ago
is
they
had
some.
V
That
was
not
always
the
case,
and
there
were
some
properties
that
were
built,
oh
in
the
70s
and
80s
that
were
not
high
quality
adam
and
what
bhp
did
is
they
spent
millions
of
dollars
going
back
through
those
properties,
one
by
one
and
bringing
them
up
to
commercial
standards
to
to
standards
that
we
all
enjoy
now?
So
not
only
do
they
build
new
things
very,
very
well,
they
actually
went
back
and
spent
a
lot
of
money.
They
didn't
have
to
do
this.
AF
And
then
one
more
item
on
something
that
was
already
brought
up
is
mark.
You
were
asking
about
costs,
there's
an
important
piece
to
keep
in
mind.
All
sites
are
not
equal
and
some
sites
that
are
generally
ready
for
development
have
a
it's
like
buying
a
used
car
versus
buying
a
new
car.
This
site
needs
to
be
reclaimed
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
extremely
expensive
in
reclamation.
AF
The
storm
water
is
currently
contained
in
asphalt,
detention
ponds,
which
doesn't
that
doesn't
come
close
to
meeting
our
acidic
standards.
It
all
has
to
be
redone
all
of
the
utilities,
not
just
the
utilities,
into
each
site,
but
the
area,
regional
utilities
that
are
going
to
serve
the
whole.
This
development
and
the
future
developments
all
have
to
be
redone.
There
are
no
streets,
there
are
no
sidewalks.
Those
are
all
public
improvements
that
will
be
put
in
place.
AF
It's
an
urban
site,
so
all
of
the
parking
will
be
structured
at
a
cost
of,
and
this
is
architect
math
right.
So
take
this
with
a
big
grain
of
salt,
I'm
not
a
contractor
but
40
50,
000
or
thirty.
Forty
thousand
dollars,
something
like
that.
For
every
structured
parking
space,
as
opposed
to
an
asphalt
parking
space
on
grade,
which
is
you
know,
literally
an
eighth
of
that
cost.
AF
So
when
you
look
at
all
of
those
things
that
that
those
expenses
come
with
buying
this
used
car
and
whatever
the
the
cost
per
door,
would
be
you
really
can't
compare
site
to
site
without
understanding
the
infrastructure,
improvements
and
the
typology
of
construction
that
are
going
to
go
with
that.
So
that's
just
something
really
critical
to
keep
in
mind.
L
B
B
I
would
like
to
move
that
we
adopt
ordinance
85
12,
granting
authority
to
the
approving
authority
under
title
ix,
land
use
code,
brc
1981,
to
approve
a
development
that
does
not
meet
the
minimum
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standards
for
property
in
the
business
community.
One
district
located
at
3320
28th
street
at
diagonal
plaza
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
documents
that
will
secure,
affordable
housing
on
the
property
and
setting
forth
related
details.
B
Second,
great:
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
I
think
that
this
is
fantastic,
that
we
are
doing
this.
This
site
needs
a
catalyst
very
badly.
I
do
acknowledge
the
issue,
but
before
I
go
on,
I
see
your
hands
up
sandra
may
I.
S
AE
I'm
just
going
to
jump
in
if,
if
I
may
hear
weaver-
and
this
was
the
recommended
language
change-
that
I'm.
B
Amendment
sucka
all
right
sandra.
Did
I
get
everything
in
there
awesome.
Okay,
great
this
site
needs
love,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
way
to
bring
love
to
the
site.
It
also
was,
unfortunately,
constrained
by
the
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
standards,
which
would
have
given
us
products
that
we
were
not
very
happy
with.
I
want
to
commend
it,
the
the
coburn
and
everyone
involved
by
putting
the
affordable
units
on
site,
as
everyone
understands.
B
That
is
a
goal
that
we
have
on
this
council
and
as
a
city
to
have
a
mixture
of
affordable
on
market
rate.
Together,
I
think
this
ordinance
will
enable
the
change
that
we
want
to
see
on
this
site
that
desperately
needs
to
be
brought
into
the
21st
century
or
the
22nd
century.
So
with
that
bob
I'll
go
to
you,
you
said
to
welcome
thanks
all
right
thanks
and
with
that.
I
believe
that
we're
ready
to
vote
unless
I'm
missing
something
alicia
roll
call.
Is
that
correct
that.
G
B
D
V
D
M
F
B
Excellent-
and
I
will
just
point
out-
and
maybe
I
need
to
hear
from
the
attorneys
on
this
as
well-
by
by
putting
those
different
words
in
the
motion
language
for
does
not
meet.
The
intention
was
that
the
title
of
the
ordinance
also
would
replace
exceeds
what
does
not
mean
correct
yeah.
Okay,
super
very
good.
All
right.
I
think
we
are
done
with
that.
Thank
you
all
to
everyone
who
participated
in
this.
B
D
B
Excellent
thanks
very
much.
I
think
this
is
pretty
obvious
what
this
is.
We
have
appointed
a
subcommittee
and
it's
time
to
to
span
the
subcommittee,
and
I
think
this
needs
to
be
done
by
vote,
and
so,
if
we
discuss
it
now-
and
we
agree,
I
think
we'll
bring
forward
whatever
language
we
need
on
consent
at
the
next
meeting.
V
B
So
so
this
is
the
process
subcommittee,
bob,
okay,
okay,
so
this
is
the
one
that
council
did
appoint
yeah
yeah,
it's
a
subcommittee
that
we
appointed
that
held.
I
think
we've
had
three
different
sets
of
council
members
in
the
life
of
this
process
subcommittee.
So
yeah
I
no.
This
is
the
actual
subcommittee,
not
okay.
V
That's
fine.
I
support
it.
B
S
Yes,
I
believe
so
I
I
don't
think
I
need
anything
just
to
be
clear.
I
don't
know
if
it's
required
to
if
the
council
council's
required
to
take
action
on
disbanding,
but
if,
if
it's
council's
desire
to
do
so,
we
can
certainly
move
forward
on
that
and
bring
it
on
consent
for
the
next
meeting.
B
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you
what
the
proper
thing
to
do
is.
I
know
that
we
I'm
not
sure
if
we
voted,
but
I
know
that
we
appointed
the
subcommittee.
I
assume
that
we
voted
to
do
so,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
what
it
would
take
to
dismant
the
subcommittee.
Often
the
subcommittee's
lived
for
a
long
time.
In
this
case
it
was
temporary,
so
I'll,
let
you
have
a
look
at
that
and
we'll
just
make
sure
to
do
whatever
we
need
if
we
need
to
bring
something
forward
on
consent.
The
next
meeting.
B
B
F
Yeah
thanks
sam,
so
as
everybody
probably
remembers
after
the
mass
shooting
in
march,
state
took
a
look
at
the
preemption
law
state
lawmakers
and
they
repealed
preemption
of
like
where
the
state
said
that
cities
could
not
pass
their
own
gun
laws.
Basically,
so
we
now
have
the
opportunity
to
pass
and
implement
new
gun
laws
as
cities.
Thanks
to
that
legislation,
and
shortly
after
that
law
was
passed.
F
Both
national
organizations
created
and
drafted
some
model
legislations
that
cities
could
look
at.
It's
currently
being
reviewed
the
model
legislation
for
the
likelihood
of
surviving
legal
challenges,
but
I
think
that's
just
about
done
so
other
cities
are
starting
to
present
to
their
city
councils
a
request
to
move
forward
with
this
legislation
or
versions
of
this
legislation
and
adam,
I
think,
invited
a
couple
of
us
to
speak
at
the
consortium
of
cities
a
few
months
ago.
F
So
it's
it's
known
that
this
is
in
the
works
up
and
down
kind
of
the
in
our
county
at
least,
and
up
and
down
the
front
range
of
it.
So
the
concept
is
to
collaborate
with
other
front
range
cities,
moving
forward
on
sort
of
passing
a
suite
of
gun
laws,
possibly
on
the
same
day,
but
that
hasn't
quite
been
worked
out.
F
F
So
that's
part
of
the
concept,
and
so
my
my
request
for
tonight
is
just
another
five
to
invite
staff
to
support
the
regional
effort,
because
I
think
it
will
probably
move
forward
prior
to
our
retreat,
which
would
be
the
next
logical
time
that
I
could
ask
for
a
nine
to
five
to
get
this
added
to
the
work
plan
and
I'm
not
asking
for
us
to
decide
or
work
through
which
laws
we
might
be
interested
in
passing.
F
F
B
Perfect
and
I'll
turn
to
nuria
and
maria
just
a
question:
do
we
need
a
knot
of
five
happy
to
provide
one
if
you'd
like
one,
but
can
you
tell
us
what
staff
plans
are
for
supporting
the
gun,
violence
prevention,
work
going
from
this
council
into
the
next
council.
H
I
would
say
this
that
if
we
are-
and
I
appreciate
the
question
and
thanks
rachel
for
bringing
it
up-
if
really
it
is
to
support
the
work,
that's
going
on
with
the
consortium
and
then
seeing
where
we
are
and
thinking
about
what
policies
are
coming
up,
then
I
don't
think
we
need
an
out
of
five.
I
think
where
we'd
need
another
five,
if
there
are
items
from
that
support
that
say,
oh
now,
we
want
to
add
this
or
build
more.
F
That
would
be
great.
I
think
that
what
will
happen
is
there
will
be
sort
of
a
quick
turnaround,
effort
where
we
need
to
vet
the
model
legislation
and
make
sure
that
we
are
supportive
and
that's
probably
more
city
attorney's
office
I
would
think
than
than
any
other
department.
So
I
guess
I
just
didn't-
want
to
not
have
an
out
of
five
in
place
and
to
green
light
and
for
staff
to
be
able
to
work
on
it.
If
there
are
quick
things
that
need
to
get
done
and
we
haven't
talked
through
it.
H
F
H
I
was
just
going
to
say
I
agree
and
certainly
open
to
legal
if
they
want
to
weigh
in,
but
in
talking
to
carl
too.
I
just
believe
the
major
lift
of
supporting
of
of
doing
the
model.
Let
us
j
legislation
would
probably
be
the
consortium,
and
we
would
certainly
be
supporting
that
if
we
were
drafting
it
all
on
our
own,
then
that's
a
whole
different
concept
and
that
would
add
a
lot
more
to
cao.
But
certainly
as
we
move
forward,
we
can.
H
We
can
certainly
support
how
the
consortium
is
moving
forward
and
then
adding
our
review
look
to
it.
But
I
will
also
just
let
sandra
because
we
have
not
spoken
to
cao
to
see
if
she
had
other
thoughts.
S
Thank
you.
So
you
know,
I
would
also
agree
that
we
could
support
this
work,
that
a
lot
of
the
work's
already
been
done,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
efforts
of
all
of
the
consortium
and
and
you
rachel
and
bringing
it
forward.
We
were
intending
to
make
a
change
to
our
existing
ordinance
anyway,
so
that
could
be
something
that
could
be
coupled
together
with
these
new
proposed
changes
and
brought
forward
all
at
once
or,
however,
you
know
whatever
council
as
well
is.
We
can
certainly
accommodate
that.
F
That
sounds
great
and
just
to
clarify
that
consortium
isn't
doing
work
on
this.
It's
it's
giffords
and
moms,
and
then
a
couple
of
us.
So
I
don't
I,
the
consortium
is
not
going
to
vet
these.
The
proposed
ordinances
for
us.
Each
city
needs
to
do
that
for
themselves:
they're,
just
giving
us
model
ordinances,
which
our
cities
would
have
to
decide
which
we
want
to
adopt,
and
our
attorneys
would
need
to
vet
and
and
tailor
them
to
our
cities,
charters
and
and
desires.
So
I
don't
want
to
overstate
that.
You
know.
F
I
think
that
the
consortium
work
is
going
to
be
like
getting
together
for
the
same
day
and
sort
of
logistical
things,
but
it's
not
the
actual
ordinances.
B
Okay,
aaron.
B
E
Thanks,
no
thanks
so
much
rachel
for
bringing
this
forward
and
very
glad
to
hear
nuri
and
sandra
that
you
can
move
forward
on
this
without
us
specifically
authorizing,
and
I
would
just
say
on
behalf
of
someone
who
is
going
to
be
here
for
the
next
council
that
if
you
did
do
hit
a
point
where
you
need
further
council
authorization.
Please
come
to
us
without
delay
to
the
new
council.
For
that,
if
you
need
it.
B
Thank
you
aaron,
and
I
was
going
to
say
exactly
what
aaron
just
did
so
I'll
just
plus
one
that
it
seems
like
we
should
be
doing
all
the
work
we
need
to
to
be
able
to
get
this
pass
in
line
up
with
other
cities
in
the
region,
and
so,
if
there
is
a
question
about
you
know,
does
council
really
want
us
to
spend
all
this
time
on
it?
Please
come
back
because
I
think
the
answer
is
probably
going
to
be
yes,
but
we're
in
this
transition
period
between
councils.
G
Yeah
in
that
vein,
I
think
it
might
be
important
to
maybe
not
necessarily
appoint,
but
at
least
authorize
a
temporary
council
member
to
be
coordinating
with
the
consortium,
since
I
will
not
be
around
to
make
that
happen,
I
think
rachel
is
an
obvious
choice
and
she's
been
doing
most
of
the
work,
but
there
will
you
know
there.
I
think
there
might
be
a
meeting
before
you
all
appoint
the
next
consortium
representative
and
in
would
in
that
case
I
want
to
make
sure
the
work
is
able
to
continue.
B
B
Okay,
is
there
an
ask
for
council
action
here.
G
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
okay,
if
communication,
needs
to
happen.
That
rachel
is,
you
know,
given
the
okay
by
council,
to
do
that.
B
B
Okay,
any
other
discussion
at
this
point
at
all
gun,
violence
prevention.
All
right,
I
think,
we've
got
that
cleared
up.
I
think
we
got
nods
from
city
attorney's
office
and
city
manager's
office,
so
we're
good
to
go
and
we'll
hear
if
there's
a
need
for
any
further
authorization
for
work
awesome.
So
that
item
is
done
and
alicia.
I
believe
we're
at
the
end
of
our
agenda
is
that
correct.