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B
A
Recording
super.
Thank
you
all
right.
I
will
gather
this
meeting
to
order.
Welcome
everyone
to
the
boulder
city
council
meeting
of
may
18th,
we'll
start
with
a
couple
of
quick
announcements
tonight,
first
as
usual,
if
you
would
like
to
be
notified,
if
you
have
been
exposed
to
somebody
with
covid
sign
up
at
www.addyourphone.com,
if
you
would
like
information
about
getting
a
covid
vaccine,
you
can
do
so
at
the
website.
A
That's
up,
boco.org,
boco.org,
slash,
covid
vaccine
notify
sign
up,
and
finally,
we
are
still
looking
for
applicants
to
join
us
on
our
city
boards
and
commissions.
We
have
three
of
them:
left
open,
boulder,
junction
access,
district
parking,
boulder
junction
access,
district
travel
demand
management
and
the
beverage
licensing
authority.
We
would
love
to
have
you
join
us
for
one
of
those
boards?
You
can
apply
at
boulder,
colorado.gov
boards
and
commissions,
and
with
that
alicia,
could
you
please
call
the
roll.
D
Yes,
sir,
and
good
evening,
everyone
councilmember
brockett
president
friend
here
joseph
prison,
nagel.
B
B
E
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
before
we
get
going
on
our
next
item,
that
item
will
have
language
surf
language
interpretation
for
us
and
so
ryan.
I'm
gonna
turn
to
you
and
see
if
you'd
like
to
do
any
explanation
of
interpretation
for
us
and
then
aaron.
I
see
your
hand
after
that
ryan.
C
That's
good,
thank
you.
So
much
as
let
me
mentioned
we'll
have
interpretation
for
this
evening's
covet
update
and
want
to
make
sure
to
share
some
quick
reminders
and
you
can
select
an
interpretation
in
the
participate
in
a
meeting
in
english
or
in
spanish,
using
the
interpretation
globe
icon
in
your
menu
and
a
reminder
to
all
speakers
to
clearly
pronounce
each
word
and
to
take
a
breath
between
sentences
and
to
please
not
overlap.
C
F
D
Can
look,
is
it
for
the
is
it
for
the
public
hearing
or
the
open
comment.
They
did
not
specify
all
right.
I
will
go
ahead
and
resend
the
the
link
to
everyone.
I
think
it
might
be
the
public
hearing,
because
that's
the
last
one
we
sent
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
it.
While
you
guys
are
taking
care
of
business
thanks.
So
much
no
worries.
G
H
I
am,
and
can
you
all
see
my
screen
now,
yep
all
good,
so
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
lexi
nolan.
I
am
the
deputy
director
of
boulder
county
public
health
and
I
want
to
say
thank
you
city
council,
for
for
having
us
this
evening,
I'm
here
with
trina
rueland,
our
attorney
and
chris
urbina,
our
chief
medical
officer,
to
provide
some
data
updates,
as
well
as
some
updates
on
our
public
health
orders
and
to
answer
any
questions.
Folks
have
I
will
say
before
we
get
started
that
we
do
have
great
news.
H
We
did
pass
the
70
of
eligible
boulder
county
residents
vaccinated
last
week,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that.
Of
course.
No
sooner
did
we
pass
that
that
marker
that
milestone,
then
we
had
another
group
eligible
to
receive
the
vaccine,
which
is
also
wonderful
news.
So
now
our
12
to
15
year
olds
can
get
vaccinated
and
from
what
we're
hearing
that's
happening
at
a
rapid
pace.
So
that's
wonderful
to
hear-
and
that
was
speaking
too
fast,
I'll
slow
down
so
just
to
review
some
of
the
numbers.
H
If
we
look
at
a
breakdown
by
ethnicity
and
race,
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
busy
slide,
but
I
this
is
a
new
kind
of
slide
that
we're
using
and
what
we
like
about
it
is
that
it
not
only
provides
information
about
how
many
folks
have
been
vaccinated
in
each
specific
group.
It
also
shows
the
number
of
people
that
remain
unvaccinated
within
that
group,
and
this
is
really
helping
us
to
think
about
how
we
target
our
messages.
H
This
is
our
geographic
map
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
continues
to
get
darker
and
which
is
wonderful
news.
We
now
have
an
area
of
boulder
county
where
over
75
percent
have
been
vaccinated.
I
will
point
out,
as
I
usually
do,
that
most
of
the
areas
that
are
under
50
vaccination
rates.
We
have
no
areas
that
are
under
25,
that
the
areas
that
are
between
25
and
50
of
the
folks
that
are
vaccinated
tend
to
be
less
dense
areas.
H
H
This
is
a
breakout
of
our
different
age
groups,
and
I
think
folks
will
remember
that
recently,
we've
been
very
concerned
about
the
high
numbers
of
cases,
particularly
among
young
folks,
so
our
10
to
22
year
olds
and
even
up
to
about
35
year
olds,
have
been
high
up
in
this
in
the
number
in
the
rates
lately.
And
what
we're
seeing
is
this
dramatic
decrease
in
cases
and
there's?
A
significant
amount
of
this
is
due
to
the
vaccination
uptake,
including
in
younger
folks,
which
we're
starting
to
make
more
progress
with.
H
H
And
this
is
just
a
really
nice
slide
that
illustrates
the
relationship
between
the
vaccine
up
uptake
and
the
changes
in
cases
that
we've
seen.
So
as
we
follow
this
orange
line,
and
we
see
the
number
of
folks
vaccinated
the
percent
of
folks
vaccinated,
we
see
this
decline
in
cases
and,
of
course,
what
you
know,
the
quick,
quick
reaction
is
to
say:
well,
wait
a
second.
You
have
a
period
here
between
march
or
during
march,
when
cases
and
vaccinations
were
increasing
and
that's
true
and
that's
because
the
vaccine
takes
a
little
while
to
work
right.
H
H
If
we
look
at
hospital
admission
rates
for
boulder
county
and
the
denver
metro
region
in
adams
county,
this
is
the
pattern
that
we
see
going
back
to
early
march,
and
I'm
showing
you
these
three
to
show
you
the
extremes
of
the
two
of
two
counties
in
the
denver
metro
region.
This
orange
line
is
boulder.
H
The
pink
line
is
the
average
of
all
the
metro
counties
and
the
blue
line
is
adams
county,
just
as
an
example,
because
it's
had
some
higher
hospitalization
rates,
and
this
particular
metric
is
important,
because
this
blue
level
right
here
that
goes
across
here.
This
is
the
level
that
would
create
an
automatic
snapback
from
our
current
position
in
the
level
clear
on
the
dial
which
allows
us
to
gather
without
restrictions.
If
we
breach
this
blue
line,
then
we
will
automatically
go
back
to
more
restrictions.
H
And
our
seven-day
positivity
is
precipitously
declining
recently,
so
we've
been,
we
were
hovering
between
four
and
five
percent
for
a
good
five
or
six
weeks,
which
was
making
us
a
little
bit
nervous.
And
now
what
we're
seeing
is
that
impact
of
the
vaccinations
there?
There
is
a
decline
in
testing,
but
the
decline
is
not
significant
enough
to
make
us
worried
that
this
positivity
rate
isn't
accurate
for
the
people
for
the
groups
that
are
being
tested.
H
We
do
want
to
encourage
people
to
keep
getting
tested,
especially
if
you
haven't
been
vaccinated
and
especially
among
kids,
which
is
still
where
we're
seeing
the
higher
transmission
rates,
and
you
can
see
how
the
change
in
deaths
has
how
the
vaccines
have
impacted
the
change
in
deaths,
and
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
not
heard
of
a
case
in
colorado
to
this
point
where
someone
who
has
had
a
vaccination
has
died
of
copiod.
H
H
So
just
really
hoping
people
keep
on
it
a
little
bit
as
I
was
saying,
testing
has
dropped
a
little,
but
not
significantly,
and
so
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
data
resources
if
you're
interested
in
learning
more.
I
do
want
to
take
a
minute
to
just
really
thank
the
city
of
boulder
for
all
of
the
partnership
that
we've
had
in
achieving
this
milestone.
H
We
work
with
you
guys
in
so
many
different
ways
and
just
deeply
appreciate
everything
that
you've
done
to
jump
in
lend
resources,
lend
ideas,
work
with
us,
be
patient
with
us,
as
we
really
you
know,
explore
some
news
ways
of
doing
things
together
and
tackling
hard
problems.
So
just
thank
you
so
much
to
all
of
you
for
for
the
partnership,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
move,
to
address
the
the
virus
and
to
move
into
recovery.
H
I
I
I
However,
the
state
does
have
a
very
minimal
covid19
restriction
order
still
in
place.
It
does
apply
to
indoor
public
spaces
with
more
than
100
people
gathered
in
a
single
room
that
will
remain
in
effect
until
june.
1St.
The
state
order
also
still
requires
schools
and
early
childhood
education
centers
to
follow
case
and
outbreak
guidance,
which
means
that
schools
are
still
subject
to
quarantine
and
isolation
requirements.
I
The
second
component
of
this
is
the
face
covering
order.
The
state
in
response
to
the
cdc's,
updated
guidance
that
came
out
last
wednesday,
updated
its
statewide
face,
covering
order
and
just
to
to
clarify
what
happened.
The
cdc
issued
new
guidance
for
vaccinated
people
saying
that,
if
you
are
vaccinated,
you
can
essentially
go
back
to
pre-pandemic
life
in
most
situations.
I
This
guidance
was
not
intended
for
health
care
settings,
nor
was
it
intended
for
to
supersede
local
or
state
orders,
and
so
state
orders
are
still
in
effect.
I
just
want
to
make
that
very
clear,
even
in
light
of
the
cdc
guidance.
I
So
in
response
to
that
cdc
guidance,
the
state
changed
its
face
covering
order
and
said.
If
you
are
vaccinated,
we
no
longer
recommend
that
you
have
to
wear
a
mask.
However,
if
you
are
unvaccinated,
we
recommend
you
wear
a
mask
and
a
mask
is
required
if
you're
unvaccinated
in
a
school
setting
jail,
setting,
congregate,
hair
care
facility
and
health
care
settings,
boulder,
county's
public
health,
local
mass
quarter
is
still
in
effect.
I
We
have
been
spending
the
past
couple
of
days,
getting
stakeholder
input
talking
to
our
partners
and
making
sure
that
we
fully
understand
the
cdc
guidance
and
how
it
interacts
with
us
as
a
county
and
a
local
jurisdiction.
A
Great
well,
thank
you
both
lexi
and
trina.
We
always
love
hearing
from
you
and
these
updates
are
getting
better
and
better.
So
we'll
just
keep
having
you
back.
So
that's
great.
I
turn
to
council
and
see
if
council
has
any
questions
any
clarifying
questions.
Mary.
J
Yes,
I
thank
you
lexi
and
to
boulder
county
public
health,
and
I
just
wanted
to
compliment
you
on
how
far
we've
come
with
the
date
of
disaggregation
compared
to
the
beginning
of
the
pandemic.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
update.
A
Great
any
other
questions,
seeing
none
I'll,
repeat,
lexi
your
thanks
always
thank
you
back
for
all
the
work
that
boulder
county
public
health
has
done
with
us.
It's
been
a
long
road
and
we
had
to
ramp
up
pretty
quickly
and
we
leaned
on
you
quite
a
bit.
So
thanks
for
your
partnership
and
your
cooperation
in
getting
us
to
where
we
are
last
call
council
members
any
further
questions,
all
right
with
that.
Thank
you.
Yeah
mark.
K
Yeah
I
did,
but
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
my
ray's
hand
function
is
not
working.
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
to
do
about
that
at
the
moment,
and
somebody
can
give
me
some
guidance
that
would
help,
but
I
do
have
a
question
which
is:
it
seems
that
businesses
are
setting
their
own
standards
for
the
conduct
of
business
within
their
premises.
Is.
K
Is
that
the
case
that
they're
all
free
to
do
so
require
masks
not
require
masks?
However,
they
see
fit.
I
So
until
we
update
the
order,
masks
are
still
required
in
all
public
indoor
spaces.
We
expect
the
order
to
be
updated
tomorrow.
Once
that
happens,
businesses
in
general
do
have
the
ability
to
still
require
masks,
and
if
you
are
a
higher
risk
business
you
know
younger
clientele.
We
would
recommend
that
you
do
require
masks
in
that
situation.
The
same
guidance
from
the
state
still
applies,
there's
actually
some
very
helpful
civil
rights
guidance
for
businesses.
I
If
they
require
masks,
can
they
ask
you
to
put
one
on
yes,
that
that
kind
of
stuff
that
that
all
still
exists
there?
Businesses
can
also
inquire
about
vaccine
status
in
most
situations.
H
If
I
could
just
add
on
to
trina's
comment,
we
will
be
looking
over
the
next
few
days
about
how
to
help
businesses
think
about
what
whether
a
masked
policy
or
an
inquiry
policy
is
appropriate
for
their
staff
or
for
their
customers
and
we'll
be
working
on
some
communications
to
help
and
support
them.
A
Super-
and
I
guess
I
see
chris
urbina
here
chris
I'll
turn
to
you
briefly
and
see:
do
you
have
anything
that
you
want
to
share
with
us?
We've
got
you
here.
A
A
So
with
that
our
first
people
signed
up
for
open
comment
tonight
are
donna,
george,
patrick
murphy
and
jane
wilson,
oh,
and
before
I
call
on
donna,
I
will
let
folks
know
that
our
interpretation
services
will
be
ending
now
that
the
coveted
briefing
is
over.
So
the
rest
of
the
meeting
will
not
be
interpreted
and
with
that
donna
we
are
ready
for
your.
M
C
A
N
Okay
hi,
my
name,
is
donna
george.
I
live
at
4661,
tally,
ho
court
and
I'm
I'm
talking
tonight
about
the
gun
barrel.
Community
center
plan
iga,
which
I
believe
is
expiring
this
month
and
it
needs
to
be
renewed
because
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
for
the
gun
barrel
community
center
plan.
The
plan
protects
the
area
from
a
lot
of
high
buildings
being
built
there,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
in
gun
bureau.
N
Don't
want
to
just
have
a
whole
bunch
of
high
buildings
blocking
their
views
in
the
gun
barrel
center
area.
In
relation
to
that
also
is
the
gun
barrel
sub-community
plan,
which
we
really
need
a
gun,
barrel
sub-community
plan,
and
I
think
that
needs
to
be
done
before
any
more
development
in
the
gun
barrel
area
is
approved
because
the
people
in
gun
barrel
dumbbell
is
a
very
unique
area.
It's
it
has.
N
You
know
the
city
annexed
a
lot
of
areas,
especially
mainly
the
retail
and
the
commercial
centers,
but
many
of
the
housing
is
in
an
area
that
many
people
want
to
remain
as
rural,
suburban
and
yet
it
seems
to
be
that
the
city
and
others
may
want
to
just
turn
this
into
an
urban
area
to
put
in
as
much
housing
as
possible
to
serve
the
employment
centers
of
the
city
of
boulder
and
that's
disingenuous
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
gun
barrel
area.
This
is
where
they
live.
N
They
should
have
a
strong
voice
in
what
happens
in
their
community
and
how
their
community
changes
and
develops
in
the
future.
It
does
not
mean
that
they're
against
any
changes.
It
does
not
mean
that
they
wouldn't
even
welcome
some
density,
but
they
do
not
want
to
be
turned
into
a
major,
dense
area
just
for
just
to
provide
housing
for
the
city
of
boulder,
because
the
city
of
boulder
is
bringing
in
so
many
jobs
and
with
the
tech
industry.
N
It
is
happening
more
and
more.
I
will
be
talking
on
the
library
district
tonight,
but
this
is
just
an
aside
because
I
was
reading
over
the
library
district.
Thank.
A
O
This
is
a
reality
check
on
the
transparency,
failure
of
public
access
to
email
sent
to
city
council,
I'm
asking
if
this
failure
is
due
to
incompetence
intention
or
what
slide
two,
if
you
figure
out
the
three-step
process
to
get
to
the
emails
you're
confronted
with
this
a
web
page,
only
a
data
manager
could
love
this
lists,
data
fields
that
are
available
as
if
most
folks
know
what
this
even
means.
I
do
know
what
it
means
and
after
playing
around
with
it
for
about
15
minutes,
I
got
nowhere
slide
three.
O
So
I
clicked
the
data
tab.
I
got
to
see
something
that
represented
emails,
but
they
weren't
readable,
since
the
columns
are
locked,
not
good.
I
wanted
to
find
emails.
I
sent
that
included
web
links
and
graphics
to
see
what
they
looked
like.
I
tried
scrolling
down
10
lines
at
a
time
through
the
32
000
lines,
which
was
nuts,
it
took
about
half
an
hour
to
figure
out
the
filter,
icon
versus
sorting,
but
I
then
found
I
still
had
to
export
the
data
to
excel
to
actually
work
with
it.
O
O
The
city's
website
states
that
all
emails
are
posted
and
nothing
is
redacted.
Both
of
these
statements
are
false.
Slide.
Six
not
only
are
images
and
links
redacted,
but
dozens
of
emails
are
missing
slide.
Seven.
This
is
what
my
emails
actually
look
like,
not
a
string
of
text.
This
needs
to
be
resolved
slide.
Eight
next
time
back
to
critical
review
of
boulder's
need
for
fast
carbon
reduction
instead
of
just
blowing
smoke
and
nuria.
It's
wonderful
to
have
you
here,
look
forward
to
meeting
you
someday
in
the
future
thanks.
P
Hey
my
name
is
james
likes
wilson.
I
live
on
maxwell
avenue
in
boulder.
I
am
commenting
about
the
library
funding
issue
this
evening.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
very
much
for
discussing
the
library
funding
issue
this
evening.
As
many
of
us
know,
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
we
have
waited
and
watched
one
of
our
most
loved
and
used
institutes
fade
as
the
funding
for
the
library,
as
always,
is
first
to
be
cut
and
last
to
never
to
be
restored.
P
This
will
allow
the
two
groups
to
appoint
a
library
district
board
and
to
work
through
the
legal,
administrative
and
logical
details
of
an
inter-government
agreement.
This
will
allow
the
boulder
community
to
have
their
voices
heard
when
it's
time
for
them
to
vote.
The
library
is
unlike
any
space
in
boulder.
P
P
A
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
ray
bomba
and
I
live
on
13th
street.
I'm
urging
the
council
to
take
the
891
12th
street
property
off
today's
consent
agenda,
because
the
most
important
conditions
for
approval
are
currently
not
under
cons,
consideration
and
were
inadequately
addressed
in
the
last
meeting.
24-Hour
on-site
management
is
critical
to
protect
the
neighbors
from
undue
burden.
Night
time
is
the
most
important
time
to
have
an
accountable
person
on
site.
The
only
argument
against
this
requirement
came
from
the
developer,
who
comes
who
claim
that
they're
in
their
experience
it
would
be
ineffective.
Q
An
alternative
explanation
for
the
developer's
resistance
to
on-site
management,
as
was
presented
at
the
last
meeting,
is
the
fact
that
they
market
their
properties
on
facebook
as
party
houses,
and
it
goes
against
the
business
model.
Another
obvious
explanation
is
the
additional
cost,
but
please
do
the
math.
This
property
will
undoubtedly
generate
three-quarters
of
a
million
dollars
per
year
in
revenue
or
more.
Q
It
is
absurd
to
suggest
that
the
neighbors
should
bear
the
cost
of
enforcement,
rather
than
the
landlord
consider
the
cost
to
the
neighbors
of
having
to
get
out
of
bed,
call
the
management
property
and
the
police
and
complain
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
These
neighbors
are
adults
with
jobs
and
responsibilities.
Q
Q
R
As
lily
tomlin
said
no
matter
how
cynical
I
get,
I
can't
keep
up
now.
We
learn
from
the
rocky
mountain
peace
and
justice
center
that
their
open
records
request
shows
city
council
ignored
all
119
citizen
emails
asking
for
an
open
hearing
about
the
rocky
mountain
greenway,
which
should
be
called
the
plutonium
pathway.
R
Instead,
city
and
county
officials
colluded
to
deny
the
hearing
and
endorse
the
plutonium
pathway
so
you're
being
sued.
What
a
contrast
with
my
open
records
request,
showing
that
in
the
first
240
days
of
2017,
the
director
of
the
boulder
downtown
partnership,
wrote
211
emails
to
counsel
and
got
a
reply
to
every
single
one.
R
We
pay
you
to
represent
the
people,
not
boulders,
oligarchs
and
plutocrats.
To
quote
craig
mundy
sunday
senior
advisor
to
the
ceo
of
microsoft,
member
of
obama's
council
of
advisors
on
science
and
tech
at
boulder's,
famous
gold
symposium
last
week
quote:
government
is
pathetic.
Unquote,
here's
how
it
works
here,
rich
and
powerful.
Governor
polis,
is
a
pathetic
toady
to
oil
and
gas,
which
we
saw
when
he
killed
off
the
anti-fracking
ballot
initiatives
he
sponsored
in
2014..
R
A
S
Great
thank
you
hi,
I'm
lisa
nelson
and
I
leave
at
tenth
in
college
and
I'm
speaking
tonight
to
respectful
requests
that
you
take
marpa
house
off
of
tonight's
consent
agenda
to
allow
time
for
further
consideration.
There
has
been
substantial
community
input
submitted
over
the
past
two
years,
providing
information
that
would
support
denial
of
this
application.
Unfortunately,
that
information
does
not
appear
to
be
reflected
in
the
analysis
and
recommendations
being
made.
S
For
example,
it
is
difficult
to
understand
how
approval
of
this
project
can
be
given,
based
on
a
comparison
to
fraternity,
use
of
the
property
from
a
half
a
century
ago,
without
equal
consideration
of
documented
information.
From
the
most
recent
four
decades
of
use,
my
mother
remembers
going
to
parties
at
the
property
when
it
was
the
sae
house
65
years
ago.
S
In
light
of
the
strong
and
well-documented
concerns
about
this
project,
if
you
do
decide
to
approve
this
proposal
with
conditions,
please
consider
this
staff
and
applicant
draw
a
comparison
to
the
non-conforming
use
of
the
pi
beta
5
sorority
house
next
door
to
justify
approval
of
this
project.
If
that
is
in
fact
the
case,
then
the
operating
characteristics
of
this
project
should
reflect
the
same
operating
characteristics.
S
That
pi-fi
has
which
include
no
alcohol,
no
drugs,
no
parties
and
most
relevant
to
this
discussion,
a
full-time
live-in,
professional
house
manager
who
ensures
that
the
rules
are
followed
day
and
night
to
be
consistent.
The
marpa
house,
development
at
a
minimum
must
include
a
live-in
on-site
professional
manager,
a
student
tenant
acting
as
a
manager
or
an
off-site
company
representative
designated
to
take
neighbor
complaints
is
not
the
same
thing
does
not
serve
the
same
purpose
and
will
not
address
the
concerns
of
neighbors.
There's.
S
Also
a
question
of
what
will
happen
if
approval
is
granted
and
conditions
are
not
met,
it's
not
clear
if
there
will
be
any
meaningful
consequences
if
the
applicant
does
not
meet
the
conditions
you
set
speaking
for
many,
my
neighbors,
we
would
love
to
see
the
next
chapter
of
the
marpa
house
property
be
something
that
continues
the
legacy
of
peace
and
community
that
existed
there
for
over
40
years.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
service.
T
Hi,
my
name
is
rachel
daly
and
I
am
actually
here
tonight
to
talk
about
the
library
but
I'll
wait
to
talk
about
that
for
a
moment.
I
just
want
to
comment
about
our
issues
with
housing.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
controversy
around
density,
but
I
think
that
I
would
just
urge
you
guys
to
please
consider
what
what
it
means
for
the
people
who've
lived
in
colorado
who
want
to
live
in
colorado.
Who
can't
afford
to
be
here
who
can't
find
a
home
we're
experiencing
a
really
incredible
housing
shortage
right
now.
A
Thank
you
rachel.
Next,
we
have
lynn
siegel,
claire
kelly
and
gwen
barack
lynn,.
U
Yeah
first
marpa
house
do
not
rule
on
that.
Do
not
follow
the
consent
agenda.
It's
clearly
non-conforming
increasing
non-conformity-
and
you
know
my
brother
paul
lived
there
for
10
years.
It
was
at
the
end.
It
was
900
a
month,
including
food,
and
now
my
brother
is
basically
homeless
tom
and
bob
basically
homeless,
and
guess
what
bob
my
brother
does
landscaping.
He
doesn't
have
to
go
to
school.
To
go.
Do
landscaping,
he
mows
lawns,
but
he
can't
afford
to
live
here
anymore.
U
U
This
marpa
house
situation
is
the
model
of
housing
in
boulder
and
you
have
just
turned
it
into
a
frankenstein.
It's
just
so
unbelievably
unacceptable
rocky
flats,
rocky
flats.
You
got
one
lawsuit
with
rocky
flats.
Do
you
want
another?
And
you,
and
and
you've
got
another
one
coming
hopefully
from
holland
and
hart
on
marpa
house.
U
V
Hey
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
library.
Should
I
wait.
A
W
Hi
I'm
gwen
burak,
and
I
have
a
presentation
that
I
think
is
coming
up
right
now.
I
live
at
norwood
avenue
and
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
the
boulder
museum
of
contemporary
art
and
first
I
just
want
to
thank
the
city,
staff
and
city
council
members
for
all
that
you
do
to
support
the
arts
and
cultural
institutions
in
the
city,
including
bimoca
tonight,
I'm
here
to
invite
you
to
visit
the
current
exhibition
that
is
open
at
the
moca's
flagship
facility
at
1750
13th
street,
on
the
east
side
of
the
civic
area.
W
W
W
X
Good
evening
this
is
valerie,
kindred,
1212
cascade
and
regarding
the
marpa
house,
you
know
we
used
to
love
it.
When
the
students
got
back
in
town,
the
traffic
was
bad
and
they
would
hoot
and
holler
for
weeks
and
then
be
gone
until
graduation
and
now
it's
different.
Many
are
destructive,
they're,
loud
they're,
inconsiderate
and
sometimes
mean-
and
this
is
year
round-
sometimes
three
four
times
a
week.
So
now
we
dread
the
students
coming
back.
X
We
already
have
a
battle
going
on
with
this,
so
I
asked
myself:
why
has
our
civil
city
council
chosen
to
allow
48
more
students
in
a
single
family
neighborhood?
Why
would
they
do
that
and
your
answer
was
students
deserve
housing
too
48
out
of
about
what
33
000
students
is
not
worth
ruining
our
neighborhood.
This
makes
a
huge
difference
to
our
lives.
If
you
allow
this
so
we're
dismayed
that
our
community
has
not
been
heard
and
that
you
can't
understand
or
won't
that
you
are
making
a
decision
that
will
impact
us
in
a
detrimental
way.
X
For
many
many
years
we
are
willing
to
work
with
the
developer
to
come
up
with
a
new
plan
that
works
for
all.
And
yes,
we
know
that's
daunting
and
it's
going
to
cost
money,
but
it's
worth
it
to
get
it
right.
We
need
to
get
it
right
now
to
preserve
this
neighborhood
for
generations
to
come.
So
I
ask
you
to
please
deny
the
application,
but
if
not
then
at
least
take
the
next
two
weeks
to
work
on
the
conditions
to
strengthen
and
make
those
enforceable.
X
That's
parking
live
in
manager,
reporting
for
more
than
three
years
and
consequences
as
it
is.
It
will
be
too
difficult
for
us
to
monitor
and
also
there
seems
to
be
this
rumor
that
we're
a
bunch
of
privileged
folks
that
don't
want
this
in
our
backyard,
and
this
is
really
far
from
the
truth.
Many
of
us
bought
our
homes
20
30
40
years
ago
and
put
in
the
work
to
make
this
a
great
neighborhood.
We
have
jobs,
drive
old
cars
and
some
of
us
struggle
to
pay
bills.
So
there
are
all
kinds
of
people
here.
X
Y
Y
I
beg
your
pardon
city,
council
members.
I
was
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
your
faces.
It's
been
so
long.
My
name
is
michelle.
Denae
sierra,
garcia
morrissey
and
I
was
hoping
to
see
you
all
tonight,
but
here
I
am
so.
Y
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
speak
up
on
some
things
that
have
been
coming
up
for
me
personally,
based
on
my
love
of
boulder
and
my
dedication
to
this
community.
As
you
all
know,
I
was
very
disappointed
to
see
a
million
and
a
half
dollars
to
additional
positions
in
the
police
department
when
there
are
positions
yet
to
be
filled
and
that
that
money
could
have
gone
a
long
ways
in
getting
these
people
back
on
their
feet.
Y
Y
And
I
hope
that
you
would
consider
allocating
those
funds
towards
something
like
the
library
or
towards
something
like
housing,
or
I
heard
some
people
speaking
against
increased
dwelling,
but
the
reality
is.
If
we
don't
address
some
of
these
housing
issues,
then
that's
the
only
alternative
like
we
have
to
you
have
to
rent
a
room
at
this
point
you
can't
you
know
if
you're
a
young
adult
trying
to
start
your
life,
you
can't
go
rent
a
house
in
boulder.
Y
Z
Previous
discussions
by
the
city,
council
and
planning
board
has
prioritized
the
need
to
protect
the
applicant's
investment
and
limit
restrictions
on
his
development.
Some
of
the
commenters,
the
development
solicited
for
the
last
meeting
tried
to
portray
the
hill
neighbors
as
unsympathetic
and
overprivileged.
Z
On
the
contrary,
I
find
my
neighbors
to
be
caring,
honest
hard-working
people,
my
husband
and
I
have
met
residents,
teachers,
artists,
writers,
single
moms,
cu
staff
and
faculty
and
many
retired
educators.
We
are
as
hard
working
and
as
deserving
of
consideration
as
the
students
and
the
developer,
whom
this
plan
favors
as
much
as
we
love
our
neighborhood.
We
have
found
it
challenging
to
live
on
the
hill.
Even
without
dense
student
apartment
complex
in
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood.
There
are
many
streets.
We
cannot
walk
with
our
dogs
because
of
all
the
broken
glass.
Z
Last
week,
while
we
were
walking
a
student
turned
into
a
driveway
and
urinated
on
the
fence.
Over
the
past
year,
the
frequent
fireworks
have
been
nearly
unbearable
when
one
of
our
neighbors
posted
on
next
door
about
her
struggles
with
mental
illness,
because
she
couldn't
sleep
because
of
fireworks
all
night,
several
students
told
her
that
quote,
students
rule
the
hill
and
that
she
should
leave
the
neighborhood.
Z
If
she
doesn't
like
it,
we
set
up
a
soundproofed
room
in
our
basement
to
help
us
make
it
through
the
nights
last
summer
and
the
students
who
were
the
source
of
that
noise
were
several
blocks
away.
I
have
never
lived
in
a
town
where
I
need
to
call
the
police
on
my
neighbors
to
be
able
to
split
to
sleep,
but
this
is
exactly
what
the
plan
you're
putting
in
place
will
require.
Z
There
will
be
no
repercussions
for
the
developer
when
this
development
turns
out
just
like
all
their
other
properties.
Please
do
not
approve
the
reconfiguration
of
the
marpa
house
without
finding
better
enforceable
ways
to
minimize
its
impact
on
our
neighborhood.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight.
AA
Hi
ryan,
do
you
have
the
presentation
oops,
thank
you,
and,
and
can
you
oh
okay?
You
can
turn
that
on.
In
a
minute
I
I
joined
the
neighbors
who
preceded
me
in
asking
you
to
remove
marpa
house
from
tonight's
consent
agenda.
The
conditions
staff
has
drawn
up
are
not
adequate
to
protect
the
neighborhood
from
the
impacts
of
the
applicant's
proposal
to
expand
this
non-conforming
use
around
midnight.
Last
friday,
daniel
harberger
shot
the
video
that
follows
of
cedar
house,
the
applicant's
rental
property
at
14th
and
euclid.
AA
B
B
AA
If
you
could
show
the
the
photo
now
ryan,
it
would
be
great
without
a
professional
adult
manager
residing
at
the
property
full
time.
Calm
nights
will
turn
chaotic
and
daylight
will
reveal
trash
and
other
remnants
of
the
night
before,
as
written
condition,
d
does
not
guarantee
the
management
will
take
full
responsibility
for
protecting
the
neighbors
from
impacts
either
at
night
or
during
the
day,
that
is
cedar
house
on
the
left,
and
that
is
my
house
on
the
right
as
it
is
today.
Thank
you.
Bye.
A
A
Don't
see
anything
tom
anything
from
you,
I
have
nothing
sam.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council,
aaron
and
then
rachel.
F
I
had
a
question.
Ms
george
referenced,
an
iga,
that's
expiring
and
I
don't
think
that's
on
my
radar
anyway.
My
other
council
members
may
be
aware
of
that.
Is
it
possible
to
get
an
update?
Don't
expect
people
necessarily
know
offhand,
but
on
the
status
of
that
that
iga
require
regarding
gun
barrel.
AB
AC
AD
That's
correct
and-
and
thank
you
chris-
I
am
by
no
means
an
expert
in
the
topic.
However,
the
information
that
I
have
at
hand
is
that
that
iga
with
the
county
related
to
gun
barrel
was
signed
in
2006
and
it
has
a
term
of
20
years,
so
it
will
expire
in
2026
and
it
just
applies
to
the
retail
core
of
gun
barrel,
and
it's
only
for
any
development,
that's
over
three
and
a
quarter
stories
tall
and
it
allows
for
county
review
in
those
conditions.
AD
So
it's
relatively
limited
and
there's
another
five
years
left
before
it's
expiration.
F
AE
D
A
Very
good,
thank
you
alicia,
and
we
have
a
few
items
on
the
consent
agenda
to
discuss
tonight.
The
first
one
is
item
f.
That
is
a
first
reading
of
an
adjustment
to
base,
which
is
a
pretty
routine
budgetary
thing.
We
do,
but
there's
a
subject
that
we
want
further
discussion
about
for
that
I'll
turn
to
councilmember
brockett
aaron.
F
Yeah
thanks
sam.
I
appreciate
you
team
this
up
for
me
to
address
so
as
council
members
know
and
as
community
members
may
or
may
not
know.
F
The
the
second
reading
of
the
adjustment
to
base
is
scheduled
for
a
couple
weeks
from
now
and
was
scheduled
to
be
on
the
consent
agenda,
and
I
I
had
sent
an
email
to
the
council
agenda
committee
requesting
that
we
move
that
to
a
public
hearing
and
my
justification,
for
that
was
that
we've
been
putting
things
on
the
consent
agenda
that
either
have
already
had
a
public
hearing
or
that
have
minimal
community
interest
in
them
for
them,
which
I
think
has
been
working
really
well.
F
But
there
are
some
new
proposals
in
the
adjustment
to
base
that
are
of
significant
community
interest
that
I
felt
merited
and
outreached
the
public
on,
and
so
I
put
that
out
there
with
that
request
and
since
then
have
been
thinking
about
the
matter
and
had
some
discussions
with
some
other
folks
and
kind
of
honed
in
on
my
thinking.
Regarding
that.
So,
specifically,
the
the
the
adjustment
to
base.
F
It
has
a
lot
of
routine
changes
and
some
some
great
changes
and
then
some
some
things
that
we
already
talked
about
at
a
study
session
regarding
kind
of
how
to
work
with
encampments
in
our
community
and
other
ways
of
kind
of
improving
the
public
experience
in
public
spaces
and
and
how
to
improve
that
experience
so
and
it
as
I
thought
it
through
that
most
of
those
things
have
garnered
wide
community
support.
So,
for
example,
the
downtown
ambassador
program
proposal,
everybody
seems
to
think,
is
a
good
idea.
F
Similarly,
the
park
ranger
issue
are
the
new
urban
park
rangers
or
restoration
of
those
people
generally
think
those
are
a
good
idea.
The
one
area
that
has
been
controversial,
I
think,
is
the
additional
funding
for
six
additional
police
officers
to
be
added
to
the
police
force
and
there
have
been
some
strong
opinions
from
the
community
on
in
a
lot
of
different
sides,
different
perspectives
on
that
matter,
and
so
that's
the
item
that
really
had
the
the
strong
community
interest
and
so
that
that
was
my.
F
You
know
effectively
my
primary
reason
for
requesting
that
be
a
public
hearing.
So
here's
what
I'd
like
to
to
bring
forward
to
council,
because
I've
heard
from
some
of
my
colleagues
that
maybe
public
hearing
isn't
necessary
or
desirable.
F
We
did
when
we
worked
on
this
issue.
At
the
study
session,
we
heard
from
the
police
department
that
they
have
a
significant
deficit
in
the
number
of
officers
on
their
force
right
now,
they're
allowed
to
have
they
have
an
approved
amount
of
184
sworn
officers,
and
I
think
that,
depending
on
how
you
count
who's
in
the
pipeline
or
who
they
still
need
to
hire
there
they're
down
more
than
20
on
that
number
and
have
some
significant
hiring
left
to
do,
which
will
take
some
time
and
I
reached
out
to
chief
feral
today.
F
F
She
thought
that
she
might
be
able
to
hire
up
to
that
190
level,
but
that
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
work
to
to
do
the
hiring,
and
it
will
take
some
time
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
184
190
level.
So
here's
my
proposal
that
I
don't
believe
that
it
is
necessary
at
this
time
to
add
the
additional
police
funding
in
this
adjustment
to
base
because
of
the
additional
hiring
that
needs
to
happen
already
for
the
police
department.
F
So
my
proposal
would
be
to
not
include
that
additional
police
funding
in
this
adjustment
to
base
instead,
you
recapture
those
funds
for
additional
restoration
of
services
in
some
of
the
areas.
You
know
it's
not
a
huge
amount
of
money
in
the
next
few
months,
but
some
amount
of
money
to
maybe
restore
some
parks
and
rec
services
or
help
the
planning
department
get
back
up
to
speed
or
human
services
funding,
etc.
F
And
so
what
I'd
like
to
hear
from
council
about
is?
Would
people
be
amenable
to
removing
that
from
this
adjustment
to
base
and
saying
that
if
the
police
department
is
able
to
hire
up
to
their
184
level
and
and
wants
to
come
back
for
a
request
for
funding
up
to
the
190
level?
You
know,
while
being
able
to
state
how
things
are
working
and
how
that
would
be
very
helpful
that
they
could
come
back
in
a
future
adjustment
to
base
or
other
budget
cycle
with
that
request.
F
So
so
my
proposal
today
is
to
remove
that
from
the
adjustment
to
base
today,
if
possible
and
and
then
move
forward
with
the
rest
of
the
adjustment
to
base
on
the
regular
schedule,
and
then
let
the
police
department
come
back
with
an
additional
request.
If
that
it
is
necessary
at
a
future
time.
So,
thanks
for
bearing
with
me
through
that
explanation
and
like
to
hear
from
my
colleagues.
A
Super
thanks,
aaron
yeah,
we'll
just
go
with
colleagues,
I'd
like
to
turn
to
staff
at
some
point,
but
let's
start
with
council
questions
or
comments.
Bob.
E
My
my
question:
thank
you
aaron
for
that
proposal.
I
think
it's
an
intriguing
proposal
and
worth
considering
my
question
really
is
for
staff
sam.
If
that's
okay,
sure,
okay,
I
don't
know
if
chief
harold
is
on
or
somebody
from
the
police
department.
AF
M
E
Oh
hi
chief,
how
are
you
I'm
so
chief
considering
aaron's
proposal?
Would
you
if
we
were
to
pass
as
aaron
suggested
right
now?
We
we
would
do
all
the
things
we
talked
in
april
27,
except
for
making
the
budget
adjustment
now.
Would
you
still
be
able
to
redeploy
the
six
police
officers
that
you've
talked
about?
I
think
I
think
you
shared
with
us
that
you
would
redeploy
six
existing
officers
to
some
problem
areas.
We
have
particularly
downtown
and
civic
area
and
on
the
hill.
E
Would
you
still
be
able
to
do
that
subject
to
er
and
suggestion
that
we
could
revisit
the
the
budget
question.
AF
No
sir,
I
would
not,
unless
I
took
resources
from
other
departments.
Like
I
talked
about
on
april
27th,
I
I
think
that
the
main
point
is
historically,
the
police
were
never
had
the
expectation
to
clean
encampments
or
post
or
provide
safety.
AF
I
would
have
to
take
an
entire
unit
out
of
the
police
department
to
be
able
to
provide
that
level
of
service,
so
I
would
either
have
to
take
my
traffic
section
away,
which
currently
is
nine
officers,
or
I
would
have
to
take
my
university
hill
impact
team,
which
includes
the
downtown
group,
the
university
hill
group,
the
san
juan
group,
and
so
you
know
it's
really
priorities.
AF
It
would
come
down
to
priorities,
but
I
could
not
provide
that
level
of
service
and
protection
and
safety
and
posting
and
cleaning
the
encampments
for
that
level
of
service
with
what
we
have
now
and
it
would
take
a
massive
hiring
spree
like
we
discussed
on
april
27.
To
make
this
happen
and
to
do
it
the
right
way
to
do
it
compassionately
and
make
sure
everybody
is
safe
and
then
also
to
support
the
ambassadors
and
the
new
park
rangers
for
the
first
year
or
the
18
months.
Pilot
project.
E
E
You
were
going
to
redeploy
six
officers
existing
officers
to
these
these
problem
areas
and
then
effectively
backfill
for
them
by
increasing
your
budgeted
head
count
from
184
to
190,
and
I
know
that
you're
you're
down
significantly
from
the
184
but
you're
working
real
hard
to
hire
up
to
that
point
and
maybe
ultimately
to
the
190.
E
were
the
were
the
next
six
officers
that
or
some
group
of
the
next
officers
you
hire
going
to
backfield
for
those
six,
I'm
trying
to
understand
if
they
were
to
be
the
last
six
or
the
next
six
or
some
middle
sex.
How
that
was
going
to
work.
AF
So
they
will
to
provide
some
level
of
service
to
support
parks
and
rec
the
downtown
ambassadors.
I
would
need
to
take
six
officers
that
I
can
train
up
within
the
next
month.
Like
we
discussed
last
time.
They're
gonna
need
legal
training,
they're
gonna
need
more
icat
use
of
force,
training,
they're
gonna
need
more
tactical
training,
they're
gonna
need
more
legal
training,
and
so
I
would
take
six
of
my
veteran
officers
from
different
locations
within
the
police
department
and
backfill
that
with
hires
that
we'll
be
having
coming
out
of
the
academy.
AF
So
I
have
people
coming
out
of
academies
that
by
mid-summer
I'll
be
able
to
backfill,
and
then
we've
been
working
hard
by
contacting
police
academies
across
the
state
to
provide
to
get
people
in
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
then
it
is
my
desire
and
hope
that
we
are
able
to
hire
lateral
transfers,
which
only
take
you
know,
six
to
eight
weeks
to
get
up
and
running
with
our
field
training
officer
program
and
those
are
officers
that
already
have
post
certifications
in
colorado
so
that
that
is
the
plan
and
when
you
think
about
staffing,
to
do
this
right.
AF
J
So
yeah,
I
have
a
quick
question
for
the
chief
just
to
understand
the
timeline,
so
I'm
understanding
how
you
would
take
more
experienced
officers
from
some
sections
and
redeploy
them
into
helping
with
the
encampments
and
the
ambassadors
and
the
cleanups,
and
then
you
would
then
replace
those
redeployed
more
experienced
officers
with
the
recent
hires.
J
AF
Well,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
successful,
I
hire
all
everything
that
we
have
open
right
now
in
the
next
hiring
phase
which
we
have
going
on
right
now.
So
I
would
need
the
funding
right
now
to
offer
people
positions
in
academies
and
offer
lateral
transfers
now
and
that's
the
problematic
part
of
hiring
in
police
departments.
AF
AF
I
would
hope
to
reach
the
190
as
quickly
as
possible
is
as
fast
as
and
it
comes
down
to
doing
a
really
solid,
recruiting
and
background
check
on
everybody.
But
if
I
I'm
dedicating
a
tremendous
amount
of
resources
to
get
these
people
up
and
running
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
what
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
is
I'm
losing
people
at
the
same
time,
I'm
trying
to
bring
people
in
so
again.
The
important
thing
is
right
now
is
to
really
target
for
200.
A
Thanks
mary
adam
and
then
rachel
adam.
AG
Yeah,
I'm
not
gonna
try
to
relitigate
the
vote
because
that
happened,
but
I
am
still
a
little
confused
on
the
timing,
just
because
I
don't
know
many
departments
that
we
try
to
pre-fill
or
have
a
hiring
system.
That
goes
above
what
we're
actually
trying
to
fill.
You
know
if
we're
having
a
problem
of
hitting
our
cap.
AG
That's
when
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
talk
about
budget
expansion,
especially
when
we
have
so
many
services
that
aren't
currently
being
provided
that
we
normally
do
so.
If
that
were
a
problem,
we
were
running
into
where
we
needed
more
officers,
because
we
had
hired
as
many
as
we're
already
allotted.
AG
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
but
until
that
point
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
it
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense
to
put
budget
somewhere
where
it's
maybe
going
to
be
spent,
especially
when
we
have
a
second
adjustment
to
base
in
a
matter
of
months
where
we
could
approve
that
again
and,
as
chief
said,
the
hiring
is
not
going
to
close
until
it
is
full.
AG
So
it
seems
like
we
have
multiple
bites
at
this
apple,
but
why
would
we
spend
the
money
or
a
lot
the
money
when
it
could
be
allotted
elsewhere?
Why
not
wait
a
little
bit
in
my
mind.
A
Thanks
adam,
do
you
have
a
response
to
that
chief.
AF
The
only
response
I
have
is,
if
I
don't
start
hiring
now,
we're
talking
another,
it
just
pushes
the
hiring
process
back
and
back
and
back
so
you
know
it
is
standard
practice
and
policing
is
to
have
a
target
over
your
number,
knowing
that
you're
losing
people
that
it's
just
a
standard
practice
to
to
ensure
that
you
are
always
at
least
keeping
your
policing
levels
consistent,
and
that,
unfortunately,
does
not.
AE
I'm
without
him,
I
also
don't
want
to
relitigate
and
and
understand
that
the
complicated
hiring
dynamics
here
it
does
sound
a
bit
like
we're
in
like
quicksand
where
we
are
losing
faster
than
we
can
hire
replacements.
So
I
do
wonder
about
this
kind
of
pre-hiring
and
not
waiting
to
see
when
we
get
to
184,
but
we
already
litigated
that
at
april
27th
so
understood
that
I
wasn't
on
the
on
the
kind
of
winning
side
of
that
argument.
AE
But
overall,
I
guess
in
terms
of
of
aaron's
initial
request,
to
have
a
public
hearing.
I
don't
know
that
during
my
tenure
on
council,
we've
had
a
public
hearing
on
either
homelessness
or
policing
and
those
are
obviously
both
areas
of
intense
public
interest.
AE
So
I
think
you
know
we
we
haven't
voted
on
this,
yet
my
my
experience
has
been
that
we've
we
have
a
vote
on
something
that
has
significant
public
interest.
We
have
a
public
hearing
on
it,
so
it
seems
like
we
would
need
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
this
either
in
in
two
weeks.
AE
If
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
it
or
maybe
when
we
do
the
second
adjustment
to
base
if
we
are
waiting,
but
I
I
think
it's
very
clear,
based
on
open
comments
and
emails,
that
this
is
an
area
of
intense
public
interest,
and
that
seems
to
be
when
we
hold
public
hearings.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
why
we
wouldn't
for
this
thanks.
K
Mark
yeah
I'm
reluctant
to
put
the
chief
in
the
position
of
having
to
rob
peter,
to
pay
paul
and
to
strip
down
already
undermanned
departments
in
order
to
achieve
the
six
officer
compliment
that
she
envisions
for
the
homelessness
issue.
So
I
I
would
not
wait
until
the
second
adjustment
to
base.
I
would
prove
this
now
and
give
her
the
resources
that
I
think
she
requires
in
order
to
carry
out
the
policies
that
that
we
have
approved,
and
you
know
that's
just
my
view.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
something
that
adam
said
that
he
said
he's
not
aware
of
any
other
departments
that
do
this.
So
my
question
is:
is
this
something
that
is
specific
to
how
police
departments
operate
or
are
there
other
departments
that
do
this?
And
what
is
the
characteristic
of
police
departments
that
they
have
to
hire
in
this
manner
versus
other
departments.
AF
That
was
for
adam
mary.
That's
a
great
question.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
standard
practice
in
other
other
city
departments.
I
can
tell
you
in
policing
throughout
my
almost
30-year
career.
This
has
always
been
problematic
and
especially
problematic.
AF
Right
now,
with
the
national
policing
crisis
and
the
king
supers
incident,
people
are
just
deciding
not
to
retire
from
the
police
department
to
resign
from
the
police
department,
and
so
we
are,
we
are
losing
people
and
there's
you
know
we
retirements
and
resignations,
but
this,
for
my
entire
career
has
always
been
problematic,
is
to
keep
your
staffing
levels
up
to
what
your
compliment
is.
It
has
always
been
hard
to
keep
officers.
AF
AF
I
would
have
to
take
another
unit
out
of
service
to
make
that
happen
on
a
consistent
basis,
and
I
am
trying
to
hire
you
know
as
quickly,
but
also
due
diligence,
because
these
are
important
positions
for
the
community
and
to
do
that
right
as
well.
But
we
will
be
in
a
hiring
cycle
to
keep
these
numbers
up.
A
G
I
I'll
defer
to
chris
if
he
has
additional
information,
but
I
know
just
from
experience
that
other
departments,
like
fire
departments,
generally
have
this
issue
and
they
over
hire
because
of
their
academies.
I've
been
in
other
cities
where
traffic
management
is
in
the
similar
case.
I
believe
that
boulder
fire
does
that
as
well,
but
perhaps
chris
has
more
detail.
AC
Nuri
is
correct
and
it
it's
there's
a
couple
of
pieces.
The
first
is
especially
with
fire
and
police
departments
where
you
have
the
applicants
or
the
the
new
staff
going
through
an
academy
process.
There
are
some
that,
through
that
academy
process
will
drop
out
and
so
a
lot
of
times,
especially
like
with
fire
and
then
as
maris,
described
with
police.
AC
There
are
multiple
academies
and
you
can
you
can
draw
from
those
there's
other
times
where
if
we
know
that
there
is
a
planned
retirement,
say
of
a
staff
member
we'll
do
what
we
call
an
overhire,
which
is
essentially
hire
that
person's
replacement
before
that
person
has
officially
retired
for
a
short
overlap
period.
And
so
that's
the
other
thing
that
will
occur.
Sometimes
in
departments
is
there'll,
be
a
short
period
of
an
over
higher
just
to
ensure
smooth
transitions.
A
Thank
you,
aaron.
F
Well
and
chris
just
developed
on
that,
I
mean
that
that
kind
of
over
higher
is
something
that
the
departments
can
just
do
right
I
mean
you,
don't
need
special
dispensation
or
budget
in
order
to
have
some
overlap
like
that
to
you.
AC
F
A
Okay,
so
I
want
to
remind
us
that
any
council
person
has
the
ability
to
cause
this
to
become
a
public
hearing
on
june
1st.
So
we
don't
have
a
vote
here
and
we
don't
have.
You
know
approval
so
rachel
to
your
point.
Should
you
want
a
public
hearing?
You
could
cause
one
to
happen.
Aaron,
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
you.
This
is
your
item.
Do
you
have
a
suggestion
you'd
like
us
to
move
forward
with
hearing
what
you've
heard
so
far.
F
Yeah
well
chief
held,
I
mean
I
thank
you
for
that
perspective,
and-
and
I
appreciate
it,
and
I
hear
that
your
your
hiring
as
as
fast
as
you
can,
which
is
good,
like
we
have
a
deficit
right.
That
needs
to
be
filled,
and
it
seems
like
the
you
know.
Some
amount
of
like
over
hiring
like
chris
was
talking
about
you
know
seems
like
a
very
reasonable
kind
of
thing
to
do.
I
I
just
did
I
still
my
fundamental
point.
F
I
feel
like
stands
and
we
have
we
have
so
many
departments
in
the
city
that
provide
important
services
to
the
community
that
have
been
cut
deep
over
the
last
year
or
so,
and
so
I
I
still
would
would
like
to
you
know,
give
you
the
chance
to
to
staff
up
to
that
184
level
and
and
and
look
at
how
we
can
spend
a
little
bit
more
money
on
restoring
some
of
the
other
services
we've
lost
in
the
community,
so
sam.
A
Okay,
so
what
I'm
gonna
suggest
is
that
you
make
that
into
a
motion
and
that
you
don't
do
it
at
this
very
moment,
because
we
have
a
couple
other
consent
things
to
talk
through,
but
by
the
time
we
are
done
with
the
consent.
I
think
we
maybe
somebody
should
move
the
consent
with
all
uncontroversial
things,
and
then
we
have
a
vote
on
on
whatever
your
motion
is
at
that
point,
does
that
sound
fair.
A
Okay-
and
I
I
have
a
question
that
I
want
to
ask
staff
before
we
go
on
and
I'll
direct
this
to
you
chris
and
then
others
can
follow
up,
but
chris
I
heard
from
staff.
I
think
you
in
fact
that
there
was
threats
made
to
park
staff
today
who
were
giving
notice
and
encampment.
Could
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
information
about
that
yeah
or
ally
either
one
yeah.
AH
Sure
I'll
just
share
that
it
had
nothing
to
do
with
encampments.
The
employee
was
mowing
in
a
park
near
the
adjacent
civic
area
and
was
threatened
with
a
metal
pipe
and
some
pretty
awful
words.
A
Okay,
very
good-
I
just
wanted
chris
had
texted
me
about
that.
So
I
just
wanted
more
details.
A
This
wouldn't
have
been
anything
related
to
that,
wouldn't
normally
have
been
a
police
presence
with
what
that
staff
person
was
doing.
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
yeah,
okay,
very
good,
so
aaron
you
have
it
to
do
by
the
time
we're
done
with
the
consent.
Then
we
will
deal
with
the
specifics
at
that
point
with
that.
A
AI
I'm
ready
all
right
so
good
evening,
so,
as
you
described,
the
item
tonight
is
a
continuation
of
a
discussion
regarding
an
application
for
a
non-conforming
use,
review
to
renovate
the
historic
structure
and
convert
the
boarding
house
to
16
dwelling
units
ryan
or
emily.
Is
there
a
powerpoint
there?
We
go.
AI
AI
Council
closed
the
public
hearing
and
continued
discussion
to
the
meeting
tonight
to
allow
staff
to
draft
conditions,
as
was
directed
planning
staff,
has
been
working
with
the
city
attorneys
to
prepare
the
conditions
and
modifications
which
were
forwarded
in
the
memo.
Those
were
also
reviewed
with
the
applicant
and
their
legal
representation,
and
they
have
agreed
to
the
changes.
So
I'm
just
going
to
talk
quickly
through
the
modifications
that
were
made
since
the
last
hearing.
AI
Maybe
go
back
all
right.
Well,
the
first
one
is
the
quiet
hours,
so
the
modification
is
intended
to
address
concerns
regarding
noise
impacts
and
general
disruptions
to
the
neighbors.
So
the
duration
of
quiet
hours
have
been
extended
to
8
p.m,
until
8
a.m.
7
days
a
week.
AI
The
next
condition
is
regarding
marketing
materials,
which
has
been
modified
to
indicate
all
forms
of
payment
are
acceptable,
including
section
8
vouchers.
AI
AI
So
some
additional
clarification
was
provided
around
the
on-site
management,
which
would
be
required
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
the
parking
permits
and
how
that
would
interact
with
the
neighborhood
parking
program
and
with
staff
or
with
that
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
case.
With
the
motion
provided
in
the
memo
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
As
always,.
K
Yeah,
did
I
correctly
read
it
that
the
the
applicant
is
only
going
to
be
required
for
three
years
to
report
on
on
its
compliance
with
the
good
neighbor
agreement,
or
a
million
error.
AI
That's
correct:
that
was
what
staff
heard
in
the
last
hearing
was
that
it
would
be
for
three
years.
B
J
AI
I'm
not
sure
I
can
comment
on
the
likelihood.
I
could
say
that
it
from
what
was
shown
that
that
would
be
a
violation
of
their
approval.
If
at
12
30
at
night
there
was
amplified
music
and
yelling
and
so
forth.
J
And
then
so
that
would
be
a
violation
and
then
it
would
go
to
that
address
and
and
and
so
that
would
also
be
a
case
where
there's
the
24
7
on-site
management,
so
presumably
the
management
would
step
in
prior
to
that
it
and
that's
the
intent
of
that
so,
okay,
thank
you.
AJ
AE
Guess
I'll
see
him,
I
I
can't
get
my
raised
hand
button
up
either
right
now
it
was
working
right
now,
it's
it's
not
and
you
know.
Obviously
we
don't
have
a
decibel
reader
on
that
video,
but
maybe
to
tom
like
to
me
that
already
looks
like
it
would
violate
our
city.
Noise
ordinance.
Is
that
so
I
guess
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
as
to
how
this
will
make
this
better
for
the
hill.
AE
AK
A
So
so
tom
I'll
call
aqui
on
that.
If
this
quiet
hours
condition
is
in
place
and
something
like
that
occurs
where
police
are
called
for
midnight,
noise
violation
and
it's
clear
that
two
things
happen,
there
was
the
noise
violation
that
the
police
can
intervene
on
and
there
was
the
violation
of
the
conditions.
A
AK
Well,
sam,
I
believe
the
law
is
that
someone
can
file
a
complaint
with
the
planning
board
and
the
planning
board
can
issue
a
sanction,
including
prohibiting
occupancy.
A
Got
it
so
it
is
a
pretty
severe
list
of
consequences
that
could
be
levied
if
this
is
an
ongoing
problem,
yeah.
AM
J
Yeah
so
miramai's
comments
raised
a
question
for
me
and
if
the
I
guess
the
question
is,
is
there
criteria
clear
criteria
as
to
how
the
planning
board
would
make
a
judgment
on
such
a
complaint?.
A
J
And
so
there's
no
subjectivity
a
party
is
being
held
between
8
p.m
and
8
a.m,
and
that
would
be
a
violation.
AK
A
AG
In
mary's
first
comment:
she
said
something
about
24
7
on-site
presence
and
that's
not
the
case.
If
I
remember
correctly
right.
AK
Well,
there
is
that
language
about
24,
7.,
condition,
d
at
least
one
on-site
manager
shall
be
present
on
the
property
generally
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
when
tenants
are
residing
on
the
property.
K
Yeah,
I
want
to
first
acknowledge
that
the
new
conditions
for
the
good
neighbor
agreement
do
improve
it
considerably.
However,
I
still
have
a
number
of
reservations
about
this
transaction.
K
First,
you
know
quiet
hours
are
only
going
to
be
effective
to
the
extent
that
they're
enforced
and
I'm
not
sure
why
this
set
of
undertakings
is
going
to
be
more
enforceable
than
our
previous
efforts
to
control
noise,
trash
and
poor
behaviors.
K
I
am
not
assured,
given
our
history
of
not
rigorously
enforcing
restrictions
on
these
kinds
of
behaviors,
that
this
gna
will
be
any
more
enforceable
simply
by
imposing
penalties
on
the
applicant
number
two.
I
don't
understand
why
the
reporting
requirement
expires
in
three
years.
K
It
seems
to
me
at
thirteen
hundred
dollars
per
bedroom
as
a
rough
number,
the
applicant
will
be
receiving
rental
income
of
sixty
two
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
a
month
at
that
level.
I
don't
think
it's
unduly
burdensome
to
require
an
annual
report
going
forward.
K
I
I
would
ask
that
neighbors
should
at
least
have
the
minimal
security
of
an
annual
report
and
again,
to
the
extent
that
we've
required
on-site
management,
I'm
a
bit
encouraged
by
that
and,
lastly,
I'm
afraid
that
then,
in
going
down
this
path,
we've
once
again
abandoned
the
hill
community
and
take
in
an
expedient
road,
despite
our
continual
lip
service
that
we
offer
them.
You
know
again:
we've
communicated
the
message
that
this
community
is
on
its
own
and
the
next
time
a
developer
offers
to
buy
their
property.
K
AE
Thanks
to
sloan
for
the
option
y
to
get
my
andres
to
work,
so
I'm
gonna
agree
a
little
bit
with
mark
and
then
disagree
a
bit
with
mark.
I
agree
that
it,
it
does
feel
like
we
are
giving
paying
lip
service
to
the
hill.
You
know
we
did
an
out
of
five
and
and
said
that
we're
gonna,
you
know
kind
of
send
some
help
in
the
cavalry
and
we're
still
getting.
AE
You
know,
they're
still
putting
up
with
constant
noise
issues
and-
and
you
know,
quality
of
life
issues
there
and-
and
I
can
understand
why
they
feel
abandoned.
So
I
agree
with
that
and
hope
that
we
will
bear
that
in
mind
when
we're
looking
at
things
like
the
budget,
because
we
need
to
to
budget
some
code
enforcement
and
help
there,
but
on
this
particular
property
it
sort
of
feels
like
we
would
be
trying
to
sort
of
hold
one
property
owner
for
what
ails
the
whole
hill.
AE
So
I
would
like
to
see
you
know,
sort
of
the
the
fixes
that
we're
trying
to
come
up
with
for
this
property,
applied
more
broadly
to
the
hill
and
put
our
time
into
that
issue
and
and
broader
solutions
than
what
one
property
can
can
hope
to
accomplish.
And
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
these
agreements
sound
like
they've.
They
have
been,
I
think,
approved
by
the
property
owner
and
that's
great
and
should
be
a
helpful
model,
but
I
don't
want
to
conflate
sort
of
the
hill
issues
with
this
one
property.
A
AK
No
I'd
want
to
make
sure
that
you
to
just
give
the
applicant
an
opportunity
to
object
to
assume
the
applicant
has
somebody
on
the
phone
that
they
could
call
they
could
speak
to,
but
you
could
do
that.
That
was
a,
I
think,
a
specific
one
from
council.
I
had
missed
that
and
wrote
it
originally
is
every
year
and
then
sloan
caught
it
and
fixed
it.
Based
on
what
council
said,
so
we
were
just
following
council
direction.
Yes,
yes,.
E
Just
two
things:
I
I
if
mary's
proposal
was
to
make
it
beyond
three
years.
I'd
be
fine
with
that
too.
I
think
I
was
the
person
who
suggested
three
years,
but
I
just
pulled
it
out
of
the
air.
You
know
if,
if
that's
the
will
of
council,
I
think
perpetual
annual
reporting
would
be
just
fine,
and
then
I
just
I
couldn't.
I
can't
pass
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
rachel
calling
the
calvary.
E
AO
J
On
that
sure,
because
I
actually
had
a
question
about
that
rachel
mentioned,
we
need
code
enforcement
in
the
area
and
is
it
code
enforcement
or
is
it
police
enforcement?
That's.
AE
Required
well,
if
that
is
to
me,
I
will
say
it's
to
staff.
Actually,
okay,.
AK
Code
enforcement
is
actually
part
of
the
police
department.
Although
there's
a
separate
zone
in
court
enforcement,
I
think
mary
could
answer
you
from
my
view.
We
need
both
the
police
handle
some
things.
Other
things
like
trash
and
snow
removal
and
stuff
is
code
enforcement,
but
I
of
course
defer
to
marist.
That's
why
we're
being
quiet.
AF
Thanks
tom,
but
I
would
agree
with
your
assessment:
it
we
need
both
and
rachel.
The
the
issues
on
the
hill
are
very
complicated
too,
and
unfortunately,
that
requires
police
intervention
as
well
as
code
and
some
type
of
abatement
process
as
well.
AE
So
I'll
just
I
guess,
ask
because
then
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
on
what
we're
being
asked
for
it.
My
understanding
with
the
six
additional
police
officers
is,
it
is,
you
know,
specific
to
homelessness
solutions
and
not
things
like
parties
on
the
hill
at
night,
so
that
that's
that
feels
different
than
what
we
have
discussed.
So
I'm
just
hoping
to
get
some
clarification
to
bob's
point.
If
we're
just
gonna
keep
going
back
and
forth,
we
can.
AF
So,
as
I
presented
on
427,
I
saw
this
team
as
multi-faceted
multi-dimensional
heavy
emphasis
on
assisting
with
the
process
of
the
encampment
posting
the
encampment
cleanup,
providing
safety
supporting
the
new
ambassador
program,
because
that
will
be
vitally
important
for
their
success.
I've
been
I've
done
this
in
cincinnati.
AF
If
they
don't
have
proper
police
support,
that'll
be
complicated
and
then,
as
I
discussed,
I
thought
I
would
try
to
reinforce
our
low
numbers
on
our
impact
team
on
the
hill
and
also
try
to
impact
our
san
juan
community,
which
I
feel
is
very
neglected
due
to
the
lowering
of
the
numbers
over
the
past
two
years
in
that
specific
neighborhood,
and
so
I
kind
of
saw
this
as
a
multi-functional,
multi-dimensional
team
of
officers
that
would
be
highly
trained
in
those
areas
that
we
discussed
on
the
27th.
AM
So
I
would
just
say
that
I
would
support
the
continuation
of
an
annual
meeting
for
the
neighbors
if
this
passes,
which
it
looks
like
it
will,
and
just
to
kind
of
state
that,
yes,
we
had
promised
to
send
the
cavalry
in
and
by
allowing
this
property
to
move
in
we're
just
extending
the
border
of
the
problem
area
and
though
I
hope
the
good
neighbor
agreements
and
the
guard
rails
that
we've
put
in
work,
but
seeing
as
there
are
so
many
completes,
so
many
police
complaints
still
continuing
and
the
parties
happening
as
we
saw,
I
don't
have
high
hopes.
AM
I
think
that,
as
we
continue
to
allow
each
little
bit,
it
has
a
massive
impact
and
the
noise
just
moves
further
and
further
into
these
quiet
neighborhoods
that,
as
many
of
these
residents
have
stated
themselves
they're,
not
entitled
nimbys,
they
work
hard
for
what
they've
purchased
and
and
what
we're
doing
is
just
it's.
It's
just
unreal
to
me
that
we're
not
listening
to
our
residents.
AM
I
I
mean
we're
getting
lambasted
for
the
homeless
issue,
so
maybe,
but
that
one's
so
split
on
half
and
half,
but
this
is
very
very
clear
that
the
neighborhood
does
not
support
this
and
those
are
who
vote
for
us
and
those
are
who
who
pay
taxes
to
this
town,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
I
think
this
is
extremely
unfortunate.
A
Okay,
so
what
I've
heard
so
far
is
either
people
don't
like
this
at
all
or
they
like
the
conditions,
with
the
possible
exception
of
extending
the
annual
reporting
requirement
indefinitely
tom.
Do
you
want
to
see
if
there's
any
response
from
the
applicant
on
that
potential
change.
C
C
A
Mr
johnson,
we
can
see
you
good
evening,
mayor
council.
The
applicant
is
not
opposed
to
the
continual
annual
reporting
requirement.
Thank
you.
That's
excellent,
chris
answer.
So
with
that
we
have
the
applicant
agrees
and
tom,
would
you
be
able
to
include
that
tonight
just
by
a
deletion
of
a
few
words,
or
would
we
want
to
bring
it
back?
On
june
1st.
AK
J
Yeah
I
have
another
question
for
tom:
is
there
any
reason
why
we
could
not
put
a
limit
on
the
number
of
violations
that
could
occur
at
the
address
and
and
in
addition,
say
that
if
you
have
more
than
this
number
of
violations,
something
really
egregious
happens,
which
could
be
something
like
losing
your
rental
license?
I
don't
know,
but
is
there
any
reason?
Could
we
do
something
like
that.
AK
You
you
could,
I'm
not
sure
we
could
do
that,
drive
something
like
that
tonight.
The
the
one
of
the
remedies
that
the
planning
board
can
impose
is
revoking
a
rental
license.
AK
So
that's
already
a
possibility
that
there's
a
whole
list
of
remedies
and
david
was
kind
enough
to
pull
up
the
section
that
says
the
planning
board
reviews
these
complaints,
so
they
have
already
have
that
in
there.
What
you'd
be
suggesting,
I
guess,
is
some
objective
measure
to
direct
the
planning
board
and
if
you
wanted
to
do
that,
you
could
I
I'm
not
sure
I'm
not
all
that
comfortable
with
drafting
it
on
the
fly.
AK
Well,
mary:
there
are
some
objective
criteria
already
in
the
conditions.
For
example,
the
quiet
hours
are
violated,
as
anybody
has
amplified
sound
outdoors
so
that
that
that
to
me
is
an
objective
criteria,
so
there
aren't
a
lot
of
them,
but
there
are
those
things
that
that
are
either
sure
they're
false,
and
I
think
what
would
assess
whether
there
was
a
violation
then
have
to
decide
what
the
penalty
was
and
to
answer
sam's
original
question.
There
is
no
call-up
provision
for
counsel
from
a
planning
board
hearing
on
a
violation.
AK
AE
And
I'm
just
thinking
more
broadly
is
that
something
that
we
could
have
in
an
ordinance
that
you
know
any
property
owner
or
any
property
that
has
x
number
of
noise
ordinance
violations
and
x
amount
of
time
loses
their
rental
license
as
we're
looking
at
at
hill
issues.
Broadly.
AK
AK
No,
and
we
already
have
a
provision
for
revoking
rental
licenses-
I
I
believe
both
basically
for
violating
the
conditions
of
the
license
and
there
may
be
something
on
occupancy
as
well.
If
I'm
gonna
remember
it
correctly,
but
yes,
that's
something
you
could
do.
A
Okay,
I'll
just
speak
for
myself.
I
think
these
are
pretty
good
conditions.
I
would
propose
that
we
put
a
10-year
limit
on
the
annual
reporting
for
tom's
suggestion,
because
I,
I
think
that
having
it
be
infinite
is
doesn't
make
sense.
Things
could
change
in
a
lot
of
different
ways
and
mary,
I
guess,
might
discomfort
with
having
something.
That's
like
a
criteria-based
kind
of
harsh
penalty
for
a
certain
number
of
violations
is,
it
does
not
allow
for
mitigating
circumstances,
whatever
they
might
be
say.
A
Somebody
else
put
amplified
music
and
did
a
pop-up
or
something
like
that.
Is
it
the
fault
of
the
the
property
operator
that
that
happened.
So
I
I
guess,
I'm
just
a
little
concerned
we've
seen
in
the
past
historically
that
strict
guidelines
around
sentencing
can
have
unintended
consequences
and
I'm
just
a
little
nervous
about
that,
but
I
would
suggest
just
to
put
it
to
bed
that
we
put
ten
years
tom
instead
of
three
and
I'll
see
what
other
council
members
have
to
say
to
that
mark.
K
K
AK
AK
K
Okay
and
again
going
back
to
mary's
comments,
I
think,
having
standards
matters
if
it
becomes
purely
a
judgment,
call
you
don't
really
have
much
if
you've
got
a
standard
based
agreement
in
which
a
certain
number
of
violations.
K
Carries
with
its
serious
consequences,
I
think
that
would
be
if
not
entirely
satisfactory
to
the
community
would
certainly
be
somewhat
reassuring
to
the
community,
and
I
think
it
would
give
some
teeth
to
what
we
are
negotiating
with
with
the
applicant.
And
so
I
would
be
very
supportive
of
anything
along
those
lines,
and
I
urge
us
to
do
that,
thereby.
AM
I'll,
just
second,
what
mary's
idea
and
what
mark
just
said
regarding
that.
I
think
something
that
has
teeth
would
go
a
long
way
in
making
this
more
palatable
for
the
neighborhood.
I
hope
and
then
just
regarding
what
you
stated
sam
about
the
10-year
sunset
on
on
the
annual
meeting.
What
I
would
like
to
do
instead
is
to
see
what
happens
in
10
years
so
on
the
10th
year.
AM
If
this
goes
through
that
the
neighbors
voice,
whether
or
not
they
would
like
to
continue
having
this,
if
it's
been
useful
or
if
they
feel
like
things,
have
been
fine,
they
can
let
it
go.
I
think
that
it
should
be
assessed
at
10
years,
rather
than
just
saying
no,
because
what,
if
it's
been
10
years
of
turmoil
and
all
of
a
sudden
now
they
have
absolutely
no
voice
other
than
if
the
laws
are
broken
and
they
have
to
go
to
planning
board.
E
You
know
going
back
to
the
the
point
of
the
criteria.
I
I
think
where
sam
and
rachel
are
I'm,
I
I
think
we
should
have
some
criteria
just
city-wide,
and
so
we
don't
so
that
we
don't
fall
into
a
trap
of
of
being
accused
of
being
subjective.
I'm
not
sure
that
doing
it
on
one
property
makes
sense
number
one.
It
seems
a
little
inequitable
to
that
particular
property
and
not
having
it
apply
to
all
the
other
properties
that
might
cause
problems.
E
So
I
I
think,
I'm
with
rachel
and
sam
to
say
I
I'd,
be
happy
to
revisit
our
noise
ordinance
and
consequences
of
that,
but
I
think
it
should
be
a
a
ordinance
in
in
city-wide,
rather
than
doing
it
on
a
property
by
property
basis,
and
I'm
happy
to
commit
to
have
that
taken
up
in
the
next
council.
If
that's
the
will
of
of
the
majority
of
that
next
council.
E
A
You
bob
I'm
going
to
try
and
bring
this
home
if
I
can
so
I'm
going
to
do
a
few
straw
polls
just
to
see
where
council
as
a
whole
is
at.
If
that's,
okay,
the
first
straw
poll
that
I
would
like
to
do
is
to
see
if
a
10-year
sunset
is
acceptable
to
folks
on
the
annual
reporting
requirement.
A
A
And
so
I
think
we
have
that
and
then
next
mary,
would
you
like
to
frame
up
a
question
for
a
straw
poll
about
your
idea
about
criteria?
Do
you
want
to
move
ahead
with
that.
J
Well,
it
sounds
like,
and
I
I
agree
that
it
needs
to
be
city-wide
and
I'm
also
thinking
that
going
forward
as
part
of
the
initiative
for
bedrooms
that
maybe
it
could
be
addressed.
Then
the
change
in
the
ordinance.
But
I
do
feel
that
we
need
to
have
either
strengthen
the
objective
criterion
that
tom
mentioned
or
add
something
additional
and
I'm
not
coming
up
with
anything
on
the
fly
right
now.
But
but
if
we
could
add
something
to
that
criterion
where
it's
amplified
music
or.
J
Or
I'm
looking
for
ideas
here.
J
And
I
can
I
can
I
can
tee
it
up
with
just
yeah.
I
guess
I'm
withdrawing
my
suggestion
of
adding
the
the
other
criterion
on
the
number
of
violations.
A
AE
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something
that
bob
said.
I'm
sorry
that
I
don't
need
to
keep
going
back
and
forth,
but
mention
that
the
next
council
would
take
this
up
and
we
did
do
another
five,
I'm
getting
a
little
bit
out
of
you
know
out
of
the
quasi-judicial
area
here
again,
but
I
guess
I
would
just
push
back
a
little
bit
like.
Why
does
it
have
to
be
the
next
council
that
looks
at
that,
because
we
did
give
an
out
of
five
to
add
this
to
the
work
plan.
I
think
so.
A
Yeah
well
we'll
we
can
come
back
to
it,
but
probably
not
on
the
content
agenda.
So
so,
as
far
as
this
item
goes,
I
think
we're
teed
up
for
a
vote
when
we
do
vote
those
of
you
who
wish
to
vote
against.
It
can
say
yes
on
the
content
agenda,
except
for
the
items
you
do
not
want
to
pass.
A
AE
AE
Each
of
us
is
paired
with
another
council
member
for
the
interviews,
and
I
believe
everyone
already
has
their
time
slot
and
partner
lined
up,
and
I
think
we've
also
received
an
email
with
some
interview
materials
and
we
will
get
another
email,
probably
from
heather
gantz
the
day
before
we
have
interviews
part
of
the
materials
that
she
will
send
will
be
some
interview
questions,
but
the
subcommittee,
which
is
myself
and
council
member
yates,
are
asking
that
each
council
member
also
prepare
a
unique
question
that
you
will
ask
each
candidate
so
for
the
pairs
there
should
be.
AE
You
know,
between
between
the
two
of
us,
like
I'm
with
mark
wallach
I'll,
have
a
question
mark
will
have
a
question,
so
we
will
have
two
unique
questions
that
we
will
ask
each
candidate
and-
and
we
ask
that
you
ask
each
candidate
the
same
questions-
to
to
kind
of
keep
a
level
playing
field
for
so
that
they're
answering
the
same
questions
and
you're
asking
the
same
questions
to
each
candidate.
So
I
want
to
see
if
there's
any
questions
or
concerns
about
the
semi-finalist
interviews,
schedule
or
materials
or
questions
adam.
AE
F
Oh
sorry,
maybe
I'm
speaking
of
turn
just
remember,
there's
always
what's
your
favorite
color,
if
you're
really
stuck
but
sam,
do
we
need
to
amend
the
agenda
at
some
point
to
get
this
3-0
on
there?
I
don't
know
that
we
did
that
earlier.
A
D
That's
okay.
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
do
things
differently
tonight,
but.
A
So
I
apologize
it
was
entirely
on
me,
so
I
guess
I
will
look
for
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
add
item
1a,
which
we've
already
done
and
add
a
move
item
8a
to
the
consent
agenda
as
item
3o
and
update
the
title.
So
could
I
get
a
motion.
A
Any
opposed
none
thank
you
and
apologies
for
missing
that
thanks
aaron
for
flagging
it
and
okay,
and
with
that
it's
over
to
bob,
I
think.
E
Thanks
so
the
second
part
of
our
two-part
report
is
some
great
news.
We
have
received
a
a
confirmation
from
sandra
yanus
to
serve
as
our
interim
city
attorney.
E
You
all
know
that
tom
will
be
leaving
us
next
month
and
because
we
don't
know
how
long
it
will
take
us
to
get
through
the
interviewing
and
hiring
process
for
the
city
attorney,
we
wanted
to
ensure
no
gap
in
coverage,
and
so
sandra
has
been
with
has
been
a
lawyer
for
about
23
25
years,
he's
been
with
the
city
for
almost
all
that
time,
as
the
deputy
as
a
city
attorney
deputy
city
attorney
now
and
and
and
rachel,
and
I
and
jen
sprinkle
have
talked
to
her
and
and
agency
hr
director
and
sandra
seems
very
excited
about
doing
that.
E
Let
her
speak
for
herself
in
a
few
minutes,
so
we
wanted
to
make
a
motion
that
sandra
yanus
be
appointed
as
his
interim
city
attorney
effective
may
24th,
so
that
she
and
tom
can
have
a
period
of
overlap
before
tom's
departure
and
then
she'll
serve
in
that
role.
Until
until
we
have
a
city
attorney
permanent
city
attorney
hired,
and
so
that's
that's
why?
We
moved
this
up
to
the
consent
agenda,
so
we
could
make
that
motion.
A
Very
good,
thank
you.
Any
questions,
feedback
sondra,
I
see
you.
I
thought
I'd
turn
to
you
and
see
if
you
want
to
give
us
any
thoughts
about
the
possibility
of
us
voting
to
appoint
you
as
interim.
AP
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
make
some
comments.
I'm
I
would
be
happy
to
do
the
job
and
I
would
be
looking
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
and
so,
if
you
so
are
inclined
to
to
make
the
appointment,
then
I
will
happily
serve.
AE
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
to
sandra
for
being
willing
to
serve
in
this
capacity,
assuming
that
this
motion
passes
it,
it
really
makes,
I
think,
all
of
our
jobs
a
lot
easier,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
confidence
in
you
and
I'm
just
deeply
grateful.
So
thank
you.
A
AE
AE
It
looks
like
we
would
be
changing
to
or
expanding
where
you
cannot
drink
alcohol
like
on
open
space.
If
I'm
understanding
it
correctly,
so
I
just
wanted.
AP
AE
AE
AP
AK
AP
Yeah,
I
can
answer
that,
so
it's
really
just
clarifying
the
law
that
this
it's
something
that
we've
been
doing
for
quite
some
time
anyway,
which
is
enforcing
alcohol
restrictions
on
open
space
land.
But
there
was
a
phrase
in
our
ordinance
or
in
our
code
that
indicated
that
it
could
only
be
enforced
within
the
city
limits.
So
we
removed
that
and
then
there's
also
some
more
less
substantive
changes
to
park
names
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
actually
ali
is
here.
AE
Okay,
that's
awesome,
and
so,
if
I'm
hearing
you
correctly
and
and
look
forward
to
hearing
from
ali
too,
it's
not
really
a
change
in
practice
or
procedure.
It's
just
clarifying
because
I
thought
maybe
we
were
proposing
a
you
know
something
that
might
impact
what
people.
Currently
I
don't
know
if
people
drink
on
open
space-
and
it
sounds
like
it's
already
illegal
so
that
they
are
not
but
was
wondering
what
the
impetus
was
for
doing
it
now
and
it
sounds
like
the
impetus
is
just
cleaning
things
up
that
are
already
happening.
AP
And-
and
the
other
thing
I
guess
I
want
to
add-
is
that
there's
always
been
the
ability
to
request
an
alcohol
permit
for
like
facilities
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
that
would
still
continue.
But
but
there's
been
a
bar
of
no
alcohol
forever.
E
I
was
just
giving
a
process
suggestion.
I
would
be
happy
to
move
the
entire.
I
know
that
aaron
has
an
alternative
for
f
and
we'll
need
to
test
to
see
if
that
alternative
is
garner's
majority
or
if
f,
as
presented
by
staff
governor's
a
majority,
I
was
going
to
suggest
moving
the
entire
consent
agenda
see
how
the
votes
come
out.
E
If
people
would
like
to
vote
in
favor
of
aaron's
alternative,
they
can
vote
no
on
f
and
then
we
can
vote
on
the
alternative
or
we
could
vote
on
aaron's
alternative
first
and
then
vote
on
the
consent
agenda,
but
I'm
happy
to
move
the
entire
consent
agenda.
If
that's
that's
the
easiest
way
to
do
it.
AK
I
hate
to
mention
robert's
rules,
but
perhaps
this
time
it
might
be
easier
to
use
them.
If
you
just
move
the
consent
agenda,
aaron
can
then
make
a
motion
to
amend
your
motion
and
if
that
passes,
then
it's
amended.
If
it
fails.
Your
original
motion
gets
voted
on.
AM
F
Great,
so
I
move
that
we
amend
item
f
so
that
we
amend
ordinance
8463
by
striking
section
2,
which
is
the
general
fund
appropriation
for
additional
police
officers
from
additional
revenue
in
the
amount
of
384
860.
F
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
amendment
on
the
table
motion
and
a
second,
so
I
will
ask
all
in
favor
of
aaron's
amendment
raise
your
hand
one
two.
Three
okay
opposed
one,
two,
three,
four,
five,
six,
so
aaron
your
motion
does
not
pass
the
consent.
Agenda
has
been
moved
and
it
will
bring
us
back
to
a
question
about
june
1st,
but
it
doesn't
affect
the
motion
on
this
consent
agenda
right
now
so
alicia.
I
guess
over
to
you
for
a
roll
call.
Now.
D
F
E
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
I
I
meant
to
embed
that
into
my
motion,
so
I
my
my
motion
for
the
consent
agenda
was
with
the
one
change
that
tom's
made
on
the
annual
reporting
on
marvel
house.
B
A
L
D
All
right,
councilmember,
young.
D
AE
A
B
B
D
K
Mark,
of
course,
I
am
I
on
everything
except
item
n.
D
A
D
A
AQ
Yeah
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
on
aaron's
proposal
and
I
listened
to
everyone's
conversation
earlier
and
I
didn't
add
very
much
because
I
thought
I
couldn't
go
back
on
my
vote
from
the
previous
week,
because
I
was
thinking
of
the
consistency
of
voting.
Yes
for
something
and
then
turning
around
and
saying.
No,
knowing
that
maybe
the
police
department
or
chief
maris
is
already
making
plans
based
on
that
funding.
So
I
just
didn't
want
to
go
back
on
my
words.
AK
Sam,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
appointing
sandra
as
interim
city
attorney
she's,
an
outstanding
lawyer
she's
been
on
our
management
team.
I
think
now
for
four
years
and
has
so
well
improved
the
management
of
the
office.
The
office
is
in
really
good
hands
and
I
appreciate
your
appointment.
Thank
you.
I'm
also
going
to
say,
since
david
gear
is
here
to
run,
to
do
the
rest
of
the
meeting,
I'm
going
to
leave
so
good
night.
Everyone.
AP
Just
want
to
thank
council,
I'm
really
excited
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
interim
city
attorney,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all.
I'm
also
thankful
that
tom
and
I
will
have
some
overlap
time
before
his
time
before
he
leaves
on
june
11th
he's
an
unbelievably
helpful
and
supportive
resource,
and
we
have
a
great
team
of
attorneys
and
paralegals
at
cao.
AP
AO
A
F
Thanks
for
asking
sam,
I
I
think,
maybe
I'll
sleep
on
it
to
consider
my
options.
Forget
we've
got
a
couple
weeks.
A
D
AN
AN
Well,
as
I
said,
I'm
david
gear,
I'm
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
with
me
tonight,
is
our
light
library,
finance
and
governance
staff
team
from
finance.
We
have
cara,
skinner
and
devon
billingsley
from
the
library,
david
farnan
and
jennifer.
AN
So
we
hope,
with
all
of
these
people,
together
with
the
information
in
the
packet,
we
will
be
able
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
regarding
tonight's
agenda
item.
So
next
slide.
Well,
I
guess
somebody,
I
always
told
somebody
would
run
the
slideshow.
Whoever
is
in
charge
of
that.
I'm
on
the
second
slide.
AN
All
right
tonight
we
look
forward
to
hearing
from
our
community
at
the
public
hearing
in
our
presentation,
we'd
like
to
recap
the
council's
discussion
at
the
february
23rd
study
session
and
will
focus
on
funding
and
governance
options.
There
are
essentially
two
options
on
the
table
beyond
the
status
quo.
At
this
point.
AN
AN
As
I
know,
we
are
looking
forward
to
hearing
from
the
public
tonight
on
the
funding
and
governing
options
that
we've
identified
for
our
library
services,
the
in
terms
of
the
governing
options
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
today.
There
is
the
library
being
governed
by
you,
the
city
council,
with
the
advice
of
our
library,
commission,
or
it
is
governed
by
an
appointed
library
district
board.
AN
At
the
february
23rd
study
session,
the
staff
and
the
council
discussed
stable
funding
sources
to
address
community
goals
that
were
adopted
in
the
2018
library
master
plan
staff
presented
a
number
of
options
for
establishing
library
districts,
either
through
city
and
county
resolutions
or
by
a
petition
of
the
registered
voters.
We
also
presented
information
on
service
areas
for
for
the
city
and
life
and
district
type
approaches,
and
we
also
provo
provided
an
overview
of
our
library
services
and
the
total
cost
of
those
services
both
presently
and
as
anticipated
by
the
master
plan.
AN
AN
Staff
drafted
a
proposed
ballot
measure,
which
is
an
attachment
d
that
would
amend
the
charter
to
increase
the
property
tax,
middle
libby
mill
levy
limitation,
create
a
more
four
mills,
property
tax
revenue
earmark
and,
together
with
all
the
associated
tabor
language,
that's
necessary
for
a
tax
increase.
This
is
just
simply
as
an
example.
AN
AN
So
this
slide
is
a
work
plan
for
a
municipal
option
and
it's
actually
a
rather
simple
work
plan.
The
main
work
item
would
be
to
engage
the
community
to
determine
the
appropriate
mill
levy
and
the
preparation
and
presentation
of
a
ballot
question
related
to
raising
property,
tax
taxes
and
associated
city
charge
charges,
and,
as
I
noted,
we
provided
just
an
example
of
what
that
might
look
like
in
the
attachments
to
the
staff
memo
slide.
Eight.
AN
The
inter
intergovernmental
agreement,
as
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
must
be
established
between
the
city,
the
county
and
the
district
to
address
the
issues
relating
from
changing
the
library
from
a
city
service
to
a
more
regional
service
that
would
be
provided
by
the
district
library,
district
employees
would
be
or
city
library,
employees
would
be
transferred
to
the
district,
and
then,
of
course,
if
the
district
develop
affiliates
with
colorado,
public
employees,
retirement
association,
the
district
would
assume
the
resp
that
responsibility
for
its
employees.
AN
So
if,
if
we
go
the
library
district
route
and
it's
established
with
an
approved
revenue,
source
staff
anticipates
that
again,
since
it's
a
property
tax,
that
the
district
would
have
a
very
stable
revenue
source
to
fund
the
library
and
the
services
that
the
cities
would
like
that.
The
city
would
like
both
within
for
property,
that
is
within
the
city
limits,
as
well
as
those
in
unincorporated
boulder
county
that
are
also
in
the
district.
AN
There's
an
appointed
board
of
directors
that
will
govern
a
district,
and
it
has
much
more
of
a
singular
fiduciary
focus
on
library
services,
as
opposed
to
the
city
council.
That
you
know
has
to
balance
a
number
of
priorities
and
then,
of
course,
there's
a
clear
path
to
funding
library,
services
outside
the
city
limits
and
within
the
district
boundaries
which
may
include
areas
that
use
the
library,
including
unincorporated,
gun,
barrel
nywot
and
some
of
the
areas
in
the
mountains.
West
of
town.
AN
So
there
are
two
different
options
or
two
different
timelines
for
district
formation
in
the
packet
materials.
The
slide
up
summarizes
a
work
plan
found
in
attachment
c
option.
A
the
primary
difference
between
the
two
work
plans
is
when
the
district
itself
is
formed.
Option
b
has
the
district
formed
in
the
summer
of
2022.
AN
This
would
allow
a
little
bit
more
upfront
community
engagement
option.
A
has
the
district
formed
in
october
of
this
year.
So
if
the
council
directs
staff
to
begin
the
exploration
of
of
the
library,
district
staff
would
attempt
to
implement
a
work
plan
to
form
some
type
of
iga
process
committee
this
summer
to
explore
terms
and
conditions
that
will
need
to
be
addressed
in
an
iga
and
the
iga
will
address
the
city
services
that
would
be
provided
to
the
district
in
the
short
term.
The
transition
of
employees,
services
and
property
in
the
longer
term.
AN
AN
This
slide
presents
a
number
of
different
funding
options,
options
that
have
been
discussed
and
I'm
going
to
walk
through
this
scenario
by
scenario
scenario:
one
is
a
funding
option
where
the
city's
municipal
library
would
have
a
dedicated
property
tax
that
would
fund
the
total
cost
to
meet
community
demand
service
levels,
as
defined
in
the
master
plan
and
deferred
capital
maintenance.
AN
AN
The
mill
levees
needed
to
generate
about
20
million
bucks
is
about
estimated
to
be
about
4.56
mills,
which
would
result
in
about
a
257
000
increase
to
the
property
tax
bill.
On
that
850
000
house,
then
the
final
scenario
is
a
library
district
and
it's
a
comparison.
Much
like
the
the
municipal
scenario.
Two
above
is,
but
it
would
have
a
dedicated
property
tax
over
a
larger
area
that
includes
the
city
and
portions
of
unincorporated,
boulder
county.
AN
AN
The
middle
levy
needed
to
generate
20
million
dollars
is
estimated
to
be
about
3.85
mills
so
to
demonstrate
the
impacts
of
that
mill
levy
on
the
residential
property
owners,
a
residential
property
owner
of
a
home
that
was
worth
850,
000
that
it
would
be
about
214
increase
for
a
city
property
and
that's
in
part
due
because
in
the
charter
we
already
have
a
.33
mills
library,
dedication.
AN
So
we're
already
funding
part
of
that
and
then
in
the
county.
It
would
be
a
3.85
mill
in
increase
in
property
tax,
which
would
cost
that
850
000
home
approximately
234,
000
or
234
dollars
in
additional
property
tax.
AN
AN
All
right,
so
in
close,
so
a
lot
of
this
is
about
moving
forward
and
developing
the
staff
work
plan
on
how
we're
going
to
go
forward
and
explore
sustainable
funding
and
governance
of
the
library.
AN
AN
Again,
helping
us
are
helping
helping.
We
are
asking
you
to
help
guide
us
in
what
our
work
plan
is
going
to
be
on
this
project
for
the
upcoming
year
and
a
half
or
so,
and
I
guess
with
that
said
I'll,
just
close
it
and
turn
it
back
to
the
council.
A
Great
thanks
so
much
david
and
questions
from
council
bob.
E
Thanks
david,
that
was
a
great
presentation.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
two
questions.
David.
One
is
under
either
scenario
under
option,
a
or
option
b
that
you
just
laid
out
for
us.
There
would
be
some
degree
of
public
engagement.
I
assume
that
public
engagement
could
potentially
include
a
statistically
valid
poll.
I
know
that
there
was
a
poll
done
in
2019.
E
There
was
some
criticism
of
the
methodology
and
the
interpretation
of
that
poll
plus
that
poll's
gone
a
little
bit
stale,
it's
more
than
two
years
old,
going
on
three
years
old.
I
assume
that
if
it
were
the
will
council
and
and
if
we
could
find
financial
support
for
it,
because
I
know
polls
are
not
free,
we
could
pull
the
community
on
their
preference
on
option
a
versus
option
b
versus
versus
not
doing
any
anything
is.
Is
that
a
possibility.
AN
Yeah,
I
don't,
I
don't
see
why
that
would
be
a
problem.
I
would
ask
my
colleagues
in
life
the
library
who
managed
the
last
poll
if
they
have
any
comments
or
thoughts
on
getting
a
a
survey
or
a
poll
together
before
at
a
minimum.
We
would
address
the
you
know
if
we
were
going
to
do
district
formation
in
the
fall
or
next
summer.
AR
Yeah
good
evening,
council
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
question
bob.
Of
course
we
could
do
it
if
the
funding
was
available.
The
cost
of
doing
a
poll
is
about
fifty
thousand
dollars.
I
think
for
the
last
one
that
would
make
it
difficult
to
meet.
I
think
it
would
probably
make
it
difficult
to
meet
an
october
timeline,
so
you'd
be
pushing
it
back
to
2022.
E
Yeah
just
a
question
on
that,
thanks
david,
if
we
went
with
the
the
district
formation
kind
of
committee
that
would
explore
these
things,
I
was
a
little
curious
about
what
the
sensitivity
around
october,
so
it
sounds
like
under
either
scenario.
There
would
be
no
tax
vote
in
2021..
E
What's
the
what's
the
what's
the
driver
around
having
that
work
done
in
october,
because
we'd
still
have
another
year
to
do
the
iga
and
and
tee
up
the
tax
vote.
AR
Yeah,
the
the
the
separate
dates
for
scenario,
a
and
b
on
the
district
scenario
were
merely
if
this
council
wanted
to
take
action
on
formation
of
a
district.
Rather
than
going
to
another
council
with
potentially
new
members.
E
Okay-
okay,
that's
fine,
but
there's
no
other
than
that.
There's
there's
no
reason
why
that
district
formation
couldn't
be
in
december
or
january
and
still
have
a
2022
vote,
is
that
right.
E
Okay,
great
thanks,
dude
and
then
my
final
question
could
be
probably
for
you.
E
The
one
of
you
is
if
we
went
down
the
path
of
option
b
and
formed
a
group
to
work
on
community
engagement
and
thinking
about
the
iga
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
would
if
we
did
if
we
said
that
tonight,
would
we
be
effectively
saying
that
we
intend
to
form
a
district
and
and
we're
tasking
that
committee
with
the
mechanics
around
it
or
are
we
tasking
that
committee
with
exploring
whether
there
is
community
support
for
the
district
or
potentially
other
options
that
might
be
available?
E
AN
I
would
anticipate
that
it
would
be
both
that
there
would
be
some
level
of
community
engagement
and
then
I
think
also
the
idea
would
be
that
you
would
have
you
know
a
group
of
people,
that's
interested
in
library,
in
the
provision
of
library
services,
basically
helping
us
draft.
What
you
know
turned
that
iga
into
something
that
is.
That
would
be
more
kind
of
a
reflection
of
that.
We
could
present
to
council
to
be
a
reflection
of
what
the
city
council
feels
like
that.
E
Oh,
okay,
and-
and
so
would
we
give
that
I'll
call
the
committee
committee
the
option
of
also
recommending
to
not
form
a
district
that
is
maybe
they
fall
back
to
what's
now
option
a
which
is
to
do
a
dedicated
tax
but
keep
it
within
the
city
or
potentially
based
upon
the
engagement
community
engagement
they
they
undertake
to
to
not
do
anything.
In
other
words,
are
we
are
we
telling
them
figure
out
how
to
do
a
district?
Are
we
saying
tell
us,
what's
the
best
way
to
provide
stable
funding
for
the
library.
AN
If
that's,
if
that's
the
approach
the
council
wanted
us
to
take,
and
then
what
we
would
do
is
we
would
try
to
figure
out
what
that
looks
like
and
bring
it
back
to
the
council
at
some
point,
and
then
the
council
would
say
this
is
acceptable
or
it's
not
and
that
you
know
ultimately
the
decision
about
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
form
a
district
or
go
the
municipal
option
or
you
know,
continue
balancing
priorities
as
priorities
are
balanced
through
the
general
fund,
that
that
would
be
a
council
decision.
E
Maybe
it
can
be,
and
if
it
does
feel
beyond
october,
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
about
binding
future
councils,
and-
and
so
that's
that's,
why
I'm
asking
these
questions
about
trying
to
understand
what
this
committee
would
do,
particularly
if
the
committee's
work
is
not
done
under
this
council
on
a
a
future
council
may
have
a
different
set
of
direction
or
different
pathways
to
go
down.
So,
okay,
thanks.
E
A
Thank
you
bob.
Next,
we
have
mark
nearby
and
rachel
mark
my
first.
K
Question,
I
guess,
is
for
staff.
If
we
were
to
move
this
year,
what
work
plan
items
would
we
not
be
able
to
complete
that
are
already
part
of
the
work
plan
and
would
be
supplanted
by
this?
This
effort
and
process.
AR
AR
AR
K
Okay,
my
next
question
is
what
conversations
have
we
had
with
the
county
commissioners
on
on
this
I
mean
ultimately
they're
going
to
have
to
approve,
and
it
seems
a
little
silly
to
get
too
far
down
the
road
if
they're
going
to
have
a
different
view
of
this
district
than
we
do
either
in
terms
of
the
mill
rate
or
in
terms
of
the
the
boundaries
of
the
district.
It
seems
to
me
that
some
of
that
conversation
should
be
had
now
not
later.
AN
Yeah
well
I'll
I'll
start
and
if
janet
wants
to
turn
her
camera
on,
she
can
finish,
but
we
have
had
some
initial
conversations
with
the
county
staff
and
I
think
that,
first
and
foremost
for
the
you
know-
and
this
this
is
through
the
county
staff,
not
the
commissioners,
but
I
I
believe
that,
first
and
foremost
on
their
mind,
is
I
I
didn't
get
the
impression
that
they
were
particularly
interested
in
talking
to
us
a
whole
bunch
until
we
commit
to
a
a
process
and
then
once
we
commit
to
a
process
and
we
get
behind
it,
they
have
just
said.
K
You
know:
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
complaints
this
year
about
increased
the
property
assessments
and
people
are
obviously
grousing
about
the
contemplated
increase
in
their
real
estate
taxes
as
a
result.
How
valid
is
it
to
be
using
an
850,
000
average
home
number
as
representative
of
what
the
impact
of
the
tax
is
going
to
be.
AN
Probably
not
you
know,
I
would
ask
devin
or
kara
to
help
me
out
with
this,
but
you
know
we
used
850
000
with
the
last.
You
know
at
the
study
session
that
was
kind
of
what
we
used
as
our
comparison
model.
We
all
we
all.
We
all
got
a
little
shocker.
I
think
earlier
this
month,
when
we
opened
up
our
property
tax
assessments,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
that,
but
we
just
decided
that
we
would
continue
to
try
to
keep
a
continue.
AN
AR
Yeah
and
mark
it's
it's
relatively
simple
to
figure
out,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
if
you
look
at
a
residential
property,
it's
about
260
dollars
per
it's
26.26
per
100
dollars
of
value.
So
for
a
million
dollar
home
is
260
dollars
for
a
commercial
property.
It's
slightly
more
than
four
times
that
amount,
so
you'd
be
looking
at
roughly
1016
dollars
per
1
million
dollars
of
value
of
commercial
value.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a!
It
is
a
simple
formula
and
we
could
adjust
it
upwards.
AR
K
And
lastly,
once
there's
a
board
of
directors
for
this
library
district,
can
they
subsequently
raise
taxes
again?
Are
there
any
limitations
other
than
the
people's
vote
on
their
ability
to
to
raise
taxes
going
forward
in
the
future?
If
they
decide,
25
million
dollars
is
the
right
number
or
30
million
dollars
the
right
number,
for
whatever
reason.
AN
A
Thank
you
mark
nearby
and
then
rachel
nearby.
AM
Yeah,
so
this
also
for
staff,
just
a
quick
question
and
I'm
sorry
I
may
have
missed
this
or
not
understood
it.
If
we
move
forward
with
a
dedicated
tax
for
the
city
and
it
goes
to
a
vote
and
let's
say
the
residents
don't
vote
it
in
what
would
happen.
AN
It
would
require
the
city
to
either
look
at
a
different.
You
know
the
property
tax
is
one
revenue
mix,
so
we
could
look
at
a
different
revenue
mix.
We
have,
of
course
you
know
the
ability
the
status
quo
option,
which
is
that
the
library
would
be
funded
through
a
balancing
of
interest
is,
as
is
always
the
case,
with
everything
that
gets
funded
through
the
general
fund.
That
would
probably,
in
the
short
term,
be
what
we
would
do
in
terms
of
library
funding.
AM
AR
There
there
were
favorable
resort
results,
the
the
the
question
that
council
came
up
around
methodology,
but
the
pollster
who
conducted
the
poll,
which
was
a
statistically
valid
poll,
felt
that
their
favor
favorable
results
at
all
levels
tested
now
favorable
to
win
an
election
at
the
highest
level
was
was
something
I
think
anybody
would
question,
but
the
highest
level
is
far
beyond
anything
we
would
have
asked
for
anyway,
it
was
asking
for
something
closer
to.
AR
I
don't
know
20
more
than
what
the
current
ask
would
be.
AM
Would
resid
residents
with
lower
incomes?
How
would
this
impact
them?
Because
if
the
taxes
are
passed
on
to
renters
and
and
whatnot
by
the
landlords,
I
mean
this
is
going
to
have
an
impact
right
on
our
lower
income
community
or
have,
or
is
that
getting
too
into
the
weeds?
At
this
point,.
AN
Well,
no,
I
I
think
that
it
would.
You
know
when
you
raise
taxes,
it
comes
out
of
someone's
pockets
and
you
know
I
think
I
think
it
will
have
an
effect
on
you
know.
Certainly
everyone
who
owns
a
home
and
it's
another
expense
to
a
landlord
that
you
know
rents
a
home.
So
you
know
I'm.
I
am
guessing
that,
if
the
landmark
lord
is
you
landlords
would
probably
be
trying
to.
You
know
make
some
of
that
up
in
the
rents
that
they
charge.
A
Thank
you
nearby,
rachel
and
then
mary
rachel.
AE
I
think
I
have
a
question
for
david
farnan,
I'm
just
trying
to
remember
the
history
a
bit.
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
have
been
considering
this
for
so
long
that
surveys
are
still
and
property.
Evaluations
are
no
longer
accurate
and
we
had
already
had
a
hearing
on
this.
I
want
to
say,
january
or
february
of
2020
and
it
seemed
like
we
were
on
track
to
to
move
it
forward.
So
my
my
history
question
is
sort
of.
AE
AR
It
has
been
a
while,
and
so
the
library
champions
brought
forth
a
petition,
I
believe,
to
the
county.
In
2019
later
in
conversations
with
the
city
manager's
office,
they
elected
to
withdraw
that
petition
to
put
the
ballot
to
get
it
on
the
ballot.
In
exchange
for
commitment
to
make
this
a
topic
for
council
in
2020.,
we
did
not
have
the
public
hearing
in
2020.
We
were
interrupted
four
days
ahead
of
that
public
hearing
by
covet.
J
Yeah,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
work
on
this
issue.
My
first
question
is
about
the
repeal
of
the
gallagher
amendment
what
consideration
has
been
given
to
the
potential
impact
on
property
taxes.
With
this
new,
I
mean
talking
about
surveys
being
stale.
I
mean
a
lot
has
happened
since
then.
So
what
might
the
impact
be
on
property
taxes,
with
the
repeal
of
gallagher.
AR
You
know
the
submarine
I'll,
let
cara
jump
in.
I
don't
think
the
immediate
impacts
are
to
be
obvious.
There
won't
be,
they
won't
call
fall
at
once,
but
long
term.
The
desire
of
that
bill
was
to
stabilize
commercial
property
taxes,
so
they
didn't
jump
up
at
larger
percentages
than
residential,
because
the
way
gallagher
was
con
cara.
Do
you
want
to
jump
in
there.
AS
Hi,
yes,
car
skinner,
assistant
director,
basically,
it's
just
gonna
hold
the
assessment
rate
constant,
and
so,
even
though
there
was
a
large
increase
in
residential
values
with
this
most
recent
assessment,
the
residential
assessment
rate
is
not
going
to
go
down
the
way
it
would
have
in
the
past,
and
so
people
there
used
to
sort
of
be
an
offsetting
effect.
In
many
years
when
residential
assessed
values
increased
substantially,
the
residential
assessment
rate
would
go
down
slightly
because
of
gallagher,
and
that
did
not
happen
now.
J
Thank
you
and
my
other
question
is
so
say
we
go
the
route
of
forming
a
district,
regardless
of
whether
it's
a
or
b,
and
it
goes
to
the
voters
on
cable.
AN
A
Thank
you
mary,
so
I
see
no
other
counting,
I'm
going
to
suggest
this
is
an
opportunity
for
a
10
minute
break
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
do
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
any
objection
from
council
to
a
break
okay,
seeing
none,
let's
be
back
here
at
nine
o'clock
and
we'll
be
ready
to
start
the
public
hearing?
Thank
you.
A
A
B
K
Mark
yeah,
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
I
have
an
especially
exotic
tv,
but
my
wife
was
unable
channel
8
conked
out
on
her
and
we're
getting
every
channel,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
was
a
problem
particular
to
our
television
or,
if
it's
something
of
greater
application.
I
just
want
to.
K
Well,
I
have
to
pay
her
a
retainer.
You
know
on
a
monthly
basis,.
AE
AE
A
A
A
D
D
A
AT
AT
AT
As
my
children
have
gotten
older,
the
library
has
been
a
wonderful
resource
for
accessing
reading
materials
that
interest
them.
This
has
helped
fuel
their
interest
in
reading,
since
it
is
difficult
to
purchase
so
many
books
when
they
can
read
through
them
so
fast
and
during
the
pandemic.
My
children's
school
library
has
been
closed
due
to
coven
19
restrictions
and
decreased
staffing
levels.
AT
AT
A
M
Yes,
this
is
jenna
mcafee
and
I
wanted
to
first
say
that
I'm
on
the
speakers
list
twice,
so
you
can
remove
me
the
virginia
mcafee.
That's
I'm
the
same
person,
so
you
can
remove
that
one.
AM
B
M
My
kids
grew
up
using
both
the
main
library
and
the
george
reynolds
reynolds
branch
of
the
library,
and
they
fell
in
love
with
libraries.
20
percent.
More
is
how
much
city
of
boulder
households
and
businesses
would
pay.
Should
a
dedicated
tax
be
levied
only
within
city
boundaries,
but
broadening
the
tax
base
to
include
a
larger
percentage
of
users
lowers
the
cost
for
those
within
city
boundaries,
while
providing
a
broader
set
of
services.
M
The
boulder
public
library
is
more
than
a
city
service
and
in
fact,
30
of
library
card
holders
are
not
within
city
limits.
That
includes
me.
I
now
live
in
the
county
in
the
el
dorado
valley
area,
but
I
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
community
of
voters
who
gets
to
decide
on
long-term,
sustainable
funding
for
the
library
that
I
and
my
lab
neighbors
love.
So
much
in
a
previous
meeting
about
the
library
you
said
you
wouldn't
want
the
library
funding
question
to
compete
within
the
year's
capital
tax
on
the
ballot.
M
But
when
will
we
hear
this
council
say
that
the
library
must
be
the
priority
on
the
ballot,
as
bob
yates
pointed
out
in
his
newsletter,
the
amount
the
city
would
save
by
the
library
becoming
a
district
would
be
roughly
equal
to
the
amount
council
is
seeking.
With
this
year's
capital
tax.
I
asked
kent's
council
to
enter
into
a
binding
intergovernmental
agreement
around
forming
a
library
district
and
let
the
voters
decide
on
funding
it
and
no
more
delay.
Please.
AU
Thank
you
good
evening,
council,
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening.
My
name
is
nicole
speer
and
I'm
a
boulder
resident.
I'm
asking
you
to
support
the
formation
of
a
library
district
which
is
the
most
equitable
and
sustainable
way
to
help
our
libraries
serve
the
long-term
needs
of
our
community.
AU
There
are
no
other
free
indoor
spaces
in
our
community
where
parents
can
take
young
children
and
find
people
who
are
happy
to
have
them
around
even
now.
It
brings
me
a
sense
of
calm
to
think
back
to
the
afternoons
I
spent
sitting
in
the
libraries
while
my
children
played
and
roamed
the
aisles
looking
for
books
and
new
friends.
AU
It
isn't
only
families
with
young
children
who
find
a
sense
of
community
and
calm
in
our
libraries,
older
folks,
english
language,
learners,
teens
unhoused
residents,
students,
low-income
residents,
disabled
folks.
All
of
these
members
of
our
community
find
welcome
in
our
libraries
that
can
otherwise
be
hard
to
find
in
our
city.
Our
libraries
are
spaces
that
bring
us
together
and
I
cannot
think
of
a
better
investment
in
our
city's
future
than
finally
putting
our
libraries
on
a
financially
sustainable
path.
We've
been
discussing
our
library's
financial
future
for
years.
AU
Our
failure
to
create
a
library
district
years
ago
left
our
libraries
dependent
on
our
city's
general
fund
during
a
financial
crisis,
and
now
our
libraries
have
suffered
a
permanent
20
cut.
This
is
unacceptable
treatment
for
an
organization
that
provides
such
critical
services
and
benefits
to
our
community.
AU
AV
AV
AV
Costs
to
deliver
services
are
going
up
faster
than
revenue
growth
and
that's
without
including
the
new
initiatives
added
to
the
budget
with
every
council
election.
That
budget
hole
is
not
going
away.
Boulder's
days
of
double-digit
sales,
tax
revenue
increases
are
long,
gone
costs
to
deliver,
services
are
not
going
down.
Citizens
will
continue
to
expect
that
potholes
get
filled,
public
bathrooms
get
fixed
and
that
the
city
provides
safe
spaces
for
people
to
gather,
because
that
is
how
community
gets
built.
We
need
additional
revenues
to
deliver
city
services.
AV
A
library
district
is
the
most
equitable
and
transparent
way
to
raise
taxes.
It's
equitable
because
the
cost
of
delivering
this
set
of
services
is
spread
across
a
broader
base
of
regular
users.
It's
transparent,
because
details
on
how
those
dollars
are
spent
must
be
shared
with
the
community
and
council
each
year
by
law.
So
be
leaders
be
bold.
Just
do
it.
Thank
you.
AW
Hi
thanks
for
allowing
me
to
speak,
my
name
is
bruce.
Noracani
live
at
6th
and
north
street
and
I
am
a
strong
supporter
of
a
county-wide
library
funding
district.
Let
me
explain
why,
when
I
was
young,
I
loved
roaming
through
the
stacks
in
library.
I
could
pull
out
a
book
browse
through
it,
and
even
if
I
knew
nothing
about
the
book
or
the
author,
I
could
take
a
chance.
AW
AW
I
would
certainly
have
never
read
them
and
frankly,
I
would
not
be
who
I
am
today
and
today,
I'm
even
more
enamored
of
the
library
because
of
the
online
card
catalog
and
the
the
flatirons
lending
system,
where
we
could
look
at
information
from
many
other
libraries.
I
mean
it,
it's
even
better.
We
can
access
access,
things,
put
things
put
them
on
hold
and
then
pick
them
up
later
and
the
reason
I
I
want
to
expand
this
to
the
entire
county
is,
I
think
we
need
the
funding
to
get
small
branch.
AW
Libraries
in
more
parts
of
the
county
expose
more
people
to
them,
and
therefore
we
can
utilize
the
resource
that
we
already
have
the
books
and
videos
etc
expose
them
to
a
minor
wider
audience.
AW
AL
AL
Probably
every
other
day
I
mean
we
knew
the
staff
members
by
name
my
son
knew
the
isles
and
what
was
where
we
named
the
fish.
We
named
the
trains,
the
library
is
literally
a
lifesaver,
not
just
for
parents,
but
for
you
know
for
everybody
in
our
community
and
you're
going
to
hear
that
over
and
over
again
tonight,
I
think
from
everybody
that
that
has
stuck
around
to
speak.
So
I
have
two
key
questions
for
everybody
on
council
tonight.
AL
The
first
is:
why
aren't
you
listening
to
us
as
the
residents
and
the
voters,
and
the
second
question
is:
why
are
we
wasting
our
time
with
this
conversation
again?
So
why
are
you
wasting
your
time?
I've
been
on
this
zoom
three
hours
tonight
to
get
to
this,
but
you
know
three
years
ago
the
commission
unanimously
said
that
we
need
a
library
district
and
since
then,
we've
had
I've
lost
track.
AL
A
dozen
meetings,
maybe
where
we've
discussed
this-
and
I
just
I'm
perplexed
by
council,
just-
doesn't
listen
to
the
overwhelming
support
for
this
and
keeps
having
this
conversation.
Do
we
do
this?
How
do
we
do
this?
When
do
we
do
this?
It's
very
very
clear
that
there's
very
strong
public
support
for
this,
so
whatever
it
takes,
please
just
put
it
before
the
voters.
AL
Let
us
vote
up
or
down
and
then
figure
it
out,
and
please
stop
wasting
our
time
in
yours
having
these
roundabout
conversations
when
you
have
over
40
people
signed
up
to
speak
tonight
and
you've
had
dozens
signed
up
every
meeting
that
this
topic
has
come
up,
there's
overwhelming
public
support.
So
please
stop
thwarting
democracy
and
let
us
vote
on
a
district.
AB
AB
AB
AB
Our
home
homeschool
curriculum
is
literature-based
and
there's
no
way
I
could
afford
to
buy
all
of
the
required
books
and
the
boulder
public
library
had
about
95
percent
of
them
amazing
growing
up
in
brooklyn.
I
could
walk
to
my
library
branch
for
my
family's
apartment
and
their
young
reader
programs
and
librarians
made
a
lifelong
impact
on
me.
AB
AB
AX
Hi
there
I'm
renee
morgan
and
I
live
in
boulder
county,
but
I'm
going
to
read
a
letter
from
a
woman
who
lives
in
boulder
proper,
the
city
of
boulder
sarah
fardy.
So
she
begins
dear
council
members.
I'm
writing
today
to
express
my
concern,
outrage
and
heartbreak
over
hearing
that
the
council
may
prove
unwilling
to
save
the
county-wide
branches
of
the
boulder
public
library.
AX
Libraries
are
the
cornerstone
of
healthy
caring
communities.
They
help
create
equity
through
opportunity
and
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic
of
civil
unrest.
Of
pandering
to
marginalized
communities
in
boulder
with
promises
of
prior
prioritized
agendas
and
commitments
to
equity,
you
are
sitting
idle
in
the
face
of
the
exact
kind
of
opportunity
you
are
committing
to
make
closing
neighborhood
branches,
the
ones
that
can
be
walked
and
biked
to
and
parked
near,
without
worrying
of
cost
or
time
limit
of
parking
is
actively
creating
inequity
and
limiting
access.
AX
Libraries
and
their
programming
are
examples
of
the
kind
of
redistribution
abolitionists
call
for
redistributing
funds
can
be
honored
by
investing
in
libraries
in
their
programming
that
brings
culture
and
community
and
opportunity
for
free
to
any
community
member
that
needs
it.
Allow
us
to
vote
on
the
formation
of
a
library
district.
It
is
really
your
only
remaining
conscious
action
sincerely
a
concerned
tired
frustrated
and
brown
resident
of
boulder.
Sarah
fardy.
AY
Thank
you,
I'm
tim
williams,
gun
barrel
resident
and
vice
president
of
the
boulder
library
foundation
as
a
child.
I
grew
up
living
along
the
lewis
and
clark
trail.
I
was
fascinated
by
them
and
their
expedition.
I
could
not
understand
what
would
motivate
someone
to
trek
off
into
the
great
unknown
with
so
much
uncertainty
and
risk.
I
became
so
intrigued.
My
parents
took
me
to
the
library,
so
I
could
check
out
some
books
to
learn
more
about
them.
I'd
never
been
to
the
library
or
even
knew
such
a
place
existed.
AY
Not
only
did
I
discover
books
on
lewis
and
clark,
but
I
realized
I
could
become
my
own
explorer
traveling
toward
whatever
interest
I
desired.
While
there
I
stumbled
upon
a
book
about
paper,
airplanes
and
learned
techniques
that
allowed
me
to
enter
and
win
a
competition.
I
was
hooked.
I
went
on
to
learn
about
music
geology,
the
weather,
languages,
electronics,
all
manner
of
things
I
would
have
never
had
exposure
to.
Otherwise
I
dare
say
I
would
not
be
the
person
I
am
now
without
those
experiences
from
that
beginning.
AY
I've
been
blessed
with
a
lifetime,
love
of
learning
and
growth,
and
I've
been
fortunate
to
live
in
communities
that
have
supported
that
via
libraries
and
other
community
resources.
Boulders
libraries
are
a
treasure,
but
they've
been
treated
as
an
afterthought
for
far
too
long
as
council
chases
other
more
shiny
objects.
AY
A
wise
friend
of
mine
has
always
said
that
change
occurs
when
the
pain
of
staying
the
same
is
greater
than
the
pain
brought
about
by
the
difficulty
of
change.
We
are
at
that
point
with
our
libraries.
The
pain
of
staying
the
same
is
far
too
great
to
continue
with
the
status
quo.
The
library's
future
is
not
currently
sustainable,
nor
is
the
future
of
boulder's
overall
budget
with
so
many
priorities
to
juggle.
I
urge
you
all
to
evoke
your
own
inner
explorer
and
explore
the
district
possibilities
to
achieve
sustainable
library
funding.
AY
AZ
Hi,
my
name
is
caroline
alden
and
I'm
really
excited
about
the
prospect
of
finally
seeing
improved
long-term
stability
for
the
boulder
public
libraries
with
district
formation
about
every
other
weekend.
I
take
my
three-year-old
to
the
main
branch
and
first
we
grab
my
stack
of
books
from
the
hold
shelf,
and
then
we
go
head
over
to
pick
out
books
from
the
curated
staff
favorite
stacks.
AZ
AZ
I
learned
that
the
very
first
customer
of
my
startup
company
here
in
boulder
actually
found
out
about
us
by
reading
one
of
my
academic
papers
in
his
local
library
in
tulsa
oklahoma,
and
that
was
when
he
was
tasked
with
you
know,
going
to
research,
some
methane
detection
technologies
by
his
ceo,
so
bottom
line.
I
mean,
as
you
already
know,
and
all
the
other
folks
tonight
have
said.
Libraries
are
an
incredibly
valuable
public
resource
in
so
many
ways.
AZ
I'm
super
lucky
to
be
able
to
live
really
close
to
the
main
branch
here
in
boulder,
and
I
just
think
it's
so
important
that
this
resource
be
expanded
to
others
in
in
the
broader
area.
So
I'm
asking
the
council
this
evening
to
please
take
the
steps
now
to
start
the
district
formation.
AZ
T
Hi,
my
name
is
rachel
daly,
I'm
so
glad
the
library
is
getting
the
attention
it
deserves.
Tonight.
The
last
normal
pre-pandemic
outing
I
had
before
kovac
shut.
Everything
down
was
taking
my
seven-year-old
daughter,
kate,
to
the
stuffed
animal
sleepover
at
the
main
branch
of
the
boulder
public
library.
T
The
kids
left
their
stuffies
at
the
library
for
the
night
and
when
we
returned
in
the
morning
the
librarians
gave
my
kiddo
photos
of
her
stuffy
doing
all
kinds
of
fun
things
at
the
library.
My
daughter
was
absolutely
tickled.
We
checked
out
a
pile
of
books
and
went
home
all
without
spending
a
dollar
out
of
our
own
pockets
in
the
coming
months
as
we
isolated
at
home
during
the
pandemic,
I
would
see
that
pile
of
books
and
my
mind
would
go
back
to
that.
Last
get-together
we
had
with
our
friends
at
the
library.
T
Our
libraries
are
a
vital
part
of
our
boulder
community,
any
parent,
no
matter
their
age,
their
gender,
their
race
or
economic
means
can
bring
their
children
to
the
library
to
enjoy
these
events,
to
check
out
a
book
or
to
use
a
computer
before
kovud.
My
older
daughter
amy
learned
how
to
make
a
hat
at
the
boulder
public
library
maker
space
with
the
amazing
people
of
the
sewing
rebellion.
T
T
You'll
find
musical
story
time
in
citizenship
classes
in
queer,
themed,
teen
book
clubs.
If
we
want
boulder
to
be
a
center
for
creativity,
educational
attainment,
equitable
opportunity
and
technological
savvy,
we
need
enduring
accessible
community
spaces,
and
I
urge
the
council
to
support
a
library
district
to
ensure
long-term
funding
for
our
libraries.
Thank
you
so
much.
BA
BA
I'd
also
like
to
address
a
common
concern
raised
around
the
formation
of
a
library
district,
meaning
we
must
seek
control
over
this
valuable
community
asset.
That
is
not
the
case.
Under
the
proposed
district
model,
the
library
will
remain
under
the
governance
of
those
it
always
has
the
residents
and
taxpayers
of
the
regions
it
serves.
BA
Indeed,
a
district
is
better
able
to
ensure
that
the
community
the
library
serves
are
represented
in
decisions
about
its
operation,
since
the
district's
board
of
trustees
could
be
drawn
from
a
wider
patron
base,
including
the
proposed
district
boundary
stable
funding
for
our
library
is
a
can.
We
have
kicked
down
the
road
for
far
too
long.
Please
take
the
opportunity
before
you
this
evening,
to
move
forward
with
the
formation
of
a
library
district
and
a
community
vote
on
its
funding
as
soon
as
possible.
Stop
the
delay
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
BB
Hi,
my
name
is
patty
bonet
and
I
live
in
central
boulder
when
I
was
a
little
girl.
My
mom
would
take
us
to
the
library
every
saturday
as
part
of
our
weekly
errands.
The
librarians
knew
us
and
would
carefully
help
me
select
a
new
batch
of
books
each
week
which
transported
me
to
other
worlds.
They
sparked
a
lifelong
love
of
reading
and
learning
from
me
that
continues
to
this
day
today,
I'm
a
documentary
producer
and
the
boulder
library
has
been
the
host
of
a
number
of
my
creative
endeavors,
including
the
indigenize.
BB
Your
eyes,
photography
exhibit
and
screenings
of
my
film
come
back
to
sedan
about
our
local
lost
boys
of
sudan
and
has
served
as
a
meeting
space
for
numerous
groups.
I'm
involved
with
like
right
relationship
boulder.
The
library
has
helped
me
use
art
to
teach
our
community
about
our
fellow
citizens,
who
normally
don't
get
a
lot
of
exposure
or
the
opportunity
to
tell
their
own
stories.
BB
In
addition,
I've
attended
a
wealth
of
events
there,
including
countless
movies
and
concerts,
and
events
like
the
jaipur
literature,
festival
and
biff
that
have
made
this
city
a
much
more
vibrant
and
interesting
place
to
live.
I
use
the
library
weekly,
I'm
constantly
checking
out
films
and
books
for
research
in
my
work
and
I'm
extremely
grateful
for
what
this
place
and
its
people
bring
to
my
life.
The
library
is
the
heart
and
soul
of
boulder.
BB
I
love
that
I
can
see
so
many
people
who
I
might
not
normally
encounter
in
my
daily
life
here:
kids
learning
to
read:
immigrants
taking
esl
classes,
seniors
learning,
how
to
use
computers
or
students,
writing
resumes
or
taking
advantage
of
the
maker
space
shared
public
spaces
matter.
The
library
matters
I'm
dismayed
to
see
the
recent
layoffs
and
cutbacks.
We
are
a
wealthy
city.
We
can
do
better.
We
have
to
do
better
if
there's
any
hope
of
saving
the
soul
of
this
town.
BB
Every
other
library
in
colorado,
similar
to
boulder,
has
in
size
and
user
base
is
now
a
library
district.
These
established
library
districts
saw
little
change
in
services
due
to
budget
cuts
when
the
pandemic
hit,
while
boulder's
library
sustained
significant
job
losses.
Now
is
the
time
to
fully
fund
the
library,
when
I
think
about
how
the
library
helped
me
develop
and
grow
as
a
child.
It
breaks
my
heart
to
think
of
all
this
in
our
community
who
might
lose
their
opportunity
to
learn
and
thrive
due
to
cutbacks
and
loss
of
services.
BC
BC
As
a
science
teacher,
I
have
students,
write
research
papers,
and
now,
more
than
ever,
it's
really
important
that
they're
able
to
discern
credible
information.
The
library
databases
that
they're
able
to
access
for
free
are
crucial,
and
those
are
services
that
other
schools
have
to
pay
for
in
order
to
have
available
to
students,
this
space
for
student
projects
after
school,
getting
together
to
study
to
meet
with
tutors,
also
the
incredible
teen
space
to
support
social,
emotional
learning
for
students.
BC
It's
also
a
great
support
for
families.
It's
more
equitable.
It's
a
place
for
families
to
come
to
study,
to
access
the
internet,
to
learn
english
to
read,
so
it's
a
pretty
critical
space
as
you've
heard
tonight.
Obviously
we
all
care
very
much
about
our
library,
because
it's
many
things
to
many
people,
much
like
a
school
district
right.
It's
got
an
incredibly
wide
range
of
needs
that
it's
trying
to
meet
across
and
it's
it's
differentiating
us
across
a
wide
range
of
people
and
demographics.
BC
Imagine
the
council
running
our
school.
The
idea
of
of
creating
a
library
district
that
is
solely
for
the
purpose
of
these
services
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
Much
like
our
school
district
right
is
is,
is
governed
and
created
independent
of
our
city
council,
asking.
BC
In
the
current
model
and
looking
at
the
municipal
model,
we're
asking
them
to
compete
for
services
rather
than
supplement,
and
so
I
urge
you
to
vote
for
the
library
district
to
help,
expand
these
services
to
more
people
into
more
area
and
create
a
stable
funding
environment,
so
that
these
are
services
that
we
can
count
on
as
a
community
in
the
future
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
BD
Hello,
my
name
is
alicia
gibbs
seidl
and
I
live
downtown
first,
let
me
see
how
excited
I
am
public
hearing
is
taking
place,
boulder's
been
waiting
years
for
this
public
hearing,
so
thank
you
for
letting
us
have
that.
I
was
a
library
commissioner
in
the
past
and
now
the
on
the
boulder
library
foundation
board.
As
the
president,
I
know
the
history
of
the
library
funding
issues
and
shortfalls.
BD
Well,
I
hope
you
have
all
read
our
letter
in
support
of
the
library
district
through
resolution,
the
summary
of
which
is
that
we
know
how
incredibly
thin
the
library
is
stretched
in
funding
and
staff,
and
we
know
how
incredibly
popular
the
library
is
with
the
boulder
public.
The
foundation
continues
to
fund
more
and
more
as
the
city
cuts
and
cuts
from
the
library
budget,
this
method
of,
depending
on
the
foundation,
to
step
in
and
give
the
taxpayers
what
they
want
is
not
financially
sustainable.
BD
I'm
also
a
mom
in
boulder
one
of
the
things
I've
missed
the
most
throughout
the
pandemic
is
the
library
my
daughter
has
outgrown
lap
babies
during
the
pandemic,
and
it
will.
It
was
a
cherished
product,
a
cherished
program
for
me,
to
bring
my
kids
to.
She
will
never
know
that
program
due
not
due
to
budget
cuts,
but
the
pandemic,
but
those
two
things
aren't
that
far
apart,
it
could
have
easily
been
budget
cuts
prohibited
the
program
from
existing.
BD
I
don't
know
how
we'll
continue
to
to
do
all
the
foundations
programs,
with
the
staff
cuts
that
have
happened
due
to
cobin.
We
used
to
my
family
used
to
go
there
on
a
daily
basis
and
we'll
go
back
as
soon
as
we
can
to
read,
play
and
learn.
The
programs
are
priceless
to
my
children's
education.
The
staff
is
pure
gold.
Our
library
is
such
a
gem.
It
was
named
library
of
the
year.
I
love
paying
taxes.
Taxes
make
our
society
run.
Please
let
me
pay
taxes
for
my
library.
BD
We
have
such
an
amazing
library
here.
Our
library
even
has
a
maker
space.
The
library
is
a
bright,
welcoming,
inclusive
spot.
For
so
many
of
our
citizens.
Older
needs
to
fund
it
through
a
district
and
let
the
people
vote
lots
of
other
colorado.
Libraries
and
cities
have
created
districts
successfully
and
we
can
too.
It's
time
to
stop
kicking
this
can
down
the
road
to
a
new
city
council,
or
we
will
never
move
forward
with
funding
for
our
library.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening.
BE
Hello,
yes,
thank
you
for
holding
this
session
tonight
about
the
library
district.
My
name
is
anna
seeger
and
the
boulder
public
library
has
been
important
to
my
family
and
continues
to
be
important.
When
we
first
moved
here
from
el
salvador,
my
husband
took
english
classes
at
the
boulder
public
library
with
intercambio.
BE
He
later
took
his
citizenship
classes
at
the
boulder
public
library,
with
volunteers
from
intercambio
and
since
the
pandemic
started,
my
son
has
had
an
extremely
difficult
time
with
online
learning
working
on
a
computer.
Just
doesn't
it's
not
a
productive
for
him.
He's
he's
very
easily
distracted
and
he
was
recently
diagnosed
with
adhd
and
his
therapist
said
that
one
of
the
things
he
needs
to
do
is
have
be
taken
to
the
library
regularly
and
have
a
steady
supply
of
books
so
that
he
is
able
to
do
some
offline
focused
reading.
BE
We
requested
a
hold
of
some
books.
The
librarians
were
very
helpful
and
picked
out
some
books
for
him
and
set
them
aside
for
us
to
go
pick
up,
but
he,
since
the
teen
section,
is
still
closed
and
the
adult
section
is
closed.
He
can't
go
and
pick
out
and
walk
around
and
get
books
on
his
own
I'd
like
to
see
that
change.
BE
BE
I
heard
that
it's
about
1.3
million
dollars
that
is
needed
to
bring
it
back
to
the
2019
levels,
and
yet
we
spent
almost
the
exact
same
amount
on
funding,
more
police
officers
and
new
police
vehicles
to
deal
with
the
homeless
population.
BE
So
I
am
asking
as
a
library,
user
and
city
resident
that
the
councils
take
steps
to
begin
the
formation
of
a
library
district
that
can
provide
sustainable,
long-term
funding
for
our
library
system.
It
could
free
up
millions
of
dollars
in
the
city's
budget
by
removing
the
need
for
the
city
to
fund
the
library
and
then
thank
you.
A
U
This
is
a
regressive
tax,
whether
it's
sales
tax
or
it's
property
tax,
it's
regressive
because
property
tax
or
goes
up
when
the
land
value
goes
up
and
all
of
these
projects
in
boulder
and
all
of
these
needs
in
boulder.
You
know-
and
why
should
we
have
a
library
district
in
extending
to
other
counties?
We
send
the
homeless
outside
of
our
county
and
then
we
expect
them
to
come
back
and
we're
going
to
make
a
trade
now
and
they
can
use
our
libraries.
U
U
It's
a
matter
of
how
not
that
we
don't
all
love
the
library.
Of
course
we
love
the
library.
I
wish
I
knew
caroline
alden,
who
next
door
testified
for
this
project
tonight,
because
I
would
have
talked
to
her,
but
I
don't
have
time
to
talk
to
her,
because
I'm
at
planning
board
and
everything
else
trying
desperately
to
keep
things
affordable
in
this
town
before
it
becomes
a
town
of
elon,
musk
next
door
to
elon
musk,
let
the
developers
pay
let
the
developers
pay.
You
know
someone
spoke
of
saving
our
soul.
U
U
Condo
after
condo
after
development
after
development
get
every
subsidy
and
the
city
council
can't
do
enough
to
help
them
along
marpa
house
tonight.
That
was
obscene,
that
you
accepted
that
obscene
marpa
house
was
the
model
of
affordable
housing
in
boulder
and
yet
you're
scrambling
to
do
more,
affordable
housing.
The
more
that
you're
upping
the
value
of
the
land
in
boulder
and
increasing
the
cost
to
people.
BF
Hi,
I'm
nami
basin.
I'm
here
today
also
to
voice
my
support
of
the
formation
of
a
library
district.
I
have
personal
stories
and
I
can
talk
about
my
child,
but
really
what
I
want
to
say
is
that
the
thing
about
libraries-
that's
really
cool,
is
you
can
have
two
different
books
with
two
opposing
arguments
sitting
on
the
same
shelf
and
leave
it
up
to
a
reader
to
decide
what
to
make
of
the
information
presented
to
them.
BF
There's
no
conclusion:
there's
no
voting,
there's
no
end
of
discussion,
and
I
think
that
that's
sometimes
why
there's
a
feeling
of
being
affronted
when
individuals
in
our
community
register
complaints
because
they
perceive
impropriety
misuse
or
what
they
feel
like
is
over
occupation
by
certain
individuals
of
library
space,
but
just
like
those
two
books
on
the
shelf
with
competing
perspectives,
the
practice
of
learning
to
live
with
each
other's
different
uses
of
library.
Space
is
also
the
practice
of
pure
democracy,
and
it's
something
that
we
need
in
our
community.
BF
So
I
believe
boulder
needs
to
allocate
resources
in
such
a
way
that
it's
in
alignment
with
our
core
values
and
if
you
all,
truly
value
intellectual
freedom,
which
I
believe
you
do.
I
know
that
you'll
do
more
than
say
tender
words
about
our
library
and
you
will
make
deliberate
choices
to
ensure
that
all
branches
reopen
and
are
well
funded.
BF
BG
Hello,
my
name
is
miho
shida
and
I
live
at
6783
ida,
wild
court
in
gunbarrel
as
one
of
the
wealthiest
communities
in
colorado
and
the
home
to
the
state's
flagship
university.
I
think
it
makes
civic
sense
for
boulder
to
have
a
healthy
public
library
system.
The
library
empowers
and
benefits
all
segments
of
our
community,
especially
those
with
limited
means.
BG
So
why
not
create
a
robust
library
that
we
can
all
be
proud
of,
not
one
that
has
to
cancel
prospector
the
service
that
delivers
books
to
residents
mailboxes
during
a
pandemic
or
is
unable
to
open
branches
for
lack
of
funding
the
place
that
I
visited
the
most
when
I
was
raising
my
two
kids
was
the
boulder
public
library.
I
have
no
doubt
that
the
library
instilled
a
love
of
reading
to
them
and
has
helped
them
to
become
the
knowledge-seeking
inquisitive
young
adults
that
they
are
today.
BG
BH
Hello,
my
name
is
kelly
donovan
and
I
live
in
unincorporated
gun
barrel.
Some
of
my
earliest
memories
are
from
going
to
my
local
library
and
picking
out
books
in
the
children's
section.
Since
then,
I've
always
had
a
love
of
books
and
immediately
got
a
library
card.
When
I
moved
to
boulder
15
years
ago,
once
I
had
children,
I
was
excited
to
introduce
them
to
the
children's
room
at
the
main
branch,
knowing
that
it
could
create
fond
memories
for
them,
as
it
did
for
me
sure
enough.
BH
My
kids,
who
are
now
9,
6
and
6,
have
such
a
love
for
books
and
read
a
ton.
The
library
is
a
big
part
of
their
lives
pre-covert.
They
would
go
for
story
times
play
at
the
main
branch
and
pick
out
books
to
take
home.
They
were
disappointed
with
the
covet
shutdown
and
as
we
as
we
just
didn't,
have
enough
books
in
the
house
to
keep
up
with
their
reading.
BH
BI
BI
While
this
amount
has
been
increasing
at
a
staggering
rate,
we
would
love
to
be
taxed
more
for
a
library
district.
In
addition,
I
don't
know
any
business
owners
in
my
network
who
would
be
against
increasing
taxes
for
the
library,
increased
funding
to
a
library
means
a
more
educated
workforce
and
to
me
a
2019
survey
represents
the
will
of
the
people.
The
people
that
love
the
library
in
2019
want
to
continue
to
use
it.
Please
don't
waste
more
time
and
money
doing
nothing.
BI
BJ
BJ
BJ
BJ
Like
many
people,
I
was
amazed
when
I
learned
that
the
library
has
maintained
its
high
standing
in
the
community,
in
fact
expanding
its
programming
and
user
base.
Despite
years
of
stagnant
funding,
I
did
not
want
to
believe
it
was
that
bad,
but
the
pandemic
budget
crisis
shows
what
supporters
have
been
arguing
for
years.
The
library
is
the
first
to
be
cut
and
last
to
be
restored
when
sales
tax
revenues
decline.
BJ
AJ
My
name
is
henry
corn.
I
live
in
table
mesa.
Our
libraries
are
the
milk
and
honey
of
this
town.
My
family
visits
the
main
library
every
week.
In
normal
times,
we
check
out
around
700
books
a
year
to
read
to
our
kids.
My
two
young
girls
have
learned
to
read
with
the
help
of
our
library.
For
them
it
was
a
pre-preschool.
It
was
their
go-to
for
education
and
play
long
before
they
got.
They
were
eligible
to
be
students
in
our
school
district.
AJ
When
my
kids
were
just
one
year
old,
they
met
other
children
who
would
grow
to
become
their
lifelong
friends
at
a
library
story
time
now
my
girls
are
thriving.
They
have
become
incredible
readers
because
of
the
resources
the
library
offers.
My
eldest
maya
has
figured
out
what
she
wants
to
do
when
she
grows
up.
She
wants
to
be
an
author
and
illustrator.
The
library
has
made
a
tremendous
difference
in
so
many
children's
lives.
AJ
The
quality
of
our
library
will
echo
into
the
future,
as
our
children
grow
into
responsible
young
adults
who
are
less
likely
to
require
policing.
The
library
is
an
essential
resource
that
contributes
to
our
communities.
Mental
health,
where
people
can
find
sanity
meet,
others
get
lost
in
a
book
or
work
outside
of
their
houses.
AJ
As
residents
of
south
boulder,
my
family
would
love
to
see
george
reynolds
branch
reopen,
so
we
can
make
it's
a
library
on
foot
instead
of
a
10
minute.
Drive
gun
barrel
also
deserves
its
own
library
branch.
Without
adequate
funding,
a
whole
generation
of
boulder's
children
will
miss
out
on
these
sorts
of
opportunities.
AJ
This
will
do
serious
harm
to
our
community.
A
small
increase
in
property
taxes
dedicated
to
funding
our
libraries
will
be
worth
every
penny.
I
encourage
those
who
are
concerned
about
the
tax
to
consider
the
indirect
long-term
benefits
that
a
fully
funded
library
system
will
have
in
our
community.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AJ
A
You
henry
next,
we
have
donna
george
pooling
time
with
sarah
george
and
mark
george,
which
will
give
four
minutes
to
donna.
I
would
like
to
confirm
donna
that
you're
here
and
then
hear
sarah
and
mark
here
as
well.
N
N
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
donna
george.
I
live
in
unincorporated
gun
barrel
and
I
strongly
support
a
library
district.
The
increase
in
taxes
is
worth
it
for
me,
even
when
I
am
utilizing
the
library
much
less
than
when
my
daughter
was
younger.
Libraries
provide
a
great
service
to
all
citizens,
young
and
old,
and
creates
community.
N
I
see
the
library
as
an
important
community
amenity
that
needs
to
be
supported
by
a
reliable
budget
from
year
to
year
and
not
relegated
to
the
whims
of
the
city
budget.
The
library
has
been
neglected
over
the
years.
It
is
usually
one
of
the
very
last
items
to
consider
in
the
budget
and
gets
whatever
money
is
left
over.
The
creation
of
a
library
district
would
mean
that
the
library
would
have
its
own
budget
funded
by
the
district.
N
I
see
the
creation
of
a
library
district
as
having
a
great
library
system
supported
by
the
citizens
within
the
district.
I
strongly
believe
that
the
board
of
directors
of
the
newly
created
library
district
should
include
representatives
from
uncorporated
areas
like
niwa
and
gumbarro,
the
mountain
communities,
and
not
just
from
the
city
of
boulder
in
the
future.
The
independent
libraries
of
longmont,
lewisville
and
lafayette
may
want
to
join
in
the
district
further
spreading
the
cost
and
providing
for
more
efficiency
in
the
cost
of
purchases
and
services.
N
This
could
reduce
the
tax
cost
to
all
citizens
and
benefit.
All
the
libraries
longman
I
hear
is
looking
at
doing
its
own
library
district
for
its
library
and
maybe
boulder
should
talk
to
them
and
see
if
you
can
combine
their
library
district
with
boulder's
library
district.
N
I
have
used
the
longment
library,
in
addition
to
the
boulder,
the
lafayette
and
the
lewisville
libraries,
so
I
think
that
a
a
library,
district,
that's
actually
county-wide,
would
be
fantastic
200
to
300
more
a
year
in
property.
Taxes
is
worth
it
for
me
for
a
great
investment
in
important
library
services
for
the
boulder
county
community.
N
You
know
I've
been
going
on
recently.
I
had
200
dollars
a
month
in
in
my
comcast
bill.
That
was
just
a
month
which
was
internet
phone
and
tv,
and
I
had
to
try
to
lower
that,
as
we
all
know
how
that
goes.
So
to
me,
an
investment
in
my
community
for
200
300
a
year
is
as
a
strong
investment
and
a
library
is
important
for
the
community.
N
The
gun
barrel
branch
should
be
located
in
the
gumbo
community
center
plan
area,
close
to
the
grocery
store,
the
post
office,
etc.
Today
I
just
saw
spaces
for
rent
in
some
commercial
buildings
across
from
king
supers,
or
it
could
be
in
the
area
of
shops
next
to
king
supers.
I
also
want
to
know
note
that
when
my
daughter
was
young,
she
took
piano
lessons
next
to
the
meadows
branch.
That
was
the
branch
that
we
mainly
went
to
and
when
we
went
to
that,
we
always
it
was
a.
N
It
was
a
weekly
thing:
we'd
go
to
piano
lessons
and
after
piano
lessons
she'd
go
to
the
library
and
you
know,
take
out
more
books
and
return
the
books
that
you
know
she
had
taken
out
before,
and
we
also
went
to
the
cafe
by
there
or
we
went
to
the
grocery
store.
It
was
like
a
combined
trip
and
that's
what
got
I
believe
gun
barrel
should
be,
and
it's
important
to
to
support
libraries.
N
BK
Hello,
I'm
juana
gomez
at
1127
crimebrook
court
in
boulder.
Thank
you
for
your
attention
to
library
funding
tonight
at
this
public
hearing.
I
am
a
strong
advocate
for
our
public
library
and
for
stabilizing
its
budget.
BK
BL
BK
BK
BM
Thank
you.
Oh,
this
is
jeff
gerhard,
I'm
a
resident
of
polder
living
at
1420,
elder
avenue
and
I'm
president
of
the
boulder
area,
labor.
Council.
I
want
to
comment
from
a
working
family's
perspective.
The.
BM
The
effect
of
a
library
district
is
substantial.
For
one
thing
I
will
confess
the
boulder
area
labor
council
has
been
meeting
for
years
and
years
in
the
very
nice
conference
room
and
basement
of
george
reynolds
library.
BM
BM
That's
it
must
be
recognized
that
we
need
our
libraries
and
I
must
endorse
the
prior
two
speakers
in
their
regard.
One.
Yes,
voters
should
explore
creative
alternatives
to
really
tie
into
the
excellent
library
systems
in
longmont
lafayette,
louisville
superior,
not
so
much
I
mean
you
know
we
we
have
gaps,
we
should
fill
and
an
independent
district
can
do
that,
and
I
think
that's
why
the
labor
council
definitely
wants
to
support
the
idea
of
a
library,
district
and
open
up
our
libraries
and
fund
them
properly.
BM
BN
Hello,
this
is
michael,
green,
I'm
at
19th
and
canyon,
and
first
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
council
members,
for
all
your
hard
work.
This
is
my
first
time
joining
the
zoo
marathon
and
I'm
blown
away
that
you
do
this
every
week.
So
thank
you
so
much,
and
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
library
districts
as
a
way
to
create
more
sustainable
funding
for
the
library
and
to
expand
its
services
to
more
people
in
the
area.
BN
Although
I
do
deeply
value
all
the
benefits
the
other
speakers
have
highlighted.
I
want
to
highlight
the
value
the
library
services
have
brought
to
my
small
business.
I've
used
the
building
61
maker
space
to
do
a
variety
of
things
for
my
business.
That
would
otherwise
not
be
possible
from
cutting
10
000
straws
on
the
laser
cutter
for
use
in
my
product
to
prototyping
new
packaging
designs.
AO
Hi
also
a
first
time
caller
here,
I'm
a
south
boulder
resident
and
a
regular
contributor
to
the
library
foundation.
I
have
a
whole
list
of
things
that
I
love
about
the
library
that
I
do
there,
but
you've
gotten
a
pretty
complete
catalog
of
that.
AO
So
I'm
just
going
to
skip
to
the
thing
that
is
the
most
the
best
thing
about
the
library
for
me,
which
is
there,
is
not
a
single
place
in
boulder,
where
I
have
felt
a
greater
sense
of
belonging
to
a
diverse
community,
there's
every
kind
of
people
there
it's
a
great
feeling
and
I'm
grateful
for
it
every
time
I
visit
I'm
here.
First
of
all
to
thank
you.
You
are
looking
at
two
options
for
providing
greater
and
more
stable
funding
to
our
library.
It's
clear
that
you
recognize
the
library's
value
to
our
community.
AO
Secondly,
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
I
support
the
creation
of
a
library
district
over
the
option
where
the
city
maintains
control
from
what
I
can
tell
the
library
district
option
would
bring
in
more
money.
It
would
expand
the
number
of
people
who
are
contributing
to
the
library's
needs,
many
of
whom
are
currently
getting
its
services
for
free
and
it
would
create
a
governing
body
focused
solely
on
the
library's
financial
health
and
on
its
fulfillment
of
the
community's
needs.
AO
It
also
seems,
like
the
library
district
option,
would
free
up
more
money
in
the
city's
budget
than
the
other
option
and
relieve
city
government
of
the
responsibility
and
headaches
of
managing
the
library
as
an
institution.
The
heart
of
a
library
beats
in
service
to
a
free
and
civil
society,
a
society
whose
citizens
have
access
to
resources
that
improve
their
minds
and
their
lives.
BO
Good
evening,
mayor
weaver,
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
steven
frost,
I'm
a
resident
in
the
holiday
neighborhood
in
nobo,
I'm
faculty
at
cu
boulder,
I'm
also
vice
chair
of
the
library,
commission
and
founder
of
the
colorado
settling
rebellion,
which
is,
of
course
hosted
in
the
library's
makerspace.
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who's
taken
time
out
of
their
evening
to
advocate
for
the
library
tonight.
BO
Highly
qualified
staff
members
with
international
reputations
for
their
research
and
scholarship
have
been
have
left
and
have
left
and
we're
forced
to
move
on
to
new
opportunities
in
other
cities.
We
won't
get
these
people
back,
the
thousands
of
dollars
spent
on
recruitment,
training
and
development.
It's
all
been
lost.
It
is
easy
to
blame
the
decimation
of
our
libraries
on
covet
19,
but
the
reality
is
that
these
losses
are
the
result
of
our
current
funding
mechanism
throughout
colorado's,
nearly
60
existing
library
districts.
BO
BO
BL
I
volunteer
at
the
boulder
public
library
and
I
know
we've
heard
from
pretty
much
everyone-
that's
spoken
about
how
important
libraries
are,
but
I
really
don't
think
we
can
get
enough
of
that.
So
I'm
going
to
tell
you
a
little
more
as
a
child.
I
moved
constantly
and
do
you
know
what's
something
we
did
every
single
time
we
moved
somewhere.
The
first
thing
we
did
is
we
went
to
the
library
we
went
to
the
library
we
got
our
library
card
and
before
all
the
boxes
were
unpacked
at
our
house.
BL
Our
libraries
have
been
underfunded
for
decades
and
this
council,
not
next
council.
This
council
has
the
power
to
change
that
for
the
future.
Children
of
boulder
residents
of
boulder
and
the
community
of
boulder
three
years
ago
in
2018,
the
library
commission
recommended
forming
a
library
district,
and
I
support
this
as
you've
heard.
Many
other
people
support
this,
and
I
hope
you
all
support
this.
The
formation
of
a
library
district
can
provide
sustainable,
long-term
funding
for
our
library
system
that
will
only
enrich
our
community.
A
Thank
you
kristen.
Next
we
have
lila
hickey
eric
budd
and
then
we
move
on
into
new
folks
with
jane
wilson,
so
lila.
BP
BP
BP
Coming
from
fort
collins,
where
voters
created
a
library
district
more
than
a
decade
ago,
I
have
seen
first
hand
the
benefits
of
stable
funding
proportionate
to
the
growth
and
success
of
the
community.
The
fort
collins
library
district
is
thriving.
Even
in
this
pandemic,
boulder's
library
is
not
others
have
already
quoted
some
of
the
budget
reductions.
BP
BQ
Hello,
eric
budd,
I
live
in
south
boulder,
a
place
where
our
library
is
currently
closed.
So
many
of
the
speakers
tonight
have
really
talked
about
the
importance
of
the
library
and
its
services.
I
I
wanted
to
talk
about
how
important
it
is
as
a
public
space
in
our
community
libraries
are
a
place
that
drive
equity
in
our
community.
They
are
a
place
that
we
fund
that
anyone
can
go.
BQ
It's
a
travesty
to
me
that
in
this
time
where,
where
our
budget
has
been
come
under
such
pressure,
that
without
this
dedicated
funding,
we've
essentially
got
a
decision
from
you
all
to
increase
funding
for
the
police
force,
several
million
dollars
to
enforce
on
homeless
people,
people
experiencing
homelessness,
while
our
libraries
remain
closed,
while
people
can't
get
access
to
those
services
and
that's
why
we
need
this
kind
of
dedicated
funding
for
what
is
a
public
space
for
everyone.
Thank
you.
BQ
P
Hi,
I'm
jane
sykes,
wilson,
maxwell
avenue
I've
already
spoken
to
you
today,
so
I'm
not
gonna
repeat
what
I
had
to
say.
I
just
had
one
comment
to
add
before
this
public
comment:
there
was
a
discussion
about
creating
a
committee
to
research
and
find
out
what
the
community
would
like
whether
they'd
like
a
library,
district
or
not.
My
only
comment
is
to
that
is
that
I
am
a
library,
commissioner,
and
I'm
sitting
on
the
third
library
commission
that
has
recommended
this
to
the
council.
P
So
in
the
discussion
of
creating
more
research
around
this
and
reaching
out
to
more
communities,
I'd
really
ask
you
to
look
to
the
last
light
three
library
commissions
who
have
recommended
this,
who
have
looked
deeply
into
the
funding,
looked
at
the
issues
and
have
recommended
to
city
council
that
we
move
forward
with
the
library
district.
Thank
you.
A
V
V
V
One
of
the
first
things
I
did
when
I
moved
here
was
to
get
a
library
card,
but
so
I
was
sad
when
library
funding
was
cut
when
the
pandemic
hit
and
when
I
looked
at
librarians
were
laid
off,
and
I
was
also
disappointed
that,
as
a
result
of
the
funding,
because
I
was
no
longer
able
to
use
interlibrary
loan
because
that
service
was
cut
at
the
boulder
public
library.
So
I
went,
I
packed
my
kids
in
the
car
and
I
went
to
golden
library
to
get
a
library
card
access
to
pikes
peaks
library
district.
V
V
F
BR
Hi
everyone,
sharon,
procopio
4954
10th
street
here
in
boulder,
I
often
attend
these
meetings
wearing
my
design
hat
as
a
civil
engineer
for
various
projects
and
in
full
transparency.
I've
had
the
pleasure
to
work
with
staff
on
the
library.
The
north
boulder
library
is
a
civil
engineer
on
the
site
project
and
I'm
proud
of
the
design
team
for
including
really
all
the
stakeholders
that
work
together
to
prove
construction.
BR
But
today,
I'm
here
as
a
citizen
of
boulder
for
the
past
15
years
and
a
homeowner
here
in
north
boulder
in
the
dakota
ridge
neighborhood
and
a
mom
of
an
eight-year-old
who
loves
the
library
almost
as
much
as
I
do
he's
still
sitting
here
next
to
me.
Reading,
because
he
wanted
to
wait
for
me
to
finish
this.
To
put
him
to
bed,
he
loves
choosing
library
books.
He
loves
the
playground
at
the
civic
area.
BR
He
took
part
in
the
library's
winter
reading
challenge
and
we
followed
the
many
covid
friendly
online
events
and
spent
the
past
year
missing
our
favorite
librarians
and
our
maker
space,
and
we
look
forward
to
their
return
and
while
the
capital
funds
for
the
new
library,
construction
in
our
neighborhood
are
approved
without
the
library
district,
the
staffing
and
resources
to
actually
operate.
That
and
other
libraries
may
not
be
available.
BR
We
funded
the
structures,
but
not
the
social
infrastructure
that
funding
the
library
district
would
help
secure
for
the
longer
term,
and
that's
really
important,
I
think,
to
reflect
on
the
libraries
are
a
key
pillar
in
our
community
and
we
need
to
fund
them
if
we
want
to
help
our
own
house,
our
kids,
our
lower
and
middle
income
families
and
all
the
other
varieties
of
citizens
we
have
in
between.
If
we
want
us
all
to
flourish
rather
than
to
flail
here
in
boulder.
BR
So
as
a
library,
user
and
supporter,
I
strongly
encourage
council
to
take
action
now
on
the
formation
of
a
library
district
that
can
provide
sustainable,
long-term
funding
for
our
system.
You've
heard
it
from
others,
and
I'm
here
to
just
add
on
and
say
that
I
wish
you
all
a
speedy
deliberation.
Thank
you.
A
Next,
we
have
alicia
murray
and
it
looks
like
riley.
Mancuso
has
shown
up
so
we'll
start
with
alicia
and
then
go
to
riley.
BS
BS
BS
So
obviously
many
many
things
have
most
things
have
been
covered
in
this
public
comment.
I
did
want
to
speak
on
one
thing
and
many
many
moms
have
spoken
interesting,
mostly
moms
right.
BS
So
I
just
want
you
to
think
about
all
of
those
people.
As
you
know,
I
think
david
farnan
has
the
best.
You
know
really
the
best
quote
that
libraries
are
the
last
great,
unbroken
promise
of
a
democratic
society.
You
know
and
this
year
because
of
covid
we're
we're
not
doing
that.
It's
definitely
not
equitable
service,
it's
extremely
limited
service
and
you
have
to
work
very
hard
to
access
services
this
year.
BS
I
did
want
to
point
out
one
other
thing:
oh
18
seconds,
okay,
50
000
for
a
for
another
another
survey.
Please
don't
do
that.
I
I
can't
stand
the
thought
of
that.
I
want
you
to
not
only
form
the
district.
I
want
you
to
campaign
for
this
ballot
ballot
measure.
Thank
you.
BT
Hey
council,
so
yeah
I
mean,
like
you
know,
so
many
people
have
spoken
out
tonight
in
support
of
libraries.
You
know
libraries
are
a
universal
public.
Good
librarians
are
the
best
people
on
earth
and
if
you
give
them
more
money,
they
know
how
to
spend
it
for
the
good
of
the
community.
BT
A
library
district
is
kind
of
a
no-brainer,
as
people
have
pointed
out,
lots
of
cities
in
color
lots
of
regions
in
colorado
have
them
and
have
been
using
them
very
successfully.
I
also
don't
really
understand
why
the
city
of
boulder
would
not
want
to
make
more
people
outside
of
the
city
pay
for
stuff,
like
that.
Just
seems
like
a
no-brainer
win-win
for
me.
You
know
you
love,
saying
like
that.
BT
These,
like
30
of
library,
users
who
aren't
in
the
city,
are
like
mooches
or
whatever
so,
like
you
know,
bring
them
in,
create
a
library,
district
and
yeah.
I
mean
you
know:
it's
been
a
long
night.
Libraries
are
good,
create
a
library.
District
makes
sense,
solidarity
with
our
sister
city,
nablus,
palestine,
resisting
the
israeli
occupation,
support,
bds,
boycott
israel,
peace.
A
AE
All
right
I'll
kick
us
off
here,
so
my
feeling
is
that
this
council
does
not
agree
on
everything,
but
I
think
that
we
are
really
good
at
not
kicking
cans
down
the
road.
So
that
is
what
I
would
ask
us
to
stay
true
to
tonight.
AE
This
particular
issue
has
really
dragged
on,
and
while
we
cannot
control
that
covet
happened,
we
can
help
to
make
up
for
lost
time
by
voting
to
form
a
district
by
resolution
tonight
I
agree
with
the
speakers
who've
touted
the
benefits
of
libraries
and
I
will
not
belabor
their
points
except
to
share
that.
I
have
spent
a
ton
of
time
in
libraries
as
well,
and
I
especially
appreciate
that
people
who
are
most
in
need
can
get
their
needs
met
at
libraries
from
de
facto
shelters
to
free
toddler
activities.
AE
Libraries
are
amazing
and
I
firmly
believe
in
supporting
libraries
as
a
provider
of
crucial
social
infrastructure.
I
also
have
a
sense
that
most
of
us
probably
love
and
want
to
support
libraries.
Just
like
I
do-
and
I
don't
know
if
I
differ
on
this
or
not,
but
based
on
my
lifetime
of
encounters
in
libraries,
where
I
have
always
felt
safe
and
supported
and
kind
of
free
to,
like
whatever
I
like
and
not
judged,
and
where
I
always
get
good
advice.
AE
I
just
deeply
trust
library,
folks
they're
telling
us
that
forming
a
district
by
resolution
is
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
for
libraries
and
I'm
just
going
to
trust
them
on
that,
and
so
I
would
say,
let's
vote
to
form
the
district
by
resolution
and
get
moving
on
the
iga
and
let
voters
decide
and
in
any
event
let
us
not
kick
the
can
down
the
road
to
a
future
council
or
eat
up
more
council
staff
and
community
time.
Looking
again
at
this
threshold
issue,
thanks.
AE
A
AE
Beyond
I,
I
think
that
david
gear
answered
that
that
all
of
them
maybe
were
looking
at
at
the
supposition
of
forming
a
district
by
resolution,
and
I
think
that's
been
a
threshold
issue
that
we
keep
coming
back
to
on
this
council
and
if
we
sidestep
it,
I
I
just
fear
that
we
will
have
to
revisit
it
so
yeah.
AE
That's
what
I'm
asking
us
to
do
is
to
form
district
by
resolution,
and
my
preference
would
be
to
get
it
done
by
the
october
timeline
so
that
the
next
council
doesn't
have
to
get
up
to
speed
and
we
have
another.
You
know
year
of
studies
and
more
information
getting
outdated,
so
yeah.
That's
what
I'm
asking
for.
AN
Thanks,
if
I
might
add,
I
think
one
thing
that
would
be
helpful
for
staff
is
in
attachment
c
there's
a
couple
of
work
plans
related
to
library,
district
formation.
F
Yeah-
and
I
agree
with
everything
that
rachel
said-
I
mean
we-
we
all
know
what
wonderful
things
libraries
are
and
what
a
great
equalizer
they
are
in
terms
of
providing
access
to
to
knowledge
for
everyone
and
and
so
many
people
in
public
testimony
who
spoke
eloquently
about
that.
So
I
won't.
I
won't
attempt
to
repeat
all
of
those
marvelous
sentiments,
but
I
think
it's.
It's
really
compelling
that
the
experts
in
this
area
are
all
telling
us
that
a
district
is
the
right
way
to
go.
F
So
our
current
library,
commission,
the
last
library
commission,
the
commission
before
that
have
all
endorsed
this
unanimously
is
the
best
way
forward
for
our
library
system
and
it's
in
written
into
our
library
master
plan.
F
Their
recommendation
as
well
also
the
very
hard
working
folks
in
the
boulder
library
foundation
who've
been
supplying
enormous
amounts
of
critical
funds
to
the
library
for
many
years
and
have
stepped
up
enormously
in
the
last
year
during
the
pandemic,
as
well
also
unanimously
recommend
a
library,
district
and
100
of
our
speakers
tonight
were
in
favor
and
in
with
many
inspiring
words
from
folks
from
the
the
local
area
labor
council
to
local
residents
to
people
in
unincorporated
boulder
county.
F
I
I
thought
it
was
quite
inspiring
to
hear
from
a
number
of
people
outside
the
city
who
are
users
of
the
library
that
are
not
currently
taxed
and
who
are
saying
form
a
district
and
add
our
taxes,
please
to
the
tax
base
of
the
district.
F
I
thought
that
was
really
impressive,
so
I
do
think
it's
the
the
best
track
forward
for
sustainable
funding
for
the
library.
I
hope
we've
moved
forward
on
it
expeditiously.
It
is
a
well-worn
pathway.
There
are
many
library
districts
in
the
state
and
fort
collins.
Most
recently
did
an
almost
identical
move
10
years
ago,
and
it's
been
extremely
successful.
So
I
agree
with
rachel
about
not
kicking
the
can
down
the
road,
and
you
know
to
david's
point:
let's
do
that
that
quicker
time
frame
you
know
to
to
move
forward.
F
You
know
somebody
referenced
the
question
about
buying
a
future
council.
You
know
future
council
if
they
really
felt
compelled
to
could
always
undo
something
if
they,
if
a
majority
felt
like
they
really
had
to,
but
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
forward
on
our
own
without
doing
anything
improper.
So
I
hope
we'll
take
a
good
first
step
tonight.
Thanks.
AM
Mine
was
just
a
question:
does
staff
have
a
page
they
could
put
up
in
terms
of
what
they
want
answered
from
council?
Sorry,
I
didn't
know
if
there
was
a
slide
for
that.
It'd
just
be
helpful
to
see
it
for
a
moment.
AN
AN
AN
And
just
to
put
a
little
extra
on
this,
you
know
with
the
library
district
motion
we
we
didn't
specify.
Frankly,
we
wanted
to
hear
from
the
council
in
terms
of
which
approach
you
wanted
to
take,
but
we
do
have
two
different
options
that,
as
I
described
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
one
that
would
have
the
council
taking
action.
This
fall
and
one
that
would
a
work
plan
that
would
have
council
taking
action
next
summer.
A
So
so,
under
the
second
one
library,
district
governance
and
funding,
there
are
two
options,
one
of
which
has
a
district
formed
in
october,
one
of
which
has
a
district
formed
in
summer
of
2022..
So
there's
two
options
shown,
but
the
second
one
has
two
different
versions:.
AM
AN
Well,
actually,
eventually,
they
both
go
to
the
ballot.
The
municipal
funding
option
is
just
would
be
just
basically
a
tabor
and
the
necessary
charter
amendments
that
you
would
need
to
do
a
municipal
funding
option
with
the
library
district.
The
way
that
the
process
would
work
is
the
council
would
pass
the
council
and
the
county
commissioners
would
pass
the
res
pass
resolutions
forming
the
district.
AN
AN
We
would
negotiate
the
transitional
iga
and
then,
after
that
you
know,
once
we
had
that
part
done,
then
the
library
district
would
put
a
ballot
measure
on
to
raise
a
property
tax,
a
tabor
measure
and
and
that's
how
the
voters
would
vote.
If
you
were
going
the
resolution
route.
AM
And
so
just
sorry
this
is,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
getting
this
right.
So
is
there
a
reason
we
can't
put
it
to
the
ballot
first
to
even
find
out
if
the
community,
I
understand
that
we
just
had
a
ton
of
people
sounding
like
they
were
for
it,
but
I
just
I've
heard
so
much
against
it
too
that
before
we
go,
do
all
of
that
work,
there's
not
just
a
way
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
to
find
out.
If
we
even
want
to
create
the
governance.
AN
Well,
at
when
we
all
got
together
in
february
to
talk
about
the
library
district,
I
think
we
went
through.
AN
You
know,
there's
two
approaches,
one:
the
the
residents
within
the
district
can
circulate
a
petition
and
then
ask
the
county
commissioners
to
put
it
on
to
put
the
question
of
whether
to
form
a
district
on
the
ballot,
and
I
think
that
david
fernand
earlier
was
talking
about
the
fact
that
the
boulder
library
champions
in
fact
created
and
circulated
such
a
petition
and
then
rather
than
you
know,
basically
go
through
and
and
have
an
election.
AN
They
worked
with
the
city
manager
and
you
know
various
council
members
to
say:
hey,
let's
have
a
con.
Let's,
rather
than
push
this
onto
the
ballot,
let's
have
a
more
broad
encompassing
conversation
about
how
library
services
should
be
governed
and
funded.
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now,
I
think
in
february
what
I
took
away
from
the
council's
discussion
was,
I
heard
you
guys
say
we
don't
want
to
talk
about
petitioning
anymore.
AG
Adam
thanks
david
one
of
the
pushbacks
I've
heard.
Is
you
know
that
we're
giving
up
the
library
as
an
institution?
Is
there
any
sort
of
way?
Even
if
we're
forming
a
library
district
that
we
can
maintain
the
library
as
a
city,
you
know
just
the
property
itself
owned
by
the
city
and
rent
it
for
like
a
dollar
a
year
or
something
along
those
lines?
Is
that
a
possibility
still.
AN
Yeah
sure
I
mean
you
know
and
that'll
be
something
that
that
will
be
the
transition
of
what
will
be
negotiated,
but
it
could
be
a
long-term
lease
arrangement.
It
could
be
a
sale,
it
could
be
just
a
gift
to
the
district
once
they
have
a
revenue
source
and
from
you
know,
kind
of
the
my
understanding
of
what
I've
learned
from
reading
about
library
district
formation.
AN
You
know
lease
with
nominal
consideration
and
I
believe
kim
setters
is
on
the
call
he's
a
he's,
a
much
better
expert
on
this
than
I
am,
but
I
believe
that
there
was
one
instance
where
the
library
district
or
the
city
actually
sold
its
assets
at
more
of
a
fair
market
value.
AG
L
E
Yeah
just
follow
up
on
adam's
good
question,
so
I
just
wanna
make
sure
that
I
know
we've
been
through
this
a
bunch
of
times,
but
it's
this
is
complicated
stuff.
You
council
formed
a
district
at
some
point
time
the
trustees
are
appointed
and
the
city
and
the
trustees
negotiate
an
iga.
What
what
what
happens
if
they
don't
reach
agreement?
So
let's
say
you
know
per
adam's
point,
there's
a
sticking
point
on
value
of
assets
or
some
other
detail.
What
what?
What?
What
what
happens?
AN
Well,
I
would
ask
kim
setter
to
turn
his
microphone,
his
microphone
and
his
camera
on
right
now,
but
from
what
from
what
I
understand
just
to
start
with,
you
know,
there's
a
90
day
time
frame
in
the
statute
to
actually
negotiate
this.
I
don't
think
you
know
what
the
formations
that
I've
looked
at.
I
don't
know
that
anybody's
made
that
timeline
so
that
that
often
gets
extended
and
they
work
a
deal
and
kim.
Do
you
have
some
thoughts
that
you
would
like
to
add
to
the
conversation.
BU
E
Okay,
thanks
kim,
and
I
just
kind
of
follow
up
question
for
either
one
of
you
I
think
we've
talked
before
about
the
the
ultimate
question,
of
course,
is
the
tax
question,
and
so
this
goes
to
the
voters
on
a
tax,
taber
tax
question
next
year
or
at
some
point
in
the
future,
and
if
it,
if
it
passes,
obviously
then
they're
off
and
running
if
it
fails,
I
think
you've
told
us
that
some
some
district
formations
have
said.
Okay,
you
get
two
goats
at
it
or
three
goes
at
it.
Where
is
that?
E
Where
is
that
embedded
that
kind
of
how
many
times
they
can
ask
for
tax?
And
then
what
happens?
Is
there
kind
of
a
self-destruct
that
is
in
the
ordinance
that
forms
a
district?
Is
there
a
provision
that
says
and
if
it
doesn't
pass
get
funding
by
2025
it
automatically
dissolves
or
once
the
district's
formed?
It
exists
forever
and
council
no
longer
has
jurisdiction
over
it.
Even
though
there's
no
money
and
there's
no
transfer
of
assets.
BU
And
you're
exactly
right
that
the
euro
formation
resolution
is
where
that's
a
condition
of
the
existence
of
the
district,
and
I
believe
mr
gear
and
and
the
and
the
city's
lawyers
have
drafted
in
the
sample
that
there's
a
several
attempts
at
getting
funding
through
2024.
BU
Of
course,
they're
just
they're
just
pulling
numbers
out
of
the
hat
at
this
point,
because
it's
up
to
you
to
decide
if
there's
no
funding
at
that
point,
the
district
automatically
dissolves.
K
K
Timing
is
an
issue
for
me.
I
would
not
want
to
see
the
ballot
measure
the
tapered
ballot
measure
coming
on
this
fall.
I
think
we
have
a
heavy
enough
lift
in
terms
of
the
perspective
community
culture
and
safety
tax
renewal,
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
critical
measure
for
this,
for
this
city
in
terms
of
other
infrastructure
needs
that
are
not
being
met
to
the
tune
of
about
300
million.
K
At
this
point,
so
I
really
don't
want
to
do
them
both
at
one
time
in
terms
of
the
actual
agreements,
the
iga
itself.
I
I
still
think
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
need
to
be
answered,
and-
and
so
I'm
negotiated
and
I'm
concerned
about
those
a
do-
we
convey
assets
which
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
at
least
the
buildings.
K
Do
we
lease
them?
Do
we
lease
them
for
a
dollar
a
year?
If
the
district
is
raising
20
million
dollars?
Is
there
a
good
argument
for
not
paying
a
fair
market
value
on
the
rental
or
if
there
is
let's
understand
what
that
is,
I'm
a
little
concerned?
Did
I
correctly
read
the
the
memo
david
that
if
we
move
forward
quickly
this
year,
that
a
couple
of
city
departments
would
have
to
actually
outsource
the
work
that
they're
going
to
do
to
stand
this
up.
AN
Well,
I
would
so
from
this
from
the
perspective
of
the
city
attorney's
office.
We
stand
ready
to
implement
whatever
direction
we
get
from
the
council.
Now
speaking
for
finance
and
the
library
I
would,
I
would
just
ask
them
to
pipe
up
in
terms
of
what
their
own
work
plans
are
for
the
remainder
of
the
year.
AS
Hi
sorry,
this
is
kara
skinner.
We
would
just
be
challenged
if
it
really
began
straight
away
in
june
through
the
fall
and
that's
why
we
said.
If
it
did,
we
would
probably
have
to
contract
with
someone
to
help
us
meet
some
of
the
needs
because
of
the
timing,
with
the
annual
budget
process
and
staffing
realities
of
of
the
staff
that
we
have
right
now.
K
AS
We're
not
exactly
sure
right
now,
you
know
I
think
we'd
have
to
probably
talk
with
possibly
kim
cedar
who's
on.
This
call
he's
done
this
for
a
number
of
districts
of
what
type
of
support
is
out
there
and
what
the
price
tag
might
be.
AS
I
think
hr
would
be
similarly
challenged
and
might
need
some,
and
I
think
they
do
think
they
would
need
some
assistance
work
on
what
the
input
that
they
would
need
to
provide
into
the
iga
committee
with
regard
to
the
transition
of
employees
all
right,
so
I
would
have
something.
So
we
would
I
I
guess
I
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
ten
thousand
five
thousand
ten
thousand
twenty
thousand.
We
haven't
really
explored
it,
and
I,
I
think
we
we
just
don't,
have
a
good
feel
for
what
the
time
commitment
would
be.
K
That's
that's
an
area
of
of
some
concern
in
a
financially
strapped
moment
in
history.
If
it's
de
minimis,
you
know
that
concern
goes
away.
If
it's
substantial,
I
would
have
a
little
more
concern
about
it.
You
know
I
I
understand
the
impatience
with
this.
K
One
speaker
basically
said
just
do
it
and
that's
a
great
sports
slogan,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
a
a
good
methodology
for
governance,
and
I
would
want
to
be
a
little
more
measured
than
sort
of
just
doing
it.
K
So
I'd
like
to
know,
what's
going
to
be
involved
in
terms
of
extra
expenses,
I'd
like
to
get
some
resolution
on
some
of
these
questions
and
issues
and
I'll
get
a
better
feel
for
exactly
what
it
is,
we're
proving
and
having
said
that,
I'm
still,
ultimately,
you
know
prepared
to
have
this
go
in
front
of
the
voters
of
boulder
and
they
will
decide
whether
they
wish
to
tax
themselves
for
the
library
they
very
well
might
it's
possible.
K
A
BU
Yes,
in
the
beginning,
there
really
isn't
a
lot
of
cost,
because
the
iga
is
mostly
conceptual
dealing
with
how
a
transition
would
take
place
once
the
funding
is
approved,
and
then
that
allows
you
to
have
something
that
you
can
campaign
on,
because
you've
got
it
pinned
down
where
the
real
cost
for
the
city
would
come
in
would
be
later,
when
you're
going
to
need
legal
work
to
transition
assets
and
employees
and
all
of
those
things,
but
that
wouldn't
be
until
after
there's
a
successful
election.
K
A
Right
but
wouldn't
we
need
to
have
a
plan
for
that
transition
because,
as
I
look
at
the
option,
a
or
option
b,
there's
a
para
piece
of
this:
the
public,
employee
retirement
association.
So
wouldn't
some
of
these
financial
and
personnel
items
need
to
be
known
before
the
taper
vote.
BU
Yes,
in
a
conceptual
way,
though,
so
what
it
would
say
about
the
employees
is
that
the
library
district
is
going
to
hire
that
the
city
is
going
to,
let
all
the
library
employees
go.
The
district
is
going
to
hire
them.
You
already
know
what
the
cost
of
that
is
in
terms
of
what
the
district
needs
to
know
and
it
will
take
over
and
utilize
pera,
and
you
already
know
what
that
cost
is.
So
on
the
district
side.
They
know
what
the
expenses
are
on
your
side.
You
know
what
you're
moving
away
from
your
your
finances.
B
BU
Yep,
it
usually
takes
longer
because
you've
got
you
take
some
time
to
inventory
all
the
different
assets
inventory
the
employees
and
include
that
in
the
iga,
a
list
of
exactly
what
you're
dealing
with
and
mostly
that's
so
that
you,
as
the
city
council,
know
what
you're
transitioning
so
that
you
can
determine
how
you
want
to
do
it.
Is
it
a
dollar
a
year?
Is
it
a
fair
market
value?
Is
it
a
sale
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
not
a
lot?
There's
some
back
and
forth
to
you.
BU
A
BU
A
And
then
I've
lost
my
thought:
we
got
two
more
folks
rachel
and
then
erin.
AE
Just
a
couple
thoughts
on
the
you
know,
dollars
and
cents
of
forming
this
and
getting
to
an
agreement.
It
seems
that
we
always
hear
that
staff
time
is
kind
of
stretched
thin.
AE
So
I
I
wonder,
might
there
be
outsourcing
regardless
of
what
months
we
we
choose
to
do
this,
like
I
know,
and
it's
sort
of
routine
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
we're
already
planning
at
the
subcommittee
level,
at
least
for
or
discussing
that
there
will
be
some
outsourcing
just
due
to
to
people
coming
and
going
so
I
I
guess
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
that's
a
huge
deal
and
I
would
welcome
feedback
from
staff
on
like
is
that
abnormal?
Is
that
a
huge
concern?
AE
Is
it
possible
that
if
you
got
to
this
in
january
of
2022
you'd
still
need
some
extra
help
and
then
also
would
note
that
time
is
also
staff
money?
So
if
we
decide
to
revisit
this
again
and
slow
it
down
and
have
three
more
meetings
like
tonight's,
that's
also
eating
staff
time,
and
that
does
cost
our
organization
real
dollars
and
it
costs
again
the
community
staff
and
us
all
a
lot
of
time.
F
I
just
wanted
to
mark,
if
you
don't
mind,
just
offer
a
couple
of
follow-up
thoughts
to
you
to
your
points.
I
I
think
one
of
those
unit,
I
think
all
the
options
in
front
of
us
involve
a
taber
voted
in
2022.
I
think
I
heard
pretty
clearly
from
staff
in
the
memo
that
that
we
could
start
the
overall
process
earlier
rather
than
later,
but
that
we
would
still
need
to
wait
until
2022
to
put
a
vote
to
the
people.
So
david
wright,
I
mean
that's.
All
our
options
include
20
22
voted.
AN
F
Yeah
thanks
mark
so
so
yeah
so
starting
earlier,
doesn't
mean
a
2021
vote
for
for
taxes
anyway.
So
we
can
start
earlier
on
on
that
side
and
and
just
that
I
agree
that
there
there
are
a
lot
of
details
that
need
to
be
worked
out,
and
that
would
be
what
the
iga
process
development
process
would.
Hammer
out
right,
there'd
be
a
a
subcommittee
that
would
work
that
through
and
then
it
would
be.
You
know,
subject
to
approval
of
council
as
a
whole,
so
we
totally
agree.
F
A
Mary,
your
hand
is
down.
Did
you
have
something
you
wanted?
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
I'll
just
weigh
in
here
briefly.
I
do
want
to
proceed
with
the
district
pathway.
I
am
more
inclined
to
go
with
option
b
than
option
a
when
I
look
at
what
this
council
needs
to
complete.
We
not
only
have
our
normal
budget
cycle,
which
will
be
especially
difficult
this
year
because
of
the
recovery
from
covet
and
the
uncertainty
about
our
projections.
A
What
kind
of
recovery
we're
going
to
have
so
we
have
the
budget
remaining
in
front
of
us
and
all
the
discussions
we
might
have
around
policing
and
homelessness.
That
would
go
with
that.
Then
we
have
the
funds
that
we've
got
from
the
american
rescue
plan
act
that
are
coming
in
that
we
are
just
beginning
to
start
to
wrap
our
heads
around
what
to
do.
A
There's
cu
south
if
we
intend
to
move
forward
with
that,
that's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
council
time,
a
lot
of
staff
time
and
a
lot
of
outreach,
and
when
I
look
at
two
of
the
three
of
these
and
potentially
the
third,
those
all
heavily
involve
finance
staff.
So
I'm
prepared
tonight
to
move
ahead
with
the
district
formation
pathway,
but
I'm
inclined
to
use
option
b
that
staff
has
proposed.
A
I
further
think
that
that
gives
us
the
time
and
the
space
to
do
a
good
job
rather
than
trying
to
rush
for
an
october
deadline,
which
is
an
odd
time
to
be
doing
it.
One
of
the
last
actions
this
council
would
take
would
be
to
form
a
district
that
this
council
will
then
not
weigh
in
on
at
least
not
the
folks
who
aren't
running
again
or
re-elected.
A
So
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
we
would
try
and
create
a
fire
drill
to
do
this
in
this
year,
when,
in
fact
the
vote
won't
be
till
2022
anyway.
So
if
we've
accepted
that
the
vote
won't
be
until
2022,
I
cannot
imagine
why
we
would
kick
this
whole
process
off
in
this
year.
I'd
also
say
that
the
community
culture
safety
tax,
we're
going
to
need
to
tee
that
up.
A
That
will
also
have
finance
folks
in,
and
it
will
take
a
significant
amount
of
council
time
to
set
that
up
and
and
move
it
forward
and
campaign
for
it.
If
that's
what
we
choose
to
do
so
when
I
look
at
everything
I
think
staff
has
given
us
quite
a
good
option
here,
which
is
option
b,
and
we
would
give
certainty
that
that's
the
pathway
that
we
are
directing
staff
to
prepare
for.
A
So
I
am
prepared
personally
to
support
the
district
formation
pathway,
but
on
the
option
b,
recommendation
by
staff
and
with
that,
let
me
see,
I
think,
it's
mark
and
then
nearby
mark
yeah.
K
I
would
also
be
prepared
to
move
down
the
path
towards
a
district.
There
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
support
for
it,
and
I
do
want
to
put
it
in
front
of
the
electorate
at
an
appropriate
moment
to
get
their
determination,
but
I
would
also
choose
option
b
in
terms
of
timing.
AM
I
just
want
to
be
clear
one
more
time
and
again,
maybe
for
me
or
maybe
for
people
who
are
watching
so
let's
say
we
went
with
b
and
this
is
for
staff.
I
guess
the
government
body
would
be
formed,
they
would
work
out
all
of
the
information
and
then
it
would
would
it
come
to
council
first
or
would
it
just
go
directly
to
the
voters
and
the
voters
could
then
vote
it
up
or
down.
AN
AN
So,
hopefully
we
would
kind
of
finish
up
the
community
conversation
about
kind
of
where
everybody's
landing
in
terms
of
the
district
in
the
summer
time
of
22.
You
would
pass
the
resolution
hopefully,
and
we
would
probably
have
a
pretty
good
plan
already
kind
of
laid
out
and
thereafter
we
would
we
would
as
part
of
as
part
after
the
resolution.
We
would
do
the
fda
or
appoint
the
board
of
directors
and
do
and
then
do
the
iga,
and
that
would
set
the
basis
for
the
tabor
election
in
the
fall
of
22.
AM
AN
It
pretty
well,
you
would
still
have
the
iga
and
you
still
may
have
kind
of
basically
a
district
that
has
no
assets
and
has
no
money,
and
that
kind
of
goes
to
how
many
times
in
the
you
know.
When
we
do
the
iga,
how
many
opportunities
would
you
give
the
district
to
go
back
to
the
voters,
because
they
could
go
back
to
the
voters
in
23
and
make
the
same
request?
AM
Okay,
so
what
I'm
ultimately
hearing
you
saying
where
I'm
trying
to
get
with
this
is
that
it
ultimately
is
up
to
the
residents
of
older,
whether
or
not
so
even
if
we
move
forward
tonight,
with
b
option
two
b,
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
residents
of
boulder
whether
or
not
they
vote
this
in
or
not
it's
not
council
doing.
This
is
that's
correct.
AN
AN
Well,
not
all
of
boulder
county,
the
you
know
the
proposed
district,
you
know
it
would
include
like
eat
on
the
eastern
side
would
be
kind
of
the
gun,
barrel
nywot
area,
and
then
it
would
go
up
into
the
mountains
and
then
at
some
point
you
hit
the
boundary
for
the
netherland
library
district.
So
we
would
kind
of
be
everything
in
between.
AM
J
Thanks
sam,
so
I'm
inclined
to
move
forward
with
the
district
path
as
well
and
to
support
option
b
for
all
of
the
reasons
that
sam
mentioned
in
the
context
of
everything
that's
already
going
on,
and
I've
been
on
council
long
enough
to
know
that
when
you
bombard
the
community
with
way
too
many
things,
there's
just
there's
just
so
much
bandwidth
that
people
can
put
their
attention
towards.
So
so
that's
one
thing.
J
I
think
it
would
be
advantageous
in
terms
of
getting
a
read
on
a
broader
slice
of
the
potential
electorate
on
how
they
feel
about
the
district
and
and
doing
that
outreach
and
getting
a
better
read
on
that
prior
to
forming
the
district.
So
I
also
one
of
the
speakers
spoke
about
longmont
forming
a
district.
Perhaps
there
is
some
advantage
to
having
a
little
more
time
to
have
some
conversations
there
and
you
know
backing
up
just
a
little
bit
about
the
outreach.
J
J
The
space
on
their
work
plan
to
do
it
as
early
as
option
a
proposed
is
that
something
I'm
making
up,
or
did
I
hear
something?
Could
somebody
just
help
me
out
on
that?
One.
BV
J
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
In
any
case,
I
think
that
we
would
be
better
off
to
do
some
real
due
diligence
in
terms
of
formulating
the
iga
and,
and
primarily
you
know,
picking
the
committee
for
the
iga
process,
giving
ourselves
enough
time
and
thought
to
to
do
that
well
and
make
sure
that
we
have
a
really
good
group
of
people
working
on
it.
So
that's
another
piece
of
it.
So,
for
all
those
reasons
I
would
go
with
option
b.
E
Exactly
where
mary
and
sam
and
mark
are
on
this,
I
think
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
community
outreach
engagement
to
do
and
on
top
of
the
laundry
list
of
big
things
that
sam
mentioned,
we
also
have
one
or
two
pretty
big
site
reviews
that
are
coming
down
the
road
and
we
still
have
to
wrap
up
community
benefit
and
we
still
have
use
tables
to
do
so.
We
have
a
very
busy
five
months
remaining.
E
I
just
don't
see
how
we
could
jam
this
decision
in,
or
at
least
do
it
justice
in
between
now
and
october.
I'm
not
sam
said,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
magic
of
october
is,
if
we're
not
going
to
put
this
to
the
voters
until
november
2022
at
the
earliest.
So
I
think
we
should
do
the
type
of
engagement
that
mary
talked
about,
and
I
would
actually
take
it
a
step
further.
E
I
would
like
to
see
I
I'm
not
sure
if
I'd
be
hard
to
know
how
I'll
feel
in
six
or
nine
months
when
this
comes
back
to
us.
But
I'd
like
to
see
you
know,
council,
at
the
the
moment
of
formation,
actually
have
a
form
of
iga
that's
presented.
I
wouldn't
want
to
just
appoint
some
people
as
trustees
and
then
hope
that
we
could
reach
agreement
and
find
out.
There
were
two
ships
passing
in
the
night
under
some
sort
of
90
degree
shot
a
90-day
shot
clock.
E
I
would
actually,
at
the
moment
of
formation,
actually
have
council's
preferred
substance
of
an
iga
on
the
table
and
say:
hey
dear
trustees,
you're
hereby
appointed.
This
is
the
iga
we
would
accept.
We
can
talk
about
the
margins,
but
this
is
what
we
would
want,
and
it
may
be
some
of
the
things
that
that
mark
talked
about,
and
maybe
some
other
things,
but
I
would
want
the
iga
to
be
kind
of
effectively
pre-approved
by
council
and
the
community,
and
then
the
trustees
can
look
at
it
and
say
yeah.
E
We
can
live
with
this
or
no
we
can't,
rather
than
just
leaving
it
to
an
open-ended
negotiation.
But
I
I
agree
with
with
the
previous
speakers.
I
think
the
plan
b
on
the
on
the
alternative
timeline
that
david
laid
out
makes
the
most
sense.
AG
Yeah,
I
also
agree-
it
seemed
her
best
recall
in
our
meeting
last
february
that
this
is
the
approach
we
were
sort
of
reaching
consensus
on.
So
I
think
it's
good
we
follow
through
with
that
plus.
I
do
think
we
need
the
extra
time
and
to
keep
with
council
tradition.
I
think
we
just
have
to
make
sure
the
next
two
years
of
work
plan
already
decided
before
the
next
council
even
gets
voted
in,
so
that
just
you
know,
seems
to
happen
each
council.
So
why
not
keep
it
going.
AQ
Well,
I
think
at
this
time
I
already
see
where
we
are
heading
when
it
comes
to
b
I
mean
I
would
have
preferred
a,
but
I
see
that
the
will
of
council
is
for
b.
AQ
The
only
thing
is
what,
if
it's
gonna
be
a
new
council,
they
might
decide
not
to
go
any
further
and
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
time
wasted.
So
I
would
have
preferred
just
putting
it
to
the
ballot,
create
a
valid
measure
for
voter
approval
and
I
think
as
well
when
I
think
of
community
outreach.
AQ
I
think
a
ballot
measure
as
well
serve
as
a
level
of
community
outreach.
It's
either
it's
past
or
it's
not
because
people
choose
not
to
vote
it
in.
So
it
is
what
it
is
that
we
will
be
moving
with
b,
but
I
hope
that
it
works.
I
think
the
library
districting
is
very
important
and
I
think
just
hearing
from
community
members-
and
I
remember
you
know
there
was
a
time
where
I
didn't
have
a
job
and
I
worked
at
the
library
as
a
volunteer.
AQ
AM
So
I'm
along
the
same
lines
as
juni
as
I
would
have
preferred
to
go
with
option
a,
but
I
think
david
has
at
least
put
my
concerns
to
rest
and
knowing
that
the
voters
ultimately
will
get
to
decide.
That's
really
where
I
wanted
to
go
with
this.
I
didn't
think
it
should
be
something
that
council
made
that
decision
on,
because
this
is
such
a
big
decision.
I
I
hope
that
we
keep
the
asset
of
the
library
within
our
control,
meaning
renting
it
out.
AM
I
would
not
ever
support
it
in
any
other
option
with
it
being
a
district,
but
I
I
think
it's.
I
just
think
it's
something
that
it's
so
important
to
boulder
that
to
relinquish
control
is
inconceivable
to
me.
So
I
I
guess
I
can
go
with
the
will
of
counsel
for
option
to
be.
L
AE
Just
a
question
I
think
I'm
maybe
more
optimistic
and
that
things
don't
always
have
to
be
as
slow
as
as
we
plan
them
to
be,
and
I
appreciate
like
mary's
point
that
you
know
you
don't
want
to
rush
things
and
I
get
that,
but
what
if
staff
gets
into
this
and
they're
like?
Oh
no,
this
is
much
faster
than
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
like
we
can
just
move
through
this
dude.
Do
they
have
to
go
slow
or
by
saying
option
b?
AE
B
AN
Well,
I
think
you
know,
I
guess
anything
is
possible,
I'll
just
start
with
that,
but
you
know
the
way
that
we
laid
it
out
in
the
memo.
Was
we
laid
it
out
as
a
series
of
work
tasks
that
we
would
do
and
really
it's
a
difference
in
how
we
engage
the
community
with
option
b?
AN
You
know
the
second
option:
option
b,
it's
there's
more
engagement
before
you
actually
form
the
district,
so
I
think
that
you
know
with
that
being
the
case,
my
hope
would
be
that
it
will
make
everything
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
what
council
member
yates
said
after
you
form
after
you
take
the
you
know,
you
pass
the
resolution
to
form
the
district
that
it
will
make
everything
after
that
go
much
faster
and
hopefully
with
much
more
consensus.
AR
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
clarifying
question.
I
because
I,
from
your
study
session
on
february
27th,
there
seemed
to
be
consensus
from
council
that
they
wanted
to
begin
the
discussion
about
what
the
contents
of
the
iga
would
be,
and
I
believe
that
came
from
you,
mayor,
weaver,
that
you
wanted
to
have
knowledge
in
advance
and
bob
yates,
counselor,
yates,
kind
of
seconded
that,
and
then
just
now
mentioned
additionally
wanting
to
know.
So.
Is
it
your?
Is
it
your
instruction
to
the
staff?
AR
Do
you?
I
guess
this
counseling
informed
that
committee
and
for
staff
to
begin
working
on
a
draft
of
an
iga
which
would
then
be
you
know,
wrapped
from
the
city,
because
you
know
february
27th.
AR
The
discussion
was
forming
a
committee
of
people
who
would
responsibly
represent
the
interest
of
city
council,
the
interest
of
the
library,
the
interest
of
all
these
different
groups,
and
I'm
wondering
if
you're,
instructing
us
to
begin
that
work
in
2021
or
to
wait
for
that
work
to
2022,
because,
as
david
has
pointed
out
multiple
times,
I
think
that
crunches
our
timeline
again
right.
So
if
you
go
back
to
waiting
entirely
to
2022
we're
going
to
be
crunched
with
a
timeline
to
get
a
ballot
measure
in
place
and
an
iga
if
we
haven't
begun
that
discussion.
A
So
david,
just
in
a
colloquy
to
your
question,
I
I
was
just
looking
at
option
b
as
presented
by
staff
and
option
b
is
presented
by
staff.
Has
that
iga
process
committee
put
together
in
december
of
21,
presumably
after
the
new
council's
seeded,
I
suppose
there's
a
hybrid
between
a
and
b,
because
a
has
that
iga
process
committee
put
together
in
june.
A
I
suppose
we
could
do
something
in
between,
but
I
was
just
going
with
the
staff
outline
when
I
suggested
option
b,
which
would
have
that
iga
committee
seated
december
21,
and
then
it
would
have
seven
months
as
as
I
read,
it
would
have
seven
months
at
least
to
get
that
iga
to
the
point.
People
would
vote
on
it.
So
that's
only
if
I'm
reading
the
staff
recommendation
correctly.
A
AR
A
AR
A
Great
hang
on
just
one
sec,
aaron
and
then
mary
aaron.
F
F
Yeah,
okay,
because
I'm
just
so
confused
because
option
a
it
actually
involves
a
longer
time
frame,
but
anyway
I
I
I
hear
that
the
the
will
of
council
is
to
to
do
the
kind
of
option
b
time
frame
and
like
we
can
work
with
that.
I
appreciate
essentially
consensus
on
moving
the
district
direction.
I
think
that's
fantastic.
F
You
know
this
year,
but
if
we
could
lay
some
of
the
groundwork
for
what
an
iga
might
look
like,
you
know,
and
not
kind
of
start,
do
a
standing
start
in
december
sometime
right
before
the
holidays,
I
think
we
might
give
ourselves
a
little
bit
more
room
for
a
you
know,
a
roomier
timetable
in
2022,
so
hearing
that
there's
no
kind
of
100
web
to
exactly
option
air
option
b.
I
just
suggest
that
we
get
a
bit
more
of
a
start
in
2021.
AN
And-
and
we
can
do
that-
I
mean
this-
it's
a
guideline.
You
know.
I
think
that
really
I
think
that
the
option
b
is
more
about
when
you
do.
When
you
do
the
resolution,
what
we
do
beforehand,
we
can
start
that
earlier
and
in
fact,
part
of
part
of
the
intent
of
just
putting
together
sample
igas
and
resolutions
that
are
in
the
packet
tonight
was
to
start
that
cut.
You
know
really
to
start
that
conversation.
AK
J
Yeah
thanks
erin,
that's
that's
a
good
segue
into
a
proposal
I
wanted
to
make,
and
so
my
proposal
is
is
that
we
form
the
committee
in
the
october
time
frame
and
that
we
take
our
time
forming
the
committee.
Then
we
would
have
this
council
appointing
that
committee
and
they
could
get
going.
J
A
Yeah
and
mary,
I
just
want
to
call
a
queen
and
agree.
I
like
the
idea
of
seating,
the
iga
committee,
because
it
does
demonstrate
that
this
council,
you
know
we're
not
just
saying
it
and
then
punting
it
to
another
council,
we're
starting
the
process
within
this
council.
So
I
I
think,
that's
a
helpful
suggestion
and-
and
it's
like
along
the
lines
of
what
aaron
said
as
well,
so
I
I'd
be
happy
with
a
hybrid
of
that
sort.
A
I
think
it's
a
good
idea,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
magic
about
october,
maybe
september
would
work
as
well
just
something
you
know
after
the
break
after
we
get
back
and
once
we've
got
our
feet
under
us
with
all
the
things
we
have
to
do,
maybe
we
can
then,
as
councils
say
when
we
want
to
recruit
and
seat
that
committee,
but
I
agree.
I
think
that
would
be
good
to
do
on
this
council
to
see
that
committee.
J
I
suggested
october
because
I
was
thinking
september-
is
when
we're
talking
about
budget.
We
start
having
the
budget
conversations
and
there's
going
to
be
some
tough
conversations
around
that,
as
well
as
all
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned.
There's
cu
south
there's
the
the
site
reviews
there's
the
community
benefit,
there's
the
use
tables
all
of
that
stuff,
and
we
can
hopefully
get
the
majority
of
that
stuff
out
of
the
way
and
then
in
october
have
some
space
and
then
you
know,
maybe
staff
spends
a
little
bit
of
time.
K
Mark
yeah
for
all
the
people
who
participated
tonight.
I
hope
you
will
see
that
the
takeaway
tonight
is
is
not
that
we
did
not
pass
a
resolution
this
evening.
K
But,
as
I
look
at
it,
all
nine
members
of
council
have
indicated
a
willingness
to
go
down
the
path
of
creating
a
library
district
and
putting
that
in
front
of
the
voters
of
boulder,
and
so
you
know
I
I
hope,
people
who
are
participating
tonight
and
listening
will
not
think
that
this
is
somehow
punting
it
down
the
road.
K
It's
simply
a
reflection
of
the
workload
that
staff
has
and
that
we
have
between
now
and
the
next
council
and
we're
fairly
heavily
burdened,
as
is,
but
every
member
of
this
council
has
expressed
a
willingness
to
move
down
that
path,
and
I
think
that
should
be
the
primary
takeaway
from
this
evening's
conversation.
K
A
Very
good,
thank
you,
so
I
would
invite
emotion,
maybe
mary
or
aaron
would
like
to
make
it
that
synthesizes,
the
discussion
we've
just
had,
and
maybe
we
can
move
ahead.
I
will
just
point
out
mark
to
your
point
and
to
an
earlier
question
I
asked
there
was
no
idea
that
tonight
we
would
pass
a
resolution
that
would
form
a
district
that
was
not
in
front
of
us.
It
wasn't
a
staff
recommendation.
A
It
was
just
that
we
pick
a
pathway
if
we
want
to
go
in
that
direction
and
give
staff
direction
about
a
schedule.
So
just
for
what
it's
worth,
I
don't
think
we
were
ever
likely
to
pass
a
district
formation
resolution
tonight
just
to
launch
a
work
plan.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
to
people
listening
as
well,
but.
K
Just
to
colloquy
on
that,
it's
that
we
were
getting
a
number
of
comments
that
were
basically
suggesting
to
us
that
we
act
now
act
immediately
and
yes,
I
understand
that
was
not
in
contemplation
for
us,
but
at
the
extent
that
people
have
made
those
comments
and
feel
disappointed
that
we
did
not
act.
I
think
there's
good
reason
for
that,
in
addition
to
it
not
being
part
of
the
the
scope
of
what
we
were
going
to
do
this
evening,
all
right.
E
Bob
yeah,
as
long
as
we're
clarifying
you
know
why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing,
while
all
the
speakers
tonight
were.
I
think
all
the
speakers
tonight
were
advocating
for
a
library
formation
of
a
library.
E
District
community
should
also
know
that
we
received
a
few
dozen
emails
from
people
in
the
community
who
were
opposed,
so
I
would
say
that
the
emails
were
probably
two
to
one
or
three
to
one
in
favor,
so
there
was
certainly
a
a
more
people
that
contacted
us,
either
in
writing
or
or
this
evening
who
were
in
favor
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
an
absence
of
opposition.
It
was
a
significant
number
of
people.
I
think
those
are
the
people
that
we
want
to
hear
from.
E
In
addition
to
the
proponents
under
the
community
engagement
that
mary
was
talking
about,
I
think
we
want
to
open
it
up
and
listen
to
everybody
in
the
community
and
not
limit
it
to
those
people
having
to
speak
at
a
public
hearing
on
a
particular
night.
AN
It
should
be
on
the
motion
page
on
page
two
of
the
memo.
If
you're
looking
for
the
district
one,
it
is
it's.
J
The
first
one
yeah,
oh
okay,
sorry
about
that
I
was-
I
was
thinking
back
on
the
slide,
but
all
right
so
erase
what
I
just
said
strike
that
from
the
record
or
whatever.
So
I
move
that
we
direct
staff
to
begin
the
work
to
form
a
library
district
by
city
council
resolution,
using
option
b
as
the
main
work
plan
schedule,
with
the
formation
of
with
the
exception
of
a
formation
for
the
process
committee
in
october
of
2021.
A
Okay,
emotion
and
the
second,
if
it's
okay,
rachel
and
aaron
I'll,
let
mary
speak
to
her
motion
and
then
go
to
you
mary.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
motion.
J
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
this
is
the
right
way
to
go.
I
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
conduct
more
outreach.
That
is
a
little
bit
more
widespread.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
outreach
has
mainly
focused
within
the
city
of
boulder,
so
we
need
to
reach
out
to
the
broader
community
that
the
district
would
consist
of.
So
that's
an
important
piece.
J
I
think
also
that
to
go
with
the
shorter
time
frame
would
put
a
lot
of
pressure,
not
just
on
staff,
especially
finance
staff,
but
on
council
as
well
our
schedules,
our
our
meetings,
are
pretty
packed
already
with
a
lot
of
stuff
that
we
need
to
get
done
in
this
council,
and
so
I
see
forming
the
process
committee
as
a
kind
of
hybrid
way
forward.
AE
Well,
so
I
didn't
realize
I'd
be
like
going
after
the
motion
and
was
more
responding
to
mark
wallach's
last
statement
about
you
know:
community
members
and
people
who
maybe
didn't
understand
what
we
were
doing
tonight
and
and
that
we
weren't
really
teed
up
to
form
a
district
by
resolution.
I
also
said
that,
and
so
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I
wasn't
misinformed
or
under-informed
or
saying
that
accidentally.
AE
You
know
I
requested
in
february
that
we
receive
a
staff
recommendation
on
this
on
whether
staff
wanted
us
to
form
a
district
by
resolution,
and
we
didn't
get
a
recommendation.
I
don't
know
if
staff
couldn't
do
that
or
what
that
was
about,
but
given
that
we
didn't
have
a
specific
recommendation,
it
was
entirely
within
the
scope
of
possibility
for
tonight
to
have
that
vote.
AE
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
and
we
did
have
a
public
hearing
and-
and
it
would
have
been
a
very
fair
thing
to
vote
on
tonight
and
also
just
to
clarify.
I
have
not
received
dozens
of
emails
opposing
this.
I
saw
a
handful
I
feel
like
in
the
last
day
or
two,
but
that
doesn't
so
just
want
to
clarify
those
points,
and
I
will
support
I'm
glad
that
we're
moving
forward
with
this
and
and
hopefully
not
creating
too
much
delay
so
we'll
be
supporting
mary's
motion.
F
Aaron
yeah,
oh,
I
just
wanted
to
address
the
the
email
question.
I
did
a
real,
quick
search
on
on
district
and
in
my
council
email
box,
but
I
think
maybe
there
was
maybe
12
or
15
in
opposition.
I
did
a
quick
count
of
maybe
80
in
supports.
I
think
it
was
a
little
more
a
little
more
skewed
about
than
maybe,
but
we
we
could
get.
We
could
do
a
an
official
count.
F
Maybe
definitely
had
some
opposition,
but
I
think
it
was
definitely
more
skewed
in
sport
and
then
I
am
happy
to
support
the
motion.
I'm
really
glad
we're
moving
forward
with
the
library
district
and
I
look
forward
to
the
formation
of
that
committee
in
october.
K
Yeah
very
very
briefly,
I
obviously
support
mary's
motion.
I
I
think
it's
appropriate
for
staff,
given
their
constrained
resources
at
this
time,
but
I
also
think
it's
important
to
actually
get
the
show
on
the
road
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
doing
tonight
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
doing
that.
So
I
am
happy
to
vote
in
favor.
E
J
Now
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
also
add
that
one
of
the
two
of
the
emails
that
I
did
see
come
through
were
emails
that
were
asking
people
to
email
counsel
in
favor
of
the
library
district.
I
did
not
see
any
emails
that
were
going
out
to
people
to
vote,
not
in
favor
of
or
to
speak,
not
in
favor
of
the
library
district.
J
So
that
gives
me
a
little
bit
of
pause
that
there
has
been
encouragement
for
one
path
forward
and
doesn't
seem
to
be
encouragement
for
the
other
one,
not
to
say
that
there
is
or
there
isn't.
But
I
think
that
is
cause
enough
to
want
to
do
our
due
diligence
with
respect
to.
A
Outreach
good
and
before
I
call
for
a
vote,
I'm
just
going
to
make
one
small
comment:
I'm
glad
that
we're
moving
forward
with
this
we
may
as
well
get
the
iga
worked
out,
because
those
details
are
important
and
take
it
to
council
and
then
to
the
voters.
A
I
will
point
out
that
one
of
the
challenges
that
this
is
going
to
face
in
2022
will
be
a
likely
county
ballot
measure,
and
now
one
or
more
of
these
could
come
this
year,
but
I
do
know
that
the
county
has
got
at
least
three
ballot
measures
that
are
being
discussed,
one
around
mental
health
funding,
one
around
affordable
housing
and
one
around
transportation.
A
So
that's
just
kind
of
a
contextual
comment
that
there's
a
few
things
to
do
here:
get
the
iga
right
figure
out
what
the
city
is
going
to
do
as
far
as
assets
and
employees
and
the
transfer,
and
I
do
believe
that
there's
good
models
for
all
of
that.
But
then
the
next
part
of
this
is
getting
the
voters
to
weigh
in
on
taxing
themselves
and
it's
not
free
money.
A
With
that,
if
there
are
no
more
comments,
I
will
call
for
a
vote
on
mary's
motion.
Anyone
want
to
weigh
in
okay.
All
in
favor
of
the
motion
on
the
table
raise
your
hand.
It's
mine's
up
one
two
three,
it
is
unanimous
all
right.
Well,
congratulations!
Thank
you
staff.
Thank
you!
Both
david
farnand
and
david
gear
and
the
rest
of
staff
who
supported
this.
AN
First
of
all,
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
our
staff
team.
It
took
a
great
deal
of
coordination
to
bring
this
forward
to
you
this
evening,
and
I
I
would
also
just
like
to
thank
the
council
for
the
direction,
because
I
truly
do
believe
that
the
tweaks
and
modifications
that
you
made
to
the
work
plan
that
we
put
together
has
made
it
a
much
better
product.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
david.
Any
other
comments
from
council
before
we
close
this
item.
Okay,
with
that,
this
item
is
done,
alicia,
I
believe
we're
at
the
end.
Is
there
anything
else
we
have.
D
A
Okay,
very
good,
so
debrief
and
comment
adam.
AG
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
flag
something.
We
got
an
email
update
from
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
about
the
gun
barrel
iga
and
the
commenter
was
actually
correct
that
it
was
expiring
in
15
years,
not
20.
Jacob
lindsay
pointed
that
out.
So
that's
a
discussion
we'll
have
to
have
in
the
future
too,
very
good.
A
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
adam.
That's,
a
good
reminder.
Yep
jacob
did
by
email.
Let
us
know
that
he
was
mistaken
and
that
staff
will
be
coming
back
to
us
with
information
on
that.
So
thank
you
adam
for
that.
Aaron
thanks.
A
And
thanks
to
the
public
who
come
into
tonight,
both
at
open
comment
and
the
public
hearing,
your
passion
is
noted
and
we
appreciate
your
input
for
sure
with
that
I'll
gavel,
this
meeting
closed
at
11
26..
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time.
Everyone
have
a
good
evening.