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A
A
B
Of
the
Boulder
City
Council
we're
going
to
get
started
with
a
couple
of
announcements.
First
of
all,
is
about
what's
up
Boulder,
the
city
of
Boulder
invites
all
of
our
community
members
to
what's
up
Boulder
an
event
to
have
fun
and
chat
with
staff
about
current
and
future
plans
and
projects
across
the
city.
What's
up,
Boulder
will
take
place.
This
Sunday
from
1:
to
3:30
p.m.
at
Foothills,
Community
Park
in
North
Boulder
in
The
Pavilions
area,
come
join.
B
Us
is
for
family
activities,
free
entertainment
and
to
learn
more
about
your
local
government
and
what
could
be
more
exciting
than
that
and
our
other
announcement
is
about
the
better
public
meetings
project.
So
the
city
of
Boulder
is
partner
partnering
with
the
national
civic
league
on
a
nationwide
effort
to
make
Council
meetings
more
engaging
and
satisfying
for
everyone
who
participates
as
part
of
this
effort.
We
want
to
hear
about
your
experiences
with
our
meetings.
B
We
invite
community
members
who
are
either
in
person
or
online
for
Council
meetings
starting
tonight
and
running
through
our
December
7th
meeting
to
rate
your
experience.
Okay,
this
makes
me
nervous.
We
have
an
online
scorecard
that
takes
about
2
minutes
to
fill
out.
The
link
to
it
is
on
the
screen
now
and
for
the
online
audience
we're
putting
a
link
and
QR
code
in
the
chat
you
may
complete
the
scorecard
once
for
each
time
you
participate
in
a
council
meeting
over
the
next
3.
D
E
E
G
B
Thanks
so
much
Elicia,
so
first
item
of
business
I
would
request
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
remove
item
6B,
which
is
the
update
and
request
for
direction.
Regarding
the
intergovernmental
agreement
with
the
Boulder
Public
Library
District,
which
is
being
moved
to
the
September
14th
study
session.
F
B
All
right
we've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
raise
your
hands,
and
that
is
unanimous.
The
agenda
is
amended,
and
now
we
have
some
declarations
to
read,
starting
with
a
declaration
recognized
in
the
10th
anniversary
of
the
September
2013
flood
presented
by
council
member
friend.
I
Thank
you
mayor
is
anyone
here
to
receive
this
I?
Don't
think
so?
So,
if
not
I'm
just
going
to
stay
seated
hearing
nothing?
Okay,
it
is
my
honor
to
read
this
declaration
commemorating
10
years
since
the
2013
Front
Range
flood
today
on
September
7th
2023
from
September
11th
through
15th
2013,
the
Front
Range
region
received
more
than
18
inches
of
rain,
causing
flooding
loss
of
life
and
widespread
damage.
I
Boulder
County,
including
the
city
of
Boulder,
was
designated
a
federal
disaster
area
that
week,
the
region
received
more
rain
than
than
it
would
receive
in
a
typical
full
year,
with
Scientists
generally
agreeing
that
the
magnitude
of
rainfall
occurs
in
the
region
once
every
100
to
1,000
years,
the
floods
were
a
defining
moment
for
the
Boulder
Community.
We
experienced
tragic
losses
of
loved
ones
and
devastating
damage
to
property
and
infrastructure.
We
also
experienced
the
strength
of
our
community
as
we
as
we
came
together
to
help
each
other.
I
Recovery
is
a
multi-year
commitment
for
Boulder,
as
the
community
builds
back
stronger
and
more
resilient
than
before,
and
as
the
10year
commemoration
of
the
floods
near
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Boulder
extends
our
solidarity
and
support
to
those
who
were
lost
and
to
the
families
impacted,
as
well
as
our
gratitude
to
all
involved
in
the
response
and
Recovery.
Thank.
B
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Voting
is
the
Bedrock
of
our
democracy.
Without
it
we
would
not
be
free
and
both
our
city
and
our
country
would
not
be
able
to
function.
Having
a
say
in
your
future
is
a
basic
human
right
and
we
believe
that
it
should
be
accessible
and
protected
at
all
costs.
Centuries
of
tireless
work
have
expanded
voting
rights
and
access,
but
the
systems
for
participation
in
our
democracy
still
maintain
barriers
for
Access
or
simply
deny
many
members
of
our
community
their
right
to
vote.
G
Everyone
deserves
a
say
in
their
government
and,
and
it
is
up
to
us
to
make
sure
that
voting
is
a
universal
right
which
includes
exercising
the
right
to
vote
for
all
who
can,
while
the
United
States
as
a
whole
has
one
of
the
lowest
voting
rates
in
the
world.
The
state
of
Colorado
leads
the
nation
in
voter
turnout
and
Universal
mail
in
ballots.
According
to
ballotpedia
in
2020,
about
67%
of
eligible
voters
in
the
US
cast
their
ballot,
but
that
same
year
in
Colorado
there
was
a
76%
turnout.
G
Although
there
were
roughly
80
million
people
who
did
not
vote
that
year,
that
was
still
the
highest
voter
turnout
of
the
21st
century.
This
year,
the
city
of
Boulder
is
administering
inaugural
voting
methods
in
our
community.
Through
rank
Choice
voting
and
direct
election
of
the
mayor.
Our
voters
approved
this
change
in
2020
to
enhance
the
way
voters,
choices
are
counted.
We,
the
city
council
of
Boulder,
declare
September
19
2023
as
National
voting
registration
day
and
urge
all
community
members
to
take
recognition
of
this
event
and
participate
in
its
observance.
Thank
you.
J
Forwards
and
I
believe
we
have
Jenna
card
on
online
to
receive
it.
She's
the
executive
director
of
Rise
Against
suicide.
J
September
is
National
Suicide
Prevention
month
and
is
intended
to
promote
awareness
and
share
Suicide
Prevention
Resources,
with
the
goal
of
learning
how
to
help
those
around
us
and
how
to
talk
about
suicide
without
increasing
the
risk
of
harm.
Suicidal
Thoughts
can
affect
anyone
regardless
of
age,
gender,
race,
sexual
orientation,
income
level,
religion
or
background.
J
According
to
the
Center
for
Disease
Control,
each
year
more
than
41,000
people
die
from
suicide
nationally.
It
is
the
10th
leading
cause
of
death
among
adults
in
the
US
and
the
second
leading
cause
of
death
among
people
aged
10
to
24.
Not
only
does
suicide
tragically
take
lives,
but
it
is
also
devastating
to
its
victim's
loved
ones.
J
Local
organizations
like
Rise
Against
suicide,
are
on
the
front
lines
of
an
issue
that
may
feel
uncomfortable
discussing
due
to
the
taboo
surrounding
mental
illness,
and
suicide
rise
is
a
nonprofit
organization
that
funds
therapy
sessions
for
atrisk
youth
struggling
with
suicidal
ideation
in
the
Boulder
Valley
School
District
and
St
Vine
Valley
School
District.
The
fact
is
ignoring
conversations
like
these
perpetuates
the
stigma
against
mental
health
and
can
put
those
at
risk
in
Greater
danger
due
to
to
lack
of
support.
J
National
Suicide
Prevention
month
reminds
us
that
every
member
of
our
community
is
silently
facing
their
own
challenges.
The
coid
pandemic
created
additional
economic
stress
and
increased
social
isolation.
These
effects
continue
to
impact
many
in
our
community,
including
our
youth.
We
encourage
all
community
members
to
take
the
time
to
check
in
on
the
well-being
of
their
family,
friends
and
neighbors
and
to
offer
support.
J
It
can
be
hard
to
find
Hope
in
these
challenging
time
times,
but
luckily
hope
is
contagious.
A
simple
phone
call
message
greeting
or
hug
can
be
enough
to
change
someone's
day
and
could
save
a
life.
We,
the
city
council
of
Boulder
Colorado,
declare
September
203
2023
as
National
Suicide
Prevention
month,
and
urge
all
community
members
to
take
cognizance
of
this
event
and
participate
fittingly
in
its
observance.
Thank
you.
J
K
Sure
thank
you,
Lauren,
and,
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
this
honor
and
it
really
does
touch
my
my
heart
that
people
in
the
city
recognize
the
challenge
that
our
kiddos
are
having
right
now
and
you're
right
Lauren,
it's
not
just
the
kiddos,
it's
many
people
in
general
and
they
lack
the
resources
when
they're,
suicidal
and
I'm
really
grateful
that
the
community
has
come
together
to
support
Rise
Against
suicide,
because
we
can't
do
this
alone.
We
can't
help
save
these
children's
lives
really
alone.
K
L
Guidelines
sure
thing
thank
you.
My
name
is
Ryan
Hansen
serving
the
people
of
Boulder
as
Community
engagement
manager,
and
we
have
slides
that
are
coming
up
and
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone
here
knows
that
the
city
has
engaged
with
community
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,
meaningful
and
inclusive
Civ
conversations.
This
Vision
supports
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
community
members
staff
and
Council,
as
well
as
democracy
for
people
of
all
ages,
identities,
lived
experiences
and
political
perspectives.
L
There's
more
information
on
this
vision
and
the
city's
web
page
and
a
few
examples
moving
to
the
next
slide
of
rules
of
decorum
found
in
the
boulder
rised
code
include
all
remarks
and
testimonies
shall
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
City
business.
No
participant
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,
obscenity,
racial
EPs
and
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
meeting
are
prohibited.
L
Participants
sign
up
to
speak
using
the
name
they
are
commonly
known
by
in
sharing
your
full
name
when
speaking
online.
Currently,
only
audio
testimony
is
permitted
online
and
then
inperson
participants
in
council
chambers
are
asked
to
refrain
from
expressing
support
or
disagreement
verbally
or
with
Applause,
with
the
exception
of
support
for
declarations.
Traditionally,
support
is
shown
silently
through
American,
Sign,
Language,
Applause
or
jazz
hands.
Thank
you
for
being
here
tonight
to
share
your
input
and
your
perspectives.
We
appreciate
your
participation.
Thank.
B
You
thanks
for
that
Ryan
all
right,
we've
got.
Eight
people
signed
up
to
speak
in
person
and
and
one
remote
each
of
you
will
have
2
minutes
to
speak.
If
you
can
just
please
come
up
a
little
bit
before
your
turn
comes
up,
so
our
first
three
speakers
are
Michaela
Galler,
Michelle,
Rodriguez
and
Phoenix.
M
Lou
hi,
my
name
is
Michaela
Galler
and
I'm,
a
17-year-old
high
school
student
and
I
implore
you
to
reconsider
the
per
proposal
to
close
Boulder
airport.
Many
often
underestimate
the
significance
of
the
smaller
airports
like
Boulder
within
the
the
broader
Aviation
Community,
what
commonly
escapes
the
notice
in
The
crucial
role,
airports
like
Boulder
play
in
addressing
in
the
ongoing
pilot
shortage,
while
some
may
believe
there
are
alternative,
Flight
Training
options
in
the
local
area.
They
often
fail
to
recognize
Boulder's
unique
advantages
in
Boulder.
M
You
can
access
single
engine
training
at
much
as
a
more
affordable
rate
compared
to
other
nearb
airports,
mainly
because
there
is
no
need
to
acquire
expenses
expenses
while
waiting
on
the
taxi
rate
for
extended
periods
of
time.
Additionally,
kbd
provides
the
added
benefit
of
glider
training,
further
enhancing
the
appeal
as
a
valuable
asset
in
aviation
education,
like
so
many
Pilots
kbu,
has
been
the
foundation
of
my
Aviation
Journey.
M
As
a
bonus,
I
was
able
to
get
a
discount
on
my
flights,
enabling
me
to
finish
my
private
pilot's
license
with
a
glider
rating
and
have
money
returned
to
the
flight
scholarships
for
future
glider
Pilots.
Closing
kbu
would
not
only
deprive
current
and
new
pilots
of
important
place
to
learn
and
train,
but
it
would
also
take
away
the
vibrant
and
supportive
community
that
has
been
in
instrumental
for
many
other
in
my
personal
path.
M
B
Thank
you.
Michael
I
really
appreciate
that.
It's
rare
that
we
see
people
under
20
come
and
testify
to
us,
so
really
appreciate
you,
you
taking
the
time
and
speaking
so
eloquently.
M
N
A
N
First
I
wanted
to
congratulate
the
police
department
on
all
the
reform
and
chief
Herold.
The
accomplishment
you
made
your
anniversary
of
your
announcement
of
Reform
is
on
the
same
day
of
my
anniversary
of
my
Rodriguez
versus
Lola
Tha.
N
That
being
said,
I'm
also
so
grateful
for
the
new
police
monitor,
that's
being
accepted
in
and
I
I
need
to
address.
Some
things
haven't
been
unable
to
get
in
touch
with
you,
but
today
officer
styman
told
me:
I
could
email
Nuria,
but
I've
got
her
on
speed,
dial,
so
I
figured
officer,
styman
was
subject
of
of
some
concerns:
I
F
back
before
the
last
police,
monitor,
left
and
and
you're.
Aware
of
that,
because
I
have
spok
on
that
have
concerns
about
some
very
serious
things.
N
But
today
he
told
me
I
filed
frivolous
reports
against
him
working
in
the
community
with
the
Outreach
most
recently
and
being
forly
from
the
homeless
crowd.
I
have
big
concerns.
Having
my
lawsuit
haven't,
been
dropped
and
stuff
I'm
very
respectfully,
requesting
that
this
new
police
monitor
review.
Those
I
do
happen
to
have
a
couple
of
names
of
some
very
awesome
officers
that
I
spoke
with.
Today,
though,
I'd
like
to
recognize
David,
Kaufman,
T,
mcqueeny
and
John,
howy
I,
haven't
had
the
privilege
of
being
before
them.
N
They
were
witness
to
some
things,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I'm
I'm,
very
excited
about
the
reform
and
I
support
it
and
it
needs
to
continue
in
its
best
proximity
and,
if
there's
anything,
I'm,
doing
inappropriate,
I
want
to
be
held
accountable
and
if
there's
anything,
they're
doing
I'd
like
the
same
to
occur
and
I
appreciate
you
guys
hearing
me
and
you
know:
I,
don't
just
throw
you
emails
just
on
the
random
and
I.
Try
really
hard
not
to
speak
out
of
line
and
be
out
of
character,
and
you
guys
know.
O
Phoenix?
U,
I
was
particularly
interested
in
the
last
time
that
I
came
for
open
comment
and
wanted
to
speak
about
some
things
that
came
up
for
me.
Sorry
wanted
to
speak
about
some
things
that
came
up
for
me,
one
being
with
the
minimum
wage
increase
my
interest
in
ways
that
we
could
get
people
to
step
into
more
responsibility
and
stewardship
of
that
money
within
the
Boulder
City
Limits.
O
Instead
of
of
the
I
think
status
quo,
which
is
just
make
your
money
and
go
and
with
that
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way
for
businesses
to
be
able
to
make
enough
money
to
maintain
their
rent
while
not
having
to
up
their
prices
in
the
face
of
further
inflation,
so
with
a
wage
increase.
Would
that
also
mean
that
businesses
increase
with
pricing
and
then,
as
for
the
50-50
allotment
I,
was
thinking
that
to
us?
O
It
may
look
as
though
there's
a
split
between
the
two
and
it's
very
black
and
white,
but
I
wonder
if
the
heads
of
these
organizations
could
come
together
as
their
own
sort
of
council,
because
a
lot
of
the
members
that
I
saw
speaking
from
Human
Resources
I
think
could
come
together
with
members
who
are
heads
of
the
arts
department,
and
so
then
the
5050
is
no
longer
split.
O
It's
then
creates
a
bridge
between
those
two
things,
and
so
people
in
the
arts
district
may
be
able
to
receive
human
resources
or
general
funding
that
they
may
need,
and
vice
versa,
those
in
Human
Resources
who
might
be
artists
and
don't
know
how
to
explore
their
passions,
could
then
get
access
to
deeper
exploration
and
refinement
of
their
skills
and
unique
gifts.
So
those
were
some
ideas
and
visions
that
came
to
me
and
I
wanted
to
share.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
P
Sorry
there
you
go
is
that
okay,
okay,
Lisa
spaling
represent
pres
ing
the
University
Hill
neighborhood
association
executive
committee.
When
we
were
reading
the
evening's
agenda,
we
noticed
an
item
that
will
impact
the
hill
and
decided
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
get
ahead
of
it
by
speaking
to
you
now,
item
C
on
the
consent
agenda
refers
to
a
summary
of
the
study
session
on
the
hill
commercial
area.
Revitalist,
you
have
to
bring
the
down
revitalization
update.
We
were
taken
by
surprised
when
removing
the
special
liquor
license.
P
Regulations
featured
prominently
in
this
revitalization
update.
No
one
even
asked
the
neighbors
or
former
council
members
who
worked
for
a
year
on
those
regulations
why
they
were
instituted.
We
were
aware
of
the
fact
that
the
planning
department
wanted
to
remove
the
regulations
in
its
use
table,
update
to
make
their
job
easier
and
followed
the
update
when
it
was
presented
to
the
planning
board.
P
The
board
was
surprised
that
the
proposal
was
made
without
a
full
conversation
with
theill
neighborhood
and
unanimously
recommended,
leaving
the
regulations
in
place
until
they
could
be
fully
dealt
with
as
a
separate
work
plan.
The
Ed
table
update
will
come
before
you
for
first
reading,
October
19th
and
a
public
hearing
and
vote
on
November
2nd.
Those
of
us
who
worked
on
the
regulations
in
2013
had
firsthand
experience
with
the
hill
when
there
were
17
liquor,
licenses,
bars,
open
and
2
a.m.
with
a
high
volume,
low
price
business
model
and
violent
bar
fights.
P
We
are
at
a
crucial
turning
point
for
the
hill
business
district
and
everyone
is
hoping
that
the
hill
hotel
and
the
CU
Conference
Center
will
help
to
revitalize
it.
Abandoning
these
regulations
without
a
complete
understanding
of
why
they
were
introduced
and
the
possible
consequences
of
removing
them
would
be
a
serious
mistake.
We
recommend
that
you
remove
the
regulations
from
the
use
table,
update
now
and
schedule
this
issue
in
2024
as
either
a
separate
work
plan
are
a
significant
component
of
the
Hill
commercial
area.
Revitalization
update.
Thank
you.
Q
Rabitz
hi
good
evening,
this
is
supposed
to
be
a
video,
so
it's
not
clicking.
It
looks
like
for
a
video
click
through
it
just
to
click
on
that
one.
Will
it
come
up
as
a
video
not
able
to
okay
all
right,
so
maybe
just
go
to
the
next
one,
so
I'm,
Brenda,
Lee
and
I'm,
the
founder
and
president
of
Boulder
bear
Coalition
on
nonprofit
that
I
started
about
10
years
ago,
so
I'm
updating
you
on
some
things
that
are
going
on
right
now
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
rush
through
since
I.
Q
Don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
so
this
was
just
from
this
month.
These
pictures,
here
you
can
go
to
the
next
one
and
on
the
left,
was
the
alleyway
that
I
Came
Upon
a
bear
that
was
eating
in
the
trash.
So
that
was
what
the
video
was
of.
Actually
the
bear.
Looking
at
me,
I
looked
at
him
and
he
took
off
okay,
so
the
next
one
in
2014
we
passed
the
bear
protection
ordinance.
Q
City
council
was
amazing
on
doing
that,
and
the
city
and
my
organization
worked
quite
closely
on
that.
So
there's
that
area
west
side
of
Broadway
next
slide,
so
why
this
matters
to
me
is
because
these
are
three
bears
that
are
in
the
uni
Hill
area
right
now
and
so
they're,
the
ones
I
don't
know
if
they're
particularly
getting
into
the
trash,
but
we
know,
bears,
are
getting
into
trash
next
one.
We
know
that
there's
very
specific
areas
there,
the
same
alleys
every
year.
Q
All
the
red
dots
are
bears
that
I've
personally
seen
in
this
the
just
this
summer,
next
one.
So
the
problem
is
really
gotten
bad.
In
the
last
two
years
it
got
really
good
after
the
ordinance
was
passed,
and
it
this
year
was
the
worst
I
think
I've
seen
it
even
before
the
ordinance,
which
is
saying
a
lot
out
of
160
reports
of
stream
trash
that
I
made
only
18%
were
given
tickets
code
enforcement.
I've
worked
with
them
closely
and
they
just
don't
have
the
resources.
Q
They
don't
have
an
officer
who
can
be
out
there
in
the
morning
they're
very
comp,
that's
complaint
driven.
So,
basically,
if
I'm
out
there
at
7:00
in
the
morning
using
inquire
the
trash
trucks
coming
through
at
7:30,
there's
not
enough
time
to
be
driven
by
that
complaint,
so
the
other
82%
is
by
the
time
they
got
there.
It
was
already
resolved
because
the
trash
truck
came
through.
Okay,
sorry.
R
Ravitz
good
evening,
Mark,
rushon
resident
of
ers,
Avenue,
South,
Boulder
I,
think
there's
three
quick
slides
here,
but
and
I
do
want
to
support
Brenda's
work.
This
Boulder
bear
Coalition
I'm,
the
founder
of
caned
and
back
in
the
day
when
that
ordinance
was
passed,
it
was
a
good
news
but
support
her
work,
but
to
the
point,
drawing
attention
to
the
South,
Boulder
and
South
Broadway
next
slide,
please.
R
So
this
wooden
fence
was
put
up
20
some
plus
years
ago,
so
I
really
encourage
the
transportation
department
to
take
a
look
at
I
mean
just
from
a
safety
perspective
and
Aesthetics.
This
really
needs
attention
and
next
slide.
This
is
the
61
the
corner
Broadway
in
Table
Mesa.
This
is
kind
of
a
vacated
gas
station.
10
years
I
mean
what's
going
on,
so
what
the
city
buy,
this
property
turn
into
a
green
space
and
and
be
done
with
it.
R
B
S
My
friend,
Mark
hner,
was
homeless,
got
housed
and
spent
hundreds
of
hours
working
with
the
city
on
homeless
issues.
Mike
was
one
of
over
20
people.
The
city
sent
to
Portland
and
Eugene
in
2016
to
look
at
legal
homeless
camps
and
Tiny
home
villages
with
most
of
council,
including
Yates
and
Brockett
Mike
lives
across
the
street
from
Brockett
and
called
him
a
friend
until
Brocket
betrayed
his
longtime
public
prise
to
open
a
legal
camp
and
is
instead
starting
another
multi-year
cycle
of
consultants
and
millions
of
dollars
for
sweeps.
S
Mike
like
most
formerly
homeless,
has
health
problems
so
I'm.
Reading
some
of
his
emails
quote.
Eugene
city
council
was
really
proud
of
what
they
had
set
up
and
created
much
to
the
dismay
of
our
city
council.
Those
totally
against
any
solution
included
mayor,
Suzanne,
Jones
and
Bob
Yates.
When
we
went
to
each
place
with
tiny
H
home
City
staff
would
start
making
remarks
on
how
we
couldn't
do
that
in
Boulder.
First,
it
was
too
cold
compared
with
Argan
I
reminded
everyone
that
this
was
replicated
in
Michigan.
S
Where
it's
a
lot
colder,
then
they
said
it
would
never
work
in
the
wind.
We
have
our
Architects
said
we
had
mobile
homes
in
Boulder
that
require
St
in
and
that
could
easily
be
adapted
to
tiny
homes.
They
were
thinking
up
excuses
why
it
wouldn't
work
here
from
the
moment
they
saw
it
in
2016.
The
city
also
identified
four
properties
we
already
own
that
are
suitable
for
a
homeless
Camp.
Nothing
was
done
just
another
city
fraud.
B
T
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
as
always
say,
thank
you
for
folks
for
sharing
their
opinions
and
their
voices
and
I
think
Mark
and
Brenda
have
left
but
know
that
I
will
be
following
up
with
some
of
the
concerns
they
have
raised.
B
A
C
Just
to
correct
the
record,
Mr
Rabbits
indicated
that
I
went
to
the
on
the
trip
to
Oregon.
B
B
B
I
I
feel
like
I'm,
always
in
the
seat
that
isn't
seen
not
sure
how
that
works.
I
just
it
sounds
like
Mark
rush
and
left,
but
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
have
looked
into
that
proper
property
myself
and
that
is
owned
by
a
national
corporate
drugstore
chain
that
apparently
buys
properties
and
and
doesn't
open
stores
there.
I
So
I
don't
know
that
the
the
city
can
do
much
about
that
and
also
wanted
to
point
out
to
Mr
Rabbits
that
we
are
going
to
be
discussing
a
safe
outdoor
space
of
some
variety
in
two
weeks
that
well
we
have.
We
have
to
get
to
a
vot
of
five
to
to
do
it,
so
I'll
I'll,
keep
pushing
and
and
we'll
see
if
we
get
to
five
cool.
V
T
So
say
that
it's
funny
that
you
asked
me
because
I
live
I,
guess
closer
to
East
what
we
could
call
East
Boulder,
and
we
had
a
bear
recently
and
got
ourselves
a
bear
resistant
container
and
what
I
heard
when
I
reported
it.
Cuz
I
want
to
do
my
bit
for
making
sure
our
map
is
filled
out.
Is
that
has
been
an
inordinately
very
busy
bare
season
and
they
are
all
over
the
city.
V
A
very
bare
season,
no
yeah.
We,
we
also
had
one
in
our
neighborhood
last
week,
which
is
also
quite
unusual.
F
Genie
thanks
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
give
get
clarification
with
regards
to
Michaela's
testimony
that
we
are
not
solely
considering
closing
the
airport.
In
fact,
it
is
an
option
of
that
plus
keeping
it
open
or
even
enhancing
it.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
michaa
understands
that
we
have
a
Suite
of
options
at
our
fingertips,
and
your
testimony
was
was
was
heard
and
we'll
take
in
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
got
a
suite
in
front
of
us
and
we'll
be
making
those
decisions
soon.
W
Juny
yeah.
Thank
you,
mayor
rocket.
That's
exactly
what
I
was
gonna
talk
about.
Is
that
to
thank
Michaela
for
her
testimony,
and
my
understanding
is
that
you
know
there
was
no
decision
to
close
the
airp
report
at
this
time
in
that
during
that
council
meeting.
That
was
not
even
what
the
city
was
advocating
for
as
well
so,
but
thank
you
for
this
testimony
and
it's
great
to
hear
about
your
flight
license
that
you
were
talking
about.
So
that's,
that's!
Wonderful!
Wonderful!
So
thank
you
for
sharing
your
story
with.
H
In
regards
to
Brenda
Lee
Nua
is
it
true,
then,
that
we
are
down
I,
believe
we're
down
some
code,
Code
Enforcement
Personnel
in
that
area,
or
are
we
not
down.
T
I
believe
we
do
have
some
vacancies,
but
one
vacancy
apparently
isn't
it
fortuitous
that
BPD
is
there.
X
T
B
E
H
H
To
make
sure
staff
saw
the
very
detailed
comment
from
the
Community
member
in
regards
to
I
believe
it
was
3H
and
that
they
take
into
account
the
many
changes
that
he
would
like
to
see,
or
at
least
discuss.
Okay,
thanks.
C
Carl,
all
right:
hey,
Carl,
hey
Carl,
a
question
for
you,
so
we
also
saw
the
letter
from
from
former
planning
board
member
with
with
a
number
of
questions
and
concerns
and
I
think
there's
been
some
other
correspondents
about
this
I'm
trying
to
understand
is:
is
this
just
like?
Where
staff
and
these
former
planning
board
members
disagree,
or
were
there
actually
some
errors
in
what
staff
presented
that
need
to
be
corrected
between
first
and
second
reading.
A
Z
I
think
there
might
be
some
level
of
disagreement,
but
obviously
every
time
we
work
with
design
professionals,
they
are
designing
projects
every
day
so
that
we
we
treat
them
as
experts.
So
we
I've
been
meeting
with
Sofer
Architects
on
this
and
plan
to
meet
with
them
tomorrow
to
discuss
their
letter.
So
it's
it's
common
for
us
to
talk
through
these
issues.
It's
hard
to
forecast
how
you
know
every
bit
of
the
regulations
will
inform
a
development,
but
they
certainly
help
us
with
that.
C
Okay,
it
seem
to
me,
like
there
were
more
high
level,
didn't
seem
to
be
a
Project
Specific.
There
were
more
high
level
things
and
at
least
at
least
in
my
read
of
letter,
it
l
it
looked
to
me
like
there
was
some
some
potentially
mistakes
or
or
things
that
didn't
really
hang
together.
I
I
guess
I'm
just
struggling
a
little
bit.
C
Procedurally,
we
can
obviously
move
this
forward
on
first
reading,
but
then,
if
there's
significant
changes
as
a
result
of
your
conversations
with
various
people
in
the
community,
we'll
have
to
move
this
to
third
reading,
which
is
perfectly
fine,
there's
no
rush
on
any
of
this
stuff
or
or
we
could
just
carry
this
over
and
not
do
first
reading
tonight
and
let
you
guys
have
a
little
bit
more
time
to
work
it
out.
What's
your
what's
your
preference.
Z
We
we
intended
to
to
bring
this
to
Second
reading
on
September
21st
there's
the
planning
board
recommendations
that
we'll
be
providing
an
analysis
on
in
the
second
reading.
Memo
we'll
actually
be
recommending
that
those
planning
board
recommend
recommendations
be
incorporated.
Z
Also,
some
other
feedback
we've
got
from
the
community
that
we
thought
will
probably
make
sense
to
be
incorporated,
so
we're
anticipating
there'll,
probably
will
be
a
third
reading
on
this.
Okay,
that's
helpful
thanks,
Carl.
B
All
right
and
then
if
people
will
permit
me
item
3i,
is
a
resolution
that
we're
voting
to
adopt
this
evening
and
I
would
like
to
read
it
so
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
and
timely.
So
if
I
may
resolution
13
39
is
a
resolution
in
support
of
lgbtq
plus
people
to
obtain
Goods
Services
facilities,
privileges.
AA
B
And
whereas,
as
a
Colorado
business
303.
Creative
LLC
has
explicitly
sought
to
discriminate
against
lgbtq
plus
individuals
by
proposing
to
deny
business
services
for
persons
related
to
same-sex
marriages,
based
on
the
case
303,
creative
versus
elennis.
And
whereas
the
decision
handed
down
on
June
30th
2023
by
the
Supreme
Court
of
the
United
States
on
the
303
creative
versus
elenis
case
is
Monumental
and
that
the
court
has
granted.
B
And
whereas
Colorado
lgbtq,
plus
individuals
and
advocacy
groups
have
mobilized
with
the
state's
business
Community
to
ensure
non-discriminatory
business.
Practices
are
upheld
in
the
state
of
Colorado.
Now,
therefore,
based
on
the
findings
made
in
this
resolution,
above
be
it
resolved
by
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Boulder.
Colorado
that
it
be.
It
resolved
that
the
city
of
Boulder
concurs
herein,
that
this
States
ethics
of
fairness
and
non-discrimination
should
be
applied
without
exception
to
the
lgbtq
plus
community
and
all
other
members
of
classes
protected
by
Boulder
or
Colorado
law.
B
And
this
resolution
shall
take
effect
upon
its
adoption
by
the
city
council
tonight.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
that
with
me
and
thank
you
to
out
Boulder
County
for
bringing
this
resolution.
B
Forward
any
other
notes
before
we
have
a
vote
seeing
none
I
would
invite
a
motion.
F
B
Have
a
motion
and
a
second,
we
have
a
roll
call
vote.
Please
Elicia.
E
G
C
Yes
and
a
resounding
yes
on
item
3i,
which
is
resolution
that
Aon
just
read.
C
B
Yes,
with
also
special
attention
to
threei.
Thank
you.
E
B
A
AB
E
Yes,
sir
call
up
check-ins
are
item
four
on
tonight's
agenda.
4
a
is
the
call
of
consideration
of
a
site
and
use
review
to
redevelop
the
property
at
1345
28th
Street,
with
three
with
three
four-story
buildings
containing
303
student
housing,
residential
Apartments.
This
is
reviewed
under
case
number.
E
G
B
Okay,
seeing
no
other
interest
in
this
one
looks
like
we're
not
calling
this
item
up.
So
if
we
can
move
to
our
public
hearing
except
we
need
a
little
bit
of
instruction
on
interpretation.
So
if
we
could
hear
from
that
first
before
we
officially
start
the
the
item
Ryan,
can
you
speak
to
this.
L
Please
absolutely
thank
you
again.
Briyan
henin
Community
engagement
manager,
I
will
describe
Jinan
interpretation
in
English
and
turn
to
one
of
our
terrific
interpreters
here
tonight
to
describe
in
Spanish
as
well.
We
also
have
Spanish
speaking
staff
and
partners
in
the
room
to
help
connect.
Folks,
I
will
go
ahead
and
pull
up
this
quick
diagram
here.
L
So
folks
know
if
you
are
joining
by
Zoom,
there
is
a
icon
that
looks
like
a
globe
and
your's
a
menu
and
there
you
can
select
participating
in
English
or
in
Spanish,
and
let
me
pause
there
and
Tanya.
If
You'
be
able
to
share
that
brief
description
in
Spanish,
then
we
can
make
sure
folks
are
hearing.
L
L
Unmuted,
yes,
please
finish
up
the
instructions
in
in
Spanish
in
the
English
Channel
channel,
so
we
can
make
sure
to
catch
everyone
and
then
we'll
transition
to
the
the.
B
That
so
what
I'd
say
is
maybe
if
I
could
get
an
email
or
a
text
with
the
Spanish
instructions,
I'll
read
them,
but
maybe
we
can
proceed
for
now
and
I'll
come
back
to
them
as
as
soon
as
we
have
those
ready
or
or
maybe
you
could
just
do
it
right
now.
I
don't
want
to
leave
anybody
behind.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
can
send
those
to
me.
L
Quickly,
mayor
I
will
go
ahead
and
and
add
those
in
in
chat
in
Spanish
as
well,
so
we're
we're
ready
to
move
forward.
Thank
you.
E
T
Thank
you
so
much
mayor.
So
even
before
I
got
here,
the
city
had
been
on
a
trajectory
to
reimagine,
policing
and
I'll.
Say
I'm
really
excited
for
staff
to
present
this
reimagining
plan.
It
is
not
quite
a
master
plan
in
the
traditional
sense
of
the
word.
This
plan
is
really
a
Visionary
document,
a
blueprint
or
a
road
map
of
what
policing
should
look
like
in
Boulder
in
the
future
and
I'm
excited
to
ask
the
Chief
and
the
rest
of
the
team
to
share
the
result
of
many
many
conversations
in
community.
AC
Chief
well
good
evening,
mayor
Brockett,
good
evening,
mayor
protim
wall
and
members
of
council
I
am
so
excited
to
be
here
tonight.
I
want
to
begin
by
telling
tell
you
a
personal
story
about
why
this
reimagined
plan
is
vitally
important
to
this
community
and
the
police
department,
and
why,
after
32
years
in
policing
that
I
believe
strongly
that
policing
is
too
important
to
fail
next
slide.
AC
Please
the
image
on
the
left
is
me,
and
my
mother,
now
deputy
chief
Redfern
over
here,
recommended
that
I
point
myself
out,
because
he
feared
that
you
would
not
recognize
me
since,
as
I
look
in
his
words
a
little
bit
too
nice
and
a
little
bit
too
sweet
now,
I,
don't
know
what
he
meant
by
that.
But
we'll
continue
for
those
of
you
don't
know.
My
mother
was
a
civil
rights
activist.
She
walked
alongside
some
of
the
greats
in
the
Civil
Rights
Movement,
both
in
California
and
in
the
South
later
in
life.
AC
My
mother
became
an
animal
rights
activist
and
she
was
one
of
the
first
to
link
Animal
Welfare
with
climate
change
in
the
environment,
but
my
mother
grew
up
in
crippling
poverty
in
Appalachia
as
a
child.
She
had
no
Plumbing
or
running
water.
Her
childhood
experiences
with
police
were
negative.
Her
community
saw
the
police's
oppressors
and
not
peacekeepers,
but
my
mother
desperately
wanted
me
to
become
a
pilot
like
any
good
daughter.
I
became
a
pilot.
AC
I
didn't
want
to
tell
my
mother
that
I
wanted
something
different,
that
I
wanted
more
purpose,
but
at
the
same
time
I
applied
to
the
FBI
in
the
Cincinnati
Police
Department,
but
I
was
on
my
way
to
the
cir
flight
school
in
academy
in
Fort
Lauderdale
Florida.
When
I
got
the
call
from
Cincinnati
Police
Department
and
they
said
you
have
a
week
to
decide
if
you
want
to
join
our
Police
Academy.
So
I
had
to
break
the
news
to
my
mother.
AC
That
I
was
not
going
to
join
the
Flight
Academy
in
Fort
Lauderdale,
but
I
was
going
to
join
the
police
academy.
Now
I
thought
my
mother
would
be
devastated
by
this
news,
but
when
we
sat
down
together
and
I
told
her
she
Rec
remained
calm,
then
my
mother
told
me
two
things
that
I
have
never
forgotten
in
my
life
and
I
never
will
first,
she
said
Maris.
AC
Please
promise
me
that
you
will
never
lose
your
compassion
for
the
people
that
you
will
serve
because
most
of
the
people
that
you
serve
will
be
disenfranchised
and
suffering
from
crippling
poverty.
I
believe
I've
kept
that
promise
and
it
has
guided
me
in
my
philosophy
and
my
actions
throughout
my
career.
Then
she
said
one
more
thing
to
me:
you
can
fight
Injustice
in
systems
on
the
inside
or
the
outside.
You
probably
will
have
greater
impact
on
the
inside,
but
your
ro
road
will
be
exceptionally
hard.
AC
It
has
been
an
extremely
difficult
Journey,
so
my
mother
was
right,
but
throughout
my
policing,
career
I
have
learned
that
our
democracy
is
heavily
dependent
upon
its
police
to
maintain
a
degree
of
order
that
makes
a
free,
Society
possible.
It
looks
to
the
police
to
prevent
people
from
praying
on
one
another,
to
facilitate
movement,
to
resolve
conflicts
and
to
protect
basic
rights
such
such
as
free
elections,
freedom
of
assembly
and
Free
Speech
next
slide.
So
how
can
we
support
our
democratic
values
and
and
ensure
that
all
community
members
are
treated
compassionately?
AC
Policing
must
focus
on
these
outcomes.
This
has
become
the
Boulder
Police
Department's
Mantra.
We
have
have
to
ask
ourselves
before
adopting
any
new
training.
Any
new
policy
changes
any
interventions
any
strategies.
These
four
questions
is
what
we're
about
to
implement.
Is
it
effective?
Will
it
work
to
prevent
crime?
Is
it
ethical?
Will
we
be
transparent
and
are
we
willing
to
ask
ourselves?
Are
we
defending
the
sanctity
of
human
life
on
every
critical
decision
that
we
make?
Is.
AC
AC
If
you
stand
with
me
for
a
little
bit
here,
I
first
want
to
thank
the
community,
who
has
been
with
me
for
three
and
a
half
years
through
some
of
the
most
challenging
times
that
I've
ever
faced
in
policing.
I
also
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
men
and
women
of
the
Boulder
Police
Department
and
my
command
staff
and
my
management
team
behind
me
who
have
done
nothing
but
support
me
and
all
of
the
new
ideas
that
I'm
throwing
at
them
constantly
I.
Y
AC
Thank
Wendy
Schwarz,
who,
who
is
the
her
human
services
policy
manager
for
her
dedication
throughout
this
process:
deputy
chief
Redfern,
deputy
chief
gosage
Pam
Davis
assistant
city
manager,
Sarah
Huntley,
director
of
communication
and
engagement,
Dr,
Don,
Daniel,
Reinhardt
senior
data,
analyst
Amy,
Kae,
Equity
manager,
Taylor
Ryman
at
the
time
city,
council,
administrator,
Mark,
wolf
budget
senior
manager,
Gina
ki,
our
senior
manager
for
the
police
department,
J
siet,
Communications,
Senior,
Management
and
Manuel
Manuel
C
wines.
Thank
you.
AC
I
also
want
to
thank
Chris
rangos
from
the
planning
team
who
helped
in
the
beginning
and
also
the
pro
process
subcommittee
council,
member
Yates.
Thank
you,
council,
member
Joseph.
Thank
you,
council,
member
friend.
Thank
you
council
member
Wier.
Thank
you.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
road,
but
thank
you
very
much.
Marina
L
lrav
from
the
community
and
mallerie
Kates
from
the
community
I
couldn't
do
this
without
everybody's
support
and
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Wendy,
and
thank
you
for
listening
to
my
story.
AD
That,
okay,
thank
you,
Chief
Wendy,
Schwarz
housing
and
Human
Services,
but
for
the
last
couple
of
years,
I've
had
this
other
little
project
called
reimagine
policing
in
the
interest
of
oops
I
forgot
to
advance
my
slide
in
the
interest
of
time
tonight,
I
won't
read
through
everything
on
our
agenda,
but
what
we
will
be
doing
is
talking
about
the
process
we
took
to
get
to
this
plan
highlighting
some
of
the
engagement
and
then
going
over
some
key
components
of
the
plan.
You'll
note
this
presentation
is
bilingual.
AD
AE
AD
Us
we
have
our
suggested
motion
tonight,
which
will
repeat
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
We
did
have
a
process
subcommittee,
the
reimagine
policing
process
subcommittee
for
this
project
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later,
when
we're
highlighting
this.
But
the
motion
for
tonight
is-
or
the
suggested
motion
rather
is
to
accept
the
reimagined
policing
plan
and
disband
the
reimagined
policing
process.
AD
So
for
an
overview
of
the
reimagine
policing
process,
Council
and
the
community
may
remember
from
our
previous
presentations
that
we
had
four
major
engagement
Windows
on
this
project
and
we
used
the
and
those
ran
from
about
summer
2021
to
early
2023.
AD
We
used
the
time
between
those
major
engagement
Windows
to
analyze
the
feedback
we
got
and
turn
it
into
more
specific
documents
for
the
community
to
react
to
more
specific
plans
with
the
final
window,
which
was
managed
by
our
consultant
National,
policing,
Institute,
covering
our
previous,
our
draft
reimagine
policing
plan,
which
was
released
late
last
summer,
and
that
was
also
the
topic
of
the
last
Council
study
session.
On
this
item.
AD
Please,
okay:
is
this
better?
It's
better!
Okay!
Thanks!
So
do
you
do
you
need
me
to
repeat
anything
Aon?
Okay,
so
we
use
that
feedback
to
do
the
revisions
to
get
to
the
updated
plan
that
you
have
before
you
tonight,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Sarah
to
further
discuss
the
engagement.
U
Process
is
the
mic:
okay,
okay,
good
evening
Council
I'm,
Sarah
Huntley,
director
of
communication
and
engagement
and
tonight
I'm
honored,
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
engagement
approach
that
we've
taken
over
those
four
windows
that
Wendy
talked
about
Guided
by
a
process
subcommittee
that
included
two
community
members,
both
of
whom
you'll
hear
from
briefly
later,
as
well
as
two
sets
of
council
members.
We've
spent
nearly
2
years
seeking
to
understand
what
our
community
wants
from
its
Police
Department.
U
We
were
committed
to
hearing
from
the
whole
Community,
because
policing
affects
the
whole
Community,
but
we
were
pretty
sure
that
those
who
are
most
vocal
in
government
would
be
able
to
leverage
a
lot
of
our
existing
techniques.
So
we
decided
to
demonstrate
equity
in
action.
We
used
our
limited
resources
to
Champion,
Innovation
and
practice
active
listening
specifically
with
populations
that
have
been
disproportionately
impacted
by
pleasing.
We
really
wanted
to
lift
their
voices
to
create
a
new
vision
for
pleasing
in
our
community.
U
The
result
has
been
one
of
the
most
inclusive
engagement
efforts
to
date
and
Boulder
I'm
not
going
to
stand
here
and
tell
you
everything
about.
It
has
been
perfect,
but
we've
learned
a
lot
and
we've
made
some
progress
in
the
right
direction.
This
meant
partnering
in
new
ways
giving
up
some
of
our
control
getting
outside
of
our
comfort
zone.
Emphasiz
izing
bilingual
communication,
which,
as
we
saw
tonight,
is
sometimes
challenging
and
experimenting
with
ideas
that
did
not
always
work,
as
we
hoped
the
slideshow
before
you
shows
some
of
the
Innovative
techniques
we
tried.
U
The
rectangle
in
the
top
leftand
corner
is
sort
of
our
more
typical
approach.
We
had
beard
Boulder
options
for
people
to
participate
in
over
the
entire
process.
We
also
had
Town
Hall
opportunities
to
talk
about
issues
related
to
policing
in
this
plan,
but
all
of
the
rest
of
the
boxes
on
this
slide
were
innovations
that
we
tried.
I,
don't
have
time
to
highlight
them
all,
but
I'm
going
to
highlight
one
of
them
to
tell
a
story
about
some
of
the
progress
that
we've
made.
U
U
The
reimagine,
policing
Plan
gave
us
a
chance
to
talk
with
youth
and
hear
their
thoughts
about
a
very
challenging
and
sometimes
emotional
topic.
When
I
approached
growing
up
Boulder,
the
wise
and
white
women
at
the
organization
were
excited
to
work
with
us,
but
they
recognized,
as
did
I,
that
we
would
need
additional
help
if
the
goal
was
to
reach
non-white.
Young
people,
particularly
those
who
may
have
had
negative
interactions
with
police
themselves
or
may
have
had
family
members
who
have
had
negative
interactions,
so
growing
up
Boulder
challenged
us
to
be
courageous
and
even
more
deliberate.
U
In
this
effort,
they
introduced
us
to
a
boulder
resident
named
Maya
Soul
Dany,
who
runs
a
company
or
firm
or
business
called
my
emotion,
healing,
Maya
soul
is
a
clinical
social
worker
who
grew
up
in
Boulder
as
the
daughter
of
immigrant
parents,
Maya
Soul
brought
to
this
process.
Mental
Health
Training,
her
culture,
her
own
lived
experiences
and
Powerful
heartfelt
practices
to
reach
young
people
who
might
not
otherwise
participate
in
our
processes.
At
all.
Through
this,
she
sought
to
empower
youth
voices
while
minimizing
the
chance
for
additional
trauma
and
harm.
U
This
plan
was
informed
by
candid
reports
prepared
by
growing
up
Boulder
and
my
emotion
healing
as
partners
in
each
stage
of
this
journey.
We
learned
so
much
both
about
the
youth
vision
for
leing
and
some
other
their
skepticism
about
our
ability
to
get
there,
as
well
as
what
inclusive,
engagement
that
recognizes
and
seeks
to
address
trauma
needs
to
look
like
this
learning
could
be
helpful
in
lots
of
future
contexts.
Youth
feedback
shows
up
in
various
places
in
this
plan,
most
notably
in
a
commitment
to
co-create
an
onage
ongoing
engagement
program.
U
This
work
is
just
beginning:
we've
already
created
a
work
group
with
the
youth
opportunities,
Advisory
Board
board
and
newly
appointed
youth
ambassadors
from
Boulder
PD
they're
eager
to
work
together.
I
expect
their
collaboration
will
include
new
ways
for
police
and
young
people
to
build
trusting
relationships.
Some
of
this
can
be
achieved
through
fun
activities,
but
the
truth
is:
it
must
also
provide
opportunities
for
honest
conversations
about
issues
that
matter
most
to
youth.
U
Ideally,
it
will
include
opportunities
for
the
officers
and
youth
to
solve
problems
together
that
are
affecting
Young
people
in
Boulder
today,
next
slide,
please.
This
list
is
designed
to
Showcase
examples,
just
some
examples
of
our
efforts
to
reach
out
to
a
diverse
set
of
stakeholders
through
some
of
the
techniques
shown
on
the
previous
slide.
I'm
not
going
to
read
the
list,
but
I
think
you
can
see
that
we
tried
to
reach
a
large
swath
of
community
members
with
that
particular
Equity.
U
Focus
one
of
the
fundamental
pieces
of
work
we
we
did
with
Community
was
to
develop
a
set
of
values
and
we
created
these
drafts,
Community
safety
values
in
one
of
the
early
engagement
windows,
but
sought
to
to
validate
them
and
refine
them
throughout
subsequent
Windows.
These
are
values
that
resonate
with
a
wide
range
of
people
and
they're
so
important
because
they
shaped
so
much
of
the
work
that
followed
I'd
like
to
run
through
these
values.
Now
they
all
start
with,
can
you
go
back
to
the
previous
slide?
J
U
We
demonstrate
we
are
a
compassionate
community
that
supports
the
basic
needs
and
right
to
be
free
from
crime
for
all
community
members.
Criminal
behavior
is
met
with
accountability,
measures
that
are
fair
and
just
within
placing
and
other
systems
with
opportunities
for
individuals
to
be
supported
in
underlying
issues.
U
Force
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
about
a
lot
of
things
in
this
process,
but
a
few
themes
or
key
questions
really
stood
out.
You
can
see
them
here
on
this
slide
as
you
review
the
slide,
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
first
three
questions
recognize
that
there
is
a
need
for
change.
Throughout
this
process.
There
was
an
acknowledge
ment
by
everybody
involved
of
past
Harms
in
history.
That
includes
examples
of
Oppression
and
racism.
U
This
plan
seeks
to
address
this
truth,
but
I
also
want
to
be
clear
that
our
engagement
showed
there
is
a
companion
Viewpoint.
There
is
deep
concern
in
this
community
about
crime
and
issues
related
to
safety.
Much
of
the
feedback
we
heard
emphasized
the
importance
of
continuing
to
find
solutions
for
these
problems,
and
many
community
members
see
police
as
essential
Partners
in
this
they
want
to
see
the
department
appropriately
resourced.
U
It
is
rarely
the
case
that
engagement
leads
to
clear
consensus,
and
certainly
this
process
did
not,
but
the
team
that
sought
to
integrate
these
perspectives
resisted
any
urge
to
see
these
as
contradictory
ideas.
The
reimagine
policing
plan
you
have
before
you
tonight
seeks
to
strike
a
new
balance
in
recognition
of
the
many
important
priorities
in
Boulder
I'm
now
going
to
invite
another
speaker,
Dr
Robin
Engel,
to
talk
about
engagement
that
occurred
later
in
the
process.
After
the
release
of
the
draft.
AF
Plan
good
evening,
thank
you
for
having
me
to
your
beautiful
Community,
I'm,
Robin,
Engel
and
I'm
the
senior
vice
president
at
the
National
policeing
Institute
and
I,
find
myself
traveling
all
around
the
country
and
around
around
the
world
for
that
matter.
Working
with
communities
of
all
shapes
and
sizes
and
I
have
to
say
I'm
thrilled,
absolutely
thrilled
to
be
here
in
Boulder
in
such
a
beautiful
Community,
both
inside
and
out.
AF
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
hospitality
that
I've
experienced
over
the
last
couple
of
days,
while
I've
been
here
during
my
time
just
a
little
bit
about
the
national
policing
Institute
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
be
familiar
with
our
organization.
We
are
a
nonprofit
nonpartisan
and
non-membership
organization,
ation
that
is
dedicated
solely
and
exclusively
to
science
and
innovation
in
public
safety
and
policing.
Our
goal
is
to
advance
policing
as
a
whole,
but
also
to
make
our
communities
safer,
vibrant
places
and
to
make
interactions
between
police
and
Community
safer.
AF
We
were
actually
in
1970
was
when
we
were
founded,
and
that
was
straight
out
of
the
civil
unrest
from
in
the
1960s,
given
a
a
grant,
an
endowment
from
the
Ford
foundation
with
the
sole
purpose
to
improve
policing.
Here
we
are
decades
later
often
dealing
with
some
of
the
same
crisis
and
issues
that
we
were
at
that
time.
AF
AF
Now
very
good.
Well,
then,
then,
I'll
go
really
fast.
Let
me
say
that
I
actually
inherited
this
project.
I
came
to
the
National
policing
Institute
in
September,
as
the
senior
vice
president
last
September,
so
I've
been
there
now
a
full
year,
I'm
trained
as
an
academic,
and
when
I
came,
the
the
contract
had
already
been
in
process
and
the
work
had
begun.
AF
The
research
team
that
put
this
that
put
this
plan
together
included
four
of
our
team
members
and
then
was
evaluated
by
me
after
the
fact,
along
with
a
series
of
outside
Consultants
that
we
hired
to
look
at
our
statistical
techniques,
our
approach,
our
research
methodologies,
we
used
two
distinct
but
complimentary
approaches
all
of
this
to
just
get
an
assessment
of
our
community
here
in
Boulder,
and
what
we
found
was
first,
a
survey
that
was
designed
to
have
a
quantitative
assessment
of
community
perceptions,
something
that
was
a
representative
sample
that
we
could
generalize
to
the
community
as
a
whole.
AF
We
used
a
stratified
random
sample
and
140
respondents.
AF
The
key
findings
from
this
research,
most
of
our
respondents,
actually
had
little
involvement
or
knowledge
of
the
previous
steps
that
had
been
in
place
at
the
time
for
the
planning
of
the
reimagined
Boulder
policing
plan.
The
survey
respondents
believed
that
at
least
five
of
the
six
safety
values
from
the
draft
plan
were
more
successful
than
then
not
successful.
Already
before
the
plan
had
even
moved
forward.
AF
So
there
was
a
lot
of
buyin
from
your
community
at
the
onset,
but
still
a
number
of
unformed
opinions,
so
anywhere
from
30
to
50%
of
the
respondents
to
this
survey
had
not
yet
formed
impressions
of
the
Boulder
Police
Department
across
the
six
core
values
that
they
identified
for
this
plan.
This
represents
a
great
opportunity
for
additional
engagement
by
the
police
department
and
by
members
of
city,
council
and
others
in
this
community.
The
second
approach,
the
qualitative
data
analysis
we
used
that
convenience
sample
and
we
identified
six
core
themes.
AF
Those
core
themes
I,
was
so
proud
to
see
that
those
core
themes
that
we
identified
through
our
research
in
these
qualitative
methods
was
then
used
as
a
theme
throughout
the
updated
plan.
Those
core
themes
included
compassion
and
empathy,
dignity
and
respect,
Rapport
and
relationships
care
and
concern
communication
and
being
trauma
informed.
These
findings
showed
that
there
was
broad
support
for
building
stronger
Partnerships
with
community-based
organizations
to
help
prevent
crime.
AF
It
was
also
suggested
that
the
Boulder
Police,
dep
Department
could
more
fully
utilize
Community
expertise
to
deliver
training
and
other
components
within
the
police
department
and
then,
finally,
and
I
think
this
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
pieces.
There
was
a
recommendation
from
your
residents
of
the
importance
to
acknowledge
the
history
of
policing
in
training
by
the
Boulder
Police
Department.
Now,
as
I
mentioned
to
you,
I
travel
all
the
time,
I'm
always
on
the
road.
Last
weekend,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
go
to
Montgomery
Alabama
and
Selma
Alabama
abama.
AF
The
reason
that
I
was
there
over
the
weekend
was
to
have
the
kickoff
for
what
we're
calling
the
54th
mile
policing
project.
This
project
is
a
new
training
for
police
departments.
It's
been
sponsored
by
the
Department
of
Justice,
there's
been
over
a
$1
million
investment
in
this
work,
and
it
follows
three
African-American
police
Executives,
as
they
walked
the
54
miles
between
Selma
and
Montgomery
as
a
Reep
in
the
process
of
that
historic
moment
when
the
over
the
Pettis
bridge.
AF
We
are
committed
to
moving
forward
with
teaching
that
history
to
our
law
enforcement,
Executives
and
police
officers
and
I'm
so
proud,
and
pleased
that
the
Boulder
Police
Department
Executives
feel
the
same.
They
recognize
the
value
of
that
and
are
willing
to
move
forward
with
our
pilot
test.
Work
I'm
also
pleased
to
tell
you
that
after
I
reviewed,
this
new
plan
recall
that
I'd
only
seen
the
initial
draft
plan,
so
I
reviewed
this
plan.
Just
this
week
when
I
was
traveling
here,
I
found
it
to
be
comprehensive,
holistic.
AF
Bold,
it's
science-based,
it's
inclusive,
it's
Progressive,
it's
Innovative
and
quite
frankly
it
is
visionary
and
the
first
thing
I
did
after
I
read
this
on
Monday
was
I,
sent
a
text
message
to
the
director
of
the
Bureau
of
Justice
assistance
and
I
said:
have
have
you
seen
this
plan
and
then
I
contacted
other
officials
at
the
Department
of
Justice
and
I
said?
Have
you
seen
this
plan?
And
now
we
are
working
to
include
this
in
what
we
call
the
knowledge
lab.
AF
The
knowledge
lab
is
a
bja
funded
Bureau
of
Justice
assistance,
funded
$9
million
investment
to
prop
up
the
most
positive
examples
that
we
have
in
policing,
and
this
will
be
a
part
of
that
Foundation
as
well.
I
encourage
you
to
take
a
very
close
look
at
this.
It's
not
perfect.
No
plan
is
but
I
don't
know
of
any
other
plan
across
the
country.
That's
as
Visionary
as
this
one.
Thank.
A
AC
So
this
map
of
Boulder
is
basically
calls
for
service
and
crime.
The
only
thing
that
I
really
want
to
point
out
on
this
slide
is
that
it
shows
that
crime
is
heavily
concentrated
in
particular
places.
What
I'd
like
to
emphasize
here
is
that
crime
Trends
tends
to
concentrate
in
highly
susceptible
areas
in
our
city
and
places,
and
this
allows
crime
to
impact
our
most
vulnerable
able
populations
next.
Q
AC
Thanks
really,
when
you're
talking
about
changing
a
policing
culture,
what
I'm
really
asking
this
Police
Department
to
do
is
a
radical,
radical
departure
from
traditional
police
work.
The
conventional
policing
model
has
been
in
place
for
most
of
my
career,
the
one
the
slide
on
the
left.
An
officer
receives
an
i1
on
one
call.
He
responds
as
quickly
as
possible.
AC
The
off
the
officer
either
takes
a
report
or
makes
an
arrest,
and
if
arrest
is
made,
then
the
suspect
is
processed
through
the
criminal
justice
system,
where
it
is
difficult
to
ass,
assess
the
likelihood
of
future
harm
both
to
the
community,
given
recidivism
rates
in
Colorado
and
the
offender.
The
problem
solving
model
which
is
on
the
right
is
data
driven,
requires
complex
analysis,
collaboration
evaluation
in
Partnerships.
AC
The
first
model
that
we
talked
about
that
I
spent
most
of
my
career
in,
is
reactionary
and
relies
heavily
on
traditional
criminal
justice
mechanisms,
while
the
second
offers
a
preventative
policing
model
next
slide.
Please.
This
plan
speaks
to
e
Equity
because
it
rejects
the
notion
that
crime,
which
is
disproportionately
impacts.
Our
most
vulnerable
communities
can
only
be
prevented
by
traditional
criminal
justice
responses
such
as
Arrest
once
a
crime
occurs.
We
must
stop
those
engaged
in
crime
from
committing
further
harm,
and
we
do
that
by
leveraging
the
Justice
responses.
But
what
is
predictable
is
preventable.
AC
Research
shows
that
when
crime
is
patterned
and
heavily
concentrated,
we
can
develop
effective
prevention
strategies.
We
can
reduce
arrest
in
other
Justice
responses
only
if
we
can
find
alternative
ways
to
reduce
crime.
Our
plan
ask
officers
to
engage
in
complex
problem
solving
in
partnership
with
the
community
to
find
unique
and
effective
Solutions.
One
of
the
primary
responsibilities
of
local
government
is
to
ensure
Community.
A
AC
It's
pretty
good.
This
approach
will
allow
us
to
achieve
this
goal
while
directly
addressing
equity
in
all
of
our
city
values.
Next
slide,
please,
as
you
know,
I
think.
We've
talked
about
it
before
the
Boulder
Police
Department
has
taken
a
holistic
approach
to
policing
and
I
a
big
geek
I
study,
the
United
Kingdom,
their
holistic
governance
model
models,
and
they
are
way
ahead
of
the
United
States
and
I've
realized
that
other
city
city
departments
play
such
a
key
role
in
public
safety
and
Public
Safety
outcomes.
AC
We
have
started
this
holistic
approach
with
several
major
projects
that
we
work
together
in
partnership
with
other
s,
City
Department
directors,
including
our
work
with
SS,
our
chronic
nuisance
work
and
most
certainly
our
high
utilizer
working
group
as
well
and
I
think
think.
I'm
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
back
over
to
deputy
chief
Redfern.
AH
Thanks
Chief
good
evening
Council
and
mayor
Steve,
Redfern
Deputy
police
chief
I'm,
going
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
some
of
the
concepts
the
chief
brought
up
and
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
are
already
implementing
some
of
the
things
in
this
plan
and
then
how
we
will
move
it
forward.
So,
as
you
know,
the
backbone
of
this
plan
is
problem
solving
and
problem
oriented
policing.
We
use
a
couple
of
models
to
help
us
in
these
efforts.
AH
The
first
one
is
called
cheers
and
it
determines
if
a
problem
is
suitable
for
us
to
focus
a
problem
solving
project
on.
If
so,
then
we
use
a
traditional
model,
you
may
have
heard
of
called
Sarah
Sarah.
The
Sarah
model
involves
scanning
analysis,
response
and
assessment.
The
cheers
has
six
areas
that
must
be
met
before
we
engage
on
a
problem
solving
Endeavor
the
first
is
community.
The
problem
must
be
one
that
the
community
is
experiencing.
Second
is
harm.
People
or
institutions
must
be
experiencing
some
sort
of
harm,
not
necessarily
criminal.
AH
Next
is
expectations.
Some
members
of
the
community
must
expect
the
police
to
address
those
harms.
The
role
of
analysis
will
uncover
the
problem.
Next
is
events.
They
must
be
able
to
describe
the
type
of
event
that
makes
up
the
problem
followed
by
recurrence.
The
events
must
recur,
they
cannot
be
oneoff.
Single
incidents
recurrence
is
symptomatic
of
acute
troubles
or
a
chronic
problem.
Finally,
a
similarity.
The
recurring
events
must
have
something
in
common
an
example.
No,
this
is
the
same
slide.
An
example
of
a
real
world
problem.
AH
Solving
project
is
one
that
you've
heard
about
before
called
The
Table
Mesa
park
and
ride.
We've
discussed
this
with
you
on
prior
occasions
and
as
of
this
date,
we
continue
to
see
few
calls
at
this
location
each
month
and
very
few
crime
incidents.
We
utilize
the
sah
model
as
part
of
a
problem
solving
initiative
through
our
stratified
policing
program
to
solve
the
issue.
For
example,
we
use
the
scanning
phase.
We
identified,
prioritized
and
selected
this
problem
using
data
and
Community
input.
AH
We
then
moved
to
the
analysis
phase,
which
deeply
analyzed
the
root
cause
of
the
problem
on
a
wide
level.
We
then
determined
our
response,
our
response
phase
determined
and
implemented
the
resp
appropriate
response
using
all
stakeholders
and
community
and
City
Partners.
Once
we
felt
we
made
adequate
progress
on
the
project,
we
moved
to
the
assessment
phase,
which
is
often
the
most
ignored
part
of
the
sah
model
that
assesses
the
impact
of
a
particular
response
and
trying
something
different.
If
it's
not
working,
we
still
analyze
and
assess
I'm.
AH
Sorry,
we
still
assess
this
project
every
month
to
ensure
it
doesn't
come
back
up
as
a
problem.
Location
next
slide.
Please
so
I
want
to
talk
briefly
Switching
gears
just
a
little
bit.
As
you
read
in
chapter
four
of
the
plan,
we
have
broken
down
the
steps
our
agency
will
take
in
the
next
two
to
five
years
into
three
Focus
areas.
The
first
is
department
and
officer
Readiness.
This
is
broken
into
three
areas.
The
first
is
adjusting
Staffing.
AH
Now
the
rule
of
60,
which
was
developed
by
the
mcma
or
International
City
County
Managers
Association,
recommends
that
approximately
60%
of
sworn
personnel
should
be
assigned
to
patrol
the
average
workload
for
patrol
Staffing
should
not
exceed
60%.
What
does
this
mean?
This
means
that
60%
of
our
officers,
time
on
patrol,
should
be
spent
responding
to
calls
for
service
and
40%
should
be
spent
working
with
the
community
identifi
working
on
problems
identified
by
the
community
and
proactive
policing.
AH
As
you
can
read
in
the
plan,
an
independent
researcher
conducted
a
historical
analys
of
our
calls
for
service,
as
well
as
the
complexity
of
our
calls
for
service
and
determine
that
we
are
not
at
the
Staffing
level.
We
should
be
in
order
to
accomplish
the
icma
rule
of
60.
The
next
topic
is
training.
We
train
all
officers
on
deescalation
and
other
best
practices.
This
is
well
underway
in
our
agency
and
we
have
ongoing
training
in
Crisis
Intervention
AEL,
which
is
active
bystanders,
ship
for
law
enforcement
and
icat
and
others.
AH
This
dep
deployment
of
our
joint
police
academy
will
continue
to
further
the
these
Endeavors.
The
next
is
prioritizing
staff
well-being.
The
best
of
plans
will
not
work
if
our
staff
are
not
healthy
and
coming
to
work
fully
engaged
both
mentally
and
physically.
Well,
it
has
been
a
difficult
time
to
be
in
policing,
and
thus
we
are
focused
on
things
like
officer,
Wellness,
utilizing,
EAP,
peer
support
and
other
resources.
For
example,
recently
we've
had
several
critical
incidents
that
were
highly
impactful
on
our
staff.
AH
We
are
offering
Innovative
things
like
EMDR
and
other
techniques
to
make
sure
that
they
are
well.
We
hired
a
part-time
family
support
coordinator,
that's
doing
fun
and
Innovative
things
and
events
to
engage
our
families
of
our
officers
and
Foster,
better
cohesion
throughout
the
department,
we're
focusing
on
physical
health
to
encourage
Fitness
and
physical
wellness
and
offering
programs
focused
in
these
areas
and,
finally,
we're
investing
in
a
Personnel
early
intervention
system.
All
of
those
things
I
just
described
will
help
with
recruiting
and
retention
next
slide.
AH
Please
you
mov,
oh
perfect,
Focus
area
2
is
enhanced
Community
engagement
and
relationships.
We
will
utilize
P
place-based
problem
solving
with
Equity
Focus
such
as
problem
solving
policing,
stratified
policing,
all
using
data
to
focus
our
efforts
properly
and
increase
Equity,
we'll
strengthen
relationships
with
communities
negatively
impacted
by
policing,
including,
and
this
includes
hiring
more
diverse
candidates.
We
will
include
diverse
Community
perspectives
and
key
decisions
that
we
make
in
the
police
department
next
slide.
AH
The
third
area
is
improved
accountability
and
transparency.
I
mentioned
we
will.
We
are
engaging
in
an
enhanced
officer,
performance
and
early
warning
system,
and
we
will
have
a
community
ranking
for
every
interaction
with
new
technology
to
allow
for
robust
Community
feedback
on
police
interaction,
and
we
will
continue
sharing
information
in
our
dashboard
and
other
accountability
tools
to
be
transparent
next
slide.
Please.
So
obviously
we
need
to
figure
out
how
we
will
know
if
this
is
effective
in
order
to
be
responsive
to
the
common
themes
we
heard
from
from
the
community
dur.
During
this
process.
AH
We
have
several
proposed
indicators
that
will
guide
the
department
and
the
community
in
tracking
progress.
The
first
is
effective
and
improving
I'm,
sorry,
Effectiveness
and
improving
Public
Safety.
It
will
involve
a
deeper
analysis
of
crime
associated
with
the
problem.
Solving
policing
efforts
in
areas
with
focused
interventions
we'll
continue
to
contribute
to
and
review
The
Benchmark
cities
data
to
use
or
to
see
improvements
versus
like-sized
US
cities
and
will
continue
to
Leverage
The
CommunityWide
survey,
two
to
three
times.
I'm
sorry,
every
two
to
three
years
to
evaluate
perceptions
of
crime
and
safety.
AH
The
next
area
is
appropriate
use
of
resources.
We
will
work
with
our
partners
to
continue
our
holistic
approach
to
determine
the
most
appropriate
response
for
public
safety
issues.
With
that
we
will
collect
data
and
annual
report.
The
percentage
of
calls
that
resulted
in
the
utilization
of
a
co-responder
and
the
percentage
of
calls
that
the
result
in
a
care
team
being
dispatched
in
lie
of
officers.
Next,
we
will
continue
our
commitment
to
equity
and
reducing
in
disparities.
AH
We
will
use
a
multitude
of
metrics,
including
publishing,
stop
data
analyzing
uses
of
force,
continuing
public
information
updates
on
major
events,
using
technology
platforms,
to
get
public
feedback,
tracking
percentages
of
officers
attending
evidence-based
training,
and
we
will
also
increase
the
number
of
Spanish
speaking
officers
and
continue
our
commitment
to
the
30x30
initiative
to
attract
and
hire
more
women
to
the
police
department.
Finally,
the
ability
to
sustain
meaningful
engagement.
We
will
report
annually
with
the
number
of
problem
solving
projects
completed
with
neighborhoods
and
communities,
with
historically
disproportionate
policing
impacts
and
stakeholder
satisfaction
with
those
processes.
AH
In
addition,
we
will
participate
in
ongoing
partnership
projects
developed
in
collaboration
with
the
youth
opportunities
Advisory
board,
with
collaborative
projects,
as
well
as
consultation
with
the
Boulder
Police
oversight
panel
on
training
needs
and
policy
updates.
I
hope
this
provided
some
insight
into
the
plan
and
its
implementation
in
our
department.
I
will
now
turn
it
back
over
to
the
city.
T
Manager,
thank
you
and
Under.
The
Umbrella
of
other
duties,
as
assigned
I've,
been
asked
to
sort
of
jump
in
on
funding
at
a
high
level
and
I'm
going
to
do
my
best
impression
of
Mark,
wolf
and
so
apologize
to
him
in
advance,
as
we
were
going
through
this,
but
I'll
say
similar
to
previous
Master
plans.
This
one
calls
for
more
resources,
which
is
what
we
see
in
most
of
our
Master
plans,
but
the
predominant
one
here
really
involves
Personnel.
T
It's
not
surprising,
as
this
new
approach
focuses
on
shifting
culture
and
the
Very
orientation
of
policing
to
create
space
for
more
proactive
strategies
and
increase
time
spent
with
Community.
But
the
way
this
plan
is
structured
also
means
that
there
could
be
other
factors
that
impact
funding
in
different
ways
for
examples.
T
As
we
lean
into
the
holistic
governance
model,
it
could
be
that
additional
monies
spent
on
Behavioral
Health
responses,
such
as
the
existing
co-responder
team
and
the
launch
of
the
new
care
team
in
the
coming
months,
result
in
a
diversion
of
calls
that
PD
would
ordinarily
respond
to.
Similarly,
as
funding
for
more
social
services
and
housing
addresses
the
issues
of
our
unhoused
community
increase
increases,
we
would
hope
to
see
a
corresponding
reduction
in
the
calls
for
service
PD
receives
in
this
regard.
T
T
The
shift
to
the
rule
of
6
60
looks
to
require
between
8
to
14
new
officers,
but
the
report
also
points
to
other
factors
that
we
need
to
consider
as
well
and
in
a
year
where
the
budgetary
word
of
the
day
for
2024
for
I'm
sure
you
can
all
say
it
with
me.
It's
constraint.
We
take
to
heart
the
notion
that
BPD
must
focus
on
filling
its
vacancies,
something
it
is
working
hard
to
do
already
currently
approved
at
191
sworn
officers.
T
T
It
is
for
this
reason
that
the
funding
aspects
of
the
plan
are
a
bit
different
than
other
plans
as
a
traditional,
tiered
approach
of
fiscally
constrained
action
and
vision.
Just
don't
quite
work
here.
Staffing
based
on
calls
for
service
in
the
rule
of
60
model
are
impacted
by
other
levers
that
could
be
pulled
by
other
departments
and
will'll
need
to
continue
to
address
future
Staffing
by
examining
all
those
within
this
holistic
governance
model,
including
BPD
I,
think
I
share.
T
In
the
future,
but
it
could
also
mean
that
the
demand
for
calls
in
the
future
could
also
shift
to
address
other
possibilities
like
increase
in
in
crime
Trends
or
increase
in
drug
related
calls
for
service,
given
the
influx
of
fentel,
we're
seeing
now
Across
the
Nation
and
in
our
city
that
may
require
us
to
actually
increase
Staffing
even
more
in
the
future.
So,
while
the
plan
includes
an
aspirational
goal
of
14
addition,
officers
to
hit
a
potential
go
number
of
205
per
the
more
fullsome
recommendation
offered
by
Dr.
T
Pay
will
need
to
continue
this
analysis
to
see
if
additional
levers
in
other
areas
could
impact
that
number
in
different
ways,
just
like
other
Master
plans.
Many
of
you
have
seen.
Acceptance
of
this
plan
speaks
to
acceptance
of
its
vision
and
goals.
Strategies
like
additional
resources
for
funding
and
programs
are
not
set
in
stone,
as
those
must
go
through
the
regular
budget
cycles
and
are
subject
to
budgetary
approval
by
me
and
certainly
by
you,
as
well
as
in
as
all
Personnel
request.
A
final
note
on
Staffing
on
funding
as
well.
T
Similarly
leveraging
the
engagement
Enterprise
of
the
comm's
team,
expertise
of
the
comm's
team
and
amplify
engagement
and
relationship
strategies
could
address
the
increased
engagement
strategies
that
this
plan
calls
for.
Finally,
I'll
say
that
likely
increased
resources
would
be
needed
for
a
joint
BPD
CU
Academy
I'm
particularly
excited
about
this
possibility.
It
was
really
enable
us
to
train
officers
in
ways
that
reflect
our
values
better,
but,
frankly,
we
need
to
get
it
through
the
hurdle
of
post
certification.
First
before
we
think
of
earm
maring
resources.
T
Yet
it
could
be
that
it
comes
to
counsel
in
the
form
of
a
future
ATB
or
depending
on
timing
or
approval
in
the
2025
budget,
but
we'll
certainly
be
coming
back
to
council
if
we're
able
to
move
forward
on
this
aspect
of
the
plan
at
as
it
is
one
of
the
most
critical
aspects
and
one
of
those
in
which
we
really
lift
our
values
and
priorities
as
a
city,
all
this
to
say
is
that
we're
committed
to
continuing
to
work
with
BPD
to
best
determine
its
exact
resource
needs
in
the
future
and
we'll
be
having
continued
conversations
with
all
of
you
through
our
budgetary
cycle
process.
AD
N
AD
Mark
and
Emily
I
think
you're
ready.
We
have
a
short
video
and
then
we're
we're
almost
done
folks.
So
Emily's
going
to
play.
B
AD
No
Emily
would
it
help
who
we've
got
some
Echoes
here?
Would
it
help
if
I
had
I
I
have
a
subcommittee
member
here
and
I
can
introduce
her
and
she
can
do
her
two
minutes
for
Council,
while
you're
sorting
that
out
does
that
work.
AD
Situation
but
yeah
that
work
okay,
so
Council
earlier
we
mentioned
the
process
subcommittee,
which
obviously
some
of
our
council
members
have
been
on
and
I
want
to
say
that
our
two
community
members
that
were
mentioned,
while
our
council
members
rotated
halfway
through
our
two
community
members,
have
hung
in
there
with
us
for
two
and
a
half
years.
That's
Marina
lrav
and
mallerie
Kate.
So
we
cannot
thank
them
enough
for
their
their
service
and
Marina.
AD
Would
you
like
to
come
up
come
up
to
the
podium?
I
know
you
were
going
to
say
a
few
words
about
your
experience
in
in
the.
AK
Process
hi
good
evening,
Marina
I'm
here
as
a
community
member
and
part
of
the
committee,
I
was
just
thrilled
when
I
was
elected
as
part
of
this
committee,
because
I've
been
a
victim's
advocate
for
Boulder
PD
for
over
20
years.
So
I
have
seen
you
know
firsthand
what
happens
with
an
old
system.
I
just
want
to
say
that
it
was
amazing
to
see
seven
leaders
that
join
me
in
this
committee
to
really
make
sure
that
we
brought
meaningful
conversations
and
our
communities
concerns
and
voices
to
the
space.
AK
So
we
make
sure
that
we
integrated
those
voices
throughout
the
two
and
a
half
years
of
work.
It
was
also
an
amazing
experience
for
me
personally
seeing
how
these
leaders
connected
with
The
Academy
of
policing
and
so
many
officers,
and
it
was
really
a
DI
Deep
dive
to
to
this
conversation
that
resulted
in
a
last
meeting.
I
think
it
was
on
the
21st
24th.
AG
AK
Last
week,
somehow,
when
the
community
members
I
think
17
Community
next
community
members
came
to
Boulder
PD
for
dinner
and
being
exposed
to
this
master
plan.
Final
draft
for
them
to
to
also
you
know,
see
the
results
of
such
hard
work.
Four
of
them
are
here
tonight
with
me.
They
were
so
engaged
during
this
time
that
they
can.
AK
You
raise
your
hands
see
so
so
they
were
engaged
for
two
and
a
half
years,
and
they
are
here
today
to
testify-
and
we
know
that
this
is
not
an
easy
task
to
have
our
light.
Community
come
forward
and
grab
share
their
opinions.
AK
I
personally
want
to
say
that
I
fully
endorse
and
I'm
excited
about
this
plan,
because
it
really
brings
some
something
that
the
latinx
or
communities
of
color
have
suffered
for
ages,
not
to
say
decades,
but
that
they
conversations
need
to
be
had
and
compassion
needs
to
be
brought
to
the
table
before
punishment
is
applied.
So
I
am
really
excited
about
this
master
plan.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you
so
much.
B
Well,
Marina
you're
just
we're
very
much
in
your
debt.
Thank
you
for
that
two
and
a
half
years
of
service.
B
I
Can
I
just
say
as
a
a
sub
Committee
Member,
my
thanks
to
Marina
as
well.
You
brought
really
helpful
and
no
you
you
could
sit
down.
Please
I
just
wanted
to
gush
over
you
for
a
second
you.
You
had
just
such
useful
perspective
and
you
thought
just
broadly
about
engagement
in
ways
that
we
would
have
missed
without
you.
So
thank
you
for
putting
in
all
those
hours
it.
It
meant
a
lot
and
it
help
helped
and
it
got
us
to
a
better
place.
Thanks.
AK
J
X
AC
AL
AN
AH
The
community's
told
us
loud
and
clear:
we
need
to
do
things
differently,.
AC
AC
AG
AC
B
AD
Is
we
had
some
success
playing
it
here
in
Chambers
earlier
this
afternoon
and
I
know
that
that
causes
challenges
on
Zoom?
Is
there
an
option
if
this
isn't
working
for
us
to
play
it
in
Chambers
and
then
post
the
link.
AC
AP
AR
AO
AC
AP
The
reimagining
policing
plan
I
do
like
how
it's
being
thought
of
as
connected
to
the
whole
city
and
not
just
something
the
Department's
doing
in
isolation
and
bringing
in
the
city
bringing
in
housing
and
Human
Services,
forcing
people
to
collaborate.
That's
what
I
would
give
props
for
just
things.
Moving
in
the
right
direction,.
AJ
We
have
a
new
recruiting
plan
that
we've
implemented,
we're
talking
to
underrepresented
populations,
we're
going
to
be
going
on
to
historically
black
colleges,
areas
that
we
haven't
historically
looked
at
in
the
past,
and
what
we're
finding
is
people
that
are
coming
in
that
want
to
be
part
of
the
change.
I.
AS
AT
AI
AE
AE
AH
AI
AV
AC
AH
AO
AD
A
AD
Nothing
nothing
to
see
here
folks,
so
I
I
will
also.
We
had
Marina
come
and
speak
earlier,
while
we're
working
on
our
technical
difficulties,
I.
Also
our
other
subcommittee
Community
member
malary
Kates
was
not
able
to
be
here
tonight,
but
she
did
send
a
written
statement
that
she
asked
me
to
read.
So
I'll
read
that
for
her
now
my
name
is
mallerie.
AD
Kates
I've
been
a
resident
of
Boulder
for
over
25
years
and
have
lived
at
the
pelaton
condominium
complex
since
2015
I
now
serve
as
the
president
of
its
homeowners
association
board,
a
board
that
represents
nearly
400
homes,
seven
on-site
businesses
and
a
population
of
approximately
650
residents.
My
involvement
with
our
Police
Department
began
with
the
citizens
engagement
panel
under
Chief,
Greg
Testa
and
I
continued
on
that
panel
after
chief
Harold
came
on
board.
AD
I've
also
been
part
of
the
reimagine
policing
process
subcommittee,
since
its
Inception
I
believe
that
almost
everyone
on
city
council,
as
well
as
my
Fel
fellow
panelists
on
this
subcommittee,
are
well-intentioned
and
want
what
is
best
for
Boulder.
But
my
experience
with
this
process
committee
has
left
me
feeling
worried
about
where
our
city
is
headed.
I,
think
we
wasted
money
resources
in
time
by
dragging
out
an
important
step
toward
improving
policing
in
Boulder.
AD
Just
a
few
key
participants
working
together
with
Chief
heral,
could
have
achieved
the
same
result
in
a
fraction
of
the
time
and,
what's
more
important
could
have
sent
a
better
message
to
all
our
communities
and
the
women
and
men
of
our
police
force.
What
I
hear
every
day
is
that
people
in
my
community
are
angry
and
afraid
they
are
afraid
to
walk
or
ride
on
the
bike
paths.
AD
They
are
nervous
and
disgusted
by
what
they
see
downtown
and
they
are
angry
about
the
thefts
in
our
locked
underground
garage
and
they
are
really
upset
at
what
they
perceive
is
a
police
department
that
is
being
poorly
supported
by
the
majority
of
our
city.
Council.
Yes,
policing
in
Boulder
and
in
cities
across
this
County
can
and
must
do
better.
Our
current
chief
seems
to
have
a
cleared
view
of
what
it
would
take
to
improve,
not
only
our
police
department,
but
also
the
Safety
and
Security
of
all
residents.
AD
So
that's
the
end
of
mallerie's
statement
so
with
that
that,
oh
dear
I,
think
we
chose
the
wrong
staff
member
to
run
the
slideshow
tonight
as
part
of
our
ongoing
Emily
there
we
go
the
motion
so
we're
back
to
our
Mo
our
motion,
our
suggested
motion
that
we
showed
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
and
then
we
will
turn
it
over
to
council
for
the
next
steps
in
our
public
hearing,
questions
and
disc
discussion.
B
All
right,
well
Wendy,
thanks
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
deputy
chief
Redfern
and
chief
Harold
and
Robin,
and
everyone
who
spoke
tonight
really
appreciate
all
of
that
information
on
this
very
exciting
reaging
plan.
So
our
order
actually
now
would
be
clarifying
questions
from
Council
and
then
public
testimony.
So
if
we
can
get
to
questions
but
just
keeping
in
mind,
we
have
three
35
people
that
are
waiting
to
speak
to
us.
If
we
can
be
succinct
in
our
questions,
that
would
be
phenomenal.
Do
we
have
any
I
got
Mark
and
then.
G
Nicole,
some
of
these
are
going
to
be
information,
requests
that
that
we're
not
going
to
satisfy
tonight
but
I
I
just
want
to
ask
the
questions
and
perhaps
we
can
develop
the
information.
I
I
saw
that
in
looking
at
the
distribution
of
calls
for
service,
the
only
other
Colorado
City
in
the
group
of
midsize
cities
is
Fort
Collins.
Can
we
develop
or
get
any
information
with
respect
to
say,
longm
and
Colorado
Springs.
G
Yes,
we
can
at
your
convenience.
Second,
the
idea
that
1%
of
the
addresses
in
Boulder
are
the
source
of
onethird.
Of
all
calls
for
service
and
10%
are
the
source
of
72%.
Of
calls
for
service
is,
is
really
quite
shocking.
Are
the
particular
characteristics
of
these.
AC
Addresses
yeah
so
Boulder's
not
unique.
This
is
crime
science
principles
that
are
the
same
in
Denver
as
they
are
anywhere
in
the
United
States.
But
yes,
what
we
see
in
the
majority
of
these
locations
is
either
overwhelmed:
landlords,
landlords
that
are
absentee
Management
systems
that
fail
to
address
the
complexities
of
some
of
the
people
that
they
Place
into.
AC
G
Thank
you
and
last
question
take
a
concrete
example.
How
would
this
program
handle
say
current
conditions
on
the
mall
which
are
affecting
a
lot
of
businesses
and
we're
hearing?
A
lot
of
you
know
calls
for
assistance
from
those
businesses.
How
would
this
actually
differ
in
terms
of
how
we're
dealing
with
that.
AC
G
AC
The
issues
on
Pearl
Street
that
we're
seeing
right
now
really
have
a
lot
to
do
with
the
unfortunate
Fentanyl
and
meth
methamphetamine
issues
that
we're
being
flooded
with
right
now
and
so
again.
A
whole
list
approach
working
with
other
City
departments,
which
we
started.
This
work
on
Pearl
Street,
but
we
are
lacking
police
visibility
on
Pearl
Street
right
now,
I
have
gone
from
an
eight
person,
Pearl
Street
team,
Mall
team
to
a
three-person
Mall
team,
which
is
a
reflection
of
Staffing.
AC
Most
of
the
problems
on
Pearl
Street
can
be
addressed
with
high
visibility
patrols,
but
there's
other
things
other
City
dep
departments
could
do
to
help,
and
you
know
we're
working
through
some
of
these
issues.
Right
now,
with
the
city
manager's
office,
the
municipal
court
system,
the
prosecutors,
you
know,
parks
and
wrecks.
So
we
would
like
to
put
a
whole
problem
solving
team
around
these
issues,
but
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
we
see
on
the
business
Community
is
partnership
and
doing
crime
prevention
assessments
with
the
businesses,
but
literally
May,
PRM
wallik.
AC
We
we
are
understaffed
on
the
Pearl
Street
Mall
and
I
really
believe
that,
as
Staffing
increases,
deputy
chief
Redfern
has
to
get
some
more
police
officers
down
on
Pearl
Street.
That's
just
the
number
one
thing,
because
visibility
stops
a
lot
of
this
from
happening
in
the
first
place.
I.
G
Hope,
that's
helpful.
Yes,
it
is
my
then
my
question
is
for
city
manager.
Is
there
any
possibility
of
providing
those
resources
this
year,
or
is
that
going
to
have
to
be
for
the
2025
budget.
T
I
will
say
that
it
depends
right
again
in
my
in
my
word
of
the
day
constraint.
T
It
will
depend
on
when
we're
able
to
move
forward
I
if
we
are
able
to
fill
the
current
vacancies,
which
is
the
first
I
would
say.
Priority
and
I
know
that
PD
is
hoping
to
have
between
8
and
12
and
maybe
all
17
filled
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Then
we
could
be
coming
back
to
council
with
an
ATB
to
discuss
potentially
additional
resources,
if
that
is
what
it
takes.
But
we've
got
some
vacancies
to
fill
right
now
and
I
would
say
that
that
is
what
our
initial
focus
is
on.
B
G
B
V
V
Actually,
thank
you
so
on
the
the
engagement
summary
document.
Thank
you
for
providing
that
and
putting
it
all
together,
like
that.
There
were
a
bunch
of
groups
that
were
listed
as
having
been
reached
out
to
for
engagement
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
many
of
those
groups
engaged
in
that.
U
Without
looking
at
the
list,
I
can't
give
you
an
exact
count.
I
would
say
that
we
got
some
engagement
from
almost
every
group.
Some
was
more,
some
had
more
participants,
some
had
fewer
participants,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
realize
is
that,
depending
on
where
folks
are
starting
from
their
ability
to
engage
in,
this
kind
of
conversation
might
be
limited,
so,
for
example,
for
reaching
out
to
people
who
have
experienced
homeless
or
home
lessness
or
currently
unhoused.
U
We
were
a
were
more
successful
at
talking
to
folks
who
have
recently
transitioned
to
housing,
because
some
of
their
basic
needs
have
been
addressed,
so
they
are
able
to
have
a
conversation
in
this
vein,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
learned
is
that
we
have
to
meet
people's
basic
needs
before
they
can
engage
in
their
civic
life.
So
we
were
more
successful,
for
example,
reaching
people
who
have
transitioned.
U
We
did
have
a
couple
of
one
opportunity
in
particular
at
the
shelter
as
folks
were
checking
in,
so
they
were
getting
their
basic
needs,
met
and
also
being
able
to
give
us
feedback,
and
that
was
quite
successful.
V
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
N
I
think
these
next
couple
may
be
for
you.
So
you
know
when
we're
looking
at,
for
example,
the
additional
Staffing
that's
proposed
in
the
plan.
Where
are
we
at
in
terms
of
writing
these
strategic
plans
at
a
vision,
level
versus
not
a
vision
level,
because
I
know
I,
think
Bob?
You
were
the
one
who
oh
well
Bob.
Hopefully
you
can.
He
was
that
you
know
one
of
the
initial
ones
who
raised
this
when
I
first
got
on
Council
like
hey.
V
T
I
love
the
question
council
member.
It
is
something
that
we
will
be
engaging
FSC
the
financial
strategies
committee
as
well
it.
It
is
part
of
our
year
three
of
financial
improvements
that
we
have
been
on
a
journey
on
with
staff
along
with
kpis.
We
we
hope
to
a
first
of
all,
not
call
these
Master
plans
anymore.
T
The
term
master
has
some
historical
connotations
that
we
want
to
get
away
from
and
think
about
more
about
holistic
strategic
plans
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
are
in
that
process
of
thinking
about
Citywide
strategic
plans
that
don't
throw
away
previous.
There
are
existing
plans
that
exist.
How
do
we
braid
them
all
together?
T
So
I
think
that
is
work
that
you're
going
to
continue
to
see
in
2024,
along
with
some
work
that
I
know,
mayor
protm
is,
along
with
me
very
active
in
seeing
which
your
kpi,
so
that
we
can
perhaps
even
next
year
talk
about
things
we
stop
doing
so
we
can
fund
other
things.
V
Great,
thank
you
and
then
my
other
question
is
just
one
of
the
sections
in
the
plan
ends
with
a
note
about
how
unusual
it
is
for
cities
to
fund
housing
and
Human
Services
at
the
same
level
that
we
fund
police,
which
was
cool
to
hear
and
I,
think
you
know
looking
at
Staffing,
the
police
department
has
almost
200
sworn
officers
or
at
least
open
positions,
and
about
80
or
90
other
positions.
V
It's
the
highest
staff
department
by
far
housing
and
Human
Services
has
around
70
or
so
positions
and
I,
don't
think
they're
pay
being
paid
four
times.
What
are
police
are
being
paid?
If
so,
we
should.
V
We
not
hear
constraint,
I
know
exactly
so.
I
I
was
just
wondering
you
know,
given
the
amount
each
dep
spend
is
about
the
same.
What
accounts
for
those
big
differences
in
Staffing.
AD
Sure
so,
council,
member
spear,
thank
you
for
that
question,
whereas
the
police
department
has
a
lot
of
individual
staff
members
delivering
services
on
the
ground,
housing
and
Human
Services
has
some
staff
members
like
that,
but
we're
predominantly
in
the
business
of
providing
money
to
community
organizations
to
provide
human
servic
or
there's
our
housing
funds
which
go
into
affordable
housing,
and
so
the
difference
is
the
really
the
the
needs
of
the
two
departments.
In
terms
of
how
do
you
get
the
help
on
the
ground
to
the
people.
V
B
V
Yep,
okay,
cool
and
then
I
just
had
a
question
for
the
chief.
If
you
don't
mind,
I
can
get
you
to
stand
up
and
it's
just
kind
of
around
the
process,
and
you
know
how
this
all
unfolded
took
an
awful
long
time.
You
know
the
scope
kind
of
expanded
a
bit
and
I'm
just
wondering
Looking
Back
Now,
as
you
know,
we're
at
the
end
of
it
tonight
is
there
anything
that
you
would
change
about
how
this
unfolded
or
where
it
has
led
us.
AC
Well,
that's
a
great
question
council
member
spear,
honestly
I
wish
it
wouldn't
have
taken
so
much
time
and
I
wish
I
always
wish
that
we
have
really
good
dialogue
with
everybody
in
our
community,
so
things
you
know
you
have
to
think
that
you
just
you
got
to
remain
at
the
table
until
we
get
everybody
talking
and
I'm
I'm
willing
to
be
the
last
person
at
the
table,
but
those
two
things:
I
am
so
passionate
about
implementation
of
these
ideas
because
I
know
it
will.
AC
It
will
safeguard
against
all
of
the
tragedies
that
that
I've
witnessed
for
30
years
in
my
career,
this
is
the
best
shot
that
we
know
of
right
now:
science,
Partnerships
collaboration.
This
is
our
best
shot
to
ensure
that
we
do
not
see
another
George,
Floyd
and
I'm
pretty
darn.
Confident
of
that
I
hope
I
answered
your
question,
but.
AC
W
Juny.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
I
do
have
some
comments
for
later
now
we're
just
asking
for
clarifying
questions.
Deputy
Chief,
Red
Fern
mentioned
20
by
30,
hiring
more
women
and
I
wanted
to
ask
him
how
many
women
are
currently
in
the
force
at
this
time.
AR
That
good
evening,
Council
I'm
Ron
gosage,
deputy
chief
with
the
Boulder
Police
Department,
have
some
demographics
for
you
currently
sorry
I
put
on
my
old
guy
glasses
as
discussed
earlier.
Currently
we
have
174
officers
of
those
174.
We
have
140
males.
We
have
34
females
right
now,
that's
19.5%,
which
is
above
the
national
average.
We
have
work
to
do,
but
those
are
the
females.
We
have
11
black
officers
that
equates
to
6%.
We
have
22
Hispanic
officers,
that's
13%,
six
Asian
officers,
that's
3%
and
one
multi-racial
officer
for
half
a.
W
Percent,
thank
you
for
that.
I
have
a
my
next
question
is:
is
a
bit
of
a
hybrid
question.
It's
it
Encompass,
both
the
funding
piece
that
my
CD
manager
was
talking
about
it
sounding
as
if
the
funding
will
be
needed
for
14,
more
officers
and
also
it
would
cover
Outreach
and
so
Community
Solutions,
but
I
feel
like
as
part
of
the
presentation.
W
What
I
didn't
hear
as
much,
because
I
heard
all
the
great
ways
that
we're
making
the
community
better
engaging
and
also
ensuring
that
officers
are
properly
trained
or
better
trained
through
acmis.
But
I
didn't
hear
as
much
about
the
mental
health
support
piece
and
again
we
hear
how
important
is
mental
health
in
community,
especially
for
police
officers
that
are
working
on
the
front
line
and
I
wanted
to
know.
Is
that
also
reflected
as
part
of
the
budgetary
funding
that
you
were
looking
at
for
allocation.
AH
It's
a
great
question
council
member
Joseph
and
something
as
the
police
Command
Staff,
that
we're
trying
to
address
every
single
day.
I
can
say
that
we
do
currently
have
some
funding
in
our
current
budget,
as
well
as
a
2024
budget,
to
specifically
deal
with
Wellness
for
our
support
and
commissioned
officers.
It
is
something
that
we
will
continue
to
ask
for
funding
for
so
we
can
ensure
that
our
officers
are
providing
the
best
service
coming
to
work
mentally
and
physically.
AH
B
Great
well
seeing
no
other
questions,
then
we
can
go
to
the
public
hearing.
We've
got
35
people
signed
up,
that's
26
in
person
and
nine
remote
you'll.
Each
have
two
minutes
to
speak.
If
you
can
start
queuing
up,
as
your
name
is
called,
that
would
be
wonderful
and
you
are
entitled
to
your
2
minutes.
But
if
other
people
have
said
something
similar
to
what
you're
going
to
say,
you
can
always
cut
a
little
shorter.
If
you
would
like
just
saying
our
first
three
speakers
are
Laura
Hager,
Myra,
Martinez
and
Anna
Sophia
Laura.
B
B
AW
AJ
AW
Martinez
is.
AK
AW
AK
I
had
the
honor
of
being
presented,
the
the
the
final
draft
of
the
master
plan
and
I
think
it's
spoton
and
it
really
will
will
bring
back
the
confidence
that
the
community
is
lacking
towards
the
police
department
in
law
enforcement.
AK
B
You,
okay
well,
and
next
we
have
Anna
Sophia.
AX
AK
Hi,
my
name
is
caros
and
I'm
here
supporting
the
reimagining
policing
plan.
AX
AX
AK
I
think
this
is
a
good
plan
that
really
will
benefit
all
of
the
citizens,
especially
those
who
don't
trust
the
police.
AX
AK
So,
in
order
to
implement
this
plan,
we
most
certainly
have
to
work
collaboratively
and
where
everybody
is
able
to
collaborate
and
work
with
the
police,
the
government
and
Community
leaders
and
the
community
at.
AX
AK
I
have
learned
firsthand
from
people
from
the
latinx
community
and
the
African-American
Community
about
the
lack
of
trust
that
they
have
in
the
police
department,
and
this
is
why
we
most
definitely
have
to
work
in
collaboration
with
the
police.
AX
AK
And
this
is
why
we're
here
and
representing
the
community
so
that
we
can
really
look
endorse
the
changes
that
we're
trying
to
move
forward.
AX
B
A
AK
AB
Leevy,
okay,
hello,
how
are
you
my
name
is
Mara
Sanchez.
We
have
the
the
great
benefit
to
listen
to
the
whole
plan
and
I
was
very
much
impressed
by
you
know
the
whole
concept
behind
division,
especially
because
it
was
a
a
a
a
process
that
was
moving
from
reactive
approach
to
proactive
approach.
It
was
very
much
into
the
connecting
with
the
community
and
creating
relationship
of
trust
that
I
think
it's
so
important
and
integrate
the
whole
community
in
many
ways
the
words
trust,
compassion,
safety
and
really
caring
about
the
community
was.
AB
What
impacted
me.
The
most
and
also
the
leadership,
was
very.
Very
I.
I
was
very
much
impacted
by
that
because
they
truly
meaning
mean
it.
You
know
you
have
a
plan
many
times,
but
the
there
the
people
behind
it
they
don't
they
don't
truly
mean
it.
So,
in
my
opinion,
this
team
is
is
going
to
make
it
happen.
So
thank
you
very
much.
AV
Campbell
hi
I'm
Ana,
and
thank
you
both
everyone.
It's
also
my
first
time
here.
So
it's
nice
I
was
able
to
see
the
plan
last
two
weeks
ago
and
I
feel
like
it's
a
very
powerful
plan,
and
also
it
really
like
Visions
in
Visions,
like
all
the
values
that
the
police
has
and
also
like.
How
are
they
willing
to
really
make
a
change
and
also
taking
into
consideration
the
community?
So
thank
you.
B
AY
Yes,
good
evening,
I'm
David,
Campell
I
came
to
Boulder
in
1994
earned
a
degree
from
CU
in
'98
and
as
an
entrepreneur,
I've
created
hundreds
of
jobs
here
in
Boulder.
My
partner
is
a
10-year
professor.
At
the
University
for
16
years.
We
are
proud
parents
of
five
children
in
Boulder.
The
youngest
is
in
elementary
school
two
high
schoolers
and
two
college
students.
Over
the
past
few
years,
we
have
been
appalled
at
the
State
of
Affairs
as
it
relates
to
law
enforcement
in
Boulder
and
our
children
don't
feel
safe
riding
the
bus.
AY
They
don't
feel
safe,
riding
their
bikes
to
school
and
I.
Call
upon
this
city
council
to
support
Chief,
Harold
and
the
rest
of
the
fine
folks
at
Boulder
Police
to
allow
them
to
do
their
job.
Our
children
are
our
future
and
we
are
not
adequately
investing
in
protect
protecting
their
future
right
now.
Thank
you.
L
AU
Friends
on
Council,
my
name
is
Russell:
Chandler
live
at
5:30,
Hawthorne,
see
class
of
1985
homeowner
since
88
resident
since
'94
small
business
owner
and
a
commercial
tenant.
AU
I'm
asking
my
friends
on
the
council:
please
vote
for
the
reimagine
policing
plan.
Policing
in
many
communities
does
not
work
well,
because
it
is
reaction,
Ary
and
not
proactive.
What
BPD
is
proposing
represents
a
paradigm
shift
in
how
we
care
for
all
members
of
our
community,
especially
those
not
historically
well
represented.
Traditional
policing
involves
responding
to
repeated
emergencies,
usually
coming
from
known
trouble,
areas
in
town
and
then
failing
to
solve
the
crimes
due
to
lack
of
resources.
Very
often,
the
crime
could
have
been
prevented
in
the
first
place.
Based
upon
the
data
available.
AU
This
Progressive
plan
will
follow
the
example
set
in
New
Zealand
and
other
Forward
Thinking
governments
around
the
world
by
leveraging
our
police
force
as
active
community
members
preventing
crimes
instead
of
waiting
for
them
to
occur.
Our
chief
has
taken
a
bold
step
forward
that
many
others
in
her
role
would
shy
away
from.
She
deserves
a
unanimous
vote
of
council
approving
and
funding
this
plan.
AU
Lastly,
I
would
just
like
to
see
us
do
a
little
bit
more
to
get
more
than
10
police
officers
out
of
the
171
actually
being
able
to
live
in
the
community
and
be
with
us
in
this
community,
and
that's
a
that's,
a
big
housing
issue
that
we
all
know
about.
Thank
you.
AZ
This
plan
outlines
Innovative
strategies
to
provide
enhanced
safety
of
our
shared
public
spaces
and
offers
Chief
heral
and
her
team
the
opportunity
to
streamline
internal
processes
fostering
greater
efficiency.
Solving
today's
complex
societal
issues
requires
a
collaborative
mindset,
shared
responsibility
among
a
variety
of
stakeholders
and
cross-disciplinary
efforts,
just
as
the
plan
suggests,
the
plan
ensures
the
continuation
of
vital
resources,
such
as
the
homeless,
Outreach
team
and
dedicated
officers
assigned
to
the
downtown
district.
These
resources
are
essential
to
our
business
community
and
must
not
only
persist
but
unequivocally
be
expanded
to
create
safe
and
welcoming
public
spaces.
AZ
The
plan
is
well
informed
by
Community
insights
and
comprehensive
data
analysis
objectives
are
transparent,
arent
and
action
oriented
and
the
evaluation
framework
is
robust.
Our
community's
challenges
are
multifaceted
and
not
isolated
to
Boulder
Place,
Management
organizations,
Chambers
tourism
offices,
service
providers,
as
well
as
La
law
enforcement
and
City
officials,
Nationwide,
are
all
contending
with
issues
related
to
unsheltered
individuals,
drug
abuse,
crime
and
the
acute
shortage
of
Mental
Health
Resources.
The
reimagined
policing
plan
offers
a
roadmap
potential
Solutions
and
most
crucially
much
needed
support
for
our
officers.
AZ
AQ
Good
evening,
we
all
know
that
crime,
mental
health
and
drug
addiction
and
Boulder
is
impacting
all
of
us.
I
looked
for
some
data
dat
to
compare
Boulder
with
other
cities.
The
most
recent
I
could
find
is,
according
to
the
FBI
Uniform
Crime
reporting
data
in
2021,
as
reported
in
2022
I
found
it
interesting
that
one
in
27
people
in
Boulder
were
Crime
Victims
in
2021.
Boulder
crime
rates
are
63%
higher
than
the
national
average.
AQ
At
that
time,
crime
was
Rising
year-over-year
by
almost
20%
I,
continue
to
be
both
personally
shocked
and
fearful
for,
for
my
family,
trying
to
recreate
in
Boulder
there's
a
lot
of
extreme
aggressions
and
few
consequences
in
our
Boulder
Public
spaces
city
council.
I
really
hope
that
you
will
trust
the
citizens,
the
city
staff
and
the
experts
who
brought
forth
the
reimagine
policing
plan.
Please
support
and
fund
our
police
keep
our
friends
and
family
safe.
Thank
you.
BA
Wheen
hi
I'm,
Michael,
broer
I
feel
very
safe
here
with
a
dozen
Boulder
Police
behind
me,
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
one's
personal
property
and
safety,
along
with
wholesale
disregard
for
laws,
has
increased
in
the
past
several
years.
This
should
not
be
an
acceptable
option.
Last
week,
a
friend
and
I
decided
to
look
at
the
issue
of
crime
and
safety
from
the
perspective
of
business
owners
on
Pearl
Street,
our
sandals
on
the
ground,
research
and
discussions
with
shopkeepers
yielded
seever.
BA
Several
takeaways
100%
of
owners
have
seen
a
market
increase
in
crime,
especially
in
the
last
three
years.
Broken
windows
grab
and
go
theft
and
burglary
are
common
police
interaction
when
a
situation
arises,
has
been
exceptional,
rapid
response,
many
times
within
minutes
and
always
responsible
and
professional
assistance.
Our
observation
overall
is
that
the
owners
are
totally
exasperated
and
do
not
know
how
to
respond
other
than
to
rely
on
the
police.
When
an
incident
occurs,
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
a
great
long-term
strategy
and
way
for
them
to
conduct
or
stay
in
business.
BA
We
spotted
a
police
officer,
walking
the
beat
and
engaged
in
a
longer
conversation
concerning
safety
and
crime.
Several
takeaways
the
force
is
terribly
understaffed
example.
His
shift
has
eight
officers
if
one
calls
in
six
they're
down
to
seven
when
a
mental
health
incident
occurs,
they
respond
with
two
officers.
Thus,
five
officers
are
there
to
cover
the
city,
which
also
includes
Gun
Barrel,
so
the
police
department's
mission
is
to
partner
with
the
community
and
provide
services
and
safety
it.
BA
The
officer
said
it's
critical
to
have
community
and
Council
support
for
the
Department
to
effectively
provide
safety
and
service
and
tapping
out
vote
for
the
increase
of
headcount
by
mere
7%
or
15
recruits.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
Michael.
BB
Spalding
hi
there
it's
Terry
renich
thanks
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight,
I'm
here
to
express
my
support
for
the
reimagining
policing
plan.
Chief
heral
is
recognized
as
one
of
the
most
Progressive
police
Chiefs
in
the
country
and
has
consistently
demonstrated
through
her
actions
over
the
past
three
years.
A
thorough
understanding
of
the
issues
and
an
intense
motivation
for
excellence
through
her
Relentless
focus
on
metrics
and
results.
She
has
elevated
the
entire
Boulder
policing
operation.
The
reimagining
policing
plan
supports
evidence-based
strategies
that
will
effectively
and
ethically
address
crime
in
a
proactive
manner.
BB
The
plan
is
supported
by
a
diverse
group
of
community
members,
Who
provided
input
towards
its
development
and
addresses
many
of
the
concerns
around
police,
best
practices
and
accountability
that
City
leadership
has
been
asking
for.
Our
community
has
demanded
policing
reforms,
and
our
police
department
has
responded
with
this
comprehensive
data
informed
plan.
Now
we
just
need
to
let
them
execute
and
provide
them
with
the
support
needed
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
will
have
the
maximum
chance
of
success.
Please
support
this
plan
thanks
thanks,
Terry.
AL
AL
AL
So
if
you
actually
look
at
the
number
and
how
we're
interconnected
just
finding
homes
and
treating
people
is
not
enough,
we
need
a
a
way
to
deter
and
eject
violent
individuals
that
arrive
from
other
cities,
especially
Republican
cities
that
like
to
bust
them
to
us
and
I,
think
that
this
is
a
really
complex
problem
and,
let's
not
ruin
our
city
as
Burlington
Vermont
did
by
defunding
their
police.
Instead,
let's
invest
in
police,
so
I
support
this
plan.
Thanks.
P
We
founded
una
in
2000
after
there
were
two
large
alcohol
fueled
riots
within
the
first
two
weeks
of
students.
Returning
for
the
Autumn
semester,
it's
hard
to
describe
the
fear
and
frustration
permanent
residents
had
between
during
the
10
riots
between
1997
and
2004,
things
began
to
turn
around
when
a
young
petite
police
Sergeant
named
Kim
Stewart,
was
appointed
to
the
head
of
the
Hill
team.
She
embarked
on
a
remarkable
campaign
to
establish
personal
relationships
between
her
officers,
the
neighbors
and
student
Representatives.
P
We
made
many
improvements
to
our
physical
and
cultural
environment
with
the
help
of
the
Hill
team
and
learned
how
Central
the
police
can
be
to
positive
change
in
the
community.
Chief
heral
and
her
team
have
carefully
developed
a
plan
that
embodies
Boulder's
values
and
respects
all
members
of
the
community.
P
Although
the
reimagining
policing
plan
reports
that
people
calling
police
gave
them
high
scores
for
fighting
crime,
it
also
states
that
there's
room
for
improvement
in
how
police
deal
with
neighborhood
problems,
I
suspect
that
score
was
brought
down
by
the
hill,
but
the
acceptance
and
full
funding
of
the
reimagining
policing
plan,
which
will
give
officers
the
opportunity
to
work
proactively
with
the
community
members,
should
bring
that
score
back
up
to
the
top
of
the
chart.
That
aspect
of
the
plan
worked
in
2000
and
it
will
again
thank
you.
AA
Love
hello:
my
name
is
Calvin
Draves
I'm,
a
senior
at
Boulder,
High,
School
and
tonight,
I'm
speaking,
to
endorse
the
reimagining
policing
plan
having
biked
and
walked
through
these
areas
around
Boulder
high
school
every
day.
Over
the
past
few
years,
the
situation
seems
to
be
getting
worse,
I've
seen
two
separate
in
es
where
police,
retreating,
an
overdose
victim.
My
brother
was
evacuated
from
the
sports
field
due
to
the
propane
a
propane
explosion.
AA
My
friend
was
approached
by
a
man
who
tried
to
assault
him
and
steal
his
bike,
and
another
friend
was
harassed
during
photography
class
and
just
yesterday,
A
man
was
arrested
for
dealing
fentanyl
within
1,000
ft
of
BHS
after
being
arrested
2
weeks
ago
for
a
stabbing
incident
in
the
same
area.
In
all
these
cases,
the
police
responded
as
quickly
as
possible
to
to
reass
reassure
us
that
we
were
safe
and
protected.
The
situation
isn't
going
to
improve
unless
we
start
thinking
about
the
problem
differently.
AA
B
B
BC
The
first
time
I
came
to
speak
to
council
I
naively
asked
when
you'd
begin
to
represent
me
I'd
like
to
address
my
thanks
primarily
to
the
council
minority
and
perhaps
the
most
Progressive
professional
in
the
room.
Chief
Harris,
as
she's
presented
an
evidence-based
method
of
policing
for
Boulder,
but
for
the
holistic
governance
portion
of
this
to
be
a
success.
Those
other
government
Partners,
the
so-called
Progressive
63
majority
on
Council,
cannot
continue
enabling
the
problem
as
you
have
the
community
wants
to
see.
BC
The
laws
apply
equally
to
everyone,
not
endless
excuses
for
people
who
break
our
camping
bike
and
car
theft,
vandalism,
illicit
drug
use
and
shoplifting
laws
who
wants
to
be
H
or
die
at
the
hands
of
someone
who
was
just
arrested
by
the
police
for
stabbing.
Someone
or
worse
I
want
to
be
able
to
use
Pearl,
Street
Mall,
our
bike
paths
and
many
of
the
other
special
places.
I
help
pay
for
in
my
41
years,
in
Boulder,
without
being
worried
about
being
assaulted,
injured
by
flying
shrapnel
from
exploding,
propane
tanks,
fires
or
worse
personally,
I.
BC
Don't
need
a
lecture
from
Matt
Benjamin
on
Democracy
when
he
votes
to
overturn
the
will
of
a
53%
majority
who
did
not
want
more
housing
density?
No
for
the
progressives.
You
might
have
fooled
us
once
with
your
campaigns.
I've
watched
your
meetings
every
Thursday
night
for
years,
I
saw
Nicole's
recent
Victory
salute
after
she
voted
against
our
53%
majority,
who
didn't
want
any
increase
in
housing
density.
It's
you
who
do
not
believe
in
representative
democracy.
Therefore,
it's
you
who
should
be
voted
out.
B
Thanks
Linda,
just
reminding
folks
that
we
ask
you
to
refrain
from
U,
audible,
expressions
of
support
or
disagreement
feel
free
to
do
a
jazz
hands
thing.
If
you
hear
something
that
you
like
to
hear,
that's
part
of
our
Rules
of
Engagement,
so
next
three
Valerie,
we
got
you
right
here
and
then
Charlene
Hoffman
and
George
caran.
BD
Hi,
thanks
for
this
Valerie
love,
Boulder,
stabbing
suspect,
arrested
again.
Your
number
one
duty
is
to
create
a
safe
Community.
Violent
crimes
are
up
over
the
past
5
years
on
a
daily
basis.
Our
children
fear
for
their
lives
living
in
Boulder,
because
we
do
not
have
enough
police
on
duty,
nor
a
proper
judicial
system
to
enforce
the
laws
that
are
supposed
to
keep
the
community
safe
officers
arrested
the
same
man
they
arrested
two
weeks
ago
for
stabbing
someone
outside
the
city's
municipal
building
in
the
middle
of
the
day.
BD
In
addition
to
the
stolen
bike,
he
was
riding,
he
had
a
large
amount
of
cash
and
more
than
23
grams
of
fentanyl.
He
was
released
from
jail
without
having
to
post
cash
Bond
and
then
arrested
again.
I
called
the
police
twice
in
the
past
two
weeks
to
report
over
20
people
in
encampments,
doing
drugs
right
outside
of
sporos
on
Pearl
Street,
where
my
high
school
daughter
works,
she's,
consistently
harassed
by
transients
and
feels
so
scared
walking
from
her
job
to
the
car
car.
Only
100
ft
away
that
she
always
carries
pepper
spray.
BD
The
dispatcher
said
they
didn't
have
anyone
to
come
because
they're
underst
staffed
I
asked
how
many
officers
are
on
a
typical
shift
to
protect
our
city
of
over
a
100,000
taxpayers.
Guess
what
she
said:
I'll
fill
you
on
a
secret
Chipotle
has
more
people
on
a
given
shift
than
our
Police
Department.
We
have
eight
eight
officers
on
a
shift
for
all
100,000
citizens.
As
Chief
Herold
said,
Simply
Having,
a
police
presence
on
Pearl,
Street
and
anywhere
in
our
community
deters
criminal
Behavior,
24/7
365,
these
wonderful
men
and
women
risk
their
lives.
BD
For
us,
it's
got
to
be
scary,
being
an
officer
starting
pay
is
only
71,000,
they
have
to
approach
people
who
are
breaking
the
law,
who
look
unstable
and
don't
know
if
they
have
weapons.
As
mentioned
earlier,
our
valuable
public
protectors
are
traumatized
by
this
demanding
work.
They
have
physical
and
mental
health
issues
and
are
exhausted
because
they're
understaffed
and
they
do
do-
deserve
our
full
support.
They
have
to
deal
with
the
public
bus
station
and
Library
shutting
down
because
of
meth
and
Fentanyl
I
support
our
police
and
I
really
hope
you
guys
do
too.
BE
Tweedley
good
evening,
can
you
hear
me
I'm
Charlene,
Hoffman
I'm,
the
CEO
of
visit,
Boulder
I'm,
also
on
the
board
of
the
boulder
Restaurant
Association
I've
been
a
resident
for
25
years,
and
we
have
three
children,
two
of
which
attend
schools
in
Boulder.
It
was
a
a
year
ago
in
August
this
past
August,
that
I
had
removed
the
Boulder
Creek
path
from
Boulder
Colorado
USA
website
and
from
all
of
our
marketing
materials
because
of
safety
concerns.
BE
So
a
big
thank
you
to
our
police,
chief
and
her
team
for
bringing
this
plan
forward.
It's
comprehensive.
It
has
a
vision
for
Change
and
different
approaches,
and
that
is
what
we
need.
The
only
thing
that
I
would
like
to
advocate
for
is
re-engagement
with
our
black
community
and
the
NAACP,
because
their
voices
are
also
needed
to
ensure
the
goals
identified
in
this
plan
are
met,
Equity,
Trust
and
transparency
bottom
line.
We
need
our
police
I
support,
our
police
and
I
hope
you
do
too.
Thank
you.
X
Mayor
council,
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
have
been
back
to
these
Chambers
since
I
left
seven
years
ago,
I
felt
compelled
I
completely
support
this.
X
It's
it's!
It's
too
we're
not
doing
enough.
If
you
only
knew
how
bad
it
is
on
Pearl
Street
you
you,
you
would
you
would
be
depressed.
You
have
the
ability
to
change
that.
How
can
we
have
three
officers
and
we're
getting
people
assaulted
daily
employees
I
mean
it
think
about
that,
may
maybe
50%
of
what
actually
happens
gets
reported,
and
yet
this
is
what
we
have
to
live
with.
I
must
tell
you
when
I
was
on
Council
I
heard
the
same
thing
about
the
police
department
being
underst
staffed.
X
That
was
13
years
or
longer
ago.
We
need
to
do
something.
We
have
the
most
expensive
housing
in
the
Front
Range.
Why
don't
we
pay
our
police
higher
than
anyone?
Perhaps
that
might
stimulate
a
few
more
I
must
tell
you
I,
see
us
going
downhill
quickly
and
you
all
need
to
understand
how
desperate
we
are
downtown.
My
employees,
my
I,
had
one
that
was
assaulted.
My
female
employees
are
not
comfortable,
walking
out
the
door
at
night
without
them
being
more
than
one
one.
This
is
your
community,
this
is
our
community
and
it's
not
safe.
X
BF
Also
Al
Echo
many
people
are
spoking
here
that
safe
safety
is
the
number
one
priority.
The
safety
of
our
communities
and
the
safety
is
safety
of
our
families.
One
thing
I
would
like
to
add
is
I'd
like
to
challenge
city
council
to
set
the
tone
in
our
community.
What
do
I
mean
to
set
the
tone?
It's
a
sports
term,
for
example,
I
used
to
play
soccer
out
here
at
Pleasant,
View
Fields,
it's
so
much
fun,
I'm
too
old.
BF
Now,
but
I
used
to
play
a
sweeper
which
is
a
defensive
role,
I
shared
with
a
team
captain
vtus
and
one
time
he
said
to
me.
Paul,
do
you
want
to
take
the
first
stt
here
and
I
said
no
vus,
say
you're
the
team
captain
and
it's
your
job
to
set
the
team
for
the
set
the
tone
for
the
team
so
I'd
like
to
challenge
city
council.
You
are
our
team
leaders,
please
set
the
do
it.
Thank
you.
BG
Slage
good
evening,
I'm
Peter
mayor
I'm,
the
co-chair
of
plan
Boulder
County
plan
Boulder
County
offers
strong
support
for
the
reimagining
policing
plan.
It's
based
on
hundreds
of
hours
of
community
engagement,
real
data
and
new
thinking.
This
Visionary
plan
offers
our
city
a
thoughtful
path
forward
to
improve
Public
Safety
and
strengthen
the
relationship
between
us
and
the
police
officers
who
Serve
and
Protect
US.
The
reimagining
policing
plan
proposes
an
Innovative
proven
core
strategy
called
problemsolving
policing,
which
is
focused
on
reducing
crimes
from
occurring
rather
than
responding
retroactively.
BG
BH
T,
my
name
is
Hope
Michaelson
I'm,
a
boulder
resident
and
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
support
the
reimagine
and
policing
plan.
This
plan
is
a
community
collaboration
initiated
by
police
chief
meis
heral
and
an
inov.
An
innovated
approach
to
solving
some
of
our
Town's
persist
consistent
in
escalating
problems.
This
plan
represents
data-driven
policy
at
its
best
and
most
effective
I
know
there
have
been
calls
to
defund
the
B
police,
largely
in
response
to
incidents
that
have
happened
elsewhere.
BH
These
calls
have
been
made
predominantly
by
activists
not
living
in
parts
of
Boulder
with
high
and
increasing
incidents
of
both
violent
and
nonviolent
crimes.
I've
lived
on
the
hill
and
in
downtown
Boulder
I
actually
live
right
across
from
together
homes.
Right
now,
both
areas
with
serious
problems
and
I
have
observed
firsthand
the
care
and
comp
compassion
with
which
Boulder
police
officers
interact
with
our
community.
Despite
the
explosion
of
drug
trafficking
in
the
dangerous
situations
Boulder
Police
encounter
on
a
daily
basis.
BH
Now,
responses
of
our
officers
have
been
exemplary
in
the
same
way
that
both
that
police
officers
need
to
react
objectively
and
without
prejudice
when
they
are
making
decisions.
Please
keep
an
open
mind
as
you
consider
this
promising
Innovative
approach
and
I
I.
Second
Russell
Chandler's
request
to
find
a
way
to
help
Boulder
Police
have
homes
in
Boulder.
Thank
you.
AM
Waters
good
evening,
I
came
with
some
prepared
remarks
this
evening,
but
I'd
like
to
abandon
them.
I
I
really
want
to
First
Express
and
Signal
my
support
for
chief
Harold
and
for
the
Boulder
Police
Department
for
the
reimagining
policing
plan.
It's
an
outstanding
plan.
It's
enlightened,
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
Chief
heral
in
our
community.
She
signals
transparency,
accountability,
I
know
she
training,
deescalation
tactics,
she's
very
Progressive,
Chief,
we're
very
blessed
to
have
her
being
in
the
room
together
here
tonight
with
you
all
reminded
me
of
a
shared
experience.
AM
We've
all
had
not
even
seven
months
ago
when
we
were
in
this
room
in
January
when
we
were
discussing
the
police
oversight
panel-
and
there
were
members
here
who
claimed
that
there
were
uniform
police
in
the
chambers
and
that
they
were
intimidated
and
that
this
was
some
sort
of
a
violation
and
that
that
and
that
there
was
there
were
complaints
filed
this.
AM
This
was
meritless
and
an
embarrassment
when
we
have
a
staffing
shortage,
and
we
wonder
why
you
also
look
at
your
role
in
the
PO
in
the
appointment
of
Lisa
Sweeney
Moran,
which
was
improper.
Some
of
you
even
ignored
the
advice
of
your
own
hired
special
counsel.
You
chose
to
vote
anyway.
It
didn't
matter
what
he
what
he
said
and
now
on
the
PO.
You
have
a
convicted
felon
I'm
confused
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
mechanism
will
be
to
remove
her,
how
that's
going
to
work
and
who
will
take
her
place.
AM
B
You
right
folks
I'm
going
to
remind
you
again.
Please
no
audible
signals
of
supported
disagreement.
You
can
do
your
jazz
hands
if
you
want
to
so
thanks,
John
and
now
up
next
John
T
and
then
Peter
Waters.
AN
Thank
you,
mayor
Brocket
member
city
council,
I,
stand
here:
I'm
John
ter,
president
CEO
of
the
boulder
chamber
and
I
stand
Here
In
Praise
of
the
reimagining
police
plan,
not
for
Unique
reasons,
but
they're
worth
repeating
one,
because
we
have
a
problem
in
Boulder
two,
because
the
strategy
and
approach
is
innovative
and
second
or
third,
because
it's
responsive.
We
have
a
problem
in
Boulder,
we
see
the
numbers
that
indicate
the
rising
crime,
continuing
to
indicate
that
we
have
numerically
TR
difficult
challenge.
AN
Fighting
crime
in
our
community,
but
I
can
tell
you
about
individual
business,
Business
Leaders,
who
are
experiencing
the
crime
on
their
own
in
terms
of
threats
to
their
staff
in
terms
of
difficulty
at
their
B
places
of
business
in
terms
of
the
crime
that
occurs
right
in
their
in
their
very
places
of
work.
We
need
to
address
those
challenges.
It
is
a
problem
for
our
business
community
and
is
affecting
the
character
of
our
community.
This
plan
is
innovative
in
its
approach.
AN
We
notice
that,
for
it's
using
research,
which
is
very
characteristic
of
a
city
of
Boulder
and
the
kind
of
character
of
our
University
Le
Department,
we
know
that
we
have
a
opportunity
to
address
crime
in
a
way
that's
different
than
what
we
would
normally
see
in
communities
that
don't
take.
That
kind
of
research-based
datab
based
approach
and
it's
a
credit
to
the
character
of
their
police.
Chief
Chief,
Maris,
Harold
and
her
I
would
say
character
of
an
individual
who
approaches
policing
in
a
different
Manner.
AN
And
finally,
it's
responsive.
It's
responsive
to
community
that
demands
equity
in
its
policing,
and
that
demands
that
we
take
a
different
collaborative
approach
to
addressing
crime
that
doesn't
necessarily
put
police
officers
out
in
front
but
uses
all
of
the
resources
that
we
have
at
our
disposal.
And
finally,
IT
addresses
that
ultimate
problem,
which
is
the
rising
crime
rate.
B
AE
BI
First
of
all,
thank
you
to
our
council
members.
I.
Don't
know
why,
in
the
hell,
any
of
you
guys
would
put
yourself
through
this
on
a
weekly
basis,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
time
that
you
guys
put
in.
Secondly,
a
very
heartfelt
thank
you
to
our
police
force
back
here
once
again
in
terms
of
what
these
guys
put
themselves
through
and
women.
It's
just
incredible
that
they're
volunteering
to
do
this
on
a
daily
basis.
BI
My
name
is
Peter
Waters
I
own
two
businesses
down
downtown
I'm,
a
resident
downtown.
So
in
addition
to
patronizing
downtown
businesses,
I
am
operating
and
employing
people
and
I
live
here.
I
am
in
downtown
Boulder
247
I
see
it
at
all
hours.
I
walk
by
it
on
the
way
home.
I
have
a
perspective
that
I
doubt
many
people
in
this
room
have
as
a
resident
at
15th
in
Spruce.
It
is
non-stop
when
you
hear
a
loud
noise
in
Boulder
Colorado.
BI
Your
first
concern
should
not
be
whether
or
not
that
was
a
firework
or
a
firearm,
and
that's
where
we
are
today.
It's
sad,
but
it's
the
truth
and
for
me
on
March
2021
I
walked
out
of
my
house
to
find
a
gentleman
trying
to
break
into
my
neighboring
building
at
15th
in
Spruce.
He
revealed
that
he
had
a
machete
and
when
I
said
I'm
calling
the
cops
he
said
go
ahead,
they're
not
going
to
do
anything
here.
BI
I
am
standing
without
weapon
in
my
front
yard,
at
15th,
in
Spruce,
with
170
lb
dog,
that
this
gentleman
has
decided
he's
going
to
take
me
on
with
a
machete
and
a
flashlight,
much
like
the
ones
that
our
officers
carry
two
weapons
to
my
none
I
thought
this
was
an
isolated
incident
until
5
months
later,
I
walked
out
of
our
restaurant
at
1175
Walnut
and
encountered
yet
another
man
who,
when
asked
to
leave
our
premise,
revealed
that
he
had
a
knife
much
like
a
machete
talking
blades
this
big,
let's
not
become
a
tombstone
government.
B
B
BJ
Awesome
well,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
thank
city
council
for
everything
you
do
in
this
service
you're,
giving
our
our
town
I
know.
It's
not
easy
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
being
here
tonight
and
I
also
want
to
publicly
acknowledge
Chief
Harold,
because
I
don't
think
it's
been
said.
I've
lived
in
Boulder
38
years
and
I
live
in
South
Boulder
and
she
really
took
us
through
and
helped
our
community
during
our
king,
supers,
mass
shooting
and
I
can't
thank
her
enough.
BJ
She's
helped
our
community
she's
helped
our
Police
Department
and
I'm
really
proud
of
what
she's
done.
I
support
the
new
policing
program,
I
think
it's
thoughtful
informative
and
it's
a
much
and
much
needed
in
a
town
like
ours,
where
we
like
to
have
Community
input
I,
like
that.
We
have
data
that
we
can
use
because
it
squashes
misinformation,
and
it
also
allows
us
to
determine
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work.
The
data
shows
crime
is
up.
BJ
BJ
I
do
believe
when
you,
when
you
build
something
it'll
come
so,
let's
fully
fund
this
plan,
I,
don't
know
if
you're
voting
on
funding
this
tonight,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it
but
I
think
in
order
to
have
a
safe
Community,
we
need
fund
it,
and
so
I'm
asking
city
council
to
approve
her
reimagining
policing
plan
and
please
fund
it,
and
thank
you
to
the
Boulder
Police
Department
for
everything
you
do
to
keep
us
safe
and
go
see.
You
beat
Nebraska
on
Saturday.
Thank.
B
You
all
right!
Well,
we
all
agree
with
that.
One,
but
I'd
still
ask
you
to
avoid
the
audible
things
of
of
support.
Thanks
for
that
Jill
I
understand.
David
Middlebrooks
is
not
in
the
meeting,
so
we
have
Karen
susin
and
then
Connie
Brenton
and
Elaine
Dana.
Y
Up,
it's
tough
to
be
a
retailer.
Criminal
Behavior
has
increased
extensively
and
across
all
fronts,
from
individuals,
defecating
in
front
of
our
businesses,
to
Smashing
store
Windows
to
stealing
with
impunity
to
confronting
and
ACC
costing
store
owners
and
workers
to
using
drugs
in
our
public
bathrooms
on
our
streets
in
our
library,
in
our
parks
to
violence
between
those
on
the
streets.
The
problems
are
so
bad
and
the
response
is
so
anemic
that
most
actions
go.
Unreported
business
owners
are
scared
or
jaded.
So
no
one
says
anything
most
of
the
time
to
Jeff's
to
George's
point.
Y
The
stats
that
are
presented
are
undercounted
by
a
huge
percentage.
It's
getting
harder
to
hire
and
keep
workers
with
crime
and
violence
on
the
rise.
People
are
fed
up
scared
and
angry
Mall
ambassadors
are
a
good
step
forward,
but
they
are
no
replacement
for
police
presence,
I've
owned
artart
on
the
Pearl
Street
Mall
for
30
years.
It's
never
been
this
bad.
The
police,
respon
presence,
is
nearly
non-existent
until
we
call
for
help.
100
%
of
my
staff
have
experienced
verbal
and,
in
some
cases,
physical
violence
in
our
store
in
the
last
12
months.
Y
Y
He
went
berserk
screaming
obscenities
as
I,
followed
him
out
when
I,
when
he
left
I
again
asked
him
to
return
what
he
had
stolen
and
he
dropped
into
my
hand,
jewelry
that
he'
stolen
from
artart
and
other
stores
along
the
mall
into
my
my
hand,
I
called
the
police
shared
the
picture
with
downtown
Boulders,
so
other
businesses
could
be
alerted,
and
a
week
later,
the
exact
same
thing
happened
same
guide,
just
a
different
business.
The
retailers
and
our
employees
have
become
responsible
for
policing
our
stores
and
the
downtown
mall.
Y
G
Know
by
experence,
Miss,
Brenton,
I'm,
afraid
your
time
is
up.
If
you
have
further
comments,
please
email
them
to
us.
We'd
be.
G
Okay,
all
right
next
up
is
Elaine
danam.
G
Miller
is
Elaine
in
the
is
she
with
us.
BK
Good
thank
you
good
evening.
Council.
Please
support
this
reimagined
policing
plan,
not
just
the
plan,
but
the
plan
and
any
subsequent
Staffing
and
funding
requests.
We
have
one
of
the
most
Progressive
police
departments
and
Chiefs
in
the
country.
In
my
opinion,
some
of
this
Council
have
been
too
slow
to
support
them.
We
all
advocate
for
equity
and
the
equal
application
of
the
laws.
Let's
be
sure,
those
words
are
reflected
in
our
actions.
BK
This
community
routinely
makes
excuses
and
special
exceptions
for
repeat
offenders,
thieves,
those
who
travel
here
to
do
methan
fental
in
the
Parks
and
flagrantly
ignore
our
camping
ban.
The
fact
that
the
police
just
rearrested,
a
man
who
stabbed
someone
in
the
middle
of
the
park
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
who
was
immediately
released
to
Steel
bikes
and
sell
fenel,
is
a
failure
that
should
not
happen
again.
BK
So
for
the
holistic
governance
piece
of
this
plan
to
succeed,
we
need
all
other
government
partners
and
community
members
to
stop
the
policies
and
practices
that
are
enabling
the
problem.
The
charts
and
the
reimagine
plan
show
that
in
Boulder,
property
and
violent
crimes
are
up,
safety
is
down
and
the
police
are
overwhelmingly
called
to
fix
it.
Do
your
part
and
support
this
plan
and
the
requests
for
Staffing
and
funding,
so
the
police
can
heavily
Patrol
crime
hotspots
and
engage
more
non-p
police
resources,
where
appropriate.
BK
B
BL
Okay,
good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Aiden
re
and
thank
you
for
hearing
me
this
evening.
I
just
wanted
to
note
on
page
30,
it
states
under
number
two
holistic
governance.
Crime
can
be
driven
by
indirect
factors
like
lack
like
lack
of
housing,
food
security
and
transportation
access,
since
police
have
less
influence
in
these
areas.
The
whole
city
is
called
to
relieve
social
burdens
that
can
that
can
stop
crime
from
ever
happening.
BL
It
helps
identify
non-
enforcement
solutions
to
our
community's
most
pressing
safety
problems
and
emphasizes
prevention
rather
than
reactive
measures
and
I
thought
that
was
quite
striking
and
I.
I
hope
that
if,
if
indeed
the
council
goes
forward
in
approving
this
reimagining
policing
plan,
it
also
takes
steps
to
to
follow
that
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
afford
to
live
here,
including
raising
the
minimum
wage
and
making
transitional
housing
more
available
and
affordable
housing,
as
well
as
middle-,
income,
housing
and
I
hope.
BL
You
will
take
all
of
the
plans,
suggestions
and
proposals
into
consideration.
Thank
you.
D
My
name
is
Thomas
Bender
I've
been
a
Boulder
County
resident
since
92
lived
in
the
city
of
Boulder
since
2017
and
I'm
kind
of
like
what
happened
to
our
city.
It
is
it
appalling
and
I'm
so
hopeful
that
we
actually
have
a
plan.
Now
anyone
who's
lived
through
this
and
seeing
what's
going
on
in
the
streets.
It's
it's
frightening
right.
D
The
the
number
one
priority
in
the
value
statements,
I
thought
was
fantastic
thanks
to
everybody,
who's
poured
their
heart
and
soul
into
this,
especially
Maris
Garland,
and
all
the
work
that
she's
done
and
everyone
to
support
this.
We
feel
safe
in
our
community
when
we
are
all
free
to
enjoy
public
and
private
spaces
without
fear
of
harm.
That's
not
Boulder
today,
and
that
is
that
is
sad,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
and
support
to
fix
this
and
also
set
a
a
path
forward
for
the
rest
of
America.
D
We
have
a
mental
health
crisis
that
needs
to
be
solved.
We
have
a
drug
addiction
crisis
that
needs
to
be
solved
and
we
have
a
homeless
Priceless
crisis
that
needs
to
be
solved
and
I.
Think
if
we
solve
and
focus
on
the
drug
addiction
first,
it's
a
huge
problem,
then
you
can
actually
deal
with
the
mental
health
and
then
I
think
homelessness
and
unhoused
will
be
a
much
simpler
problem,
not
easy,
but
much
simpler,
so
I'm
in
full
and
100
support
of
this
approach.
D
I
hope
the
city
council
will
support
this
plan
and
we
can
carry
this
forward
support
our
police
get
the
numbers
up.
We
need
to
make
Boulder
safe
again
for
our
kids
and
for
the
community.
Thank
you
very.
B
B
BM
Great
hello,
I
operate
two
of
the
vendor
carts
downtown
I,
sell
sunglasses
and
hats
on
the
13300
block
of
Pearl,
Street
Mall,
so
I'm
on
the
front
lines
of
some
pretty
bad
behavior
from
the
unhoused
and
the
plan
being
proposed
does
indeed
sound,
interesting
and
maybe
even
enlightened,
but
I
worry
that
Boulder
may
be
following
in
the
enlightened
footsteps
of
San
Francisco
California
Portland
Oregon,
whose
communities
appear
to
be
falling
apart
apart
altogether.
So
I
have
a
a
short
anecdote.
This
past
Sunday
was
just
a
a
terrible
day
on
the
mall.
BM
There
was
a
group
of
15
homeless
people.
They
were
smoking
meth
openly
there
were
fist
fights
there
were
screaming
matches.
There
was
a
scary
panhandler
guy
demanding
money
from
passers
by
or
else
he
threatened
he
would
get
their
kids
addicted
to
crack.
Another
homeless
guy
took
a
burning
Torch
from
a
street
performer
and
tried
to
ignite
a
mouthful
of
his
vodka
in
order
to
create
a
fire
breather
effect.
You
know
it's
just
just
a
terrible
day.
BM
I,
don't
understand
why
I
really
I
want
to
say
really
quickly
that
I
support
the
police
and
I
understand
that
they
are.
They
need
our
support,
but
I
also
want
to
say
I,
don't
understand
why
that
day,
the
behavior
did
not
apparently
rise
to
the
level
of
tickets
being
issued
or
arrests
being
made
fast
forward.
Two
days,
the
Boulder
Police
made
at
least
six
arrests
in
the
downtown
area
for
drug
dealing
and
drug
use
and
possessing
Stolen
Bikes
and
for
the
following
two
days.
BM
Up
to
today,
the
1300
block
has
been
very
subdued,
and
my
point
is
just
that
arresting
people
who
commit
crimes
seems
to,
in
fact
have
a
very
positive
effect
on
our
community
and
I
hope
that
the
arresting
of
Bad
actors
does
not
end
by
way
of
this.
This
very
interesting
plan.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
Christopher,
and
thanks
so
much
to
everyone
who
came
and
spoke
to
us
tonight.
We
really
appreciate
your
input,
so
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
the
public
ing
portion,
and
so
we
can
bring
it
back
now
to
council
for
discussion.
So
who
would
like
to
get
us
started
on
discussion
of
the
plan?
I
see.
F
That
not
to
neily
start
discussion
just
to
maybe
have
a
little
clarification
from
some
stuff
that
some
speakers
brought
up.
So
I
was
wondering
if
I
could
ask
Chief
Harold
a
question.
F
A
number
of
speakers
brought
up
that
recent
arrest
of
an
individual
who
had
just
previously
been
arrested
regarding
a
stabbing
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
of
your
input
with
regards
to
are
these
City
policies
that
are
driving
this
PR
Bond
situation,
Andor
an
individual
who
commits
a
crime
like
a
stabbing
from
going
to
jail
and
then
coming
right
back
out
and
getting
rearrested,
because
I
think
it's
important
for
Community
to
understand
not
only
what's
causing
some
of
these
problems,
but
also,
perhaps
where
and
more
importantly,
where
to
focus
their
advocacy
and
passion
for
Solutions,
and
so
I'm
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
can
add
some
clarity
as
to
the
the
IR
at
at
Council
in
this
dis
versus,
maybe
where
those
challenges
really
do.
AC
Persist
well,
first
and
foremost,
I,
don't
disagree
with
anything.
This
community
has
said
we
have
real
problems
in
Boulder
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
take
all
of
us
and
all
of
our
work
to
impact
some
of
these
larger
structural
issues
that
we
have
seen
happen
over
the
last
several
years
and
listen.
All
of
these
interventions
were
really
well
intended,
but.
AC
Unfortunately,
the
state
did
not
put
their
money
before
they
passed,
really
unthoughtful
legislation,
and
then
we
have
people
giving
PR
bonds.
We
have
judges
giving
PR
Bonds
on
violent
offenders
that
should
not
be
out
until
their
trial
date,
and
so
you
know,
the
state
has
passed
some
really
harmful
legislation
without
ensuring,
like
just
the
decriminalization
of
drugs,
without
spending
money
to
have
mandated
treatment
options
for
our
local
jurisdictions.
Our
state
we're
last
in
the
state
of
Colorado
with
mental
health
services,
we're
not
too
far
behind
that
with
drug
addiction
Services.
AC
These
are
large
structural
issues
that
will
impact
us
locally,
and
so
we
all
have
to
figure
this
out
through
very
thoughtful
mechanisms.
AC
Listen
when
people
do
bad
things.
There
has
to
be
consequences
to
that
and
I'm
not
saying
I'm,
not
a
lock
them
up,
throw
them
in
jail
person.
But
before
we
pass
unthoughtful
legislation,
we
have
to
ensure
that
there's
other
mechanisms
there's
other
Safety
Systems
in
place,
or
else
these
community
members
are
harmed
and
remember
that
most
of
the
crime
is
perpetrated
against
the
most
vulnerable
and
it
is
way
under
reported.
AC
So
if
we're
compassionate
about
our
unhoused
they're,
the
ones
being
victimized,
there's
a
strong
offender
victim
overlap
in
this
city
and
that's
why
we
all
have
to
work
together
and
we
have
to
be
thoughtful
at
the
state
and
local
before
we
make
big
policy
changes
that
impact
us
all.
I
hope
that's
helpful.
M
AC
Addition
we're
still
dealing
with
pandemic
effects
with
trials.
I
think
the
da
said
he
has
80
people
still
awaiting
trials
from
pre
pandemic.
Our
jail
is
full
the
department
where
we
send
people
that
need
care
before
trials
they're,
not
staff,
they're,
half
full,
so
the
jail
is
full
and
these
issues
are
very
complex
and
it
will
take
all
of
us
to
figure
this
out.
I
hope.
That's.
F
Helpful
it
is
gief
and
so
I.
Thank
you
for
for
that
response
and
I
think
that's
helpful
for
Community
to
understand
that
there's
more
than
just
the
city,
there's
County
and
state
partners,
and
some
of
those
issues
impact
what
we're
able
to
do
and
certainly
impact
what
you
and
your
team
were
able
to
accomplish.
So
it's
that
that
Clarity
is
is
a
helpful
reminder
for
all
of
us.
So
thank
you
for
that.
H
Ch,
actually,
don't
want
to
discuss
anything
I
just
want
to
say
how
sorry
I
am
to
the
small
businesses.
We
have
said
that
we
would
stand
by
you
after
the
pandemic,
and
this
is
what
happens
you
can't
your
your
employees
aren't
safe.
The
women
don't
feel
safe
business
owners.
Somebody
called
me
today
from
a
store
on
the
13th
Street
part
of
the
mall.
She
said
that
every
single
day
she
gets
shoplifted
every
day,
all
the
business
shoplifting,
and
how
much
can
a
business
take
a
small
business?
H
H
So
I
am
very
happy
that
so
many
businesses
tonight
spoke
I
know
I
spoke
to
some
of
them
and
asked
them
to
speak
and
I
appreciate
that
they
did
and
I
just
want
to
say
to
all
the
women
who
are
employees,
I
feel
so
bad
and
I'm
going
to
do
everything
that
I
can
to
be
a
part
of
the
solution
and
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
B
AL
F
Let
me
get
my
notes
up
here,
so
there
have
been
major
challenges
in
policing
and,
and
the
chief
will
be
the
first
to
admit
that,
nationally
and
and
even
here
in
Boulder,
BPD
could
have
easily
doubled
down
on
the
status
quo
and
and
chock
these
issues
up
to
maybe
a
few
bad
apples,
but
instead
through
Chief,
herold's
leadership,
they've
recognized
the
systematic
inequities
and
limitations
of
traditional
policing
and
our
chief
chose
to
lean
in
to
transformational
change
to
truly
protect
and
serve
our
community.
F
This
is
an
aspirational
plan,
while
also
providing
concrete
actions
to
better
serve
our
community.
Congratulations
to
the
chief,
their
team
and
really
the
community
members
that
helped
shape
this
plan
that
has
received
national
attention
and
accolades
passing
this
plan
is
just
the
beginning.
Now
we
have
to
turn
these
words
into
actions
and,
more
importantly,
results.
I
fully
support
this
plan
and
it's
emblematic
of
the
community.
It
intends
to
serve
that's
empowered
by
our
shared
values
of
safety,
equity
and
compassion.
Thank
you.
G
Well
well,
first
I
want
to
thank
thank
the
merchants
and
the
private
citizens
who've
given
up
their
evening
to
be
entertained
by
us
tonight.
I
want
to
say
that
I
share
my
colleague,
Matt's
frustration
and
and
the
police
chief's
frustration
with
policies
from
other
branches
of
government
that
have
made
our
job
that
much
more
difficult.
G
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
for
better
or
wor,
the
buck
stops
here
and
we
need
to
do
something
and
that's
why
I
support
the
reimagine
policing
plan
as
a
forward-looking
and
imaginative
approach
to
bring
our
police
tactics
to
The.
Cutting
Edge
of
police
enforcement
and
I
also
want
to
express
my
support
for
the
men
and
women
of
the
police
department
who
put
their
lives
on
the
line
to
protect
this
community,
and
they
do
so
every
single
day
and
deserve
our
support
and
respect.
G
They
have
mine
and
I
support
our
police
chief
for
her
role
in
creating
this
plan
and
for
the
leadership
of
her
department
and
her
dedication
to
improving
policing
and
life
in
this
city
and
I
really
look
forward
to
that
adjustment
to
base
in
early
2024
to
provide
our
department
with
the
resources
they
require
to
carry
out
their
mission
to
protect
each
and
every
one
of
us.
I
am
looking
forward
to
that
with
great
anticipation.
Thank
you.
I
Rachel,
thank
you
Erin.
So
a
couple
thank
yous
I
want
to
thank
the
reimagining
subcommittee,
everyone
who's
still
here
and
Wendy,
and
for
for
leading
that
there
were.
That
was
a
lot
to
juggle.
So
thank
you
for
doing
a
good
job
on
that
and
Tara
for
joining
during
my
tenure.
I
want
to
thank
the
subcommittee
and
the
community
for
patience
with
the
second
draft.
I
I
know
that
we
got
some
push
back
for
that,
but
this
plan,
the
the
Inception
of
reimagining,
was
post
George,
Floyd
and
I
was
mentored
by
a
council
colleague
who's
no
longer
on
Counsel
to
do
things
in
a
way
that
stick
and
U
I
think
that
we
could
have
slowed,
or
we
could
have
sped
this
up
by
maybe
8
to
10
months,
but
we
slowed
down
a
bit
to
hire
the
national
experts
who
were
here
tonight
and
gave
us
such
good
feedback
and
to
get
feedback
on
our
first
draft
so
that
we
could
Implement
count
's
feedback
as
well
as
communities
and
then
go
out
for
a
second
round
and
make
sure
that
we
had
knocked
it
out
of
the
park.
I
So
we're
hearing
things
tonight
like
this
draft,
shows
trust
and
compassion
and
safety
and
I
may
be
forgetting
an
email
but
I,
don't
recall
any
opposition
to
this
plan,
which
is
fairly
remarkable,
so
I'm,
confident
that
this
is
going
to
stick
it's
going
to
meet
sort
of
both
sides.
If
you
will
of
the
needs
for
reimagination,
policing
and
I,
think
that's
remarkable
I,
don't
know
that
that
would
have
happened
if
we
had
moved
forward
faster
or
or
with
the
first
plan.
So
I
I
am
grateful
to
to
the
patience
of
everyone.
I
For
that
and
grateful
that
we
got
to
a
place
where
again,
we
almost
never
get
no
opposition.
This
is
truly
like
a
remarkable
moment
in
my
tenure,
so
thanks
for
participating
and
also
just
want
to
say
that
it
it
doesn't
fall
on
deaf
ears.
I
The
painful
stories
that
we
heard
tonight
I
think
that
I
had
hope
early
in
my
tenure
that
that
we
were
having
some
things
go
differently
because
of
pandemic,
and
that
when
we
sort
of
re
rewrited
societally
things
would
would
shift
and
and
sort
of
default
back
to
a
norm,
and
they
have
they
have
not.
So
I
I
do
think
that
that
we
need
to
make
some
changes,
because
the
the
current
trajectory
and
what
we're
seeing
now
is
is
not
allowing
anyone
to
feel
particularly
safe.
C
Thanks
my
my
great-grandfather
was
a
chief
of
police.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
still
have
his
badge
is
one
of
my
my
proudest
possessions.
He
was
a
chief
of
police
in
a
small
town
in
Nebraska.
Don't
worry.
C
C
And
my
my
wife's
great-grandfather
was
a
chief
of
police
in
California
as
well
and
I
know
from
my
family
that
that
policing
is
probably
the
toughest
job
in
the
world.
I,
don't
know
how
you
guys
do
what
you
do
or
why
you
do
it.
Quite
frankly,
I
you
put
your
life
on
the
line
for
us
every
day,
and
and
we
we
owe
just
tremendous
gratitude
to
you.
C
You
know
when
we
I,
like
like
Rachel
and
Taran
Jun
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
work
on
on
the
the
this
plan
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
with
Wendy.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
leadership
in
this,
and
we
didn't.
BF
C
And
a
half
years
ago
that
we
thought
things
were
a
little
rough
and
then
we
needed
to
improve
things.
What
has
happened,
unfortunately,
why
we've
been
building
this
plan
is?
Is
things
have
gotten
worse,
as
we've
heard
from
so
many
community
members
and
businesses
tonight,
and
so
we.
AK
C
Of
work
ahead
of
us
I
mean
this
is
a
great
plan,
but
this
is
just
a
road
map
right.
We
now
have
to
go
down
this
road,
and
so
our
our
tough,
our
tough
work,
is
still
ahead
of
us.
This
is
this
is
great
as
good
as
this
is.
C
We
need
need
to
implement
this
and
make
this
work
and
measure
ourselves
and
hold
ourselves
accountable,
so
that
two
or
three
years
from
now
we
don't
have
community
members,
like
you
all
coming
here
and
saying
this
is
a
really
really
rough
place
to
be
and
and
this
plan
is,
is
going
to
help
us
to
to
get
to
get
to
that
place,
and
so
I'll
I'll
conclude
as
as
my
colleague
from
West
Philly
said.
This
plan
is
awesome.
Awesome.
J
Lauren
I
deeply
appreciate
many
aspects
of
this
plan,
especially
the
portion
that
describes
holistic
government
governance
and
how
it
plays
into
crime
prevention.
I
hope
that
we
will
find
new
and
innovative
ways
to
continue
a
strong
dialogue
between
officers
in
the
community
and
between
officers
and
Council.
I
strongly
believe
that
difficult
conversations
are
the
key
to
finding
real
solutions.
The
level
and
engagement,
the
level
of
Engagement
and
innov
Innovative
strategies
used
were
really
unprecedented
in
this
community.
I,
especially
appreciated
the
attention
brought
to
youth
voices.
J
Many,
but
not
all,
of
the
concerns
I
had
and
have
heard
from
Community
have
been
addressed
and
I
truly
believe
that
the
significant
improvements
in
this
plan
are
largely
due
to
these
challenging
conversations.
Our
community
has
participated
in,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
for
your
work
in
that
process.
When.
M
J
How
we
can
trust
police
to
treat
people
equitably,
I
appreciate
the
answer.
This
plan
gives
that
focuses
on
how,
when
done
well
problem,
solving
police
can
create
experiences
that
help
build
trust
and
make
the
policing
portion
of
the
justice
system
more
Equitable,
but
I
also
see
that
if
problem
solving
policing
were
implemented,
poorly,
the
opposite
could
also
be
true.
As
Mara
said,
policing
cannot
continue
as
it
is.
A
tremendous
amount
of
work
is
needed
and
it
will
not
end
with
the
finalization
of
this
plan.
J
This
is
the
first
step
and
we
will
need
to
continue
to
to
evaluate
what's
working,
what's
not
working
and
make
adjustments.
I
know
this
has
been
a
difficult
process
and
there
are
deep
issues
our
community
is
facing
without
easy
solutions,
I
hope
everyone
will
keep
coming
to
the
table
and
challenging
each
other
so
that
we
can
come
up
with
the
best
Solutions
possible.
Thank.
I
V
Okay
and
apologies
colleagues,
I
I
have
a
bit
that
I
want
to
say
tonight
just
because
I've
got
a
lot
of
thoughts,
but
but
I
will
try
to
keep
my
comment
shorter
later.
So
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
kind
of
thinking
about
as
we're
looking
at
this
decision,
I
think
one
of
them
is
just
around
getting
our
Scopes
a
little
bit
crossed
on
this
I
think
what
was
supposed
to
be.
You
know
a
strategic
Plan
update
ended
up
because
of
the
times
and
what
was
going
on?
V
U,
in
that
situation,
just
ended
up
expanding
bit,
so
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
the
work
of
staff
to
meet
the
moment,
or
you
know
trying
to
and
I
think
for
Council.
You
know
something
that
we
can
perhaps
learn
from
is
how
can
we
make
sure
to
kind
of
give
give
each
part
it's
it's
due
and
not
try
to
sort
of
combine
things
that
maybe
we
could
do
a
better
job
of
separately.
V
I
think
this
was
one
of
the
things
that
one
of
the
there
were
so
many
additional
documents
to
look
through.
So
I
appreciate
everything
that
you
did
to
put
this
plan
together
and
looking
for
all
these
too,
but
one
of
the
people
was
talking
about
how
oftentimes,
when
this
sort
of
reimagining
process
is
done,
it's
done
in
a
different
way.
It's
not
necessarily
led
by
the
police
department,
but
maybe
by
a
community
group
with
with
some
feedback,
and
so
that
was
just.
V
It
was
an
interesting
thing
and
it
just
really
made
me
reflect
on
how
we
added
a
lot
to
the
work
and
and
to
what
this
process
should
have
been
so
I
hope.
That's
a
lesson
for
for
Council.
You
know
I'm
also
just
sitting
with
the
knowledge
of
just
how
atic
the
last
few
years
have
done
have
been
for
the
entire
Community.
For
you
all,
especially
there
was
the
King
Super
shooting
I
work
with
the
brother
of
the
murder
victim
that
you
all
were
dealing
with
last
week
and
I'm.
Sorry
I'm!
V
So
sorry
that
you
had
to
do
that.
So
you
know
I'm
holding
that
I
know
it's
hard,
I'm
thinking
about
just
the
trauma
of
the
community.
What
they've
had
to
deal
with
some
of
the
high
profile
incidents
of
brutality
that
we've
been
looking
at
in
the
last
couple
of
years
and
bias,
as
well
as
the
experience
of
the
people,
many
who
are
here
tonight
who
are
victims
of
crime?
None
of
this
is
acceptable.
I
think
we
all
agree
on
the
problem
that
not
everyone
feels
safe
in
our
community.
V
Some
of
us
differ
on
how
we
can
achieve
safety,
but
it's
wrong
for
anyone,
regardless
of
their
perspective,
on
policing,
to
claim
that
any
of
us
in
this
community
do
not
want
safety.
It
is
a
common
goal.
It's
what
we
all
aspire
to
as
humans.
I
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
challenge
of
speaking
up
when
you
have
feedback
to
give,
as
well
as
to
the
challenge
of
hearing
feedback
in
this
really
charged
environment.
That's
not
easy,
either
and
I
appreciate
your
willingness
to
stay
at
the
table.
V
Chief
and
I
want
to
also
Echo
what
some
folks
have
said
about
the
role
of
elected
officials
in
creating
an
environment
that
reduces
crime.
It's
partly
our
fault
that
we
don't
have
places
for
people
with
mental
illness
and
addiction
to
go.
It's
partly
our
fault
that
we
have
adult
assault
weapons.
It's
partly
our
fault
that
some
people
commit
crimes
because
they
can't
afford
food.
So
we
need
to
step
up
too,
because
the
situations
that
some
of
us,
some
of
our
policies
are
creating
for
police
to
deal
with
are
really
not
acceptable.
V
When
I
was
talking
to
my
mom
last
night,
I
was
mentioning
that
I
was
planning
to
give
a
little
bit
of
feedback
on
what
I
would
have
liked
to
see
in
this
plan
and
she
said:
be
careful
Nikki,
it's
dangerous
to
let
police
know
that
you
don't
agree
with
them
on
everything
and
and
I
hear
that
right.
I
hear
that
and
I
hear
that
that's
some.
That
is
the
approach
that
some
of
us
in
the
community.
V
And
I
would
really
appreciate
the
chance
to
talk,
because
the
people
I
really
want
to
talk
to
is
our
police
department
and
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
and
what
this
plan
is
doing
to
try
to
move
to
a
different
place
so
that
we
don't
have
that
experience.
I
really
see
that
I
see
that
that's
that's!
Where
we're
trying
to
go
I'm
really
glad
there
are
people
in
the
community
who
feel
safer
with
police
and
I'm
glad
there
are
so
many
more
who
don't
have
any
impression
of
the
police,
as
you
were
noting.
V
That
is
a
really
good
place
to
start
and
I.
Think
it's
a
strength
and
a
place
to
start
from
we're.
Also
missing
folks
tonight,
who
didn't
feel
safe
coming
here
and
speaking
up
or
felt
that
it
wouldn't
matter
and
I
understand
that
many
of
the
folks
who
are
here
tonight
often
feel
the
same.
So
just
want
to
note
that
and
I
just
also
want
to
knowe
I.
Don't
really
feel
completely
safe
being
honest
tonight,
because
any
feedback
that
I
give
is
going
to
be
attacked
by
some
in
the
community.
V
As
me,
not
caring
about
public
safety
and
not
supporting
police
officers
or
the
many
ways
you
show
up
and
put
your
lives
at
risk
and
not
recognizing
the
trauma
that
you
experience
on
behalf
of
this
community,
especially
those
of
you
with
marginalized
identity
ities,
but,
like
you,
I'm,
going
to
try
to
do
the
hard
thing
and
offer
some
feedback
as
we
get.
This
plan
started
and
I
hope
it
matters.
I
really
do
because,
just
like
you
I
want
this
Vision
to
be
successful.
I
really
do
so
I'll
stay
at
the
table
with
you
tonight.
V
These
past
and
present
conditions
are
the
reasons
that
we
arrived
at
this
moment
of
reimagining,
policing
and
thinking
about
what
it
could
be
when
we
were
only
supposed
to
be
doing
a
strategic
planning
process
and
as
some
of
the
engagement
comments
mentioned,
if
we're
saying
we're
reimagining
the
future,
it
really
does
help
to
be
open
about
where
we
are
and
where
we
came
from,
and
I
saw
much
of
that
in
the
presentation
tonight.
V
So
I
hope
we
can
get
some
updates
on
how
the
training
is
proceeding
as
we
move
forward
and
make
sure
that
we're
talking
openly
about
this
history,
maybe
at
the
quarterly
updates
that
we
receive
as
an
example
of
why
this
matters.
Just
yesterday
we
put
a
video
on
social
media
that
talked
about
this
plan
and
how
transformational
it
will
be,
and
I
agree.
It
will
be
transformational.
It
was
a
good
of
the
vision
and
where
we're
headed
and
the
background
for
this
video
was
a
blue
lives
matter.
V
Flag
and
I
know
that
for
many
in
the
police
Community,
this
symbol
is
a
way
of
finding
strength
and
support
in
the
situations
where
you're
putting
your
life
at
risk,
to
help
others
and
for
people
who
are
members
of
groups
that
have
been
experiencing
police
brutality,
it's
a
symbol
that
makes
them
feel
unheard
and
even
threatened.
Both
things
are
true.
Our
plan
has
a
stated
goal
of
building
trust,
including
equity,
and
supporting
Community
value
values.
Having
a
shared
understanding
of
issues
like
this
can
help
prevent
these
issues.
V
I
also
want
to
note
a
gap
between
how
the
plan
represents
the
relationships
between
the
police
and
certain
communities
visually
in
the
photos
and
what
those
community
members
said.
The
relationships
felt
like
during
the
engagement.
There
was
also
a
bit
of
a
gap
for
me
in
the
data
presented
in
the
plan
and
the
breadth
of
the
data
in
the
accompanying
original
sources.
V
I
really
appreciate
the
focus
on
making
a
plan
shorter,
more
approachable
and
I
hope
that
over
the
years
we
don't
lose
track
of
the
breadth
of
the
data
that
we
received
from
this
process,
because
it
really
was.
V
I
see
the
possibilities
and
I
also
see
some
places
where
I
would
have
liked
to
see
us
do
things
a
little
bit
differently
in
this
plan.
I
really
do
support
the
vision
and
I
want
to
make
sure.
That's
clear.
I
appreciate
where
you
all
are
headed.
V
I
would
like
to
have
seen
an
accounting
of
the
harm
that
the
traditional
methods
of
policing
have
caused
to
specific
groups
in
our
community,
also
some
tangible
and
measurable
and
material
actions
for
some
of
the
stated
goals,
especially
those
that
relate
to
improving
Rapport
and
relationships
and
communication
with
communities
that
have
experienced
harm
and
some
specifics
on
how
we're
going
to
track
our
progress
over
time
for
some
of
the
indicators
of
success
that
seem
critical
to
success
like
the
sustained
and
meaningful
engagement
I.
V
Think
if
we
can
address
these
gaps,
this
plan
stands
a
better
chance
of
achieving
the
successful
outcomes
that
everybody
in
our
community
is
hoping
for,
so
whether
we're
people
who
feel
safe
with
police
or
people
who
don't
feel
safe
with
police.
We
all
want
this
plan
to
succeed
and
I
hope
that
some
of
these
missing
details
can
be
incorporated
into
the
quarterly
updates
that
we
get
in
the
coming
years,
so
that
future
councils
and
Community
can
follow
along
and
see
how
our
actions
and
indicators
are
doing.
W
Next,
thank
you,
mayor,
Brocket
I
have
several
comments.
I
want
to
make
and
I'll
start
with
the
one
that
is
not
as
positive
as
the
one
I
will
end
with.
It
is
hard
for
me
to
hear
earlier
that
legislation
passed
a
criminal.
You
know
the
criminal
justice
bills
that
we
passed
has
not
been
helpful
to
Chief
mayis
and
my
understanding
has
been
that
bills
at
the
state
legislature
a
lot
of
times.
W
It
is
very
hard
to
pass
bills
without
the
support
of
police
associations
and
also
the
attorney
councel,
which
is
sedak
at
the
state
level.
There's
usually
a
lot
of
stakeholding
and
some
when
bills
are
passed
a
lot
of
time.
It's
based
on.
You
know
a
lot
of
stakeholding
and
coming
together
of
varying
groups
throughout
the
community
and
coming
to
somehow
a
middle
ground
as
part
of
it,
as
opposed
to
you
know
just
bills,
Rim
through
I
just
know
since
I've
been
at
the
legislature.
W
You
know
a
lot
of
my
colleagues
are
pretty
thoughtful
about
that
stakeholding
process
to
ensure
that
Community
comes
along.
So
it
was
very
hard
for
me
to
hear
that
some
of
our
criminal
justice
bill
has
not
has
not
made
it
helpful
or
effective
for
a
chief
Mar
to
do
her
work
at
the
CD
level,
so
hopefully
in
the
future.
As
you
know,
as
a
member
of
the
state
legislature,
Chief
Maris
will
will
join
us
at
the
table
and
be
part
of
those
conversations
as
well.
W
I
want
to
move
on
to
the
part
that
I
wanted
to
really
the
feedback.
I
wanted
to
give
I
just
wanted
to
say
earlier
today,
I
was
very
impressed
by
the
comments
made
by
Chief
Harris
I
have
to
say,
as
I
was
listening
to
your
comments,
they
were
very,
very
heartfelt
for
me,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
I
wanted
to
reflect
as
well
as
you
were
talking.
That
governing
is
not
easy.
W
To
put
it
simply,
it
is
hard
and
we
don't
always
get
it
right,
as
we
heard,
but
identifying
our
values
in
using
it.
As
a
road
map
to
action
is
critical
and
I
heard
that
tonight
that
you're
striving
to
be
effective,
ethical,
Equitable
and
efficient
all
under
the
umbrella
of
defending
the
S
sanctity
of
human
life,
while
at
the
same
time,
I'm
questioning
whether
the
work
or
our.
W
Actions
desperately
impact
or
most
vulnerable
community
members,
and
for
that
Chief
Maris
I,
am
very
grateful
and
thankful
and
I
hope
these
values
are
never
forgotten
and
thank
you
as
well
for
acknowledging
earlier
the
history
of
policing
by
the
way,
I
can't
see
very
well
what
is
going
on.
It
seems,
like
my
camera,
is
a
little
bit
out
of
focus
but
I
support
this
plan
moving
forward
and
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
all
the
community
members
have
done.
W
Thank
you
Marina
for
being
a
member
of
the
subcomittee
and
for
all
the
work
that
she
has
done
as
well.
It's
just
been
very,
very
impressive
to
see
the
work
tonight
and
thank
you.
B
Right
thanks,
J
I
will
finish
this
up.
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
thank
you
to
everybody.
Who's
been
involved
in
this
lengthy
and
thorough
process.
The
public
engagement
on
this
has
been
extraordinary,
so
Sarah
thanks
to
your
department
for
doing
so
much
and
Wendy
just
enormous
enormous.
Thank
you
for
for
p
pulling
this
together
and
seeing
it
through
this
entire
process,
and
the
number
of
people
that
have
been
touched
and
talked
to
and
engaged
is
just
extraordinary.
B
I
found
it
particularly
moving
to
hear
the
test
testimony
from
some
of
our
Spanish
speaking
residents
and
a
big
thanks
to
Marina
lra
for
being
on
that
subcommittee
and
helping
to
engage
those
folks
as
well
as
I,
know.
Manuela
sentes
has
been
here
tonight,
helping
with
the
translation
services,
so
I
really
really
appreciate.
All
of
that
Outreach
I
know
this.
The
the
work
here
is
not
easy.
B
You
all
are
going
out
the
police
department
here
speaking
to
going
out
into
the
community
every
day,
dealing
with
a
lot
of
very
difficult
situations,
often
people
on
the
worst
days
of
their
lives
right
as
a
crime
victim
or
so
it's
incredibly
difficult.
But
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do.
B
The
thanks
for
the
arrests
yesterday,
I
know
things
have
been
getting
very
dangerous,
downtown
and
so
appreciate
the
work
that
you
did
to
arrest
some
of
those
drug
dealers
and
other
offends,
and
also
there
was
a
Nicole
mentioned
this
there's
a
horrible
murder,
a
block
away
from
my
home
just
recently,
and
the
response
to
that
was
really
extraordinary
and
you
all
are
doing
that
work
every
day.
So
for
that
I
really
thank
you
and
appreciate
you.
B
It
is
really
remarkable
and
we're
hearing
from
some
community
members
who
are
definitely
impacted
by
crime
and
and
I,
hear
you
and
I
hear
the
challenges
that
the
downtown
businesses
and
other
others
are
experiencing
and
I
know.
The
department
is
working
really
hard
each
and
every
day
to
make
that
better,
and
so
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
this
plan,
because
I
think
it
is
absolutely
moving
Us
in
the
right
direction.
With
a
problem.
B
Solving
policing
approach,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
say
a
few
opening
remarks
at
the
problem
oriented
policing
conference
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
it
was
really
impressive
to
see
people
from
all
over
the
country
coming
together
to
talk
about
how
policing
could
be
done
better
differently.
More
data
driven
more
problem
focused
way.
So
there
was,
it
was
an
honor
to
have
that
in
on
our
town.
People
working
on
those
issues
and
I
see
that
integrated
into
this
plan.
B
It
was
really
wonderful
to
hear
from
our
national
expert
here
Robin
thanks
for
being
here
with
us
tonight,
and
that
was
quite
the
ringing
endorsement
of
this.
Certainly,
when
I
read
it
through,
I
found
it
to
be
Innovative,
Progressive
and
even
Visionary
in
moving
us
towards
a
21st
century
vision
of
policing
that
is
different
from
the
past
and
moving
us
in
a
positive
direction.
B
So
Chief
haral
thanks
so
much
for
all
that
you've
done
for
the
department
and
putting
this
together,
deputy
chief,
Redfern
and
other
department
members
I
think
we've
got
a
road
map
for
some
really
positive
things
to
come
and
I.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
and
look
forward
to
continuing
it
together.
Thank
you
and
with
that,
unless
anybody
wants
to
double
dip,
perhaps
someone
might
be
interested
in
making
a.
G
Motion
I
would
like
to
move
the
approval
and
Adoption
of
the
reimagined
policing
plan.
There's
a
second
half
to.
H
B
Got
a
motion
in
a
second:
is
this
a
show
of
hands,
Elicia
I
would
prefer
aoll.
Let's
do
a
roll
call.
I'd
prefer
that
too.
C
B
B
All
right,
I'll,
let
you
all
get
away
with
this,
just
that
one
thanks
to
everybody
who
came
and
joined
us
tonight
and
for
your
input
and
congratulations
again.
BK
AF
B
B
B
Room
all
right
so
with
that
Elicia
can
we
get
started
on
the
next
item.
Please.
E
T
Update,
thank
you
so
much
and
to
kick
us
off.
We
have
Kurt
Fern
Harbor
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
inclusionary
housing.
BN
K
AE
BN
But
so
we're
we're
going
to
talk
about
really
one
of
the
foundational
policies
and
ordinances
of
our
city.
Over
the
last
more
than
20
years,
inclusionary
housing,
the
city
of
Boulder,
was
one
of
the
first
10
cities
in
the
country
to
adopt
inclusionary
housing.
Now,
there's
well
over
a
thousand
cities
with
inclusionary
housing.
We're
here
tonight,
as
partly
a
city
council
priority
that
you
put
forward
to
us.
BN
So
we're
going
to
be
focusing
on
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
heard
from
you
and
and
hopefully
that
will
turn
into
an
ordinance
very
soon.
Within
this
Council
and
cashen
L
is
one
of
the
things
we'll
talk
about.
BN
Casl
can
sometimes
be
controversial
in
our
community,
but
it's
actually
the
work
course
of
our
affordable
housing
program
and
every
few
years
we
do
an
update
and
the
last
one
was
about
five
years
ago,
I
believe
and
so
we're
we're
doing
it
again.
Now
we're
going
to
be
led
tonight
by
Michelle,
Allen
and
Salone,
Walbert
and
I
think
salon's
gonna
start
us
off.
Thank.
BO
You
thank
you
Kur,
so
just
to
give
some
background,
so
staff
requested
Direction
on
this
IH
update
at
a
study
session
before
Council
on
October
27th,
and
at
that
meeting,
Council
directed
staff
to
explore
strengthening
incentives
for
on-site
for
sale,
middle
income,
housing,
applying
cash
andl
differently
to
particularly
larger
homes,
and
possibly
applying
cash
andly
requirements
to
demolitions
of
homes
that
are
replaced
with
larger,
more
expensive,
expensive
homes,
Andor
large
additions.
BO
So
for
the
project
schedule
the
projects
currently
in
the
evaluation
and
feedback
stage,
Kaiser
marsten
Associates
was
a
hired
in
February
to
support
the
program
update
and
they
conducted
a
financial
feasibility
study
and
best
practice
is
analysis
to
identify
Housing,
Development
Trends
and
inform
potential
alternatives
to
the
IH
program.
BO
So
K's
findings
were
attached
to
the
memo
and
David
Dosa
from
kma
will
be
presenting
following
staff
and
also
available
for
questions.
Also
planning
board
considered
the
proposed
updates
to
the
program
on
Tuesday
night.
The
board
was
supportive
of
the
proposed
changes
in
code
cleanup
items.
They
recommended
that
staff
consider
how
inclusionary
housing
updates
would
work
with
the
recent
zoning
changes
or
the
ones
that
are
being
considered
on.
BO
First
reading
tonight,
and
also
Al
being
mindful
about
Gathering
data
going
forward
and
evaluating
if
the
changes
are
doing
what
was
intended
and
in
ordinance
with
the
updated
code,
language
is
scheduled
for
consideration.
This
fall,
Mid,
October
and
then
early
November
would
be
second
reading.
In
terms
of
community
engagement,
the
project
has
been
following
the
City's
community
engagement
framework,
which
is
shown
because
of
the
technical
nature
of
the
program
in
this
update.
BO
Our
team
has
worked
closely
with
engagement
staff
to
sort
of
identify,
appropriate
and
meaningful
public
engagement,
and
so
the
purpose
tonight
is
to
present
update
options
and
receive
feedback
to
shape
these
code.
Changes
that
we'll
be
drafting
in
the
next
month.
There's
no
formal
action
or
motion
necessary,
but
this
is
really
your
opportunity
to
shape
the
code.
Development
phase
give
input,
ask
questions,
particularly
from
the
consultant
and
and
the
current.
BO
As
Kurt
mentioned,
the
current
program
produces
few
affordable
units
directly
through
the
on-site
or
offsite
options,
but
a
significant
amount
of
units
are
produced
through
the
cash
andl
contributions
and
based
on
the
findings
from
K.
This
isn't
going
to
change
anytime
soon
and
K
is
going
to
give
a
short
presentation,
but
just
to
quickly
summarize
there'll
be
continued
difficulty
in
achieving
on-site
for
sale
outcomes
unless
we
make
some
changes
to
the
program
and
that
proposed
square
footage
methodology
would
remove
those
disincentives.
AG
Michelle
there
we
go
that's
better
good
evening:
Michelle
Allen
housing
services,
so
I'm
going
to
run
over
the
three
major
update
items
that
we
want
you
to
u
to
get
feedback
on,
and
then
there
is
a
table
in
the
memo
that
has
more
of
the
more
minor
updates,
and
you
know
less
impactful
updates.
AG
So
first
we'll
talk
about
the
cash
and
lo
modifications,
then
approaches
for
how
we
can
achieve
some
on-site
for
sale,
middle
income,
affordable
units
and
then
talk
about
whether
you
want
to
explore
a
Nexus
study
to
possibly
support
a
residential
linkage
fee
for
these
demo
and
replacement.
AG
Scenarios
so
the
first
item
that
we're
proposing
to
update
in
the
code
is
the
way
we
do
cash
and
lo
we
are
based
on
K's
recommendation,
would
like
to
adopt
a
square
footage
based
cash
andl.
What
we
have
right
now
is
sort
of
a
hybrid
of
square
footage
and
units,
and
it's
kind
of
of
unnecessarily
complicated.
Actually
we
would
go
to
a
more
pure
per
square
foot
structure.
AG
We
would
adopt
a
feasible
Cash,
Cash
andl
range
that
would
result
in
roughly
equivalent
cash
andl
revenues
and
conduct
a
feasibility
analysis,
at
least
every
5
years.
So
the
rationale
for
this
change
is
that
this
cash
and
loop
I
Square
foot,
the
pure
sort
of
approach
is
a
best
practice
and
it's
a
widely
used
approach.
It.
It
results
in
cash
and
L
that
scales
with
unit
size
and
a
fair
burden
across
different
sized
units,
which
ours
has
some
sort
of
unintended
incentives
for
some
un
undesired
outcomes.
AG
The
way
we
have
it
now,
which
is
an
incentive
for
larger
market
rate
units
that
that's
sort
of
built
into
the
the
methodology
right
now
and
it's
it's
a
lot
more
simplified
and
straightforward
to
administer
and
for
developers
to
understand
and
very
important
to
note
that,
as
part
of
this
update
to
the
cash
andl,
we
would
remove
the
existing
1200q
foot
cap
and
the
way
that
works
right
now
is
that
any
units
larger
than
12200
ft
are
all
assessed
at
the
same
amount.
AG
That
was
adopted
when
the
program
was
adopted
back
in
2000,
and
it's
out
lived
its
usefulness
at
this
point.
So
the
second
update
we
want
to
propose
is
reducing
the
for
sale.
On-Site
requirement
from
the
current
25%
to
15%,
allowing
middle
income
pricing
for
all
affordable
units
that
would
that
could
be
put
on
site
and
reduce.
This
would
reduce
the
on-site
cost
to
be
competitive
with
the
cash
andl.
AG
The
rationale
is
that
the
current
25%
requirement
is
financially
infeasible
and
K
can
talk
to
you
more
about
that
developers
have
been
and
will
choose
cash
and
L.
If
we
leave
it
the
way
it
is,
it
simplifies
the
program
by
removing
we
built
in
in
2018,
when
we
did
the
last
major
update
to
the
program
we
built
in
a
bunch
of
carrots
and
sticks
and
found
that
none
of
them
were
very
effective,
they
didn't
actually
move
the
needle
at
all.
AG
So
we
want
to
kind
of
take
those
out
which
will
simplify
the
program,
and
we
think
that
if
developers
have
U
real
options,
an
on-site
option
and
a
cash
and
lo
option,
both
of
which
are
financially
feasible,
that
they
will,
in
some
cases,
choose
to
put
those
units
on.
AG
Site
so
I
want
to
emphasize
that
changing
the
percent
requirement
does
not
change
the
amount
of
cash
and
Li
that
would
be
assessed
on
a
project
cash
andl.
The
square
footage
me
methodology
is
looking
at
the
entire
residential
square
foot
in
a
project
and
assessing
it
for
the
the
cash
and
low
amount
it
it's
not
assessed
by
affordable
unit.
It's
just
the
entire
residential
square
footage,
so
the
percentage
on
site
requirement
will
not
change
the
amount
of
cash
and
L.
AG
The
last
thing
is
to
explore
a
Nexus
study
to
inform
the
viability
of
a
linkage
fee.
We
would
need
to
conduct
that
separately
from
this
IH
update
and
we
talked
to
planning
board
on
Tuesday
and
they
actually
really
like
this
idea
and
wanted
to
recommend
that
we
move
forward,
recommend
to
you
that
we
move
move
forward
on
this
in
2024.
AG
So
the
rationale
for
the
Nexus
study
is
that
demo,
rebuilds
and
significant
additions
replace
smaller,
more
affordable
homes
with
larger,
less
affordable
homes,
and
the
re
we
can't
do
it
through
IH
is
that
IH
only
applies
to
new
residential
development.
Demo
rebuilds
is
is
replacing
one
house
for
another.
So
it's
not
a
net
increase
and,
of
course,
additions
are
not
new
residential
development.
So
we
would
approach
this
issue
by
doing
an
exit
study
and
possibly
instituting
a
a
for
affordable
housing
linkage
fee
in
these
development
scenarios.
AG
So
in
encourage
you
to
look
at
the
proposal
as
a
package
because
I
know,
on
the
face
of
it,
it
seems
counterintuitive
to
reduce
the
percentage
requirement
to
get
more
units
on
site.
But
the
fact
is
that
25%
of
nothing
is
nothing
so
and
that's
sort
of
what
we're
getting
now
15%.
We
would
hope
that
we
would
have
some
middle
income
units
coming
through
the
program
and,
of
course,
there
will
be
additional
codeup
updates.
There
is
a
table
in
your
memo
and
also
some
like
minor
tweaks.
AG
We
have
to
make
sure
all
the
details
for
any
approved
program
updates
work
in
the
code
bring
IH
in
line
with
some
program,
implementation,
implementation
that
we
do
and
address
some
undesired.
AG
Outcomes
so
the
next
steps
is
are
that
we
will
be
attending
the
whats
up
Boulder
event
on
Sunday.
We're
excited
about
that.
AG
In
late
September
we
will
go
back
to
Hab
the
housing
Advisory
Board,
which
we
did
talk
to
about
this
update
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
then
we
will
go
to
planning
board
which
will
make
a
recommendation
to
you
on
the
ordinance
language.
Then
in
October,
late
October
and
early
November,
we
are
hoping
to
come
back
to
you
with
the
public
hearings
for
adoption
of
the
ordinance.
So
David
DOA
from
K
is
going
to
do
a
short
presentation.
BP
Thank
you
mayor
and
Council
David
dozo,
with
Kaiser
Maron
Associates
have
just
a
few
slides
to
share
with
you.
As
as
was
mentioned,
we
prepared
a
real
estate,
Financial
feasibility
analysis
to
help
support
the
update
to
the
program,
and
we
also
looked
at
best
practice
around
the
country
focusing
on
Provisions
related
to
cash,
andl
and
middle
inome,
affordable
units.
BP
If
you
can
see
the
slide
that's
up
now,
it
illustrates
one
of
the
example
Prof
foras
that
we
prepared
looking
at
the
costs
and
revenues
associated
with
a
new
development
under
your
existing
requirements,
and
this
example
that
we're
looking
at
illustrates
a
performa
for
a
small
three
story.
Condo
project
looking
at
the
left
hand
side
of
the
slide.
First.
BP
That
illustrates
a
scenario
where
that
project
pays
cash
and
Li,
and
this
this
example,
the
pricing
for
a
small
condo
1400
ft²
in
size,
is
a
little
over
a
million
dollar
$750,
a
square
foot
and
the
costs
per
unit,
roughly
$1.1
million,
including
land
construction
fees
and
permits
payment
of
cash
and
L
under
the
inclusion
area
program
and
a
profit
to
the
developer,
so
that
the
project
is
close
to
penciling.
BP
In
this
example,
it's
not
not
quite
there,
but
it's
close
then
moving
over
to
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
slide.
It
shows
you
that
same
same
example,
project
where
the
project,
instead
of
using
the
cash
andl
option
that's
available
to
it,
opts
to
provide
those
25%,
affordable
units
on
site.
BP
So
looking
at
that
sales
revenue
column,
it
shows
you
the
average
sales
price
across
both
market
rate
and
affordable
units,
so
just
blending
those
together
and
just
on
an
average
with
25%,
affordable
units
on
site.
The
pricing
is
about
$200,000
per
unit
less
overall,
and
then
the
costs
also
decrease
with
on-site
affordable
units
because
there's
no
longer
a
need
to
pay
and
L,
because
the
affordable
units
are
on
site.
BP
Another
factor
that
was
considered
in
the
analysis
is
the
flexibility
that
your
program
provides
for
projects
to
provide
affordable
units
that
are
just
a
little
bit
smaller
than
the
market
rate,
which
is
one
incentive
to
the
developer.
To
include
units
on
site
is.
Is
that
flexibility,
but
even
with
that,
we
see
that
sales
revenues
and
costs
are
are
out
of
balance,
so
the
project
the
project
does
doesn't
doesn't
pencil.
The
sales
prices
don't
support
the
cost.
In
that
25%
scenario.
BP
It's
also
clearly
shows
that
it's
less
favorable
overall
to
the
developer
compared
to
the
cash
and
lo
option.
In
this
this
illustration,
this
next
slide
presents
the
results
a
little
bit
of
a
different
way.
It
expresses
the
cost
of
cash
and
Li
under
your
current
requirements
as
a
dollar
per
square
foot
amount.
So,
even
though,
even
though
your
your
requirements
currently
aren't
on
a
per
square
foot
basis,
it
converts
the
amounts,
a
developer
would
be
required
to
pay
and
do
a
per
square
foot
basis.
BP
And
then
the
tall
tall
darker
blue
bars
are
the
cost
associated
with
that
same
project
providing
the
units
on
site.
So
it's
a
way
to
just
easily
compare
the
costs
of
the
two
options
and,
as
you
can
see,
just
using
the
town
home
Row,
Home
Project
as
an
example,
the
cash
and
Li
in
that
for
that
project
is
approximately
$46
per
square
foot
currently
and
then
providing
25%
units
on
site
equates
to
a
cost,
a
net
cost
to
the
project
of
approximately
$100
a
square
foot.
BP
So
this
kind
of
summarizes
some
of
the
takeaways
of
the
feasibility
analysis,
one
that
projects
can
support
a
cash
and
L
amount
of
in
the
approximate
range
of
$35
to
$50
per
square
foot
of
of
livable
area.
Four
sale
projects
are
able
to
support
an
on-site
requirement
of
approximately
12%
to
15%,
depending
on
how
those
affordable
units
are
priced.
BP
Rental
projects
are
estimated
to
support
between
12
and
22%
on
site
and
then
larger
sites
where
there,
the
ability
to
set
aside
a
portion
of
that
larger
site
to
do
a
standalone,
affordable
project
that
is
able
to
leverage
outside
funding
sources
is
able
to
do
the
full
25%
on
site.
BP
Recommendations
are
to
is
part
of
this
update
that
you're
considering
limit
limit
to
Reserve
feasibility
limit
the
overall
cost
of
your
requirement
to
within
approximately
the
$40
to
$50
per
foot
range
and
that
that
cost
can
be
in
the
form
of
a
cash
and
move
payment
or
in
the
form
of
on-site
units.
It's
just
sort
of
overall
guidance
for
structuring
the
requirement
within
a
range
that's
feasible
and
then
in
terms
of
how
your
cash
andl
option
is
expressed.
BP
As
has
been
mentioned
earlier,
we
we
suggested
new
moving
towards
a
per
square
foot
structure.
That's
a
lot
of
programs
are
moving
in
that
direction.
It's
considered
a
best
practice.
It's
it's
very
simple:
to
apply
it
scales
with
the
size
of
the
unit,
so
you
don't
create
on.
BP
You
know,
on
the
positive
side,
an
incentive
to
build
a
very
large
unit,
or
you
know,
in
terms
of
a
disincentive,
a
dis,
a
disincentive
to
build
smaller,
more
affordable
market
rate
units
in
terms
of
how
cash
and
L
rates
adjust
from
year,
we
suggest
that
you
link
them
to
costs
as
construction
costs
increase,
that
cash
and
L
amount
would
increase.
BP
We
we
project
that
that'll
be
more
stable
over
time,
a
little
bit
it's
going
to
increase
over
time,
but
at
a
more
stable
rate
than
the
current
approach,
which
effectively
produces
a
10%
annual
increase
every
year,
which,
if
you
just
do
the
the
compound
interest
calculation,
it's
7%
doubles
every
seven
years
and
then
you
know
like,
like
many
programs,
you
need
to
monitor
the
outcomes,
keep
track
of
of
how
things
are
going,
whether
it's
still
meeting
your
needs
and
objectives
and
and
you're
getting
the
outcomes
that
you
want
and
so
keep
keep
looking
at.
BP
It
come
back
to
it
every
3
to
five
years.
So
that's
the
end
of
the
presentation
and
and
thank.
B
Great
so
Council
questions
for
staff
or
consultant
David
thanks
for
being
here,
especially
given
the
hour.
I
hope
you
enjoyed
our
presentation
on
policing
mark.
G
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
David
when
you
move
to
the
per
square
foot
metric
is
at
15%
is
that
15
%
of
the
unit
of
of
units
or
15%
of
the
square.
BP
Feet
it,
it
can
be
done
either
way
you
can
provide
the
flexibility
to
make
it
15%
of
the
units
and
I.
Think
that's
my
understanding.
What's
been
proposed
here,
15%
of
the
units,
some
programs
have
provided
flexibility
to
make
it
15%
of
the
sare
footage
of
the
units
and
I
think
there's
a
couple
programs
recently
out
there
that
have
have
moved
in
that
direction
to
and
I
think
it's
typically
at
the
option
of
the
developer,
15%
of
the
square
footage
or
15%.
G
I
mean
it
if
you're
eliminating
the
one-bedroom
requirement
for
on-site
units,
you're
going
to
end
up
with
three
efficiencies,
representing
perhaps
eight
or
9%,
of
the
square,
footage
and
and
I'm
not
sure,
that's
the
the
result.
We.
G
BP
So
I
think
I
think
I,
don't
think
the
proposal
is
to
eliminate
the
link
between
the
size
of
the
market
rate
units
and
the
size
of
the
affordable
units.
You
would
still
have
to
have
some
parity
there,
so
you
wouldn't
you
wouldn't
get
a
situation
where
a
developer
simply
allowed
to
make
all
the
affordable
units
Studios
and
then
have
the
market
rates.
Be
three
bedrooms
that
wouldn't
you
know,
I,
don't
think
that
would
be
permitted
under
what's
being
proposed
here.
G
AG
G
Half
okay,
thank
you
also
in
terms
of
your
performance
and
and
I
wrote
this
in
my
hotline,
I
I
I
think
you're
a
little
behind
the
times
in
terms
of
the
numbers
you're
using
for
those
performs
at
$800
a
square
foot.
If
you
look
at
the
MLS
with
any
frequency,
you'll
see
that
that
$900,000
is
much
more
common
today
than
it
used
to
be
for
new
construction
and
I.
G
Don't
know
if
that
impacts
the
feasibility
of
projects,
but
I
would
think
it
would
have
some
impact
and
it
might
be
useful
to
look
at
it
if
not
at
$1,000,
at
least
at
$900,
because
again,
as
I
wrote,
21
of
29
listings
in
the
MLS
last
week
were
well
in
excess
of
$800
per
square
foot,
so
I
mean
almost
every
unit
that
was
for
sale,
especially
in
the
the
million
dollar.
An
up
category
was
just
much
higher
and
I'm,
just
not
sure
we're
using
the
right.
BP
Numbers
so
the
when
we,
when
we
prepared
the
analysis,
we
were
aware
of
pricing
in
the
range
that
you're
indicating
and
if
I
don't
expect
people
to
have
made
it
all
the
way
to
the
very
back
of
the
appendices,
but
you'll
find
there
that
that
we
show
list
prices
in
sort
of
the
Ranger
sighting,
but
we
made
a
decision
in
the
analysis
not
to
reflect
sort
of
the
top
end
of
the
pricing.
That's
out
there.
You
also
see
pricing,
that's
as
low
as
$600
a
square
foot
in
a
new
project.
BP
That's
not
that's
less
common
I!
Think
there's
there
have
have
been
pricing
at
$800,
a
square
foot.
We
in
preparing
this
work
recognize
that
it's
something
that's
going
to
guide
a
city-wide
policy,
so
we
don't
want
to
reflect
the
sort
of
the
top
end
of
the
pricing
range
all
the
time
we
also
in
in
preparing
this
performance.
We
want
to
be
we're
internally
consistent.
G
And,
and
with
respect
to
the
linkage
fee,
which
I
think
is
an
interesting
idea,
are
there
any
exceptions?
I
mean
the
the
intent
is
to
assess
a
fee
against
someone
who
demolishes
a,,
1400
SQ
F
foot
house
and
builds
a
5500t
house.
What,
if
somebody
gut
renovates
a,
1400t
house
and
leaves
it
as
is
or
maybe
adds
two
or
300
Square
F
feet?
Is
there?
Is
there
some
Metric,
by
which
you
would
have
a
little
bit
of
leeway
on
that
or.
AG
Ye
yeah
that
that
would
be
Our
intention
that
we
would
allow
people
to
replace
square
footage
that
they
have
without
any
additional
requirement.
But
if
they
build
a
larger
home-
and
so
so,
as
you
say,
replace
what
they
have,
maybe
with
a
little
bit
of
wiggle
room
there.
But
if
they
go
from
1500
square
feet
to
4,000
sare
ft,
there
would
be
an
assessment
on
that.
G
G
You
know
two
three
5
years
to
to
determine
its
results
and
second
Are
We
Now,
pitting
the
development
of
middle-income
housing
against
affordable
housing,
because
most
developments
with
the
cash
and
L
are
providing
the
source
of
funding
for
our
affordable
housing
program
and
now
we're
trying
to
incentivize
something
else
and
there's
still
only
one
piie
and
are
we
now
pitting
one
against
the
other
in
terms
of
what
it
is
we're
trying
to.
AG
Develop
so
a
couple
thoughts
about
that.
First
of
all,
the
change
is
only
proposed
for
for
sale.
AX
AG
Units
which
are
have
been
over
the
last
few
years
about
10%
of
the
units
subject
to
inclusionary
housing,
so
it's
actually
a
pretty
small
percentage.
Most
development,
as
you
know
in
Boulder,
is
rental.
At
this
Point
National
Trend,
that's
not
projected
to
change
anytime
soon.
It
could,
but
it
probably
won't
so
there's
that,
but
there's
also
just
that
the
cash
and
L
is
then
you
know,
put
put
to
use
producing,
affordable
units.
AG
If
somebody
chooses
not
to
pay
cash
in
L
and
produce
affordable
units
like
you
still
get
affordable
units
right,
so
so
you
know
getting
cash
in
L
and
then
turning
it
into
affordable
units
is
one
way
to
do
it.
Getting
the
units
on
site
is
another
way
to
do
it
and
I
don't
know.
Does
that
answer
your
question?
I'm
not
I'm,
not
quite
sure.
Do.
AG
B
Because
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
Cu
granted
this
I
get
that
this
is
for
sale.
So
if
currently,
if
somebody
had
like
a
100
unit
project,
they
would
be
if
they
wanted
to
do
it
on
site.
That'd
be
25
units
right
if
they
paid
cash
and
loot.
We
would
then
use
that
money
to
fund
units
somewhere
else
and
my
understanding
is
we'd,
get
probably
a
little
more
than
25
units,
maybe
28
units,
or
something
like
that.
Do
I
have
that
approxim.
B
You
mind:
do
you
mind
if
I
Fin
and
then
and
then
please
fill
in,
but
then,
if
we,
if
we
change
the
requirement,
if
it's
on
site
to
15%,
then
the
alternate
thing
that
we
would
get
would
be
15
units
of
on-site
middle
inome,
affordable
housing.
Is
that
correct.
AG
AG
Yeah
can
I
just
clarify
and
then
and
then
please
clarify
yeah,
so
so
the
offset
units
you
you
might
get
as
many
as
double
but
they're
going
to
be
rental
units.
Sure,
because
you
know
we
we
we
do
put
cash
andl
into
for
sale
units,
but
we
most
of
the
cash
and
L
is
used
to
produce
rental
units.
It's
leveraged
with
litec
financing,
which
can
only
be
used
for
rentals,
whereas
the
15
on
site
will
be
for
sale,
middle
income.
AG
B
V
M,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
V
About
the
U
Middle
income,
affordable,
and
is
that
in
our
so
it's
home
home
ownership
right
and
so
is
that
again
the
sort
of
it's
going
to
be
permanently
affordable?
So
there's
going
to
be
limits
on
Equity?
Is
this
like
taking
advantage
of
the
new
middle
income
down
payment
program
like
what
is
it
about
that
that's
making
it
affordable?
Does
that
make
sense
like
what's
the
it's
just
that
it's
being
sold
at
that
price?
Or
is
this
part
of
our
affordable
home
ownership
program.
M
AG
Have
a
permanent,
affordable,
Covenant
every
the
initial
sale
plus
every
resale
would
have
to
be
to
an
affordable
at
an
affordable
price
to
a
income.
Qualified
household.
V
Right,
okay
and
so
a
a
unit
where
people
are
not
going
to
be
getting
market
rate
equity
on
their
home.
AV
AG
F
Mat
I
just
want
to
piggy
back
a
little
bit
on
where
I
think
Mark
and
Aaron
were
on
these
trade-offs
and
just
for
a
reminder,
our
a
what.
What
are
you
remind
us,
what
our
affordable
housing
inventory
goals
are
and
what
our
middle
income
housing,
Target
goals.
AG
BN
Thanks
for
that
question,
so
the
the
middle
income
Strate
strategy.
Well,
we
have
a
few
goals
out
there.
First
of
all,
when
we
do
the
Regional
Housing
Partnership,
our
city
adopted
a
15%
goal,
so
15%
of
all
housing
units
in
the
city,
including
existing
units,
would
be
permanently
affordable,
we're
currently
at
8.4%.
So
we've
we've
made
very
good
progress.
BN
We
we
have
about
1,400
units
that
are
in
the
pipeline,
I
believe
about
200
of
those
are
for
sale,
homes
and
some
of
those
are
through
annexations
as
well,
and
so
we're
making
good
progress
overall
on
our
on
our
15%
targets.
However,
it
takes
a
long
time
to
get
there
and
our
goal
was
10%
for
for
many
years
when
we
moved
it
from
10
to
15
I
think
we
were
at
about
7
and
a
half
perc,
so
we've
moved
a
percent
whole
percentage
Point.
BN
Since,
since
setting
that
goal
the
the
last
few
years
towards
our
our
middle
income
targets,
it's
gone
slower
than
we
anticipated
and
that's
why
changes
were
made
to
the
IH
ordinance
back
in
2018.
That
was
the
carrots
and
sticks
and
Mark
was
asking.
Are
we
going
to
go
back
and
look
at
this?
Yes,
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now
we're
actually
looking
back
at
the
changes
that
we
made
back
in
2018
and
we're
now
observing
what's
worked
and
what
hasn't
worked.
G
Did
we
not
have
in
2016
a
separate
goal
of
1,500
middle
inome
units
by
2030?
That's
correct,
yes,
and
how.
BN
Are
we
doing
on
that?
We
we
currently
have
I,
think
about
810
or
815
units
of
for
sale
homes.
We've
we've
probably
been
adding
I,
don't
know
over
the
last
few
years
only
about
10
units
per
year
10
to
12
units
per
year,
so
it's
been
fairly
low.
Okay,
thank.
F
You
that
was
kind
of
I
was
going
to
thanks
for
asking
that
Mark.
So
with
this,
where,
where,
where
my
question
really
kind
of
goes
after
kind
of
getting
that,
Foundation
is
where's
our
greatest
deficit
and
in
which
case
to
me,
that
kind
of
then
answers
the
direction
we
go
with.
The
tradeoffs
right
is:
if
our
deficit,
if
we're
further
behind
on
the
middle
income,
then
we
throttle
that
direction
if
we're
further
behind
the.
F
So
that's
where
I
think
this
moving
Target
is
so
important
for
us
to
keep
adapting
these
levers
as
we
keep
checking
in
every
3
to
five
years.
So
in
your
assessment,
would
you
say
we
are
which
one
are
we
further
behind
on?
Is
it
that
sort
of
deed-restricted
affordable
or
is
it
that
middle
income?
Where
do
you
think
we
are
further
behind
reaching
our
goals.
BN
So,
as
far
as
reaching
the
goals
we're
further
behind
on
the
on
the
middle
income
for
sale
units,
however,
the
need
throughout
the
entire
Community
is,
is
significant.
I
agree,
and
it
really
does
also
come
down
to
sort
of
a
values
tradeoff
of
which
one
you're
going
to
prioritize
yeah.
BB
BN
Say
sorry,
one
more
thing
while
I'm
here
my
assumption
is
that
if,
if
this
is
passed
as
an
ordinance
or
an
update
to
the
ordinance,
we'll
probably
double
the
number
of
middle
inome
units,
we'll
probably
get
an
additional,
you
know
15
units
a
year,
something
in
that
you
know
ballpark.
Thank
you.
Kurt.
W
Rachel,
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions,
I
think
based
on
the
presentation,
the
conversation
that
we
are
we've
been
having
is
that
we're
trying
to
incentivize
onsite
building
behavior,
but
also
my
understanding.
It
may
reduce
the
amount
of
cash
and
lo
that
we
receive,
because
it
is
not
a
guaranteed
that
a
developer
will
build
just
because
we
said
hey,
we
are
lowering
the
threshold
to
15%.
Did
I
get
that.
AG
Correct
yeah
the
it's
not
a
guarantee
that
they
will
choose
to
put
the
units
on
site.
They
will
still
have
a
choice
and
the
way
we're
proposing
it
is
to
make
the
two
options
roughly
equivalent
so
that
they
have
a
feasible
Avenue
for
either
onsite
units
or.
AG
W
Yeah
I
mean
I
was
trying
to
do
the
math
in
my
head,
or
at
least
thinking
of
what
seems
to
be
a
middle
ground
here,
because
I
I'm
just
not
sold
on
yet
this
particular
approach,
because
to
me
I'm
thinking,
a
middle
ground
would
be
a
hybrid
approach
if
you're
building
on
site
15
per,
but
if
you're
doing
cash
and
loot,
then
you
would
still
have
to
do
25
because
I
just
again
we're
trying
to
incentivize
a
behavior
that
that
is
not
guaranteed.
W
So
ultimately,
I
do
understand
what
Kurt
is
saying
that
that
might
give
us
a
15
additional
for
sale,
but
nonetheless
we
don't
know
that
to
be
a
guaranteed.
We
might
still
be
exactly
where
we
are
today.
Thank.
B
You
thanks:
did
you
have
another
question:
Junior
was
that
it.
I
Lauren,
my
questions
are
very
basic:
I'm,
sorry
Everybody
Knows
by
now.
This
is
this:
not
my
strong
suit
planning,
stuff
planning,
housing
intersection.
So
first
question
is:
are
adus
implicated
at
all
in
this
discussion?
Thank
you.
No!
So
we
we
wouldn't
do
anything
that
would
create.
Okay,
that's
a
comment.
I
wanted
to
understand.
On
the
additional
update
and
cleanup
code,
we
I'm
looking
at
page
eight
under
required
rents.
We
would
be
looking
at
changing
80%
Ami
to
50%
Ami
households
and
wanted
to
understand
where
that
applies.
I
What
what
the
scenarios
are
for
that
for
the
rental
proposed
rental
change
required
rents,
so
I
these
These
are
kind
of
out
of
context
because
they
cleanup
code
changes
so
I,
I,
didn't
I,
didn't
have
a
great
context
for
like
where
what
we're
talking
about
for
I
think
that
the
language
change
is
going
from.
20%
of
affordable
units
would
be
for
80%
Ami
households
to
20%
would
be
for
50%,
Ami
and
I.
Just
don't
know
where
that
applies
correct.
AG
And
and
the
reason
that
yeah
I
at
least
think
of
that
as
a
cleanup,
is
that
so
the
developers
have
a
hard
time.
You
typically
they
say
we're
going
to
price
them
all.
Do
all
the
rents
at
60%.
We
can't
use
the
80%
rents
because
litex
don't
function
well
with
80%
rents,
so
they
just
say
we're
we're
just
not
going
to
do
any
at
80%.
So
it's
sort
of
a
it's,
not
a
a
functional
split.
AG
The
way
we
have
it
right
now
with
60
and
80
they're
they're
doing
them
all
at
60
and
that
that's
the
conversation
because
they
want
to
utilize
litex
and
in
fact,
sometimes
to
utilize
the
LX.
Even
though
don't
we
don't
require
lower
rents,
they're
actually
throwing
some
in
there
because
it
makes
their
litech
project
look
more
attractive
and
they
want
to
attract
those
funds.
I
So,
but
we're
already
doing
80%
for
60%,
Ami
and
we'd
be
taking
the
20%
that
was
going
to
80%
Ami
to
50%
Ami.
So
it
seems
like
we
be
sort
of
in
one
sense,
moving
away
from
the
more
upper
income,
affordable
housing
units,
if
we're
going,
if
we're
dropping
the
80
and
and
requiring
either
50
or
60%
for
100%
Kurt's
nodding
at
me,
so
I
think
I'm
reading
it
right,
but
that
I
it.
It
almost
seems
like
contrary
to
some
of
the
rest
of
this
discussion.
BN
Maybe
I'll
just
add
something
here,
so
our
approach
to
rentals
are
very
different
and
and
again
this
is
a
cleanup
that
will
apply
to
a
project.
Probably
every
few
years
we've
had
two
on-site
rental
projects
in
the
time
that
I've
been
at
at
the
city,
and
so
it
would
only
apply
to
on-site
rental
developments
and
what
we
also
want
to
get
away
from
is
when
a
project
only
does
60%
Amis.
BN
It's
only
serving
a
certain
slice
of
the
of
our
community
and
by
introducing
50s
we're
also
encouraging
them
to
rent
to
lower
Amis,
which
actually
helps
our
entire
community
as
well,
and
this
is
something
that
BHP
has
basically
baked
into
every
project
that
they
do,
and
so
we
would-
and
it's
really
worked
out
quite
well
and
so
for
for
on-site
projects,
we'd
like
to
see
that
same
approach.
BN
T
I
I
Okay,
let's
see
I
think
I
have
a
couple
more
questions
so
again
under
the
cleanups
for
proposed
changes.
I'm
now
on
page
10,
and
it's
saying
we
would
the
options
for
meeting
new
IH
program
changes.
We
would
be
revising
to
indicate
that
this
would
go
into
effect,
3
months
from
adoption
and
apply
to
developments
that
have
an
approved
technical
document
or
have
submitted
at
least
one
residential
building.
I
AG
Project
you
want
to
go,
buy
the
old
rules,
so
it's
kind
of
splitting
that
difference
and
I
I
do
need
to
flesh
that
out
a
little
bit
more
and
and
provide
a
little
more
detail.
What
you'll
see
in
the
ordinance
language,
but
the
intent
is
to
be
fair
and
to
allow
a
a
bunch
of
De
developments
that
are
in
the
pipeline.
The
choice
of
going
by.
AV
I
Yeah
well,
it
would
seem
to
me
anybody
who
had
like
almost
the
opposite
of
the
line.
That's
in
here
like
if
you
haven't
applied
for
a
you
know
or
gotten
a
permit.
Yet
then
you're
you're,
just
under
the
new
rules,
but
if
you're
already
in
the
in
the
pipeline,
I
love
the
idea
of
a
choice
like
pick
choose:
choose
your
adventure,
okay,
great
and
then
kind
of
the
same
thing
on
the
Demolition
and
replacement.
I
I
You've
got
eight
years
to
rebuild
it,
and
I
like
Matt
and
I
were
talking
to
somebody
yesterday
whose
home
was
was
lost
in
the
in
the
Marshall
fire
and
and
I
think
she's
waiting
for
some
things
to
fall
into
place
that
are
out
of
her
control.
That
government
actors
need
to
do
so.
I
wondered
what
about
just
if
you're
the
same
homeowner,
not
having
a
time
limit
like
if
the
property
changes
hands,
then
then
you
would
pay,
but
I
don't
know
I
I
that
seemed
potentially
still
harsh
to
me.
I
So
just
flagging
and
wondering
if
there
are
are
other
ways
we
could
do
it
that
I
do
understand
the
intent
like
you
know
it
it
at
some
point,
30
years
from
now.
If
you
haven't
rebuilt
that
house
like
it's,
not
it's
not
a
delay
and
I
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
got
it
eight
years.
Maybe
that's
the
question.
How'
we
land
on
eight.
AG
Years,
I
just
picked
it
as
a
reasonable
time
frame
so
open
to.
J
Then
yeah
I
wanted
to
clarify
something:
juny
had
brought
up
related
to
the
cash
and
Li
and
option.
Where
are
those
yes?
J
So
when
we
look
at
decreasing
to
the
15%
onsite
we're
not
decreasing
the
amount
of
cash
and
L
the
cash
and
Li
we
if
we
go
forward
with
the
square,
footage
or
I
guess
either
way.
However,
we
go
forward
with
cash
and
Lou.
It
would
stay
the
same,
no
matter
what
the
onsite
percentage
requirements
are.
AG
Yeah
that's
correct
and
both
Hab
and
planning
board
struggle
with
that
concept
a
little
bit
because
they're
sort
of
tied
together
right
now,
but
under
this
proposal
they
become
really
essentially
divorced
from
each
other.
The
cash
and
Le
is
just
app
apped
to
the
total
residential
square
footage
of
the
project
doesn't
matter
what
the
on-site
percentage
is.
BC
J
J
Can
you
tell
me
what
would
be
the
equivalent
number
of
affordable
units
you
could
build
with
cash
andl
or
middle
inome
units?
You
could
build
with
cash
and
L.
BN
Like
it
yeah,
we
can
probably
do.
We
can
probably
do
25
units
of
of
rental
for
that
same
amount
of
cash,
probably
25
to
30
again
they're
a
different
product
if
we
did
under
our
so
under
our
current
program,
we're
we're
getting
about
six
or
seven
units
a
year
where
we're
going
out
and
purchasing
existing
units
and
turning
them
into
for
sale,
deed,
restricted
units.
Those
are
units
that
are
20
or
30
years
old
and
we
do
some
upgrading
to
them
as
well.
BN
BN
That's
correct
but
again
you're
getting
new
units.
J
New
units
versus
old
units,
yep
I,
think
that's
it
for
me.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
Teresa
Tate's
predecessor,
often
cautioned
us
about
being
too
aggressive
on
on
certain
things.
So,
for
example,
our
we
always
had
to
have
a
cash
andl
safety
valve
because
of
rent
control
restrictions
in
the
in
the
state
of
Colorado
and
similarly
I
think
we
felt
a
a
little
uncomfortable
when
we
nudged
the
number
from
20%
to
25%,
and
he
cautioned
us
that
we
were
probably
pushing
the
envelope
there
as
well.
C
There
was
a
bill,
obviously
in
the
legislature
this
year,
that
didn't
pass.
That
would
have
allowed
cities
to
have
impose
rent
control
and
that
bill
may
come
back
and
if
it
does,
the
preemption
is
lifted.
The
city
mayor
may
not
take
on
rent
control
but
kind
of
setting.
All
that
aside
do
do,
we
feel
are,
are
we
are
we
doing
these
things
under
the
assumption
that
rent
control
is
is
still
prohibited?.
A
R
C
Colorado
and,
and
if,
if
that
goes
away,
how
would
we
change
some
of
these
numbers
or
or
or
are
these
numbers
driven
more
by
operational
considerations
than
they
are
legal
ones?
In
other
words,
we
we
may
have
some
operators
that
just
don't
want
to
operate
low-income
housing,
and
so
they
they're
happy
to
write
a
check
and
just
pass
that
on
to
their
buyers
or
their
renters
and
has
less
to
do
with
legal
constraints
and
more
to
do
just
with
their
their
preference
and
how
they
run
their
business.
BN
Thanks
for
that
question
mark
I'm
going
to
Bob
sorry.
BN
So
so
the
first
thing
I'll
say
is
that
the
and
I
think
that's
been
a
that's
something
we
realized,
particularly
through
David
doa's
work.
Is
that
the
amount
of
cash
and
Li
that
we're
charging
doesn't
necessarily
relate
to
that
25%
number
and,
and
so
that
becomes
sort
of
a
communication
challenge
as
well
around
how
our
affordable
housing
program
works.
The
other
thing
that
that
the
that
David's
work
showed
us
is
that
we're
right
now
we're
at
the
very
top
of
what
we
can
charge
for
cash
andl.
BN
Some
projects
could
probably
still
pay
slightly
more,
but
by
and
large
most
projects
if
we
go
much
higher,
we'll
decide
to
build
in
some
other
community,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
when
we
went
from
20%
to
25%.
That
is
something
that
we
I
think
the
council
at
that
time
said.
You
know
we
need
to
watch
that
we're
five
years
later,
we're
watching
it,
and
the
assessment
that
David
did
was
incredibly
helpful
in
highlighting
that
for
us.
BN
So
so
that's
our
reason
for
saying:
we've
reached
the
top
of
cash
andl,
that's
the
most.
We
can
extract
before.
Having
really
negative
impacts,
so,
let's
not
let's
not
mess
with
that
city
council.
Ask
us
to
go
back
and
find
a
solution
to
getting
more
onsite
middle
inome
units
and
what
we're
presenting
you
tonight
is
what
that
would
take.
So.
C
BN
B
BN
Well
it
it
also
took
out
the
provision
that
that
on-site
developments
had
to
be
done
or
completed
by
a
Housing,
Authority
or
or
someone
equal
to
that.
So.
H
There
was
a
section
in
the
report:
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
the
K
report
or
the
first
10
or
15
pages
or
the
next
100
or
200
Pages
anyway,
it
say
smaller
sites.
Developments
on
smaller
sites
and
infill
development
will
typically
lack
the
scale
to
set
aside
a
portion
of
the
site.
So
let's
say
that:
do
you
think
it's
worth
our
while
I
personally
do
but
I'm
like
Rachel,
not
an
expert
worth
our
while
to
get
more
smaller
sites
and
infill
developments
to
add
more
onsite,
affordable
units?
H
Because
right
now,
according
to
that
report,
it
said
it's
not
it
just
they
can't
do
it
a
25%.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean.
H
Okay,
yeah:
do
you
think
it's
valid
for
us
to
want
to
involve
this
small
I
would
think
that
infill
those
smaller
infi
developments
are
pretty
important,
since
we
don't
have
that
M
I
mean
how
many
large
tracks
do
we
have.
We
have
plenty
of
small
things
we
can
do
so.
We
should
pay
attention
to
this
shouldn't.
We,
how
important
those
smaller
sites
are
or
are
they're,
not
that
important.
AG
BP
Think
I
think
this
the
sentence
that
was
referenced
there,
what
what
I
was
trying
to
describe
with
that
with
that
is
that
to
do
for
a
a
tax
credit,
affordable
project
to
make
where
you're
able
to
leverage
outside
subsidies
and
actually
do
25%
on
site,
you
need,
you
need
a
large
enough
site
so
that
there's
enough
units
involved
that
that
25%,
affordable
requirement
results
in
something,
like
you
know,
50
units
or
more
affordable
units
that
are
that
are
required,
and
that's
that's
where
you
can
do
25%
feasibly
and
that's
where
you've
seen
it
happen.
BP
This
the
sense
about
smaller
sites
was
really
about
those
projects.
Don't
have
the
scale
to
make
that
solution
work,
and
so,
therefore,
that
25%
requirement
is
not
feasible
for
them,
but
the
the
15%
that's
being
discussed
here
at
at
120%
Ami
in
a
for
sale
project
that
that
would
be
feasible.
H
H
Corrected
my
next
question:
what
you
want
to
cqu.
H
BP
H
BP
I,
don't
know
why
I
don't
know
why
it
was
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
a
conversion
from
from
industrial
use
or
something
that
was
re
entitled
and
that
that
was
part
of
the
price.
You
know
pricing,
consideration,
but
I
think
I
think
it
was
like
25,000
a
unit
for
that
land,
whereas
most
of
the
other
projects
are
like
50,000,
un
and
60,000
un.
It
I.
E
BP
Think
but
I
think
I
think
what
it
shows
you
is
that,
where
there's
an
opportunity
to
re
entitle
land
that
that
is
restricted
to
a
use,
that's
not
residential-
and
by
that
restrict
you
know,
land
use,
BR
use
limitation
is
is
therefore
less
valuable.
There's
an
opport
opportunity
created
for
you
know
greater
feasibility
that
that
wasn't
the
focus.
M
H
G
At
the
end
of
the
or
near
the
end
of
the
report,
you
set
out
the
best
practices
from
other
cities
and
you
list
them
and
the
best
practices
in
creating
middle-income
housing
and
you
list
them
could
at
some
point
as
we're.
Considering
this
get
the
detail
as
to
what
the
results
of
those
best
practices
were
in
city
by
City,
because
you
simply
list
what
their
policies
are,
but
you
don't
tell
us
how
they
worked.
How
well
they
worked?
Could
we
get
that
information.
BP
That's,
that's,
that's
a
fair
request
and
you
know
I
certainly
understand
the
motivation
behind
it
and
we
can
I.
I
can
speak
to
it
now
if
you'd
like
or
we
can.
B
B
Very
good
because
these
are
our
our
three
main
ones
right.
Cash
and
L
modifications
well
hear.
Let's
do
one
by
one:
are
people
comfortable
with
the
proposed
cash
andl
modifications
moving
towards
the
per
square
foot
and
such
we
good
yeah
all
right,
I'm,
seeing
nodding
heads?
How
do
people
feel
about
the
change
in
the
on-site
for
sale,
middle
inome,
affordable
units
got
a
I.
Have
a
comment
on
this
one
yeah.
Do
you
mind
if
I
call
myself
to
get
it
started
here?
The
so
anyway?
B
There
there's
a
trade-off
here
in
terms
of
how
many
of
What
kinds
of
units
you're
getting
and,
and
so
it
would
be
wonderful
to
produce
more
for
sale,
on-site,
middle
income,
affordable
housing
but
I'm,
afraid
I
I,
just
wouldn't
trade,
for
example,
15
units
of
middle
income
on
site
for
sale
for
approximately
30
units
of
off-site
low-income
rental
product.
So
that's
where
I
fall
in
this
I
would
say
the
tradeoff
is
not
quite
worth
it.
B
G
Thing
I
I'm,
going
to
agree
with
you
on
that
I
used
I've,
always
been
an
advocate
for
on-site,
affordable
and
middle
income
housing.
But
when
you
look
at
the
numbers-
and
you
look
at
the
number
of
people
who
are
waiting
in
line
for
Bolding
housing,
Boulder
housing,
Partners,
affordable
units,
it's
not
a
good
trade-off
anymore
I'd.
Rather
that's
a
market,
that's
in
Greater
need
and
that's
the
market.
I
think
we
ought
to
be
serving.
G
If,
if,
if
we're
looking
at
a
two
for
one
or
even
greater
than
two
for
one
swap
and
so
I
I
think
the
I
I
would
rather
serve
better
the
affordable
rental
housing
market
Market
than
a
few
units
of
for
sale
doesn't
mean
I,
don't
want
to
see
it
I.
Just
don't
think
changing
the
policy
in
this
way
is
a
good.
G
Is
a
good
policy
to
to
make
that
swap.
Okay,
I.
J
Nicole
yeah
I
agree
with
what
you
said.
Erin
I
also
think
that
you
know
the
development's
probably
going
to
build
a
certain
number
of
units
and
anyway
and
when
we
get
cash
and
like
we
have
a
housing
crisis
and
when
we
get
cash
and
Li,
we
also
get
to
go,
build
other
additional
units,
and
so
that
also
creates
more
housing
in
general
in
our
community
and
maybe
with
some
of
these
updates,
we're
making.
J
H
Thanks
well,
two
things:
I'm
I'm,
going
to
disagree
on
this
one
and
I
think
we
should
switch
over
to
Middle
income
first
of
all,
I
guess:
income,
diversity
and
housing.
H
Diversity
is
important,
I
think
for
our
community
just
to
have
I'm
not
going
to
say
like
rich
and
poor,
exactly,
but
a
lower
income
and
just
higher
income
without
that
middle
I
think
really
affects
us
as
a
community,
and
we're
not
I
know
would
be
great
if
we
can
do
middle
income,
but
it
hasn't
happened
yet
so
unless
we
force
it,
I
can't
see
how
it's
going
to
happen
and
I'm
willing
to
take
the
chance
to
try.
This
is
my
opinion
about
it.
X
F
I
I
agree
with
where
tera's
going
here.
I
I
mean
I,
just
if
we're
behind
behind
our
goals
on
middle
Income
At.
What
point
do
we
play
catchup
at
what
point?
Do
we
wait
till
we've
reached
15%
of
affordable
by
2030
and
then
go
okay?
Now
it's
our
turn.
The
ship
will
be
sailed
by
then
the
community
will
will
will
be
toast
more
or
less
in
terms
of
it'll
be
insurmountable
to
make
up
on
middle
income
at
that
point,
so
I
I
just
don't
see
why
we
don't
move
in
that
direction.
Now.
F
I
and
I
also
wonder
if,
if
it's
that
trade-off
of
oh,
maybe
15
versus
you,
know,
30
or
40
for
affordable,
won't
that
over
time
that
Divergence
get
bigger
and
bigger
and
bigger
with
the
cost
of
building
and
therefore
where
the
rental
market
is
versus
ownership,
because
the
rental
market
is
just
going
to
keep
taking
off
and
keep
moving
past
the
ownership
model.
So
that's
just
going
to
become
even
harder
and
it's
become
an
even
worse
trade-off.
Year-Over-Year
I
would
imagine
so
I
I.
F
If
we
don't
start
making
chipping
away
now,
I
I
I'm
not
sure
we're
going
to
be
able
to
crawl
crawl,
it
back
back
and
get
to
our
goals.
V
Thanks
so
I
mean
I,
think
I'm,
let
let
me
just
State
the
issue
that
I
am
struggling
with
and
that
maybe
somebody
can
advise
me
or
just
just
something
to
think
about
as
as
we're
considering
this
so
there's
research
that
shows
that
living
among
the
wealthy,
even
as
an
upper
middle
class
person,
is
actually
detrimental
to
your
mental
health.
V
So
you
know
I
worry
if
we're
thinking
about
making
the
number
of
people
who
are
in
these
sort
of
locked
in
not
market
rate
homes,
smaller
I,
wonder
you
know
if
we're
exacerbating
that
and
just
creating
a
worse
experience
for
the
people
who
are
locked
into
these
homes-
and
you
know
you
all
have
heard
me
talk
before
that.
I
really
do
struggle
with
this
idea
of
limiting
the
equity
that
people
have
in
their
homes
just
period
And.
So
from
my
perspective,
anything
of
anything
we
can
do
to
not
do.
V
That
is
something
that
I
would
be
in
favor
of
moving
towards.
So
I
would
much
rather
have
more
rental
housing
than
have
these
Equity
limited,
affordable
housing
units,
because
I
I
think
it's
it's
hard
for
people
to
save
up
the
money
that
they
need
to
then
move
into
retirement
homes
or
or
do
other
things
that
those
of
us
with
market
rate
homes
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so.
B
I
Just
yeah
put
that
out
there
I
I
I,
think
we
are
having
a
middle
inome
housing
crisis
and
we
just
don't
see
the
list
as
readily,
because
people
are
moving
out
of
town
because
they
can't
afford
to
live
here,
and
we
heard
tonight
like,
let's
figure
out
a
way
to
make
more
than
10
police
officers
be
able
to
live
in
our
town
and
I.
I
Think
we
are
like
we
just
jump
around
so
much
on
like
I
think
we
sort
of
have
to
like
you
know,
follow
through
on
on
what
we
see
as
a
need
12
months
ago
and
and
staff
does
all
this
work
on
it
and
then
we're
like
I.
Don't
like.
Let's
just
stick
with
you
know:
lower
income,
affordable
housing,
I
I,
don't
I
I!
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
a
a,
not
great
Community,
when
teachers
and
nurses
and
police
officers
and
Baristas
cannot
live
in
this
community.
I
Cuz
we've
only
done
the
you
know
under
80%,
Ami
and
I
think
that's
what
we
were
trying
to
tackle.
I
think
that
most
of
those
people
you
know
kind
of
in
that
income
bracket
are,
you
know,
engaged
in
in
in
volunteerism
and
coach,
little
leagues
and
stuff,
so
I
I
just
think
we
really,
in
addition
to
not
having
people
able
to
do
those
jobs,
we
we
lose
out
on
it
as
a
community.
I
H
Just
I
I'm,
not
sure
I
agree
with
I'm,
not
sure
I
understand
what
you're
saying
Nicole,
just
because
I
think
for
me,
like
the
holiday
neighborhood
has
different
income
levels,
and
that
is
a
healthy,
healthy
place.
H
To
me
to
be
able
to
have
a
like
a
neighborhood
or
like
a
development
that
has
different
types
of
people
of
different
incomes
to
me
is
much
better
than
just
one
income,
because
then
you
get
to
see
what
other
people
are
like,
as
opposed
to
just
living
with
people
that
are
like
you,
so
I
think
from
a
social
point
of
view.
That's
even
a
good
idea:
middle
income
and
adding
affordable
units
on
site.
B
So
can
we
do
a
a
straw,
pull
here
U
how.
BF
B
B
So
it
looks
like
we
have
three
people
interested
in
taking
that
approach,
so
I
have
to
say
I
kind
of
apologize
here.
A
year
ago
we
said
what
would
it
take
to
get
more
on-site,
affordable
units,
and
so
that
was
like
we'd
love
to
have
more
onside,
affordable
and
I
just
speak.
For
me,
myself
first
was
like
oh
that's
what
it
would
take.
Well
now
we've
checked
it
out
now
we
know
what
it
would
take
and
I
would
say:
I,
don't
think
it's
worth
the
tradeoff
so
kudos
to
you
for
doing
the
work.
B
We
asked
you
to
do
the
work.
Thank
you
for
doing
the
work,
and
it's
just
just
that
the
reality
of
the
situation
is
not
necessarily
A
trade-off
that
we're
willing
to
make
so
appreciate
your
what
the
the
work
you
put
into
it.
How
about
the
Nexus
study
to
support
the
residential
linkage
fee?
Are
we
good
with
this
y?
Oh,
wait
got
I,
got
a
hand
here.
I
I
I
just
I,
don't
know
that
I'm
psyched
about
us
putting
a
linkage
fee
on
the
missing
middle
that
we
really
want
to
encourage
people
to
develop.
So
as
I
read
this,
this
is
including
things
like
duplexes
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
draw
in
things
like
adus
as
well,
but
if
I'm
reading
that
right,
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
I
support
the
staff
rack,
because
when
we
are
talking
about
applying
this
to
missing
middle
I,
we
got
to.
We
got
to
encourage
no
okay,
Kurt.
BN
BN
Wrong,
let.
BN
I
understand
your
your
concern
because
you
mentioned
duplexes
so.
BN
Yeah
so
I
think
how
this
would
apply.
There's
an
older
existing
1500
foot
home
in
Martin
Acres.
Let's
say
they
take
that
down
in
some
of
the
new
planning
things
that
we're
working
on
that
could
potentially
be
a
duplex
or
it
could
be
a
larger
single
family
home
under
a
duplex
scenario,
you're
actually
creating
an
additional
unit
so
that
one
additional
unit,
you're
you're,
actually
going
to
pay
cash.
On
LAN.
BN
And
if
we
do
the
Nexus
study
for
that
unit
that
you're
rebuilding,
if
it
also
becomes
much
larger,
then
you'll
pay
an
impact
fee
on
the
first
unit,
so
even
under
the
current
environment,
you're
going
to
pay
cash
andl.
If
you
take
a
single
family
and
turn
it
into
a
duplex.
BN
So
this
wouldn't
this
wouldn't
impact
that
in
any
way.
I
BI
B
X
A
AK
X
A
BN
So
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
for!
For
that
situation,
it's
going
to
be
a
a
relatively
small
Financial
impact
where
the
big
impact
is
is
if
they
make
build
a
much
larger
home.
That's
where
it's
going
to
have
the
the
financial
impact.
B
Okay,
well,
I
generally
saw
strong
support
for
this
I
R,
if
you're
still
on
the
okay,
but
I
think
we
got
the
Thumb
Thumbs
Up
for
this
one
and
is
Rachel.
You
made
a
couple
flags
on
the
cleanups,
but
are
we
generally
comfortable
with
the
cleanups
and
updates
and
clarifications
occurring.
I
Yeah
I
have
a
comment
on
back
to
the
required
rents.
So,
as
I
understand
it,
we've
now
said
we're
not
going
to
create
any
middle
income
for
owning.
So
if
we
take
away
the
80%
option
under
the
required
rents
for
mixed
income,
I
think
I've
done
this
ma.
Stop
me
if
I'm,
just
totally
reading
this
like
whole
chart
wrong,
but
like
at
80%
of
Ami,
two
people
making
85,000
a
year
could
qualify
for
one
of
those
units.
I
think
they
would
be
dis.
They're
not
going
to
be
eligible
under
the
the
affordable
rent.
I
They'd
have
to
pay
Market
Rent
Now
60,000
is
what
would
be
the
top
of
affordable
now
cuz,
the
rest
would
be
50%,
so
60%
or
50%
60%
for
two
people,
63,000,
so
I
think
that's
if
you
work
40
hours
a
week,
50
weeks
a
year
at
$16
an
hour
between
two
people,
each
making
32,000
you're
at
64,000
and
you're
out
so
I
think
we're
not
having
any
Workforce
housing
really
in
those
in
those
units.
So
we
we
really
going
the
opposite
on
on
middle
income.
Here
I,
don't
like
I'd
like
to
see
more
middle
income.
BN
C
can
I
ask
add
one
clarification
to
that
as
well,
so
the
the
rent
is
is
set
at
60%,
but
you
can
rent
it
to
someone
who
makes
more
than
60%
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
the
percentage
is,
but
I
think
it
can
go
up
to
about
85%
of
the
Ami
income
to
still
fall
within
the
your
the
qualification
for
that
60%
Ami
rent.
So
it's
a
it's
a
broad
range
for
each
Ami
category.
I
BN
BP
I
I
I
did
I
think
I.
Think
one
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
the
average
market
rate
rent
just
overall
for
Boulder
according
to
co-star,
is
$2,100
a
month,
so
that's
market
rate
and
the
affordable
rent
for
an
80%
Ami
unit.
This
is
like
kind
of
a
blend
of
size,
but
it's
about1
19950
a
month.
So
it's
not
that
far
off
a
market
rate.
I
B
B
AG
So,
if
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
with
the
the
change
for
Middle
income,
we
do
have
incentives
built
into
the
program
and
I,
don't
even
know
how
this
would
work,
because
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
get
us
off
our
schedule
for.
AG
But
I
would
want
to
strengthen
those
a
little
bit.
BA
AG
It
wouldn't
hurt
might
not
help
but
it,
but
it
won't
hurt
and
they
both
they
basically
revolve
around.
If
you
put
a
certain
amount
on
site,
you
get
more
middle-
inome
units
that
that's
the
incentive
we've
had
build
into
the
program.
I
would
just
sort
of
strengthen
that
a
little
bit.
Does
that
make
sense.
AG
More
time
so
the
way
we
have
it
right
now
it's
25%
and
there
are
there-
are
incentives
in
the
program.
So
if
you
put
75%
of
the
required
units
on
site,
you
get
a
you
get
a
different
mix
of
of
pricing
H,
in
other
words,
and
you
get
more
middle
income,
it's
an
incentive,
so
I
would
want
to
strengthen
that
and
there's
a
couple,
others
that
are
similar.
AG
So
if
you
have
a
smaller
project
right
now,
it
says
if
you
have
a
project
of
20
units
or
smaller,
all
the
pricing
is
Middle
income.
I
I
was
thinking
to
raise
that
to
like
40
units
or
smaller.
All
you
know,
all
all
the
pricing
could
be
middle
income,
so
I
would
just
suggest
that
we
strengthen
those
incentives
again
it
might
not
help
because
the
25%
is
so
kind
of
infeasible,
but
it
wouldn't
hurt
either.