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B
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Further
Ado
good
evening,
everybody
Welcome
to
tonight's
study
session
of
the
booker
city
council,
I,
am
council,
member,
Matt,
Benjamin
and
great
to
have
you
all
with
us.
Happy
Thursday
grateful
to
see
an
end
of
these
red
flag
days
and
certainly
welcoming
that
much
needed
rain.
That's
coming
tomorrow,
so
to
start
off
with
a
little
left
of
tea,
do
you
guys
want
to
hear
a
joke
about
paper,
never
mind
it's
terrible
all
right,
so
we
get
that
off.
I
know
it's
all
right!
Tara!
We
got
you.
B
That's
all
yours,
no
credit
needed
either
so
we've
got
a
packed
agenda
tonight
makes
me
wonder
if
I
drew
the
Short
Straw
on
it
or
not,
but
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
regarding
our
homeless
strategies
and
they'll
include
topics
of
adult
homelessness
and
HSBC,
our
Boulder
County
Partners,
family
homelessness,
with
Boulder
County
and
our
effa
partners
and
the
city
stamp
updates
as
well.
B
So
three
meaty
items
I
want
to
recognize
for
the
community
as
a
whole
that
we
all
appreciate
how
important
the
issues
are
around
homelessness
and
to
everybody
in
the
city.
We
understand
the
urgency
and
the
harm
to
both
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
the
community
as
a
whole.
We
and
and
with
that
we
will
not
be
making
any
decisions
tonight,
rather
we're
going
to
be
hearing
updates
of
this
important
work.
This
study
session
will
tee
up
more
conversations
and
possible
actions
by
the
city
in
the
near
future.
B
B
Each
of
these
topics
on
its
own
frankly
will
warrant
a
three-hour
study
session,
if
not
more,
and
so
we
will
all
want
likely
want
to
have
a
lot
to
say
a
lot
to
ask,
but
but
that
we
just
simply
don't
have
the
time
tonight
to
wedge
all
that
in
there,
but
know
that
these
topics
will
come
up
again
and
we'll
get
a
chance
to
really
sink
our
teeth
into
that.
B
In
future
conversations,
and
with
that
said,
I'll
ask
staff
and
my
Council
colleagues
to
kind
of
limit
themselves
to
just
a
few
questions
for
each
topic
and
just
a
few
minutes
of
comments.
I'd
also
like
to
ask
that
we
view
these
items
through
the
lens
of
the
externalities
and
the
impact
that
this
work
is
having
with
regards
to
resources
and
Partnerships
and
how
they
will
improve
the
work
we
are
doing
asking
ourselves.
Is
it
the
work
of
the
city
and
or
the
county,
or
should
we
be
doing
more
or
less
of
those
things?
B
B
We
will
review
staff's
presentations
for
each
of
the
items
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
questions
at
the
end
of
each
of
the
presentations
of
each
of
those
three
subject.
Matters
will
be
a
chance
for
us
to
engage
in
questions
and
comments.
So
let's
not
react
to
individual
slides,
but
wait
for
each
of
those
topical
presentations.
B
To
finish,
and
if
you
have
questions
you
know,
let's,
let's
be
patient,
hold
them
up
and
we're
going
to
try
to
get
done
at
a
reasonable
time,
and
so
let's
try
to
limit
to
just
a
few
questions
and
comments.
B
E
E
You
need
to
hear
from
the
people
who
are
actually
doing
a
lot
of
the
work
and
so
I'll
ask
our
director
of
housing
and
Human
Services
Kurt
fernhobber
to
give
a
intro
or
kick
us
off
and
certainly
introduce
our
folks
that
we
have
I'm
here,
including
some
of
our
friends
at
the
county,
who
we
do
a
lot
of
this
work
in
partnership
with
right.
F
Thank
you
and
good
evening.
Council
Kurt
fernhauer,
director
of
Housing
and
Human
Services,
so
I'm
I'm
actually
thankful
that
these
topics
have
come
together
tonight.
They
certainly
intersect
and
we
often
get
the
question
of
as
Matt
just
asked.
You
know
what
is
the
county
or
whether
part
County
doing
or
what?
What
are
other
partners
doing?
F
I
must
say
about
five.
Six
years
ago,
when
I
seven
years
ago,
when
I
joined
the
city,
I
would
occasionally
have
a
meeting
with
the
county.
Now
I
have
meetings
with
the
county
every
week
on
topics
and
our
staff
does
as
well
on
multiple
things.
There's
four
significant
areas
where
we
coordinate
together
on
a
very
regular
basis.
The
first
is
affordable
housing.
The
second
is
adult
homelessness.
F
The
third
is
family
homelessness
and
other
services,
and
the
last
one
is
behavioral
health
and
mental
health
services,
and
tonight
you're
going
to
hear
some
significant
accomplishments
that
have
been
made
through
this
coordination
at
the
city
level
and
the
county
level
you're
going
to
hear
approaches
that
we're
doing
to
prevent
homelessness
both
with
individuals
and
Families,
but
you're
also
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
the
challenges
that
we're
having
including
the
the
scale
of
the
issue
and
I,
should
have
asked
for
the
presentation
to
be
pulled
up
as
I
was
talking,
but
if
that
could
be
pulled
up
great.
F
Thank
you
thanks,
Emily,
and
with
that
you
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
and
so
tonight
you're
going
to
be
hearing
about
Homeless
Solutions
for
Boulder
County
about
five
and
a
half.
Almost
six
years
ago,
the
city
of
Boulder
endeavored
to
create
a
strategy
for
addressing
homelessness.
That
strategy
has
guided
our
work
ever
since
it
was
a.
There
was
a
significant
Community
process
in
creating
that
strategy,
and
shortly
that
thereafter,
Homeless
Solutions
for
Boulder
County
was
created
so
tonight,
you're
going
to
hear
from
Megan
Newton
who's.
F
So
briefly,
I
want
to
highlight
a
handful
of
the
the
significant
accomplishments
that
are
really
based
on
the
implementation
of
that
strategy.
So
over
1800
individuals
have
exited
homelessness
since
2017
in
our
community
in
in
many
different
ways,
all
going
into
some
sort
of
shelter
or
housing.
Some
with
Services
some
of
the
wrap
around
Services,
some
were
independent.
F
473
individuals
were
served
through
the
covid
recovery
center
over
about
a
two-year
period
and
Boulder
County
was
the
first
Community
in
the
metro
area
to
get
the
the
built
for
zero
scorecard,
and
that
is
that
is
adjudicated
by
an
external
party
and
Boulder,
County
and
and
Heidi
will
be
able
to
talk
about
that
further.
If
you
have
questions
as
well,
we
have
150
units
of
permit
Supportive
Housing
that
are
under
construction
that
are
coming
online
in
2024..
F
Over
12
million
dollars
of
Grants
have
been
written
by
our
department
so
far
this
year
to
support
this
type
of
work
and
there's
been
a
real
effort
over
the
last
year
to
bring
in
other
landlords
into
supporting
individuals
that
have
that
are
coming
out
of
homelessness
and
we've
got
19
new
landlords
that
have
leased
up
to
individuals,
and
there
was
a
specific
that
was
a
specific
effort
by
the
shelter
and
actually
hiring
a
staff
member
to
focus
on
that.
F
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
to
Megan
Newton,
who
will
start
off
with
that
strategy
that
was
developed
and
I
must
say,
it's
evolved
significantly
over
time
in
the
programs
that
support
it
have
evolved
and
you'll
hear
some
of
that
tonight.
Thank
you.
G
G
the
city
brought
in
the
corporation
for
Supportive
Housing,
which
are
National
experts
in
this
field
to
work
with
both
the
city
and
county
staff,
as
well
as
Community
Partners,
on
developing
a
strategy,
and
these
were
the
six
main
strategies
that
came
out
of
that
work,
and
most
of
our
work
today
is
Guided
by
these
strategies.
Reference
some
of
the
programming
changes
to
meet
best
practices,
but
these
are
the
guidance
strategies.
G
The
first
one
is
to
expand
access
to
prevention.
As
you
know,
this
is
extremely
important,
as
we
see
inflow
numbers
that
always
outmatch
the
ability
we
have
to
house
folks.
We
have
to
focus
on
prevention
to
be
able
to
even
make
a
dent
in
this
work.
The
second
strategy
is
to
support
basic
and
emergency
services.
This
includes
things
like
coordinated
entry
and
Emergency
Shelters.
G
The
third
and
often
want
to
talk
about
the
most
is
to
expand
access
to
housing.
Bluebird
project,
that
is
in
the
city
of
Boulder,
that
will
have
40
units
comes
online
early
next
year
and
then
Kurt
referenced,
one
in
Longmont,
but
Zenia
will
have
55
units
that
will
go
county-wide
and
then
Mount
Calvary
will
also
have
15
units
of
permanent
Supportive,
Housing.
So
I
know
we
talk
about
this
often,
but
as
the
solution
to
homelessness,
so
it
is
probably
the
most
important
in
my
opinion.
G
G
We
support
best
practices
and
that
is
around
prevention,
case
management,
housing,
housing.
First,
all
of
those
things
fall
under
the
best
practices
and
then
creating
safe
and
welcoming
spaces
is
the
final
strategy
that
was
identified
next
Slide.
The
next
slide
will
go
to
Heidi
grow,
who
works
for
on
the
solutions
for
Boulder
County.
H
Good
evening,
Council,
first
and
foremost,
thank
you
for
having
me
I
am
Heidi
Grove
I'm,
the
Homeless
Solutions
for
Boulder
County
systems
manager
housed
in
Boulder
County,
Community
Services,
and
this
slide
just
reflects
the
structure
of
HSBC.
So
the
although
we
have
an
executive
board
that
is
comprised
of
executive
leadership
across
the
county,
Kirk
being
one
of
them
County,
the
electives
do
provide
guidance
to
the
directors,
and
then
we
talk
about
that
guidance
and
our
executive
board.
H
So
many
people
may
or
may
not
know
that
in
December
of
2022.
So,
just
a
few
months
ago,
the
United
States
interagency
Council
on
homelessness
released
its
new
strategic
plan
on
addressing
homelessness
across
the
country.
This
is
the
First
Federal
full
plan,
we've
seen
since
many
moons
ago
of
the
10-year
plan
to
end
homelessness,
and
so
we
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
reviewing
that
140
plus
page
document
and
just
wanted
to
kind
of
provide
some
high-level
overview
for
Council.
H
It
has
comprised
of
six
different
pillars
and
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
of
that
screen
that
picture.
It's
though
those
are
the
foundational
pillars
which
is
equity,
evidence
and
collaboration,
and
then
it
has
three
additional
pillars:
what
they
call
solution:
pillars
which
is
housing
and
Supportive,
Services,
homeless
response
and
homeless
prevention
within
each
one
of
those
pillars
is
up
to
eight
sub
strategies.
H
We've
spent
some
time
assessing
and
comparing
where
HSBC
is
in
alignment
with
the
strategies
we
haven't
fully
sussed
out
everything,
but
HSBC
is
very
much
in
alignment
with
where
the
United
States
and
the
federal
agencies
are
going
towards
to
addressing
homelessness.
Unlike
the
10-year
plan
and
homelessness,
their
goal
is
to
reduce
homelessness
by
25
by
the
end
of
2025..
H
We
also
work
in
Partnership
leveraging
these
pillars,
and
this
Guidance,
the
the
Boulder
County,
is
actually
the
chair
of
the
metro
area.
Chamber
metro
area,
County
Commissioners
group
this
year
and
commissioner
locheman
is
the
chair
of
that
group
and
they
are
leveraging
these
pillars
to
actually
work
across
the
multiple
jurisdictions
of
County
governments
in
the
metro
area
and
really
kind
of
sussing
out
which
pillars
they
want
to
focus
on
right
now,
they're
really
identifying
those
foundational
pillars
to
provide
us
that
support
across
the
region.
H
To
integrate
the
strategies
that
we
already
have,
in
addition,
we
are
so
me
and
Megan,
and
many
others
across
the
Metro
region
meet
once
a
month.
So
all
of
us
government
individuals
meet
once
a
month
in
partnership
with
metro,
Denver
homeless
initiative
to
do
Regional,
strategic
approaches
and
make
sure
that
we're
not
impacting
negatively
our
neighbors
and
vice
versa,
next
slide.
H
So
this
slide
is
just
kind
of
an
overview
of
how
we
take
braided
and
Blended
funding
to
maximize
and
stretch
our
dollars
as
much
as
possible
and
on
one
side
you
can
see
where
city
of
Boulder
has
had
Financial
investment
and
then
the
county
as
well,
and
then,
where
you
see
it
where
it
says
basic
needs
and
limited
to
no
funding.
That
really
is
around
clothes
and
food
banks.
More
of
the
faith-based
Community
Resources
next
slide.
H
So
coordinated
entry,
as
many
of
you
know,
is
an
assessment
to
ensure
that
we
are
connecting
folks
that
are
presenting
as
homelessness
or
presenting
unhoused
and
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community
to
ensure
that
we
match
them
to
the
most
appropriate
resource
possible.
With
the
most
rapid
exit
to
housing
in
2022,
we
had
1
120
unduplicated
screens
with
85
of
those
presenting
at
coordinated
entry
being
new
to
the
system,
meaning
that
they
had
not
had
a
prior
assessment,
all
the
way
back
to
2017.
H
So,
as
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
we
are
built
for
zero
community
and
cohort,
and
some
of
the
data
modeling.
That
is
in
alignment
with
both
National
best
practices
and
what
we
see
across
the
region
is
what
they
call
an
inflow
and
outflow
chart.
What
you
will
see-
and
we
have
it
Incorporated
this
yet
is
there's
also
a
sub
bar,
a
middle
bar
in
the
data
modeling
that
talks
about
inactive
and
inactive
means
that
the
individual
has
not
touched
or
interacted
with
system
partners
for
over
180
days.
H
Mdha
just
implemented
a
policy
that
it's
90
days
or
more.
We
have
not
integrated
that
yet,
because
we
have,
we
have
some
work
to
do
on
integrating
Outreach
data
into
the
data
system
that
we
use
for
coordinated
entry
and
service
referrals.
That
being
said,
the
last
time
we
took
a
look
at
our
attrition
analysis.
It
was
showing
that,
on
a
rolling
monthly
basis,
we
attrition
30
of
those
that
have
done
CE
access
services
and
we
no
longer
know
where
they
are
in
the
community
and
most
likely
they
are
not
in
the
community.
H
I
H
In
all,
we
exited
339
individuals
from
homelessness
in
2022,
which
is
an
average
of
28
individuals
per
month,
and
that
gives
us
an
exit
ratio
which
is
the
comparison
of
the
inflow
entry
and
the
outflow
exit
of
30
for
the
year.
The
other
thing
that
I
would
like
to
announce
that
we
just
found
out
yesterday
is
that
we've
been
doing
our
work
with
built
for
zero
and
Community
Solutions,
specifically
around
veteran
homelessness,
as
you
guys
were,
or
were
made
aware
of.
H
We
were
the
first
in
the
community
and
in
the
region
to
be
certified
for
Quality
data,
not
just
for
veterans,
but
single
adults,
and
we've
been
continuing
to
work
our
by
name
list
in
case
conferencing,
which
we
have
many
and
because
of
the
work
that
we've
done.
We
are
now
officially
deemed
in
what
they
call
the
last
mile,
which
is
the
very
last
step
to
functional
zero
and
to
get
functional
zero
for
built
for
zero.
That
means
that
you
have
three.
I
H
I
forgot
about
that
one,
sorry,
so
this
in
addition
to
all
of
the
work
that
HSBC
does,
we
also
have
a
behavioral
health
roadmap
initiative.
That
is
one
of
the
priorities
of
the
County
Commissioners.
H
The
the
identified
items
that
you
see
on
the
screen
are
some
of
the
priorities
that
have
been
identified
by
the
behavioral
health
roadmap
team
and
they
are
anticipating
coming
up
with
a
draft
in
some
June
for
moving
how
we're
going
to
address
behavioral
health
challenges
throughout
the
county.
Moving
forward
now
I
hand
it
over
to
you
Megan.
G
Thank
you.
This
slide
shows
our
plan
for
a
summer.
Point
time
count
when
Kurt
and
I
did
our
update
last
September.
There
was
a
suggestion
that
we
do
the
point
in
time
count
over
the
summer
traditionally
HUD
requires
that
we
do
the
point
in
time
count
in
January,
so
we
just
did
it
a
few
months
back,
but
we
decided
to
do
the
summer
count
knowing
that
I
think
we've
all
seen
A
variation
of
population
between
January
and
summer
months.
G
So
our
plan
is
to
do
it
at
the
end
of
July,
and
this
will
will
primarily
try
to
focus
on
the
unsheltered
population,
because
that
seems
to
be
what
varies
throughout
the
year
and
we
will
be
utilized
utilizing
volunteers.
City
staff
will
be
leading
the
count
with
all
with
partners
and
Outreach
workers
for
the
city
of
Boulder,
so
keep
your
eyes
peeled
because
we
will
be
request
requesting
volunteers.
G
So
if
that's
something
that
would
interest
you,
it
would
be
in
the
evening
and
we'll
go
out
and
do
a
quick
survey
with
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
primarily
unsheltered.
Next
slide,
please
High
utilize
we
restarted.
This
is
an
effort
that
we've
done
before,
but
we've
seen
the
importance
of
it.
G
There
are
individuals
in
the
community
who
we
call
High
system
utilizers,
and
this
is
a
cross
between
Justice
systems,
so
the
jail
BPD,
the
Sheriff's
Office,
the
D.A
muni
court,
as
well
as
Emergency
Services,
like
the
emergency
room
and
withdrawal
management
and
so
high
utilizers.
We
Define
them
as
individuals
who
place
the
disproportionate
strain
on
organizations
put
themselves
in
situations
which
jeopardize
both
health
and
safety
and
create
threats
to
Public,
Safety.
G
So
you'll
see
on
the
screen,
all
the
different
partners
who
are
in
the
room,
different
parts
of
the
city,
different
parts
of
the
County,
as
well
as
individual
agencies
who
do
this
work
in
the
community.
G
Do
we've
tried
to
work
with
them
in
the
past
and
they
just
don't
fit
into
a
lot
of
our
systems,
and
so
we're
trying
to
brainstorm
to
find
different
suggestions.
Different
programming.
That
would
work
for
some
of
these
folks.
We're
currently
working
on
a
list
with
45
folks
and
we've
had
quite
I
mean
limited
success
in
that
these
folks
are
very
challenging.
G
But
the
collaboration
that
happens
at
the
table
is
very
impressive:
around
okay
they're
in
the
emergency
room
and
they'll
pop
up
and
tell
the
shelter
the
shelter
will
tell
us,
then
we'll
start
looking
for
them
and
doing
the
work
to
collaborate
through
all
the
different
providers
in
the
room,
and
so
it's
so
far
it's
been
great
and
I
think
it
has
a
lot
of
potential
going
forward
slide.
G
Building
home
I
talked
about
building
home
back
in
September,
but
we
got
the
contract
signed
last
month,
and
so
we
are
off
and
running.
This
is
a
two
component
program.
The
city
is
contracted
with
Focus
re-entry
who
is
planning
to
partner
with
peakboard,
to
provide
the
peer
support
and
daytime
programming,
and
then
we're
contracted
with
Boulder
shelter
to
provide
the
housing
retention
team,
which
is
a
multi-disciplinary
team.
I
know,
there's
been
some
conversations
lately
around
folks
who
are
with.
G
Let
me
back
up
a
little
bit
with
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
which
is
the
housing
that
we
typically
place.
People
in
is
highly
successful.
It's
got
an
80
success
rate
that,
when
folks
are
housed,
they
stay
housed,
but
we
do
have
that
20
that
sometimes
struggles,
and
so
this
is
an
arpa
funded
project
that
we
put
in
place
to
help
that
20.
G
So
our
hope,
with
these
teams
is
we'll
have
both
peers
case
managers.
Mental
health
professionals,
as
well
as
medical
nurses
and
nurse
practitioners,
is
that
we'd
be
able
to
surround
them
with
support,
improve
and
improve
their
housing
retention,
reduce
their
feelings
of
isolation
for
people
who
have
been
recently
housed
build
community
for
people
who
have
formally
experienced
chronic
homelessness.
We've
heard-
and
we
know
that
folks
have
a
community
in
both
the
shelter
and
on
shelter
our
settings
and
when
we
move
them
into
housing.
G
There's
a
very
significant
feel
feeling
of
isolation,
and
so
part
of
this
program
is
to
help
connect
them
to
community
and
help
that
feeling
of
isolation
and
also
mobilize
resources
to
address
negative
and
unhealthy
behavior
before
it
leads
to
eviction.
So
we
can
raise
that
80
percent
success
rate
up
a
little
bit
higher
next
slide,
please.
G
So
these
are
the
four
main
categories
that
we've
identified
currently
as
being
significant
challenges
accessible
to
how
accessible
housing
stock
for
individuals
who've
been
able
to
access
housing
subsidies
is
become
increasingly
harder
to
identify
available
units
that
they
are
able
to
lease
both
older
housing
partners
and
Boulder
County
Housing
Authority
in
one
of
our
housing
exit
meetings
that
we
had
in
the
last
month
reported
that
they
had
double.
G
The
number
of
individuals
apply
for
assistance
through
their
recent
lotteries
for
housing,
Choice
vouchers,
so
the
need
is
growing
in
the
housing
stock
may
not
be
keeping
up,
and
so
that
has
been
an
increase
in
struggle
also
identified,
as
the
challenge
is:
the
lack
of
treatment
options
for
individuals
with
mental
health,
diagnosis,
diagnosis,
substance
use
disorders
and
then
extreme
lack
for
individuals
who
are
have
co-occurring
disorders.
So
someone
might
be
able
to
find
a
bed
in
a
substance
use
program,
but
because
of
their
mental
health,
they
are
disqualified
or
vice
versa.
G
They
won't
take
them
in
that
bed,
obviously
not
obviously,
but
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
we're
working
with
rely
on
Medicaid
and
those
Residential
Treatment
beds
are
extremely
Limited
inflow
into
the
system,
as
I
Heidi
showed
earlier
impact
system
decisions
and
the
need
to
continue
as
a
region
and
a
nation
to
look
to
for
interventions
Upstream
once
they
get
to
homelessness,
it's
much
harder
to
resolve,
and
so
we
continue
to
look
at
policies
and
interventions
that
might
prevent
folks
from
entering
homelessness,
whether
that
be
discharge,
planning
from
jails
or
prisons
or
hospitals
or
any
of
those
systems
that
might
be
of
touch
points
before
they
get
to
homelessness.
G
And
then
the
final
one
we
identified
was
the
Acuity
of
need.
We
continue
to
see
a
high
number
of
individuals
who
who
need
substantial,
supports
to
get
and
remain
housed,
but
we've
also
started
to
observe
individuals
who
do
not
require
significant
supports
stay
in
the
system
longer
due
to
the
increase
in
the
cost
of
living.
So
historically
folks
might
enter
the
shelter
and
then
be
able
to
self-resolve.
Some
of
those
folks
are
are
staying
in
the
system
a
little
bit
longer.
Just
because
of
the
cost
of
living
next
slide,
please
all
right.
G
G
Opening
of
the
tribe
recovery
residence
tribe
has
been
providing
outpatient
services
at
the
county
site
since
the
end
of
last
year,
but
we're
pretty
close
to
being
able
to
open
a
house
which
will
open
these
Services
up
to
folks
who
are
currently
experiencing
homelessness
and
give
them
a
place
to
stay.
Will
they
access
these
Services?
G
We're
also
looking
into
acquiring
an
HSBC
program
evaluator,
which
was
discussed
at
The
Retreat
a
little
while
back
and
then
placing
clients
into
the
larger
housing
programs
that
I
talked
about
earlier,
such
as
Bluebird
and
Zenia,
and
Mount,
Calvary
and
I.
Think
next
slide
and
I
think
we'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Kurt.
F
Thank
you
Megan.
So,
just
over
a
year
ago,
at
the
city,
council
Retreat,
one
of
your
priorities
that
you
put
forward
for
us
to
work
on
was
creating
and
implementing
a
day
service
center
for
individuals
experiencing
homelessness,
to
go
during
the
day
to
be
able
to
receive
a
variety
of
services,
an
open
carrying
facility
where
they
can
be
welcomed
and
be
provided
with
Alternatives
and
and
certainly
Housing
Solutions
as
well.
So
this
is
just
a
summary
of
where
we're
at
so
last
summer.
F
We
reached
out
to
the
community
and
and
did
engagement
with
the
community
when
and
service
providers,
about
criteria
for
where
to
place
or
such
a
facility.
What
kind
of
programs
should
be
there,
then?
In
late
November,
we
released
a
request
for
a
proposal
for
a
service
provider
to
to
run
this
service
that
closed
in
the
first
quarter
of
2023,
we
did
not
receive
any
applications
or
replies
to
that
RFP
that
met
the
requirements
and,
however,
the
boulder
shelter
who
was
going.
F
They
were
going
through
a
a
leadership
change
at
that
exact
same
time,
reached
out
to
us
and
said
that
they
would
like
to
have
conversations
with
us
and
discussions
about
that
that
program.
We
are
now
in
weekly
conversations
with
the
shelter
in
in
relation
to
moving
that
forward.
F
We've.
We
also
put
a
grant
proposal
forward
in
February
I
think
it
was
2.5
million
dollars
that
we've
requested
to
support
this
initiative
from
the
state
and
I
I'd
like
to
announce
tonight
to
the
council
and
to
the
public
that
we've
actually
locate.
F
And
it
will
be
at
1844,
Folsom
Street.
This
is
a
facility,
it's
a
older
office
building
one
story
and
it
had.
Last
year
it
had
started
to
go
the
initial
steps
of
an
entitlement
process
to
develop
it
into
a
a
larger
scale
office.
Building
we
met
with
the
developers
a
month
or
so
ago
and
had
a
conversation
with
them,
and
they've
now
agreed
to
change
directions
where
that
office.
F
Existing
office
building
could
be
open
this
summer
to
provide
that
service,
and
then
it
will
be
redeveloped
in
the
future
as
a
a
permanent
home
for
a
day
service
center
and
and
with
50
units
of
permanent
support
of
housing.
Above
it,
we're
excited
to
have
that
close
link
between
the
services
and
the
housing
in
one
facility,
and
it
will
be
another
opportunity
for
individuals,
some
of
those
20
percent
that
Megan
spoke
about
that
have
some
challenges
in
transitioning
into
housing
that
could
be
housed
in
such
a
location.
F
So
you'll
you'll
hear
more
about
that,
and
with
that
this
is
our
last
slide,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
one,
it
has
our
the
the
questions.
F
F
We
will
be
using
the
affordable
housing
fund
to
support
those
50
units
of
of
psh
and
in
the
2024
budget
we
will
be
likely
requesting
from
city
council
an
amount
somewhere
between
four
and
five
million
dollars
of
general
fund
money
to
support
the
creation
of
this
new
facility
for
four
day
Services
and
the
developer
has
hired
an
architect
which
works
with
trauma-based
design
for
such
projects
and
we're
excited
to
be
partnering
with
them
to
move
this
initiative
forward.
F
B
Thanks
Kurt
and
thanks
Megan
and
Heidi
for
teaming
up
on
that
presentation,
a
lot
of
really
important
information,
and
perhaps
speaking
on
behalf
of
everyone
on
Council
awesome
that
we
have
a
place
for
the
day
service
center.
It
was
one
of
our
big
priorities
at
our
Retreat.
So
it's
really
great
news.
So
we
have
a
location.
We've
got
a
road
map
and
it's
happening
this
year,
so
just
credit
to
Curtin
the
team
and
everybody
who
sort
of
joined
together
to
get
us
to
that
place
because
talking
about
something's
great.
B
But
when
you
have
something
tangible,
a
brick
and
mortar,
really
sort
of
feels
good
and
feels
like
we're,
headed
in
a
good
direction.
So
thank
you
for
that.
So
for
my
Council
colleagues.
As
we
look
to
sort
of
talk
about
this
for
a
little
bit,
there's
not
really
any
direction.
That
staff
is
looking
for
on
this,
that
we'll
we'll
take
a
bite
at
that
apple
in
terms
of
direction
or
modifications
and
maybe
of
subsequent
meeting
down
the
road.
B
But
I'd
love
to
just
limit
us
to
just
two
or
three
questions,
just
to
get
clarifying
and
just
to
maybe
dive
in
a
little
more,
and
if
you
have
any
comments,
maybe
like
two
minutes
just
to
kind
of
keep
us
on
task.
We
do
have
two
more
presentations
to
get
through
and
then
a
larger
conversation
on
the
back
end.
So
if
we
can
just
limit
those
questions,
just
a
couple,
each
person
I
mean
hopefully
stay
on
track.
All
right,
I
see
Bob
go
for
it.
J
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
will
have
questions
about
the
day.
Services
Center
that
I
heard
just
announced
so
I'm
going
to
yield
to
them
on
that.
But
I
do
have
one
comment.
One
question
first
of
a
comment:
first,
thank
you
so
much
to
staff
for
the
point
in
time
survey
that
you're
planning
this
summer
I
know
this
is
something
that
many
of
us
have
suggested
for
a
while
and
I.
J
Think
it's
great
I
know
it's
expensive
and
I
know
it's
time
consuming,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
give
us
some
really
important
data.
That's
going
to
be
very
different
from
the
data
that
we
get
at
the
January
survey
of
homelessness
or
homeless
individuals
and
I
hope
that
we
continue
this
summer
after
summer,
so
that
we
can
use
this
year
as
a
Baseline
and
then
and
then
see
what
our
Trends
are
in
future
years.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
second
is
a
question.
J
Megan.
You
went
through
very
quickly
a
whole
lot
of
stuff.
That's
coming
up
and
and
I
may
have
missed
this,
but
I
know
that
we
spoke
at
a
council
meeting.
Oh,
maybe
three
or
four
months
ago
about
an
on-street
mental
health
team
that
was
was
not
going
to
be
immediately
accompanied
by
the
by
the
police
department.
J
I
know
we
have
a
CR
cirt
team,
that's
a
cert
team
that
that
is
paired
with
the
police,
but
I
think
we
also
talked
about
a
homeless
team
assuming
a
homeless,
Outreach
team,
that's
mental
health
oriented
without
police.
Do
we
is
that
still
on
on
the
plan?
And
if
so,
when
is
that
going
to
be
launched.
F
Yeah
thanks
for
that
question,
Bob
yeah,
so
we're
working
very
closely
Wendy
Schwartz
is
is
heading
that
we're
working
very
closely
with
PD
and
fire
we're
in
the
process
now
of
moving
forward
with
HR
and
figuring
out
how
to
staff
those
positions
we're
getting
ready
to
advertise
for
those
positions,
we're
shooting
for
probably
the
next
three
months,
I
think
to
get
that
launched.
F
It
will
depend,
of
course,
on
our
ability
to
hire
the
correct
staff
to
to
implement
that
behavioral
health
staff
are
are
few
and
far
between
as
far
as
the
the
need,
but
we
are
are
confident
we'll
get
that
going
later
this
summer.
K
I
K
Not
necessarily
a
homeless
program
right
like
that's,
for
anybody
in
the
community,
that's
experiencing,
say
a
behavioral
Metro
mental
health
issue
that
doesn't
require
police
support.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
F
Correct
I
mean
certainly
there's
a
percentage
of
individuals
experiencing
homelessness.
That
will
use
a
program
like
that,
but
it's
really
meant
to
support
the
The
Wider
community.
So
so,
thanks
for
that,
Aaron
thanks.
K
Sir
yeah
I'm
sure
there
will
be
members
of
the
people
experiencing
homelessness
that
will
take
advantage
of
that,
but
or
use
it,
but
so
other
need
numbers.
Oh
thanks.
B
Thanks
for
clarifying
that
Aaron
I
see
Tara,
then
Mark.
L
So
this
question
is
about
the
building
hope
program
which
sounds
super
exciting
and
especially
the
peer
support.
Part
of
that.
So
can
you
walk,
walk
us
through
how
it
would
work.
Let's
say
right
now
we
combined
affordable
housing
with
you
know,
helping
people
that
are
mentally
that
have
mental
illness
or
behavioral
health
issues
into
our
affordable
housing
program.
So
right
now
we'll
have,
let's
say
in
an
average.
L
Let's
say
we
have
what
two
to
three
people
that
are
either
have
co-occurring
disorders
or
severe
mental
illness
that
are
placed
in
these
affordable
housing
units
neighborhoods
that
are
really
affecting
the
other
people
that
are
trying
to
have
a
happy
life
in
there.
As
you
know,
I've
been
talking
a
lot
about
how
I'm
trying
to
fix
this.
So
tell
me
how
building
home
and
peer
support
is
going
to
affect
this
and
how
many
times
a
week,
do
you
think
people
who
are
experiencing
severe
mental
health
will
be
able
to
get
some
help.
G
Thank
you.
So
this
team
has
met
with
specifically
for
the
housing
retention
team
is
meant
for
that
population.
Those
folks
who,
when
we
place
them
in
permanent
Supportive,
Housing
Programs
that
comes
with
case
management,
but
sometimes
that
case
manager
may
be
working
with
30
to
40
other
folks,
and
so
they
don't
lay
eyes
on
the
person.
G
It
might
be
once
every
two
weeks
or
once
every
week
this
team
will
not
only
would
they
have
that
caseworker,
but
it
would
be
supplemented
by
this
team.
So
it
would
be
a
real
group
effort
in
that
they
would
bring
a
clinician,
a
mental
health
clinician
with
them
as
well,
if
they,
if
they
had
any
medical
issues,
they'd
bring
nurse
practitioner
or
an
RN
with
them,
and
so
the
intention
of
that
it
would
vary
by
person,
but
no
less
than
once
a
week.
G
But
I
would
think
and
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
when
they
first
get
housed.
It
would
be
multiple
times
a
week
and
then
the
stability
comes
that
would
lessen
and
envisioning
that
at
some
point
that
we
would
hope
that.
Maybe
they
don't
need
that
level
of
support
and
we
could
take
them
down
to
just
case
management,
but
maybe
not
like
that.
There
is
no
requirement
that
they
only
receive
like
a
certain
amount
of
services.
L
You
can't
hold
on
just.
Let
me
ask
this
quick
question
Megan,
what
happens
if
said
person
who's
experiencing
behavioral
health
issues,
screams,
let's
say
multiple
times
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
Often
what
happens
in
those
middle
of
the
night
segments?
What
I
really
like
about
Bluebird
is?
They
have
24
7,
you
know
they
have
24
7
help.
You
know
somebody
living
on
site
which
is
really
needed
for
some
of
these
folks.
So
would
you
say
that
that
those
folks
that
scream-
let's
say
they
have
trouble
in
the
middle
of
the
night?
L
G
Yeah
this
team
at
this
point
is
not
24
hours,
so
they
would
not
I
mean
that
would
end
up
being
I
would
guess
the
call
to
the
police,
but
yes,
you're,
right
in
the
in
the
stuff,
with
Bluebird
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
work
that's
coming
online
is
site-based
and
it's
specifically
for
it's
all
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
so
I
think
you
know
there's
pros
and
cons
to
that
as
well.
G
You
know,
when
you
put
everybody
with
similar
issues
in
one
site
that
some
things
tend
to
escalate,
but
we're
a
lot
of
the
housing
coming
online
is
going
to
be
that
way,
and
so
there
might
need
to
be
some
assessment,
and
there
typically
is
already
with
like
Lee
hill,
where,
when
we're
placing
people,
we
try
to
folks
that
might
be
high
needs
into
those
kind
of
settings.
M
G
I,
it
will
depend
on
the
end
with
the
team
I'm
sure
it
would
depend
on
the
need
right,
like
I
I
they're
not
going
to
be
in
the
residence
for
eight
hours
for
sure,
but
I
assume,
depending
on
the
need
it
maybe
an
hour
would
be
my
assessment
and
then
the
peer
support
is
in
addition
to
that
as
well
like
they're,
two
they're
programs
that
are
happening
together,
but
they're
separate
as
well.
So,
along
with
that
whole
retention
team.
That
I
just
mentioned,
there's
peer
support
added
to
that
as
well.
M
B
No
worries
thanks
for
that
answer:
Megan
Mark
and
then
Aaron.
N
In
deference
to
our
fearless
moderator,
I'll
I'm
gonna
do
this
as
fast
as
I.
Can
the
federal
plan
to
end
homelessness
new
any
of
the
pillars
of
that
plan
actually
provide
us
with
financial
resources.
H
So
that's
a
good
question
and
that
was
a
question
that
we
actually
asked
the
director
when
he
was
here
in
Denver
visiting
in
November.
He
has
said
that
the
Biden
Administration
has
committed
to
investing
and
we've
seen
some
of
that
investment
with
the
emergency,
housing
vouchers
and
Etc.
What
is
interesting
about
paying
attention
to
the
pillars
and
what
the
strategy
is
is
we
will
start
to
see
the
19
organizations
that
comprise
of
United
States
intergovernmental
agency
Council
on
homelessness?
They
will
prioritize
their
funding,
their
Federal
grant
funding
in
alignment
with
that
strategy.
N
Next
I
I
will
say
that
the
the
section
and
the
presentation
which
by
enlarge
I
thought
was
terrific,
but
the
the
section
on
solutions
for
high
utilizers
in
the
short
term
seemed
very,
very
vague
to
me.
It
did
not
give
me
a
sense
of
really
concrete
actions
and
in
combination
with
that,
what
percentage
of
the
high
utilizers
have
been
successfully
housed
and
treated.
G
The
operations
team
has
been
meeting
since
January.
You
want
to
say
so.
It's
only
been
up
to
like
three
or
four
months
and
most
of
these
folks,
the
for
folks
who've
been
doing
this.
Work
have
been
working
with
for
years,
so
it's
not
without
additional
resources
and
trying
to
fit
them
into
the
system
that,
as
it
stands,
has
been
challenging
so
I
believe,
there's
been
three
that
have
been
housed.
G
Two
of
those
were
in
line
to
be
housed
before
we
started
the
work,
but
we
we
have
supported
them
as
they've
been
housed
as
a
group.
So
as
far
as
treatment
I
do
think.
There's
a
night
two
or
three
we've
done
a
couple
that
we've
connected
connected
One
Tribe
in
their
recovery
work
we've
connected
a
couple.
One
with
Fort
Lions
went
down
Fort
line,
so
there
have
been
a
handful
that
so
far,
but
part
of
the
work
has
also
been
to
create
programs
specifically
for
these.
N
And
my
next
question:
actually
two
questions
are
for
Kurt.
That's
the
end
of
my
questions.
N
The
the
day,
shelter,
obviously
it's
reasonably
expensive-
are
there
going
to
be
any
metrics
by
which
we
judge
its
success
or
failure
as
I
assume,
the
five
million
dollars
is
a
one-time
payment
and
there
will
be
ongoing
expenses
as
well.
Are
we
going
to
have
any
metrics
by
which
we
judge
its
performance.
F
Yeah
I
would
say
the
metrics
are
going
to
be
related
to
the
programs
that
are
run
through
and
at
that
facility.
F
So,
for
example,
if
if
a
mental
health
partners
is
providing
Services
there,
there
would
be
metrics
around
that
there
will
certainly
be
metrics
related
to
people
that
exit
homelessness
or
have
you
know
other
services
there
will
be
metrics
related
to
you
know.
If,
if
dental
aid
you
know
is
providing
Services
there,
the
number
of
people
that
are
served
through
dental
aid,
so
it's
it's
really
based
on
the
programs
that
will
be
be
provided
at
the
facility.
F
N
And
my
last
very
last
question
is
also
for
you
Kurt.
We
had
an
update
on
homelessness
back
on
July
14
2020..
N
Can
you
tell
us
what
has
changed
since
then?
What
have
we
learned?
What
are
we
doing
better?
Where
do
we
do
worse?
What's
been
the
transformation
or
evolution
of
approaches
to
the
the
problem
of
homelessness?
In
your
view,.
F
So
I
think
so
I
would
add
on
to
that
things
that
have
continued,
that
have
been
successful.
F
F
I
think
one
of
the
improvements
that
I've
seen,
particularly
with
our
added
capacity
with
with
Megan
and
and
Lynette,
is
we're
able
to
have
more
coordination
with
the
the
the
organizations
that
are
doing
the
work
so
I.
Think
and,
and
part
of
that
is
the
initiative
that
Megan
just
spoke
about
with
the
High
utilizers
that
has
brought
the
organize
the
the
programs
together
in
a
more
intentional
way,
around
specific
individuals
and
I
think
that's
been
very
helpful
prior
to
that.
F
For
for
a
long
time
now,
we've
had
those
same
in
same
groups
working
together
around
getting
individuals
housed,
but
those
are
individuals
going
through
sort
of
the
ordinary
and
standard
process
and
and
again
some
of
the
things
that
have
changed.
I
I,
don't
think
we
can
underscore
what
Megan
mentioned
earlier.
F
The
the
the
vulnerable,
the
the
level
of
vulnerability
with
individuals
that
we're
seeing
that
are
experiencing
homelessness,
that
has
certainly
increased
in
our
community,
not
just
those
that
are
living
outside,
but
also
those
that
are
staying
at
shelter
and
so
that's
put
a
real
Challenge
on
I
think
all
of
our
service
providers.
F
And
lastly-
and
this
is
I'm
using
your
question-
get
to
get
a
message
out
there-
that
I
was
intended
to
get
out
there
and-
and
that
is
that
the
organizations
that
do
this
work
the
feet
forwards,
the
shelter
you
know
the
bridge
house
focused
re-entry
the
organizations
that
are
doing
this
work.
F
F
N
B
Thanks
Mark
Aaron,
then
Lauren,
then
Nicole.
K
Great
well
thanks
for
the
thorough
presentation
and
very
exciting
news
about
the
the
day,
Services
Center,
that
location,
this
great
news,
and
also
just
really
impressive,
to
see
how
many
different
initiatives
are
are
undergoing
and
how
much
progress
that
we're
making
on
things
like
the
amount
of
permanent
Supportive
Housing,
so
Kudos
and
huge
thanks
to
everybody
working
on
those
things.
So
a
couple
questions
one
was
I
think
as
we're
all
aware
that
one
of
the
areas
of
acute
need
you
mentioned
acute
need
in
the
presentation
right.
K
It's
one
of
the
challenges,
a
major
area
for
that
is,
substance,
abuse
and,
and
there's
a
as
I
understand
a
real
lack
of
treatment
options,
so
I'm
very
glad
that
we're
bringing
the
tribe
Recovery
Home
online
here
before
too
long
and
I
like
it's.
My
first
little
part
of
my
question
is
confirm
that
we
have
a
couple
more
coming
as
well
in
collaboration
with
the
county.
Maybe
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
K
If
I
have
that
right
and
then
what
else
do
we
have
on
the
horizon
to
help
with
this
issue?
You
know
it's.
It's
such
an
enormous
problem
for
people
experiencing
it
public
health
situation
right,
we've
seen
five
overdoses
in
the
last
couple
of
days
with
what
looks
like
some
problematic,
some
even
more
lethal
than
usual
fentanyl.
So
what
are
our
other
options
that
we're
bringing
to
the
table
with
this
very
difficult
problem?.
F
Heidi
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
respond
to
that
with
some
of
the
steps
that
the
county
is
taking.
You
mentioned
the
road
map,
but
I
think
that
that
sort
of
feeds
into
that
conversation-
yes.
H
It
does
thank
you
Kurt,
so
the
behavioral
roadmap
team
is
really
one
of
the
things
that
they've
done
is
they've
assessed
the
number
of
beds
that
we
have
available
and
where
the
gaps
are,
and
that's
going
to
be
all
part
of
that
plan
that
they're
the
draft
plan
that
they're
going
to
be
bringing
forward
in
June
to
really
look
at
how
we
expand
those
access
points
for
individuals
that
are
experiencing
substance,
misuse,
disorder
and
behavioral
health
challenges.
So
that
is
on
the
horizon.
K
Got
it
so
I
guess
the
current
work
is
on
putting
together
a
plan
TVD
with
the
interventions
would
look
like
okay
and
how
about
that
the
tribe
recovery
homes
did
I.
Have
that
right
that
we're
looking
at
bringing
more
online,
you.
H
Are
correct
so
the
bja,
the
Bureau
of
Justice
assistance,
grant
that
we
have
we've
committed
to
Bringing
on
three
in
the
three-year
time
frame.
We
do
recognize
that
we're
probably
going
to
need
more
than
three,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
prioritizing
and
constantly
looking
for
additional
funding
sources
outside
of
both
County
and
city
government
entities.
H
K
E
Finally,
two
just
add-
and
this
is
not
for
I-
don't
want
to
end
long
make
this
conversation
longer,
but
maybe
I'm
putting
myself
a
little
note
to
myself
to
bring
forward
a
little
update.
We
are
part
of
the
opioid
Regional
Council
and
there
are
some
strategies
there,
that's
led
by
Boulder
County,
but
thinking
about
what
other
programs
on
the
horizon
that
really
are
thinking
about
substance,
abuse
and
so
I'll
make
myself
a
mental
note
to
maybe
bring
forward
an
update
on
where
that
is
and
how
that's
going.
E
Some
of
those
are
going
to
be
longer
term
but
happy
to
share
that
as
well
in
the
future.
Excellent.
K
Thanks,
Daria
and
I
think
this
will
be
a
good
part
of
our
conversation
with
the
County
Commissioners
too,
to
get
a
little
bit
ahead
of
myself.
My
one
other
question
is
okay,
so
we
do
have
so
many
initiatives
underway
and
so
many
positive
things
going
on
and
I
think
we
just
said
over
100
additional
events
of
permanent
supporting
absent
coming
along
online
before
too
long,
but
with
a
a
walk
or
a
bike
ride
through
town.
K
We
know
that
the
the
resources
and
options
available
are
are
not
meeting
the
need
of
the
unsheltered
homelessness
in
our
community
right
now.
Right
and
that's
you
mentioned,
there's
potentially
not
adequate
resources
in
the
housing
area.
K
F
So
Aaron
I'll
I'll
take
a
a
crack
at
that,
so
so
I
I
think
you
brought
a
a
really
important
topic
up
and
that's
sort
of
the
the
scale
of
the
challenge
that
we
have
so
I
was
looking
at
some
of
the
numbers
this
afternoon.
F
So
I
looked
at
our
sheltered
data
from
a
year
ago,
up
until
last
night
and
just
short
of
60
000
bed
nights
have
been
provided
by
the
shelter
over
the
last
12
months.
Those
are
beds
that
have
been
filled
by
by
individuals
and
shelter.
If
we
add
on
the
lodge
and
the
source
to
other
shelters
in
our
community,
you
know
we're
over
over
70
000
individuals
that
have
been
sheltered
in
our
community
in
the
last
12
months.
F
If
we
look
at
the
coordinated
entry
data
from
when
we
started
about
five
years
ago,
it's
basically
seven
thousand
Unique
Individuals
have
gone
through
coordinated
entry,
and
we
know
about
20-year.
We
we
don't
know
we
we
think
about
20
or
25
percent
of
individuals,
don't
go
through
coordinated
entry
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community.
F
So
that's
roughly
ten
thousand
nine
to
ten
thousand
individuals
that
have
experienced
homelessness
in
our
community
in
the
last
five
years
in
the
city
of
Boulder
rental
housing,
our
affordable
rental
housing
stock,
we've
got
about
3,
500
units
of
affordable
housing.
F
It's
about
4
500.
If
you
include
the
the
ownership
units.
So
if
we
took
all
of
our
housing
and
dedicated
it
towards
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community,
we
would
only
have
half
the
housing
that
we
need.
I,
don't
think
that
any
City
can
actually
solve
the
homelessness
challenge
and
sorry,
let
me
turn
my
phone
off
here
and
the
it's
and
that's
why
we,
this
National
strategy
is
so
important.
Regional
strategies
are
so
important
and
I
think
that's
the
the
frustration
that
we
have.
F
That's
the
frustration
that
the
community
has
has
that,
despite
the
success
of
getting
individuals
out
of
homelessness,
we
still
we
still
see
these
challenges
and
and
the
community
doesn't
see
the
success
that
we
have
because
once
someone's
house,
you
don't
see
that,
and
so
my
answer
is
is
partly
going
to
be.
We
don't
we
don't
have
the
resources
for
all
for
all
those
individuals
that
are
that
are
in
Boulder
with
experiencing
homelessness
and
that
we
need
to.
F
Lastly,
I'll
say
we
have
a
diversion
program
that
is
going
a
little
bit
better
than
it
was
last
year
and
that's
really
connecting
people
with
their
networks
in
the
community
that
they
came
from.
Sometimes
that's
the
local
community.
Sometimes
it's
someplace
else
and
that's
the
area
where
I
think
from
a
programmatic
standpoint
that
needs
to
significantly
grow
and
then,
lastly,
there's
there's
there's
holes
in
our
in
our
systems.
F
There's
areas
where
we
don't
have
Solutions
now,
particularly,
as
you
said,
around
substance
use
and
that's
something
that
we
as
a
state
and
County
in
in
a
region,
really
need
to
tackle.
K
Thanks
thanks
for
that,
Kurt
I
appreciate
that
the
scope
of
the
need
is
so
great
right
that
that
we
don't
have
all
the
resources
as
we
want
Community
to
to
resolve
it.
So
that's
it
for
my
questions.
I
know
you
also.
You
had
a
couple
questions
for
us.
I'll
just
hop
in
with
my
my
one
comment
in
terms
of,
like
discounts,
will
support
the
direction
of
HSBC,
focusing
on
the
housing
and
supportive
services,
and
I
mean
the
short
answer.
K
Is
yes
and
then
a
little
bit
more
is
that
I
do
feel
like
we
need
additional
investment
in
terms
of
options
for
people
who
are
who
are
still
out
on
the
streets
that
we
don't
have
housing
space
for
so
short
to
medium
term.
You
know:
options
for
getting
people
out
of
the
cold
and
into
some
kind
of
Sheltering
option,
or
some
kind
of
you
know
whether
it's
pallet
shelter
or
safe
outdoor
space,
or
something
like
that.
So
we've
talked
about
that
at
our
I.
K
Think
our
the
last
time
we
were
discussing
some
of
these
issues
that
the
Council
on
our
Retreat,
so
I
just
want
to
reiterate
the
need
that
I
see
that
for
some
additional
options
for
those
folks
who
are
still
stuck
out
on
the
streets
when
we
don't
have
programs
the
more
permanent
programs
available
for
them.
B
All
right
thanks,
Aaron
Lauren,
then
Nicole.
P
Thank
you
Matt,
and
thank
you
everyone
for
that.
Great
presentation.
I
was
particularly
excited
to
hear
that
we
have
a
perfect
score
on
the
by
name
list
and
actually
well
I
think
that's
a
really
powerful
tool
to
track
progress
and
get
more
data
on
sort
of
the
gaps
in
the
system,
and
most
of
my
questions
are
going
to
focus
around
that.
P
H
So
the
reason
that
we're
in
the
what
they
call
the
final
mile
is
because
our
by
name
list
has
been
decreasing.
This
is
for
veterans
specifically,
as
of
yesterday.
We
have
21
and
that
number
is
going
to
drop
significantly
because
the
vast
majority
of
those
have
been
managed
to
housing
resources
and
it's
just
making
sure
that
they
get
to
lease
up.
H
So
as
long
as
we
continue
to
decrease
our
by
name
list,
then
that's
what
kind
of
tips
us
over
into
the
final
mile-
and
they
put
you
in
the
final
mile
cohort
when
you're
about
six
months
out
of
hitting
that
three
month
of
that
less
than
three
marker
and
that's.
Why
we're
in
the
cohort.
P
Okay,
the
Denver
metro
area
is
also
trying
to
or
sort
of
the
Coalition
of
cities
that
are
doing
this
in
our
area
are
also
trying
to
address
single
family.
Sorry,
single,
adult
homelessness
is
that
correct
that.
H
Is
correct
so
the
way
that
the
built
for
zero
focuses
on
is
they
pick
a
sub
population
and
once
you
hit
functional
zero,
then
you
move
to
the
next.
So
once
we
hit
functional
zero
with
veterans,
then
we
will
move
into
single
adults
since
we've
already
been
certified
by
Community
Solutions.
As
with
the
quality
data
and
the
perfect
scorecard.
P
Okay,
so
then
will
we
go
through
those
processes
again
like
a
new
scorecard,
that's
person,
no
okay,
we'll.
P
H
I
will
have
to
pull
that
up.
Let
me
just
Megan:
do
you
have
it
by
chance
readily
it.
G
P
I
appreciate
the
clarification
on
that.
I
also
thought
it
was
interesting
that
they
keep
track
of
how
many
cases
become
inactive
in
a
month.
H
We
actually
don't
move
people
into
an
active
until
we've
exhausted
every
option
and
that's
why
we're
pausing
before
we
integrate
it
into
our
data
modeling,
because
Outreach
data
is
not
in
Connect
yet
so
when
we
spend
each
time
we
do
case
conferencing,
we
go
through
the
by
name
list.
Ask
when
the
last
time
somebody
had
a
touch
point.
We
check
all
data
systems
across
the
board
and
then
make
sure
that
we
touch
base
with
every
Outreach
worker,
every
Veteran
Affairs
officer.
H
We
also
work
with
our
veteran
service
officers,
so
we
really
want
to
make
sure
before
we
move
somebody
into
inactive,
that
they
are
truly
inactive
and
that's
why
we
do
that
over
that
90-day
period,
instead
of
just
assuming
that
they
haven't
they've,
they
have
just
disappeared
and
we
don't
we're
not
reaching
out.
Does
that
make
sense.
P
B
Thanks
Lauren
is
that
it
awesome
Nicole,
then
Bob
and
just
for
clarity,
we're
kind
of
getting
closer
to
our
time,
but
I
know
Nicole
hasn't
gone
yet
Bob
I
know
you
got
a
question.
I
reserve
once
what
is
just
as
a
check,
we're
kind
of
trying
to
move
along
a
little
bit
still
so
go
forward.
Nicole
thanks.
D
We're
talking
about
you
know,
you
know
the
new
landlords
we
have
that
have
leased
folks
with
challenging
backgrounds
in
the
past
year.
How
many
landlords
have
stopped
leasing
to
folks
with
challenging
backgrounds
in
the
past
year,
like
has
the
total
number
of
landlords
who
will
lease
to
folks
what
challenging
backgrounds
stay
the
same
or
changed
over
time
like?
Is
it
an
inflow
outflow?
How
does
that
balance
out.
H
So
we
don't
know
if
landlords
have
disengaged
unless
someone
returns
to
homelessness
or
we
can't
find
them
a
new
lease
up.
But
we
do
have
because
of
the
landlord
recruiter
position,
more
landlords
in
our
portfolio
that
are
willing
to
lease
to
people
with
challenging
backgrounds
than
we
had
this
time
last
year
and
the
time
before.
D
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
other
question
that
I
had
was
actually
Heidi.
I.
Think
it's
probably
a
question
for
you.
It's
around
HSBC,
and
you
know
these
seven
regions
or
Seven
Counties
in
the
region
right
that
they
a
lot
most
of
them.
Six
out
of
seven
combine
their
data
and
the
share
data,
and
everything
like
that,
and
my
understanding
is
that
HSBC
is
working
on
a
different
data
system.
D
So
we
don't
we're
not
really
able
to
track
people
as
they
move
around
the
region
and
at
least
in
my
experience
talking
with
folks,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
moving
around
the
region
pretty
frequently
so
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
why
why
it
is
that
there's
a
different
mechanism
for
tracking
folks
here
in
Boulder
County
and
you
know,
and
then
I
think
a
sub
part
of
that
question
is:
why
is
that
data
set
not
available
to
everybody
who's
working
on
homelessness
here
in
Boulder,
County.
H
So
we
actually
do
enter
data
into
hmis,
so
we
do
both
and
the
reason
that
the
connect
system
was
designed
was
the
capacity
for
hmis
five
years
ago
was
not
there
and
the
robust
of
the
data
that
we
needed
it
just
could
not
be
integrated.
That
said,
we
still
collect
more
robust
data
than
anybody
else
in
the
metro
area,
and
what
we
are
looking
at
is
doing
so
connect.
It
went
from
Boulder
like
BCC,
which
we've
all
heard,
that
acronym
to
now
just
connect,
and
they
just
finished
this
huge
data
migration.
H
Now
that
they're
buttoning
that
up,
we
can
do
data
enhancements.
We
can
integrate
the
Outreach
data
into
to
get
to
that
inactive
component,
and
then
we
can
also
add
more
service
providers
that
have
been
waiting.
I've
been
I,
have
a
bunch
of
use
cases
that
I've
been
waiting
to
integrate,
they're
going
to
start
moving
into
that.
So
that's
going
to
start
being
integrated
and
then
the
big
project
that
we
have
and
I'm
actually
meeting
with
our
it
team
later
on
this
month,
is
an
interface
between
hmis
and
connect.
H
D
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
some
of
the
folks
who
are
working
in
homelessness
here
in
Boulder
will
be
able
to
have
access
to
the
data
and
there'll
be
some
data
sharing
going
on
there,
because
that
kind
of
ties
into
just
one
of
my
other
questions.
You
know
we
we
know
in
Boulder
County.
D
The
report
had
some
data
on
folks
kind
of
coming
to
Boulder,
County
or
who,
who
are
reporting
in
and
checking
in
for
services
with
less
than
six
months
that
they've
been
living
here,
but
because
there's
so
much
movement
around
the
region,
right
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
hard
thing
to
know
right.
Are
they
coming
from
Denver?
Are
they
coming
from
New,
York,
right
and
I?
Think
mostly
it's.
It's
probably
folks
around
the
region
right
but
it'll
be
really
nice
to
have
some
of
that
information.
H
The
most
frequent
report
that
we
have
of
folks
that
are
new
to
the
community
actually
is
from
Denver,
and
those
are
also
the
folks
that
attrition
out
most
frequently
so
so
yeah
we're
excited
to
do
the
enhancements
that
we've
been
waiting
on
for
the
last
18
months,
and
this
interface
with
hmis
has
been
three
years
in
the
making
and
now
that
we're
in
the
place,
and
they
are
too
it's
pretty
exciting.
Q
Operating
in
homelessness
strategy,
senior
manager
just
to
support
Heidi
in
this
conversation,
you
know
it
is
a
value.
Add
that
we
have
this
extra
database.
We
we
are
it's
actually
seven
out
of
Seven
Counties
in
the
region
are
using
it.
We
are
one
of
the
seven
and
I
think
it's
really
another
piece
to
understand
and
and
I
know,
unical
will
get
this
very
easily.
Q
Is
that
the
reason
it
takes
so
long
for
data
sharing
within
hmis
and
amongst
Partners
there's
a
whole
host
of
privacy
and
confidentiality
pieces
that
have
to
really
be
ironed
out
and
specifically,
when
you
start
getting
into
areas
of
treatment
and
what
that
person's
disability
is,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
delays
and
challenges
that
the
region
is
facing.
D
Well
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
really
helpful
and
then
my
last
question
is
just
around
the
Belgian
home
program
are
all
of
the
housing
providers
going
to
be
participating
in
the
building
home
program,
including
the
clinical
team,
so,
for
example,
Mental
Health
Partners.
You
know
they're
they're,
placing
a
lot
of
people
into
homes
who
have
some
challenges
and
and
are
their
clients
going
to
be
part
of
the
building
home
program
too.
G
D
Cool,
thank
you.
Emma
I
do
have
some
comments,
but
I'll
just
save
until
the
end
and
we
can
move
along
now.
J
Yeah
thanks
man,
I
I,
just
wanted
to
Nicole's
questions
and
Aaron's
questions
kind
of
prompted
a
couple
of
math
questions
on
my
head,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
was
following
Kurt,
especially
when
he
was
answering
Aaron,
so
I
think
I
heard
you
say
Kurt
that
I
know
this
is
kind
of
wide
and
we
have
to
be
careful
not
to
confuse
the
county
in
the
in
the
city.
J
But
your
estimate
was
about
about
10
000,
Unique
Individuals,
we're
homeless
in
Boulder
County
over
the
last
five
years,
as
both
coordinated
entry
plus
your
kind
of
your
Roundup
for
for
those
that
were
outside
of
coordinated
entries
that
do
I
get
hear
that
correct.
Ten
thousand
over
the
last
five
years,
County
Wide.
F
That's
that's
correct.
Yes,
so.
J
That
would
seem
to
come
to
about
an
average
about
two
thousand
a
year,
10
000,
divided
by
five,
but
our
point
in
time:
survey
pretty
in
the
county
pretty
consistently
shows
about
600
and
I.
Think
we
all
recognize
that
point
in
time.
Survey
undoubtedly
misses
a
lot
of
people,
but
but
the
ratio
of
two
six
hundred
to
two
thousand
would
be
pretty
significant
about
what
what
one-third.
J
So
it
would
seem
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
Kurt
that
there's
a
fair
number
of
people
that
are
coming
and
going
from
the
county,
and
this
is
kind
of
maybe
the
point
that
that
Nicole
and
Aaron
were
both
making.
Is
that
a
fair
assumption?
You
know
whether
it's
three
to
one
or
two
to
one,
but
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
only
spending
a
short
period
of
time
here
in
our
County
and
then
moving
on.
Is
that
right.
E
F
Thank
you
that
is
correct,
Bob
and
Vicki
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
that
some
of
those
individuals
are
families
as
well.
F
Q
I'm
not
going
to
correct
you,
you
are
absolutely
correct
families
that
number
fluctuates
year
to
year,
but
on
average,
about
100
to
200
of
those
individuals
are
participants
in
households
that
are
families,
and
then
we
average
on
the
point
in
time
count
somewhere
between
50
and
100
and
50.
It
kind
of
depends
on
the
year
and
the
weather
for
unsheltered
homelessness
and
then
about
75
percent
of
the
numbers.
Count
of
people
counted
in
the
point
in
time.
Q
Count
can
be
attributed
to
the
city
of
Boulder,
and
then
you
know,
then
we
go
and
add
the
20
back
up
over
it.
J
J
Individuals
in
that
a
similar
number
leave
the
city
this
again
I'm
now
down
to
City
level,
so
that's
4
times
365
or
about
1400
new
unhoused
people
in
and
out
per
year
in
Boulder.
Is
that
still
your
estimate
from
two
years
ago?
Is
that
still
roughly
accurate.
F
F
If
I
can
use
that
word
over
the
last
few
years
and
and
over
the
last
few
months,
they've
actually
gone
up.
Okay,.
J
That's
fine,
it's
a
final
question
on
that
line
of
questions.
So,
if
we're,
if
we're
having
1400
new
unhoused
people
come
into
Boulder
per
year,
which
we
come
pretty
consistent
with
the
county
numbers,
you
were
quoting
in
1400
leaving
I
assume,
that's
not
the
cohort
that
1400
people
are
kind
of
coming
in
spending
a
few
weeks
or
a
few.
Maybe
a
couple
months
here
and
then
heading
back
out,
I
assume!
That's
not
the
cohort
that
you're
trying
to
provide
housing
to.
Is
that
a
fair
assumption.
F
Well,
any
anyone
who
comes
through
coordinated
entry,
they're
all
going
to
be
provided
the
same
support
and
encouragement
for
services.
F
What
we
don't
control
is
is
if
they
do
leave
or
how
they
engage
in
Services,
but
you're
I
think
what
you're
getting
at
is
probably
correct.
I
mean
the
the
individuals
that
are
most
successful
in
getting
into
housing
are
the
ones
that
stay
connected
with
Services.
B
All
right:
well,
you
only
asked
one
to
start,
so
you
had
a
couple
in
the
bank:
well
I'm,
just
gonna
just
for
the
sake
of
timing,
I've
got
others,
but
but
I'm
gonna
just
ask
one
question
and
we
try
to
keep
moving
I
think
we're
a
little
behind
on
time
right
now,
which
is
all
right.
It's
a
media
subject
my
question
centers
around
Slide
Five
and
it
was
sort
of
that
bubble.
B
B
Why
and
or
or
what
are
the
reasons
why
our
other
sister
cities
either
aren't
a
partner
partner
or
or
aren't
a
stakeholder
or
or
part
of
that
support
network
and
so
I'm
wondering
I,
don't
know
if
that's
a
question
for
Heidi
or
Kurt,
but
that
just
seemed
to
really
it
just
sort
of
stuck
out
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
anyone
can
sort
of
answer
that.
F
Well,
I'll
give
a
little
bit
of
input
to
that.
So
the
one,
the
one
thing
that
I'll
state
is
that
both
long,
the
city
of
Longmont
and
the
city
of
Boulder
are
the
only
two
municipalities
in
the
county
that
have
sort
of
a
housing
and
Human
Services
Department
the
other
cities.
They
don't
have
staff
that
work
on
homelessness
and
that's
where
you
know
it
gets
into
the
sort
of
the
structure
of
you
know.
Boulder
County
represents
the
work
of
smaller
cities
and
municipalities
and
provides
a
more
county-wide
support.
F
F
B
Thanks
Kurt
I
I,
appreciate
that
analysis.
It
and,
if
you
know,
if
the
county
is
sort
of
by
proxy,
you
know
stepping
in
to
represent
those
other
communities
that
don't
have
their
own
housing
and
Human
Services
I
guess.
My
question
is:
how
is
the
county
leveraging
those
relationships
or
that
responsibility
to
spread
those
Solutions
more
broadly
around
the
county
versus
maybe
that
this
acute
concentration
in
Boulder
and
then
thus
in
Longmont,.
H
So
Kurt's
correct,
it
is
a
capacity
issue
and
we
do
provide
those
resources
in
different
mechanisms
like
our
county-wide
Co
response
and
engaging
in
those
Services
accordingly
and
the
data.
The
numbers
from
CE
of
those
that
are
coming
from
other
municipalities
is
very
small
and
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
flag
that
so
I
think
it's
like
less
than
maybe
two
percent
combined
across
the
entire
County
of
those
that
are
saying
that
they're
coming
from
these
other
communities,
it's
predominantly
Longmont
and
Boulder.
B
I
I
appreciate
that
I,
just
as
a
follow-up,
I
I
recall,
we
were
sort
of
just
hearing
that
those
that
are
coming
in
here
there's
a
large
continuous
that
are
coming
from
Denver
to
to
Boulder
as
well
is
that
is
that
correct,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
not
a
spider
web,
if
they're
funneling
in
here
they
we
can
spread
those
resources
and
spread
the
impacts
and
and
create
more
capacity
to
perhaps
deal
with
them
geographically,
and
so
that's
just
sort
of
where
I'm
that's
my
question.
B
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
great
answer
to
that,
but
that's
what
what
a
concern
I
have
is.
How
do
we
spread
the
solutions
out
accordingly,.
F
B
Thank
you
for
that
and
I
think
unless
I
don't
think,
there's
any
more
questions:
I
Just
Want
to
Thank,
You
Heidi
for
joining
us
and
providing
a
lot
of
great
feedback
and
and
answers
to
our
to
our
questions
and
really
thank
you
for
joining
us.
B
Maybe
you're
joining
us
for
the
other
two
as
well,
but
but
if
you're
not
and
you're
exiting
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
you
being
with
us,
and
so
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
if
you're
with
us,
then
you'll
get
you'll
get
another
round
of
applause
and
accolades
in
due
time
here
this
evening.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us.
Thank.
B
Thank
you
so
much
Heidi
take
care
all
right.
Nuria
I'll
turn
it
back
to
to
you
to
move
us
on
to
our
next
top
terrific.
E
Into
our
Sam's
teams
on
Deck,
I
will
say
that
we
will
and
also
this
one
as
we're
pressed
for
time.
We
will
try
not
to
shortchange
anyone
but
try
to
get
through
to
allow
for
questions
as
we
can
so
Elizabeth.
Take
it
away.
O
Thank
you
so
much
Maria
and
good
evening
Council.
My
name
is
Elizabeth
Crow
and
I
serve
as
the
housing
and
Human
Services
director,
sorry,
housing
and
Human
Services
Department,
not
taking
Kurt's
job
deputy
director.
O
O
We're
really
pleased
this
evening
as
well
to
have
co-presenters
Julie
van
Damelin
who's,
the
executive
director
of
the
emergency
family
assistance
association
or
effa
and
Whitney
Wilcox,
with
a
family
resource
network
manager
for
Boulder
County,
HHS
they'll
both
come
on
when
it's
when
it's
their
time,
and
we
also
have
here
kind
of
in
the
wings
Gwen
Mossman
who's,
the
Supportive
Housing
unit
manager
for
bchhhs
and
Emma
Lyman
The
mckinney-vento
Specialist
at
Boulder,
Valley,
School
District,
who
may
be
available
to
join
answer
questions
as
necessary
and
while
I
mentioned
McKinney
vento
for
anyone
who's
watching
this
evening,
who's
not
familiar
with
that
term.
O
Mckinney
vento
homelessness,
assistance,
Act
is
a
federal
policy
that
provides
Supportive
Services
for
children
experiencing
homelessness,
and
we
will
be
referencing
McKinney
vento
several
times
this
evening,
so
Emily.
Let
me
just
make
sure
and
check
that
everything's
good
with
the
PowerPoint
great.
Thank
you.
O
So
we
can
jump
to
the
next
slide
overview
of
what
we'll
be
sharing
this
evening.
We're
going
to
obviously
be
talking
about
family
homelessness
in
in
Boulder
the
ways
in
which
it's
different.
Then
the
presentation
you
just
heard
for
people
who
are
single
adults
experiencing
homelessness
where
and
how
we
collaborate
with
our
partners,
including
non-profit
agencies
like
AFA,
Boulder
County.
O
So
with
the
next
slide,
I'm
going
to
ask
Julie
vandamalin
to
pop
in
and
oh
sorry,
questions
for
Council
I'm.
Looking
at
the
my
my
screen
differently,
questions
for
Council
this
evening,
similar
to
those
for
adult
family
single
homelessness,
Are
there
specific
issues
regarding
family
homelessness
that
Council
would
like
staff
to
emphasize
or
prioritize
and
does
council
have
any
input
on
the
city
and
county
response
to
family
homelessness.
C
Thanks
Elizabeth,
first
to
start
with
what
causes
family
homelessness
in
the
family
homes
this
world,
the
biggest
driver.
C
Yeah
I'm
Julie,
Van,
Damme,
sorry
I'm,
the
executive
director
at
Alpha,
so
one
of
the
drivers
of
family
homelessness,
the
biggest
cause
are
economic
factors.
C
This
includes
just
basically
being
able
to
make
ends
meet
and
it
can
come
about
from
rising
housing
costs.
Rising
costs
of
other
basic
needs
economic
shocks
to
the
family,
which
could
be
loss
of
a
job
cutting
hours,
a
medical
bill.
C
The
other
significant
cause
about
a
quarter
of
the
time
is
changes
in
family
structure.
This
is
largely
domestic
violence,
but
it's
also
separation,
divorce
or
death
of
a
family
member.
C
The
what
we
see
are
also
disproportionate
impacts
on
populations
that,
where
we
see
systemic
disparities,
I'll
give
you
one
figure
from
at
the
housing
about
75
percent
of
the
families
living
in
our
temporary
housing
are
by
by
popular
latinx
families.
It's
about
evenly
split
between
single
parent
households
and
dual
parent
households.
C
You've
just
heard
a
long
conversation
about
individual
homelessness,
adult
individual
homelessness,
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
Dynamics
of
family
hope.
This
is
there
that
are
kind
of
distinct
from
or
at
least
slightly
different,
from
the
individual
homelessness.
World.
First,
family
homelessness
tend
to
be
episodic
and
not
chronic.
We
talk
about
episodes
of
Family
homelessness.
C
This
is
largely
homegrown.
These
are
Far
and
Away
people
that
have
already
been
living
in
our
community.
They
have
Roots
here,
jobs
here
had
jobs
here
have
children
here,
the
vast
majority
of
homeless
families
work
often
at
a
couple
jobs.
C
C
There
are
fewer
emergency
Sheltering,
not
only
options,
but
it's
a
different
situation.
The
was
it
like
group.
Shelters
are
not
great
environments
for
children,
so
we
don't
have
a
drop-in
day,
shelter
or
anything
for
families
with
with
children.
We
tend
to
want
to
get
them
in
directly
and
quickly,
into
housing
or
into
a
hotel.
C
One
of
the
biggest
differences
is
you
just:
don't
see
homeless
families
with
children,
so
it's
less
visible,
they're
less,
oh
in
the
open
air
and
more
doubled
up
couch
surfing
in
temporary
situations,
and
so
there's
less
public
awareness
about
this
issue.
O
Okay,
don't
jump
back
to
me
for
this
slide,
which
is
in
the
memo,
and
we
have
referenced
it
as
well
in
some
of
our
guaranteed
income
pilot
project
discussions,
it's
from
the
Colorado
Center
for
Law
and
policies,
self-sufficiency,
standard
report
using
updated
numbers,
it
was
released
in
2022
November,
and
it
shows
why
so
many
families
are
at
risk
in
the
city
of
Boulder
and
throughout
the
county,
because
what
it
takes
really
for
a
family
of
three
comprised
as
you
see
on
the
slide,
is
almost
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
month
just
to
meet
basic
needs.
O
So
when
we
talk
about
self-sustain
self-sufficiency,
that's
not
going
out
for
pizza
ice
cream
movies,
that
is
just
meeting
basic
expenses
and
some
of
the
bars
you
see
beyond
the
first
one
on
the
the
left,
which
is
that
self-sufficiency
standard
for
one
adult
one
preschool
or
one
school
age
child.
Is
that
the
benefits
that
this
that
this
family
might
have
access
to?
O
Even
that
bar
kind
of
second
from
the
right,
the
the
third
from
the
right,
rather
the
wages
for
a
full-time
minimum
wage
job,
come
nowhere
near
what
a
family
really
does
need
to
survive,
if
not
Thrive
here,
and
so
when
we
talk
about,
what's
really
required
for
families
to
stay
housed
to
be
stably
housed.
O
This
graphic
really
helps
remind
us
that
we're
where
the
Gap
is
for
families
that
are
on
the
very
very
low
income
rung,
but
even
for
those,
as
Julie
said,
who
are
working,
there's
a
pretty
sizable
gap
between
what
those
wages
are,
which
can
also
be
right
around
the
cliff
for
eligibility
for
assistance
programs,
and
then
what
that
need
is.
So
that's
just
some
of
the
reasons
why,
despite
as
you'll
hear
many
of
the
interventions
that
we're
making
through
Direct
Services
and
Investments,
we're
still
really
experiencing
a
expanding
problem.
C
So
what
are
the
impacts
of
these
episodes
of
homelessness
on
families
and
children?
And
this
is
really
the
why
we
care
about
this
so
much.
The
impacts
on
the
families
are
everything
from
toxic
stress,
anxiety,
instability,
but
on
children
we
see
specific
impacts
on
physical
health,
academic
achievement,
Mental,
Health,
Developmental
delays.
This
is
true
across
the
country,
it's
true
in
the
state
of
Colorado
and
it's
true
in
our
community,
the
in
Colorado.
C
You
see
significant
differences
in,
for
example,
scores
on
math
and
English
for
children
that
are
registered
at
mckinney-bento
program
in
the
school
systems
as
being
going
through
homelessness
in
our
community.
It's
very
highly
correlated
being
out
of
grade
behavioral
issues,
academic
performance,
with
going
through
episodes
of
Family
homelessness.
C
It's
also
leaves
its
traces
and
has
a
long-term
impact.
Studies
show
that
over
the
lifetime,
kids
that
have
gone
through
experiences
of
homelessness
and
have
these
academic
health
and
other
issues
end
up
living
shorter,
having
less
income
over
their
lifetime
and,
in
fact,
a
greater
propensity
to
be
homeless
as
adults.
C
So
we
set
the
stage
for
long-term
effects
of
our
in
our
community.
F
C
Does
this
mean
sorry?
Is
this
me
doing
this?
One?
Oh
sorry
didn't
know
so
I
said:
there's
the
family
illnesses
is
a
fairly
large
issue.
It's
just
not
as
well
understood.
There's
almost
200
000
people
will
experience
homelessness
as
part
of
a
family
nationally
in
Colorado
in
2022,
the
estimate
was
over
2
000
people
and
families
with
children
experiencing
homelessness.
I
can't
remember
if
this
is
from
the
point
in
time.
I
just
want
to
make
a
little
clarification.
C
The
point
in
time
takes
one
night
and
it
tends
to
be
ex
not
very
good.
At
picking
up
the
non-family
homelessness
numbers,
we
tend
to
use
the
mckinney-vento
numbers
which
are
where
they're
registered
as
homeless
through
the
school
districts,
and
that
includes
people
Couchsurfing
and
doubled
up
which
are
not
included
in
the
point
in
time
which
are
about
80
percent
of
the
homeless
families
with
children.
So
some
of
these
numbers
are
a
little
bit
hard
to
compare,
depending
on
the
source.
C
This
one
I
know
well
are
in
2022.
We
had
about
over
400
families
go
through
our
keep.
Families
housed
eviction
prevention
program
through
rental
assistance
that
we
work
on
with
the
city
and
there
were
200
survivors
of
domestic
violence.
C
E-Wrap
is
the
Federal
rental
assistance
dollars,
I,
don't
know
how
you're
up
you
are
in
the
acronyms
of
these
this
world,
but
the
federal
rental
assistance
dollars
that
were
from
the
coveted
relief
that
came
to
Boulder
County
is
about
70
million
dollars,
I
think
in
rental
assistance
that
has
been
instrumental
in
2021
and
2022
serving
882
households
and
in
particular
they
could.
C
They
could
fund
larger
beers
and
then
the
the
city's
Empress
program
of
eviction
prevention
had
served
over
a
thousand
clients
and
that's
families
and
individuals
since
beginning
of
2021.
So
that's
so
20
yeah
2021..
So
those
are
some
of
the
the
numbers
yeah.
C
Next,
here's
the
is
this
me
too:
hey
I'll,
just
do
it.
Okay,
these
are
the
Kenny
vento
numbers,
and
this
is
what
they
wanted
to
show
up
until
covid.
We
were
steadily
chipping
away
at
families,
homelessness
in
our
community.
We
had
a
trend
line
going
lightly
down,
and
a
lot
of
this
was
some
from
the
expansion
of
rental
assistance,
like
key
family's
house
that
was
preventing
homelessness
of
families
with
children.
C
2021
is
kind
of
a
year
of
being
of
the
moratorium
on
addictions
Etc
so
that
dropped
that
year,
the
large
increase
in
2022
picks
up
the
Marshall
fire
families
that
were
displaced
by
the
Marshall
fire,
but,
what's
really
concerning
is
the
2023
today
that
number
of
749
children
in
the
Boulder
Valley
School
District
that
have
experienced
homelessness.
Thus
far
this
this
Academic
Year
includes
almost
no
kids
from
the
Marshall
fire,
so
we're
seeing
just
a
huge
increase
in
family
homelessness.
This
year,
largely
inflation
driven.
C
So
what
does
the
system
look
like
the
first
and
foremost
to
try
and
prevent?
Not
only
because
it's
the
the
best
in
solution
in
terms
of
economic
efficiency,
it's
less
expensive
to
keep
someone
in
their
house
than
the
house
than
to
go
through
the
whole
eviction
and
rehousing
process.
C
It
also
avoids
all
those
impacts
on
children
that
I
mentioned,
and
we
have
a
really
robust
set
of
short-term
rental
assistance
from
the
city
from
effa's
resources
from
the
county
and
others
that
has
been
helped
up
until
this
year
had
been
good
at
kind
of
making
significant
inroads
in
preventing
homelessness
among
families
with
kids.
So
once
a
family
of
children
become
homeless,
what
what
services
do
they
have
in
our
community?
In
Boulder
we
use
motel
and
hotel
vouchers
for
the
short-term,
critical
stays
of
unhoused
families
and
there's
also
the
temporary
shelters.
C
This
is
particularly
a
domestic
violence,
shelter.
We
also
have
temporary
housing
with
Supportive
Services
effa
is
the
main
provider
of
rooftops.
If
you
will,
including
our
short-term
housing
and
our
transitional,
which
is
which
is
three
months-
transitional,
which
is
two
years
there's
also
a
mother
house
for
pregnant
women.
Again,
the
domestic
violence
shelters
and
some
rapid
rehousing
rental
assistance
funded
by
the
county
and
by
other
other
sources.
C
F
R
Thank
you
Julie
good
evening
Council.
My
name
is
Whitney
Wilcox
and
I'm,
the
Family
Resource
Network
manager,
with
Boulder
County,
Housing
and
Human
Services
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
our
collaborative
work,
to
support
families
experiencing
housing
and
stability
through
the
Family
Resource
Network
and
the
family
homelessness
subcommittee.
R
The
Family
Resource
Network
is
a
county-wide
governance
structure
that
brings
together
more
than
30
non-profit
school
and
government
agency
partners
that
are
working
across
our
local
safety
nets,
some
of
whom
are
listed
here.
Our
purpose
in
collaborating
is
to
leverage
our
Collective
strengths
and
resources
to
create
better
outcomes
for
Children
and
Families,
providing
them
with
access
to
safe
and
stable
housing,
Health
Care
education
and
other
support
services
that
they
need
by
working
collaboratively.
R
So
we
recognize
that
solving
complex
issues
like
family
homelessness
requires
a
collaborative
effort
from
many
different
groups
and
so
in
2018,
with
leadership
from
effa.
The
Family
Resource
Network
created
the
family
homelessness
subcommittee,
which
brings
together
about
a
dozen
non-profit
school
and
government
government
partners
that
are
working
on
preventing
and
responding
to
family
homelessness.
R
R
So
through
the
Family
Resource
Network,
we
have
been
working
on
developing
process
flow
maps
to
help
connect
staff
and
community
members
to
services,
and
we
just
published
housing
navigation
maps
for
each
region
of
the
county,
including
Boulder,
that
provides
a
clear,
visual
Pathway
to
organizations
that
may
be
able
to
help
with
shelter
and
rental
assistance.
R
This
is
a
snapshot
of
the
Family
Resource
Network's
current
work
plan
and
outlines
just
one
of
our
strategies
that
we're
working
on
to
keep
families
housed.
So
as
you've
heard-
and
you
all
know,
individual
non-profits
and
city
and
county
organizations
are
reporting
unprecedented
demand
for
rental
assistance.
At
a
time
when
pandemic
era,
funding
is
coming
to
an
end,
including
pandemic
funded
programs
that
provided
really
significant
funds
to
support
rental
assistance.
R
So,
to
help
address
this,
we
are
bringing
together
Partners,
including
the
city
of
Boulder
and
atha,
to
jointly
monitor
the
demand
for
and
amount
of
short-term
rental
assistance
funds
available
through
a
shared
dashboard
that
will
aggregate
all
that
information
by
providing
a
comprehensive
view
of
demand
and
availability
across
our
partners.
The
dashboard
will
be
able
to
help
organizations
to
make
informed
decisions
about
where
to
allocate
resources
and
identify
what
resources
are
going
to
be
necessary
to
meet
the
demand,
ultimately
helping
our
community
to
increase
housing
security
for
these
vulnerable
households.
O
Good
all
right,
not
the
only
person
struggling
was
in
this
evening.
Thank
you,
Whitney,
so
I'll
take
the
next
couple
of
slides
or
a
few
slides
and
just
share
a
little
bit
again
about
what
we're
doing
specifically
on
City
Boulder
HHS,
and
this
overview
slide
just
really
aligns
with
our
HHS
mission
to
strive
for
all
people
who
Thrive.
O
Assistance
programs
and
the
like
next
slide
within
our
department
just
wanted
to
bring
out
a
few
different
examples
of
very
different
sorts
of
how
we
are
currently
every
day
every
week,
every
year,
helping
families
in
need,
starting
on
the
left
for
folks
who
are
might
not
be
aware.
Within
the
city
HHS
Department,
we
have
our
family
resource
schools
program
through
which
we
actually
have
Family
Outreach
coordinators,
who
are
situated
in
a
number
of
bvsd
elementary
schools
and
working
with
families
in
need.
These
are
largely,
but
not
certainly
not
exclusively.
O
O
O
O
Another
program,
that's
much
more
recent
and
you're
familiar
with
is
the
empress
program
or
the
eviction
prevention,
rental
assistance
services.
That
also
provides
not
just
that
legal
guidance
to
help
families
who
are
already
at
the
point
of
eviction
court,
but
also
rental
assistance
to
make
sure
they
have
what
they
need
to
to
avoid
eviction
altogether.
O
And
one
thing
I
once
wanted
to
note
here,
if
you
recall
back
to
the
the
retreat
back
in
February
Kurt
in
his
address
kind
of
update
from
HHS
mentioned
at
that
time,
that
we
were
going
through
our
apparatus,
rental
assistance
funds
at
a
very
rapid
Pace.
Just
since
we
issued
the
memo
to
council
for
this
study
session,
we
were
had
about
a
quarter
of
our
budgeted
funds
for
2023
left
in
the
pot
for
rental
assistance
and
as
of
April
13th,
we're
nearly
out.
O
So
we
do
have
another
amount
of
money
that
we
provide
to
effa
through
Empress
funds
for
rental
assistance
and
and
they've
got
that
we
haven't
completely
run
out
of
those
funds.
But
that
is
to
make
the
point
that
Julie
and
Whitney
already
have
as
well.
Is
that
the
the
demand
for
resources
and
preventing
families
from
being
homeless
is
is,
is
vastly
outpacing
the
resources
that
we
have
available?
O
So
that's
something
we're
really
concerned
about
and
then
on
the
right
just
to
mention,
although
this
food
tax
rebate
and
other
programs
like
it
are
obviously
not
designed
to
as
family
homelessness
prevention,
but
are
nonetheless
a
really
great
resource
and
just
one
example
of
many
of
them
that
are
available,
that
where
we
provide
funding
to
community
members
to
to
tend
to
their
basic
needs
and
wherever
we
can
do
that,
whether
it's
utility
assistance,
food,
Health,
Care
Etc,
just
helps
offset
the
other
expenses
that
family
may
have
need
and
for
rent
next
slide.
O
Please
in
addition,
I'll
go
through
this
very
quickly.
The
city
also
makes
millions
of
dollars
in
Investments
every
year
to
support
families
in
need.
Some
of
these
funds
are
directly
related
to
family
homelessness.
Prevention,
like
our
non-competitive,
annual
Grant
to
Alpha,
for
keep
families
housed.
We
also
in
2022
for
that
the
end
of
the
that
year
and
through
2023
provided
funding
to
effa
and
span
Safe
House
Progressive
Alliance
for
non-violence
or
domestic
violence,
shelter
for
hoteling
for
families,
and
that
came
from
a
collaborative
requests
that
came
from
the
Family
Resource
Network
family
homelessness
subcommittee.
O
We
also,
of
course,
have
funds
from
arpa
that
we're
using
trying
to
use
a
strategic
strategically
as
possible
to
supplement
basic
needs.
Some
of
that
has
already
been
used
for
Empress.
It's
already
been
used
to
add
to
the
FRS
or
Family
Resource
schools,
Older
Adult
Services
buckets
to
help
families
if
they
go
there
and
also
for
things
like
utility
assistance,
again,
the
help
offset
those
costs.
And,
lastly,
with
programs
like
guaranteed
income.
O
The
Left
Behind
workers
fund
that
we
funded
through
arpa
we're
hoping
to
continue
to
try
some
different
Innovative
approaches
to
take
off
those
restrictions.
For
the
support
that
families
get
and
hope
that
helps
as
well
next
slide,
please
and
you
can
feel
free
to
just
click
through
these
Emily.
Thank
you.
So
the
question
of
are
the
city
and
the
county
and
our
non-profit
Partners
contributing
funds
literally
to
helps
with
this
problem.
O
The
answer,
of
course,
is
yes,
and
this
slide
just
gives
a
snapshot
of
funding
ranging
from
one
annual
year
for
f
as
1.5
million
and
private
funds,
900
000
in
rental
assistance
from
government
sources,
the
e-wrap
program,
which
Julie
and
Whitney
both
reference,
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program,
was
2020
through
2022.
That
just
ended
so
again.
O
We're
experiencing
some
impact
likely
from
the
unwind
and
close
down
of
that
program,
maybe
felt
otherwise
other
places
and
that's
why
we're
seeing
a
spike
in
need
from
from
other
organizations
and
then
other
Investments
at
Boulder
County
makes
in
housing
and
of
course,
the
vast
number
We
Believe
of
dollars
that
are
coming
from
our
community
members
to
organizations
like
Alpha
like
span
like
mother
house,
other
groups
that
are
helping
families
in
need
every
day,
and
we
really
to
to
tag
on
to
Kurt's
comment
earlier,
always
encourage
our
community
members
to
please
support
our
non-profit
agencies.
O
They're
they're,
really
critical
part
of
the
solutions
next
slide,
so
just
to
summarize
some
of
the
challenges
and
opportunities
for
the
next
steps.
Of
course,
you
have
heard
the
problem
of
family
homelessness
has
been
with
us
for
many
years,
but
it's
really
getting
far
worse
very
quickly,
and
one
of
the
challenges
we're
facing
is
that
because
of
the
coveted
years
and
the
kind
of
impacts
that
we
have
now
of
several
support
programs
that
are
in
unwind,
including
the
e-wrap
program,
including
SNAP
benefits,
including
Medicare,
including
the
time
frame
in
which
moratorium
evictions
was
lifted.
O
Think
one
of
the
challenges
again
that
we're
facing
right
now
when
we
have
a
meeting
tomorrow
among
several
agencies,
is
how
to
address
the
the
crisis
that
we're
facing,
because
resources
that
we
had
budgeted
for
this
whole
year
are
really
Vanishing
very
quickly,
we're
exploring
additional
funding
options
and
are
also
planning
to
adjust
programs
as
necessary
to
make
sure
that
what
we
do
have
will
stretch
as
far
as
possible,
and
we
intend
to
continue,
of
course,
working
collaboratively
with
our
partner
agencies
again,
including
many
organizations
who've
not
been
named,
but
are
nonetheless
a
critical
part
of
this
strategy
and
then
also
just
noting
that
we
also
need
to
continue
to
Monitor
and
to
explore
different
policy
initiatives
at
all
levels
of
government.
O
Just
as
Kurt
said
earlier,
this
is
really
a
national
problem.
It's
not
just
on
any
one
city
or
county
to
address
it.
The
same
certainly
is
the
case
here,
repairing
again,
some
of
these
deep
cracks
in
our
economic
and
social
system
we're
not
necessarily
of
our
making
here
in
Boulder,
but
yet
the
the
local.
This
is
our
local
challenge
to
serve
the
families
that
are
living
here
and
trying
to
stay
here
and
just
to
close
on
an
upswing.
O
So
with
that
I'm
just
reposing
the
questions
and
happy
to
answer
answer,
yours
is
Are
there
specific
issues
regarding
family
homelessness
that
you
would
like
City
staff
to
emphasize
or
priorities,
and
do
you
have
any
other
input
on
how
we
collectively
respond
with
the
county
to
this
problem?
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
Elizabeth
and
thanks
Whitney,
thanks
Julie
for
your
presentation
and
thanks
for
providing
that
guidance
and
certainly
expertise
as
we
navigate
an
extremely
difficult
situation
in
our
community
because
of
the
impact
that,
certainly
when
kids
are
experiencing
homelessness,
that
the
risk
factors
go
so
high
with
them
to
experience.
It
then
themselves
later
on
in
life.
So
thank
you
for
that.
We
are
as
we're
moving
through
them
and
just
keeping
track
of
time.
We're
we're
quite
behind
the
eight
ball
at
this
point.
B
So
I'm
going
to
ask
my
Council
colleagues
one
or
two
questions
and
and
try
to
be
brief,
because
we
still
got
to
get
through
samps
and
we
still
got
to
have
our
County
conversation
and
I'd
love
for
us
to
not
be
just
sort
of
melted
Jello
by
the
time
we
get
to
our
County
conversation.
So
if
we
can
sort
of
keep
that
short,
if
you
do
have
other
questions,
we
certainly
have
ways
to
follow
up,
but
but
I
just
ask
that
we
keep
them
a
little
quick.
B
So
we
can
keep
that
ball
rolling
with
some
of
the
work
that
we
have
to
go
on
down
the
road
here,
I
see
Tara
Aaron,
then
Mark.
C
I
would
say
yes,
I
would
continue
to
say
yes
and
partly
because
in
the
affordable
housing
World,
it's
you
see
very
few
of
the
larger
bedroom
units
built
for
the
numbers
and
the
tax
credits
and
whatever
it's
and
I
know
that
in
our
own
houses
we
only
we
have
like
four
three
bedroom
units
across
the
county
and
three
bedroom
sounds
extravagant,
but
actually,
if
you
have
two
children
of
different
genders,
you
you
need
three
bedrooms.
So
I
would
disagree
with
that.
C
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
and
I
think
it's
hard
to
prioritize
that
within
both
affordable
housing
programs,
as
well
as
kind
of
voucher
area
and
landlords,
tend
to
not
like
to
rent
to
big
families
as
well.
So
it's
much
harder
to
find
the
the
permanent,
affordable.
P
So
one
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
is
that
you
know
I
think
BHP
says
that
those
rentals
are
slowest
to
rent
the
three
and
four
unit.
One,
so
is
that,
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
hurt
you
could
help
us
out
with
or
Elizabeth
just
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
those
units
and
whether
that
might
be
the
barrier
or
what
could
you
just
provide?
Maybe
a
little
bit
more
information
about
where
this
disconnect
might
be
happening
or
anything.
F
Perfect,
that's
a
great
question
Lauren
in
in
Tara,
I.
Think
what
we've
seen
over
the
last
few
years
is
that
the
three
bedrooms,
the
affordable,
three
bedrooms,
rent
up
at
a
slower
rate
and
there
seems
to
be
sort
of
a
higher
waiting
list
of
individuals
for
the
the
one
and
two
bedroom
units
or
even
the
efficiency
units.
F
The
other
thing
we
started
looking
at
last
year,
though,
was
the
affordable
rental
rates
for
the
three-bedroom
units
and,
as
they're
targeted,
you
know
related
to
Amis
and
that
sort
of
thing
it
seems
like
they're,
probably
too
high
as
well,
and
that
could
have
a
an
impact
on
that
sort
of
equation.
So
we've
been
discussing
this
with
BHP
as
well
and
looking
at
if
there's
ways
in
the
financial
models
to
lower
the
the
affordable
rents
of
the
three-bedroom
units
and
I,
think
that
would
certainly
make
a
difference.
F
I
would
note
that
we're
still
developing
three
bedroom
units,
though
the
Rally
Sport
property-
that's
going
to
be
breaking
ground
very
soon,
has
a
number
of
three
bedroom
units
in
it
as
well.
B
Thanks
Kurt
and
thanks
for
that
call,
if
we
learned
Tara.
K
Right,
I,
don't
have
a
question,
but
just
want
to
make
a
quick
comment.
So
Julie
really
appreciate
you
being
here
and
sharing
with
us
all.
The
amazing
work
that
you
all
are
doing.
That
was
such
an
extraordinary
partner
for
the
city
and
just
incredibly
grateful
for
everything
you
do
for
the
city
as
a
whole
and
for
our
neighborhood
I
can
actually
see
your
offices
outside
by
window
right
here,
as
well
as
a
number
of
units
of
your
transitional
housing.
But
just
one
thing,
I
know
in
your
Communications
with
us
in
the
past.
K
That
you've
emphasized
is
the
need,
on
the
other
side
of
the
equation
of
higher
wages,
for
families,
for
people
in
families
and
if
we
had
more
time,
I'd
get
a
comprehensive
update
on
our
minimum
wage
effort.
But
since
we're
low
on
time,
I'll
just
make
the
point
that
we
are
working
on
it.
Lauren
is
our
Point
person.
The
efforts
to
increase
the
minimum
wage
here
in
Boulder
and
in
our
region
are
underway
and
we'll
we'll
get
you
an
update
on
that
before
too
long,
because
I
know
how
important
that
is
for
our
Working
Families.
B
No
question
awesome
all
right,
Mark
Lauren,
then
Nicole.
N
Thank
you
guys
for
that
presentation.
It
was
truly
excellent.
Very
quickly,
do
we
know
what
percentage
of
shelter
versus
unsheltered
homelessness
occurs
within
families.
O
N
C
What's
considered
doubled
up
Couchsurfing,
you
know
two
or
three
families
in
a
in
an
apartment.
The
unhoused,
the
rest
are.
The
next
biggest
chunk
is
in
temporary
shelters
like
domestic
violence,
shelters
like
our
housing,
the
and
then
probably
five
percent
that
is
unhoused
or
unsafely
housed.
Typically
in
RVs
and
cars,
you
don't
see
a
whole
lot
kind
of
camping
out
in
the.
E
N
C
This
one
for
me,
I,
can
give
you
Arc.
Yeah
I
mean
we
follow
this.
We
have
our
goal
for
families
that
go
through
our.
Our
temporary
housing
is
to
exit
this
safe,
adequate
and
affordable
housing.
We
consider
affordable
at
50
of
income
and
we
target
our
goal
is
about
80.
We've
had
80
85
success
rates
over
the
years.
Currently
it's
about
across
the
county,
it's
about
66
percent.
C
It
shows
you
how
much
harder
it
is
to
get
that's
a
solution.
On
the
back
end,
it's
a
little
bit
higher
in
our
housing
in
Boulder
and
I.
Put
that
stat
in
the
memo
I
sent
out.
We
also
can
report
that
from
the
hoteling,
which
is
the
most
kind
of
unstable
families,
we're
seeing
right
now
of
the
15
to
20
families
that
we
support
in
hotels
in
a
given
week
about
60
percent
are
finding
a
housing
solution.
P
F
Yes,
thanks
Lauren
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna
request
that
we
come
back
to
you
on
that
one
I
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
we
sort
of
that's
a
question.
I
haven't
had
yet
it's
a
very
good
one
and
I
appreciate
that
that
was
brought
up
this
evening
and
I
think
we
should
come
back
to
you
on
that.
F
After
Consulting,
our
our
affordable
housing
providers.
D
Thank
you,
I,
don't
have
any
questions
on
this
one,
but
I
did
just
kind
of
want
to
offer
some
comments
about
an
issue.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
needing
to
really
think
hard
about
in
the
next
few
years,
but
first
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
in
the
county,
the
city,
all
the
non-profits,
who
are
working
so
hard
to
help
everybody
in
our
community
I
really
do
appreciate
all
that
you're
doing
to
help
folks
out
for
me
reading
this
packet
was
incredibly
devastating.
D
We
are
doing
so
much,
but
there
are
still
so
many
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
living
on
the
edge
and
all
that
we're
doing
is
still
not
sufficient
to
address
the
underlying
issues
that
are
increasing
and
perpetuating
almost
as
and
I
heard.
A
couple
of
folks
say
you
know
before
that
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
to
do
anything
and-
and
I
just
want
to
disagree
with
that.
D
I
really
disagree
with
the
idea
that
we
don't
have
the
resources
that
we
need
to
solve
the
homelessness
and
poverty
challenges
that
we're
facing,
because
we
have
so
much
wealth
in
our
community
alongside
all
of
this
poverty.
Just
on
this
Council,
just
in
the
values
of
people's
primary
homes,
who
are
homeowners,
we're
sitting
on
over
14
million
dollars.
But
last
year
the
McKinney
vento
numbers
show
up
at
300,
300
students,
just
in
Boulder
schools,
experienced
homelessness
and
I
know
that's
an
overly
simplistic
example,
and
there
are
banks
involved
in
mortgages
and
things
like
that.
D
But
I
use
it
just
to
really
note
that
it's
a
choice,
we're
making
as
a
community
to
not
invest
some
of
our
immense
wealth
into
helping
people
prevent
and
Escape
homelessness
and
to
expect
underfunded.
Non-Profits,
to
pick
up
some
of
the
slack
of
what
are
massive
failures
in
our
social
systems
and
I.
D
B
Thank
you
for
that
Nicole
and
once
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
Elizabeth
and
Julie
at
effa
and
Whitney
for
bringing
this
up
and
giving
us
an
update
on
this.
We'll
certainly
be
circling
back
to
this
conversation,
and
we've
got
a
lot
a
lot
of
work
to
still
do,
but
it
is
worth
taking
credit
for
the
immense
and
incredible
work.
That's
happening,
and
it's
okay
to
acknowledge
that
there's
still
more
to
do
and
and
recognize
the
good
work
at
the
same
time.
B
E
Great,
thank
you
mad,
as
as
I
do
I'll
ask
Emily
to
bring
up
our
slideshow
and
we
will
try
to
go
through
this
with
as
much
detail
as
we
can,
but
also
quickly,
because
I
know.
Many
of
you
know
this
and
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
as
I
start
to
think
about,
and
this
one
I'll
frame
a
little
bit
more
than
the
rest.
E
We
have
been
talking
about
this.
A
lot
of
we've
been
talking
a
lot
tonight
about
homelessness
and
what
the
city
is
doing,
perhaps
to
think
about
that
Upstream
prevention
strategies,
housing
strategies,
what
we're
doing
with
family
homelessness
and
there's
a
lot
more
to
be
done.
This
conversation
tracks
a
little
bit
aligned
with
that.
This
is
not
critically
important.
We
have
said
this
before
the
work
that
we
do
for
safe
and
manage
public
spaces
is
not
homeless,
is
not
a
strategy
to
resolve
or
to
so
the
underlying
issue
of
homelessness.
E
It
is
really
focused
on
what
we're
seeing
as
a
symptom
or
the
impact
of
homelessness
in
our
community
and
really
addressing.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
all
of
our
public
spaces
are
accessed
by
all,
while
making
sure
that
we
are
thoughtful
and
balancing
compassionate,
compassionate
Outreach
and
helping
folks
make
sure
they're
connected
to
really
much
needed
Services
as
we're
talking
about
it?
E
We've
also
been
doing
a
lot
and
you've
heard
a
lot
about
some
recent
changes
and
I
want
to
say
that,
as
we'll
talk
and
I
know,
Joe
will
talk
about
this
more,
but
the
whole
team
has
been
thinking
about
our
abatement
protocols.
We
started
those.
We
started
the
stamps
team
in
the
fall
of
2021,
which
is
multi-disciplinary
and
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute,
but
really
started
thinking.
E
E
What
are
the
gaps
as
we
move
forward
and
late
last
fall
we're
already
thinking
about
what
are
the
changes
we
wanted
to
make,
and
although
this
was
a
big
team
effort,
I
want
to
thank
our
City
attorney
and
our
utilities
director
in
particular,
they
really
LED
this,
but
again,
you'll
see
that
this
is
a
multi-disciplinary
team
that
really
shared
in
their
insight
as
we
move
forward
and
then
lastly,
I'd
be
remiss
to
saying
that
this
work
is
without
any
challenges.
That
is
not
the
case.
E
There
is
a
lot
more
to
be
done
and,
as
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
say
that
you'll
hear
some
of
that
as
we're
moving
on
some
of
those
challenges
and
learnings
in
the
future.
Next
slide.
Emily.
If
you
will.
E
So
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
about
multi-departmental
a
lot
of
I
know.
We
often
talk
about
PD
in
this
work.
We
often
see
our
wonderful
public
spaces
team
that
lives
in
utility,
but
that
work,
but
there
are
other
folks
involved
in
this.
We
have
our
Urban
Park
Rangers.
That
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
and
frankly,
you're
going
to
hear
a
little
bit
in
the
budget
presentations
in
the
future.
We
have
our
downtown
ambassadors,
which
is
a
partnership
with
our
with
our
downtown
Boulder
partner
group.
E
We
really
have
tremendous
success
there
and
that
is
expanding
up
on
the
hill
as
well
are
be
their
Outreach
team
has
been
a
tremendous
partner.
If
you
think
about
what
resources
can
we
offer
prior
to
these
large
encampment
cleanups
and
then
really
I'll
say
that
we're
trying
to
underpin
all
of
this
with
a
foundation
of
data
and
making
sure,
quite
frankly,
that
we
are
not
running
a
foul
of
any
legal
constraints.
This
work
is
complex.
E
It
is
difficult,
it
is
work
that
has
gotten
many
a
city
into
a
legal
consternation,
and
we
really
thank
our
I.T
and
our
city
attorneys
Partners,
who
really
help
us
navigate.
Some
of
that
and
I
certainly
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
our
Communications
team.
A
lot
goes
into
making
sure
that
we're
sharing
the
right
information
that
we're
sharing
out
on
multiple
platforms
that
we're
thinking
about.
E
How
does
that
reach
those
that
need
it
the
most
and
so
our
comms
team
is
very
much
part
of
this
effort,
and
my
last
final
note
before
I
turn
it
over
to
Ali
is
that
we
have
thanks
to
the
budget
that
you
gave
us
last
year.
E
We
have
added
a
second
operations
and
cleanup
team
that
is
fully
complete
as
of
as
of
last
month
or
early
this
month,
as
we
work
on
that
and
I
hope
that
you're
starting
to
see
some
of
those
interventions,
work
and
those
interventions,
I'll
say,
aren't
just
about
the
cleanup,
but
really,
if
you've
gone
out
there
and
and
I
think
many
of
you
have
with
our
cleanup
team.
You
can
see
the
very
compassionate
approach,
both
they
and
PB
chair
as
they're
doing
that
so
I
just
can't
appreciate
the
team
enough.
E
This
is
really
hard,
taxing
work.
That
requires
a
compassionate
eye
and
really
think
that
we
have
an
amazing
crew.
That
is
doing
a
tremendous
public
service
and
there
is
more
to
be
done
as
we
continue
in
the
future.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Ali
I.
Believe.
T
Thanks
so
much
Nuria
good
evening,
I
am
Ali,
Rhodes
I'm,
the
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
and,
as
Nuria
mentioned
really
several
of
us
are
here,
but
we're
representing
the
work
of
colleagues
across
the
organization.
What
you'll
hear
tonight
is
a
people
and
data
centered
approach
that
is
really
delivered
in
a
multi-discipline
and
holistic
manner,
as
we
do
every
time
we
talk
about
the
work
of
safe
and
managed
public
spaces.
I
do
want
to
just
highlight
that
we
recognize
we
haven't
solved
this
issue.
T
There
is
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
there's
also
a
lot
of
work
to
recognize
so
and
I
also
want
to
call
out,
as
we
do
every
time
as
we
did
with
Nuria,
that
we
as
we
do
this
work,
we
are
doing
it
in
balance
with
what
you've
been
talking
about
for
the
first
two
thirds
of
your
evening.
That,
of
course,
as
we
work
to
solve
homelessness,
we
also
want
to
be
working
to
address
the
symptoms
of
it,
so
that
our
public
spaces
are
safe
and
welcoming
for
all.
T
So
this
the
memo
that
you
got
for
tonight
and
our
presentation
really
just
highlights
some
of
the
some
of
the
progress,
but
also
some
of
the
challenges
I'll
remind
folks
listening
in
Council
that
the
coordinated
work
of
the
safe
and
managed
public
spaces
team
are
Sams.
It
really
began
in
Earnest
in
2021
and,
as
we've
talked
to
city
council
about
this
work,
one
of
your
key
questions
has
been.
How
will
we
know
this
investment
in
the
internal
cleanup
team
in
our
park?
T
Rangers
is
worth
it
and
what
a
success
look
like,
and
so
in
acknowledging
that
our
work
cannot
solve
a
nationwide
housing
crisis
or
many
of
the
other
challenges
you've
talked
about
tonight.
I
want
to
just
highlight:
we've
done
really
careful
work
to
map
out
the
Sam's
program,
goals,
strategies
to
achieve
them
and
then
out
comes
to
measure
progress.
T
So
if
you
move
to
the
next
slide,
this
highlights
the
eight
program
goals
that
we
have
outlined
for
our
Sam's
work
and
as
Nuria
mentioned,
while
Sam's
does
not
try
to
solve
homelessness,
there
is
overlap
with
the
work
that
we
do
and
we
try
to
connect
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
and
living
outside
in
public
spaces
to
coordinated
entry.
You'll
hear
more
about
the
approach
and
the
protocols
from
our
colleague
Joe
tariuchi.
T
In
a
moment,
these
program
goals
and
the
2023
action
plan
to
achieve
them
are
attached
to
your
memo
and
available
online,
and
the
next
slide
just
highlights
that
we
do
have
a
23
action
plan
at
outline
specific
strategies
for
all
eight
program
goals
and
I
hope
folks
had
a
chance
to
review
it
and
see
the
thoughtful
and
strategic
work
that
was
done
by
again.
Colleagues
across
the
city,
with
partnership
from
the
real
experts
in
logic,
models
and
data
in
our
Innovation
and
technology
department.
T
So
if
you
go
to
slide
six
just
quickly
for
that
nice
graphic
and
then
we
can
move
on
to
slide
seven,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
folks
behind
the
scenes
who
get
to
advance
slides
for
multiple
speakers.
We
really
appreciate
it,
so
this
is
just
showing
you
this
and
again.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
you
know
that
this
was
an
attachment
in
your
memo.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
just
the
Data
Tracking
of
encampment
reports
and
cleanups.
T
Note
that
just
the
number
of
encampment
reports
Rose
by
nearly
140
percent
year
over
year
from
April
to
March
part
of
this
chart
reflects
more
consistent
and
regular
reporting
by
both
staff
and
the
community,
as
folks
have
become
aware
of
the
tools
that
we
have
available
for
reporting
and
then
I'll
just
note
that
the
operation
team's
output,
which
is
the
the
cleanups
reported
in
the
bar
graph
here,
it
does
vary
throughout
the
year.
It
can
be
impacted
by
factors
such
as
weather,
size
of
encampments
Staffing.
T
There
are
weeks
where
we
have
folks
in
training
and
we
have
less
capacity
one
of
the
key
outcomes
of
having
an
in-house
create
crew.
I
want
to
highlight
that
this
isn't
measured
here
or
really
anywhere,
is
that
other
maintenance
staff
have
the
ability
to
focus
on
their
assigned
and
really
core
duties
of
maintaining
our
waterways,
our
parks
and
our
transportation
corridors.
F
Thank
you
Ali.
So
the
one
of
the
first
steps
in
one
of
our
first
goals
is
really
around
Outreach
and
ensuring
that
individuals
are
touched
multiple
times
and
understand
the
services
that
are
available
to
them.
F
Over
the
last
10
months,
there's
been
1300
interactions
with
individuals
through
the
be
there
program,
but
the
Mark
Mark
Wallach
asked
in
the
first
presentation.
What
has
changed?
F
I
want
to
highlight
this
as
well,
so
the
be
there
program
changed
to
a
service
provider
from
to
this
shelter
and
one
of
the
things
that
they've
introduced
is
bringing
Services
directly
to
individuals,
so
they're
working
directly
with
individuals
sleeping
outside
with
ID
document
Assistance
or
having
their
going
through
the
vulnerability
index
to
get
them
out
of
housing,
lists
and
services,
signing
them
up
for
benefits.
F
So
by
and
large,
it's
very
difficult
work
with
this
Outreach
and
we've.
Also,
if
you
look
at
the
map
below
you'll,
see
that
it's
throughout
the
city
predominantly
along
Boulder
and
Goose
Creek,
but
throughout
the
city
where
these
Outreach
is
occurring
and
there's
a
range
of
depending
on
the
weather
and
the
season,
there's
a
range
of
the
number
of
individuals
who
are
sleeping
outside
and
we've.
According
to
our
data,
it
ranges
anywhere
from
74
individuals
on
a
night
to
268.,
and
the
thing
I
would
like
to
highlight.
F
Very
importantly,
before
I
move
on
is
the
homeless
Outreach
team,
which
you
know
it
is
hot
they're
peace
officers
that
work
with
the
the
the
homeless
on
a
daily
basis
also
work
connecting
people
with
Services
driving
them
to
appointments
and
really
creating
those
relationships
that
go
over
many
months
and
even
years
in
assisting
individuals
and
with
that
I
will
hand
it
off.
Thank
you.
T
Thanks
Kurt,
so
with
this
next
slide,
we're
just
showing
the
way
we
track
data
on
three.
This
is
that
we
are
making
sure
that
access
to
public
spaces
and
infrastructure
is
clear.
T
What
this
chart
shows
is
that
about
10,
on
average
of
the
campsites
that
we
see
are
in
fact
blocking
a
pathway
blocking
access
to
a
facility,
and
so
where
we
see,
just
as
what
Joe
shared
those
campsites
causing
access
are
primary
access
issues
are
primarily
concentrated
near
downtown
and
along
Boulder
Creek,
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
tracking
just
some
of
the
hazardous
materials
and
biohazards
that
are
found
in
encampments.
This
is
one
of
the
key
reasons
that
City
staff
have
advocated
for
additional
resources,
we'll
slow
down
a
minute.
T
I
wanted
to
call
out
this.
This
number
of
needles
is
found
this.
This
does
not
include
those
that
have
been
collected
in
the
two
public,
ski
kiosks
that
have
been
piloted
downtown
and
in
partnership
with
Boulder
County
since
May
of
2020
22
when
they
were
installed.
We've
we've
gathered
over
689
pounds
between
those
two
kiosks,
one
of
which
has
only
been
in
place
for
about
three
months,
based
upon
weight
of
a
syringe.
We
think
that's
about
62
000
needles.
T
In
addition
to
that
quantitative
data
qualitatively
our
operation
staff
are
reporting
finding
fewer
abandoned
syringes
in
nearby
public
spaces
since
installation,
so
we're
grateful
for
the
partnership
of
the
county
and
nhhs
to
to
have
those
in
public
spaces
next
slide.
T
This
one
highlights
some
of
the
outcomes
of
the
downtown
ambassador
program.
As
a
reminder,
this
is
a
partnership
between
Community
Vitality
department
and
the
downtown
Boulder
partnership.
In
addition
to
the
data
highlighted
here
and
in
your
memo,
we
wanted
to
note
that
it
is
beginning
this
month
that
sea
or
Boulder
is
contributing
to
this
program
for
a
pilot
to
augment
the
Ambassador
presidents
in
the
University
Hill
commercial
distance.
So
we're
excited
to
see
how
that
helps.
This
graph
demonstrates
the
quantity
and
distribution
of
Ambassador
contacts,
75
percent
of
which
are
Hospitality
contacts.
T
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
we're
talking
about
goal
seven
one
of
the
goals
of
this
work
is
to
reduce
the
environmental
impact
of
encampments,
including
that
we
ensure
our
waterways
are
free
of
contamination
operations.
Crews
are
encountering
about
50
encampments
per
month
on
average
that
are
near
waterways
and
have
trash
or
biohazards
present
again,
you'll
hear
from
Joe
how
we're
standing
up
the
second
team
and
we
hope
to
be
able
to
address
those
more
quickly.
T
U
Thanks
director
Rhodes,
my
name
is
Maris
Harold
I'm,
your
police
chief
on
this
slide
we're
reviewing
two
years
worth
of
crime
data
on
this
slide,
as
you
can
see,
there's
definitely
a
seasonality
to
the
crime
and
the
identified
encampment
micro
hot
spots,
especially
during
the
summer
months.
In
the
last
two
years,
crime
has
been
relatively
stable.
We
have
not
seen
significant
increases
or
decreases
in
crime
in
the
adjacent
or
in
the
encampments
themselves
of
interest
is
that
micro
hot
spots
comprise
about
10
percent
of
the
city's
geography
but
contain
30
percent
of
the
city's
crime.
U
This
crime
includes
part
one
crimes
such
as
aggravated
assaults
and
robberies
and
part
two
crimes
such
as
simple
assaults,
menacing
theft
and
harassment.
The
stata
does
not
include
Colorado
University's
Police
Department's
data
next
slide
again,
looking
at
the
same
two
years,
focusing
on
month
to
month
now
with
exact
crime
counts.
U
What's
interesting
in
these
small
identified
areas,
50
percent
of
all
warrants
in
the
city,
including
Municipal,
fugitive
apprehension
warrants
in
state
warrants,
are
contained
within
these
micro
hot
spots.
Most
of
these
warrants
were
signed
by
a
judge
after
an
individual
fails
to
appear
in
court
of
interest,
is
73
percent
of
the
individuals
have
been
identified
as
unhoused
community
members
next
slide.
U
This
slide
represents
five
years
worth
of
data.
As
you
can
see,
when
we
look
at
five
years
worth
of
data
crime
data,
you
can
see,
crime
has
trended
downward
over
the
five
years
with
a
slight
uptick
in
2022..
The
downward
trend
is
due
probably
to
several
reasons,
but
some
of
that
is
people
returning
to
work
after
the
pandemic
intensive
city
services
that
are
being
offered
in
these
micro
hot
spots.
Obviously
High
police
officer
visibility
in
these
identified
micro
hot
spots,
despite
these
downward
Trends
crime,
is
still
heavily
concentrated
in
these
areas.
U
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
overview
of
what
the
police
department
provides
for
the
unhoused
community
and
these
micro
hot
spots,
and
the
department
responds
to
these
complex
issues
identified
in
these
encampment
clusters.
In
several
ways.
First
is
service.
We
have
assigned
a
sergeant
and
two
homeless
Outreach
officers,
who
mostly
are
non-enforcement
in
their
capacity
they've,
provided
over
300
courtesy
transports
for
our
on-house
community
members
to
such
Services
as
Court
drug
treatment,
Medical
Services,
dentist,
appointments,
Detox,
Services
and
Housing
Services
connections.
U
U
If
I
can
take
a
couple
minutes
just
to
talk
about
the
Boulder
Police
Department's
Bureau
of
Justice
Administration,
smart
policing,
initiative
Grant,
which
was
authored
by
BPD-
and
we
received
that
last
year,
but
BPD
is
working
with
Dr
Natalie
hippel.
She
is
a
national
research
expert
from
Indiana
University
Boulder,
Police,
Department,
Dr
hipple
are
working
to
understand
the
harms
Associated
by
living
in
encampments,
information
sharing
between
social
service
agencies
and,
lastly,
understanding
how
our
unhouse
community
members
are
socially
and
spatially
connected.
U
U
On
this
slide,
we
are
looking
at
a
pretty
typical
J
curve
trend
line,
which
shows
that
88
people
or
20
percent
of
the
individuals
that
received
citations
campaign
citations
account
for
approximately
60
of
all
camping
tickets.
In
the
last
three
years,
these
same
88
individuals
were
also
responsible
for
967
crimes,
excluding
camping
citations,
in
other
words,
camping
citations,
are
highly
concentrated
to
a
small
number
of
unhoused
individuals.
U
S
Good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
I'm,
Joe,
tabiucci
I'm,
the
director
of
utilities
and
I,
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
community
concern
in
recent
months
about
the
condition
of
our
public
spaces
and
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
our
operations
a
bit
here
and
what
we've
been
doing
to
address
those
concerns.
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
we've
got
a
couple
here
that
I'll
go
through
quickly,
just
in
general.
S
One
thing
I'd
like
to
note
is
the
notification
step,
and
that
is
one
of
the
areas
where
the
people
focus
comes
in
and
so
in
addition
to
letting
people
know
that
they
have
to
vacate.
We
also
let
them
know
what
their
options
are
for
plugging
into
services,
including
shelter,
and
we
have
an
external
service
provider.
That's
present
with
us
on
on
the
days
we
provide
notice
next
slide.
S
We
sometimes
get
questions
about
how
we
decide
where
to
focus
our
cleanup
efforts
and
we
do
have
a
prioritization
formula
that
considers
a
number
of
factors
for
each
of
the
known
camping
locations
and
our
team
processes
that
information
each
week
and
they
decide
where
to
go
and
the
the
factors
are
shown
on
this
slide.
Certain
factors
are,
are
weighted
more
highly
and,
and
we
add
up
everything
and
assign
a
score
to
the
campsites
and
I
know.
S
There's
been
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
the
areas
around
school
and
we'll
just
note
that
the
camps
that
are
in
close
proximity
to
schools-
that's
currently
one
of
the
highest
weighted
sectors.
S
So
now,
I'd
like
to
talk
more
specifically
about
the
circumstances
that
we've
been
experiencing
in
recent
months
in
the
understandable
Community
concerns.
S
We
were
experiencing
a
lot
of
fires
at
campsites
and
we
also
had
some
recent
notable
activity
at
the
Pearl
Street
Mall,
and
so
these
photos
are
are
a
few
of
the
more
notable
situations,
but
for
our
for
those
of
us
that
are
close
to
the
work
and
the
team,
that's
doing
the
workout
in
the
field.
We
have
definitely
seen
a
change
in
the
last
four
to
six
months
and
from
the
time
we've
implemented
our
our
cleanup
program
until
I
would
say
about
the
end
of
2022.
S
We
have
a
lot
of
standard
operating
procedure,
documents
that
inform
the
work
that
we
do
and
I
shared
the
document
update
with
the
city
council
members
about
a
week
ago
and
the
highlights
of
our
updates,
and
it
really
takes
into
account
what
we've
learned
in
the
first
couple
years
of
this
program,
and
so
we
were
due
for
an
update
just
based
on
what
we
learned
and
as
well
with
the
experience
we've
had
with
changing
conditions.
S
I'll
just
highlight
a
few
of
the
updates
and
one
of
the
things
was
clarifying
for
our
teams,
the
the
tent
and
propane
ordinances
and
and
where
and
how
those
apply
in
the
introduction
Maria
showed
that
the
large
cross-departmental
team,
so
just
making
sure
that
everyone's
in
the
know
on
on
these
things
and
then
providing
notice
to
the
people
who
are
camping
in
72
hours
notice,
has
been
a
standard
of
our
protocol
since
we
developed
the
procedures.
S
But
then,
in
this
recent
update,
we
identified
some
situations,
that
are,
exceptions
need
to
be
exceptions
to
a
72-hour
notice
and
the
last
time
we
checked
in
with
Council
back
in
August
of
2022.
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
multi-use
paths,
path,
underpasses
and
people
that
were
setting
up
tents
and
and
creating
obstructions,
and
so
we've
identified
situations
like
that,
where
the
team
can
go
out
without
notice
and
and
create
a
safer
situation
for
everyone
involved,
including
those
who
are
camping
and
we've
been
able
to
implement
that
here
recently.
S
Another
thing
that
we've
experienced
in
the
first
few
years
of
doing
this-
and
it's
been
more
prominent
in
2023-
is
where
the
team
comes
through,
and
the
people
who
are
camping
just
move
a
few
hundred
feet
away
in
the
noticed
area,
maybe
after
the
team
leaves
for
the
day
and
that's
not
really
the
intent
of
the
policy.
So
we've
we've
updated
our
procedures
to
address
that
and
we're
a
few
weeks
into
implementing
these
new
procedures.
At
the
end
of
this
week,
it'll
be
our
third
week.
S
A
big
part
of
it
has
been
providing
advanced
notice
to
the
people
who
are
camping
and
letting
them
know
our
intentions
that
things
things
would
change
and
that
they
can't
just
move
a
few
feet
away
like
I
just
mentioned,
and
and
so
we're
starting
to
have
more
success
with
that
and
getting
voluntary
compliance
again.
So
the
communication
and
The
Upfront
part
is
is
really
important.
S
S
I
would
say,
the
officers
are
in
the
most
difficult
position
of
those
doing
the
public
spaces
work
and
they
deserve
a
lot
of
credit,
and
they
continue
to
amaze
me
with
the
skill
they
show
in
in
keeping
things
calm
and
in
de-escalation
was
doing
a
tour
with
community
members
just
yesterday,
and
and
there
was
a
situation
where
a
flight
was
breaking
out
between
two
of
our
on-house
community
members
and
and
it
was
starting
to
escalate
and
the
officers
who
do
this
work
every
day
engaged
and
within
a
minute.
S
One
of
the
people
was
calm
and
sitting
down
and
I
just
watched
the
energy
drop
and-
and
it
was
really
impressive,
to
see
firsthand
so
I'm-
really
proud
of
the
way
that
our
team
does
the
work
in
the
field
and
and
how
they
represent
our
our
city
values.
S
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
I'm
wrapping
up
here
shortly.
So
we've
also
checked
in
with
Council
and
and
let
you
know
that
we've
updated.
Our
signage
notice
is
a
critical
part
of
our
public
spaces
program
and
the
signs
are
a
permanent
form
of
notice
and
provide
Clarity
of
what
the
rules
are
around
camping,
tents
and
propane.
S
We
have
a
QR
code
on
the
signs
that,
if
people
make
use
of
that,
we'll
take
them
to
a
a
website
that
has
available
services,
and
so
we
have
about
50
signs,
ordered
and
they'll
be
placed
initially
along
the
Boulder
Creek
Corridor
in
the
downtown
area
and
around
Boulder
High
School,
as
well
as
Sinton
park
near
the
Dairy
Center
and
along
Goose
Creek.
Where
we
see
a
lot
of
the
most
active
camping
occur,
so
next
slide.
S
So
just
want
to
close
by
looking
forward
and
talking
about
some
of
the
challenges
we
I
thought.
We
outlined
them
pretty
well
in
the
in
the
memo
and
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
all
of
them,
and
others
may
have
mentioned
it
before
me
here.
But
the
I
think
Ali
showed
a
slide
and
talked
about
the
number
of
needles
that
are
collected
and
addiction
is
a
really
big,
Challenge
and
other
than
collecting
the
needles.
S
It's
not
really
something
the
public
spaces
can
address,
but
for
those
who
are
out
doing
the
work
day
to
day
and
and
those
of
us
who
spend
time
with
the
team
and
see
it
more
firsthand,
it's
one
of
the
primary
reasons
that
I
think
people
get
stuck
in
the
camping
situation.
Of
course,
that
doesn't
apply
to
everybody,
but
it's
a
big
challenge.
S
Another
big
challenge
for
our
work
and
just
being
really
candid
here
we
have
divided
Community
views
on
this
work
and
and
deeply
held
perspectives
on
different
sides
of
the
issues
and
our
team
was
is
caught
in
the
middle
of
that
and
and
honestly,
our
police
officers
bear
the
brunt
of
that.
As
I
mentioned
they're
in
the
the
trickiest
spot
and
I
think,
there's
really
well-intended
efforts
on
all
sides
of
the
issues,
but
at
times
we're
working
against
each
other.
S
If
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
in
in
terms
of
next
steps
and
I'll
I'm
sure
it'll
catch
up
here,
but
I'll
just
keep
going
we'll
continue
to
implement
our
2023
action
plan
that
was
mentioned
earlier.
A
big
part
of
that
is
implementing
our
updated
abatement
procedures.
S
I
still
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
get
the
new
crew
members
up
to
speed
and
to
streamline
that
work
and
we'll
also
work
on
our
communication,
with
both
internally
and
with
the
public
and
and
prioritize
training
for
our
team
members,
and
so
if
we
can
go
to
the
last
slide,
I'll
just
end
with
a
note
on
this
photo
and
open
it
up
then,
to
questions,
and
this
photo
really
brings
it
back
to
utilities
and
and
why
the
the
crew
is
housed
in
our
department
and
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
a
public
spaces
program.
S
We
just
can't
this
is
the
Goose
Creek
path
and
we
just
cannot
have
people
sleeping
in
our
flood
ways.
We're
heading
into
thunderstorm
season
and
flash
floods
can
happen
at
any
time
so
yeah
there
there's
important
work
to
to
be
done
to
keep
everybody
safe,
and
so
that's
our
pres.
That's
our
prepared
presentation
and
and
we'd
be
happy
to
take
questions
that
council
members
and
I
have.
B
Foreign
thank
you
Joe,
and
thanks
to
the
Chief
and
Ally,
and
really
to
this
multi-departmental
work,
that's
being
done,
we
recognize
how
difficult
it
is,
and
certainly
that
that
there's
a
long
road
ahead
of
us
and
it
can
seem
like
there's
futility
in
the
work
but
but
but
know
that
that
there's,
you
know
some
outcomes
here
that
the
community
does
have
challenges
in
on
both
sides
of
that
issue
and
I
appreciate
Joe
you
bringing
up
that
sometimes,
if
we're
working
against
each
other,
but
but
if
we
can
find
ways
to
work
towards
similar
Solutions
that
that
would
be
welcomed
in
terms
of
a
common
outcome.
B
So
appreciate
that
and
thanks
because
I
know
that
was
kind
of
an
Abridged
presentation
to
help
us
get
back
on
time.
So
thank
you
guys
for
your,
your
very
precise
execution
of
that
presentation.
So
I
greatly
appreciate
it.
We're
going
to
move
into
questions
checking
in
we're
at
we're
at
8
50,
so
we're
getting
kind
of
close
to
our
allotted
time.
I
know
we'll
we'll
likely
leak
over,
which
is
fine,
and
so
let's,
just
maybe
you
know,
do
one
or
two
questions.
B
If
you
got
some
comments,
that's
fine
too
we'll
do
one
or
two
questions
in
the
first
round.
If
you
got
comments,
why
don't
we
reserve
those
for
the
back
end
and
then
we'll
get
sort
of
teed
up
and
transition
to
our
conversation
about
the
county,
so
I
see
Bob's
hand
up
and
we'll
start
with
Bob.
J
Thanks
man,
thanks
for
all
the
presenters,
that
was
a
great
presentation
and
it
was
abbreviated,
and
we
should
probably
have
a
link
to
your
conversation
about
well
everything
we
talked
about
tonight.
Each
one
of
these
is
probably,
as
Matt
said
at
the
beginning,
deserving
of
a
full
study
session.
I
I
just
have
one
question
for
Joe
and
maybe
one
question
for
for
the
Chief
Joe.
J
Thanks
for
for
sharing
with
us
your
your
revised
protocols,
it
sounds
like
you're
about
a
third
of
the
way
into
a
45-day
plan
to
to
test
how
those
are
going.
Can
you
maybe
just
share
with
us
very
briefly
your
measures
of
success
and
whether
this
45-day
plan
is,
is
working
and,
and
will
you
be
kind
of
checking
with
us?
Maybe
in
the
I,
don't
know
June
or
July
time
frame
when
that
45
days
is
up
to?
Let
us
know
how
things
are
going.
S
Yeah
sure
and
and
I
think
Ali
covered
the
the
goals
slide
and
we
have
measurement
elements
of
all
of
the
goals,
including
the
camping,
so
that'll
be
the
primary
way
that
we
would
measure
success,
but
I
think
the
the
four
of
us
directors
that
are
involved
in
the
work
are
also
paying
really
close
attention
and
working
closely
with
our
team,
and
we
were
starting
to
see
in
2023
things
changing
and
the
team
would
come
through
and
there
let's
say
there
were
10
10
tents
in
an
area
that
we
had
noticed
and
after
their
they
leave.
S
You
know
in
2022
the
the
place
would
clear
for
a
while,
and
people
would
move
to
other
areas
and
we
were
seeing
people
more
quickly
established.
So
in
the
first
few
weeks
here
where
we
focused
on
the
Boulder
Creek
Corridor
I
think
it's
been
a
dramatic
change
and
it's
been
much
more
clear
of
tense.
So
I
think
in
addition
to
our
measurement
measures,
we're
just
going
to
be
seeing.
S
Can
we
sustain
that
and
are
there
potentially
some
unintended
consequences
of
moving
people
into
they
go
to
other
areas,
so
I
think
we'll
be
looking
at
those
things.
J
Thanks
Joe,
we
look
forward
to
those
outcomes
and
that
report,
maybe
in
the
summertime
Chief
we
kind
of
first
of
all,
the
the
numbers
you
shared
with
us
tonight,
were
absolutely
mind-boggling
as
far
as
the
concentration
on
campaign
violations
and
other
violations.
So
thank
you
for
that
data.
I
know
we
kind
of
put
you
and
Daniel
on
the
spot
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
time
to
to
go
back
and
and
reflect
on
some
of
the
numbers
or
the
questions.
J
Have
the
numbers
reflect
on
the
the
questions
that
we
asked
you
a
couple
weeks
ago?
Probably
unfairly,
do
you
have
you?
You
gave
us
some
really
interesting
numbers
on
on
citations
for
camping
and
tent
possession
tonight.
Do
you
have
kind
of
conviction,
I'm
kind
of
curious?
What
the
conviction
rate
is
for
camping
bands
versus
other
Municipal
crimes.
I
mean
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
crimes
that
can
be
committed.
J
U
Well,
thanks
for
the
question
and
I
know:
Dr
reinhardt's
with
us
he's
been
been
tracking.
This
data,
you
know
I,
would
I
would
say,
and
Daniel
probably
has
specific
dispositions,
but
I
would
say
the
vast
majority
of
camping
citations,
intense
citations,
are
dismissed
at
some
point
out
of
the
municipal
court
and
that
dismissal
process
could
involve
a
lot
of
interventions,
but
unlike
traffic
citations,
where
there's
fines,
Associated
or
other
other
other
consequences
associated
with
that
I
would
say
the
vast
majority
are
dismissed
and
they
have
a.
U
V
When
we
look
at
case
dispositions,
it
seems
to
be
that
a
large
proportion
of
The
martist
Mists
but
they're
dismissed
under
circumstances
like
for
alternative
sentencing
options
to
connect
folks
to
services,
and
so
there
are
differences
between
dismissals
for
different
kinds
of
cases.
But
those
are
examples
of
things
that
we
see.
I
W
So
many
of
the
cases
related
to
Camping
are
handled
throughout
the
municipal
Court's
Community
Court
program,
which
is
intended
to
provide
connections
for
folks
to
services,
but
primarily
to
get
them
into
housing.
And
so,
if
someone
takes
a
significant
step
towards
that,
whether
that's
getting
an
ID
or
whatever
the
circumstance
may
be.
If
they
do
that,
then
their
case
does
get
dismissed
and
that's
a
way
for
the
court
to
create
that
connection
to
hopefully
ultimately
get
them
into
housing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
explain
that
a
little
bit
more.
J
Great
great
thanks,
Andrew
and
then
my
final
question
I
appreciate
that
all
my
final
question
really
kind
of
relates
to
something
that
that
Joe
said
about
the
new
protocols
and
and
and
and
trying
to
avoid
the
situation
where
someone
is
is
moved
and
then
they
just
move.
You
know
a
few
hundred
yards
down
the
down
the
road
is
it
possible.
Maybe
this
is
more
of
a
question
for
you
Sandra.
J
Is
it
possible
to
have
the
three-day
rule
waive
for
somebody
who's
kind
of
repeat
repeating
the
camp
in
the
same
area
or
or
is
there
a?
Is
there?
No
trespass?
You
know
injunction
that
can
be
put
in
place
where
we
have
somebody.
J
You
know
the
chief
showed
a
lot
of
a
small
number
of
people
that
seem
to
be
responsible
for
the
large,
a
large
number
of
violations,
the
zero
mechanism
legal
mechanism
to
to
either
eliminate
the
three-day
rule
with
respect
to
those
people
who
are
just
you
know,
moving
down
down
the
down
the
hill
or
or
to
kind
of
have
a
whole
Zone.
That
they're
kind
of
banned
from
for
a
period
of
time
is
that
in
the
realm
of
possible.
W
So
you've
asked
a
very
complicated
question
and
an
attempt
to
briefly
answer
it,
so
the
the
the
notice
rule
has
to
do
with
providing
people
with
an
opportunity
to
gather
their
things
so
that
they
are
not
deprived
of
their
property
by
the
government,
and
so
it's
really
not
about
the
number
of
the
type
of
offense
or
the
the
violation.
It's
it's
providing
that
person
with
that
opportunity.
In
the
case
where
somebody
just
moves
a
couple
of
feet,
we
don't
provide
additional
notice
on
those
cases.
W
Okay
and
I
think
there
was
a
second
part
to
your
question.
I,
don't
remember
it's.
J
Kind
of
related
to
that
Sandra
I
think
that
was
very
helpful
if
someone
is
repeatedly
camping
in
an
area,
a
Zone
and
we
give
a
three-day
notice
and
they
move
a
few
feet
and
give
it
another
notice.
Is
there
a
point
where
they're
kind
of
such
a
repeat
offender?
We
or
the
judge
could
just
say:
Hey?
Listen!
You
just
can't
like
you
can't
be
in
this
place
for
a
period
of
time.
It's
just
like
a
timeout.
W
We
are
looking
into
the
use
of
exclusion
orders,
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
definitely
working
with
before
possibly
pursuing.
So
yes,
the
other
issue
related
to
this,
though,
is
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
the
court
cannot
hold
folks
on
on
a
regular
Bond.
It's
they're
all
PR
bonds
with
these
types
of
offenses,
and
so
you
know
it
there's
not
an
opportunity
to
to
provide
any
of
that
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
as
well
too,.
B
Yeah
I'm
done
yeah
go
for
it,
Lauren
and
and
I
just
make
positive,
there's
some
real
big
depth
here
and
I'm.
Just
if
we
get
going
a
bit,
we
might
want
to
hold
or
pause
these
for
that
larger,
bigger
discussion
down
the
road
a
little
bit,
but
but
just
but
go
ahead
Lauren,
but
I
just
want
to
catch
that
we're
on
to
some
big
threads
here.
P
P
W
So
it's
the
area,
that's
noticed,
and
it's
we
help
to
provide
reasonable
notice,
and
so
many
times
the
actual
intents
are
are
noticed.
But
there's
also
the
opportunity
for
us
to
notice
an
area
so
and
perhaps
someone
else
can
talk
to
the
practicality
of
what
that
looks
like.
But
it
really
we're
only
required
to
provide
reasonableness
in
terms
of
the
notice
requirement.
S
I
can
add
to
what
you
were
saying
Sandra
and
each
week
when
we
do.
The
notice
and
I
talked
about
the
signs
which
are
kind
of
a
permanent
form,
but
we
make
every
effort
to
tag
the
tents
that
are
out
there
with
with
a
piece
of
paper
and
on
it
are
our
latest
forms
of
notice
also
describe
a
specific
area.
It
might
be
from
9th
Street
to
17th
and
between
Canyon
and
Arapahoe,
or
some
descriptor
like
that.
P
B
Oh
thanks,
Lauren
I
saw
Juni
also
had
a
follow-up
as
well,
but
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
her
as
well.
For
that
one
so
Judy
did
you
have
a
colaqui
on
the
colloqui.
Thank.
I
You
so
much
I
just
have
a
quick
question
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
the
slides
as
well
I,
based
on
what
I
hear
I'm
just
a
bit
confused
and
I
wanted
some
clarity
around
the
idea
of
I
understand
the
notice
to
vacate
if
someone
is
their
pitch
attempt
and
they're
living
in
the
area,
and
then
there
are
cleanups
I
understand
all
that
aspect.
But
my
question
is
these
parks
are
public
spaces
and
I'm
wondering
if
we're
running
into
any
type
of
constitutional
issue?
I
Can
we
Bend
Community
members
from
public
spaces
that
are
open
to
the
public,
so
I'm,
just
a
little
bit
I
just
thought:
I
needed
some
clarity
around
that,
because
I
understand
private
property,
we
can't
I
mean
people
can
be
trespassed
from
private
property
because
it's
private,
but
a
public
space
I
understand
you
can
ask
them
not
to
not
to
conduct
the
activity
that
they
are
conducting,
because
maybe
the
area
is
not
is
not
good
for
that
particular
activity,
but
to
bend
the
person
physically
from
that
area,
especially
knowing
it's
a
public
right
away.
I
W
I
can
try
and
address
your
question
Judy
and
without
getting
into
legal
advice.
I
would
say
that
you
know
we
have
a
camping
law
and
it's
been
passed
legislatively
and
we
believe
that
it
is
constitutional
and
that's
been
our
position.
B
Yeah
but
I
just
wanted
to
we're
going
down
a
big
threat
here,
and
maybe
could
we
perhaps
maybe
table
this
question
for
perhaps
a
memo
from
CAO
or
at
least
for
a
larger
discussion,
because
we're
going
down
a
big
rabbit
hole
on
this
one
particular
thread
versus
sort
of
staying
a
little
bit
higher
level.
We
want
to
get
to
some
other
questions,
so
I
just
noticed
we
kind
of
dropped
right
down
this
one,
so
Aaron.
K
I
want
to
be
real,
quick,
but
I.
Just
I
think
there
was
a
maybe
a
bit
of
a
misunderstanding,
because
I
think
I
heard
Ginny
saying
how
could
we
prevent
a
person
from
being
in
a
park
and
I?
Don't
think
we're
doing
that?
I
think
we're
what
we're
the
the
prohibition
is
about
camping
in
a
park
not
about
being
in
a
park,
so
Sandra
I.
Think
in
your
answer.
K
B
Thanks
Aaron
and
there's
probably
more
to
discuss
on
this
I
I've
made
a
note
that
that'll
be
something
to
Circle
back
to
I've
got
an
idea
for
us
here
in
a
minute.
But
let's
move
to
Tara
I
know
Aaron's
got
his
questions
then
Lauren
and
we'll
keep
on
moving
on,
but
I
appreciate
it.
L
Two
rabbit
holes
I'd
like
to
address
tonight
the
first
one,
the
first
one
is
propane
tanks,
so
I
guess
I
want
to
I
think
the
a
good
portion
of
the
people
in
the
community
are
probably
stressed
because
of
the
fire
safety
issues
with
propane
tanks.
Can
you
remind
me
of
what
happens
to
somebody
who
has
a
propane
tank
in
and
in
a
park
or
in
a
shared
space
and
also
Joe?
Do
you
remember
when
I
saw
you
on
that
hike
down
the
so
let's
say
I
this
did
happen.
L
I
I
was
walking
down
the
creek
doing
a
nice
little
walk,
walkabout
and
I
saw
right
attached
to
the
library,
meaning
like
a
foot
away,
a
beautiful,
North,
Face,
tent
and
inside
that
tent
was
a
very
large
propane
tank.
So
in
that
case,
when
of
course
I
would
be
visualizing.
If
that
thing
blew
up,
it
would
be
terrible
for
the
library
that
was
my
first
reaction.
L
So
tell
me:
are
we
allowed
to
confiscate
those
if
they're
inside
a
tent,
but
we
see
them
and
how
should
the
community
members
deal
with
that
particular
thing,
since
a
lot
of
people
are
worried
about
that,
and
then
I
do
have
one
plea
and
that
is:
can
you
tell
me
where
people
you
think
people
are
getting
these
propane
tanks?
Are
they
getting
them
from?
Are
they
given
out
on
our
locations
or
in
parks?
Are
they
buying
them?
Are
they
being
take?
L
U
I
can
I
can
start
that
and
I'm
going
to
have
Daniel
probably
give
you
some
quick
stats
on
that
councilmember
weiner.
Yes,
we
confiscate
them
when
we
see
them
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
they're
so
dangerous.
We
do
have
intelligence
that
community
members
are
providing
the
smaller
like
the
grilling,
the
very
small
propane
tanks
out
and
I.
Think
Dr
Reinhardt
has
some
crimes,
crime
report
stats
on
propane
tanks,
at
least
it
gives
us.
We
know
this
is
so
underreported,
but
at
least
it
gives
us
some.
U
V
Yeah
absolutely
Chief,
so
so
very
high
level
overview.
To
be
brief.
So
this
year
we've
had
about
25
or
so
reports
like
documented
Boulder,
Police
Department
reports
involving
propane
tanks
and
the
circumstances
that
involve
them
are
are
varied,
and
so
we
have
some
examples
of
burglaries
of
businesses
that
that
have
propane
tanks.
We
also
have
reports
involving
obviously
tent
fires,
unattended
property
and
so
just
observing
a
propane
tank
without
anyone
around
like
on
a
sidewalk
and
those
are
going
to
be
different,
obviously
from
like
attempted
thefts
of
propane
tanks.
V
U
I
should
clarify
that
that
that,
obviously
we
can't
confiscate
something
that's
inside
a
tent
without
getting
a
search
warrant,
but
if
they're
out-
and
we
try
to
get
somebody
to
say
it's
theirs
most
the
time
people
say
we
don't
know
whose
it
is
and
we
just
confiscate
it
and
tag
it
and
put
it
into
evidence.
L
Let
me
just
finish
the
first
rabbit
hole.
If
this
is
a
plea
to
community
members
who
are
giving
away
propane
tanks,
I
would
think
because
they
want
people
they
they're
doing
it
for
what
they
think
is
good.
I
am
not
understanding
why
that
would
be
a
good
thing
in
light
of
our
wins
and
our
fire
situation
so
I
invite
you
to.
Please
call
me
up
and
sit
down
with
me.
L
I
beg
you
and
just
tell
me,
where
you're,
what
you're
thinking
and
maybe
we
could
talk
about
this
I
know
that
sounds
crazy,
but
you
know
I
have
a
reputation
for
talking
to
anybody
and
listening
to
what
anybody
has
to
say
so
I
invite
you
to
do
that.
Okay,
next
I'm,
moving
on
to
the
second
rapid
hole
of
drug
overdoses,
so
I
have
a
question
for
you.
We
found
we
we
heard
about
the
people
that
almost
died
of
drug
overdoses
and
thanks
to
everybody
who
saved
them,
I
appreciate
that
I.
L
Wonder
then
what
happened
to
the
people
after
they
were
saved?
Were
they
left
out
there
in
the
you
know
in
the
Central
Park
area,
where
the
do
we
are,
we
do
we
have
places
where
we
can
take
them
like
detox
centers,
that
we
are
not
implementing
that
we
can
perhaps
Implement
what's
happening
in
that
whole
world.
The
world
of
drug
overdoses.
U
Thanks
for
the
question,
I'm
gonna,
let
deputy
chief
Redfern
because
he's
been
out
on
these
and
he's
been
working
with
the
county
and
public
health
officials
on
this
and
he's
been
tracking
this,
since
this
unfortunate
incident
that
occurred
so
Steve
you
mind
helping
me
out
here.
X
Not
at
all
Chief
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
Council
Steve
Redford,
Deputy,
police,
chief
councilmember
weiner,
it's
a
great
question.
So
some
of
the
issues
we're
seeing
is
we
will
give
someone
Narcan
in
the
field
and
it
is
a
temporary
reversal
of
the
overdose.
And
so
ultimately,
the
person
needs
to
go
to
the
hospital
and
a
medical
professional
needs
to
be
the
one
saying
yes,
they're
safe.
However,
sometimes
they
refuse
and
walk
away
and
and
the
ambulance
crew
is
not
going
to
restrain
them,
we're
not
going
to
restrain
them.
X
We
have
had
people
overdose
one
day,
go
back
on
them
the
very
next
day
overdosing
because
there
is
it's
very
difficult
and
we
don't
have
the
ability,
most
of
the
time
to
force
someone
to
go
into
a
hospital.
Typically
they'll
be
released
after
their
deemed
stable
in
the
ER,
and
they
can,
you
know,
end
up
right
back
out
on
the
street,
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
scenario
we've
been
dealing
with.
X
It
tends
to
be
some
of
the
same
individuals
typically,
but
a
lot
of
people
are
carrying
Narcan
themselves,
and
so
that's
the
other
piece
of
this
is:
there
are
a
lot
of
overdoses.
We
may
not
be
getting
notified
about
because
they
don't
need
to
call
9-1-1
because
they've
revived
themselves-
sometimes
that's
not
enough
and
we'll
have
to
give
multiple
doses
of
Narcan,
and
so
we
do
encourage
people
to
call.
There
are
legal
protections
for
people
to
report
an
overdose.
Ultimately,
they
need
to
go,
go
to
a
hospital
and
be
evaluated
to
really
be
deemed
safe.
L
X
Our
officers
take
people
to
our
addiction,
recovery
center
or
the
arc
here
in
Boulder
on
a
daily
basis:
alcohol,
if
we
arrested
DUI
and
they're
they're,
intoxicated
we'll
take
them
there
until
they're
sober,
but
we
will
take
people
there
for
other
substance
abuse
as
well
a
lot
of
times,
though,
when
someone
is
given
Narcan
and
it's
reversed
they're,
not
exhibiting
the
signs
that
they're
so
intoxicated
that
they're
not
able
to
care
for
themselves.
X
So,
typically,
when
we
take
someone
to
detox,
we
have
to
meet
that
legal
threshold
that
they're
not
capable
of
caring
for
themselves,
and
so
that's
also
something
that
we
have
to
evaluate
on
the
street
and
there
are
restrictions
if
someone
is
being
violent.
If
someone
is
causing
problems
that
detox
centers
not
going
to
take
them
typically,
the
jail
may
not
be
either,
and
so
we
end
up
in
a
in
a
little
bit
of
a
conundrum
there.
At
times,.
X
Good
question
typically
we'll
try
to
find
somewhere
to
take
them
a
responsible
friend,
a
family
member
things
like
that.
Ultimately,
the
jail
will
work
with
us
in
extreme
cases.
It
involves
a
lot
of
problem
solving
to
to
figure
out
a
a
place
where
they're
safe.
We
definitely
don't
just
put
them
right
back
out
on
the
street.
B
Jerry,
are
you
good?
Oh
all,
right.
She
moved
your
hand
over.
Let
me
just
before
before
it
goes.
I
just
want
to
pause
to
say
this
is
a
really
I
mean.
This
is
a
new
protocol
and
I
think
we're
we're
a
little
bit
into
the
45-day
implementation
window.
There
Joe
I
I,
just
wanted
to
ask
my
Council
colleagues.
B
Do
we
feel
it
would
be
appropriate
to
Circle
back
to
this
subject,
not
to
foreclose
questions
now,
but
just
to
know
that
we
can
dive
deeper,
maybe
at
the
end
of
that
45-day
window,
and
so
maybe
I
Look
to
Nuria
and
Joe
just
to
see
because
I
I
get
a
sense.
We
want
to
really
dive
into
this
here
and
I.
Don't
know
if
this
is
the
right
spot
versus
maybe
letting
that
45
days
go
and
then
we
can
take
a
bigger
bite
out
of
that.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
pause
before
going
to
Aaron
just
to
see,
if
that's
a
good
outlet
for
people
to
know
that
they've
got
a
second
chance
to
dive
deeper
if
they
so
choose.
E
B
If
that'll
help
help
get
with
people
on
questions,
but
I
saw
Aaron's
hand
up
and
then
his
hand
down,
but
I
still
want
to
defer
to
Aaron
on
this
one
so
go
for
it.
It.
K
Was
my
question?
Was
around
propane
tanks
and
I
had
a
slightly
different
take
on
it,
but
since
we're
getting
late,
I'll,
just
let
Tara's
questions
rest
and
thanks
for
bringing
this
up.
Tara
and
I'm
good.
P
Thanks
it's
a
quick
one,
so
in
the
prioritization
formula,
I
saw
that
impact
on
neighborhood
livability
was
one
of
the
items
and
I
was
just
wondering
how
we
quantify
that
when
we're
making
that
assessment.
S
Yeah
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
that
right
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
was
looking
at
that
the
other
day
and
it's
just
quantifying.
If
there's
trash
and
stuff
like
that,
that
is
kind
of
spilling
into
a
neighborhood,
and
then
it
becomes
a
factor
in
that
prioritization
score.
B
Thanks
Lauren
Nicole
you're
up.
D
Yep
and
I
got.
Can
we
do
comments
if
I
don't
have
questions
relatively
quick
sure?
Okay,
thanks
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge.
Also
just
the
challenge
to
staff
with,
especially
the
recent
increases
and
overdoses
that
everybody's
been
dealing
with.
No
one
should
have
to
live
outside.
Nobody
should
have
to
do
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
either
so
I'm
really
hopeful
that
we
can
find
some
better
Solutions,
but
I
know
it's
it's
hard
to
witness.
This
I
just
saw
one
the
other
day
and
it's
it's
challenging.
D
So
thank
you
to
staff
for
for
working
on
that.
I
was
really
curious.
Just
looking
at
those
be
there
impact
numbers
whether
that
model
of
going
out
to
people
is
the
most
effective
use
of
what
are
pretty
limited
resources
on
our
part.
D
D
In
terms
of
how
many
folks
they're
reaching
I,
asked
about
their
impact
numbers
and
it's
really
pretty
impressive
last
year
they
served
719
Unique
Individuals
and
they
had
an
average
of
about
104
people
each
hour
that
they
were
there
77
of
the
people.
They
served
returned
at
least
twice
in
a
month
with
an
average
of
74
service
connections.
Each
week,
75
of
the
individuals
there
are
actually
traveling
to
feet
forward
every
week
from
other
other
spaces
or
places
where
they
are,
they
don't
have
to
go.
You
know,
spend
the
time
going
out.
D
Looking
for
folks
and
last
year
they
supported
64
individuals
experiencing
homelessness
into
active
housing
plans
with
31
exits
from
home
homelessness.
So
24
of
those
people
are
engaged
in
ongoing
peer
support,
so
those
are
pretty
good
numbers
and
attracting
people
to
a
place
and
I
know
I'm
biased
because
I
volunteer
there,
but
the
numbers
are
unbiased
and
I
am
just
really
thinking.
D
If
we
want
to
be
successful
with
our
day
Center
and
trying
to
get
people
there,
I
really
hope
we
can
make
use
of
other
groups
in
the
community
that
are
having
a
lot
of
success
already
in
this
model
of
bringing
people
to
a
place
and
connecting
them
with
services
and
also
just
on
the
topic
of
the
propane
tanks.
This
may
be
a
late
nine
o'clock,
crazy
idea,
but
we
have
so
many
brilliant
high
school
students
in
our
community
and
college
students
as
well.
D
I
was
wondering:
can
we
be
Innovative
and
give
them
a
design
challenge
to
create
an
alternative
to
a
propane
tank,
so
something
cheap,
safe,
easy
to
make
that
can
kind
of
keep
people
warm
and
I
can
not?
You
know,
fall
over
and
and
not
explode
those
kinds
of
things.
It
seems
like
something
where
we
could
just
offer.
D
You
know
whoever
can
can
to
kind
of
do
that,
the
most
safely
cheaply
efficiently
they
get
a
prize,
and
it
seems
like
we
could
work
on
giving
people
an
alternative
to
propane
tanks
and
and
try
to
minimize
the
use
of
that.
So
anyway,
just
trying
to
think
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
box
to
make
make
use
of
the
expertise
and
creativity
that
we
have
in
our
community
thanks.
Everyone.
B
Thanks
Nicole
I
I
have
sort
of
one
like
a
one,
slash
a
question
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we've
surveyed
this,
but
it's
a
question
about
you
know
of
the
people
that
that
our
teams
are
interacting
with
do
we
have
any
sense
of
of
how
many
or
in
terms
of
a
percentage
of
them
that
would,
you
know,
accept
being
you
know,
provided
or
or
directed
to
a
a
safe
outdoor,
Space
versus
being
on
the
creek
or
or
by
the
Bandshell?
B
Do
we
have
any
sense
of
what
that
conversion
rate
would
be,
and
then
maybe,
similarly
to
Kurt
of
of
those
that
were
obviously
you
know
interacting
with
on
this
with
Sams?
Do
we
have
any
idea
of
how
many
of
them
are
maybe
with
a
voucher
in
hand
or
or
ready
to
go
housing,
and
yet
just
can't,
because
there's
not
inventory
so
they're
kind
of
waiting
and
and
waiting
for
inventory
to
be
available
for
them
to
sort
of
move
on
through
the
trajectory
so
kind
of
two-part
question
but
I'm
kind
of
curious.
F
Oh,
thank
you.
I'll
try
to
address
both
of
those.
So,
yes,
there
are
individuals
that
go
straight
from
living
outside
into
housing.
It's
not
a
big
number,
and
you
know,
judge
cook,
obviously
has
a
interaction
with
some
of
those
individuals.
The
hot
team
also
helps
with
that
and
and
be.
There
has
also
assisted
people
in
that
way,
but
also
through
diversion
which
we're
now
providing
sort
of
out
in
the
field.
F
I
I
would
say
that
we,
we
probably
shouldn't
be
too
simplistic
about
the
process
of
housing,
typically
transitioning
individuals
into
housing,
and
particularly
those
who
are
living
outside
it,
takes
a
whole
team
effort.
There's.
F
Regular
collaborations,
with
all
the
partners
who
are
doing
this
to
work
on
individuals
and
connecting
them
to
the
housing,
and
it's
it's
a
huge
effort
and
except
for
those
who
go
through
more
of
a
traditional
process
through
the
shelter,
it's
it's
complicated
and
also
you
know
highlighting
thank
you
for
highlighting
the
work
of
of
feet
forward.
F
They
play
a
role
in
that
as
well,
and
I
am
certainly
hopeful
that
some
of
that
same
as
you
talked
about
bringing
people
together,
I'm
hoping
that
the
services
they
provide
can
be
provided
at
the
day
service
center
as
well,
and
it
can
be
the
day.
Service
center
can
be
sort
of
an
instrument
for
those
types
of
approaches
as
well.
F
B
I
appreciate
that
Kurt
any
other
questions
or
comments.
B
Being
none
all
right,
well,
big
again,
thanks
to
Ali,
Joe,
Chief
and
officer
Redfern
as
well
for
contributing
to
that
conversation,
and
you
know
we'll
see
if
that's
something
that
CAC
wants
to
take
up
to
sort
of
circle
back
at
the
end
of
45
days.
B
So
we
can
sort
of
see
where
things
are
at
see
where
we
need
to
be
and
if
there's
any
follow-up
questions
but
I'll
leave
that
to
our
three
y
CAC
members
of
council
and
staff
to
decide
that
all
right
moving
on
at
Nuria
anything
else
from
staff.
Before
we
move
on
to
our
final
topic
on
preparation
for
our
County
conversation,
no.
E
Just
it
really
does
take
a
village,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
that
Sam's
team
so
appreciated,
and
we
will
work
with
CAC
on
if
there
is
a
desire
to
have
more
conversation
on
this
which
I'm
assuming
there
is
so.
B
Awesome,
thank
you
Maria.
So
as
we
move
into
our
last
topic
of
the
night
and
hopefully
those
conversations
and
presentations
we
had
helped
maybe
shape
some
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
look
at.
With
regards
to
our
conversation
with
the
county,
I
wanted
to
start
by
acknowledging
the
email
we
received
from
staff
that
relayed
some
potential
subjects
from
which
we
would
or
could
discuss
next
week
at
our
dinner
with
the
County
Commissioners.
B
As
a
reminder,
they
are
homelessness,
Regional,
Transportation,
racial
equity
and
Wildfire
mitigation,
and
clearly
you
know
I'd
like
to
just
offer
a
potential
solution
that
we're
not
you
know
having
to
straw,
pull
every
single
issue
to
figure
out
how
we
want
to
weight
them
and
go
down
that
path.
Otherwise,
I
would
be
using
ranked
Choice
voting
and
you
all
would
love
to
dive
into
that
ahead
of
the
2023
election.
B
B
Take
that
and
then
you
know
end
the
night
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
offer
maybe
an
amendment
to
those
recommendations
and
I
think
it's
really
based
on
starting
what
our
main
focus
for
asking
for
this
meeting
with
the
County
Commissioners
is,
which
was
to
discuss
homelessness
and
so
I
think
we
still
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
could
still
be
true
to
that,
and
so
perhaps
maybe
what
we
would
respond
with
is
maybe
spending
about
an
hour
still
at
homelessness,
be
the
main
subject
and
spending
about
an
hour
or
so
on
the
subject
of
homelessness,
but
not
forgetting
those
other
issues
and
maybe
asking
and
having
a
five
minute
update.
B
You
know
with
regards
to
you
know:
Regional
Transportation
and
racial
Equity,
work
and
Wildfire
mitigation,
but
still
allowing
us
to
take
the
bulk
of
the
time
to
discuss
the
main
issue
at
hand
which
is
sort
of
that
that
collaborative
and
partnership
between
the
county
and
the
city
and
really
figuring
out
where
those
gaps
are
and
and
where
we
can
really
divide
and
conquer
and
see
what
that
strategy
can
and
should
be
going
forward.
We're
not
going
to
solve
it.
B
Obviously,
at
the
dinner,
but
it
might
set
up
that
conversation
for
maybe
quarterly
conversations
or
more
updates
down
the
road
from
which
we
can
really
try
to
develop
a
cohesive
strategy
between
our
two
entities.
So
that's
my
idea
versus
nitpicking
on
which
one
it
was
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
to
Verity
guys
and
see
if
you're
interested
in
sort
of
having
that
division
of
subject
matter
at
our
dinner,
so
I
just
throw
that
out.
There
Tara.
L
Okay,
I
I
first
want
to
say
that
there's
no
such
thing
as
talking
about
something
for
five
minutes,
so
forget
that,
but
I
want
to
say
that
heavily
I'm
guessing
I
know.
This
is
for
me
heavily
on
my
mind.
Right
now
is
mental
health,
behavioral
health,
drug
addiction
and
you
know
homelessness
housing.
L
I
realize
that
Wildfire
mitigation
is
also
a
crisis,
but
right
now
for
me,
you
know
talking
about
those
other
subjects
and
how
we
can
figure
out
how
to
solve
some
of
these
problems
with
their
help
and
who
pays
for
what
is
really
important
and
to
me
the
most
important
thing
by
far
is
those
three
things:
mental
health,
drug
addiction
and
housing
and
homelessness.
So
I
think
we
I
don't
know
that
we
have
time
for
the
others
and
if
we
do
it
quarterly,
maybe
we
can
put
the
others
then.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
Tara
I
I
share
that
prioritization
as
well.
Thank
you
for
that.
Nicole
Lynn
Lauren.
D
Yeah
I,
just
I
just
wanted
to
offer
I
mean
this
topic
of
homelessness,
as
we've
seen
tonight
is
huge
right,
there's
so
many
different
things
there
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
know
as
we're
kind
of
passing
things
on
to
the
Commissioners
we're
noting
some
of
those
other
things
that
are
involved.
So
you
know
for
me:
it's
eviction
prevention.
It's
you
know
as
as
Tara
just
mentioned,
addiction,
mental
health
kinds
of
things,
affordable,
housing
right.
All
of
that
is
under
that
term
of
homelessness.
D
So
because
it's
such
a
big
term
I'm,
just
hoping
we
can
give
some
clarity
to
to
the
county
on
what
what
we're
looking
for
there,
because
I
don't
I,
don't
think
it's
just.
You
know
single
adult
homelessness,
for
example,
but
this
broader
umbrella
of
topics
so
I'm,
just
seconding,
some
of
the
Steph
Tara
said
and
and
I
think
it
all
still
touches
on
the
same
issue,
but
we're
being
more
clear
about
the
kinds
of
things
we're
looking
for.
B
Example,
Lauren
then
Aaron.
P
Yeah
I
agree
with
what
Nicole
and
Tara
just
said
and
I.
Think
part
of
it
too.
Is
you
know
transportation.
We
have
Dr
Cog
I,
believe
we
have
Wildfire
on
our
agenda
for
the
Consortium
of
cities,
so
particularly
where
we
have
other
venues.
You
know
if
there's
something
specific,
that
the
Commissioners
want
to
bring
forward
to
us
or
make
us
aware
of
that.
P
You
know
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
is.
But
but
you
know,
I
want
to
be
open
to
that.
But
I
agree
that
I
would
like
to
see
time
spent
on
what
Nicole
and
Tara
brought
up.
Also
for
me,
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
the
shelter
and
if
it
could
be
open,
you
know
for
24
hours
or
provide
gay
services
or
what
kind
of
like
how
that
space
is
going
to
be
evolving
too.
K
Yeah
I
agree
with
other
folks
that
that
the
issues
that
have
been
mentioned,
you
need
a
lot
of
time
right,
because
it's
not
just
about
homelessness
and
some
that
maybe
it
can
be.
We
can
come
back
to
them
say
about
homelessness,
housing
and
Human
Services
and
now
that's
even
bigger,
but
I
think
that
the
conversation
that
we
want
to
have
is
relatively
wide-ranging
in
terms
of
Matt's
idea
about
the
five-minute
thing
I.
K
So
you
know
we're
going
to
be
settling
in
and
you
know
eating
some
dinner
and
such
and
so
I
I
think
that
I've
heard
from
a
couple
of
County
Commissioners
that
they're
interested
in
sharing
with
us
some
of
the
other
stuff
where
we
have
areas
of
common
interest.
So
I
wonder
if,
rather
than
a
conversation,
if
we
could
say
hey
like
wildfire
mitigation,
for
example,
they
just
passed
that
tax.
K
If
they
could
give
us
a
five-minute
update
as
we're
you
know
getting
settled
and
starting
to
eat
about
their
plans
for
the
implementation
of
that
tax,
I
mean
I,
think
that
could
be
valuable
for
us
and
I
think
they'd
like
to
share
that
with
us.
So
if
we
maybe
have
just
not
conversations
but
one
or
two
additional
items
that
they
just
give
us
an
update
on
as
we're
getting
settled,
and
then
for
the
meat
of
our
discussion
or
the
vegetables,
depending
on
what
you're
eating
that
we
we
can
talk
about
this.
B
I
appreciate
that
Aaron-
and
you
know,
in
terms
of
where
that
list
is
of
things
right,
I
mean
this
is
a
map
of
thing
we're
not
going
to
solve
it
all.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
some
of
the
themes
that
I
heard
from
tonight
is
everyone
sort
of
brought
up
comments
and
from
staff
you
know,
certainly
with
single
homelessness
was
clearly
that
there
was
acute
needs
and
there
was
a
slide
I
believe
it
was
slide.
B
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
them
that
were
the
thing
and
so
who
who's
leading
that
who's,
who's,
who's,
supporting
who's,
leading
and
then
there's
some
where
one's
only
doing
it
and
the
other,
not
so
any
Clarity
on
that
covered
a
lot
of
those
issues,
so
I
think
that's
what
a
theme
I
heard
housing
transitional
housing
was
a
theme
that
we
also
heard
so
I
think
as
I'm
just
repeating
those
that
maybe
that's
where
those
concentrated
conversation
points
go
because
that's
where
I
think
we
were
cons,
we
were
very
interested
in
and
there
was
seemingly
some
some
pinch
points
with
regards
to
who
was
doing
what,
in
that
capacity
there
was
data
collection
and
sharing.
B
That
was
another
theme
and
then
also
sort
of
where's,
the
sister
city
integration
into
this
whole
plan
as
well
beyond
just
Longmont
and
Boulder
yeah.
Another
theme
was
certainly
with
regards
continued
to
housing.
You
know,
rents
and
and
helping
rent
with
family
homelessness,
as
well
as
housing
inventory
with
terms
of
three
bedroom
in
those
larger
bedrooms
that
can
support
families.
So
those
are
some
of
those
common
themes.
B
I
think
we
heard
that
I
think
are
great
questions
for
for
the
county,
and
so
hopefully
those
maybe
allow
us
to
have
a
little
bit
more
of
a
concentrated
discussion
on
those
parts
going
forward
versus
you
know
just
a
riffing
scatter
shot
for
for
a
bunch
of
times,
so
hopefully,
that'll
bring,
did
I
did
I
miss
anything
critical
I
just
want
to
in
terms
of
reviewing
some
of
those
main
themes.
That
was
clear.
B
Overlaps
or
connections
with
the
county
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
sort
of
hit
those
and
then
maybe
something
that
staff
can
help
synthesize
down
or
we
can
prepare
for
for
our
conversation
on
Tuesday,
so
just
check
in
with
you
all
to
make
sure
we
got
that
kind
of
mostly
succinctly
or
tightly
wrapped
up
I
see
half
nods
can't
tell
if
two
people
are
asleep.
B
E
Sorry,
I
I
will
Circle
back
with
our
company
partners
and
again
there
they
were
very
open
to
paring
down
or
changing
the
subject.
So
I
appreciate
your
input
as
they
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
what
was
on
their
mind,
but
I
am
hearing
housing,
housing,
inventory
sort
of
Upstream.
To
that
looks
to
prevent
homelessness.
There
is
a
tie-in
as
we
think
about
that.
E
I
am
hearing,
perhaps
some
mental
health
supports
and
what
is
being
done
in
that
Arena
and
that
I
think
ties
really
well
with
what
we
heard
of
today
with
that
behavioral
report
that
is
coming
out
and
then
I
also
heard
about
drug
addiction
or
substance
abuse
programs
and
what's
happening
there.
That
certainly
has
some
overlap
in
homelessness,
but
it
actually
is
much
broader
in
our
community
that
really
talks
about.
How
are
we
supporting
people?
E
So
hopefully
they
do
not
fall
into
homelessness,
so
am
I
getting
that
correct
with
perhaps
sorry
Aaron,
with
perhaps
an
initial
sort
of
tell
us
what
is
happening
on
with
the
Wildfire
tax
that
was
recently
passed.
B
So
if
we
want
to
get
to
homelessness,
I
suggest
you
eat
quickly.
Anyway,
Marie
you
said
it
more
succinctly
than
I.
Thank
you.
So
much
any
any
other
items
things
anybody
wants
to
bring
up
or
discuss.
Nicole
I
see
your
hand
go
for
it.
D
I
just
wanted
to
apologize
to
everybody
for
making
some
of
this
discussion
personal
by
bringing
up
our
Collective
home
values
as
an
example
of
the
wealth
in
our
community.
These
are
really
hard
topics
to
discuss
and
to
hold
and
I.
Don't
really
feel
like
I
handled
my
sadness.
Well
in
that
moment,
so
I
could
have
just
pointed
out.
The
average
home
value
in
our
city
is
over
a
million
dollars
and
left
it
at
that.
So
I
really
apologize
I
for
not
doing
better
tonight
and
please,
let
me
know,
reach
out
individually.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
Nicole
I
really
appreciate
that
anything
else
before
we
close
out
our
evening.
Yes,.
E
B
E
One
clarification
I
presume
in
in
the
past,
and-
and
you
forgive
me
because
I
have
not
been
a
part
of
these-
this
has
really
just
been
a
dialogue
amongst
our
elected
officials,
curious
if
there
is
some
amount
or
what
level
of
Staff
involvement
you
would
like
in
these
conversations
as
we
move
forward,
I
think
these
are
great
conversations.
I
think
frankly,
tonight
was
gave
you
a
lot
of
valuable
information
and
the
presentations
you
have
at
hand.
E
B
We
could
use
all
the
support
we
could
get.
I
I
mean
I'll,
just
speak
for
my
personal
perspectives,
see
colleagues
agree.
Yeah
I
mean
there
certainly
are
high
level,
the
directors
and,
and
certainly
those
that
are
that
are
doing.
The
work
would
be
just
great
support
to
make
sure
we
have
our
facts
right
and
that
we're
sort
of
focused
on
directly
those
issues.
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
service
to
us.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
Nuria!
Thank
you
to
staff,
thank
you
to
our
the
the
guests
that
joined
us
tonight
to
present
and
and
support
this
work
and
and
help
us
learn
more.
We
are
a
35
minute
past.
Our
slot
I
did
not
stay
true
to
my
commitment
to
run
that
tight
of
a
ship,
so
my
apologies
I
will
do
better
next
time
and
thank
you
all
so
much
for
a
great
night
have
a
good
weekend
and
we'll
be
reconvening
next
week,
good
night
y'all
thank.