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A
B
So
everyone
good
evening,
I'm
I'm
your
conductor
tonight.
So
it
looks
like
it's
six
o'clock
bob
will
not
be
joining
us.
Do
we
have
channel
eight?
Should
we
get
going
here.
B
Great
well
good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
january
26th
of
boulder
city
council
study
session.
I'm
erin,
brockett
I'll,
be
leading
the
meeting
tonight
I'll
be
doing
the
facilitation
before
we
get
into
the
meet
of
the
meeting.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
had
a
notice
of
tom
carr
gave
us
notice
that
he
will
be
retiring
a
few
months
from
now,
and
tom
would
just
want
to
take
a
minute
to
thank
you
for
all
of
your
years
of
service.
B
We
still
got
you
for
a
few
months
still,
fortunately,
but
you
know
congratulations
on
on
the
good
news
for
you,
but
sorry
for
where
the
the
the
loss
to
us.
So
I
just
I
want
to
thank
you
and
acknowledge
the
the
news
here,
thank
you
and
if
anyone
else
wanted
to
say
something
about
that
news
as
well,
please
feel
free.
F
I
would
thanks
so
much
tom
for
11
years
of
great
service.
It
was,
as
I
said,
to
the
paper-
I
remember
you
from
my
first
day
being
oriented
on
planning
board
and
it's
been
great
to
work
with
you
all
along
through
my
city
arc
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
all
the
great
work
you've
done
for
the
city
and
thanks
for
your
your
time.
Thank.
H
I
also
want
to
say,
on
a
personal
note-
I
probably
wouldn't
even
be
here
without
tom's
help
and
his
knowledge
about
the
city.
So
I
appreciate
everything
you've
done
for
me,
too
tom.
B
Thanks
erin-
and
there
will
be
time
for
many
more
words
before
before
you
head
out
the
door
in
a
few
months
here,
but
I
wanted
to
wanted
to
say
that
tonight.
So
thanks
all
right
thanks
again
all
right
and
before
we
dive
into
the
agenda,
I
did
want
to
mention
that
we
are
still
recruiting
for
boards
and
commissions,
but
not
for
much
longer.
You've
got
just
under
48
hours.
The
admissions
are.
The
submission
deadline
is
thursday,
the
28th
at
5
p.m.
B
So
if
you're
interested
in
volunteering
for
our
boards
and
commissions,
please
step
up
and
get
those
those
submissions
in
the
next
47
hours.
Okay.
So
now,
let's
move
into
our
agenda.
We've
got
three
items
tonight:
an
update
on
the
newer
program,
an
update
on
the
amps
parking
management,
parking
strategy,
implementation
and
also
an
alpine
balsam
update.
So
let's
get
going
with
the
newer
implementation.
J
Good
evening,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
presentation
is
pulled
up
great.
Thank
you
good
evening.
I'm
kristen
heiser
deputy
director
of
housing
and
human
services,
and
I
am
joined
tonight
by
karen
armstrong,
who's
program,
manager
of
the
housing
and
human
services,
community
mediation
and
resolution
center
to
help
inform
the
conversation
we're
joined
by
tom
carr,
the
city
attorney,
joel
wagner
from
finance
and
edward
stafford
with
planning
and
development
services.
Next
slide.
Please.
J
We
will
start
with
an
overview
of
the
ordinance
followed
by
review
of
the
implementation
plan
and
wrap
up
with
feedback
from
city
council.
Did
I
just
see
sam's
hand
jump
up,
nope?
Okay,
sorry
next
slide,
please
tonight
we
will
be
bringing
two
questions
to
city
council
number
one,
given
the
broad
range
of
services
available
to
provide
eviction
protections.
J
J
So
a
quick
look
back
ordinance
8412,
a
renter
driver
driven
initiative
was
approved
by
voters
in
november
2020,
affirming
boulder's
community's
commitment
to
becoming
a
welcoming,
inclusive
and
diverse
community
ordinance.
8412
establishes
a
rental
licensing
tax
to
operate
and
fully
fund
a
program
to
provide
housing
supports,
including
rental
assistance
and
legal
representation
to
tenants
at
risk
of
eviction.
J
The
revenues
generated
from
the
tax
will
support
the
administrative
costs
of
the
tax
and
the
program
provide
rental
assistance
for
persons
that
are
vulnerable
to
eviction
cover
all
costs
of
the
tenant's
legal
services
and
create
a
tenant
committee.
The
ordinance
calls
for
the
program
to
be
fully
implemented
12
months
after
the
effective
date
of
the
ordinance
next
slide.
Please.
J
Fortunately,
due
to
the
city's
long-time
commitment
to
providing
services
to
residents
experiencing
housing
instability,
many
elements
of
the
initiative
have
long
been
in
place
and
were
fortified
this
past
year
in
response
to
the
pandemic.
These
include
strategic
investment
of
local
and
federal
funds
to
address
housing
needs
of
community
members.
The
city
boulders
long-running
community
mediation
services,
which
was
founded
back
in
1981
specifically
to
address
landlord
tenant
concerns,
including
eviction
cities,
coordination
with
the
courts,
making.
J
Sure
information
and
resources
are
known
and
available
this
past
year,
that
looked
like
requiring
information
about
mediation,
services
being
provided
in
both
english
and
spanish.
When
cases
are
filed
and
summons
are
issued,
and
also
this
past
year,
we
saw
the
launch
of
the
housing
helpline,
which
was
stood
up
by
boulder
county
housing
and
human
services,
which
is
staffed
by
experienced
housing
and
human
service
experts
that
can
refer
people
to
rental
assistance,
community
mediation
and
legal
services
for
both
landlords
and
tenants,
as
well,
federal
and
state
action.
J
This
past
year
went
a
long
way
in
keeping
people
housed.
These
included
the
moratorium
on
evictions,
which
has
just
been
extended
to
march
31st
and
moratoriums
on
late
fees,
as
well
as
the
extending
the
usual
10-day
notice
to
cure
to
30
days,
while
a
variety
of
safeguards
have
long
been
in
place.
Standing
up,
the
eviction
prevention
services
program
has
provided
the
opportunity
for
the
city
to
align
shore
up
and
enhance
protections,
provides
civil
stability
for
both
tenants
and
landlords.
K
Thank
you,
kristen,
I'm
karen
armstrong
and
I'm
the
program
manager
for
community
mediation
and
resolution
center
housed
within
housing
and
human
services.
So
the
essential
services
of
this
new
program
include
rental
assistance,
mediation
services
and
legal
services
for
rental
assistance.
Non-Payment
of
rent
is
the
most
common
reason
for
eviction.
K
Ordinance
8412
ensures
that
tax
revenues
will
help
fund
rental
assistance
programs
through
the
city
and
community
partner
agencies.
Conversations
have
been
underway
with
community
partners
to
determine
what
are
the
best
access
access
points
for
these
rental
assistance
dollars,
most
likely
that
will
be
effa
the
boulder
county,
housing
helpline
and
the
city.
The
role
of
the
coordinator
will
be
to
assess
the
circumstances
of
the
tenant
and
provide
a
warm
handoff
to
the
assistance
provider
that
is
most
appropriate
to
meet
their
specific
needs.
K
So,
as
kristen
mentioned,
the
city's
mediation
services
is
a
program
under
housing
and
human
services
and
has
been
an
essential
service
at
eviction.
Court
for
nearly
40
years
experienced
mediators
with
eviction,
specific
training,
assist
landlords
and
tenants
to
reach
agreements
either
allowing
tenants
to
remain
housed
or
work
out
mutually
agreeable
terms
for
attendance
to
move
out
in
many
cases
avoiding
evictions.
K
On
the
tenant's
record
last
week,
the
courts
instituted
administrative
order
2108,
which
now
requires
landlords
and
tenants
to
participate
in
mandatory
mediation
prior
to
eviction
court,
so
mediation
will
most
certainly
continue
to
be
an
integral
part
of
the
eviction
prevention,
toolkit
and,
lastly,
legal
services.
So
the
city
has
entered
a
six-month
contract
with
bridge
to
justice,
to
provide
advice
and
legal
representation
to
tenants
who
are
at
various
stages
of
a
potential
eviction.
K
All
legal
advice
and
representation
will
be
provided
by
an
attorney
employed
or
contracted
by
bridge
to
justice.
This
initial
contract
for
50
000
will
provide
legal
services
in
the
immediacy
and,
as
the
program
evolves
over
the
next
six
months,
we'll
adjust
to
in
order
to
be
the
most
responsive
we
can
to
community
needs
next
slide.
Please.
K
K
Moving
down
on
this
chart
on
the
day
of
eviction
court,
the
eviction
prevention
coordinator,
two
attorneys
and
two
mediators
from
longmont
mediation
services
are
available
at
court.
Since
half
of
all
eviction,
cases
typically
involve
a
city
of
boulder
property
and
the
other
half
are
usually
outside
city
limits.
The
coordinator
first
determines
where
the
property
is
located,
so
eviction.
Defendants
in
the
city
of
boulder
rental
would
be
connected
with
an
attorney
through
this
program
and
those
outside
city
limits
would
meet
with
a
mediator.
First,
regardless
of
location.
K
K
So,
for
the
past
three
weeks
we
have
been
up
and
running
and
there
have
been
a
total
of
33
cases
on
the
docket,
and
that
is
low.
Due
to
the
current
eviction
moratoriums
of
those
33
cases,
there
were
only
four
cases
where
tenants
who
were
eligible
for
this
program
who
resided
in
a
city
of
boulder
property,
appeared
on
their
case.
So,
as
you
can
see,
many
tenants
do
not
appear
in
court.
K
The
mediation
program
recognizes
the
importance
of
encouraging
early
tenant
engagement,
and
there
have
been
ongoing
efforts
to
get
information
out
to
tenants
earlier
on.
We
hope
that
the
recent
process
changes
that
I've
mentioned
already.
The
mandatory
mediation
and
eviction
program
information
will
help
to
engage
more
tenants
with
our
services,
preventing
these
automatic
default
evictions
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
this
shows
the
combined
totals
of
clients
who
have
contacted
the
program
at
all
stages
of
the
eviction
process.
So
this
includes
the
four
tenants
that
you
saw
on
the
last
slide
at
court
and
eight
who
have
contacted
our
services
pre-court.
They
found
out
about
the
program
and
contacted
us,
so
you
can
see
in
the
center
of
the
diagram
here
that
three
clients
received
all
three
services.
They
receive
legal
mediation
and
rental
assistance
and
in
most
cases
you
can
see
it's
usually
a
combination
of
the
services.
K
I'll,
give
you
a
fairly
typical
scenario
that
we're
seeing
right
now,
where
tenants
have
fallen
behind
on
rent
due
to
the
economic
impacts
of
kovid.
In
a
recent
case
at
court.
The
coordinator
connected
tenants
in
one
of
these
cases,
with
an
attorney
who
advised
them
to
assert
their
current
protections.
Under
the
cdc
eviction
moratorium,
they
completed
a
cdc
affidavit
to
prevent
the
eviction
from
moving
forward
and
the
coordinator
connected
them
with
rental
assistance
through
the
boulder
county's
housing
hotline
to
get
them
back
on
track
with
rent
and
retain
housing.
K
It
is
it's
also
important
to
acknowledge
that
not
all
evictions
can
be
prevented
and,
in
certain
cases,
no
amount
of
rental
or
legal
assistance
will
fix
the
issue
at
hand
for
those
tenants
who
will
need
to
vacate
their
property.
Mediation
often
assists
both
sides
to
negotiate
terms
and
a
time
frame
to
move
out,
and
the
coordinator
can
connect
them
with
supportive
housing
services.
So
not
all
evictions
result
in
homelessness.
J
Okay,
thank
you
karen.
So
we're
going
to
transition
from
services
to
operations,
the
ordnance
established
an
annual
excise
tax
of
75
for
each
dwelling
unit.
That
is
required
to
have
a
rental
license
within
the
city
of
boulder.
It's
estimated
that
the
tax
will
initially
generate
approximately
or
upwards
of
1.5
million
dollars
annually,
because
this
is
a
new
tax
staff
is
in
the
process
of
researching
systems
and
options
for
the
collection
of
the
tax.
J
This
exploration
is
focused
on
minimizing
the
administrative
burden
for
rental
license
holders,
while
ensuring
efficient
collection
and
enforcement
as
work
continues
to
determine
the
process
and
mechanisms
for
collecting
the
tax,
and
the
city
is
committed
to
standing
up
the
program.
Now,
funding
is
needed
to
operationalize
the
program
before
revenue
is
generated,
so
you'll,
be
staff.
You'll,
see
staff
coming
to
council
in
february
to
request
an
advance
from
the
general
fund
reserves
to
support
the
launch
of
the
program.
J
As
for
the
administration,
housing
and
human
services
has
loaned
a
temporary
program
coordinator
to
launch
the
program
who
is
already
in
place
and
we
will
be
hiring
a
permanent
coordinator
as
soon
as
possible.
There
is
also
a
need
to
hire
two
staff
members,
one
permanent
and
one
temporary,
to
implement
the
tax
collection
process
and
support
long-term
administration
of
the
tax
along
with
salary
and
benefits.
There
will
be
a
general
operation
costs
that
the
tax
will
need
to
cover.
J
The
implementation
plan
also
includes
a
communication
strategy
prioritizing
reaching
renters
and
property
owners
and
landlords,
both
large
and
small
independents
to
share
all
there
is
to
know
about
the
resources
available
and
the
tax.
We
understand
the
implications
of
this
tax
on
landlords
and
are
prioritizing
them
in
our
outreach.
So
they
re
receive
this
information
sooner
rather
than
later,
to
make
informed
business
decisions
through
this
year.
J
J
So
what
is
ahead?
Over
the
last
couple
of
months,
we
have
prioritized
standing
up
the
availability
and
accessibility
of
services
to
make
sure
people
remain
housed.
The
full
implementation
of
the
program
will
continue
to
work,
continue
to
be
a
work
in
progress,
but
we
will
shift
our
focus
now
on
to
hiring
the
permanent
coordinator
continue
tweaking
the
ordinance
to
ensure
its
efficacy
finalize
and
commence
tax
collection
and
recruit
and
seek
the
tenant
committee.
This
will
all
be
informed
by
our
continued
outreach
to
the
community,
including
housing
providers,
renters
and
regional
partners
as
well.
J
So
speaking
of
the
tenant
committee,
with
immediate
focus
on
keeping
people
housed,
staff
has
prioritized
making
sure
the
services
are
ready
and
available.
Now
ordinance
8412
does
call
for
creation
of
a
tenant
committee
comprised
of
five
members,
but
the
ordinance
doesn't
specify
who
appoints
the
committee.
J
J
So,
wrapping
up
I'd
like
to
take
a
look
at
our
timeline
since
adoption.
Two
months
ago,
the
city
is
contracted
with
bridge
to
justice,
to
provide
legal
services,
we've
aligned
and
enhanced
our
existing
services,
we've
designated
a
phone
number
and
website
and
have
assigned
a
temporary
coordinator
throughout
2021.
J
B
A
A
What
do
we
anticipate
as
a
percentage
of
revenues
as
the
administrative
costs
for
this
program,
and
it's
really
a
two-part
question,
given
the
number
of
other
agencies
that
are
operating
in
this
space?
Are
there
things
we
can
do
to
make
it
administratively
less
expensive
so
that
we
have
more
money
available
for
other
rental
assistants
or
legal
services
for
attendance?.
D
Kristin,
can
I
answer
that
sir,
so
so
mark,
that's
an
excellent
question.
It's
one
we've
been
focused
on
our
whole.
Our
whole
plan
has
been
to
try
to
maximize
the
amount
of
dollars
that
are
available.
One
of
the
challenges
that
we're
exploring.
You
may
have
seen
that
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
money
in
administration
for
collecting
the
tax.
It's
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
this
tax
is
unprecedented.
We
don't
have
any
existing
ability
to
collect
this
tax.
D
We
have
no
relationship
with
these
tax
payers,
other
the
both
taxpayers
other
than
the
licensing,
so
we're
exploring
the
most
cost-effective
way
to
do
that.
The
other
thing
is
it's
a
relatively
small
tax
75
a
year.
So
this
is
one
of
those
areas
where
cost
of
enforcement
could
exceed
cost
of
collections.
I
see
joel
turned
his
camera
on,
so
we
have
not
determined
what
the
total
cost
of
administration
is.
We
we've
budgeted,
but
we're
still
working
through
ways
to
collect
the
tax
and
trying
to
find
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
do
that.
D
That
will
probably
be
the
most
expensive
part
of
the
administration.
We'll
also
have
to
hire
a
coordinator
right
now.
Jay
allen
is
doing
that
as
part
of
his
normal
duties
as
hhs.
We're
looking
to
see
ways
to
save
money
in
that
area,
but
still
we'll
have
to
do
that
under
the
ordinance.
Okay
and.
A
I
just
have
one
one
follow-up
question:
we
we
just
received
an
email,
I
think,
in
the
last
day,
from
mary
duvall
of
thistle
asking
for
an
exemption
from
the
tax.
A
I
do
not
know
at
the
moment
whether
that
such
a
thing
is
even
possible
before
we
get
to
the
question
of
whether
it
is
desirable
and
proper.
So
my
question,
my
first
question
is:
is
that
something
that
is
even
possible
under
this
statute.
D
So
mark
that's
a
there's,
a
two-party
answer
that
you
may
recall
that
that
was
a
question
that
came
up
in
august
when
you
were
or
september
when
you
were
just
discussing
putting
this
on
the
ballot.
The
the
the
charter
says
that
there
are
limitations
on
the
way
council
can
change
people's
ordinances.
This
is
not,
however,
what
I
would
call
a
people's
ordinance.
This
ordinance
was
was
put
on
the
ballot
by
council,
not
as
the
result
of
an
initiative
petition.
D
So
I
believe
you
do
have
some
leeway
to
alter
the
ordinance
to
to
as
long
as
it
stays
within
the
basic
intent.
Whether
or
not
you
exempt
non-profits
that
provide
affordable
housing
is
up
to
you,
and
the
question
of
whether
or
not
that
is
within
the
intent
of
the
ordinance
is
is
one
that
you'll.
That
is
more
of,
I
think,
a
political
policy
question
than
a
legal
one.
All
right.
D
J
I
would
just
like
to
follow
up
on
two
items.
Really
quick
is
that
when
it
comes
to
the
rental
assistance
as
you're
asking
about
that
one
of
the
things
that's
really
amazing
about
this
opportunity
or-
and
we
do
see
it
as
an
opportunity
as
the
city-
you
know-
I've
been
here
for
eight
years-
we've
never
had
a
rental
assistance
program.
J
We
do
provide
some
money
for
to
effa
traditionally
to
keep
families
house.
That's
very
much
focused
on
family
homelessness,
but
until
coven
hit
and
we
had
the
federal
funds
come
through
the
cbrf
funds.
We've
never
had
a
sturdy
steam,
a
stream
of
rental
assistance,
so
this
really
provides
us
moving
forward
to
having
a
program
that
we
will
continue
into
the
long
run
of
providing
rental
assistance.
So
that's
a
very
exciting
thing.
J
I
will
also
say
right
now:
we
are
relying
on
the
federal
funds
to
meet
those
rental
assistance
needs
in
the
community
through
the
cbrf
funds
that
we
allocated
this
past
year,
but
moving
forward
we'll
replace
those
and
work
with
our
partners
to
provide
rental
assistance.
Using
this,
this
particular
source
and
just
also
rounding
out
the
conversation
about
pistol
and
other
partners,
we
do.
We
have
started
to
engage
with
our
housing
partners.
J
Our
first
meeting
was
with
them
in
december
to
start
to
roll
out
kind
of
the
proposal
of
how
we
want
to
structure
this
and
implement
this,
and
we
are
going
to
continue
that
engagement
moving
forward,
and
so
we
have
been
in
communication
with
mary
and
the
soul.
We
will
continue
that
engagement.
F
Well,
mark
got
to
one
of
my
questions.
Thank
you
mark
and
then
the
other
one
is.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
kristen
that
I
understood
what
you
said.
I
know
that
in
the
memo
it
said
that
we
would
need
to
council
would
need
to
decide
who's
going
to
appoint
the
tenant
council.
J
To
be
honest,
we've
been
so
focused
on
standing
up
the
services
that
we
have
not
been
able
to
really
think
through
how
we
might
recommend
that.
So
our
intention
is
to,
if
you
want
to
provide
feedback
tonight,
to
inform
that
process
that'd
be
great,
but
we
do
intend
to
come
back
later
in
the
year
with
a
proposal
of
how
we
might
approach
that
and,
as
tom
said,
there
might
be
some
other
modifications
that
we
might
recommend
to
the
ordinance
with
the
intention
of
just
strengthening
it.
F
Okay,
very
good
and
I'll
just
ask
chris:
maybe
you
don't
need
to
answer
now,
but
you
might
think
about
whether
you
think
it's
appropriate
that
this
be
a
city
manager,
type
of
appointment
or
housing
and
human
services
or
whether
you'd
like
to
come
to
council.
So
that
was
my
only
issue
thanks.
G
Thank
you
aaron.
So,
during
the
presentation
kristen,
you
said
that
not
there
are
some
cases
in
which
no
amount
of
legal
assistance
or
rental
assistance
can
prevent
eviction,
and
I
was
curious
to
know
as
to
what
are
the
circumstances
under
which
those
cases
happen
and
also
you
said
I
missed
it,
and
I
apologize
for
that.
But
you
said
something
after
that
that
not
all
of
those
folks
become
homeless.
So
I
just
wanted
to
better
understand
that.
K
Yeah,
so
there
are
circumstances
where
a
tenant
is
being
evicted
and
the
the
reason
the
complaint
is
not
related
to
non-payment
of
rent.
It
may
be
that
the
lease
has
simply
expired
and
the
landlord
doesn't
wish
to
renew.
K
It
could
be
that
the
tenant
has
violated
the
lease
in
some
other
way,
having
nothing
to
do
with
rent,
and
it
may
be
that
there's
no
legal
challenge
or
legal
defense
to
those
situations
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
negotiating
a
time
frame
for
a
move
out
and
so
and
when
I
said
that
not
all
evictions,
so
even
when
a
tenant
does
have
to
vacate
the
unit
and
there's
still
safeguards
in
our
community
there's
housing
supports
and
the
coordinator
we're
working
at
building
in
more
case
management
to
this
position
as
well,
to
hopefully
support
folks
who
are
going
to
be
losing
their
housing,
their
current
housing
to
make
sure
that
they
have
a
smooth
transition
to
to
a
new
housing.
D
May
I
add
a
little
bit
mary,
please
tom,
the
what
david
gear
and
I
interviewed
a
bunch
of
lawyers
who
do
this
for
a
living
as
we
went
through
this
and
one
of
the
things
we
learned
was
that
even
for
a
non-payment
of
rent
case,
even
the
best
lawyer
can't
really
necessarily
win
at
trial.
If
the
only
issue
was
was
rent
paid
so
and
taking
a
case
to
trial
can
actually
end
up
hurting
the
tenant,
because
a
judgment
for
a
vic,
an
eviction
on
the
tenant's
record
can
make
it
harder
to
get
them
re-housed.
D
So
what
we've
learned
is
that
lawyers
can
help
and
they
do
help
in
a
lot
of
cases.
Sometimes
the
notice
is
defective.
Sometimes
there
isn't
enough
notice.
Sometimes
I
don't
serve
the
notice.
There
are
a
lot
of
technical
things.
Lawyers
can
do
to
help,
but
actually
trying
to
defeat
an
eviction
when
the
the
landlord
has
a
right
under
law
to
retain
the
property
is
really
difficult
and
can
be
counterproductive,
which
is
why
the
work
that
karen
is
doing
and
the
the
idea
that
we're
getting
people
the
assistance
to
help
them
get
housed.
G
Thank
you
tom
and
then
my
next
question
was
is
about,
and
this
is
this
is
hearsay,
so
I
may
be
completely
off,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
have
heard
of
that
happens
with
people
with
some
landlords
is
that
they
present
them
with
notices
that
look
like
eviction
notices,
but
they
really
aren't,
and
so
it
can
be
kind
of
misleading
or
intentionally
misleading
or
confusing
or,
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
anything
that
these
funds
can
do
to
address
that
if,
in
fact
that's
true.
K
I
guess
I
can
go
ahead
and
respond
to
that.
So
I
haven't
heard
of
like
a
fake
eviction
notice.
There's
some
notices
that
are
are
given.
Sometimes
tenants,
don't
know
what
type
of
notice
they've
received,
there's
usually
a
10-day
notice.
That
starts
the
process
and
it's
not
actually
an
eviction
notice
but
alerting
the
tenant
to
that
they
need
to
fulfill
their
obligations
or
leave
the
unit
and
sometimes
tenants
think
that
is
an
eviction
notice.
K
So
I
don't
know,
but
if
somebody
were
to
come
to
our
office
with
that
type
of
saying
that
they
have
an
eviction
notice,
we
would
immediately
that
qualifies
as
an
imminent
eviction
and
we
would
connect
them
with
legal
services
to
determine
what
type
of
notice
they
received
and
try
to
sort
that
out.
K
G
J
They
would
qualify
for
legal
services.
We
are
working
through
with
the
rental
assistance
at
this
point
we
are
intending
for
that
to
be
need-based
just
because
there's
a
finite
amount
of
money
and
if
an
individual
is
financially,
you
know
in
the
income
qualified
qualifications,
while
we're
still
working
out
some
of
the
details
with
our
partners.
J
That
is
our
intention
so
well,
everybody
will
qualify
for
legal
representation
as
well
as
community
mediation.
As
for
a
financial
assistance
that
would
be
be
based.
Thank
you.
B
Great
thanks
I'll
call
on
myself
now
and
actually
I'll
start
with
a
follow-up
to
what
mary
just
asked.
You
mentioned
the
need
qualification
for
the
rental
assistance
and
I
certainly
understand
the
desire
to
do
some
of
that.
But
will
we
make
allowances
for
like
crises
or
change
in
circumstances
like
maybe
last
year
your
income
was
healthy,
but
now
you're
in
june.
You
lost
your
job
in
january
and
you
really
are
having
tough
financial
time.
So
how
will
we
handle
kind
of
cases.
J
One
of
the
other
benefits
of
this
source
is
that
it
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
the
strings
that
are
attached
to
our
federal
resources,
for
example,
and
so
it
could
provide
us
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
be
thoughtful
about
that.
So
as
of
right
now,
we
are
looking
at
maybe
some
income
limitations,
but
also
calling
out
if
somebody
has
a
medical
emergency
or
a
loss
of
a
job
or
you
know,
circumstances
are,
you
know,
impacting
the
situation
and
then
also
we
would
like
many
of
our
programs.
J
We
would
have
some
sort
of
ability
to
take
into
other
things
into
consideration
and
make
exceptions,
but
right,
though,
flexibility.
B
Worked
out
good
next
question
is
so
I
know
you
mentioned
that
we
are
going
to
have
property
owners,
give
notice
to
tenants
about
the
existence
of
this
program,
and
can
you
just
walk
me
through
what
the
opportunities
are
for
that
to
happen
where
it'll
be
required
and
what
the
touch
points
are
with
people
who
are
facing
these
difficulties.
K
Karen,
do
you
want
me?
Well,
the
ordinance
provides
that
that
the
landlord
include
notice
about
this
ordinance
and
at
least
disclosure,
so
that's
a
form
that
is
utilized
widely
by
landlords,
most
landlords.
If
they're
they
have
their
rental
license,
they.
They
should
know
about
the
requirement
of
the
lease
disclosure,
and
so
we've
updated
that
and
that's
live
and
available.
K
So
that
is
ideally
one
touch
point.
We're
going
to
be
doing
community
outreach
to
ensure
that
all
of
our
community
partners
are
aware
of
this
program
and
we've
already
been
getting
referrals
from
community
partners,
so
the
logical
places
where
a
tenant
might
go
to
receive
assistance
if
they're
in
trouble
we'll,
hopefully
be
fully
aware
of
our
program
and
refer
and
then,
if
they
don't
find
out
about
it
beforehand,
and
they
are
facing
an
eviction
that
they
should
receive
information
about
the
program
in
the
summons.
K
B
So
that
they'll
get
a
notice
in
the
summons
right,
so
that's
part
of
the
program
right.
What
about
that
that
that
notice
that
you
mentioned
that
starts
the
process.
That's
not
an
actual
eviction
notice.
Do
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
tenants
provided
with
the
information
at
that
point,.
K
That's
a
10-day
notice
and
that's
that's
under
state
law.
That's
not
something!
That's
under
the
jurisdiction
of
of
the
city
tom.
Do
you
have
any
other
thoughts
on
that.
D
I
don't
think
we
can
affect
those
notices,
aaron,
and
I
think
this
is
you've
you've
hit
on
one
of
the
most
challenging
parts
of
this
is
getting
people
the
information
that
they
need
when
they're
in
crisis-
and
karen
has
has
done
some
really
excellent
work
in
that
area
and
we've
actually
started
to
get
more
phone
calls
than
we
were
getting
before
so
some
of
it's
paying
off
they.
Actually,
I
wasn't
three
or
four
people
before
last.
Friday's
calendar
actually
contacted
the
office
beforehand,
which
is
unusual
so
you're
exactly
right.
K
I
do
also
want
to
mention
and
give
a
shout
out
to
barha.
They
do
an
excellent
job
of
making
sure
that
landlords
have
this
type
of
information
and
they
do
encourage
their
landlords
if
they
are
going
to
be
serving
a
10-day
notice
to
include
information
about
local
resources.
B
Great
okay,
very
good
and
tom,
when
you
said
aaron's,
been
doing
great
work.
That's
aaron,
poe
city
attorney
correct.
No
karen
yeah,
karen,
oh
karen,
I
heard
aaron
all
right.
I
guess
I
just
I
hear
my
name
and
everything
I
guess.
Okay
last
question.
So,
okay,
so
we're
we're
still
figuring
out
the
timeline
for
the
tax
implementation,
and
you
know
we
we've
heard
from
thistle
and
I've
heard
from
others.
You
know
about
that.
There
may
be
some
budgetary
difficulties,
particularly
in
this
first
year,
right
where
nobody
was
necessarily
planning
about
this.
B
If
they
weren't
following
closely
weren't
sure
it
was
gonna
pass.
Are
we
gonna
consider
maybe
in
this
in
this
initial
rollout?
Maybe
a
payment
plan
option?
You
know
that
maybe
we
start
a
little
staggered
or
something
like
that
to
since
people
didn't
have
as
much
notice
about
it
this
year.
L
Hi
joel
wagner
tax
and
special
projects
manager,
and
thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
it's
it's
a
frankly
a
really
good
consideration
that,
as
we
were
starting
to
look
at
this,
wasn't
as
much
on
our
radar,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
our
partners
at
barha
and
others
of
for
bringing
this
up
the
just
to
give
a
idea
of
the
scope
there
about
9
500
licenses
in
the
for
rental
house.
Housing
licenses
here
in
the
city
of
boulder,
about
87
to
8.
800
of
them
are
duplexes
or
single-family
homes
or
condominiums.
L
So
you
know,
frankly,
as
we're
thinking
about
the
administrative
burden
of
this.
Our
our
minds
were
thinking
about
the
individual
taxpayers,
but
as
we're
going
through
this
planning.
That
is
one
of
the
things
we're
definitely
considering,
regardless
of
the
effective
date
of
the
tax,
at
which
point
you
had
a
license,
and
you
would
owe
the
tax
we
are
looking
at
options,
but
to
potentially
delay
the
payments
of
that
for
larger
taxpayers.
L
You
know
for
an
individual,
my
neighbor
across
the
street,
who
has
one
license
a
75
fee,
is
not
going
to
be
that
much.
But
you
know
thousands
or
potentially
tens
of
thousands
is
going
to
be
significant.
So
we're
definitely
going
to
take
that
in
consideration.
Great.
B
H
D
B
So
great:
well,
if
we
don't
have
any
other
questions
for
staff
staff
has
questions
for
us.
So
do
we
want
to
bring
those
up
the
presentation
back
up,
so
we
can
get
those.
B
So
staff
has
questions
about
the
name.
The
current
working
name
is
eviction
prevention
services.
Do
we
have
nominations
for
others.
B
F
Yeah,
the
only
problem
I
have
with
eviction
being
the
only
functional
word
here
is:
we've
also
tried
to
focus
on
rental
support
earlier,
so
I
I
would
be
happy
with
rental
support
and
eviction
prevention
services,
just
something
that
also
references
that
it's
not
just
about
eviction
interventions,
but
it's
also
about
rental
support.
A
I
actually
like
the
shorter
version,
but
I'm
happy
to
go
with
sam's
version
as
well.
Either
one
would
be
fine.
B
G
Thanks
aaron
yeah,
I'm
gonna
throw
out
a
name
just
to
see
if
it
sticks,
housing
retention.
B
C
Well,
no
strong
ones
here,
but
you
know
in
that
the
origin
of
this
was
eviction
representation.
It
just
feels
like
we're
getting
a
little
far
away
from
that,
like
we
don't
have
anything
about
representation
in
there.
If
we
take
eviction
out,
then
it's
a
little
diluted,
so
whatever
it
is,
should
should
make
sure
that
people
can
understand
the
the
big
benefit
that
that
we're
talking
about
which
I
think
largely
is
eviction
representation.
B
F
This
is
just
to
mary's
idea.
My
only
challenge
with
that
is
retention,
housing
retention,
kind
of
makes
it
sound
like
we're
wanting
to
focus
on
having
housing
not
be
destroyed
so,
and
I
kind
of
agree
with
rachel
as
well.
I
would
like
eviction
prevention
to
be
in
the
name
at
the
very
least,
because
that
way,
people
who
are
looking
at
the
name
of
the
service
will
clearly
know
that
they
can
go
here
for
avoiding
eviction
if
possible.
So.
B
G
H
Yeah,
I'm
gonna
dig
into
my
personal
background
here
and
use
my
marketing
degree.
I
definitely
think
it's
important
that
eviction
is
a
word
in
it
simply
because
that's
what
people
are
gonna
be
looking
for
help
with
and
when
you're
looking
on
any
you
know,
google
search
you
want
to
have
the
the
primary
word
in
there.
So
I
think
that's
super
important.
B
Yeah
now
I'll
just
weigh
in
I,
I
guess
the
I
kind
of
like
the
you
know.
No
eviction
without
representation
is
a
snappy
name
and
people
work
hard
on
it,
but
it
does.
It
is
just
about
eviction
prevention
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
a
mention
of
the
the
rental
assistance.
So
maybe
that
earlier
suggestion
about
eviction,
prevention
and
rental
assistance
program,
something
like
that.
B
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
hands
at
some
point.
We
kind
of
need
a
straw
poll
or
something
to
figure
out
what
people
want
to
which
direction
people
want
to
go.
Sam.
F
M
Thank
you
aaron.
I
do
like
your
your
audition
event:
eviction,
prevention
and
rental
assistance
services.
I
think
he
didn't
come
past
everything
we
want
to
say
that
we
offer
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
that
people
know
you
know
if
they
want
help,
here's
where
they
can
go,
and
I
think
even
just
with
the
title
can
you
know,
give
people
idea
on
how
to
reach
us.
So
I
think
that's
great.
B
Okay,
great-
and
I
got
to
give
credit
mark-
was
the
one
who
first
raised
that
so
we've
heard
a
few
positive
things
about
that.
Maybe
does
anyone
prefer
a
different
one
that
they
would
like
to
speak
up
for
a
different
approach
at
this
point.
B
C
B
Very
good,
okay
thanks.
We
got
that
one
polished
off
and
now
the
city
council
agree
with
staff's
direction
or
have
input
on
the
program,
design
and
process.
So
I'll
take
people's
comments.
We
can
probably
remove
the
presentation
now,
so
we
can
see
people
better
who
has
comments
on
direction
and
design
and
process
mary
then,
sam.
G
Yeah,
I'm
sure
you're
already
doing
all
of
this,
but
I'll
just
bring
it
up
anyway.
One
is
because
they
are
city
funds,
I'm
assuming
that
they're
available,
regardless
of
your
documentation,
status,.
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
other
one
is
that
everything
will
be
available
in
languages
other
than
english.
J
That
is
correct.
We
we
are
working
towards
that
right
now.
If
you
go
to
the
website,
it
is
in
english,
but
we
are.
That
is
our
list
of
things
to
do
in
the
immediacy.
J
J
Very
closely
with
the
community
connectors
as
we
roll
this
out,
so
that
we
have
a
pretty
robust
strategy
to
reach
all
parts
of
our
community.
F
Mostly
just
going
to
be
super
complimentary
of
staff,
I
am
so
impressed
with
how
quickly
you
stood
this
program
up.
I
mean
we
only
had
it
pass
in
november
and
gave
you
the
thumbs
up
and
an
ordinance
to
support
shortly
after
that.
So
thank
you
for
getting
this
done
so
quickly.
I
also
really
appreciate
the
the
balance
support.
It's
obviously
better
if
we
can
assist
people
with
mediation
and
rental
support
prior
to
going
into
eviction,
because
what
we've
heard
all
along
is
that
once
you're
in
eviction
proceedings,
it's
really
hard
to
reverse
those.
F
So
I
think
this
is
all
headed
in
the
right
direction.
I
also
want
to
do
a
shout
out
to
the
proponents
of
this
measure.
It
was
ultimately
put
on
the
ballot
by
city
council,
but
all
the
heavy
lifting
was
done
by
the
people
who
brought
this
forward.
So
thank
you
to
the
newer
folks
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
being
so
responsive
with
it.
I
look
forward
to
this
program
continuing
and
evolving
for
many
years.
B
B
So
I'm
very,
very
glad
it's
gotten
off
the
ground
so
quickly,
and
I
just
had
one
comment
which
was
about
the
tenant
committee
just
in
the
in
the
memo
it
mentioned,
potentially
having
those
people
appointed
in
march
of
2022
as
part
of
the
next
sporting
commission
cycle,
and
I
just
said
I'd
love
to
see
that
created
earlier.
So
I
think
that,
as
the
program
is
forming
would
be
a
great
time
to
get
input
from
a
attendance
committee.
I
think
their
voices
could
be
really
helpful
as
we're
developing
the
program.
B
So
you
know
obviously
there's
no
time
before
this
set
of
appointments,
but
whether
that
is
done
by
the
city
manager
or
whether
it's
done
by
city
council.
I'd
recommend,
you
know
maybe
mid-year
in
21
rather
than
waiting
until
march
of
22,
and
you
know
we,
I
guess
we
can
figure
out
who
appoints
them
in
a
few
months,
but
I'd
love
to
see
it
happen
in
more
like
six
months
rather
than
you
know,
14..
G
You
want
to
finish
harry
no,
that
was
it
go
ahead.
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah,
that,
with
respect
to
the
standing
up
of
the
committee,
I
think
that
the
way
that
the
health
equity
fund
committee
is
done
is
works
pretty
well.
I
occasionally
look
at
who's
on
the
committee
and
it's
really
well
balanced
in
terms
of
representation,
so
whatever
methodology
you're
using
there,
I
think
that
would
likely
work
very
well
here.
J
That
is
appointed
by
the
city
manager
staff,
bring
recommendations
to
the
city
manager
for
appointment.
B
Yeah-
and
I
can
imagine
it
working
that
way
as
well:
okay,
any
last
thoughts
from
council.
B
Seeing
none
I'll
give
another
huge,
thank
you
to
staff
and
and
also
another
shout
out
to
the
the
newer
organizers
for
the
amazing
work
they
did
this
last
year
and
bringing
this
measure
to
us
and
and
campaigning
for
getting
it
passed
so
good
work
all
round,
and
with
that,
shall
we
move
on
to
our
next
item
about
amps
and
parking.
I
Yeah
as
we
swap
out
staff
here
for
this
next
item,
first
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
chris
haglin
from
our
transportation
and
mobility
department
and
then
he's
gonna
pass
it
over
to
chris
jones
from
transportation
and
mobility.
So
we
now
have
three
chris's
here,
so
don't
hesitate
to
use
last
names
as
we
begin
our
presentation
here
so
with
that,
I
will
pass
it
over
to
chris
haglin.
N
All
right,
thank
you,
chris
m
good
evening,
mayor
and
council.
My
name
is
chris
haglin
senior
transportation,
planner
and
currently
also
the
acting
manager
of
the
city's
transportation
planning
division,
and
I
am
joined
as
chris
mastruck
mentioned
by
chris
jones,
who
is
our
deputy
director
of
community
vitality
with
us
tonight
also
is
mallory
baker
and
andrew
the
door
of
walker
consultants
who
are
assisting
with
this
project,
and
they
are
here
and
available
for
questions.
N
As
many
of
you
know,
amps
is
short
for
access
management
and
parking
strategies,
and
this
is
an
ongoing
cross-departmental
effort
with
staff
from
community
vitality,
transportation,
mobility,
planning
and
development
services
and,
in
the
case
of
parking
pricing,
since
we're
doing
also
parking
violations,
the
municipal
courts
under
the
amps
program.
There
are
a
variety
of
projects
and
programmatic
efforts
underway
aimed
at
improving
multimodal
access
and
managing
parking
demand
across
our
city
next
slide.
Please,
we
have
created
the
following
agenda
for
this
evening
study
session.
N
Following
a
brief
overview
of
amp's
efforts,
we
will
describe
for
you
the
framework
of
this
project,
which
is
focused
on
the
neighborhood
parking
permit
program
and
parking
pricing.
We
are
going
to
begin
with
the
npp
and
have
a
discussion
and
then,
following
that
discussion,
we'll
move
on
to
parking
pricing,
but
please
keep
in
mind.
We
do
have
90
minutes
for
this
item
for
you
tonight.
N
We
will
also
be
sharing
with
you
goals
and
some
key
findings
that
have
been
identified
during
the
existing
conditions,
phase
of
the
project
and
then
finally,
we're
going
to
move
ahead
and
describe
the
next
steps
in
the
project
and
asking
you
questions
to
gather
your
input
and
advice
next
slide.
Please
amps
in
the
projects
under
its
umbrella
are
ultimately
guided
by
a
set
of
planning
documents
that
provide
a
policy
framework
and
a
set
of
objectives
to
fulfill
the
vision
for
our
community.
N
These
documents
include
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan
with
which
outlines
land
use
policies
and
the
vision
for
our
community
and
broader
region.
The
sustainability
framework
covers
our
environmental
and
resilient
policies
and
objectives
related
to
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
responding
to
climate
change.
N
Next
slide.
Please
all
of
those
documents
have
informed
and
shaped
the
amp's
strategy.
To
this
point,
the
amp's
guiding
principles
which
were
adopted
by
city
council
in
2017
include
that
in
boulder,
our
residents,
our
employees,
our
visitors,
use
a
wide
variety
of
transportation
options
in
our
community
and
we
need
to
plan
to
provide
access
for
all
modes
and
all
people.
N
N
We
need
policies
and
programs
that
not
only
improve
transportation
access,
but
also
meet
our
economic
vitality
and
environmental
goals
and,
of
course,
in
our
fast,
changing
and
very
unpredictable
world.
As
we
know
over
the
last
few
months,
we
need
to
plan
for
the
present
and
adapt
to
the
future
social,
environmental,
technological
and
economic
changes
next
slide.
Please.
N
This
chart
provides
some
examples
of
the
variety
of
projects
that
are
underway
under
the
amps
umbrella.
Our
chautauqua
access
and
management
program
is
our
annual
parking
management
and
free
shuttle
service
to
chautauqua,
from
memorial
day
to
labor
day
for
our
city,
governor
government
offices
and
the
main
civic
library
area,
we
implement
implemented
a
new
parking
management
strategy
and
a
very
successful
parking
cash
out
program
for
city
employees
under
amps
staff
continues
to
work
on
parking
code
changes,
but
this
work
has
unfortunately
been
delayed
due
to
staff
reductions
in
planning
and
development
services.
N
This
parking
code
change
work
is
also
linked
to
a
potential
new
transportation
demand
management
ordinance
for
new
developments,
which
seeks
to
mitigate
impacts
on
the
surrounding
transportation
system.
From
new
development,
the
final
two
projects
are
what
we're
here
to
discuss
with
you
tonight
and
those
include
parking
pricing
and
the
neighborhood
parking
permit
program,
and
with
that
I
will
turn
it
over
to
chris
jones
of
community
vitality.
E
Thank
you,
chris
haglin
and
good
evening
council.
As
chris
indicated,
the
chart
indicates,
community
vitality
is
taking
the
lead
on
two
components
of
amp's
implementation,
parking
pricing
and
the
neighborhood
parking
permit
review.
So
I'm
going
to
share
the
work
that
we've
been
up
to
so
far,
and
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
yvette,
bowden
and
erica
vandenbrand
are
also
on
the
call
here
to
help
answer
questions,
as
this
is
a
joint
transportation
and
mobility
and
community
vitality
effort.
E
E
E
Promote
equity,
preserve
neighborhood
character,
reduce
vehicle
congestion
and
excessive
circulation
and
improve
the
experience
for
all
travel
choices.
The
public
right-of-way,
including
the
curb,
serves
many
functions
and
offers
significant
value
to
the
community,
seeking
the
highest
and
best
value
for
the
curb
is
essential.
We've
seen
this
in
the
pandemic.
The
demand
for
the
curb
is
always
changing.
We've
got
folks
out
in
outdoor
dining,
which
is
a
use
that
we
have
not
traditionally
seen,
and
it's
just
one
more
demand
that
we
can
realize
that
there
is
value
in.
E
We
also
know
that
neighborhood
specific
parking
solutions,
solutions
such
as
the
mpp
program,
help
shape
outcomes
that
meet
the
unique
needs
of
specific
areas
and
communities.
Parking
pricing
is
a
key
part
of
any
access
management
strategy.
It
can
help
support
and
encourage
travel
choices
outside
the
personal
vehicle,
create
more
equitable
distribution
of
parking
across
resources
and
support
our
sustainability
goals.
E
E
All
this
effort
is
really
focused
on
our
key
outcomes
of
developing
a
firm
decision
on
the
future
structure
of
the
mpp
program
and
adopting
a
parking
pricing
strategy
for
both
on
and
off
street
facilities
and
a
fine
structure
that
we
will
incorporate
into
our
2022
budget
proposals.
So
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
our
progress
on
this
work
done
in
the
first
couple
quarters
of
this
year,
because
we
want
council
to
be
able
to
consider
possible
impacts
to
the
2022
budget
successfully.
E
These
are
some
metrics
on
who
we've
been
hearing
from
so
far
in
our
process
and
it'll
continue
to
change
throughout
the
months
ahead,
but
we're
really
pleased
to
say
that
we've
had
over
1500
unique
visitors
to
our
digital
hub.
More
than
400
of
those
users
have
participated
in
our
quick
polls
and
150,
or
about
150.
E
Visitors
have
participated
in
a
longer
questionnaire
that
does
take
up
to
10
minutes,
and
we
asked
some
specific
questions
on
motivations
around
parking
and
access
and
I'll
share
some
results
on
that
as
well.
We
also
have
an
opportunity
for
unique
discussion
as
far
as
demographics
we've
been
closely
tracking
them
according
to
goals
set
by
our
public
engagement
process
and
our
racial
assessment
tool.
E
We've
been
targeting
social
media
advertisements
meetings
and
more
to
increase
inclusivity
and
hear
from
audiences
that
are
not
represented
yet
or
traditionally
underrepresented,
and
so
we're
really
proud
to
say
that
so
far
from
self-reporting
about
20
percent
of
our
participants
are
minorities.
We
have
a
good
number
of
folks
who
are
under
25
a
group-
that's
typically
hard
to
reach,
especially
with
cu
students
being
away
for
much
of
this
process
so
far,
and
then
27
of
our
participants
so
far
are
renters
and
that's
a
demographic,
that's
impacted,
particularly
by
our
decisions
in
the
neighborhood
program.
E
So
we're
really
glad
to
report
that
we've
got
some
good
representation
there
as
well
so
far
our
feedback
to
date.
We're
really
pleased
to
say
that
our
collaboration
has
focused
not
just
on
user
experience.
We
all
know
that
everyone
has
an
opinion
about
parking,
no
matter
where
you
are
at
in
the
country,
but
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
input
based
on
foundational
ideas
related
to
parking
and
transportation
of
man
management.
E
We
know
that
from
what
we've
heard
so
far,
that
improving
the
experience
of
travel
choices
like
walking,
biking
and
transit
are
seen
by
collaborators
as
the
most
important
most
important
parking
management
goal.
62
percent
of
our
collaborators
so
far
think
it
makes
sense
for
public
parking
to
cost
more
in
the
busiest
areas
of
town
or
at
the
busiest
times.
E
Seventy
percent
to
date
disagree
with
the
idea
that
public
parking
should
be
prioritized
over
other
potential
uses
of
the
public
right-of-way,
and
the
desire
of
the
community
is
to
encourage
other
travel
choices
and
that's
seen
as
the
number
one
factor
in
determining
in
determining
the
price
of
parking.
E
All
that
said,
we
have
received
feedback
from
from
folks
that
they
recognize
that
price
pricing
approaches
should
consider
the
needs
of
price
sensitive
community
members,
so
that
will
still
certainly
be
a
guide
for
us
moving
forward.
Our
collaborators
clearly
see
the
link
between
parking
management
and
improving
experience
for
other
travel
choices,
and
they
want
to
strengthen
this
link.
They
understand
and
support,
demand
based
pricing
and
know
that
higher
demand
means
higher
value.
E
They
support
prioritizing
active
travel
and
transit
access
over
parking
in
all
areas
of
the
city
and
they
understand
and
support
the
inherent
link
between
parking
pricing
and
the
desire
of
the
community
to
encourage
other
travel
choices,
so
we've
also
been
meeting
with
boards
and
commissions
since
november.
We
met
with
downtown
management
commission
first
then
moved
on
to
boulder
junction
access,
district
commissions,
planning
board,
then
university
hill,
commercial
area
management,
commission
and
finally,
the
transportation
advisory
board
in
december.
E
E
Today,
and
then
we
asked
for
input
on
next
steps,
so
that
leads
us
to
our
study
session
with
you
all
this
evening
and
our
objectives
for
tonight.
E
As
I
mentioned,
we
want
to
chat
with
council
and
on
a
review
of
our
key
findings
and
our
stated
draft
project
goals
that
were
included
in
your
memo,
and
we
specifically
want
to
get
some
feedback
on
how
council
would
prioritize
the
roles
of
quantitative
data,
generalized
community
input
or
qualitative
data
and
our
broader
city,
long-term
goals
for
both
neighborhood
parking
management
and
parking
pricing
and
bind
strategy.
E
The
input
that
we
receive
from
council
tonight
will
be
used
to
both
to
confirm
and
or
adjust
our
planned
engagement
and
project
timeline,
as
well
as
inform
our
strategy
development
moving
forward.
So
we're
going
to
be
developing
strategies
further.
That
we'll
then
take
back
to
the
community
boards
and
commissions
and
then
ultimately
come
back
to
council
with
some
some
more
developed
options.
Moving
forward
later
this
year,.
E
As
far
as
the
neighborhood
parking
management
program
currently
goes
an
overview
of
our
existing
conditions,
the
program
was
initiated
in
1994
and
has
had
very
limited
updates.
Since
then,
we
offer
three
types
of
permits
in
our
neighborhoods.
We
have
the
residential
permit,
which
is
17
per
year,
and
with
that
it
offers
two
free,
visitor
and
guest
passes.
These
these
passes
are
for
friends
and
family
who
are
seeking
to
park
in
the
residential
zone
or
for
service
workers,
landscapers
contractors
who
want
to
be
able
to
park
in
a
neighborhood
zone
without
threat
of
a
ticket.
E
E
There
are
currently
13
neighborhood
zones
where
parking
is
restricted
generally
through
time
limits,
so
anyone
is
allowed
to
park
in
our
mpp
zones,
there's
just
a
time
restriction,
and
so
our
parking
enforcement
officers
are
looking
for
for
violators
who
don't
have
permits
who've
parked
for
longer
than
the
designated
time.
E
These
zones
have
been
created
through
a
community-led
petition
process,
followed
by
city
review,
and
so
all
of
that
leads
to
where
we're
at
with
the
current
program
and
the
number
of
zones
that
we
have
and
our
cost
recovery,
where
we
currently
are
recovering
less
than
50
percent
of
what
it
takes
to
to
run
this
portion
of
our
parking
and
access
program.
E
Some
key
findings
from
the
the
data
collection
and
further
analysis
and
and
conversations
with
with
folks
who
are
involved
with
the
mpp,
is
that
we
know
that
the
mpp
program
focuses
on
achieving
objectives
that
were
developed
at
its
inception.
So
this
includes
protecting
and
preserving
residential
neighborhoods,
but
is
not
necessarily
consistent
with
some
of
our
adopted
master
planning
documents
that
suggest
some
broader
goals
for
neighborhood
parking
and
access,
such
as
customizing
strategies
to
meet
the
unique
needs
of
neighborhoods
expanding
and
encouraging
transportation
choice
beyond
the
personal
vehicle.
E
Some
other
key
findings
is
the
role
of
data
currently
is
not
front
and
center
to
how
we
run
the
npp
program,
because
the
mpp
program
uses
a
community-led
petition
process
as
a
primary
method
for
creating
and
expanding
zones.
So,
while
this
allows
for
significant
community
involvement
in
the
decision
making
about
the
program,
it
limits
the
city's
ability
to
use
data
to
help
make
decisions
that
need
broader
community
goals,
so
we're
not
using
data
to
expand
or
create
mpps
we're
relying
on
the
community
to
lead
this
process
also
cost
recovery.
E
E
So
that
leads
to
our
key
questions
for
council
that
are
specific
to
the
neighborhood
parking
management
approach,
and
so
we
can
move
into
discussion
now
specifically
on
npp,
and
our
key
questions
are:
does
council
agree
with
the
key
findings
and
stated
draft
project
goals
for
neighborhood
parking
management
and
in
the
development
of
possible
neighborhood
parking
management
strategies?
How
would
council
prioritize
the
use
of
the
following
quantitative
data
collection
and
analysis
of
parking
activity
in
residential
zones
versus
generalized
qualitative
neighborhood
needs
communicated
by
community
members
and,
finally,
the
broader,
larger,
long-term
city-wide
goals?
E
So
again,
we
can
move
into
discussion
now
unless
a
council
would
prefer
to
to
just
continue
on
to
our
parking
pricing
and
and
fines
slides.
We
have
another
series
of
questions
related
to
that
portion
of
the
program
and
then
we
can.
We
can
tackle
all
the
questions
at
the
end,
but
really
wanted
to
to
see
if
we
wanted
to
break
this
up.
B
B
It's
always
good
to
be
able
to
see
each
other.
I
think,
although
the
draft
project
goals
were
pretty
detailed,
so
we'll
see
if
people
want
those
back.
So
what
are
people's
thoughts
on
those
draft
goals
for
the
neighborhood
parking
program?
That
staff
is
proposing
thoughts.
E
B
C
E
It
makes
it
makes
perfect
sense.
I'd
say
that
it
depends
on
which
goal
we're
looking
at
so
I'm
happy
to
go
through
each
one
and
kind
of
communicate.
The
trade-off
of
kind
of
the
nuances
so
or
maybe
more
particularly
I'd,
say
one
is
the
generate
revenue
needed
to
achieve
cost
recovery.
So
right
now
we
know
that
the
mpp
is
not
priced
in
the
way
that
is,
that
is
generating
enough
revenue
to
cover
the
program.
So
that's
a
key
tradeoff.
E
An
outcome
of
that
would
be
changes
of
the
program
that
will
will
affect
the
rates
that
we
charge
and
then
I
would
say
the
last
one:
increased
value
for
the
entire
boulder
community.
I'd
say
the
the
foundational
elements
of
the
program
that,
as
it
currently
exists,
was
focused
on
mitigating
spillover,
parking
in
neighborhoods
surrounding
our
managed
districts,
and
so
it
was
very
much
neighborhood
focused
and
impacting
parking
in
front
of
someone's
home.
E
So
it's
very
much
based
on
responding
to
localized
neighborhood
parking
challenges
and
the
city
responding
to
that
where,
if
we
were
to
change
this
program
and
focus
more
on
making
sure
that
there's
value
for
the
entire
community
and
where
there
might
be
other
types
of
parking
challenges,
we
could
we
could
see
some
different
outcomes.
Does
anybody
else
from
the
project
team
have
have
more
to
add
on
on
that.
N
Chris
I'd
just
like
to
add,
you
know
with
the
first
one
you
described
with
the
the
generate
the
revenue
to
achieve
cost
recovery.
You
know
we,
we
could
look
at
a
system
that
increases
the
revenue
and
then
that
revenue
is
reinvested
into
that
neighborhood
into
the
community.
In
other
ways
you
know
a
common
idea.
Sometimes
is
you
know
a
neighborhood
ecopass
type
program,
so
there
could
be
ways
to
reinvest
additional
revenue
if
the
costs
were
increased.
O
If
I
could
quickly
add
something,
this
is
mallory
baker,
I'm
with
walker
with
the
consultant
team.
I
think
in
any
in
any
case,
to
achieve
these
goals.
One
of
the
the
directions
we
might
head
is
more
of
a
strategic
process
where
the
city
is
actively
using
objective
data,
quantitative
data
from
the
system
to
make
the
make
decisions
around
neighborhood
parking
management,
so
enabling
a
process
where
the
city
is
more
empowered
to
make
data-driven
decisions
that
are
strategic
in
mind.
O
So
you
can
achieve
some
of
these
broader
goals
and
then
the
second
component
is
broadening
the
neighborhood
parking
management
and
access
management
program.
Right
now
it
focuses
pretty
exclusively
on
parking
permits
so
enabling
people
to
drive
and
park
in
certain
areas.
So
we're
really
looking
at
expanding
the
capabilities
of
the
program.
So
it's
more
about
access
for
everyone
in
the
community,
rather
than
just
enabling
certain
people
more
extensive
or
exclusive
access
to
the
curb
in
front
of
their
home.
B
Same
and
mark,
but
I
want
to
call
on
juni
she's,
not
feeling
well
she'd
like
to
squeeze
a
question
in
here.
If
we
could
junior
yep
for
asking
that
question.
Thank.
M
E
Sure
so
I'd
say
that
while
we
have
one
mpp
program
currently
we
have
a
variety
of
different
types
of
neighborhoods
across
the
city,
where
a
lot
of
our
our
neighborhoods
that
currently
have
mpps
are
pre-world
war,
ii
or
or
pre-world
war.
One
developments
that
were
not
designed
around
the
automobile
and
so
the
parking
challenges
that
they
experience
are
significantly
different
from
our
post-world
war
ii
neighborhoods.
E
B
Very
good
thanks,
juni
sam
and
then
mark.
F
Great,
so
this
is
actually
a
fairly
complex
topic
because
it
has
been
stated
a
couple
times
that
we're
you
know.
We
need
to
be
careful
that
we're
not
just
preserving.
You
know
curb
space
for
people
who
live
in
a
home
there,
but
in
several
of
these
zones
they
are
rmx
zones
that
probably
have
a
higher
proportion
of
renters
in
them
than
some
of
the
other
zones
which
are,
as
you
say,
near
chicago,
for
instance,
which
is
an
attractor
for
visitors.
F
So
I
think
one.
Your
first
goal
talks
about
the
diversity
of
neighborhood
needs,
and
I
think
we
need
to
express
that
pretty
clearly
that
there
is
a
diversity
across
the
different
neighborhoods.
It
is
not
all
just
about
preserving
curb
space
for
people
who
live
in
homes
there
it's
about
using
a
public
good
most
effectively,
I
think-
and
so
maybe
if
we
were
to
put
it
in
that
light,
that
we
want
to
use
the
public
good
in
different
neighborhoods
in
a
way
that
does
increase
value
or,
I
would
say,
maximizes
value
for
the
entire
boulder
community.
F
So
I
would
just
point
that
out
and
towards
that
end
you
you
talk
about
data
types,
you
talk
about
quantitative
data
and
I
think
more
clarity
on
what
that
looks.
Like
so
there's
one
type
of
quantitative
data
which
is
polling
right.
You
can
do
statistically
valid
surveys,
there's
another
type
of
data
which
allows
you
to
count
numbers
which
you've
done,
but
which
is
not
a
really
scientific
poll.
F
It's
just
telling
you
know
who
has
responded
and
have
we
had
good
representation
of
a
bunch
of
different
kinds
of
of
users,
responding
to
the
way
to
use
this
public
good.
So
I
would
say
that
we
need
a
little
more
clarity
on
the
type
of
data
that
we're
going
to
use
to
make
distinctions
about
different
neighborhoods.
So
you
know
one
type
of
data
would
be
like.
What's
the
demand
for
commuters
to
park
in
a
neighborhood,
another
would
be
what's
the
mix
of
housing.
F
You
know
some
of
these
areas
with
npps
are
almost
entirely
single-family
detached
homes.
Others
are
much
more
of
a
blend,
like
you
say,
in
pre-world
war,
one
and
pre-world
war
ii,
parts
of
town
that
have
high
parking
demand.
They
might
have
a
quite
a
mix.
Others
are
really
university
influence.
So
when
you
talk
about
quantitative
data,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
going
forward
to
really
define
what
that
looks
like,
because
some
is
easy
to
get
to
objectively.
Others
require.
F
You
know
amounts
of
jobs
being
concentrated
in
one
area
that
within
bringing
in
commuters
and
similarly
with
the
university
as
it
grew,
bringing
in
additional
commuters,
so
there's
commuter
impacted
neighborhoods
and
then
there's
like
visitor
amenity,
impacted
neighborhoods.
So
I
guess
I
would
just
say
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
quantitative
and
qualitative,
we
probably
have
to
be
fairly
granular
if
we
want
to
make
good
decisions.
F
But
I
generally
do
think
that
having
different
flavors
of
programs
in
different
spaces
is
helpful
and
it
relates
to-
and
I
don't
want
to
bring
this
completely
in-
but
I'll
just
mention
that
it
relates
to
how
we're
going
to
look
at
curb
use.
You
know
for
deliveries
and
so
on,
because
another
big
thing
that's
changed
is
there
are
tons
and
tons
of
deliveries
at
a
rate
that
really
hasn't
occurred
prior
to
now.
F
So
that
involves
needing
access
to
curbs
and
doing
so
in
a
way
that
doesn't
block
bike
lanes,
for
instance
like
it's,
a
frequent
occurrence,
biking
around
town
that
there
will
be
delivery,
trucks
and
and
bike
lanes,
and
to
what
extent
is
that?
Because
there
are
cars
parked
there?
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
riff
on
that
a
little
bit,
because
I
think
we
need
to
get
real
clear
on
how
we're
going
to
increase
or
maximize
the
value
which
is
going
to
look
different
in
different
areas.
F
Then
I
had
a
question
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
heard
it
right.
It
sounded
to
me
like
quarterly
commuter
permits
in
npp
zones
were
on
the
order
of
90.
Did
I
get
that
right?
What's
the
cost
for
a
commuter
permit
in
an
mvp
zone,
100.
F
Okay,
so
100
quarters,
so
it's
about
a
dollar
a
day
give
or
take,
and
so
I
think
another
thing
that
we
might
want
to
look
at
when
you're
talking
about
cost
recovery.
Is
you
know
it's
a
dollar
a
day
to
park
all
day
in
an
mpp
zone?
It
would
cost
way
more
if
you're
parking
at
a
meter
or
in
a
garage.
So
you
know
our
our
npp
commuter
passes,
commenter
with,
say
what
it
would
cost
to
park
in
a
garage.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
important.
It
gets
it
equity,
but
it
also
gets
it.
F
You
know
we
don't
want
to
create
through
low
pricing
demand
that
wouldn't
otherwise
be
there.
If
the
pricing
was
equivalent
to
say
garage
and
manage
parking,
I
think
that's
enough,
but
to
respond
directly
to
the
question
about
the
goals,
I
think
the
last
one
should
talk
about
maximizing
value
and
somewhere
in
here
early
we
should
be
talking
about.
This.
Is
a
public
good
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
users
have
equitable
access
to
a
public
good.
Thank
you.
A
A
couple
of
things
I
would
certainly
be
very
supportive
of
cost
recovery
on
in
npps.
I
I
think,
that's
long
overdue,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
felt
similarly
to
to
rachel.
A
It
was
not
clear
to
me
at
various
points
exactly
what
you
were
heading
for
in
terms
of
outcomes
other
than
presumably
some
some
higher
prices
on
on
parking,
and
I
think
frankly,
there
could
have
been
a
little
more
clarity
as
to
the
directions
you
want
to
go
in
and
where
you
want
to
end
up-
and
I
am
I'm
hoping
that
all
changes
to
pricing
will
also
be
done
with
a
view
towards
equity
considerations.
A
Lastly,
I
assume
you're
going
to
look
at
sort
of
the
inflection
point
between
higher
rates
that
may
encourage
alternate
modes
of
transportation
versus
higher
rates
that
will
simply
drive
people
to
flat
irons
or
dining
in
main
street
lewisville,
because
that's
an
alternate
consideration
that
we
need
to
to
be
looking
at,
and
the
last
point
I
will
make
is
there
was
a
reference
in
the
memo
to
the
scope
of
the
consultant
study,
and
it
mentioned
that
we
were
going
to
be
looking
at
examples
of
parking
solutions
in
places
like
seattle,
portland
or
boston.
A
I
I
would
point
out
that
seattle
has
is
a
city
seven
times
our
size
with
a
metropolitan
area
almost
38
times
our
size.
Boston
is
over
six
times
with
a
metropolitan
area.
Over
40
times
our
size
and
portland
is
over
six
times
our
size.
I'm
not
sure
those
are
the
best
examples
of
how
to
manage
parking
solutions,
they're
different
cities,
and
we
also
I'm
happy
if
we
want
to
look
at
them.
A
G
Thank
you,
aaron.
Thanks
for
the
presentation
chris
and
my
question.
My
first
question
is
about
the
I'm
curious
to
know
what
kind
of
feedback
you
received
from
in
during
the
outreach
phase
of
from
businesses
that
are
vehicle-based,
so
you
mentioned
landscapers,
I'm
also
thinking
about
roofers
and.
G
E
Thank
you,
mary.
That's
a
really
a
great
question.
I
am
actually
going
to
defer
to
mallory
from
our
consultant
team
because
he
has
been
having
those
types
of
conversations
with
a
variety
of
different
students,
and
I
know
that
she's
reached
out
to
those
types
of
businesses.
Mallory.
Do
you
have
any
specifics
to
share
on
that.
O
Yeah
first
I'll
say
that
our
outreach
process
is
still
ongoing.
So
the
initial
phase
of
this
project,
the
community
engagement
efforts.
There
was
really
to
ask
some
general
foundational
questions
around.
You
know
how
people
make
transportation
decisions
so
we're
really.
We
really
went
for
kind
of
broad
impact
trying
to
get
at
a
broad
swath
of
the
community,
so
we
haven't
done
that
focused
work.
We've
we've
specifically
approached
folks
that
might
have
that
particular
sensitivity
in
the
the
next
phase
of
this
project
so
quarter.
O
One
2021
right
now
we're
doing
several
virtual
engagement
modules
through
a
number
of
community
organizations.
In
addition
to
downtown
businesses.
We
also
have
an
access
allies
group
that
has
strong
business
representation
that
have
been
guiding
us
throughout
the
process.
So
I'll
first
say
that
you
know
the
outreach
process
is
ongoing
and
we
haven't
really
gotten
any
specific
feedback
from
those
groups.
O
P
O
Any
strategy
that
we
look
towards
will
will
look
to
preserve
that
component
of
the
program
to
make
sure
that
there
is
equitable
access
for
folks,
that
whose
businesses,
and
whose
very
livelihood
depend
on
access
to
the
curb.
But
I
think
that
we
that's
a
it's
a
really
good
point
that
we
should
maybe
do
some
more
work
to
specifically
engage
and
target
that
audience
with
our
upcoming
virtual
engagement
modules.
So
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
G
Would
be
great
yeah?
That
would
be
great.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
and
then
my
next
question
or
actually
yeah.
I
guess
it's
it's
a
comment
or
suggestion
that
is
came
out
of
sam's
parking
riff,
not
as
good
as
a
guitar
riff,
but
a
riff.
G
Nevertheless,
and
as
I
was
listening
to
him,
make
his
comments,
I
was
thinking
what,
if
you
had
a
whole
bunch
of
questions
that
covered
all
the
different
kinds
of
neighborhoods
and
then,
as
you
came
into
a
neighborhood,
you
kind
of
did
a
cafeteria
style
selection
from
that
that
set
of
questions
that
you
have
so
that
this,
the
the
set
of
questions
that
you
pick
for
that
particular
neighborhood
really
fits
that
neighborhood.
G
B
Thanks
mary
and
I'll
call
on
myself,
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
these
goals
are
fantastic.
I
I
really
appreciate
this
holistic
set
of
goals
that
you've
picked
and
the
way
you're
looking
at
through
the
program
through
different,
multiple
different
lenses.
I
do
think
the
program
is
long
overdue
for
a
revision
of
its
goals
and
its
approaches
it's
over
25
years
old.
So
I'm
I'm
glad
to
see
you
kind
of
broadening
the
scope
of
what
the
program
is
trying
to
accomplish.
B
So
absolutely
support
you
in
that
and
speaking
back
on
what
was
said
before
about
the
cost
and
making
sure
that
the
the
cost
is
appropriate.
It's
not
just
about
the
commuter
permits,
but
you
know
clearly
also
for
the
resident
and
business
permits
right.
So
I
know
you'll
be
looking
at
all
three,
but
they
all
three
probably
need
adjusting
from
a
cost
recovery
and
the
you
know
the
utilization
of
that
public
good,
like
sam,
was
talking
about
for
the
benefit
of
the
entire
boulder
community.
B
So
thanks
for
your
work
on
this,
I
look
forward
to
the
next
steps.
Any
other
comments
on
the
goals.
B
If
we
don't
have
any,
can
we
go
back
to
the
second
question:
pardon
the
scratchy
dog
in
the
background
okay.
So
some
of
us
have
already
addressed
some
of
this,
but
in
the
development
of
possible
neighborhood
parking
management
strategies.
How
would
council
prioritize
the
use
of
the
following
quantitative
data
collection
and
analysis
of
parking
activity
in
residential
zones?
Generalized
qualitative
neighborhood
needs
communicated
by
community
members
and
broader
long-term
city
goals.
Thoughts
on
that
one
nearby.
Q
So
thanks
for
the
great
work
on
this
and
I'll
echo,
what
my
colleagues
have
said,
it's
definitely
time
for
a
revamp.
I
would
like
to
see.
I
mean
I
thought.
Sam's
riff
as
mary
was
saying,
was
quite
accurate
in
terms
of
how
you
would
dissect
the
quantitative
data,
and
so
I
I
mean
I
would
like
to
stress
the
quantitative
data
as
well
as
the
actual
actual
neighborhood
needs.
Q
I
think
that
one
of
the
issues
and
I've
you
know
just
heard
from
a
few
constituencies,
which
we
always
hear,
is
that
you
know
the
outreach
wasn't
as
known
to
as
many
people,
and
so
I
think
that,
as
with
pretty
much
everything
that
we
see
across
the
city
there's
a
few
people
who
are
always
on
top
of
what
they,
what
the
city's
doing
and
so
they'll
always
respond
to
those
whatever
the
word,
I'm
looking
for
the
information
requests,
and
so
I,
but
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
working
people
who
don't
you
know
just
don't
have
the
time
to
stay
up
on
what
the
city
is
doing,
miss
out
on
what's
happening,
and
so
the
data
may
not
accurately
imply
what
is
happening,
and
so,
if
we
can
really
look
more
at
the
actual
data,
rather
than
just
the
comments
that
were
put
in.
Q
That's
how
I
personally
would
like
to
see
it.
You
know
the
the
information
leaned.
So
if
that
helps,
staff
at.
B
All
thanks
very
much
and
seeing
no
other
hands
I'll,
just
jump
in
and
say
I
mean,
I
think
all
three
of
those
are
important.
You
know
you
got
to
look
at
your
quantitative
data
like
you
have
to
actually
know
what's
going
on
with
parking
on
the
ground,
you
do
want
to
respect
and
be
interested
in
the
wishes
of
the
immediate
neighborhood
and
the
neighbors
who
the
people
who
live
there
and
their
thoughts
on
it.
B
Because
they'll
give
you
insights,
you
wouldn't
have
otherwise,
but
you
also
still
got
to
keep
in
mind
those
long-term
citywide
goals
of
which
you
mentioned
in
in
your
slide
about
goals.
So
it's
a
balancing
act
like
I.
How
was
that
for
super,
unhelpful,
sam
and
then
mark.
F
Yeah
I
covered
most
of
this
in
my
first
riff,
which
is
not
as
good
as
a
guitar
riff
for
sure,
but
I
do
want
to
support
mary's
idea
of
a
set
of
questions,
that's
kind
of
broad
and
holistic
and
then
they're
kind
of
aimed
at
learning
what
you're
trying
to
learn
from
each
of
the
different
neighborhoods
like
stuff
around
downtown,
we'll
have
some
similarities
stuff
around
the
university
we'll
have
some
and
stuff
around
trailheads
we'll
have
different
ones.
F
So
I
thought
that
was
a
really
good
idea
on
mary's
part,
and
the
only
other
thing
I
will
say
about
the
draft
goals
is:
it
is
really
hard
to
say
what
is
going
to
help
meet
some
of
our
say,
climate
goals
or
lower
vmt
goals,
because
as
you
free
up
and
make
it
easier,
potentially
for
people
coming
in
from
the
outside
to
park
that
could
promote
sov
type
compute
commuting
or
if
you
make
it
so
that
anybody
can
always
find
a
parking
spot
in
front
of
a
home
in
those
areas,
then
maybe
they're
more
incentivized
to
to
run
errands
that
way
in
a
car.
F
So
I
I
would
just
point
out
that,
as
it
is,
I
think
aaron
was
was
saying
that
it
is
complex
to
say
what
is
going
to
actually
promote
your
goals
better,
and
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
I
would
think.
We'd
want
to
lean
on
our
consultant
for,
and
their
experience
in,
other
cities
would
be.
They
might
have
come
up
with
clever
ways
to
to
balance
the
commuting
effect
versus
the
air
and
effect
neighborhood.
So
anyway,
I
as,
as
others,
have
said
it's
great
to
do
this
now,
and
it
is
a
complex
topic.
A
Yeah
I'm
gonna
echo
aaron.
I
I
don't
know
that
we
can
give
you
affirmative
guidance
as
to
which
element
of
these
is
should
take
priority
over
others.
It
is
a
balancing
act.
I
I
think
we're
going
to
rely
upon
you
and
your
consultant
to
weave
them
together
and
produce
a
a
set
of
suggestions
that
we
can
act
upon.
I
don't
know
that
we
have
the
the
insight
necessary
to
prioritize
one
over
the
other.
A
I
think
they're
all
important,
and
so
as
aaron
said
that
that's
not
very
helpful,
but
I
I
think
that's
about
the
best
we
can
do
for
you
we're
going
to
lean
on
you
to
unravel
this
and
unpack
that
the
elements
of
it,
as
you
see
best
as
you
see
fit,.
G
Thank
you.
Well,
I
would
have
this
suggestion
about
how
to
use
the
the
information,
so
I
would
use
the
the
quantitative
data
as
kind
of
a
baseline
and
that's
measured
right
and
then
I
would
use
the
the
qualitative
neighborhood
communication
as
kind
of
a
confirmation
of
what
you
see
with
the
measured
data
and
then.
Lastly,
I
would
look
at
the
the
broader
term
long-term
city-wide
goals.
G
I
I
would
use
those
to
adjust
so
yeah,
so
I
would
just
measure
and
then
confirm
and
adjust
and
that's
more
how
how
I
would
use
it
rather
than
what
takes
priority
over
what
and
that's
all.
I
have
thanks.
B
Mary
rachel
and
jeannie.
C
You
one
of
the
chris's,
or
maybe
both
mentioned,
that
we
got
some
board
feedback
and
it
was
described,
I
think,
is
mostly
positive.
I
was
just
wondering
what
negative
feedback
was
received.
Was
that
like
acted
on
before
it
got
to
us,
or
are
there
considerations
that
the
board
brought
up
that
a
non-expert
like
myself
might
not
be
flagging?
C
So
that's
one
question
second,
is
of
the
boards
that
weighed
in-
and
this
is
a
broad
question,
so
I'm
I'm
sorry
to
be
asking
it
out
loud
in
public,
but
you
know
tab
is
transportation's
board.
Basically,
is
there
a
board
that
is
sort
of
what
community
vitality
would
usually
look
at
it
or
was
it?
Is
community
community
vitality
the
boards
that
sort
of
represent
those
considerations?
The
you
know,
downtown
and
boulder
junction?
Do
those
all
add
up
to
community
vitality,
or
is
there
a
different
one.
E
Those
are
some
big
questions
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
them
and
that
you
might
want
to
poke
in
as
well
on
this,
but
it's
it
is
very
nuanced.
In
the
sense
of
yes,
transportation
advisory
board
provides
guidance
to
all
transportation
related
decisions
which
parking
is
one
of
them
when
it
comes
to
community
vitality
through
our
district
management
area
of
our
work,
we
have
downtown
management
commission,
as
an
example
is
a
representation
of
folks
that
you
all
have
appointed
for
a
taxing
district
that
has
built
district-owned
parking,
as
opposed
to
our
on-street
program,
which
is
city.
E
You
know,
general
fund
publicly
owned
parking,
and
so
there's
this.
There
is
a
nuance
there,
where,
when
we
are
making
decisions
around
our
capital
improvement
plans
for
our
district
owned
assets
in
the
downtown,
we
tend
to
vet
those
with
our
downtown
management
commission
for
their
guidance
or
along
those
lines.
The
three
dollar
evening
parking
product,
which
certainly
has
implications
for
how
people
behave
on
street
evening
parkers
were
much
more
willing
to
use
district
owned
parking
assets.
E
E
We
didn't
necessarily
take
it
out
to
the
broader
community
and
and
to
tab,
and
we
did
get
some
feedback
on
that
from
them,
and
and
that's
translated
into
this
process,
where
we
are
wanting
to
take
a
holistic,
citywide
approach
to
decisions,
we're
making
around
parking
for
assets
that
are
owned
by
individual
taxing
districts
like
downtown
university
hill
and
boulder
junction,
and
the
broader
public
parking
on
in
the
general
public
right-of-way
on-street,
both
in
the
downtown
and
in
neighborhoods,
and
so
the
feedback
that
we've
received
thus
far
from
tab
was
certainly
around
that
of
they're
very
interested
in
working
with
us
more
on
this
decisions
around
parking
and
parking
pricing
they
also,
understandably,
their
interests
are
related
to
the
transportation
master
plan
and
the
tmp
goals
specifically,
and
so
their
feedback
was
very
much
tied
to
wanting
that
to
be
our
our
north
star.
E
In
the
decisions
that
we're
making.
In
this
conversation-
and
that's
where
we're
in
this
this
middle
zone,
we
do
have
a
lot
of
other
interests
that
are
represented
from
the
downtown
management
commission
or
the
downtown
boulder
partnership
or
other
stakeholders
that
community
vitality
works
with
on
a
regular
basis.
That
that
might
not
see
the
transportation
master
plan
as
the
only
set
of
policy
guidance
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
in
these
decisions.
Does
that
help
answer
your
questions?
Oh,
and
eventually,.
C
Well,
yeah,
the
second
one
I
mean
I
was
just
visualizing
there's.
There
is
sort
of
a
tension
between,
I
think
community,
vitality
and
transportation
interest,
and
so
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
if
that
gave
me
a
little
look
at
that.
But
there
you
know
there
is
like
you
know
some
some
varying
goals
there,
and
so
I
understand
tab
would
be
advocating
on
on
one
side,
and
I
was
just
trying
to
visualize
like
what
is
the
community
vitality
other
side
of
that
tension.
C
So
I
think
that
does
explain
it
but
still
wondering
what
the
negative
feedback
might
be
from
the
boards
that
you
got
and
then
just
one
other
question
and
I'm
sorry
if
you
answered
it
already,
but
you
know
we
during
covid
have
used
parking
as
parklets.
If
that's
the
right
word-
and
you
know
outdoor
dining
is,
are
we
looking
at
that
in
this
process
too,
like
using?
R
So
you
know
we
are
benefiting
from
the
contributions
of
a
lot
of
boards
and
commissions,
and
I
think
it
came
up
during
retreat
the
importance
of
giving
opportunities
for
boards
to
hear
each
other
and
work
across.
So
I
think
our
our
engagement
plan
will
start
to
reflect
how
we
accomplish
that.
Do
we
put
something
together
that
allows
the
boards
to
work
a
little
bit
more
refined
across.
R
R
I
guess
I
wouldn't
refer
to
things
as
attention.
I
would
certainly
reflect
that.
If
that's
the
case
erica,
I
and
the
chris's
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
reduce
those
tensions,
because
that
we're
all
about
access.
Everybody
should
be
about
access
and
the
the
varied
needs.
There
are
differences
of
opinion
and
we'll
continue
to
explore
those
and
reflect
that
accordingly,
but
I
think
the
work
is
still
to
be
done
and
we're
looking
for
council
to
kind
of
help
us
lay
that
groundwork
at
the
end
of
it.
R
I
guess
I'd
just
say
you
know,
there's
lots
of
input
and
you
asked
a
question
about
parklets.
This
particular
project
will
not
be
addressing
that
particular
program.
That
program
was
recently
extended
and,
as
I
think
you
showed
an
earlier
information,
there's
other
studies
coming
regarding
curbside
utilization
that
we
still
have
to
work
on
including
parking
code.
But
in
the
meantime,
in
response
to
covet,
we
are
continuing
to
do
what
we
can
to
support
the
community.
But
thanks
for
your
question,
rachel.
C
E
E
And-
and
that
was
heard
loud
and
clear-
and
I
think
that
collectively
we
agree
that
that
1994
directive
of
what
the
npp
program
was
all
about
is
outdated
to
a
certain
extent
and
that's
why
we
have
reframed
our
our
goals,
a
bit
to
be
more
inclusive
and
and
city-wide
and
and
mallory.
You
you've
suggested
that
there's
some
other
things
that
we've
changed
and
and
I'd
say
also
some
of
these
questions
we've
tailored
to
really
try
to
hone
in
on
on.
E
How
do
we
weave
the
difference
between
just
taking
in
data
to
help
make
decisions
around
how
much
we
should
be
charging
for
for
parking
or
use
of
the
public
right-of-way?
How
much
should
we
be
relying
on
that?
You
know
when
we
say
qualitative
input
in
a
lot
of
senses?
E
It's
the
folks
who
we
hear
from
all
the
time
saying
that
they
have
a
parking
problem
in
their
neighborhood
and
they
want
us
to
come
in
and
fix
it,
and
then
we
know
that
we
have
these
longer
term
broader
goals
for
for
achieving
sustainability
and
and
and
reducing
impact
on
climate
and
how?
What
role
does
parking
play
in
that?
E
And
I
think
that
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
feel
like
parking
is
the
thing
that
will
that
will
help
us
make
a
lot
of
progress
in
that
area,
and
so
that's
what
this
work
right
now
is
really
about
is:
is
understanding
all
those
nuances
and
weaving
a
strategy
that
that
appropriately
moves
forward
in
all
those
realms
and
that's
why
we
we
pose
the
questions.
The
way
we
did
this
evening
mallory,
do
you
have
anything
else
to
add
on
on
how
we're
addressing
the
specific
feedback
from
boards
and
commissions.
O
Yeah
just
really
quickly
one
of
the
again,
I
wouldn't
say
it
was
negative
feedback,
but
certainly
constructive
feedback
on
the
community
engagement
and
outreach
efforts.
When
we,
when
we
went
to
tab
specifically,
we
had
actually
just
come
off
the
tail
end
of
canceling,
a
series
of
virtual
community
workshops
that
we
had
developed
and
advertised
heavily
and
we
just
weren't
getting
the
traction
people
weren't
signing
up,
and
we
we
really
saw
that
and
responded
to
that.
We
recognized
that
people
were
just
burnt
out
on
new
virtual
meetings.
I
think
we
all
are
experiencing
that.
O
I
know
that
I
I
am,
and
so
we
decided
to
take
a
step
back
and
really
think
about
how
to
engage
the
community
where
they
are
and
where
they're
at
so
we
created
these
virtual
engagement
modules
that
are
sort
of
plug
and
play
modules
that
can
be
used
at
existing
community
meetings.
So
community
organizations
that
are
already
doing
amazing
work
in
the
city
of
boulder
are
tagged,
are
tacking
on
these
modules
to
their
meetings
and
we're
engaged
we're
able
to
engage
with
a
broader
swath
of
the
community
that
way
than
we
were
with
this.
O
You
know
new
zoom
virtual
work,
community
workshop
series,
so
tab
had
some.
You
know
comments
about
how
we
could
have
done
better
and
maybe
anticipated
some
of
that
burnout.
But
I
think
you
know
we're
all
learning
how
to
do
successful
community
engagement
in
this
new
era
of
covid.
So
we
we-
hopefully
you
know,
responded
to
that
loud
and
clear
direction
from
the
community
and
have
kind
of
redirected,
our
community
engagement
effort
to
be
better
reflective
of
where
people
are
at
right
now
and
how
they're
able
to
respond.
E
Thanks
thanks
mallory,
and
I
really
wanted
to
also
point
out
that
we
have
the
the
great
asset
of
of
erica
vandenbrand
who's
coming
in
from
new
perspective,
but
has
worked
on
efforts
like
this
in
the
past
and
would
love
to
hear
from
her
and
her
perspective,
especially
in
this
conversation
on
with
how
tab
fits
with
this
work
as
well.
S
So,
just
very
briefly
to
answer
your
question
rachel,
I
wouldn't
say
that
things
were
negative.
I
think
that
what
tab
said
very
clearly-
and
we
heard
very
clearly-
is
that
they
want
to
be
involved
and
they
want
to
be
an
active
and
engaged
partner,
and
so
that's
how
I
would
characterize
the
tenor
of
tap's
feedback.
M
Thank
you,
aaron
I'll
still
keep
my
camera
off
and
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
few
comments
and
also
maybe
ask
a
question
as
well
as
part
of
my
comments
and
you
mentioned,
which
one
to
prioritize
when
it
comes
to
whether
qualitative
or
quantitative
data-
and
I
think
my
comments
based
on
my
own
personal
experience
with
qualitative
data.
M
Although
I
did
not
see
that
as
part
of
your
program
goals,
when
we
think
of
equity,
we
don't
just
think
of
race.
We
also
think
of
class,
and
I
think
that's
something
I
think
sam
mentioned
when
he
talked
about
diversity
earlier.
So
I
think
it's
very
important
that
you
know
even
in
the
research
the
equity
is
reflected,
but
also
in
class.
So
to
me
I
think
that's
very
important
and
another
comment
or
maybe
part
of
it
as
well.
M
M
How
diverse
is
that
engagement
group,
for
instance,
I'm
sure
different
businesses
are
very
interested
in
that
work,
but
also
neighborhood
groups
as
well
would
be
very
interested
when
you
think
of
martin
acres
and
also
their
proximity
to
different
institutions.
M
I
would
imagine.
Martin
acres
is
very
different
than
say
certain
neighborhoods,
for
instance
whittier.
It's
not
the
same
thing
because
of
what's
there
what's
around
there
and
the
pressure
on
the
communities
that
live
around
there.
So
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
in
the
data
that
we
focus
a
lot
on
qualitative
data,
because
I
think
just
quantitative
data
it
can
be
whatever
we
want
to
make
it
actually.
G
I
just
I
just
have
a
comment
about
how
the
fun
the
function
of
a
board
and
if,
if
a
board,
is
strictly
providing
advocacy.
I
certainly
want
to
hear
about
that
because
I
think
no
not.
I
think,
but
I
know
a
board's
function
is
to
think
critically
and
within
their
own
board,
consider
those
tensions
and
then
balance
those
tensions
and
make
their
recommendations
based
on
what
they
know
and
their
own
individual
lenses,
but
to
strictly
provide
advocacy
for
one
viewpoint
or
another.
B
E
Thank
you.
Yes,
we
can.
We
I'll
move
through
these
next
slides
very
quickly,
and
our
next
questions
focus
they're
very
similar
questions,
but
yes
focused
on
parking
pricing
and
fines,
so
existing
conditions.
We
know
that
users
pay
for
parking
on
street
and
off
street
both
downtown
university
hill
and
boulder
junction
prices
are
generally
set
at
a
dollar
25
per
hour
for
both
on
street
and
off
street,
with
some
exceptions.
E
We
have
low
fines
for
parking
violations
when
we
compare
ourselves
not
just
with
communities
across
the
front
range
but
across
the
country,
and
we
only
have
two
violation:
types
that
are
eligible
for
graduated
fines
currently,
and
our
pricing
policy
is
generally
guided
by
the
1994
pricing
policy
guidelines.
They
were
included
as
an
attachment
to
your
packet.
E
So,
despite
those
guidelines,
our
pricing
strategy
seeks
to
prioritize
customer
access
in
on-street
spaces
and
employee
and
longer-term
parking
in
off-street
facilities,
and
so
that's
partially,
why
we
have.
We
have
time
limits
on
street
in
the
downtown.
We
want
long-term
parkers
to
to
be
parking
in
the
garages
and
we
also
want
to
be
incentivizing
mode
shift
for
all
users,
and
so
we
do
that
with
subsidizing
the
employee
ecopass
and
helping
to
provide
a
variety
of
transportation
options.
E
E
We,
because
our
pricing
approach
doesn't
use
parking
data.
We
we're
we're
not
using
the
qual
the
quantitative
data
right
now.
We
haven't
updated
pricing
in
about
12
or
13
years
in
our
districts.
E
It
makes
it
easy
for
us
to
administer
the
program
and
helps
people
understand
what
to
expect
to
a
certain
extent
and
how
much
they're
going
to
pay
for
parking,
but
it
doesn't
allow
us
to
use
pricing
effectively
to
achieve
our
parking
management
and
transportation
demand
management
goals.
That
said,
we
are
generating
enough
revenue
from
visitor
and
permit
parking
in
our
managed
districts
to
pay
for
our
operational,
administrative
and
capital
costs
associated
with
our
parking
and
access
program.
E
E
How
would
council
prioritize
the
use
of
the
following
quantitative
data,
collection
and
analysis
of
parking
activity
and
commercial
zones
generalized,
qualitative
business
and
customer
needs
communicated
by
community
stakeholders
and
broader
and
broader,
long-term
citywide
goals?
Before
I
hand
this
over
aaron?
I
just
want
to
speak
to
some
of
the
responses
on
these
types
of
questions
in
the
neighborhood
parking
management
round.
Is
I
really
liked
and
appreciated
what
mary
had
to
say
about
the
it's
about?
What
triggers?
E
E
So
it's
almost
like
we
wait
until
we
have
a
problem
before
we
start
figuring
out
a
way
to
address
it.
Where
this
this
question,
for
both
neighborhood
parking
and
for
parking
pricing
is,
do
we
wait
until
we
recognize
that
there's
a
problem,
whether
it's
we're
not
generating
enough
revenue
to
cover
our
expenses
or
we're
not
keeping
up
with
other
communities
that
are
charging
more
for
parking
or
some
other
changing
need
a
curbside
management
strategy
that
has
other
uses
going
on
on
the
curbside?
E
That
would
be
an
attempt
to
more
get
ahead
of
waiting
until
there's
some
of
those
qualitative
challenges
before
we
make
decisions
and
then,
finally,
again
as
mary
suggested,
there
are
the
broader
long-term
citywide
goals
that
still
need
to
be
kind
of
the
the
north
star
in
these
processes.
So
with
that,
I
just
wanted
to
to
provide
some
thoughts
on
where
we
might
be
going
with
this
work.
B
Thanks
for
that,
chris,
so
we've
got
adam
and
then
I
have
a
question
and
then
we'll
we'll
hear
from
other
people,
and
maybe
you
can
move
back
to
the
the
goals
chris,
while
we're
getting
there
adam.
H
Thanks
aaron,
I'm
gonna
start
out
with
a
question
as
well.
My
question
is:
what
are
the
capabilities
of
charging
different
rates
based
on
the
time,
so
I
know
we
implemented
that
three
from
three
to
three
program.
I
think
it
is
but
are
there
you
know,
can
we
be
dynamic
in
pricing
based
on
time
and
usage
at
that
time?.
E
Yes
soon
we
have
new
parking
pay
stations
that
are
hopefully
going
to
be
installed
within
the
next
couple
months,
and
those
new
pay
stations
will
allow
us
to
more
dynamically,
both
communicate,
what
the
rates
are
and
and
charge
appropriately
based
on
on
location
and
time.
E
B
Thanks
adam,
I
had
almost
the
exact
same
question,
but
so
that's
great
to
hear
chris
that
we'll
have
that
ability
soon
and
would
that
be
just
like
pre-inputting
parking
prices
at
different
times
of
day
or
would
we
have
potential
the
capability
to
do
dynamic
pricing
based
on
demand
at
the
time.
E
That's
a
really
good
question.
I
I
would
need
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
specific
nuances
of
just
how
dynamic
we
can
be
with
pricing.
E
We
will
be
able
the
great
thing
about
the
new
pay
stations
is.
We
can
program
to
remote
them
remotely
as
opposed
to
right
now
we
have
to
go
to
each
individual
station
to
make
a
change
and
then
their
ability
to
process
different
times
a
day
is
just
it
doesn't
exist,
but
our
new
pay
stations
are
much
more
dynamic.
E
I'd
say
that
let
us
go
back
to
work
on
these
strategies.
We
want
to
leave
a
strategy
that
that
adequately
takes
into
the
input
that
we're
receiving
from
you
all
this
evening
in
the
community.
We'll
certainly
make
sure
that
it
fits
within
the
the
extremes
of
what
our
parking
base
stations
can
manage.
F
I
think
the
goals
are
quite
good.
The
the
one
thing
I
would
say,
I
guess
thinking
about
both
fines
and
parking
pricing-
is
I'm
interested
in
hearing
about
increasing
funds
for
repeat
offenses.
So
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
you
know,
presumably
with
fines,
we're
trying
to
discourage
a
behavior,
and
you
know
escalating.
Fines
are
a
way
of
making
the
point
that
you
clearly
mean
it.
F
I
I
don't
think
it
has
to
be
super
high,
but
I
think
it
you
know,
needs
to
escalate
and
then
plateau
to
make
the
point
that
if
it's
just
a
once
in
a
while
mistake,
it
shouldn't
be
a
huge
penalty.
But
if
you
are
abusing
the
system,
because
you
have
a
lot
of
money
and
you
you
choose
to
do
it
that
way,
I'd
rather
have
that
pinch
a
little
bit.
I
guess
the
other
thing
is.
F
B
G
Thank
you
aaron.
Well,
first,
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
the
first
one
is
what
is
going
to
happen
to
the
three
from
three
to
three.
E
Good
question
mary:
it
is
being
considered,
of
course,
as
part
of
our
look
at
parking
pricing.
Our
consultant
has
been
giving
us
rave
reviews
on
on
the
product.
So
we're
pleased
that
folks,
who
have
seen
what
we've
done
think
that
it
was
a
good
smart
move
to
help
solve
some
of
our
challenges.
So
I
would
be
surprised
if
it's
not
included
in
our
strategies
moving
forward
whether
it's
still
called
three
for
three
till
three.
E
G
That's
good
to
hear
that's
the
best
program
ever
and
then.
My
second
question
is,
as
we
know,
the
the
whole
parking
scheme
downtown
has
changed
due
to
covet
and
we've
heard
a
lot
from
a
lot
of
people
that
want
to
make
that
permanent
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
are
making
adjustments
or
adjustments
and
what
kinds
of
adjustments
you
are
making
to
take
that
into
consideration.
G
No,
no,
no,
the
the
the
the
use
of
a
lot
of
parking
spaces
for
outdoor
seating
and
to
make
that
a
permanent
feature
of
downtown.
E
And
I
that
did
speak
to
this
a
little
bit
before
I'd
say
that
there
is
well
that
the
the
curb
side
and
the
business
response
program
that's
currently
going
on
is
is
one
program
that
that
we
will.
It
will
need
to
come
to
an
end
when
the
emergency
orders
come
to
an
end,
because
our
current
ordinances
that
exist
outside
of
our
emergency
orders
don't
allow
us
to
have
people
go
and
put
structures
in
the
public
right-of-way
without
some
sort
of
more
thorough
process.
E
That
said,
I
do
know
that
there
is
curbside
management
work,
that's
planned
by
transportation,
and
they
are
really
as
part
of
public
works.
They
they
have
the
the
greatest
purview
over
what
we
collectively
do
with
the
public
right-of-way,
where
community
vitality
does
step
in
and
manage
the
right-of-way
when
it's
designated
to
be
parking
for
vehicles,
and
so
it's
certainly
a
question
that
that
will
continue
to
come
up
throughout
the
the
year
and
probably
years
ahead,
and
we
are
certainly
interested
in
working
with
transportation
and
the
community,
the
downtown
business
community
on
envisioning.
N
And
chris,
let
me
just
add
there:
there
are
also
some
transit
access
issues
and
circulation
issues
that
you
know
also
need
to
be
addressed,
post
covet
as
well.
You
know,
we've
had
a
reroute
bus
routes
and
everything
as
well.
So
that's
just
another
impact
of
the
program
that
you
know
we'll
have
to
look
at
in
the
future
and
address
see
how
we
evolve.
G
Thank
you
for
that,
chris
and
chris
and
other
than
that.
I
think
these
goals
are
as
stamp
set
pretty
clear
and
I
think
we'll.
I
look
forward
to
the
outcomes
thanks.
B
Mary
I'll
I'll
call
on
myself
and
I'll
agree.
I
think
these
goals
look
great.
I
I
think
this
is
an
exciting
sort
of
rebalancing
of
our
parking
pricing
and
fine
approach.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
what
you
come
up
with.
To
be
clear,
I
mean
I
was
asking
about
dynamic
pricing.
I'm
curious
if
it's
a
possibility,
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
that
you
know
that
the
price
should
go
through
the
roof
if
five
minutes
ago,
you
know
the
second
to
last
open
space
was
taken
on
the
street.
B
You
know
not
not
necessarily
saying
we
should
do
things
like
that,
but
be
interesting
to
know.
If
the
capability
is
there
and
what
you
might
do
with
it,
but
it
does
seem
like
our
parking
pricing
should
be
a
little
bit
more
dynamic
than
it
is
right
now.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
the
new
pay
stations
will
have
that
capability.
B
You
know,
I'm
sure
you
all
are
familiar
with
donald
trump's
work.
You
know
about
the
high
high
cost
of
free
parking
and
part
of
the
the
stuff
he
talks
about
is
making
sure
that
pricing
is
set
such
that
there's
generally
an
open
space.
You
know
somewhere
not
too
far
away
and
that
if
your
pricing
is
super
low,
then
there'll
never
be
any
open
spaces
anywhere.
So
I
imagine
you
all
are
keeping
that
kind
of
principle
in
mind,
so
look
forward
to
seeing
where
you
go
with
that.
B
B
I'm
never
coming
back
again
and
I
think
that's
not
very
reasonable,
but
but
if
the,
if
the
first
fine
were
you
know,
200,
it
might
be
a
little
bit
more
understandable
right,
so
something
that's
a
little
a
little
kinder
to
people
who
it's
their
first
time
ever,
but
then
maybe
ramps
up
for
multiple
offenses
might
be
a
good
approach.
B
B
All
right
can
we
can
we
flip
to
that
last
question
then
chris
I'll
just
read
that
real,
quick
in
the
development
of
possible
pricing,
parking
pricing
and
fine
strategies.
How
would
council
prioritize
the
use
of
following
quantitative
data
collection
and
analysis
of
parking
activity
and
commercial
zones
generalized,
qualitative
business
and
customer
needs
communicated
by
community
stakeholders
and
broader
long-term
city
goals,
city-wide
goals,
and
just
while,
I'm
talking
I'll
just
say
I
you
know
you
all
get
to
balance
that
they're
all
important
it'll
be
helpful
again,
any
other
thoughts
from
council.
B
E
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
our
next
steps
and
make
sure
that
there
weren't
any
questions
on
where
we're
headed
next.
So,
based
on
this
input,
we
will
further
develop
some
strategies
and
move
into
our
alternatives.
Analysis.
I
would
say
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
consultant
team
and
the
rest
of
the
project
team,
but
I
think
this
input
has
been
extremely
helpful
for
help
for
us
in
our
our
next
steps
in
moving
forward
some
clear.
E
Well,
while
the
guidance
was
diverse,
I'd
say
that
it's
exactly
what
we
needed
so
we'll
look
forward
to
taking
this
back
and
and
getting
some
more
work
done
with
the
community
we'll
be
meeting
with
boards
and
commissions
over
the
the
coming
months
and
look
forward
to
bringing
some
more
thought
out
and
developed
concepts
for
and
specific
concepts
for
council
to
consider
in
the
second
quarter.
B
Well,
thank
you
so
much
to
the
chris's
and
mallory
and
other
folks.
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation
and
the
work
and
really
look
forward
to
seeing
what
you
come
up
with
next
counsel.
Anybody
else
have
any
final
thoughts,
or
should
we
let
them
go.
B
I
All
right
for
the
last
item
for
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
first
to
amanda
cole,
who
is
our
alpine
balsam
implementation
project
manager.
T
B
T
Make
sure
I
could
advance
the
slide
okay
tonight.
Our
update
is
more
of
a
status
update
on
what
we
worked
on
last
year,
related
to
alpine
balsam
and
what
our
key
initiatives
are
for
2021.
So
I
have
a
brief
background
on
what
the
project
is,
where
it's
located.
What
the
area
plan
says
we'll
run
through
the
various
projects
that
we're
working
on
related
to
the
site,
update
on
the
timeline
and
the
budget
and
our
main
question
for
you
all
tonight
is:
do
you
have
any
feedback
on
our
2021
key
priorities
with
that?
T
The
city
purchased
alpine
balsam
in
2015,
followed
by
an
adoption
of
the
vision
plan
in
2017
and
renovation
of
the
britain
building
in
2018,
which
is
the
current
location
of
some
city
offices,
as
well
as
some
customers
customer
facing
operations
in
2019
city
council
adopted
the
alpine
balsam
area
plan
and
the
boulder
community
hospital
moved
out
its
last
operations
to
its
foothills
campus,
and
then
last
year
we
had
been
focused
on
concluding
the
evaluation
to
consider
county
services
at
alpine
balsam.
Some
of
you
may
remember
that
process
we
were
considering
moving.
T
The
county
service
is
currently
located
at
iris
and
broadway
to
alpine
balsam
and
determined,
wouldn't
be
the
best
use
or
the
best
utilization
of
our
time,
based
on
a
city
county
working
group
and
based
on
that
decision,
we've
reconsidered
the
parcel
previously
identified
as
county
services
as
affordable
housing.
Also
in
2020
we
began
the
interior
hospital
deconstruction.
So
michelle
will
talk
more
about
that
and
we
began
many
of
our
engineering
and
technical
contracts.
T
So
that's
the
focus
of
tonight
is
to
tell
you
what
we've
been
up
to
as
well
as
talk
about
how
this
timeline
extends
into
2021
and
just
to
review.
What
the
area
plan
says.
This
is
a
picture
of
the
site
plan,
so
alpine
balsam
is
located
just
north
of
pearl
street
off
of
broadway
between
9th
alpine
and
balsam
avenues.
T
This
picture
has
the
land
use
colors
on
it,
and
so
I'm
reading
from
the
top
left
corner.
Those
colors
mean
brown
is
residential,
purple
is
mixed
use
and
blue
is
public,
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
just
as
a
reminder
of
what
the
area
plan
says
for
each
of
these
parcels,
beginning
with
residential
and
mixed
use.
So
those
are
parcels
a
b
c
and
d.
T
A
is
intended
for
low
density
town
homes,
likely
market
rate
persons
b
and
d
they're
in
the
in
the
middle
are
intended
to
be
affordable
apartment
style
buildings
with
parcel
c
being
a
flex
mix,
use
building,
likely
affordable
housing
with
some
community
focused
commercial
uses.
On
the
ground
floor,
the
western
city
campus
includes
parcels
e,
f
and
g
with
e
being
the
current
pavilion
office.
T
Lastly,
one
of
the
big
programmatic
elements
of
this
site
is
the
infrastructure
and
that's
the
blue
and
green
horizontal
vertical
stripes
that
you
see.
One
of
the
main
facets
is
the
flood
mitigation.
This
site
is
located
in
the
100
year.
Floodplain.
The
alpine
balsam
area
plan
tells
us
to
mitigate
the
100
year,
flood
along
balsam
avenue.
That's
that
blue
stride
that
runs
horizontally
along
balsam,
as
well
as
improving
walkability
safety
and
connections
with
the
connections
plan.
T
That's
more
detailed
in
the
area
plan,
so
there's
lots
that
we
need
to
work
on
before
we
can
translate
the
area
plan
and
this
intended
vision
into
reality.
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
michelle
to
talk
about
some
of
those
initial
projects,
including
hospital
deconstruction
and
the
pavilion
renovation.
V
V
So,
while
we
have
this
big
hole
in
the
subterranean
area
exposed
and
we're
pushing
dirt
around
on
the
site,
it
will
be
advantageous
that
we
are
pushing
it
around
in
a
way
that
kind
of
paves
the
way
for
future
projects,
and
so,
as
part
of
the
exterior
deconstruction
design
work.
We've
been
coordinating
extensively
with
all
the
future
infrastructure
projects
so
that
we
can
really
make
progress
in
on
those
projects
through
the
completion
of
our
own
deconstruction
project
and
amanda
will
talk
again
more
about
some
of
those
projects
in
just
a
moment.
V
So
to
this
end,
we've
been
working
in
close
partnership
with
our
climate
initiatives
group
to
develop
avenues
for
reuse
such
as
auctioning
off
building
materials
and
then
inventorying
and
tracking
everything
that's
leaving
the
site.
We've
also
been
profiling
dumpsters.
So
this
has
been
an
effort,
I'll
make
sure
one
that
we've
got
the
right
materials
going
into
each
one
of
these
either
recycling
containers
or
into
dumpsters,
but
also
just
to
understand
what
it
is
that
is
going
to
landfills.
V
And
what
we
have
found
so
far
is
that
90
of
what
we're
seeing
going
into
the
dumpsters
is
drywall.
And
so
this
has
been
really
interesting.
And
with
this
knowledge,
it
makes
us
think
about
future
renovation
projects
and
work
and
how
we
use
drywall
and
maybe
start
to
con
other
kinds
of
systems
and
components
that
are
easier
to
recycle
or
reuse
at
their
end
of
life
versus
using
something
like
drywall.
V
We'll
also
continue
with
the
tracking
and
reporting
on
the
materials
that
are
leaving
the
site,
and
in
this
exterior
phase,
we
really
expect
to
see
the
amount
of
recycled
materials
go
way
up
as
we
get
into
exterior
deconstruction,
and
we
really
we
track
by
weight,
mostly
those
materials
leaving
the
site.
When
steel
and
concrete
start
to
come
into
this
mix.
That's
really
when
we
see
that
recycled
contact
go
up
and
that's
how
our
codes
actually
measure
and
and
prescribe
the
amount
of
recycled
material
that
we
need
through
deconstruction.
V
V
We
have
been
engaging
our
structural
engineers
who
are
actually
working
on
our
fire
station
three
to
consider
directly
cutting
out
and
deconstructing
the
steel
in
the
building
and
directly
using
that
in
future
city
building
projects.
And
specifically,
we
are
looking
at
how
much
and
and
to
what
degree
we
could
reconstruct
or
construct
the
new
fire
station
3
from
the
steel
and
the
hospital.
V
And
so
the
last
thing
that
we
will
do
on
the
hospital
is
we
near
end
of
the
completion
of
the
project?
Is
conduct
a
life
cycle
assessment
of
the
embodied
energy
and
what
was
preserved
through
some
of
our
reuse
activities.
So
when
we
purchased
the
site
back
in
2015,
we
bought
essentially
four
buildings.
We
bought
the
brenton
building
the
parking
structure,
the
pavilion
building
and
the
hospital
in
the
first
three.
V
We
are
directly
reusing
those
buildings
and
those
first
three
are
also
all
constructed
of
concrete
and
concrete
is
a
material
that
holds
by
far
the
most
embodied
energy
of
building
materials,
the
hospital's,
a
composition
of
steel
frame
and
concrete,
and
so
after
we
deconstruct
and
we
find
out
just
how
much
steel
we
could
directly
reuse
in
future
city
building
projects.
We
will
conduct
this
life
cycle
assessment
and
essentially
net.
V
What
did
we
lose?
What
was
the
embodied
energy
lost
through
deconstruction
versus
what
we've
been
able
to
preserve
through
either
full
building
reuse
on
the
site
or
just
reuse
of
building
components,
and
so
this
will
all
be
included
in
part
of
our
final
analysis
and
kind
of
report
on
the
project
and
then
will
be
available
to
inform
future
city
policy
and
just
direction
on
construction
projects.
V
V
Slide
so
now,
turning
to
the
pavilion's
renovation
and
the
development
of
a
consolidated
city
service
hub,
the
key
aspects
of
this
project
were
to
centralize
city
services
that
are
currently
scattered
across
town
to
better
serve
our
community
and
provide
a
one-stop
service
hub.
We'll
also
be
able
to
consolidate
city
staff
out
of
four
and
possibly
more
buildings
onto
this
one
site
and
remove
buildings
from
the
high
hazard,
flood
zone
or
repurpose
some
other
buildings
for
better
uses
and
through
consolidation.
V
V
So
we
do
plan
to
continue
and
start
design
work
early
this
year,
and
this
will
then
include
the
renovation
work
on
the
pavilion
pavilion
building
itself
and
then
the
surrounding
site.
Next,
the
other
two
buildings
kind
of
to
create
that
city
hub
and
we
plan
to
engage
the
community
early
in
this
design.
Work
to
help
inform
a
lot
around
the
city
services
that
are
provided
here,
as
well
as
other
kind
of
community
uses
that
we
could
have
on
the
site.
V
The
project
will
go
through
the
full
regulatory
development
review
process,
and
so
we
anticipate
trying
to
submit
for
concept
review
later
in
2021,
and
so
council
will
continue
to
have
an
opportunity
to
see
the
project
throughout
that
regulatory
project
process
and,
as
we
make
progress
on
the
design
and
the
site's
development,
we'll
refine
our
cost
estimates
to
take
into
account
also
the
cost
duration
from
those
other
buildings
that
we'll
be
consolidating
out
of
and
onto
the
site.
T
Thanks
michelle,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
on
the
next
couple
of
slides
about
other
critical
projects
that
advance
the
alpine
balsam
redevelopment
project,
beginning
with
flood
mitigation,
so
flood
in
the
area
plan.
It
tells
us
where
we
should
mitigate
the
flood.
The
work
that
we
started
in
2020
was
to
tell
us
how
to
do
that
from
an
energy
or
an
engineering
perspective.
T
So
we
hired
a
consultant
to
look
at
different
alternatives
to
build
the
greenway
alpine
balsam
and
remove
the
site
from
the
floodplain.
We've
arrived
at
a
preferred
design
that
is
realistic
from
an
engineering
perspective.
It
aligns
with
the
area
plan
and
so
the
the
graphic
that's
shown
here
is
a
technical,
drawing
that
depicts
an
open
channel
greenway,
meaning
that
it's
not
a
underground
pipe.
Rather,
it's
an
exposed,
naturalized
greenway,
similar
to
other
projects
that
we
have
in
the
city.
T
So
it
does
successfully
remove
the
pavilion
building
from
the
floodplain,
as
well
as
the
heart
housing
parcels,
which
is
necessary
to
qualify
for
federal
funds.
It
aligns
with
the
city's
flood
program
and
the
upcoming
goose
creek
master
plan,
and
it
uses
less
developable
area
than
originally
intended.
We
originally
thought
this
may
be
about
100
feet
wide.
This
is
looking
at
about
60
feet,
wide
granted
that
doesn't
include
landscape
buffers
and
other
right-of-way
necessary
activities
there,
whereas
it
still
does
preserve
all
of
the
intent
of
the
area
plan
and
provides
a
buffer
on
balsam.
T
T
That
study
is
underway
and
will
will
have
the
results
of
the
study
in
late
february.
What
we're
looking
at
right
now
is
regulatory,
financial
and
construction
potential
barriers
to
make
sure
that
any
solutions
or
packages,
solutions
that
are
delivered
to
the
city
are
feasible
and
implementable.
Alongside
the
redevelopment.
T
This
is
a
really
cool
study
because
it
has
a
potential
to
lower
utility
rates
and
increase
resiliency
for
the
future
residents
and
the
office
occupants,
and
it
could
be
a
model
for
other
boulder
projects
and
it
will
be
a
really
good
test
model
to
see
what
types
of
energy
efficient
infrastructure
is
successful.
On
a
mixed-use
site
like
this,
so
we
will
receive
recommendations
in
late
february.
T
The
graphics
shown
here
is
it's
technical.
It's
a
draft,
it's
more
to
depict
how
we
might
look
at
connecting
this
site
and
potentially
building
a
geothermal
field
which
are
the
dots
along
the
top
that
could
go
under
the
flood
mitigation,
greenway,
potentially,
and
also
looking
at
interconnecting
the
buildings
through
a
micro
grid,
and
so
that's
just
to
kind
of
show.
The
way
that
we're
looking
at
this
study.
T
T
It
would
not
have
been
allowed
in
the
previous
zoning
and
form-based
code
will
create
predictability
to
the
development
review
process
and
add
value
to
the
parcels,
and
we've
done
this
in
boulder
before
so.
The
big
work
of
2021
is
to
develop
the
form
based
code
and
perform
the
community
engagement
and
adoption
process.
This
will
allow
us
to
understand
better
what
reasonable
expectations
we
have
for
housing
developers
on
this
site.
It'll
be
a
good
chance
for
the
community
to
be
involved
and
design
outcomes
based
on
the
area
plan's
intent.
T
And
lastly,
I
wanted
to
mention:
we
have
done
some
work
related
to
housing
scenario,
analyses
we
hired
a
consultant
last
year,
pre-covered
to
evaluate
financial
and
program
programming
scenarios,
meaning
what
target
markets
might
we
might
we
want
to
ask
for
what
makes
what
makes
a
developer
be
able
to
pencil
a
a
development
here?
What
subsidy
would
that
require
that
kind
of
work?
We
we
started
that
in
2020.
We
have
some
good
initial
analysis.
T
We
paused
it
during
covid
to
pick
up
once
we
understood
market
conditions
better,
but
I
did
want
to
bring
it
up
because
I
think
in
2021
later
this
year,
once
we
have
the
form
base
code
and
some
of
our
other
construction
projects
underway
it'll
be
a
good
time
to
revisit
the
work
that
we
started.
Involve
council
in
the
community
on
what
expectations
might
be
realistic
in
terms
of
housing
outcomes
on
the
site,
the
the
picture
shown
here.
T
It's
really
just
a
more
detailed
version
of
what's
in
the
area
plan,
we're
looking
through
what's
reasonable
in
terms
of
designing
the
buildings,
how
much
units
to
expect
how
much
does
that
cost
etc.
So
I
think
later
this
year
would
be
a
great
time
to
pick
that
work
back
up
related
to
timing.
This
is
an
overall
timeline
of
our
priorities.
For
this
year,
the
yellow
stars
designate
the
community
engagement
opportunities.
T
So
I'm
going
to
read
left
to
right,
starting
in
march,
like
I
said,
we're
intending
to
do
a
public
presentation
on
the
energy
analysis
towards
the
spring,
we'll
be
communicating
about
our
flood
mitigation
design
and
submitting
for
local
and
federal,
permitting,
as
well
as
beginning
our
rezoning
and
for
base
code,
community
engagement
and
issuing
the
rfp
and
selecting
a
contractor
for
the
pavilion
renovation
design
towards
the
summer.
T
First,
being
the
flood
mitigation
that
estimates
coming
in
about
2.6
million
dollars
right
now,
it's
funded
through
existing
cip.
The
other
two
projects
are
currently
unfunded.
One
is
being
is
the
energy
infrastructure,
so
the
results
of
the
study
we're
conducting
right.
Now
we
don't,
we
don't
know
those
costs
yet
we'll
know
those
soon.
T
This
could
be
a
good
opportunity
for
grant
and
partnership
opportunities
and
then
the
third
bucket
is
really
just
the
other
horizontal
infrastructure,
such
as
roads,
sidewalks,
underground
utilities.
We
don't
have
costs
for
those
either
that'll
be
dependent
on
designs
that
have
not
been
completed
yet.
But
it's
also
unfunded
that
is
dependent
on
what
we
call
our
delivery
strategy,
which
is
in
the
box
on
the
right
and
I'll
circle
back
to
in
a
moment,
I
did
want
to
provide
an
update
on
the
fema
brick
grant,
which
is
just
one
example
of
creative
funding
opportunities.
T
We're
looking
at
so
brick
stands
for
building
resilient
infrastructure
and
communities.
It's
a
new
grant
program
offered
by
fema
they're,
looking
to
be
more
creative
about
hazard
prevention
projects
across
the
nation
looking
to
mitigate
risks
caused
by
natural
disasters.
We
thought
it
could
be
well
suited
for
the
flood
mitigation
and
energy
infrastructure
projects.
T
So,
unfortunately,
we
decided
that
we
would.
We
would
not
be
well
positioned
for
this
grant
opportunity
and
we
did
learn
that
all
of
the
energy
micro
grid
projects
in
the
state
that
had
considered
applying
for
this
grant
withdrew
for
the
same
reasons
that
we
did.
But
we
are
hopeful
to
continue
working
with
the
state,
maybe
apply
in
the
next
cycle.
If
there
is
an
opportunity-
and
we
could
be
well
positioned
to
do
that.
T
However,
I
don't
think
this
is
the
only
opportunity
for
us,
it's
just
an
example
of
other
options
that
we
may
have
to
fund
projects
on
the
site,
just
circling
back
to
the
delivery
strategy
concept,
so
the
city
will
need
to
make
a
choice
about
how
much
to
invest
in
the
site
to
prepare
for
redevelopment
on
one
side.
We
can
invest
more,
we
could
build
out
ourselves
the
energy
infrastructure
and
all
of
the
roads,
sidewalks
utilities
that
could
could
result
in
higher
land
values.
It
would
certainly
create
more
consistency
across
the
site.
T
T
However,
you
will
see
an
upcoming
city
council
agenda
item
on
february,
9th
the
culture
community,
culture
and
safety
tax
renewal.
We
have
listed
alpine
balsam
as
an
unfunded
project
that
you'll
see
in
your
memo
packet,
and
I
wanted
to
explain
that.
That's
the
energy
infrastructure
and
horizontal
infrastructure
projects
are
what
we
mean
by
those
unfunded
needs
and
the
city
will
be
able
to
make
a
choice
on
whether
to
fulfill
those
unfettered
needs
or
not
at
a
later
time,
and
with
that,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
B
Thanks
so
much
for
that
amanda
and
also
michelle,
appreciate
all
the
information
questions
for
staff
or
comments.
F
So
I
just
want
to
start
by
saying
what
a
phenomenal
and
phenomenally
interesting
project
this
is.
I
just
took
notes
they're
all
in
the
presentation,
but
we
have
the
deconstruction
work,
which
has
its
own
thing.
We
have
the
flood
management
and
mitigation.
F
There's
the
renewable
energy,
energy
efficiency,
heating
district
work,
there's
form
based
code,
and
then
we
have
a
mixed
housing
and
affordable
housing
project
as
well,
and
that
doesn't
even
touch
on
the
financial
pieces.
So
I
just
want
to
say:
there's
a
ton
here.
I
really
appreciate
the
project
management.
That's
been
going
on
around
this
because
we
had
all
this
potential
and
it's
great
to
see
that
potential
being
realized,
so
fantastic
work.
I
have
a
few
questions
and
then
I'm
going
to
make
a
few
comments
and
I'll
be
done.
F
F
We
heard
some
mention
that
the
flood
mitigation
work
would
reduce
some
of
the
flooding
on
night,
and
I
know
that
we
have
a
lot
of
standing
water
whenever
there's
a
heavy
rain
event
in
north
boulder
park
as
well,
which
must
not
be
great
necessarily
for
what
goes
on
there.
So
how?
How
do
we
expect
this
flood
work
to
impact
the
the
flooding
on
night,
but
also
the
the
north
boulder
park,
and
what
will
the
impacts
be
on
north
boulder
park?.
T
T
T
If
we
are
successful
in
building
the
inlet
under
9th
street,
that
would
be
the
mechanism
that
would
dry
up
or
discontinue
the
flooding
that
happens
on
9th
the
feasibility
that
we
need
to
work
through
in
2021,
related
to
the
inlet
and
under
9th
street
work.
There's
a
farmer's,
ditch
there
and
there's
some
engineering
that
we
would
need
to
verify
can
be
possible
to
not
intervene
with
the
ditch,
but
also
create
the
gravity,
that's
needed
to
get
the
inlet
and
the
water
over
to
the
greenway.
T
It
is
a
priority
for
the
goose
creek
master
plan
and
so
we're
working
really
closely
with
the
flood
engineers
to
hopefully
get
that
to
be
successful.
That
way,
we
could
clear
up
the
water
on
9th
street
and
balsam,
although
it
may
not
impact
kind
of
quote
the
sogginess
that
exists
in
north
boulder
park
when
it
does
rain
or
heavily
storm.
F
Park
super
great
and
two
more
quick
questions
on
the
flood
piece
of
this.
You
mentioned
the
goose
creek
master
plan
and
I
can
guess
what
that
is,
and
it
was
in
the
memo.
But
when
do
we
expect
that
master
plan
to
be
complete?
I
assume
this
is
a
major
component
upstream
of
that
and
then
the
second
question
related
is:
are
we
getting
mile
high
flood
district
support
for
this
project,
or
is
it
all
cip.
T
That's
also
a
great
question:
I
will
need
to
get
back
to
you
on
the
exact
dates
of
the
adoption
of
the
goose
creek
master
plan.
I
do
know
it
was
going
through
rab
during
this
month,
which
I
think
was
their
first
opportunity
to
see
it.
So
my
I'm
thinking
that
it
would
come
before
the
city
council
shortly.
T
T
The
challenge
that
exists
related
to
our
flooded
mitigation
project
on
the
site
is
it
doesn't
provide
any
downstream
benefits
because
we
have
to
you
know,
connect
into
the
existing
stormwater
infrastructure.
However,
this
is
a
critical
component
to
building
out
the
most
up
water
upstream
benefits
of
the
goose
creek
master
plan.
T
F
Cool,
that's
great,
so
I'll
just
make
a
few
comments,
real,
quick.
That
are
more
specific.
I
think
it
is
great
michelle
that
you
talked
about
learning
from
the
deconstruction,
because
I
I
know
when
we
were
starting
this
project
and
looking
at
trade-offs
on
deconstruction,
we
saw
the
denver
hospitals
that
have
been
just
completely
torn
down
and
everything
went
into
the
landfill,
and
so
I
I
think
this
is
great
and
there's
a
few
things.
I
think
you
mentioned
code
updates.
F
I
think
that's
great,
because
we'll
understand
some
practical,
you
know
what
can
be
done
and
then
I
think
really
important
is
the
cost.
We
always
hear
you
know
about
the
costs
and
so
having
done
a
major
deconstruction
like
this,
I
just
think
it's
critical
that
we
track
all
those
costs
and
that
we,
you
know,
are
able
to
answer
questions
as
we
look
at
our
code,
people
will
ask:
oh
if
you
do
that,
what
does
it
cost
additional,
and
so
we
will
have
done
it
and
paid
the
bills.
F
So
I
think
that's
really
helpful
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
people.
When
you
talk
about
embodied
energy,
I
think
people
lose
reference
points
in.
In
other
words,
it's
so
much.
You
know,
carbon
dioxide
was
emitted
in
the
creation
of
this,
and
so
there's
all
this
embedded
emissions
and
energy.
It
will
be
really
interesting
to
know
how
that
compares
to
operating
energy,
because
operating
energy
is
a
cost
that
you
pay
for
the
entire
life
of
the
building
and
embedded
energy.
F
You
pay
once,
and
so
I
don't
know
how
to
really
get
at
this.
But
I
just
thought
I
would
flag
that,
when
you're
assessing
kind
of
what
you've
learned,
comparing
it
to
both
the
operating
energy
as
the
building
was
before
it
was
deconstructed,
and
then
the
operating
energy
expected
with
the
new
facilities
that
will
kind
of
be
in
that
same
footprint,
and
I
expect
that
will
be
a
lot
less.
F
The
operating
energy
of
the
new
building
will
be
a
lot
less
so
some
way
to
get
folks
be
able
to
wrap
their
heads
around
it,
because
I
have
trouble
with
it,
and
I
expect
others
might
as
well.
So
some
way
to
make
that
learning
accessible
to
to
all
of
us
would
be
great,
but
I
think
that's
just
super
interesting.
What's
going
on
with
the
reuse
of
the
material
and
if
we
can
reuse
the
steel
on
the
fire
station,
that's
fantastic!
F
So
then
the
other
piece
I
wanted
to
flag-
which
I
think
is
great,
is
we
talk
about
a
micro
grid
on
the
site
and
much
of
the
discussion
we
had
with
excel
during
our
partnership
discussions.
You
know
kind
of
use
this
as
an
exemplar
project
and
I
think
that's
all
great
on
the
electrical
side.
I
think
what's
really
neat
here
is
what
was
called
the
memo.
F
A
thermal
micro
grid
right
so
that's
heating,
and
how
do
we
do
the
most
effective
and
efficient
heating
for
all
the
buildings
on
the
site,
water,
heating
and
space
heating
and
I'll
just
point
out
and
I'm
sure
some
people
know
it
but
I'll
flag
it
for
everybody,
it's
very
popular
in
europe
to
do
what's
called
here,
a
thermal
micro
grid
over
there
it's
called
district
heating
and
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
learn
from
this
project.
F
Maybe
europe
probably
knows
a
lot
of
this
already,
but
I
loved
the
geothermal
underneath
the
floodway
I
mean
that's
talk
about
double
dipping
or
triple
dipping.
That
is
just
a
great
potential.
If
we're
going
to
dig
it
up,
you
can
put
the
boreholes
in
for
the
geothermal
and
then
put
flood
control
on
top
of
it.
F
I
think
that's
just
super
interesting
form
based
code
I'll,
be
interested
to
see
how
that
works
out
here,
I'll
just
close
by
saying
it's
a
great
project
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but
talk
about
a
15
minute,
neighborhood
right
by
the
time
this
is
done.
You'll
have
commercial
and
and
office
on
the
site.
You'll
have
housing
on
the
site.
Probably
some
amenities
right
across
the
street
is
a
shopping
center
and
then
just
you
know
up
broadway
a
little
bit
is
a
rec
center.
B
Don't
worry
sim
thanks
mark
then
mary,
then
rachel
yeah.
A
Michelle
amanda,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
It
was
really
very,
very
well
done.
I
guess
my
questions
are
as
follows:.
A
And
so
I,
before
I
get
to
my
real
question,
you
showed
a
picture
of
the
hospital,
as
in
its
present
condition.
Is
it
now
effectively
a
clean
white
box.
V
V
V
One
of
the
big
challenges
that
we
have
seen
with
the
hospital,
with
the
exception
of
a
small
portion
of
the
towers,
is
that
one-third
of
the
hospital
is
underground,
and
so
that
becomes
a
challenge
we
just
to
get
daylight
into
that
space
and
then
the
other
component,
the
the
largest
plate
in
the
floor
plate
of
the
hospital,
is
that
first
floor
and
again
by
and
large,
it
is
very
internally
dominated
so
adaptively
reusing
that
and
trying
to
get
natural
daylight
into
spaces
and
to
use
that
for
other
uses.
That
was
one
key
hurdle.
V
The
other
piece,
too,
is
we
looked
at
it
on
the
site
as
the
building
sprawls
the
site.
It
really
worked
against
a
lot
of
the
vision
of
the
area
plan
and
just
the
way
that
we
could
utilize
that
site,
because
it
is
a
very
kind
of
haphazard,
sprawling
building
across
the
site
and
then
from
an
energy
standpoint
again.
You
know,
we've
learned
a
lot
about
the
value
of
reusing
buildings
and
we
did
that
on
the
brenton
building.
We
turned
that
from
the
city's
worst
energy
performing
building
into
one
of
the
best.
V
But
again
it
had
the
proportions
to
really
lend
itself
to
that
reuse,
and
through
that
we
had
to
rebuild
all
of
the
exterior
walls.
We
had
to
reglaze
the
entire
building,
and
so
that
is
still
something
that
even
with
a
shell,
we
essentially
have
to
rebuild
much
of
the
building
itself.
And
so,
as
we
consider
you
know,
the
cost
to
rebuilding
all
the
mechanical
systems
to
re-insulating
and
creating
a
tight
envelope
on
a
building.
A
I'm
sure
it
is,
I
guess
I
would
ask,
have
we
ever
they
brought
in
six
or
seven
major
developers,
including
developers
from
denver
and
simply
asked
the
question.
Could
you
do
anything
with
it?
What
would
you
do?
Can
you
meet
our
goals
and
our
objectives
and
use
this
building
to
do
so?.
A
A
There
may
be
no
opportunity
here
whatsoever,
but
I
think
not
taking
a
look
at
it
is
is
at
least
is
not
asking
the
question
and
I
think
that's
that's
unfortunate.
U
Michelle
this
is,
this
is
carolyn,
I
think
you
know
kristin
had
quite
a
number
of
conversations,
so
maybe
amanda.
We
can
also
include
some
summary
of
some
of
the
other
looks
into
the
reuse
that
have
undergone
she's
not
available
tonight,
but
I
think
we
can
loop
in
with
her
and
bring
that
into
the
conversation,
because.
A
U
Talk
with
some
architects,
I
think
around
that,
as
well
as
the
university
to
kind
of
explore
that
particular
structure
and
where
the
net
benefit
was
going
to
be
to
sam's
point
around
operational
energy
over
the
lifetime
versus
what
you
could
do
within
the
structure.
So
I
do
think
we
have
some
information.
We
could
certainly
share
with
you
mark
and
I
think
we'll
take
the
action
to
to
include
that
in
the
summary
notes.
Just
because
we,
I
don't
think
we
can
answer
it
adequately
tonight.
A
Yeah
just
to
finish,
because
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time,
you
know
I
certainly
acknowledge
that.
A
There's
not
a
lot
of
daylight
in
that
bottom
floor,
but
I
would
expect
that
there
are
a
bunch
of
non-profits
and
or
arts
groups
or
other
institutions
that,
for
the
right
rent
would
be
happy
to
occupy
the
space
who
can't
afford
other
spaces
in
the
community,
and
this
is
not
talking
about
affordable
commercial
as
eighty
percent
of
and
as
we
delve
eighty
percent
of
market,
this
would
just
be
cheap
space
and
I'll
bet
there
would
be
a
bunch
of
users
for
it.
A
I
Mark
I
appreciate
your
question
and
we
have
extensively
looked
at
reuse
of
the
hospital
building
and
michelle
described
a
lot
of
that.
We
also
had
an
urban
land
institute
technical
advisory
panel
examine
the
building
and
reuse
of
the
pavilion.
Their
advice
was
reuse
of
the
pavilion
makes
sense
and
that
has
guided
us
we're
in
terms
of
reuse
of
the
hospital
structure.
We're
not
headed
down
that
path
and
we've
we've
asked
council
on
three
occasions.
I
think
that
question
and
it's
been
confirmed
that
we're
we're
intending
to
to
deconstruct
that
building.
I
If
council
did
want
to
go
down
that
path,
it
really
it
it
means
we
go
back
to
the
starting
point
in
terms
of
the
area
plan,
the
vision
plan.
So
I
I
appreciate
your
interest,
but
it
would
be
a
a
pretty
big
back
step
if
we
were
to
go
down
that
road.
Okay,
I.
G
So
to
saturday's
discussion,
I
think
this
would
have
been
a
great
use
of
the
little
thermometer
indicator,
showing
that
adaptive
reuse
of
hospital
building
would
have
already
popped
the
thermometer.
G
So
I
think
that
I
appreciate
your
question
mark,
but
I
think
that
terrain
has
kind
of
left
the
station.
So,
first
of
all,
I
a
lot
of
my
comments
are
kind
of
similar
to
sam's,
with
a
kind
of
a
slightly
different
take,
but
first
of
all
yeah
project
management.
I
had
project
management
envy
on
this.
It's
just
so
there's
so
many
different
pieces
and
all
very
interesting
and-
and
you
guys
are
doing
a
fabulous
job
I
mean
just
being
so
creative,
I
just
I'm
blown
away.
G
I
am
particularly
impressed
with
the
embodied
energy
analysis
and
I
look
forward.
I
think
that's
really
really
cool,
especially
part
about
trying
to
use
it
with
in
the
fire
station
building,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
some
sort
of
a
depreciation
of
the
embodied
energy
over
the
operating
life
of
the
building.
G
I
think
that'll
tell
us
a
lot
about
how
successful
we've
been
with
the
deconstruction.
I,
the
f.
The
form
based
code
is
really
exciting
and
then
I'll
be
curious
to
see
what
they
come
up
with
the
energy
project.
The
thermal
energy
project
sounds
just
fabulous
and
definitely,
I
think,
exploring
how
we
might
be
able
to
partner
with
excel
on
that
to
help
us
maybe
financially
as
well.
G
So
that's
that's
a
huge
opportunity
right
there
and
then
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
One
question
has
to
do
with
property
h
where
the
little
red
house
used
to
stand.
I
didn't
hear
any
mention
of
that
in
the
plan,
and
so
I'm
curious
to
know
what
what
the
ultimate
use
for
that
now
empty
lot
will
be.
T
Absolutely
mary,
I'm
just
scrolling
back
up,
so
we
can
all
see
what
h
is.
So
that's
that's
currently
two
small
vacant
lots.
I
think
they
equate
to
about
a
half
an
acre.
The
area
plan
says
that
we'll
know
more
about
the
use
intended
use
of
that
vacant
lot
as
the
facilities
master
plan
progresses
and,
as
we
understand
better
market
conditions
for
the
rest
of
the
mixed
use
opportunities
on
the
site.
T
We
have
looked
at
it
either
as
maintained
as
city
services,
such
as
an
independent
building
standalone,
maybe
benefiting
some
of
our
customer
service
facing
operations
also,
it
could
be
sold
as
a
mixed
use.
Building
the
challenge
would
be
related
to
parking,
but
it
is
noted
in
the
area
plan.
The
reason
why
I
didn't
mention
it
earlier
and
we
haven't
prioritized
it
thus
far-
is
because
I
think
it'll
be
really
key.
Once
we
get
to
our
financial
strategy,
how
we
want
to
sell
off
the
residential
parcels,
do
we
need
to
fill
a
gap?
T
Are
we
looking
to
invest
more
in
horizontal
infrastructure?
Can
this
be
a
resource
for
that,
or
is
a
city-owned
priority
more
advantageous
for
that
site?
So
I
do
think
that
will
come
into
play
in
the
next
two
years.
That's
the
reason
why
we
haven't
prioritized
it
thus
far
though,
but
we
haven't
forgotten
it
either.
G
Thank
you
amanda,
and
I
think
the
sooner
we
decide
what
to
do
with
it.
The
better
people
are
starting
to
use
it
like
a
dog
park,
so
there
might
be
a
don't,
take
our
dog
park
away,
but
so
thank
you
for
that
and
then
my
final
question
is
just
about.
G
Are
you
open
to
providing
tours
of
the
deconstructed
inside
of
the
the
hospital
building?
I
think
that
would
be
really
fascinating.
V
Absolutely
it
is
exciting
to
see
inside
and
and
quite
interesting,
so
we
have
provided
tours.
I
know
to
council
multiple
times
to
just
show
the
site
and
to
inform
people
so
happy
to
do
that.
G
Yeah,
I
haven't
seen
it
since
it
was
since
before
it
was
deconstructed,
so
I'd
be
really
interested
in
doing
that,
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you
and
great
work.
I
mean
it's
impressive.
What's
been
going
on
quietly
in
the
background.
B
I
look
forward
to
getting
that
tour
when
that's
that's
allowed
also,
can
we
do
a
haunted
house
in
it
in
october
with
that?
Is
that
an
allowed
use
we've
brought.
V
B
C
It's
funny,
I
was
about
to
say
my
favorite
thing.
I've
done
on
city
council
so
far
was
the
tour
I
took
of
the
I
think
pavilion
and
then
you
know
caught
like
going
to
the
roof,
and
it
would
have
been
a
cool
haunted
house.
Then,
because
there
were,
like
you
know,
toilets
with
water
still
in
them
and
hallways
and,
like
you
know,
loose
wires
and
stuff,
so
it
was
definitely
hard
hat
situation.
So
I
I.
I
would
also
like
to
see
what
it's
looking
like
now,
but
it
has
been.
C
It
was
impressive
to
see
it
in
that
state
and
the
whole
project
is
exciting
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
it
stayed
on
track
so
well
during
pandemic,
so
well
done
and
to
mary's
point
about
the
thermometer.
The
fundraising
bar
for
people
who
weren't
at
our
retreat,
like
we're
talking
about
sort
of
creating
something,
a
visual
that
you
can
look
at
that
shows
like
you
know
here,
are
the
five
stages
of
a
project
and
we're
at
like.
C
You
know
it
would
fill
up
in
red
as
you
go
over
so
like
here
we
are
at
phase
three
and,
like
you,
don't
go
back
to
phase
one
two
and
three
because
you're
now
at
you
know,
phase
three
or
four
or
whatever.
So
I
agree
mary.
This
is
a
good
spot
for
that
and
I
I
I
think
it's
a
detriment
if
we
really
relitigate
things
that
have
already
been
well
looked
at
and
thoroughly
vetted
and
voted
on,
but
my
question,
I
think,
is
for
tom
carr.
C
I
know
that
many
of
you
have
already
done
something
like
this
and
we're
on
planning
board.
But
for
those
of
us
who
are
new,
I
think
that
we're
looking
at
you
know
later
on
this
year,
building
e
the
pavilion
I
assume
is
city
owned
and
we
will
do
a
concept
review
on
it.
C
So
I
just
wonder,
like
how
does
one
as
the
city
review
the
city's
building
and
maintain
objectivity
and
not
conflicts
like
how
do
we
guard
against
conflict
of
interest
when
the
city
is
doing
a
concept
review
of
its
own
project?
So
I
haven't
had
that
happen
yet.
D
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
remember
this.
The
criteria
for
concept,
review
concept
review
the
city
tends
to
be
tougher
on
itself
than
on
outsiders
and
anybody
who's
ever
taken
a
project
through
the
city
city,
the
city
permitting
process
knows
how
hard
that
isn't.
My
experience
is
that
the
the
regulators
don't
really
care.
If
you're
the
city,
the
city
is
the
applicant
or
not
it's,
they
do
their
job.
D
So
I
I
don't
see
a
conflict
of
interest,
but
because
it's
a
it's
a
regulatory
process
that
we
do
in
the
way
we
do
everything
else.
C
D
I
don't
think
so.
The
the
comment
I've
often
gotten
is:
why
does
the
city
have
so
much
trouble
getting
through
its
own
process
and
the
people
and
fam
will
tell
you
that
they,
whenever
they
do
a
project,
they're
treated
just
the
same
as
everybody
else.
I
I'll
just
add
rachel,
it's
pretty
common
that
we
we
apply
to
ourselves,
often
on
various
city
departments,
for
for
permitting
projects
and
whether
that's
through
land
use
processes
or
building
permits
or
any
of
our
other
regulations.
So
it's
it's
a
pretty
common
occurrence
and
tom
is
correct
that
the
criteria
are
applied
to
ourselves,
just
as
they
are,
if
not
more
rigorous
than
to
to
the
general
community.
G
All
right,
thanks,
may
I
add
just
a
little
bit
here:
rachel,
the
form
based
code
was
used
at
boulder
junction
for
some
of
the
affordable
housing
that
was
built
there
and
it
really
tended
to
streamline
the
process
a
little
bit,
and
so
I
think
that
we'll
be
able
to
benefit
from
the
form-based
code
in
this
case
as
well.
B
Good
point
thanks
mary
all
right
I'll
call
on
myself
and
because
actually
my
first
comment
was
to
be
about
the
form-based
code
which
as
well
so
that
I'm
I'm
glad
to
hear
we're
headed
in
that
direction,
because
I
think
it'll
give
a
level
of
certainty.
You
know
if
we're
going
to
be
selling
off
some
of
these
parcels
to
developers
if
we
have
a
form-based
code
that
will
dictate
very
specifically
what
has
to
go
there
and
so
that
I
think
that'll
streamline
the
process
and
give
certainty
to
developers
and
neighbors
and
other
concerned
citizens.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
great
direction
to
go.
So
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
and
I'll
echo
all
the
praise
of
my
colleagues
about
all
the
complexities
here
and
how
your
project
managing
this
this
is.
I
can
only
imagine
the
the
gantt
charts
involved
here
to
keep
this
all
going
all
together
at
the
same
time
and
emerging
in
the
right
time
frame.
So
thanks
for
for
the
fantastic
work
and
my
one
question
is
so
I
know
that
some
of
the
financial
issues
are
tbd
as
we
kind
of
develop
some
of
these
concepts
more
thoroughly.
B
T
My
initial
thought
is,
I'm
I
don't
think
we're
yet
concerned
about
the
success
of
the
project
being
dependent
on
any
one
particular
project
not
being
funded,
because
I
do
think
we
have
so
many
options
still
on
the
table
and
we
can
be
creative
about
you
know:
do
we
take
less
on
the
land
value
for
parcel
a
in
exchange
for
more
money
towards
some
horizontal
infrastructure?
I
think
there's
still
plenty
of
options
available.
T
I
would
say:
what's
probably
most
important
is
the
sequencing
and,
like
you
just
described
the
the
gantt
charts
and
how
these
are
interrelated.
It's
important
to
have
timing
and
funding
in
a
specific
way,
and
that's
we'll
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
in
2021,
trying
to
identify
exactly
what's
critical,
I
would
say
that's
probably
more
important
than
any
significant
financial
concerns.
T
However,
depending
on
where
our
costs
come
in
on
the
energy
infrastructure.
If
the
city
does
think
it's
necessary
to
build
out
energy
infrastructure,
that
may
could
be
pretty
costly,
then
I
think
we
would
need
to
decide
how
we
want
to
prioritize
that
either
by
funding
other
projects
differently
on
the
site,
we're
looking
at
other
funding
opportunities
such
as
with
excel.
But
I
appreciate
the
question:
I
don't
think
we're
that
concerned.
Yet:
okay,.
B
That's
great
to
hear,
and
just
one
follow-up
there
like
for
that
infrastructure
or
like
the
pavilion
building.
I
know
that
when
we
build
that
out,
that's
going
to
be
a
significant
price
tag
like
are
we
considering
maybe
a
bond
funding
mechanism
at
some
point
in
the
future,
or
are
we
thinking
we'll
be
paying
for
it
out
of
revenues,
or
do
we
have
a
thought
on
that?
Yet.
T
It's
earmarked
right
now
in
general
fund
as
a
bond
payment,
either
through
cops,
cops
or
another
municipal
financing.
We
would
certainly
be
borrowing
it
and
I'd
have
to
clarify
all
included
in
the
study
session.
Summary
the
specific
revenue
source
for
that
debt
service,
but
it
is
already
earmarked
in
in
this
year's
budget
book
for
the
debt
service.
B
Well,
seeing
none,
I
will
give
another
big,
thank
you
to
staff
amanda
and
michelle
and
everybody
else
for
a
great
presentation,
all
the
hard
work
that
you're
doing.
We
look
forward
to
these
later
touch
points
in
2021
to
keep
moving
the
process
forward.
B
We'll
be
hearing
a
lot
more
about
this
any
other
last
thoughts
for
us
steph.
B
Very
good,
well
with
that,
I
guess
I
will
bring
the
meeting
to
close
five
minutes
early,
any
any
debrief
for
the
evening.