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B
And
welcome
to
the
may
3rd
2022
meeting
of
the
boulder
city
council
we're
going
to
get
started
with
a
couple
of
announcements
here.
So
first
off
coveted
19
vaccinations
for
information
provider,
locations
for
free,
coveted
19
testing
go
to
www.boco.org,
covid
testing
and
the
boulder
site
is
2445.
B
Stasio
drive
that's
open
seven
days
a
week
from
8
am
to
6
pm
and
for
vaccine
information
and
provider
locations.
You
can
go
to
www.boco.org
covid
vaccine
next
2022
boards
and
commissions
recruitment.
The
regular
annual
recruitment
period
has
closed,
but
we
are
still
recruiting
for
the
following
boards.
Due
to
the
low
number
or
no
applications
being
received.
There
are
a
few
of
them
beverage
licensing.
F
B
E
B
G
B
I
I
I
I
Working
for
social
justice
is
a
moral
imperative,
especially
for
those
of
us
in
positions
of
power.
I
hope
that
all
of
you
who
are
hurting
from
this
news
and
from
the
biases
and
oppression
you
experience
every
day,
have
the
support
you
need
right
now.
If
you
or
a
loved
one
needs
more
support,
you
can
find
mental
health
information
and
resources
at
coloradocrisisservices.org.
B
J
Older
americans
month
may
2022
in
1963,
only
17
million
americans
had
reached
their
actually
yeah.
Only
17
million
americans
had
reached
their
65th
birthday
and
approximately
one-third
of
older
americans
lived
in
poverty
with
few
programs
to
meet
their
needs,
to
raise
awareness
of
the
needs
of
older
americans
and
to
honor
and
acknowledge
the
accomplishments
of
adults,
ages,
60
and
over
president
john
f
kennedy.
J
The
city
of
boulder
is
committed
to
increasing
access
to
services
that
support
aging
in
place
and
building
on
current
programs
and
services
for
older
adults.
This
commitment
ensures
that
the
sixteen
thousand
plus
older
adults
in
our
community
are
welcomed,
included
and
supported
each
may.
The
administration
for
community
living
sets
the
theme
for
older
americans
month
and
this
year
the
focus
is
on
exploring
the
ways
older
adults
can
remain
and
stay
involved
in
their
communities
as
they
age.
The
theme
is
timely,
as
colorado
is
the
second
fasting
aging
state
in
the
nation.
J
J
In
2020,
the
housing
and
human
services
department,
in
collaboration
with
other
city
departments,
began
a
two-year
project
called
lifelong
boulder
as
part
of
a
statewide
initiative
to
make
colorado
communities
age
friendly.
In
recognition
of
these
efforts,
the
city
of
boulder
has
received
the
designation
of
a
colorado
lifelong
city.
These
efforts
lay
a
foundation
that
assures
all
residents
of
boulder
are
valued
as
they
live
work
and
age
in
our
community.
B
Thanks
so
much
for
that
tara,
very
good!
Well,
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
a
special
occasion.
We
have
the
honor
of
hosting
representatives
of
the
university
of
colorado,
who
are
going
to
come.
Tell
us
about
an
extremely
exciting
initiative
that
they're
working
on
so
lori
call.
If
maybe
I
could
hand
it
over
to
you-
and
you
can
tell
us
some
more
about
this.
K
L
Thank
you
lori
and
good
evening.
Everyone
mayor,
brockett
members
of
city
council,
I'm
phil
d
stefano
chancellor,
here
at
the
university
of
colorado,
boulder
and
c.u
boulder,
is
thrilled
to
co-host
the
right
here
right
now
global
climate
summit
in
this
december
with
the
united
nations
office
of
the
high
commissioner
for
human
rights.
The
event
is
guided
by
the
idea
that
climate
change
has
become
a
humanitarian
crisis
with
impacts
like
rising
sea
levels,
droughts,
wildfires,
floods,
heat
waves
and
expanding
disease
vectors.
L
Of
course,
our
community
is
no
stranger
to
serious
climate
disasters
and
how
they
impact
people's
lives.
We
know
these
impacts
are
particularly
damaging
for
marginalized
individuals.
The
climate
summit
is
focused
on
finding
solutions
and
taking
action
by
gathering
some
of
the
preeminent
human
rights
and
climate
experts,
world
leaders
and
cultural
influencers.
L
We
will
outline
concrete
actions
we
can
take
to
make
the
necessary
changes.
Cu
boulder
is
uniquely
positioned
to
convene
an
event
like
this
because
of
our
excellence
in
climate
research,
strong
track
record
on
sustainability
and
our
proficiency
in
several
areas
associated
with
human
rights,
including
law,
business
engineering
and
others.
The
summit
is
set
for
december
1
through
december
4th
on
the
cu,
boulder
campus
and
will
include
keynote
speakers
panels
and
other
activities
with
in-person
and
remote
or
virtual
components.
L
We
were
thrilled
to
announce
our
first
keynote
speaker
two
weeks
ago,
mary
robinson,
she
is
the
former
president
of
ireland,
former
un
commissioner
of
human
rights
and
a
best-selling
author,
an
advocate
focused
on
climate
change,
with
the
visibility
of
this
event,
and
so
many
high-caliber
individuals
becoming
involved.
The
summit
will
be
a
tremendous
opportunity
to
showcase
not
just
the
university
but
the
entire
boulder
community,
and
highlight
our
commitment
to
these
issues.
L
The
city
of
boulder
has
set
numerous
specific
goals
around
climate
action,
and
I
know
that
cu
boulder
shares
the
same
concerns
and
a
and
ambitions
when
it
comes
to
addressing
this
problem.
So
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
collaborate
and
amplify
the
goals
and
solutions
that
arise
from
the
summit.
My
colleague,
john
leslie
will
share
a
few
of
the
ideas
we
are
considering
for
integrating
the
local
community
into
the
event,
and
we
would
love
to
hear
your
ideas
for
what
else
we
can
do.
So.
M
So
as
we
started
developing
the
overall
agenda
for
the
summit,
it
became
clear
based
on
the
interest
and
some
initial
conversations
with
jonathan's
staff
that
we
needed
to
really
start
building
some
local
programming
into
this
to
really
capitalize
on
the
expertise
we
have
here
in
the
local
community.
Also,
it
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
bring
the
front
range
and
colorado
as
a
whole
into
the
conversations
that
will
be
taking
place
december
1st
through
4th.
M
So
some
of
the
ideas
we
have
focus
on
bringing
our
own
faculty
expertise,
some
of
the
local
federal
labs,
some
k-12
content
and
activation
opportunities,
but
also
some
programming
here
in
the
city
during
the
dates
of
the
event
that
could
include
evening
receptions
other
programming,
the
use
of
venues
in
the
city
and
really
the
opportunity
to
combine
both
this
global
expertise
that
we'll
be
bringing
to
boulder
with
the
local
expertise
we
have
here
in
town.
So
we've
had
some
initial
kind
of
speculative
conversations.
M
We
see
opportunities
for
some
lead
up
events
that
can
really
help
the
community
understand
how
it
can
be
a
part
of
this,
how
it
can
engage
and
how
it
can
really
show
boulder
in
its
best
light
relative
to
climate
solutions,
human
rights
and
the
things
we
can
take
action
on
together.
We're
really
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
work
with
staff
work
with
jonathan
and
the
team
to
start
bringing
those
things
together
and
with
your
endorsement
we
will.
We
are
ready
to
get
started
with
the
team
right
away.
B
Well,
thanks
so
much
for
that
john
and
phil
and
laurie.
This
is
an
incredibly
exciting
opportunity
and
what
an
honor
for
it
to
be
coming
to
boulder
and
the
university.
But
given
the
university's
status
as
a
eminent
world
research
institution
and
a
long-time
innovator
on
climate
solutions,
it's
only
appropriate.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
I
speak
for
the
whole
council
and
the
city
organization
to
say
that
we
are
ready
to
partner
with.
You,
however,
is
helpful
on
this
important
event.
So,
just
let
us
know-
and.
N
O
Just
a
procedural
question:
I
I'm
also
very
excited
and
think
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
the
city
and
grateful
for
cu
for
being
such
a
leader
within
our
community.
But
when
you
say
like,
let
us
know
when
you're
ready
do
we
have
to
like
give
an
out
of
five
or
anything
like
I'm
sure
that
we
are
all
wanting
to
right.
Can
we
just
if
there's
something
needed,
can.
B
Okay,
well
with
that,
we're
now
going
to
move
to
open
comment.
So
brenda,
are
you
going
to
do
the
announcement
here
about
protocols
very
good.
P
P
P
P
P
B
Okay
thanks
so
much
brandon
right.
Our
first
three
speakers
are
patrick
murphy,
ramsey
abuelita
and
robert
love.
P
D
D
Don't
miss
next
week's
boulder
excel
advisory
panel
since
it'll
be
three
months
before
there's
another
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
of
the
17
or
18
members
of
the
panel
actually
show
up.
It
looks
like
it's
only
about
10
that
show
up
for
the
zoom
meetings
and,
if
that's
true,
they
should
be
asked
to
participate
or
leave
and
a
replacement
assigned
I'd
love
to
be
a
replacement,
not
a
critical
point
of
view.
D
That's
mostly
missing
boulder
climate
action
is
being
led
by
leftover,
muni
personnel,
and
I
guess
the
excuse
they
like
to
use
is
we
were
just
doing
what
we
were
told.
They
were
told
to
not
include
stranded
costs,
which
would
have
been
one
of
the
largest
costs
of
the
muni
they
just
went
along.
They
were
told
they
could
take
excel
customers
and
properties
outside
of
city
limits.
D
D
A
D
C
Hi,
my
name
is
ramsey
abuela.
I
work
in
the
clinical
research
industry
and
I
live
in
boulder,
I'm
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
boulder
decriminalizing
psychedelics,
also
known
as
anthogenic
plants
and
fungi.
Our
society
is
currently
in
the
midst
of
a
psychedelic
renaissance
that
spans
multiple
domains
of
society
and
culture,
including
the
neuroscience
community,
the
medical
and
therapy
community,
the
university
research
community,
the
arts
and
music
community,
the
indigenous
community
and
so
much
more.
The
cultural
tide
is
turning
and
these
substances
are
becoming
more
normalized
and
destigmatized
and
welcomed
back
into
polite
conversation.
C
Denver
has
already
taken
the
lead
by
being
the
first
city
to
decriminalize
psilocybin
mushrooms
almost
three
years
ago
to
this
day
and
they
subsequently
published
a
report
outlining
the
impacts
decriminalization
has
had
on
the
city
and
they
unanimously
agreed
that
no
detrimental
effects
occurred
in
the
city
15
other
cities
around
the
country,
plus
the
state
of
oregon,
have
decriminalized
psychedelics.
So
we
have
plenty
of
precedent
that
shows
that
this
is
the
progressive
thing
to
do.
C
Boulder
is
already
a
cultural
and
academic
hub
for
the
world
of
psychedelics,
with
a
large
community
of
visionary
and
psychedelic
artists
such
as
the
phil
lewis
gallery
on
pearl
street
and
the
psychedelic
studies
program
at
naropa
university
maps.
The
multi-disciplinary
association
for
psychedelic
studies
also
conducts
clinical
trials
here
in
boulder
decriminalization
will
allow
boulder
to
fully
step
into
its
role
as
a
leader
for
responsible
and
safe
stewardship.
C
Of
these
powerful
tools
for
the
exploration
of
consciousness
and
healing
these
substances
are
impossible
to
get
addicted,
to
have
lots
of
evidence
backing
their
healing
potential
and
there's
already
a
thriving
legacy
community
here
in
boulder
that
has
cultivated
safe
containers
for
the
responsible
use
of
these
medicines.
The
time
is
ripe
for
decriminalization.
Thank
you.
R
Good
evening
my
name
is
dr
robert
love
phd.
I'm
a
neuroscientist
and
I
specialize
in
helping
baby
boomers,
improve
their
memory
and
reduce
their
risk
of
dementia.
Today
I
want
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
current
science
on
psychedelics
and
why
decriminalizing
psychedelics
here
in
the
city
of
boulder
will
improve
the
health
of
boulder.
R
The
current
science
shows
that
there
are
many
benefits
to
psychedelics,
specifically
for
physical,
health
and
emotional
health
and
based
upon
that
data.
I
believe
it
is
important
for
the
city
of
boulder
to
decriminalize
psychedelics,
so
that
therapists
and
patients
can
use
them
safely
without
fear
of
arrest
or
criminal
prosecution.
R
So
this
is
what
some
of
the
top
research
institutions
are
saying
in
the
united
states.
So
this
is
a
direct
quote
from
stanford
university's
school
of
medicine's
website
that
addresses
psychedelics
quote
preliminary
data
suggests
that
psychedelic
assisted
treatments
may
be
effective
for
some
of
our
most
prevalent
debilitating
and
fatal
conditions.
R
R
They
were
able
to
stop
smoking
80
of
the
time.
This
is
by
far
the
most
effective
smoking
cessation
treatment
available
today.
So
please
consider
the
science
and
data
and
take
action
to
decriminalize
psychedelic
medicines
so
that
these
medicines
are
safe
and
accessible
for
therapists
and
the
public.
Thank
you.
S
P
Then
this
is
brenda.
On
our
end,
we
have
the
timer
displayed
on
the
zoom
screen.
P
A
S
Okay,
it's
at
one
one
minute
now:
okay,
now
great
okay,
yeah,
it's
45
minutes
as
this
is
supposed
to
be
and
you've
got
it
down
council
to
like
tonight,
15
minutes.
What
is
this?
Is
this
what
you
think
of
your
public?
You
want
to
hear
us
for
15
minutes
when
there's
eight
people
signed
up.
Why
do
you
not
have
three
minutes?
S
S
There's
an
issue
out
at
spine
road
development,
of
course,
that
the
celestial
seasons
originally
had
an
agreement
that
the
prairie
dogs
there
would
have
a
habitat
preserved
for
them
in
the
process
of
selling
it
to
haynes
and
then
to
the
developer,
coburn
bill,
holike
and
andy
allison
and
putting
in
a
big
development
there.
Suddenly,
the
prairie
dogs
end
up
getting
sent
to
rocky
flats.
Well,
not
good.
We
did
not
clean
up
rocky
flats,
we
remedied
remediated,
it
shown,
but
one
of
those
euphemisms
double
speak.
S
That
is
used
in
my
opinion,
in
an
unconscionable
way
shown
by
when
others
argue
that
there
are
unknowns
about
where
plutonium
was
buried
at
rocket
flats
and
how
radiation
affects
the
body.
While
the
action
level
for
petroleum
and
soil
down
to
three
feet
was
fifty
pico
curio
from
three
to
six
feet.
Allowable
levels
were
a
thousand
to
seven
thousand.
S
He
said.
Burrowing
animals
like
paradise,
could
dig
into
the
radioactive
hot
spots
and
carry
the
dirt
to
the
surface,
said
colorado's
extreme
weather
winter
chinook
winds
reached
90
miles
an
hour
in
the
refuge
and
a
major
flood
in
september.
13
was
so
powerful.
It
changed
the
courses
of
many
front
range
rivers
could
mobilize
dangerously
contaminated
soils.
Then
we
have
fires,
there's
a
finite
risk.
T
Heaven
rabbits
north
boulder,
teddy
roosevelt,
said
behind
the
ostensible
government,
sits
enthroned
an
invisible
government
owing
no
allegiance
and
acknowledging
no
responsibility
to
the
people.
Unquote.
That
was
the
case
in
the
gilded
age
of
the
robber
barons
and
it's
the
case
now
with
oligarchs
and
plutocrats,
including
in
boulder.
T
N
T
I've
spoken
here
before
about
how
voters
have
the
incentive
to
fix
our
mistakes,
unlike
politicians
who
haven't
sent
her
incentive
to
cover
up
mistakes
to
protect
their
careers
and
their
donors.
Interests
teddy
was
right,
we're
using
direct
democracy
to
fix
our
mistakes
and
mistakes
made
by
politicians.
T
B
P
B
P
B
Right
well
and
keaton:
I'd
encourage
you
as
well
to
email
any
comments
that
you're
going
to
give
us
so
that
we
can
still
receive
them
all
right.
I
guess
with
that
somewhat
unsatisfying,
ending
to
open
comment.
We
will
move
on
apologies
for
the
technical
difficulties
right,
so
we're
moving
now
to
our
consent.
Agenda
elisha!
If
you
could
talk
us
through
that,
please.
T
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
did.
You
want
to
speak
to
that
at
all
all
right
I'll,
just
say
a
comment.
Glad
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
have
ted
rose
continue
on
the
community
working
group
for
storm
water
and
flood
master
plan
he's
been
phenomenal
on
on
rab,
and
I'm
glad
he
can
continue
to
assist
us
in
that
role.
F
No,
I
just
I'll
just
echo
kind
of
what
what
our
mayor
just
said.
I
got
the
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
actually
serve
on
this
working
group
prior
to
being
elected
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
individuals
in
this
working
group
and
ted
really
stood
out
quite
exemplary.
So
I
know
that
report
from
them
is
is
due
to
come
to
us
quite
soon,
so
allowing
him
a
chance
to
finish
that
off
and
help
finish.
It,
I
think,
is
a
great
opportunity
and
it'll
be
good
for
the
working
group
and
good
for
the
final
product.
B
E
B
Very
good,
and
so
we'll
be
welcoming
our
wonderful
planning
board
virtually
with
us
tonight.
I'll
just
mention
the
the
run
of
show
here
is
that
we're
going
to
get
a
staff
presentation
we're
going
to
have
the
opportunity
for
council
and
planning
board
questions
then
we'll
have
a
public
hearing
and
then
any
follow-up
questions
that
come
from
the
public
hearing
and
then
we
will
not
have
any
comments
tonight.
We
will
adjourn
at
that
point.
Continue.
B
The
hearing
planning
board
will
consider
a
motion
for
adoption
on
may
5th,
and
then
city
council
will
take
it
back
up
on
may
10th
and
with
that
is
now
cindy.
Are
you
going
to
call
the
planning
board
to
order
here.
V
Oh
thank
you,
mayor
brockett,
and
thank
you
council
members.
Yes,
thank
you
for
having
me
playing
the
board
here
tonight.
I'm
now
going
to
turn
it
over
to
you.
If
it's
okay,
mr
mayor
I'll,
turn
it
over
to
our
chair
john
gerstel,
to
call
to
order
the
planning
board
john.
Q
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
mayor,
bronkett
we'd,
like
to
call
to
order
a
planning
board
meeting
tonight.
May
3rd
2022
for
the
purpose
of
holding
a
joint
public
hearing
with
city
council
for
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
the
east
boulder
sub-community
plan
planning
board
will
deliberate
and
consider
a
motion
for
adoption
of
the
plan
on
may
5th.
Q
B
You
thanks
so
much
for
that
john
appreciate
that
and
very
glad
to
have
you
and
the
rest
of
the
board
here.
I'll
just
make
a
note
I'll
be
taking
virtual
hands
from
the
planning
board
and
physical
hands
from
the
council,
so
I'm
gonna
be
looking
all
over
the
place.
If
I
miss
somebody,
please
give
me
an
elbow
and
notify
me
of
someone
that
I've
missed
I'll
do
my
best
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
city
staff,
for
a
presentation.
A
W
W
W
Gene
sanson,
as
well
as
a
whole
crew
of
city
staff,
joining
online
who've
been
working
on
the
project
over
the
past
three
years
and
are
here
tonight
to
help
answer
any
remaining
questions
you
may
have
on
the
final
plan,
and
tonight
we
have
about
a
30-minute
presentation
and
then,
as
described
by
the
mayor
and
john
crystal,
we
we'll
move
into
clarifying
questions
and
then
I
think
we've
gone
over
the
schedule
a
couple
of
times,
but
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
deliberation
and
decision
from
planning
board
on
may
5th
and
city
council
on
the
10th.
X
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
planning
board
members
can't
see
anything.
All
we
see
is
the
words
council
chambers
and-
and
we
also
can't
turn
our
videos
on
so
sorry
to
interrupt.
P
Sorry
about
that
sarah
I
will
troubleshoot
both
of
those
we've
got
folks
running
around
here
in
council
chambers
trying
to
solve
that
first
problem
for
you
and
I
should
be
able
to
fix
the
other
with
a
setting.
W
All
of
councils
and
planning
boards
input,
along
with
input
from
the
transportation,
advisory
board,
housing,
advisory
board
parks
and
recreation,
advisory
board,
open
space
and
mountain
parks,
board
of
trustees,
design
advisory
board
have
all
provided
essential
guidance
and
direction
throughout
this
process.
On
april
27,
the
housing
advisory
board
adopted
the
following
recommendation.
W
The
motion
for
your
consideration
is
to
adopt
the
east
boulder
sub-community
plan,
including
the
incorporated
55th
and
arapahoe
station
area
plan.
Sub-Community
plans
require
approval
from
both
planning
board
and
city
council.
Each
body
can
move
to
adopt
the
plan.
You
can
move
to
adopt
the
plan
with
recommended
amendments
if
there
are
remaining
changes
to
be
made
or
you
can
deny
adoption
of
the
plan,
sub-community
plans
are
defined
by
the
boulder
valley
comprehensive
plan
as
a
tool
to
communicate
expectations
about
the
future
of
a
sub-community.
W
W
W
In
early
2019
planning
board
and
city
council
approved
the
six
six
phase:
scope
of
work
for
a
sub-community
plan.
The
east
boulder
sub-community
plan
process
began
with
the
project
kickoff
in
february
of
2019
and
has
worked
its
way
through
the
subsequent
phases
guided
by
community
input.
Since
its
launch,
this
type
of
engagement
was
identified
for
the
project
as
collaborative
this
is
the
highest
level
of
engagement,
described
in
the
city's
engagement
strategy
and
promises
to
commun
promises
to
the
community
that
we
will
work
together
to
formulate
solutions
and
incorporate
your
recommendations
into
decisions.
W
One
of
the
key
features
of
this
strategy
was
the
east
boulder
working
group.
The
group
began
meeting
in
person
on
a
monthly
basis
in
may
of
2019.
in
march
of
2020.
We
switched
to
online
meetings
due
to
covid
restrictions,
and
the
group
has
continued
to
meet,
discuss,
debate
and
informed
decision
making
throughout
the
planning
process.
W
W
If
we
have
the
potential,
what
should
we
do?
What
changes
might
we
make
and
what
would
that
look
like
we
started
by
asking
the
community
some
basic
questions.
Would
you
consider
living
in
east
boulder?
We
wanted
to
know
if
we
plan
for
housing.
Would
anyone
want
to
live
here?
We
asked
people
in
person
and
online
and
found
that
there
was
an
interest
from
both
types
of
respondents
of
living
in
east
boulder.
W
W
We
asked
a
lot
of
other
questions
about
transportation,
arts,
climate
and
local
business.
To
get
a
baseline
understanding
about
the
types
of
changes
people
would
be
interested
in
seeing
in
east
boulder,
then
came
the
big
markers
working
group
members
worked
together
with
staff
to
consider
how
to
approach
changes
in
ease
boulder,
identifying
areas
that
could
offer
strategic
change
in
land
use
areas
that
were
important
to
maintain
under
current
planned
uses
and
key
connections
that
needed
improvements.
W
When
they're
able
from
home
that
engagement
window
provided
essential
feedback
to
inform
a
land
use
plan
for
east
boulder,
we
learned
that
most
people
do
support
the
development
of
some
housing
in
east
boulder,
especially
affordable
and
attainable
housing.
People
wanted
to
see
that
new
housing
integrated
in
mixed-use
neighborhoods.
W
W
W
W
The
land
use
plan
is
informed
by
and
balanced
with
the
connections
plan,
I'm
going
to
talk
through
some
of
the
key
features
of
the
land
use
plan
and
how
we've
updated
the
plan.
Since
we
last
met
a
few
weeks
ago,
gene
sanson
will
walk
through
the
connections
plan
and
updates
we've
made
to
this
element.
W
W
Overall,
this
graphic
describes
the
overall
land
use
plan
and
amount
of
land
dedicated
to
each
category.
The
lighter
bars
represent
acres
of
land
designated
in
the
bvcp,
and
the
darker
orange
bars
indicate
how
much
land
area
is
designated
for
different
types
of
uses
in
the
east
boulder
sub-community
plan.
W
Some
important
issues
to
note
is
that
there
is
no
change
in
the
amount
of
land
designated
for
general
industrial
use.
East
boulder
is
the
only
sub-community
that
includes
this
land-use
designation
and,
as
we
heard
from
community
members
that
loss
of
this
land-use
type
was
undesirable,
the
plan
maintains
all
of
the
space.
W
You
may
also
note
that
there
are
some
changes
in
land
designated
as
open
space
other.
We
worked
closely
with
staff
in
osmp
to
redesignate
some
oso
land
and
cleanup
mapping.
Errors
of
the
past
changes
to
land
designated
for
open
space
were
reviewed
and
approved
by
osbt.
Last
summer,
land
designated
for
community
business
has
been
changed
to
mixed
use
designations
which
do
still
accommodate
the
types
of
neighborhood
serving
businesses
that
are
expected
in
a
community
business
designation.
W
W
W
W
That
mix
of
new
homes
and
new
jobs
is
envisioned
to
take
creative
design
approaches
where
outdoor
space
is
highly
valued.
A
variety
of
roof
lines
create
memorable
scenes
throughout
east
boulder
and
the
combination
of
places
are
highly
accessible.
With
that
in
mind,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
gene
to
talk
about
the
connections
plan.
Y
Thank
you
kathleen.
Can
you
all
hear
me?
I
jokingly
tell
kathleen
I
was
here
just
so.
She
could
take
a
break
and
a
breath
good
evening,
so
the
connections
plan.
You
know
this
plan
is
intended
to
support
the
transformations
of
land
use
and
the
mix
of
residents
and
businesses
and
visitors
that
kathleen
has
just
described
and
transitioning
from
a
car
dominated
environment
to
one
where
active
travel
options
are
convenient
and
they're
comfortable
and
safe
and
affordable
requires
two
things.
It
requires
new
connections
and
it
requires
enhancements
to
our
existing
transportation
network.
Y
Y
And
so
the
design
that
you
see
here
allows
the
street
to
function
as
a
shared
space
for
people
to
socialize
or
travel
or
shop
or
dine
or
recreate,
and
to
better
balance
the
needs
of
pedestrians,
bicyclists
and
low-speed
motor
vehicles.
And,
as
I
referenced
in
the
previous
slide.
The
design
also
allows
access
for
passenger
drop-off
and
pickup
and
truck
loading
and
unloading
of
goods,
and
that's
going
to
be
an
important
function
in
this
area,
as
it
will
continue
to
include
businesses
and
expanded
commercial
uses.
Y
Next
line
so
transit
over
time.
Enhanced
regional
transit
service,
including
bus,
rapid
transit
along
east
arapahoe,
connecting
boulder
to
our
neighboring
cities
to
the
east
and
I-25
and
expanded
local
transit
service,
like
the
extension
of
the
hop
circulator
into
east
boulder,
will
offer
convenient
travel
options
for
people
living
working
and
visiting
east
boulder.
Excuse.
Y
Let
me
speak
into.
Is
this
better
john?
Can
you
hear
me
better?
Okay,
yeah
closer
to
the
mic.
Thank
you
thanks
for
that.
So
you
know
that
said.
Rtd
provides
most
of
the
public
transportation
in
the
boulder
area,
and
today
the
organization
is
facing
serious
financial
challenges
and
we
fully
recognize
this
challenge
and
the
city
will
continue
to
explore
in
coordination
with
rtd,
as
well
as
with
other
regional
and
state
partners,
ways
to
provide
regional
bus,
rapid
transit
service
to
each
to
east
boulder,
which
may
include
alternative
operator
partnerships.
Y
So,
more
broadly
speaking,
when
we
think
about
transit
as
a
component
and
it's
a
very
important
component
of
creating
mobility
hubs
throughout
east
boulder,
we
think
of
it
as
one
part
of
a
larger
system
where
options
for
families
to
bike,
walk
and
take
transit,
feel
safe,
vibrant
and
welcoming
next
slide.
Please
so
zooming
out
even
further
one
of
the
most
important
benefits
of
a
well
integrated
land
use
and
connections
plan
in
east
boulder
is
the
potential
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
particularly
from
the
transportation
sector.
W
So
the
final
stage
of
the
planning
process-
oh
boy-
this
is
sensitive.
There
we
go.
The
final
stage
of
the
planning
process
surrounds
the
topic
of
how
now
that
we
have
a
vision.
How
do
we
achieve
it?
And
this
is
one
of
my
favorite
components
of
the
plan
throughout
the
course
of
the
process,
we
received
hundreds
of
ideas
for
policies,
programs
and
projects
that
could
help
east
boulder
evolve,
and
I
really
mean
there
were
hundreds
and
hundreds.
W
I
know
that
people
worry
that
when
they
submit
comments
during
a
process
like
this
that
maybe
they
don't
go
anywhere,
but
I
just
want
to
assure
everyone
that
we
read
every
single
idea
and
as
part
of
the
collaborative
engagement
strategy,
we
evaluated
all
of
those
ideas
for
alignment
with
the
bvcp
alignment
with
other
city
master
plans
and
strategy
documents,
feasibility
and
the
ideas
ability
to
achieve
multiple
benefits.
W
We
took
those
ideas
and
funneled
them
into
recommended
policies,
programs
and
projects
that
can
help
east
boulder
achieve
the
vision
outlined
in
the
sub-community
plan
in
my
career,
I've
never
gone
to
this
extent
to
incorporate
community
feedback
into
the
final
recommendations
before
and
just
I,
it
was
really
rewarding
and
I
think
it's
just
very
exciting.
So
it's
not
the
most
colorful
part
of
the
plan,
but
I
think
it's
my
favorite
part
of
the
plan.
W
Overall,
the
plan
represents
a
vision
honed
through
community
engagement
over
a
three-year
period.
Over
2000
people
participated
in
the
process,
balancing
the
input
was
challenging,
but
we
hope
that
everyone
who
participated
sees
their
mark
in
the
document
at
some
level
to
move
the
project
towards
implementation.
W
W
We
would
also
work
on
making
those
connections
updates
to
the
transportation
master
plan
when
that
goes
for
its
next
update
and
then,
as
our
department
begins
to
restaff,
our
team,
we're
hoping
to
work
on
code
updates,
zoning
recommendations
and
form-based
code
work
to
implement
the
plan
later
this
year,
and
that
is
it
for
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
again
for
your
collaboration
on
the
project
and
I
know
we
have
staff
available
to
respond
to
clarifying
questions.
B
B
Z
Z
W
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
I
think
you
know
just
anecdotally.
We
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
in
redevelopment
at
55th
and
arapahoe
in
particular,
and
so,
as
we
think
about
you
know
what
areas
might
change
sooner
than
later,
that
that
would
be
an
area.
I
would
anticipate
seeing
some
change
in
the
near
term
as
far
as
being
able
to
project
the
number
of
units
that
might
happen
in
the
next
five
years.
It's
really
hard
to
know
that
without
knowing
which
properties
are
are
going
to
turn
over
and
sell
and
redevelop.
Z
And
also
I
have
a
question
that
might
be
a
teresa
question:
what
would
prevent
another?
We
we're
really
working
hard
here
to
make
this
happen
and
looking
at
this
project
over
the
next
20
years.
What
would
stop
a
council,
let's
say
four
years
from
now,
there's
a
chain
on
council
and
the
council
wants
to
go
another
direction.
AA
Thank
you
for
that
question,
council
member
joseph.
It
would
have
to
be
the
will
of
council
I'll
tell
you
master
plans.
Sub-Community
plans
tend
to
be
our
guiding
documents,
and,
and
in
that
vein,
garner
a
lot
of
deference
from
subsequent
councils.
AA
X
A
X
The
when
we
met
planning
board,
you
told
us
that
the
jobs
projections
for
the
flat
irons
park
area
was
based
on
the
a
function
of
for
I
think
it's
480
square
feet
per
employee,
because
that's
the
current
light
industrial
ratio
that
you
use,
but
we
know
that
that
area
also
allows
will
allow
office
space
and
that
ratio
is
230
square
feet
per
employee.
X
So
I'm
curious
if
you
could
unpack
for
us
what
your
formula
was
in
terms
of
what
percentage
of
jobs
you
measured
out
as
office
and
what
percentage
were
measured
out
as
light
industrial,
because
I
think
the
numbers
that
you
projected
should
reflect.
X
W
Yeah,
so
for
the
overall
projections
for
jobs
for
each
of
the
areas
of
change,
we
actually
took
a
pretty
fine
grain
approach
and
developed
concepts
that
were
modeled
and
the
job
projections
are
measured
by
space,
and
so
we
modeled
out
we're
anticipating.
W
You
know
so
much
light
industrial
space,
so
much
retail
space,
so
much
office
space
and
then
did
calculate
jobs
based
on
that
can
I
still
share
my
screen.
Is
that
an
option.
W
Well,
I
can
okay,
because
I
have
the
the
numbers
for
folks.
If
that's
of
interest.
W
Okay,
so
we
did
model
out
the
different
spaces,
and
then
we
used
these
multipliers
to
calculate
a
total
jobs
number.
When
we
were
at
planning
board
in
march,
there
was
a
request
that
we
put
together
a
projection
that
could
anticipate
or
would
model
what
the
absolute
maximum
build
out
would
be.
W
So
we
looked
at,
I
think
it's
all,
maybe
70
parcels
in
flatiron
business
park
and
built
built
a
model
to
measure
those
and
because
we
don't
know
we,
we
didn't
design
on
a
parcel
by
parcel
level.
What
that
space
mix
might
include.
We
used
a
general
490
square
foot
per
job
multiplier,
because
that
is
the
amount
of
square
foot
per
job.
That's
in
flatiron
business
park
today
and
if
kalani's
on
the
line,
I
just
would
have
her
check
and
make
sure
I
described
that
appropriately.
W
X
So,
okay,
so
I
appreciate
I'm
sorry,
mr
mayor
just
a
follow-up,
please
so
you're
calculating
the
job
projections
for
the
east
boulder
sub
community
plan.
As
if
everything
that's
going
to
get
built,
there
is
going
to
be
light
industrial,
except
that
we
actually
know
that.
That's
not
the
case,
because
we
already
have
an
example
of
that
at
2400
central
avenue.
X
So
might
it
be
possible
at
planning
board
on
thursday
to
just
do
a
couple
scenarios
like
half
half
light
industrial
half
office,
space
and
job
projections?
For
that,
so
that
we
can
actually
understand
what
the
different
mixes
might
be
in
terms
of
the
jobs
and
dwelling
units
combo?
That
is
likely
to
emerge
out
of
this
project.
W
X
The
other
okay
for
the
other
areas
we
did.
I
did
understand
that,
but
that
flat
irons
business
park
is
where
the
most
there's
we
we
know
that
it
just
got
purchased
for
a
great
deal
of
money
and
is
likely
to
be
targeted
for
redevelopment
pretty
quickly.
So
I
think
it
would
just
be
helpful
at
least
be
helpful
to
me,
okay
to
have
a
little
bit
more
mix
in
there
than
than
the
assumption
of
all
light
industrial
work
ratio,
space.
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
Could
you
go
into
some
further
detail
about
your
assumptions
about
the
increased
housing
numbers
that
you
came
up
with
with
respect
to
distribution
between,
say,
missing,
middle
and
stacked
flats
and
other
types
of
housing
that
you
use
to
develop?
Your
estimates.
W
Yeah,
so
we
we
took
a
similar
approach
with
the
housing
units.
We
actually
went
into
each
of
the
areas
of
change
and
used
the
place
type
tool
as
a
guide
to
develop
a
potential
scenario
for
how
that
might
play
out,
and
then
that
that
is
what
you'll
see
in
the
plan
for
each
of
those
sections
on
areas
of
change
in
neighborhoods.
W
That
mix
that's
included
in
that
is
what
what
was
modeled
and
we
do
have.
I
think
I'll
call
to
kalani
again,
if,
if
you
want
to
describe
the
maybe
the
spread
of
unit
sizes
that
we
looked
at
to
model
out,
that
mix.
AB
So
we
looked
at
units
everything
from
about
350
square
foot,
efficiency
units
all
the
way
to
a
variety
of
attached,
single
family.
That
includes
live
work,
and
that
includes
two
apartment:
styles,
flat
style
apartments
in
there
also
and
all
of
those
were
based
on
the
2019
census.
Data
average
square
footage
for
those
units.
AB
Q
AB
I'd
have
to
look
at
just
in
general,
across
the
every
area
of
change
or
specific
to
certain
areas
of
change.
No.
Q
In
general,
because
I
think
you
you
and
and
your
colleagues
introduced
numbers
for
the
entire
area
of
the
sub-community
plan,
so
just
to
aggregate
it
at
that
level
would
be
interesting.
AB
I
can
look
that
up
for
you,
but
I
kathleen
do
you
have
that
the
whole
mix
of
the
units,
the
percentages
offhand?
If
not?
If
you
give
me
a
second
I'll,
take
a
look
for
that.
A
W
B
All
right
so
john,
we'll
come
back
to
that
move
on
to
another
question.
I
saw
some
hands
over
here.
I
got
yep
nicole,
then
matt.
I
Thanks
again
for
the
presentation
super
helpful,
as
well
as
this
very
comprehensive
document
and
all
the
work
you've
done.
My
question
is
referring
to
slide
48
in
the
presentation
and
it's
just
the
one,
that's
playing
out
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
I
apologize
for
not
sending
this
in
advance.
I
didn't
catch
it
until
you're
going
through
the
presentation
here.
I
My
question
is,
I
mean
it
looks
like
overall,
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
going
up
right,
just
because
there's
more
people
right,
so
per
capita
it's
going
down,
but
overall
going
up-
and
you
know
I'm
just
thinking
about
this
in
regard
to
our
community
greenhouse
gas
emissions
goals,
it
seems
like
that's,
going
to
be
sending
us
in
the
wrong
direction,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
are
some
of
the
thoughts
around
how
how
we
can
overall.
I
J
J
I
Years
or
what
what's
the
thinking
there
yeah,
I.
Y
Would
be
happy
to
address
that
council
atmosphere
from
a
transportation
perspective,
so
you're
right,
there's
more
activity
in
east
boulder.
You
know
in
20
years
there'll
be
more
people
living
there
and
more
people
working
there,
and
so,
as
a
result,
the
total
ghg
and
v.
You
know
this
comes
from
an
analysis
of
vehicle
miles,
traveled
right,
and
so
there
are
things
that
we
can
do,
and
I
think
that
some
of
the
estimates
that
we
use
so,
for
example,
we
apply
a
20
reduction
to
generally.
Y
You
know,
industry,
specific
standards
for
how
how
many
trips
a
certain
use
generates-
and
we
know
that
people
in
boulder
travel
differently
than
that,
because
we
have
higher
mode
shifts
in
our
community
than
we
do
in
typical,
more
suburban
communities.
So
we
apply
that
and
then,
on
top
of
that
application,
we
apply
another
10
percent
rejection
which
we
actually
think
might
be
fairly
conservative,
because
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
do.
That
we
know
will
move
that
needle
even
further.
N
Y
B
Great
we'll
do
matt
and
then
tara
and
then
lisa
smith.
F
Thanks
mayor
and
staff,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
it's
great
to
see
the
evolution
of
this
over
time
and
and
I
think,
setting
a
course
for
our
future
is
quite
important,
and
certainly
it's
great
to
have
planning
board
here.
It's
nice
to
be
able
to
sort
of
walk
through
this
together
this
evening.
F
My
question
centers
around
a
letter
we
sort
of
recently
got
with
regards
to
cordon
pharma
and
its
proximity
to
the
mixed
use,
transit,
oriented
development,
that's
south
of
the
tracks,
but
north
of
western
avenue,
and
really
kind
of
thinking
about
the
appropriateness
of
housing
that
close
to
a
pretty
heavy
industrial
use
and
and
business
that
is
loud.
It
operates.
F
24
7
has
large
lighting,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
get
your
thoughts
on
whether
you
know
whether
that
was
considered
in
the
close
proximity
with
regards
to
that
space
north
of
western
avenue
to
the
train
tracks
and
whether
housing
is
an
appropriate
use
there
versus
maybe
having
a
more
transitional
zoning
to.
Perhaps
the
well-needed
housing
don't
get
me
wrong.
We
need
housing,
but
in
that
specific
spot,
I'm
just
wondering
given
that
gordon
pharma's
close
proximity,
if
that's
the
most
appropriate
use
of
housing
in
that
space,.
W
We
looked
at
that
area,
in
particular
related
to
some
feedback
that
we've
gotten
from
cordon
recently
and
still
believe
that
having
housing
there
would
be
an
appropriate
use
and
help
to
create
the
type
of
neighborhood
that
we're
looking
for
at
55th
and
arapahoe.
But
we
have
talked
about
some
strategies
that
we
that
could
help
manage
that
interaction
and
create
more
of
a
buffer.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
is
is,
as
we
look
at
and
start
working
on,
code
updates
and
and
form
base
code
and
design
guidance
for
this
area,
in
particular.
W
B
AB
Hi,
thank
you
again
so,
as
requested,
we
have
small
studios.
Well.
Existing
mobile
homes
is
one
housing
type
on
in
the
plan:
small
studios,
which
is
350
square
feet
or
less
efficiency,
units
than
mid-sized
apartments,
approximately
between
500
and
1200
square
feet,
large
apartments
from
1200
to
1800
square
feet,
town
homes
and
then
live
work,
and
the
mix
is
primarily
it's
20,
small
studios,
mid-size
apartments
about
70
percent,
large
apartments,
2
percent
town
homes,
3
percent
and
then
live
work
about
1
and
the
individual
numbers.
AB
Q
Yeah,
that
was
that
was
very
useful
when
you
talked
just
a
quick
follow-up
when
you
talked
about
the
percentage.
Are
you
talking
about
number
of
units
or
total
area
devoted
living
area
devoted
to
that
in
the
in
the
suburb,
in
our
entire
sub
area?.
AB
So
just
the
units,
the
the
percentage
of
the
mix
of
overall
units,
so
the
total
out
of
the
5
100
approximately
units,
that's
the
percentage.
J
J
We
know
that
we
can't
we
obviously
have
a
transit
village
with
very
little
transit
and
we're
trying
not
to
duplicate
that,
although
it
doesn't
sound
like
we
will,
because
we
have
a
lot
going
on
at
arapahoe
55th
as
far
as
transit
options.
So
I
would
rather
not
as
everybody
else
who
would
rather
not
rely
on
rtd
as
they
have
broken
promises
in
the
past.
When
do
you
think
we
can
expect
the
regional
transit
do
you
have?
Have
you
been
talking
to
the
different
communities,
the
different
cities?
What
do
they
say?
Y
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
and
I'm
sure
on
the
minds
of
of
many
of
us.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
I
really
have
to
like
put
my
mouth
on
this
that
yeah.
That
is
a
really
great
question,
so
yeah.
I
think
that
you
know
we
are
all
of
the
same
mind
that
we
need
to
look
at
options
that
go
beyond
rtd.
Y
Cdot
is
very
much
getting
in
the
game
of
providing
transit
service
between
cities,
intercity
transit
service
like
a
busting
type
service.
So
there
are
options
and
we're
getting
more
and
more
focused,
as
we
have
these
conversations
with
our
partner
agencies
to
determine
what
that
might
look
like.
I
don't
have
a
crystal
ball.
I
would
say
that
if
we
are
successful
in
receiving
some
of
the
federal
funds
that
will
that
we're
requesting,
we
could
see
service
as
soon
as
the
next
two
to
five
years,
but
I
believe
that
would
I
mean
that's
very.
AD
J
And
my
second
question
is
a
lot
of
people,
not
a
lot
of
people.
Some
people
have
been
writing
to
us
in
regards
to
what
they
would
like
to
see
who
weren't
included
in
the
let's
say
in
the
community
that
worked
on
the
plan
and
they
mentioned
supermarkets
and
more
restaurants.
At
what
point
do
we
do?
We
ever
get
to
weigh
in
on
that
as
council?
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
know
that
or
as
communities
that
are
adjacent
to
55th
and
arapahoe,
particularly
like,
let's
say
south
of
there.
J
So
at
what
point
are
we
going
to
be
getting
into
the
nitty
gritty
details
about
what
will
go
there?
I'm
thinking
about
inviting
buildings
versus
large,
big,
cold
structures
etc,
because
I
would
love
it
to
be
a
community.
W
So
what
we're
looking
at
in
our
work
plan
in
the
planning
department
right
now
is
that,
as
long
as
we're
able
to
staff
up
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
we
would
take
on
zoning
updates
code
updates
and
the
potential
development
of
form
based
code
for
the
55th
and
arapahoe
area
in
particular
later
this
year,
and
so
once
we
get
into
that
process
that
will
involve
a
myriad
of
of
code
work
but
certainly
work
on
the
use
tables
and
that
that
form
base
code
development.
G
Thank
you,
so
I'm
going
to
follow
up
on
councilmember,
weiner's,
excellent
question
on
transportation.
So
now
you
talked
about
alternate
operator,
partnerships
and
options
for
regional
transportation,
and
forgive
me
if
this
has
already
been
covered,
but
I
was
just
curious
how
you
envision
additional
needs
for
transit
within
the
city
itself.
You
know
so.
G
G
And
how
do
you
envision
that
happening
and
when
I
know
that
with
new
development-
and
we
may
have
some
increased
density
or
quite
a
bit
of
increased
density
here,
it
could
be
a
little
chicken
in
the
egg.
But
what's
the
vision
for
that.
Y
Yeah,
that's
an
excellent
question
so
in
thinking
about
how
we
provide
more
localized
transit
again,
we
do
continue
to
rely
on
rtd
to
provide.
You
know
the
200
series,
for
example,
but
we
supplement
that
with
partnerships
with
cu
and
and
others
to
provide
the
hop
circulator
which
we
hope
to
extend
into
east
boulder.
In
the
coming
years,
we
had
had
plans
to
do
that.
Pre-Covered.
Y
We
have
since
pivoted
how
those
federal
funds
were
used
to
help
to
electrify
the
hop
vehicles
that
we
currently
have,
but
our
long-range
plan
is
to
still
continue
to
work
towards
expanding
that
hop
into
east
boulder.
Y
You
know
another
option
that
we've
been
considering
of
more
recent
times
with
with
covid
and
the
different
ways
that
people
are
traveling
is
thinking
about
the
hop
as
perhaps
a
more
flexible
route,
so
more
of
a
micro
transit
service.
So
if
you
can
imagine
sort
of
like
a
lift
line
or
an
uber
pool,
but
for
with
larger
vehicles
for
transit,
we're
starting
to
think
about
how
to
pilot
things
like
what
they
call
microtransit
in
east
boulder.
Y
But
in
the
meantime
I
will
say
that
we
continue
to
advocate
very
strongly
to
restore
the
services,
the
fixed
route
services
that
rtd
has
provided
into
east
boulder,
and
you
know,
quite
frankly,
like
we're.
Seeing
we've
seen
service
spans
shortened.
We've
seen
frequencies
lengthened
and
you
know
that's
having
real
impacts
on
how
people
particularly
like
when
you
think
about
the
san
lazaro
mobile
home
community,
have
access
to
transit
in
this
community,
so
we're
taking
many
different
angles
on
this
problem
to
move
forward.
G
Thank
you
and
then
one
other
question.
Well,
I
have
a
floral
first,
a
compliment.
I'm
very
excited
to
hear
about
form-based
code
and
use
table
work
coming
up.
My
my
nerdy
planning
heart
is
delighted
and,
and
then
I
just
also
something
that
that
has
come
up
for
us
quite
a
bit
in
past
planning
board
meetings
and
which
I'm
sure
members
of
staff
had
have
heard
me
harp
on
a
bit,
it's
just
kind
of
an
understanding
of
industrial
space
and
how
that's
changing
across
the
city.
G
So
you
know
looking
at
this
east
boulder,
you
know
planning
area
and
what
we're
doing
with
that,
but
also
understanding
how
those
changes
to
light
industrial,
the
incoming
you
know
new
housing,
all
the
different
uses
that
are
showing
up
what
what
that's
doing
to
our
overall
industrial
space
in
general,
and
so
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
again
ask
I
know
I
know
I
was
reassured
recently
by
planning
staff.
G
I
think
I
don't
know
six
or
seven
meetings
back
that
that's
on
the
docket
when
there's
resources
and
people
power
available,
but
is
that
still
something
you're
looking
at?
And
how
might
that
inform
this
plan?
Specifically,
this
area
specifically
moving
forward.
W
Yeah
as
part
of
this
process,
we've
certainly
studied
some
of
the
national
trends
on
industrial
space
and
how
that
the
need
for
industrial
space
has
been
growing,
but
also
looking
at
how
we
know
industrial
space
is
being
repurposed
and
reused
in
east
boulder.
W
There
is
a
recommendation
in
the
east
boulder
sub-community
plan
to
conduct
that
industrial
land
study,
so
we
can
dive
deeper
into
understanding
how
our
industrial
industrially
designated
lands
are
being
used
today
and
how
we
can
anticipate
they
would
change
in
the
future.
So
that
is,
that
is
a
recommendation.
B
All
right
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
on
myself.
I
want
to
look
at
page
40
slide
42
in
the
presentation,
if
you
don't
mind,
and
it
was
the
place
types
one
with
the
show,
the
different
uses
and
the
different
place
types,
if
that's
very
good
thanks
so
much
all
right.
So
I
appreciate
the
modifications
that
you
made
from
last
time.
I
did
notice
that
there
are
three
of
them
that
are
grayed
out,
and
I
wonder
if
that
was
intentional
and
what
that
means.
B
It's
like
on
the
innovation
tod
on
the
second
floor
for
the
residential
and
the
innovation
td,
non-residential
on
the
first
floor.
W
AE
B
B
Okay,
great,
that
that
makes
sense
all
right
thanks
for
that,
the
other
one
was.
I
saw
that
you
changed
the
minimum
fars
to
a
range
which
I
thought
made
sense.
You
know
as
a
flexibility
thing,
but
you
changed
the
minimum
from.
I
think
it
was
three
or
more
to
one
which
was
a
pretty
drastic
drop.
So
just
wondering
why.
W
W
Yeah,
so
we
met
back
up
with
our
consultant
team
mig
to
talk
about
those,
and
I
think
that
we
had,
in
the
last
version
of
the
plan,
actually
had
just
an
incorrect
descriptor.
Those
were
meant
to
be
maximum
fars,
but
because
they
received
such
positive
feedback
from
council
and
some
community
members
in
our
last
online
questionnaire.
W
We
put
in
that
range
to
really
start
to
think
about
minimum
fars.
So
an
error
that
resulted
in
in
an
opportunity.
Okay,
very.
B
Interesting
well
we'll
talk
about
it
at
our
hearing
next
week,
but
thanks
for
that
explanation,
all
right!
That's
all
I
had
so.
I've
got
now
mark
and
then
laura
and
then
oh
george,
from
the
playing
board
and
then
we'll
come
back
over
to
council.
So
all
right
and.
N
AF
Hi
thanks,
so
I
am
a
transportation
advisory
board
veteran
and
a
planning
board
newbie,
and
one
of
the
lessons
I
have
learned
is
that
insight
review
and
in
our
in
our
in
our
plans-
and
this
is
a
great
example-
we
have
visions
and
we
have
desired
goals
and
outcomes,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
site
review
and
what
gets
constructed
on
the
ground,
we
resort
to
the
code
and
our
design
and
construction
of
the
dcs,
which
guides
actual
street
construction.
AF
How
wide
streets
are
where
there's
parking,
how
tall,
curbs
and
gutters
are,
and
we
have
long
undergone
a
an
attempt
to
revise
our
dcs.
AF
AF
How
reliant
are
we
on
completing
a
dcs
update
so
that,
as
things
are
redeveloping
in
east
boulder
right
now,
and
as
they
redevelop
we're
using
the
current
bcs,
not
a
forward-looking,
updated
dcs?
And
so
how
in
how
important?
And
how
integral
is
that
to
achieving
our
east
bowler
sub
community
plan
vision.
W
AG
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to.
I
know
we
have
other
folks
from
well.
First,
charles
farrell,
planning
and
development
services,
and
I
know
we
have
other
folks
from
transportation
on
the
call
this
evening.
I
know
that
an
update
on
the
dcs
amendments
is
scheduled
for
planning
board
here
in
june.
I
believe
so.
Work
is
ongoing
and
kathleen.
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
the
second
part
of
the
question,
just
the
relationship
between
current
regulations
and
how
we
implement.
W
Yeah
and
how
maybe
sub
community
plans
would
be
referenced
in
site
review.
L
AG
Well,
so
one
of
the
site
review
criteria
talks
about
consistency
with
adopted
area
plans.
So
it's
absolutely
one
of
the
the
main
things
that
we're
reviewing
for
when
we
review
discretionary
projects
that
are
situated
in
you
know,
areas
that
have
adopted
area
plans.
So
those
are
those
are
very
well
honored
through
the
site
review
process.
AG
But
I
guess
what
I
would
say
in
response
or
remember
mcintyre
is
that
we
have
a
tremendous
opportunity
in
front
of
us
in
drafting
the
form-based
code
to
help
implement
the
east
boulder
sub-community
plan,
and
I
would
agree.
I
don't
know
that,
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
adopting
a
plan
that
we
don't
have
the
tools
to
implement
in
detail.
AG
So
as
we
move
into
the
form
based
code,
I
think
all
of
those
things
are
absolutely
on
the
table
so
that
we're
implementing
it
consistent
with
the
adopted
goals
and
policies
in
the
plan-
and
I
think
we've
seen
that
through
the
transit
village
area
plan
the
north
boulder
sub-community
plan,
where
we
really
wrote
specific
zoning,
you
know
to
honor
the
spirit,
intent
goals
and
policies
of
the
plan.
AH
Thank
you
so
I'll
try
to
be
quick,
because
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
here.
So
the
last
time
this
plan
came
to
city
council
was
the
90
draft
and
there
was
a
request
to
see
where
you
could
incorporate
more
housing.
W
Yeah,
so
we
looked
specifically
at
the
place
types
and
tried
to
find
opportunities
where
we
could
incorporate
more
housing
units
and
so
considering
allowed
uses
on
ground
floors.
Where
previously
we
were
looking
for,
maybe
a
more
active
use
was
updated,
and
so,
when
we
look
at
how
that
impacts,
the
numbers
of
units-
I
you
know
I
we
we
haven't
calculated
that
but
just
kind
of
exp
based
on
experience.
I
I
would
imagine
it
would
be
just
a
couple
hundred
units,
not
just
I
mean
every
unit
counts.
It
would
be
significant.
AH
W
Main
street
live
work
and
innovation
tod
and
I
think
neighborhood
toda
as
well.
AH
W
I'll
have
to
look
back,
I
don't
have
a
printout
of
attachment
a,
but
that
is
described
in
attachment
a.
AH
Thank
you.
That
is
helpful.
I
have
just
a
couple
more
quick
questions,
so
this
may
be
me
being
a
planning
board
newbie,
but
I'm
uncertain
what
would
govern
the
maximum
building
heights
in
east
boulder.
AH
I
know
the
mixed-use
cod
is
a
new
land-use
designation
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
what
governs
maximum
heights
but
just
curious.
What
is
the
guidance
that
planning
board
would
use
to
think
about
maximum
height
and
then
any
height
for
community
benefit
in
these
areas
of
mixed
use,
tod
land
use,
designation
and
mixed-use
industrial
land
use
designation,
or
is
it
the
place
types.
W
Yeah
so
citywide,
the
maximum
height
is
55
feet,
no
matter
what
so
you
can
depend
on
that
and
then,
when
we
go
and
do
the
zoning
updates,
we
will
look
at
building
heights
as
part
of
both
form
base
code
and
and
other
code
updates
for
this
area,
and
that
would
provide
a
a
maximum
building
height.
W
AH
W
So
the
mixed
use
industrial
is
a
land
use
and
not
a
zone,
so
I
might
ask
kalani
or
charles,
I
think
some
of
the
zones
that
are
in
a
mixed-use
industrial
neighborhood
might
be
like
is-1
or
is-2.
I
don't
know
off-hand
what
the
building
height
limit
is
for
those
zones.
AG
AH
W
And
I
think
just
for
context
that
the
conversation
of
building
heights
was
robust
in
in
community
conversations
and
among
the
working
group
and
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
both
groups
is
an
interest
in
providing
flexibility
and,
I
would
say,
not
wanting
to
limit
a
building
height
greater
than
what
is
already
limited
by
our
code.
So
that's
just
some
kind
of
background
information.
AH
Thank
you
that's
useful,
and
then,
if,
if
I
could
have
the
floor
for
just
one
more
minute,
looking
at
policy
d7,
it
encourages
varied
rooflines
and
integrating
mechanical
equipment
into
overall
building
architecture.
And
this
is
something
that
just
came
before
our
planning
board
in
a
concept
review
with
a
building
in
an
industrial
zone
that
was
asking
for
additional
height
in
order
to
not
have
flat
roofs
with
screened
mechanical
equipment.
AH
And
so
I'm
wondering
if
having
this
policy
d7
in
the
sub
community
plan,
which,
as
charles
noted,
you
want
consistency
with
sub-community
plans
when
you're
doing
a
site
review.
Would
that
language
and
the
sub-community
plan
be
considered
a
rationale
or
a
criterion
for
additional
heights
during
a
site
review.
AB
V
AB
I'll
also
probably
ask
charles
to
weigh
in
here,
but
the
for.
Yes,
it
does
help
with
getting
some
varied
roof
lines
to
have
that
extra
height
in
there.
So
we
could
there's
a
couple
ways.
We
could
do
it
in
the
form
based
code.
There's
different
building
types,
those
building
types
have
floors.
They
have
four
thresholds,
they
have
roof
roof
requirements,
so
that
could
be
part
of
the
form
based
code
as
far
as
a
site
review.
AG
You
know
what
the
root
forms
would
look
like,
but
you
know,
through
other
form,
based
codes
that
we've
done
recently
like
out
at
30
perl
we've
tried
to
incentivize
pitched
roofs
and
try
to
incentivize
screening,
mechanical
equipment
and
embedding
them
within
buildings.
But
again,
ultimately,
I
think
it
comes
down
to
the
building
typologies
and
how
we
draft
the
form
based
code
to
respond
to
that.
AH
B
So
much
thanks
laura.
So,
mr
boone,
do
you
mind,
starting
by
clarifying
your
preferred
pronunciation
of
your
first
name?
I
don't
want
to
get
it.
AI
A
AI
So
kind
of
follow
up
on
laura's
question
a
bit
in
regards
to
light
industrial
zoning
and
what
exists
in
this
area.
Today,
the
staff
took
us
through
a
really
nice
comprehensive
tour.
I
think
all
of
council
on
planning
board
and
transportation
advisory
were
able
to
participate,
that
that
was
really
great
to
provide
context.
AI
One
of
the
things
that
staff
was
talking
about
as
we
walked
through
there,
especially
at
the
beginning
of
the
tour,
was
around
some
of
the
lighting
industrial
uses
that
currently
exists
like
the
banjo
maker
and
the
art
space
and
the
rv
outfitter.
AI
In
contrast,
the
the
the
project
that
laura
mentioned,
that
planning
saw
just
on
tuesday,
was
a
redevelopment
of
a
light
industrial
zone
from
a
restaurant
supply
to
a
a
light
industrial
lab
space,
quite
large
120
000
feet,
and
my
understanding
after
that
was
that
that
that
space
is
going
to
be
marketed
somewhere
at
about
60
to
80
dollars,
a
square
foot
triple
net
or
roughly
about.
When
you
calculate
all
the
costs,
then
about
a
hundred
dollars,
a
square
foot
gross
and
so
to
give
people
context
on
what
that
means.
AI
A
thousand
square
feet
would
rent
for
gross
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
and
so
when
we
play
that,
in
contrast
to
the
existing
light,
industrial
uses
that
we're
proud
of
in
this
area,
like
the
banjo
maker
and
the
rv
outfitter,
where
do
they
fit
in
in
this
plan,
as
as
as
it
develops
and
has
the
city
put
some
thought
and
economic
analysis
as
relates
to
these
types
of
businesses
that
are
thriving
in
an
area
because
it's
expensive
and
where
those
businesses
might
fit
in
in
this
plan,.
W
W
We
learned
that
rents
in
this
area
are
not
necessarily
cheaper
than
other
parts
of
boulder
rents
are
going
up,
but
you
know
I
do
think
we've
heard
anecdotally
from
community
members.
It's
it's
a
more
affordable
area.
Today
we
have
not
done
additional
economic
analysis
on
how
redevelopment
might
impact
those
rental
rates
in
since
that
initial
market
profile.
AI
You
know
they're
they're,
looking
at
sixty
to
eighty
dollars,
a
square
foot
and
they're
comping
against
the
national
market
and
feeder
areas
like
boston
and
san,
diego
that
are
already
at
a
hundred
dollars,
a
square
foot
for
that
light.
Industrial-
and
I
have
some
concerns
around
how
we
manage
that
as
a
city
to
preserve
the
types
of
businesses
that
exist.
So
hopefully
there's
a
there's
a
plan
around
that.
W
AJ
Thank
you
kathleen.
We
do
not
have
any
imminent,
affordable
commercial
work
plan
elements.
Oh
sorry,
chris
jones,
interim
director
of
community
vitality,
but
we
do
have
some
resources
within
the
caged
budget
to
be
looking
at,
possibly
in
the
in
the
year
ahead
to
pilot
some
possibilities
around
affordable
commercial
that
could
be
looked
to
as
a
model
as
east
boulder
develops
to
to
resolve
some
of
these
challenges.
But
when
I
see
jennifer
pincino
has
turned
her
camera
on
as
well.
So
I
will
see
if
she
has
additional
to
contribute.
B
Great
thanks:
we
got
lauren
next
and
then
matt.
AE
Thank
you.
So
most
of
my
questions
are
sort
of
around
the
next
steps
and
just
to
make
sure
that
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
concerned
about
would
be
able
to
be
taken
care
of
in
future
processes.
So,
as
we
look
at
zoning
and
form-based
code,
is
the
intention
to
have
new
zoning
districts
that
would
apply
to
this
area,
or
are
we
trying
to
map
current
zoning
on
to
this
plan?.
W
Yeah,
I
think
we
will
be
looking
at
whether
there
are
existing
zones
that
could
be
suitable
for
any
as
a
match
for
any
of
these
place
type
areas.
But
we
would
also
study
the
creation
of
new
zones
and
and
if
that's,
a
better
kind
of
tool
to
get
what
we're
describing
as
as
the
vision
for
the
area.
AE
AE
You
know,
for
instance,
if
office
space
is
more
value,
you
know
seen
as
being
able
to
be
more
valuable
to
a
developer.
It
seems
like
all
of
these
zones
either
allow
residential
or
office,
and
so
if,
for
some
reason
it
wasn't,
you
could
see
things
being
redeveloped
away
from
industrial
uses,
potentially
depending
on
the
market
conditions.
W
Yeah,
I
think,
when
we
go
into
those
conversations
we
that
would
definitely
be
something
that
planning
board
and
city
council
would
weigh
on
weight
in
on
the
future.
If
there
were
certain
uses
that
you
may
want
to
prohibit
in
in
these
zones,.
AE
Thank
you
and
then
lastly,
we've
gotten
some
concerns
around
sort
of
noise
lighting,
those
kinds
of
things
right
now
do
we
have
any
difference
in
standard
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
noise
or
light
pollution
that
can
be
created
in
these
zones
compared
to
the
rest
of
boulder
or
currently,
it's
sort
of
the
city-wide
rules
are
the
same
all
across
the
city
right
so.
W
I
would
ask
charles
to
respond
to
that
about
light
regulations.
AG
Yeah,
as
far
as
you
know,
lighting
goes.
The
city's
lighting
code
is
pretty
uniform
across
the
city.
I
think
we
do
have.
You
know
some
little
more
intense
allowances
for
our
commercial
and
industrial
areas,
but
on
the
whole
still
require
full
cut
off
fixtures.
You
know
no
light
intrusion
on
other
people's
property
and
with
regard
to
noise,
we
have
some
specific
standards
in
our
regulations
that
talk
about
construction
typology
for
residential
uses
in
industrial
zones.
So
things
like
additional
sound
proofing
ways
to
achieve
that,
either
with
insulation
or
windows.
F
Thanks
aaron,
my
follow-up
actually
kind
of
connects
a
little
bit
between
how
junie
started
us
off
with
her
question
about
what
future
councils
may
or
may
not
be
able
to
do,
and
and
and
lauren
talking
about
the
future
stuff,
and
I
guess
where
I
want
to
call
coalesce
around-
that
is
previous
area
or
sub-community
plans
were
kind
of
just
done,
and,
and
that
was
the
way
things
were,
and
we
we
did
them
for
all
time
without
much
cooking
in
time
for
adaptability,
it
is
an
exercise
of
hubris
for
us
to
assume.
F
We
know
the
full
outcomes
for
30
years
from
now,
and
so
how
do
we
cook
that
in
how
do
we
not
bake
in
obsolescence?
When
we
start
a
plan,
we
have
the
best
intentions.
We
have
some
areas
that
are
going
to
be
adaptable,
but
how
do
we
cook
in
those
check-ins
like
we
do
with
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan,
so
that
we
can
actually
just
be
like
all
right?
Where
is
the
community
at
where?
F
Where
are
regulations
at
where
is
the
market
at
and
do
we
need
to
make
some
large
or
small
adjustments
to
these
plans
to
continue
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
community
going
forward?
So
that's
a
concern
I
have,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
is
it
appropriate
to
even
bake
that
in
in
a
plan
like
this
to
say,
hey
every
10
years,
like
we
do
a
comp
plan?
F
Can
we
just
check
in
because
I
agree
with
juni's
point:
you
don't
want
just
any
counsel
at
any
time
to
kind
of
throw
up
the
the
curtain
and
say
we're
going
to
redo
this
now,
but
but
when
it's
planned
and
staff
has
a
chance
to
work
through
that,
knowing
it's
coming
on
the
horizon,
so
I'm
kind
of
curious
about.
Is
there
a
process
for
that,
and
can
we
do
that.
W
Yeah,
so
a
couple
things
one
one
idea
that
we
have
that
would
be
part
of
the
implementation
of
the
project
is
on
the
city
website
and
the
webpage
for
this
having
a
tool
that
would
track
implementation.
So
all
of
those
programs,
policies
and
and
the
prioritization
that's
listed
at
the
back
of
the
plan,
creating
some
kind
of
tool.
So
the
community
always
knows
where
we're
at
on
on
each
of
those
ideas.
W
In
the
plan
itself,
the
sub-community
plan
on
the
very
last
page
describes
the
amendment
process
and
expectations
around
amendments
so
that
that
piece
of
it
is
included
in
the
plan,
but
as
far
as
a
regular
check-in
for
sub-community
plans.
That's
that's
kind
of
a
new
idea
for
us,
but
certainly
open
to
it.
O
Super
quick
question
on
that
last
point:
I
assume
the
question
was
was
put
like:
how
would
council
look
at
it,
but
we're
together
with
planning
board
tonight,
and
I
don't
want
to
dismiss
that
it
would
be
a
planning
board
and
council,
like
both,
would
have
to
change
this
right
and
both.
X
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
explore
with
us
a
little
bit
about
the
overlap
between
east
boulder
sub
community
boundaries
and
the
opportunity
zone
and
what
the
implications
are
in
terms
of
the
discussion
about
incentives
that
are
that
were
mentioned
at
the
planning
board
hearing
back
in
march,
to
try
to
encourage
developers
to
redevelop
the
stamp
area
in
the
ways
proposed
for
the
plan.
X
W
Yeah
so
I
put
a
map
up
so
folks
can
see
the
hatched
area
on
that
city
map
is
the
designated
opportunity
zone,
and
so
that
includes.
W
Well,
I
don't,
I
don't
know
how
to
share,
but
I
can
describe
that.
The
opportunity
zone
in
east
boulder
is
north
of
arapahoe
west
of
55th
and
south
of
belmont,
and
I
might
actually
ask
jennifer
pincino
to
speak
to
incentive
programs
related
to
the
opportunity
zone
and
how
they
might
impact
redevelopment
in
this
area.
AC
AC
It
doesn't
apply
in
every
situation
and
it's
it's
something
that
if
you're
really
interested,
we
could
do
more
research
on.
But
it's
something
that
somebody
who's
a
a
tax
expert
could
provide
a
more
definitive
answer.
X
So
if
I
can
just
follow
up
my,
I
would
appreciate
more
information
on
that
and
I
realize
it's
a
federal
program,
but
lots
of
developers
across
the
country
are
benefiting
quite
significantly
from
the
opportunity
zones
and
I
think
for
as
a
city,
we
should
be
looking
for
ways
for
the
city
to
benefit
that
aren't
just
in
terms
of
building
new
buildings,
but
in
terms
of
letting
those
who
are
benefiting
from
the
opportunity
zone
windfall
so
to
speak,
carry
some
of
the
cost
burden
rather
than
the
city
always
carrying
certain
cost
burdens.
B
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
explain
how
the
plan
takes
into
considerat.
The
draft
plan,
I
should
say,
takes
into
consideration
the
concerns
of
the
folks
who
use
the
airport
and
presently
have
their.
You
know.
Glider
towing
operation
focused
on
over
this
area,
because
it's
not
too
much
resident
activity
there
and
they've
expressed
concerns
to
me
about
what
the
impact
might
be
on
their
operations
and
it'd,
be
interesting
to
know
how
this
plan
addresses
that.
W
Yeah,
so
we
met
with
a
couple
of
folks
who,
who
fly
glider
planes
out
at
the
airport
and
there's
a
they
use
a
tow
plane
to
take
off
so
the
plan.
I
think
we
met
with
them,
maybe
a
month
and
a
half
ago
a
month
ago,
and
since
that
conversation
we've
updated
recommendations,
I
think
it's.
Maybe
we
added,
I
think
it's
m16
is
the
the
actual
recommendation
that
describes
future
steps
for
doing
a
part.
150
study,
which
helps
us
understand
any
noise
impacts
that
might.
W
Indicate
compatibility
issues
and
then,
as
part
of
future
steps,
we
would
look
at
expanding
that
we
could
potentially
look
at
expanding
that
airport
influence
zone
and
that's
outlined
in
the
plan.
Now.
Q
So
so,
how
would
that
impact,
what
the
plan
proposes
and
what
we're
dealing
with
at
this
point.
W
Yeah
so
some
of
the
things
that
might
come
out
of
that
study
and
an
expansion
of
the
airport
influence
zone-
and
I
think
what
some
of
those
advocates
are
most
interested
in-
would
be
something
like
a
navigation
easement.
So
just
letting
property
owners
or
potential
property
owners
or
potential
renters
know
that
gliders
fly
in
that
airspace
and
that
they
use
a
tow
plane
to
get
up
there.
Q
So,
basically,
requiring
information
to
be
provided
to
anyone
proposing
to
have
property
there
is
that
is
that
how
it's
dealt
with.
W
Yep
that
that's
correct
and-
and
you
know
my
understanding
from
those
folks
is
their
their
concern-
is
that
there
would
be
an
increase
in
complaints
about
flights.
B
Okay,
now
I
think
we'll
go
to
the
public
hearing.
We've
got
two
people
signed
up
lynn,
siegel
and
kurt
nordback,
so
if
we
can
get
that
started,
please.
S
You
better,
you
better,
get
some
more
interest
in
this,
because
this
is
big
just
say:
no
east
boulder
sub
community.
No,
no
to
the
opportunity
to
zone
moratorium
up
on
the
odds
in
10
years.
You
can
just
walk
out
free
of
cost.
This
is
outrageous
where's,
my
timer
again
can't
we
get
the
timer
on
here,
guess
not
economic
analysis.
S
How
could
you
possibly
be
thinking
on
going
forward
with
this?
Without
an
economic
analysis,
you
need
per
capita
charges
for
each
person,
no
notice
the
rec
centers.
Lately,
there's
nobody
to
work
there
and
we're
going
to
flood
more
people
into
the
rec
centers
that
we
have.
This
is
not
a
freaking
after
thought,
like
brock
creek
was
they
build
the
town
and
then
they
figure
out
the
streets
and
the
community
centers
and
the
infrastructure
as
an
afterthought,
no
way
snap
out
of
it
council
snap
out
of
it
planning
board.
S
S
S
S
S
The
health
sciences
center
that
was
entertained
at
planning
board
last
week,
yep
that
drives
up
the
cost
big
time
apple.
You
know
big
time
and
and
you're
talking
about
making
this
affordable
more
housing.
You
know
what
more
housing
drives
is
more
service
workers
and
guess
what
it
doesn't
matter.
If
you
have
transit
those
people
don't
want
to
be
on
the
bus
all
day
when
they
have
families
and
they
have
lives.
Also,
they
don't
want
to.
Let
not
only
that
someone
in
gun
barrel,
but
gusky
left
for
denver,
because
there
wasn't
enough
there
anymore.
B
Thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Next,
we
have
kurt
nordbach.
AD
Hi
kurt
norbeck
777
delwood
avenue,
I'm
continuing
my
campaign
to
get
us
to
think
a
little
bigger
picture
about
parks
in
east
boulder.
Currently
there
are
just
a
couple
of
big
parks,
mostly
belmont
city
park,
and
the
bike
and
dog
parks
across
the
street.
There's
also
a
large
undeveloped
parcel
east
of
valmet
city
park.
That's
planned
to
be
additional
park
space
directly,
but
there's
currently
little
to
no
park
space,
walkable
from
where
people
work
or
and
live
or
from
where
a
lot
more
people
will
be
working
and
living
in
the
future.
AD
I
understand
the
history
behind
innovation,
but
it's
contrary
to
most
of
our
transportation
and
planning
goals.
If
we
were
to
develop
the
empty
parcel
east
of
belmont
city
park,
it
would
create
as
a
part
it
would
create
what
I
call
the
big
box
store
of
parks.
The
big
box
store
is
large
scale,
something
most
people
drive
to
that
sucks.
The
energy
out
of
small
local
local
walkable
stores,
if
developed
as
currently
envisioned
belmont
city
park,
would
be
similar.
AD
So
my
suggestion
is
to
exchange
that
empty
park
for
additional
small
neighborhood
parks
distributed
across
the
east.
Boulder
sub-community
area
would
allow
many
more
of
the
future
residents
and
workers
to
walk
to
a
park,
and
it
would
allow
the
parcel
to
be
used
for
a
mix
of
uses,
hopefully
including
a
lot
more
housing
in
a
great
location
next
to
goose,
creek
and
the
existing
park.
This
seems
completely
aligned
with
the
goals
that
staff
heard
from
the
community.
AD
B
O
I
just
one
on
the
parks
question.
My
understanding
is
that
the
the
belmont
park
space
is
already
parks
owned
and
it's
planned
as
a
large
park.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
there's
much
movement
there,
but
in
I
don't
know
also
that
it's
either
or
that
we
can't
have
the
small
neighborhood
parks
along
with
that.
So
just
wondering
staff
are
there?
Is
there
room
for
more
parks?
Do
we
need
more
parks?
Are
there
already
enough
in
there?
In
your
estimation,
you
know
where
there's
going
to
be
housing
and
people
working.
W
Yeah,
so
we've
had
the
great
benefit
of
the
parks
and
recreation
master
plan
going
on
at
the
same
time
as
the
sub-community
plan.
So
we've
been
able
to
coordinate
with
that
group
and
when
that
department
has
been
looking
at
levels
of
service,
they've
looked
at
our
projected
populations
and
we're
we're
on
we're
anticipated
to
meet
our
our
level
of
service
for
the
amount
of
park
space
per
person.
W
But
the
plan
also
includes
an
idea
for
a
program
about
privately
owned
public
space,
and
so
this
is
a
program
that
we've
seen
implemented
in
other
cities.
Where,
as
development
occurs,
we
can
work
with
developers
to
help
identify
and
create
more
social
gathering
spaces,
especially
when
we're
thinking
about
potentially
larger
development
projects
and
being
able
to
kind
of
work
across
different
parcels
to
create
more
green
space
access.
B
Okay,
well
seeing
no
other
follow-up
questions,
then
I
would
then
request
for
someone
from
the
planning
board
to
to
make
a
motion
to
continue
your
agenda
item
to
thursday
may
5th
for
this
island.
John
well,.
Q
I
think
we're
happy
to
do
that.
I
I
had
thought
that
there
would
be
an
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
ask
additional
questions
of
staff
if
there
are
any.
Q
Well,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everyone
realizes
here
that
this
is
their
best
chance
to
do
that,
seeing
none.
I
I
think
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
for
planning
board
to
continue
this
agenda
on
thursday
may
5th,
2022
for
board
deliberation
and
action
on
the
proposed
east
boulder
sub-community
plan.
AH
Q
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
all
in
favor,
raise
your
hand,
looks
like
everybody
likes
that
idea.
So
that's
what
we'll
do.
Thank
you
and
we
appreciate
joining
you
for
this
public
hearing.
B
B
H
I
move
to
continue
this
public
hearing
until
next
week
may
17.
O
B
H
E
B
W
A
B
E
AK
Council,
let
me
just
queue
up
the
presentation.
If
you
don't
mind.
AK
AK
Okay,
terrific
we're
in
business.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
We
are
anticipating
that
this
will
be
a
relatively
short
conversation,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
up
a
topic
about
video
testimony
for
council
meetings.
This
is
a
topic
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past.
With
previous
councils,
we
have
some
new
council
members
and,
as
you
all
know,
we're
about
to
enter
an
exciting
new
phase
where
council
meetings
are
actually
available
to
the
public,
both
in
person
and
online.
AK
So
as
a
recap
for
past
council
members
and
a
little
bit
of
a
guidance
for
current
new
council
members,
we
have
been
welcoming
testimony
for
community
members
throughout
this
pandemic.
Virtually
for
city
council
meetings
in
march
of
2020,
we
pivoted
pretty
quickly
to
learning
some
new
technology
to
try
to
continue
to
allow
for
public
participation.
AK
However,
due
to
security
and
first
amendment
concerns,
we
had
to
make
a
determination
pretty
early
on
in
the
pandemic,
that
we
would
only
allow
testimony
to
be
audio
in
these
virtual
environments.
We
had
at
least
one
unfortunate
situation
in
a
city
council
hosted
event,
and
I
know
some
community
groups
have
also
experienced
some
unfortunate
incidents
with
what
we
call
zoom
bombing
people,
showing
video
of
inappropriate
things
in
public
meetings
really
designed
to
disrupt
those
sessions.
AK
The
issue
today
is
whether
we
want
to
continue
to
allow
video
allow
testimony
in
a
virtual
space
to
be
audio.
Only
we've
talked
about
this
a
couple
times
and
council
has
opted
to
keep
the
testimony.
Audio
only
what's
different
about
today
is
that
we
are,
as
I
mentioned,
going
into
this
exciting
new
world,
where
we
are
going
to
starting,
may
17th,
be
giving
our
community
two
different
ways
to
participate
in
council
meetings.
One
is
from
the
convenience
of
their
own
home.
They
can
continue
to
testify,
as
they
have
throughout
the
pandemic.
AK
AK
The
the
situation
that
we
have,
however,
is
that
we
will
have
two
different
levels,
I
suppose,
of
participation.
If
they're
in
an
online
space,
people
will
still
be
only
audio.
That's
the
staff
recommendation
because
of
the
very
same
security
concerns
and
first
amendment
concerns
that
existed
when
we
were
in
a
virtual,
only
space.
If
people
are
here,
however,
they
can
stand
at
the
podium
and
they
can
be
fully
seen
the
your
facial
expressions
can
be
seen
by
each
of
you.
AK
So
we
think
that,
actually,
what
we're
offering
is
two
different
opportunities
and
community
members
are
free
to
decide
what's
most
important
to
them,
the
convenience
of
being
in
their
own
home
or
coming
here
and
being
seen
fully
in
person.
We
do
very
much
see
this
as
an
enhancement
of
engagement
experience,
but
we
recognize
some
folks
really
would
like
to
be
able
to
turn
their
camera
on
and
we're
asking
you
once
again
what
your
thoughts
as
a
council
are
about
that.
AK
Given
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
expressed
in
the
past
and
the
experiences
that
we've
had
so
to
be
clear,
the
staff
recommendation
is
that
we
welcome
the
community
back
in
both
these
forums
starting
on
may
17th,
but
that
we
continue
to
have
testimony
from
the
public
be
audio.
Only
if
they're,
testifying
in
our
zoom
platform
gives
us
the
best
ability
to
control
and
prevent
those
unfortunate
incidents.
Z
Thank
you.
I
just
have
a
question.
I
really
appreciate
giving
community
members
both
opportunity,
especially
if
someone
cannot
come
here
due
to
various
reasons.
So
that's
really
great
my
question
to
you.
It
relates
to
having
I
wonder,
what's
the
issue,
because
I
remember
I'm
not
sure
if
the
rest
of
council,
some
of
the
new
council
members
know
really
what's
the
security
reason
as
to
why
we
don't
allow
videos.
AK
Sure
I
can
be
more
specific,
so
in
the
zoom
world
we
have
found
that
there
are
sometimes
folks
who
are
more
interested
in
disrupting
the
meeting
than
actually
participating
in
meaningful
engagement,
and
we
had
a
incident
very
early
on
where
we
hosted
a
public
engagement
event
actually
around
covid
and
what
people's
needs
were
where
council
members
were
present
and
we
had
some
folks
come
in.
I
actually
don't
believe
they
were
from
the
city
of
boulder
but
come
into
the
meeting,
and
they
were
displaying
child
pornography,
pornographic
images
on
the
video
behind
them.
AK
We
obviously
want
to
support
everybody's
rights
to
speak
and
express
themselves
and
that
situations
that
put
staff
in
that
sort
of
content,
arbiter
role
are
very
challenging,
and
so
we
made
a
determination
to
not
allow
video
from
that
point
forward.
People
are
able
to
speak
their
mind,
of
course,
and
be
heard
verbally
by
you
all
as
council
members,
but
we
limited
the
video
capability.
Z
I'll
just
either
ask
a
follow-up
or
also
make
a
comment.
I
am
on
a
different
board,
but
at
the
state
level,
where
community
members
well
community
members,
meaning
the
whole
state
of
colorado,
people
come
in
and
they
actually
use
their
videos
in
their
we've,
never
had
any
issues,
but
I
do
understand
the
concern,
but
I'm
wondering
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
control
the
background
or
is
there
is
no
way
to
control
that
background
that
once
you
open
that
video,
it's
just
anything,
can
be
seen
from
that
side.
AK
So
I'm
going
to
address
both
parts
of
that.
If
I
can,
we
know
that
there
are
government
agencies
that
are
allowing
video
testimony.
It's
really
there's
a
wide
range.
We
did
a
little
bit
of
a
brief
survey
of
some
local
governments.
I
know
the
state
in
many
instances
is
allowing
video
and
I
truly
believe
that
in
99
of
these
situations,
community
members
and
folks
who
want
to
testify
on
these
matters
are
showing
up
in
good
faith.
It's
that
one
percent
chance
which
we've
already
experienced
that
causes
us
a
lot
of
difficulty.
AK
B
To
have
a
question
to
that
folks:
do
we
have
additional
implications
because
we're
broadcasting
the
meeting
on
tv.
AK
B
I
Yeah,
I
think
my
only
concern
with
the
zoom
option-
I
think
I've
stated
this
before
as
well
is
covet-
is
still
going
on
right.
People
are
still
dying,
they're
still
being
hospitalized
and
for
folks
that
have
that
are
immune,
compromised
or
have
some
sort
of
disorder
that
makes
them
very
susceptible
to
covid.
AK
Yeah,
I
greatly
understand
and
appreciate
the
equity
concern
for
folks
who
cannot
physically
make
the
choice
to
come
into
the
council
chambers.
I
may
let
our
city
attorney
weigh
in
here,
but
I
think
that
the
the
challenge
is
that
carving
out
exceptions
requires
us
to
make
some
determinations
that
could
could
step
over
the
line.
But
theresa
do
you
have
some
thoughts.
I
About
teresa,
just
before
you
I'm
just
wondering
I
mean
to
me,
it
feels
very
similar
to
say
having
a
wheelchair,
accessible
door
or
something
like
that,
and
so
I
would
be
interested
too
and
just
understanding.
What's
the
difference
here.
That
makes
that
not
possible.
AA
When
we're
talking
about
the
first
amendment,
it's
hard,
if
we
start
parsing
out
groups
of
people
for
different
treatment
than
than
others,
you
know
your
ada
accommodation
idea
is
an
interesting
one
and
frankly,
not
one.
I've
looked
into
how
the
ada
would
intersect.
With
the
first
amendment
here
I
will
tell
you
that
I
have
some
reservations
about
creating
special
classes
of
of
folks
to
have
different
rights
than
other
people
who
are
participating
in
the
meeting.
O
Well,
first
of
all,
listening
to
that,
sarah
bob
and
I
have
been
the
council
members
of
the
subcommittee
on
engagement
since
I
got
on
council-
and
you
know
hearing
you
talk
about
like
pivoting
really
quickly
in
in
april
2020
and
that
I
think
bob
and
I
were
the
ones
in
that
meeting
where
the
zoom
bombing
occurred,
and
it
was,
I
guess,
for
anyone
not
understanding
it.
It
was
extremely
graphic
and
difficult
things.
O
So
I'm
still
pretty
chastened
from
that
as
well,
and
I
do
want
to
say
I'm
so
appreciative
of
all
the
work
that
you've
done
on
the
engagement
subcommittee
for
the
last
two
years.
It's
not
been
easy
and
you've
been
working
hard,
and
I
know
that
you've
been
looking
and
the
team
at
issues
of
equity
and
fairness,
and-
and
I
also
appreciate
that,
for
you
know
other
cities
or
other
agencies
that
are
able
to
do.
This
may
have
more
robust
staffing,
like
we've
lost
half
a
lot
of
staff
during
covid
so
appreciate.
O
You
know
the
balancing
act
that
we
have
to
find
and
then
also
just
want
to
say
that
I
used
to
testify
a
lot
in
front
of
council
and
there
was
just
a
few
weeks.
Maybe
maybe
it
was
a
few
months
where
we
could
call
in
a.
O
Difficult
it
didn't
work
and
there
were
a
couple
times
where
I
was
sick
and
I
couldn't
get
here
and
I
had
to
cancel.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
silver
lining
to
kovid
that
now
we
are
going
to
have
an
opportunity
to
still
be
heard
that
we
didn't
have
two
years
ago
so
again
just
grateful.
I
think
we
are
adding
an
extra
layer
of
engagement
that
wasn't
possible
two
years
ago.
So
I
I
I
wish
that
we
had
a
more
perfect
solution,
but
I
think
this
one's
pretty
good.
B
So
I'll
call
on
myself,
I
agree
with
the
staff
recommendation
to
keep
it
audio
only.
I
think
the
the
difficulty
of
making
a
a
determination
on
the
spot
about
whether
something
is
speech
allowed
by
the
first
amendment
or
not
in
terms
of
visual
offensive
material
is
a
very
difficult
one
and
I
hate
to
put
staff
in
that
position.
I
might
find
myself
in
that
position
or
a
future
mayor
might,
which
would
be
a
very
challenging
one,
not
being
a
first
amendment
attorney
might
make
the
wrong
call.
But
nicole.
B
I
really
appreciate
your
your
equity
point
and
I
would
just
say
that
I've
heard
a
great
deal
of
public
testimony
over
the
last
10
odd
years,
and
I've
found
the
the
zoom
testimony
to
be
audio
only
to
be
as
impactful
as
the
in-person
testimony
that
I've
heard
over
the
years.
So
I
view
it
as
different
options
for
community
members
for
what
they
would
most
appreciate,
but
I
feel
like
their
testimony,
will
be
the
give
me
the
same
amount
of
impact
in
terms
of
the
the
weight
that
their
voice
has.
B
So
so
I'm
comfortable
with
keeping
it
audio
only
for
for
the
remote
testimony.
So
any
other
thoughts
on
this
matter
before
we.
AK
Thank
you.
We
will
be
preparing
some
guidance
to
prepare
the
community
for
this
exciting
opportunity
to
have
two
options
and
be
publicizing
that,
and
we
will
be
as
clear
as
we
can
be
in
what
people
can
expect
in
terms
of
their
options
to
testify.
I
appreciate
your
feedback
this
evening.
B
E
Yes,
sir,
we
have
item
eight,
a
which
is
a
discussion
endorsement
or
not
a
five.
That's
related
to
the
letter
of
support
for
council
member
joseph's
election
to
the
colorado
municipal
league
board.
Z
B
Great
well,
I'm
just
going
to
call
on
myself
and
just
say
as
mayor,
I'm
extremely
grateful
to
you
for
stepping
up
and
submitting
your
name
forward.
I
know
you'll
represent
the
city
incredibly
well
at
the
cml
policy
board,
so
I
just
wonder
if
we
can
just
have
an
acclimation
here
for
yay.
Okay,
thank.
Z
AE
Yeah
so,
as
you
know,
the
state
preemption
on
minimum
wage
has
changed
and
we're
now
allowed
to
enact
local
minimum
wages
through
the
boulder
county
consortium
of
cities.
We're
forming
a
working
group
to
look
at
that
a
number
of
neighboring
communities
all
looking
at
it
together
because
under
the
state,
the
new
state
law
there's
sort
of
a
maximum
number
of
implementations
of
this.
That
can
happen
that,
along
with
the
benefits
of.
AE
Implementing
over
a
wider
area
so
that
some
of
the
pitfalls
to
minimum
wage
can
be
eased.
You
know,
for
instance,
if
all
the
surrounding
communities
do
it.
We
don't
stand
such
a
risk
of
businesses,
maybe
moving
just
outside
of
city
limits,
or
something
like
that.
So
I
would
am
looking
from
for
support
from
council
to
join
this
working
group
and
as
we
progress
so
as
this
is
something
that
would
have
to
be
implemented
by
the
city
eventually
for
it
to
come
into
play
here.
AE
I
will
also
maybe
coming
back
with
a
request
for
staff
time
just
to
look
at.
You
know,
review
what
we're
working
on
and
make
sure
that
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
AE
We
are
starting
so
when
the
working
group
is
formed
which
will
be
in
the
next
consortium
meeting,
one
of
the
first
things
we'll
be
looking
at
will
be
an
outreach
and
engagement
sort
of
plan
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
a
number
of
stakeholders
involved
as
well.
B
Thanks
for
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
a
clarifying
question
over
here
to
teresa,
so
by
designating
lauren
for
this
with
a
knot
of
five.
My
understanding
is
that
we
would
be
empowering
her
to
participate
in
this
working
group,
but
that
any
official
action
to
raise
the
minimum
wage
in
the
city
would
require
public
hearings
and
public
engagement
later
on
in
the
process
is
that
is
that
correct.
B
AE
B
Z
Z
There
was
a
cac
comment
that
was
sent
in
by
council
member
mark
who's,
not
here
today.
So
I'm
wondering
is
that
discussion
happening
next
week
about
revisiting
or
rules
when
it
comes
to
attending
remotely
or
in
person.
B
Yeah,
so
what
happened
was
we
were
all
set
to
authorize
mark
to
participate
remotely
tonight,
thanks
for
bringing
this
up
juni,
but
because
he
was,
he
did
initially
inform
us
that
he
was
ill
and
would
not
be
able
to
attend
in
person.
So
we
were
getting
set
to
authorize
him
to
attend
virtually.
B
Then
it
turns
out
that
he
was
so
sick.
He
was
not
even
up
to
attending
virtually
so
it
didn't
end
up
coming
up
here,
but
we
are
having
a
larger
discussion
on
exactly
when
you
attend
virtually
and
when
in
person
I
think
generally.
The
the
agreement
is
that
for
a
one-off,
it's
fine
to
participate
virtually,
but
we'll
have
a
larger
discussion
teresa.
Do
you
want
to
I'm
not
theresa
nuri?
Do
you
want
to
tell
us.
U
Sure
we
do
plan
and
we
had
planned
to
bring
this
forward
around
this
time.
Actually,
but
with
all
the
sort
of
rebalancing
of
meetings,
we
decided
to
wait
a
little
bit,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
give
you
options
on
some
rules
as
we
move
forward.
I'll
also
say
that
virtual
attendance
may
be
impacted
by
whatever
state
laws
may
impact
attendance
for
meetings
right
now.
Under
the
emergency
orders,
they're
allowed
to
be
virtual
and
we'll
be
looking
again
into
whether
that
can
continue
in
the
future.
U
F
F
That
is
if
they
are
for
matters
of
counsel-
and
I
know
we're
very
formal
with
sending
in
a
hotline
and
requests
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
ways
in
which
we
can
talk
about
the
organics
in
which
those
matters
for
council
come
up
where
at
any
point
or
at
the
end,
we
can
bring
up
a
situation
or
an
issue,
and
it
can
be
either
quickly
resolved
or
dealt
with
rather
quickly,
and
it
requires
a
longer
conversation.
The
discretion
of
mayor
and,
of
course,
our
city
manager
can
say
yep.
Let's
do
that
later.
F
But
it
may
be
just
a
little
more
clarity.
I
think
for
all
of
us
as
to
where
and
how
those
matters
come
up
for
some
of
that
small
stuff
that
doesn't
require
either
formal
letters
or
emails,
and
then
long
duration
waits
before
we
get
to
address
it,
because
we
can
then
just
knock
some
of
that
stuff
out
rather
quick,
like
perhaps
even
lauren's
request
could
have
been
knocked
out,
pretty
quick
if
it
was
brought
up
as
a
matter.
You.
F
U
I
was
just
about
to
comment
on
that.
Certainly
there
are
some
guidelines
in
the
handbook,
and
but
we
are
coming
back
with
some
opportunities
to
do.
Process
changes.
We're
actually
really
glad
you're
thinking
about
this,
because
one
of
the
reasons
we
chose
to
remove
or
separate
process
changes
from
the
beginning
of
the
retreat
was
to
give
you
all,
particularly
our
new
folks,
some
opportunity
to
be
in
the
midst
of
council
meetings
to
see
what
are
those
things
that
you
want
to
change
as
you've.