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B
Good
evening
tonight,
it's
our
pleasure
to
present
the
draft
2018
2023
capital
improvement
program
or
commonly
refused
to
refer
to
a
CIP,
well
I
have
a
moment.
I
would
really
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
acknowledge
the
staff
for
the
significant
work
and
expertise
and
preparing
this
draft.
The
plan
for
this
evening
is
to
see
a
short
video,
followed
by
a
presentation
and
then
an
opportunity
for
council
to
provide
feedback
and
ask
any
questions.
So
thank
you.
Gene.
C
D
The
city
of
Boulder
has
an
extensive
inventory
of
assets
and
facilities,
including
highly
used
public
spaces
such
as
streets,
libraries,
recreation,
centers
parks
in
public
areas
like
the
Pearl,
Street,
Mall,
open
space
and
mountain
parks.
Our
essential
assets
include
fire
and
police
stations,
water,
marine
stormwater
systems,
as
well
as
those
that
most
people
don't
see
or
use
very
frequently,
such
as
cig
offices
or
maintenance
buildings.
Each
year
the
city
revisits
its
Capital
Improvement,
Program
or
CIP
to
plan
for
the
city's
future
capital
investments
over
the
next
six
years.
D
Guided
by
the
community's
sustainability
framework,
the
CIP
lays
out
a
plan
for
maintaining,
enhancing
and
at
times
expanding
the
city's
capital
infrastructure.
The
sustainability
framework
identifies
seven
overarching
themes
which
are
the
basis
for
city
plans
like
the
Ebola
Valley,
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
Department
master
plans.
The
CIP
is
when
a
community
vision
becomes
a
reality.
D
Baller
continues
to
be
committed
to
the
ongoing
maintenance
and
repair
of
capital
assets,
recognizing
the
critical
value
of
civic
infrastructure
to
the
economic,
aesthetic
and
functional
reliability
of
the
city.
In
fact,
over
three-quarters
of
our
CIP
funding
over
the
next
year
for
maintenance
and
enhancements
to
existing
assets,
this
approach
of
taking
care
of
what
we
have
saves
the
city
money
over
time
as
well
as
ensures
the
quality
services
the
community
expects
community
members
will
enjoy
the
benefits
of
a
number
of
important
projects
that
will
be
completed
in
2017.
D
D
D
D
The
capital
investment
planned
in
the
city
of
Boulder
full
lists
and
description
of
the
proposed
capital
projects
over
the
next
six
years.
Please
see
the
2018
to
2023
draft
capital
improvements
program,
as
always,
Boulder
will
continue
to
invest
in
our
capital
infrastructure
in
order
to
ensure
our
community
is
a
sustainable
and
resilient
sin.
C
Well,
thank
you.
The
some
of
the
numbers
will
change
in
the
video
and
we
can
adjust
those
so
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit.
But
it's
a
nice
thing
to
have
on
our
website
for
our
community
members
to
know
where
their
capital
dollars
are
going
and
to
be
able
to
have
it
as
a
place
that
tells
that
story
so
again
good
evening.
Katie
and
I
are
here
to
just
briefly
provide
an
overview
about
the
capital
improvement
program
and
highlight
some
of
these
key
areas
in
the
capital
budget.
C
The
six
years.
Cip
is
both
a
planning
and
a
financial
guide
to
our
city's
capital
assets.
The
departments
work
together
to
determine
the
right
coordination
of
projects
that
maximize
leveraged
funding,
find
cost
savings
and
also
reduce
the
impact
to
the
community
during
the
time
that
the
work
is
being
done
so.
C
As
we
shown
in
the
video,
we
relate
our
capital
improvements
program
back
to
our
sustainability
framework
by
the
city
charter.
The
planning
department
helps
coordinate
this
the
CIP,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
CIP
really
serves
as
that
tool
that
implements
our
comprehensive,
our
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
where
we
invest
in
our
in
our
capital
projects
and
our
capital.
Improvements
determines
how
we
impact
service
delivery
and
the
livability
in
the
community.
C
C
C
Also
like
to
highlight
on
this
slide,
we
have
a
number
of
departmental
master
plans
that
have
started
or
will
be
underway
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
So
all
of
these
will
be
feeding
into
the
CIP
planning
over
the
over
the
next
few
years.
This
work
will
evaluate
service
delivery
systems,
needs
community
expectations
and
prioritize.
A
lot
of
these
capital
needs,
as
we
move
forward
that
a
mission
or
a
verdict
KT
for
a
couple
slides,
good.
F
Evening
before
I
went
into
the
2018
to
2023
financial
picture,
I
wanted
to
update,
counsel
and
touch
upon
what's
changed
since
what
you've
seen
in
the
budget
book
due
to
revised
revenue
pictures
as
you've
been
hearing
for
over
a
year
now,
when
the
caution
flags
were
flying
last
May,
the
city's
been
closely
monitoring,
trends
and
sales
and
use
tax,
and
what
we've
noticed
based
upon
analysis
is
that
sales
and
use
tax
forecasts
are
revised
down
for
2017
and
2018.
This
is
specifically
in
the
most
volatile
sources,
like
construction
use,
tax
and
business
use
tax.
F
There's
three
major
funds
that
are
affected
with
this
change,
that
are,
sales
tax,
based
transportation
fund,
open
space
and
mountain
parks
and
the
parks
and
recreation
fund.
Each
have
taken
different
strategies
to
adjust
their
projects
in
the
coming
year
and
out
years
with
transportation.
Their
strategy
will
be
to
shift
the
timing
of
certain
projects.
It's
also
important
to
note
that
the
shifts
are
made
in
accordance
with
the
priorities,
the
transportation
master
plan
and
they
focus
on
slowing
enhancements
to
the
system,
while
prioritizing
maintenance.
F
The
open
space
in
mountain
parks
won't
have
any
changes
for
the
2018
budget,
but
they
may
need
to
utilize
reserves
in
future
years.
If
revenue
projections
don't
look
any
better,
they
have
a
pretty
high
Reserve
at
20
percent.
Currently,
Parks
and
Recreation
has
various
funds
that
fund
the
department,
and
so
one
is
based
upon
sales
and
use
tax
and
the
others
based
on
property
touch.
So
their
strategy
will
be
to
shift
funding
sources
of
select
projects
to
help
offset
the
changes
in
sales
and
use
tax.
F
So
I
wanted
to
first
refer
back
to
the
2017
to
2022.
It
isn't
a
mistake
of
their
and
highlight
how
in
2018
and
what
we've
seen
into
jeans
point
over
the
annual
CIP
process,
we've
known
that
2018
is
gonna,
be
a
rather
large
year
and
so
you'll
see
this
coming
into
2018
to
the
2023
CIP
allocations.
That
2018
is
in
fact
a
fairly
large
year
due
to
several
large
projects
that
will
highlight
ones,
including
the
carter
lake
pipeline.
It's
almost
32
million
dollars
and
so
that's
a
drastic
change.
F
F
You'll
also
notice
in
this
chart
that
the
funding
ebbs
and
flows
based
upon
cyclical
facility
maintenance
and
upgrades
needs,
as
well
as
timing
of
new
projects.
One
thing
that
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
during
the
operating
discussion
is
the
notion
to
develop
a
capital
program
for
the
general
fund
departments,
which
you
don't
see
up
here.
F
These
are
all
dedicated
funding
sources,
but,
as
we
know,
and
as
we've
seen
in
the
capital
tax
renewal
discussions,
there's
critical
infrastructure
and
general
fund
departments
like
Police
Fire
NIT
that
require
an
investment
from
the
city
and
we're
planning
to
propose
some
sort
of
phase.
One
of
this
capital
idea
and
building
a
pot
in
the
next
year,
as
you
so
saw
in
the
video
86%
of
our
funding,
is
related
to
capital
maintenance
enhancements.
B
F
C
So,
as
I
mentioned,
one
of
the
key
guiding
principles
is
really
about
taking
care
of
what
we
have
and
focusing
our
capital
investments
on
maintenance
and
enhancements.
So
the
majority
of
the
CIP
is
in
system
and
project
maintenance
and
enhancements,
we're
a
mature,
mature
community,
we're
not
expanding
outwards,
but
we're
paying
attention
to
our
systems
and
our
facilities
and
our
levels
of
service.
Many
of
the
projects
are
repair
replacement
and
renovations
to
existing
assets.
C
So
there's
a
lot
in
there,
but
a
lot
of
really
great
projects,
so
the
CIP
shows
highlights
of
our
complete
completed
and
nearly
completed
projects
as
well
as
upcoming
projects,
and
this
year
we
did
a
little
different
graphic
representation
to
show
within
the
context.
It's
a
sustainability
framework.
C
Lots
of
these
projects,
as
we
mentioned,
have
been
programmed
for
over
the
six
years
and
they're
in
key
areas
around.
This
is
still
a
sustainability
framework,
transportation
and
mobility,
also
in
the
utilities
for
safety,
big
projects,
as
Katie
mentioned,
Carter
Lake
pipeline
and
some
of
the
flood
improvements
to
address
health
and
safety
and
then
also
health
and
recreation.
C
So,
as
I
mentioned,
all
of
our
advisory
boards
provide
him
input
into
this
into
that
departments
CIP
and
that,
in
those
motions,
are
included
in
your
memo.
Late
July,
the
Planning
Board
reviewed
the
capital
improvements
program
and
the
list
of
projects
that
undergo
a
community
and
environmental
assessment
process.
That
unanimously
recommended
adoption
of
the
draft
CIP.
C
The
board
also
passed
a
motion
emphasizing
the
new
comprehensive
plan
policies
around
supporting
local
businesses
and
asked
about
exploring
ways
that
we
might
amande
or
change
or
implement
our
procurement
policy
around
trying
to
support
local
businesses.
The
board
also
passed
a
motion
in
support
of
the
funding
and
the
continued
funding
and
increased
funding
for
public
art,
of
which
we
have
a
plan,
moving
forward
to
be
funding
that,
in
a
more
in
a
long-term
way
and
also
more
consistently.
F
I'm
sure
so
the
next
steps
on
September
12th
you'll
hear
a
study
session
around
the
operating
budget,
specifically
on
October
we're
gonna
be
having
budget
public
hearings.
It's
the
opportunity
for
the
public
to
provide
input
on
our
proposals
for
the
operating
budget
and
the
CIP,
and
in
after
those
hearings,
the
council
will
adopt
the
2018
budget
by
charter.
It
needs
to
be
adopted
by
December
1st,
which
will
also
include
the
CIP
budget.
F
So
we
have
two
questions
that
were
outlined
in
the
memo.
For
you
tonight
one
is:
is
the
2018
to
2023
CIP
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
city,
including
the
Boulder,
Valley,
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
sustainability
framework,
and
the
second
is:
does
counsel,
have
any
feedback
or
questions
regarding
the
CIP,
so
we'll
open
it
up
to
you
now.
Thank.
A
G
Was
real
helpful?
Can
you
could
you
explain
to
us
how
I
think
it
started
talk
a
little
bit
about
it?
Maybe
go
a
little
deeper
in
how
I'm
the
CIP
was
in
front
of
us
DuckTales
with
the
proposed
capital
tax
to
the
3des
percent
to
cabin
tax,
I
notice
that
there's
at
least
three
projects
that
I
think
are
in
both
buckets
the
public
heart,
the
res
and
it's
kind
of
carpenter
and
and
I
know
you're,
not
double
counting
here.
I
know
that
there's
bits
and
pieces
Tripp.
C
C
There
and
I
can
we
have
staff
here
that
can
probably
dig
a
little
deeper
than
I
can,
but
now
do
the
overview
of
their
components
of
the
projects.
The
maintenance
parts
of
them
so
they're
replaced
so
for,
like,
for
example,
first
got
carpenter
of
the
replacement
of
the
pool.
That's
in
our
current
CIP,
some
of
the
enhancements
are
part
of
the
funding
that
would
be
anticipated
with
it
with
the
renewed
community
culture
and
safety
similar
to
with
four
mile
for
mile
has
the
flood
improvements.
C
That's
part
of
the
flood
enter
Enterprise
funding
and
then
some
green
waste
funding
for
some
of
the
path
path,
improvements
and
the
work,
that's
in
conjunction
with
that,
but
the
bridge
replacement
and
some
of
the
other
path
replacements
would
be
part
of
the
the
capital
taxes
so
effectively.
If
the.
If
the,
if
the
tax
passes,
those
will
be
wrapped
into
the
CIP
and
those
projects
will
be
able
to
move
ahead
with
those
enhancements
quicker.
If
the
text
does
not
pass,
those
projects
will
be,
the
scope
will
be
adjusted
and/or.
The
timing
will
be
adjusted
in.
H
Mind
man,
okay,
my
question
is
just
it
seems
like
some
of
the
projects
that
are
in
the
community
culture
texts
like
the
police,
communications
infrastructure.
That's
such
a
basic
for
health
and
safety.
Why?
Wouldn't
that
go
in
as
a
high
priority
in
the
SIPP,
rather
than
putting
that
in
the
community
and
culture
tax.
C
So
that's
a
one
of
our
key
unfunded
needs
that
has
been
moving
along
in
the
process.
We
completed
this
study
for
the
radio
infrastructure
last
year
and
have
a
really
good
sense
of
what
that
funding
is
now,
so
that
being
a
very
important
Health
and
Safety
and
project.
As
you
say,
if
the
tax
doesn't
pass,
we'll
be
adjusting
the
budgets
in
the
end,
the
CIP,
to
be
Oh,
to
make
sure
that
we
clear
you're,
saying
if.
H
F
It
goes
to
the
comment
around
how
we
want
to
develop
a
general
fund
capital
program
that
can
anticipate
and
plan
for
critical
infrastructure
around
these
general
fund
departments
like
police
and
fire
and
IT,
and
we
always
want
to
create
a
conservative
budget
where
we
don't
anticipate
that
taxes
will
pass,
and
so
we've
fold
it
into
the
operating
discussion,
because
it
wasn't
quite
ready
to
be
presented
as
part
of
the
capital
improvement
program.
That
falls
a
little
bit
more
in
line
with
operating
dollars.
Right
now,
so.
H
F
I
This
one
is
transportation,
and
please
excuse
me
if
you
answered
some
of
this
deeper
in
their
word,
the
material
was
presented
in
different
places
in
different
different
formats,
so
I
may
not
have
caught
the
answers.
In
any
case,
my
first
question
is
has
to
do
with
the
missing
links
and
crossings.
So
it's
a
transportation
question.
J
We
have
a
every
year.
We
have
a
prioritization
effort
where
we
identify
excuse
me:
Garrett
Slater,
with
transportation.
So
we
every
year
we
prioritize
locations
where
we
have
missing
sidewalk
links
within
the
pedestrian
system
and
that
can
include
both
the
along
as
well
as
the
across
for
the
facilities.
So
there's
a
prioritization
for
places
where
we
might
want
to
implement
crossing
treatments
as
well
as
missing
links
for
the
for
the
sidewalk.
So
we
call
that
our
pet
pet
treatment
budget
and.
K
There
Lauren
Kilcoy,
no
SMP
most
of
what
you
see
in
the
CIP
for
the
campus
relocation
addresses
our
interim
space.
So
through
our
multi-phased
campus
assessment,
we
realized
that,
unfortunately,
we
will
likely
have
to
move
twice
so
we'd
be
moving
into
an
interim
space.
While
we
develop
further
that
longer-term
vision,
so
you're
right
that
seven
million
would
essentially
cover
the
lease
on
our
interim
space
and
some
additional
planning
efforts
for
the
long
term
vision.
Thank
you.
K
Was
it's
been
part
of
a
multi-year
capital
project
to
develop
our
options
around
our
future
space,
and
that
was
in
working
with
partners
and
in
finance
and
in
in
the
department
and
our
consultants?
That
was
the
recommendation
that
we
have
that
flexibility,
depending
on
the
timing
of
when
the
future
space
comes
up,
that
we
would
have
capital
funding
available
to
handle
the
interim
and
the
long-term
need.
Thanks.
L
L
I
You
I
have
another
open
space
question
during
the
presentation
you
mentioned
that
the
open
space
fund
may
have
to
dip
into
reserves,
and
three
years
ago,
four
years
ago
we
switched
the
part
of
the
open
space
tax
to
transportation.
So
I'm
wondering
in
that
analysis,
did
something
changed
that
now
we're
thinking
we
may
need
to
dip
into
reserves.
I
K
Thanks
for
the
question
we
have
been
working
for
the
last
several
years
on
what
the
right
reserve
amount
is
for
such
a
sales
tax,
dependent
Department
and
a
couple
years
ago
we
increased
from
10%
up
to
20%
in
contingency
reserves.
We've
also
been
maintaining
a
very
strong
fund
balance.
We
knew
that
two
increments
of
our
sales
tax
would
be
expiring,
one
in
2019
and
the
other
in
2020,
and
just
knew
we
wanted
to
prepare
years
in
advance
and
start
reserving
funds
and
keeping
that
fund
balance
available.
K
For
when
that
day
came
and
with
the
revised
revenue
projections
over
the
last
months,
we
don't
anticipate
any
changes
needed
for
the
current
year
or
for
next
year,
but
we're
looking
at
maybe
a
year
earlier
than
anticipated
between
revenues
and
the
expiration
of
sales
tax,
making
some
adjustments
there.
So.
K
Is
yeah
and
of
course,
things
continue
to
shift
and
we're
trying
to
be
as
conservative
as
possible
right
now,
we'll
make
every
effort,
of
course,
to
spend
as
close
to
within
annual
revenues
as
we
can,
but
we
know
we
have
known
for
a
number
of
years
that
2019
and
2020
will
be
a
shift
for
the
department
with
the
expiration
of
sales
tax,
so
we're
just
trying
to
be
really
proactive
and
conservative
and
and
have
that
those
dollars
set
aside.
Thank.
I
J
Part
of
that
reduction
and
the
overall
cost
it
was
when
we
were
first
looking
at
the
implementation
measures.
We
were
assuming
worst
case
scenario
at
each
of
the
crossings,
but
after
conducting
a
site
investigation
with
representatives
from
BNSF
from
the
federal
from
Burlington
Northern
from
the
Federal
Railroad
Administration
the
county
and
as
well
the
Public
Utilities
Commission,
we
were
able
to
identify
that
in
a
number
of
locations.
J
There
are
already
a
number
of
existing
features
that
limit
the
amount
of
enhancements
that
are
needed
at
the
crossing
locations
to
bring
them
into
quiet
zone
compliance,
and
so
that
is
what
allowed.
What's
the?
What
followed
then
was
a
reduction
in
the
overall
cost
to
implement
and
implement
the
improvements
at
each
of
those
crossings.
For
example
pearl.
J
I
J
With
respect
to
the
momentum,
I'm
not
sure
how
to
respond
to
that,
but
I
would
say
that
there
would
be
an
opportunity
to
take
advantage
of
the
construction
cost
dollars
that
we
have
in
place
now
as
opposed
to
later.
So
that
would
be
an
advantage
to
implementing
the
all
the
crossings
sooner
than
later.
Okay,.
L
M
A
question
about
there's
citizen
talking
to
me
about
some
of
the
recent
derailment
and
some
of
the
dangers
that
occur
from
type
of
action
on
tracks
called
mud
and
pumping,
and
so,
if
you
have
pools
water
nearby,
where
the
railroad
embankments
are,
you
can
get
this
degradation
of
track
and
high-quality.
So
I'm
curious.
M
Where
does
the
maintenance
lines
get
drawn
so,
for
instance,
there's
a
pool
of
standing
water
over
near
the
Pearl
crossing,
which
is
one
that
is
of
concern
because
of
the
high
population
there,
and
so
how
do
we
divide
up
what
the
city
does?
As
far
as
say,
drainage
goes
versus
what
the
NSF
does
for
drainage.
J
So,
in
terms
of
maintenance
responsibilities,
it's
largely
assessed
by
who
was
there
first
and
as
well,
the
right-of-way
that's
in
place
so,
and
the
BNSF
right
away
was
there
long
before
city
street
rights
of
wait
were
present.
So
if
there
are
maintenance
issues
such
as
track
maintenance
or
drainage
issues
that
are
occurring
within
their
right
of
way,
we
as
a
city
don't
actually
have
any
purview
to
be
able
to
to
go
in
and
tell
them
what
to
do
inside
there,
their
right-of-way.
J
We
actually
have
to
formally
request
permission
to
enter
their
there
right
away
or
we
actually.
When
we
go
out
and
meet
with
them,
we
have
to
wait
until
they
arrive
on
site
in
order
to
actually
be
able
to
enter
their
right-of-way.
So
what
we've
learned
is
that
what
we
have
the
opportunity
to
do
is
to
notify
them
of
our
concerns
and
they'll
note
them
and
and
prioritize
them
as
they
see
fit.
Okay,.
M
I
I
A
J
So
the
the
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
grant
did
not
stipulate
where
we
needed
to
implement
those,
but
through
a
public
engagement
process
and
through
a
prioritization
efforts
that
was
fairly
robust
in
its
length
and
magnitude.
We
determined
that
pearl,
Valmont
and
xlvii
should
be
the
recipients
of
the
initial
funds
of
that
grant.
Thanks.
I
Okay,
my
next
question
is
guess
what
transportation
this
is
with
respect
to
the
the
rehab
runway
and
Eastern
taxiway
at
the
airport,
and
the
question
has
to
do
with
the
airport
fund.
I
was
close
to
know
what
revenues
make
up
the
airport
fund.
N
I
I
So
this
question
is
about
the
automated
meter
reading
and
the
allocated
amount.
There
is
seven
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
and
for
automated
reading
as
I
recall
the
years
ago
when
that
happened,
it
was
like
a
long
process
and
there
were
hardware
was
put
in
and
stuff
and
so
I'm
surprised
to
see
that
the
number
actually
seems
low
to
me.
So
I
was
curious
to
know
what
that
automated
reading
is.
Actually,
yes,.
P
So
it's
significantly
more.
Our
estimation
at
this
point
is
that
we
probably
have
probably
five
six
years
before
we
need
to
start
replacing
our
existing
fleet
of
meters.
So
the
idea
would
be
to
start
accruing
funds
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
the
future.
Ideally,
we
would.
We
would
phase
it
over
multiple
years
that
the
meters
we
have
an
hour
put
in
I
think
over
a
five
or
six
year
period,
so
they
won't
halt
at
the
end
of
their
useful
life
at
once.
P
So
at
this
point,
we're
really
starting
to
explore
what
the
technology
will
likely
be
at
that
point,
because
what
we
have
now
is
rather
simplistic.
It's
drive
by
once
a
month
reads
and
modern
technology
would
allow
us
to
do
some,
real-time
things
and
some
enhancements
that
would
likely
be
of
benefit.
I
Q
R
Some
of
the
questions
that
were
asking
they're
kind
of
general
but
I'll
try
to
make
them
project
related.
So
the
question
about
the
the
money
for
the
upgrade
for
the
radio
infrastructure-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
general
question
I
have
is
so
if
this
tax
doesn't
pass.
Are
we
gonna
go
ahead
and
do
some
of
these
things
anyway,
because
they're
really
high
priority
or
are
they
not?
And
you
said
well
for
the
radio
infrastructure,
we
would
go
ahead
and
do
it.
R
Because,
in
effect,
it
seems
to
me-
and
maybe
this
is
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question-
just
go
ahead
with
it-
that
really,
if
this
is
on
the
ballot,
how
are
we
funding
this?
This
is
gonna
get
funded
anyway.
What
we're
funding
is
the
stuff
that
would
get
knocked
off
if
yeah.
If
we
had
to
fund
this,
it's
just
seems
like
we're
going
about
this
backwards.
R
In
other
words,
if
this
is
really
the
community's
top
priority,
it
should
be
in
the
CIP
not
in
some
potential
ballot
issue
that
might
or
might
not
pass
and
it's
the
stuff
that
could
come
off
that
isn't
absolutely
dire
essential
that
should
really
be
in
the
ballot
issue.
So
I
don't
expect
you
to
answer
that,
but
what
I
would
like
to
know
is
a
better
sense
of
so
what
would
come
off?
What
gets
bumped?
R
Essentially
if
this
has
to
be
funded
in
the
next
three
years
or
so,
because
it
is
so
critical
and
I'm.
Assuming
it's
critical,
you
said
that
you
thought
we
would
fund
it
and
I,
don't
doubt
that
I
would
certainly
fund.
It
makes
sense.
So
that's
a
question,
but
not
obviously
to
be
answered
right
at
this
minute.
If
I.
A
Could
just
add
to
that
too
I
mean
just
to
be
clear
as
well.
If
you
especially
for
getting
answer,
this
in
writing
is,
is
would
be
not
just
both
what
would
still
be
done
and
then
what
would
be
bumped
off
so
that
we
I
mean
to
Matt's
point.
It
was
I
had
the
same
kind
of
question.
It's
almost
like
we
put
the
sexy
projects
on
the
ballot
and,
yes,
it's
not
almost
like.
R
L
R
Kind
of
similar
questions
on
some
of
the
other
items,
kind
of
taking
them
one
at
a
time
and
I
understand
the
answer:
I
guess
of
a
fire
station
I'm
assuming
all
of
us
here-
think
this
critical
is
that's
so
expensive
that
they
be
cards.
You
have
to
bump
everything
else.
So
life
essentially
defined
that,
although
it's
also
so
critical,
maybe
we
would
do
that
if
we
had
to,
but
but
that's
a
really
big
ticket
item.
R
So
maybe
it's
in
its
own
category,
but
let
me
ask
for
some
of
the
other
ones,
so,
scott
Carpenter,
the
pool
and
I
think
this
was
explained
to
us
by
event
last
time,
but
I
may
have
missed
something.
So
my
my
fault,
but
it
sounds
like.
What's
in
the
CIP,
that's
in
the
draft.
Cip,
that's
in
front
of
us
is
kind
of
a
basic
rebuilding
of
the
pool,
so
that
happens
anyway
and
what's
on
the
potential
ballot,
is
kind
of
some
additional
upgrades
and
I
guess.
My
question
is
since
somebody's
here
conveniently.
R
Kind
of
the
same
thing
I
mean
if
it
weren't
on
the
ballot
or
if
the
ballot
didn't
pass,
would
parks
find
that
money
is
there.
Is
that
the
next
highest
priority?
Is
it
okay,
if
it
waited
for
a
while?
Should
it
just
be
in
the
CIP?
That's
what
I'm
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
some
things
are
in
one
bucket
and
some
things
are
in
another,
and
it's
a
little
unclear
to
me
frankly.
R
S
Just
Jeff
Haley
Planning
Manager,
with
Parks
and
Rec
yeah
kind
of
touched
on
it
earlier
in
terms
of
construction,
the
capacity
we
have
today
and
today's
construction
dollars
to
do
improvements
all
at
once
and
so
with
regard
to
scott
Carpenter.
What's
definitely
in
the
our
CIP,
which
is
in
for
any
of
this
evening,
is
to
replace
the
pool,
that's
really
the
basic
need
that
needs
to
be
maintained
and
renovated
through
this
project.
S
In
fact,
that
was
the
overwhelming
desire
from
the
community
as
well
as
our
study,
we
did
in
2015
through
our
aquatics
feasibility
study
to
replace
that
one-of-a-kind
asset
in
the
community.
So
that's
the
replacement
and
in
fact
the
expansion
of
the
50-meter
pool
is
kind
of
the
bread
and
butter
that
project.
S
What
we're
hoping
to
do
with
the
capital
tax
renewal
option
is
to
go
farther
to
provide
a
range
of
family-friendly
amenities,
leisure
pools,
splash
pad
additional
slides
instead
of
just
renovating
the
bath
house
that
exists
today,
actually
expand
it
and
provide
community
rooms
and
spaces.
So
it's
basically
without
going
through
all
the
details.
It's
taking
a
project
that
we're
going
to
do
that.
We
have
to
do
and
allows
us
to
go
farther,
but
while
we're
in
the
ground,
while
we're
doing
construction,
we
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
that.
S
Otherwise,
we've
within
our
Parks
and
Rec
capital
budget,
as
Katie,
was
mentioning.
We
have
certain
funding
funds
that
provide
a
certain
amount
of
money
each
year,
but
we're
in
that
fiscally
constrained
model
where
we
only
have
the
funding.
We
have
there's
a
chance
where
the
community
could
come
along
and
say
yeah,
let's
do
more.
If
the
hell
well.
R
Okay,
but
this
is
a
five-year
CIP
in
front
of
us,
and
so
what
you're
saying
is,
if
you
didn't
get
the
funding
from
some
new
money
that
correct
that
came
along
that
as
nice
as
it
is.
These
additional
features
just
got
carpenter
pool
are
not
a
high
enough
priority
as
all
the
other
stuff
in
the
five-year
CIP,
because
otherwise,
presumably
would
be
in
your
five-year
CIP
correct.
S
We
got
the
model
of,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
the
taking
care
of
what
we
have.
Our
annual
asset
management
program
identifies
a
range
of
in
the
millions
of
dollars
of
critical
assets
that
need
to
be
maintained
or
enhanced
every
year
to
quickly
answer
the
question.
We
may
be
able
to
come
back
in
subsequent
years
and
start
doing
some
of
those
leisure
amenities,
but
the
capacity
with
have
we
have
within
our
CIP.
S
R
Is
the
same
general
concept?
True
I
wasn't
gonna
ask
this,
but
since
she
just
raised
something
similar
out
at
the
reservoir,
what's
in
the
CIP
is
a
pretty
major
renovation
of
the
reservoir.
But
it's
not
everything.
There's
still
some
additional
things.
You'd
like
to
do
that
you
didn't
get
into
the
five-year
CIP
because
you
didn't
have
the
funny.
You
didn't
think
you
had
the
funding
for
it.
So
is
it
kind
of
the
same
concept
there?
It.
S
Is
correct,
you
know
we
look
at
in
terms
of
constructibility
phasing.
What
can
we
do
now?
What
do
we
have
to
do
now?
What
are
ways
we
could
phase
the
project
and
do
certain
things
later
so
with
the
reservoir?
It's
for
the
most
part.
It's
our
visitors
services
center.
So
right
now
that,
in
that
existing
administration
building
with
the
restrooms
and
the
little
concession
stand,
is
in
pretty
bad
shape
from
an
asset
management
standpoint,
it
needs
to
be
replaced
repaired
expanded.
So
that's
the
majority
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
CIP.
S
Once
again,
we
would
like
to
do
and
actually
have
designed
a
nice
beach
improvement.
We
would
like
to
rebuild
a
lifeguard
Shack,
which
is
the
smaller
building
on
site,
so
again
just
a
lot
of
amenities
that
they're
not
absolutely
critical,
but
they
definitely
allow
us
to
do
more
to
reach
more
of
the
community
to
serve
more
of
the
community,
and
if
we
had
those
dollars
now
with
this
upcoming
project
next
year,
we
could
do
that
in
in
current
question,.
R
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
this
or
not,
but
for
both
of
these
projects
either
of
both
of
them,
which
may
be
in
the
bond
issue.
Who
knows
what
it's
going
to
be?
But
is
that?
Because
these
really
are
the
next
top
priorities
and
parks,
or
is
it
because
we're
doing
construction
anyway?
And
so
it's
kind
of
convenient
to
the
rest
of
it?.
S
Excellent
question:
they
are
the
top
priorities
and
so,
in
fact,
we're
providing
some
information
to
City
Council.
As
part
of
this
next
capital
tax
discussion,
we
went
through
a
capital
investment
strategy.
We
worked
very
closely
with
our
Parks
and
Rec
Advisory
Board,
and
we
talked
about
all
NEADS
from
an
asset
management
standpoint:
neighborhood
parks,
rec,
senators,
ball
field,
pools,
etc.
We
worked,
we
did
a
study
session
with
them
and
they
actually
got
to
vote
and
really
discuss
amongst
themselves.
What
are
those
priorities?
S
So
that's
that
capital
investment
strategy
is
specifically
an
outcome
of
our
Parks
and
Rec
Advisory
Board.
Concurrently,
with
all
these
studies
and
engage
in
the
community,
we've
asked
the
users
as
well.
You
know
what
are
those
most
critical
projects
and
so
they've
again
confirmed
the
pool
the
reservoir
valmont's
in
the
list,
and
so
those
are.
The
project
will
provide
that
information
that
goes
into
greater
detail.
Okay,.
R
M
S
Probably
number
two-
probably
it
is
number
two-
the
pool
as
you
can
read
in
our
aquatics
plan,
is
in
very
desperate
shape
in
terms
of
needing
replacement.
So
that's
number
one
and
we
prioritize
these
based
on
use
some
of
the
criteria
you
were
mentioning
earlier,
who
how
many
people
use
it?
Is
there
another
one
of
its
kind
in
the
system,
so
the
pools
number
one
simply
because
of
its
unique
provision
in
the
community.
The
reservoir
is
number
two
just
because
the
age,
the
condition
of
that
facility.
S
M
S
Velma,
we
are
programming
into
the
capital
from
the
program,
the
CIP
in
2020,
but
what
that
does
similar
to
the
responses
earlier
that
basically
allows
us
to
go
in
and
start
doing
some
of
the
next
phase
of
development.
You
know
we
recognize
the
community,
they
don't
it's
important
to
take
care
of
what
we
have
and
maintain
and
replace
and
repair.
We
also
want
to
always
keep
providing
new
amenities
to
keep
with
current
trends
and
those
sorts
of
things
so
Valmont
it's
kind
of
next
on
the
priority
just
because
it
is
a
very
critical
park.
S
We've
seen
increased
growth
in
the
east
part
of
town
near
Velma,
there's
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
in
that
area
that
don't
have
access
to
certain
park
amenities.
So
it
allows
us
to
start
reaching
into
that
area
and
serving
those
communities
as
well.
But
it's
not
as
critical
in
terms
of
taking
care
what
we
have
repair
replacement.
R
All
right
things
like
it,
some
of
the
questions,
but
not
on
parks,
actually,
the
next
one's
on
the
four-mile
Canyon
Creek
and
it's
kind
of
its
kind
of
the
same
question
I
mean
these
are
all
similar
ideas,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
my
head
around
this,
which
is
okay.
If
again,
there's
a
pass
or
something
doesn't
work
out.
Are
we
gonna
go
ahead
and
find
the
money
find
a
way
to
finish
that
portion
of
Four
Mile,
Canyon
Creek
from
Broadway
to
19th?
So.
Q
Design
for
that
section
of
Four
Mile
and
our
current
estimate
is
12
point
1
million
dollars
for
the
whole
project
and
after
we
have
completed
the
preliminary
design,
we'll
have
a
better
idea
of
you
know
a
better
estimate
of
the
cost
and
then
we'll
evaluate
where
we
are
with
funding
and
where
we
are.
You
know
the
flood
fund
and
how
much
money
we
have
and
how
we
could
either
delay
the
project
or
how
we
could
delay
portions
of
the
project.
Well,.
R
Q
Tricky
because
we're
replacing
two
bridges
that
one
is
on
upland,
Avenue
and
ones:
I'm
violet,
Avenue.
So,
theoretically,
a
bridge
replacement
can
be
entirely
out
of
the
transportation
fund,
their
structures
that
are
in
poor
condition,
but
we're
replacing
them
to
be
bigger
so
that
they
passed
the
flood
so
that
could
be
funded
out
of
the
flood
fun.
So
we've
done
a
cost
estimate
and
we've
divided
up
the
cost,
as
we
see
appropriately
I
think
the
real
cost
that
is
purely
transportation
is
the
trail
component,
which
is
a
very
small
portion
of
the
total
cost.
Q
Q
R
I
just
want
other
questions
on
this
one,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
Mike
for
transportation,
which
is
again
I
mean
there's
pretty
similar
questions,
which
is
I
mean
this.
This
finishing
of
this
piece
is
not
in
the
five-year
CIP
for
transportation.
So
the
question
is,
you
know
how
higher
priority
is
it
and
if
the
funding
didn't
appear
from
elsewhere,
would
it
is
it
a
high
enough
priority?
R
O
So
I
think
you
know
with
greenways
it's
really
a
unique
opportunity
where
you're
investing
you
know,
cross
a
lot
of
different
objectives
and
you're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
create
a
priority
which
is
across
those
different
things,
so
I'm
a
transportation
perspective.
Those
linkages
might
not
be
all
that
high,
but
from
the
flood
or
riparian
or
habitat
those
types
of
issues
that
may
be,
and
so
a
lot
of
the
time.
O
What
we're
trying
to
sort
out
is,
how
do
we
meld
those
different
priorities
together
and
come
up
with
a
joint
priority
and
so
I
think
we've
been
trying
to
sort
that
out
as
we
get
the
various
foot
studies
done
and
and
figure
out.
Is
there
a
way
to
combine
the
funding
and
fill
some
of
the
gaps
if
we
have
to
fill
those
gaps
so.
R
O
J
So
in
2015
we
conducted
an
assessment
and
an
inspection
of
all
the
minor
structures
within
the
city
which
says
around
250
total
structures
and
of
those
soon
of
50,
the
violet
and
the
upland
structures
rated
in
the
top
15
worst.
So,
irrespective
of
the
Four
Mile
Canyon,
we
would
need
to
go
out
and
do
some
deck
replacements
on
those
bridges.
Okay,.
J
R
R
It's
not
totally
allocated
right
this
minute,
because
you
have
to
kind
of
figure
that
out
you're,
not
gonna
figure
out
for
five
years.
What
you're
gonna
do
each
and
every
year
that'd
be
kind
of
crazy,
but
it
sounds
like
these
are
maybe
big
enough
priorities
that
you
would
potentially
get
to
them
anyway.
I
would.
C
The
committee
asked,
and
we
had
provided
information
on
the
projects
that
were
proposed
for
the
community
culture
safety
tax
renewal,
about
what
would
happen
if
it
doesn't
get
passed
and
some
of
the
prioritization
of
these.
So
we
can
make
sure
that
we
can
point
to
that
information
to
include
some
of
that
and
the
next
memo
for.
R
C
I
think
that
that's
I
mean
back
to
the
radio
infrastructure
in
the
fire
station,
so
many
of
the
parks
and
transportation
and
other
projects
have
the
dedicated
fund
that
are
moving.
You
know
that
that
fund
the
river
CIP,
so
there's
there's
anticipated
funding
and,
as
Katie
mentioned
as
we
work
toward
creating
a
more
general
fund,
CIP
allocated
amount
will
be
able
to
plan
forward
a
lot
of
these
essential
needs
and
especially
essential
replacements
that
will
show
up
in
a
more
six
year
plan.
E
R
General
funds,
the
difficult
one-minute
always
has
been
because
if
you
do
CIP
from
the
general
fund
well
and
you're,
not
gonna
put
money
into
some
operating,
it's
all
one,
big
one,
big
budget
and
I-
think
that
is
something
we
need
to
talk
about
during
the
budget.
But
in
the
meantime
this
is
in
front
of
us.
R
Not
many
of
them
aren't
quite
ready,
yet,
although
some
of
them
would
be
within
a
five-year
period,
presumably-
and
it
would
be
nice
to
get
at
least
some
sense
of
how
we
think
we
might
deal
with
some
other
really
big
numbers
and
I,
just
tossed
that
you
know
one
idea,
you
know
for
the
for
the
hospital
say
it's
true
that
he
might
be
some
public-private
partnership.
There
might
be
a
whole
variety
of
ways
you
could
fund
that.
R
How
many
of
those
things
we
think
so
it's
nice
to
have
a
big
list
of
unfunded
needs,
but
I
mean
how
many
of
them
we
really
think
our
gonna
hit
in
the
next
five
six
seven
years,
and
how
are
we
gonna
deal
with
them?
We're
just
gonna
have
to
go
back
to
the
voters
and
ask
for
more
money.
What
is
it
that
we're
going
to
do
exactly
because
it's
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
projects
and
sure
seemed
to
me
like
many
of
them
are
gonna
have
to
be
dealt
with?
R
I,
don't
I
mean
we
are
gonna,
do
something
with
the
hospital
side.
We
are
gonna.
Do
something
I
hope
with
some
of
the
other
fire
stations
and
so
on,
and
so
on.
So
that's
kind
of
another
general
question
that
if
you
could
we
got
time
before
we
get
back
to
this.
You
know
budget
days,
but
give
us
a
little
bit
of
insight
into
that,
because
those
are
frankly
the
scarier
numbers,
yeah.
C
They're
they're
a
wide
variety
of
different
needs
of
a
wide
bang.
You
know
much
different
magnitudes
clearly
are
gonna
have
to
be
a
combination
of
a
lot
of
different
things.
Some
are
critical
infrastructure
and
some
are
more
of
the
area,
planning,
new
types
of
things
and
other
other
types
of
things,
so
we're
gonna
be
needing
to
think
through
a
lot
of
different
solutions
to
that.
R
And
what
other
thing
and
it
might
be
in
the
memo
or
in
the
draft
CIP
and
I-
may
have
missed
it,
but
we
have
a
list
of
which
of
these
projects
and
the
five-year
CIP
are
being
funded
either
entirely
or
mostly,
by
the
general
fund,
as
opposed
to
the
dedicated
funds,
because
that
would
also
be
helpful
in
terms
of
I
mean
I've.
Looked
for
that
I
didn't
see
it,
but
it
very
well
may
be
there
because
that
may
be
very
helpful
in
this
kind
of
thinking
about.
R
Well,
you've
got
to
do
the
radio
infrastructure
anyway,
no
matter
what
what
else
is
in
there,
that's
being
funded
by
the
general
fund,
because
the
things
being
funded
by
dedicated,
like
they're,
not
competing
in
that
sense,
you're
not
gonna,
get
your
radio
infrastructure.
Money
from
them
has
to
be
from
general
fund
projects,
so
it'd
be
really
nice
to
see
that
list
sorted
by
who's
who's
paying
for
it.
So.
C
R
It'd
be
nice
to
see
I
mean
I,
I've,
always
gotten
this
things.
We
don't
I'll
say
this.
You
can
tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
we
don't
actually
he's
a
whole
lot
of
general
fund
money
for
capital
projects,
with
the
exception
of
once
in
a
while
something
for
fire
or
police
or
or
whatever
or
the
library
actually,
because
their
money
almost
entirely
comes
from
the
general
fund.
Well,
it's
gonna
be
nice
to
see
that
broken
out
by
the
the
fund.
Thanks
thanks
very
much
yeah.
A
H
For
user
devices
and
are
we
covering
everything
there
were
some
big
needs
in
the
audit
that
came
out
that
we
need
to
fix.
So
to
me
the
higher
priority
would
be
to
fix
the
things
that
came
out
in
our
audit
versus
the
end-user
devices
which
in
many
cases
you
just
have
to
replace
periodically.
So
have
we
done
that?
It's
one
question
and
if
you
don't
have
the
answer,
that's
fine.
You
can
go
back
to
me
on
that.
Yeah.
F
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
a
specific
person
from
IT
here
right
now,
but
I
know
that
in
the
operating
budget,
you'll
see
a
proposal
to
help
address
some
of
those
Cafer
related
audit
findings
around
our
legacy
systems
and
their
retirement
of
such
and
starting
to
phase
in
that
that's
not
necessarily
a
capital
item,
but
an
operating
budget
request
that'll
be
coming
forward
to
you.
September
12th.
H
Like
someone
to
come
back
and
just
say,
look
we
are
going
to
handle
those
before
we
handle
these
other
items.
Okay,
number
2
transportation.
I've
got
a
few
transportation
ones.
There
was
a
piece
in
there
about
the
30th
and
Colorado
underpass
at
six
million
dollars.
Basically,
and
we
got
an
email
from
an
nonprofit
organization
questioning
the
value
of
that,
and
it
is
where
it
is
a
lot
of
money
that
we
put
into
these
underpasses.
So
I'd
really
like
to
understand
the
community
involvement
on
those
and
the
prioritization.
H
O
Touch
a
bit
on
the
background
for
that
particular
project
and
from
our
assessment.
It
is
a
really
key
link
in
the
system
connecting
the
main
campus
to
the
East
Campus.
What
we're
foreseeing
in
the
not-too-distant
future
is
the
East
Campus
transitions
from
research,
oriented
environment,
the
more
of
a
core
campus
one
there
and
I
think
some
of
those
things
are
already
happening
in
the
in
the
classroom.
Activity
is
occurring
on
the
East
Campus
and,
for
instance,
the
aerospace
engineering
is
actually
relocating
to
the
East
Campus.
O
What
we
see
is
over
time
the
really
significant
need
for
people
to
be
able
to
turn
over
that
quarter,
mile
between
the
main
campus
edge
and
the
East
Campus,
and
so
the
30th
in
Colorado
was
identified
as
part
of
those
planning
processes
to
be
able
to
connect
between
the
East
Campus
and
then
provide
basically
a
protected
crossing
that'll.
Allow
you
to
then
access
along
college,
which
is
one
block
south
of
Colorado
and
then
there's
an
existing
underpass.
O
H
Did
you
read
that
email
I'm
talking
about
because
that's
really
a
different
philosophy
and
I
guess
if
you
take
the
the
feedback
that
we
got,
then
the
philosophy
over
on
foothills
is
yeah.
That's
a
no
brainer
because
that's
a
highway
right,
but
this
is
more
of
a
neighborhood
more
of
a
community
area
and
you
know
so
I
guess
I
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
which
would
be
the
best
approach.
But
I
I
would
certainly
like
to
you
know.
Have
them
be
heard
out
before
we
make
a
seven
million
dollar
and.
O
So,
maybe
to
continue
to
develop
a
little
bit
of
how
we
proceeded
for
with
that
project
and
respond
to
some
of
the
questions
that
you've
identified.
We
think
that
the
project
is
is
a
key
project
and
it's
not
to
the
exclusion
of
not
doing
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you
received
in
your
letter,
e
from
community
cycles,
and
so
what
we
envision
is
and
we're
doing.
O
The
quarter
planning
for
both
30th
Street
in
Colorado
right
now
with
community
working
group,
is
to
both
enhance
the
surface
crossing
opportunities,
but
also
this
underpass,
and
so
we
really
see
that
that
both
systems
need
to
work
and
and
I
think
we've
got
a
number
of
different
examples
around
the
campus,
where
we've
dealt
with
very
similar
issues
such
as
the
Broadway
in
College,
underpass
to
Broadway,
new
chlid
underpass
and,
most
recently,
the
baseline
one.
So
I
think
we're
in
alignment
with
that.
O
We
need
to
enhance
both
the
surface
crossings
and
but
I
think
that
this
is
a
rather
key
linkage
and
then
the
other
thing
to
really
highlight
is
one
of
the
things
to
recognize
is
that
these
federal
projects
take
a
long
period
of
time
and
so
as
they
identify
it
in
their
in
their
email.
It's
a
six
point,
eight
million
dollar
project,
of
which
eighty
percent
of
the
dollars
are
actually
federal
dollars,
and
so
our
investment
is
actually
much
smaller
than
that.
O
It's
a
you
know
about
a
million
dollars
of
local
dollars,
and
it
gives
us
some
really
fantastic
improvements.
But,
interestingly,
as
we
submit
for
tip
projects
and
Aaron
and
Matt,
and
the
various
representatives
that
have
been
on
the
various
dr.
cog
board
and
committees,
that
takes
a
long
time.
So
we
actually
went
before
we
submitted
this
particular
project.
We
came
to
Council
and
we
said
what
do
you
think
about
this
particular
underpass,
and
so
in
September
2014.
O
H
That's
another
thing
about
this:
pivot
file,
along
with
the
source
of
funds
like
Matt,
was
talking
about
dedicated
source
of
fencing.
If
the
funding
is
already
there
and
is
a
no-brainer
right,
so
it
definitely
changes
my
view
of
this
situation
if
you've
already
got
it
funded,
but
that's
I,
don't
think
that
information
is
available
to
us
in
this
document.
Yeah.
O
L
All
right,
so
thanks
for
bringing
this
up
I
was
going
to
bring
this
one
up
as
well.
The
letter
did
I
thought
raised
excellent
points.
I
do
support
the
project
and
I
think
the
underpass
will
be
a
real
mobility
enhancer.
So
this
is
really
more
of
a
comment
since
we're
on
this
project,
but
just
I
was
glad
to
hear
you
talking
about
in
improving
the
safety
of
the
surface
travelers
as
well,
because
I
think
that's
that's
critical
I
thought
those
points
were
really
well
taken.
L
So
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
and
I'd
just
encourage
you
to
develop
those
as
much
as
possible
early
as
it
moves
on
and
just
from
being
the
dr.
cog
rep
but
yeah.
If
we,
if
we
canceled
that
project
it
would
go
back,
the
whole
metro
area
would
get
it
we
and
we
would
have
years
to
develop
an
alternative
right.
I
O
O
Contributions
is
in
land
and
the
need,
for
instance,
says
you
visualize,
Broadway
and
Euclid
or
byway
in
college.
A
lot
of
those
things
work
really
well
because
of
the
entrances
to
them,
and
so
they've
dedicated
a
lot
of
land
to
those
types
of
improvements,
and
so
that's
another
kind
of
in-kind
thing
that
they
have
done
as
part
of
the
projects.
O
I
O
Key
element
of
one
of
the
things
that
we're
tracking
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
people
are
going
and
where
to
provide
these
types
of
facilities
in
and
as
we
plan
with
the
various
schools.
That's
a
key
component
so,
for
instance,
on
19th
Street
in
the
Four
Mile.
That
underpass
there
on
19,000
of
crestview
was,
is
an
element
to
the
safe
routes
to
school
and.
H
M
O
N
O
O
We're
really
trying
to
look
at
the
network
comprehensively
and
in
Garrett
I'm,
losing
the
term
that
we're
using
the
low-stress
network
analysis
and
so
as
part
of
that
I
think
we're
gonna
identify
and
we've
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
from
folks
of
trying
to
provide
a
much
better
connection
north
south,
especially
through
the
core
of
the
of
this
city
and
so
I,
think
that'll
be
it'll,
come
out
of
that
process
and
then
we'll
get
identified
in
the
CIP
and
then
we'll
go
to
work
on
them.
Okay,.
H
O
H
O
O
So
we
have,
we
have
a
system
which
is
pay.
My
management
system,
which
is
it's
a
methodology,
lead
based
system
to
evaluate
the
the
condition
of
the
streets
and
make
recommendations
on
where
to
invest.
And
so
that's
we
have
a
target
of
where
we
would
like
the
streets
to
be
at
and
we're
shooting
for
that
target
and
we're
we're
about
four
of
five
years
into
our
current
program.
And
we.
J
I
think
I'm
to
add
to
what
Mike
was
just
saying
it.
So
it's
only
been
in
the
last
three
or
four
years
that
the
city
has
been
really
formally
proactively
investing
and
the
pavement
assets
throughout
the
entire
300
mile
street
network,
and
so
before
it
was
largely
reactive.
It
looks
like
we
got
a
problem
here,
let's
jump
on
it,
there's
a
problem.
Let's
jump
on
that.
One
right
sort
of
the
whack-a-mole
approach
wasn't
bring
being
very
effective
to
managing
the
this
massive
billion-dollar
asset
that
the
city
has
right.
J
So
we
now
have
this
formal
payment
management
program
that
where
every
year
we
survey
the
condition
of
the
assets
of
the
city
and
we
assign
a
condition
number
to
each
street
and
that
helps
us
to
as
Mike
was
indicating
to
determine
where
we
are
going
to
prioritize
our
investments
each
year,
and
so
overall
we
call
it
a
no
CI
and
overall
condition
index.
Our
goal
is
for
the
average
of
all
the
city
streets
to
be
75
or
better.
We
were
able
to
keep
it
at
75
up
until
at
this
last
year.
J
H
J
For
the
next
ten
years,
we're
going
to
fall
behind
because
construction
cost
indexes
are
going
up
anywhere
from
eight
to
twelve
percent
a
year
on
average
ten
percent
a
year,
and
so
just
due
to
the
the
time
value
of
money,
we're
going
to
fall
behind.
So,
ideally
at
some
point,
there's
going
to
be
an
increase
in
allocation
for
us
to
be
able
to
maintain
those
assets.
J
What
we
think
the
system
needs
and,
as
you
know,
every
single
year
we
go
through
and
we
prioritize
what
the
needs
of
the
system
are.
So
as
we
get
more
data
coming
in
this
year,
it's
very
well
possible
that
we'll
take
a
look
at
the
system
and
say
that
we
need
to
increase
that
four
million
dollars
a
year
in
order
to
make
sure
we're
not
falling
behind.
E
H
M
O
The
street
maintenance
ongoing
operating
budget
is
approximately
three
million
dollars
a
year
so
and
so
that
would
cover
the
routine,
the
other
routine
aspects
such
as
pothole
patching
and
some
of
the
smaller
patching
and
those
types
of
activities.
So
it's
not
just
the
four
million
but
there's
other
resources
that
are
dedicated
to
Street
maintenance
and.
O
O
H
P
Jeff
Arthur
Director
of
Public
Works
for
utilities.
Yes,
so
we
had
funding
slated
for
this
year
for
the
design
we've
been
working
through
the
process
so
that
hasn't
moved
forward.
We
so
that
money
will
roll
over
and
continue
next
year
for
the
design
and
then
we've
moved.
It
would
be
a
bond
project.
So
we've
moved
that
out
another
year
to
have
time
to
get
through
the
design
and
that.
P
H
I'll,
look
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
Thank
you
very
much
that
is
I
had
an
interesting
conversation
with
Kurt
today
about
middle-income
housing,
and
he
told
me
that
he
had
some
opportunities
for
to
acquire
some
middle-income
housing,
but
he
has
no
budget
and
the
budget
he
has
evidently
is
only
able
to
be
used
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
that
got
me
thinking.
H
C
R
H
R
R
R
If
you
wanted
to
make
it
more
well,
then
it
has
to
come
either
out
of
those
capital
projects
or
out
of
the
operating
budget,
because
so
much
of
our
funding
is,
by
my
view,
unfortunately
earmarked
that
you
know
the
general
fund
is
constrained
as
far
as
capital
goes
most
of
it
I
mean
almost
all
of
it
goes
to
operating
right.
It
pays
for
the
basic
city
services
like
police
and
fire,
and
everything
else,
though
it
comes
out
of
the
general
fund,
see
alright
to
take
money
away
from
that.
Could
council
have
that
conversation?
A
H
H
F
U
Joe
Castro
facilities
and
fleet
management.
So
that's
that's
the
CIP
that
we
we
put
in
every
year
for
different
projects
that
seem
to
always
come
up
about
80,000
a
years.
What
we
put
in,
for
example,
for
next
year,
we're
gonna
need
to
do
a
space
needs
analysis
for
city
facilities
projected
to
go
into
the
Alpine
balsam
area
and
also
what
will
go
into
the
east
booked
in.
U
C
If
I
could
just
Jan
back
to
your
first,
your
comment
about
the
critical
needs
and
seeing
all
of
the
projects
listed
in
different
ways
and
I
realize
this
is
a
long
document
and
hard
to
find
all
the
different
things
we
did
take
all
of
the
prioritization
and
guiding
principles.
Information
that
in
the
past
had
been
provided
in
each
of
the
department
overviews
and
put
it
in
one
section
so
that
we
could
look
at
all
of
the
prioritization
of
each
of
the
different
funds.
C
Each
of
the
different
services
in
one
section,
it's
kind
of
toward
the
end
starting
on
page
I,
think
it's
around
267.
If
it's,
if
we
have
the
same
version
and
that
really
outlines
how
each
of
the
departments
approach
their
prioritization
on
these
projects,
balancing
the
critical
needs
and
the
critical
maintenance,
along
with
trying
to
make
sure
that
more
opportune,
opportunistic
with
other
projects
leveraging
other
funds
and
balancing
that
needs.
C
L
Mind
if
I
come
in
on
that
I'd
just
like
to
support
that
request
and
just
further
that
the
individual
sheets,
they
do
take
a
long
time
to
go
through
and
they're,
not
the
most
user
friendly
to
counsel
or
to
the
public,
and
so
there's
the
intros.
They
all
right,
which
are
helpful
and
then
the
one
spreadsheet
of
the
dollar
amounts,
but
some
something
intermediate
where
it's
not
just
one
line
per
project
and
it's
not
a
one
kind
of
page
bureaucratic
sheet.
L
That
would
give
some
summary
information,
particularly
for
doing
projects
of
Community
Interest,
larger
dollar
amounts,
so
I'd
put
in
a
plug
for
that
and
the
other
one
being
met.
I
think
it's
formatted
for
print,
which
is
why
all
the
tables
are
rotated.
I,
think
the
percentage
of
people
who
will
read
it
in
print
is
quite
small.
So
that's
something
to
think
about
for
future
years
is
really
the
format
or
for
reading
on
a
screen,
because
I
think
that's
the
way
the
vast
majority
of
people
will
interact
with.
R
It
so
I
went
quick,
follow
up,
Jenna
I
mean
I,
understand
your
question
and
I
think
you're
you're
on
track,
but-
and
this
I
think
always
makes
us
a
little
crazy,
but
it's
it's
just
the
way
it
has
to
be
I.
Guess
the
capital
budget
I
just
took
a
quick
look,
because
I
was
curious
for
2018,
so
the
first
year
this
kicks
in
and
it's
some
big
number
hundred,
twenty-one
million
dollars,
of
which
almost
a
hundred
million
dollars
is
utilities.
R
From
the
standpoint
of
we
need
to
make
sure
that
projects
are
the
right
ones,
but
from
the
standpoint
of
funding
that
is
kind
of
part
of
what
most
people
consider
the
city,
because
utilities
is
their
enterprise
fund,
looking
at
twenty
five
million
dollars,
which
isn't
a
lot
of
money
for
a
city
our
size
and
with
the
budget
that
we
have
and
then,
of
course
we
have
the
dedicated
funds
and
they
make
up
most
of
that
twenty
five
million
dollars.
I,
don't
actually
think
the
point.
R
F
There's
definitely
a
way
that
we
can
display
more
productive
conversation
manner
and
to
be
clear,
there
is
no
general
fund
capital
plan
right
now.
So
all
of
these
are
trade
offs
between
restricted
funds
that
you
would
then
be
talking
about
once
you
take
out
kind
of
run,
run
of
the
course
type
of
operation,
so
just
to
keep
that
in
mind,
because
we
haven't
formally
completed
a
plan
or
developed
anything
which
you'll
see
an
initial
starting
September
12th.
But
right
now
you
might
be
surprised,
I'm
kind
of
what
is
that
over.
A
There
any
other
questions
folks,
all
right
so
does
that.
Take
us
then,
to
the
two
questions
posed
on
the
on
the
screen
here.
The
first
is
just
the
consistency
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
city,
including
the
comp
plan
and
sustainability
framework.
My
sense
is
everybody
agrees
that
that
the
CIP
is
consistent
with
that.
That's
the.
R
Beginning
I
think
the
CIP
should
show
the
things
that
we're
gonna
do
regardless
and
I
think
it
includes.
Frankly,
the
the
radio
infrastructure
I
suspect
it
includes
some
form
of
the
North
Pole's
Library
branch,
I
suspect
that
includes
finishing
the
forum,
Ella
Canyon,
Creek
and
I.
Think
in
the
CIP,
because
I
think
that's
an
accurate
portrayal
of
what
we
would
do
as
a
city
over
the
next
five
years.
We'd
find
a
way
to
do
those,
and
then
the
question
is
what's
next
in
the
priority
list
and
that's
which
you
might
ask
the
voters
for
now.
R
One
big
thing
is,
of
course,
the
fire
station
that
don't
get
me
wrong
about
that
when
you
get
the
numbers
that
big,
you
probably
have
to
go
to
the
voters,
because
it's
just
really
hard
for
the
general
fund
to
handle
something.
That
is
that
gigantic,
but
I
I.
Think
if
you
really
wanted
to
be
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies,
those
things
would
be
in
the
CIP.
So.
A
R
Done
I
think
a
council
would
be
policies
if
we
didn't
find
a
way
to
fund
those
things
we
just
have
to
fund
them.
So
what
wouldn't
get
done?
Okay,
well,
the
fire
station
wouldn't
get
done
because
I
don't
think
council
could
find
a
way
to
come
up
with
that
much
money
frankly,
so
some
wouldn't
and
I
think
we
need
to
straighten
that
out
and
then
figure
out
which
things
are
the
next
and
the
hierarchy,
but
I
mean
I,
think
they
have
a
handle
on
that.
R
It's
just
a
matter
of
you
know
understanding
how
those
things
were
kind
of
ranked
in
a
sense
the
things
that
are
currently
in
there
and
maybe
some
other
things
would
be
very
hard
to
get
done
again.
The
things
coming
out
of
the
general
fund,
because
the
general
fund
is
kind
of
constrained
and
it
might
be
well
if
you
really
wanted
to
get
it
done,
you'd
have
to
cut
some
operating
dollars.
Okay!
Well,
that's
a
good
council
conversation
I
mean
that's
worthy
of
a
conversation
that
we
haven't
had.
M
M
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
speculation
there,
because
we've
had
the
North
Boulder
Library
come
out
on
the
talking
docket
in
the
city
for
30
years,
and
it's
never
gotten
done.
So
you
know
within
the
priorities
that
other
councils
have
established
and
and
worked
to.
There
are
some
things
that
have
been
historically
been
different,
called
the
fire
department.
Of
course,
the
booming
of
fire
station.
M
Three
is
one
because
it's
so
expensive
within
the
general
fund,
but
you
look
down
this
list
of
unfunded
liabilities
and
even
if
you
prioritize
everything
that
would
still
be
a
lot
of
things
that
you
know
could
be
left
off
and
I,
don't
know
if
the
CIP
ranks
things
in
exactly
that
way.
In
other
words,
if
we
threw
everything
in
the
CIP
is
there
some
stuff
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
in
there?
That
could
also
want
to
be
in
the
you
know,
taxes
that
we
take
out
to
the
voters.
M
The
example
that
would
be
the
Civic
area
plan.
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
that
was
camera,
but
I
don't
know.
There
was
a
CIP
item
that
we
were
teed
up
and
waiting
to
do.
I
think
it
was
something
that
we
said:
let's
take
you
to
the
voters
and
see
if
they
would
like
to
you
know
prioritize
this
so
I
think
there's
give-and-take
between
the
CIP
and
just
kind
of
tax
and
I
think
we
should
be
look
carefully.
L
I
think
Sam's
points
are
well-taken,
I,
think
Matt.
The
points
that
you
raised
are
really
interesting
and
I.
Think
I,
like
updated
information
on
them,
I'm
comfortable
with
in
the
CIP,
with
maybe
handling
this
with
the
page
in
the
intro,
for
example,
like
here
capital
tap,
proposed
capital
tax.
You
know
we
are
hoping
to
fund
the
following
projects
in
the
following
amounts.
L
R
That
just
makes
sense
to
me
and
we
don't
have
ballot
issues
every
year.
We
are.
This
is
kind
of
a
new
thing
that
we're
doing
this
every
few
years,
so
CIP
really
should
represent
the
top
priorities
of
the
city
and
usually
has
it's
a
little
odd
to
me,
actually
that
it
doesn't
represent
the
top
priorities,
because
it
assumes
that
something
will
pass
and
it'll
take
care
of
it.
So
yeah
I
think
a
few
of
these.
We
find
a
way
to
do
and
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
ask
folks
and
the
answers
seem
to
be.
R
F
I
could
jump
in
for
just
a
few
different
comments
just
to
clarify.
So.
First
of
all,
this
is
a
draft
CIP,
so
we
can
always
add
things
back
in
as
we
get
more
information.
The
second
piece
is
really
around
the
timing
of
when
we
do
CIP
and
operating
in
the
challenge
that
it
presents
when
we
start
to
talk
about
general
fund
capital,
so
I
councilmember,
Applebaum,
two
of
those
projects,
the
library
and
REO
infrastructure,
or
truly
join
all
fun
capital
projects.
F
And
yet
we
don't
talk
about
that
until
September
12
and
we're
really
looking
at
the
process
of
how
we're
presenting
our
budget
and
dividing
up
this
lack
of
almost
a
month
between
when
you
see
the
CIP
you
when
you
see
operating
and
hopefully
adjusting
that
moving
forward
next
year.
Do
you
think
if
there
is
some
general
fund
capital
dollars
that
we
decide
to
put
in
the
plan,
come
September
12th
and
during
the
public
hearings
that
would
be
incorporated
in
the
final
CIP
document
with
those
additions?
F
So
it
really
does
represent
the
whole
being
because
we,
you
made
a
statement
that
we're
planning
like
it
does
pass
and
that's
absolutely
not
the
case.
We
anticipate
that
or
we
like
to
plan
that
it
doesn't
what
kind
of
worst-case
scenario
and
have
contingencies
to
add
back
a
nice-to-have
project.
So
in
just
a
few
clarification
pieces.
A
B
If
you
don't
mind,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
with
gene
knowing
we're
moving
forward
with
second
reading
on
the
capital
tax
renewal
in
a
week.
Do
you
feel
you
have
what
you
need
to
prepare
that
memo
it's
to
be
released
later
this
week?
Given
this
conversation,
we
just
had
relative
to
the
capital
budget,
so.