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Let
folks
know
that
we
are
live
on
on
channel
8.
whenever
we're
ready
to
begin.
Mr
mayo
I'll
begin
recording
whenever
we're
ready.
G
G
No
worries,
nicole
glad
to
have
you
here
with
us.
All
right.
Well
looks
like
we
got
everybody
here,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
capitalize
to
a
start.
Here,
we're
going
to
begin
march,
we're
beginning
the
march
1st
2022
meeting
of
the
boulder
city
council.
I'm
going
to
kick
it
off
here
with
a
few
announcements,
so
to
start
covet,
19
for
testing
for
information
and
provider
locations
for
free
code,
19
testing,
you
can
go
to
www.boco.org
covet
testing
and
the
boulder
site
for
that
open
seven
days
a
week.
G
G
Next,
let's
talk
about
boards
and
commissions,
we
have
closed
the
annual
recruitment
period
for
most
boards,
but
there
are
still
a
few
that
have
not
received
sufficient
applications,
so
we
still
are
keeping
those
open.
So
those
boards
are
the
boulder
junction
access
district.
Both
parking
and
travel
demand
management,
as
well
as
the
board
of
zoning
adjustment,
the
design
advisory
board
and
the
university
hill
commercial
area
management
commission.
G
G
And
finally,
an
announcement
about
price
gouging
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knows
that
colorado
law
prohibits
charging
excessive
prices
for
certain
essential
products,
goods
or
services
during
a
disaster
period.
It
makes
clear
that
such
price
gouging
is
a
deceptive
trade
practice
under
the
colorado
consumer
protection
act.
Coloradans
who
witness
price
gouging
or
who
think
they
might
be
a
victim
of
price
gouging,
should
file
a
report
with
the
attorney
general's
office
at
800-222.
O
P
K
Q
D
Q
B
G
Thank
you
alicia,
so
I
would
now
request
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
add
item
1a,
a
statement
of
solidarity
and
support
for
the
people
of
ukraine.
J
G
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
statement
here
and
then
I'll
give
my
colleagues
an
opportunity
to
add
something
as
well
if
they
would
like
so
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
tonight
about
the
events
unfolding
in
ukraine.
Well,
the
specifics
are
rapidly
evolving.
What
we
know
is
that
we're
witnessing
a
humanitarian
crisis
that
not
only
threatens
european
stability,
but
the
world
order
that
we
rely
on
to
ensure
peace,
russia's
entirely
unjustified
invasion
of
the
nation
of
ukraine
and
the
horrors
that
such
violence
is
inflicting
on.
G
The
ukrainian
people
should
be
vigorously
and
unequivocally
condemned
by
all.
I
personally
am
outraged
by
these
actions
and
support
the
efforts
of
the
international
community
to
impose
serious
and
significant
sanctions
on
russia.
I
hope
they
will
cause
them
to
revisit
the
rash
decision
and
quickly
withdraw
their
forces
and
show
the
international
community
that
such
aggression
will
not
be
tolerated
in
the
ukraine
or
anywhere
else
in
the
world.
G
P
Thanks
erin,
I
won't
eat
up
a
lot
of
time.
Adding
to
that
that
was
well
said.
I
just
want
to
say
I
support
what
you
said
and
the
city
of
boulder
supports
what
you
have
said
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
have
unanimity
among
our
among
our
colleagues
in
supporting
your
statement.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
yeah
aaron.
I
just
I
want
to
support
also
everything
that
you
said,
and
I
want
to
also
just
acknowledge
the
weight
of
this
war
on
all
of
us,
but
particularly
on
the
russians,
ukrainians
and
europeans
in
our
community
and
on
all
those
who
fled
war
or
lived
under
occupation
in
any
area
of
the
world.
We
don't
know
how
this
war
is
going
to
end,
but
we
know
its
trauma
will
last
for
generations.
M
I
hope
everyone
in
the
community
recognizes
the
stress
that
we're
all
experiencing
in
this
latest
moment
of
global
uncertainty,
and
I
hope
we
can
give
each
other
grace
in
the
coming
weeks
and
recognize
that
we're
all
doing
the
best
we
can
given
what
the
world
is
giving
us
right
now,
thanks.
Thank
you,
nicole,.
S
Well,
it
was
all
quite
eloquent
from
from
aaron
and
rachel
and
nicole,
so
I
can't
top
that.
I
completely
agree
with,
what's
been
said
already
and,
and
while
this
council
does
not
typically
weigh
in
on
foreign
policy
matters,
I
think
that
we
can
all
stand
together
in
solidarity
with
the
people
of
of
ukraine
and
others
that
are
suffering
during
this
terrible
time
and
hope
and
pray
that
the
conflict
will
end
soon
and
that
lives
will
be
spared
and
that
peace
will
return.
A
Aaron,
I
thought
your
statement
was
absolutely
spot
on.
I
thought
you
hit
every
issue.
It
was
very
eloquently
stated.
I
stand
in
full
support
of
it
and
I
thank
you
for
doing
that.
A
In
my
lifetime.
This
is
probably
the
most
serious
event
since
the
cuban
missile
crisis
with
the
potential
for
horrible
outcomes,
and
I
am
pleased
that
this
community
is
standing
with
the
ukrainian
people
and
opposing
the
kinds
of
oppression
that
is
that
are
being
visited
upon
them.
So
thank
you
for
that
aaron.
I
thought
it
was
a
beautiful
statement.
N
B
I
assume
that
so
many
of
us
here
in
boulder
wake
up
like
I
do.
We
open
up
our
phone
and
we
hope
against
hope
that
things
have
changed,
that
putin
reverses
course
that
things
go
back
to
peace,
and
my
heart
is
with
the
people
of
ukraine
as
well.
As
I
know,
all
of
ours
are,
and
I
I'm
so
glad
that
we're
standing
in
solidarity
as
a
city
right
now.
C
Well,
I
think
everything
that's
been
said
is
in
exactly
the
right
thing
to
be
said
in
the
moment,
we're
in
I
in
interestingly,
reflecting
I'm.
I
was
my
son's
age
at
six
when
I
remember
watching
the
berlin
wall
come
down,
so
I
just
interesting
that
those
are
it's
a
generation
and
yet
there's
another
massive
event
coming
down.
C
I
will
say
that
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
prepared
and
going
to
be
in
a
position
to
welcome
any
refugees
that
have
been
displaced
from
the
war
in
ukraine
and
that
we
would
be
ready,
willing
and
able
to
welcome
them
with
open
arms
with
food
with
love
into
our
community.
Should
the
opportunity
arise,
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
prepared
for
that.
Should
that
time
come
and
it
might
be
coming
sooner
rather
than
later.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
brockett.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
express
ourselves
on
this
situation.
I
think
similar
to
bob.
You
know
just
seeing
what's
going
on
around
the
world,
it's
it's
just
it's
just
very
shocking.
It
doesn't
make
us
feel
safe
in
the
world
and
again
I
think,
like
my
colleague
bob
said,
you
know,
I
just
pray
for
peace
as
well,
so
I
think
that
was
well
said
by
bob.
Thank
you
so
much.
N
G
T
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mary
mayor
brockett,
and
thank
you
city,
council
members
for
the
opportunity,
just
as
a
housekeeping
matter,
I'm
wondering
if
one
of
the
city
staff
is
planning
to
run
the
powerpoint
for
me
or,
if
you'd
like
me,
to
share
my
screen.
Oh
she's,
starting
it,
okay,
perfect
all
right!
Thank
you
emily
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
T
T
So
this
is
just
for
context.
This
is
the
trial
court
structure
in
colorado.
Every
judicial
district
has
district
courts
which
handle
high
level
cases,
county
courts
and
then
also
many
of
them
have
municipal
courts.
The
district
courts
and
the
county
courts
are
funded
by
the
state.
Municipal
courts
are
funded
by
their
municipalities.
T
As
you
can
see,
there
is
some
overlap
between
county
courts
and
municipal
courts
in
terms
of
the
types
of
cases
that
they
adjudicate
in
the
city
of
boulder.
The
boulder
police,
department
and
cupd
are
instructed
to
write
cases
into
our
court
as
opposed
to
the
counter
county
court.
If
we
have
a
violation
that
covers
that
behavior
next
slide,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
this
slide
in
detail.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
this
slide
illustrates
the
traditional
long-standing
role
of
municipal
courts
in
their
communities.
T
And
so
this
is
the
role
of
the
boulder
municipal
court.
We
do
perform
all
of
the
traditional
municipal
court
functions.
However,
we
do
a
lot
more
than
that.
We
have
some
law
violations
that
were
crafted
to
address
specific
behaviors
in
our
city,
for
instance,
nuisance
party
and
camping
ordinances.
They
may
not
be
unique
to
boulder,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
ordinances,
that
you
find
in
most
other
colorado
municipalities.
T
Not
only
do
our
laws
reflect
our
local
community
values
in
terms
of
the
types
of
cases
we
adjudicate,
our
practices
in
court
also
reflect
our
local
community
values.
These
values
dictate
that
we
take
a
problem-solving
approach
and
that
we
try
to
get
at
the
underlying
issues
that
lead
to
a
violation
rather
than
a
strictly
punitive
approach.
T
We
also
pride
ourselves
on
being
innovative,
collaborative
and
evidence-based.
This
is
not
a
given
in
all
courts,
so
I
I
do
like
to
call
that
out.
We
have
many
collaborations
that
we
have
fostered
and
maintained
over
time.
Just
a
couple
of
examples
would
be
our
stakeholders
at
cu,
as
well
as
among
homeless
service
providers.
T
I
did
include
a
pre-pandemic
comparison
from
the
year
2016
that
I
just
happen
to
have
that
data
really
readily
available.
So
it's
not
a
perfect
pre-covered
comparison
to
2021,
but
it
just
it
does
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
sense
and
with
that
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
T
So
now
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
community
court
initiative
and,
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
these
are
the
high
level
details
of
the
community
court,
grant
award
the
grantor
the
target
population
and
how
we
intend
to
use
the
funds
as
well
as
the
period
of
the
grant.
So
under
the
current
scenario,
the
grant
is
due
to
expire
at
the
end
of
september
of
this
year.
Next
slide.
T
Specifically,
I
have
to
tell
you
that
we
have
so
many
partners
helping
us
to
implement,
but
I
have
to
call
out
one
person
in
particular
and
that's
devon,
kissing
kelly,
our
deputy
court
administrator,
whose
efforts
have
been
invaluable
to
me
and
our
community
partners
in
implementing
this
initiative
next
slide.
T
So
these
are
the
goals
of
the
community
court
again
I'll.
Let
you
read
those
for
yourselves
and
not
give
a
lot
of
comment
on
those
next
slide,
and
these
are
the
types
of
cases.
So
what
I
want
to
make
clear
is
these
are
the
violations
we
most
commonly
see
among
the
unhoused
population
in
the
boulder
municipal
court
and
that
are
eligible
for
community
court.
We
do
not
handle
more
serious
violations,
such
as
drug
violations,
thefts
and
so
forth,
and
therefore
those
cases
would
not
be
handled
in
community
court.
T
So
I
want
to
make
it
really
clear:
the
the
types
of
violations
are
very
low
level
next
slide
and
emily.
If
you
would
just
play
about
the
first
20
seconds
of
this
video,
I
just
want
to
give
the
council
a
visual
of
what
it
looks
like
when
we're
out
in
the
community
conducting
community
court
from
remote
sites.
T
V
T
Thank
you
emily.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
what
you're?
Seeing
there
is
the
prosecutor,
several
court
staff?
They
are
out
in
the
community
at
places
where
the
unhoused
are
gathering,
because
there
are
resources
at
those
sites
and
they
set
up
their
their
surface
and
they
have
an
internet
connection.
I'm
back
in
the
courthouse
and
I'm
on
my
computer
and
we're
conducting
court
that
way,
and
if
these
are
the
strategies
that
we're
using
for
community
court
participants,
I've
described
the
pop-up
model.
T
What
we
do
is
we
use
the
fact
that
they
received
a
citation
for
one
of
these
types
of
violations.
That
was
in
a
previous
slide
as
an
opportunity
to
engage
them
most
of
the
time
people
are
able
to
earn
dismissal
of
their
charges
by
completing
one
of
the
sanctions
and
the
the
same
sample.
Sanctions
are
listed
there,
but
you
can
see
they're
really
aimed
at
helping
to
resolve
a
person's
unhoused
status
and
those
are
pretty
generic
options.
T
We
can
get
very
specific
with
people,
especially
if
they
have
checked
off
a
lot
of
those.
We
can
get
much
more
creative
and
come
up
with
other
things
that
they
can
do
in
order
to
to
earn
dismissal
of
their
case
next
slide.
T
T
This
shows
that
we
started
in
january
just
a
few
months
after
the
grant
itself
began.
We
had
we
began
using
our
transitional
housing
for
our
community
court
clients.
In
february
we
began
small
case
management
forms
with
providers,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
different
ones.
T
We
aspire
to
have
a
large
case
management
forum
where
all
of
the
providers
are
participating,
but
that
really
in
other
communities
that
are
doing
that
they're
doing
it
at
a
time
when
they're
also
attending
community
court
as
service
providers,
and
so
we
already
have
them
gathered,
and
we
can
do
those
that
case
management.
As
part
of
a
larger
group,
we
began
onboarding
our
substance
use
treatment
provider
in
july
and
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
emily
we
can
see
what's
happened
since
then
we
have
convened
a
homeless
advisory
council.
T
This
was
an
idea
from
austin
where
they
have
a
homeless
advisory
council.
Having
people
with
lived
experience
is
really
important
in
terms
of
helping
us
build
out
the
model
of
the
community
court
and
understanding
what
is
going
to
work
for
that
population
and
what
will
not?
Our
substance?
Use
provider
began.
Delivering
services
he's
doing
it
on
a
pop-up
basis
as
well.
T
He
attends
all
of
the
pop-up
community
court
sessions,
as
well
as
our
court
session
on
tuesday
mornings
in
the
courthouse,
although
he
doesn't
get
a
lot
of
business
at
those
sessions,
but
he
also
has
you
know
one
of
those
easy
ups.
I
call
them
the
the
ten
by
tens
that
he
can
set
up
with
walls
and
he
can
set
that
up
actually
whenever
he
wants
and
have
conducted
his
actual
substance
abuse
treatment
sessions
with
this
population
out
there
in
the
community,
wherever
he
has
set
up
his
tent.
T
We
we
added
two
more
sessions
per
month
back
in
october,
so
we
went
from
two
to
four
sessions
a
month,
so
right
on
average
there
once
a
week
every
once
in
a
while.
We
have
a
week
with
none
in
a
week
with
two,
but
it
was
really
nice
that
we
had
the
that
that
need
was
identified
and
the
prosecution
and
jen
livovich
from
feet
forward.
Who
runs
that
central
park
session
asked.
T
If
we
would
do
that,
and
just
recently
we
identified
our
mental
health
treatment
provider
and
so
we'll
be
on
boarding
that,
in
the
very
near
future,
in
a
very
similar
way
to
work.
The
way
we're
doing
substance,
use
treatment
and
a
very
cool
thing
is
that
several
of
our
court
staff,
as
well
as
the
homeless,
outreach
team
and
officers
and
their
sergeant
visited
the
community
court
in
austin
in
early
february,
and
I
have
to
tell
you
they
set
up
austin,
set
up
an
amazing
agenda
for
them.
T
They
were
busy
from
eight
to
five
for
two
straight
days.
They
were
told
it
was
like
drinking
from
a
fire
hose,
but
they
were
also
incredibly
inspired
by
everything
that
austin's
done
over
the
last
20
years.
Basically,
it's
transformed
to
the
point
where
their
community
court
is
a
homeless
services
agency.
First,
with
the
ability
to
resolve
court
cases
as
well.
T
We
do
hope
that
we'll
have
pete
valdez
the
austin
community
court
court
administrator
visit
us
later
in
the
year
and
provide
us
some
real,
hands-on
additional
technical
assistance.
So
any
of
you
are
interested
when
he's
visiting
we'd
be
happy
to
arrange
for
you
to
be
able
to
meet
him
as
well.
Next
slide.
T
T
Some
of
our
municipal
court
colleagues
around
the
state
are
trying
to
take
a
similar
approach
in
terms
of
having
a
a
few
service
providers
at
court.
So
they
can
link
on
house
with
those
providers,
but
their
their
ability
to
connect
with
people
is
very,
very
limited
because
people
have
to
walk
through
that
courthouse
door,
which
is
a
very
high
barrier
for
many
of
them
and
so,
for
instance,
one
of
our
other
denver
metro
region
cities.
T
T
So
the
next
slide
is
a
really
high
level
data
about
who
we
have
served
over
the
first
five
quarters.
So
this
takes
us
through
december
31st.
I
have
much
more
specific
data.
So
if
you
wanted
to
know
things
like
how
many
people
did,
we
helped
get
ids
or
social
security
cards
or
whatever?
We
could
do
that,
but
I
just
kept
it
very
high
level.
T
Treating
people
in
a
community
court
type
way
was,
I'm
sure
less
than
10,
and
even
the
young
adults
that
we
see
in
fairly
large
numbers
in
our
court
with
quality
of
life
violations.
Don't
have
a
90
completion
rate,
certainly
not
on
the
first
go
around.
So
that
is
really
due
a
lot
to
the
fact
that
we
have
the
ability
to
assist
people
in
completing
assignments
on
the
day
of
court
for
a
lot
of
the
types
of
assignments.
T
Our
court
records
management
system
is
not
developed
to
be
a
human
services
management
case
management
system.
So
it's
not
it's
pretty
ill
suited
to
that.
T
However,
we're
hoping
to
reallocate
or
repurpose
some
grant
funds
to
to
bring
on
board
one
of
those
types
of
systems
so
that
we
can
have
a
really
integrated
database
of
the
folks
that
we're
serving
one
of
the
big
grant
limitations
that
we've
run
up
against
more
recently
is
that
they
prohibit
providing
grant
funded
services
to
participants
with
certain
types
of
criminal
charges
in
their
past.
T
So
violent
offenders
and
the
there's
a
very
specific
definition
that's
used
for
that,
but
it
can
preclude
even
somebody
who
is
charged
with
a
violent
offense,
even
if
it
doesn't
result
in
a
conviction
and
the
only
way
to
find
out
if
the
particular
violation
that
the
person
had
in
their
past
qualifies
under
the
grant
or
not
is
to
actually
get
the
police
report
and
delve
into
the
facts.
So
that's
it's
very
arduous
to
try
to
even
figure
that
out.
T
Fortunately,
at
least
for
substance
use
and
mental
health
treatment,
this
won't
apply
to
the
transitional
housing,
but
for
substance
use
and
mental
health
treatment.
If
the
person
is
medicaid
eligible,
we
can
probably
provide
them
that
service
accessing
that
benefit.
T
We
also
lack
a
physical
site,
which
we
still
hope
to
have
at
some
point
in
the
future,
where
we
can
gather
a
large
number
of
service
providers
there
for
people
during
the
court
sessions
and
that
would
be
open
to
anybody
experiencing
homelessness,
not
just
the
people
who
have
court
cases,
and
that
would
then
also
allow
us
to
have
that
large
coordinating
forum
for
coordinating
case
management
among
the
different
service
providers
and
then
next
slide.
I
was
hoping
with
this
next
slide
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
sharing
a
few
individual
stories.
T
So
if
you'll
indulge
me
I'll,
keep
it
really
brief,
and
one
is
a
couple
that
these
are
not
their
real
names
by
the
way
for
privacy
reasons,
but
ann
and
carl
were
referred
to
us
by
the
homeless.
Outreach
team
officers
they've
been
living
outdoors
in
a
tent
moving
around.
T
T
Our
court
homeless
navigators
were
the
first
ones
to
do
the
housing
assessment,
so
they
put
them
into
the
list
for
housing
in
the
denver
metro
region
and
help
them
collect
the
documentation
that
they
would
need
once
they
were
matched
with
the
housing
resource
and
because
of
their
vulnerabilities.
They
were
matched
pretty
quickly.
T
We
then
put
them
in
bridge
housing
or
transitional
housing
once
they
were
assigned
to
a
housing
resource,
so
they
could
stay
there
until
they
were
able
to
find
an
apartment
where
they
could
use
their
voucher.
They
have
now
been
in
that
home
for
a
year.
We
still
check
in
on
them
periodically,
but
they're
doing
really
well.
T
A
second
gentleman
who
we're
calling
chris
chris
had
many
many
infractions
over
50
for
charges
like
camping,
an
open
container
in
boulder
over
a
course
of
about
15
years.
He
agreed
to
work
with
us
towards
housing.
So
again,
they
got
him
into
the
onto
the
regional
list,
for
housing,
helped
him
get
his
documentation
together
and
when
he
eventually
was
assigned
a
housing
resource,
they
helped
move
him
in
and
are,
and
we
do
provide
follow-up
check-ins
with
people.
T
That's
not
really
part
of
our
job,
but
we
do
that
because
we
know
that
people
can
quickly
destabilize
in
housing
if
we're
not
helping
support
them.
After
moving
into
his
apartment,
chris
got
sober,
he's
reconnected
with
his
family.
T
He
now
participates
in
our
advisory
council
and
he
enjoys
spending
his
free
time,
babysitting
his
grandkids
and
then
finally,
martha
martha
had
recently
gotten
sober
when
we
encountered
her,
which
was
an
amazing
thing
for
her
to
do
on
her
own
living
on
the
streets
and
camping.
T
T
She
is
spending
a
lot
of
her
time,
volunteering
with
feet
forward
and
she's
also
a
participant
on
our
homeless
advisory
council.
So
these
are,
these
are
just
some
of
the
stories
and
helps
you
understand,
kind
of
the
our
end
game
and
and
what
we
can
hope
to
accomplish,
with
the
supports
that
we
provide
and
next
slide.
S
Thank
you
judge
that
was
extremely
helpful
and
always
delighted
to
have
you
present
to
council
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
talk
about
all
the
very
cool
and
innovative
work
that
you're
doing
like
it's.
A
couple
of
questions
judge
cook
one
you
mentioned
you
had
some
amazing
statistics
about
the
completion
rate
for
tasks
and
sanctions.
Can
you
give
us
some
examples
of
some
of
the
some
of
the
sanctions
or
tasks
that
that
are
assigned
to
these
individuals.
T
So
some
of
the
some
of
the
ones
that
are
relatively
easy
to
complete
are
applying
for
a
replacement
id
applying
for
a
social
security
card
applying
for
snap
or
medicaid.
Those
are
all
things
that
can
be
done
online
thanks
to
covet
that
we
used
to
have
to
send
people
to
the
local
offices
to
do
that.
So
that's
actually
been
a
benefit
for
us,
but
once
somebody
is
matched
with
the
housing
resource.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
is
we're
taking
them
to
on
different
meetings
that
they
need
to
go
to.
T
So
they
need
to
do
a
voucher
briefing
before
they
actually
get
their
voucher
and
that's
with
whoever
the
provider
is
oftentimes.
It's
boulder
housing
partners,
but
it
could
be
somebody
else.
They
then
need
to
find
a
place
where
they
can
use
that
voucher
and
sometimes
they
have
supports
from,
for
instance,
mental
health
partners
if
they're
involved,
but
they
don't
always-
and
even
if
they
do
lots
of
times
they
are
more
connected
to
and
are
more
trusting
of,
our
homeless
navigators.
So
it's
not
unusual
for
them
to
help
them
fill
out.
T
T
I
don't
know
to
the
extent
to
which
the
county
court
appreciates
this,
but,
for
instance,
it's
not
uncommon
for
us
to
say
by
the
way.
Your
sanction
in
this
case
is
to
attend
your
county
court
date
at
this
time
on
this
location
at
this
location
and
then,
if
they
follow
through
they're
getting
credit
for
that.
So
there's
a
wide
variety
of
things
we
can
do,
but
our
primary
focus
is
on
the
various
ways
of
getting
people
housed.
S
Great
thanks
thanks
judge
cook
and
then
a
second
and
final
question.
I
think
you
mentioned
that
this
was
all
stood
up
thanks
to
a
grant
that
we
received
and
the
only
sad
thing
about
grants
is
they
tend
to
have
a
an
end
time
with
the
money
stops.
What
what?
What
is
the
long-term
plan
for
potentially
continuing
this
after
the
grant
money
is
exhausted.
T
So,
first
of
all,
it
is
possible,
with
these
grants
to
apply
for
a
one-year
extension
if
you're
not
going
to
expend
the
funds,
and
we
are
not
going
to
expend
all
our
funds
by
the
end
of
september
and
we've
been
told
by
the
center
for
court
innovation,
which
plays
a
role
in
providing
techno
technical
assistance
to
grantees
that
they
expect
these
requests
to
be
viewed
very
favorably
and
that
every
site
that
was
awarded
a
grant
this
cycle
will
be
requesting
that
so
we
are
more
or
less
planning
that
we're
going
to
have
the
funds
through
2020
september
of
2023..
T
T
And
so,
if,
if
we're
finding
that
it's
been
efficacious,
you
will
probably
see
us
asking
for
some
additional
funds
as
part
of
our
budget.
S
Well
thanks
and
that's
why
I
think
this
this
type
of
presentation
and
the
data
that
you're
sharing
is
so
super
important,
because
the
fall
of
2023
is
not
far
away
as
a
matter
of
fact
we'll
be
working
on
the
2023
budget
here
over
the
next
few
months,
and
so
I
think,
to
the
extent
that
you
believe
you
need
funding
for
the
end
of
2023
and
into
2024
having
this
information.
This
data
to
to
prove
up
the
efficacy,
as
you
say
of
the
program,
is
going
to
be
super
important.
S
G
You
thanks
matt
and
rachel
and
jeannie.
C
Helpful
and
it
looks
like
the
work
is
just
going
really
well
considering
the
those
that
are
being
impacted.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Bob
really
asked
my
question
with
regards
to
the
grant
and
knowing
there's
an
extension,
so
I
appreciate
that
we
can
have
an
opportunity
to
fulfill
that
long
term,
but
I'll
transition
to
a
different
one,
which
is
you
know,
speaking
of
sort
of
spending,
our
own
money.
You
mentioned
that
there
were
some
limitations
with
how
to
spend
the
grant.
C
We're
currently
present,
and
so
I
I
would
just
maybe
encourage
that
in
submitting
a
grant
submitting
a
request
for
funding,
think
about
those
limitations
and
and
and
go
big
and
some
of
that,
and
maybe
just
ask-
provide
a
comment
of
we're,
also
looking
at
providing
a
day
shelter
with
navigation
services,
and
so
maybe
that's
a
location
to
have
a
physical
presence
for
some
of
this.
That
was
clearly
a
limitation
that
was
was
mentioned
in
there.
C
So
I
think
there's
some
synergies
to
be
had,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
for
what
you're
doing
and
and
the
work
that
the
community
court
has
for
sure.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you
and
we're
already
deep
in
conversation
with
people
from
hhs
about
co-locating
services
and
even
staff.
P
Basically,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
as
we're
looking
at
day,
services
and-
and
you
mentioned,
that
you
needed
a
centralized
spot
for
connections
and
case
management,
but
it
sounds
like
there
would
be
a
it
was
even
gonna
use
the
word
synergy
there.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
set
up
that
working
group
that
you
will
be
like
you're
you're
on
tap
to
participate
in
it
and
and
well
aware
and
doing
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
hopefully
have
that
synergistic
sounds
like
yes.
Yes,
absolutely
thanks.
K
Thank
you
aaron.
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
I
think
you
may
have
answered
that
question,
but
it's
a
bit
of
a
clarification.
So
I
noticed
some
of
the
programming
you
mentioned
pay
for
ids.
Okay,
I
mean
helping
someone
with
ids
and
birth
certificate,
but
I'm
wondering
is
there
funding
for
that?
Or
is
the
funding
for
bringing
someone
in
the
door
having
the
staff
to
support
them
so
that
they
can
apply,
but
is
there
funding
for
them
to
apply
for
id,
because
an
id
do
cost
money
as
well.
T
Yes,
so
it's
not
actually
from
the
grant,
because
we
were
already
getting
funding,
which
is
from
a
very,
very
small
pot
of
hhs
money,
that's
available
not
just
to
people
who
are
coming
through
the
courtroom
door,
but
other
people
who
might
be
walking
into
the
door
at
the
shelter
and
applying
for
an
id.
But
yes,
we
have
those
funds.
G
M
Just
had
a
question,
thank
you
judge
cook,
and
I
was
just
wondering
the
completion
rate
of
you
know
the
tasks
that
folks
are
given
and
what
they
complete
being
so
high.
I
was
wondering
if
that's
what
other
cities
find
as
well
or
if
we
can
commend
you
on
doing
a
particularly
good
job
here
in
boulder.
T
Well,
all
modesty
aside,
I
don't
think
that's
what
other
cities
are
finding
and
I
think
that's
for
a
couple
of
reasons,
number
one.
We
are
meeting
people
where
we're
at
we're
going
out
into
the
community
to
conduct
court,
and
even
though
we
want
to
have
a
physical
location
in
the
future,
we
will
never
give
up
the
mobile
aspect
of
this.
T
It
will,
it
will
not
be
either
or
it
will
be
an
and,
and
secondly,
what
you
find
in
doing
this
work
is
it's
so
relationship
based
that
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
we
have
the
success
that
we
do
is
because
our
navigators,
our
court
clerks,
the
ones
that
are
in
court
on
a
regular
basis
or
out
there
in
the
community.
They
have
these
relationships,
and
so
without
that,
I
don't
think
that
you
could
accomplish
the
same
level
of
completion.
T
G
W
Good
evening,
mayor
brockett,
mayor
pro
tem
friend
and
members
of
city
council
tonight,
I
want
to
start
this
presentation
differently
than
I
usually
do
when
discussing
the
quarterly
crime
update
with
council
every
day
I
review
body,
worn
camera
footage
of
boulder
police
officers,
responding
to
community
calls
for
service
heroically.
W
I
want
to
share
some
of
these
heroic
acts
with
the
community
and
council,
so
you
too
are
aware,
I
believe
the
police
are
in
the
best
position
to
be
our
community
ambassadors
and
in
many
instances
they
are
the
most
visible
representatives
of
our
city
and
government.
Often
these
stories
go
untold
and
thus
mostly
forgotten.
W
So
tonight,
if
you
will
indulge
me,
I
want
to
begin
this
presentation
with
a
story.
If
you
could
please
go
to
the
presentation
and
I'll
start
out.
W
So,
on
february,
27
of
2022,
this
young
man,
that's
sitting
in
the
car.
His
friends
called
him
for
an
emergency
response,
because
their
friend
had
stopped
breathing.
They
knew
their
friend
moments
earlier
had
used.
Fentanyl
the
police
officers
responded
quickly,
assessed
the
problem
and
administered
narcan
within
seconds
their
friend
started.
Breathing.
W
His
friends
were
grateful
for
the
quick
response
and
the
use
of
narcan,
and
this
young
man
will
make
a
full
recovery
thanks
to
the
quick
response
of
our
officers
and
responding
medical
personnel
in
2021,
boulder
police
department
officers
saved
17
people
from
drug
overs
overdoses,
not
including
cpr
and
aed
measures
over
death.
Overdose
deaths
will
be
higher
without
the
quick
response
and
training
required
to
use
narcan
to
save
lives.
W
Unfortunately,
like
many
other
crimes
in
2022,
boulder's
numbers
will
likely
be
higher
because
of
the
drugs
like
fentanyl
flooding,
boulder
county.
Our
first
responders
were
dispatched
to
another
apparent
overdose
incident
and
saved
yet
another
life.
Just
yesterday
so
tonight
dr
reinhardt
will
discuss
crime
trends
in
boulder,
the
state
of
colorado
and
the
nation.
W
W
We
can
tell
you
that
several
factors
are
at
play
here
and
researchers
across
the
country
are
reviewing
numerous
correlations.
We
probably
will
not
know
the
direct
causation
for
years
to
come.
If
at
all,
one
thing
is
for
sure,
with
every
crime
reported,
there
is
community
harm
and
a
member
of
our
community
suffers
as
a
result.
W
W
Unfortunately
officer
staffing
reductions
are
at
play
here
as
well.
The
boulder
police
department
are
currently
down
14
of
its
workforce,
approximately
27
out
of
the
180
police
officers
we
have
assigned,
unfortunately,
police,
legitimate
legitimacy,
factors
and
police
reform
movements
after
the
murder
of
george
floyd
are
at
play.
W
W
There
is
a
tremendous
lack
of
drug
addiction,
services
and
behavioral
health
services
in
not
only
balder
county,
but
the
state
of
colorado
also
at
play
are
the
recent
legislative
changes
as
it
relates
to
crime,
and
there
are
many
in
the
last
few
years
and
unfortunately,
jail
restructuring
has
jail.
Restrictions
have
plagued
us
for
the
last
couple
years
due
to
the
covet
19
pandemic
next
slide.
W
X
Okay,
thanks
chief
for
the
introduction
yeah,
my
name
is
dr
reinhard.
I'm
here
to
talk
about
public
safety
concerns
in
boulder
today,
so
the
I
wanna,
I
wanna
start
by
saying
that
the
crime
rate
comparisons
that
we're
going
to
talk
about,
used
publicly
available
data
for
the
us
and
colorado
through
the
colorado
division
of
criminal
justice.
X
X
X
On
this
slide,
we
present
selected
violent
crime
as
a
rate
per
100
000
population.
Violent
crime
includes
aggravated
assault,
murder,
robbery
and
sexual
assault,
while
boulder's
violent
crime
rate
has
historically
been
lower
than
the
national
average.
The
rate
in
boulder
has
been
substantially
increasing
over
the
past
nine
years
from
2013
to
2021..
X
X
Here
we
present
selected
property
crime
as
a
rate
per
100
000
population.
The
property
crime
here
includes
burglary
motor
vehicle
theft
and
all
theft
and
larceny
offenses.
The
boulder
crime
rates,
the
property
crime
rates
of
boulder
and
of
colorado
have
been
greater
than
the
national
average.
For
the
last
several
years.
The
property
crime
rate
in
boulder
increased
steadily
from
2015
to
2018.
X
X
X
X
So
on
this
slide,
we're
going
to
talk
about
aggravated
assaults,
aggravated
assault,
and
the
next
slide
on
robbery
are
both
infrequent
events
in
boulder
and
the
boulder
police
department
has
been
seeing
a
steady
increase
in
these
offenses
over
time.
So
the
aggravated
assault
rate
has
increased
over
this
five-year
period.
X
X
Most
of
these
offenses
occurred
in
the
late
evening
or
early
morning
hours
and
they
commonly
occurred
outside.
Some
of
these
assaults
include
assaults
against
law
enforcement
and
first
responders.
In
the
first
two
months
of
this
year,
there
have
been
assaults
against
nine
police
officers
next
slide.
Please.
X
The
property
crime
property
crime
in
boulder
has
steadily
risen
over
time
during
this
five-year
period.
These
property
crimes
include
offenses
such
as
motor
vehicle
theft,
burglary
and
vandalism,
among
others.
In
2020
and
2021.
We
experienced
a
surge
in
these
offenses
in
part
due
to
hundreds
of
additional
identity,
thefts
and
criminal
impersonation
charges
than
was
experienced
in
previous
years.
X
Many
of
these
identity
theft
and
impersonation
charges
are
linked
to
unemployment
fraud,
government
benefits,
fraud
and
tax
refund
fraud.
Now
this
increase
has
been
observed
nationwide,
and
there
are
multiple
federal
trade
commission
reports
indicating
that
across
the
u.s
2020
experienced
twice
as
much
identity
fraud
as
2019.
Y
X
Here
we
disaggregate
residential
and
commercial
burglary
accounts
commercial
burglary.
An
orange
line
is
more
common
than
residential
burglary.
The
green
line,
the
third
line
above
both
orange
and
green,
presents
the
aggregated
burglary
count,
while
commercial
and
residential
burglary
fluctuates
slightly
differently
over
time.
Both
kinds
of
burglary
appear
to
have
increased
in
march
2020.
X
X
X
X
Boulders
motor
vehicle
theft
experience
an
upward
trend
in
this
five
year
period.
The
colorado,
auto
theft
prevention
authority
task
force
presents
information
about
motor
vehicle
theft
in
the
denver
metro
area.
Among
their
findings
for
2021
vehicles
appear
not
to
be
stolen.
Randomly
that
is
some
kinds
of
vehicles
appear,
more
likely
to
be
stolen.
X
X
X
This
slide
presents
heat
maps
known
academically
as
single
kernel
density
estimation,
maps
of
the
three
things
thefts
from
vehicles
out
of
motor
vehicle
parts,
motor
vehicle
thefts
and
then,
lastly,
of
stolen
vehicle
recoveries.
X
Each
of
these
maps
are
for
the
entire
year
of
2021.,
from
left
to
right,
thefts
from
vehicles
and
vehicle
parts
appeared
to
concentrate
along
the
table,
mesa
park
and
ride,
and
also
along
28th
street
running
south
to
north
and
boulder
the
middle
map
thefts
of
motor
vehicles.
While
they
appeared
more
dispersed
throughout
the
city,
they
occurred
more
frequently
in
the
university
hill
area
and
near
baseline,
road
and
28th.
X
X
The
boulder
police
department
is
proactively
working
with
several
interagency
and
multi-jurisdictional
groups
to
address
motor
vehicle
theft
issues.
The
groups
that
we
are
part
of
right
now
include
the
colorado,
auto
theft,
prevention
authority,
the
beat
auto
theft
through
law
enforcement
task
force
and
the
colorado
metropolitan,
auto
theft
task
force
next
slide.
Please.
X
X
There
are
several
crime
prevention
activities
that
you
can
do
to
reduce
the
likelihood
of
your
vehicle
being
stolen
or
things
being
stolen
from
your
vehicle.
Things
like
locking
your
doors,
don't
leave
spare
keys
in
your
car
and
don't
leave
valuables
in
plain
sight
of
your
windows
next
slide.
Please.
X
X
The
boulder
police
department
was
the
lead
on
investigations
with
partners
in
the
denver
metropolitan
area
and
recently
brought
charges
against
eight
people
for
hundreds
of
counts,
of
allegedly
committing
several
dozen
bike
shop,
burglaries,
auto
thefts
and
attempted
burglaries
and
thefts.
The
property
damage
carried
out
in
2019
and
2020
was
approximately
and
a
half
million
dollars
according
to
the
attorney
general's
office.
X
Other
bpd
efforts
and
interventions
have
involved
the
distribution
of
information,
materials,
public
awareness
campaigns
and
consultations
with
individuals
and
businesses
to
instruct
persons
on
crime
prevention
principles.
Ultimately,
there
are
several
empowering
steps
that
each
person
can
take
to
reduce
the
likelihood
of
bicycle
theft.
X
X
Please
email
me
if
you'd
like
clarifications
about
any
of
the
concepts
I'm
about
to
discuss
in
order
to
understand
a
full
picture
of
measuring
crime,
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
things
that
require
considerations
about
criminology,
demography,
geography
and
econometrics
on
the
creation
of
charts
and
inferential
statistics.
The
charts
presented
here
are
for
a
general
crime
update
and
they
are
descriptive
by
comparison.
X
The
trend
lines
presented
in
the
offense
charts
present
again
descriptive
attempts
to
demonstrate
how
counts
of
crime
are
changing
over
time.
They
represent
crime
incidents,
while
the
boulder
police
department
is
currently
engaged
in
research
to
understand
causal
claims
and
to
measure
effectiveness,
establishing
causality
scientifically
is
tricky.
X
It
requires
discussing
criteria
for
causality,
it
might
require
talking
about
grainger,
causality
and
related
concepts
like
probabilistic
and
deterministic
principles.
On
the
complications
of
population-based
rates
per
month,
the
first
few
charts
present
rates
using
residential
population.
This
was
done
with
boulder
data
because
it
mirrors
what
was
done
with
state
and
federal
data
elsewhere.
X
Annual
data
for
population
estimates
are
more
readily
available
than
monthly
population
estimates
within
population
estimates.
It's
especially
complicated
because
the
most
accurate
approach
would
probably
be
to
distinguish
residential
population
from
ambient
population
from
populations
served
by
the
boulder
police
department.
X
So
for
understanding
sake,
residential
population
is
normally
what's
used
with
things
like
census,
data
or
other
means
ambient
population
estimates
pertain
to
the
population
actively
present
in
an
area
so
like
a
commuter
population
that
doesn't
live
in
boulder
but
travels
here
for
work
or
leisure
activities
and
the
population
state.
The
population
served
by
bpd
can
include
individuals
outside
of
boulder
when
boulder
assists
other
agencies
like
when
we
regularly
assist
the
boulder
county
sheriff's
office.
X
Lastly,
a
brief
answer
to
a
complicated
problem,
establishing
best
practices
for
measuring
pandemic
relevant
effects,
so
we're
currently
looking
into
the
most
appropriate
ways
of
measuring
the
effect
of
the
pandemic
on
crime.
There
are
several
criminology
studies
that
have
concluded
differences
in
crime
before
and
after
march
of
2020..
X
X
It
depends
on
things
like
frequencies
by
unit
of
analysis,
stationary
considerations
and
whether
data
transformations
are
necessary
within
structural
equation.
Modeling.
I'm
also
looking
to
see
whether
path
analysis
modeling
provide
a
clearer
picture
of
the
direct
and
indirect
effects
the
pandemic,
so
understanding
the
pandemic
effect
is
difficult
for
a
bunch
of
reasons
that
I'll
just
talk
briefly
about
one
of
them
is
that
the
pandemic
has
involved
multiple
strains
of
varying
contagiousness
and
illness
severity.
X
X
So
safety
data
can
be
complicated.
I
put
my
email
on
this
slide.
Please
let
me
know
if
I
can
help
clarify
anything
about
crime
or
criminology.
For
example,
crime
is
often
underreported,
but
it's
variably
underreported
and
often
requires
victim
surveys.
To
understand
that.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
will
respond
to
any
questions.
P
Thanks
for
that
presentation
and
daniel
welcome
to
boulder,
we
met
a
couple
weeks
ago,
thanks
for
being
here,
so
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarification
on
a
couple
of
the
categories.
I
think
you
said
it,
but
can
you
remind
us
what
is
the
definition
of
a
violent
crime
that
fell
into
one
of
those
earlier
slides.
P
Thanks
and
for
something
like
sexual
assault,
I
don't
think
I
saw
that
in
the
slides
or
in
the
packet
it
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
look
like
each
of
those
categories
got
a
slide.
So
can
you
explain
sort
of
what
what
that
does
show
like
if,
if
all
of
them
went
up
and
and
then
we
highlighted
a
couple
like
aggravated
assault,
did
some
of
them
go
down
or
okay?
I
guess,
can
you
just
elaborate
on
that?
X
Yeah,
so
I
aggregated
the
crimes
in
the
way
that
I
did
because
of
the
other
reports
that
were
put
out
and
so
for
space
reasons
we
haven't
talked
about
every
kind
of
crime.
For
example,
in
neighbors
there
were
over
30
kinds
of
crime,
and
so
we
tried
to
be
selective
about
it.
X
Sexual
assault
from
2017
to
2021
has
been
relatively
stable
and
it's
also
a
relatively
rare
occurrence
in
boulder
so
similar
to
like
robbery.
For
example,
sex
offenses,
don't
tend
to
be
more
than
like
five
to
ten
per
month,
but
it's
obviously
variable
in
that
time
frame.
P
Okay,
so
I
guess
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
why
robbery
and
not
sex
assault
when
both
are
sort
of
low
numbers
and
any
any
way
to
shed
light
on
that
yeah.
X
P
Okay,
well,
I
think
that
you
know
when
we
think
about
violent
crimes,
especially
as
women.
That's
one
that
is
a
top
of
mind,
concern
for
many
people,
okay,
and
then
I,
I
guess
I'll.
Just
ask
the
same
question
about
the
property
crimes
which,
like
how
many
are
total
and
how
many
were
included
or
excluded
from
the
chart.
X
Yeah,
so
the
crime
rate
with
property
crime,
those
include
for
the
earlier
slide,
burglary,
motor
vehicle
theft
and
all
theft
and
larceny,
and
I
should
say
the
boulder
specific
property
crimes
are
broader,
with
more
categories
included
and
it's
for
the
similar
reason,
the
earlier
ones
that
were
considering
rates.
X
These
are
absolutely
good
questions,
and
I,
I
hope
that
I'm
helping
to
answer
them
and
also
clarify
that
some
of
this
requires
more
time
than
a
20-minute
presentation.
Yeah.
P
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
guess
one
thing
I
just
I
I
want
to
be
careful
about.
Is
you
know
all
the
slides
that
we're
showing
or
most
of
them
are
are
crime
rates
that
are
going
up
and-
and
I
assume
that
there
are
you
know
we
should-
I
think
I
guess
bicycles-
maybe
we're
going
down,
but
not
a
lot,
and
so
I
don't
want
us
to
be
highlighting
just
the
ones
that
are
going
up.
P
If
there
are
some
within
those
categories
that
are
going
down,
you
know,
I
think
that
we
could
be
frightening
people
you
know
or
inflaming,
if,
if
we're
only
highlighting
that
the
upward
trend,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
to
understand
kind
of
how
we're
how
we're
picking
which
ones
get
get
their
own
slides
and
what
pieces
we're
pulling
out.
And-
and
so
I
I
guess
just
to
finish
up
that
thought
person
offense
what
what
falls
under
that
category
and
was
there
anything
left
out
of
that,
because
that
was
another
one.
X
Yeah
so
person
offenses
includes
generally
eight
or
nine
kinds
of
offenses
within
those
eight
or
nine
kinds
of
offenses.
It
includes
things
like
murder,
non-negligent,
manslaughter
assaults
of
different
kinds,
so,
like
simple
assaults
and
aggravated
assaults,
different
kinds,
I
said:
intimidation,
technically,
they're
called
menacing
different
kinds
of
robbery
and
other
crimes
of
that
nature,
sort
of
specifically
targeting
individuals.
So
sexual
crimes
would
fall
within
that.
Generally
speaking,.
P
Okay,
so
some
of
that,
then,
is
yeah,
I
guess
kind
of
shown
in
two
different
ways,
because
that
would
a
lot
of
that
would
be
included
under
violent
crime
as
well
yeah,
or
at
least
the
first
couple
categories
that
you
mentioned.
Okay,
those
are
all
my
questions
for
now,
thanks
for
clarifying
that.
W
If
I
could
just
jump
into
I
first
first
of
all,
the
majority
of
crimes
are
seen,
increases
it's
it's.
The
ones
that
have
remained
stable
are
sexual
assaults
and
some
of
the
disorderly
crimes
that
we
see
quality
of
life
crimes
because
of
borrowed
closures
and
so
forth
over
the
last
couple
years.
But
our
intention
is
not
to
frighten
the
community.
W
All
with
this
presentation,
my
intention
is
to
be
transparent
and
accountable
to
this
community
about
crime
and
how
it's
impacting
this
community
and
we
are
seeing
significant
community
harm
because
of
crime,
and
that
is
my
intention
is
to
be
transparent.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
say.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
I
appreciate.
K
You
know
ensuring
that
we're
highlighting
where
you
know
either
crimes
have
gone
down
or
there's
a
reduction,
because
I
think
it's
a
bit
alarming
that
you
know
police,
chief
mayors,
you
came
to
give
a
presentation,
and
it's
mostly
about
how
crime
is
going
up.
I'd
love
to
hear
about
you
know
where
crime
has
either
gone
down
or
how
things
have
improved
as
well,
because
I
would
imagine,
that's
also
part
of
the
work
that
you
do
in
the
community.
K
W
Now,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
juni
and
again
I
don't.
I
do
not
want
anybody
here
or
the
community
to
think
that
I
am
only
reporting
on
bad
things.
The
the
crimes
that
we've
had
significant
impacts
with
are
were
accounted
for
in
this
presentation,
and
so
I-
and
so
your
second
question-
was
that
about
cu
property
and
they
have
their
own
crime
data.
They
are
their
own
jurisdiction
and
they
have
their
own
crime
stats.
W
J
W
Mentioned
routine
activities
theory
the
some
of
the
offenders
obviously
use
both
cu's
property
and
boulder's
property
to
commit
crimes.
So
it's
important
that
we're
both
aware
of
our
crime
trends
and
we're
talking
regularly
on
that
and
our
databases
are
set
up
to
understand
these
crime
patterns
and
routine
activity
theories
of
these
offenders.
B
B
You
know
my
big
dream
is
for
the
police
officers
for
the
police
department
to
work
together
and
partner
with
the
community,
so
we
can
have
a
better
place
to
live,
and
I
feel
I
want
to
thank
you,
police,
chief,
harold,
because
I
feel
like
that's
really
at
the
crux
of
what
you
want
you
want.
You
want
to
make
our
police
department
better,
you
are
giving
them
dei
training
and
all
the
different
things
that
are
so
important
to
so
many
of
us,
and
I
think
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you.
B
We
appreciate
it
and
all
how
much
you
care.
So
that's
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say.
The
second
thing
is,
I
feel,
like
it's
always
better
to
live
in
reality.
So
if
there
is
an
increase
in
crime,
we
need
to
know
about
it.
Why?
Because
there's
a
lot
of
crimes
of
opportunity,
we
need
to
lock
our
cars,
don't
ever
leave
your
car
open
ever
I've
gone
on
to
next
door
and
somebody
always
writes
30
seconds.
I
left
my
card
for
30
seconds.
Don't
ever
you
can
be
cold
in
your
car.
B
So
all
these
different,
these
different
opportunities
to
make
to
to
make
ourselves
safer,
are
really
important
for
the
community
and
we
need
to
know
how
to
be
safer
and
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
do
what
it
need
that
we
do
what
we
can
to
be
safer.
B
So
I
didn't
want
to
mention
that,
and
I
want
to
give
you
a
special
thanks,
because
a
year
or
so
ago
it
seemed
like
all
was
lost
for
bicycles.
I
was
pretty
depressed
about
it.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
were,
and
we've
come
a
long
way,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
what
your
plan
is
going
to
be
for
all
the
other
trending
upward
crimes,
especially
let's
say,
catalytic
converters
and
motor
vehicle
theft.
B
I
do
have
one
question
actually
believe
it
not
just
my
little
speech
of
yay
the
police,
and
that
is,
I
was
a
little
disturbed
by
the
table
mesa
park
and
ride.
Tell
us
what
we
can
do.
What
can
you
do?
What
can
we
do?
How
can
we
change
that
trend?
A
lot
of
people,
especially
in
south
boulder
east
boulder
park
there,
and
if
we're
going
to
make
a
dent
in
our
transportation
goals,
that's
an
important
place.
W
Yeah,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilmember
weiner.
I
appreciate
your
comments
and
yeah
the
park
and
ride
in
all
locations
in
boulder
are
problematic
and
we're
working
with
the
management
team
out
of
denver.
You
can
tell
if
you
look
at
the
park
and
ride
at
table
mesa.
It
is
completely
structured
differently
than
some
of
the
other
ones
up
along
the
36
corridor,
mostly
because
they
have
taken
great
measures
with
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design,
tactics
on
those
and
they
are
slow
to
respond
to
the
table
mesa
with
additional
lighting.
W
But
we
are
working
in
close
collaboration
with
them
to
improve
some
of
these
issues
that
we've
identified,
I
can
tell
you:
our
officers
have
been
down
there,
putting
out
crime
prevention
leaflets,
putting
crime
pamphlets
on
people's
cars,
to
alert
them
that
we
do
have
serious
issues,
especially
at
that
one,
as
it
relates
to
motor
vehicle
theft
and
catalytic
converter
theft.
So
we
are
hopeful
that
we
continue
to
work
and
they
have
their
own
police
department
too.
W
B
W
Not
have,
I
cannot
remember
at
any
point
that
we
had
a
sexual
assault
at
one
of
the
park
and
rides
that
was
reported,
but
the
lighting,
the
lighting
there
needs
to
be
improved
and
there
needs
to
be
some
crime
prevention
mechanisms
in
place
that
just
need
to
be
improved
in
the
building
and
so
we're
confident
within
the
year.
We'll
get
some
of
those
improvements
going
in
the
right
direction.
A
Thank
you,
mr
reinhart,
and
thank
you
chief.
Obviously,
I
prefer
other
news,
but
I
appreciate
the
candor
and
transparency
that
you
showed
in
giving
it
to
us
directly
and
without
any
effort
to
to
escape
the
reality
of
where
we
are.
I
actually
only
have
two
questions.
The
first
is
is
really
very
minor,
but
I
just
need
to
know
mr
reiner,
why?
Why
are
criminals
targeting
older
cars,
but
that
does
not?
X
X
A
second
hypothesis
is
that
there
are
differences
in
how
motor
vehicle
thefts
are
charged,
and
so
that
in
part
is
based
on
the
value
of
vehicles,
and
so
it
could
like
a
hypothesis,
is
that
older
vehicles
are
of
less
value,
and
so
they
are
charged
differently
when
they
are
stolen.
Those
are
two
hypotheses
that
we've
been
talking
about,
but
we
we
don't
really
know
definitively.
X
A
My
other
question
is
for
the
chief
one
of
the
elements
that
you
listed
as
impeding
our
ability
to
get
after
some
of
the
to
lower
some
of
these
crime.
Statistics
is
the
large
number
of
vacancies
that
you're
currently
experiencing
on
on
staff?
A
Is
there
any
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
with
respect
to
that,
is
you
know,
can
you
can
you
give
a
projection
as
to
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
be
able
to
fill
those
vacancies
or
what
the
timetable
might
be
for
doing
so
and
again
right
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel?
Is
there
any.
W
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
a
full
staffing
update
in
the
future.
If
you
want,
I
do
think,
there's
light
at
the
tunnel.
I
do
think
deputy
chief
weinheimer
is
on
this
call
and
he's
been
doing
a
remarkable
job
with
our
public
information
officer,
doing
some
innovation
to
attract
people
to
boulder,
and
so
I
think
that
by
this
time
next
year,
we'll
be
in
in
better
shape.
We've
got
officers
scheduled
for
academies,
we're
running
testing
right
now.
W
So
to
be
brief
right
now,
yes,
there's
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel,
but
I
would
I
will
just
offer
that
I
meet
weekly
with
chiefs
from
across
the
state
of
colorado.
It
is
extremely
hard
to
recruit
for
police
officers
right
now,
and
it
is.
We
are
doing
a
lot
of
innovation
around
this
issue
to
get
people
to
want
to
come
here
and
we're
offering
lateral
bonuses
to
people
that
come
from
other
agencies
in
the
state
of
colorado.
W
So
we
our
numbers,
are
going
to
improve.
It's
also
retaining
the
officers
that
we
have
has
been
problematic,
and
I
don't
know
if
deputy
chief
weinheimer
is
on
here
if
he
wants
to
add
to
that
as
well.
But
I
think
it's
worthwhile
a
further
discussion
on
this.
Z
Chief
evening,
council,
carrie,
weinhammer,
deputy
police
chief
I'll
just
add
a
couple
of
comments,
chief's
right,
it's
extremely
difficult
to
recruit
new
officers
right
now.
In
our
current
process,
we
have
about
50
some
applicants.
Historically,
you
know
going
back
a
few
years.
We
could
have
several
hundred
and
that
that's
a
it's
a
local
trend.
It's
a
national
trend.
Z
Our
goal
is
to
hire
24
to
25
officers
a
year
in
2021
we
hired
27..
That
said,
we're
now
sitting
on
27
vacancies
and
don't
forget
that
it
takes
almost
a
year
from
the
time
we
post
a
process,
hire
an
officer
with
no
experience
and
get
them
out
on
the
street
on
their
own.
Z
So
there
is
that
lag
time
that
we're
always
going
to
be
facing
we're
trying
to
hire
more
lateral
officers,
but
so
is
every
other
agency,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
turn
the
corner
if
we
slow
down
the
attrition
rate
and
are
able
to
hit
our
targets
of
24.25
a
year,
I
think
in
a
couple
years
we'll
be
caught
up.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate.
A
W
I
just
want
to
comment
because
council
member,
while
I
really
brought
up
a
great
point,
that
I
follow,
you
brought
up
the
price
of
cars
in
the
older
model,
cars
and
I
think
this
speaks
volumes
to
who's
being
harmed
by
these
crimes
and
unfortunately,
the
older
model
cars
are
not
worth
as
much
and
therefore
the
colorado
state
law
does
not
have
the
same
consequences
for
those
types
of
crimes.
So
the
offenders
know
that
we've
interviewed
offenders.
They
say
that,
but
unfortunately,
think
about.
W
If
you
were
a
single
mother,
driving
a
1992
toyota
corolla
and
your
car
gets
stole
stolen.
It
has
significant
community
harm
to
that,
and
so
it's
a
great
point
council,
member
wallach.
It's
something
that
I'm
passionate
about
education
on
these
issues,
because
who
are
the
real
victims
of
this
type
of
crime?
And
it
is
not
people
that
are
driving
expensive
cars,
their
bypass
for
these
lower
level
type
of
cars.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that,
thanks
for
the
question
councilmember
wallach
thank.
O
Thank
you,
as
I
appreciated
having
the
presentation
on
this.
You
know
updated
information.
I
think,
like
a
number
of
other
people,
I.
O
Some
of
the
trend
lines
are
clearly
troubling.
I
think
there's
also
a
question
in
my
mind
of
given
the
same
data.
If
I
were,
you
know
looking
through
it,
if
I
would
come
up
with
the
same
trend
lines,
and
so
I
think
that's
why
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
sort
of
around
how
we
got
there
and
you
know
what
this
shows.
So
I
think,
first
of
all,
I'm
really
interested
to
know.
O
You
know
when
this
more
complex
analysis
you
spoke
of
might
be
coming
in
front
of
us,
because
I
think
that
that
could
be
really
enlightening.
X
Yeah
so
there's
many
things
that
I
discussed
throughout
the
presentation
and
so
there's
different
kinds
of
analyses
for
different
kinds
of
problem.
Solving
we
like
to
use
sort
of
a
situational
crime
prevention
approach,
where
we
consider
specific
offenses
in
specific
places,
because
we're
likely
to
find
we're
likely
to
measure
appreciable
differences
when
we
do
that,
it's
hard
to
target
all
crime
in
the
entire
city,
because
crime
happens
differently
in
different
places.
X
To
answer
your
question
sort
of
more
succinctly,
it
kind
of
depends
on
the
problem,
but
it's
something
that
we're
interested
in
doing
very
quickly,
something
we're
interested
in
doing
soon
and
then
sort
of
how
the
format
for
that
develops
we'll
have
to
discuss
going
forward.
If
it's
a
written
report-
or
you
know
something
of
that
nature.
O
Okay,
thank
you.
I
think
you
know
there
is
information
that
I'd
like
to
see
included
here.
Rachel
asked
a
lot
of
great
questions
around
sort
of
what
categories
each
one
of
these
slides
includes
in
terms
of
types
of
crime
and
in
the
future.
X
O
W
Yeah
and
council
member
folkerts,
just
just
to
let
you
know
a
lot
of
this
information
is
readily
available
on
our
community
dashboard.
It's
just
if
you
want
to
come
in
and
we
could
have
somebody
give
you
a
tutorial.
I
think
it's
fascinating
and
same
type
of
trend
lines.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot,
a
lot
of
information
on
that
community
dashboard.
O
One
of
the
things
that
I
think
that
I'd
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
data
around
what
kinds
of
crimes
are
happening.
I'd
also
be
really
interested
to
know
sort
of
on
the
part
that,
in
my
opinion,
we
can
control
a
little
more.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
police
department
itself
like
do
we
have
data
on
response
times
like?
Could
we
see
response
times
across
five
years
to
see
how
that's
relating
to
some
of
these
you
know
relating
with
these
other
numbers
that
we're
seeing
and
then
also
time
allocation.
O
W
W
Service
have
remained
steady
for
the
past
10
years,
but
the
complexity
of
the
calls
for
service
have
changed
dramatically
and
we
most
certainly
will
be
sharing
that
data
with
you
as
part
of
another
presentation,
I
hope,
as
part
of
the
master
plan
process
by
dr
troy
payne,
who
did
that
analysis
for
us
and
it's
interesting,
especially
if
you
have
any
historical
perspective
as
it
relates
to
boulder.
The
findings
are,
are
really
interesting.
So,
yes,
we
can
most
certainly
get
you
all
of
that
information
as
well.
Councilman
reforkelsh.
G
M
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
echo
everybody's
thanks
for
this
presentation.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
you
for
putting
out
information
as
to
how
we
in
the
community
can
try
to
help
you
all
and
help
prevent
crime
and
yeah.
I'm
just
gonna
echo
some
of
those
things
for
the
community.
Once
again,
this
is
so
important
use,
u-locks
on
your
bikes,
lock
your
car
doors,
don't
leave
keys
in
your
car
as
convenient,
as
that
sometimes
seems
to
be
a
place
for
spare
keys.
M
All
of
these
things
will
help
us
all
lower
crime
in
our
community.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
I
know
the
the
thefts
and
things
that
table
mesa
park
and
ride,
and
my
area
of
town
have
been
particularly
of
concern
for
those
of
us
that,
like
to
park
there
when
we
say
when
we
do
travel
not
pandemic
to
go
to
the
airport.
M
So
thank
you
for
all
your
efforts
there
and
I
I
really
just
want
to
just
thank
you
all
for
putting
together
so
much
of
this
data.
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
big
area
for
you,
chief,
harold,
just
trying
to
wrangle
all
of
this
information
and
get
it
into
a
way
that
we
can
interpret
it
and
understand
it.
M
Speaking
of
people
taking
questions,
lauren
kind
of
took
one
of
my
questions,
but
I
just
want
to
restate
it
here
understanding
the
statistical
significance
of
those
trends
that
are
potentially
in
the
data,
I
think,
is
absolutely
critical,
and
you
know
when,
when
I
look
at
those
graphs
right,
there's
a
lot
of
variability-
and
I
know
chief
harold-
we've
talked
about
this-
about
how
there's
seasonal
variability
and
the
pandemic
had
an
impact.
M
And
all
of
this,
though,
the
variability
in
those
graphs
is
really
large
and
that
the
sort
of
the
trends
that
we're
seeing
are
much
smaller.
And
so
I
think
it
really
is
critical
for
us
in
thinking
about
what
is
happening
in
our
community
with
regard
to
crime
over
time,
and
where
are
we
now
in
a
broader
context?
M
It's
really
important
that
we
have
those
those
those
numbers
and
that
information,
so
dr
reinhardt
and
and
chief
harold
would
be
wonderful
to
have
that
as
soon
as
possible.
Just
to
get
you
know
what
it.
What
is
the
statistical
significance
of
what
we're
seeing,
because
I
think
in
a
while,
so
I
know
we're
not
talking
policy
tonight,
but
I
think
it'll
help
us
as
council
think
about
you
know
where,
where
are
places
that
we
can,
you
know
impact
on
crime
more
right.
M
If
we
know
that
certain
things
are
statistically
significant
and
others
you
know,
may
just
be
natural
variability.
I
think
that
that
you
know
helps
us
get
just
a
picture
and
an
understanding
of
what's
going
on.
So
you
know
for
me,
just
looking
at
some
of
those
analyses
of
the
the
trends
would
be
incredibly
valuable
for
for
really
understanding
what's
going
on
here
and
I
want
to
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
community.
I'm
not
questioning
the
data
at
all
right.
M
What
what
I
am
just
wanting
us
to
be
really
sensitive
to
is
that
descriptive
statistics
don't
actually
tell
us
whether
things
are
kind
of
the
degree
to
which
things
are
changing
over
time.
We
can't
draw.
You
know
these
conclusions
that
you
know.
Wow
crime
is
increasing
so
much
in
the
city
by
looking
at
you
know
a
few
years
worth
of
data
without
having
some
statistics
and-
and
I
think
that
there
it's
likely
that
some
of
those
trends
are
significant.
M
It
would
just
be
nice
to
to
know
that,
and
I
don't
I
mean
significance
in
a
statistical
significant
sense,
not
in
a
impact
of
crime
on
people,
everybody
who
is
impacted
by
crime.
It
is
significant,
you
know
for
for
them,
so
I
don't
mean
dismiss
that.
I
just
think
it's
going
to
help
us
as
we're
thinking
about
getting
a
picture
in
our
city.
W
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that
dr
spear
and
I
I
couldn't
agree
with
you
more
and
I'm
hoping
you
come
in
and
we
we
figure
this
out
together,
because
we
all
we
all
are
in
this
together
right
and
you
know
what
what
you
said
is
so
powerful
to
me
that
once
you're
a
victim
of
a
crime-
and
this
is
so
true
with
even
property
crime-
you
are
never
the
same,
and
we
do
know
that
through
research,
so
the
more
that
we
work
together
on
reducing
community
harm,
the
better,
the
the
vitality
and
the
livability
of
the
city.
G
Thanks,
nicole
bob
and
then
matt.
S
Wow,
what
a
great
partnership
we've
got:
a
super
geeky
police
department
and
I
say
that
in
the
most
complimentary
way,
we've
got
a
super
geeky
city
council.
So
what
what
a
wonderful
marriage
chief
thanks
so
much
to
you
and
dr
reinhardt
and
deputy
g
for
bringing
us
all
these
great
statistics.
As
has
been
said
before,
some
of
the
stories
are
not
happy
stories,
they're,
part
of
local
and
regional
and
national
trends.
S
I
know
you're
trying
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it,
but
we
appreciate
very
much
the
transparency
that
you
bring
to
to
all
of
this,
and-
and
I
know
it's
even
more
difficult
with
with
being
down
14-
and
I
know
you're
all
working
super
hard
in
a
very
competitive
environment
to
to
get
staff
up
to
full
strength.
S
All
the
questions
that
I
had
have
already
been
asked,
but
I
just
have
one
question
which
I
always
ask
a
chief
to
you
and
to
I've
asked
through
the
years
for
your
predecessors.
S
You
know
we're,
of
course,
only
a
legislative
body
and
so
there's
a
limitation
on
what
we
can
do,
but
the
two
things
we
can
do
are
provide
you
with
the
laws
that
you
need
and
provide
you
with
the
budget
that
you
need
no
no.
Last
year,
you
did
come
to
us
and
ask
for
a
law
change
on
a
particular
matter,
and
you
asked
for
some
budget
relief
and
we
gave
you
both
of
those.
W
Now
and
thank
you
so
much
councilmember
yates,
I
really
appreciate
the
support.
I'll,
be
just
really
honest.
I
I
don't
need
neither.
I
just
need
the
support
of
this
council
moving
forward.
These
are
very
challenging
times
and
you
know
we're
gonna
impact
crime
and
disorder.
W
There
there's
no
doubt
about
it,
but
this
is
very
unusual
times
in
this
country
and
and
boulder's
not
immune
to
those
trends,
and
so
we're
going
to
move
forward,
we're
going
to
impact
crime
and
disorder,
and
I
just
need
your
support
and
we
are
doing
a
lot
of
good
work
in
the
boulder
police
department
and
we're
working
with
the
city
manager's
office
to
increase
our
numbers
because
policing
does
matter,
it
matters
a
lot,
and
so
I
just
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
about
these
very
important
issues
to
this
community.
C
Well,
thanks
chief
for
presenting
this
and
and
thanks
daniel,
I
we
appreciate
just
the
information
and
it's
helpful
to
get
this,
certainly
as
a
new
council
member
to
get
kind
of
this
initial
sort
of
review
of
where
we're
at
and
sort
of.
Hopefully,
we
can
go
from
there
to
sort
of
follow
up
on
bob's.
You
know,
fellow
the
geekdom
that
is
incumbent
on
this
call.
C
I
mean
it
seems
like
there's
been
this
sort
of
vulcan
mind
meld,
because
almost
all
the
questions
I
had
written
down
were
answered
by
my
colleagues,
but
it
does
leave
sort
of
one
piece
that
I
want
to
follow
up
with
nicole
a
little
bit
just
speaking
about
the
data,
because
I
think
getting
the
initial
data
about
these
individual
crimes
over
trend
over
time
is
really
important.
C
I
think
the
next
evolution
is
starting
to
look
at
the
causal
relationships
over
other
societal
indicators
as
a
function
of
those
things
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
a
great
next
step.
You
know
one
thing
that
I'm
interested
of
is
like
with
regards
to
robbery
or
motor
vehicle
theft.
Where
are
we
in
compared
to
comparable
cities
around
the
country?
Are
we
higher?
Are
we
lower?
C
Are
we
just
playing
catch
up
to
what
is
a
nominal
amount
of
that
crime
not
acceptable,
but
but
what
is
considered
nominal
for
a
100
000
person
community
with
a
college
challenge
like
those
are
things
like?
I
just
don't
know
the
answer.
Are
we
twice
that
rate
or
we
have
so
those
sorts
of
extra
pieces?
I
think
really
build
the
context
around
the
data
which
I
think
builds
on
a
little
bit
of
what
nicole
was
saying.
C
Is
it's
hard
to
sort
of
see
it
individually,
but
the
context
and
the
sphere
of
that
causal
relationships
is
really
helpful.
So
I'm
hopeful
we
can
build
on
that,
because
that
will
give
me
a
better
understanding
of
where
we
can
impact
in
policy
that
couples
with
some
of
the
policing
and
law
enforcement
work
you're
doing
to
make
those
broader
impacts
in
our
community.
G
All
right:
well,
I
think
that
that
wraps
us
up
so
thanks
again,
very
much
chief,
harold
and
dr
reinhard
welcome
appreciate
the
analysis.
My
colleagues
did
ask
every
possible
question
that
I
could
have
had
the
follow-up
information
was
great,
so
I'll
echo,
the
thanks
of
everyone
and
also
looking
forward
to
some
of
the
additional
information
that
was
requested.
I
thought
those
were
some
great
requests
from
some
of
my
colleagues
to
dive
a
little
deeper
into
into
these
numbers
and
what
we
can
infer
from
them.
G
G
Great
ryan:
do
you
want
to
start
us
out
by
reading
out
our
guidelines.
L
We'll
do
absolutely
thank
you,
emily
for
bringing
up
those
slides
and
thank
you
to
all
of
the
members
of
the
community
here
joining
us
this
evening,
all
right,
emily,
we're
seeing
okay,
now
all
the
blocks
are
gone,
looks
clear.
Thank
you.
The
city
has
engaged
with
crew
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,
meaningful
and
inclusive
specific
conversations.
L
L
L
No
participant
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,
obscenity,
racial
epitaphs
and
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
meeting
are
prohibited
and
participants
will
sign
up
using
their
their
full
names
and
audio
testimony
is
only
allowed
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
G
Q
Hi
city
council,
can
you
hear
me
yes
great?
Thank
you
hi.
My
name
is
jerry
hack,
I'm
a
20-year
plus
resident
of
boulder.
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
things
tonight.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
request
that
when
people
at
open
comment
for
city
council
that
people
identify
themselves
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
boulder
residents-
and
I
would
really
prefer
that
only
boulder
residents
can
speak
at
open
comment.
Q
I
also
this
is
thank
you,
chief,
harold
for
really
and
dr
reinhart
for
an
excellent
presentation,
and
it
was
very
interesting
to
me
to
hear
the
city
council's
reactions
and
there
seemed
to
be
a
lot
of
cheering
for
the
fact
that
bike
theft
has
gone
down.
Well,
it
went
up
before
it
went
down.
Maybe
there's
no
more
bikes
to
steal
a
little
tongue
and
cheek
there,
but
also
there
seem
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
lot
of
cheering
for
the
fact
that
sexual
assault
is
rather
low
and
that's
great.
But
there's
I.
Q
Q
There
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
what
we
can
do
to
bring
the
crime
rates
down.
One
thing
we
could
do
is
open
the
jail.
Another
thing
we
could
do
is
stop
releasing
criminals
out
on
the
street
with
tickets
and
keep
stop
re-releasing
them
into
the
community
and
also
you
know.
To
be
honest,
I
heard
a
lot
of
I
heard
a
lot
of
victim
blaming
when
we,
when
on
a
city
council,
was
talking
about
the
presentation
by
dr
reinhard.
Q
You
know
just
because
someone
leaves
their
car
unlocked
or
doesn't
lock
their
bike
with
a
u-lock
doesn't
mean
that
they're
responsible
for
the
crime
happening
or
that
or
that
they
could
have
even
prevented
it.
I
mean
yeah,
you
shouldn't,
leave
your
car
unlocked,
but
that
doesn't
mean
you
deserve
to
have
your
car
stolen.
I
mean
I
see,
unlocked
cars.
I
see
people
leaving
their
purses
in
the
car.
I
see
people
leaving
their
purses
in
shopping
carts
in
the
grocery
store,
but
I
don't
steal
so
you
know
the
chief
spoke
of
community
harm.
Q
Q
I
heard
that
he
was
again
panhandling
at
mcguckin's
parking
lot
fairly.
Recently.
I
did
call
the
police-
and
I
also
posted
about
it
on
nextdoor
and
I'll.
Never
forget
one
person's
reaction
to
me
on
nextdoor
was
well.
He
seems
like
a
really
nice
guy
and
I'm
thinking
yeah
till
till
he
threatens
the
next.
G
AA
Okay,
can
you
hear
me.
AA
Okay,
I'll
start
I'm
a
boulder
homeowner,
but
I'm
witnessing
a
lot
of
long
time,
neighbors
selling
their
homes
and
moving
elsewhere,
and
I
really
think
that's
because
boulder
has
not
been
able
to
control
crime.
AA
All
policies
towards
criminal
activity
must
first
protect
the
public.
The
problem
with
boulder's
existing
approach
are
policies
that
protect
criminals
over
the
public.
What
I
call
the
get
out
of
jail,
free
card
that
revolving
door,
that's
criminals,
harm
the
public
and
they
get
right
back
out
to
reoffend.
So
who
are
the
repeat
offenders?
AA
First,
we
have
the
hardcore
criminal
element,
that's
basically
laughing
all
the
way
to
the
bank.
The
thought
that
this
crew
can
somehow
be
retrained
to
get
a
25
an
hour.
Job
is
not
tenable.
They
can
make
big
bucks
boosting
a
few
cars
a
week
and
flipping
those
to
the
local
gangs.
AA
AA
Finally,
we
have
a
seriously
addicted
encampment
crowd,
they
steal
and
support
a
habit
or
a
high
risk
for
being
violent
and
unpredictable.
Our
local
police
reports
are
full
of
this
group.
Terrorizing,
boulder
citizens,
assault
and
felony
menacing
have
grown
to
be
common
and
home.
Invasions
are
now
a
thing.
What
protects
most
voter
rights
from
all
of
this,
the
thankless
job
of
the
boulder
police
department
and
chief
herald.
However,
their
hands
have
been
tied
by
jail,
reform
being
pushed
by
the
city
council,
the
municipal
judges
and
prosecutors,
and
the
county
sheriff
the
solution.
AA
AB
Murphy
I've
lived
in
boulder
52
years.
This
presentation
is
about
boulder
climate
action,
continuing
to
ignore
wind
source
and
wrecks.
My
previous
presentations
prove
that
the
utility
occupation
tax
is
a
carbon
tax
and
that,
over
time,
boulder
has
collected
over
88.2
million
dollars
in
carbon
taxes,
and
more
than
half
of
that
was
never
used
for
real
carbon
reduction,
and
the
four
million
dollars
of
carbon
tax
is
collected
each
year
and
not
used
for
carbon
reduction
could
enable
all
boulder
residences
and
businesses
to
be
100
percent
renewables.
Today,
using
one
source
incentives.
AB
Not
once
has
anyone
mentioned
wind
source
incentives
in
any
of
the
excel
partnership
meetings.
Renewable
energy
certificates
also
known
as
rex,
have
been
denigrated
by
boulder
and
that's
ludicrous
wrecks
stimulate
the
renewables
industry
and
we
should
be
buying
them
directly
now
to
meet
our
climate
goals.
AB
The
denigration
of
rex
is
an
ongoing
propaganda
relic
of
the
failed
muni
effort
is
the
critical
flaw
of
the
climate
tax
for
residential
users
missing
the
fact
that
all
those
with
solar
or
wind
source
will
pay
nothing
or
a
small
fraction
of
the
tax.
Many
users
in
the
future
could
buy
wind
source
and
pay
a
fraction
of
the
still
regressive
tax,
and
the
rest
would
have
an
ever
increasing
tax
burden.
AB
AC
Can
you
hear
me
good
greetings,
thank
you
for
your
attention.
I'm
julie,
mccabe
and
I
live
on
arapahoe
avenue
and
I've
emailed
these
questions
to
city
council
members,
state
law
directs
police
to
issue
misdemeanor
summonses
to
persons
in
possession
of
less
than
four
grams
of
schedule,
one
and
two
drugs
with
diversion
which
means
no
jail
via
county
drug
court.
Sentences
for
probation
rehabilitation
and
community
service
are
boulder
police
issuing
these
summonses
in
significant
numbers.
AC
If,
yes,
will
the
city
publish
data
including
number
of
summonses,
issued
the
incident
location,
diversion
entered
by
the
county
court
and
if
the
diversion
was
successfully
completed?
If
the
answer
is
no
police,
aren't
writing
a
significant
number
of
summonses
for
possession
of
less
than
four
grams
of
drugs.
Why
not
to
be
clear
after
my
talking
with
police
city
bureaucrats
and
boulder
county
legislatures
and
looking
at
available
records,
my
concern
is
these:
summonses
are
not
being
written
by
the
police
and
therefore
no
diversionary
sentences
for
drug
addicts
are
occurring
as
contemplated
by
state
statute.
AD
AD
It's
been
two
years,
you
know
like
what
doesn't
this
community
get
about
this
and
two
minutes.
We
have
45
minutes.
We
have
more
people
in
boulder
now
than
ever
and
three
minutes.
Each
is
just
fine,
especially
when
you're
less
than
45
minutes.
So
please,
I
don't
want
to
implore
you
or
beg
you.
You
know,
but
th.
This
just
makes
practical
sense.
AD
The
costs
in
this
community
are
going
up,
medicare
just
went
up
21.60
a
month.
My
water
bill
just
went
up
15
a
month
starting
october.
AD
My
utility
bill
has
gone
way
up.
We
do
need
to
municipalize.
AD
AD
We
aren't
strong
against
a
serial
shooter
that
came
here
from
syria
when
he
was
three
years
old
in
terrible
conditions
over
there,
and
you
know
now:
we've
got
a
world
war
coming
on
us,
so
I
just
wonder
if
people
could
be
more
curious,
like
do
you
know
anything
about
victoria
newlin
and
how
she
did
a
coup
in
ukraine
in
2014
like
find
out
about
these
things,
because
it's
more
than
just
another,
you
know
communist.
I.
G
Apologize,
your
time
is
up,
but
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
Michelle
rodriguez
has
sent
it,
but
I
don't
believe
she's
here,
we'll
check
back
again
at
the
end
of
the
list,
so
darren
o'connor,
katie
lear
and
you
have
mon
jack.
AE
Hi
council,
darren
o'connor,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
naacp
boulder
boulder
police
department,
recently
publicly
released
data
on
officer
use
of
force
shortly
before
it
was
required
to
do
so
under
the
settlement
agreement
with
mr
lawrence.
This
came
due
to
mr
lawrence's
pain
and
suffering
and
shouldn't
be
called
transparency.
AE
AE
The
chief's
claim
is
on
its
face,
false
with,
in
with
the
information
the
city
and
police
released
under
the
settlement.
It's
clear.
The
data
is
there
officer
lolita
in
that
data
stood
out
like
a
sore
thumb
for
using
force
nearly
10
times,
as
often
as
the
average
officer
it's
time
for
real
transparency
and
sharing
of
information
about
all
of
our
officers
and
is
clear.
It
is
clear
that
that's
possible
the
mechanism
chief
herald
is
bemoaning
a
lack
of
is
transparency.
N
H
While
I
feel
very
sorry
for
the
people
of
ukraine,
I
feel
a
whole
lot
more
sorry
for
the
people
of
boulder
who
are
living
in
a
crime
wave
that,
as
I
listen
to
the
presentation
by
chief
harold
and
the
phd
reinhard,
you
guys
all
seem
to
be
in
a
state
of
disbelief
at
what
you
have
created.
I
mean
it's
really
rather
shocking
I've
written
to
most
of
you
in
the
past.
I've
only
gotten
a
response
from
bob
yates
he's
the
only
one
who
ever
had
the
courtesy
or
decency
to
respond.
H
So
what
I've
learned
as
a
member
of
this
community
is
that
local
government
is
supposed
to
be
responsive.
You
guys
are
not
responsive.
You
are
not
paying
attention
to
how
upset
the
people
of
boulder
are
you're
sitting
here,
quibbling
with
chief
harold
over
the
statistics
and
the
data
she's
14
down
in
police
force.
H
I
didn't
hear
one
question
from
any
of
you
about
how
you're
going
to
replace
her
her
police
force.
I
had
an
employee
who
had
his
truck
stolen
all
his
tools
and
then
I
have
to
see
a
presentation
by
judge
cook
telling
about
the
great
policies
you've
done
to
help
the
people,
some
of
whom
are
creating
these
crimes.
H
So
what
are
you
going
to
do
for
the
citizens
of
boulder?
I
I
would
like
to
hear
a
rigorous
conversation
about
what
your
plan
is
to
protect
the
people
who
live
in
boulder
who
pay
your
salaries,
some
of
whom
voted
for
you.
I
did
not
vote
for
you.
Having
said
that,
I'd
like
to
hear
a
rigorous
conversation
on
what
good
the
people
in
colorado
have
gotten
from
the
law
that
reduced
the
holding
of
narcotics
to
a
misdemeanor.
H
N
AF
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
my
name
is
you
have
manjak
and
I've
been
part
of
the
hospitality
community
in
boulder
for
the
past
16,
almost
17
years,
and
today,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
colorado
restaurant
association
of
the
boulder
chapter.
AF
I
know
that
we're
jumping
in
ghana
a
little
bit
because
you
have
a
study
session
for
the
upcoming
patio
expansion,
but
we
figured
might
as
well
reach
out
to
you
a
little
bit
ahead
of
time.
AF
AF
We
know
that
downtown
specifically,
but
the
hospitality
restaurant
industry
as
a
whole
is
a
vibrant
part
of
our
city
and
what
really
attracts
tourism
here
and
what
support
retail
in
downtown
so
we're
the
cra
we'd
like
to
advocate
for
a
long-term
version
of
vision,
with
the
understanding
that
the
restaurant
and
hospitality
industry
aren't
looking
for
a
handout,
but
rather
a
partnership
to
steer
our
industry
back
to
healthy
business
practices.
AF
We
would
like
for
you
to
consider,
as
you
are
entering
your
study
session
on
march,
8th,
that
expanding
the
patio
serves
as
a
lifeline
for
restaurants
during
the
worst
two
years
in
living
memory,
providing
extra
revenues
and
a
way
to
keep
our
staff
employed.
We
need
this
program
available
for
restaurant
community
without
incurring
new
additional
costs
through
at
least
october
of
2022.
In
order
for
us
to
use
these
revenues
and
as
an
effective
economy
to
recover.
AF
The
idea
in
general
is
that
what
we
are
advocating
for
is
to
allow
us
to
continue
the
current
program.
While
you
keep
on
debating
on
a
long-term
solution,
so
we
can
actually
plan
ahead
for
the
expenditures,
for
the
expenditures
are
bound
to
come
and
please
consider
using
federal
funds
in
order
to
support
this
program
and
make
it
affordable
and
accessible.
G
N
AG
Hi,
my
name
is
shelby
and
I'm
a
resident
of
boulder
and
a
student
at
the
university
of
colorado
law
school.
I'm
commenting
in
support
of
resolution
1301,
which
concerns
a
site.
I
had
an
opportunity
to
visit,
along
with
all
other,
affordable
housing
efforts,
there's
a
clear
need
for
affordable
housing
in
boulder,
where
the
cost
of
living
is
already
high
and
covett
has
exacerbated
the
issue
state
and
national
actions
to
increase
affordable
housing
options.
In
light
of
these
recent
events
further
demonstrate
the
magnitude
of
this
crisis.
AG
For
instance,
the
state
of
colorado
has
proposed
to
dedicate
400
million
dollars
of
federal
relief
funds
to
affordable
housing.
Thus,
this
development
should
be
a
priority
and
more
economically
feasible.
The
existable,
affordable.
The
existing,
affordable
housing
developments
in
boulder
are
high
quality
residences
that
beautify
the
community
and
enhance
the
livelihoods
of
lower
income
citizens
in
boulder,
in
fact,
they're
hardly
distinguishable
from
neighboring
non-affordable
housing
developments.
AG
This
value
is
codified
in
the
inclusionary
housing
provisions,
providing
that
inclusionary
housing
is
necessary
to
preserve
diverse
housing
opportunities
for
the
city's
residents
and
working
people,
as
well
as
promoting
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
the
community
from
a
practical
standpoint.
Doing
so
will
ensure
that
boulder
can
maintain
a
robust
workforce
and
reduce
the
detrimental
environmental
effects
of
transportation
for
those
who
remain
employed
in
boulder
and
are
forced
to
live
elsewhere.
AG
As
a
final
note,
I
hope
the
city
considers
constructing
the
new
development
with
upcycled
materials,
as
it
did
in
the
nearby
spark
neighborhood
making
boulder
more
accessible
and
not
cost
prohibitive
is
crucial
to
uphold
our
community's
values,
and
I
urge
city
council
to
adopt
resolution
1301.
Thank
you.
AH
Hi
everybody.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
wonderful,
hi,
everybody,
I'm
edwin
toe
owner
of
zomama
restaurant
in
kamea,
ramen,
located
on
tinden
pearl.
I
am
proud
to
be
a
part
of
the
west
pearl
business
community
for
over
a
decade,
and
I
am
proud
to
be
one
of
very
few
minority
owned
businesses
in
downtown.
AH
AH
AH
In
addition,
the
street
closure
has
made
wet
west
pearl
that
used
to
be
vibrant
at
night
to
be
ghostly
vacant,
so
much
so
that
both
soma
hawaii
and
chimera
ramen
have
closed
as
early
as
8pm
westpro
is
a
special
and
distinct
business
district
different
from
the
pedestrian
mall
in
east
pearl.
We
invest
our
time
and
money
into
our
businesses
in
west
pearl
because
of
the
accessibility
it
provided,
which
pearl
street
mall
lacked.
We
respectfully
request
the
city
to
restore
west
pearl
accessibility
as
soon
as
possible.
AH
Speaking
for
myself,
I
am
opposed
to
implementation
of
outdoor
dining
pots
for
west
pearl,
because
one
street
pods
will
further
limit
west
pearl
accessibility.
Two.
It
does
not
make
economic
sense
to
invest
in
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
increase
seeding
capacity
when
we
can't
even
fill
the
seeds
that
we
do
have,
and
lastly,
they
are
unfair
to
retail
merchants
in
small
restaurants
like
mine
as
pods,
are
only
for
for
the
benefit
of
restaurants,
with
deep
pockets
at
the
expense
of
accessibility
to
our
community.
Thank
you.
AI
AI
The
outdoor
dining
program
was
a
great
solution
to
get
customers
to
come
downtown
to
support
restaurants
when
there
was
limited
inside
dining
available
during
the
pandemic,
with
the
pandemic
over
and
restrictions
lifted.
This
is
solving
a
problem
that
doesn't
exist
anymore,
furthermore,
is
creating
a
perception
that
westperl
is
not
accessible
and
has
a
perception
emphasis
on
perception
of
no
parking,
which
has
become
a
reality.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
In
addition,
traffic
counts
are
suffering
during
weekdays
monday
through
thursdays,
lunches
and
dinners
with
office
closures
and
a
perception
of
inaccessibility
and
no
parking
west
pearl
is
becoming
a
ghost
town.
Thank
you
guys
for
your
continued
support
and
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
on
this
program.
N
G
You
jane
right,
that's
everybody,
as
I
understand
that
michelle
rodriguez
is
still
not
present.
So
do
we
have
any
staff
responses,
nory
entries,
it's
anything
you
know
in
common,
they
see
none
any
council
responses,
see.
We've
got
one
from
nicole
and
then
rachel.
M
Thank
you
thanks.
Everybody
for
speaking
to
us,
so
late
always
appreciate
that.
I
just
wanted
to
address
a
couple
of
things
that
were
mentioned
during
open
comment.
One
was
a
statement
that
the
jail
has
closed.
The
jail
is
open,
daily
bookings
are
actually
published
online.
I
think
the
report
from
yesterday
showed
that
about
a
dozen
people
were
booked
into
the
jail
yesterday,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
folks
are
clear
on
that.
M
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
address
was
the
types
of
issues
that
community
court
deals
with
just
so
that
folks
know
what
this
program
is
going
toward,
which
just
feels
important
as
we're
kind
of
talking
about
this
program
and
its
successes,
it
really
doesn't
involve
people
who
engage
in
crimes
like
vehicle
thefts,
vehicle
thefts
would
not
be
prosecuted
in
a
municipal
court.
I
think
that
would
be
more
of
a
district
court
or
state
court.
Even
in
cases
where
you
know,
people
are
just
hot
wiring
cars
and
enjoy
writing
in
them.
M
That
is
not
something
that
the
community
court
would
would
be.
Addressing
the
community
court,
as
judge
cook
was
mentioning,
was
really
addressing
things
like
smoking,
where
it's
prohibited
or
urinating
in
public
or
things
things
like
that
that
aren't
really
kind
of
property
crimes
where
people
are
stealing
things
so
again,
not
to
you
know
dismiss
any
of
the
impacts
of
the
crimes.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
clear
on
what
the
community,
what
types
of
crimes
the
community
court
is
dealing
with.
K
I
just
have
a
question
from
everything
that
I've
heard
from-
I
guess
some
of
the
members
of
the
business
community
about
the
pandemic
being
over
and
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
a
sound
statement,
but
I
think
my
question
relates
to
the
pearl
street
mall
and
I
understand
now
these
businesses
want,
you
know
the
unrestricted
access.
So
my
question
is:
has
there
been
some
type
of
a
survey
to
ensure
businesses
either
want
this
or
don't
want
it?
I
know
the
last
time
we
talked
about
this
particular
issue.
We
were
considering
making
it
permanent.
K
D
I'm
happy
to
respond
real,
quick
if
you'd
like
mayor-
and
I
know
that
chris
jones
is
watching
and
unable
to
be
with
us
for
the
moment,
but
I'll
just
say
briefly
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
that
next
week
there
was
in
fact
a
survey
sent
out
and
the
topic
is
going
to
be
revisited
at
the
study
session.
So
there
will
be
a
lot
of
conversation
about
this
very
topic.
K
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
aaron.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
these
community
members
who
came
forward
because
a
lot
of
times
on
council.
We
have
ideas
and
we
have
ideas
that
have
worked.
But
until
we
hear
from
you
we
don't
know
if
things
are
not
working.
So
it's
it's
very
enlightening
for
me
to
hear
that
not
everyone
in
the
west
pearl,
not
every
business,
is
in
the
west
pearl
in
in
and
on
pearl
street,
actually
find
this
particular
arrangement
beneficial.
AJ
P
Yeah,
that's
well
said
juni.
I
appreciate
the
perspective
as
well.
I
wanted
to
ask
nuria,
maybe
or
maris,
if
she's
still
on
julie,
mccabe
has
reached
out
a
number
of
times
and-
and
I
know
asked
the
same
question
to
a
lot
of
us
so
just
wondered
if
somebody
could
commit
to
to
you
know
sort
of
responding,
you
know:
are
those
tickets
being
written?
I'm
I'm
curious.
If
there's
a
reason
to
that,
you
know
whether
whether
we
are
or
not
writing,
tickets
and.
D
I
don't
believe
maris
is
on
anymore,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
take
a
look
and
make
sure
that
somebody
gets
back.
P
Thank
you,
and,
and
also
just
wanted
to
flag.
You
know,
I
think
it's
been
a
a
difficult
week,
as
we
said
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
on
on
ukraine,
and
you
know
a
war
that
we
never
thought
would
happen
on.
You
know
a
ground
war
on
europe
in
soil
during
our
lifetimes,
and
I
would
just
encourage
us
to
to
shy
away
from
false
equivalencies
that
what's
happening
in
boulder
might
be
similar
to
what's
happening
in
ukraine,
because
that's
that's
some
troubling
to
hear
and
we're
not
nothing.
P
That's
happening
in
boulder
is
like
what
the
people
are
suffering
through
in
ukraine,
so
I
would
just
for
my
part,
hope
that
that
we
can
just
stay
away
from
from
that,
because
there
are
people
who
are
truly
deeply
suffering
thanks.
G
I
N
G
P
Did
I'm
sorry,
I
was
a
little
slow
pulling
up
my
notes
here,
but
I
think
on
item
3b
is
a
motion
to
amend
the
transit
village
area
plan,
and
this
is
one
of
two
spots
where
I
was
confused
about
you
know.
Tab
may
be
weighing
in
it
was
heavily
transportation.
P
P
I
would
just
hope
even
for
things
that
were
maybe
you
know
caught
in
that
in
the
you
know,
middle
time
before
we
switched
to
flagging
things
that
might
want
to
go
over
to
tab,
which
may
or
may
not
be
relevant
for
this
particular
item
but
is
going
to
be
under
the
call-up
check-ins.
Both
I
think
one's
concept
and
one
is
site
and
and
in
either
spot.
Do
I
see
like
that
that
flashing
light
that
I
was
hoping
for,
we
would
get
for.
Like
don't
forget,
you
might
want
tab
to
weigh
in
on
something.
P
So
I
guess
relevant
to
3b
and
and
to
4b
like
just,
can
tab
win
when's
the
right
time
nasa,
so
I.
G
C
Are
you
saying
mark
I
mean
I
was
going
to
call
a
queen
on
that
just
because
I
had
asked
that
I'd
asked
that
via
email
and
similar
question-
and
it
was,
it
was
conveyed
to
me
that
at
least
through
transportation
that
there
was
at
least
no
conflicts
with
regards
to
our
planned
can
proposal,
which
was
a
cons
concern
I
had,
and
that
seemed
to
be
well
vetted,
that
this
would
impede
on
those
plans
that
we've
embarked
on.
C
G
Thanks
man
erica
you
want
to
chair
me.
U
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
guess
just
as
point
of
clarity.
The
planning
and
development
services
department
is
responsible
for
not
only
you
know,
for
reviewing
the
plans
and
making
and
proposing
changes
to
them
the
transportation
mobility
department,
just
as
the
utilities
department,
we
act
as
internal
consultants,
and
so
for
this
particular
case.
I
see
that
edward
is
on
so
thank
you.
U
The
plan
at
tvapp
actually
has
a
process
in
place
in
which
to
update
the
plan
itself,
and
so
that
process
was
followed
by
my
colleagues
in
development,
services,
planning
and
development
services,
but
with
the
input
from
the
transportation
department,
and
one
of
the
things
is
that
at
the
last
tab
meeting
alex
weinhammer
a
tab
member
had
identified
that
the
issue
was
coming
before
the
planning
board,
but
had
chosen
not
independently
to
comment
at
that
point.
U
But
what
I
did
do
is
to
go
back
and
ensure
that
nothing
in
the
in
the
cat
and
in
the
can
network
would
be
impacted
negatively
by
the
changes
being
proposed.
So
just
wanted
to
assure
council
about
that
and
edward
did.
You
have
anything
further
to
say
from
your
standpoint.
AJ
AJ
So
that's
how
we've
looked
at
it
and
to
ensure
that
it
still
has
options
for
the
future
and
in
fact
we
felt
it
was
important
to
bring
forward
this
current
one
to
support
the
needs.
Otherwise
the
project
would
have
to
implement.
What's
in
the
current
plan,
which
includes
an
area
of
on-street
parking
that
could
cause
challenges
with
future
desires
on
30th
street.
So
that
was
part
of
our
justification
to
bringing
this
forward.
P
I
appreciate
that
and
it
may
be
that
no
one
else
is
interested
in
it.
I
just
think
that
tab
generally,
has
you
know,
sort
of
thinks
through
things
and
in
a
way
that
that
I
find
helpful
alongside
transportation
staff,
so
it
you
know
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
dig
on
anyone
or
planning
or
transportation
departments.
P
I
just
I
think
that
they
that
they
often
have
a
perspective
that
I
value,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
were
to
if
there
even
is
a
path
to
kicking
this
over
to
them
just
for
last
set
of
eyes
before
we
act
on
it.
If
that
causes
delays-
or
you
know
to
edward's
point
like-
is
that
then
kind
of
baked
in
in
a
way
that
we
don't
want
it
to?
If
we
were
to
do
that
and
again,
that's
that's
even
assuming
that
there
were
other
people
that
wanted
to
do
it.
AK
Sure
I'd
be
happy
to
thanks
for
the
question
aaron.
It
certainly
will
add
some
time
to
the
process.
We
have
a
condition
of
approval
in
the
site,
review
document
that
requires
amendment
to
the
tbap
plan
in
advance
of
the
submittal
of
the
tech
doc
review.
AK
AK
If
the,
if
tab,
you
know,
affirmed
the
planning
board's
position
and
found
that
the
amendment
to
the
tbat
plan
was
suitable,
then
we'd
be
able
to
go
back
directly
to
council
for
final
action,
but
it
would
add
some
time
to
the
process.
It
just
depends
on.
You
know
really
how
it
pans
out.
C
It
is
just
it's
a
process
kind
of
just
question
really
is.
It
would
be
really
helpful
for
memos
that
come
to
us
that
are
impacting
clearly
impacting
transportation
that
effectively.
You
know
the
commentary
that
that
erica
just
provided
be
provided
in
that
memo,
because
that
might
quell
a
bunch
of
questions
up
front
in
terms
of
we
got
planning
weighing
in
on
transportation,
where
did
transportation,
staff
or
tab
so
that
clarity
up
front,
I
think,
would
be
really
helpful
as
we
talk
as
planning
does.
C
Does
talk
about
transportation
related
things,
so
just
maybe
a
future
reference
that
I
think
that
might
help
clean
up
a
bunch
of
stuff
on
the
front
end.
If
that
doesn't
add
too
much
extra
work,
but
but
just
a
little
bit
of
clarity
could
help
can
go
a
long
way.
G
So
well
maybe
I'll
just
call
him
on
myself
here
I
really
appreciate
rachel
you
and
matt
both
raising
these
questions
in
advance
and
tonight.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
the
transportation
issues
are
looked
at
carefully.
I
appreciate
that
that
eric
and
the
transportation
department
did
sign
off
on
this.
I
guess
I'll
just
say
that
I
I
worry
about
the
potential
for
significant
delays
on
the
ability
to
move
forward
with
the
fire
station.
G
It
sounds
like
we
might
have
to
take
a
whole
another
turn
through
planning
board,
and
then
I
worry
a
little
bit
about
staff
time
as
well.
Their
planning
department,
as
we
know,
is
very
very
busy.
These
days
has
a
limited
capacity,
so
I
just
I
I
personally
wouldn't
take
that
extra
step,
but
I
think
we
need
to
keep
raising
these
questions
about.
You
know
how
do
we
get
assistance
from
from
tab
and
and
and
include
them
on
more
of
the
concept
plans?
And
such
you
got
your
hand
up.
D
I
know
that
we
had
talked
about
this
previously
about
involving
tab
at
the
concept
plan
stage
and
what
does
that
look
like
and
to
have
that
mechanism
by
which
staff
would
put
that
in
a
memo
and
say:
hey,
council,
here's
an
opportunity
for
you
to
send
to
tab,
and
so
just
want
to
be
thoughtful,
as
we
continue
to
think
through
that
in
our
own
work,
because
some
of
these
did
get
caught
in
that
change
that
we're
more
rigorous
as
we
move
forward,
and
we
share
that
and
matt.
D
I
take
your
point
as
well.
I
want
to
say
that
it's
I
I
saw
your
email
about
it
and
I
think
it's
a
really
thoughtful
comment
about
making
sure
that
we
voice
when
we
have
consulted
with
our
respective
boards,
whoever
they
are
right
and
so
building
that
into
some
of
our
future
memos,
I
think,
will
be
an
improvement
that
we
can
certainly
factor
in
so
just
wanted
to
say
that
out
loud.
P
Thanks
for
that,
noria,
I-
and
I
don't
know
like
this-
isn't
coming
to
us
as
a
concept
or
site
so
like
I
don't
know
how
this
would
get
folded
into
that.
I
think
that's
another
piece
that
isn't
covered
right.
This
would
be
sort
of
outside
the
scope
of
what
we've.
D
It
would
be,
and
maybe
what
we
really
need
to
do
is
just
again
clarify
the
process.
I
know
we
had
a
conversation
about
this
last
year.
I
know
that
there
is
additional
thought
about
this
with
the
new
council
coming
on
board,
and
so
maybe
we
just
need
to
spend
some
more
time
and
come
with
a
clear
with
a
clear
process
as
we
move
forward,
taking
into
account
as
well
what
the
general
scope
is
of
each
of
the
boards
at
play,
but
certainly
I
think
it's
a
conversation
to
be
had
well.
P
I
think
under
charter
they're
they
can't
look
unless
invited
and
planning
board's
always
going
to
look
and
that's
not
going
to
have
the
same
transportation.
You
know
planning
staff
we'll
look
at.
We
also
get
planning
board,
I
think,
with
it's
so
heavy
in
transportation.
We
want
that
mechanism
to
work
so
aaron.
I
appreciate
your
point.
I
will
not
push
this
further
to
cause
delay,
but
would
love
if,
if
the
system
starts
working
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
that
look
thanks.
G
I
appreciate
the
flexibility,
rachel
and
I'll
just
add
the
there
that
it's
a
good
point,
that
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
in
the
future,
we
should
consider
you
know
adding
a
check
in
with
tab
to
our
process.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
flag.
G
Y
I
I
AD
I
N
P
K
I
Yes,
sir
item
4a
on
tonight's
agenda
is
the
consideration
of
a
concept
plan,
review
and
comment
for
a
proposal
to
develop
a
multi-family
residential
project
at
3300
penrose
place.
The
existing
three-story
building
on
the
site
is
proposed
to
be
retrofitted
for
apartments,
with
four
new
buildings
proposed
and
a
total
of
114
permanently
affordable
dwelling
units.
The
residential
units
are
planned
to
include
efficiency,
living
units
and
one
and
two
bedroom
apartments.
This
is
reviewed
under
case
number,
lur
2021-0044.
G
I
All
right,
our
next
one
is
item
4b
on
tonight's
agenda
is
a
consideration
site
review
application
for
a
new
city
of
boulder
fire
station
number
three
located
at
2751
and
2875
30th
street.
The
fire
station
is
proposed
to
include
four
apparatus:
bays
administration
offices,
exercise,
meeting
dining
and
living
room
spaces,
along
with
bunk
rooms
for
firefighters
and
administrative
offices,
site
improvements
include
landscaping
parking
with
a
55
parking
reduction
along
with
a
planned
new
buff
street
connection.
This
is
reviewed
under
case
number,
lur
2021-0017.
AG
AL
Members
good
evening,
everyone,
I'm
gonna,
just
share
the
screen,
so
bear
with
me
for
a
moment.
So,
as
we've
talked
about
a
little
bit,
this
particular
case
went
before
the
planning
board
just
a
couple
weeks
ago
and
so
in
terms
of
process
and
where
we
are
this
evening.
It's
important
to
note
that
the
concept
plan
was
reviewed
in
2020
end
of
the
year
2020
and
then
council
did
not
call
it
up.
AL
The
site
review
is
required
because
the
proposal
for
a
greater
than
50
parking
reduction
does
necessitate
planning
board
determination.
So
it
was
february
17th.
Last
month
the
board
reviewed
the
application
unanimously
approved
it,
along
with
the
change
to
the
tvap
streetscape
guidelines
that
we've
talked
about,
and
then
the
board's
decisions
subject
to
call
up
by
council
within
30
days
and
that
ends
on
march
21st
of
this
month.
AL
So
as
a
quick
recap
of
the
information
planning
board
reviewed,
starting
with
the
site
location
for
the
new
fire
station,
it's
located
on
30th
near
belmont,
and
it
is
intended
to
replace
the
existing
fire
station.
That's
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
arapahoe
30th.
So
really
just
a
few
miles
to
the
south.
AL
Fire
stations
are
considered
critical
facilities
under
the
city's
code
and
because
the
current
location
is
in
a
high
hazard,
you'll
see
that
in
pink
high
hazard
flood
zone
it
could
make
access
a
bit
more
challenging
in
a
flood
event,
and
so,
in
addition,
it's
acknowledged
that
the
current
fire
stations
outdated
and
inefficient,
undersized
and
partial
funding
for
the
replacement
of
the
station
was
actually
included
in
the
2017
community
culture
and
safety
tax
and
then,
regarding
the
planning
context.
The
1.85
acre
site
has
a
comprehensive
plan.
AL
AL
Two
of
tvapp
that
you
see
on
the
left,
transit
village
area
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2007
to
guide
redevelopment
for
this
area
surrounding
the
transit
and
essentially
to
transform
what
was
an
underutilized
industrial
and
auto
oriented
area
into
a
more
urban
and
higher
density,
pedestrian,
oriented
environment
with
a
mix
of
uses
and
as
part
of
tvap,
a
land
use
map
was
adopted,
shown
to
the
right
and
phase
two
of
pvap
was
initiated
with
the
2020
midterm
update
to
the
bvcpn.
AL
What
prompted
initiation
of
that
phase
two?
Is
that
phase
one
essentially
built
out
of
the
past
15
years,
and
it
was
guided
by
the
vision
and
goals
and
guidelines
of
tvapp
to
develop
this
new
neighborhood
that
we
all
are
aware
of
and
are
familiar
with,
and
approximately
1400
new
residential
units
were
built
just
under
300
of
those
are
permanently
affordable.
AL
This
image
shows
the
neighborhood
of
spark
on
the
north
boulder
commons
and
in
the
center
30
pearl
in
depot
square
with
the
regional
rtd
bus
facility
at
the
center
and
then
rev
on
the
south
and
the
buildout
of
phase.
One
also
included
construction
of
a
number
of
streets
for
the
tvap
connections
plan
that
was
also
adopted,
and
you
can
see
junction
place
from
prairie
on
the
south
was
built
all
the
way
through
to
belmont
on
the
north,
with
two
bridges
constructed.
AL
There
are
new
streets
that
include
31st
and
spruce
street,
there's
the
extension
of
bluff
street
and
a
number
of
alleys
and
paseos,
and
in
the
10
to
15
years
of
building
out
these
connections.
There
have
been
various
amendments
to
the
connections
planned
that
were
approved
as
part
of
and
as
provided
in
the
area
plan.
The
overall
intent
in
the
connections
plan
really
was
to
create
a
more
pedestrian
oriented
connectivity
and
essentially
break
up
superblocks
that
once
existed
there
and,
as
you'll
note
the
site
itself
on
the
left.
AL
There
has
several
connections
that
are
required
to
be
built
out
and
are
included
as
part
of
the
proposed
project
so
on
to
the
existing
site.
The
applicant's
proposing
about
a
28,
000
square
foot,
two-story
fire
station
with
administration
offices
and
then
the
four
large
operate
apparatus
bays
on
the
first
floor,
there's
also
training
and
fitness
meeting
rooms.
AL
Vehicle
access
and
circulation
is
in
a
one-way
configuration
into
the
site
and
that's
from
that
new
planned
bluff
street
extension
and
then
exiting
directly
onto
30th,
and
what
that
does
is
essentially
avoid
having
to
back
fire
apparatus
onto
30th
street.
And
so
it's
important
to
note
that
public
works
will
be
responsible
for
designing
and
constructing
the
new
vehicle
traffic
signal
for
bluff
and
30th
street
intersection.
AL
AL
The
goals
of
tvapp
on
the
left
also
support
the
placement
of
a
fire
station
near
the
transit
village,
then
touching
on
other
review
criteria
related
to
design
for
human
scale
and
there's
transparency
and
activity
at
the
street
level,
with
the
administration
office
planned
and
then
there's
public
art
and
landscape
and
deep
design,
details
that
will
add
pedestrian
interest
consistent
with
tbap
guidelines
and
then
there's
things
like
durable
materials
that
include
a
brick
that
has
an
extruded
brick
pattern.
AL
The
site
review
criteria
also
asks
if
the
building's
architecture
is
compatible
with
the
area
or
those
with
the
established
design
guidelines
and
then,
in
that
regard,
of
course,
planning
board
made
findings
that
the
project's
consistent
with
the
tvap
design
guidelines,
a
few
of
which
are
shown
here
that
also
speak
to
designing
to
a
pedestrian
scale
and
orientation.
AM
Yeah
hi
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
question
we
are
in
the
in
between
some
estimates.
Right
now.
As
you
know,
the
the
economic
climate
with
construction
is
very
difficult,
but
our
our
latest
number
is
at
18
million
dollars.
A
Okay,
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
hoping
it
would
come
in,
because
when
we,
when
we
looked
at
this,
that
the
we
were
doing
the
infrastructure
tax,
we
had
estimates
of
up
to
35
million
dollars
for
a
facility
and
that
would
have
simply
sucked
all
the
air
out
of
the
room
with
respect
to
other
unfunded
capital
needs.
So
I'm
very
happy
to
hear
that
you're
looking
at
something
closer
to
18
and
even
if
it
goes
over
to
something
like,
hopefully
not
more
than
20.
A
I
think
it's
a
number.
We
can
reasonably
bear.
N
P
And
lauren
well,
I
sure,
feel
like
a
broken
record
here,
but
we've
got
bus
route,
ramifications,
parking
reductions,
prize,
transit
corridor,
you
know
just
every
every
type
of
transit
consideration
here
did
tabway
in
did
we
invite
tab
to
win?
I'm
just
gonna.
We
asked
the
question.
AL
Staff
took
a
good
look
at
it.
I
know
that
tab
looked
at
tvapp
and
the
connections
plan
as
it
was
being
developed,
so
they
had
that
input
as
well-
and
I
don't
know
if
edward
has
anything
else
to
add
to
that.
But
I
guess
the
answer
is
no
tab
did
not
look
at
it.
P
That's
what
I
thought,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
and
then,
if,
if
we
wanted
to
invite
tab
to
weigh
in
at
this
stage,
what
would
that
look
like.
AL
AJ
And
certainly
speak
amp
up
and
then
I
know
hello.
I
was
also
here
from
the
attorney's
office
and
can
help
with
the
process,
but
I
presume
if
you
were
looking
for
that,
you
would
likely
need
to
call
it
up
and
provide
specifics
of
what
you
were
looking
for
tab
to
weigh
in
on
that,
then
the
council
could
consider
in
order
to
review
it
based
upon
the
criteria
for
site
review.
AJ
It's
important
to
point
out
that
this
is
a
land
use,
quadratic
judicial
application,
and
so
it
is
a
site
review
based
decision
or
a
criteria
based
decision.
Sorry
mixing
my
words
up
tonight.
It's
been
a
long
day.
Criteria
based
decision
staff
did
not
refer
to
tab
generally.
These
types
of
applications
is
not
a
part
of
the
purview
currently
listed
for
tab.
That
is
an
opportunity
for
council.
If
you
believe,
there's
something
that
they
should
weigh
in
on.
AK
And
I
didn't
emphasize
I
would
emphasize,
and
thanks
for
that,
I
would
emphasize
that
tab
did
have
a
lot
of
involvement
when
we
did
put
the
initial
connections
plan
together
for
tab-
and
you
know
per
the
call
up-
are
the
the
consent
agenda
conversation
we
had.
AK
It
definitely
will
tack
on
some
time
to
the
process.
It's
certainly
something
that
council
has
the
authority.
You
know
to
refer
to
tab,
but
we'll
have
to
take
another
crank
turn
at
the
crank
just
depending
on
the
direction
that
we
get.
O
Thank
you,
mine's
also
going
to
be
process
related.
So,
given
that
this
is
a
public
project,
you
know-
and
I
see
that
you
noted
two
2.4
from
the
older
comp
plan
about
public
projects
bearing
a
special
responsibility
to
exhibit
design
excellence.
O
I
really
I
like
the
design
of
this
building.
I
think
it's
great,
but
my
question
is:
has
design
advisory
board
had
a
chance
to
review
it?
It
does
seem
like
that
to
me
for
a
public
project,
especially
you
know
a
standalone
new
building
that
we
would
be
having
design
advisory
board
review,
that
for
a
city
project.
AL
AK
And
I
would
also
note
that
there
wasn't
a
referral
from
the
planning
board
to
dab
either
in
the
concept
plan
or
the
site
review.
I
think
they
felt
that
the
design
was
pretty
strong.
O
O
N
Y
Y
If,
if
that
opinion
is
requested
by
the
city
manager,
the
planning
board
or
the
city
council,
and
so
as
I
think,
I
think
it
was
charles
who
was
speaking
sad
planning
board,
didn't
refer
it,
but
certainly
city
council
has
the
authority
to
do
so.
That's
the
way
the
code
is
laid
out.
Q
A
Mark
yeah,
I'm
sorry
to
go
to
have
to
go
back
for
a
couple
of
questions.
I
just
didn't
ask
how
many
bids
you're
getting
on
this.
AM
So
last
summer,
based
on
what
we
were
seeing
in
the
construction
community,
we
we
transitioned
this
project
as
well
as
the
noble
library
project,
to
a
cmgc
delivery
method,
a
construction
manager,
general
contractor,
and
so
we
went
through
a
interview
and
rfp
process
and
selected
a
construction
firm
that
we
brought
on
board.
At
that
point,
who
has
been
advising
us
on
value,
engineering
and
material
selection
and
cost
to
keep?
AM
A
AM
G
Okay,
so
it
looks
like
that's
it
for
questions,
so
would
anyone
like
to
advocate
for
calling
this
up.
P
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
a
pitch
to
call
it
up
and
and
invite
dab
and
tab
to
weigh
in
I.
I
think
I
really
appreciated
lauren's
point
about
this
as
a
as
a
public
space
and
sort
of
a
little
bit
of
almost
a
lack
of
a
a
level
of
review,
because
we
are
the
applicant
and
the
reviewers.
So
I
appreciate
the
extra
eyes
on
and
I
just
think
again,
my
experiences
is
tabs
these
things
with
a
little
bit
of
fresh
eyes,
with
sort
of
especially
pedestrian
and
bike
considerations.
P
So
I
would,
I
would
love
to
have
their
input
before
we
finalize
this.
So
that's
my
that's.
What
I'd
call
it
up
and
direct
for.
G
A
G
Yes,
I'll
just
call
on
myself
that,
like
I,
I
totally
appreciate
rachel
where
you're
coming
from
the
point
you're
making.
The
concern,
I
would
have,
would
be
some
number
of
months
delay
on
an
already
expensive
project
with
a
city
staff,
that's
already
over
taxed
with
the
projects
that
they're
working
on.
So
that's
my
concern
because
I
feel
like
this
is
there
would
come
some
negative
consequences
for
the
organization
by
by
calling
it
out
would
be
my
concern.
G
M
Yeah,
I
would
be
interested
just
in
hearing
a
little
bit
more
about
what
you
know.
Staff
kind
of
thinks
about
that.
I
just
unfortunately,
don't
know
enough
about
what
kind
of
delays
that
we
put
in
place.
But
given
this
is
a
pretty
significant
new
public
building
in
a
really
kind
of
prominent,
heavily
trafficked
and
growing
area
of
town.
I
I
would
really
be
interested
in
having
a
little
bit
more
feedback
so,
and
I
think
just
some
of
the
discussions
and
questions
we
were
having
kind
of
felt
like
they
felt
like.
M
AK
Very
much
for
the
question.
I
think
it
really
depends
on
what
design
advisory
board's
feedback
would
be
if
there
are
significant
adjustments
to
the
building
that
need
to
be
made,
then
the
you
know,
cities,
architect,
you
know-
would
need
to
make
some
pretty
significant
changes
and
we
would
need
to
take
it
back
through
the
planning
board
to
ensure
it's
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
initial
approval.
M
And
I'm
just
aware
that
we
have
the
former
three-year
chair
of
design
advisory
board
here.
Who
can
perhaps
let
us
know
you
know
if
you
think
it's
something
that
they
would
have
significant
changes
on
or
anything
like
that.
O
I
mean
it's
always
hard
to
to
guess
what
people
are
gonna
comment
on,
but
I
mean
like
I
said.
I
think
that
this
building
is
generally
seems
to
me
really
strong.
So
I
personally
wouldn't
anticipate
large
changes,
but
you
know
design
advisory
board
does
look
at
things
differently
than
planning
board
does
so
things
around
the
articulation
of
the
windows,
and
you
know
some
cladding
details
and
things
about
that.
What
around
those
kinds
of
concerns
are
typically
things
that
design
advisory
board
would
review.
O
C
AM
Yeah,
I
think,
thank
you.
I
I
certainly
appreciate
and
understand
council's
concerns,
but
advocating
here
for
the
project
and
the
fire
department.
You
know
we
we
have
been
working
on
this
for
several
years.
AM
AM
The
fire
administration
is
currently
somewhat
homeless
and
on
borrowed
time
in
their
current
facilities,
where
they're
located
and
the
existing
station
being
in
the
flood
plain
you
know
is
subject
to
you
know
further
damage
and
delays.
You
know
the
further
we
go
on,
so
I
I
just
you
know,
I'm
obligated
to
point
out
those
concerns
that
we
have
for
the
project,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
know
your
thoughts
on
it.
I
do.
I
do
also
see
that
the
fire
chief
is
is
here.
If
there
are
any
other
questions
on
that.
G
Thanks,
I
mean
mike,
did
you
want
to
chime
in
and
then
we
can
hear
from
elaine.
E
Good
evening
council,
I
can't
my.
AN
E
Chief,
I
appreciate
all
the
dialogue.
I
can't
speak
to
the
process
other
than
I
can
confirm
with
what
adam
had
just
been
talking
about,
where
we're
we're
borrowing
space
for
our
headquarters
staff
once
we
vacated
center
green
to
save
on
the
lease
out
there
and
so
delays
on
getting
in
it.
It's
on
the
good
graces
really
of
the
county
and
county
chiefs
for
us
to
be
out
there
taking
up
space,
that's
just
impact
on
the
organization,
but
then
in
terms
of
our
master
plan
as
well.
E
You
know
this
is
a
this.
This
station
is
a
key
part
of
the
infrastructure
that
moves
us
forward
on
advancing
our
ems
goals,
around
advanced
life
support,
and
so
that
will
just
push
us
back.
We
planned.
We
were
hoping
anyway,
to
start
moving
into
that
station
for
those
units
in
2024
if,
if
things
all
go
wonderfully,
if,
if
they
don't,
then
that
just
pushes
us
down
a
little
farther,
we
lost
a
year
with
covid,
and
so
this
will.
This
is
just
another
delay
we'll
have
to
reassess
with
our
master
plan
goals.
C
So,
just
a
couple
comments
on
the
motion
that
rachel
made
and
some
of
the
comments
that
have
been
mentioned.
First,
I
I
think
this
is
acutely
critical
infrastructure
for
our
city
for
community
safety,
and
so
I
think,
process
delays
that
won't
necessarily
deliver
substantive
outcomes
and
not
to
prejudge
too
much.
But
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
concern.
C
I
have
to
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
done
expeditiously,
as
the
chief
pointed
out,
certainly
as
we
evolve
into
providing
als,
I
think
that's
a
fantastic
and
necessary
evolution
of
fire
and
rescue
here
in
boulder,
but
you
know,
given
that
I
I
agree
with
lauren.
We
should
future
projects
that
are
done
by
the
city
where
we
are
the
applicant,
I
think
dab
needs
to
take
a
role,
but
especially
given
that
our
resident
design,
expert
and
planning
said
this
has
great
design
elements.
C
I'm
not
sure
this
is
the
bite
at
the
apple
that
we
need
to
expend
that
on
and-
and
I
think
with
regards
to
transportation,
I
want
us
to
again
going
forward-
have
tab
review,
but
not
at
the
cost
of
expense
expedience
as
aaron
brought
out
and
plus.
This
is
a
great
chance
for
us
to
now
trust
staff.
Now
that
we
have
the
core
arterial
network
plan
in
place,
we
have
tab
staff
and
council
all
aligned
in
a
very
common
direction.
C
With
regards
to
some
of
our
major
transportation
work,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
time
for
us
to
then
coalesce
around
trusting
staff
that
we're
going
in
the
right
direction
and
given
erica's
comments.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
trust
that.
So
I
think
now
is
the
time
for
us
to
just
move
forward,
but
going
forward
on
future
projects
that
we
interject
those
those
nice
steps
in
the
process
for
tab
and
dab
as
well.
P
Yep
I'll
be
brief,
you
know,
I
imagine
that
we
could
send
it
to
dab
and
tab
and
say
you
know
if
you
can
look
at
this
in
the
next
30
days.
Please
do,
and
if
you
can't,
then
you
know
don't,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
to
build
in
some
sort
of
heinous
delay
for
this
to
be
looked
at.
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
the
only
way
it's
going
to
create.
You
know.
A
substantial
delay
is
if
some
of
the
feedback
required.
P
P
Delay
is
a
big
thing
in
the
scheme
of
things,
but
if
we,
you
know
fail
to
line
up
an
important
quarter
or
crossing
or
something
well,
then
then
we
regret
it,
and
we
have
seen
that
on
on
a
couple
of
occasions
during
my
tenure
where
tab
gave
feedback
kind
of
late
or
we
had
to
go
back
and
make
some
changes,
so
I
just
think
it
makes
sense
to
to
try
and
get
some
expeditious
feedback
and
maybe
make
you
know.
P
Maybe
I
would
amend
the
motion
to
say:
let's
kick
it
over
to
tab
and
ask
that
it
be,
you
know
and
dab
given
to
them
and
offer
to
them
within
the
next
week
if
they
can
fit
in
their
schedule
within
the
next
month
and
we'd
love
the
feedback
and
hopefully
it's
nothing
and
we
move
forward,
but
if
they
do
catch,
something
that
we're
that
they
haven't
we
haven't
had
our
experts
look
at.
I
think
it's
kind
of
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
and
with
that
I
won't
say
anymore.
M
I
just
wanted
to
thank
staff
and
chief
calderazo
just
for
giving
us
a
little
more
context
on
kind
of
the
the
importance
of
you
know
having
this
right
now.
I
think
I
I'm
feeling
a
little
torn
at
the
moment.
I
would
really
love
to
you
know,
use
our
boards
and
commissions
in
this
way
and
also
recognize
that
you
know
elaine.
As
you
said,
this
has
been
in
process
for
years
right.
M
It
wasn't
sort
of
brought
up
by
you
know
previous
council
and
I
think
there's
there
are
times
when
you
know
it's
worth
inserting
a
delay
and
perhaps
times
when
it's
not,
and
I'm
just
thinking
about
all
that
we're
approaching
in
the
climate
crisis
and
the
fire
that
just
happened
and
those
sorts
of
things
I'm
thinking
about
the
span
of
a
few
months
may
may
actually
make
a
difference,
but
anyway,
so
I
don't
really
have
any
clarity
there.
M
B
I'm
going
to
agree
with
matt
that
I
agree
with
you,
because
I
really
do
want
to
see
the
tab
and
dab
make
more
have
be
part
of
this
conversation
part
of
the
solution,
but
I
feel
like
if
they've
been
doing
this
for
years
and
now
we
as
the
new
council
come
in
and
say
well,
it's
the
last
minute,
but
you
know
that's
really
hard
to
do
for
city
process,
I
think
or
any
business
actually,
so
I'm
going
to
agree
with
matt
that
we
should
proceed,
but
I
want
to
start
including
them
on
the
future
projects.
B
D
S
Problem,
I'm
gonna
agree
with
aaron
and
matt
and
tara,
and
I
think
kind
of
nicole
in
that
I
I'm
not
gonna
support
a
call
up
here.
I
know
that
we've
got
new
rules
or
new
guidelines
around
evolving
tab
and
dab,
and
I
think
that's
great,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
apply
them
retroactively
here.
S
You
know
this
did
go
through
concept,
review
and
and
back
counsel,
which
some
of
us
served
on
chose
not
to
refer
this
to
those
parties,
then-
and
I
think
it's
a
little
late
in
the
game
for
us
to
to
do
that
now
and
to
delay
this,
and
I
appreciate
your
your
offer
rachel
of
30
days
or
something
short
like
that,
but
these
things
tend
to
slip
a
little
bit.
S
G
All
right
and
what
we
got
theresa.
Y
I
apologize
for
the
delay
in
getting
to
you
about
this,
but
I
do
have
some
legal
concerns
in
that
site.
Review
is
a
quasi-judicial
process.
That
means,
of
course,
there
are
a
set
of
criteria.
G
P
I
will
withdraw
because
I
I'm
counting
heads
here
so
that
I
I
will
not
make
us
go
through
that
fetal
motion.
G
Okay,
well
appreciate
your
your
flexibility
yet
again
tonight,
and
I
think
the
fundamental
point
is.
I
think
we
do
want
to
use
our
boards
more
often
earlier
in
the
process,
at
least
that's
my
takeaway
from
it,
and
I
continue
to
appreciate
the
focus
on
that
and
let's
keep
working
on
that
early
on
in
these
processes.
So
we
can
really
get
that
great
feedback.
G
Okay.
Well
with
that,
I
think
that
means
no
call
up
on
that
and
I'm
seeing
nine
o'clock
and
just
might
want
to
suggest
a
an
eight
minute
break.
What
do
you
all
think
I've
seen
some
thumbs
up
and
then
bob?
I
think
you
would
just
wait
to
come
back
right.
You
do
want
to
speak
to
your
recusal
yeah.
S
I'll
speak
right
now
I
I,
as
I
did
on
a
similar
ball
matter
a
few
weeks
ago,
I'm
going
to
recuse
myself
because
a
member
of
my
family
owns
some
stock
and
ball
and
so
I'll
take
the
break
along
with
you,
but
I
won't
return
at
the
end
of
break.
Go
ahead
and
start
without
me
and
aaron.
I
think
you're
going
to
send
me
a
text
when
that
matter
is
over.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
G
C
It
takes
a
new
meaning
to
business
on
top
party
on
the
bottom.
D
G
AO
I
guess
I
will
thank
you
alicia
good
evening,
council
members
tonight
we're
talking
about
the
second
reading
of
ordinance
8499.
My
presentation
is
going
to
be
brief.
Since
we
covered
this
material
on
february,
15th
city
council
did
pass
the
ordinance
on
first
reading
on
february
15th.
AO
So
I'm
just
going
to
cover
a
little
bit
of
the
context
really
quickly
we're
talking
about
a
roughly
27
acre
site
for
the
ball
aerospace
campus
along
arapahoe.
At
the
two
addresses
on
the
slide,
our
boulder
valley
conference
of
plan
land
use
designation
for
that
site
is
light
industrial,
so
the
the
use
that
they're
proposing
there
is
consistent
with
the
land
use.
It's
consistent
with
the
zoning
as
well,
which
is
industrial
general.
AO
As
we
talked
about
on
the
15th,
the
ig
zone
has
a
40-foot
height
limit
a
0.5
floor
area
ratio
maximum,
so
that
would
allow
up
to
577
000
square
feet
based
on
how
the
zone
is
is
drafted.
AO
So
we
talked
about
the
site
review
on
february.
15Th
city
council
did
not
call
up
the
site
review
at
that
meeting.
The
existing
square
footage
out
there,
just
to
summarize,
is
about
441
000
square
feet,
they're,
proposing
to
add
309
000
square
feet,
bringing
it
to
a
total
of
750
000
square
feet.
So
that's
a
0.65
far,
which
is
over
the
0.5
maximum
for
the
ig
zone,
they're
looking
to
develop
this
over
a
15-year
timeline,
as
we
stated
before.
AO
Obviously,
what
they're
producing
at
the
site
is
is
unique,
with
large
we're
actually
pretty
massive
spacecraft
that
require
crane
operations
and
very
large
vaulted
spaces
and
large
spaces
for
tests
for
testing.
So
ball
has
unique
needs
that
are
different
than
other
locations.
AO
They
have
security
requirements
that
they
have
to
meet
related
to
the
federal
government.
So
you
know
based
on
these
special
needs
and
considering
the
importance
of
ball
to
the
boulder
community,
we
did
present
the
option
of
doing
an
ordinance
that
would
allow
that
additional
square
footage
for
their
unique
needs.
So
this
ordinance
also
includes
an
allowance
to
convey
the
increased
commercial
linkage
fee
for
the
affordable
housing
fund.
So
we
have
this
mechanism
in
the
code,
but
it
really
focuses
on
square
footage.
AO
That's
just
above
that
height
limit
in
this
case,
they'd
be
going
above
the
0.5
far.
So
the
ordinance
would
say
that
that
all
that
additional
square
footage
would
they
would
have
to
pay
a
higher
rate
into
that
affordable
housing
fund.
The
ordinance
also
would
extend
the
validity
period
of
the
landmark
alteration
certificate
and
the
demolition
permits
for
the
hobart
wagner,
buildings
that
are
proposed
for
demolition.
AO
These
types
of
permits
and
the
certificate
have
a
180-day
timeline
that
has
has
to
be
renewed
if
they
don't
submit
a
permit
and
considering
how
long
the
the
15
years
would
go
on.
They'd
have
to
keep
reapplying
for
that.
So
that's
worked
into
the
ordinance
they're,
also
asking
for
vested
rights
greater
than
three
years,
which
requires
approval
of
an
ordinance,
so
any
ordinance
obviously
has
to
have
a
recommendation
by
planning
board
and
council
would
act
on
it.
AO
So,
as
we
stated
in
the
memo
and
as
I
talked
about
last
time,
staff
has
found
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
bvc
policies,
a
number
of
policies
that
are
up
on
the
slide
and
talked
about
in
detail
within
the
memo.
AO
AO
I
also
want
to
obviously
highlight
the
the
community
benefit
criterion
which
or
the
policy
that
would
be
met
by
the
additional
monies
going
into
the
affordable
housing
fund,
but
there
are
also
there's
also
some
policies
that
are
in
section
5
of
the
bvcp
that
talk
about
revitalizing,
commercial
and
industrial
areas
and
support
for
local
business
and
business
retention.
So
a
couple
quotes
from
policy
5.01
where
it
says:
incentivizing,
business
retention
through
changes
to
zoning
or
development
standards
and
incentives.
This
would
be
consistent
with
that
policy.
5.05
says
the
city
and
county
value.
AO
The
diverse
mix
of
existing
businesses,
including
primary
and
secondary
employers
of
different
sizes
in
the
local
economy,
nurturing
supporting
and
maintaining
a
positive
climate
for
the
retention
of
existing
businesses
and
jobs
is
a
priority.
So
we
again
feel
that
this
ordinance
is
consistent
with
that
and
that's
why
we
recommended
approval
of
it
and
planning
board
also
as
recommending
approval
of
the
ordinance
they.
They
voted
six
to
zero,
to
recommend
to
council
to
approve
it.
AO
They
also
added
an
additional
recommendation
on
a
vote
of
six
to
zero
that,
given
that
the
increase
of
employment
that
would
go
to
ball,
aerospace
would
largely
be
in
the
middle
income
category
that
council,
maybe
direct
the
housing
department
to
consider
some
of
those
funds
for
middle-income
housing.
AO
G
Thanks
so
much
carl
for
that
concise
and
informative
presentation,
questions
for
carl.
G
I
G
Wow
all
right,
I
don't
remember
the
last
time
we
had
a
public
hearing
with
no
one
signed
up.
Okay,
so
we'll
bring
this
back
to
council
for
discussion,
and
if
people
will
indulge
me,
I'm
gonna
start
off.
If
you
don't
mind-
because
I
have
this
idea
that
I've
mentioned
in
passing
before,
but
just
want
to
explain
it
to
folks,
I
do
support
this
ordinance.
I
think
ball
is
a
key
local
primary
employer
that
I
think
this
is
a
great
move
forward
for
them.
G
So
I
support
it
fundamentally,
but
I
did
notice
that
the
allowed
square
footage
and
the
0.65
far
was
exactly
the
square
footage
that
they're
requesting
or
that
has
already
been
approved
in
the
site
review.
My
thought
was
for
this
ordinance
to
include
allowance
of
0.7
far.
G
This
wouldn't
allow
them
today
to
build
anything
more,
but
it
means
that
in
the
15
years
that
they're
contemplating
this
project
that
if
they
wanted
to
do
a
minor
modification,
say,
add
a
thousand
or
two
square
feet
as
their
needs
developed
that
they
could
do
so
just
running
through
staff
and
playing
board
without
having
to
come
back
to
city
council,
to
revise
this
special
ordinance.
So
it
seemed
like
that.
Could
that
could
make
things
smoother
for
just
minor
changes
that
they
might
need
in
the
15-year
period
of
this
process?
C
I
I
100
support
that
you
know
having
worked
sort
of
peripherally
in
this
in
this
field
and
seeing
a
number
of
spacecraft
built.
They
continue
to
get
bigger
and
bigger,
and
so
you
know
the
needs
of
today
versus
the
needs
of
15
years
from
now.
I
think
change
in
the
in
the
game
of
astronomy,
astrophysics,
defense
and,
and
certainly
our
space
science
stuff
and
how
we
design
spacecraft.
So
I
think
that's
great
flexibility,
whether
they
use
that
that's
for
them
to
decide.
G
Seeing
that
if
people
don't
mind
if
I
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
since
I've
got
this
idea
that
I'm
moving
forward
here,
myself
so-
and
I
do
do
notice-
carl-
that
the
the
ordinance
does
contain
a
square
footage
as
well
as
an
far
in
it,
and
so
I
I
did
the
the
math
on
that
and
I
believe
the
0.7
far
would
equate
to
809
000
square
feet.
So
should
I
include
in
the
amendment
both
of
those
those
numbers.
AO
Yes,
I
mean
if
we
change
that
0.7,
we
would
certainly
change
that
square
footage
figure
to
to
match
accordingly.
G
Maybe
I'll
just
put
it
in
that
language,
just
in
case
I
screwed
up
my
math,
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
that
we
adopt
ordinance,
84
99
to
approve
development
of
all
aerospace
campus
that
exceeds
floor
area
ratio
standards
in
the
industrial
general
zoning
district.
We'll
read
all
the
other
words,
but
with
the
amendment
of
changing
the
0.65,
far
allowance
2.7
and
then
the
accompanying
square
footage
to
to
match
accordingly.
G
All
right
well,
thanks
for
letting
me
take
the
reins
on
that
one
folks.
I
usually
fade
back
because
the
mayor
and
let
other
people
comment,
but
I
had
this
idea.
So
I
appreciate
your
indulgence.
Seeing
no
other
comments,
we'll
take
a
vote
and
alicia
you
got
a
roll
call.
I
believe.
I
B
N
K
I
G
Great
well
thanks
so
much
everyone
and
congratulations
to
the
folks
at
ball,
aerospace
and
we
look
forward
to
a
continued
long-term
and
productive
partnership
with
your
organization
in
our
city.
N
AP
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
tonight.
As
alicia
has
said.
The
purpose
of
this
agenda
item
is
to
provide
you
an
update
on
state
policies
that
the
city
has
been
advocating
for.
We
are
joined
by
our
lobbyists
from
headwater
strategies
will
coin
and
adam
eichberg,
and
they
can
speak
more
broadly
after
my
presentation
about
the
general
political
climate
at
the
state
house
and
and
issues
that
maybe
are
not
very
specific
to
the
city,
but
probably
still
of
interest
to
you.
AP
We're
also
joined
tonight
by
assistant
city
attorney,
laura
witt,
who
has
been
helping
me
out
with
quite
a
bit
of
things
related
to
legislation,
providing
an
analysis
and
she
will
be
available
to
help
field.
Some
of
the
questions
in
terms
of
the
update,
I
guess
one
way
of
looking
at
this
is
boulder
officials
are
out
there
routinely
communicating
to
political
leaders,
making
requests
of
them
and
conveying
the
city's
positions.
AP
So
we
think
it's
very
important
that
we
get
it
right
that
you
know
what
we
are
conveying,
and
why
and
that
you
provide
us
any
course
direction
if
necessary.
So
today
is
certainly
an
opportunity
to
do
just
that.
We're
also
going
to
ask
you
to
consider
revising
the
policy
statement.
It's
actually
not
something
that
you
need
to
do.
AP
We
don't
have
any
recommendations,
there's
no
legislation
that
has
come
up
that
has
needed
clarification
of
the
policy
statement,
but
what's
particularly
unique
about
this
year
is
this
is
part
of
our
first
time
where
we
had
the
policy
statement
approved
by
the
old
council,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
new
council
members
had
an
opportunity
to
put
their
imprint
on
it.
You
certainly
don't
have
to
do
that.
As
of
today,
you
will
have
other
opportunities.
AP
AP
So
I
want
to
start
off
with
the
state
policy
priorities.
I've
identified
the
five
of
them
that
council
has
approved
in
its
policy
statement
in
the
memo,
and
I
don't
want
to
go
through
them
all,
because
it's
it's
you've
already
read
that
I'm
sure
you've
understood
it.
You
can
ask
any
questions
if
you
have
any.
I
do
want
to
touch
on
a
few
three
different
topics
and
some
of
the
bills
that
I
have
some
unique
issues
that
have
come
up
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention.
AP
So
the
good
news
is
that
we
recently
learned
that
the
budget
it
all
gets
rolled
into
a
general
budget
bill,
that's
considered
in
later
march,
or
early
april.
It's
called
the
long
bill,
which
is
basically
the
overall
budget
for
the
state,
the
portion
of
it
that
has
to
do
with
funding.
The
secretary
of
state's
office
has
now
included
funding
for
the
secretary
of
state
to
do
the
implementation,
that's
necessary,
so
we're
thrilled
to
hear
that
I've
been
working
with
council
member
benjamin.
AP
I
know
that
he's
been
a
champion
of
this
issue
and-
and
we've
been
we've
been
lobbying
this
hard,
because,
frankly,
it
actually
had
some
resistance
at
the
jvc
at
first
they
they
were
hesitant
to
fund
it,
of
course,
because
it's
the
result
always
the
possibility
that
the
secretary
of
state's
office
could
do
it
through
raising
business
fees,
and
there
was
there
was
a
challenge
about
who
was
going
to
pay
for
what.
AP
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
is
one
of
council's
priorities
was
to
modernize
building
energy
codes
and
representative
burnett
is
expected
to
introduce
the
bills
here
soon.
That
will
do
that
by
modernizing
energy
codes
that
will
reduce
climate
emissions
and
it'll
save
colorado
one's
money
under
energy
bills.
AP
It
has
a
few
different
elements
to
it.
The
first
part
is
that
cities
that
have
building
codes
would
have
to
adopt
the
2021
international
energy
conservation
code
immediately
and
then
by
2030.
They
would
have
to
adopt
a
near
zero
energy
code
and
the
colorado
energy
office
would
be
working
on
developing
that
model
and,
of
course,
cities
like
boulder
that
have
adopted
codes
that
are
more
stringent
need,
not
comply
with
the
the
state's
code,
but
that
would
be
exempted.
AP
The
news
on
this
front
is
that,
as
you've
heard,
I
think
it
was
in
today's
paper.
There
is
a
lot
of
challenges
that
were
seen
by
particularly
people.
Who've
lost
their
homes
in
the
marshall
fire
concerned
that
stronger
energy
codes
means
more
money
and
there
is
a
wide
disparity
between
what
the
estimates
are.
We
think
that
a
lot
of
the
estimates
are
being
thrown
out
there
just
wildly
disproportionate
and
really,
frankly,
a
way
to
avoid
stronger
energy
codes,
but
there's
also
a
legitimate
issue.
AP
AP
Wrestled
with
so
this
is
something
that
we
continue
to
work
with,
but
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
have
to
make
some
changes
in
the
bill,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
give
you
a
heads
up
that
it's
it's
facing.
Some.
AP
AP
AP
We
just
learned
that
yesterday,
hb
1138
died
so
now
we
only
have
the
hb
1026,
which
is
the
alternative
transportation
options,
tax
credit
bill,
so
that's
good
news
and
that
we
have
that
as
a
greater
incentive
for
employers
to
provide
these
options
to
employees.
It's
bad
news
that
it
doesn't
come
with
a
greater
level
of
conditions
on
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
employers
provide
to
their
employees.
AP
Finally,
there
is
a
per.
There
is
an
effort
that
the
governor
included
the
governor
included
in
his
budget
funding
for
a
program
that
would
encourage
free
transit
passes
during
the
high
ozone
season,
and
this
would
establish
a
program
where
cdot
department
of
transportation
would
issue
grants
to
different
transit
agencies,
including
rtd
to
fund
a
from
their
their
ability
to
provide
free
transit
during
let's
say
may
through
september,
where
here
in
the
front
range
or
ozone,
tends
to
be
fairly
high.
AP
We're
running
into
some
challenges,
partly
because
rtd
right
now
is
a
little
concerned
about
providing
free
transit.
They
have
some
concerns
about
how
that
might
affect
operations.
So
that's
an
issue
that
we're
wrestling
with
and
again
this
is
facing
some
headwinds.
So
I
wanted
you
to
know
about
those
bills.
One
of
them,
that's
good.
The
other
three
are
kind
of
you
know
questionable
how
things
are
gonna
evolve,
but
I
want
you
to
know
where
we
stood.
AP
I
also
wanted
to
give
you
some
information
on
some
other
bills
that
are
not
state
council
priorities,
but
that
were
nonetheless
actively
involved
with
or
or
soon
will
be.
The
first
one
is
probably
the
one
that
we
feel
is
maybe
the
strongest
most
likely
to
to
move
forward,
which
is
the
strong
communities
bill,
and
this
would
establish
a
program
that
that
over
five
years
would
have.
I
believe
it's
about
150
million
dollars
made
available.
The
funding
will
be
available
to
local
governments
through
dola
and
grants.
AP
The
colorado
energy
office
and
the
department
of
transportation
will
be
part
of
the
decision
makers.
It
would
incentivize
compact
development,
so
if
cities
were
to
adopt
plans,
zoning
other
other
policies
that
would
encourage
compact
development,
the
state
who's
trying
to
encourage
cities
to
do
that
would
give.
You
would
give
the
local
government
money
at
the
front
end
when
those
plans
were
adopted
and
at
the
tailwind
after
it
demonstrated
success
in
terms
of
actually
achieving
that
that
kind
of
development.
AP
That's
a
that's
a
bill
that
I
believe
boulder
should
support
and
would
support.
Unless
you
tell
me
otherwise,
because
plain
and
simple
it's
it's
funding,
that
would
be,
we
would
be
eligible
to
apply
for
so
I
think
anything.
The
grant
program
is
introduced
that
local
governments
are
eligible
for.
We
would
seek
to
support
it,
and
I
think
this
is
something
that's
consistent
with
council's
interest.
AP
Another
bill
that
we're
working
on
is
additional
protections
for
mobile
homeowners.
This
is,
I
believe,
the
third
year
in
a
row
where
we've
worked
on
bills.
That
would
help
the
residents
of
mobile
home
parks
we're
working
closely
with
representative
basenecker
from
fort
collins,
fantastic
legislator,
who's
come
in
with
great
energy,
great
ideas
and
an
an
amazing
commitment
to
really
dive
into
the
issues
and
help
mobile
homeowners.
AP
We
consider
it
the
holy
grail
in
terms
of
aligning
the
interest
so
that
there
is
no
longer
a
necessary
a
split
interest
between
the
owner
of
the
mobile
home
and
the
owner
of
the
mobile
home
park,
who
may
have
interests,
focus
primarily
on
profit
rather
than
the
livelihood
of
the
residents.
AP
The
second
thing
that
it
would
do
is
it
would
create
limits
on
rent
increases
for
mobile
home
pads,
one
of
the
things
that
balder
has
supported
on
a
speaker,
the
council.
Member
of
focus
about
this
earlier
this
afternoon
is
we
have
a
position
in
support
of
repeal
of
the
rent
control
limitation,
but
we
also
have
a
position
in
support
of
the
more
surgical
repeal
of
rent
control
limitations
when
they
apply
to
mobile
homes.
AP
There's
a
uniquely
compelling
argument
that
those
who
own
a
mobile
home
when
it's
really
not
that
mobile
or
could
be
in
a
really
challenging
spot
if
they're
subject
to
frequent
and
and
very
high
rent
increases,
so
that
bill
is
going
to
be
introduced
here
soon.
We've
been
working
closely
with
the
representative
and
the
coalition,
including
a
lot
of
our
mobile
home
park
residents,
and
we're
excited
about
that,
and
I
think
those
two
bills
stand
a
good
chance
of
passing.
AP
Then
there
is
sb
22
131
titled,
protect
health
pollinators
and
people.
We
are
working
with
senator
sandia
jacques
lewis
and
kevin
pariola.
Kevin
parrell
is
republican.
Huckas
lewis
is
a
democrat,
so
we
do
have
bipartisan
support
here
as
introduced.
It
would
require
and
create
very
broad
policy
change
that
affects
the
protection
of
pollinators
and
people.
AP
To
regulate
pesticides,
it's
scheduled
for
a
hearing
this
thursday,
before
the
senate,
agriculture
and
natural
resource
committee
at
1,
30
in
case
anybody's
interested
working
with
councilmember
benjamin.
We
were
able
to
secure
the
colorado
municipal
league's
support
for
this
bill.
They
are
a
champion
for
all
things,
local,
and
that
includes
a
repeal
of
state
preemption.
AP
However,
this
one
is
facing
a
lot
of
resistance,
there's
a
lot
of
entities,
industries
that
are
opposed
to
it
and
it's
kind
of
surprising
us
and
we're.
We
don't
have
necessarily
the
votes
to
the
court
of
success
on
this.
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
that
we
might
need
to
narrow
the
scope
of
the
bill
and
we'll
see
how
narrow
we
need
to
do
it
and
what
kind
of
exemptions
from
the
preemption
we
might
have
to
provide.
AP
The
last
bill
that
I
wanted
to
touch
on
is
the
extended
producer
responsibility
bill
that
has
not
been
introduced,
but
will
be
introduced
by
representative
cutter
and
senator
priola.
Again.
This
is
bipartisan.
It
would
create
fees
on
all
companies
that
provide
packaging,
whether
that
be
primary,
secondary
or
tertiary
packages.
AP
It
would
provide
funding
for
local
governments
for
recycling
and
waste
disposal
services,
and
it
may
also
support
and
use
producers
that
will
provide
new
products
that
industry
can
rely
on
this
one
again.
It's
challenging
we're
hoping
it
goes
forward
right
now,
there's
still
a
lot
of
negotiations,
specifically
with
industries
that
are
making
some
arguments
that
they
need
to
be
exempted
for
one
reason
or
another.
AP
So
those
are
the
bills
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention.
I
wanted
to
turn
it
over
to
adam
eichberg
and
will
coyne
our
state
lobbyist.
I
don't
know
if
some
of
our
new
council
members
have
met
them,
but
hopefully
they've
been
giving
panelists
privileges
and
if
one
of
them
is
is
available,
I'd
love
for
them
to
provide
an
update
on
things
more
general,
including
the
political
strategic
issues
that
have
that
we've
been
engaged
in.
AN
Great
thanks,
carl
all
right
nice
to
see
everyone,
I'm
adam,
the
other
one's
will.
Sometimes
people
confuse
us,
I'm
the
one
with
hair
he's
the
one
without
in
case
anyone's
wondering
we
are
on
day
50
of
the
legislative
session.
So
we
are
about
40
in
there's
120
days
so
70
days
left,
there
have
been
to
date,
423
bills
already
introduced,
which
I
was
doing
the
math.
AN
While
we
were
talking,
which
seems
like
a
lot
but
also
kind
of
a
scary
number,
because,
typically
in
a
session
we
see
between
six
and
hundred
builds,
so
there
could
be
up
to
200
250
more
things.
Coming.
Leadership
has
mostly
said
that
they're
going
to
stop
the
late
build
train
this
year.
They
say
that
every
year,
so
I
would
be
surprised
if
they
do
so.
I
think
we
should
expect
to
see
a
lot
more
coming.
AN
I
think
the
most
exciting
news
for
the
city
of
boulder
is
the
ascension
of
steve
fenberg
to
become
senate
president.
I
think
we
should
really
acknowledge
that
you
know
leadership
from
boulder
is
something
that
seems
to
be
almost
every
session
at
the
capitol
steve
was
the
majority
leader.
Now
he's
the
president,
leroy
garcia
took
a
job,
he
was
turned
out
and
took
a
early
leave
to
become
an
assistant.
AN
I
don't
actually
know
what
he's
doing
he's
the
assistant
to
the
assistant
for
something
at
the
pentagon,
but
I
think
steve's,
move
literally
across
the
hall
from
the
majority
leader's
office
to
the
president's
office,
bodes
well
for
the
city's
priorities
and
we're
excited
to
continue
to
get
to
work
with
him.
I
want
to
mention
a
couple
things
that
carl
didn't
directly
address
in
his
talk
about
what
we
still
see
coming
and
some
of
the
big
issues
of
the
session,
the
biggest
issue
of
the
session.
AN
As
we
count
it
really
has
to
do
with
money.
As
you
all
know,
during
the
pandemic,
the
state
cut.
You
know
something
like
three
billion
dollars
from
the
state
budget.
The
state's
economy
has
recovered
and
then
some
with
the
addition
of
the
federal
dollars-
and
there
still
is
close
to
1.5
billion
dollars
of
arpa
funds
to
be
allocated
this
legislative
session.
There
were
three
special
task
force,
one
on
workforce,
one
on
housing
and
one
on
mental
health.
That's
giving
up
the
remainder
of
the
dollars.
AN
Those
task
force
issued
reports
about
a
month
ago,
maybe
three
weeks
ago,
and
the
legislature
is
now
starting
to
draft
bills
to
do
the
implementation.
I
know
we
talked
about
within
the
legislative
group.
The
collective
bargaining
bill
that
some
folks
in
the
union
community
have
been
advocating
for
it's
still
taking
up
a
lot
of
oxygen
at
the
capitol
a
lot
of
discussion,
as
I
think
you
all
probably
know
from
following
it.
The
governor
has
said
he
wouldn't
sign
it
and
the
form
that
was
presented
to
him.
AN
The
advocates
are
still
working
out
what
they
want
to
do
and
what
that
bill
might
look
like
moving
forward.
So
it's
definitely
a
hot
topic.
The
other
hot
topic
of
the
day
has
to
do
with
ketamine.
AN
If
you
would
recall
three
years
ago,
I
think
three
years
ago,
a
bipartisan
bill
that
was
both
bipartisanly
sponsored
and
received
almost
majority
votes
in
both
chambers
decriminalize,
the
possession
of
ketamine.
As
you've
seen
in
the
newspaper,
there
have
been
multiple
stories
about
death.
I'm
sorry
I
mean,
will
just
texted
me
fentanyl.
AN
That's
a
different
bill,
fentanyl
fentanyl
deaths
recently
and
the
legislature
is
now
talking
about
how
to
best
address
the
fentanyl
problem,
particularly
in
light
of
what
just
happened
in
adams
county
with
those
five
adults
who
thought
they
were
using
cocaine
and
ended
up
using
fentanyl
and
just
dying
on
the
spot.
AN
There
are
a
couple
bills
dealing
with
with
health
care
and
trying
to
reduce
costs.
You
know,
governor
polis,
has
been
really
really
hot
on
his
four
years
about
trying
to
reduce
the
cost
of
health
care
and,
I
think,
we'll
see
several
additional
build
and
then
maybe
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
is
the
the
frame
generally
at
the
capitol
coming
from
the
majority
party.
AN
The
democrats
and
the
governor's
office
has
been
about
how
to
make
things
less
expensive
for
everyday
folks,
and
so,
whether
that's
lowering
the
fees
on
driver's
licenses
by
just
a
couple,
bucks
or
postponing
the
implementation
of
of
certain
fee
increases
that
were
in
the
transportation
bill
or
any
of
the
other
things
that
they've
been
doing.
They
really
believe
that
those
dollars
and
cents
are
going
to
add
up
and
and
folks
will
actually
feel
it
in
their
pocketbook.
So
maybe
I'll
stop
there.
AN
Now
that
I
give
a
little
bit
of
a
ramble,
I
don't
know.
If
will
you
have
anything
to
add
or
if
not
carl,
we're
happy
to
answer
questions
on
specific
bills.
AP
You
get
well
all
right,
yeah,
I'm
good
all
right,
so
the
only
thing
I'll
add
is,
I
actually
again
was
speaking
with
councilmember
phil
griffiths
this
afternoon,
and
one
of
the
things
she
asked
me
about
is
the
policy
statement,
language
with
regards
to
health
care
reform,
and
at
the
time
I
said
you
know,
I
don't
think,
there's
any
action,
and
so
I
actually
have
since
learned-
and
you
just
heard
that
there
might
be
action.
AP
There
was
a
recognition
that
there
was
a
lot
of
stakeholders
that
we
would
have
to
take
into
account,
including
our
own
community,
boulder
community
hospital.
So
that's
where
things
stand,
the
policy
statement
will
will
the
very
least
alert
me
to
track
it
and
bring
it
to
your
attention.
I'd
bring
it
to
the
intergovernmental
affairs
committee,
but
it
wouldn't
be
actionable.
AP
Like
many
other
positions,
I
I
would,
I
would
need
counsel-
or
at
least
the
committees
further
direction
before
being
able
to
convey
support
for
any
bill
that
comes
out
related
to
health
care
reform.
So
that's
all
I
have
eager
to
hear
what
questions
you
might
have.
K
AP
No,
so
I
mean
I
just
learned
about
the
fact
that
there
is
going
to
be
healthcare
bills
introduced.
I
know
absolutely
nothing
about
them
and
I
think
it's
premature
for
any
conversation
to
take
place.
I
was
merely
pointing
out
that,
knowing
that
this
council
may
be
interested
in
these
topics,
in
fact,
that's
that's
why
we
put
this
position
in
there.
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that,
unlike
every
other
position,
that
is
actionable
and
it
basically
allows
me
to
move
forward
and
take
a
position.
AP
I
J
AP
K
K
AN
It's
not
to
ban
flavored
marijuana,
it's
there
is
a
bill.
It's
been
introduced.
I
think
that
carl
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
the
city
has
taken
a
position
in
support
of
the
bill
to
ban
flavored
tobacco
products,
and
it
is
similar
to
the
ban
that
was
pushed
in
boulder
in
denver
recently
that
the
mayor
vetoed
it
includes
all
flavored
products,
including
menthol,
and
both
for
vaping
and
combustible
tobacco.
AN
It
has
a
hearing
scheduled
for
next
tuesday.
I
want
to
say-
and
I
think
that
they
are
still
desperately
counting
the
votes.
B
K
Thank
you
for
that,
and
also,
I
am,
I
think,
maybe
for
me
and
also
maybe
my
fellow
council
members
and
people
in
the
community.
I
was
under
the
impression
that
the
collective
bargaining
bill
was
moving
forward
or
at
least
had
a
lot
of
momentum,
and
something
was
happening
with
that
is.
Is
this
not
something
that
is
going
forward
at
this
moment.
AN
AN
I
I
hate
to
look
into
a
crystal
ball
and
guess
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
even
be
introduced
or
passed,
but
I
know
that
you
know
we
talk
with
advocates
they're
friends
of
ours
and
they
are.
They
are
plowing
full
steam
ahead
and
they
are
trying
to
get
to
a
place
where
they've
got
a
bill
that
they
can
get
through
and
get
the
governor
to
find.
R
N
R
Would
just
add
there
was
a
post
article,
maybe
two
weekends
ago,
by
alex
fernandes,
that
was,
it
was
really
pretty
spot-on.
Sometimes
you
know
we
read
the
press
on
legislative
stuff
like
that.
Really,
what's
up
really
really
nailed
it?
You
know
the
governor's
outlined
some
portions
that
he's
willing
to
entertain
in
negotiation
around
particularly
counties
in
higher
ed,
and
you
know.
I
think
that
the
union
world
has
a
pretty
broad
coalition
and
they've
not
yet
decided
whether
you
know
they
can
go
down
that
road
of
entertaining
that
negotiation.
R
So
this
is
one
of
those
ones,
as
adam
said,
we're
only
40
of
the
way
through,
and
we
may
be
still
talking
about
this
in
the
last
couple
weeks.
This
session.
K
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
for
maybe
call
on
this
one.
I
mean
I'm
in
full
support
and
I'm
wondering
how
can
I
or
other
council
members
who
are
in
support
of
collective
bargain?
How
can
they
either
support
this
bill,
and
maybe
that's
a
question
for
adam
as
well?
I
just
don't
know
which
one
of
the
two
of
you:
how
can
we
support
this
bill
and
support?
You
know,
president
fenberg.
AP
Yeah
good
question:
councilmember
joseph
well,
first
of
all,
the
city
through
the
intergovernmental
affairs
committee,
as
you
know,
had
this
conversation
about
this
bill
and
they
made
it
very
clear
that
they
are
strongly
supportive.
AP
AP
Basically,
anything
that
the
governor
is
going
to
request
is
going
to
require
meeting
our
issues
and
probably
several
others.
So
at
this
point
it
seemed
best
to
allow
the
powers
that
are
really
shaping
this
bill
to
kind
kind
of
have
their
conversations,
and
we
would
certainly
engage
when
a
bill
is
introduced
and
ideally
that
would
meet
our
our
our
concerns
and
this
the
city
could
waive
the
flag
and
go
testify
in
committee
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
what
we're
hoping
for.
M
Thank
you
thanks
for
this
presentation,
I
just
I
had
kind
of
a
question,
and
I
thought
carl
related
to
your
initial
question
for
us
about
revisions
and
thinking
about
how
to
revise
the
policy
statement
at
the
next
opportunity.
M
Adam
kind
of
noted
that
the
state
economy
has
recovered
and
been
some,
and
I
think
that
that
is
true
for
some
people
and
not
all
people,
I
think
kind
of
like
we
saw
after
2008
seems
like
the
pandemic
has
exacerbated
some
inequities
that
existed
potentially
is
growing
our
income
inequality,
and
so
one
of
the
questions
I
had
is
are
there?
Are
there
any
bills
that
are
kind
of
focused
on
this
aspect
of
it
sort
of
in
line
with
our
city's
racial
equity
goals?
M
And
just
thinking
about
you
know
how
we
can
support
things
that
are
really
focused
on
addressing
some
of
the
growing
income
inequality?
I
know
you
know.
You
said
there
were
some
bills
about
saving
folks.
You
know
few
dollars
here
and
there
all
wonderful.
While
some
folks
are,
you
know
getting
a
few
more
dollars.
Other
folks
are
getting
thousands
or
hundred
thousands
of
more
dollars
right.
So
we're
really
seeing
this
income
inequality
grow.
So
that's
one
of
my
questions
and
the
second
question.
M
Sorry,
the
question
specifically
is:
are
there
any
bills
that
are
trying
to
address
some
of
the
growing
income
inequality
within
our
state?
The
second
question
is
around
potential
revisions.
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
be
interested
in
is
whether
this
is
a
place
where
the
racial
equity
tool
could
be
applied
to
thinking
about
our
policy
statement
and
the
kinds
of
legislation
that
we
will
be
promoting
and
looking
forward
to.
AP
Thank
you.
So
one
of
council's
state
priorities
is
mental
behavioral
health,
and
that
specifically
includes,
among
other
things,
not
just
removing
the
barriers
to
to
care,
but
funding
for
mental
and
behavioral
health.
Unfortunately,
as
adam
mentioned,
the
ta,
the
big
things
that
are
occurring
at
the
general
assembly
assembly,
are
considerations
of
a
large
amount
of
money.
AP
AP
So
we
are
very
eager
to
not
only
apply
for
that
funding
because
because
local
governments
are
going
to
be
eligible
for
it,
but
the
shape
the
programs
that
are
made
available.
We
have
been
meeting
with
representative
mobley,
for
example,
and
all
of
our
legislators,
as
they
were
on
the
committee,
as
the
committees
were
making
the
initial
recommendations
that
will
now
be
translated
into
bills.
AP
So
we're
kind
of
in
that
stage
between
a
task
force
has
recommended
that
the
money
be
used
for
these
purposes
and
they
gave
some
ideas.
We
now
need
to
see
specific
bills
and
you
can
bet
that
we're
going
to
be
actively
involved
in
supporting
those
bills
and
making
sure
that
our
community
members
and
frankly,
those
throughout
colorado
who
have
left
behind
are
made
eligible
for
these
funds.
So
that's
my
answer
to
your
your
first
question.
AP
AP
AP
G
Oh
myself,
then
matt
carl-
that
was
great,
that's
great,
to
hear
nicole,
that's
a
really
excellent
question
and
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
carl
that
you're
diving
into
that
that
work
going
forward.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
results
of
that.
I
just
want
to
follow
when
you
said
about
the
the
health
care,
the
current
health
care
policy
not
being
actionable
in
and
of
itself.
I
thought
the
language
in
there
said
that
we
would
support
anything
that
made
healthcare
more
affordable
and,
I
think
more
accessible
as
well.
AP
So
the
situation
we
found
ourselves
in
last
year,
when
there
were
some
residents,
were
asking
us
to
support
medicare
for
all
or
health
care
for
all
was
a
recognition
that
there
was
a
competing
approach
that
was
out
there
and
we
basically
met
with
the
committee
and
discussed
the
pros
and
cons
and
recognized
that
there
were
there
were
stakeholders
in
our
own
community
that
might
be
affected
by
one
approach
versus
the
other.
So
the
committee
said
you
know
we
really
need
more
facts.
AP
We
occasionally
do
that
when
we,
when
we
want
to
make
sure
that
an
item
is
flagged
for
for
your
attention,
but
we
feel,
like
counsel,
will
need
to
weigh
competing
political
interest
and
that's
that's
how
this
current
position
is
is
worded.
So
I
wouldn't.
AA
AP
Comfortable
taking
that
position
and
applying
it
to
a
specific
bill,
nor
do
I
recommend
that
you
make
it
more
specific
right
now,
because
the
same
considerations
that
occurred
last
year,
I
think,
are
still
out
there.
My
recommendation
would
be,
let
me
bring
to
you
what
is
it
being
proposed
and
if,
if
all
of
you
think
that
it
is
in
support
of
what
you
believe
should
happen,
the
city
can
can
actively
support
it.
G
Okay-
well,
I
I
was
on
that
committee
last
year,
and
so
thanks
for
the
reminder
I
just
I
thought
we
had
landed
in
a
slightly
different
place.
So
maybe
it's
something
that
we
can
talk
over
further
on
the
intergovernmental
affairs
committee,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
our
that
our
city
can
can
be
fully
in
support
of
of
measures
that
bring
make
health
care
more
affordable
to
to
people.
G
And
I
think,
if
you
bring
it
to
us,
we
absolutely
will
be,
but
it
might
be
good
to
be
a
little
more
nimble
on
it
going
forward
as
well.
C
Thanks
aaron
and
carl
will
adam.
Thank
you
guys
for
the
work
you're
doing
the
advocacy.
The
lobbying
you're
doing
is
certainly
in
service
of
the
values
in
our
community
really
appreciate
it.
These
policy
positions
are
fantastic
and
have
a
diverse
suite
of
ways
that
we
can
help
our
community
and
the
state
as
a
whole
question
I
have
is
transportation
related,
it's
about
the
idaho
stop
bill,
hb,
22
1028,
and
so
I
was
kind
of
curious.
C
I
didn't
see
that
in
the
list
I
didn't
hear
about
it,
so
I
want
to
know
where
do
we
have
an
official
position
on
that
because
I
think
that's
about
to
go
to
the
senate?
If
I'm
not
not
mistaken
or
maybe
just
already
has
so
it's
right
in
that
phase.
C
I
just
want
to
get
your
thoughts
on
where
we
are
with
that
and
if
there's
any
position,
we
need
to
take
or
action
that
we
or
the
intergovernmental
affairs
committee
needs
to
do
ahead
of
it
ascending
to
the
the
senate,
as
it
continues
to
move
through
the
chambers.
AP
J
AP
A
title
that
doesn't
say
what
is
it
the
safety
stops?
It
has
some
idaho
stop
yeah
old
intersections
and
I
I
can't
pull
it
up
right
now
and
maintain
a
conversation
with
you,
but
it's
there
we
are
supportive.
What
happened
was
I
took
it
to
the
government
affairs
committee
and
I
said,
on
the
one
hand,
you've
given
me
direction
through
your
policy
statement
to
protect
local
control,
which
would
include
the
ability
of
our
own
council
and
transportation
and
police
department
to
decide
what
should
and
should
not
occur
at
our
intersections.
AP
On
the
other
hand,
you've
also
given
me
direction
that
you
want
to
facilitate
the
use
of
bicycles
and
of
safety,
and
even
there
is
a
question
about
whether
this
does
or
doesn't
further
safety.
I
said
so.
I
don't
have
enough
direction,
and
so
what
the
committee
said
is
why
don't
you
bring
it
to
the
transportation
advisory
board?
They
are
certainly
familiar
with
these
issues.
AP
We
we
did
a
memo
for
them
and
took
it
to
them
and
they
decided
unanimously
that
we
should
support
it.
I
brought
that
back
to
the
committee.
The
committee
said:
okay
with
that,
we
support
it
as
well,
and
we
think
that's
within
the
realm
of
what
the
committee
a
decision
the
committee
can
make.
So
I
believe
I'm
hoping
that
that's
something
that
the
full
council
is
embracing
in
terms
of
where
it
stands,
if
adam
or
will
have
any
any
intel
on
that.
That
would
be
great
to
hear.
AN
Period,
it
did
pass
out
of
the
house,
it's
waiting
its
first
hearing
in
the
senate.
I
think
it
was
assigned
to
senate
transportation.
AN
C
Great
thank
you
for
the
update.
I
mean
I
the
continuity.
I
know
we
want
local
control,
but
having
a
state
thing,
especially
as
we're
trying
to
connect
to
our
sister
communities
through
biking
having
continuity
with
those
rules.
I
think,
is
really
really
important
and
this
sort
of
plays
into
allowing
us
to
maintain
some
of
that
continuity
and
focusing
on
vision,
zero.
So
I
hope
that's
something
that
we
can
keep
moving
forward
on
and
get
it
fast.
AN
G
AP
So
the
previous
bill
had
basically
given
local
government
options,
and
so
now
this
bill
says:
okay,
we've
done
that
and
we're
concerned
about
the
patchwork,
and
so
we
want
to
have
a
uniform
requirement.
Yeah
yeah,
that's
okay,
100
debate
the
truth:
unless
there
was
a
radical
change
made
in
the
last
24
hours,.
AP
Yeah
yeah,
you
know
part
of
their
confusion
may
be
adam.
Is
that
the
summary
first
goes
into
explaining
the
history,
including
the
fact
that
it
includes
the
local
option,
and
then
it
goes
on
to
say
this
bill
will
take
it
further
and
make
it
a
statewide
mandate.
G
K
Yes,
it's
a
quick
one.
I
just
wanted,
maybe
call
to
just
like
mention
to
us.
What
is
really
what
is
the
incongruity
between
local
control
and
some
of
the
bill
that
are
being
proposed
just
because
I
feel
like
some
of
us,
don't
fully
understand
what
is
local
control
and
what
is
the.
Why
do
we
say
that
when
it
comes
to
certain
bills,
that
seem
to
be
a
good
idea,
but
you
brought
up
forward
local
control.
AA
AP
AP
The
default
position
is
protect
local
control
because
of
course,
we
wouldn't
want
a
state
law
that
says
this
is
how
much
you
have
to
pay
your
employees,
for
example,
we
wouldn't
want
them
to
say
you
know
you
can't
have
red
light
camera.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
areas
that
almost
all
of
us
agree.
We
would
not
want
to
yield
our
local
control.
We
wouldn't.
AP
Employees
or
have
the
state
collect
our
local
taxes.
However,
I
always
look
at
that
as
as
a
backstop
so,
for
example,
collective
bargaining.
It
used
to
be
that
I
would
just
look
at
that
as
well.
That's
local
control!
I
learned
last
year
that
that
is
an
issue
that
this
council
and
the
previous
council
actually
supported
and
just
like.
In
the
issue
of
the
environment,
there
are
many
times
where
the
city
feels.
AP
Yes,
we'll
gladly
yield
our
local
control
because
we
think
it,
the
the
public's
interest,
is
served
better
by
addressing
it
at
the
state
or
even
the
federal
level.
So
I'm
I'm
definitely
aware
of
that,
but
I
also
realize
that
there's
a
need
for
a
backstop.
AP
AP
Your
your
posit,
your
your
positions
irrelevant
and,
of
course
we
don't
want
that.
A
Carl
adam
will
thank
you
as
always
great
efforts
on
behalf
of
the
city.
It
was
recently
reported
that
I
think
it
was
only
2
out
of
48.
Maybe
it
was
2
out
of
46
sales
of
manufactured
home
communities.
A
AP
AP
This
bill
would
expand
the
kind
of
notice
and
the
kind
of
collaboration
and
information
they
would
have
to
share
the
kind
of
good
faith
negotiation
that
they
would
have
to
engage
in.
It
would
also
say
that
if
the
residents
decided
to
assign
that
opportunity
to
purchase
to
a
government
that
it
then
would
become
a
writer
first
refusal
which
is
substantively
different
in
that
the
local
government
could
then
say
you
asked
for
three
million.
We
offer
three
million
end
of
story.
AP
We've
met
your
conditions,
so
that's
a
pretty
significant
change.
It
also
would
have.
I
mentioned
450
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing,
that
the
task
force
is
recommended.
Part
of
that
money
would
go
towards
helping
to
make
it
more
achievable
for
communities
to
work
together
to
buy
their
parks.
So
those
are
some
of
the
examples.
A
Thank
you
and
my
other
question
is:
can
you
can
any
of
you
speak
to
the
actual
prospects
for
passage
both
of
that
bill
and
the
bill
to
establish
limitations
on
increases
in
pad
rents.
AP
So
those
are
both
the
same
bill
and
you
know
I
can
tell
you
that
the
homework
that's
been
done
in
terms
of
outreach.
This
the
coalition
is
very
strong.
AP
I
I
don't
have
a
good
way
to
predict
the
ability
for
that
bill
to
pass,
and
I
don't
know
if
will
or
adam
do.
I
feel
like
we're
doing
all
the
right
things.
AP
An
active
member
doesn't
just
mean,
like
we've,
certainly
been
active
in
drafting
the
bill,
and
but
we're
we're
also
very
active
in
I
mean,
will
and
adam
are
among
the
best
in
the
game,
and
so
we
are
lending
our
our
lobbying
resources
at
the
capitol
to
make
sure
that
the
the
people
that
need
to
be
spoken
to
and
the
you
know,
the
the
the
lobbying
that
needs
to
occur
occurs
and
I
I
personally
feel
very
fairly
confident
more
like
more
likely
than
not
that
it'll
pass.
I.
A
N
O
And
then
I
just
had
a
quick
question
sort
of
about
our
policy
document
on
the
first
sheet.
We
have
sort
of
state
and
federal
priorities
where
they're
just
a
couple
of
the
items
that
are
within
our
larger
policy
document
and
I'm
wondering
how.
O
AP
So
we
initially
had
a
policy
statement
that
was
much
shorter.
It
was
three
or
four
pages
and
over
the
years
it
grew
much
to
the
chagrin
of
some
council
members
to
the
point
that
you
now
have
what
you
know
when
you
have
area
of
43
pages
with
71
positions
and
many
of
them
have
sub
positions,
and
so
you
know
some
people
were
saying.
Well,
this
is
a
wish
list.
You
can't
possibly
be
actively
working
on
all
these
issues,
so
it's
a
twofold
balance.
AP
On
one
hand
we
want
to
have
positions
there,
so
if
the
opportunity
arises,
if
the
bill
gets
introduced,
they
don't
have
to
go
running
back
to
council
and
say
we
need
a
decision
yesterday,
because
that's
how
fast
things
move
the
general
assembly
but
other
hand.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
we
knew
the
ones
that
you
felt
were
most
important
and
that
should
be
prioritized
the
ones
that
we
have
to
be
the
most
proactive
on
and
the
ones
that
we
frankly
are
going
to
be
measured
on.
AP
So
to
the
extent
that
we
succeed
or
don't
succeed
or
partly
succeed,
we'll
be
reporting
back
that
to
you.
So
that's
that's
the
difference.
The
list
of
state
and
federal
priorities
is
intentionally
kept
short.
I
am
the
only
fte,
that's
full-time
dedicated
at
this
city
for
this
others
like,
for
example,
the
county
that
have
numerous
people
that
work
full-time
on
lobbying
issues.
So
it's
you
know
it's
a
question
of
being
realistic.
AP
G
Thanks
all
right:
well,
I'm
it's
interesting.
I've
gotten
like
four
texts
in
the
last
five
minutes
about
the
time
as
we
are
well
past
10
o'clock
here,
but
this
has
been
a
really
helpful
set
of
questions
and
discussion
teresa.
Do
you
want
to
pop
in
and
educate
us
on
the
appropriate
next
step
to
take
on
the
time.
Y
I'm
happy
to
do
that
mayor.
In
addition,
I
want
to
remind
you
that
this
is
a
this
is
a
public
hearing,
so
it
is
important
to
open
and
close
the
public
hearing
on
this
matter,
but
before
you
take
up
any
new
matters,
because
it
is
after
nine
o'clock,
if
you
were
to
want
to
take
up
any
new
matters
that
will
extend
beyond
10
30,
that
requires
a
vote
of
the
council
in
a
two-thirds
agreement.
G
Thank
you
for
that.
So
rachel.
P
I
would
just
like
to
make
the
motion
that
we
need
to
open
new
matters
as
necessary
and
and
continue
beyond
11,
if
needed.
G
S
There's
two
matters
of
our
time:
sensitive.
Is
the
the
employee
review
time
sensitive,
it's
only
the
first
of
march.
Do
we
have
to
do
that
tonight.
M
Yes,
it
is
quite
time
sensitive
as
we
are
already
delayed.
G
Okay,
so
let's
let
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second.
Maybe
we
can
express
an
intention
after
we
prove
this
motion.
If
we
do
to
move
swiftly
and
expeditiously
through
the
remaining
matters,
let's
see,
I
guess
this
will
be
a.
Does.
Anyone
object
to
the
motion
on
the
table
bob.
I
keep
waiting
for
you
to
cast
the
george
carrickian
honorary
no
vote
on
these,
but
you
know.
S
I
don't
I
don't
want
to
offend
my
friend,
my
friend
nicole,
because
she
she
promised
a
very
speedy
resolution,
so
I'm
gonna
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
So
I'm
not
gonna
object.
This
time.
G
Very
good,
okay,
so
that's
thanks
for
that
rachel,
so
that
passes
and
now
we'll
come
back
to
the
matter
at
hand.
It
seems
like
we're
done
with
questions,
so
I
will
go
ahead
and
open
a
public
hearing
on
this
matter.
Alicia.
Do
we
have
no
one
sign
up
for
this
one
as
well.
G
All
right:
well,
I
will
duly
close
the
public
hearing
then
and
return
it
back
to
council
for
consideration,
although
I
will
start
that
by
saying
carl,
is
it
correct
that
we
don't
have
to
take
any
affirmative
action
here?
Is
that
right?
We
already
have
an
approved
policy
statement,
so
the
only
reason
we
need
to
take
an
action
as
if
somebody
wanted
to
alter
it.
Is
that
correct,
correct
great?
So
then,
let
me
frame
it
this
way.
G
O
O
I
would
love
it
if
the
intergovernmental
affairs
committee
might
look
into
a
couple
of
the
things
that
have
been
brought
up.
You
know
around,
and
maybe
it
makes
sense
that
these
should
come
back
when
we
do
a
deeper
dive
in
october.
I
leave
that
up
to
that
committee.
If
that
makes
sense,
but
looking
at
you
know
our
stances
on
how
we
can
better
support
racial
equity
reduce
income
inequality.
O
Boulder
itself
is
relatively
compact
compared
to
a
number
of
other
communities,
and
I
think
that
sort
of
similarly
to
our
energy
codes,
supporting
that
kind
of
development
throughout
the
state
would
help
support
our
community
at
large
and
then
also
just
a
discussion
around
healthcare
and
if
there
are
any
updates
to
that,
that
would
make
sense
with
our
new
council.
G
Great
lauren
does
that
cover
your
common
concern,
all
right
thanks
for
that
all
right.
Well,
seeing
no
proposals
for
changes,
then
I
think
we
can
take
this
item
to
a
close
carl.
Do
you
need
anything
else
from
us.
AP
I
don't
just
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
some
great
questions
and
look
forward
to
continuing
the
update
on
this.
G
I
D
We
had
just
previously
put
out
to
you,
council,
where
we
stood
with
coming
back
to
coming
back
to
the
workplace
for
some
of
our
staff
that
was
in
hybrid
mode
and
offering
to
you
sort
of
our
thoughts
on
when
should
council
and
the
public
come
back
when
the
cdc
came
out
with
new
guidelines
and
has
switched
that
around
and
put
it
on
its
head.
D
AQ
Thank
you
mayor
and
members
of
council
and
muria,
it's
great
to
be
back
with
you
tonight.
We
did
go
ahead
and
prepare
just
a
couple
of
visual
slides
for
you
as
we
work
through
this
item.
So
I'd
request
emily
to
pull
those
up
now.
AQ
Thank
you
again.
My
name
is
pam
davis
assistant
city
manager
and
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
I'm
returning
to
present
this
update
on
some
of
the
changes
that
had
just
alluded
to
that
have
occurred
at
the
cdc
level
as
it
relates
to
boulder
county's
covid
status,
and
then
ask
you
to
consider
some
parameters
and
timing
for
implementing
hybrid
council
meetings
so
next
slide.
Please.
AQ
And
I
think
we
have
a
little
bar
blocking
the
top
of
that
screen,
I'm
not
sure
if
that
can
be
dealt
with
or
not.
It
goes
away.
Okay,
cool!
Thank
you!
So,
as
you
recall,
as
maria
stated
about
two
weeks
ago,
we
had
shared
with
you
a
framework
for
city
operations
in
terms
of
what
transmission
levels
would
dictate
a
change
in
when
city
offices
would
be
open
versus
virtual,
etc,
and
then,
friday
afternoon,
the
25th.
AQ
The
way
that
we
had
included
in
our
thinking
before,
but
there's
a
new
cdc
metric
that
is
referred
to
as
your
community
covid
19
community
level,
and
this
is
a
new
tool
that
is
designed
to
help
local
communities,
determine
what
preventative
measures
to
take
to
protect
themselves.
So,
along
with
this
new
framework,
is
also
a
greater
shift
toward
local
control
and
local
public
health
agencies,
making
the
right
decisions
for
themselves
on
what
kind
of
public
health
policies
to
implement.
AQ
So
this
this
new
framework,
you
see
the
broad
framework
here
on
the
slide,
and
in
case
you
haven't
been
familiar
with
it.
I
thought
it
would
just
take
a
few
seconds
to
orient
you
to
it.
AQ
So
the
way
that
this
tool
works
now
is
that
there
are
just
three
levels:
called
low,
medium,
high
or
green,
yellow
and
orange
and
they're
really
determined
by
still
case
numbers,
so
you'll
see
in
the
left-hand
column
that
the
the
current
threshold,
the
cdc,
is
really
concerned
with,
is,
if
your
rolling
case
seven
day,
average
is
fewer
than
200
per
100
000
or
greater
than
200
per
100
000,
and
once
you
have
that
answer,
you
then
cross
the
chart
to
the
right
and
look
at
the
secondary
indicators
of
hospital
admissions,
specifically
for
covid19
and
percent
of
beds
occupied
with
patients
with
copin
19.
AQ
and
based
on
your
numbers
in
those
two
categories.
That's
how
the
cdc
now
classifies
those
measures,
the
transmission
metric
that
we
had
been
more
focused
on
previously
dealt
with
case
numbers
and
positivity
rates.
So
this
is
a
different
calculation,
with
sort
of
different
thresholds
to
to
measure
risk.
So
with
that,
at
the
same
time,
if
any
of
you
saw
any
of
the
news
releases,
the
map
that
used
to
be
the
entire
united
states
was
just
bright
red
now.
AQ
In
addition
to
that,
when
we
just
talk
about
transmission
case
counts,
do
continue
to
decline
in
boulder
county
in
particular,
and
we
think
a
lot
of
that
does
have
to
do
with
our
great
vaccination
rate
and
the
measures
that
have
been
implemented.
AQ
The
the
length
of
time
we
kept
our
indoor
masking
order
in
place
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
anticipate
as
those
trends
decline.
Our
transmission
rate
will
start
to
look
greener
and
greener.
Just
like
this
new
community
level
measurement,
we
were
able
to
get
in
touch
with
boulder
county
public
health
very
briefly
before
this
evening,
just
to
sort
of
corroborate
our
understanding
of
how
this
structure
works
and
validate
our
staff
recommendation
that
we're
about
to
present
to
you
related
to
hybrid
meetings,
so
they're,
supportive
of
where
we
are
now
they
received
the
new
information.
AQ
At
the
same
time,
we
did
so
their
teams
are
currently
in
the
midst
of
digesting
this
information,
as
well
as
collaborating
with
neighboring
local
public
health
agencies.
So
we
expect
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
from
them
and
how
some
of
the
this
new
information
will
shift
their
thinking,
but
they
don't
anticipate
anything.
That's
significantly
out
of
la
alignment
from
what
you
hear
tonight
and
again,
they're
looking
forward
to
this
shift
toward
greater
local
control
over
how
we
regulate
public
health
at
this
time.
AQ
AQ
We
do
recommend
the
earliest
hybrid
meeting
with
council
take
place
april
5th
at
the
earliest,
so
that
first
regular
meeting
in
april.
That
will
just
give
us
a
couple
weeks
to
get
the
facility
clean
back
up
again
and
ready
and
give
time
for
some
of
those
minor
process.
Adjustments
that
take
place
when
we
go
hybrid
versus
exclusively
virtual
and
then
our
recommendation
would
be
we
would
have
about
a
month
so
two
regular
meetings
of
just
staff
and
council
back
in
chambers,
so
that
we
can
ensure
everything's
working
smoothly
and
then
at
the
earliest.
AQ
Welcome
the
public
back
in
may.
That
will
also
give
us
ample
time
to
communicate
to
the
public.
How
a
new
hybrid
public
comment
process
would
work
because
now
we'll
be
in
the
situation
where,
when
community
members
show
up
to
provide
testimony,
we
may
have
some
coming
in
on
zoom
some
standing
at
the
podium
with
the
microphone,
and
so
we
just
want
to
ensure
those
workflows
are
well
communicated
and
that
websites
are
updated
and
we're
ready
to
provide
a
smooth
experience
for
our
community
members
and
then
the
I
think.
AQ
AQ
He
and
I
working
with
the
kova
team,
we'll
just
do
a
daily
check
of
where
we
are
on
the
cdc
framework
and
if
it
appears
the
city's
headed
back
into
orange
or
red
levels
of
of
community
risk
or
transmission
that
we
would
recommend
in
that
situation.
We
would
make
a
recommendation
to
council
to
resume
back
with
a
virtual,
only
environment,
while
we
are
in
those
higher
risk
time
periods.
AQ
So
that
would
just
be
our
longer
term
opportunity
to
ensure
that
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
our
current
state.
Okay,
so
that's
the
recommendation
and
then
the
next
slide.
I
believe
we
have
great,
so
we
have
a
little
chart.
We
just
created
to
help
aid
the
discussion
mayor.
If
this
is
helpful,
there
are
a
couple
of
details,
we'd
like
to
hear
from
council,
in
order
to
be
able
to
implement
whatever
your
will
is
when
it
comes
to
hybrid
meetings.
AQ
So
the
first
question
we
have
is:
when
would
you
like
to
implement,
implement
hybrid
council
meetings
overall
again,
staff
recommendation
would
be
the
first
meeting
april
5th
for
council
and
staff
and
may
3rd
at
the
earliest.
Certainly
you
can
tell
us
no,
you
need
to
do
it
faster.
You
can
tell
us
that
sounds
great,
but
let's
wait.
Three
more
months,
you
can
tell
us
to
move
forward.
AQ
AQ
So
when
we
go
across
the
chart
from
left
to
right,
we've
discussed
that
regular
and
speed
and
special
meetings
because
of
having
public
participation
in
those
that
there
is
a
strong
interest
in
going
hybrid
when
it
is
safe
study
sessions
and
the
past
council
has
expressed
an
interest
of
maintaining
those
virtual
since
they
are
conversations
among
council
members.
But
we
welcome
your
feedback
to
validate
or
change
that
decision.
AQ
Also,
past
conversations
have
determined
that
cac
and
council
committees
would
be
virtual
because
of
the
nature
of
them
occurring
during
the
work
day.
Again,
if
there
are
particular
cases
in
which
a
committee
wants
to
meet
in
person
or
that
sort
of
thing,
we
can
always
accommodate
exceptions,
but
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you
on
that
and
then
finally,
boards
and
commissions.
AQ
Our
recommendation,
for
you
is
that
boards
and
commissions
at
their
discretion,
can
determine
whether
they
be
virtual
or
hybrid,
based
on
the
makeup
of
those
boards
and
commissions,
and
we
just
ask
from
a
staff
perspective
if
we
could
again
give
us
a
grace
period
of
about
a
month
after
the
council
meeting
shift,
so
that
we
could
just
ensure
that
we're
organized
and
supporting
boards
and
commissions
in
adequate
meeting
spaces,
hybrid
technology,
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
finally,
following
those
decisions,
is
whether
council
would
like
to
direct
us
to
work
with
the
city
attorney's
office
related
to
establishing
a
council
rule
or
procedure
around
attendance
in
these
hybrid
settings.
AQ
G
Thanks
so
much
for
that,
pam
really
appreciate
those
recommendations.
I'm
going
to
make
just
make
one
process
suggestion
here
in
our
for
our
discussion
tonight.
It
is
quite
late.
I
would
recommend
that
that
last
question
is
not
something
we
try
to
pin
down
tonight.
I
think
we
should
come
back
to
that
at
another
time
when
when
we're
a
little
fresher,
but
I
do
want
us
to
talk
about
when
we
would
like
to
start
doing
in
person,
so
people
can
say
what
they
think
about
the
staff
recommendation.
That
would
be
great.
S
You
know
thanks
thanks
aaron
thanks
pam.
I
appreciate
that
I'm
not
going
to
weigh
in
the
recommendations,
but
I
did
ask
a
question
for
pam.
Am
I
if
we
did
go
back
to
in-person
meetings
on
april
5th?
I
believe
that
one
is
scheduled
to
be
a
joint
public
meeting
with
the
county
commissioners.
Have
we
checked
with
the
commissioners
about
whether
they're
comfortable
meeting
in
person.
S
Think
I
think
that
meeting
is
pretty
much
a
sole
purpose,
single
purpose
meeting
it's
a
little
housekeeping,
but
I
think,
like
80
90
of
that
meeting
is
just
pretty
much
us
sitting
with
commissioners
talking
about
the
library
district.
So
the
only
thing
I
would
throw
out
there
is
the
commissioners
are
cool
with
that.
That's
fine,
if
they're,
not
cool
with
that,
then
that
kind
of
makes
that
pretty
much
a
mood.
Question.
D
S
Sure
that'd
be
fine,
I'm
kind
of
neutral
on
when
we
meet
in
person,
I'm
just
you
know
before
we
decide
tonight
we're
gonna
meet
on
april
5th.
We
probably
should
absolutely
respectfully
ask
the
commissioner
since
they're
pretty
much
our
meeting,
and
so
it
would
be
either
the
fifth
or
they're
cool
with
it
in
the
19th
or
even
may
3rd,
if
they're
not
cool
with
it,.
G
Great
mark
nicole
matt,
lauren,
okay,
pam.
A
A
question
one
of
the
slides
was
a
little
confusing
to
me.
Are
you
suggesting
that
we
go
back
to
virtual
if
we've
established
an
in-presence
meeting
only
if
we
hit
the
high
level
or
if
we
hit
the
more
moderate
level.
AQ
So
our
recommendation
is
the
high
level
that's
based
on
the,
and
I
didn't
put
every
single
thing
on
the
slide,
because
there's
a
lot
on
that
new
cdc
page,
the
both
the
low
and
the
medium
level
carry
almost
the
exact
same
suggested
precautions.
AQ
It's
once
you
hit
the
high
level
that
the
cdc
starts,
recommending
mandatory
indoor
masking
and
things
like
that,
and
so
by
our
our
staff
and
and
in
talking
with
boulder
county
public
health.
We
find
it's
a
it's
a
much
stronger
distinction
between
medium
and
high
rather
than
low
in
medium.
That
said,
ultimately,
when
it
comes
to
these
meetings,
in
particular,
it's
about
you
and
your
comfort
level
to
carry
out
your
business,
so
we
can
adjust
as
needed.
A
Okay,
I
I
like
your
your
proposal
and
probably
a
little
more
reticent
about
sort
of
the
middle
ground
and,
if
we're
trending
in
the
wrong
direction,
I'm
not
sure
I
want
to
wait
till
we
hit
red
before
we
make
a
different
decision.
A
You
know
caution
to
me,
and
this
subject
is,
is
always
warranted
in
terms
of
timing.
I
I'm
fine
with
it
and
obviously
we
will
have
further
conversation
about
rules
regarding
hybrid
participation
at
a
different
time,
so
that
covers
the
waterfront.
For
me,
right
now,.
M
Thanks
pam
and
thank
you
staff
for
thinking
so
carefully
about
all
of
this
generally.
Yes,
this
is
my
my
short
answer,
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
just
wondering
about,
because
I'm
still
just
really
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
there
are
folks
in
our
community
we're
dealing
with
autoimmune
issues
who
are
compromised
in
some
way
right
and
have
we
gotten
any
input
you
know
from
them
on
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
might
be
able
to
put
in
place
like
one
of
the
things
I've
been
thinking
about.
M
Is
you
know
we
often
ask
if
folks
need
accommodations,
or
you
know,
translation
or
something
like
that.
If
we
know
that
somebody
really
wants
to
come
in
and
speak
to
us
in
person
and
they
are
immunocompromised,
can
we
agree
to
our
masks?
You
know
for
that
meeting
or
something
like
that.
I'm
just
you
know,
I'm
just
I'm
curious
about
what
ideas
folks
may
have
in
the
community
for
how
we
can
make
it
as
a
space
that
feels
comfortable.
I,
like
mark's
point
about
not
waiting
till
red.
M
I
would
also
like
to
do
that.
You
know,
I
think
it
does
feel
like
our
country
sort
of
decided
that
we
can
just
move
on
from
this
pandemic.
The
rates
are
still
not
zero
right.
We
still
have
people
getting
really
sick
in
the
hospital,
and
you
know
we
still
don't
really
have
a
good
understanding
of
who
gets
the
longer
term
covid,
and
why?
M
But
it's
pretty
disabling
for
folks
that
do,
and
so
you
know
I
I
just
want
to
very
eager
to
see
you
all
again
and
be
in
person
again,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
sensitive
to
folks
in
our
community
who
may
be
at
particular
risk.
AQ
M
AQ
I
I
was
just
simply
say,
nicole
to
the
question
about
accommodations.
AQ
We
can
think
about
that,
for
if
someone
really
wants
to
come
in
person
most
of
our
thinking
at
this
point
really
is
we
intend
to
be
hybrid
in
depth
like
into
the
future,
and
so
there
will
always
be
as
far
as
we're
concerned,
options
for
the
public
to
persist
participate
virtually.
So
I
think
that's
really
our
our
first
level
of
protection,
but
balancing
participation
with
safety.
We
have
an
ada
accommodation
process
and
we
can
think
through
if
there's
a
good
way
to
make
that
a
smooth
process
as
it
arises.
M
N
C
Oh
well,
thanks
for
the
the
presentation
and
the
thoughtfulness
on
how
to
sort
of
phase
us
back
into
you
know
two
years
of
not
doing
this
and
I
think
back
to
december.
Third,
that
was
our
only
chance
to
go
into
council
chambers,
and
then
we
went
right
back
to
hybrid,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
relearn
muting
and
I'm
muting
a
microphone
and
everything
else,
but
I
think
directly.
One
of
the
things
that
I
didn't
see
presented.
That
is
a
concern
for
me,
is
vaccination
status.
C
I
I
do
think
that
you
know
we
all
had
to
present
our
vaccination
status
to
have
that
meeting
in
december.
Granted
coveted
was
a
little
different,
but
it's
also
still
not
right.
It
is
still
highly
transmissible.
I
still
have
a
daughter
that
is
unvaccinated.
There's
a
population
completely
under
five
that
still
doesn't
have
any
level
of
protection,
even
though
the
masks
have
been
lifted.
C
So
I
think
that
if
we're
con
for
bringing
a
bunch
of
people
together,
not
just
counsel
but
packing
a
lot
of
people
into
the
audience,
I
I
think
that
we
need
to
strongly
consider
how
vaccination
is
part
of
our
protective
level.
C
In
order
to
make
sure
that
that
is
a
safe
environment
for
all,
especially
to
be
unvaccinated
in
that
type
of
close
proximity,
because
you
don't
have
a
choice
to
social
distance
in
that
environment
in
a
meaningful
way,
especially
for
the
audience,
so
that
that's
something
that
I
would
really
like
us
to
consider
in
order
for
the
public,
I'm
good
with
council
and
staff
hybrid,
no
public
for
a
bit,
I
think
that's
a
safer
environment,
but
as
soon
as
we
get
the
public,
I
think
vaccination
status
needs
to
be
something.
We
strongly
consider.
AQ
I
apologize
if,
if
you'd
rather
take
comments,
I
can
respond
all
at
once
too
mayor
go
ahead,
so
matt
just
on
that
point.
We
have
had
some
conversation
internally
where
it
stands
now
we
have
our
city,
vaccination
policies
so
from
a
staff
perspective
and
a
council
perspective
we're
well
aware
of
status
and
or
individuals
who
have
have
approved
exemptions
and
are
taking
precautions.
AQ
The
county
did
discontinue
the
vaccine
verification
program
that
provided
the
framework
and
enforcement
component
for
the
public.
So
I
think
that's
a
conversation
I
would
want
to
collaborate
with
teresa
on
as
it
relates
to
public
access
to
public
business
and
whether
or
not
enforcing
restrictions
related
to
vaccinations
is
advisable.
M
Yeah
apologies.
I
forgot
that
I
have
one
more
question
and
pam.
This
was
just
wanting
to
me
wanting
to
clarify,
I
think,
for
the
public
as
well.
Why
we're
having
a
gap
between
when
council
comes
back
and
when
we're
gonna
allow
the
public
to
come
back?
The
way
that
I
am
understanding
it
please
correct
me.
M
Have
us
come
back
deal
with
with
that
situation,
and
and
the
public
back
in
the
room
with
this
hybrid
participation
at
once
would
be
a
little
too
much
and
we
would
likely
spend
a
lot
of
time
at
that
meeting.
Dealing
with
issues
that
may
be
arising
is
that
a
correct
interpretation?
That's.
AQ
Certainly,
the
primary
factor,
I
think,
a
little
bit
the
secondary
factor
is
allowing
a
little
more
time
to
pass
of
this
downward
case
trend
kind
of
to
matt's
point
before
inviting
the
public
back
into
the
room.
Predominantly
though
it's
we
want
to
be
good
at
this
when
we
make
this
shift,
and
particularly
our
engagement
team,
is
adapting
quite
a
bit
the
way
that
they
work
in
this
environment,
and
so
we
want
to
ensure
that
they're
well
prepared
to
make
that.
K
I
just
have
a
quick
question
as
far
as
the
april
timeline
and
the
may
timeline.
Why
was
that
chosen
as
opposed
to
well
into
summer
time
and
I'm
not
a
scientist
when
it
comes
to
medicine,
but
my
understanding
was
well
during
the
summer
time.
How
do
I
put
it?
The
transmission
rate
for
covid
is
much
lower,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
what's
the
calculus
instead
of
going
on
into
the
summer
time.
AQ
Thanks
for
that,
council
member,
so
really
it
was,
our
recommendation
is
based
on.
What's
the
earliest,
we
think
is
reasonable
and
possible,
and
so
that's
where
that
april
date
came
from.
You
are
certainly
correct
that,
from
what
we've
seen
cyclically
of
how
kovid
behaves
kind
of
continuing
into
the
summer,
we'll
continue
to
see
that
dip
and
then,
through
the
fall
and
winter
months,
we
often
see
it
at
peak
again.
So
as
far
as
we're
concerned,
we
think
it
is
doable.
Ultimately,
though,
the
your
discussion
is
what
will
determine
what
you're
comfortable
with.
G
Okay,
I'll
call
myself
and
then
rachel,
I
think,
you've
got
a
good
plan.
I
think
april
sounds
like
the
right
time
to
come
back
based
on
the
the
lowering
transmission
levels
and
the
cdc
guidance,
assuming
as
bob
says
that
the
county
commissioners
are
okay
with
that,
because
if
they're
not,
we
should
wait
another
couple
weeks,
so
let's
definitely
consult
with
them
on
that,
but
I
look
forward
to
it
anything
to
be
able
to
lead
a
meeting
without
my
parking
dog
being
a
major
problem
every
single
night.
G
Oh
my
gosh,
I'm
so
desperate.
So
that's
that's
my
feedback.
Thanks
for
the
work
you're
doing
on
this
rachel.
P
Yeah,
I'm
also,
I
think
it's
a
good
plan.
I
think
april
is
fine
checking
in
with
the
commissioners
they
I
don't
know
if
they're
still
virtual
or
not
so
this.
This.
P
Technology
issues
so
yeah,
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
thing
to
check
in
and
so
either
doing
it
april
5th,
or
would
it
be
19th
as
as
the
start
makes
sense,
and
I
appreciate
us
having
some
some
concrete
data
trigger
points
rather
than
kind
of
going
with
our
guts,
because
that
was
concerning
me
for
a
while,
and
I
I
guess
I
would
only
you
know
a
little
bit
push
back
on
the
notion
that
that
I
think
it
was
mentioned
earlier
by
someone.
P
P
We
do
need
to
follow
medical
guidelines,
but
I
think
that
I'm
not
so
worried
about
my
own
comfort
and,
as
I
am
about
the
community
having
us
be
able
to
do
this
job
the
best
for
for
what
we're
trying
to
do
so.
I
appreciate
all
the
work
thanks.
D
D
Oh
just
if
we
have
an
affirmation
of
having
our
cac
and
our
study
sessions
remain
virtual.
Is
that
the
continued
will
of
this
council
body?
I
am
so
excited
about
that
thumbs.
Up
continued.
P
Can
I
just
say
one
more
thing
like
I
sorry
I
forgot,
I
do
think
I
understand
pushing
off
the
rest
of
this
conversation.
Mayor
bracket,
but
you
know
april
is
right
around
the
corner,
so
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to.
You
know
it'll,
be
quickly
that
we
have
to
figure
out
who's.
If
everybody's
got
to
be
there
or
not,
so
I
just
wouldn't
for
cac.
I
wouldn't
delay
that.
G
K
G
Yeah
that
we
would
put
it
on
the
calendar
for
council
as
a
whole
to
talk
about.
You
know
what
the
rules
are
for
for
hybrid
meetings
and
council
attendance.
G
Okay,
so
what
I'm?
What
I'm
hearing
is
general
general
comfort
with
staff's
proposal
subject
to
checking
with
the
county
commissioners
is
that
are
people
good
with
that?
G
Okay,
I'm
seeing
lots
of
nodding
heads
looking
forward
to
seeing
all
of
your
bright
shining
faces
in
person
again.
So
thanks
very
much
for
that
bam
really
appreciate.
AQ
And
or
if
I
may
just
clarify
real
quickly,
I
heard
from
a
couple
of
you
as
well
a
desire
that
really
that
medium
or
yellow
category
become
the
threshold
that
we
look
at
for
council
business.
Is
that
something
that
you'd
like
us
to
proceed
with?
Or
is
that
something
that
you'd
like
to
wrap
into
this
ongoing
rules?
Discussion.
G
P
Can
I
just
ask
for
one
data
point
for
when
that
comes
back,
and
I
will
be
brief
just
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
the
discussion
for
us
to
know
like
what
that
would
look
like
historically
so
when
would
it
have
been
yellow?
You
know
during
covid
when
would
it
have
been
green?
One
would
have
been
red
thanks.
P
D
G
I
M
Yes,
I
am,
I
am
wondering
if
you
could
pull
up
the
slides
that'll
help
me.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
so
far
it's
juni
and
myself
and
amy
and
hr
who've
been
working
on
talking
on
this.
Let
me
go
to
the
next
slide.
M
The
the
short
the
short
story
is
that
we're
very
behind
the
process
changed
to
align
council
employees
with
other
staff,
and
so
evaluations,
kind
of
should
have
been
completed
now
and
we
haven't
even
started
in
previous
years.
The
evaluation
process
has
taken
four
to
five
months.
M
We
are
thinking
we
can
probably
tighten
that
up
a
little
bit
and
get
it
to
be
done
a
little
faster,
but
with
a
four
to
five
month
process
probably
should
have
started
back
in
october
and
november.
We
did
not
so
we're
behind.
So
we
have
a
plan,
though
so
go
to
the
next
slide.
We'll
share
the
plan.
M
So
the
plan
is
to
move
the
council
employee
evaluations
back
to
spring
summer
and
2022..
I
think
there
are
some
good
reasons
for
doing
that
moving
forward,
but
at
least
for
this
year
we
think
we
really
need
to
do
that.
Some
of
those
reasons
are
listed
there,
I'm
not
going
to
read
them
all
so
for
this
year
the
2021
evaluations,
we
would
get
started
this
month.
Amy
has
reached
out
to
some
excuse
me
consultants,
so
we
should
be
able
to
get
started
in
april.
M
M
Now
what
this
brings
up,
for
especially
judge
cook,
who
has
you
know
been
with
the
city
for
quite
a
number
of
years-
is
that
we
really
need
to
be
conscious
of
the
fact
that
we're
delaying
people's
raises,
and
so
we
would
back
date
any
raises
that
council
employees
would
get
as
a
result
of
this
process
to
january
1st
2022,
which
would
enable
them
to
kind
of
get
like
a
lump
sum
catch
up
payment
by
the
time
we
we
get
there.
So
the
council
employees
are
okay
with
this
change.
M
You
know
we
just
want
to
make
sure
pay
is
backdated
and,
as
I
say,
they're
okay,
with
this
change.
I
also
just
want
to
recognize
that
we
really
don't
have
an
alternative
right
now,
and
I
just
want
to
apologize
to
maria
teresa.
M
I'm
sure
judge
cook
is,
is
long
gone
on
this
meeting,
but
I'm
I'm
sorry
that
you
know
we
weren't
more.
On
top
of
it
and
recognized
that
this
needed
to
happen
quickly,
so
I
think
I
can
speak
for
juni
and
amy
and
myself
we
we
will
be
working
to
put
in
place
some
really
firm
processes
this
year
to
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
happen
again.
M
M
We're
thinking-
and
this
is
sort
of
the
worst
case
scenario
timeline
with
as
much
time
as
as
we
may
need
april,
creating
evaluation
surveys
for
each
council,
employee
list
of
people
to
help
fill
those
out
in
may.
We
would
be
sending
out
the
surveys
and
creating
evaluation
instructions
for
council
june.
We
would
be
compiling
the
responses
from
the
evaluation
surveys
sending
them
to
all
of
us
and
getting
the
council
evaluations
done
july.
M
We
would
be
compiling
the
responses
and
giving
evaluations
to
the
council
employees
august
approving
pay
any
pay
increases,
backdated
for
2022
and
then
in
september,
debrief
document.
The
process
improve
on
it,
save
it
for
next
year
and
again
I
just
want
to
point
out
amy
said
the
consultant
thinks
we
may
be
able
to
go
faster
through
this
process.
So
that
is
all
we
can
field
questions,
but
I
may
defer
to
juni,
as
my
brain
is
starting
to
fail
to
function.
G
Excellent
well,
I
appreciate
your
working
hard
on
a
revised
timeline.
Goodness
I'll
just
say,
I
think
this
sounds
great.
Does
any
council
member
object
to
this
or
or
want
to
throw
in
an
extra
comment
on
this.
G
I'm
seeing
none
so
we'll
just
say
great
great
job
and
and
apologies
to
as
well
to
teresa
and
nuria
and
judge
cook
for
the
lengthy
or
the
delay
on
this.
G
Okay,
that
was,
in
fact
quick
thanks,
junior
nicole,
I
think
we
got
one
more
item.
O
We're
going
to
be
awake
for
this
one
really
exciting
stuff
get
up.
Everyone
get
up.
So,
as
you
guys
know,
we
are
currently
working
through
the
application
process.
Sorry,
the
interview
process.
We
have,
we
just
want
to
do
a
quick
update
so
that
we
can
talk
through
kind
of
some
of
the
upcoming
things.
Videos
are
currently
being
updated
every
day
as
we
do
the
interviews.
O
The
big
picture
is
on
march,
8th
we're
going
to
have
a
study,
a
study
session,
where
we
will
have
our
discussion
of
candidates
where
people
can
bring
forth
candidates
they're
excited
about
for
each
of
the
positions
and
sort
of
say
why
and
then
on
march
15th,
at
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting,
we
would
have
our
official
nominations
and
a
vote
on
the
appointments
we
kind
of
have
a
list
to
go
through
it.
O
That
gives
more
detailed
summary
of
why
we're
doing
it
that
way,
so
yeah
applications
are
being
provided,
are
being
compiled
and
provided
to
council,
as
well
as
board
and
commission
secretaries
and
liaisons
and
posted
to
the
public
website.
On
february
23rd.
B
Interviews
are
proceeding
throughout
this
week,
as
you
all
know,
and
will
conclude
on
friday.
Council
members
are
being
provided
with
access
to
interview
recordings
daily
so
that
you
have
as
much
time
as
possible
to
review.
So
I've
been
to
quite
a
few
interviews
already
and
many
candidates
like
this
new
form
and
it's
going
really
smoothly.
I
also
listened
to
a
few
of
the
interview
recordings.
Already
it's
been
so
convenient.
B
O
Lauren
so
hopefully,
everyone
will
have
watched
that
all
of
them
by
the
march
8
study
session,
where
council
will
have
the
opportunity
to
discuss
the
candidates
and
interviews
and
express
their
candidate
preferences.
But
no
formal
action
can
be
taken.
During
the
study
session
staff
will
be
taking
notes
on
which
applicants
camp
council
members
intend
to
nominate
and
appoint,
but
on
the
following
march
15th.
O
B
So,
on
march,
8th,
the
city
clerk
will
present
slides
of
each
board
to
support
council
discussion
and
slides
will
include
details
on
the
open
seats
applicants
names
if
the
applicant
is
currently
serving
already
and
wants
to
be
reappointed
and
slides
will
note,
applicants
that
applied
for
more
than
one
board
and
what
other
boards
they
apply
to.
B
Okay,
so,
as
far
as
march
15th
goes,
we
are
not
going
to
talk
about
the
details
tonight.
We're
too
tired
plus
we're
not
exactly
sure
no
I'm
kidding,
but
I
will
say
that
a
brief
presentation
by
the
city
clerk
will
remind
council
of
the
boards
and
commission
seats
being
filled.
That
is
going
to
happen
on
march
15th
and
the
list
of
candidates.
O
B
S
Two
things
I
have
to
complement
the
synchronized
swimming
between
lauren
and
tara.
Oh
my
god!
That's
how
a
two-member
committee
needs
to
operate.
Thank
you.
So
much
can
you
imagine
the
dress,
rehearsals.
You
guys
went
through
second
mayor
brockton,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion.
My
motion
is
this
taylor
ryman
rocks
he
has
worked
so.
J
S
C
Yes,
I
couldn't
agree
more
with
bob's
comments,
so
a
couple
things
one
just
a
little
quick
work.
I've
had
a
number
of
no-shows
at
my
interviews.
I've
done
two
four
out
of
13
have
no
show.
So
if
people
are
listening,
show
up
to
your
interviews,
cause
you're,
just
making
more
work
for
taylor
and
pam
to
reschedule
us.
The
last
minute
show
up
it's
just
15
minutes
like
let's
get
her
done
so
anyway,
so
that
that's
something
that
I
just
from
my
experience.
One
thing
with
with
process.
C
I
don't
know
if
it
was
total,
but
general
counsel,
consensus
of
of
trying
to
just
in
one
fail
swoop,
make
the
nominations,
make
the
vote
and
then
move
forward
and
not
allow
all
that
out
in
the
ether
and
public
and
and
ltes,
and
all
the
nonsense
cloud
and
and
make
people
move
back
and
forth
rather
than
just
get
to
it,
get
it
done,
nominate,
vote
and
move
on.
So
I'm
curious
as
to
why
we
extend
it
rather
than
that.
So
that's
my
main
question
and
I'd
prefer
to
just
get
it
done
in
one
night.
O
C
Fair
but
feedback
on
the
nominations
that
have
been
sort
of
out
in
the
ether
for
a
week
is
not
how
it's
ever
been
done
as
far
as
I'm
concerned.
So
I'm
wondering
why,
because
if
so
so,
I
know
you
have
public
feedback,
but
that
should
be
done
all
in
one
fail
swoop,
at
least
that's
how
I've
experienced
it
in
the
past
and
like
it
going
forward.
So
that's
just
me,
but
I'd
want
to
throw
that
out.
There
too.
AQ
Tell
us
why
so
matt
you're
right,
we
used
to
spend
about
two
hours
in
a
regular
meeting,
doing
everything
all
at
once,
early
on
in
the
process.
The
decision
was
made
because-
and
this
is
a
little
bit
of
the
pendulum
swinging-
both
directions
right.
The
decision
was:
how
do
we
not
spend
two
hours
all
at
once,
doing
all
of
the
discussion
nomination
and
approval,
so
the
idea
was
well.
AQ
We
can
set
aside
some
time
at
a
study
session
to
have
a
lot
of
the
conversation
and
then
and
then
the
regular
meeting
itself
for
the
appointments
can
be
a
quicker
process
again.
This
is
a
council
and
subcommittee
discretion
item,
so
it's
sort
of
where
do
you
want
to
put
your
long
night
and
and
how
much
do
you
want
kind
of
the
public
and
others
to
sort
of
know?
What's
in
your
heads
for,
however,
long
before
you
make
your
decisions.
O
And
part
of
the
intention
was
also
that,
if
say
someone
someone
hadn't
watched
all
of
the
videos
on
a
particular
board
or
commission,
and
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
had
the
opportunity
to
watch
all
of
the
ones
that
were
nominated
so
that
they
could
ensure
they're
making
an
informed
decision.
N
B
It
doesn't
matter
to
me
and
that
you're
right
lauren,
that's
why
we
did
it.
I
momentarily
forgot
why?
But
should
we
hear
from
others
rachel's.
G
In
the
list,
in
the
line
you
meet,
it.
P
Thanks
aaron-
and
I
I
will
second
bob's
motion
to
to
have
some
kind
of
a
declaration
for
taylor's,
awesomeness
and
and
pam
you've
been
great
too
and
elisha.
I
just
learned
how
to
correctly
pronounce
your
name
today,
I'm
so
sorry
for
the
last
several
years.
So
anyhow,
I
I
worry
that
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
failure
on
this.
P
You
know
a
fullest
anyway,
we're
going
to
make
more
nominations
on
the
15th
we're
going
to
have
the
public
hearing
after
we've
made
most
of
the
nominations,
but
I
think
the
public
hearing
should
be
before
we
make
any
nominations
if
we're
actually
listening
to
members
of
the
public,
I
would
probably
you
know,
have
the
eighth
just
convert
from
a
study
session
and
and
if
we
need
one
big
meeting,
have
it
on
the
8th.
P
I'm
also
worried
that
if
we
make
our
pitches
for
the
candidates
that
we
want
to
vote
for
or
nominate
on
the
8th
we're
going
to
remake
those
pitches
on
the
15th,
because
we're
going
to
want
to
refresh
people's
memories
for
why
we
why
we
love
candidates
and
we're
going
to
ignite
in
that
interim.
So
it's
going
to
be
it's
not
it's
not
going
to
be
one
two
hour
meetings.
P
It's
going
to
be
two
meetings,
because
we're
going
to
do
the
same
price
and
and
again
like
who
I
know
nominate
for
rab
is
going
to
you
know,
depend
on
who's
already
been
appointed
to
arts
or
whatever,
because
several
people
apply
to
three
and
we've
got
confusing
recusals
this
time.
So
I
I
would
that
part
I
I
would
not.
I
would
not
follow
the
recommendation
of
the
subcommittee
on
that.
I
think
that
we
are
hey.
B
G
G
Isn't
that
right,
like
the
formal
like
we
can
advocate
on
the
eighth,
but
the
actual
nominations
happen
after
the
public
hearing
on
the
15th
and
and
they
they
can
be
based
on
previous
appointments
as
well
like,
even
if
you
didn't
talk
somebody
up
on
the
eighth,
if
your
favorite
person,
you
know
for
some
board,
got
a
point
of
the
arts
already,
you
could
nominate
somebody
else
when
you
get
to
wrap
or
whatever
it
is.
So
I
I
think
those
parts
are
all
taken
care
of
from
from
from
what
they
were
proposing,
lauren
and
tara.
P
Yeah
well,
and-
and
I
can
be
done
too-
I
think
we
will
also
you
know
it
will.
It
will
be
a
rather
than
having
a
public
hearing
and
hearing
from
the
public
on
sort
of
you
know,
concerns
and
and
positives
about
all
the
candidates.
We
will
get
lobbied
really
hard
for
a
week
on
on
the
candidates
that
we
have
nominated
on
the
eighth
or
those
that
we
have
not
nominated
on
the
eighth.
So
it's
just
it's
gonna
be
a
week
of
intense
lobbying.
O
B
We
don't
have
to
have
the
study
session
have
this
in
it.
We
can
just
do
the
15th
as
our
two-hour
session,
and
maybe
we
can
move
something
cac
from
the
15th
to
the
8th.
I
don't
know.
P
A
P
A
I
think
matt's
right
we're
going
to
get
we're
going
to
get
lobbied
one
way
or
the
other.
It
doesn't
really
matter
how
we
do
this
if
we
do
it
on
the
8th
and
the
15th
we'll
get
lobby
in
between.
If
we
do
it
on
the
15th
we're
going
to
get
lobbied
anyway,
so
I'm
not
sure
there's
going
to
I'm
I'm
sympathetic
to
not
being
lobbied,
but
that's
simply
part
of
what
we
do,
but
I'd
be
very
happy
to
to
do
it
all
at
once.
A
You
know
admit:
I
don't
know
that
we're
going
to
get
it
done
in
two
hours.
Perhaps
a
more
realistic
allocation
of
time
might
be
appropriate
for
that
conversation,
but
I
think
it
could
make
good
sense
to
do
it
on
the
15th.
It
gives
people
extra
time
to
watch
videos
if
they
haven't
already
done
so,
and
I
think
that
could
work.
G
Okay,
let's
see
I
got
junior
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
try
to
move
us
in
a
direction.
K
Yes,
I
just
have
a
thought
in
a
comment
for
the
15th.
I
don't
know
how
many
council
members
will
be
participating
in
the
national
league
of
cities.
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
was
going
to
go
this
year
because
of
the
pandemic
and
also
whether
it
was
going
to
be
online
as
of
right.
Now
I
will
be
attending
and
I
don't
know
how
many
other
council
members
will
be
attending
as
well.
If
that
would
make
a
difference
on
whether
you
undo
it
on
the
8th
on
the
8th
or
the
15th.
K
G
Okay,
it's
another
another
wrinkle
there,
okay,
so
all
right!
So
we're
I'm
hearing
some
some
different
opinions
here.
I
I
personally
I'm
I'm
agnostic.
I
you
know
I
would
support
the
recommendation
of
the
subcommittee,
but
I'm
also
fine
doing
it
on
one
night.
So
I
I
think
we
just
need
to
figure
out
will
of
counsel
here.
The
complication
is
in
terms
of
amount
of
time
right
now,
we've
got.
G
We
have
90
minutes
for
this
on
march
8th.
We
only
have
45
minutes
for
it
on
the
15th
and
we
have
other
meaty
items
on
the
15th.
So
we
would
have
to
like
probably
move
the
library
district
discussion
to
the
eighth.
If
we
did
it
all
on
one
night
on
the
15th,
I
don't
know
if
that's
feasible
from
a
staff
perspective
doing
that
a
week
earlier
is
but
there's
also
the
question
that
we
would
be
really
good
to
have
all
of
council
here
didn't
realize.
Junior
was
gone
on
the
15th
so
another.
G
If
we,
if
we
want
to
do
it
in
one
night,
maybe
would
be
on
the
eighth
and
we
would
convert
it
to
and
add
a
special
meeting
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
it.
G
So
I
I
kind
of
need
to
to
assess
out
a
will
of
counsel
here,
so
maybe
we
could
have
a
threshold
question
of.
Would
people
prefer
to
do
it
in
two
nights
in
some
form?
Well,
I
guess,
let's
say
two
nights
roughly
in
the
form
that's
been
outlined
by
the
subcommittee,
or
they
prefer
to
do
it
in
one
night
before
jenny
did
you
want
to
say
something
before
I
post
that
question?
G
No
okay?
So
I,
if
we
get
tara.
B
G
Okay,
I
got
a
strong
majority
there
so
and
and
tara,
and
I
are
both
fine
with
that.
Hopefully
nicole,
I
didn't
see
your
hand.
Can
you
live
with
that
that
approach
and
lauren
okay?
So
then
we're
talking
about
doing
it
in
one
night?
Could
we
do
it
on
the
eighth?
Could
we
convert
that
to
a
special
meeting
and
do
it
on
the
8th
narrative?
D
I'll
ask
theresa
to
weigh
in
on
what
kind
of
notice
we
need
to
give.
It
seems
like
we
probably
could
fit
that
in
I'll
note,
that
likely
we've
got
a
four
hour
meeting
there,
90
of
which
is
this,
and
we've
got
outdoor
dining,
which
I
assume
you
don't
want
to
move
and
and
the
other
items.
So
we
could
move
the
safe
streets
boulder
if
we
needed
more
time.
G
N
S
Yeah
I
was
going
to
make
a
slightly
different
suggestion.
First
of
all,
I
do
agree
that
we
can't
do
all
three
things
on
the
eighth.
I
think
the
eighth
is
great.
I'd
actually
suggest
we
move
outdoor
dining,
because
I
think
that
is
still
a
little
flux
and
I
think
it
could
use
a
little
bit
more
marinating,
so
I'm
just
gonna
throw
that
on
safe
street
we've
already
postponed
a
couple
times.
G
O
I
don't
even
remember
what
day
anymore
15th
has
been
part
of
the
communication
that
has
been
happening
both
in
the
interviews
and
in
the
email
communication
that
has
gone
out
to
all
of
the
applicants.
P
I
would
not
all
the
applicants
in
that
I
know
the
ones
I
was
in
today.
We
were
like
we're
not
sure
exactly
when
we're
going
to
vote,
because
I
was
confused
from
cac
yesterday,
so
some
have
heard
something
a
little
different,
but
I
think
we
still
would
vote
on
the
15th
as
well.
Wouldn't
we
on
consent.
G
A
Look
whatever
council
wants
is
fine
with
me,
but
I
I
think
doing
it
on
the
15th
is
a
little
cleaner,
gives
us
more
opportunity
to
reflect
upon
who
we
want
and
why
we
want
them
and
how
we're
going
to
express
that
at
a
council
meeting
yeah.
It
opens
us
up
for
a
week
of
lobbying,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
part
of
our
job
description
and
I
I
just
think
it
it
unfolds
a
little
cleaner
doing
it.
That
way,
but
again
whatever
council
wants
to
do
is
is
fine.
G
It
is
I'll
just
say
that
missing
juni
would
be
really
unfortunate,
both
because
june's
voices
is
a
very
important
one,
and
also
because
having
an
even
number
of
people
in
this
kind
of
thing
is
tough.
B
B
G
N
K
Yeah,
since
I
will
be
part
of
the
interviews
tomorrow,
I'd
like
the
opportunity
to
be
there
and
I'm
wondering
since
if
we
were
to
do
them
early,
my
understanding,
based
on
what
I've
heard
if
we
were
to
do
them
early
somehow,
if
that
would
discriminate
against
some
people,
is
that
what
we're
thinking
then?
Can
we
push
it
for
later?
The
nomination
for
the
end
of
the
month,
the
council
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
month?
K
Okay,
but
can
we
can
could
we
if
we
were
we
intended
to
turn
the
study
session
in
march,
the
first
one
right
to
a
special
meeting?
Could
we
do
the
same
thing
for
the
one
later
on
at
the
end
of
the
month,.
G
K
M
I
support
just
having
one
meeting
on
the
eighth
where,
where
we
just
get
this
done,
I
mean
I
know
I
had
sort
of
set
a
lot
of
time
aside
this
this
week,
too,
review
everything
interviews
all
that
stuff.
You
know
I
feel
like
I'll,
be
in
a
good
place
by
the
eighth
I'd,
really
love
to
have
tuning
there.
For
the
reasons
you
said
aaron.
So
if
we
can
move
that
to
a
special
meeting,
I
think
that
would
be
my
preference.
S
I
agree
with
nicole,
I
think
just
let's
just
get
this
done
on
the
eighth
and
so
judy
can
participate
and
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
we
move
off
outdoor
dining
for
a
couple
more
weeks,
just
because
I
think
there's
still
some
stuff
in
motion
and
we
could
do
well
if
we
need
to,
but
but
anyway,
let's
do
it.
Let's
do
it
on
the
8th
and
be
done
with
it.
If
we
need
to
move
some
stuff
from
the
8th
to
the
15th
to
make
that
work,
that
that
would
be
my
preference.
Y
Mayor
our
esteemed
city
clerk
rightly
pointed
out
that
the
code
requires
the
code
states
at
a
regular
meeting
before
april.
Y
Awards
and
commissions
shall
be
appointed
so
terribly
sorry
to
have.
Let
you
go
down
this
rabbit
hole.
It
has
to
be
at
a
regular
meeting.
S
G
Well,
that
was
that
was
a
lot
of
discussion.
Terribly
sorry,
no,
a.
AJ
G
I
appreciate
you,
you
letting
us
know
bef
so
that
we're
not
doing
something
illegal.
So
it's
important.
I.
I
S
Could
I
ask
aaron
if,
if
junior
I
know,
you're
going
to
be
in
washington
for
the
national
league
of
cities,
it'll
be
a
two-hour
time
difference?
If
we,
if
we
stack
that
up
so
that
we
took
advantage
of
that
of
the
time
difference,
do
you
do
you
know
if
you
have
meetings,
eight
nine
ten
o'clock
at
night
in
washington,
that
night.
K
G
P
Well,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
for
junior's
sake.
Could
we
have
the
public
hearing,
though,
still
on
the
8th?
Could
we
convert
to
a
special
meeting
or
does
the
public
hearing
have
to
be
on
the
15th?
I
understand
the
vote
has
to
be,
but
could
you
know
could
that
portion
be
knocked
out
so
that
she
can
you
know,
because
you
have
to
watch
the
public
hearing
before
you
can
vote
so
she's
just
coming,
you
know
for
a
portion
of
the
meeting
that's
already
covered.
I
I
mean,
if
you
convert
it
to
a
special
meeting
in
in,
in
my
opinion,
teresa,
if
we
convert
it
to
a
special
meeting
yeah,
we
can
have
the
public
hearing,
but
we'd
have
to
frame
it
to
be
able
to
know
the
public
to
know
what
we're
actually
doing.
I
You
know
what
I
mean
so
they'll
know
what
they're
commenting
on
mm-hmm
so.
I
Go
ahead,
no,
I
was
gonna
say
so,
I'm
not
sure
if,
if,
if,
if
us
discussing,
if
you're
going
to
make
the
nominations
on
the
8th,
I
think
we
can
actually
say
nominations
of
board.
You
know
appointments
and
official
vote
to
be
taken
on
the
15th
on
consent
right,
but
I
think
we
would
have
to
be
very
clear
on
what
we're
doing
with
that
public
hearing.
In
order
for
the
public
to
comment.
Y
And
we
do
have
enough
time
to
notice.
We
have
sufficient
time
for
that
notice
is
required
in
the
newspaper
over
the
weekend.
Alicia
has
already
told
us
that
that's
possible
as
to
the
question
about
whether
we
could
hold
the
public
hearing,
there's
no
prohibition
of
that
in
the
code.
It's
only
the
appointment
has
to
happen
at
a
regular
meeting.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
the
nomination,
nor
about
the
public
hearing.
B
I'm
gonna
lauren
are
you
there
lauren
speak
up.
No,
no.
I
One
thing
I
also
want
to
note
just
for
progress
and
for
just
clarity,
there's
a
lot
of
boards
that
only
have
one
seat
open
and
there's
only
four
boards
that
have
multiple
over
five
applicants,
or
so
it
could
go
a
lot
smoother
because
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
seats
available
if
that
makes
sense.
I
I
G
G
P
G
Correct
that
that
we
would
we
would
go
to
the
basically
the
do
it
all
in
one
night
approach
on
the
8th.
You
know,
make
our
nominations,
take
straw
polls
but
and
then
have
a
list
of
potential
candidates
that
would
then
get
put
on
the
consent
agenda
for
unofficial
votes
on
the
15th.
B
G
I
B
Y
G
I
Okay,
the
only
thing
teresa,
I
think
we
would
have
to
just
actually
call
the
special
meeting
tonight.
If
we
were
going
to
convert
it,
would
have
to
be
called
tonight,
because
we
don't
have
another
meeting
before
the
8th
and
it
has
to
be
voted
to
be
converted.
Y
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you
for
that
catch.
So
what
what
the
council
could
do
is
the
council
could
suspend
its
rules
of
procedure
which
is
in
the
council
procedure
rules,
could
suspend
its
rules
of
procedure
and
take
a
vote
right
now
to
convene
a
special
meeting
on
march
8th.
S
I
make
a
motion
to
suspend
our
rules
and
procedure
with
respect
to.
I
think
I
think
this
is
two
motions.
I'll
still
do
one
motions:
first,
a
motion
to
suspend
our
rules
with
respect
to
call
me
out
teresa.
What
are
we
moving
out
here.
Y
Yes,
council,
member
yates,
I
believe
you
may
want
to
make
a
motion
to
suspend
our
rules
of
procedure
so
that
you
can
consider
a
matter
and
vote
on
it
under
council
items
right.
Y
N
G
All
right,
we
have
a
motion,
a
second
I
I
realized
this
is
not
an
ideal
option,
but
I
don't
see
a
better
one
at
this
point,
we're
in
kind
of
a
tough
situation
here.
So
I
guess,
does
anyone
give
a
thumbs
down
to
this?
Does
anyone
object
to
the
motion
on
on
the
table.
G
Very
good,
and
do
we
have
any
objections
to
that
motion.
G
G
Okay,
well,
that
was
fun.
We
did
go
down
a
rabbit
hole,
but
hopefully,
we've
emerged
on
the
other
side
and
I
wish
everyone
enjoyable
interview
watching
this
weekend.
G
Okay,
I
think
that's
it
elisha.
Do
I
have
that
right.