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A
D
E
A
F
G
I
am
very
excited
to
be
able
to
read
this
declaration
in
honor
of
Cindy
Carlisle
service,
two
on
the
Boulder
City
Council,
and
contributions
to
our
community.
Cindy
Carlisle
was
first
elected
to
a
four-year
term
on
the
boulder
city
council
in
1985
and
served
until
1989.
She
returned
28
years
later
to
serve
again
in
2017.
G
During
her
to
ten
years
on,
council
Cindy
has
been
an
incredibly
strong
environmentalist,
advocating
for
slow
growth
policies,
protecting
open
space,
increasing
transportation,
access
and
affordability
and
preserving
our
historic
buildings
shortly
after
her
first
term
in
1985,
Cindy
supported
the
preservation
of
the
chatauqua
meadow,
protecting
it
from
being
converted
into
a
parking
lot
in
her
first
term.
She
also
helped
with
the
effort
to
keep
updates
to
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
focused
only
on
the
specific
changes
that
were
needed.
G
None
of
this
stuff
is
easy.
Her
other
civic
commitments
among
many
include
serving
on
the
boards
of
eco
cycle,
new
era,
Colorado's
founding
board,
the
University
of
Colorado
long
lost
school
center
for
energy
and
environmental
security
and
boulders
first
committee
for
campaign
finance
reform,
which
led
to
a
successful
initiative
on
campaign
finance
reform
still
in
place
today
between
her
to
ten
years.
G
On
council
Cindy
also
served
for
six
years
from
2003
to
2009,
representing
Colorado's,
2nd
congressional
district
as
regent
for
the
University
of
Colorado,
where
she
chaired
the
capital
construction
committee,
while
Regent
Cindy
served
on
the
laws
and
policies
committee
and
helped
co-found
the
center
for
energy
and
environmental
security
Cindy
also
ster
served
I
should
have
asked
you
to
come
up.
First,
that's.
H
G
Also
served
on
the
city
of
Boulder
University
of
Colorado
working
group
and
to
help
rebuild
relations
which
were
needed
between
the
city
and
the
University.
This
was
an
enormous
undertaking
in
the
this
capacity
as
a
region
and
former
alumni
from
cu-boulder,
she
used
her
insights
and
university
experience
to
enhance
town-gown
relations
and
forge
a
strong
partnership
with
the
city
and
the
University
of
Colorado
at
Boulder.
Through
her
years,
cindy
has
remained
an
engaged
and
impassioned
supporter
of
multimodal
transportation.
G
Never
perfect,
but
you
know
you
just
got
to
keep
on
trying
extensive
bike
plan
throughout
the
years.
Cindy
has
championed
full
ridership
access
for
students
and
continues
to
support
programs
that
make
it
easy
and
safe
for
all
of
boulders
residents
to
navigate
the
city
successfully.
In
2019
she
had
the
opportunity
to
revisit
long-term
transit
planning
where
she
in
the
rest
of
City
Council,
approved
the
latest
transportation
master
plan,
along
with
the
pedestrian
master
plan
and
the
vision
zero
plan
cindy
has
been
recognized
for
community
community
service.
Multiple
times
in
1990
cindy
was
awarded.
G
She
has
steadfastly
maintained
her
focus
on
the
practical
realities
of
situations
and
has
resisted
distractions
from
various
latest
greatest
schemes.
Cindy
brought
traditional
progressive
values
to
the
City
Council
and
worked
to
restore
trust
in
city
government
and
perhaps
more
importantly,
she
has
maintained
her
relationship
with
boulders.
Essential
spirit
by
staying
connected
to
both
its
residents
in
its
natural
setting.
G
Cindy
has
helped
codify
the
fundamental
essence
that
makes
boulder
such
a
great
place
to
live.
Today
we,
the
members
of
the
Boulder
City
Council,
recognize
honor
and
appreciate
the
service
on
city
council
and
significant
contributions
to
the
city
and
community
made
by
Cindy
Carlile
Thank
You
Cindy
for
your
years
of
service
and
a
job
well
done.
I
But
I
didn't
really
prepare
anything
like
at
the
Academy
Awards
right,
even
though
I
knew
this
was
coming.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that
I
love,
Boulder,
I
love
the
University
and
I
love
the
citizens,
residents
who
show
up
here
time
and
time
again
and
let
us
know
that
they
care
about
the
community
and
they
care
about
what's
happening,
I
admire
and
respect.
I
My
council
members
and
with
Lisa
and
I
go
as
one
can
see
listening
to
this
so
far
back
and
she's
an
amazing
person
and
it's
been
an
honor
to
be
able-
we
haven't
served
before
together.
So
this
has
been
really
great
fun
and
I
would
just
ask
us
to
remember
those
who
went
before
when
I
started
on
this
journey
myself.
People
like
Al,
Bartlett,
Gilbert,
White
Ruth,
write
their
seminal
voices,
visionary
in
the
community
and
I'm
very
appreciative
to
those
and
I
hope.
I
G
G
D
D
So
let
me
just
say
before
I
start
reading,
what
an
incredible
honor
it
is
for
me
to
read
this
declaration
for
for
Suzanne
here,
she's
been
a
real
mentor
to
me
and
my
four
years
on
council
I've
learned
an
enormous
amount.
We've
worked
together,
you
know,
I
do
various
things
around
the
region
and,
of
course,
as
an
as
our
mayor
goes
to
things
like
Metro
mayor's
and
mayor
and
Commissioner
coal
coalition
events
and
wherever
I
go.
D
People
always
speak
to
me
so
highly
of
the
work
that
she
does
in
the
way
that
she
represents
our
city.
So
we've
been
very,
very
fortunate
to
have
her
for
the
last
eight
years
in
particularly
the
last
four
years
as
mayor
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
through
this.
Okay,
all
right,
it's
it's
gonna!
You
know
grab
a
cup
of
coffee.
D
In
her
day,
jobs
Zann
has
been
at
the
forefront
of
protecting
the
environment.
Previous
positions
for
the
Wilderness
Society,
the
Nash
Wildlife
Federation,
as
a
congressional
staffer
for
the
Fisheries
and
Wildlife
subcommittees
in
the
US
House
of
Representatives
and
other
duties,
show
this
strong
commitment
to
the
environment
and
our
planet.
And
today
zan
is
the
executive
director
of
eco
cycle,
a
non-profit
with
long-standing
ties
in
the
community.
During
her
eight
years
on,
council
zan
has
accomplished
a
great
deal.
D
Some
of
his
Ann's
achievements
on
council
include
evolving
and
expanding
boulders
approach
to
homelessness,
to
focus
on
housing
people
and
providing
a
pathway
out
of
homelessness,
increasing
our
support
for
public
art
for
proving
a
self-sufficiency
wage
for
city
employees,
strong
support
for
the
city
moving
forward
and
creating
a
city-owned
municipal
utility.
Expanding
the
city's
cooperative
housing
ordinance
designating
Boulder
as
a
sanctuary
city
adopting
an
annual
celebration
of
indigenous
peoples
day
and
leading
formal
consultation
with
Native
American
tribes
affiliated
with
the
area.
D
As
a
council,
member
zan
has
served
on
multiple
sub
committees,
including
the
Civic
pad
use
task
force
number
for
the
Denver
Regional
Council
of
Governments
Boulder,
County's,
Resource,
Conservation
advisory
board,
the
legislative
committee
and
the
retreat
planning
committee
now
courtesan
has
served
the
last
four
years
as
mayor
where
she
has
represented
the
city
on
issues
at
local
and
global
scales.
As
mayor,
she
worked
with
Council
to
find
common
grounds
on
issues
such
as
affordable
housing
and
municipal
ization.
D
Of
the
city's
electric
utility
zan's
collaborative
leadership
style
has
helped
to
meld
public
input
with
council
opinions
to
craft
consensus
on
policy
solutions
and
zan
has
been
a
leader
in
considering
actions
taken
by
other
communities
regarding
climate
change,
use
of
fossil
fuels
and
housing.
Zan
has
been
pivotal
to
boulders
inclusion
on
issues
of
concern
at
local
state
and
national
levels.
D
B
A
It's
one
of
the
places
where
I
think
democracy
still
works
is
at
the
local
level
and
the
reason
it
works
is
I
think
because
we
have
such
an
informed
and
engaged
public.
That
really
cares
and
that
frankly,
drives
the
policy
forward
and
makes
things
happen.
So
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
engagement,
all
the
people
out
in
TV
land.
We
have
a
proud
history
of
activism
in
this
city
to
carry
us
forward.
We
also
hire
the
best
and
brightest
staff
and
I.
A
F
A
I
have
learned
so
much
from
each
and
every
one
of
you
and
I'll
just
say
that
I'm
proud
of
the
work
that
we've
done.
I
first
ran
for
council
because
of
the
environment
and
because
Boulder
was
so
committed
to
to
acting
on
climate,
and
while
we
haven't
quite
delivered
me
supposition,
we've
been
moving
forward,
we're
changing
the
world
around
around
that
issue,
we've
helped
Excel,
get
greener
and
we're
moving
forward
and
again
I.
Thank
the
people
for
helping
move
that
agenda.
A
I'll
also
say
that
I
think
we've
done
some
important
work
around
inclusivity
and
trying
to
be
more
welcoming
and
yeah.
We
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do,
but
I'm
glad
that
one
of
the
last
votes
we're
going
to
take
tonight
is
on
our
police
oversight
panel
and
again
we
will
just
keep
moving
forward
and
I
know.
This
city
is
very
divided
over
the
issues
of
growth
and
development.
A
I'm,
proud
that
we
have
focused
on
the
affordability
part,
because
that's
what
everybody
does
agree
on
and
we've
passed
a
lot
of
policies
and
we
move
forward
a
lot
of
projects
that
will
add
affordable
housing
to
the
city,
to
help
preserve
some
of
the
the
diversity
and
uniqueness
and
sense
of
community.
So
I'm
glad
for
that.
I'll
note
that
all
of
this
is
a
work
in
progress.
A
Cities
are
always
a
work
in
progress
and
there's
a
a
poster
that
hangs
in
the
office
downstairs
in
the
city
council
office
and
it's
a
quote
by
Plato
and
I
love.
This
quote,
and
it's
it
is.
The
city
is
what
it
is,
because
the
people
who
are
who
they
are
and
I
think
that
that's
very
true
and
that's
what
gives
me
hope
for
the
future.
So
thank
you
so
much.
J
Lisa
has
been
a
real
mentor
to
me
on
council
and
so
to
be
able
to
send
her
off
at
her
last
council
meeting
after
she
has
served.
20
of
the
last
24
years
is
really
something
else,
and
so
I'm
gonna
read
through
this,
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
things
that
are
gonna
get
left
out,
because
there's
no
way
I
could
cover
in
detail
all
the
accomplishments.
J
That
Lisa
has
been
part
of
with
the
City
Council,
so
Lisa
more
Zell
first
came
to
Boulder
in
1958
as
a
child
in
route
to
Rocky
Mountain
National,
Park
hiking
camp
with
her
family.
She
later
moved
to
Boulder
in
1977
and
soon
became
involved
in
various
issues
such
as
protesting.
The
manufacturing
of
nuclear
warhead
triggers
at
Rocky
Flats,
getting
arrested,
sometimes
even
supporting
food
co-ops,
serving
as
an
eco
cycle
block
and
region
leader
and
enjoying
boulders
open
space.
Her
involvement
increased
over
time
and
in
1995.
J
She
first
ran
for
Boulder
City
Council
as
a
voice
for
Boulder
having
been
fully
involved
in
North
Boulder
sub-community
planning
issues.
Since
the
late
80s
Lisa
ran
on
a
platform
of
representative
and
transparent
governance,
slow
growth
policies
that
fully
engage
the
community,
strong
environmental
policies
whose
goals
are
to
reduce
our
carbon
emissions
and
other
environmental
impacts
on
the
earth,
safer
transportation
options
and
connections
for
the
pedestrian
and
bicyclist
support
for
affordable
housing
funding
and
strong
fiscal
budget
with
ample
emergency
reserves.
I
believe
Lisa
tells
the
story
when
she
got
on.
J
We
were
somewhere
in
the
two-percent
reserves
level
and
now
we're
at
nineteen
and
a
half
percent.
She
has
stayed
this
course
in
each
of
her
terms
on
council
95
to
9999,
to
2003
2007,
to
2011
2011,
to
2015
at
2015
to
the
current
day.
From
Lisa's
perspective,
it
has
been
an
absolute
honor
to
represent
the
residents
of
Boulder,
helped
resolve
their
problems
and
contribute
to
the
shaping
the
future
of
Boulder
in
November,
2015
Lisa
was
elected
to
her
fifth
four-year
term
on
the
Boulder
City
Council,
some
of
the
accomplishments
of
the
Boulder
City
Council.
J
That
Lisa
had
been
part
of
include
adopting
the
Kyoto
Protocol's
regarding
curbing
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
supporting
the
municipal
ization
of
boulders
electricity
supply.
Since
nineteen
seven
1997
supporting
zero
waste
goals,
including
acquisition
of
the
6,400
Arapaho
site
for
repurposing
and
recycling,
hard
to
repurpose
materials,
supporting
integrated
pest
management
which
minimizes
the
use
to
pesticides
and
has
virtually
stopped
the
the
city
organization
using
jnana-kanda
roids
over
25,000
acres
of
open
space
land
have
been
acquired.
But
Lisa
was
on
council.
J
Many
tens
of
miles
of
greenways
bike
paths
and
bike
lanes
throughout
Boulder
established
a
dark
sky
ordinance,
which
required
an
amazing
amount
of
persistence
over
a
15.
Your
implementation
period,
so
during
the
time
Lisa
has
served
on
City
Council.
She
has
played
a
key
role
in
expanding
our
sister
cities.
Projects
she's
had
the
privilege
of
voting
to
Adya
Terrace
Cuba
Yamagata
Japan
monta
Mexico,
kusuma,
Kenya
novelist,
Palestine
and
Ramon
Tom,
Negev
Israel
and
Kathmandu
Nepal
to
our
older
sister
cities,
including
jalapa
Nicaragua,
Dushanbe
Tajikistan
and
lost
it.
J
Tibet
Lisa
has
three
incredible
sons
all
born
and
raised
in
Boulder
and
now
living
in
Boulder
in
Denver,
with
on
Mars
L
Lisa
designed
and
built
the
first
structural
Adobe
house
in
the
city
of
Boulder,
where
they
raised
their
children.
The
house
is
highly
energy:
efficient
solar
powered
and
has
low
maintenance.
Lisa
has
maintained
an
organic
garden
and
fruit
orchard.
For
the
past
30
years,
Lisa
was
raised
in
Kansas.
City
Missouri
has
the
fourth
of
six
siblings.
Her
educational
background
includes
a
BS
in
geology,
an
MS
in
geology
and
a
PhD
in
geology
and
geophysics.
J
Lisa
has
worked
at
the
US
Geological
Survey
as
a
research
geologist
since
1977,
and
is
currently
scientist
emeritus
working
with
the
Yellowstone
Volcano
Observatory
as
a
physical
volcanologist.
She
can
take
the
heat
being
a
woman
in
a
field
of
science
formerly
dominated
by
male
scientists.
Her
career
path
has
not
always
been
without
barriers.
Lisa
has
worked
hard
to
ensure
discrimination
against
anyone
is
not
an
option
and
that
everyone
has
a
fair
and
equal
opportunity
in
employment,
in
politics
and
in
society.
J
And,
lastly,
a
final
accomplishment
by
Lisa
Moselle
that
she
and
the
community
as
a
whole
can
be
very
proud
of
and
celebrate
is
commencing
construction
on
the
North
Boulder
branch
of
the
Boulder
Public
Library
System.
Persistent
dedication
to
our
community
is
the
hallmark
of
Lisa's
dedicated
service.
The
bolduk
community
has
been
very
blessed
to
have
the
dedicated
in
a
fearless
service
of
Lisa
Moselle
for
over
25
years,
and
we
honor
your
service
to
the
community.
Thank
you.
Lisa.
G
Well,
first
of
all,
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
very
nice.
I
want
to
thank
the
people
of
Boulder
I,
never
wanted
to
be
a
politician.
I
just
kind
of
happened
into
it
and
I
ran
the
first
time,
because
I
thought
our
voices
needed
to
be
heard
that
I
wanted
a
more
transparent
government
that
I
wanted
good
land-use
planning
with
doing
the
best
with
what
we
have
left
and
making
sure
that
we're
very
careful
with
that
I
wanted
a
library.
G
I
wanted
us
to
be
a
cohesive
community
that
worked
together
and
I
wouldn't
be
here
if
it
were
not
for
all
the
people.
I
worked
with
long
time
ago
in
the
boulder
Neighborhood
Association,
and
then
you
know
in
my
own
little
neighborhood,
where
we
co-founded
our
own
little
Neighborhood
Association
and
then
forming
the
North
Boulder
coalition,
because
there
were
development,
serious
development
plans
happening
up
in
North
Boulder
and
while
we
had
our
differences
within
the
community,
I
said:
if
we
don't
speak
with
one
voice,
we
will
be
divided
and
conquered.
G
So
we
have
to
come
across
our
differences
and
speak
with
this
one
voice
and
we
did
and
we
were
able
to
get
the
North
Boulder
sub
community
plan
passed
and
people
like
Aaron
living
in
it
and
happily
living
in
it
and
making
something
I'm
very
proud
of.
We
have
48
percent,
affordable
housing
in
that
North
Boulder
sub
community
plan.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
people
for
electing
me
for
five
four-year
terms,
and
it's
with
you
that
we
were
able
to
create
the
vision
and
what
we
were
able
to
create
in
Boulder.
G
G
I
was
never
on
a
board
really
before
I
got
on
council
I
didn't
know,
Robert's
Rules
of
Order
I
could
care
less,
but
you
know
my
purpose
was
to
get
things
done
and
to
make
the
people's
voice
be
heard,
voices
be
heard
and,
and
that
my
family,
my
sons,
Tim
Nathaniel
and
Jesse
supported
me
through
all
of
this
I
just
have
to
think
and
I
have
to
thank
all
my
friends
who
I
haven't
seen
for
many
years.
I.
G
I
also
have
to
think
I
have
an
incredible
thanks
to
the
staff,
and
we
could
not
on
city
council,
do
what
we
do
without
a
great
staff.
We
would
be
nothing
without
our
staff
and
our
staff
are
the
professionals
that
put
our
ideas
into
real
formulas
and
how
we
can
get
this
accomplished
and
through
that
I
am
very
proud
of
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
that
we
have
gotten
done
accomplished.
I
am
very
happy
that
we
are
working.
G
You
know
to
move
forward
with
social
equity
with
being
cognizant
that
we're
not
as
perfect
as
we
need
to
be
that
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
in
terms
of
racial
equity
and
making
sure
that
everybody
feels
included
in
this
community,
so
I'm
very
proud
and
happy
that
we're
still
continuing
in
this
and
I
would
hope.
We
never
forget
about
that.
We
all
have
an
important
voice.
G
It
doesn't
matter
who
is
speaking
and
I
learned
early
on
I
could
close
my
eyes
and
just
listen
to
what
people
have
to
say
and
take
that
voice
and
try
and
thread
it
into
a
fabric
that
would
work
for
the
broader
community.
I'm.
Very
proud
of
all
we've
done
on
various
land.
You
issues
on
sub
community
planning
on
getting
used
tables
past
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
work
to
do
on
doing
community
benefits.
G
It's
been
an
issue
that
we
haven't
really
tackled,
but
we
finally
have
and
I'm
very
happy
for
all
at
the
open
space
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
in
all
of
these
years,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
strategy
by
other
council
members.
Nobody
does
any
of
this
alone,
we're
all
a
team
and
we
can
have
our
differences,
but
in
those
differences
and
I've
learned
this
so
well
with
this
council,
I
would
have
to
say
of
my
10
councils
no
offense
to
any
of
the
previous
ones.
G
This
is
absolutely
my
favorite
council
and
the
reason
is
not
because
I
get
my
way
all
the
time,
but
because
we
have
such
intense
debates
and
and
really
deep
discussions
about
what
the
issues
are
and
how
to
resolve
these
and
we've
met
each
other
with
respect
and
comedy
and
I
would
hope
that
the
next
council
going
forward
understands
that
it's
not
so
easy
being
on
council.
You
don't
just
come
in
and
say:
oh
I'm
gonna
fix
something
and
turn
a
switch
and
have
it
fixed.
G
If
that
was
the
case
31
years
ago,
when
I
started
on
North
Boulder
Library,
we
would
have
already
been
in
there.
It's
not
easy,
and
it's
not
all
politics
its
money,
it's
where
we
are
with
our
reserves,
it's
what
we
can
do,
and
so
it's
very
complex,
I
wish
the
switches
were
there,
they're,
not
and
so
for
the
next
council
who
comes
on
and
I
wish
everybody
well
and
I.
Thank
everybody.
G
It's
not
easy
on
them
either
and
they
put
in
an
incredible
amount
of
work
to
the
dedication
of
our
city,
so
I
am
gonna.
Leave
and
I
am
waiting
to
go
into
the
doors
of
Narnia
in
Yellowstone
National
Park
in
a
couple
weeks
and
say
goodbye
to
the
world
for
a
little
bit,
but
I'm
gonna,
stay
in
Boulder
and
I
will
continue
to
be
part
of
this
community
and
I
hope
and
wish.
Everybody
well
and
Boulder
is
about
greatness
and
we
can
do
anything.
We
set
our
minds
to
do
and
so
I
just
hope.
G
Just
one
I
do
have
seven
postcards
to
give
to
my
fellow
council
members
who
are
here.
They
were
printed
in
1993
I
got
them.
When
I
first
came
on
council
in
1995,
there
are
19
sent
postcards
and
back
then
we
hardly
had
email
so
I'm,
giving
each
one
of
my
fellow
council
members
a
postcard
to
remember
me
by
and
maybe
send
me
a
note
and.
F
G
A
A
Okay,
now
down
to
some
business,
because
this
is
a
special
council
meeting,
we
don't
have
public
comment,
we're
only
gonna
have
we
have
a
very
long
consent
agenda
that
it's
gonna
take
a
little
discussion,
but
then
we'll
have
one
public
hearing
and
that's
on
our
police
oversight
task
force
ordinance.
So
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
please
sign
up
over
there
and
with
that,
your.
G
B
G
K
K
A
A
Yes
and
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
shout
out
to
that,
that
is
to
incentivize,
more
affordable
housing
in
exchange
for
density,
and
that
was
a
lot
of
work
to
n
is
opportunity.
Zoned
and
we've
been
getting
a
lot
of
email
about
that
and
I
think
we
want
to
clarify
for
everybody
exactly
what
that
is
and
what
it
isn't
and
I'm
gonna
put
Sam
on
the
spot.
J
Okay,
well,
we
started
the
process
of
looking
at
the
opportunity
sound.
We
put
a
moratorium
and
I
think
in
December
up
2018
and
the
intention
of
the
moratorium
had
to
fold.
One
was
to
change
and
review
all
of
the
use
tables
in
18m
districts
that
were
part
of
the
opportunity
zone
and
make
sure
that
what
we
would
be
getting
would
be
focused
on
neighborhood
serving
retail
and
affordable
housing.
So
we
made
those
changes.
We
limited
the
office
space
and
hotels
in
the
opportunity
zone
and
then
we
further
stated
and
I
made
the
motion.
J
So
I
read
my
motion
language.
We
further
stated
that
we
wanted
to
protect
all
of
the
market
rate,
affordable
housing
which
is
present
in
the
opportunity
zone,
and
we
did
that
with
an
overlay
district.
So
we
put
a
district
into
place
which
basically
prevents
demolitions
of
market
rate,
affordable
residential
housing,
and
so,
if
you
like,
we
set
out
to
do
this
process
to
make
sure
that
what
we
get
from
this
tax
benefit.
This
tax
credit
move
on
the
federal
government's
part
is
what
we're
looking
for.
J
So
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
when
Jane
put
in
for
this
opportunity
zone
was
diagonal
Plaza,
so
diagonal
Plaza
use
pretty
much
it's
owned
by
seven
different
owners,
and
if
this
tool
can
be
used
to
get
us
good
outcomes
at
diagonal,
Plaza
I
think
we
will
have
done
our
job.
So
I
guess
that's
how
I
would
summarize
how
we
got
to
where
we
are.
The
other
thing
I
will
say
that
we
did
ask
staff
about
when
we
had
second
reading
on
this.
Is
we
asked
staff?
Could
they
please?
J
J
Furthermore,
even
if
we
were
able
to
find
out
where
the
funds
were
being
used
when
they
transfer,
so
it's
often
the
case
that
land
gets
bought,
the
project
gets
entitled
and
it
gets
sold
off
at
that
point
and
then
finding
if
people
who
bought
subsequently
had
oszi
funding
staff
just
told
us,
it
really
couldn't
be
done
under
the
set
of
laws
that
we
have
in
place.
Today
so
there's
a
summary:
hate-hate:
okay!
Well,
that's
Mary's
point
really!
Yeah
I
would
give
that
to
Mary.
L
Was
that
and
right
towards
just
before
we
voted
was
that
I
recalled
that
we
have
the
height
ordinance
in
place
and
so
I
I
bought
it
in
favor
of
lifting
the
moratorium
on
the
hunch
that
the
height
ordinance
would
would
provide
some
protections
over
the
weekend.
I
had
an
exchange
with
a
member
of
the
public
over
email
and
and
I
said.
I
shared
this
with
this
person
and
they
wrote
back
and
said.
Well,
then,
you've
done
all
the
studies
to
show
that
that
is
in
fact,
true
and
so
I
thought
to
myself.
L
M
There
are
several
protections
that
you
have
in
place
and
the
work
that
is
introduced.
Oh
sure,
Christmas,
check,
interim
planning,
director
assistant
city
manager
over
the
last
10
months,
since
this
councilmember
Weaver
described
when
the
moratorium
was
put
into
place
in
December
of
2018
council.
As
a
part
of
that
moratorium
outlined
a
series
of
efforts
that
we,
as
staff,
should
go
through
to
ensure
that
if
there
is
any
development
that
occurs
in
these
areas,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
that
development
gets
to
the
outcomes
that
we
want
as
a
community?
M
And
we
recognize
that
there
were
several
areas
where
what
our
vision,
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan,
stated
for
those
areas.
Our
code
did
not
necessarily
achieve
those
same
outcomes,
and
so
we
did
a
whole
bunch
of
work
to
the
use
tables.
That's
what
is
up
for
third
reading
tonight
to
ensure
that
we're
getting
the
outcomes
that
we
want
so
restricting
office
in
certain
zone
districts
is
one
area.
The
amount
of
office
that
can
be
built
in
certain
zoning
districts
and
councilmember
Weaver
describes
some
of
the
others.
M
The
other
is,
as
you've
said,
Mary
the
height
the
ordinance.
So
the
appendix
J
map,
that
is
in
the
land-use
code
right
now,
or
limits
the
areas
that
you
can
get
a
height
exception
and
go
up
to
55
feet
and
that's
very
limited
to
areas
where
we've
either
done
intentional
planning
or
the
zone
district
intends
for
that
level
of
intensity
and
so
the
height.
The
ordinance
really
is
your
your
one
of
your
strongest
tools
in
your
toolbox
to
ensure
that
you're
getting
the
outcomes
that
you
want.
M
The
vast
majority
of
the
opportunity
zone
is
not
able
to
go
above
the
base
zoning
height
and
get
a
height
exception,
so
I
think
that
tool
is
in
the
in
the
toolbox
as
well.
The
last
that
I
would
say
is
the
decisions
that
counsel
made
related
to
the
commercial
linkage
fee.
The
next
phase
in
of
the
commercial
linkage
fee
occurs
in
January
on
January
1st
and
that's
the
tipping
point
that
we
have
heard
from
many
applicants
starts
to
actually
make
their
projects
economically
infeasible
as
well,
and
so
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
development
trends?
M
Anecdotally,
I,
don't
have
the
data.
Yet
we
were
trying
to
pull
that
today.
Yes,
things
are
slowing
down
a
little
bit
as
well,
and
so
I
think
there
are
several
tools
in
your
toolbox
using
our
powers
of
Zoning
to
ensure
that
we're
getting
the
outcomes
that
we
want
in
the
area
that
is
located
in
the
opportunities
on.
L
M
I
think
if
we
go
back
to
2015
and
remember
what
was
it
kind
of
occurring
in
the
community
at
the
time,
there
was
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
types
of
development
and
the
scale
of
development
that
was
occurring
in
certain
parts
of
town,
especially
in
the
boulder
valley,
regional
center.
The
area
surrounding
29th,
Street
and
so
I
think
that,
along
with
some
of
the
conversations
about
projects
that
are
maybe
outside
of
the
areas
that
we
would
anticipate
more
intense
development
or
taller
buildings,
those
applications
were
coming
in
for
Heights
exceptions
and
so
I
think.
M
The
concern
was
where
exactly
should
should
we
have
taller
buildings
within
the
community
and
so
in
in
reaction
to
that,
the
moratorium
was
put
into
place.
That
is
the
heighth
ordinance
that
we
have
today
and
it's
part
of
what
is
still
in
place
with
the
appendix
J
map
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
talk
about
as
we
work
through
phase
two
of
community
benefits
and.
L
M
L
M
Yeah
I
will
disclaimer
I'm,
not
a
financial
adviser
or
a
tax
attorney,
but
in
working
with
exactly
in
working
with
Evette
Bowden,
as
well
as
just
kind
of
monitoring
the
continued
regulations
of
the
IRS.
There
are
several
deadlines:
the
key
date
in
the
opportunity
zone,
regulations
and
the
legislation
is
December
31st
of
2026,
that's
a
key
date,
that's
in
the
legislation
and
you
work
backwards
off
of
that
date.
M
So
if
you
want
to
receive
the
maximum
IRS
benefit
from
using
an
opportunity
fund,
that's
seven
years
back
from
December
31st
of
2026,
which
is
December
31st
of
2019.
So
if
you
want
to
realize
the
full
seven-year
benefit
of
a
15%
deferral
on
your
capital
gain,
you
need
to
make
that
investment
by
the
end
of
this
year,
then
the
next
deadline,
if
is
a
five
year
increment,
so
that
December
of
2021,
that
would
be
a
10%
deferral
on
that
capital
gain
and
then,
after
2026.
M
If
you
continue
to
hold
that
investment
that,
for
at
least
ten
years,
then
you
obtain
the
full
benefit
and
then
there's
a
period
of
time
that
you
can.
You
can
continue
to
hold
a
piece
of
property
or
a
business
investment
that
that
there's
some
complicated
and
technical
pieces
related
to
one
additional
benefit
you
can
receive,
but
the
key
date
is
that
2026
timeline
and
working
back
from
that.
So.
L
That
by
pure
coincidence,
aligns
with
when
we
would
be
hoping
to
finish.
The
community
benefits
face
to
kind
of
Alliance
so
and
then
the
other
thing
too
was
the
industrial
zones
and
how
that
relates
to
the
opportunity
zone
and
how
that,
just
by
its
its
nature
of
the
industrial
zones,
how
those
also
kind
of
limit
what
can
happen.
That's.
M
Developments
in
the
industrial
zones
based
on
other
requirements
such
as
open
space
or
parking,
they
actually
hit
a
limit,
and
they
can't
even
realize
that
4.6
FA
are
so
right
now
the
industrial
zones,
the
way
the
zoning
is
written,
is
it
really
does
lower
the
development
potential
in
that
area?
That
was
a
decision
that
was
made
as
a
part
of
the
1997
rezoning
in
starting
to
try
and
address
our
jobs,
housing,
imbalance
and
so
I
think
our
industrial
zones
right
now
based
on
their
zoning,
don't
allow
for
a
significant
amount
of
redevelopment.
A
That
height
above
the
base
is
limited,
except
for
those
in
appendix
J,
which
are
areas
that
already
have
that
we
already
went
through
area
planning
for,
and
the
one
exception
to
that
is,
if
we're
going
to
get
40%,
affordable
housing,
which
we
have
agreed
as
a
community,
is
something
we
want.
So
on
the
off
chance.
Somebody
wants
to
give
us
40
percent,
affordable
units.
A
G
Would
add
that
we
also
put
in
one
of
the
highest
commercial
linkage
fees
in
the
country,
and
so
that
is
helping
to
slow
or
defer
development
or
get
us
housing
in
the
opportunity
zone.
So
all
of
these
things
I
think
are
working
together
in
synergy
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
get
is
something
that
we
want
in
terms
of
the
outcome.
So
we
want
housing,
we
don't
want
so
many
jobs.
We
want
to
get
a
little
more
balance
between
housing
and
jobs
in
this
community,
so
I
think.
G
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
manufactured
homes,
communities
in
the
in
the
opportunity
zone,
and
we
have
two
of
them
two
significant
ones
and
my
concern.
If
you,
you
know,
read
about
mobile
home
communities
and
people
wanting
to
make
big
investments
in
these
and
that
they
actually
are
a
big
investor
item.
I
am
very
concerned
of
what
might
happen
if
some
investor
plans
to
come
in
and
offer
a
current
owner
a
manufactured
home
community,
a
price
that
he
couldn't
say
no
to
and
what
that
would
do
to
that
community.
G
When
we
put
this
moratorium
in
place,
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
no
one
who
is
living
in
the
opportunity
zone
was
displaced
and
I'm
equally
committed
to
that
for
those
people
living
in
manufactured
housing,
communities
and
I'm.
My
only
concern
at
this
point
is
that
we
haven't
protected
those
communities
as
well
as
we
can
not
that
they
could
change
from
manufactured
housing
to
some
other
zone
or
designation,
but
that
somebody
might
come
in
and
say
hey.
This
is
the
next
Aspen
we
could
sell
you
a
really
nice
manufactured
home
for
a
million
dollars.
G
M
M
You
then
need
to
make
an
improvement
to
that
property,
a
50%
improvement
to
the
property,
and
you
have
to
do
that
within
it's
a
30
month
period,
and
so,
if
someone
were
to
buy
it,
they
still
have
to
do
a
bunch
of
improvements
to
the
property
and
achieve
that
and
so
I'm
not
sure,
based
on
my
understanding
of
depending
on
how
much
they
pay
for
the
property.
How
much
the
improvements
they
need
to
make,
whether
a
mobile
home
park
would
be
an
investment
as
someone
would
make
or
not.
I.
Don't
know
that
for
sure.
M
But
if
you
think
of
what
are
the
improvements
in
a
mobile
home
park,
it's
really
just
the
infrastructure
that
you
could
make
versus.
If
you
bought
a
building
that
you're
either
building
a
building
or
you're
doing
a
major
renovation
to
a
building.
You
have
a
building
as
the
major
asset
afterwards,
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
different
use,
and
so
that
would
be
some
thoughts
that
I
have
Kurt
anything
to
add.
L
So
that's
one
thing
and
I
mean
I
just
really
want
to
fully
discuss
this,
because
we've
gotten
so
much
email
on
it
and
and
I
think
that
well,
I
learned
a
lot
through
poking
around
on
on
with
questions.
But
one
other
thing
that
I
learned
about
today
was
that
the
the
opportunity
zone
legislation
actually
has
a
small
closet
that
was
put
in
by
Senator
Booker.
That
helps
that
can
help
small
businesses
and
if
you
could
explain
that
a
little
bit
Chris
I'd
appreciate
it
sure.
M
I
can
address
it
at
a
very
high
level
and
then
we
can
follow
up
if
you
want
more
additional
information,
but
there
are
components
where
you
can.
You
can
invest
in
a
small
business,
maybe
for
equipment
upgrades
or
something
like
that.
So
I
have
heard
about
businesses
that
are
in
that
next
phase
of
development,
where
there
may
be
going
from
startup
to
an
initial
phase
of
maybe
production
where
they
need
to
do
some
equipment
upgrades
and
they
need
capital
for
that.
D
I
Maybe
the
rest
of
you
have
all
had
this
available
to
you,
that
it
seems
to
me
that
if
we
could
go
through
some
of
these
things
more
slowly
with
the
moratorium
in
place
and
explain
it
so
that
the
wider
community
is
able
to
understand
what's
happening,
it
would
just
be
easier
for
everyone
involved
and
we
would
get
more
buy-in
that
way,
rather
than
seeming
like
we're
doing
just
putting
something
on
and
the
mobile
homes
alone.
I
think
are
a
huge
piece
of
this
and
making
sure.
I
As
best
we
can
and
Kris
just
pointed
out,
said
he'd
heard
of
examples.
One
of
the
things
that
I've
been
looking
for
throughout
has
been
examples
of
where
these
things
have
worked.
You
know
so
that
we
can
see
that
they
actually
do
benefit
the
community,
rather
than
all
the
horror
stories
which
we
have
heard.
I
We
I've
heard
plenty
of
at
this
point
and
most
recently,
this
New
York
Times
article
about
michael
milken's,
reno,
bending
the
rules
so
to
speak,
as
reported
by
the
New
York
Times,
so
I'm
really
uncomfortable
with
us
just
kind
of
going
ahead
without
I,
don't
see
where
the
harm
isn't
slowing
it
down.
Six
more
months,
go
by.
N
So
I
know
we're
gonna
have
a
new
council.
If
we
decide
to
do
this.
I
do
like
the
idea
of
more
buy-in,
because
clearly,
there's
upset
within
the
community
I
I
understand
what
was
set
up
here
today.
I
feel
comfortable.
However,
I
understand
that
the
wider
community
may
not
feel
comfortable
so
is
just
in
talking
through
it.
Is
there
a
way
of
pushing?
We
can
still
do
everything
that
we've
put
in
place,
because
I
think
it's
been
really
helpful.
N
D
Okay,
maybe
we
continue
to
moratorium,
but
I
think
the
information
that
we've
gotten
from
staff
as
we've
learned
that
Thursday,
you
know
we
know,
residents
will
be
displaced.
Our
mobile
home
parks
are
safe
from
redevelopment
and
you
can't
build
a
taller
building
unless
you
do
affordable
housing
just
made
these.
You
stable
changes
to
make
sure
that
any
development
that
comes
forward
would
be
in
alignment
with
our
comprehensive
plan
goals,
so
I
mean,
given
all
that
I
think
you
do
cause
harm
to
perfectly
innocent.
You
know
small
businesses
and
property
owners
by
maintaining
the
moratorium
so.
N
Couldn't
we
do
something?
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
remember
what
project
this
was
that
we
did
this
on
before,
but
we're
some
issues
like
that.
You
know
they
come
forward.
Tell
us
and
we
say:
okay
yeah,
you
can
move
forward
on
a
kind
of
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
still
keep
it
in
place
for
three
months
too.
So
we
can
get
the
rest
of
the
community
buy-in
but
don't
hold
up
again
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
some
ideas
here,
because,
yes,
we
can
pass
it
tonight,
I
feel
comfortable
with
it.
J
Yes,
I'm
pretty
comfortable
that
we
have
put
all
the
protections
in
place
that
we've
set
out
to
do
at
Geeko
and
I.
Think
that
Aaron's
point
about
the
small
businesses
that
are
caught
up
in
this
is
probably
what
I
see
is
the
biggest
risk
of
not
moving
forward
is
because
I
know
of
a
couple
as
well.
That
I
think
are
separate
from
the
ones
that
you're
talking
about.
So
we
got
a
note
from
a
person
who
is
trying
to
renovate
their
building
right
now
and
they've
had
to
wait
for
ten
months.
J
Well,
they
wanted
to
make
a
small
renovation.
They
will
have
no
opportunity
zone
funding
to
do
this
work
and
so
I
feel
like
we
need
to
move
forward
with
this.
We
can
continue
to
ask
more
from
staff
about
other
risks
that
we
haven't
addressed
that
we
may
find
later,
but
I
when
Chris
is
talking
about
the
investment
that's
being
made
in
the
physical
plant
of
small
companies.
That's
definitely
something
I've
been
reading
about
as
well,
but
it's
treated
differently
than
the
development
of
land
and
buildings.
J
I
So
if
I
recall
it's
to
me
when
we
were
talking
about
some
other
development
there,
someone
else-
maybe
it
was
Macy's-
was
complaining
about
being
held
up
and
we
were
told
that
there
was
no
hold
up
there
in
terms
of
doing
interior
reconstruction.
Is
that
true,
Chris
or
are
those
all
stopped
as
well?
Are.
I
M
Specific
to
Macy's
that
project
submitted
an
application
prior
to
the
moratorium.
I
have
heard
examples
of
property
owners
or
tenants
that
are
looking
to
do
improvements,
I,
don't
know
who
all
else
is
out
there,
because
right
now
we
aren't
accepting
applications.
We
have
had
some
folks
that
just
they
don't
come
in
to
see
us
right
now,
because
they
know
they
can't
submit
an
application
and
they're
just
waiting
so
I've
heard
stories,
but
I
don't
have
a
quantifiable
number
for
you.
E
I
want
to
thank
Mary
and
Sam
for
very
thoughtfully
walking
us
through
and
asking
some
really
really
good
questions,
and
that
was
a
good
education,
certainly
for
me,
and
probably
other
members
of
the
community.
One
thing
that
I
think
didn't
come
out,
maybe
clearly
enough
in
the
course
of
that
discussion
with
Chris
here
this
evening
and
I,
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
we
still
do
have
set
review
criteria
on
top
of
all
these
things.
E
On
top
of
all
the
things
that
we
talked
about,
and
so
no
very
big
project,
and
we
can
talk
up
what
about
what
triggers
as
I
review,
most
people's
do
can
be
approved
unless
there's
an
application,
there's
a
process
with
the
city
planning
staff,
and
then
they
see
the
Planning
Board
and
then
ultimately
call
up
by
council
and
so
on
top
of
all
the
various
things
that
Marian
and
Sam
I
think
did
a
good
job
of
highlighting
we
have,
we
haven't
lost
our
regulatory
authority.
We
still
have
our
land-use
authority.
E
I
Just
say
one
thing
to
that,
which
is
that
we've
seen
lots
of
development
come
through
here
that
the
community
and
members
of
this
council
are
unhappy
with.
You
know,
starting
right
for
the
reason
that
the
moratorium
went
in
place
and
the
height
moratorium
went
in
place
in
the
first
place.
Okay,
well.
L
L
We
do
affordable
housing
so
we're
not
going
to
be
tearing
down
the
buildings
and
displacing
anybody
save
for
when
we
are
going
to
be
remodeling
the
apartments
we
may
temporarily
pay
for
alternative
lodging
for
the
people
that
are
whose
apartment
is
being
remodeled
so
just
wanted
to
tie
a
bow
on
it.
Just
with
all
of
the
concerns
that
people
raised
over
the
weekend
and
through
today,.
D
Can
I
can
I
add
to
that
thanks
for
that
mayor
for
bringing
that
up
and
just
that
we
got
some
additional
information
from
staff
through
them
to
say
that
they
understand
that,
because
of
their
low-income
housing
tax
credit
funding,
which
was
done
in
2007,
that
they
have
a
30-year
requirement
to
maintain
that
site
as
affordable
housing.
So
at
a
minimum
they
have
to
maintain
it
through
2037.
K
Speak
to
that
in
your
packet,
you
had
proposed
amendment
item.
Oh
relates
to
the
project
at
30th
and
pearl,
as
we've
gotten
close
to
closing
on
the
financing
and
the
construction
in
a
couple.
Two
issues
arose.
The
one
that's
identified
in
your
packet
is
a
city
rule
that
says
that
the
city
is
not.
The
city
cannot
allow
any
construction
over
an
easement,
and
so
we
generally
do
revocable
permits
to
allow
constructions
over
an
easement
in
this
project.
K
K
As
you
know,
the
city's
code
embodies
what
we
call
the
some
principles
for
parking,
which
requires
separate
unbundled,
managed
paid
parking,
and
in
this
case
we
are
asking
for
the
the
proposed
ordinance
would
give
the
city
manager
the
authority
to
waive
those
requirements
when
necessary
to
have
affordable
housing
like
this.
Not
this.
This
doesn't
come
up
all
the
time,
but
it
has
been
a
problem
in
other
projects,
so
we're
requesting
that
council
passed
these
two
proposed
ordinance.
This
ordinances
on
emergency
in
202
make
these
two
changes
to
help
facilitate
the
construction
of
this
important
project.
G
Don't
think
we
have
enough
information
to
drill
down
to
it.
But
I
would
hope
that
the
next
council
will
look
into
this,
and
is
this
really
commiserate
with
what
other
people
pay
for
space
for
their
their
place?
And
is
it
comparable
to
what
we
have
like,
maybe
down
at
the
boulder
street
at
the
boulder
street
mall?
You
know
in
terms
of
what
your
square
footage
prices
is.
It
seems
a
little
bit
high
and
I
would
hope
we
are
getting
what
we
are
paying
for
in
return
and
that
it
needs
to
be.
I
I
So
it's
the
chamber
presentation
it's
from
the
CBB
saying
that
as
you
thank
you
blah
blah
blah
as
you
requested.
This
is
the
presentation
the
chamber
public
policy
team
gave
and
it
had
to
do
with
the
Chamber's
candidate
forum
and
then
who
they
recommended-
and
this
is
all
posted
here
with
city
money
with
City.
Supposedly
it
looks
like
it's
a
condoning
because,
of
course
it
doesn't
give
the
other
groups
whomever
they
may
be,
what
their
scorecards
are,
and
so
this
because
this
is
all
city
tax
money.
I
That's
doing
this
kind
of
thing,
I
find
it
really
a
mess
and
having
been
involved
in
campaign
finance
reform
for
such
a
long
time
and
having
such
an
interest
in
it.
This
is
the
very
kind
of
thing
that
we
are
trying
to
stop,
and
this
has
probably
gone
on
before
and
how
it
has
happened
that
we
support
the
chamber
in
such
a
big
way,
with
the
tax
money
that
is
paid
to
rent
space
for
the
CVB,
and
then
the
CBB
is
touting
the
Chamber's
candidates
with
our
tax
money.
I
K
I
K
K
D
You
go
so
just
just
speak
up
a
little
bit
since
I'm
one
of
the
candidates
on
the
ballot
here
this
year,
but
just
that
no
no
nonprofit
is
allowed
to
endorse
candidates,
and
so
no
candidates
have
been
endorsed
by
any
nonprofit,
including
the
Boulder
chamber.
I've
seen
I've
seen
they
they,
along
with
a
number
of
other
organizations,
have
put
out
scorecards
where
they
say.
D
What
are
the
different
candidates
think
about
different
issues
right,
so
a
scorecard
is
not
an
endorsement,
so
I
don't
know
why
I
don't
know
about
all
the
rest
of
the
materials,
but
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
that,
while
various
organizations
have
endorsed
that
are
a
political
advocacy
organizations
nonprofits,
including
the
Boulder
chamber,
have
not
endorsing
candidates.
Okay,.
E
Want
to
come
back
to
Lisa's
point
I'm
I'm.
Currently
the
council
liaison
the
CBB
I,
don't
know
if
I'll
be
that
in
the
future,
but
but
what
I
will
do
Lisa
in
response
to
your
question
is:
is
ask
the
CVV
to
prepare
a
memo
for
council
kind
of
summarizing
in
greater
detail?
What
we
got
last
week
about
the
rant
and
do
some
comparables
to
other
other
rent
arrangements,
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
it's
market
rate
no.
G
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out:
erinite
I
hear
what
you
say,
but
what
the
it's,
what
they
do
is
identify
all
of
the
candidates
positions
and
specifically
those
who
agree
with
the
Chamber's
position.
So
I
mean
I.
Look
at
this
and
there
are
a
lot
of
greens
on
there
and
there
for
Janet
some
candidates,
and
then
there
are
a
lot
of
Reds
and
there's
some
Gold's,
which
is
apparently
not
applicable.
So
all
I'm
saying
is
that
this
again,
this
is
city
tax
money
that
this
is
appeared
to
the
wider
public
and
I.
D
I
A
I
A
Right,
okay,
okay,
so
so
noted,
and
maybe
the
next
council
look
and
see
if,
if
they
feel
like
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
in
terms
of
campaign,
because
you
know
each
year
new
stuff
crops
up
and
we
have
to
decide
whether
or
not
we
feel
like
it
feels
right,
given
our
campaign
finance
laws.
So
with
that
this
has
been
a
long
discussion
about
a
long
consent
agenda.
That's
got
a
lot
of
stuff
in
it.
So
with
that,
is
there
anything
more
to
be
said
on
any
of
these
items?
A
I
A
C
A
I
A
Q
All
right,
thank
you,
I'd,
like
to
start
by
thanking
everyone
for
being
here,
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
my
wonderful
Task
Force
colleagues,
for
the
many
hours
of
work
that
they
put
into
this
project.
I
would
like
to
thank
our
facilitator,
dr.
Carolyn
Love,
who
was
with
us
tonight,
and
all
the
city
staff
for
the
assistance
that
we've
given
us,
and
can
you
introduce
yourself
that
was
yeah?
Oh,
you
know
it's
coming,
okay,
excellent!
Yes!
So
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
have
not
met
me
yet,
my
name
is
Todd
Conklin
I'm.
Q
Q
Okay,
so
as
a
reminder,
the
task
force
has
recommended
for
your
consideration.
An
auditor
monitor
oversight
model
combined
with
a
police
oversight
panel
made
up
of
11
diverse
community
members.
The
ordinance
before
you
outlines
the
following.
The
city
will
hire
an
auditor
monitor
to
accept
complaints
involving
police
employees,
monitor
internal
investigations
to
ensure
objective,
thorough
and
high-quality
investigations
and
develop
recommendations
to
improve
police
services
and
policies.
They
will
also
have
access
to
all
police
data.
Q
In
order
to
carry
out
these
functions,
the
initial
auditor
will
be
hired
and
held
accountable
to
the
city
manager
and
will
be
housed
physically
in
a
location
that
is
independent
of
the
police
department.
Additionally,
the
auditor
monitor
will
act
as
a
liaison
and
provide
staff
support
to
the
police
oversight
panel,
but
they
will
not
be
a
voting
member
of
the
police
oversight
panel
and
they
will
not
be
a
member.
They
will
strictly
be
a
liaison
to
that
panel.
They
will
also
work
to
build
relationships
with
the
community
and
the
police
department.
Q
So
the
second
part
of
this
model
is
the
police
oversight
panel.
This
panel
will
be
made
up
of
11,
diverse
community
members
and
also
one
representative
from
the
police
department
that
will
act
as
a
liaison.
The
representative
from
the
police
department
will
also
not
be
a
member
and
they
will
be
not
voting
on
anything
related
to
the
police
oversight
panel.
This
panel
will
review,
completed
investigations
and
give
recommendations
based
on
the
disposition
of
the
investigation
and
the
level
of
discipline
that
should
be
carried
out.
Q
It
will
also
analyze
data,
in
collaboration
with
the
auditor,
monitor
to
make
policy
program
and
training
recommendations
to
the
Chief
of
Police.
It
will
also
provide
feedback
on
the
performance
of
the
auditor
monitor
it
will
provide
forums
to
hear
community
concerns
regarding
incident,
specific
police
actions,
broader
questions
regarding
policing
and
they
will
seek
to
foster
healthy
community
relations
between
the
police
and
the
community.
Q
Going
forward
with
this
process,
we
want
a
phased
implementation
process,
given
the
level
of
detail
that
is
going
to
be
required
and
the
complexity
of
the
forthcoming
implementation.
We
will
continue
forward
as
a
task
force
with
an
implementation
committee
task
force.
Members
who
have
agreed
to
participate
through
the
phased
implementation
include
myself:
Shawn
Ray,
Pass,
ilaqua,
Sophia
Pelecanos,
my
critique
John
Gifford
Michelle
Denis,
Michelle,
Simpson,
Christian
Gardner
wood
to
police
representatives
who
are
Carlene,
Hoffman
and
Pam
Gignac
is
also
anticipated
by
us
as
a
task
force.
Q
E
Q
It's
hard
to
say
how
long
it
will
take,
because
we
haven't
yet
started
the
implementation
process.
We're
gonna
get
up
and
running
on
that
in
about
the
next
two
weeks.
We
assume
and
then
once
we
have
that
we
can
probably
send
a
memo
to
Council
estimating
how
long
we
think
it
will
take
okay
and
then
what
was
your
second
question
and.
F
D
A
G
L
Q
Q
L
Q
In
the
model
that
we
originally
proposed,
the
final
decision
was
going
to
be
left
with
the
police
chief
and
that
the
investigation
would
go
through
the
auditor
monitor
who
would
have
been
review
it,
and
it
also
go
to
the
police
oversight
panel,
who
would
review
the
disposition.
Give
a
recommendation
on
that
and
the
discipline
give
a
recommendation
on
that,
and
then
it
would
go
to
the
police
chief.
That
is
what
we
decided
as
a
task
force,
and
that
is
what
we
believe
is
the
best
option
and
we
are
comfortable
with
that.
Great
that's
helpful.
So.
L
That
raises
another
question
for
me,
so
one
of
the
objectives
of
this
panel
is
to
increase,
restore
better
trust
in
police,
and
so
it
seems
to
me
that
when
the
police
chief
is
is
left
with
the
final
decision,
there
is
some
element
of
of
not
being
of
not
being
able
to
carry
forth
on
that
objective.
So
could
you
just
comment
on
that?
Please
short.
Q
You
said
you
wanted
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
the
community
and
have
a
good
relationship.
One
of
the
other
roles
we
have
defined
for
the
police
oversight
panel
is
that
they're
going
to
be
holding
community
forums
they're
going
to
be
out
talking
to
people
educating
people
about
what
they're
doing
what
needs
to
be
done,
what
the
goals
are,
and
we
think
in
doing
that,
that
we
will
create
a
healthy
relationship
between
the
police,
the
community
and
this
panel
as
well
and.
L
So
that
raises
another
question
about
the
I:
think,
that's
that's
great.
Maintaining
the
relationship
with
the
community
and
doing
the
outreach
I
think
that's
that's!
That
will
go
a
long
way,
but
ultimately,
what
you
want
is
to
be
able
to
somehow
measure
that
the
trust
has
been
bettered
and
how
have
you
had
any
discussion
about
that
or
any
ideas
on
how
to
do
that.
So.
Q
A
Q
J
Discussion
to
Mary's
point
was
there
any
discussion
of
doing
statistically
valid
surveys,
both
the
community
as
a
whole,
within
potentially
underrepresented
groups
within
the
community,
to
try
and
do
that
perception
he's
that
Mary's
talking
about
so
that
there
could
be
a
baseline
established
and
then,
as
the
process
runs
over
the
course
of
many
years,
we
could
track
what
the
perceptions
are.
Are
they
changing
in
a
positive
way,
they're
going
the
other
way.
Did
you
guys
talk
about
any
of
the
details
around
that
so.
Q
That
will
also
be
an
implementation
question,
but
that
is
going
to
be
absolutely
critical.
Is
constant
outreach
to
community
so,
whatever
form
that
takes
in
the
question
you
asked,
we
will
absolutely
be
doing
some
form
of
that
of
constantly
reaching
out
to
the
community
to
gauge
how
they
feel.
Okay,.
A
H
A
H
That
I
don't
want
to
say
that
our
survey
is
superficial,
but
it's
just
asking
sort
of
an
easy
question
and
I:
don't
think
that
we
have
broken
it
down
based
on
demographics.
I
think
we
probably
could
do
that,
but
I
just
feel
like
like
more
questions,
would
really
get
at
the
perception
who
feels
that
way
and
the
basis
for
it.
So,
okay,
I
think
the
idea
of
a
different
survey
will
be
the
right
thing.
That's.
A
R
Well,
counsel
officer
mark
Whaley
union
president
of
Boulder
Police
Department,
the
first
one
I
wish
those
who
are
leaving
before
us
happy
endeavors
on
your
new
chapter
in
your
life,
so
I
sincerely
wish
you
the
best.
I
wanted
to
speak
on
behalf
of
over
180
sworn
officers
at
the
Boulder
Police
Department,
as
we
move
into
the
next
phase
of
the
oversight.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
work
has
gone
into
getting
to
where
we
are
today.
R
R
So
I
am
up
here
today
as
a
reminder
and
as
as
we
recognize
as
a
police
department
of
my
membership,
that
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
because
in
an
effort
with
that
direction,
again,
we
look
for
this
as
an
opportunity
with
the
subcommittee
and
having
a
couple
of
our
officers
involved,
myself
included
when
necessary.
As
is
one
of
the
persons
who
subject
matter,
asked
expert
those
kind
of
things
on
these
areas.
R
The
boulder
Police
Officers
Association
and
the
boulder
police
union
has
identified
several
areas
that
we
have
concerns
about
how
it's
initially
put
together,
but
also
knowing
that
these
things
should
be
worked
out
in
time.
Those
details
allow
us
as
long
as
we
are
given
that
time
and
not
not
rush
to
any
kind
of
final
outcome
in
this.
R
We
also
know
in
closing
that
this
is
a
collective
effort.
This
is
not
only
involving
police
task
force,
but
at
the
community
as
well
and
instilling
some
of
those
things
you
talked
about
on
the
survey,
whereas
also
for
our
officers,
who
have
to
live
with
the
final
outcome
product
that
will,
as
in
this
last
oversight,
thing
was
in
place
for
over
a
couple
decades,
so
we
want.
We
know
it's
something
that
we
have
to
be
comfortable
in,
knowing
that
we
can
live
with
again
for
the
officers
and
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
Thank
you.
S
High
Council
I
want
to
reiterate
what
Mark
shared
about
wishing
you
the
best
those
of
you
who
are
leaving
council
some
of
you
after
a
very
long
time.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
I
also
want
to
thank
that
task.
Force
members
Todd
and
dr.
love,
who
are
here
tonight
and
all
those
who
are
wisely
sitting
at
home,
probably
warm
I
hope
for
their
hard
work.
S
We,
as
the
n-double-a-cp
did
send
some
concerns
with
the
ordinance
as
we
read
it
and
the
feedback
we
got
mainly
addressed
either
misunderstandings
or
clarified
things
that
personally
made
me
feel
better
about
it,
for
example,
that
the
final
police
oversight
panel
will
not
have
a
voting
member.
It
was
a
police
officer
or
the
auditor
monitor,
and
while
we
I
think
still
disagree
on
the
final
position
that
the
police
chief
should
make
final
decisions,
we
certainly
recognize
that
they
put
in
a
lot
of
work
and
come
to
that
decision.
S
Quite
knowledgeable.
My
concern
and
personally
is
that
you
know
we
have
a
very
good
model
of
this
in
Denver,
it's
a
very
similar
oversight
model.
They
have
an
office
of
independent,
monitor
and
the
citizens
had
to
go
to
the
polls
and
and
change
the
law
there,
because
police
were
stymieing
his
efforts
to
to
do
his
job
now.
I,
don't
know
if
that
will
happen
here,
but
we
know
it's
happened.
We
know
that
in
Denver
he
has
put
out
recommendations
and
the
police
haven't
followed.
S
There's
been
so
so
much
support
and
understanding
their
hard
work
that
that
I
really
appreciate
all
of
you
have
have
given
that
and
I
think
our
police,
ultimately
I,
just
don't
understand
how
they
can
be
scared
of
the
community.
They
serve
asking
them
to
treat
that
community
fairly.
That's
it.
Thank
you
just.
J
Have
a
quick
comment:
I
would
just
make
the
comment
of
the
observation
that
changes,
often
scary,
and
so
it
may
be,
perhaps
not
a
fear
of
the
community.
So
much
as
a
fear
of
what
the
process
will
look
like
so
I
think
it'll
be
great
work
for
everyone
to
do
together
with
the
task
force
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
we
get
an
outcome
that
really
is
serving
our
community
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
put
out
the
observation
that
could
be
a
sphere
of
change.
Thanks.
T
Gotta
say
I
got
a
say
in
the
very
beginning:
that's
one
of
the
first
times
he
called
me
at
the
4th
I
appreciate
that,
because,
as
I've
said
before,
I'm,
not
my
father
and
my
father's
father,
no
my
father's
father's
father
I
am
the
fourth.
So
that
being
said,
hello,
City,
Council
nice
to
see
everyone
today
got
a
jump
in
the
same
bandwagon
again
and
thank
everybody
that
has
been
a
part
of
this
task
force.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
love
as
well
as
thank
you.
T
It's
very
amazing,
to
see
the
work
that
has
been
done.
I
haven't
been
able
to
follow
all
the
way
because
timeframes,
change
and
with
that
disabilities
show
up
a
little
later
in
the
date,
so
not
really
a
good
idea
to
be
out
that
late.
That
being
said,
earliest
year,
the
people
of
the
city
cried
out
and
demanded
change.
A
shift
from
a
draconian
escapade
of
allotting
that
bpb
BPD
to
handle
investigating
its
own
as
a
DAC,
Anson,
Michelle,
Rodriguez,
Kelly,
Clark
and
I
are
all
examples
from
this
year
alone
of
their
failures.
T
T
In
response
to
this
decry
13
members
of
this
community,
coupled
with
the
assistance
from
officers,
an
amazing
facilitator
have
created
unto
us
these
models.
I
thank
everyone
involved
in
this
matter.
That
being
said,
we
go
from
April
to
October
to
the
reason
past
the
sea,
our
leaders,
axel
added
acquiescent
as
pd
reps,
emphasize
resistance
to
full
and
independent
oversight.
We
have
already
decided
as
a
community
that
our
pd
cannot
be
trusted
to
investigate
themselves,
nor
make
those
calls
we,
as
a
community
of
the
scars
to
back
our
stance.
T
True
healing
starts
when
you're
independent
of
the
things
hurting
you
so
stop
getting
in
the
way
of
our
healing
pd.
You
have
had
too
much
comfort
being
a
helicopter
parent
without
taking
the
time
to
listen,
your
community,
your
children,
the
people
you
protect,
you
serve
likewise
to
members
our
community.
We
need
to
work
together.
I
know
this
is
difficult
right
now.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us,
the
traumatized
community,
to
work
together
to
start
healing
I
believe
in
all
of
you
to
do
what's
right.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
again,
thank
you.
T
O
You
know
it
was
or
no
the
air
conditioning
it
was
really
cool.
It
was
this
summer
and
I
can't
bring
all
my
warm
clothes
in
the
summertime
to
the
courtroom,
and
my
panniers
won't
fit
at
that
much
him.
My
bike,
so
I
was
thrown
out
and
I
wanted
to
watch
that
trial
for
a
week
and
I'd
already
put
in
a
day
and
a
half
and
so
I'm
real
pissed
off.
O
It
reminds
me
of
Stan,
Garnett
and
Jill
gray,
know
and
Jay,
Hebb
and
food
house.
Whole
thing
just
makes
me
real
upset
all
over
again
and
makes
me
think
way.
Back
to
left
for
dink
cindy
remembers
him,
probably
the
left
for
dink
that
you
know
ripped
off
the
city,
people,
the
colorado
building
and
then
left
on
his
helicopter
and
escaping
with
his
girlfriend
to
be
picked
up
later
on.
O
So
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
this
community
for
justice,
but
then
I'm
from
the
coast
and
community
policing
and
restorative
justice
I've
heard
talk
about
it
for
30
years,
and
it's
just
a
lot
of
talk
and
when
I
try
to
intervene
it
all
with
the
police,
I
get
really
treated
badly
and
I.
Don't
appreciate
it,
and
so
I
hope
that
your
police
over
I
think
it's
gonna
work
out
because,
as
it
stands,
I'm
not
gonna
call
the
police,
not
my
life
depended
on
it
in
this
town,
not
after
the
next
door
thing.
O
That's
some
Halloween
deal
a
bench
person
on
11th
or
10th
and
delwood,
and
you
know
there's
some
serious
people
around
this
town.
That
I've
got
some
really
demented
ideas,
and
this
is
not
Halloween
thing.
You
know,
there's
serious
issues
here
and
I'd
like
to
depend
upon
my
police,
but
not
as
this
dance.
So
good
luck.
I
I
Good
change,
a
good
move,
I'm
extremely
grateful
to
the
task
force.
I
think
they've
done
such
a
thorough
job
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
I
do
trust
that
our
police
will
be
taking
up,
as
they
should
be
their
end
of
the
bargain
here
and
look
forward
to
seeing
the
positive
change
that
will
be
happening
in
the
community.
A
And
I
would
just
add
I
think
we've
taught
them
in
the
past,
but
bears
repeating
just
how
thankful
we
are
to
the
task
force
for
all
the
work
they
put
in
and
for
really
I
think
embodying
coming
together
of
the
community
and
really
working
through
the
issues
in
watching
you
last
I
guess
it
was.
A
study
was
a
study
session.
How
mindful
you
were
about
the
differences
of
opinions,
even
within
your
group
and
how
you
treated.
A
A
The
way
that
you
are
addressing
some
of
these,
these
are
tricky
issues.
These
are
hard
issues
and
you're
doing
it
I
think
very
respectfully,
with
the
police
department
and
trying
to
have
a
craft,
something
that
will
work
for
them
as
well,
so
that
it
will
actually
be
embraced
and
lead
to
meaningful
evolution
of
racial
bias
and
racial
equity
in
our
community.
L
L
Your
hard
work
was
exemplary
and
the
amount
of
time
in
which
you
did
it
was
just
mind-boggling
and
it
was
a
well
selected
group
of
people
and
a
well
selected
facilitator.
So
thank
you
very
much.
I
just
have
just
a
few
things
to
perhaps
have
you
think
about
as
you
go
through
the
implementation
process,
and
that
would
be
to
consider
a
you
know.
I
asked
about
the
the
final
decision
resting
with
the
police
chief
and
I,
was
trying
to
think
of
a
I.
L
L
So
just
really
have
a
look
at
that,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
might
be
helpful
would
be
to
run
the
Atkinson
case
through
the
process
and
see
where
it
would
end
up
giving
the
city
model
or
any
of
the
other
cases
to
see
how
how
it
works.
So
those
are
just
some
suggestions
and
thank
you
once
again.
H
J
I
just
want
us
to
go
back
to
the
weeks
after
March
1st
and
realize
at
that
time
there
was
so
much
deserved
community
anger
about
what
had
occurred,
and
you
know
sitting
here
in
these
chambers
on
the
18th
and
hearing
that
I'm
just
so
grateful
that
we've
gotten
to
this
place
so
far,
because
it's
a
huge
amount
of
progress.
It's
obviously
been
praised
for
your
work
and
I
agree
with
all
of
that.
J
But
I
just
want
to
say
as
an
overall
community
and
not
just
the
task
force
I
feel
like
there
have
been
some
very
difficult
conversations
that
needed
to
be
had
and
they
have
been
not
completely
had
but
they've
been
started,
and
this
feels
like
really
good
place
to
have
arrived,
that
given
where
we
started
and
given
the
community
anger
and
frustration
and
unhappiness
and
now
we're
at
this
place,
where
you
have
done
a
whole
bunch
of
work.
That
has
got
us.
J
This
great
work
product
now
and
I'm
hopeful
that
it
can
continue
on
as
thoroughly
and
positively,
because
I
really
do
feel
like
it's
moved.
The
community,
along
as
as
a
community
and
so
I,
know
that
the
conversations
will
still
be
tough,
but
that's
okay.
You
know
the
the
good
work
requires
tough
conversations
and
so
I
appreciate
you
engaging
in
them
look
forward
to
seeing
where
we're
gonna
go
and
thanks
for
all
your
work.
D
Yes,
so
I
don't
agree
with
everything
that
my
colleagues
have
said:
Sam
that
was
very
well
put
just
now
and
also
willing
to
think
that
and
double-a-c-p
for
their
contributions
to
this
process.
You
know
Mary
and
I,
sat
down
with
Darren
and
Jude
and
a
net
from
the
n-double-a-cp
to
select
the
task
force,
panelists
I
think,
and
it
was
a
very
productive
process,
although
challenging
sometimes
but
I.
Think
the
the
folks
on
the
task
force
have
done
an
extraordinary
job.
I'm
really
I,
hadn't
imagined
it
would.
D
The
quality
of
the
work
would
be
is
so
high
and
so
look
very
much
forward
to
passing
this
tonight.
You
know
we
have
a
like
Sam
said:
we've
we've
come
a
couple
of
important
steps
down
a
road
towards
rebuilding
and
improving
trust
with
the
community,
particularly
folks
of
color
and
african-americans
in
the
community.
This
is
a
long
journey
and
this
is
one
step
that
we're
taking
tonight.
I.
Think
it's
an
important
one,
but
we
have
many
more
steps
and
you
know
committed
personally
to
doing
what
I
can
to
help
continue
down
that
path.
A
A
C
P
P
A
P
F
J
L
H
Okay,
so
CAC
and
council
requested
that
we
end
our
amazing
two-year
council
session,
with
a
discussion
of
council
priorities,
update
and
future
priorities
discussion
so
turn
to
the
next
line.
So
as
a
result
of
our
conversations
in
the
first
retreat
that
we
did
in
2018
and
the
one
that
we
did
in
January
of
2019,
we
had
a
number
of
priorities.
We've
created
a
slide
that
shows
where
we
are
you've
completed,
most
of
them
bill.
H
Cohen
did
ask
me
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
vision,
zero
one
we've
indicated
as
complete
and,
of
course,
the
truth
about
the
substance
of
vision.
Zero
was
that
we'll
never
be
complete,
we're
all
will
always
be
working
on
it,
but
we
large
it
as
complete,
because
we
wanted
to
finish
the
transportation
master
plan
and
the
safety
report
that
we
did
give
to
Council.
So
those
specific
things
that
we
had
indicated
in
the
council
retreats
early
on
have
been
completed,
but
we
will
always
be
working
on
vision,
zero.
H
A
couple
of
the
items
are
in
progress
and
in
the
course
of
the
time
that
we
were
working
with
council,
we
ended
up
breaking
up
the
community
benefit
and
the
youth
tables
into
two
different
phases.
But
the
first
phase
is
in
fact
complete
and
then
the
one
item
that
I
think
remains
on
hold
I
guess
I'll
say,
is
the
large
lot
homes
and
lots
which
was
actually
added
at
the
retreat
in
2019,
and
so
we
didn't
have
a
full
two
years
to
do
that.
H
A
So
I
had
one
clarification,
which
was
I'm,
not
presuming
to
tell
the
next
council
what
their
priorities
are.
What
that
was
for
us
to
do
a
handoff
of
issues
that
you
will
inherit
and
you
will
do
with
them
what
you
will,
but
some
of
these
things
are
already
in
motion
and
I
wanted
to
just
have
a
little
bit
of
a
community
conversation
and
handoff,
because.
A
Yes,
they're
going
to
land
in
your
left
and
I,
some
of
them
are
really
important
in
their
pending,
so
I
think
that's
more
what
I
wanted
to
make
sure
we
did
so
there's
a
well.
Let's
talk
about
the
body
of
work
that
we
that
that's
on
this
slide
and
then
maybe
we
can
talk
about
some
additional
things
that
we
also.
A
E
To
make
it
more
of
an
observation
and
a
recommendation
to
the
next
council
I
think
these
were
great
goals
and
I
think
a
lot
of
what
was
accomplished
in
the
last
couple
years.
I
think
we
should
be
very
proud
of
what
we've
accomplished
a
couple
of
the
topics
and
Jane
called
it.
A
vision,
zero
and
I
can
think
of
some
other
things
that
maybe
climate
commitment
are
really
ongoing.
Things
and
I
would
recommend,
while
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
those
front
and
center
vision,
zero
and
climate
commitment.
Some
other
things.
E
I
think
it'd
be
probably
helpful
for
the
next
council
to
have
distinct,
measurable,
achievable,
concrete
goals,
so
we
can
check
the
box,
so
I
mean
climate
commitment,
for
example.
That
will
be
on
I'm
sad
to
say
that
will
be
something
that
will
probably
be
on
councils
agenda
for
many
many
many
many
years
and
so
it'd
be
nice
to
break
that
down
into
achievable
actionable
items
so
that
we
can
look
back.
Whoever
looks
back
two
years
from
now
or
four
years,
four
nuns
they're
right.
E
These
are
the
five
things
we
wanted
to
get
down,
for
example,
climate
commitment.
We
got
four
of
them
done
all
five
of
them
done.
I
just
think
we
should
be
a
little
bit
more
actionable
or
the
next
council
should
be
a
little
bit
more
actionable.
I
think
these
are
these
are
great
things
and
and
I'm
really
happy
with
what
we
got
done.
A
A
A
I
mean
the
community
benefit
piece,
the
site
review
criteria,
the
use
tables
I
mean
that's
hard,
slogging
the
sort
of
work
and
and
really
really
important
so
and
some
of
those
have
a
phase
two
that
I
think
is
really
important
and
I
guess
I
would
urge
the
next
council
to
get
those
across
the
finish
line
because
they're
well
on
their
way.
I
am
sorry
that
we
didn't
get
to
large
homes
and
lots
I,
think
probably
that
probably
needs
to
be
reframed
in
a
way
with
bite,
size,
pizzas,
pieces.
A
Pizzas
have
you
wish
that
can
be
addressed,
but
I
still
think
that's
an
issue.
I
also
want
to
I
think
there's
certain
issues
that
we
should
also
make
sure
to
keep
the
public
engaged
on
and
updated
on
ones
that
are
spanning
multiple
years.
I.
Think
municipal
ization
is
one
of
those
it's
a
priority.
A
lot
of
work
is
going
into
it.
A
A
lot
of
money's
going
into
it
and
it's
very
important
and
I
think
the
next
year
and
a
half
I
wish
it
was
just
the
next
year,
but
the
next
couple
years
are
gonna,
be
really
important
and
I.
Think
it's
a
it's
incumbent
upon
the
next
council
to
ensure
that
the
community
discussion
about
that
happen
in
a
very
public
in
a
very
inclusive
way.
G
None
of
these
projects
get
done
by
just
turning
a
switch
on
and
that
they're
really
complex
and
that
you
have
multiple
players,
multiple
aspects
of
it
that
you
have
to
consider
before
you
can
go
to
the
next
step
so
anyway,
I'm
good
with
this
I
didn't
bring
up
anything
in
this
this
regard
and
not
to
seek
my
comments
until
later,
I
did
bring
up
a
issue
of
indexing,
so
people
can
more
easily
and
I
didn't
mean
the
council
members
I
meant
this.
The
community
can
more
easily
follow
our
different
topics
and
follow
them
sequentially.
L
So
I'll
confer
with
Suzanne's
assessment
and
hopefully
it'll
be
a
smooth
handoff,
but
I
agree
with
Lisa
to
a
lot
of
these
have
taken
a
long
long
time,
but
I
also
think
that
this
is
my
third
counsel,
and
this
is
probably
by
far
the
council
that
has
accomplished
the
most,
in
my
view,
and
also
in
less
than
50
meetings.
My
first
feeling
yeah
my
first
council
we
had
so
we
had.
We
had
gone
over
50
meetings
in
September
and
I.
Remember,
staying
up
till
1:30
a
lot
and
and
I.
L
Don't
remember
this
level
of
accomplishment
so
kudos
to
this
council
and
to
staff
who
supported
all
this
I
mean
you
guys
do
the
heavy
lifting
and
the
amount
of
creativity
in
the
time
frames
that
would
provide
it.
I
think
was
just
outstanding.
So
big
thanks
to
staff
and
I
also
want
to
say
you
know
to
also
to
Lisa's
point
about
turning
the
switch.
The
community
benefit
project
and
it's
only
the
phase
one,
but
that's
been
something
that
I've
been
advocating
for
for
12
years.
J
I
just
want
to
thank
staff.
This
is
a
very
planning
heavy
set
of
accomplishments
that
we
got,
which
meant
that
our
planning
staff
had
to
really
prioritize
and
then
take
down
through
the
things
where
Mary
has
been
looking
for
community
benefit
and
putting
that
into
site
plan
review.
I've
been
very
supportive
of
that.
I
have
been
wanting
to
see
the
use,
tables
and
standards
have
a
look
at
because
it's
been
20
years
since
that
has
last
happened
and
a
lot
changes
in
20
years
and
so
just
kudos
to
staff.
J
For
that,
I'm
also
pleased
that
we
have
the
middle
income
downpayment
pilot
in
front
of
the
voters.
You
know
they
will
speak.
We
maybe
I
could
have
done
the
slightly
better
job
at
the
ballot
language.
Phrasing
I
didn't
catch,
an
error
I
could
have,
but
still
at
all,
it's
there
and
the
substance
is
there
and
we
will
see
if
the
community
is
willing
to.
Let
us
borrow
money
to
get
people
into
middle-income
housing.
I
just
want
to
call
out.
J
You
know
the
South
Boulder
Creek
flood
mitigation
project
that
is
gonna
land
in
the
next
council
and
then
the
council.
After
that,
I
mean
realistically,
if
you
look
at
both
the
permitting
and
the
construction
time,
that's
gonna
push
us
out.
You
know
a
couple
councils,
and
so
the
next
council
will
have
to
look
at
that
project
as
something
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
all
due
speed.
But
it's
a
design
and
engineering
project
and
it's
gonna
require
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
EPA,
the
state
dam
safety
engineer.
J
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
layers
to
what
is
gonna
happen
and
that's
helpful
to
Creek
flood
mitigation
project
and
there's
partners
that
we
don't
have
direct
control
of
in
C,
dot
and
Cu
and
so
on.
So
there
will
have
to
be
some
finesse
in
that
one,
but
I
think
overall
staff
has
really
done
good.
This
council
has
done
pretty
good
and
you
know
that's
a
long
list
of
stuff.
D
On
that
a
little
bit
yeah
and
I'll
just
just
quickly
I'll
call
out
the
open
space
master
plan,
which
was
a
process
that
I
thought
went
extremely
well.
Mary
and
I,
of
course,
served
on
the
subcommittee
for
many
many
months
and
so
I
thought.
Engagement
with
community
was
fantastic
on
that
I'm,
proud
that
we
all
got
that
done
and
just
just
the
I
think
the
one
that
we
have
made.
The
the
less
progress
that
I
would
like
to
particulars
that
self
motor
Creek
flood
mitigation
and
so
I.
Think
it's
really.
F
G
B
G
Gonna
mention
one
more
thing,
and
that
is
that
we're
finally
doing
another
major
sub,
Community,
Plan
and
I
came
out
of
the
North
Boulder
sub
community
plan
and
I.
Think
it's
an
incredible
way
to
do
planning
on
including
the
community
and
really
getting
a
good
view
and
vision
for
what
the
community
wants
in
that
part
in
their
part
of
town
and
so
I'm
very
excited
that
we
have
that
and
it'll
be
the
second
sub
Community
Plan.
D
No
no
I
just
realized
the
one
that
we
haven't
mentioned
is
the
housing
advisory
board,
which
has
been
a
long
long
held
goal
and
I
see
actually
two
members
of
the
housing
advisory
board
out
in
the
audience.
How
you
all,
thanks
for
all
the
great
work
that
you've
been
doing
since
that
board,
was
formed
some
at
least
of
course,
there's
probably
your
viewers
are
very
long.
G
A
Some
additional
topics
not
on
this
list,
that
the
new
council
will
inherit
that
I
just
wanted
to
hold
up,
in
addition
to
see
you
south,
which
of
course
has
an
asterisk
next
to
it
and
a
whole
annexation
issue
in
our
plan
balsam.
But
we
just
saw
a
piece
of
the
racial
equity
work,
we're
trying
to
do,
and
it
goes
deeper
than
that
and
I
hope.
The
new
council
can
somehow
get
immersed
in
that
and
because
I
think
that's
an
important
journey.
A
Ron
as
a
community
as
related,
but
different
part
of
that
is,
is
that
we're
in
formal
tribal
consultations
with
I
forget
how
many
tribes
a
whole
bunch
of
tribes
that
you,
thirteen
and
the
tribes
are
coming
back
here
in
the
spring
and
we'll
take
the
next
step
together.
But
that's
important
and
will
involve
I.
Think
most
of
Council
participated
in
the
last
meetings
and
it
was
pretty
profound
moving
stuff
but
I.
That's
something
that
I
think
is
important
and
it'll
be
on
the
work
plan.
A
We
also
found
Primus
promised
the
Library
Commission
that
we
would
have
a
robust
discussion
about
how
to
fund
the
library
long
term
and
whether
it
should
be
a
district
or
some
other
mechanism.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
honor
that
another
project.
That's
out
there
ready
for
attention,
regardless
of
how
you
feel
about
the
particulars,
but
University
Hill
still
needs
a
catalyst
project
to
help
move
the
commercial
district
forward
and
I
I
would
encourage
the
new
council
to
not
again
regardless
of
whether
you
like
the
one
on
the
table.
A
The
climate
mobilization
action
plan
is
off
to
a
really
great
start.
There
were
hundreds
of
people
that
came
to
the
kickoff
and
that
will
be
a
joyful
even
though
the
topic
is
serious.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
energy
community
around
that
and
the
next
council
will
get
to
participate
and
adopt
that,
and
as
part
of
that,
one
of
the
hopeful
things
is
the
carbon
sequestration
and
piece
to
that,
a
couple
more
one
that
I
think
could
fall
through
the
cracks.
A
If
are
not
careful
careful,
but
is
we
can't
begin
talking
about
soon
enough
is
the
2020
ballot
and
we
are
part
of
a
regional,
affordable
housing
strategy
and
we're
in
discussions
with
other
municipalities
in
the
county,
about
how
to
fund
that
and
how
the
ball
was
left
and
the
court
was
that
it's
likely
that
we'd
want
to
do
something
on
the
2020
ballot
and
maybe
that
wouldn't
be
connected
to
transportation,
or
maybe
that
wouldn't,
but
that's
a
really
important
conversation
and
it
always
sneaks
the
ballot
always
sneaks
up
on
us
and
I.
Guess.
A
Anyhow,
that
involves
a
lot
of
other
players
and
I
hope.
Somehow
that
the
new
council
will
start
early
in
the
spring
on
that
line
and
then
at
some
point
oh
sorry,
I
have
a
couple
more
one
is
there's
a
lot
of
in
the
municipalities
around
us
in
our
basically
our
neighbors
there's
a
lot
of
new
council
members.
There's
new
councils
and
we
have
a
tradition
of
sometimes
having
dinners
or
breakfasts
with
neighboring
cities
can
and
I
guess.
A
I
would
encourage
the
new
council
to
embrace
that
tradition,
all
the
more
so
because
there's
a
lot
of
turnover
out
there
and
there's
a
chance
for
new
partnerships
and
new
relationships,
and
we
just
started
that
with
Naropa
University
restarted
it
and
I
think
it.
We
started
it
and
you
know
there's
just
a
lot
of
great
partnerships
that
could
use
some
fostering,
but
I'm
gonna
quit
talking
now.
But
at
the
end
I
would
like
to
talk
about
I
guess.
J
Get
things
sent
in
like
other
council
members
did,
but
there
are
a
few
things
one
of
the
ones
I'm
gonna
call
out.
You
just
make
sure
I
understand
what
it
is
less.
You
says
all
council
bike,
skateboard
areas,
rules,
I
assume
this
is
like
where
we
can
bike
on
sidewalks
and
where
skate
boards
can
be
and
I
would
throw
in
there
there's
the
related
thing
about
what
we're
gonna
do
with
these
scooters.
So
each
scooters
we
have
a
moratorium
in
place,
but
we
don't
have
a
set
of
rules
developed
yet
for
them.
J
So
I
would
just
lump
all
of
those
alternative
transportation.
Things.
I
really
do
hope
that
the
next
council
addresses
making
the
rules
clear
for
where
bikes
can
be
and
multi-use
paths
or
lanes
or
on
sidewalks.
So
that
was
one
thing
and
then
another
thing
that
is
still
hanging
out.
There
is
the
electronic
signature
gathering
so
that
the
RFP
has
been
done
and
I
expect
the
IT
department
at
some
point,
we'll
see
who
got
that
contract.
But
then
you
know
how
long
is
that
process
realistically
gonna
take.
J
You
know
because
I
know
the
conversations
with
the
Secretary
of
State
I've
been
started.
I
know
the
conversation
with
the
clerk
has
been
started
when
I've
spoken
with
those
two
folks.
They
have
a
pretty
high
level
of
concern
for
data
security
and
so
on.
So
I
think
you
know
being
realistic
and
highlighting
what
the
likely
schedule
is
is
something
that
should
probably
come
early
so
that
the
council
can
see
it
and
figure
out
where
it
fits
and
the
spectrum
of
things.
I
I
That
reminded
me
that
there
has
been
a
request
by
persons
who
were
on
the
first
task
force
on
the
voting
to
put
a
group
into
place,
a
public
group
such
as
that
one
to
be
involved
in
this
process
and
at
the
time
for
some
reason,
I
thought
they
were
quite
a
few
nods
up
here
that
we
would
go
forward
with
that
and
I
don't
see
any
harm.
Is
there?
Are
there
any
thoughts
about
doing
something
like
that,
so
that
it
it's
not
just
staff?
J
E
If
you
need
to
tailor
kind
of
random
thoughts
over
the
last
several
months,
so
the
things
that
are
in
the
memo
are
not
things
that
have
dozen
things
that
I
suggested
are
not
things
that
I
feel
super
strongly
about.
The
next
council
could
take
a
look
at
that
at
the
retreat,
but
the
one
thing
I
do
feel
pretty
strongly
about
which
is
not
on
my
list,
but
I.
Think
it's
on
Mary's,
I'm
sure
Mary
will
have
something
to
say
about
this
as
well
is
is
really
a
deep
dive
into
the
budget.
E
You
know
I'm
concerned,
while
I
think
we
did
a
lot
of
good
things
and
a
lot
of
things
well.
The
last
year
to
Ike
I
am
concerned
about
a
few
things
on
our
budget.
One
is
I,
I,
don't
think
that
we're
quite
holistic
enough
in
our
approach
to
our
needs.
Things
come
along
and
we
want
to
do
them
and
that's
great,
but
we
may
not
look
at
things
across
the
board.
The
way
we
should
I
also
worry
that
we
have
pressure
on
revenues.
E
We've
already
started
to
see
that
with
our
sales
and
use
tax,
which
of
course
is
our
number
one
source
of
funding
and
I-
think
it's
only
gonna
get
worse.
You
know
all
the
all
the
reports
we
hear
out
there
is
there's
gonna,
be
some
macro
headwinds
as
well,
and
so
I
think
we
may
just
be
seeing
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
number
one
prepare
for
a
revenue
downturn.
E
Secondly,
regardless
of
whether
our
revenue
it
takes
a
dip
I
think
we
need
to
set
the
groundwork,
we're
not
only
the
next
council
but
future
councils
in
looking
at
our
expenses
in
our
priorities
holistically
rather
than
in
silos
and
and
so
I
would
very
much
like
to
see
that
be
a
priority
for
the
next
council.
Maybe
it's
a
other
Blue
Ribbon
Commission.
Maybe
it's
simply
council
rolling
up
its
sleeves
and
looking
at
things
across
the
board,
but
I
think
that's
probably
one
of
my
would
be
my
number
one
priority
for
the
next
council.
L
And
I
will
agree
with
that.
Bob
and
I
think
that
deep
dive
into
the
budget
could
also
encompass
several
other
things
that
others
have
talked
about
here
tonight,
which
one
was
taking
a
look
at
the
library
finances.
It
could
encompass
that
as
well
as
encompassing
the
gare
work
that
government
Alliance
and
racial
equity
work
that
is
going
on
in
the
city.
L
L
Voting,
oh
I've
been
very
concerned
with
this
year
being
the
second
time
that
the
appearance
of
the
slate
phenomenon
happens
and
I
I
fear
that
what
it
does
is
it
pulls
us
sideways
instead
of
forwards
and
and
I
would
like
to
take
a
look
at
this
ranked
choice,
voting
as
perhaps
a
way
to
help
us
move
forward
a
little
better
than
being
pulled
sideways
every
other
year.
So
that's
all
I
have.
N
N
But
I
do
think
that
our
police
force
is
something
that
needs
to
stay
robust
and
we
need
well-trained,
well
informed
officers
to
help
keep
the
Public
Safety
intact.
I.
Think
that's
one
of
our
highest.
You
know
priorities
here,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
money
to
be
able
to
provide
what
what
they're
going
to
request
when
that
master
plan
comes
out.
N
So,
oh
and
then
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
look
at
and
I'll
bring
it
up
during
the
retreat
is
that
you
know
we
do
tend
to
get
these
shiny
objects,
as
Mary
said
every
once
in
a
while
that
tend
to
kind
of
throw
off
our
schedule.
So
maybe
we
can
look
into
building
every
quarter
like
leaving
a
hold
space
for
any
surprises,
like
the
vaping
issue
that
was
really
important
to
address,
but
came
out
of.
N
D
A
couple
more
thoughts,
just
I
know
we
talked
about
with
transportation
that
vision.
Zero
is
an
ongoing
project
right
now,
we've
got
our
transportation
master
plan
that
which
we
have
complexed,
which
is
great
and
we've
started.
We've
done
a
lot
of
great
work
on
vision,
zero,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
stay
focused
on
those
important
transportation
and
transportation
safety
issues,
as
well
as
on
the
regional
transportation.
Things
which
sins
could
talk
about
a
little
more
here
in
a
minute,
and
so
those
those
are
those
are
critical.
D
It
I
just
want
to
bring
it.
So
a
lot
of
the
planning
work
that
we've
done
this
year
has
been
focused
on,
you
know,
say
making
sure
we
we
don't
get
things
that
we're
concerned
about,
but
I
just
I
hope
that
the
the
new
council
will
also
take
a
look
at
how
we
might
tweak
our
policies
so
that
we
get
so
we
get
some
of
the
additional
sort
of
housing
in
places
like
diagonal
Plaza,
like
Suzanne
mentioned.
D
You
know
in
kind
of
walkable
mixed-use
kind
of
neighborhoods,
because
I
think
we
do
have
a
critical
need
for
housing,
with
an
emphasis
on
affordability,
so
I'd
love
to
see
us
undertake
some
things.
That
would
help
us
get
some
more.
That
critically
need
things,
but
well
throwing
a
lot
of
important
initiatives.
But
remember
I
like
what
you
said
about
the
holding
place
for
things
that
come
up
because
I
think
sometimes
we
can
with
our
ambitions.
D
We
can
take
on
too
large
a
list
of
priorities
and
we
end
up
exhausting
staff,
exhausting
ourselves
and
exhausting
the
community.
It
makes
it
hard
to
keep
up
so
I
think
the
pace
has
been
better
this
year.
That
has
been
in
some
other
years,
but
but
I
think
I
just
like
to
offer
a
word
of
recommendation
to
maybe
you
know,
focus
in
maybe
a
little
bit
more.
G
So
I
appreciate
the
reserve
for
the
little
quarterly
hold,
but
a
couple
years
ago,
Bob
and
I.
We
did
the
retreat
committee
and
trying
to
for
two
years
in
a
row
and
in
each
one
of
those
we
tried
to
schedule
extra
time
for
bright
shiny
objects.
But
what
happens
is
that
our
schedule
gets
completely
full,
and
so
you
will
have
to
be
very
disciplined
and
not
take
on
so
much
at
the
beginning
in
order
to
keep
that
reserve
with
regard
to
diagonal,
Plaza
I
would
love
to
see
that
done
and
again.
G
G
So
for
us
to
kind
of
push
it
would
require
a
condemnation
and
in
all
my
years
and
being
on
council
I
only
know
of
one
condemnation,
and
that
was
for
somebody
building
a
house
on
open
space,
and
so
there
it's
not
such
an
easy
thing
to
do.
But
I
do
bid
you
well
in
trying
to
get
that
done,
and
I
will
just
remind
everyone
that
the
Rocky
Mountain
Greenway
is
idea.
G
J
Just
wanted
to
tag
on
to
the
budget
agree
with
wanting
to
do
a
deeper
dive
into
that
it's
a
complicated
subject
and
I'm
afraid
that
Bob
is
right
about
headwinds
coming
our
way.
So
all
the
more
reason
to
do
it,
then
I
guess
I
would
say
that
I
thought
this
council
started
out
doing
pretty
darn
good
with
our
scheduling.
J
We
were
finishing
meetings
at
10:30
and
you
know-
and
it
seemed
to
me
that
we
were
getting
our
work
done,
but,
as
you
can
see
with
the
ambition
a
lot
of
this
stuff
took
longer
than
we
were
hoping
it
would,
and
so
it
all
stacked
up
at
the
end
and
then
at
the
end,
our
meetings
were,
you
know
as
efficient.
We
were
getting
out
of
after
midnight
and
we're
having
to
do
more
special
meetings.
So
it's
completely
understandable
the
way
it
happens.
J
It's
well
worth
trying
again,
because
I
thought
it
started
out
well
a
year
ago,
but
we
ended
up
partly
because
of
things
which
came
up
I
think
we
ended
up,
slowed
down
a
little
more,
but
I
do
agree
on.
We
should
put
the
budget
like
near
the
top
of
the
list
enough
people
of
the
name
bit
that
it.
You
know
the
new
council
I
expect
that
will
come
up
near
the
top
and
store
the
other
things
underneath
I.
I
Would
just
like
to
say
one
thing
about
the
budget
and
that's
that
you
look
at
subsidies
wherever
they
may
exist
throughout,
because
there
are
lots
of
them
in
there.
There's
lots
of
duplication
in
different
areas,
and
so
there
are
ways
I
think
there's
a
lot
in
there
that
can
be
saved
and
can
be
used,
as
things
may
may
flatten
in
the
future.
B
A
That's
before
they
bring
their
own
priorities,
I
would
like
to
if
we
were
kind
of
done
with
that,
I
would
like
to
turn
everybody's
attention
to
something
I
put
on
hot
nine
right
before
the
meeting,
which
I
also
print
it
out
for
all
of
you
and
it
just
it's,
the
regional
transportation
work
and
as
a
mayor,
unless
you
change
it-
and
you
may
very
well
want
to
do
that.
The
mayor
ends
up
serving
on
several
regional
bodies
and
so
handing
that
off.
A
But
these
bodies
are
doing
really
important
work
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
aware
of
them.
So
when
you
figure
out
who
picks
up
the
slack
or
not
split
the
slack,
but
who
takes
the
baton
that
everybody
knows
what's
involved
and
a
couple
of
the
they
meet
monthly,
some
of
them
and
they
will
meet
before
the
next
council
decides
who
serves
so
just
real
quickly.
There's
us
36
mayor's
in
commissioners
coalition.
A
A
You
know
that
cutting
service
because
they
can't
get
labor
it's
it's
sort
of
an
ongoing
struggle
with
them
and
but
maintaining
really
strong
relationships
and
communications
is
key,
so
I
guess
I
hope
somebody
can
step
into
that
before
you
make
assignments,
there's
also
to
read
road,
specific
coalition's,
one
of
them's
highway
7
coalition
and
the
other
one's
highway.
Knight
119.
Those
are
two
other
major
arterial
priorities.
A
We
are
working
very
closely
so
on
highway
7.
That
goes
all
the
way
to
Brighton
that
involves
multiple
counties
and
the
work
there
is
to
get
that
to
get
that
arterial
recognized
at
the
state
level
and
then
to
get
funding
for
it,
and
so
that
only
meets
quarterly
so
that
one's
not
gonna
meet
again
to
the
end
of
January,
but
the
other
big
one.
A
The
119
is
the
rapist
and
that
kind
of
the
next
priority
and
that's
a
smaller
coalition
and
it's
mostly
Boulder
Longmont
in
Boulder
County,
and
that
one's
meeting
monthly
and
the
next
one's
on
the
25th
we
are
that
project
is
been
studied.
It's
been
it's
ready
to
be
implemented
in
be
implemented
in
segments,
so
right
now
we're
talking
with
the
cidade
about
getting
some
of
the
money
that
used
to
be
on
the
books
from
them
as
seed
money
to
leverage
additional
funding.
A
A
Then
the
last
thing
I'll
just
mention
is
the
Metro
mayor's
caucus
I
loved.
Obviously
only
the
mayor
gets
to
go
to
that.
It
is
the
40
mayor's
in
the
whole
metro
region.
Transportation
is
a
key
issue.
That's
discussed
there
regularly
as
its
housing
and
homelessness
that
one
is
less
focused
on
our
issues,
but
it's
kind
of
our
way
of
interacting
with
the
larger
metro
region
out
there
and
they're
important
relationships.
So
whoever
ends
up
being
mayor
I
if
we
want
to
have
a
larger
influence.
A
This
is
one
of
the
ways
to
do
that
and
I
ended
up
serving
on
the
XCOM.
That's
another
way
to
do
that
too.
If
whoever
serves
next
so
I'm,
just
gonna
highlight
this
I
think
we
get
one
of
the
reasons
we
punch
above
our
weight
is
because
we
are
out
there
with
relationships
making
stuff
happen.
We
have
a
delegation,
that's
leading
the
state
legislature.
We
have
a
governor
that
comes
from
Boulder.
A
This
is
a
really
good
time
for
us
to
help
move
climate
action
forward,
multimodal
transportation
for
all
those
things,
but
a
lot
of
it
happens
based
on
relationships
that
span
a
number
of
years.
So
I
guess,
if
you
guys
want
to
break
some
of
this
work
up,
I
think
that's
great,
but
there's
a
lot
of
strategy
that
happens
in
between
meetings
with
staff
and
with
the
county
and
with
other
municipalities
that
are
our
allies.
So
it
just
it's
a
whole
body
of
work
and
over
the
arc
of
the
council
or
a
couple
councils.
B
A
Should
sign
up
to
take
some
of
these
meetings
on
before
the
next
council?
And
maybe
you
guys
can
do
that
November
19th
when
you
all
read
up
but
I,
wouldn't
just
let
these
fall
through
the
cracks
and
you've
probably
heard
that
Kathleen
Rocky
is,
you
know,
maybe
even
the
city,
to
go
to
the
county.
The
good
news
there
is
we're
not
losing
her
cuz
Sheila
but
they're.
You
know
all
the
more
reason
for
council
to
step
up
and
help
because
you
know
there's
some
turnover.
D
A
B
A
H
So
the
ice
hat
program
is
the
program
that
VI
runs
under
contract
with
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security,
and
this
is
a
program
that
was
that
began
probably
officially
in
2004,
but
the
ideas
for
it
began
in
the
late
90s
when,
when
it
was
learned
in
the
late
90s
that
people
that
were
in
the
community
and
we're
supposed
to
show
up
for
court
were
doing
it
at
a
rate
of
only
11%
and
they
wanted
to
improve
that
percentage.
And
so
over
time.
H
H
The
Department
of
Homeland
Security
is
the
authorizing
I.
Guess
I'll
say
for
this
program
and
they
direct
what
it
will
look
like,
including
the
kind
of
training
that
they
want.
The
people
that
do
the
on
the
on
the
ground
hands
on
work
to
have
be
I
is
the
sole
contractor.
Currently
for
the
ISAT
program,
there
are
54
facilities
throughout
the
United
States,
where
persons
receive
the
GPS
monitoring
all
of
the
employees
who
deliver
that
sir,
are
trained
at
bi
here
in
Boulder
they
go
through
a
two-week
training
program.
H
They
are
qualified
in
that
96%
of
them
are
bilingual.
They
all
have
a
bachelor's
degree.
Many
of
them
have
a
master's
degree,
many
of
them,
in
fact,
most
of
them
are
have
two
years
of
experience
as
case
managers
in
probationary
type
programs.
They
come
to
VI
for
2
weeks
of
training,
on
the
equipment
and
on
the
procedures
and
on
humane
treatment
of
people.
H
So
taking
a
look
at
the
12
issues
that
our
community
activists
raised
with
bi
in
August,
there
are
several
of
them
that
are
not
within
the
control
of
bi,
and
so
those
are
in
the
control
of
ice
or
other
management.
Some
of
them
are
issues
like
these
ankle
monitors
that
are
too
tight.
Tight,
beeping,
ankle
monitors,
low
battery
alerts,
ice
app
officers
who
are
bullies
ice
app
officers
who
treat
transgender
people
inappropriately
and
the
grievance
process
does
not
protect
people
from
Italian.
In
my
conversations
with
mr.
H
H
That
complaints
about
ice,
app
officers
who
are
bullies
he
believes,
are
one-offs
and
that
they
are
very
well
trained
to
be
great
case.
Managers
in
fact,
there's
a
program
in
which
therapeutic
wraparound
services
are
being
provided
to
some
members
of
the
community
that
are
being
monitored,
the
transgender
situation.
They
have
added
LGBTQ
training
to
their
training
manual
and
they
got
approval
from
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
To
do
that,
and
and
in
order
to
change
anything
on
their
training
program,
they
have
to
get
approval
of
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
H
So
my
sense
of
it
is
that
they
are
trying
very
hard
and
that
there
are
always
because
people
are
involved.
There
are
always
situations
in
which
some
people
do
not
act
well,
and
they
seem
to
me
to
say
that
they
are
supervising
that
and
trying
to
stop
that
at
the
end
of
the
conversation,
I
asked
mister
Waldo
if
he
would
nevertheless
agree
to
meet
with
two
members
of
our
community.
Two
members
of
council
and
their
folks
and
he
said
that
he
needs
to
ask
his
next
level
of
management.
H
I
H
H
Waldo
says
and
I
think
it's
true
is
that
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security
has
rules
that
must
be
followed,
and
while
we
all
may
disagree
with
those
rules
and
with
the
policies
that
these
corporations
are
not
in
a
position
to
change
those
policies,
our
representatives
at
the
federal
level
are
the
ones
that
we
would
need
to
appeal
to
to
change
the
policies
of
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security.
So.
I
So
I
was
saw
last
Thursday
night
show
on
PBS
I,
think
it's
John
fruga
who's.
One
of
the
station
managers
who
reported
on
the
detention
center
in
Denver
and
I,
have
to
say
it
was
pretty
horrific.
It
was
really
horrific
and
anything
that
the
City
Council
can
do
in
terms
of
talking
to
our
federal
persons.
I
D
Thank
you
for
that.
Cindy
said
Jen
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
and
talking
to
mr.
Walden.
So
it's
good
to
get
some
additional
information.
I
think
we
should
continue
to
press
for
the
the
meeting
aside.
I
know
that
it
sounds
like
they're
working
to
address
some
of
these
issues,
but
I
know
that
the
citizen
activists
have
some
real
specific
items
in
there
and
perhaps
with
some
kind
of
facilitations
and
council
members.
D
A
J
Much
the
same
I,
you
know,
I
read
that
we
got
back
from
the
attorney
and
as
well
the
stuff
that
we've
heard
from
activists-
and
it
seems
to
me
like
there's
room
for
exchange
in
here
I've
been
reading
quite
a
bit
about
the
detention
facilities
as
well
and
I.
Don't
know
exactly
how
I
SEP
relates
to
the
bigger
picture
of
detention
facilities,
but
they're
pretty
pretty
unpleasant,
and
so
it's
worth
the
conversation
to
continue
I.
J
If
they
choose
not
to
I
mean
Tom
I
had
a
question
for
you,
you
know:
are
we
allowed
to
do
a
resolution?
It's
non-binding
right.
So
if
we
did
a
resolution,
all
we'd
be
doing
is
making
a
statement
of
the
sense
of
council
yeah,
and
so
there
seemed
to
be
some
pretty
stiff
resistance
by
the
attorney
for
bi
that
we
couldn't
do
that
that
it
was
governmental,
inappropriate,
yeah,.
J
H
So
one
thing
I
do
want
to
clarify
is
that
my
understanding
is
that
bi
is
not
related
to
the
different
detention
facilities.
The
program
that
they
operate.
This
is
a
program
is
for
persons
who
are
not
detained,
persons
who
are
in
the
community
and
they're
provided
with
ankle
monitors,
or
they
also
have
a
smartphone
app
that
and
lieu
of
that,
so
that
they
will
get
messages
to
show
up
at
court
and
stuff
like
that.
So
so
what
happens
at
the
detention
facility
I
think
is
distinct
from
this
particular
program
run
by
the
boulder
company.
E
L
So
I
think
that
if
we
can
get
that
meeting,
it
would
be
helpful
to
better
understand
things
like
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned.
Jane
was
that
when
one
of
the
or
the
issues
that
were
brought
up
by
the
community
was
that
there's
beeping
or
the
ankle
monitors
are
too
tight,
and
you
said
they're
always
welcome
to
go
to
their
case
managers,
and
it
seems
to
me
that,
if
that
happens
in
the
evening,
you
probably
couldn't
get
there
until
the
next
day.
O
L
That's
that's
pretty
harsh,
so
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
within
there.
That
would
be
a
question
to
ask:
is
it
in
your
purview
to
change
that
policy
to
be
able
to
get
attention
to
that
situation
immediately
so
that
somebody
doesn't
have
to
go
through
the
night
with
that?
So
so
those
are
the
things
that
may
be
within
their
capacity
to
change,
so
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
sit
down
with
them
and
just
have
a
conversation
and
ask
more
questions
and,
and
just
be
so
helpful
about
it
right.
H
So
so
I
know
that
mr.
Waldo
would
gladly
meet
with
any
of
you
and
I
think
you
could
get
your
questions
answered
there
I
mean
Carl
and
I.
Try
to
ask
every
question
that
we
could
think
of
and
yeah.
We
didn't
think
of
that
one.
We
were
asking
questions
more
about
the
training
manual
and
stuff.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
do
that
or
not,
but
I
would
suggest
that,
rather
than
me
being
a
go-between
and
not
thinking
question
you
wouldn't
want
to
ask
no.
L
That's
right
and
I
think
I
think
that
the
ultimate
situation
would
be
to
have
council
members
and
community
members
there,
and
so
that
I
think
that
would
be
the
best
case
and
will
hold
out
for
that
at
least
I
would
like
to
hold
out
for
that
and
see
if
we
can
get
there.
If
not,
then
we
take
our
next
steps.
Does.
A
E
A
suggestion
the
next
council
meeting
is
the
19th
of
November
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
an
adequate
amount
of
time
for
mr.
wall
to
get
back
to
Jane
about
the
about
the
meeting.
So
I
might
suggest
that
CAC
put
this
on
as
a
discussion
point
again
on
the
19th
of
November
and
we'll
even
have
a
yes
or
no,
and
you
know,
I
guess
would
interpret
silence
as
a
no.
E
E
The
new
council
protected
the
new
council
and
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
resolution.
It
would
just
be
getting.
You
know,
general.
Obviously,
let
us
know
as
soon
as
you
hear
us
and
there
may
be
some
activity
before
then,
but
if
there
hasn't
been
any
activity
before
then
I
think
maybe
the
new
council
can
take
that
up
and
say
geez
we
haven't
heard
back,
or
we
heard
Beca
disappointing
answer
in
to
Mary's
point.
E
D
A
L
A
I
was
gonna,
say
next
time
we
see
Jonah
goose.
We
will.
Let
us
make
a
point
of
asking
me
okay
and
we'll
talk
about
it
tomorrow
at
the
legislative
agenda.
We
want
to
just
leave
it
be
as
is,
and
CAC
we'll
see.
If
anything
happens,
they
try
to
tee
it
up.
For
the
next
council
then
does
that
feel?
Do
we
want
to
leave
it
there.
L
A
P
A
L
D
N
N
Having
seen
previous
councils
as
well
just
from
a
citizen,
standpoint,
I
think
I
was
very
young
spoiled
and
so
I
do
hope.
The
new
council
can
take
this
council's
lead
and
have
the
respect
and
courtesy.
Even
if
we
disagree
that
we
can
work
together
because
it's
been
an
honor
to
work
with
all
of
you
and
thank
you
for
your
service
and
thanks
for
helping
guide,
Boulder
and
thanks
for
helping
mentor.
The
newbies.