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I'm
going
to
call
to
order
the
Thursday
August
3rd
2023,
regular
meeting
of
the
Boulder
City
Council.
Welcome
everybody
good
to
have
you
here
and
we're
going
to
start
by
asking
for
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda.
We've
got
an
item
8A
to
add
an
update
on
homeless,
Services,
external
evaluation,
safe
Outdoors,
camping,
Bob.
C
B
We've
got
a
motion
to
amend
the
agenda
to
add
a
new
item.
1A
singing
for
did.
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Tara's
65
love
it
all
in
favor.
B
B
Present
Yates
right
here
mayor,
we
have
our
Quan
Bob
I'd,
invite
you
to
repeat
your
motion.
If
you.
H
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C
New
island
1A,
oh
well,
I
I,
just
I,
think
we
should
acknowledge
that
Tara
took
her
birthday
or
special
day.
I
would
have
taken
the
night
off
Tara
and
so
we're
happy
to
have
you
here,
voting
and
participating
tonight.
Hopefully
we'll
get
you
out
of
here
early,
so
you
can
have
maybe
a
glass
of
wine
before
you
go
to
bed
and
Aaron.
You
have
such
a
beautiful
singing
voice.
Would
you
mind
Tina's
off
here
on
a
rendition
of
happy
birthday
to
Tara
happy.
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B
C
Before
we're
going
to
read
a
declaration
here-
and
we
have
some
guests
who
are
going
to
join
us,
but
before
we
do
that
I
think
we
have
some
some
information
from
staff.
I
So
we're
here
tonight
on
what
would
be
in
September
the
ninth
pollinator
appreciation
month,
but
because
we
had
a
lot
of
wonderful
artists
and
Poets
come
together
from
our
community
for
an
exhibit
in
the
library
gallery
that
is
going
up
next
week.
So
it
will
be
available
on
August
12th
and
run
all
the
way
through
the
end
of
September.
We
are
expanding
to
celebrate
all
of
the
insects
and
other
little
invertebrates
and
creatures
who
are
critical
for
the
living
systems
that
provide
our
air
water
and
everything
essential
for
life.
I
We
want
to
change
people's
perspectives
about
insects
so
that
they
love
them
and
welcome
them
into
our
our
world.
And
each
of
you,
a
council-
and
this
is
going
to
unavailable
on
the
website
for
coolbuilder.org
is
a
whole,
a
whole
series
of
free
events,
and
we
have
English
and
one
side
Spanish
on
the
other
and
we're
lucky
to
have
Dr
Sammy
Ramsey,
an
amazing
celebrity
entomologist
during
our
opening
event.
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J
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C
Kids
up,
thank
you.
Normally,
we
read
this
off
a
piece
of
paper,
but
we're
doing
this
electronically
tonight.
Can
we
have
the
kids
come
up
and
join
us.
K
K
C
C
There
are
over
1
million
known
species
of
insects
and
other
invertebrates
on
Earth,
including
Boulders
550
species
of
native
bees,
butterflies,
beetles
flies,
grasshoppers,
training
matters
and
countless
other
tiny
creatures
that
maintain
the
health
and
beauty
of
our
grasslands,
Forest,
Meadows,
Wetlands,
creeks
and
other
natural
areas
by
providing
services
such
as
pollination,
clean
air
and
water,
waste
removal
and
natural
Pest
Control.
These
tiny
creatures
are
indispensable,
Partners
in
the
production
of
our
food
supply
and
they're
essential
for
diverse
and
thriving
ecosystems
that
support
all
life.
C
C
We
honor
the
legacy
of
those
who
came
before
us
to
protect
the
natural
world
and
the
outstanding
beauty
of
Boulder.
We
pledge
to
learn
more
about
insects
and
other
invertebrates
to
protect
them
and
heal
our
land
and
strengthen
our
connection
with
each
other
by
providing
and
joining
together
to
share
art,
music
and
series
of
workshops
and
events
to
inspire.
C
The
city
council
of
the
city
of
Boulder,
I
know
this
is
long
bear
with
me,
declares
August
and
September
2023
as
a
time
to
celebrate
and
appreciate
little
creatures
and
commits
to
taking
action
in
partnership
with
our
community
As
We
join
together.
We
protect
all
biodiversity
for
current
and
future
Generations.
L
C
K
A
C
B
A
B
That
that
was
easily
the
most
adorable
thing
that
has
ever
happened
on
this
dice,
thanks
to
all
of
our
children,
pollinator
supporters
for
coming
and
joining
us.
That
was
really
wonderful,
all
right
and
now
moving
to
open
comment.
If
we
could
please
and
commenters,
you
got
a
tough
act
to
follow
there,
but
and
if
we
could
get
the
public
participation
guidelines,
please
from
Brenda.
Q
Oh
I
gotta
follow
that
all
right,
I
don't
even
have
an
antenna,
so
we'll
have
to
pretend,
but
thank
you
so
much
Emily
for
pulling
up
the
slides.
My
name
is
Brenda.
Rittenauer
I
am
with
our
communication
and
engagement
team,
and
it
is
my
role
in
these
meetings
to
help
remind
us
of
our
guidelines
to
make
sure
we
stay
in
a
productive
atmosphere
throughout
the
evening.
Q
So
we
love
to
share
with
you
that
the
city
has
engaged
with
community
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,
meaningful
and
inclusive
Civic
conversation.
This
Vision
was
designed
to
support
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
community
members
for
staff
and
for
council
members
and
supports
democracy
for
people
of
all
ages.
Identities,
lived
experiences,
political
perspectives
and
favorite
bug
choices
for
more
information
about
this
vision
and
the
community
engagement
process.
You
can
visit
our
website,
bouldercolorado.gov
and
search
for
productive
atmospheres
in
the
search
bar
next
slide.
Q
Please
and
it's
this
is
where
I
have
switched
to
paper
because
it
gets
too
small
on
my
screen.
The
following
are
examples
of
rules
of
decorum
found
in
the
boulder
Revised,
Code
and
other
guidelines
to
support
this
Vision.
These
will
be
upheld
during
tonight's
meeting.
All
remarks
and
testimony
shall
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
City
business.
No
participants
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,
obscenity,
racial
epithets,
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
meeting
are
prohibited.
Q
Participants
are
required
to
sign
up
to
speak
using
the
name.
They're
commonly
known
by,
and
individuals
must
display
their
whole
name
before
being
allowed
to
speak
online.
Currently,
only
audio
testimony
is
permitted.
Online
in-person
participants
are
asked
to
refrain
from
expressing
support
or
disagreements
verbally
or
with
Applause,
obviously,
with
the
exception
of
the
Declarations
and
the
adorable
recipients
of
declarations.
Q
B
M
Good
evening
my
name
is
Douglas
bent
I'm
a
resident
at
1850,
Folsom,
Street
I'm.
Also
the
president
of
the
homeowners
association
there,
but
I'm
I,
hear
tonight
primarily
is
my
my
role
as
a
resident
I
do
a
few
slides,
here's
a
title
slide
and
really
I
and
many
residents
not
over
our
building
in
the
area,
are
opposed
to
the
location
of
the
homeless
daycare
center
at
1844
Folsom,
that's
immediately
adjacent
to
1850..
M
Specifically,
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
of
how
good
the
experiences
have
been
at
the
North
Boulder
shelter
or
at
the
nest
or
other
locations
in
the
city
in
terms
of
not
having
a
great
deal
of
police
activity,
but
I
point
out.
Those
are
not
in
the
center
Center
Boulder.
M
So
my
next
slide,
please
so
1844
in
1854
summer,
that's
between
false
and
between
Canyon
and
walnut
and
I'm,
sending
the
neighborhood
to
go
to
26th
Street
well,
which
is
where
the
dairy
Arts
Center
is
and
in
that
one
sort
of
super
block,
just
the
one
super
block
of
within
a
fairly
narrow
radius
of
the
proposed
location.
There
have
been
26
police
incidents
just
in
the
last
three
weeks.
M
This
is
from
the
Boulder
Boulder
Police
Department's
dashboard
series.
The
incidents
have
been
you
know:
criminal
mischief,
assaults
breaking
and
entering
indecent
exposure.
They've
also
been
a
number
of
medical
calls,
which
there's
a
very
little
information
given
on
those.
There
have
been
five
calls
of
that.
B
F
F
It
is
up
to
us
to
switch
that
behavior
to
stabilize
a
bird
population.
What
is
one
way
we
can
do
that
by
increasing
bird
habitat
and
migration
routes
or
preserving
them
and
in
particular,
let's
look
at
what
is
happening
with
the
mitigation
techniques
that
are
proposed
for
the
Goose,
Creek
and
Canyon
to
Mile
Creek.
F
Let's
preserve
the
existing
wildlife
and
those
areas,
let's
preserve
it
for
those
children
from
Columbine,
let's
preserve
it
for
life.
Thank
you.
R
Hi
tonight
I'm
talking
about
rotating
the
villain.
Here's
how
it
works.
Mayor
Brockett,
said
for
six
years
here
that
we
should
have
a
legal
Campground
for
the
homeless,
but
since
the
2021
election
gave
him
a
majority
to
do
that,
instead,
he
led
the
decision
to
spend
over
six
million
dollars.
The
last
two
years
on
sweeps
Aaron
had
six
years
for
virtue's
signaling
using
his
musician's
voice
and
Boulder
baby
talk
to
lull
hopeful
citizens
into
voting
for
him,
but
to
move
up
in
the
political
world
which
he
knows
he
wants.
R
Since
he
tried
for
the
state
house,
he
has
to
take
a
turn
as
the
villain
to
maintain
the
status
quo.
Last
week
it
was
announced
on
the
city
hotline
that,
instead
of
opening
legal
camps,
that
worked
so
well
in
Denver
that
they're
being
greatly
expanded,
we're
going
to
hire
another
consultant,
which
means
we're
back
to
2017
when
the
city
spent
over
two
hundred
thousand
to
hire
homeless,
Consultants
Back,
Then,
There,
Were,
officially
400
homeless,
in
Boulder.
R
Now
there's
800,
even
though
about
30
die
each
year
you
spent
6
million
on
sweeps
in
two
years,
so
at
least
10
million.
Since
2016.,
this
made
thousands
more
enemies,
vandalism,
crime,
throwing
feces
at
cleanup,
Crews
and
wildfires
have
exploded
so
to
stop
you
wasting
another
eight
years,
hundreds
of
lives
and
10
million
or
more
dollars,
I'm
announcing
the
soft
launch
of
a
never
buy
Boulder
campaign.
R
B
S
Oh
I'll
get
started
good
evening.
City
council,
mayor
Brockett.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
joining
us
last
night
at
our
membership
meeting
or
party
for
historic
Boulder
preservation
is
not
an
accident
in
this
town.
You
know
we're
here
to
to
work
with
the
city
you're
going
to
see
the
this
is
a
picture
of
Boulder,
and
this
is
your
East
End
bookend
from
1940..
S
It's
it's.
The
picture
is
larger.
You'll
see
that
there's
trains
there,
but,
most
importantly
the
Bandshell
is
there
and
to
the
south
of
the
Bandshell
is
an
open
area.
The
park
the
park
is
under
review
as
we
speak,
because
in
May
of
this
year,
historic
Boulder
Friends
of
the
Bandshell
and
the
Tea
House
bought
and
put
an
application
in
for
a
Civic
historic
district.
It
was
delayed
and
it's
delayed
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
One
reason
was
to
do
a
CLA.
S
That's
pretty
supporting
documentation
there
that
that
open
land
there
was
there
in
the
1940s,
and
it's
there
today
number
two
is
the
city.
We
were
hoping
that
the
city
council
would
be
the
city
council
that
votes
on
the
Civic
historic
district.
It's
going
to
be
delayed,
unfortunately,
we're
working
closely
with
the
city
staff
and
we
truly
believe
that
the
landmark
City
staff
is
exceptional.
Marcy
and
Claire
who's
here
today
is
working
with
historic
Boulder
and
we're
going
to
bring
forward
a
proposal
to
go
before
the
city
council.
S
In
February
of
next
year
we
agreed
to
a
60-day
extension
with
a
tolling
agreement,
and
we
think
it
was
reasonable
and
we
thank
the
city
staff
for
doing
it
next
slide.
If
you
would
This
concerns
me,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
want
to
be
at
the
table
is
that
is
a
picture
of
the
Saddle
Creek
development
on
Boulder
Creek
at
the
mouth
of
Canyon.
That
wall
is
over
10
feet
tall,
it's
a
barrier,
it
doesn't
belong
there.
It's
over
I
walked
it
off
tonight.
S
T
My
guys
always
got
a
lot
to
say
tonight:
I
want
to
concentrate
and
focus
and
bring
attention
to
Mental
Health
crisis.
That's
going
on
here
in
Boulder,
I'd
like
to
speak
about
a
young
man,
a
friend
of
a
son
of
a
friend
of
mine.
His
name
is
Trenton
Dunham.
You
might
recognize
that
he
made
national
attention
with
a
three-county
crime
spree
he's
in
the
Boulder
County
Jail
on
a
one
million
dollar
Bond
he's
been
deemed
not
competent
as
of
September.
He
will
have
been
sitting
there
for
two
years.
T
He
has
had
no
mental
health
treatment.
They
just
put
in
a
motion
two
months
ago
to
dismiss
a
million
dollars
worth
of
charges
and
or
give
him
a
PR
so
that
he
could
seek
mental
health,
he's
being
held
he's
sometimes
getting
his
two
hours
a
day
out.
They
denied
that
today
and
we
learned
today
that
he
is
number
91
on
the
list
of
people
to
get
transferred
out
of
here
to
the
State
Mental
Hospital
he's
been
there
without
his
glasses.
T
He
can't
see
in
front
of
his
face
literally
legally
blind
without
him,
there's
no
conditions,
I
guess
for
furloughs
or
any
kind
of
rits
for
him
to
get
out
to
get
a
current
prescription
they've
been
denying
him
that
they
denied
him
communication
with
his
family.
His
mother
has
just
gotten
to
speak
to
him
for
about
an
hour
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
but
that
to
me
is
the
true
definition
of
insanity.
They
denied
the
motion
to
dismiss
his
bond
or
his
charges
or
to
give
him
a
PR
so
that
he
could
get
mental
health.
T
He
now
has
a
new
court
date
set
for
October,
26th
and
and
they're
going
to
try
to
see
about
getting
them.
Some
contacts
and
reader
classes
don't
work.
His
own
public
defender
said
you
know
of
all
the
things
you're
worried
about
to
his
mother.
She
said
about
his
eyesight
I,
don't
know
about
throwing
anybody
into
blindness
after
they've
lived
being
able
to
see
on
top
of
Mental
Illness
but
literally
has
been
deemed
mentally
incompetent
and.
U
U
I-L-O
Phoenix
illu
ilu,
the
founder
of
Rising,
Phoenix
Reiki
and
co-host
of
experience
or
Beyond
Master
trans
channeling
circles.
I
wanted
to
expand
myself
into
a
new
space.
So
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
stepping
into
more
political
atmosphere
and
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
my
mission,
whole
systems,
integration
and
my
interest
in
learning.
U
More
of
so
I've
put
my
about
self
back
into
school
after
10
years,
I'm,
a
single
mom
and
I'm
interested
in
learning
more
about
local
economies,
creating
establishing
and
managing
a
an
interplanetary
network
of
biodynamic
permaculture
Eco
centers
I'm
interested
in
looking
at
what
it
looks
like
to
be
able
to
revitalize
both
Landscapes
and
cities,
towns,
all
different
areas
of
human
life
and
the
more
I'm
stepping
into
my
own
healing
business
after
10
years
of
really
trying
to
work
to
get
there.
U
I
am
starting
to
see
the
opportunities
for
integration
between
healing
and
the
lifestyle
that
our
modern
day
world,
especially
in
America
offers
and
so
I'm.
Just
putting
myself
out
there
to
learn
more
and
step
into
a
new
space
and
be
able
to
bring
forward
the
ideas
and
things
that
I
as
a
Visionary
have
held
for
a
very,
very
long
time
within
myself,
so
I
just
wanted
to
come
up
and
share,
and
now
that
I
was
finally
able
to
integrate
my
own
self
moved
from
South
Boulder
to
North
Boulder.
U
So
it's
been
hard
to
get
here,
but
yeah
I
was
just
happy
to
come
and
speak.
So
thank
you
for
listening
to
me
and
yeah.
V
Good
evening
I'm
Julie
van
damlin
I'm,
the
executive
director
at
effa,
the
emergency
family
assistance
association
and,
as
you
know,
we're
one
of
the
core
safety
net
agencies
serving
our
community
and
I,
come
to
you
tonight
as
the
canary
in
the
coal
mine.
What
we
are
seeing
are
levels
of
need
that
we
have
never
seen
at
effort
before
prior
to
the
covid
we
had
about
300
households
need
food
in
the
food
bank
a
week
we're
over
600
now
week
after
week.
V
We
cannot
keep
up
with
rental
assistance,
we're
seeing
the
highest
numbers
of
family
homelesses
that
we've
ever
seen
in
our
community,
and
all
of
this
is
at
a
stage
where
the
safety
net
is
not
enough,
and
we
come
to
you
to
ask
you
to
make
action
on
the
minimum
wage.
You
all
came
into
office
stating
that
you
were
interested
in
raising
the
minimum
wage.
V
A
year
and
a
half
ago,
the
boulder
Consortium
of
cities
was
supposed
to
set
in
place
a
process
to
look
at
that
county-wide
and
since
then
it's
been
crickets
until
we
heard
that
the
new
plan
is
to
lag
it
until
2025..
So
I
don't
think
that
meets
the
moment
right
now,
there's
about
10
percent
of
jobs
in
Boulder
County
that
make
less
than
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
at
effa.
V
So
it's
it's
time
and
what
I
suggest
I
know
that
there
is
a
long
way
to
go
to
get
where
you
probably
want
to
go,
but
I
ask
that
you
consider
making
the
first
step
a
down
payment
on
equity
and
to
address
the
moment
of
Crisis
that
we're
seeing
to
raise
the
minimum
wage,
15,
January,
2024
and
then
set
a
path
for
outer
years.
You
have
time
to
do
a
consultative
process
and
we
don't
have
time
to
wait.
It's
really
quite
crucial
at
this
moment.
S
W
V
I'm,
probably
not
the
one
to
ask
but
I
know
the
County
Commissioners
are
interested
in
the
unincorporated
parts
of
Boulder
County,
but
there's
nothing
that
stops
you
from
saying.
Let's
make
that
first
step,
let's
try
and
and
adjust
right
now
in
our
city,
that's
so
expensive
and
then
pull
everyone
together.
Catch
up
take
a
pause
year,
While
others
catch
up,
I
mean
I,
really
think.
V
B
X
Cool
I'm,
Pete,
Carney
and
I
would
like
to
discuss
the
bus
system
here
in
Boulder.
We
have
fairly
good
lines,
but
they
don't
learn
frequently
enough
for
people
to
rely
on
them,
which
limits
their
usefulness.
I
want
to
focus
on
how
improving
this
will
help
us
towards
some
of
our
most
important
goals
to
be
a
win-win
for
everyone.
The
first
is
our
vision,
zero
goal,
more
frequent
and
reliable
bus
lines
will
encourage
more
people
to
use
the
bus
instead
of
your
car.
Less
cars
on
the
road
will
lead
to
less
opportunities
for
accidents.
X
This
won't
by
itself
get
this
division
zero,
but
it
would
be
a
big
help.
The
second
is
climate
change.
This
one
is
fairly
obvious,
but
having
less
cars
on
the
road
leads
to
less
CO2
emissions
and
climate
change
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
address
immediately
if
we
want
to
solve
it.
The
third
is
equity
I'm,
someone
who
has
been
able
to
own
a
car
most
of
my
life,
but
not
everyone
has
this
option.
X
There
are
many
here
who
can't
afford
a
car
and
they
rely
on
public
transit
daily
because
of
things
like
disabilities,
weather
and
distance.
Walking
and
biking
are
not
always
feasible
options.
By
having
this
lackluster
bus
system,
we
prioritize
car
driving
over
public
transit,
which
is
prioritizing
those
of
us
who
own
a
car
over
those
who
don't
also
a
better
bus
system,
also
improves
car
driving
for
anyone
who
still
choosing
less
cars
on
the
road
leads
to
less
traffic
for
people
to
deal
with.
O
O
O
And
meantime,
you
know
we
own
Alpine
Balsam
site
and
we're
going
to
have
a
big
development
there
and
the
drugstore
across
the
street
leaves
there's
no
zoning
requirement
for
a
drugstore
I
thought
we
were
supposed
to
have
15-minute.
Neighborhoods
isn't
Zoning
for
particular
types
of
businesses,
part
of
a
15-minute
neighborhood-
and
you
know,
speaking
of
15-minute
neighborhoods,
we've
got
one,
that's
a
whole
city
within
itself.
O
Y
This
is
Tim
Thomas.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
my
name
is
Tim
Thomas
I'm
a
board
member
of
Boulder
housing,
Partners
resident
representative
council.
We
are
a
separate,
a
group
of
residents.
We
started
in
my
complex
in
another
complex,
a
senior
complex
that
I
was
visiting.
We
started
receiving
our
yearly
lease
addendums
and
a
very
disturbing
thing
has
happened.
The
paperwork
gives
us
an
option
of
whether
we
want
annual
leases
or
month-to-month
leases.
The
month-to-month
leases
were
already
checked.
Y
Y
So
we
have
contacted
a
BHP.
The
upper
management
we've
asked
them
to
bring
us
new
paperwork,
I
haven't
gotten
any
yet
I,
don't
think
my
neighbor
has
gotten
any
yet,
and
this
is
the
city
of
Boulders,
Housing,
Authority,
council
member
Wallach
actually
serves
on
the
on
the.
Y
Y
So
long
story
short
BHP
was
getting
this
paperwork
telling
us
that
we
had
the
choice
of
whether
we
had
an
annual
lease
or
month-to-month
lease,
and
the
paperwork
for
month
to
month
has
already
been
checked
out.
A
lot
of
people
didn't
realize
they're,
mistaken
they've,
already
handed
it
back.
Can
you
please
contact
BHP
tell
them
to
give
us
the
correct
paperwork
that
does
not
have
the
check
mark
and
lets
us
choose
annual
leases,
as
opposed
to
month
to
month
it
was
a
very
I.
Y
Don't
know
it
just
doesn't
seem
right,
I'm
holding
the
paperwork
until
they
give
us
new
ones.
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
hope
you'll
do
something
about
this.
Thanks.
Z
Good
evening,
Council
media
activists
and
Council
make
false
assumptions
about
landlord
Behavior
related
to
council's
desire
to
increase
occupancy
I.
Don't
think
a
majority
of
residents
agree
with
that
stance.
The
fiction
goes
like
this.
An
additional
person
in
a
home
would
allow
tenants
to
split
the
rent
another
way
and
make
rents
cheaper.
The
obvious
flaw
the
rent,
will
remain
unchanged
if
the
landlord
rents
to
more
people,
that's
fantasy.
Bedrooms
are
for
people
failed,
partly
as
there
was
no
mechanism
to
require
affordability.
Z
Voters
saw
through
this
a
house
renting
to
three
for
forty
five
hundred
a
month
at
1500.
Each
would
rent
for
six
thousand
per
month
at
1500,
each,
if
rented,
to
four
people
or
for
7
500.
If
this
Council
allows
five
people,
families
will
be
priced
out.
Any
proposal
that
doesn't
require
affordability
is
profoundly
unlikely
to
create
it.
What
are
the
effects
on
water,
infrastructure
and
transportation
if
more
and
more
unrestrained
occupancy
is
allowed?
Planning
board
was
mixed
on
this
passing
it
by
only
one
vote.
Virtually
all
college
towns
have
occupancy
limits
to
maintain
order.
Z
Boulder's
recent
survey
of
occupancy
in
60
college
towns
showed
that
60
percent
allow
only
three
or
fewer
unrelated
people,
and
38
percent
only
allowed
two
unrelated
people.
So
the
argument
that
Boulders
occupancy
limit
of
three
unrelated
persons
is
unusual
is
completely
erroneous.
Instead,
staff
continues
to
rely
on
the
wildly
unscientific
be
heard
poll
which
could
be
answered,
100
or
1
000
Times
by
one
person.
Please
heed
the
people's
vote
against
bedrooms,
people
which
was
an
actual
genuine
reference
referendum.
B
N
N
I
also
know
that
staff
continues
to
talk
with
area
stakeholders
about
the
day,
Services
Center
I
know,
Parks
is
looking
at
activation
of
the
parks.
I
know
HHS
and
please
continue
to
think
about
strategies,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supporting
our
entire
Community
as
we
move
forward,
and
then
lastly,
I'll
say
that
in
I'll
say
that
we
are
aware
I'm
in
receipt
of
an
email
that
Mr
Thomas
sent
us
regarding
BHP
leases.
I
know
that
HHS
has
it
as
well
and
will
follow
up
no
need
to
follow
up
Kurt.
N
AA
Good
evening,
Council
Kurt
fernhauber
with
housing
human
services,
so
after
receiving
Mr,
Thomas's
email
I,
did
reach
out
to
BHP
today
to
understand
his
concerns
better.
So
it's
it's
a
typical
practice.
For,
after
the
first
year,
typically
affordable
housing
residents
get
a
one-year
lease
on
their
first
year.
It
automatically
turns
to
a
month
to
month,
after
that
they
can,
if
they
wish
and
desire,
they
can
also
have
a
full
year
release,
as
well
with
the
change
in
the
state
law.
AA
There's
not
a
whole
lot
of
difference,
because
you
can,
with
the
state
law,
you
can
actually
get
out
of
a
a
one-year
lease
without
paying
penalties.
It's
actually
advantageous
for
residents
to
have
a
one-month
lease
because
of
their
life
changes,
and
they
want
to
you
know,
go
into
another
unit.
It
gives
them
easier
flexibility
to
do
that.
AA
E
I
just
want
to
say
Aaron
that
I'm
sorry,
that
you
were
berated
by
a
Community
member
tonight
and
I
know
how
tirelessly
you
work
for
this
community.
This
to
me,
public
comment
and
Community
engagement
are
the
most
important
thing.
If
I
had
a
birthday
wish,
it
would
be.
I
do
have
a
birthday
wish
that
we
can
make
our
points
with
passion,
but
perhaps
a
little
bit
nicer,
not
putting
each
other
down.
So
that's
my.
B
Thanks
Tara
and
if
I
could
just
call
a
clue,
if
you
don't
mind,
Nicole
that,
just
speaking
to
Mr
Rabbits,
we
will
be
talking
about
additional
solution
for
people
experiencing
homelessness
later
on
tonight
we
have
a
study
session
on
safe
outdoor
spaces
in
September
I
believe
it
is
so
at
least
to
talk
about
the
notion,
so
continue
continue
to
be
in
the
works
on
these
things.
Nicole.
W
For
your
birthday
wish,
I
I
appreciate
it
and
yeah
Aaron
hope,
you're
doing.
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
the
person
who
was
talking
about
the
buses
and
what
we
can
do
to
increase
bus
ridership,
and
you
know
we
don't
have
as
much
control
over
service,
but
RTD
did
just
allow
us
to
or
not
allow
but
19
and
under
are
going
to
ride
free
So
for
anybody
who
is
age
19
or
under
that
vote
did
pass.
You
will
be
able
to
ride
free.
W
H
You
could
also
go
and
speak
to
the
County
Commissioners
who
do
have
you
know
we
don't
have
a
health
department
that
is
the
County's
Lane,
so
just
flagging
for
the
community
that
there
are
other
agencies
that
also
it's
great
to
flag.
Some
of
these
concerns
for
because,
because
sometimes
it's
not
quite
our
lane
or
domain
thanks.
B
B
Three,
this
is
the
occupancy
I'm.
Sorry,
the.
C
Occupancy
on
first
reading,
item
3B.
C
Thanks
Brad
Brad
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understood
3B
I'm
going
to
be
voting
against
it
tonight,
but
I,
but
I
I
want
to
first
very
much
be
grateful
to
you
and
your
staff
for
the
comedy
in
the
crest
of
council
a
few
weeks
ago
of
of
taking
a
look
at
the
not
confirming
use
areas
and
and
maybe
perhaps
carving
those
out
of
an
occupancy
increase.
So
that's
the
will
of
council
I
did.
S
C
H
Yeah,
my
I
think
this
is
the
right
time
to
say
that
I
need
to
disclose
as
to
3B
the
occupancy
issues.
I
do
have
a
short-term
rental
license
and
a
Community
member
wrote
into
Council
that
those
of
us
who
are
have
have
rental
properties,
maybe
should
recuse
so
I,
have
investigated
and
do
not
believe
that.
My
having
Airbnb
my
home
out
some
five
nights
over
the
last
four
years
compromises
my
ability
to
remain
impartial,
so
I
will
not
be
recusing.
B
B
Will
be
a
good
chance
so
know
that
that's
coming
two
weeks
from
tonight,
August.
B
D
AB
D
B
B
D
Thank
you,
sir
call
up.
Check-Ins
are
item
number
four
on
tonight's
agenda.
4A
is
the
extension
of
call
up
period
and
landmark
alteration
certificate
to
remove
a
fence
at
the
property
north
of
200
galadaria
Lane
in
the
Chautauqua
Park
historic
district.
Pursuant
to
section
9-11-18
of
the
boulder
Revised
Code
1981.
D
D
B
D
D
Too
many
papers-
my
apologies,
sir.
Thank
you
5A
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8580
designating
the
property
at
8,
30,
14th,
Street
city
of
Boulder
Colorado,
to
be
known
as
the
powers
house
as
an
individual
Landmark
under
chapter
9-11,
historic
preservation,
BRC
1981
and
setting
forth
the
related
details.
AC
Soul,
let's
see
if
we
could
go,
oh
I
have
the
next
slide.
Okay,
I'll
first
start
with
the
procedure.
First,
we'll
start
with
Council,
revealing
any
ex
parte
contacts.
Then
I'll
give
a
staff
presentation
followed
by
any
questions.
Council
may
have.
AC
The
owner
will
then
have
a
chance
to
present
I
believe
they
are
listening
in,
but
don't
plan
to
speak
this
evening
and
then,
following
that,
the
public
hearing
is
open
for
public
comment,
followed
by
Council
questions,
then
the
public
hearing
is
closed
and
Council
discusses
an
emotion
requires
an
affirmative
vote
of
at
least
five
members
to
pass
the
motion.
So
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
mayor
for
ex
parte
contacts.
AC
AC
AC
Before
I
begin,
I
would
just
like
to
thank
the
property
owner
for
nominating
their
house
as
an
individual
Landmark.
It's
actually
already
designated
in
the
University
Place
historic
district,
but
they
wanted
to
recognize
it
individually
and
I'd
also
like
to
thank
Claire
Brandt
who's
here,
the
other
historic
preservation
planner,
who
did
a
remarkable
job
in
the
history
of
of
this
application.
AC
This
application
began
in
March
of
this
year
when
the
property
owner
submitted
an
application
to
designate
their
property
as
an
individual
Landmark.
The
landmarks
board
unanimously
recommended
that
Council
approved
the
designation
at
their
hearing
on
May
3rd,
and
then
it
was
on
the
first
reading
for
the
consent
agenda
in
June
5th,
on
June
15th,
and
then
here
we
are
this
evening
in
August
for
the
public
hearing.
AC
AC
In
terms
of
its
historic
significance,
its
significance
for
its
1920
date
of
construction
and
its
association
with
Kate
mayhoffer
powers
and
Patrick
Powers
in
family
and
Patrick
Powers
was
a
prominent
Miner
who
had
interest
in
a
Weld
County
in
the
Shamrock
mine
and
he
didn't
live
in
the
house.
It
was
mostly
occupied
for
a
long
time
by
his
wife,
Kate,
and
so
the
name
is
intended
to
recognize
both
of
the
owners.
AC
In
terms
of
its
architectural
significance,
it's
recognized
as
an
excellent
example
of
the
Craftsman
Bungalow
style.
We
don't
know
who
the
original
architect
or
Builder
is,
but
it's
possible
that
the
fellow
who
owned
the
property
the
year
before
it
was
built
and
built
other
houses
in
the
neighborhood.
His
name
was
Alonso
denim,
it's
possible
that
he
constructed
the
house.
It
has
artistic
Merit
for
its
Craftsman
detailing,
demonstrating
masonry
and
vernacular
design
skill
and
in
terms
of
its
entire
environmental
significance,
it's
within
an
already
designated
historic
district.
AC
The
proposed
boundary
follows
the
property
lines
which
is
best
practices,
and
the
proposed
name
is
the
powers
house
recognizing
Kate
and
Pat
powers,
so
with
that
staff
and
the
landmarks
board
recommend
that
Council
designate
the
property
at
8,
30,
19
or
8
30
14th
Street,
to
be
known
as
the
powers
house
as
an
individual
landmark,
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
B
Thanks
so
much
any
questions,
we're
a
little
light
on
the
dice
here.
At
the
moment,
we're
gonna
have
to
get
some
people
back
to
have
a
vote,
so
I
understand
that
this
would
be
the
owner's
chance
to
speak
but
they're.
Turning
down
that
opportunity.
B
Q
O
Of
course
you
want
to
Landmark
this.
Of
course,
I,
don't
even
know
why
it
came
all
the
way
to
council,
because
777
Circle
didn't
even
make
it
to
the
landmarks
board
and
it
was
the
architect
they
knew
James
Hunter,
who
designed
you,
know
the
Masonic
temple,
which
is
now
the
museum
Boat
Museum
of
Boulder
Baseline,
Junior
High.
O
You
know
the
municipal
building
like
James
Hunter.
This
was
a
James
Hunter,
771
Circle
and
it
swept
through
ldrc
without
a
hitch.
Nothing
demoed,
6.1
million
dollars,
flagstone,
like
all
the
James
Hunters,
with
two
other
houses
nearby,
a
Charles
Hartland
that
Linda
jorgensten
had
who
was
a
mayor
of
Boulder
or
a
council
member
I,
don't
remember
and
a
usonian
that
was
also
a
James
Hunter,
the
only
house
on
the
way
up,
Flagstaff
within
three
houses
of
it.
It
is
demoed
unbelievable.
O
B
Lynn
we're
talking
about
8
30
14th
Street
tonight.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
topic.
O
Yep,
we
sure
are,
and
that's
an
example
of
the
fact
that
I
can't
trust
the
landmarks
board
at
all
now,
because
LDS
ldrc
is
not
recorded
now.
I
agree
that
this
place
should
be
Landmark.
Clearly,
you
know
it's
a
Craftsman
a
great
place
but
I,
don't
trust,
Landmark
Sport
and
that's
a
big
problem
for
the
city
of
Boulder
big
problem.
O
This
is
just
not
okay
to
go
on
like
this.
Ldrc
has
to
be
recorded.
It
is
no
longer
administrative
when
we
had
a
James
Hunter.
Take
him
down
that
just
swung
through
ldrc,
without
even
being
referred
to
landmarks
board,
much
less.
The
city
council
now
I'm
sure
you're
going
to
go
ahead
and
landmark
this
place,
but
what
about
777
Circle?
My
God
I
can't
believe
what
this
city
does.
It's
so
inappropriate
done.
B
C
P
Right,
let's
go
for
it
make
a
motion
to
adopt
ordinance
8580,
designating
the
property
at
830,
14th,
Street
city
of
Boulder
Colorado
to.
B
Okay,
yes,
Lauren.
D
AB
G
B
B
D
I
got
it
down
to
a
science,
all
right,
all
right
all
right.
Second
public
hearing
is
item
5B
on
tonight's
agenda.
It
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
emotion
to
adopt
the
following
ordinances
related
to
the
2023
ballot
measures
of
the
city.
Our
first
ordinance
is
85.86
related
to
the
petition
of
safe
zones
for
children,
I'm,
sorry,
safe
zones
for
kids.
Our
second
item
Ordnance
is
85.87,
which
is
related
to
Charter
changes
related
to
election
procedures.
D
Item
three:
a
is
the
ordinance
8588
related
to
the
extension
of
the
0.15
sales
tax
extension
item.
3B
is
the
alternate
ordinance
8591
related
to
the
0.15
City
sales
tax
extension
and
item
four
is
related
to
85.89
the
question
of
the
extension
of
the
0.15
sales
tax
related
to
the
arts
for
Boulder
petition.
N
AE
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
Aaron
Poe,
Deputy,
City
attorney
I
will
be
the
main
presenter
tonight,
though,
I
have
backup
with
Alicia
Johnson
our
city
clerk,
John
Morse,
our
elections
administrator
and
Cara
Skinner,
our
Chief
Financial
Officer
next
slide.
Please
tonight
we
have
five
measures
for
Council
consideration.
My
plan
is
to
break
the
format
into
two
halves.
In
the
first
half
we
have
the
safe
zones
for
kids
initiative
and
Charter
amendments
which
propose
changes
in
the
city
clerk
election
processes.
Then
I'll
pause
and
have
questions
on
those
measures.
AE
In
the
second
half
we
have
three
measures
relating
to
the
extension
of
a
0.15
percent
sales
and
use
tax.
There
is
a
petition
measure,
a
conflicting
City
measure
and
a
compromise
measure,
and
then
we'll
have
questions
again
at
the
end.
Next
slide,
please
all
right.
The
safe
zones
for
kids
petition
is
ordinance
8586
and
it
proposes
adding
a
subsection
C
to
Boulder
Revised
Code
8-3-21.
AE
That
would
prioritize
removal
of
prohibited
items
such
as
tents
and
propane
tanks,
on
city-owned
property
within
a
radius
of
500
feet
from
any
point
on
a
school
property
line
or
within
50
feet.
On
both
sides
of
any
multi-use
path
or
sidewalk
in
order
to
have
the
same
go
Dart
date
for
all
ballot
items,
staff
recommends
no
action
on
this
item
tonight.
It
would
move
forward
to
August
17th
for
final
Action.
Council
does
also
have
the
option
of
adopting
this
language
as
an
ordinance
in
lieu
of
placing
it
on
the
ballot
next
slide.
AE
AE
So
our
next
steps
reflect
the
preference
of
having
one
go
dark
date
of
August
17th
for
all
ballot
items.
The
go
dark
date
is
the
date
that
a
ballot
title
is
fixed
and
after
which
city
resources
cannot
be
used
to
fund
Express
advocacy
so
for
our
safe
zones
for
kids,
Ordnance
8586
staff
recommends
no
action
tonight
and
that
this
item
be
brought
back
to
Council,
on
August
17th,
for
final
action
and
for
Charter
amendments.
AE
C
You
know
I,
think
I'd,
know
what
you
mean
Aaron,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
they're
all
on
the
same
page,
when
you
say
no
action
on
these
two
items.
I
know
you're
going
to
maybe
recommend
something
similar
for
some
of
the
other
ballot
measures
in
a
second.
You
still
propose
we
have
a
public
hearing
tonight,
but
then
that
we
continue
the
public
hearing
and
take
our
vote
on
second
reading
on
those
two
items
on
August
17th.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
AE
AE
AE
AE
Second,
we
have
ordinance
8588,
which
is
the
staff
proposal
and
has
been
drafted
drafted
to
conflict
with
the
arts
for
Boulder
petition.
It
would
extend
the
current
general
purpose
tax
and
dedicate
100
of
tax
revenue
to
the
general
fund
and
third,
we
have
ordinance
8591,
which
is
a
compromise
ordinance
that
would
split
the
tax
revenue
50
to
the
general
fund,
50
to
Arts
cultural
and
Heritage
programs.
AE
AE
Staff
met
with
representatives
from
the
arts
for
Boulder
committee
to
discuss
the
ordinances
is
part
of
the
charter,
section
48
requirement
to
seek
input
from
an
initiative
committee
prior
to
council
setting
the
ballot
title.
The
petitioners
requested
that
the
city
council
consider
minor
amendments
to
the
ballot
question
related
to
the
initiated
petition
and
the
compromise
tax
question
on
the
title
related
to
the
petitioner's
measure
8589.
The
committee
requested
that
the
format
of
the
question
be
reorganized
to
be
consistent
with
the
other
tax
extension
measures
considered
by
Council.
AE
They
requested
moving
the
language
and
all
earnings
thereon,
retained
and
used
as
a
voter
approved
Revenue
change
under
Colorado
Constitution,
Article,
10,
section
20
and
any
other
laws
limiting
the
receipt
or
expenditure
of
revenues
to
the
end
of
the
question.
They
also
requested
a
modification
to
the
language
describing
the
revenue
earmark
to
more
clearly
describe
its
purpose
for
the
compromise
compromise
measure
8591,
the
committee
requested
a
modification
of
the
language
describing
the
revenue
earmark
to
more
clearly
describe
the
purpose
and
more
succinctly.
AE
AE
So
there
are
two
options
that
staff
recommends
Council
consider
moving
forward.
The
first
would
be
to
move
forward
with
two
conflicting
tax
extension
measures,
which
would
be
the
petitioners
8589
with
one
hundred
percent
of
funds
going
to
cultural
and
arts
purposes
and
the
staff
Proposal
8588,
with
100
of
Revenue
to
the
general
fund.
AE
AE
AE
That
would
be
one
hundred
percent
of
tax
revenue
to
the
general
fund.
That
item
would
move
to
August
17th
for
final
action,
that
Council
amend
and
pass
on
second
reading,
the
petitioner's
ordinance
8589
with
100,
going
to
Arts
culture
and
Heritage
programming
and
amend
and
pass
on
second
reading,
the
compromise
ordinance
8591
under
this
proposal
by
staff.
All
three
ordinances
would
move
to
final
action
on
August
17th,
pending
council's
decision
and
the
status
of
the
petition.
AE
If
Council
elects
to
move
forward
with
the
compromise
option,
the
committee
of
the
petitioners
must
withdraw
its
petition
and
then
the
compromise
ordinance
would
be
finally
passed.
If
the
committee
of
petitioners
did
not
withdraw
its
petition,
then
council
could
still
move
forward
with
the
two
conflicting
ordinances,
8588
and
8589.
C
Got
one
for
Aaron
and
and
then
one
for
probably
the
finance
team.
Do
you
want
me
to
just
do
the
one
for
Aaron
right
now
and
then
hold
off
in
finance.
S
C
Okay,
so
Erin.
That
was
all
very
clear,
so
thank
you
very
much.
I
know
it's
kind
of
confusing,
so
thank.
R
C
One
question
I
have
is:
we
did
receive
a
note
from
one
of
the
the
leaders
of
the
Arts
organization
today
indicating
that
there
was
their
intention
to
not
withdraw
the
petition
until
after
August
17.,
and
so
we
have
a
little
bit
of
a
conflict
there.
Obviously,
if
they
do
before
August
17th,
and
then
we
have
some
clear
decisions
to
make
if
they,
if
they
want
to
withdraw
it
after
they
see
us
move,
let's
say,
for
example,
the
compromise
ordinance
forward
on
the
17th
and
then
for
some
reason
they
didn't
withdraw.
C
AE
D
AE
D
Council,
excuse
me
councilman
Yates,
the
September
8th
deadline
date
is
the
date.
We
have
to
have
it
to
the
county
right.
C
So
you
really
need
to
pass
it
before
then
exactly
okay,
I
know.
One
of
the
representatives
of
the
of
the
petitioners
is
here
to
speak
of
public
comments.
So
maybe
you
can
talk
about
whether
they
intend
to
file
the
withdrawal
before
or
after
the
17th,
because
I
think
it
does
affect
our
procedure
right.
C
H
AF
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
the
difference
here
is
that
last
year
we
were
considering
a
referendum,
and
this
year
we're
considering
an
initiative
under
this
City's
Charter.
An
initiative
requires
consultation
with
the
petitioners,
and
so
that
consultation
falls
under
the
section
of
the
charter
that
describes
what
a
ballot
title
must
contain
and
that
it
must
contain-
and
forgive
me
I'm
not
going
to
quote
it
exactly
correctly,
but
a
clear
and
concise
statement
supported
by
facts
and
not
argument,
and
so
that
consultation
is
in
furtherance
of
setting
a
ballot
title.
AF
AF
B
W
B
Well,
let's
handle
those
here
in
a
minute
and
stick
to
our
ballot
measure
process.
Question
so
Aaron
a
question
for
you
in
terms
of
what
you're
recommending
on
amending
and
passing
on
the
second
readings
and
I,
just
you're
saying
that
we
should
pass
85-91.
You
know
as
part
of
that
process
and
I
just
wonder
if
perhaps
we
might
consider
only
passing
85.91,
if
that's
the
will
of
counsel
for
to
put
that
on
the
ballot
rather
than
the
Alternatives
it
feels
like.
AE
You
could
do
that
and-
and
we
did
think
of
proposing
it
that
way,
however,
passing
it
on
second
reading
tonight.
Passing
and
amending
it
would
not
would
still
require
a
third
reading
to
finalize
it.
So
I
think
that's
a
preference
of
counsel.
If
you
prefer
to
take
it
off
the
table
tonight,
you
don't
have
to
pass
it.
If
you
want
to
keep
that
door
open,
you
could
move
it
on
where
it
would
need
a
third
reading.
S
P
AE
P
Question
to
that,
and
and
I
say
this
out
into
the
ether
to
the
arts
for
Boulder
folks
in
particular,
one
of
them's
here
is
if
we
were
to
scrub
the
other
two
.15
ordinances
and
only
move
forward
with
the
compromise.
Might
that
be
enough
of
a
gesture
of
moving
forward
from
which
we
could
alleviate
that
sort
of
scheduling
bind
we
get
into
with
regards
to
the
withdrawal
of
the
petition?
Maybe
after
the
third
reading
and
say,
look
this
now!
P
AE
B
Great
thanks
for
that
Erin
and
so
I'll
ask
Council
for
their
Direction
when
we
get
to
our
deliberations,
but
just
I
guess
one
thought
is
to
potentially
make
our
decisions
tonight
so
that
the
17th
can
be
quick
and
easy,
potentially
okay.
So
that's
it
for
questions
on
these
slides.
Did
you
want
to
continue
Aaron.
B
K
C
Had
a
few
members
of
the
community
who
are
maybe
more
on
the
Human
Services
side
of
things
Express
to
some
of
us,
some
concern
that
if
we
did
adopt
the
compromise
measure,
which
would
have
about
half
of
the
general
fund,
a
tax
extension
going
to
arts
in
the
other,
half
staying
with
the
general
fund
and
I
know
that
none
of
this
goes
into
effect,
till
January
1
2025
right.
C
The
concern
that
that
was
expressed
that
maybe
I
would
like
invite
you
to
address
is
do
you
feel
I
know
you're,
looking
into
a
crystal
ball
a
year
and
a
half
from
now.
Do
you
feel
that
if
there
was
that
increase
in
funding
for
the
Arts
with
the
50
50
compromise,
that
would
still
be
adequate
funding?
Based
on
what
you
know
now
to
continue
to
support
our
various
Human
Services
programs.
AG
I'll,
take
a
crack
at
that,
as
so
I
think,
as
we
mentioned
before,
budgeting
is
tough.
Our
choices
are
very
tough,
I
think
to
be
clear,
based
on
what
we're
putting
together
for
the
2024
budget
and
we'll
dive
into
in
Earnest
in
a
few
weeks
from
now,
we're
not
anticipating
that
the
compromise
would
force
us
into
any
reductions.
Direct
Cuts
I
think
we're
we're.
AG
The
concern
that
we
have
raised
in
May
and
June
is
just
with
all
of
the
needs,
and
certainly
Human
Services
being
one
of
those
key
areas
in
community
restricted
funds
in
general
limit.
Our
ability
to
address
those
emerging
needs,
so
I
think
it's
a
long
answer
to
say
we
don't
anticipate
any
sort
of
direct
reduction,
but
certainly
it
makes
our
choices
that
much
more
incrementally
difficult.
Thanks.
W
AG
W
Okay,
so,
and
in
our
typical
budget
process,
if
we
were
going
to
allocate
150
million
dollars
to
a
specific
program
within
a
specific
Department,
what
would
the
engagement
process
typically
look
like
for
something
like
that.
AG
It's
a
good
question,
I
I
think
with
any
significant
investment.
We
typically
have
robust
engagement,
we're
working
on
it
on
the
budget
process
which
we'll
talk
about
a
bit
later
this
year.
I
think
a
good
example
is
with
ccrs
comes
to
mind,
is
a
significant
Capital
Tax
and
that's
over
many
many
years,
but
certainly
a
lot
of
Engagement
with
community
and
identifying
total
need
and
determining
what.
W
Thank
you
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
hearing
from
community
members
is
well.
We've
got
the
money.
That's
freed
up
from
the
library
district,
which
you
know
seems
Seems
like
it
should
be
a
significant
amount.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
about
that
and
if
that
sort
of
money,
that's
available
to
tap
into
sure.
AG
It
does
help
so
about
9.2
million
for
2023
was
made
available
because
of
the
creation
of
the
library
district.
As
we've
talked
about
with
Council
before
in
May
and
June,
we
have
tapped
into
those
funds
to
to
fund
some
key
Council
and
Community
priorities.
It
includes
the
behavioral
health
or
CARE
program.
That's
about
1.8
million
dollars
projected
in
2024
day,
Services
Center,
that's
projected
at
around
1.6
million
in
24.
W
Thank
you
and
then
one
of
my
other
questions
was
around
just
the
the
why
some
of
the
the
organizations
that
had
been
getting
funded
by
these
arts
and
culture
grants
did
not
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
maybe
more
of
a
question
for
you
Matt.
W
But
you
know
I
I
thought
that
in
our
2023
budget
we
had
increased
the
budget
for
the
Arts
grants
by
like
20
or
so
in
that
when
we
had
taken
money
from
some
of
the
funds
that
we'd
set
aside
for
doing
energy
assistance
for
low-income
families
and
and
things
of
that
nature,
so
I'm
I'm
just
curious
about
how
come
they
still
have
not
gotten
funding.
Even
with
Arts
funding
increasing
over
the
years.
AH
Thank
you,
councilmember
Matt
justanski,
with
the
office
of
arts
and
culture,
and
there
was
an
increase
in
funding
to
fill
some
gaps
that
the
scoring
that
the
Arts
commission
did
around
the
grants
program.
They
scored
several
organizations
high,
but
there
wasn't
enough
money
to
fund
and
especially
the
general
operating
support,
category
or
big
category,
and
so
that
funding
did
indeed
expand.
The
number
of
grants
that
went
out
and
so
many
organizations
did
receive
funding.
Five
organizations
did
receive
funding
through
that
and
I
want
to
point
out.
AH
W
Our
cultural
plan
very
soon
right
is
there
anything
about
that
update
process
that
you
think
might
change
the
nature
of
how
we
do
these
grants
so
I
mean
it
just
did
occurs
to
me
if
we
move
forward
with
putting
just
a
single
ballot
measure
on
that
is
a
50
50
split,
one
of
the
things
we're
doing
is
not
just
locking
ourselves
into
funding,
but
also
into
a
specific
program
kind
of
type
type
of
program
as
well.
AH
Well,
I,
don't
want
to
comment
on
what
the
outcome
of
the
vote
might
be,
but
I
will
say
that
over
the
course
of
the
first
nine
years
of
the
cultural
plan,
there
have
been
some
things
that
we've
noticed
that
have
been
enormously
successful,
that
we
think
should
move
on
and
some
things
that
we
could
probably
improve.
AH
AF
AH
Y
P
I
I
would
expect
to
Matt.
Let's
make
a
question
for
you
that,
like
with
and
sort
of
connects
to
two
things
with
just
about
any
department
and
who
gets
a
dedicated,
any
dedicated
money
would
be
parks
open
space,
you
name
it.
P
The
master
planning
process
is
the
vehicle
from
which
we
Define
engagement,
and
we
set
that
community
and
collaborative
vision
for
the
next
10
years
for
what
we
do
with
that
money
as
it
serves
that
Community
is
that
is
that
just
correct
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
nothing
different
about
how
this
money's
set
aside
for
the
Arts
and
how
we
engage
the
community
with
then
how
we
use
that
money.
Is
that
correct.
AH
As
far
as
cultural
Affairs
goes,
you
might
come
along
I
apologize
as
far
as
the
off
sorts
and
culture
goes.
Are.
The
cultural
Affair
plan
goes
that
it's
an
advisory
guideline.
I
can't
speak
to
what
might
require
us
because
of
a
dedicated
tax.
AH
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
but
that
the
cultural
plan
that
exists
now
was
had
deep,
Community
inquiry,
and
we
follow
that
because
it's,
it
was
a
vision
of
the
community
and
that's
something
we
wanted
to
fulfill,
not
because
of
any
sort
of
regulatory
thing
that
I'm
wearing,
but.
B
Any
other
questions
mark.
G
Thank
you.
That
was
a
great
presentation.
I
I'd
like
to
ask
a
question.
Just
one
of
the
finance
people,
you've
said
that
you
can
handle
the
choices
that
would
have
to
be
made
with
respect
to
the
dedicated
funds
and
the
compromise
when
you
do
so.
Are
you
assuming
that
the
base
funding
of
1.8
million
that
is
currently
received
by
the
Arts
Community
remains,
or
that
the
3.3
3.75,
whatever
it
is
funding
that
will
occur
from
the
initiative
we'll
be
covering
it?
All?
AG
Hi
Mark
happy
to
answer
that
question.
The
the
I
was
alluding
to
figures
that
we
were
assuming
with
the
current
arts
and
culture
budget
being
a
part
of
that
50.
So.
A
K
AG
B
AI
AI
AI
Our
ballot
item
asks
for
prioritized
removal
of
these
prohibited
items,
as
identified
in
Boulder
Revised
Code
8-3-21
that
are
within
500
feet
of
schools
and
50
feet
of
multi
multi-use
Pathways.
In
short,
the
city
uses
a
points-based
system
to
determine
what
prohibited
items
will
be
removed
and
when
our
ballot
item
asks
that
safe
zones
get
enough
points
whatever.
That
number
might
be
so
that
the
city
can
take
immediate
action
in
those
areas.
Our
ballot
item
does
not
ask
for
any
additional
resources.
AI
We'd
like
to
also
recognize
the
most
recent
work
of
Joe
tarayuchi
and
the
Sam's
team
to
remove
prohibited
items
that
spent
10
days
within
20
feet
of
the
school
perimeter.
As
student
athletes
have
returned
to
Boulder
High
we'd
also,
we
would
also
like
to
recognize
bvsd
security
Personnel,
who
undertook
increased
patrolling
last
spring
in
the
wake
of
the
propane
tank
explosions
near
Boulder
High.
We
look
forward
to
greater
coordination
with
school
and
City
resources
as
this
ballot
item
moves
forward.
Thank
you.
B
AJ
I'm
Nick
Forster
speaking
as
a
musician
as
the
founder
of
eTown
as
a
co-founder
of
Crete
Boulder
on
behalf
of
the
compromise
ballot
measure,
that's
in
front
of
you
today,
first
I
would
like
to
disabuse
you
of
the
notion
that
it's
Arts
versus
safety,
because
I
think
that's
inaccurate
and
unrealistic,
and
so
let's
agree
that
it's
a
it's,
not
an
honest
choice.
We
can
actually,
as
the
finance
committee
just
shared,
we
can
fund
Arts
to
an
extent
that
will
be
transformative
and
supportive
without
compromising
police,
fire
safety,
homelessness
and
other
initiatives.
AJ
Number
one
number
two
I
think
it's
really
critical
to
recognize
that
Arts
is
an
investment.
It's
not
an
expenditure
that
goes
down
the
drain.
These
are
dollars
that
enliven,
enrich
and
engage
our
community
in
such
a
way
that
it
generates
Revenue,
typically
1.3
to
two
dollars
per
dollar
invested.
So
there's
lots
of
research
that
supports
that
number.
Three
Arts
is
a
great
pathway
for
a
lot
of
deia
initiatives
that
we
share
with
the
city.
AJ
Number
four
I
want
to
remind
you
all
that
we
very
quickly
got
4
000
signatures
on
behalf
of
this
initiative.
There
is
a
big
appetite
in
the
community
for
more
funding
to
support
the
creative
economy
here
in
Boulder
and
I.
Think
that
we're
coming
to
you
now
with
this
compromise
measure,
because
we
know
there's
a
new
cultural
plan
coming,
we
know
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
collaborate.
We
know
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
partners
in
ensuring
a
more
creative,
more
engaged,
more
enthusiastic
and
a
more
economically
vibrant
downtown
for
Boulder.
AJ
AJ
We
want
to
be
partners.
We
want
to
work
together
to
try
to
create
a
vision
for
a
future
that
engages
all
of
us
on
behalf
of
creativity
and
a
more
diverse
economy
that
will
will
make
Boulder,
Lively
and
interesting
I'm,
confident
that
if
we
can
reach
that
compromise,
we
can
work
together
to
pass
this
measure
on
behalf
of
both
the
Arts
community
and
the
50.
AJ
That
will
remain
with
the
city
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
expand
this
Beyond
what's
stated,
in
other
words,
I
hope
this
doesn't
represent
the
maximum
potential
funding
for
the
Arts.
That
represents
an
opportunity
for
us
to
build
from
there
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
happy
birthday.
Tara
thanks.
C
K
AJ
C
Matt
had
a
really
good
idea
that
maybe
if
it
was
the
willow
Council,
that
we
might
pass
the
compromise
proposal
and
the
compromise
proposal
only
which
puts
us
a
little
bit
at
risk
on
the
calendar
for
the
city.
Only
one.
AJ
Yeah
I
think
we
would
want
to
look
at
the
compromise
language
that
we
suggested
and
make
sure
that
the
new
language
was
adopted
because
there's
some
questions
and
some
concerns.
We
have
about
the
language
that
came
from
the
city
attorney's
office
as
opposed
to
what
we'd
requested,
but
assuming
that
in
the
next
week,
or
so
I
mean
we've,
got.
We've
got
a
couple
of
weeks
before
the
17th
and,
assuming
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
hash
out
some
of
the
differences
in
the
language
I,
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
couldn't
withdraw
our
petition
sooner
again.
AJ
This
is
all
it's
an
all.
You
know
an
act
of
good
faith
and
Our
intention
to
all
of
you,
I'm
sincerely
saying
we're
we're
interested
in
Partnership
we're.
C
AE
Yes,
we
received
subsequent
request
yesterday
afternoon
for
additional
changes
to
the
language
and,
while,
while
it's
good
language,
it's
very
late
in
the
process
so
and
unnecessary,
it
doesn't
legally
add
or
detract
anything
really
would
be
a
wording
change
in
our
opinion.
AE
A
AJ
This
is
not
it's
not
unreasonable
for
us
to
react
to
the
language
that
we
received
yesterday
afternoon.
So
that's
all
I'm
saying
is
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
It
seems
like
we
ought
to
be
able
to
Hash
it
out
and
I.
Don't
see
any
problem
with
between
now
and
the
17th
of
August
being
able
to
agree
on
compromised
language
and
withdraw
our
ballot
initiative.
Well,.
AJ
C
AJ
Well
then,
I'm-
probably
not
empowered
to
speak
on
behalf
of
that.
Okay,
that's
fine!.
AB
Meeting
about
this
very
issue,
one
of
my
questions,
or
at
least
a
comment
that
I
made
that
Aaron,
Matt
and
Bob
would
go
back
to
the
Arts
community
and
my
understanding
I
think
Bob
responded
to
that
and
said
no,
it's
just
two
people
and
I
wanted
to
hear
from
you.
My
understanding
is
that
you
are
representing.
You
are
one
of
the
representative
who's
working
on
the
ballot
measure,
the
petitioners.
So
my
my
question
to
you
now
that
it's
a
50
50
initiative
that
we
are
looking
at.
AJ
AJ
AJ
That's
a
great
question:
Juni.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
that
you're,
absolutely
right
that
the
the
initial
petition
was
for
100
of
the
tax
going
to
arts
and
culture.
AJ
AJ
AJ
As
Mark's
question
came
in
regarding
the
finance
committee
and
and
what
level
of
existing
funding
would
be
maintained
and
what
side
of
the
budget
would
that
you
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
it's
a
leap
of
faith
for
us.
It's
a
leap
of
faith
for
us
in
the
Arts
Community,
because
there's
no
way
that
this
Council
can
bind
future
councils
on
behalf
of
exist,
existing
spending,
and
so
all
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
have
consensus
among
Arts
leaders
in
the
community
to
go
forward
with
a
50
50
compromise.
AJ
B
AD
Appreciated
you
speaking
to
you,
know
an
interest
in
collaborating
between
the
Arts
organizations
and
Council
and
I
I,
like
that
aspect
of
the
50
50
split,
but
I
also
am
struggling
with
like
the
idea
of
trusting
voters,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
controversial
idea.
But
how
would
you
feel,
or
do
you
have
any
sense
of
how
the
group
that
you
represent
would
feel
about
placing
all
three
measures
on
the
ballot.
AJ
Oh,
it's
a
great
question.
Lauren
and
my
feeling
is,
as
I
said,
we
got
4
000
votes
really
quickly.
During
a
monsoon
we
have
dozens
of
Arts
organizations
and
all
of
their
staff,
volunteers,
donors
and
patrons
aligned
behind
this
effort.
AJ
If
it
came
down
to
it,
I
have
a
lot
of
confidence
that
we
Prevail
at
100
percent
and
we
have,
as
I
mentioned,
a
lot
of
passion.
We
have
plenty
of
time
to
organize
and
we've
demonstrated
that
we're
really
good
at
organizing
so
I'm,
not
saying
that
as
a
threat.
I'm
simply
answering
your
question
that
if
all
three
were
to
go
on
the
ballot,
I
would
be
a
busy
boy
between
now
and
November.
AJ
7Th
and
I
would
feel
pretty
good
about
our
chances
and
and
may
I
also
clarify
I,
don't
represent
the
entirety
of
this
community
and
this
this
issue
I'm
here
as
an
Arts
person
as
an
Arts
leader
and
someone
who's,
passionate
about
this
and
who's
been
in
Boulder,
making
art
for
four
decades
or
more
and
I
I
feel
very
strongly
about
this.
But
I
don't
want
to
overstate
my
my
role
here
tonight.
W
AJ
AJ
AJ
Well,
that's
a
great
question.
Nicole
and
I
think
that
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
passion
in
the
community
to
do
that.
AJ
I
think
we're
we
we're
actually
hearing
from
a
lot
of
people
that
we
should
just
go
for
the
100
percent
and
I
think,
given
the
fact
that
the
cultural
plan
is
looming
and
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
craft
a
vision,
that's
a
little
bit
larger
that
actually
describes
how
arts
and
culture
can
interact
with
existing
City
priorities
and
needs
that
include
housing
that
include
health
care
that
include
diversity
and
Equity
inclusivity.
AJ
There's
a
lot
of
City
initiatives
that
have
an
Arts
component
that
is
potentially
pretty
dynamic,
and
so
the
idea
that
we
would
be
adversaries
going
for
these
dollars.
To
my
mind
at
least
sets
the
wrong
tone.
I
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
collaborate
on
behalf
of
including
arts
and
culture
in
many
City
priorities
and
I
share
I
mean
I'll,
be
really
honest
with
you,
I'm
I'm,
a
I'm
100
guy,
like
I,
actually
feel
like.
AJ
We
could
go
and
beat
the
bushes
and
and
and
win
so
I'm
I'm,
taking
a
leap
of
faith
here
as
well,
especially
given
Mark's
comments,
especially
given
you
know
the
idea
that
this
might
be
a
a
small,
incremental
shift
from
where
we
are
currently
we've
all
worked
really
hard
and
not
particularly
enthusiastically
about
an
incremental
shift.
We're
really
talking
about
a
dynamic
shift.
So
that's
my
answer,
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
I
respect
all
of
you
and
I
I
like
the
process
of
collaborating.
So
that's
all.
AJ
B
Yeah,
it's
all
good.
Let's
move
to
the
rest
of
the
public
hearing
or
unless
Rachel.
If
you
have
okay,
we
got
virtual
speakers
who
want
to
hear
from
our
first
three
are
Lynn
Siegel
Mary,
Horrocks
and
Carolyn
Kirk.
O
I
was
gonna,
say,
I
totally
agree
with
Nick,
but
I.
Don't
Nick
and
I
disagree
here,
100
I'm,
a
Nader
gal
I'm,
not
voting
for
Biden
again,
no
way
my
brother
Brad
no
way.
So
this
is
the
deal.
The
Arts
have
been
underfunded
for
decades
and
decades
and
we
owe
them-
and
this
is
the
time
to
speak
out
about
it
and
like
Nick
said
I
do
agree
with
them.
O
The
biggest
bang
for
the
buck
is
arts
and
Dei,
and-
and
this
is
the
thing
I'm
not
voting-
if
this
is
a
50
50
I'm
not
voting
for
it.
O
Okay,
not
gonna,
vote
50
50.,
it's
got
to
be
a
hundred
or
nothing
for
me,
so
compromise
doesn't
make
it,
and
you
know
what
you
lost
my
vote
last
year
with
the
Library
District
you're
taking
three
hundred
dollars
a
year
from
me,
I
haven't
got
the
money
and
my
property
tax
just
went
from
six
to
nine
thousand
bucks
a
year
and
inflation
and
covid,
and
you
know,
and
war
in
Ukraine
all
this
stuff,
I
paid
I
paid
at
the
office
I
already
did
it
and
I'm
really
insulted
by
the
fact
that
we
had
to
sell
off
our
library.
O
Let
the
developers
pay,
let
the
developers
pay,
let
the
developers
sit,
they
can
handle
it,
they
can
handle
it,
they
really
can
handle
it
and
I,
don't
see
any
change,
you're,
giving
away
parking
restrictions,
you're,
raising
height
limits,
you
pass
all
of
this
stuff
and
it
drives
up
inequity
and
causes
more
Dei,
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion.
O
Because
of
the
inequity
in
the
wealth
of
this
community
and
and
it's
got
to
be
stopped
and
and
then
I'm
getting
my
catalytic
converter
stolen-
has
the
crimes
weigh
up
thirty
seven
hundred
dollars
for
an
elder
I'm
70
now-
and
this
is
just
not
okay
and
I-
think
the
city,
the
city
seems
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
studying
stuff.
That's
like
obvious
way
obvious
and
that's
my
tax
dollars
and
it's
not.
Okay
and
the
Arts
are
undefended
for
a
long
time
and
we
owe
back
pay
big
time.
O
So
sorry,
folks,
but
50
50,
don't
make
it
for
me
no
way.
Thanks
for
what
you
did,
Nick.
B
Thanks
Lynn
Mary
Horrocks,
Carolyn,
Curtin,
Fran
zankowski.
L
Hello,
I'm
Mary,
Horrocks.
Okay,
can
you
hear
me
yes.
K
L
Thank
you,
I've
never
done
this
remotely
before
I'm
an
artist
having
lived
in
Boulder
since
1981
and
since
2019
I
served
as
executive
director
for
Open
Studios
part
of
that
at
the
dairy
Arts
Center
for
seven
years
is
curator
of
visual
art
and
education.
L
Council
members.
We
appreciate
your
hard
work
and
your
financial
support
the
work
of
the
Arts
Commissioners
and
the
arts
and
culture
staff,
so
very
much
I
request
that
Council
support
the
single
ballot
initiative
to
extend
the
0.15
sales
tax
extension
for
20
years,
with
50
of
the
funds
collected
dedicated
to
Arts
culture
and
Heritage.
In
other
words,
the
compromise
measure.
I
might
add
that
I
and
my
organization
support
Nick's
comments
that
we
can
collaborate
with
other
programs
of
the
city
to
improve
the
quality
of
life.
L
Here
now,
although
Boulder
ranks
third
among
similar
cities
in
the
proportion
proportion
of
artists
to
the
general
population,
an
estimated
4
500
working
artists
or
3.5
percent
of
the
City's
population,
according
to
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Arts
funding
for
the
Arts
in
Boulder,
still
lags
behind
Arts
funding
in
comparable
cities.
It
is
well
known
that
Arts
events
generate
revenue
for
the
city.
L
Not
only
are
tickets
sold
and
artworks
purchased
people
who
come
here
to
attend
Arts
events
spend
money,
dining
out
shopping
in
retail
businesses
and
more
to
provide
a
national
statistic
from
2021
production
of
Arts
and
Cultural
goods
and
services
in
the
U.S
added
4.3
percent,
directly
to
the
nation's
GOP
for
total
approaching
one
trillion
dollars.
That
amount
remains
greater
than
the
value
added
by
Industries,
such
as
construction,
transportation
and
warehousing
Mining
and
agriculture.
L
The
support
for
the
for
the
current
ballot
initiative
would
provide
approximately
3.75
million
dollars
for
City
support
for
the
arts
and
culture
ecosystem,
support
for
non-profit
Arts
artists
and
venues
that
would
flow
through
the
office
of
arts
and
culture
and
importantly,
because
the
revenue
stream
is
from
sales
taxes,
it
will
closely
track
inflation
over
its
20-year,
recycle
and
3.75
million
for
the
city's
generals
fund
to
be
spent,
as
the
city
wishes
importantly
sufficient
to
provide
the
public
safety
and
Human
Services
initiatives.
The
council
considers
a
high
priority
and
I
myself
do
as
well.
AK
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Caroline
Kurt
and
I
do
want
to
clarify
for
the
record
that
I'm
the
chair
of
the
boulder
Arts
commission,
but
I'm
not
hearing
that
capacity
I'm
here
in
my
role
as
a
resident
of
Boulder
and
an
Arts
attorney
in
this
community.
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you
to
the
council
for
all
the
difficult
work
that
you
do
to
balance
the
interests
in
the
community.
It
is
not
easy.
I
am
here
in
support
of
the
compromise
measure.
AK
According
to
SMU
data
Arts,
notably
that
index
measures
three
factors:
the
number
of
our
providers
in
the
community,
the
demand
for
Arts,
measured
by
audience-based
revenues
and
federal
and
state
government
funding
for
the
Arts
in
2021
Boulder,
ranked
seventh
out
of
all
medium-sized
cities
in
the
country
for
the
number
of
our
providers
10th
in
the
country
for
demand,
and
only
168th
for
state
and
federal
funding.
Government
funding
is
lagging
behind
for
a
city
with
our
population
and
demand
for
the
Arts.
AK
The
largest
budget
that
the
arts
and
culture
program
has
received
was
in
2023,
that
was
the
1.8
million
dollar
budget,
about
half
of
which
was
provided
through
the
federal
arpa
funds,
and
still
that
1.8
million
dollar
budget
is
only
half
of
a
percent
of
the
general
operating
budget
for
the
city
and
it
compares
to
Boulder
parks
and
rec
and
open
space
combined
budget
of
68
million
dollars
not
a
lot.
Every
year,
the
Arts
commission
may
make
heartbreaking
decisions
to
deny
grant
funding
to
programs
and
projects
that
are
compelling
would
provide
value
and
otherwise
receive
feedback.
AK
Governments
at
the
federal
at
the
state
and
local
level
receive
a
five
to
one
return
on
investment
when
they
spend
on
the
Arts.
Secondly,
according
to
the
Americans
for
the
Arts,
there
are
at
least
29
different
topics
that
are
affect
within
cities.
These
range
from
Workforce
Development
tourism
and
economic
development
to
aging
housing,
livability,
public
welfare
and
more
I
didn't
I
would
invite
you
to
visit
the
arts
for
Americans
website
to
explore
those
impacts.
AK
AL
Good
evening
Council,
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
address
you.
I
am
Frank
zankowski
like
Nick
I'm,
a
board
member
of
create
Boulder
and
also
the
publisher
of
the
boulder
weekly
and
just
as
a
side
note.
My
favorite
insect
is
the
lovely
earthworm
I
am
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
petition
committee
for
the
Arts
culture
and
heritage
tax
ballot
measure.
Seeking
your
support
for
our
proposed
compromise
measure
passing
this
compromise
will
afford
avoid
confusion
and
divisiveness
in
the
November
election
more
important.
AL
AL
AL
Three
Boulder
can
effectively
compete
with
other
Colorado
communities
that
are
prioritizing
the
Arts,
making
significant
Investments
to
strengthen
their
local
economies
and
their
communities.
Investment
investing
in
the
Arts
has
an
exponential
impact
on
economic
activity,
generating
jobs.
Increasing
local
spending
and
contributing
to
the
city's
tax
base,
they
are
to
fundamental
to
our
Collective
and
individual
Humanity.
They
Foster
vital
social
connections,
engender
a
sense
of
belonging
and
Empower
communities
to
work
together
in
addressing
challenges.
AL
AL
AM
All
right,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
okay,
my
name
is
Michael
knisely
I
am
a
teacher
for
the
past
45
years
now
and
for
the
past
seven
years
here
in
the
Boulder
area
and
I
care
deeply
for
all
of
my
students
and
my
colleagues,
well-being,
especially
as
we
seek
to
grow
and
strive
and
survive
and
thrive
in
this
21st
century
world.
AM
You
certainly
appreciate
and
value
the
many
roles
that
the
Arts
serve
for
to
enhance
the
quality
of
life
for
everyone
in
Boulder,
proper
and
outlying
areas
whose
lives
are
tied
to
this
essential
Center
of
civilization.
Here
on
Colorado's
Front
Range
revenues
generated
from
extending
this
compromise
ordinance
option.
Sales
tax
could
continue
to
provide
needed
financial
support
to
include
the
Arts,
its
organizations
and
its
individual
artists
who
depend
on
the
spectrum
of
community
members,
contributing
to
the
greater
cause
of
enriching
our
increasingly
vibrant
and
vital
community.
B
Our
Crux
issue
is
what
we're
doing
with
the
0.15
tax
measure,
the
things
the
things
with
the
potentially
most
disagreement
about
so
I'd
like
to
for
us
to
address
that
if
we
could
and
what
I
might
ask,
is
whether
Council
supports
this
8591
5050
compromise
measure
and
so
kind
of
look
to
council
I
mean
I
could
go
straight
to
a
straw
poll
where
people
wanted
to
offer
some
introductory
remarks.
That's
fine
to
us
or
Rachel
and
I
got
Nicole.
H
Okay,
I
will,
if
we're
this
is
what
we're
doing
I
will
speak
in
support
of
the
8591
compromise.
H
I
appreciate
the
community
members
who
noted
that
we
usually
get
a
two
to
one
return
on
investment
in
dollars
dedicated
to
Arts,
maybe
up
to
5.1,
someone
said
so
that
was
impressive
and
then
I
just
wanted
to.
If
you
will
humor
me,
Community
read
a
couple
lines
from
a
letter
that
we
received
from
the
NAACP
asking
whether
they
support
and
other
community
members
receive.
Some
Outreach
would
support
the
50
50
split.
H
So
this
is
just
a
few
lines
from
there.
The
Boulders
office
of
arts
and
culture
has
done
more
to
support
racial
Equity
than
any
other
City
Department.
To
date,
the
Arts
Community
has
shown
that
the
Arts
bring
in
Revenue,
mostly
by
attracting
tourists
and
patrons
from
outside
and
within
Boulder,
who
spend
money
on
adjacent
restaurants
and
retail
sales.
When
a
city
Embraces
cultural
awareness
and
art
the
result
is
revenue,
vibrancy
and
prestige.
H
The
NAACP
Boulder
County
could
easily
support
100
of
the
tax
going
to
the
Arts,
although
this
is
in
support
of
50
50
split.
Those
who
are
unclear
about
the
intrinsic
value
of
artists
in
society
are
advised
to
study
history
more
thoroughly.
The
Arts
speak
a
universal
language,
Reaching
Across
at
Reaching,
Across,
ethnic,
religious
and
economic
divisions.
The
Arts
allow
for
non-violent
cultural
shifts.
The
four
thousand
signatures
bringing
this
ballot
measure
forward
represent
voters
who
understand
the
value
of
unapologetically
supporting
the
Arts
in
Boulder,
recognizing
the
dramatic
and
positive
difference.
H
W
Thank
you,
so
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
have
a
different
opinion
here.
I
would
rather
put
the
two
original
or
all
three
measures
on
the
ballot.
If
we
move
forward
with
only
the
compromise,
we're
going
to
be
going
against
our
long-term
financial
goals,
to
move
away
from
dedicated
funding,
we'll
be
going
against
the
thousands
of
Voters
who
wanted
to
dedicate
this
whole
tax
to
arts
and
culture
and
we'll
be
going
against
the
evidence
in
our
polling.
W
That
said,
if
we
gave
them
the
opportunity
to
spend
more
money,
most
voters
would
like
us
to
put
money
into
other
programs.
The
feedback
that
we
received
from
a
handful
of
equity
focused
Arts
and
Cultural
organizations.
First
of
all,
thank
you
to
everybody
who
did
take
time
to
give
us
feedback
on
such
short
notice.
But
what
we
got
back
was
was
mixed.
Some
were
in
favor
of
the
compromise.
Some
were
in
favor
of
renewing
the
tax
only
for
general
fund
purposes,
somewhere
in
favor
of
the
measure,
giving
all
the
funding
to
the
Arts.
W
W
Of
course,
the
Arts
transcends
all
of
these
groups,
but
it
doesn't
sit
well
with
me
that
Council
would
move
forward
without
hearing
from
other
groups
that
are
in
need
of
extra
support.
We
also
didn't
get
feedback
from
our
human
relations
commission,
which
would
have
been
ideally
positioned
to
advise
us.
W
So,
with
this
compromise
measure,
we're
talking
about
55
million
dollars
or
more
over
the
next
20
years,
that's
a
lot
of
money
to
be
moving
pretty
quickly
and
if
we're
moving
so
quickly
with
such
a
large
amount
of
money
that
we
can't
engage
the
boards
and
commissions
and
other
groups
who
can
expand
our
thinking
about
the
impact
of
a
decision
like
this
I
would
prefer
to
not
change
course.
At
this
stage.
Let's
let
the
voters
take
the
wheel
and
put
the
original
City
measure
and
the
Arts
petition
on
the
ballot.
W
I
don't
see,
having
both
measures
as
being
divisive
I
actually
see
it
as
an
opportunity
to
get
buy-in.
Our
residents
are
smart
and
thoughtful
35
000
voters
will
do
a
far
better
job
of
sussing
out
this
issue
and
all
the
unattended
consequences
of
the
two
options.
Then
the
nine
of
us
will
I
really
don't
want
to
take.
This
vote
and
decision
from
our
community
I
have
faith
that
whatever
they
decide,
will
be
well
reasoned
and
will
set
us
on
the
right
path
for
the
next
20
years.
P
I
first
want
to
maybe
address
a
little
something
that
my
colleague
Nicole
just
said
with
regards
to
input
from
HRC
and
others.
None
of
the
ballot
measures
addressing
the
0.15
sought
that
input
or
got
that
input.
Does
that
mean
we
foreclose
going
anywhere
on
0.15,
absolutely
not,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
maybe
not
use
what
happens
towards
the
end
of
ballot
measure
process
and
an
opportunity
to
unify
and
collaborate
as
a
means
to
Halt
all
that
work.
P
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
recognize
that
we
have
a
cultural
master
plan.
That's
about
to
give
us
an
immense
opportunity
to
set
a
road
map
for
how
we
invest
and
how
we
engage
in
every
aspect
of
our
community
in
order
to
make
the
Arts
not
just
great
but
to
make
them
the
proper
return
on
the
investment
we're
about
to
make
in
the
Arts
and
I.
Think.
That's
critical
for
us
to
do.
P
I
first
want
to
just
thank
arts
for
Boulder
the
ballot
committee
and
all
the
people
that
signed
this
position,
because
what
it
did
is
it
really
brought
us
all
to
the
table
to
talk
about
how
we
can
transform
this
community
and
give
them
the
proper
tools
to
be
successful
now
and
into
the
future
and
and
I
appreciate
what
Rachel
brought
up
with
regards
to
the
letter
we
got
from
NAACP
and
what
that
return
of
investment
is.
This
is
the
floor.
P
Not
the
ceiling
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
recognize
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
transform
the
Arts
and,
if
there's
more
to
come,
we
have
perhaps
so
we
have
B
mocha
moving
North.
Hopefully
we
have
we're
talking
about
a
Performing
Arts
Complex,
we're
talking
about
infrastructure,
for
places
for
performing
other
performers
and
other
artists
to
have
space
to
minimize
the
impacts
of
high
rent
in
our
community.
I.
Think
all
of
those
things
are
things
and
reasons
why
we
make
that
investment.
P
It's
important
for
us
to
recognize,
as
Nick
said,
that
this
is
an
investment,
not
an
expense.
So,
for
all
of
those
reasons,
and
for
the
sake
of
being
collaborative
I,
think
it's
important
for
us
to
move
forward
with
this
compromise
of
50
50.,
it's
the
best
thing
we
can
do
where
we
all
win,
but
we
all
lose
a
little
too
when
we
compromise
the
city
doesn't
get
to
have
all
of
its
general
fund,
and
nor
does
the
Arts
take
the
risk
on
their
end.
P
So
this
is
exactly
what
community
does
when
there's
two
things
going
in
a
different
direction?
We
find
a
middle
ground.
We
find
a
way
where
everybody
gets
a
little
something
out
of
it.
So
I
think
this
is
a
great
alternative,
given
that
we
are
getting
pulled
in
two
different
directions.
So
I
enthusiastically
will
support
this
compromise,
This,
Is,
50,
50
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
how
it
transforms
our
community
going
forward.
C
Well,
I'll
just
pick
up
where
Matt
left
off
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
compromise.
Too.
I
really
appreciate
the
arts
for
Boulder
bringing
this
to
us
and
their
willingness
to
to
move
to
50
50,
even
though
they
have
a
real
right
to
go
for
the
100
ballot
measurement
they
may
they
may
win
that
they
may
not.
If
it
goes
forward.
I
think
there's
a
little
confusion
here
on
the
diocese
and
so
I
want
to
try
to
clarify
it
or
at
least
to
State
my
understanding
of
it
maybe
I'm
wrong.
C
We're
not
allocating
any
money
tonight,
we're
not
doing
a
budget
tonight.
We're
not
saying
that
20
times,
3.7
million
is
going
to
the
Arts,
we're
not
saying
anything
tonight.
The
only
decision
we're
making
tonight
is
what
to
put
on
the
ballot.
The
voters
will
decide
how
much
of
this
money
should
go
to
the
Archer.
K
C
Is
the
voter's
decision?
The
only
decision
we're
making
is
what
do
we
put
in
the
ballot
and
the
arson
Boulder
group?
Has
the
right:
has
the
legal
right
tonight
to
insist
that
we
put
their
100
percent
ballot
measure
on
the
measure
on
the
ballot
and
they
could
say
that
tonight
and
we
would
have
to
do
that.
We
have
no
choice
but
they've
come
to
us
now
and
said
you
know
what
we
got
the
signatures
at
100,
but
we're
willing
to
actually
accept
only
50
percent
Council.
C
What
say
you
would
you
do
you
want
to
have
zero
percent,
or
do
you
want
to
have
50?
That's
the
only
decision.
We're
making
here
we're
not
making
a
decision
about
what
to
give
to
the
Arts.
That's
going
to
be
a
voter's
decision,
and
so
all
we're
being
asked
to
is
what
to
Tia
for
the
voters
and
the
folks
who
own
the
legal
rights
to
put
this
on
the
ballot
have
said.
C
You
know
what,
for
all
the
all,
the
wonderful
reasons
that
Fran
and
Nick
and
others
have
said
about
compromise
and
collaboration
and
cooperation,
which
I
very
much
appreciate.
They've
said
you
know:
we
even
though
we
have
a
legal
right
to
it,
100
we
will
take
50
and
we'll
go
hand
in
hand
to
the
voters.
With
that
to
me,
that's
a
that's
a
no-brainer
decision
I
mean
that's.
It
doesn't
get
any
better
than
that
where
somebody
voluntarily
gives
up
a
right
and
says
we'll
take
less.
G
Well,
I'm
going
to
take
a
different
point
of
view
and
agree
with
my
colleague
Nicole
on
this.
You
know
we
have
been
increasing
Arts
funding.
We
have
not
discussed
not
only
the
extent
to
which
we've
been
increasing
it,
but
the
velocity
at
which
we
have
been
producing
it,
and
now
we
are
looking
to
double
it
again
and,
as
my
some
of
my
colleagues
have
said,
who
may
differ
from
me
on
this
issue,
they
use
this
as
a
floor,
not
a
ceiling,
so
we
may
be
looking
at
tripling
or
quadrupling
it.
G
Effort
came
before
us
tonight
and
said
we
are
seeing
vast
increases
in
Need
for
our
services
now
we're
not
providing
50
percent
of
this
for
them,
and
they
could
make
an
equally
strong
case
that
the
services
that
they
provide
are
of
inestimable
value
to
this
community
I
know
Nick
is
is
very
confident
in
his
ability
to
Prevail
on
this,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
and
he
may
be
correct.
But
to
me
this
is
a
decision
that
ought
to
be
made
by
the
voters
of
Boulder.
G
Not
by
this
an
artificial
compromise
I
prefer
to
see
both
Knicks
initiative,
language
and
our
competing
ballot
be
placed
on
on
the
ballot
and
let
the
community
decide
whether
they
want
a
more
robust,
a
general
fund
and
an
ability
to
address
more
things
that
are
that
we
need
to
address
or
whether
they
want
to
divert
more
of
our
funds
to
the
Arts
that
it's
a
major
decision.
It
will
have
impact
and
I
know
it
will
have
impact.
G
But
you
know
what
we
have
a
very
bright
Community
here:
that's
what
they
want
I'm
happy
to
have
them
do
that.
You
know
we'll.
We
will
have
to
figure
out
how
to
do
that,
but
we
will
and
I
am
not
but
I'm,
not
at
all
convinced
that
that's
the
way
the
vote
would
go.
I
think
people
do
have
a
sense
of
the
the
various
needs
and
competing
needs
of
the
city
and
I
would
let
them
make
that
choice.
So
I,
I
I,
would
not
support
the
compromise.
G
I
would
support
putting
on
the
ballot
the
100
percent
for
the
Arts
and
our
competing
resolution
and
taking
it
from
there
and
let
the
people
who
really
should
make
the
decision
the
voters
make
the
decision.
Thank.
AD
Thank
you,
I
I
appreciated
what
Matt
said
this
compromising
is
safe
and
I
do
feel
like
we
all
win,
but
we
all
lose.
AD
I
would
like
to
give
the
voters
the
full
range
of
options
that
we're
considering
here.
We
have
been
told
time
and
time
again
that
earmarking
is
not
a
good
idea
for
our
long-term
Financial
strategy,
but
this
is
really
the
people's
money
and
it
is
really
their
decision.
E
Well,
first
I
want
to
say
that
we
on
Council
make
a
lot
of
decisions
that
we
don't
get
votes
on.
So
that's
first
of
all,
but
what
I
really
want
to
say
is
Council
is
full
for
me
of
a
lot
of
difficult
decisions
and
trade-offs.
Tonight,
I
have
to
say
not
just
because
it's
my
birthday,
Nick
and
because
we
have
the
cutest
kids
ever
as
the
pollinators
come
I
was
really
smiling
tonight,
because,
first
of
all,
your
speech
was
inspiring
for
me,
but
also
because
I'm
really
get
excited.
E
When
we
can
do
something
like
this,
where
we
can
work
together,
we
can
have
Partnerships
and
I.
Think
everybody
actually
wins
so
I'm
excited
I.
Think
for
me
Arts
is
we
do
a
lot
of
stuff
that
is
like?
How
can
we
fix
this
and
how
can
we
fix
that
and
I
do
like
fixing
things,
but
for
me,
Arts
is
more
Visionary,
so
it's
combining
fixing
and
Visionary.
At
the
same
time
to
me
it's
the
perfect
partnership.
I'm
excited
to
vote
for
that
50
50
partnership.
B
All
right,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
on
myself.
I
want
to
congratulate
the
arts
for
Boulder
folks
for
Gathering,
so
many
signatures
in
such
a
short
time
period.
When
I
saw
you
start
that
work
I
looked
at
the
time,
clock
and
thought
that
seems
unlikely
to
be
successful.
But
you
pulled
it
off
which
showed
a
very
high
level
of
enthusiasm
in
the
community
for
this
measure
so
congrats
on
that.
B
So
then
thank
you
to
the
arts
for
Boulder
folks
for
coming
to
us
to
to
talk
about
a
compromise,
because
we
have
a
unique
opportunity
here
to
add
additional
transformative,
Arts
funding
without
reducing
other
city
services,
and
so
I'm
excited
to
move
forward
with
this
with
this
compromise
and
look
forward
to
putting
it
on
the
ballot
and
hopefully
having
it
passed.
So
the
the
Arts
feed
our
souls,
and
hopefully
this
text
Will
nourish
our
community,
the
soul
of
our
community.
For
many
years
to
come,
so
thank
you.
B
H
B
So
we've
we
could,
if
no
one
else
has
any
further
comments.
We
could
go
to
a
motion
on
this
one
check.
P
Before
I
make
a
motion,
I
just
had
a
clarification
with
Aaron
or
Teresa
with
regards
to.
If
we
choose
to
Pat,
if
I
choose
to
make
a
motion
with
regards
to
passing
85.91
with
regards
to
moving
forward
with
only
that
and
not
the
other
two
be
it
85,
88
and
8589
do
I
need
to
say
something
about
not
moving
forward
with
them
or
by
saying
nothing
is
sort
of
defaulting
to
that.
I.
P
J
P
Without
raising
additional
taxes,
extending
the
existing
0.15
Cents
city
sales
tax
and
use
tax
approved
by
the
voters
by
ordinance
7300
beyond
the
current
expiration
date
of
December
31st
2024,
until
December
31st
2044,
with
50
of
the
revenue
used
to
fund
fire
emergency
response,
Services
Public,
Safety,
Services,
homelessness,
Solutions
and
services
parks
and
other
General
front
purposes,
and
50
percent
of
the
revenue
used
to
fund
Arts
culture
and
Heritage
programs
as
a
voter,
approved
Revenue
change,
specifying
the
form
of
the
ballot
and
other
elected
election
procedures
and
setting
forth
related
details.
Second,.
T
AB
P
B
P
With
regards
to
the
hotline
that
was
sent
a
few
days
ago,
that
amended
language
which
I
read
the
ballot
title
of,
and
then
there
was
related
details
that
followed
that
were
modified.
Does
that
clarify
that's.
B
You
got
a
motion
in
a
second
unless
we
need
further
discussion
Alicia
can
we
go
to
a
vote?
Please.
W
G
I
AD
AD
AD
To
pass
an
amend,
85
89,
submitting
to
the
registered
electors
of
the
city
of
Boulder
at
the
general
Municipal
coordinated
election
to
be
held
on
Tuesday
November,
7th
2023.
The
question
of
without
raising
additional
taxes,
extending
the
existing
0.15
cents,
City
sales
and
use
tax
approved
by
the
voters
by
ordinance
7300
beyond
the
current
expiration
date
of
December
31st
2024
until
December
31st
2044
and
earmark
revenue
from
this
tax
extension
to
fund
Arts
culture
and
Heritage.
B
AD
P
Lauren
I
got
a
question
for
you.
What's
that.
P
Absolute
statements
are
tough
right,
so
my
question
for
you
is
with
regards
to
your
desire
to
see
all
three
on
the
ballot
and
in
particular,
who
knows
you
just
voted
yes
on
85.91
and
so
I'm
wondering.
Does
your
support
of
85
91?
P
Is
that
contingent
on
seeing
the
other
two
on
the
ballot
or
or
perhaps-
and
maybe
you
can't
answer
this
now,
but
I'm-
just
sort
of
curious
about
if
you're,
if
your
support
for
8591
is
really
contingent
on,
perhaps
the
other
two
also
being
on
the
ballot,
and
so
I'm
just
sort
of
wondering
how
this
plays
out
because
next
week,
as
planned
to
might
Paul
fall
off.
AD
AD
AB
AB
Thank
you,
I
think
this
is
a
process
question.
It
is
for
you,
Aaron
or
maybe
for
the
petitioners
Nick.
So
we've
decided
that
we're
going
50
50
with
the
understanding
that
the
petitioners
or
the
representatives
will
remove
their
measure.
If
we
were
to
add
the
other
two,
we
would
have
to
get
their
buy-in,
wouldn't
we
or
we
would
be
able
to
just
do
it.
You.
AB
AE
I
believe
what
I've
heard
from
them
is
that
they
will
wait
to
withdraw
their
petition
until
after
the
17th,
though
I
I
may
have
understood
that,
so
it
could
put
counsel
in
the
position
of
having
to
repeal
if
they
said
they
would
and
they
didn't.
The
August
24
study
session
could
be
converted
to
a
special
meeting
and
the
compromise
50
50
could
be
repealed.
AB
AF
AF
They
do
not
they
they
do
not.
The
council
is
the
body
with
the
authority
to
act
tonight.
The
petitioners
have
acted
by
collecting
their
signatures
and
submitting
a
petition
that
has
been
certified
by
our
Clerk
and
so
they've
taken
that
action.
In
addition,
they
have
conferred
with
the
city
for
the
language
of
the
ballot
title
and
the
city
has
proposed
ballot
title
language,
and
so
everything
that
the
petitioner
has
to
do
has
been
accomplished
whether
they
withdraw
a
petition
or
not.
Is
it.
AF
S
H
To
follow
up
on
juni's
question
I
had
asked
about
this
at
the
last
time.
We
discussed
it
too,
like
what
did
what
would
the
petitioners
think
about
having
three
options?
So
I
don't
know
if
yours
is
like
a
a
formally,
what
can
we
do
or
don't
we
want
to
know
what
they
think
of
it,
because
we
just
tried
to
compromise
so
I
had
asked
that
the
people
who
were
kind
of
chatting
with
them,
you
know,
look
into
that
and
I.
H
B
C
Kind
of
inclined
to
vote
just,
let
me
ask
you
a
question
and
I'll
make
a
statement.
I
think
if
we
passed
85.89
today
on
the
motion
that
Lauren's
made.
That's
not
the
final
reading
we
still
would
have
to
have
one
more
reading
on
85
89.
Is
that
right.
C
If,
if,
if
the
petitioners
had
come
up
here
and
said
two
things,
we
are
happy
with
the
language
of
85.91
and
if
they
had
said
and
if
you
guys
pass
it
on
second
reading
it
and
promise
to
pass
on
the
third
reading,
we'll
withdraw
our
petition
between
now
and
then.
But
it
said
those
two
things:
I
wouldn't
be
interested
in
85.89,
but
we
have
two
areas
of
uncertainty.
C
Apparently
we
are
still
equivalent
over
the
language
and
we
don't
have
I'm
out
here
in
the
petitioner
saying
that
they'll
withdraw
their
petition
before
the
17th
of
August.
So,
in
light
of
those
two
things
I'm
inclined
to
vote
to
move
forward
to
85.89,
it's
not
the
final
reading,
but
that
does
preserve
us.
Some
optionality.
As
far
as
time
goes.
What
I'm
afraid
of
is
we'll
get
to
the
17th
of
August.
We
will
only
have
moved
forward
85.91
and
we'll
have
some
sort
of
mass
with
the
language,
because
we've
already
had
some
messy
discussions.
C
It
sounds
like
with
the
language
and
we
will
not
have
had
a
withdrawal
of
the
petition
and
then
we'll
be
out
of
not
out
of
options
but
coming
close
to
out
of
options,
because
we
won't
have
even
past
second
reading.
We
still
have
to
do
a
third
reading
on
85.89,
so
I'm
inclined
to
just
for
safety
sake.
Safety
Net's
sake,
past
85.89
tonight.
That
gives
us
optionality:
I'm,
not
supportive
of
82.89,
but
I.
C
Just
think
that,
because
of
of
the
large
uncertainty
here,
as
we
sit
here
just
weeks
away
from
our
measure,
deadline,
I
think
we
need
to
pass
it
I
appreciate
your
your
suggestion.
Man
I
thought
was
a
great
one,
but
but
then
we
learned
some
things
that
maybe
caused
that
not
to
work
so
I'm
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
85.89
at
least
tonight.
C
B
I'm
calling
myself
and
agree
with
what
Bob
has
just
said
that
you
know
I
think
that
for
safety's
sake
that
moving
85
89
forward.
While
we
continue
the
discussions
on
the
details
of
the
language
is
a
safe
thing
to
do,
and
then
hopefully
we
can
move
forward
cleanly
with
8591
with
final
language
and
have
that
be
the
only
thing
at
the
August
17th
meeting,
but
I'll
I'll
vote
for
for
Lauren's
measure
on
85.89,
but
I
will
say
that
Lauren.
B
If
you
do
continue
to
to
then
also
move
8588,
which
is
the
100
general
fund,
that
I
will
not
support
that
motion.
I
do
not
want
to
move
all
three
forward.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
shooting
towards
85.91.
That's
the
50
50
compromise,
so
I'll
just
put
that
out
there
right
now.
All
right.
Any
other
comments
before
we
go
to
a
vote
on
motion
Nicole.
W
I,
just
since
I
seconded
just
wanted
to
add
I
mean
I,
think
you
know
Bob
you
mentioned.
We
don't
want
to
sort
of
predetermine
outcomes
here,
but
it
feels
like
that's
kind
of
what
we're
doing
that.
We
wouldn't
be
trying
to
strike
a
compromise.
If
you
know,
we
didn't
think
that
the
Arts
measure
at
100
was
potentially
going
to
pass,
but
it
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
assumptions
here
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
don't
know
what
the
voters
are
going
to
do.
W
So
I
really
would
still
like
to
see
all
three
move
forward
and
I
will
vote
for
this.
Also
wanting
to
vote
for
the
8588
when
that
comes
to
it.
B
D
B
L
D
C
S
B
AD
AK
AE
AD
B
AE
B
Very
good,
so
that
then
covers
all
five
of
our
potential
ordinances
that
we're
discussing
so
good
work.
Everyone
talking
that
through
and
so
I
just
want
to
comment
on
on
where
that
that
leaves
us,
which
is
that
I
think
we
have
given
some
pretty
clear,
Council
Direction,
but
we
have
not
taken
final
votes
on
which
ordinances
to
actually
adopt
so
I
think
on
the
17th.
B
This
will
be
to
see
a
seed
decision,
but
we
may
put
these
on
consent,
but
then
have
or
the
continued
hearing
is.
Maybe
that's
what
we
already
have
that
as
a
placeholder.
Should
we
continue
the
hearing.
B
Right
so
we'll
leave
that
up
to
a
CAC
to
make
that
decision,
but
just
I
think
everyone
can
anticipate
that
we'll
have
to
talk
about
this
at
least
a
little
bit
on
the
17th
to
make
the
final
decisions
in
the
final
votes.
Any
other
thoughts
on
this
matter
before
we
close
it
out
all
right.
Thanks
for
productive
and
civil
discussion,
and
thanks
again
to
the
petitioners
for
their
collaboration,
it's
always
fun
to
work
through
some,
some
actual
motions.
So
all
right,
if
we
can
then
go
to
our
matter
from
the
city
manager,
please.
D
N
Thank
you
so
much
council
members
and
this
item
has
been
before
Council
we've
talked
about
it
a
few
times
and
we
have
our
director
of
Housing
and
Human
Services
here
to
provide
a
quick
update.
AA
Leaving
it
again,
Council
I'm
your
closer
tonight,
if
you
could
put
up
the
presentation.
AA
So
again,
we're
we're
discussing
a
a
project
which
came
in
front
of
council
several
years
ago.
It's
currently
under
construction
at
311
Mapleton.
AA
The
the
developer
put
forward
a
proposal
to
meet
their
inclusionary
housing.
It
was
very
different.
When
then,
what
would
be
required
under
inclusionary
housing
and
to
recall
at
that
time
our
inclusionary
housing
requirement
was
20
percent.
AA
It's
currently
25
percent,
so
it's
a
development
of
91,
Independent,
Living
units,
and
so
what
they
had
committed
to
at
the
time
was
eight
units
on
site
and
then
to
develop
the
fruhof
site,
which
is
on
33rd
Street
as
an
affordable
housing
development
also
for
seniors,
and
that
was
documented
through
an
agreement
that
was
presented
to
council.
If
I
recall
a
couple
of
days
before
that
final
votes,
and
then
we
didn't
hear
it
about
hear
about
it
for
quite
some
time.
AA
They
eventually
started
development
at
311
Mapleton
and
when
they
pulled
their
their
building
permits,
they
paid
cash
and
lieu,
and
what
had
happened
prior
to
them,
starting
at
311
Mapleton
is
the
agreement
that
actually
expired.
It
was,
it
was
based
on
them
receiving
financing
for
fruhofs,
and
so
the
the
the
agreement
that
was
made
was
actually
null
and
void
at
that
point,
so
it
reverted
back
to
the
inclusionary
housing
requirements
of
20
percent.
AA
So
it
was.
It
was
a
difficult
challenge
for
Council,
as
well
as
for
the
community,
and
so
as
staff.
When
we
saw
that
happening,
we
began
negotiating
with
a
developer
to
see
if
we
could
come
to
an
agreement
which
was
closer
to
their
original
commitments
and
I'm,
not
speaking
for
the
developer
tonight.
But
the
reasons
they've
given
for
that
change
in
Direction
was
issues
related
to
financing
and
cost
of
construction.
AA
So
they're
gonna,
it's
it's
a
it's
a
site,
review,
I'm!
Sorry,
it's
a
voluntary
agreement.
That's
that's
been
made,
and
so
the
fruhof
site
which
they
are
going
to
develop,
they
will
be
donating
to
the
city.
The
city,
in
turn,
will
be
turning
that
over
to
Boulder
housing,
Partners,
to
eventually
develop
that
site
and
in
lieu
of
the
eight
units
that
they
had
committed
to
provide
on-site,
they
will
be
paying
a
total
of
1.7
million
dollars
in
cash
and
lieu.
AA
If
they
had
reverted
to
what
they
were
required
under
inclusionary
housing,
it
would
have
been
about
3.8
million
dollars.
So
it
says
here
on
the
slides.
The
closing
is
scheduled
for
the
week
of
August
17th
we're
actually
targeting
to
to
close
this
next
Monday
and
one
of
the
questions
that
have
been
asked
by
Council
I
think
Mark
Wallach
had
asked
the
question
you
know:
how
do
we
hold
them
to
this
current
agreement,
so
this
agreement
is,
is
holding
them
accountable
by
not
giving
them
certificates
of
occupancy
on
I.
AA
Believe
it's
for
specific,
specific,
specific
buildings
and
that's
the
The
Leverage.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
the
agreement
is
completed
in
full,
so
the
community
has
followed
this
project
very
closely.
Many
community
members
have
been
concerned
about
it,
so
we
wanted
to
present
this
to
U.S
Council,
to
make
you
aware
of
the
the
outcomes
and
also
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
ask
any
questions
that
you
may
have
about
the
process
and
where
we
landed.
Thank
you.
B
C
Thanks
Aaron
thanks
Kurt,
that
was
very
helpful.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
some
of
the
elements
that
you
you
highlighted
for
us.
You
said
that
the
the
total
value
your
estimated,
the
total
value
of
of
the
of
the
donation
of
the
fruhaus
land,
plus
the
1.7
million
in
cash,
would
be
about
eight
million
dollars.
Is
that
right?
That's
correct,
so
should
I
assume
from
that
eight
minus
1.7,
you
value
the
freehop
site
at
about
6.3
million.
C
That's
correct
and
I
think
I
heard
you
say,
but
I
wanted
to
emphasize
this,
that
forget
about
the
brewhouse
property,
because
obviously
they're
not
required
to
go
forward
with
that,
but
with
respect
to
the
311
Mapleton
property,
if
they
simply
fulfill
their
their
20
cash
and
lieu
requirement,
it
would
simply
write
us
a
check
for
3.8
million
and
be
good.
Is
that.
C
Requirement,
yes,
so
we're
getting
a
little
bit
more
than
twice
as
much
as
they're
legally
required
to
pay
that's
correct
and
then
finally,
I
I
think
you
said
that
the
property
is
going
to
be
conveyed
voluntarily
or
given
to
the
city
free,
the
fruit
house,
property.
And
then
it's
your
intention
to
to
pretty
quickly
turn
that
through
house
property
over
to
Boulder
housing
Partners.
Is
that
right,
closing.
C
So
you
won't
even
be
there,
but
there
won't
be
two
closings
got
it.
Okay,
that's
great!
That's
even
better,
and
then
you
know
what
Boulder
housing
Partners
intention
is
with
respect
to
the
brewhouse
property.
AA
So
what
they
have
told
me
is
that
they
would
also
like
to
Target
a
development
that
that
provided
housing
for
seniors.
Okay.
As
you
know,
they
have
a
number
of
developments
that
they're
working
on
right
now,
and
they
will
look
at
that
to
see
where
that
fits
in
their
queue
of
projects.
So
they
haven't
committed
on
a
time
frame
yet
of
when
they
would
focus
on
that.
C
AA
C
Will
because
of
covenants
on
the
property
great
great-
and
this
is
probably
a
question
for
Brad
if
you
happen
to
know
the
answer-
I
know
that
many
many
years
ago
we
did
a
concept
review
on
on
this
property.
Do
you
know
if
that
concept
review
is
still
fresh
or
we
kind
of
have
to
start
over
again
with.
AA
Boulder
housing:
it
has
expired.
Okay,
it
doesn't
mean
that
I
don't
know
what
the
process
is
for
for
digging
it
up
again
and
presenting
it,
but
that's
also
a
possibility.
C
Let
me
they
might
want
to
do
something
slightly
different
anyway.
That's
correct!
Okay!
That's
fine!
Well!
This
sounds
like
I
mean
this
literally
sounds
to
me
like
a
good
deal
too
good
to
be
true,
we're
getting
eight
million
dollars
of
property
and
cash
when
all
we're
entitled
is.
3.8
million
am
I
like
missing
anything
there
yeah.
AA
I'm
I'm
very
excited
about
the
outcome
as
well.
It
could
have
been
much
worse
and
the
the
community
expected
a
lot
so
I'm
very
thankful
that
the
Developers
stayed
with
us
and
and
decided
to
continue
to
negotiate
for
something
that
was
much
higher
than
what
would
have
been
and.
C
G
For
a
second
I
think
that
the
four
half
site
will
probably
be
land
bank
for
some
period
of
time
undetermined
because
there
are
some
other
things
in
in
Boulder
housing,
Partners
q.
But
it
will
in
fact
be
affordable
housing
when
they're
done
with
it.
B
There's
a
big
round
of
applause
for
sure
and
and
I'll
just
add
as
well.
You
know
Kurt
another
big.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
over
the
years
community
members
have
asked
me
about
this
topic.
You
know
Bob
and
I
were
on
the
council
when
this
was
approved
originally
311
Mapleton,
and
that
that
so
many
community
members
have
come
up
to
me
and
said
what
happened
with
311
Mapleton.
Why
aren't
we
getting
the
affordable
housing
that
was
originally
agreed
to
and
for
years?
I
didn't
have
a
great
answer.
B
B
This
is
coming
out
in
just
the
next
few
days
that
we've
arrived
at
a
really
satisfactory
outcome.
So
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
concern
in
the
community
about
this
I
hope
that
folks
feel
much
better
about
the
process.
Now
that
we've
gotten
to
this
much
much
better
outcome.
So
thanks
again
for
your
work
for
that.
Thank
you.
Mark.
G
Yeah
I
also
want
to
give
thanks
to
to
Kurt
I
mean
we
really
created
the
chicken
salad
out
of
something
a
lot
less
tasty
and
I
appreciate
it.
This
is
a
great
outcome,
given
the
the
possibilities.
I
I
do
think.
As
we
move
forward
next
year
into
the
next
Council.
We
ought
to
be
taking
a
look
at
our
processes
on
this,
so
that
we
don't
have
these
excitements.
You
know
when
we
think
something
is
going
to
happen.
We
ought
to
have
it
happen
and
I
know
there.
B
Very
good
not
seeing
any
other
hands
raised.
Kirk
don't
go
too
far.
A
A
A
AC
A
AD
AA
Cart,
you're
right
here,
yeah
so
good
evening,
again,
Council
so
council
member
friend
about
a
week
or
so
ago
sent
a
a
hotline
requesting
an
update
on
an
evaluation
that
we
spoke
about
at
the
retreat,
as
well
as
a
connection
to
looking
at
a
program
of
safe
camping
for
our
city
and
I.
Think
I
did
and
I.
Think
many
of
us
went
back
and
looked
at
the
the
retreat
I
came
out
with
a
lot
of
pointers
of
how
I
can
present
better
next
time.
It's
tough
watching
yourself
talk.
AA
True
for
all
of
us,
but
so
to
answer
your
your
your
question,
Rachel,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
two
things:
one
is
the
evaluation
process.
So
the
the
way
we've
been
looking
at
this
so
at
the
retreat
we
committed
to
having
an
evaluation
of
our
homeless,
Services
System.
AA
Our
system
is
part
of
a
wider
system
under
Homeless
Solutions
for
Boulder
County,
and
so
we've
been
collaborating
with
HSBC,
which
includes
the
county
in
Longmont
to
doing
more
comprehensive
assessment
of
the
whole
system,
particularly
since
we're
we're
more
than
five
years
out
of
when
we
we
started
that
and
our
intent
was
as
we
look
at
that
assessment
and
the
outcomes
it
we're.
Anticipating
that
we'll
highlight
gaps
in
our
system,
things
that
are
going
well
things
that
could
go
better
and
that
would
be
a
good
time
to
look
at
other
programs.
AA
So
the
the
schedule
of
that
and
I
also
noticed
that
that
I
had
an
error
in
one
error
in
the
hotline
that
I
responded
to.
So
the
the
the
request
for
proposal
is
going
out.
This
fall
in
September,
we'll
be
working
with
with
Boulder
County
on
that
they
would
most
likely
be
releasing
that
it
would
be.
AA
We
anticipate
awarding
it
in
December
and
the
work
starting
in
January
the
the
the
errors
that
we
expect,
that
that
that
work
would
actually
be
done
sometime
in
the
spring
completed
in
the
spring
of
next
year,
and
then
the
second
thing
I
wanted
to
sort
of
highlight
and
I
I
and
Rick
Rachel
mentioned
this
at
CAC
on
Monday
as
well.
AA
You
know,
what's
the
progress
that
that
staff
has
made
around
this
particular
issue,
and
while
it
wasn't
one
of
the
10
city
council
priorities,
it
was
certainly
something
that
we
heard
a
lot
about
from
Council
Members.
AA
So
some
of
the
the
things
that
have
occurred
since
then,
we've
we've
worked
with
three
different
communities
who
have
these
programs?
One
is
in
Madison
Wisconsin,
Louisville,
Kentucky
and
Portland
Oregon,
and
we've
done
reviews
of
those
programs
with
those
three
cities.
We've
also
met
with
when
I
say
we
I
mean
the
staff
who
do
this
great
work
meet
with
the
met
with
the
Colorado
Village
collaborative,
looked
at
their
budgets,
their
policies
and
and
that
sort
of
thing,
and
then
we've.
We
also
looked
at
the
I
believe
it
was
in
2016.
AA
The
council
put
together
a
list
of
sites
when
it
was
being
spoken
about
then
city-owned
sites
that
that
could
be
looked
at
for
this
particular
use.
So
we've
taken
that
and
we've
looked
at
sort
of
the
zoning
implications
of
of
each
of
those
sites
and,
lastly,
we've
prepared
a
proposed
evaluation
criteria
of
sites
if
we
were
to
go
down
that
road.
H
Sure,
thanks
for
that
Kurt,
so
just
for
a
little
bit
of
history
for
I
doubt
many
people
watched
our
retreat,
but
my
memory
of
the
retreat
was
that
we
asked
at
the
outset
for
things
that
we,
you
know,
because
at
a
midterm
Retreat
you
can
add
things
to
the
work
plan.
That's
like
the
time
and
place
that
you
do
it
that
we
asked
legal.
Like
do
we
vote
on
this
here
or
we
would
we
vote
on
it
later
and
I
think
that
the
advice
that
we
got
on
day-
one
was,
we
can't
add.
H
You
know
we
can't
formerly
vote
here,
so
we
will
have
to
do
that
after
the
retreat
and
so
I
think
I
walked
away
from
the
retreat
thinking.
We
had
added
safe
outdoor
space
to
the
work
plan
and
and
greenlit
a
consultant
I
did
send
a
request
to
CAC
the
weekend
of
the
retreat
and
asked
us
to
make
sure
we
scheduled
that
vote
and
I,
don't
remember
or
know.
H
If
that
happened,
I
will
say
that
I
got
covered
shortly
thereafter
and
my
brain
went
kind
of
you
know
soft
and
muddy
for
a
I,
don't
know
a
month
or
six
weeks.
So
I
don't
remember.
If
we
got
back
to
that
and
there
was
meetings
with
the
county
was
coming
up.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
bring
this
back.
So
we
could
remember
like
what
is
it
that
we
did
green
light?
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
a
NADA.
H
Five
to
you
know
schedule
something
to
be
voted
on
to
add
to
the
work
plan
or
not
tonight,
but
so
I
wanted
to
look
at
that
for
both
of
the
things
I
also
I
thought
that
we
were
saying
that
we
wanted
a
a
consultant
that
would
be
for
the
city,
not
part
of
HSBC
I
think
that
in
some
ways
you
know
we
are
not
fully
100
percent
symbiotic.
You
know
we
we
may
at
times
have
some
conflict
with
the
county,
and
one
of
those
is
like.
H
What's
best
for
the
city
of
Boulder
perspective,
it
doesn't
mean
that
I
don't
think
we
should
be
collaborating,
also
and
and
participating
in
the
HSBC
look,
but
I
also
don't
think
like
at
our
Retreat
that
we
could
say
you
know
show
of
hands
for
who
wants
to
tell
HSBC
what
to
hire
a
consultant.
I
think
we,
my
memories.
We
wanted
that
for
ourselves,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
bring
it
back
and
make
sure
that
we
gave
staff
really
crisp.
H
Direction
I
also
could
have
been
more
concrete
at
the
retreat
in
in
what
I
was
asking
for
and
I
think
we
were
all
sort
of
jumping
between
a
couple,
different
subtopics,
as
well
as
gearing
up
for
the
meeting
with
the
county,
so
it
just
it
all
got
a
little
muddled,
I
think
so.
Maybe
if
I
have
a
request,
procedurally
is
do
we
need
to
do
a
not
a
five
to
clarify
what
we
greenlit
at
The
Retreat
did
we
did
we
adequately
vote
on
adding
this
to
the
work
plan.
N
I'm
happy
to
respond.
I
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
it's
always
nice
to
go
back
and
look
at
meetings
where
there
is
a
lot
of
time,
and
if
you
know
me
at
all,
I
go
one
by
one.
This
person
said
this.
This
person
said
that
and
want
to
say
that
a
it
was
an
incredibly
deep
conversation.
I
thought
it
was
really
fruitful.
N
There
were
a
lot
of
conversations
about
what
direction
we
should
go
to
and
as
Kurt
brought
up
the
conversation
about
the
initial
consultant,
I
think
that
conversation
started
taking
root
about.
We
should
we
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
a
consultant,
and
it's
maybe
a
good
idea
to
have
that
joint
or
it's
a
good
idea
to
do
that
independently,
but
it
was
not
as
crisp
and
the
other
thing
and
I
think
you
mentioned
this
council
member
friend
is
that
there
was
because
the
conversation
with
the
county
was
coming
up.
N
There
was
a
lot
of
I
think
we
need
to
have
this
conversation
with
the
county
and
really
be
crisp
with
them.
There
was
also
conversation
about.
Should
we
hire
a
national
expert?
Should
we
hire
local
experts
and
whether
or
not
this
conversation
is
too
premature
to
have
yet
until
we
have
a
conversation
with
the
county?
So
so
all
of
that
to
say
is
that
I
don't
think
we
greenlit
anything
at
that
meeting.
N
I
think
that
it
was
an
expectation
that
maybe
we
would
get
more
clarity
after
the
meeting
with
the
Commissioners,
and
having
said
that,
if
this
is
something
that
Council
wants
to
bring
forward,
it
would
be
a
nod
to
add
to
the
work
plan.
Staff
would
have
to
then
scope
that
out
within
their
current
capacity
constraints,
and
we
would
get
back
to
you.
A
P
We'll
appreciate
the
update
on
that
Kurt.
You
know.
One
thing
that
was
evident.
Having
looked
back
was
urgency
on
these
issues.
Right
I.
P
Think:
that's
why
we
sort
of
refocused
that
mid-year
Retreat
to
focus
a
lot
on
homelessness
because
of
that
urgency,
and
so
I
I'm
a
little
and
certainly
that
meeting
we
have
the
County
Commissioners
expressed
our
general
place
with
that,
but
but
relying
on
that
to
be
our
vehicle
for
our
local
success,
I'm
not
sure
was
where
we
wanted
to
go
so
I'm
kind
of
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
to
some
extent
we
got
to
keep
our
cards
with
us
to
some
extent
on
some
of
these
things
that
are
within
our
purview
to
do
and
when
there's
urgency,
sometimes
bringing
in
too
many
collaborators
retards
that
urgency
or
the
efficacy
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
so
I
I'm
I'm
hopeful.
P
We
can
figure
out
how
we
maybe
siphon
away
what
that
was.
Maybe
if
they
still
want
to
pursue
that
great
but
but
we've
got
needs
here
that
need
to
be
met
and
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
to
wait
on
study
I
mean
we
have
a
I,
think
staff
did
a
study
on
sanctioned
camping
and
not
too
long
after
covet
began.
So
so
we
have
resources.
P
N
And
I
appreciate
that
council,
member
and
I
guess
maybe
what
we're
saying
is
we
we
would
like
your
direction.
We
did
not
get
a
vote.
We
did
not
see
consensus.
We
would
need
to
see
a
consensus
of
where
you
would
like
to
vote.
Would
you
like
us
to
consider
sanctioned
encampment
sites?
Would
you
like
us
to
consider
a
broader
array?
What
is
it
that
you
would
like
us
to
do
so
we
can
move
forward.
Can.
B
Question
if
I,
if
I,
might
because
I
referenced
earlier
in
the.
U
P
A
AA
Yeah,
it's
actually
it's
actually
an
update
on
homelessness,
and
so
we've
started
a
number
of
new
programs
this
year
as
well.
It
will
be
an
update
in
all
the
new
programs,
an
update
on
the
day
service
center.
Everything-
that's
happened,
you
know,
since
the
retreat-
and
so
it's
it's
going
to
be
a
pretty
comprehensive
presentation
and
discussion.
B
H
One
clarifying
question
my
my
memory
of
the
retreat
is
that
we
we
asked
if
there
was
staff
capacity
for
looking
at
SOS,
and
we
were
told
that
there
is
and
so
that
we
we
were
gonna
not
kind
of
pump
that
over
to
the
consultant,
because
there
was
staff
capacity,
so
I'm
confused
by
the
scoping
of
it.
Now,
especially
if
we've
been
doing
work
on
it,
which
and
I
don't
think
we
would
have
focused
so
hard
on
it
at
the
mid
at
the
midterm
Retreat.
If
we
hadn't
thought
we
were
acting
on
it
during
this
Council.
U
H
N
I
appreciate
that
and
I'll
defer
to
kurd
I
mean
I
I.
Think
what
I
I,
don't
think
I
recall,
seeing
as
we
reviewed
the
recording
is
that
Kurt
was
very
specific
about
not
necessarily
being
able
to
do
a.
N
Staff
time
until
we
move
forward
with
the
day,
Services
Center,
that
conversation
got
a
little
skewed
as
we
talked
about
the
possibility
of
a
consultant
that
did
get
a
little
muddled
on
on
what
was
happening
and
to
capacity
I
would
defer
to
Kurt
and
his
team
on
what
they
could
do
or
whatnot.
Knowing
that
this
was
a
discussion
that
we
had,
and
there
was
interest
I,
actually
appreciate
that
they
have
done
some
work
on
this
Arena.
AA
Yeah
so
we've
we
weren't,
anticipating
doing
a
full
update
on
safe
camping
at
at
the
September
meeting.
We
could.
We
could
introduce
information
on
that,
basically,
based
on
the
work
that
we've
done
over
the
last
few
months,
we
have
been
focusing
on
the
basically
the
four
new
programs
that
have
been
you
know
initiated
this
year.
One
is
which
is
in
process,
which
is
probably
about
two
or
three
more
programs
that
we
typically
do
in
a
year.
AA
It's
been
a
very
full
year,
so
our
intent
was,
after
the
day
service
center
was
further
along
to
be
able
to
focus
on
this
I.
Don't
think
that
prevents
us,
however,
from
focusing
a
part
of
the
memo
on
this,
and
we
certainly
can
make
that
part
of
the
conversation.
W
Things
and
one
of
the
other
things
I
think
I'd
mentioned
this
at
The
Retreat
as
well,
is
that
we've
had
some
opportunities
where
folks
have
given
us
some
feedback
in
the
past
few
years.
So
I
think
it
was
2022,
maybe
some
or
sorry
summer
of
2020,
where
have
an
HRC
kind
of
did
a
joint
group
to
issue
some
recommendations.
W
AA
E
Piling
the
work
right
here
for
you:
can
you
also
add
to
that
different
types
of
safe
outdoor
spaces,
particularly
like
palette
that
type
thing,
and
also,
whether
or
not
we
could
add
wraparound
services
to
those
options
for
safe
outdoor
spaces,
so
in
other
words,
not
just
the
safe
outdoor
space,
but
also
with
wraparound
services?
W
I
think
that
the
white
paper
that
happened
HRC
did
on
if
I'm
remembering
correctly
on
Tiny
home
kinds
of
things
like
I,
think
the
2023
language
would
be
micro
communities
but
I
think
that
they
they
did
get
to
some
of
that
so
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
think
about
you
know
how
can
we
use
stuff?
That's
already
out
there
to
yeah
yeah.
AA
In
fairness,
I
think
the
that
white
paper
was
a
summary
I
think
it
was
about
a
page
and
a
half
long
or
two
pages
long,
and
so
it
doesn't
provide
like
budget
information.
It
provides
ideas,
but
we
can
I
think
most
of
these
safe
outdoor
spaces
do
have
a
component
of
of
services.
The
fact
that
they
all
do
we
can.
We
can
certainly
include
what
that
looks
like
and
yeah
so
I'll.
B
Stop
there:
okay,
thanks
for
that,
Kurt
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
if
I,
just
on
a
process,
note
here
that
we
didn't
tee
this
up
as
a
time
when
we
were
giving
a
knot
of
five
or
giving
any
direction
or
making
a
decision,
so
I
I
think
it's
really
helpful
to
give
some,
hopefully
some
direction
about
what
we
get
at
that
September
20th
this
study
session,
but
Rachel.
B
A
B
N
I
appreciate
that
I
I
appreciate
there
has
been
a
gap.
I
I
really
encourage
everyone
to
look
back
at
that
Retreat
and
the
conversation
that
ensued.
N
B
H
N
Communities,
pallet,
shelters
and
certainly
some
camping,
and
so
there
is
an
expectation
that
we
include
some
of
that
at
that
meeting.
If
there
is
a
desire
to
have
a
more
definitive
Direction
and
instruction,
then
certainly
we
can
take
that
up
at
CAC
and
figure
out
how
to
schedule
it
meetings
are
full.
P
I
know
our
stuff's
full,
but
that
point
in
time
count
was
Beyond,
sobering.
P
I
think
we
all
anecdotally
knew
where
it
was
headed
and
then
to
sort
of
have
that
hit
like
a
two
by
four
kind
of
hit.
You
of
that's
where
we're
at
on
numbers,
so
there's
there's
a
sobering
urgency.
So,
however,
we
can
wedge
it
in,
even
if
it's
just
a
little
bit
in
the
front
end
of
a
on
a
special
meeting
from
a
study
session.
P
I
just
it'd
be
hard
for
us
to
get
through
this
year
this
winter,
without
some
clarity
on
where
we're
going,
because
that
study
session
still
won't
give
us
some
concrete
and
it'll
still
roll
well
into
2024..
So
I
don't
know,
that's
that!
That's
just
sort
of
my
my
frustration,
but
it's
where
we
are.
B
So
I
guess
I'd
maybe
look
to
council
to.
If
is
this
something
that
we
would
like
to
have
for
a
scheduling
item
before
the
September
28th
study
session.
C
B
H
H
B
H
I
don't
know,
I
feel
like
I
sat
out
there
and
watched
watched.
You
all
have
a
notify
like
do.
We
want
to
add
an
assault,
weapons
ban
and
it
was
like
midnight
and
the
hands
went
up.
So
there
was
not
a
robust
discussion
of
the
assault
weapons
ban
that
night
it
was
just
like
notify.
Were
we
adding
that
so
I
I
do
think
that
we,
we
can
say
formalizing.
We
asked
staff
to
work
on
the
same.
You
know
safe
outdoor
spaces,.
K
W
H
Think
I
think
both
of
them
would
need
to
be.
You
know
better
understood
because
I
think
there's
a
question
of
did
women
a
consultant
in
conjunction
because
there
was
a
difference
of
opinion.
I
think
at
The
Retreat
like
is
that
a
consultant
that's
for
the
city
or
for
working
with
HSBC,
so
I
I
don't
know
how
colleagues
feel
about
that.
I
think
that
it
was
a
little
bit
more
I
thought
that
we
got
to
like.
H
We
would
like
staff
to
work
on
SOS,
because
I
thought
there
was
staff
capacity
for
that
coming
in
like
April
and
then
April
got.
You
know,
punted
to
August
and
I,
understand
that,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
formalized
that
and
I
think
that
was
was
due
to
we
were
told
at
the
beginning
of
the
treat.
We
can't
do
a
not
a
five
here
at
the
retreat
and
so
then
I
just
don't
think
we
ever
went
back
and
and
had
had
a
anything
on
consent.
Saying
here's
what
we
voted
on
or
here's.
N
A
N
Was
just
going
to
say
that
certainly
you
can
do
a
not
of
five
tonight
if
that
is
the
will
of
counsel
to
add
this
to
our
work
plan,
if
you
choose
and
then
we
would
scope
whatever
that
looked
like
and
come
back
with
timelines
for
you,
but
I
think
the
question
you're
asking
is
whether
there
is
Will
of
counsel
to
add
safe
outdoor
spaces
to
the
work
plan,
and
that
is
I.
Guess
what
we're
waiting
to
hear
and.
H
H
We
didn't
want
to
punt
that
to
the
whoever
the
consultant
was
going
to
be,
that
is
still
I.
Think
ill-defined,
but
I
do
think
there
was
consensus
like
I,
remember,
going
down
the
the
line,
and
you
know
Tara
had
some
specific
questions
and
you
know
about.
Would
we
be
looking
at
the
pallet
homes
and
you
know
I
think
there
was
discussion
about
I,
don't
know.
B
N
AA
So
if
I
could
just
give
a
little
feedback
that,
hopefully
will
be
helpful,
so
I
I
also
recall
several
conversations
along
the
way
that
we
were
going
to
focus.
The
big
project
for
this
year
really
was
the
day
service
center
and
we
would
have
capacity
after
getting
that
up.
AA
I
think
we
were
clear
also
that
it
was
a
little
bit
of
an
undefined
schedule,
because
there
are
so
many
unknowns
to
that
to
that
initiative,
and
so
our
our
plan
was
I
think
we
heard
certainly
majority
of
council
members
that
wanted
us
to
look
at
that
and
that's
why
we
have
made
some
progress
when
we've
been
able
to
around
that,
so
our
Focus
has
been
to
get
the
day
Center
open
and
then,
if
council's
still
agreeable
to
that
to
shift
in
that
direction.
AA
The
other
thing
that
I'll
add
is
the
the
RFP
is,
is
being
sort
of
put
together
at
this
time
over
the
next
month
and
with
the
I'm
sorry
for
the
with
the
consultant
and
Rachel
and
I
spoke
a
couple
days
ago
about
this.
We
can
also,
if,
if
we
got
a
bit
of
guidance
tonight,
we
could
create
an
aspect
of
that
RFP
that
can
almost
be
bid.
You
know
separately
so
either
a
separate
consultant
could
focus
just
on
that
component
of
work
or
it
could
be
combined.
AA
You
know
with
one
RFP,
depending
on
how
the
Consultants
would
sort
of
bid
on
it.
B
So
it
was
like
a
concrete
next
step.
It
does.
B
So
would
people
be
comfortable
with
me
asking
whether
there's
a
not
a
five
for
this
RFP
to
include
a
scope
of
services
to
examine
safe
outdoor
spaces,
as
well
as
the
current
scope.
H
I
mean
could
include
safe
outdoor
spaces,
but
I
think
what
Kurt
and
I
were
talking
about
was
like
a
separate
analysis
of
of
the
Homeless
Solutions
and
gaps
from
City
of
Boulders
perspective,
so
not
just
SOS,
but
like
what,
as
opposed
to
just
getting
one
report,
that
that
is
what
is
HSBC
going
to
do.
Have
as
a
sub
component
of
that
RFP
and
correct
me.
If
you're
thinking
of
a
different,
you
know
establishing
tonight,
miscommunications
quite
easy,
but
that
we
would
get
a
sort
of
a
1B
portion
of
the
contract.
H
It
it
could
include
at
The,
Retreat
I,
think
we
said
we
don't
want
to
hold
up
SOS
waiting
for
a
consultant's
report
like
I
I.
Think
that
was
part
of
what
the
majority
at
The
Retreat
set
is
like
yeah
that
that's
great.
They
can
advise
us
on
that,
but
if
we
can
do
it
faster,
we
don't
want
to
wait
on
that.
B
So
but
Rachel
in
terms
of
what
I'm
asking
for
then
is
to
add
to
the
RFP
examination
of
the
specific
gaps
and
needs
in
the
boulder
homeless,
services
and
solutions.
Is
that
what
you're
talking
about
yeah
city
of
Boulder?
Does
that
get
to
what
you're
thinking
Kurt.
B
AA
I
I
would
say
that
about
75
of
the
homeless
exits
in
our
County
come
through
the
city
of
Boulder.
Yes,.
AA
And
so
looking
at
the
whole
system
is,
is
going
to
give
clear
information
on
potential
gaps
in
how
we
work
within
our
city.
What
I
was
describing?
What
I
thought
we
talked
about
was
ensuring
that
there
was
a
component
that
also
focused
on
you
know,
providing
further
information
on
other
cities
and
how
that
could
work
in
Boulder
to
have
safe
outdoor
spaces.
C
AA
C
Okay,
so
what
if
there
was
instruction
from
Council
to
modify
the
RFP
tonight,
which
sounds
like
something
you're
willing
to
do?
This
is
when
we
say
we're
using
the
word
adding
to
the
work
plan,
but
we
don't
really
mean
adding
to
the
work
line.
We
need
adding
to
your
work
plan,
but
we're
we're
not
making
a
decision
with
respect
to
Safe
outdoor
spaces.
We
don't
even
know
what
the
options
are
with
respect
to
Safe
outdoor
spaces.
C
B
H
It's
certainly
not
what
I
was
asking
for.
I
think
that
we
having
something
that's
independent
from
the
county
and
our
own
analysis
would
be
helpful.
B
So
I'm
going
to
take
a
crack
at
something
which
is
to
potentially
that
we
could
give
direction
that
the
RFP
be
modified,
such
that
it
would
include
an
examination
of
safe
outdoor
spaces
and
other
micro
Community
Options
for
the
city
of
Boulder,
while
also
as
part
of
the
larger
evaluation,
specifically
examining
the
unique
situation
of
the
city
as
part
of
that
larger
system
and
where
we
might
need
some
unique
approaches.
H
AA
A
Z
AJ
AA
Yes,
so
the
committee.
AA
So
I
I
think
the
challenge
is
that
what
we
do
in
the
city
is
part
of
a
bigger
system,
so
I
I
do
believe
I
mean
we
can
introduce
the
language
I
think
as
you've
described,
Aaron
I
think
it's
going
to
come
out
one
way
or
another
I'm
not
concerned
about
us
not
having
the
evaluation
reflect
on
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
city,
so
I'm
happy
to
accept
that
language
I
think
it
will
work
within
this.
AA
If,
however,
if
we
want
a
separate
RFP
to
do
an
evaluation
of
the
system
in
Boulder
and
look
at
safe
outdoor,
camping
separately
or
other
options,
we
need
to
hire
our
own
consultant
and
not
collaborate
with
HSBC.
We
have
a
budget
for
evaluation.
It
would
take
us
I.
Think
a
second
budget
or
we
say
we're
just
not
participating
in
the
HSBC
evaluation.
W
In
my
mind,
the
idea
of
having
a
consultant
to
kind
of
look
at
this
is
really
about
giving
them
the
freedom
to
kind
of
explore
holistically.
What's
going
on,
what
are
we
doing
here
in
the
city
and
so
I
like
the
idea
of
leaving
the
consultant
open
that
way,
but
I
think
one
of
the
really
critical
questions
that
I'm
hearing
from
some
of
my
colleagues
is
really
around.
A
W
You
know
we
are
a
part
of
the
system.
There
are
clearly
things
that
are
missing
within
the
system.
There
are
probably
things
that
are
working
well
and
what
is
our
component
of
that,
and,
and
that
to
me,
feels
like
an
interesting
kind
of
sub
question
to
explore
in
this
bigger
system
that
is
being
thought
about.
Potentially,
you
know
revamped
with
new
recommendations.
What's
our
unique
component
in
there
and
I,
don't
know
if
that
kind
of.
W
Sorry,
I,
just
I
just
had
one
one
more
thing,
because
I
think
for
me
this
issue
of
the
safe
outdoor
spaces
micro
communities,
whatever
we
want
to
call
them
that
really
ties
into
the
day
Center
as
well,
and
so
for
me
that
discussion,
like
I
I,
would
love
to
know
where
things
are
at,
because
my
biggest
concern
frankly,
is
this
winter
and
what's
coming,
and
if
you
know
we
don't
have
a
space
for
people
to
be
like
in
an
emergency
shelter
kind
of
situation
when
it
gets
cold
and
all
of
that
do
we
need
to
be
exploring
some
different
options,
and
so
for
me
that
that
is
part
of
a
sort
of
holistic
conversation
and
I'm,
not
sure
where
exactly
that
fits
in,
but
I
think
one
one
thing
that
I
would
what
piece
of
information
I
would
like
to
have
is
if
it
looks
like
we
may
not
have
a
day,
Center
up
and
running
by
the
time
the
cold
weather
hits.
W
U
U
W
AA
I
think
we'll
certainly
have
a
more
defined
schedule
prior
to
September
at
the
end
of
September,
yes
and
and
we'll
be
able
to
sell
I'm
sorry
communicate
that
publicly
through
hotline
as
well.
B
Great
Point
Nicole,
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
I
put
out
some
proposed
direction
to
shape
this
RFP
and
so
I
just
want
to
see.
If
Council
has
interest
in
that
direction
and
giving
that
direction.
I
guess
I'll
I'll
ask
for
for
nods.
Are
people
interested
in
adding
that
into
the
RFP
direction
that.
H
AA
Think
we
can
do
it
through
the
county.
I
think
we
can
use
use
the
this
proposal
to
identify
the
components
that
are,
you
know
related
to
the
the
city
work
and
if,
if
that
changes
through
our
conversation
with
with
HSBC,
though
at
our
next
meeting
I
can
let
Council
know
of
any
concerns
that
might
come
up.
H
So
I
would
just
add
from
and
Kurt
and
I
talked
about
this.
H
AD
H
World
you
cannot
represent
a
husband
and
wife
in
a
divorce
like
you
know,
if
there's
a
conflict
there
you,
you
really,
you
know
if
it's
a
not
an
amicable
separation,
you
don't
represent
both
parties.
So
I
would
want
to
understand
that,
like
whatever
the
subcontract
is
we're
really
getting
non-conflicted
information
about
like
what
what
the
gaps
are
that
affect
the
city
of
Boulder.
That
might
be,
you
know,
maybe
adversarial
with
the
county,
so
it
I
think
part
of
that
has
to
be
like
the
duty
would
run
to
the
city
of
Boulder
in
that
subcontract.
AA
H
B
B
It
is
because
I'm
still
a
little
unclear
okay,
so
let's
I'll
see
if
I
can
get
it
right,
the
second
time,
but
the
give
direction
to
to
add
to
the
RFP
and
evaluation
of
safe
outdoor
spaces
and
other
micro
communities
that
could
be
utilized
and
also
to
look
at
the
unique
circumstances
and
needs
of
Boulder
as
part
of
our
homeless
strategies
and
solutions.
W
To
me,
those
were
two
kind
of
separate
things:
I
think
what
I
was
just
looking
for
was
like
a
holistic
view
of,
what's
Boulder's
unique
role
in
all
of
this,
with
a
discussion
of
some
of
the
safe
outdoor
spaces
coming
up
in
anticipation
of
winter,
when
we
get
an
update
on
what's
going
on
with
the
day
Center,
so.
B
I
think,
can
we
split
those
how
about
how
about
I
switch
the
order
that
might
do
it?
So
if
we
say
that
you
know
examine
Boulder's,
unique
situation,
needs
and
gaps
with
respect
to
homeless
services
and
solutions,
and
as
part
of
that,
look
evaluate
the
potential
for
safe
outdoor
spaces
and
micro
communities,
and
this
is
just
about
the
RFP
we
can
talk
about.
There
are
other
things
going
on
too.
H
I
I
would
hope
that
the
county
or
the
HSBC
also
will
be
looking
at
SOS,
but
I
I'm
gonna
semi-reluctantly
vote
for
this
because
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
get
something
better.
During
my
tenure
on
Council
it's
you
know.
It's
been
five
to
six
months
since
the
retreat
and-
and
we
didn't
I
thought
we
were
getting
a
consultant
like
right
after
the
retreat
so
I'm
in
about
yes
in
in
hopes
that
this
moves
forward.
That
said,
I
think.
A
H
B
H
Well,
just
the
the
second
part,
I
think
of
the
retreat
discussion
was
moving
staff
moving
forward
aside
from
a
consultant
with
possibly
prepping
SOS
I
think
in
anticipation
of
this
year.
Yet-
and
so
you
know,
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
get
an
update
in
September,
but
I
sounds
like
we
need
a
more
crisp
request
from
staff
to.
Let
us
know
what
a
work
plan
trade-off
is
in
a
timeline
is
so
my
my
request
would
just
be
some
sort
of
indication
of
do.
H
We
want
to
schedule
that
for
next
week
or
the
week
after
or
as
soon
as
we
can
to
get
an
understanding
of,
did
we
add
that
to
the
work
plan
at
The
Retreat
or
are
we
adding
it
now
and
what
the
trade-offs
are.
AD
A
N
Yeah
I
I'm
not
quite
sure
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
clarity
from
what
happened
at
the
midterm
check-in
and
I
appreciate
that
and
if
others
viewed
it
differently,
I'm
happy
to
re-look
at
that.
What
I
think
would
be
helpful,
actually
is
just
to
move
forward
and
what
I'm
hearing
is?
Can
you
bring
sooner
what
what
would
it
take?
N
N
I,
don't
know
if
Kirk
can
commit
right
now
to
I
can
have
that
ready
in
two
weeks
right
or
or
what
that
looks
like,
but
I
hear
the
commitment
or
the
ask
is:
can
we
bring
that
sooner
than
September
at
the
end
of
September,
so
that
then
Council
can
take
a
a
final
vote
or
a
direction
on?
Yes,
we
think
that's
worth
it
and
we
want
to
add
it
to
the
work
plan.
AA
N
I
believe
Kurt
that
there
is
a
there
is
a
desire
to
inquire
whether
or
not
what
it
would
take
to
put
safe
outdoor
spaces.
However,
that
may
be
defined
right.
That
could
be
micro
communities
that
could
be
camps,
what
it
would
take
to
what
it
would
look
like
to
have
that
on
our
work
plan
and
if
they,
if
there
was
a
yes
right
and
so
that's
the
question,
sure.
B
W
Can
I
just
just
ask
for
kind
of
a
specific
thing
there
too,
so
I
know
you're
coming
to
us
to
talk
about
four
different
things
that
have
been
started
this
year.
I
think
one
of
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
interesting
to
know
is
especially:
how
does
it
impact
on
those
four
things
so.
H
H
Okay
can
I
just
request
that
that
IP
get
hotlined,
so
any
community
members
who
are
watching
can
easily
find
that
and-
and
it
will
sometimes
I-
sometimes
let's
say
I
didn't
read
the
packet
till
today.
I
might
not
get
all
the
way
to
the
IP,
and
so
like
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
flagged
would
be
helpful.
I.
N
B
We'll
work
it
out,
Kurt
you've
been
very
patient.
Thank
you
for
working
all
this
through
with
us.
Thank
you,
I
think
we're
set
for
now
and
with
that
any
final
thoughts
we're
we're
going
to
give
Tara
a
birthday
present
of
ending
before
10
pm.
It's
at
9,
30..
I'll
gavel
is
closed.