►
From YouTube: Boulder City Council Meeting 9-28-23
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
B
C
Moment
it,
it
occurs
to
me
that
if
well
we
haven't
adjourned
or
taken
a
recess.
You
certainly
could
take
a
recess
if
you
wanted
to
there's
nothing
that
prohibits
humor,
mirth
and
mart
at
any
time
during
the
council
meeting.
G
G
G
A
G
G
G
We
want
them
to
have
a
good
impression
of
the
court
process,
and
that
starts
with
the
people
that
they
interact
with
up
front
and
it
continues
when
they
come
to
see
me
and
and
the
goals
here
are
multiple,
but
we
do
want
them
to
feel.
Like
they've
been
heard
that
they've
had
a
a
fair
and
efficient
process
and
that
when
they
leave
the
court
they
feel
like
the
process
worked
efficiently
for
all
concerns.
So
that's
our
our
perspective
on
this.
G
The
other
thing
that
we
try
to
approach
as
a
a
court
is
to
be
a
problemsolving
court.
Unlike
the
federal
government
or
the
state
court
system,
a
municipal
court
has
the
opportunity
to
interact
in
a
way
where
we
tailor
our
responses
to
community
problems
in
a
way
that
helps
solve
those
problems
and
that's
not
always
available
in
the
state
or
federal
system.
So
that's
part
and
partial
of
what
we
do
next
slide.
G
Please.
There
have
been
a
number
of
administrative
changes
in
the
court
in
the
last
year,
or
so
in
December
or
November
of
2022
James
Cho,
our
court
administrator
retired
and
as
a
result
of
his
retirement.
G
We
took
the
opportunity
to
make
some
changes
in
the
way
that
we
go
about
our
business,
Pam,
Davis
assistant
city
manager
came
in
and
was
our
court
administrator
for
some
period
of
time
and
she
helped
us
make
some
changes
to
our
court
process
and
the
way
that
we
set
up
our
court
structure
so
that
we'd
be
more
efficient
and
to
give
a
little
more
bread
in
coverage
for
supervisors.
So
that
was
a
great
change
for
our
court.
We
took
that
opportunity
to
move
forward
with
that.
G
The
next
slide
we'll
discuss
that
new
court
structure
I'll
get
to
that
in
a
moment,
but
in
addition
to
the
changes
that
we
had
at
the
administrative
level,
we
also
lost
a
number
of
Staffing
individuals.
A
lot
of
people
had
great
experience
at
the
court.
We
lost
three
or
four
people
in
the
last
18
months
and
we've
been
trying
to
replace
them
ever
since
with
good
quality
people.
G
That's
probably
our
most
crucial
administrative
challenge
going
forward
is
to
good,
have
good,
solid
staff
that
can
support
us
and
then
finally,
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
live
stream
streaming
statute
that
came
out
in
September
of
2023.
That
became
effective
under
state
law
and
it
simply
requires
that
we
live
stream
or
virtual
present
our
proceedings.
G
We
do
now
live
stream
and
we
have
a
a
YouTube
channel
for
everybody
who
wants
to
watch
Court,
who
aren't
participants
in
the
court
system
and
that's
been
effective
since
September
1st,
we
have
a
link
to
that
on
our
web
page
next
slide,
please
Emily.
Thank
you.
This
is
an
example
of
our
court
structure
and,
as
you
can
see,
in
that
middle
area,
you've
got
the
court
specialist
and
supervisor
positions
the
that
are
in
the
middle,
the
P
probation
officer,
supervisor
position
and
then
the
data
specialist.
G
G
Next
slide,
please,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
do
approach
all
of
the
problems
that
the
community
faces
with
a
problem
of
solving
approach,
method
and
that's
something
that
we
take
very
serious
ly.
The
next
slide,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
in
the
fall,
this
is
an
area
where
we
do
have
a
problem,
solving
approach
with
our
quality
of
life
violations,
as
you
might
know
that
we
have
a
large
number
of
students
that
come
into
the
university
and
some
who
come
onto
the
into
the
community
as
residents.
G
For
the
first
time
most
of
these
young
people,
College
age
people
haven't
had
any
experience
living
on
their
own,
and
so
they
might
commit
quality
of
life.
Violations
like
nuisance
party,
noise,
disturbances,
MIP
alcohol,
MIP,
marijuana
charges,
and
so
we
take
the
the
approach
of
trying
to
solve
the
problems
that
are
created
by
those
and
try
to
teach
these
students,
and
so
the
the
Cornerstone
for
this
is
to
number
one
make
sure
that
we
get
these
students
in
to
see
us
in
a
short
period
of
time.
G
We
have
a
what
we
call
a
FastTrack
process
and
within
seven
to
10
days
of
the
defendant,
getting
a
citation
in
the
fall
they
actually
are
seen
in
court.
If
a
defendant
received
a
petty
or
misdemeanor
offense
from
the
state
court,
they
would
probably
wait
six
to
eight
weeks,
perhaps
even
longer
before
you
going
to
court,
and
they
may
not
even
see
a
judge
for
some
of
those
types
of
violations.
They
might
be
deferred
to
a
diversion
program
without
having
interaction
with
the
judge.
G
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
took
these
cases
on
both
for
MIP
alcohol
type
cases
and
our
quality
of
life
violations.
We
wanted
them
to
be
able
to
see
a
judge
and
to
interact
with
us
in
a
short
period
of
time
and
I
believe,
because
of
that
short
turnaround,
I
think
the
evidence
would
support
this
that
reduces
recidivism,
because
we
get
accountability
much
closer
to
the
date
of
the
violation.
G
If
they're
first-time
offenders,
then
we
try
to
avoid
having
them
leave
the
court
with
the
criminal
record,
but
they
are
required
to
do
quite
a
bit
in
order
to
earn
that
dism
ultimate
dismissal
they're
on
a
program
for
between
six
and
12
months,
depending
on
the
outcome
from
the
prose's
perspective,
that's
necessary,
but
the
typical
conditions
that
are
included
include
the
SE
restorative
justice
program,
Community,
Living
class
and
community
service,
and
the
C
sort
of
Justice
program
is
really
the
the
link
to
all
of
this.
G
We've
worked
with
CU
for
a
number
of
years
to
develop
a
program
that
they
actually
facilitate
to
have
students
learn
about
living
with
their
neighbors
and
getting
some
accountability.
In
connection
with
that,
our
view
and
the
evidence
does
support
this-
that
an
individual
who
who
learns
about
the
behavior
that
they're
causing
harm
with
and
has
the
responsibility
to
repair
that
harm
is
less
likely
to
commit
future
violence.
G
Viations,
and
so
that's
why
we
do
this
program
and
every
year
in
the
fall
right
before
the
fall
season
starts,
I
go
to
a
CU
program
where
it's
designed
to
have
all
of
the
stakeholders
involved,
meet
and
discuss
the
UPC
coming
season.
I
believe
councelor
friend
was
at
the
last
one
there,
and
it
was
a
really
well
attended
group,
and
it
was
impressive
to
me
to
see
all
these
different
groups,
people
with
different
perspective,
sharing
those
perspectives
at
this
meeting.
I
was
also
really
impressed
with
cu.
G
The
Folks
at
CU
have
taken
a
great
deal
of
effort
to
institutionalize
some
of
the
programs
that
have
been
developed
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
the
court
has
worked
with
them
as
part
of
that
process.
A
lot
of
different
folks
work
together
in
collaborative
form
to
create
these
processes
to
develop
a
greater
sense
of
community
and
accountability
and
responsibility
for
these
young
people,
and
we've
experienced
a
great
deal
of
success
in
connection
with
that.
G
We're
really
early
on
in
our
our
season
of
fall
cases
right
now,
but
the
early
ear
returns
suggest
that
we've
seen
a
lot
less
cases
this
year
than
we
saw
last
year
and
that's
been
a
trend
over
the
last
several
years.
I
don't
have
complete
data
yet,
but
I'm
more
than
happy
to
come
back
on
a
later
date
and
share
that
data
with
you.
But
my
understanding
from
what
I've
looked
at
so
far.
G
Is
that
we're
just
not
seeing
as
many
cases
there
could
be
a
lot
of
explanations
for
that
it
could
be
simply
because
officers
aren't
issuing
tickets,
but
I
would
like
to
believe
that
it's
more
likely
because
of
these
efforts
to
avoid
police
contact
in
the
first
place
have
been
very
successful
and
I.
Think
it's
a
good
process
for
us
to
continue
to
engage
in,
so
that
we
can
minimize
the
impact
for
those
folks,
especially
the
folks,
on
the
hill
minimize,
the
impact
that
the
students
have
when
they're
first
coming
into
town.
G
Next
slide,
please,
the
minor
possession
charges,
both
alcohol
and
marijuana
are
also
charges
that
are
part
of
our
FastTrack
program.
They
do
require
a
mandatory
appearance
in
our
court
again
with.
If
they
were
in
the
county
court,
they
might
just
get
a
diversion
program
without
even
seeing
a
judge.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
took
this
program
on
on
is
so
that
there
would
be
interaction
with
the
judge
and
we,
as
a
municipal
court,
have
the
ability
to
tailor
our
sentences
to
the
offender
needs.
G
Some
individuals,
and
probably
a
majority
of
the
individuals
that
we
see
with
these
types
of
first
offenses,
will
come
to
court
and
really
need
just
a
brief
intervention
with
a
judge
and
perhaps
one
class,
a
short
class
where
they
get
educated
about
the
rules
regarding
alcohol
or
marijuana.
But
others
might
need
a
more
in-depth
intervention
and
might
actually
need
treatment
and
we're
looking
to
to
find
out
a
little
bit
about
both.
G
So
we
do
a
surve
at
the
beginning
find
out
a
little
bit
about
them,
and
then
we
go
forward
from
there
with
the
treatment
programs
and
we
collaborate
with
our
CU
Health
promotions.
Folks
in
order
to
secure
the
right
treatment
for
these
people,
and
we
believe
that
it's
important
for
CU
to
be
a
part
of
this
and
they
are
constantly
revising
their
Pro
approach
to
these
firsttime
offenders
and
and
to
those
who
might
need
more
assistance.
G
G
Want
to
turn
now
to
community
safety
and
quality
of
life
in
public
spaces.
There's
been
a
great
deal
of
discussion
over
the
last
few
months
in
our
community
and
among
stakeholders
about
what
we
should
be
doing
about
Community
safety
and
the
quality
of
life
of
for
individuals,
and
my
perspective
is
that
we
want
Community
safety
and
access
to
public
spaces
for
everyone
in
our
community,
and
that
includes
not
only
the
people
who
might
be
unhoused
and
staying
there,
but
also
the
people
who
want
to
access
that.
G
G
So
we
design
our
process
to
try
to
facilitate
that,
and
so,
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
for
the
more
serious
types
of
offenses,
we'll
you'll
see
a
more
traditional
court
process
and
our
goals
as
they've
always
been
to
increase
accountability,
rehabilitate
defendants,
if
possible,
to
improve
safety
and
to
do
it
in
a
humane
way
and
so
for
the
more
serious
offenses,
for
example,
threatening
bodily
injury,
causing
physical
harm
to
another
person
to
disturbances.
G
Things
of
that
nature,
our
prosecutors
utilize,
this
more
traditional
court
process
for
those
offenses
that
are
considered
lower
level
offenses
might
be
camping
or
littering
smoking
in
public.
Something
of
that
nature.
The
prosecutors
will
often
utilize
the
community
court
process
for
those
types
of
offenses.
The
goal
with
either
process
is
the
same,
and
that
is
to
reduce
harm
to
the
community
and
to
do
it
in
a
humane
way.
Next
slide,
please.
So
there
are
traditional
sentencing
options
that
are
available
to
the
court
and
they've
always
been
available
to
the
court.
G
So
what
we
do
is
if
there
are
charges
involving
violence
and
threats
of
violence.
When
someone
does
plead
guilty,
then
we
have
the
ability
to
impose
sentencing,
but
it
doesn't
come
with
that
ability
until
someone
is
found
guilty
or
pleads
guilty
to
a
charge,
but
for
resisting
arrest
obstructing
a
police
officer
involving
violence,
threats
of
violence,
any
of
those
types
of
charges.
G
G
There
are
certainly
times
when
we
have
individuals
who
aren't
able
or
willing
to
participate
in
those
programs,
and
so
we've
got
only
jail
as
an
option,
and
so
sometimes,
although
I
do
not
like
to
impose
jail
sentence,
sometimes
the
only
thing
that
we
can
do
is
impose
jail
as
a
consequence
and
that's
not
only
as
a
consequence,
but
also
to
improve
Community
safety.
The
problem
that
we
face-
and
there
are
there-
are
multiple
problems,
but
one
problem
that
we
face
is:
what
do
we
do
with
offenders
when
they
return
to
the
community?
G
There
are
very
limited
jail
programs
for
individuals
who
are
in
custody
for
a
short
period
of
time
and
when
I'm
talking
about
a
short
period,
I'm
talking
about
less
than
45
days,
and
even
when
you
get
to
90
days,
they're
just
limited
resources
at
the
jail
to
address
mental
health
and
addiction
issues.
And,
as
you
know,
the
cap
on
our
Active
Jail
is
90
days.
G
So
there
is,
there
isn't
a
great
deal
of
opportunity
for
someone
who's
in
custody
on
one
of
our
charges
to
get
a
great
deal
of
assistance,
while
they're
in
custody.
We
working
working
on
that
and
we
certainly
refer
people
to
the
mental
health
counselors
that
are
in
the
jail
and
try
to
get
them
into
programs
if
possible.
G
But
it's
one
of
those
issues
that
we
have
to
to
be
aware
of
thinking
about
the
fact
that
when
they
do
go
to
jail,
even
if
it's
for
a
period
of
time,
they
are
going
to
be
released
from
custody
and
most
of
the
people,
especially
our
unhoused
people,
who
come
out
of
custody.
They
they
come
out
of
custody
and
they're
without
a
home
at
the
time,
and
there
just
are
not
great
resources
available
to
them.
G
They
end
up
back
on
the
streets
and
in
a
situation
where
they're
committing
the
same
types
of
offenses
that
got
them
into
custody
in
the
first
place.
So
it's
a
challenge
for
us,
one
that
we
Embrace,
but
it
is.
It
is
definitely
a
challenge
for
us
to
re,
reduce
this
recidivism.
That
causes
such
great
impact
on
our
entire
Community
next
slide.
G
Please.
There
are
also
some
very
practical
and
legal
limitations
to
what
we
can
and
cannot
do.
You've
probably
heard
this
before,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
reiterate
this.
G
This
important
information,
Bond
reform
that
occurred
beginning
in
2014,
but
all
the
way
through
2022
under
Section
164
113
of
the
state
statute,
creates
the
48
hour
rule,
which
means
that
on
lower
level,
offenses
that
come
in
the
Municipal
Court,
the
offenses
that
are
most
of
the
offenses-
that
we
see
people
who
failed
to
appear
on
not
all
of
the
offenses
that
we
see,
but
most
of
the
ones
who
fail
to
appear
in
our
court
are
lower
level.
Offenses
and
subject
to
this
48
hour.
Rule,
for
example,
smoking
littering
camping,
like
I,
said
earlier.
G
That
means
that
when
they
come
into
custody,
they're
advised
that
they
have
a
right
to
a
personal
recognizance
bond
mean
they
don't
have
to
post
a
cash
Bond
and
they're
told
of
that
when
they
come
in
and
they're
also
advised
of
that
by
their
defense
counsel
and
by
the
judge
when
they
appear
for
their
arraignment
within
that
48
hour
period.
If
they
aren't
seen
within
48
hours,
they
have
to
be
released
on
a
PR
Bond,
but
even
when
they
are
seen,
the
judges
require
to
give
them
a
PR
Bond.
G
If
they
request
that
and
I
can't
stress
that
point
enough,
because
it
really
does
change
the
way
prosecutors
do
business
in
the
way
the
court
does
its
business,
that's
one
point
I
wanted
to
make,
and
the
other
point
I
want
to
point
make
available
to
you
is
this
challenge
that
we're
facing
at
the
Boulder
County
Jail
the
jail
booking
standards
are
very
severe
right
now
and,
and
they
have
been
for
the
past
couple
of
years,
the
the
sheriff
has
had
to
indicate
to
us
at
least
three
different
times
that
they
weren't
able
to
accept
our
defendants
on
Municipal
Court
warrants,
and
it's
not
just
Boulder,
it's
all
Municipal
Court
warrants
and
over
time
they
will
lift
those
restrictions,
but
those
B
jail
booking
standards
really
place
a
limit
on
what
we
can
do.
G
If
someone
fails
to
appear
in
court,
we
can
issue
a
warrant,
but
if
the
jail
won't
accept
them,
that
doesn't
give
us
much
room
to
to
really
get
them
accountable
and
in
in
connection
with
that,
I
want
to
point
out
that
we
do
not
blame
the
jail
for
this.
They
are
overcrowded,
I've,
been
speaking
with
deputies
and
people
over
to
jail
multiple
times
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks,
and
they
just
don't
have
room,
nor
do
they
have
the
Staffing
necessary
to
really
take
care
of
these
individuals
who
are
brought
into
custody.
G
So
we
don't
blame
the
sheriff
for
making
these
tough
decisions,
but
they
do
place
a
significant
limitation
on
what
we're
able
to
do.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
as
a
result
of
this,
we
do
have
a
charge,
driven
prosecution
approach
and
on
the
left
side
of
this
diagram
here,
you've
got
traditional
Court
process
available
for
both
of
those
bars,
the
left
and
the
middle
from
third
degree
assault
all
the
way
down
to
weapons
offenses
any
charge
like
that
is
is
not
part
of
the
community
Court
program.
G
That's
only
part
of
the
traditional
court
process.
The
prosecutors
don't
offer
dismissals
in
connection
with
those
types
of
charges.
They
go
through
the
traditional
process,
we're
still
limited,
but
those
offenses
do
have
a
state
counterpart.
So
it
does
allow
us
if
someone
fails
to
appear
on
those
types
of
charges
to
hold
them
into
custody.
Longer
than
the
48
hours,
if
they've
had
a
failure
to
appear
previously
or
something
of
that
nature,
then
we
can
hold
them
if
they
are
arrested
and
brought
into
custody.
But
again
that
requires
that
the
jail
actually
accept
our
warrant.
G
G
The
prosecutor
and
the
court
have
partnered
together
to
develop
this
community
Court
model
and
that's
the
model
that
a
lot
of
people
have
heard
quite
a
bit
about
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
on
the
right
column
there.
Those
are
the
types
of
charges
that
come
under
the
Community
Court
model,
alcohol
in
public
trespass
at
the
bottom
and
not
all
trespass
charges.
G
Those
are
ones
that
sometimes
are
eligible
for
the
community
Court
model
and
sometimes
not,
depending
on
the
prosecutor's
view
of
the
type
of
trespass
that
it
is,
but
that
Community
Court
model
involves
the
the
prosecutors
seeking
to
engage
individuals,
so
a
defendant
who
is
eligible
for
Community
Court.
If
they
come
to
our
community
court
or
even
if
they
come
to
the
traditional
court
at
6ton
Canyon,
they
may
be
deemed
eligible
for
a
disposition
that
does
not
involve
even
a
guilty
ple.
G
They
might
be
able
to
earn
a
dismissal
of
their
case
by
participating
and
engaging
in
the
process,
and
that
process
primarily
is
designed
to
secure
housing
down
the
road.
But
housing
is
a
long-term
process
for
people
and
it
can
take
many
months
to
to
get
someone
housed,
but
along
the
way
they
also
gain
stability.
Someone
might
get
an
identification,
a
social
security
card,
they
might
even
secure
Social,
Security,
disability
benefits
from
the
state
or
the
federal
government.
G
All
of
that
is
what
our
Navigators
work
with
them
on,
and
so,
if
they're
in
process
with
us
and
they
have
an
alcohol
in
public
charge
or
a
camping
charge
and
they
come
to
community
Court,
they
might
be
able
to
earn
a
dismissal
of
the
charge
if
they
engage
in
the
process
with
The
Navigators.
So
that's
what
our
prosecutors
do
and
I
think
it's
a
a
valuable
process.
G
It
does
not
solve
all
of
the
problems
and
I
want
to
stress
that
for
everyone,
the
problems
associated
with
some
of
our
highest
utilizers
are
not
easily
satisfied
even
by
housing
and
I'll.
Discuss
that
just
in
just
a
few
moments
next
slide,
please.
This
is
a
slide
that
judge
cook
presented
to
you
all
some
time
back,
but
I
want
to
point
out
out
to
you
why
I
brought
it
back
again
because
I
think
it's
really
important
to
to
get
into
the
evidence.
G
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
hotline
about
what
evidence
is
there
to
support
all
of
the
programs
that
we
we
have
here
in
our
court
and
along
with
the
homelessness
folks,
who
will
be
speaking
later
and
I?
Think
that's
an
appropriate
approach,
but
if
you
look
on
the
farle
column,
where
the
978
is
there
in
the
blue,
that
column
represents
just
seven
defendants
over
a
course
of
several
years,
but
seven
defendants
and
the
total
number
of
cases
that
they
secured
prior
to
being
housed
978
cases
at
the
top
sliver.
G
There
is
a
little
red
bar
that
shows
six
cases
that
they've
had
since
being
housed.
Some
of
these
people
have
been
housed
since
2020,
some
as
recently
as
2022,
but
I,
looked
again
at
our
records
just
about
a
week
ago
and
found
that
there
weren't
many
new
cases
for
these
individuals.
It's
probably
maybe
two
or
three
new
cases
that
have
been
issued
to
these
individuals,
this
seven
Group,
which
were
obviously
people
who
were
really
impacting
our
community
prior
to
being
housed,
and
the
same
is
true
AC
cross.
G
976
cases
collectively
is
that
for
that
group
of
14
people
prior
to
being
housed
and
just
six
cases
after
being
housed-
and
there
was
a
question
that
was
asked
by
off
councilor
wallik
in
the
hotline
which
was
addressing
what,
with
the
23
people
that
have
been
housed
this
year
and
it
was
22
before,
but
we
now
have
23
that
have
been
housed
this
year.
They're,
not
part
of
this
statistic,
but
I
did
reach
out
to
neat
and
neat
told
me
that
22
of
those
23
people
are
still
housed.
G
One
has
a
Housing
Voucher
and
neat
is
optimistic
that
that
individual
will
actually
be
housed
again
soon.
So
there
is
a
good
retention.
This
is
for
people
who
have
shown
a
willingness
and
some
who
haven't
shown
a
willingness
to
be
housed,
but
we've
worked
with
them,
and
so
we've
had
some
success
on
both
ends
of
this.
But
I
think
slide
demonstrates
that
that
housing
can
really
reduce
recidivism
and
decrease
the
impact
on
our
community.
G
But
some
of
them
have
anger
control
issues.
It
just
depends
on
the
circumstances,
and
so
the
way
that
we
go
about
this
is
to
really
engage
with
as
a
collaborative
effort
with
everyone.
The
city
attorney's
office
is
in
depthly
involved
with
his
City
manager's
office.
G
I
am
really
inspired
when
I
meet
these
folks
to
find
out
what
they're
willing
to
do
and
how
far
they're
willing
to
do
go
to
get
somebody
housed,
and
so
we
have
to
continue
with
that
effort
to
collaborate.
And
so
that's
why
I've
listed
all
these
folks.
Everybody
is
involved
and
and
in
the
high
utilizer
meetings
that
I
attend.
We've
got
Executives
from
the
District
Attorney's
office
from
the
county
commissioner's
office
will
be
joining
us.
People
from
from
within
the
city,
HHS
is
involved
and
then,
of
course,
our
prosecutors
and
myself.
G
It's
a
group
of
about
15
or
20
people
and
then
there's
an
operations
group
that
has
HHS
people
in
the
on
the
ground,
people
who
are
working
through
this
and
they
share
information
with
the
executive
team.
It's
really
a
great
start.
It
is
not
the
the
ultimate
solution.
None
of
these
things
are
going
to
be
the
ultimate
Solution
on
their
own,
but
I'm
really
pleased
to
to
say
that
there's
been
great
progress
and
I've
been
in
the
Justice
arena
for
20
years.
G
I've
never
seen
the
type
of
collaboration
and
communication
that
goes
on
people
are
utilizing
technology
in
the
team's
channel
to
really
engage
with
each
other.
Keep
track
of
these
individuals
find
out
where
they
might
be
and
really
try
to
promote
these
steps
towards
housing
for
individuals
and
of
course,
if
housing
doesn't
work,
if
we
do
have
an
option
for
someone
to
be
someone
to
be
placed
somewhere,
that's
not
just
a
regular
apartment,
but
actually
to
a
place
like
Fort
lion
or
to
tribe
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
to
do
that.
G
And
then
the
last
course
for
us
is
to
utilize
the
jail
bed
space,
which
we
don't
have
right
now.
But
it
is
another
place
where
we
can
have
individuals
go,
who
aren't
willing
to
do
anything
for
us,
and
it's
a
last
course
for
us,
and
we
have
to
be
really
conscientious
about
using
those
beds,
because
it
does
impact
the
jail
a
great
deal.
But
it
is
a
way
that
we
can
get
somebody
who
isn't
willing
to
comply
and
hold
that
circumstance.
G
Where
we
say
look
if
you're
not
willing
to
comply
you're
not
willing
to
participate,
then
we've
got
a
mechanism
that
we
can
utilize
so
that
we
can
make
sure
you
aren't
causing
harm
to
our
community
and
I've
had
to
do
that.
A
few
times
in
the
last
couple
of
months
impose
longer
sentences,
I
don't
enjoy
doing
it,
but
I
am
finding
that
when
I
have
that
con
consequence
shared
with
an
individual,
it
does
make
them
a
little
more
responsive
to
our
requests
and
we're
going
to
continue
with.
G
That
is
try
to
use
a
little
bit
of
the
carrot
and
the
stick
model
and
get
people
to
do
some
of
the
things
we
need
to
do,
but,
but
also
knowing
that
the
stick
doesn't
usually
work.
Someone
has
to
be
wanting
a
change
in
their
life
to
be
successful,
and
then,
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide
for
me,
all
right
there
are
may
be
some
questions.
G
I
I,
believe
u
councelor,
wallik
I
may
have
addressed
his
I
did
see
a
question
that
was
raised
in
the
hotline
from
councelor
Benjamin,
and
it
was
a
question
about
safe
outdoor
spaces
and
as
how
those
might
U
be
utilized
in
connection
with
our
process
at
the
court.
Can
we
refer
someone
to
a
safe
outdoor
space?
G
If
there
was
a
safe
camping
space
for
someone
to
go
as
part
of
a
sentence,
we
absolutely
have
the
ability
to
do
that
and
that's
something
that
we
could
achieve
once
that
space
is
available,
we're
we're
in
a
position
as
a
municipal
court
because
we're
local.
We
do
have
the
flexibility
to
do
things
that
that
perhaps
the
state
courts
aren't
able
to.
B
H
Thank
you
Rachel,
and
sometimes
when
you're
taking
not
you
paying
too
much
attention
to
the
notes
and
I
may
not
have
heard,
but
something
that
got
me
to
perk
up
was
when
you
talked
about
the
longer
sentences
and
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
because
my
understanding
from
the.
H
Prior
I'd
like
to
hear
more
because
part
of
it
again
as
a
community,
we
want
to
divert
people
to
programs,
so
instead
of
the
more
sentence,
longer
sentences,
so
I'm
wondering
have
you
to
get
them
into
programming.
I,
just
don't
know
how
your
sentence
fit
into
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
so.
I
think
I
wanted
you
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
that.
G
I
appreciate
that
so
I
want
to
make
make
it
clear.
It's
really
really
rare
that
we
impose
a
long
sentence
and
in
fact
most
of
our
defendants
that
we
see
are
getting
a
PR,
Bond
automatically
or
they're
getting
one
from
me.
If
they
see
me
in
custody,
I
never
impose
a
jail
sentence
for
someone
who
comes
to
court.
I
haven't
done
that
in
the
longest
period
of
time.
I
can't
even
remember
the
last
time.
G
I
did
that
the
times
that
it
comes
up
is
where
somebody
has
been
a
repeat
offender,
maybe
six
or
eight
or
10
offenses
in
a
in
a
short
period
of
time
or
and
has
for,
for
example,
one
of
our
defendants
had
115
cases
over
a
course
of
a
several
year
period
and
that
individual
actually
was
given
the
opportunity
to
go
to
a
program
at
Fort
lion,
but
chose
not
to
go
to
that
program.
And
so
the
prosecutor
said
well,
here's
the
option.
G
You
can
do
a
long
jail
sentence
or
you
can
do
the
program
and
we
worked
with
the
defendant.
Our
hot
team
moved
him
twice
to
get
his
dental
records
fixed
up
so
that
he
could
go
to
that
program.
We
gave
him
PR
bonds
when
we
came
back
to
see
him
the
third
time
he
just
didn't
want
to
fulfill
going
out
to
Fort
lion,
and
so
the
prosecutor
said
judge
if
he
pleads
guilty.
I
want
to
Simply,
give
him
a
jail
sentence
and
that
defendant
asked
me.
G
He
said:
look
I
just
want
to
plead
guilty
and
serve
some
jail
and
be
done
with
this
case.
So
that's
when
we
use
it.
I
I
don't
want
people
to
get
the
impression
that
that's
a
regular
tool.
It
is
the
last
line
of
defense
and
it's
really
only
most
of
the
time.
It's
just
part
of
a
plea
offer
where
the
prosecutor
says
offer
one.
Is
this
a
jail
sentence?
Offer
two
is:
do
these
other
things
engage
with
mental
health
partners,
engage
with
neuropa
come
to
our
community
court
with
a
PR
Bond.
G
If
you're
willing
to
do
do
those
things,
then
you
can
earn
dismissal
of
these
cases,
but
there
are
people
out
there
who
will
not
do
that
and
those
are
the
people.
People
who
I
still
feel
it's
appropriate
and
when
I
say
long
jail
sentence,
it
varies
sometimes
a
long
jail
sentence,
in
my
mind,
could
be
10
or
15
days.
That
can
be
a
long
time
for
a
defendant.
90
days
is
the
most
that
we
can
ever
impose.
G
The
challenge
that
we
face
is
that
when
someone
gets
a
less
than
45
day
jail
sentence,
they
aren't
eligible
for
certain
programs
at
the
jail,
so
we're
always
trying
to
figure
out
how
do
we
make
them
eligible
for
some
mental
health
counseling
programs
that
might
be
there?
If
there's
an
addiction
program
that
they
could
start
at
least
while
they're
in
custody,
then
we
might
impose
a
45-day
jail
sentence.
G
I
also
tell
our
public
defenders
that
if,
if
I
do
impose
a
jail
sentence,
if
the
defendant
changes
their
mind
at
any
time,
you
can
file
a
motion
with
me
to
amend
their
sentence.
I
would
much
rather
release
them
from
custody
once
they're
ready
to
commit
to
a
program,
and
so
this
is
really
a
last
course
option.
But
it's
an
intricate
process
and
there's
a
lot
that
we
have
to
think
about
as
we
go
through
it
so
and
if
they
you
have
a
followup
and
then
I'm
happy
to
hear.
H
I,
don't
have
a
followup
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
It's
it's
really
helpful
and
I
understand
some
of
the
challenges
in
dealing
with
the
criminal
justice
system
that
getting
a
longer
sentence
somehow
get
people
Services.
That's
that's
hard
to
hear
right,
but
that's
that's
the
reality
of
a
criminal
justice
system.
It's
it's
not
fair.
It's
not
right.
We
have
to
find
ways
to
change
that
at
the
state
level,
but
that's
what
you
that's
the
tools
that
you
have,
which
is
not
a
fair
tool,
but
thank
you
for
your
explanation.
G
No
I
appreciate
that
comment,
counselor,
and
we
are
working
in
that
executive
group
to
think
about
some
of
those
changes
that
could
be
made
out
there,
particularly
within
the
jail.
If
they
had
more
resource
themselves,
then
they
could
have
more
programs
for
people,
because
my
goal
is
to
if,
while
they're
in
custody,
let's
get
them
ready
when
they
come
out
so
that
they
can
be
really
self-sustaining
and
if
not
self-
sustaining,
they
can
go
to
a
program
like
tribe
or
somewhere
like
that,
where
they
can
achieve
a
better
outcome.
G
I
Thanks
Rachel
thanks,
judge
Khan.
That
was
really
real.
Helpful
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
distinction
or
differences
between
the
the
two
types
of
you
did:
a
good
job
of
kind
of
describing
two
types
of
situations,
one
kind
of
seemed
to
be
focused
on
students
in
in
crimes
that
they
might
commit,
and
then
the
other
was
the
community
cord
is
what
is
there?
What
I
missed
the
name
of
the
of
the
one
that's
kind
of
student
Focus?
Do
you
have
a
name
for
that.
G
It's
we
don't
really
have
a
name
for
it.
We
call
it
our
FastTrack
program
for
the
fall,
and
that's
only
because
we're
trying
to
get
them
in
quicker,
but
it's
it's
always
linked
to
se,
restorative
justice,
so
those
quality
of
life
violations
that
we
see
that
are
committed
by
that
and
it's
not
just
College
age
but
as
a
general
rule,
the
noise
disturbances,
the
nuisance
parties
that
occur
in
the
fall
is,
is
that
group
of
of
college
age
students,
and
so
we
see
them
in
court.
There
isn't
a
name
for
it.
G
It's
just
an
approach
and
it's
a
restorative
justice
approach.
We're
trying
to
have
them
face
the
consequence
of
the
Behavior
in
a
communal,
respect
to
to
develop
a
greater
sense
of
responsibility
in
community
as
community
members,
and
so
that's
why
we
designed
the
prosecutors
play
a
role
in
obviously
offering
the
sentences,
but
we
played
a
role
in
deciding
what
sentences
we
might
impose
and
worked
with
CU
over
years
to
develop.
That.
I
Okay,
that
was
helpful,
so,
let's
just
refer
to
this
restorative
justice-
is
there,
it
sounds
like
there
was
less
restorative
justice
approach
in
the
community
court
is.
Is
that
a
assumption
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
like
getting
ID
cards
and
social
security
cards,
but
how
much
restorative
justice
happens
for
crimes
that
appear
before
you
in
Community
Court.
G
That's
a
really
good
question
and
I
would
say
in
all
caner,
there's,
probably
not
a
great
restorative
justice
component
to
that
when,
when
I
started
as
a
judge,
we
had
community
service
as
an
option
for
people
we
would
generally
with.
If
people
came
to
court,
we
would
order
community
service
and
that's
still
the
case.
If
we
have
a
defendant
with
a
lower
level
offense
who
comes
to
to
the
court
at
Sixth
and
Canyon,
then
we
will
definitely
look
at
more
more
traditional
response,
which
would
include
the
idea
of
of
community
service.
G
It
doesn't
have
that
sense
of
restorative
justice
because
a
lot
of
those
offenses
don't,
but
there
is
a
Comm,
a
component
of
that.
We
will
also
the
prosecutors
look
at
this
and
they
say
well.
This
looks
like
a
good
case
for
mediation
and
we
have
Community
mediation
services
where
an
offender
can
get
with
a
person
who
has
been
harmed
by
the
behavior
and
and
actually
meet
that
person,
and
they
can
work
out
a
restorative
justice
approach
to
that.
G
I
G
It's
the
nature
of
the
offense
now
I
would
say.
Probably
95%
of
those
people
are
unhoused,
but
it
is
the
nature
of
the
offense.
So
somebody
who
perhaps
has
just
gotten
into
housing
or
H,
has
housing
but
has
committed
an
offense
like
a
a
an
open
container
of
alcohol
offense.
They
might
still
be
eligible
for
a
community
Court
response
and
then
the
prosecutor
has
to
decide
what
they
would
want
for
them
to
do
in
order
to
get
their
case
dismissed.
G
Occasionally
they
don't
even
get
their
case,
dismissed,
occasionally,
they're
put
on
a
deferred
prosecution
or
a
deferred
judgment
where
they
have
to
plead
guilty
to
a
charge.
But
generally
the
prosecutors
will
be
looking
that
at
that
on
a
case-by
Case
basis,
but
I
would
say
at
least
90
or
95%
of
the
people
who
are
eligible,
because
the
type
of
offense
that
they're
committing
comes
into
that
lower
level
are
probably
unhoused.
I
G
G
They
might,
although
what's
what
typically
happens,
is
for
anybody
who's
under
21
as
a
student
they're
going
to
be
they're,
going
to
get
an
opportunity
to
have
a
deferred
judgment,
but
and
they
will
from
or
actually
a
deferred
prosecution
when
they
come
to
court
and
they'll
be
expected
to
complete
an
alcohol
class
in
order
to
earn
that
dismissal.
G
So
it's
slightly
different
and
we
found
that
we
want
to
tailor
that
to
that
student
age
population
where
it's
not
necessarily
A
dismissal
for
them
right
off
the
bat,
although
within
a
month
that
case
is
dismissed,
we
want
them
to
take
a
class.
We
want
them
to
interact
with
the
judge.
So
we
take
a
different
approach
with
that
student
age
population.
But
if
a
student
got
an
open
container
of
alcohol
charge
and
they
were
over
21,
for
example,
they
have
the
option
of
coming
to
court.
G
They
also
have
the
option
because
it's
a
lower,
lower
level
offense.
If
there's
the
of
the
officer
can
say
this
is
I'm
going
to
make
this
not
a
mandatory
appearance
and
it's
a
pay
and
close
eligible
charge.
So
somebody
might
be
able
to
pay
$100
fine
and
be
done
with
the
case.
G
Some
will
come
to
court
because
they
want
to
discuss
that
and
they're
concerned
about
a
record
from
completing
guilty
to
anything
and
so
that
they
may
come
to
court
and
then
they'll
work
with
the
prosecutors,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
fall
in
line
with
the
community
Court
model
and
I.
Don't
really
see
the
prosecutors
directing
them
to
okay,
I
want
you
to
get
an
ID,
because
that
really
isn't
what
the
student
needs
so
they're,
not
working
on
stability
factors
with
those
individuals,
they're
working
on
other
factors
with
those
students.
So
it's
not.
I
Okay,
let's,
let's
take
it
out
of
the
let's,
take
the
under
21
off
the
table
because
I
understand
why
you
treat
them
differently,
but
I'm
still
trying
to
understand
the
difference
in
in
in
treatments,
because
there
seems
to
be
some
disparity
here
for
so,
let's
have
Apples
to
Apples
crimes
over
21,
so
we're
not
going
to
make
any
distinctions
there.
So
we
have
three
three
different
people
who
commit
the
exact
same
crime,
one
person's
a
22y
old
student,
one's,
a
42y
old
hous
person
and
one's
a
42y
old
unhoused
person.
I
Will
they
all
end
up
in
the
in
the
same
court
and
and
be
subject
to
the
same
consequences:
community
service,
restorative
judge,
justice
and
all
those
things?
Or
are
you
going
to
make
distinctions
based
upon
whether
they're
a
student,
whether
they're
house,
or
whether
they're
UNH
house,
same
crime.
G
So
I
don't
make
the
distinction,
but
the
prosecutors
would
could
make
that
distinction.
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
to
ask
that
question
because
it
I
think
it
it
it's
possible
that
that
42y
old
person
with
the
open
container
of
alcohol
charge,
who
comes
and
sees
a
prosecutor
they
if
they
appear
in
court,
they're
not
likely
to
appear
at
Community
Court,
because
that
is
where
the
we
that's,
where
the
unhoused
people
go.
They're
going
to
deacons
closet,
a
Trinity
Lutheran,
but
somebody
who
is
housed
is
likely
to
come
to
court
physically
at
6on
Canyon.
G
So
it's
up
to
the
prosecutors
to
decide,
but
I
haven't
broached
that
question
with
our
prosecutor
as
to
whether,
in
fact
he
would
say
okay,
this
person's
42,
if
they,
if
they
would
like
to
do
X
or
Y,
then
I
will
dismiss
the
case
now
that,
having
said
that,
that
doesn't
mean
that
they
won't
dismiss
the
charge
if
it's
a
first
offense
for
somebody,
and
maybe
they
were
walking
out
of
the
stadium
with
a
beer
or
something
like
that,
and
they
have
no
prior
record
I've.
G
Seen
a
prosecutor,
say,
judge
I'm
I'm
going
to
dismiss
this
because
the
person
came
to
court
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
suspend
a
fine
or
to
not
even
impose
a
fine,
but
they
do
have
the
authority
to
put
them
into
the
model.
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
requirement
that
they
be
unhoused.
I
can't
answer
that
because
I
don't
know
what
Chris
Reynolds
and
the
prosecutor's
office
would
say
to
that
and
I
have
I
will
be
honest.
G
G
So,
if
you're
concerned
about
having
the
same
outcome,
they
can
still
make
the
same
outcome
for
people
with
a
deferred
prosecution
where
the
case
just
stays
open,
and
they
could
even
ask
me
to
close
the
case
at
that
at
that
point
or
if
a
person
attends
a
class
I've
seen
them
a
lot
of
times
reset
the
case
and
say
if
you'll
come
back
after
you've
attended
a
level
one
alcohol
class,
for
example,
I'll
dismiss
the
charge
outright,
so
there
can
still
be
the
similar
outcome.
I
I
Sure
sure
it's
kind
of
sounds
like
from
what
judge
Khan
is
describing
is,
is:
is
community
courts,
kind
of
for
House
people
and
and
regular
Courts
for
House
people?
Is
that
a
fair
assessment
or
or
or
can
anybody
same
crime?
Can
anybody
go
to
either
Community
Court
or
regular
Court,
based
on
what
the
prosecutor
determines.
C
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
would
not
I
would
not
distinguish
them
that
way.
Instead,
what
I
would
say
is
there
are
eight
kinds
of
offenses
that
qualify
for
Community
Court,
and
if
someone
has
one
of
those
types
of
off
offenses
they
are,
they
can
participate
in
community
court.
C
I
So
so
how's
the
prosecut
does
the
prosecutor
down
with
the
person
before
they
go
to
court
and
make
a
determination
you're
going
to
go
to
regular
court
and
you're
going
to
go
to
Community
Court.
How
do
they?
How
do
they
make
that
determination.
G
Go
ahead:
judge
Conan
I
can
answer
that
one
when,
when
a
defendant
gets
a
summons,
they
come
to
court
and
then
they're
advised
of
their
rights
and
then
during
my
advisal
I.
Let
them
know
that
they
have
the
option
of
speaking
with
one
of
the
prosecutors.
So
it's
it's
during
the
court
process.
They've
initially
been
advised,
but
then
they
before
they
make
a
decision
on
their
case.
G
Yeah,
that's
happened
fairly
regularly,
actually
where
they
might
be
housed,
but
still
need
some
other
assistance
and
we
have
people
who
we
got
housed
and
then
who
pick
up
another
ticket
of
camping
or
littering
or
something
like
that,
and
as
it
turns
out,
they
they
lost
their
ID.
So
we
no
longer
have
an
ID,
so
the
prosecutors
might
make
that
a
ailable
to
him
to
them.
The
person
who
has
doesn't
have
that
instability,
I
think,
is
what
you
were
designing.
G
The
question
for
is
what,
if
they
don't
have
some
instability
related
to
their
identification
or
benefits
and
things
of
that
nature
are
they
still
eligible
for
a
community?
Court
response
is
that
right.
I
Well,
yeah
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
criteria
the
pro
it
sounds
like.
This
is
not
the
judge's
decision,
the
prosecutor's
decision
so
C
is
it
written
down
someplace
the
prosecutor
says
you
know
we're
going
to
score
you
and
if,
if
you
meet
these
certain
criteria,
you're
going
to
go
to
Community,
Court
and
and
other
criteria
you're
going
to
go
to
regular
Court,
how.
I
C
Community
Court
is
always
an
elective
process
right,
so
no
defendent
is
required
to
participate
in
community
Court.
It
is
my
understanding
that
the
prosecutors
instead
look
to
see
if
the
offense
qualifies
for
Community
Court.
I
To
us,
that
would
be
really
great
if
you
could
get
the
qualifications
to
us.
It
sounds
like
commun
Court's,
an
easier
thing
like
if
I
get
charge
the
crime
I'd
rather
be
in
community
court,
because
all
I
have
to
do
is
got
get
a
Social
Security
card,
I'm,
not
sure
what
I
do
with
the
social
security
card,
but
but
I
guess
I
could
get
one
and
get
off
the
hook
as
opposed
to
regular
Court,
where
I
might
have
to
do
restorative
justice
and
I
face
other
penalties.
So
it
seems
like
Community.
I
Court
is
kind
of
a
softer
thing,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
the
prosecutor
makes
the
decision
who
to
who
to
divert
to
Community
Court
where
it
sounds
like
it's
a
pretty
pushy
thing,
as
opposed
to
regular
Court,
which
is
probably
a
little
bit
more
serious
circumstances,
because
we
got
kids
going
regular,
Court,
fast,
tracking
and
doing
community
service,
and
then
we
we
got
people
going
to
community
Court
who
getting
social
security
cards
for
whatever
reason
and
I
just
would
like
to
understand
how
the
prosecutor
makes
that
determination.
C
I
Can
show
that's
not
the
criteria
you're
talking
about
that's,
not
the
criteria.
We're
talking
about
the
crimes
are
easy
I'm
trying
to
understand
one
one
of
those
eight
crimes
is
committed.
How
does
the
prosecutor
decide
I'm
going
to
send
these
people
to
Community
Court
and
these
people
to
regular
Court.
I
I
To
I
appreciate
that
Rachel,
but
there's
a
lot
of
Community
frustration
about
Community
Court
and
a
lot
of
lack
of
understanding
incling
by
me,
and
so
I
I
really
would
appreciate
it
if,
if
Teresa,
this
is
probably
a
question
for
judge
Khan,
but
Teresa
could
explain
to
the
community
what
Community
Court
is,
who
gets
to
go
there,
how
the
prosecutors
make
decisions
and
how
the?
How
are
the
consequences
different
in
Community
Court
from
regular
court,
because
this
is
a
this-
is
a
very,
very
big
point
of
contention.
I
C
You
know
so
that
is
that's
an
answer
that
should
be
readily
available.
I,
don't
believe
it
requires
a
nod.
No
sorry
just
thinking
out
loud
right,
because
we've
got
one
council
member
requesting
something
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
make
sense,
and
it
does
here
because
it's
information
we
have
we're
not
having
to
do
additional
work
or
research.
So
we're
happy
to
provide
that
we
could
do
that
as
a
hotline.
We
could
do
that
as
an
IP.
I
G
Bob
can
I
just
quickly
say,
say
something
because
councelor
Yates
I
think
it's
really
important,
and
I
mentioned
this
to
our
prosecutor,
that
we
come
back.
He
and
I
come
back
on
another
date,
so
that
some
of
these
more
in-depth
questions
can
be
asked
because
I
think
they
are
fair
questions
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
supply
answers
for
everybody.
A
And
I
was
remiss
I'm,
sorry,
council,
member
friend,
as
I
as
I
jump
in.
But
I
was
remiss
of
saying
that
in
the
beginning
that
we
have
thought-
and
we've
heard
from
you-
that
you'd
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
how
Municipal
Court
works
and
getting
a
little
bit
deeper.
So
we
will
be
planning
that
in
the
future,
particularly
as
we're
doing
some
continuing
onboarding
post
elction
so
know
that
we've
got
that
in
in
our
thoughts.
C
Yeah
in,
in
which
case
I
would
like
to
ask
for
a
clarification,
because
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
a
conversation
is
typically
more
Illuminating
and
helpful
than
a
hotline
post,
and
so
could
we
could
we
instead
plan
a
time
where
we
can
come
back
to
council
and
have
that
conversation.
I
Well,
let
me
make
a
suggestion
Teresa,
because
it
sounds
like
and
I
understand
entirely
what
Nya
said
that
that
the
conversation
may
not
be
able
to
happen
until
early
next
year,
and
that's
fine
I
understand
that
the
the
council's
calendar
is
pretty
full
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year.
But
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
community
confusion.
Questions
concerns.
Misunderstandings
are
commun
court
and
if
this
is
something
that
the
prosecutor
does
every
day
of
the
week,
he
literally
just
pulls
it
off
his
computer.
I
B
Sounds
good,
thank
you
and
I
would
just
add
for
that
conversation
that
I
won't
be
here,
for
maybe
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
the
county
sheriff
and
the
prosecutor
here
to
answer
questions
about
overcrowding
and
what
gets
you
know
what's
in
whose
Lane
and
and
other
questions
that
council
members
have
so
that
everything
can
everybody
will
be
there
for
one
conversation
and
we
won't
have
to
get
back
on
stuff
judge
Khan.
Did
you
have
something
else
to
add
as
well.
B
Thanks,
we
have
a
couple
more
questions,
Nicole
you're
up
and
then
Tara.
J
Thank
you
and
thank
you,
judge
cotton
for
this
really
informative
presentation,
as
well
as
for
helping
to
keep
the
Court's
vot
steady
through
all
these
stopping
transitions.
I
know
that's
not
not
an
easy
thing
to
do,
and
thank
you
for
your
leadership.
J
There
I
just
also
want
to
know
I
really
appreciate
the
Court's
partnership
with
some
of
the
other
groups
that
are
providing
Supportive
Services,
not
just
at
CU
with
restorative
justice,
but
also
some
of
the
local
transitional
housing
and
sober
Supportive
Housing
Programs
too
I
heard
recently
that
we
were
able
to
recommend
and
get
somebody
admitted
to
the
other
side
Academy
in
Denver,
which
is
really
great,
and
you
know
I
think
to
Bob's
questions.
It
seems
like
we
don't
always
have
the
resources
to
do
restorative
justice
and
these
more
intensive
involved.
J
You
know
transitional
housing,
sober
Supportive,
Housing
things,
but
we
can
certainly
do
more
when
we're
partnering
with
others.
So
thank
you
for
for
all
of
that
to
excuse
me
to
this
question
that
Bob
had
about
who
uses
Community
or
sorry
of
getting
some
more
information
on
community
Court
when
people
are
using
it
versus
not
what
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
in
that
is.
J
If
we
look
at
the
people
who
are
coming
in
with
those
eight
offenses
that
might
open
up
the
possibility
of
Community
Court
of
those
people
who
is
using
Community
Court,
who
is
not
using
Community
Court
for
for
the
offenses
I,
don't
mean
individual
names.
Just
like
you
know
this
many
people
there
were
10
people
who
came
in
with
these
offenses
five
of
them
used
Community
Court,
five
of
them
didn't
just
so.
We
have
a
sense
of
you
know.
J
What's
the
volume
in
each
bucket
and
then
I
would
also
be
really
interested
just
based
on
the
recidivism
numbers
that
you
show
and
how
effective
Community
Court
seems
to
be
in
reducing
recidivism,
especially
as
it
is
getting
people
into
housing.
What
are
the
the
outcomes
for
the
people
in
each
of
those
buckets
as
well?
Does
that
make
sense?
So
you
know:
are
we
seeing?
J
G
I
think
it
does,
and
obviously
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
anecdotally
I
can
follow
up
with
a
hotline
post
for
that
as
well,
but
anecdotally,
if
someone
is
not
engaged
with
Community
Court,
the
the
B.
The
big
issue
here
is
that
if
someone
gets
a
summons
for
any
of
those
eight
offenses,
it's
typically
someone
as
I
mentioned
earlier
who's
unhoused,
and
that
person
is
really
unlikely
to
show
up
to
our
building
for
court
and
so
there's
a
certain
percentage
of
people
who
do
appear
at
Deacon's
closet
and
just
happen
to
be
there.
G
And
then
they
realize
oh
there's
a
navigator.
There's
a
prosecutor
and
the
prosecutors
will
say:
hey!
Look
if
you'd
like
to
talk
about
your
case
that
you've
got
pending.
We
can
talk
to
you
about
that
case
and
so
for
those
people
who
engage
with
us
there's
anecdotally
again,
a
higher
percentage
of
those
folks
will
get
less
offenses
going
forward
because
they
have
that
engagement.
G
They
are
showing
a
little
bit
of
commitment
to
try
to
resolve
the
issues
that
they
have,
that
other
group
that
I
talked
about
earlier,
which
are
the
folks
who
don't
want
to
engage
with
us.
They
get
a
ticket
for
camping
and
they
don't
appear
in
court
and
then
they
get
another
ticket
for
camping
and
they
don't
appear
in
court
and
they
could
rack
up
several
tickets
in
a
in
a
row
for
that
and
be
unwilling
or
unable.
Sometimes,
people
are
simply
psychologically
unwilling
or
unable
to
come
through
the
building.
They.
G
They
may
have
a
backpack
that
they
can't
leave
outside
because
it
might
get
stolen
or
they've
got
a
mental
health
disorder
that
doesn't
want
them
to
walk
through
that
door
because
they
feel
trauma
when
they
come
through,
and
so,
but
there's
also
people
who,
just
simply
don't
want
to
come
to
court.
They
are
afraid
of
the
consequence.
They
don't
want
to
deal
with
their
behavior
and
those
people
are
completely
disengaged
from
us
and
so
those
obviously
there's
a
higher
recidivism
rate
for
those
individuals.
G
G
Any
one
of
these
eight
violations,
how
many
of
them
were
entered
into
the
community
court
process
and
how
much
case
how
many
cases
did
they
have
following
that
versus
those
people
who
didn't
and
I
might
be
able
to
break
that
down.
It'll
take
a
little
effort,
but
I
think
our
staff
can
probably
do
that
in
present,
pres
in
the
hotline
post.
J
Okay
and
ter
I
saw
Teresa
starting
to
come
off,
mute
there
too,
possibly
to
chime
in
on
something
that
I
was.
Is
there
anything
I
was
doing
or
saying
that
was
heading
us
in
a
wrong
direction.
C
J
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah
think
it.
It
would
be
helpful
and
I
think
you
know
this.
This
point
you're
making
as
well
judge
Conan
about
how,
when
we
go
to
people
and
meet
them
where
they
are
and
try
to
engage
them
in
things
that
are
going
to
help
get
them
to
housing.
J
That
actually
makes
our
lives
easier
in
the
long
run,
because
we're
not
just
issuing
tickets
without
any
real
impact
and
I
just
had
one
other
question,
which
is
just
around
I,
think
I'm
still
a
little
bit
confused
on
what
types
of
things
we
deal
with
in
the
Municipal
Court
versus
what
types
of
things
would
be
happening
at
the
county
or
the
state
level,
so
does
processing
kind
of
all
tickets
and
offenses
start
at
the
municipal
court.
So
if
there's
an
assault
charge
for
example,
does
that
start
with
us?
Can
we
change
it?
J
Do
we
have
a
choice
and
and
what
we
do
with
that?
If,
if
there's
any
way
of
summarizing
that
in
a
couple
sentences,
that
would
be
helpful?
Thank
you.
G
I'll
do
the
best
I.
Can
it's
a
very
good
question?
It
was
part
of
something
I
thought
I
might
address
in
this
presentation.
So
I'm
glad
you
raised
it.
The
we
handle
misdemeanors
only
we
do
not
have
jurisdiction
over
felonies
and
there's
a
lot
of
misdemeanors
that
we
also
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
but
felonies,
for
example,
a
second
degree,
assault,
first
degree,
assault,
murder,
robbery,
burglary.
All
of
those
things
we
do
not
have
jurisdiction,
so
those
can't
even
be
filed
in
our
court,
and
that
includes
all
higher
level.
G
Drug
offenses
marijuana
is
the
only
drug
offense
that
our
court
actually
handles.
Aside
from
alcohol,
so
fentanyl
meth
methamphetamines,
whether
it's
possession
or
distribution.
Those
are
all
state
level
charges
which
can't
come
to
our
court.
So
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
say
well,
you're
going
to
come
to
our
court
first
and
we're
going
to
have
a
community
Court
model.
Where
we
deal
with
your
mental
health
issues
or
your
drug
addiction
issues
for
those
higher
level
charges.
We
don't
have
that
ability.
That's
all
in
the
state.
E
B
E
All
right,
so
my
first
question
is:
is
I
think
you
just
answered
it,
but
let's
say
that
I'm
riding
my
bike
through
the
underpass
and
somebody
is
smoking,
meth
or
shooting
up
or
whatever
is
that
allowed
now,
because,
let's
just
say
that
I'm
walking
into
the
municipal
building
and
people
are
just
smoking,
meth
outside
and
right
outside
the
municipal
building,
so
I'm
just
wondering
did
the
state
change
the
law
and
now
anything
goes
or
what's
happening
out
there.
G
So
I'm
sure
Maris
can
can
respond
to
that
question.
But
obviously
it's
not
legal.
You
know
open
possession
of
a
controlled
substance
of
that
nature
is
illegal,
and
so
it's
just
a
matter
of
how
those
folks
get
prosecuted
from
a
police
department
perspective
initially
and
then
where,
where
they
end
up.
G
E
Thanks
Nicole
for
talking
about
the
other
side,
Academy,
which
I
was
just
looking
at
the
brochure
today,
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
working
with
them.
I.
Think
it's
great!
That's
not
a
question
question,
but
a
comment.
Okay,
next
question:
you
talked
about
the
48
hour
rule.
G
E
So
the
most
people
can
be
in
is
48
Hours.
Would
you
say
that
most
of
the
time
people
are
let
out
same
day,
even
though
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
you,
the
community,
so
many
people
in
the
community
were
pretty
upset,
including
the
unhoused
in
the
community,
when
somebody
who
stabbed
another
person
was
let
out
the
same
day.
Remember
that
case.
E
G
So
again,
keep
in
mind
that
that
defendant
was
given
as
a
a
charge
in
the
state
court
right.
They
have
different
parameters.
I
thought,
I
read
it.
Maybe
I
have
a
confus
with
a
different
case,
but
I
thought
it
was
48
hours,
but
it's
sort
of
irrelevant.
That's
a
pretty
short
time
for
somebody.
Who's
committed
a
very
significant
charge,
right,
right
and
I.
Don't
think!
That's
the
automatic!
G
It's
a
pretty
engaged
process
that
a
county
or
District
Court
Judge
has
to
go
through
looking
at
the
statute,
I
can't
speak
for
what
they
would
do,
because
it
is
a
different
approach
and
they
have
different
rules
that
govern
as
far
as
whether
they're
eligible
for
a
PR
Bond.
But
you
know,
with
with
the
way
the
the
bond
reform
has
gone,
is
and
because
of
the
jail
booking
standards,
they're
still
put
up
against
it
as
well.
G
The
district
court
has
some
of
the
same
challenges
that
we
have
is
who
do
I
want
to
be
in
custody
right
now,
do
I
want
the
person
I've,
sentenced
to
180
day
jail
sentence
on
assault
charg
or
do
I
want
the
person
who
has
been
alleged
to
a
commit
offense,
and
so
obviously
in
the
perfect
world
there
would
be.
If
someone
has
committed
an
offense,
they
can
be
in
custody
and
if
they,
if
there's
probable,
cause
to
believe
they.
They
have
committed
a
crime
and
they
have
a
failure
to
appear
history.
G
So
it's
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
blanket
rule
that
they're
out
the
next
day,
I
think
the
people
feel
like
that's
what
happens
because
they
hear
those
stories
and
it
can
be
very
challenging
for
the
members
of
the
community
to
hear
that
and
to
see
someone
commit
another
violation
right
away.
I
just
don't
have
the.
G
E
But
I
I,
just
my
next
question-
is
about
unint
is
about
consequences
for
behavior
and
it's
about
the
municipal
court.
So
if
you
are
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
bad
or
good,
I,
don't
have
a
value
judgment.
Saying:
okay,
you
get
a
driver's
license.
I'm
you're
not
going
to
have
you
know
we're
going
to
take
away.
Your
ticket
is
what
is
to
say
for
like
consequences
of
actual
behavior
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
getting
your
driver's
license
doesn't
make
somebody
stop
doing
a
certain
Behavior.
E
G
I
think
it's
a
very
fair
question
and
again
we
perhaps
we
can
dive
into
a
little
more
with
some
more
statistics
down
the
road.
But
one
of
the
things
that
you
should
keep
in
mind
is
that
for
some
of
these
people,
what
we
do
as
a
consequence
doesn't
actually
change
what
they
do.
Next
I
I
sentenced
one
woman
for
20
years
with
open
container
charges
and
I
gave
her
ranges
of
sentences
from
two
days
to
more
and
it
never
changed
her
behavior.
She
was
out
doing
it
again.
G
Once
we
got
her
housed,
she
stopped
the
behavior.
She
didn't
stop
drinking,
she
stopped
the
behavior
in
public
and
so
we're
yes,
it's
true
we're
probably
not
imposing
a
consequence
to
that
person
for
drinking
in
public
on
those
we're
looking
at
it
from
a.
How
do
we
balance
the
the
goals
of
the
community?
How
do
we
get
this
Behavior
to
stop
if
the
goal
of
the
consequences
to
stop
the
behavior?
It
doesn't
work
very
well
with
the
these
folks
who
are
on
a
kind
of
the
lowest
level
of
the
hierarchy
of
needs.
G
They're
really
not
thinking
when
they're
mentally
health
challenged
out
in
the
community,
whether
that
that
beer
is
going
to
change
their
their
outcome
of
going
to
jail.
It's
not
what
they
think
at
that
moment,.
G
And
so
that's
what
we've
learned
over
a
long
stretch
of
time
to
way
to
the
behavior.
So
sometimes
there
isn't
a
consequence
and
I
I
totally
appreciate
that,
because
I
was
a
prosecutor
for
a
number
of
years,
and
part
of
my
built-in
mechanism
is
how
come
there's
not
a
consequence
for
accountability.
But
I've
learned
over
time
that
that's
really
a
hard
one
to
get
at
with
people
who
aren't
operating.
In
that
same
way.
E
I
mean
that
makes
sense,
which
is
gonna,
have
discussion
later
on
when
we
talk
about
what
to
do
with
that
extra
money,
a
whole
another
story,
but
so
I
have
another
question
now
about
trespassing.
You
said
some
types
of
trespassing
I'm
not
concerned
about
the
alcohol
container
as
much
as
I
am
is
trespassing
is
something
that
affects
other
people
right.
So
if
somebody
is
trespassing
in
somebody's
house
or
facility
or
lying
down
in
front
of
a
store,
it
affects
there's
victims
involved,
and
so
that's,
where
I'm
thinking
about
consequences.
To
be
honest,.
G
Right
and
so
that
that's
a
fair
question
as
well
and
then
one
of
the
unique
things
about
trespass
is:
there
are
two
multiple
types
of
trespass:
there's
one
trespass
ordin
one
part
of
the
ordinance
where,
if,
if
someone
has
been
received
a
written
notice
not
to
go
somewhere
if
they've
been
advising
writing,
then
that
charge
has
a
state
counterpart
and
that's
a
big
deal
for
us,
because
if
it's
got
a
misdemeanor
State
counterpart,
then
they
can
be
held
in
custody
on
a
on
a
bond
longer
than
48
hours.
G
And
so
that's
part
of
the
calculus.
That
goes
in
for
a
prosecutor,
in
my
view,
is
okay.
I've
got
this
person
who
I
can
I
don't
have
to
dismiss
their
charge
because
they
were
told
at
this
location,
for
example,
a
store
on
the
Pearl
Street
Mall.
You
can't
be
here,
and
we
and
the
officer
in
writing
gives
them
an
Affidavit
of
trespass.
G
You
can't
come
back
and
then
they
come
back
that
that
written
VI,
that
violation
of
that
written
notice
has
a
state
counterpart
which
allows
when
they
are
issued
that
summons
to
be
held
in
custody
on
if
they
failed
to
appear.
And
all
of
this
is
based
on
the
fact
that
these
po
people
probably
won't
come
to
court
and
there'll,
be
a
warrant
out
and
so
we're
looking.
G
That
was
the
example
of
a
person
who's
like.
Yes,
that
person
needs
to
have
a
jail
sentence
because
they
are
disrupting
the
community
and
they've
done
it
over
and
over
again,
despite
the
fact
that
we've
tried
to
get
them
to
do
something
different.
So
I
agree
with
you,
philosophically,
as
to
how
you
approach
that
you
just
have
to
work
through
the
the
Practical
limitations
that
we
have.
E
I
mean
if
we're
not
putting
people
in
jail
for
stabbing,
how
why
do
I
doubt
we're
going
to
put
them
in
jail
for
trespass,
but
that's
just
me,
but
anyway,
moving
on
to
my
next
question,
Rachel
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
moving,
I
might
I
might
be
actually
okay,
I
know
Matt
in
Matt's
in
Matt's
hotline.
He
did
ask
you
some
questions.
E
My
question
to
you
would
be:
would
it
help
you
to
have
some
sort
of
sober
living
or
housing
after
leaving
jail,
because
we're
all
worried
about
recidivism
right
here
in
this
Council
and
to
me
that
would
be
one
of
our
big
needs,
but
I
want
to
know
if
it's
your
big
need.
G
Bo
am
I
glad
you
asked
that
I
was
hoping.
Someone
would
ask
me
what
I
need.
It
is
a
big
need.
We
absolutely
need
places
where
we
can
I
have
the
ability
to
tailor
my
sentence.
So
if
someone,
if
I
give
someone,
let's
say
45
days
of
jail
but
I
tell
them
hey
if
you're
you're
willing
to
go
to
the
tribe
recovery
house
and
you're
willing
to
fulfill
that
program
as
soon
as
you
agree
to
do
that,
I
can
suspend
the
rest
of
your
sentence
on
the
condition
that
you
complete
that
program.
G
So
we
need
the
places
we
need
the
wraparound
Services.
We
need
the
ability
for
them
to
succeed
when
they
do
come
out
of
custody
or,
if
they're,
at
Community
Court,
for
example,
and
some
of
the
people
that
we
trying
to
house
they
aren't
a
great
fit
for
just
an
apartment
because
they
don't
succeed
in
that
apartment.
So
we're
we're
really
working
hard
and
and
the
HHS
folks
are
the
experts
here,
but
I
think
there's
agreement
across
the
board
that
we
we
need.
More
of
that
and.
G
E
We
need
a
lot
of
it.
Yeah,
okay,
good
and
I.
Think
my
last
question
everybody's
going
to
be
so
happy
once
the
alternative
sentencing
facility
is
open.
Do
you
think
that's
going
to
be
help
help
the
overcrowding
or
is
this
outside
of
your
purview.
G
Well,
it's
outside
of
what
I've
thought
about
I
I
I've
I
gave
it
some
thought
in
the
last
week
or
so,
but
I
just
don't
know
enough
about
how
we're
going
to
that's
going
to
be
utilized.
You
know
everybody
wants
to
use
the
$5
do
for
that.
G
You
guys
get
in
16
different
ways,
and
so,
when
we're
thinking
about
allocating
resources
that
are
going
to
be
at
the
jail,
I'm
sure
there's
all
kinds
of
individuals
and
entities
who
have
an
idea
of
what
they're
going
to
use
that
for
so
it
is
a
good
question
for
me
to
to
raise
with
our
prosecution
team,
as
well
as
the
jail
to
see
what
options
are
going
to
be
available
out
there
when
it
does
get
completed.
But
I
don't
have
a
good
answer.
G
I
would
I
would
love
for
there
to
be
more
bed
space
for
our
defendants.
I
know
our
prosecutors
have
at
least
talked
about
the
possibility
of
having
a
certain
number
of
beds
allocated
at
for
us
at
the
jail
or
at
the
alternative
facility.
I
think
when
you
think
broad
longterm
on
this,
the
having
housing
that,
where
keeps
people
out
of
jail
in
the
first
place,
where
they
don't
have
to
be
monitored
by
armed
folks,
is
going
to
be
a
better
long-term
solution
for
a
lot
of.
E
This,
but
wouldn't
you
say-
and
this
is
the
promise
I
promise
Rachel.
This
is
my
last
thing:
The
Other,
Side
Academy.
The
only
way
somebody
would
want
to
probably
go
there
is,
let's
say,
because,
just
because
of
human
nature
itself
is,
if
that
you
tell
you,
give
them
the
option,
you
either
go
there
or
you
go
to
jail.
So
in
some
sense
we
have
to
and
to
jun's
point
I
guess
right
to
some
sense.
We
have
to
say
well
you're
going
to
go
to
jail.
E
G
K
G
E
Yeah,
okay;
well
thanks
Rachel
for
your
thanks,
judge
KH,
for
your
help,
thanks
Rachel
for
your
flexibility,
SLP
patience.
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
our
community
time
here,
Tara
I'm,
just
saying
I'm
not
going
to
take
total
responsibility
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
long
evening.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
much
judge
Khan
for
answering
all
of
our
questions.
I.
There
were
no
questions
to
us,
so
I
think
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
this.
Unless
Aon,
you
want
to
say
some
words,
you're
I
think
the
only
person
who
didn't
ask
any
questions
is
that
right,
you're
welcome.
D
G
B
A
So
much
and
I
will
go
quickly
and
call
on
our
Chief
to
kick
us.
K
Off
good
evening,
mayor
Brockett,
good
evening,
mayor
Pro,
wallik
and
good
evening,
m
Council,
my
name
is
Maris
heral
I'm,
the
police
chief
presenting
with
me
tonight,
is
going
to
be
deputy
chief
Redfern
and
we
have
Dr
Ryan
heart
on
backup.
If
we
have
data
questions
as
well.
Next.
K
Slide
you
can
go
to
the
next
one
so
tonight,
we'll
quickly
go
through
I'll,
try
to
get
back
on
on
schedule
here,
we'll
quickly
go
through
Citywide
crime,
Trends
and
how
we
are
focusing
our
resources
into
the
geographic
locations
in
the
city
with
a
high
density
of
crime
and
calls
for
service.
But
we
will
spend
tonight
some
considerable
time
talking
about
significant
incidents
that
have
occurred
in
Boulder
in
the
last
couple
months
that
have
garnered
a
lot
of
community
attention
and
media
attention,
as
well.
K
We'll
finish
up
by
showing
you
some
of
the
partnering
with
the
community
on
problem
solving
projects
and
work
with
the
community
that
we
find
is
beneficial
for
for
everyone.
Next
slide,
just
as
a
reminder.
We
are
operating
with
a
stratified
policing
model
and
accountability
model,
BPD
monitors,
Citywide
problem
locations
and
which
are
located
within
these
identified
problem
areas.
K
We
also
are
looking
constantly
for
crime
patterns
such
as
C
catalytic
converter,
thefts,
motor
vehicle
thefts,
bike
thefts
and
develop
crime
prevention
strategies
to
address
these
types
of
crimes
next
slide.
What
you're
looking
at
here
is
five
years
worth
the
DAT
data,
starting
from
January
through
August,
a
lot
of
the
increases
we're
seeing
as
seasonal,
but
they
are
significant
and
they
are
concerning.
K
So
if
we
look
at
the
leth
hand,
side
of
the
the
graph
we're
looking
at
violent
crimes
from
2019
to
2023,
we
are
seeing
significant
increases
in
violent
crime,
and
this
is
being
pushed
mostly
because
of
simple
assaults
and
aggravated
assaults.
We
are
also
seeing
significant
increases
in
menacing
charges,
and
this
is
where
people
argue
and
make
threats
against
each
other.
The
positive
news
on
the
violent
crime
is
that
we're
seeing
significant
reductions
in
robberies
in
2023
compared
to
2022.
K
If
we
look
over
to
the
other
side
of
the
graph
property
crime,
we're
seeing
significant
increases-
and
this
is
being
pushed
mostly
by
thefts,
personal
thefts
from
people
but
also
business
thefts
as
well.
The
good
news
is
from
2020
to
current.
We
are
still
seeing
48%
reduction
in
motor
vehicle
thefts
U,
mostly
because
of
our
tremendous
focusing
on
this
specific
problem.
We
also
see
Society
crimes
or
what
I
like
to
call
Quality
of
Life
concerns.
K
We're
also
seeing
moderate
increases
in
quality
of
life
concerns,
mostly
driven
by
drug
offenses
in
Boulder
next
slide
when
I
think
there's
another
slide
as
well.
If
you
can
push
so
when
we
look
at
Boulder
and
I've
presented
this
many
times,
but
it's
always
good
to
review.
K
When
we're
looking
at
the
geography
of
Boulder,
we
really
see
that
crime
is
heavily
con
con
at
both
in
the
downtown
Corridor
and
the
University
Hill
area,
with
slight
concentration
at
the
28th
Street
Mall,
mostly
driven
by
property
crime
and
thefts
from
stores
next
slide
next
slide.
Emily.
K
Sorry
I
wanted
just
to
spend
a
second,
because
it
is
such
Community,
CERN
and
I
know
it's
a
concern
of
council.
We
are
really
in
an
epidemic
with
overdoses
and
older
and
we
continue
to
see
a
tremendous
amount
of
drug
trafficking.
K
In
fact,
our
drug
and
narcotics
violations
are
up
79%
from
last
year,
which
is
really
alarming,
and
so,
if
you
just
look
at
these
two
neighborhoods
downtown
in
the
hill,
you
will
see
that
40%
of
all
overdoses
that
have
occurred
in
2023
are
from
those
two
small
neighborhoods
and
60%
of
all
fatal
overdoses
in
2023
are
contained
in
these
small
neighborhoods.
Unfortunately,
Fentanyl
played
a
factor
in
the
overdoses
and
fatal
overdoses,
so
from
January
1st
of
2023
to
August
28th
of
2023.
K
K
We
would
probably
have
a
lot
more
deaths
because
of
all
our
our
officers
are
equipped
with
Narcan,
but
unfortunately,
what
we're
seeing
as
our
officers
are
deploying
Naran
really
on
a
daily
basis,
if
not
more
than
once
than
sometimes
three
to
five
times
a
day.
The
overd
does
that
we're
seeing
at
one
point.
K
Last
month
we
had
to
stage
in
ambulance
in
Central
Park
because
we
are
experiencing
so
many
fitmill
overdoses,
and
so
at
this
point,
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
deputy
chief
R,
who
is
going
to
go
through
some
presentations
on
current
projects
and
then
talk
about
some
of
these
significant
incidents
that
we
have
seen
in
the
last
couple
months,
deputy
chief
Redfern
you're
out.
L
Council
mayor
Brockett
I'm,
going
to
talk
really
quickly
about
a
couple
of
our
problem
locations
as
we've
shared
with
you
in
the
past,
through
our
stratified
policing
program,
we've
been
able
to
actually
remove
some
locations
from
our
Focus
area.
We
currently
have
two
that
we're
still
working
on.
One
is
the
library
which
is
as
we
knew
when
we
started.
The
problem
was
going
to
be
something:
that's
not
an
easy
fix
overnight.
I'm
happy
to
say,
though,
we've
had
great
partnership
with
Library
staff.
L
We've
done
a
couple,
really
cool
events
with
our
police
officers,
a
community
we've
done
two
Community
reading
events
with
kids
in
the
library
that
were
very
well
received
coffee
with
the
cop,
and
we
tend
to
do
more
of
these
things.
Our
staff
has
gone
out
to
train
the
the
new
security
staff.
L
That's
been
working
in
the
library
for
a
little
while
and
we
continue
to
work
with
them
and
then
really
we're
doing
continuing
our
assessments
to
figure
out
any
areas
around
the
library
that
we
can
impact
to
make
it
less
conducive
to
Crime.
So
that's
an
ongoing
project
we'll
continue
to
provide
you
updates
next
slide.
L
Please
the
next
location
we've
talked
about
for
quite
some
time
on
our
updates
to
you
is
the
Circle
K
at
14th
and
Canyon,
and
continues
to
be
a
problem.
Location
they've
actually
been
super
cooperative
for
the
most
part
in
fixed
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
we've
pointed
out
to
them
that
are
causing
issues
there.
L
What
we've
seen,
especially
since
we've,
had
a
increaseed
focus
on
encampments
downtown
as
Circle
K
kind
of
just
tends
to
be
a
a
meat
location
where
people
just
come
and
go
it's
one
of
the
only
convenience
stores
there
open
24
hours
most
of
the
time,
we're
continuing
to
work
with
employees,
there's
a
little
bit
of
turnover
there
and
management
and
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
nearby
we
can
also
address.
L
Instead
of
just
focusing
on
the
store,
we've
noticed
and
we've
been
keeping
data
that
when
we
do
directed
patrols
with
our
officers
going
by
on
VAR
VAR
times
of
day,
crime
goes
down.
When
we
remove
those,
it
goes
right
up,
so
we're
going
to
continue
to
have
an
increased
presence
there
as
we're
able
to,
and
then
the
chief
and
I
have
committed
that.
If
we
don't
have
successes
further,
if
there's
issues
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
their
corporate
folks
to
see
what
other
ATT
traction
we
can
get
there.
L
Those
are
our
two
problem
locations
I'm,
going
to
move
in
to
talk
about
a
number
of
significant
incidents.
Next
slide.
Please
next
slide,
please
so
I
just
want
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
going
on
with
our
police
department,
since
we've
last
provided
an
update
to
council.
Many
of
these
things,
as
the
chief
mentioned,
have
garnered
media
attention.
I
just
want
to
give
you
a
glimpse
of
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
working.
There's
a
lot
of
sign,
significant
events.
L
We
tried
to
pair
this
down
to
things
that
had
impact,
and
we
just
wanted
to
provide
some
updates
that
you
may
have
not
heard
yet.
The
first
one
I'll
talk
about
happened
in
May
on
May
25th.
Our
officers
were
trying
to
locate
a
man
who
had
a
felony
domestic
violence
warrant
for
his
arrest.
He
had
actually
fractured
facial
bones
in
the
victim
and
he
had
actually
got
got
a
hold
of
the
victim
and
said
I'm
on
my
way
over.
She
knew
he
always
carried
a
gun.
L
Our
officers
waited
in
the
area
in
case
he
did
show,
and
indeed
he
did
when
they
made
contact
with
him.
He
threw
an
object
at
our
officers
and
instead
of
running
away,
he
kind
of
walked
away
quickly,
while
reaching
into
a
little
Satchel
that
he
had.
Our
officers
deployed
the
taser
to
subdue
him
when
he
wouldn't
show
his
hands
and
that
caused
the
subject
to
go
to
the
ground.
While
on
the
ground,
the
subject
was
able
to
work
through
that
taser
and
produce
a
handgun.
We
were
determined
during
our
investigation.
L
The
subject
fired
around
from
that
handgun
that
narrowly
missed
striking
one
of
our
officers.
Our
officers
did,
as
you
know,
return
fire
and,
sadly,
the
suspect
was
pronounced
deceased
at
the
scene.
The
Boulder
County
critical
incident
team
reviewed
this
case
as
well
as
the
District
Attorney's
office
and
the
district
attorney
determined
that
there
was
no
criminal
culpability
on
on
behalf
of
the
officers.
We
do
believe
the
officer's
presence
there
likely
saved
that
domestic
violence
victim
for
being
harmed
that
evening
next
slide.
L
This
is
a
tragic
case
that
got
a
significant
amount
of
media
attention.
Just
updating
you
a
little
bit
with
the
charges,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
details
of
this
I,
don't
think
it's
appropriate
just
because
of
how
horrible
this
case
was,
but
we
did
investigate
the
first
murder
of
a
small
child
that
was
a
two-month-old.
We
learned
that
the
mother
had
left
with
the
child
was
possibly
suicidal.
L
We
had
worked
with
our
law
enforcement
Partners
to
put
out
a
bulletin,
our
officers
located
the
vehicle
and,
by
the
time
they
located
the
vehicle
at
the
emergency
room
parking
lot.
Our
officers
took
custody
of
that
child
ran
him
inside
the
hospital,
but
it
was
too
late
and
he
was
pronounced
deceased.
The
mother
was
charged
with
multiple
felony
counts,
as
you'll
see
there,
just
a
really
horrible
case.
I
just
want
to
provide
you.
The
update
next
slide
please.
L
So
this
was
an
interesting
case
that
also
got
a
significant
amount
of
of
media
attention
on
this
date.
Back
on
July
25th,
our
officers
located
a
stolen
car
near
30th
in
Iris,
and
they
tried
to
stop
the
car.
The
female
passenger
stayed
and
she
was
arrested.
The
male
ran
on
foot
somehow
was
able
to
scale
on
top
of
that
fir
stone
that
you
see
there
as
soon
as
our
officers
tried
to
make
contact
with
him.
He
said
that
he
had
a
gun
and
intended
to
harm
the
officers.
L
So
a
SWAT
situation
was
was
conducted.
It
was
a
very
hot
day
we
negotiated
with
him
for
several
hours,
got
him
things
like
Gatorade
and
other
things
that
he
requested,
and
eventually
he
willingly
came
down
as
you'll
see
on
the
screen.
He
was
on
Parole.
He
was
charged
with
the
parole
violation.
He
was
charged
with
Distributing
drugs,
resisting
arrests
and
all
kinds
of
other
charges
there.
He
is
still
in
custody
next
slide,
please.
Unfortunately,
in
August
we
had
two
fatal,
auto
motorcycle
crashes
in
the
city.
L
They
were
a
very
short
proximity
to
one
another.
Both
motorcycle
riders
were
later
pronounced
deceased.
Our
traffic
section
investigated
both
and
determined
that
speed
was
a
factor.
The
speed
of
the
motorcyclist
was
a
factor
in
those
crashes.
L
We
are
working
with
City
engineering,
as
well
as
our
Traffic
Unit
and
our
public
information
officer
to
figure
out
better
ways
to
deal
with
speed,
to
deal
with
public
campaigns,
to
try
to
address
traffic
safety
and
we're
we're
we're
focusing
our
enforcement
efforts
in
locations
where
we're
seeing
a
high
number
of
vehicle
crashes.
Next
slide
this
on
this
incident.
We'll
talk
about
this
for
a
couple
different
times,
so
we
had
a
subject
that
was
sitting
outside
of
the
municipal
building.
L
There
was
an
argument
that
ensued
between
two
subjects
and
the
victim
was
stabbed
several
times
it's
about
noon.
During
the
day
on
a
Friday,
our
officers
immediately
responded.
They
placed
a
tourniquet
on
the
victim's
wounds
and
he
was
taken
to
the
hospital
nearby.
Our
officers
located
the
suspect
he
was
is
taken
into
custody
quickly
and
then
within
48
Hours.
He
was
charged
with
first
degree
assault,
which
is
the
highest
level
of
assault
that
you
can
be
charged
with
in
48
hours.
L
He
was
given
a
PR
Bond
and
released
next
slide
please,
but
this
is
going
to
tie
into
what
I
just
talked
about,
but
in
response
to
repeated
overdoses,
as
the
chief
mentioned
in
Central
Park
and
complaints
from
the
community,
we
got
with
our
Boulder
County
drug
task
force
and
we
conducted
an
operation
in
Central
Park.
In
one
day,
we
arrested
seven
people
that
were
engaged
in
drug
crimes
in
in
the
open,
including
distribution
of
fentanyl.
L
As
part
of
that
incident,
we
came
into
contact
with
the
subject
that
I
just
mentioned,
that
stabbed
the
person
in
front
of
the
municipal
building.
He
ran
from
our
officers
on
two
occasions,
stole
two
different
bicycles
and
was
located
eventually
in
possession
of
large
amounts
of
fentanyl.
L
That's
when
we
learned
that
he'd
been
given
a
PR
Bond
and
was
out
on
those
charges,
we
he
was
arrested
for
these
operations
and
and
still
is
in
jail
at
this
point
on
more
serious
charges,
including
the
distribution
of
f
next
slide,
please
another
very
tragic
case
and,
to
be
frank,
one
of
the
worst
gruesome
homicides
I've.
Seen
in
my
time
on
August
29th,
it
was
a
roommate
on
roommate
disturbance.
Our
officer
did
an
extensive
investigation,
along
with
our
detectives.
When
we
arrived,
we
located
a
victim
with
multiple
wounds.
L
We
were
able
to
determine
that
the
roommate
inflicted
those
wounds.
He
was
arrested
in
charge
with
multiple
counts
of
murder,
different
levels
of
murder
for
the
same
individual
next
slide,
please.
So
this
is
an
interesting
case.
This
actually
got
International
attention
because
it
happened
during
the
first
CU
home
game.
While
we
were
having
our
football
operations,
we
got
called
to
a
home
on
the
hill,
where
two
young
women
were
home
and
realized.
Somebody
was
trying
to
get
into
their
home.
They
Pro
provided
a
description.
L
Our
officers
actually
located
the
suspect
trying
to
place
stolen
items
into
his
car.
He
ran
from
our
officers
and
got
away
that
happened
two
different
times
where
he
was
spotted
and
almost
instantly
disappeared
and
what
we
determined
is.
He
was
going
into
unsecure
residences
that
had
been
left
open
where
the
majority
of
the
people
on
the
hill
that
day
were
either
attending
the
CU
game
or
watching
it
somewhere
else,
and
so
he
was
arrested.
He
was
charged
with
10
different
crimes,
including
multiple
burglaries.
L
He
had
actually
one
point
broke
gone
into:
unsecure
residence,
stolen,
somebody's
clothes,
changed,
his
clothes
shaved
changed
his
appearance,
but
our
officer
doing
surveillance
in
the
area
we're
actually
able
to
locate
him
and
arrest
him
of
note
on
that.
Following
this
incident,
We've
re
upped
our
focus
on
the
hill,
especially
with
new
students
that
may
not
be
familiar
with
ways
that
they
can
better
protect
their
property.
We
hang
door
hangers
on
unsecure
homes,
reminding
people
to
take
precautions
and
those
sorts
of
things
next
slide.
L
Please.
So
this
case
occurred
very
recently
and
was
also
a
very
scary
situation
down
in
Central
Park
Park,
as
many
as
you're
aware,
I'll,
just
mention
briefly,
that
we
responded
early
6
a.m.
hour
of
a
man
in
the
park
driving
a
vehicle
trying
to
run
people
over
our
officers
arrived
and
located
the
car
or
the
truck
unoccupied.
We
eventually,
through
some
area,
searches
located
the
suspect
we
actually
located
him
at
the
Circle
K
about
an
hour
later,
he
was
based
on
our
investigation.
L
He
attempted
to
run
over
multiple
unhoused
individuals.
In
fact,
he
had
even
run
over
sleeping
bags
that
thank
God
were
not
didn't,
have
people
sleeping
in
them?
Some
very,
very
I,
don't
know
how
to
be
honest
with
you.
We
avoided
having
any
injuries
that
day,
but
he
was
charged
with
multiple
counts
of
criminal
attempt,
murder,
as
well
as
vehicular
homicide
attempted
and
he
is
in
jail
on
a
million
dollar
Bond
at
this
time
slide
pleas.
So
as
we
do
every
time
we
provide
you
an
update.
L
Unfortunately,
we
talk
about
bad
things
and
and
crimes
that
our
officers
have
had
to
investigate,
but
we
also
want
to
highlight
a
few
things
that
we've
done
in
the
community:
the
first
one
this
summer,
Chief
Harold
myself,
you
see
pictured
there
and
multiple
officers
engaged
with
Boulder
Pride.
It
was
a
great
day
lots
of
great
feedback
from
the
community,
as
you
see
great
pictures,
and
it
was
really
a
nice
time
there.
The
next
thing
we
did
over
the
summer
was
a
Youth
Academy.
L
If
you
see
that
picture,
the
majority
of
the
the
younger
teens
that
were
there
were
girls
and
they
wanted
to
come
and
learn
about
the
police
department.
They
went
through
a
couple
weeks
of
different
classes
and
trainings
see
what
it's
like.
It's
a
really
early
recruiting
tool,
but
we
had
a
great
time
with
these.
These
youth
that
had
really
positive
interactions.
Department,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
next
picture,
you'll
see
Library
story
time.
That
was
a
great
event.
L
We're
going
to
continue
to
do
those
next
in
August,
we
hosted
the
international
problem.
Oriented
policing
conference
you'll
see
there,
some
of
us
pictured
with
police
officers
from
all
over
the
place.
We
had
seven
different
countries
that
came
to
Boulder
mayor
Brockett
actually
did
the
opening
for
us
welcoming
everybody
to
Boulder
was
just
a
really
great
conference.
As
part
of
that
conference,
we
had
a
contingent
of
Ukrainian
police
officers
that
were
here
in
Boulder.
L
We
brought
them
into
the
police
department
for
a
couple
of
days
through
interpreters
were
able
to
sit
down
and
really
hear
their
compelling
stories,
and
it
was
so
impactful
for
so
many
of
our
officers.
We
sent
them
home
with
a
lot
of
Boulder,
PD
swag
and
we
hear
from
them
on
occasion.
It
just
was
really
insightful
to
hear
their
stories.
Next
you'll
see
a
picture
there.
We
had
National
Night
out
I
know
some
of
you
came
council
members.
L
We
really
appreciate
that,
despite
the
rain,
we
had
a
great
turnout
did
some
boo
with
our
partners
at
fire,
department,
osmp
and
other
City
entities.
We've
mentioned
before
K9
Astro
that
some
of
you
were
actually
at
her
promotion
ceremony
or
swearing
in
ceremony.
L
I
believe
I'm
happy
to
share
with
you
that
over
the
last
several
weeks,
Astro
and
her
Handler
have
gone
through
extensive
training
to
be
able
to
protect
explosives,
firearms
and
spent
shell
cases
ings
about
two
weeks
ago,
Astro
graduated
and
is
now
a
fully
certified
explosives
dog
in
the
state
of
Colorado.
L
She
has
actually
been
out
on
the
street
already
she's
been
out
at
the
Stampede
and
other
events
sniffing
the
area
where
we
have
a
high
public
amount,
just
ensuring
that
no
devices
are
there
to
harm
people
she's
a
great
PR
tool,
I'm
also
very
excited
to
share
that
we
chose
officer,
Caitlyn
Donahue,
to
be
Astros.
Handler
Caitlyn
happens
to
be
our
one
and
only
first
female
SWAT
operator.
She
was
also
du
through
a
competitive
process
chosen
to
be
Astros
Handler.
So
it's
a
really
great
combination.
L
There
then
last
I'll
talk
about
Spanish
first
dinner,
we
held
here
at
BPD
we
as
part
of
reimagining
policing
to
to
engage
better
with
our
Hispanic
Community.
We
had
a
dinner
here
where
we
invited
many
Hispanic
members
of
the
community
in
the
cool
thing
was
including
my
my
pretty
bad
Spanish.
The
entire
dinner
was
done
in
Spanish
and
we
interpreted
it
that
into
English.
We
had
great
feedback.
L
In
fact,
you
heard
from
some
of
the
folks
that
attended
that
dinner
at
our
reimagining
policing
meeting
that
we
presented
to
Council
next
slide.
Please
and
just
wanted
to
mention
this
last
slide,
because
last
week
was
women
in
policing
day
National
women
in
policing
day,
and
we
we
recently
put
together
this
great
graphic
that
just
highlights
all
of
the
the
great
women,
including
the
chief
Fronton
Center,
that
we
have
here
and
a
list
of
where
they
are
assigned.
L
As
you
know,
we
have
engaged
in
a
30x30
initiative
and
we
are
well
above
the
national
average,
and
we
just
took
some
time
to
celebrate
our
partners
here
as
well.
Believe
that's
the
last
slide.
L
Thanks,
oh
I
will
highlight
this
as
well.
This
I
forgot
this
been
here.
I
apologize
this
recent
article
last
week
published
in
the
Washington
Post,
so
a
great
article
for
highlighting
Boulder
Police
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
title
was
one
simple
fix
for
our
broken
policing
system
hire
more
women.
This
article
highlighted
several
of
our
officers.
They
came
out
from
Washington,
Post
and
rote
along
they're.
Getting
to
continue
the
story.
So
just
a
really
neat
story.
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
next
slide.
L
Please.
As
a
reminder,
our
crime
dashboard
link.
Is
there
it's
publicly
available.
You
can
look
at
crime
in
your
neighborhood.
You
can
do
all
kinds
of
new
things.
It's
interactive
that
allow
you
to
kind
of
get
a
better
glimpse
of.
What's
going
on
in
your
area.
With
that
note,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over.
B
Thank
you,
Chief
Harold
and
deputy
chief
Redfern
for
all
those
Illuminating
data
points
and
information.
I
have
a
question,
we'll
start
with
questions,
and
no
one
else
has
their
hand
up
yet
so
feel
free
to
Pile
in
behind
me,
everyone
mine
is
on.
It
also
came
up
under
the
the
mun
Court
a
session,
but
with
the
jail
overcrowding,
I
guess.
Maybe
a
multi-a
question
is
that,
are
they
using
the
same
volumes
as
they
did
preco
so
like
whatever
their
capacity
was
in
2019?
Is
that
the
same
capacity
as
now?
B
K
Yeah
I'll
I'll,
try
and
then
Steve
jump
in
if
I
got
the
numbers
wrong.
What
pre
precipitated
them
going
back
to
the
the
near
pandemic
jail
standards
that
they
had
was
they
reached
490
490
persons
in
the
jail
most
of
the
backup
is
because
of
the
state
hospital,
not
accepting
people
for
competency
trials,
and
then
people
I
believe
there's
between
60
and
80
people
that
are
in
the
jail
waiting
for
trials.
K
And
so
you
can
imagine
that's
a
backlog
of
people
in
the
jail,
but
when
it
reaches
490
it
just
becomes
unsafe
for
the
jail
staff.
So,
yes
to
answer
your
question
directly,
we
are
back
at
the
same
jail
standards
that
we
were
at
during
the.
B
K
No,
my
understanding
is
when
they
get
to
in
the
in
the
high
four
like
460
to
490,
has
always
been
considered
high
for
them
and
yeah,
so
they've
never
been
at
these
kind
of
numbers.
My
understanding
is
that
correct,
Steve.
L
So
they
have
a
lot
of
people
they
put
in
single
occupancy
and
they've
even
got
people
sleeping
on
the
floor,
and
so
that's
part
of
why
we
they
amount
of
people.
B
That,
thanks
for
clarifying
that
I
think
it.
B
It
probably
is
a
concern
for
all
of
us
when,
as
as
Tara
mentioned,
you
know,
you've
got
people
who
commit
a
stabbing
and
are
out
of
jail
shortly
after
that
I
we've
also
heard
about
things
like
people
with
several
fentanyl
pills,
getting
Ro
the
next
day
or
maybe
not
ever
getting
in
but
is
is
there
a
plan
for
some
of
the
more
serious
crimes
people
accused
of
serious
crimes
having
spots
in
jail,
or
is
that
just
something
that
is
going
to
be
the
way
it
is
going
forward
that
we
will
not
have
a
way
to
have
people?
H
B
K
They're
great
they're,
great
questions
and
we're
all
I
think
we're
all
so
frustrated
right
now
we
just
had
a
meeting
with
the
the
sheriff
yesterday
over
these
issues.
Michael
dhy
is
frustrated.
His
team
asked
for
high
bonds,
obviously
for
people
that
have
shown
repeat,
behavior
and
especially
people
that
are
violent.
You
see
that
some
of
the
judges
are
are
are
releasing
people
on
P
bonds
or
low
cash
bonds.
K
So
it's
a
frustrating
time
for
everyone
and
there's
multiple
reasons
why
this
is
occurring,
but
I
do
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
to
really
understand
the
complexity
of
what
we're
all
experiencing
right
now,
because
I
know
the
community
is
frustrated,
I'm
frustrated
and
it
is
just
a
an
interesting
time
and
the
drug
explosion
that
we're
seeing
it
it's.
It's
really
scary.
It
is
really.
B
Scary
thanks
so
I
will
just
add
for
that
future
conversation.
You
know
I
keep
saying
like
we're:
the
only
ones
who
can
fill
potholes
on
City
roads
like
nobody
else
is
allowed
to
do
that.
It's
the
same
thing
with
the
jail.
We
that's
a
county
purview
and
only
the
county
can
do
it.
So
when
you'll
have
that
conversation,
it
should
be
an
interesting
one,
but
only
they
can
do
it.
Okay,
next
up
is
Aaron
and
then
Nicole
and
then
Mark.
D
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
those
presentations
and
all
that
great
information
and
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
Chief,
frell
and
deputy
chief
Redfern
and
well
and
just
following
up
on
what
you
said,
Maris
like
I've,
talked
to
our
district
attorney
and
our
sheriff
and
heard
that
frustration
from
them
as
well,
right
and
I
I
do
understand
that
we'll
get
some
assistance
when
the
alternative
sentencing
facility
opens
hopefully
in
2024
or
something
like
that,
but
that's
that's
still
ways
off,
but
anyway
for
a
question.
D
Maris
you
mentioned
that
one
type
of
crime
that
has
gone
down
is
the
motor
vehicle
theft,
and
you
mentioned
attention
had
been
paid
in
that
area.
I,
wonder
if
you
just
might
address
briefly
like
what
attention
has
been
paid.
That's
helped
with
that
particular
problem.
K
Yeah
and
deputy
chief
can
chime
in
here
because
he's
responsible
for
all
the
resources
we
put
put
toward
motor
vehicle
theft.
Obviously,
motor
vehicle
theft
is,
is
a
very
dangerous
crime
and
what
happens
after
people
steal?
Cars
are
sometimes
scary
and
itself.
Violence,
usually,
is,
is
attached
to
the
motor
vehicle
theft.
So
we
did
put
a
lot
of
Education.
We
put
a
lot
of
State
resources
as
well.
We
had
State
investigators
come
down.
Do
education
as
well
as
help
us
with
some
Sting
operations
as
well.
K
We
also
had
a
education
campaign
at
our
high
location
locations
within
the
city,
where
we
would
actually
put
notices
on
vehicles
to
say
what
kind
of
cars
are
being
stolen
at
a
you
know,
at
a
high
rate,
and
then
we
have
you
know,
cameras
that
are
assisting
us
with
identifying
vehicle
theft
Vehicles
when
we
see
them
so
that
we
can
respond
and
try
to
intervene
and
when
cars
are
are
stolen.
K
So
it's
a
combination
of
all
of
those
things
and
Steve
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything,
but
those
are
the
main
factors
that
we
believe
is
driving
down
motor
vehicle.
Yes
and
maybe
Dr
Reinhardt
has
some
other
facts
as.
M
Well,
I
would
generally
Echo
the
things
that
Chief
Harold
has
said
with,
with
the
addition
of
just
the
importance
and
the
stress
that
were
putting
on
Partnerships
with
local
law
enforcement
agencies
and
that
that's
been
a
really
big
part,
I.
Think
of
our
response
and
understanding
of
the
problem
when
you
see
Vehicles
stolen
in
other
jurisdictions,
the
wind
up
in
Boulder
and
vice
versa.
It's
really
important
just
the
open
communication
and
and
Partnerships
that
we
have
to.
D
Foster,
that's
great
to
hear
to
the
collaboration
that's
going
on,
because
we
we
can't
solve
all
of
our
problems
alone
right
the
more
help
we
get
the
better
off.
We
do,
and
just
my
follow
or
other
question
on
that,
you
have
been
really
impressed
by
your
problem,
oriented
policing
approach
and
how
you're
tackling
problems
like
this.
It
was
I
really
appreciate
the
chance
to
say
a
few
words
at
the
conference
that
was
in
spiring
group
of
of
law
enforcement
professionals
from
across
the
world
all
working
on
these
problems
together.
D
So
what
what
US
is
so
we've
continue
to
see
increases
in
some
other
forms
of
crimes.
You
outlined
like
some
kinds
of
types
of
violent
crimes
and
property
crimes,
and
what
are
you
thinking
are
the
next
steps
for
applying
these
principles
to
start
bending
the
curve
down
on
those
types
of
crime
that
are
still
on
the
rise
to
get
that
movement
in
the
other
direction.
K
That's
a
great
question
mayor
and
we
really
we
do
appreciate
you
come
in
and
and
speak,
and
you
were
very
popular
with
the
Ukrainian
officers
because
of
your
Speech
and
in
their
language.
You
know
this
is
what
I'd
say
we
would.
We
are
looking
at
locations
that
we
know
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
high
calls
for
service
and
reported
crime.
It
really
comes
down
to
the
way
I
think
about
this
is
where
the
police
focus
and
have
the
sources
to
problem
solve.
K
We
see
reductions
in
crime,
and
so
whenever
I
hear
people
say
that
police
don't
count
or
they
don't
matter,
really
don't
understand
crime
principles,
because
I
can
tell
you
that
when
we
co
concentrate
and
we
go
through
a
problem
solving
process,
we
have
reductions
in
crime
right
now.
I
would
say
that
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
effectively
address
some
of
these
other
crimes
that
we're
seeing
and
I.
Don't
have
the
other
tools
working
with
me
right
now.
K
So
imagine
a
criminal
justice
system
right
now
that
is
just
not
working
holistically,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
crimes
and
I
think
the
Judge
alluded
to
this
in
his
presentation.
When
you
look
at
some
of
the
crimes
that
are
driving,
what
we're
seeing
and
theft
and
simple
assaults
and
menacing.
These
are
crimes
that
are
people
are
receiving
PR
bonds
and
there's
no
strategic
deterrence
on
some
of
these
crimes,
and
so
I
would
argue
with
the
other
mechanisms
in
the
criminal
justice
system
working.
K
We
are
really
in
a
game
of
high
visibility.
We
are
really
trying
to
control
crime
with
high
visibility
and
crime
prevention
and
asking
the
community
to
protect
themselves
and
work
with
us
on
crime
prevention
techniques,
which
I
think
we're
doing
a
really
good
job.
K
But
if
you
look
at
these
crimes
that
we're
seeing,
that
is
pushing
these
General
categories,
you
are
seeing
a
system
that
is
broken
and
you
are
seeing
a
system
that
has
High
drug
addiction,
High
mental
health
issues,
and
there
is
no
help
for
us
right
now,
so
we
really
need
to
focus
in
on.
We
really
need
some
transitional
housing.
K
We
really
need
drug
and
alcohol
addiction
services
and
we
need
deterrence
on
some
of
these
lower
level
crimes
and
that's,
what's
really
pushing
these
crime
rates
right
now
and
you
know
to
have
a
municipal
court
system
that
really
is
not
working
to
its
full
potential
I
mean
when
you
think
that
a
jail
just
says
the
municipal
warrant
system,
we're
not
accepting
that
that
is
so.
That
is
so
troubling
and
we
need
all
of
these
systems
to
work
in
Tandem
and
to
say
that
you
have
a
jail
that
won't
accept.
K
People
and
I've
said
this
time
and
time
again
you
have
to
break
the
opportunity
structure
of
repeat
offenders,
or
they
will
continue
to
offend
and
so
right
now
the
police
department
really
is
in
a
high
visibility.
Preventative
stance
with
not
a
lot
of
help
from
the
other
mechanisms
that
are
supposed
to
help
does.
Does
that
make
sense.
Mayor.
D
It
does
yeah
thanks
for
addressing
that
Chief
I
appreciate
it.
J
Thank
you
one
of
the
things
it
looked
like
judge,
Khan,
just
kind
of
popped
back
up
there
and
I
was
just
wondering
judge.
Do
you
have
any
any
comments
about
the
just
sort
of
Municipal
Court
in
relation
to
what
the
chief
just.
G
Said
I
I
I
agree
with
the
chief.
You
know,
I
met
with
the
deputy
chief
and
the
chief
and
we've
had
this
conversation
and
it
is
really
challenging.
We've
got
a
difficult
system
and
we
need
to
have
the
ability
to
enforce
our
laws
and
have
consequences
for
behavior
when
people
don't
come
to
court
and
that
repeat
Behavior,
so
it's
super
challenging
I
don't
want
to
you
can't
blame
the
sheriff.
J
Issue,
thank
you
very,
very
much
hearing
the
need
for
more
especially
mental
health
and
behavioral
health
treatment
kinds
of
services
tonight
U,
but
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
shift.
Maybe
shift
directions
a
little
bit.
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
hearing
a
lot
from
community
members
are
concerned,
concerns
about
increases,
perceived
increases
in
hate
crimes
and
wage
theft,
and
domestic
violence
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
we
have
any
data
on
those
crimes
and
how
they're
changing
over.
K
Time,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
I
know
we
have
data,
we
could
send
this
to
you,
council,
member
Spirit,
Dr
Reinhardt.
Are
you
prepared
to
talk
about
domestic
violence?
I
know
our
identity
theft
is,
is
also
seeing
significant
increases,
but
Dr
Reinhardt.
Do
you
have
any
hard
data
right
now
or
do
we
have
to
send
that
directly
to.
M
Council
I
think
it
would
be
best
to
wait
and
to
send
you
more
concrete
information.
What
I?
What
I
would
say
right
now
is
that
we
work
really
closely
with
the
safe
house
Progressive
Alliance
for
nonviolence.
We
were
close
to
wispan
and
we're
in
the
process
of
of
looking
further
into
how
domestic
violence
situations,
not
just
the
the
count
of
them,
but
the
severity
of
them,
how
they
change
over
time,
and
so
looking
at
The
lethality
assessment
protocols
and
and
and
getting
a
better
sense
of
that.
K
But
as
far
as
hate
crimes,
I
will
get
you
a
fiveyear
trend
on
hate
crimes.
It's
something
that
we
track
and,
and
we
obviously
put
a
lot
of
resources.
Investigative
resources
into
hate
crimes,
as
well
as
deputy
chief
Redfern,
has
a
identified
detectives
to
work
with
the
da
on
specialized
training
and
leaon
on
hate
crime.
Information.
We'
glad
to
give
you
all
that
information
council,
member
Spears.
L
Fine
I'm,
sorry
I
just
add
one
more
thing
is
that
we're,
as
of
three
months
ago,
I
sit
on
hate
tree
Colorado's
board,
so
we
meet
once
a
month
to
discuss
hate
crime
Trends
throughout
the
state
of
Colorado.
Part
of
that
is
my
role
as
lgbtq
eaon
we're
training
through
the
daon
office.
We
are
training
as
the
chief
set
detectives
that
will
specialize
in
those
complex
hate
crime
investigations
and
help
us
actually
better
track,
those
so
specific
to
hate
crimes.
J
Happen,
thank
you.
Yeah
I've
been
hearing
about
some
concerning
graffiti
that
community
members
are
finding,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
would
love
love
to
have
some
information
to
give
back
to
people
that
I
hear
talking
about
it.
My
excuse
me
my
other
question
is
that
it's
my
understanding
that,
when
we're
looking
at
folks
who
are
unhoused
typically,
the
people
who
are
also
unhoused
are
the
ones
who
are
most
often
the
victims
of
crimes
committed
by
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
I.
J
In
some
of
the
severe
incidents
we
saw
the
stabbing
the
truck
driving
through
Central
Park.
They
both
seem
like
they're
kind
of
in
that
direction,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
Is
it
the
case
that
most
people
who
are
victims
of
Crimes
by
people
who
are
unhoused
are
themselves.
K
Unhoused,
I
and
I
know
Dr
Reinhard
is
doing
a
big
analysis.
I
think
that
we
want
to
present
next
time
to
to
you
on
the
victim
offender
overlap
with
the
UNH
house,
but
I
would
say
that
a
significant
amount
of
the
crime
against
the
inous
is
also
committed
by
the
inous
and
what
I
really
want
to
understand,
more
and
I
think
through
our
research
grant
that
we're
working
on
is
I
want
to
understand.
You
know
women
are
often
the
UN
House.
Women
are
often
victimized
in
these
crimes.
K
So
I
want
to
understand
this
much
more
in
detail.
I
want
to
understand
the
connectivity
between
the
unhoused
in
our
community,
but
most
certainly
when
we
do
see
crimes
with
the
unhoused.
There
is
a
strong
victim
offender.
J
Overlap
great
thank
you.
Yeah
that'll
I
will
be
very
interested
in
those
data
as
well
about
gender
I
I
hear
that
a
lot
as
well
just
a
really
horrific
crimes
being
committed
against
some
of
the
women
who
are
living
on
our
streets
and
I.
Think
that
that
to
me
is
the
sort
of
information
that
can
be
really
helpful
from
a
council
policy
perspective
for
us
to
think
about.
J
Given
we
have
limited
resources
to
to
to
work
on
getting
people
housed
and
sheltered,
Are
there
specific
populations
or
groups
that
we
can
really
try
to
Target
with
the
resource
that
we
have
as
we're
thinking
about
how
to
move
forward
with
asking
for
additional
Resources
with
setting
up
additional
resources.
So
thank
you,
that'll
be
very
informative.
K
K
Right
now
and
deputy
chief
Redfern
and
I
are
starting
to
see
some
signs
of
human
trafficking,
and
this
is
often
seen
when
you
see
drug
trafficking
in
cities
and
unfortunately,
Steve
and
I
are
starting
to
see
some
early
warning
signs
that
we
are
starting
to
have
women
that
are
trafficked
by
men,
and
this
is
very
troubling
to
me,
and
it
is
usually
seen
because
we
have
a
huge
influx
of
drugs
and
drug
trafficking
and
it's
something
that
cannot
be
tolerated
at
all.
K
And
so,
when
I
speak
of
alignment,
we
really
need
to
be
aligned.
This
Criminal
Justice
System
needs
to
be
aligned
on
these
issues
because
I
have
seen
human
trafficking
and
the
devastation
of
this
in
other
cities
and
I
do
not
want
to
see
it
here
in
Boulder.
If
that's
helpful
as
well,
Council
memb.
J
J
So,
maybe
not
you
know
waiting
four
months
or
so,
but
if
some
of
this
data
does
become
available
sooner,
maybe
we
could
try
just
to
fit
it
in
and
see
if
there
is
some
additional
policy
measures
or
something
we
could
try
to
put
in
place
to
assist
with
this
I
agree
with
you,
I,
don't
think
any
any
of
us
want
to
see
any
increases
in
that.
So
thank
you
for
mentioning
it.
N
I
will
be
brief.
First,
thank
you,
police,
chief
Harold
and
deputy
chief
Rend
for
a
sobering,
but
in
insightful
presentation.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
One
of
our
community
members,
Jennifer
liovic,
wrote
To
Us
warning
of
the
dangers
of
a
new
drug
combo
called
Crank,
which
involves
fentanyl
with
other
drugs.
Are
your
statistics
on
fentanyl
use
and
increases
inclusive
of
those
cases,
or
is
that
a
separate
category
as
you
compute
that.
M
Reinhard,
so
so
so,
basically
to
answer
your
question
when
there
are
overdose
circumstances
that
involve
poly
drug
use-
or
they
involve
something
like
that,
like
some
kind
of
concoction
that
is
fentanyl
and
other
drugs,
or
something
like
that,
we
we
generally
do
our
best
to
document
that,
and
so
we
we
have
seen
situations
where
someone
will
overdose
with
a
a
combination
of
other
like
prescription,
medication
and
Fentanyl
or
or
other
kinds
of
things.
M
L
Council
member
wall
there's
a
couple
things
here
and
I.
Please
understand
I'm
not
trying
to
correct
you,
but
what
we
are
seeing
is
a
problem
with
a
newer
drug
called
Tran.
L
Can
you
how
about
now
all
right
little.
L
Okay,
I'm
not
sure
how
to
fix
that
I'll.
Just
try
to
talk
louder
Tran
is
is
xylazine.
If,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
look
it
up,
but
it's
basically
basically
a
compound
that
goes
a
compound
substance,
that's
mixed
in
with
Heroin
fentanyl
or
cocaine,
and
that's
why
it's
so
dangerous.
It's
it's
a
mixture
and
it
is
responsible
for
making
people
kind
of
like
the
effects
we
used
to
see
with
PCP
back
in
the
day,
and
so
it's
really
troubling.
N
Okay,
Are
there
specific
policy
changes
you'd
want
to
see
at
the
jail
that
would
free
up
more
beds.
I
mean
is:
is
there
any
solution
down
the
road
for.
K
This
well
I
think
I
think
the
first
thing
that
we
really
have
to
consider
is
and
I've
had
these
conversations
with
district
attorney,
dhy
I
think
that
they
need
to
get
the
people
awaiting
trial
on
a
fast
track
and
whether
that's
looking
at
bringing
in
visiting
judges
using
judges
that
could
listen
to
these
cases.
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
these
people
awaiting
trial
to
be
expedited.
K
You
know,
I
I,
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
some
of
the
reforms
that
came
after
George,
Floyd
I.
Think
that
you
know
I'd
love
to
work
with
council
member
Joseph
on
some
ways
to
at
least
have
people
give
an
opportunity
for
our
municipal
court
system
to
actually
hold
people,
and
so
they
can
figure
out
what
would
be
in
the
best
interest
of
that
person
and
I.
K
Think
right
now,
what
I'd
love
to
see
is
mandated
treatment
beds
that
judge
Khan
was
talking
about
that.
You
know,
judges
would
have
an
option
of
jail
or
treatment
and
I
think
that
we're
going
to
be
forced
eventually
to
take
a
look
at
that
it
it.
We
have
a
severe
problem
with
people
and
we
don't
know
what
comes
first
behavioral,
health
issues
or
drug
addiction
or
both
at
the
same
time,
but
we
have
really
little
resources
to
deal
with
that
and
I
think
that
we
need
to.
K
We
need
to
work
with
the
state.
So
we
have
you
know
60
people
that
are
waiting
competency
hearings,
that
they
need
treatment
at
the
State,
Mental
Health,
hospitals.
They
need
to
be
transferred
there
I
think
all
of
these
issues
need
to
be
looked
at
and
we
need
to
resol
resolve
them,
but
it's
not
going
to
just
be
Boulder.
It's
going
to
have
to
be
the
county
and
the
state
looking
at
these
issues.
K
At
the
same
time,
we
all
have
to
be
in
alignment,
because
we
have
some
serious
structural
issues
right
now
in
our
systems.
N
Are
there
any
other
things
that
you
would
that
you
need
as
a
department
other
than
this
sort
of
more
Global
structural
resolution?
That
would
help
you
do
your
job.
K
Well,
I
think,
as
we
presented
at
the
reimagine
plan,
I
think
that
it
it's
some
point.
We
need
to
take
a
hard
look
at
how
many
police
officers
we
have
for
the
work
that
they
have
to
do
that
workload.
Analysis
was
a
historical
look
back,
so
it
it
was
asking.
What
do
we
need
in
2020
because
of
the
complexity
of
work
that
changed
they
recommended
between
eight
and
15.
K
More
police
officers
need
to
be
assigned,
I
think
that
with
what
we
are
experiencing
now
at
some
point,
the
city,
man,
man
and
the
police
chief
will
have
to
make
a
recommendation
for
additional
police
officers,
and
that's
just
that's
factual
I
mean
at
some
point
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
the
additional
workload.
K
E
All
right,
ter
first
one
is
quick:
what
is
the
difference
between
simple
assault
and
aggravated
assault.
K
Again,
yeah
simple
assault
means
that
there
were
minor
injuries
without
a
weapon
and
aggravated
assault
usually
mean
serious
injuries,
and
there
was
a
weapon
used
as
well,
so
whether
it
was
a
knife
or
a
gun
or
a
car.
E
M
Yeah
yeah,
absolutely
so
bicycle
theft
is
down
right
now
this
year,
I
think
it's
also
worth
pointing
out
that
we,
the
Boulder
Police
Department,
engages
with
communication
and
engagement
to
engage
the
community,
basically
on
a
monthly
basis
about
bicycle
theft,
specifically,
and
so
as
recently
as
August,
we
did
some
interviews
like
with
Daily
Camera
to
to
let
folks
know
about
some
of
the
hotspot
locations
encouraging
the
community
to
continue
to
use
ucks
when
they
can,
and
then
let
letting
folks
know
that
if
you
have
a
bicycle,
it
could
be
really
helpful
to
to
document
the
serial
number
so
that
if
your
bike
is
lost
or
stolen,
it's
it's
easier
to
recover.
E
So
is
this
there
anything
this
similar
to
Mark's
question?
Is
there
anything
the
city
can
do,
for
instance,
in
the
way
we
have
people
locking
up
their
bikes
downtown
or
anything
else
you
can
think
think
of
that
would
be
something
the
city
could
accomplish
for
that.
To
that.
M
The
the
the
one
thing
I
was
I
was
going
to
add,
is
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
the
availability
right
now
of
like
lockers
or
other
kinds
of
storage
for
bicycles
when
people
are
in
businesses
downtown
but
like
that's
an
example
of
something
that
we're
in
the
process
of
looking
into.
C
D
M
Available
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
that
available
as
a
percentage
tonight
for
you,
but
I'm
I'm
comfortable,
providing
that
information
this
upcoming
week,
along
with
some
of
the
other
information
about
domestic
violence
and
otherwise.
B
It
all
right
going
once
twice
for
other
questions
and
I.
Don't
think
we
have
any
questions
to
answer
for
you
is
that
right,
Chief
Harold!
This
wasn't
one
where
we
have
things
we
need
to
answer.
Nur
is
saying
no
okay!
Thank
you!
So
much
all
of
you
for
your
presentations,
Dr,
yeah,
Dr,
reinoud,
art,
Chief,
Deputy,
Chief,
really
appreciate
it
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
nura
for
our
to
introduce
our
next
topic.
Thank.
A
You
so
much
I
take
that
not
that
they're
wanting
to
get
off
screen,
but
rather
than
to
give
up
the
stage
to
this
topic
right
so
without
further
Preamble
I'll
ask
Kurt
to
introduce
himself
and
kick
us
off.
Thank
you,
council.
O
Member
good
evening,
Council
excited
we
got
to
the
the
start
time
here,
so
I'm,
Kurt,
fhab,
director
housing,
Human
Services,
and
this
is
our
annual
update
to
to
Council
on
homeless
programs
and
services
and
we're
going
be
covering
a
number
of
topics
tonight.
But
before
I
start
I
wanted
just
wanted
to
tell
a
very
short
story.
O
So
often
we
focus
on
exits
out
of
homelessness.
In
this
homeless
update.
We
talked
a
lot
about
housing
housing,
our
exits
into
housing.
Tonight
our
focus
is
really
going
to
be
more
on
a
number
of
services
that
have
been
started
over
the
last
year
and
some
that
are
in
process
of
of
commencing
over
the
next
few
months
as
well.
K
O
Often
confused
use
that
it's
only
housing,
housing
first
really
needs
the
supportive
and
wraparound
services
to
be
successful,
and,
as
we
talk
about
getting
individuals
housed,
I'll
just
mention
that
it
takes
a
multitude
of
organizations
to
make
that
happen.
Coordination
between
case
work
case
workers
and
mental
health
providers
and
the
hot
team.
O
It's
almost
always
a
team
process
and
getting
people
out
of
Housing
and
two
individuals
that
I'll
mention
that
were
were
highlighted
in
our
our
memos
that
a
couple
that
was
living
along
Goose
Creek
under
Foothills
and
they
were
using
heroin
and
opioids
and
through
a
lot
of
effort,
we
were
able
to
get
them
housed
through
the
partners
that
we
work
with.
O
They
were
able
to
get
on
methodone
treatment
and
and
are
now
employed
and
also
re,
been
able
to
get
back
POS.
You
know
the
sort
of
the
the
possession
of
their
of
their
two
children,
which
they
now
care
for.
It's
a
tremendous
story
about
how
services
and
housing
can
really
work
in
in
collaboration,
so
I'd
like
to
introduce
Megan
newon,
who
will
be
doing
the
presentation
tonight.
I've
got
a
couple.
Other
staff
members
here,
Vicky,
Ebner
and
Karen
Armstrong
Karen-
is
here.
O
If
we
have
questions
later
on
in
the
in
the
evening
related
to
the
supports
we
give
to
to
keep
people
in
housing
and
to
keep
them
from
homelessness,
and
with
that
I
will
hand
it
over
to
to
Megan.
P
P
Please
there's
these
are
the
two
questions
we
posed
in
the
memo
and
are
po
posing
as
part
of
this
presentation
and
we'll
come
back
to
them
at
the
end,
but
it's
basically
looking
for
support
in
the
new
programming
that
I'll
discuss
in
just
a
moment
as
well
as
Direction,
around
alternative
Sheltering,
safe
outdoor
spaces,
palet
Sheltering.
It's
got
many
names
at
this
point,
but
we'll
get
to
that
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
as
well
and
so
follow
up
on
that
question
as
well.
Next
slide,
please
I
wanted
to
start
by
kind
of
setting.
P
The
stage
like
as
we've
talked
about
before.
Homelessness
is
a
nationwide
problem,
a
Statewide
problem,
a
metrowide
problem,
and
so
in
all
of
those
Concepts
on
the
national
state.
P
The
state
stage,
the
Denver
metro
stage
and
the
boulder
stage
homelessness
is
on
the
rise,
particularly
unsheltered
homelessness,
Is,
On,
The,
Rise
Denver
in
its
Point
time
count
saw
a
30%
Denver
Metro,
so,
which
includes
Boulder,
saw
30%
increase
in
folks
experiencing
homelessness
in
January's
point
in
time
count
and,
as
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
Colorado
ranks
14
as
a
state
for
the
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
per
thousand
and
I.
P
Think
I
just
want
to
start
with
the
context
of
there's
much
work
to
be
done,
and
it
needs
to
be
done
across
the
community
across
the
state
and
and
and
Across
the
Nation.
It's
difficult
to
do
as
as
one
Community
next
slide.
P
Please
so
the
summer
point
in
time
count
when
I
was
here
last
year
it
was
recommended
that
we
do
a
count
in
the
summer.
Traditionally
the
count
is
conducted
in
January
and
that's
required
Ed
by
Hud,
and
so
the
entire
metro
area
participates
in
account,
but
there
was
it's
thought
that
there
would
be
some
information
gained
if
we
also
did
a
count
in
the
summer
anecdotally.
We
know
that
we
typically
see
mo
more
folks
in
the
summer,
and
so
there
was
the
desire
to
figure
out.
P
If
that
is
actually
true
to
see
Trends
year
over
year
oftentimes
in
the
summer
we
find
ourselves
saying
man
it
feels
like
there
are
a
lot
more
people,
but
it's
hard
to
determine
there're,
just
a
lot
more
people
from
a
couple
months
ago
or
if
it
was
truly
a
lot
more
people.
So
we
did
our
first
count,
this
past,
July,
sixth
or
July
26.
We
did
used
a
the
same
tool
that
we
used
in
January,
so
we
could
do
some
cross
comparison
over
time.
We
focused
on
unsheltered
homelessness.
P
We
do
have
a
number
of
the
folks
experiencing
homelessness
inside
the
shelters,
but
we
only
surveyed
the
folks
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness.
It
was
a
countywide
collaborative
so
Longmont,
as
well
as
the
other
municipalities
in
the
county,
participated
we're
looking
to
do
this
year
year
after
year,
and
so
we
can
look
at
different
Trends
and
what
is
also
nice
about
this
count
is
the
count.
P
That's
done
in
January
is
typically
facilitated
at
the
Metro
level,
so
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
control
over
the
data,
but
this
count
was
done
locally
and
so
we're
able
to
control
a
lot
of
the
data
and
be
able
to
process
it
and
really
and
do
some
data
digging.
P
So
some
of
the
things
I'll
point
out
on
this
slide
is
you'll
see
the
the
chart
on
the
left
shows
a
comparison
between
the
winter,
the
January
count
and
the
July
count,
and
what
was
kind
of
super
interesting
and
I
I
will
caveat
in
that
it
was
just
single
adults
in
the
city
of
Boulder,
both
the
unsheltered
number,
as
well
as
folks,
staying
at
Boulder,
shelter,
the
lodge
and
together,
but
the
number
was
near
identical
it.
P
Just
that
we
had
more
folks
in
the
shelter
in
the
winter
and
unsheltered
in
the
summer,
which
is,
is
somewhat
predictable,
but
it
was
very
interesting
that
the
number
really
remain
stable,
you'll
also
notice,
on
the
top
right
hand
of
your
screen
that
again
most
of
the
folks,
we
all
of
the
folks
we
surveyed
were
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness
and
so
you'll
see
that
most
of
them
are
chronically
homeless,
which
means
that
they
have
some
sort
of
disabling
condition
and
they've
been
homeless
for
a
year
or
more,
and
then
the
final
chart
there
on
the
bottom
kind
of
just
tells
where,
when
we
ask
the
question
where
people
first
experienc
homelessness,
you'll
see,
the
orange
is
Colorado,
the
yellow
is
Boulder,
and
then
the
blue
is
outside
Boulder,
so
kind
of
that
even
split
across
the
board.
P
Please
I'd
like
to
take
some
time
tonight
to
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
the
programs
that
either
recently
started
that
we're
currently
trying
to
implement
or
we're
going
to
implement
in
the
near
future.
There's
a
lot
going
on
on,
and
so
as
Kurt
mentioned,
we'd
like
to
highlight
all
a
lot
of
the
services
that
are
getting
brought
online
to
try
to
meet
gaps
and
needs
that
we've
identified
in
the
community
next
slide,
please
the
first
one
or
the
first
and
second
one
that
I'd
like
to
discuss
kind
of
go
hand.
Inand.
P
P
Most
of
this
is
done
nationally
by
Hud
and
then
even
the
state
has
some
resources,
but
we
are
kind
of
unique
in
that
we
provide
local
vouchers
to
kind
of
fill
a
a
gap
and
so
oftentimes
the
vouchers
that
are
provided
by
the
federal
government
or
the
state
come
with
with
certain
restrictions,
and
so
the
intention
behind
the
local
vouchers
is
to
be
able
to
really
problem
solve
and
fill
the
gaps
where
those
vouchers
may
have
some
and
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
out
comes
of
that
program.
P
It's
been
in
existence
since
2018
and
we've
kind
of
been
ramping
it
up
ever
since.
To
now
that
we
have
a
total
of
48
vouchers
being
used
in
the
community,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
exits,
but
what
is
truly
impressive
is
the
5%
return
to
homelessness
or
unknown
that
that
is
and
to
tie
it
in
that'll
oftentimes.
P
The
folks
that
we
use
those
vouchers
for
have
significant
histories
in
the
community
and
so
that
a
very
impressive
outcome,
but
I
I
paired
it
with
our
the
number
two
here,
which
is
the
shelter
unit
Acquisitions,
which
are
units
that
the
boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless
is
acquiring
to
help
meet
the
needs
of
folks
who
are
struggling
to
find
a
landlord
who
will
rent
to
them
in
the
community,
so
kind
of
a
a
landlord
of
blast.
Resorts
and
oftentimes.
P
These
two
programs
are
are
are
paired
together
to
really
try
to
meet
the
needs
and
to
to
cut
down
red
tape
for
folks
f
that
we
can
provide
both
the
voucher
as
well
as
the
unit
for
folks
and
and
we've
been
able
to
end
homelessness
for
some
of
the
folks
that
have
been
experiencing
it
for
quite
some
time
in
the
community.
With
these
two
programs
next
slide.
P
Please
this
one
is
building
home
which
I've
talked
about
before
we
talked
about
the
startings
of
it
last
year.
It
is
now
fully
implemented.
It's
arpa,
funed,
City,
arpa
dollars
that
we're
using
to
to
implement
this
program
and
it's
a
two-part
program.
Both
parts
are
Geared
for
folks
who
are
either
about
to
be
housed
or
were
recently
housed
and
have
been
that
folks
might
think
need
a
little
bit
extra
support
on
top
of
the
case
management
they're
already
getting
in
the
housing.
P
So
the
goal
of
this
program
was
that
5%
that
weren't
able
to
remain
housed
in
the
programs
that
I
just
spoke
about
that.
We
would
create
programming
that
might
help
them
maintain
their
housing,
and
so
we
partnered
with
two
agencies
in
the
area
to
provide
the
services
the
what
first
one
is
peer
support
and
that's
operated
by
Focus
re-entry,
and
these
are
folks
who
have
lived
experience.
P
These
are
folks
that
have
gone
through
the
system
and
we're
pairing
them
with
folks
who
are
new
newly
housed
in
an
effort
for
them
to
help
them
walk
through
the
system
to
help
create
Community
to
help
give
them
a
trusted
ear.
To
ask
the
questions
that
they
may
not
be
comfortable,
asking
a
case
manager
about
they
they're
doing
group
work
and
it's
really
exciting.
P
I
was
telling
Kurt
that
Molly
was
telling
me
the
focus,
re-entry
executive
director
that
they
were
really
interested
in
the
Voodoo
Donuts,
and
so
they
had
a
group
and
they
brought
them
all
Voodoo
Donuts,
and
so
it's
it's
little
things
in
the
community
that
everyone
in
the
community
is
excited
about,
that
they're
able
to
connect
them
with
and
then
the
second
piece
of
the
program
is
the
housing
retention
team
that
is
operated
by
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless
and
it's
more
Clinical
Services.
P
So
it's
clinicians
and
a
and
a
nurse
who
are
able
to
bring
services
to
the
individual
in
their
home,
and
so
we
often
hear
that
folks
struggle
to
connect
to
outpatient
services.
They
struggle
to
maintain
appointments,
and
so
this
part
of
the
project
is
really
meant
to
bring
these
Services
directly
to
them
to
help
them
stabilize
in
their
home
with
the
treatment
or
whatever
they
may
need.
It's
very
indivi
individualized
person
by
person
next
slide,
please
the
rest
fit
Center.
P
So
we've
been
hearing
for
the
last
couple
years
of
a
gap
in
their
services
of
folks
who
May
no
longer
need
Hospital
services,
but
also
need
someplace
to
recuperate
they're
not
able
to
they
need
24-hour
supervision,
or
even
we've
heard
folks
who
are
scheduled
for
surgery
but
they're
not
able
to
to
get
the
surgery
because
they
don't
have
a
stable
place
to
sleep.
P
The
night
before
or
the
day
before,
to
get
the
appropriate
rest
and
so
the
rest
fit
Center
was
a
application
that
we
put
into
the
state
in
a
transformational,
homelessness,
Grant
and
we
are
awarded
$2
million,
so
we're
working
on
implementing
that,
hopefully
by
early
next
year,
but
the
goal
is
to
provide
24-hour
Sheltering
as
well
as
some
Medical
Care
for
folks,
typically
leaving
the
hospital,
but
also
like
I,
said
before.
Maybe
it's
before
they
go
into
surgery
and
then,
after
when
they
come
out.
P
So
we're
really
EXC
excited
about
that
program.
We've
we've
heard
from
both
Clinica
and
and
bch
that
this
is
a
need
in
the
community,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
try
to
meet
that
need
next
slide.
P
Please
project
recovery
and
tribe
that
got
mentioned
earlier
by
judge
Conan,
but
this
is
a
program
that
they've
been
providing
outpatient
services
at
the
county
site
by
since
late
last
year,
but
they
are
on
the
cusp
of
opening
opening
their
first
recovery
home
with
a
second
Recovery
Home
in
the
county.
Soon
to
follow,
I've
heard
that
hopeful
they
be
able
to
open
the
second
home
by
the
end
of
the
year.
P
But
this
is
one
of
those
things
where
they've
been
providing
outpatient
services
but,
as
we
know,
folks
who
maybe
experiencing
homelessness,
are
unable
to
access
those
Services
effectively
because
they
aren't
stabilized
and
so
by
pairing.
It
with
a
sober
living
home
folks
are
were
able
to
meet
the
needs
of
both
getting
them
stable
and
connecting
them
with
treatment.
P
The
program
is
typically
between
six
and
nine
months
and
they're
provided
wraparound
Services
treatment
services
and
then
even
when
they
exit
their
provided
follow-up
services
and
so,
while
they're
in
the
program
they're
working
with
them
to
to
probably
from
the
time
they
moveed
in,
to
create
a
plan
on
what
they're
going
to
do
when
they've
completed
the
program.
Next
slide,
please:
this
is
the
partnership
between
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless
and
and
Boulder
Community
Health
that
I've
highlighted
before.
But
it's
it's
getting
great
outcomes.
P
So
I
thought
it
important
to
highlight
again.
This
program
began
in
2021
as
a
partnership
between
those
two
agencies
in
a
effort
to
address
folks
who
were
high
utilizers
of
the
emergency
department,
so
individuals
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
who
weren't
connected
to
outpatient
care
and
weren't,
stable
and
so
we're
effectively
using
the
emergency
department
on
a
very
regular
basis.
P
They
started
identifying
those
folks
and
referring
them
to
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless,
who
has
a
dedicated
case
manager
to
help
these
individuals
through
the
process
through
getting
them
housed,
and
so
he
they
were
able
to
engage
with
39
clients
over
the
last
year
and,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
slide,
have
an
84%
reduction
in
emergency
department
visits
once
the
individual
is
housed
and
able
to
get
connected
to
more
appropriate
outpatient
services.
P
And
so
this
is
one
of
those
programs
that
two
partners
in
the
community
were
able
to
identify
a
gap
and
come
together
to
try
to
fill
that
cap
and
and
has
been
able
to
do
it
quite
successfully.
Next
slide.
P
Please
the
high
utilizer
program,
this
one
judge
Khan
referenced
a
little
bit
earlier,
but
this
has
been
going
on
for
about
the
last
year
and
it
and
it's
similar
to
what
we
talked
about.
What
I
just
talked
about
with
the
hyzer
the
emergency
department.
But
this
one
is
more
focused
currently
on
the
justice
system,
maybe
in
the
future
we'll
be
able
to
expand
it
into
high
utilizers
of
Detox,
Services
or
high
utilizers
of
the
emergency
department
and
though
MHP
and
bch
are
already
Partners
in
the
work.
P
But
because
of
data
sharing
issues,
we
started
with
the
Justice,
the
Justice
folks,
and
so
the
leadership
team
is
made
up
of
leaders
from
the
county,
the
city,
the
justice
system
and
the
health
system,
and
they
are
working
to
remove
barriers,
systemic
barriers
that
that
we
encounter
or
those
individuals
encounter
regularly,
there's
also
an
operations
team
which
is
made
up
of
Frontline
staff
from
agencies
with
and
in
similar.
Both
the
city.
The
county.
P
Un
court
is
there
as
well
as
some
of
the
county,
Behavioral
Health
folks,
Boulder
shelter,
focus
free-entry,
and
so
it's
a
really
collaborative
effort
where
we
go
Name
by
name
on
the
people
on
the
for
the
folks
who
are
on
this
list
and
create
care
plans
for
each
one
of
them.
But
at
the
same
time,
we've
been
identifying
systemic
barriers
to
raise
up
to
the
leadership
group
to
help
see
if
they
can
help
us
break
down
some
of
those
barriers.
P
We
created
a
proposal
working
to
address
some
of
the
common
barriers
that
we
saw
across
many
people
on
the
list.
The
group
is
still
in
the
planning
phase
and
we
haven't
identified
any
funding
for
the
project
yet,
but
we
did
create
a
proposal
and
you
guys
were
Council
was
given
an
information
packet
earlier
this
month
to
kind
of
update
on
that
on
this
work.
Next
slide,
please
the
day,
Services
Center
and
so
we've
had
some
some
setbacks,
as
well
as
some
exciting
news
in
just
the
last.
P
You
know
few
weeks,
the
site
that
we
had
identified
as
on
fulsome
the
owner
and
developer
has
decided
to
go
in
a
different
direction
with
that
property,
and
so
we
are
now
on
the
hunt
for
another
property,
and
so
that
has
been
a
bit
of
a
set
setback.
P
But
some
good
news
in
the
project
is
that
we
did
apply
to
the
state
for
some
f
for
some
funding
to
expand
the
services
that
we'd
be
able
to
provide
at
the
center,
and
so
initially
we
were
looking
at
providing
basic
need,
Services,
as
well
as
service
navigation
services,
so
a
place
where
Community
Partners
could
come
in
and
meet
with
folks
and
and
provide
those
those
navigation
services,
but
with
the
additional
money
from
the
state,
we
are
now
now
be
able
to
provide
some
Treatment
Services,
as
well
as
some
housing,
both
supportive,
the
Supportive
Services,
as
well
as
the
subsidies,
so
the
voucher
that
goes
along
with
the
housing.
P
So
we
just
found
that
out
last
week,
and
so
we're
really
excited
to
be
able
to
to
provide
a
very
comprehensive
program
when
we
can
get
it
up
and
running
next
slide,
please.
So
those
were
all
the
kind
of
new
Innovative
system,
filling
programs
that
we
have
been
working
on,
but
I
also
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
existing
program
in
the
collaboration
that's
happening
within
within
the
system.
That's
also
important
to
highight
next
slide,
please.
P
So
this
slide
is
very
busy,
but
intentionally
so
it
lists
providers,
agencies,
programs
in
the
community
that
coordinate
services
on
quite
literally
a
daily
basis.
The
Outreach
Staffing
group
meets
weekly
to
coordinate
care
for
those
folks
who
are
living
unsheltered
to
make
sure
there
there's
not
overlap
in
people
providing
services
to
coordinate
who's
going
to
take
who
to
who,
what
appointment,
so
they
meet
formally
weekly
but
I'm
sure
talking
daily.
We
have
case
conferencing
every
other
week
where
we
review
a
buy
name
list
to
match.
People
with
housing.
P
I
also
would
highlight
on
this
Slide
the
number
of
system
cross
systems,
collaboration
that
is
happening.
You
see,
Clinica,
you
see
hot.
You
see
the
20th
judicial,
you
see,
you
know
it
goes
across
the
system.
I
was
reading
some
stats
from
hot
just
the
other
day,
and
they
noted
that
they
coordinated
with
33
unique
entities
to
coordinate
care
for
folks
that
they're
working
with
and
so
I
think.
P
This
is
a
unique
piece
of
Boulder
that
we
have
such
a
high
level
of
cooperation
and
coordination
to
serve
the
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
community
next
slide,
please.
This
is
where
we'd
like
to
highlight
our
C
continuing
censuring
racial
Equity,
so
I'll
walk
through
this
table
a
little
bit,
because
there
are
some
caveats:
we're
continuously
looking
at
the
data
we
find
it
very
important,
and
so
both
National
Data
state
level
data,
local
data
all
show
an
over
representation
of
minorities
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
P
But
we
wanted
to
pull
some
local
data
to
be
able
to
share
with
you
guys
so
you'll
see
on
the
left
side
of
the
table.
The
Boulder
County
General
population
and
you'll
see
the
over
over
representation
that
we
see
of
folks
who
are
entering
the
system
through
coordinated
entry.
I
will
caveat
the
exits
in
that
they
are
strictly
bould
or
shelter
for
the
homeless
housing
exits.
There
are
folks
who
exit
the
system
through
Mental,
Health,
Partners
or
together
that
aren't
captured
here
because
of
privacy
issues.
P
P
This
the
tool
that
was
being
used,
that
pretty
much
Nationwide
has
given
some
some
unequal
outcomes
and
so
we're
working
on
that
tool
as
a
as
a
Metro
level
to
try
to
get
some
more
more
equal
outcomes
in
some
of
the
matching
to
housing
and
the
exits
for
homelessness.
Next
slide,
please.
This
I
wanted
to
highlight
all
the
braiding
like
I
did
on
the
slide
before
where
it
was
all
the
coordination
of
the
providers.
P
P
If
the
city
of
Boulder
provide
some
funding
or
Boulder
County
provides
funding,
and
you
can
see
that
almost
all
all
three
of
those
provide
funding
across
the
board
and
so
oftentimes
that
makes
for
a
complicated
system
each
one
of
those
funding
streams
comes
with
priorities,
and
so
the
community
does
an
excellent
job
in
trying
to
braid
and
blend
that
funding
to
best
meet
the
needs
of
the
folks
and
to
provide
the
services
that
that
we've
identified
as
being
gaps
in
the
community
as
well.
P
Next
slide,
please.
This
is
our
housing
and
Human
Services
planned
expenditures
for
2024
and,
as
you
can
see,
kind
of
what
I
just
talked
through
on
the
last
Slide.
P
The
city
is
investing
pretty
much
across
the
board
with
the
day
Services
Center
Outreach,
coordinated
entry,
housing
supports
and
then
the
retention
is
the
building
home
program
that
I
talked
about
earlier,
with
a
total
invest
of
11
million
11.6
million,
and
then
we
also
included
some
of
the
key
Investments
that
we
have
this
year
with
tribe
and
the
in
the
unit
acquisition,
as
well
as
the
hotels
that
we're
supporting
in
the
family
work.
P
But
it's
a
significant
investment,
and
so
this
slide
does
a
real
good
job
kind
of
spelling
out
where,
where
we're
spending
our
money
and
how
we're
trying
to
spread
it
across
the
system
to
focus
on
on
multiple
interventions
for
folks
next
slide,
please.
This
is
another
program
that
we
often
highlight
the
city
funds
and
Outreach
team
through
Boulder
shelter,
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless,
It's
relatively
new.
It's
just
started
since
coid
and
I
think
this
was
well.
P
This
was
our
intention
to
bring
services
to
folks,
so
we
know
that
some
folks
are
unable
or
unwilling
to
access
the
shelter.
And
so
this
is
the
Outreach
team
goes
out
into
the
community
goes
out
into
the
encampments
to
build
relationships
and
then
connect
them
with
Services.
As
you
can
see,
in
the
last
year,
they've
had
close
to
2,000
interactions
with
600
Unique
Individuals
20
mental
health
referrals.
They
assist
people
with
transportation
and
they
also
they
also
participate
in
that
weekly
meeting
with
other
Outreach
providers
to
coordinate
the
services.
P
So
some
folks
might
have
case.
Managers
through
the
municipal
report
or
through
hot
hot,
might
be
helping
them,
and
so
that
group
all
gets
together
to
try
to
to
determine
who's
going
to
do
what
and
really
it's
a
a
very
Village
collaborative,
and
it's
it's
very
impressive
to
witness
next
slide.
P
P
Haven
Ridge,
which
is
Mother
house
in
the
lodge,
has
has
moved
to
a
larger,
shared
location
and
they're
rebranding,
so
U,
mother,
mother
house,
at
Haven,
Ridge
and
The
Lodge
at
Haven
Ridge,
but
with
the
intention
to
go
to
Haven
Ridge,
have
moved
to
have
been
able
to
collocate
for
some
efficiencies,
they're
getting
settled
in,
and
so
they
were
telling
us
this
morning
that
they
they're
attention
for
the
rest
of
the
year
is
kind
of
get
settled
in
and
then
hopefully
in
the.
P
Be
able
to
expand
services
both
the
number
of
folks
they're
able
to
serve
as
well
as
the
services
they're
able
to
provide
folks,
and
so
that
is
really
exciting.
News
for
the
Sheltering
system
and
also
to
pair
along
with
that
together,
had
received
a
grant
to
both
renovate
and
expand
the
source
which,
which
is
the
Youth
Shelter
and
so
they'll,
be
doing
that
in
the
near
future.
P
With
the
same
intention
of
expanding
both
both
the
number
of
youth
they're
able
to
serve
as
well
as
the
services
they're
able
to
to
provide
in
that
space
and
so
oftentimes,
we
we
around
homelessness,
talk
about
all
the
challenges
and
so
I
always
like
it
in
these
presentations,
where
I
get
to
highlight
some
of
the
the
great
things
that
our
partners
in
the
community
are
doing,
that.
We're
really
excited
about
next
slide.
P
P
It's
a
very
large
space
and
they're
they're,
going
to
be
able
to
provide
they're,
consolidating
a
lot
of
the
care
that
they're
already
providing
in
the
community
and
then
they're
adding
a
new
psychiatric
urgent
case
Clinic,
which
includes,
as
you
can
see
on
here
case
management
therapy,
nursing
medical
providers,
and
so
all
the
talk
from
in
the
last
two
presentations
about
the
need
for
treatment
in
the
community.
We're
hopeful
and
excited
that
this
will
be
a
great
addition
to
that.
O
Work
Megan
before
you
go
off
that
slide,
can
I
just
insert
so
I.
Think
if
you
remember
one
or
two
things
from
this
present
presentation
tonight,
I
hope
you'll.
Remember
some
of
the
expanded
programs
of
our
partners.
You
just
heard
about
together
and
Haven
Ridge.
O
This
and
many
of
the
some
of
the
council
members
and
some
community
members
over
the
last
couple
months
have
taken
trips
up
to
Fort
Collins,
to
see
a
facility
that
has
recently
been
completed
with
Comprehensive
Behavioral,
Health,
Services,
inpatient,
Services
and
they've
all
come
back
very
impressed
with
this.
O
The
and
everyone's
saying.
Why
don't
we
do
that
in
Boulder,
County?
Well,
Mental
Health
Partners
went
out
and
got
a
grant
recently,
and
so
they
they're
actually
implementing
exactly
what
you
saw
in
Fort
Collins.
The
facility
in
Fort
Collins
is
55,000
square
feet.
This
facility
is
45,000,
Square
ft,
so
very
significant
CL
in
size
and
and
the
integration
services,
so
I
know
one
of
the
questions
will
be
as
it
was
in
the
previous
presentation.
What
can
we
do
to
help
I?
O
Think
we,
as
a
county
city
and
state,
are
really
going
to
have
to
continue
to
put
in
resources
to
make
sure
that
that
facility
is
well
staffed
and
and
well
supported,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
game
changer
for
our
Community
I
know
they're
going
to
be
opening
I
believe
in
the
next
four
or
five
months,
and
we'll
look
over
this
next
year
to
see
how
this
could
positively
impact
our
community.
So
thanks
for
letting
me
interrupt,
Megan
I,
just
I
couldn't
help
myself
but
I'll.
P
Thank
you
next
slide.
Please
wanted
to
take
some
time
to
discuss
the
winter
weather
plan
and
so
I'll
kind
of
walk
walk
through
this.
This
table
a
little
bit
because
I
can
I,
it
can
get
a
little
confusing,
but,
as
you
can
see,
at
the
top,
boulder
shelter
has
a
capacity
dayto
day
for
160
individuals
to
stay.
P
P
We
have
been
struggling
to
find
hotels
willing
to
work
with
the
program,
and
so
we
are
currently
working
now
with
Boulder
shelter
for
the
homeless
to
identify
a
hotel
and
hopefully
be
able
to
expand
the
rooms
or
the
number
of
beds
this
winter
as
well
by
20,
but
even
if
that
in,
in
addition
to
that,
they
have
agreed
to
go
up
to
180
on
critical
weather
nights.
P
So
you
can
kind
of
see
the
top
part
of
it
is
the
boulder
shelter
piece
with
both
the
shelter
and
the
hotels
on
a
normal
winter
night
that
doesn't
meet
critical
weather
standards.
We
would
either
be
at
160
or
180
with
the
hotels
or
on
a
critical
weather
night.
We
could
be
at
180
or
200
and
then
we
add
the
other
shelters
in
to
the
equation
where
the
source
operates.
P
Every
night
with
up
to
14
beds
and
the
Lodge
operates
on
normal
nights
with
20
beds
and
then
typically
we'll
add
five
in
severe
weather
overflow,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
see
the
total
number
there
at
the
bottom
on
the
range
of
on
contingent
upon
whether
we
get
the
hotels
or
whether
and
whether
it's
a
critical
weather
night.
But
we
are
looking
for
ways
to
supplement
the
program
going
on,
because
the
both
the
arpa
funding
won't
be
available.
P
Longterm,
as
well
as
the
hotel
rooms,
have
been
a
has,
have
been
an
ongoing
struggle.
The
first
year
during
coid
worked
out
really
well
last
year,
ended
up
working
out
well,
and
this
this
year
it's
got
a
little
bit
harder,
but
we
continue
to
work
with
the
shelter
to
implement
that
program.
Next
slide,
please
housing.
We
also
always
talk
about
our
housing
exits,
we're
very
proud
of
the
housing
exits,
and
so
this
is
the
total
number
of
exit.
P
Since
we
started
keeping
data
late
in
2017
with
an
average
of
25
exits
into
into
housing
per
month,
we
have
Bluebird
up
there
on
the
screen,
because
we
are
currently
trying
to
connect
people
with
a
new
permanent
support
of
housing
program
that
is
intended
to
come
online
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
year,
which
which
will
put
a
significant
bump
in
the
number
of
folks
that
were
able
to
house
Bluebird
is
opening
in
Boulder
at
the
end
of
this
year,
and
then
they
have
another
project
up
in
Longmont
called
Zenia.
P
That
will
be
that's
scheduled
open
in
the
middle
of
next
year,
and
so,
when
I'm
sharing
this
number
with
you
guys
next
year,
I'm
excited
that
it
will
be
significantly
higher
and
I'm
hopeful
that
it
makes
a
a
significant
impact
on
the
system
as
a
whole.
Next
slide,
please
this
one
prevention
I
wanted
to
highlight
prevention
because,
as
we
talk
about
almost
every
year,
at
the
same
time
that
we
were
able
to
exit
339
folks
out
of
the
system,
we
screened
1,113
new
people
through
coordinated
entry
into
the
system.
P
So
we
continue
to
implement
Services.
We
we
continue
to
add
housing
as
well
as
Supportive
Services,
to
help
people
exit
homelessness,
but
we
also
need
to
significantly
concentrate
on
how
to
to
prevent
folks
from
entering
homelessness.
One
of
the
programs
that
the
city
has
to
do
this
work
is
called
Eis,
and
so
you
can
see
here
that
they
have
served
928
Unique
Individuals,
since
February
2022,
but
the
thing
I
I
would
like
to
highlight
on
this
slide
is
the
chart
on
the
left,
the
leth
hand
side.
P
That
shows
that
a
lot
of
the
that
most
of
the
folks
that
they
are
serving
have
been
stable,
that
they've
been
housed
for
between
two
or
five
or
more
years,
and
so
these
are
folks
that
are
who
are
reaching
out
for
Prevention
Services
and
those
the
need
of
for
those
Services
is
growing
and
so
I
think
it.
It's
important
that
we
highlight
in
this
presentation
on
all
the
good
work
we
do
to
exit
people
out.
P
P
Please,
and
so
this
the
council
asked
that
we
explore
safe
outdoor
spaces
in
our
exploration.
There's
kind
of
there's
been
a
lot
attached
to
that
and
so
I've
termed
it
alternative
Sheltering,
so
that
will
include
safe
outdoor
spaces,
which
in
Denver
have
historically
been
the
ice,
fishing
tents,
but
now
they're,
adding
pallet,
shelters
or
also
micro,
communities
or
tiny
homes,
and
so
we've
done
some
exploration
on
those
programs
and
some
of
the
things
that
successful
programs
have
all
had
in
common.
Are
the
things
listed
here
on
the
screen.
P
There
are
some
programs
that
are
self-run
and
have
a
little
bit
less
structure,
but
typically
those
programs
are
operated
in
communities
who
have
a
very
high
level
of
unsheltered
homelessness
and
those
and
those
communities
are
pretty
restrictive
about
who's
able
to
access
them,
and
so
folks
that
created
those
communities
that
didn't
have
the
stricter
access
have
typically
closed
by
now,
and
so
the
ones
that
have
been
primarily
successful
have
had
a
little
bit
more
structure,
so
they
include
Staffing,
they
include
wraparound
Services,
they
include
fencing
and
so
folks
there's
a
controlled
access.
P
They
include
restroom
showers,
laundry
storage,
spaces
for
folks
belonging
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
the
programming
that,
in
order
for
the
for
the
spaces
to
be
successful,
we
found
that
are
important.
We
did
we
did
some.
We
spoke
to
some
folks
in
Santa.
P
Cruz
we've
met
with
the
folks
in
Denver,
and
so
we've
done
a
lot
of
exploring
different
projects
and
different
places
to
see
what
would
work
or
what
could
work
in
Boulder,
and
so
these
are
the
some
of
the
common
things
that
we
came
across
next
slide.
P
Please
we
tried
to
break
break
down
costs.
I
will
say
that
there's
a
lot
of
assumptions,
because
it
would
vary
significantly
based
on
the
site
that
we
are
able
to
use
and
what
kind
of
development
that
site
would
require
some
of
the
annual
ongoing
cost.
We
did
it
based
on
30
tents,
but
if
you
were
able
to
fit
50
tents
or
pallet,
shelters
or
tiny
homes,
it
kind
of
again
depends
on
the
property.
P
P
You
would
decide
with
it
would
be
more
the
setup
the
year,
One
cost
that
vary
depending
on
if
you
went
with
tents
or
pallet,
shelters
or
the
tiny
homes.
Some
communities
on
the
west
coast,
who
have
more
temperate
temperatures,
use
regular
tents
or
let
people
set
up
their
own
tents
in
certain
locations
because
of
the
weather
in
Colorado.
P
We
felt
like
the
best
use
would
be
if
we
were
going
to
provide
a
space
that
we
also
provide
a
shelter
that
would
that
would
help
folks,
Shelter
From,
the
weather,
and
so
this
I'll
give
it
just
a
minute
to
kind
of
go
through
it
because
I
know.
This
is
a
lot
of
information
on
one
slide,
but
this
is.
These
are
costs
that
were
given
to
us
primarily
from
Denver,
because
we
felt,
like
those
were
the
most
comparable
costs.
The
port
costs
were
significantly
higher.
P
Some
of
their
sites
had
significantly
more
supportive
services.
We
have
seen
some
sites
who've
done
it
a
little
bit
cheaper,
but
again,
typically
those
sites,
don't
include
the
Supportive
Services
and
may
have
not
24-hour
staff
or
have
Outreach
programs
that
are
already
existing,
provide
some
of
the
navigation
Services.
So
these
are
all
estimates
again.
P
P
Location
next
slide,
please
back
to
the
beginning
on
the
questions
that
we
asked
or
I
asked
at
the
beginning,
and
so
I
went
through
all
of
those
programs,
and
so
I
think
our
question
to
you
guys
would
be
whether
do
you
have
any
input
on
any
of
those
programs
or
anything
you
would
like
to
see
differently
or
and
as
well
as
the
alternative,
Sheltering
safe
outdoor
spaces,
pallet
Sheltering,
all
very
similar,
just
different
Sheltering
types.
O
So
Megan
can
I
just
make
one
clarification
as
as
we
complete
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
today
about
Santa
Cruz,
so
we
actually
didn't
get
pass
or
interact
from
with
Santa
Cruz
in
Portland
and
Denver
and
Megan
didn't
mentioned
Santa
Cruz,
but
it's
actually
Portland
is
the
other
city
that
we
that
we
worked
with
as
as
well
as
up
in
Wisconsin.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
and
council
member
friend
we're
we're
ready
for
any
discussion
or
questions
you
may
have.
B
Thanks
Curt
Megan
a
a
helpful
and
informative
presentation;
okay,
so,
let's
start
with
questions
Bob
Yates.
I
Yeah,
just
one
question:
Megan
on
one
of
the
slides:
well,
a
couple
of
slides
one
one.
You
indicated
that
the
point
in
time
survey
was
pretty
flat
between
July
and
January,
about
350
people
between
sheltered
and
unsheltered,
which
is
great
to
have
that
information
and
on
another
a
subsequent
slide.
You,
you
also
talked
about
exits
from
homelessness
on
on
you
broke
it
down
to
a
monthly
basis,
which
was
also
very
helpful,
and
it
came
out
to
25
exits
per
month
was
that
is
that
countywide
or
is
that
just
city?
P
I
Yeah,
no,
that's
great,
that's
great,
and
so
if
one
were
to
do
the
math
and
say
well
geez
we
got
you
know
at
any
point
in
time.
We
have
about
350
homeless
people
in
Boulder,
so
you
but
we're
helping
25
of
them
exit
homelessness
per
month.
When
we
do
the
math
on
that
and
say
gosh
in
14
months,
there'll
be
no
more
homeless.
People
here
so
tell
tell
me
what
what's
what's
influencing
that
on
the
other
end.
P
The
it
would
be
back
down
to
my
Prevention.
Obviously
we
see
a
significant
number
of
folks
enter
the
system
way
more
than
we're
able
to
help
exit
the
system,
and
so
that
both
is
folks
typically
would
we
see
folks
come
through
coordinated
entry,
they're,
either
new
to
homelessness
or
new
to
Boulder
and
so
I,
it's
hard
for
us
at
any
given
time.
The
point
time
survey
is
limiting,
because
again
it
depends
on
people
willing
to
engage
who
we
find,
and
so
there
is
some
limit
to
what
that
number
tells
us.
P
But
we
know
that
we
have
a
significant
folks
number
of
folks
entering
the
system.
It's
harder
to
track
where
they
all
go.
Some
of
them
will
exit
right
back
out.
Some
of
them
may
stay.
I
Right,
so,
even
if
even
if
the
number
wasn't
350
was
500
still,
if
you
divide
it
by
by
25
you'd,
say
all
right
well,
in
20
months,
we'd
have
problem
solved.
It
sounds
like
there
are
people
who
are
coming
to
the
system
and
staying
and
that
we're
helping
exit
and
there's
other
people
who
come
into
the
system.
I,
say
cons,
system
I
mean
come
into
the
City,
come
into
the
City
and
stay
for
a
few
weeks
for
a
month
or
two
or
whatever,
and
then
that
self
exit
is
that
right,
so
fair
assumption,
corre.
P
C
I
D
Thanks
for
all
that
information
and
for
all
the
work
you
all
are
doing
in
this
space,
it's
it's
truly
extraordinary.
So
very
appreciative
of
it.
One
specific
question:
question
is
I've
heard
a
couple
times
about
the
the
mental
health
partners
facility
and
that's
really
exciting.
C
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
how
that's
potentially
transformative
do
we
know
where
that
facility
is.
O
Located
yeah
they've
they're
in
the
in
the
process
of
closing
on
a
property
in
Lewisville.
D
In
Lewisville,
okay,
and
did
you
I
thought
I
heard
you
say,
they'd
be
operating
in
a
few
months
is:
is
that
that's
possibly
even
what
they
they're?
Just
now
closing
but
they'll
be
be
able
to
get
open.
Pretty
quick.
O
Yeah
they
they
believe
they'll
be
able
to
get
open
relatively
quickly
because
the
the
the
previous
use
of
that
building
was
very
similar,
and
so
there's
only
limited
changes
that
they're
going
to
have
to
make
to
the
building
to
actually
open
and
I
assume
they'll
May,
making
other
changes
along
the
way.
But
you
know
actually
getting
open.
They
think
they
can
do
that
relatively.
O
Consolidated
I
know:
oh
yes,
that
that
that
facility
will
continue.
Yes,.
E
Nicole
quick
question:
maybe
not
that
quick,
but
first
of
all
Megan
and
Kurt
I'm,
so
happy
right
now
and
excited
I
apologize
for
driving.
You
guys
crazy
for
the
past
year
or
two,
but
look
it
worked,
no
I'm
just
kidding.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
so.
I
have
one
question:
it's
like
so
many
dreams
have
come
true
here
and
so
that
smile
that
you
have
Megan
is
just
delightful
and
it's
really
how
I
feel
right
now.
E
So,
let's
make
believe
that
we're
at
affordable
housing
and
the
kind
that
doesn't
have
wraparound
services-
and,
let's
say
a
person,
is
having
a
mental
health
issue
and
a
big
one
which
of
the
which
of
the
organization
SL,
which
part
is
it
peer
support
or
which
part
of
all
the
things
we've
heard
about
is
going
to
be
helping
them
and
how
much?
How
many
times
a
week,
do
you
think
that'll
happen
for
that
type
of
a
person.
O
I
might
start
off
and
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Megan,
but
in
the
situation
that
you
described,
the
first
interaction
is
likely
going
to
be
with
our
our
C
or
care
team,
which
is
behavioral
health
staff
who
work
in
our
department
and
work
C.
You
know
Works
in
collaboration
with
our
police
department
and
Care
Works
in
dependently
with
with
fire,
and
so
it's
likely
to
be
to
them,
and
then
there
will
have
to
be.
O
Two
programs:
we
have
a
referral
mechanism
and
we've
put
staff
in
place
for
referrals,
but
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Megan.
P
I
think
one
of
the
other
pieces
that
we're
super
excited
about
with
the
additional
State
money
for
the
day,
Services
Center,
is
that
we
built
in
additional
housing,
Supportive
Services
for
affordable
housing,
so
not
necessarily
permanent
Supportive
Housing
projects,
but
quite
literally
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
folks
that
who
are
in
affordable
housing
and
may
not
have
case
management.
That
was
definitely
identified
as
a
need.
So
we
wrote
that
into
that
Grant,
and
so
we
really
excited
that
that
got
funded.
That's.
B
E
P
J
Spear,
you
and
Rachel.
Are
you
wanting
us
to
answer
the
questions
that
we
were
posed
yet
or
we're
just
asking
questions
asking
questions
now?
Thank
you.
Excuse
me,
okay,
just
wanted
to
thank
you.
This
was
truly
an
incredible
presentation,
was
incred,
just
very
thorough
and
really
wonderful
to
see
the
full
picture
like
this.
We
have
so
many
new
things
that
are
about
to
be
starting
up
and
likely
to
be
having
big
effects.
J
So
thank
you,
I,
don't
know
how
any
of
you
get
sleep
with
all
that
you're
doing,
but
I'm
really
eager
to
see
where
this
goes.
You
mentioned
that
we
were
spending
about
11.6
million
on
unsheltered
homelessness.
Services
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
I
saw
that
correctly
that
that's
sort
of
the
for
for
new
programs,
where,
where
we
are
about
to
be
headed,
is
that
just
and.
O
O
Yeah
that
that
would
be
separate
and
the
other
thing
that
would
be
separate,
which
HEBs
and
flows
from
year
to
year
is,
is
our
investments
in
actually
creating
and
building
affordable
housing
that
is
specifically
dedicated
to
the
unhoused
individuals.
So,
for
example,
the
the
picture
that
you
saw
of
a
bluebird
which
will
be
completed
later
this
year.
It's
that
that
project
we
invested
in
that
project
last
year
and
the
year
before.
So
in
the
previous
two
years,
that
that
was
a
significant
investment.
O
We
don't
have
specific
Investments
in
projects
this
year,
but
we
will
likely
next
year,
and
then
there
was
you
know.
30
is
another
project
that
we
invested
some
of
our
affordable
housing
dollars
into
creating
these
units,
so
that
that
number
you
know,
11
million-
may
go
up
next
year,
B
based
on
those
affordable
housing,
investments.
J
O
This
would
be
single
adults,
both
sheltered
and
unsheltered,
so
the
programs
like
that
we
fund
through
EA
and
even
some
of
our
arpa
dollars,
that
we're
investing
in
rental
supports
it.
It
doesn't
include
that
I
I
would
point
out,
though,
that
there's
a
number
of
our
programs
that
that
touch
individuals
who
are
on
the
edge
of
homelessness.
You
know,
including
our
our
our
our
dollars
for
healthy
foods
and
our
Human
Services
dollars.
O
J
Awesome,
thank
you.
I
will
just
put
in
this
question
now,
rather
than
whenever
we
get
the
next
update,
but
at
the
next
update
next
year,
if
we
could
just
see
like
that
same
similar
kind
of
slide,
but
for
people
who
are
experiencing
sheltered
homelessness
like
family
homelessness,
just
to
kind
of
capture,
some
of
those
as
well,
because
I
think
that
that's
likely
a
really
big
amount
too
and
I
think
it
just
it's
helpful
to
have
that
context
as
well.
So
thank
you,
but
just
really
really
cool
to
see.
J
All
of
that.
Another
question
that
I
had
was
around
the
options
that
exist
for
respit
care,
but
for
for
folks
who
are
kind
of
coming
out
of
like
detox
or
having
been
in
the
emergency
room,
for
you
know,
overdose
or
something
like
like
that,
like
addiction
or
mental
illness
related,
do
is
there
anything
that
exists
kind
of
like
like
a
resit
center,
but
not
for
physical,
but
for
mental
health
or
addiction.
O
Yes,
Mental
Health
Partners
has
such
a
resit
center.
Currently
I
I
think
it's
around
eight
beds,
if
I'm
correct,
but
they
they
would
be
able
to
assist
those
types
of
individuals
and
this
new
facility.
You
know
that
will
be
coming
on
board,
will
also
help
with
those
types
of.
J
Situations
than
so,
the
new
facility
will
be
a
place
where
folks
can
stay
for
a
little
bit
as
they're
recovering.
O
J
Thank
you
and
then
one
other
question.
This
was
just
around
some
of
the
evidence
on
the
benefits
of
sanction
encampments.
Is
there
evidence
that
they
reduce
homelessness?
Do
they
result
in
more
permanent
housing?
Do
they
reduce
crime?
Do
they
have
you
know
fewer
weather,
related
emergencies
like
frost,
fite
and
hypothermia
for
people
who
are
staying
there,
I
guess
I'm,
just
my
my
understanding
of
the
sanction
encampments
is
that
they
don't
necessarily
lead
to
exits
from
homelessness
and
I'm.
J
Just
wondering
is
that
misinformation
on
my
part
or
do
we
have
evidence
about
what
specific
outcomes
they
help.
P
Take
that
one
okay,
sure
sure
I
think
it
depends
on
the
project
they're
relatively
new,
and
so
it's
hard
to
find
any
real
data.
I
think
the
exit
data
is,
is
that
I've,
seen
specifically
from
Denver
Denver,
is
pretty
comparable
to
shelter,
exits
and
I.
P
Think
it'd
be
important
to
point
out
that
if
you
also
invest
in
the
housing
that
folks
or
whatever
resource
they're
exiting
into
that
would
be
very
important
right
like
we
wouldn't
want
to
just
invest
in
Sheltering
options,
without
also
investing
in
options
that
help
folks
exit
the
system.
I
Yeah
thanks
sorry,
Rachel
I
had
a
second
question.
I
forgot,
there
was
some
hotline
posts
today
that
kind
of
went
back
and
forth
and
I
appreciate
Curt
Megan
getting
on
those.
One
of
the
suggestions
that
was
made
in
one
of
the
posts
was
that
we
divert
some
are
all
the
money
that
we
would
use
for
the
day
shelter
this
year
for
other
things
and
I
know
that
you,
you
folks,
are
still
working
very
hard
on
on
locating
a
a
facility
for
that.
I
But
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
little
bit
about
your
thought
on
on
that
is.
Are?
Are
you
you
kind
of
given
up
for
this
year
and
we
should
we
do?
Should
we
redirect
that
money
or
and
and
I
know
you-
you
can't
get
yourself
too
committed
here,
but
or
should
we
retain
that
money
for
the
day
shelter
because
you
think
you're,
probably
not
far
off
from
getting
that
pinned
down
and
getting
open,
opened.
O
O
We
were
unfortunate
that
it
didn't
come
through,
but
from
a
a
financial
standpoint,
it
was
a
it
was
a
a
good
deal
for
the
money
and,
as
we've
looked
at
other
buildings,
it's
pretty
rare
to
find
a
building
that
won't
need
significant
infrastructure
changes
to
it.
If
we
end
up
purchasing
a
building,
but
we
may
be
able
to
find
something,
that's
more
cost
effective
as
well.
O
My
advice
would
be
to
wait
until
the
2024
year
to
look
at
you
know
where
we're
at
I
am
confident
that
we
will
find
a
location
in
the
next
few
months
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
will
be
operational
in
in
four
months
or
or
nine
months,
but
I
I
I
do
believe
we'll
find
Clarity
on
a
direction
for
the
day
services,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
most
of
the
resources
that
were
allocated
for
this
year
for
the
day
Services
were
to
Simply,
get
it
up
and
running
and
to
invest
in
a
building.
O
If
we
do
that
next
year,
we'll
still
have
that
same
Pro
potentially
have
that
same
investment,
we're
just
moving
it
from
one
year
to
the
other.
But
arguably
there
will
be
some
savings
depending
on
the
approach
that
we
end
up.
B
Kurt
thanks
Bob,
okay,
I
do
have
a
couple:
okay,
so
on
page
five
there's
a
couple
references
to
people
supported
by
the
housing
retention
team
and
individualized
peer
support
services
and
then
talks
about
bsh
purchasing,
12
individual
units
outside
of
the
landlord
system
and
with
Case
Management
Services.
So
first
question
is
how
many
hours
a
week
for
either
peer
support
or
Case
Management
Services.
This
dovet
Tales
was
something
Tara
asked
a
bit
ago
to
are
people
getting
with
either
of
those.
P
I
think
it
depends
on
the
individual,
some
folks
get
more
than
others.
There
are
some
folks
that
the
peer
support
or
case
management
will'll
see
several
times
a
week,
and
so
it's
really
individualized
as
what
as
far
as
as
much
as
they
the
need
of
individuals,
and
so
some
folks
might
get
seen
once
a
week
with
those
build
with
that
building
home.
That
is
intended
to
be
an
intensive
program,
and
so
they
would
be
seeing
at
least
once
a
week.
B
And
once
a
week,
I
I
guess
because
you
know
we've
talked
about
like
my.
My
inclination
is
that
some
people
need
like
247
supports,
and
so
when
we're
talking
once
a
week,
are
we
talking
eight
hours
that
day
a
24hour
superv
or
help
supports
and
sometimes
supervision
or
is.
P
It
depends
on
what
the
activity
is,
but
I
would
also
say
that
oftentimes
when
folks,
first
move
into
housing
folks
get
seen
almost
daily
I
think
it's
one
of
those
things
that
as
they
get
situated
and
more
comfortable,
they
titrate
it
down
to
a
little
bit
less
and
some
people
keep
keep
that
high
level
for
ongoing
amount
of
time,
because
the
the
transition
is
much
harder,
but
others
are
able
to
get
a
little
bit
situated
and
then
be
a
but
not
24
hours
yeah.
When
they
see
somebody.
F
Day,
Vicky
Ebner
HS
operating
in
homelessness
strategy,
senior
manager
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
that
once
I
get
over
that
very
long
title
that
this
is
placed
above
and
extended
from
the
case
manager.
So
there
is
their
case
management
services
that
are
provided
through
their
permanent
Supportive
Housing
program
and
then
in
addition,
they
have
a
peer
support
and
they
have
this
retention
team.
F
When
we
were
first
designing
it,
we
were
calling
the
retention
team
kind
of
a
quasi
act
team
if
you're
familiar
with
assertive
Community
tra
treatment-
it's
not
quite
as
intensive
as
that,
but
it
is
a
team
that
can
work
rather
intensively
with
individuals
depending
on
their
needs
and
their
situations.
B
Thanks
for
that,
but
in
the
best
case
scenario,
if
they've
got
all
the
teams,
how
many
hours
a
day
would
somebody
at
best
get?
Is
it
like
an
hour
I'm
I'm,
just
trying
to
understand
the
facts.
F
It
it's
just
really
hard
to
to
get
to
that
number,
because
if
somebody's
in
crisis,
you
have
a
whole
team
of
people
that
are
working
with
them
to
get
them
through
that
crisis,
and
so
that
could
be
all
day
with
a
combination
of
the
SE
team,
the
retention
team,
the
peer
supporter,
the
case
manager.
If
it's
somebody
who
is
just
struggling
with
that
isolation
from
newly
moving
into
a
unit,
it
might
be
an
hour
with
the
case
manager.
It
may
be
an
hour
or
two
with
the
pier
support.
It
might
be
another.
F
You
know,
checking
on
them
daily
for
the
first
few
weeks
with
the
with
the
with
the
peer
or
the
retention
team.
It's
also
not
linear
right,
so
people
can
get
in
get
stable,
not
need
services
for
a
while,
but
then
have
something
that
triggers
them
back
up
to
needing
that
and
so
at
minimum.
They
need
that
basically
1
to
15
case
man,
management
ratio
of
clients
versus
case
manager
so
that
they
can
respond
to
people
in
their
needs
when
they
are
needed.
B
Well
and
I'm,
obviously
just
thinking
about
somebody
who
is
in
crisis
and
is
Crisis,
you
know
for
more
than
eight
hours
in
a
day,
and
often
if
you're
in
crisis,
it's
a
247
situation
and
you
need
a
lot
of
help.
E
Okay,
can
I
cqu
for
one
second,
just
to
follow
up
what
Rachel
said,
Vicki
so
the
let's
say
this
person
who
might
or
might
not
have
burnt
their
apartment
down
somewhere.
It's
always
good
right
to
go
back
and
say:
well,
how
did
we
let
that
happen?
So
I
am
wondering
if,
with
all
these
new
programs,
if
there's
a
better
chance
that
this,
because
every
time
that
happens
it
affects
everybody
surrounding
them
in
in
that
particular
location.
So
do
you
think
could
be
a
better
chance
now
that
we're
doing
this.
E
For
that
not
to
happen,
and
do
you
still
think
there's
something
missing
still
from
these
programs,
where
we
could
do
more.
F
F
One
of
the
key
aspects
when
we
wrote
the
building
home
proposal
was
that
these
two
teams
would
interact
interact
more
often
so
that
they
could
have
those
conversations.
Looking
at
incidents
doing
a
post
incident
review.
What
can
service
changes
can
be
made?
What
are
program
augmentations?
That
could
happen.
So
we
feel
like
that,
should
help
with
some
of
those
situations
and
just
having
more
eyes
available
would
generally
load
lower
those
problems.
O
So
I'll
mention
two
things.
The
first
is
that
Mental
Health
Partners
also
has
a
a
place
for
individuals
to
go.
Who
are
in
you
know,
severe
crisis
that
wouldn't
be
handled
in
someone's
apartment.
They
would
be
referred.
You
know
through
that
service.
The
second
thing
that
I'll
mention
is
that
we
will
often
or
well
Megan
talk
about
the
integration
of
service
providers,
so
we
will
also
be
working
with
the
case
manager
that
help
them
get
into
housing.
O
So
if
they're
struggling-
and
it
was
an
individual
Municipal
system-
was
the
lead
on
in
getting
that
person
house
they'll
they'll,
the
the
team
will
work
with
that
individual
who
they've
had
them
and
so
really
working
with
the
partner
that
they
have
sort
of
the
closest
relationship
with
and
when
the
team
meets
weekly
to
work
on
individuals.
That's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they
talk
about.
Is
you
know
which,
or
which
agency
or
organization
or
entity
is
sort
of
the
lead
on
particular.
B
Individuals:
okay.
Moving
on
to
my
next
question,
it
mentions
that
bsh
bur
purchased,
12
individual
properties
are
those
within
like
dense
apartment.
O
Complexes
versus
nonent
apartment
complexes.
O
Okay,
actually
they're
they're
Condominiums,
so
they're
individual
Condominiums,
and
so
that's
that's.
What
allows
them
to
be
both
the
landlord
and
the
service
provider.
B
Got
it
and
given
that
the
as
it
was
described,
these
are
often
High
utilizers,
who
are
who
need
extra?
You
know
kind
of
options
because
of
eviction
issues
with
landlords,
and
you
also
are
going
to
have
neighbors
who
you
know
it
is
fair
to
have
quiet
enjoyment
of
the
home
and
not
fires
and
stuff.
What
are
the
like,
how
are
how
are
we
ensuring
that
or
how
are
they
ensuring
that
and
are
there
triggers
for?
B
You
know,
because,
in
a
situation
where
someone
is,
you
know
using
terra's
example
of
starting
fires
whatever
there
would
be
at
some
point
that
person
wouldn't
be
there
anymore.
What
what
are
the?
What
are
the
plans
for
people
who
are
are
really
hard
to
house
in
terms
of
having
that
be
an
okay
situation
for
the
Neighbors
as
well.
O
Sure,
but
many
of
the
individuals
that
were
housed
through
the
city,
Boulder
voucher
program
and
as
well
as
into
these
units
and
others
are
individuals
with
lengthy
criminal
records.
So
they're
they've
probably
been
on
a
high
utilizer
list
at
some
point
in
the
past,
there's
some
of
our
more
challenging
individuals,
so
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
outcomes
that
Megan
presented
I
think
there
was
78
or
79
individuals
that
have
been
assisted
through
this
program.
You
know
three
of
them
have
not
been
successful.
O
P
No
I
would
say
they
I
mean
even
as
Boulder
shelter
as
a
landlord.
They
still
sign
a
lease,
and
so
we
they
would
I
mean
there's,
there's
still
Property
Management,
that
they're
using
and
so
I
I
do
think.
Those
things
are
I
know
those
things
are
addressed,
and
so
it's
not
okay
and
they
wouldn't
leave
them
in
the
space
if
they
were
a
danger
to
their
their
neighbors
or
the
property.
B
Thanks
on
page
six,
it
talks
about
a
staff
or
a
task
force
that
makes
recommendations
to
HSBC
and
that
just
flagged
for
me
that
it
has
been
an
ongoing
concern
of
mine
or
request
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
council
representative
to
HS,
SBC
and
I
know
that
there's
at
least
some
interest
by
County
Commissioners.
So
my
question
is
how
how
could
that
happen?
I
know
it's
not
set
up
right
now
to
have
Council
or
commissioner
Representatives,
but
if
we
wanted
to
do
that,
how
could
we
do
it.
O
So
those
are
open
meetings
to
the
public
you
could,
you
could
attend
if
you
wanted
to
now.
L
O
I
I
I
suppose
it
would
be
council's
prerogative
to
identify
a
council
member
to
attend
those
meetings,
but
that
would
certainly
be
possible.
B
Well,
let
me
state
that
differently,
like
in
that
it
says
they're
making
recommendations
to
HSBC
I
assume
that
HSBC
is
then
voting
on
that
and
so
having
a
a
seat
at
the
table
where
you're,
an
equal
voter,
say
How.
Would
how
could
that
happen?
For
because
I
doubt
we
could
just
send
somebody
and
then
we'd
have
a
a
an
extra
vote
right.
O
So
we
would
need
to
change
the
structure
of
HSBC
or
I
would
say,
say
the
Commissioners
would
have
to
so
the
Commissioners
actually
Iden.
They
approve
the
individuals
that
sit
on
the
executive
of
HSBC,
so
I
I
am
one
of
those
individuals
that
have
been
identified
or
approved
by
the
by
the
County
Commissioners.
If
city
council
members
were
put
onto
that
executive
committee,
I
assume
it
would
be
similar
to
like
a
a
board
member
City
on
the
older
housing
Partners
board.
O
B
I
will
skip
those
two
just
wondering
when
we
talk
about
the
increase
in
turnaways
for
capacity
in
in
winter
season.
2021
versus
2022,
23
I
know
that
Megan
in
your
presentation,
you
talked
about
you
know
all
the
different
providers
of
shelter
that
we
have
like
former
mother
house
and
and
some
others
and
I'm.
Also,
remembering,
though,
that
we
closed
the
severe
weather,
shelter,
beds,
I
want
to
say
2020
for
overflow
I'm,
just
wondering
total
capacity
in
the
city.
What
is
it
2019
versus
2023?
And
it's
okay?
F
We
had
210
total
it
was.
You
might
need
to
check
my
math
here,
but
it
was
50
beds
at
path
to
home,
72,
bed,
severe
weather
shelter
and
then
the
160
at
the
shelter.
So
that
seems
like
it
would
be
300
110,
but
I
will
say
that
it's
only
if
you
look
at
the
2022
year
period,
where
we
well
into
that
shelter
consolidation
we
were
not
having
turnaways.
It
is
basically
been
ratcheting
up
since
late.
B
2022,
okay,
I
think
it
I
would
still
be
interested
in
knowing
what
it
was
2019
versus
2023
with
all
the
different
providers
and
some
are
different
than
they
were
at
the
time.
So
maybe
that's
something
we
could
get
back
to
me
on
and
then
on
the
hotel
sort
of
similar.
To
my
questions
on
you
know
individual
apartments
and
Condominiums.
B
When
I
did
my
police
ride
along
the
I
think
the
hotel
that
had
a
lot
of
placements
of
of
unhoused
individuals
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
by
us
or
by
other
people,
buying
hotel
rooms,
but
they
were
on
that.
B
Like
hourly
driveby
list
of
you
know
like
we
were
doing,
it
was
on
like
the
police,
hot
spot
and
and
there
you
know
they
were
hourly,
because
there
was
so
much
there
were
fights
and
shots
fired
and
stuff
around
there
and
we
went
into
the
lobby
and
there
was
like
it
was,
is
sort
of
not
common.
In
Boulder
there
was
bulletproof
glass
separating
the
person,
the
the
person
checking
people
in
and
and
us,
and
there
were
just
some
some
Shell
Shocked
like
like
see
parents
there.
B
So
I'm
just
wondering
when
we
place
people
in
if
they're
kind
of
congregate
living
in
hotels,
what
services
or
supports
do
they
get
when
they're
there,
like
you
know,
if
you
were
and
I
understand,
we
we
kind
of
pick
the
highest
as
I
understand
it
from
previous
years
functioning
people
to
put
in
hotels,
but
still
are
there?
Are
there
resources
that
go
there
as
well.
P
Yep
with
the
program
that
we
operate
with
Boulder
shelter
both
last
year,
that
was
highly
successful,
and
so
we
were
going
to
continue
it
this
year.
It
was
folks
who
were
on
the
housing
track,
so
with
the
goal
of
that
they
never
return
to
the
shelter
we,
but
we
also
provide
funding
for
a
case
management,
specific
case
management
specifically
for
those
individuals,
so
they
had
a
case
manager
checking
on
them
every
day,
and
there
were
no
issues
with
the
with
the
boulder
folks
that
we
were
with
the
boulder
shelter
placed.
P
It
was
a
highly
successful
program.
Last
year.
O
Great,
the
other
thing
that
I'll
add
Rachel
is
that
the
I
believe
you
speaking
of
the
Millennium
Hotel,
the
Millennium
Hotel
reached
out
to
us
a
few
months
ago
to
you
know,
tell
us
of
their
of
their
changing
plans
and
they
were
actually
highly
complimentary
of
this
particular
program
and
they
actually
rent
hotel
rooms.
O
Do
a
whole
variety
of
individuals
in
our
community
and
I'd
be
careful
about
associating
the
the
gunshots
to
that
group
who
we
were
housing
from
the
shelter,
because
I
do
know
that
that
individual
was
not
connected
to
this
program
and
we've
I.
Think
we've
been
doing
this
hotel
program,
I
think
since
Co
started
I
think
three
years
if
I'm
correct
and
while
there
are
some
challenges
with
individuals
from
time
to
time.
O
B
Well
again,
I
don't
know
if
it
was
folks
placed
in
this.
You
know
through
this
program
or
not,
but
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
hotels
who
did
not
want
to
continue
receiving
placements,
I,
guess
and
and
it's
harder
to
find
hotels
because
of
issues
that
they've
had
in
the
past,
so
yeah
not
trying
to
generalize
just
trying
to
understand
what
supports
we
are
providing
so
that
they
can
be.
Everybody
can
be
successful.
There.
O
Well,
well
also
during
coid
the
hotels
weren't
being
used
and
the
one
hotel
we
were
using
in
Boulder,
we
were
filling
probably
three4
of
their
beds
every
night
during
the
winter,
and
so
that's
also
quite
a
bit
different
than
the
the
20
or
25
that
we
were
posting
in
the
last.
B
Year,
okay,
my
next
question
is
on
page
23.
When
we
talk
about
the
different
possible
structures
for
safe
outdoor
spaces,
do
we
know
what
homeless
folks
say
that
they
would
prefer
of
the
different
types
offered?
Have
we
done
any
Outreach.
P
No
I,
we
haven't
specifically
done
any
Outreach
in
my
experience
you
know
with
with
Denver.
They
only
had
at
the
time
the
option
of
a
of
an
ice
fishing
tent
and
they're
just
now
expanding
into
the
pallet
Sheltering.
So
it
will
be
interesting,
I
guess,
with
that
development
in
Denver
to
see
if
there
is
a
a
preference,
I,
obviously
Denver's,
also
doing
the
hoteling.
That's
always
the
preference
of
folks,
but
between
like
a
pallet,
shelter
and
ice
fishing
tent.
Is
that
what
your
versus
a
tiny
home.
P
Right,
no
I'm
not
I'm,
not
positive,
because
yeah,
but
we
could
as
they
develop
it
in
Denver
or
we
could
I
just
ask
I.
Guess
the
folks
in
Boulder
what
they
would
prefer.
But
no
I
don't
know
to
mind.
B
In
your
response
to
Nicole
Megan,
you
indicated
that
Denver
they
weren't
seeing
see
anything
more
favorable
than
Denver
homeless,
shelter
exits
for
people
who
were
living
in
the
safe
outdoor
spaces.
I
thought
I
remembered
at
the
tour
that
you
and
I
were
on
that
they
did
have
some
pretty
favorable
exits.
Is
that
am
I
misremembering
or
do
you
know
what
I'm
talking.
P
About
I
think
overall,
like
they've
G
they've,
given
out
different
numbers
depending
on
when
but
overall
like
I,
it's
typically
similar
to
a
shelter
and
again
I,
don't
think.
That's
necessarily
a
knock
on
on
it's
more
about
exit
resources.
Right
like
it's.
So
if
they're
being
prioritized
for
housing,
then
obviously
they'd
have
a
a
heavier
exit
option,
but
they're
similar
I
mean
the
way
Denver
is
using
them
now
is
to
expand
shelter
resources.
This
notur,
okay,.
B
And
then
one
last
question
for
Kurt
in
your
answer
to
Bob
on
possibly
reallocating
the
day,
Services
money
that
was
held
over
this
year
and
unused
I
thought
that
the
pot
of
money
that
Matt
was
talking
about
was
for
operations
like
there
was
some
800,000
or
something
that
was
specifically
for
operations,
not
not
capital
or
planning
for
the
year.
Is
that
is
that
not
accurate
or.
O
Yeah
I
think
that's
generally
correct.
I
think
the
the
challenge
is:
is
that
there's
a
a
pretty
wide
variety
of
Financial
commitments,
depending
on
where
the
St
service
center
is
cited,
the
type
of
building?
You
know
that
sort
of
there's
a
lot
of
unknown
costs,
but
that
number
could
go
up
and
it
could
go
down.
Certainly
more
than
800,000.
O
B
Thank
you.
That's
all
my
questions
over
to
Aaron
and
then
I
think
we
will
be
on
to
answer
the
questions.
Oh
and
then
Mark
Aaron,
then
Mark.
D
Really
quickly,
Kurt
I
wanted
to
just
drill
into
an
answer.
You
had
L
laid
on
hotline
today
and
by
the
way
that
was
heroic,
work
responding
to
all
of
those
questions
in
a
a
very
short
period
of
time.
I
was
amazed
and
I'm
sure
you
got
help
from
from
maybe
some
people
too,
and
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
doing
that,
but
the
there
was
the
final
question
about
or
the
followup
about.
D
The
number
average
number
of
Shelter
beds
that
go
unused
and
just
wanted
to
just
confirm
is
the
final
answer
that
this
year
so
far
there
have
been
an
average
of
10
shelter,
beds
unused
per
night.
That's
correct,
okay
and
is,
and
that
is
that
raw
data
of
I
mean
I
know
we
have
a
dashboard
that
shows
all
this.
But
do
we
have
like
a
like
a
raw
data
that
that
we
can
look
at
or
I,
don't
know
like
in
a
spreadsheet
or
something
now
you're.
E
O
We'd
we'd
be
we'd,
be
able
to
get.
N
Just
one
question:
in
the
past,
your
analyses
were
fairly
negative
about
the
the
outcomes
and
utility
of
the
various
safe
outdoor
space
possibilities.
Has
your
further
research
and
looking
at
other
programs
changed
that
point
of
view.
O
You
I
I
think
what
has
changed
are
some
of
the
outcomes
that
I
would
say
are
more
successful
with
some
communities
that
have
gone
down
this
road
and
if
I
could
just
refer
quickly
back
to
Megan's
presentation.
What
we
try
to
do
is
is
provide
the
ingredients
to
imp
implementing
this
type
of
program
and
all
of
these
ingredients
sort
of
need
to
be
in
place
for
it
to
be
successful.
O
Looking
at
programs
that
have
been
successful,
so
you
know,
Megan
talked
about
having
a
secure
identified
site
having
proper
services,
like
you
know,
showers,
bathrooms,
cooking
facilities
and
food
having
wraparound,
Services
and
also
having
places
where
or
services
that
they
can
be
referred
to.
You
know
out
of
that
that
the
a
safe
outdoor
space
shouldn't
be
the
last
place
they
end
up.
It
should
be
a
place
that
brings
them.
O
You
know
to
another
location
in
and
hopefully
into
housing,
or
at
least
out
of
homelessness,
and
so
individuals,
I,
I,
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
you
need
to
look
at
in
safe
outdoor
spaces
or
any
type
of
approach
is
also
in
addition
to
that,
investing
more
in
the
exit.
So
investing
more
in
housing
more
in
Behavioral,
Health,
Services
and
in
in
a
ways
that
they
won't
be.
O
You
know
disdained
in
that
in
that,
in
that
safe
space
for
a
long
time,
and
so
many
of
the
communities
that
started
these
types
of
approaches
over
the
last
few
years
didn't
have
all
of
those
ingredients
in
place
and
many
at
a
couple
years
ago,
when
we
looked
at
this
there
was
a
lot
of
people,
would
be
attracted.
There',
be
a
lot
of
camping
around
that
unsanctioned,
camping
or
in
or
the
safe
camping
areas,
just
gr
beyond
their
capacity.
O
So
those
are
the
challenges
we
saw
in
the
beginning,
I
think
the
the
programs
that
began
in
Denver
during
coid
identified
those
challenges
and
tried
to
address
them
and
so
I
I
think
we're
seeing
better
outcomes.
But
you
know
the
the
costs
are
also
pretty
substantial
as
well.
So
just
looking
at
how
do
we?
O
N
You
did
a
obviously
a
very
interesting
financial
analysis
of
the
of
the
cost
of
these
options,
given
the
need
for
further
investment
at
the
end
to
ensure
successful
exits.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
what
the
magnitude
of
that
expense
would
would
look.
O
Like
yeah,
so
I
think
we
would
want
to
kind
of
work
backwards
and
say
so
if
30
individuals
enter
this
this
this
service,
how
many
do
we
want
to
exit
into
homelessness
or
I'm
sorry
exit
out
of
homelessness
in
which
types
of
ways
over
the
next
year?
We
can
look
at
the
cost
of
those
different
initiatives,
and
that's
you
know
likely
what
I
would
we
would
want
to
add.
You
know
to
that
service
with
that
being
said,
you
know
we're
using
all
the
resources.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
Kurt
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
what
must
be
a
new
speed
record
in
responding
to
hotlines,
including
my
own,
that
your
response
was
instantaneous
and
I.
Thank
you.
It
was
a
busy
afternoon.
I
bet
it
was
thanks
again.
B
All
right
I'm
seeing
no
more
questions
thanks,
Mark
thanks,
Kurt
I
agree.
Those
hotline
responses
were
impressive
today
and
Megan
and
Vicky,
probably
your
whole
team
chipped
in
with
that.
So
let's
move
on
to
questions
I
think
the
first
one
that
we
need
to
answer
is:
do
any
council
members
have
input
on
building
home
tribe
recovery
rest
bit,
Services,
Unit
acquisition
and
High
utilizers
Mark.
Is
your
hands
still
up
intentionally
all
right?
Anybody
want
to
give
input
or
Direction
on
any
of
those
subcategories
Nicole
would
and
Aaron
would.
J
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
to
me,
I,
think
all
of
these
are
on
the
right
track,
really
appreciate
all
these
new
programs
that
you
all
are
getting
ready
to
start
up,
and
it's
just
an
amazing
amount
of
new
programming
to
be
starting.
So
truly
I,
don't
understand
how
you
all
sleep,
but
really
I
am
very
optimistic
about
a
lot
of
these
programs.
So
thank
you.
D
Yeah
agree
with
that
and
I,
don't
know
where
you
find
a
time
to
sleep,
but
hopefully
you
sleep
very
well,
knowing
the
amazing
work
that
you're
doing
in
the
community,
because
these
are
really
an
Innovative
set
of
programs
and
they're
dealing
with
very,
very
real
problems
like
I
I,
quick
story,
I,
remember,
I
was
in
the
emergency
room
a
while
back
waiting
for
for
my
wife
to
come
out,
and
there
was
a
man
there
who
appeared
to
be
homeless,
who
had
a
bag
that
he
was
Dripping
blood
into
and
clearly
was
done
with
the
emergency
room
and
was
just
waiting
there
before
going
back
out
on
the
street
seemed
very
clear
and
he
clearly
didn't
have
a
place
to
go
to
recover
from
whatever
bodily
issue
he
was
experiencing
and
so
I'm
so
glad
that
we
will
be
creating
a
place
where
folks
can
go
in
that
situation.
D
It's
a
it's
a
real
need
in
the
community,
so
we
know
how
deep
and
and
wide
the
homelessness
issues
are
in
town,
and
these
programs,
together,
along
with
our
partners,
are
going
to
make
a
real
difference
and
so
looking
forward
to
seeing
them
come
online
and
just
real
grateful
for
the
work
everybody
at
the
city
and
our
partners
are
are
doing
appreciate.
It.
H
E
Tara
well,
I
already
said
how
great
I
thought
it
was.
As
my
last
comment
is
going
to
be
every
time
you
put
up
a
new
slide
and
I
did
a
screenshot
of
it
said.
That's
my
favorite
slide
nope,
that's
my
favorite
slide.
No,
so
I
can
honestly
say
that
they
were
all
my
favorite
slide
and
it's
such
tremendous
work
in
the
short
time
I've
been
on
Council
of
two
years,
so
I
appreciate
all
that
you've
done.
B
Thanks
darara
I
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
not
sure.
There's
any
other.
K
B
Too,
go
up
so
I'll,
just
add,
yeah
I
think
it's
all
steps
in
the
right
direction,
too.
I
I,
guess
I
as
to
high
utilizers
I
I
do
worry
a
little
bit
that
I
think
we
did
this
work
and
remember
Kurt.
When
you
and
I
first
met
in
like
2019,
we
talked
about
the
high
utilizers
and
and
the
dramatic
difference
it
makes
to
get
people
hous
so
ideally
I'm,
hoping
that
there's
something
that's
in
place.
B
J
Thank
you,
I
think
what
I
would
be
interested
in
is
maybe
not
just
alternative
Sheltering
services,
but
also
additional
Sheltering
services,
so
I'd
be
really
interested
in
knowing
you
know.
Would
we
potentially
see
better
or
the
same
outcomes
if
we
were
to
try
to
invest
in
more
Sheltering
like
if
the
the
boulder
shelter
were
to
have
a
few
more
beds
or
Haven
Ridge,
or
just
one
of
these
other
places?
J
If
we
could
help
them
expand,
would
that
have
similar
outcomes
for
a
similar
amount
of
money,
or,
possibly,
you
know
better?
Would
that
be
cheaper
so
anyway,
I,
yes,
interested
and
would
also
like
to
have
a
comparison
with
what
what
would
it
be
to
just
add
more
to
what
we
currently
have?
Thank
you.
E
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
say
great
comments,
but
great
comments
all
night,
and
also
this
one
as
well
as
far
as
just
maybe
adding
beds
versus
like
a
whole
new
thing,
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
we
have
so
much
in
the
fire
right
now,
not
literally
so
many
big
things
that
I
feel
like
we
should
focus
on
those.
If
we
had
extra
money,
I
would
want
it
to
go
to
sober
living
finding.
E
You
know
a
transitional
housing
for
those
that
are
leaving
jail
and
and
continuing
to
have
more
robust,
more
robust,
Health
mental
health
and
drug
addiction
Services
than
we
do
now.
As
obviously
that's
that's
a
bigger
and
bigger
problem,
so
I'm
going
to
say
for
right
now,
I,
don't
think
we
should
I
think
we
should
just
focus
on
this
day
center.
Now
that
we
have
these
new
grants
and
focus
on
what
we're
doing
now
and
make
that
all
succeed
and
we'll
see
about
the
future
in
the
future.
That's
my
opinion.
N
And
is
it's
always
good
to
know
more,
rather
than
less,
if
staff
has
excess
capacity,
I
have
no
problem
with
their
exploring
and
researching
other
Solutions
and
costing
it
out,
not
just
in
terms
of
the
physical
elements
of
of
that
solution,
but
also
providing
the
services
at
the
other
end.
That
you've
indicated
are
necessary
to
get
good
results.
N
So
I
like
to
you,
know,
I'd
like
to
understand
what
the
full
cost
of
that
is,
but
I
would
have
to
agree
with
Tara
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we're
ready
for
implementation
of
anything
at
this
point,
I
think
there's
some
further
work
to
be
done,
as
as
your
views
have
evolved,
I'm
prepared
to
have
my
views
evolve,
but
I
I
would
like
to
see
a
little
more
work
done
to
determine.
N
If
this
is
the
the
courses
we
want
to
take
I,
otherwise
I
I,
you
know
prove
of
all
of
the
other
programs
and
steps
that
you're
taking
I
think
you're
doing
Yan's
work.
But
if
you
happen
to
have
extra
time
on
your
hands,
I
have
no
problem.
You
know
doing
an
analysis
on
alternative
of
Sheltering.
I
Yeah
just
two
things
to
say:
one
I
agree
with
actually
Nicole's
comment
of.
Just
a
few
minutes
ago,
I
I'd
like
to
see
what
incremental
beds
in
existing
facilities
could
do.
I
I
understand
now
the
confusion
that
staff
had
earlier
today
when
they
originally
said,
there's
an
average
of
39
empty
beds
at
the
shelter
and
then
they
corrected
that
and
said
10.
I
So
Aon
thanks
for
asking
that
question
and
if
you
go
to
the
dashboard,
you
get
both
answers
right,
you
get
the
10
and
the
39,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
is
39
number
of
course
includes
severe
weather,
Sheltering
and
Hotel
Beds,
so
it
it's
kind
of
kind
of
39,
sometimes
a
year
and
kind
of
10,
some
other
parts
of
the
year,
and
maybe
we
can
kind
of
tight,
tighten
up
that
that
data
presentation
but
I
do
agree
with
Nicole
that
I
think
we've
got
existing
facilities.
I
I
know
the
shelter
is
only
one
of
them,
but
it's
the
biggest
one.
We've
got
existing
facilities,
I
wonder
if,
if,
if
adding
and
I
know,
there's
a
whole
lot
of
complications,
as
far
as
in
the
we
don't
know
in
the
shelter
they're,
a
private
organization
and
and
the
other
shelters
are
private
organizations
and
we
give
them
a
little
bit
of
money
and
they
have
neighbors
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
factors
that
go
into
it.
But
but
it
makes
logical
sense
to
me
to
do
what
Nicole
suggested,
which
is
how
do
we?
I
How
do
we
expand
the
the
housing,
the
Sheltering,
not
housing,
but
Sheltering
capacity
at
the
existing
shelters
before
we
launch
into
something
new?
That's
that's.
Maybe
that's
that's
different,
particularly
since
it's
pretty
expensive.
The
second
thing.
So
that's
one
thing.
The
second
thing
I'll
say
is:
it
sounds
like
we're
kind
of
close
I
know
that
Kur
you
were
talking
about
maybe
few
months,
maybe
a
few
more
months,
but
it
sounds
like
we're.
We've
done
a
lot
at
least
the
ground.
Workor
we've
got
an
operator
on
stand.
I
I'm
talking
about
the
data,
shelter
got
an
operator
on
standby
sounds
like
you've
identified
Services.
It
sounds
like
the
only
thing.
We're
kind
of
missing
is
the
actual
facility,
but
it
sounds
like
you.
You
kind
of
at
least
hinted
that
you
got
some
some
some
good
ideas
there
and
that
we're
we're
very,
very
close
in
that.
So
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
abandon
that
work.
It
sounds
like
like
we're
going
to
make
up
a
number
80
or
90%
of
the
way
there,
and
so
please
keep
doing
that.
I
I
think
this
is
something
that
that
Council
was
was
unanimous
on
when
we
put
together
our
work
plan
a
year
and
a
half
ago
and
I'd
hate
to
to
to
to
drop
that
or
stop
that
effort,
since
we're
so
so
close.
So
please
do
keep
going
full
speed
ahead
and
and
try
to
land
that
either
later
this
year
or
or
very
early
next
year,
thanks.
D
Yeah
I
I'm
definitely
interested
in
looking
into
this.
This
further
and
working
on
creating
one
of
these
alternative
kind
of
Sheltering
things,
I
think
it
would
meet
a
real
need
and
Gap
in
kind
of
our
our
Sheltering
options
as
we're
working
on
getting
people
towards
housing-
and
you
know,
was
intrigued
by
judge
Khan
saying
like
well.
D
This
could
be
another
option
for
folks
like
if
they're
coming
to
Community
Court,
and
we
could
say
well,
if
you,
if
you
head
for
the
save
outdoor
space,
you
know,
then
then
we'll
we'll
move,
resolve
that
issue
and
and
get
you
off
the
streets
and
into
a
safer
place.
So
I
I
I
would
like
to
move
forward
on
this
and
and
then
as
part
of
the
further
analysis
is.
D
If
there
it
seems
like
Denver
when
they
first
stood
up
these
safe,
safe
outdoor
spaces,
did
it
in
a
relatively
brisk
amount
of
time,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
like
a
a
version,
one
of
it
that
could
be
implemented
more
quickly.
While
we
continue
to
add,
maybe
some
additional
features
over
time,
but
to
still
saying
we
need
those
core
aspects
and
elements
of
it
to
be
successful.
Like
you
mentioned,
so
you
know
we
don't
we
don't
want
to
leave
off
the
247.
D
You
know
Staffing
and
and
some
of
the
other
aspects
of
it,
but
but
if
there
are
ways
to
get
it
something
up
and
running
more
quickly,
rather
than
less
so
that
I
think
that
would
be
to
the
best
so
definitely
interested
in
pursuing
this
thanks.
B
Thanks
Ain
I'm
gonna
call
it
myself
and
then
I
I
think
Nicole
and
terara
both
want
a
double
dip.
So
I'll
get
back
to
you
and
then
I'll
tell
you
what
I
think.
Maybe
the
indications
were
and
then
make
a
pitch
for
us
to
maybe
do
a
formal
not
of
five
at
the
meeting
when
Matt
and
lawner
back
so,
let's
see,
I
I
think
that
we
have
been
studying
this
option
of
safe
outdoor
spaces
since
at
least
2020
for
my
tenure
on
Council.
Thank
you.
B
Juny,
like
the
whole
time
I've
been
on,
Council
we've
been
studying
looking
at
it,
I
think
during
aon's
tenure
that
you
all
went
like
you
got
a
trip
even
to
go
to
Portland
or
something
to
look
at
at
options,
so
it
has
to
be
2015
2017,
some
some
something
where
we're
closing
in
on
a
decade
of
looking
at
this.
So
I
do
believe
that
there
is
urgency
to
this
issue.
B
I
think
the
whole
Community
is
is
unsatisfied
with
where
we
are
right
now
with
adult
unsanctioned
and
unsheltered
camping,
so
I
would
I
would
move
us
forward.
I
I,
don't
think
you
know.
I
understand
Nicole's
question
I,
think
that
it's
very
clear
in
chatting
with
community
members
who
are
unhoused
some
people
don't
want
to
go
to
shelters
like
one.
You
know
one
time
a
gal
like
showed
me
her
back
and
and
she
had
bed
bugs
on
it.
B
She's
like
I'm,
never
going
back
to
a
shelter
again,
I
will
be
in
a
tent
that
you
know
until
I
get
an
apartment.
So
we
know
that
not
everybody
wants
to
go
to
shelter
situation.
We
know
that
the
creek
is
not
the
the
ideal
spot
for
people
and
there
other
places
around
town
are
not
ideal.
So
I
would
have
have
us
pretty
quickly.
Follow
Denver's,
lead,
I
agree
with
Aaron
like
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
the
Platinum
level.
B
I
think
we
could
do
like
the
bronze
level
to
start
with
and
and
get
people
quickly
sheltered
who
need
it.
You
know
there
are
good
tents.
I
was
pretty
impressed
with
the
the
one
that
Megan
and
I
toured
in
Denver
poor
Megan.
She
got
such
an
earful
from
me
that
night,
but
on
the
ride
home.
So
you
know
I
thought
that
looked
good
enough
as
compared
to
where
people
are
right
now
and
so
I
would
not
take
a
lot
of
time
to
again
get
to
the
the
gold
or
platinum
level.
B
I
would
I
would
help
the
people
who
are
right
now,
sleeping
on
top
of
you
know,
rocks
that
are
very
uncomfortable,
like
we're
talking
about
leveling
and
and
trenching
and
stuff,
like
I,
think
that
there
is
a
a
a
faster,
a
brisker
to
use.
Aon's
word
Pace
that
we
could
use
to
get
there
that
that
doesn't
have
to
be
as
as
fall
in
on
that
and
and
short
term
right
now.
People
really
need
help.
We
we
talked
about
earlier.
B
There
was
an
incident
where
people
who
were
sleeping
outside
at
the
Bandshell
they
somebody
tried
to
run
them
over.
Just
within
the
last
few
weeks
like
that
people,
people
could
instead
be
in
a
spot
that
is
fenced
in
and
safe
and
and
has
support
so
and
the
other
key
for
me
and
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
costs
for
this
are
so
high,
is
that
I
think
services
are
so
important
to
the
housing
first
model
working.
So
that's
why
I'm
always
asking
questions
about
apartments
and
town
homes?
B
Hotels
like
what
are
we
doing
to
support
the
people
who
are
there
and
I
think
that
this
model,
from
what
I'm
reading
in
the
volume
of
expense
with
case
workers
and
supervisors
and
and
people
on
site?
Is
it's
going
to
be
expensive
because
they're
going
to
have
247
supports,
and
that
is?
Is
it
sounds
better
than
that?
What
people
are
getting
in
a
lot
of
other
situations
in
the
city,
so
I,
don't
know
that
I
would
call
it
inferior
or
a
step
down.
B
I
understand
that
the
shelter
itself
is
not
as
nice
or
expensive,
but
to
have
at
a
at
a
time
of
life
that
is
so
difficult
and
transitional
for
people
to
have
access
to
those
247
supports
I.
Think
would
be
beautiful
and
magical
and
helpful
and
will
help
people
get
into
the
next
phase
of
Housing
and
to
succeed
once
they're
there.
B
So
I
am
so
excited
that
we're
considering
this
I
again
we'll
at
the
end
call
for
us
to
maybe
do
an
out
of
five
of
because
I
don't
think
we
can
answer
this
question
I'll
get
to
my
math,
but
I
think
we
probably
have
to
formalize
it
at
a
council
meeting.
B
I
would
turn
to
terer
for
that,
but
if
we
are
to
go
forward
with
this
and
give
direction
to
staff,
as
the
question
is
asked,
I
think
we
probably
have
some
soft
Direction,
but
we
should
look
at
it
again
next
week
with
that
I'll
turn
it
to
Nicole
and
then
Tara
and
then
Mark.
J
Thanks
sorry,
I
forgot,
there
was
one
thing
I
had
wanted
to
ask
earlier
as
we're
considering
this
one
thing
that
I
think
will
be
really
important
to
us
to
have
information
on
is:
where
is
the
money
GNA
come
from,
so
we
saw
in
our
budget
study
session
a
couple
weeks
ago
that,
if
2A
passes
we're
going
to
have
about
5
$100,000
a
year
in
wiggle
room
in
our
budget
for
the
next
five
to
six
years?
So,
if
we're
thinking
about
starting
something
new,
what
where
does
the
money
come
from?
J
What
are
what
are
we
cutting
in
order
to
fund
that
I?
Think
it's
just
a
it's
going
to
be
a
really
important
question
for
me
to
have
answered
in
order
to
make
a
decision
on
this
and
and
I
think
along
those
lines
as
well.
Are
there
any
any
more,
cheaper
ways
that
we
can
incentivize
people
using
the
shelter
so
rather
than
sort
of
treating
it?
As
you
know,
a
luxury
for
people?
Can
we
like
people
to
stay
at
the
shelter
like
you
know?
J
10
bucks
go
and
stay
at
the
shelter
tonight
or
something
like
that,
and
you
know
I
I
chuckle
a
little
bit,
but
contingency
management
works
and
in
dealing
with
addiction
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
can,
you
know
just
just
think
outside
the
box
a
little
bit
and
think
about
whether
we
can
incentivize
people
to
use
resources
that
are
already
existed
and
if
that's
more
cheap
than
or
cheaper
than
setting
up
something
new
anyway,
I
think
those
those
are
my
last
two
things
that
came
up,
but
thank
you
for
letting
me
double
dip.
J
Rachel,
oh
and
Rachel.
Sorry
I
had
one
more
question.
It
was
just
I
just
want
to
get
clarity
on
what
it
is.
We
are
wanting
to
take
a
KN
of
five
on
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thanks
Tera,
the.
E
Merk
where's
the
money
going
to
come
from
where's
the
staff
going
to
come
from.
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
the
drug
addiction?
What
about
people
that
don't
this?
Why
would
they
go
there
versus
you
know
not
at
all,
and
how
do
we
keep
people
safe,
because
I
think
what
was
so
disturbing
to
me
it
like
you
what
happened
with
that
car
that
tried
to
run
the
people
over?
It
was
a
terrible
thing,
so
safety,
safe
outdoor
spaces
have
to
how
are
they
going
to?
How
are
they
going
to
be
safe?
E
You
need
staff
for
that
right.
So,
whatever
we
do
with
this,
it's
not
a
small
thing.
It's
a
big
thing
and
it's
an
expensive
thing.
I'm
not
saying
you
know
I've
always
said
yeah
pallet
homes.
For
me,
not
tents,
but
pallet
homes
are
a
possibility,
but
right
now
I
don't
know,
do
do.
Does
Kurt
and
Megan
have
it
in
them?
Do
we
have
any
extra
staff
to
even
consider
this?
Are
we
going
to
take
staff
away
from
what
we're
doing
right
now?
E
To
do
this,
I
mean
there's
so
many
and
of
course
Nicole's
biggest
point
is:
where
are
we
going
to
get
the
money
from
I
think
are
super
important
before
we
just
say
yeah.
Let's
just
let's
do
this
as
well,
because
do
we
have
an
AS
right
now?
Do
we
have
room
for
an
as
well
I
think
that's
an
important
question.
That's.
N
Oh,
this
is
going
to
be
really
short,
did
O
to
what
Nicole
said
did
O
to
what
Tara
said.
I
think
they
both
made
excellent
points,
and
you
know
to
I
I-
seem
to
always
be
the
Grinch
who
wants
to
know
where
the
money's
coming
from
I'm
delighted
to
have
somebody
else
bring
that
subject
up
because
I
think
it's
the
key
subject
so,
but
I
I
support
what
both
of
them
said
entirely.
B
Thank
you,
Grinch
wallik,
okay,
now
now,
thank
you
for
laughing
at
that
too,
and
it
was
nice
cross
cross
aisle
collaboration
there,
okay,
so
my
again,
the
question
that
we
were
supposed
to
answer
is:
does
council
wish
to
direct
staff
to
implement
F
or
further
explore
alternative
Sheltering
Services?
My
question
to
Teresa
is:
would
this
require
a
not
aive
or
an
item
to
be
held?
Sorry,
you're,
chewing
I'll
I'll
extend
my
question
to
give
you
a
moment
to
finish
finish.
B
What
you're
doing
there
would
we
need
to
do
this
at
a
at
next
week's
council
meeting
more
effectively
anyhow
than
a
study
session,
I'm.
A
I,
don't
remember:
oops
I,
don't
ever
want
to
be
Grinchy
as
well.
I
do
think,
and
we
have
talked
a
little
bit
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
understanding
the
ask
what
I
think
there
has
been
support
here,
and
the
answer
is
in
the
affirmative
from
the
majority
of
Council
currently
about
moving
forward
to
continue
to
explore
this
and
I
would
presume.
A
This
is
a
work
plan
item
to
add
that
we
would
need
to
acknowledging
the
urgency
that
we're
hearing
from
you
think
of
and
come
back
with
a
financial
plan
and
see
how
we
can
move
it
forward
with
the
both
with
seeing
what
resource
capacity
we
have
from
staff
and
also
seeing
answering
some
of
the
questions
about
how
quickly
we
could
move
forward.
A
If
we
were
able
to
do
that,
given
some
of
the
urgency
that
I'm
hearing
from
Council
about
trying
to
set
something
up,
and
so
that
would
if
there
is
in
fact
an
out
of
five
as
Teresa
has
suggested,
then
likely
we
will
need
to
come
back
with
you
with
a
with
some
of
the
answers
to
those
questions
and
due
haste.
B
So
what
I
have
tallied
we're
not
doing
anything
formal
tonight
is.
Is
those
who
expressed
interest
in-
and
you
know
a
yes
and
answering
step.
Second
question
would
be
juny
Aaron,
Matt,
Lauren,
Rachel,
ish
I
think
is
Nicole
if
you're
a
yes.
Let
me
know
there:
I
don't
want
to
misquote
you
there,
but
like
maybe
more
of
a
more
shelter
beds,
not
quite
sure
on
this
and
then
Mark
terab
Bob
kind
of
is
to
know
am
I
misquoting.
Anyone
on
that
Nicole
would
like
more
information,
so
yeah
and
I.
B
Think
and
and
maybe
there's
parsing
out
of
like
I,
think
there
are
some
who
want
more
information
and
some
that
are
in
the
category
of
go
ahead
and
Implement
and
I
think
that
there
there
may
be
five
who
want
to
implement
so
I
think
we
should
maybe
I'm
asking
CAC
to
schedule
that
for
a
formal,
not
aive
at
next
at
October
5th's
meeting,
knowing
that
Nur
is
going
to
say
in
her
grinchiest
voice,
it's
not
going
to
be
December
7th,
but
I'm
still
going
to
push
for
that
Bob
and
then
Nicole.
I
Yeah
no
I
I'm
in
favor
of
safe
indoor
spaces,
sis
but
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
safe
outdoor
spaces.
So
just
so
I
guess
I!
If
your
question
is,
are
you
in
favor
of
exploring
safe
outdoor
spaces
I'm
a
hard?
No,
but
I
do
join
Nicole
and
others
in
in
wanting
to
explore
safe
indoor
space
incremental,
safe
indoor
spaces.
So
if
the
question
is
SOS,
the
answer
is
no.
I
N
B
J
I,
don't
feel
like
I
have
enough
information
to
make
it
make
a
decision,
but
what
seems
like
it
might
be
the
right
time
for
us
to
have
this
discussion
is
next
week
when
we're
talking
about
budget,
because
this
has
big
budget
implications,
especially
heading
into
a
year
where
we
have
very,
very
little
wiggle
room,
and
so,
if
we
could
have
it
as
part
of
that
discussion
where
we're
talking
about
you
know,
this
is
something
that
we
want
to
add
to
the
budget
for
2024
and
then
what's
going
to
come
out
of
the
budget.
J
N
Nocole
I
think
you
come
over
to
the
dark
side,
but
there
are
two
questions
that
that
were
expressed.
One
was
implementation.
One
was
exploration
because
I
don't
think
it's
ready
for
implementation,
I'm
a
hard.
No
on
that
exploration,
I'm,
I'm,
always
eager
for
more.
E
Y
I
think
Mark
said
it
well,
you
know
I've
always
liked
pallet
homes,
because
I
like
inside
spaces,
they're
safe
for
they're
warmer.
They
have
locks
on
them.
That
type
thing
I
would
be
interested
in
exploring
pallet
homes,
but
especially
Sober
Living
homes,
more
sober
living
homes
and
more
homes,
transitional
homes
for
people
coming
out
of
jail,
indor
spaces
is
that
on
the
docket
or
is
that
included
or
what.
B
E
D
Yeah,
hopefully
we
can
wrap
this
up,
but
just
on
the
process,
question
I
think
to
Nicole's
point.
It
could
be
helpful
to
touch
on
this
in
the
budget
discussions,
but
we
would
need
to
schedule
a
separate
request
for
not
of
five
to
look
for
that
direction.
I
think
from
a
process
perspective
CAC
can
take
that
up.
B
A
B
This
was
my
last
steud
session
leading
so
thank
you
all
for
bearing
with
me
and
then
ner
I
had
one
more
followup
that
that
I
semi
flagged
earlier,
which
is
Maris
in
her
presentation,
mentioned
that
we
were
having
some
worrying
signs
of
sex
trafficking
and
then
I
had
a
a
person
reach
out
to
me
already
and
say
you
know
as
a
as
a
19-year-old
woman.
What
should
I
be
looking
for?
What
are
the
warning
signs
if
I'm
like?
B
A
I
appreciate
the
question:
I'll
have
to
get
back
with
the
chief
and
sort
of
take
a
little
deeper
dive
and
see
what
that
is,
but
certainly
if
there
is
something
we
can
share,
we
will
let
Council
know
we
move
on
that.
B
O
Yeah
I
wanted
to
make
one
comment
and
one
one
reflection:
if
that's
okay,
so
some
of
the
communication
that
we've
received
both
tonight
and
in
in
hot
mail
is
around
the
urgency
of
this
solution,
and
you
know
why
can't
we
do
it
faster
or
in
a
more
abbreviated
way,
I'll
just
mention
as
a
bit
of
background
to
that
is
so
we
have
two
city-owned
sites
that
we
could
begin
to
look
at
for
this
solution.
O
None
of
the
costs
that
we
put
forward
tonight
include
purchase
purchasing
land,
and
so
that's
why
we've
looked
at
City
own
sites
both
of
these
sites,
as
well
as
others
that
we've
explored.
They
all
require
Excel
to
put
in
a
a
Transformer
to
provide
electricity.
You
know
for
for
this.
Whatever
the
housing
or
the
Sheltering
solution
is,
you
know
water
sewer?
We
have
flood
planes
in
this
area
very
important
and
those
things
be
done
without
getting
a
civil
engineer
to
do
a
design
for
that
infrastructure.
O
When
we
opened
the
sever
weather,
shelter
on
30th
Street,
which
was
a
building,
we
spent
$450,000
getting
a
water
line
to
that
building
before
we
could
open
it.
So
some
of
some
council
members
and
others
have
question
the
costs
that
we've
put
forward.
These
are
costs.
You
know
really
based
on
real
life
experiences
and
I.
I
also
know
that
when
Denver
started
off
with
this
they
went
to
base
communities
which
were
parking
lots.
There
was
electricity.
There
there
was
water
there.
It
made
that
transition
to
that
service.
O
Very
quick.
Now
that
they've
gone
to
sites
that
are
open
Fields.
These
are
the
kind
of
challenges
that
they
have.
We
can't
have
electricity
going
to
a
site
with
extension
cords
you
know
going
to
to
tense,
so
there's
real
infrastructure
that
needs
to
be
put
in
place,
so
I
just
wanted
to
CL
the
idea
of
expediency.
Obviously
we
are
expedient
in
everything
we
try
to
do
so
we're
we
could
likely
open
it
on
a
on
a
seventh.
O
As
you
said,
Rachel
I'm
not
sure
about
the
month,
though
it
may
be
some
month,
but
seventh,
we
could
probably
guarantee
you
and
then
the
the
last
thing
I'll.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
those
of
us
in
HHS
and
I
know
the
other
departments
that
work
on
this
I
think
we're
honored
to
work
for
the
community
to
tackle
these
very
difficult
and
challenging
issues
that
relate
to
people
that
are
really
struggling.
O
And
while
it's
it's
tough
work
and
we
get
a
lot
of
input
from
the
community.
You
know
it's
it's
a
it's
a
real
honor
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
try
to
make
a
a
positive
impact
on
these
individuals.
O
And
lastly,
I'll
say
we
just
have
such
great
Partners
in
our
community
that
you
saw
tonight
that
they
actually
do
the
work
and
I
think
every
council
meeting
I
ask
for
community
members
to
open
their
checkbooks
and
write
checks
to
those
Community
organizations
that
do
this
work.
I'll
do
that
again
tonight,
and
you
know
we.
We
really
need
the
whole
Community
to
to
help
in
this
work.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
listen
and
reflect
on
our
presentation
tonight.
G
I
just
wanted
to
Echo
what
Kurt
just
said.
It
is
really
an
honor
to
to
be
able
to
participate
in
this
process
and
I
think
I
told
councelor
Wier
this
a
while
back
it's
to
be
able
to
just
work
on
these
problems
and
try
to
see
if
you
can
find
solutions
to
them
as
as
hard
as
they
can
be.
I
think
it's
just
great
that
we
have
the
opportunity
and
everybody
being
here
and
working
as
hard
as
they
do,
and
the
folks
at
HHS
are
just
unbelievable
how
hard
they
work.
So
I
really
appreciate.
B
Them.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
you're
doing
for
our
community
all
right
with
that.
We're
done
good
night.