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B
Okay
good
evening
and
welcome
to
the
june
8th
study
session.
B
Okay,
now
welcome
to
the
june
8th
study
session
of
the
boulder
city
council.
I
think
we
will
commence
with
ryan
who
will
discuss
our
interpretive
services
for
this
evening.
D
Okay,
we
do
have
interpretation
of
our
covet
briefing
this
evening
and
a
reminder
to
everyone
participating.
Please
click
mute
when
you
are
not
speaking,
and
then
this
is
also
very
important,
especially
for
presenters
to
please
make
sure
that
you
select
a
language.
D
We'll
do
our
best
to
not
speak
over
one
another
and
if
you
select
a
english
or
spanish
channel
to
continue
speaking
in
that
one
language
and
to
avoid
using
idioms
where
we
can
so
again.
Thank
you
for
selecting
the
language
that
works
for
you
and
remembering
to
speak,
slowly,
clearly
pronouncing
each
word
and
taking
a
breath
between
sentences.
D
B
You
ryan,
we
will
commence
with
a
couple
of
brief
announcements.
The
first
one
relates
to
covet
19
vaccinations.
B
B
Our
second
announcement
tonight
is
with
respect
to
2021
boards
and
commissions.
If
we
can
advance
to
that
slide,
we're
continuing
to
accept
nominations
for
applications
to
the
following
boards:
the
boulder
junction
access
district
parking,
boulder
junction
access,
district
travel
demand
management
and
the
beverage
licensing
authority.
B
If
you
are
interested
in
serving
on
any
of
these
boards-
and
all
boards
are
important,
please
view
our
boards
and
commissions
website
at
boulder
colorado.gov
boards
dash
commissions,
and
with
that
I
think
we
can
commence
with
the
study
session
itself.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
nuria
to
introduce
the
the
first
presenters.
E
Thanks
so
much
mark
and
good
evening,
everybody
we
have
our
first
presentation
as
a
covet
update
and
we
welcome
lexi
nolan
and
her
staff
and
our
as
our
partners
in
boulder
county.
F
Good
evening
and
thank
you
for
inviting
boulder
county
public
health
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
tonight,
we
continue
to
have
good
news
to
share
with
folks,
and
do
you
guys
have
my
presentation
or
shall
I
throw
it
up
myself.
F
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
just
a
sec,
great
okay.
Can
you
see
it
terrific?
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
presentation,
just
some
quick
updates
on
our
vaccination.
In
cases.
We
continue
to
look
like
we're
in
good
shape
across
the
denver
metro
area
about
67
percent
of
the
eligible
population
has
now
been
vaccinated.
F
You
can
see
that
we
have
reached
over
75
vaccination
in
a
number
of
geographic
areas,
and
those
areas
that
have
lower
numbers
also
tend
to
be
less
dense
population
areas
in
terms
of
specific
individuals
in
boulder
county
we
have
over
73
and
a
half
percent
of
our
popular
eligible
population
has
now
received
at
least
one
vaccination.
F
If
we
look
at
the
breakout
by
age,
we
see
some
really
substantially
excellent
numbers
for
those
over
30
years
old,
at
almost
80
percent
in
every
age
category,
which
is
fantastic.
F
Our
12
to
19
year
olds
are
now
over
50,
with
at
least
one
vaccine
20
to
29
at
56.7.
So
we
are.
If
we
could
achieve
these
kinds
of
numbers
in
the
30
and
above
age
group
going
into
the
fall,
we
would
be
in
really
remarkable
shape
as
a
county.
F
The
asterisk
indicates
that
it's
such
a
small
number
that
it's
not
statistically
significant,
and
if
we
look
at
our
cases,
if
we
switch
over
from
vaccines
to
our
cases,
we
see
that
our
seven
day,
rolling
average
continues
to
decline.
It's
now
at
about
7.6
cases
a
day
per
100
000,
which
is
excellent.
F
F
We
are
seeing
more
cases
in
longmont
than
boulder
proportionally
as
well
as
in
absolute
numbers,
so
we
are
continuing
to
have
vaccination
clinics,
both
in
longmont
and
boulder
and
across
the
county
in
various
spaces.
F
I
think
everybody
remembers
that
this
blue
line
here
indicates
a
the
level
at
which
we
would
snap
back
into
a
more
restrictive
approach
to
addressing
the
the
pandemic,
and
we
are
not
anywhere
near
that
blue
level.
Boulder
county
is
the
dark
red
line,
and
the
denver
metro
average
is
the
pink
line.
Above
it,
our
deaths
remain
low.
We
are
occasionally
seeing
a
death
that
is
considered
a
probable
cova
death,
but
those
numbers
are
becoming
more
scarce.
F
Those
freak
that
frequency
of
deaths
is
becoming
more
scarce
and
finally,
our
seven
day,
positivity
is
now
at
around
one
percent,
which
is
excellent.
We
are
seeing
the
replication.
The
reproduction
number
is
continuing
to
go
down
it's
well
below
one,
so
we
expect
cases
to
continue
to
decline
on
this
pathway
and
that's
our
update
for
tonight.
B
Thank
you
lexi.
Let
me
turn
it
back
to
council
any
comments
or
questions.
G
Think
about
lexi
good
report,
just
a
quick
question
on
the
20-29
group.
Of
course,
many
of
those
tend
to
be
cu
students
when
we're
calculating
the
percentage
of
vaccination
for
for
cu
students
is
the
denominator
the
number
of
cu
students
who
who
were
resident
before
they
may
have
gone
back
home
to
a
place,
that's
not
boulder
and
therefore
those
numbers
might
be
artificially
low.
In
other
words,
the
numerator
is
people
who
are
actually
vaccinated.
The
denominator
may
be
people
who
are
actually
not
physically
in
boulder
right
now.
G
F
F
The
the
vaccination
reporting
often
is
in
relation
to
a
student's
permanent
address
how
it's
listed
in
the
state
registration.
So
it
may
not
necessarily
be
reflecting
on
boulder
county
statistics.
So
we
do
try
to
put
a
little
bit
of
a
caution
on
that
20
to
29
age
group
and
in
fact
it
would.
It
would
even
relate
to
18
and
19
year
olds.
F
Also,
thanks
for
the
question
cu
does
have
a
mandatory
vaccination
requirement
going
into
the
fall,
so
we
are
confident
that,
even
if
you
know
the
data
system
is
an
imperfect
system
which
we
know
sometimes
it
is
that
we
will
be
able
to
catch
a
lot
of
those
students
as
they
come
back
into
boulder
in
august.
B
H
Thanks
lexi
for
being
here,
as
always,
the
one
thing
that
stood
out
for
me
from
your
presentation
was,
I
think,
slide
seven,
which
had
the
different
ethnicities
and
and
vaccination
rates,
and
it
looked
to
me
like
younger
hispanic
population,
was
25
or
30
points
below
the
average
for
the
county.
Is
there
a
particular
focused
effort
to
work
on
that
population,
which
seems
to
be
falling
pretty
far
behind.
F
Another
great
question-
and
the
answer
is
yes:
what
we
are
finding
is
just
that.
We
need
to
continue
to
provide
extra
supports
to
some
folks
to
get
access
to
the
vaccine.
It
has
less
to
do
with
hesitancy
than
it
does
with
just
making
it
as
easy
as
we
can
in
removing
barriers.
F
Employee
groups
that
just
might
have
extra
barriers
we're
looking
into
also
how
we
can
support,
because
we
have
such
a
wide
age
range.
That's
now
eligible
how
we
can
support
family
approaches
to
vaccinations
so
that
a
whole
family
can
get
vaccinated
at
once,
and
our
community
ambassadors
that
we've
been
working
with
over
the
past
couple
months,
which
are
community-based
organizations
like
el
paso,
el
centro,
peak-to-peak
and
some
other
groups.
H
Great
and
just
one
more
question:
do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
why
it's
seems
to
be
a
big
difference
by
age,
because
it
seems
like
the
older
hispanic
population
is
not
as
far
off
as
the
younger
hispanic
population.
F
And
so
we
have
made
some
adjustments
in
recent
weeks
to
make
sure
that
our
clinics
that
people
have
access
after
working
hours
and
on
weekends
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
support
that
space,
to
make
sure
that
if,
if
working
hours
are
a
barrier
to
getting
a
vaccine,
that
we
have
some
some
solutions.
For
that.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
for
those
who
are
using
the
interpretation
services
that
will
no
longer
be
applicable
going
forward,
and
now
I
will
turn
it
to
nuria
to
introduce
the
next
presenters.
I
Sorry
to
interrupt
mary,
but
before
we
do
that,
I'm
getting
a
email
from
a
constituent
saying
that
channel
8
is
being
spotty.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
we
can
do
about
that
or
if
that's
one
particular
person's
problem.
But
I
just
want
to
pass
that
along.
So
folks
can
look.
E
Our
next
presentation
is
a
quick
little
arpa
update
I'll
share
with
you
that
we
have
created
for
this
work
across
departmental
team.
It
includes
a
variety
of
directors
from
different
departments,
including
cmo
representation,
but
we're
really
happy
that
that
was
able
to
lend
us
mark
wolfe
who
is
going
to
be
sharing
the
presentation
and
has
been
acting
as
project
manager
for
this
particular
initiative.
J
Great,
thank
you
nuria
happy
to
be
with
you
tonight,
council
again.
My
name
is
mark
wolf,
senior
manager
of
economic
vitality
and
business
services
and
in
the
role
of
coordinating
the
city's
use
of
arpa
dollars.
J
J
J
Much
of
this
assistance
is
administered
through
the
state
or
the
county
and
I'll
return
to
that
point.
In
a
moment,
arpa
also
provided
direct
community
and
economic
funding,
including
support
for
the
arts,
regional
transportation
and
resources
to
address
the
digital
divide,
to
promote
economic
recovery,
arpa
expanded
the
payroll
protection
program
or
ppp
and
the
economic
injury
disaster
loan
program
or
idle
and
established
new
programs
in
the
restaurant
revitalization
fund
and
the
shuttered
venue
grant
program
separate
from
everything
mentioned
so
far.
J
J
J
J
Now,
apologies
for
all
the
words
here,
but
I
promise
I'll
walk
through
it.
Shifting
a
little
bit
to
the
to
the
local
relief
portion
of
this
state,
county
and
local
governments
are
all
receiving
direct
recovery
funds
based
on
the
size
of
population.
J
The
city
of
boulder's
allocation
is
20.15
million
and
we
are
scheduled
to
receive
the
first
tranche
of
funds
or
approximately
10
million
dollars
in
the
next
days
or
weeks,
the
second
tranche
of
funds,
the
remaining
10
million,
will
be
received
in
one
year
june
of
2022.
J
J
Second,
we
have
much
more
time
to
spend
the
money
in
this
case
all
the
way
through
the
end
of
2024.
If
you
remember,
the
initial
deadline
to
spend
cares
dollars
was
the
end
of
2020
and
last.
There
is
a
specific
intent
in
arpa
language
to
reach
the
communities
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
pandemic.
J
As
of
last
week,
we
are
still
operating
operating
under
interim
guidance
from
the
department
of
treasury
for
how
to
use
the
money.
However,
we
think
we're
in
a
pretty
pretty
good
shape
and
have
enough
direction
to
begin
to
align
our
funding
priorities
to
our
city
goals
and
to
ensure
our
process
is
prepared
to
apply
the
racial
equity
instrument
to
all
funding
recommendations
similar
to
how
we
approached
investment
using
cares
dollars.
J
Staff
is
starting
with
an
outline
of
guiding
principles,
including
key
funding,
areas
of
city,
organizational
and
financial
recovery,
community
recovery,
economic
recovery
and
transformative
infrastructure
with
the
longer
timeline
and
greater
flexibility.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
be
strategic
in
how
we
leverage
our
funding
to
stretch
impact
as
far
as
possible
in
collaboration
with
state
and
regional
partners.
However,
this
will
be
balanced
with
boulder
specific
needs
and
with
the
knowledge
that
there
is
still
immediate
need
in
our
community
for
sustained
support.
J
Our
immediate
focus
will
be
twofold.
One
to
identify
fast-tracked
efforts
that
align
with
community
goals,
including
areas
where
arpa
funds
can
complement
phased
restoration
of
city
services
based
on
revenue
projections
and
and
two
to
set
the
table
for
collaborative
efforts
that
meet
the
long-term
vision
of
the
community.
J
J
All
right
and
the
last
slide
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
proposed
timing.
As
mentioned,
we
expect
to
have
the
first
chancha
funds
shortly.
Our
next
steps
include
providing
the
short-term
funding
proposals
and
additional
guidance
and
detail
on
priority
funding
areas
to
support
the
long-term
recovery
later
in
july.
J
That
information
will
be
prepared
in
preparation
for
and
in
concert
with,
a
special
atb
in
august,
where
we
will
discuss
revised
revenue
projections,
potential
phase,
service
return
and
the
initial
use
of
arpa
dollars
as
funding
recommendations
are
approved
and
expenditures
are
made,
council
and
the
community
will
be
receiving
updates
through
the
use
of
a
similar
dashboard.
As
cares,
funds
were
reported
and
through
other
reporting,
as
required
by
the
federal
government
council,
will
consider
the
2022
budget
in
september
and
october.
B
Thank
you
mark
looking
for
hands
mary
you're.
First
then
junie
then
aaron.
L
You're
up
thanks.
Thank
you
for
this
presentation,
and
I
understand
this
is
a
an
evolving
presentation
on
how
the
money
will
be
used.
We
received
an
email
from
the
planning
board
and
again
I
noticed
this
is
a
broad
overview
kind
of
umbrella.
Not
you
know
not
very
focused
on
specific
items,
but
I
wanted
to
know
if
you're
working,
maybe
with
you
know,
planning
board
or
have
have
you
had
the
opportunity
to
see
some
of
the,
I
guess
not
necessarily
requests
but
opportunities
for
supporting
community.
L
For
instance,
some
of
the
you
know
the
ask
they
put
forward
was
maybe
helping
residents
with
critical
home
care
home
repair
needs,
whether
it's
mortgages,
taxes
and
utilities
assistance.
So
I
wonder
if
this
is
something
that
you
know
you
already
thinking
through,
or
will
you
be
working
with
the
planning
board
to
to
come
up
with
these
solutions.
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
your
question.
I'm
I'll
start
and
happy
to
yield
yeah
the
answer
to
this.
I
I
think.
Yes,
absolutely.
We
are
researching
those
potential
uses
of
funds.
J
We
are
working
very
closely
with
the
boulder
county
funders
collaborative
through
our
housing
and
human
services
department.
They
are
part
of
our
staff
team.
I
think
we
want
to
be
very
intentional
about
identifying
the
gaps
that
do
exist
and
investing
in
those
areas
so
you're
right.
It
is
a
process
we
we
are.
We
know
there's
still
need
out
there,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
need
gets
to
the
right
places.
L
K
Thanks
junie
for
asking
that
question
that
was
on
my
list,
the
my
other
question
has
to
do
with
infrastructure
and
what
projects
are
there
any
examples
that
you
are
currently
considering
in
terms
of
the
transportation
infrastructure
and
the
broadband
infrastructure?
Are
there
any
specifics
yet,
or
is
it
still
in
generalities.
J
J
I
think
the
other.
The
other
thing
that
we
would
like
to
prepare
for
is
a
potential
larger
infrastructure
jobs
package
from
the
federal
government
state
and
county
resources
through
arpa,
as
well
so
again,
it'll
be
a
matter
of
planning
well
and
determining
which
projects
are
in
prime
position
to
receive
funding,
whether
through
our
local
relief
recovery
funds
or
or
through
other
programs.
K
I
Yeah
thanks
junie
elsa
asked
one
of
my
questions
about
playing
board.
So
thanks
for
having
me-
and
so
it
sounds
like
mark
that
you
all
are
thinking
carefully
too
about.
You
know,
there's
lots
of
other
funding
coming
through
right
and
we
may
be
eligible
for
many
different
money
from
many
different
buckets
right.
So
I
assume
that's
that's
part
of
your
analysis.
Right.
A
J
It
is,
I
think,
there's
a
couple
examples
of
that.
One
is:
there's
grants
available
to
localities
for
continued
vaccinations,
there's
other
relief
to
regional
transportation
districts,
so
certainly
our
collaboration
with
rtd.
Those
are
just
a
couple
small
examples,
but
to
your
point,
there
arp
is
a
very
big
package.
Almost
two
trillion
dollars
and
part
of
our
work
as
a
staff
team
will
be
to
make
sure
we're
not
missing
out
on
those
opportunities.
I
And
then,
in
terms
of
council's
ability
to
weigh
in
on
what
the
priorities
should
be,
is
that
is
our
first
real
crack
at
that
in
that
august,
special
atv,
or
will
there
be?
It
sounds
like
the
earlier
updates,
might
be
just
one
way
telling
us
how
things
are
going?
Is
that
right.
J
I
That
makes
sense
I'll
just
encourage
you
all
to
maybe
leave
some
latitude
for
you
know,
council
input,
you
know
as
we
funnel
what
we
hear
from
the
community,
and
so
you
know
maybe,
rather
than
presenting
us
a
100
baked
here's
how
we'd
like
to
spend
every
single
dollar,
maybe
there'll
be.
We
could
have
some
latitude
for
a
discussion
on
on
how
we
spend
those
dollars.
J
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that,
and
one
thing
I'd
point
out
is
that,
because
we're
bringing
it
as
a
part
of
a
special
atb
and
before
the
the
2022
budget
process,
I
think
there
will
be
a
lot
of
good
opportunity
to
to
hear
from
council
as
to
what
the
community
is
saying
and
make
sure
we're
identifying
the
right
source
of
funds.
For
that,
whether
it
be
that
that
revised
revenue
projections
as
a
part
of
the
2021
budget
or
looking
forward
in
into
2022,
whether
that's
arpa
or
or
another
source
of
funding,.
G
Yeah,
just
building
on
that
discussion,
mark
that
you
were
having
with
aaron
about
timing.
I'm
sure
that
you
guys
are
already
thinking
about
this,
but
of
course,
we're
considering
this
summer
and
I
think
we're
going
to
make
some
decisions
in
august
about
our
community
culture
safety
tax
and
what
might
get
funded
there.
So
it
would
be
obviously
a
shame
if
we
put
some
things
in
the
community
culture
safety
tax
that
otherwise
could
be
funded
by
arpa.
J
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
point
and
we're
absolutely
monitoring
the
interplay
between
not
just
our
budget
process,
but
ccs
across
all
of
our
departments
and
finance
is
a
big
part
of
that
conversation.
G
B
Thanks
mark
any
other
comments
or
questions,
if
not
I'll
weigh
in
with
one
comment
of
my
own,
which
is
in
support
of
aaron's
comment,
that
there
should
be
some
a
robust
community
discussion
about
these
things.
There
should
be
some
opportunity
for
input
from
the
council,
and
I
would
urge
you
not
to
as
erin
said
bake
in
the
final
decisions
too
firmly
people
do
have
a
a
very
strong
interest
in
this.
J
Absolutely
appreciate
that
and
and
like
I
said,
we,
we
have
a
lot
longer
to
spend
the
money,
and
so
we
anticipate
much
more
process
for
a
good
chunk
of
money.
Okay,.
B
And
with
that,
seeing
no
further
comments
or
questions.
Thank
you
mark.
This
is
a
second
presentation
of
good
news,
I'm
beginning
to
really
enjoy
this
study
session.
If,
hopefully,
we
can
keep
that
going,
but
I
will
turn
this
back
to
nuria
for
the
next
presentation.
E
Thanks
so
much
mark
before
we
turn
it
over
to
our
guest
presenter.
Today,
as
we
turn
to
all
things
climate.
At
the
moment,
our
next
presentation
is
really
going
to
be
about
an
excel
energy
update
on
the
2021
electric
resource
plan.
E
I
I
wanted
to
frame
it
up
a
little
bit
as
we
have
all
received
a
lot
of
communications,
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
topic
recently
and
just
say
that
we
know
as
a
community
that
our
partners
and
ourselves
throughout
the
state
have
aggressive
targets
to
address
the
emissions
associated
from
our
electric
use.
We
ourselves
have
a
goal
of
100
renewable
energy
by
2030
and,
as
you'll
hear
later
this
evening,
aggressive
grows
around
carbon
emissions
as
well
excel
energy
who's,
the
electricity
provider
for
boulder
and
more
than
half
our
state.
E
Their
success
really
in
reducing
their
emissions
is
critical
to
us
as
we
think
to
achieve
our
goals.
We
are
therefore
pleased
to
be
joined
by
alice
jackson.
The
president
of
excel
energy
colorado
to
present
details
on
the
electric
resource
plan
that
they
recently
filed
with
the
public
utilities,
commission
or
puc
excel's.
Clean
energy
plan
will
underpin
the
necessary
advancement
of
the
broad
range
of
wind,
solar
storage
and
demand
response.
Resources
in
our
state.
N
Good
evening,
thank
you,
mary.
I
really
appreciate
the
introduction,
it's
a
great
summary,
to
start
with,
because
you're
exactly
right,
we're
at
the
starting
gate
on
the
conversation
of
what
this
is
going
to
look
like,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
sharing
with
you
all
tonight
what
was
in
that
initial
filing,
as
well
as
how
the
process
is
going
to
unfold
over
the
next
roughly
two
years,
as
we
walk
through
the
process
that
an
electric
resource
plan
goes
through.
I
also
very
much
look
forward
to
hearing
your
questions
this
evening
and
diving
in.
N
I
know
there's
going
to
be
plenty
of
them,
and
these
won't
be
the
only
ones
that
we
run
into
as
far
as
the
conversation
and
what
people
are
interested
in
are
curious
about
as
we
go
through
the
process
so
happy
to
continue
engaging
on
this
topic,
whether
it's
here
with
you
all
directly
with
the
community
or
with
the
process
that
we'll
be
going
through
at
the
public
utilities
commission.
But
before
I
do
that
I'd
be
remiss
to
say.
Thank
you.
N
N
Can
we
figure
out
how
to
go
back
into
a
franchise
agreement
and
work
together
towards
really
deep
carbon
reductions
on
the
system
really
focusing
on
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
energy
sector
and
how
that
impacts,
you
all
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
come
back
together
and
really
partner
to
show
different
communities
what
the
possibilities
are,
and
so
we
stand
here
today
having
an
exciting
conversation
and
fulfilling
some
of
those
commitments
that
we
made
in
order
to
share
details
to
get
the
filing
out
there
and
also
to
look
at
what
this
is
going
to
be
like
not
only
for
the
city
of
boulder
but
for
the
state
of
colorado.
N
I'm
excited
to
dive
into
some
of
the
details
with
you
all
today,
like
I
said,
feel
free.
You
know
to
write
down
questions.
N
I
know
we're
gonna
have
a
q
a
when
I
finish:
I'm
gonna
try
and
move
through
it
fairly
quickly
so
that
we
can
get
through
some
of
those
questions,
because
I
know
there
are
a
number
of
them
and
then
directly
following
my
presentation,
there's
going
to
be
a
specific
update
on
the
partnership
and
I
think
carolyn's
going
to
leave
that
here
if
they're
incomplete,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
dive
in
just
some
reminder:
basics
for
those
of
you
who
are
joining
us
new
from
the
community
on
the
next
slide.
N
You
know:
excel
energy
does
operate
in
the
state
of
colorado.
We
have
an
electric
system.
We
also
offer
natural
gas
services.
We
also
have
not
on
this
side,
but
a
small
steam
business
that
is
the
longest
continuously
operating
steam
business
in
downtown
denver,
and
so
that
is
another
piece
of
the
puzzle
as
we
serve
customers
here,
but
we
don't
only
serve
colorado.
N
We
also
have
seven
other
states
that
we
have
the
pleasure
of
serving
as
excel
energy
and
those
ranged
from
the
upper
peninsula
of
michigan
through
wisconsin
and
minnesota
over
to
north
and
south
dakota,
new
mexico
and
texas.
So
you
can
see
a
wide
swath
down
through
the
center
u.s,
where
we're
offering
our
services,
both
electric
and
gas,
in
many
of
those
different
locations,
the
climate
opportunities
that
we
have
and
our
carbon
commitments
that
we
have
made
are
across
all
eight
of
our
states.
N
I
of
course,
am
going
to
focus
on
colorado,
but,
as
we
all
know,
it's
not
just
colorado
that
needs
to
make
advancements.
It
is
much
broader
than
us.
It's
not
only
the
us,
it's
around
the
world,
so
the
broader
reach
that
we
have
the
better.
The
example
that
we
can
set
across
all
of
this
drives
better
climate
outcomes
for
all
of
our
customers.
All
coloradans,
but,
more
importantly,
everyone
around
the
world
so
figuring
out.
How
we
bring
these
puzzles
together
is
the
real
challenge
of
the
day
that
we
continue
to
look
at
next
slide.
N
Please,
when
we
look
at
specifically
colorado,
though,
can
we
power
the
economy
here?
Oh
there,
it
goes.
We
do
have
roughly
1.3
billion
that
we
spend
in
our
local
economies
on
an
annual
basis,
and
that
is
really
going
through
a
variety
of
opportunities
for
our
communities,
whether
that's
building
wind
and
solar
farms,
or
that's
operating
the
transmission
and
distribution
managing
the
rest
of
the
generation
fleet
that
we
have
or
the
pipelines
that
we
have
to
operate
in
order
to
provide
heat
and
comfort
to
our
customers
to
the
national
gas
system.
N
You
know,
there's
a
variety
of
investment
that
we
are
making
in
the
state.
We
also
employ
roughly
4
300
employees
in
the
state
of
colorado,
and
I'm
really
happy
to
say-
and
this
is
a
conversation
that
we
had
last
year
with
some
of
the
community
meetings-
is
that
we
spend
roughly
85
million
with
diverse
suppliers
here
in
the
state
of
colorado.
N
And
what
that
means
is
that
these
are
minority.
Small
women,
owned
businesses,
veteran-owned
businesses
lgbtq
a
variety
of
places
where
we
truly
cultivate
and
we're
increasing
this
number
every
single
year.
It's
a
specific
focus
of
ours
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
money
back
into
the
communities
that
we
have
the
pleasure
to
serve,
which
then
in
turn
engenders
the
economic
development
that
we
all
need
and
look
forward
to.
N
Last,
but
certainly
not
least,
we
are
the
largest
property
taxpayer
in
the
state
of
colorado
because
of
the
variety
of
assets
that
we
have
and
how
we
have
to
operate,
those
in
order
to
serve
the
electric
system.
So,
let's
ride
into
some
of
the
carbon
numbers
next
slide,
please
these
numbers
aren't
unfamiliar
to
you.
In
fact,
we
released
our
sustainability
report
just
recently.
I
think
it
was
earlier
this
week
to
talk
about
the
achievements
that
we've
reached
thus
far
across
the
corporation.
N
So
then,
across
those
eight
states
I
was
mentioning
previously-
we
have
achieved
a
51
carbon
reduction
from
our
2005
levels
in
2020,
those
were
the
actual
results
and
outcomes,
and
so
that
was
a
really
big
milestone
for
us
and
a
big
number
that
we've
been
able
to
cross
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
press
forward.
As
you
know,
we
were
also
the
first
utility
in
the
country
to
announce
an
80
carbon
reduction
goal
by
2030
across
all
eight
of
those
states
and
aiming
for
a
zero
carbon
system
by
2050..
N
Now,
good
news
is
also
in
the
state
of
colorado,
with
the
already
approved
energy
transition
and
generation
assets
that
we're
looking
at.
We
expect
to
hit
roughly
a
60
percent
carbon
reduction
by
2026,
and
so
that's
a
really.
You
know
good
trajectory
that
we're
going
on
here.
It's
not
just
like.
We
can
go
through
2029
and
hit
that
cliff
to
get
to
80.
It
is
a
continual
operation
of
transitioning
the
system
and
really
eliminating
some
of
that
carbon
from
our
generation
assets,
but
also
takes
the
renewable
resources
to
higher
and
higher
levels.
N
In
that
same
time,
frame
in
2025
2026
time
frame,
we
expect
to
be
delivering
55
of
the
kilowatt
hours
to
our
customers
from
renewable
resources,
but
as
part
of
2019's
legislative
session,
a
couple
of
bills
came
forward
that
laid
out.
How
do
we
go
before
the
public
utilities
commission
to
truly
look
at?
How
do
we
achieve
an
80
carbon
reduction
cost
effectively?
N
We
find
that
process
the
tail
end
of
march,
just
as
we
had
committed
to
in
our
energy
partnership
agreement
to
make
that
filing
before
march
31
or
on
or
before
we
did
end
up
making
it
on
march
31st
in
order
to
be
able
to
move
that
process
forward.
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
components
of
what
this
comes
to
next
slide.
Please
really.
N
There
are
three
main
components
that
we
focus
on
when
we
talk
about
the
energy
transition
and
what
we
need
to
accomplish
as
a
state
and
particularly
for
excel
energy
customers
prior
to
2030..
N
Now
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
first
one,
because
usually
it's
been
an
interesting
exercise
for
us
to
move
through
to
look
at
what's
the
chicken
and
what's
the
egg
transmission
or
generation
by
that
I
mean
is
historically
what
you
would
do
is
you
would
cite
where
you
needed
a
new
generation
asset
and
then
you
would
build
the
transmission
to
that
location
and
typically
those
generation
assets.
Historically,
you
know,
have
been
the
fossil
based
generation,
take
about
four
to
five
years
to
construct
and
go
through
the
process.
N
Now,
though,
however,
with
the
wind
and
the
solar
resources
only
taking
roughly
18
months
to
construct
once
they
have
been
approved
and
they're
ready
to
move
forward,
we
now
have
a
chicken
and
egg
problem
again,
because
the
transmission
is
now
picking
a
tad
bit
longer.
For
example
on
the
eastern
plains
of
colorado.
N
We
have
roughly
4
000
megawatts
of
wind
resources
installed,
but
we
don't
have
a
significant
backbone
to
deliver
that
back
to
the
city
centers
into
where
the
customers
are
living
and
using
that
we
have
largely
radial
lines
that
are
bringing
that
transmission
or
that
energy
back
to
the
city
centers.
And
so
we
have
to
look
at.
How
do
you
build
out
a
robust
network
to
deliver
that
energy
back?
But
we
have
to
do
that
now
before
the
assets
are
actually
cited.
We
know
where
the
wind
is.
N
N
Aside
from
san
luis
valley-
because
I
know
people
ask
about
that
one,
but
in
order
to
be
able
to
deliver
that
back
to
the
city
centers,
we
then
went
before
the
commission
and
said
here
is
a
backbone
of
transmission.
N
We
need
to
start
working
on
prior
to
knowing
precisely
where
those
wind
resources
and
those
solar
resources
are
going
to
be
built
in
order
to
meet
the
needs
not
only
of
excel
energy
system,
but
the
rest
of
the
states
or
some
of
the
other
utilities
as
well
in
the
state,
so
that
was
presented
earlier
in
march,
but
the
other
two
components
that
are
associated
with
this
plan
are
two
very
driving
factors.
First,
the
coal
action
plan
in
combination
with
the
just
transition
elements.
The
reason
these
two
go
together
is
first
off.
N
We
have
to
decide
what
we're
doing
with
the
remaining
coal
facilities
in
the
state
and
I'll
get
into
deeper
details
on
that,
but
just
as
important
of
looking
at
that
is
looking
at
the
communities
that
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
this
transition.
How
can
we
help
them?
What
do
they
want?
Do
they
want
to
be
centers
that
are
focused
on
energy
going
forward
or
they
do
do
they
want
something
else?
How
do
we
help
the
employees?
N
How
do
we
look
at
the
different
factors
the
tax
base,
and
what
can
we
do
in
order
to
solve
those
problems,
concurrent
with
the
closures
and
the
transitions
that
we're
talking
about
so
those
come
together?
The
third
component,
new
clean
energy?
It
goes
without
saying
that,
in
order
to
make
the
transition,
we
have
to
move
to
zero
carbon
resources,
which
means
we've
got
to
figure
out
how
and
where
are
we
adding
this
wind
and
solar?
N
N
This
is
generally
where
it's
going
to
be
going
on.
The
eastern
plains.
It's
roughly
560
miles
of
new
345
kv
double
circuit
that
will
allow
and
enable
roughly
6000
megawatts
of
renewable
resources
to
be
delivered
back
to
city
centers.
So
this
is
where
they
can
interconnect,
and
you
know
it
reduces
the
amount
of
distance
that
they
would
have
to
go.
It
goes
through
a
number
of
renewable
energy
zones
that
were
determined
in
the
state
back
in
the
early
2000s
to
mid
2000s
and
accesses
a
variety
of
areas.
N
The
geography
also
of
this
really
matters
because,
as
you
know,
we
have
the
monsoons
that
roll
off
the
mountains
during
the
summer
times
they
hit
different
areas
of
the
eastern
plains.
You
don't
want
everything
grouped
in
one
location,
from
a
geographic
perspective,
in
order
to
deliver
that
energy
back
to
the
customers
that
need
it.
So
you
need
a
very
broad
area
where
you
can
have
that
interconnection
and
you
can
put
multiple
resources
in
different
places.
This
enables
that
so
we're
excited
to
go
through
the
process.
This
is
before
the
commission
right
now.
N
We
expect
to
go
to
hearing
the
later
portion
of
this
year,
probably
a
decision
from
the
commission
early
next
year,
and
then
it
will
be
moving
on
to
the
construction
phase
in
order
to
get
it
ready
for
the
new
energy
resources
to
be
added
in
next
slide.
Please,
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
full
action
plan.
This
is
what
we've
presented
to
the
commission
as
the
initial
volley
of
here's
to
consider
the
options
that
we
have.
We
already
have
plant
announcements
that
we've
made
in
regards
to
retirements.
N
We
have
a
small
portion
of
joint
ownership
in
craig
one
and
two
and
those
are
announced
to
be
retired
in
25
and
28.
hayden,
one
and
two.
We
have
a
larger
chair
of
ownership
in,
but
we
also
have
two
other
co-owners
in
that
facility.
We
are
the
operator,
and
that
is,
we've
announced
retirements
of
hayden,
2
and
27,
and
hayden
1
and
28.
N
and
hayden
has
been
the
community
that
we've
been
working
with
a
whole
lot
to
talk
about
what
it
is
that
they
would
like
long
term
in
the
transition,
and
I
can
get
into
some
of
those
details
here
in
just
a
minute,
but
that's
not
all
of
the
plants
that
we
have
in
colorado
that
are
powered
by
coal.
We
have
two
others
pawnee.
We
are
recommending
to
the
commission
that
we
converted
to
natural
gas
by
2028..
N
The
pipeline
for
the
natural
gas
resource
is
really
close
by.
It
significantly
reduces
the
emissions
from
that
particular
facility.
It
also
has
an
end
of
life
of
roughly
2041,
so
it
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
time
to
really
work
on
transitioning
technology
to
get
to
zero
carbon
fuels
that
maybe
we
can
burn
in
combustion
turbines.
N
We
are
recommending
to
the
commission
that
we
move
the
official
anticipated
retirement
date
from
2070
to
2040,
as
well
as
to
operate
it
post
2029,
so
starting
in
2030,
roughly
a
third
of
its
capacity
factor,
meaning
that
it
would
only
come
on
in
those
times
when
we
don't
have
other
resources
to
fill
the
gap.
Now,
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
questions
about
this
one
and
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
concerns
from
various
people
saying
why?
Don't
you
just
close
it
now?
N
And
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
transition
for
the
technology
to
bring
things
out
of
the
system,
and
we
need
to
buy
just
a
little
bit
more
time,
because
those
technologies
are
not
ready
for
implementation
between
now
and
2030..
We're
hopeful
that
they're
going
to
come
forward.
N
However,
what
resources
are
going
to
come
out
of
the
competitive
solicitation
and
we
go
far
and
wide,
and
we
are
known
here
in
colorado
for
having
robust
competitive
solicitations
for
our
electric
resource
plans.
In
fact,
there
was
an
article
just
published
last
month
again
about
the
resource
plan
acquisition
that
we
did
in
2017
and
18,
where
it
said.
We
still
show
that
we
got
the
lowest
pricing
implementation
as
well
for
our
wind
and
our
solar
resources
in
the
state
of
colorado
that
are
currently
being
built
and
brought
online.
N
Nobody
else
in
the
country
has
beat
that
solicitation
and
the
pricing
that
we
received
for
those
resources,
we're
hoping
to
see
that
again
we
have
often
beat
the
nrel
pricing,
but
we're
also
putting
the
notes
out
there
to
various
industries
saying
bring
us
your
creative
solutions
bring
us
options
to
look
at
so
that
we
can
try
and
drive
even
further
beyond
what
this
initial
plan
is
presenting.
N
So,
let's
move
to
the
punch
line,
though,
if
you'll
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
and
the
price
for
the
next
slide
is
that
we're
looking
at
a
substantial
amount
of
renewable
resources
being
added
to
the
system.
When
you
look
at
the
numbers
here,
of
course,
you
have
to
start
with
the
baseline,
the
baseline
on
our
system.
Is
our
customers
utilize,
roughly
a
peak
of
7000
megawatts
annually,
or
I'm
sorry
the
peak
hour
that
we
have
so
7
000
megawatts?
N
When
you
look
at
what
you
have
to
build
on
the
system
in
order
to
satisfy
that
7
000
megawatts,
there
are
a
number
of
different
resources
you
have
to
have
in
your
arsenal
in
order
to
be
able
to
manage
the
reliability
of
the
system.
That
includes
managing
reliability
through
our
blizzards
through
our
bomb
cyclones
through
our
winter
storms,
like
yuri
that
we
had
in
february,
as
well
as
during
those
really
hot
summer
weeks,
whenever
it's
pretty
intense
and
there's
no
wind
during
those
time
frames,
so
we
really
have
to
balance
across
the
gamut.
N
But
with
the
plan
that
we've
put
forward,
you
saw
the
retirement
that
we
are
suggesting.
In
addition,
though,
as
a
solution
we're
looking
forward
to
bringing
in
and
adding
wind
of
roughly
2300
megawatts
utility
scale,
solar
of
1600
megawatts
battery
storage
of
around
400
megawatts
dispatchable
resources
included,
which
is
all
of
our
community
solar
gardens.
That's
the
rooftop
solar,
the
other
options
that
customers
install
themselves:
that's
an
incremental
of
1300
megawatts
between
now
and
2030,
as
well.
So
a
variety
of
pieces
of
the
puzzle
coming
together
here
now.
N
N
For
those
three
days
in
a
row
that
you
might
get
a
bomb
cyclone
in
when
the
solar
isn't
operating
and
either
the
wind
has
gone
to
the
point
where
it's
so
cold,
that
they
don't
turn
or
you
have
to
freeze
off
the
turbine
for
a
little
bit
or
the
wind
isn't
blowing.
So
those
are
all
options
that
we
have
to
build
in
order
to
ensure
the
robustness
of
the
system,
the
reliability
of
the
system,
as
we
continue
to
transition
through
2030..
N
So
that's
fine,
please
the
pipeline
for
our
customers
and
for
you
all.
Oh,
let's
begin
one,
five,
nine!
Oh
something
changed
in
order.
Oh
there
we
go
okay,
so
this
particular
one
is
the
punchline
for
our
customers.
I'm
really
excited
to
say
that
the
plan
that
we've
put
forward,
we
anticipate
delivering
an
85
carbon
reduction
by
2030,
as
well
as
that's
going
to
consist
of
80
of
the
kilowatt
hours
that
are
delivered
to
our
customers,
come
from
renewable
resources.
N
So
noria
you
were
talking
about
the
100
target
that
you
have
for
renewables
for
boulder.
That
means
20
percent
we've
got
to
close
the
gap
on
that.
Your
residents
are
already
doing
a
brilliant
job
with
their
rooftop,
solar
and
other
activities,
as
well
as
the
community
solar
gardens
in
the
area.
So
that
helps
even
more,
but
that's
something
that
we're
committed
to
helping
you
all
with
through
our
energy
partnership
agreement
and
figuring
out.
N
We
can't
just
whole
hog
go
for
all
these
transitions
and
then
break
the
bank,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
even
our
lowest
of
low-income
customers
are
able
to
afford
the
products
and
services
that
we
are
providing
because
they
are
life
essentials
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
of
the
puzzle
here
that
we
have
to
consider
it's
incredibly
complex.
N
N
In
addition
to
that,
these
targets
and
goals
not
only
meet
and
beat
the
states
greenhouse
gas
roadmap
expectations,
but
they
also
meet
and
beat
the
paris
climate
agreement
guidelines
based
off
of
the
studies
that
we've
had
done
and
the
analysis
that's
included
in
there,
so
really
exciting
outcomes
for
our
customers.
N
Let's
look
around
just
a
little
bit
of
process,
which
is
on
the
next
slide
on
how
this
is
going
to
work.
Oh
somebody
switched
things
around
on
me.
The
box
slide.
That
was
before
the
one
that
you
were
on.
N
Let's
go
back
to
that
one.
There
you
go
okay,
so
this
is
the
the
process
is
going
to
work
at
the
commission
in
our
erp.
There
are
two
phases
phase.
One
is
what
we've
just
presented:
it's
the
modeling,
the
technology.
It's
looking
at
the
different
options.
How
are
we
going
to
evaluate
this?
What's
the
forward
curve
on
gas?
What's
the
you
know
load
forecast
that
we're
predicting
between
now
and
2030?
What
are
the
sensitivities
that
we're
going
to
look
at
so
really
high
load
forecast,
so
assume
excess?
N
You
know
excessive
and
really
high
levels
of
electric
vehicle
penetration,
virgins,
low
load
forecast
where
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
transition,
so
those
are
all
things
that
we
have
to
present
to
the
commission
in
this
first
package:
individuals-
parties,
you
all
such
as
the
city
of
boulder
you
come
in
and
you
evaluate
the
data
and
the
information
we
put
forward.
What
the
commission
decides
in
this
first
phase
is
what
are
the
benchmarks
of
what
we
have
to
use
and
the
inputs
for
the
modeling?
N
What
different
scenarios
do
they
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
as
we
bring
information
back
for
phase
two
phase,
two
kicks
off
the
rfp
process,
so
that
third
party
developers,
as
well
as
excel
and
other
entities,
can
bring
in
bids
to
fulfill
the
needs
of
the
generation
side,
and
that
goes
into
the
model
under
the
constructs
that
were
decided
by
the
commission
in
phase
one,
and
then
we
come
to
an
outcome
and
an
answer
that
then
tells
us
okay.
What
is
this
going
to
cost?
N
That
pricing
is
obviously
going
to
be
wrong,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
actual
bids
that
we
receive
from
the
various
developers,
historically,
we've
been
very
fortunate
that
the
developers
bids
have
actually
beat
the
generic
pricing,
and
so
that
can
determine
the
volumes
of
the
different
resources
that
we
add
in.
So
even
though
I
said
2300
megawatts
of
wind.
N
If
the
bids
come
in
really
favorable,
it
could
be
25
27
if
they're
not
as
favorable,
it
could
be
2,
000
or
1800
same
thing
for
solar
and
those
things
are
going
to
balance
out
in
order
to
still
achieve,
though,
a
minimum
of
an
80
carbon
reduction
by
2030,
but
the
numbers
are
going
to
move
around
a
little
bit
and
that
will
be
determined
based
on
the
actual
bids
that
come
into
the
system.
N
So
we
look
forward
to
seeing
that
in
phase
two
phase,
two
won't
kick
off
until
probably
tail
end
of
q2
next
year.
So
in
2022
the
end
of
q2-
and
it
will
take
the
remainder
of
the
year
to
go
through
that
process
and
ultimately
get
to
a
decision
from
the
commission
for
the
next
fusion.
N
In
the
meantime,
I
mentioned
the
transmission
power
pathway
that
will
go
through
the
remainder
of
this
year
and
probably
early
next
year,
get
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
we
should
construct
that
power
pathway.
N
And
then,
if
that
approval
comes
through,
then
we
will
move
into
construction
for
the
remainder
of
2022,
so
that
when
the
commission
makes
the
decision
at
the
end
of
the
day
on
which
resources
are
going
to
be
built,
we
already
have
made
progress
on
the
power
pathway,
and
so
those
resources
can
come
online,
ideally
within
that
18
to
24
month
window,
but
then
also
staggered
throughout
the
remaining
time
frame
when
we
have
the
loads
and
resources
retiring
off
the
system
and
needing
the
new
resources
added.
So
that's
a
lot
going
into.
N
According
to
the
preferred
plan
we
put
forward
and
you
can
see
what's
happening
with
the
blue
bars,
it's
showing
the
percentage
of
renewables
delivered
to
our
customers
and
you'll,
see
that
55
that
I
was
mentioning
before
and
that
25
to
26
time
has
moved
up
a
little
because
we
anticipate
new
renewable
resources
coming
in
as
part
of
this
plan
and
being
online,
we
think
palin
or
in
some
time
in
25,
but
we
think
possibly
even
in
24
a
little
bit.
N
You
can
see
what's
happening
with
the
coal
in
the
black
bars
as
it's
tapering
down
significantly
to
about
four
percent
of
our
overall
energy
production,
and
then
you
can
see
the
natural
gas
as
well
as
what's
happening
with
it.
It's
coming
down
significantly
from
where
we
are
currently
or
where
we
were
in
2020,
as
well,
into
the
2030
time
frame
of
being
roughly
around
that
16
of
the
kilowatt
hours
delivered
and
think
of
those
hours
as
the
hours
where
the
wind
and
the
solar
is
not
available
or
we're
at
minimum
load.
N
This
is
a
dramatic
change
from
where
we've
been
over
the
past
several
decades,
and
this
is
taking
not
only
operational
expertise
to
get
there,
but
also
significant
modeling
and
technology
advancements.
But
this
is
also
not
the
end
game.
We're
continuing
to
look
at.
How
do
you
transition
into
getting
to
the
zero
carbon
system
by
2050
and
that's
a
strong
focus,
because
we
need
investment,
technology
and
time
now
being
focused
on
that
and
looking
at?
What
can
we
possibly
do
in
order
to
make
that
transition
and
get
there
even
faster?
N
Because
I
would
love
to
see
us
get
there
before
2050,
but
that's
entirely
contingent
on?
How
do
we
get
the
technology
to
advance
fast
enough,
as
well
as
customers,
to
respond
in
ways,
because
this
is
a
two-way
street,
but
for
customers
to
respond
in
ways
that
allow
us
to
avoid
even
more
of
that
carbon
production
by
varying
some
of
their
consumption?
N
So
there's
a
lot
left
in
order
for
us
to
talk
about
here,
but
I
think
we
should
truly
be
proud
as
a
state
that
we're
making
these
transitions
that
we're
setting
an
example
for
the
rest
of
the
country
on
how
to
look
at
it
and
what
you
can
possibly
do,
as
well
as
pushing
the
envelope.
Quite
frankly,
on
that
technology
side.
From
the
physics
perspective
of
making
sure
that
we
have
a
highly
reliable
system
while
we're
driving
these
carbon
reductions,
as
well
as
the
renewable
adds
to
the
system.
N
So
with
that,
I
am
happy
to
take
some
questions.
I
know
I've
dumped
a
lot
on
you
today
and
there's
many
more
details
we
could
go
into.
There
are
many
different
weeds
and
turns
and
corners
we
could
take,
but
suffice
it
to
say
we
continue
to
be
here
to
listen.
This
is
the
first
cut
at
an
opportunity
and
the
options
that
we
see
as
being
viable.
N
B
Okay,
thank
you
alice.
That's
a
very
detailed
presentation.
I
appreciate
it.
I
think
we
should
start
with
questions
from
council
before
any
comments.
Sam.
I
believe
you
have
your
hand
raised.
H
Thanks
mark
and
alice,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
I
plan
to
get
in
the
weeds
a
little
bit
so
but
I'll
start
I'll
start
up
high
and
say
this
is
a
very
different
conversation
than
conversations
we've
been
having
two
or
three
years
ago.
So
I
want
to
say
and
acknowledge
that
this
is
a
huge
step
forward
in
the
past
several
years
and
excel
has
played
a
big
part
in
that.
H
So
I
think
it's
important
to
start
there
and
levels
that
that
we
are
talking
about
doing
much
better
than
we
had
before
and
now
I'm
going
to
push
a
little
harder
on
some
details.
If
that's
all
right,
if
we
could
go
to
slide,
I
think
it's
slide
seven,
so
one
that
shows
the
new
resources
that
are
going
to
be
added.
H
It
retires
both
pawnee
and
comanche,
and
stops
coal
burning
then,
and
then
there's
a
bunch
of
impacts
on
that,
and
so
first,
what
I
want
to
ask
alice
is
you've,
got
these
scenarios
and
behind
them
is
a
model
for
each
of
the
scenarios.
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
understand
the
other
scenarios
that
aren't
even
shown
here
so,
in
other
words,
these
show
about
400
megawatts
of
storage
new?
What
did
the
scenarios
that
show
800
megawatts
of
storage
and
the
concurrent
reduction
of
natural
gas?
N
So
the
ones
that
are
so
just
to
be
really
clear.
The
to
my
testimony
in
the
case,
there
are
a
number
of
attachments
and
those
attachments
give
you
the
details
as
far
as
the
different
resource
additions
for
the
scenarios
that
are
presented.
N
The
reason
that
we
narrow
down
to
these
scenarios
is
because
the
others
are
immaterially
different,
and
these
were
the
most
effective
ones
for
us
to
bring
forward
in
those
manners
also
through
the
discovery
process
of
which
you
are
involved
in,
because
you
are
a
party
to
the
case.
You
can
ask
additional
questions
that
bring
forward.
You
know
other
options
or
you
know,
opportunities
to
look
at
different
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
N
But
then,
if
you're,
specifically
asking
about
the
scenarios
that
are
like
your
commission
or
the
different,
you
know
corners
of
the
boxes.
If
you're
looking
at.
How
do
you
stress
it?
What
are
the
different
options
that
you
want
to
look
at?
Those
are
all
included
in
extensive
detail
in
those
attachments,
the
reasons
and
then,
if
you
go
to
the
testimony
of
john
welch
and
of
jim
hill,
jim
hill's
testimony
talks
about
why.
N
Whenever
we're
looking
at
the
different
models
and
the
different
scenarios
that
you
run
initially,
why
some
of
them,
then
you
drop
off
the
list
and
how
the
ones
that
we
presented
then
covered
the
various
approaches
and
pulls
of
those
other
opportunities
or
those
other
scenarios.
But
you
have
to
cut
it
off
somewhere.
Otherwise,
there's
an
infinite
number
of
presentations
that
you
would
have
to
make.
H
Sure
and
so
I'll
ask
about
another
variable,
then
discount
rate
so
yeah,
you
know
one
of
the
things
I'm
interested
in
seeing
is
for
a
given
discount
rate.
What
are
why
did
you
narrow
down?
You
can
say
I
narrowed
down
because
of
price
or
or
however,
you
narrowed
it
down,
but
the
discount
rate
that's
used.
Typically
in
these
scenarios
is
about
seven
percent.
What
a
discount
rate
is
for
those
listening
is:
how
much
do
I
devalue
a
dollar
in
a
future
year
that
I
spend
on
save
fuel
versus?
N
Yeah,
so
I
don't
know
sam
for
sure
if
we
had
additional
runs
at
the
other
discount
rates.
N
I
don't
remember
that
through
the
process,
but
once
again,
that's
a
great
discovery
question
to
put
in
to
see
if
there's
a
different
look,
usually
that
one's
not
too
terribly
hard
to
update
in
the
modeling
to
get
a
better
look
at
what
those
impacts
are,
and
so
that's
one
that
I
I
think
that
you
should
put
in
that
direction
and
take
a
look
at
the
the
discount
rate
is
typically
set
at
the
cost
of
the
dollar
for
the
utility,
which
is
usually
the
whack.
H
N
Yeah
sorry,
I
would
say
one
other
thing,
though,
is
we're
getting
to
the
point
that
we've
hit
a
tipping
point
of
the
availability
of
the
generation,
because
we've
moved
to
the
8760
modeling
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
less
familiar
8760
hours
in
a
year
we
used
to
model
one
peak
hour
in
order
to
determine
you
know
the
resources
that
are
needed
on
the
system.
N
Now
we
have
to
model
all
8760,
because
the
variable
energy
resources
have
different
patterns
depending
upon
what
season
you're
in,
and
so
I
think,
the
deciding
factor
at
this
point,
sam
isn't
going
to
be
so
much
as
the
the
cost
impacts
of
picking
a
different
resource.
N
It's
really
the
availability
of
the
kilowatt
hours
to
fulfill
the
hours
of
need
and
the
hours
where
we
don't
have
that
generation
and
then
it's
a
cough
comparison
between
batteries
and
either
cts
or
an
alternative
resource,
and
so
that's
that's
then,
where
I'll
tell
you
what
we
need
is
we
need
to
figure
out?
How
do
you
get
more
hours
out
of
battery
storage
as
well
as
how
do
you
get
more
years
of
service?
So
right
now
it's
seven
to
nine
ish
years,
and
then
you
have
to
replace
that
battery.
H
Absolutely
agree,
and
absolutely
that
would
lead
into
my
next
question
so
I'll
get
out
of
the
weeds
here
in
a
bit.
But
my
next
question
would
be:
what's
your
storage
price
curve
right,
because
you
may
take
that
from
nrel.
How
does
that
compare
with
others,
because
it
you
know,
as
I
look
at
your
seven
scenarios
going
forward.
You've
got
essentially
the
same
amount
of
storage.
You've
got
exactly
the
same
amount
of
distributed.
H
Storage
you've
got
exactly
the
same
amount
of
utility
scale,
solar
and
then
your
wind
varies
a
little
bit
and
your
additional
combustion
turbines
that
burn
natural
gas,
powerful,
global
warming.
Gas
goes
up,
and
so
the
reason
I'm
kind
of
pushing
on
this
is
we're
close,
and
your
88
scenario
is
really
good.
So
why
don't
we
go
in
that
direction
and
why
don't
we
push
on
more
storage
to
push
down
the
combustion
turbines
because
you
could
get
to?
H
And
how
can
we
make
sure
that
the
cost
of
carbon
emissions
and
methane
emissions
reflects
the
price
we're
all
going
to
have
to
pay
and
really
the
next
generation
is
going
to
have
to
pay
more
than
us?
So
I
do
appreciate
what
you've
done.
I
do
want
to
push
on
all
those
variables
to
push
for
more
carbon
reduction.
I
I
understand
that
retiring
pawnee
and
comanche
3
will
be
a
little
painful,
but
doing
those
in
the
2028
and
2029
time
frame.
H
H
I
want
to
say
thank
you
again
for
it,
but
I
think
we
should
push
really
hard,
because
this
is
our
one
bite
at
the
apple
for
what
the
next
few
years,
and
so
let's
try
and
get
the
plan
right
and
not
lock
ourselves
into
technologies
that
will
end
up
stranded
so
I'll
stop
there.
I
don't
want
to
dig
around
in
the
weeds
too
much,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
to
acknowledge
that
boulder
loves
this
start
and
wants
to
see
as
quick
as
we
can
get
off
a
call.
So.
N
Mayor
this
is
exactly
why
I
love
coming
and
speaking
with
you
all
and
hearing
your
viewpoints,
because
you're
touching
on
things
that
we
challenge
the
team
internally
on
is
why
isn't
there
more
battery
storage
in
here
and
we
had
to
dig
into
that?
And
so
I
you
know
it's
something
that
we
are
definitely
looking
towards.
N
We
put
in
the
lowest
cost
curves
that
are
available
in
the
us
and
it
didn't
change
the
number
substantially,
and
so
that's
where
you
know
it's
like
okay,
there's
another
problem
that
we're
having
to
solve
for
that's,
not
selecting
that
battery
storage
come
in,
but
I
too
agree
with
you.
I
I
am
concerned
that
if
we
have
to
install
too
many
of
the
cts
to
meet
the
reliability
needs
of
the
system,
we
end
up
with
some
form
of
stranded
asset
in
the
future,
and
so
that's
why
we're
trying
to
balance
this
out.
N
That
being
said,
if
we
get
phenomenal
pricing
on
the
battery
storage,
when
it
comes
to
the
rfp
process,
it'll
win
the
day
right
because
then
it's
not
just
the
price
curve
that
the
model
is
using.
It's
the
actual
bids
and
the
prices
that
are
coming
in
from
other
parties
and
that's
going
to
change
those
numbers.
It's
going
to
change
the
carbon.
N
You
know
expectation
that
we
have,
and
so
that's
something
that
we're
excited
and
looking
at
it's
about
setting
this
model
up
correctly,
so
that
whenever
we
do
get
those
rfp
bids,
it
has
the
flexibility
to
give
us
those
outcomes.
So,
yes,
thank
you
for
the
feedback.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
understand
and
I
fully
expect
to
continue
to
be
pushed
as
we
try
and
figure
out.
What's
the
right
outcome
here,.
K
So
thank
you
alice,
and
I
appreciate
that
one
year
has
gone
by
since
we
first
began
those
conversations
and
that
we
are
at
this
point
and
I
have
three
questions.
My
first
question
has
to
do
with
the
beginning
of
your
presentation
when
you
were
pointing
out
how
the
transmission
in
terms
of
renewables
is
where
the
challenge
is
and
that's
what
then
becomes
the
bottleneck.
If
you
will
in
time
I
what
occurred
to
me
as
you
were
going
through,
that
is
that
that
seems
to
be
a
kind
of.
K
For
lack
of
a
better
term
old-school
sort
of
transmission
using
those
all
kinds
of
wires,
and
I'm
wondering
what
role
do
microgrids
play
in
your
erp.
N
No,
it's
a
good
question.
Thank
you
and
the
micro
grid
piece.
It
solves
the
reliability
of
some
local
areas
and
you
can
have
on-site
the
distributed
generation
located
in
those
various
micro
gridding
areas,
but
you
still
need
because
of
the
prevalence
of
where
you
build
the
most
robust,
the
the
lowest
cost
wind
and
solar.
N
It's
located
on
the
eastern
plains.
If
you
pull
up
the
wind
speed
map
of
the
u.s
or
you
look
at
the
solar
intensity
map
of
the
u.s,
those
are
the
locations
where
you
can
get
some
of
the
lowest
costing
resources
for
customers,
but
it's
not
just
that
resource
that
we
need
it's
also
the
ones
in
the
distributed
areas.
That's
what
the
1300
megawatts
that
I
was
talking
about
contains,
and
those
are
the
areas
where
you
have
more
opportunities.
N
For
you
know
some
of
that
islanding,
some
of
the
micro
gridding
for
the
reliability
and
you
know
other
opportunities
for
customers
that
have
higher
intense
needs.
For
you
know
consistent
high
voltage,
electricity
needs.
So
that's
where
those
fall.
It
doesn't
necessarily
come
through
an
electric
resource
plan
process.
That
is
more
of
a
process
that
goes
on
a
standalone
with
the
communities.
N
I
think
it's
an
item
we
have
on
our
list
in
our
energy
partnership
agreement
to
evaluate
and
look
at
in
the
boulder
area,
and
so
we'll
continue
to
pursue
those,
but
they
don't
typically
come
through
the
electric
resource
planning
process.
K
Thank
you
for
that,
and
then
in
the
I
was
really
happy
to
hear
about
how
you
will
be
working
for
a
just
transition
and
working
with
communities
that
are
whose
jobs
are
displaced
from
the
closure
of
coal
plants
and
and
that
you
would
be
doing
it
concurrently.
K
N
Now
another
great
question
and
I'll
use
hayden
as
the
specific
example,
so
we've
been
working
with
the
community
of
hayden
since
late
summer
last
year
to
talk
to
them
specifically
about
what
is
it
that
you
would
want
in
a
transition,
because
that
was
the
most
obvious
coal
asset
that
we
were
going
to
be
accelerating
the
time
frame
for
retirement,
and
so
we
needed
to
look
at
not
only
the
jobs
at
the
plant
but
the
tax
base,
because
we
we
fulfill
a
significant
portion
of
not
only
the
town
of
hayden's
tax
base,
but
also
the
counties.
N
So
our
first
question
to
them
was:
do
you
want
a
shorter
term
solution,
a
longer-term
solution,
an
energy-based
solution,
a
jobs-based
solution?
You
know
what
is
how
do
you
want
us
to
focus
our
time
and
they
asked
us
for
a
couple
of
things.
First
off.
They
are
very
concerned
about
the
tax
base
opportunities
because
it
pays
for
a
you
know
in
your
own
community,
many
of
the
different
facilities
and
services
and
needs
that
the
community
needs.
N
But
the
other
piece
that
they
told
us
is
they
said
we
want
you
to
really
focus
on
how
you
can
repower
this
location
so
that
you
don't
interrupt
the
fabric
of
our
community
and
what
that
means.
Is
it's
not
just
about
job
count,
it's
about
job
quality
and
type,
so
that
the
individuals
that
work
at
the
plants
or
at
work
at
the
mines
in
the
area
have
the
same
opportunity
to
stay
in
the
community
because
they
don't
want
them
moving
away.
N
So
when
we
did
that
we
started
looking
at
if
you
were
to
use
and
repurpose
the
1500
acres
at
the
hayden
facility.
What
options
do
we
have
and
we
put
together
a
connective
options
that
we
visited
with
them
about
that
range
from
a
wildlife
fish
hatchery
which,
as
you
know,
is
not
going
to
have
very
much
tax
base
or
many
jobs?
But
it's
something
that
community
loves
and
there
isn't
a
fish
factory
in
the
area.
Yet
they
are,
you
know,
have
significant
tourism
funds
and
revenues
that
come
from
fly
fishing.
N
So
it's
something
that
will
help
their
community
from
that
perspective,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
replace
a
significant
number
of
the
jobs
that
would
be
displaced,
but
it's
just
something
they
like,
but
all
the
way
to
the
opposite.
End
of
the
spectrum
of
we're
currently
working
on
looking
at
a
molten
salt
battery
storage
facility
and
mayor
to
your
point
about,
we
need
more
batteries
on
the
system
and
to
my
point
about,
I
have
a
problem
with
just
four
hours
of
duration.
N
N
We
all
know
that
we
have
another
problem
that
we
have
to
solve,
which
is
the
carbon
content
of
our
gas
pipes,
we're
looking
for
areas
to
do
a
hydrogen
electrolysis
process,
and
yes,
sam.
It
is
based
off
of
renewable
energy.
You
think
could
generate
that
hydrogen,
but
then
to
put
that
into
the
gas
pipeline
to
blend
and
to
bring
down
the
carbon
content
of
the
pipeline
and
then
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
one
of
the
other
problems.
N
That's
consistent
in
the
area
that
we've
had
to
work
on
for
years
is
wildfire,
and
how
do
you
do
wildfire
mitigation,
forestry
management
and
looking
at
the
different
options,
there's
great
rail
service
into
hayden
because
of
the
fact
that
we've
had
to
ship
full
into
that
area
for
a
long
time?
So
how
can
we
repurpose
those
particular
lines
and
we're
looking
at
figuring
out?
How
do
we
build
a
combustion
opportunity
where
you
take
the
mountain
pine
beetle,
kill
you
ship
it
from
around
the
state
via
rail
into
the
hayden
area.
N
You
combust
it
into
a
gas,
and
you
put
that
in
the
pipeline
we've
been
looking
at
science.
I
personally
have
visited
with
professors
at
different
universities
to
talk
about
what
is
the
methane
emission
from
decomposition
versus
combustion
and
using
it
in
a
pipeline,
and
can
you
get
decreased
carbon
content
from
that
life
cycle
opportunity?
N
The
answer
that
we've
received
is
yes.
We
also
have
one
of
the
reasons
that
mountain
fine,
beetle,
kill,
hasn't
been
moved
out
of
our
forests
as
much
in
colorado
is
because
there
isn't
anyone
currently
willing
to
pay
for
that
fuel
to
be
moved
out.
N
They
don't
have
anywhere
to
put
it,
and
so,
if
we
can
figure
out
how
we
can
solve
some
of
these
problems
now,
that's
the
most
complicated
one
for
us
to
address
but
addresses,
and
if
we
did
all
of
these
solutions,
which
we
have
space
and
ability
to
do
on
this
property,
it
would
then
allow
us
to
not
only
replace
the
tax
base
and
the
jobs,
but
it
would
actually
increase
them
in
the
community
of
hayden.
So
these
are
the
solutions
we're
looking
for
now.
N
What
I
will
tell
you
is
it's
not
cheap,
so
I've
been
on
the
phone
with
various
agencies
in
order
to
try
and
figure
out.
Where
can
we
get
outside
funding
to
come
in
whether
there
are
grants?
N
You
know
zero
interest
loans,
you
know
from
either
federal
agencies
we
put
in
an
foa
to
arpa,
you
know,
so
we're
really
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
drive
this
transition
but
at
the
same
time
support
the
communities
that
are
impacted,
so
hopefully
that
gives
you
just
a
rough
picture
of
how
we're
rounding
this
out.
We
have
a
community
program
and
a
community
advisory
group
that
we
speak
with
on
a
regular
basis.
N
Keep
them
updated
on,
what's
going
on,
receive
ideas
from
them
for
the
different
things
that
we
need
to
be
doing
and
they'll
be
intimately
involved
in
any
of
the
process
that
we
go
through
for
whether
it's
loans
or
its
grants
in
order
to
make
this
successful,
so
we
are
working
really
hard
to
try
and
figure
out.
How
can
we
do
this?
This
investment,
if
we
are
successful,
would
be
you
know
it's
a
40-year
opportunity.
N
So
it's
not
something
that
then
the
community
has
to
go
okay,
this
band-aided
us
for
five
years
now
we
have
to
turn
around
and
do
something
else.
Then
this
gives
them
a
longer
trajectory
for
opportunities
in
the
community
to
figure
out
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
it's
a.
I
hope
you
hear
I'm
excited
about
it.
N
There
are
pieces
of
the
puzzle,
of
course,
that
we're
going
to
have
to
continue
to
work
on
and
there's
a
long
road
for
us
to
continue,
but
it's
it's
definitely
a
solution
that
we
can
get
behind
and
figure
out.
How
do
we
move
that
forward?.
K
I
appreciate
it
and
finally,
in
our
next
discussion,
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
systems
change
and
the
role
that
governments,
the
private
sector
and
non-governmental
organizations
play
in
that
systems
change
and
how
what
the
levers
are
for
each
of
those
sectors,
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
you
plan
to
align
your
planning
to
a
systems-focused
approach,
such
as
what
is
presented
will
be
presented
to
us
tonight,
and
so
I
guess
the
short
question
is:
is:
will
you
align
your
strategies
to
be
more
systems
changed
according
to
what
will
be
presented
to
the
way
that
the
city
will
be
moving
forward.
N
I'm
not
sure
you
know
exactly
what's
in
there,
but
what
I
can
tell
you
is
that
from
the
energy
sector
perspective,
when
you
look
at
things
like
the
greenhouse
gas
roadmap
and
what
we
have
to
do
to
achieve
the
deep
carbon
reductions
across
the
industry,
not
just
the
electric
industry,
the
electric
industry
is
what
the
majority
of
the
other
pieces
are
built
on,
and
so
we
are
the
backbone
of
figuring
out
how
to
do
this,
and
I
think
that
we've
done
a
remarkable
job,
thus
far
we're
not
at
the
finish
line,
but
we've
done
a
remarkable
job,
thus
far
figuring
out.
N
N
You
know
conversations
that
we've
had
with
boulder
other
communities
in
the
state
of
colorado
have
already
started
that
what
I
call
systems
change
for
us,
but
as
we
then
look
at
the
transportation
sector,
it's
dependent
on
us
being
successful
here.
As
we
start
looking
at
the
building
sector
and
figuring
out.
How
do
we
continue
to
drive
down
carbon
emissions
and,
quite
frankly,
energy
consumption
in
those
very
buildings?
You
know,
how
are
we
going
to
do
that
on
the
backs
of
you
know
a
successful
outcome
in
this
particular
sector.
N
I
would
advocate
that.
I
believe
that
the
reason
that
we've
been
successful
in
color
or
more
successful
in
colorado
is
not
just
because
my
company,
but
it's
because
of
the
way
that
we
have
our
energy
system
focused
and
the
community
that
we
have
that
are
pushing
us
to
do
better,
and
so
I
think
that
we're
on
the
way-
it's
not
the
finish
line,
but
it's
something
that
we'll
have
to
keep
moving
on
and
I'll
make
sure.
N
I
take
a
look
at
the
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
discuss
with
you
more
specifics
about
where
the
city
is
going.
You
know,
as
I
become
more
educated
on
the
systems
changes
you're
going
to
be
putting
in
place.
K
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
I
would
appreciate
you
know
some
perusal
of.
I
believe
it
was
a
second
attachment
if,
if
you
don't
want
to
have
to
read
the
whole
memo,
but
I
think
that
that's
the
key
to
to
addressing
the
larger
challenge
of
of
climate
change.
So
thank
you
alice,
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
I
do
thanks
mark
hi,
alice,
hi,
everyone.
Sorry,
my
camera
is
not
available
to
be
on
tonight.
So
thanks
for
bearing
with
me
on
that,
and
thanks
alice
for
the
presentation
kind
of
following
up,
I
think
a
little
bit
on
what
mary's
getting
at
I'm
personally,
not
able
to.
O
O
I
guess
it
feels
like
we
have
a
lot
of
different
moving
parts
and
and
one
is
what
we
are
doing
internally
as
a
city
and
the
presentation
we're
going
to
get
next
from
staff,
and
I
assume
that
you
and
our
staff
talk
a
lot
but
we're
not
really
privy
to
those
conversations.
So
I
just
wanted
to
know
sort
of
maybe
from
staff.
O
If
that
is
appropriate,
to
ask
what
questions
they
might
have
about
your
presentation
or
sort
of
what
our
resident
experts
might
be
wondering
and
so
wanted
to
ask
nuria
if
that's
appropriate.
If,
if
staff
have
any
follow-up
questions
or
can
sort
of
tell
us
what
questions,
maybe
they've
been
pressing
on
with
excel
behind
the
scenes.
E
Sure-
and
I
appreciate
the
question
rachel-
I
know
that
staff
have
been
working
really
hard
in
partnership
with
alice
and
her
team
as
well
I'll
defer
to
jonathan
or
to
carolyn
if
they
want
to
jump
in
at
this
juncture.
But
I
will
say
that,
following
up
on
mary's
conversation
that
we're
actually
taking
advantage
and
alice
is
graciously
sticking
around
for
our
next
presentation.
E
As
we
talk
about
some
of
the
partnership
activities
that
have
taken
place.
So
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
about
from
carolyn
about
the
staff
side
of
the
partnership
that
has
taken
place,
and
then
we
have
both
staff
from
our
city
and
staff
from
excel,
who
are
open
and
willing
to
continue
to
talk
about
those
activities
they're
taking
in
concert,
but
certainly
defer
to
carolyn
and
jonathan.
E
If
there
are
specific
questions
they
want
to
bring
now
or
even
items
that
they
have
been
already
bringing
to
excel
and
want
to
share
with
council
in
terms
of
things
that
they're
looking
at
more
closely.
P
Thanks
nuria
good
evening,
council
members,
I'm
jonathan
cohen,
the
interim
director
of
the
climate
initiatives
department
alice.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
council
members
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
electric
resource
plan.
Obviously
this
is
a
topic.
That's
really
important,
not
just
in
terms
of
our
partnership
with
excel,
but
as
it
feeds
into
the
next
conversation,
I
think,
as
councilmember
young
really
referenced.
What
does
the
system
level
change
look
like
and
how
does
energy
really
fit
into
that
model?
P
And
so
I
will
commit
obviously
with
alice
and
our
team
and
her
team
to
really
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
presenting
that
systems
level
approach
what
that
means
in
the
energy
sector.
I
I
think
the
questions
that
our
team
has
has
had
on
the
erp
filing,
I
think,
are
in
line
with
some
of
the
questions
that
that
the
mayor
asked.
I
think
that
there
will
most
certainly
be
some
elements
of
the
proposal.
We're
supporting,
as
nuria
said
in
our
open
remarks.
P
I
think
there
are
still
some
questions
that
we'll
want
to
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
on
alice,
as
you
suggested,
during
discovery.
As
we
move
forward-
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
recognize
that
the
clean
energy
plan
is
not
a
single
thing
to
collectively
support
or
not,
it
includes
a
number
of
proposals
and
resource
proposals
and
the
backstop
of
those
proposals
is
really
set
at
bill.
236
and
thinking
about
how
our
state
is
going
to
achieve
the
80
emission
reduction
versus
2005
levels
and
moving
towards
the
100
clean
energy
resources
by
2050.
P
I
really
appreciated
you
hitting
the
piece
about
the
gap.
That's
a
really
critical
piece
for
our
community
to
be
thinking
about
what
does
it
look
like
to
fill
that
gap
between
where
excel
believes
it
will
be
in
2030
and
where
our
community
has
has
set
its
sites
to
achieve
a
hundred
percent
renewable
electricity
in
2030.?
So
we'll
we'll
want
to
explore
that
a
little
bit
more
deeply
to
understand
the
tools
that
we
have
available
to
us
and
how
we
can
wield
the
partnership
as
a
tool
to
be
able
to
fill
that
gap.
P
And
so
I
know
we're
running
a
little
bit
behind
on
time,
and
so
I
really
welcome
the
opportunity
to
dig
in
deeply
with
alice
your
team
through
the
partnership.
I
think,
as
you'll
see
in
the
next
presentation
that
we're
setting
up
a
nice
architecture
to
be
able
to
bring
these
kind
of
questions
forward,
and
I
just
really
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
a
beginning
of
a
dialogue
with
our
community.
P
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
questions
that
very
smart
people
in
our
community
have
about
the
erp
and
how
we
move
this
forward
and
how
we,
as
a
as
a
city,
who
is
a
party
to
the
erp,
can
bring
forward
those
voices
in
in
in
the
process
later
on
this
year.
So
let
me
just
turn
to
carolyn.
Is
there
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
add.
Q
No
thank
you
jonathan.
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
offer
is,
I
think,
we'll
have
a
better
idea
of
the
schedule
around
the
erp.
That
calendar
will
be
posted
towards
the
end
of
this
month,
and
so
I
think,
at
that
point
we'll
be
able
to
set
up
some
conversations
with
the
community
to
get
broader
feedback
that
will
help
inform
staff's
response
and
and
our
input
into
the
erp
as
a
whole
and
so
more
to
come
for
sure
on
on
that,
as
we
get
clarity
around
this
upcoming
schedule
for
the
whole
litigation
process,.
B
E
Great-
and
I
think
we've
transitioned
really
well
into
the
next
item-
and
I
just
appreciate
alice
again
for
giving
us
a
run-through
of
what
I
believe
I
promised
would
be
a
sort
of
a
dense
and
a
lot
to
unpack
presentation.
E
But
staff
also
thought
it'd
be
useful
to
give
council
brief,
update
on
the
city,
excel
partnership
activities.
So
you're
going
to
hear
there's
a
lot
in
motion.
I
know
that
we're
intending
to
give
you
a
high
level
overview
but
thought
I
also
put
some
context
for
those
perhaps
that
are
watching
us
from
home
and
are
new
to
the
process.
E
The
partnership
agreement
seeks
to
make
significant
progress
on
boulder's,
clean
energy
and
climate
goals,
and,
under
this
deal,
the
city
and
excel
are
working
together
on
a
modern
grid.
Planning
partnership
really
aimed
at
helping
the
city
achieve
that
100
renewable
electricity
goal
by
2030.,
so
carolyn
from
the
climate
initiatives
department
is
going
to
give
that
presentation,
and
both
staff
from
our
city
and
excel
are
available
for
questions.
So
without
anything
further.
I
will
pass
that
on
to
carolyn
great.
Q
Thank
you
so
much
nuria.
Thank
you
mark
and
council
again,
I'm
carolyn,
I'm
the
energy
manager
in
the
department
of
climate
initiatives,
I'm
also
serving
as
our
partnership
manager
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
joined
by
my
counterpart
from
excel.
If
you
jennings
who's
serving
to
manage
the
the
day-to-day
relationship,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
brief
update
to
you.
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
all
of
you
towards
the
end
of
february
to
talk
about
our
work
to
stand
up
the
partnership.
Q
Q
Q
I
think
everybody
was
familiar
with
what
we
called
the
project,
a
and
b
list
that
was
attached
to
the
energy
partnership
as
part
of
those
agreements.
Those
projects,
many
of
them
were-
were
highly
conceptual
in
nature.
Others
were
more
discreet
in
nature,
so
our
team
has
been
working
really
hard
to
take
each
and
every
one
of
those
and
provide
greater
color
and
clarity
to
them.
Really.
What
did
they
mean?
Q
Where
are
they?
Are
they
a
feasibility
study?
Are
they
something
really
ready
to
hit
the
ground
and
start
to
really
flesh
out
what
those
work
teams
need
to
be,
what
those
work
plans
need
to
be
and
starting
to
prioritize
those
so
that
we
are
ready
when
we
launch
our
advisory
panel
and
our
community
engagement
this
summer,
which
I'll
talk
about
some
more
in
a
minute
that
we
really
have
enough
color
to
really
have
an
informed
discussion
around
those?
And
so
that's
really.
Q
The
process
we've
been
in
and
I'll
give
you
a
few
highlights
of
where
we're
at
on
those
specific
projects.
But
we
are
standing
up
some
project
teams
to
really
flesh
those
out,
and
it's
been
a
really
productive
partnership
discussions,
and
I
think
we're
really
looking
forward
to
also
diving
into
how
the
erp
may
support
some
of
those
projects
as
well
as
it
moves
through
the
process.
Q
Again,
we
will
be
taking
these
as
everything's
an
iterative
process
working
with
the
community,
our
executive
committee,
our
advisory
panel
to
really
iterate
socialize
design
and
move
these
forward,
and
so
there'll
be
a
lot
more
conversation
about
the
projects,
as
they
really
start
to
emerge
from
this
kind
of
visioning
and
scoping
process
that
we're
in
right
now.
Next
slide.
Q
Q
A
and
b
list
consolidated
now
with
some
highlights
of
where
we're
at
we've
largely
been
these
into
ones
focused
on
electrifying
transportation,
our
buildings
and
cleaning
up
our
electricity
supply,
improving
the
reliability
of
the
system,
that's
in
place
within
our
community,
really
enhancing
kind
of
the
customer
side,
renewable
and
efficiency
programs,
so
that
we're
really
maximizing
the
benefit
for
our
community
locally
and
the
overall,
you
know
benefiting
our
community
centering
our
equity
goals,
seeing
how
we
can
put
new
programs
in
place
to
help
our
community
as
they
seek
to
improve
their
own
reliability
and
really
how
we
improve
our
overall
relationships.
Q
We
know
that
excel
is
really
ramping
up
some
work
in
our
community
and
we're
having
some.
You
know
bumps
and
growing
pains
that
go
along
with
that,
but
we
really
want
to
center
our
outreach
into
the
community
and
make
a
strong
reach
as
we
work
through
this
partnership.
So,
just
a
few
highlights
again:
you'll
see
projects
here,
like
chautauqua,
where
the
we
have
a
great
sustainability
plan
in
place,
we're
now
trying
to
division
that
into
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
discrete
projects
that
stand
up,
that
energy
plan.
Q
You'll
see
our
work
on
grid
modernization,
really
starting
to
scope
out
what
that
system
looks
like
where
our
points
of
interface
are
going
to
be,
and
so
there's
a
few
and
again,
I'm
happy
to
talk
through
any
of
these
more
specifically
I'll,
go
to
the
next
slide
and
really
talk
about
one
that
we
really
want
to
highlight.
That's
underway
that
we're
all
extremely,
I
think,
excited
to
see
is
our
first
one
percent
undergrounding
project,
which
is
actually
underway.
Q
Now
this
project
is
being
done
as
part
of
the
north
broadway
reconstruction
project
that
our
transportation
department
is
leading
and
we're
roughly
underground
the
segment
that
runs
from
from
violet
up
to
highway
36,
so
that
will
take
down
that
large
segment.
We
know
that
this
has
been
a
priority
area
for
the
community,
both
in
terms
of
improving
our
reliability,
as
well
as
facilitating
some
improvements
within
that
area.
Q
This
is
one
I
really
am
very
excited
to
talk
about,
which
is
really
standing
up
our
community
advisory
panel.
When
I
talked
to
accounts
in
the
community
back
in
february,
we
were
just
launching
this
project
process.
We
had
94
applicants,
amazing
applications
from
folks
throughout
our
community,
both
our
business
sector
and
our
residential
sector.
We
narrowed
that
down
and
and
talked
with
just
over
30
of
them
through
an
interview
process
and
narrowed
down
on
our
18
members,
who
we've
selected
really
representing
a
diversity
of
experiences
again.
Q
This
advisory
panel
is
really
representing
the
customer
experience
side
of
the
equation,
so
really
bringing
how
their
utility
interacts
with
them
and
really
representing
that
segment
of
our
community
as
they
provide
input
to
us.
We
will
have
our
first
kickoff
with
the
panel
we're
targeting
late
june,
we're
actually
bringing
on
a
facilitation
organization
to
make
sure
that
we're
hugely
successful
and
then
we'll
start
to
really
ramp
up
that
process
during
the
latter
half
of
this
year
next
slide,
please.
Q
Q
I
think,
as
we
heard
alice
talk
about,
we
know
that
we're
going
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
gap
between
where
excel
is
going
to
be
even
in
their
their
best
scenario
and
where
our
goal
is,
and
we
really
need
to
start
diving
into
how
we're
going
to
set
our
targets,
make
sure
we're
tracking
progress
envisioning
this
so
really
working
with
our
community
as
a
whole.
To
understand
really
what
does
100
renewable
electricity
truly
mean.
What
are
the
values
that
underlie
that?
Q
We
often
talk
about
this
as
synonymous
with
greenhouse
gas
emissions
reduction,
but
we
know
that
that's
not
necessarily
true,
so
really,
diving
into
that
conversation.
Standing
up
multiple
working
groups
to
really
vision
and
prioritize.
Some
of
our
solutions
bet
those
through
our
advisory
panel
and
some
of
those
will
turn
into
partnership
projects
that
we
work
on
with
excel
and
we
envision
some
will
be
ones
that
the
city
takes
the
lead
on,
because
we're
we're
better
suited
to
do
that
independently.
Q
Q
Yet
I'm
really
excited
to
hear
where
our
coven
numbers
are
going
and
the
opportunity
to
potentially
do
our
kickoff
event
in
person,
or
at
least
in
a
more
hybrid
setting,
and
so
as
we
get
handled
that
we'll
be
announcing
that
the
date
the
venue
and
the
format.
Q
This
will
really
be
the
opportunity
for
the
panel
for
the
community
at
large
to
meet
our
panel
interact
with
our
executive
team
and
our
project
oversight
teams
we'll
be
able
to
deep
dive
into
some
of
the
projects,
so
the
community
can
learn
a
lot
more
detail
than
I
can
present
tonight,
as
well
as
provide
opportunity
to
provide
public
input
again.
This
is
separate
from
even
the
deep
dive
we've
talked
about
on
the
erp
input,
but
this
is
bradley
over
the
partnership.
So
with
that,
I
will
stop
and
take
any
questions
from
council.
B
Well,
I
see
no
hands
at
the
moment
any
takers,
all
right.
Does
that
conclude
your
presentation
or.
B
Any
comments
from
council
all
right,
very
good.
Thank
you
for
that
presentation.
It
was
illuminating
to
say
the
least,
and
I
think
that
means
we
are
down
to
our
last
item
in
the
agenda
for
this
evening.
Maria.
E
B
E
E
Bolder
and-
and
I
really
mean
the
broader
boulder,
our
city
organization,
city
council,
but
truthfully,
our
entire
community
have
been
long-standing
leaders
in
this
arena
and
the
city-led
climate
action
is
evolving
and
shifting
to
address
the
challenges
ahead.
It's
been
exciting
in
my
short
time
here
to
learn
more
about
how
our
staff
is
approaching
the
work
and
how
they're
doing
some
really
deep
thinking
on
how
to
continue
to
be
effective
in
this
work
with
that
is
having
a
changing
paradigm
over
time.
E
So
tonight
you're
going
to
hear
some
new
proposed
goals
that
address
the
latest
science,
the
city's
approach
to
developing
a
strategy
for
the
next
generation
of
climate
action,
work
and
ways
in
which
our
community
will
be
brought
together
with
renewed
urgency
to
achieve
our
goals.
So
with
that,
I'm
really
gonna
send
this
to
jonathan
to
continue
to
frame
this
and
his
team
for
their
presentation.
P
Great,
thank
you
nuria,
so
much
well
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
and
good
evening
to
our
community
members
watching
tonight's
discussions.
It's
it's
honestly,
a
privilege
to
have
this
time
with
you.
I
know
we've
had
a
dense
conversation
already
tonight
and
so
we'll
try
to
just
continue
the
momentum
again.
I'm
jonathan
cohen,
the
interim
director
of
the
climate
initiatives
department.
P
Too,
so
there
are
several
questions
for
council
that
were
provided
in
your
packet,
we'll
have
them
on
a
slide
near
the
end,
so
that
can
guide
the
conversation,
giving
much
of
tonight's
presentation
from
our
climate
initiatives
team,
our
senior
policy
advisor
brett,
cancairn
who's
in
right
now
and
senior
energy
project
manager,
yael
gashan,
so
just
to
frame
this
a
little
bit
brett's
going
to
cover
some
of
the
key
insights
from
our
department's
work.
P
Really
over
the
past
two
years,
specifically
he'll
talk
about
the
challenges
and
insights
related
to
our
local
climate
work
and
the
evolving
role
of
cities
in
addressing
the
climate
crisis.
Yale
then,
is
going
to
pick
up
from
there
and
talk
about
the
proposed
revisions
to
our
community-based
goals
and
targets,
specifically
the
next
several
months
of
work
we
have
outlined
in
your
packet.
P
So
before
we
get
going,
I
have
to
do
what
I
always
do,
and
I
want
to
extend
a
little
bit
of
appreciation
specifically
to
our
exceptional
team
in
the
climate
department.
Many
are
here
tonight
to
address
any
questions,
and
I
I
have
honestly
believe
that
our
community
is
fortunate
to
have
such
a
dedicated
group
of
bright
and
driven
staff.
I've
also
really
been
overjoyed
at
the
commitment
and
collaboration
among
the
city
departments
on
this
critical
issue.
P
Of
course,
I
need
to
acknowledge
the
tireless
work
of
so
many
in
our
community
and
the
leadership
of
course
from
council
on
this
issue
year
after
year.
Finally,
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
here
is:
I
have
to
recognize
this
is
the
first
of
hopefully
many
climate-based
conversations
with
nuria
as
our
new
city
manager.
P
So
before
we
bring
in
the
presentation,
I'm
going
to
attempt
fade
a
little
bit
by
relying
on
technology.
Last
time
we
were
with
you
on
this
topic,
you
might
recall
we
had
a,
I
think,
a
skit
in
some
songs
by
the
young
women's
climate
theater
group,
this
time
we're
going
to
start
with
a
short
video.
So,
let's,
let's
see
if
this.
P
P
All
right:
well,
we
got
part
of
it
anyway,
we're
just
gonna
roll
with
it.
What
we
will
do
is
post
this
on
on
our
website
and
I'll.
Send
this
out.
So
council
can
see
it
the
the
reason
that
we
wanted
to
show
this
video
and
one
of
the
things
I
really
liked
about
it.
At
least
the
parts
that
we
saw
tonight
is
that
it
illustrates
that
that
climate
action
takes
on
a
lot
of
forms,
meaning
you
don't
have
to
be
a
climate
scientist
or
an
energy
expert
to
take
meaningful
action
on
climate.
P
The
point
of
the
video
is
to
show
that
our
residents,
our
businesses,
our
youth,
our
artists,
our
athletes,
musicians,
individuals,
neighborhoods.
They
continue
to
recognize
that
climate
is
one
of
the
most
salient
issues
of
our
time,
so
the
past
15
years
or
so
of
commitment
from
our
community
have
driven
local
carbon
emissions
21
below
where
they
were
in
2005..
P
So
those
reductions
today,
I
think,
are
especially
impressive,
given
the
growth
of
more
people
and
more
jobs
during
the
same
period.
So
that's
good
news
that
momentum
is
encouraging
and
it's
important
to
celebrate
our
successes
and
recognize
the
effectiveness
of
our
efforts
and
investments.
But
it's
equally
important
to
be
honest
about
the
risk
of
what
I
describe
as
a
shallow
transition
and
that's
one
where
we
address
some
specific
problems
and
their
symptoms
in
isolation.
P
P
So,
if
we're
going
to
create
the
conditions
in
which
people
and
planet
thrive,
then
we
need
to
start
designing
for
a
just
and
regenerative
future
and
we
need
to
challenge
everyone
in
our
economy
and
society
to
examine
what
their
role
in
creating
that
future
looks
like.
The
second
thing
is
we
want
to
focus
on
ensuring
just
transitions
mary.
You
picked
up
on
this
thread
in
the
earlier
conversation.
P
P
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
pick
up
on
thread
and
give
you
some
examples
about
how
we're
putting
that
into
practice,
and
the
third
thing
about
tonight
is
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
how
we
are
building
capacity
for
systemic
and
what
I
call
joined
up
thinking
so
to
make
sure
our
efforts
are
long.
Lasting
the
memo
outlines
how
we're
changing
the
way
we
approach
problems
in
solutions
within
the
department
and
the
city,
so
at
a
high
level.
P
What
I
mean
by
that
is
we're
investing
a
lot
in
building
capacity
with
our
community
and
enabling
change
makers
at
the
same
time
we're
getting
better
working
across
historic
silos,
those
boundaries
between
businesses
and
other
organizations,
public
and
private
sectors,
individuals
and
neighborhoods.
I
think
this
helps
us
acknowledge
the
interconnections
between
our
environment,
human
health
and
the
health
of
our
economy
and
society,
in
other
words,
supporting
local
climate
action
is
going
to
have
impacts
far
beyond
just
climate,
so
to
wrap
up.
P
So,
as
I
wrap
up
my
comments,
I
would
say
that
we
are
eager
to
share
our
new
approach
for
the
next
generation
of
climate
work,
including
a
package
of
proposed,
science-based
goals
and
share
ways
in
which
our
community
can
be
brought
together
with
a
renewed
sense
of
urgency.
We
think
this
approach
is
courageous.
We
think
it's
visionary
and
we
think
it's
collaborative
so
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
brett,
and
I
will
see
you
when
we
regroup
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
for
question
and
answers
thanks.
Brett
on
to.
P
R
Yourself,
good
is
my
slide
up
now.
Yes,
okay!
Well
now
you
can
hear
me
fantastic
well,
good
evening,
council,
it's
it's
actually
just
such
a
delight
to
see
some
of
you
that
I
haven't
seen
for
a
year
or
more,
and
thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
leaders
in
this
extremely
difficult
time.
I
also
want
to
thank
and
say
hello
to
our
community
and
to
actually
people
that
I
know
are,
are
viewing
from
many
other
places
tonight
welcome
and
we're
honored
to
have
you
it
is.
R
It
is
really
a
huge
honor
to
be
here
and
to
represent
this
department
of
many
bright
minds,
capable
hands
and
very
exciting
ideas
that
are
passionate
with
all
these
folks
and
but
to
also
note
that
we
are
really
the
reflection
and
the
workers
of
this
community.
This
community
is
what
has
driven
climate
action
for
decades.
Frankly,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
to
our
community
who's
been
so
invested
in
this.
R
I
hope
that
you'll
see
yourself
in
the
work
that
we're
describing
tonight
and
finally,
I
also
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
live
on
and
and
carry
on
from,
the
traditions
of
many
others
that
we
that
the
the
cheyenne,
the
arapaho,
the
the
ute
who
lived
here
before
us,
who
worked
so
hard
to
figure
out
a
sustainable
life
in
their
context
and
that
there's
much
in
those
living
traditions
that
we
still
have
to
learn
from
so
tonight.
R
I'd
like
to
actually
start,
though,
with
a
little
bit
of
the
legacy
that
this
community
has
been
a
part
of
really
for
over
a
hundred
years,
I
mean
think
about.
Chautauqua
was
really
a
part
of
this
effort
to
understand
the
challenges
of
that
time,
to
think
and
create
institutions
that
could
start
to
work
on
that.
R
We
carried
that
through
into
the
20th
century,
with
all
the
remarkable
work
that
was
done
around
land
use,
the
creation
of
the
open
space
programs,
the
for
one
of
the
first
walking
malls
in
the
country
and
then,
of
course,
our
commitment
to
actually
starting
to
work
on
things
like
recycling.
This
is
actually
the
first
one
of
the
first
curbside
recycling
efforts
in
the
country
started
here.
R
That's
the
original
eco
cycle,
bus
that
used
to
travel
around
with
volunteers,
picking
up
the
our
recycling,
the
remarkable
advocacy
work
that
so
many
residents
did
around
non-nuclear
proliferation
or
work
around
fracking
or
scientific
community.
That
often
stands
up
and
makes
itself
hurt
and,
of
course,
this
decades-long
effort
to
think
about
a
new
kind
of
energy
system
in
terms
of
climate
action
itself.
R
Our
work
is
literally
now
formally
at
least
about
20
years
old.
It
was.
It
was
the
the
lack
of
our
countries
signing
on
to
as
a
nation,
the
kyoto
accords
in
the
late
90s
that
led
a
few
places
like
boulder
to
step
forward
and
say
if
our
nation
won't
do
it
we'll
do
it
and
we
literally
helped
to
spawn
a
whole
new
movement
of
community-based
climate
action.
We
in
2006
we
were
one
of
the
first
to
pass
a
tax.
R
In
fact,
I
think
we
were
the
first
to
pass
a
tax
on
ourselves
through
our
surcharge
and
electricity
that
funded
our
cap
programs,
our
climate
action
plan
programs.
We
further,
we
renewed
that
every
two
or
three
years,
because
our
community
was
so
committed
to
that
in
2013.
Our
our
our
kyoto
based
plan
expired,
and
so
we
started
work
on
a
new
plan.
That
plan
was
based
on
the
new
science
that
was
currently
guiding
the
goals
that
we
have
been
living
under.
R
In
fact,
it's
a
part
of
the
strength
of
our
work
that
we
have
drawn
on
the
expertise
and
the
inspiration
and
the
sort
of
joint
effort
of
many
other
cities
through
networks
like
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network,
the
carbon
neutral
cities
alliance,
which
is
a
literally
a
global
network,
and
so
we've
we've.
We
felt
like
we
were
building
a
movement
that
was
intended
to
actually
spread
and
disseminate
this
work
to
many
many
other
places.
R
But
I
think
now,
after
20
years,
we
have
recognized
that
it's
time
to
reflect
on
a
few
of
the
core
assumptions
that
were
at
the
heart
of
how
we
were
approaching
climate
action.
One
of
those
assumptions
was
that
if
we
as
a
community
and
a
few,
others
could
actually
start
moving
out
in
this
way
and
finding
ways
that
we
could
reduce
emissions
and
make
that
kind
of
accessible
to
others
that
other
communities
across
the
country
would
follow.
R
And
then
a
second
major
assumption
was
that,
as
we
did,
that
that
aggregated
impact
of
a
growing
movement
of
cities
would
lead
to
significant
reductions
in
greenhouse
gases,
and
I
think
now.
Unfortunately,
we
recognize
that
several
of
those
assumptions
just
didn't
appear
to
be
true.
This
was
a
report
that
was
just
finished
last
year
by
a
group
called
city
scale.
That's
actually
former
sustainability
officials
from
many
cities
around
the
country
that
looked
at.
R
How
effectively
has
this
work
spread
to
other
communities
and
so
and
what
the
data
shows
is
that
about
eight
percent
of
the
communities
in
the
in
the
country
actually
have
adopted
some
form
of
climate
action.
Now
that
represents
about
30
percent
of
the
population,
because,
as
you'll
see,
the
blue
dots
represent
the
places
that
have
made
some
kind
of
commitment
around
climate
action,
but
the
red
dots.
Let
me
give
you
a
little
bit
closer
view.
H
R
R
So
what
what
this
report
that
just
this
report
that
I
was
just
referring
to
just
came
out?
It's
actually
a
consortium
of
climate
leaders
from
a
variety
of
different
jurisdictions
that
we're
looking
at
what
has
the
collective
emissions
impact
been
of
this
city's
movement
and
it
it
notes
that,
yes,
it's
been
an
important
movement
in
many
ways,
but
that
we
aren't
seeing
that
significant
accumulation
of
emissions
reduction
from
this
work,
and
that's
that's
not
just
a
few
people
making
that
assertion.
That's
what
our
science
is
showing
us.
R
It
was
called
the
global
warming
of
1.5
degrees,
and
it
was
the
report
on
how
we
were
doing
from
the
paris
accords
that
were
passed
in
2015
by
197
nations
and
basically
that
report
said
we're
not
going
nearly
fast
enough
and
in
fact
emissions
reduction
will
no
longer
be
enough
to
stabilize
climate.
We
now
have
to
start
growing
very
rapidly,
a
carbon
drawdown
sector
and,
finally,
because
we
have
not
moved
quickly
enough,
we
have
to
start
preparing
our
communities
for
very
significant
climate
change.
R
Unfortunately,
that
trend
that
was
noted
in
2018
has
continued
the
un
issues.
A
report
every
year
called
the
emissions
gap
report
that
has
basically
shown
that
the
nationally
determined
contributions
just
the
commitments
are
themselves
not
enough
much
less
the
amount,
the
action
that's
actually
taking
place
and
in
the
reports
that
were
just
issued,
they
said
that
we
would
actually,
we
will
soon
have
to
be
achieving
something
like
a
15
emissions
reduction
year
on
year
between
now
and
2030,
if
we
are
to
achieve
that,
keeping
our
warming
below
that
two
degree
threshold.
R
So
we
know
that,
unfortunately,
this
is
leading
to
is
creating
a
climate
emergency.
I
I
don't
want
to
dwell
on
this,
but
I
think
that
we
feel
that
it's
our
responsibility
and
our
role
as
a
department
to
share
with
you
and
with
our
communities
where
climate
states
change
stands
and
where
it's
headed-
and
we
know
this-
isn't
something
that's
happening
in
other
places.
It's
literally
happening
at
our
doorstep.
R
R
Now
it's
interesting
in
a
certain
kind
of
way,
though,
not
exciting
that
that
map
on
the
right
is
a
map
that
I
showed
council
in
2013.
It's
a
map
that
was
produced
by
the
national
academy
of
sciences.
That
said
what
would
be
the
increase
in
fire
incidents
for
every
one
degree
celsius
increase
in
temperature?
If
you
look
at
that
portion
on
the
mid
right
that
says:
j,
656
percent,
that's
the
projected
increase
in
fire
incident
in
our
territory
in
our
area
for
every
one
degree
increase
celsius
and
we're
starting
to
see
that
phenomena
take
hold.
R
Of
course,
it's
not
just
things
like
fire.
It's
also
the
things
that
those
fires
caused.
The
terrible
smoke
conditions
we
had
for
weeks
are
not
just
temporary
inconveniences.
These
are.
These
are
incidents
that
cause
long-lasting
health
impacts
that
we
need
to
start
planning
for
and
managing
for,
and
then
we
just
have.
These
kind
of
wild
and
sort
of
unpredictable
swings
last
fall.
For
example,
you
probably
remember
october,
it's
record
lows
in
october
26th
and
then
a
week
and
a
half
later
a
record
high.
R
R
Yet
this
is
a
report
that
came
out
from
the
union
of
concerned
scientists
that
was
talking
about
what
will
the
heat
conditions
be
in
cities
at
the
mid
in
the
mid
century,
and
it
projects
that
by
mid
century
about
a
third
of
the
communities
over
50
000
people
in
size
will
be
experiencing
over
30
days
of
over
100
degrees
in
temperature.
There
are
only
three
places
in
the
lower
48
that
can
experience
that
now
two
are
in
deserts
in
california
and
one
in
arizona.
R
We
believe,
after
consultation
with
a
lot
of
different
places
and
parties
and
looking
at
our
own
experience,
that
the
fundamental
element
of
this
is
thinking
about
it
from
a
systems
perspective.
There
are
really
two
areas.
We
think
that
we
need
to
reconsider
our
climate
action,
both
the
scope
of
what
climate
action
is
and
the
the
focus
of
our
actions.
So
in
terms
of
that
scope
in
like
when
I
joined
the
city
in
2013,
climate
action
was
entirely
about
managing
energy
systems
decarbonizing
our
energy
systems.
R
It's
still
obviously
extremely
important,
all
those
things
that
we
have
been
doing
and
need
to
continue
to
do
more
and
all
those
things
that
alice's
team
will
hopefully
really
put
the
pedal
to
the
metal
on.
But
now,
as
we've
said,
we
also
have
to
prepare
for
the
inevitable
climate
change.
That's
going
to
take
place
for
decades
to
come
and,
as
jonathan
was
emphasizing,
we
have
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
recognizes
both
the
historical
inequities
and
works
in
every
way
possible
to
create
an
equitable
outcome
going
forward
in
terms
of
resilience.
R
We
are
already
starting
to
ramp
that
up
in
a
variety
of
ways.
This
is
work,
we're
doing
with
boulder
county
to
start
to
take
that
question
of
how
do
we
absorb
adapt
and
transform
these
change
factors
right
down
to
the
neighborhood
level?
And
so
we
will
be
hearing
a
lot
more
about
this
work
in
months
to
come
in
terms
of
resilience
itself.
It's
about
integra
in
terms
of
equity
itself.
R
It's
about
integrating
core
concepts
like
inclusive
representation,
in
all
the
things
that
we're
doing
equitable
distribution
of
the
benefits
and
costs
of
what
we're
doing,
funding
allocations
that
recognize
the
historical
inequities
and
ways
that
we
actually
also
start
to
represent
the
generations
to
come.
Now.
There
are
a
few
other
insights
that
I
just
want
to
review,
because
I
think
they
help
us
shape
about
our
next
steps
and
where
we
go
again,
we
started
with
energy
systems.
That
was,
and
I
think,
we've
made
in
many
ways
progress.
R
R
However,
we've
come
to
realize
that,
surrounding
those
causal
factors
are
other
dynamics
that
hold
those
causal
factors
in
place.
Things
like
the
market,
things
like
the
knowledge
and
technology,
that's
available
things
like
the
policies
and
laws
that
basically
set
the
stage
that
the
rules
of
the
game
and,
of
course,
just
our
norms
and
culture
so
and
all
of
those
are
interactive
to
one
another.
R
R
So
now
we
start
to
see
that
these
things
are
interwoven
together
that
the
causal
factors
of
climate
change,
energy
systems,
material
economy,
ecosystems,
are
influenced
and
shaped
by
those
larger
forces,
and
so
what
we're
suggesting
through
the
presentation
in
the
memo
is
that
we
need
to
start
focusing
even
more
because
we
have
been
to
some
extent
even
more
on
those
fundamental
systems
drivers.
So
I
know
that's
a
little
abstract.
So,
let's
try
to
make
it
more
concrete.
Let's
talk
about
a
particular
instance,
getting
off
methane,
natural
suppose,
so-called
natural
gas.
R
Why
do
we
have
this
problem?
Well,
in
part
because
of
these
system.
Drivers
in
markets,
for
example,
methane,
is
cheap.
It's
cheap
for
a
whole
bunch
of
reasons
that
have
to
do
with
subsidies
and
other
ways
that
we
have
made
it
cheap.
That
was
a
priority
for
our
society
for
a
long
time.
It
made
a
lot
of
sense,
but
it
no
longer
makes
sense.
However,
it's
still
the
way
the
system
is
working,
knowledge
and
technology.
Let's
take
the
example
of
how
we
get
our
homes
off
natural
gas
and
onto
things
like
high
efficiency,
heat
pumps.
R
We
ran
a
an
adoption
program
in
2014
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about,
but
we've
soon
discovered
that
there
aren't
good
solutions
to
all
the
cases
in
which
we
want
to
change
out
that
natural
gas.
We
need
more
of
that
knowledge
and
technology
to
do
that
in
terms
of
policy.
We
still
have
policies
that
are
enabling
and
supporting
the
build
out
of
the
infrastructure
to
use
methane
gas.
R
When,
if
we
didn't
want
that
to
be
used,
then
we
shouldn't
be
building
that
infrastructure
and
finally
things
like
norms
and
culture
like
people,
you
might
be
one
of
them
say
like
well.
I
just
can't
imagine
cooking
without
my
gas
range,
even
though,
as
you
may
know,
the
the
science
and
the
the
health
analysis
recently
has
been
showing
that
the
use
of
of
natural
methane
gas
ranges
in
homes
is
one
of
the
biggest
sources
of
indoor
air
pollution.
R
That's
causing
a
lot
of
health
problems,
so
then,
how
would
we
use
a
systems
approach
to
actually
get
at
this
issue?
Well
in
terms
of
the
sort
of
market
failure
of
making
methane
really
cheap.
One
of
the
ways
is
by
subsidizing
and
making
more
more
affordable
that
heat
pump
technology.
So
that's
what
we
started
to
do
in
2014
and
learned
a
lot
about
what
it
would
take
to
make
that
heat
pump
choice.
The
choice
that
people
would
make
there's
also
this
issue
again
of
getting
better
solutions
in
place.
R
So
we
work
with
manufacturers
like
mitsubishi
and
have
started
to
actually
stimulate
them,
not
only
developing
new
technology
but
bringing
technologies
that
they've
already
developed
in
asia
or
in
europe
into
our
marketplace.
In
terms
of
laws
and
regulations,
we
need
coordinated
action
to
start
making
the
transition
to
these
electric
options.
R
The
way
the
system
works,
whether
that's
massive
electric
ready
work
across
all
the
houses,
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
electrical
panels
that
make
it
ready
or
finding
ways
that
we
remove
all
those
tax
loopholes
and
subsidies
that
are
currently
making
gas
cheaper
than
it
should
be.
And,
finally,
we
need
to
be
doing
education
and
outreach
and
starting
to
talk
about
what
it
really
means
to
continue
to
use
gas
and
how
much
healthier
we
might
be
if
we
weren't.
R
So
this
isn't
just
about
the
strategy
that
the
city
uses
the
the
the
argument
is
actually
that
there
is
a
systems-based
approach
for
every
sector
of
our
society.
Now,
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
go
through
each
one
of
those
tonight,
but
I
did
just
want
to
illustrate
this
a
little
bit
more
by
taking
one
of
these
sectors.
Let's
just
think
about
ourselves
as
individuals.
R
How
do
we
act
in
a
way
that
actually
changes
systems?
Well,
in
the
case
of
the
market,
we
have
seen
very
very
significant
examples,
whether
it's
apartheid
or
others,
where,
when
individuals
start
to
work
together
to
do
boycotts,
bycots
or
other
forms
of
investment
or
disinvestment
that
can
move
markets.
It's
one
of
the
reasons
why
coal
investments
in
some
places
are
no
longer
going
forward,
because
the
bank
of
england,
pressured
by
its
shareholders,
said
we
aren't
going
to
continue
to
invest
in
those
also
in
terms
of
knowledge
and
technology.
R
Our
community
is
a
perfect
example
of
this
kind
of
systems.
Action
where
people
say
you
know,
I
have
the
resources
to
be
a
part
of
a
pilot
or
I'm
going
to
adopt
a
new
technology
that
might
be
a
little
bit
more
expensive
or
maybe
I'm
not
sure,
that's
going
to
work
exactly
the
way
I
wanted
to.
But
I
know
that
if
we
can
make
this
work,
it
will
be
a
game
changer
in
the
broader
market
in
terms
of
policy
and
law.
R
Obviously,
first
step
vote,
but
there's
lots
of
other
levels
of
how
we
can
engage
in
that
policy
process,
both
locally
state
level
and
nationally
and
finally,
in
terms
of
norms
and
culture.
We
need
to
be
visible
to
one
another.
We
need
to
engage
one
another,
both
directly
face
to
face
with
whether
it's
letters
to
the
editor.
We
need
to
have
conversations
with
each
other
about
what
we
really
want,
and
that
includes
by
the
way,
listening
well
to
others
who
have
views
that
aren't
the
same
as
ours.
R
So,
let's
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
this
looks
like
in
practice
and
again
we're
going
to
be
building
on
things
that
we've
already
been
doing,
but
starting
to
focus
even
more
in
those
places.
So
I
would
call
out
one
of
the
really
frankly
game-changing
pieces
that
the
city
of
boulder
and
boulder
county
initiated
about
four
years
ago
was
the
colorado
communities
for
climate
action.
Up
to
that
point,
boulder
and
boulder
county.
R
We
would
sometimes
form
together
to
try
to
have
an
influence
on
the
state
policies,
but
when
we
finally
realized
we
need
more
of
our
local
jurisdictions
coming
together
around
this,
and
we
started
to
say,
would
you
come
together?
Would
could
we
form
a
common
policy
agenda
and,
in
fact
started
with
5,
then
7,
then
14
and
now
it's
over
30?
I
think
almost
40
communities
around
the
country,
the
state
and
we
are
having
a
significant
policy
influence
at
the
state
level.
R
Legally.
You
might
remember
that
in
2018
we
did
this
audacious
thing,
along
with
the
county
again
of
filing
a
lawsuit
against
exxon
and
suncorp.
That's
in
fact
a
picture
from
the
new
york
times
from
2018..
R
Well,
as
it
turns
out
that
was
a
pretty
good
strategy
that
other
people
are
using,
and
some
of
you
may
remember
last
week
major
decisions
handed
down
both
in
europe
and
in
here
that's
actually
putting
the
oil
companies
on
notice
that
they
are
going
to
have
to
start
making
significant
changes
in
terms
of
the
material
economy.
We've
started
to
map
the
flow
of
resources
through
our
community.
On
the
left,
you
see
all
the
different
ways
that
resources
enter
our
community
and
then
it
starts
to
go.
Where
does
that
go?
R
How
can
we
interrupt
that
passageway
to
the
dump
and
turn
it
back
into
something
we
can
use
in
one
form
or
another?
I'll
give
you
an
example
of
that.
Just
today
we
announced
that
we
got
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
from
the
carbon
neutral
cities
alliance
and
we're
in
a
finalist
in
the
bloomberg
philanthropies
area
to
start
working
on
creating
a
circular
economy
around
woody
biomass
that
comes
out
of
our
force,
both
urban
and
wildlands,
and
that
can
be
then
turned
into
biochar.
R
That
biochar
then
becomes
an
amendment
that
we
can
use
in
both
our
urban
forestry
and
soil
work
to
capture
more
carbon
and
starts
to
create
this
virtuous
carbon
cycle
in
terms
of
energy.
I
think
you've
heard
a
lot
this
evening.
You
can
see
how
I
think
influential
boulder
continues
to
be
on
excel
and
in
that
way,
on
the
rest
of
the
service
territory
around
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
In
fact,
through
our
partnership,
we
are
going
to
probably
be
the
first
people
to
start.
R
Looking
at
tariff-based
financing
a
mechanism
to
spread
the
cost
of
these
kinds
of
transitions
over
longer
periods
of
time,
making
that
much
more
affordable
for
a
lot
more
people
and
really
pushing
forward
on
this
electrification.
This
electrification
website
that
just
launched
was
again
a
consortium
of
groups
that
hadn't
normally
come
together,
but
which
are
now
moving
in
that
kind
of
systems-based
way
in
ecosystems.
I'm
really
excited
to
report.
We've
been
doing
some
very
interesting
work.
R
We
founded
a
new
entity,
the
city
and
urban
sustainability
directors
network
formed
a
new
entity
called
urban
drawdown
initiative
so
that
we
can
stimulate
this
work
not
only
in
boulder
but
elsewhere
around
the
country.
In
that
partnership,
we
have
just
created
a
new
tool
with
the
trust
for
public
land
that
will
actually
enable
communities
to
start
doing
carbon
management
within
their
urban
landscapes,
and
we
actually
were
the
ones
who
helped
launch
a
whole
national
initiative
around
scaling
up
urban
forestry
as
both
a
climate
action,
but
also
as
a
community
recovery
and
public
health
initiative.
R
Last
week
we
launched
a
six-month
forum
called
economy,
climate
and
community,
where
we're
bringing
in
some
of
the
world's
recognized
leaders
in
the
issues
of
economy,
to
talk
about
how
we
move
the
economy
from
be
from
being
a
cause
of
climate
change
to
being
a
part
of
its
solution
and
then
finally,
another
area
that
was
brought
forward
by
our
community
is
around
comprehensive
planning
about
land
use.
Now
land
use
is
one
of
the
favorite
contact
sports
in
our
community,
so
we're
not
going
to
take
on
all
of
land
use
within
the
climate
action
program.
R
R
This
is
going
to
be
an
extremely
important
time
for
us
to
look
at
all
the
ways
that
planning
and
land
use
shape
our
ability
to
both
reduce
emissions,
draw
down
carbon
and
prepare
our
community
for
all
kinds
of
different
climate
effects.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
very
important
process
and
I
expect
that
a
lot
of
our
community
will
be
deeply
engaged
with
that.
So,
with
all
of
this,
I
just
wanted
to
say
we're
we're
moving
on
things.
S
Screen
great,
thank
you,
brett
mayor
members
of
council
in
our
community.
Thank
you.
I'm
mia
algiershan
a
senior
energy
project
manager
in
the
climate
initiatives
department.
Can
you
go
back?
One
slide
thanks
brett,
so
brett
just
walked
us
through
the
importance
of
focusing
the
city's
actions
in
support
of
achieving
these
larger,
regional
and
national
climate
goals.
So
I
want
to
walk
us
through
how
these
insights
have
supported
the
proposed
framework
for
new
goals
and
targets
next
slide.
S
Sorry,
so
the
science
is
clear:
brett
just
did
a
really
good
job
of
explaining
that
the
amount
of
carbon
that
we
can
emit
to
remain
under
1.5
degrees
celsius
of
warming,
which
is
our
carbon
budget,
is
limited.
We
must
remain
under
that
1.5
degrees
to
avoid
the
catastrophic
levels
of
warming
and,
as
this
graphic
shows,
we
are
already
at
1.1
degrees.
S
At
our
current
rate
of
emissions,
we
will
exhaust
our
carbon
budget
in
about
10
years.
So
what
does
this
mean
for
setting
targets?
It
means
that
we,
we
must
move
quickly
so
for
even
an
even
50
chance
of
staying
1.5
degrees
below
the
global
emissions
need
to
be
cut
by
almost
half
by
2030
to
reach
net
zero
by
2050.
S
for
a
likely
66
chance
of
staying
within
this
carbon
budget.
The
global
community
must
get
to
net
zero
about
10
years
earlier
by
2035
or
2040,
and
it's
really
important
to
note
the
equity
related
considerations
here,
so
this
isn't
represented
equally
across
the
globe.
The
higher
emitters
must
move
much
more
quickly
and
also
equitably
take
responsibility
for
their
part,
so,
based
on
this,
the
wealthier
higher
emitting
regions
should
really
push
for
more
aggressive
net.
S
Zero
dates
next
slide,
as
I
just
explained,
because
we're
not
equally
responsible
for
climate
change,
the
responsibility
should
be
distributed
relative
to
those
who
are
responsible
for
causing
it.
The
wealthiest
10
of
the
world's
population
are
responsible
for
over
50
percent
of
the
current
emissions,
whereas
the
poorest
50
are
only
responsible
for
10
of
emissions.
S
S
Given
boulder's
responsibility
and
capacity
to
act,
we're
proposing
to
get
to
net
zero
emissions
by
2035,
which
aligns
with
that
likely
66
chance
that
I
spoke
of
of
limiting
warning
under
1.5
degrees.
These
are
new.
The
the
new
proposed
targets
that
we
are
presenting
tonight
are
shown
on
the
right
previous
targets.
Under
our
2016
climate
commitment
show
emissions
reductions,
targets
on
the
left
for
2020,
2030
and
2050..
S
The
new
proposed
targets
are
based
on
today's
science,
so
net
zero
emissions
is
balancing
any
carbon
that
we
emit
into
the
atmosphere
by
removing
an
equivalent
amount
from
the
atmosphere
and
carbon
positive
means
that
an
activity
goes
beyond
achieving
those
net.
Zero
carbon
emissions
to
create
an
environmental
benefit
by
removing
additional
carbon
from
the
atmosphere
and
all
of
the
science-based
pathways
to
stay
below
1.5
degrees
require
some
form
of
carbon
dioxide
removal.
Despite
aggressive
emissions
reductions,
so
using
carbon
sequestration
to
offset
our
carbon
emissions
will
be
fundamental
in
reaching
net
zero
emissions
by
2035.
S
So,
as
our
learning
has
evolved,
we
have
new
insights
and
we're
proposing
changing
how
we
measure
success.
One
of
the
key
insights
that
we've
come
to
when
we've
presented
in
this
memo
and
tonight
is
that
cities
can't
do
this
alone
and
the
success
of
a
few
cities
alone
isn't
enough.
S
Another
big
insight,
really
that
we've
been
having
in
our
forming
around
tonight
is
that
it's
really
not
just
about
mitigating
our
emissions,
and
we
have
been
talking
about
this
for
a
number
of
years,
but
adaptation
is
a
core
pillar
integrated
with
the
equity
design
principles,
and
these
are
really
the
core
pillars.
Now
of
this
evolution
and
climate
action
work
and,
lastly,
we're
proposing
addressing
gaps
in
previous
carbon
accounting
by
targeting
systems
behind
both
production
and
consumption
based
emissions.
S
The
city
will
make
more
headway
towards
systemic
change
that
incorporates
not
just
our
energy
transportation
and
waste
systems,
but
also
how
the
community
spends
its
money
and
the
consumption
chains.
The
community
can
influence
next
slide.
So
now
I
will
discuss
some
of
the
proposed
objectives
and
targets
under
the
focus
areas
that
we've
been
mainly
working
on.
I
will
walk
through
regenerative
regenerative
ecosystems,
energy
systems
and
circular
materials
economy
and,
as
brett
spoke
of
the
integration
of
land
use
and
financial
systems
into
our
climate
action
plan
is
still
in
its
early
stages
and
under
development.
S
So
they're
not
presented
here
tonight,
but
you'll
definitely
be
hearing
more
about
this
area
as
the
year
year
progresses
and
especially
as
we
move
towards
our
comprehensive
plan
update-
and
I
also
just
want
to
note
there's
a
lot
of
detail
here
and
attachment
d
on
page
50
of
your
packet
has
a
lot
of
that
detail
or
most
of
that
detail
on
these
focus
area,
objectives,
targets
and
progress
measures,
and
I'm
definitely
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
them,
but
I
will
provide
some
highlights
so
next
slide
so
based
on
this
new
framework.
S
These
are
the
objectives
under
the
ecosystems
focus
area.
They
really
span
from
increasing
carbon
sequestration
to
carbon-enhanced
ecosystem
services,
while
some
of
these
objectives
are
integrated
into
our
work.
This
new
framework
moves
the
resilience
and
equity
design
aspects
of
the
ecosystem,
work
to
a
much
greater
focus,
for
example,
designing
actions
to
maximize
equitable
ecosystem
benefits
as
a
core
objective.
S
We
know,
we've
lost
a
substantial
amount
of
that
because
of
emerald
ash
borer
and
many
of
the
extreme
weather
events
like
early
and
late
snowstorms
that
we
have
we're
now,
probably
around
12
or
13
percent.
So,
starting
next
year,
we'll
be
launching
a
major
community
climate
campaign
around
regrowing,
our
urban
canopy,
with
the
initial
goal
being
20
and
hopefully
going
beyond
that.
S
Through
these
actions,
particularly
focusing
on
planting
in
high
risk
and
vulnerable
populations,
we
hope
to
reduce
both
average
temperatures,
but
particularly
reduce
summer
extremes
by
three
to
five
degrees
and
in
this
and
all
the
focus
areas
it's
actually.
I
just
wanted
to
really
note
the
intersectionality
of
these
objectives
so,
for
example,
tree
planting
programs,
not
only
reduce
energy
needs
for
cooling,
but
also
have
proven
to
improve
mental
health
and
community
trust
next
slide.
So
on
to
energy
systems,
the
objectives
really
they've
remained
consistent
in
many
ways.
S
So
today
more
than
10
of
colorado,
colorado
residents
spend
10
of
their
income
on
energy
bills,
and
our
aim
is
that
by
2035,
that
number
is
4
or
less
some
of
the
work
we're
doing
today
around
providing
free
or
lower
cost
solar
garden
subscriptions
to
residents
with
low
incomes
are
moving
towards
achieving
this
target.
Additionally,
equity
in
the
energy
space
is
one
of
the
goals
of
the
excel
partnership
that
you
heard
about
tonight,
so
we
will
see
more
action
in
this
area
as
that
work,
unfolds
next
slide
and
the
circular
materials
economy.
S
This
objective,
the
direct
the
objectives
in
this
area,
really
reflect
an
evolution
from
our
traditional
zero-waste
goals
to
a
framework
for
circular
materials
economy,
as
we've
gained
a
deeper
understanding
of
the
impacts
of
consumption
and
material
manufacturing
and
disposal.
S
So,
while
the
first
steps
for
establishing
a
zero-waste
community
focuses
on
what
we
do
with
material
after
it
has
been
consumed
and
waste
has
been
created,
a
true
zero
waste
economy
must
transition
from
what
it
is
today,
which
is
linear
to
circular
where
waste
and
pollution
are
designed
out.
Communities
keep
products
and
materials
in
use
as
long
as
possible
and
extract
the
maximum
value
from
them
and
natural
systems
are
regenerated.
S
The
objectives
here
reflect
this
new
paradigm
by
focusing
on
circular
economy
and
buildings
and
repair
and
reuse
of
goods
on
top
of
our
existing
waste
diversion
efforts,
there's
also
a
wonderful
opening
here
for
entrepreneurship
and
innovation
and
so
bringing
sorry
next
slide.
Bringing
this
one
into
an
example,
one
of
these
new
objectives
is
supporting
a
circular
material
in
supporting
the
circular
materials
economy
is
making
repair,
reuse
and
remanufacturing
easier
and
more
accessible.
S
So
this
will
be
tracked
through
community
and
these
entrepreneurial
partnerships
sharing
platforms
such
as
what
exists
today
at
the
resource
tool,
library,
and
supporting
efforts
to
ensure
that
materials
and
products
are
designed
to
last
with
the
ability
to
recycle,
reuse,
repair
or
remanufacture
at
the
end
of
product
life.
A
lot
of
ours
there
next
slide
so
bringing
it
into
the
milestones
that
we're
proposing
in
our
packet
and
here
tonight
we
are
proposing
to
return
to
you
later
this
summer
with
a
resolution
that
will
adopt
these
new
climate
goals
in
the
fall.
S
We'll
be
sharing
progress
of
our
work
over
the
past
few
years,
as
well
as
looking
forward
at
the
evolution
of
these
strategies,
and
in
december,
we
would
return
to
council
to
review
the
funding
strategies
that
would
be
needed
to
support
this
work
and
onto
communications
and
engagement.
The
boulder
community
is
an
essential
partner
in
achieving
the
city's
climate
goals,
and
the
city
anticipates
offering
several
engagement
and
communication
opportunities
to
make
sure
that
the
community's
voice
is
reflected
in
these
efforts
and
there's
a
shared
understanding
of
this
new
approach
to
climate
action.
S
Communications
and
engagement
events
will
track
these
milestones,
but
it
will
be
ongoing
and
flexible
really
reflecting
the
need
for
continuous
refinement
of
the
city's
climate
action
priorities
and
strategies.
Some
engagement
will
be
more
targeted
and
there
will
there
will
be
a
variety
of
tactics
to
ensure
the
engagement
is
inclusive
and
accessible.
S
And
my
next
slide
is
about
our
environmental
advisory
board,
so
we
had
a
chance
to
have
a
to
present
this
information
and
have
a
great
discussion
with
our
environmental
advisory
board
last
week,
and
it
was
past
the
deadline
for
this
packet.
So
we
wanted
to
share
it
with
you
here
tonight
on
this
slide
are
the
themes
we
heard
and
discussed
with
the
board,
and
I
won't
go
through
reading
all
of
them,
but
I
do
want
to
highlight
a
few
one.
In
particular,
the
systems
focused
versus
individual
action.
S
You
know
making
sure
that
we're
not
just
focusing
focusing
on
systems
and
disempowering
the
importance
of
individual
action,
and
we've
really
tried
to
highlight
that
balance
here
tonight.
It's
not
an
either
and
or
conversation.
It's
really
a
need
for
both
another
one
to
highlight
is
the
alignment
of
local
policy
with
the
focus
on
systems
change
and
how
we
prepare
for
climate
change,
and
we
brought
this
up
with.
S
Based
on
this
new
framework,
and
then
another
key
theme
is
the-
which
is
a
big
focus
of
this
meeting-
is
the
importance
of
carbon
drawdown
and
ways
in
which
the
city
can
expand.
These
efforts-
and
there
was
some
exciting
conversation
around
partnerships
with
the
university
and
federal
labs
to
stimulate
innovation,
around
carbon
capture
and
utilization,
and
this
is
another
area-
that's
really
growing
in
our
work
and
we're
very
excited
to
continue
this
conversation
over
the
year
with
our
board,
as
these
strategies
evolve
next
slide
and
that
wraps
up
the
end
of
our
presentation.
S
B
All
right
first,
does
anybody
have
any
specific
questions
based
on
the
presentation,
zebra,
aaron
and
juni,
and
sam
and
miraby.
I
Okay,
so
well,
let
me
start
by
saying
thank
you
for
an
extraordinary
presentation
and
analysis
of
the
problems
that
confront
us,
and
you
know
the
what
you've
all
put
together
the
way
you've
been
thinking
about.
It
is
truly
impressive.
I
haven't
seen
anything
quite
like
this
as
I've
read
other
things
around
the
internet
in
the
world.
So
really
I'm
impressed
and
thank
you
so
much
for
what
you're
bringing
here
to
the
city
so
can
actually
gail.
I
I
There
we
go
the
next
one
things,
so
the
the
last
bullet
point
here
is
about
materials
and
products
are
designed
to
last
with
the
ability
to
recycle,
reuse,
repair
or
remanufacture
at
the
end
of
product
life
by
2030,
and
it
was
it's
a
little
unclear
to
me
to
the
extent
to
which
we
have
control
over
that
right.
Like
I
get
about
the
use
of
of
sharing
platforms
and
entrepreneurial
partnerships
to
promote
repair
and
reuse.
S
Yeah
that
that's
a
great
question
I
can.
I
can
start
to
answer
it
and
if
any
of
my
colleagues
want
to
chime
in
you
know
to
me,
I
guess
what
I
would
say
in
relation
to
that
is
you're
right
as
a
city
ourselves.
S
We
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
control,
but
I
would
say
in
our
regional
collaborations
and
some
of
the
work
that
we
do
through
our
partnerships
and
things
at
the
state
level
that
there
might
be
some
other
levers
that
we
can
pull
and
it
might
be
through
policy
and
through
incentives
and
through
regulation
that
we
could
collaborate
across
the
region
with.
But
when
you
start
to
look
globally,
it
feels
a
bit
overwhelming
on
how
we
would
actually
impact
things
that
are
coming
from.
S
You
know
china
or
india
or
other
parts
of
the
world
where
a
lot
of
our
our
goods
are
manufactured.
So
I
don't
think
it's
an
easy
one
to
tackle.
I
think
it's
one
that
we
see
as
as
necessary
to
change
the
systems
here.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
lot
of
clear
pathways
in
our
mind,
but
I
know
jamie
harkins
is
on
the
line.
If
she
has
anything
to
add
or
any
of
my
other
colleagues,
I
will
pass
it
along.
T
T
I
will
say
of
those
levers
that
brett
outlined
the
policy
here,
I
think,
will
be
the
one
that
will
take
target
first,
at
least
for
our
city
lever,
to
pull,
and
we
work
closely
with
state
partners
like
recycle
colorado
and
just
right
here
in
town
eco
cycle,
to
try
and
influence
some
state
bills
that
are
being
developed
for
future
legislative
sessions
around
the
right
to
repair
and
end
market
development.
So
we're
really,
I
think,
for
this
one
in
the
near
term.
T
It
will
be
on
that
policy
front
as
we
explore
more
ways
to
do
this
in
the
future.
So
that's
what
I
would
add
thanks.
I
M
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
a
great
presentation
and
I
really
enjoy
brett's
section
very
much
and
my
question
is
actually.
L
L
Is
there
a
requirement
as
of
right
now
that
new
constructions
are
required
to
use
heat
pump
technology
or
is
something
that
we're
considering?
I
just
wanted
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Q
Great,
thank
you
juni
and
that's
just
that's
a
great
question.
I
think
we've
been
very
cautious
in
our
our
code
development
to
not
dictate
the
technology
solution,
but
rather
to
set
performance-based
standards
and
leave
it
to
our
very
insightful
and
thoughtful
architectural
and
design
community
to
really
design
those
solutions.
H
Great
thank
you
mark
and
I
want
to
say
thanks
very
much
to
jonathan
brett,
yale
and
carolyn.
I
mean
this
is
a
really
comprehensive
framing
of
a
very
complicated,
far-reaching
problem.
So
it
was
a
great
setup
for
us
to
talk
about.
There
are
too
many
elements
to
address
tonight,
but
it's
a
great
way
for
us
to
think
about
it.
I
want
to
come
down
to
an
accounting
question.
First,
I
believe
most
of
our
work
has
been
done
relative
to
a
2005
baseline,
so
we've
looked
at
emissions.
It's
been
percentage
below
2005..
H
Q
And
yeah,
I
believe
sam
is
referring
to
the
the
carbon
and
body
carbon
reduction
goals
relative
to
the
baseline.
H
I'll
just
start
with
the
baseline
year,
so,
for
instance,
on
page
seven
of
the
packet
we've
got
reduced
emissions
70
by
2030
against
the
2018
baseline,
and
so
the
first
question
is:
are
we
going
to
shift
our
baseline
from
2005
emissions
to
2018
emissions.
S
Great
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
lauren
tremblay
who's
on
the
call
and
she's
our
colleague
who's,
the
architect.
Behind
a
lot
of
this
work.
C
Hey,
oh
yeah,
so
my
name
is
lauren
tremblay,
I'm
a
sustainability
analyst
of
the
climate
initiatives
department
and
the
reason
for
the
shift
to
the
2018
baseline
was
working
under
ickley
guidance.
So
really,
the
recommendation
is
that
cities
shift
away
from
a
2005
baseline
to
align
closer
to
a
2018
baseline.
They
were
really
asking
for
really
between
a
2016
and
2019.
C
Ideally,
baseline
was
2018
being
the
ideal,
and
that
was
really
just
because
a
lot
of
cities
are
starting
to
get
into
this
work.
Now,
where
they're,
starting
to
analyze
their
annual
inventory
and
emissions,
it
was
an
opportunity
for
those
cities
to
be
able
to
kind
of
look
at
their
current
conditions
and
start
from
there,
and
the
recommendation
is
also
just
due
to
the
fact
that
the
ipcc
report
came
out
in
2018
and
a
lot
of
the
forward-looking
that
the
report
was
doing
was
really
looking
at
like
based
on
the
current
status
now
in
2018.
C
Where
will
her
carbon
budget
be
into
the
future?
So
it
was
really
trying
to
reset
the
baseline
to
align
with
that
2018
timeline.
So
that's
really
where
the
race
to
zero
campaign
is
pushing
cities
to
reset
their
baseline
too.
So
we're
doing
that
to
really
align
with
all
the
global
communities
moving
towards.
Under
that
guidance.
H
Got
it
and
my
only
concern
really
about
that
is
not
shifting
the
baseline
per
se,
but
how
do?
How
does
our
community
adapt
to
we've
been
telling
them
we've
done
21,
you
know
carbon
reduction
and
now
we'll
be
at.
You
know
a
few
percent
at
best
when
we
do
2018,
so
it
might
be
something
to
think
about.
You
know
how
we're
going
to
bring
the
community
along
with
that
change
because
we
might
get
it,
but
others
might
not.
H
The
second
thing
I
wanted
to
ask
about
is
carolyn
what
you
were
starting
to
talk
about,
which
is
embedded
emissions.
So
what
does
it
take
to
get
our
iphones
and
our
cell
phones?
You
know:
what's
the
emissions
associated
with
transporting
them?
What's
the
emissions
associated
with
cement?
Oh
sorry,
concrete
and
basement
foundations,
and
so
on.
H
So
it's
a
really
important
question,
but
one
of
the
things
that
the
memo
said
was
doing
that
is
going
to
make
it
look
like
and
truly
is
doubling
the
emissions
that
are
coming
from
boulder,
and
so,
if
we're
making
both
of
these
shifts
at
once,
how
are
we
going
to
square
it
with
previous
progress?
How
we're
going
to
square
it?
Looking
ahead,
I
think
to
me
the
challenge
becomes
all
of
a
sudden.
We
reset
the
zero
on
2018,
and
now
we've
got
double
our
emissions.
C
Yeah
I'm
going
to,
if
you
don't
mind
me
timing
and
again,
that's
a
really
great
point.
It's
one
we're
really
thinking
about
as
we
move
into
looking
at
incorporating
consumption-based
emissions
into
our
inventory
into
the
future.
I'll
also
add
that
we're
looking
to
include
sequestration
of
our
urban
forests
and
trees
into
our
inventory
process
as
well.
So
there's
a
lot
new
stuff,
that's
being
integrated,
and
I
completely
agree
with
you
that
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
learning.
C
That
goes
along
with
that,
but
we're
going
to
be
working
through
the
actual
inventory
process
to
segment
out
that
information,
so
that
it's
very
comparable
to
prior
years,
so
we'll
be
doing
kind
of
an
old
break
out
the
consumption-based
emissions,
as
kind
of
like,
apart
from
our
kind
of
historically
how
we've
done
our
emissions
accounting
and
then
you
can
kind
of
see
a
comparison
kind
of
trending
over
the
years.
So
you
can
understand
what
that
trend
is
being.
C
They
can
also
look
at
what
the
consumption-based
emissions
are
now
that
we're
starting
to
accumulate
those
and
incorporate
them
into
our
accounting
mechanisms.
So
it's
a
really
great
point
and
we'll
try
to
do
our
best
to
try
and
segment
the
data
in
a
way
that's
really
comparable
year
over
year,
just
because
we
have
such
a
wonderful
history
of
doing
our
inventories
that
we
don't
want
to
lose
that
value
of
being
able
to
track
that
trend
over
time.
So
that's
certainly
a
great
point.
H
That's
an
excellent
answer
too.
Thank
you
for
that,
and
it
also
applies,
of
course,
to
accounting
the
transportation
emissions
from
in
commuters,
which
is
something
we've
heard
about
for
a
long
time,
but
having
the
old
style
tracking,
the
old
numbers,
the
previous
numbers
and
then
the
new
numbers
broken
out.
You
know
in
additional
categories
I
think
will
be
very
helpful
on
that.
So
that's
great!
I
have
one
other
question
and
brad.
It
goes
to
your
example.
You
talked
about
divestment
and
talked
about.
You
know
some
of
the
financial
levers
that
individuals
have.
H
I
would
point
out
and
then
ask
we
as
an
institution,
have
those
levers
as
well
and
so
to
what
extent
does
this
kind
of
rethinking
and
reframing
to
systems
change?
How
are
we
going
to
incorporate
that
with
our
financial
processes?
So
not
only
where
do
we
keep
our
money
but
kind
of
advocacy
for
public
banking
and
other
things
like
that,
so
writ
large?
How
is
the
city
as
an
institution
going
to
look
at
some
of
those
actions
that
we
need
to
take
that
aren't
just
direct
about
carbon
emissions,
but
are
more
about
the
systemic
change.
R
R
So
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
power
in
terms
of
both
where
we
invest,
who
we
do
financial
business
with
and
what
we
buy
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
launched
the
forum
on
economy,
climate
and
community,
because
we
need
to
normalize
this
as
being
a
legitimate,
a
part
of
our
strategies,
and
I
think
that
a
lot
of
places
might
not
have
seen
that
as
being
something
that
they
should
or
could
do.
And
so
I
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
leap
into
this,
I
know.
R
Certainly
our
financial
controllers-
don't
want
us
to
leave
it
there
yet,
but
for
a
good
reason.
We
want
to
know
how
this
works,
and
we
also
want
to
see
that
others
are
coming
along
with
us.
So
I
think
we're
starting
to
try
to
have
start
that
conversation,
not
only
here,
but
also
in
a
lot
of
other
places.
U
Thanks
mark,
thank
you
steph
thanks
for
a
great
presentation,
I
guess
my
biggest
takeaway
is
how
urgent
this
issue
is
something
I
personally
feel
I've
been
aware
of,
but
I
don't
know
you
know
our
whole
community
is
so
appreciate
you
bringing
it
up.
I
guess
my
question
is
this:
I
understand
that
you
know
what
I'm
about
to
talk
about
is
part
of
our
charter.
So
it's
not
like
you
can
go.
U
Do
anything
about
this,
your
bells,
but
it's
something
I
think
you
can
help
guide
from
my
experience
on
council,
and
so
my
question
is
that
seeing
right
now,
as
our
open
space
is
partially
used
for
in
our
water,
precious
water
rights
are
used
for
growing
hay
for
raising
cattle,
which,
from
my
research
and
understanding,
is.
U
Is
there?
I
guess
desire
within
staff
to
help
guide
council
in
the
community
and
start
using
our
open
space
in
different
ways
where
we're
not
killing
keystone
species,
and
we
could
start
bringing
in
animals
like
the
buffalo
who
work
with
keystone
species
or
regarding
the
carbon
sequestration
from
again
information.
I've
had
is
that
it
works
with
keystone
species
as
well
as
things
like
hemp
farming
that
take
far
less
water
really
helps
with
carbon
sequestration.
U
R
R
Following
the
prairie
dog
ordinances
that
were
implemented
this
year,
we
are
supporting
a
community
collaboration
that
lindsey
crank
and
others
are
a
part
of
to
look
at
how
we
manage
lands
in
the
context
of
agriculture
with
prairie
dogs
and
other
species,
to
see
how
we
can
optimize
for
that
now.
We've
also
started
a
relationship
with
one
of
the
cu
ecosystems
labs,
to
start
to
look
at
landscape
scale
management.
R
Just
to
look
at
how
we
use
our
water
to
be
able
to
sustain
landscapes
that
can
hold
more
water,
because
the
capacity
of
our
landscapes
to
hold
and
transpire
water
is
going
to
be
critical
to
cooling
us.
So
I
think
that
we're
just
starting
to
move
that
a
lot
of
that
work
forward.
I
think
a
lot
more
is
going
to
come
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
O
Thanks
mark
and
thanks
for
that
question
mirabai,
I
appreciated
it
first,
I
want
to
say
it
is
really
an
honor
to
live
in
this
city
that
is
working
so
hard
on
this
issue
and
to
be
on
this
council.
That's
taking
part
in
this
important
work,
so
I
want
to
thank
staff
and
community
members
and
also
a
shout
out
to
council
colleagues.
O
Some
of
you
will
be
rounding
off
of
council
in
a
few
months
and
you've
been
so
instrumental
in
this
work,
and
I
just
want
to
say
you
are
all
very
appreciated.
So
then
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
there
may
be
a
little
bit
in
the
weeds.
So
I'm
sorry
hope.
That's!
Okay
and
again,
thank
you
all
for
bearing
with
me
that
my
camera
is
not
on
so
at
the
state
legislature
today
and,
I
think,
maybe
over
to
the
governor's
desk.
O
P
So
I
I
appreciate
so
much
that
you're
tracking
the
state
legislature
today
was
a
pretty
significant
day,
not
just
in
terms
of
the
plastics
bill,
but
a
number
of
other
bills
on
the
energy
side.
So
just
for
those
of
you
that
are
watching
that,
maybe
don't
track
this
as
closely
house
bill.
P
1162
phases
out,
single-use
plastic
bags,
polystyrene
cups
and
containers
and
reverses,
as
you
said,
a
law
that
prohibits
municipalities
from
taking
action
around
plastic
pollution,
and
I
think
it's
been
regarded
as
one
of
the
most
comprehensive
plastic
pollution
reduction
bills
passed
in
the
country
and
in
fact,
marks
the
first
time
an
interior
state
has
taken
action
to
phase
out
plastics
pollution.
So
I
just
wanted
to
reference
the
significance
of
that.
P
So
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time
to
think
about
evaluating
the
best
options
for
boulder
to
to
further
our
plastic
pollution
in
our
community
and
the
impacts
of
plastics
globally.
I
wanted
to
just
mention
that
in
flag
for
our
community
and
council,
the
really
incredible
metabolic
report
that
came
out
just
two
years
ago
that
really
starts
to
look
at
that
circularity
of
our
materials
flow
and
just
to
kind
of
key
in
on
that
systems,
level.
P
Thinking,
rather
than
just
focusing
on
providing
recycling
options
for
single-use
plastics,
incidentally,
generally
roughly
10
percent,
I
think
or
less
a
plastic
waste
we
generate,
I
would
say-
societally
not
just
here
not
in
boulder
or
above
that
that
we
generate
actually
gets
recycled
properly.
So
it
allows
us
to
think
about
not
just
reducing
plastic
waste
pollution
by
cleaning
up
our
supply
chain,
focusing
on
the
role
of
single-use
plastics
and
product
packaging
and
ultimately
incentivizing
innovative
packaging
solutions.
P
And
so
I
think
what
we
would
start
to
look
at
is
options
for
local
ordinance
to
tackle
other
types
of
plastics,
similar
to
what
other
cities
have
done
around
styrofoam
or
utensils,
and
straws
plastic
lined
coffee
cups.
So
I
think
we
have
some
really
interesting
opportunities
there
and
also
look
at
some
extender
extended
producer
responsibility
rules
that
we
might
be
able
to
look
at
kind
of
going
back
to
the
comment
that
aaron
made
earlier,
so
how
we
can
influence,
though,
that
kind
of
systems
level
approach
through
this
particular
bill.
O
I
love
that
answer.
Thank
you
and
it
sounds
like
we
can't
really
do
anything
until
2024
in
terms
of
preemption
lifted.
Is
that
true?
I
think.
P
That's
right,
but
we
between
now
and
then
our
staff
is
really
going
to
be
identifying
and
evaluating
the
best
options
for
boulder
and-
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
a
really
critical
piece
of
what
we've
been
looking
at
for
a
while.
So
we
can
bring
back
some
ideas
as
we
move
forward
on
reporting
out
on
our
zero
waste
work.
O
Awesome.
Thank
you.
That's
exciting,
okay.
Next
question:
if
I
understood
the
presentation
correctly,
it
sounds
like
some
of
our
previous
efforts
were
not
exactly
widely
replicated
around
the
nation
and
bob
yates
likes
to
say
we
aren't
a
leader
if
no
one
is
following.
So
given
the
urgency
here,
I'm
assuming
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
decisions
are
going
to
be
impactful
and
replicatable
replicable.
O
So
looking
first
at
building
codes,
I'm
worried
are
we
setting
standards
that
they
will
be
affordable
and
that
we
will
have
builder
and
owner
buy-in,
because
I
assume
we
don't
want
to
make
requirements
so
onerous
that
other
cities
won't
follow
or
that
we
drive.
You
know:
middle
income,
households
out
of
the
city.
So
that's
my
first
question
on
that
front.
Q
Sure
you
know
it's
something
rachel
we
we
think
very
carefully
about
whenever
we
introduce
a
new
building
code
and
we
do
and
and
will
as
we
look
to
the
next
code,
update,
try
and
do
an
extensive
analysis
of
the
cost
implications
of
any
changes.
I
will
say
we
are
very
much
aligning
our
building
code
updates
with
what's
happening
nationally
and
internationally.
Q
So
so
we're
really
seeing
a
trend
kind
of
centering
around
these
performance-based
codes,
so
they
are
being
replicated
we
don't
actually,
while
we
have
the
most
aggressive
in
the
country
for
a
long
time.
I
think
we're
really
lining
up
with
with
many
others
and
trying
to
build
those
lessons
learned.
So
we're
definitely
going
to
be
very
cognizant.
Q
I
I
do
know
that
when
we
look
to
like
our
affordable
housing,
our
multi-family
units,
some
of
our
up-and-coming
commercial
spaces,
they're,
really
largely
exceeding
the
requirements
in
our
code,
they're
moving
towards
all
electric
really
that
the
cost
of
technologies
are
coming
down
and
I
think
that's
really
telling
of
where
we're
going
to
be
heading,
and
so
we
will
definitely
be
paying
very
close
attention
to.
That
is,
and
we
will
be
talking
to
you
about
that
as
we
start
to
move
into
our
next
code
update,
which
is
scheduled
for
2023.
O
Okay
and
then
sort
of
along
the
same
lines
and
and
following
up
maybe
a
bit
on
on
aaron's
question
about
the
the
circular
economy.
So-
and
I
and
I
appreciate
that
that
the
affordable
housing
units
and
and
the
more
just
industrial
or
other
side-
and
maybe
the
million
plus
dollar
homes
are
exceeding
or
and
meeting
the
requirements.
O
But
I
am
worried
about
the
you
know,
sort
of
everybody
in
between
that,
and
so,
if
repair
costs
go
up
because
we
require
that
people
buy
products
that
are,
you
know,
built
to
last
and
become
more
expensive.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
looking
at
how
we
expect
that
that
sort
of
average
homeowners
who
maybe
are
are
stretched
to
just
make
mortgage
payments
in
this
expensive
town
will
be
able
to
keep
up
so
that
I
guess
that's.
My
second
question
is:
how
are
we
ensuring
that
are
looking
at
that.
Q
Yeah-
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
highlight
rachel
is
for
a
decision
we
made
in
our
last
code
cycle
was
really
not
to
ratchet
down
the
code
requirements
on
repair
renovation.
You
know
smaller
renovations
to
really
encourage
the
retention
of
existing
homes,
and
so
I
think
we
would
continue
to
see
some
trends
where
you
know
if
we
see
that
having
a
negative
impact
on
our
homeowners
as
they
have
to
make
decisions
about
their
existing
homes.
I
think
that's
the
strategy.
Q
We
would
continue
to
employ
it's
something
we're
trying
to
be
very
cognizant
of,
as
we
really
leverage
our
equity
tools
to
really
understand
what
the
impact
is.
Some
of
the
decisions
we're
making
on
not
not
just
like
you
said
on
on
the
affordable
housing,
but
on
our
market
rate
homes
as
well.
O
Awesome,
that's
helpful
thanks
and
then
I
think
my
last
question.
When
we
look
at
the.
I
think
you
called
it
consumption
piece,
so
not
the
energy
system,
not
the
buildings
and-
and
I
get
that
historically,
you
know
we
focus
sort
of
on
building
codes.
O
In
the
builder
it
was
an
obvious
place
that
cities
had
control,
and
so
we
looked
at
things
like
electrification
of
buildings
and
appliances
and
things
like
that,
but
beyond
looking
at
land
use
as
we
consider
the
climate
crisis,
and
we
know
that
there
are
so
many
other
factors
that
are
implicated
like
food
waste
and
meat
and
dairy
consumption
and
gas,
lawnmowers
and
xeriscaping
and
water
issues
and
our
travel
habits
and
owning
second
homes
and
infected
trees
that
are
left
to
spread
disease.
And
things
like
that.
O
O
P
I'll
take
a
swing
at
that
first
and
then
that'll
buy
a
little
bit
of
time
for
some
of
my
colleagues.
If
they
want
to
give
a
more
filled
out
answer,
I
think,
as
we
start
to
work
our
way
into
thinking
about
consumption-based
inventories
and
the
approach
of
focusing
on
impacts
that
are
primarily
in
production.
I
think
it
might
point
to
a
need,
for
you
know:
cleaner
production
and
extending
the
life
of
items
in
some
cases
reduction
of
demand.
I
don't.
P
I
don't
think
that
we
really
thought
far
enough
along
about
the
policies
that
would
get
us
there
and
the
role
that
the
city
might
be
thinking
about.
So
we
might
be
looking
at
targeting
carbon
intensive
consumption
categories,
targeting
life
cycle
phases,
around
production
with
highest
emissions,
supporting
shifts
in
consumption
to
activities
with
lower
emissions,
and
the
city's
role
in
that
could
be
promoting
it
could
be
funding
could
be
education
and
outreach,
developing
programs
and
services
and
demonstrating,
I
think,
with
our
own
practices.
P
What
I
will
say
rachel
to
that
is
that
this
is
an
emerging
body
of
work
that
actually
is
quite
exciting,
and
you
heard
lauren
trembley
talk
a
bit
earlier
about
how
this
isn't
something
that
boulder
is
facing
in
isolation.
P
We
are
partnering
up
with
a
number
of
communities
through
italy
through
the
urban
sustainability
directors
network
and
other
coalitions
to
think
about
how
do
we
actually
start
to
calculate
our
emissions
and
be
able
to
report
out
our
emissions
in
a
consumption
based
way?
What
does
that
really
mean
back
to
sam
your
question
earlier
about
how
we
articulate
those
impacts,
and
then
what
really
are
the
roles
for
the
city?
What
are
the
potential
programs
and
policies,
and
so
I
would
say
it's
yet
to
be
determined
on
the
policy
side.
K
Thank
you
mark
and
thank
you
staff.
This
was
probably
the
most
riveting
memo
that
I've
read,
at
least
in
this
term.
It
was
absolutely
fascinating
and
exciting
to
think
about
at
a
systems
level
how
things
need
to
change
in
the
whole
idea
of
theories
of
change
and
how
critical
that
is
to
be
able
to
solve
problems.
So
I
really
really
really
appreciated
the
memo.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
not
sure
that
I
have.
K
I
have
tons
of
comments
and
I've
been
sitting
here
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
turn
those
comments
into
questions.
So
I
think
what
I'll
do
is
I'll.
Just
wait
for
the
comments
part
rather
than
try
and
figure
out
how
to
turn
my
comments
into
questions.
So
are
we
ready
to
go
there
mark
or
no?
No.
K
B
One
just
just
as
a
clarification
for
me.
The
new
targets
that
you've
been
setting
are
are
inclusive
of
emissions
from
consumption
as
well.
C
Yeah,
so
we're
aiming
to
focus
our
targets
on
right
now.
Our
current
mechanism
for
accounting,
so
they'll
be
following
historic
trends
of
how
we've
done
our
accounting,
but
we
do
have
separate
targets
set
for
consumption-based
submissions
that
follow
again
the
science-based
recommendations
for
how
we
should
be
setting
targets
for
consumption-based
emissions.
So
I
believe,
that's
a
50
reduction
in
consumption-based
emissions
by
2030
and
an
80
reduction
by
2050,
I
believe
so
we'll
be
addressing
and
tracking
those,
but
just
in
a
little
bit
of
a
separate
way.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
originally
had
a
question
on
some
of
the
equity
considerations
and
adopting
new
policies,
but
I
I
think
rachel
got
to
those
so
my
last
question
is
we
heard
a
detailed
presentation
this
evening
from
alice
jackson
of
excel
in
reading
your
memo,
I
was
you
know,
struck
by
first,
it's
it's
thoughtfulness,
but
it
was
also
quite
frightening
and
it
had
a
very
strong
sense
of
urgency
to
it.
P
Us
I
I'm
not
seeing
anybody
jump
at
that,
one
mark,
it's
a
it's
a
great
question
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
deflect
the
the
question,
but
I
think
going
back
to
at
least
what
I
hear
you
asking
is:
does
their
proposal
in
their
electric
resource
plan
and
their
clean
energy
plan
sufficiently
meet
the
pace
and
scale
of
work
that
needs
to
take
place?
I'm
going
to
answer
it
this
way
and
say
that
energy
decarbony
is
our
energy
supply
remains
a
critical
factor
in
our
ability
to
address
the
climate
crisis.
P
That
is,
I
think,
that's
a
known
quantity,
not
just
here
locally,
but
but
globally
I
mean
that
is
really
something
that
I
think
every
community
is
really
focusing
on.
How
do
we
achieve
net
zero
emissions
in
the
time
frame?
That
science
tells
us
that
we
need
to
get
to?
We
know
that
it's
a
challenge
we
have
to
meet,
but
it's
a
challenge
to
which
we
have
answers,
and
I
think
we're
confident
that
it
could
be
done
in
a
way
that
getting
it
at
zero
is
technologically
and
economically
possible.
P
So
the
question
is,
I
think,
goes
back
to
something.
Sam
was
saying
in
his
remarks,
which
is
we
need
to
continue
to
push.
We
have
continued
to
play
that
role
as
a
community
with
our
utility
provider,
and
I
think
it
has
shown
that
moving
towards
things
like
massive
electrification,
shutting
down
fossil
based
units
moving
away
from
fossil
based
methane
gas
to
other
sources
of
energy,
those
are
critical
in
our
ability
to
meet
the
goals
that
we
have
not
only
laid
out
as
a
community,
but
that
are
required
to
to
address
the
climate
science.
P
So
I
I
would
say
that
it
is
absolutely
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
We
are
having
a
different
conversation
today
with
excel
than
we
were
just
two
years
ago,
and
I
often
think
back
a
decade
ago
about
where
we
were
in
terms
of
renewables
in
terms
of
emissions
within
the
electricity
sector
and
we've
come
a
long
way,
but
we
have
to
continue
to
push.
P
There
are
still
questions
with
respect
to
where
excel
is
going
questions
around
their
investment
in
in
natural
gas
questions
around
the
pace
in
which
they
are
decommissioning,
those
fossil-based
units,
the
impacts
to
the
communities
that
they
serve.
These
are
all
questions
that
we
want
to
dig
into,
not
just
with
our
community,
but
how
we
work
with
our
partners
through
cc4ca
and
through
our
coalitions
to
continue
to
apply
pressure
not
just
to
excel,
but
all
of
our
utility
providers.
P
I
think
it's
a
critically
critically
important
piece,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
on
that
is
that
alice
talked.
I
think
she
was
responding
to
mary's
question
about
how
excel's
work
is
really
reflected
in
the
systems
based
approach,
and
what
I
do
appreciate
in
analysis
remarks
is
recognition
of
the
comprehensive
nature
that
energy
plays
so
starting
to
look
at
things
much
more
comprehensively
in
terms
of
just
electricity
supply,
but
how
it
fits
in
with
decarbonizing
our
buildings,
how
it
fits
in
with
decarbonizing
our
mobility
systems.
P
So
taking
that
approach,
I
think
is,
is
important.
I
think
it's
again
a
really
critical
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
think
we,
as
one
community
and
our
partnership
communities,
are
going
to
continue
to
play
a
vital
role
in
in
making
sure
that
we
can
be
as
aggressive
as
we
possibly
can,
because
these
targets
are
not
just
ambitious.
They
are
necessary.
B
Jonathan,
thank
you
for
that
answer
and
keep
pushing.
I
think
we
can
now
turn
it
over
to
counsel
for
comments,
and
I
think
mary
has
first
dibs
on
those.
K
Okay,
thanks
mark
so
first
I
just
wanted
to
start
it
by
start
off
by
saying
that
what
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
struck
me
about
this
memo
was
the
focus
on
social,
economic
and
environmental,
and
it
struck
me
that
that's
how
our
comprehensive
plan
used
to
be
based
on
and
we
moved
away
from
that
into
the
sustainability
framework
and
perhaps
in
2025,
we
may
want
to
consider
going
back
to
the
three-legged
stool.
So
that's
a
comment.
K
With
respect
to
looking
at
it
was
page
14
where
you
illustrate
the
global
emissions
per
capita
and
how
the
poorest
communities
actually
have
the
lowest
emissions
rate
and
the
richest
communities
have
the
most
emissions.
So
my
comment
is
in
in
looking
at
how
to
develop
systems
that
work.
K
Look
to
the
people
who
have
the
lowest
emissions
for
solutions
instead
of
going
out
and
playing
saviors
to
the
poor
communities.
Look
at
the
communities
for
the
assets
that
they
bring
to
the
table
that
they
have
a
lot
to
offer
in
terms
of
solutions,
because
they
have
already
had
to
do
a
lot
with
very
little.
K
So
so
I
think
that's
that's
an
important,
perhaps
in
the
category
of
insights
that
you
presented
also
to
the
the
comment
that
the
environmental
advisory
board
made
about
not
disempowering
individual
action
made
me
think
about
how,
after
the
the
sugary
beverage
tax,
there
was
an
organization
that
went
out
and
showed
all
of
the
different
soft
drinks
and
then
right
next
to
them
how
much
sugar
was
in
them.
K
So
it
was
a
visual
representation
of
what
the
harm
that
those
drinks
could
do
in
terms
of
your
health,
and
so
similarly,
one
of
the
way
ways
of
empowering
people
to
individual
action
would
be
to
take
a
similar
display
and
show
say,
for
example,
a
compostable
cup
plate
and
fork.
K
And
what
is
the
embedded
petroleum
in
those?
So
you
know
we
consider
ourselves
being
virtuous
for
using
compostable
products,
but
they
have
embedded
petroleum.
So
you
know
what
what
is
what
is
the
embedded
petroleum
in
those
versus
carrying
around
a
cup
that
you
refill
or
a
bottle
that
you
refill
something
like
that
and
along
with
that,
to
look
at
what
a
purchase
of
a
toaster
going
and
buying
it
locally
versus
ordering
it
from
amazon?
K
You
know
what
is
the
the
the
petroleum
that
is
attached
to
something
based
on
how
you
purchase
it.
So,
just
just
thinking
about
how
to
raise
awareness
about
the
simple
things
that
we
do
every
day
have
consequences
and
the
impact
of
those
things
that
we
do
in
terms
of
the
partnerships
and
and
and
finding
out
how
to
change
our
systems
is
to
look
in.
K
The
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
very
interesting
in
your
memo
was
the
comment
about
choosing
to
expend
dollars
on
programs
or
efforts
that
yield
the
greatest
system
scale
mitigation
rather
than
optimal
within
city
boundaries,
and
to
that
made
me
think
about
well,
there
might
be
a
whole
bunch
of
policy
barriers
to
doing
things
like
that.
So,
for
example,
with
affordable
housing
funds,
we
can
only
spend
those
within
the
city
boundary,
but
what?
K
K
In
that
exam
specific
example,
revenue
sharing
and
then
one
of
the
thoughts
that
that
came
to
mind
as
I
was
reading,
the
memo
is,
I
I
saw
a
gap
with
respect
to
migration,
climate
migration
and
how
you
know
the
people
will
be
moving
inland
from
both
coasts
and
northward,
while
inland
from
because
of
sea
level
rise
and
northward
because
of
rising
temperatures
and
desertification.
K
K
And
and
then
just
kind
of
a
a
a
general
comment
about
how
I
found
like
I
said
before,
I
found
the
whole
systems,
analysis
and
and
theory
of
change,
just
really
fascinating
and
kind
of
a
broader
comment
about
what
other
of
these
intractable,
seemingly
intractable
problems.
K
Can
we
apply
this
sort
of
thinking
to
and
what
comes
to
mind
is
homelessness,
and
how
can
we
apply
the
systems
level
collaborative
theory
of
change
to
homelessness,
because,
yes,
you
can
it's
important
that
people
have
something
to
eat
every
day
and
to
bring
people
that
are
camping,
say,
for
example,
lunch,
but
that's
not
going
to
provide
any
kind
of
systems,
kind
solutions
so
to
apply
it
to
other
problems
and
and
perhaps
and
I'm
sure
that
staff
is
already
thinking
about
what
other
problems
this
kind
of
thinking
can
be
applied
to.
K
So
that's
all
the
comments
I
have
and
thank
you.
I
really
really
really
appreciated
this
memo
and
and
the
urgency
behind
it
and
all
the
work
that
you're
doing
so.
Thank
you.
B
K
H
Indeed,
thanks,
I'm
I'm
gonna
just
pop
down
the
list
of
questions
real
quick
as
the
start.
So
I
think
the
answer
is
pretty
much
yes
to
to
all
of
these
the
most
important
one
being
the
new
system
based
goals
and
targets,
because
I
think
it
is
time
for
a
reset.
I
think
we're
behind
where
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
this.
H
The
urgency
that's
in
the
memo
it
captures
what
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
as
far
as
our
goals
and
targets,
and
it
has
seemed
to
me
for
since
the
climate
mobilization
action
plan
kickoff
that
we
really
needed
to
address
that
concern,
and
so
yes
to
to
the
assistant-based
approach,
yes
to
bringing
it
back
to
us
in
august
to
formalize
those
through
a
resolution.
I
think
we
need
to
adopt
that,
and
you
know
start
to
bring
all
of
us
along
as
well
as
our
community.
H
Along
with
why
we're
making
the
change
what
the
change
implies,
how
consumption
is
a
really
important
factor
in
what's
going
on,
so
I
would
say
absolutely.
I
think
we
need
to
adopt
new
goals
and
targets,
progress
indicators
and
then
communicate
them
and
communicate
the
urgency.
That's
in
this
memo,
I
think
the
way
that
equity
is
embedded
into
the
thinking
about
how
to
design
the
programs.
We
have
the
conversation
with
carolyn
that
building
codes.
It
extends
to
everything
and
it's
not
just
class
it's
race
as
well.
H
So
I
think
having
that
at
the
core,
along
with
resilience
and,
of
course,
emissions,
but
emissions
has
been
kind
of
how
we've
approached
this
historically,
and
that's
only
gotten
us
so
far.
So
having
the
equity
design
principle
is
critical.
If
we
don't
have
it
we're
we're
only
going
to
make
superficial
progress
as
brett
said,
yeah
see
it
in
august
absolutely
the
framework
for
clarifying
the
roles
of
cities.
I
the
only
thing
I
fear
about
the
system
level.
H
Let
the
fact
that
we
don't
control
the
whole
financial
system,
stop
us
from
doing
what
we
can.
So
I
think
one
thing
when
we
do
this
system
kind
of
approach
and
system-based
thinking
is,
we
need
to
prioritize
first
and
foremost
what
we
have
direct
control
over.
So
I
think
we
want
to
be
careful
not
to
fall
into
a
trap
of
talking
about
all
the
external
influences
like
in
commuters,
saying
we
can't
do
anything
about
that.
H
Well,
we
can,
you
know
plenty
of
people
will
work
here
who
don't
live
here,
so
I
I
just
want
to
caution
that
while
we
take
this
systems
level
approach,
we
don't
then
shirk
some
direct
actions
which
might
be
hard
and
might
be
controversial
that
we
need
to
address
and
take.
So
that
would
be
the
only
question
about
that
and
then
specific
strategies
I
mean,
I
think
we
probably
within
you
guys
within
the
climate
initiative
department,
have
a
really
good
handle
on
all
the
detailed
strategies
on
carbon
sequestration,
energy
transition.
H
You
know
what
buildings
need
to
do
to
be
better.
I
would
say
that
we
need
to
bring
in
departments
which
aren't
going
to
love
being
brought
in,
like,
of
course,
the
financial
group,
and
they
have
very
good
reasons
for
being
conservative.
But
we
need
to
move
that
part
of
the
organization
forward.
Things
like
utilities
right,
not
just
obvious
things
like
water
conservation,
but
things
like
if
we're
going
to
build
a
detention
structure
on
south
boulder
creek
to
hold
flood
waters.
H
How
can
we
do
that
in
a
way
that
uses
the
best
kind
of
concrete
that
we
can
when
we're
doing
that
building?
You
know
bringing
in
concepts
like
that
which
may
raise
the
price
three
or
four
or
five
percent,
and
everyone's
very
sensitive
about
that,
but
also
we
want
to
make
sure
the
embedded
energy
in
that
in
the
embedded
emissions
in
that
project
are
taking
into
account
what
you're
pointing
out
for
us
in
the
memo.
H
Like
the
fact
that
procurement
is
incredibly
important
is
something
that
everyone
in
the
city
will
have
to
be
city
organizations
gonna
have
to
understand
in
order
to
be
effective
on
this,
so
I
think
you're
right
on
track
with
everything
you're
doing
it's
going
to
be
super
hard
and
you're
going
to
be
asked,
even
within
the
city
organization,
to
work
on
stuff
that
you
only
have
influence
on
and
not
direct
control,
and
that's
where
the
city
leadership,
not
only
council,
but
you
know
the
lead
department,
heads
and
everyone
has
a
responsibility
here.
H
B
I
Aaron
so
yeah
and
and
the
reason
that
I'm
not
going
to
address
every
single
one
is
because
I
think
fundamentally,
you
all
are
absolutely
on
the
right
track
and
you're
doing
amazing
work.
You're
looking
at
this
from
a
I'd,
say
a
visionary
perspective
about
what's
required
to
to
meet
the
the
demands
of
the
climate
crisis
that
we
have
in
front
of
us.
So
I
you
know,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
thought
sam's
comments
were
very
good,
so
I
generally
agree
with
those
I
think
just
the
one.
I
I
There
are
areas
where
we
can
influence
like
you,
know,
legislative
policy,
for
example,
and
then
there
are
things
that
we're
interested
in,
but
but
we
have
very
little
that
we
can
directly
or
indirectly
make
a
difference
on
and
and
so
when
you,
when
you
come
back
to
us
with
targets,
I
I
would
also,
in
addition
to
the
the
numbers,
I'd
also
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
how
right,
because
a
target
in
the
abstract,
without
any
kind
of
sense
of
how
we
get
there.
I
You
know
we
we
can
say
yes
to
it,
but
but
I
would
feel
a
little
uncomfortable
saying
yes
to
you,
have
a
lot
of
targets
right
like
that
you've
outlined
here
and
some
of
them
very
aggressive,
and
we
need
to
be
very
aggressive.
But
I
I
I
would
hope
that
we
would
have
some
sense
of
of
how
we
would
get
there.
Obviously
not
every
detail.
I
That's
gonna
take
years
of
work
to
figure
out
how
we're
gonna
get
there,
but
some
sense
of
how
and
and
keep
in
mind
that
you
know
like
sam
said
we
can't
use
the
fact
that
something
we
don't
have
direct
control
over
an
area
to.
We
can't
use
it
as
an
excuse
to
throw
up
our
hands
and
say
well,
we
can't
do
anything,
but
at
the
same
time
there
are
areas
where
we
have
a
lot
more
control
over
it,
and
I
think
we
can.
I
We
can
be
more
aggressive
in
the
areas
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
control
over
and
the
things
where
we
have
more
indirect
influence.
You
know,
then,
if
we
set
a
really
aggressive
target,
but
but
we
only
have
a
one
percent
influence
over
whether
we
get
there,
I'm
not
sure
how
useful
that
is.
So
we
don't
want
to
end
up
with
a
bunch
of
stuff
that
we
just
missed,
because
there's
no
way
that
we
could.
I
We
could
make
that
target
so
anyway,
just
to
cross
the
the
need
for
urgent
action
with
how
we
get
there
and
what
we,
what
we
have
the
ability
to
implement.
So,
just
love
to
see
a
little
bit
more
about
that
when
it
comes
back
in
august.
P
Aaron,
thank
you
for
those
comments.
That's
really
helpful
feedback
and
I
would
just
point
out:
we
we
tried
to
move
in
that
direction
in
the
packet
in
attachment
d,
we
start
laying
out
a
little
bit
of
the
focus
on
the
objectives,
targets
and
progress
measures,
and
I
think
what
we'll
use
is
some
of
that
foundational
information.
That
starts,
I
think,
on
page
45,
I'm
looking
at
the
packet
right
now
just
start
to
flush
that
out
a
little
bit
more
in
terms
of
answering
your
questions,
so
I
really
appreciate
that
feedback.
I
O
Okay,
thanks
mark,
I
I
will
be
brief.
I
agree
with
aaron
that
we
are
on
the
right
track
and
and
don't
have
a
lot
of
feedback
for
the
specific
questions
wanted
to
follow
up
on
brett's,
wonderful
description
of
land
use
as
contact
sport
in
boulder.
O
I
do
agree
that
land
use
is
a
as
a
big
deal
as
we
move
forward
with
this,
and
we
really
shouldn't
shy
away
from
looking
at
land
use
and
its
impacts
on
on
the
climate
crisis
and
relatedly.
I
hope
this
isn't
isn't
too
far
afield,
but
since
the
memo
mentions
gearing
up
for
the
2025
comp
plan
revisions,
one
thought
I
have
just
for
staff
to
take
or
leave
is
whether
the
comp
plan
is
really
it's
properly
limited
in
its
scope
to
land
use.
O
So
the
opening
sentence
of
our
comp
plan
says
that
the
comp
plan
comp
plan
guides
land
use
decisions
in
the
boulder
valley,
and
you
know,
given
we
already
weave
in
concepts
like
equity
and
transportation
and
climate
resiliency.
O
I
would
challenge
us
to
think
about
whether
our
big
guiding
document
with
the
county
should
broaden
beyond
the
specified,
limited
focus
on
land
use.
That
seems
sort
of
like
a
20th
century
approach
and
we
probably
need
a
21st
into
22nd
century
lens
as
we
face
down
what
is
an
existential
climate
crisis.
So,
while
you're
looking
at
that,
I
just
want
to
flag.
O
I
think
that
the
comp
plan,
if
that's
gonna,
remain
our
our
you
know:
soul,
sort
of
bible
contract
with
the
and
vision
with
the
county
that
that
it
should
be
broadened.
So
that's
all
my
feedback
thanks.
A
L
Q
So
the
the
building
code,
the
energy
conservation
code-
will
be
2023,
so
we'll
be
before
council
in
2022
20
late
2021.
L
Yeah,
I
I
thought
the
presentation
was
great
and
all
the
questions
I
think
it's
again.
I
think
it's
hard
to
answer
all
of
them,
because
the
presentation
was
quite
long,
but
I
would
say
for
me
it
would
be.
My
only
advice
would
be
to
definitely
keep
on
or
keep
on,
leaning
into
the
color
collaborative
efforts
between
the
city
and
other
surrounding
cities,
because,
as
we
know,
climate
change
and
climate
resiliency
and
sustainability,
it's
not
something
that
boulder
itself
can
solve
by
itself
right.
L
It's
something
that
will
require
a
lot
of
us
together
and
I
think,
having
the
support
of
other
cities
around
or
neighboring
cities
actually
will
make
all
work
a
lot
more
sustainable
and
a
lot
more
effective.
So
I
think-
and
that's
great
I
see
that
in
in
the
memo
as
well.
I
think
that's
very
important
and
you
mentioned
again.
I
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
mentioned
you
know
some
of
the
work
with
the
u.n
again
what
we
see
here
in
boulder.
L
It
seems
it's
a
microcosm
of
what's
going
on
around
the
united
states
when
it
comes
to
global
emission,
and
it
takes
all
of
us
together
to
really
make
a
dent.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
as
part
of
the
presentation-
and
I
think
just
to
reiterate
something
that
I
heard
earlier
from
brett
when
it
comes
to
the
heat
pump
technology-
and
I
did
get
an
answer
earlier-
that
it's
not
something
that
is
recommended
or
or
that
it's
not
something
that
is
required.
L
It's
not
required,
but
maybe
I
I
don't
know
the
inner
working
and
the
inner
processes
of
how
you
know
of
how
you
work
with
these
different
organizations
when
they
come
and
trying
to
get.
You
know
the
process
of
the
building
code
process,
but
what
I
I
thought
to
myself,
maybe
that's
something
that
should
be
strongly
recommended,
especially
if
we're
providing
subsidies
again.
L
We
really,
I
think
it
goes
back
to
something
I
heard
earlier
from
aaron.
We
really
want
to
make
a
change
and
make
a
difference,
so
we
can't
just,
I
guess,
suggest
and
also
just
hope,
that
performance
standard
you
know
it's
I
I
remember
the
comment
that
was
made
is
performance-based
standard.
It's
either
you
meet
it
or
you
don't
need
it,
but
I
think,
having
those
strong
recommendations
you
know
from
the
beginning
might
really
be
helpful
in
helping
us
move
forward.
U
Thanks
so
I'll
just
make
mine
very
brief
same
thing,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
answer
everything
it's
a
big
encompassing,
but
yes,
completely
support
the
work
that
you're
doing
would
to
see
this
continue
to
move
forward
with
as
much
effort
and
support
that
the
city
can
provide.
I
guess
this
same
thing
that
I'll
kind
of
jump
on
is
collaboration
and
buy-in.
So
buy-in,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
the
biggest
thing
that
we
can
try
to
do.
And
you
know
it's
probably
done
through
education,
but
just
kind
of
thinking
of
examples.
U
Basically
going
back
to
world
war
ii
and
victory,
gardens
and
girl,
scouts
and
boy
scouts,
and
you
know
they
would
collect
10
and
it
was
like
the
whole
us
bought
into
world
war
ii
to
help
support
the
soldiers
and
and
the
war
efforts,
and
it's
like
if
we
could
do
that,
but
for
the
climate
instead
and
trying
to.
U
Maybe
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
way
to
use
tactics
from
programs
like
that
that
used
to
work,
but
just
that
education
and
really
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
people
on
board,
because
I
think
that's
the
only
way.
It's
really
gonna
make
any
difference
and
again
then,
my
only
you
know
framework
is.
I
really
hope
that,
instead
of
killing
animals,
we
can
start
adjusting
how
we
do
things,
because
if
things
are
really
just
this
dire
killing
animals
for
growing
grass
to
me
just
seems
ludicrous.
U
B
All
right,
in
the
absence
of
other
hands,
I'll
make
a
couple
of
comments.
I
think.
First,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
an
absolutely
eye-opening
presentation.
It's
a
new
way
of
looking
at
at
this
issue,
and
I
think
it
should
be
much
more
widely
adopted.
B
I
would
focus
as
aaron
indicated
on
things
that
are
specifically
achievable.
I
would
radiate
out
what
can
we
do
in
the
city
that
we
can
control?
What
can
we
do
with
our
sister
cities?
What
can
we
do
in
the
county?
Then?
What
can
we
do
in
the
state?
B
B
Are
there
any
other
comments,
all
right?
If
that
is
the
case,
then
I
believe
we
are
concluded
for
this
evening
and
I
am
declaring
this
this
meeting
adjourned,
not
as
expeditious
as
as
adam
does
it,
but
you
know
we
do
our
best.
So
thank
you
all
and
have
a
good
evening.
Thank.