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City of Boulder Environmental Advisory Board - September 2, 2020
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A
B
C
D
A
E
Yeah,
okay,
so
we
have
one
person
from
the
public
here
to
speak
tonight.
I
believe
lynn.
If
that
is
you,
we
do
ask,
as
I
think
you
know,
that
all
public
participants
rename
themselves
with
their
full
name
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
of
your
photo
of
your
meeting
tile
you'll,
see
those
three
dots.
If
you
could,
please
go
up
there
and
put
rename
hit
the
rename,
while
I'm
reading
the
sort
of
rules
that
were
required.
E
So
this
is
the
protocol
for
all
public
meetings
conducted
over
zoom
that
we
sort
of
lay
out
the
ground
rules
so
we're
pleased
to
have
everyone
join
us
to
strike
the
balance
between
meaningful
and
transparent
engagement
and
loan
security.
The
following
rules
will
be
applied
for
this
meeting.
The
meeting
has
been
called
to
conduct
the
business
of
the
city
of
boulder
activities
that
disrupt
delay
or
otherwise
interfere
with
the
meeting
are
prohibited.
E
The
time
for
speaking
or
asking
questions
may
be
limited.
No
person
shall
speak,
except
when
recognized
by
the
person,
presiding
and
no
person
shall
speak
for
longer
than
the
time
allotted
each
person
shall
register
to
speak
at
the
meeting.
Using
that
person's
real
and
full
name,
any
person
believed
to
be
using
a
synonym
will
not
be
permitted
to
speak
at
the
meeting.
If
someone
comes
into
the
meeting
with
a
telephone
number
or
name
associated
with
a
specific
device,
the
host
may
ask
for
a
full
name
before
allowing
the
individual
to
speak.
E
No
video
will
be
permitted
for
those
speaking
except
for
city
officials,
employees
and
invited
speakers
and
presenters.
All
others
will
participate
by
voice.
Only
the
person
presiding
at
the
meeting
shall
enforce
these
rules
by
muting.
Anyone
who
violates
any
rule
if
the
chat
function
is
enabled
it
will
be
used
for
individuals
to
communicate
with
the
host.
It
should
be
used
for
technical
online
platform
related
questions
only
if
an
attendee
attempts
to
use
chat
for
any
reason
other
than
seeking
assistance
from
the
host
the
city
reserves
the
right
to
disable
the
individual's
access
to
chat.
E
E
Okay,
so
I
think
we're
now
ready
for
public
participation.
I
am
going
to
unmute
lynn
siegel.
Thank
you,
lynn,
for
including
your
address
and
your
your
name
anyway.
So
heidi,
if
you
could
bring
up,
share
the
screen
for
the
timer,
as
you
all
know,
lynn,
that
you'll
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak,
so
I'm
going
to
have
you
can.
G
You
switch
it
so
that
this
meeting
doesn't
conflict
with
another
one.
I've
tried
to
go
to
this
meeting
for
six
months.
You
always
conflict,
I
believe,
with
landmarks
board,
and
it's
not
fair
to
have
these
things
conflicting,
because
I've
got
enough
things
to
do
without
having
to
have
too
many
city
meetings
in
the
night.
It's
really
inappropriate.
So
can
you
do
that?
Or
does
this
conflict
because
I
haven't
been
able
to
go?
Also,
you
haven't
been
meeting.
Why
haven't
you
been
meeting
for
five
months.
G
E
G
Yeah,
so
what
I
want
to
know
is:
why
is
eab
not
involved
with
the
resiliency
program
and
the
excel
situation
and
all
of
the
larger
issues
in
boulder
about
environmental
issues?
Why
is
it
just
we
reverse
reduced
to
like
the
the
landfill
type
issues
and
like
composting
and,
like
you
know,
like
I,
don't
understand
the
whole
board
the
function
of
the
board
and
then
it
and
then
it
hardly
ever
meets
so
to
me,
it
seems
like
it's
kind
of
a
wasted
resource
for
the
taxpayers
to
cover.
G
Well,
when
I'm
I'm
reviewing
I'm
covering
eight
boards
brett,
so
it's
hard
for
me
to
go
to
agendas
and
read.
You
know
I
already
only
get
two
or
three
hours
of
sleep
a
night,
so
I
kind
of
would
like
a
little
help
here.
I'm
trying
to
get
the
whole
broad
picture
in
boulder
and
I
think
that
the
eav
needs
to
be
part
of
the
broad
picture,
and
I
don't
see
it
very
very
much
in
that
kind
of
a
scope
and
that's
very
disturbing
to
me
because
it
is
the
eab.
H
G
E
I'd
like
to
actually
make
a
suggestion
tonight
in
terms
of
our
agenda,
since
it's
sort
of
more
of
a
retreat
format
that
we
come
into
the
discussion
section.
Sorry
oops!
Oh
I'm
so
sorry
marty.
We
need
to
make
you
a
co-host
which
we
just
didn't
get
because
you
came
in
sorry
hold
on
now
marty.
You
should
be
able
to
un-mute
yourself,
sorry
about
that.
E
I
think
it's
interesting
that
lynn,
you
know,
rightly
points
out
that
there
has
been
a
disruption
in
the
eab
schedule
because
everything's
taken
place
and
that
really
kind
of
creates
both
the
need
and
the
opportunity
for
us
to
step
back,
and
this
is,
we
typically
would
have
a
full
three-hour
segment
for
a
retreat
because
of
the
digital
format.
I
didn't
want
to
impose
that
experience
on
all
of
you,
so
we've
just
extended
this
a
little
bit.
E
The
questions
and
I'll
put
these
in
the
chat.
The
questions
will
be.
Who
are
you
and
kind
of
a
brief?
You
know
history
of
yourself
and
what
you're
currently
doing
and
then
one
thing
that
most
people
don't
know
about
you
and
I'd
like
the
other
person,
to
listen
quite
carefully,
because
when
we
come
back
into
the
main
room,
I'd
like
each
person
to
introduce
the
other
person,
so
it's
kind
of
an
opportunity
to
to
listen
and
learn
about
each
other.
Let
me
just
put
these
ques
these
questions
into
the
chat.
G
D
E
F
E
E
C
C
A
A
E
D
D
E
I
Marty
well,
hello,
I'm
marty,
hurling
and
who
am.
I
was
the
question:
that's
an
existential
question:
I'm
a
person
that
loves
the
environment.
I
could
sit
out
on
my
deck
and
listen
to
the
birds
in
our
backyard
and
look
at
the
clouds,
and
I
get
inspired
by
things
like
that.
I
could
watch
the
grass
grow
and
find
that
actually
rather
inspiring.
So
I
guess
that
says
I'm
a
little
bit
boring
in
some
ways,
but
I
do
love
the
outdoors
and
anything
outdoors.
I
I
I
Pan
am
boeing
707
in
1964,
when
my
mom
and
dad
called
my
brother
and
I
to
come
from
europe
to
join
them
to
establish
a
new
homeland
in
america,
and
so
I
was
inspired
looking
out
the
window
at
the
clouds
and
that
always
stuck
with
me.
So
if
I
am
on
an
airplane,
maybe
not
a
million
miles,
probably
enough
to
be
complicit
with
the
global
warming
catastrophe.
I
that
inspiration
stands
with
me
today.
I
always
have
my
nose
to
the
window
looking
out
to
see
what
it's
doing
outside
welcome
susan,
by
the
way.
H
B
Hi
I'm
mike
sanclements.
I
we've
been
in
boulder
11
years
now.
I
work
for
the
national
ecological
observatory
network
and
also
for
the
university
of
colorado
at
the
institute
of
arctic
and
alpine
research.
I'm
a
soil
biogeochemist,
something
you
don't
know
about
me.
Let's
see,
I
really
really
like
and
do
a
lot
of
brazilian
jiu
jitsu,
which
is
essentially
wrestling,
but
can't
really
do
that
during
a
pandemic.
So
I've
been
riding
my
mountain
bike
every
morning
at
six
a.m.
E
F
E
I'm
gonna
have
to
use
this
question
more
often
around
you,
so
yeah
brett.
Can
karen
I've
been
with
the
city
now
seven
and
a
half
years.
I
grew
up
in
wyoming,
so
part
of
what
you
might
not
know
about
me
is
that
I
grew
up
in
wyoming
and
I'm
actually
leaving
right
after
this
meeting
on
my
first
solo
trip
away
from
family
for
a
very
long
time
and
I'm
going
up
to
wyoming
to
go
wander
around
some
of
my
old
jaunts.
E
I've
done
a
lot
of
different
things,
mostly
around
sustainable
land
management
and
renewable
energy
and
working
with
indigenous
communities
and
others
around
these
types
of
issues
so
but
really
delighted
to
be
here
at
the
city.
I'm
also
now
serving
as
the
director
of
an
entity
that
the
city
has
helped
launch
called
the
urban
drawdown
initiative,
where
I'm
also
serving
other
cities
outside
of
boulder
working
on
this
sort
of
issue.
E
So
I'm
going
to
try
something
we'll
see
if
this
works
and
so
in
the
chat,
let's
see
or
in
your
emails,
I
just
sent
all
of
you
a
link
to
a
mural
board.
So
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
used
mural,
it's
essentially
like
a
digital
whiteboard,
and
so
what
you
should
see
if
you
get
that
link
and
it
opens
for
you-
is
something
that
looks
like
this.
H
B
H
E
Got
a
an
image
superimposed
on
it,
but
if
you
take
your
cursor
out
and
go
wander
around
in
here
and
let's
just
say
mike
go:
actually
you
can
go
just
about
anywhere,
but
double
click,
just
double
click,
not
on
top
of
something
but
on
on
something
yeah.
Just
you'll
see
that
it
immediately
makes
a
sort
of
a
sticky
note.
E
So,
but
I've
already
made
these
for
you,
but
just
so
you
know
just
we'll
show
I'll
show
you
a
few
kind
of
fun
things
about
this.
So
I'm
can
you
all
see
my
screen.
So
we're
going
to
make
a
sticky
note
up
here.
It's
yellow!
You
can
see.
I
can
make
it
bigger
you.
Can
it
pulls
up
a
menu
of
things?
I
can
change
the
color
here.
E
H
E
E
So
I'm
just
going
here
and
I'll
just
start
in
on
merriam's,
and
I
could
just
start
saying:
okay
and
what
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
do
is
say
what
are
the
three
issues
or
or
sort
of
big
ideas
that
you're
hoping
that
eab
could
really
focus
on
because
of
your
own
view
of
what's
happening
in
the
world
and
around
environmental
issues.
So,
let's
just
say
it's
air
quality.
E
And
so
I
would
have
you
do
all
three
of
your
sticky
notes
like
that
I'll
just
take
this
out
now,
in
fact
I'll
just
I
can
delete
that
and
then
I
can
double
click
and
make
another
one
and
I'll
just
move
that
back
down
here
so
and
then
I'll
zoom
out.
So
don't
move
them
out.
We're
gonna
we'll
do
that
in
a
subsequent
exercise.
But
for
this
for
the
moment
just
go
in
here
and
fill
in
your
three
issues
and
see
if
that
will
open
work
for.
E
E
I
E
F
E
I
H
E
B
F
B
E
Now,
I
think,
obviously
we're
putting
these
issues
on
the
table
because
we
think
they're
important,
but
we're
going
to
try
together
to
start
mapping
where,
where
we
think
they
are
in
terms
of
importance
and
then
for
feasibility
or
just
some
way
to
start
thinking
about
how
we
might
prioritize
those
so,
but
we're
not
going
to
do
that
yet.
So
I
think
it
looks
like
we've
got
everybody
oops,
no
wait!
A
minute!
Marty,
marty,
you're
you're,
not
yet
not
marty!
I
make
a
mistake:
no
you're,
just
we're
not
putting
him
out
there,
yet
I'm
gonna.
E
C
So
what
I
said
is
I
would
like
to
see
more
transparent
communication
on
how
to
sit
how
citizens
can
protect
their
health
under
negative
air
quality
conditions.
I'd
like
to
see
improved
communication
and
transparency
around
the
excel
deal
and
a
plan
of
action
around
preparation
and
response
to
smoke
impacts
from
wildfires.
I
I
One
of
the
studies
I'm
currently
doing
is
understanding
the
the
millennium
drought
in
the
western
u.s
and
making
sense
as
to
whether
that
is
a
mega
drought
that
will
go
away
or
whether
this
is
the
drought
of
the
future
that
we
should
be
expecting
as
an
ongoing
concern.
So
I
think
we
need
to
deal
with
that
and
then
really
related
to
that
drought
and
heat
is
the
wildfire
threat
and
I'm
thinking
not
just
only
the
colorado
wide
or
the
west
wide,
but
really
the
front
range.
H
A
I
guess
I
put
the
excel
franchise
agreement,
assuming
it's
passed
by
voters
and
I
guess
the
municipalization
process,
if
it's
not
the
steam
app
process,
which
I
guess
I'm
assuming
is
still
somewhere
out
there
in
the
city's
covered,
related
regions
and
ongoing,
and
I
think
we
still
have.
I
think
what
we've
been
doing
on
urban
heat
islands
is
interesting
and
there's
still
lots
of
work.
We
can
do.
D
Yeah,
so
I
headlined
all
of
my
climate
emergency
because
it
makes
me
a
little
crazy
that
we're
in
a
climate
emergency,
but
very
few
people
in
the
city
seem
to
mention
that
very
often,
and
I
think
I
prioritize
based
on
the
things
that
I
think,
if
you
just
did
a
pareto
analysis,
are
the
biggest
contributors.
So
number
one
is
electricity,
production
and
distribution.
You
could
put
that
right
next
to
excel
franchise,
because
that's
essentially
the
short-term
term
thing
facing
us.
D
So
that's
the
second
most
important
thing
to
me
and
the
third
most
important
thing
is
building
an
urban
planning
because
of
the
impacts
of
the
way
we're
doing
things
on
climate
emergency,
and
you
can
put
that
near
urban
heat
islands,
which
is
one
of
the
problems
with
the
way
we
do.
Building
and
urban
planning.
D
B
B
B
We
can
do
whatever
we
want
and
and
produce
no
carbon,
but
that
doesn't
mean
it's
not
going
to
get
hotter
here,
but
we
can,
you
know,
do
something
for
our
citizens
by
addressing
the
urban
heat
island
and
making
it
more
pleasant
to
be
here
when
it
is
hotter
and
then
soil
quality.
I
think,
is
another
good
one
and
there's
a
lot
under
that,
but-
and
I
think
sort
of
prairie
dogs
touch
on
that
as
well.
There's
a
bunch
of
things
that
go
there,
but
that's
meant
to.
E
They
they
mark
or
they
clump
pretty
nicely.
There
are
some
good
outliers
here
that
so
we
have
soil
quality,
sort
of
transportation
issues
which
are
a
little
different
from
others,
but
we
have
this
urban
heat
heat
stress,
climate,
emergency,
around
buildings
and
planning.
You
I'll
put
this
one
down
here.
E
E
D
E
E
So
I
wanted
to
do
that
first
before
we
go
into
the
sort
of
topical
discussions
just
because
I
think
it's
kind
of
helpful
to
get
a
sense
of
what
people's
broader
concerns
are
and
what
issues
they're
tracking,
and
that
also
probably
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
reference
point
as
we
listen
to
each
other.
Talk
about
what
our
perspectives
on
these
issues
that
we're
going
to
dive
into
now
are.
But
before
we
go
there,
I
wanted
to
just
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
refreshed
our
our
understanding.
E
E
One
of
the
documents
is
this
environmental
advisory
board
mission.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
way
to
start
this
conversation,
because
it's
the
most
concise
description
of
what
the
eab
is.
So
the
environmental
advisory
board
consists
of
five
members
appointed
by
the
city
each
to
serve
a
five-year
term.
E
E
The
board
provides
advice
to
other
city
boards
and
city
council
concerning
the
effects
of
any
proposed
master
plan
or
vision
on
the
physical
environment.
So
that's
actually
kind
of
another
specific
feature
that
environment
that
the
eab
is
called
to
review,
which
is
any
sort
of
master
planning
effort
as
well,
and
that
includes
uptune,
including
even
the
comprehensive
plan.
E
E
The
environmental
advisory
board
and
advisory
boards
in
general
are
intended
to
really
help
council
by
being
a
sort
of
extension
of
this
citizen's
leadership
and
advisory
and
oversight
process
to
the
city,
to
advise
city,
council
and
the
city
manager,
which
therefore
includes
all
of
staff
concerning
waste
management,
recycling,
energy
efficiency,
environmental
risks
and
pollution
control.
Acceptance
is
already
assigned
to
other
boards
and
commissions.
E
This
is
another
piece
that
sometimes
it
doesn't
come
up
very
often,
but
sometimes
it
could
come
up
like,
for
example,
around
open
space
issues.
The
eab
may
have
an
opinion,
but
it
could
be
that
it's
actually
an
issue
that
is
clearly
under
the
jurisdiction
of
osbt
to
be
the
primary
advisory
board
on
same
thing
could
happen
around
parks
or
other
these
users
that
sometimes
overlap
with
us
to
advise
city
council
concerning
an
appropriate
advocacy
role
for
the
city
and
state
regional
and
federal
environmental
matters.
E
So
there
is
this.
This
sort
of
opening
that
eab
can
weigh
in
on
other
issues.
Typically,
city
council
would
be
the
one
that
sort
of
directed
eab
to
pick
up
an
issue
and
look
at
it
more
deeply
or
city
council
could
say
if
vab
started
to
look
at
something.
No,
that's
not
since
it's
not
in
your
charter,
that's
not
something
that
you
should
look
at,
but
I
think
everything
that
we've
talked
about
so
far
is
already
well
within
the
charter.
So
it's
so
perfectly
legitimate
for
the
board
to
be
looking
at.
E
So
I
just,
but
I
think,
one
of
the
most
important
things
I
do
want
to
emphasize-
and
this
is
an
issue-
that's
come
up
many
times
in
this
board
and
the
ebbs
and
wayne's,
depending
on
the
kind
of
level
of
ambition.
Frankly,
of
the
people
who
come
onto
the
board,
which
is
how
much
prerogative
does
the
eab
have
to
pursue
its
own
environmental
concerns
and
interests
versus
its
role
in
responding
to
what
staff
or
council
ask
eab
to
comment
on.
E
So
that's
that's
a
kind
of
very
conventional
way.
Eab
is
operated
a
couple
of
years
ago.
Some
some
of
the
board
members
started
to
be
frustrated
that
that
felt
like
that.
You
were
essentially
being
asked
to
kind
of
do
a
rubber
stamping
process
and
not
having
input
on
things
ahead
of
time
or
really
having
the
prerogative
to
try
to
raise
issues
and
so
actually
eab.
E
It
thinks
the
city
should
be
concerned
about,
and
the
next
step
in
that
process
will
be
for
us
to
think
about,
and
for
me
and
in
my
role
to
think
about
how
I
can
bring
that
issue
back
to
the
city
and
see
how
it
wants
to
prioritize
that
issue.
So
let
me
stop.
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
talking,
but
I
did
want
to
make
that
distinction.
Susan.
D
G
A
C
C
H
E
E
I
They
carry
different
weights
and
I
know
that
gets
into
semantics,
maybe
a
little
bit
of
hair
splitting,
but
at
some
high
levels
I
think
at
council
level.
Those
different
phrases
probably
mean
something
different.
They
imply
a
different
level
of
expertise,
perhaps
even
authority
or
importance
of
what's
being
stated,
and
so
maybe
this
is
what
we
can
talk
about
during
the
course
of
the
evening.
As
to
you
know,
where
do
we
fall
in
terms
of
advice,
suggestions
and
recommendations
in
the
letter
that
we
drafted
here
this
past
year?
I
E
B
I
was
just
going
to
say
one
other
thing
that
we
didn't
talk
about,
but
we'll
talk
about
later
so
I
haven't
mentioned
it
yet
was
we
do
get
to
also
sometimes
have
representatives
on
other
like
advisory
efforts
where
people
from
a
bunch
of
different
boards
come
together,
like
the
greenways
advisory
committee,
which
we'll
talk
about
later,
because
that's
another
interesting
way.
I
think
we
can
provide.
We
end
up
providing
advice
for
filtering
up
through
either
group
efforts.
Would
you
say
that's
right,
brett
yeah.
E
Absolutely
and
then
there's
a
there's
another
way
that
this
board
is
actually
done
more
than
any
other
board
I've
seen,
which
is
to
call
for
a
joint
board
meetings
in
which
there's
an
issue
that
is
perceived
to
be
cross-cutting.
We
we
did
this
very
extensively
in
2016
around
the
drafting
of
the
new
climate
action
plan.
E
E
So
I
do
I'm
I'm
wanting
to
emphasize
this
point,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
we
we
set
reasonable
or
appropriate
expectations
for
what
role
this
board
can
and
should
play
and
and
and
so
what
I
would.
What
I
would
say
is
that
we're
we're
blazing
a
little
bit
of
new
ground
with
this
board
to
see
how
far
marty-
in
a
sense,
we
can
stretch
this
from
just
responding
to
things
provided
to
it
versus
seeing
issues
that
it
sees.
That
believes
that
there
should
be
con.
E
Yes,
yes,
yes,
we
see
that
you've
set
those
priorities,
but
we
think
that
this
is
actually
relatively
urgent
for
you
to
consider
and
then
it
might
be
something
that
is
not
only
emphasized
in
your
annual
letter,
but
there
might
be-
and
this
is
this
is
where
the
territory's
doing-
I
frankly,
don't
frankly,
know
exactly
what
forums
we
would
use.
If
you
wanted
to
move
in
this
room,
we
need
to
make
recommendations
to
you
about
how
you
move
forward
in
this
kind
of
interim
way.
E
So
so
I
think
this
is
part
of
the
reason
I
wanted
to
discuss.
This
is
because
I
think
we're
starting
to
tread
out
into
this
territory
around
this
issue
of
air
quality
and
because
it
is
becoming
increasingly
urgent
and
has
not
yet
been
as
far
as
I
have
known
inside,
our
city
organization
been
prioritized
in
part
because
of
the
way
the
jurisdictions
over
issues
is
distributed
between
city
and
county.
E
E
D
I
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
fact
we're
in
a
declared
climate
emergency,
I
think,
makes
a
difference
in
terms
of
perhaps
the
scope
of
the
environmental
advisory
board
and
the
charter
was
written
at
a
time
when
we
were
not
in
an
environmental,
a
climate
emergency.
So
you
know,
I
think
we
need
to
take
that
seriously
as
a
board.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
you
know
I
think
eabs,
for
as
long
as
I've
been
on
it
has
struggled
with
what
our
role
is.
I
mean
there.
We
have
no
regulatory
authority,
we
have
no
real
defined
regulatory
rules,
just
general
advice,
so
I
mean
to
me
it
seems
like
the
way
we've
added
the
most
value
or
some
of
these
issues.
A
We
were
trying
to
bring
attention
to
things
that
you
know
orphan
issues
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
things
that
aren't
getting
much
attention
within
the
city,
and
you
know,
I
think
we
all
care
passionately
about
things
like
the
energy
sector
and
the
city's.
You
know
municipalization
in
those
process,
but
at
least
as
long
as
I've
been
on
eab,
it
doesn't
seem
like
we
can
it's
too
big
an
issue
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
working
on
it
and
it's
hard
to
figure
out
what,
if
any
impact
we
can
have
on
that.
E
D
D
I
would
hope
that
we
would
feel
like
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
environmental
advisory
board
to
take
a
look
at
that
situation
through
an
environmental
lens.
Lots
of
people
are
looking
at
it
through
a
financial
and
profitability
lens
or
an
equity
lens
or
other
lenses,
but
that
as
a
board
that
would
be
kind
of
like
our.
D
We
take
the
range
on
that
and
say
hey
from
an
environmental
standpoint.
Here's
what
the
outcome
of
the
franchise
agreement
would
be
in
2030
and
2050
relative
to
the
environment
and
here's
what
it
would
be.
If
we
kept
going
municipality,
you
don't
even
necessarily
need
to
make
a
recommendation,
but
at
least
give
them
the
information
from
an
environmental
point
of
view.
A
A
You
know
like
brett,
says
traditionally
we're
sort
of
responding.
You
know
I
see
eab
is
that
you
know
we
work
in
two
ways:
there's
the
in
one
is
sort
of
the
traditional
way
where
you
know
staff
brings
us
a
report
or
something
in
draft
form
before
it
goes
to
counselor
recommendation
and
is
looking
for
input,
and
you
know
whether
they
take
it
or
not
whether
they
bring
it
early
enough
in
the
process.
A
You
know
those
are,
I
think,
the
things
that
have
frustrated
other
eap
members
previously
or
if
we're
just
sort
of
a
you
know,
learning
about
these
things
and
providing
some
input,
but
I
guess
it's
for
me
it's
harder
to
well.
I
agree
with
the
theory.
I
think
the
way
it's
been
set
up,
it's
harder
for
us
to
provide
value
in
that
way.
E
And
it
each
issue
is
a
little
different
and
municipalization
is
a
uniquely
dynamic
issue
in
this
particular
way,
and
maybe
not
one
that's
common,
as
as
others
are,
and
I
want
to
maybe
suggest
that,
since
we
are,
we
do
have
that
excel
agreement
on
the
agenda
to
talk
about
here.
Just
a
second.
But
I
think
that
what
we're
really
talking
about
is
is
the
the
bigger
picture
of
how
eab
relates
and
is
weighing
in
on
these
different
types
of
issues.
E
And
I
don't
think
I
want
to
emphasize
this
one
anymore
except.
But
I
do
want
to
point
your
attention
to
one
last
document
that
was
in
the
packet,
which
is
just
again
more
background
on
the
thoughts
of
the
sort
of
previous
iteration
of
the
eab,
which
is
the
the
executive,
the
summary
of
the
letter
to
counsel
from
last
year,
and
so
just
to
note
that
there
were
six
issues
that
were
identified.
E
The
pesticide
issue,
the
urban
heat
island
issue,
storm
water
management,
study
native
plant
strategy,
air
quality
and
soil
conservation
so-
and
I
would
note
that
three
of
these
issues
were
significantly
moved
forward
in
this
past
year,
that
those
being
we
worked
very
hard
on
the
local
pesticide
ordinance
and
it
was
going
to
be
in
legislature
before
covid
hit.
So
it's
unfortunate
that
that
happened.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
on
the
native
planting
strategy
and
then
a
lot
of
work
on
soil
conservation.
E
C
E
C
We
do
feel
like
the
city
is
spending
an
enormous
amount
of
resources
in
trying
to
address
how
the
city
of
boulder
can
do
better
and
improve
the
situation
for
the
city
of
boulder
and
beyond
they're
they're
involved.
You
know
in
discussions
with
other
cities
and
states
and
and
in
a
lot
of
places,
and
so
there's
only
so
much
that
we
as
a
board
can
do
that
is.
F
E
A
E
Thank
you,
yeah.
Did
anybody
have
a
chance
to
tune
into
the
meeting
last
night?
Oh?
Well,
I
I
don't
blame
you.
We
weren't
on
the
agenda
until
we
didn't
get
on
the
topic
until
I
think
9
30,
and
then
council
literally
discussed
that
topic
for
three
hours
before
they.
Finally,
at
12,
45
came
to
a
vote
and
so
to
make
a
long
story
short.
E
E
E
E
So
far
from
them
saying
this
is
our
domain,
you
guys
stay
out
of
it.
They
were
exactly
the
opposite,
like
thank
you
for
being
an
active
part
of
this.
We
want
you
to
continue
to
be
an
active
part
of
that.
So
and
again,
I
think
that
reflects
on
the
fact
that
you've
been
saying
for
the
last
several
years.
This
is
an
issue
we
think
it's
an
important
issue
and
we
have
an
opinion
about
that.
So.
B
E
E
So
she
has
been
out
gathering
a
lot
of
field
data
on
soils
this
season,
but
she
was
not
gathering
data
in
a
lot
of
those
contested
prairie
dog
areas,
because
we
didn't
know
how
the
policy
was
going
to
go
and
we
didn't
want
to
be
putting
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
in
places
that
we
weren't
going
to
be
able
to
have
an
effect
council
was
really
clear
and
especially
sam
weaver
said.
Over
and
over
again
I
want
to
see
you
guys
gathering
baseline
data
on
all
the
sites
that
we're
treating.
E
B
A
E
Well,
I
I
think
more.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
all
had
a
chance
to
feel.
Like
you
completed
the
conversation
that
you
started
last
month,
I
think
it
was
getting
late
and
people
were
feeling
a
little
anxious
about
not
being
able
to
reach
a
kind
of
consensus
decision,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
there
was
plenty
of
room
for
any
further
discussion
about
this.
There
has
been
those
further
developments.
Council
last
night
did
refer
this
to
the
ballot,
so
I
think
that's
another
important
development.
B
E
Yeah,
so
the
city
attorney
drafts
the
language
for
that,
and
my
guess
is
that's
probably
in
the
enormous
packet
that
council
had
last
night
yeah.
So
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
text
in
that,
because
it
covers
a
lot
of
different
aspects
of
the
franchise
and
a
whole
bunch
of
different
pieces
in
there.
Okay,.
C
E
C
F
One
thing
to
note:
brett
I
was
just
about
to
send
a
note
to
you-
is
that
since
council
put
the
franchise
on
the
ballot
last
night,
we
are
in
what's
called
a
going
dark
period,
and
so
what
that
means
is
staff
can
only
provide
certain
factual
information
to
the
community,
and
so
we
would
need
to
so
depending
on
what
the
board
is
interested
in.
We
would
need
to
talk
to
our
attorneys
about
what
we
can
and
cannot
do,
and
at
this
point
it's
really
just
you
know
answering
questions
and
miriam.
H
D
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Okay,
I
participated
in
a
meeting
with
city
staff
and
a
group
of
concerned
citizens
on
friday.
It
included
matt,
lehrman
and
jonathan
and
steve
katnack
and
tom
carr
wasn't
there,
but
the
other
attorney,
whose
name
I
can't
remember
and
where
we
were
asking
for
some
of
that
information.
D
H
D
E
E
And
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
look
like
it's
a
scalable
solution
and
in
terms
of
changing
the
system,
does
our
being
able
to
achieve
a
certain
level
of
emissions
reduction,
locally
change,
how
excel
or
or
the
larger
system
does
business.
And
so
I
think
those
are
the
questions
that
might
be
useful
to
think
about
as
you're
looking
at
whatever
solutions
are
being
proposed,
not
only
in
this
case,
but
in
others
as
well.
I.
B
I
Yeah,
if
I
can
throw
a
a
point
out-
and
this
is
something
that's-
maybe
technical-
perhaps
it's
beyond
what
an
eab
could
discuss
in
a
quantitative
manner,
but
I
want
to
come
back
to
susan's
point.
The
language
of
the
settlement
process
and
the
options
that
exist
are
two
different
metrics,
whose
inner
comparability
is
not
obvious.
So
to
say
that
we
will
have
100.
Renewable
energy
is
not
the
same
as
saying
we
won't
be
emitting
co2.
I
Renewable
energy
requires
co2
and
it
requires
base
load.
So
there's
lots
of
details
underneath
what
100
renewable
means.
It
doesn't
mean
you
don't
emit
co2
and
80
reduction
in
co2
emissions,
which
actually
I
would
prefer,
because
it
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
hard
metric
but
doesn't
address
methane,
so
it
needs
to
be
generalized.
For
example,
you
can
replace
coal
with
with
natural
gas
and
get
a
substantial
reduction
in
your
co2
emissions.
But
if
you
don't
regulate
the
methane
ch4,
your
greenhouse
gas
forcing
can
actually
increase.
I
So
this
is
really
important
to
know
how
these
are
measured
and
what
they
include
and
exclude
in
terms
of
the
enforcement
of
the
environmental.
You
know
degradation.
That's
implicit
underneath
these
numbers
that
we
read
about
it's
way
beyond.
You
know
what
the
average
public
person.
This
is
why
I
think
we
all
had
some
concerns
about
how
the
public
can
actually
cut
their
way
through
this
and
make
sense
of
choice
a
and
choice
b
and
what
it
means
these
metrics
are
complicated
and
they're
different
and
they're
difficult
to
intercompare
great.
B
I
E
A
I
mean,
I
guess
I
think
these
are
all
good
points,
but
I
mean
at
this
point
this
issue
is
before
the
voters.
I
mean
I
don't
see
what
role
we
can
have
in
the
next
two
months,
honestly
or
should
have
I
mean
I
don't
feel
comfortable
as
a
board
weighing
in
on
an
issue.
That's
you
know
before
the
voters
we're
all
free
in
our
you
know.
A
If
we
want
to
bring
staff
in
to
learn
more
in
our
role
as
private
citizens,
I
guess
we'd
have
to
talk
about
what
the
sort
of
ethical,
or,
how
are
we
allowed
to
do
that
or
could
we
turn
a
eab
meeting
into?
You
know
a
way
to
learn
more
about
this
process,
to
help
educate
us
and
open
it
up
to
the
public
and
the
public
if
they're
interested,
but
it
seems
like
at
this
point.
A
E
A
And
that's
why
I
put
it
on
one
of
my
virtual
sticky
notes.
I
mean
I
think,
once
we
know
one
way
or
another
what's
going
on,
then
I
think
it
would
be
valid
to
pick
up
again
and
try
to
figure
out
what
the
board's
role
in
whether
it's
implementing
the
franchise
agreement,
which
has
a
number
of
public
process
and
input
steps
or
you
know,
components
to
it
or
it's.
I
And
so
you
want
that
transportation,
electrification
coming
off
of
renewable
electricity,
not
off
of
other
and
so
there's
really
a
multiplying
effect.
That
needs
to
be
made
clear
to
people
here
that
just
buying
an
electric
car
and
putting
it
onto
a
grid
that
is
non-renewable,
isn't
really
solving
many
problems
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
D
E
A
C
C
C
Okay,
so
my
I
don't
know
there
we
go
so
yeah.
I
was
gonna
just
go
quickly
through,
what's
currently
available
available
to
boulder
residents,
then
go
through
some
examples,
and
then
there
have
been
several
presentations
that
have
been
able
available
through
the
iron
waste
management
association,
enormous
amounts
of
information
coming
through
about
the
wildfires
in
california
and
how
california
is
dealing
with
this
very
tough
issue,
and
this
was
even
before
the
fires
that
happened
this
year.
So
these
these
are
all
papers
that
were
done
because
of
the
campfire.
C
C
So
for
boulder's,
current
information
availability,
if
you
type
in
city
of
boulder
and
air
quality,
the
only
thing
that
comes
up
is
boulder
county
air
quality
and
the
the
county's
website
is
not
horrible,
but
it
does
not
address
what
is
happening
currently
and
no
real
time
information.
It
doesn't
give
you
the
aqi,
it
doesn't
say
we
are
having
an
air
quality
situation
that
needs
to
be
dealt
with
right
now.
C
You
need
to
protect
yourself
and-
and
that
to
me
is
astounding,
like
people
need
to
be
able
to
have
that
information
and
they
need
to
know
that
they
need
to
protect
themselves.
So
I
put
some
links
in
here:
I'm
gonna
try
to
switch
back
and
forth
to
the
internet,
and
let's
see
if
I
can
do
that,
so
this
is
what
you
see.
When
can
you
see
the
screen.
A
C
I
C
E
C
Right,
which
gives
you
more
much
more
information?
It
tells
you
right
here
whether
it's
an
air
quality
action
day.
If
you
have
high
impacts
that
you
need
to
be
concerned
with,
it
does
give
you
more
information.
This
is
the
bulk
of
the
information
and
I'm
gonna
go
there.
Actually,
let's
go
back
to
this
screen.
C
This
is
hard
see
if
it
brings
you
to
the
air
quality
advisory
there.
When
I
went
there
during
the
wildfire
events,
the
impacts
were
huge.
They
were
very
high.
There
was
a
special
advisory
that
provided
a
further
link
about
how
to
protect
yourself.
What
you
can
do
as
a
citizen
to
protect
yourself,
and
it
was
important
information.
It
gave
you
a
forecast.
It
gave
you
a
for
what
the
air
quality
might
be
in
the
next
few
days.
Also
important
information
stay
inside,
keep
your
air
conditioning
on.
I
So
mary,
it
struck
me
when
we
had
the
event
this
summer
recently
that
a
site
like
the
kovitz
site
that
we
have
for
boulder
county,
which
is
very
informative,
real
time,
tells
you
how
many
people
are
getting
sick
and
who's
in
the
hospital
and
would
have
been
useful
to
have
that
as
a
template.
Maybe
that's
something
to
come
back
to
as
a
very
informative
public
health
website
for
the
covet
could
be
applied
to
the
air
quality.
C
Right
and
and
the
example
I'm
about
to
give
you
was
fort
collins
who
was
actually
doing
something
like
that,
and
you
you
go
to
their
website.
They
have
a
immediate
update
on
what's
happening
with
the
fire
right
near
them
and
and
how
to
connect
to
the
incident
management
and
how
to
protect
yourself
from
smoke,
impacts
to
at
this
link
and
get
updated
fire
information
and
alerts.
C
You
can
sign
up
for
these
things
through
their
website.
It
would.
It
was
really
quite
astounding
and
very
helpful
and
informative,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
is
not
very
hard
for
the
city
of
boulder
to
do
for
the
citizens.
I
would
highly
recommend
if
nothing
else
we
just
advocate
for
improving
the
website
and
and
putting
something
up.
That
is
useful
and
helpful.
E
E
But
let
me
let
me
figure
out
what
the
right
channeling
of
this
is.
I
I
I
was
going
to
say
this
at
the
end,
but
miriam.
I
think
this
is
such
fantastic
information
and
I
want
to
think
about
how
we
bundle
it
together
with
maybe
a
concise
recommendation
statement,
perhaps
from
the
eab
as
a
whole,
so
that
I
could
then
figure
out
how
to
do
that
presentation.
So
yeah.
C
Okay,
so
one
thing
that
sorry,
my
phone
is
ringing
right
behind
us.
Another
presentation
that
I
got
to
attend
was
megan.
The
masters
from
the
city
of
fort
collins
gave
a
presentation
to
the
air
and
waste
management
association
for
a
lunchtime
presentation,
and
they
are
specifically
focusing
on
smoked
impact
management
in
the
city
up
there,
and
I
thought
it
was
very
interesting
and
and
something
that
we
could
also
you
know,
look
at.
I
mean
she.
C
F
C
Direction
and
heat
and
everything
else,
there's
different
sizes
of
events
and
the
particulate
creates
really
highly
hazardous
air
quality
conditions.
It's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
She
brought
brings
up.
You
know
what
is
a
smoke-ready
community,
it's
one
where
public
buildings
have
the
filtration
that
they
need
to
get
rid
of
the
smoke.
If
it's
coming
into
the
building
community
members
need
to
understand
the
health
risks
that
are
potentially
associated
with
the
smoking
exposure,
and
then
they
need
to
have
access
to
the
tools
to
protect
themselves.
C
I
You
know
it's
an
interesting
challenge,
because
here
you've
got
air
conditioners,
running
off
of
coal
energy
emitting
co2
every
home
has
an
air
conditioner,
have
a
safe
room.
That's
why
the
speed
of
moving
to
renewable
is
so
important,
so
you
can
have
safe
rooms
that
aren't
also
destroying
the
environment
through
the
emissions
of
greenhouse
gases.
C
Right
what
percentage
of
houses
in
boulder
actually
have
solar
panels?
I
would
venture
to
say
it's
fairly
large,
but
that's
a
different
conversation
smoke
impact
management
of
what
is
fort
collins,
doing
they're,
collaborating
with
partners
they're,
looking
they're
putting
together
a
wild
fire
smoke
campaign
and
they're,
considering
equity
they're,
putting
together
plans
associated
with
emergency
response
and
community
scale,
monitoring,
which
I
think
is
a
super
interesting
potential
and
for
long
term
they're,
looking
at
building
upgrades
and
and
again
looking
at
their
most
underserved
population.
C
C
It
gives
a
better
representation
of
spatial
and
temporal
variability
in
the
smoke
from
for
most
of
the
public
awareness
it
informs
the
responders.
It's
a
citizen's
science-based
program
you'll
see
that
the
the
monitors
that
they're
proposing
they're
super
low
cost
people
can
put
them
in
their
next
to
their
houses.
They
can
put
them
in
their
houses
to
see
what
the
particular
levels
are
in
the
house.
It
just
helps
people
understand
what
exactly
is
happening.
C
The
other
example
that
I
brought
up
here
is
the
city
of
denver
and
they
haven't
specifically
addressed
the
wildfire
smoke
problem,
but
they
are
implementing
a
very
robust
monitoring
program
to
help
protect
the
air
quality
associated
with
their.
Oh
sorry,
lynn,
oh
am
I
supposed
to
take
comments
from
lynn
at
this
point.
C
Okay,
sorry,
so
the
city
of
denver
is
is
implementing.
You
know
this
very
robust
air
quality
monitoring
plan,
they're
doing
it
around
the
schools
they're
involving
they're,
implementing
it
sort
of
an
educational
component
to
it,
so
that
the
kids
coming
through
the
schools
understand
what's
going
on
here
and
can
take
part
in
the
solution
for
themselves.
C
It's
really
an
interesting
program
and
I
would
high
really
recommend
that
you
see
what
the
city
of
denver
is
doing
as
far
as
their
monitoring
program.
I
just
I.
I
know
that
they
they
have
a
a
website,
that's
accessible
and
easy
to
read.
It
gives
you
by
minute
air
quality
information
from
their
monitors
that
that
everyone
can
access
they're
talking
about,
or
they
just
put
out
an
rfp
to
create
a
phone
app
so
that
people
can
put
this
information
on
their
phones
and
have
immediate
access
to
it.
I
just
love
it.
F
C
A
A
C
A
C
Right,
I
mean,
and
we
actually
I
know
that
casey
I
believe
it's
casey,
there's
there's
one
science
teacher
there
that
is
actually
doing
it.
You
know
she's,
bringing
you
she
has
educational
tools
and
she's
bringing
her
kids
into.
You
know
how
to
learn
about
how
to
you
know
how
to
measure
how
to
read.
You
know
the
information
that
she
can
access.
C
C
I
C
C
So
the
next
topic
I
was
going
to
go
to
is
the
impacts
from
wildfire
and
preparedness
prevention
and
response
that
the
bay
area
is
basically
doing,
and
this
was,
as
I
said,
from
a
presentation
that
was
was
given
before
the
last
round
of
great
big
fires
that
were
happening
in
california,
and
just
I
mean
I
thought
some
of
these.
These
ideas
were,
you
know,
really
interesting
ideas
that
can
be
used
and
presented.
F
C
C
Sorry,
okay
and
then
grant
development
associated
with
establishing
clean
air
centers
across
the
region
where
people
can
go
and
be
safe
and
how
they're
taking
care
of
their
their
lungs
basically
and
they
build
up
partnerships
and
regional
allowance
alliances-
and
you
know
I
looked
at
you-
know
the
the
rack
that
is
local
to
our
community,
the
regional
air
quality
council,
and
they
had
nothing
on
wildfires
and
and
smoke
management.
It's
just
astounding
to
me
that
that
there
is
nothing
that
is
being
done
even
on
a
state
or
regional
level.
C
C
Community
information
and
resources-
you
know
this
is
just
stuff
that
you
know,
tools
that
they've
provided
to
their
citizens
that
help
them
understand
what
they
can
do
to
protect
themselves
better.
They
have
a
regional
toolkit
that
allows
people
to
understand
what
they
can
do.
I
I
just
thought
that
was
you
know
stuff.
C
C
C
C
The
next
thing
I
was
going
to
bring
out
was
the
low-cost
air
quality
monitors.
There's
these
purple
air
air
sensors
and
they're
really
inexpensive.
They
measure
pm10
pm
2.5,
all
of
the
particulate
that
get
into
our
lungs
and
make
us
very
sick,
and
it's
and
it's
it's
not
epa
standard
measurements,
but
it's
good
enough
to
really
get
a
good
understanding
of
what
what
is
out
there
and
whether
we
need
to
protect
ourselves.
C
D
C
That's
the
the
filter.
This
is
the
purple
air
monitors
and
you
click
on
this
data
and
here's
california
over
here,
they're
still
having
really
high
high
concentrations,
and
it
gives
you
a
minute
by
minute
average
of
what's
happening.
It
tells
you
what
kind
of
air
quality
it
is
and
and
what
you
need
to
be
doing
being
careful
right
and
when
I
was
first
looking
at
this
in
colorado,
we
were
having
fairly
high
conversation
concentrations
over
here.
I
C
I
And
one
of
the
things
that
can
be
very
useful,
especially
in
speaking
to
maybe
it's
council
or
whoever
needs
to
know.
If
we
can
characterize
the
event
that
we
experienced
in
boulder
this
summer
and
say
hey,
this
is
the
worst
event
in
all
right,
20
years
of
data
we
don't
know,
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
100
years
a
day.
E
C
I
E
C
So
this
is
just
a
brief
on
the
sensors
and,
as
you
can
see,
they're
really
low
cost
like
you
can
get
one
for
just
a
couple
hundred
dollars
and
put
it
outside,
and
if
you
have
access
to
the
data
and
information
like
right
away,
and
this
is
a
quantity
purchased.
I
actually
did
this
research
for
for
the
city
of
denver
because
he
was
looking
at
using
these
purple
air
monitors.
There.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
So
when
I
I
did
a
screenshot
when
I
don't
open
this
one
up
and
it
shows
you
where
the
fire
and
smoke
is
traveling,
so
you
can
actually
see
like
in
real
time
what's
happening
and
then
it's
and
then
it's
also
giving
you
forecasts
again
experimental.
So
I
don't
know
how
much
we
can
use
it,
and
then
this
I
learned
from
from
again
doing
research
for
the
denver
group.
C
These
guys
are
doing
forecasting
of
air
quality
conditions
for
the
front
range
see.
This
is
a
contract
with
cd
phds,
so
they're
actually
giving
you
forecasts
for
what
the
air
quality
is
going
to
be
like
in
the
next
few
days
through
this
website,
and
it's
all
different
pollutants,
pm
2.5
ozone
there's
a
whole.
F
H
A
C
E
I
guess
what
I'd
like
to
think
with
all
of
you
about
is
how
do
we
put
this
together
in
a
somewhat
concise
document
and
statement,
because
you
know
it's
just
sending
the
the
deck
of
slides
won't
necessarily.
Do
it
obviously
so
thoughts
and
comments
about
how
we
could
put
this
together
so
that
I
could
figure
out
how
to
then
get
it
to
the
city.
C
F
E
A
A
H
I
So
just
a
thought
on
this
I
mean
we've
got
two
of
our
six
sort
of
priority
items
from
the
details
of
what
we
were
recommending.
I
guess
I
should
say
what
we
were
suggesting
to
counsel
for
our
20
20
21
activities,
air
quality
and
heat
really
are
both
captured.
A
storyboard
would
be
wonderful,
I
mean
less
words
and
more
images.
You
know
where
you
almost
have
a
movie
that
takes
us
through
the
summer
of
2020..
I
You
know
it
takes
us
through
the
beginning
of
it
where
we
were
all.
You
know
clean
air
and
we
had
a
very
snowy
winter
and
spring
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you
know
the
fires
and
the
heat
really
starts
in
late
july
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
fires
begin
and
and
to
create
a
narrative,
a
story,
that's
visual,
would
be
much
more
impactful
than
a
bullet
list.
C
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
useful
to
talk
about
what
was
just
experienced
to
give
the
you
know
to
help
them
understand.
You
know
how
we
can
make
an
impact
because
of
the
current
situation,
but
I
think
it's
also
helpful
to
bring
up
ideas
about
simple
things
that
can
be
done.
That
will
make
will
have
a
major
impact
that
will
do
something
useful.
I
I
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question
since
I
opened
my
mouth
obviously
and
and
I'm
hoping
that
there's
some
skill
sets
either
within
that
we
could
advise
whether
their
staff
or
other
people
who
are
so
inclined
to
do
things
like
this,
that
we
can
advise,
maybe
find
a
content
material
for
them.
Finding
images
that
can
be
created
and
provide
a
short
spiffy,
pithy
language
that
transitions
from
one
image
to
another
that
takes
us
through
the
summer
of
2020..
I
E
Am
I
right
brent,
let's
not
go
to
what
resources
are
available.
Yet,
let's
talk
about
what
the
I,
what
the
right
strategy
would
be,
and
I
think
I
think
miriam
you've
done
a
fantastic
job
of
starting
to
build
the
the
informational
foundation
and
marty's
now
talking
about
a
kind
of
presentational
aspect
of
this
and
then
I
think,
there's
a
kind
of
there's
so
sort
of
frankly,
a
political
aspect,
then
how
does
all
that
get
included,
but
so
marty?
I
think
this
is
a
great
idea.
E
I
think
the
first
step
is
finish
the
process
of
compiling
information
in
miriam.
I
think
you've
committed
to
doing
that
first
step
right
to
then
handle
and
marty.
I
would
be
happy
to
to
think
with
you
about
the
presentational
aspects
and
maybe
for
you
to
identify
some
what
you
think
of
as
really
good
examples
of
that
and
that
maybe
even
you
and
I
could
start
as
a
draft
for
the
board,
putting
together
this
kind
of
storyboard
that
you
were
just
laying
out.
I
was
taking
some
notes.
E
I
I'm
finding
certain
images:
I
won't
worry
whether
they're
public
domain,
yet
or
not,
but
you
know
some
of
this.
You
can
create
on
an
apple
movie.
Honestly,
all
right,
you
just
put
nice
images
in
you
can
set
it
to
music
right.
You
know
earth,
wind
and
fire.
If
you
want
to
really
get
the
right
band
behind
this
thing,
and
you
know
you
could
really
make
a
big
impact.
You
know
you
start
that
and
then
you
go
into
okay.
I
E
As
somebody
who's
almost
60,
I
can
say
this
without
worrying
that
I'm
going
to
be
charged
as
kind
of
ageist,
but
I
think
that
marty's
demonstrating
that
old
dogs
can
learn
some
new
tricks
here,
so
so
marty.
I
think
I'm
I'm
up
with
you
here
on
this.
I
think
that
the
idea
of
creating
more
compelling
presentation
stuff
is
really
key
on
a
lot
of
levels
on
a
lot
of
topics,
and
so
I'm
with
you
to
start
exploring
that
marty.
The
other
thing,
though
I
do
want
to
put
in
your
bucket.
E
Maybe
this
is
something
mike
that
you
would
also,
but
others
we
do
need
to
make
this
connection
to
climate
change.
So
it's
not
just
about
how
we
had
a
bad
summer
and
we
should
be
worried
about
others.
It's
like
this
is
going
to
happen.
It's
going
to
get
worse,
it's
going
to
compound
other
issues
like
urban
heat,
and
we
need
to
be
using
this
as
a
bridge.
D
E
E
So
this
is
again.
I
think
this
is
fantastic
work
and
really
groundbreaking.
I
think
for
both
this
board
and
for
the
city
in
terms
of
how
you're
bringing
it
forward.
So,
let's
take
this
as
the
next
steps
and
we're
amazing.
I
knew
this
time
was
going
to
fly
by
miriam's,
going
to
put
something
together.
We
could
marry
him.
If
you
want
to
post
a
draft,
we
can.
E
We
can
create
that
sort
of
google
doc,
that's
publicly
viewable
that
you
can
post
into
so
that
maybe
there's
even
something
posted
that
people
can
look
at
ahead
of
the
next
meeting.
If
people
want
to
make
comments
or
additions
there
that
we
could
bring
that
forward
to
be
discussed
and
perhaps
brought
into
some
sort
of
near
final
form
after
next
meeting
and
then
marty
you
and
I,
and
whoever
else-
hopefully,
others
too
would
be
interested,
can
start
thinking
about
how
we
put
that
into
a
presentation.
E
B
That
I'm
happy
to
do
that
actually,
so
that
that
meeting
was
actually
really
great.
It
ended
up
running
long,
but
we
had
some
really
good
discussions
and,
ultimately,
you
know
we're.
The
the
plan
we
were
asked
to
review
was
basically
the
projects
that
are
laid
out
over
the
next
year
right
and
whether
you
know
in
the
future
and
whether
or
not
we
agreed
that
they
were
good
projects
and.
F
B
Was
unanimous
like
buy-in
from
everyone
that,
like
the
plan
itself,
was
great
and
we
issued
a
statement
saying
that
we
are
supported
the
plan,
but
we
also
drafted
a
couple
of
suggestions
for
them
after
a
really
good
conversation
with
staff
and
everyone,
and
those
are
basically
that
you
know
we
agree.
The
master's
plan
is
great.
We
go
forward,
but
we
also
said
that
there
is.
B
We
got
into
this
long
discussion
about
the
inter-department
like
departmental
nature
of
the
greenways
program,
and
that
there's
all
these
programs
contributing,
but
there
isn't
really
anyone
in
charge
and
there
are
sort
of
like
I
brought
up
some
things
and
some
other
people
brought
up
some
issues
around
things.
That
was
like,
oh
well,
who's
in
charge
of
that
I've
noticed
changes
and
like
in
these
things
on
our
greenways
over
the
last
year.
B
You
know
we
talked
about
like
the
amount
of
litter
or
things
like
that
or
erosion
and
people
were
like
well,
there's
not
really
anyone,
so
it
kind
of
gets
muddled.
And
so
we
made
a
recommendation
that
we
support
the
plan,
but
that
I'm
just
looking
at
my
notes
that
we
recommended
that
they
rehire
the
forward
position
of
the
greenways
coordinator
that
was
limited
and
eliminated
in
2018
to
sort
of
tie
all
these
departments
together.
B
And
then
we
also
spent
some
time
talking
about
the
funding
of
the
greenways
program
and
the
fundings.
You
know
it's
28,
the
transportation
transportation
fund,
stormwater
flood
management
fund
is
28
and
the
lottery
fund
is
44,
and
so
then
we
talked
about
how
like
there's
other
departments
that
have
tie-ins
to
greenways
like
open
space
and
parks
and
recreation,
etc.
That
don't
actually
contribute
to
the
budget
it
seems
like,
and
so
we
also
recommended
that
they
like
that.
B
We
for
all
these
people,
who
are
sort
of
influenced
by
the
greenways
program
and
bought
up
against
that.
Maybe
there
be
consideration
of
having
a
more
equal
pitch
in
fiscally
and
seeking
new
funding
resources
to
potentially
expand
the
program
and
fill
that
position
of
the
green
rays
coordinator
and
at
least
that
be
investigated
moving
forward.
So
that
was
really
the
takeaway
and
the
suggestions
we
made.
B
In
addition
to
just
supporting
the
plan,
but
it
was
a
really
good
discussion,
I
really
enjoyed
it
and
learned
quite
a
bit
about
being
ways
that,
like
hadn't
actually
been
made.
You
know
I've
been
on
a
couple
of
those
meetings
now
and
that
hadn't
really
come
out
before.
So
I
think
it
was
actually
a
really
informative
meeting.
B
B
Like
we've
had
one
or
something
like
that,
maybe,
but
there
was
also
it
seemed
like
a
gap
of
a
year
where
we
didn't.
So
I'm
not
to
be
honest,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
a
regular
cadence,
it
doesn't
seem
to
be,
but
it
was
a
good
discussion
and
a
good
meeting
and
oh
and
one
other
recommendation
we
made
was
that
there's
then
you
know
we
all
came
to
the.
B
We
all
unanimously
agreed
that
it
seems
like
over
the
last
couple
years,
there's
like
some
really
great
spots
in
our
greenways
that
have
where
we've
started
to
see
like
deterioration
of
whether
it
be
stream
banks
or
just
overcrowding
or
insufficient
trash
disposal.
Things
like
that
around
high
use
areas,
and
that
that
you
know
the
greenways
committee
and
if.
F
B
Do
hire
this
new
coordinator
should
really
look
at
some
of
these
areas
and
make
sure
that
the
usage
that
the
areas
are
seeing
is
still
like
aligned
with
the
amount
of
resources
being
provided
to
them,
because
they're
starting
it
seems
like
there's.
Some
disconnects
people
felt
like
on
the
panel
between
the
amount
like
certain
areas
of
getting
really
high
usage,
but
maybe
they
don't
have
the
resources
for
that
usage,
as
it's
picked
up
over
the
last
few
years
and
stuff
like
that,.
I
I
B
So
I
you
know,
I
think
I
think
about
how
many
times
I
go
to
chautauqua
a
year
and
I
think
about
how
often
I
interact
with
the
greenways
right
and
it's
like
greenways
are
way
more.
So
I
think,
but
they're
not
like
necessarily
viewed
as
like
some
as
one
great
like
monument
to
like
open
space,
but
there's
something
that
people
interact
with,
I
think
more
regularly,
and
so
sometimes
they
get
a
little
bit
forgotten.
Is
it's
just
like
riding
down
the
sidewalk,
but
we
and
they
get
a
little
more
taken
for
granted.
I
I
Say
yeah,
no,
I
hear
you,
you
know
just
a
quick
point:
chautauqua
is
accessed
increasingly
by
cars.
It's
so
dismaying!
You
know
when
you
see
all
the
cars
backed
up
not
only
up
and
down
the
street,
you
know
baseline,
but
into
the
park
and
then
in
the
neighborhoods
that
go.
You
know
back
into
toward
town.
It's
probably
you
know
100
cars
or
more
just
for
the
folks
who
go
there,
whereas
the
greenways,
I
think
people
walk
and
bike
there.
I
don't
think
there's
much
car
used
to
get
onto
the
greenway
system.
Is
there.
B
There
really
isn't,
and
you
know
they
and
if
you
look
at
the
greenways
map,
you
know
they
they
cut
through
every
neighborhood
in
boulder,
like
or
at
least
you
know,
everyone's
got
one
close
to
them,
so
I
think
where
shitake
was
just
one
spot
right,
and
so
these
are
like
a
yeah,
a
great
network,
so
yeah.
I
think
I
think,
there's
a
lot
to
gain
from
having
like
a
coach
like
that
position
filled
the
coordinator
position
filled
to
sort
of
start
thinking.
B
E
A
E
E
That
we
have
that
example
too,
because
it
it
could
very
well
be
that,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
there
might
be
a
similar
kind
of
advisory
or
citizens
group.
That
eab
may
be
asked
to
have
a
representative
on
around
this
collaborative
learning
circle
around
land
recovery.
So
there
could
be
another
example
like
that
coming
forward.
E
E
We
won't
try
to
move
these
onto
the
board,
but
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense
from
you
all
of
this.
If
this
feels
like
these
are
the
kind
of
primary
issues
that
you
see
you're
wanting
to
work
on
and
be
paying
attention
to
over
this
next
six
to
12
months,
I
say
six
to
12
months
because
of
course
our
context
changes
significantly
in
some
ways
if
the
city
goes
back
into
full
operation,
if
there's
sort
of
a
lifting
of
all
these
restrictions
etc.
E
So
the
world
is,
you
know
it's
contingent.
So
anyway,
I've
tried
to
categorize
these
air
quality
urban
heat
energy
systems
change.
Susan.
In
response
to
what
you
said,
I
I
sort
of
used
climate
emergency
response
to
be
a
kind
of
broader
term
around
the
cmap
piece
and
mike.
I
took
a
little
liberties
here
and
you
can
tell
me
to
pull
this
out,
but
we
have
done
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
about
not
just
soil
health,
but
the
sort
of
sequestration
and
the
kind
of
carbon
drawdown
potential
that
that
that
work
might
create.
E
You
feel
comfortable
kind
of
lumping
that
into
that
title,
absolutely
yeah.
So
first,
I
guess
the
most
important
question
is:
is
there
anything
missing
like?
Is
there
any
other
topic
or
theme
that
you
feel
like
is
something
that
eab
should
be
tracking
and
positioning
itself
around?
That's
not
sort
of
shown
in
this
set.
I
Well,
just
a
quick
point:
had
this
summer
delivered
some
thunderstorm
action
or
something
of
the
sort
of
2013
september
we
would
be
having
on
here
flooding
as
a
concern
in
our
river
systems
and
risks
of
more
intense
rains
producing
more
intense
runoffs,
and
we
don't
have
anything
that
actually
speaks
to
flooding
as
a
concern,
which
is
also
a
climate
change.
Symptom
justice
here,
obviously
was
determined
by
dryness,
heat,
drought
and
fires.
So
we
shouldn't
forget
to
flood
risk.
Have
we
written
this
in
2013?
Flooding
would
have
been
on
here.
E
E
I
A
A
I
And
and
not
not
to
be
any
a
wordsmith
here,
but
I
I
don't
know
that
we
get
the
spirit
of
what
we
need
to
do
in
the
energy
system
space
with
the
word
change.
It
really
is
a
revolution,
we're
really
requiring
something
to
change
on
a
very
short
time
scale
and
and
and
with
the
aim
of
preservation
of
a
certain
form
of
life
really,
and
so
really
it's
energy
system
revolution
more
than
it
is
change.
I
B
B
E
E
Once
again
welcome
susan
for
to
your
now
second
meeting,
I
guess
and
and
so
and
then
justin
thanks
so
much
for
letting
me
be
so
intrusive.
This
meeting,
I
typically
we
would
actually
have
a
facilitator
for
our
retreats,
so
it
wouldn't
be
me,
but
I'll,
be
next.
Next
meeting
it'll
be
entirely
back
in
your
hands.