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Heather
sandine:
all
remarks
and
testimony
shall
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
city
business..
No
participant
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person.,
obscenity,
racial
epithets,
and
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct.
The
meeting
are
prohibited.
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Heather
sandine:,
just
so.,
everybody
is
a
little
bit
familiar
with
the
process
for
tonight.,
so
we
have
a
couple
of
informational,
items.,
there's
not
a
lot
in
terms
of
any
votes
or
really
specific
feedback
that
we're
seeking
from
the
board
tonight.
but
is.
Is
you
recall.
we've
been
going
through
this
process
of
looking
at
the
council
agenda,
looking
at
the
items
that
councils
making
recommendations
under
providing
feedback
to
staff,
and
one
of
the
items
was
some
of
the
real
revitalization
efforts.
B
Senior
project
manager
and
community
vitality
is
gonna,
be
providing
an
update
on
a
couple
of
items
that
she
carried
forward.
really
successfully,
and
by
that
to
city
council
about
a
month,
ago.
and
then
your
second
item
is
going
to
be
a
discussion
about
the
city's
policy
agenda
or
policy
statement.
B
Heather
sandine:
problem.
cassie
was
our
senior
policy
manager
for
the
city.
he'll
be
joining
us
and
a
little
bit,,
and
the
intent
of
that
one
is
to
give
the
board
a
an
understanding
of
how
the
city
goes
about
formulating
this
policy
statement
that
they
take
to
city
council.-
this
outlines
really
the
platform
from
which
departments
really
work
on
policy
related
items,,
whether
we
are
advocating
for
against
particular
legislative
item
or
any
particular
regulations.
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B
Heather
sandine:
and
then
he
hit
some
high
points
that
he
thinks
are
really
relevant
for
the
board
to
either
understand
or
potentially
provide
feedback
before
he
goes
to
council.-
so
those
are
the
2
big
informational
items..
It's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
talking
at
so
apologies
for
that.,
but
it's
a
lot
of
rich
conversation..
So
if
you
have
questions,,
obviously
one
way,,
I
don't
need
to
say
anymore.
I'll,
pass
it
over
to
you
and
let
you
let
you
roll.
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Heather
sandine:
but
nice
to
meet
everyone.
as
jonathan
said,,
I'm
regan
brown,,
I'm
a
senior
project
manager
with
the
city's
community,
vitality
department..
So
for
those
who
are
unfamiliar
community
vitality.,
we
oversee
and
manage
the
city's
special
taxing
districts.,
which
ultimately
enhances
economic
vitality
within
the
city,
attracts
diverse
businesses
and
visitors
to
our
key
economic
centers..
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Heather
sandine:,
but
yeah,,
I'm
excited
to
provide
you
all
with
an
update
on
our
efforts
related
to
university
hill
commercial
area
revitalization..
We
went
to
city
council
for
a
study
session
on
august
tenth,,
presenting
our
recommendations
for
implementing
broad
revitalization
efforts.
in
the
near
term
on
the
hill.
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Heather
sandine:,
they
know,
dates
back
to
the
late
nineteenth
century.,
it's
full
of
rich
history
and
qualities
that
really
make
it
unique
to
other
areas
of
the
city..
It
has
a
really
rich
music
history,,
especially
in
the
19
sixties,,
when
there
were
a
lot
of
entertainment
venues
and
concerts
that
drew
large
crowds
to
the
area.
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Heather
sandine:,
it's
known
for
its
innovative
and
vibrant
spirit,,
especially
given
its
proximity
to
the
university.
and
then,
lastly,.
It
connects
to
really
large
populations.,
so
we
have
the
cu
student
population.
and
then
we
have
a
fairly
large
residential
community
adjacent
to
a
small
3
block
commercial
district..
So
it's
really
unique
in
that
way.
As
well.
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Heather
sandine:,
but
even
in
the
face
of
this
rapid
growth,
you
do
has
been
experiencing
the
state
of
economic
stagnation
for
several
decades.
and
we've
heard
continuously
from
community
members.
That
they've
expressed
concerns
of
feeling
unsafe
residents
have
described,
limited
act,
access
to
a
diverse
retail.
mix
and
then
a
connectivity
to
and
from
downtown
and
within
the
district
as
a
challenge
as
well.
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Heather
sandine:
alright.
now,,
I'm
gonna
dive
into
some
key
issues
that
we're
seeing
on
the
hill.
and
I'm
gonna
start
by
going
over
the
current
regulatory
conditions..
So
you
should
have
a
set
of
ordinances
that
are
really
unique
in
comparison
to
the
rest
of
the
city.
and
those
key
regulations
are
displayed
here
on
this
slide.
I'll
start
with
the
one
on
the
left.
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Heather
sandine:,
due
to
concerns
with
alcohol
over
consumption.
city
council,
adopted
older,
revised
code,
9,
6,
5
b.
in
october
2013..
This
requires
that
at
least
50%
of
any
eating
places.
sales
on
the
hill
must
be
from
the
sale
of
food..
So
there's
no
requirement
related
to
this
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
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Heather
sandine:
and
then
going
to
the
one
on
the
right
hand,
side..
So
in
2015,,
boulder
revised
code,
9,
6,
3
b.
was
adopted
to
address
the
concern
that
the
economic
environment
strongly
favors
student
rental
housing
within
uji,,
making
it
difficult
for
other
diverse
land
uses
to
compete
and
really
pose
a
threat
to
the
vibrancy
of
the
commercial
district..
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Heather
sandine:,
so
in
summary,,
the
hill
is
a
lot
more
regulated
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
city,,
and
we've
heard
from
many
businesses
that,
regarding
the
ordinance
on
the
left,
hand
side,.
But
this
is
actually
fairly
difficult
to
achieve,,
because
the
restaurant
industry
does
really
relies
heavily
on
the
sale
of
alcohol.
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Heather
sandine:,
so,
given
that
this
coordinates
change,
would
group
all
our
neighborhood
centers
under
the
same
on
umbrella
in
terms
of
review
processes
for
restaurants.,
it
would
eliminate
that
50%
food
requirement
and
that
11
pm.
closing
restriction
on
the
hill..
So
the
first
reading
for
this
is
going
to
council
on
october
nineteenth.,
so
we'll
be
really
curious
to
see
how
that
plays.
Out.
H
Heather
sandine:,
but
one
other
thing
I
wanna
know,
is
that
there
has
been
a
lot
of
pushback
from
community
members
on
this
topic..
It's
pretty
contentious.,
given
the
history
of
alcohol
over
consumption
on
the
hill.,
so
the
planning
board
is
actually
recommending
that
the
hill
be
removed
from
this
orders
change..
I
don't.
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Heather
sandine:,
but
the
commercial
district
so
really
struggles
with
challenges
related
to
safety
and
crime..
We've
heard
from
local
business
owners..
They
they've
expressed
their
frustrations
around
certain
behaviors
occurring
in
front
of
their
storefronts
and
elsewhere
in
the
commercial
district,,
including
handling
public,
drug,
use,,
etc.
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Heather
sandine:
so,
and
just
enough
a
couple
of
recent
efforts,
to
try
to
mitigate
these
challenges.,
we
received
a
pretty
generous
contribution
from
see
you
to
provide
an
additional
$45,000
annually
to
expand
the
ambassador
program
on
the
cell.
and
for
those
who
are
not
aware,.
Ambassadors
provide
cleaning,
safety
and
hospitality
services
downtown
and
on
university
hill.
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Heather
sandine:
and
then
it's
also
important
to
mention
just
some
other
improvement
efforts..
We
did
a
landscaping
project
at
the
intersection
of
thirteenth
and
pennsylvania,
this
past
year,
and
we
work
really
closely
with
the
hillboulder
emergence
association,
on
activation
and
business
support
and
retention
efforts..
But
even
with
these
efforts,
there
are
still
a
lot
of
improvements
and
opportunities.
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Heather
sandine:
youtube
relies
heavily
on
the
general
fund,
in
contrast
to
our
other
special
districts.,
so
the
general
fund
transfer
helps
offset..
You
did
expenses
related
to
general
fund
activities
such
as
the
eco
path
program,,
and
the
administration
and
maintenance
of
the
on
street
parking
meter.
Program.
H
Heather
sandine:
some
funding
strategies
that
have
been
raised
in
discussion
to
tackle
this
issue
include
establishing
a
downtown
development
authority
which
could
help
fund
general
improvements
and
additional
programs.,
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
unaware
of
downtown
development,
authority.
dda,
for
short.
H
Heather
sandine:
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
here:
is,
there
are
a
lot
of
trade
offs
to
be
considered
related
to
the
reinvestment
of
the
pleasant
street
loss,
sale,
proceeds,
so,,
as
I
mentioned,
earlier,
we
sold
pleasant
street
law
to
help
facilitate
the
development
of
the
hill
hotel
delayed
reinvestment
of
those
funds
which
are
currently
sitting
in
savings.
earning
interest.
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Heather
sandine:
as
it
stands,
today,
there's
a
14%
commercial
vacancy
rate.
and
the
business
mix
is
depicted
on
the
right
hand,
side
here..
So
as
you
can
see,,
there
are
a
lot
of
restaurants,
but
also
personal
care,,
services,
convenience,
stores.,
there's
retail,
such
as
smoke
and
skate
shops,,
etc.,
kind
of
catering
to
that
student
population,.
As
I
mentioned.
H
Heather
sandine:
and
some
points
comparison
that
I
want
to
call
out,,
not
necessarily
apples
to
apples,,
but
the
retail
vacancy
rate
for
the
entire
city
of
polar
in
december
2021
was
4.7
in
the
united
states.
Vacancy
rates
across
the
retail
sector
hit
an
average
of
4.4
in
the
second
quarter
of
2022..
So.
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Heather
sandine:
and
2021
we
contracted
with
economic
and
planning
systems
eps
to
undertake
a
feasibility
study
for
the
fourteenth
street
lot..
This
ultimately
resulted
in
recommending
a
primary
strategy
of
pursuing
market
rate
housing
on
that
site.
Which,
of
course,
faces
important
limitations.,
given
the
current
regulatory
environment
and
the
healthy
ordinance
related
to
permanently
affordable,
housing.
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Heather
sandine:
it's
valued
at
over
$20,000
and
ultimately
provides
communities
with
recommendations
addressing
their
problem
statement..
So
in
our
case,
we
asked
the
panel
to
address
challenges,
we're
seeing
on
the
hill
through
the
redevelopment
of
the
fourteenth
street
lot,,
but
also
broader
strategies.,
recognizing
that
tackling
a
lot
of
these
challenges
on
the
hill
requires
a
multi
pronged
approach.
H
Heather
sandine:,
alright,
and
I'll
just
briefly
kind
of
tie
it
all
together
before
diving
into
the
recommendations,,
because
it's
important
to
understand
why
we're
tackling
this
work,
now.
based
on
a
lot
of
community
and
stakeholder
feedback,,
that
city
staff
was
received..
We
understood
that
a
lot
of
the
previous
studies
are
either
outdated
or
maybe
took
a
bit
too
narrow
of
an
approach
on
specific
elements
of
the
district..
So
we
really
wanted
to
revisit
broad
strategies.
for
the
district,,
which
was
kind
of
a
catalyst
for
engaging
with
uli
that
ui
panel.
again,
in
2023.
H
Heather
sandine:
the
tap
brought
up
a
really
great
point.
that
I
love
repeating,
which
is
the
once
the
hotels
are
complete,.
People
are
gonna
exit
the
lobby
and
decide
to
go
right
or
left,
whether
it's
downtown
or
to
the
hill
commercial
district.,
and
so
we
really
wanna
address
these
challenges
and
make
the
hill
more
welcoming.
As
we
start
to
see
this
influx
of
visitors.
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Heather
sandine:,
you
can
just
go
right
into
the
next
one.,
so
our
recommendations,
again,
were
derived
from
our
most
recent
convening.
from
ul
uli..
The
panel
presented
a
lot
of
these
recommendations
that
I'm
gonna
outline
here,
and
they
take
the
form
of
2
approaches..
So
one
approach
focuses
on
these
broader
revitalization,
strategies.
H
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H
Heather
sandine:
we
like
to
take
time
to
engage
with
the
community
to
better
understand
the
hills
identity,
given
that
it
has
evolved,,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
upcoming
changes
to
the
district.
and
once
identified,.
We
want
to
leverage
those
characteristics
and
promote
it's
the
city
in
a
way
that
will
make
it
more
identifiable
and
more
attractive
to
visitors..
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H
Heather
sandine:
and
then,
lastly,.
We
want
to
activate
the
district,
we're
partnering
with
the
hill
holder
merchants
association
on
some
upcoming
events.,
but
we
really
see
an
opportunity
to
expand
on
that
leveraging
and
building
on
the
hills,
creativity
and
energy,
potentially
revitalizing
positive
night
life
in
the
neighborhood
and
implementing
other
events,,
maybe
doing
some
alleyway
improvements.
as
well.
H
heather,
sandine:
and
so
now
narrowing
in
on
our
the
fourteenth
street
lot..
So
these
recommendations
take
the
form
of
2
different
directions
which
include
maintaining
you
did
ownership
or
oversight
and
then
in
building
a
structure
on
that
parcel
of
land,
or,
alternatively
selling
or
leasing
a
lot
to
a
private
developer.
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Heather
sandine:,
so
lastly,
I'll
just
outline
some
next
steps..
Here
again,
we
went
to
council,
presenting
essentially
the
same
information..
On
august
tenth,
we
received
a
lot
of
support
from
council
for
these
efforts.
and
our
recommendations,
especially
related
to
tackling
some
of
the
regulatory
barriers
that
exist
within
eugen.
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Heather
sandine:
at
any
time,
heather,
sandine:,
restaurants
or
or
these
establishments
could
be
asked
to
hand
over
their
receipts
for
the
last
month
in
total,
that
they
had
to
provide
them
in
x,
number
of
days..
So
I
think
it's
time
I
got
the
impression.
it's
a
bit
of
a
random
search.
yeah,.
I
think
enforcement
is
a
random
search..
I
think,
on
the
restaurant
side,.
If
I
take
a
shot.
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Heather
sandine:,
the
the
intent
of
it,,
was
to
limit
the
sale
of
alcohol,
the
over
consumption
of
alcohol..
That
would
be,
my
guess
is
just
that
it's
on
the
restaurant
owners
or
the
manager
on
shift,
or
whatever,
to
be
keeping
track
of
sales.,
and
what
percentage
of
that
is
alcohol
or
percentage
of
that
is
food.,
and
if
it's
getting
to
imbalance,,
if
the
city
can
call
for
random
search
of
their
audit,
that
they
stop
selling
alcohol.
yeah.
and
that's
very
likely.
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Heather
sandine:
ii
think
it
just
struggles
as
a
district.
again,,
there's
kind
of
these
2
competing
populations
to
see
you
student
population
and
and
the
residential
community.,
and
for
a
while.
I
think
it's
been
been
a
bit
contentious.
and
again,.
The
the
commercial
district
really
caters
to
that
student
population.
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Heather
sandine:
potential
pathway?
towards
increasing
that
accessibility
without
flooding
the
area
with
cars.
I
mean,
we
have
a
great
relationship
with
the
cycle.,
and
so
I
think
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
working
them
and
kind
of
identifying
documents
up
there.
I
don't
know
which
ones
currently
exist,,
but.
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Heather
sandine:
no,,
it's
it's
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
talked
about
and
reared
up..
I
think,
every
couple
of
years
it's
another
conversation
in
terms
of
accessibility,
moving
people
to
and
from
the
downtown
area
to
the
hill,,
and
I
think,,
depending
on
your
point
of
view,
there,.
If
there
are
different
schools
about
them,,
whether
or
not
that
would
be
a
wise
investment,
whether
or
not
we
need
to
look
at
other
alternatives
like
our.
B
Heather
sandine:
seamless
solution,,
I
guess.
so,,
if
that's
something
that
that
the
board
wanted
to
bring
back
up
as
a
potential
option.
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
analysis
on
whether
or
not
that
would
be
a
good
option
for
older
or
not,.
And
then
there
will
continue
to
be
analysis
on
just
better
connection
from
the
hill
to
downtown.
I
mean
one
of
the
broad
revitalization
strategies
is
better
connecting
those
2,
neighborhoods.
and
so
we'd
love
to
bring
on
a
consultant
to
explore
actionable.
H
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Heather
sandine:,
I
specifically
around
the
fourteenth
street
lot,.
Adding
a
hundred
more
parking
spaces
is
not
going
to
fix
the
parking
situation
like
with
downtown.
there's
so
there's
what
2,
garages,,
plus
a
number
of
surface
lots
plus
a
whole
bunch
of
street
parking,,
and
it's
still
short
on
parking.
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Heather
sandine:-
and
I
think
this
around
was
describing
one
way
we
can
think
about
this
is,.
How
do
we
deal
with
our
existing
billing
stuff?
right??
So
there
is
new
construction,
and
we
have
one
of
our
aggressive
codes
in
the
country
when
it
comes
to
new
construction,.
Even
though
we
don't
signal
that
gases.
B
Heather
sandine:
disallowed
the
way
we
measure
performance
and
new
construction,
really,,
essentially
forces
all
gas
and
fossil
fuels
out
of
the
design
of
the
buildings.
at
certain
levels
has
to
be
net
0.
to
begin
with,.
We
will
be
talking
with
the
board
next
month
about
updates
to
the
energy
code,
and
how
we're
really
using
that
not
to
just
keep
turning
the
dial
on
efficiency,,
but
really
starting
to
get
the
outcomes
that
we
want
in
terms
of
the
performance,
or
miles
per
gallon
from
our
buildings.
and
there's
the
other
piece
which
is.
B
Heather
sandine:
thinking
about
embody
carbon
within
buildings
as
well..
So
where
are
those
high
value
points
where
we
can
really
address
emissions
in
the
way
we
build
our
buildings,
and
then
thinking
about
the
reuse,
deconstruction
reuse
of
those
buildings?
Ultimately,
at
some
point
in
the
future.,
so
there's
kind
of
how
we
manage
our
buildings,,
how
we
construct
our
buildings.
but
there's
a
whole
lot
more..
I
think,
that
you're
signaling
in
terms
of
how
we
integrate
the-
and
I
really
wanted
to
appreciate,
green's
comment
about.
B
Heather
sandine:
job
to
think
about
solving..
What
they
do
is
they
reach
out
and
work
with
other
departments,,
including
mine,,
to
say,?
How
do
we
integrate
some
of
the
objectives
that
we
are
trying
to
push
forward
in
terms
of
natural
cooling
strategies.?
How
do
we
think
about
improv
services
and
thinking
about
our
ecosystems,
management,
thinking
about
transportation
and
density,
and
all
of
those
kind
of
things.
B
And
so
it's,,
it's
always
not..
It's
not
always
evident
when
it
shows
up
in
the
staff
memo.
and
talking
about
the
development
that
those
things
have
been
contemplated..
But
that's
how
we
do
our
work
in
the
city..
But
I
guess
I
wanted
to
encourage
you.
If,
if
you
think
about
the
presentation
you
just
heard.
B
Heather
sandine:
and
there
are
opportunities
that
you
feel,
like
maybe
missed..
I
heard
some
good
ones,
around.
some
of
the
transportation
alternatives
and
options
that
we
should
probably
stress.
But
if
there
are
others,,
let's
talk
about
those,
because
I
think
now
is
a
great
time
to
think
about
how
we
integrate
those.
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B
Heather
sandine:,
I
don't
need
to
do
much
more
of
a
tea.
If
I
think
I
gave
you
a
little
bit
of
color
of
what
this
presentation,,
but
I
certainly
wanted.
This.
give
a
warm
welcome
to
carl
castillo..
I've
worked
with,
and
I'm
carl
for
many,
many
years,
actually,
since
I
started
with
the
city.
and
carl
is
really
a
thought
leader
in
thinking
about
how
we
really
design
our
policy
to
the
city,,
and
he
is
incredibly
well
connected,
and
I'll
call
on
him.
Pretty
regularly.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
and
so
again,.
I
think
the
intention
here
was
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
a
the
policy
statement
and
how
that's
shaping
up.,
but
more
of
the
process
that
I
think
currently
shepherds
throughout
the
various
departments
before
he
takes
that
to
city
council
for
ultimately
their
adoption,
doctrine,
approval.
B
I
I
Heather
sandine:,
a
variety
of
with
other
cities.
other
counties,
stay
regional
organizations.,
but
federal
government
and
a
lot
of
times
it
has
to
do
with
that,
because
advocate
policies
that
can
influence
our
community
for
for
better..
So
today
wants
people
what
that
looks
like
from
an
environmental,
perspective.
hopefully,
testing
on
the
interest
that
this
board
has
excellent.
I
I
Heather
sandine:
actually,
ii
apologize.
those
are
position,
principles
as
well,,
which
are
like
fundamental
ones,
like
equity.
and
when
collaboration
things
of
that
nature,,
the
position,
or
the
ones
that
I
have
to
say,,
there's
about
64
high
level
ones
and
have
examples..
We
also
identify
certain
priorities,.
What
we're
gonna
focus
on
greatest
expansion.
I
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I
I
I
I
Heather
sandine:
foreign
work
policies
were
made.,
we
then
start
reviewing,
but
past,,
and
we
make
revisions
proposed
provisions
to
the
to
the
2,024
policy
state..
I
will
be
convening
councils
committee,,
which
is
made
of
4
council
members
on
october
eleventh,,
and
they
will
then
provide
some
comments.
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I
I
Heather
sandine:
and,
secondly,.
We
give
it
to
our
legislators
and
give
it
to
other
policy
makers
who
are
interested
in
knowing
what's
your
position
that
way
that
the
bright
least
they
can
know
that
other
cities
interested
in
this
issue.,
let's
call
them
up.,
let's
bring
them
to
the
table
on
these
issues.
I
Heather
sandine:,
we
have
a
few
more
things
that
probably.
so,
for
example,
last
session
was
huge..
We
didn't
know
that
was
coming.,
so
in
february.
now,.
Knowing
that
there's
this
gigantic
brand
new
spell
that
we
know
that
you'd
be
interested..
Here's
the
proposed
position
that
we
brought
you
in
our
governor's
committee,,
and
we
asked
that
you
amend
the
policy
statement
to
allow
the
city
to
engage
in
that
bill..
So
that's
just
an
example
of
the
kind
of
revisions
that
we
make.
I
Heather
sandine:,
we
can
actually
provide
the
policy.
what
have
you?
just
as
matter
of
course,
a
month,
twice
a
year.,
I'm
already
anticipated
that
this
group
would
probably
like
to
have
some
ideas.,
so
I'm
just
letting
the
timeline
so
obviously,
3,
now,
and
late
october
will
be
wonderful
to
get
any
ideas
and
I'll
be
taking
notes
through
this
presentation.
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I
Heather
sandine:
our
our
energy
office,
really
interested
in
making
color
leader.
things
like
hydrogen
hydrogen
fuel
trucks,
for
example,
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
put
hydrogen
in
your
your
passenger
vehicle
little
easier
when
you
have
a
large
large
truck
and
the
standard
fueling
station
and
the
larger
capacity
storage,
fuel.
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Heather
sandine:
you
know,
manufacturer
pieces,
manufacturing
methodologies..
They
would
like
a
5
year
push,,
I
think.,
but
you
know,.
Those
are
big
science
lot
of
money
initiative.
and
I
think
this
kind
of
capture
thing..
I
think
it's
really
interesting.
if
there
was
like
a
push
from
a
ball
from
the
federal
government,
instructing
the
labs
to
start
investigating
that
or
universities.
and
so,
you
know,.
Here's
all
this
money.
E
Heather
sandine:
go
research
it..
I
think
people
will
actually
do
it,.
I
know,
like
there
was
one
at
least,.
I
remember.
there's
always
a
call
for
proposals
at
the
lab
every
year
where
you
say
I
want
this
much
money
to
research,
something,,
and
I
remember
at
least
one
of
them
was
on
carbon
capture..
I
don't
know
if
it
will
fund
it..
I
didn't
follow
up
on
that
because
it
wasn't
my
department,,
but
there
is
interest
of
that.
there..
There
is
work
going
on
in
national
apps.
on
this..
My
brother
in
law
is
geologist
working
on.
I
I
I
I
Heather
sandine:
to
me
in
my
mind
that
that's
the
eye
of
the
prize,,
which
is
like
stopping
climate
change
and
how
we
get
there.-
you
know,
everything's
important
emissions
as
well
as
carbon
capture,
so
that
can
take
place
in
terms
of
our
state
policies,,
our
greenhouse
gas
roadmap.,
you
know.!
What
is
it
that
we're
going
to
require?.
I
I
I
I
I
Heather
sandine:
and
they've
been
mandates.,
heather,
sandine:,
but
ii.
Think
there's,
there's
gonna
be
opportunities
at
the
state.
Level,
too.,
if
you
guys
have
any
other
thoughts
on
that,
I'd
be
curious..
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
piece..
I
know
we're
short
on
time,,
but
just
know
that
this
is
already
been
in
the
policy.
pipeline.
sorry
little
plan,,
but
helpful.
1210,,
which
passed
this
past
session,
really
mandated
the
colorado
energy
office,
the
office
of
economic
development
and
c.
phi.
to
develop
a
carbon
capture,
roadmap.
and
so
part
of
that
planning
is
to
look
at..
B
Heather
sandine:
build
from
that
to
say,.
What's
the
infrastructure
that
we
would
need
to
put
in
place.
what
are
the
economic
drivers
that
we
need
to
put
into
place??
How
would
we
incentivize
private
companies
to
do
more
capture
and
sequestration?,
so
it's
kind
of
the
next
round
of
in
developing
and
building
up
that
roadmap..
So
I
think
that's
one
area.
why,,
I
think
you're,
seeing
that
on
this
list
is
that
the
roadmap
identified
a
number
of
pinch
points.
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Heather
sandine:,
the
legislature
is
interested
in.
yeah.,
so
at
least
we
do
like,
say,
okay,.
This
came
up..
This
would
be
a
good
thing
to
weigh
on
if
it
does
come
up
again..
This
is
our
position
on
that
issue?
yeah,,
I
think,
with
the,
with
the
bills
itself.,
maybe
not.,
but
in
terms
of
like
figuring
out
the
issues
on
the
trends.
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Heather
sandine:
thank
you..
I
appreciate
it.,
and
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
mop
up
on
the
policy.
Conversation,
saw
a
number
of
those
bullet
items
that
carl
is
referring
to,
without
perhaps
some
anticipated
items
coming
forward.
and
I
appreciated
the
comments
from
from
all
board.
Members.
just
know
that
we're
heavily
involved
in
a
lot
of
those
topics,
and,
in
fact,
we
often
get
called
on
to
either
be.
B
Heather
sandine:
like
major
drafters
of
some
of
those
items
that
either
contribute
pretty
heavily
or
at
least
review
any
potential
bill
language.,
but
a
lot
of
it
depends
on
what
we
see
come
out
as
a
bill,
and
so,.
Taking
it
from
concept
to
a
piece
of
legislation,
is
sometimes
a
little
bit
tricky.
then.
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention,
too,
is
carl.
amazing
job
talking
about.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
policy
at
the
public
utilities
commission,
because
it's
been
so
vital
for
us
to
be
successful
in
that
venue.
that
is,
the
body
that
that
really
oversees
our
utility
providers.
so
rather
than
us,
trying
to
fight
utility
directly.
We
work
with
our
public
utilities,
commission
to
change
the
rules.
and
we've
been
incredibly
successful.
more
than
any
other
community
that
I
know
of
in
in
helping
shape
our.
B
Heather
sandine:
regulatory
policy.
at
that
level.,
we
also
engage
at
other
agencies
like
their
air
quality
control
commission,,
but
which
is
part
of
cdphe..
So
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
those
agencies,
and
that's
all
part
of
our
overall
policy
platform.,
so
yeah,
I
can.,
we've
been
many
times.,
so
this
is
where
we
best
need
you
at
the
pc..
These
are
some
of
the
most
important
decisions.
I
I
I
Heather
sandine:
this
used
to
be
a
legislative
agenda..
It's
a
policy
statement
now
reflects
2
things..
One
is
not
just
legislated
policy
more
broadly.,
it's
a
statement,,
not
just
an
agenda,,
because
it's
not
just
what's
coming
up
this
next
session,
to
give
you
things,,
as
you
said,
over
next
5
years.,.
B
I
I
B
Heather
sandine:,
so
let
me
just
kind
of
kick
off
and
say,.
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
glimpse
of
your
next
month.
Meeting.
obviously,.
I
think
we
reference
that
there's
gonna
be
a
a
pretty
full
agenda.
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
wanting
to
bring,
really
eager
to
bring
to
you
is
this
idea
of
updates
to
our
energy
code,,
which
I
referenced
a
little
bit
earlier..
So
we
had
a
conversation
with
counsel..
I
think,,
as
you
all
know,,
not
that
long
ago,
and
talking
about
how
we
synchronize
some
of
the
updates
to
the
energy.
B
Heather
sandine:
code.
and
then
what
each
of
those
means,
what
w.,
what
our
outcome?
Is,?
What's
our
objective
in
those
updates?
again,,
it's
not
just
to
just
turn
the
dial,
but
really
to
think
about
how
do
we
seek
the
outcome?
Right
now.,
it's
really
looking
at
how
we
drive
gaps
out
of
our
portfolio,,
particularly
in
our
in
our
existing
buildings..
Obviously
we
can
do
that
easily
with
new
construction..
So
that's
a
big
piece
of
what
we're
gonna
be
talking.
About.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
agenda..
There
are
few
things
that
I
think
are
probably
important,
one
not
to
necessarily
provide
input,,
but
there
is
the
overall
budget.,
so
the
city
just
released
its
2024
budget.
of
course,
that
includes
my
department's
funding,
and
how
it
starts
to
align
around
our
sustainability,
equity,
and
resilience
framework..
That's
the
piece
that
I
think
is
more
interesting
to
all
of
you..
How.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
second,
you
go
about
halfway
down.,
there
is
going
to
be
a
conversation,
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
detail
on
this
yet,,
but
just
wanted
to
flag
for
all
of
you..
There
is
an
item
called
boards
and
commissions,
assessment,
initial
recommendation.,
the
city
manager's
office.,
had
hired
an
independent
evaluator
to
start
looking
at
the
overall
portfolio
of
boards
and
commissions.
B
Heather
sandine:
understand
what
are
some
things
that
are
really
working?:
they
did
a
lot
of
interviews..
Maybe
some
of
you
participated
in
those
interviews.
and
I
think
there
are
going
to
be
some
recommendations..
I
honestly
could
not
predict
what
that
would
look
like..
I
don't
know
yet,,
but
that's
something
that
I'll
make
sure
that
we're
all
aware
of
our
sales.
B
B
Heather
sandine:,
the
reason
we
sequence
it.
That
way
is
what
we
come
back
with
is
an
actual
ordinance.,
and
so
what
we'd
like
to
signal
to
them?
Is,
hey?,
when
we,
when
you
see
the
update,
here's
what
we're
targeting,
we're
really
gonna,
be
focusing
on
gas.,
so
we're
gonna
be
focusing
on
these
kind
of
performance
measures
within
the
energy
code..
Is
that
the
kind
of
thing
council
that
you
want
to
see
in
the
ordinance.
B
Heather
sandine::
that's
what
we're
gonna
be
talking
you
all
about
next
month
to
get
your
input.,
but
then
we
can
take
the
council
and
say,
here's
the
package.!
Here's!
What
we're
thinking
about
in
terms
of
the
update
to
the
energy
code.
so
that'll
be
on
november
ninth..
You
already
have
that
on
your
trajectory.
The
water
efficiency
plan.
update.
B
Heather
sandine:
working
to
figure
out
how
to
get
that
in
front
of
you
as
well..
It's
not
an
area
that
we
spend
as
much
time,
and
I
think
we
probably
should,
as
a
board,
talking
about
some
of
the
other
elements
like
water..
So
there
are
a
number
of
master
plans
that
are
moving
forward
for
updates..
One
is
the
water
efficiency
plan,
and
we've
just
gotten
into
the
point
now
of
looking
at
some
of
the
potential
updates
to
that
plan..
So
I'll
make
sure
that.
B
Heather
sandine::
we
get
that
on
your
trajectory
if
it's
something
that
you
want.,
so
I'm
just
seeking
some
feedback
from
all
of
you.
but
like,
yeah,.
I
see
some
nodding
heads,
that's
helpful.,
some
other
things..
I
would
just
kind
of
pop
down
to
the
last
2
bullets,
boulder
junction
implementation..
So
that's
looking
at
the
land
use
map
updates
as
part
of
the
boulder
valley,
comp
plan.,
how
we
think
about
that.
we're
already,.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
so
making
sure
that
if
there
was
any
feedback,
if
it
didn't
get
in
in
the
ordinance,-
and
you
want
to
take
another
bite
of
that,,
we
can
do
it
as
we
prepare
the
ordinance..
So
those
are
the
things
that
are
at
least
on
my
radar
that
I
think
are
probably
important
for
you.
All.,
be
thinking
about
in
this
last
quarter.
A
A
A
A
Heather
sandine:
kind
of
next
week,
that
or
or
initiate
forming
a
statement
that
we
want
to
be
implemented
to
bring
to.
Council.-
thanks
for
the
question.
yeah.,
the
the
way
that'll
work
is
we'll
be
coming
back.,
so
carolyn
elam
from
my
team,
along
with
some
representatives
from
the
planning
department,
come
back,
and
they
will
say,.
Here
is
the
directive
that
we
had
from
council,
from
our
study
session
in
terms
of
what
they
are
really
interested
in
seeing
our
update
achievements.
B
Why
are
we
doing
update
to
the
energy
code??
Why
is
it
insufficient
right
now??
Is
it
just
like,?
We
just
cannot
continually
update
it.
well,
no,,
you
do
it
because
it
it
helps
us
achieve
our
objectives..
So
what
are
those
objectives??
What
are
we
doing
within
the
code??
What
are
the
impacts
of
of
those
changes
to
the
code?,
good
and
bad,
unintended
otherwise.,
and
so
we'll
lay
all
that
out
and
say,
here?
Is
our
proposal
and
updates
to
that.
B
B
Heather
sandine:
and
then
you,
as
a
board,
will
provide
your
feedback
and
say
it
doesn't
have
to
be
unannounced.
right
to
be
one
board.
Member
said
this,
or
the
board
agreed
that
x.
will
capture
that,
to
the
best
that
we
can.,
I
will
make
sure
that
you
see
a
copy
of
whatever.
That
is
that
summary
that
then
gets
dropped
into
the
overall
memo
staff
memo,.
That
will
go
along
with
a
draft
ordinance
to
city.
Council.-
so
what
they
will
see,
is.
B
Heather
sandine:
here
is
our
analysis..
Here's
our
recommendation.,
here's
the
feedback
from
if
there
was
public
feedback.
and
here's
the
eabs
feedback
council
will
read:
that.
they'll,
take
that
into
account,
and
then
they'll
give
us
recommendations
to
say:
yes,
we'd,
like
all
this,
or
we'd,
like
you
to
tweak
this
one
a
little
bit
or
take
this
one
out,,
and
then
we
bring
it
back
to
them
for
final
adoption.
E
There,,
just
to
clarify
their
their
feedback,
around.
going
further,
was
to
really
identify
and
start
to
explore
what
an
electrical
only
requirement
would
look
like
within
the
energy
code..
How
would
we
do
that?,
so
this
is
again
going
back
to
the
idea
that
we've
now
gotten
to
this
point.?
I
just
wanna
emphasize
this
point
that
we
use
the
energy
code
specifically
around
efficiency.
right..
It's
about
consumption
of
electricity.
B
Heather
sandine:
within
our
billings.,
and
so
what
we
do
is
we
turn
that
dial.,
we
click
it,,
you
know,
each
time
we
do
an
update
and
make
it
harder
and
harder
to
or
more
and
more
efficient
within
buildings.,
but
that
has
unintended
consequences,
sometimes,,
whether
it
be
cost
or
the
ability
to
actually
achieve
those
performance.
Standards..
It's
tough..
We
have
really
aggressive
codes
when
it
comes
to
energy
efficiency..
So.
B
Heather
sandine::
we
are
to
that
point.
now
where
we
have
to
match
up?.
What
is
the
carbon
intensity
of
our
grid
power?
and
are
we
achieving
the
benefit
that
we
want
by
just
using
less
of
it.
and
we're
at
that
point,
where
we
see
kind
of
the
end
of
the
line
with
regard
to
grid
power
that
we
know
where
we're
gonna
get?
You
heard
carl
talk
about
it..
We
know
we're
gonna
be
close
to
95%
into
knowing
that
today.
and
I
think
we're
gonna
be
further
by
2030..
B
B
Heather
sandine:
take
this
opportunity
to
turn
the
crank
one
once
more..
Let's
really
think
about
how
we
use
the
code
for
for
the
impact
of
one.,
which
is
why
you
heard
council
say,.
Let's
explore.,
what
does
it
look
like
to
require
electric
only
either
a
new
construction.?
How
do
we
do
it
within
our
existing
building
stock??
Would
that
look
like??
So
that
was
a
really
key
focus
that
council
had
at
the
study
session.