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for
speaking
or
asking
questions
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except
when
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Presiding,
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into
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Carolyn
elam:,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
can
offer
is,
we're
currently
working
with
energy
outreach
colorado
to
bring
increased
scope
to
the
care
program
that
is
colorado
at
access
to
for
residential
efficiency.,
but
to
really
focus
in
on
heat,
pump,
adoption
in
our
community,
and
so
augment.
Instead
of
programs
and
other
things
that
are
available
to
help
some
of
our
income,
qualified
residents,
actually.
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Carolyn
elam:
not
not
just
pay
their
bills,,
but
but
get
better
heating
and
calling
solutions.,
and
so
we
do
hope
to
roll
that
program
out
shortly,,
but
we're
actually
already
starting
to
do
it.
Where
we
have
furnace
failures
going
on
in
some
of
our
community.,
so
I'm.,
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
be
able
to
bring
up
a
broader
of
solutions,,
recognizing
that
it's
a
slow
process
to
get
to
everybody's
home
with
our
contractors..
But
it's
definitely
a
priority
for
for
the
city
and
and
something
we
are
definitely
looking.
Towards.
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yeah,,
maybe
we
can
mike
sanclements:
do
that
during,
or
I
guess
I'm
not
really
sure
how
that
works,
either.
but,
heather.
could..
We
maybe
add
that
during
the
matters
from
the
environmental
advisory
board
after
we
get
through
this
section
with
that
work.
okay.,
so
go
back.
There.
okay.
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mike
sanclements:
thank
you.,
everyone.,
pardon
me..
I
have
a
terrible
cold.,
so
I'm
going
to
be
blowing
my
nose,
and
all
night.
I'm
sorry
no
worries
it's
going.
Around,
and
everybody
is
struggling.
I'm.,
I'm
relieved
to
not
have
it
right
at
this
moment,,
but
I'll
it'll
be
kind
of
background..
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
speak
with
us..
I
I
did
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to.
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Carolyn
elam:
get
some
input
into
you
for
things
that
we
might
want
to
bring
into
our
conversation
with
city
council
during
our
study
session,,
which
is
scheduled
for
the
end
of
may,
as
well
as
any
insights
and
feedback
you
can
provide
to
us
on
the
types
of
community
engagement..
We
should
plan
between
then
and
now,
now
and
then,,
as
well
as
subsequent
to
that
conversation,
to
make
sure
we're
we're
doing
a
a
good
job
of
about
hearing
from
everybody
in
the
community..
So
that's
kind
of
my
goal.
I
did.
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Carolyn
elam:
very
integrated
into
a
lot
of
the
program
designs
that
have
been
going
on
as
well
as
have
a
deep
understanding..
They
did
start
their.
The
the
principles
within
the
organization
started
their
journey
as
landscape
service.
providers,
so
have
an
intimate
understanding
of
of.
What's
involved,
are
able
to
make
strong
connections
with
our
service
providers,
and
and
really
bring
to
us
a
a
good,,
strong
focus
on
on
equity
and
what
the
business
impacts
are
really
going
to
be
of
any
stress.
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Carolyn
elam:
we
have.,
so
we
were
really
fortunate
to
bring
them
on
board,
and,
and
they
just
been
tremendous
and
and
helping
us
really
understand
kind
of
the
land.
excuse
the
fun..
It's
not
intended
to
be
one,,
but
the
landscape
of
our
landscaping,
services,,
which
we
know
is
very
challenging..
You
know,
as
a
city.
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Carolyn
elam:,
we
have
everything
from
individual
service
providers.,
so
one
man
shops
on
person
shots
all
the
way
up
to
fairly
large
businesses.,
I'm
serving
the
community,.
And
it's
it's
not
a
clear
demographic
in
terms
of
like
these
large
businesses
always
serve
this
type
of
commercial
business,
and
they're
they're
really
diversified
in
terms
of
that.
and
so,,
as
you
think
about
any
strategies
to.
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Carolyn
elam::
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
taking
steps
that
are
are
detrimental
to
that
opportunity
or
creating
a
financial
on
businesses..
So
that
was
really
the
framing
in
which
we
brought
it
on
board
to
really
help
this
thing
through
this
process..
So
I'm
going
to
pause
and
see
if
that's.
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Carolyn
elam:
okay.,
so
so
from
a
project
implementation
standpoint
we
tasked
with
a
few
different
things..
First
was
we
actually
walked
through
our
it
racial
equity
instrument
that
the
city
has
developed
to
really
test
our
projects.,
and
so
we
took
a
good
look
at
some
of
the
equity
implications
that
I'll
talk
about
in
more
detail.
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Carolyn
elam:,
I'm
shouting
one
of
our
local
service
providers
who
operates
all
electric
equipment,,
so
they
have
no
gas
powered
equipment.
so,
thinking
about
everybody
who
is
along
that
trajectory
of
I'm
still
operating.
I'm.,
now
operating
all
electric
and
really
kind
of
getting
an
understanding
of
where
they
were
at..
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Carolyn,
elam:,
and
and
also
interview
them
about
their
concerns.
About,,
you
know,,
electric
powered
equipment..
What
does
that
mean??
What
happens
if
we
don't,
for
example,
use
leaf
blowers
at
all.?
How
would
that
impact
your
customer
experience?,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
the
key
things
I'll
I'll
bring
in,,
because
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
one
of
the.
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Carolyn
elam:,
multiple
organics.
and
so
carolyn
elam:.
We
know
that
this
is
the
priority
piece
of
equipment
to
tackle.
and
so
just
really
try
and
understand
how
that
plays
into
the
services
they
provide
in
our
community,
and
and
whether
what
options
are
are
most
suited..
I
think
we're
also
concerned
that.
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Carolyn
elam:
electric
solution
doesn't
solely
solve
all
the
aspects
of
what
we
hear
from
the
q.
a.
when
it
comes
to
league.
blowers
in
particular..
Electric
is
equally
invasive
when
we
think
about
that
impact..
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
we're
not
just
thinking
this..
Everything
goes
electric,
and
we've
solved
our
problem
because
we
still
have
that
noise,
pollution,
concern
that
comes
into
play
as
well
as.
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Brook
brockett:
mandating.,
everyone
immediately
switched
to
electric
leaf
blowers
as
like
a
very
base.
Level..
So
do
you
know.?
Do
you
know
the
sort
of
like
financial
difference
between
requiring
everyone
to
use
like,?
How
much
more
expensive
is
it
to
require
everyone
to
use
electrically
flow
flowers?.
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Carolyn
elam:
there's
been
a
lot
of
instances
that
actually
sharing
with
us
about,
you
know,
workers,
happy
to
take
those
batteries
home
and
trying
to
charge
them
in
their
homes.
and
there's
been
situations
where
they
have
fires,,
so
they
don't
have
proper
circuit
protection.
they're,
also
bearing
the
cost
of
that
charging,
whereas.
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Carolyn
elam:,
green
ones.,
and-
and
so
we
do
think,
there's
a
community
educational
component
that
has
to
go
with
this
as
well.
If
we're
got
it.,
if
we're
centering,
the
successful
outcome
being,,
we
want
to
support
our
landscaping,
service,
industry
and
their
success,,
and
we
don't
want
to
have
a
detrimental
impact
on
that
industry.
That
creates
a
financial
harm.
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elam:
with
carolyn
elam:
education
and
outreach
to
the
community
at
large,
to
talk
about
more
holistic
ways
of
managing
landscaping,
trying
to
bring
in
some
of
our
ecosystem
progress.
and
I'm
sure
you've
heard
that
talk
extensively
about
our
our
rela
as
well,
and
to
give
that
some
momentum;,
so
that
then,,
when
we,
for
example,
might
move
to
a
full
ban,.
People
are
more
prepared,
and
there's
a
better
expectation
about
what
success
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
landscaping
service.
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groziak
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umhm,
and
I
just
say
a
very
quick
thing
in
response
to
turn
on,
and
then
we
can
go
back
to..
I
was
wondering
if
maybe,,
instead
of
the
2
kind
of
extremes,
like,
we
go
back
to
what
was
normal,
or
we
like.,
just
ban
them
all
right,
or
even
banning
them.
Like
3
quarters
of
the
year.
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carolyn
elam:.
I
would
imagine
raking
a
soccer
field
is
difficult
and
takes
a
really
soccer
field
is
very
difficult,
and
I
mean
it
does..
It
definitely
leads
to
degree
behind.,
and
so,
if
you're
at
the
I-
and
we
have
I-
I
should
have
brought
some
pictures,.
But
you
know
you
have
laws
that
expect
to
see
no
debris.
just
screen.
That.
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Carolyn
elam:
at
least
it's
a
particularly
in
terms
of
like,.
What's
the
larger
duty
cycle?,
what's
the
better
charging
solution
or
things
that
enable
them
to
be
more
successful?,
I
think
there's
for
sure
opportunity..
One
of
the
reasons
the
leak
lower,
so
challenging
is
half
of
the
noise
comes
from
the
air
velocity,
and
nothing
to
do
with
the
motor.
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elam:
and
so.
carolyn
elam:,
but
I
think
there's
certainly
opportunities,
so
I'll
definitely
take
that
one..
You
did
see
it,
and
I
promised
to
come
back
to
this.
the
you
know..
Where
can
we
invest
in
tax
dollars
to
make
this
a
successful
outcome??
So
one
of
the
things
we
were
able
to
do
is
we
secured
a
a
grant
from
boulder
county.
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Carolyn
elam:
yeah,
charging.,
carolyn
elam:,
there's
good
devices
that
allow
you
to
charge
and
and
do
charge
management
to
not
overloading
circuits
in
the
building.
so,
buying
those
outright,
making
sure
they're
in
the
hands
of
our
our
smaller
businesses
and
and
workforce,,
so
that
they're
set
up
for
success..
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sanclements:
yeah.-
and
I
I
guess
I
feel
like
mike
sanclements:.
This
is
something
where
the
customer
should
bear
the
cost
right
like.
I
don't
understand
why
the
workers
are.,
I
mean
they
should..
If
they're
going
to
be
forced
to
purchase
all
these
things
or
rake
a
giant
field,
that's
going
to
take
2
people
40
h,
to
make
where
they
could
have
blown
it
off
in
45,
min.
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Mike
sanclements:
leaf
lower
that
they
blow
their
patio
off
with
during
the
summer,
multiple
times,
and
they
all
love
it,,
and
I
guarantee
if
this
law
passed,
and
then
they
said
no
more
gassy
for
or
electrically
floors.,
they
all
keep
using
them
myself,
probably
included..
It's
like
it's
just
everyone
uses
them.,
so
I
just
feel
like
eliminating
even
electric
completely
with
just.
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Carolyn
elam:,
providing
more
incentives
and
demand,
will
also
help
with
the
issue
a
little
bit,,
because
that's
also
been
one
of
the
the
barriers.
right?,
the
they're
they're
starting
to
merge,.
But
the
demand
is
low,
and
and
we
need
to
drive
that
up
as
well..
So
I
think
I
think
those
2
components
are
really
important
in
our
strategy.
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Amanda
groziak
(she/her):
speed
up
that
process,
and
amanda
groziak
(she/her):.
Once
again,
I'm
not
an
engineer..
I
don't
know
exactly
what
goes
into
making
a
leaf
lower,,
but
it
seems
like
there
are
some
specific..
There
are
some
unique
challenges
to
leaf
flowers
because
of
the
velocity
of
of
wind
that
you
create,
and
how.
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Mike
sanclements:,
quite
a
bit
of
money
in
that
mike
sanclements:,
pretty
cool
program,,
I
mean,
like
I'll
stop
and
let
other
people
come
up
or
otherwise.
or
if
I,
caroline,,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
more
to
go
through,
or
if
you
have
other
questions
for
the
group,
or
you
just
have
it
some
additional
comments
or
last
round.
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Carolyn
elam:
yeah,,
I
don't
have
anything
additional..
This
is.
This
is
usually
helpful.
Feedback,
and,
I
think,
set
us
up
for
it.
Just
the
additional
conversations
with
the
community.
We
want
to
have
lead
into
the
council,,
so
I
appreciate
it.
but
definitely,.
Do
you
ask
any
more
questions
or
provide
any
more
comments?
Now,
or
you
also
know
how
to
how
to.