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Christopher
ptomey,
uli:
the
housing
kind
of
a
team
ability
and
affordability
challenges
that
you're
seeing
there.
We
put
a
lot
of
focus
on
that,
a
couple
of
quick
words
about
the
developer
center.
As
michael
said,,
we
are
the
housing
content
center
for
you
ally,.
We
focus
on
broadly
and
best
practices.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:
sinking
fund
that
can
front
load
the
payment
of
infrastructure,,
but
I
haven't
seen
that
use
once
and
so,.
So
my
thing
is:
I'm
interested
in,
and
you
know
what
kind
of
innovative
approaches,.
If
any,,
if
people
don't
have
the
infrastructure,,
because
it's
incredibly
expensive
and
a
lot
of
the.
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Christopher
ptomey,
uli:,
but
that's
really
that's
really
important
answer
when
it
comes
to
housing,
infrastructure
and
and
again,
there's
going
to
be.
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Christopher
ptomey,,
uli:
and
so,
thinking
about
ways
to
add
density
in
parts
of
the
city
that
don't
have
the
density,,
but
but
I
mean,,
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
the
investor
kind
of
impetus:
that's
there
because
you
know
the
investors
are
happy
to
come
in,
and
you
know
they're,
just
parents
of
kids,
often
but
they're
like
oh
heck.
This
is
great.
Why
don't?
We
do
it,?
So
you
know
those
homes,.
I
think
you
know
disappear
from
our
from
our
middle
market..
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Christopher
ptomey,
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and
the
and
the
rest
of
the
residents
of
the
city
and
they're
trying
to
reconnect
the
city
and
the
university
into
a
community
again
and
it's
been
a
difficult
challenge,.
But
I
think
there's
some
interesting
conversations
and
strategies
being
talked
about
there.
That
might
be
helpful.
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Christopher
ptomey,
uli:,
so
I
think
it's
going
to
provide
incentives
to
get
them
to
provide
the
product
type
that
is
seen
as
more
broadly
needed,
and
because
I
mean,
unless
I'm
I
don't
know,,
maybe
I
had
there
been.
Has
there
been
developments
that
have
kind
of
housing
developments
that
have
failed.
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lupita
montoya:
that
literally
that's
how
things
go
here,.
This
is
the
american
way
of
doing
things.
Give
me
the
same
thing
over
and
over
so
there's
gotta
be
a
way
to
shift
this
thinking,.
I
said
well,.
This
is
not
really
what
we
want
yeah.
I
know
I
love
it
when
I
made
it
so
I'm
make
people
smile,
because.,.
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Christopher
ptomey,
uli:
and
if
they
did,
that
would
leave
that
lower
income
unit
available
for
someone
who
desperately
needs
that
unit
as
as
well,.
So
I
think
you
know
just
from
up
just
connecting
the
market
and
having
it
so
that
people
have
choices
that
change
over
time,
as
their
needs
change
is
critical.
So.
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Hab-Terry
palmos:,
hello,
yo,
honey.,
hab-terry
palmos:
that-
and
I
here
with
a
pita
saying
that
you
know
we're
building
all
these
one
and
two
bedroom
for
rent
apartments,
because
that's
what
we
need
for
the
reality
is
when
it
comes
to
the
boulder
housing
market,.
We
need
every
there's,
nothing.
We
don't
need.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:,
so
I
just
wanted
to
absolutely
agree
with.
What
are
you
sad,
and
I
think
you
know
the
one
point
that
I
want
to
make
and
and
just
really
kind
of
wrestling
with
this
in
recent
times,,
and
because
this
goes
along
with
the
point
that
you
may,,
which
seems
to
be
what
a
lot
of
communities.
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leccese:,
I
think
he
he
raised
your
hand.
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lupita
montoya:
yes,,
so
I
think
going
along
the
lines
of
have
that
discussion,.
He
has
to
do
with
every
time
we
bring
up
the
idea
of
setting.
You
know
the
standard,,
not
a
standard
by
mortal
the
the
goal,,
and
we
do
have
you
know
the
boulder
valley.
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Christopher
ptomey,
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I
think.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:
yeah
just
kind
of
hold
on.
We
are
the
working
group
until
yeah
we
have
a
little
more
kind,
of.
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Hab-Juliette
boone:,
so
with
respect
to
that-
and
I
was
gonna-
actually
suggest
this
as
a
maybe
a
topic
we
could
bounce
around
together,
but
I'm
finding
that
this
size
board
of
five
is
highly
functional..
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Hab-Juliette
boone:,
it
could
be
something
if
others
agree
that
it's
they're
having
a
similar
experience
that
maybe
we
propose
that
to
counsel
on
our
letter,.
If,
in
fact,
others,,
you
know
people
agree,,
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
later
topic,,
but
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
since
you're
bringing
up.
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jay
sugnet:
yeah
well
and
I
was,
I
was
gonna,
ask
christopher
this
question
specifically
because
a
lot
of
the
tools
that
he.
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Hab-Terry
palmos:
that
was
coming
up,.
You
know
from
15
years
ago,
20
years
ago,
and
then
in
the
last
10
years
it
was
more
dense
for
rent
one
bedroom
product
literally
holder
junction,
downtown
a
little
bit,.
So
it
seems
like
it
seems
like
again
what
we're
allowed
to
build.
What
gets
built,
we
could
identify.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
and
getting
him
off
the
record,
so
to
speak,.
Just
you
know,
give
us
the
inside
view
of
why
we
are
where
we
are
exactly
and
why
you
know,
and
when
we
throw
things
out
there,
what
he
sees
the
hurdles
for
those
ideas.
I
like
the
idea
of
having
that
discussion,
next
time,
and
no
or
in
november.
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hab-jacques
juilland:
loops,
like
okay
yeah,
juliet
so.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:
having
something
comply
with
all
the
energy
codes,.
Maybe
there's
some
way,.
We
can
kind
of
fine
tune
that
because
you
know,,
like
hers,
ratings
and
stuff
like
that,
can
be
incredibly
costly
and
especially
if
people
are
moving
into
this
community.
So
that's
just
a
thought
I
had
on
that.
One.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:,
like
I
don't
know
what
our
percentage
now
I
can't
remember
at
us
at
the
total
allowable
is
some
percent,,
and
this
would
be
a
way
to
maybe
bump
that
up
a
point
or
two
if
we
are
lucky.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
concept
of
it
is
that
we're
just
putting
it
under
the
umbrella
of
the
you.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:,
you
know
which
I
have
questions
about
in
general,.
The
zoning
requirements
for
that.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
you
know,
but,,
but
I
do
agree
with
you,.
I
think
that
the
concept
here
is,
I
do
want
to
say
we're
treating
these
like
retreating
there
and
at
you,
and
that's
really
what
we're
doing
here,
we're
asking
city
council
to
say
we're
not
going
to
make
a
distinction
about
whether
it's
on
wheels.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
and
then,
of
course,,
also
just
from
the
you
know,
we're
also
layering
into
that
some
of
our
own
requirements,.
You
know
and
irc
requirements,,
and
you
know
they
it
becomes
doable
because
we
we
brought
appendix
q
and
so
that
allows
some.
You
know
more
room
for
what's
a
habitable
structure.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
could
they
come
in
into
pieces,?
I
have
a
tiny
home
on
or
a
mobile
ad,
you
they
comes
into
two
pieces
and
they
can
travel
across
the
highway.
Is
that
what
we're
talking
about,
or
are
we
not,?
And
so
I
think,
there,.
There
is
a
lot
of
discussion
and,
like
I
said,
you
know,
that's.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:
and
on
the
other
hand,
it
comes
out
saying.
Well,
you
know
I
like
jays
thing
it's
like
well,
if
it's
an
ad
you
it's
nice
to
you
and
asked
to
live
by
those
rules,,
but
is
there
some
reason
that
we'd
want
to
limit
it?
More,
and
you
know
I'd
say,
let's
just
say:
if
it's
an
ad
use
an
ad
you.
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Hab-Michael
leccese:
observe
that
this
isn't
a
innovative.
It's
not
based
on
trying
to
replicate
something
done
successfully
elsewhere,,
nothing
wrong
information,
but
we're
like
set.
It
grew
out
of
a
listening
session
to
grow
organically
and
of
the
work
of
pants
jackets,,
but
a
lot
of
time
to
do.
It.
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Hab-Juliette
boone:,
is
it
just
one
little
piece,
that's
important
and
the
cumulative
effect
of
additional
housing
is
good
enough,
or
is
it
distracting
us
from
other
things
we
should
be
focusing
on
or
is
it
something
else
I
don't
know
so
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
be
difficult.
I'm
just
trying
to.
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Hab-Jacques
juilland:,
if
it's
going
to
add
a
to
us
to
the
next
we're
not
hitting
our
numbers,,
so
I
kind
of
flip
it
that
way
on
its
head
and
in
and
say
why?
Why
shouldn't
we
do
this?
If
somebody
can
put
one
of
these
on
their
property
and
they
can
therefore
stay
in
their
home.
That
they've
lived
in
for
50
years.
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sugnet:.
No,
I
mean
that.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:,
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
effective
approach.
You
know,,
unfortunately
can't
use.
Google
docs
will
try
to
keep
our
comments
as
limited
as
we
can,,
but
use
red
line
and
just
go
from
there,.
I
think,
is
probably.
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Hab-Daniel
teodoru:
yeah,
I
think
we,.
I
think
we
want
to
have
a
meeting,
maybe
just
the
week
before
thanksgiving
sounds
like
it'd,
be
good
for
us.
If
we're
not
going
to
have
a
december
meeting,,
we
can
always
do
the
week
after
right.