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sugnet:
well
danny
I
mean
you
could
technically
take
over.
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sugnet:
again,.
It
was
consistent
with
the
bbc
policies,
and
it
was
done
large
because
it
supports
the
city's
housing
goals,.
So
this
would
be
half
early
permanently,
affordable,
deed,
restricted
housing
project
bhp
is
currently
land
baking.
This
in
would
redevelop
it
as
their
capacity
allows.
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jay,
sugnet:
and
so,,
an
initiative
was
taken
on
by
city.
Council
was
called
design
excellence
and
we
brought
in
an
outside
consultant
victor
dover,,
to
help
us
sort
of
understand.
You
know
what
is
what
is
it
specifically
that
people
are
not
liking
about
the
buildings
that
are
getting
built
in
boulder.
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terry
palmos:,
so
we'd
like
to.
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jay
sugnet:,
have
city
office
space
in
anticipation
of
that
and
we're
in
the
process
of
potentially
decommissioning
buildings,
as
well,.
So
that's
the
first
to
the
the
parking
structure,
yeah
you're,
correct,
so
parking
demand
for
parcels.
The
high
density,
housing.
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danny
teodoru:,
my
question
is
how
the
form
based
code
will
kind
of
align
with
whatever
kind
of
use
contemplation,
because
I
think
you
probably
need
to
have
something
to
and
I'm
sure
you
do,.
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
I
understand
that
properly
and
then
the
other
questions
that
I
have
just
regarding.
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danny
teodoru:
2019,
I
guess
when
we
first
started
wrestling
with
this,,
but
the
other
questions
in
that
regard.
We're
just.
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sugnet:
yeah,
that's
great
yeah,
just
have
to
make
sure
it's
still
muted.
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sugnet:
thing
about
buildings,
so
so
you
asked
about
the
central
florida
issues
for
other
city
owned
buildings,,
you
probably
thinking
of
like
park,
central
and
others
down
by
boulder
creek.
So
yeah
I
mean
it.
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lupita
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montoya:,
I
asked
you
have
moved
on
with
this
project,.
One
question
is:
is
that
kind
of
transitioning
to
that?
It
fits
better
with
a
present
housing
stock
that
we
have
in
the
area.
Is
that
being
conserved?
That's
one
question
is
that
happening,
and
the
other
one
is
which
part
of
the
base
code.
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leccese:
will
be
the
co
developer,
and
I
understand
some
benefits
for
that,,
but
I'm
wondering,
is
there,,
another
possible
scenario
of
say
just
selling
the
site
to
master
developer,.
We
do
all
the
work
with
lots
of
requirements
and
restrictions
for
all
these
goodies
and
amenities
that
you
just
described.
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lupita
d,
montoya:
very
you
know
correctly,
pointed
out
that
we
are
listening
to
people
in
where
things
make
sense
that
that
input
from
the
community
is
being
applied
in
a
in
a
substantive
and
thoughtful
manner.
That's
that
would
be
my
kind
of
response
to
that,
because
those
are
the
key
elements,.
I
think.
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jacques
juilland:,
you
know,
in
the
community
and
just
with
the
amount
of
time
that
passes
between
these
things
moving
through
the
process.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
track
that
so
many
of
these
discussions
have
been
engaged
with
and
we
made
some
of
those
decisions
and
now
we're
just
trying
to
implement.
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Michael
leccese:
I'll
also
note
that
this
really
gets
to
an
existential
question
about
the
planning
process
and
it
came
up.
It's
fine
burden,
for
example,,
you
know.
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terry
palmos:,
I
think
what
we're
saying
is
kind
of
implied
in
the
language.
Is
there
already?
I
don't
know
that
we're
adding
a
lot
of
substantive
material,
they
just
kind
of
feel
good
language
and
that's
good
if
we
feel
good
about
it,.
But
I
don't
know
that
it's
really
adding
to
the
the
value
of
anything.
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lupita
d,
montoya:
guys.
If
you
know
I
know
that
you
are
thinking,
the
mentioning
of
the
community
engagement
being
something
of
a
pr
thing,.
But
I
think
that
you
don't
even
have
to
add
something
extra.
But
it
kind
of
like
just
insert
something
like
in
the
first
and
the
first
motion
where
you
say.
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jacques
juilland::
it's
basically
our
statement
as
to
why
we
value
these
three
motions
that
we're
going
to
provide.
So
it's
essentially
a
preamble
to
the
motion,,
and
that
would
that
just
be
my
suggestion.
I
mean
go
either
way,
but
it
might
tighten
it
up
a
little
bit
from
having
a
four
to
five.
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Michael
leccese:,
excellent,
let's
see
everybody's
waiting
and
terry
anything
else
to
add.
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sugnet:
have
been
talking
about
middle
income,
we're
talking
about
accountants,
architects,
librarians!
You
know
we're
not
talking
about
retail
workers,.
These
are
people,
mostly
professionals,
who
surprisingly,
have
a
hard
time
living
in
boulder.
So
any
questions
about
who
were
who
were
talking,
about.
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jay,
sugnet:
and
so
ideally,.
We
would
be
able
to
do
that
sometime
in
the
next
year.
One
thing:
that's
kind
of
interesting,
as
I
recall
from
this
work,
too,
is
that.
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jay
sugnet:,
it's
when
those
households
want
us
are
starting
to
look
to
purchase
a
home
that
they
run
into
difficulty,.
As
you
can
see,
detached
homes,
very
few
of
those
were
in
the
price
range
back
in
2015,
I
would
say
very
even
fewer
today
for
sure
attached.
Homes
are
definitely
more
attainable.
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sugnet:.
This
helped
us
to.,
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jay
sugnet:
lot
of
those.
If
they
were
redeveloped,
they
would
not
be
able
to
build
the
same
number
of
units,.
So
we
did
a
code
change
several
years
ago
that
allowed
us
or
allows
those
properties
to
redevelop
or
have
significant
rehab
without
losing
potential,
affordable,
units.
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jacques
juilland:
is
this:
might
bring
you
in
danny
is
maybe
you
know
stuff
about
this
and
jay.
I
don't
know
what
you
know
about
it,,
but
so
I
was
selling
a
house
that
I
have
in
keystone
and
the
buyer
who
came
in
said
yeah.
I
want
to
buy
this
house
and
I'm
going
to
put
it
into
the
affordable
housing.
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jacques
juilland:
and
this
particular
gentleman
who
was
buying
mine,,
he
was
just
you
know,
simply
an
investor
who
saw
that
then
it's
an
opportunity,
and
he
was
taking
those
funds,.
He
was
getting
and
he
was
rolling
them
into
another
project
that
you
could.
You
know
another
property,.
You
could
buy.
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danny
teodoru:
yeah
so
make
sure:
okay,
I'm
unmuted,
so
it's
it's
even
worse
in
some
academy,
that
is
here,
and
essentially
so
they
have
a
buydown
program
which
I
think
is
similar
to.
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terry
palmos:,
so
jay,
I
got
a
quick
question
for
you
back
back
your
slide
at
the
very
beginning,,
the
middle
income.
Three
person
household
income,
was
what
$150,000
is
that
right.
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sugnet:,
to
be
able
to
it,
says
duty
for
the
packet.
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Michael
leccese:,
that's
great
and
this
backtracking
a
little
bit,,
but
does
anyone
have
any
other
listening
session
ideas
to
pose,
as
are
mentioned
in
the
letter.