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A
B
Right
we're
on
there
I'll
call
to
order
the
June
27th
housing
advisory
board.
Meeting
first
thing
on
our
agenda
is
a
agenda
review.
Does
anybody
have
any
agenda
changes
that
they
want
to
make
okay
go
on
to
the
approval,
the
minutes
for
the
June
13
meeting?
Does
anybody
have
any
changes
they
want
to
make
to
that
I.
C
C
B
We
don't
make
decisions,
so
are
there
any
change?
Okay,
then
I'll
move
to
approve
the
minutes.
Do
I
have
a
second
Judy
seconds
it
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
minutes
as
written
aye.
It's
unanimous.
The
vote
is
for
next
is
public
participation
for
items
not
on
our
agenda
by
agenda.
I
mean
items
that
we're
not
having
a
public
hearing
on
which
basically
means
you
can
talk
about
anything
that
you
would
like
to.
Hopefully,
it'll
be
about
housing,
so
the
first
person
will
be
rui.
Arango
and
you'll
have
three
minutes.
D
All
right
folks
I'll
go
ahead
and
start.
My
name
is
Rui
Rango.
You
may
recognize
me
from
your
last
meeting
and
the
meeting
before
that.
So
what's
up
it's
good
to
see
you
again
so
I'm
here
tonight
to
talk
to
you
folks
about
something
that
is
rather
intimately
related
to
a
discussion
item
later
on
in
the
evening.
D
That
discussion
item
is,
of
course,
is
you
know
the
ami
and
affordable
housing
rent
increase
before
and
as
I
begin
I
want
to
make
sure
that
all
of
you
know
I'm
sure,
you're
aware
of
this,
that
right
now
US,
affordable
housing,
renters,
don't
actually
have
any
protections
from
that
ami,
affordable
housing
increase
on
an
annual
basis.
We
don't
have
any.
What
we
do
have
is
the
division
of
housing
being
willing
to
speak
to
landlords
on
an
individual
basis
once
a
year
and
to
have
a
conversation
in
which
they
ask
landlords.
D
You
know
in
this
case
not
to
increase
the
rent
by
ten
and
a
half
percent,
and
so
what's
the
result
of
that
is
this
year
in
my
building
the
depot
square
apartments
we
received
written
notice
of
a
7%
rent
hike.
Other
folks
have
gotten
5%
some
have
gotten
lower
than
that
and
the
problem
there
is
that
this
doesn't
actually
mean
that
us,
as
tenants
are
gonna,
get
to
avoid
paying
this
full
ten
and
a
half
percent
increase.
D
What
it
means
is
that
we'll
get
to
pay
it
over
a
longer
period,
because
unless
the
ami
drops
incredibly
next
year,
we'll
still
pay
it
it'll
just
be
drawn
out
over
a
couple
of
years
sort
of
like
boiling
a
frog.
So,
instead
of
a
ten
and
a
half
percent
increase
over
one
year,
you
may
get
a
five
and
a
quarter
percent
increase
over
two
years,
which
is
better,
but
it's
not
much
better
and
I
really
think.
D
That's
good
enough
and
I
think
this
solution
of
relying
on
the
division
of
housing
in
this
way
is
pretty
reactive
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
a
good
one
and
I
think
we're
a
city
of
very
intelligent
people
and
some
intelligent
people
on
the
board,
and
we
can
figure
out
a
proactive
solution
to
make
sure
we
don't
run
into
this
problem
again
and
it's
especially
easy
because
solution
was
already
developed
by
the
city
and
I'm.
Gonna.
D
We
still
had
these
renter
protections.
This
wouldn't
be
an
issue.
I
mean
I,
wouldn't
be
here.
Division
of
housing
wouldn't
be
here
talking
about
how
to
solve
this
problem
and
I
guess
I'll,
just
close
by
asking
a
rhetorical
question.
Hope
you
excuse
me,
you
know
whether
or
not
you
believe
that
the
most
vulnerable
workers
in
your
city,
folks,
like
me,
working
poor,
deserve
to
have
the
peace
of
mind,
knowing
that
their
affordable
housing
rent
is
not
going
to
fluctuate
vastly
from
year
to
year.
I
hope
you
think
we
do.
Thank.
C
D
E
Don't
know
why
Iran
hasn't
gone
up
yet
it
might
be
because
our
building
has
changed
ownership
three
times
in
the
last
three
years.
But
we
really
are
grateful,
of
course,
but
the
truth
is
that,
even
though
our
Rin
hasn't
been
increased,
our
building
owners
and
property
managers
have
found
other
ways
to
charge
us
additional
money
without
giving
us
additional
amenities
or
support
or
services.
E
Second,
our
utilities
for
the
first
two
years
that
we
lived
in
depot
square,
our
utilities
never
exceeded
$35
a
month
which
makes
sense.
Given
the
fact
it's
a
small
unit,
it's
about
700
square
feet
and
it's
supposed
to
be
a
very
energy-efficient
building.
But
our
building
made
the
decision
to
submit
our
units
and
our
utilities
have
suddenly
and
mysteriously
spiked.
E
Some
people
have
been
getting
bills
that
are
double
and
triple
that
amount,
and
sometimes
our
bill
went
up
it
spiked
during
one
month
when
we
were
actually
out
of
town
for
half
the
time
and
finally
parking.
When
my
husband
and
I
first
got
into
Depot
square,
we
were
told
that
parking
would
be
a
free
amenity
included
with
our
rent.
Now
Depot
square
is
attached
above
an
RTD
bus
station,
and
there
most
of
the
building
is
actually
a
parking
garage
which
is
very
handy,
I,
love
being
above
the
bus
station.
E
But
when
we
moved
in,
they
told
us
it
would
no
longer
be
free
and
there
would
be
a
rent
associated
with
the
parking
space.
So
since
we
moved
in
we've
watched
it
go
from
$45
a
month
to
$75
a
month
and
now
ruie
and
I
are
paying
$90
a
month
just
to
park
our
car
in
this
garage.
We
managed
to
avoid
this
cost
for
two
years
by
parking
in
the
neighborhood
and
walking
home,
but
recently,
with
all
of
development,
that's
been
going
into
the
boulder
Junction
neighborhood.
E
F
G
G
The
increase
in
ami
only
reflects
that
we've
gained
a
bunch
of
rich
tech
employees
and
we've
seen
no
change
in
the
number
of
households
earning
less
than
a
hundred
thousand,
and
these
are
the
households
that
comprise
the
rental
market.
The
ami
based
index
has
been
unfair
for
as
long
as
wages
have
been
stagnant.
It's
not
a
new
phenomenon,
and
this
10.5
percent
increase
is
only
a
turn
for
the
worse.
G
These
hostile
neoliberal
policies
have
eroded
nearly
all
protections
for
working-class
renters
in
Boulder
and
in
Colorado,
and
while
many
of
the
affordable
housing
property
owners
will
tell
you
that
they
won't
raise
rent
by
the
maximum
amount
or
that
they'll
phase
it
in
over
time.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
they're
motivated
by
profit,
and
that's
just
what
they're
going
to
do
with
almost
no
laws
on
our
side.
There's
little
that
we
can
do
to
combat
this
rent
hike
but
move
away
or
make
dire
quality-of-life
sacrifices.
G
The
City
Council
has
an
obligation
to
its
constituents
to
this
issue
and
well
within
their
power
to
choose
a
better
index
and
I'm
sure
Rui
has
told
you
that
they
have
the
power
to
do
that
and
why
and
where
exactly
it's
chapter
4.14
in
the
parental
compliance
manual.
Ami
is
not
the
only
way
to
determine
maximum
rent.
It's
basic
algebra
to
calculate
a
better
index.
You
could
use
a
lower
decile,
for
instance,
and
those
of
us
who
are
not
fortunate
enough
to
own
homes
or
hold
high-paying
jobs.
We
don't
need
any
more
burdens.
G
The
City
Council
doesn't
take
initiative
and
protect
the
working
class.
There
soon
won't
be
a
working
class
left
in
Boulder.
Please
don't
price
us
out.
We
are
your
teachers,
your
nurses,
and
we
literally
build
and
maintain
the
infrastructure
in
this
city.
Who
is
going
to
do
that
when
we
can't
afford
to
live
here
anymore.
H
Yes,
so
several
of
us
are
very
interested
in
this
whole
discussion
around
ami
and
we
I
think
we
can
all
just
say
that
we're
very
interested
in
this
and
you're
looking
at
working
class
people
I'm
a
hairstylist
in
this
town,
so
I've
been
here
for
23
years,
I
understand
what
we're
talking
about.
We've
been
trying
to
explore
alternatives
to
the
ami
and
how
to
include
in
the
discussion
so
for
anybody
out
there.
That's
either
listening
or
watching
we're
open
to
hearing
that.
Well,.
G
I
mean
you
have
the
incomes
of
people
who
live
in
affordable
units,
so
you
could
just
take
the
median
of
that
that
rises
at
a
lower
rate
than
AMI.
So
why
not
use
it
or
if
you
want
to
use,
maybe
the
lowest
quintile
but
take
a
higher
percentage
so
that
you
get
rents
that
are
about
the
same.
That
will
also
rise
at
a
lower
rate
and
median
it's
a
skewed
distribution
so
taking
lower
percentile
rankings,
it's
just
better
math.
Thank.
G
I
Good
evening
so
I'll
introduce
Kristin
Heiser,
who
will
be
doing
the
the
presentation
on
the
Regional
Housing
Partnership
Kristin,
as
you
may
know,
is,
has
been
a
staff
member
of
the
division
of
housing
for
some
time,
and
she
has
taken
on
sort
of
a
new
role
in
leading
this
partnership,
which
represents
all
of
the
communities
in
Boulder
County.
It's
an
initiative
that
started
about
18
months
ago
and
really
was
launched
last
August
and
Kristin
is
the
first
staff
person
to
be
monnaie
to
working
on
this
plan
throughout
Boulder
County.
Thank
you.
Hi.
J
Good
evening,
thanks,
Kurt
I
am
Kristin
Heiser,
as
Curt
mentioned
I
do
where
to
housing.
Hats,
I'm,
the
community
investment
manager
with
a
division
of
housing.
I
will
be
returning
to
speak
to
you
in
August
about
the
work
of
the
community
investment
team
and
furthering
the
city's
goals
around
affordable
housing.
J
But
tonight
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
bowler
County
Regional
Housing
Partnership
before
I,
go
on
I'd
like
to
introduce
Pam
Gibson
who
is
while
I'm
the
manager
Pam
is
the
coordinator
who's
working
alongside
me
in
furthering
the
work
of
the
partnership,
and
forgive
me
as
I'm
kind
of
handle
figuring
out
the
technical
aspects
here,
but
so
I
don't
think.
Given
what
we
just
heard.
J
I,
don't
think
anybody
would
be
surprised
to
hear
that
affordability
is
really
the
most
pressing
housing
issue
across
the
nation
and
being
a
how
high
cost
high-growth
community
it
is
acutely
felt
here
in
Boulder.
I.
Think
we're
all
very
aware
of
that.
But
it's
not
just
in
Boulder
we're
experiencing
this
we're
experiencing
across
the
region
in
Longmont,
netherland
superior.
All
these
communities
have
been
struggling
to
meet
the
affordable
housing
needs
that
we
have
in
our
communities.
J
There
you
go,
but
before
we
get
into
the
details
about
the
partnership,
we
want
to
take
a
look
at
what's
going
on
across
the
region
and
I
again,
I,
don't
think
this
is
gonna,
be
news
to
anybody,
but
just
want
to
provide
some
context
as
to
what
we're
working
with
and
what
we're
what
we've
been
experiencing
for
quite
some
time.
The
Builder
region
is
currently
in
an
affordable
housing
crisis.
What
does
this
look
like?
We
have
increasing
housing
prices
and
rents
that
have
outpaced
growth
and
wages.
J
Land
construction
of
financing
costs
are
on
the
rise,
making
production,
affordable,
housing
more
financially,
challenging
we're
losing
existing,
affordable
housing,
the
supply
over
the
past
twelve
years
due
to
price
inflation.
We
have
lost
over
Stein
thousand
market
rate
rental
units
across
the
region,
as
well
as
over
21,000
ownership
opportunities
due
to
price
inflation.
J
The
percentage
of
older
and
wealthier
households
is
increasing
across
the
country
County,
while
the
number
of
family
middle
income
and
younger
individuals
is
declining.
Boulder
County
is
a
regional
employment
center
and
employees
are
commuting
longer
distances
between
their
homes
and
their
jobs,
and
this
is
adding
pressures
to
our
communities.
In
terms
of
transportation
and
the
environment,
towns
and
cities
are
becoming
increasingly
land
constrained,
placing
pressure
on
development
potential
and,
as
we've
heard
tonight,
and
as
we
hear
across
the
communities,
this
is
a
pressing
concern
for
our
communities
across
border
collie.
J
So
let's
take
a
little
bit
closer
look
into
some
of
these
details.
So
what
we're
finding
is
we'll
start
with
home
ownership
since
2010
the
median
home
price
in
the
city
of
Boulder
alone
and
we're
just
talking
about
Boulder.
Now
not
the
region
has
increased
by
60%
and
in
Longmont
long
thought
to
be.
The
affordable
community
in
the
county
has
jumped
76%
over
the
last
seven
years.
J
Add
to
that
50%
of
housing
stock
located
in
Boulder
municipalities.
This
was
crunched
yesterday
by
our
data
and
analytics
staff.
Member
is
our
value
at
at
above
six
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
dollars,
I
mean
that's
50%
of
our
housing
stock.
That's
that's
staggering
and
then,
if
you
look
at
our
once,
all
we've
seen
across
the
region
is
the
trajectory
of
friends
is
following
a
same
trajectory:
38
percent
of
the
county
residents
rent
on
the
city
of
Boulder.
J
We
do
see
a
52
percent
rental
rate,
but
across
the
county
we
see
38
percent
and
we've
seen
the
market
rate.
Friends
jump
20
percent
over
the
last
four
years.
That's
market
rate
rents
as
they're,
not
the
deed,
restricted,
affordable
rents,
but
that's
a
20
percent
jump
over
the
last
four
years
and
then
taking
a
little
bit
closer
look
into
what
it's.
The
experiences
like
for
renters
a
home
is
concerned,
affordable,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
talked
about
this.
J
An
affordable
home
is
considered
affordable
if
somebody's
not
paying
more
than
30%
of
their
income
on
housing,
expenses,
that's
rent
utilities
or
mortgage
and
utilities.
The
takeaway
from
this
slide
is
that
54%
of
the
renters
are
housing
costs
burden.
That
means
they're
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
annual
income,
their
to
pay
for
housing.
That
means
they're
having
making
very
difficult
choices
of
paying
for
housing
and
utilities
and
all
those
costs
instead
of
health
care
or
education
and
other
things
that
add
to
their
quality
of
life.
B
J
J
Recognizing
the
connection
between
housing,
jobs
and
transportation,
we
know
that
tens
of
thousand
thousands
of
people
commute
to
work
in
the
region
in
every
day
which
brings
environmental
and
health
impacts,
stressed
individuals
and
families.
Finding
solutions
to
linked
transit
and
housing
can
lead
to
providing
access
to
wider
job
markets,
takers
off
the
street
and
lead
to
decreased
housing
and
transportation
costs
that
will
support
self-sufficiency,
savings
and
spending
more
money
in
the
local
economy.
J
And
then,
if
we
take
a
look
at
this,
obviously
you
know
these
are
three
studies
that
have
been
conducted
over
the
last
few
years
in
long
Maude,
the
city
of
Boulder,
as
well
as
part
of
the
Boulder
County
vaunt
Comprehensive,
Plan
and
obviously
the
community
is
very
concerned
about
the
lack
of
affordable
housing
options.
So
each
of
those,
whether
it's
housing,
affordability,
is
getting
worse.
Affordable,
housing
options
are
few
or
affordable
housing
as
a
top
priority.
J
We're
hearing
it
from
our
communities
that
that
it
is
a
an
issue
that
we
have
got
to
address
when
you
have
to
address
it
quickly,
so
just
to
clarify
who
we're
talking
about
so,
let's
start
with
Kate
and
Joe.
So
Kate
is
works
in
retail
and
Joe
is
a
new
teacher
combined.
They
make
over
58,000
to
support
their
family
of
three.
J
According
to
the
2018
area,
median
income,
King
Joe
earned
60%
of
area
median
income,
so
58,000
qualifies
as
60%
areum
ami
for
a
family
of
three
Kate
and
Joe
are
earning
the
maximum
amount
eligible
to
qualify
for
the
limited
deed,
restricted
units
in
the
region.
And
now,
if
you
look
at
Marcus
and
Maria
Marcus
is
a
warehouse
manager.
Maria's
works
in
childcare.
Together
they
earn
just
over
eighty
six
thousand
or
80
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income
earning
eighty
percent
of
area
median
income.
J
They
are
overqualified
or
they're
ineligible
for
the
rental
units
that
are
available
in
our
deed,
restricted
properties.
In
terms
of
their
you
know,
those
are
requiring
60%
ami.
They
earned
too
much
of
to
achieve
housing
in
Housing
Authority
property
for,
for
example,
but
what
they
could
they
could
be
eligible
to
rent
a
deed,
restricted
I
mean
they
could
be
eligible
for
a
homeownership
opportunity.
But
if
you
take
that
one
step
further
and
you
look
at
round
numbers
market
markets,
Maria
could
qualify
to
purchase
a
home
about
300,000.
J
So
using
a
quick
search
of
Zillow.
Yesterday,
I
was
able
to
identify
across
the
county
there's
27
single-family
homes
for
sale
under
300,000,
and
none
of
those
are
located
in
the
city
of
Boulder.
So
they
would
not
be
able
to
find
a
single-family
home
in
Boulder
at
this
time
and
then
you
look
at
the
townhomes
or
the
condos
for
sale
on
Boulder
26
are
listed,
not
bad,
but
80%
of
those
are
less
than
a
thousand
square
feet,
a
thousand
square
for
you
for
a
family
of
four.
J
J
J
So
this
is
a
video
that
the
Builder,
how
the
Bolar
county
regional
partnership
put
together
to
just
to
you
know
what
are
the
initiatives
that
we
want
to
pursue
as
a
marketing
campaign
to
change
the
perspective
raise
awareness
advocate
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
this
PSA
for
lack
of
a
better
term
was
produced
by
the
partnership.
This
past
year.
K
M
A
N
Great
things
together,
we
have
responded
to
disasters
like
wildfires
in
the
2013
flood,
we
have
protected
our
incredible
open
space
heritage.
Together
we
have
made
our
businesses
in
our
homes
more
environmentally
sustainable.
We
are
on
the
cutting
edge
of
so
many
things
working
together
and
now
it's
our
time
to
rise
to
meet
this
next
great
challenge
and
I'm.
Sure
a
lot
of
you
have
the
same
experience
that
I
have
where
you
have
constituents.
Stop
you
on
the
street
and
say:
are
you
guys
doing
anything
about
affordable
housing
and
is
it
even
solvable?
N
J
So
to
answer
this
call
to
really
move
the
needle
on
affordability.
We
must
recognize
that
housing
markets
are
regional
and
to
make
an
impact
in
our
communities.
We
must
work
together
across
jurisdictional
boundaries,
leveraging
our
commitment,
expertise
and
resources.
Only
through
shared
vision
in
action
can
we
deliver
the
housing
needed
in
our
own
backyards
and
we
believe
that
Boulder
County,
Regional,
Housing
Partnership
will
take
us
there,
which
you'll
see
in
front
of
you
is
I,
did
give
you
each
strategies
and
for
those
and
on
TV
or
watching
on
TV
or
the
public
in
the
audience.
O
J
Fortunately,
unlike
a
lot
of
communities,
Boulder
County
has
a
long
history.
The
jurisdictions
and
towns
and
municipalities
have
a
long
history
of
prioritizing
and
making
strong
investments
in
affordable
housing.
We
we
live
in
a
very
compassionate
community
and
so
we're
very
fortunate,
because
we
have
that
on
our
side.
J
We
also
have
a
rich
history
and
partnering
in
collaboration
and
that's
what
this
group
is
really
building
on
we're
building
on
the
foundation
that
we
have
where
we've
worked
together
to
achieve
a
lot
of
great
things,
and
these
are
just
some
of
the
examples
we
have
the
10-year
plan
to
address
homelessness.
That's
now
evolved
into
the
Boulder
County
Regional
homelessness
strategy.
Hopefully,
you've
been
seeing
in
the
paper
all
the
great
stories
that
are
coming
out
of
the
work
that
this
collaborative
effort
is
bringing
to
fruition.
J
And
finally,
we
had
the
flood
recovery
work
following
the
2013
floods
and
that's
where
we
really
saw
the
partnership
korat
of
that
the
2013
flood
recovery
efforts
to
us
a
lot
and
lay
the
foundation
for
the
regional,
her
Regional
Housing
Partnership
following
the
flood.
A
group
was
convened
of
housing
professionals
and
development
partners
and
advocates
to
assess
the
need
and
to
determine
how
we
were
going
to
deploy
the
resources
needed
to
address
the
housing
need
that
resulted
from
the
floods.
J
Over
the
last
18
months
to
two
years,
we
worked
together
to
develop
the
strategy
that
she
in
front
of
you
and
that's
available
on
the
website,
and
we
identified
five
goals.
The
first
goal,
because
learning
from
what
we
had
seen
from
the
flood,
we
had
to
identify
a
number.
We
want
back
when
the
flood
happened.
A
few
of
our
leaders
said
we
went
a
thousand
units.
J
J
We
also
one
of
the
bolster
financial
resources
to
achieve
that
goal
securely
in
a
redevelopment
opportunities
for
future
housing,
preserve
affordability
of
existing
housing
and
align
regulatory
processes
with
our
housing
goals.
So
the
wind
of
the
strategy
is
written.
It's
really
seen
it's
intended
to
be
a
menu
of
options.
We
recognize
that
every
community
is
very
different.
J
The
affordable
housing
needs
and
superior
look
very
different
from
what
you
see
in
Jamestown
from
what
you
see
a
long
one
for
once,
you
see
in
the
city
of
Boulder
from
what
you
see
in
the
county,
and
so
the
way
that
the
strategy
is
developed
is
that
under
each
of
these
items
is
there's
a
menu
of
options,
some
of
them,
some
groups
are
already
doing.
You
know
there
might
be
an
option
under
bolster
financial
resources,
and
you
have
a
community
that
already
is
in
using
a
commercial
linkage
fee
where
another
one
isn't.
J
But
then
another
group
has
aligned
their
regulatory
processes
to
fill
silt
eight,
affordable
housing
development,
and
so
we
really
are
using
this
as
a
tool
for
communities
to
assess
their
needs.
Their
concerns.
What
their
community
wants
and
use
this
as
a
guide
and
then
we're
also
going
to
be
employing
is
advisory
services,
where
communities
that
have
been
successful
in
one
tactic
or
another
would
be
willing
to
provide
services
or
technical
assistance
to
other
communities.
To
say,
hey
you
want
to
you
know
you
want
to
look
at
your
regulatory
processes.
J
J
So
there's
already
numerous
examples
again.
Unlike
most
communities
Boulder
the
region
is
unique
and
that
allowed
us
already
have
a
10%
coal.
The
city
of
Boulder
has
a
10%
goal
word.
Yet
7.5
percent
towards
our
goal,
as
well
as
Lyons,
has
a
10
percent
goal.
Longmont
has
a
10
percent
goal
and
within
each
of
those
goals
they
have
there's
nuances.
You
know
some
are
10%
at
60%
ami
others
might
be
10%
for
this
amount
for
ownership,
or
this
amount
for
rental.
J
And
so,
if
you
look
at
that
right
now,
we
currently
have
6,000,
affordable
housing
units
in
the
boulder
across
the
region.
That
includes
ownership
includes
rental.
That
includes
tax
credit
properties.
It's
a
variety
of
options.
We
believe
by
2035.
We
need
to
bring
12,000
units
online
as
deed,
restricted,
permanently
affordable
units
to
serve
the
needs,
and
that
and
that's
not
going
to
even
meet
all
the
needs,
but
it's
going
to
make
a
difference,
but
that
12%
results
we
got
12,000
would
lead
to
18,000.
J
J
Now
we're
looking
at
it
it's
it's
a
low
to
moderate
income,
so
60%
for
rental,
a
little
higher
for
ownership,
but
then
it
also
includes
middle
income.
So
different
communities
are
looking
at
it,
for
so
it
may
vary.
We
didn't
really
land
on
specific
numbers
for
each
of
the
a.m.
eyes,
but
it
is
intended
to
go
up
to
middle-income
anything,
okay
and
within
that
mix
of
12,000
units.
We
see
that
as
we
want
new
construction
as
well
as
acquisition
preservation.
So
knowing
that
we
are
constrained
land
constrained,
we
can't
go
up.
J
We
can't
go
out
in
a
lot
of
our
communities
that
new
construction
opportunities
are
limited,
so
we
are
looking
at
300
a
year,
ideally
for
to
bring
on
4500
new
units
and
then
using
resources
made
available
through
our
partnership
and
through
financial
capital
that
we'll
be
talking
on
a
second
to
acquire
and
preserve
existing
units
that
are
not
already
preserved
as
permantly
affordable.
So
it's
intended
to
be
a
mix
of
rental
and
ownership.
New
construction
and
preservation.
B
J
So
our
strongest
recommendation
kind
of
stepping
back
for
a
second.
You
know
we
have
the
five
strategies
that
we're
pursuing
the
one
strategy
with
the
goal
is
we
are
asking
that
all
the
communities
get
behind
a
countywide
goal.
12%
some
communities
are
looking
at
adopting
that
goal
for
themselves.
For
example,
Boulder
we'll
be
talking
about
that
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
about.
If
that's
something
that
we
want
to
bring
forward
a
Boulder,
but
our
strong,
a
strategy
that
is
going
to
be
required
to
make
this
happen
is
bolstering
our
financial
resources.
J
The
creation
of
housing
in
general
is
expensive
and
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
is
even
more
expensive
because
it
requires
subsidy,
that's
not
always
available.
So
currently,
approximately
15
million
dollars
is
available
across
the
region
to
bring
about
housing
opportunities.
We
see
that
that
is,
brings
about
300
units
across
the
region
as
right
now,
but
we
if
we
want
to
hit
the
12
by
35
goal
that
we're
discussing
the
12%
12,000
units
by
2035.
B
B
J
Okay,
so
how
are
we
gonna
raise
25
million
in
addition
to
our
15
million?
That's
a
big
question.
So
the
way
that
we
would
like
to
do
is
to
structure
our
regional,
a
region-wide,
affordable
housing,
trust
fund.
This
would
be
something
that
you
know,
while
the
mechanics
of
it
and
how
it
would
be
program
have
yet
to
be
determined.
But
essentially
we
would
see
this
as
a
fund
that
would
be
available
to
communities
and
partners
throughout
the
region
to
access
to
to
bring
about
housing
opportunities.
J
The
way
that
we
all
fund
projects
now
is
we
we
will
bring
in
our
you
know
local
subsidy
and
then
it's
used
to
leverage
tax
credits,
our
private
activity,
bonds,
and
so
these
funds
would
ideally
be
used
to
leverage
outside
resources
into
the
communities.
So
right
now,
for
example
in
the
city
of
Boulder,
we're
finding
that
every
dollar
that
we
put
in
leverage
is
about
three
to
five
dollars.
J
So
if
we
are
aiming
to
bring
our
financial
sources
increase
it
by
25
million,
you
know
that
could
eventually
leveraged
75
to
100
million
dollars
across
the
region,
so
that
that's
kind
of
the
model
that
we're
pursuing,
but
the
way
that
we
would
capitalize
this
fund
is.
We
do
need
the
support
of
the
public.
We
need
to
pursue
potential
ballot
initiatives
that
would
be
looking
at
increasing
sales
and
property
taxes
to
support
the
goals,
extend
and
increase
the
worthy
cause
program
that
the
county
currently
has
and
have
it.
J
So
it's
dedicating
more
of
its
funds
to
affordable
housing,
looking
at
reviewing
occupation,
how
hotel
tax
and
then
the
real
estate
transfer
tax,
which
does
require
some
state
action.
But
it
is
something
across
the
state
that
other
jurisdictions
are
looking
at
if
we
were
able
to
across
the
region,
build
the
support
and,
along
with
our
other
partners
across
the
Front
Range,
be
able
to
take
some
state
action.
J
We
might
be
able
to
generate
funds
as
a
result
of
enacting
a
real
estate,
real
estate
transfer
tax
and
then,
finally,
in
some
of
our
communities,
were
already
implementing
local
commercial
linkage
fees.
We
would
be
looking
at
using
that
as
well
if
commute
shows,
so
those
are
really
the
big
doozies
of
the
goals
is
that
12%
and
bolstering
resources?
But
this
is
what
we
needs
the
money
for
I
mean
at
the
end
the
day.
J
We
need
money
to
do
this,
but
we
would
use
it
to
secure
land
and
redevelopment
opportunities
for
future
housing
and
preserve
affordability
of
existing
housing.
Looking
at
securing
land
and
redevelopment
opportunities,
the
way
that
we
would
do
that
is,
identify
publicly
owned
vacant
and
underutilized
land
and
designate
them
for
affordable
housing
development.
We
could
secure
new
land
through
acquisitions
and
donations,
identify
sites
designated
as
business,
commercial,
industrial
and
public
and
rezone
to
allow
or
designate
for
affordable
housing
development.
J
We
could
prioritize
deed,
restricted,
residential
units
and
annexation
agreements.
Those
are
all
tactics
we've
used
across
the
region
already
and
of
to
varying
degrees
of
success,
but
you
could
expand
that
an
example.
You
see
a
picture
here
of
Lafayette,
that's
the
Lafayette
Flatirons
parcel
the
city
of
Lafayette
partnered,
with
Boulder
County
and
the
Boulder
County
Housing
Authority
to
purchase
24
acres
of
land
in
East
Lafayette
from
Flatirons
church.
J
For
the
purpose
of
affordable
housing-
and
there
was
a
interesting
article
in
the
paper
this
weekend
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
with
the
community
to
define
what
the
best
programming
and
what
the
end
uses
will
be
at
that
site
in
terms
of
the
number
of
housing,
the
type
of
housing
he'll
be
designed
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
there's
a
real
rich
opportunities
out
there
to
work
with
communities
to
bring
about
bring
additional
units
into
to
meet
the
need
and
then
finally,
preserving
not
finally,
but
preserving
existing
affordable
and
marketed
paintable
housing.
J
We
can
acquire
indeed
restrict
existing
housing
units.
We
can
acquire
existing
unit
it
just
wouldn't
you
do
that.
It's
a
it's
a
very
smart
way
to
go
about
because
you're,
it's
a
very
green
approach
and
that
you're
acquiring
existing
buildings
you're
not
building
new,
it's
less.
It
maintains
the
neighborhood
balance
and
dynamic
and
character,
and
sometimes
not
always
it
can
be
less
expensive
so
to
be
able
to
buy
existing
units.
It's
one
way
to
go
about
that.
The
other
picture
there
is.
J
J
This
might
look
like
adopting
staff-level
reviews,
fee
reductions
of
waivers
density
increases
requiring
annexations
to
include
affordable
housing,
expediting
entitlements
for
affordable
housing
units,
there's
a
whole
menu
of
options
that
we
see
deployed
across
the
country
that
we
could
look
at
our
current
regulatory
practices
to
see.
There's
ways
for
us
to
facilitate
the
creation
of
more
units
and
in
fact,
as
Longmont
last
year,
kind
of
took
the
lead
on
this
and
they
looked
at
their
practices
and
they
made
some
changes
in
their
regulatory
environment.
They
adopted
the
10%
goal,
they
were
view.
J
They
changed
the
regulations
and
policies
that
were
hindering
affordable
housing
creation.
They
are
now
allowing
affordable
housing
development
by
right.
So
it's
moves
through
quickly
and
they
have
expedited.
There
were
a
few
process,
they're
also
providing
density
height
bonuses,
so
not
to
say
that
that's
something
that
we
have
to
do
here
in
Boulder
or
every
other
community,
but
that
there's
just
a
lot
of
creative
ways
to
get
to
this
solution.
J
So
those
presents
the
strategy.
We
had
this
opportunity
to
take
this
to
our
elected
officials.
Back
in
September,
we
had
the
first
affordable
housing
summit.
We
convened
a
group
of
75
elected
officials
from
across
Boulder
County.
It
also
included
staff
members
from
planning,
Health
and
Human
Services,
as
well
as
members
of
the
public
they
reviewed
and
discussed
and
informed
the
regional
housing
strategy.
There.
J
So
since
September
so
September
we
had
the
summit.
Then
we,
you
know
the
end
of
the
year-
was
communities
adopting
the
resolution,
City
Council's
and
boards
and
commissions
we're
looking
at
the
adopting
in
so
we
were
able
to
do
some
quick
work
and
finished
up
the
year
with
those
nine
resolutions.
Now
what
we're
at
is.
We
spent
the
first
part
this
year
figuring
out
the
staffing
and
resourcing
of
this
effort,
and
then
back
in
June.
We
were
able
to
bring
myself
and
Pam
on
board
to
staff.
It
we've
actually
also
have
several
support.
J
J
We
have
a
website
that
will
have
the
website
up
in
a
second,
but
we
are
releasing
that
it's
meant
to
be
a
very
interactive,
communicative
way
of
reaching
our
communities
and
our
partners
to
bring
about
affordable
housing
opportunities.
We
are
developing
in
an
intergovernmental
agreement
to
govern
the
work
of
the
partnership.
We
will
be
hosting
a
planner
symposium.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
from
planning
staff
is
that
they
want
more
information
about
what
is
affordable
housing.
How
does
it
work?
J
How
does
affordable
housing
financing
work,
and
so
we're
gonna
be
hosting
a
planner
symposium
to
could
have
dual
affordable
housing,
affordable
housing,
finance,
101
and
then
we'll
be
talking
about
all
the
committees
in
a
second
in
the
structure,
but
we're
currently
seating.
The
committee's
we're
also
doing
a
lot
of
work
across
the
community
across
the
region
and
just
ongoing
collaboration.
We
we
have
an
existing
pipeline
meeting,
but
we
are
now
under
the
partnership.
We
are
hosting
a
biannual
twice
a
year.
We
meet
all
development
partner,
cities,
staff
chafa
and
joins
us.
J
You
know
we
do
want
to
establish
a
marketing
campaign.
You
saw
our
first
video
that's
been
released.
We
have
a
newsletter
that
will
be
going
out
monthly.
We
have
a
website
that
is
intended
to
be
very
resourceful,
we'll
be
working
on
our
financing
resource
development
that
might
be
starting
to
nurture
the
idea
of
a
ballot
initiative
and
what
that
might
look
like
we're
competing
our
committees
and
groups.
We
have
the
advisory
services
collaboration,
research
on
and
on
so
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on.
J
We
also
will
be
measuring
our
success.
Here's
a
few
of
the
indicators
I
will
be
using
what
you
see
in
front
of
you.
There
is
also
we've
developed
a
dashboard
they'll,
be
tracking
our
progress
and
success
across
the
county,
but
then
we'll
also
be
providing
this
and
preparing
this
for
each
of
our
jurisdictional
partners
and
here's
the
structure.
So
we
have
an
Operations
team
which
includes
myself
Pam.
As
a
coordinator,
we
have
communications
staff,
that's
been
dedicated
by
the
county.
J
We
have
a
data
analytics
person
as
we
develop
and
grow
we'll
be
seeing
other
jurisdictions
providing
support
to
this
group
as
in-kind
contributions.
We
are
being
guided
by
a
steering
committee
that
air
parties
to
the
IGA
the
as
of
right
now
those
are
include
the
city
of
Boulder
Boulder
County
in
Longmont,
because
they
are
financial
contributors
to
this
effort.
We
also
will
be
having
to
advise
it
well,
we'll
have
an
advisory
committee
and
then
two
subcommittees
I'll
be
doing
the
work
of
the
strategies.
J
We
also
the
developing
a
group
of
partner
partnership
champions,
which
are
our
elected
officials
they'll,
help
us
further
the
goals
of
the
strategy
and
partnership
and
then,
finally,
a
housing
interest
group
that
is
gonna
be
made
up
of
local
leaders,
advocates
development
partners
in
general
public,
just
in
a
little
bit
more
didn't
just
briefly.
The
stern
committees
gonna
govern
the
strategic
and
operational
direction.
J
The
advisory
committee
will
advise
the
strategic
directions
where
we
see
sitting
on
that
is.
Each
of
the
communities
will
have
a
representative
and
an
alternate
that
I'd
be
sitting
on
that
committee
to
advise
the
direction
of
the
work
we'll
have
subcommittees
that
are
actually
doing
the
research
promoting
and
helping
implement
strategies.
The
champions
will
be
elected
officials
that
are
helping
advocate
and
bringing
their
leadership
to
further
the
goals.
The
strategy,
the
interest
group,
will
inform
and
influence
the
work
of
the
Builder
County
Regional
Housing
Partnership,
and
then
finally,
we
have
our
operations
team.
J
F
Any
other
yeah
more
of
a
comment.
Actually,
so
it
seems
when
you
chose
the
12
percent
number
the
piece
that
was
missing
there
was
we
didn't
actually
look
at
the
total
types
of
jobs
in
our
community,
the
total
wages
that
those
people
earn
and
then
go
from
there
as
to
how
you
know
what
percentage
of
our
housing
stock
actually
needs
to
be
permanently
affordable
in
order
to
support
the
types
of
jobs
that
we
have
in
every
community.
Is
there
any
reason
why
that
sort
of
wasn't
the
focus.
J
Well,
taken
sir
I
think
I'll
take
a
stab,
I
think
hurt
congestion,
but
we
did
last
year
when
we
were
doing
this
work.
We
did
hire
a
consultant
that
did
a
lot
of
the
number
crunching
for
us
and
she
did
look
at
population
per
spec
projections.
She
looked
at
kind
of
build-out
projections
and
things
of
that
sort.
She
did
have
access
to
and
reviewed.
You
know
all
of
us
have
done
studies
of
varying
kinds.
J
We
recently
hired
consultants
to
do
the
commercial
linkage
fee
and
they
did
look
at
that
job,
housing
balance
and
some
of
that
influenced
the
the
goal-setting.
If
we
wanted
to
dive
into
that
another
time,
I'm
not
prepared
to
go
into
too
much
detail
about
that
right
now,
but
we
could
come
back
and
kind
of
dissect
that
number
a
little
bit
closer.
If
that
would
be
helpful
to
you,
yeah.
F
B
There
was
an
article
in
The
Economist
a
couple
of
months
ago
about
a
lot
of
states
and
local
jurisdictions
are
going
to
be
facing
headwinds
budgetary
headwinds
with
regard
to
expected
decline
in
sales
tax,
and
so,
as
we
look
at
revenue
sources
to
fund
this
property,
the
two
options
currently
available
to
us
are
property
tax
and
sales
tax.
What
kind
of
consideration
has
been
paid
to
sort
of
the
declining
future
of
sales
tax
for
budget
support?
B
J
Definitely
been
part
of
the
conversation
as
we've
discussed
these
strategies.
We
are
just
at
the
beginning
of
these
conversations,
so
I
think
there'll
be
plenty
of
time
where,
and
you
know
we
do
intend
to
bring
in
different
expertise
to
help
inform
those
discussions
and
what
is
the
most,
you
know
feasible
way
to
pursue
this
and
how
to
be
bit
forward.
So
I
think
I
think
you're
asking
the
right
questions.
We're
gonna
start
diving
in
to
pretty
quickly
and.
B
So
a
related
into
that
is
of
course
right
now,
you're,
looking
at
what's
currently
available
to
us,
but
as
the
partnership
also
considering
lobbying
at
the
state
level
to
change
Tabor.
So
there
are
other
options
that
are
available
like
a
real
estate,
transfer,
tax
or
even
luxury
home
tax,
and
things
of
that
nature.
That.
J
Is
something
we've
discussed
we
haven't
and
we've
we've
actually
had
conversations
with
our
regional
partners.
We've
engaged
with
across
the
metro
area
with
denver
westminster
long
months,
part
of
this
too,
but
there's
a
lot
of
momentum
right
now
to
organize
in
that
direction
and
I
think
this
is
the
perfect
vehicle
to
help
us
kind
of
bring
our
local
partners
together
to
build
up
that
momentum
here
in
our
county.
So
here
yes
and.
B
Then
my
last
question
is
the
twenty
five
million
dollar
we'll
call
it
seed
money
that
you're
looking
at
that,
ostensibly
a
sales
tax
or
the
real
estate
tax
would
fund
is
that
is
that
debt
service
on
a
bond,
or
is
that
just
direct
money
in
money
out
kind
of
financial
maneuver?
And
so,
if
it's
money
in
money
out
I
was
wonder
if
the
partnership
has
discussed
a
more
ambitious
approach
to
actually
sell
instruments
on
the
financial
markets
that
then
the
taxes
could
support
the
debt
service.
Work
I
mean.
J
I
think
our
current
practices
are
money
and
money
out,
but
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
with
us
collaborating
and
convening
the
expertise
that's
available
across
the
county,
that
we
would
be
able
to
evolve
and
look
at
these
more
sophisticated
tools.
I
think
the
beauty
of
a
housing
trust
fund
is
that
it's
it's
it's
designed
to
continue
to
generate
funding.
Mm-Hmm.
A
B
I
If
I
could
just
added
the
the
structure
actually
works
that
way,
but
in
a
slightly
different
approach.
So,
as
Kristen
mentioned
earlier,
that
25
million
would
be
leveraged
by
three
to
five
times
as
much
sort
of
bond
money
that
comes
in
at
you
know
very
competitive
rates,
because
it
is,
you
know,
light
tech
funding.
So
it's
it's
a
very
efficient
way
to
bring
large
resources
to
the
to
the
issue.
So
it's
not
just
a
25
million
amount
that
right
you
shouldn't
be
looking
at.
J
We're
not
actually
it's
been
a
really
amazing
collaborative
experience.
As
a
result
of
the
floods,
we
had
all
gun,
pretty
used
to
working
together
and
enjoying
and
seeing
the
power
of
working
together,
and
so
every
meeting
has
had
you
know
between
10
to
15
people
from
jurisdictions
across
the
region
working
together,
so
it
it
did
so
happen
that
it
kind
of
fit
with
some
of
the
work
that
I
was
already
doing.
J
So
it
was
kind
of
a
natural
fit
for
myself
and
Pam
to
step
into
this
role,
because
we
had
been
a
part
of
it
all
along
as
well
as
just
we
also
have
a
regional
reach
at
this
point
because
of
our
work
with
the
home
consortium,
so
it
just
was
kind
of
a
natural
fit,
so
I
wouldn't
say
we're
driving
it.
We're
definitely
excited
be
a
part
of
it.
But
when
we're
out
in
the
cup
today,
we
went
and
visited
superior,
we're
very
clear,
like
today
we're
here
as
regional
partnership.
J
H
J
J
Essentially,
that's
gonna
be
working
with
a
working
with
us
to
inform
and
influence
the
partnership
and
the
implementation
of
the
strategy.
We
expect
it
to
me
by
annually
or
as
needed
and
we're
looking
at
those
as
local
leaders,
elected
officials
who
or
agency
representative
housing
partners,
whether
it's
our
development
providers,
our
development
partners,
service
providers,
advocates
members
of
the
public
and
event.
Essentially
what
they'll
be
doing
is
reviewing
the
ideas
vetting
the
ideas
really
helping
guide
the
direction
of
the
work
so.
B
We
actually
have
a
subcommittee
that
we
have
formed
okay
but
housing
meghna.
That's
what
I
contacted
you
too
about
a
few
weeks
ago
and
unless
other
members
want
to
be
on
that
subcommittee,
I
would
expect
that
it
would
be
one
or
the
other
of
us
that
would
attend
these
meetings.
Does
that
make
sense
to
folks
yeah.
H
I
mean
originally
I,
wasn't
interested
in
it,
but
like
now
watching
all
of
this
I'm
interested
in
it
so
I
I
personally,
would
like
to
you
know,
as
we
kind
of
flesh
out
the
community
of
the
committee's
and
really
look
at
what
we're,
when
we
sign
kind
of
roles
on
all
those
other
things
that
we
were
talking
about
initiatives
as
well,
but
it's
really
hard
because
I
get
interested
in
all
this.
And
how
do
you
divide
it
up
and
really
pay
attention,
but
yes,
I'm
interested
too
okay.
Great.
Thank
you.
J
Unless
I
just
want
to
introduce
an
idea,
I
we're
not
really
in
a
position
to
discuss
this
at
much
depth,
but
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
bring
to
the
housing
advisory
board
that
we
would
like
to
explore
over
the
next
few
months
before
possibly
making
a
recommendation
to
City
Council
is
the
consideration
of
adopting
a
12%
goal
for
the
city
of
Boulder.
Last
year,
City
Council
did
adopt
a
resolution
supporting
the
12%
of
goal
countywide,
you
know,
but,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
currently
have
the
10%
coal.
J
Where
we're
pretty
close
to
meeting
that
goal,
we
were
at
7.5.
We
expect,
with
our
current
pipeline
and
development
opportunities
that
were
aware
of
that.
We're
gonna
hit
the
10%
goal
in
three
to
five
years,
which
is
wonderful,
but
it's
not
enough.
There's
still
a
great
need.
So
what
we
would
like
to
explore
with
you
over
the
next
few
months
is,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
increase
the
goal
to
12%
for
the
city
of
Boulder,
and
so
essentially
that
would
take
us
look
at
these
numbers
really
quick.
J
We
would
need
an
additional
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
seven
affordable
units
to
hit
12%
by
2035,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
idea
out.
There
I
think
there's
more
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
to
really
understand
the
numbers
and
understand
the
impact
that
that
would
have
on
Boulder
and
how
we
would
do
that.
J
But
you
know
looking
at
the
pace
of
production
that
we
have
right
now
and
the
partners
we
have
very
sophisticated,
very
successful
partners
and
so
I
think
to
raise
it
to
12%
by
2035
is
very
doable
for
our
community
so
and
with
that
and
here's
the
website
for
everybody,
its
www
housing,
our
community
org
and
there
you'll
find
all
sorts
of
information,
its
evolving
we're
currently
kind
of
redesigning
it
and
relaunching
it
and
there
we
do
have
some
extra
copies
of
the
strategy.
The
strategy
is
online.
J
O
J
B
I
I
I
Some
of
the
numbers
from
the
from
Depot
Square
mentioned-
this
has
been
a
topic
for
a
couple
of
months
now
and
at
our
have
meeting
I
think
to
have
meetings
ago.
You
asked
that
we,
you
receive
an
update
on
this,
so
this
is
basically
what
it
is.
It's
it's
not
a
deep
dive
into
the
issue.
It
is
an
update
to
give
you
further
information
as.
I
I
mentioned
to
Leonard,
you
know,
prior
to
the
meeting
today,
City
Council
is
also
asked
for
a
memo
or
informational
packet,
which
I
sent
a
draft
of
this
afternoon.
We
will
be
sending
that
to
City
Council
tomorrow,
so
that
the
timing
of
this
is
actually
quite
good
and
we
will
take
you
know
any
feedback
or
input
that
you
have
this
evening,
and
you
know
summarize
that
into
the
into
the
IP
which
goes
out
to
them
tomorrow,
it
doesn't
actually
go
to
them
tomorrow,
but
gets
into
the
process
to
go
to
them.
A
A
I
I
So
the
current
process
is
determine
the
affordable
rents
is
based
on
the
industry
standards
which,
as
you
know,
is
the
is
the
ami
with
two
primary
objectives.
One
is
to
create
affordable
housing
for
residents
in
the
city,
and
the
other
is
to
ensure
that
the
properties
are
maintained,
that
they're,
financially
sustainable.
I
So
if,
if
the
median
income
is
$100,000,
since
someone
makes
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
four
hundred
thousand
and
five
dollars,
if
someone
moves
in
that
makes
three
million
dollars
a
year,
you
meaning
income
would
go
up
to
that.
One
hundred
and
thousand
and
five
it
just
goes
up.
You
know
the
next,
the
next
person
there
in
the
middle,
so
the
meeting
is
much
different
than
the
average,
so
just
wanted
to
clarify
that,
so
that
wasn't
confusing
for
people
this
is
set
by
by
HUD.
It's
based
on
the
the
survey.
I
I
So
these
are
the
chafa.
This
is
the
chat
for
rent
table
or
a
portion
of
the
chaff,
a
rent
table
for
for
this
for
2018.
So
you
can
see
the
the
60%
rents
in
there
for
different
sized
units
and
then
you
can
see
the
30%
rents,
there's
also
categories
at
at
40
and
50%,
and
the
other
thing
that's
worth
noting
is
we
have
we've
created
different
ami
units
within
our
within
the
whole
portfolio
within
this
city.
I
Many
of
the
properties
we'll
have
some
of
the
units
at
60,
some
at
50,
some
at
30
and
then
they're
required.
Then
they
could
even
be
the
same
size
unit.
They
could
all
be.
You
know:
650
square
foot,
one-bedroom
you
it's
but
they're
at
different
a.m.
eyes,
and
so
then
they're
required
to
rent
to
people
who
fit.
You
know
those
categories.
I
It
also
had
a
it
was
also
related
to
their
income
incomes
change
during
the
year,
and
so
it
became
an
individual
is
essentially
an
individual
calculation
for
for
every
household
who
lives
in
informal
housing
projects
at
the
time
that
this
was
initiated.
It
start
with
one
project
that
had
I
can't
remember:
it
was
like
24
units
or
something,
so
it
wasn't
at
that
at
the
time
that
it
was
designed,
it
wasn't
really
designed
for
scale.
I
There
was
high
administrative
burdens
both
on
the
city
to
kind
of
oversee
that
and
ensure
that
they're
doing
it
according
to
the
the
policies,
and
then
there
was
a
high
burden
on
all
the
property
owners.
They
don't
ease,
affordable
units.
The
other
thing
that
came
along
shortly
after
that
within
the
city
of
Boulder
was
low-income
housing
tax
credit
funds,
which
essentially
fund
almost
well
a
high
majority
of
the
affordable
housing
rental
units
across
the
United,
States
and
lytec
is
actually
connected
to
ami.
C
I
The
the
low-income
housing
tax
credits
so
in
the
way
they
they
start
off,
so
that's
the
financing
for
the
low-income
property
and
one
and
it's
all.
The
rules
of
lytec
are
based
in
the
IRS
regulations
and
that's
required
to
be
set
to
the
ami
of
the
units,
and
so
that's
why,
broadly
you
know
across
the
country,
rental
pricing
has
sort
of
aligned
with
that
or
one
of
the
reasons.
I
B
I
I
So
it
depends
on
the
type
of
funding
you're,
getting
the
type
of
project
that
you're
doing.
If
most
projects
like
tech
projects
are
tied
to
60%
ami
as
the
city,
sometimes
we
will
put
additional
funds
into
a
property
to
try
to
buy
down
some
of
the
units
into
lower
am
ice
when
we
have
the
resources
to
do
that
and
where
it
makes
sense.
A
different
example:
I
could
give
would
be
attention
homes
where
they
got
a
different
type
of
light
tech
funding.
I
They
got
a
9%
light
tech
funding
and
that
enables
them
and
and
the
covenants
will
reflect
this
a
very
low.
Those
are
below
30%
am
eyes,
and
that
will
be
in
perpetuity.
So
most
of
the
time
they
are
sixty
percent
and
there's,
depending
on
the
type
of
project
you
can
get
others
as
well.
Yep.
Okay,
thanks.
I
So
this
is
just
sort
of
a
summary
of
Depot
Square
and
this
represents
both
the
rents
and
the
maximum
rents.
So
the
maximum
rents
represent
the
the
the
the
chafa
or
am
you
know,
as
used
to
compare
to
the
ami?
So
those
are
the
chat
for
rents,
so
you
can
see
that
percent
in
chafa
the
first
year
it
went
down.
I
Did
not
and
the
reason
for
that
again
is
it's
because
it's
funded
through
lytec
and
it's
a
little
bit
like
if
you
have
a
mortgage
on
your
house
and
your
income
comes
goes
down.
You
can't
call
up
your
bank
and
say
for
the
next
year.
Can
you
lower
my
mortgage
so
they
have
a
set
mortgage,
so
they
could
have
done
it
maybe
ten
years
from
now,
if
they
had
the
same
situation,
if
they
wanted
to
do
that.
I
Typically,
what
we've
seen
with
our
with
all
of
our
affordable
housing
owners
is
that
they
they
try
to
do
a
more
of
a
a
gradual
increase.
So
if
it
goes
down,
they
keep
it
at
zero.
If
it
goes
up,
they
do
it
less.
So
it's
not
a
hard
knock
in
any
particular
year,
but
in
this
particular
situation
it
was
the
first
year
in,
and
so
when
you,
when
you
sign
a
lytec
financing,
deal
the
ami
that
you,
that
is
in
place
at
the
time
that
the
financing
is
is
signed
off.
H
I
So
what
we
can
do
is,
which
is
what
was
done
in
2011?
Is
they
basically
got
all
the
owners
around?
You
know
the
table
or
theoretically
around
the
table,
and
they
got
everyone
to
change
their
covenants
and
the
reason
they
did
it
at
that
time
is
because
the
administrative
burdens
were,
you
know,
we're
so
high,
and
so
the
covenants
can
only
change
through
mutual
agreements.
I
H
I
That's
correct:
we
could.
That
would
be
a
place
to
have
that
discussion.
Yeah.
The
other
thing
we
can
so
the
first
bullet
point.
We
can't
change
the
covenants
for
only
one
group
and
that's
that's
sort
of
a
rent
control,
a
state,
rent,
controlled
challenge
and
the
second
one
is
as
well.
So
we
can't
the
City
Council
can't
pass
an
ordinance
that
says
this
is
how
you're
gonna
do
your.
This
is
how
you're
gonna
do
rents.
I
So
the
the
only
path
is
through
a
change
in
the
covenants,
so
the
there
could
be
an
approach
potentially
where
that
could
happen.
As
time
goes
on,
it
becomes
more
more
difficult
because
you
have
more
and
more
properties
and
more
and
more
owners
back
in
2011
there
were,
there
were
still
quite
a
few
I
think
there
was
a
little
over
2000
units
at
that
time.
I
So
these
are
potential
next
steps
that
we
we've
thought
about.
First
of
all,
this
would
have
to
be
designated
by
the
City
Council
to
put
on
our
work
plan.
It's
not
currently
on
our
work
plan
for
this
year
and
if
you
remember
last
year
at
the
I'm
sorry
this
year,
the
retreats
in
January-
they
theoretically
did
a
two-year
work
plan,
saying
that
they're
not
going
to
have
a
retreat
this
year,
we'll
see
if
that
happens
or
not,
but
I'm
sure
they'll
be
here
to
give
input
to
the
work
plans.
I
I
Approach
to
setting
rents
digging
up
a
little
more
of
that
history.
Looking
at
more
of
the
trends
between
market
and
affordable
units,
doing
community
engagement
around
this,
both
with
residents
of
affordable
housing
as
well
as
owners
of
affordable
housing
and
then
looking
at
what
from
a
legal
standpoint,
you
know,
what's
what
options
would
we
have?
C
F
Right,
I
don't
have
any
particular
specific
question,
but
it's
pretty
clear
that
this
is
income
inequality,
driven
issue
that
people
who
you
know
clearly
aren't
getting
wage
increases,
the
ami
increases,
but
they
are
caught
at
the
bottom
of
the
system
and
their
rents
continue
to
go
up.
So
we
either
as
a
community,
have
to
figure
out
some
way
to
decrease
the
income
inequality
issue
or
find
a
new
targeting
system
here,
because
doing
nothing
is
only
gonna.
You
know
we're
gonna
continue
the
same
way.
We're
going
right
now.
F
I
I
If
we,
we
would
have
to
be
careful
in
any
policy
that
we
pass
like
that
or
Avenue
or
any
new
covenants
that
we
put
in
place
that
it
wouldn't
prevent
funding
of
new
projects.
If
we
went
too
far,
the
developer
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
ahead
and
get
funding
for
the
project,
so
we
need
to.
We
just
need
to
balance
that
as
well.
H
So
Adam
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
maybe
for
all
of
us,
cuz
I
think
we're
probably
on
the
same
place
that
we
we
get
where
the
break
is
occurring
and
and
in
agreement
that
there's
there's
possibilities
to
be
explored
here.
Maybe
this
might
be
a
great
opportunity
to
kind
of
utilize
that
planning
outline
that
we
had
talked
about
and
maybe
to
explore
some
options
and
really
not
here
right
now
deep
dive
into
those
and
possibly
come
up
with
some
ideas,
because
the
City
Council's
going
to
be
addressing
this.
H
F
H
C
So,
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
of
you
for
coming
tonight,
because
I'm
guessing
by
your
signs
that
this
is
your
big
topic
of
interest
of
our
meeting
tonight
and
thank
you
Curt
for
all
the
work
you
do
on
affordable
housing.
I
know
you
really
are
devoted
to
it.
I
I'm,
a
person
it
never
dawned
on
me
till
this
came
up
a
few
months
ago
that
people
would
have
to
leave
affordable
housing
because
they
could
no
longer
pay
for
it
looks
like
that.
I
Yeah
I
can
answer
that
so
up
until
a
handful
of
years
ago,
virtually
all
of
the
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
Boulder
was
owned
by
either
the
Housing,
Authority
or
nonprofits
and
partly
through
the
you
know,
called
success
of
the
IH
program
and
through
the
pressure
of
the
community
and
pressure
I,
think
of
city
council
as
well.
There's
been
a
it's
hard,
not
to
notice
that
the
community
in
City
Council
wants
private
developers
to
do
affordable
housing.
It's
being
played
out
right
now.
You
know
at
311.
I
So
one
example
I
can
give
of
sort
of
success.
Of
all
of
those
things
is
the
the
seek
low
project,
which
is
in
the
it's
just
east
of
30th
Street,
which
will
they're
getting
permits
now
they'll
be
starting
construction
on
that
soon.
It's
part
of
the
SPARC
area
so
that
that
Sigler
project
was
brought
through
by
a
private
developer
and
it's
part
of
a
bigger
project
and
they
created
one
building
integrated
with
the
project
as
affordable,
housing
and
they're.
I
Now
working
with
bhp
they're
gonna
build
it
and
bhp
is
going
to
then
own
it
and
manage
it.
So
there
it's
it's
it's
nice
to
create
those
partnerships,
because
I
think
that
they're
a
better
solution
and
it's
it's
sort
of
that.
That's
a
new
thing
for
Boulder
and
I
think
it's
great
to
see
the
private
developers
working
in
that
with
the
housing
authority
and
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
advantages
to
that
in.
I
C
C
C
I
Other
private
developers,
so
Depot
Square,
is
owned
by
a
private
developer.
They've
raised
the
rent,
seven
percent
and
through
our
conversations
with
them,
I
believe
that
they've
taken
both
things
into
consideration.
One
is
the
right
residence
and
one
is
their
expenses,
as
you
saw
in
the
memo,
you
know
their
their
property
taxes,
as
one
example
have
has
gone
up
at
camera-
probably
fifty
percent
over
the
last
three
years,
but
if
that
was
owned
by
housing
authority,
that
would
look
a
little
bit
differently
right.
I
C
My
next
question
can
I'm
pretty
sure
that
whenever
you
apply
for
low-income
housing
or
for
affordable
housing,
you
obviously
have
to
turn
in
some
verifiable
proof
that
you
indeed
qualify
at
60%
or
whatever.
It
is
right.
So
isn't
there
some
that's
something
like
that
like,
since
that
information
has
to
come
in
every
year
again,
but
that
can
be
used
as
a
criteria,
and
if
people's
wages
are
stagnant,
then
they
don't
have
to
have
an
increase.
That
is
that
too,
dreamy
yeah.
I
I
You
know
they're
not
that
much
difference,
because
as
you've
seen
over
time
or
since
2000,
the
rents
have
gone
up
an
average
of
1.8%,
it
doesn't
mean
you're,
not
gonna,
have
years
like
this
year.
Worse,
it
spiked
in
a
way,
that's
not
great,
but
if
you
compare
that
to
the
3%
maximum,
you
know
it
falls
within
that.
But.
C
C
C
I
C
I
C
C
And
then
the
next
question
is
somebody
talked
about
all
the
different
increases
just
at
this
place
and
I
assume
there
may
be
other
increases
and
things
like
having
each
unit
pay
individually
for
their
utilities
instead
of
a
flat
rate
in
the
parking
and
all
those
things.
That
alarmed
me
a
lot,
because
that's
a
lot
of
money
for
someone
at
that
income,
and
so,
although
that's
not
directly
housing,
I
hope,
that's
something
that
we
get
to
take
a
look
at
and
comment
on
and
then
can.
H
You
pause
right.
There
I
want
to
tack
on
to
that
back
to
the
things
that
we
can
and
can't
do
when
we're
talking
about
the
30-day
I'm
I'm
also
really
curious
about
it,
because
it
seems
with
then
the
developers
are
doing
or
in
gaming
it
and
and
by
were
like
what
Megan
was
talking
about
with
the
parking
and
the
utilities
and
the
storage
units.
Is
there
any
control
over
that
for
individuals
who
are
in
affordable
housing
and
if
not,
why
not
yeah.
I
Can't
remember
the
term
right
now,
but
there's
like
a
standard
amount
for
utilities
for
each
unit
type,
so
it
needs
to
fit
sort
of
fit
within
that
in
the
case
of
Depot
Square
they
individually
individually
metered.
So
if
you
go
over
that
set
amount
that
you
get
each
month
and
you
pay
above
that,
that's
how
I
understand
that,
so
the
other
other
properties
that
don't
meter
individually,
they
still
have
a
set
amount
for
utilities
that
plays
into
that
is.
A
H
I
The
other
thing
that's
worth
mentioning
is
Depot.
Square
is
sort
of
a
unique
project
to
our
other
projects
in
the
city.
It's
it's.
It's
part
of
Boulder
Junction
as
such
it
they
also
have
I,
could
say
additional
taxes
that
other
properties
don't
have
called
the
pilot
fees
and
that's
used
to
support
the
you
know,
sort
of
the
transportation
district
and
so
part
of
what,
if
you,
if
you
live
in
Depot
Square,
it
was
a
sort
of
a
direction
that
was
set
by
City,
Council
and
Planning
Board.
I
As
that
whole
area
was
developed
that
that
everything
would
be
according
to
some
principles,
which
is
basically
what
you
know
the
residents
described
there,
and
so
that
goes
for
that
whole
area,
even
xxx
and
Pearl
well,
will
need
to
be
set
up
according
to
some
principles
as
well.
Where
and
the
idea
of
that
is
that
parking
will
always
be
paid
for
and
so
in
in
in
in
exchange
for
that
they
will
receive
you
know
they.
I
H
I'm,
just
finding
all
of
these.
Yes,
anything
I
do
think
that
there's
got
to
be
a
way
to
to
look
into
them
a
little
bit
more
looking
at
the
faces
on
a
couple
of
people
and
yeah
curious.
If
the
communication
of
the
bus
passes
and
and
those
principals
in
that
area
I've
gone
gone
through
and
what
that
looks
like,
but,
yes
keep
going
so.
C
You
know
someone
eagerly
told
me
all
about
car
sharing
ideas
and
I,
and
it's
like
I.
Just
don't
feel
good
about
that.
You
know
that,
and
people
actually
say
things
to
me
like
well,
they
can
just
take
uber.
It's
like
seriously.
You're
talking
about
a
lot
of
people
who
probably
might
be
driving
uber
to
increase
their
income
and
they
need
their
cars
and
they
need
them
where
they
can
see
them
and
they
can't
walk
six
blocks
anyway.
B
I,
don't
have
much
dad
just
want
to
restate
a
point
that
that
question
I
had
earlier
about
the
where,
in
the
spectrum
of
am
I,
you
can
focus
on
and
that's
tied
to
a
lot
of
the
financing
and
so
I
think
it's
going
to
be
important
for
counseling
us
to
have
a
understanding
of
really
what
the
limitations
are
to
kind
of
shift
were
the
focus
with
an
ami
spectrum
can
be
without
basically
undermining
or
funding
for
those
same
projects.
Yeah.
B
Don't
think
it's
necessarily
unreasonable
to
presume
there
will
be
other
years
where
there
will
be
big
spikes
and
so
to
the
extent
that
things
can
be
graduated
as
they
have
been
somewhat
in
some
years,
while
the
costs
went
or
the
ami
went
down,
rinsed
it
and
go
up.
Ultimately
what
people
are
looking
for
is
predictability,
and
maybe,
even
in
those
downturn,
ami
downturn
years,
maybe
modest,
increases
that
offset
future
larger
increases
might
be
a
good
strategy.
Just
so,
people
have
a
more
predictable
progression
in
rent
increases,
yeah.
I
So
when
I
look
back,
I
found
one
other
year
that
had
a
10%
increase,
so
it
was
a
slightly
lower
than
this
year.
What
I,
don't
know
is
what
the
what
the
rents
increased
over
at
that
time.
That's
something
that
we
would
have
to
find
out
and
I.
Don't
I
didn't
have
that
information
this
week,
one
of
the
things
I'm
looking
back,
though,
that
we
did
see.
I
So
there
was
a
when
this
previous
policy
was
in
place
and
previous
covenants
there
was
a
period
of
about
I
think
it
was
about
five
or
six
years
where
the
ami
didn't
go
up
at
all.
The
rents
didn't
go
up
at
all,
and
some
of
the
affordable
housing
projects
became
a
little
less,
financially
stable
and
then,
as
at
that
time,
you
know,
CPI's
started
going
up
slightly,
so
it
was
more
based
on
on
that
at
that
point
and
they
could.
They
couldn't
raise
the
rents
any
more
than
three
percent,
but
they
had
fallen
behind.
I
You
know
the
market
had
gone
up.
You
know
fifteen
twenty
percent
and
they
had
been
stagnant
for
five
years,
and
so
it
created
a
challenge
in
getting
some
of
those
properties.
So
this
year,
work
Medina
about
I,
think
it's
about
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
into
some
of
those
properties
in
actually
renovating
them
and
getting
them
more
energy-efficient
and
operated,
partly
as
a
result
because
they
weren't
they
over
that
period.
Retirees
they
sort
of
lost
ground
on
their
financial
sustainability.
F
H
Have
a
place
that
is
permanently
affordable
and
you
were
saying
that
the
reason
why
there
was
going
up
was
because
they
saw
a
50%
increase
in
their
property
taxes.
Why
are
they
facing
the
same
taxes
that?
Why
are
they
not
getting
a
greater
discount?
Because
it's
an
affordable
property
I,
don't
understand
where
that.
B
H
I
take
it
from
the
people
house
right
from
the
affordable
house
right
if
we're
gonna
set
it
up,
then
yeah
so
I'm
on
that
I
just
want
to
kind
of
wrap
up
the
discussion
by
saying
that
I
find
this,
the
ami
fascinating
it's
happening
on
a
national
level.
There's
a
lot
of
people.
I'm
reading
articles
and
I
participate
in
several
all
groups
across
the
country
that
are
all
trying
to
address
this
right
now,
so
I
think
as
a
board.
H
The
exciting
opportunity
is
that
we
can
look
at
this
in
a
bigger
way
and
maybe
maybe
cause
some
change
in
here-
that
I
think
we're
all
interested
in,
and
then
we
possibly
have
some
short-term
items
that
we
could
affect
as
well.
So
I'm
excited
about
this
being
an
opportunity
to
really
kind
of
dig,
dig
our
teeth
into
and
and
see
what's
possible,
just
to
explore
it
for
opportunities
and
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with.
So
I
appreciate
your
time
too,
because
I
know
you
have
so
much
of
it.
B
B
C
C
Okay,
that
we
want
to
try
a
couple
things
that
were
right
now
we're
calling
housing
ignite,
but
we
want
to
have
a
couple
meetings,
maybe
this
first
year
where
we
try
experiments
to
do
something
in
a
little
different
way.
And
what
has
interested
me,
the
most
and
I
think
I
had
discussed
this
with
you
Kurt,
is
that
when
I
sit
out
in
the
audience
at
a
Planning,
Board
meeting
or
City
Council
meeting
I
hear
if
there's
an
issue
of
which
there's
division,
two
different
opinions
or
several
different
opinions.
C
One
side
I'll
get
up
and
give
their
speech
and
they'll
give
it
very
intensely
and
they
may
disparage
the
other
side
a
little
bit
and
then
the
other
side
will
get
up
and
say
their
thing
and
people.
It's
sort
of
like
listening
to
Congress
on
c-span,
where
people
are
making
passionate
speeches
and
they're
all
making
good
points.
But
there's
no
those
things
just
float
out
into
the
ethers
and
go
nowhere.
C
So
I'd
like
to
try
some
kind
of
engagement,
we're
almost
like
a
good
old-fashioned
debate
where
people
could
debate
the
topic
and
then
rebut
a
little
bit
for
a
brief
time.
And
then
we
ask
questions
and
then
we
see
if
we
can
find
common
ground
and
Kurt
even
said
that
there
is
the
possibility.
If
we
wanted
to
go
that
direction.
Did
you
say
this
for
facilitator.
C
C
C
Not
a
specific
project,
we
don't
get
to
do.
We
don't
get
to
do
projects
but
a
more
more
broad
one
like
density
and
neighborhood
character
or
occupancy,
or
something
like
that,
and
that
would
and
have
something
like
that,
where
it's
an
old-fashioned
debate,
I
even
thought,
as
specifically
as
we
could
have,
four
people
speak
for
four
minutes
each.
We
could
have
better
bolder
pick.
One
person
plan
plan
plan,
bolder
pick
one
person
and
then
in
the
audience
we
could
say
how
many
of
you
want
to
talk
about
density.
C
C
Each
we
ask
questions
and
then
we
all
work,
perhaps
with
a
facilitator,
to
try
and
find
common
ground,
and
we
can
just
as
an
experiment,
see
if
that
works
and
I'll
also
add
to
that
by
saying:
I've
been
trying
to
talk
to
a
lot
of
people,
many
of
whom
I
suspect
I.
Would
agree
with
and
I
found
out,
I
do
agree
with
many
whom
I
don't
agree
with
at
all,
but
really
liked
them
and
I
really
believe
that
we
can
find
common
ground
and
that
that's
the
way
we
can
start
solving
some
of
the
problems.
B
I
want
to
just
make
a
comment
in
2012,
Planning
Board
had
a
three-day
long
hearing
on
Hogan
pan
cos,
and
it
was
really
interesting.
You
that's
before
your
time,
because
the
applicant
had
their
hydrologist
come
in
testify.
The
neighborhood
had
better
hydrologists
come
and
testify,
and
the
city
hired
a
third
party,
and
it
actually
ended
up
in
a
very
collegial
discussion
between
the
three
experts
and
they
actually
came
to
common
agreement
that,
in
fact
there
wasn't
all
the
information
that
was
needed
to
substantiate
the
application
and
I
think
that
was
a
good
model.
B
So
I
really
like
generally
the
idea
that
you're
proposing
it's
amazing
when
you
get
those
parties
together
in
a
room,
especially
in
a
public
forum
and
you're,
just
talking
about
the
technical
merits,
how
much
overlap
that
there
can
be,
and
they
probably
went
off
the
reservation
to
some
extent
relative
to
what
they're
paying
clients
would
have
preferred.
But
actually
it
was
very
productive.
I.
A
F
The
debate,
one
is
where
we
run
into
problems
of
how
do
we
choose
the
people
exactly?
What
is
fair
representation?
You
know
yeah
because
we
want
like
we
discussed.
We
want
someone
who
has
enough
background
knowledge
and
a
position
to
defend
it,
but
we
don't
want
to
you
know
if
we're
trying
for
public
engagement,
selecting
only
for
people
to
engage
with
is
kind
of
not
ideally
there,
so
yeah
I
love
the
idea.
It's
just
I,
don't
know
if
it's
representative
enough
I
suppose.
C
C
H
It
might
be
kind
of
interesting
to
see
if
we
could
come
up
with
a
format
that
every
time
like
you
know,
when
I'm
trying
to
put
together
this
poll
on
all
those
initiatives
that
we
wrote
down,
that
that's
how
we
launched
the
discussion
is,
maybe
it's.
You
know
whether
it's
around
the
job
housing
imbalance
and
then
we
open
for
you,
know
an
hour
to
of
discussion
around
it,
and
then
we
go
into
something
it's
I
mean
I'm,
intrigued,
I.
Think
there's
I'd
be
curious.
H
If
we
could
talk
to
the
facilitator
to
see
if
they
would
have
an
idea
how
best
to
bring
something
to
encourage
the
public
to
come
in
in
maybe
a
fun
way.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
like
about
trestle
is
their
ability
to
take
opposing
you
know,
positions
and
have
and
funnel
everybody
down
into
a
certain
and
it's
through
the
dots.
H
You
know
using
dots
and
and
so,
if
we're
talking
about
density-
and
we
say-
okay,
you
know,
let's
come
up
with
how
many
or
let's
let's
talk
about
occupancy,
so
the
for
all
the
pros,
all
the
cons.
Let's
put
up
the
dots.
Let's
start
having
discussions
around
it
and
also
you
know,
Brenda
written
our
in
that
group.
H
B
Does
that
as
well,
and
because
it's
with
the
planning
department,
there's
sort
of
a
dividend
paid
with
that
in
that
a
we're
engaging
the
notthis
City
Planning
Department,
but
the
university's
urban
planning
department
we're
engaging
with
university
students,
which
is
a
plus
and
also
you
know,
they're
getting
some
direct
value
educationally
and
interacting
with
their
community
that
they
live
in
at
a
level
that
they
normally
don't
engage
with.
So
that
might
be
a
facilitation
avenue
to
pursue
yeah.
C
H
P
I
think
if
people
have
said
I
think
you're
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
the
right
spirit
is
asking.
The
public
I
had
the
same
comment
that
Mason
started
out
with
his
asks
of
facilitators,
how
you
get
to
what's
the
best
way
to
hear
a
lot
of
voices
I,
like
the
part
where
you
started
out
with
concerns
and
solutions,
because
I
I
always
think
that
that's
really
productive
and
can
inform
a
lot
of
your
work
and
then
the
through
the
comp
plan
process.
P
There
were
some
really
good
meetings
where
people
discuss
the
issue
at
various
tables.
You
know
the
tables
were
all
self
selecting
board
members
council
members
sat
at
tables
also
the
people
that
were
there
so
I
think
maybe
debrief
with
some
of
the
cuts
too
bad.
We
lost
Leslie
Ellis,
so
she
wouldn't
be
available
for
a
debrief,
but
there
are
enough
people
around
that
we're
involved
in
the
comp
plan.
That
might
be
able
to
say
this
is
what
what
really
worked
or
that
we
got
good
feedback
in
the
public
on
I,
think
gene
yeah.
C
Yeah,
it's
interesting
good,
yeah,
I
I
went
through
all
the
applications
recently
and
I
wrote
down
all
their
ideas
and
put
it
on
a
spreadsheet,
not
sure
if
everyone
later
yeah,
it's
interesting,
it's
very
interesting
to
do.
It
sounded
to
me
that
from
what
you
said,
that
there's
some
sense
that
the
first
idea
is
pretty
easy,
like
that's
pretty
doable
to
start
with
of
having
a
meeting
where
we
do
a
lot
of
publicity
and
say
during
the
public
comment,
we
really
want
to
hear
your
housing
concern
and
your
solution.
C
You
know
your
suggestion
of
what
might
help
us
we're
looking
for
solutions
and
ask
for
emails.
That
seems
pretty
easy
and
then
it
sounds
like
we
need
to
put
your
address.
Pardon
my
address
to
my
notes
at
the
housing
advisory
board
to
my
post
office
box
and
and
then
the
other
it
sounds
like
we
need
to
talk
about
continued
a
so.
B
I
think
Mason
mentioned
this
right
after
you
make
your
comments,
which
is
when
we
identify
our
goals.
That
might
be
a
way
to
tee
up
that
first,
that
that
session,
what
you're,
just
talking
about,
is
a
little
bit
different,
which
is
getting
deciding
what
our
goals
are
based
on.
What
kind
of
feedback
you
get
from?
The
public
is
remind
us
construing
that
not.
C
H
He's
called
ignites
housing,
which
is
the
first
instead
of
just
calling
it
open
comment
will
be.
We
can
reframe
it
a
little
bit
that
we
want
you
to
come
really
push
the
idea
that
we're
looking
for
a
one
in
one
or
two
in
one
combo,
and
we
really
help
us
help.
You
kind
of
thing.
Could
you
explain
in
a
tank.
H
C
Think
that
sounds
good,
so
does
that
mean
that
we
would
want
to
start
in
yeah
we're
in
June
now
at
the
end
of
July
at
our
fourth
meeting,
our
fourth
Wednesday
meeting
in
July?
Try
to
before
then
get
a
lot
of
information
out
about
public
comment
and
email.
If
you
can't
come
that
sort
of
thing
and
if
we
do
do
that
and
everyone
agrees,
is
it
okay?
If
Adam
and
I
work
on
publicity
approaches
and
then
present
it
to
the
full
board.
B
B
C
C
B
C
B
H
H
B
I
still
think
it
needs.
Let
me
yes,
sir
I
still
think
it
needs
a
little
bit
more
framework
to
it,
because
you
want
to
manage
expectations,
okay,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
try
to
take
on
things
that
we
think
we
have
a
reasonable
chance
of
getting
on
a
council
work
plan
for
next
year
and
something
for
two
years
and
something
for
three
years.
We
should
inform
people
when
we
put
out
this
solicitation
that
aspect
of
it
so
they're
not
sort
of
defeated
or
become
disengaged,
because
we've
ignored
so
many
of
them.
B
H
B
H
H
P
P
P
I
wasn't
able
to
see
Kristen's
presentation
but
I'm
going
to
watch
it
now
that
this
taped,
which
is
really
wonderful,
so
maybe
some
of
the
background
presentations.
You
can
kind
of
segment
them
out
and
I
like
the
idea.
The
big
and
small
ideas,
because
we
went
we've
gone
through
this
whole
ad,
you
Odate,
oau
and
one
issue-
that's
been
coming
up
lately
has
been
the
minimum
size
or
minimum
sizes
are
so
big,
and
that
was
never
discussed
and
I'm
sure
we'll
hear
here's
some
discussion
on
that.
C
B
Jeff
did
send
at
our
request
a
highlighted
draft
work
plan,
and
so
maybe
we
jump
into
this
real,
quick
and
then
come
back
to
that
to
see
how
it
might
fit
in
the
let's
say
anything
that
we
would
send
out
to
the
public.
We
probably
want
to
have
ready
for
the
board
to
agree
to
no
eating
in
two
weeks
right.
C
A
B
There
would
be
two
weeks
to
get
notification
out
to
the
public,
but
if
we
don't
get
it
done
in
two
weeks,
then
the
board
can't
really
meet
to
say
yes
is
that
we
all
agree
so
that
would
that
would
be
our
timeline.
So
if
actually
holy,
do
you
have
Jeff's
I?
Have
it
on
my
computer?
Do
you
have
Jeff's
draft
work
plan
on
yours.
H
B
B
B
C
B
F
C
B
B
F
B
B
H
I
A
F
C
I
just
want
to
check
one
thing
out:
why
we're
all
here?
Is
it
okay?
If,
in
our
draft
we
go
as
far
as
contact
older,
weekly
and
builder
daily
camera
and
say,
would
you
be
interested
in
doing
a
story
about
this?
That
sort
of
thing
are
you,
okay
with
that
preliminarily
or
do
you
want
that
to
be
part
of
our
draft
that
we
want
to
do
that.
C
A
P
H
F
H
H
Two
really
big
things
happened
is
that
the
polling
software
that's
out
there
and
how
I
started
to
structure
this
I
started
running
into
issues
and
and
I
think
I
finally
found
a
polling
app
that
it's
called
a
planning
app
and
that
will
help
me
be
able
to
go
through
and
figure
out
how
to
do
both
of
those,
because
it's
kind
of
a
star
rating.
You
know
like
one
through
five:
what's
your
priority
on
alternative
housing
and
then,
which
year
do
you
want
to
see
it
in?
H
But
if
you
start
to
get
closer
on
it,
I
started
thinking:
okay,
well,
alternative
housing,
I
mean
we'd,
want
to
start.
Having
that
discussion
soon,
correct
I
mean
we'd
want
to
start
to
possibly
have
that
discussion
and
then
job
housing
and
balance,
the
balance
and
the
middle
income
and
affordability
right
we're
talking
about
right.
They
see
where
I'm
going
with
this,
so
each
one
of
them
started
to
become
all
kind
of
priority.
H
C
H
C
B
I
think
what'll
happen
is,
we
may
end
up
with,
say
half
a
dozen
high-priority
things
for
2019,
which
is
fine,
and
then
that's
that'll
be
the
basis
for
our
discussion
and
from
that
we'll
Whittle
it
down
to
five
things
or
you
know
two
to
a
reasonable
amount
of
things,
and
there
may
then
be
another
iteration
where
we
Whittle
it
down
further,
and
this
is
what
you
know
we
realistically
can
expect
to
do.
But
it's
I
think
it's
a
good
starting
point.
Okay,.
B
B
Because
that
will
inform
us
when
we
rank
things
with
the
poll,
we'll
have
a
little
bit
more
insight
to
it.
For
instance,
whoever
say
occupancy
might
care
to
spend
two
or
three
minutes
expanding
a
little
bit
on
what
they
have
in
mind.
Why
this
is
important,
and
that
way
we
all
have
a
better
understanding
of
it.
So
we
we
have
some
time
what
else
is
on
our
agenda?
We
have
a
briefing
from
you
and
Adam
on
communications
and
the
website
stuff.
You
wanted
to
talk
about.
I,
don't
think
anybody
else
has
any
matters
that
occurred.
H
Your
piece
is
that
what
you
guys
yeah,
let's
spend
some
time
on
that
because
I
know
JT
sent
us
something
as
well.
So
I'm,
okay
with
skipping
this,
because
again
there'll
be
a
box
for
comments
after
each
one
of
them.
So
if
maybe,
when
you
rank
them,
you
can
say
this
is
what
I
think
this
is
like.
So
in
occupancy,
when
you
rank
it,
you
can
put
a
brief.
A
couple
sentences
that
say:
I
think
you
know
exploring
or
reviewing
how
many
people
are
in
a
house
is
important
and.
C
F
F
That
begs
the
question
of.
Do
we
still
want
to
try
to
move
meetings
around
in
the
community
at
all,
or
should
this
just
suffice
for
that
purpose,
because
our
whole
idea
was
try
to
you
know,
engage
with
people
who
we
might
not
be
able
to
by
ourselves
moving
to
a
different
part
of
the
community
and
having
a
meeting
there.
Is
this
enough?
That's
just
sort
of
a
general
question
of
the
board
is.
F
C
B
I'd,
like
the
idea
of
moving
about
in
person
in
the
community,
so
we
can
do
this
televised
and
maybe
sometimes
move
it
into
the
community
and
then,
depending
on,
where
we
end
up
with
our
interim
meeting.
If
it
persists,
you
know
beyond
this
summer,
when
our
lease
runs
out
on
the
church,
we
might
do
periods
of
time
in
some
other
venue
and
kind
of
move
it
around
the
city,
but
I
see
no
reason
why
we
have
to
anchor
ourselves
necessarily
to
the
council
chambers
for
a
regular
monthly
meeting.
So.
C
I
want
to
brand
it
as
our
time
when
we're
here
and
the
city
can't
channel
8
can't
accommodate
us
other
places
I
still
like
the
idea
of
going
out
into
the
community,
but
I
now
feel
that
would
be
on
occasion
by
whatever
it
comes
up
like
say:
there's
a
community
say,
there's
a
few
something
rather
and
they
could
really
use.
They
have
a
spot
where
we
could
go
and
have
a
meeting
there.
C
Let's
see
you
or
something
that
would
be
Purpose
Driven,
rather
than
just
we
have
to
go
out
somewhere
and
so
I
would
rather
do
it
that
if
somebody
comes
into
meeting
with
people
go,
they
would
really
like
us
to
come
out
and
all
have
a
meeting
there,
but
then
we
set
it
up.
Just
for
that
purpose,
that's
that's
my
feeling.
I.
F
Kind
of
agree
that
we
have
this
awesome
resource
now
and
I
don't
want
to
divert
away
from
it
because
not
only
do
we
have
the
live
aspect
of
it,
but
also
it's
recorded
and
recorded.
Well,
so
people
get
to
consume
it
whenever
they
have
the
opportunity.
I
love
the
idea
of
getting
out
in
the
community
in
general,
but
I
think
that
onus
should
just
be
on
us
trying
to
attend
events
within
the
community
itself.
I.
F
F
C
F
So
we
kind
of
wanted
to
make
sure
we
have
a
designated
person
that
most
of
those
and
to
make
sure
we're
just
communicating
that.
So,
since
you
seem
to
be
the
most
interested
in
those
types
of
events
and
the
most
able
with
your
scheduling,
we
wanted
to
sort
of
see
if
you
were
comfortable
sort
of
taking
the
lead
role
met
and
then
being
the
person
to
say
to
one
of
us.
I
can't
make
this
one.
So
can
you
please
one
of
you
yeah.
H
H
To
not
introduce
myself
or
say
anything
because,
honestly,
that's
when
honest
conversations
happen
so
yeah
I.
You
know
now
that
we're
being
televised
it's
a
little
bit
different,
but
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
attend
a
lot
of
the
chats
and
stuff
with
council
is
because
I
like
to
just
hear
what
people
are
saying
that
might
not
necessarily
come
here
and
say
it
gotcha.
F
We
were
supposed
to
talk
about
sort
of
the
guidelines
for
public
speaking
for
us.
I
think
we
all
did
a
brief
overview
on
that
and
sort
of
understood
that
if
we
ever
do
speak
in
public,
it's
important
that
we
state
who
we
are
speaking
for
and
in
almost
every
case
we
should
only
be
speaking
for
ourselves.
F
H
B
H
H
F
We
haven't
exactly
suss
out
what
that's
going
to
look
like
exactly,
but
we
wanted
to
see
if
you
guys
are
okay
with
that
being
the
sort
of
first
underrepresented
group
that
we
can
try
to
make
some
specific
plans
and
again
we'll
decide
on
what
all
the
language
is
and
everything
like
that
when
we're
trying
to
do
outreach,
but
that
was
sort
of
the
first
group
we
were
thinking
about.
Yes,.
H
H
F
H
H
C
My
list
so
I
met
with
Sarah
Holly
yesterday
and
she
showed
me
so
many
things
about
be
heard.
Boulder
and
it's
fabulous
like
the
tools.
She
showed
me
behind
the
scenes,
sort
of
it
of
how
it's
put
together
in
the
tools
and
this
and
that
and
it's
fabulous
and
she's,
just
so
good
at
what
she
does.
The
way
she's
already
had
so
much
experience
with
be
heard,
Boulder
that
she
has
ideas
about
what
might
work
and
what
might
not
work
and
I
felt
so
comfortable.
C
That
I
believe
her
ideas
are
probably
the
best
way
forward
and
she
said:
there's
different
things
will
have
to
decide
a
little
later
on,
like
you
can
have
people
when
they
go
on
to
be
heard,
Boulder
Register,
and
so
you
can
contact
them
back
because
you
have
their
email
and
their
contact
their
email
information,
but
fewer
people.
Do
it
that
way.
Then,
if
you
turn
that
off
and
people
don't
have
to
register-
and
they
can
just
make
their
comments,
and
so
there's
pros
and
cons
that
she
said
we
have
to
weigh
heavily.
C
She
thought
that
we
didn't
need.
We
need
to
pick
a
topic
rather
than
putting
something
out
open-ended
like
we
may
want
to
have
for
our
meeting
in
August.
She
said:
wouldn't
work
on
be
her.
He
heard
Boulder
it'd
be
way
too
diffused,
and
she
said
that
the
tool
of
people
telling
their
stories
probably
wouldn't
work
for
that,
but
she
thought
she
said.
C
A
specific
topic-
that's
not
on
the
occupancy
occupancy,
could
be
a
good
one,
because
it's
not
on
the
work
plan.
Right
now
and
it's
a
it's
a
big
issue
and
I
don't
care
what
it
is.
Then
she
said
that
I
would
meet
with
her
and
we
would
develop
a
plan
and
she's.
She
just
started
spouting
off
what
the
wording
should
be
for
something
and
is
like
she's
just
so
good
at
it
and
and
and
then
I
would
come
back
at
another
meeting
to
everyone
and
get
approval
on
on
that.
B
C
So
I,
so
what
I
will
tell
her
is
that
when
we
have
proceeded
further
with
our
goals,
we
will
pick.
We
will
pick
with
the
list
and
the
poll
may
be
the
results
of
the
poll
either
number
one
or
number
two
from
the
poll
that
not
on
the
city
work
plan.
Already
we
will
select
that
sounds
great
I'll
be
fine,
okay,
so
the
next
thing
is
I
met
with
a
group
called
the
area.
C
Aging
Advisory
Council,
the
housing
subcommittee,
and
they
were
great
and
their
biggest
interests,
of
course,
are
more
housing
for
seniors,
but
also
accessibility
and
I
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
Lafayette
already
has
in
their
housing
ordinances,
accessibility
as
a
factor
and
that
and
and
by
accessibility
they
mean
they
sometimes
call
it.
Universal.
C
Is
another
term
they
use
work,
but
that
houses
in
the
future
are
made
that
are
wide
enough
for
wheelchairs
and
that
where
you
can
get
in
the
front
door
without
having
to
go
up
steps
and
all
those
things,
so
they
would
like
to
know
if
sometime
they
could
come
and
give
us
a
brief
presentation
like
15
20,
minute
presentation.
So
we
would
be
more
aware
of
the
issues
in
housing,
they're,
great
and.
B
C
Ok
and
then
I
also
met
with
John
terre
who's
headed
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
they're
very
interested
in
housing,
and
they
would
be
willing
if
we
want
it,
if
the
board
so
wanted
to
partner
with
us
on
some
sort
of
public
event
to
promote
positive
discourse
about
housing.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
there's
nothing
that
comes
to
mind.
I
mean
there's
nothing.
He
there
wasn't
a
specific
plan
or
anything
that
we
came
up
with
it.
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
so.
B
A
A
B
C
Sorry,
thank
you.
The
chair
of
the
Human
Relations
Commission,
and
he
and
I
were
just
talking
a
little
bit
at
that
event
that
the
City
Council
put
on
that
we're
at
and
we
both
thought
it
would
be
nice.
It's
both
boards,
we're
willing
to
sometimes
have
to
one
time,
have
a
joint
study
session
because
they
know
things
about.
They
know
more
things
about
the
people
and,
what's
going
on
than
we
do,
and
we
we
know
more,
or
at
least
some
of
you
about
the
actual
housing
issues.
C
F
C
C
But
I
would
like
if
it's
okay
with
you
for
me
to
start
like
you're
doing
the
one
with
students
I
would
like
to
start
a
committee
of
people
who
live
in
affordable
housing
and
not
necessarily
about
rent
increases,
just
a
committee
that
would
maybe
meet
where
I
would
go
to
different
places
and
try
and
find
people.
It's
not
like
I
have
people
in
mind,
I'd
go
I'd,
get
the
list
of
different
places
and
try
and
get
something
and
just
maybe
meet
quarterly
to
just
hear.
C
What's
up,
you
know
like:
what's
what's
going
on
housing,
wise
with
them
and
just
I,
don't
know
if
I
find
anything
out
or
not
I,
don't
know.
If
there
are
problems
in
some
of
these
places
or
not
I
just
thought
it
would
be
good
to
do
that.
That's
a
part
of
the
population,
that's
very
important
to
Boulder
and
that
doesn't
often
have
a
forum
for
being
heard.
So.
B
B
H
Would
add
to
that
that
Brenda
does
coffee
hours
and
the
coffee
shops
around
and
she
calls
them
listening
sessions,
so
maybe
getting
on
her
agenda
with
her
and
going
to
a
couple
of
them
and
saying
there's
a
housing
person.
She
would
love
that
it's
just
saying,
there's
a
housing
person
with
and
and
then
that
way
it
kind
of
a
built-in
audience
and
her
PR
cuz.
She
sends
it
out
on
her
email
list
as
well
to
everybody
I'm,
not
sure
it
needs
to
be
a
committee,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
Okay,
yeah.
F
Just
like
the
idea
of
that
simply
because
I
learned
something
tonight
that
I
never
would
have
learned
otherwise
specific
to
the
issue
of
them
being
able
to
raise
parking
fees,
or
you
know
just
the
the
amenities
thing
I
didn't
even
think
about
so
having
someone
who
is
living
in
that
environment
could
inform
us
of
those
types
of
things.
I
think
that's
pretty
important.
Actually,
okay,.
H
C
The
last
one
is
the
web
page,
so
I
looked
at
our
web
page
and
then
I
looked
at
other
web
pages
for
other
city
boards
and
there's
a
format
for
all
of
them.
That's
the
same
that
works
really
well.
I
have
no
concerns
at
all
about
the
general
format
and
I
think
they
all
look
great
and
interact
really
well,
but
the
content
at
the
beginning.
That
says
what
we're
about
I
actually
brought
both
things,
but
it
doesn't
list.
C
It
doesn't
list
all
of
our
all
the
things
we
do
as
cited
in
our
ordinance.
It
only
lists
a
few
of
them
and
it
leaves
out
some
some
big
ones
that
leaves
out
affordability,
accessibility
and
diversity,
and
it
leaves
out
I
think
it
leaves
out
the
regional
working
regional,
regionally
on
housing
issues,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
the
way
to
proceed.
It
seems
to
be
incurred.
C
You
can
help
me
with
this
is
for
us
to
agree
that
I
can
go
ahead
and
talk
to
Zack
about
we'd
like
that
first
part
just
reformatted
and
then
send
him
the
goals
where
he
can
find
the
goals.
Of
course
there
in
the
ordinance,
but
that
they'd
be
reformatted
to
more
accurately
or
more
closely
reflect
all
of
our
goals
as
defined
in
the
ordinance
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
was
and
I
don't
know.
C
I
just
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
it
easy
for
people
to
find
us,
so
I
just
want
to
find
out
how
that
decision
was
made.
Who
makes
it
and
if
there's
anything
that
can
be
done
about
it,
you
know
you
know
either
can
or
it
can't
and
just
find
out
more
about.
So
those
are
the
two
things
about
the
website.
B
Well,
I
would
say
we
should
go
ahead
and
complete
the
list
of
our
admission
on
the
website.
Yeah
and
the
other
part
of
it
is
a
technical
issue
and
I
think
that
doesn't
require
a
board
decision.
That's
just
Judy
finding
out.
If
it
can
be
done
to
get
us
a
higher
ranking
in
the
list
thing
or
not
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
binary
answer
right.
They
can
do
it
or
they
can
write.
C
B
H
B
H
C
B
B
So
you're,
looking
at
this
for
August
22nd,
so
potentially
we
might,
when
we
take
this
up
in
two
weeks,
strike
community
investment
from
that
agenda.
Okay,
though,
actually
that's
a
light
agenda
that
night.
That's
that's
two
and
a
half
hours,
so
we
may
not
have
to
bump
it.
We
might
be
fine,
okay,
debrief.
We
did
our
calendar
to
check
just
now.