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I
spent
hours
and
hours
detailing
every
minute
of
everything
that
happened,
and
and
watched
the
meeting
afterwards,,
and
I
heard
the
elizabeth,
or
whatever
her
name,
was,
ask,,
oh,
lynn,
has
a
question,
and
you,
michael,,
totally
ignored
totally
ignored,
her,
and
one,
on
to
say.
If
you
ever
want
to
come
to.
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Unfortunately,,
the
city
grandfathered,
everything
in
without
a
sunset,
and
investors
have
taken
advantage
of
the
very
loose
enforcement
of
the
use
it
or
lose.
Its
stipulation,
non-conforming
uses
count
toward
the
aidu
saturation
limit
and
the
large
number
of
legal
long-termforming
properties
on
the.
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We
do
not
object
to
a
to
use,,
but
we
share
concerns
about
the
proposed
changes
with
other
neighborhoods
surrounding
the
university,
and
hope
to
meet
with
staff,.
To
discuss
alternatives
to
the
one
size
fits
all
approach
before
a
final
draft
ordinance
is
written.
We
would
also
like
to
thank
the
chair.
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So
city
council
originally
identified
this
as
one
of
their
priority
projects
for
their
work
plan
last
year,
and
with
the
objective
to
increase
the
allowance
of
80
us
in
the
community,.
The
initial
direction
that
staff
got
was
to
look
at
removing
the
saturation
limit.
Look
at
allowing
both
an
attached
and.
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The
plan
for
engagement
for
this
project.
we're
trying
to
rely
a
lot
on
the
engagement
that
was
done
with
the
last
update,
because
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
engagement
done
at
that
time,
which
talked
about
a
lot
of
these
similar
issues.
So
there's
a
lot
there
that
we
can
still
use
to
inform.
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We
hosted
a
be
heard.
boulder
page.,
that's
our
online
public
engagement
site.,
where
people
can
submit
feedback
virtually
about
how
to
ad
user
working
currently,
and
any
input
on
the
changes,
as
well
as
just
a
clearing
house
for
where
people
can
find
information
about
how
to
provide
their
information.
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as
well.,
we
had
about
half
of
owners.
respond,,
which
is
great.
some
of
the
highlights,
which
I
know
our
housing
team
can
add
to
as
well,,
but
a
greater
person.
We
are
seeing
a
greater
percentage
of
80
use
being
used
as
space
for
either
visitors
or
relatives
rather
than
a
space
used
as
a
long
term
rental.
We
ask
people.
This
is.
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Alright.,
so
the
finally,,
these
focus
areas
think
I
promised
I
was
done
with
background,
and
then
I
had
some
more
background.
sorry
about
that.,
alright,
again.
the
scope,
that's
the
council
test
us
with,
or
saturation
limit,
size,
limits,,
clarifying
and
approval
processes.
So
the
saturation,
limit.
I've
already
mentioned
several
times,
and
I
believe
that
you
we
talked
about
it.
Last
time.
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In
the
evaluation,
since
I
mentioned,,
we
increased
the
saturation
limit
from
10
to
20..
We
also
tried
to
understand
how
many
a
to
use
actually
benefited
from
that
increase,
and
of
the
200
eightys
that
we
saw
appropriate
between
2,019
and
2,02241,
of
those,
so
that
light
green
part
of
the
pie.
They
actually
had
a
saturation
limit.
That
was.
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I'm
blanking
on
the
name
of
one
of
the
ones
that
we
saw
this
last
fall.,
but
one
of
the
things
that
was
curious
to
me
about
this
argument
is
what
I
remember
from
the
presentation
in
september,
and
looking
at
the
map
of
where
the
ads
were,
it
looked
like.
They
were
actually
very
few
at
use
listed
in
goss
grove
and
in
martin
acres
and
on
university.
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otherwise
I
just
wanna
say
I'm
super
excited
about
the
saturation
limit.
Being
eliminated.
seems
oh,.
I
one
thing
is,.
If,
if
you
were
going
to
carve
out
specific
neighborhoods
to
not
lift
the
saturation
limit,,
it
seems
to
me
that
maybe
it's
possible
to
cook
up
the
saturation
limit,
that
is,
is
easily
calculated
in
your
in
your
home
office,.
Rather
than
having
to
go
through
city
staff.
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I
think
miss
falling
talk
about
the
fact.
there's
like
a
100.
and
then
people,,
one
house,,
etc.,,
right?
and
so
really,
that
comes
down
to
occupancy,
enforcement
as
much
as
it
does
the
the
whole
notion
of
an
80
you
and
it
really
underscores
the
point
that
a
saturation
limit
like
I
was
saying.
That's
something
that
just
blocks
you
from
having.
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They
kind
of
froze
those
neighborhoods..
So
that's
where
the
idea
came
up
with
that
certain
areas
could
be
treated
differently.
if
need
be,
in
the
to
the
whole
tap,,
except
for
in
these
areas.
It
could
be
that
that's
an
option,
or
that's
something
that
council
is
gonna
and
some
of
you
guys
plenty
more,,
suggested
yeah,.
I
think
we
just
convey
that
to
city.
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I'm
sorry.
our
group,.
If
it's
in
the
garage,
is
that
considered
detached
or
attacked,
detached?
okay.
yeah,,
thanks
for
that
clarification.
and
then
one
of
the
other
parts
that
I
think
we
talked
about
in
september.
Is
that
there's
a
unique
definition
of
floor
area
for
80
use,,
which
trips
up
a
lot
of
people.
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One
thing
to
consider
what
the
potential
size
limit
increase
is
that,
as
we've
mentioned
before,,
there
is
an
incentive
for
people
to
do
an
affordable
atu
because
they
are
allowed
to
do
a
larger
size
and
so,.
If
we
were
to
increase
the
size,
the
market
rate
size,
we
would
and
and
if
we
want
to
keep.
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We're
getting
to
a
pretty
high
level,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
thread
that
needle..
I
understand
the
rationale
for
the
incentive,,
but
I
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I
think
maybe
some
new
on
stuff
the
size
would
be
great,,
but
I
I
really,
you
know,
somebody
brought
it
up,
and
I
think
it's
just
something
that
you
know,,
you
kind
of
really
think
about
to
hear.
It.
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That
working
families
can
live
in
is
really
what
we're
talking
about
here.
right?,
so
the
whole
notion
is
not
having
some
of
the
short-term
rails
not
having
guest
quarters,,
not
having
any
like
that,
having
practical
housing
stock,
in
an
area
that's,
you
know,
somewhat
unpacked,,
because
everything
else
is:
is
you
know,,
so
arduous
and
expensive?
Right?.
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And
this
this
goes
to
something
that
we
all
talked
about..
You
know
we
all
brought
up,
and-
and
we
realized
it
was
a
little
bit
complex
to
get
there,,
but
the
whole
notion
that,
hey,.
If
there
are
certain
set
designs,
you
said
this
is
already,
like
almost
like
3
approved
pre
stamp.
Remember
we
have.
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and
then
the
owner,
occupancy,
I
think,
is
just
a
clarification
issue.
That's
been
coming
up
a
lot,
and
public
comments
and
things
like
that.,
the
public
notice,
I
think,
impacts
the
the
timing
of
the
application,
which
I
think
that
that
can
dissuade
applicant
ado
applicants
because
it
it
adds
time
and
bureaucratic
process
by
having
that
step.
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agree
with
you
on,
on
the
public
notice..
This
is
where
I
kind
of
lurched
the
other
direction,,
which
is
that
for
dealing
with
public
process,
for
25
years,,
giving
somebody
to
notice,
and
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
without
increasing
the
procedure
without
having
hearings,
etc.
But
having
somebody
have
an
ability
to
write
something
in.
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Alright,
so
we'll
move
on..
I
think
this
is
maybe
the
last
slide.,
so
this
is
outside
of
the
actual
ordinance
updates.,
but
these
are
changes
to
the
process
that
could
make
some
improvements,,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this
a
bit
in
september.,
but
an
80
us.,
a
separate
application.,
so
you
have
to
apply
for
the
atu
some
fairly
detailed
plans.
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But
that's
not
your
last
step.,
so
you
have
to
then
submit
for
the
building.
permit,,
which
is
a
whole
different
round
of
review,,
with
more
reviewers
and
more
detail
about
building
code
and
things
like
that,
and
applicants
often
get
confused
thinking
that
that
first
step
is
all
that
they
needed
wired.
Why
do
I
need
to
include
more
detail,
or
they
run
into
an
issue?.
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And
then
finally,
the
fun
stuff
of
just
improving
our
handouts
and
things
self-service
stuff
on
our
website.
as
I've
been
looking
through,
all
these
comparable
cities,
there's
a
lot
of
great
examples
where
graphics
and
videos
and
things
like
that
can
be
used
to
help
people
understand
what
the
80
rules
are
that
apply
to
them.
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I
think
this
one
step
review
is
nice,,
but
that's
as
long
as
the
person
knows
exactly
what
they
need
to
do,
because
I
feel
like
it
probably
gets
complicated
after
the
first
submission
of
everything,
and
then
they
might
have
some,
you
know,
revisions
to
make.
So
that's
if
we're
really
clear
about
exactly
what
is
required.
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I
think
I
think,
john,
that's
an
important
point
just
to
make
about
like
there's
so
many
complexities
of
the
building
permit
review
that
they
don't
even
get
to
after
they've
already
designed
their
whole
eighty-u,
so
by
putting
them
into
that
process.
Initially,
they
understand
the
full
implications
of
what.
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it.
yeah,
just
to
mention
briefly,,
and
this
is
as
much
to
hiv
is
as
to
staff..
Is
you
mentioned
briefly
at
the
beginning
of
your
presentation,
lisa,
that
the
there
was
some
interest
in
what
the
impacts
of
additional
a
to
use
would
be
on
on
middle
income,
housing
and
vulnerable
in
terms
of
additional
supply,,
but
also
in
terms
of
potentially
increasing
the
the
prices,
of.
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This
policy.
recommendations
were
somewhat
general,,
but
also
very
pointed,
and
putting
a
direction
of
you
know
the
state
and
kind
of
mandating
certain
requirements
that
more
housing
could
be
built
in
any
locations,
and
you
know,.
It's
just
gonna,
set
up
some
really
interesting
tension
between
this
call
he's.
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Already
had
you've
seen
the
reaction
from
like
the
cml.
and
the
colorado
association
of
counties..
You
know,
concern
that
local
control
will
be
taken
away
by
a
statewide
mandate.
I
think
that
there's
actually
opportunity
in
that
regard,
and
that
you
know
cool
we're
in
a
way
where
we're
being
given
a
call
to.
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Legacy,
effect
after
after
it's
implemented
and
stuff
like
that.,
but
complaints
should
be
all
that
flexibility..
There
are
never
supposed
to
be
regulatory.,
this
full
set
of
vision,
and
if
you're
setting
a
vision,,
you
know
you
can
have
it
be
like,.
This
would
be
great,
too,
and
this
would
be
great,
and
everything..
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serve
additional
units
that
can't
happen.,
so
my
point
was
more
that
we
could
do
it,
but
it's
a
little
more
longer
term
effort,,
like
there's
a
lot
of
effort.
That's
gonna
have
to
go
into
assessing
all
these
different
areas
of
the
city
about
how
the
infrastructure
was
built
and
whether
it
needs
to
be
upgraded.
So.
I
I'm
reading
every
night-
I
I
don't
know.,
I
don't
feel
like
I'm
an
expert
in
zoning..
I
wanna.
I
wanna
read
about
zoning.
and
so
I'm
committed
to
reading
about
it,
for
whatever,
whatever
suggestions
people
might
have
about
policy
books,,
I'm
I'm
alliers.
The
entry
point
for
me
is:
I
heard
a
podcast.
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Was
this
whole
eightyu
conversation,,
because
we've
had
it
many,
many,,
many,,
many,
many
times,
previous,,
too.,
right.,
and
so
with
the
rover
hit
the
road
today,.
We
can
really
kind
of
focus
on
those
things.,
and
so
I
think
anything
that
can
kind
of
help
us
narrow
down
that
focus
like
in
towards
the
20.
second,.
You
know.