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So
lynn
put
had
put
a
note
in
q
a
that
she's
also
participating
in
crap.
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F
I
don't
see
any
other
participants
who
would
like
to
participate
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
B
We
we
have,
we
have
two
different
community
participation
items
tonight.
One
is
the
public.
B
Comment
that
we
just
had
and
then
there's
actually
we
we
invited
individuals.
B
B
Familiar
with
with
that
grant
making
and
we
invited
people
to
attend
this
meeting.
B
B
Attend
this
meeting
for
applications
and
reports
is
anybody
in
attendance
to
get
that
input.
C
Not
at
the
moment
we
did
have
one
person
who
was
said
she
wanted
to
come,
so
she.
C
Might
yet
we
do
have
a
a
little
staff
presentation
to
share
the
survey
results.
A
C
C
C
C
So
one
of
our
last,
the
items
that
we
shared
with
you
back
in
september
was
that
we
would.
C
C
C
We
get
their
input
and,
as
part
of
that
process,
we
developed
a
survey
very
short
online
survey
in.
C
Have
in
our
files
for
organizations
that
receive
funding
through
the
human
relations
fund
from.
C
Have
a
deadline
that
enabled
us
to
provide
some
information
to
you.
The
other
thing
I'll
say.
C
C
Contact
information
either
if
they
wanted
to
come
to
the
meeting
tonight
or
if
they
just
wanted.
C
C
So
this
is
a
very
busy
chart.
You
may
not
be
able
to
see
all
of
it,
so
I'll
kind
of
walk
through.
C
But
the
first
set
of
questions
were
just
about
the
grant
application
process,
and
so
we
asked.
C
People
said
they
agreed
with
that.
That's
the
long
kind
of
blue
bar
at
the
top
christine.
G
Hi,
I'm
just
wondering
the
x-axis
is
that
the
number
of
respondents
or
is
it
is
that
right.
F
Turn
around
of
of
surveys,
given
the
the
number
of
services
that
we
send
out
and
yes,
seven
people.
F
G
C
Attach
it
to
an
email
that
is
the
way
that
we
have
been
collecting
applications
through.
C
But
more
of
them
are
actually
so
there
were
some
that
were
neutral.
That's
the.
C
Kind
of
longest
bar
there
at
five
four
people
actually
said
they
strongly
disagree.
C
C
A
pretty
clear
preference
that
people,
who
at
least
the
people
who
responded,
would
much.
C
Know
so
it's
a
little
all
over
the
map
and
the
rest
of
the
responses
are
a
little
more.
C
People
saying
they
disagree
with
that,
so
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
I
think
for
for.
C
Ingrid-
and
I
that's
a
takeaway
here-
is
that
you
know
where,
where
there's
the
most
agreement.
C
Like
to
have
an
online
form
process
as
to
whether
or
not
the
reporting
is
a
combination.
C
C
You
know
report
if
we
decide
to
do
that.
Maybe
that's
not
a
part
of
a
long
meeting
right
if
we.
C
Change
other
parts
of
the
process
that
could
be
very,
very
efficient
and
you
know
not
encroach.
C
On
the
hrc's
time
and
not
have
grantees
in
a
position
of
you
know,
coming
into
a
meeting.
C
C
C
Another
deadline,
so
there
too,
what
we're
seeing
is
actually
it's
it's.
It's
not
that.
C
Different
responses
to
to
those
questions,
except
that
for
keeping
it
the
way
we
have
now.
C
C
C
C
And
that
is
just
good
information
for
us
to
have.
Are
there
things
that
we
can
streamline.
C
Piece,
we
also
just
had
a
series
of
questions
about
what
would
what
types
of
information.
C
Apply
and
this
this
set
of
question
was
kind
of
a
chuckle
that
applies
so
your
question
earlier.
C
Christine
about
what
those
numbers
represent,
it
is
the
number
of
responses
you
know
kind
of
given.
C
But
it's
about,
but
people
can
choose
more
than
one.
So
here
too,
is
just
really
good
information.
C
C
C
Worth
the
time,
so
it
clearly
just
shows
that
you
know
the
you
know
frequently
asked
questions.
C
You
know
making
information
available
bilingual,
making
sure
that
we
have
that
staff.
Those
staff.
C
Surveys
yet
today,
and
so
ingrid
didn't
have
a
huge
ton
of
time
to
kind
of
compile
the
comments.
But.
C
We'll
definitely
have
a
look
at
those
and
be
able
to
share
some
information
about
that
as
well.
C
So,
let's
see,
let
me
stop
screen
sharing
there
and
see
if
you
all,
commissioners.
B
I
want
to
say
thanks
for
doing
this
outreach
to
the
grant
recipients-
it's
really
nice
to
know
how.
B
And
and
that's
a
really
good
turnout,
that's
the
other
thing.
I'd
say.
C
Any
other
comments
christine
I
just
I
just
had
a
question
and
also
I
just
I
want
to
echo.
G
G
Ingrid,
if
just
based
on
some
of
the
comments
that
you've
read,
even
though
you
don't
have
it
as.
F
That's
the
general
sense,
I
think
you
know.
Most
of
these
organizations
are
very
small.
C
Unmute
elizabeth,
any
other
questions.
C
So
we
will
be
sure
to
follow
up
with
her
and
then
our
plan
is
to
just
work
at.
C
So
they
can
see
you
and
and
say
hi,
but
we'll
bring
back
some
recommendations
at
that
time
and.
C
C
Decide
that
we
want
to
just
have
two
funding
deadlines
per
year.
We
would
have
some
time.
C
C
G
Wanted
to
add
one
comment
which,
if
that
of
your
as
you're
putting
together
that
proposal,.
G
And
just
wondering
historically,
if
the
timing
of
when
their
window
opens
and
when
they
get
it
in.
G
C
C
Of
branch
off
in
different
ways
that
can
be
a
lot
easier
for
anybody,
who's
applying
or
reviewing.
C
If
they
are
different,
depending
on
what
exactly
they're
looking
for
funding.
C
B
Thank
you,
elizabeth
and
and
ingrid
for
all
of
your
work
on
that.
But
it's
really
nice
to
hear.
B
Back
from
people,
and
so
we
are
on
billy
well,
we
have
an
item
for
commissioners
and
staff.
B
Response
to
our
the
open,
comet
and
public
comment
that
we
that
we
just
did,
and
I
actually
I.
C
I
actually
would
want
another
colleague
to
to
get
back
on
those
details,
because
I.
C
Inaccurate
information,
but
we
can,
I
can
commit,
we
can
get
back
to
you
in
writing
just
by
email.
C
B
B
Schwartz
is
here,
and
we
have,
I
believe,
it's
two
discussion,
information
items
that
have
staff.
C
B
B
Program
plan
who
I
believe,
I
believe,
based
on
what
I
can
see,
that
that's
that's
the
staff
member.
B
Who's
not
here
yet,
and
then
we
have
item
roman
numeral,
six
b,
which
is
the
alternative
response.
B
Model
that
wendy's
here
to
talk
about
and
then
as
a
current
roman
numeral
item,
five
we've
got.
B
Thanks
for
being
here,
wendy,
thank
you,
commissioner,
loberg
and.
H
Okay,
great,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
you
folks
know
who
I
am,
but
for
those
who
don't
my
name.
H
And
human
services-
and
so
I
work
with
ingrid
and
elizabeth
there
and
I
also
manage
some.
H
See
if
we
can
there,
we
go
you're,
seeing
the
the
opening
slide
right
now
looks
great
great
okay,.
H
H
Maybe
the
underlying
issue
behind
that
call
is
in
fact
not
criminal
or
not
major
medical.
H
H
In
the
middle
of
2020,
so
that's
just
a
couple
of
years
old
and
then
cahoots
in
eugene,
oregon.
H
To
star
or
cahoots-
and
I
was
here
a
month
or
two
ago
with
one
of
my
other
hats-
on
which.
H
That
so
what
we've
been
doing
for
since
early
in
the
year
is
we
have
a
city
team.
H
H
Might
look
like
in
boulder-
and
I
think
some
folks
might
be
wondering
you
know
about
police
being.
H
So
it
does
take
planning
with
police.
Even
if
it's
a
program
that
police
don't
respond
on.
H
This
concept
for
this
pilot
alternative
response
program
is
doing
some
initial
consulting
with.
H
One
of
the
things
that
I
like
to
talk
about
a
little
bit.
H
Is
what
we've
already
got
going
on
in
the
community?
That's
related
to
alternative
response.
H
H
H
H
H
Community
there
is
a
nurse
navigation
program
that
happens
through
9-1-1
in
partnership
with.
H
H
And
they
appear
to
have
a
a
medical
issue
that
might
not
require
an
ambulance
ride
or
a.
H
Resource
intensive
for
the
community,
we
have
our
homeless
outreach
team,
otherwise
known
as
the.
H
H
H
Into
the
community
and
serves
people
with
very
high
needs,
who
need
multiple
team
members
to.
H
So,
as
we
have
been
working
as
a
staff
team
to
develop
the
broad
strokes
of
what
a
pilot
might.
H
H
B
Thanks
wendy
yeah,
I
I
find
myself.
B
B
And
I
see
here
in
number
one
you're
talking
about
first
responder
time.
So
when.
B
You
talked
on
the
last
side
about
about
these
already
existing
services,
where,
like,
for
example,.
B
A
nurse
might
be
called
or
the
mobile
crisis
response
might
be
appropriate
if
there's
not
a.
H
More
appropriate
resource,
you
know
if,
if
it's
a
lower
level
issue,
you
know
perhaps
the
person.
H
H
H
Of
calls
but
but
yeah
there's
both
there's.
You
know
the
potential
to
you
know,
make
more.
H
Efficient
use
of
both
our
police
and
our
fire
personnel
time
as
well
as
some
service,
is
that.
H
And
I
think
we
were
on
about
goal
three
here.
We
left
off
cost
savings
from.
H
H
H
Like
star
and
cahoots,
and
that's
that
basic
community
response,
the
actual
response
to
the.
H
H
H
H
H
Some
of
the
response
characteristics
the
way
this
looks
is
again.
We'd
have
to
do
some.
H
Welfare
checks,
loitering
behavioral
checks
and
we
came
up
on
the
first
data
pass.
H
But
that's
kind
of
what
we
would
see
as
the
the
upper
estimate.
If
you
will
of
how
many.
H
Calls
potentially
this
team,
or
these
teams
or
other,
could
respond
to
over
the
course
of
the
year.
H
H
H
H
Department
and
fire
personnel
spend
their
time
on
and
is
it
less
on
certain
types
of
calls.
H
H
H
And
how
do
the
number
of
ambulance
rides?
Look
after
the
during
the
pilot
compared
to
pre-pilot.
H
H
Really
going
to
be
challenged
on
your
outcome,
because
every
response
program
is,
you
know,
is.
H
H
Some
work
to
get
the
right
data
with
the
right
protections
integrated
and
analyzed
enough
to.
H
H
And
isn't
working
and
then
another
issue
is
particularly
in
behavioral
health.
There's
a.
H
National
workforce
shortage-
and
that
is
even
more
acute
for
diverse
providers
like
if
you're.
H
H
Been
in
operation
since
1989.,
so
there's
good
news
and
there's
bad
news:
we're
not
alone,
but.
H
Study
session
december
8th
and
we're
going
to
be
giving
a
presentation
similar
to
this
to
to.
H
City
council
and
get
their
direction
on
really
proceeding
with
implementing
the
program
in
2023.
H
H
Because
they'll
certainly
be
impacted
by
this
program
and
then
setting
up
an
ongoing
process.
H
To
evaluate
outcomes
and
making
sure
we
get
that
equity
lens
in
there
and
that
client
feedback.
H
H
Does
the
commission
support
the
pilot
concept
as
it's
been
presented
and
do
commissioners.
A
B
Asked
specifically
one
critique
I've
read
about
star
in
particular:
is
that
a
really.
B
If,
if
you
know
these
are
the
these
are
the
methods
that
were
were
considering.
B
We
can
circle
back
to
me
lindsay.
Would
you
would
you
like
me
to
answer
your
your
question
or.
H
H
Percentages
that
you
just
mentioned
are
a
really
interesting
question,
because
the
you're
correct.
H
Calls
which,
like
I
said,
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
hit
once
we
once
those
calls
get
refined.
H
It
hangs
out
in
that
15
to
20
percent
range,
but
when
they
sort
through
what
police
would
respond.
H
To
it
comes
out
in
more
the
three
to
eight
percent
range
and
and
that's
partly
a
function
of
a.
H
H
Started
to
call
into
their
dispatch
for
services
that
that
they
would
not
have
called
in.
H
H
Percent
range
with
those
programs,
but
eugene
has
kind
of
the
unique
situation
of
essentially.
H
Just
said
made
sense:
it's
a
little
bit
complex
with
the
percentages,
but
if
that's
helpful
to
you.
B
That
was
that
was
informative
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
put
a
a
pin
in.
B
The
metric,
the
metric
thing
and
loop
back
to
talking
about.
B
Weird,
but
thank
you
wendy
and
I'm
gonna
hand
it
off
to
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
carlos.
D
H
I
I
apologize
for
this.
I
I
realized
midway
through
carlos's
comments
that
my
translation.
H
You
think
this
program
would
be
a
good
one,
but
please,
let
me
know
if
there's.
A
G
To
lindsay
and
then
and
then
all
I
can
pick
up
again,
I
also
want
to
echo
carlos
I.
I
am.
G
In
support
of
the
concept
of
this
pilot,
I
think
it's,
I
think,
any
any
way
we
can
can
explore.
G
Alternative
responses
that
are
perhaps
you
know
more
appropriate
to
what
the
situation.
G
G
One
of
the
challenges
being
the
lack
of
upstream
resources.
I
was
wondering
if.
H
Sure
so
I'll
start
with
your
first
question
christine
about
the
time
frame.
H
The
information
and
data
we
have
after
that
year
so
that
we
could
could
get
a
better
sense.
H
And
then
for
your
second
question
about
upstream
resources.
Unfortunately,
that's
a
long
list.
H
H
Homelessness
and
housing,
instability
and
really
what
most
information
shows
is
that
it's
going
to.
H
H
Etc,
issues
that
they
might
have
if
they're
unstably
housed.
You
know
maslow's
hierarchy
of.
H
Needs
we're
all
gonna
like
worry
about
that,
first
and
other
stuff
later
right.
Also,
substance
use.
H
Then
you
can
pretty
much.
You
know
start
by,
like
you
know,
looking
for
in
your
area
and
the.
H
H
H
In
terms
of
your
options
and
it
might
come
to
zero,
so
there's
a
lot
of
behavioral.
H
Yeah
star
and
cahoots,
I
would
call
very
similar.
I
mean
if
we
want
to
get
a
little.
H
Bit
weedier
there's
some
differences,
so,
for
example,
star
has
a
different
set.
H
H
H
But
that's
not
the
same
as
a
program.
That's
just
devoted
to
people
experiencing
homelessness.
H
Ones
that
are
like
exclusively
response
or
almost
exclusively,
I
guess
I
should
say.
B
First
is
one
that
I'm
familiar
with
in
sacramento
and
oakland.
H
But
we
have
our
direction
from
city.
Council
has
been
focused
on
implementing.
H
A
program
more
in
the
star
cahoots
model
and
the,
I
would
say
the
majority
of
community.
H
Feedback
that
I
have
seen
will
specifically
reference
one
of
those
two
programs,
or
both.
H
But
first
for
cities
our
size,
I,
what
I
have
not
seen
is
a
lot
that
are
broad-based,
which.
H
Those
you
know
police
calls
right
now,
so
we
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
other
models
for
cities.
H
Are
size
that
aren't
similar
to
cahoots
or
similar
to
other
things
that
we
already
have.
G
Great
thanks
and
if
it's
okay,
I
have
another
question,
you
know
we
last
month
we.
G
One
of
the
questions
I
have
is
to
what
extent
what
extent
we
think
that
this
may
play
into
that.
H
Yeah,
so
one
thing
I'll
note
is
that
there
was
some
funding
passed
in
the
2023
budget
for.
H
H
Budget
and
the
projections
for
the
percentage
of
of
police
calls
we,
you
know
we
would
expect.
H
You
know
to
our
earlier
conversation
to
to
hit,
probably
in
that
three
to
five
percent
range,
like.
H
Other
programs,
and
but
it
seems
like
the
real
question
you're
asking
has
to
do
with
you
know.
H
H
Transport
costs
if
people
are
evaluated
and
assisted
with
different
resources
on
the
front
end.
H
Another
another
option
is,
you
know,
we
talked
about
reallocation
in
some
of
my
slides.
I.
H
Those
prevention,
oriented
community
partnerships
and
really
that
best
practices
in
policing.
H
H
To
call
to
call
in
a
react
reactionary
way,
and
so
this
is
a
long
way
christine
of
saying.
H
B
Thinking
about
dispatch
and
how
these
these
calls
are
routed
and
who
responds
cool
designs.
B
That
decision
making
tree-
oh
how's,
that
determined
yes,
so
so
that
is
going
to
be
a
partnership.
H
H
Some
adjustment
as
we
go
on
and
we
learn,
but
initially
it
would
be
us
working
together.
B
Wendy,
I'm
I'm
wondering,
can
we
see
your
questions
slide
again
or.
B
Your
prompting
slide
to
us,
please
yeah,
absolutely
let
me
foreign.
G
Just
following
up
on
that,
could
we
actually
see
the
slide
with
the
goals
again?
Absolutely,
let
me.
H
Absolutely
everybody
ready
to
go
on
to
that
one,
or
does
anyone
need
more
time
with
the
goals.
I
B
B
You
know
just
giving
others
that
that
time
too
and
curious,
if,
if
you.
J
Where
a
call
is
rerouted
or
diverted,
but
the
police
are
necessary
and
how
would
you
proceed
in.
J
That
way
in
that
situation,
yeah,
so
the
way
they
describe
this
in
other
programs
is
that.
J
That
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I
I
brought
that
up,
because
I
worked
as
a
resident
advisor
at
cu
and
I.
J
Noticed
a
lot
of
the
as
a
as
an
ra.
The
students
would
really
downplay
the
situation
because
they.
J
J
H
Sense
of
the
call
really
well
honed
so
that
they
would
be
able
to
to
kind
of
sess
out
when.
H
Maybe
a
situation
like
that
was
happening
and
you
know
I
think
in
both
eugene
and
denver.
I
Steve,
I
guess
one
one
last
question
that
I
have
is.
G
G
H
H
Are
suggesting
from
the
get-go
building
in
like
that
intensive
case
management
capability.
H
And
like
even
a
program
like
cahoots,
for
instance,
you
know
one
of
their
they're.
H
Being
evaluated
now,
after
all
these
years,
and
one
of
the
comments
from
the
evaluators
in.
H
H
And
you
know
that
kind
of
end
user
feedback
isn't
always
easy
to
get
some.
Sometimes
people.
H
H
B
I
think
I'll
do
some
facilitator
things
first,
before
I
talk
more,
does
anybody
have.
B
Do
any
of
the
commissioners
have
input
on
these
metrics.
B
B
You
know
offer
some
more
good
suggestions.
I
I
I
heard
what
you
said
earlier
about.
B
B
Dispatch
itself
and
how
how
those
decisions
are
made
and
and
and
who,
who
they're
made
by.
B
Of
the
metrics,
where
I
you
know,
I'm
trying
to
focus
the
conversation
right
now.
H
Thanks
lindsay
and
another
thing,
while
we're
on
this
slide
that
I
should
have
mentioned
earlier.
H
Because
some
of
them
are
things
that
are
difficult
to
measure.
Some
of
them
are
things
that.
H
Require
either
self-reporting
by
people
who
maybe
don't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking.
H
H
Best
situation
at
the
time
and
some
of
them
really
require
being
able
to
share
a
lot
of.
H
Information
that
has
to
do
with
health
care
and
and
and
that's
sometimes
easier
said
than
done.
H
Agreements
get
releases
of
information,
there's
there's
still
a
lot
of
complexity.
There.
H
Something
based
on
what
is
or
isn't
immediately
available.
We
can
do
that,
but.
H
But
we
really
we're
aiming
high
and
we're
aiming
higher
than
star
and
cahoots.
Frankly,.
B
B
I
have
I
have
one
more,
thank
you
for
that
wendy
and
I
have
one
I
have
I
I
this.
B
B
Curious
is
this
client
satisfaction
with
outcome
and
ability
to
manage
further
issues.
B
B
They
got
foreign.
B
Health,
professional,
I
think
I
think
this
is
another
branch,
but
were
you
able
to
speak
with.
B
Someone
were
you
able
to
speak
with
someone.
Were
you
able
to
speak
with
someone
who
speaks
the
language
you
speak?
I
think
it's
another
really
critical
thing.
H
Then
you
know,
then,
that's
still
not
client
satisfaction
with
the
service
right
right
right.
B
B
Will
be
able
to
like
meet
the
like,
like
linguistic
and
cultural
needs
of
the
people,
they're
interacting
with.
H
Yeah
there
are,
and
that
has
that's
a
goal
for
us
actually
for
all
of
our
hiring,
including.
H
Who
do
not
identify
as
white
or
do
not
identify
as
white?
Only
and
so
we're
really
working
on.
H
Diversifying
a
lot
of
our
staffing
and
this
program
would
be
no
different.
You
know
we
want.
H
To
do
as
much
as
possible
to
you
know
to
have
staff
that
really
need
the
needs
in
the
community.
B
Or
goals
tree,
I
think
we
already
moved
down
from
okay,
then
wendy.
Could
you.
B
For
this
work,
but
circling
back
to
does
hrc
support
does
hrc
support
the
pilot
concept.
I
B
Modifications
and
then
and
that's
one
bucket
and
then
I'd
also
like
I.
I
recognize
this
as.
B
Some
and
maybe
I'm
a
lone
person
here
right,
but
I'm
curious
about
the
role
of
hrc,
because
I
heard.
B
Other
models
that
exist
and
I'm
curious
about,
because
I
know
that
there
are
some
limitations
for.
B
Our
charge
right
to
we
can
make
recommendations
to
city
council
and
city
council
directs.
The.
B
B
Presentation
from
wendy
on
exactly
what
you
asked
wendy
to
do,
and
we
actually
hope,
like.
B
You
could
consider
some
other
models
too
and
I'm
just
gonna.
Let
that
sit
for
a
minute.
G
G
I'm
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
the
concept
of
the
pilot,
but
I
also
agree
with
lindsay's
line.
G
Of
questioning
just
sort
of
it
would
be
helpful
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
H
I
mean
we,
certainly
we
don't
want
to
be
unnecessarily
limited.
If
you
will,
I
mean.
H
And
I
think,
like
what
we
try
to
do
is
be
kind
of
goal.
Oriented
right,
because.
H
It's
less
about
the
you
know
the
program.
If
you
will
like
we
want
this
model
of
program
or.
H
That
program,
and
so
my
suggestion
would
be,
if
I
I
heard
lindsay-
mention
mental
health
first
in.
H
San
francisco
and
I
think
one
nice
path
forward,
depending
on
the
the
opinion
of
the
commission.
H
Would
be
that
if
you
folks
want
to
give
me
your
suggestions
for
what
other
things
you're
you're.
H
Interested
in
why,
then
I
could
take
that
back
to
the
team,
the
you
know,
the
team.
That's
working.
H
On
this,
the
three
department
team
in
the
city
and-
and
we
can
you
know
we
can
discuss
like
what's.
H
Feasible-
and
you
know
what
could
look
into
more-
there
might
be
some
ideas
that
we
can
include
in.
H
H
H
H
We,
you
know,
and
we
can
circle
back
to
you
because
again
we're
we're
interested
in.
C
Foreign
just
real
fast,
I
agree
with
wendy.
I
think
you
shared
earlier
wendy
is
going
to
be.
C
This
month
and
and
that
memo
is
a
good,
you
know,
as
as
you
all
know,
we've
got
to
provide
memos
to.
C
Enable
you
to
have
some
kind
of
conversation,
even
in
that
way
with
city
council
as
well.
So
I.
C
Would
just
echo
wendy's
suggestion
that
you
know
either
directly
or
ingrid,
and
I
can
certainly.
C
Help
gather
comments
and
questions
any
others
from
other
than
the
notes
we're
taking
tonight.
B
So,
to
summarize,
what
I'm
hearing
you
say:
you're
you're,
looking
for
more
input
about.
B
Know
about
when
you
would
need
that
in
order
to
prepare
sure.
So
I
have
I've
got
a
deadline.
H
H
In
then,
we
would
need
a
couple
weeks
in
advance
of
that
to
be
able
to
to
look
into
the
information.
H
And
really
have
a
conversation
about
you
know.
Does
that
change
our
staff
recommendation.
B
Wendy,
okay,
so
there's
some
follow-up
with
wendy
on
our
action
items
for.
B
Those
of
us
who
who
it
sounds
like
I
have
some
input
and
anybody
else
who
has
any
input.
B
Presenting
the
the
proposal
and
the
research
that
you've
done
to
us,
we
really
appreciate.
H
H
Pilot
concept,
with
all
of
you
and
absolutely
look
forward
to
getting
you
know
any
further
input.
H
Or
comments
because
I
really
I
want
to
support
commissioners
as
we're
all
really
working.
H
Together
for
the
city
here,
foreign
thanks
wendy,
thank
you.
So
much
have
a
great
evening.
Everyone.
B
B
C
Actually,
don't
have
samantha
bromberg
here,
but
we
do
have
the
questions
that
she
posed
in.
C
The
memo
that
were
in
the
packet,
so
we
thank
you
ingrid,
we'll
just
kind
of
screen,
share.
C
B
B
B
Get
through
and
I
skimmed
a
lot
of
it
and
one
thing
that
felt
useful
was
having
the.
B
Specifically
is
about
this
and
that's
on
page
50
of
not
our
agenda,
but
then
I
think
it's.
B
Like
the
number
50
on
on
the
packet,
which
is
really
just
like
the
number
for
this
report,.
B
This,
or
would
it
be
beneficial
for
you
to
spend
some
more
time.
B
Looking
over
looking
over
the
either
the
report
or.
G
G
J
A
B
It
would
be
best
to
follow
up
with
staff
over
email.
Elizabeth
am
I
am
I
right
about
that.
C
That's
fine,
that's
totally
fine.
We
can
we
can
let
let
our
colleague
know
that
you
just
all.
C
Just
be
an
email
exchange,
please
just
let
ingrid
and
I
know
what
you'd
like
communicated.
B
It
I
the
way
I
engaged
with
this,
because
I
I
did
skim
it
first
and
then
I
saw
the
racial.
B
B
Was
the
most
relevant
thing
to
our
work
and
I'm
curious
if,
like
staff.
B
I
don't
know
maybe
like
jump
in
if
you
think,
like.
Oh,
that's
a
reckless
approach,
but
for
me
it.
B
Just
seemed
like
a
time
efficient
approach,
and
I
I
feel
like
it.
It
helped
me
like.
B
A
dense
report
and
elizabeth:
what's
can,
do
you
know,
do
you
know
anything
about
our.
B
Timing
yeah,
the
timing
is
actually
pretty
short,
so
I
mean,
I
think,
obviously.
C
They'll
would
speak
for
themselves,
but
I
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
that
staff
would
welcome.
C
Any
input
any
and
all
input
from
the
hrc
for
the
questions
in
the
memo,
and
it's
not
a
bad
idea.
C
To
just
focus
on
that
you
know
racial
equity
instrument.
If
that
really
kind
of
helps,
you.
C
And
you
know
kind
of:
do
it
reverse
in
that
way?
If
that's,
if
that
works
for
you
please
please
do.
C
We,
I
believe,
samantha,
probably
I'm
not
sure
exactly
which
date
would
have
to
submit
it.
This.
C
Week,
usually
on
a
thursday,
so
I
would
suggest
that
if,
if
other
commissioners
do
have.
C
B
Good,
I
think
we're
good
on
that
item
right
and
then
we
have
a
staff
update
in
sixth
discussion
or.
B
Roman
numeral
six
discussion,
informational
items,
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
just
wrap
up
roman.
B
Timing
sure-
and
I
can
make
this
pretty
brief-
I
just
have
one
slide
to
share
and
I'll
just
say.
C
Well,
I'm
bringing
it
up
any
any
questions
that
you
have
afterward,
we'll
obviously
can
send.
C
This
out
in
the
send
the
slides
out
as
an
email
afterward.
Let
me
just
go
to
the
right
page.
C
So
just
a
couple
of
comments:
citywide
christine
you
mentioned
earlier
that
the
city
about
the
2023.
C
Budget,
it
did
pass
at
the
city
council
meeting
last
week
and
so
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know.
C
Looks
like
you're,
obviously
more
than
welcome
to
watch
the
city
council
meeting
the
link
that.
C
C
C
Are
telling
some
actual
more
of
a
story,
some
narrative
about
out
what
the
projects
are,
what.
C
Are
some
new
you
know
items
to
highlight,
etc?
So
we
encourage
you
to
have
a
look
and
if.
C
More
than
happy
to
do
that,
we
can
also
just
specifically
highlight
some
elements
of
the
hhs.
C
Or
the
housing
human
services
budget
or
any
of
it,
so
please,
just
again,
let
let
me
know
if
that's.
C
Be
interested
in
at
the
city
council
meeting
coming
up
this
week
there
has
been
a
subgroup.
C
Of
city
staff,
member
and
and
boarding
commission
members
across
boards
and
commissions.
C
And
jh
as
well
that
this
is
a
process
that
clay
had
provided
some
input
on.
Ingrid
has.
C
Provided
some
input
onto
the
citywide
team
so
anyway,
in
this
slide,
what
you'll
receive
is.
C
C
C
And
then
a
couple
of
other
things
just
some
key
hhs
or
housing
and
human
services
issues.
C
C
From
city
council
on
that,
it
is
an
issue
again
we're
just
talking
about
kind
of
the
complexities.
C
C
Or
information
about,
please
let
us
know,
I
sent
a
note
out
to
our
hrc
grantees.
C
And
I
would
just
really
encourage
any
of
you
that
want
to
take
part
in
any
of
those
trainings.
C
More
than
happy
to
have
some
other
discussion
and
get
input
on
on
these
from
from
the
hrc,
we're.
C
Moving
forward
and
within
our
department
and
as
a
part
of
the
city
with
making
recommendations.
C
C
Have
several
investments
that
we're
already
making
to
help
people
who
are
low
income?
Who.
C
C
Supporting
through
these
arpa
funds,
we're
going
to
be
presenting
on
an
update
on
all
of
that
to.
B
Really
excited
about
guaranteeing
income
pilot
project
cool
to
hear
about
that,
oh
christine!
So.
C
That's
great,
we
actually
yeah,
so
the
dates
that
we
have.
Thank
you
ingrid.
C
Before
but
still
relatively
close,
so
maybe
we
can
work
off
outside
of
the
meeting
just
to
either.
C
D
C
Carlos
is
going
as
a
it's
another
arpa
or
american
rescue
plan
act,
project
that
will
focus
on.
C
Second
mortgages:
a
kind
of
a
revolving
fund
that
community
members,
primarily
in
mobile
home.
C
Community
members
that
were
connecting
with
just
to
get
similarly
like
here's
the
project.
C
C
Well,
that's
all
we
had
for
the
update.
Actually
you
know
ingrid
I'll
just
say
really
quickly
has.
C
Been
doing
so
much,
including
having
gone
to
some
conferences
and
meetings
ingrid,
we
should.
C
Have
I
should
have
thought
to
have
this
on
here
too,
on
immigration
and
maybe,
if
there's
time.
B
I
think
that
would
be
the
right.
I
think
that
would
be
the
right
time
ingrid,
because
I
imagine
that.
B
Already
so
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
this
would
be
a
good
time
very
fallen
is
not
is.
F
It's
actually
not
extensive.
It
was
interesting
to
attend
last
week
two
weeks
ago,.
F
Time
flies
by
to
a
round
table
on
immigration
and
refugees;
matters
where
municipalities
across.
F
The
the
front
range
met
in
denver
and
there
was
a
very
clear
desire
for
municipalities
to
really.
F
Where
are
we
at
in
regard
to
public
charge
and
also
daca
status
and
refugees
influx?
So.
F
Should
also
need
to
be
messaging
should
be
consistent
across
municipalities
to
avoid.
F
Creating
strategies
to
support
communities
will
be
crucial,
and
then
there
were
some.
F
Really
positive
changes
to
public
charge
that
so
creating
strategies
to
communicate
that.
F
To
the
community
that
are
streamlined
is
ideal,
collaborations
was
highlighted
too,
so
it
was.
F
F
Connected
with
those
who
are
in
alignment
with
elevating
and
supporting
all
communities.
G
Ingrid,
I
just
I
just
I
have
a
question
if
I
may,
thanks
for
that
report,
it
sounds
super
fascinating.
G
And
I
kind
of
wish
I
could
have
gone
with
you,
I'm
just
I'm
just
curious
because
in
the.
G
Last
12
months,
14
months
or
so,
there
have
been
like
two
two
really
large
global
events
that
have.
G
G
G
G
That
I
think
people
didn't
necessarily
anticipate
and
were
surprising
when
they
happened.
F
Right
and
I
have
to
say
christine,
that
was
not
necessarily
spoken
that
way.
As
I
said,
a
lot
of.
F
F
You're
doing
what
what's
happening
here
and
so
having
that
cross
information
was
was
great.
F
F
F
G
I
don't
know,
that's
just
super
interesting.
I
was
just
very
curious,
but
but
it's
nice
to.
G
Hear
that
that
others
are
looking
to
us
to
see
what
they
could
be
doing
yeah
and
there
was
more.
F
F
And
and
really
build
a
strong
foundation
to
better
serve
communities.
Yeah
and
I'm
happy.
C
We
do
also
provide,
as
I
think
you
all
know,
funding
to
organizations
that
provide
support
for
our.
C
Immigrant
community
members
and
yeah
have
have
sought
their
advice
and
guidance
and.
C
B
Might
be
really
critical
for
our
next
item
because
christine
was
really
leading
that
item
up.
B
Okay,
I'm
actually
I'm
going
to
move
us
on
to
roman
numeral
seven
and
then
we're
going
to.
B
B
Back
now
to
roman
numeral
number
five
action,
our
only
action
item
on
the
election
timing
letter.
B
That
christine
shared
with
you
all
and
that
we
need
to
decide
tonight
whether
or
not
to
send.
B
B
G
All
received
messages
from
me
late
last
week
with
the
draft
of
of
the
letter
and.
G
Have
I
I'm
I'm
not
deeply
familiar
with
the
process
around
what
we
need
to
do
also,
I
think.
G
Really
know
what
the
process
is,
so
I
guess
two
things
one,
you
know.
Is
there
further
feedback.
G
And
then
two
elizabeth
and
ingrid
I
just
I
don't
know
what
the
process
is
around
this.
C
I
think
once
you've
decided
on
what
a
final
on
the
final
letter
that
week
as
staff
can.
C
Forwarding
and
yeah,
you
know
kind
of
an
official
on
be
email
on
behalf
of
the
hrc,
so
got
it.
G
G
City
council
or
encourage
city
council
to
do
so,
so
this
is
regarding
measure
2e,
which
will.
G
Which
is
on
the
ballot
right
now
for
the
election,
that
is,
that
is
happening
right
now.
Hopefully,.
G
G
In
this
letter
we've
we've
drafted,
we
explained
the
reasons
why,
namely
that
it
will
increase
voter.
G
Just
one
one
other
question
around
the
process.
Also,
I
we
have
a
spanish
translation
and
I
had.
G
Asked
I
know
someone
who
is
a
spanish
teacher
who
went
through
and
cleaned
up
the
translation.
G
And
I
hope
it
is
considered
a
sufficient
translation.
I
guess
that's
also
a
question.
G
C
We
can't
do
sorry,
okay,
so
hopefully,
hopefully
it
was
a
good
translation
and-
and
so
I,
I
guess.
G
G
Want
to
discuss
about
this
or
provide
any
additional
edits
that
we
could
do
or
not.
B
Mine
is
a
really
fine
point,
just
kind
of
like
piece
of
historical
knowledge.
I'd
like
to.
B
In
advancing
non-citizen
voting,
so
my
I
have
a
fine
point
suggestion
to
just
replace.
B
G
Say
citizens
and
residents,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
we've
addressed
all
those
fine
points.
G
Re-Translate
it
so
that
could
slow
us
down
a
couple
days,
and
so
my
feeling
is
that.
G
Two
or
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
city
council
did
take
the
step
to
endorse
certain
county
measures.
G
B
Ever
response,
I'm
fine
with
that.
Thank
you
for
thank
you
for
integrating
my
my
concerns.
B
Like
I
think,
even
if
something's
unlikely
to
happen
in
general,
you
know
it's
important
to.
G
I
just
want
to
note
for
audio
that
ficker
wrote
in
the
chat
that
I
accidentally
misspelled
her.
G
D
B
Thank
you,
gage,
okay,
great
so
pen,
so
petting,
this
spelling
change
that
we
talked
about.
B
B
To
say,
thanks
for
all
your
work
on
this
letter,
I
could
tell
it's
really
thoroughly
researched.
B
Okay
and
then
we
are
on
one
of
our
last
items,
the
framework
for
discussion.
B
What
that
might
look
like
what
the
impacts
of
that
would
be
both
like
intended
and
unintended.
B
Joined
the
commission
and,
along
with
some
other
items,
we
we
were
having
these
conversations
and.
B
To
to
know
more
and
then
on
the
city
end,
there
was
there
was
like
a
sense
of
like
of
like.
B
Conversations
have
been
based
for
the
last
several
months
and
that's
where
we're
at
right
now,
but.
B
We
wanted
to
pick
up
this
item
because
it
was
one
important
one
left
and
hanging
during
some
of.
B
Those
transitions,
so
that
kind
of
just
brings
us
up
to
speed.
On
the
background
to
what
brings.
B
Us
to
this
moment
right
now,
does
anyone
have
anything
really
just
to
add
as
far
as
context.
B
Okay,
in
the
interest
of
time
I'm
going
to
move
on
and
oh
elizabeth,
I
saw
you.
C
You
just
shared
lindsay
if
that's
helpful,
yeah
I'd
love
to
kind
of
get
some
next.
C
C
In
making
sure
you
all
follow
through
on
this
issue,
if
it's
something
of
interest
and
in
a
way.
C
That
is
kind
of
mind
that
part
of
that
context
is
mindful
of
the
you
know.
What
else
is
kind.
C
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
that
we
think
is
really
was
really
helpful.
I
think
you
you
all.
C
Indicated
it
was
was
why
we
had
lucas
markley
come
to
the
retreat
and
just
kind
of
give
a
very.
C
C
C
C
C
Shared
their
perspective
and-
and
you
know
their
longer
history
in
the
role
and
why.
C
And
identities,
less
so
on
one's
circumstance
or
situation.
So
again
that
may
be
just.
C
On
you
know
kind
of
hearing
from
some
of
that
background,
maybe
more
than
what
has
been
so.
C
Far
or
revisiting
that
for
new
commissioners
maybe
may
be
helpful
in
terms
of
outcomes
having
some.
C
C
Lindsay
and
christine
and
jage,
but
really
helpful
for
us
to
know,
is
there?
Is
there
a
problem.
C
C
C
Earlier
and
others
who
have
reviewed
the
amps
documents
that
what
was
really
helpful
is.
C
C
C
Couple
of
key
questions
and
they
are
who
would
benefit
from
a
change,
a
policy,
a
project,
a.
C
C
C
C
So
that's
just
kind
of
a
way,
one
again
additional
way
to
kind
of
think
about
this.
C
Whatever
guidance,
we
can
to
just
have
a
really
productive
and
focused
conversation,
so.
C
Issues
that
or
next
steps
that
you'd
like
for
us
to
to
consider
take
on.
B
B
B
So
I
I
am
I
I
would
I
I
have
some
thoughts
on
those
specific
props
that
that
were
asked.
B
B
Commissioner
fugal
art
shared
with
us
wasn't
was
an
article,
so
maybe
I
could
share
that
article.
B
B
Thought
much
about
this
issue
for
some
months
now
could
re-familiarize
themselves
with
their
the.
B
C
Like
months
ago
and
I'll
have
to
check
with
our
city
attorney's
office,
just
because
there
is.
C
An
active
litigation
that
involves
the
aclu
and
other
community
members
on
homelessness.
We.
C
That
that's
the
case,
but
I
absolutely
would
need
to
check
on
that.
But
I
think
in
terms
of
just.
C
C
C
C
Kind
of
work
through
the
questions
that
you
that
you
may
have,
and
so
I
think
we
can.
B
Considering
a
similar,
that's,
why
that's
why
it
came
up
in
the
conversation
there
was.
There
were.
B
Some
municipalities
considering
a
similar
move
and
I
think,
still
in
the
considering
phase.
C
C
With
lindsay
and
with
carlos,
to
talk
about
the
agenda
for
november,
and
if
this
is
one.
C
Of
the
things
that
might
that
you
might
want
to
talk
about
then
really
kind
of
put
together.
C
Some
options
for
that,
those
those
people
to
help
kind
of
share
their
perspectives.
C
C
The
meantime
feel
free,
and
I
can
certainly
check
in
on
the
issue
if
there
is
one.
B
Okay,
so
then
I
think
we
I
got,
I
got
thumbs
up.
I
I
was
just
I
didn't
see.
B
Your
thumbs
up,
jh
or
here
verbal
from
you
do
you
do.
You
feel
good
moving
forward.
B
Like
earlier
on
in
the
meeting
checking
in
with
with
potential
attendees
pending.
A
C
I
B
B
Difficulties-
and
that
brings
us
to
roman
numeral-
eight,
which
is
updates
from
commissioners.
K
K
D
B
C
People
really
heard
and
appreciated
what
he
shared.
There
is
another
woman
on
the
panel
who.
C
Also
was
very
instrumental
in
organizing
her
mobile
home
community
to
get
what
they
needed.
C
In
terms
of
safe
and
affordable
housing
and
carlos-
and
I
thought
they
they
are
their.
C
B
I
attended
some
of
the
indigenous
people's
day
events.
I
really
enjoyed.
B
For
other
items,
remember
other
items,
an
ambiguous
item.
It's
if
something
something
came
up
during.
B
This
is
where
staff
shares
their
action
items
with
the
level
of
specificity.
They
choose.
C
There
are
several
milestones
coming
up
in
the
next
several
city
council
meetings
in
november
and.
C
December,
including
on
the
alternative
response
program
that
wendy
discussed
and
so
we'll
again.
C
Projects-
several
of
you
are
really
interested
in
hearing
more
about
that,
potentially
other.
C
C
Meeting
on
the
funding
program
change,
I
think
that's
got
it
ingrid
anything
else
on
our
deck.
F
The
only
missing
item
is
dates
for
november
and
december
hrc
meeting.
F
No,
that
is
correct
december.
I
mean
november
november
4th.
B
B
Highlight
on
those
deadlines,
and
thank
you
all
thank
you
all
so
much
for.
B
We
hope
you
have
a
lovely
rest.
Your
night,
thanks
for
being
here.