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Osbt:
osbt:
under
the
second
sense.
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Caroline
miller:,
I
so
move
to
approve
the
minutes
with
corrections.
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Osbt:
the
osbt:
item
for
a
is
questions
or
discussion
about
the
written
information
item,,
which
is,
this
second
face
to
adjustment
for
the
os
and
the
two
thousand
and
twenty-three
budget.
F
Osbt:
but
so
the
private,,
the
private
funds
are
given
to
us.
I
Osbt:
um,
yes,,
you
do.,
so
on
the
phone,
financial,
on
the
revenue
line..
We
have
it
broken
out
in
terms
of
grants,
which
is
made
up
of
federal
and
state
passed
through,
that
we
have
miscellaneous
revenue,,
which
has
the
miscellaneous
contributions
and
donations,,
and
so
we
can.
I
I
Osbt:,
and
so
within
that
miscellaneous
revenues
category,,
there
would
be
an
object
line
from
our
financial
system
that
says
contributions
to
donations
with
a
dollar
amount..
We
haven't
gone
as
far
as
breaking
that
down
by
um,,
each
individual
donation,
or
anything
that
we've
gotten,.
But
it's
it's
rolled
up
into
a
category.
I
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It's
all
of
our
carry
over
our
grant
revenue
that
we've
collected,
and
we
don't
typically
project
that
we're
going
to
get
contributions
and
donations
because
we
just
don't
know
in
any
given
year
what
it
will
be.,
and
so
this
is
the
first
time
that
we're
giving
you
a
packet..
That's
here's.
The
second
adjustment
to
base,,
which
is.
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F
F
F
I
Osbt:
general
focus
to
fund
balance,,
using
how
you
will.,
and
so
we
don't
tend
to
do
tracking
against
those
specifically
uh,,
but
but
that
that
is
possible
in
the
system.
and
yes,.
We
do
thank
you.
if,
if
the
donations
are
not
anonymous,,
could
we
also
recognize
them
at
the
board
meetings
just
to
publicly
and
all
it
acknowledged
the
contribution,.
I
A
Osbt:
yeah,,
I
mean,,
I
think
that
would
be
nice
to..
We
could
do
that.,
not
kind
of
you
know,
constantly
as
appropriate,.
A
J
K
Osbt:
yeah,
okay,
the
quest
in
your
packet..
That
was
originally
something
like
one
hundred
and
thirty-four
thousand
dollars,
lauren..
Maybe
we
could
use
the
two
opportunities..
We
talk
a
lot
about
budget
like
maybe
the
two
atps..
We
could
also
just
make
sure
that's
the
time
we'll
put
a
little
report
out
with
some
donations,
and
they'll,
see
it
twice
a
year,
spring
and
fall.
F
Osbt:
so
my
other
question,
brian,
is
for
you,,
and
that
is
uh,.
F
Osbt:
but
the
funding
that's
going
to
to
the
climate
action.
and.
F
Osbt:
can
you,
describe
in
a
little
more
detail
kind
of
how
that
money
is
going
to
be
expanded,
and
kind
of
who's
responsible
for
what?.
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L
Osbt:
so
as
those
projects
are
moving,
forward,
we're
starting
to
see
the
need
to
start
to
earmarks
and
funding
for
additional
pilot
projects
and
research
in
two
thousand
and
twenty-three,,
and
we
don't
know
exactly
what
those
are
going
to
look
like,,
but
around
best
practices
and
reduction
opportunities.
L
Osbt:
for
our
lead.,
the
way
we
do
our
maintenance
and
management.
the
additional
looks
into
wildfire
risk.
Reductions.
um!.
L
F
L
Osbt:,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
admits.
One
of
the
things
we're
likely
to
do
is
continue
to
work
with
our
two
consultants
that
we
have,,
because
they
have
an
area
of
expertise
about
what
the
department
can
bring,
and,
as
we've
been
working
with
them,
we're
learning
more
and
more
how
complex
some
of
the
accounting
is
around
carbon,,
how
it's
stored,,
how
it
fluctuates
here
over
here,.
L
L
J
Osbt:
okay.,
so
right
now,,
we
didn't
want
to
wait
a
full
additional
budget
year,,
because
we
know
that
these
two,,
the
two
works
of
the
consultant,
are
going
to
lead
to..
You
need
to
do
implementation.,
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
start
that
in
two
thousand
and
twenty-three
as
soon
as
we
can,
rather
than
wait
another
for
your
budgets.
J
Osbt:,
so
it
does
a
little
bit
of
an
estimate
at
this
time..
The
good
news,
is,
we're
going
to
come
back
to
you
right
now
that
we're
sleeping
for
february
to
talk
very
specifically
more
about
climate
action
in
which
we're
going
to
know
more
about
what
the
implementation
may
look
like
for
two
thousand
and
twenty-three,,
and
we'll
be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
level
of
detail
for
you..
I
was
going
to
suggest
that
be
very
helpful.,
so
good.
J
L
Osbt:
look
at
our
operations
in
terms
of
the
greenhouse
gas
footprint
that
will
come
along
with
the
report,,
and
the
story
meant
to
tell
the
details
of
that
accounting
in
july..
We'll
have
to
deliver.
The
second
report,,
which
is
gonna,
be
looking
more
at
the
land
use
side
of
the
equation..
So
that's
a
carbon
store.
L
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L
Osbt:
also,
we
haven't
figured
out
what
our
targets
for
a
reduction
would
be..
As
we
start
to
look
under
the
hood
of
this
inventory..
Some
of
the
things
are
going
to
be
really
tough
for
us
to
move
on,
so.
L
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L
Osbt:,
it's
not
gonna,
be
a
a
complete
one,
eighty,
and
start
to
see
things
looking
a
lot
different
than
they
already
do..
But
we
are
optimistic
that
we
can
make
a
dent
in
this.
um.,
but
first
we
just
need
to
figure
out.
Our
contribution
to
the
problem
is
we're
our
responsibility
for
that
reduction.
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L
Caroline
miller:
karen?,
I
should
have
asked
you
at
the
beginning..
If,
if
we
have
a
question,,
are
you
able
to
see
us?
if
we
raise
our
hands,
or
are
we
going
to
help
them
to
look
up
and
see?
and
alison
me
that
they'll
help
me
see?
What's
going
on?
okay,
cause,
I'm
like
she
looks
far
away
to
me,,
so
I
don't
know
how
well
she
can
see
me.
um,,
but
I
I,
if
you
have
a
question,
that's
your
turn..
We
can
see
you
better
than
you
can
see.
Us.
G
Caroline
miller:
is,
is
lauren
still
there
to
your
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
and
I'm
sorry
about
the
the
car
noise.
G
Caroline
miller:,
if
I
heard
you
correctly,,
you
said
like,
for
the
example,,
the
junior
ranger
donations,
the
five
thousand..
We
would
need
to
use
that
by
the
end
of
the
year.
G
Caroline
miller:,
the
amount-
that's
the
hundred
and
five
thousand.
G
Caroline
miller:
that
one
in
the
line
talks
about
um,
any
unspent
balance
will
be
carried
over.
G
Caroline
miller:,
what
would
need
to
caroline
miller:
be
spent
versus
something
that
can
continue
over
or
or
did
I
not
hear
you
correctly.
I
I
Osbt:
typically,
we
have
flexibility
on
donations
and
grants
that
it
does
not
have
to
be
spent
within
that
calendar
year..
So
um!
what
happens
on
the
with
the
financial
system
that
we
have
any
unspent
budget
at
the
end
of
the
year,
kicks
to
fund
balance,
and
then
through
the
first
adjustment
to
base
next
year,
in
order
to
bring
that
with
us..
So.
I
Osbt:
in
that
example,
of
the
arthur
moss
request
that
you
pointed
out,
we
originally
got
that
donation
at
one
hundred
and
thirty-four
thousand.
we've
spent
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
of
it.,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
carrying
forward
the
unspent
balance
to
be
able
to
be
used
in
in
future
years
to
accomplish
those
projects
um,
in
general.
So
depending
on
the
revenue
source,
like.
If
this
was
a
grant,,
they
might
have,.
You
know,
a
requirement
to
spend
eighty
percent
of
it
within
three
years
or
something
like
that..
I
Osbt:
award.,
but
with
donations
there
aren't
typically
time
limits
on
those.,
and
so
it's
really,
we
would
be
working
with
with
the
education
outreach
group
with
natasha
to
say,.
Do
you
need
this
money
this
year??
Do
you
want
to
spend
it
this
year??
Or
would
you
like
to
carry
that
forward
next
year
to
support
the
two
thousand
and
twenty-three
program?
so
um!
we
have
flexibility,,
and
then
we
use
the
adjustment
to
base
to
carry
it
forward
with
us.
G
G
L
L
L
Osbt:,
it's
one
thing
we're
seeing
as
we
look
at
the
reports
that
they're
not
always
have
enough
annotation
and
citation
to
make
those
results.
Repeatable.,
there's
a
little
bit
of
everyone..
Does
it
differently.?
So
this
techniques
are
not
completely
firmed
up,
and
it's
not
copy
paste
right
now.,
so
we're
hoping.
L
G
G
B
Osbt:
good
idea.,
thanks.
um..
We
are
at
the
at
the
time
limit
for
this
agenda
item..
If
you
have
any
further
questions
about
the
adjustment
to
base,,
please
email,
laura,
and
she'll.
B
I
I
Osbt:
grant
award,,
whether
that's
from
the
forest
service
or
cpw.
or
another
partner
agency..
We
do
tend
to
see
each
year
that
we
we
get
some
contributions
to
projects
out
of
that
service.
Area..
This
figure
here,
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
lower
boulder
creek
wetland
restoration
is
higher
than
what
we,
what
we
typically
see.
um.
but
yeah,.
I
I
would
anticipate.,
there's
typically
at
least
a
half
million
dollars
in
in
the
second
atv.
um,,
and
then
in
the
first
adjustment
to
base
in
spring.
I
Osbt:,
that
is
very
substantial..
That's
many
millions
of
dollars,
because
it
accounts
for
these
multi
year,
capital,
improvement
program,
projects,
multi
year,
construction,
projects.,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
carrying
forward
the
unspent
balance
from
the
previous
year
to
support
a
continuing,
project.,
so
uh,.
We
also
carry
forward
the
balance
on
the
acquisition
fund
and
the
first
adjustment
to
base,.
So
it's
not
unusual
for
that
to
be
in
the
ballpark
of
ten
million
dollars.
I
Osbt:
yeah,,
I
I
think
the
community
would
benefit
it
if
we
periodically
kind
of
stay
that
um,
so
that
you
know
there
isn't
this
notion
that
all
of
a
sudden,
you
know,
there's?
This
is
a
pot
at
the
end
of
the
rainbow
of
millions
of
dollars.
F
B
Osbt:
follow
up.
osbt:
um..
The
first
is
dana
and
I
were
asked
to
make
comments,
reflective
comments
on
the
retreat
itself.
B
B
Osbt:,
so
I'm
gonna
start
with
my
reflective
comments
about
the
retreat
very
briefly,
and
then
turn
it
over
to
dan.
B
Osbt:
feedback,,
but
osbt:
from
from
both
the
board,
members
and
staff
about
the
roundtable
that
we
had
in
the
hour
at
the
beginning
of
the
retreat,.
And
my
perception
from
the
feedback
was
that
people
found
that
both
interesting
and
informative,
and.
B
B
Osbt:
abundance
that
we're
found
both
in
the
forest
and
grasslands,,
and
also
concerned
about
some
of
the
decreases
in
populations
that
have
been
found..
So
there
were
pluses
and
minuses
in
terms
of
the
natural
resources
and
a
lot
of
things.
B
Osbt:
that
people
indicated
an
interest
in
following
up
on,,
either
by
the
field
trips
or
by
other
additional
sessions,
or.
B
Osbt:
osbt:
and
uh,
osbt:
dan
and
I
have
been
discussing
opportunities
to.
B
Osbt:
grasslands
and
forests
and.
B
Osbt:
wildlife,
habitat
at
future
board
meetings.,
so
you'll
be
seeing
those
on
the.
B
Osbt:
things
regarding
hca
as
an
actions
that
will
be
necessary
in
two
thousand
and
twenty-three.
so
on
our
calendars,
we'll
be
seeing
that
coming
forward
at
regular
board
meetings,,
so
that
we
can
clear
the
amount
of
hca
action
that.
B
B
J
J
J
J
J
Osbt:
that
was
really
helpful..
I
also
just
want
to
put
kudos
to
caroline
and
john..
I
thought
how
they
brought
the
collaboration,
health
between
board
and
staff.
That
start
stop,
continue
kind
of
model.
That
john,
let
us
through
was
a
really
kind
of
nice
way
to.
J
Osbt:,
not
that
alleviating
staff
load
is
always
the
goal
of
everything
we
do,.
But
I
thought
that
there
was
a
really
good
balance
this
year
of
not
putting
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
a
lot
of
pre-work
and
presentations
by
staff,,
because
that
that
is
very
time
consuming..
And
so
we
were
able
to
enjoy
and
participate.
J
J
F
F
Osbt:
and
then,
kind
of
the
prioritization
that
we
came
up
with,
so
that
there
is
kind
of
a
record
of
okay.
here
are
the
suggestions.
and
here
here's
kind
of
how
they
uh,
we're
ranked..
F
B
Osbt:
and
we're
going
to
be
going
over
the
summary
notes,
as
we
do
with
the
minutes
at
subsequent
forward
meetings.,
so
we'll
be
with
the
summary
notes,
a
little
bit
more
at
that
time.
but
um!.
I
wanted
to
start
hold
on
just
a
second,
michelle.
B
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
okay,
um,.
What
we
were
talking
about
doing
a
recap
about
the
retreat..
I
just
wanted
to
mention
something
that
hasn't
sat
well
with
me
about
the
retreat,
and
um,,
and
it
has
to
do
with
sort
of
the
framing
of.
N
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
to
feel
like
we
were
implying
that
we
don't
value
the
expertise
and
experience
and
training
of
our
younger
staff,.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
and
so
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
and
convey
my
personal
take
on.
that
is,.
That
discussion
was
not
meant
to
imply
that
we
did
not
value
those
staff.
F
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt,
(she/her):
and,
and
I
I
agree
with
that.,
just
the
way
that
was
framed
up
um,
and
that
particular
conversation
and
the
the
microphone
given
to
a
subset
of
staff.
Just.
N
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
maybe
had
twelve
years
of
experience,,
but
had
very
valuable
training
and
and
knowledge.
and
so,.
If
those
things
are
not
mutually
exclusive,.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
out
loud
and
sure
that
we're
all
in
agreement
with
that.,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
out,
loud.
B
G
Caroline
miller:
thank
you.
everyone
for
a
great
retreat.,
it
was..
It
was
really
fun,
um,
david
michelle,,
for
getting
everything
together
and
and
all
of
staff
for
doing
it,,
and
it
was
really
nice
to
be
in
the
same
room
with
everyone
and
um!.
I
love
the
round
table
discussion..
I
thought
it
was
really
great..
So
just
just
a
quick
thank
you
to
everyone.
J
B
B
B
F
F
G
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
I
I
I
appreciate
that
comment.
I
had
in
my
chicken
scratch
something
similar.
but
uh,.
It
was
more
along
the
lines
of
an
equitable
allocation
of
time.
B
B
B
B
Osbt:,
I
think
the
intent
is
perfectly
clear.
That,
comments,
like
the
board
should
be.
G
G
B
Osbt:,
where
there
are
changes.
osbt:
osbt:
number
one
is,
as
it
is
number.
B
B
Osbt:
is
that
osbt:
osbt:
sufficient
notice.,
what's
meant
by
sufficient
notice.
B
J
J
B
F
Osbt:
comment
that
says
sufficient
notice.
and
then
we
in
parentheses,
ordinarily
one
month.
yeah.,
so
that
then
that
corresponds
to
what
we
get
now
more
in
this
article,.
What
we
say
about
one
month,
yeah.
as
long
as
we
know
that,
there's
then
there's
some
flexibility
in
that
language,,
but
it
gets
somebody
a
sense
of.
B
F
J
Osbt:
in
this
case,
or
is
it
a
different
subject,
matter,
or
I
think
it's
the
same,,
because
we
use
it..
If
we
can
use
consistent
language
as
a
number
two.,
we
use
agenda
topics,
and
then
we
go
into
subjects,
and
if
they're
one
in
the
same,,
let's
just
let's
just
use
it
in
the
topics
right?
because
we're
on
their
agenda
as
the
subject
matter
on
article
three.
well,
article
three,
says,
agenda
subjects,.
Should
we
call
the
word
subjects:
so?
a
topic,
and
just
have
it
all
be
about
agenda.
E
G
B
F
N
F
K
J
J
J
B
B
J
F
Osbt:
since.
F
F
F
F
J
Osbt:
the
matters
in
the
because
I
think
michelle
is
always
acknowledging
that
from
a
staff
perspective,
things
could
come.
emergent.
Issues
could
come
up
at
any
time
that
the
staff
needs
to
put
something
on
the
agenda
based
on
something
that's
happening
out
on
the
land
right?.
So
I'm
just
wondering
is
this
sex
diet
same
questions
for
me
when
I
was
looking
at
section
six,
referring
to
matters
from
the
board?.
J
F
F
B
B
J
F
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
in
one
version
of
this,
what
we
kind
of
talking
about
how
the
memo
is,,
if
something
urgent
and
substantive,
came
up,,
and
it
came
from
the
board
that.
N
N
J
B
J
J
J
J
All
right.
well,
we've
got
three
subject,
matters.
J
J
A
A
P
P
Osbt:,
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
acknowledging
that
these
lands
that
we
call
osmp
have
been
stewarded
by
indigenous
people
for
time,
immemorial,
and.
P
P
P
Osbt:
things
that
we're
doing
with
our
youth.
so
I'll
just
start
with
it.
P
P
G
H
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Osbt:
and
here's
our
vision
and
mission.,
it's
has
not
changed
that
much..
What's
changed.
The
most,
though,
is
the
fact
that
we're
starting
to
do
more
about
co-,
creating
programs
rather
than
being
the
stage
on
the
stage
and
standing
up
there
and
telling
people
what
we
think
they
need
to
know.
we're
asking
a
lot
of
questions.
we're
trying
to
get
people
in
conversation
with
each
other,.
So
that
information
is
that
much
more
meaningful?
and
it
gets
to
you
a
little
bit
deeper.
P
P
P
P
Osbt:
and
then
tonight,
we,
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
youth
leadership.
P
P
P
P
A
P
Osbt:
and
super
innovative
and
really
good
at
connecting
the
partners,
making
sure
goals
align
and
just
big
picture
thinking..
I
think
you're
really
gonna
enjoy
seeing
what
she
has
been
working.
On.
P
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:
so,
as
you
can
see,
here,
and
you
saw
in
your
packets
our
work
connecting
you
to
the
outdoors.
um,,
we
don't
do
that
work
alone,.
Q
Osbt:-
and
we
do
that
at
many
levels,
specifically,
locally,
and
within
our
city
organization,
and
with
colleagues
and
in
informed
by
national
trends
and
thought
leadership.
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:,
engaging,
and
inspiring
facilities
and
media
are
critical
for
education
and
nature
connection
work..
So
we
can
talk
about
these
for
a
lot
of
hours.,
but
we
don't
have
that
time.
and
what
I
want
to
focus
on
tonight
is
the
programming
specifically
in
three
areas,,
our
programming
with
schools
and
youth
groups,
with
families
and
also
programming.,
that
is,
fire
stewardship.
Q
Osbt:
and
before
we
go
there,
actually
I
love
this
picture..
This
is
um..
We're
gonna
focus
on
programming
tonight..
It's
really
important
for
us
all
to
remember
that
every
day
on
the
land,
as
lisa
introduced
us
to
every
day
on
the
land.,
our
education
and
our
each
team
is
interact
interacting
with.
Q
Osbt:
people
of
all
the
ages
and
views
through
the
ranger
cottage
on
trails
and
trail
heads,,
and
this
is
a
photo
of
our
one,.
Our
outreach
ranger,,
who
happened
to
greet
at
a
trail
head
table
some
young
people
that
we're
about
to
go
on
a
hike,
at.
Q
Osbt:,
we
believe
the
schools
are
hubs
and
our
communities,
our
congress,
to
reaching
our
families
and
our
to
first
community
of
you
and
families.,
and
that's
why
we
partner
with
boulder
valley,
school
district,
local
schools..
We
work
closely
with
teachers,
and
partner
with
with
students
to
co-create
a
continuum
of
pre
kindergarten
through
grade,,
twelve
experiences
on
the
land
and
in
our
schools.
Q
Osbt:
so
last
year,
for
example,-
and
I
know
you
saw
this
in
your
packet,
our
our
information.
From
last
year,
we
reached
over
five
thousand
students
and
fourteen
boulder
valley,
school
district
school,
two
independent
schools,
and
also
two
home
schools,
through
fifty-seven
programs
on
the
land
and
in
classrooms.
and
this
fall.
We
are
planning
to
work
with
eleven
boulder
valley,
schools
and
two
private
schools
reaching
over
thousand
students.
That's
happening
right,
now.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:,
so
a
specific
example
of
our
field.
Chart
programs
is
oops
spoiler,
alert,,
specific
example
that
I'm
excited
to
share
is
our
fourth
grade:
colorado
landscape
field
trip
program
which
we
launched
last
year
in
partnership
with
boulder.
really,,
specifically
heatherwood
elementary
growing
up
holder,,
and
through
this
project
we
developed
a
field
trip
model
for
the
school
district.
Q
Osbt:
students
are
learning
about,,
as
you
can
see
here
at
the
local
ecosystem.
That's
near
their
school..
In
this
case,
it's
the
wood
brothers
country,,
which
is
in
the
don
barrel
pill
area
in
the
fall..
They
learned
about
that
local,,
the
local
ecosystem,
and
with
brothers
property,
the
plants
and
animals
that
live
there..
They
also
develop
through
participatory
engagement.
solutions
for
how
you
and
gave
us
ideas
on
how
you
want
to
learn
and
be
outdoors.
Q
Osbt:
and
they
talk
their
parents
through
a
website..
I
hope
you
get
to
see
that
link
in
your
packet.
they've
taught
their
parents
and
community
about
the
plans
and
animals
and
the
history
of
the
wood
brothers
property
that
was
in
the
fall,
and
then
in
the
spring.
We
turned
to
the
other
side
of
the
school,,
the
governor
hill
area,,
where
students
also
learned
about
the
local
ecosystem
and
took
action
by
creating
artwork
messaging
through
artwork,,
and
this
artwork
is
going
to
be
incorporated
into
signs
along
what?.
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:,
so
among
the
many
project
objectives,
and
for
the
purposes
of
our
time,
tonight,
I'm.
excited
to
share
with
you
that
an
important
objective
is
fostering
resilience
in
action
and
action
among
children
and
youth
and
advancing
climate
solutions.
and
we're
learning
from
students
what
inspires
them
to
act.
Q
Osbt:
and
he
wanted
to
share
these
um,
these
this
photo,-
these
are
learning
materials.
um,
one
is
this:.
This
student
is
looking
at
our
plan
and
wildlife
snapshots,
all
very
in
the
details.,
but
there's
an
activity
where
students
have
a
chance
to
connect
with
particular
plants
or
animals
that
live
in
the
area.
they're
on
the
field,
trip.
and
they're,
taking
that
they're
learning
with
them
on
the
land.
they're,
also
taking
them
into
the
classroom,
and
the
field
trip
happened
is
a
place,
for,
while
on
a
field
trip
as
well
as
app,.
Q
Osbt:
another
really
important
component
of
our
school
field.
Trips.
Is
that
nature
connection
piece
and
our
relationship
with
nature..
So
that's
what
this
image
is
showing
here.
um,.
We
believe
that
nature
connection
isn't:
just
about
feeling
connected
and
receiving
the
benefits
of
nature.,
and
we
work
with
you
through
activities
like
the
stroke
activity
that,
just
like
in
an
ecosystem
when
something
is
out
of
balance.
there's
a
lot
of
medical
and
we
have
to
work
together,.
Q
Q
Osbt:
who
developed
years
ago
when
they
realized
well,
we're
not
doing
as
many
field
trucks
during
the
winter,
they
decided.,
let's
bring
the
learning
to
the
school,,
and
hence
we
have
the
third
grade:
wildlife,
education,
program..
This
program
reaches
about
a
thousand
folder
valley,
school
district,.
Third
graders..
Every
year
there
is
a
series
of
four
mountain
lines.,
there's
coyotes
and
snakes
and
our
volunteer
naturalists,
in
case
kids,
and
learning
about
not
only
the
not.
Q
Q
Osbt:
another
program
that
happens
in
our
continuum
of
school
based
programming
is
our
school
assembly..
This
is
with
our
partners,
jeff
and
page..
As
you
can
see,
here,
not
a
face
to
put
on
exciting
costumes.
you
know..
We
know
that
kids
learn
by
moving,
and
that
is
you're,
seeing
that
in
action
in
this
image,.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:
we
moving
beyond
our
schools,
and,
as
we
talked
about
schools
or
hubs
in
our
communities.
part
of
our
continuum
of
working
with
youth,
of
course,,
includes
families
and
caregivers,
so
equitable
access
to
nature.
As
we
all
know,
it's
foundational
for
our
family
based
programming.
um,.
We
we
always
want
that
equitable
access
and
welcoming
feel
on
open
space..
So
we
reach
our
families
through
a
variety
of
programs
on
the
land
and
neighborhood.
Q
And
throughout
the
communities,
osbt:
through
programs
and
events,,
we
welcome
families
to
open
space..
We
really
are
building
trusted
relationships..
We
see
a
lot
of
repeat
families
on
our
programs,
and
I
mean,,
as
you
can
see,
here,
this
child
in
my
need
is
arms
is
not
a
stranger
at
this
time..
It's
been
on
many
programs,
and
there's
a
comfort
level.
well
in
the
outdoors,
which
is
really
exciting
to
see.
Q
Osbt:
um.
osbt:,
so
also
our
family,,
our
series
of
family
events,,
you
might
recognize..
The
summit
is
the
popular
summer
series
met
in
music,,
which
happens
on
the
chatauqua
green,,
literally,
reaching
thousands
of
families
through
movement
and
dance
and
connection
to
nature
each
other
and
to
self.
um!.
My
favorite
song
is
get
outdoors..
I
hope
you
can
come
if
you
haven't
come
already.
um,
and
it's
it's
a
favorite,
and
we're
just
really
grateful
for
this
partnership.
Q
Osbt:
we
also
participate..
I
hope
you've
had
a
chance
to
see
us
at
many
community
of
that.
The
tulip
fairy
festival
with
the
wake
up
the
bear
is
the
osmp
tradition,.
Also
the
much
of
a
mascade
that's
coming
out..
We
have
a
large
presence
there
to
connect
with
families,,
and
the
pollinator
festival
is
another
example
that
recently
happened
in
downtown
folder.
Q
Osbt:
another
important
part
of
our
programming,-
and
you
may
have
seen
this
in
your
if
you
get
field
notes,,
I
hope
you
do
field
notes,
as
well
as
on
our
website
at
nature.
Hex
dot,
org
you'll
see
a
a
a
menu
of
programs
that
are,
under
our
nature,
discovery
series
for
families..
This
is
an
important
part
of
our
continuum
of
programming,,
reaching
you,
and,.
As
you
see
here
in
these
images,
from
story
time
heights
to
backpacks
that
are
on
the
left
of
the
screen,.
The
images.
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:,
a
third
and
really
important
component
of
our
programming,
for
k.
through
twelve,
is
our
stewardship
projects.
you're,
seeing
a
very
familiar,
some
very
familiar
images
here
of
the
junior
ranger
crew,,
and
this
is
the
climate
team
from
this
summer..
I
believe
that
you
you
heard
about
this
through
the
junior
ranger
update
last
last
month.
um!.
This
is
one
example
of
how
ian,.
Q
Q
Osbt:
series
of
programs.
I
cannot.
what's
coming
out
of
that
is
so
exciting.
teams
are
taking
action,
and
they're,
also
co-creating
what
those
actions
are.
we're
really
excited
about
that
program,.
Q
Osbt:
for
similar
to
our
work
within
osmp
at
the
city,
level.
we're
fortunate
to
have
many
plans,,
such
as
our
parks
and
our
green
ways,
facilities
and
media
like
incredible
websites
and
and
printed
and
web-based
materials..
But
today
we're
going
to
focus
really
on
the
collaboration
and
the
programming.
Q
Osbt:,
I'm
very
honored
to
share
with
you
and
excited
to
to
share
with
you
that
we
have
a
group
of
seven
city
departments
that
you
see
here
that
have
been
working
together
for
a
couple
of
years
to
advance
equitable
access
to
nature
for
older
youth
and
their
families,,
and
we
call
ourselves
the
border
youth,
nature,
initiative..
It's
a
working,
group,
and
we've
been
sharing
resources,.
We
developed
an
inventory
of
programming
and
partnerships
and
policies.
Q
Osbt:
we're
collaborating
on
programming
to
really
advance
our
mission.
Q
Q
Osbt:
and
equitable
access
to
nature.
equity
is
at
the
core
of
both
of
those
focus
areas..
So
we're
going
to
continue
our
work
to
find
ways
to
advance
our
youth,
nature,
connections
and
stewardship
of
the
natural
world.,
and
I
want
to
give
you
a
quick
lamp
of
one
of
those
exciting
projects.
That's
happening
right,
now.,.
Q
Osbt:
we
have
been
working
with
columbine
elementary
through
a
program
called
nature,,
a
project
called
nature,,
connection,,
action,
and
hope..
This
is
happening.
This
fall
with
with
with
caller.
excuse
me
with
columbine
elementary,,
fourth
grade,
classroom,
and
teachers,,
and
our
partners
at
growing
up
older
and
classrooms
for
climate
action.
Q
Osbt:
this
project,,
it
might
seem
a
little
bit
familiar.
it's
building
upon
what
we
learned
with
the
wood
brothers
and
gun
barrel
hill
project
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
and
what's
important
about
this-
is
that
it's
again
continuing
that
model
for
place-based,
learning,
and
pbsd
fourth
grade
classrooms,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
in
this
particular
semester
to
not
only
educate
and
engage
students
in
learning
about
the
riparian
ecosystem
of
the
goose
cree
corridor
near
their
school.
Q
Q
Osbt:
and
that
data
is
coming
in
right,
now?.
Another
exciting
component
of
this
project
is
that
students
are
practicing
the
floodplain
engineers.
they're
learning
about
the
riparian
ecosystem,
learning
about
community
process
for
mitigation,,
and
they
literally
this
week
and
their
classroom
are
building
what
planes,
and
they're
going
to
be
sharing
their
recommendation
for
grace.
create
mitigation.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:
technical
assistance
grant
through
the
cities
connecting
children
to
nature
early
childhood,,
nature,
connection,
cohort..
So
that's
a
lot
of
words..
I
stumble
sometimes..
The
the
point
of
this
project.
Is
this
opportunity
to
work
with
our
national
thought
leaders
for
best
practices
in
early
childhood
nature,
connection.
Q
Osbt:
and
we,,
as
we
advance
that
we're
we're
working
closely
with
boulder,
housing,
partners,
and
other
community
partners
as
well.
Q
Osbt:
we're
going
to
be
working
together
to
look
specifically
at
and
to
develop
an
action
plan
around
nature
based
programming
that
collaborative
programming.
We
talked
about
as
well
as
spaces
for
nature,
connection
and
learning,.
Q
Osbt:-
and
that
leads
me
to
an
exciting
effort
that
the
city
is
undertaking
right
now
over
the
next
six
months,
working
in
conjunction
with
the
city
of
older,
growing
up
holder..
Our
partners
are
growing
up,
older.
we'll
be
launching
older,
child,
friendly
city
initiative,,
and
it
will
be
the
first
of
its
kind
in
colorado,
which
is
really
exciting..
It's
a
collaborative
multi
year
process,.
So
it's
going
to.
it's
going
to
be
a
process
and
a
good
one.
Q
Osbt:
and
you
might
be
wondering
if
that's
great.-
and
why
are
we
talking
about
that
tonight?,
what's
so
exciting
and
really
interesting
for
us-
is
that
while
a
child
friendly
city
is
so
important,
also
that
can
green
spaces
and
time
and
nature
is
a
a
central
place
in
what
it
means
to
be
a
child
in
the
city.
Q
Osbt:
um,,
as
you
saw
in
your
packet,,
and
we
could
spend
all
night
talking
about
research.
karen
knows
a
lot
about
that.
um,.
We
just
wanted
to..
I
wanted
to
share
this
image,
because
what
we
know
and
what
I
hope,
you're
you're
gathering.
a
sense
of,
is
that
through
our
continuum
of
programming
for
you,,
we
are
incorporating
several
key
elements
that
were
we
know
from
research
when
combined,.
Q
Osbt:
so
osbt:
one
thing
that's
really
important
to
us
is
making
sure
that
we
evaluate
what
we're
doing.
um!
and
I'm
really
excited
to
share..
For
many
years,
we,
of
course,
at
osp
have
been
delivering
surveys
after
field
trip
programs
and
classroom
programs
and
getting
feedback,
and
also
through
conversation,
so
qualitative
and
quantitative
information
about
our
programming,,
which
is
important
to
inform
future
programming..
We
once
a
process
of
to
develop
a
new
evaluation
plan.
Q
Osbt:
and
to
refine
our
evaluation
tools,
and
we're
piloting
these
need
new
tools.
and
this
plan,
this
semester..
What
you're
seeing
on
the
left
is
an
image.
um..
For
the
first
time
we
intentionally
are
incorporating
student
feedback
as
part
of
our
evaluation
of
our
programming,
and
we're
aligning..
Our
evaluation
plan
was
created
with
our
master
plan
outcomes
in
mind.,
so
it's
outcomes
based
evaluation.,
I'm
learning
so
much.
Q
Osbt:
fortunate
for
the
partners,
we
were
able
to
work
with
on
this.
and
um,
you're,
just
seeing
that
only
evidence
of
an
evaluation
plan,,
but
also
a
student
survey
here,
and
this
slide.
Q
Osbt:
and
with
that
before
we
take
any
questions,
and
in
closing
I
hope
you
feel.
Q
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
I
would
love
to
jump.
In.
um.,
michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):.
My
kids
are
the
product
of
jeff
and
page.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
um,,
you
know,,
and
we
would
go
there
every
monday
night,
and
we
bike
up
that
hill
got
me
back
in
shape
after
having
twins
and
and
hung
out
a
lot,,
and
you
know
they
it's
just..
It
is
an
amazing
program
and
boulder
just
does
an
incredible
job
in
reaching
youth
and
understanding
the
importance
of
how
they
are
our
future
of
stewardship..
N
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
a
plus.
hopefully,.
I
got
that
right
communities
as
well
through
your
different
partnerships,,
and
I
know
that
must
not
be
easy,,
and
I
am
amazed
with
that
about
um,
with
how
how
well
you
do
do
with
that.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
um!.
My
understanding
is
that
almost
every
organization
that
you
partner
with
has
bolder
part
of
it,
and
and
there's
a
certain
demographics,
certainly,,
like
certain
parts
of
the
city,,
do
have
more
diversity.
um!.
Do
you
rely
on
those
partnerships
to
reach,,
say,,
inner
city
youth
and
in
denver
as
well,
and
I,?
I
know,,
like
thorn,
will
offer
scholarships.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
to
get
folks
in
in
their
programs.
is
there
a
way
that
you
can
reach
them
more
directly?,
and
I
know
that's
probably
a
really
tough
challenge.
but,
um!.
What
are
your
thoughts
and
efforts
in
in
that
area.
N
Osbt:
thanks.,
I
just
got
technical
assistance
to
turn
on
my
video..
I
thank
you
so
much,
michelle,
and
I
appreciate
your
comments.
um!
I'll
start
us
off.,
I'm
going
to
invite
you
to
jump
in
um..
I
appreciate
your
comments,
and
and
also
I
feel
so
honored
to
be
here,
and
at
least
when
I
go
to
representing
a
large
team
that.
Q
Q
Osbt:
we
work
with
groups
from
long
run,
and
denver
and
aurora
specific
partnership.
That's
coming
to
mind
for
me
as
an
example,,
and
I
would
love
to
continue..
The
conversation
is
working
with
latino
outdoors.
so,
for
example,
um,,
we're
starting
a
a
partnership
with
them
this
week,
and
actually
it's
a
city
of
boulder,,
open
space
and
boulder
county
parks
and
open
space,
and
latino
outdoors
are
coming
together
for
an
outdoor
adventure
at
all..
Hop
on
this.
This
weekend,.
Q
G
G
Caroline
miller:
out
of
colorado,
right
now,
and
it
made
me-
want
to
drive
immediately
to
the
airport
and
come
straight
home.
so.
um!.
We
live
in
a
very,,
very
special
place.
um,,
which
becomes
even
more
special
with
people
like
you.
G
G
G
G
G
Caroline
miller:,
no
one
knows
what
I'm
talking:
about?
okay,
I'll,
do
it
alone.
um!,
but
but
wondering
if
any
of
our
our
buses
would.
G
Caroline
miller:
be
able
to
help
out
the
youth
to
to
pick
them
up
for
free
and
and
take
them
around
and
and
get
them
out
in
nature.
um,
and
back
home..
That
would
be
super
cool
to
have..
I
I
think
I
saw
utilities
on
that
list,
and
I
was
in
my
head..
I
went
utilities
and
transportation..
Maybe
they
want
to
help.
G
G
Osbt:
but
again,
nothing
but
compliment
that
was
so
fabulous.
it
like
warmed,
my
heart
that
felt
so
good..
I
wish
I
wish
you
could
talk
for
the
rest
of
our
meeting..
That
was
great..
Thank
you
so
much,,
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
to
acknowledge
and
say
thank
you
for
bringing
up
the
transportation
piece..
We
do
know
that
transportation,
that
we
have
many,
many
sources
of
information,
and
that
transportation
can
be
a
barrier.
um,.
Q
Osbt:
with
our
schools,,
and
also
with
our
families,
and
we've,
approached
that
in
a
variety
of
different
ways,,
including
taking.,
we've.
Actually,
one
model
that
we've
used
in
the
past
that
we
still
have
to
explore
is
meeting
families
where
they
live..
In
this
case
it
was
working
with
families
with
ed
of
our
housing
partners
community,
and
we
got
on
um..
We
walked
to
the
bus
together,
and
we
wrote
up
to
together,,
and
then
we
had
a
height
together,
and
we
came
back.
so.
Q
M
Osbt:,
I
think
she
might
be
referring
to
the
our
tv..
They
did
the
august
free
fair
for
the
air,.
C
Jon
carroll,
(he/him):
uh,,
you
know
I
I'm
it..
It
was
awesome
to
see
it
was
awesome.
see,.
You
know
all
the
different
programs
that
we
have.
um,,
you
know,
and
I
I
just
wish
I
could
have
had
those
opportunities
when
I
was
a
kid.
um,
and
it's
great
to
see.
we're
providing
them
for
for
kids
now..
So
thank
you..
I
don't
have
any
specific
questions.
F
Q
Q
Q
Osbt:
we
have
conversations
about
the
programming
that
is
happening.
There.
there's
an
annual
plan
that
that
in
which
there's
an
annual
meeting,
and
which
representatives
from
osmp
in
the
sure,
I
went
as
well
as
folder
valley,
school
district.
At
this
year
of
the
superintendent
of
partnerships,
and
for
nature,
experience,
staff,
aaron
saunders..
We
need
to
understand
what
the
field
trip
program
will
be
really
school
district
and
thorne.
Q
Osbt:
partner
on
a
field
trip
program
for
all
second
graders:
they
reach
over
ninety
percent
of
bbsc.
Second
graders
through
a
field
trip
program.
That's
in
brown,
march.,
that's
still
happening..
What
we
know
is
that?
um,
what?
what?.
So
that
is
what
we
know,,
and
our
understanding
is
that
there
are
conversations
around.
J
Osbt:
sort
of
in
holding
that
it's
boulder
valley,
school
district,
that
thor
used
to
be
in.,
right?,
yeah,,
okay,
yeah.,
so
I'm
just
wondering-
is
still
operating
out
of
that
facility.
yes,
okay,,
because
I
was
a
little
concerned
that
if
they
had
moved,,
then
what
the
future
of
that
building
will
actually
be
so..
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
things
are
continually..
Things
are
continuing,
and
pbsd
has
put
additional
resources
into
the
facilities
and
then
remodeled.
and
there's.
Q
F
Osbt:
social
situation
that
that
is
kind
of
a
wolf
whistle
for
certain
things.
and
if
we're
worried
about
people
that
are
unprepared
or
unskilled
in
the
outdoors,.
F
F
F
Osbt:
so,
anyway,.
I
suggest
that
we
might
want
to
revisit
that,
and
maybe
clarify
a
little
bit
on
what?
exactly
that
value
is
from
our
perspective.
thank
you..
So
you're
not
talking
about
you.
you're
talking
about
the
values,
right?
okay,
got
it?
yeah,,
it's
more
about
safety.!
If
someone's
coming,.
P
Osbt:
go
to
green
mountain..
I
need
to
talk
to
them
about
having
that
water..
That's
that's
so.,
so
I
think
we
should.
otherwise,.
You
know
we
want
to
look
at
our
rescue
information,
and
if
you
know,,
if
there
are
inordinate
amount
numbers
of
rescues,
and
you
know
their
their
activities,,
that
you're
finding
unsafe
whatever
I
think
we
need
to
be
clear,,
because
many
people
will
look
at
that
and
say.
F
Osbt:
thank
you.
and
learning.
Now
that's
one
other
quick
thing:
learning
labs.
oh,,
I'm
really
interested,
and
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
and
I'm
hoping
that
we're
kind
of
moving
ahead
and
getting
some
of
it.
Those
launched
in,,
particularly
where
we
can
include
families.
um,
uh,
in
specific,
you
know,
management
activities
uh,,
so
that
they
get
a
better
sense
of.
F
Osbt:,
you
know
what
management
needs
are
out
on
the.
F
G
Caroline
miller:
a,
and
we
don't
have
to
go
into
it
at
this
meeting,
and
maybe
it's
none
of
anyone's
business,,
but
I
I
feel,
like
I've,
heard
kind
of
varying
things
about
the
property
there
with
with
thorn..
I
don't
know
if
at
some
point,,
maybe
we
can
get
an
email,
if.
G
Caroline
miller:
just
to
to
really
caroline
miller:
hammer
down,.
If,
if
that
is
still.
J
Osbt:
alright,,
we
are
moving
on
to
matters
from
the
department,
top
number
two.
and
uh,.
This
is
a
focus,
our
third
of
our
trilogy
series
on
trails,
program.,
we're
going
to
be
focusing
tonight
on
undesignated
trails.
program
and
I'm
going
to
turn
things
over
to
jeff
in
just
a
second..
But
I
just
want
to
just.
J
J
Osbt:
but
I
do
want
to
say
that,
uh,,
since
the
advent
of
the
master
plan.
I
know
from
a
structural
standpoint
that
we've
been
approaching
this
a
little
bit
different
and
a
little
bit
more
focused
than
we
have
in
the
past,,
which
we
created
a
a
very
distinct
trails:
program.
um,,
a
staff
area
around
undesignated
trails.,
we're
developing
process
and
policy
and
and
strategic
direction
for
that
program..
So
we're
super
excited
about.
J
Osbt:,
what
we're
putting
in
place
from
a
structural
standpoint
around
our
on
disney
trails,
program.
and
tonight,
is
we're
just
what
your
whistle
on
on
on
some
of
that,
and
what
we're
doing
out
on
the
ground.
J
Osbt:
and
with
that,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
provide
some
introductions
to
jack
kelly,
deputy
director
for
trail
zoom..
You
know
he
has.
dan
mentioned..
This
is
our
kind
of
our
third
touch,
and
the
what
we
call
the
trail,.
M
M
Osbt:
un
designating
trail..
What
we're
here
tonight
is
that
third
touch,
and
as
dan
mentioned
it's
something
that's
really
guided
by
a
lot
of
plans,
master
plans
and
other
policies.
um!,
and
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
great
work..
I
shouldn't
say
we
but
the
team
for
sure.
M
Osbt:
um,
she's
gonna
do
the
presentation,
and
certainly
is
likely
our
our
most
knowledgeable
person
in
this
topic,
and
has
been
both,.
You
know,
in
the
field,
as
well
as
working
with
those
policies
and
processes
that
dan
mentioned.
M
Osbt:
um,,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
work
to
do..
It's
a
very
complex
program
that
we're
working
on
um,
and
as
you'll
hear,
we
have
almost,
you
know,
just
many
unbeaten,
and
we
do
designated.
so..
It
is
a
holistic
program
that
we
are
trying
to
put
as
many
resources
we
can,
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
hillary..
Thank
you,.
O
Hey,
osbt:
for
taking
my
joke
and
using
it
to
great
effects.
also,.
I
would
like
to
go
before
these
two,,
because
I
was
such
a
good
presentation,
and
I
don't
wanna
follow
it
up.
G
O
O
Osbt:
um.,
so
this
is
a
little
bit
of
background,
and
that's
the
two
of
us,
for
I'm
ready
for
your
questions.
um..
So
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
background
to
building
up
share
knowledge
base
that
we're
all
talking
about
the
same
thing.
O
O
Osbt:
so
three
quick
agenda
items
nice..
So
the
background
talking
to
you
all
a
little
bit
about
how
we
are
prioritizing
this
work..
It
is
big
and
unwieldy..
So
how
are
we
deciding
what
resources
we
apply?
where?
and
then
again,
operational
overview??
What
have
we
done??
Two
thousand
and
nineteen
um!
we're
here
last.
O
Osbt:
a
little
of
background
here,
are,
I
guess..
Here's
one
photo
of
one
on
this
day
trail
could
look
like.
O
Osbt:
to
most
people
that
probably
looks
like
they
des
need
a
trail
that
they
would
be
using
to
get
from
point
to
to
point.
b.
um..
This
is
an
example
of
our
highest
impact.,
so
we
have
three
different
classes,
low,,
medium,
and
high,,
and
that
varies
based
on
the
with..
You
know
how
much
vegetation
cover
is
lost
in
about.
O
Osbt:
half
of
our
undesigned
trails
are
in
this
class
h.
or
wider
category,
just
not
great.
O
Osbt:
osbt:
little
section
of
a
map
from
the
cell
brook.
O
O
Osbt:,
the
lowest
category.
most
impact
of
trail,,
and
then
they
can
get
up
to
this
and
a
wider,,
inherently
social
trails
and
designate
trails,
whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
they're,
not
inherently
bad,,
but
when
you
get
enough
of
them,,
we
have
one
hundred
and
sixty-four
miles
of
them..
They
become
an
issue
they're
doing
a
lot
of
impact.
they're,
causing
a
lot
of
implementation..
They
can
be
confusing
for
visitors,
and
they're,
causing
natural
and
cultural
resource
impacts..
We
do
need
to
address
them.
O
O
Osbt:
biggest
overarching
guidance,
so
that
had
both
particular
mileage,
goals,
and
then
also
management
actions
and
then
trail
study
areas
and
integrate
site
plans..
Those
have
really
specific,
guidance.
so
designate
this
trail,
restore
this
trail..
Here's
what
you
need
to
do
in
an
area.
get
people
from
this
point
at
this
point.
O
Osbt:,
so
we
use
all
of
that.
osbt:
the
master
plan.
um,,
it's
a
tier,
two
strategy,,
and
he
goes
some
health
and
resiliency.
reduce
on
designated
trails.
The
three
management
options
we
have
available..
We
can
designate
them.,
we
can
restore
them.,
we
can
re-categorize
them..
I
have
examples
of
all
of
all
three
of
those
I'm.
share
with
you.
Tonight.
O
Osbt:
a
lot
less
than
one
hundred
and
sixty-four,,
which
is
what
we
currently
have..
So
we
do
have
our
work
cut
out,
for
us.,
but
I
have,
I
can
use
to
share
it
in
that
regard.
you're,
making
progress.
um.
and
it
also
directs
us
to
develop
a
program
to
assess
and
does
any
trails,,
which
is
why
I'm
here
for
you
tonight.
O
Osbt:
when
we
set
down
two
thousand
and
eighteen
when
I
started
here
to
do
that.
we
put
together
an
interdisciplinary
core
team
before
team
is
just
really
wonderful..
I
love
working
with
them,
and
it
spans
a
lot
of
different
work
groups
and
service
areas..
So
we
get
all
the
different
ones
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
prioritize
and.
O
O
Osbt:,
the
uh,,
the
orb
target,
or
for,
as
it
were,
to
get
that
feedback
from?.
Is
this
actually
going
to
be
feasible
on
the
ground?,
so
we
have
crews
out
doing
it
to
like
thirty
thousand
level.?
Where
is
our
policy
guidance.?
What
does
this
make
sense
with
everything
else
we
have
going
on?,
so
the
core
team
is
really
the.
O
Osbt:
the
core
of
the
program
at
this
point,,
and
then
we
also
have
tons
of
folks
on
the
ground
doing
a
lot
of
work..
So
the
trail
crew
does
work
on
those
any
trails,,
especially
when
we
are
doing,.
O
Osbt:
they
could
rewrite
out
the
mesa
for
the
two
thousand
and
nineteen,
two
thousand
and
twenty..
They
took
care
of
undesigned
trails
that
were
adjacent
to
that
work.
same
thing
with
the
tender
poverty
route
and
the
enemy
reroute.
we're
taking
care
of
things.
While
we
already
have
resources
mobilized
in
the
area,,
so
we
can't
some
value
added
projects
out
of
that.
This
year.
I'm.
really
excited
that
we
were
able
to
have
to.
O
Osbt:
crew
to
staff
on
as
on
disney
trail
crew.,
that
was
the
only
thing
they
focused
on.
and
then
the
restoration
through
ipm
that
I
could
really
list
all
the
other
crews
that
we
have..
They
are
all
super
helpful.
they're
out
on
the
system..
They
have
different
lenses,
different
expertise.,
they
see
something.,
they
say
something,
and
it's
helps
us
address.
O
Osbt:,
the
merchant
trails
a
lot
faster,
and
then,
you
know,,
they
have
different
like,.
I
said
expertise.
so
they're,
seeing
our
land
system
through
different
lens,
and
if
they
see
something
that
they
think
should
be
prioritized,
they're
able
to
bring
that
forward,
and
we
can
then
adjust
our
plane.
O
Osbt:
prioritization.
we
use
approved
plans
to
the
west.
csa:,
the
north
tsa,
integrate
site
plans..
We
use
management
area
designations.,
so
hca's
ag
areas,
passive
wreck
and
natural
areas..
We
consider
national
and
cultural
resource
impacts
as
well
as
impacts
the
designated
infrastructure..
So
it's
an
undesigned
trail
messing
up
an
irrigation,
dis
for
instance,
that
would
rise
in
prioritization.,
and
so
we
take
all
that.
O
O
O
Osbt:
and
the
same
trails
are
absolutely
okay,
human
issue
that
has
natural
resource
impacts
amongst
others,,
so
we
can
get
at
the
root
cause
of
why
folks
are
using
undesigned
trails..
We
can
be
more
successful
in
storing
them
or
designating
them,
or
getting
that
management
action
that
we
want
to
have
happen,
the
behavior.
You
want
to
see.
O
Osbt:,
so
the
bottom
of
this
pyramid,
we
have
our
universal
interventions
where
we're,
we're
always
going
to
try
and
start
the
lowest
intervention
that
we
think
will
be
successful,,
and
we
know
through
studies,
that
we've
done
with
you
on
our
system.
and
then
other
studies
that
education,
programming
science.
Communication
can
have
a
really
big
impact,,
especially
if
it's
unintentional
action
that
folks
are.
O
O
Osbt:
um!
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
challenging
and
get
into
opportunist,.
So
it's
shortcuting.,
that's
like.
oh,!
I
just
wanted
to
see
that
viewpoint,
because
it
looks
cool,
or
I
see
that
there's
already
a
path
here..
I
can't
do
that.
Bad.,
similarly,,
yeah
signs,
larger
or
fences,
larger
signs
and
doing
more
active
restoration.
That
can
look
like
the
growth
control,
nettings,
waddles,
definitely.
O
Osbt:
and
it
just,
osbt:,
you
know,
escalates
a
little
bit
from
there..
If
that
doesn't
work,
we're,
maybe
adding
a
second
layer,
fence.
we're
going
back,
and
repairing
anything.
That's
been
broken.
if
a
planting
scale
or
they
don't
survive,
or
going
back
and
doing
iterative.
restoration,
efforts.
and
then,.
You
know
we're
not
there
yet.,
but
we
do
have
some
options
in
terms
of
regulatoryly
closing
an
area,
and
that's
in
part
of
things
to
the
updated
city
manager,
rule.
O
O
Osbt:,
monitor
of
one
zone,
every
year.,
so
zones
two,,
three,
and
five
um,,
so
that
kind
of
the
bottom
southern
area.,
that's
all
been
monitored
to
third
time..
So
we
do
have
three
data
points
that
we
can
compare
apples
to
apples.
um!.
There
were
monitoring
efforts
before
two
thousand
and
twelve,,
but
they
use
a
different
methodology,.
So
we
can't
actually
compare.
O
O
O
O
O
O
Osbt:,
so
we
put
it
out
for
three
weeks.
we
put
up
some
fencing
on
either
end
up,
for
that
did
active
erosion
through
the
site,
line,
and
then
left
it
up
for
another
three
weeks..
This
is
a
graph
of.
O
O
Osbt:,
it's
not
that
great
of
a
story
yet,
though,,
because
we
were
a
little
suspicious,
in
fact,
that
it
had
flatlined.
So
someone
new
to
the
right.
no,,
I
have
a
photo.
I'm
about
to
show
you.
um!,
there's
a
couple
of
reasons
why
this
could
happen.
um!
the
counter
going
to
fail.
turns
out
that
spider
is
really
low.
O
O
Osbt:
for
all
conversations
we
have
with
the
community,
because
they
don't
like
that.
we're
restoring
their
trails,,
but
they
really
like
um,.
Even
if
we
are
guided
by
all
the
plans
in
the
world.
that
usually
doesn't
matter
how
you
feel
them
when
we're
out
there..
So
it's
something
that
our
crew
deals,
with.
they're
handling
it
like
champions.
um,,
but
it's.
O
O
O
Osbt:
um.,
and
so
it
turns
out
that
humans
are
not
the
only
thing
that
we
need
to
worry
about..
There
is
it?,
you
can'
out
there
that
knocked
it
over,,
which
is
a
job
hazard
where
we
have
fencing,
and
that
we're
trying
to
resort
and
does
a
new
trails
where
we're
having
gracing
operations.
Is,
adds
a
whole.
another
layer
of
complexity.
That.
O
Osbt:,
I
would
have
never
thought
I
could
be
dealing
with
osbt:
several
years.
Ago.
O
Osbt:,
so
what
we've
been
able
to
do.
O
Osbt:
it's
two
thousand
and
twelve,,
so
we've
applied
restoration
treatments
to
about
ten
miles
underneath
the
trails..
I
do
want
to
be
clear
that
this
doesn't
mean
that
we've
gone
in
and
like
dug
up
ten
miles
of
trail,
and
to
clean
things
down
and
actually
restored.
Them..
Our
ecological
best
management
practices
guide
us
to
do
the
sidelines.
so
where
we
think,.
O
Osbt:,
as
far
as
you
can
see,
to
the
active
restoration
there
and
then
passive
recreation,
past
that,
and
that
looks
like,
raking
native
pulch
over
the
trail..
If
it's
appropriate,
dropping
trees,,
so
they
should
obscure
the
trail.
O
Osbt:
um.,
we
also
were
able
to
utilize
funding
from
great
outdoor
colorado.,
so
we
were
able
to
buy
a
bunch
of
pissing
material
when
lumber
prices
were
sky
high
last
summer,
that
was
awesome.
we
put
in
about
four
thousand
miles.
no,,
not
that
would
be
really
impressive..
Four
thousand
peace,
offense.
O
O
O
O
Osbt:
provide
you
folks,
uh,,
because
this
is
the
first
year
we
had
undesignated
dedicated
folks
working
on
the
ground..
I
thought
it
was
not
important
to
keep
track
of..
How
are
we
spending
your
time?
uh?
and,
as
this.
O
O
O
Osbt:
monitoring,
that's
scoping,
new
work,
checking
out
previous
work,
and
then
a
lot
of
volunteer
leadership
and
not
in
significant
amount
of
training
to
get
folks
up
to
speed..
We
are
across
many
different
work,
groups,
different
disciplines,
and
you
get
somebody
oriented
to
the
system
and
complexities.
O
O
Osbt:
law
school,
just
one
that
we've
already
done,
and
then
we're
looking
forward
to
designing
and
building
the
shannon
area,
and
does
any
trails
that.
O
O
Osbt:
trail
building
skills
that
we'll
use
that
bundling
is
all
together
will
be
really
good,
effective
use
of
our
time.
O
Osbt:
um!,
you
can
see
this
is
at
least
twenty
feet,,
not
thirty
feet
wide
of
total
impact
before
we
designated
that
staircase,
or
built
that
staircase,
and
put
that
in
there.-
and
this
is
all
the
way
from
law
school
up
to
cathedral
park,,
where
it's
period
in
the
width,,
but
it
was
up
to
thirty
feet
wide..
I
think
it
was
a
really
good
example
of.
O
O
O
O
Osbt:
in
fact,
in
the
zero.,
that
is
a
permanent
non-traal
infrastructure
road
that
is
used
to..
I
can't
actually
remember
what
this
goes
to,,
but
it
is
at
white
rocks.
it
goes,,
maybe
to
a
ditch.
um!.
That's
not
an
undesigned
trail.
People
are
not
hiking
on
it.
we're
not
going
to
restore
that.
we're,
certainly
not
going
to
designate
it
as
a
place
to
go..
So
it
doesn't
really
want
this
data
set,.
We
take
that
out
and
put
that
in
its
own
data
set
where
it
can
be
managed
as
a
non
like
a
permanent
montreal
infrastructure.
O
O
O
Osbt:
and
then
the
picture
on
the
right
is
also
a
trail..
If
you
sweat
hard
enough,,
it
goes
up
the
hillbilly
rock,
which
is
the
timing.
Access.
there's
bolted
route
back
there,
and
this
pathway
was
approved
through
the
mou
with
the
planning
council
to
get
climbers
back
to
that
route.
Again..
This
is
not
something
you
would,.
O
Osbt:
because
it's
this
route.
so,,
looking
at
timing
access
a
little
bit
more
holistically,
instead
of
just
shoving
in
that,
doesn't
get
trail.
They
set.
is
a
project
that
is
starting
this
year
that
we
excited
about
the
outcome
of
that.
O
O
O
Osbt:
and
so
they
spend
it
about
six
weeks
out
there
and
be
connected
to
soil,
reconnecting
the
lands
that
the
water
slowed.
Down.
all
is
going
down
the
hillside
and
creating
some
different
like
soil,,
moisture
levels
for
different
plants.,
and
then
they
added
check
dams,
and
before,
during
an
after
photo.
O
Osbt:,
the
before
is,,
it's
beer,
ground?,
it's
really
compacted,
and
nothing's
going
to
grow
there.
they
area
the
soil..
They
add
to
check
the
amps
recon
toward
the
erosion,
heading
down,
and
they
covered
that
erosion,
thatning
with
native
mulch.
O
Osbt:
uh,,
maybe
we
will
up
soon,
too
much
fun,
osbt:,
but
it
looks
really
good,
and
you
don't
notice
it
anymore.,
so
acting
as
a
really
good
marcus,,
when
this
work
is
that
you
just
walk
right
by
the
fence
on
either
end,,
and
you
don't
know
that
that
was
horrible
scar
before
and
out
hopefully.
we'll
see
some
growth
that
get
moisture
in
time.
Soon.
um!
of
the
things
that
are
in
the
area
like.
O
O
O
O
Osbt:
there's
a
couple
of
social
trails
that
go
right
through
prime
habitat
for
them,,
not
necessarily
species
populations,,
but
the
actual
habitat.
uh,,
and
we
again
need
to
designate
one,
but
restore
the
rest..
So
we
picked
one.
O
O
Osbt:
the
most
excited,
awesome.,
so
I
also
kind
of
text
our
while
there
are
plant
folks
like
this
is
not
a
weed
right
like
I
should
be
excited
about
this.
yeah..
So
I
I
just
think
this
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
big
ones,
and
we're
actually
going
back.
O
O
Osbt:
um.
next
steps
are
always
really
important.,
so
in
two
thousand
and
twenty-four
we'll
be
back.
um,.
I
say
we
because
I
will
be
bringing
jaking
over
with
me..
Who
will
you
talk
to
me
about
the
system?
wide
mapping
and
the
update?
all
that.,
all
the
trails
and
probably
bring
another
operations,
update
and
programmatic
update
with
anything?
That's
changed.
O
O
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
hey?
thank
you,,
hilary.
um.,
michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):.
I
realize
that
this
is
a
very,,
very
complex
topic,
and
I'm
learning
more
about
this,,
and
I
appreciate
your
time,
and
the
very
thorough
memo
on
it.
N
N
O
Osbt:
a
little
bit
of
all
of
it.,
so
the
visitor
mash
plan
also
said
that
there
was
two.,
there's
three
hundred
miles
of
trails,
which
we
since
use
different
methodologies,
and
that
that
was
actually
like
a
way
over
for
exaggeration.
what
was
happening?.
There
was
a
bunch
of
cattle
trails
that
were
mapped,
and
a
bunch
of
other
things
that
we're
not
in
there
any
trails.
O
Osbt:
um!
so
osbt:,
the
fifty
miles,
I
think,
is
still
a
good
target.
um,,
but
I
don't
know
that
they
were
thinking
about
the
fact
that
there
was
a
bunch
of
pros
and
a
bunch
of
this
or
that.
um,.
I
can't
really
speak
to
that
necessarily,,
but
in
terms
of
it
still
being
a
good
target,,
I
think
it
is
a
good
target
to
go
through,,
but
I
think
it's
worth
revisiting.
O
Osbt:,
what
does
it
look
like,,
especially
with
how
our
system
is
changing,
and
how
we
have
more
visitation??
I
think
it's
worth
revisiting.
what?.
What
does
you
know
success?
Look
like
is
this:
we
get
down
to
something,,
then
we
maintain
it,
or
is
this:
get
out
of
zero,,
which
I
don't
think
is
even
possible,.
O
N
N
O
Osbt:
yes,
um!.
I
don't
know
that
number
on
the
top
of
my
head,,
but
I
think
we
have
now
inventory
to
all
of
them,
and
decided
well,.
Both
we
both
inventory
to
everything
that
is
broadly
people
are
using
to
get
to
places.
now,,
whether
or
not
that's
through
the
approved
route.
That's
in
the
mo.
you
or
not
is
a
different.
O
O
Osbt:,
how
how
much
of
that
mileage
is
stuff
that
we
would
consider
keeping
how
much
of
it
is
not.
and
then,
to
your
point,
there's
been
some
funded
research
or
grant
research
about
how
often
do
non
climbers
use
climbing
trails.
O
O
Osbt:
trails,,
but
not
we
can't
see
it.,
it's
only
climbers,
because
it
will
be.
Anybody
could
go
back,
there.
and
yeah,.
How
do
we
just
manage
that??
It
is
definitely
more
of
the
most
complicated
one.
I'm
like
to
interject
here,,
because
it's
directly
relevant
to
michelle's
question.,
but
back
in
the
visitor
master
plan.
B
B
B
B
O
O
Osbt:
but,
uh,:
you
can
see
that
the
especially
in
the
meadow
where
we
designate
some
trails
motor
trail
got
designated,,
and
then
we
were
really
able
to
get
folks
onto
the
those
main
trails
in
chicago
area..
That's
all
been
cleared
up.,
but
for
the
climbing
access
stuff,.
So
especially
around
saddle
rock
amphitheatre..
That's
still.
O
B
B
Osbt:,
it
does
a
lot
of
trails
and
de
vegetating
that
areas
right?
yes,,
and
so
especially
in
this
area,.
The
saddle
rock
area.
we're
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
served
in
the
restoration.
there
is.
we
are
doing
a
designated
trail
reroute,
like
people
since
project
managing
that's
right.
Next
year.
it's
going
to
be
a
multi-year
bill.
and
so
we're
dovetailing
those
two
together
and
giving
folks
the
designate
trailing
goes
the
area
we
want
to
go..
We
can.
O
O
Osbt:
not
does
any
trails
that
go
around
some
of
those
climbing
areas
through
the
designate
trail
and
building
that
to
to
support
the
use,.
B
F
Osbt:,
I
will
say
I
can't
speak
to
the
two
thousand,
and
five
is
their
master,
plan,,
michelle,
and
and
uh,
in
fact,
hillary's
right
with,,
when
the
assessment
was
done,.
F
Osbt:,
if
a
road
quote
supported
trail
activity.
in
other
words,,
if
there
were
pedestrians
on
it,,
it
was
included
in
the
undes
native
trail.
category..
If
it
was
just
the
farm
road
that
you
know.
O
Osbt:
right,
cool.
osbt:,
if
I,,
if
I
may
say,
something.
so
karen
saying
that
it's
looking
at
the
the
math
equation
of
in
two
thousand
and
twelve.,
there
was
one
hundred
and
seventy
eight
miles
that
were
mapped,
and
then
the
two
thousand
and
eighteen
survey.
We
had
one
hundred
and
sixty-four.
So
you
just
look
at
that,
and
only
that
piece
of
excellent.
we've
lost
fourteen
miles..
How
great
is
that?,
but
that's
not
full
story,,
because
I
had
forty-five
new
miles,
of.
O
Osbt:
and
then
fifty-nine
miles
that
we
either
actually
restored
with
designated
or
restored
on
their
own..
So
it's
very
you
would
around
the
edges.,
so
one
hundred
and
eighteen
of
those
miles.,
that's.
Why
are
really
born,
and
like
people
have
been
going
it
for
years.
O
Osbt:,
it's
like
the
centuries.
um,,
so
it's
again.
it's
working
at
those
margins
of
you're
right..
We
do
need
to
figure
out..
How
do
we
tackle
emergent
trails?
and
now
that
we
have
step
on,
and
we
have
more
eyes,
and
we're
raising
the
awareness.?
We're
able
to
do
that?
A
lot
better.
and
we've
done
that,.
I
think.
O
Osbt:
um.,
but
having
a
really
clean
data
set
where
we
know
where
all
the
trails
are,,
because
they
are
so
kind
of
fuzzy
around
the
edges,
so
really
important,,
which
is
why
the
timing
access,
the
rose,,
getting
everything
where
it
really
is
going
to
be
also
really
important
to
really
honing
out.
What?
What
is
our
actually,.
O
B
B
Osbt:,
I
I
think,
it's.,
I
think,
you're
doing
really
important
work,
not
only
restoring
trails,
but
monitoring
them
to
find
out.
Then
what
happens,,
but
also
the
preventative.
B
Osbt:
and
I
mean,,
obviously,
cows
can't
resign.,
but
I'm
working
on
that
some
people
do
it,
and
and
um,.
B
And
outreach
rangers
and
that
whole
crowd.
B
Osbt:
or
yes.
so,
and
what
kind
of
work
are
they
planning
and
doing??
That's
an
um,,
an
excellent
question..
So
the
lnt
study,
if
I
run
familiar
in
two
thousand
and
fifteen,
was
done,,
and
it
was
in
part
that
messaging
piece
that
you're
talking
about
like
what
is
the
most
effective
message
for
changing
behavior,
and
they
found
that.
I
think
it
was.
O
Osbt:,
it
was
up
in
the
ninety
percent
was..
It
was
most
effective
with
one
particular
head
message,
and
then
offense
a
barrier..
So
that's
really
where
we're
starting
from
in
terms
of
like
and
that
kind
of
messages.
I
might
have
to
look
up
specifically,,
but
it
was,.
You
know
they.
They
did
proscript
it
prescriptive,.
You
know.,
please
don't
colors..
I
don't
actually
colors.
but
or
recently
there's
been
a
lisa.
O
Osbt:
is
that
correct?
you
person
has
been
working
with
other
agencies
around
here,
because
they're
also
dealing
with
this
on
a
voice
and
messaging
what
it's
perspective..
How
do
we
communicate
that?
and
so
that
we
are
actually
trying
to
to
find
to
that
and
get
that
out,
and
then
have
enough
signage
that
makes
sense,,
but
not
so
much
that
it's
too
confusing,
and
also
make
it
easy
enough
that
it
doesn't.
just
have
to
be
my
crew.
That's
going
on
doing
this.,
it
can
be
rangers.,
it
can
be
volunteers,
like
any
other.
J
B
B
B
B
B
B
Osbt:-
and
I
know
that
it's
pretty
leak
free.,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
for
long.
so,
for
all
those
reasons,.
I
think
it
deserves
some
attention,,
even
though
you
can't
see
a
social
trailer.
okay.,
so
preventing
a
minor
pattern
of
use
from
becoming
an
established,
and
there
are
other
places
on
the
system.
B
B
F
O
O
Osbt:,
so
how
do
we
start
getting
that
recording
mechanism
tightened
up
so
that
we
can
go
out
because
everybody
has
their
different
lens.?
You
know
wildlife
calls
by
the
property
name,
and
I'm
like,.
I
don't
know
what.
What
is
the
trail
that
I
don't
know
like
will
show
me
on
a
map.,
so
figuring
out,.
How
do
we
communicate?
exactly
um,
so
that
we
can
go.
well,
we're
taking
a
picture
and
having
coordinates
attached
to
the
picture.
B
F
F
O
O
O
M
M
M
F
F
F
Osbt:
it.,
it
certainly
is
no
longer
that
valid.
As
far
as
protecting
france
or
legal.,
I
mean,.
I
just
thought
over
the
original
wildlife
parks
a
while
right,
now.
F
F
F
Osbt:
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
the
on
the
condition
by
our
dream.
yes,
you
in
the
memo.,
it's
it..
He
tappers.
O
Osbt:,
the
underlying
trail,
monitoring,
the
one
on
the
left
is,,
where
are
the
trails??
So
that's
going
out
with
the
gps
unit
and
marking
every
five
hundred
feet
or
that,,
and
that
gives
us
a
little
little
pile
of
spaghetti
is
draw
all
affectionately,
calling
him
now
the
heat
tap
um..
He
has
a
high
efficiency.
O
O
O
O
Osbt:
there's
class
low,,
medium,
and
high.
It's
vegetation.
cover
with
of
the
actual
tread
that
one
was
tiny,,
the
other
one's
bigger
incisions
with
their
active
erosion
happening.,
and
then
I
think,
kind
of
the
some
extra
extra
credit
is,.
Do
you
see
signs
of
me??
So
you
see
what
prince
paul
prince
by
tracks.
O
O
Osbt:
yeah.
and
then
the
other
things
that
go
into
this
like
data
set..
So
I
really
know
where
we
need
to
apply
resources
to
sites,
specific
monitoring.,
so
that
was
actually
going
out
and
looking
at.
O
F
F
F
Osbt:
value
in
the
community
surveys:
it's
always
protection,
the
wildlife
habitat.
and,
and
so,
if
we're
showing
that
there's
a
trails
impact
wildlife
habit
that.
F
F
F
O
Osbt:
um,,
I
think
one
of
the
caveats
I
have
with
that
data
set
is
that
because
sometimes
the
undes,
the
intros
are
so
hard
to
distinguish
from
designated
trails..
We
come
in,
and
we're
like
great.
we're
going
to
close
on
design
trails,,
but
not
that
one
that
one
was
my
trail.
um!,
and
so
I
do
think
the
right
that
is
not
insignificant
amount
of
things
that
might
happen,
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
this
year's
um.
O
Osbt:,
I
don't
know
what
the
acronym
the
posts,
like
the
the
really
in
depth
like
in
that
access
survey,
all
that
collecting
together,,
because
there
are
several
questions
about
that.,
that
the
human
dimensions
folks
are
doing
really
excited
to
dig
into
that..
B
O
Osbt:
generally
speaking,
to
the
restoration
crew
works
under
megan,
bows,
and
they're,
doing
much
more
like
broad
scale.,
yeah.
yeah.,
so
they,
however,
they're
really
good
like
when
we
need
to
like
specific
knowledge
or
equipment
or
anything
like
that,,
they're,
really
good
about
sharing
resources.
um,,
and
they
also
like
to
go
through
that
plans,.
And
so
they
help
us
out
and
figure
out
what
what's
most
appropriate
here
here,
and
here
they
help
to
do
the
work..
So
my
question,
is,
what?.
B
J
Osbt:
so?
no,,
no
right.,
but
most
uh,,
many
of
our
trail,
crews
in
general
are
are
rely
on.
J
I
I
M
G
C
L
J
J
Osbt:
we
have
a
thirty,
five
minute
kind
of.
K
J
Osbt:
beautiful.
okay,,
all
right.,
so
we're
gonna
get
started.
how?
a
a
second
visit
from
our
vitality
team.
and
I
think
I'm
turning
that
right.
Over
to
chris
jones,
interim
director
of
community
vitality.
R
Osbt:
yeah.
good
evening,
trustees.,
I'm
chris
jones,
the
and
I'm.
director
of
community
vitality..
I
am
joined
this
evening
by
sam
bromber
for
community
vitality
and
marty
ratsel
from
open
spaces
here
also
for
uh,
emotional
support
behind
it.
um!.
We
are
here
to
share
our
progress.
um!
on
our
apps
implementation
work..
This
is
actually,.
I
believe,
our
first
time
presenting
formally
to
the
trustees
on
these
topics
that
we've
been
provided.
R
Osbt:
pursuing
performance
based
on
street
pricing
and
then
residential
access
management,
which
are
the
two
strategies
that
were
supported
by
city
council
last
year,
and
within
our
residential
access
management.
Work,.
There
is
a
topic
specifically
around
trail
access,
management.,
so
sam
has
been
doing
a
ton
of
work..
We
hired
her
a
year
ago
to
lead
these
specific
strategies
for
community
by.
R
Osbt:
um,
she's
been
doing
a
ton
of
work,
and
it's
been
on.
The
the
road
show
sharing
this
work
with
boards
and
commissions
across
the
city,
and
we're
going
to
city
council
on
november
third..
So
this
is
our
opportunity
to
share
with
you
our
work
that
relates,
specifically
to
open
space
trail
heads
as
we
are
compiling
and
put
that
we'll
share
with
council
in
november..
So
with
that,
I
will
hand
it
over
to
sam.
H
H
Osbt:,
so
here's
just
an
overview
of
what
I'll
be
talking
to
you
about
tonight.
I'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today.
I'll
talk
about
the
residential
access
management,
program.,
um,
and
then
I'll
jump
into
trial
access
management.
What
the
next
steps
are,
and
open
it
up
for
some
questions.
H
H
Osbt:,
the
community
played
an
integral
role
in
developing
and
refining
strategies,
for
tracking,
pricing,
and
permitting
through
a
variety
of
engagement
and
methods
between
polls
and
questionnaires.
Meeting
with
community
organizations,
boards,
and
commissions.,
three
strategies
emerged
as
the
best
ways
to
reflect
the
am
suspicion.
H
Osbt:,
the
three
of
them
strategies
were
performance-based,
pricing,
graduated
and
safety,
mobility,
fines
and
priority
based
neighborhood
access
management.
Today,
we'll
be
talking
about
priority-based
neighborhood
access
management,
the
strategy,
which
is
the
basis
for
the
new
residential
access
management
program
or
rent.
H
Osbt:
congested
parking
has
a
social
cost
greater
than
the
inconvenience
of
losing
time,
trying
to
find
a
space..
The
active
driving
around,
looking
for
parking
creates
an
environmental
impact,,
adding
extra
vehicle
miles
travel
to
any
trip
which
emits
additional
greenhouse
gases..
This
cruising
behavior
can
lead
to
conflict
with
other
users
of
the
curve,,
such
as
bikers
and
pedestrians..
H
H
Osbt:
mit
ctl
and
ramp-like
performance-based
pricing
takes
a
data-driven
approach
to
manage
parking
in
our
residential
neighborhoods.
It
is
built
on
an
annual
assessment
of
the
entire
city
based
on
key
metrics,,
such
as
parking
occupancy,,
high-trip,,
generating
land
use
and
resident
or
staff
identified
areas
of
the
trust.
one.
H
H
H
H
Osbt:,
so
what
is
parking
occupancy,
osbt:
imagine.?
These
rows
of
cars
are
curved
spaces..
The
top
curve
is
one
hundred
percent
occupied..
There
are
no
available
spaces.
middle
curve.
It's
just
over
eighty-five,
occupied
there's
one
space,,
but
depending
on
on
how
other
cars
are
parked.,
it
might
be
tough
to
access..
The
bottom
curve
is
sixty
percent
occupied,.
H
Osbt:
over
the
last
year,
staff
have
been
busy
building
a
rare
program
from
the
ground
up,,
starting
with
the
annual
city-wide
assessment
staff
collected
parking
occupancy
data
from
thirty-eight
unique
study
areas
containing
over
one
thousand
block
faces.
this
being
a
new
program
and
having
never
conducted
a
collection
on
a
scale,
step
to
into
consulting
for
help
with
the
data
analysis,.
H
Osbt:
to
understand
the
trends
of
parking
occupancy.,
the
data
was
analyzed
by
season,
day
of
week
and
time
of
day,
resulting
in
twelve
categories.
in
each
category
the
maps
display
the
p
or
highest
observed
occupancy..
These
occupancy
trends
will
help
staff,
and
the
public
understand
when
these
areas
are
most
utilized,.
H
H
Osbt:
mit
ctl
and
as
ramp,
expands
it's
approach
to
look
at
access
by
the
neighborhoods
adjacent
to
highly
utilized
those
appeal
and
should
be
studied,.
Since
many
of
us
and
petrell
areas
do
not
have
access
options
beyond
the
personal
people.,
it
would
be
osmp
visitors
that
would
feel
the
impacts
of
any
parking
management
implemented
in
those
areas.
One
hundred
and
fifty.
H
H
Osbt:
the
map
displayed
in
this
slide
shows
access
points
in
the
shanahan
ridge
and
double
some
area,
along
with
their
daily
average
visitation
numbers
in
the
boundaries
of
city.
linux.
These
staff
identified
locations
were
included
in
a
preliminary
ramp
study
to
determine
whether
there
is
any
significant
parking
impacts
or
spillovers
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
H
H
H
H
Osbt:
here
we
can
see
the
sanitus
in
dakota
rich
areas..
There
are
ten
access
points
in
addition
to
the
centennial
trail
hand,
which
services
area
overall
occupancy
levels
are
between.
Fifty
to
seventy
percent
of
peak,
observed
time.,
those
certain
blocks
are
much
higher
than
others,,
especially
those
closest
to
the
centennial
trail
head,.
H
H
Osbt:
overall,
the
initial
results
rate
most
trial
access
areas
with
lower
optimal
parking
utilization.
By
creating
this
in
her
departmental
worker.,
we
can
further
study
these
results,
understand.
What
are
the
relevant
studies
or
data
should
be
accounted
for
in
studying
these
trail
areas
as
well
as
factor
and
community
concerns.
Frequently
heard
from
some
of
these
areas.
H
H
Osbt:,
so
study
locations
have
already
been
identified
and
studied
for
two
thousand
and
twenty-two
um..
The
next
step
is
the
camp
evaluation..
We
can't
pilot
evaluation..
We
just
slated
to
kick
off
this
fall.
once
again
by
the
transportation
and
mobility
department.
H
H
H
Osbt:-
and
these
are
the
next
steps
for
all
of
the
programs
that
we're
working
on
implementing
along
with
ramp.,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
the
communications
plan
to
inform
the
public
of
the
upcoming
changes.
H
H
H
H
Osbt:,
I'm
happy
to
address
those
before
we
get
into
the
input
from
the
board.
N
N
G
H
Osbt:,
the
specific
feedback
related
to
trail
access
management
with
general
support.
um..
We
also
presented
on
a
number
of
other
topics
that
committee
by
telesoft
we're
working
on,,
namely,
performance-based
pricing
and
the
residential
access
management
program.
um..
So
there
was
less
comments
for
this
trust
management
other
than
that
general
support..
H
Osbt:,
the
data
that
we've
collected
for
ramp
is
just
the
parking
occupancy
data
that
that
was
our
first
kind
of
step
to
see.
Where
might
there
be
a
problem.
we're
sort
of
fishing
around
to
see
um.?
Where
are
the
areas
that
indicate
that
there
might
be
spillover
that
we
want
to
dig
into
a
little
bit
deeper.
um!,
but
we
also
recognize
that
we
can't
do
this
in
a
vacuum
with
just
community
vitality.,
and
so
that
was
the
idea
behind
the
work
group
as
we
need
the
expertise
from
open
space.
H
Osbt:
staff,
who
know
the
areas
a
little
bit
better
and
can
maybe
tell
us.
you
know
we're,
maybe
we're
looking.
um..
We
need
to
look
at
different
times,
or
what
else
we
need
to
take
into
consideration..
My
my
biggest
concern
is
for
the
people
who
live
adjacent
to
these
trail.
Heads,.
B
B
Osbt:
the
other
thing
that
doesn't
seem
quite
fair
to
me.
If
I've
read
it
correctly,.
B
B
H
Osbt:
community,
by
telesoft
or
any
staff,
for
that
matter,
cannot
implement
any
parking
management
strategies
without
it
support
from
those
residents
that
support
comes
in
a
number
of
ways.,
so
the
first.
The
first
metric
is
the
petition.,
that's
what
you
said.
yes,,
and
so
when
there's
a
petition,
and
the
neighborhood
meets
all
of
the
key
performance
indicators,
that's
uh,!
That's
where
we
will
move
ahead.,
then
the
next
step,
is,.
H
H
Osbt:
then,,
we
actually
go
through
a
public
process.,
so
we
notify
all
of
the
residents
in
the
area
and
say,.
This
is
what
we're
proposing..
We
need
your
feedback..
We
need
your
public
comment,
and
there's
a
period
where
that's
open
so
that
people
can
provide
their
input.,
whether
or
not
they
sign
the
petition,,
because
not
everyone,
mike
occurred..
We
take
all
that
to
the
transportation
advisory
board
in
a
public
hearing,.
H
B
R
Osbt:,
that
is
always
been
a
part
of
our
implementation
process
for
any
of
our
managed
neighborhoods
in
the
city..
We
have
thirteen
of
them.,
think
of
camp.,
so
the
chatauqua
area,
where,
so
shanahan
ridge,,
similar
to
the
chicago
area,,
has
impacts
with
parking
associated
with
the
trail
head..
And
how
did
you
get
started.
R
Osbt:,
we
get
a
number
of
complaints,
we
have..
We
have
staff
that
needs
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
in
neighborhoods
that
have
parking
challenges
currently..
So
we
we
have
a
lot
of
information
that
comes
in
because
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
currently
experiencing
parking
challenges.,
and
so
we
manage
on
street
parking
and
enforcement
throughout
the
entire
city..
So
on
complaints
well,,
we
we
used
to
be
a
citizen-driven,
petition,,
process.
those.
and
now
we're
moving
to,.
H
Osbt:
we're.
we're
attempting
to
move
to
this
proactive
database
of
data
driven
process,
and
that
that
switch
was
the
revitalizing
access
in
boulder
work
that
began
in
two
thousand
and
nineteen,
and
then.
H
Osbt:
did
all
the
community
engagement,
and
ultimately
went
to
council,
and
was
approved
in
two
thousand
and
twenty-one.,
so
that
was
the
switch
between
our
previous
one
and
our
current
one..
So
now
we
are
a
current
program.
Looks
at
what
data
can
we
use
to
inform
us
where
we
might
want
to
go
out
and
just
measure
parking
occupancy
to
see??
Is
there?
Could
there
be
spillover?
um?
so
right
now
we're
not
proposing
any
changes,
we're
just
making.
we're
just
going
out
to.
H
Osbt:
trying
to
be
proactive
and
equitable,
and
how
we
manage
parking
across
the
entire
city.
and
what
metrics
can
we
look
at
to
see
if
there
might
be
spill
over
impact
in
a
certain
neighborhood?
um!?
So
that's
the
hopefully,
that
helps
how
we
got
here.
H
H
H
Osbt:
well,,
that's
that
would
be
the
work
of
the
trail.
Access
management
work
group
is
to
determine
what
that
looks.
Like,.
What
the
engagement
looks:
like.
um!,
how
we
go
about
it,
because,,
as
I
said,
community
by
tell
you,,
should
not
be
working
in
a
back
end.
when
it
comes
to
public
use
land,.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
consulting.
R
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):.
I
I
appreciate
the
process
of
trying
to
get
like
broad
input
from
the
community,
just
recognizing
that
access
to
these
trails,,
like
I
think
there
was
something
in
the
memo
about
the
bobble
link
residents..
As
soon
as
they
were
a
few
blocks
off,
they
would
drive,.
I
mean,
in
my
in
my
world
like
getting
people
out
of
cars,,
particularly
those
huge
cars
that
take
up
a
lot
of
spaces
in
the
parkland,
is,
is
the
way
to
go,,
but
also
being
mindful
of.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
those
those
people
who
live
very
close
to
those
very
valuable
trail.
Heads
live
on
prime
real
estate.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt,
(she/her):
and
um.,
and
those
people,
for
example,
who
live
in
east
boulder,
need
to
drive
to
get
to
those
trail
heads,
and
making
sure
that
we
are
considering
all
the
taxpayers
who
who
contribute
to
those
public
lands
and
not
charging
one-sided,
because
they
can't
walk
to
the
trail
head..
They
have
to
drive
to
the
trail
head
absent
or
you
know..
If
there
is
a
bus,
there.
the
the
local
residents,
don't
have
to
do
that
because
they
live
on
on
the.
N
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
these
multi
million
dollar
properties,
in
which
other
residents
have
to
drive,
to
get
to.
so,,
keeping
that
in
mind,.
I
think
you're
on
the
right
track
and
trying
to
get
broad
input
and
and
exploring
how
you
you
know,
through
different
working
groups,,
how
you
can
get
to
a
fair
resolution.
F
Osbt:,
it
strikes
me,,
at
least
at
this
point,,
that
there
are
three
primary
places:
the
open
space
access
license
that.
F
osbt:,
but
if
I'm
reading
your
memo
correctly,
all
of
all
the
open
space
access.
F
Osbt:
areas,
points
osbt:
reside
rather
more
in
the
overall
evaluation
of.
F
R
Osbt:,
I
think
that's
I
mean
it's
certainly
a
better
feedback
based
on
the
information
that
we've
been
able
to
present
as
far
um,
and
that's
again
why
we
want
to
assemble
the
trail.
Access
management
work
group
to
to
make
sure
that
that
is
the
case,,
and
that
would
be
our
next
step
is
to
come
back
to
you
all
with
more
information.
um!.
Some
of
these
challenges,
I
think,
made
it.
they've
been
exacerbated
during
the
pandemic.
R
Osbt:,
possibly
shifting,,
and
so
maybe
those
challenges
are
itself
correcting,
and
we
might
find
ourselves
in
space
where
trail
heads
are
not
the
priority,
or
is
a
little..
We
would
share
that
information
with
you.
um!
as
we
move
forward.
G
G
Caroline
miller:
that
comes
with
it,,
so
kudos
for
tackling
it,,
because
it's
certainly
a
tough
one.
um,
you
know,,
especially
in
boulder.
I
I
saw
in
here,
and.
G
G
G
Caroline
miller:
have
another
municipality?
that
you
could
speak
to
that?
um,
you
know,
does
have
a
lot
of
open
space
land
that
implemented,
something
that
either
worked
or
didn't.
Work,
you
know.
um,,
just
to
kind
of
know
what
was
going.
On.
um,.
H
H
H
Osbt:
other
other
cities
that
might
be
doing
something
more,.
I
would
say,
if
each
front
communities,
quite
often
have
these
types
of
challenges
in
residential
areas.
next
to
natural
features
that
are
very
open,.
It's
just
water,
as
opposed
to.
G
G
Caroline
miller:
kind
of
what
the
studies
caroline
miller:,
that
it
happened
prior,
are,
are
showing.
H
Osbt:,
I
don't
know.
if
so,
there's,
there's
two
different
programs
that
are
happening
and
performance
based
pricing..
That's
certainly
the
case
with
the
pricing
being
the
sweet
spot
of
trying
to
get
the
occupancy
levels
on
each
block
to
be
within
a
certain
optimal
range
with
residential
access
management
program.
That's
not
so
much
about
pricing.,
it's
more
about
making
sure
that
parking,
occupancy
levels
aren't
so
high
that
residents
are
having
a
hard
time
accessing
their
homes
because
they
can't.
H
H
Osbt:
use
of
resources
for
us
to
be
there.,
so
that's
where
residential
access
management
program
comes
in.,
it's
more
looking
at
the
parking,
occupancy,
sweet
spot
and
the
access
sweet
spot,,
so
that
everyone
has
an
ability
to
get
to
these
places,,
whether
they
come
by
vehicle
or
by
other
means.
um,,
like
the
transportation
demand,
management.
um!,
so
that
could
be
bike
by
pedestrian
by
bus..
There's
a
number
of
different
other
access
options,
available.
G
G
Caroline
miller:
in
my
head
that
the
option
of
having
a
bike
rack
close
to
anything
where
we're
trying
to
do
parking,,
because
then
you
have
another
option,
is
a
great
idea.
um!.
But
I
don't
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
say,.
G
N
J
J
Osbt:
all
right.
we're
going
to
wrap
it
up..
I
just
got
one.
quick
verbal
announcement..
This
is
to
kind
of
keep
you
up
with
our
travel
relations.
J
Osbt:
programming.
uh,,
since
we
last
met
we
had,
another
conversation
with
tribal
representatives
about
our
memorandum
of
understanding,
work.
uh,.
We
had
two
in
september..
Both
were
geared
towards
meeting
with
representatives
that
were
unable
to
join
us
for
a
march
consultation,
and
bringing
them
up
speed
on
what
happened
in
march,
gathering
some
more
what
that
they
might
have,
and
really
gearing
ourselves
towards.
J
Osbt:,
how
does
acceptance
of
this
mou
work
on
there,
and
and
gaining
support
from
their
tribal
leaders
and
the
folks
that
ultimately
make
decisions.?
So
we
kind
of
have
that
discuss
two
discussions
to
september.
bill
yates
is
going
to
be
preparing
you
all
a
memo,
more
comprehensively,
and
travel
relations.
J
Osbt:,
even
on
other
issues
other
than
our
our
consultation
work
around
the
memorandum
of
understanding.,
so
we'll
be
back
in
november
with
a
written
information
packet..
That's
that's
more
comprehensive.!
That
provides
this
summary
that
I'm
just
giving
you
very
high
level
verbally,,
but
also
we'll
talk
to
you
about
some
of
our
other
chapel
relations
work..
So
look
forward
to
that
in
that
next
month's
packet.
J
J
J
Osbt:
for
two
day,
and
one
day
is
they've
indicated
to
us
that
they
would
like
to
get
out
onto
our
system,,
and
this
is
some
sites
of
interest..
So
one
day
will
be
a
field
trip
orientated
to
get..
Have
them
get
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
places
like
jewel
mountain,,
the
people's
crossing
for
potentially
white
rocks.,
some
of
those
areas?
We
know
that
they've
had
interest
in,
and
then
the
second
day
will
be
geared
toward.
J
Osbt:
uh,
they,
the
trouble
representatives,
want
to
continue
to
talking
about
a
celebration
at
the
people's
crossing
with
the
renaming,
and
what
that
celebration
may
look
like..
They
have
some
ideas
that
they've
already
given
us.
and
so
we're
going
to
be
exploring
that
some
more
so
overall.
That
looks
like
the
agenda
for
march.
F
Osbt:
again,
given
what
that
happened,
this
week,
the
past
weekend
in
an
indigenous
day.
uh,.
What
interactions
are
we
currently
having,
or
into
speed
with
the
community
community
groups?.
J
F
J
Osbt:,
it's
it
probably
will
be
daylighted
through
the
the
approval.
Process.
um!
is
what
it
would
be.
because,
uh,.
J
J
Osbt:
um,,
it
would
be
a
complicated
process
for
even
one
tribe
to
suggest
a
change
at
this
point
or
the
city
did,,
and
then
everybody
to
go
back
to
have
to
resign.
and
then,.
If
one
group
gets
tied
up
and
wants
to
change,
and
signatures
have
to
be
on
down
and
re-signed
again.,
I
would.
this
is
going
to
be.
My
first
go
around
working
with
fifteen
different
sovereign
nations,
and.
J
J
Osbt:
from
a
community
perspective.,
it
might
be
more
of
an
informed
process
uh,
once
it
gets
to
council's
hand.,
but
that's
not
my
call,,
but
that
would
just
be
how,
how?.
I
would
see
a
plane
out
with
getting
all
fifteen
nations
on
board,,
plus
the
city
uh,,
with
four
years
of
negotiation
already
behind
us.,
so.
J
J
Osbt:,
the
tribal
nations
have
given
us
their
complete
input.,
so.
F
Osbt:
you
know,.
It
just
struck
me
that
over
the
past
weekend
there
is
certainly
a
a
lot
of
interest
in
in,,
especially
for
chambers
or
the
you
know,
for
chambers,
not
pretty
open.
yeah,.
Four
chambers
is
different
than
the
project
I'm:
talking
about.
yeah.
yeah.,
four
chambers..
We
all
have
a
public
community
engagement.
J
F
B
B
Osbt:
uh,
we're
saying,,
you
know,.
If
we
were
just
up
to
the
on
cheyenne,
we
could
move
a
lot,
faster,
and
and
I,
from
having
sat
in
on
two
or
three
of
these
consultations,.
I
understand
the
complexities
of
having
all
dozen
or
so
tribes
represented.
B
J
Osbt:
presence
in
this
area
over
time,
and
that
they
do
have
an
interest,
and
in
in
this
area,,
and
have
consistently
showing
up
and
participated
in
our
consultation,
process.
J
Osbt:
uh,,
when
it
comes
to
other
specific
projects
like
for
chambers,,
we're
only
in
that
case
we're
only
dealing
with
three
travel
nations
out
of
our
the
fifteen.
We
would
hear
from,
and
that
is
so..
That's
an
intentional
decision
for
for
chambers.
yes,.
We
are
dealing
with
the
tribes
that
were
directly
impacted
from
the
massacre,,
which
brings
it
down
to
three
tribes.
and
those
are
the
three
tribes
for.