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A
B
It
should
say
which
is
inappropriately
late
in
the
process.
So
the
word
is
was
stricken
but
I'm
sure
she
wants
it.
Never
so
do
we
have
any
other
changes
or
comments.
B
B
D
Hi,
my
name
is
Pat
Gillick
and
I
live
at
3390,
Longwood
Avenue
in
Boulder
and
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
Boulder
County
Audubon
Society
I'm,
commenting
on
the
planning
and
engagement
process
for
the
OSM
team
master
plan
that
will
be
presented
to
the
City
Council
next
week
for
a
public
hearing.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
osm
piece
should
be
commended
for
following
the
recently
developed
nine
steps
to
good
engagement
and
for
graphically
connecting
the
dots
on
how
that
process
is
how
oh
s,
MP
is
going
to
follow
that
process.
D
Two
of
the
steps,
however,
I,
think
lacked
some
clarity
and
that's
what
I'm
commenting
on
tonight
and
and
I
think
the
clarity
is
around
osm
PS
and
the
trustees
responsibility
to
consider
both
use
and
protection
of
boulders
most
important
natural
resource.
Our
open
space
lands
specifically
I'm,
referring
to
steps
2,
&
4,
step
2
determine
who
is
affected
in
any
proposed
action
on
OS
MP
lands,
a
determination
of
who
is
affected
must
include
the
environment
and
specifically
plants
animals,
habitats
and
ecosystem
in
Tegrity
step.
2
is
also
in
that
vein.
D
It's
a
good
place
to
begin
the
foundation
of
public
education
as
to
the
environmental
gains
and
losses
reality
in
any
human
use
of
OS
MP
lands,
regardless
of
the
type
of
activity
the
public
deserves
to
know
upfront.
What
these
gains
and
losses
would
likely
be
step.
4
share
a
foundation
of
information
and
inquiry
for
OS
MP.
This
step
needs
to
continue
the
gains
and
losses
in
our
mental
gains
and
losses
concept
introduced
in
step.
Two
in
more
detail
as
related
to
the
specific
proposed
action.
D
Os
MP
has
the
experts
to
do
this,
but
as
seen
in
the
North
TS
a
public
process,
the
gains
and
losses
were
not
brought
forward
until
late
in
the
process
and
after
the
public
had
already
been
queried
about
their
desires
for
use
and
I
can
see.
There's
a
lesson
learned
from
that
that
is
in
this
plan
and
I
think
that's
that's
good
I
think
we
just
need
a
little
more
articulation.
D
Os
MP
lands
have
been
bought
and
paid
for
by
citizens
of
Boulder
for
multiple
purposes,
and
environmental
gains
and
losses
that
are
a
part
of
a
new
or
changed
urban
human
uses
in
the
TSA
need
to
be
clearly
articulated
the
OS
BT
as
citizen
representatives,
which
is
what
you
are
as
well
as
trustees
need
to
use
this
planning
opportunity
to
require
this
clarity
and
4os
MP
to
use
their
resource
staff
to
provide
the
needed
detail
and
specifics
on
environmental
gains
and
losses,
so
the
public
can
actually
make
informed
choices.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
B
E
Kirk
Cunningham
9,
7,
7,
7th,
Street
I
looked
through
this.
The
blue
version
of
the
of
your
planning
document
at
this
point,
I
still
didn't
see
any
mention
of
the
use
of
the
scientific
survey
that
was
done
in
2016
of
residents,
attitudes
about
open
space
and
their
uses
and
how
people
would
like
to
use
them
perhaps
is
in
there
I
and
missed
it.
But
in
any
case
my
concern
about
this
is
that
the
planning
process,
as
I
see
it,
has
a
lot
of
the
typical
Charette
type
activities
plus
some
extent.
E
My
feeling
is
that
these
strategies
can
generate
some
useful
information
about
public
attitudes
and
they
certainly
satisfy
a
feeling
by
the
public
that
their
opinions
have
been
solicited,
but
I
think
the
people
that
show
up
also
tend
to
be
people
with
a
very
definite
opinion.
They
may
represent
groups,
or
particular
users.
E
E
I
think
of
aerion
closest
to
me
is
Chautauqua
meadow,
which,
for
a
long
time,
has
been
a
monoculture
of
pasture
grass
I've
noticed
recently
that
I've
seen
some
forbs
and
things
like
that
up
here,
which
I
think
have
been
planted,
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
In
any
case,
it
makes
for
a
more
interesting
experience
to
have
that
sort
of
environment
rather
than
a
degraded
environment.
Thanks
very
much
thanks.
F
Hi,
my
name
is
Jackie
Romania
I
live
at
2305,
Dartmouth,
Avenue
I.
Think
the
report
has
a
lot
of
wonderful
things
and
I
appreciate
all
the
effort
from
the
last
meeting
that
has
been
embedded
in
the
new
report.
My
focus
is
on
page
5
when
it
speaks
to
the
things
that
are
going
to
be
considered
and
the
items
that
are
not
going
to
be
considered.
F
I
want
and
I
think
these
meetings
are
going
to
be
just
such
an
excellent
educational
opportunity
that,
with
the
excellent
staff
I
think
if
they
can
come
in
and
do
educate
during
these
meetings
and
frame
the
conversations
from
the
beginning,
then
the
discussions
will
be
much
more
rewarding
and
come
and
be
able
to
bring
everybody
to
conclusions
more
quickly.
So
those
are
my
comments
and
I'm
speaking
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Colorado
Native
Plant
Society,
but
I'm
speaking
for
myself.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
G
Evening
hunter
price,
1719,
Mariposa
Avenue
here
in
Boulder
I,
would
like
to
offer
my
opinion
on
agenda
item
3
de
matters
from
the
department.
The
immediate
conversion
of
the
cobalt
trial
to
multi-use
I
believe
the
Eagle
trail
downhill
is
indeed
Boulder.
Valley
Ranch
is
indeed
a
safety
hazard
that
should
be
addressed
and
I
appreciate
the
comprehensive
analysis
that
was
provided
by
staff
for
today's
meeting
and
the
thoughts
that
went
into
it.
G
My
preferred
solution
would
be
a
combination
of
the
options
1
and
3
number
one
is
to
improve
signs
on
the
Eagle
trail
connector
at
the
top,
in
particular
at
the
top
of
the
downhill,
so
that
the
assignees
that
stands
out
that's
clear
and
concise,
indicating
the
dangers.
For
instance,
a
double
black
diamond,
is
sometimes
used
indicating
experts
only.
G
What
could
also
be
done
is
installing
staggered
sections
of
split
rail
fence
that
people
have
to
negotiate,
slows
them
down
and
directs
them
possibly
towards
that
signage,
so
that
you
know
signage
is
often
missed.
The
option
3
is
to
open
the
Cobalt
rails
to
multi-use
immediately
and
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
the
hat
four
and
point
out
that
that
would
be
for
beginners.
You
know
if
the
Eagle
downhill
would
be
experts
that
cobalt
could
be
marked
for
beginners,
like
with
a
green
sir
or
blue
square
and
yeah
again.
G
Here
we
would
need
signage,
clear
signage,
so
that
people
are
not
pedestrians.
Equestrians
hikers
are
not
surprised
to
suddenly
find
bikes.
They
are
maybe
sign
sandwich
boards
at
the
beginning
and
yes
in
which,
what's
right
in
the
in
the
middle
of
the
trail
that
they
can't
be
missed
and
also
indicate
both
at
the
Eagle
trail
downhill
and
at
the
Koval
trail.
You
know
that
those
are
now
alternatives.
G
H
My
understanding
is
that
the
county,
a
boulder,
is
sort
of
in
opposition
with
what
may
be
the
open
space
board
thinks,
but
they
declared
that
there
wasn't
a
mapping
error
for
this
land
and
I'd
like
you
to
think
just
for
a
second
of.
What's
happened
up
in
that
area.
We
had
a
new
subdivision,
the
trailhead
subdivision
that
came
in
and
in
that
process
they
donated
some
of
their
land
to
open
space,
which
was
a
trail.
H
So
people
probably
had
those
maps
open
and
they
were
looking
at
this
open
space
other
and
that
that
trail
goes
right
into
that
open
space.
Other
designation,
so
I
have
a
hard
time
being
convinced
that
this
was
a
mapping
error,
since
this
was
sort
of
out
in
the
public's
eyes
and
to
the
board's
eyes
at
that
time.
Also,
the
Memorial
Hospital,
if
that
had
been
an
error,
think
about
it
view
on
that
land
and
all
the
sudden.
H
H
I'm,
not
a
financial
expert
on
open
spaces
budget,
but
I
do
believe
that
your
open
space
budget
is
going
to
be
cut
back
in
the
next
few
years
and
I
hope
that
that
isn't
something
that's
influencing
your
decisions
to
acquire
this
land
I
think
it
would
be
a
valuable
addition
to
the
open
space
area.
H
It
sort
of
sits
right
there
and
sort
of
a
sensitive
area
and
right
now
the
developer
wants
to
build
some
structures
on
there
and
I
grew
up
as
a
kid
playing
in
on
that
land,
which
we
thought
was
the
Memorial
Hospital
I'll.
Probably
it
was
at
the
time,
then
open
space
either
could
acquire
it,
but
I
think
it's
a
good,
sensitive
area
which
needs
some
buffering,
but
you
know,
or
it
could
be
protected.
What
do
you
aim
just
want
to
encourage
you
to
allow
public
access
to
a
hearing
concerning
the
open
space?
Other.
Thank
you.
I
One
is
that,
as
you
recall
it,
the
last
meeting
historic
Boulder
representative
addressed
the
board.
Since
then,
several
staff
have
met
with
several
members
of
the
historic
Boulder
award
and
was
a
really
good
conversation
and
it
were
kicking
off
an
exploration
of
how
we
could
partner
with
historic,
Boulder,
they're
gonna
designate
a
group
and
we're
gonna
designate
a
group
and
each
have
a
point
person
and
and
move
on
from
there.
So
a
really
good
conversation
and
we
think
we're
on
a
good
path.
So
just
an
update
there
I'm
not
sure
at
what
point.
I
So
we're
working
on
that
what
it
looks,
how
it's
exactly
structured,
where
we're
working
on
but
and
again
we're
targeting
the
February
board
meeting
and
heads
up
around
that.
Well,
it
will
have
an
A
and
fact
on
the
agenda
management
for
the
February
large
meetings.
Perhaps
so
some
things
could
would
probably
need
to
move
around
so
just
awareness
there.
K
L
Conclusion
that
the
Oso
designation
was
an
error
based
on
the
alignment
with
previous
incorrect
map
location
of
the
ditch
as
plausible.
However,
stony
County
staff
has
now
found
evidence
that
the
incorrect,
ditch
mapping
is
the
definitive
cause
of
Oso
land
use
map
designation.
Therefore,
county
staff
does
not
conclude
that
the
Oso
land
use
designation
is
clearly
a
mapping,
error
and
I.
Think
the
word
clearly
was
the
word
that
that
they
were
reacting
to
so
yeah.
C
L
And
and
and
they're
actually,
the
ones
who,
when
they're
coming
up
with
some
determination,
came
up
with
this
1955
map
that
we
were
unaware
of
that.
We
thought
the
mapping
error
was
of
this
overlaid
ditch.
It
was
a
little
bit
later
than
that
and
they
found
it
even
an
earlier
version
that
shows
the
Silverlight
ditch
mapped
further
east,
so
they
provided
some
more
evidence
to
that
effect.
But
I
think
you're,
right,
yeah.
M
You
Mach
Davison
community
connections
and
partnerships
manager,
I'm
here
tonight
to
give
an
update
on
the
open
space
and
mountain
parks
master
plan
process
a
couple
of
clarifiers
at
the
beginning.
We
did
have
today
the
process
committee
meeting
with
the
two
council
members
and
the
two
board
members,
and
hence
you
have
an
updated
version
from
what
was
in
the
packet
for
the
project
management
plan
and
the
engagement
page
thanks
to
lea
and
Darrin
and
a
few
of
her
folks
for
making
those
updates
and
time
for
tonight's
meeting.
M
The
reason
it
was
done
so
quick
was,
we
did
have
a
4:00
p.m.
deadline
today
to
get
the
package
to
council
the
updated
package
and
I'll
explain
the
ref.
The
changes
that
were
recommended
Molly
was
also
at
that
meeting
as
a
member
of
the
public
to
make
comments,
and
that
was
referenced
when
we
made
the
changes
ultimately
in
the
project
management
plan.
If
you
go
to
page
2,
you'll
see
basically
the
second
paragraph
from
the
bottom.
We
originally
had
wording
in
that
talked
about
a
trade-off
and
compromise.
M
Molly
said
it
preferred
the
idea
of
not
using
the
word
trade-off.
The
phrase
if
we
can
help
ourselves
and
the
discussion
continued
about
whether
using
balanced
integration
compromise
trade-off
in
the
end
the
council
member
recommended
we
take
out
that
sentence,
which
is
why
now
it
ends
on
management
priorities.
In
reality,
the
the
idea,
though,
is
obviously
there's
still
intent
to
look
at
balanced
integration
compromise
as
we
go
through
the
process
and
I
think
we
all
everyone
in
the
room
recognized
that
was
the
absolute
intent.
M
In
there
we
talked
about
values,
hopes
and
fears.
There
was
a
recommendation
to
change
fears
to
concerns
so
that
was
agreed
and
that
went
into
the
package.
So
as
it
stands,
the
project
management
plan
is
going
to
cancel.
We've
tried
to
reflect
your
wording
based
upon
the
last
board
meeting
and
then
with
the
process
committee
update
today
in
regards
the
next
document,
the
planning
or
engagement
for
the
master
plan.
M
It's
a
brief
two
page
outlining
the
first
window
of
engagement
and
you'll,
see
at
the
very
top.
That's
highlighted
in
green
you'll
notice
that
there's
five
windows
in
total
the
first
window.
It's
due
to
open
in
January
22nd
and
that's
when
we'll
begin,
the
public
process
it'll
grow
with
the
system
overview
report,
release
and
more
intensive
public
engagement
in
that
window
closes
on
March
30th
a
couple
of
changes
under
their
goals
for
engagement.
M
Today,
the
next
paragraph
down
where
there
was
a
good
point
made
that
listening
isn't
a
goal,
so
we
at
first
thing
the
broad
goal.
It's
now
talks
about
listening
well
to
broaden
our
connection
with
the
community
and
then
in
terms
of
sharing
information.
We
also
talked
about
communicating
clearly
to
make
those
total
sort
of
two
broad
goals
and
then,
with
the
sub
goals,
underneath
also
and
item
number
four,
we
changed
it
to
actually
measuring
the
success,
and
that
was
the
thing
brought
up
of.
How
do
we
get
through
this
first
window?
M
Look
back
and
see
what
we
did
successfully
or
what
lessons
learned
or
is
anything
we
missed
where
we
actually
need
to
then
extend
the
window
for
any
reason,
if
we've
missed
something,
that's
major
and
how
we'll
listen,
I
think
there
was
consensus
about
how
we
listen.
The
one
request
was
under
the
spring
equinox
event,
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
mid-march
and
basically,
rather
than
having
the
morning
yoga,
we
said
it
would
be
bettered
for
upset
a
more
traditional
community.
Listening
post,
open
house
venue,
along
with
the
sort
of
micro
engagement
efforts.
M
So
that's
a
change
to
have
to
basically
mix
and
match
both
styles
and
engagement
and
then
finally,
the
back
page.
Who
do
we
want
to
reach?
There
was
discussion
about
what
isn't
underrepresented
communities
so
you'll
see
at
the
bottom.
There
we
removed
a
couple
of
bullets
and
really
said
I
think
that
important
points
is
including,
but
not
limited,
to
do
and
give
examples
of
how
we
want
to
sort
of
focus
on
underserved
communities
while
having
a
broad
approach
there.
M
The
major
updates
from
the
meeting
today
in
terms
of
next
steps
kind
of
touched
upon
it,
but
we'll
go
to
Council
in
January
16th,
hopefully
get
approval,
if
not
we'll
be
coming
back
with
a
whole
new
process
fingers
crossed
from
there.
The
windows
opens
January
22nd,
as
the
system
overview
gets
released,
that
will
grow,
I
have
February
22nd
and
then
we'll
hopefully
have
that
open
house.
We
discussed
a
day
about
two
weeks
after
that
system
overview
gets
released.
M
C
Mark
another
change
that
was
made
I
think
just
worth
of
calling
attention
to,
and
this
is
on
the
backside
that
first
window
of
engagement
and
it's
how
will
input
be
used
and
the
final
bullet
has
been
changed.
You
know
I
think
a
significant
way.
There
had
been
questions
about
well.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
describe
it
and.
M
Thank
you
for
that
remainder,
kiss
keeping
me
on
track
here,
yeah.
It's
about
the
fact
that
I
think
there
was
an
impression
that
there
wasn't
comments
on
the
system
overview
when
could
be
allowed
to
laughter
the
master
plan
process,
and
that
was
never
the
intent.
Yes,
comments
on
the
system
overview
where
there's
been
errors
made,
will
correct
recommendations.
M
Are
things
about
things
missing
in
the
system
will
be
more
like
an
addendum
to
include
on
the
system
overview
that
then
we
can
approach
and
attach
and
work
on
as
we
go
through
the
master
planning
process,
an
example
may
be.
We
recognize,
we've
done
less
inventory,
work
and
assessment
on
the
scenic
aspect
of
the
Charter
purpose
and
we're
trying
to
catch
up
on
that,
and
that
would
be
an
example
of
we
can't.
M
K
Wanted
to
just
add,
especially
for
the
public's
benefit,
that
the
timing
of
the
process
committee
meetings
got
moved.
We
had
been
meeting
basically
on
noon
of
the
day
of
the
board
meeting,
which
is
the
second
Wednesday
and
switched
that
to
the
fourth
Wednesday
of
the
month,
also
at
noon,
and
we
decided
that
rather
than
skip
a
month
and
go
six
weeks,
we'll
meet
in
two
weeks
and.
M
B
I
N
Good,
even
Burton,
stoner
Ranger,
Services
supervisor
I'm
gonna
delve
into
the
Ranger
operations
tonight
very
quickly
time
for
questions
after
that.
So
tonight
we're
gonna
talk
about
the
breakout.
The
Ranger
manual
talked
a
bit
about
community
rangering
role
through
some
Ranger
patrol
issues.
Talk
about
fire
prevention,
immerse,
our
response,
encampments
wildlife
management,
talk
about
our
role
as
naturalist
and
then
Ariel
come
up
and
break
out
our
Junior
Ranger
Naturalist
program
for
us
really
we
have
a
Rangers
have
guiding
documents.
You
know
all
of
the
management
plans
provide
the
content
for
natural
resource
protection,
visitor
access.
N
So
that's
the
world
that
we
work
out
of
and
our
Ranger
manual
then
really
provides
all
of
the
procedures
and
policies
for
us
so
that
we
can
accomplish
our
mission,
which
is
up
there.
Chapters
four
through
seven,
really
cover
the
main
bulk
of
our
services
that
we
provide
to
the
community
through
our
community
relations
as
naturalist,
our
law
enforcement
services,
medical
like
wildfire,
so.
N
Really
community
rangering
is
our
defining
principle
really
where
rangers
work
proactively
and
cooperatively
with
citizens
toi
both
identify
and
then
resolve
issues
that
come
up.
So
you
can
see
on
our
2018
rangering
map
community
map,
12
districts
broken
out,
but
again
I
just
want
a
reminder
that
the
areas
that
are
not
covered
in
the
purple
lines
are
still
covered
under
general
patrol
outside
of
that
and
then
additionally,
we'll
use
a
targeted
patrol
based
on
visitor
concerns
in
a
certain
area.
N
So
we'll
put
our
efforts
in
a
certain
area
for
a
smaller
amount
of
time,
so
those
are
general
principles
around
that
six
successes
from
2017.
We
had
a
lot
of
great
neighborhood
outreach
and
education
programs.
Specifically
one
would
be
the
fire
program
and
Shannon
Ridge
area
and
our
our
successful
describe
fire
there.
This
year,
some
social
trail
restoration
efforts
and
then
some
visitor
access
channeling
on
flagstaff
particular
just
helping
people
understand
where
they
really
how
to
get
where
they
should
be
doing.
N
Some
did
some
great
trail
repair
down
a
Marshall
Mesa
with
BMA,
and
it's
put
a
lot
of
work
into
improving
the
parking
safety
along
the
Alvaro
Springs
Drive
from
the
parking
outside
of
the
trail
heads
there.
So
those
are
some
notable
ones.
You
know
we
think
about
patrol
patrol
our
tempo
changes
dramatically
through
the
day,
but
our
commitment
to
really
high
levels
of
customer
service
does
not
so
an
example
that
is,
you
know,
responding
to
injuries.
N
You
know
we
strive
to
be
first
to
the
patient
to
provide
care
around
that.
That's
Jeff
in
the
middle
of
that
pile
up
and
out
some
ongoing
issues
involve
graffiti
and
whether
it's
a
natural
surface
or
man-made
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
clean
that
stuff
up
involves
a
lot
of
staff
and
some
of
it's
actually
quite
attractive,
but
we
have
the
great
best
locations
right,
so
spent
a
lot
of
time,
cleaning
another
patrol
mantra,
and
that
is
that
everything
every
call
eventually
ends
up
on
open
space
mountain
parks.
N
So
you
better
just
start
for
the
call
whatever
it
is,
so,
whether
it's
a
vehicle
off
the
road
through
a
fence,
we're
gonna,
be
there
assisting
and
providing
mutual
aid
to
all
the
rest
of
the
county
emergency
responders.
But
for
us,
car
through
a
fence
means
the
opportunity
for
cattle
to
get
on
the
highway,
and
so,
as
part
of
our
agricultural
operations,
support
we'll
be
fixing
fences.
N
So
we
respond
to
a
great
number
of
calls
throughout
the
city
and
county
on
our
property,
and
some
of
that-
and
it
ranges
it
just
again
from
the
very
innocuous-
calls
to
some
very
significant
law
enforcement
issues
so
to
assault
domestic
violence,
you
name
it
ranges,
are
trained
and
will
respond
to
those
things.
So
that's
a
piece
of
the
equation
for
us:
it
doesn't
get
captured
all
the
time
around
our
fire
prevention
efforts.
We've
got
ongoing
efforts
to
document
where
campfire
rings
are,
and
that's
that
map,
really
all
you
need
to
know
is
the
darker.
N
The
color
of
the
oranges
shred
on
that
map
denotes
a
higher
density
of
fire
rings,
so
kind
of
two
demographics,
there's
related
to
encampments
campfires
around
the
mouth
of
the
canyons
out
around
the
city
perimeter
and
then
the
other
demographic
is
the
Flagstaff
area.
Well,
you
have
a
lot
of
youth
going
to
start
fires
on
for
just
having
fun
to
them
for
the
night,
so
those
so
ongoing
efforts
to
continue
to
map
that.
So
we
can
target
our
patrol
around
those
those
areas.
N
You'll
see
the
picture
on
the
left
is
from
a
UAV
drone
testing,
thermal
imaging
and
so
you'll
actually
see
that
that
little
spot
in
the
middle
is
a
human
person,
so
that
and
then
there's
to
the
right
of
that
is
a
red
dot.
So
that
was
the
campfire,
so
it
it
does
work.
But
it's
it's
not
very
practical
for
the
mountain
terrain
and
type
of
terrain
that
we're
trying
to
cover,
but
we
did
use
some
small
manned
aircraft,
that's
very
effective
at
covering
long
distances,
looking
for
campfires,
so
to
be
determined.
N
We're
gonna
keep
going
with
that
to
help
us
in
our
patrols
around
those
areas.
Efforts
because
we
are
certainly
concerned
about
wildland
fire
and
so
again
the
training
that
we
have
enables
us
to
respond.
A
lot
of
different
levels
to
fire
so
below
on
the
bottom
left
is
the
sunshine
fire.
That's
the
that's.
Our
crew,
headed
in
to
the
fire,
was
burning
all
the
flanked.
At
that
point,
the
picture
on
the
bottom
right
is
up
by
the
third
Flatiron
and
those
are
both
off
of
a
human-caused.
G
N
N
Wildlife
management
is
a
great
aspect
of
the
job.
The
picture
on
the
left
is
the
backside
of
the
third
Flatiron.
So,
as
rangers
will
work
with
the
volunteers
and
monitor
raptor
closures
and
the
boundaries
there
and
work
with
work
with
everyone
that
that
loves
to
be
out
there,
understanding
what
the
birds
are
doing
and
providing
that
information
on
the
trails
to
people
as
they
come
come
in
those
areas.
N
The
bottom
right
picture
is
Malory
cave
gate
and
then
Rangers
had
a
large
role
in
hoping
to
build
that
to
protect
Townsend's,
bigger
bats
habitat
and
one
of
my
favorite
projects
for
sure
upper
right.
We
worked
constantly
with
City
Animal
Control
Collar
it'll
put
some
wildlife
on
wildlife
issues
inside
city
limits
related
to
bear
particular
mostly
and
on
the
left.
You'll
see
the
mountain
lion
with
a
kill
and
when
they,
when
that
happens
near
trails,
then
we
certainly
have
safety
issues
and
to
deal
with.
O
Hi,
my
name
is
Arian
hampel,
linear,
Park,
Rangers
great
to
meet
y'all.
Today,
I
get
to
talked
about
the
Junior
Ranger
naturalist
pilot
program,
which
was
a
program
that
we
piloted
this
last
summer.
It
was
a
three
week
program
and
it
was
really
designed
for
high
school-age
youth,
and
it
was
after
my
attendance
at
the
world
Ranger
Congress,
where
I
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
Rangers
from
all
over
the
world
and
one
of
the
major
areas
that
we
decided.
O
We
all
needed
to
really
engage
with
was
our
local
youth,
and
so
that's
really
how
this
program
got
started.
The
goals
this
program
was
to
allow
participants
to
learn
about
the
Ranger
career,
to
provide
useful
youth
with
a
natural
resource
career
opportunity
and
to
help
integrate
long-term
this
pilot
program
into
the
existing
Junior
Ranger
program.
O
This
program
also
gave
us
the
opportunity
to
continue
a
partnership
with
Boulder,
County,
Rangers
and
other
dedicated
community
members
who
are
interested
in
youth
engagement,
so
the
some
of
the
accomplishments
of
this
program,
where
we
got
to
do
feet,
CPR
and
First
Aid
and
then
followed
up
the
next
day.
With
a
with
a
day
of
mock
search-and-rescue
training,
we
did
a
wildland
fire,
ecology
and
training
with
the
Junior
Ranger
naturalist.
O
O
We
also
had
the
Junior
Ranger
naturalist,
actually
design
and
then
lead
their
own
kids
fishing
program
with
the
public,
so
as
kids
under
the
age
of
12
and
their
parents,
think
guardians
came
out
and
they
all
got
to
go
fishing
together
and
another
part
of
this
was
wildlife
researcher,
and
so
we
were
able
to
go
out
and
do
some
bird
banding.
We
learned
about
bat
ecology.
We
learned
about
plant,
ecology
and.
O
N
So
that's
next
for
this
year
we're
gonna
expand
the
Junior
Ranger
naturals
program.
We
have
hired
three
full-time
Rangers
this
year,
which
leaves
just
one
one
vacancy
left
to
be
hired
this
later
this
year
and
I
am
really
excited
about
that
and
want
to
thank
the
board
and
City
Council
for
your
support
in
creating
those
positions.
In
addition
of
the
increased
visitor
use
that
we
have
and
the
month
all
that
we'll
be
able
to
accomplish.
N
N
We're
gonna,
continue
different
techniques
for
campfire
detection,
in
cooperation
with
the
city,
while
in
group
we're
gonna
begin
using
a
shared
records
database
with
the
police
department,
city
courts,
it's
going
to
be
increasing
a
lot
of
efficient
season
and
do
a
better
job
for
us
keeping
track
of
our
of
our
record-keeping.
And
then,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
diverse
job
and
within
that
there
are
a
lot
of
career
development
tracks
available,
and
so
that's
something
that
we're
gonna
just
be
working
on.
N
Internally:
give
up
greater
opportunities
to
Rangers
to
become
bit
more
specialized,
and
particularly
one
area
to
provide
greater
expertise,
but
also
complement
the
work
group
as
a
whole.
So
and
I
would
be
remiss
in
not
offering
all
of
you
an
opportunity
come
for
ride-along
if
you
so
desire
and
and
see
this
rich
biologic
treasure
that
we
have
through
our
eyes.
So
thanks
for
your
time
today,
I
think
any
questions.
N
P
C
N
Know
it
comes
down
to
the
amount
of
visitor
use,
that's
really
it
and
right
what
a
great
problem
to
have
and
and
we
look
at
it
that
way,
you
know,
and
it's
I've
always
I've
always
provided
when
I
have
a
conversation
with
somebody
and
I'm
trying
to
correct
a
behavior
as
a
ranger.
That's
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
is
and
how
that
plays
out.
It's
providing
that
context.
Like
hey
here's,
your
action,
but
you
don't
see
this
the
rest
of
it.
N
B
Are
you
doing
an
amazing
job?
He's
just
got
to
be
a
really
challenging
job
to
do
what
you
do,
but
you
know
I
lived
on
3rd
and
Arapaho
during
the
dumb
fire
and
I.
This
was
well
before
I
was
on
the
board,
but
I
call
the
under
attempt
when
it
came
down
and
I.
Remember
right
after
that,
I
thought
you
know,
I
would
hate
to
be
the
person
going
up
that
hill
yeah
try
to
flush
out
all
that,
but
I
think
the
encampments
are
definitely
big
issue
in
some
areas
and
that's
good
think.
Q
Q
So
I
want
to
give
you
kind
of
a
quick
update
on
phase
one
which
is
almost
completed.
The
prairie
dog
working
group
members
met
starting
last
January
through
May
and
came
up
with
a
number
of
recommendations
that
they
had
flagged
for
build-out
by
staff,
and
the
full
report
of
that
is
on
the
prairie
dog
working
group
web
page,
which
is
that
link
there.
All
of
you
may
have
seen
that
I
think
you
also
saw
the
report
from
that
phase.
Q
So
we
commenced
in
December.
We
had
our
first
meeting
just
before
the
holidays
and
we'll
have
another
here
in
another
two
weeks
or
something
we're
meeting
once
a
month.
Therefore,
our
meetings
in
the
evening-
and
that
is
set
to
be
from
decent
from
this
past
December
through
upcoming
May
and
because
of
the
scope
of
work,
it's
likely
that
they'll
be
work
outside
of
those
full
team
meetings
by
smaller
groups
of
those
participants
and
additional
technical
support.
Q
So
things
like
our
plant,
ecologist,
Lin,
riedle
or
the
IPM
coordinator
or
Ella
Abernathy,
and
we
would
anticipate
probably
having
a
study
session
with
City
Council
once
our
work
is
wrapped
up
with
Phase
two
after
we've
sent
those
recommendations
to
the
city
manager
and
in
2018
carries
estimated
about
350
hours
of
staff
time
and
then
I
wanted
to
quickly
shift
gears
and
just
give
you
the
kind
of
now
that
the
relocation
season
is
over
final
picture.
If
you'll
remember,
we
did
that
back
in
was
it
may
be
November
without
any
slides.
Q
Q
Q
Q
One
animal
has
been
observed
at
the
site.
Since
then,
it
was
a
very
extensive
trapping
effort
with
many
days
of
flushing
after
that,
so
we're
pretty
confident
that
it
was
one
that
just
simply
was
not
going
to
be
catched
we're
going
to
be
caught
so
we're
now
looking
at
what
the
plans
are
for
the
next
steps
that
likely
will
include
lethal
control
of
that
individual
and
Val
Matheson.
That
urban
wildlife
coordinator
will
be
taking
the
lead
on
that
process
and
to
accommodate
those
42
prairie
dogs.
Q
C
Q
Certainly,
I
think
the
number
of
acres
of
prairie
dog
counties
that
are
identified
for
removal
on
open
space
is
very
large.
I.
Think
I
haven't
seen
the
2017
final
numbers
yet,
but
it's
certainly
upwards
of
700
acres
on
open
space
and
certainly
relocations,
are
not
a
one-to-one
acreage.
Your
relocate
at
much
lower
densities
than
they
typically
are
on
the
sending
site.
So
it's
a
pretty
large
need
our
capacity
to
obtain
permits
and
support.
Relocations
is
somewhat
limited
each
year
and
the
available
receiving
sites
are
somewhat
limited.
Q
We
have
were
actually
other
than
in
the
southern
grasslands
at
the
highest
occupation
that
we've
ever
had
since
we
started
mapping
in
1996,
and
so
that
not
only
creates
a
lot
of
need
for
products
to
be
removed
from
things
like
irrigated
agricultural
lands,
but
also
means
that
a
lot
of
those
potential
receiving
sites
are
fully
occupied
as
well.
So
it's
certainly
a
limited
supply
of
receiving
sites
and
the
ability
to
receipt
to
move
them
so
to
some
degree.
Q
Yes,
it
does
make
it
more
difficult
to
make
progress
on
those
open
space
goals,
but
I
think
as
a
city
there's
been
a
strong
commitment
to
minimize
lethal
control
and
in
most
cases
on
open
space,
we're
not
looking
at
using
lethal
control
on
those
properties.
So
I
think
kind
of
the
distinction
is
on
those
private
development
properties.
Often
their
next
step
is
lethal
control.
Q
If
there's
no
relocation,
but
that's
the
me,
the
prairie
dog
working
group
is
definitely
going
to
be
talking
about
kind
of
that
trade-off
and
those
impacts
to
public
land
and
whether
there's
anything
that
they
might
recommend
that
we
do
to
either
offset
the
cost
of
that
or
you
know
how
we
would
deal
with
that
situation.
Right.
P
Q
I,
think
those
types
of
goals
are
not,
as
specifically
spelled
out
for
other
city
lands
with
prairie
dogs,
Parks
and
Rec
certainly
has
some
guidance
on
their
prairie
dog
management,
but
I
don't
think
it's
as
specific.
As
in
the
grassland
plan,
there
are
a
couple
of
other
very
small
city
parcels
utilities
and
such
with
prairie
dogs,
but
they
they
don't
have
specific
goals.
Q
The
urban
wildlife
management
plan
does
set
goals,
as
far
as
which
properties
are
designated
for
removal
or
for
long
term
protection,
but
I,
don't
believe
that
it
sets
out
overall
population
goals
or
anything
at
that
level,
a
lot
of
the
colonies
in
the
urban
wildlife
management
plan
or
in
private
land.
So
it
probably
wouldn't
be
appropriate
just
that
those
so
I
think
we've
got
some
room
to
define
those
citywide
whether
or
not
we
stick
with
exactly
what's
in
our
grass
line
plan.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
I
just
wanted
to
know
when
we
finished
with
our
comments
and
the
meetings,
what
kind
of
product
will
you
have
out
of
that?
Well,
we
give
some
kind
of
deliverable
to
the
citizens
and
then
kind
of
segue.
You
know
of
that
question
also.
Will
it
be
in
time
for
us
to
use
it
for
the
master
and
process
to
enlighten
us
on
where
we
might
go
well.
B
Q
We
do
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
animals
at
the
release
site.
One
thing
that
we
don't
typically
do
with
our
relocations
and
actually
almost
nobody
does
is
specific
survivorship
counts,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that,
in
order
to
get
true
counts
of
that,
you
would
have
to
have
some
way
to
know
that
they
were
in
the
area.
Q
So
absence
of
a
prairie
dog
might
mean
that
it
is
dead
or
got
eaten,
or
it
might
mean
that
it
moved
over
the
hill
to
the
active
colony
up
over
the
hill,
so
without
marking,
and
then
recapturing
individuals
to
see
exactly
which
ones
were
relocated.
We
have
marked
in
individuals
on
all
of
these
real
locations,
but
that's
just
furred
eyes
so
as
soon
as
they
go
through
a
molt
after
a
couple
of
months,
those
those
marks
are
gone.
So
we
don't
know
for
sure.
Q
We
can
say
that
the
area
where
we
put
the
armory
prairie
dogs
has
a
thriving
group
of
prairie
dogs,
so
I
would
say
a
good
number
of
them.
Are
there
and
doing
quite
well,
but
we
don't
have
specific
numbers
and
I
would
say
that
the
surrounding
prairie
dog
occupant
occupied
areas
have
seen
pretty
substantial
growth.
So
I
suspect
that
some
of
them
also
want
to
join
the
larger
areas
of
active
prairie
dogs
that
are
actually
within
the
same
colony,
but
in
different
portion
of
the
colony.
R
Good
evening,
as
you
may
recall,
last
month,
you
asked
that
we
bring
this
topic
back
to
the
board
this
month,
so
here
I
am
with
this.
Basically
the
topic
being
the
fact
that
the
steep
part
of
Eagle
Trail
has
caused
some
injuries,
a
significant
number
of
injuries.
Apparently,
although
I
will
say
that
not
for
many
of
those
get
reported
to
us,
so
in
fact,
in
the
last
16
years
or
so,
we
have
one
report
from
out
there
that
doesn't
negate
the
fact
that
those
injuries
are
happening
is
just
that
we
don't
get
that
report.
R
So
in
the
interim
timeframe,
I
did
go
to
your
trails
staff
and
ask
them
to
put
together
some
options
and
and
I'd
like
to
spend
a
little
time
going
through
those
options
for
you
tonight
and
would
like
to
remind
you
that
this
is
just
a
discussion
where
I'm
here
to
hear
your
thoughts.
Get
your
thoughts,
your
ideas,
some
different
options.
Perhaps
your
comments
that
sort
of
thing
on
the
options
that
we
were
bringing
forward.
R
The
dark,
colored
black
circles
create
a
new
connection,
we'll
be
looking
at
those
the
third
one
down
that
kind
of
the
pinkish
purple
filled
in
circles
that
reroute
of
an
existing
trail,
and
then
the
X
is
where
we
close
and
restore
current
alignment.
Those
are
the
ones
that
we'll
be
looking
at.
So
this
is
option
one
I
circled
the
trail.
This
is
the
that
Eagle
trail.
That
is
very
steep
and
we
did
go
out
and
take
a
look
at
it.
It
averages
about
twenty
percent.
R
There
are
some
35
percent
slopes
on
that,
so
it
is
very
steep
and
so
are
the.
What
we're
currently
doing
in
the
first
option
is
to
increasingly
step
up
our
signs
out
there,
perhaps
larger,
more
brighter.
That
sort
of
thing
this
the
pros
of
this
approach,
is
that
it
does
not
deviate
from
the
North
TSA
plan.
R
It
is
possible
that
this
will
work.
It
is
also
possible
that
it
won't,
but
we
can
do
this
without
having
to
adjust
our
annual
work
plan.
So
we
that's
another
positive
I
will
say
that
we're
prepared
to
go
as
far
as
kind
of
the
the
situation
that
Hans
talked
to
you
about
earlier,
where
we
put
in
some
gates
and
and
some
fence,
and
basically
it's
a
serpentine
entry,
so
bikes
have
to.
R
R
So
again,
this
would
have
no
deviation
of
the
from
from
the
plan.
Again,
it's
possible
that
the
signs
would
work
and,
while
we're
out
there
doing
starting
to
do
the
reroute
and
this
option
does
move
up
the
timeframe
for
that
reroute
by
a
year
at
least
maybe
two.
It
does
only
draw
address
that
small
section
of
the
trail.
R
We
could
put
signs
on
either
end
and
let
people
know
that
bikes
are
allowed.
That
trail,
we
feel
is
probably
physically
can
accommodate
bikes.
Although
I
will
say
that
it's
not
in
great
shape,
it
is
very
wide
in
some
places
it's
braided
in
others.
There
are
wet
spots.
At
least
there
was
last
when
I
was
out
there,
so
it's
not
great,
but
again
we
think
that
it
would
handle
the
bikes.
The
downside
is
that
it
then
takes
away
the
only
connection
from
bvr
up
to
the
mesa.
That
is
non
bike
at
the
present
time.
R
R
Option
for
basically
the
same
thing,
except
though
we're
proposing
to
bring
in
again
a
trail
design
consultant
one
again
that
has
some
experience
with
bike
features
to
help
us
determine
what
might
we
might
do
on
that
trail
to
mitigate
some
of
those
conflicts
that
we're
that
are
potential
out
there,
depending
on
what
that
person
recommends.
It
could
be
very
small
things
that
we
could
do
relatively
quickly
might
be
larger
things
that
we
might
have
to
have
to
wait
a
while
so
again,
this
offers.
R
This
would
offer
the
bike
riders
to
steep
a
less
steep
trail,
but
it
does
again
remove
them.
The
only
non
bike
trail
from
the
bottom
to
the
top.
It
deviates
from
the
plan.
So
we
would
require
that
engagement
process
again
and
any
improvements
on
this
one
would
be
lost
when
we
do
the
entire
area,
because,
as
you
can
see,
it's
designed
designated
to
be
rerouted
uphill
in
order
to
make
it
more
sustainable
and.
R
R
Trunk,
2,
bikes,
a
reroute
of
cobalt
and
open
it
to
bikes
and
then
a
construction
of
that
shale
trail
right
there
in
the
middle,
basically,
the
black
dots
that
would
become
a
neurologist
for
hikers
and
but
and
equestrians
the
idea
being
that
then
they
have
one
at
least
one
option
to
go
from
either
the
Mesa
down
or
more
vice
versa,
without
having
to
share
the
trail
with
bikes
again
for
number
five,
no
deviation
from
the
the
plan.
We
just
follow
it.
We
we
will
move
it.
R
So
in
summary,
you
we
have
five
different
options
there
and
again
we're
looking
for
and
any
other
options
that
you
can
send
our
way.
Some
discussion,
your
comments,
that
sort
of
thing
would
like
to
say
that
in
the
know,
so
I
did
list
some
of
the
trail
projects
in
some
of
the
ecological
projects
that
would
have
to
be
deferred.
If
we
take
on
these
some
of
these
options,
that
are
these
options
that
require
a
look
at
again
at
our
our
work
plans
and.
R
Again,
it's
option
three
and
four
I
want
to
reiterate
that
we
would,
we
feel,
like
we'd,
have
to
do
a
engagement
process
in
order
to
keep
people
from
being
surprised
out
there.
Anything
we
do
out
there
from
a
reroute
mitigation.
That
sort
of
thing
we
will
certainly
open
that
up
to
volunteers
and
one
of
the
primary
volunteers
that
we'll
be
working
with
is
the
boulder
mountain
bike
alliance.
They've
been
a
very
helpful
for
us
with
us
on
projects
this
year.
J
R
I
think
we're
gonna
be
have
to
do
all
of
that
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
I
know
I'm,
not
sure,
there's
for
the
questions.
I
think
we
can
get
to
the
equestrians,
but
I'm,
not
sure
who
we
would
target
for
what
kind
of
a
group
parking
for
the
hikers
dog
walkers.
That
sort
of
thing
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
bit
of
everything.
R
I
think
we
would
have
to
put
either
trail
guides
or
Rangers
out
there
I
think
we
would
call
some
meetings
and
see
if
we
got
anybody
to
show
up
with
those
meetings.
I'm
not
sure
yeah
and
obviously
we'd
have
to
put
up
some
some
signs.
Letting
people
know
that
this
is
coming
and
that
we
well
we've
got
them.
The
meetings
lined
up.
J
J
J
J
C
C
R
Do
not
have
a
concept
other
than
just
the
bubbles.
I
mean
we
Ryan
realigned.
There
know
your
trail
staff
did
go
out
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
have
indicated
that
in
order
to
make
that
trail,
less
steep
yeah,
it's
gonna
have
to
be
much
longer
and
we'll
have
to
put
in
some
switchbacks
that
sort
of
thing.
So
at
some
point
we
have
to
decide
how
how
much
incline
we
can.
We
can
stand
out
right
because
I
I'm
not
sure
we
can
make
it
twice
as
long
to
get
it
down
to
10%,
but.
R
S
Was
absolutely
one
of
the
things
that
was
recognized
just
the
steepness
of
that
grade
and
I
think
what's
been
the
concern
the
incan
ruin
a
churro,
the
rest
of
the
trail
with
that
grade,
and
it's
a
maintenance
issue
over
time.
So
as
to
recognize
we
wanted
to
do
something
didn't
get
down
to
the
details
of
what
we
could
do,
but
it
was
part
of
that
plan.
S
C
B
R
K
And
then
the
this
is
maybe
a
substantially
an
issue.
An
option
to
one
of
the
the
big
cons
was
well.
This
changes
the
sequence
in
which
the
Eagle
trail
gets
realigned,
instead
of
it
being
in
21
/,
maybe
2022.
It
occurs
much
sooner
than
that
it
happens
one
way
or
the
other,
because
it's
commanded
by
the
North
TSA
plan.
K
But
could
you
elaborate
on
what
the
concern
is
on
the
determine
whether
that
determining
the
location
of
that
trail
is
somehow
affected
by
whether
or
not
the
shale
trail
is
part
of
that
process,
or
you
kind
of
step?
One
move
the
Eagle
trail
and
then
at
some
point
in
the
future
step
two
is
to
construct
the
shale
trail
yeah.
R
My
concern
would
be
that,
without
looking
at
the
whole
aerial
holistically,
we
could
could
reroute
realign
reroute
the
Eagle
Trail
in
a
position
that
doesn't
work
as
well
as
we
might
have.
If
we
looked
at
the
whole
area
all
at
once,
and
so
we
may
reroute
it
in
an
area
that
doesn't
work
as
well
as
we'd.
Like
you
know,
and
so
then
the
decision
will
be
do
we.
You
know
abandon
part
of
it
reroute
the
reroute
that
sort
of
thing
or
do
we
just
live
with
something
that's
less
than
we
might
have
wished
for.
Okay,.
P
I
had
an
idea
I
actually
spent
an
afternoon
out
at
this
place.
That's
a
Kurd
I
sent
me
an
email
saying
like
where
is
this
place,
and
so
I
showed
him
on
the
map
and
then
I
went
out
and
spent
an
afternoon
out
there,
just
sort
of
watching
people
who
use
this
trail
and
then
I
watched
people
use
a
cobalt
trail,
and
this
trail
seal
is
in
the
time
I.
Was
there
maybe
five
times
as
much
pedestrian
use
as
the
cobalt
trail
does.
P
So
it's
the
trail
that
people
are
using
as
pedestrians,
so
not
that
I'm
necessarily
a
huge
fan
of
this
idea,
but
in
safety
sake,
what
about
option?
Six
close
eagle
trail,
two
bikes,
open,
cobalt
trail,
two
bikes
leave
it
everything,
just
as
it
is
until
you
get
to
this
major
reprocessing
in
2021
20:22,
and
so
therefore
you
do
no
new
trail
construction,
no
major
maintenance,
no
environmental
needs!
You
have
a
bike
trail.
Well,
you
have
multi
user
trail.
You
have
a
pedestrian
trail.
The
pedestrian
trail
becomes
the
most
used
pedestrian
trail.
P
C
What
are
the
advantages
of
that
idea,
and
it's
mentioning
one
kevin
is
that
I
when
I
went
out
there
for
two
or
three
hours
and
talked
to
people
my
impression
was
eat.
Okay,
I've
got
a
lot
of
pedestrian
usage
by
people
that
weren't
going
all
day
of
the
race.
They
were
going
start
out
back
because
it's
you
know
it's
a
ways
out
till
you
get
to
the
drop-off
and
a
lot
of
dog
walking
and
such
III
do
think
that
that
sign
at
the
top
is
useful.
C
I
think
if
we're
gonna
continue
that
which
we
probably
should
do
regardless.
It's
just
my
thought,
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
put
signs
at
the
trailheads
too,
because
I
think
right
now
you
can,
if
you're
an
inexperienced
rider.
You
can
get
all
the
way
out
there
and
not
know
until
you
get
to
the
sign
that
says.
20%
great
I
did
run
into
some
people
that
have
gone
out
and
turn
around
come
back.
C
I
also
ran
into
bike
riders
that
had
just
gone
up
and
down
it,
which
is
amazing
to
me,
since
I
could
barely
get
up.
It
was
so
icy,
so
I
do
think
with
multiple
additional
signs.
We
could
probably
make
sure
as
best
we
can,
that
nobody's
gonna
come
to
the
top
and
start
down
at
unawares.
Is
it
a
lot
worse
in
the
wintertime
I
mean
it
just
seems
to
me
once
it's
icy.
It's
just.
C
So
it's
partly
sort
of
a
seasonal
thing
too
I
mean
I,
almost
wonder
if
it
gets
to
a
point
where
you
should
do
a
temporary
closure
on
it,
because
it's
just
not
safe
if
it's
full
of
ice,
but
you
know
I
mentioned
that
to
some
riders
and
they
said
I
just
go
around
your
sign.
You
know
so
anyway,
people
have
a
wide
range
of
skills
or
a
wide
range
of
preferences
for
their
territory.
B
Changing
I
mean
it
looks
like
you've
got
a
lot
of
things
that
were
ahead
of
this.
Can
you
speak
so
if
we've
had
one
one
accident,
that's
been
reported
in
16
years.
How
many
accidents
are
we
incur
in
on
like
Royal
Arch?
So
if
we
put,
which
is
a
safety
hazard
in
air
canyon
trail?
Whoever
out,
can
you
give
me
an
idea
of,
and
you
know,
are
they
experiencing
a
lot
of
accidents
that
are
being
reported
or
yeah.
R
I,
don't
know
I
didn't
ask
for
that
data,
but
I
can
get
it.
Burton
got
this
for
me,
so
I'm
sure
he
can
get
that
data
for
us,
okay,
but
but
I,
would
you
know
point
out
that
what
we
have
is
only
only
the
ones
that
are
reported
right
and
oftentimes.
The
only
ones
that
are
reported
are
the
ones
that
call
in
911
for
help.
If
I
can
help
yourself
or
you
got
a
friend,
you
know
that
sort
of
thing
we
probably
never
hear
about
it.
Yeah.
I
R
R
P
It's
it's
hard
to
say:
I
would
guess
it's
probably
getting
to
be
more
because
we're
increasing
users
and
there's
also
this
is
a
place
where
people
go
who
are
beginning
riders.
I
would
add
to
this
so
like
one
of
the
other
board
members
who
I
will
not
mention
by
name
I
may
have
had
to
take
that
person
out
of
South
Boulder
after
breaking
a
clavicle.
Really,
we
did
not
call
that
in
everyone.
In
my
my
score,
riding
group
have
been
at
the
hospital
or
the
emergency
room.
P
Many
many
times
from
biking
yeah
and
have
never
called
in
their
accident.
Not
once
and
like
I
had
a
humerus
broken
off
at
the
top
of
a
trail,
I
had
to
walk
six
miles,
I
didn't
call
in
and
say,
like:
hey
I
had
an
accident
on
your
trail
today.
I
was
much
more
concerned
about
you
know
getting
my
arm
put
back
together
and
so
I
think
probably
accident
reporting's,
not
a
good
gauge,
it'd,
be
probably
a
better
idea.
P
If
you
want
to
know
it's
like
send
out
something
to
BMA
or
to
like
active
groups
and
say
hey,
has
anyone
had
an
accident
on
this
trail
and
I
bet
you
get
a
laundry
list
for
any
trail
yeah,
but
but
this
one
would
definitely
have
a
lot
of
people.
I
mean
my
next-door
neighbor
broke
her
hip.
My
wife's
best
friend
broke
her
humerus
on
it
and
that's
two
people
I
know
in
the
last
five
years.
Who've
done
it,
neither
of
them
called
it
in
so.
J
Like
to
offer
that
I
feel
that
it's
not
only
a
downhill
hazard
for
inexperienced
users,
but
an
uphill
hazard,
it
gets
really
gravelly
in
the
steepest
part
and
if
you
try
and
you're
like
oh
I
can't
do
this.
If
you're
on
a
bike
and
you
try
and
get
off,
you
can
tumble
and
stuff
like
that.
So
if
we
take
the
signage
approach,
it
needs
to
be
properly
signed
at
the
base
as
well.
C
A
C
There,
if
you're
gonna
ride
the
eagle
trailers,
a
part
of
the
you'll
thrill,
that's
really
I
mean
it's
sort
of
like
the
sign
we
have
at
the
bottom
of
it.
What
does
it
Greenman
that
says?
Oh
by
the
way,
halfway
up
there's
a
ladder,
and
you
need
to
be
aware
of
this
now
something
like
that
that
lets
people
plan
a
little
better
mm-hmm.
K
Make
a
few
comments.
One
is
that
you
know
it's
not
exactly
in
our
mission
statement,
but
in
our
sort
of
statement
of
values
we
often
say
safety,
first
and
I.
Think
we
should
you
know
we
want
to
be
serious
about
that.
A
lot
of
times,
like
particular
in
rock
climbing,
is
just
the
nature
of
the
experience
and
there's
not
much
you.
Can
it's
not
our
responsibility
to
manage
that?
This
is
a
little
different
in
that
you.
K
Whichever
way
you
approach,
it
is
basically
a
dead
flat
trail
which
suddenly,
as
a
radical
change
in
character
and
kind
of
related
to
that
it's
the
only
on
trail
way
of
connecting
to
you
know,
fairly
significant
parts
of
the
system.
If
you
want
to
get
from
the
lead,
hill
or
Wendelin
lake
area
over
to
Boulder,
Valley,
Ranch
or
vice-versa,
this
is
the
only
way.
This
is
the
way
to
do
it
and
the
fact
that
it's
such
a
lousy
connection.
K
You
know
it
means
that
some
people
who
are
on
there,
who
probably
shouldn't
it,
also
just
affects
the
experience
of
of
those
who
choose
to
do
that.
That
said,
I
think
we
have
to
be
extremely
careful
about
sort
of
dramatically
changing
priorities
that
are
set
out
in
the
North
TSA.
Those
plans
had
all
kinds
of
trade-offs
and
compromises,
and
if
someone
felt
that
a
particular
option
really
prioritized
one
group
getting
what
they
wanted
sooner
than
someone
else
got
what
you
know
they
may
feel
as
a
give
to
them.
K
Those
can
be
those
can
be
very
tricky,
particularly
because
in
the
North
TSA
we
did
prioritize
the
creation
of
the
interim
joder
trail.
We
said
you
know
we
want
to
do
that
first,
and
that
was
you
know
candidly
a
deviation
and
so
I
think
we
already.
You
know
we
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
and
I
think
you
are
doing
something
that
appears
to
reprioritize
things
that
said,
complete
independent
of
Kevin
I
had
come
to
approximately
the
same
place
that
maybe
the
best
world
is
just
to
open.
Cobalt
and
close.
K
Some
are
all
of
Eagle
to
bikes
that
doesn't
involve
any
rerouting
of
anything,
and
the
ultimate
decision
are
where
to
put
coal
ball.
Shale
and
Eagle
can
proceed
at
at
your
pace
and
that
your
judgement
on
how
to
holistic
we
manage
that
I.
Think
the
cobalt
is
a
sensible
connection
to
get
from
the
West.
A
C
P
Think
that
how
you
define
beginner
is
really
variable.
This
is
much
much
much
more
beginner
than
the
Eagle
Trail
I.
Think
that,
like
the
it's
also
because
of
the
way
that
the
trail
currently
is
there
not
a
lot
of
surprises
and
the
challenge
I
think
with
the
Eagle
trail,
is
that
people
who
are
not
familiar
with
riding
on
a
35
percent
slope,
which
basically
does
not
exist
any
place
on
any
trail
anywhere
in
Boulder,
where
a
bike
would
be
allowed.
P
It's
a
very
different
experience.
Don't
to
try
and
understand
what
you
would
do
there
with
a
trail
that
has
you
know,
there's
a
few
ledges
that
are
about
this
high
on
it.
Those
are
things
that
people
experience,
rocks
and
ledges
throughout
our
trail
system,
I
mean
all
throughout
the
Marshall
Mesa
area.
P
You
have
those
sorts
of
things
in
plain
sight
all
the
time.
So
again,
it's
not
perfect,
like
perfect,
would
be
like
a
paved
path.
You
know
in
terms
of
safety
for
obstacles,
but
this
is
not
out
of
the
character
of
what
I
think
people
experience
throughout
all
a
lot
of
our
southern
trail
system
already
and
I.
Think
it
also
fits
in
character
with
sort
of
a
beginning
to
easy
intermediate
level
trail
as
opposed
to
something
that's
not.
B
Well,
I'll
make
a
few
comments:
I
use
that
trail
for
30-some
years
and
I
remember
going
to
the
edge
of
it.
The
first
time
on
a
mountain
bike
and
looking
down
and
going
good
Lord
I'm
gonna
break
every
bone
in
my
body
and
I
still
went
down.
That
was
much
much
younger,
but
I
think
that
one
thing
that
concerns
me
a
little
bit
is
the
budgeting
and
the
reprioritizing
is
a
big
concern,
given
that
this
has
been
an
issue
for
as
long
as
I've
known
it.
B
It's
an
issue
because
it's
the
North
pacing
with
a
very
high
you
slope
that
never
seats,
you
know
never
sees
Sun
and
hard
it'll
be
once
it
gets
ice
or
anything
on
it.
It's
not
a
great
trail
anytime
of
the
year
I
mean
when
I
used
to
do
my
triathlon
training,
that's
great
drop
dead
on
then
you
got
off
your
bike
and
you
ran
back
up
and
ran
back
down
was
a
great
exercise,
but
it's
been
a
trio.
That's
problematic,
so
I
would
want
us
to
look
seriously.
B
Yet
what
would
be
the
cost
of
things
that
we
would
do
if
we
were
you
prioritize?
I
mean
I
like
this
idea
that
we
could
shift
things
I,
don't
think.
It's
probably
that
simple
I
know
a
lot
of
equestrians
who
take
that
trail
up
walk
the
horses
up
on
the
Mesa.
It
is
a
shared
situation.
It
is
used
a
lot
and
you're.
B
So
if
we
could
look
at
what
that
would
do,
my
inclination
would
just
be
to,
but
how
good
signs
and
call
it
a
day
wait
for
the
winner
to
go
away
and
then
start
working
on
I
mean
it's
a
kind
of
mirroring
what
Tom
said.
It
worries
me
a
bit
to
reprioritize,
especially
in
a
year
when
we're
doing
a
master
plan
kind
of
says,
you
know
we're
gonna
sort
of
suddenly
change
things.
I
think
we
need
to
assure
the
citizens
that
what
we've
said
and
identified
and
what
we're
gonna
do
given.
This
was
new
news.
B
You
know,
if
suddenly
we
add
a
lot
of
search
and
rescues,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
problems
on
that
specific
trail.
Then
yeah,
maybe
but
I,
see
some
of
these
other
like
bear
Canyon
reroute
didn't
some
of
these
we've
been
talking
about
since
I've,
been
on
the
board,
so
I
hate
to
see
them
get
shoved
down
the
road
to
reprioritize,
something
that
has
been
a
nun
thing
and
with
that
said,
I
do
like
the
comment
of
the
serpentine.
B
If
we
do
that,
that
seems
like
a
pretty
good
compromise,
because
I
agree,
I
mean
you
get
to
the
edge,
and
you
know
we
you've
been
up
there
riding
along
it's
night
and
then
boom
it.
Just
I
watched
I
get
to
award
for
the
most
dedicated
if
we
remember
and
it
took
45
minutes
to
get
to
the
base
of
the
Dre.
Oh
my.
R
B
I
I
B
B
So
one
thing
it
like
to
bring
up
at
some
point:
we
don't
have
to
discuss
it
tonight,
but
Andrea
brought
up
a
good
point
a
while
back
about
the
Menace
discussion,
just
being
that
it's
just
action
minutes
and
when
Karen's
wanted
to
add
comments
and
going
into
the
master
plan
process.
I
think
maybe
you
hope
it'd
be
earth
to
do
a
little
more
discussion.
Do
we
want
to
expand
the
minutes
so
that
people
who
are
talking
during
the
master
plan
film
or
include?
B
Maybe
this
is
something
we
should
talk
about,
maybe
not
tonight
and
I
just
sort
of
wound.
It
laid
out
there
and
then
number
two
that
I'd,
like
to
reiterate.
I
got
a
comment
from
a
user
who
was
asking
if
it
was
necessary
or
if
it
was
a
big
deal
to
close
the
gates
on
the
public
property
out
at
Boulder.
B
Valley,
Ranch
and
I
was
out
there
a
couple
days
ago
and
someone
made
legally
came
through
the
bed
who
kept
the
gate
open
from
the
not
even
on
the
trail
and
let
all
the
kills
that
held
I
was
standing
there,
but
it
happened
it.
He
gave
a
pretty
big
issue
and
I
asked
the
lessee.
If
this
was
common,
he
said
it's
now
happening
at
a
rate
of
one
to
two
times
a
day.
B
C
B
The
bottom
of
the
meadow
there
appears
to
have
been
a
social
trail,
that's
been
made
now,
and
it
is
quite
common
now
so
I
just
you
know,
wanna
put
it
out
staff
that
mainly
would
have
put
it
out
to
citizens.
To
really
be
aware.
You
know
when
cows
get
out
on
the
highway,
it's
black
cow
in
the
middle
of
the
nights,
not
a
good
thing
to
hit
so
Molly's.
M
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
a
burden,
ya
know
regarding
their
focus
patrol
and
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
then
get
back
to
you.
Okay,.
P
Can
I
add
something
to
what
you're
saying
in
in
my
new
skill
set
that
I've
acquired
in
the
last
six
months,
working
for
Environmental,
Defense
Fund,
one
of
the
things
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
is
working
with
ranchers
to
see
how
they
manage
their
herd
and
the
one
thing
that
I've
learned
we
were
told
previously
like.
Oh,
we
can't
really
know
what
the
lessees
are
doing
with
their
cattle
and
that's
pretty
fallacy.
P
Even
if
the
cows
get
out
of
the
gate,
they
obviously
had
to
go
to
get
the
cows
back
in
the
gate
and
close
the
gate.
So
it's
not
like
they're,
never
there,
and
that
might
be
a
really
good
working
way,
not
only
for
people
to
know
that
the
cow
are
there,
but
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
how
working
ranches
work.
So
that
would
be.
My
thinking
is
just
in
the
longer
run.
That
might
be
a
good
way
to
sort
of
address
cows.
Getting
out.
P
P
I
think
that's
the
expectation,
but
that's
not
what
people
do
and
you
need
to
create.
A
motivation
like
this
is
how
most
conservation
science
works
right
is
it
it's
not
like.
This
is
what
you
have
to
do
it.
This
is
what
you
want
to
do,
and
and
and
in
this
case,
having
an
appreciation
for
why
the
gates
are
there
and
why
they
should
remain
closed,
is
obviously
not
something
that
people
are
really
feeling
I.
Think
if
you
said,
if
you
leave
this
gate,
open
cows
are
gonna
come
running
out
in
half
an
hour.
P
Do
you
be
like
oh
I'm,
not
gonna?
Do
that
that
you
know
that's
not
funny.
I
think
they
just
don't
think
they're
cows
they're
that
that
it's
not
a
real
concern
and
that's
because
people
don't
understand
how
active
ranches
work.
That's
my
my
take
on
it.
Anyways
I,
don't
think
people
are
malicious,
I,
think
they're,
just
negligent
Kevin.
M
And
we
do,
you
know
you
know,
based
off
the
AG
plan.
Remember
we're
gonna
go
into
a
series
of
meetings
with
the
leases
regarding
the
rates
and
everything
so
we'd
be
happy
to
bring
up
that
topic
and
find
out
to
what
extent
it
is
and
what
problem
it
is,
and
we
can
get
back
to
you
more.
We
can
do
to
mitigate
yeah
and
have
that
direct,
proactive
conversation
with
them.
I.
K
I
would
say,
I
think
we've
covered
the
update
on
what
happened.
If
there
are
I
think
we
always
want
to
leave
time
for
other
board
members
yeah,
it's
feedback
to
us.
If
any,
but
I
think
as
a
practical
matter.
This
is
going
to
council
very
shortly
and
that's
the
next
significant
event,
and
but
we
will
have
a
you
know.
We
have
another
process
committee
meeting
in
two
weeks,
so
there's
certainly
opportunities
that
people
have
things
they
want
to
pass
on
to
be
the
time
to
do
it.
C
I
do
agree
with
your
point
Molly
that
we
may
get
more
and
more
and
more
people
standing
up
at
our
meetings
to
basically
give
input
to
the
master
plan
and
so
you're
right
I
think
we
should
anticipate
that
and
work
with
the
staff
that
are
working
on
the
master
plan.
I
mean
we
may
even
these
meetings
may
be
becoming
another
opportunity
to
fill
out
feedback
forms
and
comment
forms
and
all
sorts
of
things
like
that
and
I
think
looking
ahead
to.
That
would
be
a
good
idea.
Yeah.
J
If,
if
we're
gonna
go
to
into
great
detail
to
record
public
comments
on
the
master
plan
in
the
minutes,
wouldn't
it
be
fair
to
some
extent,
to
record
our
comments
a
little
bit
on
the
master
plan
when
we
discuss
it
as
a
board,
I
mean,
as
the
does
the
action
minutes
now
stand.
Our
only
voice
is
through
a
motion
and
I.
Think
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
not
motioning,
but
a
lot
of
discusses
discussing
having
me
on
board
so.
K
This
may
inform
Andrea
I'm,
assuming
that
Darrin
would
our
staff,
but
probably
Darrin,
would
take
anything
that
gets
said
at
a
board
meeting
just
as
something
that
got
said
at
an
open
house
or
through
any
number
of
other
forums
and
work
that
end.
So
it
seems
to
me
the
important
thing
if
use
you
know
it's
perfectly
appropriate
for
people
to
speak
at
a
board
meeting
discussing
the
master
plan,
but
to
make
sure
that
gets
funneled
into
the
master
plan.
Way
of
collecting
comments
to
me.
K
M
And
I
think
you
know:
we've
got
a
pretty
good
track
record
of
collecting
comments,
every
comment
and
then
also
providing
summaries
of
comments,
and
that
is
the
intent
in
the
master
plan
and
actually
it's
a
good
point.
We
did
update
this
form
to
note
that
other
ways
to
provide
input
were
through
the
board
and
the
council.
So
there
is
that
opportunity
collected
and
then
yes
to
reflect
the
board,
come
inaccurately.
J
J
Now
that
we're
about
to
start
that
process,
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
ping
the
board
and
see
how
people
felt
I
mean
it
might
be
a
good
time
to,
for
example,
a
couple
of
us
penned
an
op-ed,
and
it's
basically
about
we're
starting
this
process
and
we're
so
excited
for
everybody
in
the
community
to
come
forward
and
be
part
of
this
process.
And
we've
got
this
awesome
system
overview
report
coming
out,
and
it's
good.
A
rock
I'd
be
happy
to
start
that
and,
of
course,.
J
C
K
C
J
M
T
C
C
C
J
You
were
saying
as
a
as
a
hopeful
publication
date:
yeah
I,
see,
I
mean
I'm
comfortable,
bringing
it
back.
You
feel
like
the
timeline
allows
it
and
the
opening
slowly
opening
cranking
open
the
window
of
engagement.
So
yeah
I
just
want
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
try
and
engage
more
of
the
public.
J
I
T
Jill
good
evening,
members
of
the
open
space
Board
of
Trustees,
again
Phil
cowen,
principal
traffic
engineer
with
the
city
of
Boulder
and
I'm
here
as
part
of
a
team.
That's
been
working
over
the
last
couple
years
on
the
development
of
the
Chautauqua
access
management
plan
and
we're
here
this
evening
to
solicit
a
recommendation
from
yourselves
concerning
some
ordinance
changes
that
are
necessary
in
order
for
us
to
move
forward
with
the
next
pilot
program.
This
summer.
Of
course,
we're
going
to
take
this
opportunity
to
brief
you
on
some
of
the
components
of
that
program.
T
Again,
one
final
time
before
this
matter
goes
to
City
Council.
You
may
remember
this
graphic
here.
This
shows
sort
of
the
history
of
this
effort
how
it
starts
with
access
concerns
in
Chautauqua
and
the
lease
that
we
have
with
them
moves
through
data
collection
in
2016,
a
robust
process,
public
input
process
that
we
went
through
following
not
including
a
great
community
working
group,
the
summer
pilot
program.
T
The
program
is
past
summer
2017
and
now
we're
in
the
red
stage,
trying
to
finalize
this
program,
or
at
least
set
it
up
for
the
next
phase
of
piloting
over.
We
would
anticipate
say
the
next
five
years
to
get
to
this
point
since
the
pilot
program
we've
engaged
in
a
considerable
amount
of
community
feedback.
The
vast
majority
of
it
was
very
positive
over
what
transpired
over
the
summer,
and
we
briefed
you
on
this.
T
T
These
are
the
components
of
the
pilot
program
that
we
showed
you
before,
there's
just
a
couple
that
are
highlighted
that
are
different
from
the
last
time
that
we
were
here.
We
had
thought
that
we
might
be
as
a
city
further
along
on
the
NPP
zone
management
and
have
new
NPP
pricing
that
was
associated
with
that.
That's
not
going
to
be
the
case,
so
the
residents
that
will
be
charged
permits
will
simply
be
charged
permit
fees
that
are
similar
to
our
current
NPP
pricing
and
will
be
prorated
for
the.
T
T
T
T
T
T
Our
staff
has
been
trying
to
work
with
those
folks
and
do
what
we
can
to
mitigate
those
issues
we
do
feel
like
it
is
necessary
to
run
the
transit
service
on
ninth
Street
and
connect
to
the
downtown,
but
we're
gonna
make
sure
that
when
we
go
through
the
procurement
process
for
transit,
that
we
includes
some
requirements
that
ensure
that
they're
using
buses
that
make
less
noise
that
they're
not
speeding
that
there
be
penalties
if
they
fail
to
do
so.
So
we're
gonna
try
to
address
the
noise
issue.
T
My
understanding
is
that
it's
going
to
have
noise
parameters
that
would
probably
be
met
by
electric
vehicles
and
not
met
by
others,
but
we'll
have
to
see
what
people
bid
right,
let's
see
what
they
put
forward
and
okay.
This
question
came
up
at
tab
two
nights
ago.
If,
if
the
only
companies
that
bid
on
this
only
bid
and
with
vehicles
that
are
noisier
than
we
would
prefer,
then
we're
gonna
have
a
difficult
choice
to
make
about
what
to
do.
T
The
the
key
ones
that
we
addressed
with
the
transportation
Advisory
Board
has
to
do
with
allowing
a
neighborhood
permit
parking
program
to
exist
in
the
Chautauqua
area
and
allowing
it
to
specifically
to
occur
on
weekends
and
holidays
as
it
pertains
to
open
space
they
have
to
do
with
allowing
for
hourly
parking
in
the
Ranger
lot
having
the
day,
lien
yearly,
open
space
permits
that
are
pleasant
or
other
open
space,
trailheads
not
being
valid,
not
basically
taking
the
place
of
paying
for
parking
in
the
ranger
lot
and
then
not
being
exemptions
for
residents
in
when
they
pay
to
park
in
the
ranger
lot.
T
Those
are
the
key
ordinance
changes
that
we
are
seeking
input
from
your
board
before
we
go
to
City
Council,
oh,
and
just
to
be
clear
that
we
are
advancing
a
five-year
sunset
period
rather
than
a
single
year.
We'd
prefer
not
to
keep
coming
back
every
year
to
get
these
ordinance
changes.
Well,
miss
you
yeah.
I
T
So
here's
here's
the
schedule
we
briefed
tab
on
on
Monday,
we're
here
talking
with
you
this
evening
we
have
a
first
reading
with
Council
on
February
6,
a
second
reading
and
hopefully
final
reading
on
February
20th.
That
will
give
us
the
months
of
March
may
to
int
and
prefer,
and
then
you
should
expect
to
see
post
summer
reporting
in
the
fall
and
our
team
is
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
and
we
appreciate
your
recommendation.
I.
K
T
K
Honestly
didn't
understand
the
change,
it
would
now
say
you
know.
If
your
permit
or
a
fee
is
required,
you
have
to
pay
the
fee.
I
would
have
thought
you'd
have
to
do
whichever
one
applied.
If
the
permits
required.
You
have
to
display
the
permit
if
the
fees
required
you
have
to
pay
the
fee.
So
it
wasn't
quite
understanding
the
language
that
car
struck.
K
U
K
Is
it
used
to
say
if
you
have
to
have
a
permit,
you
have
to
display
the
permit
correct
little
sense.
It
now
would
say
if
you
have
to
have
a
permit
or
pay
a
fee,
you
have
to
pay
the
fee
and
I'm
not
sure
why
I
just
try
to
understand
why
the
requirement
that
you
display
a
permit
God
struck
from
the
ordinance.
U
Shirt,
so
this
relates
to
the
the
use
of
parking
technology,
basically,
a
license
plate
base
permits
in
the
area
so
as
as
previously
written,
because
no
actual
physical
permit
is
issued.
That
was
struck
that
the
enforcement
simply
occurs
through
checking
the
license
plate
against
the
the
permit
system
when
they
pay
the
fee.
All.
T
I
would
only
offer
as
well
that
the
process
that
we
go
through
when
we
are
seeking
an
ordinance
change
is
that
we
work
with
the
City
Attorney's
office
and
they
tell
us
what
the
language
is.
That
needs
to
to
be
there.
So
there
may
very
well
be
some
language
in
there
that
we
can't
tell
you
why
it's
written
that
particular
way,
because
that's
just
the
way
the
attorneys
told
us
it
name
to
be
I.
P
Just
had
one
question
since
I
I
mean
I
think
this
is
great
program.
I'm,
really
excited
that
it's
gonna
keep
going.
I'm,
also
really
excited
that
you're
stretching
it
for
a
few
years.
The
one
thing
that
I
kind
of
was
wondering
about.
You
know
in
the
pilot.
There
were
issues
with
where
people
would
Park
that
during
the
summertime
for
part
of
it
was
school
parking
lots
and
that
you
know
school
comes
back
into
session
and
since
you're
extending
the
season,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly.
Yes,
how
are
you
managing
that
and
looking
into
the
future,
so.
T
In
the
pilot
program,
we
had
two
at
the
back
end
of
the
year,
stop
using
the
Boulder
Valley
School
District
lot
and
only
use
the
region
lot
for
one
weekend
and
we
may
find
ourselves
having
to
do
that
again
with
the
extension.
There
may
be
weekends,
where
we
are
only
able
to
use
the
Cu
lot
and
not
use
the
Boulder
Valley
School
District
lot,
but
we
don't
yet
know
we
have
not
yet
negotiated
with
the
Boulder
Valley
School
District.
What
we
can
still
make
the
lot
available
to
us
and
not.
T
J
I
had
a
question
for
open
space
staff
so
in
the
attachment
made
the
final
staff
recommendations,
program,
duration
and
data
collection.
One
of
the
data
collection
efforts
is
Chautauqua,
trail
use,
so
I'm
curious.
What
data
has
been
collected
previous
to
the
implementation
of
the
2217
rollout
of
camp
and
how
that
how
we're
gonna
collect
that
data
in
the
future
sure.
U
U
U
U
We
we
did
have
it's
not
gonna,
be
as
easy
to
compare
it
to
2017,
because
that
trail
was
more
in
flux
during
that
period.
But
it
will
its
it'll
be
comparable
to
2015.
It'll
also
be
comparable
to
the
data
that
we
collected
in
2016,
which
is
still
in
process
for
system-wide,
visitation,
estin,
okay
and.
C
U
J
J
T
You
thank
you
very
much
I
just
like
to
say
on
a
personal
note,
transportation
staff
doesn't
get
a
chance
to
work
with
open
space
staff
very
much,
and
we
have
found
it
to
be
a
real
pleasure
to
do
so
in
this
project.
Staff
has
been
tremendously
collaborative
and
we
could
not
have
done
it
the
project
without
them.
So,
oh,
thank
you.
Thanks
Bill
same.
A
V
V
Evening,
Luke
McCabe
property
agent
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
request
that
board
approve
the
conveyance
of
a
private
water
line
easement
over
a
portion
of
the
42
acre,
schwarz,
open
space
property
to
Michael
and
Eileen
Ryan.
If
approved,
the
conveyance
of
the
water
line.
Easement
will
be
pursuant
to
the
disposal
procedures
of
article
12,
section
177
of
the
city
charter
contingent
on
the
department's
purchase
of
the
49
acre,
Ryan
and
Rosenblatt
property,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
Schwartz
property,
of
which
mr.
Ryan
is
one
of
the
owners.
V
So,
although
in
conjunction
with
the
acquisition
of
the
Ryan
and
Rosa
blog
property,
which
was
unanimously
approved
by
both
board
and
council
and
fall
to
2016,
but
has
yet
to
close
due
to
a
contingency
in
the
purchase
contract
which
I'll
discuss
in
a
moment,
the
board's
approval,
the
water
line.
Easement
of
the
Schwartz
property
to
mr.
and
mrs.
Ryan,
is
a
disposal
and
therefore
must
be
in
accordance
with
section
177
of
the
Charter
and
section
177
of
the
charters
in
front
of
you.
But
I've
also
included
it
as
a
footnote
on
page
1.
V
So
it's
part
of
the
purchase
contract
with
the
sellers
for
the
Ryan
arosa
block
property.
Oh
SNP
agreed
to
a
contingency
whereby
the
sellers
have
the
option
to
obtain
an
acceptable
alternative
water
supply
such
as
a
domestic
water,
tap
to
serve
the
residents
and
the
equestrian
operation
located
on
the
45
acres.
They
are
retaining
if
an
alternative
water
supply
cannot
be
obtained.
The
sellers
have
the
right
to
terminate
the
purchase
contract
with
osm
P.
Furthermore,
at
the
old
turn
over
water
supply
requires
a
water
line
Eastman
over
the
49
acre
property.
V
The
sellers
have
the
right
to
retain
a
permanent
water
line,
easement
prior
to
selling
the
property
to
OS
MP
and,
as
a
reminder,
the
49
49
Acre
property.
We're
trying
to
acquire
is
open
space
is
the
the
green
parcel
on
the
map
in
front
of
you
and
the
45
acre
property.
The
sellers
are
retaining.
Is
the
maroon
area
on
that
same
same
map.
V
So
when
OS
NP
agreed
to
this
contingency
in
the
purchase
contract,
the
sellers
were
pursuing
a
domestic
water
line
from
Arapaho
Avenue,
which
would
have
required
a
retained
Eastman
along
the
49
acres
to
be
acquired
by
OS
NP.
This
water
line,
Eastman
alignment
is
identified
as
option.
2
marked
an
orange
on
the
map
in
front
of
you,
however,
since
entering
into
contract
with
the
OS
NP,
the
sellers
learned
that
acquiring
a
water
tap
at
this
location
is
unlikely,
forcing
them
to
investigate
other
options
based
on
a
water
service
feasibility
analysis
by
jva
consulting
engineers.
V
Although
this
all
the
water
service
feasibility
analysis
also
identified
a
water
line,
extending
down
Arlington
drivin
up
75th
Street,
which
is
option
3
marked
in
red
as
a
potential
alignment,
o
S&P
rejected
this
option,
because
the
water
line
would
have
to
cross
sensitive
areas
on
the
forty-nine
acre
property,
potentially
impacting
the
property's
wetlands
Frey
parried
areas
and
dry
creek
and
dry
creek
davidson
ditch
as
a
result,
both
OS
NP
step
and
the
sellers
prefer
options
one
and
option
two
as
potential
alignments
for
a
water
line
and
a
water
line.
Easement.
V
Osp
staff
has
reviewed
the
alignment
along
option
1
and
has
determined
that
it
will
not
interfere
the
Schwartz
properties
open
space
purposes.
The
water
line
will
be
board
minimizing
surface
impacts
during
construction
into
a
depth
that
will
not
interfere
with
OS
NPS
agricultural
stewardship
for
the
property,
which
is
its
primary
open
space
purpose.
The
Eastman
will
be
far
enough
east
of
the
wetlands
and
riparian
areas
on
the
Schwartz
property
that
will
not
impact
the
sensitive
areas
and
also
the
Schwartz
properties.
Presentation
is
non-native
and
agricultural
and
does
not
support
ecologically
sensitive
flora
or
fauna.
V
With
that
said,
in
order
to
protect
the
Schwartz
properties
open
space
purposes,
in
addition
to
the
standard
terms
and
conditions,
the
department
requires
from
granting
Eastman's
over
open
space.
The
following
provisions
will
also
be
included.
The
easement
will
be
granted
by
OS
and
key
to
the
owners.
At
the
same
time,
OS
and
key
closes
on
the
purchase
of
the
49
acre
property
and
will
be
contingent
on
this
purchase
being
completed.
Only
one
of
the
two
water
line,
easement
alignment
options,
option
one
or
option
two
can
actually
be
used
for
the
installation
of
a
water
line.
V
V
So
to
summarize,
as
a
contingency
in
the
purchase
contract
for
the
forty-nine,
acre,
ryan
and
rosa
blob
property,
the
sellers
inability
to
obtain
an
acceptable
alternative
water
supply,
such
as
a
domestic
water,
tap
the
serve
the
45
acre
property.
They
are
retaining,
could
jeopardize
OS
and
peace
acquisition
of
the
49
acres,
which
oesn't
be
staff.
The
board
and
council
unanimously
supported
if
it
is
for
this
reason
and
the
determination
that
the
open
space
purposes
of
the
schwartz
property
will
not
be
compromised
by
the
conveyance
of
this
water
line.
V
C
This
seems
like
your
good
approach,
I'm
just
curious.
If
we're
graphing
these
mines,
we
say
we
should
turn
this
on.
I'll
start
over
I.
Think
this
good
approach
and
I
think
we
don't
want
to
threaten
the
the
purchase
of
a
great
property
there
you're
saying
we're
gonna
bore
under
the
ground
to
put
in
the
line.
I
assume
these
Minh
grants
them
some
rights.
If
there's
a
problem
with
the
line,
if
it
breaks
that
they've
got
to
come
in
on
the
surface
and
trench
or
whatever,
is
that
typical
yeah.
V
It's
based
on
the
water
or
feasibility
now
says
their
service
feasibility
analysis.
The
sellers
guide
they're
pretty
confident
that
they
will
be
able
to
to
bore,
but
it
occurred
you're
right
that
they
could
encounter
problems
at
the
time
of
installation
that
would
require
them
to
to
trench
our
when
our
resource
staff
or
agricultural
staff,
our
ecological
resources
staff
reviewed
these
meant
they
took
that
into
consideration
and
the
department
and
working
with
CA.
V
V
Not
familiar
I'm
just
trying
to
pull
up
the
Schwartz
property
here,
I,
don't
know
the
details
of
the
lise,
the
Schwarz
property
and
it
was
leased
by
Steve
Penner,
who
is
leasing,
hunter
Kolb
and
other
agricultural
properties
interests.
This
area
I
think,
as
we
discussed
in
our
meeting,
he's
still
on
some
properties,
but
not
on
all
I
believe
he
is
not
on
this
property
at
the
moment.
So
I
don't
think
there
is
any
active
agricultural
operations
occurring
on
the
property,
but
I
can
I
can
double-check
and
confirm
with
her.
B
K
Or
I
had
a
comment.
We
often
I
think
virtually
every
disposal
I've
ever
worked
on.
We
specify
the
consideration
of
what
it
is,
we're
getting
usually
from
the
person
to
whom
the
disposal
is
being
made.
This
is
a
different
situation
because,
but
please
correct
me
if
you
think
I've
mischaracterized
this
but
I
think
it'd
be
worth
stating.
You
know
these
for
the
video
record
that
there's
no
separate
consideration
being
paid
for
this
step,
because
it
was
in
a
sense
built
into
the
original
contract
of
sale,
and
it
was
just
part
of
the
overall
deal.
K
V
That
is
correct.
We
did
consult
as
we
mentioned
the
memo.
We
consulted
the
appraiser
who
appraised
the
49,
acre
property
for
the
city
and
took
into
consideration
the
various
retained
easements
for
utilities
and
access
that
would
be
necessary.
Considering
that
we
were
essentially
kind
of
reconfiguring
property
powers,
boundaries
here
on
an-94,
which
was
I,
guess
a
four
eight
parcel,
consisting
of
94
acres
into
two
parcels
consisting
of
45
and
49
acres
and
based
on
our
conversations
with
the
appraisal
and
his
the
appraiser
and
his
assessment.
The
difference
in
value
between
option
1
and
an
option.
V
J
V
That's
the
job
of
our
real
estate
staff,
so
myself
and
Dan
Burke
and
the
real
estate
services
work
group
that
clock
starts
ticking
as
soon
as
in
this
case,
at
the
date
of
closing
on
the
49
acres,
when
both
of
these
options
will
be
granted,
the
easement
over
Schwartz
will
be
granted
by
the
city
and
technically,
the
easement
option
on
the
49
acres
will
be
reserved
by
the
landowners
prior
to
closing.
But
both
will
have
these
abandonment
provisions
in
them.