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Hal
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osbt:
okay,.
Forgive
us
folks,
give
us
a
couple
moments
to
try
and
get
the
board
in
order,
perhaps,.
While
that's
going
on
all
returned
this
item
in
order
to
keep
efficiency
up,
I'd
like
to
ask
allison
eklund
to
perhaps
give
us
the
presentation
on
the
rules
of
procedure
for
city
of
boulder
meetings.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:
okay,.
Thank
you
for
that.
Perhaps
we
could
text
dave
and
karen
to
attempt
to
leave
and
come
back
or
chat
them
while
allison
gives
the
presentation.
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Amy
siemel:,
okay,
hi
there,,
my
name
is
amy,
see
mom,
that's
my
dog.
In
the
background.
Sorry,
if
she
winds,
I
live
at
1233,
aikens,
way.
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Frances
hartogh:
yes,.
First,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
trustees
for
their
service.
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Mike
browning:,
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service,.
You
know
it's
what
makes
boulder
great.
It's
not
an.,.
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Mike
browning:
easy
job
and
you
guys
work
hard
at
it
and
do
a
great
job,.
So
thank
you
for
your
service
to
the
community,.
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
you
put
in
on
the
july
resolution
about
the
terms
conditions
under
which
you'd
consider
a
disposition
of
the
floodwall
area
on
see
you
south.
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Raymond
bridge,
boulder
county
audubon:,
the
current
and
excision
agreement
does
not
provide
any
such
guarantee.
It
merely
make
some
vague
gestures
about
cooperation,.
The
open
space
board
of
trustees
should
oppose
moving
forward
on
this
path,.
Thank
you
and
thank
you
to
the
board
for
your
service.
Tonight.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:
one
lot
is
partially
encumbered
by
the
kenyan
side:
partnership
scenic
easement,
dedicated
during
annexation
of
the
property
in
1982
there,
a
jason
so
the
open
space
properties
to
south
and
west,,
and
to
the
sep
tember
school
and
residential
motel
development
to
the
west
and
east.
The
office.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:
the
office
is
were
built
on
the
properties,
beginning
in
the
early
1980s,
though,.
One
of
the
buildings
was
completely
destroyed
in
the
2013
flood.
The
current
landowners
to
acquire
the
private
lots
beginning
in
1995
are
now
interested
in
exploring
residential
redevelopment
of.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:,
this
proposed
extinguishment
further
osm
p,
masterplan
strategies
and
charter
purposes
by
extinguishing
encumbrances
that
could
give
excuse
me,.
They
could
have
a
resource
impact
and
allowing
for
better
natural
and
scenic
resource
protection
and
enhancement
of
the
city's
open
space.
Plans.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:.
There
are
social
trails
on
that
scenic,
easement
area,,
as
well
as
I
retaining
wall
and
some
steps,
the
pre
existed,,
the
scenic
easement
they
were.
They
were
permitted
in
the
baseline
and
in
discussions,
when
the
scenic
easements
were
granted.
So
you're
allowed
to
walk
on
it.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:,
with
a
conservation,
easement
or
a
scenic
easement.
The
city
does
not
actually
own
the
property
it's
privately
owned.
We
just
have
the
certain
rights
that
are
pro.
We
have
the
right
to
enforce
the
certain
terms
that
are
prohibited
on
that
private
property,.
So
this
is
not
fee
on
land.
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Karen
hollweg:
bethany,
could
I
ask
you
to
please
put
back
up
the
map,
on
which
you
show
the
location
of
the
fence.
That's
proposed
sure.
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karen
hollweg:
and
I
keep
I
keep
getting
warnings
that
my
internet
connection
is
unstable,,
so
if
I
drop
off
I'll
try
to
get
my
way
back,
so
this
fence
goes
around
the
outside
edge
of
that
conservation.
Easement
that
dave
and
bethany
were
just
talking.
About.
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Karen
hollweg:,
that's
fine.,
karen
hollweg:,
okay,
it's
my
understanding,
that.
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karen
hollweg:
okay.
tom
and
jeannine
harrington:
my
allowed
someone
to
take
over
and
just
go
so
I'm
imagining
a
it
will
look
something
similar
to
like
what
they're
building
at
the
silver
saddle
or
what
tom
did
down
it
to
10
arapahoe.
I
that's
just
not
my
specialty,
so
I
don't
know
I
just
would
like
to
get
it
set
before
I
lose
control.
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Karen
hollweg:
okay,
thanks,,
then
the
other
question
that
I
have
to
understand
conceptually.
What
this
means
for
the
area
is
the
underground
thing
of
the.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:.
They,
as
you
point
out
here,
are
kind
of
all
over
the
place,
and
so
they're,
really
working,
at
least
within
the
the
you
know,
their
their
area
of
control
and
our
control
and
cooperation
as
well
to
through
a
proposal
development
to
be
able
to
underground
the
portion.
That
is
on
their
property.
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bethany
collins:
or
if,
if
excel
that's,
while
it's
a
and
that's
maybe
a
conversation,
also
tabs
with
city
utilities,
as
far
as
our
partnership,,
because
while
it's
in
the
county,
I
believe
that
that's
one
of
the
city
assets
so
something
we
could
certainly
open
up
to
talk
about.
As
this
as
this
gets
undertaken.
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bethany
collins:,
it's,
it
really
is
one
step.
Caroline
of
you
know,
people
do
access
through
this
office
park,
they
access
from
other
locations
to,,
and
so
this
is
an
area,.
You
know
with
with
the
the
90
arapahoe
development
that
which
will
have
about,
I
believe,
50
residents
once
constructed.
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Cob,
bethany
collins:
so,
as
far
as
applications.
We
don't
have
a
formal
way
to
apply
to
us
right
now.
We
have.
We
have
that
we,
you
know,
we
we
get
phone
calls,
we
do
a
lot
of
emails
and
we
work
together
through
a
lot
of
the
the
considerations
and
things
as
far
as
benefits,
impacts
and
and
a
lot
of
that,
balancing.
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Alison
ecklund,
cob:
episode,
or
so
in
there,,
no
one
signed
up
in
advance
of
the
meeting,,
but
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak
now,
they
can
raise
their
hand,
either
in
the
participants
box,
the
little
box
at
the
bottom
of
that
or
by
hovering
over
the
reactions
icon
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen,.
You
should.
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Tom
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jeannine
harrington:,
this
roadies
meant
really
just
affects
you
out
open
space
in
us,
so
you
get.
If
you
wanted
to
you,
get
to
drive
across
my
property.
If
I
want
to,,
we
could
pave
into
the
habitat
area
and
drive
up
there,
and
before
I
lose
control.
I
want
I
want
david
to
understand.
I
don't
want
that
road.
There.
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Tom
and
jeannine
harrington:
up
into
this
and
then
just
going
off,,
and
I
think
that
that
will
may
not
solve
the
problems
that
people
back
in
the
hca,.
But
I
think
it
will
give
you
enough
control
that,.
Then
you
could.
Your
rangers
will
be
able
to
finish
the
job,
and
it
will
make
that
area,
much
more
secure.
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Karen
hollweg:,
I'm
a
quick,
quick
comment.
First,
when
I
was
out
there,,
I
did
wind
up
talking
to
the
people
in
the
new
structure
that
is
just
south
east
in
that
part,
that
the
held
privately.
That
goes
for
the
south,,
and
they
were
not
aware
that
anything
was
was
going
on,
but,
as
tom
said,
that's.
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Karen
hollweg:
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and
that's
where
the
development
would
occur,.
As
I
understand
it,
and
the
the
east
park,
donation,
osm,
p,
property.,.
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Caroline
miller,
osbt:,
well
dave,
didn't
get
to
finish
what
he
was
saying,.
So
I
would
like
to
to
let
him
speak
and
hear
him
out.
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michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
I
missing
here.
If
we
leave
the
easement
in
place,
somebody
can
build
a
road.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:
and
that's
what's
addressed
in
the
memo,
so
my
my
concern
here
in
my
role,
of
course,
is
the
pacing
of
the
meeting,
and
all
the
business
that
we've
been
anticipating
for
a
long
time
in
front
of
us,.
I
personally
feel
that
the
provisions
and
who
are
speculations
about
will
create
those.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
because
I
do
think
it's
fair
to
to
offer
your
thoughts
outside
of
the
role
of
this
board,
but
getting
into
trying
to
control
or
speculate
on
what
other
parts
of
the
government
are
going
to
be
involved
in
the
development.
Consideration
strikes
me
as
unnecessary
and
and
frankly,
unwanted.
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Caroline
miller,
osbt:,
our
recommendation
needs
to
have
what
is
being
asked,
and
I
understand
that.
Maybe
how
reads
that
differently,.
But
it
seems
to
me
that
we're
not
really
speculating
on
who's
going
to
be
involved,
moving
forward
it
it.
It
states
it
right,
here,,
and
I
just
think
our
recommendation.
Should.
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Caroline
miller,
osbt:
linear,
like
movement
with
it
is,,
but
as
far
as
what
we
do,
for
one,,
we
should
do
to
another
and
speaking
of
all
of
it.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
confused
as
to
why
it's.
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jeannine
harrington:
oh,.
Thank
you
all
and,,
like
everyone
else
who
called
in
the
open
space,
is
one
of
the
reasons
boulder
special
and
the
reason
open
space
works
is
because
of
volunteers
and
the
community,.
Everyone
needs
to
protect
it,.
So
it
just
really
neat
to
see
you
guys
in
action.
Protecting.
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Heather
swanson,
osmp:
department
wide
projects,
so
just
a
couple
of
things
up
top
you
see
some
arrows.
Basically,
these
these
green
arrows
at
the
top,
are
showing,
when
we
added
an
f
t
to
the
wildlife
staff,
so
we
actually
not
just
a
person,
but
added
an
actual
f
t,.
So
we
jumped
up
from
to
f
to
eat
a
three
f
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Heather
swanson,
osmp:
they've
been
used
as
part
of
our
monitoring
and
research
projects
in
a
variety
of
areas,
and
so
now
I'd
like
to
leo
will
have
to
kind
of
unsure
and
reshare,.
But
I
think
we
have
a
treat
to
share
with
you
from
a
whole
suite
of
those
cameras
and
all
different
places
across
the
system.
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Will
keeley:
so
just
a
couple
more
projects
to
to
introduce
you
to
and
obviously
we
can
come
back
for.
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Will
keeley:
if
if
the
board,
would
like
to
hear
more
about
it,
but
another
data
analysis
sprint
that
we
were
able
to
work
with
brian
and
occur
on
was
analyzing
the
18
year
data
set
on.
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Will
keeley:
I
did
find
somewhere
on
on
a
couple
papers,
that
a
five
five
decimal
increase
in
on
audible
level
equals
a
45
reduction
in
distance
pray
can
detect
a
predator.
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Heather
swanson,
osmp:,
so
we
don't
have
kind
of
a
follow
up
of
yes,.
We
have
a
resident
badger
in
this
area
that
keeps
showing
up,
but
I
would
say
in
recent
years
we've
had
more
sightings
up
north
and
we
had
an
a
very,
very
long
time.
Well,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
else
to
add.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
wonderful.
With
that
we're
going
to
move
to
matters
from
the
board,.
We
do
have
a
number
of
people
from
the
city
attorney's
office
and
joe
tada.
You
cheat
on
the
line
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
their
time
and
their
willingness
to
join
us.
Here,
dan.
I
see
your
finger
up.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:
yeah
yes,
that
I
wasn't
thinking
of
that.
What
I
was
thinking
is
visualize
the
disposal
that
had
a
public
referendum,
and
then
visualize
the
ballot
would
that
ballot
in
the
informational
items
as
visualized
by
the
drafters
contain
information
for
the
public
about
what
they
stand.
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Dan
burke;,
cob,
osmp:
and
other
elements
of
the
project
groundwater,
of
course,
was
was
iterated
and
so
utility
staff
is
geared
up
to
begin
to
provide
you
with
that
next
level
of
information,
information
on
30%
design,
information
on
groundwater.
So
right
now
we're
not
envisioning
a
disposal.
Conversation.
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joe
taddeucci:
come
up
with
a
design
and
be
able
to
model
and
demonstrate
with
our
design
that
we
can
match
those
baseline
conditions.
So
there's
there's
there's
been
a
lot
of
monitoring.
That's
been
done
for
the
past
few
years
and
that'll
be
part
of
the
information
that
gets
presented
in
december.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
if
that
gets
on
the
ballot
and
people
choose
to
overrule
the
disposal.
If
city
council
doesn't
have
an
option
to
do
next,
the
property
it
puts,
it
puts
everyone
involved
as
a
participant
in
grave
harm
to
the
city
of
boulder.
The
fact
that
you
are
now
making
the
case
doing
due
to
the
permitting.
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joe
taddeucci:,
we
certainly
would
be
looking
at
the
ones
that
would
have
the
most
lead
time,
and
I
think
some
of
the
information
that
we
would
be
preparing
in
general
for
a
lot
of
the
permits
would
also
be
of
interest
to
the
board,.
And
we
will
be
providing
that
as
we're
bringing
forth
at
disposal..
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Caroline
miller,
osbt:
thank
you
for
that
are
our
permit
applications
and
public
record
or
public
knowledge,
like,
for
example,.
If
I
wanted
to
pick
any
of
these
entities
and
go
online
and
and
try
and
pull
up
what
a
permit
application
would
look
like,,
could
I
do
that,
or
is
it
with
the
permit,
be
privileged.
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potter,
cob
osmp:.
We
have
conveyed
to
them
at
the
staff
level
that
such
a
study
might
take
a
year
or
more
to
complete
before
they
would
be
able
to
build
anything.
So
certainly
getting
that
negotiated
and
squared
away
at
an
early
enough
time
would
be
in
their
interest,,
as
well
as
the
sudanese.
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michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):,
I'm
knowing
john,
that
you've
put
that
stake
in
the
ground
that
look
we're
going
to
need
a
year.
So
whenever
you
think
you
may
have
a
plan
or
an
idea,
yeah
we've
got
to
get
this
study
going,
but
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
anything
until
the
study
is
completed.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:
is
extremely
reducing
to
anxiety,
greatly
appreciate,
it,
and
certainly
clarifications
joe
on
what
the
outlook
on
the
general
timeline
is
here,
and
that
we
can
expect
a
full
some
review
of
the
underground
water
issues,.
This
really
is
helpful,,
I
think,
to
all
of
us,.
So
I
really
thank
you.
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Osbt,
michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):
yeah,.
Can
I
ask
more
some
some
logistical
questions?
I
am
I'm
one
has
to
do
with
just
the
actual
schedule
and
then
the
other
has
to
do
with.
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Caroline
miller,
osbt:
see,
if
there's
any
interpretations
in
there,.
I
knew
that
there
were
a
few
things
in
the
charter
that,
as
of
late,
it
kind
of
I
read
it
differently
than
I
had
you
know
in
in
the
prior
year.
Just
so
that
might
be
another
document
just
to
kind
of
look
through
another
time
and
yeah.
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michelle
estrella
(she,,
her,,
hers):
and,,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering,
in
terms
of
the
schedule.
Do
we're
trying
to
make
sure
I'm
able
to
participate
as
long
as
possible,,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
end
up
three.
Somebody
arranged
a
parent
teacher
conference
and
they
both
conferences
in
the
afternoon.
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Osbt,,
michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):
in
the
middle
of
the
day,,
because
I
blocked
out
the
whole
day
from
from
my
work,.
So
they
know
that
I'm
taking
the
whole
day
off
to
do
this
retreat,.
Do
we
need
that,
what
an
hour
and
a
half
break,
or
can
we
compress
it
a
little
bit,?
So
I
can
participate
longer.
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Osbt,,
michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):,
because
it
blends
and
so
well,
it
just
is
not
as
obvious
to
some
folks
that
man,
it's
now
august,
you
know,
on
august
14
or
wasn't
in
a
restriction,
it's
now
august
15
and
there
is
a
restriction,.
This
is
something
I
need
to
pay
attention
to,
because
it
stands
out
to
me
in
terms
of.
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osbt,,
michelle
estrella
(she,
her,
hers):,
like
a
wooden
thing,
where
they
actually
hang
leashes
up
and
they're
like
wow.
What
is
this?
Oh,
it's
alicia,
it's
time
to
put
the
dog
on
a
leash
just
to
grab
people's
attention
to
increase
awareness,
because
they
they
are
really
beautiful
science,,
but
I
think
that
they
can
be
easily
missed.
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Karen
hollweg:
real
people
volunteers
at
some
of
these
sites
to
to
see
if
that
increases
compliance,
if
we're
really
serious
about
using
adaptive
management
and
getting
to
the
goal
of
better
90%
compliance,,
which
is
a
big
jump,
and
it's
going
to
require.
In
my
mind,
extraordinary
measures
to
actually.