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A
A
A
B
B
Leaving
May
10th
per
open
space
mountain
park
city
of
Boulder
Board
of
Trustees,
has
now
begun.
First
item
on
the
agenda
is
approval
of
minutes
due
week
happening
comments.
I
had.
C
One
uh-huh
under
on
page
two
agenda:
item
five,
where
it
says
mark
Gershman,
Damali
Davis
gave
an
update
on
the
Green
Wave's
Advisory
Committee
I
think
we
ought
to
add
that
andrey
ability
to
be
the
new
greenways
advisory
committee
representative
after
after
the
next
doctor
thing
is
tomorrow's
meeting.
But
after
them
may
11th
the
meeting
good.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
many
asked
you
to
come
up
as
I
call
you,
so
you
can
be
waiting
at
the
front,
so
Betsy
J,
Russell,
Erickson,
Henricks
and
sorry
Harold
Houston.
B
But
if
you
could
come,
thank
you
go
ahead.
Yeah.
E
My
name
is
Betsy
J
and
I'm,
a
resident
at
4:29
Mapleton
Avenue
and
have
been
a
longtime
resident
of
Boulder
I'm
speaking
tonight.
Briefly
on
the
3:11
mapleton
site
and
the
open
space.
Other
designation
from
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
is
the
50th
anniversary
of
boulders
residents
passing
the
nation's
first
open
space
tax
I'm
sure
it
took
vision,
even
courage,
and
today
you
are
entrusted
with
on
continuing
that
legacy
and
I
want
to
thank
you,
maintenance
staff,
mental
to
the
board
related
to
311
Mapleton
states.
E
Your
mission
statement
says
that
the
board
shall
pursue
vigorously
the
implementation
of
open
space
elements
of
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
the
acquisition
of
additional
property
required
to
fulfill
the
goals
of
open
space
program,
including
quote
unionization
of
land,
for
shaping
the
development
of
the
city,
limiting
urban
sprawl
and
disciplining
growth
with
this
site
at
3:11.
Mapleton,
we
couldn't
be
more
in
need
of
disciplining
growth.
This
massive
project,
as
proposed,
will
clear-cut
stately
trees,
scrape
the
site
and
construct
35
buildings
with
new
blocking
high
fences.
E
10,000
truckloads
of
dirt
will
be
gouged
out
for
underground
parking,
as
if
it
were
a
hotel
on
28th
Street
roads
will
be
privacy,
privacy
and
trailer
access
controlled.
This
oversized
development
would
degrade
both
the
neighborhood
and
adjacent
well-loved
open
space.
The
kitchen
of
unit
j7
in
the
bathroom
of
unit
j6
are
only
10
feet
from
the
open
space
property
line.
10
feet
new
village.
E
F
You
good
evening,
I'm
Russell
Henrickson,
my
wife
not
live
it.
6:45
Concord
I
want
to
talk
about
what
the
open
space
board
can
do
about
this.
You
have
a
study
session
that
discussed
it
went
in
depth
to
me.
A
lot
of
the
questions
were
not
answered.
That
was
four
months
ago
the
May
10th
memorandum
was
issued
and
I
want
to
talk
about
several
questions
where
the
answers
were
either
non-responsive
or
evasive,
bored
question
and
what
way
does
the
open
space
other
designation
constrain
development?
F
Well,
the
answer
is
with
the
LSO
designation
in
place.
The
311
Mapleton
Investment
Group
cannot
develop
anything
on
the
four
acre
site.
I
handed
out
a
copy
of
the
planning
departments.
Response
right
here
to
the
original
application,
where
the
city
required
the
Oso
designation
be
amended,
is
a
required
condition
for
project
approval,
so
the
pain
department
says
it
needs
to
be
removed.
The
Oso
designation
for
it
to
be
built
on
ok
board
question
does
retain
the
Oso
designations.
F
These
are
great
questions,
strengthen
the
oso,
the
open
space.
My
modern
park
role,
insight
review
in
the
fate
of
the
property.
The
answer
the
question
is
by
leaving
the
Oso
designation,
the
311
mapleton
group
cannot
develop
the
four
acres.
They
can't
split
it
up
into
a
separate
entity
and
develop
it
because
code
has
a
common
ownership
for
contiguous
parcel
provision.
They
knew
all
this
when
they
bought
it.
The
sellers
knew
it
when
they
sold
it
and
it's
reflected
in
the
price.
F
If
you
take
the
o
si
o
designation
off,
it
will
significantly
increase
the
value
to
the
311
investors
and
forever
take
away
the
opportunity
for
it
to
be
used
to
solve
critical
parking
problems
as
Sanitas
and
provide
a
buffer
from
this
or
any
other
large
commercial
development.
Third
question:
could
the
city
prohibit
development
just
because
of
the
Oso?
The
answer
is
the
Oso
designation
keeps
any
development
from
occurring
under
site
review.
F
Now
I
could
be
sold
to
a
third
party
and
developed
by
right
without
site
review,
but
without
the
variances
needed
for
this
particular
piece
of
property.
It's
likely
the
economic
value
would
be
so
impaired
that
it
it's
real
highest
and
best
use
is
to
be
used
by
open
space.
So
there's
a
lot.
This
board
can
do,
and
this
is
going
to
solve
a
problem
for
the
next
generation
of
people
if
we
allow
that
Oso
designation
to
remain
so,
it's
a
viable
option
for
parking
and
as
a
buffer
for
open
space.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
B
G
H
Trustees
staff-
my
name,
is
Harold
Hall
Stein
I
serve
the
board
of
directors
of
an
organization
called
the
winter
wild
lands
Alliance
that
does
national
public
lands
work
here.
I
live
nowhere
near
the
Mapleton
site,
but
I
want
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
generally
about
some
concerns
that
I
have
related
to
the
zeitgeist
in
Boulder.
Today,
I
live
up
in
the
pelo
park
neighborhood,
where
recently
county
open
space
review
was
intentionally
skipped
over
for
a
high-density
development
project.
H
Dedications
they're
not
worth
the
paper
they're
written
on
if
those
unscrupulous
hands
are
treating
them
that
way.
These
designations,
which
we're
dealing
with
the
Oso
designation,
those
are
the
places
where
I
feel
Bulger
really
needs
to
stake
its
claim
for
its
legacy
for
open
space.
You
know,
advocacy
with
all
due
respect
to
staff
in
reading
the
memo
on
this
property.
The
feeling
I
get
is
that
there
isn't
much
creative
thinking
or
aggressive
work
being
done
to
see
what
can
be
done
on
this
particular
parcel.
H
In
fact,
it
almost
sounds
a
little
bit
like
the
lawyers
for
these
developers
have
co-opted
a
bit
of
the
review
process.
I'm,
not
technical
enough
on
the
exact
planning
process
for
this
piece,
but
I
do
want
to
encourage
you
to
do
what
we
can
to
preserve
incredible
resource
at
the
foot
of
our
crown
jewel
mount
Sanitas
I
mean
the
parking
problems
are
Warfel
up
at
Chautauqua.
H
This
is
obviously
a
key
piece
of
what
we
need
to
have
to
make
Sanitas
a
viable
reflective
place
for
the
future,
so
I
just
would
encourage
both
staff
and
you,
the
trustees,
to
consider
you
know
what
is
the
zeitgeist?
Are
we
comfortable
with
it?
Why
are
these
processes
being
rushed
for
whose
benefit
and
for
us
to
embrace
this
legacy
that
we've
earned
over
this
time?
I
guess
I've
got
a
short
bit
more
so
I'll
just
say
on
this
topic:
the
money
speaks
so
loudly
far
louder
than
the
animals
or
the
wind.
H
That's
in
the
grass
I
understand
that.
Certainly
council
has
made
clear
in
the
last
couple
years
that
they're
more
interested
in
how
loudly
the
money
speaks,
but
I
hope
you
guys
will
join
me
in
the
next
election
to
kind
of
get
rid
of
some
of
those
interests
in
this
town
to
put
those
land
preservation
interests
that
we
really
is
our
legacy.
First.
Thank
you
so
much
sure
time,
Thank.
G
Hi
I'm
Paula
Schuler,
my
address
is
45:16
Iowa
Road
in
unincorporated,
Boulder,
County
I
live
in
farm,
just
south
of
to
city
of
Boulder,
open
space
properties,
Stratton
and
Brubaker.
We
grow
grass
hay
and
raised
natural
Angus
beef.
For
many
years,
we've
had
a
problem
with
the
prairie
dogs,
from
Stratton
in
Brubaker
migrating
onto
our
property
and
causing
damage.
The
prairie
dogs
are
not
only
damaging
our
160
acre
private
piece
of
property,
they're
damaging
the
neighbors
on
every
side
of
those
parcels.
G
All
of
my
neighbors
are
battling
prairie
dogs,
I'm,
not
anti
prairie
dog,
but
we
do
not
want
prairie
dogs
on
our
property.
They
not've
lee
impact
our
land,
our
livestock
and
our
livelihood.
For
several
years,
I've
spoken
to
different
open
space
staff
members
about
our
situation.
They
always
acknowledge
the
problem.
Tell
me:
prairie
dogs
on
these
parcels
are
in
fact
incompatible
with
open
space
management
objectives.
Tell
me
the
parcels
are
on
the
removal
list,
but
then
they
tell
me
there's
nothing.
G
They
can
do
I've
written
the
City
Council,
describing
our
situation,
sent
comments
and
spoken
with
the
prairie
dog
working
group
and
now
I'm
here
in
front
of
you,
I
forwarded
you
my
email
that
I
sent
to
City,
Council
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
received
it
yet
I
didn't
get
confirmation,
but
I
just
did
it
today.
So
the
agricultural
resource
management
plan
discusses
prairie
dogs
and
it
also
goes
into
detail
about
the
priority
of
keeping
keeping
it
local,
creating
pilot
projects
and
transforming
sites,
boa
parcels
into
micro,
dairies
and
diversified
vegetable
and
pig
grazing
farms.
G
I
know
that
some,
if
not
many
of
these
Bo
ways,
will
need
prairie
dogs
remove
for
this
to
become
reality.
I
assume
that
that
is
also
a
council
priority
I'm
here
to
ask
you
to
be
better
neighbors
and
take
care
of
active,
ongoing
conflict
we
are
experiencing
from
Stratton
and
Brubaker.
Please
put
these
two
parcels
on
top
of
the
removal
priority
list,
the
damage
to
our
private
property
and
our
neighbor's
property
needs
to
stop.
We
have
hundreds
of
holes
on
our
property.
It's
both
expensive
and
time-consuming
to
battle
unwanted
prairie
dogs.
G
Who
will
help
us
revitalize
our
land?
What
are
we
supposed
to
do?
Don't
you
have
a
responsibility
to
be
a
good
neighbor
in
the
AG
plant
in
the
AG
plan
it
says:
prairie
dog,
objective
decrease
impacts
to
agricultural
production
from
prairie
dog
population.
That's
our
objective
to
AG
plan
also
says:
desired.
Condition
equals
zero
agricultural
acres,
degraded
by
prairie
dogs.
That's
what
we
want
to
respectfully
I
must
say:
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
challenge
for
the
city
of
Boulder
AG
properties.
G
If
the
current
prairie
dog
policies
and
management
practices
don't
change
by
now,
you
might
have
a
thousand
acres
of
Ag
properties
that
you
need
prairie
dogs
removed
from
with
respect
the
council's
priority
of
local
foods
and
their
desire
to
get
this
project
going.
I'm
asking
you
to
see
our
side
of
the
story
and
asking
you
to
take
care
of
this
conflict.
First,
being
a
good
neighbor
should
be
a
priority.
Thank
You
Paula.
I
The
we
had
a
meeting
with
the
open
space
on
January,
11th
and
staff
made
a
request
for
the
applicant
to
provide
if
the
applicant
was
going
to
provide
parking
for
open
space
and
mountain
parks
for
visitors,
and
they
did
ask
that
question.
But
what
was
not
the
right
answer
in
my
mind
was
the
applicants.
Response
was
no,
they
weren't
going
to
provide
any
public
parking,
and
this
is
at
the
311
Mapleton
site.
I
So
I've
lived
in
Boulder
for
50
years
and
I
grew
up
playing
on
this
land.
This
open
space,
land
and
I
can
tell
you.
There
have
been
very
few
changes
over
the
last
50
years.
The
hospital
really
didn't
have
any
major
impact
on
the
land
and
I
sure
feel
like
this.
Property
is
eminent
domain,
but
you
know
the
public
has
had
unrestricted
use
of
this
site
for
50
years
and
I.
Think
the
public's
expectation
for
this
land
is
unrestricted
use
in
the
new
plan.
I
If
this
doesn't
go
into
open
space,
this
designation
will
be
lost
forever
and
here's
one
of
the
the
big
consequences
the
the
Mapleton
Hill
community
is
really
worried
about
is
the
parking.
There
are
a
number
of
parking
spots
up
in
that
site
and
on
the
weekend,
I
went
up
there
and
the
lot
was
full
people
were
waiting
to
park
and
it's
probably
30
cars
up
there.
That
parking
is
going
to
end
up
coming
down
into
the
neighborhoods
and
so
I
went
to
the
developer
and
I
said
well,
you
know
why
don't
we
run
a
test?
I
Why
don't
we
see
what
happens?
You
know
see
how
bad
it
really
is,
and
so
I
talked
to
the
developer
and
said:
why
don't
you
block
off
the
the
site
like
when
you're
building
it?
You
know
and
kind
of
give
us
a
dry
run
to
see
what
the
impact
is
on
the
neighborhood.
But
yet
the
developer
didn't
do
anything
or
hasn't
done
anything
yet,
but
I
sure
would
like
to
see
a
dry
run
done
to
see
what
the
impact
would
be
on
the
neighborhood.
I
I
It's
a
public
street
or
it
was
a
public
street
and
something
else
that
really
bothers
me
is
they're
going
to
narrow
Maxwell
up
in
their
plans
are
going
to
make
it
narrower
and
the
reason
is
so.
They
can
maximize
their
square
footage
of
buildings.
Basically
you'll
end
up
with
a
narrow
canyon
going
up
Maxwell
into
their
into
their
property,
so
they've
legally
claimed
this
and
the
reason
I
bring
up.
Maxwell
Avenue
is
because
it's
the
access
to
that
open
space.
I
There
are
high
buildings
that
have
Maxwell
addresses
on
that
street,
and
so
some
of
the
issues,
maybe
the
look
into,
is
who
paid
for
the
Maxwell
road
surface?
Did
the
city
sweep
or
maintain
it?
You
know
with
when
it
snows
with
plowing,
and
maybe
the
maintenance
of
water
sewer
gas
lines
who
was
responsible.
I
I,
don't
believe
that
there's
been
a
substantial
study
to
the
value
of
this
land
to
the
public
and
to
the
open
space
mountain
parks,
I
think
a
huge
discussion
should
erupt
within
the
community
and
I've
heard
of
people
talking
about
yeah.
We
could
make
this
like.
You
know
the
Chautauqua
has
a
little
ranger
station.
You
know.
Maybe
this
area
would
support
something
like
that.
Developer
has
mentioned
an
outhouse,
but
we
won't
know
until
that
happens.
To
that
actually
will
be.
I
really
think
this
area
is
a
sensitive
area.
I
I
was
on
a
walk
two
nights
ago
saw
my
first
mountain
lion
in
my
neighborhood,
never
seen
one
in
50
years,
so
that
was
there's
a
treat
and
I
know
it's
a
very
sensitive
area
and
we
got
to
be
careful
with
it.
Something
else
of
concern
is
that
the
open
space
acquisition
is
at
the
very
bottom.
Excuse
me
little.
I
The
open
space
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
list,
and
the
public
is
really
unaware
of
this
potential
loss
and
I
think
we're
going
up
with
a
shiitake
problem
anyway,
just
kind
of
wrap
it
up
I
think
we
should
buy
it.
The
open
space
other
area
is
a
land
grab.
Theft
by
the
developer.
The
public
is
unaware.
There's
no
there's
been
no
public
discussion
no
prior
probably
existed
because
the
hospital
was
very
accommodating
and
again
this
is
a
sensitive
area
so
buy
it.
Thank
you
till.
J
Allen
delamere
525
Mapleton
well
having
brought
up
that
boy.
Obviously
I
need
to
improve
some
of
his
timing.
Okay,
we've
just
distributed
a
little
flow
chart
that
Elaine
McLaughlin
of
the
Planning
Department
put
together
recently
and
I
just
highlighted
the
key
milestones
on
it,
but
right
now
we're
in
the
middle
of
reuse
review
and
trying
to
do
an
evaluation
for
imports
for
the
use,
review
and
I
presume
the
planning
staff
are
actively
involved
in
that
next
slide.
Please,
oh,
maybe
I
can
do
that
yeah.
J
So
this
huge
development
I
mean
it's
massive
and
this
artist
description.
It
really
got
my
attention
because
it
makes
4th
Street
look
as
wide
as
us
36,
so
the
artists
have
really
done
a
quite
a
job.
Rebecca's
house
which
is
down
at
the
bottom
of
that
is
a
tiny
house
compared
with
what's
ahead.
So
this
is
the
open
space
other
the
way
I've
drawn
the
map.
One
of
my
problems
is
trying
to
define
the
boundary
accurately
for
open
space.
Other
and
I
really
need
help
from
staff.
J
In
order
to
do
that,
I've
had
many
communications
with
staff
this
week,
because
I
was
wanting
to
try
and
give
some
factual
information.
So
right
now
that
red
line
is
a
figment
of
my
imagination.
The
brown
line
is
the
roughly
the
existing
road
and
the
new
road
is
going
to
cut
way
into
the
hillside.
The
box.
There
is
building
B
that
comes
into
it
and
it
digs
deep
into
the
hillside
and
the
new
road
is
going
to
dig
deep
into
the
hillside
as
well.
J
So
we
need
to
do
our
homework
on
this
properly
and
find
out
how
much
real
geological
hazard
is
being
presented.
The
site
has
got
basically
their
plateauing.
A
big
area
of
the
site
and
I
just
showed
that
in
that
bottom
bottom
area,
but
all
this
needs
to
be
looked
at
pretty
carefully
and
thoroughly
to
make
sure
we
really
understand
what
the
impacts
are
going
to
be
onto
our
open
space.
J
So
in
I've
touched
on
some
of
these
in
the
staff
memo,
they
suggested
that
the
city
code
can
protect
mother
earth,
but
I,
don't
think
mother
earth
is
likely
to
agree
with
that.
Open
space
is
required
to
protect
over
the
other
is
required
to
protect
the
open
space
and
the
Silverlake
ditch
from
geological
disturbances.
I'd
really
like
to
get
a
full
one
foot
contour
map
to
show
the
exact
steep
slopes
that
are
existing,
so
I
put
a
lot
of
time
into
studying
this
massive
amount
of
documentation.
That's
been
dribbled
to
us.
J
Give
me
feedback
on
any
questions
that
might
arise
when
you
look
at
them
further.
My
last
point
is
I,
went
to
a
Planning
Board
and
invited
Planning
Board
to
do
a
site
tour.
Now
Tom
came
on
a
site
tour
with
me
and
I
I
thoroughly
enjoyed
doing
it
with
him,
but
the
attorneys
said
that
I
cannot
take
more
than
one
of
you
at
a
time
on
a
site
tour
because
then
it
becomes
a
public
meeting,
but
I
recommend
that
you
take
a
tour
yourself.
J
B
K
Hi
Suzanne
well,
five,
seven
35
Prospect,
Road,
Longmont,
unincorporated,
Boulder,
County
I
actually
have
half
a
dozen
things.
I
want
to
talk
to
you
guys
about.
Some
of
them
are
actually
in
the
matters
from
the
department,
and
one
of
our
two
is
not
so.
The
first
ones
are
having
to
do
with
the
CIP.
I
would
like
for
you
guys
to
accelerate
construction
of
the
trailhead
at
schnell,
the
bottom
of
Chapman
Drive.
This
magnificent
trailhead
plan
was
submitted
and
approved
in
2015.
K
Here
we
are,
it's
2017
I
went
up
there
today
in
the
rain
to
see
because
a
rumor
had
it
that
it
was
open
and
it's
not
it's
a
pile
of
dirt.
So
something
has
started
there,
but
for
us
to
be
able
to
use
it
at
all
need
to
really
build
the
trailhead.
The
way
the
plan
set
forth
so
I
would
hope
you
can
accelerate
that
into
2018.
Cip
possible
second
has
to
do
with
joder
trails.
K
As
you
know,
we've
been
hoping
to
get
those
trails
at
joder
belt
for
25
years
and
I'm,
not
talking
north
sky.
That
one's
also
been
on
books
for
25
years,
but
there
is
no
reason
to
link
the
trail
development
at
Jodha
ranch
to
whatever
happens
with
the
north
sky
trail,
whether
it's
getting
additional
easements
or
whether
it's
worrying
about
additional
parking.
You
could
do
it
now
and
I
would
like
for
you
to
do
that.
K
Do
it
before
the
institutional
knowledge
and
memory
of
the
Jodha
ranch
disappears,
and
there
is
a
risk
of
that
happening.
Acha
has
offered
several
times
to
work
with
staff
to
establish
what
the
existing
trails
are.
There
are
eight
miles
of
trails
on
that
property
right
now,
but
they
are
going
to
melt
away
and
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
them
at
least
be
used
for
the
trail
system
that
was
approved
in
north
tsa,
so
I'd
like
to
urge
you
to
accelerate
that
program
also
into
2018.
K
Third
thing
isn't
on
the
CIP,
but
it
is
about
the
regional
trail
tours
I.
Don't
know
if
you've
seen
the
agenda
that
the
county
has
put
out,
but
there's
a
lot
of
really
interesting
stuff
that
they
are
proposing
to
show
you
in
a
bus
tour
on
May
20th
from
9:00
to
1:00
and
thank
you,
bat
Kuhn
BCH,
a
and
a
bunch
of
other
recreation
groups
submitted
a
lot
of
regional
trail
suggestions
to
you
in
the
North
GSA
process
which
were
shelved.
K
This
would
be
a
good
time
to
bring
some
of
them
up
and
discuss
them.
I
hope
you
guys
will
participate,
I,
hope
staff
will
participate.
I
gather
the
public
is
not
invited,
but,
among
other
things,
there's
the
IBM
connector
trail,
there's
joder
ranch,
there's
a
Rocky
Mountain
Greenway.
There's
the
eastern
terminus
of
the
U
P
rail
line
at
County,
Line
Road.
Those
are
things
that
affect
OS
MP
and
all
the
rest
of
us
and
I
would
urge
you
to
consider
them
seriously
and
get
back
with
us
as
to
what
was
discussed.
K
L
I'm
Raymond
bridge
for
35,
South,
38th,
Street
and
Boulder,
and
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
1600
members,
Boulder
County,
Audubon
Society.
We
want
to
reiterate
that
we
think
you
should
make
two
recommendations
to
City
Council.
One
removal
see
you
south
item
from
the
update
of
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
and
to
recommend
that
City
Council
reopen
the
South
Boulder
Creek
flood
mitigation
plan
in
light
of
the
new
information
that
has
come
to
light
during
complan
public
process.
L
However,
there
are
also
two
OS
bt,
specific
issues
that
you
should
take
up
as
trustees,
one
when
the
flood
mitigation
plan
was
presented
to
you
in
2015.
The
proposal
was
for
an
earthen
berm
on
seedot
property
during
public
works
presentations
in
the
last
few
months
it
has
morphed
into
a
high
hazard,
am
anchored
to
bedrock
as
to
hydrologists,
have
testified
during
the
public
input.
This
would
necessarily
affect
groundwater
movement
and
can
be
expected
d-
water.
Oh
s,
MP
wetlands
under
councils,
acceptance
resolution.
L
Any
changes
that
affect
OS
MP
properties
in
the
flood
mitigation
design
require
that
the
plan
be
brought
back
to
OS
m
p2,
o
s
bt.
You
should
therefore
demand
that
flood
mitigation
plans
come
back
to
you
with
a
presentation
on
these
issues
to
see
used
concept
plan
for
the
Cu
South
property
includes
two
proposed
trailheads
that
would
cross
OS,
MP
wetlands
and
State
Natural
Area
properties
to
connect
with
the
South
Boulder
Creek
Trail.
L
M
Karen
hole
wig
for
for-4,
o
Greenbrier
Boulevard
and
tonight,
I'm
speaking
for
the
Friends
of
Boulder
open-space
about
the
Cu
South
land
use
decisions
that
are
coming
up
as
trustees.
We
hope
you
share
our
deep
concern
for
the
future
health
of
the
South
Boulder
Creek
Natural
Area,
which
is
o
SMP
land
and
I,
have
two
points
to
make
about
that.
M
B
O
Hi
I'm
Lauren,
kill
coin
and
I'm
the
financial
services
supervisor
here
to
talk
about
our
draft
18
to
23
capital,
improvement
program
or
CIP,
and
this
is
the
second
time
that
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
discuss
the
CIP.
We
were
here
last
month
and
we
focused
that
conversation
on
2018
department
priorities,
our
budget
guiding
principles
and
an
update
on
the
citywide
economic
forecast
and
then
after
tonight,
we'll
be
back
next
month
for
a
public
hearing
discussion
and
hopefully
a
recommendation
on
the
CIP
and
from
there
we'll
shift
to
our
operating
budget
in
July
in
August.
O
But
for
the
purposes
of
tonight
we
want
to
again
reiterate
the
citywide
economic
forecast,
talk
about
some
highlights
and
some
refinements
we've
made
as
we've
been
going
through
the
CIP
process
and
then
provide
time
for
any
questions
you
might
have
about
the
projects
being
proposed
and,
as
we
talked
about
last
month's
at
2016
sales
and
use
tax
collections
came
in
as
we
had
projected,
and
we
had
projected
a
slowed
growth
scenario.
The
2018
projections
will
be
provided
to
departments
this
month.
O
We
did
just
get
some
initial
projections
around
sales
and
use
tax
collections,
and
it's
looking
like
about
2.9
percent
growth
in
18,
but
we're
still
waiting
on
a
number
of
other
projections,
including
our
anticipated
FEMA
reimbursement.
Our
general
fund
transfer
things
like
that.
So
we
think
we'll
have
a
better
picture
for
you
next
month
when
we
come
to
talk
about
the
CIP,
but
overall
we're
seeing
mixed
economic
indicators
and
we're
predicting.
There
could
be
some
type
of
economic
softening
at
the
same
time
as
our
two
expiring
sales
tax,
increments
in
2019
and
2020.
O
And
moving
to
highlights
and
refinements,
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
talk
about
tonight
was
our
capital
carryover.
So,
during
the
the
budget
processes
from
2012
to
2014,
we
had
a
number
of
projects
approved
that
we
then
deferred
when
the
flood
happened
and
we
focused
the
last
several
years
on
meeting
our
FEMA
reimbursable
flood
project
deadline
September
of
this
year.
O
So
what
were
what
we're
seeing
moving
forward
in
2018
is
strategically
bringing
those
deferred
projects
back
on
to
our
work
plan,
but
we've
been
carrying
over
the
money
to
fund
those
projects
since
they
were
approved
in
previous
years.
So
the
2018
work
plan
around
capital
projects
really
becomes
a
mix
of
the
new
dollars
we're
requesting
in
this
18
CIP
and
those
capital
dollars
that
we've
been
carrying
over
and,
as
a
result,
our
overall
request
for
2018
CIP
is
1.2
million
dollars
less
than
it
was
for
17.
O
So
it
helps
us
address
our
carryover
and
be
conservative
during
a
time
where
it's
it's
appropriate
to
do
so.
The
other
theme
we've
been
talking
about
is
taking
care
of
what
we
have
shifting
to
stewardship
and
investing
in
stewardship
activities,
and
last
month
we
talked
about
our
facilities
assessment
and
mentioned
that
we
had
some
high-level
results
and
so
I'll
bring
those
up
in
a
few
minutes.
Also
related
to
stewardship,
though,
is
this
concept
of
integrated
plan
implementation.
So
what
you've
seen
in
the
past
in
our
CIP
is
a
is
a
project
per
plan.
O
Basically
there's
a
West
GSA
CIP
project
that
we
funded,
and
that
was
our
tracking
mechanism
to
show
the
progress
we
had
made
towards
implementing
recommendations
of
those
plans.
What
we're
going
to
be
piloting
this
year
is
integrating
all
plans
into
our
work
plan
and
funding
them
through
different
CIP
categories.
So,
for
example,
the
trails
maintenance
CIP
that
you
see
includes
projects
that
were
recommended
by
the
West
GSA.
O
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
long
process
and
you'll
hear
about
it
a
lot
as
we
move
forward,
but
just
to
put
it
in
the
context
of
the
CIP
okay,
so
back
to
that
capital
carryover.
We
did
just
want
to
provide
some
numbers
associated
with
that.
Our
current
capital,
carryover
is
28
million
dollars
and
of
that
28
million
18
is
related
to
acquisitions,
and
that
was
intentional.
O
The
end
of
2014,
we
issued
a
10
million
dollar
bond
and
the
goal
was
to
spend
85%
of
that
10
million
within
three
years
so
by
the
end
of
this
year.
So
over
the
past
three
years,
we've
continued
to
fund
or
acquisition
CIP,
letting
that
accumulate
and
knowing
that
once
we
spent
down
the
bond,
we
would
turn
to
the
acquisition
CIP
for
all
of
our
strategic
acquisitions.
O
The
other
10
million
of
the
28
is
related
to
those
previously
approved
projects
that
were
deferred
to
complete
flood
recovery.
So
you
start
to
see
those
come
back
onto
the
work
plan
and
will
strategically
spend
those
dollars
as
we
align
with
the
plans
and
implement
according
to
our
plans.
And
finally,
these
are
the
high-level
numbers
from
our
facilities.
Assessment
and
I
will
just
say
that
these
are
initial
recommendations.
Staff
are
still
reviewing
the
recommendations
and
they're
subject.
The
numbers
are
subject
to
change
based
on
the
alignment
with
plans,
including
the
master
plan.
O
But
if
you
look
at
the
year
by
year,
it
ranges
anywhere
from
two
hundred
and
eighty
seven
thousand
up
to
four
seven
hundred
and
forty
six
thousand,
but
our
approach
is
to
build
a
consistent
facilities,
maintenance
program
with
gradual
increases
over
time
and
to
manage
it
that
way,
and
that
was
really
all
that
I
had
and
now
we've
got
time
for
any
questions
you
might
have
regarding
the
project
lists
that
you
receive
or
anything
else.
We
just
talked
about.
P
P
P
O
Informed
us
yeah
absolutely,
and
some
of
those
assessments
are
ongoing
right
and
the
trails
assessment,
for
example,
and
something
this
because
we
have
the
numbers.
It
is
that
same
integrate
integrated
implementation
concept,
where
you
see
a
number
like
469
and
that
might
not
match
up
with
what's
in
that
facilities,
maintenance
CIP.
But
that's
because
that
funding
is,
is
spread
across
the
the
funding
for
the
different
work
groups
who
manage
it.
So
you
see
the
agricultural
CIP
is
the
cultural
resource.
The
IPS.
All
of
those
projected
and
proposed
funding
amounts
include
implementation
of
those
items.
O
We
have
four
facilities,
especially
for
the
last
two
years.
We've
been
taking
care
of
immediate
needs,
while
we've
awaited
assessment
results
and-
and
we
think
that
will
continue-
certainly
in
2017
and
partially
into
2018,
as
we
go
through
these
line
by
line
and
make
recommendations
and
prioritize
and
move
forward.
But
as
for
the
other
assessments,
I
think
we
were
doing
the
same
thing
we're
maintaining.
While
we
await
assessment
results
and
we'll
make
adjustments
after
that.
But
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
comments.
I
get.
N
I
would
say
that
we've
done
a
significant
amount
around
the
facilities,
the
the
various
structures,
the
300,
some
odd
structures
across
the
system,
we're
making
good
progress
on
the
trail
condition
assessment.
We
aren't
absolutely
complete
with
that,
but
Lauren
exact
is
exactly
right
that
that
we
have
a
number
of
different
line
items
that
can
cross
over.
For
example,
you
might
have
a
farm
house
that
is
functioning
as
a
agricultural
facility,
but
it
also
has
a
historic
value
to
it,
a
historic
and
cultural
value
to
it.
N
So
you
can
see
we
have
agricultural
facilities
and
cultural
and
resource
facilities,
so
you
might
draw
from
both
of
those
line
items
to
address
a
single
project.
So
we're
that's.
Why
we're
trying
to
really
coordinate
like
let's
do
this
historic
project?
Oh,
let's
do
this
agricultural
project.
Let's
do
this
we're
really
trying
to
coordinate
across
the
different
values
of
the
system
and
use
the
assessment
information
that
we've
received
from
our
consultant
to
identify
our
priority
areas
are:
what
do
we
take
care
of
now
versus?
N
We
could
take
care
of
three
years
from
now
or
five
years
from
now.
We
also
want
to
you
know
you
know,
rather
than
ramp
up
a
million
dollars
this
year
and
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
next
year
and
then
five
hundred
thousand.
We,
we
really
want
to
take
a
sort
of
a
steady
approach
and
you
know
have
a
regular
work
program
that
we're
just
knocking
this
stuff
out
year-over-year
and
that
it'll
become
a
more
steady
program
rather
than
a
being
and
flowing
so
much.
N
But
we
do
have
other
assessments
like
the
trail
assessment
that
we're
still
doing
work
on
and,
as
we
are
doing,
some
of
these
crossover
projects,
like
Lauren,
is
saying
like
we're
doing
some
maintenance
with
West
TSA
implementation.
We're
able
to
take
care
of
those
conditions
if
there's
a
lower
condition
assessment
on
a
particular
trail.
We're
able
to
bring
it
up
to
a
standard.
G
C
Thing
is
we
did.
These
are
just
questions
not
on
the
specifics,
but
just
general
yeah
I,
just
to
clarify,
because
I
think
there
was
some
confusion
at
the
last
meeting
about
whether
certain
numbers
were
just
repeating
that
2017.
But
in
the
first
and
pages
three
I
mean
four
five
and
six
there's
a
column
that
says
proposed.
Q
C
D
N
B
All
right
so
do
we
want
to
start
breaking
head
down
to
capital
plan.
Eaton
okay
wants
to
start
with
that
I
mean.
D
I
guess,
if
I'm
not
I,
don't
have
anything
about
the
first
attachment
ecological
systems,
maintenance
and
restoration,
but
the
second
one
mineral
right.
So
if
no
one
wants
to
jump
on
ecological
system,
I'm
happy
to
go
to
mineral
rights,
okay,
the
only
thing
I
say
is
it-
and
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
before
in
this
forum
that
there's
increasing
concern
about
extractive
industries
in
our
neighborhoods
in
our
region,
and
we've
set
aside
very
little
funding
for
the
acquisition
of
mineral
rights.
D
The
same
thing
is
true
for
water
rights,
which
I
can
also
see
as
being
something
that
might
be
valuable
and
actually,
which
suggests
you
combine
these
two
with
land
acquisitions,
and
so
you
have
a
more
flexible
budget.
I
think
that
spending
a
million
dollars
to
prevent
oil
and
gas
extraction
next
to
valuable
or
next
to
valuable,
open
space.
D
Even
if
we
don't
own
the
open
space
might
be
incredibly
helpful
to
neighbors,
to
wildlife
and
to
prevent
long-term
ecological
damage,
and
with
this
I,
don't
think
you
have
the
ability
really
to
do
that
with
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
I
just
said
you
guys
some
more
flexibility,
maybe
combine
those
three
if
you
can
or
or
make
some
sort
of
stipulation
between
those
three
that
these
funds
can
be
funneled
to
one
way
or
the
other,
because
they're
all
about
owning
parts
of
open
space
that
improve
things
yeah.
O
Thank
you
that
has
been
an
internal
conversation
and
part
of
a
revised
internal
practice
where
we've
allowed
the
acquisition
CIP
to
support
water
and
mineral
rights,
where
NASA
very
if
the
cost
was
greater
than
what
we
had
in
that
available.
Cip
we
haven't
done
the
reverse.
We
haven't
used
mineral
or
water
rights
to
then
support
a
land
acquisition,
but
we
have
said
that
acquisition
can
support
the
other
two
okay.
A
P
B
Okay,
I
had
one
question:
just
a
clarifying
question
about
I'm,
assuming
that
we're
joining
together
for
regional
trails,
we're
putting
regional
trails
with
the
major
trail
maintenance,
and
so
that
total
would
be.
240,000
is
a
corrector
that
kind
of
the
best
way
of
looking
at
that
yeah.
O
It's
it's
the
same
practice
that
Traci
was
describing
where
if
a
situation
came
up,
we
could
pull
from
multiple
CIP
projects,
and
this
was
meant.
The
regional
trail.
Development
has
been
listed
as
a
department
priority
for
a
number
of
years,
but
we've
never
really
formalized
our
investment
in
that
and
we've
got
an
ongoing
feasibility
study
for
the
elder
Walker
and
some
Rocky
Mountain
green
work
greenways
work
going
on,
and
this
seemed
like
the
right
time
to
formalize
that
and
in
list
distinct
funding.
C
A
few
couple
questions
in
a
comment
just
to
make
sure
I
understand
on
the
real
estate
acquisition
dollars.
The
estimated
total
for
the
next
five
years
is
nineteen
five,
but
or
to
think
about
this
more
completely.
It's
really
the
nineteen
five
plus
another
eighteen
million.
Okay.
C
C
O
C
O
There
is
a
potential
for
future
bonding
when
we,
when
that
was
approved,
it
was
the
ability
to
bond
up
to
33
million
and
we
issued
10
of
that
so
you're
correct
in
your
assessment
of
what's
available
in
the
acquisition
CIP.
There
is
also
this
potential
for
future
bonding
depending
on
what
happens
over
time.
Yeah
I.
D
P
C
C
The
obvious
one
is
to
make
sure
we're
fully
tapping
into
their
knowledge,
and
you
know
engaging
in
best
practices
here
and
the
other,
perhaps
less
honorably,
but
no
less
important
in
a
sense
is,
you
know,
I
think
we
be
honest
about
the
fact
that
if
the
decision
ultimately
is
made
to
build
from
scratch
a
new
facility
somewhere
it
you
know
and
it's
the
kind
of
dollars
we're
talking
about.
Inevitably,
you
know
some
questions.
You
know
good
hard
questions
will
get
asked
about.
C
How
thoroughly
was
this
vetted
by
people
who
won't
be
occupying
that
space
and
you
know,
have
a
somewhat
independent
interest
and
I
think
it's
great
from
sort
of
early
in
the
process
and
then
throughout
make
sure
we're
doing
a
good
job
consulting
with
those
people
and
that
you
know
this
is
fully
consistent
with
you
know:
sort
of
city
policies
and
just
sort
of
cities
stand
of
what
kind
of
space
to
people
you
know
expect
to
get,
and
this
is
not.
You
know,
we're
thoroughly
protecting
ourselves
against
the
accusation
that
something's
been
gold-plated.
C
Obviously,
that's
just
a
process
suggestion
we're
nowhere
close
to
talking
about
you
know
kind
of
specifics
of
the.
What
where
and
when
another
sort
of
this
is
just
a
request
on
trail
maintenance,
one
of
the
hard
things
for
me
at
least,
and
I
suspect
for
others-
is
to
really
track
what
the
total
maintenance
effort
is
because
it's
in
different
buckets,
there's
capital,
there's
ongoing,
there's
and
that's
separate
from
to
me
separate
from
building
new
trails
that
that's
a
that's
its
own
issue,
but
in
terms
of
just
taking
care
of
what
we
have.
C
It
would
be
great
at
some
future
media
to
have
to
me
a
more
complete
presentation
on
dollars
and
headcount,
so
not
putting
it
into
little
buckets,
but
just
saying
holistically
over
the
last
few
years
and
maybe
looking
forward
or
something
you
know
how
much
have
we
expanded
and
kind
of
where
are
we,
because
it
is
hard
for
us
to
kind
of
really
get
our
arms
around
that
because
of
the
different
buckets
those
anyhow.
Those
are
my
three
comments.
Questions
and
suggestions,
Jenny.
B
Q
Yeah
I'm
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
questions
about
the
OS
MP
master
plan
update
CIP
item.
Could
you
explain
to
me
a
basically
hum
how
we've
done
expenditures
up
to
this
point?
Cuz
I'm,
looking
at
like
a
hundred
thousand
in
2018
and
2019
and
I,
feel
like
this
public
process
is
long
or
this
process
is
only
really
getting
rolling
and
I'm
like
that.
Doesn't
really
seem
like
a
lot
of
money
for
what
I
expect
to
be
a
pretty
robust
public
process.
S
No
I
think
M
in
Lauren
can
explain
slightly
better
than
I.
Do
basically
we'll
put
the
dollar
amounts
in
to
capture
them
over
the
years.
So
by
the
end
of
2019,
we
basically
have
spent
the
amount
of
money
that
was
lying
on
the
master
plan
and
we're
probably
estimating
the
total
cost
of
the
master
plan
would
be
around
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
by
putting
the
item
line
item
in
each
year,
that
gets
us
to
the
end
result
in
nineteen,
where
it
all
balances
out
and.
O
N
N
Q
N
B
Okay,
I
had
a
question
about
the
farm
site,
improvement
and
I
guess
I'm
assuming,
but
hopefully
that's
the
right
assumptions
that
in
farm
site
of
improvements
that
might
care
be
in
another
part
like
you
know
it
might
be
an
older
farm
that
would
be
a
cultural
facilities
or
whatever
and
part
of
that
could.
But
what
properties
have
we
identified?
Those
are
they
driven
by
them
and
worry
they're.
B
A
D
Mean
I
guess
the
only
thing
I
could
add
to
this
is
when,
when
director
Stewart
was
here,
I
remember
are
not
steward
of
chizel
I'm
Patton
I'm
mixing
up
my
open
space
boards.
When
Patton
was
here,
we
had
a
discussion
during
a
CIP
process
when
there
were
a
lot
of
major
trail
projects
coming
up
and
he
was
like
yeah.
What
do
you
want
and
I
said?
D
Can
we
increase
trail
staff
by
20%
and
he
said
we
could
do
that,
let's
find
out
if
we
could
and
then
they
did,
and
it
seems
like
there's
as
you're
looking
into
the
future,
there's
more
and
more
needs
now
that
you're
elevating
a
lot
of
trail
stuff
to
capital
improvement
that
it
might
actually
start
to
make
sense
and,
however,
that
integrates
into
the
rest
of
our
budgeting,
it
seems
like
we
have
just
more
and
more
to
deal
with,
not
less
and
less
so
that
would
be
my
only
thought
about
all
of
this
stuff.
Yeah.
O
P
A
question
just
on
the
campus
relocation:
again,
we
haven't
talked
a
lot
about
this
and
I.
Don't
want
you
to
do
a
big
now,
but
is
it
pretty
clear
to
you
at
this
point
that
some
sort
of
interim
move
is
going
to
have
to
happen?
Okay,
that
can
you
say
just
a
little
bit
about
why
I
mean?
Obviously,
if
you
get
a
void
moving
twice
you'd,
do
it
and
you've
decided
that's
not
possible,
so.
T
The
central
services
manager
for
OS
MP
in
the
project
manager
for
the
campus
relocation.
So
what
we've
been
doing
for
the
last
couple
years?
Actually,
since
2015,
is
addressing
our
space
shortage
in
the
existing
campuses
that
we
have
and
really
have
identified
a
couple
health
and
safety
things
things
that
could
be
better
for
efficiency
in
our
operations,
as
well
as
collaboration
across
the
department
and
kind
of
getting
into
our
system
and
based
on
that
assessment,
we
realized
that
we
really
need
to
address
the
current
space
shortage.
T
So,
yes,
we
would
avoid
moving
twice
if
we
could,
unfortunately,
there's
not
something
readily
available
that
meets
our
needs
as
far
as
footprint
related
to
office,
space,
material
storage,
fleet,
storage
and
all
of
that,
so
I
was
going
to
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
identify
exactly
what
that
fit
is
and
where
that
facility
might
be.
If
we
have
to
acquire
land
if
we
have
the
land,
if
we
build,
if
we
redevelop
what's
existing,
so
that's
a
little
bit
more
extensive.
So
what
we're
realizing
as
we've
been
actually
adding
staff
in
the
past
several
years.
T
T
So
we've
been
working
with
a
lot
of
outside
consultants,
not
a
lot,
but
just
a
design
group
to
help
us
with
fit
test
office,
design
to
again
verify
and
validate
what
the
city
process
and
standards
are
related
to
space,
and
then
we've
also
been
working
with
a
commercial
broker
to
help
us
identify
a
lease
space
and
understand
the
total
cost
of
occupancy.
That's
not
something
that
typically,
the
city
has
in-house
and
its
expertise.
So
we're
really
getting
a
good
understanding
of
what
the
best
in
solution
will
be
for
this
staff.
That's
going
to
move
again.
B
Q
B
Q
P
F
N
R
Yes,
okay!
Yes,
thanks
to
Suzanne!
Well,
she
gave
the
prompt
that
the
county
has
invited
us
as
well
as
other
open
space
agencies
within
the
county,
to
join
on
a
regional
trail
tour
which
is
coming
up
in
a
couple
weeks
on
the
20th.
So
one
of
things
the
county
has
they
reached
out
for
feedback
about
the
thought
of
having
a
full
day
tour
and
the
feedback
they
received
is
that's
probably
longer
than
what
most
of
the
participants
were
able
to
provide.
R
So
they
were
shortened
down
the
tour
to
be
a
half-day
tour,
it'll
be
from
9:00
to
1:00,
and
it
will
cover
pretty
much
some
of
the
new
and
recent
projects
and
some
of
the
upcoming
projects
on
the
eastern
part
of
the
county.
So
it's
a
good
chance
to
look
at
the
work,
talk
with
other
agencies
about
the
projects
and
what
the
desires
are
out
there,
and
certainly
to
recognize
how
the
county
can
contribute
to
the
different
agencies
and
the
efforts
underway.
For
us,
that
certainly
means
anything.
R
That's
including
our
plans,
the
North
TSA,
the
visitor
master
plan,
some
of
the
work
we
did
it.
Looking
at
the
Boulder
Valley
cop
plan
in
those
regional
connections,
all
irrelevant
is
part
of
this
connection.
I
know
Kevin
was
available
to
go
on
that,
so
it
would
be
great
to
have
the
representation
of
the
board.
If
there's
other
interest,
we
probably
ought
to
let
the
county
know
soon.
So
please
touch
base
with
me,
so
we
can
get
that
out
and
the
county
should
be
getting
back
to
us.
R
P
G
R
R
Thank
you,
okay,
so
if
there
are
any
other
questions,
feel
free
to
get
in
touch
with
me,
I'll
be
joining
you
on
that
day
and
we'll
see
how
the
day
turns
out.
I
think
it'll
be
very
interesting.
It's
really
an
opportunity
for
us
to
appreciate
the
work
that
the
county
is
doing
to
help
us
forward
a
lot
of
our
regional
connections.
Thanks
thanks.
B
G
so
we'll
move
on
to
matters
from
the
board.
Did
we
have
any
board
related
matters
at
the
Curt?
You
had
the
letter
that
you
and
Kevin
thanks
for
doing
that,
work
looks
like
really
hard
work
here.
Great
letter.
P
B
P
There
were
a
number
of
issues
and
concerns
that
the
public
raised
in
front
of
us
over
multiple
meetings
and
also
in
various
town
hall
meetings
and
open
houses
that
had
to
do
with
open
space
and
some
of
them
related
also
to
the
one
of
the
other
proximal
purposes
of
this
land
reclassification,
which
was
to
provide
for
the
flood
mitigation
on
South
Boulder
Creek.
The
option
D
that's
being
proposed
right
now,
and
there
were
questions
about
whether
that
option
had
changed
significantly.
P
So
why
don't
you
and
Kevin
write
a
letter
that
we
could
consider
writing
to
I
think
both
Planning
Board
and
council
just
describing
some
of
these
concerns
that
the
public
has
brought
to
us
about
process,
but
then
also
potential
impacts
on
open
space
that
we
think
should
be
addressed
so
that
that
letter
we
drafted
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
and
I
understand
there
are
copies
of
it.
It
was
not
included
in
the
package,
but
there
are
copies.
Is
that
right?
Okay,
so
people
can
look
at
it
Kevin?
D
That
you,
you
pretty
much
hit
the
nail
on
the
head,
I
mean
I,
think
it
is
just
hard
with
as
many
things
as
we've
heard
from
the
public
and
the
discussions
that
we've
had
to
pass
on
a
motion
like
we
did
last
month.
It
was
actually
saying
we
encourage
you
to
work
with
the
open
space
staff
and
to
find
the
best
way
to
deal
with
open
space
in
an
environmentally
friendly
way.
That
really
didn't
reflect.
I.
D
Think
that
the
breadth
and
depth
of
comments
that
the
people
in
the
public
and
the
concerns
that
we
on
the
board
had
so
I
think
we
sort
of
put
that
all
in
here
as
best
as
we
could
in
a
form
that
is
still
pretty
digestible
that
hopefully,
if
planning
border
council
sees
this
the
the
they
won't
necessarily
change
their
views,
but
it
might
give
them
a
better
sense
of
the
grounding
for
it
and
what
why
we
had
concerns,
and-
and
hopefully
because
this
is
not
strictly
up
to
us.
This
is
a
multi.
D
B
Didn't
anybody
CAF
comment,
sir
looks
like
you
might
have:
oh
I
guess.
C
I
wanted
to
first
ask
staff
what
the
status
is
of
the
request
that
was
made
at
the
last
meeting.
C
You
know
the
the
motion
just
for
context.
The
motion
that
we
had
passed
a
couple
of
years
ago,
supporting
option
D
said
essentially,
if
it's
determined
that
they'll
be
non-trivial,
impact
staff
will
come
back
to
us
and
that
the
request
was
made
at
the
last
meeting.
You
know
sort
of
take
a
look
at
that
issue.
U
Hi
John
Potter
resource
and
stewardship
manager,
Tom
Curt
and
I
actually
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
utilities
staff
two
weeks
ago
now
and
we
were
briefed
on
their
plans
for
the
design
moving
forward
and
they
indicated
not
only
would
as
the
designs
the
design
process
proceeded.
Not
only
would
they
be
having
full
public
involvement
around
all
that,
but
they
would
also
make
a
point
of
coming
back
to
our
board
to
keep
us
updated
on
how
that
proceeds
and.
P
If
I
could
I
would
add
that
they've
become
much
more
acutely
aware
of
the
issue
about
foundation
design
and
what
it
means
to
the
groundwater
and
what
that
means
to
the
habitat
in
the
area
and
everything
else,
and
even
though
they
have
not
let
a
contract
for
preliminary
design,
work
on
option,
D,
they're
already
thinking
about
those
things
and
I
suspect
they're
having
some
discussions
with
with
staff
and
maybe
outside
experts
about
how
you
might
mitigate
that
sort
of
thing.
So
we're
not
writing
this,
because
we
think
they're
not
going
to
address
the
issue.
P
I
think
it's
just
to
acknowledge.
There
was
a
sequence
here
and
there
was
a
change
in
the
design
and
actually
what
happened
is
there
was
I
think
an
expansion
of
the
scope
of
the
berm.
It
was
called
a
berm
and
it
was
presented
to
you
folks
at
that
point,
and
you
know
now,
people
recognize
this
thing
is
going
to
be
much
more
serious,
engineered
structure
and
so
I
think
it's
appropriate
just
to
acknowledge
that
and
acknowledge
the
the
issues
that
might
raise
and
ask
them
to
address
it.
It's
a
formal.
N
Matter
and
I
think
just
a
little
bit
more
in
response
to
Tom's
question
I
think
they'd
intend
to
come
back
multiple
times
yeah
during
the
design
process
to
the
open
space
board
of
trustees.
We
made
the
request
and
they
said
not
only
would
they
be
happy
to
come
back
one
still.
They
intend
to
come
back
multiple
times
and
they
also
continued
to
update
the
utilities
website
and
I.
Think
just
recently,
they've
included
images
on
the
website,
not
just
text
information,
but
images
of
what
the
dam
would
look
like
or
a.
U
Sorry,
the
design
is
there,
there
really
is
no
design.
There
is
a
concept
there.
The
process
that
they
describe
to
us
was
quite
extensive,
involving
significant
monitoring
of
groundwater,
really
that
they
have
not
engaged
in
and
very
much
at
all
to
this
point
in
terms
of
what
the
ultimate
final
design
might
look
like
so
I.
C
Was
gonna
say
based
on
that?
You
know,
I
have
a
concern
in
general
about
how
much
of
this
is
really
our
role
and
how
much
is
really
for
the
water
board.
That's
really
in
charge
of
this
project
at
a
board
level,
but
and
I'm
still
kind
of
undecided
about
that
question,
but
I
think
in
the
bullet.
It's
about
two-thirds
of
the
way
down
under
the
section
based
on
these
concerns.
The
second
bullet
there's
a
fairly
extensive
discussion
that
includes
the
statement.
A
D
I
mean
I
think
clearly
the
idea
what
for
me
and
Curt
riding
this
was
to
because
we
can't
all
right
it.
Otherwise
we
have
an
online
meeting.
So
obviously
we
should
totally
you
know,
kick
this
around
and
make
sure
everyone's
comfortable
with
what
our
language
isn't.
There
I
can
say
I'm
the
person
who
put
that
in
our
ads.
A
D
And
my
reasoning
behind
this
is
not
to
sort
of
reach
around
staff
and
like
try
and
give
some
sort
of
you
know,
hey
everybody
else,
heads
up
as
much
as
it
is
that
I
feel
is.
This
is
a
multi-agency
effort.
This
is
planning
its
water,
it's
City,
Council
and
I.
Think
our
role
is
to
talk
about
open
space
and
I
actually
perceive
this
as
a
possible
violation
of
open
space
charter,
and
no
one
else
is
going
to
even
know
that
we
have
an
open
space
charter.
D
Part
that
says
something
about
flood
control,
so
I
think
that
something
about
that
is
probably
the
key
thing.
I
want
to
pass
on
to
other
people
as
to
say
we
have
a
concern.
We
need
you
to
ameliorate
that
concern
for
us
in
your
discussions
with
your
boards
or
whatever,
because
what
happens
with
respect
to
the
sperm
dam,
whatever
on
CDOT
property
that
doesn't
affect
open
space
is
actually
not
our
jurisdiction.
D
But
what
happens
with
this?
That
causes
a
change
to
the
hydrology
or
the
ecosystem
is
sort
of
our
jurisdiction
and
we
haven't
received
enough
yet
to
really
have
our
concerns
ameliorated.
That's
all
I'm!
Trying
to
say
here
and
the
reason
why
I
put
this
part
of
the
Charter
and
was
to
say
why
I
think
we
have
a
very
legitimate
reason
to
have
concern,
because
without
this
we
can
just
say:
well,
we
like
open
space,
but
now
we
can
say
it's
actually
could
be
in
conflict
for
us.
So
please
help
us
not
have
it
being
conflict.
D
C
P
That
first
and
then
we
can,
you
could
just
say
we
have
concerns
that
this
design
may
and
jump
over
all
the
who
who's
saying
that
and
just
say
we
have
concerns
that
the
since
design
may
have
significant
effect
on
groundwater
levels.
Yeah.
C
P
P
Think
it
would
be
good,
Doug
take
a
shot
at
it,
so
it's
in
the
second
full
paragraph
that
appears
on
the
screen.
Yeah.
There
you
go
instead
of
saying
there
is
concern
by
staff
in
hydrology
oliver's.
That
would
just
say
we
have
a
concern
that
this
design
so.
Q
P
Did
you
sound
like
you
were
starting
with
saying
we're
concerned
that
this
may
be
in
conflict
with
no.
Q
Q
C
P
D
Say
damage
to
existing
critical
habitat,
eccentric
cetera
would
be
in
conflict
with
the
open
space
charter
and
we're
interested
in
maintaining
that
charter.
With
that
sort
of
yeah
that
doesn't
say
necessary,
there
would
be
damage,
but
it
says
if
there
is
damage
we
that
appears
to
be
in
conflict
with
this
part
of
the
Charter.
So.
D
C
C
P
P
C
M
Q
P
P
B
B
Q
B
B
B
Okay,
so
for
one
minute
off
the
agenda,
Wow
forget
it
alright.
So
the
next
item
up
is
the
considering
a
motion
looking
at
the
approval,
bagra
cultural
resources
management
plan,
no.
N
Casey
French
is
going
to
do
the
presentation
for
the
AG
plan
and
I,
just
as
Casey's
coming
up.
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
Casey
and
a
pretty
diverse
team
across
the
entire
department
that
they've
been
working
on
this
longer
than
I've,
been
at
open
space
and
mountain
parks.
So
they've
had
demonstrated
quite
a
bit
of
care
at
working
with
the
Board
of
Trustees
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
multiple
members
and
appreciate
board
members
really
engaging
they've
demonstrated
a
lot
of
carrot.
V
V
V
So
the
agricultural
management
chapters
really
at
the
heart,
especially
for
our
early
C's,
for
this
plan,
and
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
several
months,
really
focusing
in
here
on
leasing
agricultural
lands,
the
diversity
of
agricultural
operations
and
local
foods
and
how
we
can
support
our
farmers
and
ranchers
by
connecting
them
to
resources
and
providing
infrastructure.
Both
structural
and
water
related.
V
Lie
so
we
worked
with
our
leases
to
set
the
foundation
for
a
process
for
leasing
our
agricultural
lands
and,
first
and
foremost,
the
sets
the
foundation
to
provide
viable
opportunities
for
farming
and
ranching
bring
equity
among
early
sees
where
our
leases
are
paying
similar
amounts
for
similar
types
of
land,
and
also
with
regional
equity,
establishing
a
range
of
rates
consistent
with
the
range
rates
charged
by
others
for
comparable
land
types
and
also
VIPRE
for
providing
stewardship
relating
to
OS
mp's.
Multiple
objectives.
V
For
the
ecological
integration
in
chapter,
many
of
the
objectives
and
strategies
were
actually
taken
from
the
grass
land
plan,
and
so
they
didn't
what
this
plan
did
was
really
focused
on
the
integration
between
that
plan
and
our
agricultural
operations.
There
are
a
couple:
exceptions:
the
native
plant,
propagation,
pollinator
habitat
and
grazing
and
native
grasslands.
Those
are
all
unique
to
this
plan
in
this
plan
sets
the
objectives
and
the
strategies
for
those
just
a
highlight
one
for
pollinator
habitat.
V
So,
as
tracy
alluded
to,
we
have
had
fair
amount
of
involvement
opportunities.
We've
had
a
three
community
open
houses
along
with
three
comment
periods.
We
did
one
questionnaire
we
had
around
250
respondents,
we've
held
for
additional
lessee
meetings
for
the
OSB
teve,
had
three
study
sessions,
two
updates
almond
and
tonight's
agenda
item.
We've
had
around
180
written
comments,
the
plan.
V
V
V
We
mentioned
in
a
letter
to
them
that
we'll
probably
start
that
in
the
fall
winter
of
this
year
for
the
diversified
vegetable
farming
and
pastured
livestock,
we
know
farms.
We
know
that
there's
community
interest
and
that
we
can
make
progress
without
affecting
existing
lessee.
So,
looking
at
areas
where
we
can
make
progress,
there
and
succession
planning
we
heard
is
really
important.
V
The
pilots
and
the
branded
local
beef
are
likely
examples
of
things
that
will
take
a
phase-in,
sequential
approach
and
with
that,
as
we
move
on
towards
implementation,
a
if
we
first
need
to
have
the
approved
plan
and
so
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
reason
for
tonight's
meeting,
which
is
a
consideration
of
emotion.
N
Q
We'll
go
ahead,
yeah,
okay,
so
this
is
such
a
beautiful
plan,
so
we'll
format
it
so
informative
that
I'm,
almost
at
I,
came
to
process,
but
luckily
I
get
a
master
planning
process.
Q
So
one
thing
in
looking
through
this
and
orienting
myself,
the
the
one
major
question
I
had
was
okay,
so
assuming
we
adopt
a
plan
what's
next
now
so
there,
of
course,
there's
implementation
and
there's
Appendix
II
is
amazing.
This
table
of
objectives
and
how
we're
gonna
manage
I'm.
Sorry
assess
success
towards
meeting
the
goals,
but
I'm
curious
about,
like
the
one
thing
I
was
looking
for
this
document
and
didn't
see
was
when
will
it
be
revised
and
when
how
do
we
get
community
input
for
mid
plan
check-ins
or
things
like
that?
S
It
is
interesting
we've
them.
We've
got
like
system-wide
plans.
Like
the
grassland
plan,
the
AG
planned
visit,
a
master
plan
uh-huh.
The
upcoming
master
plan
for
the
department
is
the
first
one
we've
done,
and
there
is
basically
a
remake
to
update
those
every
six
years.
As
part
of
that
master
planning
effort,
we
want
to
tie
together
things
like
TSA
grassland
and
sort
of
explain
how
will
update
the
plans
as
a
whole
across
the
system
and
individually
in
geographic
areas.
So
the
master
plan
will
provide
the
guidelines
for
that
as
we
go
into
the
future.
God.
R
D
Gonna
mirror
Andreea
statement
that
this
is
really
great
looking
through
it.
It
seems
like
you've
really
hit
like
every
different
focus
that
should
have
been
hit.
I
had
in
some
ways
a
similar
question.
What
she
asked
about,
when
do
we
revisit
this
I
think
that
one
of
the
best
things
that
you
did
in
this
whole
thing
was
establish
measures
of
success.
V
Sure
one
of
the
reasons
we
chose
some
of
the
measures
of
success
where
they
were
easily
reported
out,
and
they
were
things
that
we
could
already.
We
already
knew
and
had
the
baseline
for
so
they
were
chosen
strategically
with
that
in
mind
and
then
I
think
that
we
can
come
back
and
establish
if
there
certain
areas
that
you
want
us
to
report
on
whether
it's
annually
or
whether
there's
certain
topics.
You
would
like
us
to
bring
back
on,
to
give
updates
to
the
board
on
yeah.
S
And
if
I
could
just
expand
on
that
sure
it
is
let
em
I
mean
this
is
policy
strategic
guidance.
We
now
don't
put
this
on
a
shelf.
We
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
get
on,
as
you
discussed
earlier
in
the
CIP,
the
operationalizing
this
plan
and
that
will
be
part
of
what
you'll
see
reflected
in
future
CI
Spees
house.
This
is
laid
out
over
the
next
six
years
and
how
we
prioritize
it
on
the
ground
and
that's
when
you'll
start
to
see
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road.
S
And
then
you
look
at
the
measures
of
success
and
tell
us
in
six
years,
did
we
meet
the
goal
from
this
plan?
We
did
in
2017,
and
so
that
is
the
way
we
can
sort
of
lay
it
out
for
you,
and
you
can
see
it
in
detail
each
year
through
the
work
planning.
In
this
case
he
pointed
out
items
that
come
back
like
pilots,
etc
that
we
want
to
share
with
you
and
get
input
we'll
bring
along
as
needed.
S
D
D
We
have
this
many
acres
or
whatever,
because
wouldn't
you
establish
that
then
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
have
a
good
measuring,
stick
and
and
I
think
that's,
probably
the
single
best
like
way
you
can
ground
all
of
this
is
to
say
in
2017
man,
pollinators
were
just
in
trouble
now
we're
doing
great
anyway.
That
was
my
clarifying
question
and.
N
I
would
just
add
that
there's
a
broader
metrics
approach
to
the
department
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
and
Andrea
can
relate
to
this,
like
the
report
on
progress,
that
there
are
categories
of
metrics
that
are
meaningful
to
the
community,
not
just
the
wonky
types
like
us
over
here
at
the
desk,
but
that
can
really
speak
to
the
community.
So
I
think,
especially
with
the
master
plan.
If
we
could
get
some
high
level
metrics
across
our
different
systems.
N
B
I
had
a
question
but
do
weave
under
well
I'll
just
go
for
it,
I
guess
so.
I'm.
Looking
at
the
funding
and
this
there's
pretty
big
gap,
Amanda
mentioned
that
we'd
be
applying
for
grants.
Can
you
speak
to
that
a
little
bit,
what
type
of
things
we'd
be
looking
for
and
how
quickly
that
would
be
available?
I'm.
V
W
I'm
Andy
Pelzer,
the
egg
stewardship
supervisor.
There
are
some
granting
programs
to
USDA
the
meat
marketing
cooperative.
We
did
a
grant
for
that.
That
was
an
example
of
something
we
pursue
in
the
future.
As
and
Lauren
kill
coin
presented
the
CIP.
Some
of
the
initiatives
in
here
are
actually
in
some
of
CIPA
categories,
so
at
an
operational
level
we
will
be
are
able
to
do
some
of
this,
and
certainly
some
of
it
is
aspirational.
As
we
pursue
granting
opportunities,
we
might
see
some
partnering
of
Boulder
County
parks
and
open
space
they're
undertaking
some
research
initiatives.
W
W
B
Thank
you
did.
P
B
So
are
we
ready
I
think
we
have
one?
Okay,
let's
help.
X
X
All
right,
okay-
and
it's
like
a
three-minute
thing.
Yes,
okay,
I
really
haven't
prepared
anything.
I'm,
ELQ,
Cushman
I
live
at
one
three,
four
five
own
or
75th
Street
Longmont
Colorado
and,
as
we've
been
going
through
this
process
now
wells
I
jumped
on
kind
of
about
the
same
time.
The
eggplant
kind
of
the
sum
of
the
first
edits
jumped
on
probably
three
and
a
half.
Four
years
ago,
I.
X
X
What
was
going
on
in
1858
to
make
these
families
go
come
here,
and
those
families
had
a
choice
if
it's
in
their
sons
here
to
expand
the
West
or
they
could
fight
it
out
on
their
fields.
In
the
Civil
War
and
Abel
Cushman
and
Alf
came
here.
They
were
17
and
19,
and
so
many
of
these
other
families
they
just
sent
their
boys.
Here
too,
there
was
promise
they
could
stake
a
claim
and
if
that's
not
a
stake,
holder
I,
don't
know
of
one
who's
going
to
be.
X
They
were
charged
to
appropriate
water
rights,
establish
sustainable
farmsteads,
build
schools,
build
communities
and
then
qualify
for
statehood.
They
made
a
life
here
before
it
was
Colorado
and
they
were
entrusted
by
their
families
and
by
Abraham
Lincoln's.
X
X
Seen
so
much
trust
on
their
side,
their
motto
was
trust,
engineer
and
cherish,
and
that
has
gotten
them
through
seven
generations
of
staining
life
into
the
next
one
and
the
ultimate
leap
of
faith.
That
I
saw
these
families
or
I
didn't
see
him.
I
didn't
know
him,
but
that
I
know
they
took
was
to
convert
these
lands
to
open
space,
and
if
it
wasn't
so
much
of
what
we
have
is
open
spaces
do
to
these
families.
X
Trust
that
it
would
remain
as
it
was
and
I
don't
know
where
their
timeline
started
in
that
process,
but
I'm
pretty
sure
that
in
their
minds
it
was
when
they
started
and
all
I
have
to
ask
it
up
kind
of
real.
Anyway,
we
working
with
the
staff,
we
have
once
again
begin
to
take
those
leans
forward
and
Trust
and
leaps
of
faith,
and
in
return
we
just
ask
that
your
trust
be
put
in
them
because
they
know
the
requirements
of
this
land
and
what
is
needed
to
perpetuate
life
into
that
option.
X
X
D
So
I
guess
I
could
go
no.
What
else?
Oh
yeah
again
I
just
want
to
say
how
much
I
really
think
the
measures
of
success
is
just
such
a
great
tool
to
have
in
this
there's
one
in
particular
that
I
think
might
be
missing.
Something
important,
which
is
your
prairie
dog,
there's
nothing
in
there
about
maintaining
a
sustainable
prairie
dog
population
or
maintaining
the
necessary
genetic
diversity
across
our
fragmented
prairie
dog
habitats,
with
the
rest
of
the
sort
of
like
pollinator
habitat
and
other
things.
D
D
You
do
a
great
job
of
discussing
what
the
desired
condition
or
desired
outcome
is
say:
pollinator
habitat,
desired
condition,
increased
number
and
diversity
and
other
ones
you
you
don't
say
specifically
what
you're
interested
in
doing
say:
pebbles
jumping
mouse,
it
just
says
extent
of
high-quality
Purple's
habitat
along
digits
and
creeks.
In
occupied
areas
of
the
system,
it
doesn't
say,
increase
the
extent
of
or
maintain
the
extent
of
or
increase
the
quality
within
the
same
extent.
Something
like
that.
D
So
I
just
saying
maybe
puttin
active
verbs
in
there
to
say
what
you
intend
to
have
as
the
outcome
so
that
when
we
look
at
this,
it
can
be
measured.
And
most
of
these
do
a
great
job
of
at
least
alluding
to
what
the
outcome
that's
positive
is
but
with
prairie
dogs.
Although
I
think
from
the
agricultural
standpoint,
you've
done
a
great
job
of
explaining
exactly
what
it
is.
That's
valuable
in
terms
of
control
of
prairie
dogs
for
our
agricultural
purposes.
D
N
N
There
might
be
other
things
that
come
forward
from
that
and
there
might
be
a
phase
2
of
that
prairie
dog
working
group,
or
it
appears
there
will
be
a
phase
2,
maybe
maybe,
but
anyway
there
isn't
a
parallel
process
here
that
we
didn't
want
to
slow
down
the
agricultural
resources
management
plan
and
again
we
recognize
that
other
processes
occurring
within
this
plan.
I
think.
D
My
only
concern
with
that
would
be
just
that
you'll
end
up
with
an
agricultural
plan
that
talks
about
prairie,
dog
control
and
then
a
separate
plan
that
might
say
something
different
and
if
this
doesn't
even
allude
to
maintaining
a
population.
You'll
have
members
of
the
public
saying,
but
in
this
plan
you
talk
about
control
and
another
one
saying
in
this
plan.
You
talk
about
preservation,
so
you
know
just
because
that
seems
to
be
what
we
end
up
hearing
all
the
time
in
here
is.
But
in
this
thing
you
say
this
other
stuff.
P
I
think
that
group
has
made
a
lot
of
progress
and
I
applaud
all
the
people
that
have
been
working
on
that
it.
It's
been
an
interesting
and
challenging
process,
but
I
will
say
the
amount
of
learning
that's
gone
on
by
all.
The
members
of
the
group
is
just
astonishing,
so
kudos
to
the
folks
that
design
that
and
the
only
thing
else
I'll
say-
are
just
sort
of
general
praise
for
this.
P
I
think
it
is
a
great
example
of
integration
across
resources
which
we
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
do
yet,
and
it's
wonderful
to
see
what
something
can
look
like
when
it
addresses
everything.
I.
Think.
Looking
at
the
public
comments
and
the
survey
also
looking
at
the
public
comments
on
the
plan,
I
feel
heartened,
because
this
is
an
opportunity
where
the
public
could
have
said
agriculture
is
destroying
open
space
and
I
didn't
see
anything
like
that.
I
also,
you
know.
P
Setting
aside
the
the
challenging
issue
of
prairie
dogs,
which
we
all
are
heavily
focused
on
I,
also
didn't
see
a
lot
of
people
saying:
well,
you
guys
are
spending
so
much
effort
and
there's
so
many
constraints
from
environmental
management
that
you
just
can't
do.
Agriculture
here,
I
see
general
acceptance
of
the
of
coming
together
of
Agriculture
and
the
environmental
resources,
management
and
I
think
that's
been
verified
by
the
public
and
by
this
plan.
So
I
will
just
echo
what
others
have
said.
It's
a
great
piece
of
work.
Congratulations.
C
So
I
wanted
to
echo
the
compliments
and
good
thoughts,
and
there
was
one
specific
comment:
I
had
made
at
the
study
session
about
making
a
specific
recognition
of
the
role
of
the
question
ism
on
agricultural
lands
and
no
one
on
the
board
had
a
different
view
of
that.
But
I
didn't
see
it
in
here.
Although
there's
occasional
references
under
existing
conditions
to
the
existence
of.
C
Some
horse
access,
but
I,
proposed
on
page
143,
because
I
think
equestrianism
is
a
little
as
a
particularly
strong
connection
to
agricultural
lands.
That
I
would
propose
under
there's
two
objectives:
I
would
propose
a
third
which
I'll
just
read:
recognizing
the
historic
connection
between
equestrianism
and
agriculture.
,
pursue
and
preserve
reasonable
equestrian
access
across
agricultural
lands.
I
think
I
would
propose
to
specifically
call
that
out
as
an
objective,
without
not
obviously
putting
in
quantitative
metrics
or
any
of
that
stuff.
P
C
I
did
want
to
all
in
favor
of
other
kind
I.
It
would
be
happy
to
also
talk
about
other
objectives
if
people
think
that
more
ought
to
be
said
about
those
I
just
feel
there's
a
somewhat
distinctive
equestrian
issue.
I
mean
certainly
hikers
mountain
bikers
others
have
access
issues
and
want
to
preserve
that
I.
Just
I
think
there's
a
somewhat
different
historic.
You
know
equation
between
equestrianism
and
agriculture
that
ought
to
be
or
separately
recognized
and.
V
Tom,
we
did
add
it
or
is
a
section:
it's
not
in
the
public,
passive
recreation
in
it.
It
maybe
is
just
complementary
to
what
you
just
said,
but
we
did
add
horse
boarding
listing
on
page
33
and
figure
12
we
added
horse
boarding
as
one
of
the
agricultural
active
and
then
in
the
existing
conditions.
We
just
talked
about
the
importance
of
horse
as
horses
and
an
important
element
of
the
OS
NP
agricultural
program
in
landscape.
So
that
might
just
be
complementary
to
what
you
said,
but
we
did.
V
C
B
Had
a
suggestion,
also
under
the
agricultural
management
working
lands
at
like
on
page
52,
it
kind
of
varies
all
the
way
down
the
contribution
of
the
lessees
to
the
management
in
cost
savings,
and
you
had
a
nice
couple
lines
that
set
operation
and
maintenance
activities.
Unleased
landscape
leads
to
significant
cost
savings
to
the
department
and
I'd
love
to
see
that
moved
up
closer
to
on
page
16
under
existing
conditions.
B
And
I'm
gonna
make
a
general
comment,
which
is
that
I
think
we've
done
a
wonderful
job,
but
I
am
concerned
that
we
don't
have.
The
base
rate
is
that
for
the
leases
yet,
and
that
does
concern
me
to
move
ahead
in
this
management
plan
without
anything,
but
a
hypothetical.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
concerns
about
that.
B
Given
that
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
input
from
some
of
the
Li
seas
and
it
concerns
me
that
it
could
stress
the
situation
so
I
know
we've
reached
out
and
done
a
lot
of
talking
back
and
forth.
But
it
is
a
significant
concern
on
my
part
and
Molly.
S
We
we
understand
exactly
what
you're,
saying
and
I
think
one
thing
when
we
sent
just
to
you
know
we
talked
about
a
plan
and
then
how
do
we
move
ahead?
So
it
doesn't
sit
on
the
Shelf
Andi
is
included
in
the
letter
that
went
out.
The
Lea
sees
about
this
meeting
that
we
are
going
to
meet
them
in
the
fall
to
begin
that
process
and
we've
made
that
commitment
in
that
letter.
So
we've
you
know
we're
trying
to
show
signs
of
following
up
not
just
to
complete
the
plan
but
post
plan.
S
B
I
guess
I'm,
mindful
that
some
of
the
leases
come
due
at
the
end
of
December.
So
if
we're
meeting
with
them
in
the
fall,
that's
a
that's
a
pretty
tight
schedule.
So.
W
Yeah
I've
we've
committed
to
the
tenants
that
we
will
have
include
them
very
strongly
in
these
discussions
and
there'll
be
a
transition
process
for
the
for
the
leases.
If
we're
this
fall.
For
example,
if
we
are
just
beginning
discussions
and
haven't
made
any
headway,
we
won't
change
lease
rates
without
finishing
discussion.
W
We've
heard
loud
loud
and
clear
from
them
that
they
want
to
be
involved
and
we're
going
to
make
every
effort
to
do
that.
In
fact,
I'm
also
putting
together
some
information
to
get
some
economic
help
from
outside
professionals
to
help
us
with
that.
So
we
are
moving
forward.
Then
we're
going
to
take
it
very
serious
from
outside
input
and
working
closely
with
the
AG
lessees
on
that
I
have.
B
W
C
Heidi,
since
this
is
an
actual
motion
on
an
approved
plan,
I
think
you
had
mentioned
having
some
additional
comments.
My
own
suggestion
would
be
if
they're
just
like,
if
it's
unlikely
like
a
typo
or
something
I,
think
that's
fine
to
clear
up.
If
it's
something
a
bit
more
substantive,
you
probably
ought
to
mention
them.
I,
don't.
D
K
C
Run
through
the
what
they
are
and
just
make
sure
we're
all
okay
with
them,
I
think
it's
fine
to
leave
to
staff
to
integrate
them
into
the
it
just
as
some
these
other
comments
have
been
worked
in,
so
the
motion
is
implicitly
and
as
amended,
but
I
don't
think
we
should
be
after
the
meeting
sending
additional
comments.
I
think
we
better
hope
I
agree.
No.