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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
3
public
hearings.,
the
first
one
will
be
a
public
hearing
and
consideration
of
a
motion
recommending
approval
of
the
proposed
open
space,
related
land
use,
changes
in
the
boulder
valley.
comprehensive
landing
map
within
the
boulder
junction
phase,
2
area
to
the
planning
board
and
city.
Council.-
so
if
you'd
like
to
speak
to
that
issue,.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
so,,
as
dave
mentioned,,
we
have
one
section
for
public
comment,
for
items
not
identified
for
public
hearing,
and
then
3
sections
identified
for
public
hearing..
If
you've
signed
up
to
speak,
you
will
be
called
on
to
speak..
If
you
would
like
to
speak
tonight,,
you
can
raise
your
hand.
you'll,
either
see
a
raised
hand
icon
at
the
bottom.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
If
you
don't
see
that
you
can
click
on
that
participants,
icon,
and
then
you'll
see
3
dots
show
up
on
the
bottom
and
click,
raise,
and
from
there
I
don't
see
anyone
joining
by
phone
yet,.
But
if
you
do
join
by
phone,
you
can
press
star
9
to
raise
your
hand.
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Wendy
sweet:
yes,.
You
heard
that
right.
we
have
been
cooperating
together
on
a
common
goal,
stay
tuned
for
next
month.
when
we
announce
a
solution
to
climate
change
and
world
peace..
Our
groups
are
very
much
interested
in
osmp,
visitor
use,
data,
and
how
staff
will
collect
and
use
this
data
for
adaptive
management,
practices.
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Wendy
sweet:
trail
counter
devices
on
the
white
rocks
trail
in
the
south,
boulder
creek
trail
to
increase
data
collection.
francis
also
provided
us
with
initial
visitors.
survey
and
visitation
estimate
data
for
these
sites
that
were
not
yet
public,
and
we
are
very
much
appreciative
of
their
quick
response..
Thank
you.
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Wendy
sweet:,
after
our
meetings
with
staff,,
I
feel
confident
we
are
all
on
the
right
track..
The
next
step
will
be
agreeing
on
adaptive
management
criteria
and
outcomes
based
on
this
data.,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
partner
with
the
boulder
county,
audubon
society
and
other
interested
stakeholders
on
this
step.
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Wendy
sweet:,
the
second
item,
I'd
like
to
bring
up
is
that
old,
no
e
bike,
signage
and
incorrect
maps
may
still
be
in
place
in
some
locations..
I've
anecdotally
heard
a
bikers,
not
knowing
the
correct
regulations
after
july
first,
and
of
e.
bikers
being
told
by
other
visitors.
They
were
not
allowed
on
the
trail.
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Pat
billig:
did
a
great
summary
of
what
we've
been
working
on
together.
and
one
of
our
objectives
is
to
for
and
why?.
Why?
I'm
speaking
at
this
meeting
is
to
learn
whether
the
steps
for
adaptive
management
in
the
city
of
boulder,,
open
space
and
mountain
parks,
department,
guidelines
for
adaptive
management
are
being
followed.
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Pat
billig:,
according
to
this
document,
presented
to
osbt
at
your
march,
2020.
third
meeting.,
these
steps
are
to
be
followed
under
certain
conditions,,
such
as
when
there's
high
stakeholder,
stakeholder
interest
and
involvement,
which
has
been
demonstrated
by
the
large
number
of
residents
and
open
space
visitors
who
spoke
at
both
the
osbt.
and
the
city
council.
Meetings.
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Pat
billig:
that
that's
all.
in
the
adaptive
management
plan.
as
you're
aware,,
we
still
have
controversy
regarding
visitor
displacement,
on
trails
open
to
bicycle
use
on
the
dowdy
draw
on
spring,,
but
trails
in
marshall
mesa,
because
there
was
no
protocol
in
place
to
collect
data
for
adaptive
management
purposes
when
the
use
of
those
trails
was
changed..
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Lynn,
segal:,
obviously
you
don't
want
to.,
lynn,
segal:
or
you
would
lynn
segal:,
because
this
is
so
archaic..
It's
4
years
coming
on
4
years
ago
that
we
have
covid.-
and
this
is
this-
is
just
ridiculous..
I
am
really
disheartened,
as
you
well
know,
I've
written
you
plenty..
I
really
don't
think
anything
of
this
board.
Anymore.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
open
space
amount
parks
lost
a
long,
time,
lifelong
champion
and
steward,
with
the
passing
of
dick,.
His
long
tenure
as
a
ranger
and
manager
for
the
mountain
parks
division
will
forever
have
an
imprint
of
his
presence..
Today
you
can't
walk
on
a
mountain
trail
and
enjoy
a
view
from
flagstaff,
green
mountain,,
royal
arch.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
beyond
dick's
decades
of
care.,
taking
of
the
land
and
living
things.
dick,
had
a
huge
caretaking
career
for
youth.,
perhaps
there's
no
bigger
long-term
benefit
or
impact
to
osmp
and
the
older
community
that
can
be
contributed
to
dick
than
the
junior
ranger
program.
Without
his
belief
in
the
program,
is
constant
work
to
secure
support
and
funding,
to
get
the
program
off
the
ground
and
to
keep
it
going
through
its
initial,
wobbly
years,.
When
it's
needed.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
we
have
a
a
total
of
5
applicants.
interviews
are
all
complete..
That
process
is
now
closed..
On
august
third
there'll
be
council
selection
of
the
open
seats,,
which
includes
the
open
for
the
trustee
see,
and
the
term
will
be
effective
immediately..
So
that
does
mean
upon
availability
of
the
of
the
new
trustee.
That
august
9.
Osp.
team
meeting
would
be
a
slaring
in
opportunity.
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A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
yeah,,
I
do.
we
know.
are
the
interviews
upline
line..
Do
you
know
that?,
so
all
about
one.
we're
applicants
from
the
winter
period,
and
which
interviews
for
those
they
expressed
the
continued
interest
to
be
part
of
consideration..
Those
interviews
were
conducted,.
I
believe,
in
march
of
last
year..
There
was
one
person
that,
through
their
have.
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A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
yeah,,
I
I
may
have
fumbled
with
michelle.,
although
I
didn't
know
much
more
than
than
anyone
else,.
I
did
know
that
the
process
was
gonna,
take
place
in
that
and
I
didn't
know
the
exact
closing
time
of
the
applications..
But
I
I
think
and
mentioned
that
it's
the
first
week
in
august,
through.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large,
conf
14):,
it
will
say,.
We
also
have
christopher
johnson
here
the
cp.
and
he
is
the
comprehensive
planning
manager
and
the
project
manager
for
the
boulder
junction
phase.
2
project..
So
if
there
are
any
questions
about
that
project
in
this
itself,,
he
is
here
and
available
to
answer
any
questions.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
tonight's
presentation
will
briefly
cover
the
main
topics
included
in
the
board's
memo..
This
is
both
for
the
public..
This
item
has
been
hearing,
as
we
know,
and
just
to
her
fresher
from
the
board,
and
I'll
begin
with
an
overview
of
the
open
space
land
use
designations
of
the
history
space
mapping.
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Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
the
bdcp
currently
includes
3
categories
of
open
space
of
land
use
designations,
and
up
on
the
slide
are
the
bbcp
definitions,,
so
open
space,
acquired,
or
osa
is
land
that
has
already
been
acquired
for
open
space
purposes,
open
space,
development,
right
for
restrictions.
osdr.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
open
space
other
or
oso..
It's
a
sort
of
historical
designation.
These
are
lands
that
were
identified
prior
to
1981
as
advanced
preserve,,
but
that
hasn't
been
acquired
or
don't
have
development
rights,
restrictions
on..
Hence
the
term
other..
So
it
is
a
little
confusing,
and
I'll
go
into
how
this
designation
came
to
be
described
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
the
upcoming
slides.
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C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
around
1,995,
the
bb,
c
t's,.
The
end
use
map
was
digitized.,
so
in
this
process
that's
enter.
What
was
from,,
you
know,
hand
drawn
mapping
into
mapping
software
that
was
personal,
based
and
extremely
accurate.,
and
because
of
this
result,,
it's
a
misalignment
and
some
other
types
of
views.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
in
2,000
is
part
of
the
bbcp
major
update
of
smp
and
comprehensive
planning
staff
work
together
to
split
out
the
one
broad
open
space
land
use
destination
to
reflect.
The
3
categories
run
over
os
a
acquired,
osd
development
rights.
and
then
what
was
left
over
was
designated.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
definition,,
some
things
that
might
not
be,
you
know,
obvious
that
they
are
important..
You
know,
context
for
understanding
what
oso
actually
means.,
you
know,
it's
important
to
remember:
it's
pre
1,981
identification
of
lands,
preserve.
the
values
or
reasons
are
unknown
because
they
weren't.
they
weren't
documented..
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D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
when
development
is
proposed.,
conf
osmp
hub,
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
oh,
and
I
wanted
to
say,
and
obviously
there's
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
among
the
community
about
what
oso
is.
there's
confusion
about
what
the
resource
values
are,
and
if
osmp
is
interested,
inquiring
or
managing
the
land.
It
is
also.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
created
some
challenges
during
the
development
review
process..
So
when
development
is
proposed
on
a
private
parcel
with
an
oso
land
use,
designation,
planning
step
does
reach
out
to
osmp
staff,
to
evaluate
the
natural
resource,
values,
and
then
planning
takes
that
into
account
and
issues
the
development
for
permits
on
the
property.
accordingly,
in
this
developer,
review
committee
or
drc
processes.
we
refer
to
it.,
has
been
ongoing
for
about
20
years,.
So
a
long
time,
and.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
and
at
times.
the
board
can
also
get
involved
during
this..
This
type
of
process
is
especially
controversial
one,,
since
it's
like,,
since
it's
3,
11
may
remember
that
one
because
of
kind
of
the
complications
that
can
arise
from
oso
during
the
developer
review
process,,
we
have
started
to
try
to
practically
clean
up
some
of
the
oso
designations
where
they
may
not
make
a
lot
of
sense.
D
conf,
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
we
have
reviewed
and
made
open
space
and
then
use
designation.
Changes.
recently,
as
part
of
the
the
last
minor
of
date
is
in
2,020,
and
we
are
scheduled
for
a
major
update
in
2,025
and
we
anticipate,
you
know,
just
further
exploring
this
comprehensive
planning,
stuff,,
potentially
looking
at
other
ways
to
clean
up
or
make
progress
on
that.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then.
now,
as
part
of
the
boulder
junction
phase,
2
process.
we've
really
taken
a
close
look
at
all
the
os..
So
within
this
planning
area.
and
now
I'm
going
to
trip
over
to
julia,
and
she's
going
to
share
some
specifics
about
the
project
and
why?
It's
being.
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
so..
I
wanted
to
start
by
sharing
kind
of
the
background
and
purpose
of
the
roller
junction
phase.
2,
project,
the
transit
village
area
plan
or
t.
back
was
completed
in
2,007,
and
this
and
guides
the
future
development
of
older
junction,,
which
is
the
area
around
thirtieth,
street,,
pearl,
parkway,,
belmont
and
girl.
Street.
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M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
working
group's
focus
is
on
multi-disciplinary
interests
and
recommendations.,
so
open
space
land
used
in
the
nations
haven't
been
a
focus
of
this
group..
Therefore,
staff
have
been
coordinating
directly
with
trustee
carroll
in
order
to
focus
specifically
on
osmp.
Interests,
opens
basically
and
do
specific
nations
and
recommendations.
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M
M
M
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
we're
recommending
that
oso
over
these
already
developed
lands
be
changed
to
the
final
land
use
designation
being
recommended
as
part
of
the
boulder
junction
fees
to
project
right
now,
the
recommended
land
use
is
tentatively
mixed-use,
transit,,
oriented
development
or
m.
utod.
M
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
in
addition
to
oso
removal,,
we're
also
proposing
one
land,
use,
designation,
correction
and
new
pearl
street
industrial
scenic
easement
property
shown
on
these
maps
as
previously
as
fired
through
conservation
easement,.
So
it
should
appear
as
osdr.
to
reflect
osmp
ownership
of
the
easement.
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
in
2,007,
as
part
of
tb.
of
land
uses
included
an
os
designation,
indicating
open
space.
greenway
over
the
goose
creek
green
way..
We
reviewed
and
evaluated
this
green
way
and
found
that
it
doesn't
reflect
an
open
space
interest..
So
we
support
the
currently
proposed
alternative
of
designating
this
area
as
parklands
or
pkuo..
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D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
point
up
the
slide.
That
shows
the
savings,
so
you
can
see
it
in
relation
to
the
ditches..
You
can
probably
see
sure.
so
there
it
is.
so
on
the
left.
You
can
see
the
the
the
ditch
and
that
area
actually
used
to
have
a
scenic
usement
over
it.
and
in
1,987
that
easement
was
vacated,
and
instead
it
was
traded
for
the
green
area
that
you
can
see
in
the
picture
on
the
right.
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
for
street
industrial
parts,,
scenic
easement,,
and
the
reasoning
that
was
given
for
that
exchange
was
that
the
new
pearl
street
industrial
park,
sc.
property,
was
more
visible
to
the
public,
and
the
the
concrete
channel
ditches,,
and
because
it
was
a
more
natural
grass
lines
channel
than
the
concrete
line
stitches..
And
so
at
that
time
there
was
a
little
bit
more
value,
recognized,
and-
and
we
also
recognize
that.
M
D
H
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
the
ditches
they
they
also
have
basements
over
the
ditches,.
But
this
particular
easement
is
just
just
osmp.
who
owns
the
who
owns
that?,
I
don't
know.
is
it?.
Is
it
pearl
street
industrial
park??
But
I
I
I
ask
bethany,
who
owns
it?,
I'm
not
sure
if
she's
on
the
call,,
but
I
think
it's
pearl
street.
industrial.
D
A
L
A
A
J
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
managing
that?.
I
think
we,
you
know,
we
recognize
it,
this
kind
of
question
questionable.,
but
there,.
When
we
were
looking
at.,
we
have
a
bunch
of
scenic
eastern.,
I'm
not
sure
how
many
that
are
kind
of
related
to
this
that
that
are
similar
to
this
in
nature..
One
reason
we
just
wanted
to
in
this
process,
just
reflect
accurate,
current
ownership,,
this
kind
of
the
scope
of
this
project..
If
we
wanted
to
consider
disposal
of
that,
that
would.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
a
pretty
lengthy
whole,
not
to
process
the
boulder
junction
phase.
2
project
is
on
a
pretty
tight
timeline
by
council's
direction..
We
want
to
do
disposal
to
clean
up
the
map
that
would
slow
that
project
project
down.,
the
other
thought
is,.
If
we
were
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
scene.
it
isn't,
and
say
what
really
is
the
value
you
want
to
consider
maintaining
this,
that
we
we
might
want
to
do
a
kind
of
a
comprehensive
log
in
like,
hey?.
How
many
pcs
are
there?
D
D
H
H
A
A
N
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):.
Do
we
have
one
person
signed
up
in
advance.
and
if
you
would
like
to
speak,,
you
can
also
raise
your
hand,
and
if
you
are
joining
by
phone.,
you
can
press
star
9
to
raise
your
hand..
So
the
we'll
start
with
the
one
person
who
signed
up
to
speak
lynn,
siegel.
D
G
A
A
M
N
Jon
carroll,
(he/him):
all.
all
motion
to
recommend
the
planning
board
and
city
council.:
approval
of
the
proposed
open
space
land
use.
designation
changes
within
the
boulder
junction
phase,
2.
area
to
the
boulder
valley.,
comprehensive
plan;
land
use
map,
including
removal
of
the
oso
land
use
designation
over
an
adjacent
to
boulder
left
hand
and
north
boulder
farmer
stitches
between
the
railroad
tracks
and
foothills
parkway,
north
of
pearl
parkway
and.
N
A
A
A
B
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large
conf
14):,
so
we
are
moving
on
to
our
fourth
and
final
touch
with
the
board
regarding
the
2,024
open
space
month,
parks,
cip
and
operating
budget.,
and
we
are..
I
am
going
to
turn
things
right
over
to
call
moffat
or
senior
accountant
to..
We
will
have
support
from
sam
and
queen
as
well,
for
this
presentation.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
some
examples
of
mp.
and
course
service.
Projects.
programs
are
things
like
routine
maintenance
projects
like
trail
science
and
fencing,
equipment
and
material
for
field;
work,,
funded
research
and
things
like
training
and
personal
protective,
equipment,,
otherwise
known
as
ppe.
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
the
last
2
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
pieces
of
the
operating
budget,
are
cost
allocation
and
debt
service,
so
cost
allocation
makes
up
8%
of
the
operating
budget.
This
year,
and
the
cost
allocation
plan
is
developed
by
the
finance
department
and
assigned
indirect
general
fund
cost
to
departments
such
as
city
attorneys.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
lastly,
moving
into
debt
service
bond
payments
and
annual
payments
to
the
boulder.
municipal,
property,,
authority,
or
bump
up.
make
up
3
of
our
operating
budget
in
our
debt,
and
within
our
debt
service
includes
a
repayment
of
a
2,014
general
obligation
bond.
A
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
next
slide.,
please
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
To
dig
into
this
further,.
The
department
uses
a
fund
financial
to
detail,
revenues,
expenditures,
and
reserves
across
years
for
the
open
space
fund..
A
similar
document
is
maintained
by
the
finance
department
for
the
lottery
fund.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
Here
revenues
are
categorized
to
better
understand
sources
of
funds
for
osmp's
operating
and
cip.
Budgets
includes
actual
dollars
received
in
2,022,,
the
2,023
budgeted
amount,
and
an
estimate
of
2,024
revenues
in
each
category..
Estimates.
For
some
of
these
categories,
like
sales
and
use
tax
revenue,
are
provided
to
us
by
the
finance
department
in
their
work
with
you,
economic
forecasters.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
These
are
the
revenues
we
reviewed
at
the
last
business
meeting..
We
use
a
combination
of
known
revenue,
increase
amounts,
the
consumer
price
index
released
by
the
federal
bureau
of
labor
statistics
and
coordination
with
the
finance
department
to
build
assumptions
for
other
categories.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
just
a
note,
here.
the
fund
financial
list.
budget
by
program
and
set
of
service
area
programs
are
a
citywide
designation,
and
our
budget
is
published
with
these
titles.
since
fund
financials
are
used
by
departments
and
fund
managers
across
the
city..
It's
a
helpful
way
to
start
comparing
budgets
across
different
functions.
D
D
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
have
a
question.
well,,
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
need
to.,
but
what
was
that?
1
million?
a
long
way
again
in
20230,,
so
the
20.
that
is
our
carry
over,
and
so
that
is
the
money
that
we
use
year
over
year
from
cip.,
so
projects
that
have
started
or
and
are
moving
forward
or
projects
that
need
to
be
completed.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
it
does
include
quite
a
large
dollar
amount
over
4
million
dollars
for
acquisition,
cip.,
and
so
we've
used
the
cip
to
plan
for
our
acquisitions
in
the
past,
and
to
save
for
acquisitions,.
We
are
taking
a
look
at
whether
this
is
the
right
approach
to
continue
to
carry
over
money.
Every
year.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
the
other
piece
of
this
is,
there's
over
a
million
dollars
in
funding
for
marshal
fire
recovery
work,.
So
things
that
we
anticipate
to
be
covered
by
fema
and
insurance
proceeds.
We
have
front
to
those
costs
and
are
planning
to
do
some
of
that
work.,
and
so
it's
we
have
appropriated
the
money
during
an
atv.
and
22,
and
carried
it
into
2,023..
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
So
when
we
see
this
number,
every
year,
so
you'll
see
a
carry
over..
So
you'll
always
see
a
line
like
this.
That's
sort
of
its
own..
It's
online,
like
that.
yep,
for
the
current
fiscal..
So
for
2,023
this
year,
next
year,
you'll
see
it
in
2,024,
and
that'll,
be
our
carry
over
amount.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf,
14):
we,,
as
I
mentioned,.
We
do
have
a
we're,
making
a
lot
of
efforts
to
try
to
reduce
that
dollar
amount
operationalizing
a
lot
of
our
work
as
part
of
that
process.
That
effort
to
reduce
the
amount.
but
yeah,
you'll
see
that
as
a
as
a
separate
line,
and
it's
going
to
be
a.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
just
only
show
up
in
the
current
year..
So
if
you
looked
at
the
full
fund,
financial,,
the
rest
of
the
row
would
be
blank
through
2,029.
many
times.,
we'll
start
a
capital
project.
One
year,
and
they'll
take
another
year
to
actually
get
through
design,,
permitting
the
instructions
of
some
of
that
to.
J
J
I
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
for
a
more
detailed
breakdown
of
the
expenditure
budget.
By
work
group.-
we
can
look
at
an
example
from
the
department
detail
page.
this
one
page
document
is
no
longer
included
in
the
published
budget,,
but
we
still
use
it
as
a
department
to
communicate
detailed
budget
information.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
the
last
big
piece
of
the
draft,
2,024
budget
operating
budget
is
staffing
levels
by
service.
Area,
and,
as
coal
mentioned,
osmp
supports
standard
full
time
equivalent
or
fte
employees,,
temporary
employees
and
seasonal
employees,,
and
one
fte
is
modeled
at
2,080
h
per
year.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
temporary
and
seasonal
employee.
numbers
are
shown
here
as
an
accounting
of
how
many
employees
are
expected
to
be
hired
in
the
department,,
not
as
fte..
So
the
146.6
f.
t.
e.
listed
here
account
for
the
addition
of
some
fte
and
conversion
of
temporary
positions
to
standard
ft.,
as
presented
at
the
june
business
meeting.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
next
slide,
please.,
conf
osmp,
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
finally,,
we'll
close
with
a
look
at
the
2,024
operating
and
cip
budget
together..
The
operating
budget,,
which
includes
service
area
budgets,
cost
allocation
and
debt
payments
makes
up
83%
of
the
budget..
The
cip
makes
up
the
remainder
of
the
budget.
D
D
A
K
D
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
presumably
some
other
people
are
getting
raises..
It's
not
just
that
they're
gonna,
that's
the
full.!
So
yes,!
That's
that's
for
that.
One
at
the
end.
doubt
it?
no.,
so
the
additional
costs,
you
see,
are
so
coal
mentioned
that
the
finance
department
models,
our
standard
positions
for
us..
They
model
them
in
a
similar
way
to
how
we
model
our
seasonal
and
temporary..
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
they
build
in
assumptions
for
merit,
increases
each
year..
They
build
an
assumptions
for
benefit,
changes
and
they
build
in
assumptions
for
for
any
kind
of
any
other..
I
mentioned
benefits.,
so
any
other
benefits
that
that
would
normally
be
accounted
for,
and
typically
these
increase
year
over
year.,
so
you'll
see
an
increase.
D
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
let's
see,
this
is
this
is
no,
and
I
apologize..
Let
me
just
get
this
up
on
my,.
You
look
at
agricultural
management
with
one
of
t,
extra,
and
there's
a
419,000..
That's
the
period
I
know..
So
maybe
we
have
to
pay
them
that
much,,
because
there's,
let
me
just
make
sure
I'm
I'm
referring
to
the
same
columns
as
as
you
are
looking
at..
So
if
we're
looking,
can
you?,
can
you
say
which
ones
you're
looking
at?
one
more
time.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
variance,,
23
and
24,
one
f,
te.
$419,000.
thank
you.,
sorry
about
that.
as
an
example
of.
What's
clearly
I
don't
understand.
What's
going
on.,
yeah,
yeah.,
I
apologize
for
that.,
I
wasn't
thinking
of
the
last
column
there.
and
so
now
I'm
looking
at
the
same
document
you're
looking
at.
so
there!.
There
is
one
addition
of
one
fte,.
The
one
fte
is
not
419,000..
That's
that
is,
any
increases
to
staffing
costs.
That's
peaked
into
the
419,000.,
but.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
those
budget,
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
request..
We
call
them
budget
requests.,
so
any
additions
to
the
budget,
and
those
are
reflected
in
that
number,
as
well.
okay,
just
highly
variable
as
a
function
of
it.
and
so
there's
obviously
more
going
on.
and
then
that's
yeah.
it's,.
I
think
there's.
and
you
want
to..
I
was
gonna
say
to
you
the
add
program.
specifically,.
We
took.
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
no,.
That
was
another
personnel..
That's
not
so
we're
looking
at.,
not
not
sure..
It's
not
personnel.
Numbers.
yeah,!
There's
it's
a
mix
of
all
of
the
operating
costs.,
so
it
would
be
non-personnel
person,
now,,
so
standard
and
non-standard
fte
are
included
in
the
dollar
amount,
the
fte.,
and
so
I
did
mention..
You
know
we..
We
kept
this
because
we
thought
the
the
one
pager
was
a
helpful
tool..
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
it's
it's
not
just
the
ftes
that
are
accounting
for
all
of
that,.
It's
all
the
operating
monies
to
go
to
support
that
particular
work
group
or
program
area..
It
is,
yes,,
slightly
confusing
to
them.
yeah,,
even
though
we
have
a
specific
column
just
to
let
you
know
what
the
fte
count
is.,
the
total
amount
dollar
showing
is
the
program.
okay.
H
A
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
correction.,
conf,
osmp,
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
How
much
flexibility
do
you
all
have??
And
that's
when
you
do
the?
I
forget
what
you
call
it.
you
have
to
re
calculate
the
budget..
You
actually
have
quite
a
bit
of
management
flexibility
within
these
numbers
to
change
things
as
you
see.
K
K
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
to
adapt
to
magic
practices,
to
your
own
staffing,
basically,,
or
to
the
kind
of
that
work.
well,
for
instance,,
like
we
have
our
agricultural
ecology
program
area,,
which
was
just
established
by
in
2,020
on
the
heels
of
all
the
prairie
dog
work..
We
establish
a
separate
program
area
within
this
line,
item,
to
work
on
restoring
our
your
cultural
lands.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
we
do.
we
every
year
we
could
use
budget
monies
to
say,.
How
many
temporary
staff
do
we
need
more
temporary
staff
to
fund
that
program?,
which
properties
should
they
hit?
should
we??
Where
should
the
emphasis
be
for
that??
Those
are
the
flexibilities.
We
have.
H
I
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
that
seasonal
and
temporary
employees.
that's
a
complicated
number,,
because
it's
the
number
of
positions.
do
you
all
internally,
try
to
do
a
conversion
to
fte,
so
somebody,
we're
wanting
to
know
what
order
of
magnitude,
how
how
the
resources
increased
or
decreased
over
time
by
program
area..
I
know
that's
further
complicated
by
the
use
of
contractors.
I
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large
conf
14):,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
if
we
wanted
to
get
sort
of
a
sense,
for.-
and
I
know
that,
like
the
junior
rangers,
once
as
a
difficult
one,-
it's
130
positions..
But
you
could
actually
calculate
that
right.
Number
of
that
approved
hours
and
the
number
of
days
and
and
and
how
that
program
has
brought
over
time..
Because
I've
seen
that
what's
nice
to
see
that
the
the
junior
major
program
has
increased
over
time.
I
I
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
know,,
if,
if
you
did
any
trying
attempting
to
convert
those
10
fte,
yeah.,
so
that
is
that's
an
interesting
question
to
in
our
the
previous
iterations
of
the
budget.
Book..
It
was
actually
done
city-wide.,
and
so
there
was
a
table
that
included
for
every
department,
conversion
of
seasonal
and
temporary
hours
into
fte.
We
as
a
department
haven't,
haven't
shared
that,,
but
we
can
certainly
calculate
that
and
start
to
share
that
to.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
to
look
over
time..
We
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):,
mostly
have
been
just
tracking
by
head
count
and
number
of
hours
which
translate
into
the
the
budget
hours
for
us..
But
it's
not
something
that
we're
unable
to
do..
So
we
can..
We
can
look
into
that
for
sure.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
at
the
to
retrieve.
for
instance,.
We
want
to
kind
of
get
we
and
have
some
input
into
next
year's
budget
and
process.
you
know,.
We
we've
done
that
exercise
this
past
year
with
wildfire,
resilience
and
forestry..
You
know
where
we
all..
We
are
at
4
staff
people,
and
we
move
to
8..
We
move
to
10.,
we
need
to
be
at
13.,
so
we
look
at
that
trend
data
when
we
have
a
specific
area
that
we're
looking
at.
certainly..
So
if
there's
a
program
area.
H
H
A
A
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
cost
allocation
number..
I
can
start,
yeah.
and
these
off
cycle
years.
yes,.
They
just
give
us
a
3%
number,
whatever
that
is
before
they
update
it.
and
that's
just
kind
of
what
we
have
to
go
with
on
years,
that
they
do
change
it..
They
give
us
a
chance
to
look
at
everything,
and
we
go
through
the
cost
drivers..
We
look
at
different
things.
Like,.
Does
this
number
look.
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
know,.
Maybe
we
think
we're
getting
charged
too
much
from
this
area
because
we
handle
that
service
more
of
ourselves.
type
thing,
and
we
give
feedback
to
that..
I
know
when
the
plan
was
last
getting
updated..
I
believe
it
was
21
in
a
post,
covid
and
say,.
Maybe
you
can
help
me
with
this
one.,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
our
feedback.
A
A
A
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
They
are
actual
hours
so
when
they
update
the
plan,
they
do
it
based
off
of
number
of
hours..
So
a
consultant
will
work
with
the
individual
departments
to
get
those
hours
in
the
years
where
the
plans
are
updated..
That's
when
we
really
give
most
of
our
feedback.,
and
so
that
would
be
a
case..
So
if
you're
talking
about
number
of
hours.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
of
service
perform.,
that's
a
case
where
we
would
give
feedback
and
say,
well,
actually,.
We
think
it
was
this
number
of
hours.
in
the
last
plan
that
was
updated
in
2,023.
for
example,.
I
think
there
were
a
handful
of
software
licenses
on
there,
and
they
included
all
of
our
staff,
and
many
of
our
staff.
Members
didn't
have
that
license.,
so
we
went
back
and
gave
them
the
number
that
we
had
recorded,
for
how
many
people
we
knew.
D
D
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
thanks.,
then
my
other
question
is
somewhat
tangential.
but
and
this
is
kind
of
a
head
scratcher,
and
I
talked
to
one
about
it,
and
she
said
you
were
going
to
explain
it..
I
want
to
know
why
there
is
a
parenthetical
in
table.
for
after
administration
that
says,
environmentally
sustainable.
A
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
They
don't
necessarily
align
with
others
in
the
city..
If
they
did,,
they
would
probably
keep
those
same
names.
so
so
they
they
are
called
just
resources
and
stewardship
and
trails
and
facilities
on
the
program
level.
For
some
of
our
other
work,
like
work
up
central
services
and
the
work
of
our
office
of
the
director
to
have
more
of
an
administrative
function.,
there
is
really
a
desire
to
start
tracking
that
across
the
city.,
and
so
we've
called
that
administration.
and
there's
an.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
we,.
There
are
a
handful
of
categories
that
are
included
in
the
city,
sustainability
and
resilience,
framework.
and
I,.
The
parentheses.
there
are
are
also
a
designation
that
we
receive
that
says
that
the
work
of
this
administrative
program
is
focused
on
that
environmentally
sustainable
category.,
and
so
there
could
be
others
in
the
city
that
also
have
that
designation.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
I'm
not
quite
sure,
if
they're
using
that
part
of
the
category
to
start
tracking..
This
is
new
for
us..
This
is
a
new
thing
that
we're
doing
with,
and
so
it's
I'm
interested
to
see,
you
know.,
we'll
learn
with
the
finance
apartment
department
and
start
to
partner
with
them,
to
understand
what
the
parentheses
part
of
it
is
going
to
do
for
us
and
what
we're
going
to
be
able
to
track
from
there..
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
do
we
know
other
nomenclature
for
administration
that
are
being
used.
yeah..
So
I
I
couldn't
give
you
an
example
off
the
top
of
my
head.
from
from
other
departments.,
but
we
do
have..
There
are
other
sr
framework,
categories,
and
they'll,
and
I
can
hope
I've
got
them
open.,
I'm
just.
D
K
D
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
so..
We
are
still
learning
how
how
that's
going
to
be
tied..
We
we're
tracking
the
overall
administration
cost
and
then
laying
the
the
scr
go
on
top
of
it
and
saying
that,
hey,.
These
administration
costs
most
closely
align
with
the
sustainability
and
resilience
framework,
goal.
B
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
okay,.
We
have
more
to
learn
that
we
do
have
more
to
learn
there.
it's
a
new
system
also..
The
other
things
that
we
may
be
revisiting
in
subsequent
years
is
what
I
mentioned.
The
word
program
areas
which
we
think
of
is
our
your
cultural
program,.
It
from
the
citywide
perspective.,
there's
just
4
program
for
4
or
4
program
of
ours
that
the
city
recognizes.,
and
so
we
are
with
this
new
way
of
incorporating
the
enterprise
level.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf,
14):
budget..
We
may
be
looking
at
what
we
want
to
have
defined
as
a
program
area
at
the
city
wide
level.
and
we
may
recommend
some
changes
to
that..
But
right
now
we
have
just
gone
with
our
service
areas
as
well.
What
the
city
is
calling
our
program
areas.,
even
though
we
all
know
at
the
director
office,
the
director
and
central
services,.
They
do
a
lot
more
than
just
administration..
I
mean,.
We
support
all
the
service
areas.,
so
we're
involved
in
helping
out
our
agricultural
program
or
forestry
program.,
but.
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
in
the
best
we
can.
and
it
could
look
different
even
next
year
of
how
we're
describing
some
of
these
things,.
We
look
forward
to
that.
so,
in
the
risk
of
going
from
supply
to
the
ridiculous,,
which
I
think
I
just
did..
Are
there
any
other
clarifying
questions,
or
are
we
ready
to
go
to
public
comment?.
D
D
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
I
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
general
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
a
6
year
period
between
one
to
2
million
dollars,,
which
is
what
you
see
in
the
fund.
financial.
If
we
do
get
into
a
deficit
situation
which
we
haven't
in
the
last
couple
of
years
last
several
years.,
we
would
dip
into
fund
balance
if
we
absolutely
had
to..
But
it's
not
in
our
plans
for
the
next
6
years,
because
of
our
our
reserve
policies
and
the
way
that
we've
built
out
our
fund.
financial.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
on
the
notion
of
deficit.,
and
I
sam,.
I
think
your
explanation
is
very
fit
and
helpful..
But
if
I'm
also
thinking
that
it.
people
are.
see
that
our
discussion
of
the
trail
maintenance
backlog,
for
example,,
is,
is,,
you
know,,
40
million
dollars,
or
whatever
the
number
is
need.
That's
out
there
that
we
still
have
not
question
for..
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
deals
with
the
incrementally
and
so
I,.
I
think
that
we
are
addressing
that,
and
we
obviously
won't
do
it
in
one
fell
scoop.,
but
we
we
do
do
it
on
an
annual
basis,
and
sometimes
it's
higher,,
and
sometimes
it's
not
so
high.
but
in
any
event,.
I
think
that
is
out
in
front
of
a
lot
of
us
that
we're
paying
attention
to
that
as
well.
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
what
the
maintenance
needs
are
over
a
6
or
a
10
year
period
for
your
asset
class
that
you're
responsible.
and
if
you're,
if
you
do
good,
responsible
asset
management,,
you
would
know
what
type
of
maintenance
you
want
to
put
into
your
asset
classes..
So
yes,,
there's
always
going
to
be
a
projected
need
for
every
asset
class,,
whether
it's
trails
or
trailances..
You
need
to
keep
it
up
to
date..
Sometimes
you
need
to
do
a
significant
repair..
Sometimes
you
want
to
construct
something
new.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
that's
just
good
asset
management,
to
sort
of
know,
to
be
able
to
project
and
to
know
where
your
needs
are,,
and
to
do
a
rough
estimate
of
what
you
think,
those
costs
are..
So
then,.
When
you
do
your
annual
budgeting,,
you
can
go
to
work
at
various
pieces
of
that
right?.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
motion..
I
try
that
you
do
have
that.
and
I
oh,
yes,
thank
you,
megan..
I
apologize..
We
do
have
a
change
to
the
motion,,
a
slight
change
to
the
motion
language
on
the
first
motion
listed
for
the
cip..
This
is
just
for
a
recommendation.
and
the
the
version
that
is
in
the
memo
includes.
The
word
approve.
So
this
version
that
on
the
screen
is
the
corrected.
Version.
B
A
I
A
D
A
I
A
A
A
I
H
A
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
reducing
conflict
between
prairie
dogs
and
irrigated
agricultural
lands..
As
you
all
know,
we've
been
on
about
a
5
month.
internal
process
to
kind
of
look
at
what's
working
well,,
what's
not
in
the
suggests,
a
few
refinements
to
the
overall
policy
guidance
that
we
received
in
2,020.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
do
want
to
know
offhand.
that
be
when
I
turn
things
over
to
heather,
that
I
heather.
and
I
did
speak
a
a
week
or
2
ago
about
adding
some
additional
upfront
slides.
That
might
be
helpful
for
this
board,
just
because
the
foundation
of
our
management
rests
on
so
much,.
You
know.
really,
policies
dating
back
to
2,025.
That's
still
in
place.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
through
various
agricultural
plans
and
grasslines
plans.,
and
so
heather's
going
to
spend
just
about
3
or
4
additional
minutes
up
front.
To
just
give
you
a
sense
of
everything
that
this
resting
on
on
our
work
in
in
regards
to
prairie
dogs.
and
what
sort
of
piece
we're
looking
at
tonight..
So
with
that,.
I'm
going
to
turn
things
over
to
how
the
response
and
our
interim
director
of
resources.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf,
14):
so,
as
dan
said,,
and
we
can
go
ahead
to
the
next
slide.,
I'm
going
to
be
joined
tonight
by
tory
pollton,.
So
I'm
going
to
give
some
of
the
background,
and
then
we'll
hand
things
over
to
her.
but,
as
dan
said,
conversations
around
party
dog
management
and
see
boulder
and
on
open
space
and
mount
parks
have
been
ongoing
for
many
decades.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
to
best
address
prairie
dog
management,
parade
out
conservation,,
greater
crack
grassland
conservation,
and
those
types
of
topics
so
kind
of
our
current
foundation.
For
our
paradox,
management
starts
in
2,000
when
the
city
passed
a
wildlife
protection
ordinance
which
prohibited
lethal
control
of
prairie
dogs
in
the
city
of
boulder
and
on
city
properties..
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
during
that
time
frame
it
was
after
a
playing
at
the
zootic,,
and
there
was
rapid
growth
of
colonies
on
private
and
public
lands,
and
also
during
that
time,
when
development
occurred,,
those
prairie
dogs
were
relocated
to
open
space
and
mount
parks,.
So
there
was
a
extensive
relocations
to
osmp
at
the
time
in
2,005,.
That
ordinance
was
amended
to
actually
make
it
consistent
with
state
law.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
that
allowed
for
limited
circumstances
under
which
lethal
control
was
allowed
within
the
city
and
on
city
properties,
through
the
use
of
a
special
permit
for
lethal
control..
But
at
the
time,
through
those
community
conversations
around
the
management
of
open
space,.
Specifically,
the
community
was
the
strong,
and
they're
feeling
that
lethal
control
did
not
have
a
place
on
open
space..
So
it
although
it
was,.
Although
there
was
a
legal
path
for
special
permits.,
it
was
not
used
for
open
space.
Purposes.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
in
2,005,
through
2,008,
so
that
a
plague
move
through
the
open
space
land
system.,
and
so
we
saw
a
very
dramatic
drop
in
parade
on
populations
at
the
time.,
which,
which
was
a
a
good
opportunity
on
our
agricultural
properties.
To
do
some
restoration.
That
unfortunately,
also
lined
up
with
the.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
recession
at
the
time,
and
associated
budget
and
staff
reductions,
which
somewhat
limited
our
ability
to
identify
new
and
additional
funding
and
capacity
to
respond
to
that..
So
there
was
some
restoration
done,,
but
not
as
much
as
we
would
hope
to
be
in
a
position
to
do..
We
found
ourselves
in
that
position.
Again.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
then,
in
2,010,
the
department
completed
the
grassland
ecosystem
management
plan
that
really
looked
at
grassland
conservation
overall
and
put
prey
dog
management
in
the
context
of
that
overall
grassland
conservation
plan
and
at
the
time,
though,.
Although
parade
dogs
were
only
one
component
of
the
grassland
plan,
a
lot
of
the
community
and
decision
maker
conversation
focused
around
prairie
dog.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
at
the
time
there
was,
there
was
fairly
robust
conversation
around
neighbor
conflict.,
but
the
grassland
plan
did
not
identify
any
specific
strategies
to
address
conflicts.
and
so
staff
continued
to
support
neighbors
in
managing
prairie
dogs
on
their
own
property.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
next
slide,
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
in
2,016,
the
community
and
city
council.-
entered
into
a
conversation
around
the
removal
of
prey
dogs
at
a
private
property
called
the
armory
around..
The
the
development
of
that
property..
The
the
developer
was
seeking
a
special
permit
for
lethal
control,
and
the
the
community
felt
very
strongly
that
that
was
not
desirable..
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
so
open
space,
and
mount
parks
did
take
prairie
dogs
from
the
armory
property
over
2
years
of
relocation
to
southern
grasslands,
and
at
the
time
I'm
city
council
then
also
directed
staff
because
of
the
level
of
community
interest
and
conversation
and
disagreement
over
prairie
dog
management.
That
came
to
light
as
part
of
the
armory
conversation
to
create
the
parade
on
working
group,
to
to
examine
city
prairie
dog
management.
on
all
city
properties,,
not
just
on
all
this
space
and
all
parks.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
At
the
same
time,
the
agricultural
management
plan
was
completed
in
2,017,
and
it
set
out.
goals
for
agriculture
on
osmp..
Agriculture
had
been
included
in
the
grassland
ecosystem
management
plan.,
but
this
really
put
a
a
spotlight
on
the
agricultural
program
and
came
up
with
some
very
specific
goals
and
objectives
for
those.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
uses
of
our
property,
and
that
included
pretty
broad
and
extensive
engagement
with
the
agricultural
community,.
Unless
these
on
open,
space.
and,
like,,
I
said,
sort
of
running
a
parallel
with
that
was
the
product
working
group.-
their
recommendation,.
Their
final
recommendations,
went
to
city,
council
and
20
at
the
end
of
2,018
and
that
periodic
working
group
included
members
of
the
community,,
including
osmp
and
parks,
and
wreck
neighbors,
parade
out
conservation,
advocates,,
agricultural
producers,
and
ecologists.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
then
in
2,020
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):.
There
was
in
well,
actually,
in
2,019..
There
was
intense
interest
in
the
fact
that
the
product
working
group
had
not
provided
a
lot
of
recommendations
around
mitigating
conflict
between
prairie
dogs
and
agriculture,
on
open
space
and
mountain
parks.,
and
so
staff.
The
community
and
the
board
undertook
the
conversation
which
we're
currently
focusing
on
to
look
at
how
that
conflict
could
be
better
addressed.,
particularly
on
irrigated
agricultural
properties.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
that
that
staff
undertakes
every
year.,
sometimes
many
times
a
year,
based
on
the
guidance
that
we've
got
in
in
these
policy
and
plan
documents..
So
as
far
as
conservation
is
concerned,,
this
is
things
like
monitoring
and
mapping
annually
of
prairie
dogs,
monitoring
of
associated
species.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
annual
meeting
that
we
hold
for
neighbors
lesse
and
anybody
in
the
community
to
collect
feedback,
share
the
current
status
of
our
management
and
product
populations
and
our
plans
for
upcoming
management
and
coexistence
experimentation,,
which
was
included
in
the
2,020
conversations.
As
a
collaborative
learning
group.-
which
is
an
ongoing
process.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
so
this
includes
communication
with
neighbors
around
their
property
management..
This
is
something
that
happens
year.
Round.
with
a
variety
of
neighbors
often
includes
usually
tory,,
although
if
it's
next
to
an
agricultural
property,,
sometimes
our
agricultural
staff
get
involved
in
site
visits.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
talking
about
technical
information
suggestions
with
neighbors,
helping
them
interpret
regulations.
both
at
the
city,
county
or
state
level,,
helping
them
with
site
specific
planning,,
because
topography
factors
a
lot
into
the
best
way
to
manage
pre
dogs
on
a
specific
site
so
that
maybe
suggestions
around
barrier,
installation,
vegetation,
management,
and
what
removal
methods
are
available
to
them..
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
in
some
cases
additional
support
is
possible,
like
allowing
them
to
attach
their
barrier
to
an
osmp.
Fence.
language
decreases
their
costs.
and
again,,
though
those
are
all
very
site,
specific
and
just
tailored
to
the
the
conditions
that
each
individual
neighbor
is
experiencing.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
then
we
do
have
a
lot
of
communication
with
neighbors
around
management
on
the
adjacent
open
space
land,,
so
that
often
includes
site
visits
and
talking
with
them
about
whether
there
are
potential
modifications
to
grazing
or
we
management
or
irrigation.
in
many
cases,.
If
it's
a
property
that
has
a
an
agricultural
lease
on
it.,
those
conversations
include
the
lessee,
because
they
often
are
the
ones
responsible
for
those
types
of
management
on
the
properties.
D
D
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
there's
also
a
lot
of
ongoing
work
related
to
water
and
water
infrastructure..
Our
water
rights
administration
program
is
quite
busy
with
delivery
of
water,
participation
and
leadership
on
ditch,
boards,
maintenance
of
existing
ditches
and
infrastructure,,
and
then
working
on
larger
scale,,
water,,
infrastructure,
replacement
and
repair
projects.,
and
that
that's
really.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
next
slide.
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
and
then
our
agricultural
program
has
a
lot
of
ongoing
work,
of
course.
we'd
management,,
which
is
done
not
only
by
our
agricultural
staff,,
but
also
by
our
vegetation
management
staff,.
So
that
can
be
accomplished
through
mowing
our
hand,
pulling
chemical
control
on
agricultural
properties.
lots
of
times
that
is
accomplished
by
our
less
east,
in
collaboration
with
staff.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
paradox.
removals
are
ongoing.
Both
relocation
and
legal
control.,
barrier,
installation
and
maintenance
is
occurring.
throughout
the
year.
restoration
of
unleashed
lands,,
some
of
which
have
paradox,
some
of
which
don't..
So
that's
things
like
tilling,
key
line,
plowing,
administering
water,,
seating,,
planting,,
composting,
and
other
restoration,
techniques.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
a
soil
health
monitoring
system.
Wide.
is
ongoing
with
our
relatively
new
soil
health
program,
led
by
lauren
cole,,
and
that's
both
system-wide
monitoring,
as
well
as
plots
that
are
designed
on
paradeog
removal
areas
and
through
the
restoration
project
process.
After
removal.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
e
ecological
integration
with
the
agriculture
and
so
the
creation
of
stewardship
plans
for
these
lands.
Coordination
of
haynes,
schedules,
with
nesting,
birds,,
fencing
ponds
and
riparian
areas,
collaboration
with
les,,
and
that
collaboration
between
staff
on
the
ag
side,
as
well
as
the
ecological
side.
D
conf,
osmp,
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
so
tonight
we're
looking
at
a
a
relatively
small
piece
of
the
overall
prairie
dog
management
and
conservation
puzzle..
So
our
recommendations.,
although
they
do
address
a
number
of
things,
they
they
don't
address
the
vast
majority
of
the
plants
and
policies
that
we
have
in
place
regarding
paradox
management
and
conservation..
So
things
like
the
charter,,
the
master
plan,
that
wildlife
protection
ordinance
from
2,005
and
then.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
some
of
our
pretty
dog
plans
like
the
grassland
legal
system
management
plan
and
the
periodic
working
group
recommendations..
Certainly
this
work
stems
from
the
agricultural
management
plan.,
but
we're
not
talking
about
any
specific
modifications
to
that.
Plan.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
we're
we
really
aren't
dipping
into
our
pride
on
conservation,
goals,
or
our
our
management
of
non
irrigated
agricultural
lands
and
native
grasslands..
So
what
we
are
looking
at,
though,
is
those
areas
where
we're
seeking
to
reuse,
conflict
between
paradox
and
irrigated
agricultural
use
on
osmp
land.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
second
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
and
so
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
since
2,020.
We
have
done
159
acres
of
relocation
since
2,020,,
and
this
does
include
the
acres
that
will
have
been
completed
this
year
in
2,023..
So
these
will
be
totals..
After
this
removal
season,
we
will
have
completed
314
acres
of
lethal
control,
and
that's
actually
from
21
to
23.
D
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
next
slide.,
so
just
a
quick
process.
Review.
obviously,
we've
been
talking
with
you
over
the
last
several
months.,
so
you've
heard
a
lot
of
this
several
times,,
and
so
I
apologize
for
that.
we've
discussed
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
this
evaluation
at
our
annual
public
meeting
last
december..
We
provide
a
background
on
the
current
management
in
our
may
memo
to
the
open
space
board,
and
then
information
on
the
analysis
and
potential
modifications
in
our
june
memo..
So
last
month.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
then
a
notification
email
was
sent
out
to
interested
constituents
on
june
ninth,
and
was
posted
online
on
june
fourteenth..
And
then
tonight
we
have
a
public
hearing
with
a
full
memo
and
hopefully
resulting
in
a
board
recommendation
at
the
end
of
the
night.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):,
so
why
are
we
reevaluating
that??
Why
are
we
bothering
to
do
this??
A
lot
of
these
changes
actually
exist
within
the
framework
of
implementation
within
the
direction
that
we've
received
from
city
council?,
not
all
of
it..
But
why
are
we
looking
at
all
of
this?
and
really
it
just
comes
down
to
a
commitment
by
the
department
and
by
staff
to.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
complete
this
program
in
the
best
way
possible
to
have
the
most
success..
So
it
we
it's
really
being
done
because
we
have
a
commitment
to
adaptive.
Management.
we've
learned
some
lessons.
Over
the
last
3
years,
we've
learned
what
works
well,,
what
may
not
work
quite
as
well,
and
what
what
we
might
do.
Differently.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
a
commitment
to
remove
prey
dogs
when
conditions
and
resources
allow
for
restoration
to
irrigated
agriculture
and
exclusion
of
prairie
dogs
after
removal.,
a
commitment
to
transparency
and
being
clear
with
the
public
and
the
board
about
how
we're
making
decisions
around
removal
and
restoration.
and
what
information
is
being
considered
by
staff
in
that
process..
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
next
slide,
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
as
a
lot
of
the
program
has
worked
quite
well,
and
we're
not
recommending
any
modifications
to
it.
we're
not.
we're
not
suggesting
that
the
focus
will
shift
off
of
irrigated
agricultural
lands
on
osmp.
we're
not
suggesting
a
change
to
the
scale
of
annual
removals..
We
found
that
that
scale
is,
although
doable
is.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
aggressive.,
so
we're
we're
not
suggesting
that
a
different
scale
for
that,
using
a
use
of
barriers
to
continue
to
protect
removal
areas
which
functions
to
reduce
ongoing
lethal
control,
which
is
consistent
with
the
the
city's
wildlife,
protection,
ordinance,
and
priorities
around
that.
The
the
use
of
the
prioritization
factors
that
we're
in
discuss
with
the
board
and
city
council
in
2,020,
to
be
the
selection
criteria
for
which
properties
to
manage
in
each
year.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
to
continue
to
present
all
planned
management
to
the
community
and
collect
feed
public
feedback
in
december,
prior
to
finalizing
plans
for
the
year,
and
to
present
those
management
plans
to
the
open
space
board
in
january
and
february,
and
then
following
up
within
it
to
city.
Council.-.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
it's
fine.,
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
So
now
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
tory
for
several
of
the
recommendations.
we're
just
going
to
to
read
them,
so
that
everybody
knows
exactly
what
the
recommendation,
says.
Some
of
them,
we've
got
a
little
bit
more
clarifying
information
about..
So
she
just
quickly
go
through
those.
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
if
I'm
sorry,
pull
in
the
prairie
dog,
a
call,,
just
the
smp,,
so
yeah,
moving
into
our
recommended
modifications.,
these
are
based
on
lessons.
We've
learned
over
the
last
3
years
of
implementing
and
trying
to
reduce
prey
on
conflict
on
irrigated
agricultural,
lands.
and
we'd
expect
these
notations
will
help
to
make
our
program
more
efficient..
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
first
off,
item,
a
we're
proposing
an
evaluation
system
that
describes
properties
based
on
individual
characteristics,,
the
challenges
of
opportunities
that
they
present.
and
that's
not
only
for
pride
of
removal,
but
also
erecting
barriers,
restoration.
and
then
any
other
ecological
issues
that
may
be
present.
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
It's
not
intended
to
replace
or
supersede
those
priorities..
They
will
remain
in
place.
rather..
This
system
will
organize
information.
This
is
available
across
work
groups
and
on
a
site
by
site
basis..
So
it's
gonna
allow
better
tracking
and
communication
about
conditions
on
these
properties
that
affect
our
management
decisions..
This
evaluation
system
is
important
to
point
out
that
it's
descriptive.
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
prior
to
removals
may
happen
from
any
category
within
the
system.
and
we'll
talk
about
the
categories
in
the
next
slide.,
and
that
goes
back
to
this
prioritization
criteria
identified
in
2,020
and
other
factors
are
related
to
likelihood
of
sas
or
removal
and
based
on
available
resources.,
so
ultimately,.
This
doesn't
really
represent
any
change
from
what
we've
been
doing
in
the
next
slide.
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
This
ranges
from
the
group
a
properties
that
are
considered
ready
to
go
and
don't
need
any
additional
modifications
prior
to
removal
of
parry
dogs
and
restoration
goes
through
group
b
and
c
properties
that
have
increasing
needs
for
investment
of
effort
and
resources
to
return
them
to
agricultural
production
and
beyond.
Just
pre-dog
removal,.
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
most
challenging
of
the
group,
deep
properties
where
there's
conditions
or
restoration
of
irrigated
agriculture
is
really
unlikely
in
the
near
future..
In
some
cases,
these
conditions
for
the
group
d
properties
might
be
permanent,
and
may
make
the
property
a
candid
candidate
for
a
change
in
management
designation..
But
for
most
of
these
properties
we
expect
we
expect
these
conditions
can
change
once
needs,
for
things
like
irrigation,
infrastructure.
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
do
want
to
emphasize
for
this
table
of
of
grouping
of
properties..
We
do
already
use
this
information.
within
this
valuation
system,
for
our
management
process
and
the
decision
making
the
system
itself
is
a
new
way
to
improve
communication
among
staff
and
make
it
fail.
the
information
available
and
transparent
to
the
open
space
board
and
the
community.
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
conflict
on
irritable
agricultural
lands..
This
is
expanded
beyond
the
originally
identified
northern
project
area
to
system-wide
for
any
irrigated
properties.
you're,
good
agricultural
properties
that
are
designated
as
transition
and
removal
areas..
This
would
allow
us
to
address
address
prior
dog
impacts
elsewhere
in
the
system
or
the
scale
of
the
issue,,
maybe
still
relatively
small..
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
It
is
part
of
the
spatial
expansion..
We
also
recommend
that
the
existing
borough
disturbance,
ordinance
be
replaced,
or
the
first
will
be
replaced
to
allow
for
the
service
to
a
depth
of
6
inches
up
to
12
inches
prior
notification
on
osmp.
irrigated
agricultural
properties.
C
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
most
of
the
properties
plan
for
prey.
dog
removal
would
still
be
in
that
northern
project
area
and
most
places
where
we
actually
end
up.
Removing
parade
dogs
will
be
within
the
northern
project
area..
But
the
proportion
of
within
the
northern
project
area
and
elsewhere
in
the
system
would
vary
year
to
year,
based
on
conditions.
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
item
c,.
We
recommend
that
osmp
purchase,
equipment
and
add
staffing
so
that
we
can
do
leave
the
control
barrier,
maintenance
and
other
related
tasks
in
house
rather
than
using
contractors
as
to
require
addition
of
a
fixed
term
position,
and
one
or
2
temporary
crew
members,
but
can
be
paid
for
with
incurred
and
currently
budgeted
expense.
C
C
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
If
receiving
sites
are
not
available,,
then
relocation
is
not
going
to
be
possible,
and
we
would
need
to
explore
alternative
removal
options
such
as
trap
and
donate
to
conservation,
related
programs
like
raptor
rehabilitation
or
blackfooted,
fair
recovery.
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
for
item
e,.
We
we
we,,
we
need
to
identify
funding
and
capacity
to
address
irrigation
infrastructure
needs
prior
to
planning
prior
to
removal..
So
some
of
these
irrigation
issues
are
complex
enough..
They
can't
just
be
completed
as
part
of
the
restoration
process
after
prior
dogs,
removed.
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
benefit
addressing
these
irrigation
needs
would
also
be
that
that
would
serve
to
change
what
group.
The
property
is
characterized
with
in
that
table
that
I
discussed
a
couple
of
slides
ago..
That
demonstrates
how
those
are
reflecting
current
conditions
on
properties,,
and
we
can
track
that
in
that
system..
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
Any
changes
would
only
be
applied,
based
on
permanent
conditions,
on
a
property
such
as
being
permanently
severed
from
water
rights
or
ability
to
deliver
water.
in
this
no
change
to
be
made..
If
conditions
could
change,
such
as
simply
being
in
need
of
repairing
water
delivery,
systems.
C
C
C
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
finally,
the
glass
grassland
plan
does
allow
for
removal
of
paradox
from
irrigated
fields,,
regardless
of
that
management
designation..
So
a
change
in
the
management
designation
does
not
necessarily
preclude
removal
of
prairie
dogs
from
irrigated
fields.
If
the
need
should
arise.
C
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
based
on
the
direction
that
we
were
given
by
city
council
in
2,020,
with
the
exception
of
the
expansion
of
the
geographic
scope
outside
of
that
northern
project
area..
So
we
do
have
2
pieces
to
this..
One
is
a
recommendation
to
staff
from
the
board,
and
another
would
be
a
recommendation
to
city
council.
D
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
our
next
steps
tonight
we'll
be
talking
about
recommendations
from
osbt,
and
once
we
receive
those,,
we'll
begin
efforts
to
implement
the
modifications
in
2,024,,
and
some
of
that
will
be
things
that
we
will
start
in
2,023..
If
we
are
going
to
bring
that
work
in-house,
we
do
have
the
approval
to
go
ahead
and
hire
that
position.
to.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
staff
will
then
bring
the
the
necessary
few
items
that
I
just
mentioned.
to
city
council
likely
in
the
fall,.
Although
we'll
need
to
determine
that
date.
to
talk
with
them.
staff
will
then
present
the
modifications
and
the
refined
plans
for
implementation
at
the
at
the
public.
December.
annual
paradox
update,
meeting.
D
A
A
A
K
K
K
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
fence
line,
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
because
it
wasn't
necessarily
for
osmp
purposes,
again..
Maybe
I'm
getting
open
up
the
leads.,
and
I
would
just
like
to
put
it
out
there
that
I
think
managing
prairie,
dogs,
and
and
their
movement.
K
K
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
think
it's
fully
within
our
mission
and
anyway,.
I
just
that's
my
question.,
it's
kind
of
more
of
a
statement.,
but
a
little
bit
of
clarification..
I
I
think
we
do
have
direction
from
city
council
to
use
open
space
resources
in
that
way..
The
details
are
around
how
to
structure
the
program.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
that
it
fits
within
the
approval
that
we've
received
from
city
council
to
do
that,
as
well
as
questions
around
making
it
equitable
and
accessible
to
all
neighbors..
So
those
are
the
things
that
we've
been
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office
on..
I
I
don't
think
it's
accurate
to
say
that
it's
parked
in
the
city,
attorney's
office.,
we've
gone
through
several
iterations
of
of.
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
dan,.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
that
a
little
bit.?
I
I
I
I
mean,.
I
think
the
best
that
we
can
do
at
this
point
is
commit
to
providing
you
with
a
written
update
within
the
maybe
by
the
september
meeting..
Do
you
think
that
would
be
reason?
you're,
the
ones
on
the
front
lines
working
with
all
the
departments
that
are
involved
in
this.?
You
think
by
us
updating
the
board
in
september
through
ready,
memoir
of
the
status.
and
then,
yeah,.
D
K
K
K
A
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
yeah,,
and
I
I
definitely
understand
that,
and
5
years
does
seem
like
a
long
time
that
the
pre-dug
working
recommendations
were
extremely
extensive,
and
so
a
phase
implementation
plan
was
presented
to
council,
and
it
would
have
been
2,019,.
I
think,
by
that
time,.
Although
we
don't
remember
the
exact
date.,
that
phase
implementation
plan
included
creation
of
tories
position,
and
hiring
tory
in
2,020
right?.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
then
we
began
the
face
implementation
that
we
had
laid
out
with
city
council.-
so
it
does
seem
like
a
long
time..
Throughout
that
time
we
have
been
working
on
a
variety
of
those
recommendations..
We've
completed
a
plague
management
plan,,
the
relocation
all
fit
within
that
framework.,
and
so
it's
not
that
nothing's
been
happening
in
the
last
5
years..
D
H
H
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
to
is
the
are
we
basically
going
to
be
working
at
the
same
scale
that
we
did
when
we
had
contractors,
or
we're
going
to
take
this
in
house
and
kind
of
get
good
at
it
and
get
more
efficient,?
And
maybe
after
6
months,
or,,
you
know,?
Is
there
going
to
be
some
kind
of
ramp
up
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
to
to
work
on
more
acres
over
time.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
think
that
that's
our
intention,,
but
I
would
clarify
that
a
little
bit,,
because
it's
really
a
trifecta
of
actions
that
all
need
to
happen
in
concert
with
each
other,,
which
is
the
removal,,
the
restoration,
and
the
barrier
installation..
And
so
what
we're
having
to
balance
is.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
a
place
where
it.
it
may
take
years
to
be
in
in
agricultural
production,,
but
where
it's
being
irrigated,
where
it's
vegetated,,
where
we're
likely
to
be
able
to
keep
parade
out
from
moving
back
in..
So
what
we
really
want
to
avoid
is
doing
a
whole
lot
of
leaf
of
control
without
the
ability
to
do
the
follow
up
actions
that
are
necessary
to
actually
move
us
towards
success
in
restoring
irrigated
agricultural.
H
H
H
H
C
B
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
we
do
all
of
that,.
We
need
someone
that
you
know
is
actually
going
to
be,,
you
know,
overseen,
the
property
that
that's
right.
and-
and
that
makes
a
huge
difference,,
because
a
lot
of
that
restoration,
then,
can
be
done
by
them.
Lots
of
times.,
it's
just
to
properties
that
they're
currently
irrigating..
So
the
transition
back
into
full
irrigation
is
sometimes
more
smooth..
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
you
know.
and,
and
that's
part
of,
what's
happened
over
the
last
3
years.
Is
we've
addressed
a
lot
of
those
properties
in
the
northern
project
area
that
our
least
are
adjacent
to
already
functioning,
irrigated
agricultural
land..
So
you
know,
the
areas
around.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
situations.,
you
know..
Some
of
the
properties
that
we
have
not
yet
addressed
are
in
a
very
different
situation
than
that,
and
so
getting
the
infrastructure
up
to
where
it
needs
to
be
getting
the
restoration
done
to
get
that
property
into
shape,
where
we'd
be
able
to
have
a
lesy.
Take
over..
It's
it's
just
gonna.
D
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
If
we're
on
a
even
slope,
conf
osmp
hub,
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
a
relatively
consistent
stand,,
we
may
be
able
to
do
a
a
thinning
project
of
200
acres
in
a
given
year..
If
we're
the
same
amount
of
capacity
and
resources
are
filled
to
a
steep
slope,
situation.
H
H
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large
conf
14):,
but
I
would
say
that
bringing
that
capacity
and
house
part
of
that
is
a
cost.
Saving,
measure,
and
part
of
it
is
certainly
to
have
increased
capacity,.
Not
only
for
doing
those.
Removals,
we've
had
a
hard
time
with
contractor
availability.,
and
so
some
removal
to
actually
taken
into
the
next
year
to
complete
plan
for
22
weren't
actually
completed
until
that
early
23.,
so
hopefully,
we'll
get
away
from
that.
D
K
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
that's
an
interesting
question..
We
actually
have
never
been
asked.,
so
that's
never
been
tested,
because
I'm
just
wondering
if
if,
if
the,
if
the
threshold
is
notification.
but
there's
no
there's
no
scenario
which
the
city
would
say,
no.,
why
don't
we
just
say
12
inches,
and
then
just
make
it
simple
and
just
be
done
with
it.
because,
you
know,.
I
I
talked
to
somebody
who's.
A
pre
dog
advocate.
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and-
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
this
person.,
but
this
person
said,
listen,
we're
not
going
to
be
decapitating
prairie
docs
at
12
inches,
and
if
they
get
buried
they're
going
to
dig
them
on
their
way,
out.
they
they
can.,
they
can
handle
it..
And
so
I
just
wonder
if
we
can
just
simplify
the
the
policy
and
just
the.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
12
inches
in
the
presence
of
prairie
dogs,,
because
once
for
they
can
you
do
whatever
you
want?,
but
this
in
the
presence
of
prairie..
I
mean,
this
is,.
I
just
wonder
if
we
can
simplify
the
fault.
and
why
are
we
asking
people
to
tell
us
when
they're
going
to
12,.
K
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
community
members
who
become
concerned
when
they
think
that
prairie
docs
have
been
control
someplace,
where
they
didn't
know
that
they
were
going
to
be
controlled
and
sometimes
plowing
to
12
inches
and
look
like..
That's
what
we
know.
What's
happening.,
we
can
look
at
the
situation.,
the
the
other
thing
is,.
We
do
want
to
avoid
situations
where
we
might
have
other
sensitive
species
within
that
paradox.
Colony.
that
12
inches
might
impact.
D
D
C
K
K
K
A
K
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf,
14):
well,,
I
mean,
I
think,
within
our,
you
know,,
you've,
you've
seen
the
24
budget,
and
we'll
be
going
through
a
a
similar
process
for
25
where,,
you
know,,
all
of
the
departments,
needs
are,
are
discussed
and
and
prioritized,
and
and
if
additional
new
funding
is
needed,
some
place,
you
know..
We
see
where
that
fits
within
the
picture..
So
I
think,
as
far
as
timing,.
That
would
be
something
that
I
would
be
working
with
handy
and
our
new
water
resource.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
evaluation
of
properties
that
we've
done,
and
deep
deeper
on
some
of
those
properties
to
really
figure
out.
okay,.
The
infrastructure
needs
a
lot
of
help.
now,.
What
exactly
does
that
mean?
and
what
are
our
estimates
that
we
can
put
together
a
multi
year
plan
of
how
we
would
like
to
address
that
on
those
properties.,
so
that
would
then
inform
our.
D
D
D
D
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
think
we
spent
almost
$600,000
in
the
cfp.
alone
over
the
last
3
or
4
years,
just
on
maintaining
it..
I
think
this
is
a
a
transparency
issue.
that
we
wanted
to
call
this
particular
issue
out
is
sometimes
before
we
can
do
a
removal,.
We
have
to
make
that
investment.,
so
it
was
one
way
of.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
calling
out
a
particular
item
that
maybe
wasn't,
as
highlighted
in
the
2,027
recommendations
that
we
wanted
to
call
out..
It
was
also
kind
of
a
call
out
internally
to
staff,
saying,
hey,.
We
need
to
really
be
coordinated
here
that
you
may
think
that
head
gate
needs
to
be
replaced
over
there..
But
if
it's
a.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):,
if
we're
trying
to
weigh
whether
we
place
that
head
gate
or
replace
this
infrastructure,
that's
related
to
this
program..
Maybe
we
look
to
that
for
the
next
year
rather
than
and
wait
on
that..
So
it's
also
a
call
on
to
our
staff
to
work
closely
on
aligning
our
needs
on
that
and.
A
A
A
A
A
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
period
before
we
have
at
least
see,.
We
are
the
managers
of
it,
and
we
do
need
to
run
the
water,
and
we
have
instances
where
we
are
running
the
water
ourselves.
I.
the
ideal
condition
is
to
bring
in
that
right..
We
see
it
is
that
we're
not
right
at
the
grow
crops
or
anything
we're
running
it
to,
you
know,,
maintain
a
vegetative
cover,
or
to
restore
with
the
whole
set
in
your
3
road,
right?
crafts,
where
it
is
restoration
and
the
net
culture.
yeah,.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
so.
we're
one
of
them.
well,,
so
I
mean,
for
instance,
open
space
staff
are
not
harvesting
crops.
Right?
we're
we're
not
paying
properties.
we're.
Not
so
at
the
point
that
a
that
a
property
is
ready
to
support.
you
know,
an
actual
production
of
crops..
It's
probably
then
ready
for
our,
you
know,
to
go
through
our
leasing
process
to
identify.,
because
you're
right,
that
that's
exactly
where
we
want
to
be.
our
our
water
resources.
staff.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
does
a
lot
of
irrigation,,
some
of
which
is
necessary
because
it's
it's
out
of
agricultural
land.,
but
certainly
on
those
properties
that
are
are
producing
profitable
agricultural
crops..
Our
model
is
that
we
have
less..
I
think
a
good
example
is
before
dan
buried
the
the
vehicle
out
of
the
field
trip.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
instantly
up
here.,
but
that
probably
was
it
was
being
restored
very
to
be
irrigated
by
open,
space.,
right?,
absolutely.
and
and
that's
the
process
of
getting
it,.
You
know,
and
part
of
the
the
conversation
in
2,020
is
that
one
of
the
goals
of
the
program
is
to
move
unleashed
properties
back
into
a
leisable
condition.
D
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Jon
carroll
(he/him):
yeah,.
I
I
appreciate
all
the
thought
and
time
that's
been
put
into
this
presentation.
and
that
staff
has
put
into
listening
to
the
community
also
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
brady,
who's
done
a
great
job
immersing
himself
in
prairie,
dog
and
prairie
dog
issues.
You've
you've
done
an
awesome
job.
Having
only
been
here
a
couple
of
months,
just
really
wrapping
your
head
around
this
issue.,
and
I
I
appreciate
the
effort
you
put
into
that.
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
You
can
raise
your
hand
using
the
function
on
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
or
by
cooking
on
participants
and
then
selecting
it
from
there,,
and
we
don't
have
anyone
joining
by
phone.
So
to
start
us
off
for
public
comment,,
we'll
start
with
elizabeth
black,,
followed
by
lynn,
siegel,
and
then
andy,
brighter.
M
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P
P
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Andy
breiter:
of
a
piece
issue,
which
is
the
role
urban
interface,
that
we
live
in,
that
historic
landscape.
That
lin
was
talking
about..
There
didn't
have
tech,
centers
and
subdivisions
that
intersected
all
our
properties.,
so
that
makes
it
a
very
difficult
issue
for
osmp
to
be
able
to
manage
these
lands.
P
P
P
P
P
Andy
breiter:-
and
I
say
again
that
a
lot
of
that
work
is
done
because
of
private
citizen
funding..
So
I'm
concerned,
as
you
start
to
categorize
the
projects,,
to
see
coexistence
with
buried
off,,
which
I
do
think
is
possible
overall..
We
must
understand
that.
There's
a
lot
of
resources
that
need
to
go
into
those
projects.
P
P
Andy
breiter::
I
do
think
that
the
deeper
that
you
can
go
with
it
actually
makes
that
implement
more
effective,
and
that
3
inches,
which
what
we're
currently
allowed
is
pretty
much
ineffective.
As
the
use
of
that
tool.
6
inches
will
start
to
make
that
tool
more
effective.,
but
it
is
really
a
12
to
18
inch
tool.
P
Q
Paula
shuler:
hi,.
I
would
like
to
comment
tonight
on
some
of
staff's
modifications
and
ask
you
to
make
changes
to
their
proposed
recommendations..
This
is
a
bit
of
a
challenge,,
because
staff
has
lumped
separate
items
together
in
a
few
of
their
recommendations..
In
several
cases,
I
would
agree
with
a
part
of
the
recommendation.
Q
Paula
shuler:,
but
I
believe
osbt
needs
to
modify
the
other
part..
In
my
opinion,
it
would
be
harmful
for
agriculture
and
boulder
county,
and
this
program
for
osbt
to
rubber
stamp
these
recommendations
as
they
are.
Written.
staff
has
started
evaluating
properties
based
on
priority
tiers,,
categories.
and
now
characteristics,,
which
is
it?.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Paula
shuler:
osmp
needs
to
increase
lethal
control
to
200
acres
per
year,,
and
there
is
no
reason
they
cannot
do.
That.
osmp
could
easily
treat
all
of
category.
a
outside
the
project
area
as
well
as
125
acres
inside
the
northern
project
area
and
in-house
crews,.
Not
contractors,
will
make
this
absolutely
possible
in
house.
Crews
should
also
be
building
barriers.
Q
Paula
shuler:
finally,,
I'm
very
much
against
changing
any
of
the
designations
for
any
parcel..
It
is
way
too
early
in
the
process.,
the
removal,,
transition,
and
moas,
and
the
northern
project
area
are
almost
all
agricultural
lands
of
statewide
importance..
They
receive
this
designation
because
of
their
water,
soil,
quality,
and
their
importance
for
agriculture..
According
to
the
usda
farmland
of
statewide,
importance
may
include
tracks
of
plan
designated
for
agriculture
by
state
law.
Q
Q
Q
Paula
shuler:,
please
do
not
approve
all
of
the
recommendations
as
written..
Some
of
these
recommendations
are
good,,
but
several
appear
to
counteract
what
this
entire
project
was.
Created,
for
the
project
is
supposed
to
be
healing
agricultural
lands,,
not
adding
more
acres
of
prairie
dogs.
ospt
needs
to
provide
guidance,
and
staff
needs
to
do
another
revision
and
value
agriculture
over
prairie
dogs.
thank
you.
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Kevin
markey:
to
wait.,
weeds
and
erosion
must
be
effectively
managed
on
all
osmp
agricultural
properties..
We
recently
saw
osmp
mowing
weeds
on
benefit
steel.,
as
suzanne
has
mentioned,.
This
is
the
first
time
we've
seen
this
in
years,
we
pray.
it
was
not
merely
a
cynical
move
to
look
good
in
the
face
of
a
plan
field
trip.
S
S
S
S
Kevin
markey:
there
are
several
proposals
are
unacceptable,
within,
without
timelines
and
specific
goals.
geographic
expansion
of
the
program
is
unacceptable
without
a
commitment
that
most
of
the
control
efforts
be
concentrated
in
the
northern
program
area
and
without
increasing
leave
a
lethal
control
to
200
acres
per
year..
S
S
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T
T
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Jonathan
moore:,
I'm
speaking
kind
of
one
as
a
concerned:
neighbor
citizen,
first,,
wholeheartedly,,
100%
support
endorse
the
comments
made
by
subject
matter:
experts.,
elizabeth,
black
and
paula,
sure
and
wholeheartedly
endorse
the
comments
you
guys
are
hearing
and
have
visited
with,.
You
know
kevin
markey,,
suzanne
weble,
among
others.
T
T
Jonathan
moore:,
I
have
basically
protected
ag
lands,
working
landscapes,
water,
rights,,
scenic
quarters,,
historic
landscapes,
threatened
endangered
species.
as
a
director.,
burke
knows,,
you
know,,
it's
it's
a
world
where
you
spend
time
between
private
land
or
cities,
county
states,,
national
entities,,
and
you
find
ways
to
come
up
with
solutions.
T
T
T
Jonathan
moore:
and
that's
obviously,
what
you've
heard
from
this
northern
group
of
people
on
is,.
You
know,
we're
just
asking
you
guys
to
be
good.
Neighbors.
we've
been
working
in
spending
time,,
money,
and
resources,
you
know,.
Every
year
after
year,
all
of
us
started
with
rough
properties,
and
we've
worked
to
improve
them.
T
T
Jonathan
moore:,
that's
you
know.!
It's
a
kind
of
simple
land
ethic,
jonathan
moore:,
just
because
it's
hard,
just
because
it's
expensive,
you
know,,
doesn't
give
you
the
ability
to
reclassify
these
lands
to
shift
the
priorities.
you
know,,
ben,
and
still
did
have
irrigation
on
them..
You
already
lost
one
good
tenant
on
there,
and
another
one
arguably,,
perhaps
not.,
but
you
know
you've
had
2
tenants
that
have
walked
away
from
that
property..
It's
a
it's
a
weed,
infested
mess.!
It's
embarrassing
to
walk
by
that
property,
and
you
all
should
do
it.
If
you
haven't.
T
T
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A
V
V
V
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Andie
young:
the
answers
and
the
needs
that
you
have,,
like
andie
young:
young
farmers,
irrigating
and
working
the
land.
as
a
transgender,
queer,
disabled
farmer..
I
like
to
sometimes
point
the
ship
to
focus
in
the
power,
and
oftentimes.
It
can
be
the
people
that
are
most
affected
by
a
problem
that
have
some
of
the
best
solutions
to
offer.
V
V
V
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
said
it,,
it
would
be
so.
it's
something
that
we
do
already
with
you.
acquisitions,
new
colonies
when
conditions
change
on
a
colony.,
that's
kind
of
ongoing
process
as
conditions
change..
We
have
said
that
if
there
were
properties
where
the
conditions
have
changed
permanently
from
what
they
were
when
their
original
designation
was
given
that
we
might
take
a
look
at
those,
and
if
we
had
proposals
for
those,,
we
would
present
them
to
the
public.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
so
that
looks
like
capturing
the
conditions
on
the
property
and
just
running
back
through
the
criteria
and
restoring
the
criteria
for
the
property
that
was
done
at
the
time.
Those
recommendations
come
to
the
board.
or
is
that
a
a
staff
decision??
That
would
be
a
staff
decision?,
but
we've
definitely
committed
that
would
present
those
to
the
public
as
proposals
at
the
annual
meeting,
and
then
bring
that
to
and
collect
public
feedback,
and
then
bring.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
the
proposal,
and
that
feedback
to
the
board
for
board
feedback
in
the
annual
parade.
it'd
be
a
recommendation
back
to.
If
you
had
feedback
or
recommendation
back
to
staff,
right?,
but
the
we
would
be
changing.
The
policy.
we'd
just
be
implementing
the
how
it
works.
H
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
don't
want
to
say
community
engagement,,
because
that
that
has
a,
you
know,
kind
of
an
a
already
defined
bureaucratic
meeting.,
but
mostly
it's
sitting
down
with
with
the
neighbors,
tenants
and
and
kind
of
working
through.
okay,.
Here's
what
we'll
do,
you
know.!
Can
you
do
this
or
that?.
A
A
A
A
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
all
the
motions,,
except
for
the
expansion
of
the
project.
Area,,
are
at
the
management
level,,
which
are
fluid
and
transfer,,
and
we
certainly
could
revisit
those
at
any
time.
council,
for
instance,
would
not?.
We
wouldn't
need
an
action
of
council,
right?,
so
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
being
transparent
as
possible,
saying.
H
H
H
H
A
A
A
A
D
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
the
relocation
and
removal
season.
we're
going
to
be
hiring
a
new
crew,
get
it..
We
we
we're
not
going
to
be
getting
to
any
of
this
as
far
as
management
area..
These
kind
of
follow
on
actions
later
on,,
anytime
soon..
So
I
mean,.
We
have
no
intention
to
be
proposing
any
of
those
for
24,.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
I
think
we
have
a
lot
more
fact
finding
to
do
on
those
properties,
looking
at
what
alternatives
might
exist,
what
they'll
take
to
implement.
and
you
know
where
it's
possible
or
not
possible..
So
I
think
we're
ways
off
from
that.
that
that
one
particular
thing
I
mean
some
of
these..
Our
intention
is
absolutely
to
implement
them
in
2,024.
A
K
A
A
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
there's
not
surprises,
or
when
there
are,,
there's
recourse.,
and
so
I
was
just
thinking,
you
know,,
there's
one
of
the
themes.
here
is
a
lack
of
trust,
is
in
in,
suzanne,
said.
wow!.
It
almost
felt
miraculous
that
it
was
mode
to
the
extent
that
she
wonders
a
little
bit
in
the
back
of
her
mind
was
not
for
the
benefit
of
this.
K
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
I
think
if,
if
we,
if
one
of
our
things
we're
trying
to
embody
as
well
as
a
land
or
as
an
entity
as
being
a
good
neighbor.,
then
we
would
put
some..
I
can't
tell
you
how
to
do
it,,
but
there'd
be
some
mechanism
in
place
where
suzanne
and
everyone
else
would
know.
K
K
A
K
K
K
A
K
K
K
K
K
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
we're
still
tired
and
cross-site..
Try
to.
you
know,
redraft,
something..
I
just
wonder
if
if
in
this
case
we
need
another
by
the
apple.,
maybe
there's
parts
of
of
the
proposed..
Maybe
it's
the
maybe
it's
the
the
expansion
of
the
of
the
management
area..
Maybe
that's
something
that's
important.,
but
I
wonder.
K
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
I
just
don't
think
we've
had
enough
time..
I
certainly
haven't
to
incorporate
and
think
deeply
about
these
thoughtful
comments
and
feedback
that
we've
gotten.
and
if
this
is
highly
unusual
recommendation,
you
know,
again,,
I'm
I'm
a
fairly
new
here,,
but
just
an
observation.
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A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
true
or
not.,
but
that's
what
we
here,
and
I
much
prefer
here
in
the
city.
Does
this
much
better
than
you
know
than
anyone
else.?
And
so
how
can
we
get
to
that
point?
Where,
you
know,
people
are
saying,.
You
know,!
It's
really
good
that
you
know,
to
work
with
city,
because,,
you
know,.
They.
A
I
I
I
I
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
hunting?,
conf,
osmp,
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
what's
been
asked
for
us.
and
what
we've
building
up
been
building
up
toward
the
last
several
months,
is,
or
or
because
we
have
a
a
recommendation:
here,
one
that
is
really
a
management
recommendation.
and
then
a
second
one.
That's
going
to
council.-
it
sounds
like
we
have
agreement
on
number
2.
I
I
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
yes,
it.,
it
sounds
like
we
are
in
agreement
with
all
of
it,,
except
for
communication..
Is
that
right?
is
it??
Is
there
a
compromise?
and
where
we
could
add
a
g
not
like
totally.,
but
you
know,
like
edit
this
whole
thing,,
but
have
some
our
our
recommendation
to
staff
to
meet
with.
I
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
differs
from
conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large
conf
14):
from
that..
What
what's
happening??
I
think
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt
through
you
or
other.,
but
I
I
think
we
must
be
talking
past
each
other
something,,
because
when,
when
I
you
know,,
I
just
say
we
talk
to
the
neighbors..
They
don't.
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
know,
hearing
from
them.,
and
so
that's
what
I
think
we're
trying
to
do
is
say,
okay,.
How
can
we?
best,
you
know,
kind
of
get
this
this
group.
and
I'm
including,,
you
know,
the
department
and
and
neighbors
and
tenants
together
to
have
you
know
better
or
more
effective,
conversations.
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Jon
carroll
(he/him):
I'll
jump
in
here..
I
I
I
would
kind
of..
I
like
the
approach
that
dan
is
proposing..
You
know
I
would
hate
to
kick
the
can
down
the
road
here
like
I.
I
don't
want
perfect
to
be
the
enemy
of
good.
right?,
like
community
members,
talks
about
all
the
things
they're
excited
about
with
this
plan
and
the
things
that
are
positive.
Around
us,
bringing,,
you
know,
a
team
and
house
to
help
control
this.
N
Jon
carroll
(he/him):,
you
know,
and
the
other
positive
things
that
you
know
we're
feeling
good
around
right
in
this
plan..
So
to
kick
the
can
down
the
road.,
not
do
something
tonight,
you
know,
and
move.
This
forward
feels
like
the
wrong
thing,,
because
I
think
we
all.
We
all
want
the
same
thing
here
right?
and
are
there
ways
we
could
improve??
You
know
how
we're
working
with
neighbors
and
neighbor
relations
in
the
future.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
okay?
thanks.
thank
you.,
john.
yeah.,
I
think,.
Haven't
you
make
good
point,
like,
we're
kind
of
conflicting
some
things
like
there's,
neighbor,
relations,
real
large
are
part
of
that.,
but
it's
a
bigger
issue..
I
hear
what
you're
saying.
it's
like,.
Does
that
really.
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
some
bigger,
and
I
think
it
is..
I
think
your
recommendation
is
great,
that
you
know.,
but
if
it
were
up
to
me,
my
policy
directions
be
a
good
neighbor
like..
What
that
means
for
us.
I
don't
know
idea.
but,,
like,,
like,
dave
said,
we're
talking
back
to
each
other,
like
we
just
don't
have
same
versions
of
reality,
and,
of
course
that's
never
possible..
But
if,
if
we
could
get
to
a
point
where.
K
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
at
8
pm.
and
then
rewrite
the
bill
and
then
pass
it
at
11..
They
just
don't
do
that.,
and
so
I
feel
a
little
bit
like
that's
what
we're
doing.
you
know,.
It's
like.
We
got
all
this
input.
Like,
yes,
john's
point
is
well
taken..
There's
some
things.
We
totally
agree.
On.
K
K
K
K
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
require
another
bite
out
the
apple.,
and
if
that
is
yeah,,
that's
that
was
just
my..
So
I
think
there
are
some
substantial
things
with
the
with
the
prairie
dog
specific
issue..
The
people
brought
up
that.
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
resolve
it
right
now.,
but
that
was
my.
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K
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H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
come
to
the
community
in
december,,
get
their
feedback,
and
they
come
to
you
all..
So
that
is
what
we've
worked
over
the
last
2
or
3
years
to
put
in
place..
That's
the
work
plan
that
gets
established
for
the
next
year
versus
the
policy
that
we're
saying,,
and
I
don't
know
that.
Maybe
he's
asked
like.
I
I
A
A
A
A
D
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
It's
not
that
they're,
not
interested,,
but
you
know
it's
not
where
they're
concerned
about,,
then
they
don't
necessarily
have
to.
and
it's
related
to
the
what
we're
going
to
be
presenting
at
the
public.
yeah..
So
it's
a
preview
to
the
they've
participated
and
contributed
in
that.
there's
more
of
a
collaborative.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
so
outcome,.
I
think
a
step
that
we
would
see
as
a
staff,
right
as
it
to
do
step
would
be..
We
have
a
constituent
list,.
We
call
it
that,
and
we
use
that
list
to
form
about
this
process..
What
I'm
hearing
is,
take
a
look
at
opportunities
to
broaden
the
constituent,
list,
to.
H
A
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
anyway,.
I
think
that
would
be
more..
I
mean,
the
approach
that
we've
taken
right
now
is
very
individualized
to
the
specific
neighbor,
so
that
we
can
talk
about
specific
circumstances
on
their
property
and
adjacent
open
space
and
look
for
solutions
that
way..
You
know
this,.
This
would
be
a
very
different
kind
of
a
conversation
by
necessity,,
because
each
each
neighbor
has
individual
characteristics
or
the
landscape
that
they
live
on.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
which
don't
don't
seem
to
be
meeting
the
need.
so,
you
know.
is
it?.
Is
it
more
of
a
general
need
to
engage
with
neighbors,
and
maybe
we're
wasting
our
time
with
these
one
on
one
engagement.?
I
I
don't
know
if
I
could.
just,
I
think
we're
in
need
of
a
third
recommendation..
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
wordsmith
something
tonight.
specifically,.
I
think
you
need
to
recommend
that
staff.
go
back
and
look
at.
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
well,.
I
think
a
piece
of
it
we've
already
committed
to
coming
forth
in
september..
There
was
a
specific
piece
of
it
with
the
cost
and
program.,
so
I
think
the
other
pieces..
I
think
you
all
need
to
be
informed
with
what
our
current
policy
says
about
neighbor
relations,
right?.
So
we
could
bring
forth
those
that
you're
aware
of
what
community
groups
and
staff
have
already
developed
and
in
progress
where
we're
at
with
that
that'd
be
step,
2,
and
then
step
3
would
be
the
enhanced
an
area.
H
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
dividends
in
the
future,
and
the
work
requirement
becomes
less
as
people
get
to
know
you
and
I.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
efforts
are
focused
in
the
way
it's
probably
both..
I
initially.
that's
what
I
that's
what
I
was
going
to
say:
it.,
it's
probably
the
general
conversation
with,,
you
know,
all
the
neighbors
who
want
to
participate.
A
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
people
will
have
to
decide
how
best
to
do
that,
or
how
that
can
be
most
effective..
But
I'm
seeing
it
as
it's
more
than
just
one
meeting
prior
to
the
annual
meeting
that
you'll
probably,,
you
might
need
to,.
You
know,
engage
in,
so
that
you
do
get
the
general
conversation
with
the
neighbors,
and
then
you
are
able
to
talk
more
specifically
on.
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf,
14):
oh,.
We
have
95
neighbors
to
what
you're
speaking
to
us,
today.
yup,.
We
got
a
love
letter
from
one
of
them
about
jel.,
see,
though,.
Someone
said
that
you
removed
the
prairie
dogs,,
it
is
unbelievable,
and
there's
there's
got
to
be
a
lot
of
those
that
didn't
take
the
time
to
right..
I
didn't
know
it
was
95.
neighbors,
say,
well,,
that's
a
lot
of
neighbors.!
So
it's
nice
to
hear
that
we
do
a
good..
It's
usually
the
the
other
thing
of
the
hearing
about
that.
yeah.
K
K
H
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H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
They
have
us
day
like
that
publicly.,
that's
fine.,
we
can.
no,.
I
think
we
want
more
daily
than
that.,
so
right?
well,
this..
This
was
an
attempt
to
provide
more
daylight..
So
I
think
the
word
evaluate
may
be
confusing.
and
if
you
all
want
to
just
change
that
word,
to
describe.
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
basically
a
little
data
sheet
on
every
property
that
says,
you
know,.
Here's
in
need
to
update
it
at
whatever
period.
make
sense.
here's
roughly
how
many
prairie
dogs
are,
you
know,
occupation.,
here's
the
plan.!
He
he
laid
it
out
fairly
explicitly
in
his
email..
They
said
it
30'clock
today.,
but
it
does
that
resonate,
did
you?
all.
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
is
that
it
is
something
on
those
lines..
I
have
to
imagine
that
data
exists,
and
I
would
absolutely,,
maybe
not
at
the
level
of
detail
in
one
place,
that
he
was
talking
about.,
so
what?,
something
that
I
do
want
to
raise.
and
I
mean,
this
is
not
my
area
of
expertise,,
but
dave
will
remember
in
the
grass
that
we
had
to
talk
about.
A
lot
is
with
water
rights..
We
do
need
to
be
careful
about
committing.
D
A
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A
A
A
B
K
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
You
know
our
ability
to
get
and
use
quite
right,,
especially
when
it's
when
there
are
improvements,
plan
or
in
progress,
or
and
we're
capturing
a
status
in
time
that
that
may
not
be..
You
know
where
we're
headed.,
and
so
we
want
to
be
kind
of
careful
about
that.
A
D
A
A
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
deliver
water
to
the
property,,
and
I
I
don't
think
we
want
to
talk
about
water.,
we're
assuming
that
whatever
water
rights
are
associated
with
the
property,
are
the
water
rights..
So
it's
the
infrastructure
that
is
really
the
key..
It's
not
the
water
rights.
A
A
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):,
and
we
should
have
put
that
those
out
for
us
elsewhere.,
the
infrastructure,
though,
is
the
delivery.
System,
and
that's
been.
That
seems
to
be.
The
key
issue.
Is
the
delivery
system
added
with
enough
to
deliver.
yes,
and
now
there
are
some
of
these
properties
that
do
not
have
water.
A
D
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
potentially.,
I
I
don't
know
the
nuances
of
those
property
by
property.
That
would
be
part
of
what
we're
digging
into
is
the
exact
conditions
on
those
I
mean..
Some
of
those
situations
have
happened
in
that
too
distant
past..
Some
of
those
have
been
the
situation
for
a
long
time.,
so
some
of
those
are
going
to
require
digging
back
into
water
records
and
that
that
kind
of
thing
that's
going
to
take..
How
do
you
make
those
decisions?.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
well,.
We
we
have
a
water
administration
program
and
so
that
program
lead
is
keeping
an
eye
on
the
water
rights.
and
if
there's
an
underutilized
water
right,,
that
person
would
identify
that
it's
underutilized.
and
look
and
look
at
options
to
get
it
used..
So
we
don't.
M
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
that
we
don't
lose
it,
and
that
that's
more
doable
in
some
situations
than
others..
Some
ditch
systems
allow
fairly
quick
and
easy
transfer
of
water
rights
to
another
property.
Some
properties,,
the
water
rights.
they
were
being
irrigated..
The
conditions,
like
the
soil,,
quality,
and
stuff,,
were
very
low
quality.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
conditions,,
and
there
was
within
the
same
ditch
system,
another
property
that
was
very
high,
value.
the
soil
with
the
less
c.
that
was
a
little
bit
short
on
water,,
and
so
the
decision
was
going
to
use
it
where
it
would
have
the
most
benefits..
I
mean,,
I
think
each
one's
its
own
situation,
and,,
like
I
said,
some
of
them
were
more
recent
than
others.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
some
of
them
that
actually
happen
as
part
of
the
acquisition..
So
some
of
these
are
historically
irrigated,
but
have
never
been
able
to
be
irrigated.
Since
the
properties.,
some
people
say
it
was
historically
irrigated.
commit
to
irrigating
it
again..
What
you're
saying
is,
the
world
is
changed.
K
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
I'm
sorry.
god,.
This
is
language.,
and
I
I
guess
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
if
staff,,
if
you're,
okay
with
the
language,
you
need.
we're,
probably
okay
with
I.
I'm
not
concerned
about
it
in
a
general
level
like
this.,
I
I
think
it's
more
when
we're
doing
individual
property
descriptions
where
it
would
be
a
specific
water,
right?,
a
specific
property.
D
K
A
D
A
K
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
now,
or
even
within
the
next
year.,
but
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
that
case
may
be
exist,
and
and
you
know,
in
the
interest
of
transparency..
I
would
much
rather
have
that
conversation,
and
be
very
clear
about
that.
keep
a
property
on
a
list
of
like.
well,,
maybe
we'll
get
to
it.
someday,
when
we
know.
yeah,,
where
was
that?,
was
that?.
What
category
is.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
know,,
these
are,
gonna
take
some,
some
real
focused
planning
and
efforts,,
and
probably
some
of
the
resources
identified
in
e
to
be
focused
on
them,
to
move
them
into
a
different,.
And
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
a
recommendation..
But
I
guess
what
I
heard
is.
A
K
K
H
H
H
H
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
is,.
If
we
have
a
proper
property
where
the
re
the
realities
and
the
intention
is
for
it
to
be
a
native
grassland,
and
it's
not
appropriate
for
it
to
carry
a
management
designation,
that's
tied
to
irrigate
and
agriculture,,
because
that
just.
it's
a
confusing
situation
that
makes
things
difficult
for
people
to
understand..
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
related
to
the
to
the
program
of
reducing
conflict
on
irrigated
data.,
but
we're,
I
mean,
is
it?,
but
we
did
agree
that
it
was
a
bigger
issue,
or
is
it?.
Is
it
okay
to
look.?
I
think
it's
different
issues
in
different
parts
of
the
system.
I
mean,
our
western
edge
with
neighbors
is
to
be,
you
know,
fire.,
we're
talking..
We
have
70
miles.,
that's
our
reality.!
Let's,
let's
take
this
step.
see
how
it
goes.
A
K
H
H
O
O
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
so
much.
there's
there's
some
interaction
with
neighbors.,
so
I
mean,
I'm
just
trying
to
put
sideboard..
So
we
have
something
in
in
some
way
manageable
to
be
looking
at,,
because
all
neighbor
relations
everywhere
related
to
all
open
space
management
is
the.
J
B
A
K
H
H
H
A
A
H
A
K
I
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
describe
properties
based
on
individual
characteristics,,
including
challenges
and
opportunities
for
use
in
support
of
the
prioritization
criteria.
Applied
and
selecting
management
sites
each
year
be
expand
implementation
of
the
project
beyond
the
previously
determined
northern
project
areas
to
encompass
irrigable
agricultural
properties,
system,
wide,
that
are
designated
as
transition
and
removal
areas.
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
and
replace
the
existing
borough.
disturbance
rule
to
allow
borough
disturbance
to
a
depth
of
6
inches
system
wide
or
12
inches,,
with
prior
notification
on
osmp
or
gaia.
cultural
land.
see
implement,
lethal,
control,
barrier,
maintenance,
and
other
related
tasks
in
house
by
purchasing.
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
equipment
and
adding
staff
to
complete
this
work
rather
than
by
hiring
contractors..
The
cease.
Relocation
to
the
southern
grasslands
is
directed
by
the
grassland
plan
and
less
occupation
drops
below
10%..
The
future
evaluate
alternative
alternate
receiving
sites,,
including
paradox
conservation
areas
and
receiving
sites
off
os
and
key.
K
K
K
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
number
one.
number
2
recommend
that
city
council
proves
modifications
and
geographic
scope
of
the
program
to
expand
implementation
of
the
project,,
including
the
use
of
lethal
control.
Beyond
the
previously
a
defined
northern
project
area
to
encompass
irrigable
agricultural
property
system
wide.
K
K
A
A
K
A
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
have
now
been
posted
system-wide,
along
with
the
removal
of
modification
of
existing
signs..
We
realized
that
we
might
have
a
gap
or
2,
and
we're
certainly
open
to
finding
out
where
those
are,
and
we
need.
but,
jeff,.
I
think
we're
probably
over
90
of
the
way
completed
with
that
signed.
Project.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
yeah,
certainly,.
If,
if
conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):,
you
want
to
make
us
aware
of
the
sign
replacements,
you
think
is
still
needed.
we're,
certainly
open
to
receiving
that
the
interactive
trail
map
has
been
updated
to
pick.
The
trails
that
allow
you
by
gain.
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside
(large
conf
14):,
since
our
approval
is
already
moved
through
their
board
and
commission
to
expand.,
where
you
bikes
are
now
allowed
on
how
many
properly
managed
properties
which
includes
col.
may
mayh
may
hop
our
single
tree
and
boulder
canyon
trails
that
they
are
responsible
for
managing.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
communication
plan
is
hopefully,.
You've
seen.
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
ebay
messaging
on
our
web
page.
we
put
out
press
releases,
social
media,
next
door,
post,
feel
notes
in
new
newsletter
update,.
We
actually
received
a
thousand
clicks,
and
our
most
recent
one,,
which
is
the
most
clicks.
I
think
we've
ever
had
on
our.
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
in
terms
of
long
term,
implementation.
we've
already
taken
a
a
couple
of
steps
to
be
able
to
add
new
data
collection..
We
had
a
couple
of
visitation
counters
that
we're
due
to
be
installed
out
in
the
system.,
so
we'd
use
that
opportunity
to
install
at
eastbourne
and
south
pole.
The
trail
respectively..
So
now
we'll
have
more
visitation
data.
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
to
incorporate
in
our
system
by
monitoring
that
is
occurring.,
and
so
we're
already
starting
to
collect
some
visitation
data
that
those
trail
counters
allow
us
to
get..
Those
were
installed
right
before
july
first,,
so
we
should
have
a
good
background.
Information.
now,,
starting
immediately
when
the
program
was
implemented.
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
In
this
case,
we
feel,
like
we
just
completed
an
adaptive
management
process
in
which
we
had
14
months
of
a
practice..
We
informed
staff
of
what
our
approach
was.
we
collected
data,
we
assessed
information.
what
was
going
on..
We
move
to
what's
the
third
step
of
what
are
our
desired
conditions
that
we
laid
out.
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
we
updated?,
we
suggested
management
program,
guidance
updates,.
We
received
that
and
a
guidance.
We
are
now
implementing.,
so
we
feel
like
we're
at..
We
all
number
7,
which
we
have
described
as
a
small
wheel,
which
is
continuing
to
monitor,
continuing
to.
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
to
look
at
trends
over
time.
and,
if
we're
starting
to
see
any
changes
in
trends,,
whether
it's
for
biking
or
hiking
or
back
riding,
or
or
any
of
those
other
recreational
use,
we'd
be
more
than
willing
to
have
a
staff
conversation
about
that
in
a
board
conversation
about
that..
So.
H
H
A
A
J
J
A
J
J
J
J
J
A
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
and
then
I
think
that
the
one
caution
about
is.
It
is
important
to
evaluate
that
data
in
a
system
like
context,,
because
there
may
be
unrelated
things
happening
that
are
causing
a
shift
on
those
particular
trails..
So
we
have
to
look
at
those
trails
in
the
context
of
the
full
system
to
make
sure
that
it's.
D
D
A
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
great.
thank
you.
couple
of
other
quick
updates.,
this
one.
Let
you
all
know
that
the
tallow
grass
grazing
project
is
completed
for
the
year.,
so
the
cows
are
out
of
the
shannon
and
ridge
area,
and
we
had
a
great
year..
I
felt
like
we've
made
some
good
progress
for
that.
H
H
H
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large
conf
14):
like
a
little
deeper
for
you
off,,
but
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
quick
comments
on
that.
yeah,,
I
mean,
I
talked
with
kelly.
you,
you
heads
up
our
management
program,
and
you
know
it's
a
binary
year
for
vegetation
across
the
board,,
including
noxious
weeds.,
so
you
know,,
we
are
seeing
that
that
some
species,
so
for
sink
foil,
is
one
that
seem
to
be
especially
prolific..
Other
species
may
just
be
far
more.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
brand
in
their
height
for
their
spread.
This
year,
not
necessarily
more
prolific
in
numbers.,
but
certainly
across
the
board.,
it's
a
great
year
for
weeds,,
so
our
our
planning
is
largely
done
in
the
same
way,,
regardless
of
climactic
conditions..
A
lot
of
that
planning,
you
know,
happens
at
the
beginning
of
the
season,
and.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
it
it's
largely
prioritized
by
state..
We
list
status.,
so
a
status
species
are
the
top
priority.
they're
flagged
for
eradication..
So
a
lot
of
our
efforts
up
to
this
point
of
the
season
have
been
focused
on
those,
especially
mediterranean
stage,,
that
has
a
very
narrow
window
within
which
we
have
to
treat
it
each
year.
before
it
flowers,
and
then
immediately,
when
it
flowers,
if
we've
missed
it,,
and
that
that's
actually
resulted
in
the
removal
of
15,000
plants.
This
year,,
which
is.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):,
myrtle
spurge,
have
been
the
2.
so
now
the
the
focus
shifts
to
other
a
list:
species,
purple,,
loose
strife,
and
others
that
have
a
different
seasonality
than
those
first
2,
and
moving
them
to
be
list.
Species
like
so
for
sink,,
foil,
and
and
others.,
and
this
year,
with
the
amount
of.
D
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
each
occurrence
and
seen
whether
it's
something
that
we
can
actually
target
for
eradication.,
if
it's
kind
of
small
enough
that
we
can
do
that?
or
are
we
looking
at
containment?
or
we
just
looking
at
trying
to
kind
of
knock
it
back..
That
just
really
depends
on
the
characteristics
of
each
individual
infestation..
So
it's
not
really
a
different
approach
than
it
is
in
a
dry
year,.
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):.
I
don't
know
that
I
mean,
we,
we
don't
do
system-wide
mapping
on
an
annual
basis.,
so
that
would
be
kind
of
based
on
the
impressions
of
the
crew,
and
where
they've
been..
We
are
certainly
getting
a
lot
more
reports
of
weed
infestations,,
many
of
which
we
know
about
already,
and,
and
some
of
that
may
be
related
to..
There
actually
be
more
out
there,
and
some
of
it
might
be
the,.
You
know,
the
degree
to
which
they're
very
highly
visible.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):
way
taller
than
I
am,
and
it's
an
impenetrable
wall,
and
I've
certainly
never
noticed
this.
Will
there
be
before,,
but
I'm
sure
it's
been
there..
It
just
didn't
look
anything
like
that.,
so
I
think
we
have
some
of
that
dynamic
as
well.,
but
it's
been
very
helpful,
actually,
because
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
calls
from
the
public,
alerting
us
to
infestations,,
some
of
which
we
didn't
know
about,,
probably
because
they
were
small
and
not
very
visible..
A
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf,
14):
and
so
areas
where
we
think
we
can
actually
eradicate
it..
We
do
that
this,
and
we
don't
have
to
deal
with
it
again
there
and
then
those
areas
where
we
can
contain
it.
and
then
we
kind
of
last
get
to
the
areas
where
we
can
just
sort
of
treat
it
and
try
to
keep
it
at
a
low
enough
level..
But
it's
not.
D
Conf
osmp
hub
creekside,
(large,
conf
14):,
you
know,
taking
over
or
spreading
significantly.,
so
it
it
sort
of
depends
on
the
location
and
the
infestation.
and
what
other
infestations
are
nearby..
Certainly,,
focusing
on
areas
of
jason
trails
is
one
priority,,
because
that's
potential.
vector
for
we've
spread.,
and
so
we
want
to
minimize
that,
to
the
degree
that
we
can
so
that
we're
not
moving
at
big
distances
across
the
system
where
possible?
yeah.