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dan-
might
be
able
to
answer
it
if
they
wanted
to
and
displayed,,
but
for
the
farewell
for
steve.
It
says
that
he's
interim
deputy
director
of
trails
and
facilities,
but.
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kuntz
osbt:
wonderful.
hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
with
that,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
hand
it
back
over
to
you
leo
to
talk
about
the
public.
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lynn,
segal:
from
mowing
once
to
twice
a
year
just
brings
more
plutonium
to
the
surface,
over
time,,
since
cutting
prairie
stimulates
new
growth.
Admitting
that
this
by
annual
mo
change
is
necessary,,
prove
it
was
doing
been
done
once
a
year
proves
the
point
that
fire
on
mikey
flats
is
a
potential
catastrophe.
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Lynn,
segal:
target
store
and
bigger
fuel
in
superior
lewisville.
If
a
fire
like
this
continued
at
rocky
flats,,
it
would
be
spreading
plutonium
off
site
to
augment
p
fast,
as
it
spread
to
massive
urban
population
centers
with
no
world
distancing
relief
like
at
the
more
suburban
marshall
side,
okay.
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hallstein,
osbt:.
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you
very
much
lynn,
this
is,.
These
are
interesting
thoughts
I
haven't
heard
much
about
if
you'd
send
any
remaining
material,
you
have
to
the
board
would
be
appreciated
what
we
do
need
to
move
on,.
We
are
on
a
three
minute
evening,.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
input.
There.
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Lynn,
riedel:
and
see
nap
will
have
a
process
at
the
state
level
and
they'll
seek
a
recommendation
from
the
color
colorado
natural
areas:
council,
the
program's
governor
appointed
advisory
committee,
to
bring
the
amended
and
updated
articles
with
designation
to
be
colored.
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Creation.
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lynn,
riedel:
for
the
jewel
mountain
designation
and
the
color
of
progress,
prairie
and
white
rocks
amendments.
A
notice
of
designation
will
be
filed
with
the
appropriate
county
clerk
and
recorder
each
county
or
in
the
pertinent
county,
and
that
notice
will
include
a
legal
description
of
the
boundaries.
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Bill
wildenberg:,
so
the
interesting
thing
about
this
slide
is
I'm
using
the
quote
from
the
last
slide,,
which
is
the
purpose
of
visualization,
is
not
pictures
but
insight.
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Bill
wildenberg:
initially,:
our
team
can
provide
graphic
design
assistance
on
the
left,
as
an
example,,
using
our
science
standards
to
convey
how,
in
a
lesson
p
project
is
realized
along
the
right,.
We
have
an
example
showing
several
design
iterations
for
our
company
compostable
dog
waste
containers.
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wildenberg:
however,,
something
we
take
very
seriously,
as
the
status
we
prioritize
requests
that
are
critical
for
safety,
law
enforcement
or
resource
protection,.
The
advantage
of
using
the
form
is
that
our
entire
work
group
receives
the
request
which
speeds
up
our
coordination
and
response.
Time.
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michelle
estrella,
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(she,
her,,
hers):
management,
software,
but.,
michelle
estrella,,
osbt,
(she,,
her,
hers):,
I'm
like
oh,.
I
see
that
project
over
there,
but
yeah,
so
when
they
go
through
there
and
I'm
gonna
steal.
That
line
about
yesterday
was
not
an
option
of
the
day,
the
deadline-
that's
starter,,
but
yeah.
So
how
do
people,?
How
do
you
prioritize,
which
signs
are
translated.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she,,
her,
hers):,
that
they're
being
told
yeah
and
I
get
it,.
The
visual
option
is
much
better,,
but
sometimes
the
there's
a
lot
of
like
embedded
into
the
details
there
in
language.
But
I
don't
know
if
you
are
flagging,
like
it's
really
important,
that
these
kinds
of
signs
be
bilingual.
Or.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she,,
her,
hers):.
It
wasn't
really
meant
to
be
a
directional
sign.
It
was
really
meant
to
tell
you
how
difficult
the
trail
was,.
I
did
not
get
that
enrolls
when
you
showed
that
I
was
like.
I
would
have
never
guessed.
That
is
that
how
you,
how
you
used
to
do
it
or
that's
how
you're
presenting
it
out.
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Bill
wildenberg:
deputy
directors
here,
but
the
signage
is
trying
to
respond
to
that
by
using
universal
symbols
and
also
using
qr
codes,.
So
they
have
been.
If
anyone
does
need
to
know
more,,
they
can
always
learn.
More.
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Bill
wildenberg:,
the
mounting
bolts,
were
anti
theft
mounting
bolts,
so
that
you
needed
a
special
tool
to
remove
them,
something
that
we
would
have
that
not
the
general
public
would
normally
have
so.
You
see
no
skiing,
we've
seen
no
swimming
we've
seen
all
kinds
of
interesting
things.
Interesting,
places.,.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
okay,
yeah,
fascinating.
I
I've
witnessed
a
few
sandwich
boards
that
were
made
to
look
very
official
that
were
created
by
private
property
owners
to
attempt
to
block
access
to
public
land.
So
just
curious.
If
we
witness
that
here
because
lord
knows
boulder
rights,
their
creative.
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Bill
wildenberg:
well,.
There
are
some
access
points
that
I'm
sure
you're
aware
of
to
you
is
the
they
have
recreated
very
official.
Looking
sign
said
it
was
awesome
p,
and
it
wasn't.
We
remove
them.
Let
the
hoa
board
know
that
those
were
not
okay,
and
since
then
no
one
new
science
have
appeared
there.
Okay.
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miller:
subjective
question,,
I
think
it
makes
so
much
sense,
but
you're
doing
with
the
science
as
far
as
the
uniformity
and
it's
just
so
interesting.
What
some
icy
and
what
somebody
don't.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
the
county,
but
we're
also
sharing
notes
and
lessons
learned
and
and
potential
grant
funding
and
things
like
that
in
regards
to
the
damage
assessments
in
our
work
with
fema.
So
it's
been
really
great
to
collaborate
cross
agency,
wise
on
that
type
of
stuff
and
share
share
our
knowledge.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
prescribed
burns,.
We
can
we're
eight.
We
might
be
able
to
do
more,
of
those
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
go
into
whether
or
not
we
can
do
a
prescribed
burns,,
but
our
staff
are
talking
about
ways
to
perhaps
be
able
to
enhance
that
program.
And,
of
course,
we
have
the
new
soil,
health
program.
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burke;,
cob,
osmp:,
absolutely
so
other
kind
of
collaborative
work
of
courses,,
where
you
are,
as
karen
knows,
we're
working
with
senior
center
for
sustainability,
landscapes
and
community
on
fire,
education
and
awareness,
working
on.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
and
then
the
window
of
opportunity
from
the
weather
and
all
the
moisture
closes
in
and
we're
never
able
to
do
it
so
there's
many
years.
We're
actually
have
it
on
the
plans
to
do
it,,
so
we
haven't
been
able
to
carry
it
out
from
all
these
very
specific
conditions
that
have
to
be
met.
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potter,
cob
osmp:
go.,
caroline
miller:,
like
we're
shanahan,
is
so
so.
My
question
was
when
you
said
that
hasn't
been
the
past
two
years,
or
the
upcoming.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
all
right,,
my
second.
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caroline
miller:,
if
there
is
a
separation
in
where
we
all
are,,
it
lies
in
either
the
simplicity
of
the
document
or
the
comprehensiveness
of
it,
and
it
might
be
that
we're
all
trying
to
reach
the
same
goal,
but
we're
doing
it
differently.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
isn't.
If
there
is
something.
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hallstein,
osbt:,
but
focus
more
on
meeting
the
staffs
needs
to
have
a
clear
organized
process
which
treats
each
applicant
or
request
or
fairly
and
also
which
prepares
the
board,
have
some
idea
of
the
timelines
and
way
in
which
the
process
unfolds
so
I'll.
Just
throw
that
in
is
what
I
think
on
question.
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burke;
cob
osmp:.
I
think
how
hit
it
really
well
in
the
very
beginning,
which,,
if
not,,
if
nothing,
else,
staff
is
looking
for
up
for
a
document
that
provides
us
consistency
over
time
for
how
staff
will
go
about
seeking
the
type
of
information
that
will
be
needed
for
the
decision
making.
Process.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
other
tangible
benefits
of
this
is
that
if
the
board
knows
that
this
is
the
type
of
process
and
work
that
went
before,
bringing
you
information,
there's
going
to
be
some
more
confidence
between
the
board
and
the
staff
of
bringing
things
forward
and,
and
it
will
hopefully
cut
down.
On.
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miller:,
I
had
a
question
related
to
that,
because
open
space
funds
are
earmarked
for
open
space,
funds.
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miller:,
you
know,
open
space,
purposes.,
caroline
miller:,
and
when
we
have
something
that
is
complex,
like
that,
I
just
wonder:
why,
like
the
disposal
document
would
be
so
thin
compared
to
the
land
acquisition
or
two
other
ones
like.
I
think
our
guidelines
document
is
great,,
but
I
it's
just
the
comparison
that
that
I
want
to.
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hallstein,
osbt:,
the
application
fundamentally
can
grow
over
time,.
Certain
of
them
are
going
to
be
small,
certain
number
of
them
are
going
to
be
large,
and
this
board
cannot
do
anything
about
that.
A
complex
disposal
will
always
have
a
large
application
and
a
simpler
one
will
have
a
somewhat
shorter
one.
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bethany
collins,
cob:,
always
take.
dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
recommendations
in
a
very
serious
manner,.
I
mean
it's,
but
you
know
there's
the
nature
of
the
advisory
component
of
this
of
this
board
and
then
more
of
the
decision
making
part
of
this
board,,
which
press
and
disposal
so
there's
just
fundamentally
a
difference
so
authority,
I
suppose.
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Bethany
collins,
cob:
you
know,,
implement
they
could
decide
not
to.
For
other
reasons,
you
know,,
even
if
the
board
recommended
to
issue
it
so.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:
what
city
of
boulder
can't
convey
land
to
the
city
of
boulder
and
already
owns
it,?
What
is
the
document?
Can
we
request
a
different
name
for
this
agreement,
and
can
we
make
a
condition
that
it'd
be
binding
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
etc,?
These
are
interesting,
open,
questions.,.
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Bethany
collins,
cob:
they're,
pretty
robust
compared
to
even
a
deed
or
an
easement
document
in
terms
of
you,
know,,
the
the.
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Bethany
collins,
cob:
and
you
know
fairly
specific
legal
descriptions
and
things
like
that,
and
they
are
signed
by
all
the
department,
directors
and
city
manager
and
and
so
they're
they're
pretty
real.
You
know,
I
don't
want
anyone
to
take
them,,
you
know
or
to
think
they
lack.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
a
one
time.
bethany
collins,,
cob:
yeah.
I
did
it
well,.
We
had
it
in
the
spt
memo
at
one
time,
but
yes,
karen
and
caroline,
when
to
go
back
to
your
number
one
on
your
list.
Carolina
I
did
intend
to
put
in
here
some
reference
that
is
meant
to
replace
any
previous
guidance
or
related
documents
and
not
even..
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osbt:,
oh
snp,
waiving
fees.
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osbt:,
we
put
those
ones
there,,
then
we
say
and
which
also
without
limitation
may
include,
and
then
we
list
the
other
items
that
we
think
could
be
more
in
the
unique
category.
Does
that
move
us
towards
the
checklist
goal
and
solving
some
of
these
problems
of
the
consistency
of
the
application.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:.
This
list
re
categorized
into
those
things
which
staff
believes
are
always
going
to
be
present,,
and
then
we
can
do
this
work
at
our
next
meeting
to
tweak
on
that
and
focus
our
time
tonight
on
adding
things
to
this
list
for
her
consideration
of
how
to
bucket
in
the
required
to
non
required.
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hallstein,
osbt:
one
question
I
have
here
on
section
be
the
part
about
the
osb
t.
Recommendation
may
be
subject
to
conditions
and
requirements.
That's
duplicative
to
the
next
section.
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Bethany
collins,
cob:.
I
think
our
charter
actually
says
no
less
than
let
me
check,,
though
I
think
that's
taken.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
the
time
for
when
we
get
a
request,,
then
we
may
go
back
and
save
and
we
needed
this.
We
move
more
into
me
more
information
and
then
they
go
ahead
and
give
us
that
and
and
it's
somewhat
dependent
on
how
receptive
they
are,
as
well
as
you
know,
our
ability
to
consider
the
materials.
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Caroline
miller:,
as
well,
if
you.,
bethany,
collins,
cob:,
is
a
non
guarantee,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
caroline,
not
to
guarantee
an
actual
meeting.
Date
is
a
month
out
or
two
months,
out,,
but
that
it
will
be
within
30
days
of
a
of
an
application.
That's
deemed
complete
by
open
space
staff,.
We
will
schedule.
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kuntz
osbt:,
yeah,
I'd
made.
dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
clarify
that
because,
again,
I
wouldn't
want
the
requested
to
read
that
and
say
okay,.
They
scheduled
me
for
for
consideration
in
february,
when
that
was
just
meant
to
be
the
introduction
to
you
in
february,.
But
yet
your
decisions
not
coming
to
march,
for
instance.
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hallstein,
osbt:,
the
property
owner,
can
very
much
say
like
sort
of
like
diagonal
plaza.
I
don't
really
care,
I'm
not
interested,
or
I'm
going
to
drag
my
feet,
for,,
however
much
time,,
so
I
just,
I
think,
we're
giving
up
a
little
bit
of
authority
by
doing
that
and
I
just
think
that's
worthy
of
consideration.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:,
I
think
city
council
approval,
may
be
subject
to
terms
and
conditions.
Again,
that's
duplicative
of
what
we've
broken
out
below,.
So
I
would
remove
it.
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Caroline
miller:
and
then
just
as
far
as
that
I
was
reading
somewhere
and
asleep,
and
I
can't
remember
where
that.
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Bethany
collins,
cob:,
but
again
below
where
some
of
those
requirements
or
conditions
could
be
review
and
recommendations
by
other
agencies
or
city
departments,.
But
we
can.
We
can
certainly
you
know,
handle
any
or
clarify
anything
with
what
night.
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Hal
hallstein,,
osbt:,
dan
and
bethany
are
going
to
get
together
on
the
timing
issue
and
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
a
document
that
is
much
closer
to
where
we
want
to
be
at
our
next
touch
on
it
at
the
next
go
spt
meeting.
Does
anybody
else
see
anything
else
critical
here
for
this
to
be
on
a
delivery,
schedule.
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Hal
hallstein,
osbt:.
I
guess
with
that
there
is
nothing
left
on
our
schedule.
I'll
say:
does
anyone
have
comments
about
written
information,
etc,
and
I
see
karen
right
there.