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A
B
This
is
agenda
item
two
and
I
think
this
is
a
proper
correction
that
has
Alan
Delamere,
saying
it's
a
good
time
for
open
space
for
the
trustees
to
reassess
acquisition
of
the
open
space,
other
and
I
think
to
be
correct.
We
would
scratch
the
word
acquisition
and
say
the
proposed
change
in
designation
of
the
open
space
other
area
at
3:11,
Mapleton.
A
Okay
and
I
had
one
change,
I'm,
not
sure
how
to
say
it.
So
the
word
crafter's
to
my
left
and
right
or
welcome
to
china.
But
it's
it
read
a
little
strange
under
agenda
item
for
Madam's
matters
from
the
board
and
it's
my
idea
that
bursaries
as
well
as
greenways,
Advisory,
Committee
GAC
and
then,
when
we
said
andrea
village,
attended
the
meeting.
A
C
Okay,
the
only
thing
I'd
say
with
regard
to
what
you
mentioned:
Kurt
was
I,
actually
think
Alan
Delamere
was
discussing
the
acquisition
of
that
property
as
a
potential.
Well
then,
thank
you
because
I
think
it
was.
The
argument
was:
should
the
city
of
Boulder
acquire
this
for
use
as
buildings
for
the
city
of
Boulder,
but
I
don't
mean
to
suppose
I.
Just
that
was
my
recollection
is
that's.
B
A
E
Good
evening,
I'm
Roger
connect
909
mapleton,
representing
citizens
for
seniors,
and
this
is
in
regard
to
agenda
item
3d,
the
311
Mapleton
property.
Would
you
like
this?
No,
so
we
were
rather
surprised
last
week
by
what
I
would
politely
call
staffs
creative
memo
to
the
Borg,
the
that
appeared
in
today's
packet,
and
we
have
some
comments
regarding
that.
We've
collectively
spent
over
a
hundred
hours
of
research
on
the
history
and
the
mapping
of
this
project,
and
that's
been
provided
to
you
in
a
research
report
which
I
think
you
have
a
copy
in
front
of
you.
E
Just
a
quick
summary
of
our
findings
is
that
the
the
property
in
question
the
Oso
designation
at
311
Mapleton,
has
been
ratified
by
the
city
and
reviewed
for
approximately
four
decades.
Ratification
appears
to
have
been
very
formally
in
2001
and
the
bull
Valley
comprehensive
maps
are
the
governing
documents.
They
are
not
subordinated
to
erroneous
County
personal
maps,
as
was
asserted
by
staff,
staffs
assertion
of
a
mapping
error
and
their
legal
claim
to
correct
it.
Without
OSB
T
review
and
public
hearing.
E
We
believe
it's
in
violation
of
the
OSB
T
Charter
and
the
MOU,
the
Revised
Code
in
1981,
so
what
procedures
OSB
T
should
assert
their
rights
and
relevant
responsibilities.
We
believe
in
this
matter
and
not
stand
down.
Yes,
staff
has
suggested
number
three
staffs
mapping
error
claim
regarding
the
open
space.
Designation
is
inaccurate.
Conjecture.
E
It
chooses
to
ignore
the
documented
older
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan
record
before
and
after
the
1979
parcel
map
that
they
submitted,
and
it
is
inconsistent
with
the
city's
current
GIS
mapping
data.
So
the
memo
that
you
have
the
research
report
has
a
lot
of
fun
maps
and
charts
and
is
organized
in
a
simple
question
and
answer
regarding
the
the
facts
of
this
particular
designation.
E
So
it
inclusion.
We
believe
that
a
OSB
t
public
hearing
on
this
matter
is
required
and
we
have
desired
one
since
the
January
11th
study
session
that
you
all
participated
in
and
we
respectfully
requested
that
the
OSB
t
chairperson,
scheduled
such
a
public
review
and
her
earliest
convenience.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
F
Yes,
good
evening,
I'm
Russell
Hendrickson,
my
wife
and
I
live
at
635
Concord
I
want
to
talk
about
the
same
thing.
Roger
talked
about
I
sent
this
board
an
18
page
report
on
this
issue
in
April
to
try
to
provide
some
clarity
on
it,
and
let
me
just
start
by
saying
I'm
shocked
by
the
staffs
position
on
this
particular
issue
and
I.
Think
my
shock
and
dismay
will
be
reflected
in
my
comments.
F
The
board
conducted
a
study
session
on
January
11th
and
asked
the
staff
to
report
back
to
the
board
on
a
number
of
important
open
space
issues.
Staff
has
responded
to
the
board's
request
by
advising
the
board
that
they,
the
staff,
have
universally
unilaterally
initiated
and
begun
the
process
to
change
the
designation
from
open
space
either
to
public.
Without
the
board's
review
recommendation
of
public
comment,
staff
is
asserted
that
the
lso
designation
was
a
result
of
an
error.
F
This
assertions
based
on
conclusion
reached
without
input
from
this
board
or
from
the
public.
It's
not
supported
either
by
the
facts
or
by
common
sense
and
accordingly,
should
be
rejected.
One
of
the
functions
functions
of
the
board
outlined
in
the
code
is
a
review
of
open
space
elements
of
the
comp
plan
and
to
make
recommendations
regarding
any
open
space.
Related
changes
to
the
plan
staff
has
asserted
that
their
action
is
not
a
change.
F
F
How
did
we
get
to
the
point
where
staff
is
seeking
extraordinary
nuanced
legal
reasons
to
avoid
a
board
clearly
designed
and
authorized
to
represent
the
citizens
of
Boulder
in
this
important
issue?
Staff
actions
to
avoid
this
board
violate
section,
T,
t,
13,
C
3
of
the
Revised
Code
I
would
ask
the
legal
department
that
perhaps
they
should
point
out
the
chapter
1
of
our
code,
which
provides
that
the
City
Council
intends
the
code
deliberately
construed
to
allow
their
full
intent
and
meaning
be
implemented.
F
Clearly,
the
council
would
want
this
body's
opinion
on
this
very
important
matter
and
not
to
have
staff
come
up
with
illegal
reasons.
To
avoid
it,
the
importance
of
the
board
is
reflected
in
the
code,
which
provides
that
the
City
Council
the
city
manager,
the
open
space
department,
shall
not
act
on
any
function,
ascribed
to
the
board
without
first
securing
a
recommendation
from
the
board
and
that
the
board
may
make
recommendations
on
any
other,
relating
to
the
open
space
program.
F
F
It's
my
hope
in
this
matter
that
at
some
point
in
the
future,
a
young
couple
with
small
children
will
be
able
to
park
in
the
same
place.
Previous
generations
have
parked
across
a
small
bridge
and
descend
into
one
of
the
most
beautiful
valleys
in
the
world.
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
support
and
this
board
in
trying
to
help
keep
this
city
the
wonderful
place.
It
is.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
D
Okay,
I'm
quite
a
frequent
attendee
here,
as
you
might
know,
you've
tweaked
my
attention
very
seriously,
and
this
open
space
area
has
incredible
public
benefit
and
the
you've
probably
all
walked
around
it.
But
you've,
probably
not
weren't,
done
what
Russell,
Roger
and
I
have
done
and
walked
the
critical
boundary
line
that
I've
shown
in
green
on
this,
and
you
can
see
that
there's
a
lot
of
vegetation
in
that
and
we've
touched
that
later.
D
D
So
in
May
the
5th
the
staff
review
of
the
311
there's
loads
of
positive
comments
and
at
the
backend
in
my
backup
slides
for
this,
you
can
go
and
read
a
lot
of
the
positive
statements
that
have
been
staff
made
progressively
on
the
topic
and
even
one
staff
member
suggested
acquisition
back
on
January
the
11th
which,
when
we
went
back,
we've
got
a
transcript
of
the
audio
and
long
behold.
It
was
very
clearly
stated
he
suggested
the
acquisition
should
be
considered,
so
the
public
benefits
for
this.
There
are
a
number
of
them.
D
It's
close
to
our
existing
open
space.
There's
parking
for
36
cars
on
that
site.
Now
some
people
and
I
Kevin.
You
mentioned
this
that
you're
not
in
the
in
the
building
and
carpark
business,
but
I'm,
sorry
to
inform
you.
You
are
in
the
parking
lot
business
you
have
about
15
or
more
parking
lots
that
open
space
is
managing
all
the
time,
so
I
feel
pretty
strongly
in
it.
It's
a
very
powerful
reason
for
having
this
open
space
other,
because
it
preserves
Cena's
views.
D
It
gives
guaranteed
access
24/7,
it
protects
the
server
day,
lates
from
high-sided
ation
and
it
maintains
the
I,
don't
really
know,
but
if
you've
walked
the
site,
there's
a
nice
little
trail
alongside
the
ditch.
It's
not
on
the
official
open
space,
MA
Maps,
but
lots
of
people
use
it
and
it
takes
you
from
the
wooden
bridge
to
the
stone
bridge.
So
it's
that's
actually
on
in
this
property,
been
watching
the
puppies
and
the
wild
lilies
on
the
hillside,
but
that's
something
my
wife
and
I
have
done
for
the
last
I.
D
Don't
know
20
odd
years
and
of
course,
the
other
thing
for
keeping
it
is.
It
provides
for
future
acquisition,
so
the
public
usage
has
had
been
unrestricted
for
generations
and
there's
many
methods
of
getting
onto
open
space
from
it.
There's
a
sign
even
directing
use
their
parking
lot
and
the
steep
terrain.
There's
a
map
showing
in
showing
the
steep
thing
that
Elaine
produced
showing
the
that
is
definitely
the
area.
That's
best
for
the
job.
D
A
You
I
appreciate
that
public
participation
in
this
okay,
so
moving
on
we're
going
to
matters
from
the
department
and
I,
did
want
to
make
a
notation
that
I've
added
a
little
thing
that
I
personally
wanted
to
do
and
so
STR
you
know,
I
have
one
perk
after
prior
gigahertz
and
that
is
I
can
make
a
joke.
Occasionally.
So
I
did
give
you
an
acronym
cheat
sheet
and
I.
A
Don't
know
if
everybody
got
one
but
I
want
to
try
it
because
for
an
artist
who
is
not
a
government,
thinking,
type
of
individual
acronyms
are
elusive
to
me
and
it's
a
little
bit
like
snipe
hunting.
So
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
an
acronym
sheet.
That
explained
it
agenda
item
by
item,
so
it
seems
a
little
silly,
but
to
people
who
don't
speak
acronym
as
a
Second
Language
ASL
is
my
favorite
joke
that
it
might
help
us
to
follow
it
long.
A
There
are
two
jokes
and
the
people
who
get
the
jokes
first
can
wave
their
hand
and
know
that
they're
following
along,
so
hopefully
that
will
help
I'd
love
to
get
input.
If
it
is
helpful,
I
find
it
helpful
for
me.
So
with
that
said,
let's
move
to
the
less
joking
part
of
the
evening,
which
is
the
draft
operating
budget
Thank.
G
H
Alright
hi
I'm
Lauren,
Kilcoy
I'm,
the
Business
Services
supervisor
here
to
talk
about
the
recommended
2018
operating
budget
and
for
the
last
three
months
we've
been
here,
we've
been
focusing
on
the
2018
to
2023
CIP
and
that
was
unanimously
recommended
at
last
month's
meeting.
This
is
our
first
discussion
of
the
operating
budget
and
we'll
be
back
next
month
for
a
public
hearing
discussion
and
hopefully
a
recommendation
on
the
operating
budget,
so
for
tonight
we're
gonna
focus
on
providing
some
context
around
operating
budget
development,
some
themes
that
have
emerged
as
we've
gone
through
this
process.
H
We
had
one
budget
request
for
2018
that
we'd
like
to
review
in
some
more
detail
and
then
provide
some
time
for
any
questions
you
might
have
and
for
2018.
This
is
the
overall
picture
of
our
budget.
What
we've
been
focused
on
for
the
past
few
months
is
in
purple
and
light
blue
and
that's
our
CIP.
These
other
categories
are
considered
part
of
our
operating
budget,
our
ongoing
operations,
and
that
includes
our
service
area
budgets,
our
debt
payments
and
our
cost
allocation.
H
So
what
do
mean?
What
do
we
mean
when
we
say
operations
of
service
areas?
We
have
five
service
areas
in
the
department.
Those
are
made
up
of
a
number
of
work
groups
per
service
area
and
each
of
those
work
groups
has
a
budget.
That's
made
up
of
personnel,
expense
and
non
personnel
expense.
So
when
we
talk
about
personnel
expense,
we
mean
any
salary
or
benefits
associated
with
our
standard.
H
Temporary
and
seasonal
staff
and
non
personnel
expense
would
be
supplies
and
equipment
and
all
the
things
we
know
we
need
on
an
ongoing
basis
to
keep
our
operations
going.
Debt
service
is
currently
made
up
of
three
payments.
We
have
in
six
and
oh
seven
and
a
2014
bond
issue
hanging
on
all
of
those,
and
if
you
look
at
your
fund
financial
over
the
next
six
years,
that
horizon
you
start
to
see
our
debt
payment
go
down
very
significantly
and
we'll
be
banking
over
the
next
two
years.
H
Our
final
payments
on
the
oh
six
and
oh
seven
bonds.
So
in
the
out
years,
it's
just
2014
that
remains
and
finally
cost
allocation.
This
was
a
big
focus
of
the
budget
process.
Last
year
the
city
was
updating
its
model.
So
at
that
time
we
had
the
consultant
come
who's,
updating
the
model
to
present
the
methodology
for
assigning
indirect
costs
throughout
the
city
to
the
departments
who
use
those
services,
so
things
like
IT
in
HR
and
central
finance,
all
of
our
our
partners
and
other
departments
that
that
help
us
accomplish
our
work.
H
So
for
this
year
it's
the
same
model.
Nothing
has
changed
in
terms
of
excuse
me
how
we
come
up
with
those
numbers,
but
you'll
notice.
It's
about
a
three
percent
increase
over
last
year,
so
Molly
and
I
were
talking
earlier
in
the
week
about
providing
some
more
detail
of
how
cost
allocations
broken
down.
H
You
have
an
attachment
that,
unfortunately
didn't
make
it
into
the
packet
I
just
handed
it
out,
but
it's
all
publicly
available
on
the
budget
site
and
we'll
be
working
from
now
until
the
next
meeting
to
get
you
some
more
detail
on
how
that's
broken
out.
So
in
total,
when
you
look
at
our
operating
budgets,
our
debt
service
and
cost
allocation
you're,
looking
at
just
under
26
million
for
2018,
and
this
just
this
slide
just
kind
of
breaks
that
out
further.
H
So
you
can
kind
of
see
the
allocation
by
service
area
of
those
dollars
in
addition
to
the
debt
and
cost
allocation.
So
themes
for
the
past
three
months.
You've
been
hearing
us
talk
about
this
shift
to
stewardship.
It
was
the
primary
theme
of
our
CIP
and
it
continues
in
our
operating
budget.
So
what
does
that
mean
to
shift
a
stewardship?
A
big
part
of
that
is
is
understanding
what
it
means,
what
it
takes
to
Joe
what
it
takes
to
maintain
our
systems
and
that's
a
question
that
we
got
from
the
board
last
month.
H
We've
we've
really
built
in
capacity
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
some
more
specifics
on
maintenance.
When
we
are
looking
at
our
maintenance
costs
for
the
department,
we
kept
it
in
those
same
terms
of
personnel
and
non
personnel
expense.
And
when
you
look
at
the
staff
who
are
primarily
focused
on
stewarding
our
system,
they
tend
to
fall
under
the
trails
and
facilities
and
the
resources
and
stewardship
service
areas
in
the
department.
But
overall
about
44
percent
of
our
department.
Standard
staff
have
a
primary
focus
of
maintaining
our
assets
and
systems.
H
That's
about
10
million
dollars
of
our
operating
budget,
so
53
percent
of
our
service
area
budgets
overall,
and
that's
in
addition
to
the
1.1
million
in
capital
maintenance
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
the
past
few
months
that
capital
maintenance
is
about
12%
of
our
CIP
and,
as
we've
talked
about
shifting
to
stewardship,
we
expect
that
capital
maintenance,
as
a
percentage
of
our
CIP,
will
grow
over
time
as
we
gradually
slow
our
acquisition.
And
what
does
this
look
like
out
in
the
field?
H
So
really,
since
2013
we've
been
focusing
on
FEMA
reimbursable
flood
recovery,
that's
been
the
heart
and
soul
of
Army.
In
its
effort
for
the
past
four
years
is
trying
to
meet
that
deadline
of
the
end
of
this
year
for
for
the
FEMA
deadline
and
then
into
2018,
you
still
see
some
non
FEMA
flood
projects
happening,
but
what
also
starts
to
happen
is
all
these
other
maintenance
projects
start
returning
to
the
work
plan,
so
trails,
trailheads
facilities
and
ecological
systems
start
to
get
back
to
deferred
maintenance,
routine
maintenance
and
across
the
holes
the
whole
work
plan.
H
You
see
that
so
projects
like
well
starting
to
incorporate
the
facilities
assessment,
for
example,
that
we
talked
about
a
couple
months
ago,
the
first
second
flat
iron
and
Chapman
Drive
trailhead.
All
of
that
stuff.
We
can
finally
get
back
to
paying
attention
to
so.
The
other
theme
that
emerged
as
we're
focusing
on
getting
back
to
maintaining
our
system
post
flood
is.
Do
we
have
the
right
staffing
level
to
be
able
to
do
that?
H
Do
we
have
folks
in
place
with
the
skills
that
are
needed
to
shift
to
stewardship,
and
this
has
been
a
huge
undertaking
since
2015,
when
we
did
our
organizational
assessment
to
really
systematically
review
our
jobs,
review
the
expectations
of
our
staff
in
those
positions
and
make
sure
we
have
what
we
need
over
the
long
term?
So
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
just
a
quick
visual.
We
in
2013
had
90
1.6
ft
II
the
current
year.
We
have
120
8.4,
so
that's
about
a
40%
increase
over
the
last
five
years.
H
The
remaining
5
positions
are
in
the
queue
and
will
be
studied
by
the
end
of
the
year,
the
affordable
care
act
and
the
living
wage.
Compliance
also
forced
us
to
take
a
really
close
look
at
our
seasonal
and
temporary
staff
and
how
those
folks
are
classified,
and
that
was
a
big
focus
of
last
year's
budget
process.
So
when
we
analyzed
all
of
this,
we
realized
we
had
16
crew
leads
classified
as
seasonals,
who
really
were
more
appropriately
classified
as
standard
staff,
and
that
was
a
focus
of
our
budget
request
was
converting
those
folks.
H
So
after
two
years
really,
the
remaining
group
of
staff
that
we
have
not
systematically
looked
at
is
our
fixed
term
staff.
Excuse
me
in
across
the
department
we
have
11
fixed
terms
currently
and
in
the
budget,
requests
that
you
have
in
your
packet.
You'll
see
that
we're
recommending
four
of
those
be
expired
at
the
end
of
this
year,
and
we
have
very
specific
reasons
for
all
of
those
expirations,
primarily
succession
planning.
We
had
an
early
heads
up
on
some
retirements
and
were
able
to
put
folks
in
place
to
learn
on
the
job
from
those
people.
H
Those
have
proceeded
really
well
and
on
track
and
we
feel
like
we
can
expire
those
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Enroll.
Those
folks
into
other
standard
positions
in
the
remaining
seven
really
relate
to
stewardship
activities.
So
three
of
those
are
trails.
Program
leads
initially
when
the
flood
happened.
We
requested
for
trails
program
leads
be
added
to
get
us
through
flood
recovery.
Since
then,
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
do
our
organizational
assessment.
Our
workgroup
assessment
and
job
study
to
understand
three
of
those
will
be
needed
long-term
and
the
fourth.
H
H
Projects
to
happen
helps
us
make
sure
we're
meeting
study
requirements,
doing
the
right
thing
taking
care
of
habitat,
and
we
understand
the
long-term
need
for
those
positions
and
then
finally,
this
wildlife
coordinator
position
this
one
we're
amend
we're
recommending
an
extension
and
not
a
conversion.
At
this
time,
that
position
has
been
focused
on
non
FEMA
flood
recovery.
It's
been
funded
by
a
Community
Development
Block
Grant
for
the
last
two
years
that
grant
has
ended,
but
simultaneously,
we've
had
this
prairie
dog
working
group
and
we're
starting
to
understand
what
it
might
take
to
manage.
H
H
So
really
that
was
those
were
the
changes
for
this
year
we
had
the
one
budget
request:
we've
had
a
had
an
increasing
emphasis
in
the
department
on
reallocating
existing
budget
to
meet
needs,
as
they
change
making
sure
being
really
conservative
and
transparent
and
have
an
increased
working
knowledge
of
our
budget
and
how
to
spend
it
year
to
year.
So
we
were
able
to
internally
reallocate
to
meet
our
needs,
except
for
that
fixed
term
budget
request,
and
that's
that's
really
it.
So
we
wanted
to
provide
time
for
any
questions
you
might
have
about
the
budget.
A
I'll
start
with
just
a
few
observations
of
why
I
asked
for
some
things
so
they're,
similar
to
what
I
asked
for
last
year
with
the
lens,
particularly
toward
cost
allocation,
as
that
is
one
of
our
bigger
hits,
and
so
it's
my
understanding
that
by
the
next
meeting
we
would
have
in
addition
to
the
ones
okay
and
so
I
have
requested
for
you
guys.
A
So
we
can
figure
out
their
percentage
that
cost
allocation
is
going
to
historically,
including
last
year.
That
was
really
helpful
to
get
that
last
year
and
just
kind
of
figure
out
that
as
a
equation
and
then
the
second
thing
that
it
occurs
to
me
and
then
I'll
go
to
a
question
and
I'm
just
throw
it
out
to
my
word,
members
yeah.
A
It
would
be
not
a
capricious
interest.
I
want
to
make
that
clear,
because
what
I'm
probably
gonna
be
asking
for
is
gonna.
Take
some
staff
time,
but
but
a
real
specific
interest
in
knowing
what
our
direct
costs
are
toward
the
ferreting
of
FEMA
in
terms
of
what
has
this
additionally
added
to
staff
time,
if
we
looked
at
it
from
a
point
of
view,
and
we
just
said
we
just
funded
her
and
money,
let's
say
we
go
well.
We
say
we
damaged
eighteen
point:
five
million
dollars
worth
the
damage
was
our
initial
of
damage
assessment.
A
A
So
we
could
do
that
as
a
discussion
and
certainly
I'd
be
happy
to
get
more
specific
based
on
what
the
board
discussion
would
be
post
this
and
it
easier
for
staff.
But-
and
that
is
not
capricious
in
that.
If
we
look
at,
could
we
have
another
flood?
Could
we
have
this?
Could
we
had
a
catastrophic
fire?
A
A
Fema
ties
up
an
awful
lot
of
time
with
detail,
work
and
so
I
know
that
that
is
a
big
discussion.
That's
not
a
great
discussion
to
have,
but
it
is
a
concern
of
mine
and
I
have
not
discussed
it
with
any
board
members
or
staff,
because
I
wanted
to
say
this
publicly.
This
is
my
personal
concern,
but
I
think
open
space
is
a
business.
A
A
business
of
a
hundred
and
seventeen
know
T's
and
1700
volunteer
activities
that
require
a
tremendous
amount
of
management,
and
so,
when
I
look
at
it
that
way,
I
try
to
think
how
do
we
run
a
not
as
small
business,
a
pretty
big
business,
so
I'll
just
put
that
out
there
I'm
not
trying
to
grant
and
stand
them
I'm
just
trying
to
throw
something
out
that
the
board
would
feedback
on.
Oh
just.
A
A
H
So
a
few
thoughts
and
we
can
absolutely
pull
together
more
information
and
have
another
discussion
about
this.
We
have
been
doing
really
well
tracking
at
the
project
level,
staff
time
and
other
cost
associated,
to
be
able
to
support
fema
requirements
when
we
submit
for
reimbursement,
but
a
lot
of
the
data
that
you're
referring
to
be
pretty
easy
to
put
together,
and
so
we
can
do
that.
A
lot
of
the
timeline
of
the
reimbursement
will
depend
on
staff.
H
So
what
we've
been
focused
on
so
far
as
getting
the
projects
done,
scope,
changes,
making
sure
all
the
documentation,
x'
and
wine,
and
the
next
step
to
that
is
submitting
requests
for
reimbursement.
So
what
we've
submitted
so
far?
2013
and
2014,
labor
and
equipment
have
been
submitted
for
reimbursement
and
then
a
few
of
the
smaller
projects.
He
must
changed
its
guidance
slightly
and
how
they
want
to
see
request
for
reimbursement
so
where
we
had
started
doing
it
at
the
site
level.
H
They'd
like
to
see
those
bundled
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
for
the
delay
waiting
until
we
close
out
and
could
submit
reimbursement
for
a
number
of
sites
at
the
same
time.
So
we
do
expect,
after
2017
to
recommit
to
that
and
getting
those
request
for
reimbursement
and
to
make
sure
that
those
funds
get
turned
around
to
us.
The
timeline
when
we
do
submit
for
reimbursement
to
when
those
funds
come
in
has
been
pretty
reasonable.
H
We
are
working
on
in
accounting,
some
accounting
back-end
on
how
to
how
to
post
those
to
our
fund
financial
I.
Think
in
2016
you'll
see
that
we
didn't
post
a
number
because
we're
still
settling
deferred
revenues
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
can
update
you
with
that
as
we
go,
but
certainly
the
responsibilities
on
us
to
start
turning
those
things
in
and
there
are
a
lot
of
efforts
in
parallel
to
what
you're
saying
of
analyzing.
So
what
would
we
do
different
next
time?
H
The
city
has
a
resiliency
team,
and
a
couple
of
us
are
on
that
team
to
look
at.
Do
we
have
all
the
structures
in
place
to
do
this
better
next
time?
Do
we
know
what
we
would
do
differently
and
then
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
nationally
what
happens
and
we'll
react
as
anything
does,
but
as
of
right
now
we're
working
under
the
assumption
that
those
dollars
would
continue
to
come
back
as
we
request
them.
A
Could
I
expand
on
that?
Just
wouldn't
minute,
so
I
know
that
FEMA
has
the
tiers,
so
you
have
under
50
over
150.
You
know
the
bundles,
so
I'm,
assuming
for
cash
flow.
You've
got
some
at
various
levels
because
sometimes
the
smaller
job,
some
of
this
larger
job
in
those
funds
are,
you
know
done
so
we
are
getting
to
the
end
of
where
we
would
have
most
of
the
work
completed
and
we
would
have
the
expectation
that
the
work
sheets
completed
would
be
paid
in
full
on
skunk
inion,
whatever
okay
yeah.
H
Exactly
right-
and
we
also
look
at
it
by
project
worksheet,
so
by
type
of
project,
write
real
engineered
trail,
bridge
fence
road
and
they
like
to
see
them
grouped
that
way
too.
So
Joel
Wagner's,
our
is
our
coordinator
for
the
city,
and
we
work
really
closely
with
him
to
make
sure
we're
meeting
all
of
the
FEMA
guidance
and-
and
it
has
changed
over
the
last
four
years
and
and
he's
kept
us
current
and
made
sure
that
we're
meeting
everything
we
need
to.
I
Actually,
a
couple
questions
on
that
subject:
ballpark
and
the
specific
numbers
don't
matter
but
ballpark
what
portion
of
the
city's
total
FEMA
reimbursable
costs
are
for
open
space,
yeah.
H
Ballpark,
okay,
ours
are
eight
million
I
believe
the
city's
has
changed
and
I
I
I
can't
recall
the
specific
number
low,
20s
I
think.
Initially
it
was
higher
because
we
didn't
understand
it
quite
have
everything
scoped
out,
and
so
that
number
is
adjusted
over
time.
But
we're
sticking
with
about
8
million
for
open
space
right
now
and.
I
H
From
everything
I've
heard,
things
are
kind
of
coming
in,
as
we
submit
for
reimbursement
and
and
like
I
said,
a
lot
of
it
is
staff
time.
So
most
city
departments
have
finished
up
their
flood
recovery
projects
and
we're
still
going
on
a
number
of
road
and
trail
projects,
so
we're
a
little
bit
behind
other
city
departments
in
terms
of
requesting
reimbursement,
but
we
also
started
later
than
them
and
getting
things
constructed.
Ok,.
I
C
Don't
have
any
FEMA
things,
I
have
a
clarifying
question
about
it.
I
just
wanted
to
know.
So.
Last
year,
when
we
went
through
the
operational
budget
procedure,
the
assessment
of
trails
was
imminent,
so
it
been
going
on
and
and
budgeting
for.
That
was
therefore
delayed,
because
we
didn't
know
what
trails
needed
to
be
repaired
or
how
much
it's
been
a
year
and
I
was
wondering
if
that
has
been
completed,
and
if
any
of
that
costing
has
been
put
into
this
directly.
C
J
John
Potter
resource
and
stewardship
manager,
so
the
trail
assessment
fieldwork
is
all
been
completed
and
we're
in
the
process
of
analyzing
that
and
applying
grg
putting
our
GIS
towards
it
so
that
we
can
do
these
types
of
calculations.
We
expect
to
also
have
that
information
brought
up
into
a
new
asset
management
system
called
beehive
which
which
the
city
has
been
adopting
on
an
Enterprise
basis,
and
that
way,
and
one
of
the
first
components
of
that
that
we're
going
to
do
is
trails.
J
C
Based
on
that
I'm
guessing
you
know,
my
experience,
which
is
largely
anecdotal,
is
that
almost
every
trail
needs
a
significant
amount
of
maintenance
right
now,
and
the
budgeting
increase
for
trails
is
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
between
this
year.
And
next,
do
you
have
a
sense
that
that
again,
total
ballpark,
like
we're
gonna,
be
in
for
a
shock
next
year,
based
on
what
needs
to
be
done
and
what
we're
staffed
at?
Oh.
J
C
H
We've
we've
undertaken
a
new
work
planning
effort
as
well
about
you
know
and
how
we're
planning
for
2018.
While
we
wait
for
this
to
come
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
we've
had
great
contributions
from
trail
staff
who
are
out
there
every
week
and
understanding
where
we
should
go
to
work
in
the
meantime.
H
So
we
feel
pretty
confident
in
the
2018
numbers
and
we
feel
like
we're
staffed
appropriately
for
the
long
term
and
similar
to
the
facilities
assessment
where
we
said
yeah
the
number
changes
every
year,
but
our
staffing
will
stay
level
and
in
in
years
where
it
will
be
less
expensive,
we'll
get
ahead
of
the
next
year
and
so
build
a
consist
program
instead
of
staffing
based
on
the
maintenance
needs
for
that
year.
I
think
you'll
see
the
same
methodology
when
we
get
when
we
get
to
Trails.
Ok,.
I
I
Do
you
have
at
hand
or
maybe
just
know
them
so
what
the
FTEs
that
are
devoted
to
and
I'm,
citing
sort
of
trail
specific
maintenance,
some
of
what
you're,
including
apparently
so
pitches,
but
some
of
that
was
through
a
broader
preservation
of
assets
but
of
the
sort
of
people
who
are
either
kind
of
you
know
boots
on
the
ground,
shovels
in
the
hand,
trails,
folks
or
they're.
You
know
immediate
supervisors
how
those
numbers
have
changed
over
the
last
two
three
four
years
to
where
we
are
now
and
what
we're
looking
at
for
2018
yeah.
H
So
one
two
trail
heads
no
aid,
actually
one
two
trail
heads
and
seven
two
trails,
so
you've
seen
some
great
growth
in
in
our
investment
in
trail,
maintenance
and
those
types
of
activities
we've
also
expanded
over
the
last
I.
Don't
know
how
many
years,
five
to
ten
the
number
of
seasonal
crews
that
we
have
working
on
those
things
and
we've
had
the
Junior
Ranger
program.
So
you've
got
a
hundred
high
school
students
every
year
going
to
work
for
four,
four
or
five
weeks
on
that.
H
B
B
The
major
changes
in
what
policy
or
management
strategies
are
guiding
those
things
I
think
that
makes
it
a
lot
easier
to
have
a
context
for
interpretation
of
the
budget.
So
so
I
appreciate
that,
and
you
know
if
you
can
include
that
in
the
next
meeting
packet
and
anything
else
that
addresses
in
a
thematic
way,
new
initiatives
or
new
approaches.
I
think
would
be
very
helpful.
So
thank
you
great.
A
So
I'm,
looking
at
the
general
fund
when
it
sunsets
and
then
when
I
project
it
out,
you
know
I
like
you
and
divide
it
by
the
the
total
fund
and
then
our
cost
allocation
I'm
getting
up
to
8%
after
that,
we're
we're
around
3.5
and
4.1,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
gonna
be
a
big
lens
for
me.
That's
why
I
asked
for
a
lot
of
things
but
qualify
some
of
that
billing
and
time
that
you
spent
in
cost
allocation
that
you
mentioned
was
devoted
to
the
human
resources
department.
A
H
You
know
what
I
appreciated
about
the
presentation
last
year
from
the
consultant
was
a
commitment
to
do
this
on
a
much
more
regular
basis,
update
the
model
every
two
to
three
years
versus
what
we've
seen
in
the
past,
every
five
six
it
has
it
has
ranged,
because
what
you
saw
in
the
last
model
is
an
increase
in
HR,
but
you
also
saw
some
corresponding
decreases
in
other
departments,
and
it
really
will
depend
every
couple
of
years.
Those
departments
will
analyze
how
much
of
their
time
they're
spending
supporting
us.
H
So
the
last
two
years
we've
had
a
huge
HR
push
to
try
to
get
these
jobs,
studied
staff
ourselves
appropriately
and
all
of
that
in
two
years.
That
might
look
different,
we're
not
sure
but
I
appreciate
the
flexibility
and
the
commitment
from
finance
to
update
it
more
regularly,
so
that
we're
being
charged
in
in
closer
to
real
time,
for
what
we're,
using,
depending
on
how
our
department
shifts
over
time,
but
I
I
think
the
model
it
has
accurately
reflected
our
use
of
those
services
over
the
last
couple
of
years
would.
A
It
be
reasonable
also
to
assume
that
if
certain
areas
we
are
using
less
of
the
time
say
if
our,
if
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we've
done
some
of
our
acquisitions
and
our
acquisitions
are
not
gonna,
be
as
aggressive
in
the
future
as
they
have
been,
then.
Could
we
expect
that
in
the
cost,
allocation,
legal
fees
and
other
things
would
also
reduce
yeah.
H
You
know
it'll
depend
here
to
here,
and
I
can
do
some
more
research
on
this,
but
though
acquisitions
might
decrease,
we
might
have
other
things
in
conservation
easements.
That
might
require
more
attention,
for
example,
so
right
I
can
I
can
look
closer
into
the
breakdown
of
those
things
to
try
to
project
a
little
bit
better.
It's
just
a
little
hard
to
say.
A
A
One
last
question:
yes,
so
kind
of
following
along
the
cost
allocation
and
looking
at
that
as
a
overhead
figure,
because
that
seems
to
be
inching
up
every
year.
Have
we
looked
at
our
duplication,
because
that
was
an
issue
last
year.
If
city
has
idea-
and
we
have
HR-
and
we-
you
know-
I
mean
that
was
kind
of
my
thing
last
year.
A
Certainly
a
lens
we
can
put
out.
Is
it
order
matrixes
during
the
master
patent
process,
going
we're
spending
a
lot
here?
We're
spending
a
lot
there.
Can
we
do
this?
You
know
more
with
the
city,
but
that
would
be
my
hope
that
we
could
start
to
combine
some
of
these
departments
and
use
our
money
more
effectively
because
it
does
seem
when
I
look
at
cost
allocation.
A
We
have
somebody
does
conservation,
easements
that
works
for
us.
We
have
IT
people,
we
have
HR
people,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
and
that
we
went
through
this
last
year,
but
I'm
gonna
be
honest.
I
have
not
seen
a
significant
drop
and
say
you
know:
okay,
it's
still
looking
similar,
if
not
inching
up,
and
so
that
would
be
something
that
I
really
would
like
to
focus
on.
Yeah.
H
And
we'll
provide
some
more
information.
I
know.
Last
year,
when
you
and
I
worked
on
it,
we
went
through
each
of
those
departments
that
we
get
charges
from
and
have
staff
delineate
out
what
they
do
versus
what
so
finance
is
a
great
example.
What
I
do
versus
what
my
counterparts
in
finance
do,
and
in
some
of
that
is
based
on
accounting
practice
right
and
separation
of
duties
and
I
know
we
started
charting
that
out
and
we
can
keep
working
on
that
and
provide
some
information
around
that.
H
But
I
know
that
at
least
in
the
from
what
I
can
remember
of
conversations
last
year,
staff
felt
like
there
are
pretty
clear
separations,
but
certainly
we're
always
looking
for
efficiencies
and
process
improvements
and
way
to
make
this
thing
easier.
So
so
we'll
get
back
to
it
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
and
get
some
data
together.
Yeah.
A
K
I
appreciate
that
concern
I
think
what
we're
realizing
is.
There's
always
an
opportunity
and
I've
actually
seen
the
model
change
where
we've
kind
of
identified
things
that
we
see
as
duplicate
and
and
there's
been
revisions
to
what
the
costs
that
we
actually
end
up
paying
are
also,
even
though
I
guess
in
in
function
or
technical
expertise
we
might
have
similar.
We
have
a
conservation
easement
person.
So
why
would
we
get
outside
advice
on
conservation,
easement?
It's
a
different
either
a
skill
set
or
just
something.
K
We
don't
have
in-house,
where
we're
really
leveraging
our
partners
in
the
city
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
the
best
decisions.
You
know
to
your
point.
This
is
actually
a
really
big
business
and
we
might
not
have
it
all
in-house.
So
if
we
have
it
in
other
departments
and
we're
able
to
utilize
that
lets
go
ahead
and
utilize
that
and
make
sure
we're
spending
the
money
to
make
the
good
decisions
right.
L
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
something.
What
I
thought
feel
quickly
if
I'm
wrong
is
that
any
changes
in
our
use
of
city
services
from
the
prior
year
wouldn't
be
reflected
in
this,
because
everybody
just
got
a
three
percent
across-the-board
increase.
So
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
what
we
actually
used
what
this
year
versus
the
previous
year.
This
is
just
three
percent
increase
and
then
periodically
will
re-examine
the
the
allocation
yeah.
H
And
they
changed
the
model
last
time,
I
believe
it
was
I'm.
Gonna
mix
this
up
an
accrual
basis
to
a
budget
basis,
so
they
used
our
budget
projections
to
come
up
with
those
percentages.
So
our
share
our
percentage
relative
to
the
city
cost
has
not
changed
I.
Believe
it's
still
like
six
point.
Six
percent
of
the
overall
allocation
is
charged
to
us.
A
A
G
G
As
you
guys
know,
I
think
we
came
to
you
in
March
of
2016
to
talk
about
this
initial
concept
of
working
with
proponents
of
the
Conservancy
who
are
here
tonight
and
I'll,
introduce
in
a
moment
in
the
discussion.
You
told
us
to
proceed,
but
with
caution
to
really
think
about
what
this
might
mean
for
open
space,
and
we've
took,
let's
see
since
March
over
12
months,
to
really
think
about
this
I'm
happy
to
say
we're
a
really
good
point.
We've
got
as
you
see
in
the
attachment
a
letter
of
intent.
G
The
letter
of
intent
is
a
non
legal,
binding
document
just
wanna
make
that
clear.
It
is
just
an
intent
for
us
to
work
together
as
partnership
and
the
city
manager
is
now
signed
off
with
that,
along
with
the
proponents
of
the
Conservancy,
and
the
idea
is
as
they'll
talk
about
tonight.
How
do
they
support
the
Charter
for
open
space
and
staff
and
the
board
in
some
of
the
purposes
we
have,
and
we
do
see
it
what's
interesting?
G
Is
the
city
has
specifically
said
we'd
like
to
explore
public/private
partnerships
in
an
entrepreneurial
on
that
can
never
say
that
weird
entrepreneurial,
innovative
way
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
that
the
Bosque
itself
will
establish
itself
as
a
nonprofit
leverage,
public
source
sources,
private
sources
and
the
goal
is
like
I
said
earlier
to
support
us
I.
Think
one
of
the
important
aspects
of
the
Conservancy
is
that
we
really
have
took
our
time
to
think
about
what
this
means
for
open
space
and
how
it
can
better
support
us
in
the
future.
G
It's
interesting
just
following
on,
for
instance,
from
the
the
revenue
streams
we
have
in
the
projections
into
the
future
and
how
it
might
help
in
that
regard,
for
instance,
so
we're
then
no
further
ado
I.
Do
you
want
to
pass
it
over
in
and
out
of
one
of
the
leading
proponents?
Diane
Dan
Murphy,
along
with
the
rest
of
the
team,
obviously
joined
us
18
months
ago
and
I'd
just
like
to
point
out
that
they've
put
in
maybe
hundreds
of
hours
into
this
effort,
and
tonight
you'll
see
that
in
the
presentation.
Thank
you,
Dan
good.
M
Evening,
everyone
I
can't
tell
you
how
honored
and
thrilled
we
are
to
be
here
tonight
to
to
reintroduce
you
to
the
boulder
open
space.
Conservancy
and
I
also
want
to
mention
how
completely
thrilled
we've
been
to
work
with
mark
and
Abbey
and
Kerry
they've
been
an
amazing,
energetic
team
that
has
really
helped
us
navigate.
M
Both
are
open.
Space
and
mountain
parks
will
be
a
nonprofit
organization.
We
have
submitted
our
application
to
the
IRS
for
a
501,
C
3,
and
it
has
been
established
through
the
public-private
partnership
with
the
city
of
Boulder.
We
envision
our
partnership
to
be
the
cob
eration
of
two
equal
and
independent
entities,
leveraging
public
resources
with
private
philanthropy
to
address
the
challenges
and
the
opportunities
in
fulfilling
the
OSM
p
charter.
M
As
partners
with
open
space,
we
will
align
ourselves
in
support
of
critical
needs,
such
as
shifting
demographics,
engaging
youth
and
emerging
trends
such
as
climate
change
and
resilience
building.
We
envision
eventually
reducing
historical
reliance
in
the
sales
tax
as
well,
and
we
will
discuss
this
or
make
some
points
around
this
and
a
little
bit
later
in
the
presentation.
M
We
strive
to
inspire
collaboration
within
the
entire
community,
including
business
and
corporate
educational
institutions
and
other
nonprofits,
to
broaden
and
strengthen
the
support
of
open
space
in
mountain
parks
in
our
work
together.
We
hope
to
be
an
excellent
example
of
the
national
trend
of
cross-sector
partnerships
in
reinforcing
support
of
our
public
lands.
M
M
Corporate
contributions,
also
through
grants
and
employee
engagement
foundation,
grants
we're
already
preparing
ourselves
to
apply
for
some
capacity-building
grants,
as
we
are
a
brand-new
startup
organization,
a
membership
or
Friends
program.
And
then
one
of
the
more
important
aspects
which
is
relatively
new
to
the
nonprofit
world
is
around
social
enterprise
and
we
hope
to
do
things
like
create
an
open
space
app.
M
N
Thank
you
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
hosting
us
were,
like
Diane,
said,
thrilled
to
be
here,
I'm,
the
newbie
in
the
organization,
and
you
can
measure
that
in
in
weeks,
but
as
was
mentioned,
several
other
teammate
members
have
been
involved
in
this
for
for
nearly
two
years.
So
it's
been
quite
a
journey,
and
this
this
evening
is
is
truly
a
milestone
celebration
for
us
to
be
with
you,
and
we
really
appreciate
that.
N
L
N
A
tagline
for
the
title
of
this
slide
should
actually
be.
How
do
we
jointly
decide
on
what
to
do,
and
the
key
word
here
is
jointly
and
as
Diane
mentioned,
we've
had
a
wonderful
time
with
the
partnership
that
we
have
with
mark
and
Abby
haven't
met
you
yet,
but
in
Cary,
and
we
fully
appreciate
that
that
type
of
partnership
relationship
is
just
a
really
key
success
factor.
N
So
it's
feeling
like
it's
going
really
good
in
the
right
direction
in
order
to
figure
out
what
we
wanted
to
do
you
kind
of
made
it
easy
for
us,
because
you've
done
a
great
job
of
documenting
your
stated
values
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
work
went
into
that,
but
they're
articulated
very
well.
The
a
couple
of
the
ones
that
really
resonate
with
me
are
supporting
the
essential
needs
of
preservation,
arrest,
restoration
of
of
resources,
both
water
and
land,
managing
land
for
recreation
and
agriculture
and,
of
course,
engaging
youth.
N
We
have
many
discussions
with
the
OS
MP
staff
in
terms
of
what
the
priorities
should
be
and
I'm
sure
you're
very
familiar
with
that
list
and
I
think
we've
come
up
with
a
very
exciting
idea.
I'll
share
with
you
in
just
a
minute.
We
tried
to
pick
one
that
really
exploits
collaboration
and
by
using
that
term.
N
Rest
assured
that
every
step
of
the
way
we'll
be
evaluating
progress,
taking
a
look
at
how
we're
doing
and
everything
we're
doing
figuring
out
what
needs
to
be
tweaked
and
making
process
improvements
as
we
go
forward.
The
other
point
I
wanted
to
leave
with
you
is
we're
very
cognizant
that
we
don't
want
to
bite
off
more
than
we
can
chew
and
and
that's
easy
to
do,
to
get
carried
away.
N
But
we
kind
of
have
a
double
whammy
going
this
year
in
terms
of
we
want
to
get
a
project
up
and
running
and
we
have
to
get
our
Bossk
operating
staff
up
and
running.
We
got
to
do
a
website.
We've
got
to
figure
out
a
place
to
hang
our
hats.
That
kind
of
a
thing.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
real
busy
year
for
us
and
I'll
guarantee
you
that
we're
not
going
to
come
to
you
within
a
month
with
a
multi-million
dollar
construction
project.
We
want
you
to
consider,
but
we
might
later
on.
N
So
a
tagline
for
this
slide
actually
is
what
are
the
criteria
for
where
we
want
to
start,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
very
keen
about
is
getting
our
youth
involved
in
in
a
very
diverse
and
inclusive
way
and
Diane
earlier
mentioned,
we're
looking
for
board
members.
One
of
the
key
board
members
were
looking
for
is,
and
we've
identified.
Him
is
a
key
community,
Latino
leader,
and
so
hopefully
the
next
time
we
meet.
N
Another
activity
is
to
implement
a
Applied,
Research
Center
and,
as
the
slide
shows,
it
will
be
staff
based
and
the
intent
right
now
is
that
would
be
OH
MSP
staff
base,
but
I'm,
confident
that
the
bosk
staff
will
be
involved
as
well,
and
this
is
essentially
an
RD
facility
who
we
will
be
sharing
best
practices
on
emerging
issues
like
climate
land
and
water
resources
and
agriculture
and
all
of
its
ramifications.
So.
N
Now,
with
respect
to
the
specific
project
that
we'd
like
to
do
is
we
want
to
focus
on
something
and
everybody
focuses
on
food,
and
so
our
vision
is
to
establish
a
food
and
agricultural
center.
This
will
follow
a
theme
of
not
only
farm
to
table,
but
farm
to
table
and
body,
so
we'll
be
emphasizing
organic
food
and
nutrition
as
well.
N
We
want
our
community
to
have
a
physical
connection
to
the
food
they
eat
and
we
also
aspire
for
this
Center
to
be
a
resource
model
for
farmers
and
ranchers
both
locally
and
hopefully
even
nationally,
where
people
can
come
and
see
best
practices
and
be
showcased
and
taught
as
well.
A
big
help
we
have
in
this
area
is
one
of
our
team
members,
Eric
Washburn,
who
wasn't
able
to
be
with
us
this
afternoon
or
this
evening.
Eric
is
what
I
would
consider
an
agricultural
expert.
N
N
We
want
this
AG
center
to
be
the
catalyst
for
partnerships
with
local
food
initiatives
and
who
knows
maybe
even
someday
we
will
have
an
Associated
restaurant
to
go
along
with
it.
So
we're
thinking
big
in
terms
of
next
steps.
We
got
to
complete
our
board
work
in
heartedness.
We
had
a
really
good
interview
this
afternoon.
We
had
another
one
yesterday,
so
that's
a
major
priority
for
us.
We
want
to
take
the
next
step
and
go
from
the
LOI
that
was
approved
to
an
information
package,
so
that
will
be
forthcoming.
N
A
B
Have
one
thought-
and
the
first
thought
is
again
to
thank
you
folks
for
hanging
in
there
and
putting
in
all
the
time
and
effort
for
people
who
have
never
done
this.
It
always
looks
like
it
should
be
a
lot
easier
than
it
turns
out
to
be
I
know,
there's
miles
to
go
before
you
sleep.
So
again,
thank
you
for
being
in
progress
on
this
I
love
the
letter
of
intent,
I
love
everything.
B
Looking
at
the
collective
value
number,
the
two
that
it's
gonna
be
a
goal
of
this:
to
reduce
the
historical
reliance
on
tax
revenue
and
create
value
added
revenue
streams
it
it
does
give
the
impression-
and
maybe
this
is
our
intent,
and
if
it
is,
you
know,
I'm,
not
gonna,
say
no,
but
it
does
give
the
impression
that
these
people
will
substitute
their
revenue
streams
for
tax
revenue,
streams
and
I.
Think
that's
optimistic
and
I
also
don't
think
it's
the
sort
of
mission
that
they
want
to
be
selling
to
their
donors
either.
B
Is
that
if
you
give
money
to
us
we'll
be
able
to
pay
mark
salary,
I,
don't
think
this
is,
and
it's
probably
not
what
was
intended.
I
just
think
that
this
language
we
need
to
rethink
it
a
little
bit
and
maybe
I
mean
my
impression
is
that
what
these
folks
are
doing
is
that
they're,
adding
to
our
efforts,
perhaps
in
under-resourced
areas,
perhaps
in
new
initiatives,
perhaps
in
special
projects,
it's
more
about
adding
to
I,
think
you're
right.
There
thought
no.
G
B
C
I
guess
first
thing
I'd
say
is
that
this
is
amazing.
You
guys
I,
remember
when
you
came
before
and
I
was
like:
oh
wow,
okay,
you
really
want
to
be
involved
and
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
this
is
gonna
work
out
and
to
see
where
you've
come,
because
I've
helped
start
a
501c3
before
I
know
it's
really
hard.
C
One
of
the
things
that
wouldn't
have
happened
before
we
had
a
discussion
is
sort
of
like
there's
a
concern
about
the
way
we
seed,
some
power
of,
or
could
potentially
see,
some
power
of
management
of
open
space
to
a
non-governmental
organization
if
we
become
beholding
to
them
for
money
or
organization
and
I
think
you've
done
a
very
good
job
of
outlining
how
your
want
to
produce
something.
That's
distinctly
a
support
and
something
different.
C
But
the
thing
about
funding
that
was
in
there
does
put
us
in
in
that
same
questionable
spot
again,
so
I
and
I
think
I
totally
understand
what
you're
trying
to
say.
I
think
just
wording
it
better
so
that
we
don't
have
that
feeling
it
would
be
really
helpful
and
then
the
other
thing
I
would
say
is
that
I
think
you've
done
a
great
job
moving
forward
and
when
you
said
you're
getting
someone
on
the
board
who's,
it's
you
know,
I,
think,
that's
wonderful!
C
N
I
Yeah
I
wanted,
you
know
echo
the
good
words
of
others
and
thank
you
for
your
persistence
on
this
I
to
have
helped
found
a
501,
C
3.
Actually,
when
I
was
in
the
open
space
area
some
years
ago
and
I
I
think
it
is
great
that
the
three
topics
you
picked
were
in
result,
if
not
in
intent,
sensitive
to
the
concern
that
we
had
raised
the
year
and
a
half
ago
to
sort
of
avoid
the
hot-button
issues
so
that
this
does
not
become
yet
another
battleground
and
I.
I
Think
you've
been
successful
in
wise
in
doing
that,
I
think
you
know,
I
think
that's
great
I'm
I
would
just
encourage
you,
as
the
research
part
of
this
starts
to
develop
to
think
carefully
about
the
sort
of
the
scale
of
this
that
some
of
this
stuff
about
research
and
climate
change
has
to
be
done
at
the
the
right
scale
if
you're
just
talking
about
well.
What
does
this
mean
for
open
space
that
that
may
be
a
manageable
proposition
if
you're
proposing
something
a
good
bit
broader
than
that?
I
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
think
about
whether
this
is
something
that
is
too
narrow
in
its
reach
to
be
able
to
effectively
tackle
an
issue.
That's
you
know
pretty
beefy
an
issue
that
desperately
needs
funding
as
people
involved
or
know,
but
just
think
carefully
about
whether
about
the
scope
of
that,
but
otherwise
good
luck,
I.
G
And
could
I
just
reply
to
Tom
just
a
second,
it
Tommy
raising
a
great
point
and
actually
the
that
we've
spoke
with
this
for
the
Conservancy,
where,
like
we
might
begin
with
small
capital
projects
and
think
about
larger
capital
projects
later
climate
change,
that's
an
easy
one.
To
begin
with.
No,
it's
not
it's
a
huge
subject,
but
we,
you
know
Brian
Anika,
our
science
officer
runs.
You
know
the
Applied
Research
funded
grant
program
and
there's
an
example
where
the
Conservancy
could
supplement
that
type
of
program
where
it's
very
focused
on
particular
aspects
of
climate
change.
I
I
A
So
to
take
sad
or
just
comments
on
the
Bari
idea,
I
like
very
much
that
that,
with
the
timing
of
our
master
plan,
because
our
community
outreach
is
gonna,
be
critical
and
that's
always
a
challenge
for
us
to
manage.
All
of
that.
So
I
think
the
Bari
piece
is
interesting
and
of
course
the
third
thing
is
fantastic,
and
you
know
you
can
cater
Thanks
in
the
next
couple
of
years
that
be
great
and
I'm
still
waiting
on
the
champagne.
A
But
the
other
question
is
I:
did
have
in
the
area
of
staffing,
OS,
MP
obligations,
area,
fun.
Your
hello,
I
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
on
where
in
our
budget
would
we
dedicate
that
staff
and
that's
less
to
you
and
more
directive
toward
budgeting
and
saying
you
know,
let's,
if
we're
starting
along
this
path,
then,
let's
kind
of
already
know:
where
is
this
gonna,
yeah
and
I
know
without
having
a
moai
or
anything?
A
We
can't
really
dedicate
anything
but
kind
of
like
to
get
a
little
feel
for
it
and
then
having
just
completed
the
eggplant
and
looking
at
the
age
of
our
lessees
and
ranchers
success
in
success
or
planning
is
gonna,
be
really
important
and
I
see
that
as
a
real
contributor
piece,
the
education
piece
and
all
of
that
trying
to
find
funding
and
all
that.
So
that
really
seems
very
exciting
for
me
that
we
could
look
at
her
history
and
make
new
things
and
then
I
totally
agree
with
Kevin.
A
A
A
G
All
right
next
item
is
Darren,
Wagner
I
believe
yes
and
Darren
will
be
doing
the
master
plan
process
committee.
This
is
the
first
we've
come
to
you
with
an
item
about
the
master
plan.
At
the
moment.
It's
obviously
that's,
not
gonna
kick
off
till
January
2018,
but
this
is
to
talk
about
the
actual
committee
to
discuss
the
process
to
plan
to
plan.
That's.
O
Right,
Metta
we're
planning
to
plan,
so
we
provided
a
memo
to
you
prior
to
this,
and
this
is
just
a
brief
presentation
to
give
you
an
introduction
to
what
that
process
committee
could
be
for
the
master
plan
and,
as
we
start
to
think
about
engagement
for
the
master
plan.
That'll
obviously
be
really
important
to
us,
as
it
always
is
in
our
planning
processes.
But
this
will
be
the
first
time
and
I
think
about
80
years
that
we've
actually
done
a
master
plan.
We
just
learned
we
actually,
as
a
department,
did
one
in
1937.
O
O
And
we're
gonna
really
hopefully
look
to
the
process
committee
to
help
us
reach
these
four
audiences
next
Ilia.
So
the
purpose
of
the
process
committee
is
to
try
and
ensure
best
practices
around
public
engagement
and
planning
and
the
way
that
we
hope
to
do
that
is
to
engage
decision
decision-makers
early
in
the
process,
so
asking
questions
upfront.
What
does
success?
Look
look
like
in
terms
of
a
successful
process
so
that
we're
we're
clear
about
what
that
looks
like
yeah.
O
O
O
The
role
of
the
committee
members
is
to
just
go
ahead
and
one
more
help
us
shape
an
inclusive
process,
and
by
that
we
mean
also
helping
us
make
sure
that
we're
reaching
underrepresented
populations
that
we
want
to
be
as
thoughtful
about
that
as
possible
and
and
and
looking
to
you
for
help
doing
that,
and
also,
as
I
mentioned
before,
providing
input
on
measures
of
success.
What
what
is
a
good
public
process?
Look
like?
O
As
a
hearing
that
sort
of
thing,
the
idea
is
that
we
meet
monthly
for
an
hour
and
that
it's
not
more
taxing
than
that
there
might
be
opportunities
and
needs
to
review
materials
in
between
meetings
so
that
we
can
have
productive
dialogue
when
we're
there,
but
we'll
try
and
minimize
the
workload
and
then,
obviously
you
know
you'll
be
liaisons
back
to
the
rest
of
the
board.
So
you
can
help
us
understand
again
when
we
need
to
come
back
to
the
full
board
for
comment
on
certain
things.
O
So
next
up
is
tonight,
we're
hoping
that
you
guys
can
select
and
confirm
your
two
representatives
to
the
committee
and
then
on
August
1st
council
will
be
selecting
their
representatives.
We
had
hoped
that
that
was
going
to
happen
next
Tuesday,
but
they
just
let
us
know
that
they'd
like
an
additional
two
weeks
to
consider
who
their
representatives
will
be
so
have
to
wait
until
August
first
to
hear
from
counsel.
So
we
are
hoping
that
once
we
have
all
four
members
identified,
that
will
schedule
a
kickoff
in
August.
O
So
that
later
this
year,
perhaps
in
December,
we
bring
that
process
to
the
full
board.
Ask
for
your
acceptance
of
that
and
do
the
same
with
City
Council,
so
that
we
have
agreement
from
the
full
board
in
the
full
council
about
what
that
approach
will
be.
So
with
that
I
would
just
ask
Molly
your
board.
Members
have
questions
or.
B
A
And
it's
my
understanding
that
what
we're
really
looking
for
is
someone
who
would
be
during
the
whole
process,
so
they
wouldn't
be
exiting
like
I
am
or
those
kind
of
things.
While
the
process
is
happening,
which
I
guess
is
similar
to
kind
of
greenways,
and
that
we
don't
want
to
shake
the
boat,
will
there
be
opportunities
for,
because
I
know
Andrea
had
expressed
that
she
wanted
to
be
involved
in
things
and
I
want
to
be?
And
you
know
anybody
who's
not
on
on
the
steering
committee.
A
O
Okay,
yeah,
absolutely
and
just
to
reiterate,
to
I
think
we'll
also
be
looking
to
the
two
representatives
on
the
committee
to
make
sure
that
we're
building
in
enough
of
those
but
I
think
at
the
very
least
you
know
you
can
expect
staff
updates
at
board
meetings.
Also,
the
two
representatives
from
the
committee
can
also
present
under
matters
from
board.
If
there
are
things
that
you
want
to
discuss
in
a
broader
format
and
then
certainly
will
be
looking
to
schedule,
study
sessions
and
larger
meetings,
I'm.
A
I
just
want
to
make
one
kind
of
general
comment,
and
then
we
go
to
the
discussion,
but
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
the
process
get
rushed
too
much
and
that
and
I
just
want
to
say
this.
This
is
my
own
personal
view,
but
I
would
very
much
like
to
see
staff
be
able
to
develop
the
master
plan
fully
to
the
architecture
that
they
want,
and
so
with.
C
I'm
yeah
no
I
kind
of
assumed
that
there's
no
way
I
could
fulfill
this
role
because
I
wouldn't
be
around
to
the
end
of
the
process
and
yeah
I
mean
I.
I
would
totally
nominate
Andrea
since
she's.
Not
here,
she
can't
say
no,
but
that
seems
pretty
unfair,
so
I,
yeah,
I,
think
Tom
and
Kurt
would
be
great
yeah.
A
Also
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
under
rehab,
because
she
has
this
great
background
in
transportation
and
a
lot
of
insights
when
I
was,
with
her
run,
Greenway
so
impressed
that
she
has
an
opportunity-
that's
great
yeah.
He
involved
with
us
so
I
appreciate
that
great
and
so
the
two
representatives,
then
Tom
will
be
the
chair
when
it
gets
reviewed
by
OS,
PG
and
Kurt
will
be
the
chair
for
the
early
implementation
and
continuity
of
understanding
the
structure
and
going
forward.
So
that's
good
all
right
next,
any
other.
A
B
You
know
this
is
probably
obvious
to
you,
folks
that
are
struggling
with
this
whole
process
and
I.
Think
your
separation
of
responsibilities
for
content
from
responsibility
for
process
is
appropriate,
but
obviously
the
process
you
design
depends
upon
the
issues
you're
going
to
address,
and
so
obviously
thought
has
to
be
given
to
how
we
come
up
with
those
lists
of
issues
that
are
going
to
be
addressed
and
have
counsel
weigh
in
on
that
before
we
finalize
our
design
of
the
process,
yeah.
L
G
As
you
guys
know,
we're
gonna
be
bringing
the
end
sort
of
system
overview
back
to
you
in
October
and
that
sort
of
sets
up
the
conversation
right
while
that
process
committee
is
working.
So
we're
thinking
you
like
anything,
it's
iterative
in
that
sense.
So
hopefully
that
will
provide
the
clarity
you
know
on
both
sides.
As
best
we
can.
O
G
P
Oh,
it's
working
yeah
good
good
evening,
Phil
Chrysler,
with
the
comprehensive
planning
division
or
the
city
of
Boulder
I
will
do
my
best
to
limit
my
acronym
usage
in
to
the
best
of
my
ability.
But
this
really
is
a
brief
staff
update
concerning
some
land
use,
mapping,
issues
that
have
we've
kind
of
uncovered
at
the
site
at
3:11
mapleton
within
the
city
of
Boulder,
and
so
this
is
an
informational
item.
P
So
the
actual
process
for
for
changing
our
and
the
comprehensive
plan
on
the
land
use
designation.
The
designation
map
is
outlined
in
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan,
which
is
listed
on
the
slide
here.
This
process
involves
either
a
city
action
or
a
County
action
depending
on
if
it's
in
the
city
or
the
county,
the
the
actual
land.
In
this
case,
that
would
mean
a
public
hearing
by
the
Planning
Board,
as
well
as
a
public
hearing
by
the
City
Council,
and
so
in
terms
of
scheduling.
P
It
was
kind
of
brought
up
during
the
site,
review,
process
and
rezoning,
and
so
we
decided
just
for
scheduling
purposes,
ease
of
scheduling
to
process
it
concurrently
with
that
application,
even
though
it's
not
necessarily
tied
to
it
and
through
that
process.
It's
very
separate
from
the
the
minor
updates
and
the
major
updates
that
we
just
went
through
or
are
still
going
through,
with
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
so
the
OSB
T
open-space
Board
of
Trustees.
Sorry
there
is
no
action
needed
from
the
OSB
T
throughout
this
process,
just
a
few.
P
A
few
thoughts
about
the
the
current
mapping,
just
as
a
reminder
to
the
board
on
the
left
or
the
land
use
designation
maps
shown
in
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan,
and
these
land
use
designations
are
really
intended
to
show
at
a
pretty
high
level
the
desired
land-use
patterns
throughout
the
Boulder
Valley
they're.
Really,
a
policy
instrument
to
guide
decisions
when
a
property
gets
initial
zoning
or
annexation
is
read
zoned
or
has
some
other
application
that
we
receive
the
open
space.
P
However,
it
does
fulfill
a
community
benefit,
and
that
is
it
is
it
does
inspire.
It
does
prompt
staff
to
take
a
look
at
the
property
memory,
see
these
types
of
development
applications
to
take
a
hard
look,
and
you
know,
answer
the
question:
how
can
it
provide
open
space
services
for
the
community?
Now?
P
This
is
just
a
reminder
of
what's
actually
within
that
open
space
other
boundary
that
includes
the
dormitory
parking,
lots,
paved
roads,
let's
see,
and
so
throughout
the
development
review
process.
We
we
looked
at
this
and
we
weren't
quite
sure,
but
we
saw
it
as
kind
of
an
anomaly
so
stepping
back
a
little
bit
and
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan,
really
an
underlying
tenant,
is
to
promote
compact
development
within
the
city
of
Boulder
area
of
one
while
preserving
much
of
the
land
surrounding
the
city
in
area.
P
Three
and
that's
oftentimes
you'll
see
those
open
space
other
designations
on
more
rural
and
undeveloped
parcels
surrounding
the
city.
In
this
case
it
was
kind
of
flipped
upside
down.
Where
this
is
a
parcel
inside
the
city,
that's
been
developed
for
quite
some
time.
We
weren't
quite
sure
why
the
Oso
is
on
there.
P
So
we
started
out
really
reviewing
a
number
of
parcel
maps,
courtesy
of
the
the
Boulder
County
GIS
division,
and
what
this
is
is
a
1979
parcel
map
that
shows
the
311
Mapleton
address
our
site
generally
outlined
in
red,
and
that
green
area
is
the
open
space.
Other
designation
and,
in
reality,
the
ditch
kind
of
flows
meanders
along
that
Western
property
line
or
portions
of
it.
P
But
we
saw
in
this
parcel
map
that
it
was
actually
came
into
the
site
kind
of
jogged
to
the
right
and
went
up
in
an
incorrect
location,
and
this
is
very
broad
brush
sort
of
on
this
slide.
But
when
we
overlaid
the
the
site
and
the
designation,
it
became
clear
that
there's
some
alignment
there,
and
so
we
started
pulling
some
other
maps
and
we
noticed
around
this
time.
We
started
seeing
some
other
maps.
P
This
is
a
zoning
map
of
that
time
used
through
as
a
growth
Commission
that
showed
the
same
odd
or
incorrect,
ditch
location
that
just
shows
the
overlay
there
and
then
getting
into
the
1980s
you'll
recall
that
the
open
space
other
designation
refers
to
lands
designated
prior
to
1981.
This
is
a
portion
of
that
1981
map
that
that's
referring
to
and
what's
it,
what
this
is
showing.
This
is
zoomed
in
to
the
hospital
site.
P
You'll
see
that
hatching
the
cross
hatching
then
directly
aligns
with
what's
currently
Oso
and
what
is
currently
what
was
that
incorrect,
ditch
location,
and
so
we
saw
that
incorrect.
Those
some
of
those
errors
in
that
1970s
mapping
now
carrying
forward
to
1980
shortly
after
1980
I
think
it
was
a
mid-year
update.
Eighty-Three.
This
open
space
map
was
actually
reconciled
with
the
Boulder
Valley
Comprehensive
Plan
map
in
an
effort
to
have
kind
of
a
unified
front,
with
open
space
visions.
P
Now,
moving
to
the
next
decade
that
same
land
use,
designation
map
remains
what
you
see
here
on
the
left
on
the
top
left
is
the
open
space
designation
on
the
1990
complaint
map
and
so
you'll
notice,
some
of
the
darker
green
and
lighter
greens
and
you'll
notice,
some
of
it
kind
of
goes
across
some
lines.
This
was
done
either
in
markers
or
through
zipa
tone
or
screen
tone.
So
it
was
a
pretty.
It
was
a
hand-drawn
process
and
that's
just
how
they
how
they
were
made
at
that
point
and
then
leading
into
1995.
P
Contours
things
like
that
and
as
a
result
today,
if
you've
spent
about
a
minute
looking
at
the
land
use,
map,
you'll,
see
you'll
find
little
mistakes
here
and
there,
and
so
it's
just
something
that
we've
kind
of
dealt
with
and
over
the
since
I
believe.
The
comp
plan
was
adopted
or
after
the
first
couple
of
iterations
we've
had
a
process
for
for
correcting
errors
in
the
comp
plan,
probably
partially.
As
a
result.
P
There
was
a
project,
a
kind
of
a
component
of
that
that
looked
at
the
open
space
designations,
and
at
that
time
we
actually
broke
out
that
one
open
space
designations
into
the
three
that
we
know
today.
So
that's
the
open
space
acquired
for
stuff
we've
acquired,
which
is
shown
here
on
the
west,
open
space
development
restrictions
for
those
you
know
certain
restrictions
on
it
and
then
everything
else
which
is
an
open
space
other.
P
Mountain
Park
staff
would
continue
to
provide
development
review
comments
as
a
neighbor
to
the
development
site
and
they're
looking
at
the
site
as
a
whole
and
then
concurrently
with
that
development
application,
we
will
be
processing
that
mapping
error.
That's
a
brief
update.
We
tried
to
keep
it
as
brief
as
possible
with
very
few
acronyms
and
we
would
be
more
than
happy.
We
have
staff
here
if
you
have
any
questions
or
anything
like
that,
I.
I
Guess
have
a
question
and
then
a
comment.
The
question
this
may
become
a
multiple
part
question,
but
we'll
start
out
to
where
are
we
in
terms
of
the
process
on
this
particular
parcel?
I
understand
you,
you
feel
board
input
is
not
required,
but
we've
obviously
had
a
request
from
some
citizens
to
have
the
board
nonetheless
get
involved,
and
so
one
question
we
have
to
wrestle
with
is
you
know?
P
P
They
take
a
look
at
it,
it's
not
in
the
county
and
so
oftentimes,
it's
more
of
information-sharing
and
then
either
the
city
or
the
county
would
make
that
that
correction
after
that,
in
this
case,
we
haven't
even
started
that
and
so
we're
pretty
early
in
the
process,
and
so,
while
the
standard
process
that
we've
we've
gone
through
before
and
most
recently
at
the
silver
saddle
project
on
the
rapaho
that
was
a
there-
was
an
error
correction
involved
in
that
project.
That
was
I
think
about
a
month
ago.
P
I
Gathered
yes
again,
I
mean
that
as
an
if,
if
we
were
to
conclude
yeah
we'd
like
to
make
some
statement
on
this
issue
and
if
we
concluded
that
that
really
requires
us
to
have
a
making
an
agenda
item,
so
we
can
have
a
proper
discussion
of
it
and
again
that's
an
if
it
sounds
like
there's
time
to
do
that.
If
we
thought
we
wanted
to
make
some
statements,
obviously
not
our
decision.
But
if
we
wish
to
make
a
statement
on
the
subject.
B
B
What's
the
best
use
of
this
land,
and
it's
strange
that
this
board
has
been
asked
consecutively
quite
recently
to
give
a
view
without
changing
designation
of
open
space
other
on
private
property,
which
is
kind
of
odd,
and
so
I
haven't
quite
figured
out
what
we
would
be
weighing
in
on.
Do
you
kind
of.
I
That's
probably
giving
me
too
much
credit,
but
it's
in
a
sense
like
the
Cu
South
I
think
we
did
express
opinions
in
a
fairly
formal
way
that
you
know
God.
You
know
we're
conveyed
up
the
chain
and
those
who
have
the
authority
to
make
decisions
could
use
those
as
they
wished
and
so
just
at
a
process
level.
I
I
mean
just
say:
looking
at
this
in
a
sense,
there's
the
question
to
my
mind
as
well.
What
is
the
mistake?
There's
no
doubt
that
the
ditch
is
drawn
in
the
wrong
place.
That's
not
that's
clearly
a
mistake.
The
question
is
the
way
I
think
about
this
is.
Was
the
Oso
drawn
there
because
someone
thought
that
property
ought
to
be
open
space
and
they
just
happen
to
use
the
ditch
as
defining
the
boundary
of
that?
Or
did
someone
think?
No?
I
No,
no,
what's
east
of
the
ditch
ought
to
have
one
designation
and
what's
west,
of
the
ditch
ought
to
have
a
different
designation
and
they
just
drew
the
ditch
in
the
wrong
place,
but
they
never
intended
the
property
east
of
the
ditch
to
be
open,
space
and
I,
don't
know
which
of
those
two
things
is
correct
as
it
is
it
is
it
the
ditch?
That
really
is
the
driver
here
or
is
it
jus
the
ditch?
Isn't
the
driver?
P
And
mark,
and
certainly
chime
in
or
any
other
stuff,
but
in
doing
this
kind
of
forensic
mapping
and
looking
at
some
of
these
old
memos,
you
know
we,
we
pulled
up
some
correspondence
to
council
back
in
1990
I
believe
that
did
specifically
say
you
know.
The
city
is
interested
in
purchasing
land
west
of
the
Silver
Lake
ditch,
and
in
that
memo
also
say,
the
land
is
west
of
the
Silver
Lake.
Ditch
is
indeed
open
space
designated
as
a
open
space,
and
with
that
the
the
map
shown
in
that
city
staff
used.
G
Yes,
you
could
say:
I'm
actually
would
like
to
make
a
comment
on
that
or
something,
but
it
might
not
involve
the
public
process
based
upon
the
fact.
It's
been
determined
as
an
error,
so
we
could
come
back
in
August
to
discuss
it
more.
If
you
wanted,
Phil,
hopefully
has
been
able
to
explain
the
process
so
we'd
leave
it
up
to
you
to
have
that
discussion
and
advise
us.
A
A
little
I
guess
for
my
point
of
view,
I
look
at
it
as
we're
a
neighbor
to
these
people
and
we
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
That's
our
stewardship
model,
so
I
think.
Just
from
that
one
standpoint,
I've
I've
heard
enough
input
that
there's
a
significant
amount
of
citizen
interest
in
having
a
discussion
and
I
think,
especially
given
that
see
youself
we
had
such
a
huge
discussion
about
again
a
private
entity.
A
I
guess
my
take
on
this
would
be
that
to
have
some
formal
discussion
would
be
a
consideration
and
a
way
of
saying.
This
is
something
that
we
feel
would
be
about
you
when
I
went
through
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
staff
this
morning,
I
apologize,
Ellen
and
I
did
not
take
you
up.
A
nice
offer
of
coming
out
I've
been
very
busy.
I
totally
intended
to
I
talked
to
Tom,
because
he
did
mention
you
and
when
over
3
a.m.
A
this
morning
in
detail
many
times
your
previous
packets
and
information,
again
to
scrutinize
it
a
little
bit
more
and
so
women
look
at
the
overlay
of
what
the
comp
plan
and
the
things
that
you've
done
in
3.10
and
3.11,
and
all
these
things
there
are.
There
is
a
lot
of
overlay
between
what
happens
as
charter
purpose
and
what
we
do
and
we
are
a
neighbor
to
you.
A
So
from
that
point
of
view
it
would
seem
like
Tom's
idea,
maybe
giving
a
public
discussion
if
we
could
get
that
agenda
for
August
or
whenever
you
could
give
me
a
lead
on
that.
That
would
be
something
that
would
maybe
help
there
there's
been
a
lot
of
public
input,
but
given
that
things
have
changed
ya.
G
The
night
omit
I
want
to
make
sure
we
follow
the
protocol
like
is
there
actually
a
possibility
for
the
board
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
public
hearing
is
part
of
that
Oh?
Does
the
protocols
say
well,
there's
a
discussion,
and
then
you
can
make
some
kind
of
recommendation.
I
just
want
to
hear
from
staff
what
they
think
the
protocol
would
be.
In
this
instance,.
P
In
the
past,
it's
it's
been
a
city
or
county
decision
see
mark
possibly
coming
up
from
his
standpoint
and
and
historical
perspective
as
well,
but
you
know
we
talked
with
our
city
at
one
of
our
city's
attorneys
today
and
kind
of
kind
of
asked
that
question
of
okay.
We
have
a
set
process
here.
We
followed
it.
P
You
know,
as
recently
as
a
month
ago,
we've
we've
kind
of
gone
through
that
he
said:
there's
nothing
preventing
legally
preventing
the
board
from
from
weighing
in
on
an
action,
though
it's
not
something
that
is
in
the
in
our
standard
process.
Those
those
two
public
hearings
would
be
the
process
that
we
would
followed
for
them.
So.
G
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
I,
think
I've
heard
so
much
concern
from
everyone
and
I
think
it
merits.
You
know
whatever
process
is
necessary.
On
the
other
hand,
if
this
is
a
correction
and
there's
nothing
we're
going
to
do
other
than
say
we
don't
like
this
correction.
I
don't
want
to
hear
this
again
because
I
don't
want
to
have
to
go
through
like
a
four-hour
meeting
to
be
like
well,
there's
nothing
we
can
do
if
there's
something
we
can
do.
B
Would
second,
that
Kevin
I
think
that
was
very
well
described?
There
are
other
issues
that
people
are
concerned
about
that
are
probably
more
valuable
for
us
to
address
than
to
continue
in
this
direction.
I
I
sort
of
feel
like
this
becomes
a
proxy
for
other,
more
important
issues
that
maybe
we
can't
address,
and
so
I
I
would
agree
with
your
guidance
on
framing
the
gen9
and.
C
And
I
think
it
might
also
be
valuable
for
both
us
and
for
the
members
of
the
community
to
say,
look
okay.
This
is
not
gonna
work
here
are
the
venues
for,
like
future
consideration
of
how
to
change
the
way
311
Mapleton
comes
out.
Here's
the
future
public
hearings.
Here's
one
developments
going
to
be
established
so
that
it's
directed
in
the
right
place.
P
And
I
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
overlap
in
some
of
the
comments
we've
heard
about
it.
You
know
a
technical
mapping,
error
versus
a
site
plan,
a
site
review
happening
through
a
quasi
judicial
process
that
you
know
has
its
public
hearing
scheduled,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
a
separate
thing
and
if
it
did
or
didn't
you
know
was
or
was
not
changed,
wouldn't
necessarily
impact
that
that
review
either
way.
So.
C
G
A
Get
back
to
us
is
what
I'm
hearing
in
the
interest
since
Andrea
isn't
here.
You
know
I,
guess
I'm,
feeling
little
sensitive,
that
I'd
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
feels
comfortable
with
the
input
you
know.
I
cannot
respond
to
you
directly,
can
I
empty,
so
not
sure
how
we
do
this.
No.
G
And
I
think
from
our
perspective,
I
mean
this
is
a
isn't
crossing
the
T's
in
terms
of
protocol,
which
is
what
Tom
bright.
Yes,
I!
Think
in
it
with
this.
It's
open
space,
odd
meeting
tonight,
but
it's
the
pining
Department
who's
leading
this
project,
so
we'd
prefer
back
to
them
to
come
back
with
what
the
protocol
is
impossible
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
get
back
to
you.
Yeah.
G
Could
I
just
yeah
just
one
more
matter
from
staff?
If
that's
possible,
it's
not
on
the
agenda.
We
just
got
some
good
news
actually
recently
that
a
cultural
resource
staff
had
submitted
landmark
designation
for
hunter
call
and
Hardin
Eagle
farm,
and
it
looks
like
they'll
be
approved
by
the
board
it'll
be
on
the
National
Register
at
a
county
level
status
for
National
Register
nomination,
so
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that's
going
through
process
and
it'll,
hopefully
come
back
in
always
so
September
for
you
guys
to
review.
So
that's
great
news.
C
One
it's
a
it's
a
concern
regarding
the
up
and
coming
big
plan
process.
I've
heard
now
from
people
from
three
different
groups
traditionally
associated
with
conservation
and
Recreation.
Expressing
two
concerns.
One
is
like
we
don't
know,
what's
going
on,
which
I
know
that's
coming
and
the
other
one
is.
C
We
can
have
a
really
comprehensive
recreation
management
plan
and
then
we
have
a
master
plan
that
puts
those
together
but
doesn't
develop
that
the
policy
itself
and
I've
heard
from
the
full
spectrum.
Everyone
saying
the
same
thing
like
we're
concerned
that
we're
not
gonna
get
hurt
about
our
issues
in
a
way
that
we
feel
is
important,
because
this
is
too
big.
No
no.
G
A
great
points
Kevin
to
your
first
point:
we
you
know-
and
here
we
are
in
July-
we're
actually
not
coming
back
to
you
until
I
believe
December
with
the
scope
for
the
plan.
So
in
truth,
we're
just
trying
to
do
our
due
diligence
really
early
and
get
our
ducks
in
a
row
with
the
process
committee.
So
people
have
heard
about
it
very
early
because
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
and
with
that,
we
do
have
it
on
a
website.
I
don't
have
the
address
handy,
but
perhaps
at
some
point
we
could
share
that.
G
Perhaps
at
the
next
board
meeting
where
people
can
access
what's
going
on
with
the
plan.
What's
the
goal,
why
are
we
doing
it
etc,
except
there
like
a
Q&A
in
regards
the
plan
itself,
it
is
following
like,
as
a
department
we've
not
a
load.
Darrin
referred
to
the
1937
master
plan
very
early
days,
it's
more
recently
as
a
department.
We
haven't
done
a
master
plan
and
the
right
it's
a
city
standard
to
do
a
master
plan,
Transport
Department,
Parks
and
Recreation.
G
So
we're
following
the
city
standard
for
master
planning
and
it
is
it's
gonna,
be
a
you
know.
If
you
look
at
the
transport
plan,
anyone
can
feel
welcome
to
see
that
that's
a
recent
good
example
of
what
our
plan
will
potentially
look
like
in
terms
of
format
and
scale.
So
that's
what
will
emerge
and
then,
yes,
there
is
more
coming
out
of
that
plan
based
upon
policy
strategies,
there's
more
detailed
work
to
get
down
on
the
ground
that
will
still
be
coming
back
to
the
board
in
terms
of
how
we
implement
it.
G
C
G
B
B
Some
people
are
starting
to
worry,
they're
missing,
important
milestones
because
we
did
have.
We
did
have
schedules
for
the
master
plan
that
would
be
halfway
through
the
process
right
now
and
we
haven't
really
gone
back
and
said
we're
sort
of
starting
with
a
new
approach,
and
so
anything
we
can
do
to
highlight
the
website
and
everything
else.
I
agree
with
Kevin.
It
would
help
people
feel
a
little
bit
more
relaxed.
Okay,.
O
Appreciate
that
I
just
wanted
to
share,
so
the
website
is
fairly
easy
to
remember
so.
It's
OS
MP
master
plan
org
and
then
also
because
we
are
forming
the
process
committee
and
and
kicking
that
off
in
August.
Those
meetings
will
be
publicly
noticed,
and
so
we're
also
one
will
be
we're
starting
to
talk
about.
How
can
we
take
what's
on
the
website
right
now,
which
is
just
the
basic
you
know,
FA
cues
and
turn
that
into
a
little
flyer,
something
else
that
we
can
also
get
out
to
the
public.
O
G
And
I'm,
just
looking
at
the
rolling
calendar
and
just
to
confirm,
we'll
be
coming
back
to
the
board
in
September
to
talk
about
the
master
plan
process
committee,
looking
at
October
to
bring
the
portfolio
for
the
master
plan,
the
system
overview
and
then
in
December
we'll
be
back
to
the
board
with
the
process
committee
in
the
scope
and
then
going
to
Council
in
January.
So
I
think
at
this
point,
you'll
start
to
see
that
uptake
occurring
apologies.
If
we
didn't
bring
it.
Oh
no.
A
Q
One
piece
of
information
that
came
in
this
week
is
that
the
Record
of
Decision
or
the
Denver
Water
gross
reservoir
project
was
issued
by
the
Corps
of
Engineers,
and
the
Record
of
Decision
provides
Denver
Water
with
the
Clean
Water
Act
404
permit
for
the
gross
reservoir
expansion,
including
the
gross
environmental
pool.
In
2016.
We
began
planning
for
project
to
restore
sections
of
South
Boulder
Creek
that
were
impacted
from
the
flood.
Some
of
the
problems
that
were
trying
to
address
with
this
project
include
we're
in
many
places.
Q
The
Creek
is
too
wide
for
the
current
flow
and
sediment
load
and,
as
a
result,
Creek
generally
lacks
much
habitat
diversity.
It's
basically
for
the
most
part,
one
long,
shallow
riffle
and,
as
you
can
see
in
this
picture,
water
depth
is
an
issue.
It's
generally
uniform
and
low
and
at
times
is
low
enough
to
actually
not
support
fish
in
the
winter
or
the
channel.
Again
low
flows
in
the
channel
water
freezes
and
it
becomes
basically
a
solid
block
of
ice
which,
as
you
can
imagine,
isn't
very
beneficial
for
a
fish
either.
Q
Q
So
we
identified
a
number
of
objectives
for
this
project,
including
reestablishing
an
appropriate
low-flow
channel
and
balance
which,
with
its
flow
and
sediment
regimes,
so
we
don't
have
excessive
sediment,
deposition
or
channel
down
cutting,
also
establish
pools
and
riffles
and
install
various
habitat
structures
to
increase
habitat
diversity.
We
also
plan
on
stabilizing
your
eroding
banks,
some
of
what
you
saw
in
those
in
that
picture
and
also
planed
planting
native
riparian
vegetation,
where
appropriate,
to
improve
riparian
habitat.
Q
So
in
2016
we
hired
an
engineering
consulting
firm
to
develop
30%
concept
plans
which
are
included
in
your
packet
that
we
included
in
various
permit
applications.
I
want
to
emphasize
that
that
these
are
only
concept
plans
and
more
detailed
plans
will
be
developed
by
a
consultant
chosen
through
the
city's
competitive
bid
process.
We're
currently
drafting
an
RFP
to
solicit
proposals
from
qualified
contractors
and
hope
to
have
that
RFP
out
by
the
end
of
the
month.
Q
That
concept
plans
include
examples
of
some
of
the
types
of
improvements
we'll
be
considering
and
that
are
shown
as
these
colored
circles
on
this
diagram.
This
is
the
first
reach
of
the
project.
They
wrote
on
the
left
hand,
side
there
is
south
polar
road
and
you're
looking
to
the
right
is
upstream
along
South.
Boulder
Creek
throughout
the
project
site
will
be
creating
low
flow
channel
to
deepen
the
channel
and
connect
habitat.
Q
Q
We'll
also
be
installing
features
such
as
Boulder
clusters.
This
happens
to
be
a
three
Boulder
cluster
they're
kind
of
variations
of
this
to
Boulder
clusters,
random
Boulder
clusters,
but
basically
they're
meant
to
create
divergent
and
convergent
flows
and
different
flow
velocities
that
provide
habitat
for
different
species.
It's
an
example
of
a
three
Boulder
cluster
on
South
Boulder
Creek.
We
installed
on
a
previous
project.
Q
So
the
partnership
between
the
city
and
Denver
Water
is
proposed
to
be
formalized
by
an
IgA.
That's
in
your
packet.
If
the
city
chooses
not
to
enter
into
the
IgA
with
Denver
water,
they
will
be
required
to
complete
mitigation
elsewhere
to
satisfy
their
404
permit
requirements.
So
the
city
is
under
no
obligation
to
provide
this
mitigation
opportunity
to
Denver
Water
whatsoever.
Until
the
point
we
enter
into
the
IgA,
the
project
is
estimated
to
cost
anywhere
from
about
350
to
more
than
500
thousand
dollars.
Q
So
if
Denver
does
fund
the
project,
it
will
free
up
open
space
funds
to
use,
on
other
other
open
space
project,
potentially
restoration
projects
moving
forward.
This
item
is
on
the
August
15
city
council
agenda.
Aware,
obviously,
have
your
recommendation
to
consider
we're
gonna
continue
to
move
forward
with
our
planning
design
and
permitting
processes
in
the
coming
months,
with
the
intent
of
completing
the
design
and
permitting
and
building
the
project
late
this
year
or
early
next
year.
Q
So
tonight
what
we're
requesting
is
that
the
open
space
Board
of
Trustees
recommends
that
City
Council
authorized
the
city
manager
to
enter
into
an
IgA
with
Denver
water
regarding
the
South
Boulder
Creek,
habitat
improvement,
project,
Joanna
and
I
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
the
project
or
about
the
IGA
or
Denver
waters.
Work
I.
C
C
Q
Q
It
would
be
difficult,
I
would
say
for
the
natural
processes
to
correct
themselves.
It
would
take
a
long
time
they
would
eventually,
but
we've
got
we
do
have
as
you
as
you
mentioned,
we've
got
some
constraints,
we've
got
infrastructure
there.
We've
got
great
controls,
basically
in
three
major
diversions
between
South
Boulder
road
and,
above
almost
to
Marshall,
Road
I'm,
actually
for
diversions.
But
you
know
they
create
some
issues
for
natural
channel
processes
and
so
we'd
like
to
help
with
the
restoration.
You
know,
help
re-establish
more
natural
conditions.
Q
B
It's
an
exciting
project.
It's
an
aggressive
project.
I
would
love
to
see
just
a
couple
more
pages
in
here.
In
your
background
that
talks
about
what
are
the
changed
conditions
on
the
South
Boulder
Creek.
What
are
the
changes
and
flows
and
peak
flows?
And
you
don't
have
to
document
every
stream
divergents
ever
happened,
but
just
sort
of
set
the
context
for
why
the
habitat
is
degraded
right
now
and
what
is
the
current
regime
of
hydrology
and
sediment,
your
morphology
that
we're
dealing
with,
because
I
think
Evans
right?
B
There
are
an
awful
lot
of
constraints
on
this
system.
I
mean
the
creeks
probably
wants
to
move
and
we're
not
gonna.
Let
it
move,
and
so
are
we
really
gonna
be
able
to
create
enough
sediment
transport
so
that
that's
going
to
become
just
more
and
more
of
an
issue
of
so
laying
out
how
the
interventions
will
be
sustainable
within
that
envelope.
That,
in
some
ways
is
pretty
tight,
I
think
would
be
very
useful
and
educational
for
the
reader
too,
and
maybe
that's
something
your
your
consultant
is
gonna.
Q
Cross-Sections
launched
a
longitudinal
profiles,
flow
regimes
and
try
to
design
a
project
that
where
we
we
create
a
more
sustainable
channel,
more
or
less
because
yeah
the
creek
wants
to
do
its
own
thing
and
between
the
diversions
and
us
36
and
south
boulder
Road.
You
know
all
of
those
things
it's
really
locked
in
it
really
is
it's
a
miraculously
high
functioning
stream
for
the
constraints
that
is
under,
but
yeah.
There
are
quite
a
few.
Q
It's
almost
like
you
have
to
look
at
this
River
in
this
project
reach
as
a
bunch
of
small
projects,
and
that's
that's
really
hard
to
do.
You've
got
these
control
points
and
great,
especially
great
control
that
we
really
have
to
take
into
account.
There's
there's
changes
in
grade
that
you
don't
see
in
normal
rivers
just
because
you've
got
4-foot
diversion
structures
on
a
channel
with
a
gradient
of
you
know,
0.9,
so
well,.
B
A
A
None
of
those
things
have
to
do
a
theme
of
a
requirement
we're
doing
her,
correct,
Sultan,
sand,
okay
right
and
then,
if
the
we've
entered
into
the
agreement,
then
we
don't
have
to
hold
the
50k
as
Adi
obligation
or
anything
like
that,
because
we
would
have
had
to
have
backed
that
money
up
out
of
our
budget,
because
we
were
gonna
give
that
back
if
they
did
not
meet
the
commitment
to
do
the
gross
reservoir
project.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
A
Just
because
that's
kind
of
near
Cherry,
Valley
and
I
was
just
wondering,
since
we
kind
of
put
such
a
eagle-eye
and
everything
we
did
on
CU
south.
When
you
get
a
little
further
down
the
road
and
you
have
more
working
documents
and
things
that
would
be
great
to
see
how
you
do
the
channelization
and
that
much
like
working
drawings
that
you
had
off
a
violet
and
up
in
that
area.
A
I
I
So
I
gather
the
history
on
this
is
the
from
staffs
point
of
view.
This
is
something
that
is
worth
doing
regardless,
but
the
whole
issue
with
grouse
creates
an
opportunity
basically
to
get
support
from
the
underwater
that
it's
opportunistic
in
that
sense,
but
the
logic
of
doing
this
was
somewhat
independent
of
whether
we
could
support
from
Denver
water
right.
Q
Q
L
B
A
A
A
Nice
I
did
teach
years
ago
a
couple
of
the
watercolor
classes
before
I
got
on
the
board
and
Lisa
Dieruff
attended
one
of
the
classes.
This
is
a
long
time
ago
and
it
was
really
neat
to
have
people
come
out
and
work.
You
know
by
the
river
and
paint
on
site,
and
so
it's
great
see
people
involved
doing
things,
definitely
our
stewardship
model.
So,
okay,
well
and.