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commissions:
thank
you,
mr.
chair,
just
a
few
items
to
call
out
that
your
next
meeting
in
august.
we're
actually
working
on
juggling
the
agenda
now
to
provide
as
much
space
as
possible
out
in
the
field
for
your
tour,,
which
is
later
we'll
talk
about.
the
outline
we've
drafted
for
that
to
get
your
input
on
that
their
thing
I
want
to
let
you
know
we
have
a
few
items
in
italics:
meeting.
we're
still
landing
the
plane
on
the
details.
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&
commissions:
I
believe.
august,
fourteenth
with
staff,
with
planning
development
services.,
and
so
after
that,
we'll
be
able
to
reach
out
to
you
all
to
to
get
your
input
and
get
some
date
set
for
some
joint
board
coordination
on
that.
on
that
matter..
The
other
thing
I
want
to
call
out
just
in
events
of
interest.
on
september
tenth,
we
are
bringing
back
what's
up,
boulder?.
This
is
an
event..
The
city
started
pre
pandemic
and
had
done
multiple
times..
It's
where
departments
from
across
the
organization.
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Board
&
commissions:
have
tables
and
outreach
opportunities,
so
they
can
learn
about
various
projects
underway
and
give
input
on
items
across
the
city..
What's
up
folder
this
year
is
being
hosted
in
at
the
site
of
the
future
park
on
violet,
and
we're
excited.,
the
parks
direct
team
will
be
doing
some
specific
engagement
related
to
that
park,
as
well
as
as
well
as
other
opportunities..
I
unfortunately
will
be
out
of
town.,
but
hopefully
you
all
can
make
it..
It
really
is
going
to
be
a
great
opportunity
for
community
input
and
to
learn
about
city
projects.
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chuck,
brock,
prab:.
The
public
is
encouraged
to
comment
on
the
need
for
parks
and
recreation
programs
and
facilities
as
they
perceive
them..
All
speakers
are
limited
to
3
min..
Depending
on
the
nature
of
your
matter..
You
may
or
may
not
receive
a
response
from
the
board
or
staff
after
you
deliver
your
comments.,
but
the
board
and
staff
are
always
listening
to
and
appreciative
of
community
feedback.
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Board
&,
commissions:
and
then,
mr.
chair,,
if
I
can.
I'd,
love
to
comment
to
the
gentleman
who
spoke
on
pickle,
ball
and
tennis,
and
just
share
at
a
very
high
level
that
that
we
hear
you
on
the
maintenance
piece,.
As
you
both
mentioned,
that.
what?,
someone
noted
that
this
year
we're
spending
$200,000
in
courts..
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
for
the
last
10
years.
up
through
last
year,
we
were
spending
about
$60,000
per
year.,
so
this
year
we've
tripled
that
number.,
it's
primarily
being
spent
at.
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Board
&
commissions:.
I
believe
we
will
clarify
those
details.
we're.
Actually,
our
team
is
preparing
a
really
nice
web
update.
Now
on
our
court
system,
plan.
that'll
clarify
for
the
current
courts
that
we
have,
how
we're
gonna,
take
better
care
of
them
and
prioritize
maintenance,,
and
also
consider
the
distribution
of
them,
which
are
dedicated
and
or
shared.
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Board
&
commissions:,
so
I'd
encourage
you
to
check
our
website
in
the
next.,
probably
by
the
end
of
next
week.
We'll
have
a
nice
update
on
line
with
timelines,
where
we'll
have
it
more
information.
and
when
decisions
will
be
made
about
court's
investments..
Just
one
last
note
that
the
budget
that
our
city
council,
review
in
september
and
october
has
us
spending
$400,000
per
year
for
the
next
5
years
on
court
maintenance..
We
know
we're
behind,
and
we're
going
to
be
working
hard
to
catch
up.
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Board
&,
commissions:,
yeah.
and
I'll
just
note
for
all
of
the
prab
members..
We
know
you.
as
a
decided
on
liaison's,
next
month,
and
so
over..
It's
on
our
list.
I'll.
Just
give
you
all
a
heads
up
now
that
we're
in
the
final
steps
of
the
sydney's
internal
budget
process,,
which
is
taking
up
an
incredible
amount
of
time.
in
the
next
month
or
so.
You
should
expect
to
hear
from
anyone
who
is
a
liaison.
we'll
get
an
update
from
a
teammate
on
what
that
looks
like
and
what
your
timeline
is.
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Board
&
commissions:,
it's
been
in
place.
and
really
it
just
has
to
be,
where
we're
doing
some
of
the
deep
foundations
of
utilities..
So
we'll
try
to
compact
those
into
the
earlier
parts
and
get
that
all
set,
and
then
get
that
machinery
out
of
there
as
soon
as
we
can.
so
so
far,
it
hasn't
really
impacted
the
the
end
of
the
timeline.
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Board
&
commissions:
and
did
you
want
to
add
in
tina?
tina,
can
add?
In
why,
we
decided
with
this
partner,
she's
managing
that
project
also.,
so
she
can
add,
why,
with
this
particular
partnership,,
and
I
also
see
stephanie
monroe
with
regional
facilities,
this
year.
why,.
I
think
your
next
question
would
be,
why
this
project?
right?.
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Board
&
commissions:,
so
in
this
case
it
really
is
in
a
commercial,
real
estate.
it
in
a
way,
when
we're
looking
at
like
finding
a
lesse
and
a
partner
at
the
same
time..
So
what
we
realized
in
some
of
our
previous
opportunities
was
that
the
standard
rfp
process
that
we
use
isn't
really
the
same
place
that
people
who
might
want
to
be
a
restaurant
vendor
partner
are
looking
at..
So
we
we?
we
talk
to.
J
Board
&
commissions:
a
commercial
real
estate
agent
to
help
us
follow
the
sort
of
the
process
that
we
would
really
normally
use
for
city..
And
how
do
we
bundle
that
with
how
the
commercial
industry
actually
works??
So
they
really
just
helping
us
find
the
city
government
process
with
that
commercial
real
estate
blend,
so
that
we
get
a
better
list
of
partners
and
opportunities.
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Board
&
commissions:
manage
vegetation
on
public
space.
and
that
that
caught
our
attention.
sure,
I'll
let
her
answer.
This.
so,,
regina
elsner,,
you
all
don't
always
hear
from..
She
is
our
senior
manager
for
natural
resources,
and
includes
both
the
urban
ranger
and
natural
lands
team..
So
she
has
2
teams
working
on
this
project.
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Board
&
commissions:
yeah.,
so
wondering,
like,
is
a
unique
kind
of
area
where
we
have
a
lot
of
that
area
managed
as
more
of
a
natural
area.,
so
it
is.
taller
grasses
and
things
like
that..
But
we
have.
Our
operations.
team
are
out
there
pretty
regularly,
anyways,
and
they
had
started
to
notice
over
time
more
and
more
encroachments
into
the
public
property..
And
it's
not
just
vegetation
management..
It
can
be
things.
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Board
&
commissions:
different
hos.,
so
we're
communicating
with
them
primarily,
we're
communicating
with
the
hos
to
be
a
a
mechanism
for
education
and
outreach
with
their
residents..
So
we
can
avoid
this.
in
the
future.
We
will
be
contacting
each
property
owner
individually,
because
it's
their
responsibility
to
remove
the
encroachment
from
the
public
property..
So
we
are
working
on
first
notices
to
go
out
to
those
private
property
owners.
in
the
next
less
than
month.
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K
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,
check
absolutely..
Our
goal
is
to,,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
offense.,
that's
offline..
Our
our
goal
is
not
to
have
them
immediately
rip
down
their
fence
and
realign
that
to
make
it.
make
sure
it's
on
the
property
line,,
and
I
should
clarify
that
that
error
is
the
error
in
the
survey
line
that
we
have
is
up
to
6
inches
one
way
or
the
other,,
but
we
were
specifically
seeking
out
encroachments
that
are
a
foot
or
more
over
that
line.
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Board
&
commissions:
there
could
be.
there's
certainly
risk
exposure
for
the
city
if
there
were
to
be
a
play,
equipment
that
is,.
That
is
not
well
maintained
in
the
city's
aware
of
it
and
doesn't
remove
it.
and
there
could
be
an
injury..
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
real
extreme
examples
that
we
could
use,,
but
there
is
exposure
to
the
city.
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Board
&
commissions:,
I
I
want
to
add
just
one
thing
on
chuck's
note,.
This
is
probably
one
of
our
least
favorite
things
to
do,,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
ways
to
do
this
for
pete..
You
know
that
the
response
is
going
to
be..
Don't
you
have
something
better
to
do?,
but
the
reality
is
that
protecting
public
property
is
one
of
our
responsibilities,
and
probably
one
of
our
our
most
important
ones,,
to
make
sure
that
public
space
remains
available
for
the
public.
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Board
&
commissions:,
I'm
looking
at
tina,
and
she's
generously
agreeing.
I
mean,
in
theory,.
Both
of
these
items
help
we've
discussed
before.
and
I
believe,
you're
making
that
suggested
out
of
accommodation..
We
have
members
of
the
community
here
to
speak
for
the
public
hearing,,
and
so
I
think
that
that
we're
always
happy
to
support
that.
If
the
board
will.
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E
Board
&
commissions:,
while
we
reconfigure
up
here.
I'll
just
introduce
this
item
so
as
a
reminder
to
members
of
the
board.,
a
formal
fee
policy
is
one
of
the
leading
practices
is
identified
by
the
american
academy.
for
parks
and
recreation
accreditation..
It
is
something
that
our
department
has
had
informally
in
place
over
the
years
through
the
way
of
multiple
different
prep
memos.
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Board
&
commissions:,
all
right,
good,
and
even
everyone.,
as
I
mentioned,
jackson
height,
business
services.
Manager.
we've
been
talking
with
you
about
the
fee
policy
since
march
of
this
year.
so
hopefully..
This
is
on
a
lot
of
new
information..
We
did
share
the
draft
fee
policy
with
you
last
month,
and
have
made
some
minor
tweaks
to
it..
It
is
included
as
attachment.
e,
with
the
red
lines
in
your
package
and
attachment.
a
is
what
we're
going
to
be
asking
you
to
adopt
tonight.
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Board
&
commissions:
low
income.,
I
age,
based
discounts
and
financial
assistance
to
our
facilities.,
so
really
just
wanted
to
hit
home.,
but
we
do
have
a
limited
amount
of
subsidy
within
parks
and
recreation..
We
do
think
that
we
could
offer
every
service
under
the
world.,
but
the
reality
is,.
It's
not
always
financially
responsible
to
do
so,
and
we
do
receive
a
set
amount
of
subsidy..
So
we
try
to
prioritize
that
in
a
way
that's
equitable
to
the
community
and
reflects
the
values.
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Board
&
commissions:.
So,
as
we've
been
talking
about.,
there
was
4
different
program
types
that
did
have
a
set
fee
policy
from
various
prep
memos..
We
went
back
to
2,015
when
the
initial
parks
and
recreation
plan
was
adopted,,
and
then
there
was
several
others
that
had
informal
policies.
but
was
very
hard
to
pinpoint..
What
the
perhaps
stated
intent
was.
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Board
&
commissions:.
We
have
gone
through
all
of
these
to
create
the
fee
policy
for
you.,
and
this
really
looks
at
the
3
levels
of
recreation
programming,
community
recreation.
and
this
exclusive
should
now
say,
individual,
as
reflected
in
your
packet,.
We
just
and
then
update
that
graphic
as
a
reminder,
taxes
typically
pay
for
community,,
whereas
user
fees
pay
for
individual
benefit.
Programs.
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Board
&
commissions:,
you
all
have
provided
a
lot
of
input
as
far
as
where
you
believe
the
cost.
recovery
targets
should
be.
and
we're
incredibly
grateful
of
that..
Last
month,
we
did
ask
for
your
input
on
the
draft
fee
policy
and
all
the
feedback
that
we
received
was
heard,
and
we
went
back
and
reviewed
it.
as
a
core
team,
as
well
as
with
our
program
staff
across
the
department
to
make
sure
that
there
wasn't
anything
else
that
we
are
missing.
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Board
&
commissions::
we
did
provide
some
additional
clarification..
This
was
primarily
from
staff
input
that
focused
on
who
our
market
analysis
would
target
that..
The
subsidy
is
not
intended
to
undercut
the
market
for
a
various
activity..
We
don't
want
to
undercut
the
market
where
we
basically
prevent
competition
and
therefore
are
going
to
encourage
remaining
competitive
with
the
overall
market.
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Board
&
commissions:.
We
also
had
a
few
of
the
program
types
that
included
a
upper
limit
to
the
cost,
recovery
targets
and
everything
else
did
not
have
a
target..
It
was
basically
whatever
the
market
could
bear,
and
just
thinking
of
balancing
the
overall,
funding
as
being
able,
as
well
as
taking,,
perhaps
previous
feedback,,
of
charging.
What
the
market
could
bear..
We
did
remove
the
upper
limit
to
the
cost.
recovery,
targets.
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Board
&
commissions:,
we
had
admitted.
admit.,
omitted
the
commercial
use
program,
type
from
the
original
draft.,
so
that
was
included
in
and
that
does
include
various
examples
of
what
we
include
with
commercial
use,
programs.
and
then,
finally,.
There
was
some
minor
language
clean
up
throughout
and
spelling,,
but
those
were
the
key
changes
that
we
really
made
within
the
plan.
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Board,
&
commissions:,
something
that
this
board
had
asked
about
was
a
fee
schedule.
This
would
be
a
listing
of
all
of
the
various
types
of
fees
that
the
department
offers..
We
are
currently
starting
this
process
with
our
staff
of
examining
all
of
our
current
fees,,
their
current
cost,
recovery,,
and
our
intent
is
to
return
to
you
in
september
with
what
the
2024
fees
would
be
for
all
of
the
various
program.
Types.
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Board
&
commissions::
this
would
be
about
a
10
page
document
that
really
simplifies
and
provides
clarity
to
both
our
staff
and
the
public,.
As
far
as
what
the
fees
that
we
charge
and
why,,
and
by
looking
at
this
and
comparing
it
to
our
actual
cost
of
delivering
these
services,,
we
will
identify
what
the
cost.
recovery
targets
are.
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L
Board
&
commissions:
updates
in
the
recreation
program
guide
and
then
signage
at
all
of
our
major
facilities..
This
is
very
similar
to
the
same
process
we
did
in
2019
for
the
2020
fee
increase,
as
well
as
in
2022
for
the
2,023
fee
increase..
So
we
do
feel
as
if
we
have
a
good
strategy
in
place
and
really
look
forward
to
making
sure
that
the
community
is
aware
of
this.
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Board
&
commissions:,
the
board
&
commissions:,
the
city
manager
rule,
is
in
the
brc
fuller,
revised
code
that
allows
us
to
go
through
the
city
manager
rule
to
publish
various
parks
and
recreation
fees..
The
thought
process
behind
this
back
in
2,014,,
when
it
was
decoupled
from
a
formal
fee.
codified
fee
was
the
parks,
and
recreation
needs
to
be
a
bit
more
nimble
and
react.
Accordingly.
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Board
&
commissions:
the
fee
schedule
as
proposed,
is
something
that
will
be
asking
for
the
prep.
feedback
on
the
actual
document
that
gets
published
is
the
city
manager
rule,,
and
that's
more
just
the
legal
language
that
goes
into
it.,
that
city
attorney's
office,
reviews.
okay?,
so
you'll
come
to
us
for
feedback
on
it.,
but
the
city
manage.,
you
will
issue.,
you
guys,
will
issue
a
a
rule..
That
is
the
fee
policy
through
the
city
managers
office..
Once
we
have
your
approval.
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Board
&
commissions:.
The
intention
with
the
fee
policy
is
basically
to
align
with
the
22
plan
guidance
where
the
community
wanted
to
support
youth
seniors,
financial
aid
programs..
So
our
intention
is
to
take
some
of
the
existing
programs.
We
have
in
place
for
our
third
party
memberships,,
where
we
encourage
scholarship
being
for
x
percent
of
their
participants.
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Board
&
commissions:.
We
will
be
working
through
that
with
our
existing
programs.,
where
we
do
do
this,.
We
do
ask
to
audit
their
program
registration
after
the
fact
or
for
any
of
our
existing
programs
where
we
collect
registration..
We
already
have
everyone
who's
qualified
for
financial
aid
in
a
given
calendar
year
that
we
would
rely
on
that
to
verify
eligibility.
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Board
&
commissions:
overview
or
like
review?
yes,.
It
has
already
gone
through
the
review.,
both
stacy
and
scott,
presented
to
the
community
connectors
and
residents.
the
program
that
looks
and
evaluates
it.,
equitable
impacts
across
the
board..
So
in
preparation
for
that
meeting.,
we
did
provide
the
racial
equity
instrument
completed
for
the
fee
policy
and
gathered
their
feedback.
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Board
&
commissions:
review?,
or
is
that
all?
just
through
the
community
connectors?
the
racial
equity
instrument
is
a
tool
that
all
stat,
or
I'm
sorry
majority
of
staff
are
trained
in
to
go
through..
So
we
had
a
team
of
5
or
6
of
us
who
went
through
the
racial
equity
instrument..
We
did
share
that
with
anna
sylvia
and
others
in
the
racial
equity
office
to
share
with
the
community
connectors
in
residence..
So
it
has
been
reviewed
by
anna
silvia
directly.
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Board
&
commissions:,
and
then
I
just
noticed,
when
I
did
read
it,,
I
didn't
see
equity
mentioned
in
the
document..
We
had
included
a
good
amount
on
it
last
month.,
and
just
because
there
was
minor
changes,,
we
focus
more
on
what
the
high
level
changes
were.,
but
thank
you..
That
is
a
great
clarifying
point
on
equity.
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E
Board
&
commissions:,
if
you're
saying
it
isn't
clear
in
the
actual
policy
that
equity
is
a
goal
that
we
want
to
make
sure
to
achieve.
we're
going
to..
We
probably
I'm
guessing
we'll
make
amendments
to
the
policy.
If
you
all
approve
it
tonight,,
because
that's
going
to
be
important
that
it's
clear
in
the
actual
policy.
does
the
policy
what
was
in
the
packet
for
tonight?
or
is
that
the
the
memo
and
the
policy
are
part
of
the
packet.?
And
so
that's
why
I
read
the
whole
thing..
I
don't
remember
seeing
equity
standing
out
as.
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A
E
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A
E
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,
check..
What
you're
talking
about
is
exactly
what
we
talked
about
with
this
application
process..
So
I'm
going
to
give
an
example
right
now
of
one
of
the
ways
that
we've
allocated
pool
time
in
this
past.
in
the
past
is
through
a
space
allocation
practice,,
where
we
had
groups
give
us
information
about
their
club..
How
many
people
are
you
serving??
How
many
of
them
live
in
the
city
of
boulder??
How
many
are
you?
and
we
get
information
about
that?
and
then,
based
upon
the
information
they
give
us,?
We
would.
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Board
&
commissions:,
based
upon
alignment.,
and
what
we've
we've
heard
from
the
community,
right?,
the
youth
are
most
important.
what?.
What
I
envision
happen
next
for
anyone?,
and
this
may
not
be
a
one
year
outcome.,
it
might
be
a
2
year
outcome,,
but
my
hope
is
that
anyone
who
is
a
user
of
city
boulder
facilities
can
understand
what
the
community's
goals
are
for
parks
and
recreation,,
because
I
think,,
as
you
heard
in
the
declaration
earlier
tonight,,
we
can
achieve
it.
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Board
&
commissions:
for
a
actually,,
since
I
don't
know
if
mark
is
still
listening,
but
for
boulder
community,
row,
and
I'll
give
an
example.
part
of
the
ways..
You
all
have
seen
the
recreation
priority
index.
Before.
ways
that
groups
can
demonstrate
benefit
is
by
having
a
targeted
health
benefit..
So
if
they
have
programming
design
specifically
for
people
who
suffer
from
a
specific
neurogenerative
disease
as
an
example
or
a
heart
condition
serving
youth,
certainly
as
a
benefit.
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Board
&
commissions:,
so
all
of
the
ways
that
we
measure
benefit
of
our
programs
to
price
them
are
ways
that
community
community
groups
can
achieve
discounts..
My
hope,
is,
and
and
part
of
my
dream
for
our
24
or
25
action
plan
is
that
anyone
who
rent
city
of
boulder
facilities,,
whether
it's
a
youth
soccer
club
or
a
rowing
group,
or
whatever,
is
going
to
be
inspired
to
achieve
some
of
the
goals
that
the
community
has
for
health
and
well
being,,
so
that
they
can
get
discounts
on
us.
E
E
Board
&
commissions:,
so
the
the
cost
to
rent
this
is
full
cost
recovery,
and
that's
the
standard
across
our
industry.,
and
you
saw
lots
of
those
benchmarks..
I
believe
it
was
in
may..
If
someone
wants
a
discount,,
then
that's
where
they
need
to
demonstrate
alignment
with
with
community
values
for
parks
and
recreation.
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Board
&
commissions:
everything
we
do..
We
want
it
to
promote
health
and
well
being
right.,
so
rowing,
of
course,
it
promotes
health
and
well
being.
is
it?.
Is
it
aligning
as
much
as
a
free
park
that
everyone
can
access?
it's
not.
and
that's
why
there's
fees
right??
So
we
have
to
be
able
to
demonstrate.
it's
not
about
something,
not
providing
value..
It's
just.
How
do
you
allocate
finite
resources?.
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B
B
L
L
L
board,
&
commissions:,
so
therefore,
we
are
relying
more
on
user
fees
to
deliver
our
services
and
programs.
and
additionally,.
Boulder
is
expensive
to
offer
services
and
programs
from
our
living
wage
and
minimum
wage
cost
of
labor
cost
of
utilities..
We
do
see
that
they
are
rather
higher
than
surrounding
communities.
and
especially
national
benchmarks,,
that
we
are
really
just
looking
for
cost
recovery,
here.
and
it's
part
of
doing
business.
E
E
Board
&
commissions:
body
of
recreational
water,,
it's
water
storage
for
the
city.,
and
so
anything
that
happens
on
that
water
has
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
any
impacts
it
might
have
on
water,
quality.
and
so
any
watercraft
at
the
boulder
reservoir
pays
full
cost
recovery
for
aquatics,
new
and
species
program.
That's
going
to
make
it
much
more
expensive
than.
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Board
&
commissions:.
I
know
people
who
row
you
know.,
you
can
row
for
free
on
the
potomac..
You
can
row
for
free
in
the
northwest,
and
all
kinds
of
waterways
throughout
oregon
and
washington..
That's
very
different
from
here,,
where
there
is
one
place
where
you
can
row.
and
unfortunately,
it's
it's.
It's
not
a
free
body
of
water.
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Board
&
commissions::
it's
been
clear
on
the
memos,
and
I
appreciate
you
calling
out
that
perhaps
we
missed
it.,
it
looks
like
we
did..
I
know
jackson
over
here,
shaking
his
head.,
it's
not
clear
there,
and
it
should
be,,
and
so
I
would
love
you
all
to
approve
it.
and
note
that
we're
going
to
add
language
highlighting,,
probably
language,
you've
seen
before
in
memos.,
and
so
if
you're
comfortable,
approving
it..
So
I
guess
you
have
2
options.
E
Board,
&
commissions:.
I
would
love
you
not
to
approve
it,
as
it
is,,
because
I
think
this
is
important
to
align
with
the
city's
values,
and
what
we've
heard
from
the
community..
So
I
I
think
you
have
2
options.
one,.
You
could
approve
it..
Recognizing
staff
will
be
making
edits
to
highlight
the
importance
of
achieving
equity,
or
you
could
ask
us
to
bring
it
back
to
you
so
that
you
could
review
those
edits.
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A
A
A
Board
&
commissions:-
this
isn't
this.,
I
I
guess
I'll
make
clear,
and
especially
because
I
know
we're
still
on
boarding,
2
new
board
members..
This
is
not
a
required
function
of
the
prep..
This
is
one
of
the
shells,
or
sorry
one
of
the
maze
we
think
it's
important
to
show
for
the
policy
to
have
heft
and
wait,
and
also
to
have
included
the
board's.
input..
As
this
goes
forwards
to
council.-
so
it's
not
a
roll
call.
A
E
E
Board
&
commissions:.
Last
month
you
all
talked
about
the
historic
places
plan.,
and
so
you
asked
a
bunch
of
questions..
Then
tina
is
responding
to
that..
So
this
will
all
a
very
similar
process..
It
it'll
start
with
a
staff
presentation.,
you
ask
questions..
I
don't
believe
we
have
anyone
signed
up
for
a
public
hearing,.
He
would
have
a
discussion.,
then
take
a
boat.
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Board
&
commissions:,
as
I
just
said,
I
was
here
last
month,
and
we
kind
of
we've
been
kind
of
walking
through
pieces
of
the
historic
places.
plan,
as
we
go.
the
last
part
that
we
showed
you
were
the
priorities
for
each
property,,
and
then
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
next
steps.,
so
just
I'll
go
through
quickly.,
just
some
things
that
we
talked
about
and
even
before
I
dip
into
the
hip,,
because
last
month
I
also
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
stark
district.
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J
J
J
Board
&
commissions:,
the
civic
area,
is
such
a
big
central
park
of
our
our
community
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right..
One
of
the
landmarks
board
members.
was
very
clear
that
making
sure
the
community
engagement
was
done.
well,,
so
the
entire
community
is
aware
of
what's
happening.
and
kuwait
on
it.,
so.
J
Board
&
commissions:,
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
currently
staff.
and
the
applicants
are
working
together.
with
the
board
landmarks
board
to
to
figure
out
what
that
timeline.
Should
look.
Like.
it'll
likely
extend,
probably,,
like
about
2
months,,
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more
time
for
their
research
on
the
engagement.
J
J
Board
&
commissions:-
and
this
is
just
that
quick
reminder..
I
know
we
have
some
folks
in
our
community
who
are
really
passionate
about
particular
properties.,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
these
properties
are
all
kind
of
done
at
the
same
level..
So
just
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit.
Too.
well,
we're
in
this
purpose,
though..
This
is
intended
also
to
be
a
living
document,,
which
means,
once
it's
kind
of
what
we
call
complete
today
for
an
acceptance.
J
J
J
J
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Board
&
commissions:.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr.
chair..
So
this
item
is
gonna,
be
presented,.
I
believe,
by
regina
elsner,,
our
senior
manager
for
natural
resources,
and
our
ranger
supervisor
aaron
morrell.
they're,
both
on
their
way
up
here.,
but
just
wanna
highlight..
We
agreed
with
the
agenda
community..
This
board
has
had
lots
of
questions
about
how
we're
managing
safety
and
public
spaces..
The
ranger
program
was
funded
in
2021
with
the
pilot,
and
really
has
been
picking
up
speed,
so
wanted
you
all
to
have
the
opportunity
to.
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Board
&
commissions:,
so
we
have
a
total
of
3
full
time,
rangers,
and
then
2
seasonal
6,
month
rangers.
and
with
that,.
Just
as
a
kind
of
brief
introduction
about
our
history,,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
aaron
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
who
the
rangers
are
and
what
they
do,
and
for
our
parks
and
community..
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
and
we
mostly
connect
people
to
the
resources
that
we
have
in
our
parks..
We
talk
to
people
about
what's
available
to
them,,
where
they
can
go
for
better
options:
sometimes.
and
then,
obviously,.
We
address
violations
as
well.,
so
the
number
one
violation
that
we
deal
with
are
generally
relating
to
dogs
and
other
animals,,
and
then
trespassing
and
property
damage
followed
that
up.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:
yeah.
board
&
commissions:.
We
collaborate
with
a
lot
of
the
different
departments.
Like,,
I
told
you,
housing
human
services
for
sure..
We
also
work
with
the
police
department
on
issues
like
criminal
issues
that
we're
seeing
in
the
parks,
for
example..
There
was
a
lot
of
drug
use
happening
at
north
boulder
park
during
little
league
practices,,
and
that's
not
something
we
want
to
see
during
little
week
practices..
So
we
worked
with
them
to
create
additional
patrols.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:.
We
do
a
lot
of
robing
interpretation.,
so
far.
rangers
love
the
outdoors..
We
are
a
little
bit
nerdy
most
of
the
times
when
it
comes
to
nature
and
sharing
that
with
the
community.,
but
some
other
things
that
we've
been
working
on
is
bike.
Safety.
you'll
see
spencer
there
on
the
left,,
helping
out
with
a
bike
rodeo
that
he
put
on
with
mitch
trujio
from
the
boulder
police
department.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
B
B
Board
&
commissions::
how
does
that
break
down?
kind
of
like,?
What
are
the
dog
related?
kind
of
code
violations?
You're
constantly
seeing.
yeah.,
so
the
first
one
is
dog
at
large.,
so
dogs
running
around
unleashed..
The
second
one
is
voice
and
side
control
regulations
dealing
with
the
tags
where
people
can
have
their
dogs
off
leash
and
making
sure
it's
in
the
right,
areas.
they're
doing
it
in
the
right,
way.
and.
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Board
&
commissions:
park
rules
and
problems,
park
rules
and
issues.
that
go
directly
to
me,,
and
otherwise
we
also
have
a
urban
ranger
hotline.
that
is,
(303)
441-4418..
It
is
a
a
public
line
that
anybody
can
call
during
our
working
hours
and
on
duty.
ranger
will
answer,
or
you
can
leave
a
message,
and
then
they
click
back
to
you..
Q
P
Q
P
K
Board
&
commissions:,
so
just
to
clarify,
if
you
call
the
boulder
police
department,
non
emergency
dispatch,
line,,
which
I
believe
is
(303)
441-3333.-
that
will
get
you
through
to
a
a
dispatcher
who
can
dispatch
our
urban
rangers
directly
from
that
call,
and
so
anytime
that
there
is
a
park
issue..
You
are
welcome
to
call
that
non
emergency
dispatch
line
and
request
a
park
ranger
to
come,
and
if
they
are.
K
K
Board
&
commissions:
is
another
great
alternative.,
but
that
being
said,,
they
don't
always
re
answer
that
phone
number
off.
If
they're
in
the
field,
interacting
with
the
visitor,,
they
may
not
answer
that
phone
number
directly.,
and
so
you
may
not
get
as
immediate
or
a
response,,
but
not
emergency,
is
a
great
way
to
contact
our
our
on
duty,
officers.
P
P
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:
tend
to
give
animal
protection
those
higher
safety
issues
like
when
it
comes
to
impounding
a
dog,
or
there's
an
injury..
They
are
the
one
they're
the
experts
on
on
that
kind
of
stuff.
when
it
comes
to
general
violations
like
dogs
on
the
mall,
dogs,
off
leash
voice
and
site
control,
regulations
rangers.
Q
B
A
A
A
A
E
Board
&
commissions:
the
urban
park
rangers.,
their
commission
is
through
a
municipal
judge,
and
they
can
enforce
against
municipal
code.,
and
so
that's
where,.
If
you
think
of
the
boulder
revised
code,,
we
have
code
of
ground
behavior
in
parks..
We
have
code
around
like
the
voice
and
site
program.
aaron
mentioned
anything
that
is
a
crime
that
is,
against
state
statutes
or
other..
Our
our
officers
are
not
commissioned
to
enforce.
P
Q
Q
C
C
A
E
E
B
M
M
R
Board
&
commissions:
okay,
thanks.
check
board,
&,
commissions:
and
thanks.
prab.
It's
really
great
to
be
here
again.
I
just
again.
shihomi
korea.,
I'm
a
senior
landscape
architect
with
the
parks
department..
I
last
spoke
on
civic
area
phase,
2.
reimagining
back
in
january,
so
just
reintroduction
of
myself..
I
know
there's
been
new
board
members
since
then,
and
I
would
love
to
walk
you
through..
We
did
a
soft
kick
off
in
january.
we're
in
a
scoping.
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
a
little
bit
of
context,
I'll
start
with
again,
just
for
new
board
members,.
Since
it's
been
so
long
and
just
a
reminder
of
what
we
last
talked
about.
I'll
walk.
You
then,
through
the
changes
to
scope
items
like
I've
mentioned
before,
decision
making
process
where
prab
fits
into
some
milestones
along
that
timeline,,
the
updated
project
timeline,
and
again,
a
high
level.
look
at
what
our
engagement
plan
is
shaping
up
to
be.
R
R
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
right
now,
we're
in
schematic
design.,
and
so
the
rfp.
or
request
for
proposal,
is
asking
design
teams
to
propose
on
this
next
phase..
We
have
gone
through
the
planning
processes
shown
here.
in
the
first
half
of
this
arrow,
we
went
to
conceptual
design,
and
that
process
was
really
from
2,012
to
2,015..
R
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
for
the
majority
of
the
civic
area,
as
you'll
see
in
a
second.,
but
I
just
wanted
to
highlight.
You'll
see
these
checkpoints
where
we
have
in
here
for
prab
they
align
with
what's
in
bright
blue
included
in
our
scope.,
so
we've
asked,.
What
will
be
the
new
design
team.
once
we've
gone
through
an
approval
process
to
take
us
through
a
planning
analysis.
R
R
R
Board,
&,
commissions:,
and
so
that's
definitely
inclusive
of
looking
at
design..
And
what
are
we
doing
in
terms
of
the
arbor
reading
path
and
connecting
up
to
that
new
development?
for,
see
you..
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
note
that
that
tale
is
included
in
the
next
phase
of
the
scope,
and
when
I
zoom
in
you
can
really
see
all
the
assets
and
infrastructure
that
will
be
studying
in
the
planning
phase,
as
well
as
taking
into.
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
this
diagram
is
just
a
look
at
the
effort
that
we
are
really
leading.,
it's
great
to
be
a
partner.
and
as
we
are
leading
this
project
for
vpr,,
we
are
working
closely
with
everything
you
see
in
the
pink.
Is
the
facilities
department
scope
that
we
will
work
together
on
in
terms
of
the
analysis
and
looking
at
potential
building,
reprogramming.
R
Board
&
commissions:
we're
working
with
the
planning
department
in
terms
of
the
east
bookend
and
doing
some
market
study
analysis,
and
how
we
can
best
utilize
the
space
right
now,.
It's
a
lot
of
open
parking,
lot,,
right?
and
so,.
How
can
we
really
capitalize
off
of
a
development
in
that
area?
and
what
does
that
mean
for
the
part
really??
How
does
it
stitch
into
the
park?
and
how
does
it
inform
the
park?
Design?.
R
R
C
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,,
and
it
can
be
hard
to
see
on
the
screen.,
but
that
is
where
everything
sort
of
comes
together
includes
that
green
of
bpr,
community
vitality.
Is
that
blue?
and
then
transportation
scope
is
the
green
as
well
as
that
being
bounded
by
the
black
dash
line
of
planning..
So
it
really
almost
includes
all
departments
on
thirteenth
street.
R
R
R
R
N
R
Board
&
commissions:,
so
with
the
changes?
I'll
just
know,
I
highlighted
the
task.
Outline.
we
brought
this
up
last
time.
task
is
0
is
really
all
internal.,
and
this
is
what
I
was
talking:
about,
really
kicking
off
in
january.,
so
the
staff,
scope
and
planning
phase,
as
well
as
developing
that
community
engagement
plan..
So
what
we've
released
for
rfp
are
the
tasks
one
through
3,.
You
see
in.
R
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:,
so
our
decision
making
process,
I
wanted
to
highlight
the
levels
of
where
we
engage.
Prab.
we,
of
course,
have
our
master
plan
document.,
that's
already
approved
by
council
in
2,015..
So
that
is
the
guiding
framework
that
we
will
be
using
to
make
all
of
our
decisions
as
staff
and
the
consultant
work
together,,
making
technical
decisions
and
also
collecting
data.
R
Board
&
commissions:
part
of
that
data
will
be
the
windows
of
engagement.
and
of
course,
doing
outreach
to
the
community
and
getting
feedback
perspectives
of
the
park..
What
did
we
do?
right
in
phase
one.?
What's
missing
in
those
implementations?
and
again,
phase,
one
is
out
there
in
in
the
ground,
today,
between
the
library
and
municipal
building
and
north
of
boulder
creek.
R
Board
&
commissions:.
That
will
also
include
those
checkpoints
that
I
showed
at
the
beginning,
slide.
those
windows
align
with
the
areas
that
I
showed
for
the
proud
milestones.
so
we'll
be
coming
back
to
prab.,
we'll
be
letting
you
know
how
the
windows
of
engagement
went,,
what
we
heard
key
takeaways
from
that
process,
as
well
as
when
we
get
down
into
design.,
we'll
look
at
board,
recommendations
and
reviews.,
so
that
will
be
in
schematic
design.
R
B
R
Board
&
commissions:.
We
are
here
at
the
beginning
of
q.
3
in
2,023,
for
this
project.
Schedule.
we're
gonna
have
to
do
a
lot
of
that
planning
analysis,
the
vision
and
values
which
is
sort
of
sort
of
going
back
to
that
master
plan..
We
had
several
guiding
principles,
or
the
vision
and
values
of
the
master
plan,
and
because
it
was
done
in
2,015..
We
want
to
just
make
sure.
R
R
Board
&
commissions::
when
we
talk
about
construction
and
implementation.,
it
will
really
be
guided
by
what
we've
done
in
schematic
design.
in
terms
of
pricing.
Right?,
we'll
really
figure
out
the
budget
that
we
have,
what
can
be
funded
now,,
and
so
that
will
really
guide
us
on
what
can
be
implemented
in
phase
2.
and
then
what
needs
to
be
pushed
to
a
phase
3.
R
R
Board,
&
commissions:,
so
what's
up?
boulder
will
be
happening
september
tenth,
and
we'll
be
there
just
to
share
the
kick
off
of
civic
area,
along
with
other
parks
and
rec
programs
that
will
be
commencing.
and
so
gathering
emails
from
the
community
checking
general
interest
and
making
sure
everybody's
aware..
For
when
we
have
updates.
we'll
be
doing
news
blasts.
R
R
Board
&
commissions:,
once
the
consultant
team
comes
on,,
we
really
do
kick
off
the
formal
window
of
engagement
in
february
2024.,
so
this
is
just
informing
the
community
of
what
the
planning
process
will
consist
of,
and
then
collecting
perspectives
on
how
the
park
is
working
today,
and
what
they
want
to
see,.
What
they're
looking
forward
to
in
the
future.
R
Board
&
commissions:.
So
as
we
move
through
the
years.,
you
can
see
vision
and
values..
That's
still
part
of
the
analysis.
that'll
be
july
2024,,
as
we
move
into
design,
it'll
be
march
2,025.
and
so
we'll
look
at.
Maybe
not
the
entire
plan
changing
for
3
different
options.,
but
maybe
key
areas
will
have
some
alternative.
R
R
N
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
a
community
plan.,
but
that
will
definitely
include
open
houses
for
general
community..
It
will
possibly
look
at
community
connectors.
when
we
say
stakeholder
focus,.
The
stakeholders
will
be
used
to
really
help
us
integrate
with
the
community
because
they
have
such
a
bigger
reach,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
are
inclusive
of
the
entire
community
rather
than
starting
from
one
neighborhood
at
a
time..
If
that
makes
sense.
N
R
Board
&
commissions:.
It
actually
really
is
just
up
to
how
we
would
like
to
utilize
the
engagement
of
community
connectors..
The
problem
with
the
civic
area
is
again
it..
It
needs
to
touch
almost
every
neighborhood.,
and
so
we
really
need
to
think,
rethink,.
If
we
use
the
community
connectors?,
are
they
a
part
of
a
stakeholder
group??
Are
they
a
part
of
a
larger
nonprofit??
Do
they
have
connection
to.
E
Board
&
commissions:
I'll
offer
a
recommendation..
What
I
think
we
can
do
with
the
community.
connectors
and
residents
is
twofold..
One
is
that
we
will
develop
a
full
and
and
more
while
we
have
the
the
framework
of
the
engagement
plan
is
being
developed
once
it's
complete.
one
ways,
the
community
connectors
and
residents,
and
get
input
on
thoughtful,
meaningful
place
based.
E
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:.
The
consult
part
of
this
would
be
through
listening
to
what
areas
of
improvement
are
working
for:
them.
again,
between
the
library
and
the
municipal
building
and
north
of
boulder
creek,,
as
well
as
the
existing
areas
in
that
blue
scope
area,
that
we
looked
at
together..
So
really,
kind
of
a
comprehensive
data
collection
on
the
users
of
the
space
and
what
they'd
like
to
see.
R
R
R
R
R
R
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
R
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,,
thanks
for
that
check..
So
the
first
question
on
the
arboretum
path,,
we
definitely
have
started
conversation
with,,
see
you
on
potential
partnering
with
the
path..
I
know
they
have
a
lot
of
students,
and
with
the
new
conference
center
and
hotel,
they'll
have
even
more
population
using
the
multimodal
path
out
there
today..
So
absolutely
looking
at
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
partnership
will
be
included
in
boulder
high
as
well.,
and
we
do
know
that,
while
we.
R
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
include
that
into
the
overall
design
and
really
create
a
great
landing
space
at
the
base,
right
in
here
south
of
arapaho
and
connection
up
to
thirteenth..
This
will
really
be
a
key
connector
up
to
pearl
street.,
so
really,,
looking
at
all
of
the
area
around
to
connect,
tied
together
and
help
with
way
findings,
security,
safety,
as
well
as
moving
people
through
the
space
and
really
place
making.
A
Chuck
brock,
prab:
thanks.
and
then
my
other
question
was
about
phasing
of
the
up
on
boston.
and
this,
yes,,
I'm
sorry.,
so
alpine
balsam
will
be
phased
over.,
so
in
the
next
several
years,
we'll
see
the
design
for
that
campus
come
out,
and
really
we're
tying
into
all
the
work
that
they're
doing
in
alpine
balsam.
In
terms
of
if
I
zoom
in.
R
R
A
A
E
Board
&
commissions:
one
place
schematic
design
for
this.
this..
This
is
the
largest
swath
of
public
space
in
in
downtown
boulder..
The
construction
is
gonna
have
to
happen
in
phases
for
2
key
reasons,
one..
We
don't
have
enough
money
to
do
it
all..
We
can't
do
it
all
at
once..
The
the
rough
order
of
magnitudes,
40
million
dollars,,
not
including
the
vertical
construction
and
buildings.
E
Board
&,
commissions:,
and
so
that
that
is
not
funding
that
is
available..
The
other
reason
it's
gonna
have
to
happen
in
phases.
Is
you
mentioned
the
comment
about
the
decommissioning
of
city
facilities,,
so
we
know
that
there
are
facilities
that
are
under
utilized
by
the
city..
The
city
has
been
in
the.
E
Board
&
commissions:
and
the
process
in
the
past
of
kind
of
land
making
through
buildings.,
and
so
we
have
this,
this
hodgepodge
facilities
that
aren't
meeting
modern
needs.
city
council
gave
approval
in
june
to
explore
selling
some
of
these
facilities
so
that
the
city
could
centralize
and
have
a
western
city
campus
at
all.
Time.
boston,,
the
age
wall
center,,
the
atrium
building,,
the
cold
storage,
building.
E
E
N
N
N
R
R
Board
&
commissions:,
not
only
the
engagement,,
but
also
our
market
and
feasibility
study,
just
looking
at
best
case
for
land
use..
Looking
at
the
age.
well,
that
does
have
the
senior
living
and
older
population,,
but
also
affordable
housing
will
be
studying
best
land
use
for
civic
area..
So
as
we
move
out
of
some
of
these
buildings
or.
R
R
Board
&
commissions:
they're,
working
on
a
larger
study
on
the
1,400
block
and
looking
at
the
affordable
housing
potential
here,,
and
so
just
how
best
to
connect
and
invite
and
create
spaces
for
different
populations..
Is
it
only
on
the
1,400
block??
Is
it
inclusive
of
anywhere
in
civic
areas?,
so
we'll
be
studying
all
of
that,
and
inclusive
of
the
community
engagement
as
well.
N
B
B
B
R
Board
&
commissions:,
yeah,,
we've
started
conversations,
with,
see
you?
and
they're
very
excited
about
this
project..
They
are
excited
for
partnership
opportunities.
Along
with
our
planning
group.-
so
we're
also
looking
in
conjunction
with
our
planning
group.:
how
can
ourbreedum
help
support
also
any
development
on
the
hill??
That's.
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E
Board
&
commissions:.
Thank
you
for
that,.
She
homing.
thank
you.
great
job..
This
is
such
an
exciting
pro
project..
On
that
note,
we
know
one
of
the
things
boards
have
enjoyed.
prior
was
actually
seeing
some
of
the
projects
that
we're
talking,
about.
and
so
post,
cip
finalization..
We
have
proposed
a
draft
tour.
your
august
agenda.
we've
tried
our
best
to
protect
it,
so
that
there
is
time
to
get
out
in
the
field.
E
Board
&
commissions:.
I
want
to
give
a
caveat:
we've
proposed
a
pre
meeting.,
just
informal
dinner
here
from
5
30
to
6.
we're
gonna,
have
agenda
setting
with
the
chair
and
vice
chair
on
thursday
or
friday,.
I
believe,,
and
it
may
be,
that
we
need
a
20
min
of
just
in-person
meeting
to
talk
to
you
about.
E
Board
&
commissions:
a
couple
of
business
items
that
are
still
tv..
I
thought
it
would
be
coordination
with
the
landmarks
board.,
but
that'll
come.,
oh,
yeah,.
I'm
sorry
we're
talking
about
the
august
meeting,.
I
think
at
your
august
meeting
we're
gonna
need
1520
min
of
business
time
to
talk
about
collaboration
with
the
landmarks
board
around
the
historic
district.
E
Board
&
commissions:,
and
so
what
we'll
probably
shift
is
that
we
would
propose.-
and
this
is
where
we
need
to
been
put
from
you
all..
We
could
start
at
5
30
with
dinner
and
meeting,,
or
I
know
plenty
of
folks-
are
here
volunteering
and
also
have
a
full
time
job..
We
can
still
start
at
6.
30.
it'll
just
mean.
E
E
Board
&
commissions:.
We
would
love
to
go
over
to
north
boulder
park
and
talk
about
the
major
improvements
that
are
planned
in
the
capital
there,
and
the
connectivity
with
the
alpine
balson
site.
That
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
from
there..
We
would
love
to
go
to
the
park
on
violet
and
talk
to
you
about
that
planning
process
and
community
engagement.
E
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
we
would
love
to
finish
at
the
east
boulder
community
center,,
because
that
is
the
recreation
center,.
Where
we're
advocating
for
a
major
investment
to
make
sure
that
it
can
support
the
community..
Because
we
see
cascading
investments
coming
at
north
and
south,.
And
if
we
can
get
east
up
to
speed
and
take
care
of
some
major
energy
issues
and
building
issues..
It
can
and.
E
E
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N
E
Board
&
commissions:.
I
think
we're
going
to
need
20
min
of
a
meeting
which
is
not
on
this
draft.
Agenda.
talk
to
you
about
the
historic
places.,
so
we
would
start
here
in
chambers,,
brief
meeting
and
dinner,
and
then
walk
through
the
civic
area,
and
then
in
the
buses..
We
would
travel
around
town
and
then
bring
you
back
here?.
E
A
A
E
Board
&
commissions:
I'd
love
to
hear
the
board's
thoughts
on
that
I
agree.
it's
ambitious.
time
is
precious.
sunset
on
that
day
is
at
7
40,,
so
we'd
probably
have
about
20
min
after
that
before
the
parks
are
dark.,
but
that's
why
we've
proposed
it
ending
at
east,
where
we'd
be
inside.,
I
mean,
we
could
talk
about
the
park.
E
Board
&
commissions:
have
extensive
staff
conversation,
I
think,
for
each
of
these
sites.
We
would
you?
you've
heard
about
each
of
these
projects
in
depth,,
and
so
perhaps
we
could
send
a
one
pager
on
each
in
advance
that
you
could
have
reviewed
and
we
wouldn't..
We
would
limit
presentation
to
allow
time
for
walking
in
quick.
E
C
B
Board
&
commissions:
how
many,,
how
much
time
would
we
spend
on
average
at
each
place?
so
doing
the
math??
It's
like
a
3
h
meeting
we've
proposed
20
min
at
each
spot,
but
30
at
east,,
because
we
would
want
to
talk
about
both
the
facility
and
the
park..
We've
proposed
10
min
of
travel,
time
for
everything
except
getting
from
the
park
on
violet
to
east,,
because
that
can
take
15
to
20
min.
A
A
A
A
E
A
A
E
E
E
Board
&
commissions:
anita
on
a
5
pm.
start
time,,
and
if
that
works
we
would
start
at
5
pm..
We
will
have
to
convene
a
meeting.,
I'm
I'm
fairly
certain,
for
a
matter
talking
about
to
get
your
input
on
coordination
with
the
landmarks
board,,
and
so
we
would
have
a
brief
meeting..
We
would
have
box
dinners.,
we
would
walk
around
the
civic
area
and
do
that
tour,
and
then
we
would
travel
to
north
bartle,
park,
and
so
we'll
eat
as
we
as
we
work.
E
Board
&
commissions:
okay,,
we'll
also
prepare..
I
think
we'll
prepare
a
one-page
project
summary
of
each
project..
That
is
very
brief,.
What
is
the
timeline??
What
is
the
scope??
What
is
the
budget??
What
are
prab
touches
on
that
item?,
so
you
have
something
tangible
in
front
of
you
for
some
of
the
more
more
frequently
asked
questions,
and
that
can
also
help,,
maybe
facilitate.
A
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B
B
B
B
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C
B
B
B
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B
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Board
&
commissions:,
the
prab,
has
elected
to
have
a
retreat
in
the
fall.
once
the
new
members
have
had
5
to
6
months
to
get
up
to
speed..
The
purpose
of
the
retreat
has
shifted
over
time.
in
the
most
recent
years..
It's
had
2
major
functions,
one
for
the
board
to
revisit
how
it's
working
together
and
talk
through
procedure,
how
things
are
going.,
if
there's
anything
I'll
give
an
example
as
a.
E
E
Board
&
commissions:,
it's
8,,
34.,
so
I'll
just
be
really
direct..
Some
of
the
presentations
will
really
long..
They
were
very
boring..
They
did
not
have
clarity
as
to
the
perhaps
role,,
and
so
that
subcommittee
created
clear
guidelines..
We
used
to
this
day
for
both
our
team.,
it's
and
other
departments
who
want
to
come.
present
the
prop.,
so
that
was
really
helpful..
So
that's
part
one
of
the
meeting..
It's
been
on
function
and
and
effectiveness..
The
other
part
of
the
meeting
has
been
for
the
board
to
talk
about
space.
E
E
B
Board
&
commissions:,
thanks
for
that
clarification..
When
I
read
study
session,,
I
wasn't.
that's
how
we
we
we
renamed
it
because
it's
not
a
retreat.,
it's
not
a
team
building,
opportunity,,
it's
not
it.,
and
so
it
was
a
bit
of
a
misnomer.,
and
so
I
think
I
think
some
folks
who've
been
on
the
board
for
a
while
suggested
it
be
renamed
because
people
here
retreat,
and
they
think
that.
E
E
Board
&
commissions:.
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
boards
one
of
your
hopes
for
tonight
to
start
seating.
when
does
that
make
sense?
all
one
of
the
items
that
has
driven
timing
in
the
past.?
A
third
element
that
has
been
talked
about
at
the
study
session
is
the
perhaps
letter
to
council
in
the
past..
Every
year,
city
council
asked
for
a
letter
from
boards,,
letting
them
know
what
was
going
on..
What
were
their
hopes,,
concerns,
and
worries.
E
E
E
E
B
B
A
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B
B
B
B
B
A
A
E
Board
&
commissions:,
hey?,
chuck
your..
I
think
your
bandwidth
is,
is
telling
you
that
it's
done
for
the
night.,
here's,
what
I've
heard,
and
here's
what
we
can
make
happen
beyond
a
doodle
tool..
We
do
have
survey
instruments
where
we
could
work
with
chuck
and
elliot
to
get
out
a
a
survey
to
you
all
that
one
pulls
on
dates.
and
then,
to
whatever
open,
ended
or
short
form
response
question.
You
want
to
use
to
mind
for
topics
for
discussion?.
B
B
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A
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N
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A
A
N
Board
&
commissions:.
That
would
be
great
check..
I
also
think
there's
kind
of
just
an
assumption.
That
swimming
is
something
that
everybody
knows
how
to
do
like
when
they
works
presenting
tonight
from
the
rowing
team..
They
said
that
there's
no
skills
required,,
but
it
does
require
that,.
You
know,
have
an
ability
to
swim
and
not
drown
if
you're
in
open
water
and
your
fall
out
of
the
boat..
So
it's
excluding
a
significant
percentage
of
the
boulder
population
that
doesn't
have
those
basic
skills.
A
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
Board
&
commissions:,
you
know,.
This
problem
isn't
going
to
go
away.
and
I
know
that
we're
building
a
huge
structure
over
there,-
that's
gonna,
probably
have,
like
the
most
amazing
water,
phone.
never.,
but
it
was
a
problem
for
me
with
my
son
on
the
weekends
just
for,
briefly.,
and
I'm
imagine
that
there
are
other
families
that
have
that
issue,
too..
So
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
issue.
C
Board
&
commissions:,
I
I
have
2
quick
notes..
First
of
all,,
I
have
the
opportunity
to
have
a
coffee
with
auntie
jeffords
from
play
boulder
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,,
and
it
was
really
wonderful
to
meet
her
and
hear
about
what
they
do,
and
how
would
they
interact
with
parks?.
So
I
was
glad
to
glad
to
make
that
connection.
C
C
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C
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E
E
E
Board
&
commissions:,
the
challenge.
however,,
that
is
an
area
where
we
think
board
liaisons
might
be
able
to
help
is
bridge
that
gap,
and
if
it,,
if
the
language
we're
using,
is
too
bureaucratic,
or
you
know
not
it
helping
to
add
to
barriers,.
We
we
welcome
that
input,
so
that
hope,
hopefully,
should
be
part
of
the
conversation
with
you
with
tina.