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From YouTube: City of Boulder Planning Board Meeting 12-17-20
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City of Boulder Planning Board Meeting 12-17-20
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cindy
spence:?
Yes,
sir,.
We
know
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jean
gatza,
(she/her):,
okay,
great,,
or
any
to
keep
these
meetings
orderly
and
respectful
and,.
As
such,.
We
have
a
few
items.
a
few
items
of
protocol.,
so
any
activities
that
disrupt
delay
or
interfere
with
the
meeting
are
prohibited.
and
just
as
if
we
were
in
person.
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Elaine
mclaughlin:
and
then
with
regard
to
policy
2.40
design,
excellence
for
public
projects
and
2.41
enhance
design
for
all
projects.
Overall
staff
notes
that
the
concept
plan
meets
this
policy,
and
it's
also
important
to
note
that
there's
aspects
of
these
policies
that
will
probably
require
some
refinements.
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john
gerstle:
yeah,
thanks..
I
was
trying
to
understand
what
would
make
either
of
the
alternatives
which
one
would
move
ahead
based
on
staff
or
core
applicant
to
decision
making.
Is
it
primarily
a
financial
decision
or
or
is
there
some
other
basis
for
the
for
making
a
decision
between
those
two
options.
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Adam
goldstone
cob:
we'll
get
into
a
little
bit
more,,
but
the
existing
station
is
very
small,,
very
old,
not
able
to
accommodate
a
lot
of
the
more
modern
needs.
Of,
of,
you
know,,
modern
fire,
department.
and
then,
of
course,
the
floodplain
issue
that
was
there
was
already
addressed.
This
is
a
huge
one.
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William
bussard:,
one
of
the
things
that
we
thought
we'd
show
was
an
original
planning
diagram.
Before
we
got
into
it
a
little
bit
further,
we
did
about
15
of
these.
this
one's
kind
of
where
we
landed
because
of
where
the
apparatus
bay
accident
on
the
30th
street,
like
elaine,
says
it's
a
it's
a
one
way.
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William
bussard:
being
maxed
out,
essentially
just
the
site,
is
kind
of
small,
for
all
the
parking
that
you
would
have
to
have.,
so
anyway,
um,,
the
administration
was
requested
to
be
visible
off
of
30th
street,,
which
is
the
red
box
that
was
referred
to
earlier,
this
area
right
here.
If
you
guys
can
see
my
cursor.
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William
bussard:
you'll,
see
adam
was
talking
about
the
admin,
just
essentially
being
removed,
there'd,
be
a
small
patio
out
here
for
folks
who
are
visiting
the
community
room,,
but
otherwise
it's
really
reserved
space
for
phase
two,
if,.
If
we
have
to
go
that
route.,
hopefully
we
don't,
but
you
never
know.
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William
bussard:
okay,
okay.
well,,
I
think
I'm
essentially
done..
I
just
wanted
to,
to
kind
of
leave
you
with
some
of
these
images,,
but
I'm
also,
I
think
the
feedback
we
got
was
really
good.
and
we
have
some
some
responses
to
that
in
the
future..
So
is
adam..
Is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
say
my
last
15
seconds.
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harmon
zuckerman:
know
maybe
to
wrap
it
up
your
over
time.
yeah.,
lynn
segal:.
So
we
were
built.,
we
ridiculously
built
up
heavily
at
311
and
we
need
fire
suppression
up
there.
the
original
fire
fire
station
was
there
for
a
reason.
at
fourth
and
maxwell,
and
we
need
to
have
some
space
there
for
fire.
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David
ensign
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(he/him):
yeah,.
I
definitely
really
appreciate
that
the,
even
though
this
was
not
a
mandatory
step
that
the
africans
feel
that
planning
boards
input
is
useful..
So
I
did
want
to
take
the
time
to
make
some
general
comments
on
both
occasions.,
so
thank
you,
harming
for
the
team
matta.
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David
ensign,
--,
pb
(he/him):,
you
know,
very,
very
obviously
very
important
that
we
have
good
plans
for
fire
safety..
So
I
think
that
that
is
probably
the
most
important
comp
plan
policy
that
is
well
addressed
by
this
and,
of
course
the
we
do
need
to
find
a
new
location,
since
the
arapaho
location
is
in
the
flood.
Zone.
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lupita
d
montoya:
and
on
the
second
bullet
or
third
berlin
here
in
the
equity
use
one
part
what
I
was
thinking
here.
Affordable
housing
projects
have
been
moving
forward
with
both
hundred
percent,
affordable
projects
and
projects,
with
a
percentage
of
on
site,
permanent
affordability
coming
to
the
bore.
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harmon
zuckerman:,
but
the
first
pb,
harmon
zuckerman:
already
answers
that
question,,
which
says
that
these
boulder
group
is
an
example
of
how
sub
community
planning
can
help
our
city
achieve
better
outcomes.,
and
when
you
have
an
example
that
shows
us
how
to
create
better
outcomes.
That
is
something
you
build
upon.
So.
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lupita
d,
montoya:
well,,
you
don't
pb,
lupita
d,
montoya:!
That's
what
part
of
the
discussion
initially
said
that
that
this
pb,
lupita
d,
montoya:
kind
of
turn,
was
happening.,
so
you
can
say,.
Now
we
stand
in
2020,
you
know
being
pandemic
year
or
something
like
that..
If
you
really
want
to
put
that
in
context.
and
context.
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harmon
zuckerman:
that
this
is
a
dog
whistle..
You
know,.
If
you
leave
the
word
qualified
in.,
it's
like,,
here's
our
out
for
not
giving
money
to
a
minority
business
and,
of
course,
they're
going
to
be
qualification
requirements
in
the
actual
program..
I
just
don't
see
why
we
need
to
say
it.
yeah.
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lupita
d
montoya:,
so
here
it
direct
capital,
improvement
programs
dollars
towards
procurement,.
Like
I
said,
should
we
spend
or
something
like
that,.
You
need
to
put
the
verb
in
there
because
otherwise
it
is,
it
is
not
palette
constructed
because
they
are,
the
ones
are
all
full
sentences,
and
this
one
is
not.
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john
gerstle:,
the
teams
to
me..
We
need
to
make
a
point
that
we
need
to
maintain
it,
because
you
don't
know
in
advance
what
will
develop
and
what
needs
may
come
up,
what
new
businesses
will
start.,
and
so,
if
there's
no
land
at
all
left
that
can
be
devoted
to
that,
then,,
then
we
have
failed
in
my
opinion.
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lupita
d
montoya:,
my
oil.
pb,,
lupita
d,
montoya:,
sort
of
speak.
there's
a
few
of
them.,
but
they're
very
few.
I
lived
in
la
and
boston
places
where
you
have
plenty
of
places
so
easy
to
find
these
places,
and
I
all
kinds
of
hours,
you
can
get
anything
done
in
this
time.
We
have
very
limited
options.
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Pb,
harmon
zuckerman:,
because
the
nature
of
the
neighborhood
infill
project
was
that
it
needed
a
willing,
neighborhood
and
council
can
impose
that..
So
if
we
just
say
prioritize,
a
neighborhood
infill
project
is
outlined
in
the
major
update
and
put
a
period
there
and
take
off
the
for
the
2021
work.
Plan.
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Lisa
smith
pb:
but
again,
my
question
is,
and
maybe
I'm
just
being
two
nit
picky,,
but
the
very
first
full
bullet..
We
talk
about
revivalism,
the
neighboring
cities,
neighborhood
centers,
typically
zombie
see
when
nbc
to
and
then
we
say
exactly
the
same
thing
down
here,,
which
maybe
is
necessary,,
but.
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David
ensign
--
pb
(he/him):,
I
was,,
I
was
actually
thinking
we
could
do
that
peter
by
separated
into
two
very
short.
Sentences..
One
would
be
something
like
appreciating:
staff
sporting
appreciating
staff
should
be
prioritized
period
and
then
a
an
excellent
work
environment
serves
to
attract
and
retain
the
best
talent.
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harmon
zuckerman:
cooperative
planning,
board
activities..
I've
ever
been
part
of
in
five
years.,
and
so
I
congratulate
everyone
and
thank
staff
for
hanging
in
there,.
While
we
did
all
that
work..
So
thanks
everyone.
that
was
terrific..
Does
anybody
else
want
to
debrief,
a
little
bit
about
that.