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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
civic
conversations;
and
the
vision
is
really
designed
to
promote
free
conversation
and
dialogue;,
while
also
recognizing
that
we
want
to
make
sure
everybody
participating
feels
safe
and
welcome,.
And
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
make
space
for
different
viewpoints
in
our
meetings,,
because
we
believe
it
believe
it
leads
to
more
informed
decision
making.
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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:
next
slide.
vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:,
and
we
do
have
more
information
on
our
website
about
what
we
call
our
productive
atmospheres
vision.
if
you're
interested
to
look
into
a
more
detail,.
But
I
will
be
specific
about
what
it
means
for
tonight's
planning
board
meeting.
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Lynn,
segal:
filling
the
missing
middle.,
it
is
not,
and
you
all
know
that
I'm
not
telling
you
something
that
you
don't
know..
You
know
all
this
stuff..
You
need
to
take
action
on
it.,
that
is
market
rate
housing.
It
needs
absolutely
no
subsidy,,
certainly
not
42
parking
spaces,,
certainly
not
because
it
is
not
providing
community
benefit..
It
is
driving
up
housing
costs.
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ferro,
cob
(he/him):
so
would
encourage
you
guys
to
stay
focused
on
big
picture
tonight.,
recognizing
that
most
of
the
metrics
involved,
here,,
don't
necessarily
coincide
with
the
zoning
and
the
land
use,,
and
if
this
were
to
grow,
some
legs
this
evening
might
even
result
in
an
an
additional
concept
plan.
Review.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
this
is
defined
in
the
plan,
as
areas
adjacent
to
main
street
business
area
should
contain
a
mix
of
uses
and
a
lower
scale
of
intensity
than
the
uses
along
broadway
and
yarmouth..
They
should
provide
a
transition
between
the
main
street
and
adjacent
residential
and
industrial
areas.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
they
should
contain
residential
and
office
uses,
neighborhoods,
serving
restaurants
and
personal
service
uses,,
and
a
pedestrian
oriented
pattern.
with
buildings
located
close
to
the
street
and
parking
in
the
rear,
where
people
can
live
and
work
in
close
proximity,,
possibly
in
the
same
building.
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kaplan,
pb:,
I
just
want
to
say,
don't
stress
about
it..
We
totally
support
you,
having
your
notes,,
especially
with
such
a
complicated
project.
I'll,
fill
a
little
bit
of
time.
Just
by
expressing
my
sincere
appreciation
to
staff
for
wrestling,
this
beast.
there's
a
lot
of
issues,
a
lot
of
detail..
It
is
a
brain
breaker,
and
you
have
done
such
a
great
job.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
with
the
memo
queuing
it
up
for
us
to
try
to
explain
all
of
the
complexity
and
the
nuance
that
you
have
to
deal
with
on
a
day
to
day,
basis,
and
probably
especially
so
with
this
project..
So
just
know
that
you
have
our
appreciation
and
our
support,
and
we
definitely
want
you
to
have
your
notes..
So
don't
worry.
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chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
okay,
thank
you.,
chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
so
the
rm:
one
zone
is
defined
as
medium
density.
residential
areas
which
have
been
or
are
to
be,
primarily
used
for
attached
residential
development,
or
each
unit
generally
has
direct
access
to
ground
level,
and
where
complementary
uses
may
be
permitted
under
certain
conditions.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
and
the
maximum
allowable
by
right
height
is
35
feet,,
with
no
additional
limit.
on
the
number
of
stories..
The
mu
2
zone
district
is
defined
as
follows.
mixed.
use
residential
areas
adjacent
to
a
redeveloping
main
street
area,
which
are
intended
to
provide
a
transition
between
a
main
street
commercial
area
and
established
residential
districts.
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van
schaack,
cob:,
the
noble
art
district,
was
started
in
2,009..
An
official,
nonprofit
designation
and
recognition
of
the
art
district
by
city
council
occurred
in
2,017..
The
district
encompasses
the
areas
on
broadway
north
of
violet,
and
all
the
budding
properties..
The
nobel
art
district
webpage
describes
the
of
our
district
as
follows.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
that
is,
an
inclusive,
grassroots.,
community,,
focused
organization
dedicated
to
promoting
artists
and
creative
businesses
located
along
broadway
in
the
adjoining
neighborhoods
in
north
boulder..
The
noble
area
is
characterized
by
upscale
mixed
to
use
new
urbanism,
high-end,
restaurants,
and
shops,,
and
a
mix
of
funky
artists,
friendly
warehouses.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
for
the
applicants
written
statement..
The
concept
includes
3
courtyards,,
west,,
south,
and
north,
connected
by
pedestrian
alleys,,
encouraging
walkability.
on
and
beyond
the
site..
The
application
applies
that
an
open
space
reduction
will
be
requested,
and
that
such
a
reduction
is
necessary
to
provide
additional
residential
units
at
a
much
smaller
size.
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van
schaack,
cob:,
so
chandler
van
schaack,
cob:.
This
is
one
of
the
sub
questions
just
for
for
the
board's
consideration.
Is,.
Does
the
nobel
art
district
designation
in
north
boulder,
potentially
support,,
making
a
finding
that
the
land
or
its
surrounding
environment
has
changed,
or
is
changing
to
such
a
degree
that
is,
in
the
public
interest
to
encourage
a
redevelopment
of
the
area
or
to
recognize
the
change
character
of
the
area.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
and
then
a
site,
review.
application
would
require
decision
by
planning,
board,
subject.
to
call
up
by
city
council.
and
any
of
the
other
processes
involved,,
including
rezoning
land
use,,
not
change
or
other
legislative
actions,
would
require
a
recommendation
by
the
planning
board
and
a
final
decision
by
city.
Council.-.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:
yeah,
hi,
everybody.
I'm,
laura
when
I
get
up
the
city,
attorney's
office,,
just
talking
about
spot
zoning..
So
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research
on
spotlighting
today,
just
to
see
if
this
would
be
something
that
qualifies
in
generally
the
test
for
determining.
if
something
counts
as
spot
zoning
which,
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
what
spot.
zoning
is
maybe
in
the
audience.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:,
it's
about
zoning
is
what
an
application
of
a
zoning
designation
to
a
specific
person
of
land
is
inconsistent
with
the
surrounding
area,
find
that
it's
another
zoning
restriction,
and
it's
prohibited
in
colorado,
and
so
like,.
What
do
we
look
at
for
the
test
for
spot
zoning??
And
here
it's
whether
the
action
that
is
taken
is.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:,
so
that's
one
particular
way..
We
can
do
it,
and
it
will..
You
just
swallow
the
second
half
of
that
sentence,.
So
I
didn't
quite
hear
you.
oh,
he
sorry.
and
so
could
you,
laurel?.
Could
you
speak
a
little
bit
more
slowly,
please??
I
think
that
would
absolutely
yeah..
I
can
help
a
little
bit
with
that,
and
I
have
just
read
a
lot
on
this
today,.
So
I
think
I'm
excited.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:
and
so
cob,
laurel
witt:,
the
idea
of
spot
zoning
is
that
you're
trying
to
get
around
what
the
comprehensive
plan
is,
or
what
the
jurisdiction
has
deemed
is
a
is
a
good
zone
for
that
area..
So
what
we
could
do
is
go
in
and
change
the
boulder
valley.
comprehensive
plan
change
to
landy's
maps,
and
that
would
lessen
our
like
of
losing
on
a
spot.
Zoning
challenge.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:,
but
the
way
that
we
would
do
that
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
within
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive,
plan,
or
start
amending
it,
and
many.
It
would
allow
the
public
to
weigh
in
on
that,
to
be
able
to
have
a
process
for
everybody
to
to
win
and
be
able
to
respond
effectively..
So
there
are
ways
that
we
can
make
sure
that
we
limit
our.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
okay,,
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thank
you
both
charles
and
chandler.,
that's
helpful..
I
was
looking
at
the
statement
on
page
170,,
which
I
think
is
in
the
applicant
statement
that
says,
no
affordable
units
are
proposed
for
this
development,
as
a
substantial
portion
of
the
land
will
be
donated
for
the
new
museum.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
charles,
thank
you.,
I'm
still
learning,
and
you're.
Thank
you
so
much.
yeah,
this
is
this
is
good..
I
was
not
clear
on
that.,
I
thought
that
community
benefit
was
required
for
the
commercial
portion,,
but
I
guess
that's.
They
also
have
to
pay
into
the
inclusionary
housing..
They
have
the
linkage
fees
and
stuff
like
that.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):,
that's
correct,,
and
that's
sometimes
where
we
get
confusing
language,,
because
when
we
did
that
code
change,,
it
was
under
the
moniker
of
community
benefit.,
but
sometimes
it
gets
conflated
with
annexation.,
so
yeah,.
The
the
linkage
fee
for
commercial
property
is
how
we
satisfy
that
requirement.
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right.
chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
good
clarification.
thank
you..
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure..
I
wasn't
like
assuming
something
that
you
need,
and
I
almost
didn't
put
that
in
there
because
of
the
fact
that
community
benefit
is
not
technically
something
that
is
required
for
this
type
of
for
a
resounding
or
anything..
But.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb::
where
does
that
happen
in
the
process
like??
Could
the
applicant
then
come
back
with
a
different
project
at
site
review
that
has
taller
buildings
and
more
density,
or
like
like?
I
know
we
we
might
make
that
change
to
allow
this
concept,,
but
with
making
that
change.
Allow
a
more
intense
concept.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
you
know
oftentimes.
if
we
have
chandler
van
schaack,,
cob:
multi-part
application,
where
one
or
2
of
the
processes
require
council
approval..
We
would
probably
just
refer
the
entire
thing
to
council
and
ask
for
a
planning
board
recommendation
with
council
approval
of
site,
review,
rezoning,
and
landy
map
change.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):,
so
re-zoning
do
happen.
it's
pretty
rare
that
they
happen
in
a
vacuum..
That's
around
one
development,
application,,
not
to
say
that
it
can't
happen
that
way,
just
typically
in
bold,,
or
we
see
rezonings
done
more
often
than
not
to
implement
more
of
a
long
range
vision.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
that
planning
board
made
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
on
to
modify
a
very
specific
section
of
the
code
that
related
to
land
use
intensity..
So
there
are
some
barriers
there
that
precluded,,
I
think,
what
council
ultimately
found
kind
of
the
best
outcome.
as
far
as
maximizing
the
housing
benefit
on
the
site.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
so
the
15,000
peripheral
limitation
is
actually
in
the
form
and
bulk
standard..
So
not
the
use
standards.,
so
we
do.,
you
know
there
are
circumstances
where
specific
uses
have
size,,
requirements,
or
restrictions,,
in
which
case
we
do
exactly
what
you're
talking
about.
we
break
down.
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Chandler
van
schaack,,
cob:
essentially,,
the
council
could
initiate
an
update
to
the
nobel
plan,,
which
would
then
go
through
a
public
process.
and
if,
through
that
public
process,
the
public,
all
agreed,
and
the
residents
of
north
boulder
agreed
that
this
site
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
totally
update
the
nobel
plan
to
say,.
We
want
a
museum
at
this
site
right
like
we
want
this
creative
campus,
or
we
want
this
to
be
the.
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jorge
boone:,
that's
my!
I
can
wait
until
the
applicant
kind
of
presents
for
for
their
presentation..
It
was
just
sort
of
a
question..
So
if
you
want
to
point
it
to
them,,
that's
fine.
and
then,,
along
with
that,,
just
as
as
sort
of
a
hopefully,,
the
applicant
is
listening,
and
can
include
this
in
their
answers
when
they
go
through..
The
presentation
is.
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
you
know
one
of
the
chandler
van
schaack,
cob:,
pretty
much
the
only
criterion
for
a
land
use
map
changes
that
it's
is
that
it
is
on
balance
consistent
with
the
policies
of
of
the
multi
valley,
comprehensive
plan..
So
what
you
just
asked.
yes,,
that's
I
mean.!
It
definitely
plays
in
right.
if
you,,
if
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
comp
plan
policies
to
point
to
to
say
that
this
is
meeting.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:
they'll
sue
us
it,,
you
know
it,
whatever
decision
we
make.,
but
the
goal
here
is
to
try
to
make
it,
as
in
line
with
the
call
plan
and
the
subcommittee
plan
to
to
make
our
challenge,
or
any
sort
of
challenge
against
this
decision.
harder
to
overcome..
Does
that
make
sense??
They
have
to
prove
that
the.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
of
a
creative
campus..
The
creative
campus
includes
housing,,
not
just
a
museum
and
a
diversity
of
housing,,
not
just
large
luxury
units..
We
think
it's
envisioned
in
the
area
plan,,
and
it's
also
envisioned
by
the
people
currently
living,
working,
and
creating
a
novo.
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Andrew
ghadimi:
and
andrew
ghadimi:,
we
have
been
speaking
to
them
from
the
very
beginning
of
when
they
signed
a
lease,
or
when
they
did,
a
renewal
about
our
intentions
to
to
redevelop
the
site..
So
all
of
them,
before
signing
a
lease
or
renewal,
we're
aware
of
our
intentions,,
and
we
went
door
to
door..
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ghadimi:
and
so,
in
conclusion.
andrew
ghadimi:,
because
we'll
talk
a
bit
more
in
depth
about
the
project..
You
know
our
goal
is
to
create
a
project
with
and
for
the
noble
community
that
preserves
its
identity,
provides
the
necessary
housing
and
infrastructure..
The
community
needs
to
thrive.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:,
so
this
shr.
was
really
important..
We
talk
about
co-,
creating
and
crowdsourcing
this
concept
plan..
This
is
something
that
I
have
not..
This
is
a
community
first
or
career..
First,
for
me
to
be
able
to
really
work
with
the
community,
to
design
a
concept
plan
instead
of
having.
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Jv
desousa:
and
the
idea
developed
jv
desousa:
that
really
the
open
space
and
the
ability
for
be
moca
to
program
the
entire
site
for
the
site
to
be
the
museum..
Not
just
the
building
is
the
museum,,
but
that
their
exhibition
programming
could
spill
out
of
the
structure
and
out
across
the
site
to
really
engage.
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Jv
desousa:
the
the
ground
floor
of
the
mixed
use,
structures
along
broadway
and
at
the
corner
of
broadway
and
violet
are
anticipated
to
be
commercial
with
residential
above,
and
the
remainder
of
the
site
is
dedicated
to
housing
and
to
keep
the
housing
attainable..
You
know
the
the
unit
sizes
are
anticipated
and
planned
to
be
quite
small..
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Mark
mcintyre:
are
not
willing
to
mark
mcintyre:
undertake,,
and
so
I
I
could
foresee
in
the
future.
you
know,
restaurants
come
and
go.
I
mean
the
restaurant
business
is
a
perilous
business,
and,
and
they
come
and
go,
and
people's
favorite
places
go
away.
Anyway..
I
I
I
would
urge
you
to
be
thinking
about.
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Andrew
ghadimi:
and
at
that
time.
andrew
ghadimi:,
and
ultimately
we
didn't
achieve
that
development
plan..
But
from
that
moment
we
realized
that
eventually,
one
day
we
would
need
to
redevelop
these
sites,
or
we
intended
to
redevelop
these
sites.
and
so
with
every
lease
that
we've
signed.
we've
been
very
transparent
about
our
intentions..
It's
within
their
leads.
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John
gerstle
pb:
okay?
danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
oh,
sorry,
mark,
did
you
have
other?
no,?
I
I
didn't
have
others..
I
didn't
know
if
someone
else
was.
well,,
we
didn't
want
the
architect
to
answer
your
question..
That's
I.
I
think
everybody
did
a
good
job,
mark..
I
would..
I
would
say
that
I
think.
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David
dadone:
campus
is
bringing
is
while
david
dadone:.
The
museum
is
open.
Between.
right
now,
we're
open,
you
know,
from
an
11
am.
to
5
pm..
Some
of
the
residents
might
be
out,,
so
we
might
be
able
to
to
share
some
of
the
parking.
and
then,
when
the
when
the
museum
is
close,,
some
of
the
spots
that
we're
using
for
our
visitors.,
they
will
be
empty
because
the
museum
is
close,,
so
residents
can
can
be
used.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
and
and
to
just
add
on
from
a
process
standpoint
I
don't
know,
for
my
office
has
been
mentioned..
I
I
am
not
familiar
with
what
happened
there,,
but
those
were
2
sites..
So
if
this
project
were
to
move
forward,,
all
of
it
would
have
to
be
built
together
within
3
years
of
approval.
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jorge
boone:
correct?
yeah,,
if
that,
if
that
wasn't,,
indeed
how
that
could
be.
so
okay,,
that's
helpful..
I
don't
want
to
dwell
to
me
because
I
know
my
colleagues
want
to
jump
in
with
questions,
too,,
so
I'll
try
to
get
to
my
other
ones..
That
was
it
on
the
museum
that
I
had
at
least
high
level
question
for
the
developer.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):,
but
I
don't
know
if
charles,
do
you
have
something
else
to
happen?
no,.
I
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
actually
require
on
site,,
I
mean,
if
it
were
negotiated
through
an
annexation,
that
might
be
a
different
question,,
but
tying
it
to
a
rezoning,.
I
think,
would
probably
be.
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Pb,
jorge
boone:
one
more
question
it
had
to
do
with
kind
of
the
city
and
the
zoning,
and
all
this
stuff..
So
there's
that
commercial
building,
that's
kind
of
behind
this
l.
right?.
That
would
make
it
a
square.,
the
existing
commercial
building
that
sort
of
grade
out
in
the
plan
on
tenth
street,.
I
think.
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Andrew
ghadimi:
in
more
diverse
and
equitable
space..
So
while
we
are
talking
about
creativity
and
culture.,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
you
know..
You
understand
that
we're
not
just
trying
to
create
a
place
for
one
group
of
people,
but
giving
the
opportunity
for
anyone
who
wants
to
be
there
to
be
there.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
thank
you.,
a
couple
of
follow
up
questions.,
I'm
going
to
put
them
both
out
before
I
forget.
one
is,
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
what
that
open
space
looks
like,
and
maybe
that's
the
common
site
review..
But
typically,
when
we
get
proposals
about
what
open
space
looks,
like.,
there's
like.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
here's
the
playground,
here's
the
barbecue
pits..
This
is
the
dog
area,
and
I
think
what
I
saw
in
here's
the
community
gardens,-
and
I
think
what
I
saw
in
your
proposal
is
that
you
want
to
keep
it
flexible,
and
I
just
kind
of
want
to
understand
more
about
what
that
open
space
actually
looks
like.
that
kind
of
l
of
open
space
in
between
the
buildings..
That's
one
question.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
you
know,,
is
the
space
programmed
in
some
way?.
Is
someone
responsible
for
saying?
Okay
on
this
weekend,
we're
going
to
have
a
dance
performance.
and
on
this
weekend
we're
going
to
have
a
musical
performance.
and
you
know,,
and
this
weekend
it's
the
children's
chalk
art,
or
something
like,?
How
does
that
actually
work?,
especially
if
the
site
is
sort
of
split
ownership
between.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
what
laura
kaplan,
pb:
you
might
work
out
with
those
commercial
condominiums
that
their
access
is
going
to
to
broadway..
It
sounds
like
that:
broadway
access
will
be
closed.,
and
so
like
is
there
going
to
be
a
curb
cut
on
to
tenth
street.?
Is
there
going
to
be
access
through
your
sites??
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
about
that?,
or
that
is
also
something
yet
to
be
worked?
Out.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
I
I
was
curious
about
just
a
curb
cut
on
the
tenth
street,,
because
that
that
site
basically
has
asphalt.
That
goes
all
the
way
up
to
tenth
street.,
but
there's
no
curb
cut
it's
just.
It
goes
falls
off
the
curb.,
so
it
yeah.-
and
I
know
I'm
not
sure..
I
have
access.,
it's
not
safe..
Having
worked
on
ponderosa
and
redesign
that
whole
intersection
of
cherry
and
10,.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
the
community
around
there,,
you
know
I,
I
did
a
site
visit,
and
notice,
of
course,
that,,
like
2
of
the
commercial
spaces,,
you
know,
one's
a
mexican
grocery
store.
one's
a
taco
place.
one's
a
little
to
that
restaurant..
2
of
your
current
tenants
offer
like
money
sending
international
money.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
those
are
services
that
seem
like
that
would
be
important
to
the
local
community..
I
I
did
really
appreciate
in
the
packet
it
talks.
About.,
I'm
gonna
quote:
here,.
It
says,,
while
mostly
white
north
boulder,
is
home
to
a
significant
hispanic
population
originating
from
mexico.
puerto
rico
and
cuba..
I
I
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
I've
seen
happen
in
boulder.
Is
that
you
know,
when
a
tenant
has
to
leave
a
space.
They
have
to
go,
find
a
new
space,
and
then,
once
they
have
done
that,
they're,
not
necessarily
inclined
to
go
through
the
expense
and
hassle
of
moving
again..
It's
that
transitional
period
where
people
move
out
of
boulder
like
we
lost.
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John
gerstle
pb:
laura,
we'll
have
a
a
a
time
later
on.
we're
where
we
can
discuss
the
project
in
general..
So
you
have
a
a
specific
question:
here.
yes,
sorry.,
I'm
getting
to
that
long.
when
did
lead
in
to
say,.
Did
you
have
any
thoughts
about
that
transitional
period
of
when
your
tenants
have
to
move
out.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:
here,
your
wisdom,
here.,
I
didn't
want
to
jump
in
in
the
middle
of
your
conversation.,
just
wanted
to
say,
as
a
reminder,
community
benefit,
isn't
a
requirement
for
any
of
these
and
all
of
that..
So,
just
as
a
reminder,
we
may
not
want
to
make
that
can
could
like
respond
to
that,,
just
as
a
sense
of
it's
not
a
requirement
for
any
of
these
things
that
we're
looking
at.
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devin
saunders,
cob:.
Thank
you
there.
so
for
the
folks
who
are
interested
in
participating
in
the
public
comment
for
tonight..
I
know
we
do
have
some
right
hands
raised
already,,
but
if
you
can
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hands
now,,
so
we
can
get
a
full
picture
of
everything,
and
then
I
will
go
ahead
and
start
the
timer
on
my
screen.
here,
you'll
have
3
min
for
public
comment
on
this
item.
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David
ensign
--
he/him:
what
you
mean.,
planning,
board,,
david,
and
signed
40,
20
evans
driving
boulder,,
representing
myself
tonight..
I'm
excited
to
be
back
with
you
for
the
first
time
since
finishing
my
planning
board
term.,
I
want
to
speak
in
support
of
the
creative
campus
and
residential
neighborhood
proposal.
I've
enjoyed
and
benefited
from
having
bemo
in
my
license.
Moving
to
boulder.,
it's
exciting
to
see,
bmo
could
take
steps
to
grow
and
increase
their
impact,
and
encouraging
to
see
boulders
high
demand
for
residential
solutions
addressed
in
this
proposal.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him::
this
proposal
will
require
collaboration
between
planning,
board,
city
staff
and,
ultimately,
city
council,
to
find
a
good
path
forward..
It's
my
hope
that
you'd
as
you
deliberate
and
provide
feedback
tonight.,
you
will
also
focus
on
some
impactful
advice
to
city.
Council.-
they
will
need
to
take
action
on
the
land.
use
modifications,
and
we'll
be
looking
toward
your
expertise
to
inform
their
actions.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:,
so
I'll
briefly
talk
about
the
key
issues
in
front
of
you,.
I
think,
addressing
key
issues.,
3
and
4
will
be
relatively
straightforward..
This
proposal
is
consistent
with
many
goals
and
policies
in
the
bvcp
and
providing
feedback
on
the
site,.
Plan.
layout
and
architecture
is
always
one
of
the
most
fun
parts
of
being
a
planning
board.
Member.
honestly.
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David
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
vacation.
2
will
be
really
challenging..
It's
a
a
challenge,
one
to
address
to
the
land.
use
modifications
required
to
accommodate
the
requested
intensity..
I
know
you
will
have
robust
discussion
about
the
staff's
excellent
analysis,
and
I'm
hoping
you
will
send
some
strong
recommendations
to
council
on
what
changes
should
be
considered
to
make
this
project
successful.
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David
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
kiss
you.,
one
concerning
prohibition
of
museums
and
m.
2
zones
is
one
I'd
like
to
share
just
a
little
light
on
at
least
part
of
the
concern..
As
you
probably
know,,
I've
been
involved
in
the
use
table
standards
initiative
since
we
started
it
almost
5
years.
Ago..
The
work
in
2,023
on
module,
3
will
focus
on
neighborhoods
and
neighborhood
centers,,
which
includes
m.
you.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:,
the
insights
from
these
table
set
can
be
have
informed
related
to
in
in
the
past..
So
I
would
encourage
leveraging
these
insights
in
support
of
accommodating
the
museum
use
and
phasing
in
use.
table
changes
early
if
appropriate.,
good
luck,
tonight.
and
thanks
so
much
for
all
your
hard
work
on
behalf
of
boulder.
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AA
AA
AA
AA
Heather
schulte
she/her:.
I
could
not
find
a
studio
in
boulder
that
was
larger,.
Nor
could
my
art
businesses
budget
afford
when
it
was
a
comparable
size,
and
most
that
I
was
finding
remote,,
usually
smaller..
As
a
result,.
I
ended
up
with
a
studio
in
denver,
which,.
While
it
affords
closer
links
to
the
dynamic
art
scene,.
There
creates
logistical
difficulties.
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Heather
schulte
she/her:,
I'm
not
sure
if
the
site
plan
is
going
to
include
affordable
workspace
for
folks
who
do
not
reside
on
site,.
Nor
do
I
know
the
size
or
rental
fees
of
proposed
studio
spaces.,
but
I
would
encourage
consideration
of
access
for
other
artists
in
the
area,
and
subsidies
for
low
income,
artists
for
studio
spaces,,
whether
they
reside
on
site
or
not..
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schulte
she/her:
the
plan
for
the
female,,
because
new
site
is
one
that
can
meet
some
of
these
needs,,
especially
with
its
vision,
to
work
collaboratively
with
other
community
partners..
It's
site
is
accessible
for
public
from
public
transportation,
and
is
in
close
proximity
to
other
local
resources
that
provide
vital
services.
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Heather
schulte
she/her:,
if
we
wish
to
not
merely
retain
the
artists
already
here,.
In
addition
to
not
losing
them,,
this
will
also
grow
into
a
more
diverse,,
engaging,
and
ultimately
thriving
arts,
community
and
a
city
as
a
whole..
This
project
offers
enough
opportunity
to
do
so,,
and
I
would
encourage
your
consideration
for
proving
its
plan.
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castro-wooldridge,,
cob:
yeah.,
chris
barge,,
boulder
library,
foundation:
great
hi!.
This
is
chris
barge..
I've
lived
in
boulder
for
23
years
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
boulder
library.
foundation.,
so
I'm.
here,,
representing
myself
as
a
resident.
Also
the
older
library
foundation,,
both
in
huge
support.
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barge,
boulder
library,
foundation:
many
of
them.
and
in.
now,,
you
know,
in
lower
chatauqua,
in
a
historic,
fixer.
upper..
So
I've
got
experience
with
city
planning
processes
and
landmarks,
and
also
been
eyewitness
to
you
know
what
the
library
has
gone
through.
Getting
this
project?,
it's
been,
you
know,
5,.
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barge,
boulder
library
foundation:
and
you
know,
in
in
my
work,,
both
as
a
daily
camera
reporter
and
as
a
nonprofit
guy
at
the
community
foundation
and
the
library
foundation..
I
have
really
come
to
understand
that
that,
fundamentally,
our
housing
and
our
civic
spaces
make
our
city
what
it
is.
If,
if
people
can
feel
that
they
belong.
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barge,
boulder
library,
foundation:.
Development.-
how
great
is
that
to
send
a
strong
message.?
You
both.,
you
belong
here,
and
you
know
I
support
this
because
it's
thoughtful.,
it's
got
a
terrific
museum.
there's
a
new
housing
concept
that
is
interesting
in
the
face
of
just
the
natural
market
forces
that
are
leading
us
more
and
more
towards.
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lisa
smith:.
I
think
my
overall
impression
is
that
it's
an
exciting
project.,
I
think,
there's
a
good
idea
here..
I
think,,
as
we
heard
through
the
questions
and
commentary
and
public
comment,
the
doubles
and
the
details.
and
we're
in
that
kind
of
awkward
space
where
it's
not
detailed
yet,.
Nor
can
it
be
until.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:,
and
then
I
also
just
wanted
to
speak
to
something
that
laura
brought
up..
I
think
some
other
folks
brought
up,
and
that
is
the
public
space,,
because
one
of
the
things
I've
seen.-
that
preliminary
kind
of
concept
plan
is
just
the
legibility
of
that
public
space,
and
but
that
I
mean,
you
know
not.
only.
How
do
we
see
the
museum,
and
how
do
we
access
it
from
broadway
entering
the
site?
Otherwise?.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:,
but
how
pb,
lisa
smith:?
How
do
you
know,
to
go
to
the
public
space,
you
know?,
and
so
I
I
think
there
are
ways
to
kind
of
entice
that
maybe
that's
a
bad
word,
but
like
to
encourage
people
to
explore
areas.,
and
so
when
we
get
back
to
something
a
little
more
baked,.
I
I'd
be
interested
to
see
you
know
one..
How
are
you
going
to
program
it?.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:,
older
cities,
europe,
back
east,
and
so
on,,
where
you'll
send
them
see?
like
a
ceiling
created
by
lights..
I
think
about
the
4
columns
alleys,,
you
know.,
I
think,
about
cool
things
with
umbrellas,
and
I
know
fire
trucks.,
don't
always
love
those.
but
yeah,.
How?
How
do
you
make
that
actually
work?.
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Pb,
jorge
boone:,
basically
rezone
and
and
go
through
a
community
process.
If
we
wanted
to
go
through
that,,
because
there
there
are
a
lot
of
projects
lined
up
and
subcommittee
plans
and
all
kinds
of
other
things.
and
so
I'm..
I'm
concerned
about
the
burden
that
it
puts
on
staff,
and
the
cost
that
will
bring
to
the
city
to
do
this
community
outreach,
and
that
needs
to
be
thought.
Through.
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laura
kaplan,
pb:?
So
you
know
clearly
the
community
wants
this
project,,
at
least
from
what
we're
hearing,
you
know.,
maybe
by
site
review.
People
will
come
out
of
the
would
work
and
have
issues
with
it,,
but
so
far
it
seems
like
the
community
supports
it,,
and
my
sense,
and-
and
this
is
speculation,
of
course,-
is
that
if
we
were
writing
the
north
older
sub
community
plan,
today.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
this
project
would
be
in
it,
and
the
land
uses
would
accommodate
it.
very
likely.
and
so,.
You
know,
subcommittee
plans
are
designed
to
last
about
20
years..
That's
what
I
understand
from
the
east
boulder
side,
community
planning,
process.
it's
about
a
20
year
planning
horizon..
The
north
boulder
subcommittee
plan
has
already
exceeded
that
horizon,
having
been
developed
in
the
nineties.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
it
might
not
be
updated
for
another
18
years
or
so..
If
it
goes
in
rotation
of,,
we
have
10
sub
communities,,
even
if
it
only
took
2
years
to
do
each
subcommittee
plan..
We
only
have
2
of
them
complete,.
So
that's
you
know,,
8
more
to
go!
16
more
years
before
north
boulder
comes
around
in
the
rotation,,
so
I
don't
think
that
it's
unreasonable.
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jorge
boone:,
this
would
be
the
opportunity.,
I'm
sure
there
are
other
areas
that
could
be
affected,
even
like
the
the
little,,
the
little
condos
that
are
right
next,
door,
that
they
have
their
own
issues,,
and
I
heard
them
loud
and
clear.,
but
so,,
but
I
think
that's
really..
I
almost
think
that's
a
that's
a
staff
question,,
because
I
think
everyone
would
prefer.
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kaplan,
pb:
thank
you.,
just
just
2
real,
quick
additions,
one
about
the
restaurant
space..
I
would
really
leave
that
up
to
bemoka.
If
they
were
going
to
pair
down
their
space.,
maybe
they
would
prefer
to
farm
out
some
of
their
administrative
offices
and
keep
the
restaurants
on
site..
I
can
imagine
that
a
restaurant
has.
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jorge
boone:,
so
I'm
answering
the
question.,
but
I
understand
from
the
developers
standpoint
that
they
may
need
both
in
order
to
make
this
work,
and
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
As
sort
of
my
my
nebulous
answer
of
supporting
the
front
parcel,,
but
maybe
not
the
back
parcel
as
it's
currently
envisioned.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
our
input
will
likely
inform
what
happens
in
the
update
of
the
north
boulder
sub
community
plan.
Right?
like
they're,
going
to
care.,
does
planning
board
think
it's
appropriate
to
increase
the
residential
intensity
on
this
site..
Given
community
input
given
what's
developed
around
it
in
the
intervening
years
since
the
subcommittee
plan
was
first
created.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
in
the
developer's
mind,
and
in
our
minds,
laura
kaplan,
pb:.
These
2
portions
are
linked
right?.
The
reason
the
developer
is
asking
for
increased
intensity
here
is
to
support
the
donation
of
land
for
the
museum,,
which
is
what
that
really
is..
The
anchor
that
the
community
wants
is
the
the
museum
and
the
live
work
spaces,,
and
there
do
also
seem
to
be
some
folks
who
are
very
interested
in
having.
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Mark
mcintyre:
develop
a
truly
forward-looking,
tdm.
plan,,
so
that
that's
my
little
tdm.
speech..
But
you
know
I
met
with
brad
and
charles
and
chris
hagglin
the
other
day
about
this
issue,.
And
then
then
this
packet
came
out,,
and
here
it
is
again,
where
applicants
and
staff
treat
this
old
thing
as
code,,
and
it's
not
code,
and
I
wish
it.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
with
regard
to
the
specific
questions,,
the
city
of
boulder
access,
standards,,
and
where
that
access
should
be..
I
appreciate
a
danica
thoughtful
reply
about
how
they
will
work
with
the
that
building
to
the
west
and
try
to
figure
out
the
access
question,.
So
I
I
trust
that
they
will
work
that
out
to
everybody's
satisfaction.,
I'm
personally
agnostic
about
what
it
looks.
Like.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
the
second
question,,
do
the
proposed
building,
height
and
scale
provide
appropriate
transition
between
the
main
street
in
the
adjacent
residential
areas..
It
looked
to
me
like
it
did,
looking
at
the
different
elevations
from
the
north,
south,
east,
and
west,
that
the
height
steps
down.,
the
tallest
buildings
were
towards
broadway.
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I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
I
think
I
already
talked
about
number
4..
We
don't
really
have
the
architectural
sketches,
yet
so,,
looking
forward
to
seeing
those,
and
I
support
mark's
comments
on
it
would
be
great
for
this
gateway
site
to
be
architecturally,
interesting,
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
the
applicant
implements
that.
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jorge
boone:
yeah.,
pb,,
jorge
boone:
I'll,
try
not
to
be
repetitive,,
because
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
my
colleagues,
and
what's
already
been
said,
as
it
relates
to
the
cond
to
minimize
light
industrial,,
it's
very
interesting
what
it.
What
wasn't
brought
up
is
that
the
developer
created
this
problem
for
themselves.
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R
Pb,
jorge
boone:,
and
that
access
by
the
developer
who's
trying
to
develop
this
all
around
them.
and
I
think
the
developer
needs
to
come
to
the
table
with
them..
They
talked
a
lot
about
neighborhood
outreach,,
except
it
felt
like
on
the
public
comments
that
at
least
those
people
hadn't
been
spoken,
to.
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jorge
boone:
reason
why
they're
asking
for
that,
and
not
for
15,000
square
feet.,
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
very
strong
justification
for
that,,
because
if
we
start
making,,
you
know,
exceptions
or
changes
there,
and
it
could
impact
other
things..
So
I
I
I
think
that
needs
to
be
thought
through.
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mcintyre:
working
hard.
mark
mcintyre:,
exhibiting
leadership
and
friendship
to
your
comrades
on
the
board.,
then
you're,
a
natural,
your
natural
chair.
so,
and
I've
appreciated
both
your
your
friendship
and
your
leadership
since
2,017,,
and
especially
now
in
this
last
year,
on
planning.
For
so.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
think
it's
time
to
adjourn
this
meeting,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
in
person..
I
think
I
think
laura
wanted
to
bring
up
an
actual
matter..
I
do
have
a
couple
of
matters,
one
very
short,
and
one
that
could
be
longer,
and
we
could
kick
that
one
off
to
another
meeting..
If
we
don't
have
time
tonight.
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Laura
kaplan,,
pb:
and
I'm.
sure
staff
are
well
aware
of
this,
and
they
will
come
to
planning
board
at
the
appropriate
time,,
but
they
just
wanted
to
make
sure
there
are
no
surprises
that
everybody
knows
there
is
this
discussion
that
they're
trying
to
push
forward.?
I
think,
before
the
election
of
creating
a
historic
district
around
civic
center
park.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
reminding
you
what
all
the
working
group
is
trying
to
do
as
part
of
the
community
conversation..
I
really
want
to
give
my
thanks
and
appreciation
to
all
of
the
staff
who
are
working
on
this
effort
and
good
face..
I
don't
really
want
to
skip
those
parts,,
but
I
will
abbreviate
it
if
I
have
to,
just
by
saying
it's
a
very
complicated
and
difficult
process,
and,,
as
you
know.
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I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
the
process
is
being
scoped
such
that
housing
is
off
the
table..
It
will
not
be
discussed
in
any
of
the
scenarios
that
are
brought
to
the
community
for
discussion..
The
range
of
scenarios
would,
of
course,
and
appropriately,
very
appropriately,
include
things
like
keep
the
airport,
basically
the
same.,
but
maybe
fix
some
of
the
issues
around
noise
and
lead
and
community
relationships
and
safety..
That
might
be
one
scenario,
250.
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sarah
silver:,
what
like??
What
pb,
sarah
silver:,
if
it
sounds
like
you
and
laura
share,
similar
concerns,
and
I've
spoken.
lord,
has
called
me
and
spoke
to
me
about
this,
and
I
shared
the
concern..
So
is
there
some.?
If,
if
we
collectively
share
the
same
concern.,
what
would
be
the
most
effective
tactic?
We
could
undertake
to.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
a
scenario
that
says
continue
airport
uses
and
only
airport
uses
is
not
the
same
thing
as
a
master
plan.
update
right?.
This
absolutely
would
not
have
the
same
level
of
details
like
this
out.
The
east
folder
subcommittee
plan..
It's
not
going
to
have
a
site
plan.,
it's
not
going
to
have
traffic
impacts.,
it's
not
going
to
have
utilities.
study,
none
of
that
that
would
be
required
if
you
were
going
to
actually
move
forward.
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
with
developing
housing,
here.
I'm.,
just
asking
for
it
to
be
included
in
the
range
of
scenarios
in
a
similar
level
of
analysis
and
detail
to
the
airport,
only
scenarios..
So
that's
that's
where
I'm
coming
from.,
I
have
always
understood.
staff
have
been
very
clear
that
it's
not
going
to
be.
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Cob,
laurel
witt:
yeah,,
that's
an
option.
there's
also,
I
think,
there's
a
public
email
address..
You
couldn't
reply,
all,
too.,
but
you
can
give
up
the
information
to
everybody..
It's
the
boulder
planning
for
email
address..
It
could
be
wrong
about
that.
I'm
brad
please
over
you.
approach,
me,,
but.
A
I
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
does
anybody
else,
have
thoughts
or
questions
about
what
I
shared,,
because
I
know
that
we're
all
a
little
bit
brain
fried,,
but
people
may
also
look
at
this
as
a
record
after
the
meeting,
and
want
to
know
what
people
think..
So,
if
there's
something
that
you
want
to
say
or
something
you
want
to
ask,,
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity.