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Cob,
vivian
castro-wooldridge:
first,.
I
want
to
know
our
participants
to
know
that
the
city
is
really
striving
into
a
vision,
co,
created
by
city,
staff
and
community
for
productive,,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
to
the
conversations.,
and
this
vision
is
really
designed
to
promote
free
conversation
and
dialogue,,
while
also
recognizing
that
we
want
to
make
sure
everyone
who
participates
feels.
B
cob,
vivian
castro-wooldridge:,
and
we
have
a
lot
more
information
on
our
website
about
our
productive
atmospheres
vision,
if
you're
interested.,
but
I'll
focus
on
specifics
for
this
meeting
tonight..
There
are
a
number
of
rules
of
decorum
that
are
found
in
the
boulder
revised
code,
and
we
have
some
general
guidelines
that
are
advisory
in
nature
to
share
with
all
of
our
participants.
tonight.
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B
B
B
Cob,
vivian
castro-wooldridge:,
so
to
raise
your
hand.
there's
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
do.
This.
at
the
very
bottom
of
your
screen.
You
should
see
a
horizontal
menu
that
has
3
clickable
items..
If
you
click
on
the
hand,
icon,,
it
will
raise
a
hand
next
to
your
name,
and
we
will
know
to
call
on
you
to
speak
at
the
appropriate
time.
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B
A
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B
C
C
C
C
C
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C
Rosemary
hegarty:,
you
know.
see,,
you
student
is
parking
in
front
of
a
neighbor's
house,
all
the
time,,
and
so
we
already
have
parking
issues
with
3
people
in
the
neighbor,
you
know,
being
allowed
in
households
in
this
neighborhood..
I
can't
imagine
what
it's
going
to
be
like
if
it
goes
up
to
4
or
5..
So
if
you
have
to
increase
the.
C
rosemary
hegarty:.
I
really
really
hope
you
guys
will
protect
the
neighborhoods
closest
to
see
you,
and
not
allow
that
to
be
increased
in
these
close
neighborhoods,,
if
it's
appropriate
to
have
them
in
neighborhoods
that
have
plenty
of
parking,,
great
and
big
houses
great..
But
this
is
not
a
neighborhood
that
that
is,
go.,
you
know
my
neighborhood,
and
martin
acres
does
not
fit
that
bill..
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C
B
D
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D
D
D
D
Kimman
harmon:
and,,
as
you
know,
about
austin
texas,.
They
resend
it
as
high..
I
can
see
law,
because
it
caused
so
many
problems.,
and
you
know
if
you're
truly
doing
this
to
help
affordability..
It
won't
happen
because
the
landlord
will
just
charge
per
person,
not
a
fixed
price
for
the
house
like
the
old
days..
So
you
have
to
look
at
why,,
you're,
really
doing
this.
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D
Kimman
harmon:
so
we're
right
within
the
norm
for
a
college
town,.
So
obviously
without
accuracy,,
limits,
or
even
higher
limits,,
it
would
be
total
chaos
and
neighborhood
like
ours..
So
the
the
argument
that
boulder's,
occupancy,
limits,
limits
of
3
unrelated
people
is
somehow
unusual
or
extreme
is
is
false.
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E
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E
E
E
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E
E
Lisa
spalding:
an
increase
in
occupancy
would
force
the
student
ghetto
to
continue
to
creep
up
the
hill.
one
size
fits
all
planned.
A
race
occupancy
before
you
this
evening
will
cripple
the
hill
and
other
neighborhoods
around
the
university
and
overlay
that
excludes
these
neighborhoods
from
an
increase
in
occupancy
is
the
only
way
to
save
them.
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F
F
F
F
F
F
B
G
G
G
Lisa
nelson:
the
reason
I
moved
away.
just
so,
you
know,,
is
the
day
I
decided
to
move
away
was
the
day
that
city
council
approved
the
martha
house
conversion
into
luxury
student
rentals,,
because
that
was
the
moment
in
time
where
I
lost
any
hope
at
all,
that
the
city
would
do
anything
to
prevent
the
complete
demise
and
destruction
of
the
neighborhood.
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G
G
Lisa
nelson:,
this
is
it's.
You
have
the
power
to
say,
no,.
We
cannot
fit
more
students
into
this
neighborhood..
It
is
detrimental,.
It
is
detrimental
to
the
residents..
It's
detrimental
to
the
community..
It
is
detrimental
and
harmful
to
the
students
to
be
given
the
free
rain
in
the
environment
that
they
have
created
in
that
neighborhood..
G
G
G
Lisa
nelson:,
I
got
a
text
on
saturday
from
a
friend
of
mine
who
still
lives
on
that
block.
Who
was
at
her
wit's
end,
and
asking
me
if
I
could
help
her.
the
students
next
door
to
her
we're
occupying
a
house
that
previously
been
lived
in
for
23
years
by
a
friend
of
mine
who
had
an
artist
studio
in
the
backyard.
G
G
Lisa
nelson:
and
paying
members
to
come
to
their
backyard
and
work
out
all
the
time,
and
they
blast
the
music.
All
the
time.
and
these
neighbors
have
spent
the
entire
year
feeding
with
these
students
to
change
their
behavior,
and
they
get
nothing
but
verbal
abuse
in
return.
and
guess
what
has
the
city
ever
once?
Have
they
gotten
a
single
ticket??
Has
the
city
ever
even
cared
about
this
activity??
You
cannot
say
these
ordinances
are
going
to
fix
the
problems
on
the
hill.
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I
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Lynn
segal:
their
abuses
in
this
city;,
and
it's
outrageous
that
it
should
even
be
proposed
that
they
can
have
no
limit
on
university.
Hill.
you've
got
to
be
bonkers.,
this
is
nuts,,
and
yet
you
know
what
we
don't
have
the
choice,,
because
jared
can
do
whatever
he
wants.
and
who
who's
this
in
in
in
a
governmental
affairs
group
this
making
these
amendments?.
Where
did
they
come?
From?
where's?
This
public?
input.
J
J
J
Lynn
segal:,
but
you
know,
he's
not
going
to
get
my
vote
from
boulder.,
not
that
that
matters
to
him.
he's
got
higher
aspirations.
these
people..
Just
you
know,
we'll
sacrifice
anything
to
get
a
little
bit.
Better.
foreign
policy
in
ukraine,,
you
know,,
or
what
have
you?
it's
it's.
It's
gotta
be
a
radical
change.
and
this
is
just
horrific..
This
land
use
changes,,
I
mean,,
but
no
limit.
J
J
A
K
L
A
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M
brad,
mueller,
cob:,
but
the
actual.
any
plan
amendment
would
come
to
the
planning
board,
and
that's
is
currently
scheduled
for
late
late
summer,
early
fall,
and
that
any
rezoning
subsequently
would
be
separate
matters
as
well..
So
I'm
I'm
curious,
and
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
I,
but
just
trying
to
understand.
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N
N
M
Brad
mueller,
cob::
this
would
not
need
to
go
to
all
those
boards.
so,
for
example,
the
advice.
Environmental
advisory
board
would
not
necessarily
see
a
plan
amendment,
for
example,
and
and
they
wouldn't
necessarily
see
a
rezoning.,
so
planning
boards
a
little
unique
in
that
regard..
The
goal
is
to
prevent
the.
M
M
M
M
K
M
M
B
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K
M
M
K
K
K
M
M
K
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P
P
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P
P
P
Pb,
mark
mcintyre:
takes
this
on
pb,
mark
mcintyre:
would
do
this
seriously
and
verily
and
and
actually
it's
actually
kind
of
like
a
good
lawyer,,
you
know
you.,
you
can
argue
either
side
of
of
the
of
the
case.
so
anyway,
I
I
I
found
it
to
be
actually
pleasant,.
So
I
would
advocate
that
if
someone
has
an
interest
in
this.
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M
O
O
M
O
M
N
K
M
M
M
A
M
Pb,
sarah
silver:,
but
there
you're
on
planning
board.,
but
but
then
there's
this
timeframe,
and
just
wanting
to
make
sure
that
you
one
of
your
object
that
someone
who's
gonna,
who
can
carry
the
baton
through
from
beginning
to
end.
okay,.
That's
very
helpful.!
No
thanks,!
Thanks
for
clarifying
that.,
that's
a
good
point.
A
N
N
Pb,
jorge
boone:,
because
our
voices
are
so
different
and
disparate,
and
I
think
important,
and
the
detail
is
important
for,
for
one
of
us
to
come.
In.,
listen
for
3
h.
give
our
peers
a
5
min.
update.
Only
to
have
this
come
to
the
planning
board
anyways,
and
represent
our
peers
back..
I
it
just.
It
seems
pretty
challenging.
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M
M
M
M
M
M
N
N
K
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
think,
george,
raises
a
very
interesting
point,
and
and
brad
had
some
very
interesting
responses
to
that..
I
also
don't
have
a
firm
position..
I
I've
just
started
thinking
about
this
since.
george
raised
it..
The
comment
that
I
was
going
to
make,,
which
might
or
might
not
be
related,
is
that
I
think
this
is
a
very
exciting
concept.
K
K
K
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
not
very
attractive,
or
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't
resonate
with
them.,
and
so
I
think,
having
such
a
wide
representation
of
our
different
boards
and
the
different
things
the
perspectives
that
they
might
bring
to.
this
is,
is
a
very
exciting
prospect,
and
I
think,
having
those
different
boards
here
each
other
and
talk
to
each
other
is
something
that
we
don't
often
have
an
opportunity
to
do..
I
do
think
that
planning
board's
perspective
on
long
range
planning
matters
is
unique.
K
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
and
I
think
this
could
be
a
very
interesting
venue
for
interchange,
for
staff
to
listen
in
on
that
dialogue,
and
weigh
the
different
perspectives
of
the
different
boards
in
the
same
room..
I
I
think
it's
very
exciting,,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
challenges
of
this
as
a
pilot
project.
K
I
appreciate
staff's,
boldness
and
creativity
here,
and
trying
to
make
this
work..
I
imagine
there
may
be
some
tweaks
to
this
going
forward..
I
I'm
inclined
to
say,.
I
think
this
would
be
exciting
for
one
of
us
to
be
involved
in,
and
that
the
other
boards
could
benefit
from
hearing
planning,
board's,,
perspective,
and
vice
versa.,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
my
initial
past
at
it..
I
would
love
to
hear
what
other
people
think.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:
sorry!
what,,
sarah?
pb,,
sarah
silver:.
Do
you
have
anything
you
want
to
add,
you,
haven't
said
anything.
okay,,
I
don't.
no..
I
think
everything
that's
coming
up
is
consistent
with
kind
of
the
questions
that
I
had
to
reading
through
this
portion
of
the
packet
and
thinking
about
it,
and
just
trying
to
understand.
A
A
Pb,
lisa
smith:.
Is
there
any
way
I'll
weigh
in
briefly
on
that,
sarah?,
I
mean,.
It
seems
like
if
it's
moving
forward.,
if
there's
someone
who's
willing
to
put
in
the
time
toward
it,
that
it
would
be
good
to
be
present,,
even
if
we're
not
entirely
sure
what
it's
gonna
be
so,,
unless,
unless
nobody
and
and
this
is
fair
to
you.,
but
unless
nobody
really
wants
to
put
time
toward
it,,
I
think
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
presence.
A
K
K
A
A
A
A
A
N
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
are
you?
okay
with
someone
I'm
with
you,
100%,
sarah..
I
understand
your
logic,
and
I
support
it..
I
think
kurt
would
be
an
amazing
representative,
and
I
I
don't
think
it's
that
important
kurt
that
you
weren't
at
the
previous
meeting..
I
think
you
can
read
the
notes
and
talk
to
us
if
you
have
questions,
and
I
think
that
our
our
input
was
pretty
straightforward.
A
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K
R
Pb,
lisa,
smith:
and
carl
start
sorry
to
call
you
out,,
but
whenever
carl
might
step
back
in.
if
you
are
away,
karl,.
If
you
wouldn't
mind
speaking
to
the
code,
amendment
group
at
some
point,
just
to
remind
us
so
that
I
I
don't
think,
we've
actually
technically
met,,
which
is
fine,,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
understand
the
scope
of
that,
and
where
it's
at.
T
T
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R
P
P
P
P
M
P
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
it's
in
the
code.,
I
mean
it's,
it's
like
we,
we
didn't
remove
it
from
the
code.
I
I'd
be.
I'd
be
happy
to
stay
on
just
because
I'd
like
to.
I'd
like
to
participate
at
some
point.
me,
too.
I'd
be
delighted
to
stay
on
there,
and
I
know
code
amendment..
It's
not
group
working,,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
stand
that
in
case
it
gets
reactivated.
I'll
also
offer
just
speaking
for
myself,
individually,
that
I've
already
served
on
both
landworks
and
housing,
advisory,
board.
R
A
Pb,
sarah
silver::
let's
do
this.
okay.,
so
pb,,
sarah
silver:.
We
have
the
use
table
folks..
We
have
green
ways..
Now,
let's
just
go
from
the
top
to
the
bottom:
landmarks.
okay.,
so,
sarah,,
I'm
sorry,
I'm.,
I'm
being
really
anxious!
Here..
Can
we
start
editing
like,?
Can
we
delete
east
boulder
working
group
and
put
the
I'm
writing
things?
Down.
and
then,
oh,
okay,?
That's
okay.!.
A
U
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A
P
P
A
K
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
it
only
meets
once
a
month..
It
is
usually
a
long
meeting
once
a
month,,
but
you
don't
have
to
really
do
any
prep..
The
staff
do
a
really
good
job
of
walking
you
through,
so
that
you
can
understand
the
decision
that
they're
making
in
the
criteria
that
they're
using..
I
do
think
it
is
relevant
for
planning
board
members
to
understand
how
landmarks
works.
but
kurt
didn't
you
serve
on
landmarks
board
in
the
past.
K
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
see
pb,
lisa
smith:,
who
does
that?
lisa,
doesn't
have
a
lead.,
but
you've
already
done
landmarks..
I've
done
my
marks.
I'd
be
fine.
If
we
need
me
to
go
somewhere
else,,
so
I
could
certainly
service
back
up..
I
just
prefer
not
to
be
primary,
since
I've
already
done
it..
But
if
you
need
me
to
fill
in
back
up
on
the
marks,
there
certainly
can.
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K
P
O
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P
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K
N
N
N
Pb,
sarah
silver:
yeah,
I'd
I'd.
Here's
what
I'd
like
to
do.
then
I'd
like
to
drop
off
being
the
backup,.
For
I'm
sure
someone
will
will
happy,
do
that,
and
maybe
put
my
hand
in
the
ring
to
be
the
lead
on
dab
next
year
rather
than
that..
So
let's
just
do
this..
Let's
for
right,
now,
ml.
for
dab.,
we
will
figure
out
the
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guiler,
cob:
kind
of
an
elephant
in
the
room
at
the
moment,,
because
it's
a
relatively
new
thing
that
came
along
since
we
started
these
2
projects.,
so
just
to
talk
about
that,
and
then
I'll,
move
into
part,
4
and
part
5..
So
part
4
is
gonna,
really
cover
occupancy..
So
I'm
gonna
talk
a
bit
about
the
history
of
occupancy
and
boulder.
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say
community
input
for
ordinance
revision.
so
from
that
we've
also
come
up
with
these
goals
of
the
project.,
so
you've
probably
read
them
in
the
in
the
memo.,
but
in
general,
like
we're,
trying
to
look
at
simple
land
use
code,
amendments
that
can
provide
greater
housing
opportunities
in
the
community
while
preserving
neighborhood
character
in
established
neighborhoods,
and
that
changes
with
the
community.
so
again,.
Both
these
projects
are
growing
out
of
the
housing
crisis.
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guiler,
cob:,
so
just
to
give
a
heads
up
of
of
the
kind
of
questions
we're
gonna
ask
the
board.
Tonight.,
I'm
gonna
go
through
the
first
part
and
then
the
first
2
questions:
are.
Are
there
any
questions
on
the
city's
occupancy
regulations,
and
then
does
planning
board?
Have
any
questions
related
to
the
the
general
project.
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guiler,
cob:
things
online
related
to
zoning,
where
there
are
simple
changes
in
the
zoning
code
that
could
actually
get
more
housing
and
get
more
affordable,
housing
in
the
communities,
and
related
to
density,,
calculations,
or
parking,,
or
things
like
that..
So
we've
been
doing
some
research,
and
I'll
present
those
tonight.
so
and
the
next
slide
shows
the
same
relative.
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guiler,
cob:
questions.
first,,
we'll
start
with
the
questions
one
and
2
like,.
Are
there
any
questions
about
how
the
city
regulates
residential
density,
anything,
any
questions
about
the
general
project?
and
then
I'll
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
options
and
the
feedback,
and
then
we'll
ask
for
feedback
from
the.
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guiler,
cob:,
you
can
see
that
the
karl
guiler,
cob:
the
goal
is
to
try
to
complete
occupancy.
reform
by
august,,
bringing
an
ordinance
to
council
and
completing
zoning
for
affordable
housing
in
september,.
So
that
means
a
planning
board
will
likely
be
seeing
an
ordinance
and
making
a
recommendation
on
occupancy
reform
in
july..
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guiler,
cob:
in
november
of
last
year,
statewide..
They
basically
created
the
state
affordable
housing
funds
similar
to
how..
So
you
know,
boulder
has
an
affordable
housing
program
just
for
boulder,
and
it
does
dedicate
state
income
tax
revenue,
roughly
290
milliondollars
a
year
to
fund
housing
programs
in
a
variety
of
different
ways.
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guiler,
cob:
throughout
the
state.,
karl
guiler,
cob:
and
that's
you'll,
remember
that
the
the
governor
brought
up
housing
as
a
as
a
major
issue
at
the
state
of
the
state.
Earlier
this
year,
and
then,
just
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
a
a
draft
of
a
new
colorado
senate
bill,
23,
d,
2
1
3,,
was
unveiled
that
relates
to
land
use.
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guiler,
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update
their
codes,.
That
model
code
from
the
state
would
then
apply
in
the
jurisdiction.,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now..
So
I
thought
we
should
stop
here
and
happy
to
answer
questions..
I
can't
say
I'm
totally
an
expert
on
it,,
but
I've
been
in
some
meetings
and
reading
through
the
legislation,
and
we're
happy
to
help
out
with
this
part.
Before
we
move
forward.
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guiler,
cob:
in
1993,
the
council
of
that
time
actually
eliminated
that
practice
and
changed
the
code,
so
that
all
the
units
would
have
to
meet
the
new
occupancy
standards.
Which,,
as
you
can,
imagine,
got
a
lot
of
push
back
from
landlords,
you
know,,
where
they
all
of
a
sudden
had,
you
know,
empty
units
that
they
couldn't.
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guiler,
cob:
they've
asked
us
to
to
do
an
engagement
level
of
consult..
We
have
been
reaching
out
to
a
number
of
different
stakeholders
that,
at
our
last
check
in
with
council,,
they
did
ask
us
to
kind
of
broaden
the
scope
of
how
many
folks
were
speaking
to,.
So
we're
setting
up
meetings
to
talk
to
a
a
wide
range
of
folks
in
the
community
on
this
topic.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
I'm
gonna
go
over
other
committees
very
briefly.
if
you're
really
interested,.
I
I
encourage
you
to
go
into
the
links
to
the
council
study
session
memos,
where
we
have
attachments
that
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
the
communities.
We
looked
at,,
but
we
looked
at
60
different
communities.
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guiler,
cob:,
like
I
said,
california,,
oregon,
and
washington,
actually
a
state
legislation
that
makes
occupancy
prohibited
in
local
zoning..
So
those
states
now
do
not
have
occupancy
limitations.,
so
those
cities
don't
have
them.
minneapolis,
has
recently
elected
to
eliminate
their
occupancy.
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guiler,
cob:
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up
to
3
unrelated
if
the
unit
was
on
your
own
or
occupied.,
but
while
we
were
looking
at
that,,
we
found
out
that
they
were
actually
in
the
process
of
changing
their
occupancy
regulations,.
So
they've
actually,,
like
denver,,
have
changed
their
requirement
to
be
5
unrelated
citywide,.
So
that's.
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lisa
smith:,
you
know
who
they
want
to
rent
to..
I
guess
they
could
still
choose
to
rent
to
like
a
family
or
2
group
of
students,.
You
know,
on
the
hill..
You
might
prefer
to
rent
to
the
students,
because
that's
who
wants
to
live
there?
and
is
it
going
to
be
bad
about
noise?
and
we'll
pay
more
in
rent,
and
you
know,
so
on..
So
I
I
just
that's.
One
of
the
things
I
think
about,
you
know
is,
is
what
kinds
of.
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lisa
smith:,
you
know,,
if
you
can
cram
10
people
in,
and
I'm
not
saying
that.
That's
what
they're
trying
to
lift
to
do.
they're
trying
to
do
it
for
5..
I
I
just
wonder
about
how
that
impacts.
Certain
parts
of
the
city,
you
know,
ways
that
it
might
not
impact
others,
you
know.
yes,,
okay,,
that's
still
a
legal,
or,
you
know,
would
be
against
regulation
to
have
that
many
people
in.,
but.
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Is
it,
then,
that
much
easier
to
pb,
lisa
smith:
put
more
people
in?,
because
now
you
can
have
up
to
this
number,
and
anyway,.
I
don't
want
to
get
to
down
that
rabbit
hole,,
because
there
are
some
houses
on
the
hill
that
like
have
2
kitchens
and
have
a
higher
occupancy.,
but
that's
something
I
worry
about
specific
areas.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
come
under
the
title
of
occupancy,,
but
it's
really
related
to
noise,
or
it
might
be
trash
in
the
front
yard.
Parking..
You
know
things
like
that.,
so
they
kind
of
address
those
directly..
I
I
think
they've
noted
the
challenge
in
really
trying
to
understand.
I've.
I've
heard
this
from
other
communities,
too.
just.
T
Karl
guiler,
cob:,
it's
very
difficult
for
them
to
really
like,
know
for
sure,
how
many
people
are
actually
living
in
the
unit
who's
just
hanging
out
there
for
the
day.
or
you
know,
things
like
that..
I
think
a
lot
of
the
other
communities
that
I
talk
to
struggled
with
that,,
particularly
madison,,
because
that's
why
they.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
you
know,,
they
had
those
zoning
areas
that
had
those
duplexes,,
they
reduced
the
occupancy..
So
it
wasn't
necessarily,
from
what
I
heard
from
him,
that
they
didn't
increase
it,
and
then
then
suddenly
decrease
it..
It's
just
that
it
had
grown
over
time..
It
had
become
an
issue,
and
then
they
they
changed
it
to
reduce
the
occupancy.
T
Karl
guiler,
cob:
all
right.,
so
I'm
gonna
talk
about
community
engagement,
thus
far
on
occupancy..
So
obviously
occupancy
has
been
a
community
discussion
topic
for
many
years
in
boulder.,
we've
been
trying
to
get
the
word
out
on
this
latest
project
through
our
our
newsletter
in
the
city
website..
Obviously,
the
ballot
measure.
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guiler,
cob:
and
then
a
couple
of
council
members
also
brought
up
just
the
family
definition.
see
if
there
make
sure
that
the
community
is
aware
of
of
what
our
definition
is,
and
whether
there's
any
folks
in
the
community..
I
think
that
it
should
be
changed
or
modified.,
so
we
will
be
educating
people
on
on
how
our
code
works.
Today.,.
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jorge
boone:,
that's
a
requirement,
and
see
you
has
not
made
that
commitment
to
boulder
instead.
boulder
is
sitting
here,
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
you,
should
have
figured
out
a
long
time
ago,
and
should
be
figuring
out
and
giving
us
a
strategic
plan
now
as
a
city,,
because
we
are
in
a
crisis
in
those
neighborhoods..
We
heard
from
all
those
neighbors.
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Pb,
jorge
boone:
that
that
live
there.
now,
pb,
jorge
boone:,
that
that's
a
major
problem,
and
that
that
student,
that
student
population
is
also
pushing
on
the
affordability
of
boulder..
There
are
other
dynamics
that
are
happening,,
but
that
student
population
is
is
pushing
a
lot
of
that
housing
stock
to
unaffordable
levels.
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jorge
boone:-
I
I
think
you
know
pb,
jorge
boone:.
We
need
to
consider
that
as
as
human
beings,
and
make
sure
that
that's
set
up
appropriately
in
our
code
in
a
way
that
that
also
honors
what
this
is
trying
to
do,
but
at
the
same
time
also
honors,
where
we're
headed
as
a
society
and
make
sure
that
everyone
is
included..
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Pb,
jorge
boone:
and
then
pb,
jorge
boone:
truthfully,.
I
think
the
council's
misdirected
here,,
because
I
think
where
we
should
be
putting
our
pressure
as
a
city
is
on,,
see
you,
and
getting
them
to
build
more
dorm
rooms
to
solve
this
problem.
and
we're
going
at
where
we're
just
letting
the
the
tail
wag.
The
dog.
K
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
I'm
gonna
agree
with
george
that,
ideally
we
could
work
with
the
university
to
get
more
dorm
rooms
built..
I
do
think
that's
both
a
better
community
experience
and
a
better
student
experience,
speaking
as
someone
who
spent
all
4
years
of
my
undergraduate
in
university
housing
and
enjoyed
the
experience
greatly.
K
Laura
kaplan,,
pb:
and-
and
I
came
from
the
collegiest
college
town
in
america,,
the
highest
amount
of
students
per
townies,,
and
the
only
reason
why
we
didn't
have
a
higher
percentage
of
rentals
rented
to
students
than
here
in
boulders,.
Because
there
were
so
few
rentals
because
everybody
lived
on
campus..
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
the
pressure
from
investors,
is
real..
It's
happening,
now,,
you
know,
as
many
of
our
commenters
mentioned.,
there's
already
this
turnover
of
housing
to
investors,
and
they're,
either
going
to
rent
it
out
and
make
a
profit
that
way,
or
they're
going
to
tear
it
down
and
build
a
very
large
luxury,
home,,
the
largest
thing
that
they
can
build,
and
it
might
still
stay
in
a
single
family.
Occupancy.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
you
can
shop
around
basically
as
the
point.,
when
you
have
more
options,
you
can
shop
around,
and
that
does
lower
rental
prices,,
maybe
not
to
the
extent
that
everybody
would
like..
But
I
don't
think
it's
a
strict..
I'm
going
to
charge
x
amount
per
bedroom,,
no
matter
whether
I
can
have
3
people
there
or
5
people
there.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:
I've
had
some.
pb,
lisa
smith:
in
my
opinion.
I'm.,
using
conversations
with
people
from
where
they're
like,.
What
is
boulder
doing
to
solve
the
housing
crisis?
and
I'm
like,.
Why
didn't
you
buy
a
bunch
of
houses
like
a
whole
bunch
of
other
overseas
did
back
in
the
sixties
and
seventies,
and
like
deal
with
the
problem.
anyway.
R
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
you
know.,
so
so
that
that's
something
that
we
deal
with,
and
I,.
I
very
much
would
push
back
to.
Council.-
you
know
whether
it's
this
or
anything
else.
whatever
gets
passed
off
and
get
past
wherever
the
state
does,,
to
continue
to
the
extent
that
we
can
to
put
pressure
on.,
see
you,,
because
you
know
it's
on
them
to
also
provide
housing.
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R
R
R
R
Pb,
lisa
smith:
over
occupied
houses
near
me
not
hard
to
hide,.
You
know.
people
like
the
roommate
who
doesn't
exist
on
the
lease
showed
up
to
the
landlord
meeting,
and
we
just
had
to
pretend
she
was
a
friend,.
You
know,
and
I
was
like
that's
offered,,
you
know,,
like
we
put
the
mattress
up,
and
I'm
like,
yeah,.
We
know
the
tricks
right.,
you
know
what
to
do.,
but
you
take
that
that
chunk
of
change,
and
you
divided
across
5
instead
of
4,,
and
it
is
more
affordable,,
as
opposed
to
legally
renting
to
5.
R
R
Pb,
lisa
smith:
recognize
that
this
is
not..
This
is
mostly
just
going
to
mean
more
legal
student
housing
like
that's,
that's,
basically
what
you're
enabling.
I
I'm
now
not
40,
but,
like,,
you
know,,
all
my
friends
in
their
thirties
and
forties,
started
buying
right,
and
most
of
them
bought
an
eerie
lewis
phone
off..
Yet
this
is
really
primarily
an
issue
for
people
in
college
and
in
their
twenties
before
they
realize
they
either
can't
afford
to
be
in
boulder.
R
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
it's
got
to
be
student
housing..
I
I
just.
I
don't
see
how
it's
not..
You
know
the
one,
the
one
caveat
that
I
would
put
on
top
of
that..
That
was
something
that
I
thought
was
a
really
good
point
back
with
bedrooms
are
for
people
with
some
of
the
other
stuff
is
senior
housing,.
You
know,
legalizing
it,
you
know,
across
the
board,
also
to
legalize
it
for
seniors
who
are
going
to
be
in
trouble
soon.
If
they're,
not
already.,.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:.
I
is
up
the
goal..
I
don't
know
it's
nice
for
landlords,.
I
guess
you
know.
and
but
again,
like,.
Is
it
going
to
do
anything
that
terrible
to
move
it
up
to
4
or
maybe
5?,
maybe
not.?
I
mean,
a
lot
of
those
are
over
occupied
already..
It
just
legally
allows
you
to
raise
rent
higher.
so.
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sarah
silver:
but
pb,
sarah
silver:
to
georgia's
point.
They
have
not
made
housing
students
a
priority
at
all,
and
the
consequence
has
been
a
spillover
onto
the
city..
The
city
keeps
solving
and
trying
to
solve
the
use
problems
without
being
able
to
solve
its
own
problems
of
not
having
a
for
housing
that
is
affordable
for
people
who
work
here
in
families.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:-
and
this
is
going
to
end
up
being
a
taxpayer
cost..
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
really
be
thinking
about
this
long
term
infrastructure
costs
which
ml.
also
brought
up..
She
she
may
not
been
thinking
about
ev,,
but
those
infrastructure
costs
are
very
real,
and
the
city
has
to
see.
have
to
know
what
that's
going
to
cost
us
to
keep
up.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:,
I
would..
I
would
suggest
that
what
the
city
would
be
better
focused
on
if
they
really
want
to
address
affordability,
is
to
increase
the
percentage
of
currently
affordable
units
in
new
developments,
and
increase
commercial
linkage
fees
to
support
development
of
permanently
affordable
units,.
I
think.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
but
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
other
side
of
the
coin,,
which
is
incentives
to
encourage
better
relationships
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods,,
and
I
know
that
the
city
has
programs,
for
example,
to
do
neighborhood,
block
parties
and
funding
for
that,,
or
I,
I
believe,
there's
some
programs
for
student
volunteerism
in
their
own
neighborhoods..
And
so
I
think.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:.
We
should
also
look
at
better
developing
those
ways
to
connect
students
and
residents,
so
that
there
isn't
this
adversarial
dynamic
in
the
neighborhoods
that
people
are
talking
to
each
other
about
things
other
than
when
they
have
a
problem
with
each
other,
and
think
about
those
incentives
to
encourage
better
neighborhood
relationships..
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
also
as
something
to
think
about.
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guiler,
cob:
market
rate
housing,
because
it's
all
connected,
and
and
that's
the
point
that
we're
gonna
try
to
make
through
this
presentation
is
just..
Where
are
there
opportunities
in
the
city
to
allow
more
housing,
so
that
we
can
get
more
deed,
restricted,
housing,,
so
I'll.
I'll
paint
that
picture
a
little
bit
more
as
we
move
forward.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
so
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
construct
of
how
this
city
regulates
density.
just
so
we
have
a
clear
understanding
moving
forward,
so
obviously
everything
we
do
through
our
zoning
ordinance
is
implementing
what
the
vision
in
the
boulder
valley
comforts
of
plan
is..
So
this.
T
Karl
guiler,
cob:
slide
is
meant
to
just
show
kind
of
the
the
framework
for
the
whole
city..
The
vision
is
set
out
in
all
the
comp
plan,
policies,
all
the
focus
areas,
and
then
it's
implemented
in
a
number
of
different
ways
like
it
can
be:
through,
you
know,
commercial
or
the
capital
improvement
projects.
Certain
programs.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
so
when
you
look
at
the
the
boulder
valley,
comfort
to
plan
in
the
beginning
pages
of
it.,
there's
a
number
of
focus
areas
that
go
on
over
a
number
of
different
topics,.
Obviously,
housing,
affordability,
and
diversity
is
considered
one
of
the
primary
focus
areas
in
the
compliance..
So
we
we've
taken
this
very
seriously.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
everything
that
we
do
through
zoning
has
to
be
consistent
with
our
land
use
designation..
So
you
can
see
that
all
the
the
land
uses
throughout
the
city
have
a
land
use
designation,
and
it's
basically
the
vision
for
those
areas.
and
then
that
ultimately
gets
implemented
through
the
actual
zoning
districts..
So
you
can
see
that.
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guiler,
cob:
and
the
yellow.,
and
then
you
can
see
that
the
when
you
get
more
towards
the
brown
is
high
density,
residential
and
a
number
of
different
land
uses..
But
I
just
wanted
to
start
with
the
land
use
map
that
we
are
always,.
You
know,
looking
at
to
make
sure
that
it's
consistent,
or
zoning
is
consistent
with
it.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
there.
what
I'm
trying
to
lay
out
here
is
that
the
request
to
increase
density
and
a
lot
of
the
areas
that
are
single
family
is
a
much
more
involved.
Process.,
it's
not
something
that
can
easily
be
changed.,
and
I'm
saying
this
absent,.
You
know
what
might
happen
at
the
state
level,
because,
like
if
the
state
passes
a
mandate.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
lower
density
zones
do
have
intensity
limitations.,
so
very
low
density
areas
are
2
dwelling
units
per
acre
or
less,.
That
tends
to
be
one
of
the
lowest
density
areas
of
the
city.
Typically,
areas
that
were
developed
in
the
county
that
were
annexed
into
the
city
have
that
density.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:-
maybe
I'll
hopefully
answer
it
in
this
question
or
in
this
slide..
But
if
not,
I'm
happy
to
do
it.,
I
think
it's.
It
could
be
the
next
slide..
So
as
far
as
like.,
how?
How
does
boulder
regulate
density??
You
can
see
there's
the
different
categories,,
the
less
than
2
dwelling
units
per
acre,,
the
2
to
6
for
low
density,
6
to
14
for
medium,
and
then
more
than
14
for
high
density..
So
the
way
that
translates
into
our
zoning
code
or
land
use
code.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
that
makes
sense
to
get
more
affordable
housing..
So
when
we
look
at
the
growth
areas
in
the
city,,
which
is
typically,,
you
know,
neighborhood
centers
in
areas
where
the
complaint
anticipates
more
mixed
use
and
housing,,
you
can
see
the
map
from
the
complaint
that
shows
the
different
neighborhood
centers.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
changes
recently
to
the
use
standards
to
allow
more
land
areas
within
the
industrial
zones
that
can
allow
a
residential.
so
we're
we're
really
trying
to
move
on
what
the
comp
plan
and
the
last
update
set,
which
is
really
try
to
make
it
easier
for
housing
in
like
light
industrial
areas
or
in
commercial
areas..
So
that's
largely
been
our
focus.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
say
the
2
karl
guiler,
cob:
to
in
this
scenario,
you
would
get
a
much
lower
average
unit
size,
you
know,
roughly
like
1,200
square
feet
per
unit.,
so
I
think
that's
the
goal
that
we're
really
trying
to
work
towards..
So
what
we've
been
asked
by
council
to
do
is
look
at
these
particular
areas
like.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
the
designation
sets
the
the
density,
and
then
we
write
the
zoning
to
kind
of
fulfill
that.,
and
you
know
we
might
be
able
to
look
at
full
blocks
and
see
what
the
averages
are.,
but
it's
it's
very..
It
gets
very
complicated
at
that
point
to
see,
you
know,.
If
there's
flexibility,
to
allow
increased
density
or
not.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
you
know
we
should
consider
looking
at
some
other
zones
or
other
opportunities
to
to
add
units..
So
we
did
that,
and
we
we
looked
at
the
rl.
zones,
and
we
saw
that
there
is
some
level
of
capacity
there..
So
we
do
like
that's
why
I'm
saying
it'd
be
great
to
get
the
boards
feedback
on
that
tonight,
so
that
we
can
convey
that
to
council
in
june.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:,
I
don't
think
with
any
of
these
changes.
We
can
expect
that
when
the
code
change
happens,
that
all
these
things
are
gonna
happen
instantaneous,
and
that
we're
gonna
get
a
fulfillment
of
the
goal
like
in
a
couple
of
years..
I
mean,.
I
think
this
is
very
long
term..
You
know
the
there's
a
lot
of
lots
out
there
now
that.
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Karl
guiler,
cob:
might
be
the
biggest
karl
guiler,
cob:
change
that
we
see
that
it
would
spur
more
development,,
particularly
in
the
eastern
parts
of
the
city,
where
development
is
anticipated.,
we're
we're
trying
to
get
more
housing
in
the
industrial
zones
and
along
multimodal
corridors
and
mixed
use.
Areas..
I
think
that's
where
a
lot
of
a
change,,
I
think,
will.
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T
Karl
guiler,
cob:
the
board
largely
supported
the
potential
options,
the
recommended
options
that
that
staff
brought..
They
did
express
some
disappointment
that
the
scope
couldn't
include
more
missing
middle
housing
and
more
infill
in
the
single
family
neighborhoods
similar
to
you
know
what
we
heard
with
some.
In
council.-.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
am
I
understanding
correctly,
that
that
would
mean
they
basically
trade
away
their
right
to
subdivide?
and
instead,.
They
would
have
the
option
of
doing
a
duplex
or
a
triplex,,
whatever
the
amount
of
land
that
they
own
would
allow.
okay,.
I
would
say
that
I'm.
cautiously,
supportive
of
that.
I
would
want
to
wait
and
see
what
happens
with
the
state
bill.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
parking
reductions
almost
every
time
they
are
brought
to
us.
the
one
thing
that
I
think
planning
board
adds,.
That
is
of
great
value,
that
I
would
really
like
to
see
staff
push
hard
on..
I
would
like
to
you
push
just
as
hard
on
robust
tdm
plans,,
because
if
we
are
going
to
reduce
parking,
requirements.
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Pb,,
jorge
boone:,
so
it's
it's..
It's
a
thought
process
around
negotiating
with
a
developer
and
making
sure
we
maximize
the
leverage
that
we
have,
rather
than
making
it
an
assumption
that
they're
going
to
get
0
point
7,
5
per
unit,,
because
that's
what
staff's
allowed
to
do,
and
that's
what
gets
done.
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Pb,
jorge
boone:,
so
that
that's
kind
of
a
comment.-
I
don't
I
don't
have
a.
I
don't-
have
a
a
cure
to
that.,
but
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
reduce
it
further
than
that
specifically,,
because
I
I
think
there
is
a
place
for
planning
board
to
question
those
types
of
things
to
to
enable
us
to
get
a
little
bit
more
from
the
developer..
Thank
you.
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sarah
silver:-
let's
see
if
we
can
use
this
very
speedy
process,
to
try
to
push
that
through
without
having
to
kind
of
I
mean
people
saying,
don't
have
public.
input,
but
this
is
a
very
speedy
process
that
is
not
going
to
allow
us
in
that.
Not
a
lot
of
folks
who
live
in
rr.
re.,
which
I
do
not
live
in.
I
actually
live
in
rfx.
2.
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Hella
pannewig
-senior
counsel,
cob:.
This
all
relates
just
to
the
final.
but
I'm.
mentioning
this
because
you,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen,
the
name
which
has
an
update
to
the
preliminary
title,
report,
or
attorney
memorandum.,
and
really
we're
talking
about
a
title.
report.
Him.
Because
that's
what
was
submitted
to
me.
this
requirement.
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Hella
pannewig
-senior,
counsel,
cob:
after
the
site
would
be
approval..
There
were
a
few
additional
steps
required,,
including
vacation
of
the
alley
that
was
proposed
to
be
developed.
With
this
that
was
approved
by
city
council,
and
then
technical
documents
and
pre
preliminary
plan
were
approved
by
staff.
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pannewig
-senior
counsel,
cob:,
so
the
title
report
that
was
submitted
hella
pannewig
-senior
counsel,
cob:
by
the
applicant
is
attached
to
you.
my
attachment
a.
and
it
identifies
the
things
that
are
typically
part
of
a
title
record..
In
this
case
it
identifies
3
parcels
that
were
to
be
subdivided
in
the
legal
description
title
to
those
3
parcels.
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Hella
pannewig
-senior
counsel,
cob:,
so
the
title
report
provided
for
purposes
of
meeting
the
final
plat
requirements
of
section
9,,
12,
8,
c.
2,
does
not
have
to
be
based
on
an
abstract
of
title,
and
that
the
title
report
that
was
submitted
satisfies
the
front
of
that
requirements
of
section
9,,
12,
8,
c.
2,.
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lisa
smith:
by
introducing
this
motion,
and
passing
this
motion,.
In
addition
to
addressing
what
we
were
asked
to
do
by
the
appellate
court,
that
we
are
also
laying
down
case
law,
such
that
the
code,
as
currently
written,
shall
be
interpreted.
This
way,
moving,
forward,
and
that,
well
sure
would
be
nice
to
make
things.
Look
real,
pretty
and
put
commas
where
we
got
them,
and
so
on,
etc.,.
R
L
L
Pb,
lisa
smith:
cool,,
then
I
would
like
to
invite
my
fellow
members
of
the
board..
I
don't
want
to
shut
down
conversation..
It
is
now
1033
at
night
on
a
tuesday,
unless
you
have
something
darn
good
to
say..
I
would
love
for
us
to
swiftly
move
to
introducing
this
and
considering,
passing
it,
and
not
worry
so
much
about
how
we're
going
to
fix
it.