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City of Boulder Planning Board 3-18-21
D
Well,
thank
you
so
much
gene
and
cindy
and
what
I
did
right
before
we
turned
on
the
recording
was,
I
called
us
to
order
and
declared
a
quorum.
So
thank
you
everybody
for
attending.
We
before
we
started.
We
actually
waved
at
our
at
our
new
upcoming
member
george
moon,
welcome
and
thank
you
for
coming
lisa
and
lupita.
Would
you
just
unmute,
and
just
so
george
can
put
a
face
with
the
name
in
case
you
haven't
met
yet.
F
G
G
D
And
welcome
again,
this
is
it's
always
a
a
landmark
part
of
the
year
when
we
have
a
new
face
with
in
the
board.
So
thank
you
for
joining
us
so
with
that.
The
next
item
of
business
is
to
do
nominations
and
elections
for
a
new
chair,
and
vice
chair
and
helles,
sent
out
the
procedures
for
that
which
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
the
way
through,
because
it
kind
of
depends
on
how
things
go,
which
how
we'll
do
this.
D
F
We
always
keep
an
eye
on
what
kind
of
stability
of
the
board,
so
we
try
to
always
have
some
continuity,
so
I
would
like
just
to
kind
of
get
a
sense,
hopefully
that
we
have
people
who
are
going
to
be
around
for
another
year,
at
least
because
I
know
that
david
will
be
stepping
out
and
I'm
concerned
about
not
having
a
a
transition.
So
I
just
when
I
put
that
out
there,
because
that
has
been
kind
of
like
the
mode
that
I
do
my
one.
It's
not
like.
F
I
do
them
so
I'm
in
boards,
where
this
is
happening.
This
is
the
standard
where
we
actually
are
in
this
transition
from
assistant
to
to
main
person,
sometimes
even
a
three-year
thing,
precisely
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
stability
and
continuity.
So
that's
the
only
thing
I
would
like
to
put
there.
So
whoever
is
still
thinking
about
running
I
will.
I
will
just
ask:
you
know,
keep
that
in
mind,
because
that
would
be
something
that
weighs
at
least
heavily
on
me.
D
F
E
Do
you
mean
for
the
vice
chair
like
so
like
if
somebody
were
to
be
rotating
off
in
a
year
and
potentially
considering
staying
on
the
board
or
transitioning
away
from
the
board?
Are
you
saying
that
somebody
on
exec
you
would
like
whether
it's
the
vice
chair
or
the
chair
you'd,
like
one
of
those
people
to
be
someone
who's
planning
to
be
around
for
more
than
a
year?
Is
that.
F
Yes,
so
because,
usually
how
it
works
on
the
boards-
and
these
are
you
know
mostly
scientific
boards
when
I've
been
many
times
the
the
the
way
you
work
is.
If
we
have
this
commitment,
usually
about
two
or
three
years
where
we
are
really
kind
of
being
trained
to
take
on
a
role
so
that
we
know
that
that
person
is
going
to
be
in
learning
the
ropes,
and
so
when
that
person
transitions
into
the
actual
role,
there's
somebody
else,
who's
already
been
trained.
Also
so
that
has.
F
I
have
found
that
to
be
incredibly
helpful
because
you're,
not
you
know
especially
diving
in
for
the
first
time
period
and
with
no
support,
and,
as
you
know,
this
is
not
a
simple
board
to
servant
and
now
that
now
that
herman
has
just
stepped
out,
I
know
I'm
gonna
miss
him
a
lot,
because
he
really
was
a
good
leader,
and
so
now
I
know
that
david.
I
don't
know,
I'm
assuming
that
david
is
gonna,
be
running
for
for
chair.
D
Okay,
well,
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
certainly
cross
that
bridge
when
we
come
to
the
nominations
and
as
we
speak
to
each
nomination,
we
can.
We
could
keep
that
into
account.
Thank
you
lupita
for
bringing
that
up.
So
with
that,
I
guess
I'll.
Just
go
back
to
first
calling
for
any
nominations
for
the
chair
position.
D
J
D
Okay,
well,
the
rules
mean
say
that
I
have
to
accept
that
I
will
the
nomination,
so
I'm
honored.
Thank
you
so
much
sarah
and
I
think
thank
you
for
providing
me
the
opportunity
to
be
the
only
nominee.
So
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
a
vote.
Normally
we
would
do
just
hands
since
it's
a
single
nomination.
I
think
that's,
probably
okay,
even
though
we're
virtual
to
save
time,
do
people
want
to
vote
on
the
nomination
of
me
to
be
the
new
chair
for
next
year.
D
I
see
hands
from
everybody
all
seven
unanimous
decision.
Well,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that.
So
with
regards
to
the
vice
chair
position,
I
I
I
hear
your
your
concern,
lupita
and
I
was
actually
we've
always
kind
of
taken
the
approach
of
giving
people
who
have
served
for
the
longest
an
opportunity
to
be
in
the
lead,
but
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
peter
did
you
have
anything
you
wanted?
I
saw.
I
think
I
saw
your
hand
going
up
earlier.
K
K
D
K
K
F
L
K
L
J
J
David
was
when
he
asked
me.
I
had
raised
my
hand,
and
so
that
was
my
question
because
it's
a
great
point
lupita
and
I
wanted
to
query
the
the
team
as
well
as
staff
on,
if
it's
a
standing
practice
or
if
it's
been
a
cause
for
concern
before,
because
every
board
composition
based
on
the
timing
of
you
know,
absence
is
different
so
by
the
way,
otherwise,
I'm
ready
to
move
on
with
you
know
the
process.
Thank
you,
john
did.
K
D
D
L
J
It's
an
honor
to
step
up
and
into
this
with
you
all.
There
have
been
some
very
strong
people
in
this,
both
these
positions
and
it's
been
an
amazing
experience
of
my
life.
Probably
the
you
know
sing
one
of
the
single
most
meaningful
experiences
and
I've
to
have
this
moment
now
and
with
david
who
I
have
just
great
respect
for
his
poise,
and
I
think
I
learned
a
lot
with
cindy
and
liz
on
tussling
and
boy.
J
L
J
D
Great
well,
thank
you
for
being
so
eloquent
peter
and
I'll.
Just
reiterate
how
much
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
next
year
and
working
with
you
all,
it's
going
to
be
great!
It's
going
to
be
fantastic
and
feel
free
to
offer
me
up
any
feedback
on
anything
that
you
think
could
be
done
to
to
make
things
run
better
any
time.
J
And
let's
take
into
account
the
very
real
concern
that
lupita
brought
having
served
on
many
more
boards
and
committees.
You
know
in
positions
than
I
have
probably,
and
I
value
that
experience,
and
so
let's
do
find
ways
to
convey
it
down,
because
that's
the
city
is
the
beneficiary
of
that
of
and
that's
what
the
city
deserves.
And
that's
what
we're
here
for
so
thank
you,
lupita
for
bringing
that
up.
F
I
I
thank
you.
Thank
you
for,
and
understanding
what
my
intention
was.
In
fact,
I
had
a
really
funny
story
about
when
I
was
secretary
for
my
scientific
community
and
I
had
the
person
who
was
being
trained,
he
got
to
call
me
the
boss
and
the
master,
and
that
was
so
really
funny
because
it's
like
the
last
thing,
but
it
was,
it,
was
in
a
very
collegial
way
and
we
just
made
fun
of
it.
F
D
Great,
we
really
appreciate
that,
and
so
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
then
to
the
second
agenda
item,
which
is
the
approval
of
minutes.
We
we
have
the
february
4th
and
february
18th
minutes
scheduled
for
review.
I
know
cindy
that
harmon
was
invited
to
send
in
comments.
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
got
any
comments
back
for
him,
for
if
he
was
happy
with
the
minutes.
Okay,.
D
I
D
L
D
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D
K
K
L
D
M
D
I
D
D
D
People
will
raise
their
hands
and
I
think
gene
will
you
be
selecting
people
to
speak
great,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
we
have
a
public
hearing
later
tonight.
It
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
hill
hotel
project.
So
if
you
are
here
to
speak
on
the
hill
hotel
project,
please
wait.
It
won't
be
very
long
and
we
have
a
separate
public
hearing
segment
for
that,
so
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
and
speak
on
anything
other
than
hill
hotel
project.
At
this
point
and
I'll,
let
you
take
it
away.
D
B
B
If
you
could,
please
raise
your
hand
now
or
if
you're,
having
trouble
with
raising
hand
if
you're
on
the
phone
think
we
have
anybody
on
the
phone,
but
that
is
a
star
nine
to
raise
hand.
Okay
looks,
like
lynn,
has
raised
hand.
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
try
one
new
thing
today
and
using
the
timer
on
the
screen,
so
lynn.
B
N
N
Okay,
so
number
one:
we
got
to
take
a
30
000
foot
perspective
here
in
boulder
and
if
the
council's
not
going
to
do
it
and
the
new
city
manager
is
not
going
to
do
it
and
the
new
city
journey,
whoever
that
is
is
not
going
to
do
it.
Then
you
need
to
do
it.
Somebody
needs
to
do
it.
There
needs
to
be
some
checks
and
balances.
N
Here
I
recall
the
time
february
of
2020,
when
sam
weaver,
in
a
study
session,
directed
staff
to
continue
on
cu
south
flood
plain
plan
without
passing
it
through
city
council.
This
was
completely
inappropriate
and
a
complete,
dismal
failure
of
city
process,
and
that
should
not
happen
again
under
your
watch
under
the
council's
watch
or
anybody
else's
watch
within
the
city
government.
N
The
thirty
thousand
foot
plan
I'm
talking
about
is
sundu
chem.
I've
heard
about
it
many
times
in
the
within
the
last
few
months,
and
I
call
it
the
integrated
climate
comp
plan
kind
of
like
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan,
but
this
is
a
kind
of
a
combination
of
the
integrated
planning
process
and
and
the
climate
and
it'll
be
the
integrated
climate
compound
plant.
Only
one
difference
from
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan,
it's
going
to
be
enforceable
and
every
city
department
and
and
advisory
board
is
going
to
have
to
meet
up
to
it.
N
N
Marpa
house
has
a
success
of
40
years
and
you
strip
that
away
with
your
decision
and
now
after
the
insurrection,
as
I
shall
call
it
of
march
6
down
on
the
hill,
there's
going
to
be
big
problems
for
cu
in
this
town,
there's
already
much
too
big
a
university
in
this
town
and
as
derek
silva
one
of
the
reps
for
cu
himself
said
it's
the
it's.
The
research
campus,
the
flagship
campus.
N
Well,
I
don't
think
those
folks
were
doing
research
on
march
6th
and
we
got
a
downsized
eu,
not
upsize
it,
and
we
got
to
separate
the
south
bola
floodplain
from
cu
annexation
entirely.
The
last
annexation
we
had
the
significant
one
was
a
disaster,
and
that
was
gun
barrel,
and
we
can
really
regret
that
now,
we've
done
very
little
for
gun
barrel.
They
have
very
little
of
the
infrastructure
that
they
need
and
it
was
takings
for
for
and
for
money.
N
N
Self-Sustainance
of
the
city
of
boulder
and
and
the
municip,
the
municipalization
had
a
huge
effect
on
the
built
environment.
Planning
board
has
a
big
effect
on
the
on
the
built
environment.
Obviously,
you've
proved
many
development
projects
and,
if
you're
going
to
be
approving
these
green
projects
with
an
electrification
you're
going
to
have
to
also
weigh
in
on
the
integrated
climate
comprehensive
plan.
Thank.
N
D
D
The
agenda
item
is
public
hearing
and
planning
board
consideration
of
a
combined
site
and
use
review
application
to
redevelop
1.45
acres
site
with
a
189
room
hotel,
along
with
retail
and
small
scale
office
located
generally
at
1313
broadway,
and
the
case
number
is
lur
2020-00040
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
hell
is
it
okay?
If
we
do
the
disclosures
now,
or
should
we
wait
until
after
the
staff
presentation.
D
Great
okay:
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
item,
and
so
we
are
under
strict
open
meetings
guidelines,
so
we
have
to
disclose
any
kind
of
ex
parte
that
we
may
have
had
or
any
potential
conflict
of
interest.
I'll,
just
report
that
I
have
gone
by
the
site
and
walked
around,
and
I
have
had
community
members
approach
me,
but
I've
been
able
to
encourage
them
to
send
their
comments
to
planning
board
before
they
got
into
any
conversation
with
me.
So
I
have
had
no
ex
parte
for
this
item.
K
D
G
K
E
Yeah,
just
just
that,
I'm
familiar
with
the
site
in
general
and
several
years
back
with
previous
iterations
of
the
project.
When
I
worked
for
community
vitality,
this
wasn't
a
project
that
I
was
involved
in
any
kind
of
decision
making
or
policy
around,
but
I
did
some
communications
related
to
it
with
just
updating
the
community
on
what
was
happening.
I
don't
see
it
as
anything
that
would
influence
me
in
any
particular
direction.
E
D
O
Great
thanks
very
much
good
evening,
chair
members
of
the
board
and
welcome
to
board
member
boone
and
thanks
in
advance
for
your
service
to
the
board.
It's
nice
to
have
you.
The
application
before
you
this
evening,
represents
a
milestone
in
a
long
journey
toward
helping
to
improve
the
hill
and
really
goes
back
to
2014.
When
council
commissioned
the
initial
hill
reinvestment
strategy
to.
O
P
Good,
thank
you
charles
good
evening.
Everyone.
While
I
get
this
presentation
booted
up
so
for
this
evening,
we're
gonna
take
a
look
at
a
some
housekeeping
soda
for
starters,
and
that
is
the
review
process
that
this
has
been
in
you.
Some
of
the
board
members
saw
this
as
a
concept
plan.
It
came
in
in
december
of
2019
and
then
in
february
a
year
ago,
planning
board
reviewed
it
city,
council
reviewed
it.
P
An
application
was
made
for
the
site,
review,
applications
and
then
design
advisory
board
reviewed
it.
So
it's
had
a
whole
host
of
review
tonight.
We're
taking
a
look
at
the
site,
news
review,
applications
which
are
also
subject
to
council
call-up
consideration
and
then,
if
it
gets
approved,
the
next
steps
are
tech,
doc
and
building
permit.
P
So
when
we
start
from
an
aerial
perspective
of
the
location.
It's
as
most
of
us
know.
It's
pretty
evident
that
it's
uniquely
located
across
broadway
from
the
main
campus
of
cu,
and
you
can
also
see
it's
juxtaposed
there
near
those
red
clay,
tile,
roofs,
pretty
distinctive
and
it's
near
the
university
hill
business
district.
So,
from
an
aerial
perspective,
you
get
a
pretty
good
sense
of
the
the
varied
and
eclectic
character
that
this
sits
in.
P
In
terms
of
the
planning
context,
the
broad
planning
context.
The
comprehensive
plan
has
for
decades
identified
three
regional
centers,
three
regional
activities:
centers
that
constitute
the
highest
level
of
intensity
and
pharma
triangles.
You
can
see
in
boulder's
geographic
center
with
the
downtown
bvrc
and
cu
together
with
university
hill,
business,
district
and
they're
defined
generally
as
places
with
potential
for
infill
and
redevelopment
that
are
higher
intensity
compared
to
established
residential
neighborhoods.
P
That
for
decades,
has
been
commercial
district,
with
a
variety
of
retail
restaurants
and
entertainment.
Venues
we'll
take
a
little
closer
look
at
a
couple
minutes
on
the
character
and
then
for
several
years
preceding
concept,
plan
and
site
review.
The
site
was
focused
of
city
efforts
with
the
university
hill
revitalization
strategy,
as
charles
talked
about,
and
it
was
really
the
goal
to
restore
university
hill
business
district
to
more
of
a
year-round
vitality.
P
The
site,
like
the
rest
of
the
business
district,
is
considered
mixed-use
business.
As
you
can
see,
it
essentially
encompasses
that
area
of
university
hill,
business
district
and
the
zonings,
in
keeping
with
the
land
use
defined
as
areas
generally
anchored
around
a
main
street
intended
to
serve
surrounding
residential
neighborhoods
and
its
anticipated
development
will
occur
in
a
pedestrian
oriented
pattern
with
buildings
built
up
to
the
street
retail
uses
on
the
first
floor,
residential
and
offices
above
that
and
where
complementary
uses
may
be
allowed.
In
this
case
hotels
allowed
in
bms
through
the
use
review.
P
P
P
There's
a
number
of
those
larger
collegiate
buildings
on
the
campus,
so
also
as
a
part
of
the
campus
diagonally
across
broadway
and
university.
Is
the
proposed
conference
center
and
hotel
planted
by
the
university.
It's
important
to
note
that,
because
the
university
is
a
state
entity,
there's
no
discretionary
review
ability
for
the
city.
However,
it's
acknowledged
that
the
site
and
the
proposal
would
have
a
good
synergy
with
the
proposed
conference
center
use.
P
Then
the
site
itself
has
been
developed
for
decades.
It
consists
of
surface
parking
lots
on
the
southwest
side-
that's
owned
today
by
ugit,
along
with
several
buildings,
the
most
prominent
of
which
is
that
two-story
in-line
walk-up
building,
it's
mostly
catering
to
student-oriented
retail
and
restaurants,
there's
tattoo
shops
and
laundromats,
head
shops
and
so
forth,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
there's
a
significant
grade
change
on
the
site,
which
goes
about
16
feet
from
that
low
point
on
university
up
to
the
high
point
so
on
to
the
existing
site.
P
Let's
back
up
just
a
little
here.
The
building
design
is
contemporary
and
it
has
traditional
elements
that
include
brick
detailing
window
fenestration
and
openings
that
are
traditional
in
their
configuration,
along
with
ground
floor
storefront
and
buildings
that
present
essentially
three
stories
on
pleasant
and
on
broadway,
and
then
because
of
that
topographic
change.
P
The
building
mass
moves
up
the
slope,
and
so
the
building
equates
to
a
51
foot
height
as
measured
from
that
low
point
along
university
that
we're
looking
here
in
elevation,
but
you
can
see
that
the
building
presents
itself
as
three
stories
for
kiyoshi
one
and
consistency
with
the
site
review
criteria,
we'll
focus
on
a
few
of
the
criteria
found
in
your
packet.
Regarding
that
first
criteria
that
asks
if
the
proposed
project
is
consistent.
On
balance
with
the
relevant
policies
of
the
comp
plan.
P
You'll
note:
there's
a
number
of
policies
that
the
applicant
has
addressed
on
the
on
the
left
and
on
the
right
are
policies
that
indicate
the
city
will
support
or
will
value
these
activities
that
fulfill
these
various
policies.
In
that
regard,
revitalization
of
the
hill
supports
role
of
tourism,
as
well
as
a
vital
and
reproductive
retail
base.
Regarding
the
criteria
for
open
space,
as
is
noted
in
the
memo
staff
finds
this
usable
open
space
is
arranged
to
be
accessible
and
functional
and
incorporating
quality
landscaping,
as
the
criteria
suggests.
P
The
illustration
on
the
right
shows
the
connectivity
of
the
pathway
through
the
site
to
the
university
as
hill
as
well
as
downtown,
and
then
that
future
cu
conference
center
and
essentially
it
opens
up
the
site
and
allows
folks
to
have
an
alternative
path
to
that
really
highly
traveled
broadway
for
circulation
policies.
The
applicant
shows
a
number
of
tdm
techniques
to
reduce
single
occupant
vehicles,
that
is,
limiting
the
land
devoted
to
the
street
system
by
placing
that
parking
below
grade
and
that
helps
to
address
other
site
review
criteria.
P
The
applicant's
also
proposing
to
unbundle
parking,
provide
a
pool
of
bikes
for
employees
and
guests,
participate
in
the
city's
eco-pass
program
and
will
also
provide
bus
passes
to
guests
of
the
hotel.
Applicants
also
construct
a
new
bus,
shelter
along
broad
weights,
intended
to
serve
those
many
different
bus
lines,
including
the
flex.
The
dash
skip,
flatiron,
flyer
and
relevant
to
this
use,
of
course,
is
the
ab
airport
buses
so
in
terms
of
building
design
and
height
in
the
context,
as
noted,
while
three
stories
would
be
the
predominant
perceived
height
because
of
the
slope
of
the
height.
P
That
portion
of
the
third
story
has
the
appearance
of
rising
above
the
third
story.
However,
in
the
context,
which
is
very
three
to
four
stories,
would
be
consistent
with
the
surroundings,
as
you
can
see,
and
then,
for
example,
on
that
north
elevation
along
university.
There's
that
three-story
northern
wing
of
the
building,
that
in
context
consistent
with
the
adjacent
three-story
sorority
house,
that
also
sits
a
little
bit
elevated
up
on
a
hill
and
the
building.
P
While
the
sites
within
the
area
of
the
code
under
appendix
j,
where
height
modifications
can
be
considered
the
project's
subject
to
a
new
site
review
criterion
related
to
community
benefit,
because
the
building
along
this
western
property
line
has
three
stories
above
grade
along
with
partially
below
grade
parking.
There's
a
little
bit
of
an
area
that
bounces
up
above
the
grade,
which
would
count
as
a
story
under
our
code.
And
so
it's
subject
to
the
provisions
that
draft
calculations
staff
prepared.
That
estimate
a
bonus
area
for
community
benefit
approximately
285
thousand
dollars.
P
With
regard
to
key
issue,
2
and
consistency
with
the
use
review
criteria,
we're
going
to
highlight
a
few
of
those
criteria
from
your
packet
for
the
rationale.
There's
two
applicable
standards
as
the
use
would
provide
a
compatible
transition
between
the
higher
intensity
uses
of
the
university,
of
course,
combined
with
the
university
hill,
commercial
district
and,
of
course,
residential
areas
to
the
north
and
the
west.
It's
a
hotel
use
is
essentially
a
temporary
residence
where
a
quiet
environment
is
really
the
the
gold
standard
for
how
to
operate
their
business.
P
Similarly,
the
project
can
be
considered
a
a
necessity
to
foster
a
specific
city
policy
in
this
case,
as
described
in
policy
2.20,
which
we
discussed
about,
encouraging
this
as
a
focal
point
and
a
catalyst
site
along
that
central
broadway
corridor
and
then,
in
terms
of
compatibility,
the
applicant
identified
a
number
of
operating
characteristics
that
are
part
of
the
management
plan
that
would
be
approved
as
part
of
the
project.
Everything
from
on-site
property
management
during
business
hours,
24,
7,
concierge
service,
specific
arrival
and
departure
times
for
guests.
D
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
elaine
great
presentation.
Yes,
let's
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
the
board
for
questions
and,
as
always,
you
know
to
respect
the
public
and
get
you
know,
save
our
long
analyses
for
later.
We
try
to
keep
it
just
questions
that
are
for
that.
The
city
staff
can
answer
that
will
help
us
when
we
deliberate
so
with
that
I'll
take
hands
for
questions.
D
I
Thanks
elaine,
can
you
talk
us
through
a
bit
the
design
advisory
board's
feedback
on
retail
building,
b
and
c?
I
saw
that
there
was
some
ques,
not
questions,
but
ideas
raised,
and
I
would
just
I'm
I'm
finding
those
two
sort
of
they
keep
blocking
my
sense
of
the
building.
So
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
if
you
could
walk
us
through
what
the
design
advisory
board
talked
about.
P
So,
at
the
time
when
it
was
at
design
advisory
board,
there
were
some
elements
of
the
building
that
are
are
now
different.
They've
redesigned
them
based
on
that,
but
it
was
that
northwest
corner
of
retail
building
b
had
a
staircase
that
was
essentially
a
utility
staircase
that
went
up
into
the
second
floor,
and
that
was
a
pretty
prominent
intersection
to
have
something
like
that.
So
they
redesigned
that.
P
I
Okay,
I
think
there
was
a
comment
about
a
permeability
of
the
walkway
that
some
and
I
might
have
been
misunderstanding,
but
it's
red
as
if
that
that
the.
What
I
guess
is
the
lantern
space
sort
of
interrupted
some
of
the
pedestrian
flow.
I
might
have
misunderstood
the
analysis,
but
that
was
what
I
thought
I
saw.
P
D
K
Go
I
serving
as
the
as
the
liaison
to
dab.
I
was
there
for
that
meeting
too
and
and
sarah
I
think,
you're
correct
that
that
there
was
some
discussion
of
that
of
that
element
there
and
it's
not
clear
to
me
exactly
how
it
changed
as
a
consequence
of
that
discussion,
maybe
elaine
can
describe
in
more
detail,
but
but
it
was
discussed
by
dapp.
K
P
Yes
and
I
I
think
it
would
probably
be
easiest
if
I
provided
you
with
some
slides
that
I
I
didn't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time
with
the
staff
presentation,
but
it's
a
fairly
detailed
new
code
section,
which
essentially
says
that
if
you
have
a
fourth
or
fifth
story,
that
it's
considered
bonus
floor
area
in
terms
of
a
hotel
use,
it's
based
on
a
percentage
of
rooms
of
the
overall
building
number
of
rooms
for
that
west
building
and
essentially
here's
the
math.
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
detailed.
P
P
So
you
take
the
total
guest
rooms
of
that
west
building
129
and
you
multiply
it
by
that
percentage.
It
works
out
to
be
31
rooms
and
then,
similarly
for
the
area
within
the
west,
building,
that's
a
ground
floor
retail
space
because
essentially,
that
ground
floor,
retails
part
of
that
four-story
building,
there's
a
similar
kind
of
calculation
and
so
what
it
works
out
to
be.
And
this
what
you
see
on
the
left
of
the
screen
are
the
impact
fees
and
those
change
over
time.
P
It's
taking
that
per
room
fee,
and
you
again
you
multiply
it
out
by
that
1.43,
essentially
43
increase
and
that
works
out
to
be
a
higher
fee,
and
you
multiply
that
by
that
percentage
of
rooms.
So
when
you
put
these
two
together
combined,
it's
about
285
thousand
dollars.
Does
that
address
your
question?.
K
P
And
part
of
the
challenge
of
putting
numbers
together
like
this
and
then
locking
it
into
a
site
review,
is
it
may
change
over
time?
As
I
say,
then
the
impact
fees
go
up
annually
and
if
this
is
an
approval
that
lasts
three
years,
it
could
change,
and
similarly
the
applicant
may
add
rooms
for
example,
or
change
the
floor
array.
P
So
it
changes
that
dynamic,
but
in
general
it
appears
to
be
that
it's
about
250
000
for
the
hotel
rooms
and
then
27
000
for
the
retail
and,
of
course
this
is
above
and
beyond
the
impact
fees
that
will
be
required
for
affordable
housing
linkage
fee
for
commercial
uses.
So
this
is
above
and
beyond
that.
D
P
F
Actually
that
was
my
question
and-
and
I
did
have
that
kind
of
stack
parking
when
I
was
in
boston
at
the
place
where
I
worked
and-
and
I
used
it-
I
I
have
more
of
that.
You
know
questions
in
terms
of
details
because
I
don't
think
I've
seen
it
in
boulder,
but
I
certainly
did
it
decades
ago
in
boston.
So
maybe
I'll
wait
for
it
for
the
applicant
and
we'll
ask
some
more
questions
about
that.
L
P
D
Great
any
other
questions
for
staff.
I
I
know
that
when
the
city
council
called
this
up
in
concept
review
last
year
there
there
were
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
sewer
relocation
and
whether
that,
if
there
are
any
complexities
expected
so
just
to
honor
the
their
interest,
does
it
look
like
that's
all
going
to
go
through
smoothly.
D
K
P
D
Great
okay!
Well
with
that,
are
we
ready
to
hear
from
the
applicant
great?
Let's
do
that.
I
I
know
that
the
standard
is
10
minutes.
I
know
this
is
a
pretty
big
project,
so
I
I
I
guess,
am
I
turning
it
over
to
danica
powell
to
start,
then
you
can.
Let
us
know
if
10
minutes
will
be
enough
to
cover
this
or
because
I
as
chair,
can
you
give
you
a
little
more
time
if
you
need
it.
Q
We
were
hoping
for
15
if,
if
possible,
it's
a
pretty
big
project
and
we
have
a
lot
to
share
with
you
and
maureen
does
need
access.
I
think
to
share
the
slide
deck
so
jean.
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
that
and
and
we
have
lots
of
other
information.
So
as
you
ask
questions,
we've
got
lots
of
backup
slides,
so
we're
prepared
so
we'll
do
the
best
with
our
15
minutes
and
then
be
ready
for
more
questions.
Perfect.
D
Q
Great
well,
thank
you
we're
very
pleased
to
be
here
tonight.
It
has
been
a
long
journey
and
many
people
have
been
involved.
Hopefully
you'll
hear
from
some
of
them
tonight
and
thank
you
planning
board
for
your
time
and
hopefully,
what
will
be
a
productive
evening.
Welcome
board
member
boone
to
the
planning
board.
It's
a
wonderful
privilege
to
serve
on
the
planning
board.
I
did
it
several
years
ago
and
it
was
a
great
opportunity,
so
we're
pleased
to
be
here
tonight
and
share
the
design
and
community
driven
design
process
with
you,
as
elaine
mentioned.
Q
Q
Next
slide,
as
elaine
described,
this
site
is
located
prominently
in
the
university
hill
neighborhood
next
slide
and
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
and
chris
years
the
lead
architect
did
was
spend
time
in
carnegie
library
really
trying
to
understand
all
of
the
complexity
and
history
and
building
nuances.
There's
been
a
lot
of
change.
There's
a
lot
of
historical
essences
in
this
building
area,
and
so
we
really
wanted
to
try
and
define
it,
but
we
realized
we
couldn't
there's
so
much
character
and
so
many
different
types
of
buildings.
Q
Q
Q
So
in
terms
of
specifically
who
we
met
with
in
the
neighborhood,
we
met
with
cu
students,
including
the
kappa
kappa
gamma
sorority
and
their
representation.
Many
times
over
the
last
year
we
met
with
the
cu
real
estate
group,
cu,
environmental
design.
We
had
a
student-led
environmental
design
chart
with
students
and
worked
with
them
on
different
aspects
of
the
project
and
brought
some
of
the
history
to
them,
as
well
with
some
of
the
business
owners
and
and
entrepreneurs
who've
been
on
this
in
this
location.
Q
For
years,
we've
also
worked
very
closely
with
the
university
hill
neighborhood
association
who's
been
advocating
for
this
project,
and
so
they've
provided
design
feedback,
as
well
as
feedback
on
the
access
and
circulation
and
outdoor
spaces.
We've
worked
very
closely
with
ucampc
and,
as
I
mentioned,
we
had
a
vibe
of
the
hill
listening
session,
where
we
just
went
out
to
all
the
business
owners
and
long-timers
on
the
hill
and
just
let
them
share
their
stories
and
their
ideas,
and
we
incorporated
that
into
the
project
next
slide,
specifically
at
planning
board
last
year.
Q
These
were
the
types
of
issues
that
we
were
advised
to
pay
close
attention
to,
and
as
elaine
mentioned,
you
know,
we've
been
working
on
those
so
you'll
hopefully
see
that
in
the
refinement
of
the
architecture
and
site
design
next
slide
in
city
council.
We
also
had
a
very
robust
discussion
about
the
buildings
and
really
articulating
them
and
creating
not
large,
stacked
rectangles,
but
really
articulated
buildings
with
lots
of
layers.
Q
Q
We
also
talked
about
the
views
through
the
site
and
how
to
open
it
up
more
and
create
more
open
space
and
we've
included
community
members
in
the
design
which
we
did
and
created
the
mixed
use
aspect
and
getting
trying
to
avoid
the
feeling
of
too
much
concrete,
and
we
had
the
advantage
of
not
having
a
parking
garage
under
our
site.
So
we
were
able
to
really
bolster
the
landscaping
throughout
the
site
and
put
lots
of
big
trees,
including
preserving
some
existing
trees
along
the
public
rights
of
way.
Q
Next
slide
from
a
university
hill
neighborhood
association,
we
did
receive
a
lot
of
support
but
wanted
to
address
the
pedestrian
activity,
as
well
as
connectivity
to
the
hill
proper
to
the
south
and
utilizing
materials
that
we
can
find
in
the
neighborhood
as
inspiration,
but
not
necessarily
matching
and
engaging
the
neighborhood
to
find
out
how
we
can
make
a
mixed
use.
Project
successful.
Q
You
can't
see
we're
comfortable
with
the
building
mass
and
scale
and
are
excited
for
this
upgrade
for
the
neighborhood.
They
wanted
neighborhood
scale,
retail,
which
we've
included
along
broadway
and
really
looking
at
alley,
enhancement
and
management
and
working
closely
with
yujid
to
really
make
the
alleys
safe
and
welcoming
and
have
good
maintenance
programs.
Q
Vibe
of
the
hill
was
really
interesting
to
talk
about.
How
do
we
bring
long-term
and
year-round
activity
to
the
site
and
kind
of
balance,
the
very
seasonal
activity?
That's
there
now
and
creating
alternatives,
and
not
not
more
taco
joints
but
healthy
restaurants
and
bringing
back
the
return
of
the
music
scene.
Q
So
right
away,
we
separated
the
building
more
than
the
existing
building
and
we
started
designing
a
12
foot
wall
to
recreate
the
separation
that
is
provided
by
the
current
building.
We
talked
about
construction
impacts,
and
so
we
addressed
those
in
our
use
review
through
the
management
plan
and
alley
management
plan.
We
talked
about
parking
and
how
we
would
manage
that
and
hotel
operations
and
maintenance
and
increasing
safety
in
the
area
was
a
very
large
priority.
Q
We
also
talked
about
so
specifically.
What
we
did
was
create
an
alley
management
plan
to
talk
about
hotel
loading
and
service.
We
designed
this
wall
and
asked
for
a
variance
which
was
supported
by
staff
to
go
to
12
feet,
which
is
currently
seven
feet
allowed.
We
separated
the
buildings,
we
protected
the
parking
and
service
areas.
Q
Community
benefits
we
have
through
the
prior
agreement
on
the
sale
of
the
land,
we've
already
committed,
200
000
in
tenant,
relocation
for
the
businesses
and
some
of
those
businesses
have
started
to
move
with
the
help
of
community
vitality
and
identifying
places
to
move
into
the
hill.
There's
very
there's
a
high
level
of
vacancy
a
lot
of
community
open
space
and
plazas
community
art,
transportation,
revitalization
and
student
access
and
opportunities
next
slide.
A
A
I
want
to
just
mention
four
general
objectives
that
have
driven
the
design
of
this
project
from
day
one,
and
these
objectives
came
from
the
the
development
team
and
from
the
neighborhood
from
all
the
input
that
we've
received
over
time.
They
are
that
this
should
be
a
vibrant
mixes
development
that
this
needs
to
be
integrated
into
the
the
hill,
be
a
comfortable
fit
with
the
neighborhood
and
the
community.
A
The
existing
conditions
on
the
side
and
then
the
building
that
we're
proposing
it's
important
to
recognize
that
many
members
of
the
community
have
been
involved
in
the
evolution
of
this
project
over
the
last
four
years.
I
think,
maybe
more
than
four
years,
and
we
thank
them
for
their
contributions
tonight.
You
are
reviewing
and
discussing
the
results
of
the
efforts
not
of
just
of
the
development
team,
but
of
many,
and
I
have
to
say
that
this
has
been
a
fun
and
very
rewarding
process
and
speaking
of
many,
this
development
is
for
everybody.
A
A
R
Thank
you
chris,
so
you
can
see
here
compared
to
the
2020
concept,
rendering
shown
on
top
how
the
design
has
matured
and
developed.
However,
the
core
strategies
have
really
remained
intact
and
you
can
see
on
the
slide,
the
feedback
that
we
received
from
dab
and
how
we've
refined
and
developed
the
massing
and
helped
communicate
the
the
change
in
materiality
of
this
area,
where
you
have
that
lantern
of
retail
v
projecting
out.
R
R
So,
as
we've
been
designing
the
project,
we
focused
on
making
sure
that
it's
contextual
for
the
hill
and
keeping
that
edgy
and
authentic
vibe
you
can
go
to
the
next
one
speed
through
these.
The
community
plazas
the
buildings
define
these
these
plazas
and
we're
really
wanting
to
make
sure
that
they
become
a
community
benefit.
R
R
R
I
just
have
a
couple
more
and
then
we
have
our
fly
through.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
cu
conference
center,
that's
caddy
corner
to
our
site
and
the
permeability
through
our
site
and
how
it
relates
to
the
future
activated
alley
behind
13th
street,
and
then
this
is
our
last
slide
before
the
fly-through.
So
just
taking
a
peek
at
the
site,
mobility.
R
You
can
see
here
the
on-site
delivery
turnaround
for
delivery
trucks
to
help
limit
the
traffic,
that's
all
along
the
alley
and
then
there's
also
standard
parking
along
pleasant.
That
would
that
will
be
utilized
for
retail
loading
zones,
and
we
also
wanted
to
maintain
that
permeability
and
ferocity
through
the
site.
R
R
R
R
D
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
amy,
chris
and
danica
for
that
presentation.
I
know.
15
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
with
something
this
size,
so
I'm
sure
that
the
questions
will
help
you
to
add
a
few
details
that
you
may
have
not
been
able
to.
So,
let's
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
questions
from
planning
board.
Who
would
like
to
start.
K
E
Q
From
our
presentation
help
us
talk
through
this.
Thank
you.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
been
working
with
them
and
identified
some
very
key
design,
attributes
that
we
have
brought
through
the
project,
including
the
wall
and
the
sidewalk
and
the
size
of
the
windows
and
a
lot
of
privacy
and
security
type
issues
as
well
as
separation
of
the
building
et
cetera.
Q
So
we
have
been
working
with
their
representative
for
the
last
year
and
then
on.
I
think,
a
couple
days
ago,
we
received
the
additional
email
that
you
received
asking
for
these
ten
types
of
conditions,
and
so
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
just
quickly
go
through
those
and
just
explain
where
we
are
at
with
discussing
those
with
the
applicant
and
I'd
like
to
say,
we've
agreed
to
all
of
them.
What's
what's
needs
to
be
worked
out.
Q
So
in
terms
of
additional
traffic
into
the
ally,
there's
concern
about
the
service
vehicles
that
will
be
entering
our
site
from
the
alley
and
any
conflicts
that
may
arise.
So
we
did
address
this
in
our
management
plan
or
alley
management
plan.
Based
on
our
traffic
engineer,
we
estimate
two
vehicles
per
day,
we'll
be
entering
our
garage
from
that
alley.
So
it's
a
very
small
amount
of
traffic.
The
other
trip
generation
will
happen
along
pleasant
and
into
our
garage.
So
it's
just
two
service
tracks.
Q
We've
designed
the
service
vehicles
to
enter
our
building
inside
the
service
delivery
and
have
turnaround,
and
so
we
would
agree
to
any
further
coordination
timing
of
deliveries
et
cetera,
and
we
thought
that
best
be
provided
in
a
memorandum
of
understanding
between
us
and
the
property
owner.
So
we've
prepared
a
draft
of
that
mou
and
presented
that
and
we've
been
discussing
it
over
the
last
two
days
in
terms
of
the
alley
management
plan
again.
So
there
was
some
maintenance
requests
and
some
other
more
management
requests
for
that
ali.
Q
We
will
agree
to
everything
that
was
requested.
The
only
thing
we
cannot
agree
to
is
maintenance
of
the
alley.
It
is
a
public
right-of-way
and
our
understanding
is
that
the
private
property
owners
aren't
able
to
maintain
that.
But
we
certainly
would
work
to
advocate
with
the
city
and
eugene
to
increase
maintenance
in
the
alley
and
help
you
know
support
whatever
way
we
can
in
terms
of
the
hot
tub
amenity.
We
had
designed
that
to
really
limit
line
of
sight
into
their
property
in
their
building
and
and
resident
rooms.
Q
But
they've
asked
for
a
revised
layout
and
we've
agreed
to
that
and
we'd
be
happy
to
condition
that
on
our
approval,
so
in
terms
of
flipping
the
hot
tub
and
moving
it
away
from
their
side
and
providing
the
screening
so
we're
happy
to,
and
that
seems
like
a
reasonable
condition
of
approval,
because
it's
something
we
can
address
in
our
site
design
windows.
On
the
west
side,
they
were
asking
for
smaller
windows
and
sill
height
and
not
florida
all
the
way
down
to
the
floor
windows.
Q
We
believe
we've
addressed
that
in
our
existing
site
plan
and
so
we'd
be
happy
to
go
through
how
what
we've
done
the
buildings
are.
Not
operable
they're
smaller
than
the
rest
of
the
building,
and
they
do
not
go
to
the
ground
floor,
but
certainly,
if
that
doesn't
meet
this
the
standard
we
that
can
be
a
condition
of
approval.
I
think
we
just
need
would
need
time
to
go
through
that
with
them
and
explain
what
what's
been
done
and
if
it
needs
more
revision.
We're
happy
to
do
that.
Q
The
privacy
wall-
and
there
is
additional
design
requested
on
that.
We
designed
a
12-foot
cm
cmu
wall
at
a
cost
of
about
150
000
and
and
have
offered
that
they
can
design
their
side
of
the
wall
and
clad
it
in
whatever
materials,
we're
happy
to
continue
discussing
the
design
of
that
wall.
But
that
feels
like
again
a
maybe
a
private
property
discussion
between
us
and
them,
as
well
as
the
maintenance
of
that
wall
was
a
request,
and
so
we're
happy
to
agree
to
that
and
figure
that
out.
Q
There
was
another
request
for
screening:
protection
from
site
smells
in
vermin.
We
believe
that's
addressed
by
the
building
code,
but
if
there's
additional
concerns
beyond
what
we
have
to
do
by
building
code,
we're
happy
to
again
do
that
in
a
memorandum
of
understanding
with
our
neighbors
or
if
the
city
thinks
it
needs
to
be
a
condition.
That's
fine
as
well
a
hotel
management
plan
and
we
are
creating
that
sidewalk.
There's
some
questions
about
additional
lighting
and
security.
Q
We
again
are
happy
to
work
with
them
on
how
to
maintain
that
and
and
make
sure
that
it's
adequately
lit
we're
also
bound
by
the
lighting
standards
and
not
allowed
to
have
light
spill
over,
and
I
believe
we
have
a
little
light
spillover
just
to
keep
that
safe.
But
there's
only
so
much.
You
know
we
can
do
by
code,
and
then
we
think
an
mou
and
a
use
agreement
with
an
easement
would
also
help
in
making
sure
that
they
have
access
and
continued
access
to
that
sidewalk
in
the
future.
Q
A
third
party
geotech
monitoring
their
building
during
the
construction
of
ours,
and
we
have
already
agreed
to
hire
a
third
party
geotech
pay
for
it
and
take
any
recommendations
that
are
identified
by
that
geotechnical
professional
and
implement
them
and
then
provide
ongoing
review
of
that
throughout
the
construction
process.
So
we
did
agree
to
that
in
writing
in
our
in
our
narrative
and
in
our
use
agreement
if
there
needs
to
be
additional
agreement,
we're
happy
to
provide
that
with
that.
Q
Whatever
that
looks
like
the
swamp
cooler
and
protecting
that
from
dust
and
debris
during
construction,
absolutely
we'll
we'll
do
that
and
we
believe
it
is
addressed
in
the
building
code
in
state
regs.
But
again
if
additional
protection
is
desired.
We're
happy
to
agree
to
that
in
the
memorandum
of
understanding
that
we've
prepared-
and
I
hope
that
helps
answer
your
question.
D
G
Yeah
I
respond
to
that.
If
so
right
now,
the
project
you're
reviewing
is
the
plans
that
were
provided,
and
I
think
what
danica
is
proposing
and
was
expanding
his
conditions
of
approval.
That
are
that
that
the
applicant
is
fine
with-
and
I
think
some
of
what's
requested
is
not
really
subject
to
site
review
criteria,
and
but
some
of
it
are
some
of
it
is
relevant
to
your
review
and
some
of
it
is
relevant
to
your
user
review.
And
if
you
want
to
impose
conditions
of
approval,
then
we
should.
G
D
Okay,
okay
yeah.
I
saw
at
least
three
on
that
chart
that
we
may
want
to
consider,
and
of
course
we
still
will
be
hearing
public
comments
before
we
start
to
do
that
so
yeah.
If
we
can
start
to
get
something
together,
that
would
be
useful.
Thank
you,
john.
Did
you
have
anything
to
add
about
that
one
or.
K
It
looks
to
me,
like
it's,
not
very
direct
it
sort
of
zigs
along
the
building
and
then
then
goes
to
the
west
and
then
to
the
south
again
to
get
to
pleasant
street.
If
I
am
reading
the
the
plans
correctly
and
I'm
just
wondering
why
there
can't
be
just
a
straight
path:
the
shortest
possible
distance
to
pleasant
street
from
the
alley.
Q
That's
a
great
question
and
we
wish
that
was
in
our
power
to
provide.
There
is
another
property
owner
who
owns
a
very
small
parking
lot
where
that's
at
and
if
we
want
to
pull
up
a
diagram,
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
but
there's
a
a
very
small
parking
lot,
and
so
we
have
to
go
around
that
and
stay
on
our
property
in
order
to
dedicate
or
to
create
this
pathway.
And
so
you
can
see
here,
there's
it
says:
adjacent
property
right
below
the
transformer.
L
Q
No
up
to
the
right,
yeah
right
there,
so
that's
an
another
property
owner.
That's
not
party
to
this
application,
it's
not
kappa,
and
so
what
we
have
to
do
is
bring
the
sidewalk
down
the
public
right
away
and
then
wrap
around
our
building,
as
you
can
see
right
below
the
adjacent
property.
So
we,
while
we
would
love
to
cross
the
property,
we
cannot
do
it
and
I
think
historically,
that's
the
path
that
they've
used,
but
we
don't
have
legal
rights
to
cross
his
property.
Q
Q
I
Thank
you.
I
have
a
a
design,
design,
two
design
questions
and
a
parking
question.
So
I'll
start
with
the
design
questions
and
I'm
the
first
has
to
do
with
that
pinch
to
the
permeability
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
discuss
what
other
than
the
cladding
from,
I
think
must
have
been
a
blank
wall
to
glass
that
has
changed
and
whether
I
just
sort
of
it
was
very
hard
to
tell
from
the
flat
prince
what
what
that
actually
looks
like.
R
R
Our
best,
so
this
image
in
the
top
right
shows
that
permeability
through
the
site,
so
some
of
the
changes
that
we
made
in
response
to
feedback
that
we
got
from
the
dab,
presentation
and
review
was
that
this
portion
of
the
site
felt
a
little
pinched.
So
some
of
the
pieces
that
we
adjusted
in
response
to
dab's
comments
were
the
meeting
b,
which
is
that
lantern
overhead
is
just
in
the
top
right
of
that
image.
We've
moved
that
whole
mass
forward
or
to
the
north
by
a
couple
feet
to
help
to
help.
R
I
R
I
Thank
you,
that's
helpful
and
I'll
look
to
see
if
someone
puts
that
number
up
and
then
the
other
design
question
is
about
those
the
big
blank
walls,
and
I
know
that
the
north
wall
on
building
retail
a,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
something
some
some
piece
of
art.
What
about
the
other
big
blank
walls?
What
are
you
planning
there?
These.
R
R
D
J
Follow
up
to
sarah's
point
on
the
a
variant
on
her
question
about
the
art
and
the
walls.
What
is
the
relationship
and
the
process
and
structure
with
the
mocha,
and
what
could
there
be
a
scenario
that
those
talks
break
down
and
get
nothing
or
that
you
know?
Is
there
a
contractual
relationship
and
apologies
if
it
was
covered
elsewhere?.
A
There
will
be
something
on
the
wall
that
we've
been
talking
about,
that's
been
determined
and
it
was
a
long
discussion
with
dab,
actually
and
and
a
very
interesting
discussion,
because
previously
we
had
proposed,
maybe
more,
and
I
think
what
we
realized
and
they
realized
was
that
we
were.
It
was
too
much.
It
was
just
too
much
and
you
know
it's
like
everything
else.
It
can
be
too
much
of
one
thing,
so
we
want
to
focus
on
this
wall
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
them
to
determine
what
it
will
be.
A
A
So
it's
a
pro,
it's
a
work
in
progress,
and
it
said
you
know
it's:
it's
unique
to
be
able
to
to
work
with
a
local
contemporary
art
museum
to
to
curate
the
art.
This
is
not
normal
with
hotels,
and
we
all
know
that,
because
we've
been
in
a
lot
of
hotels
where
the
arts
aren't
has
no
relationship
at
all
to
the
community.
In
this
case,
that
will
be
the
exception.
A
J
So
there
is
no
firm
relationship,
and
I
mean
chris
you're
in
a
unique
position
to
understand
this,
because
I
still
break
out
knives
thinking
where's
our
movie
theater
at
pearl
west.
That
was
something
that
may
even
have
been
more
sad
and
still
didn't
happen,
and
so
I
I
I,
when
people
bring
up
well,
they'll,
be
community
gardens
and
say
well
great
who's
going
to
do
the
community
garden.
J
J
A
Q
Contractual
relationship,
I
think,
the
relief,
the
brick
if
I'm
not
incorrect,
is
more
of
an
architectural
design
that
will
be
in
the
building
and
the
the
art
is
more
about
what
interior
art
are
we
putting
on
the
walls
and
how
does
it
integrate
with
our
interior
designer
who
we're
working
with
out
of
san
francisco
and
the
the
hotel
you
know,
so
I
I
believe
the
brick
will
be
happening.
It's
it's
a.
Q
We
decided,
not,
I
believe,
not
to
do
a
big
mural,
because
a
lot
of
feedback
we
were
getting
was
that
may
be
dated
by
the
time
we
put
a
big
painting
on
the
side,
and
so
we
really
opted
for
that.
Sculptural
brick,
which
I
believe
is
is
in
our
design.
I
mean
it
just
hasn't
been
designed
yet,
but
I
believe
it
it's.
So
if
you
look
on
the
left,
that's
what
will
be
on
the
outside
of
the
building.
J
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
do
agree
with
you
on
murals
can
be
dated
and
a
giant
statement
mural
like
that
could
be
reaching
look
at
our
artistic
project
and
I
love
the
idea
of
curating.
The
art
inside
the
bowl
of
commons
did
a
nice
job
with
art.
I
have
no
doubt
I
think
vmoka
is
an
awesome
partnership
and
an
idea.
I
just
wanted
to
dig
a
bit.
So
thank
you.
D
H
Yeah
my
questions
were
kind
of
zeroing
back
to
the
original
question
that
I
had.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
an
appropriate
time
to
talk
about
it,
but
I
wanted
to
understand
specifically
a
few
things
around
parking
and
circulation
around
the
parking.
So
I
understand
there
are
58
spots
that
look
like
it's
double
stacked
underneath
or
a
portion
of
that
underneath
the
hotel.
Q
I
can
I
can
take
part
of
that
so
there's
a
valet
management
plan
in
our
project,
our
very
dense
project
review.
So
I,
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
review
that
that
really
does
talk
about
exact
timing
and
every
car
is
a
valet
managed
car
that
people
don't.
We
are
not
allowing
customers
to
park
their
own
cars
and
so
there's
a
very
precise
timing
on
how
long
they
can
linger
at
the
curb
when
they
go
into
the
garage
and
there's
a
24-hour
valet
service
to
manage
that.
Q
We
also
talked
about
where
the
cars
go.
If
we
have
overflow
parking
so
there's
a
parking
management
plan
on
top
of
the
valet
plan
that
that
talks
about
where
those
cars
will
end
up
in
the
city
system
or
the
university
system.
In
the
case
that
we
have
over
59
cars
58,
I
believe-
and
also
if
somebody
shows
up
in
a
u-haul
or
like
you
know
their
camper
van,
you
know
crossing
the
country
and
we
can't
fit
it
in
the
stacking
system.
We
have
a
plan
for
where
again
that
will
be
circulated
into
the
system.
Q
So
I'm
happy
to
get
more
details
on
that,
but
that
was
definitely
a
big
concern
of
the
city's
transportation
division
because
they
really
don't
want
us
to
stack
cars
into
broadway,
and
so
that's
very,
very
important.
So
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
manage
that.
In
addition,
we
do
have
some
street
spaces
and
there
will
be
two
delivery
spaces
on
pleasant
that
will
be
delivery
zone
from
7
30
to
10
30
a.m.
Q
We
imagine
a
lot
of
our
deliveries
will
occur
in
those
spaces,
especially
for
the
retail
and
restaurant,
and
that
will
also
take
the
pressure
off
the
alley
and
then
those
spaces
will
be
converted
back
to
city
spaces
once
that
10
30
pm
at
10
30
a.m
is
off
sorry,
I'm
getting
a
note.
I
have.
I
made
a
mistake
in
what
I
said,
but
so
those
two
parking
spaces
will
then
convert
to
the
city
system.
So
then
the
city
generates
income
off
of
them
in
the
ujid
parking.
Q
Q
H
Q
No
hotel
shuttle-
I
don't
believe
but-
and
I
correct
my
wrong-
and
I
realize
you
just
got
this
project
probably
yesterday,
so
I
I'm
not
trying
to
say
like
there's
just
so
much.
I
can't
even
imagine
the
shoes
you're
in
to
try
and
read
all
these
documents.
So
I
don't
believe
we
have
a
shuttle.
We
are
doing
some
bikes
and
I
don't
know.
I
think
our
tdm
has
some
other
options,
for
you
know
really
managing
the
transit
in
the
area.
I
can
look
that
up
as
well.
K
Yeah
a
couple
questions
one
is
that
I
noticed
that
as
a
as
a
response
to
the
dav
discussion
of
of
the
lantern
that
was
in
in
the
square
there.
I
see
that
the
difference
between
the
original
proposal
and
now
is
they
just
expanded
the
ground
floor
into
the
into
the
public,
plaza
and
diminished.
The
public
space,
I
presume
for
some
sort
of
commercial
purpose,
is
that
correct.
R
R
So
in
the
image
on
the
top,
you
can
see
the
there's
two
step
backs
and
then
the
massing
above
and
that's
something
that
we've
cleaned
up
in
the
in
the
current
design,
and
so
that
refinement
is
not
in
response
to
the
retail
square
footage
but
more
in
terms
of
the
massing
language
and
not
having
it
too
busy.
So
that
was
part
of
the
dab
discussion,
but
we
we
did
not
pull
the
the
retail
out
into
the
public
space.
K
R
I
I
would
disagree.
I
think
that
we're
prioritizing
the
plaza
in
all
of
our
design
conversations.
So
when,
when
we
made
that
shift,
we
were
wanting
to
make
sure
that
the
the
plaza
space
and
outdoor
of
the
retail
and
how
it
communicates
to
the
plaza
is
successful.
And
so
we
we
got
rid
of
that
second
jog
in
in
the
in
the
massing.
Q
And
the
lower
plaza
did
get
larger
in
that
change,
so
it
did
get
increased
in
size.
We
can
try,
and
so
we
removed
retail
space
and
actually
made
the
plaza
larger
in
that
in
that
shift
after
dab.
So
we
can
try
and
pull
up
that
drawing
before
dab
and
now
and
specifically
this
kind
of
bird's
eye
view
and
look
at
that.
If
that's
helpful.
K
Well,
meanwhile,
I
have
a
another
question
also,
and
that
is
what
sort
of
elevations
you
have
of
the
west
exposure,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
how
that
is
going
to
look
for,
especially
given
the
proposal
to
have
smaller
windows
as
a
consequence
of
your
discussions
with
the
sorority
and
the
my
concern
is
that
we
don't
have
it
look
like
a
berlin
wall
going
such
a
long
distance
along
the
west
side.
There.
R
Right,
that's
a
great
question
so
we'll
get
to
that
in
a
second
just
wanted
to
close
the
loop
on
the
the
plan
for
the
retail.
So
you
can
see
the
evolution
of
the
design
in
these
three
plans.
So
the
sketch
on
the
left
is
an
early
preliminary
sketch.
The
concept
plan
is
in
the
middle
and
you
can
see
that
that
bump
out
in
the
retail
space
in
the
middle
plan
and
then
the
plan
on
the
right
is
our
current
plan
and
you
can
see
how
the
the
lower
plaza
was
not
reduced
in
size.
R
K
R
D
R
R
So
the
the
windows
in
in
the
back
of
the
property
are
slightly
smaller
than
the
others
again
in
response
to
reducing
the
size
of
the
windows
to
our
adjacent
neighbors.
So,
though,
the
windows
in
in
the
gray
here
that
you
see
are
five
by
seven,
with
an
18
inch
sill
compared
to
the
7x7.
That's
more
typical
on
the
front
of
the
elevation.
R
K
R
R
And
that
falls
into
the
same
conversation
that
we
had
with
dab
and
you
put
a
bunch
of
architects
in
a
room
talking
about
design.
The
conversation
went
on
for
a
while,
and
there
were
lots
of
opinions.
But
again,
I
think
where
we
landed
was
being
more
selective
in
which
faces
we
have
the
artistic
language,
and
it
seemed
to
make
more
sense
on
that
east
elevation.
D
Are
we
okay
with
that
for
now
john
yeah?
Thank
you
great.
Then
I'll
just
ask
again
going
back
to
city
council's
questions
when
they
called
this
up.
There
was
con
some
discussion
about
the
size
of
the
commercial
spaces
that
they
accommodate
smaller
businesses
and
I
notice
when
we
look
at
the
floor
plans.
It's
not
clear
to
me.
Is
there
some
flexibility
around?
R
Yes,
I
I'll
take
that
one
too,
so
I
think
our
our
plan
is
to
design
as
much
flexibility
into
the
retail
spaces
as
possible.
So
I
think
what
what
we
have
shown
is
is
one
scenario
where
they
are
a
little
larger,
but,
ideally
yes,
it
would.
The
design
would
be
flexible
to
be
able
to
accommodate
a
larger
number
of
smaller
retailers.
Q
Q
D
I
I
just
want
to
actually
follow
up
david
on
the
question
you
just
asked,
which
has
to
do
with.
Is
there
ever
a
possibility
that
the
two
uses
would
be
separated
over
time?
I
mean
I
realize
this
is
being
built
as
one
site,
but
might
there
be
a
time
in
the
future
when
the
retail
space,
the
east
building,
is
sold
off
as
a
separate
building
or
will
will
these
always
be,
or
at
least
into
the
foreseeable
future,
connected.
Q
Well,
I
I
know
dan's
on
the
call
as
well,
but
I
think
you
know
the
the
property
is
all
one
lot.
We
can't
subdivide
anything.
The
the
restaurant
space
will
probably
be
very
connected
to
the
hotel,
also
due
to
liquor,
licensing
and
other
things,
so
they
there's
a
really
strong
connection
and
that
we
have
the
tunnel
connecting
the
buildings
underground.
So
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
anything
will
be
sold
off.
I
think
it
will
be
there's
dan
knotting.
T
I
Q
D
All
right,
good
questions,
everyone,
any
anything
else
we
should
cover.
I
guess
I'll
just
ask.
I
know
that
we
did
talk
there
were
there
was
some
some
conversation
about
trying
to
assist
some
of
the
maybe
existing
businesses
in
the
transition
plan,
and
I
didn't
see
that
at
in
the
site
review
did
did
that,
go
forward
at
all
any
kind
of
assistance
for
businesses
that
are
being
relocated
in
any
way
that
maybe
attract
some
of
them
back.
Q
Yeah
sure
I
the
so
there's
200
000
already
allocated
in
relocation.
I
believe
that
sushi
bentarita
and
I
sarah's
probably
on
the
call
she
can
probably
speak
more
specifically,
I
believe
one
business
has
already
take.
You
know
been
working
with
her
and
she
is
working
with
all
the
other
businesses
there's
quite
a
bit
of
vacancy
on
the
hill,
so
most
likely
they
would
move
into.
One
of
those
other
spaces
then
have
to
they're
welcome
to
come
back,
but
it's
hard
to
move
twice,
and
so
I
don't
know
sarah.
U
Yeah,
where
we're
at
right
now
is
the
city
has
been
sending
periodic
updates
to
all
of
the
impacted
tenants,
as
we
get
notifications
as
far
as
the
timing
and
any
tenants
that
are
interested
can
contact
us
about
available
spaces
throughout
the
city
that
may
meet
their
needs.
But
at
this
point
we're
not
encouraging
anyone
to
move.
U
I
believe
the
landlord
is
on
this
call
and
we
just
try
to
keep
letting
people
know
that
they
can
reach
out
to
the
landlord
and
discuss
when
they
can
move
out
what
what
timing
is
optimal
and
then
we
try
to
connect
them
to
available
spaces
when
that
timing
arises.
So
we're
just
trying
to
keep
in
constant
contact
and
let
them
know
that
we
really
do
wish
to
keep
them
in
boulder
and
we're
here
to
support
them.
D
D
L
L
B
B
D
D
B
Great,
I
was
going
to
start
off
with
casey
schneider
casey
is
speaking
to
the
university
hill,
a
group
and
then
I'm
sorry,
I'm
missing
the
acronyms
right
at
the
moment
and
then
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
list
and
again,
as
david
mentioned,
as
we
said
before,
if
you
could,
please
put
a
full
name
to
display
in
the
zoom
or
send
me
your
name.
That
would
be
great
and
okay
casey.
V
V
This
is
the
opportunity
for
to
support
a
catalyst
project
that
will
help
revitalize
the
hill,
so
that
again
can
be
a
community
asset
and
serve
more
people
in
the
city
of
boulder,
primarily
the
neighborhood
surrounding
it,
where
it
should
be.
A
vital
neighborhood,
the
developers
worked
very
hard
to
address
the
issues
of
the
neighbors
and
the
commercial
district,
and
we
feel
a
great
deal
support
for
that.
V
The
hotel
site
tenants
was
an
issue
that
was
brought
up.
I
can
speak
personally
because
I
have
already
placed
two
tenants
from
the
hotel
site
into
the
hilltop
building
on
the
corner
of
13th
and
college,
and
we
have
two
additional
tenants
that
we've
been
working
with
on
vacancies
from
the
hotel
site,
so
we're
hoping
to
actually
move
additional
tenants
into
the
vacant
spaces
on
the
hill.
V
So
that's
my
that's
my
spiel
on
my
personal
side
and
then,
as
I
get
into
this,
this
is
more
coming
from
the
ucamc
board
as
I'm
speaking
on
their
behalf
tonight,
but
we
have
a
couple
of
ideas
that
we
wanted
to
pass
along.
One
being
that
we
feel
that
the
retail
footprint
of
the
hotel
site
doesn't
need
to
be
excessively
large.
We
would
like
to
help
concentrate
the
retail
into
the
historic's
core
and
direct
it
into
the
historic
core.
V
B
C
B
W
My
name
is
margaret
savage
and
I'm
the
chapter
president
of
kappa,
kappa
gamma
here
in
boulder
as
someone
who
lives
in
the
house
currently
and
will
be
living
in
the
house
again
next
year.
One
of
my
main
concerns
and
a
concern
of
other
kappa
girls
in
regard
to
this
hotel
project
is
the
privacy
of
our
members.
W
W
Personally,
I
keep
my
blinds
open,
almost
all
the
time
to
let
in
natural
light,
but
the
privacy
of
my
bedroom
and
other
girls
bedrooms
would
be
violated
if
someone
staying
at
the
hotel
could
see
right
in.
Furthermore,
girls
who
are
out
on
any
of
our
patios
would
be
exposed
to
residents
in
the
hotel.
W
I
and
other
members
of
kappa
enjoy
utilizing
our
patios
to
do
homework,
exercise
or
simply
enjoy
the
fresh
air.
A
lack
of
privacy
may
discourage
our
members
to
do
those
things
which
would
be
unfair,
as
this
house
has
been
part
of
this
neighborhood
community
for
over
a
hundred
years.
Although
there
have
been
proposed
hours
of
usage
for
the
hot
tub,
there
are
no
proposed
plans
for
screening
our
side
of
said
hot
tub.
There
are
screening
plans
for
the
broadway
facing
side
and
we
believe
that
we
deserve
the
same
privacy
considerations.
W
W
Our
preferred
outcomes
would
be
moving
the
hot
tub
to
the
other
side
of
the
hotel
so
that
the
hot
tub
would
be
on
the
east
and
the
plantings
and
screenings
on
the
west
and
having
the
windows
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
be
designed
to
minimize
the
ability
of
hotel
guests
to
see
onto
our
property.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
In.
X
Hi,
my
name
is
lyndon
wall
and
I'm
the
house
chair
at
the
kappa,
kappa
gamma
house,
a
concern
I
want
to
express
about
the
hotel
project
on
behalf
of
our
chapter
is
the
safety
of
the
girls
who
live
in.
We
are
extremely
concerned
about
the
valet
situation,
which
would
force
girls
to
park
farther
away
from
the
house
resulting
in
young
women
walking
home
alone
at
night
back
to
our
house.
X
X
X
As
margaret
mentioned,
the
large
windows
along
the
shared
side
of
the
hotel
and
kappa
house
induces
large
safety
concern
of
the
girls
rooms
in
line
with
the
hotel
room
windows.
This
is
not
something
that
is
appropriate,
considering
that
young
women
live
in
this
household
and
have
the
right
to
not
worry
about,
who
could
potentially
be
peering
into
their
room
from
the
hotel.
X
Y
Great
good
evening,
members
of
planning
board,
my
name
is
andrew
schumacher.
I
live
on
7th
street.
I
am,
I
am
a
member
of
the
university
hill,
commercial
area
management,
commission
and
a
member
of
the
city
of
boulder's
hill,
revitalization
working
group,
but
I'm
speaking
in
my
individual
capacity
as
a
resident
of
the
hill
for
over
15
years,
the
neighborhood
and
the
commercial
district
of
the
hill
have
been
in
decline
for
well
over
a
decade.
It's
a
key
reason
that
I
ran
for
city
council
in
2013
was
to
try
to
address
some
of
those
issues.
Y
Y
I
sent
a
video
around
earlier
today
for
those
who
are
able
to
watch
it
that
talks
about
some
of
these
challenges.
One
of
the
solutions
that
the
solution
that
that
that
people
arrived
at
was
obtaining
an
anchor
tenant
in
this
instance.
It's
the
private
hotel
that
you're
looking
at
tonight,
as
well
as
the
cu
conference
center,
which
we
had
discussions
with
cu
and
they
brought
over.
They
had
it
placed
on
arapahoe
and
they
brought
it
over
to
this
location,
so
people
would
get
out
of
cars,
walk
to
the
hill
and
walk
downtown.
Y
Y
This
has
been
a
long
road
and
I
can
hardly
think
of
any
project
in
town
with
this
level
of
support
with
this
broad
set
of
stakeholders.
The
neighbors
want
to
see
this.
The
university
hill
business
district
wants
to
see
this.
The
chamber
wants
to
see
this.
The
university
of
colorado
wants
to
see
this
and,
of
course,
the
city
has
has
been
involved
in
the
project
as
a
participant
as
well.
Y
They
saw
a
tremendous
amount
of
community
input
and
they've
been
extremely
responsive
throughout
the
process,
including
the
the
red,
the
the
fees
that
you've
heard
about
the
ability
for
people
that
use
funds
to
move
which
would
not
have
occurred
had
this
strip
mall
just
been
redeveloped,
which
probably
would
have
happened
in
the
alternative,
we're
very
grateful
as
neighbors
for
their
responsiveness.
This
project
has
been
closely
fly
spec
by
many
people.
I
suspect
you're
going
to
have
some
great
ideas
tonight
as
well.
Y
I
would
just
ask
you
to
keep
in
mind
the
goals
supporting
the
conference
center
driving
the
foot
traffic
up
to
the
historic
retail
core
of
the
hill.
Casey
talked
about
that
and
allowing
the
hotel
to
provide
a
much
needed
source
of
revenue
for
the
district.
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
good
luck
with
your
deliberations.
Z
Z
To
increase
the
negative
impacts
that
already
are
experienced
by
people
using
that
alley,
I
think
you've
gotten
some
photographs
and
the
information
I
sent
as
well
as
from
honolulu
doty
earlier
today,
but
given
what
the
applicant
has
represented
about
the
agreements
that
may
or
may
not
have
been
made
between
with
kappa
and
themselves.
Regarding
some
conditions,
I
wanted
to
address
that
issue
a
little
bit
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
we
have
worked
collaboratively.
Z
Z
Z
It's
not
really
doesn't
really
allow
kappa
to
participate
in
the
phrasing
of
these
conditions,
so
I
guess
I
would
direct
planning
board
to
the
conditions
that
were
identified
and
spelled
out
more
specifically.
On
pages
four
and
five
of
the
writing,
I
provided
and
used
that
as
kappa's
position
on
those
specific
issues.
Z
B
AA
AA
Meanwhile,
I
think
that
the
changes
that
we're
looking
at
here
with
the
hotel
project
are
a
positive
on
the
community.
I
do
have
a
concern
of
that
of
what
is
being
done
to
protect
existing
residents.
I
understand
that
there's
200
thousand
dollars
being
allocated
for
moving.
Our
split
of
that
would
be
a
very
small
amount
and
not
really
enough
to
move
into
a
new
location.
AA
AB
AB
We've
talked
about
a
lot
of
issues
that
we've
tried
to
be
working
through
over
this
past
year
and
we
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
blanket
answers
on
project
issues,
but
we
don't
really
have
specifics
or
guarantees
that
the
issues
caused
by
the
hotel
will
be
solved.
The
hotel
project
does
not
have
an
operating
company
yet,
and
so
we
really
are
hoping
that
we're
asking
you
to
place
strong
limitations
and
requirements
now
to
hold.
AB
Whoever
runs
this
to
be
accountable
today
in
the
future
to
solve
the
problems
that
inevitably,
we
are
going
to
kind
of
shoulder.
Since
we
are
the
you
know,
43
foot
away
neighbor.
At
this
point
we
have
not
seen
real
true
elevations
john.
You
asked
the
same
question.
We
keep
asking.
What
does
the
back
of
the
building?
Look
like?
What
does
it
look
like
from
the
alley?
We
have
seen
nothing
and
even
tonight
it
was
just
barely
a
little
slanted
view
of
what
kind
of
looks
like
the
back
of
a
warehouse.
AB
AB
AB
Even
this
afternoon
I
was
there
and
I
noticed
a
truck
in
the
adjacent
parking
lot,
which
was
making
a
delivery,
because
trucks
do
not
want
to
drive
down
pleasant.
It
is
a
sharp
right
turn
to
get
onto
13th.
It
is
a
super,
narrow
and
sharp
turn
to
get
into
our
pot
hold
alley
to
drive
down
into
this
dead
end.
If
two
trucks
are
coming
head
on,
they
somebody
has
to
back
up
and
that
alley
is
filled
with
pedestrians,
students,
lots
of
people
back
there.
AB
I
think
it's
naive
to
look
at
this
complementary
traffic
pattern
of
the
area
and
think
that
this
is
going
to
work.
I
also
think
that
it's
naive
to
think
that
having
an
alley
plan
with
timed
deliveries
is
going
to
work
who's
going
to
enforce
that.
Not
us
we're
just
going
to
be
the
people
who
can't
get
out
of
our
parking
places
because
there's
a
truck
behind
us,
so
we
would
like
to
ask
you
to
figure
out
a
way
to
enforce
that
to
limit
the
use
when
they
say,
there's
only
two
vehicles
back
there.
AB
AC
AC
We
want
to
reiterate
our
strong
support
for
the
hill
hotel.
The
developer
has
worked
extremely
hard
to
engage
the
hill
neighborhood
from
the
initial
concept
up
through
our
last
meeting,
held
with
our
community
in
november,
they've
been
receptive
to
our
concerns
and
comments
which
are
now
reflected
in
the
designs
submitted.
AC
N
N
Ability
to
meet
our
climate
goals
in
boulder
and-
and
I
saw
a
lot
of
boulder
valley
comp
plan
objectives
for
this
project
that
were
really
very
obtuse
and
not
really
benefited
by
this
project.
No
there's
already
a
conference
center
going
in
across
the
street.
That's
more
than
enough.
This
corridor
is
extremely
congested,
especially
with
the
pattern
of
boulder
there's
only
going
to
all
the
development
in
north
boulder.
N
That's
it
there's
it's!
It's
not
a
good
place
to
centralize
another
huge
hotel
and
it's
sticking
a
hotel
in
the
middle
of
a
depressed
area
and
andrew
shoemaker.
I'm
I'm
sorry,
but
that
is
not
going
to
improve
the
hill.
That's
just
going
to
bring
dollars
to
the
developers
and
to
and
some
to
the
city
of
boulder,
but
it's
never
going
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
its
impacts
and
the
impacts
fees
are
not
nearly
enough.
The
affordable
housing
I
had
airbnb
for
years
and
years,
and
I
did
great
it's
the
cuban
model.
N
You
live
where
you're
at
you
really
experience
it.
You
don't
go
to
a
hotel
and
isolate
yourself,
and
then
these
gals
in
the
sorority
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
At
all,
because
that's
the
whole
function
of
the
hotel
is
to
look
at
the
flatirons
right.
This
place
is
not
supposed
to
be
here.
It's
not
a
good
mix
for
this.
N
The
hotel
space
should
have
a
repurposing
just
like
the
retail
space
should
have
a
repurposing,
and
you
know
what
there's
so
much
repurposing
going
on
right
now.
Art
mart
not
art
mart,
but
the
boulder
arts
and
crafts
co-op
on
the
mall
is
gone.
You
know
the
prime
anchors,
and
these
are
real
anchors,
not
a
hotel.
A
hotel
is
not
an
anchor.
If
I
had
my
video
screen,
you'd
see
my
fingers
going,
it's
all
about
the
money,
that's
what
it's
about,
and
you
know
what
it
is
all
about
the
money.
N
N
N
See
as
far
as
the
windows,
seven
by
seven
or
five
by
seven,
you
know,
what's
the
difference,
you're
looking
out
to
the
flat
irons,
the
sorority
has
a
good
point
there,
except
that
you
know
the
the
revitalization
of
this
area
is
important,
but
this
the
hotel's
not
going
to
revitalize
it.
The
hotel
is
an
exclusive
place
where
people
are
going
to
stay
and
and
georgia.
D
B
AD
That
really
doesn't
seem
like
enough
to
do
much
and
really
that
transitional
time,
whether
we
relocate
or
not,
I
mean
just
having
those
last
couple
months
to
pay
to
the
last
bit
there.
I
just
don't
know
how
that's
supposed
to
function.
It's
already
been
pretty
hard
to
keep
my
business
staffed
with
people
when
they
know
about
what's
happening.
AD
I'm
sure
it'll
become
more
public
news,
as
things
become
more
official,
which
will
make
it
even
harder
for
me
to
maintain
having
people
working
for
me.
So
that's
really
the
primary
concern.
Secondarily,
I
think
you
know,
while
it's
great
to
have
all
the
open
space
and
stuff
and
the
seating
I
am
concerned
about,
like
the
homeless
problem,
there's
definitely
a
lot
of
homeless
people.
That
kind
of
hang
out
in
that
plaza
and
not
sure
that
just
like
building
something
new
is
going
to
do
much
about
that.
B
AE
AE
Above
me,
we
don't
have
central
heat
and
air
here,
so
we
have
to
open
our
windows
for
fresh
air,
and
so
this
wall,
that's
going
in
the
12-foot
wall.
We
appreciate
that
and
I
know
they're
addressing
it,
but
we
really
don't
have
an
idea
what
it's
going
to
look
like.
We
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
be
made
of
if
it's
going
to
help
with
privacy
we're
responsible
for
fixing
it
on
our
end,
which
is
an
expense
that
I
didn't
realize.
AE
But
it's
going
to
be
very
hard.
Our
issue
too,
as
well
as
with
construction
dust
going
on,
we've,
asked
that
that
wall
be
built
first,
so
that
it
kind
of
minimizes
noise
and
some
sort
of
privacy,
and
you
know
we
don't.
We
were
told
when
we,
when
we're
talking
about
dust
and
keeping
our
windows
open,
and
things
like
that.
That
I
was,
I
felt
kind
of
insulted
by
them,
telling
me
that
they
were.
AE
They
were
going
to
address
it
by
having
a
guy
holding
a
hose
every
day
to
minimize
the
dust
and
I'm
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
insulting,
because
I
that's
not
going
to
create
a
solution.
The
swamp
cooler
goes
directly
into
our
kitchen,
so
that
can't
be
running
when
there's
a
lot
of
construction
dust
because
it'll
just
feed
right
into
our
kitchen
as
well
as
our
food.
So
that
is
not
okay.
AE
Here
we
have,
you
know
outside
of
our
of
my
room,
has
been
a
nice
big
excuse
me
patio
that
we
host
a
lot
of
events
on
a
lot
of
fundraisers
and
we're
hoping
that
we
get
back
to
normal,
but
a
lot
of
our
philanthropies
are
held
on
that,
and
so
that
is
going
to
stop,
because,
obviously
we
can't
be
doing
that.
I'm
concerned
about
the
11
dumpsters
that
are
going
to
be
within.
You
know,
50
feet
of
our
home.
Are
we
going
to
be
smelling
garbage
all
the
time?
AE
And
you
know
some
of
those
things
that
are
just
kind
of
issues
that
as
a
neighbor
we're
addressing,
I
obviously
am
very
concerned
about
parking
with
my
girls
they
park
far
enough
away.
I
don't
think
there's
enough
argument
as
to
you
know
what
they're
gonna
do
with
all
the
cars
and
they're
talking
about
bikes
and
they're
talking
about
buses,
but
I
mean
people
nowadays
they
they
they
might
use
a
bike
to
do
a
little
afternoon
thing,
but
they're
not
gonna
bike
around
the
whole
time.
AE
They're
here
I
don't
think
they're
gonna
take
buses
everywhere.
So
I'm
kind
of
concerned
about
that
delivery
is
definitely
an
issue
I
live
here.
I
know
what
the
trucks
are
doing,
going
up
and
down
those
alleyways
and
there's
no
way
that
we
can
prevent
trucks.
You
know
coming
in
and
out
without
some
issues
for
sure-
and
I
know
my
time's
up.
B
D
D
D
Q
Yeah,
I
I
will
take
do
the
best
with
our
three
minutes.
I
just
want
to
address
a
few
key
issues
and
we're
happy
to
show
some
diagrams,
especially
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
but
the
first
was
alley
and
pedestrian
safety.
I
think
you
were.
I
didn't
see
the
pictures
that
were
sent
to
you
today,
but
I
can
imagine
that
they
showed
that
there's
a
lot
going
on
in
the
alley
and
a
lot
of
conflicts.
Q
We
are
hoping
to
resolve
a
lot
of
those
conflicts
and
we
have
designed
this
entire
project
to
take
our
service
vehicles
into
our
site
and
do
the
trash
trash
and
dumpsters
and
deliveries
again.
We
estimate
two
delivery
trucks
a
day,
so
the
reality
is
we'll
probably
be
like.
We
probably
will
have
to
wait
for
the
other
deliveries
that
will
happen
inside
the
alley,
rather
than
others
waiting
for
us.
Q
So
we
are
really
trying
to
improve
that
and
we're
happy
to
work
with
eugene
to
increase
the
maintenance
on
that
alley
or
lighting
certainly
willing
to
advocate.
For
that
and
again,
the
trash
dumpsters
are
mostly
on
our
site.
There
are
trash
dumpsters
in
the
alley.
That
is
a
traditional
use
of
the
alley,
and
so
we
won't
be
increasing
that
impact
from
privacy
and
safety
standpoint.
We
really.
Q
We
have
been
working
very
hard
on
this.
We
took
it
very
seriously
when
we
met
with
the
kappa
representatives
and
the
attorney
and
the
beta
mu
house
representatives
and
we
walked
the
site.
When
we
sat
on
that
patio,
we
recognized
what
a
beautiful
asset
that
was,
and
we
talked
about
this
wall
and
we
proposed
it
because
what
it
does
is
mirror.
Q
So
we're
happy
to
work
with
them
on
that.
But
we
did
think
that
was
a
proposal
to
really
address
the
safety
and
security
concerns.
We
also
reduced
the
window
sizes
on
that
side,
the
hot
tub
you
actually
can't
see
it's
actually
not
even
adjacent
to
their
building,
it's
north
of
the
building
on
their
open
area,
so
the
views
are
not.
There
are
no
views
into
their
building,
but
we
have
also
agreed
to
move
the
hot
tub.
So
we
are
really
trying
to.
You
know
address
all
of
these
concerns.
Q
We
take
them
seriously
and
you
know
we
construction
noise
screening.
All
of
that
will
work
with
the
our
neighbors
parking
and
trash.
I
think
we
have
a
valet
service.
You
know
we
won't
be
using
the
on-site
spaces.
We
will
be
using
other
spaces
that
cu
owns
and
other
parking
lots
and
that's
all
identified
in
our
parking
management
and
valet
management
plan.
Q
Q
We
are
not
the
current
lease
owners
on
the
property,
so
it
you
know,
we
will
follow
the
requirements
or
they
will
follow
the
requirements
that
have
been
created
with
the
sale
of
the
lot
there,
but
I
just
want
to
you
know
we
don't
own
those
leases
right
now
and
we
will
take
over
in
the
future.
So
I
do
encourage
everyone
to
continue
working
with
their
current
lease
owners,
the
family
that
owns
the
property
and
with
sarah
wiebensen,
because
I
do
definitely
empathize
with
change.
Q
And
I
just
want
to
note
also
the
separation
of
the
building
is
60
feet
where
it's
on
the
property
line.
Now
it's
I
think
about
20
feet,
so
we
are
increasing
that
we
are.
We
are
definitely
working
to
make
the
situation
better.
The
sidewalk
can
be
lit.
If
we're.
If
we
don't
exceed
the
lighting
ordinance,
we
will
maintain
the
sidewalk,
I'm
not
sure
about
security
cameras.
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
those
it
would
be
up
to
who
manages
watching
the
cameras.
But
you
know
all
of
these
things
are
important
to
increase
the
safety.
D
Thank
you
yes
and
I
apologize
for
that
oversight.
So
thanks
much
and
I'm
you
we
may,
we
may
have
some
during
deliberations
some
additional
questions,
so
I'm
sure
you'll
be
sticking
around
for
that
part
as
well.
Thank
you.
So,
yes,
as
I
was
about
to
say,
we
have
two
key
issues
that
have
been
put
before
us
they're,
both
pretty
general,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
really
need
to
put
them
up
on
the
screen.
D
So
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
use
those
to
drive
our
discussion
in
key
issue?
One
is:
does
the
project
meet
the
applicable
site
review
criteria
in
the
appropriate
section
of
the
code
in
that
area?
I
think
we
should
talk
through
things
like
the
bvcp
policies
and
the
form
form
modifications
that
are
being
requested
and
then
key
issue.
Two
is
the
use
review
criteria.
D
Is
the
proposed
hotel
use
consistent
with
use
criteria
set
forth
in
the
code
and
in
this
area
we
could
talk
about
the
zoning,
the
consistent
you
can
see
with
zoning
neighborhood
consistency
and
also,
I
think,
that's
where
we'll
talk
about
any
concerns
that
neighbors
have
expressed,
if
that
makes
sense.
So
with
that,
it
served
us
well
to
do
a
negative
poll
before
we
talk
in
detail,
so
just
on
key
issue:
one
is
there
anybody
who
does
not
agree
that
this
project
meets
the
applicable
site,
review
criteria.
D
I
I
Sort
of
drives
some
of
the
mass
and
scale
of
this
development
that
might
otherwise
be
more
in
mass
and
scale
terms
more
oriented
towards
the
neighborhood
and
less
oriented
towards
the
university's
mass
and
scale.
So
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
because
I
do
think
it's
problematic
and
I
think
it's
the
same
thing.
That's
happening
further
north
of
broadway
in
the
alpine
balsam
area,
and
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
very
careful
and
cautious
about
about
that.
L
K
That
was
on
the
corner
of
pleasant
and
broadway,
where
13th,
where,
where
this
is
proposed,
and
in
fact
when
I
was
in
high
school,
I
pumped
gas
at
that
station
and
it
was
a
standard
oil
company
station.
Not
a
phillips
66,
just
just
to
get
it
on
the
record.
But
otherwise.
With
respect
to
this
proposal
that
we're
dealing
with
tonight,
I
think
in
general
it
is
a
benefit
to
the
neighborhood,
but
it's
primarily
a
benefit
to
the
commercial
area
of
the
neighborhood.
K
D
F
I
always
remember
to
unmute
myself:
well
one
of
the
parts
that
concerns
me,
I'm
the
most
really
is
the
building
is
one
thing,
but
I
am
very
concerned
about
the
safety
and
the
well-being
of
the
young.
Ladies,
who
are
going
to
be
the
closest
neighbors
and
having
been
a
young
lady
some
time
ago,
and
I
still
walk
around
dark
places
and
and
just
about
anywhere
I
go.
I
try
to
be
careful.
F
I
I
I
empathize
with
what
may
come,
because
it
will
bring
more
people
and,
in
addition
to
the
privacy
situation,
when
I
think
that
it
will
merit
a
little
bit
more
careful
reconsideration.
If
there
are
some
things
that
can
still
be
done
to
improve
the
situation
for
the
you
know
for
the
sorority
sisters.
I
I
would
really
would
like
to
hear
a
little
more
if
we
can,
at
least
for
us
to
try
to
help
on
that
regard,
because
I
think
it
will
go
a
long
way.
F
It's
obvious
to
me
that
there
is
a
lot
of
support
for
this
project.
It
would
be
a
good
thing
for
the
city,
it's
likely
to
bring
revenue
that
we
need,
and
you
know,
and
it
seems
like
the
relocation
of
the
businesses
are
being
done.
Are
they
not
perfectly?
But
you
know
with
thoughtfulness,
and
we
hope
that
it
will
get
better,
but
the
things
that
I
think
to
me
is
still
kind
of
outstanding.
F
E
E
The
surface
parking
lots
and
just
kind
of
how
it
transforms
that,
especially
on
the
broadway
side.
Also,
you
know
putting
a
hotel
in
there
with
the
cu
conference
center
going
on
across
the
street
in
the
hotel
over
there,
I
think,
is
a
really
natural
fit
and
we
certainly
don't
want
to
be
over
resourced
for
hotels,
but
I
always
kind
of
pay
attention
to
hotel
closures
and
other
things,
and
I
don't
want
to
bring
in
stuff
outside
of
this
hearing,
but
I'm
certainly
always
cognizant
of
that.
E
E
But
you
know,
certainly
my
preference
would
be
to
moving
the
project
forward
and
on
finding
ways
to
address
those
concerns
without
losing
this
opportunity
to
have
a
hotel
there
or
further
extending
the
timeline
too
much
and
yeah.
I
think
that
touches
oh
year-round
activity
was
just
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
call
it
as
well.
Just
the
importance
of
you
know
keeping
activity
on
the
hill.
E
You
know
go
to
a
restaurant
or
pick
something
up,
there's
something
particular
I
want
to
do
and
it
they
shut
down
for
the
summer,
sometimes
because
they
just
can't
afford
to
stay
open
without
that
foot
traffic.
So
I
think
a
hotel
would
bring
a
lot
of
people
in,
especially
with
that
link
across
to
see
you
so
overall,
I
think
it's
a
good
project.
J
Apart
from
some
quibbles,
I
I
don't
mean
to
mean
my
quibbles,
because
I
share
them
with
john
around
some
of
the
facing
of
the
masking
and
the
flat
fronts
and
trying
to
still
understand
architecturally,
what's
going
on
behind
those
and
why
views
would
be
covered
in
brick.
That
way,
no
there's
a
reason.
It
can't
just
be
saving
money
on
windows
when
that's
what
you're
selling
but
sarah's
point.
I
It's
a
concern.
I
have
that
there
are
differences
in
how
the
comp
plan
talks
about
regional
centers
and
how
they
talk
about
neighborhood,
centers
and
I'm
concerned
that,
just
from
a
policy
perspective
that
we,
if
we
don't
both,
acknowledge
and
respect
those
differences,
we
could
end
up
with
more
more
and
more
development
of
this
scale.
I
D
I
If
you
look
at
the
map,
I
mean
this
is
like.
Maybe
it's
a
question
as
much
as
a
comment.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
that's
on
page
eight
in
our
in
the
proposal
and
then
I
can't
remember
what
page
is
on
in
the
boulder
valley.
Comp
plan
cu
is
a
regional
center
and
then
this
particular
area
is
a
neighborhood
center
and
it's
there's
obviously
overlap,
but
I,
but
they
are
not
one
in
this.
Those
two
definitions
are
not
one
and
the
same.
I
So
it's
just
it's
more
of
a
caution
when
thinking
about
this
kind
of
project
going
forward.
It's
not
necessarily
about
this
project,
but
it
just
concerns
me
that
we're
kind
of
going
beyond
or
we're
ignoring
the
role
of
a
neighborhood
center
because
of
the
opportunity
that
the
regional
center
framing
offers-
and
I
just
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind,
going
forward.
J
L
D
Yeah
and
I
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
talk
to
the
site,
review
criteria,
key
issue
and
you
know
fred,
I
I
do
think
I
I
guess
I
have
always
thought
of
this
as
being
part
of
the
regional
center,
so
of
of
uni
hill
regional
center.
So
you
know
that's.
I
I
had
that
hadn't
occurred
to
me,
so
I
I
you
know,
that's
something
that
we
can
keep
in
mind
for
future
work
on
revisions,
the
comp
plan,
if
there's
some
fuzziness
there.
F
And,
like
I
said
my
only
concern
has
been
about
you
know
just
making
sure
that
those
neighbors
that
are
closest
to
us
are
safe,
but
in
terms
of
how
it
fits
in
that
space.
I
I
hadn't,
I
hadn't
thought
about
it
and
I
still
don't
don't
see
a
disagreement.
I
think
it
is.
Maybe
it
was
a
misplaced
nomenclature
or
something
because
I,
if
it's.
P
So
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
bring
up
with
regard
to
the
mapping,
that's
on
page
eight
that
sarah
noted
right
above
the
mapping.
It
does
describe
the
three
regional
centers
says:
they
form
a
triangle
at
boulders,
geographic
center,
historic,
boulder,
boulder
valley,
regional
center
and
the
university
of
colorado
cu
with
the
university
hill
business
district,
which
also
serves
as
a
neighborhood
center
for
the
surrounding
area.
So
I
think,
it's
being
acknowledged
as
being
part
of
the
regional
center.
L
D
E
E
The
way
it
operates
almost
as
another
main
street,
you
know
kind
of
the
l
shape
of
the
major
of
the
major
roads
that
come
through
when
you
even
look
at
the
way
it's
resourced
with
parking
and
having
ujid
as
a
business
district.
As
a
bid
I
mean,
I,
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
view
it
as
being
something
that
at
least
has
the
potential
to
once
again
be
a
regional
center
as
well
as
a
neighborhood
center,
and
that
has
served
that
function
historically,
even
if
it's
not
kind
of
living
fully
up
to
that
today.
E
D
D
So,
let's
be
thinking
about
as
we
get
to
that,
whether
there
are
whether
we
can
work
with
the
applicant
see
if
there's
some
additional
conditions
that
we
would
want
to
put
that
are
specific
onto
any
motion
with
regards
to
bvcp
policies.
2.20
was
one
that
really
pops
out
that
I
think
the
role
in
this
in
in
center
of
of
the
central
valley
and
then
walkable
and
in
infill
2.24.
D
Both
of
those
are
so
key
to
this
proposal,
and
I
think
it
really
meets
those
policies
and
elaine
put
up
a
whole
bunch
of
other
ones
that
you
know
as
I
scan
through
them.
They
also
it
seemed
to
me
so
with
with
regards
to
bvcp.
I
think
it
does
a
good
job
of
of
that
relationship
with
the
surrounding
area.
D
D
There's
been
a
lot
of
area
added
on
all
of
the
street
fronts
as
far
as
I
can
tell
in
terms
of
additional
offset,
so
that
there's
really
some
breathing
room
and
some
walking
space,
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
pretty
fantastic
lots
of
space
on
all
three
streets
facing
the
the
the
the
side
facing
west.
Maybe
we
can
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
that
wall.
D
Stuff
was
done
to
try
to
accommodate
some
concerns,
so
we'll
have
to
see
you
know
if
there's
anything
more,
we
want
to
say
on
that.
With
regards
to
modifications,
I
think
that
there's
been
a
good
justification
for
the
height
and
floor
modifications
and
that
the
outcome
is
within
the
recommendations
of
the
code,
so
that
seems
to
all
have
been
taken
care
of
very
well
so
that
those
were
my
comments.
D
D
K
One
is
the
part
that
is
visible
from
university
coming
from
the
west,
where
there's
a
big
blank,
brick
wall
going
in
from
towards
the
south-
and
this
is
the
part-
that's
not
overlooking
the
sorority
patio
or
or
the
building
itself,
but
it's
very
visible
from
university
boulevard,
and
I
find
that
that
big
blank
wall
to
be
unacceptable,
and
I
would
like
to
see
you
know.
While
I
I
think
that
this
is
a
reasonable
project
and
it
should
move
ahead.
K
Secondly,
with
the
respect
to
the
wall
going
further
south
from
that
brick
portion
that
I
just
spoke
about,
I
I
think
that
it
is,
you
know,
done
probably
as
cheaply
as
possible
to
build
that
wall
and
make
it
solid.
But
I
don't
see
that
much
effort
has
been
given
to
make
it
attractive
and
given
the
amount
of
traffic
and
the
places
from
which
that
wall
will
be
highly
visible
and
that's
from
along
the
alley
and
also
along
pleasant
street
to
the
west.
D
D
D
J
Peter
elaine
said
something
that
I
thought
was
interesting:
that
the
compatible
transition
between
higher
and
lower
and
the
the
idea
of
relative
tranquility
being
the
gold
standard
in
hotels.
People
are
paying
money,
so
they
can
sleep,
so
they
can
get
rest.
So
obviously
people
enjoy
themselves
in
their
own
hotels
and
whatnot,
but
the
very
concept
of
the
oasis
of
a
hotel
and
what
people
come
there
for
if
they're
unable
to
sleep
and
though
there
will
be
parties,
most
people
will
go
there
and
expect
that
they
will
get
rest.
It
was
meaningful
to
me.
J
D
J
J
Dumping
that
many
cars
on
pleasant
right
was
also
a
concern,
but
you're
not
going
to
put
them
on
broadway.
So
it's
a
tough
one.
I
think
a
lot
of
thought
and
work
has
gone
into
it.
I'm
certain
there
are
a
few
issues
with
it,
but
I
want
to
look
at
it
the
other
direction
of
we're
trying
to
get
a
lot
into
our
tiny
town,
we're
trying
to
get
the
right
amount
in
our
tiny
town,
and
so
I
I'd
welcome
comments
from
folks
who
know
more
or
who
have
transportation
more.
D
D
L
D
There's
the
hotel
use
is
is
consistent
with
the
land
use
and
zoning
mub,
land
use
and
bms
zoning
and
so
and
it
and
it
does
serve
as
a
transition
from
higher
to
lower
density
uses.
So
I
think
that
those
those
criteria
are
met
quite
well.
Well,
the
condition
regarding
the
maintenance
of
the
transit
stop
along
broadway.
D
I
I
guess
it
was
analyzed
and
decided
not
to
have
the
buses
pull
off
broadway
so
but
it'll
be
a
nice
stop
there,
and
I
can
imagine
why
that
was.
That
decision
was
made
and
oh
while
we're
talking
circulation,
coordinating
coordination
with
the
cu
conference
center.
As
that
goes
forward-
and
this
is
really
a
city
thing.
D
I
would
hope
that
our
transportation
folks
would
really
look
at
some
kind
of
interesting
ways
to
design
that
intersection,
because
there's
going
to
be
kitty
corner
traffic
going
from
the
north
west
northeast
to
the
southwest
corner
between
these
sites
and
there's
a
lot
of
really
cool
intersections
that
if
you
hit
the
button
it'll
the
whole,
all
the
car
traffic
will
stop
and
then
a
diagonal
crossing
gets
enabled,
and
so
people
could
cross
all
directions.
If
there
was
a
light
cycle
that
let
that
happen,
so
that's
just
something
to
think
about.
E
D
So
with
that
and
then
of
course,
there's
solar
panels
in
the
plan,
rather
than
just
wiring
for
solar
solar.
So
that's
that's
nice
to
see
always
ev
charging
and
things
like
that.
So
so,
there's
a
lot
to
like
the
sorority
concerns
were
discussed
and
I
think
that
we
can.
You
know
people
feel
free
to
make
more
comments,
but
we
can
start
to
talk
about
whether
there
are
some
specific
things.
The
three
areas
I
saw
were
the
placement
of
the
hot
tub
gosh
I
jotted
them
down.
AA
I
And
the
though
it
sounds
to
me
like
there's,
also
a
need
for
some
significant
agreement
on
the
that
wall
and
who's
responsible
for
it
and
what
it's
going
to
look
like
and
how
it's
maintained,
etc,
etc.
I
mean
that
seems
like
a
a
subject.
I
don't
know
that
we
can
make
a
condition,
but
it
does
seem
like
a
subject
worth
at
least
touching
on.
L
K
What
my
my
concerns
were
in
that
respect,
and
that
was
that
it's
not
obvious
to
me
that
a
sorority
can
request
special
treatment
compared
to
other
private
land
holders
over
what
the
neighbors
are
allowed
to
develop.
I
mean
we
have
regulations
in
this
town
that
describe
the
relation,
what
what
people
are
allowed
to
do
next
to
others,
I'm
sympathetic
to
their
concerns,
of
course,
but
the
degree
to
which
it's
appropriate
to
require
unique
issues
to
be
done
for
this
project.
In
order
to
to
make
the
neighbor
sorority
satisfied.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
john.
I
agree
with
that.
I
think
that
anything
we
put
in
we
would
need
to
be
consistent
with
you
know,
with
general
concerns.
Not
necessarily
you
know.
The
general
concerns
for
safety
with
regards
to
to
the
the
areas
that
we've
looked
at
they've
looked
at,
we'd
have
to
be
fairly
specific,
or
maybe
we
just
give
guidance
for
staff
to
sign
off
what
what
kinds
of
things
we'd
like
to
see
before
staff
would
sign
off
right.
F
Yes,
I
think
I'm
already
unmuted.
So
actually
I
think
this
is
another
teaching
moment
to
talk
about
equity,
and
in
this
case
you
know
we
have
spoken
about
equity
in
the
past,
about
how
people
have
different
needs
and
now
we're
looking
at
gender
needs
and
we
live
in
a
country
that
is
widely
recognized
that
there's
a
lot
a
lot
of
violence
against
women.
F
About
many
things
I
mean
we
just
went
through
this
situation
with
the
asian
community
that
is
suffering
and
the
ways
that
the
mexican
community
suffered
last
year
and
the
black
community
has
been
suffering
for
centuries.
So
there's
a
lot
of
suffering,
and
so,
when
we
talked
about
you
know
not
playing
favorites
or
trying
to
make
things
equal,
I
think
it's
not
about
treating
everybody
the
same,
but
considering
the
specifics
of
the
different
people
that
may
be
affected.
F
So
this
is
about
an
equity
situation,
not
about
an
equality
things.
We
don't
treat
everybody
the
same
where
the
needs
are
different,
so
I
prefaced
it.
We
live
in
a
country
with
a
lot
of
violence
against
women.
So
before
you
go
on
to
say
we're
going
to
treat,
everybody
else
apply
the
rules.
Equally,
I
want
the
men
in
this
board
to
think
about
your
hopefully
have
daughters.
F
How
would
you
like
to
be
protected
on
to
the
women
and
not
to
say
that?
There's
no
violence
against
men,
but
this
is
one
of
the
places
where
I
really
just
want
everybody
to
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
how
we
can
use
the
equity
lens
that
we
have
given
in
the
city
to
make
sure
that
what
we
do
moving
forward.
F
It
is
that
with
equity
in
mind,
not
just
with
equality.
Does
that
make
sense,
and
I
think
that's.
I
said
these
things,
because
we
we
hit
this
sort
of
space
before
for
another
kind
of
case.
But
it's
my
it's
my
deepest
belief
that
if
we
just
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
we
figure
out
that
the
perfect
place
we
can
all
agree
and
then
everybody
can
be
comfortable,
saying
we
all
trying
our
best
so
that
everybody
is
treated
in
the
right
way
and
we
can
help
our
city.
F
D
E
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
on
this
specific
thing
and
I'm
I'm
not
sure.
I
have
a
good
answer
to
that
just
yet.
I
think
one
thing
that
that
stood
out
to
me
and-
and
it's
always
hard
to
know
when
we're
in
these
public
meetings
and
we're
not
involved
in
conversations
behind
the
scenes
as
we
shouldn't
be,
but
it
seemed
at
least
publicly
in
this
forum
that
the
hotel
was
expressing
an
interest
in
addressing
at
least
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
sorority
has
had.
E
And
so
I
think,
that's
that's
always
kind
of
a
tricky
space
to
operate
in
my
instinct,
which
might
be
a
little
bit
kicking
the
can.
So
I
welcome
other
people
to
weigh,
in
with
with
better
ideas,
is,
is
to
encourage
the
two
parties
to
work
with
each
other
or
to
enter
just
some
form
of
mediation,
or
you
know
something
to
address
that.
You
know
and
and
not
putting
necessarily
the
city
in
a
position
of
preferencing
a
certain
group
wow.
E
Certainly,
I
can
speak
for
myself
individually
and
hopefully
for
other
members
of
the
board
as
well.
Recognizing
you
know
valid
concerns
and
that
this
kind
of
thing
should
be
addressed.
So
that's
where
I'm
at
I
don't
know
how
that
pans
out
in
terms
of
language
or
legality,
but
that's
how
I'm
feeling
about
that
question.
D
D
You
know
there
has
to
be
a
you
know,
some
someone
who
makes
the
the
final
determination,
but
we
can't
just
make
it.
We
can't
give
other
peop.
You
know
other
entities
the
ability
to
to
sign
off
on
on
this.
So
so
I
would,
I
would
say
one
one
thing:
I'm
hearing
definitely
from
a
safety
standpoint
is
lighting.
D
I
D
I
think
that
makes
sense.
I
hella
you've
been
probably
thinking
about
this
a
bit
as
we
were
going
through,
and
I
mean
it
would
be
fine
to
put
up
danica's
slide
again
because
danica.
I
think
that
was
really
useful
to
help
us
understand
things
that
you
are
working
on,
that
we
could
potentially
condition.
So
if
we
slide
up.
E
And
something
I'd
be
interested
in
hearing
about
from
staff
or
or
potentially
the
applicant,
if
appropriate,
would
just
be
what
falls
under
whose
purview
like
who?
Who
has
the
ability
to
pay
for,
or
chip
in
or
maintain
or
whatever
certain
areas
versus?
What
you
know
is
the
city's
responsibility
or
the
district's
responsibility
through
the
city,
or
you
know
the
developer,
because
that's
that's
just
something.
That's
rising
up
for
me.
D
D
G
Starting
point
conditions
of
approval,
of
course,
is
that
you
impose
conditions
of
approval
only
if
you
find
that
without
those
conditions,
the
project
does
not
meet
the
review
criteria.
So
how
is
it
meeting
the
criteria
or
not
and
does
the
condition
bring
the
project
there
if
it
doesn't
need?
It
is
the
starting
point,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
go
through
each
one
of
these
points
or
the
ones
that
you're
concerned
about
that
without
addressing
them,
the
review
criteria
are
not
met
with
this
first
one.
O
So
you
know
these
issues
with
le
management
aren't
unique
and
they
exist.
You
know
in
a
lot
of
communities,
but
particularly
downtown
boulder.
We
see
a
lot
of
interface
between
commercial
structures,
sometimes
new
commercial
structures,
new
commercial
businesses
and
an
interface
with
residential.
You
know,
and
over
time
everybody
learns.
You
know
what
the
patterns
are
and
kind
of
learn
to
coexist.
O
You
know
really
the
the
the
service
function
of
an
alley
is
to
I'm
sorry.
The
function
of
an
alley
is
really
to
provide
those
service
functions
and
to
hide
some
of
the
unsightly.
You
know
functions
of
the
building,
so
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
natural
issue
when
you
have
an
interface
between
a
commercial
business
and
a
residential
setting,
but
in
this
particular
case,
if
it's
about
the
timing
of
deliveries,
then
I
think
that
that's
something
that
the
applicant
could
easily
address.
O
One
thing
we
do
know
is
that
when
you
pay
people
to
deliver
you
things
you
can
work
with
them
on
the
timing,
so
I
think
we
could
probably
craft
conditions
of
approval
around
delivery
timing
or
the
number
of
you
know
consecutive
deliveries
or
no
more
than
one
delivery
at
a
time.
I
think
we
have
options
there
to
the
extent
that
that's
helpful,
but
preventing
you
know
that
service
function
in
the
alley.
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
something
we'd
be
able
to
craft
a
conditioner
on.
O
Nor
do
I
think
that
there's
appropriate
locations
for
that
type
of
loading
off
of
pleasant.
Being
that
it's
there's
a
whole
curbside
management
program,
that's
being
proposed
there.
I
think
the
other
thing
that
I
would
say
is
recognizing
that
the
space
back
there
is
tight
and
it
is
a
very
uniquely
configured
lot.
D
Okay,
thank
you
charles.
That's,
that's
really
useful
with
with
that
one.
So
does
anyone
have
any
desire
to
to
propose
any
language
that
you'd
think
would
assure
that
we
meet
the
the
city
code
criteria
better
with
and
the
and
the
neighborhood
criteria
better,
because
I
I
know
that
you
know
the
hammerhead,
like
charles
said,
has
been
put
in
to
kind
of
make
maneuverability
better
and
it
moves
it
inside
the
footprint
of
the
building.
So
maybe
ours
would
be
of
interest.
I
Yeah,
I
think,
given
what
is
on
the
matrix
and
that
the
applicant
has
indicated
a
willingness
to
accept
a
condition
of
approval
that
has
to
do
with
limited
number
of
service
vehicle
trips
per
day
or
limited
hours
of
services
of
service,
vehicle
trips
and
charles's.
Point
that
the
management
team
can
work
with
his
his
or
her
delivery
folks
to
determine
those
hours.
I
And-
and
maybe
we
don't
suggest
them,
maybe
we
limit
we
instead
of
suggesting
hours,
we
suggest
the
two
service
vehicle
trips
per
day
and
then
let
the
to
institutions
that
talk
it
through.
When
that
you
know
when
the
sorority
needs
things
delivered
and
when
the
the
hotel
and
retail
folks
need
things
delivered,
let
them
sort
of
work
it
out.
D
H
O
O
H
O
I
So,
charles,
are
you
saying
that?
Because
because
the
current
configuration
is
that
the
existing
stores
have
parking
lots,
what
is
the
alley
right
now
doesn't
serve
an
alley,
a
per
se
an
alley
function
and
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
hotel,
is
the
parking
lot
goes
away
and
therefore
the
alley
is
brought
back
into
its
original
purpose
of
delivery.
O
Yeah,
I
think
that
it
probably
will
you
know,
be
the
the
primary
well,
I
shouldn't
say
primary
because
I
think
in
the
ellie
management
plan
that
was
included,
there'll
be
deliveries
that
happen
in
the
parking
garage
as
well,
but
the
deliveries
of
the
hotel
that
will
occur
in
the
alley.
You
know
right
now.
It
just
looks
like
the
way
that
you
know
the
existing
strip
mall
out.
O
There
is
configured
that
trucks
are
probably
just
parking
in
the
parking
lot
and
turning
on
their
flashers,
and
you
know
loading
in
to
the
businesses
that
they
can
get
to
in
the
back.
And
you
know,
trucks
are
probably
using
the
parking
lot
in
the
front
to
load
into
the
portions
of
the
building.
You
know
that
aren't
accessible
by
the
alley
or
the
parking
lot.
O
D
But
I'm
so
yeah
and
what
we'll
do
is,
let's
just
see
if
we
can
settle
on
what
seems
to
be
the
best
set
of
condition,
possibilities
that
can
address
these
equity
and
safety
concerns
and
then
ask
the
applicant
to
comment
on
on
this.
But
I
I
do
see
two
service
vehicle
trips
per
day
anticipated
that
seems
pretty
low.
D
K
I
again,
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
this.
The
alley
is
a
public
utility
and
the
the
hotel
has
as
much
right
to
use
it
as
the
existing
neighbors
along
it.
So
I
think
it
would
be
unreasonable
or
inappropriate
to
place
limits
on
the
hotel,
which
don't
also
apply
to
the
other
users
of
the
alley.
Okay,.
E
I'm
more
comfortable
and
again,
I
know
it's
fuzzy
and
enforcing
fuzzy
things
as
kind
of
a
nightmare,
but
but
I'm
I'm,
I
I
agree
with
john
and
I
feel
more
comfortable
at
some
kind
of
a
good
neighbor
agreement,
or
you
know
something
like
that.
I
want
to
take
into
account.
You
know
staff's
point
about.
You
know
what
we
can
and
can't
do,
but
it's
a
right
of
way.
J
J
The
hardest
part
about
every
one
of
these
is
there's
always
group
that
we
have
to
say
look.
You
know
this
is
going
to
affect
how
you
exist
now
and
I
think
the
applicant's
point
was
in
one
way.
There
was
a
wallet
here
before
there
was
a
building
and
that's
what
there
is
now
and
you
wanted
a
wall.
And
then
you
don't
want
a
wall.
It's
it's
at
a
certain
point.
J
F
And
if
it
doesn't,
then
it's
a
breaking
of
the
agreement,
because
I
think
is
the
timing
that
needs
to
what,
whether
it's,
within
a
certain
time
of
of
the
day
we
don't
know.
I
have
no
idea
what's
the
best
time,
but
they
will
know,
and
so
as
long
as
it's
clear
that
that
agreement
comes
from
them,
I
think
that's
all.
We
can
do
just
make
sure
that
that
language
is
in
there.
F
Yeah
so
the
and
the
agreement
that
is,
that
they
have
the
the
input
from
the
the
group
and
namely
the
neighbors.
As
of
when
that
timing
will
happen,
when
the
deliveries
will
have
to
happen,
we
were
talking
about
ada
in
the
morning
to
late
at
night
we
were
throwing
numbers
in
there
or
times
we
don't
know,
but
they
should
know
and
they
should
have,
and
I
believe
that
they
can't
have
a
discussion.
You
know,
and
somebody
mentioned
it-
people
can
have
these
conversations,
my
goodness,
yes,
these
are
adults
should
be
able
to
have
some.
F
You
know
just
like
going
there
with,
like
we
usually
do
in
this
panel.
Many
of
us
we
just
talk
a
lot,
but
at
the
end,
usually
we
come
to
a
very
comfortable
agreement,
and
so
all
I'm
saying
is
they
can
do
this
because
they
they
they
will
air
their
concerns
on
both
sides,
and
then
they
can
come
up
to
that
timing.
G
Suggest
some
language,
because
I
think
you
know
there
are
several
property
owners
living
along
that
alley
and
and
all
of
them
may
at
some
point
have
deliveries,
and
maybe
the
language
should
be
a
little
broader.
How
about
language
such
as
good
faith,
efforts
to
coordinate
deliveries
and
other
services
provided
through
the
alley
with
neighboring
property
owners,
managers
and
tenants
to
avoid
conflicts
between
deliveries
and
other
services
provided
to
the
property
served
by
the
alley.
D
D
I
D
Q
Between
that
amenity
and
the
the
kappa
house
we
we
do
have
some
access
things
that
we
need
to
sort
out.
It's
not
a
quick
flip.
We've
looked
at
it,
so
I
think
we
can
probably
accommodate
the
need
to
separate
the
hot
tub
from
the
edge
we
did
design
it
so
that
you
cannot
see
and
the
hot
tub
was
actually
designed
to
be
on
the
edge.
So
if
you're
sitting
in
the
hot
tub,
you
literally
can't
see
over
the
balcony,
so
we
did
design
it
that
way.
Q
But
if,
if
and
there's
a
line
of
sight
here
on
this
diagram,
but
if
that
isn't
acceptable,
then
we
can
work
on
it.
So
this
might
be
one
that
we
can
work
on
a
design
with
kappa
to
find
the
appropriate
location,
because
I
it
may
be
that
this
is
the
better
location,
because
you
actually
can't
see
out
and
if
you're
sitting
in
water,
you
can't
look
over
the
rail.
So
we
thought
it
was
a
good
solution,
but
we're
happy
to
continue
to
work
on
it.
Q
J
D
D
G
Q
Yeah,
I
think
it
does,
and
I
think
it
just
would
be
again
to
lupita's
point,
a
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
it's
hard
to
have
in
person.
But
we
did
already.
Those
windows
are
non-operable,
they're
smaller
and
they
don't
go
to
the
ground.
So
that
is
something
we've
already
done,
and
so
we
think
we've
met
it.
D
D
H
The
the
question
I
had
on
aesthetics-
and
maybe
we
can
just
get
some
clarification
from
danica.
What
I
I
heard
you
say
was
that
it'll
be
a
cmu
wall
and
they'll.
Have
the
opportunity
to
have
it
finished?
Is
the
applicant
proposing
that
they're
going
to
pay
for
the
finishing
of
the
wall
or
is?
Are
you
putting
the
burden
on
the
sorority
to
to
pay
for
it.
Q
Q
Q
H
Q
Yeah,
I
and
I
think,
that's
one-
we
can
work
with
them
on
it's
definitely.
A
security
wall
is
what
we
were
building,
so
that
has
a
certain
element,
but
we
can
work
with
them
and
it
is
on
our
property
entirely.
So
the
maintenance
would
you
know,
so
we
can
work
out
a
maintenance
agreement
as
well,
but
we
also
placed
it
on
a
property,
so
they
didn't
have
the
burden
of
taking
care
of
it
and
they
weren't
it
wasn't
encroaching
into
their
property.
Q
G
And,
and
from
a
from
a
legal
perspective,
there
are
side
review
criteria
that
talk
about
the
pedestrian
experience
and
you
know
the
architectural
interest
a
building
creates.
So
if
you
find
that
that
doesn't
exist
in
this
area,
you
could
add
conditions
to
to
add
design
elements
or
art
or
something
like
that.
F
If
yeah
thank
you
hello,
because
I
was
going
a
minute,
I
was
going
to
make
a
comment
regarding
that
you
know
I
I
went
to
a
high
school
in
l.a,
where
we
had
the
great
wall
of
la
with
a
very
long
mural
and
it
was
a
side
a
visit.
I
loved
very
proud
of
that.
I
wasn't,
I
didn't
participate
in
it,
but
every
time
I
go
home,
I
always
like
to
go
walks
along
that
to
see
it.
It
talks
about.
F
You
know
the
development
of
the
la
area
from
the
very
beginning,
prehistoric
times
pretty,
and
it
was
really
nice
and
I,
as
we
were
listening
about
this
empty
wall
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
maybe
this
will
be
one
thing
where
the
maybe
the
sorority
house
can
create
something
where
they
can't
present
the
history.
F
We
talked
about
it
being
around
for
100
years
and
I
don't
know
it's
just
kind
of
my
brain
started
going
on,
because
I
really
do
think
that
there's
maybe
a
missed
opportunity
right
now,
where
it
can
really
be
something
of
a
plus
as
opposed
to
something
of
an
eyesore.
So
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out
there,
because
I
started
thinking
about
my
high
school
years
and
even
when
I
go
home
like
I
said
it's,
it
really
is
a
it's
a
it's
a
place
that
makes
me
feel
good.
D
L
D
Q
Us
I'm
reading
the
request
and
it
says,
move
the
further
south.
So
that's
location
is
consistent
with
the
north
edge
of
the
alley
and
I
my
understanding
is,
we
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
We
just,
I
think
it's
just
a
location
thing,
and
so
you
know
what
what
I
will
point
out
that
that
area
is
very,
it
can
be
very
dark
and
you
know
we
don't
want
to
create
secret
hiding
pieces.
Q
So
that
was
one
of
the
things
we
were
trying
to
do,
and
so,
if
the
gate
is
if
their
preference
or,
however
we
create,
we
didn't
create
any
pedestrian
activity
or
any
activation
on
that
side
of
our
building
as
well
to
create
a
pretty
safe
space.
So
I
think
moving
the
gate
is
fine
or
maybe
making
it
a
gate,
I'm
not
exactly
sure,
but
we're
happy
to
work
on
that.
I
Q
D
Q
S
D
L
D
All
right,
but
then
and
then
the
rest
of
them.
I
felt
like
there
was
some
pretty
good
progress
on,
but
if
anybody,
I
guess,
if
we
could
put
that
last
slide
back
up
with
those.
If
anybody
wanted
to
talk
to
any
of
the
other
four
items
you
know,
I
I
feel
like
there's,
there's
indication
that
there's
been
discussion
and
some
agreement,
but
if,
if
anyone
sees
anything
they'd
like
to
talk
about.
D
Q
And
the
path
is
lit,
so
I
think
that
might
be
taken
care
of
and
it's
in
one
of
their
it's
just.
We
kind
of
rolled
everything
up,
but
the
challenge
is
we
can't
exp.
We
can't
spill
lighting
onto
our
neighbors
by
our
lighting
ordinance.
So
we
do.
I
can
show
you
the
plan
that
there
is
lighting
on
the
path,
so
I
think
it
might
be
addressed
because,
but
we
also-
I
don't
know
if
there
might
be
guidance
to
do.
Q
E
And
that
was
one
of
the
things
I
was
thinking
about
the
dark
side,
ordinance,
what's
your
property,
what's
public
right-of-way
and
then
also
just
to
a
certain
extent,
and
we
might
depending
on
how
it
fits
into
your
plan
and
what
we
can
do
legally.
I
know
that
there's
longer-term
plans
to
try
to
activate
some
of
the
alleys
and
put
more
art
into
the
alleys
yeah.
E
So
I
I'd
be
curious
to
hear
from
staff
you
know
and
other
others
just
kind
of
around,
what's
possible
with
lighting
you
know
in
what's
legally
allowable,
what's
maybe
best
practice
through
that
space.
You
know
and
then
perhaps
even
you
know
think
a
little
bit
about
the
financial
implications.
But
I
appreciate
that
you
know
you
can
only
have
down
lights
and
they're,
not
gonna
flood
the
whole
space
because
they're
designed
not
to
which
is
them
working
as
intended.
P
O
I
would
say,
generally,
I
would
say,
generally
the
city's
lighting
regulations
and
the
level
the
maximum
levels
that
are
prescribed
in
the
code
absolutely
lend
themselves
to
pedestrian
safety
in
these
types
of
environments.
So
I
think
it's
really
more
about
the
lighting
design,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
have
down
lights
and
still
design
it
so
that
the
space
is
flooded
with
light
without
actually
polluting
the
night
sky.
So
that's
typically
a
detail
that
we
would
get
to
at
the
technical
document
review
phase.
D
D
So
I
could
read
kind
of
what
the
notes
I've
taken.
I
probably
don't
have
good
motion
language
yet,
but
we
have
you
know
the
motion
with
subject:
conditions
of
approval
recommended
by
the
staff
and
then
something
you
know:
helen
had
really
good
language
for
and
good
faith
efforts
to
coordinate
deliveries
between
neighbors,
etc,
etc.
D
D
D
Q
We
said:
there's
property
management,
nine
to
five
and
then
there's
24
7
or
maintenance
nine
to
five,
but
property
management
24
7..
So
I
think
those
are
kind
of
two
separate
things.
So
there
will
be
on-site
somebody
to
call
and
deal
with
any
situation
that
arises:
24
7.!
I
don't
think
they
will
have
an
on-site
property
manager
there,
because
that
wouldn't
make
sense
over
the
weekends.
But
there
would
be
somebody
to
call
if
there
was
a
problem
yeah
on
site,
yeah.
I
K
K
L
K
Picture
what
what's
easy
to
ignore
is
that
many
people
who
don't
live
in
the
area.
They
just
come
along
from
broadway,
and
so
they
see
the
eastern
side
and
perhaps
the
southern
and
northern
side.
But
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
come
from
the
west,
both
along
university
and
along
pleasant
street
and
along
the
alley
and.
D
So
I
wonder
if
somebody
if
somebody
could
put
up
the
west
elevation,
that
is
on
a
14
of
the
of
the
there
we
go
perfect.
Thank
you.
So
we've
talked
about
asking
for
some
detail
on
the
privacy
fence,
which
would
be
that
lower
thing
that
so
you're
talking
about
like
that
gray
thing
under
the
windows
that
kind
of
blank
well.
D
Q
D
R
Q
Q
I
K
K
R
R
D
I
I
actually
don't
think
it
looks
personally.
I
don't
think
it
looks
bad
and
I
think
it
looks
appropriate
for
for
facing
that
access
alley
in
the
back
and
as
long
as
it's
as
as
long
as
the
material
is
a
finished
material
right
now,
I'm
not
seeing
a
huge
I'd
be
interested
in
what
other
people
are
thinking,
but.
E
R
And
it's
it's
set
back,
so
we
don't.
So
we
have
brick
that
returns
the
corner
on
that
the
meeting
room
mass
and
then
then
there's
the
stair
core,
that's
cladded
metal
panel,
and
then
it
transitions
to
stucco.
So
it's
it's
pretty
far
back.
If
you
were
to
measure
from
the
north
property
line
where
it
transitions
to
the
more
back
of
house
material.
L
R
R
K
R
E
E
You
know
I
I
again
think
of
it
that
way,
so
I'll
I'll
just
put
that
out
there,
and
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
the
flow
of
answering
the
question
about
why
it's
blank,
but
I
I
think
something
that
could
be
done
to
add
interest
to
that.
You
know
I
think
of
the
historic
ads
and
so
on
that
have
been
preserved
in
denver
and
and
maybe
maybe
we
can
do
something
cool
with
that
wall
and
make
it
less
of
a
big
blank
wall.
AA
D
P
Oh,
I
did
I.
I
was
just
going
to
point
to
the
dab
comments
on
that
since
we
were
talking
dap
earlier.
I
am
just
going
to
share
the
screen
really
quick,
because
I
think
it's
it's
instructive.
They
did
comment
on
on
that
and
they
did
have
a
pretty
thorough
look
at
all
sides
of
the
building,
and
so
what
I've
highlighted
here
is
northeast
northwest
side
of
the
hotel.
P
K
I
mean
I,
I
would
be
satisfied
with
specifying
that
they
need
to
consider
some.
You
know
their
relationship
with
the
art,
museum
and
move
ahead
with
that
and
consider
consider
their
options.
I
I
mean
I'm
not
in
a
position
to
specify
what
should
happen
there.
Just
just
doesn't
seem
satisfactory
to
me
right
now,
but
it
I
I
defer.
You
know,
I'm
I'm
willing
to
defer
it
to
the
folks
who
specialize
in
in
the
aesthetic
aspects
of
these
buildings.
D
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's
just
see
are
there
like,
I
say
I
mean
we
can
really.
I
think,
once
we
start
working
on
language,
we
can
figure
out
if
there's,
if
there's
something,
we
need
to
add
to
emotion,
but
are
there
any
other
topics
that
people
want
to
discuss
or
should?
Does
anyone
want
to
actually
make
a
motion
or
helen?
I
don't
know
if
you
sent
your
language,
I'm
sorry
you're,
muted,.
G
D
E
Think
it's
you
know,
yeah
just
the
street
wise
murals,
I
think
of,
and
I
think
of
all
the
work
that
and
now
I'm
totally
blinking,
because
it's
late
but
the
the
arts
matches
and,
like
all
the
arts
work
that
the
city
of
boulder
has
done
it.
I
think
there's
some
cool
opportunities
to
kind
of
activate
different
aspects
of
the
building,
and
I
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
tell
people
exactly
how
to
do
that
or
what
art
belongs
there
or
anything.
I'm
not.
I
D
D
Q
Yeah-
and
the
only
caveat
I
heard
from
our
engineer-
is
that
we
do
have
some
truck
turning
movements
that
need
to
be
accommodated
in
there.
So
I
think
we
can
move
it
and
kind
of,
I
hope,
hopefully
achieve
the
goal
of
security
of
securing
that
area,
but
also
making
sure
we
have
our
turning
movements.
Okay,.
D
Oh,
I
see
so
are
these
all
ones
we
discussed.
Let's
see,
okay
prior
to
a
building,
permit
application
for
the
new
building.
The
plans
shall
be
revised,
subject
to
review
and
approval
of
the
city
manager
to
show
the
hot
tub
on
the
east
side
of
the
hot
tub
deck
and
planting
and
screening
on
the
west
side
of
the
deck.
D
D
K
G
G
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
hear
I
hear
the
concern
you're
thinking
of
of
past
proposals
that
have
offered
public
spaces
where
they
haven't
been
what
we've
expected,
but
it
does
seem
pretty
key
to
this
design
that
this
is
a
an
open
plaza
that
you
move
through.
I
just
can't
I
mean
it
would.
It
would
seem
to
me
to
be
it's
difficult
for
me
to
understand
how
that
would
change.
K
G
If
you
have
any
kind
of
suggestions
of
what
that
could
be,
that
would
be
helpful
to
staff
and
applying
this,
and
it
could
just
listing
an
example
what
what
that
might
be
just
to
give
a
little
bit
better
idea
of
what
might
be
acceptable.
Is
it
changing
up
how
the
brick
looks?
You
know
the
brick
design
pattern
itself
or
something
like
that.
Would
that
be
sufficient,
and
maybe
charles
or
delane
elaine
have
some
thoughts
on
that.
I
Well,
so
the
applicant
did
put
up
some
photographs
of
brickwork
that
they
were
referencing
as
ideas,
and
I
don't
know
whether
that
was
specifically
for
the
northeast
wall
or
whether
that
was
I.
I
can't
remember
now
what
that
was
referencing,
but
you
know
something
like
that
might
be
the
kind
of
adding
the
kind
of
design
detail.
I
I
think
we're
I'm
hesitating,
because
I've
already
heard
my
colleagues
say
that
we
aren't
the
ones
who
would
know
what
to
put
up
there
and
we
are
hesitant
to
suggest
something.
I
AA
D
O
So
if
the
board
wanted
to
add
a
condition
of
approval
about
that
elevation
of
the
building
to
include
design
elements
through
masonry,
decorative
masonry
and
brick
coursing,
I
think
that
would
give
us
something
to
work
from.
If
that's
what
the
board's
after
and
on
page,
I
want
to
say
it's
48
of
the
packet.
There
were
some
examples
of
kind
of
some
skull
sculptural
wall
patterning.
X
D
Well,
I
I
find
it
a
little
bit
concerning
to
add
a
huge
amount
of
cost
by
doing
something
really
incred,
you
know
really
custom
to
the
back
of
the
building.
I
think
that's
a
little
unreasonable,
so
I
would
rather
just
say
using
using
brick
or-
or
you
know,
some
sort
of
brick
facing
or
something
rather
than
trying
to
save,
come
up
with
a
real
custom
design.
J
I
I
think
I
think
the
question
is
when,
and
I
I
guess,
I'm
going
to
ask
danica
when
the
applicant
showed
us
these:
were
they
referencing
something
they're
already
doing
on
some
other
part
of
the
building,
or
was
this
something
they
looked
at
and
chose
not
to
do
I
just
I
can't
remember
now.
Three
hours
ago,
yeah.
Q
I
What
if
we
have
a
condition?
Thank
you
danica,
what
if
we
have
a
condition
that
just
says
to
create
the
to
maintain
the
opportunity
sometime
in
the
future,
for
the
west
wall
to
have
not.
It's
not
about
course,
work.
It's
not
about
something
built
into
the
design,
but
rather
in
time
revisiting
that
after
the
building's
been
built,
people
have
lived
with
it
for
a
while,
so
just
so
that
it's
captured
somewhere.
I
just
I'm.
D
D
Rid
of
the
language,
I
think
we
should
get
rid
of
the
language,
because
I
honestly
you
know
I
don't
know
nobody
else
is
speaking,
except
for
really
to
speaking
up
for
sprucing
up
the
back
of
the
building
to
this
level,
except
for
john,
and
I
haven't
heard
really
strong
opinions
from
anyone
else.
Does
anyone
feel
that
they
need
to
have
a
really
strong
artistic
design
on
the
back
of
building?
Here?
D
D
So
why
don't
I?
Why
don't
I
do
that
again
hell
if
you
could
put
up
that
language
and
then
I'll
try
to
summarize
it
since
we
read
through
it
once
and
then
once
we
get
a
second
and
some
additional
discussion
and
we're
ready
for
a
vote,
I
can
restate
it.
So
the
emotion
to
approve
was
the
language
from
our
packet
and
then
the
conditions
that
we're
thinking
of
putting
in
which
I'll
I
can
re-read
when
we
restate
the
motion,
if
you
can,
is
this
the
very
top
here.
D
D
D
Then
we,
I
think
that
we
talked
about
the
gate.
We
talked
about
the
lighting,
we
talked
about
the
management
plan,
we
talked
about
the
hot
tub
and
I
didn't
hear
any
concerns
about
the
language
so
that
we
could
make
this
the
motion
in
front
of
the
board
unless
there's
further
discussion
before
we
get
a
second.
O
O
H
D
K
D
K
D
I'm
going
to
restate
the
motion,
I'm
just
going
to
read
it
all
the
way
through
once
more,
since
it's
a
fairly
complex
set
of
conditions
that
we're
approving
here,
I
know
it's
getting
late
motion
to
approve
site
and
use
review
case
number
lur,
2020-00040,
incorporating
the
staff
memorandum
and
attached
criteria
checklist.
This
findings,
in
fact,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
recommended
by
staff
by
the
staff
memorandum
and
adding
the
following.
D
H
D
Right:
okay,
that's
right
exactly!
Thank
you!
The
final
plans
shall
show
a
gate
at
the
north
edge
of
the
alley
between
the
privacy,
while
in
the
hotel.
The
outdoor
lighting
plan
shall
include
lighting
of
the
path
connecting
the
alley
with
pleasant
street
for
pedestrian
safety
and
then,
if
we
can
scroll
down.
D
The
plan
shall
be
revised,
subject
to
review
and
approval
of
the
city
managers
to
show
the
hot
tub
on
the
east
side
of
the
hot
tub
deck
and
planting
and
screening
on
the
west
side
of
the
deck
and
prior
to
a
building
permit
application
for
the
new
building.
The
management
plan
shall
be
revised
to
provide
property
management
to
be
present
on
the
property
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week.
Q
My
engineer,
jva
is
worried
about
the
gate
and
the
post.
If
we
have,
if
we
impede
our
truck
movement,
so
is
there
any
way
we
can?
I
don't
know
I
I
just
don't
want
to
block
access
to
our
parking
garage
with
this
gate
and
we
just
haven't
studied
it.
So
is
there
a
way
to
say,
provide
a
security
gate
with
and
can
coordinate
with
kappa
or
something
on
that.
Q
D
G
Q
G
D
L
D
F
If
I
may
ask
what
question
I'm
wondering,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
maybe
a
combination
of
concerns,
one
is
being
for
you
know
the
safety
of
the
vehicles,
you
know
so
in
terms
of
transportation
concerns,
but
also
from
from
the
perspective
of
the
sororities.
It
was
something
about
safety
concerns.
F
D
L
D
L
D
Okay,
okay,
well,
good!
It's
it's
good!
I
mean
these
are
complex
things
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
don't
we
get
them
right.
So
I
think
that
that
this
gives
us
a
set
of
conditions
that
hopefully
people
feel
were
listening
to
the
concerns
of
the
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
With
regards
to
safety,
I
think
it's
we
hear
from
the
applicant
that
most
of
them
are
are
addressable
and
we've
heard
from
the
city
that
that
they
are
something
that
the
city
can
work
with
zinni.
D
P
D
F
L
D
Q
D
Thanks
danica
and
thanks
for
everyone
from
the
community
who
weighed
in
on
this,
we
appreciate
it
peter
yeah.
Thank
you.
Okay,
great
all,
right!
Well,
awesome,
exciting,
okay!
So,
let's
move
on
then
to
matters
of
from
the
planning
board
any
any
first.
The
the
first
thing
we
have
under
matters
is
a
potential
dab,
tab,
review
and
concept
plan
review.
Charles,
do
you
want
to
kick
that
one
off
with
us
actually.
AF
AF
AF
AF
The
next
thing
that
we'll
be
doing
is
board
engagement,
and
that,
of
course,
is
with
you,
as
well
as
the
design
advisory
board
in
the
transportation
advisory
board.
To
get
your
input
about
how
you
feel
this
process
should
work,
and
the
purpose
here
is
to
get
feedback
from
you
about
how
the
concept
plan
process
can
be
improved.
Should
these
various
boards
have
a
collaborative
effort
together,
then
we're.
AF
AF
Well,
we
well
that
discussion.
That
slide
is
here
for
discussion
for
this
evening.
The
questions
that
you
may
have
we're
here
to
answer
them,
but
to
go
back
to
our
process,
outline
that
engagement
with
you
as
planning
board
members
and
with
the
other
boards
will
happen
in
our
next
step.
So
there
will
be
a
more
robust
engagement.
We'll
have
specific
questions
for
you
to
solicit
more
concrete.
J
AF
My
understanding
was
that
it
was
the
the
tab,
letters
that
precipitated
this
request.
So
that's
how
we
began
this
process.
Is
that
council
asked
us
to
investigate
this
from
those
letters
not
from
the
ones
that
you
had
requested
so
with
that
said,
I
think
that
it's
a
task
that's
before
us
to
determine
how
the
boards
can
work
together
to
improve
the
concept
plan
process.
If
we
feel
that,
in
fact,
that
can
be
done
if
that
coordination
can
influ
improve
the
concept
plan
process.
O
Yeah,
I
think
that's
where
it's
surfaced
most
recently,
but
it
has
been
an
ongoing
discussion.
I
think,
amongst
tab,
and
you
know
a
general
desire
to
get
involved
in
some
of
the
discretionary
work
that
the
board
does
to
help
support
better
connections,
access
and
mobility,
and
then
I
think
similarly,
I
think
it's
been
a
discussion
amongst
dab
for
quite
some
time
as
well
to
have
a
more
centralized
role
in
the
review
of
concept
plan
reviews.
F
J
No,
I
can
jump
in
because
I
think
I
confuse
things
by
saying.
I
asked
what
problem
we're
trying
to
solve,
and
then
I
made
a
joke.
That
is
it
because
we've
been
to
were
we
too
strident
in
our
letters
and
now
we
get
to
have
more
people
in
the
room
on
our
decisions,
and
so
I
was
again
levity.
Jacob
didn't
have
the
beauty
of
being
here
the
last
few
years,
so
he
would
may
not
know
that
of
the
letters.
But
that
was
somewhat
news
to
me
that
well
I
guess
it's
not.
F
Yeah
so
the
question
I
mean
the
question
really
is
for
jacob
to
to
to
clarify,
because
you
made
the
statement,
and
I
want
to
know
what
you
when
you
said,
the
this
came
from
from
them,
and
I
want
to
know
what
the
document
is,
so
that
I,
because
I'm
thinking
that,
if,
if
this
is
concerns
from
or
not
necessary
concerns,
but
this
is
something
that
they
want
to
work
on
and
they
see
a
need
for
it.
That,
for
from
the
planning
board
perspective,
we
also
put
forth
some
ideas
that
we
thought
we.
F
That
I
would
like
to
think
is.
There
is
a
space
where
maybe
the
way
that,
where
they're
coming
from
can
be
integrated
on
the
where
we're
coming
from
and
then
that
that
space
is
where
we
can
really
come
together
and
do
something
really
interesting,
especially
since
we
talked
about
you,
know,
innovation,
which
gives
us
space
into
doing
things
in
new
ways
and
the
other
one
is
with
the
equity,
which
is
very
important
to
us.
As
you
know,
so
I
I
think
this.
This
can
actually
work
really
well.
AF
Well,
lupita,
thank
you.
So
much,
that's
exactly
the
kind
of
feedback
that
we're
looking
to
hear
and
I
I
want
to
first
of
all,
just
let
you
know
that
I
hear
you
and
what
we
want
to
do
is.
First
of
all,
this
is
a
process
orientation,
we're
sort
of
letting
you
all
know
what
we're
going
to
do
in
our
next
round
of
work.
We
want
to
come
back
to
planning
board
into
the
other
boards
and
ask
you
for
exactly
that
input.
AF
We
want
to
hear
your
comments
on
what
you
think
should
happen
if
there
is
board
interaction
regarding
content
plan
review,
so
hear
you
loud
and
clear,
and
we
look
forward
to
taking
your
input
when
we
come
back
for
formal
for
formal
feedback,
so
so
hang
tight
and
the
next
time
we're
here
we'll
be
taking
notes
on
all
of
that
and
that
will
be
incorporated
into
our
report.
Council.
D
And
I'll
go
ahead,
and
I
I
have
some
history
with
this
subject.
I
think
it
was
gosh.
It
must
have
been
two
or
three
years
ago
in
our
retreat.
I
had
been
approached
by
some
folks
from
tab
about
increasing
our
interaction
and
we
decided
to
it
would
be
okay
to
just
kind
of
do
an
informal
liaison
to
tab.
D
So
I
just
started
to
go
as
a
you
know,
informally,
to
tab
meetings,
sit
in
the
audience
and
listen,
and
sometimes
I
would
get
up
and
make
a
little
durian
public
comment
make
a
statement,
and
I
and
they.
Let
me
know
during
that
period
of
time,
that
you
know
they.
They
felt
a
little
frustrated
with
the
restrictions
on
their
ability
to
weigh
in
on
land
use
issues
and
stuff,
but
sometimes
they
just
have
no
idea.
D
J
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
figure
out
how
all
the
voices
can
come
together.
I
love
lupita's
approach,
I'll
start
with
the
filter
of
what
is
it
that
we
in
our
heart
of
hearts,
as
each
board
said,
and
then
where's
our
synergy
and
like
what
david
said
that
a
group
that
a
group
of
volunteers
like
us
who
are
trying
to
do
something
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
and
then
looking
around
like
well.
Well,
that
does
that
doesn't
make
sense.
I
I
would
reiterate
what
david
said
about
there:
maybe
it's
a
reflection
of
silos
at
the
staff
in
the
staff
departments
because,
in
essence,
what's
presented
to
us
ultimately
has
feet
in
input
from
staff
from
all
the
different
departments.
But
if
that's
not
the
case
for
other
boards
or
commissions,
that's
problematic,
and
you
know
that
tab
doesn't
know
a
project's
coming
down
the
path,
the
path,
it's
all
public
knowledge.
So
it's
maybe
they're
not
informed
about
the
the
upcoming
projects.
AF
Well,
I
would
just
say
thank
you
to
all
the
board
members.
We
hear
your
input
and
we'll
be
returning
back
to
you
shortly,
as
well
as
to
the
other
boards
to
to
gain
further
feedback
from
you
and
then
we'll
proceed
with.
You
know
delving
deeper
into
this
topic,
ultimately,
with
the
goal
of
improving
the
quality
of
concept
plan
review,
as
we
move
forward
together,.
D
Well,
thank
you
jacob
thanks
for
staying
up
so
late
with
us
and
charles
and
cindy
as
well
and
hella.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
I
see
we
even
have
some
members
of
the
public.
Still
I'm
listening
and
thank
you
for
staying
up
with
us.
Do
we
have
any
other
matters
from
the
planning
board
that
we
need
to
discuss
tonight.
Anybody
any
any
manners
matters
from
charles
from
playing
director
or
from.
O
J
C
F
D
O
L
D
Well,
we
need
time
to
so.
We
will
need
probably
the
next
couple
of
weeks
for
the
next
planning
board
meeting
to
brainstorm
ideas.
For
what
we'd
like
to
see
covered
and
talk
about
that
and
matter
under
matters
in
the
next
board
meeting.
I
would
guess
right,
so
that
would
mean
we'd
move
out.
We'd
definitely
be
moving
into
like
mid
to
late
april
at
the
earliest.
I
would
guess.
E
I
wonder
if
staff
could
maybe
project
ahead
to
the
best
of
your
ability
as
to
what
evening
might
be
good.
You
know
if
there
looks
like
a
time
when
it
looks
like
a
lighter
lift
or
we
could
move
things
into
other
areas.
I
think
some
that
might
be
nice
to
just
kind
of
try
to
find
a
time.
That's
where
we.
M
W
D
AB
E
Way
too
much
to
talk
about,
I'm
wondering
if
I
mean
I
think
it
matters
what
our
calendar
is
like,
but
I
would
say
looking
out
to
may
for
staff
members
who
have
to
be
there
to
run
the
meeting.
Maybe
if
you
could
come
up
with
a
few
potential
dates
and
then
we
can
match
them
against
all
of
our
calendars
and
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
something
that
works.
D
That
sounds
good,
should
we
say
sometime
between
you
know,
maybe
the
week
of
may
well,
let's
see
we
have
a
planning
board
meeting
on
may
6th
and
may
20th.
So
maybe
the
week
of
the
10th
is
good
and
and
consider
afternoons
during
working
hours
that
sometime
the
week
of
the
10th,
and
then
we
could
just
try
to
settle
on
a
date.
Maybe
cindy.
W
I
L
D
E
I
E
D
Well,
maybe
we
can
know
more
on
the
11th
and
12th,
but
it
doesn't
I'm
pretty
sure
yeah
the
city's
been
pretty
careful
with
their
guidance,
so
we'll
see
we'll
have
to
take
our
marching
orders,
but
so
we'll
so
yeah.
Let's
the
other
thing
we
could
potentially
discuss
since
we're
looking
at
our
calendars
is
the
tentatively
thinking
about
when
we
would
want
to
recess
because
the
we
tend
this
year.
Actually
it
looks
kind
of
cool
we
have.
L
D
I
mean
what
we
could
do
for
now
is
just
say
you
know,
so
people
can
kind
of
plan
their
lives.
You
say
that
july
1st
is
kind
of
our
preferred
break
date
and
then
maybe
urge
staff
to
see
if
there's
any
possibility
of
having
a
lighter
schedule,
because
there's
three
thursdays
in
july.
So
if
we
potentially
could
get
away
with
just
doing
the
29th,
that
would
give
us
a
nice
long
break,
but
but.
L
D
M
We're
back
in
the
office
that
won't
happen
until
then,
okay,
yeah
there's,
we
tried
to
do
it
and
it
just
it
was
a
disaster.
It
was
the
plans,
went
it
took
me
all
day
to
find
them
the
wrong
addresses.
I
couldn't
find
them.
It
was
a
disaster.
It
was
all
right
and
then
I
tried
to
send
plans
on
the
the
code
book
updates.
U
D
I
D
E
I
I
think
certain
architectural
drawings
and
stuff
are
just
easier
to
see
in
hard
copy.
You
know
I
mean
I
I
don't
mind
that
I
can't
get
them
now.
If
I
have
to,
I
can
print
them
out
myself.
I
can
blow
them
up
real
big,
you
know
it's,
it's
not
a
huge
deal
but
yeah.
You
know
when
you
have
little
tiny
letters
and
little
tiny
buildings
and
things
it's
it's.
E
L
E
D
So,
hang
in
there
everyone,
the
other
yeah,
I
kind
of
agreed
with
the
paper
thing.
I
would
probably
be
inclined
to
continue
if
there's
an
option
to
do
it
electronically,
but
I
totally
understand
everyone
has
a
different
different
way
of
processing
information
and
so
it'll
be
nice
when
we
can
get
back
to
that,
to
more
normalcy,
all
right,
so
that
so
we
we
talked
about
the
retreat
dates.
We
talked
about
one
day
for
for
our.
What
do
we
call
it
break?
There's
some
so
is.