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jean
gatza,
moderator,
(she/her):,
very
good,
okay,
so
with
our
virtual
meetings,,
we
have
a
set
of
protocol
is
adopted
by
the
city
that
helps
us
keep
our
virtual
meetings
or
early
and
efficient.
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Cob,
jean
gatza,
moderator
(she/her):,
you
can
let
us,.
Let
us
know
that
you
would
like
to
speak,
using
the
raise
hand,
function
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
You
won't
see
an
unmute
option
until
we
adjust
that
setting,,
but
once
we
do
once
it's
your
turn,
well,
you'll
see
a
way
to
unmute.
So
don't
worry
that
will
be
there.
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jean
gatza,
moderator,
(she/her):,
the
q
amp,
a
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
board
members
and
staff
should
not
be
looking
at
that.
So
just
like,
if
we
weren't
meeting
in
person,,
you
can't
be
slipping
notes
to
folks,
so
please
use
chat
or
they
are
q&a
only
for
technical
issues.
Let's
see
anything
else.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:,
the
courts
are
located
on
both
sides
of
the
creek
and
are
currently
used
by
the
rocky
mountain
tennis
center
cu,
boulder
women's
tennis
and
some
other
recreational
groups,.
The
courts
on
the
north
side
are
the
majority
of
the
courts
are
covered
by
a
temporary
cover
in
the
colder
months.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:,
and
I
would
just
note
at
this
point
that
stuff
does
have
concerns
about
the
amount
of
parking
reduction,
proposed.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:
in
addition,
and
diversity
of
housing
types
is
a
core
value
of
the
comprehensive
plan,.
There
is
principally
a
need
for
housing
for
students
near
the
university
which
the
addition
of
295
student
apartments
think
in
close
proximity
to
the
university
would
be
consistent
with
that
intent.
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david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
Thank
you
I'm
great.
So
I
see,
god
is
unmuted,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
boy.
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jorge
boone:,
you
want
to
kick
yeah.
My
question
is
in
regards
to
the
city's
overall
view
and
goals
around
the
front
edge
on
street.
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Pb,
john
gerstle:
yeah
mike
question
isn't
dealing
with
28
street
frontage,
but
it's
might
be
interested
in
the
cities,
regulations
or
guidelines
or
desires,
with
respect
to
the
pedestrian
path
on
the
river
corridor
and
what
sort
of
considerations
and
limitations,.
So
we
should
be
aware
of
in
this
respect.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:,
we
do
know,,
I
mean
it's
an
existing
easement,,
but
I
can
imagine,
as
part
of
this
review,
that
there
might
be
changes
necessary
to
that
easement
or
or
just
that.
That's
not
clear
at
this
point.
So
if
you
have
any
concerns
that
we
should
be
aware
of,
this
would
be
the
point
to
identify
those.
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sarah
silver:,
I
have
a
couple
questions,.
I
want
to
follow
up
on
leases,,
so
this
is
a
obviously
a
very
difficult.
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J
Cob
sloane
walbert:
this
case
are
the
conveyance
and
high
hazard
zones.
That's
what
you're
showing
sort
of
surrounding
that
little
hole
in
the
middle
of
the
site,.
They
would
not
be
able
to
build
a
parking
structure
in
that
that
area,
they
could
integrate
it
into
their
buildings
that
they're
proposing.
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Pb
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jorge
boone:.
I
had
a
question
in
light
of
the
recent
fire
that
we
had
in
boulder
these
building
seem.
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sloane
walbert:.
Well
what
I
am
not
an
expert,,
but
what
I
would
say
is
any
development
proposal
is
reviewed
by
our
fire
marshal
david
lowery.
He
has
reviewed
this
for
access.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:,
I
don't
believe
it's
to
meet
the
open
space,
necessarily
their
their
actual
building
is
located
in
the
area.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
don't
preserve
those
that.
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
the
public,
to
hear
hear
a
comment
on
that.
If
you
have,
if
you
can
share
any
anything
about
any
any
levers
that
the
city
has
to
look
at
that
and
whether
we
can
even
look
at
at
how
we
accommodate
tennis
across
the
city.
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Cob
sloane
walbert:
sure,.
So
again
I
think
we're
pretty
conceptual
at
this
level,.
So
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
a
plan
showing.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:
just
for
people,
people's
planning
purposes.
So
with
that
we
have
with
us,,
I
think
jason
doornbos
jason.
Will
you
be.
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Rob
turk,
applicant:
opportunity
to
work
with
the
community
and
boulder
in
are
eager
to
deliver
a
project
that
not
only
benefits
our
residents,
but
also
the
larger
community
as
well,,
so
again,.
Thank
you
for
the
time
and
at
this
point,
I
will
hand
it
off
to
david
about.
With
travel
strategy
group.-.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
ability
to
own
both
sides
of
the
creek
to
really
look
at
this
site
holistically
and
not
it's
just
the
north
or
south
side
of
boulder
creek.
We're
excited
for
this
tradition
to
continue
with
new
vibrant
improvements,
and
we
think
this
will
be
a
great
public
space.
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architects,
applicant:,
okay,
danica
and
good
evening,.
As
a
member
of
cpu
system,
wide
design
review
board,
I've
been
involved
in
the
review
of
sees
the
30
year.
Master
plan
contest
plan
illustrates
that
plans.
Recommendations
for
future
has
in
north
of
boulder
creek,,
as
you
can
see,
with
the
orange
building.
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architects,,
applicant:
and
other
circulation
elements
are
relocation
of
the
multi
use
path
off
of
the
creek
excellence
mentioned.
This
allows
better
engagement
to
the
create
crooked
austrians.
It
moves
by
cough
backs
up
the
pathway
of
with
the
smoother
connection
to
the
bridge,
with
the
current
type
term.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
and
then
it's
actually
privately
maintained
at
the
moment,.
So
it's
a
public
access
easement
with
private
maintenance,,
but
but
we'll
be
looking
at
that,
through
the
site
review,.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
interested
in
the
creek
and
the
banks
of
the
creek.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:
how
much
happens
there,,
but
I
definitely
would
take
that
under
advisement
to
research
that
and
work
with
them.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:.
When
we
met
with
dave
lowery,
he
was
actually
happy
to
see
that
it
was
being
replaced
because
it's
not
probably
more
similar
to
that
older
apartment
building
is
not
a
very
safe
building
it's,,
and
so
I
think
he
was
very
happy
to
have
better
fire
access
in
new
construction
and.
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Claudia
hanson,
thiem:
second,,
please
consider
the
request
to
place
the
building
fronts
on
the
interior
and
creek
facing
sides
of
the
buildings,
rather
than
that
28th
street
frontage.
I
know
the
comp
plan
is
committed
to
activating
street
interfaces,
but
anyone
who
moves
along
that
28th
street
corridor
already.
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Lynn,
segal:
housing
was
services,,
services
are
leaving.
You
just
voted
for
folsom
and
pearl
to
lose
all
those
services.
You
just
did
the
same
thing
with
21st
and
pearl
all
the
services
gone,
the
thrift
stores
gone,
the
furniture
stores
gone
everything,
gone,
housing,
housing,
housing,
high
end
housing.
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Rosie
fivian
aia:,
this
is.
lynn,
segal:
utterly
ridiculous,.
You
know
they
bought
on
a
friggin
flood
zone,.
They
bought
it,.
They
have
to
deal
with
it,,
you
know,
oh,,
we
got
three
feet,.
We
have
to
bring
it
up,,
so
we
need
a
height
exemption.
Know
you
bought
in
a
friggin.
Floodplain
live
with
it
deal
with
it.
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david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
Thank
you
megan
all
right.
We
have
two
new
hands
that
have
gone
up,.
We
have
ivan
or
even
design,,
followed
by
heather
kroger.
So
I'm
ivan
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself
when
you're
ready.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
so
with
that,,
since
I
don't
see
any
more
hands,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
go
back
to
our
applicants
and
see.
If
you
would
like
to
spend
two
to
three
minutes,
just
addressing
anything
that
you
heard
from
the
public
and
danica,
I
see
that
you've.
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Cob
sloane
walbert::
that's
because
they're
not
sees
them
all,.
My
understanding
is,
they
would
be
allowed
to
remain
as
long
as
no
modifications,
would.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
What
we're
looking
at
figure
to
it
kind
of
made
me
so
sad
because
I'm
a
huge
fan
of
mid
century,,
modern,
and
that
was
such
a
beautiful
look.
I
am
from
1959
the
year
I
was
born,
but
I,
you
know,.
None
of
us
have
ever
seen
that
and
when
buildings
are
modified
so
much.
I
understand
why
our.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
and
things
like
that,
so
so,
let's
try
to
preserve
the
historic
uses
that
are
diverse
and
interesting
in
that
area
that
everybody
passes
all
the
time.
With
regards
to
the
tennis
courts,,
I
was
in
talking
more
about
that
in
open,
space,,
but.
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A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
and
I
just
if
we
can
not
dumb
it
down
too
much.
You
know.
I
know
that
it's
probably
considered
kind
of
crazy,
unsafe
space
in
some
ways,,
but
it
is
one
deep
spot
in
the
creek
where
people
really
have
a
lot
of
fun
and
and
people
do
it
in
a
way
that
isn't
totally
programmed
so.
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Pb,
lupita
d
montoya:
and
manage
that
we
don't
have
anywhere
else,,
apparently
been
at
the
state
level.
So
it
that's
what
I
find
it
difficult,,
because
I
have
a
hard
time
reconciling
this
very
two
extremes
in
my
mind.
F
Pb,
lupita
d
montoya:-
I
just
I
would
just
leave
it
at
that,,
because
I'm
struggling
with
this
particular
piece
and
I'll
be
happy
to
continue
to
listen
and
see
how
you
know.
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Pb,
lupita
d
montoya:.
What
can
kind
of
recommendations
we
can
make,,
but
certainly,
if
there's
a
way
that
this
site
can
be
making
more
affordable,
of
course,
affordable
for
the
living,.
But
you
can
make
the
university
affordable,.
So
you
know
again
we're
gonna
get
we're
gonna,
send
kind
of
people
in
there.
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C
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
yes,
okay,
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
Yeah.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
I
know,,
not
all
of
them
will
do
that,,
and
some
of
them
will
be
wealthy
enough
to
afford
to
buy
their
spaces
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,.
But
I
do
think
that
the
management
plan
can
can
address
a
lot
of
this
in
order
to
make
us
more
comfortable
with
the
parking
reduction.
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Pb
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jorge
boone:,
okay,
so
I'm
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
the
the
area
of
the
site
and
thinking
about
the
parking
and.
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Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
So
but
you
know
I,
but
that
doesn't
mean
I
don't
mean
to
under
under
minute
what
your
points
or
anything
but
but,.
But
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
original
height
limits
were
55
feet
and
that
we've
imposed
35
feet
over
the
years,,
but
but.
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N
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah,,
I
think,
overall,
the
proposed
building
had
given
what
splits
there,,
but,
although
again,
this
is
not
tied
to
my
what
sarah
said,,
because
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point
as
well,
and
I
appreciate
you,
bringing
it
forward.
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N
N
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
you
know,,
and
I
don't
think
it's
a
at
this
point.
It's
not
terribly
well
bill
too
terribly
safe
return
will
be
well
utilized
building,.
So
I
am
very
excited
that
we
see
something
coming
forward
on
this
site
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
more
defined
architectural
ideas
when
it
returns.
A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
thank
you,
I
see
peters
hand
up
and
then
georgie.
I
think
one
peter.
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Pb,
peter
vitale:
well,,
despite
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
detail.
The
applicant
made
common
a
lot
of
reference
to
the
first
floor
glass
approach,
which
I
like,
and
I
want
to
see
more
of,
and
I
think
that
kind
of
nice
manner,.
Oh
echo,
works
well
with
the
building,
that's
being
torn
down.
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E
E
K
K
K
K
Pb
,
jorge
boone:.
I
thought
the
the
talk
about
okay,.
Where
do
we
put
this
tennis
facility?
If
it's
not
there,,
I
I
just
don't
know
if
we
have
that
capacity
as
boulder
to
relocate
this
and
the
time
period
that
those
people
need
to
keep
those
businesses
and
those
activities
alive
for
that
entire
community.
N
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah,
I'm
just
going
to
say
a
couple
more
things
about
tenants
that
I
think
we
may
have
seen.
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AI
cob,
charles
ferro,
(he/him):
david,,
as
you
mentioned,
as
as
the
board
may
recall,
staff
was
before
you
last
month
under
matters
to
introduce
the
proposed
oil
and
gas
regulations
which
has
been
in
the
works
for
some
time
now,.
So
we're
pleased
to
be
before
you
this
evening
with
a
comprehensive
set
of
draft.
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H
Pb,
john
gerstle:,
but
uh.
pb,
john
gerstle:
in
the
in
the
draft
breaks,.
I
understand
that
the
applicant
has
to
provide
a
bunch
of
information
to
the
city,,
including
their
you
know,
past
record
of
violations
and
so
on,,
but
to
what
degree,
does
the
city,
can
the
city
and
look
at
that
record
and
decide
that
that.
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AK
AK
AK
Elizabeth
paranhos:
yes,,
because
you
have
your
own
regulations
to
do
cc,
is
applying
its
regulations,.
They
are
not
the
same
as
the
city
is
regulations,.
They
have
different
authority.
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H
pb,
john
gerstle:,
I'm
trying
to
understand.
pb,
john
gerstle:
there's
also
some
statements
there
about
what
happens
a
if
there's
a
spill
and
be
that
there's
some
opportunity
to
put
controls
on
what
fluids,
and
so
on
the
drillers
use
in
their
drilling
underground.
And
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
that
relates
to
the
state.
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AK
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AK
H
H
H
Pb,
john
gerstle:
well,,
I
I
love
it,
but
anyway,
maybe
you
I
don't
mean
to
doc.
You
guys
can
go
and
then
all
coming
down.
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Cob
karl
guiler:
is
that
there's
really
three
locations
where
there
could
be
eligible
location,
so
there's
a
flagpole
area
that
goes
east
to
west
that
connects
the
northern
part
of
boulder
over
to
gun
barrel,.
There
are
some
agricultural
sites
there
that
would
be
eligible,.
It
looks
like
there's
some
land.
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AJ
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AK
Elizabeth
paranhos:,
I
guess
the
one
thing
I
can
say
on
that
is
what
we
are
seeing
in
colorado,
is.
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A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
We
would
love
to
hear
from
the
public
any
comments
that
you
have
on,
on
the
proposal
before
us.
For
this
ordinance.
I
see
that
we
have
for
attendees
still
hanging
in
with
us
here.
Does
anyone
want
to
raise
their
hand
and
address
us
for
three
minutes
on
this
on
this
issue.
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Lynn,
segal:
to
continue
the
franchise
but
anyway.
A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:
thank
you,.
Thank
you,
lynn.
You
can
go
a
little
bit
more,
if
you
have
anything
else,,
otherwise,
we'll.
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G
A
A
A
A
A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
codified
in
a
way,
that's
considered
fact
fair
and
takes
into
account
public
health
is
much
more
defensible,.
So
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
thing
to
see
us
do
as
the
moratorium
expires,
and
I
see
it,
moving
us
into
a
great
space.
Anyone
else,
want
to
comment
on
this
or.
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A
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A
A
A
A
A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
I
did
it
last
year
on
the
first
pass,
so
I'm
sarah
and
the
pita
I'll
just
hand
it
over
to
you
to
comment
on
anything
you
would
like
to.
With
regards
to
the
november
12
meeting
any
prep
you'd
like
us
to
do,
and
any
thoughts,,
you
have
on
how
we
might
make
progress
on
this.
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O
Pb,
sarah
silver:
do
you.
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Cob
jacob
lindsey:
and
I
think
that's
what
we
can
realistically
deliver.
So
there's
been
some
generalizations,
but
I
don't
think
that
we're
back
to
pre
pandemic
levels
of
productivity
or
staff
levels,
frankly.
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A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:
great
well,,
given
that
I
think
you
know
what
I've
heard
them
from
this
discussion
is
that.
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A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
that's
great
and
then
cindy.
Oh,
if,
if
we
put
this
then
on
the
mural
in
advance
of
the
meeting,,
is
it
okay?
If
we
share
that
mural
with
the
entire
board,
like
on.
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A
A
A
Pb,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:,
but
if
we
started
to
put
these
ideas
on
the
mural,
is
it
okay
to
share
that
the
thing
is,?
If
you
send
the
link
out
to
the.
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hella
pannewig,
-senior
assistant
city
attorney:,
only
leases
that
are
three
years
or
longer
require
council
approval,.
So
one
of
the
other
things
that
cancelled
record
step
to
do
is
to
bring
back
an
ordinance
that
changes
that
so
that
comes
up
would
always
be
involved
in
the
approval
of
the
least
like.
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Cob,
cindy
spence:
of
course,,
we
have
a
meeting
on
the
12th,,
which
is
a
friday,
from
nine
to
11
and
then
on
the
18th.
We
only
have
one
public
hearings
scheduled
at
this
time.
We
did
have
two,,
but
now
we
have
one
on
the
18th
and
sarah,
I
you
told
me,,
you
were
going
to
be
out.
That's
correct,
okay.
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AI
A
C
O
O
Pb,
sarah
silver:
of
use
requirements,
the
way
there
are
for
dormitories,
fraternities
and
sororities
it
just
strikes
me
like
this
is
a
whole
new.
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A
AL
AL
Cob
jacob
lindsey:
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
did.
We
did
hear
that
last
year,
and
that
has
been
factored
in,
and
also
hear
your
suggestions
about
student
housing
as
well,.
I
think
that's
something
that
again.
If
we
have
the
ability,,
any
number
of
staff
planners
would
be
thrilled
to
dig
into
a
project.