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Sarah
huntley:,
as
as
always
planning
board,
will
be
starting
with
open
comment
from
community
members.,
so
we
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
public
participation
will
look
like
in
this
meeting.
amanda.
Brenda
tells
me
that
you
have
the
slides
queued
up
as
part
of
the
presentation..
Is
that
correct?.
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Sarah
huntley:,
while
we're
waiting
for
the
slides.,
perhaps
if,
if
it's
okay
with
you,
john,,
I'd
like
to
introduce
a
new
support
staff
person
for
your
help,
planning
board
and
community
engagement
and
planning
in
general.,
she's
shadowing
me
tonight,
so
she
can
see
how
this
process
works.
but
she'll,
be
supporting
you
in
the
space
of
the
future..
Is
that
okay,?
If
I
do
that,
while
amanda's
pulling
up
the
slides.,
that's
fine,
awesome.,
so
vivian
popped
up
on
the
screen.,
here.
vivian
and
cassra
wldrich
is
the
newest
member
of
our
engagement.
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Sarah
huntley:
team
super
excited
to
have
her..
She
comes
with
an
extensive
planning
background,
supporting
projects
in
the
international
context,,
which
is
really
interesting
in
a
variety
of
different
countries
and
in
different
types
of
projects.,
but
she's
coming
to
us
from
the
private
sector,
and
is
eager
to
be
lending
her
skill
and
her
facilitation
and
engagement
planning,
expertise
to
the
private
sector..
So
we're
delighted
to
have
her
for
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
jean
gasses.
she's
got
some
big
shoes
to
fill,,
because
maybe,.
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B
Sarah
huntley:,
I'm
sure
she's
drinking
by
the
fire
host.,
but
she
was
going
to
shadow
me,
so
that
at
future
planning
board
meetings.
She
can
provide
this
level
of
assistance.
if
the
topics
are
tech,
more
complex,
and
if
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
public
participation,.
So
please
join
me
in
welcoming
vivian.
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B
Sarah
huntley:
okay.,
so
as
I
mentioned,,
we
are
going
to
start
this
meeting
with
open
comment,
and
then
I
believe
there
could
be
public
participation
at
other
points
in
the
meeting
with
public
hearings
depending
on
the
agenda,,
and
we
just
want
our
participants
to
know
that
we
are
really
trying
to
lean
into
a
vision.
That's
been
co-created
by
community
and
by
city
staff
to
create
productive,,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
civic
conversations..
The
vision
is
really
designed
to
promote
free
conversation
and
dialogue,,
while
also
recognizing
that
we
want
to
make
sure.
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Sarah
huntley:
sure
everybody
who's
participating
feels
both
physically
and
emotionally
safe,
and
that
we're
allowing
for
lots
of
different
viewpoints
and
identities
and
ages
and
perspectives
in
our
meetings,
because
we
think
it
leads
to
more
form
decision
making..
We
have
a
lot
of
information
on
our
website
about
what
we
call
our
productive
atmosphere's
vision,
if
you're
interested
in
more
detail.,
but
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
bit
specific
about
what
this
means
for
this
meeting..
There
are
a
number
of
rules
of
deform
that
are
found
in
the
border.
B
Sarah
huntley:
code,
and
we
have
some
general
guidelines,
just
sort
of
advisory
in
nature
to
share
with
public
participants
this
evening
as
well
as
board
members..
This
applies
to
staff
for
members
and
the
community..
We're
asking
that
all
remarks
and
testimony
tonight
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
city
business..
We
will
not
allow
any
participants
to
make
threats,
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person
in
this
session.
obscenity,,
racial
epithets,
and
other
speech
and
behavior.
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B
B
Sarah
huntley:
on
your
screen.
you'll
see
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
do.
This.
at
the
very
bottom
of
your
screen.
You
should
see
a
horizontal
menu
that
has
three
items.
right
in
the
middle
is
something
that
looks
like
a
little
hand..
If
you
click
on
that,,
that
will
raise
your
hand
next
to
your
name,.
You
also
can
get
to
it.
if
you
have
a
expanded
screen
that
shows
reactions,
as
just
shows
here..
If
you
click
on
that,,
there's
also
a
raised
hand.,
but
there
may
be
some
people
participating
by
phone..
B
B
Sarah
huntley:
and
next
to
your
phone
number,
it
will
put
a
little
raised
hand.,
so
chairman
and
gerssel
can.
Let
me
know
that
you
would
like
to
be
able
to
speak.
um!.
I
see
somebody
has
already
raised
their
hand,
and
I'm
hoping
that's
an
anticipation
of
the
public
hearing
which
we'll
get
to
in
just
a
minute.
we're
not
doing
any
interpretation
of
this
meeting
tonight..
So
there's
no
need
for
me
to
go
over.
how
to
access
different
languages,
amanda..
It
would
be
helpful
as
host
if
you
would
turn
on
the
live
transcripts..
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A
Sarah
huntley:
okay?
well,
thank
you.,
then
we'll
bring
that
portion
of
this
meeting
to
a
close,,
and
we
next
on
our
agenda
is
discussion
of
dispositions
and
call
ups,,
but
I
see
that
there
are
none
before
us.
Tonight,.
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B
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:,
the
annexation,
is
a
process
by
which
plan
is
incorporated
into
municipal
boundaries
in
terms
of
the
review,
processes
and
criteria.
Land
may
be
considered
for
annexation.
if
the
proposal
complies
with
state
annexation
statutes,,
as
well
as
the
bbcp
policies,.
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
policy.,
one
point,
one:
seven
state
cities
will
actively
pursue
an
exhibition
of
substantial,,
substantially
developed
area,
two
properties.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
additionally,
in
twenty
twenty
essential
kitchen
was
added
on
the
property
expanding
city
services,,
which
was
also
one
of
the
turners.
for
this
annexation,,
and
the
affordable
housing.
modular
factory,
is
in
partnership
between
the
city
of
boulder.,
ah,,
parents,,
habitat
for
humanity
and
the
boulder
valley,
school
district,.
F
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
include
municipal
and
public
utility
services,
as
well
as
educational
facilities,
government
offices
in
a
range
of
public
and
private
nonprofit
uses.
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
ah!
in
terms
of
the
initial
zoning,,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
public
key
zoning
consistent
with
the
existing
conditions
of
the
property,.
So
public
areas
in
the
cities
in
which
it's
defined
as
areas
in
which
public
and
semi-public
facilities.
F
Cob,
shabnam,
bista:
um.,
so
in
terms
of
the
first
authentication
term,
bbsc.
is
recognized
as
a
sovereign
entity
under
state
law,
and
will
not
be
required
to
comply
with
city
zoning..
This
means
that
all
new
construction,,
remodeling,
and
renovation
is
permitted
through
the
state
and
not
through
the
city,.
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
additionally,,
the
agreement
states
that
future
owners
are
not
considered..
Future
owners
of
this
parcel
will
not
be
considered
sovereign
entities,
and
will
be
required
to
meet
the
city's
inclusionary
housing
requirements
for
potential
development,
and
then
number
five..
The
boulder
valley,
school
district.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
in
terms
of
the
policies.,
the
boulder
rally
comprehensive
plan
policies,
the
staffines,
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
policies..
The
annexation
will
allow
the
expansion
of
city,
water
and
sewer
services
on
the
property..
The
site
is
also
located
in
area
two,
and
therefore.
F
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
lastly,
in
terms
of
zoning,
cob,,
shabnam
bista:.
If
a
property's
annex,
zoning
will
be
established
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
land.
use,
math
and
of
the
bbc.,
as
described
before,
the
entire
site
is
designated
as
public
and
semi-public
within
the
gold
valley.
comprehensive
plan.
F
F
F
Cob,
shabnam
bista:
ah!
to
conclude
staff
findings
and
recommendations.
that
find
the
proposed
annexation
to
be
consistent
with
the
state
statues,
as
well
as
the
bbcp
policies
and
staffines
at
the
initial
zoning
of
public
is
consistent
and
appropriate
for
the.
A
pb,
john
gerstle:,
so
pb
john
gerstle:
open
up
for
questions
from
the
board.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
entity,,
it
will
be.,
it
will
go
through
a
state
process
for
any
constructions
or.
G
H
Cob,,
charles
ferro
(he/him):
yeah,,
can
you
hear
me?
yeah,
hella
pannewig,
cao:
okay,
yeah,,
when
the
company's
annex,?
It
also
has
to
be
zoned..
So
that's
why
the
p.
zoning
designation
is
applied,
and
generally
school
districts
are
not
subject
to
city
zoning
and
city
construction
codes
in
an
annexation.,
sometimes.
H
H
H
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
partnership
between
the
city,,
the
habitat,
and
the
boulder
belly
school
district
is
only
for
ten
years
on
that
factory,
or.
I
I
I
G
I
I
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
pb
ml
robles:
on
the
same
on
the
same
subject,
is
the.
G
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:
is
operating
in
the
factory,
and
that
and
the
city
is
providing
the
funding
to
build.
It.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
thank
you,,
john
shannon..
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.,
really
appreciate
it
very
clear..
This
is
probably
a
question
for
jay,
because
it
sounds
like
jay..
You
have
a
lot
of
the
history
on
this
project..
I
would
like
to
know
more
of
the
history
of
this
project,,
particularly
around
this
modular
factory
like..
How
did
this
come?
About?
proposed
this
collaboration
between
the
city
and
habitat
and
the
school
district,
to
use
a
modular
factory
as
it
sounds
like
it's
like
vocational
training
or
a
teaching
kind
of
experience
for
the
high
school
students.
J
I
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:,
but
it
took
a
lot
of
commitment
from
to
have
free
humanity,
as
well
as
the
school
district,
to
actually
come
together..
So
we
signed
a
memorandum
of
intense.
K
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:,
as
well
as
the
trades.,
so
through
this
partnership,
those
students
will
be
able
to
walk
two
or
three
minutes
to
the
factory..
Get
that
experience
on
traditionally..
What
they
would
do
is
they
would
get
on.
the
the
students
would
get
on
the
bus,
travel
to
wherever
a
habitat
site
was,
and
get
their
experience.
That
way.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
no,
that
was
great,
jay,
thank
you..
I
have
just
one
more
question..
I
think
I
heard
you
say
that
this
is
this
factory
is
going
to
be
non-profit..
I
know
it's
operated
by
a
nonprofit
habitat.,
but
what
is
the
financial
like??
Is
anybody
making
a
profit
off
of
this?,
or
is
this
truly
a
nonprofit
educational,
use?.
I
I
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:
at
much
lower
cost..
So
that's
really
the
the
other
impetus
behind
it.
I
L
Pb,,
jorge
boone:,
quick
question
relative
to
the
zoning
and
the
sovereignty
of
bbsd
and
the
long
term
sort
of
what
could
happen
on
this
site?
um,.
Specifically,
I'm
thinking
about.
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:,
when
we
went
through
the
cu.
south
and
annexation
uh,,
and
there
were
the
city
height
limitations
that
were
put
on
the
cu.
south
annexation,,
even
though
there
is
sovereign
entity
from
what
I
call
the
hell,
it
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
um.
what?
what
exists
here,
as
it
relates
to
tight
limitations,.
L
H
H
H
Hella
pannewig,
cao:
the.
H
L
H
L
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:
height
limitations
that
were
put
on
that
property
relative
to
that
annexation.,
and
just
if,
if,
if
someone
could
pull
that
for
us,,
and
let
us
understand
what
was
proposed
in
there,,
I
think
that
would
be
informative
for
us
relative
to
this
annexation,,
especially
since
we
have
a
number
of
board
members
who
are
fresh.
at
this..
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah.
um..
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
I
read
with
interest.
um,
because
I
know
that
there's
excel
transmission
lines
that
run
through
overhead
there,
and
it
looks
like
the
building
envelope
gets
pretty
close
to
it,
and
if
there
were
some
comments
from
excel
regarding
that.
um..
My
first
question
is
just
to
staff.
C
I
I
I
C
C
I
Pb,
lisa
smith:
like
envelope.
so
yeah,,
you
can't
go
too
high.
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
site
or
just
adjacent
to
the
eastern.
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
and
another
question
just
around
kind
of
the
proposed
buffer..
I
know
there's
a
new
wetland
and
the
two
different
designations
for
wetland,
and
then
also
a
proposed
buffer
for
the
neighborhood
to
the
south
ridgely
a
hills,-
and
I
think,
maybe
there's
also-
I
don't
remember,
there's
also
buffer
for
the
reserve.
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
is
that
contiguous,
with
existing
open
space
is
the
idea
that
that
would
be
designated
osmp
land?,
or
is
it
just
a
buffer
that
would
be
required
in
the
annexation,
agreement,
or
like,?
How?
How
would
that
land
be
managed,
or
who
would
own
it.
I
F
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
like?
would
that
be
in
the
annexation
agreement.?
I
guess
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
it
pulled
up
in
front
of
me.
but
like
is,?
Is
that
a
requirement
of
annexation
that
when
that
buffer,
would
be
there,
and
that
it
would
be
maintained
indefinitely.
or
is
it
just
a
recommendation
from
long-range
planners,
saying,?
We
think
you
should
have
a
buffer
against
a
residential
neighborhood.
I
I
I
O
Glen
segrue:,
I'm
not
aware
of
a
proposal
as
a
part
of
our
our
our
u.
j.
that
we
propose
a
specific
buffer
other
than
the
wetlands
that
were
identified,
and,
of
course
the
wetlands
would
be,
you
know,
are
regulated.
O
C
A
Pb,
lisa
smith:
okay,
uh,
pb
john
gerstle:.
I
see.
there's
more
questions
coming
up,,
but
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
myself
before
we
circle
around
again..
First
of
all,
jay,.
You
mentioned
the
beginning
of
your
presentation
that
you're
acting
here
as
a
consultant
to
the
the
school
district,,
but
I
I
know
you're
also
an
employee
of
the
city..
So.
I
I
A
H
A
I
I
I
I
O
Glen
segrue:
and
if
I
can
add
two
with
the
iga
and
the
school
district,,
has
experience
with
joint
agreements.
um,,
not
with
modular
factories,
but
with
many
other
things,
athletic
facilities
in
particular.
so.,
so
we're,
you
know,,
pretty
knowledgeable
at
crafting
an
arrangement
so
that
every
so
that
everybody's
responsibilities
are
very
clear..
A
G
Pb
ml
robles:-
I
do
thank
you,
john.,
still
kind
of
on
that
same
subject.,
so.
G
G
G
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
and
as
as
you're
describing,,
maybe
I'm
not
understanding
how
they're
going
to,,
how
they're
going
to
run
that
as
a
teaching
facility,.
So
those
are
my
two
questions.,
I'm
just
concerned.
who's
who's,
really
developing
that
site?
and
um,
is
it,
in
fact,,
going
to
create
the
community
benefit
of
giving
us.
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
pb
ml
robles:,
significant
amounts
of
affordable
housing.,
given
that
it's
on
a
model
of
a
teaching
facility.
I
I
I
I
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:
so.-
I
don't
know,
hopefully
that
helps
address
some
of
your
concerns.,
but
the
rest
of
your
we're
going
to
protect
our
interest
and
make
sure
that
you
know
this
factory
fulfills
the
promise
that
we
we
think
it
will,
and
I
think
the
school
district
has
state
of
that
intent,
and.
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:,
that's
about
all!
I
can
say
cob
jay
sugnet:
that
I
can
add
in..
I
mean,.
We
already
have
a
constructions
trade
program
that
can
slide
very,
very
seamlessly
into
this,,
and
it's
going
to
be
right
next
door
to
it,
and
we
have
staff
and
teachers
that
experience.
so
we're
not
starting
from.
O
G
I
I
J
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:,
so
glen
can
also
probably
answer
fun.
I
J
O
O
O
A
F
N
N
Cob,
charles
ferro
(he/him):,
where
we
were
issuing
um..
If,
if
applicants
could
meet
the
requirements
for
everything
from
single
family,
detached
tones
and
duplexes
up
to
these
sort
of
um,,
you
know
large
scale
facilities,
with
the
understanding
that,
if
we
ever
did
want
to
call
in
that
agreement,.
N
Cob,,
charles
ferro
(he/him):
um!,
if
anything,
were
to
change
on
a
property
that
we
could,
and
that's
exactly
what
happened
in
this
particular
case..
The
school
board
was
looking
at
some
campus
planning,
wanting
to
upsize
a
waterline
to
support
some
expansions
to
the
kitchen
facilities
that
exist
on
the
campus,.
I
think.
um,.
N
N
Cob,,
charles
ferro
(he/him):,
in
a
certain
era
where.
N
A
A
Pb
john
gerstle:
okay,
pb
john
gerstle:.
I
don't
see
any.
so
pb
john
gerstle:.
I
think,
we'll
move
ahead
to
the
applicant's
presentation.
If
there
is
one.
I
A
L
Pb,,
jorge
boone:,
yeah,
um.,
a
quick
question
was
in
the
discussions
with
the
city
regarding
the
annexation..
Was
there
any
discussion
on
height,
limitation,
and
does
the
applicant
have
any
issue
with
putting
a
height
limitation,
the
charter
tight
limitation
of
the
city
in.
O
Pb,
jorge
boone:
yeah.
for
the
site.,
so
the
chartered
cities,
the
the
city's
charter
height
limit,
is
fifty
five
feet.
Direct.
charles.
L
N
L
O
O
Glen
segrue:
has
some
portions
that
are
two
stories
as
well,
and
I
imagine
I'm
trying
to
find
those
numbers
right
now,,
but
I
imagine
those
were
probably
closer
to
forty
feet.
and
I
there's
certainly
nothing
envisioned.
that
we're
we're
mastering
the
campus
right
now..
That
would
be
approaching
fifty,
five
feet,,
but
as
a
general
rule,
um,,
you
know,
in
without
any
kind
of
specific
planning
process
that
we're
involved
in,
we're
not
going
to
commit
to.
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:
okay,
that
that's
helpful.
I
mean
just
just
to
be
clear..
This
you
south,
has
same
similar
sovereignty,
issues,
and
they
they
came
to
that
conclusion,
even
without
fully
planning
their
site,,
because
it
was
important
to
the
citizens
of
the
city
and
our
charter..
So
um!
that'll
be
something
I'll
be
looking
forward.
To,,
uh,
uh,
so
appreciate
your
consideration
on
that.
thank
you.
C
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
but
we
give
up
a
great
deal
of
control
as
a
city
of
folder
over
a
lot
of
things
that
that
happen,
because
because
of
your
summer
entity.
and
so
questions
about
height,
limits,
or,.
In
my
case
I'm
going
to
ask
about
kind
of
where
you're
envisioning,
developing..
I'm
curious
about
you
know,.
When
you're
talking
about
that
master
plan,
or
when
we
talk
about
approving
annexation..
Have
you
considered
establishing
buffers
or
areas
that
you
know
you
wouldn't
develop?
for
example,
on
the
other
side
of
the
wetlands?.
C
O
Glen
segrue:
well,,
I
mean
I
can't
glen
segrue:
speak
to
the
decades
to
come,,
but
I
mean
our
our
immediately
master
planning
process..
We
are
looking
at
it,
looking
at
our
needs.
Now.
and,,
as
you
know,
we're
not
a
growing
school
district,.
So
we're
not
looking
at
you
know,
needing
a
ten-story
administrative
building,,
you
know,
any
time?,
certainly
not
decades
to
come..
We
have.
we're
about
sized
about
right
now,
just
about
right?.
O
O
O
O
O
O
Glen
segrue:
from
board
meetings
to
training
for
teachers,
to
just
the
public,
showing
up
for
registration
or
questions,
or
whatever..
So
I
can't
imagine
us
being
able
to
give
up
much
real
estate
anymore
for
any
more
intensive
uses.
in
fact,.
If
we,
jay
said
earlier,
how
difficult
it
was
to
find
this
site.
O
O
Glen
segrue:
that
we
had
for
for
decades,
and
we
only
got
rid
of
a
few
years-
ago.
um!
and
that
took
freed
up
some
of
that
space
for
that..
So
I
don't,,
you
know
again,
with
the
intensity
of
the
site,
right
now.,
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
imagine.
A
Pb
john
gerstle:
well,,
I
ah,,
I
have
a
another
question,,
and
that
is
about
how
do
you
expect
the
employment
in
this
in
the
whole
campus,,
including
the
modular
housing
factory,,
to
change
over
the
foreseeable
future.
A
Pb
john
gerstle:,
in
the
next
ten
and
twenty
years,
how
many
employees
will
there
be
at
the
factory
itself
and
elsewhere
on
campus
there?.
O
O
I
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
open
space
buffers.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
informal
pb
ml
robles:
buffers
between
the
site
and
the
residential
areas.
O
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
pb
ml
robles:,
eighty,,
eight.
G
O
Glen
segrue:,
I
mean,.
We
certainly
would
entertain
any
proposal
from
them
about
if
they
have
an
idea
of
what
buffers
we
need
to
look
at
and
be
additionalized.,
but
I
mean
the
enterprise.
Ditch
is
something
that
I
mean..
We
don't
really
have
power
control
over
anyways.,
so
it's
a
natural
buffer,
as
it
is,
just.
O
O
Glen
segrue:
yeah,,
I
believe,
that's
a
little
actually
a
little
off
of
our
property
little
ways.,
that's
something
that
we've
recently
come
across
some
property
that
we
have
that
wasn't
fully
included
when
we
transferred
property
to
the
city,
and
we're
in
the
process
of
following.
G
A
B
B
Sarah
huntley:,
the
first
person
who
was
on
the
list,,
lowered
their
hand.,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
means,
because
they're
anticipating.
I'm
going
to
call
on
them,
or
that
they
wish
they
to
no
longer
talk,.
So
maybe
I'll
just
turn
on
dev
krieger's
audio
for
a
minute,.
So
she
can
tell
us
if
she's,
stepping
back
from
testifying.
or
if
she
was
just
anticipating
that
I
was
about
to
follow.
Her.
B
P
P
P
Bev
krieger:
and
if
you
annex
it,,
the
city
of
alder,
still
does
not
have
total
control
over
the
overbelling.
ah,
school
district,
property.
ah!,
I
think
a
better
place
where
you
might
want
to
consider
would
be
the
old
ibm.
facility..
Most
of
it
is
completely
empty..
There's
a
good
road
access
it..
It
would
not
be
a
big
impact..
It's
already
part
of
the
city
of
boulder..
You
wouldn't
have
to
do
any
annexation.
P
P
Bev
krieger:,
I
think
that
would
be
potentially
a
lot
better
place.
and
if
you're
already
busing
students
from
high
school
to
the
votex,
center,
busing
them
to
ibm,,
I
don't
think
would
be
in
a
big
in
position.
ah,.
I'm
just
really
worried
that
it's
getting
so
crowded
around
here,.
P
P
Q
Q
B
R
Kathy
pahler:
hello,,
I'm.,
kathy
paler
and
I'm
sitting
here
with
my
husband,
gary,
and
we've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
thirty
two
years..
We
raised
our
kids
here,
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Walking
in
that
field
with
our
kids
and
dogs,,
and
the
sombrero
marsh
is
the
largest
natural
body
of
water
in
boulder..
R
R
R
Kathy
pahler:
neighbor
bill
that
the
the
traffic
on
arapaho
is
just
unbelievable.,
so
you
know,
having
a
factory
that
close
to
a
a
residential
neighborhood
is
very
concerning,,
but
on
a
different
level..
My
son
went
through
boulder
valley,
school
district
as
well
as
my
daughter,,
and
he
was
dyslexic.
R
Kathy
pahler:,
as
free
labor
to
build
modular
housing
is
a
conflict
of
interest..
We
don't
have
factories
in
boulder..
Where
are
these
kids,
who
have
these
factory
skills
supposed
to
work,
realistically?
they're
going
to
have
to
leave
alder..
So
when
I
think,
in
terms
of
this
whole
project
being
a
benefit
to
our
community,,
I
have
to
just
say
my
son
would
be
the
first
kid
that
would
be
in
that
factory,
and
he
would
not
be
that
excited
about
it..
So
I
have
very
strong
feelings.
R
Kathy
pahler:
about
that.
and
kathy
pahler:
there
again,
it's
a
free,
labor
force
j.
sub
nut
called
it
volunteer.,
but
I
don't
see
that
as
volunteer..
I
see
that
as
kids,
who
don't
have
a
lot
of
options,
and
even
kids
at
boulder
high,
they
go
the
gamut..
Now
our
son
went
to
front
range,
kids
go
to
stanford.,
they
go
to
front
range.,
there's
a
whole
gamut.,
but
the
kids,
really,
realistically,
are
going
to
be
working
in
that
factory.
are
are
going
to
be
kids
that
are
facing
more
adversity.
R
R
Kathy
pahler:
gray,
partnership.:
this
is
a
big
partnership
between
boulder
valley,
school
district
city
of
boulder,
and
habitat
for
humanity,.
I
mean,
who's
the
controlling
entity
and
the
idea
that
there's
no
height
restriction.,
I
mean.
ultimately
everyone..
I
might
have
good
intentions,,
but
as
the
years
go
by.
R
R
B
S
S
S
S
S
S
Dennis
southward:,
dennis
southward:
open
space
was
that
when
that
open
space
was
given,
when
that
space
was
given
by
a
bulgarary
school
district
to.
S
S
S
S
T
T
Alex
cassidy:
len's
comment
at
the
beginning
of
this
session
that
this
is
really
not
a
dialogue..
I'm
glad
that
there
are
some
questions
and
answers
between
the
board
and
other
folks.,
but
the
public
is
really
just
muted
throughout
this
whole
thing,.
Unless
we're
given
three
minutes.
T
T
T
T
Alex
cassidy:
and
it
could
alex
cassidy:,
be
fronting
on
to
arapaho,,
and
I
guess
beyond
that
I'm.
about
out
of
time
here,,
but
I
would
say,
you
know
you
need
to
get
folks
in
the
neighborhood
involved
in
a
way
that
they
understand.
What's
going
on,
I
mean.
the
communication
was
almost
nothing
on
this,.
T
T
Alex
cassidy:,
those
are
some
of
my
concerns..
I
just
feel
like
in
this
entire
conversation..
There
is
little
or
no
consideration
for
the
folks
that
actually
live
here,
that
you're
pushing
this
factory
up
next
to,
you
know,
like,,.
T
T
T
U
U
U
U
U
V
V
Chuck
hardesty:
and
then,
all
of
a
sudden,
here
with
the
holiday,
I'm
up
in
the
montana.
I
was
on
a
road
trip
and
trying
to
get
organized
for
this
one
week
with
a
holiday
weekend
in
between
is
crazy
for
notice
for
something
we
haven't
heard
anything
about
for
a
year..
I
am
hoping,
and
would
appreciate
from
the
board
some
thumbs
up,.
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
Chuck
hardesty:
reply
to
the
first
one,,
but
I
don't
see
some
of
the
people.
I've
even
got
the
stuff,
or
had
time
to
read
it..
So
please
take
a
look
through
my
comments.
there's
some
more
things
in
there,
but
think
about
the
noise.
think
about
page
fifty,
four,,
which
says,
not
expand
the
site.,
and
yet
this
is
expanding
uses
of
the
site,.
W
Mary
and
scott
bachman:
hi!,
can
you
hear
us?
sarah
huntley:,
we
can.
mary
and
scott
bachman:.
I
thank
you.
um,
yeah.
we'd
like
to
largely
agree
with
our
neighbors,
you
know..
Putting
aside
these
rose
tinted
projections
about
community
impact,.
I
mean,.
We
can
already
see
that
it's
going
to
impact
our
community
very
negatively.
W
W
W
W
W
X
Mary
and
scott
bachman:
hi,-
and
this
is
mary
scott's
wife.-
I
wanted
to
also,
just
bring
a
couple
of
things
with
regards
to
the
noise.
pollution-
is
that
we
would
like
to
ask
that
the
city
or
holder
valley,
school,
district
or
habitat
for
humanity
actually
do
a
um,.
You
know
actual
recording
of
noise,
pollution,
um!
because,.
As
our
neighbors
have
spoken
up,.
We
are
fairly
new
neighbors
here,,
but
to
the
noise
carries,.
X
Mary
and
scott
bachman:
other
entities,,
as
well
as
excel,,
and
it's
a
ton
of
noise,
plus
the
congestion
on
a
rapporteur.-
our
main
access
is
west
view
for
most
of
us
here
in
metal
or
ravenwood,
other
than
going
from
baseline,,
which
adds
an
additional
amount
of
time..
We
have
a
middle
school
there,,
so
we
have
to
avoid
those
hours
for
many.
X
Mary
and
scott
bachman:,
unless
we're
still
commuting.,
we
have
to,,
you
know,
decide
what
side
we
have
an
inner
lane
on
a
rapporteur
where
people
speed
up
coming
down.
if
they
see
us
waiting
at
the
stop
sign
or
speeding
up
the
hill.
um!
and
those
are
all
commuters
that
are
coming
in
or
out,.
Perhaps
some
of
you
as
well,,
and
when
we
come
into
the
middle
end,
we
get
hung
that
slip
up,
or
they
come
up
so
close
to
us
that
they're
re-ending,
our
songs,
and
so
that
congestion
of
having
huge
trucks.
X
B
Sarah
huntley:,
you
should
be
able
to
unmute.
sarah
huntley:
hi!
there!.
Can
you
hear
me?,
you
sure,
can.
great
hi!?
This
is
tanya..
I
live
in
one
of
the
properties.
That's
mentioned
on
page
eighty,
nine
section
two
in
there,
and
you
know
I
was
just
kind
of.
Y
Y
Tanya
cumalat:
the
property
right
now
my
house
has
the
smallest
portion
on
the
land,,
and
you
know
I
I
actually
just
didn't
even
know
until
one
of
my
neighbors
came
by
and
told
me
that
it
was
even
mentioned
here,
and
um,.
You
know
I
had
thought
my
property
went
all
the
way
to
the
drainage
ditch,,
not
just
stopping
at
my
fence..
I
actually
don't
even
know
if
my
friends,.
Y
Tanya
cumalat:
you
know,,
would
be
asked
to
be
taken
down,
or
something
like
that.
um,.
If
that
portion
of
land
was
annexed
and
everything
um,
and
you
know,
also
listening
in
for
this
meeting.
um,,
I'm
really
curious..
I
know
I
received
a
communication
about
it,,
but
about
the
fencing
of
the
marsh
area,
and
we
as
neighbors.
well,.
We
did
receive
a
communication
about
it.
It
wasn't.
Y
Tanya
cumalat:,
it
was
very
vague
as
to
where
the
fence
would
be,
and
no
maps
get
in
or
anything.,
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
how
that
strip
of
property
right
behind
my
house
might
play
into
that
as
well.
um!
and
you
know
finally,.
I
just
wanted
to
echo
some
of
the
concerns
of
the
increased
traffic
to
the
area.
um!.
We
have
a
lot
of
problems
on
ravenwood
with
people.
Y
Y
Y
Z
Susan
lythgoe:
yes,
um,,
I
did
thank
you.
um,.
I
think
susan,
let's
go.,
the
executive
director
of
letters
have
a
chat
with
humanity,
and
I
just
want
to
speak
briefly
about
kind
of
our
process.
Enroll.
In
all
of
this.
On
this
we
are
a
license:
commercial,
general
contract..
We
build
high
quality
housing,
using
a
volunteer
structure
based
model.
um..
We
also
use
professional
license.
Z
Z
Sarah
huntley:,
the
building
itself,,
is
designed
to
be
being
built
on
an
existing
parking
lot..
There
is
sufficient
parking
already
existing
for
the
volunteers.
we
anticipate
having
on
site
um..
The
consultant
will
provide.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Susan
lythgoe:,
some
of
those
will
be
students,,
but
we
will
also
be
bringing
in
other
volunteers,,
just
as
we
do
on
our
regular,
both
site..
Now
the
students
in
the
district
built
with
us
on
our
construction
sites
and
do
a
great
job
and
work
well
with
our
adult
volunteers.
um!.
They
are
able
to
come
out
of
this.
I'm.,
a
former
educator..
They
come
out
of
the
experience
with
the
instruction
program.
um,
ready
to
get
jobs
in
the
field,,
and
I'm
excited
to
be
a
part
of
that.
Z
Z
Susan
lythgoe:,
without
having
to
disrupt
them.
um!,
our
construction
hours
tend
to
be
between
eight
and
three
thirty..
So
this
is
not
a
twenty-four-seven.
um!.
We
do
that
tuesday
through
saturday..
So
I
hope
that
clarifies
for
several
of
us
what
our
role
and
this
is.
um!
and
we
look
forward
to
you
operating
this
professionally.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
B
B
B
B
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
B
Sarah
huntley:
okay,
so
mary
and
scott
bachman,,
I'm
going
to
unmute
you
if
one
of
you
has
not
already
provided
testimony.,
it
sounds
like
the
chair.
will
allow
you
to
speak
at
this
point
in
time?.
X
X
X
X
X
B
A
J
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
O
O
Glen
segrue:
in
that
direction.
and
and
also,
you
know,
bbsd
had
a
lot
of
concerns
over
noise
as
well.,
so
we've
partly
actually
that
location..
It
works
well
for
noise
for
us,
because
it
abuts
the
part
of
tech
that
makes
our
own
noise,
because
that's
part
of
the
construction
trades
program..
They
run
the
saws
and
things
like
that
inside
the
building..
It's
adjacent
to
also
close
to
the
autoshop,,
which
some
really
has
those
types
of
pieces..
So
we
felt
this
was
compatible
with
it.
O
Um,
glen
segrue:
in
in
regarding
the
small
strip
of
land
that
that
is
actually
something
on
pbsd's
radar,
and
it
has
no
part
in
this..
It's
not
part
of
the
annexation..
I
heard
a
comment
that
I
was
part
of
the
annexation
agreement,,
but
it
was
actually
a
part
of
the
comments
so.,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
agreement
that
that
establishes
anything.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:.
I
do
have
some
comments.
I
want
to
make.,
but
first
I
wanted
to
ask
just
about
the
status
of
susan
lithgow
from
habitat.
Is
she
considered
to
be
a
member
of
the
public
tonight,,
or
is
she
considered
to
be
part
of
the
applicant
team,
since
she's
from
habitat
for
humanity?,
because
if
she
is
part
of
the
applicant
team,,
I'd
like
to
give
her
more
time
to
respond
if
she
would
like,
since
she
represents
the
project.
J
L
L
L
Pb,,
jorge
boone:
to
mitigate
impacts
of
sound.
um!
sounds
like
light
is
already
it's
been
taken
into
consideration
by
the
applicant
complying
by
the
dark,
skies.
um!
and
then,
further,.
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:
however,,
once
this
is
annexed,
it's
out
of
the
city's
control.,
um,
and
and
further
development
iterations.
Something
could
happen,
and
so
I'd
recommend
putting
very
similar
language
to
what
was
ultimately
put
in
and
negotiated
with
to
you,
south,,
which
is
also
a
sovereign
entity
that
no
problem
agreeing
to
that
to
to
to
consideration,
to
public
concerns..
So.
L
C
C
C
C
C
Pb,
lisa,
smith:,
um,
and,
and
some
of
them
maybe
address
some
of
them
may
not..
You
know
that's
a
normal
part
of
any
planning
process,.
So
I'm
not
saying
that
everything
the
neighbors
ask
for
will
necessarily
happen,
but
part
of
the
challenge.
For
me,
as
a
member
of
any
war,
does
I
look
at
the
san
antonio.,
whether
it's
this
space
or
the
next
is,
if
we
don't
codify
in
the
agreement,.
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
even
if
it's
absolutely
true
that
there's
no
intent
on
the
part
of
bbsc.
currently,
or
twinkle
in
anyone's
eye
of
it
being
sometime
in
the
future,.
We
see
all
of
that
in
the
future,
and
and
that's
hard
for
me
to
feel
like
I'm
doing
my
duty
as
a
board
member,,
you
know,,
if
I
just
sign
off,,
and
that
we
don't.
C
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
personally,,
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
some
things
about
like,
you
know.
traffic
and
noise,,
and
all
those,.
I
think,
are
valid
concerns;,
but
by
and
large
I
think
the
annexation
looks
generally
appropriate..
I
think
the
uses
I'm
not
overly
concerned
about
the
uses..
I
want
to
understand
them
better
and
make
sure
we
take.
C
C
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah,.
We
we
just
lose
that
ability
to
have
any
control
over
what
happens
in
the
land
unless
we
put
it
in
the
annexation,
agreement.
so
um,,
I
don't
know
exactly
where
we'll
land
tonight,
or
where
we'll
be
in
the
future
processes..
But
I
just
want
to
signal,
I
guess,
to
bbsc:
that
that's
kind
of
where
I
stand
as
a
member
of
the
planning
board.
um,
yeah,,
that
that
it's
not
that
I.
C
J
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
if
the
city
of
boulder
wants
to
include
any
kind
of
provisions
in
this
annexation
agreement
to
prevent
things
down
the
road.
you
know
the
time
of
annexation
is
the
only
time
that
we
have
to
do
it..
So
I
I
do
think
that
it's
good
to
be
thinking
about
those
things
here.
and
now..
I
want
to
thank
all
the
neighbors
who
came
out
to
testify,
you
know,,
testifying
before
board
like
this
can
be
scary,
and
it
can
be
intimidating,,
and
we
appreciate
your
time
and
your
honesty.
J
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
at
the
time
it
was
called
attention
homes,
and
they
had,
like
a
good
neighbour
agreement,,
and
they
had
a
neighbor
committee
that
seemed
to
work
well
for
that
project..
I
think
sarah
silver
might
even
have
been
part
of
that,
if
I
remember
correctly,,
so
I'm
sorry
she's,
not
here
tonight,,
but
I'm
wondering
if
that
could
be
a
good
model
for
communication,
going
forward
in
terms
of
creating
a
good
neighbor
committee
and
a
good
neighbor
agreement
for
this
particular
project,,
because
I
I
do
hear
the
concerns
of
the
neighbors.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
the
group
that
we're
hearing
from
the
most
is
the
immediately
adjacent
neighbors,,
we're
not
hearing
from
the
people
who
would
benefit
from
the
modular
home
factory.
we're
not
hearing
from
the
students
that
would
benefit
from
this
educational,
program.
um,
and
you
know
we're
not
hearing
from
this..
We've
heard
a
little
bit
from
the
city
of
boulder,,
but
you
know
jay
wasn't
here,
representing
the
city
folder..
He
was
here
representing
the
applicant.,
but
what
this
means
for
the
city
of
boulder
and
our
funding,.
You
know
we
have
limited
funding.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:.
It
is
a
goal
of
the
city
of
boulder
to
annex
properties
like
this,
that
are
in
area
two,
and
that
are
already..
They
are
already
getting
the
benefit
of
being
connected
to
city,
water
and
sewer
right.,
and
so
what
this
annexation
allows
us
to
do
is,
as
the
city
to
try
to
negotiate
a
package
to
say,
okay,
we're
going
to
actually
formally
bring
you
into
the
city,.
J
J
Pb,
laura
kaplan:,
but
it
could
also
take
the
form
of,,
like
george,
had
suggested
a
height
limitation,,
if
not
for
the
whole
property,.
I
would
certainly
support
at
least
putting
a
height
limitation
on
this
modular
factory.
um,,
you
know..
As
john
pointed
out,.
This
is
a
different
beast..
This
is
not
an
administrative
building..
This
is
not
a
school
building..
This
is
a
a
potentially
could
be
converted
to
a
commercial
use
in
the
in
the
future,
and
have
that
property
sold.
Off.
and,
as
hella
pointed
out,.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
that
building
could
look
like.,
so
it
sounds
like
the
city
has
some
control
over
that,
since
the
city
is
paying
to
build
this
building..
But
who
knows
what's
going
to
happen
in
twenty
or
thirty
years
from
now,
when
they
want
to
upgrade
that
building
or
potentially
expand
it,?
And
it's
still
under
the
school
district's
control,
right?.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
um!,
so
certainly,
at
least
for
that
one
building..
I
would
think
it
would
be
eminently
reasonable
to
say
this
could
be
a
future
commercial
use..
We
want
to
limit
the
height
on
this
piece
of
the
property,,
if
not
the
whole
property.,
I'm
not
saying
the
city
council
couldn't
ask
for
it
on
the
whole
property.
but
um!.
I
think,
there's
a
really
strong
argument
for
asking
for
it.
For
this
one
particular
building.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:.
I
also
think
that
lisa
made
a
great
point
about
the
buffers
and
the
boundaries,
and
it
sounds
like
that's
a
little
bit
complicated,
and
that
the
residents
I'm
not
exactly
clear
on
what
the
residents
were
talking
about
with
that
triangle
or
strip
of
land,.
But
it
sounds
like
they
have
put.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
time,,
effort,
and
money
into
improving
it,,
and
I
think
they
have
a
legal
case
for
claiming
ownership
to
it..
It
sounds
like
the
ownership,,
the
boundaries..
The
surveying
is
a
little
unclear,,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
we
should
go
there
tonight
in
the
annexation
agreement..
It
sounds
like
the
neighbors..
Don't
actually
want
that
triangle
to
be
part
of
the
annexation
agreement.
they
wanted
to.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
um!,
so
I
I
think
those
are
my
initial
comments..
I
do
also
want
to
say
I'm.
a
little
surprised
that
nobody
on
staff
took
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
arapaho
widening.
you
know,
street,
widening
project
that
I
believe,
has
been
funded,
and
is,.
You
know,
sorting
underway
that
will
help
ease
some
of
those
trafficking.
Sense,.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
has
to
do
with
pb
ml
robles:,
the
partnership.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
factory,,
pb
ml
robles:
and
pb
ml
robles:
that
there
will
be
a
house
produced
every
six
weeks.
G
G
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
potentially.,
the
affordable,
housing
units,
or
the
modules
do
not
necessarily.
G
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
affordable
housing
project
that
needs
to
have
its
modular
housing
replaced..
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
idea.!
Thank
you
for
that.
um,,
I'm
just
questioning..
Do
we
need
to
put
something
into
the
annexation
that,
in
fact,.
G
G
G
G
A
A
A
A
A
Pb
john
gerstle:
piece
of
land?
need
to
be
addressed
now,
because,
because
the
you
know,
the
annexation
agreement
is
the
only
animal
we
have
on
what
ultimately
happens.
There.
as
long
as
ebsd
continues
to
own
it.
A
A
Pb
john
gerstle:
and
so
pb
john
gerstle:.
It
seems
to
me
pb
john
gerstle:,
entirely
reasonable
for
the
same
approach
to
be
taken.
Here.
A
Pb
john
gerstle:
as
much
from
pbsd
in
this
case
as
cu
south,
is
in
its
annexation,
application,
and
therefore
it's.
There
should
be
even
more
flexibility
from
bbsd.
to
to
deal
with
those
sorts
of
concerns..
So.
A
A
A
Pb
john
gerstle:,
the
transit
that
pb
john
gerstle:,
will
be
relevant
here.
I
I
I
I
I
I
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
I
hate
to
talk
about
leverage
right,,
but
it
is
a
negotiation
right?.
The
the
bbsd
wants
to
be
annexed
for
certain
reasons,
and
the
city
wants
to
annex
bbsd
for
certain
reasons,
and
it's
a
dance
that
we're
doing
together
to
figure
out..
How
do
we
do
this
in
a
way
that
both
dance
partners
are
happy
dancing
together
into
the
future.
J
I
Cob
jay
sugnet:
what
you
might
not
like
what
I
have
to
think?
um,,
it's
just
gig.
I
I
I
L
J
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
thank
you.
hella,,
that's
very
useful.
um,
you
know..
One
thing
we
talk
about
in
my
field
is
is
called
batna..
Maybe
folks
have
heard
that
term.
it's
an
acronym..
It
stands
for
best
alternative
to
a
negotiated
agreement,
and
it
sounds
like
the
school
district's
best
alternative
to
a
negotiated
agreement..
In
this
case,
annexation.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
it's
not
something
they
require
for
their
operations..
It
sounds
like
it
really
is
the
city
that
is
promoting
this,,
that
it's
in
our
interest
to
annex
the
property
and
have
this
partnership,
and
that
we
see
a
large
benefit
from
this.
and
we're
really
the
motivating
partner
trying
to
get
this
annexation
agreement
through.,
and
so
I
think
that
is
useful
to
be
clear
about
for
people
to
hear
and
understand.
That,
you
know.
J
G
Pb
ml
robles:
do.
G
N
N
I
G
G
A
A
A
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:.
I
largely
concur
with
your
comments.,
I
think
that's
well,
said
I'm,.
Looking
at
the
key
issues
that
staff
identified
in
the
memo.
and
I
think
yes,,
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
city's
annexation
and
bbcp
policies..
I
think
that
yes,,
it
is
consistent
with
the
state
statues.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
and
including
the
policy,,
the
bbc
policy
on
annexation,,
and
I
think
that
yes,,
an
initial
zoning
of
p
for
public
is
appropriate..
I
don't
know
what
else
it
it
could
be,.
So
I
would,
you
know,,
be
in
favor
of
moving
forward
with
a
recommendation
to
annex
um..
I
do
want
to
point
out,
for
the
sake
of
the
neighbors
that
you
know.
I
I
hear
what
they're
saying
about.,
maybe
there's
a
a
better
location
for
a
modular
factory.
If
we
could
just
pick
and
choose
any
place
in
the
city.,
but.
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
and
what
is
being
proposed
for
this
property
does
seem
to
be
consistent
with
the
public
use
designation..
It's
an
educational
facility
that
provides
benefit
for
the
students
to
nonprofit
use..
That
also
provides
benefit
for
the
city..
So
I
don't
see
any
issue
with
proposed
uses
of
the
property..
I
think
it
is
appropriate
for
that
that
zoning
designation
of
public;.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
and
I
think,
if
this
board
wants
to
make
a
recommendation
to
council
to
explore
whether
a
height
limitation
could
be
agreed
upon.,
you
know,.
I
think
that
is
a
reasonable
thing
to
suggest
to
be
explored,,
and
I
also
would
like
to
return
to
this
idea
of
some
kind
of
a
good
neighbor
committee
or
agreements..
I
think
that
has
worked
well
in
other
areas
of
the
city..
This
is
a.
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
you
know,
a
campus
that
abuts
a
residential
neighborhood,
and
we
have
neighbors
that
have
expressed
some
strong
concerns,,
and
I
do
think
that
you
know,
increasing
that
communication
through
some
kind
of
committee
or
agreement
would
be
appropriate.
because,.
You
know,
we're
we're
not
trying
to
do
this
to
make
anybody's
life
more
difficult,,
and
I
think
that
having
open
lines
of
communication
between
neighboring
uses
is
is
a
good
thing,.
So
I
would
certainly.
G
G
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
and
again,
they
might
have
a
factory,,
but
it
might.
those
units
might
not
end
up
in
older,.
So
I
don't
know
how
that
goes
forward.,
but
I
do
think
that
if
we
are
considering
that
to
be.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:,
I
I
see
the
benefit
of
the
of
the
mon
for
housing
thing..
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
neighborhood's
concerns
are
met
around
sound
um,,
be
it
through
something
like
what
laura
suggested
a
good
neighbor
policy,,
something
around
that
that
that
that
mitigates
their
concerns,
that
they're
not
going
to
be
living
next
to
an
ongoing.
L
Pb,,
jorge
boone:,
twenty,,
four,,
seven,,
three
hundred
and
sixty-five
construction
project.
Other
than
that.
I
I
generally
concur
with
what
an
all
said
and
and
kind
of
frame
it
the
same
way,
around,
sort
of
just
just
narrowing
in
on
that
community
benefit
and
making
sure
that
it
it
it
addresses
all
sides.
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah,
um..
I
also
concur
with
the
other
board
members,
and
I
appreciate
staff
taking
the
time
to
walk
us
through
this
and
get
us
to
where
we
are
at,
and
the
applicant
as
well.
ah,.
I
think
as
much
as
you
know..
We
spent
time
on
that.
we're
not
coming
back
to
those
very
nicely
framed,.
You
know,
three
core
questions
for
us
to
ask..
I
still
think
it's
all
really.
C
C
C
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
so
ah,
yeah,,
I
I
agree
with
everybody..
I
don't
want
to
rehash
stuff,
that's
already
been
said.
um!,
so
well.
ah!
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
time,
and
I
I
do
actually
think
it
was
productive.
the
time
that
was
productively
spent,,
because
these
are
things
that
will
need
to
be
figured
out
as
the
site
goes.
Forward.
A
Pb
john
gerstle:,
a
couple
sentences
with,
making
those
points
about.
A
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:
sort
of
first
write.
A
refusal
should
be
to
use
them
here
and
boulder,,
whether
that's
through
habitat
for
humanity,
or
some
other
affordable
home
program
connected
to
the
city
like
that,,
that
the
city's,
affordable,
housing,
program,
and
partners
should
have
basically
first
dips
on
those
modular
homes
that
are
maybe
like
the
first
eighty
or
the
first
one
hundred,,
or
maybe
there's
some
limit
to
it.
but
um!
that
some
of
that
benefit
should
stay
here.
J
G
J
Pb,
laura
kaplan:,
given
that
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
what
john
said,
that
it's
probably
just
naturally
going
to
happen
that
the
city
is
going
to
want
to
take
advantage
of
that..
That's
why
we're
doing
this.!
That's
why
the
city
is
putting
all
that
money
into
building
the
modular
factory,.
So,
given
that.
J
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
I
do
appreciate
the
point.
john
makes
that
the
city
is.
G
Pb
ml
robles:
a
vital
part,
since
it's
gonna
be
building
the
building
and
part
of
the
trio
of
partnership,.
So.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:
to
be
our
community,
affordable,
pb
ml
robles:,
housing,
pb
ml,
robles:,
benefit.
and.
G
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
modular
factory,
pb
ml
robles:
would
remain
true
to
its
goal,.
A
A
G
A
J
A
J
D
G
L
Pb,
jorge
boone:,
it's
pb,,
jorge
boone:,
if
charles
is
still
on
charles,,
do
you
have
the
exact
language
we
included?
In.
see
you.
N
H
H
J
L
L
J
J
J
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
it
just,
and
that's
unlikely
to
happen.,
but
it
could..
So
that's
why
I
just
said,
abide
by
the
city's
regulations
on
building
building
height,,
because
if
the
regulations
change
this
doesn't
have
to
change,,
whereas
fifty,
five
foot
is
a
number
that
could
change
in
the
future
up
or
down.
L
L
L
J
L
Pb,,
laura
kaplan:,
two
pb,,
jorge
boone:,
was
because.
L
L
L
J
L
L
C
D
J
A
A
A
A
A
A
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
pb
ml
robles:
in
the
maps
pb
ml
robles:
that
were
provided.,
they
were
all..
I
believe
they
were
called
whitman,.
So
maybe
wetlands
is
broad
enough..
That
was
my
only
clarification..
It
is
wetlands
broad
enough
to
cover
the
protections
for
the
native
habitats
that
we're
looking
for,.
A
D
A
J
Pb,
laura
kaplan:.
I
just
like
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
and
the
applicant
for
walking
us
through
this
and
helping
us
understand
all
the
nuances
of
what
we
were
deciding
upon,
and
hopefully,.
We
have
given
you
something
that
is
is
workable,
and
I
think
we
are
all
in
support
of
this
annexation,
and
the
proposed
uses
for
the
property..
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
vision
and
your
dedication
and
your
hard
work
on
this.
G
G
Pb
ml
robles:,
this
vision.-
I
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
wonderful
idea
to
have
a
modular
factory,
and
that
the
city
is
going
to
own
it,
and
be
a
party
to
it
for
at
least
a
decade,
and
build
it
to
a
very
high
standard..
I
think
all
of
those
things
are
going
to
are
going
to
have
a
huge
benefit
to
the
students
that
will
be
participating
in
those
programs..
So
kudos
to
the
to
me,
staff
and
the.
G
A
A
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
Kurt
firnhaber:
and
others.,
so
I
want
to
also
thank
her
for
all
that
work,
and
we
look,.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
these
other
two
partners
to
make
a
real
impact
on
home
ownership,
housing
opportunities
in
the
city..
So
thank
you.
A
A
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
one
thing,,
perhaps
perhaps
not
housing,,
but
we
definitely
do
have
factories
in
the
city
of
boulder.
um.
they
exist..
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
that.,
but
I
do
think
the
training's,
valuable.
and
then,
just
to
echo
what?
what
kurt
said,
and
and
to
shavnam
and
today
and
to
all
of
the
staff,,
and
we.
C
C
Pb,
lisa
smith:
yeah,.
I
I
hope
that
neighbors
and
bbsd
and
anyone
else
impacted,
are
able
to
talk
to
each
other,
moving
forward,
and-
and
I
agree
it's
a.
C
N
Cob,,
charles
ferro
(he/him):.
I
think
that
there
was
a
question
from
board
member
capel,
and
just
about
the
status
of
the
site
review
criteria.
Code
changes,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
you
keeping
your
eyes
on
the
council
calendar.
um..
Those
dates
were
tentative
with
placeholders
and
based
on
the
recent
study
session.
conversation
we
had
with.
N
Cob,,
charles
ferro
(he/him):
at
the
end
of
august.
um,,
there's
more
work
to
be
done.
at
the
direction
of
council.-
so
we're
going
to
adjust
that
schedule
a
little
bit.
we're
also
experiencing
some
staffing
challenges
that
we're
trying
to.
N
Cob,
charles
ferro
(he/him):
provide
some
coverage
any
interim
around,
so
that
will
shift.
Um.
planning
board
will
absolutely
get
to
see
the
next
iteration
of
the
ordinance
before
it
comes
forward
to
council.-
um!,
so
those
are
just
place
all
their
days.,
but
as
soon
as
we
have
a
new
schedule
lined
up
we'll
we'll
keep
the
board
up
to
it.
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
Brad
mueller,
cob:
offered
up
to
restaurants,
brad
mueller,
cob:,
mid
july.,
brad,
mueller,
cob:.
Those
restaurants
are
wrapping
up
their
applications,,
some
of
them
having
come
in
some
late
to
the
process,,
but
all
in
at
this
point
in
big
process,,
and
we
anticipate
a
continuity
of
liquor
service
through
an
agreement
with
the
state.