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From YouTube: City of Boulder Planning Board - 9-17-20
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City of Boulder Planning Board - 9-17-20
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Jean
gatza
moderator
(she/her):,
I
thought,
with
with
the
webinar
function
that
we
had
a
way
to
raise
hand,
but
if
not,,
please,
let
us
know
within
the
chat
or
the
q
amp.
a,,
we
can
look
at
both
of
those.
okay,
len
looks
like
lynn
would
like
to
speak.,
and
if
anyone
else
would
please
message
me:
I'm.
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Harmon
zuckerman,
pb:,
then
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
participation
matter
on
the
agenda
and
move
to
the
fourth.
agenda
item,
which
is
discussions
of
discussion
of
dispositions
planning
board
call
ups
and
continuations
there's
only
one
matter
at
hand..
It's
the
call
up
item
for
a
standard
wetland,
permit.
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Kathleen
king,
cob:
for
each
of
these
alternative
future
concepts,.
What
we'll
be
looking
at
in
the
next
phase
of
work
is
really
all
about
the
proposed
land
use
mix..
We
will
test
how
much
of
each
kind
of
land
use
when
applied
in
each
folder
will
either
contribute
to
or
negatively
impact
citywide
goals.
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Kathleen
king,
cob:,
so
while
there's
kathleen
king,
cob:,
probably
a
lot
of
metrics,
we
would
love
to
test,
it's
important
that
we
limit
our
testing
to
the
most
critical
indicators
that
will
help
community
members
make
a
decision
about
whether
or
not
a
land
use
change
would
positively
contribute
to
the
future
of
the
sub
community.
In
the
city.
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Kathleen
king,
cob:
we've
looked
at
how
these
indicators
align
with
our
focus
areas
for
the
sub
community
plan
and
the
draft
vision
statements,
developed
by
the
working
group,.
We
will
use
the
indicators
to
compare
impacts
across
each
of
the
concepts
and
share
those
concepts
and
impacts
with
the
community.
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Kathleen
king,
cob:.
This
is
part
of
our
commitment
to
a
collaborative
process
and
we're
hoping
that
the
resources
and
tools,
we
will
provide
can
encourage
significant
participation
to
provide
the
working
group
with
important
community
input
that
will
help
them
make
recommendations
about
the
future.
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Kalani
pahoa,
cob:
sets
of
information
and
then
to
customize.
The
inputs
on
like
lupica
was
saying,
maybe
they're
smaller
units.
We
would
instead
of
flats,
mean
1100
square
feet..
That's
the
average.!
Maybe
it's
700.
I
don't
know
the
number
exactly,,
but
I
think
that
there's
room
for
that
in
this
program.
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Kalani
pahoa,
cob:,
there's
some
things
it's,,
you
know,
as
we're
working
through
we're
finding
what
the
limitations
are
to
this
working
with
ezra
to
see,
if
that's
something
that
we
can,
um,,
that
they're
improving
immediately
or
if
it's
on
the
list
of
approved,,
you
know,
things
that
improvements.
they're
making.
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Harmon
zuckerman,
pb:
for
class,
a
office
class
be
office
and
stuff
and
then
be
able
to
come
back
and
see
10
years
later..
How
did
choosing
scenario
to
in
this
exercise
change
that
on
the
ground
scenario
that
we're
all
actually
now
living
with
and
did
the
rents
go
up
and
is
there
more
affordable,
housing.
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Kalani
pahoa,
cob:
with
this
project,.
It
would
do
this
for
our
goals
and
it's
the
movement
in
this
program
is
to
take
us
into
what
you're
talking
about
a
dynamic
monitoring
of
the
environment,.
Do
we
start
to
achieve
some
of
the
things
instead
of
saying,
hey,?
We
set
something
up
that
maybe
didn't
work.
right.
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David
ensign:
industrial,
commercial
space
on
that
site
within
the
current
envelope..
So
we
know
that
we're
not
fully
built
out,
so
I
I
felt
like
I'm
looking
at
just
acreage,
may
not
tell
the
whole
story..
So
I
wonder
if,
if
I'm,
if.
is
that
true
or-
and
it
would
make
sense
to
kind
of
also
consider.
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Kalani
pahoa,
cob:
and
this
program
does
flag
conflicts.
so,,
where
you
have
things
like
that,
it,.
It
will
flag
it
and
say,
hey,.
This
does
not
match
what
is
going
on
in
your
internal
and
just
cutter.
Your
zoning
code,
whatever.
when
you're
working
with,,
because
it
does
land
use
plans,
and
it
does
so
many
plans.
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Kathleen
king,,
cob:
and
it's,
it's
a
long
way
off,,
but
I'm
laying
some
of
the
groundwork
to
continue
to
have
those
conversations
I
think,
would
be
important.
and
if
we
can
document,
some
of
those
ideas
in
in
something
like
a
sub
community
planet,,
it
will
give
us
some
direction
over
the
next
20
years.
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Harmon
zuckerman,
pb:,
you
know,:
how
can
they
be
harmon,
zuckerman,
pb:
integrated
into
this
model,?
You
know
it
does..
Do
you
think
of
some
of
these
into
it.
these
indicators.,
these
12
indicators
as
having
a
connection
to
the
preservation
or
the
change
and
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
did
that
factor
into
your
thinking
in
selecting
those
indicators.
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Kalani
pahoa,
cob:
put
together
a
methodology
report
that
goes
in
and
let
you
know.
okay,
we're
pulling
numbers
from
census
information
here
to
populate
this.
All
of
that
work,.
But
it's
it'll
be
part
of
a
larger
report
that
will
come
out
to
you
guys,
when
we
will
have
the
methodology
in
there.
okay.
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Kathleen
king,
cob:
how
they
are
kathleen,
king,,
cob:,
finding
successes
with
it
or
or
failures
with
it.,
and
I
think,
that's
part
of
being
a
beta
city,.
But
I
think
some
of
the
other
aspects
of
the
tool
that
we
may
engage
in
the
future
that
I
think
are
really
interesting.
and
we
have
seen
sunset
successes
are
that.
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montoya:,
so
it
is.
it's
interesting.
You
mentioned
boston
and
lupita
d,
montoya:
san
francisco..
I
live
in
both
areas
and
lupita
d
montoya:.
I
picture
that
two
cities
and
they
have
a
lot
less
to
work
with
in
terms
of
moving
parts,
the
liberal..
Now
we
have
a
lot
more
space
and
even
in
the
places
that
you
can
move
things.
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Harmon
zuckerman,
pb:
peter
petervitale:.
I
want
to
insert
something
that
petervitale:
part
of
this
should
also
be
a
survey
of
the
manufacturing
businesses
to
determine
if
the
least
of
their
problems
is
what
we're
trying
to
address
and
if
they're
going
to
be
leaving
boulder.
Regardless
of
all
of
this
moving
chairs
around
on
the
titanic
deck
that.
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petervitale:
and
why
why
or
why
not.,
and
that
also
drives
the
business
owners
decision
of
relocating
to
be
closer
to
their
employee
base.,
and
so
this
really
is
part
and
parcel
with
the
housing
conversation.
If
we're
going
to
champion
affordable
and
maintaining
industrial,
we
need
to
understand
that.
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Sarah
silver
pb:,
hugely
diverse
community
part
of
the
community
and
its
most
it's
the
25
people
or
so,
who've,
been
working
on
the
working
group,
which
is
awesome
and
their
commitment
to
this
process
is
great,.
But
I
feel,
like
the
whole
city,
should
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
this
next
stage.
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Harmon
zuckerman,
pb:
months
and
months,
ago,
the
glossy
physical
packet
for
macy's
is
that
material
still
good,
or
is
it
is
there's
got
it..
We
can
still
use
that
for
reviewing
the
project.
okay,
great..
So
everybody,
if
you
didn't,
throw
it
away
over
the
last
nine
months
or
whatever
or
lisa,
never
got
it
because.