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Jean
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moderator
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great,
thank
you,
david
okay,
with
our
virtual
protocol
for
meetings,
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do
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moderator,
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obscenity,
dehumanizing
language,
racial
epithets
or
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
appease
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
meetings
are
prohibited,.
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asked
folks
to
please
use
a
full
name
or
the
the
full
name
that
they
are
commonly
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Jean
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moderator
(she/her):,
I
think
that's.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--,
he/him:
okay,,
thank
you
and
I
have
been
notified
that
lisa
smith
had
a
reboot
issues,
so
she
should
be
back
on
shortly,,
but
since
we
still
have
six
members
on,
we
can
probably
go
forward.
Two
minutes
approval,,
especially
since
lisa
wasn't
in
the
meetings
that
were
15
minutes,,
but
we.
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Andrew
forkes-gudmundson:
hello,,
my
name
is
andrew
forecasts
could
mention.
I'm
the
deputy
director
of
the
league
of
oil
and
gas
impacted
coloradans
logic,
I'm
here,
tonight,
which,,
thank
you
for
making
me
not
have
to
be
physically
here
tonight
and
for
allowing
public
participation
over
zoom.
It's
a.
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Eric
tussey:
okay,
thank
you.
thank
you.
eric
tussey:.
Can
everybody
hear
me.
eric
tussey:
yes,?
Okay,
great?
Well,
I
intended
to
talk
about
one
thing,,
but
I
think
I'll
just
try
to
talk
about
the
boulder
reservoir
itself
and
the
city
public
input
process
related
to
that,
because
I
think
it's
it
seems
to
be
interesting,
and.
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David
ensign,
pb
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he/him:.
So
this
item
is
legislative.
We
don't
have
to
worry
too
much
about
things
that
we
may
have
discussed
or
heard,
but
I
just
asked
the
board:
if
anybody
has
any
potential
conflict
of
interest
or
any
other
things
like
they'd
like
to
disclose.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,
cob:
and
then
the
ordinance,
of
course,
in
following
that
would
be
in
keeping
with
policy
2.03
that
further
articulates
the
city's
preference
for
infill
and
redevelopment
of
sites,
rather
than
expanding
the
service
area,.
So
you
can
see
it
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
that
planning
or
your
one.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,
cob:
ordinance
would
also
address
policy
110,
jobs,
housing,,
which
indicates
that
the
city
will
seek
opportunities
to
improve
the
balance
of
jobs
and
housing,,
and
that
this
will
be
accomplished
by
encouraging
new
housing
and
mixed
use.
Neighborhoods
in
areas
close
to
where
people
work.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
a
link
for
that
excellent
presentation.
I
will
open
it
up
for
the
board.
Just
raise
your
hand
if
you
have
questions
feeling.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn,
architecture:
jump
from
slide
slide
answer
questions,.
We
can
talk
about
the
orbits
with
talk
about
the
intense,
whatever
you
think
makes
sense,
as
I
said,.
This
is
a
bit
of
an
unusual
process,
so
whatever
we
can
do
to
help
support
it
on
your
end,
please,,
please
let
us
know,,
but
that
also
you
thanks.
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holicky
coburn
architecture:,
but
it's
really
set
up
to
be
you
know,
kind
of
office
or
a
maker
space,
or
you
know
something
that's
allowable
under
our
whole
occupation
rules
which
are
pretty
clearly
defined
but
yeah.
I
think
we
may
have
some
that
are
larger
as
well,
and
I
think
we're
still
sorting
that
out.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn,
architecture:,
we're
sort
of
feeling
our
way
through
it,,
and
one
thing
is
clear-
is
that
it
does
seem
like
more
people
will
be
doing
work
from
home.
I
don't
know
what
work
that
is
right,.
Are
they
working
for
other
people
that
work
for
themselves?
How
does
that
all
has
to
happen.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn
architecture:,
there's
a
definition
that
code
for
home
occupation
and
essentially
says
doing
a
professional
I've
got
to
pull
up
here,
profession
or
occupation
conducted
as
an
accessory
use
within
it
volume.
In
order
to
do
that,
you've
got
to
go
down
the
hall
and
get
a
permit
to
do.
It.
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ensign,
pb
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he/him:
right.,
david
ensign,,
pb,
--,
he/him:,
excellent
discussion.
Any
more
questions,
before.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn
architecture:
and
it
runs
north,
south
on
the
east
side
of
building
three
and
four,
and
then
continues
through
the
park
and
then
down
on
the
west
side
of
the
diet
or
court
php
project,.
So
we
work
with
staff
staff,
said:
use
this
transportation
master
plan
and
we're
matching
that.
So
that's
how
it's
working.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn
architecture:.
I
can
definitely
tackle
that
one
peter
and
then
tell
me
if
you
want
more
information
on
what
I'm
done,
I'll
try
to
be
safe,,
but
john,
just
very
briefly.
I'm
sorry,!
This
is
the
green.
Is
the
multi
use
path?
That's
what
the
tmp
shows.
So
that's
what
we're
showing.
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peter
vitale:
actions
or
allow
you
to
do
it,
or
the
city
to
do
it,
because
I
think
it's
totally
unacceptable,
the
way
that
that
could
be
left
looking
and
bill
told
me,.
Nothing
would
happen
really,
and
so
I'm
concerned
that
this
project
will
be
done
and
people
will
drive
by
and
be
blown
away
at
the
absolute.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:,
so
we
should
be
able
to
get
going
okay,
so
I
didn't
use
the
cassie.
You
should
be
able
to
unmute
and
we're
looking
forward
to
hearing.
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Ginger
zukowski:
all
right,
sorry.,
jean
gatza,
moderator,
(she/her):,
good
yeah.,
ginger,
zukowski:
hi.
How
are
you
great
anyway,?
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
I'm
really
happy
that
that
property
is
going
to
be
redeveloped.
I
live
in
the
trailer
park
next
door,
and
you
know,
been
looking
at
that
for
a
long
time.
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Ginger
zukowski:
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I'm
really
glad
they're
going
to
be
townhomes
and,
hopefully,.
Most
of
them
will
be
for
sale
and
the
affordable
program.
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Ginger
zukowski:
and
I
would
be
one
of
them,
so
anyway,
that's
what
I
have
to
say,
and
I
hope
it's
taken
under
consideration.
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Bill
holicky,
coburn
architecture:
doesn't
look
like
maybe
she's,
not
back
yet
so
I'll,
just
I'll
just
briefly
china,,
so
you
know,
bhp
has
rental
rates
that
they
stay
within.
That
have
to
do
with.
Am
I
levels,
and
there
are
not,,
as
I
understand,
it,,
significant
fees
that
change
that?
Oh
there's
more.
So
if
you
look.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--,
he/him:
great
yeah,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
open
it
up
them
for
key
issue.
One.
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ensign,
pb
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he/him:.
I
was
very
interested
in
theater
in
your
question
to
the
occupation,
about
the
neighboring
properties.
It
does
seem
like
we
are
ending
up
in
a
better
space,,
although
obviously
not
not
a
perfect
space,,
but
at
least
with
working
on
those.
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jorge
boone:,
I
generally
agree
with
everything:
that's
been
said,
both
what
sarah
john
said,
and
also
david
lisa
peter.,.
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david
ensign,,
pb,
--,
he/him:,
everybody.
I
think
so.
We
do
have
a
second
key
issue
or
sarah
did
you
want
to
talk
to
the
ordinance
specifically
are.
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ensign,
pb
--
he/him:.
Are
there
any
additional
comments?
People
would
like
to
make
I'll
echo
what
lisa
said
that
I
was
happy
to
see
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
brought
up
addressed
the
configuration
in
the
park
and
things
like
that.
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lisa
smith:,
I'm
all
I'm.
This
is
beyond
our
purview.
I
felt
this
way
for
some
time
and
I
don't
think
this
is
necessarily.
I
know
this
is
not
something.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
right
and
if
we
could
start
if
we
want
to
put
up
the
emotional
language
getting
ready,,
but
but
first
we
can
still
have
comments.
Georgia.
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jorge
boone:,
I
thought
that
was
really
interesting
and
the
fact
that
they're
not
really
live
work
units,,
but
their
their
their
units
that
can
be
used
for
for
people's
home.
Businesses
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--
he/him:,
but
but
yeah
I
think
taking
this
includes
from
holiday.
There
there's
a
whole
set
of
ground
floor
work
units
there.
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ensign,
pb,
--
he/him:.
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
that.
That
would
probably
be
something
if
we
straw
poll
it
and
people
don't
have
a
problem.
That's
changing
that
wording.
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City
of
boulder:
ali
rhodes:,
but
before
I
talk
about
the
sites,,
I
do
want
to
zoom
out
a
little
bit
and
talk
about
the
parks
and
recreation
master
plan,,
which
is
one
of
the
key
ways.
Our
department
implements
the
boulder
la
comp
plan.
Our
2014
masterplan
highlighted
the
importance
of
partnerships.
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City
of
boulder:,
ali
rhodes:
and
current
financial
challenges
accentuate
the
value
of
diverse
revenue
streams,
to
help
us
deliver
on
our
core
mission.
Services
like
addressing
health
equity
restaurants
in
paris
can
generate
revenue
for
the
city
and
provide
subsidy
that
helps
us
broaden,
accessibility.
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Cob,
karl
guiler:,
we
have
a
number
of
other
zoning
districts
where
it's
an
allowed
by
right
use
in
one
location,,
but
if
it's
any
closer
than
500
feet
to
a
residential
zone,
it
triggers
the
use
review,.
So
we
feel
that
this
is
an
appropriate
way
to
ensure
compatibility
between
the
uses
and
residential
uses.
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City
of
boulder:
ali
rhodes:
examples
of
ways,.
We
could
use
that
as
for
a
volunteer
appreciation,
we've
talked
about
a
lottery
for
a
couple
of
nonprofits
a
year
to
get
their
food
at
cost
for
fundraising,,
but
there
is
not
currently
a
discount
for
for
those
who
qualify.
That's
something
we
certainly
could
explore.
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john
gerstle:
and
it's.
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City
of
boulder:
ali
rhodes:,
in
the
lease
it
did
allow
for
with
approval
by
the
vla
for
the
red
line
to
extend
to
the
beach.
We
anticipate
modifying
that
there
is
no
current
liquor
license
and
so
you're.
Quite
I'm
not
trying
to
be
vague.
It's
just
there's
not
a
current
liquor
license.
So
there's
no
current
practice.
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david
ensign,,
pb,
--
he/him:,
every
each
speaker
will
have.
david
ensign,
pb,
--
he/him:,
three
minutes.
david
ensign,,
pb,
--
he/him:
and
please
remember
to
state
your
name,
and
you
know
address,
or
at
least
neighborhood,
where
you
live,.
So
I
will
start
with
eric
jessie
thanks
for
waiting
and
then
we'll
go
with
lisa,
spalding
and
surely
schaller
so
eric..
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David
ensign,
pb,
--
he/him:.
Thank
you
eric
and
I'll.
Just
also
mentioned
that
we
did
get
your
presentation,
email
and
I
looked
at
it,.
So
if
you
weren't
able
to
get
to
every
every
detail
in
your
three
minutes,
we
had
it
and
it's
in
part
of
part
of
the
public
record,
so
we'll
go
next
to
lisa
spalding.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:,
thank
you
lisa.
All
right
so
will
will
now
go
with
shirley
schaller
and
then
after
surely
I
will
have
kim
pixel
and
neil
anderson.
Surely
the
only
time
you.
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David
ensign,
pb
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he/him:.
Thank
you.
Surely
here's
me
thank
you
sure.
So
up
next
we
have
kim
pixel
will
be
followed
by
neil
anderson
and
then
catherine
walker.
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Katherine
walker:,
the
food
concession
serving
the
reservoir
patrons,
while
the
reservoirs
open
is
what
was
originally
presented
to
us
and
the
planning
board
of
2016
and
2017.
We
are
still
in
supportive,
this
idea,
however,.
This
proposal
is
a
large
scale.
Zoning
change
with
no
public
process
in
truth.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--,
he/him:,
okay,
so
next
we
have
shown
anderson
followed
by
shannon
bryant
and
then
we
don't
see,
I
don't
see
any
more
hands
up.
So
if
you
are
wanting
to
speak
them,
you
can
you
can
still
do
that.
So.
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Sharon
anderson:,
okay,
I
just
want
to
say
that.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:,
since
you
are
muted
and
you
have
camera
with
you,
let's
go
ahead
and
go
with
pamela.
I
did,
I
get
the
last
name
right:
able,
yes,,
you
did
okay.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
thank
you,,
charlotte.
david
ensign,,
pb,
--,
he/him:,
okay,,
so
I'll
just
say
last
call
for
anyone
who
wants
to
put
a
hand
up
otherwise,.
If
I
don't
see
them,,
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
agenda
item
and
then
I'll
ask
the
city.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
all
right,.
Well
with
that,
then,
let's
see
where
are
we
at
time
wise?
Do
people
like
to
take
a
three
minute
break
and
then
we'll
we'll
do
the
deliberation
on
this
one.
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K
Pb,
sarah
silver:,
my
concerns
at
the
golf
course
would
be
different,,
but
we
don't
have
a
specific
thing
at
the
golf
course
right
now
and
velma
park.
Is
you
know,
still
a
concept
and
according
to
the
materials
that
we
saw,
I
can't
remember,
whether
it
was
a
letter
from
a
member
of
the
public
or
in
the
memo.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:,
but
I
do
also
think
that,.
If
you
look
at
really
great
park,
spaces,
a
lot
of
times.
These
places
that
you
can
go,
for
you
know
after
after
you've
been
doing
activities,
go
for
a
bike
and
a
drink
or
whatever
those
can
be
really,
really
nice
amenities,.
So
I
think
that
that.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
I,,
and
I
do
think
that
there
is
through
the
process,
with
the
parks
and
rec
and
and
with
city
council.
If
it's
more
than
a
three
year
lease,
there
is
a
process
to
publicly
examine
each
one,
so
that
does
get
to
it,
but
I,.
But
I
also
heard
the
concerns
about
whether
that
public
process
is.
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Pb,
lupita
d
montoya:.
If
we
can
maybe
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
how
this
will
be
progressing
for
other
places,
and
how
that
really
will
lead
towards
you
know,
a
improvement
in
applying
in
a
negative
way,
equitable
way.
The
boulder
valley,,
because
you
know,
the
volume
rallies,
is
a
very
big
document.
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V
Pb,
lisa
smith:
I'm
either
on
either
side.
I
share
a
lot
of
the
thoughts
I've
heard
from
other
board
members,.
The
the
proposed
language
feels
quite
broad.
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Hella
pannewig
-senior
assistant
city
attorney:,
but
if
it
was
a
principal
use,
that
limitation
was
would
go
away
and
it
could
impact
hours
of
operations,
for
example,.
That
would
be
allowed,
so
that
limiting
factor
would
go
away
and
it
would
be
maybe
a
more
clear
statement
of
what
the
intention
is
of
what
might
be
announced.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:.
Thank
you,
hello.
Okay,
let's
see
so
anyone
who
oh
peter
was
going
to
speak
next,
I
think,
and
then
we'll
go
to
sarah
and
then
I
think,
judging
the
peter
both
have
that
hands
up
so
go
ahead,.
Peter.
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Cob,
karl
guiler:,
it
would
be
reviewed
by
staff
and
then
it,
I
think,
in
this
case,.
It
could
be
something
that
would
have
to
automatically
go
to
planning
board
if
we
write
that
into
the
code,.
But
most
you
serve
us
our
staff
level,
at
with
the
ability
of
the
planning
board
to
call
up
the
application.
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Pb,
john
gerstle:
yeah.
pb,
john
gerstle:,
since
since
hello
was
sort
of
a
responding
to
my
comments.
I
I
thought
I
would
take
that
into
mind
with
with
my
thoughts.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--,
he/him:,
okay,
there,
there
that,,
and
so
the
city
council
would
hear
very
clearly
that
that
the
wording
of
emotion,
were.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
with
that
actually
is,
carl,
an
interesting
question
I
was
thinking
about
so
if
this
ordinance
went
through
his
proposed.
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Cob
karl
guiler:
right,,
so
if,
for
instance,
the
restaurant
at
the
reservoir.
If,
if
the
ordinance
I
got
past
was
was
to
make
it
use
review.
If
I
make
changes
to
that
restaurant
like
make
a
little
expansion
or
change
the
hours
or
things
like
that,
it
would
put
them
under
the
purview
of
of
us
to
review.
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David
ensign,,
pb,
--,
he/him:
more
want
want
them
serving
more
than
just
the
primary
use
of
the
park,.
You
know
some
destination,
that
you
go
to,
even
if
you
aren't
using
the
park
for
something
else,
and
then
you
know
watching
the
sunset
over
the
reserve,
or
whatever
it
all.
Those
things
are
are
definitely
possible.
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Pb,
peter
vitale:,
the
use
review
would
solve
that.
I
was
tracking
that
he
said
something
about
people
can
go
the
reserve
to
do
different
things,
and
what
you
may
consider
it
for
so
I'm
just
trying
to
piggyback
on
that
because
it
caught
my
ear,,
but
I
agree,.
So
no,
I
always
appreciate
it
and
you
help
me.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--,
he/him:
restaurant
usage
just
remained
accessory,,
in
which
case,,
then
it
would
be
set
up,,
sending
people
off
to
do
something
that
you
wouldn't
support.
If
we
tried
to
indicate
that
there
could
be
use
review
pathways
to
make
it
to
allow
it
to
be
something
other
than
accessible
us.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:.
So
how
does
this
sound
and
planning
board.
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B
Hella
pannewig
-senior
assistant
city,
attorney:
principal
a
restaurant
right.
That
is
also
a
decision,
that's
within
the
city's
authority
and
how
each
park
is
programmed,
and
that
goes
through
the
the
parks,
master
planning
process
and
and
the
lease
approvals.
So
so
that
is
to
decision
routes
in
that
regard.
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V
Pb,
lisa
smith:,
I
don't
know
what
do
you
want
to
say,
lack
of
specificity,
lack
of
oversight
need
for
us
to
review
what
are,,
what
are
the.
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Cob,
chris
ranglos:,
it
should
also
be
mentioned
here,,
as
is
the
case
with
all
of
our
department
master
plans.
This
plan
is
also
informed
by
many
other
and
various
city
plans
and
strategies,,
such
as
our
climate
action
plan
or
racial
equity
plan
and
all
of
our
other
department
master
plants.
Next
slide.
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Cob,
chris
ranglos:,
now
these
services,
the
service
standards
for
defining
the
adequacy
of
our
urban
services,.
As
you
probably
know,,
are
included
in
chapter
seven
of
our
comprehensive
plan.
They
established
that
the
city
provides
adequate
facilities
and
services
for
those
that
you
see
listed
on
the
slide.
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AH
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AH
Cob,,
michele
crane::
we
support
individual
departments
carrying
out
their
specific
goals
identified
for
their
buildings
within
the
context
of
the
whole
system.
Through
this
plan,,
we
aim
to
ensure
equity
across
our
building
portfolio,,
as
they
support
delivery
of
a
wide
variety
of
services
to
our
community.
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Cob,,
michele
crane:
currently,
across
all
city
buildings.
We
are
highly
reactive
to
equipment
and
system
failures
and
buildings,,
which
has
resulted,
for
years
now
and
spending
two
times
the
industry
standard
out
of
our
operations
and
maintenance
budgets
to
address
mailing
equipment
that
has
not
been
replaced.
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Cob,,
michele
crane:,
with
adoption
of
the
alpine
balsam
area
plan
council
and
the
city
chose
to
move
forward
with
the
first
phase
of
consolidation
of
buildings,.
This
was
a
step
off
the
calamitous
path
we
are
headed
down
in
the
first
step
in
a
new,,
much
more
strategic
direction
with
our
city,
facilities.
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Cob,,
michele
crane:
yeah,
it's
a
great
question.
Well,
it
changed
the
course
of
our
work
on
this
because
we
were
ready
to
bring
this
to
counsel
just
before
coven
head,,
and
so
it
actually
ended
up
being
a
bit
of
an
opportunity.
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Cob,,
michele
crane:
hear
is.
cob,,
michele
crane:.
No,
it's
a
conservative
estimate
based
on
kind
of
what
we're
seeing
right
now,.
So
I
think
that
potential
could
be
for
more
but
based
on
you
know,
staff
surveys
and
where
we're
we're,
leaning
into
right
now
conservatively
that's
what
we're
thinking
yeah.
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David
ensign,
pb,
--
he/him:,
the
imprint
or
the
live
imprint
on
the
land,.
I
understand
the
square
footage
but
also
like,
if
there's
more
stories,,
perhaps
we
are
taking
up
less
land
which
be
interesting
also,
but
that's
probably
still
too
early
on
that
one
as
well,
or
you
know,
okay,
so
I'll
go
to
sarah.
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Pb,,
sarah
silver:.
We
need
to
come
up
with
a
different
name,
but
we
already
know
that
that's
10s
and
10s
of
millions
of
dollars
for
one
building,.
So
how
much
is
the
consolidation
in
two
campuses
going
to
cost.
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Pb,
lisa
smith:
I'll
just
say:
I've
had
that
it
makes
sense
to
me
to
consolidate,
and
I
mean
about
a
third
of
our
greenhouse
gases-
are
embodied
in
the
buildings
that
we
have
so
cleaning
them
up
makes
sense,
on
many,
many
levels,.
In
addition
to
saving
money.
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AH
AH
Cob,
michele
crane:,
which
the
city
could
vacate
and
then
that
allows
really
counseling
planning
board
to
reactivate
planning
processes
around
the
east
book
and
which
had
been
paused
because
the
cities
in
those
buildings
at
the
moment,
and
so,,
then
that
really
kind
of
resurfaces
in
a
planning.
Process.
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A
david
ensign,,
pb
--
he/him:
any
other
questions
any
more
questions.
I
was,
I
had
a
question
on
the
existing
facility
assets.
Management.
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Cob,,
michele
crane:,
that's
those
are
the
range
of
dollars
that
we're
talking
about,,
but
I
do
hesitate
to
say,
there's
a
real
construction
costs
right
now.
It's
just
it's!
It's
a
lot
more
detailed
than
that,,
so
I
don't
want
to
get
pinned
on
a
number,,
but
I
do
appreciate
wanting
to
understand
order
of
magnitude.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
and
I
guess
I'll
just
say
it's
my
perception
to
that
when
I
look
at
master
plans.
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A
David
ensign,,
pb,
--
he/him:,
so
you'll
be
getting
the
same
questions,
but
when
I
look
at
other
master
plans,,
there
are
things
that
do
imply
they're
going
to
because
when
you're
looking
at
transportation,
there's
all
these
roads
laid
out
and.
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Y
Y
Y
Cob
karl
guiler:
is
that
there's
very
few
sites
in
boulder
that
would
even
be
eligible
for
this.
It's
a
lot
of
regulations
that
we
probably
need
to
add
to
the
code.
It's
very
important
for
public
health,
safety
and
welfare,,
but
very
few
properties
that
could
even
meet
the
standards
or
actually
meet
the.
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David
ensign,
pb
--
he/him:
great.
Thank
you
so
much
excellent,
excellent
work
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
lisa
had
to
had
to
drop
and-
and
I
think
the
following
message-
I
repeat:
guests-
work
on
oil
and
gas
development,
fracking
greg's
in
light
of
the
new.