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City of Boulder Planning Board 4-15-21
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jean
gatza,
moderator,
(she/her):
great,
thank
you
david
and
thanks
for
everybody,
for
being
here
tonight,
looks
like
we've
got
quite
a
few
folks
here
for
the
meeting,
so
thanks
glad
you're
here
to
to
watch
the
meeting
and
participate.
So
in
order
to
keep
these
meetings
respectful
and
orderly,,
we
have
a
few
items
of
protocol.
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jean
gatza,
moderator
(she/her):,
any
activities
that
disrupt
the
layer
interfere
with
the
meeting
are
prohibited,
and
just
as
if
it
were,
would
be.
If
we
were
meeting
in
person,
the
time
for
speaking
or
asking
questions
is
limited
so
either
I
or
david
the
board
chair.
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david
ensign,
--,
he/him:
who's
attending,
who
wishes
to
speak
will
get
three
minutes
maximum.
This
is
for
anything
that
is
not
does
not
have
a
public
hearing
on
our
agenda
tonight,.
So
we
have
a
public
hearing
for
items
related
to
the
cheyenne
mountain
waldorf,
school
site,
review
and
and
related.
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david
ensign,
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he/him:,
which
is
that
the
public
consent
presentations
to
us
in
advance
and
then
we'll
we'll
take
a
look
at
aligning
with
city
council
when
we
get
a
chance
to
discuss
this
in
matters
either
tonight,
or
an
upcoming
meeting,.
So
I
apologize
to
the
public.
If
that
was
confusing
to
you,,
we
did
receive.
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--
david
ensign,
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he/him:,
we'll
make
sure
to
bring
those
up
and
look
at
them,.
While
you
speak
so
feel
free
to
reference.
Those
pictures,
we
will
see
them
and
those
will
also
become
part
of
the
public
record.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
is
it
gene,,
then
that
will
be
calling
on
people,
thank
you,,
jim.
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Ron
depugh:,
those
millions
of
boulder
tax
dollars
are
needed
for
improving
citywide
infrastructure.
That
will
end
will
benefit
city
residents,,
as
well
as
provide
for
affordable
housing,
boulder
traffic
mitigation,
climate
action,
long
overdue
maintenance
on
open
space
lands
and
also
city,
streets,,
etc.
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Brookie
gallagher:
the
data
for
the
graphs
or
the
distances
between
7000,
south
boulder
structures
and
the
existing
darley
station
and
the
distances
between
the
structures
and
the
proposed
see
you
south
station.
Currently,
the
majority
of
south
boulder
homes
are
less
than
one
mile
from
the
spire
station.
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david
ensign,
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he/him:
graphs
to
go
with
the
presentation
you
just
heard,.
I
also
want
to
it
occurred
to
me
and
now
a
couple
board
members
have
also
reminded
me.
There
are
a
couple
of
folks
on
our
board
who
are
going
to
be
recused
for
the
section
on
css.
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--
david
ensign,
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he/him:,
and
so
my
assumption
was
that
we
don't
want
you
to
not
hear
things
not
related
to
see
you
south
that
people
might
be
addressing
during
public
comment.
But
hello,
is
it
okay
if
they
these
folks
stay
on
as
long
as
the
agreement
is
that
that
recuse
folks
do
not
comment
on
these.
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Paula
moseley
she/her:.
I
know
I'm
not
following
everything
every
day,
city
and
county
and
all
that,,
but
I
feel
like
if
it
had
been
made
for
clear
longer
ago.
I
wouldn't
have
noticed
that,
what's
being
proposed,,
there
is
something
the
size
of
the
current
main
campus
on
that
spot
in
cell
folder.
It
just.
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david
ensign,
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he/him:,
so
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
ask
planning
board
members
if
they
have
any
ex
parte
communication
and
potential
conflicts
of
interest
to
this
to
disclose.
I
did
a
nothing
other
than
a
walkthrough
of
the
site
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Anyone
else
have
anything
to
disclose.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,
cob:
the
high
school
site,
which
again
its
proposed
in
phase
one,
includes
classrooms
of
visual
and
practical
arts
facilities.
It's
approximately
14,000
square
feet.
It's
essentially
intended
to
frame
the
open
space
that
also
opens
up
to
serve
the
town
home
site,,
the
festival
hall
addition.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,
cob:,
interesting
and
wonderful
and
then
for
the
townhomes
17
townhomes,.
As
I
mentioned,
the
site
plan
is
proposed
with
detached
garage.
Is
this
access
lane
there's
small
open
spaces
within
the
town
home
site
itself
and
there's
also
design
guidelines
that
will
talk
a
little
bit
about.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,,
cob:
and
also,
if
the
nature
of
occupancy
will
not
change,
and
so
in
that
regard,
as
detailed
in
the
parking
management
plan.
There's
adequate
parking
provided
through
73
proposed
parking
spaces
67
on
street
parking
spaces.
There
16
on
street
drop
off
and
pick
up
spaces,
as
well
as
19
off
street.
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Elaine
mclaughlin,
cob:,
looking
at
this
evening's
another
housekeeping
item,
that's
been
recommended
to
council
quite
some
time,
ago,,
which
was
the
disposal
and
conveyance
of
vacated
ninth
street
to
the
school,.
It
was
never
fully
completed,
the
vacation
was
done,,
but
this
disposal
process
needs
an
official.
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john
gerstle:
recreational
space
around
the
school,
the
way
its
proposed
now
compared
to
what
one
might
expect,
for
a
you
know:
kindergarten
through
high
school
school.
So
I'm
just
wondering
do
they
have
any
sort
of
plans
or
of
using
the
nearby
park
for
their
recreational
needs,,
particularly
given
the.
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Mary
eaton
fairfield,
applicant:.
I
want
to
thank
each
of
you
on
the
planning
board,
the
city,
council
and
staff
for
your
work
and
diligence,
to
help
us
develop
this
project
for
the
good
of
our
school
and
for
north
boulder.
Thank
you
adrian.
So,
for
will
now
continue
with
our
presentation
thanks
so
much.
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Adrian
sopher,,
applicant:
and
flood
protection
was
of
course,
a
concern
as
well,
since
that
time,
these
concerns
went
to
city
council,,
but
before
before,
city
council
call
up
hearing
actually
happened.
The
school
was
approached
by
a
major
donor
that
said,
you
know,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
keep
more
land.
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Adrian
sopher,
applicant:,
discreetly,
to
the
open
space
on
the
inbound
side
of
the
garden.
The
outer
section
of
the
of
the
of
the
of
the
building
has
support
spaces
that
include
facilities
for
dance,
handicrafts,
music,,
etc,,
and
you
can
see
a
sorry.
I
keep
sliding
back
and
forth
here.
The
entry
to
the.
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Adrian
sopher,
applicant::
well,
we
actually
have
front
doors
on
the
street,
and
let
me
see
I'm
sorry
moment.
Here.
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Adrian
sopher,
applicant:
what
the
design
guidelines
would
be:
what,
however,
the
townhouses
in
the
end,,
get
shaped.
They
will
all
have
front
doors
in
front
porches
facing
the
street,.
They
will
all
have
rear
access
for
their
garages
and
there
are
a
few
other
elements
that
we've
identified,,
but
those
are
the
key
points.
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Jane
zeender:
yes,,
it's
jane
and
florian
zehnder,
my
husband
and
we
are
homeowners
at
696.
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Daniel
falk
and
oriana
falk:
yes,
hi
thank
you.,
daniel
falk
and
oriana
falk:
hi.
My
name
is
daniel
fault
and
I'm
very
proud
and
happy
number
of
the
shiny
mountain
school
in
your
parents.
I
reside
at
1528
pacific
avenue
in
north
pole
here
and
I've
taken
the
time
to
read
the
school's
application
and
in
full
support
of
all
the
elements
of
the
schools.
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Daniel
falk
and
oriana
falk:,
a
wonderful
corpus
feeling
there
and
a
supportive
atmosphere,.
It
was
a
heartfelt
experience
for
us
to
see
the
immediate
awareness
that
our
soon
to
be
first
grader
who's
here
with
me
now
in
second
grade,
had
with
her
potential
first
grade
teacher
and
the
nurturing
care
that
she
conveyed.
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Claudia
hanson
thiem:
and
in
fact,
that
the
library
and
retail
coming
at
the
armory
it's
getting
closer
to
being
a
five
minute
neighborhood,
but
there's
not
much
point
in
gathering
these
pieces
of
community
together.
If
we
continue
to
put
strict
limits
on
the
number
and
types
of
people
who
can
live
near
them.,.
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Jordan
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jacobsen:
and
I'm
hopeful
that
the
city
can
approve
our
plan
to
move
forward
and
sell
the
land
that's
necessary
for
the
school
to
way
to
sell
in
order
to
pay
for
the
campus
that
will
fit
the
the
wonderful
education
that
I
and
so
many
other
students
have
received
at
a
school,.
Thank
you
very
much.,.
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Susan
hilliard:,
as
you
could
hear,
from
the
presentations
to
environmental
sustainability
by
designing
buildings
and
efficient
with
efficient
and
durable
materials
and
systems
that
reduce
energy
use
and
our
long
lasting.
We
consider
ourselves
stewards
of
the
land
and
will
care
for
it
for
years
to
come..
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Bill
kramer:
and,,
but
I've
come
to
recognize
waldorf
education
as
an
absolutely
necessary
part
of
our
educational
system,.
The
values
that
are
on
display
every
day
at
shining
mountain
are
incredibly
important
to
the
future
of
our
world,.
One
of
those
aspects
that
I
want
to
to
to
point
out
is
sustainability.
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david
ensign,
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he/him:
thank
you,
bill
great.
So
yes,
so
now
that's
a.
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john
gerstle:
mentioned
that
issue
and
and
addressed
it
in
a
reasonable
way,
but
I
do
think
that
we
should
acknowledge
the
what
we're
doing
there.
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john
gerstle:
right
and.
pb
--
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
We
can
talk
about
that
more
so
yeah.
Any
anybody
else
want
to
go,.
I
could
certainly.
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lisa
smith:
yeah,
I
agree
overall,
it's
it
seems
consistent.
I
didn't
have
any
major
concerns
around
it.
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jorge
boone:
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hi,
hey,
I
kind
of
a
thought,
which
was
you
know.
The
annexation
agreement
agrees
to
two
stories
there
for
I'm
starting
to
floors,
and
I
get
the
35
foot
limit
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smith:
look
a
little
more
along
broadway.
I
try
not
to
bring.
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peter
vitale:
have
experienced
on
the
board,
is
sometimes
making
something
smaller
doesn't
make
it
less
expensive.
It
just
makes
it
find
your
finishes
and
as
much
per
square
foot
costs
and
making
it
bigger
can
actually
be
less
per
square
foot.
Because,,
though
this
market,
we
know,
can
bear
a
great
deal.
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david
ensign,
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he/him:,
great.,
pb,
--,
david
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
alright.,
pb,
--,
david
ensign,
--,
he/him:
and
john
makes
a
second
motion,
which
is
to
approve
use
review
case
number
2020
dash,
000
26,
incorporating
the
staff
memorandum
and
attached
use
review
criteria.
Checklist
is
finding
the
fact
and
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
recommended
in
the
staff
member
random.
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Adrian
sopher,
applicant:,
first
of
all,
remember,,
we
can't
do
a
basement
here
because
of
flood
issues
so
having
that
third
floor
allows
for
a
common
space
to
support
a
family,.
These
are
three
bedroom
units
and
they're
about
1600
and
50
square
feet
of
peace
with
a
single
car
garage.
So
we're
not
talking
about.
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sarah
silver:
that
that
dan,
this
national
speaker
could
present
could
speak
to.
Although
jacob
and
staff
could,-
and
I
think,
from
my
own
personal
belief,
is.
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david
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
okay,,
great.,
phil,
kleisler,
(cob):
yeah,
I
feel
chrysler
planning
and
development
services.
We
really
appreciate
your
time
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen,.
This
is
an
update
and
board
discussion
on
the
see
us
on
the
direction
and
overall
focus
of
the
cu
south
annexation
negotiations.
Pull
this
up.
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Phil
kleisler
(cob):,
okay,
perfect,
so
yes,
we
visited
with
them
once
and
then
we
also
visited
them
a
second
time,
with
this
new
information,
that.
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sarah
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so
I.
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sarah
silver::
how
did
it's
not
a
challenge,?
I
just
don't
understand
how
you
reach
that
conclusion
that
there
would
not
be
enough
south
heading
a
traffic
to
require
a
single
there,
because
it's,
I
can't
imagine
how
anyone
could
cross
that
street
in
their
car
and
not
get
not
get
into
a
car
accident.
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Bill
fox,
applicant:
there
from
end
to
end
unless
there's
you
know,,
unless
it's
a
transit
vehicle
or
something-
and
we
haven't
worked
on
that
those
those
tools
to
make
that
happen,
because
the
site
plan
is
not
that
far
along.
But
there
needs
to
be
something
significant
to
prevent
that
throughput
from
happening.
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Pb
--
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
You
could
almost
consider
residents
meeting
to
some
point,
scan
a
card
and
open
a
gate
to
get
past
a
certain
place.
You
know,,
and
so
you
have
your
resident
card.
You
go
through,,
but
if
you're,
not
a
resident,,
you
have
to
you
know
kind
of
stick
to
the
side
that
you
entered
an
exit
from
her.
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--
david
ensign,
--
he/him:
great,
so
time
is
moving
along
here.
Does
anybody
have
any
any
last.
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sarah
silver:
me
to
understand
what
that
means
in
terms
of
what
what,
if
a,
if
a
purchaser
has
to
come
through
the
city
processes
and
it's
on
public
land,
what
are,?
What
is
it?
What
are
the,?
I
guess,.
I
can
look
in
nine
dash
six
dash
one,
but
does
that
allow?
What
does
that
allow
another
university
or.
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sarah
silver:
abide
by
our
regulations
or
development
regulations,,
and
that
is
just
what
it
is,,
but
if
a
portion
or
all
of
the
land,
were
to
be
sold
to
an
entity
that
is
not
a
state
entity,
I
don't
feel
that
they
should
benefit
from
the
developmental
development
rights
or
development.
Opportunity.
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sarah
silver:,
but
when
a
developer,,
if
I
get
if,
if
I
apply
okay,
I
applied
to
build
something
in
tv
app
and
I
get
to
the
rights
to
do
go
through
the
process,.
I
get
the
right
to
do.
That,
I
can
sell
those
to
the
next
developer,
who
builds,
who
can
build
what
that
was
approved.
That's
where
I'm
trying
to.
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Phil
kleisler
(cob):.
No,
I
didn't
have
a
separate
category
for
it.
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sarah
silver:
okay,,
so
first
of
all,
thank
you
so
much
for
adding
that
section.
I
think
that
was
an
incredibly
important
and
valuable
because
I
think
we
were
all
kind
of
in
the
dark.
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kleisler
(cob):,
so
there's
quite
a
bit
of
more
things
and
I.
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--
david
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
well.,
pb,
--,
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
Let's
just
go
ahead
and
take
a
quick
straw
poll,
who
would
like
to
keep
going
tonight.
Just
the
you
know,
the
advantage
would
be,.
You
know
that
we
get
to
counsel
for
this
meeting
next
tuesday
right
so
and
who
would
like
to
potentially
wait
to
finish
the
other
two
subjects
in
may.
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--
david
ensign,
--
he/him:.
I
had
a
question
on
the
building
height,.
It
looks
like
we're
pretty
much
reproducing
the
language
in
the
city
that
the
city
uses
to
calculate
height
and
just
and
just
taking
that
right
into
the
annexation,
agreement,.
So
the
same
formula:
okay,
cool
yeah,.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
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Phil
kleisler
(cob):,
and
so
it
gives
us
the
latitude.,
phil,
kleisler
(cob):
and
right
now
we're
looking
to
get
a
90
day
review
for
the
master
plan
and
60
days,,
for
I
think,
development,
plans,
and
so
the
90
days,.
But
our
planning
board
in
council
review,
probably,
and
then
I
think
60
would
be
probably
one
or
the
other
very
quick..
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Phil
kleisler
(cob):
we'd
also
envision
removing
the
existing
levee
system
to
reconnect
the
floodplain
and
connect
to
be
jason,
open
space
lands
and
everything
I
just
said-
is
there
in
concept
and
we're
starting
to
work
through
the
details,,
but
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
would
need
to
be
worked.
Out.
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Phil
kleisler
(cob):
and
it
included
really
items
one
through
three
that
I
just
mentioned,
also
mentioned
that
the
boundary
to
this
area
is
roughly
the
500
year
flood
plain
and
we
did
a.
We
have
agreed
that,
on
the
site
and
total.
No,
no
enclosed
structures
will
be
located
in
a
100
or
500
year.
Flood
plain.
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john
gerstle:
be
done
in
the
best
and
most
efficacious
way
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
and
so,.
For
that
reason,
I'm
I'm
very
eager
to
continue
this
discussion
with
phil
on
on
the
20th
of
may,,
because
that'll
be
useful
for
us,,
because
we
need
that
information
to
make
our
recommendation
to
counsel.