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Okay,
so
the
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
public
participation,
and
this
this
item
is
for
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
Planning
Board
on
any
item-
that's
not
on
the
agenda
tonight.
So
tonight
we
have
in
for
call
up
items.
Today
we
have
a
couple
of
columns
and
our
public
hearing
is
or
the
form
based
code
review
for
three
zero:
zero
one
pearl
Parkway.
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So
if
you
want
to
speak
to
that,
you
have
to
speak
to
the
pearl
Parkway
matter
after
we've
heard
the
presentation
for
that.
But
if
you
have
any
public
comment
to
make
on
any
other
item,
then
you're
welcome
to
do
so
now.
Do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
signed
up?
Okay,
anybody
want
to
speak
to
any
matter.
That
is
not
on
the
agenda
right
now.
Okay,
then
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
participation
section,
move
on
to
the
discussion
of
disposition,
this
Planning
Board
call
ups
and
continuations.
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Anybody
have
any
comments
or
questions
about
those
call.
Ups,
okay,
okay,
then
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
public
hearing.
We
have
one
item
on
the
public
agenda
tonight.
This
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
a
form-based
code
review
application
number
L.
You
are
2019
triple-a
28,
it's
for
the
second
sequence
of
redevelopment
for
the
30
Perl
site
generally
located
at
3,000
won
and
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
Charles.
Thanks.
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Charles
good
evening,
everyone
I'm
just
gonna,
start
with
a
brief
overview
of
where
we're
headed
this
evening.
I'm
gonna
go
over
the
process
to
date,
which
is
actually
got
some
formidable
background.
There
we'll
look
at
the
planning
context
in
the
build
context
and
we'll
do
a
light
touch
on
the
proposed
project,
hoping
that
the
applicant
will
carry
that.
The
key
issues
for
this
evening
are
pretty
simple.
Is
it
does
this
meet
the
foreign
base
code
and,
if
not,
does
it
meet
the
criteria
for
exceptions?
F
That
density
in
the
place
making
that'll
make
for
a
successful
transit
oriented
development,
so
teve
app
was
adopted
in
2007
and
the
intent
was
to
transform
it
to
a
higher
density.
Mixed
use,
urban
neighborhood
in
two
phases
and
to
help
address
our
jobs,
housing
imbalance
and
one
of
the
key
issues
in
the
transit
village
area
plan
was
to
provide
for
affordable
housing.
So
it
was
adopted
as
part
of
the
T.
Bop
was
a
connections
plan,
as
this
area
had
been
large
super
blocks
and
it
was
a
way
to
break
up.
F
The
large
super
blocks,
create
greater
connectivity
and
that
then
became
part
of
the
transportation
master
plan.
So
these
roadways
that
were
approved
in
our
last
go-around
have
been
planned
for
in
this
location
since
2007,
and
then
it's
important
to
note
that,
after
that,
the
city
did
do
a
concept
plan
on
this
site,
although
the
primary
emphasis
is
on
the
Transit
Center
and
after
that
both
Council
and
Planning
Board
weighed
in
and
then
the
city
also
invested
in
a
number
of
infrastructure
improvements
and
not
the
least
of
which
is
the
pearl
Parkway
multi-way
Boulevard.
F
That
was
intended
to
allow
nick
euler
movement,
but
also
allow
for
a
safe,
shared
space
for
peds
and
bicyclists.
And
then
the
city
also
constructed
the
multi,
a
rather
the
shared
street
of
junction
place,
and
the
idea
was
to
create
a
seamless
transition
in
the
slowed
street,
so
people
could
cross
from
what
is
the
depot
square
to
the
park,
and
so
that
was
awesome
implemented
by
the
city
and
then
finally,
the
city
also
put
in
the
goose
creek
bridge
to
actually
create
a
bridge
between
both
sides
of
Boulder
Junction.
F
Note
that
the
subject
property
that's
outlined
is
in
red
is
mixed
use
under
the
Transit
Village,
and
the
vision
of
this
redevelopment
is
to
be
essentially
three
and
four-story
mixed-use
buildings
so
fairly
large
buildings,
and
this
the
land
use
typology
is
also,
in
this
case
consistent
with
B
vcp
policies
that
indicate
that
the
city
is
going
to
encourage
well-designed
mixed-use
and
higher
density
development.
It
also
have
a
substantial
amount
of
affordable
housing
in
proximity
to
transit
and
multimodal
corridors.
F
So
that
then
translated
that
comprehensive
rezoning
that
I
mentioned
in
the
mid-2000s
to
MU
four
as
mixed-use
residential
areas
generally
intended
for
residential
use
with
neighborhood
serving
retail
and
offices,
also
anticipated
it'll,
be
in
a
pedestrian
oriented
pattern
with
buildings
built
up
to
the
street.
So
really
emphasizing
that
urban
configuration
that
then
the
form
based
code
was
adopted
to
establish.
F
So
when
we
zero
in
at
this
now
five
point
four
or
five
acre
site
itself,
you
can
see,
of
course,
today
it's
a
vacant
parking
lot.
It
was
the
Pollard
Motor
Company
dealership
until
recently
and
we'll
just
walk
around
the
site,
as
we
did
with
the
initial
sequence
of
development,
just
to
get
our
head
around
what
the
context
is
and
as
you'll
note
going
through
these
images,
it's
really
clearly
a
horizontal
mix
of
uses.
A
very
well
fine-grained
defined,
horizontal
mix
of
uses,
walkable
context
for
this
site.
F
So
when
the
Board
approved
that
initial
sequence
of
redevelopment
on
the
site
earlier
this
year
in
quadrants,
two
and
four,
it
included
120
permanently
affordable
residential
units
for
individuals
with
thirty
to
sixty
percent
area
median
income,
as
well
as
a
below
grade
parking
structure,
to
know
Paseos
and
also
approved
for
those
two
new
streets
that
are
shown
in
the
project
plans.
So
and,
as
you
can
see,
it
got
fleshed
out,
and
this
was
what
was
approved.
But
then
for
tonight's
discussion.
F
The
remaining
parcels
that
are
proposed
to
infill
the
final
pieces
of
redevelopment
will
will
drill
down
to
take
a
look
at
what
the
thirty
pearl
neighborhood
in
totality
will
look
like
and
planned
in
its
entirety
or
292
residential
units
with
40
percent
or
120
units
that
are
the
permanently
affordable.
The
remaining
parcels
include
the
eight
buildings
with
buildings.
F
One
a
B
and
C
that
are
planned
is
seventy
seven
market
rate
residential
units
between
the
three
of
them
and
then
ground-floor
retail
that
faces
30th,
Street,
there's
also
below
grade
parking
below
this
quadrant
one
and
then
buildings.
Three,
a
and
B
up
on
the
north
Lichter
plan
with
58
residential
units
between
the
two
of
them
for
a
is
29
units
of
residential
and
then
the
townhomes
that
are
adjacent
to
the
park
are
10
residential
units.
F
So
for
this
particular
sequence,
it's
a
hundred
and
seventy
two
units,
along
with
roughly
18,000
square
feet
of
commercial
space.
That's
intended
to
be
retail,
restaurant
or
entertainment
and
including
affordable
retail
space.
So
there's
also
these
two
new
Paseos
connections
and
construction
of
the
planned
pocket
park.
So
key
issues
for
tonight,
or
whether
or
not
the
project's
consistent
with
the
foreign
base
code,
as
I
noted
and
we'll
start
with
that.
First
key
issue
and
we
begin
with
the
regulatory
plan
on
foreign
base
code,
which
identifies
specific
functional
aspects
for
the
site.
F
In
this
case,
the
required
building
typology
for
quadrant
one
is
Main
Street,
storefront
building
and
that's
defined
as
a
highly
pedestrian
oriented
mixed-use,
building
with
ground
story,
storefront
required
among
all
type
a
streets,
and
it
defines
that
as
personal
service,
retail,
dining
entertainment
and
that's
intended
to
provide
activity
and
upper
storeys
are
flexible,
parkings
at
the
rear
or
off
site.
And
there
is
a
requirement
for
storefront
at
30th
and
pearl
Parkway,
or
rather
30th,
yes,
and
returning
to
30
pearl
Parkway
and
for
building
1a.
It's
that
view
shed.
F
That
must
be
maintained
and
that's
why
it's
primarily
three
stories
for
that.
First,
building
and
there's
also
that
new
type,
a
street
frontage
that
is
now
considered
the
new
Spruce
Street,
as
well
as
type
B
Street,
which
is
the
new
31st
Street,
also
approved
last
go-round,
and
then
there's
Paseo
requirements
as
well
as
a
multi-use
path
requirement.
So
there's
a
lot
of
different
plan
elements
that
are
required
from
this
regulating
plan
for
that
first
quadrant
in
particular
the
rest
of
the
site's,
a
general
building
type
and
that's
what
we
looked
at
Alaska
around.
F
It's
essentially
serves
as
urban
fabric.
It's
a
basic
building
type.
It's
considered
to
be
built
along
the
sidewalk
with
different
uses
and
there's
a
portion
of
the
building
for
a
that's
a
long
Junction
place.
That's
required
to
be
four-story,
so
you
see
that
step
up
in
the
building
as
we
go
through
the
images
there's
also
the
waterfront
type,
a
frontage,
that's
actually
along
Goose
Creek.
F
So
that's
intended
to
be
somewhat
like
the
type,
a
Street
and
then,
of
course,
31st
Street
is
the
type
B
there's
Paseo
requirements,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
the
regulating
plan
identified
this
spot
as
the
pocket
park.
So
when
we
look
at
the
site
itself,
you
can
see
that
it
meets
the
regular
regulating
plan
requirements,
particularly
for
those
plan
lines,
as
we
talked
about
with
regard
to
consistency
with
the
foreign-based
code
for
the
site.
F
All
of
the
buildings
meet
the
form
based
code
elements,
and
there
is
a
request
for
some
exceptions
that
I'll
go
over
in
just
a
little
bit.
Buildings,
3
and
B
are
designed
as
three
and
four-story
buildings
that
are
located
between
that
new
Spruce
Street
and
the
goose
creek
corridor,
and
both
are
proposed
with
red
brick
as
the
major
material
along
with
metal
panel,
a
little
bit
of
wood
composite
in
frosted
glass
as
a
minor
material,
and
this
was
found
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
form-based
code
along
with
those
other
key
requirements.
F
There's
some
minor
exceptions
to
form
based
code
and
then
we'll
we'll
go
over
those
in
the
next
key
issue
and
then
I'll
just
go
through
a
couple.
More
of
the
sort
of
batched
images
of
these
planned
buildings,
forays
at
the
corner
of
junction
place
and
Spruce
Street,
also
a
three
enforcer.
A
building
in
that
three
stories
really
is
intended
to
ensure
that
that
view
shed
corridor
is
maintained
per
the
form
base
code
and
the
majority
of
the
materials
meet
the
form
base
code
for
major
and
minor
materials
again
with
brick,
wood
composite.
F
This
is
a
different
type
of
like
a
dark,
plum,
color,
brick
and
gray.
So
there's
variations
in
the
color
of
brick.
That's
going
to
be
employed.
It
meets
the
requirements,
as
noted
in
the
previous
four
streetscape
standards,
where
you
locate
parking
the
number
of
stories
etc,
and
there
are
some
exceptions
requested
for
building
for
a
the
townhomes,
are
located
fronting
the
park.
F
So
there's
a
lot
of
connectivity
inherent
in
the
park
in
terms
of
consistency
with
the
code
there's
a
little
more
than
half
an
acre
that
meets
the
minimum
maximum
size,
there's
more
than
the
minimum
amount
of
street
frontage.
The
playground
will
be
provided.
Imperviousness
is
providing
access
to
the
open
water
is
going
to
remain.
It's
currently
developed,
but
it's
planned
to
include
the
natural
landscape.
Shaded
seating
nature
play
in
a
turf,
mod
and
specific
programming
is
intended
to
occur
at
technical
document
in
concert
with
city
park
staff
and
the
applicant.
F
So
four
key
issue
number
two
of
the
questions.
If
the
board
finds
the
requested
exceptions
meet
the
criteria
and
just
as
a
reminder,
they
can
be
granted
if
it's
consistent
with
teve
app
and
won't
create
adverse
impacts
and
if
there's
site
conditions
or
if
there's
site
conditions
that
weren't
created
by
the
applicant
and
make
it
impractical
to
do
the
form
based
code
or
if
the
alternative
is
the
minimum,
to
provide
relief.
F
So
for
quadrant,
one,
the
applicants
requesting
the
use
of
semi
permeable
pavers
through
the
pedestrian
travel
way
and
Paseos
instead
of
concrete
and
as
the
applicant
noted,
the
use
of
pavers
to
replace
gray
concrete,
achieves
the
intent
of
pedestrian
movement,
but
also
allows
for
semi
pervious
surface
on
this
site.
And
you
can
see
when
you
overlay
the
parking
structure
or,
in
this
case
underlay
the
parking
structure.
You
can
see
that
there's
a
challenge
with
trying
to
achieve
pervious
nough
swen.
F
To
illustrate
this.
So,
in
both
cases,
the
exception
is
due
to
the
challenge
and
meeting
another
standard
which
is
ensuring
that
the
buildings
don't
exceed
a
maximum
150
foot
length.
So
you
can
see
that
the
building
is
150
feet,
but
where
that
roadway
is
established
is
a
little
bit
longer.
So
with
that
approved
alignment
for
31st
Street
and
30th,
it's
not
possible
for
that
building
to
touch
both
sides
of
that
build
to
zone.
So
what
the
applicant
did
is
they?
F
They
shifted
the
building
more
to
30th
Street
and
gave
a
more
generous
setback
along
31st
Street,
as
essentially
a
buffer
and
staff
finds
that
this
exception
is
consistent
with
T
vApp
again
it
ensures
that
there's
shorter
building
lengths
and
more
compact
development,
but
still
allows
for
an
interesting
streetscape
and
the
setbacks
not
significantly
greater
and
then
further
the
north
side
of
building
3
B
and
the
townhomes
also
require
exceptions
to
the
build
2
zone.
For
that
type.
F
A
frontage
along
this
week
and
in
this
case
staff
finds
the
exception
standards
met
because
of
that
existing
public
service
Excel
PCSO
easement,
that's
shown
in
blue,
so
that
overlaps
the
bill
to
Zone
in
the
north,
and
so
obviously
we
can
encroach
with
buildings
into
the
PS
Coe
easement.
So
we
have
noted
that
this
wasn't
an
individual
condition
that
was
created
by
the
applicant,
so
it
makes
it
impractical
and
as
an
acceptable
exception,
and
then
it's
also
important
to
note
that
in
this
case
the
Goose
Creek
corridor
is
further
down
from
the
site.
F
So
there's
not
as
much
of
a
relationship
between
this
type,
a
type
of
street
and
this
building
3
and
3
B,
then,
on
the
north
side
of
building
1c,
the
applicant
is
requesting
exception
to
allow
for
residential
and
a
portion
of
that
Spruce
Street
that
new
Spruce
Street,
so
instead
of
it
being
retail
down
along
the
entire
Spruce
Street,
just
the
first
42
feet
are,
and
it
wraps
of
course
along
30th
Street,
and
that
exception
also
is
susat
ated
to
be
less
of
a
window.
Transparency.
F
Architectural
articulation,
particularly
on
the
first
floor.
So
there
is
a
differentiation
between
the
first
and
second
floor.
It
creates
that
architectural,
dynamic
and
staff
finds
that
it
meets
that
criteria,
and
then
there
is
an
exception
to
how
the
wood
walls,
how
a
window
fits
into
the
wood
walls,
there's
a
requirement
in
the
gap
that
the
depth
be
2
inches
and
in
this
case
it's
less
than
2
inches
and
the
applicants
indicated
they're
utilizing
an
essentially
a
nailing
fin
and
they
can
help
explain
this
a
little
bit
better
than
I
can.
F
But
the
intent
is
for
better
waterproofing
in
this
case,
there's
also
a
metal
fin
that
they're
using
in
this
context,
and
it
helps
create
that
shadow
line.
That's
the
intent
of
this
recess,
because
this
is
used
in
the
wood
composite
material,
which
is
considered
a
minor
material
in
all
the
applications.
It
seems
like
a
reasonable
exception
and
it's
still
again
most
of
the
deep
recesses
would
be
in
the
pedestrian
zone
and
consistent
with
teve
up
and
then
finally,
there's
an
exception.
That's
necessary
for
the
transformer
location.
It's
a
regional
transformer
along
30th
Street.
F
The
applicant
is
treated
it
with
a
really
interesting
architectural
element
to
screen
it
and
again
it's
there's
a
certain
impracticality
in
relocating
this
regional
transformer
and
with
that
public
notification,
it's
important
to
note
has
the
requirements
of
943
have
been
met.
There
were
no
public
comments
received
on
this
and,
with
that
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
Elaine.
So
this
is
our
chance
as
the
Planning
Board,
to
ask
specific
questions
of
staff
and
try
to
make
them
specific
and
succinct.
If
you
have
questions
and
if,
if
you
can
anticipate
that
they
would
be
kind
of
nitty-gritty
design,
questions
that
would
be
better
held
for
the
applicant
just
hold
them
for
the
applicant
and
you
can
ask
out
for
the
applicants
presentations.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions?
John.
G
B
F
Well,
let
me
pop
open
the
and
some
exhibits.
This
is
between
1b
and
1c,
and
there
is
that
passe.
Oh,
that
goes
between
buildings,
1b
and
1c,
and
the
Paseos
have
to
be
open
and
they
are
required
to
have
a
public
access,
easement
dedicated
as
part
of
the
conditions
of
approval.
So
that
is
a
necessity.
That
is
a
requirement
so.
F
That
one
doesn't
necessitate
a
public
access
easement,
and
this
is
again
based
on
the
form
based
code
and
what's
required,
what
are
the
required
connections
that
are
allowed
to
be
open
to
the
public?
To
say,
I
was
open
to
the
public
pearl
Parkway
is
open
to
the
public
and
31st
Street,
and
those
are
essentially
150
foot
increments,
that
someone
can
get
to
quite
easily
and
whether
or
not
between
a
and
B
would
be
open.
I,
don't
know
it
wasn't
something
that
staff
focused
on
again,
because
it's
not
part
of
the
farm
base
code,
so.
E
I
think
we
just
followed
the
adopted
connections.
Plan
meant
evap.
That
was
reflected
in
the
farm
based
code,
so
everywhere
there
was
meant
to
be
planned.
Public
connections
were
achieving
planned
public
connections.
So
there's
some
ancillary
connections
between
buildings.
Those
aren't
required
to
be
public
because
they
didn't
require,
or
they
didn't
up
here
in
the
adopted
network
plan.
You.
F
B
Okay,
and
so
in
with
respect
to
the
to
those
which
are
intended
to
be
public
and
which
are
expressly
stated
so
who
is
responsible
for
enforcing
that?
It
stays
open
and
I.
Ask
this
because,
as
Charles
knows,
I've
been
concerned
about
other
projects
in
which
there
was
an
intention
to
keep
a
public
path
open
for
pedestrians
and
it's
been
gated
and
there
seems
to
be
nobody
taking
responsibility
in.
E
That
particular
example,
there
was
no
public
access
easement
and
going
back
on
the
record,
it
was
never
intended
to
be
public
in
this
case.
It's
an
adopted
connection
with
a
dedicated
public
access
easement
over
at
where
the
city
is
a
part
of
that
easement.
So
it
couldn't
be
vacated
without
us
being
party
to
that
if
they
did
put
a
fence
up
or
a
gate
and
locked
it,
we
could
certainly
enforce
against
that.
E
B
We
can
talk
about
that
other
example
and
having
a
different
situation.
So
then
also
I
was
wondering
if
I
understand
correctly,
there's
an
underground
garage
underneath
most
of
this
area
with
18
inches
of
soil.
On
top
of
that,
but
in
the
maps
that
we're
seeing
here,
it
looks
like
there's
large
trees
along
portions
of
the
street
I,
don't
understand
how,
with
18
inches
of
soil
is
reasonable
to
expect
large
trees
along
the
street
right.
F
Well,
in
this
case,
you
can
see
that
the
extent
of
the
garage
goes
to
the
extent
of
the
building,
so
within
the
public
right
away,
it'll
be
the
soil
depth,
obviously
that'll
be
able
to
take
of
a
maturing
large
maturing
tree.
So
it's
really
limited
to
just
within
the
building
yeah
building
footprint.
So.
B
F
Above-Ground
plants
but
I
think
the
point
is
really
to
be
able
to
achieve
the
urban
configuration
that's
expected
here.
There
has
to
be
some
balance
between
what
occurs
on
that
site
and
then
what
can
occur
in
the
streetscape
surround
it,
and
I
I
would
like
to
defer
to
the
landscape
architect
on
that.
So
they
could
explain
some
of
that
butter.
Okay,.
H
C
I
I
And
so
the
purchaser
of
of
quadrant
one
has
basically,
you
know,
there's
no
covenant,
there's
a
market
units.
What
we
negotiated
with
them
was
that
they
will
initially
be
rentals,
but
they
will
condo
them
right
off
the
bat
so
that
they
can
be
converted
to
for
sale.
Once
the
construction
defect
law
period
expires.
Okay,
so
that's
what
they're
reluctant
to
make
them
for
so
right
off
the
bat.
I
C
You
know
try
for
the
same
kind
of
agreement
on
the
third
on
quadrant,
three,
yes,
okay
and
then
and
don't
go
anywhere,
because
this
isn't
legend
about
for
a
this
market.
The
packet
says:
building
for
a
is
market
rate,
cohousing
and
I,
don't
quite
know
what
that
means,
since
they're
all
apartments
that
are
in
self
and
self
completed
apartment.
So
what
does
that
mean?.
I
Right
so
we
haven't
put
out
an
RFP
for
a
purchaser
for
either
the
three
parcels
or
for
a
so
we
will
put
out
an
RFP,
probably
around
mid
next
year,
and
we
will
say
we
are
looking
for
a
buyer
who
will
meet
these
different
criteria.
We
would
like
three
a
and
B
and
the
townhome
stall
before
sale,
but
we
have
to
have
a
willing
purchaser
who
is
willing
to
do
that
and,
as
I
said
on
on
one,
there
was
sort
of
a
compromise.
I
wouldn't
be
at
all
surprised.
I
If
that's
what
we
end
up
on
the
three
parcels
for
a
is
a
little
bit
different,
because
we
are
looking
for
Co
housing
and
we
don't
know
what
kind
of
offers
we'll
get
yet,
but
that
would
be
the
intent
okay.
We
can
request
it
through
the
sales.
We
could
even
require
it
through
the
sale,
but
we
might
not
be
able
to
make
a
sale
if
we're
too
strict
and
with
what
we
require.
So
there's
a
balancing
act.
I'm
saying
this
is
our
intention
and
then
seeing
what
the
market
is
going
to
offer
out
there.
Okay.
C
A
F
F
A
H
Good
evening,
I'm
Laura
Sheinbaum
I'm
development
director
for
Boulder
housing
partners,
happy
to
be
here
tonight.
I
had
all
these
great
comments
planned
and
Elaine
stole
my
thunder
with
her
a
really
excellent
presentation.
So
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
whole
lot
new
to
say
other
than
I
did
want
to
remind
Planning,
Board
and
and
everyone
here
that
you
know
this
is
contemplated.
H
It
was
brought
forward
in
two
phases,
but
really
contemplated
cohesively
coherently
as
one
project,
all
of
the
entitlements
have
run
through
bhp
I
think
what
you'll
see
is
a
site
that
really
works
well
together
and
intended
to
work.
As
you
know,
the
inclusionary
housing
requirements
for
the
market
rate
are
being
satisfied
by
bhp
and
the
affordable
housing
we're
building
from
a
money
standpoint.
It's
important
for
all
of
those
parcels
to
be
able
to
move
forward
at
the
same
time
as
we're
developing
our
sites
as
well.
H
So
that
again
we
have
not
standalone
affordable
projects
out
there.
We
also
have
the
financing
in
pleased
to
be
able
to
support
the
big
out
financing
required
for
the
affordable
sites.
Elaine
already
walked
you
through
what
was
happening
out
there,
but
you
know
long
and
tender
contem
outcomes
desired
by
the
city,
including
you
know,
mixed
use,
mixed
income,
deep
affordability,
all
being
bet
by
having
a
comprehensive
project
happening
out
at
30
pearl,
and
you
can
also
see
down
in
the
lower
left-hand
corner.
H
30
pearl
we've
gone
through
a
branding
exercise
that
will
represent
the
entire
site,
not
just
the
affordable
pieces.
So
the
logo
that
you
see
in
the
corner
is
actually
for
all
the
different
parcels,
including
the
market
rate
components,
and
then
this
is
just
who
we
are
as
the
developer.
We
are
Co.
Matt's
are
developing
with
the
city,
as
you
know,
the
city's
own,
the
land
for
a
long
time,
conveyance
approvals
or
made
by
City
Council
last
week,
so
we'll
start
to
see
a
little
bit
of
shifting
of
ownership.
H
But
really
this
has
been
a
partnership
and
collaboration
with
the
city
with
bhp
and
the
city
is
co
master
developer
working
through
coburn
to
bring
forward
all
the
entitlements
for
all
five
point.
Four
acres
bhp
is
the
Housing
Authority,
so
we
own
and
manage
and
perpetuity
we
also
develop
when
we
develop
as
a
developer.
There
are
fees
that
we
get,
but
we're
mission
driven.
So
all
of
that
goes
right
back
into
community
benefit
in
the
city,
just
a
little
bit
more
about
who
we
are.
H
This
is
all
probably
very
well
known
to
you,
but
again
mission
driven
developer
mission,
driven
organization
and
again
I,
just
one
last
thing
before
I
turn
this
over
to
Bill,
but
a
big
shout
out
to
both
housing
division
and
the
city
planning
staff.
We've
worked
very
collaboratively
to
bring
this
forward
very
quickly,
and
so
we
thank
you
for
your
partnership
and
thank
you.
K
K
We've
been
talking
about
this
for
20
years
and
to
get
this
close
to
it
to
be
at
the
place
where
we're
feeling
this
passionate
about
what
we
created
in
conjunction
with
the
city
and
BHP
and
ten
years,
the
community
process
I
actually
didn't
plan
on
saying
that,
but
getting
here
right
now,
it's
speaking
to
you,
it
kind
of
feels
like
the
culmination
of
a
massive
effort
and
we're
really
proud
of
the
results.
So
to
that
end,
ten
years
of
public
process
I
mentioned
this
last
time.
K
I
want
to
reiterate
it,
because
it's
so
important,
we
didn't
view
is
our
job
to
reinvent
anything,
the
community
kind
of
decided
what
they
want
came
before
the
Planning
Board,
a
number
of
times,
council
a
number
of
times.
The
framework
plan
in
the
final
site
plan
were
really
excited
that
they
are
exactly
the
same
in
John
to
your
point,
all
the
pedestrian
paths
that
are
so
critical
to
making
a
neighborhood
pedestrian
friendly
at
all.
In
place
they
all
public
access,
easements
and
the
answer.
K
The
question
you're
not
even
allowed
to
erect
a
fence
in
a
public
access
easement
without
County
Council
action.
So
in
theory
you
can't
you
can't
block
the
past,
and
so
that's
a
very
big
deal.
I'll
talk
more
about
some
of
the
questions
here.
So
milena
already
explained.
What's
going
on
in
the
buildings,
this
kind
of
gets
to
John's
question
in
northern
one
is
considered
to
be
a
public
park
with
public
access
through
it
again,
public
access
he's
been
protecting
it,
so
you
can't
block
it.
K
The
southern
one
was
kind
of
accidental
and
as
a
result
of
the
fact
that
the
buildings
can't
be
longer
than
150
feet
when
we
started
this
site
was
two
buildings
and
it
just
wasn't
working
right
again.
Formulas
code
is
prejudiced
against
big
buildings
and
when
we
show
the
aerial
I
think
we
all
agree.
That's
that's
a
really
good
thing.
So
what
ended
up
happening
was
the
southern
buildings
split
in
half
and
we
ended
up
with
this
plaza
in
the
middle,
so
it
ended
up
being
a
gathering
space.
K
The
idea
is
that,
to
the
right
hand,
side
on
the
eastern
side
of
this
gathering
space.
That's
actually
a
staff
wanted
a
couple
of
loading
zones
for
moving
bands,
so
that's
a
place
for
a
moving
van
there's,
really
not
good
pedestrian
access
out
of
an
end.
So
it's
considered
like
a
little
public
plaza
again.
The
developer
could
close
off.
They
would
have
to
ask
for
that
in
the
tech
process,
because
right
now,
there's
no
gates
shown
on
that
on
that
western
side.
K
North
east
side
again,
the
Paseo
runs
through
from
east
to
west,
so
we
have
one
mid
block
on
both
sides.
This
one
terminates
at
the
park,
so
it's
pretty
important
and
this
park,
the
Delaine
kind
of
referred
to.
We
do
have
to
do
the
final
designs
in
the
final
plant
call-outs
in
Tech
Talk,
but
it
was
designed
in
conjunction
with
parks
and
staff,
the
farm
based
code
requirements,
the
requirements
for
play
and
playgrounds
and
kids
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
as
well
as
be
HP's
needs.
K
So
it's
been
pretty
well
vetted
by
staff
in
that
they
feel
that
this
is
what
the
city
was
always
wanting
to
get
here
and
what
I
can
go
through
this
in
more
detail.
If
anyone
wants
that
north-south
street
is
not
really
a
street
just
to
point
that
out,
there
bottom-left,
but
that
is
a
fire
emergency
access
and
also
an
access
to
clean
out
stormwater
maintenance.
But
that's
all
that's
for
that's,
not
a
public
street.
So
it's
a
walking
path
again,
foreign,
as
if
Lane
mentioned.
K
The
idea
is
that
it's
cohousing
or
coops
and
again
to
your
point.
Those
are
two
different
things:
we've
designed
them
as
individualized
units,
but
again
the
inside
of
the
building
could
morph
around
a
little
bit
as
long
as
the
outside
doesn't
change.
However,
the
northeast
corner
is
a
public
community
space,
there's
also
a
public
community
space
that
opens
up
onto
that
internal
courtyards.
The
idea
is
that
that's
the
common
living
room
and
then
we
have
the
common
front
door,
so
we
think
we
did
talk
to
Co
housing
developers.
K
K
I,
probably
should
have
widen
it
out,
but
you
could
picture
salon
off
to
the
right
or
Griffin
I
guess
it's
now
called
the
scale
that
we're
talking
about
here
is
completely
different
and
what
it
allowed
for
is
Civitas
the
landscape,
architect
and,
and
we
to
play
with
all
these
little
Cod
spaces
John
the
kind
of
ones
that
you're
you're
picking
up
on
don't
exist.
Other
places
where
you
have
the
really
big
300
by
300
foot
buildings.
So
this
has
been
this
slide
beforehand.
K
We
never
show
it
because
all
it
ever
shows
his
ruse
when
you
show
that
bird's
eye,
but
in
this
particular
case
it
shows
the
permeability
of
this
site.
Farm
based
code
was
focused
on
this
from
the
beginning,
so
we're
excited
that
it's
working
out
some
renderings
of
each
of
these
buildings.
This
is
the
southeast
corner
form.
Base
code
is
really
focused
on
making
the
potential
escort
fun.
K
Let's
code
is
really
focused
on
making
that
first
floor,
pedestrian
experience,
different
and
there's
lots
of
requirements
for
how
the
windows
work
on
the
upper
floors
versus
all
the
windows
work
in
the
commercial
zone.
On
the
first
floor,
you
can
really
see
that
data
in
this
rendering
that
there's
a
big
difference
between
what
you
experience
when
you
walk
along
it
and
what
you
experience
on
the
upper
floors.
K
We've
listed
some
of
these
major
requirements
on
the
right
we've
met
every
major
requirement
in
terms
of
building
length
and
mass
and
scale
and
all
those
things
that
demonstrate
all
the
regulatory
plans
frameworks
for
for
moving
for
pedestrians
and
cars
and
bikes.
We've
also
met
major
materials
where
the
transparency
is
where
the
Stoops
and
entries
for
the
building
scale.
How
rooms
and
parapets
terminate
hovers
horizontal
expression,
design
lines
work
even
window
articulations,
everyone
know
has
to
have
a
lentil.
K
K
One
quick
thing:
architectural
e1a
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
thought
it
was
gonna,
be
one
building
a
sort
of
part.
So
all
of
the
outside
of
these
buildings
are
really
clad
in
brick,
they're
a
bit
more
formal,
that's
what
the
form
based
code
contemplates
along
the
major
streets.
You
have
this
formality
of
the
kind
of
expected
civic
material
of
brick
and
storefront
and
and
certain
articulations
of
windows
when
the
buildings
pull
apart.
K
That's
where
you
want
to
another
form,
based
code,
major
material,
the
composite
word
and
put
because
it's
a
little
more
I,
don't
know
humanizing
for
a
space
that's
caught
and
only
pedestrians.
It's
not
going
to
have
any
cars
in
it,
so
a
little
bit
of
a
more
informal
space,
a
little
more
private
space,
so
we're
trying
to
tune
the
architecture
as
we
go
to
these
types
of
things.
This
is
one
see
this
is
a
very
traditional
building.
K
Actually
there's
a
few
contemporary
nods
like
pulling
the
jams
out
for
the
windows,
but
it's
all
brick
very
highly
detailed,
again
storefront.
On
the
first
floor,
where
we
have
commercial
but
where
it
transitions
to
residential,
a
little
more
privacy.
As
its
contemplated
in
the
form
based
cone
on
the
north
side
of
the
site,
northeast
corner,
we
have
3a
and
3b
and
remember:
SPARC
is
a
little
more
contemporary.
The
Commons
is
a
little
more
contemporary.
K
So
as
we
head
north,
we
tried
to
get
a
little
more
fanciful,
a
little
more
contemporary
with
the
expression,
but
all
the
building
blocks
are
still
there
perform
based
code.
So
you
still
have
the
base.
You
still
have
the
horizontal
expression.
You
still
make
the
first
floor.
You
still
create.
You
know,
openings
in
the
buildings
that
are
human-scale
the
townhomes
by
the
park.
Remember.
This
is
a
place
where
kids
are
supposed
to
play.
K
Maybe
it's
a
little
more
family-oriented,
so
here
we
did
go
a
little
more
fanciful,
but
still
the
formalistic
materials
of
brick,
all
of
the
requirements
of
form
based
code
are
met.
It's
supposed
to
be
a
little
more
interesting,
a
little
more
material,
color
change,
little
different
rules
and
Trust,
trying
to
be
a
little
more
playful
at
that
area
and
as
we
head
further
south
when
it
could
be
a
co
housing
building
right
up
against
the
street
right
across
from
the
hotel,
making
Junction
place
in
major
street
so
again,
a
little
more
formality.
K
To
that
build
a
little
let's
play
for
a
little
more
exactly
what
foreign
base
code
anticipates
on
parking.
We
talked
about
it
for
the
north
parcel.
This
parking
garage
is
the
same
again:
you'll
have
a
parking
license,
so
it's
fully
applied
principle.
You
don't
get
a
parking
space
once
the
parking
lot
drops
below
75
percent
occupation,
it
opens
up
to
the
whole
district
and
anyone
can
park
in
it
at
district
set
rates.
K
We
talked
about
the
two
parks.
The
two
major
parks
required
by
for
those
code
are
the
two
in
the
boxes:
we've
kind
of
gone
through
those
a
little
bit
John.
To
answer
your
question
about
the
trees
and
the
materials
the
trees
along
the
street
are
all
outside
of
the
boundary
of
the
parking
garage
there
in
full
depth
dirt,
so
we
should
get
full-sized
street
trees.
K
There
are
some
trees
in
that
pocket
park
between
the
two
buildings
they're
in
elevated
planters,
so
we
have
the
18
inches
plus
the
elevation
I
think
it's
two
feet
for
the
planners,
so
while
they
won't
go
huge,
we've
got
three
and
a
half
feet
of
planting
better
than
the
18
inches
that
we
did.
We
were
concerned
about
that
as
well
and
then
back
to
the
exceptions,
and
this
is
really
what
again
I
think
this
is
really
one
of
the
jobs
we've
been
talking
about
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
form
Bayes
code
works.
K
All
of
the
exceptions
that
we
have
are
really
the
result
of
either
the
program
that
we
have
not
meshing
very
well
with
a
form
based
code
and
there's
only
a
couple
of
those
most
of
them
are
the
regulating
plan
and
the
underlying
streets,
not
matching
the
written
form
based
code
perfectly.
So,
for
example,
the
transformer
exception
that
Elaine
mentioned
the
transformers
are
supposed
to
be
in
alleys.
This
part
of
the
form
based
code.
We
don't
have
alleys,
so
we're
required
to
ask
for
an
exception.
K
We
are
the
the
orange
on
the
right-hand
side
of
1c
and
1b
again
150
foot
building
a
maximum
length.
The
distance
between
the
two
streets
is
something
like
170
feet,
or
maybe
a
little
more.
We
can't
quite
get
to
that
5
to
10
foot
step
back
on
both
sides,
which
we
thought
was
a
more
impactful
exception.
We
pulled
away
a
little
bit
from
the
multi-use
path
because
it
was
residential.
On
that
first
floor,
we
thought
giving
him
a
bigger
landscape
buffer
for
the
multi-use
path
made
sense.
K
All
of
the
exceptions
relating
to
the
entrances
that
Elaine
talked
about
and
the
building
setbacks
on
the
south
and
west
side
of
quadrant
1
are
really
a
result
of
those
being
non
rectilinear
property
lines,
so
we're
trying
to
do
rectilinear
buildings
because
anything
besides
that
gets
expensive
to
build.
So
as
the
building
jogs
on
that
diagonal
line,
we
have
portions
of
the
building
on
one
scene
that
are
slightly
further
away
than
the
5
to
10
foot
maximum,
but
only
for
a
little
bit
till
the
building
comes
back
to
the
property
line.
K
We're
having
a
similar
problem
on
the
corner
were
the
overhangs
are
a
little
too
deep
in
places.
There's
a
Lane
kind
of
reference
because
again
we're
trying
to
bring
the
building
out
to
that
property
line
where
we
can
to
make
the
street
is
a
yes,
it's
contemplated
informes
code,
but
it's
a
square
building
and
a
triangular
lot,
so
it
gets
a
little
little.
Complicated
I
can
go
through
the
rest
of
the
exceptions
in
as
much
detail
as
anybody
wants.
Elaine
did
a
wonderful
job,
so
I
won't
continue
to
waste
time.
K
So
that's
one
thing
I
wanted
to
say,
which
is.
This
has
been
extremely
intensive
effort
and
I
I
can't
I
need
to
express
on
the
record
how
indebted
we
are
to
staff
and
how
incredibly
hard
they
worked.
They
met
with
us
every
two
weeks
for
a
very
long
time.
Alain
was
putting
in
time.
I
was
getting
emails
very
late
at
night
and
we
had
a
meet
in
order
to
get
the
money
to
build.
K
B
A
Right
thanks
billing
and
they
jump
bringing
it
in
on
time
and
good
job
answering
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had
during
our
question-and-answer
with
staff,
but
they're,
probably
some
more
questions
for
the
applicant.
The
planning
board
has
before
we
go
to
public
comment
so
who
would
like
to
start
Sarah?
It's.
C
K
Exception
so
for
base
code
contemplates
that
windows
are
going
to
be
in
brick
and
in
all
places
where
we
have
windows
and
brick,
which
is
the
vast
majority
of
our
elevations
all,
but
really
the
elevations
between
1a
and
1b.
Those
internal
elevations
and
I
can
flip
over
to
that
and
a
few
smaller
places
here
and
there
we
are
meeting
that
requirement
that
you
have
a
2
inch
return.
We
actually
have
a
much
deeper
than
that.
We
have
a
4
inch
return
so.
K
Outside
of
that,
you
get
a
nice
deep
shadow
line.
We
do
that
with
what
you
end
up
having
to
do
is
space
the
wood
off
the
framing
by
3,
inches
or
more,
and
then
return
it
back,
because
the
window
sticks
out
a
little
bit.
So
you
need
a
pretty
big
space
on
the
wood.
There's
a
couple
problems
with
that
one
is
pretty
cost
prohibitive,
prohibitive.
Maybe
a
bigger
issue
is
that
the
venting
of
that
becomes
problematic
and
the
way
we
actually
construct
it
we're
a
little
worried
about
water
infiltration.
K
K
The
concern
was
that
the
windows
would
be
flat
and
that
glass
is
flat
with
no
relief
in
the
plane
of
the
wall
and
we've
all
seen
that
it
looks
really
cheap,
so
we're
trying
to
create
that
depth
so
we're
doing
it
with
an
extruded
piece,
but
it's
in
very
limited
spots
in
the
project.
You
can
kind
of
see
it
between
those
two
buildings.
The
white
windows
have
this
extruded
I
mean
it's
very
small,
I'm
sorry,
but
it
got
an
extruded
relief
piece
around
it.
K
B
Normal
procedure,
it's
all
right,
yeah,
so
with
respect
again
to
the
trees
along
the
streets
and
I
appreciate
the
explanation
of
where
the
garage
will
be
and
where
there's
beef
enough
soil
for
significant
trees.
There
were
some
comments
from
the
city
Forester
about
the
choice
of
which
types
of
trees
would
be
suitable.
Do
you
agree
with
that?
Or
what
is
the
status
of
them?
Typically.
K
The
city
forester
wins
when
the
landscape
architect
says
what
the
plant
species
should
be,
that's
what
we
give
them,
but
that's
typically
handled
the
final
tree.
Selections
are
handled
in
TechTalk,
so
we
don't
have
any
concerns
whatsoever
with
beating
the
tree
species
requirements.
It's
just
done
in
the
next
stage.
Okay,.
B
K
F
K
A
B
C
F
D
K
We
met
with
Dave
Lowry
of
fire
and
what
he
is
asking
for
is
removable
bollards,
so
no
one
can
drive
there,
except
from
a
fire
truck.
That
would
start
you
can
see
the
section
and
then
Justin
it
starts
with
yellow
landscaping.
Those
bollards
would
be
at
the
backside
of
that
darker
grey
section.
That
darker
gray
part
is
for
van.
K
K
L
I
wasn't
on
the
board
when
we
kind
of
dug
through
a
lot
of
the
form
based
code
originally,
but
the
public
sees
buildings
come
up
and
they
don't
underst,
they
don't
perceive
the
difference
between
who
did
what
and
where
we
look
at.
No
one
really
understands
that
xx
and
Canyon
was
two
different
developers,
so
we've
got
Rev
coming
up
across
the
street.
How
how
do
these
look
together.
K
L
Me
insert
something
so
you
can
add
to
this:
does
you
know
form
base
code
better
than
almost
anyone
probably
does
form
base
code
have
any
place
where
that
sort
of
self-awareness
can
be
considered
because
you
starting
to
say
you're,
bound
by
form
based
code.
Oh
sets
me
off
to
think
that
this
one
B's
code
is
a
bad
idea.
You're
saying
hey,
sorry
form
based
code,
so
keep
going
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
you
can
just
say
you're
bound
by
form
base
case
I.
K
K
You
know
eight
stamped
buildings
that
all
look
the
same.
You
know
this
isn't
some
development
in
the
middle
of
eastern
Colorado,
where
some
developer
comes
in
and
builds
twenty
acres
of
the
same
stuff,
so
every
building
was
intended
to
be
unique
and
so,
within
the
form
base
code,
we
were
able
to
tweak
things,
and
you
saw
that
one,
a
and
B,
for
example,
are
much
more
contemporary
feeling.
That
was
on
purpose
because
of
what's
across
the
street,
and
it
wasn't
just
rev.
It
was
also
Google.
K
There
was
a
feeling
that,
in
our
minds,
I
think
that
and
I'm
be
careful.
How
I
say
this:
the
buildings
directly
to
the
south
and
the
buildings
to
the
Southwest
have
kind
of
a
little
more
technical
aesthetic,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
respond
to
that
a
little
bit.
We
didn't
consider
the
buildings
to
the
south
east
all
that
much
because
I
just
don't
think,
there's
a
lot
to
respond
to
there.
The
form
based
code
really
speaks
to
how
you
make
a
good
Street.
K
It
has
a
lot
to
do
with
what
your
sidewalks
are
with
your
setbacks
are
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
building,
how
the
building
makes
the
first
floor,
how
your
entries
work
that
you
make
a
pedestrian
cap,
all
the
things
that
you
know,
you
guys
have
heard
me
preach
for
years
and
years.
So
I
do
think
in
that
regard.
K
The
formate
scope
drives
an
appropriate
response
across
the
street,
because
you're
making
a
good
place,
that's
next
to
a
good
place
and
starts
to
form
that
outdoor
room,
so
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
is
be
really
good
neighbors.
So
we
tried
to
respond
to
the
aesthetic
a
bit
and
then
we
try
to
be
a
really
good
public
side
of
the
street
to
help
anchor
it
did
we
look
at
rather
than
say
we're
going
to
do
this
plus
B
so
that
it
feels
like
a
twin.
We
didn't
do
that.
L
K
A
J
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
the
lighting.
I
was
kind
of
intrigued
by
the
catenary
Lincoln.
Did
you
mention
in
some
parts
and
I
wondering
if
there's
some
specific
thing
you
were
trying
to
go
for
because
they
seem
initially
in
the
Park
area,
but
I
wonder
it
does
expanded
around
it.
So
if
you
can
speak
about
it
and
what
the
purpose
is-
and
you
know,
safety
and
all
that
sure
a.
K
Little
bit
of
a
push
and
pull
between
the
dark
skies
ordinance
and
the
perception
of
safety,
so
we
have
to
just
the
whole
thing
has
to
be
bound,
but
I
think
it's
to
foot-candles
at
the
property
line.
We
can't
exceed
that
and
then
within
the
property
we
can't
exceed
certain
foot-candle
levels
and
you
can't
see
the
fixtures
bulb.
It
has
to
be
a
full
cutoff,
so
you
have
to
shroud
it
within
the
form
based
code.
The
idea
that
these
--piece
paseo
should
be
welcoming
spaces
and
I.
K
Think
that
there's
a
concern
and
there's
a
few
places
in
Boulder,
but
mostly
other
places
that
I
could
I
could
reference
that
they
have
these
alleys
and
they
feel
unwelcoming
right.
The
the
buildings,
the
building
addresses
it
on
the
first
floor.
Isn't
very
nice,
it's
dark,
it's
tall
is
actually
part
of
the
requirements
are
in
some
cases
in
encourage
response
to
the
Paseos
and
I
think
the
idea
is
at
night.
You
know,
you've
got
this
filtering
light.
K
You've
got
required,
form
base,
coat
entrances
on
the
Paseos
and
the
way
the
buildings
you
know
have
transparency
at
the
first
floor.
So
the
idea
is
that
at
night
it
starts
to
glow
both
from
the
buildings
and
the
light
and
the
windows
and
from
the
light
above
trying
to
make
it
a
welcoming
space.
So
that's
the
intention
and
I
think
makes
it
in
pretty
well,
so
we
did
try
to
augment
it,
but
it's
also
within
the
code.
D
K
And
actually
so,
I
met
Chris
Hagelin
to
do
a
tour
out
there
a
couple
days
ago,
and
he
I
didn't
know
about
this.
He
told
me
that
there
was
a
study
that
they
did
in
2017.
That
showed
that
the
right,
the
vehicular
traffic
coming
out
of
Boulder
Junction,
was
58
percent
of
what
it
would
nationally
be
expected
to
be
so
he
felt
that
those
methods
were
working
and
he
thought
that
they
would
work
better
as
more
of
it
gets
in
field.
That's
great.
C
C
K
Refer
you
to
the
bottom
right
of
this.
Essentially
pearl
is
sort
of
a
double
street
there.
So
you've
got
the
Pearl
Street
that
exists
right
now
and
then
just
in
the
north
of
it
you
have
a
war
nerf,
which
is
it's
a
Dutch
word
for
mic
multifunction.
So
the
idea
is,
there's
a
drop-off
pickup
thing
for
vehicles.
K
So
if
you
were
I
mean
it's
actually
perfect
for
like
uber
and
lyft
and
dropping
off
pizzas
or
whatever
else,
but
it's
also
a
place
for
people
to
arrive
by
bicycle
people
to
meet
rides
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
you
still
have
so
coming
directly
out
of
the
building.
You
still
have
a
full
15
20
foot
sidewalk.
Then
you
have
a
tree
lon.
Then
you
have
a
a
paver
street
and
that's
the
owner.
K
So
it
has
one
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
it
has
one
layer
of
parking
on
it
and
then
it
has
one-way
traffic
heading
only
west
and
it
can
be
the
the
speed
limits
are
very
low.
I
think
it's
essentially
walking
speed
so
from
a
pedestrian
on
the
sidewalk,
don't
feel
any
different,
but
it
will
add
a
level
of
buffer
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
heavy
Pearl
Street
traffic,
which
is
does
that
answer
the
question
yeah.
G
K
Yeah,
that's
the
intention.
The
idea
is
that
you
know
there's
people
trying
to
stop
on
Pearl
Street
in
a
parallel
parking
and
jump
in
and
out
quick.
It's
a
it's
a
much
slower,
speed
interface.
So
we've
got
the
building.
Then
we
have
pedestrians.
Then
we
have
this
pedestrian
car
slow
interface
zone
and
then
we
have
cars.
Thank.
C
You
and
my
other
question
is
actually
is:
maybe
for
the
landscape:
architect,
I'm,
not
sure
you
sort
of
have
a
diagonal
of
parks
right.
You
have
the
what
will
be
the
playground,
then
you
have
what
will
be
the
fire
street
but
is
also
a
Plaza,
and
then
you
have
what
is
the
plaza
around
the
entrance
to
the
garage?
And
then
you
have
this
other
Plaza
between
building
1b
and
1c
and
I'm
I'm.
This
is
such
an
urban
environment
and
I'm
just
curious.
C
K
Those
paved
yeah
yeah,
unfortunately
I'm
your
landscape
architect
tonight
because
they
couldn't
come
at
the
last
second
I'm,
not
a
landscape
architect.
So
that's
kind
of
a
problem.
It's
it's
a
good
question.
So
I'll
give
you
an
example.
The
north-south
street
here
is
a
it's
a
vehicular
fire
access.
Normally
that's
supposed
to
be
20
feet
wide
fully
paved.
K
We
have
the
same
concern,
and
so
we
were
worried
that
people
would
come
out
on
the
back
of
their
townhomes
and
it
would
just
be
a
Plaza
and
that
works
fine
if
you're
in
Paris
or
something
but
we're
not
Paris.
You
know.
So
we
want
that
natural
stuff
in
there.
So
working
with
us
to
allow
us
to
shrink
that
down,
I
think
to
12
feet,
and
then
we
can't
plant
trees,
but
we
can
plant
tall,
grasses
and
flowering
plants
and
things
so
we
get
this
buffer
on
both
sides
we're
not
too
tech
dock.
K
Yet
we
are
very
cognizant
of
that.
We're
also
worried
about
that.
So
I
think
as
we
go
through
tech
dock,
the
idea
is
to
reclaim
we
don't
pavings
fine,
but
you
only
want
painting
where
people
are
actually
walking.
So
I
don't
have
a
great
answer
for
you,
except
for
yes
we're
aware
of
that,
and
we
do
want
to
continue
to
push
on
it.
So.
C
This
is
what's
the
comment,
so
I
bite
that
part
of
Goose
Creek,
all
the
time
you
know
and
I'm,
often
making
the
curve
down
from
what
we're
now
called
Junction
your
place,
the
turn
west
on
to
Goose
Creek
path,
it's
a
dangerous
turn.
It
is
and
I,
don't
know
whether
there's
some
way
to
try
to
address
that,
while
you're
doing
the
pocket
park
or
maybe
I'm
just
passing
this
along
to
the
city,
but
I've
gotten
almost
run
over
several
times
and
I've
probably
almost
run
over
people
several
times
on
bikes,
so
I
walk.
K
Three
times
a
week
and
same
exact
experience,
so
unfortunately,
because
that's
in
a
floodplain,
we
can't
change
it
without
a
process
and
the
process
is
fairly
substantial,
so
the
timeline
of
getting
the
affordable
up
just
doesn't
allow
for
that.
We
did
actually
make
parks.
Aware
of
that
and
I
think
that
maybe
can
you.
K
A
K
Have
any
alleys
the
sort
of
changes
that
that
was
a
challenge
for
sure
and
again
the
form
based
code
actually
speaks
to
trash
trash
yards
and
assumes
that
they're
going
to
be
off
alleys.
We
know
how
many
alleys,
so
all
the
trash
is
in
the
garages
and
we
had
a
work
with
Western
disposal
to
figure
out
a
plan
that
allows
and
again
we
have
those
two
loading
zones.
K
So
it
allows
the
trash
trucks
to
come
up
and
both
stage
so
downstairs
in
the
garage
there'll
be
little
skid
steers
that
pull
the
dumpsters
up
out
of
the
garage
and
put
them
in
the
western'
disposal
and
they'll
go
back
down
in
a
lot
of
ways.
That's
great
because
we
don't
have
any
backs
of
the
houses.
We
don't
have
any
dirty
dumpsters
or
anything
like
that.
K
But
it
is
a
management
issue
and,
for
example,
bhp
how
to
work
pretty
hard
to
find
a
way
that
that
was
going
to
work
with
their
management
plan,
but
we
were
able
to
solve
it.
So
all
the
trash
is
in
the
garages
and
I'm
sorry,
except
for
for
us
and
for
n
the
building
floors.
They
each
have
trash
I'll
show
you
sorry,
they
each
have
trash.
K
B
K
Will
give
you
a
general
two
or
three
hour
window,
so
there
needs
to
be
somebody,
so
it
would
be
whoever's
on-site
for
maintenance
would
have
to
know
that
it's
a
Wednesday,
its
nine
o'clock
trucks
gonna,
show
up
and
they
have
to
be
ready
for
it
and
then
bring
the
stuff
out
to
them.
There's
other
projects
in
Boulder
that
do
that
right
now
and
that's
what
Western
pointed
us
to
okay,
it's
been
successful.
Thank.
B
E
M
G
B
K
John
one
one
thing
on
that
point:
so
we
have
entries
on
the
north
side
of
3a
and
entries
on
the
north
side
of
2b,
which
is
the
border
housing
partners
units.
So
we
couldn't
gate
it
off
without
people
losing
no,
the
some
buyer
wouldn't
be
able
to
gate
this
without
people
losing
access,
unless
there
was
some
sort
of
card
key
gate
or
something.
So
it's
the
intention
to
leave
it
open,
but
it
also
would
be
challenging
from
a
functionality
standpoint,
because
people
have
to
get
on
that
path
to
get
into
their
units.
A
If
there
are
no
further
questions,
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
public
comment
right
now,
do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
who
are
signed
up
to
speak?
Okay?
Does
any
member
of
the
public
wish
to
speak?
Okay,
then
I'm
gonna
close
the
public
comment
on
this
matter
and
let's
begin
to
deliberate
on
this.
A
So,
oh
and
if
you
could
put
up
the
two
questions
that
we're
gonna
be
talking
about
I
think
in
a
way
the
questions
could
be
flipped,
because
if
we
believe
that
the
exceptions
can
be
met
pursuant
to
the
form
based
code,
then
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
form
based
code
and
an
exceptions
that
are
that
are
met
are
consistent
with
code.
That's
why
we
have
exceptions
in
code,
so
we
can
do
it
either
way.
A
The
build
to
one
on
building
3a
for
the
vsco
easement
is
the
same
exception.
We
just
approved
a
couple
months
ago
on
the
phase
1
portion
of
this.
The
building
1c
transparency
requirement
is
the
same
exception.
We
granted
in
phase
one
because
of
the
first-floor
residential
component
and
the
privacy
needs
at
the
back.
The
entryway
configuration
needs
an
exception,
but
the
design
meets
the
intent
of
creating
recess
same
with
the
two
inch
recess
for
the
windows,
which
is
a
pretty
small
exception.
A
Given
the
small
number
of
windows
that
it
effects
and
the
fact
that
the
fin
creates
the
shadow
line,
that's
the
intent
of
the
the
recess
and
then
the
transformer
location
exception
is
the
same
one.
We
approved
for
the
phase
one
buildings
just
a
couple
of
months
ago,
so
I
think
the
fact
that
we're
looking
at
ten
exceptions
over
eight
buildings
and
most
of
them
are
either
most
of
them
are
ones.
We've
already
looked
at
and
we've
already
found,
where
were
appropriate
exceptions
and
the
other
ones
are
either.
A
You
know
good
design,
trade-offs
or
or
necessary
because
of
the
parking
garage
being
underground,
says
to
me
that
this
is
not
a
big
ask
and
it's
largely
been
built,
478
out
of
488
requirements
to
the
form
based
code.
So
you
know:
if
I
were
the
only
person
I'm
Planning
Board,
I
would-,
pull
myself
and
say
I
have
no
issues
with
its
consistency
with
the
regulations
of
for
meas
code
and
I
have
no
issues
with
the
requested
exceptions.
A
G
L
B
A
So
I
move
the
Planning
Board
approved,
form
based
code
review
application
number
L.
You
are
2019
triple
o
28,
adopting
the
staff
memorandum
with
attachments
as
findings
of
fact
and
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
recommended
and
the
staff
memorandum
ii.
Then
we've
got
a
motion
on
the
table:
it's
by
Zuckerman
and
seconded
by
Hanson.
A
D
A
A
We're
back
so
we're
into
matters
from
the
planning
board,
planning,
director
and
City
Attorney
and
the
first
one.
It
is
an
informational
update,
I
believe
James
Hewitt
is
here,
and
it
has
to
do
with.
Colorado
should
talk
with
Association
and
its
sustainability
and
resilience
strategy,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
staff.
Thanks.
N
Yeah
well
I'm,
here
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
and
I
won't
take
too
long
about
this
project
that
we've
embarked
upon
with
CCA
or
the
Colorado
Chautauqua
Association,
and
it's
what
the
title
indicates
that
there's
a
desire
on
the
part
of
the
city
which
of
course
owns
the
land
on
which
the
buildings
sit
at
Chautauqua.
So
it's
really
a
big
park
and
also
a
historic
district.
N
So
it's
a
pretty
rare
level
of
designation
and
it
really
recognizes
that
the
special
and
and
unusual
character
of
the
place-
and
it's
really
the
last
surviving
Chautauqua
of
which
there
were
I,
think
there
were
a
thousand
or
more
one
time
around
the
country,
and
this
is
really
the
last
one.
That's
that's
still
functioning.
There
are
a
couple
of
around
that
are
still
still
there,
but
they're
not
functioning
as
Chautauqua's.
N
In
that
way,
they
were
hoping
to
and
still
are
hoping
to
create
a
sort
of
their
own
micro
grid
up
there,
potentially,
and
also
to
plan
for
the
fact
that
they
are
about
as
vulnerable
as
you
can
get
in
Boulder
and-
and
that
is
a
result
of
the
fact,
is
that
three
sides
of
that
property
are
surrounded
by
open
space
and
on
that
wilderness
interface.
So
there
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
come
along
with
that,
as
well
as
the
very
steep
grade.
N
So
it's
it
is
a
pretty
vulnerable
neural
place
and
then
also
that
the
almost
all
the
buildings
are
just
made
out
of
wood
frame,
so
obviously
a
number
of
issues
there
in
terms
of
fire.
So
of
course
this
is
being.
This
is
coming
up
as
a
as
a
result
of
climate
change,
and
you
know
I'm
I'm
sure
I'm,
not
telling
you
anything
new
here,
but
with
with
a
1.5
centigrade
increase
in
temperature.
N
You
know
it's
a
little
frightening
to
think
of
that,
and
you
know
gosh
I
certainly
hope
it
doesn't
happen,
but
one
of
the
ideas
behind
this
project
is
to
plan
for
such
eventual.
Such
an
eventualities
are
such
eventualities
because
the
climate
is
changing,
so
you
know
we
in
Boulder
have
done
I,
think
a
pretty
good
job
of
rising
to
challenges
and
planning
for
the
future.
N
There's
really
only
one
instance
of
a
strategic
plan
having
been
done
so
far
for
a
historic
district,
and
that
was
in
Annapolis
Maryland,
where
of
course,
you
know,
flooding
from
tropical
storms
hurricanes
and
that
sort
of
thing
are
one
of
the
key
vulnerabilities
which
isn't
what
we
have
here.
But
we
actually
have
on
the
team
person,
a
historic
preservation,
professional
who
worked
in
Annapolis
on
that
project
and
we've
also
hired
resilient
analytics,
which
is
a
local
firm,
headed
by
Paul,
Janowski
who's.
Also,
the
head
of
the
sustainability
program
at
CU.
N
So
the
project,
this
first
phase
of
the
projects
broken
into
three
pieces
and
we're
anticipating
this
will
be
finished
by
March
of
2020
and
right
now.
Vulnerabilities
and
opportunities
assessment
is
underway
that
should
be
finished
by
the
beginning
of
November,
but
of
course,
we're
wanting
to
share
the
results
and
get
input
in
terms
of
what
the
vulnerabilities
are
up
there,
but
also
what
the
opportunities
might
be
in
terms
of
making
that
place
a
self-sustainable
micro-grid
if
that's
appropriate,
and
that
would
be
certainly
a
first
for
historic
district
in
the
country.
N
Think
one
of
the
things
that's
interesting
about
Chautauqua
is:
there
are
a
lot
of
stakeholders
there
and
within
the
city,
you've
got
open
space.
You've
got
Parks
and
Rec,
you've
got
transportation,
you've
got
utilities,
so
there
are
a
number
of
different
departments
that
are
doing
things
up
there
and
coordinating.
Those
have
has
been
kind
of
tricky
in
the
past,
and
CCA
has
been
doing
one
thing
and
sometimes
Parks
and
Rec
does
something
else,
and
then
it's
a
historic
district.
So
the
communication
sometimes
hasn't
been
quite
what
it
should
be.
N
So
part
of
it
is
to
coordinate
the
communication
and
have
everybody
heading
in
the
same
direction.
So
that
will
be
the
second
part
of
the
strategy
which
will
run
from
November
until
January
and
then
we're
hoping
to
complete
the
strategy
by
March
of
2020,
and
we
will
bring
that
strategy
here
to
you
for
your
review
as
well.
It'll
go
to
the
open
space,
mountain
parks,
board,
Parks
and
Rec
a
landmarks
board
and
then
ultimately
City
Council.
N
So
as
I
mentioned
resilient
analytics
is
working
with
us.
We've
hired
them
as
a
consultant
and
CCA
in
the
city
are
sharing
the
cost
of
that
all
janowski's
done
a
couple
of
presentations
and
started
doing
the
analysis.
Analysis
in
terms
of
some
of
the
observed
vulnerabilities
up
there,
which
are
drought,
heat
drainage
issues.
N
N
There
are
actually
and
Paul
has
identified
this.
There
are
transformers
on
there
that
are
circa
1920
transformers
filled
with
oil,
so
this
is.
This
is
something
that
I
think
needs
to
be
addressed
in
the
context
of
wind
and
heat
and
fire,
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
Paul
is
with
us
going
to
be
presenting
in
an
open
house
on
Tuesday
October
8th
at
Chautauqua.
If
you're
interested
in
coming
I,
would
you
know
invite
you
all
to
be
there?
N
The
idea
again
is
he's
going
to
be
presenting
what
he
sees,
what
he's
observed
and
based
upon
the
data.
What
some
of
the
projections
would
be
in
terms
of
the
vulnerabilities
over
over
the
next
50
years,
or
so
and,
and
you
know
getting
input
from
people
and
and
people
that
use
Chautauqua,
because
Chautauqua
is
a
public
place.
The
visitation
through
Chautauqua
is
estimated
to
be
about
a
million
people
a
year,
which
is
has
an
impact
on
the
place,
certainly
as
as
well
as
many
other
things
so
that'll
be
the
first
open
house,
James.
D
N
And
that
same
thing,
yes,
thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
it's
not
on
that
flow
chart.
We
decided
to
have
a
second
for
a
couple
of
reasons
that
we
scheduled
this
one
pretty
quickly
and
didn't
get
enough
time
to
really
advertise,
but
also
it's
Yom
Kippur,
and
so
we
thought
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
second,
a
second
open
house
for
the
vulnerabilities,
so
that
will
take
place.
What
was
the
date
you
said
was
an
Obama,
it's
November,
13.
N
Thanks,
terrific
and
then
December
2nd,
the
options
will
be
rolled
out
and
we'll
be
receiving
feedback.
There's
also
a
steering
committee
committee
with
members
of
the
CCA
and
directors
from
open
space
and
a
number
of
other
departments
and
their
kind
of
vetting
project
as
well,
and
then
the
last
open
house
will
be
February
18th
and
that
will
be
actually
looking
at
the
draft
plan
which
we
then
after
which
will
come
to
the
Planning
Board,
the
other
boards
and
the
City
Council.
N
N
Well,
it
will
live,
it
will
live
here
with
the
city,
and
you
know
the
city
leases
that
lat
the
city
leases
the
land
to
the
Colorado
Chautauqua
and
to
the
car.
So
I
would
imagine
that
it
would
reside
with
the
lease
as
a
document,
but
I
haven't
thought
about
that.
That's
it
that's
a
pretty
good
question.
Actually
it.
A
Affects
us,
because
if
it's
gonna
be
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
you
know
sort
of
like
a
transit
plan
or
other
things
that
are
adopted
by
reference
into
the
comp
plan.
Then
you
know
we're
improving
body
as
well
as
City
Council,
and
if
it
is
a
standalone
plan,
then
you
know
you're
asking
for
council
to
approve
it
and
we'll
just
make
a
recommendation
so
I
just.
N
N
Was
lucky
look
to
you
all
to
make
a
recommendation
as
to
where
it
might
where
it
might
end
up
and
where
it
might
be
referenced,
and
certainly
the
comprehensive
plan
which
I
hadn't
thought
of,
but
that
would
make
sense
that
it
should
be
at
least
mentioned
in
there.
You
know,
assuming
that
it's
a
good,
a
good
plan
and
it
works
out.
Well,
okay,.
A
N
N
Think
one
of
the
really
big
vulnerabilities
up
there
is
wildfire
and
Fire,
which
can
happen
so
quickly,
so
figuring
out
ways
to
anticipate
that
and
and
perhaps
create
breaks
and
protect
buildings
and
and
the
lens
the
landscape
itself
in
the
event
that
that
might
happen.
So
yeah
thanks
for
your
time.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
Okay
great
give.
O
O
As
this
is
the
first
project
and
in
kind
of
a
reinvigorated
program,
we've
tried
to
be
really
intentional
about
establishing
precedent
and
kind
of
creating
templates
for
future
sub
community
planning
projects.
During
that
initial
phase
of
work,
and
then
we
also
launched
into
the
inventory
and
analysis,
paperwork
and
I'm
going
to
present
those
results
to
describe
where
we're
at
on
the
city's
decision-making
wheel,
working
towards
the
completion
of
the
inventory
and
analysis
phase
of
work
brings
us
to
stage
four,
which
is
sharing
a
foundation
of
information
and
inquiry
throughout
the
process.
O
So
far,
we've
tried
to
create
greater
clarity
around
the
purpose
of
sub
community
planning,
which
is
to
implement
the
goals
of
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan
in
the
East
Boulder
project.
We've
worked
really
hard
to
communicate
this,
and
the
work
we've
completed
so
far
has
been
directly
guided
and
informed
by
the
goals
of
the
BBC,
P
and
I.
Think
that
you'll
see
that
in
our
approach
to
some
of
the
technical
work,
as
well
as
the
community
engagement
efforts,
so
that
kind
of
brings
us
to
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight.
O
O
So
as
a
reminder
about
the
area
we're
talking
about
I
just
wanted
to
share
this
map?
The
East
Boulder
sub
community
includes
land
to
the
north
of
Arapaho
Avenue
in
kind
of
east
of
Foothills
Parkway
it
sort
of
jogs
along
Belmont
there.
These
boundaries
were
updated
and
approved
by
council.
This
past
January,
as
we've
discussed
previously,
that
while
the
boundary
lines
help
us
focus
on
an
area
of
study
were
not
entirely
limited
by
the
red
dotted
line
and
we
do
consider
areas
of
impact
in
neighborhoods
surrounding
the
sub
community
as
part
of
this
process.
O
So
our
work
in
sub
Community
Planning
is
really
directed
by
answering
these
three
questions
with
the
community.
First,
who
is
East
Boulder
next?
What
do
you
want
to
be
and
then,
finally,
how
do
we
get
there?
The
work
we've
done
thus
far
is
striving
to
answer
that.
First
question
and
we've
taken
to
we've
taken
a
two-pronged
approach
to
this.
So
we've
conducted
both
a
data
based
inventory
and
have
developing
and
have
been
developing
an
experience
based
inventory
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
each
of
these
first.
The
data
based
inventory
is
really
about
the
numbers.
O
So
what
do
we
have
in
East
boulder
today
and
how
much
is
there?
We
used
a
variety
of
sources
to
collect
this
information,
including
national
resources.
Like
the
census.
We
looked
at
some
of
our
state
resources
like
Sita
state
demographers
office
and
then
a
lot
of
our
local
resources,
including
the
city's
in-house
data
catalog,
as
well
as
some
of
the
internally
generated
reports.
O
Departments
across
the
city
have
collected
a
lot
of
great
data
on
all
kinds
of
topics
and
that's
been
really
useful
in
helping
us
paint
a
picture
of
East
boulders
existing
conditions,
but,
as
we
know,
the
the
data
often
doesn't
represent
sort
of
the
whole
picture,
there's
much
more
to
a
neighborhood
and
to
a
sub
community
than
just
the
numbers.
So
we've
been
developing
kind
of
this
catalogue
of
experiences.
In
addition
to
this,
with
project
teams
working
group
members
and
the
community,
we've
walked
different
sites
throughout
East
folder.
O
O
It
feels
like
everybody's
sort
of
working
together.
So
that's
been
really
nice
to
see
and
isn't
always
the
case.
So
it's
a
great
group
we've
also
collected
experience
based
information
through
a
recent
series
of
events.
These
events
were
hosted
by
working
group
members
and
city
staff.
So
we
went
out
in
August
to
nine
different
locations
across
the
sub
community
to
ask
people
about
their
experiences
in
the
area.
This
effort
was
really
focused
on
going
to
where
people
are
so.
O
For
example,
we
went
to
the
hospital
cafeteria
over
lunch
and
talked
to
hospital
employees
and
Wow
aerospace
employees
who
use
that
cafeteria
really
frequently.
We
went
to
Velma
bike
Park
during
a
Wednesday
night
race
series
hung
out
at
popular
bus
stops
during
rush
hours,
and
the
idea
was
to
collect
information
directly
from
people
that
could
be
considered
in
daily
users
of
the
area.
O
So
I
think
you
know
that
that
kind
of
serious
events
we
we
learned
a
lot.
Not
only
did
it
give
our
working
group
members
opportunities
to
speak
directly
with
kind
of
people
that
are
the
users
of
the
site,
but
I
think
everyone
that
participated
got
to
experience
sort
of
different
sites
throughout
the
sub
community
that
maybe
they
don't
visit
that
often
so.
That
was
kind
of
a
great
tactic
that
we
haven't
tried
before
and
we'll
probably
try
to
use
again
to
open
up
the
conversation.
O
So
first
there's
some
quick
numbers.
The
sub
community
includes
about
1,600
acres.
There
are
691
parcels
in
the
area,
only
466
residents
and
almost
17,000
jobs,
so
for
a
bit
of
context
and
the
area
makes
up
about
10%
of
total
area
of
the
city,
which
kind
of
makes
sense.
We
have
10
sub
communities,
so
it's
1/10
of
the
city,
but
what's
interesting,
is
that
the
number
of
parcels
represents
less
than
2%
of
the
number
of
properties,
so
the
quantity
of
properties.
O
So
what
that
tells
us
is,
we
have
really
large
properties,
large
parcels
in
this
area
and
then
also
kind
of
fewer
property
owners
making
up
the
land
area.
The
466
residence
is
really
just
the
population
of
San
lázaro,
which
is
a
mobile
home
community.
On
the
east
side
of
the
sub
community
and
that
site
is
actually
located
outside
of
the
city
boundaries
in
Boulder,
County
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
site
later
and
then
the
17,000
jobs
represent
about
16%
of
jobs
in
the
city.
O
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
purpose
of
sub
Community
Planning
is
to
implement
the
goals
of
the
B
VCP,
and
so
we've
directed
our
inventory
work
to
inform
these
goals
and
online
with
the
six
focus
areas
of
the
BBC
P,
so
I'll
present
the
goals
and
our
findings
for
each
of
the
focus
areas.
So
we'll
start
with
housing,
affordability
and
diversity.
O
The
major
goals
of
this
focus
area
are
to
increase
the
number
of
affordable
units
in
the
city
and
to
increase
the
diversity
of
housing
types
so
kind
of
starting
with
the
data,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
only
one
residential
area
within
the
boundaries
of
the
sub
community
San
lázaro
Park.
The
area
includes
313
manufactured
home
sites
in
Boulder
County.
There
are
no
other
residential
properties
in
the
area
today
and
no
units
in
the
permanent
in
the
permanently
affordable
housing
program.
O
O
During
our
engagement
series,
we
asked
folks
if
they
would
consider
living
in
East
Boulder.
Sixty-One
percent
of
the
people
we
spoke
with
in
person
indicated
that,
yes,
they
would
consider
it
many
offered
the
caveat
that
the
housing
would
have
to
be
affordable
to
them
and
then
online
thirty-eight
percent
said
yes,
they
would
consider
living
in
East,
Boulder
20
percent
said
maybe
they
would
consider
it
in
42
said
no.
No
thanks
provide
a
bit
of
insight
into
who
participated
in
these
efforts.
O
O
O
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
lots
of
jobs
in
the
area,
there
are
eight
hundred
and
twenty
businesses
located
in
East
Boulder.
This
includes
some
major
employers
like
Ball
Aerospace,
as
well
as
many
of
the
areas
important
small
and
local
businesses.
We
have
887
acres
owned
for
industrial
or
commercial
uses,
so
that's
around
half
of
the
total
area
and
then
related
to
getting
all
those
people
to
their
jobs
and
businesses.
Our
colleagues
and
transportation
found
that
76%
of
the
area's
daily
commuters
are
driving
alone
to
work.
O
That's
pretty
consistent
with
what
we
found
through
engagement.
So
most
people
are
driving
to
East
Boulder,
so
there's
lots
of
room
for
improvement
to
meet
some
of
the
city
wide
goals
on
reducing
the
number
of
single
occupant
vehicles
coming
to
the
city.
We've
been
working
closely
with
transportation,
folks
to
collect
information
about
transportation,
options,
kind
of
the
plans
for
the
future
and
are
going
to
continue
to
work
with
them
to
identify
solutions
for
this.
O
O
O
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
consider
when
thinking
about
design,
quality
and
aesthetics
is
historic
character.
There
are
two
historic
landmarks
in
the
sub
community:
one
is
a
small
white
house
on
the
south
side
of
Valmont
and
the
other
is
a
white
kind
of
farmhouse
structure,
they're
both
located
in
Belmont
City,
Park
and
not
really
connected
to
other
areas
of
the
sub
community.
So
compared
to
other
city,
landmarks
or
historic
districts
in
the
city,
there
really
isn't
kind
of
an
enough
in
this
area
to
give
it
sort
of
a
unified,
an
aesthetic
character.
O
C
I'm
just
curious
when
you
talk
about
historic
landmarks,
you're
talking
specifically
about
buildings
that
have
already
been
landmarked
or
dezik,
so
you're,
not
it's
not
actually
a.
Let
me
ask
it
this
way.
Was
there
a
survey
done
by
landmark
staff
to
identify
potential,
potentially
historic
buildings?
No.
O
But
we
do
kind
of
see
this
sort
of
lack
of
consistency,
maybe
as
sort
of
an
opportunity
it
could
provide
a
certain
level
of
freedom
and
creativity
and
we're
gonna
work
with
community
members
moving
forward
to
help
define
the
character
of
the
area
so
that
future
redevelopment
may
be
in
line
with
community
expectations
and
then
related
to
the
pedestrian
oriented
neighborhoods.
We
looked
at
the
walk
access
model
developed
as
part
of
the
pedestrian
plan
update
to
help
evaluate
the
area,
and
so
I
think
you've
seen
a
similar
graphic
to
this.
O
When
you
reviewed
the
transportation
master
plan.
This
is
part
of
the
the
pedestrian
master
plan,
East
Boulder,
the
East
Boulder
sub
community,
scored
low
or
very
low
for
walk
access,
and
what
I
I
think
is
pretty
great
about
this
model,
as
it
considers
both
pedestrian
facilities,
so
availability
and
quality
of
sidewalks
as
well
as
availability
of
destinations.
D
Know
you
have
that
slide
up.
Is
this
one
of
those
ArcGIS
Maps?
Yes,
you
mentioned
in
there,
okay,
dad
and
that's
something
that
is
not
generating
maps
that
we
see
on
any
of
the
existing
external
websites
right
now,
you're
using
it
internally
for
pedestrian
walkability
and
now
things
on
East
Boulder.
D
D
O
We
also
asked
participants
about
feelings
of
safety
walking
in
the
sub
community.
Most
people
who
participated
in
person
said:
yes,
they
do
feel
safe
walking
around,
whereas
online
it
was
about
half
who
indicated
yes
and
a
third
of
participants
indicated
that
feelings
of
safety
depended
on
the
time
of
day
that
dependent
on
the
time
of
day,
option
wasn't
available
to
in-person
participants,
but
we
did
sort
of
hear
this
a
lot,
especially
from
workers
at
the
big
businesses
just
north
of
Arapaho.
O
So
the
East
Boulder
sub
community
is
at
the
confluence
of
a
lot
of
the
city's
major
creeks,
including
Boulder
and
South
Boulder,
Creek,
450,
acres
of
land
er
and
the
high
hazard
inconvenience
zones,
and
this
is
a
great
concern
to
many
of
our
community
members.
We
have
heard
from
a
lot
of
folks
in
the
neighborhood
south
of
Arapaho,
who
experienced
the
2013
floods
and
incorporating
flood
mitigation
and
resilience
planning
into
this
project
is
extremely
important
to
them.
So
we're
definitely
continuing
to
consider
that
moving
forward.
O
Another
issue
that
we
look
at
that
can
contribute
to
flood
mitigation,
but
also
air
quality
and
energy
use
is
canopy
coverage,
so
how
much
of
an
area
is
shaded
by
tree
canopy
I'm
an
East
Boulder.
We
have
less
than
5
percent
canopy
coverage.
The
citywide
urban
forestry
goal
is
16%.
It's
a
lot
of
room
for
improvement
here
and
then
something
else
that
is
unique
and
I.
Think
it's
kind
of
cool
about
East
folder.
O
Is
we
have
a
concentration
in
this
area
of
waste
and
recycling
facilities,
so
eco
cycle
resource
that
was
around
the
south
side
of
Arapaho,
but
also
Western
disposal
and
Boulder
County
recycling,
so
we're
trying
to
think
about
how
we
can
take
advantage
of
sort
of
concentration
of
those
services
and
work
with
area
businesses
and
potentially
future
residents
to
improve
sustainability
efforts
and
reduce
waste
and
then
also
related
to
resilience.
O
This
is
a
really
important
area
of
the
city
for
emergency
management,
so
Boulder
County,
Sheriff's,
Office,
Office
of
Emergency
Management
and
then
the
hospital
and
emergency
room
are
all
located
in
this
sub
community.
So
these
are
considered
critical
facilities
to
the
entire
city
and
important
place
is
to
incorporate
in
future
planning.
O
O
The
next
focus
area
is
about
small
local
business
and
the
major
goals
are
to
support
and
retain
small
local
businesses
and
to
provide
affordable
business
space.
In
the
city,
so,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
820
businesses
in
East,
Boulder
and
a
lot
of
these
businesses
are
I.
Think
what
really
defines
the
area
for
community
members
in
February,
we
did
a
Valentine's
Day
campaign
where
we
asked
people
what
they
loved
about
East
Boulder,
an
overwhelming
majority
of
the
responses
described
some
of
the
businesses
that
people
love
and
really
kind
of
cherish
in
the
area.
O
O
The
industrial
and
office
space
is
really
important
to
businesses
in
this
area,
but
as
I
described,
though
rates
have
been
increasing.
It's
a
major
topic
taken
on
by
the
working
group
and
they've,
been
having
some
really
candid
conversations
about
how
to
make
improvements
in
the
area
without
creating
an
environment
that
becomes
unaffordable
to
the
businesses
who
are
there
today.
So
we're
continuing
to
explore
that
the
final
focus
area
is
surrounding
arts
and
culture
and
major
goals
include
including
Arts
in
the
community
benefit
policies
and
supporting
arts
and
cultural
experiences
as
essential
to
well
be.
O
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
looked
at
in
our
city
data
was
the
availability
at
public
art
and
so
I
think
the
city
has
around
100
pieces
citywide
across
the
city.
Three
are
located
in
East,
Boulder,
there's
two
involvement
city
park
and
then
one
at
an
access
point
to
the
Boulder
Creek
path
and
then
something
else,
that's
that's
really
fun.
O
We've
sort
of
discovered
through
this
process
is
that
the
sub
community
has
a
ton
of
arts
and
culture
related
businesses,
artist,
gallery,
studios
performance
venues
and
places
to
learn
about
art
are
kind
of
clustered
and
in
sort
of
these
pockets
you
see
on
the
map
up
there,
so
we're
thinking.
We
have
a
really
great
opportunity
to
celebrate
the
work
of
these
artists
and
find
ways
to
expose
some
of
the
this
arts
and
culture
to
the
rest
of
the
city.
O
When
we
ask
people
if
they
consider
East
Boulder
a
destination
for
arts
and
culture
today,
the
majority
of
people
we
asked
in
person
said
yes.
However,
I
should
mention
that
we
asked
this
question
to
folks
attending
a
matinee
at
the
boulder
dinner
theater,
so
they
really
traveled
there
specifically
for
a
cultural
artistic
event,
but
participants
online,
as
you
can
see,
do
not
consider
East,
Boulder
a
destination
for
arts
and
culture.
So
I
think
you
know
kind
of
knowing
what
we
know
now.
O
We'll
work
with
our
colleagues
in
the
office
of
arts
and
culture
to
to
shift
that
perspective
of
them,
and
so
all
this
inventory
work
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
details
included
in
the
draft
report.
I
think
everybody
has
a
copy,
so
the
intention
of
the
report
is
to
really
capture
and
document
a
holistic
understanding,
both
the
data
and
experiences
of
existing
conditions
in
East
Boulder
today,
as
well
as
identify
the
ability
and
the
capacity
for
the
sub
community
to
contribute
to
citywide
goals
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan.
O
What
we
found
through
this
process
is
that
East
Boulder
has
the
ability
to
make
contributions
to
in
all
of
these
focus
areas
and
as
we
move
forward
into
concept,
development
and
scenario
testing,
the
challenge
is
going
to
be
prioritizing
where
how
and
when
we
can
make
an
impact
on
these
goals,
and
so
the
reports
been
out
for
the
past
two
weeks.
I
think
we're
collecting
public
comment
to
feed
into
the
final
report
until
October
11th,
but
we've
gotten
some
some
initial
feedback.
O
At
the
end
of
August,
we
launched
the
concept
development
phase
with
the
working
group
by
brainstorming
potential
programs,
policies
and
projects
that
could
achieve
our
citywide
goals.
We're
gonna
share
those
ideas
with
topic
area
specialists
in
the
city
and
begin
to
collect
more
ideas
about
what
this
sub
community
wants
to
be
in
the
future
from
community
members.
O
This
phase
of
work-
this
kind
of
who
do
you
want
to
be-
is
really
sort
of
the
heart:
the
meat
of
the
project
and
we're
anticipating
about
a
five
month
five
month
schedule
to
complete
that
so
I
can
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
the
inventory,
but
at
this
time,
I'd
love
to
get
your
feedback
on
the
report.
O
If
there's
anything,
you
feel
is
really
missing
from
from
what
we've
documented
or
or
if
there's
things
that
you
wish
were
included
that
you
want
no
about
I'd
love
to
hear
that
and
then
the
main
questions
for
the
evening
are
really
about.
Do
you
agree
with
the
key
issues
and
conclusions,
and
then
do
you
agree
with
the
proposed
next
steps?
Okay,.
A
B
Yeah,
just
as
as
the
Planning
Board
wrapped
on
some
of
these
meetings,
I
just
had
some
additional
embroidery
that
I
thought
the
board
might
be
not
not
meant
as
discussion,
but
just
to
add
to
your
very
good
presentation.
Sure
first
I
think
I'd
like
to
congratulate
the
staff
Holly
and
Alice
and
and
Miss
King
have
have
done
a
great
job
on
this
they're
enthusiastic
and
very
good
at
keeping
a
nice
atmosphere
and
keeping
things
moving
in
the
in
the
team,
and
so
congratulations
for
that.
I
think
that's
really
worth.
B
One
of
them
is
to
to
make
sure
you
realize
that
the
boulder
Airport
is
included
in
this
area,
and
so
the
future
of
the
airport
itself
may
be
a
significant
aspect
of
that.
This
plan
will
have
to
deal
with.
There
have
been
various
comments
made
about
devoting
some
of
that
land
to
housing
and
so
on.
Ultimately,
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
you
bring
back
your
tent
I've.
D
B
So
the
future
of
the
airport
is
in
a
V
big
deal.
The
only
residents
in
this
area
are
those
living
in
San
Lazaro,
which
is
actually
not
within
the
city
limits,
although
they
do
receive
city
utilities
of
water
and
so
on,
and
so
I
think,
potentially
the
future
of
San,
lázaro
and
and
its
status
with
respect
to
the
city
may
be
an
element.
B
Thirdly,
the
future
of
the
Belmont
power
plant
after
it's
closed
is
something
that
that
we
should
pay
attention
to
and
also
the
consequences
of,
various
decisions
on,
affordability
of
space
for
various
businesses
and
and
studios
and
r-type
activities
are
very
relevant
here.
This
is
one
of
the
areas
that,
where
it's
still
affordable
for
for
auto
firms
and
light
industry
and
art
studios
to
function
and
based
on
the
decisions
we
make,
will
have
potentially
a
very
significant
impact
on
the
affordability
of
that
space.
G
D
I
didn't
know
if
you
wanted
to
jump
I
just
was
it's
not
urgent,
but
thank
you
for
bringing
those
up
and
thank
you
for
this
wonderful
planet.
There
were
a
lot
of
things
in
here
that
really
resonated
with
me
and
I'll
probably
have
to
loop
back
to
cover
some
of
them.
But
let
me
just
ask
them
on
those
four
things:
I'm.
O
D
D
O
D
D
Yeah
I
guess
I
guess
that's
just
kind
of
what
kind
of
struck
me
was
that
there
there
were
there
was
this
sort
of
I
knew
in
the
back
of
my
mind
that
there
was
all
this,
but
there
isn't
that
much
explicit
language
in
this
version
of
the
document
that
says
that
that
might
be
in
scope.
So
I
don't
know
this
I
guess
my
feedback
might
be
to
at
some
point
make
it
kind
of
more
explicit.
If
there's
gonna
be
a
discussion
about
that,
because
it's
that's
pretty
interesting
thing.
D
L
Someone
who
flies
told
me
their
signs
up
at
the
airport,
alerting
people
that
the
airport
is
in
danger
and
I.
Remember
when
John
Patton
was
chair.
That
came
up
often
when
that's
area
when
this
came
up
because
of
his
work
in
aviation
and
I've
heard
many
say
that
the
airport
is
important
to
our
business
community,
though
I
don't
know
much
about
flying
or
runway
lengths,
but
I
know
their
own
runway
isn't
long
enough
for
a
lot
of
planes,
but
is
the
what
is
the
status
of
that
so.
O
Last
week,
the
weeks
or
any
other
lab
that
our
September
working
group
meeting
actually
took
place
at
the
airport
and
we
had
Dennis
Godfrey
who's.
The
current
airport
manager
present
issues
of
the
airport
master
plan
at
that
meeting,
and
then
there
were
a
number
of
tenants
of
the
airport
who
came
and
spoke
about
their
businesses
and
what
they
do
there.
O
O
Climate
businesses
that
use
different
types
of
lidar
and
things
like
that,
we're
all
accessing
the
airport
as
a
part
of
the
operations
of
their
business,
so
I
think
that
that's
definitely
an
important
consideration
related
to
changing
uses
at
the
airport.
There
is
no
planner
sort
of
directive
that
that
would
happen
in
the
near
future.
The
airport
master
plans
next
update
as
I
think
in
2025,
so
that
might
be
an
appropriate
time.
I
know
that
there
are
restrictions
on
the
types
of
uses
that
can
take
place
there
based
on
how
the
airport
is
funded.
L
J
I
may
ask
a
question
team
to
follow
out
of
lumen,
so
since
you've
been
having
some
discussions
on
side
and
also
presumably
people
related
to
the
to
the
airport,
were
there
any
indication
that
in
fact,
they
would
like
to
see
additional
resources
for
the
airport?
Was
there
anything
that
gave
you
a
sense
that
maybe
these
potential
changes
happen
or
they're
ways
to
enhance
it?
Was
there
a
need
for
such
thing?
Was
there
any
of
that
at.
O
O
L
C
D
D
J
J
O
J
O
So
there's
no
plans
where
we're
creating
the
plan.
Now.
What
we
know
is
that
this
community
is
outside
the
city
boundary.
Today
we
evaluated
it
against
our
policies
for
annexation
and
the
area
is
eligible
for
annexation
based
on
I.
Think
it's
one
point:
one
six
is
our
annexation
policy
in
the
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
O
Yeah
we've
we
have
one
of
our
working
group.
Members
is
a
resident
of
San
Lazaro
and
we
are,
through
the
month
of
October,
doing
a
series
of
engagements
with
students
and
parents
of
children
in
this
community
that
attend
Eisenhower,
Elementary
and
then
there's
eco
arts
program
that
we've
contracted
with
growing
up
Boulder
who's
working
with
eco
arts,
who
is
gonna,
help
us
in
San
lázaro
de
to
get
more
information
about
what
they're
interested
in
seeing
just.
J
So
that
you
know
we
are
actually
also
working,
I
mean
I'm
just
helping
along,
but
yeah.
We
establishing
more
direct
connections
with
that
community.
Okay,
some
of
the
through
the
Catholic
Church
here
in
Boulder.
So
we
have
an
event:
come
not
this
Sunday,
in
fact,
okay
and
the
idea
is
to
start
getting
more
feedback
directly
from
the
community.
So
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
people
who
attend
this
parish
are
from
the
various
enclaves,
and
some
Lasser
is
one
of
them.
Okay,
great!
J
J
L
O
H
L
L
O
A
That's
true,
and
it
goes
I
can
just
tell
you-
have
studied
it.
It
goes
beyond
just
the
use
of
cooling
pond
and
for
fly
ash
from
the
coal
burning
of
the
power
plant
back
when
he
used
to
burn
coal
because
there
was
the
bowel.
My
PU
was
used
for
processing
of
all
kinds
of
ore
for
a
hundred
years
or
more
before
so,
there's
got
to
be
heavy
metals
in
there
too
Sarah
I.
C
A
Don't
want
to
flow
back
and
forth
too
much
more
I
mean
right
now.
What
we've
been
doing
is
kind
of
giving
our
general
impressions,
but
I'd
really
like
to
get
it
back
to
that
slide,
where
you
know
you're
asking
for
our
input
in
those
two
areas.
So
if
people
feel
like
they've
asked
enough
questions
and
made
enough
general
comments,
maybe
we
can
focus
up
if,
if
there
any
more
general
questions
or
comments,
maybe
just
get
about
now,
no.
A
A
C
C
C
I'll
start
with
okay.
So
this
the
balance
of
future
jobs
and
housing
I
was
struck
as
I
was
reading
the
report,
which
was
fascinating.
It
was
so
interesting
to
read.
Ok
much
is
the
challenge
of,
or
the
perhaps
unintended
consequence
of,
Boulder
continuing
to
focus
as
to
continue
its
role
as
a
regional
economic
hub,
insofar
as
it
sets
us
up
for
a
very
dense
Boulder
and
a
lot
of
in
commuters
from
what
are
essentially
more
residential
communities
around
us,
and
this
seems
to
me
like
very
1970s
thinking
and
I'm
just
concerned.
A
G
J
In
the
chart
where
you
should
essentially
the
reversal
in
terms
of
the
responses
that
you
got
from
in
person
versus
online
and
wondering
what
the
difference
in
the
demographics
were,
if
there
were
actual
workers
that
they
don't
think
that
would
like
to
live
in
that
area
or
all
the
people
who
don't
work
there.
But
they
would
like
to
be.
Was
that
any
feedback?
Any
other
questions
regarding
to
data?
You
can
kind
of
dig
in
a
little
bit
better
in
terms
of
what
demographics
were
in
favor
versus
those
who
were
not
so.
O
We
did
not
explicitly
ask
demographic
questions
at
the
in-person
events,
just
based
on
kind
of
the
limit
of
time
we
were
trying
to
get
as
many
people
to
participate
as
we
could,
and
so
that
questionnaire
was
short.
The
question
that
we
did
ask
everyone
was:
do
you
live
in
Boulder?
If
not
where,
and
how
did
you
get
here
today?
So
did
you
drive
ride
a
bike,
etc?.
H
O
O
O
Don't
have
sort
of
the
the
correlation
of
that
hard
data,
but
just
from
my
experience
of
talking
to
people,
there
were
a
lot
of
people,
particularly
in
Flatiron
Park,
who
were
maybe
kind
of
younger
professional.
Yes,
I
would
love
to
live
in
Boulder
I
can't
afford
it
it'd
be
great
to
be
able
to
walk
here.
Yes
I'd.
You
know
yes,
I'm
interested
in
living
in
East
folder,
where,
as
sort
of
the
demographics
of
folks
that
we
spoke
to
at
the
hospital,
for
instance,
were
already
Boulder
residents
and
when
asked,
would
you
live
in
East
Boulder?
O
J
That's
what
I
was
trying
to
get
out,
because
maybe
these
are
people
who
can't
afford
living
closer
and
also
they
already
established
versus
the
people
who
are
really
trying
to
get
in
will
be
willing
to
live
in
that
area.
So
I
think
that,
in
terms
of
those
who
already
are
here,
they
don't
need
to
move
outward
versus.
Those
who
are
not
even
here
could
come
in,
and
that
may
be
a
good,
desirable
location.
Okay,.
J
A
J
B
It's
a
little
bit
unfair
I
guess
I
get
to
have
my
chance
at
the
Apple
here
and
also
at
our
meetings
of
the
group.
I
think
that
so
far
this
is
has
been
great
work.
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
think
that
the
key
issues
that
have
been
identified
that
that
I
agree
with
them
completely
I
lied
out
some
of
the
ones
that
earlier
tonight
that
I
think
should
be
addressed
explicitly
and
I
still
feel
that
way.
B
I
think
I'm
also
very
cautious
about
the
use
of
the
survey
data
that
that
you
provided
I,
think
that
is
interesting
and
it's
obviously
appropriate
to
collect
it.
But
as
far
as
drawing
any
conclusions
from
it,
I
think
I
have
the
same
comment
as
somebody
who
else
who
wanted
to
statistically
valid
surveys.
B
You
know
it's
interesting
to
hear
what
they
think,
but
but
I,
don't
think
they're
the
public
that
we
are
trying
to
see
trying
to
reach
in
this
and
get
information
from.
So
so,
anyway,
that's
a
just
a
general
comment
and
I'm
aware
that
statistically
accurate
surveys
are
difficult
and
expensive
to
to
run,
but
I
don't
see
that
it's
appropriate
to
use
these
kind
of
surveys
on
their
own
to
develop
conclusions
about
how
we
move
ahead.
Mm-Hmm.
D
All
right
so
on
the
question:
does
the
board
agree
with
the
key
issues
and
conclusions
of
the
draft
into
analysis
report?
I
was
just
really
excited
to
see
this
area
get
some
attention.
I
had
an
office
out
on
Airport
Road
for
a
while,
and
one
of
the
things
really
really
resonated
with
me
was
talking
about
better
transport
or
transportation
option
alternatives
for
each
Boulder
Road.
You
have
to
walk
a
mile
to
get
to
the
nearest
bus,
stop
on
valmont's.
So
that's
that's.
A
pretty
hefty
lift
to
get
people
to
use
mass
transit
bike.
D
D
So
I
think
that'll
be
really
good
to
get
some
strong
recommendations
from
the
working
group.
I'd
love
to
think
that
additional
housing
opportunities
at
the
municipal
airport
could
really
increase
the
pressure
to
have
good
transport
out
to
that
area
and
make
it
a
win-win
in
many
respects.
I
understand
the
challenges
with
approaching
the
airport
issue
in
a
working
group
like
this
and
I
also
understand
that
working
group
members
sometimes
get
impact
they
can
make
and
then
there's
just
a
lot
of
other
moving
parts,
and
it
can
be
a
little
bit
disheartening.
D
So
I
can
understand
being
a
little
bit
careful
you're
moving
into
that
area.
But
there
are
key
questions.
We're
asking
ourselves
a
city
that
really
fit
nicely
into
the
working
group,
and
one
of
them
is
it
is
and
I,
don't
necessarily
think
that
it
needs
to
be
drawn
out
as
its
own
issue.
It
can
be
put
into
the
affordable,
affordable,
--I
t,
affordable
housing
issue,
because
it
sort
of
helps
address
that
right.
So
look
at
it
in
that
context
and
with
that
prism.
D
But
at
some
point
it
may
take
some
some
willpower
to
ask
ourselves
whether
those
few
loud
voices
who
are
so
excited
about
having
an
airport
within
our
city
limits
are
the
voices
that
should
win
the
day.
The
next
updates
to
that
master
plan,
I
think,
is
in
2024,
so
yeah
it's
about
five
years
away.
So
you
know
maybe
have
some
recommendations
that
would
kind
of
help,
if
even
if
it
doesn't
happen
in
the
working
group
timeframe
and
then
just
in
the
area
of.
D
D
But
there's
a
lot
more
to
it
than
that
when
it
comes
to
housing
in
light
industrial
and
you
identified
that
earlier,
the
possibility
of
pollutants
or
smells
or
various
things
so
I
think
it's
gonna.
The
same
community
makes
me
feel
like
well,
it's
just
a
matter
of
us
all
in
Boulder,
saying
something
but
I
think
it's
going
to
some
of
those
things
like
changes
to
the
use
tables
and
land
use
issues
are
gonna,
require
certain
experts
to
come
in
and
work
with
the
working
group
and
kind
of
help
guide.
D
D
As
you
start
to
plan
out
deep
dives
into
some
of
these
areas
is,
do
a
lot
of
background
work
to
help
the
working
group
along
because
they're
not
going
to
know
how
use
tables
work,
and
you
know
how
zoning
works
in
great
detail
so
help
them
kind
of
metabolize
that
to
see
how
that
can
inform
the
output
of
the
working
group.
So
so
I
I
think
the
kind
of
overarching
thing
with
that
and
the
airport
is,
you
know,
I'd
love
to
see
a
little
more
punch.
D
I
can
understand
why
they're
being
embedded
into
the
other
priorities,
but
anywhere
we
can
start
to
make
it
more
a
little
more
explicit
that
some
of
these
things
might
be
on
the
table,
and
this
is
what
you
might
see
as
recommendations
out
of
the
group
would
be
useful.
So
those
were
two
or
three
areas.
I
wanted
to
cover
great.
A
Thanks
so
I
considered,
I
agree
with
the
key
issues
and
conclusions
in
the
report
and
then
some
more
comment
area,
and
that
is
you
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
part
of
me
that
feels,
like
you
know,
in
this
area,
where
it's
one
of
the
only
areas
left
in
Boulder
where
people
can
afford
to
run
businesses
that
don't
produce
don't
throw
off
huge
numbers
of
dollars
per
square
foot
to
pay
the
rent.
Consequently,
there's
actually
art
and
innovation
going
on
out
there.
Maybe
the
best
thing
to
do
with
it
is
not
plan
it
at
all.
A
A
You
know
that
said
you
know,
I
said
I
did
agree
with
all
these
key
issues
and
in
the
conclusions,
and
so
things
like
giving
people
a
chance
to
work
where
they
live
and
live,
where
they
work
and
reduce
carbon
footprint
and
stuff.
Those
main
goals,
11
or
12
goals
you
have
in
the
back,
are
important
goals
and
so
going
back
to
two
point,
two
on
light
industrial
areas,
which
is
a
policy
that
the
Planning
Board
worked
pretty
hard
on
and
the
Comprehensive
Plan
Update.
A
A
You
know
kind
of
magical
area
and
Boulder
where
art
happens
and
innovation
as
possible,
and
people
with
you
know
less
than
$100
a
square
foot
to
pay
for
rent
can
find
a
location
I
think
if
there's
some
way
that
we
can
without
amending
the
actual
comprehensive
plan
where
we
can
open
the
door
to
that
kind
of
housing
and
fill
in
the
other
industrial
zones
as
well.
It
would
be
really
good.
C
All
right
so
to
answer
the
question:
yes,
I
generally
agree
and
I
have
the
following
comments,
and
since
everyone's
just
given
all
their
comments,
I
will
do
the
same
in
addition
to
the
one
I
already
gave
in
terms
of
future
jobs.
Housing
balance-
this
actually
is
a
reference
it.
It
refers
in
part
to
what
Harmon
just
spoke
about
I.
C
Think
it's
I
think
we've
taught
the
the
report
thus
far
talks
about
half
of
the
challenge
of
housing
in
an
industrial
area
and
I
think
we
need
to
talk
about
the
other
half
and
with
regards
to
protecting
the
remaining
industrial
areas,
and
we
have
to
take
into
a
counter.
This
process
has
to
take
into
account
the
financial
consequences
of
adding
residential
zoning,
a
residential
building
and
industrial
areas,
while
those
noise
and
smells
are
a
challenge.
C
C
C
Another
another
item,
I
really
think
there's
a
value
in
in
asking
landmark
staff
to
actually
survey
potentially
land,
markable
locations
and
buildings
in
that
area.
Okay,
because
if
you
don't
do
it
before
it's
just
gonna,
show
up
after
and
become
a
something
of
a
challenge
and
then
the
the
waste
and
recycling
services
in
the
area.
C
It
actually
reminded
me
of
a
conversation
I
had
recently
with
someone
about
composting
and,
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
the
city's
currently
sends
its
composting
out
to
a
facility,
that's
way
way
way
out
of
town
and
it's
someone
who
does
an
amazing
job,
but
there
has
been
or
there
is
the
start
of
a
conversation
about
what
could
the
city
do
to
deal
with
its
own
calm,
stting
issues?
And
maybe
this
is
you
know
as
long
as
we've
got
all
these
waste
and
recycling
issue
recycling
facilities
in
the
same
place
or
near
each
other?
C
That
is
something
that
could
also
be
considered
and
then
my
final
item
with
regards
to
the
diversity
of
housing,
types
and
I
know
in
the
report.
You
say
you
know
we'll
get
to
that
later,
which
I
understand,
but
I
would
like
to
just
plant
my
flag
here
to
urge
you
to
incorporate
into
your
considerations
of
housing
diversity,
the
data
we
do
have
from
the
2014
in
commuter
survey
and
the
2015
missing
middle
survey.
C
The
types
of
the
housing
types
indicated
in
those
from
those
two
surveys
which
were
for
single-family
homes,
town
homes,
duplexes,
maybe
triplexes
with
yards
and
the
opportunity
to
buy,
should
be
part
of
the
conversation
because
I
think
the
develop
the
development
community
wants.
Maybe
want
to
build
one
kind
of
thing
which
is
great
but
to
get
people.
The
people
who
work
at
55th
and
Arapaho
but
live
in
wherever
live.
East
may
not
want
to
live
in
the
thing
that
developers
want
to
build.
So
really
thinking
through
what
those
stated
the
stated
desires
are.
C
L
So
I
agree
with
the
key
issues
and
I
don't
know
about
the
conclusions
yet.
I
do
think
that
the
longer
view
of
what's
going
to
constitute
industrial
I
liked
Harmons
point
that
the
smokestack
businesses
aren't
here
anymore.
I
also
think
that
so
among
us
and
I
know
Harmons
an
old
car
guy
at
heart
and
romanticizes.
The
idea
of
greasy
Joe's
place
to
go,
get
his
transmission
fix
or
he
can
talk
about
the
big
game
or
how
the
Dodgers
are
doing
or
somebody
write.
Electric
cars
have
a
lot
fewer
parts.
L
They
require
a
totally
different
sort
of
mechanic
situation
and
if
we're
gonna
be
thinking
out,
10
15,
20
years,
a
lot
of
things
are
going
to
be
changing
in
our
decarbonized
environment
and
what
passes
for
industrial
now
won't
be
the
same.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
forward-thinking
about
this
and
also
opening
the
doors
to
the
younger
generation
of
makers
who
are
returning
to
this
idea
of
doing
things
with
their
hands.
L
There
is
the
thing
that
gets
approved
in
Boulder,
which
looks
no-one's,
gonna,
really
go
visit,
Boulder
and
say
that
the
buildings
are
seen
and
Boulder
amazing,
so
bye,
dear
God.
Let's
not
do
more
of
that
here.
We
actually
have
a
chance
to
do
some
fun,
funky
cool
stuff.
That's
gonna
make
this.
You
know
I'm
sick
of
the
word
Rhino,
but
the
point
is
there's
something
we
can
do
here.
That
would
be
different
than
what
Boulder
has
and
it's
a
great
opportunity.
I
will.
O
L
L
And
funky,
but
make
it
easier
to
get
around
right
and
make
it
workable,
I
love
getting
lost
over
there.
My
wife
works
at
the
JCC
now
and
my
kid
go
other
could
go
to
horizons
and
so
I'm
out
a
nice
Boulder.
A
lot
I
also
pick
up
paint
it
that
hazardous
waste
center
for
projects
and
I
love
getting
lost
over
there.
There's
some
great
opportunities
to
do
some
cool
things
there
so
keep
it
up
and
yeah.
Thank
you
for
do.
Tackling
this.
Okay,
where's.
A
C
Well,
so,
basically,
yes,
I
do
since
the
value
of
engaging
more
of
the
more
residents
from
nearby
residential
areas
since
they
will
be
affected,
and
that
includes
the
folks
who
live
in
San
lázaro,
but
also-
and
you
listed
Vista
villages,
cherryvale,
sombrero
ranch
and
Arapaho
Ridge
and
Columbine
mobile
home
park.
C
C
Station
mass
area,
where
you
all
are
doing
a
master
plan
and
thinking
about
some
sort
of
connective
pedestrian
thing
that
would
tie
together,
let's
hoped
for
fast
tracks
and
these
multiple
bus
systems
that
buses
that
we're
trying
to
coalesce
into
to
a
to
meet
in
a
single
location
or
to
stop
in
a
single
location
that
could
end
up
being
a
really
conceivably
a
center.
That
might
be
interesting.
Yeah.
A
D
Want
to
go
next,
the
next
steps,
look
good
and
I
was
just
gonna
say
you
know
if
you
can,
if
you
want
us
to
look
at
any
stages
of
it,
I
know
that
the
concept
plan
you
know
clearly
there's
a
lot
of
excitement
in
this
room.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
fit
it
in
for
before
the
December
view
of
the
concept
plan
by
City
Council,
but
might
be
something
that
we
could
take
a
look
at
and
kind
of
help
identify
some
additional
make
it
more
interesting
to
council
or
whatever
so
yeah.
D
A
B
Think
they're,
good
I
think
what
we
should
and
I
say
we
considering
I
expect
to
continue
to
participate.
I
think
we
should
seek
to
get
more
participation
as
as
Sarah
mentioned
from
vista
village
area,
given
that
they
have
as
much
involvement
here
and
they
come
out
to
the
airport
Road
and
deal
with
what
we're
doing,
as
as
anybody
yeah
so
I'd
like
to
see
more
participation
of
the
surrounding
residents,
but
we've
already
talked
about
that.
So
I
won't
push
it
up
here.
Thank.
J
Would
be
interested
in
finding
out
if
there
is
something
that
can
be
more
focus
regarding
potential
remediation
of
any
potential
environmental
issues
in
that
area,
so
it
was
brought
up.
I,
don't
know
much
details,
but
it
does
make
sense
that
we
get
to
know
more
about
what
needs
to
be
done
because
then,
presumably,
based
on
what
we
find
out
there
would
be
more
may
be
variety
of
uses
for
the
spaces
I'm
thinking
that
maybe
this
is
also
an
opportunity
to
find
ways
to
maybe
reach
out
to
university.
J
There's
a
strong
group
of
people
that
potentially
can
look
into
contamination
and
even
I.
Listen.
The
School
of
Engineering
students
do
capstone
projects,
an
environmental
engineering
for
sure
they
have
looked
at
cases
and
they
work
on
a
project
specific
to
some
sort
of
site
and
make
recommendations.
This
could
be
a
good
case
studies
for
students
to
work
on,
and
you
could
have
some
potentially
free
labor
and
really
build
connections
with
the
University
and
engage
the
students
you
feel
part
of
the
city.
J
O
L
Chris
has
four
mondo
robot
I,
don't
know
if
you
talked
with
him,
it's
a
bad
job
over
there
in
Conestoga
by
black
belly.
Okay,
he
has
a
teasing
joke,
that's
kind
of
serious
that
they
want
to
put
together
a
brand
for
this
area
called
beast:
Boulder
East
and
whether
or
not
you
go
they
go
with
that
or
not.
L
O
So
we've
been
I
didn't
mention
it
in
the
presentation,
but
we've
been
getting
together.
These
videos
called
sub
community
stories
where
we
sort
of
interview
business
owners
in
the
area
about
sort
of
their
hopes
and
dreams
and
challenges
of
either
living
or
working
there
and
so
they're.
The
most
recent
one,
which
is
up
on
the
the
project
website
right
now,
is
an
interview
with
Hosea
Rosenberg
who
owns
black-bellied,
and
he
mentions
that
he
and
his
friends
have
like
a
East
Boulder
sign.
A
A
One
thing
that
you
know
you
could
say
is
that
we
could
do
an
inventory
analysis
or
analysis
report
on
every
one
of
sub-communities
without
actually
necessarily
turning
them
into
sub
community
plans
and
then
having
them
adopted
as
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
particularly
in
a
neighborhood
that
only
has
466
residents.
You
know,
maybe
this
one
doesn't
need
to
happen.
A
The
you
know
if
we
wanted,
if
we
thought
that
the
single
most
sort
of
contra
to
the
comprehensive
plan
aspect
of
the
sub
community
was
its
jobs,
housing
imbalance
and
it's
simple
lack
of
affordable
housing,
lack
of
housing
in
general.
You
know,
there's
a
pretty
robust
planning
process
around
changes
to
the
youth
table
and
you
could
imagine
a
change
to
the
youth
table
where
you
know
you
provide
that
you
can
add
housing
to
an
industrial
lot,
provided
that
it
goes
through
some
form
of
use
review.
A
You
know
no
additional
housing
is
allowed
at
the
expense
of
one
square
foot
of
industrial
space,
in
other
words
no
replacement
of
and
real
space
no
housing.
That
is,
you
know,
not
affordable
to
somebody
making
over
a
hundred
and
ten
percent
of
ami
is
allowed.
You
know
it
all
has
to
be
deed
restricted.
If
you
want
to
try
to
promote
only
housing
for
workers
and
not
increase,
not
you
know,
drastically
increase
the
value
of
the
house
of
the
land
in
that
area.
You
know
you
just
make
it
so.
A
The
housing
projects
can't
be
terribly
profitable
for
the
developers
because
they
have
to
keep
their
costs
down
and
serve.
You
know
middle-class
clientele
once
they're
built,
so
you
know
there's
a
part
of
me
that
says
I'd
like
to
just
see
you
know
the
infill
stuff
done
through
the
use
table
and-
and
just
say
great,
you
know,
the
inventory
and
analysis
reports
serve
the
purpose.
We
learned
everything
we
needed
to
know
about
this
neighborhood.
For
now
it's
doing
great
and
it's
kind
of
the
cradle
of
innovation
for
Boulder.
A
Let's
not
mess
with
it,
so
you
know
that's
one
way
of
of
handling
it,
and
then
you
know
you
do
your
next
inventory
and
analysis
report
on
southeast
Boulder,
a
different
neighborhood
and
potentially
do
a
sub
Community
Plan.
You
know
make
it
go
to
that
next
level,
but
and
that's
not
to
discount
any
of
this
work.
I
think
this
is
really
superb,
and
it's
just
that
sometimes
you
know
you
got
to
stop
for
a
second
and
ask
the
question
of
do.
A
I
think
the
community
outreach
is
adequate
and
if,
if
we're
gonna
do
something
around
the
environmental
remediation
piece
that
Lupita
mentioned,
even
though
most
of
the
areas
that
could
really
use
remediation
are
actually
east
of
the
East
Boulder,
so
community
plan
area
and
they're
not
included
in
this
sub
community
plan
area.
One
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
on
page
12
and
that
awesome
historical
plate
to
plate,
oh
yeah.
A
That
that
you
have
of
this
resort
advertisement
for
some
Valmont
resort
way
out
there
with
the
Velma
Butte
sticking
up
on
the
right.
You
know
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
right
next
to
the
Valmont
view.
You
can
see,
there's
a
teepee
there,
and
so
the
Belmont
view
is
actually
a
sacred
site
for
the
Arapaho
and
they
can't
really
use
it
for
any
kind
of
ceremonial
purposes
because
of
the
contamination
and
the
way
that
it's
gated
and
fenced
off.
B
A
I
think
part
of
the
question
is
I
misunderstand:
oh
no
I'm
saying
it
might
not
be
because
things
that
work
in
the
world
of
planning
sometimes
work
because
of
reasons
that
even
planners
can't
figure
out
they
just
happen.
You
know,
there's
a
you
know:
architects
make
magic,
sometimes
intentionally
and
sometimes
unintentionally
and
buildings
become
beloved
for
the
weirdest
reasons
and
parks
that
don't
look
like
they're
very
inviting
become
favorites
for
lunchtime
activities
and
parks
that
are
soft
and
have
wonderful
features
in
them.
Sometimes
just
look
too
pretty
and
nobody
spends
any
quality
time
there.
A
B
A
J
Who
want
to
make
one
come
in
considering
they're
out
kind
of
on
the
other
end
with
the
regards
of
I.
Don't
consider
that
we
have
enough
input
from
the
communities,
and
so
it
was
to
me
important
that
if
you
already
decided
there's
a
way
to
improve
on
that
aspect
that
we
move
forward,
because
we
have
been
doing
this
for
for
every
project
that
we
have
seen
and
the
community
has
plenty
to
say
often.
J
But
there
are
a
few
communities
that
they're
still
having
quite
cut
on
to
the
fact
that
they
have
a
voice
and
they
need
to
exercise
it
and
we're
working
on
those
communities.
And
one
of
those
communities
involved
here
and
so
I'm
feel
very
strongly
that
we
need
to
give
them
the
opportunity
to
speak,
and
so
that
you
can
have.
You
know,
I
think
a
more
robust
understanding
of
what
goes
on
in
there.
So
yeah
I
think
that
is
pretty
much
needed
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
of
it.
Excellent
and.
D
D
Review
and
the
insights
that
come
out
of
the
working
group
like
this
would
be
so
valuable,
regardless
of
whether
it's
in
an
area
plan
or
how
we
take
this.
But
when
we
go
through
the
use
tables,
we
can
see
why
it's
impossible
to
do
some
of
these
creative
things
that
Harman
talks
about.
Why
we,
you
know
we
can
get
around
some
of
these
things.
D
D
You
know,
change
the
character,
so
I
think
that
that
I
just
wanted
kind
of
leverage
on
these
things
that
were
said
it
just
kind
of
promote
the
idea
of
seeing
where
we
can
create
some
synergies
between
you,
stable
review
subcommittee
and
this
work
and
Charles
Pharos
on
your
list
and-
and
he
can
help
bridge
that
to
the
team
when
the
time
is
right.
If
there's
ways
we
could
work
together
and
certainly
as
an
output.
Looking
at
recommendations
for
the
use
table
changes
would
be
really
useful.
A
Yeah
and
following
up
on
that,
when
we
had
the
use
table
discussion,
we
looked
at
all
the
limited.
The
limited
uses,
the
use
limitation,
sorry
that
that
we're
being
proposed
and
I
think
the
list
went
up
to
L
17
and
at
the
time
I
proposed
an
L
18,
which
was
a
new
substance,
abuse
limitation
to
encourage
live
work
and
other
residential
infill
an
already
built
industrial
areas,
so
that
you
know
at
the
time
we
said
well,
that's
out
of
the
scope
of
this
use
table
project.
A
D
O
A
A
He
says,
I
don't
have
any
strong
feelings
on
that
part
one
way
or
the
other
just
mentioning
it.
They
had
a
lively,
quote/unquote
discussion
about
this
last
week
and
then
the
second
point
that
he
made
was
the
application
currently
only
mentions
the
Planning
Board
ex
officio
seat
on
landmarks,
but
we
also
have
a
seat
on
Davin.
Greenways
might
be
good
to
update
the
list
and
make
it
clear
that
if
you're
on
Planning
Board
you'll
be
expected
to
fill
an
ex-officio
or
backup
spot
on
another
board
too.
A
And
I
think
that
you
know
greenways
I'm,
I,
don't
even
know
what
I
was
sat
on
greenways
as
our
representative,
but
I
can't
remember
where
the
requirement
is
and
what
the
Planning
Board
members
sits
on.
Greenways
is
called
because
we're
not
an
ex-officio
member
we're
just
a
member
of
the
greenways
committee.
A
So
the
way
I
see
this
discussion,
we
can
handle
it
in
a
variety
of
ways.
One
could
be
that
we
all
just
agree
that
the
applications,
fine
as
it
is,
and
we
don't
feel
like
tinkering
with
it
another
could
be
lets
tinker
with
it
now.
Another
could
be:
let's
have
a
couple
of
volunteers
who
are
willing
to
take
take
some.
A
We
have
a
little
discussion
about
it
now
and
then
a
couple
of
volunteers
maybe
form
a
subcommittee
to
draft
changes
to
the
letter
and
then
come
back
to
the
next
planning
board
meeting
with
those
proposed
changes
so
that
we
can
all
look
at
it.
I
think
Cindy
said
she
needs
to
have
this
finalized
by
October
25th.
Is
that
correct?
A
C
A
J
Remember
the
question
about
specifically
other
than
the
Pearl
Street
Mall,
which
is
very
well
known.
I
was
thinking,
we're
gonna,
be
nice
to
kind
of
start
promoting
some
of
the
more
recent
other
less
well-known
pieces
because
for
people
who
are
not
familiar
with
got
knows,
I
went
around
and
I
loved
someone
their
most
recent
I
talked
to
my
neighbors.
I
talked
to
people
and
kind
of
check
things
out.
Is
it
you're
not
really
some
really
interesting
stuff
happening
in
the
city?
I.
L
It
is
actually
oftentimes
a
fairly
technical
and
scientific
application,
which
is
not
nearly
as
much
fun
unless
you
really
know
what
you're
doing,
which
is
why,
when
we
watch
Brian
go
into
robot
mode
and-
and
he
can
cite
all
this
stuff
he's
loving
it
he's
inside
of
it,
and
that's
also
his
job
often
times
so.
I
think
translating
that
early
on
to
applicants
that
that's
part
of
it
and
that
shouldn't
scare
them
off
I
think
it's
a
great
thing
and
we're
all
here
to
do
it
together.
I
think.
L
C
C
A
host
of
reasons,
obviously,
a
portion
of
the
work
we
do
is
a
project
comes
before
us
and
we're
asked
to
evaluate
it
based
on
the
criteria,
but
just
like
now,
a
lot
of
stuff
comes
before
us,
which
is
not
based
on
criteria.
It's
based
on
bringing
what
we
know
about
community
planning
or
community
engagement
or
communities
that
I
might
know
about
who
will
be
affected
by
decisions
that
are
being
made
by
city
staff,
and
we
live
in
a
city
where
there's
an
expectation
that
the
public
participates
and
they
participate
with
great
vim
and
vigor.
C
Planning
oriented
so
specific
to
the
letter
of
the
of
the
BRC
is
going
to
discourage
a
whole
bunch
of
people
whose
voices
need
to
be
heard
and
need
to
be
on
this
panel,
and
we
won't
end
up
with
seven
people
who
are
who
work
in
development
instead
of
a
mix
of
people
who
bring
architectural
expertise,
community,
organizing
expertise,
expertise
from
marginalized
communities,
I
just
think
we
need
to
be
really
thoughtful
about
how
we
make
this
should
be
an
inclusive
panel,
not
an
exclusive
one.
So.
A
C
J
Don't
think
we
need
to
change
it
and
I
I
trust.
Our
point
really
is:
when
you
respond
the
responses
that
we
all
make,
we
can
speak
to
the
strengths
that
you
have
so
you
know
you
don't
have
to
be
a
development
person
to
understand
codes
and
to
do
sadistic
and
to
be
able
to
deal
with.
You
know,
mathematics,
a
lot
harder
mathematics.
All
of
us
use.
So
no
I
don't
think
that
that
needs
to
be
said.
You
can't
you
can
get
that
from
what
you
read.
J
A
F
J
C
L
A
How
would
people
feel
about
a
little
more
descriptive?
Nough
surround
the
role
of
the
planning
board,
where
you
know
the
role
the
planning
board
is,
you
know
both
visionary
and
regulatory,
and
you
know
folks
who
apply
for
planning
board
need
to.
You
know
be
prepared
to.
You
know,
listen
to
the
public.
You
know
express
the
community
vision
and
and
participate
as
quasi
judicial
decision
makers,
something
like
that
and.
C
I
think
you
could
something
like
that,
and
you
can
have
a
phrase
this
and,
and
you
will
learn
all
about
the
boulder,
the
BRC
and
our
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
and
I.
Just
I.
Just
worry
that
you
end
up
with
a
very
you
end
up
to
quote
somebody
else,
a
permitting
body
rather
than
a
planning
body
and
I.
Don't
we
don't
need
to?
We
don't
need
to
be
here
if
all
we're
gonna
do
is
rubber
stamp
getting
so
so.
Yes,
yes,
you
and
trying
to
speak.
O
C
C
A
Two
people
willing
to
step
up
and
draft
language
that
would
add
in
the
stuff
that
Brian
talked
about
in
terms
of
time,
commitment
and
committee
and
and
other
board
roles,
as
well
as
a
sentence
around
the
kind
of
character
and
role
of
a
planning
board:
member,
okay,
so
Sarah's
on
there,
okay,
so
Sarah
and
Lupita.
We
want
to
do
that
and
bring
something
back
to
us
for
the
next
board
meeting,
at
which
point
you
will
probably
be
subjected
to
some
word
smithing
from
the
other.
D
D
M
A
G
G
A
A
C
C
L
A
J
A
J
A
Well,
we'll
have
to
wait
for
him
to
get
back
for
that
one
and
we
can
bring
that
up
in
our
debrief
or
matters
from
the
Planning
Board
at
the
next
board
meeting,
which
is
on
the
17th.
That's
our
calendar
check.
Okay,
so
calendar
check
here
who
can't
make
the
17th
I
won't
be
here.
Hey
Lupita
is
not
making
the
17th
and.