►
From YouTube: Somos Boulder Ep. 15 - Charlas de Inmigración
Description
Jhocelyn Avendaño y Manuela Sifuentes entrevistan a Violeta Chapin profesora de prácticas de derecho de la Universidad de Colorado Boulder para hablar sobre un evento informativo de inmigración el 29 de julio. El evento brindará información sobre la ley de inmigración de EE. UU., así como recursos disponibles para inmigrantes nuevos y establecidos.
Escucha Somos Boulder
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/somos-boulder/id1543280687
Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkLnBvZGJlYW4uY29tL3NvbW9zYm91bGRlci9mZWVkLnhtbA
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4qpFmmr4PNs8cJ3HDbncZS
iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/105743781
B
B
B
But
what
you
have
in
these
clinics
that
are
like
places
where
you
can
go
to
get
lawyers,
but
they
are
students,
they
are
studying
to
be
lawyers
and
she
supervises
it,
and
it
is
a
law
clinic
It's,
a
combination
and
she's
going
to
explain
a
bit
about
it.
It's,
a
combination
of
civil
rights,
because
immigration
laws
are
civil
law
and
criminal
law.
C
A
D
E
The
number
of
natural
disasters
that
occur
in
the
United
States
it
is
likely
that
in
the
next
decade
every
region
will
have
to
deal
with
some
kind
of
emergency
between
school
sports
and
social
life.
It
is
likely
that
when
it
happens,
you
will
not
be
with
your
children
know
what
to
do.
Smart,
gob,
diagonal
children
has
information
and
educational
tools
to
facilitate
this
conversation.
When
the
time
comes,
they
will
feel
prepared
and
not
scared.
So
talk
to
your
family
today.
A
F
You
yes,
I,
am
one
law,
professor
at
the
law
school
at
the
university
of
Colorado
in
polder
I,
have
been
here
for
14
years.
In
that
position,
I
love
doing
a
professor
and
I
am
a
professor
at
an
immigration
and
criminal
defense
clinic
and
the
clinic
is
good
in
all
law
schools.
We
have
what
are
clinics
where
students
in
their
second
and
third
year
of
studying,
can
start
to
get
out
of
the
classroom
and
start
going
to
court
and
have
real
clients.
So.
F
My
students
and
I
represent
more
than
anything
else
the
people
who
they
are
not
citizens
of
the
United
States,
and
that
can
be
seen
in
many
different
ways.
People
who
are
residents,
people
who
are
totally
undocumented
people
who
are
here
on
a
visa,
a
wide
range
of
clients,
and
we
also
have
a
wide
variety
of
cases.
I
started
out
as
a
criminal
defense
lawyer
in
Washington
DC
many
years
ago
and
I
'm
very
used
to
that
type
of
law.
B
For
those
of
us
who
are
outside
the
world
of
law,,
it
is
like
that
it
is
the
law,
it
is
true..
Everything
is
one
thing,,
but
there
is
law.
criminal
and
And.
Then
there
are
criminal
offenses
and
there
are
civil
offenses,
So
I
already
know
what
the
difference
is,
because
he
paid
attention
to
you.
But
could
you
explain
to
our
podcast
listeners
Yes.
F
Of
course,
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I
was
a
criminal
defense
lawyer
for
many
years,
and
we
have
what
They
are
called
Public
Defenders,
who
are
free
lawyers?
If
you
do
not
have
the
money
to
pay
a
lawyer,
if
you
have
an
offense
where
they
are
accusing
you
of
something
criminal
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
they
take
away
your
freedom
and
they
want
to
put
you
in
jail
So
many
years
ago.
F
I
believe
that
in
1954,
the
Supreme
Court
here
in
the
United
States
decided
a
case
called
vs,
which
says
that
all
people
who
are
accused
of
a
crime
have
the
right
to
a
free
lawyer.
That's
how
I
went
a
public
defender
for
many
years
working
with
people,
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
they
are
citizens
or
not
Yes.
If
they
are
accusing
you
of
a
criminal
case.
That
is
something
special
and
specific,
and
you
have
the
right
to
a
lawyer.
Now.
Immigration
law
is
something
different
right.
F
Yes,
It's
the
immigration
law,,
it's
a,
as
you
said,
Manuela,,
it's
a
civil
system
and
that's
what,
if
you're
here
without
papers.
That's,
a
violation
of
our
immigration
laws,,
which
are
civil
laws,,
so
to
be
here
in
the
country,
for
example,,
without
papers,
yes.
they
catch
you.
They
can't
put
you
in
jail
for
that,
because
that's
not
a
violation
of
our
criminal
laws.
That
is
a
law,
maybe
true
an
offense
against
our
civil
immigration
laws
and
remedy
it
or
what
they
do.
F
If
they
find
you
that
you
are
Here
without
papers
and
you
don't
have
a
defense,
they're
going
to
deport
you,
they're,
not
going
to
put
you
in
jail,,
but
they're
going
to
deport
you.
Although.
There
are
times
when
we
unfortunately
put
immigrants
in
jail,.
That's
something
else.
There
are
some
federal
violations
that
are
criminal.
F
Since
I
was
one
of
the
few
lawyers
who
spoke
Spanish
at
the
public,
defender,
I
had
more
and
more
clients
who
only
spoke
Spanish,
and
sometimes
they
were
not
citizens
of
the
United
States.
So
I
had
to
start
learning
about
the
immigration
consequences
of
a
criminal
case.
So.
If
you
are
found
guilty
If,
you
are
not
a
citizen
of
the
United
States
and
you
are
found
guilty
of
a
crime.
It
is
possible
that
this
conviction
has
consequences
in
your
immigration
case.
If
the
immigration
officers
catch
you
and
put
you
in
deportation,
proceedings.
F
Now,
the
law
in
the
United
States
has
changed
in
2010.
Something
else
from
the
Supreme
Court
called
Padilla
versus
Kentucky
said
that
lawyers
now
in
every
criminal
case.
If
you
have
a
client
who
is
not
a
citizen
of
the
United
States,
you
have
to
inform
them
about
the
immigration
consequences
of
that
conviction.
And
if
you
don't,
you
are
an
ineffective
lawyer.
I
think
that
is
the
word
that
that
a.
F
Yes,
if
you
don't
so
I
started
learning
it
when
I
was
in
public
defender
And.
So
when
they
hired
me
here
at
the
University
of
Colorado,
they
knew
when
they
gave
me
the
job
that
I
was
very
interested
at
the
intersection
of
criminal
law
and
immigration.
Law
and
I
was
writing
like
an
article
about
Witnesses
who
come
to
criminal
cases
who
are
non-citizens
and
the
consequences
for
them.
So
now
in
the
clinic,
she
has
to
be
a
teacher.
F
Here
I've
had
a
bit
more
time
to
really
do
a
lot
more
research
on
immigration
law
and
that,
and
also
the
students
who
are
studying
law
today
in
this
country
that
we
have
when
the
issue
of
immigration
is
something
that
we
are
always
talking
about
and
talking
about
and
discussing
in
this
country.
There
are
a
lot
of
young
people
who
they
come
to
study
law
that
they
want
to
be
part
of
that
fight
or
that
discussion.
So.
F
There's
a
lot
of
interest
in
immigration
law
and
I'm
very
happy
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
learn
more,
and
we
also
do
a
lot
of
things
that
are
totally
immigration,
that
aren't.
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
criminal
law,
right,.
There
are
also
many
cases
like
this
and
we
have
been
able
to
learn
and
help
more
people,,
having
more
variety
in
the
types
of
cases
that
we
can
do.
A
F
So
many
people
who
ask
me
Ok
if
I
have
a
citizen
child
who
turns
20,
he
or
she
can
ask
me
And.
That
is
a
question
that
is
good.
Yes,
but
then
the
next
part
is
very
complicated
or
could
be
complicated
And.
That
totally
has
to
do
with
the
specific
circumstances
of
that
person
Ah,.
But
there
are
things
that
I
would
like
all
people
or
more
people
to
have
access
to
legal
information.
That
is
free.
A
F
It's
like
that
there
are
things
there
is
a
way
to
do
that.
Yes,
it
is
a
little
difficult
to
navigate
it
by
yourself,
but
if
you
have
a
little
more
information
about
the
legal
process,
yes,
it
can
be
done
and
obviously,
and
how
difficult
it
is
for
immigrants
in
cases
like
that,
as
we
don't
have,
a
public
defender
to
immigrants
have
that
if
they
want
the
help
of
a
lawyer,
they
have
to
hire
one,
and
sometimes
it
is
super
expensive
to
do
that.
F
So
what
I
would
like
is
that
the
Federal
Government
would
have
free
lawyers
for
immigrants
But
many
times
they
don't,
but
things
like
that,
as
if
Can
my
son,
ask
me?
It's
a
question:
I,
always
have.
And,
that's
an
example.
I
think
there
are
millions
of
the
11
million
people
who
are
here
undocumented,.
There
are
many
who
surely
qualify
for
that
immigration
benefit.
D
F
A
F
B
All
documents
presenting
a
document
has
a
price
And.
If
the
cost
of
a
lawyer
is
added,,
it
can
be
much
more
expensive,
but
at
the
same
time
doing
things
wrong
also
has
a
price,
because
then
you
have
to
present
the
same
document
again
and
pay
the
same
payment
again
and
the
thing
was
delayed:
I,
don't
know,
I'm,
not
talking
about
personal
experience,,
but
an
experience
very
close
to
me
where
they
did
it
incorrectly
and
they
had
to
do
it.
Again,.
F
We
are
taking
cases
of
misdemeanors
So,
the
vast
majority
of
our
criminal
cases
that
we
have
where
the
client
is
not.
Citizens
are
similar
to
all
the
misdemeanors
that
are
for
the
entire
population,
And
that
has
more
than
anything,
is
driving
under
the
influence
of
alcohol
or
a
case
of
domestic
violence,.
Although
these
two
types
of
cases
and
both
types
of
cases
can
have
migratory
consequences,,
right?
F
So,
we
have
to
collaborate
with
the
public
defender
here
from
bolder
and
when
I
am
ready
to
take
new
cases
for
the
year,
I
talk
to
them
and
they
send
me
all
the
cases
and
they
are
pure
cases
of
people
who
are
not
citizens
of
the
United
States.
It
is
the
only
thing
that
I
give
them
I
ask
that
they
cannot
be
citizens
of
the
United
States
or
they
are
navigating
anything
something
to
do
with
immigration,
and
they
also
have
one
of
those
misdemeanor
cases
and.
F
Criminal
defense
lawyers
and
the
vast
majority
of
lawyers
in
this
country
are
Public
Defenders,
because
there
are
many
more
people
who
cannot
afford
a
lawyer
than
the
people
who
can
turn
off
So.
The
vast
majority
of
the
lawyers
in
the
criminal
case
had
no
idea
how
this
case
could
affect
their
client,
who
was
not
a
citizen
So.
The
case
of
José
Padilla,
for
example,
is
José.
Padilla
I
had
lived
in
the
United
States
for
more
than
40
years..
He
had
served
in
the
United
States
Army.
He
was
a
legal
permanent
resident
for
many
many
years..
F
F
And
the
police
pulled
him
over
and
the
police
said
he
had
over
three
tons
of
marijuana
in
his
back
So.
He
was
charged
with
driving
his
cargo
because
he
had
crossed
the
state
line.
He
was
in
the
state
of
kenchaqui,
went
to
another
place
So.
They
gave
him
federal
charges.
He
had
a
criminal
defense
lawyer
who
knew
he
was
a
resident
knew.
He
was
not
a
citizen
of
the
United
States
yet
and
told
him.
The
lawyer
told
poor
Mr.
padía.
F
That
was
totally
wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong.
He
pleaded
guilty
to
something
called
a
aggravated
felony
in
immigration,
and
if
that
criminal
defense
lawyer
had
searched
five
minutes
in
immigration
law
to
see,
he
would
have
known
that
that
conviction
that
thing
that
Mr.
Padía
was
pleading
guilty
was
going
to
have
consequences.
The
consequence
was
that
he
Mr.
Padía
automatically
became
a
person
who
has
to
be
automatically
deported.
It
does
not
matter
that
he
had
lived
here
for
43
years
that
he
was
a
resident
who
had
children
who
had
a
wife.
F
None
of
that
mattered,
because
that
in
immigration
laws,
immigration
laws
have
changed
a
lot
in
recent
years
to
have
more
like
strong
consequences
for
immigrants
So
now
Before.
There
was
a
way
that
the
judge
in
the
immigration
case
could
hear
all
these
things
about
Mr.
Pada
that
he
was
a
veteran
who
had
lived
here
many
years,
but
they
removed
that
in
the
immigration
law
many
years
ago,
So
now
There
are
things
If.
You
plead
guilty
to
that
thing.
You
are
eligible
for
automatic
deportation.
F
The
other
thing
is
that
if
immigration
caught
you
for
some
convictions,
you
don't
have
the
right
to
pay
a
bond
to
get
out.
You
have
to
stay
in
immigration
jail
while
the
lawyers
are
trying
to
get
your
case
out.
So
those
were.
That
was
a
very
good
case
to
attract
the
Supreme
Court,
because
mr.
padía
obviously
had
a
lot
of
important
things
on
him
and
his
whole
life
here
in
the
United
States
And,
he
had
a
lawyer
who
did
it
gave
him
totally
wrong
legal
judgment.
F
So
this
consequence
happened
to
him
So.
Now
it
's
the
Supreme
Court
saw
that
and
said
oops.
These
immigration
consequences.
People
have
the
right
to
have
the
judgment
of
a
lawyer
that
is
correct
and
complete,
and
now
that
immigration
law
and
criminal
law
are
totally
intertwined,
just
as
they
say
in
Spanish
I
love
that
word
intertwined
criminal,
defense
attorney
Now.
F
You
have
to
know
and
I
tell
you
I
work
a
lot
with
many
Public
Defenders
and
they
were
like
because
immigration
law
is
quite
complicated
and
they
are
saying
I
am
not
an
immigration
lawyer
and
it
is
true,
I
know.
But
if
you
have
clients
who
are
not
citizens,
those
clients
have
the
right
to
know
So
you
have.
If
you
don't
know
it,
you
have
to
look
it
up
right
and
now
a
good
lawyer,
different
offices,
for
example,
the
system
here
in
Colorado.
F
A
F
A
F
G
Come
from
Honduras
I
was
already
19
years
old
and
I
didn't
have
the
time
to
go
to
high
school
because
of
my
age,
Suddenly
I
looked
at
a
flyer
where
it
said:
I
finished,
High,
School
and
in
big
Spanish
letters.
I
said
it
will
be
possible.
I
am
very
proud
because
she
did
fight
to
get
her
diploma.
This
process
I
think
I
would
not
have
finished
it
without
the
help
of
my
mother
and
my
sister,
education
is
very
important
and
I
am
making
a
better
future
for
my
son.
A
And
well,
thank
you
for
your
continuous
tuning
in
We
are
still
here
with
Violeta,
who
is
with
us
from
the
University
of
Colorado
bolders,
and
how
We
mentioned
before
the
break
that
the
city
of
Bolder
and
the
University
of
Colorado
are
plotting,
something
to
be
able
to
help
the
community
with
the
immigration
issue.
Tell
us
a
little
about
it.
Violeta
Yes
of.
F
F
Very
long
here
in
Boulder
city
manager
to
talk
about
a
little
more
about
how
we
could
do
that.
I
have
been
saying
for
years
that
I
always
I'm
meeting
with
people
about
their
immigration
case
and
I,
say
the
same
things
to
all
the
different
people
and
it's
very
inefficient
and
I
told
him.
It
would
be
nice
to
maybe
have
a
way
to
invite
the
community
to
talk
about
some
topics
that
I'm
always
talking
about
just
to
share
that
immigration
for
more
people.
F
At
the
same
time-
and
you
also
know
we
are
here
in
the
State
of
Colorado,
where
governor
paules
affirmed
legislation
that
says
that
all
immigrants
have
the
right
to
a
lawyer
in
their
case.
That
really
is
what
it
is
good
to
say:
But.
Then
you
have
to
put
in
millions
and
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
to
have
that
resource
But.
There
are
ways
in
which
individual
cities
can
be
more
supportive
of
their
immigrant
community
And.
F
That
is,
for
example,
giving
them
access
to
legal
information
that
is
free
for
more
people
like
Nuria
and
I
started
talking
about
how
the
city
could
help
with
that
And.
Then
we
started
talking
about
some
talks
that
maybe
I
could
give.
That
would
be
free
for
the
immigrant
community
to
talk
about
legal
issues
like
asylum
or
that
to
ask
for
your
son.
There
are
a
lot
of
times.
People
have
questions
like
How.
B
D
B
B
B
B
B
A
F
Of
course
well,
people
can
come
if
they
are
interested
in
the
topic
we
are
talking
about.
We
will
be
talking
this
first
time
on
July
29,
precisely
about
how
you
can
change
your
status.
If
you
have
a
true
relationship
that
who
is
a
citizen
or
a
resident
of
the
United
States,
so
it
is
going
to
be
very
general
information
and
we
are
not
going
to
be
talking
about
the
individual
cases
of
people
But.
F
A
F
F
There
is
an
organization
called
the
Alianza
Norco.
Who
is
there?
Who
has
I
love
all
the
people
who
work
there
at
Alianza
Norco
and
the
executive
director
is
Patricia
Meler
and
she
contacted
me
two
years
ago
and
she
told
me:
look
Violeta
I
want
to
convince
How.
Do
you
say
City
in
Spanish
to
the
councilor
councilor
to
the
councilor
here
that
they
give
us
funds
to
have
a
lawyer
here
in
Alianza
norka,
because
not
enough
funds
and
I
want
to
convince
them
and
I?
F
Remember
that
I
told
them
Oh,,
you
will
never
be
able
to
convince
them,
Patricia,
I'm,
so
sorry,
but
so
Patricio
didn't
want
to,.
She
fought
and
fought
together
with
her
with
her
team
there
in
Alianza,
Norco
and
with
her
community,
and
they
testified
in
front
of
the
councilwoman
councilwoman
councilwoman
Thank
you
in
front
of
them
and
I
also
witnessed
in
front
of
them
talking
about
the
importance,
because.
F
Advice,
So,
and
the
question
is
more
than
anything
is
because
we
are
going
to
use
our
funds
that
are
local,
that
come
from
those
of
the
taxa
right
from
the
people
who
live
here
to
help
people
who
are
here
without
permission,
If.
They
are
here
undocumented,.
Why
are
we
going
to
do
that,?
That
really
is
the
question
that
everyone
has
and
you
have
to
confront,
it,,
and
the
answer
is
that
there
are
thousands
and
not
millions
of
people
who
are
here
in
Colorado
and
in
the
rest
of
the
States.
F
States
that
do
not
have
papers,
but
it
is
possible
that
they
do
have
immigration
benefits
in
any
way
and
if
they
do
not
have
access
to
a
lawyer
that
hurts
them
Well,
it
hurts
them,
but
it
also
hurts
the
community
because
they
cannot
really
participate
in
a
way.
Maybe
they
want
to
participate
without
papers
right
if.
A
F
Have
their
papers
sometimes
there
are
many
reasons,
because
it
is
easier
better
for
the
immigrants
and
better
for
the
community,
and
that
was
really
what
I
wanted
to
say,
and
there
are
also
people
who
might
sometimes
they
put
you
in
deportation
proceedings.
They
have
the
right
to
a
lawyer
to
have
some
kind
of
defense.
It's
horrible
to
see.
F
One
of
the
worst
things
I
've
ever
seen,
is
to
be
in
immigration
court
and
see
a
very
well
paid
lawyer
for
the
government
of
the
United
States,
a
judge
also
very
well
paid
by
the
United
States
and
an
immigrant
there
alone
with
no
one
dealing
with
him,
and
he
is
not
a
lawyer.
Sometimes
I
do
not
speak
English
and
it
is
super
difficult
for
them
to
defend.
It
is
unfair
and
it
is
relaxing
I
like
it
Not
at
all,,
so
the
municipalities
can
help
the
immigrants
who
are
their
residents
to
have
access,.
B
B
B
F
Of
course,
one
of
the
things
we
work
very
closely
with
students
and
young
people
who
have
deferred
action,
daca,
And
This,
has
been
something
that
has
been
in
the
news
for
many
years,
and
that
is
an
example,.
It
is
what
is
happening
with
DACA
and
we
also
work
a
lot
with
our
students
in
SEE
YOU,
who
are
undocumented,.
Some
have
DACA,.
Some
do
not
have
danga,.
F
It
is
super
important.
for
I,
believe
for
the
city
to
support
information
and
access
to
that
information
for
its
resident
community.
That
is
not
only
to
do
with
your
legal
case,
but
with
the
big
with
the
big
like
the
Big
picture
of
immigration,
and
what
are
the
things
that
society
is
doing
with
programs
like
daca
and
How?
F
Can
we
better
organize
and
communicate
about
how
we
are
going
to
respond,
because
we
have
been
working
hard
on
that
question
is
what
are
we
going
to
do
when
you
have
students
who
are
here
on
our
campus
lose
daca
What?
Are
we
going
to
do
and
That
for
me
is
important
that
the
city
is
thinking
about
these
things?
F
Also,
what
do
we
do
when
I
believe
that
there
are
almost
17,000
people
in
the
State
of
Colorado
have
daca
and
If
they
lose
if
the
Supreme
Court
ends
daca
And
that
Maybe
the
year
will
pass
that
thousands
and
millions
are
coming.
If
we
are
talking
about
it,
well,
less
than
a
million,
but
thousands
and
thousands
of
people
are
going
to
lose
their
work
permits
and
that.
A
D
F
H
F
Going
to
do,
they
are
going
to
kick
them
out
your
jobs.
That
is
one
thing,
is
a
very
difficult
and
very
important
question
and
I
feel
that
this
is
Those
are
the
conversations
and
communications
that
we
have
to
have
very
clearly
with
the
city
with
the
university
with
everyone
who
is
involved
in
this.
B
To
what's
to
come,,
but
it
also
gives
someone
else,
a
more
true
motivation
to
say:
well,,
the
more
to
become
citizens.
First.
You
have
to
be
residents,,
right?
So,
let's
be
residents
to
be
citizens,
To,
be
able
to
exercise
that
voting
power
that
we
only
have
with
citizenship
and
thus
be
able
to
help
our
entire
community
So.
All
of.
A
C
C
I
B
And
well
with
that,
we
end
with
this
episode
of
we
are
Boulder
a
podcast
for
the
city,
about
the
city,
and,
as
always,
we
want
to
remind
you
to
subscribe
to
this
podcast
that
you
rate
us
that
you
make
comments.
We
want
to
know
if
the
topics
we
are
talking
about
are
of
interest
to
you.
If
there
is
something
that
someone
thinks
they
should
not
talk
about
it
in
this
podcast,
what
we
want
to
do,
we
will
look
for
it
or
if
you
have
suggestions
of
people
to
whom
we
can
interview,
you
are
always
welcome.
B
A
To
see
this,
and
this
podcast
is
available
on
our
YouTube
channel
and
also
where
You
normally
listen
to
podcast
platforms,
but
this
one.
We
wanted
to
remind
you
about
this
month's
event,
which
is
for
July
29,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
talk
about
immigrants.
So.
If
you
have
questions
that,
you
would
like
to
know
the
answers
about
regarding
immigration.
Come
to
this
event,
that
is
going
to
be,
as
I
told
you
on
July
29
in
the
municipal
building
of
the
city
of
Voltern,
where
the
normally
exact
council.