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Veronica
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cob:,
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meeting
has
been
called
to
conduct
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of
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city
of
boulder
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this
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cob:,
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video
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except
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presiding
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who
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cob:
I,
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son,
cob:,
aside
from
seeking
assistance
from
myself
for
technical
help,,
the
city
reserves
the
right
to
disable
the
individuals
access
to
the
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a.
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able
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meeting..
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Claudia
hanson,
thiem
(she/her):
and
my
family,
that
is
my
spouse,
and
I
and
our
2
elementary
school
aged
kids,
walk,
bike
and
bus
for
as
many
of
our
trips
around
older,
as
possible..
I'm
here
tonight
to
share
some
observations
about
the
recent
work
on
north
broadway,
between
violet
and
the
hill..
I
was
concerned
about
bike
accommodations
when
plans
for
this
corridor
were
finalized
in
2,019,.
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Claudia
hanson
thiem
(she/her):,
when
this
bike
lane
works
as
designed,,
it
has
bikes
traveling
in
a
door
zone
several
inches
above
the
adjacent
traffic
lane..
So
if
a
driver
opens
a
door
or
pulls
out
of
a
parking
spot
unexpectedly,,
you
not
only
have
to
swerve
into
traffic,,
but
you
have
to
negotiate
a
drop
off.
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Claudia
hanson
thiem
(she/her):,
because
how
do
you
do
that
right??
How
do
you
plow
snow
on
a
narrow
strip
of
pavement
that
doubles?
This
parking.,
there's
snow,
there,
and
snow
also
seems
to
push
the
parked
cars
even
further
away
from
the
actual
curb..
So
the
result
is
that
that
by
clean
has
been
completely
impossible
for
weeks.
after
a
recent
snowstorms.
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Claudia
hanson,
thiem
(she/her):,
we
do
have
a
back
way
on
thirteenth
street,,
but
that
is
about
to
be
closed
for
library,
construction,
and
after
that,
it's
my
guess.
We're
going
to
be
riding
on
the
sidewalk
on
broadway..
I
honestly
find
that
embarrassing
that
we're
building
bike
infrastructure
like
this
in
boulder
colorado
in
year,
2,023.
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Lynn,
segal:
skyscrapers.,
lynn,
segal:,
then
then
that's
what
they
can
be,
and
then
you
can
have
no
cars,
and
you
can..
You
can
have
a
life
like
that.,
but
guess
what
people
use
cars
and
like
north
roll,,
there's
the
perfect
example.
it
should..
In
my
opinion,
it
should
never
been
developed
like
that.
Like
gun
barrel,,
you
know
a
flagpole
annexation,
essentially
where
there's
all
this
development.-
and
now,
there's
there's
problems
in
the
corridor
up
there.
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Rosie
fivian
aia:
hi,
there!.
Can
you
hear
me.
rosie
fivian
aia:
yes,
perfect.,
hi,
yeah.?
I
just
wanted
to
echo
and
say
that
I
agree
with
what
claudia
and
mike
mills
and
others
have
said
about
the
safety
of
that
bike.
Lane..
I
just
got
a
new
e
bike
in
the
summer.,
I'm
very
excited.,
I'm
learning
all
the
bike.
Paths.
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Rosie
fivian
aia:,
pretty
scary.,
I
I
saw
people
talking
about
it
when
it
first
got
built,
and
then
I
was
up
there
for
an
event
in
a
car
actually
in
the
winter,
and
almost
drove
into
the
right
turn
lane.
With
my
car,
like
it's
so
poorly
marked.,
I
think
I'd
for
sure
be
riding
on
the
sidewalk
up.
There.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
and
that
point
we
were
referred
to
tab
to
bring
forward
2
0f.
These
2
main
questions
to
you,
tonight.,
and
we
have
been
working
through
our
site
review
with
the
city
of
boulder.,
and
so
we
are
currently
on
our
fourth
submittal
in
our
site
review..
So
this
is
a
great
time
to
come
to
you
as
we're
really
honing
in
on.
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Amy
mccann,
sar+:
there's
bike
facilities
on
site
that
provide
both
short
term
and
long
term
bike
facilities..
We
have
short
term
bike,
parking.,
that's
located
near
the
building
entries,
and
we
also
have
long
term
bike
shelters
that
are
located
within
some
of
the
courtyards,
and
then
also
additional
bike
parking
interior
to
the
building.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
and
basket
options
and
approximately
10
bikes
and
then
marketing
material
evaluation
tools
to
increase
the
awareness
and
effectiveness,,
as
well
as
lots
of
educational
opportunities
and
surveys,,
and
such
to
encourage
people
and
students
to
think
about
different
ways
to
get
around
town
versus
a
single
occupant.
Vehicle..
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:
here
for
feedback
tonight,,
but
we've
actually
moved
that
path
off
boulder,
creek
to
separate
bikes
and
peds,
similar
to
what
you
see
at
the
like,
like
near
the
library
in
the
civic
center..
So
we
think
on
our
site
we're
improving
the
multimodal
infrastructure,.
So
it's
very
clear
what
it
is,
and
it's
separated
from.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):,
what
larger
volumes
of
bicycle
and
pedestrian
traffic
might
do,
pushing
up
to
between
the
flower
trial
and
the
safe
way,
which
may
or
may
not
be
public
right
away
and
and
hit
straight
to
see
that
get
that
gets
shut
down.,
but
I
know
right
now..
If
I'm
going
through
there,,
I
mean,
I
have
to
like.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab,
(he/him):
yeah
again,,
like
part
of
me,
is
like,
oh,.
Maybe
I
should
get
off
the
bike,
and
there's
like
this
big
plastic
flower.
You
have
to
go
around,
and
there's
people
with
with,,
you
know,
their
eating
table,.
So
I
just
would
want
to
really
it
as
to
be
careful
with
what
we're
we're
pushing
there.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):.
What
was
the
light
of
a
chair,
here.
okay,
$75
per
year.,
alternative
transportation
fund
for
residents
that
do
not
bring
it
the
the
vehicle??
Can
we
double
that?
we
triple
that??
What's
how
hard
is
that
to
make
that
look,
really
sweet
and
juicy
for
for
the
for
the
residents.
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Chris
mcgranahan
(lsc):
does
not
bring
a
car
to
the
site
and
purchase
the
parking
space..
They
would
be
eligible
for
this
fund.,
so
they
so
anybody
who
doesn't
bring
a
vehicle
would
be
eligible
for
the
funds,,
so,
theoretically,
that
some
of
the
residents
will
be
paying
for
parking,
and
some
of
the
residents
could
be
eligible
for
this
fund.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
parking
reduction
on
site,,
so
that
in
itself
will
reduce
the
volume
of
cars.
so
we're..
We're
then
complementing
it
with
trying,
you
know,
charging
for
parking,
and
then
providing
option
many
options
for
the
people
that
don't
have
a
car
there.
so
we're,
assuming
that
there
won't
be
a
lot
of
as
many
cars.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab,
(he/him):,
providing,
bike,
parking,,
basically
meeting
or
exceeding
requirement
in
a
short,
long
term
bike
parking
requirements
on
site..
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
think
about
having..
You
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
more,
you
bikes,
probably,
than
there
was
even
a
couple
of
years
ago
in
a
development
like
this,
and
a
lot
more
large
format.
Cargo
bikes.
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Ryan
schuchard,,
tab,
(he/him):
and
then,
and
or
I
guess
it's
sort
of-
this
is
getting
way,
and
the
fine
tuning..
But
if
that's,
if,
if
people
decide
not
to
do
that,
it,
can
they
bring
it
back
in
the
building
somehow.?
Is
that
not
too
hard
like,?
You
know,
heavier
like
maybe
a
£50
at
least
the
bike.
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Rebecca
davies,
tab:
tdm
plans
when
we
require
developments
to
have
so
much
parking.
to
begin
with,.
You
know
it's
kind
of
these.
Things
are
working
in
opposition
to
each
other..
So
if
we
didn't
require
so
much
parking.,
that
would
be
one
of
the
best
things
we
could
do
to
encourage
alternative
modes
of
transportation..
So
I
hope
that
in
the
future.
you
know
we're
moving
in
that
direction.
Instead
of
kind
of
trying
to
do
this,.
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Triny
willerton,
tab:,
sorry
that
yeah,,
we
are
gonna,
see
an
increase
number..
I
mean,
that's
the
goal
right
of
cyclists
and
pedestrians,
and
we
just
have
to
think
ahead,,
and
I
know
that
this
is
outside
of
the
scope.
I'm,
perfectly
fine,
with
the
with
the
paths
that
you
guys
are
suggesting,
by
the
way.,
but
but
yeah,
keep
that
in
mind
because.
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valerie
watson,,
cob:
transportation,
planning
manager..
We
are
here
tonight
to
provide
an
update
on
our
progress
in
developing
a
comprehensive
set
of
curbside
management
policies
and
practices
for
the
city
of
boulder,,
and
since
we
last
updated
you
in
july,
the
team
has
completed
the
flexible
loading
zone,
pilots
and
assembled
the
components
of
what
will
make
up
the
final
deliverable
for
this
effort..
The
curbside
management
implementation,
guidebook.
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Valerie
watson,
cob:
ultimately,.
When
we
return
to
tab
the
summer,,
we
will
be
asking
you
to
advise
the
city
manager
to
use
the
guidebook
to
manage
curbside
uses
in
the
public
right
of
way,.
And
this
is
because,
procedurally,
under
the
boulder
revised
code,,
the
authority
to
designate
traffic
operations
and
parking.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
for
example.
chris
hagelin,
cob:
curbside
management
can
be
used
to
contribute
to
improving
safety
by
by
providing
safe,
dedicated
transportation
network
companies
like
uber
and
lyft,
pick
up
and
drop
off
zones..
It
can
help
with
reducing
travel,,
delay,
and
related
emissions
caused
by
double
parking.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
we
are
also
working
on
developing
a
number
of
different
standard
operating
procedures
to
streamline
the
city's
government
process.
for
how
we
proactively
and
reactively,
manage
the
curve.
and
finally,
we're
contributing
to
economic
vitality
by
meeting
the
demands
of
commerce
and
how
it's
really
changed
over
the
last
few
years,,
especially
with
covid,
for
example,
having
the
the
15
min.
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Carly
sieff,
f&p:
great
thanks,
chris.,
so
we
performed
a
comprehensive,
existing
conditions.
analysis,
which
consisted
of
both
quantitative
and
qualitative
data..
So
we
worked
with
the
vendor
cord
in
order
to
inventory
all
of
the
curb
uses
that
exist
today
in
the
3
managed
districts..
So
we
looked
at
what
is
that
curve
use??
We
also
looked
at
utilization
for
parking
during
peak
times
to
understand
the
blocks
that
have
significant
on
street
parking..
How
well
utilized
are
they?.
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Carly
sieff,
f&p:.
We
also
supplemented
that
quantitative
day
with
qualitative
observations
to
pick
up
on
trends
that
chris
mentioned,
like
double
parking
or
illegally
parked
vehicles..
Then
we
did
a
thorough
review
of
the
boulder
revised
code
in
order
to
understand
what
our
current
policies
and
regulations
around
the
curve
today,,
which
provided
a
a
good
snapshot
in
time
for
us
to
make
recommendations
to
update
certain
ordinances,
or
add
ordinances
where
there
aren't
any
related
to
the
curve.
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Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
the
the
snapshot
from
the
core
data
shows
how
the
curve
is
used
today..
So
you
can
see
the
light.
Blue
is
on
street
parking.
A
significant
amount.
majority
of
the
curb
use
in
the
3
managed
districts
is
dedicated
to
parking..
After
that
activated
uses,
such
as
parklets
or
bytecraft.
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Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
we
supplemented
this
data
by
hearing
from
the
community..
How
do
you
experience
the
curve??
How
would
you
like
to
use
the
curve,
but
aren't
able
to
do
to,,
maybe
a
lack
of
education,
or
because
of
the
regulations.?
So
we
reached
a
broad
cross
section
of
the
community
through
online
and
in
person
engagement.,
so
we
attended
the
farmers
market.
we
tabled
at
boulder
junction,
at
pearl,
street,
mall,
and
went
to
the
where
the
community
was
to
understand..
How
do
they
currently
use
the
curve,
and
how
would
they
like
to
use
the
curve?
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Carly
sieff,
f&p:.
We
also
had
a
stakeholder
group
called
access
allies,
that
has
been
a
guide
throughout
the
process
to
to
understand
kind
of
the
goals
of
curbside
management,,
as
it
relates
to
goals
from
the
tmp.
and
sustainability
goals,
and
then
had
had
focused
conversations
with
groups
like
transportation
network
companies,
delivery
vehicles
to
understand
from
their
perspective,
how
the
curb
has
its
challenges,,
how
they
use
the
curb
and
other
communities..
So
to
get
those
peer
examples
and
to
kind
of
fill
in
the
gaps
of
of
the
quantitative
data.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
this
is
just
one
snapshot.
from
what
we
heard
an
outreach..
This
is
a
response
to
the
online
survey,,
combined
with
the
in-person
feedback.
On
what
kind
of
curb
uses
would
you
like
to
see?
more
of??
You
can
see
that
the
top.
few
uses
all
relate
to
activation
higher
turnover
of
spaces.,
so
number
one
is
more
bike
and
scooter
parking,
tied
to
micro,
mobility
goals
for
the
city,
and
then
the
second
one
is
short
term
curbside
pick
up..
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
setting
the
stage
is
the
curb
menu..
What
what
is
on
the
curve
today,
and
what
are
we
recommending
for
consideration
for
curb
uses
in
the
future??
So
in
the
white
on
the
left,
you
can
see
all
of
of
the
existing
curve
pieces
that
you're
familiar
with.,
and
then
we
have
3
new
proposed
uses.
s0
0ne
is
a
flexible
loading
zone
that
I'll
talk
in
more
detail
in
our
pilot
project
slide..
The
next
one
is
a
public
seeding
parklet..
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:.
So
after
we
we
gonna,
develop
the
current
menu,.
We
created
a
typology.,
so
we
categorize
every
block
in
the
city
of
boulder
int0
0ne
of
5
different
categories..
This
is
based
off
of
street
classification
and
land
use.
so,,
combining
these
2
factors,.
We
came
up
with
different
types,,
which
then
provided
a
framework
for
how
the
curve
should
be
prioritized
in
these
different
types.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:.
We
also
categorized
allies
in
2
different
types.,
so
I
won't
walk
through
each
one.,
but
just
to
give
an
example.
commercial
centers
exist
on
the
higher
density
streets,
where
we
want
to
see
a
higher
turnover
of
the
curve.
We
see
higher
demand
for
uses
of
the
curve
by
people
such
as
uber
lift,,
pick
up
and
drop
off.
This
public
seating,
parklets
versus
on
the
other
side
of
the
spectrum.
neighborhood
avenues
are
streets
with
single
family
homes,,
lower
density,
residential,,
where
vehicle
storage
is
is
going
to
be
prioritized.
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
and
this
provide
an
important
framework
to
understand
how
the
different
curb
uses
are.
the
different
types
interact
with
each
other,
and
we'll
want
to
understand
pressures
that
exist
on
one
block.
What
that
means
for
the
neighboring
blocks.
so,,
not
looking
at
each
block
and
isolation,,
but
each
man
is
district
or
each
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:.
So
when
we
combine
the
typology
with
the
curve
menu,,
we
came
up
with
this
prioritization
framework,,
so
we
categorize
each
of
the
curve
types
into
access
for
people,,
access
for
commerce,,
activation,
place,
making
and
vehicle
storage,
and
then
based
off
of
the
types
we
prioritized
and
created
a
hierarchy
for
these
different
categories
of
the
curve..
So
in
the
example
I
used
before
in
commercial
center,
priorities,
access
for
people,
uses
like
bicycle
parking,
passenger
loading
zones.
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p::
how
long
should
each
curve
use
be?
what
is,?
What
curb
uses
should
be
prioritized
at
the
prioritize,
at
the
ends
of
blocks
versus
the
center
of
blocks,,
and
this
also
showed
how
the
different
curve
types
will
interact
with
each
other..
So
this
is
one
example
of
a
typical
area
where
we
see
commercial,
centers
adjacent
to
residential
areas..
This
is
one
snapshot.,
so
we
really
wanted
to
understand
when
we
prioritized
activation
for
people
as
well
as
access
for
commerce
on
these
commercial
center
blocks..
What
are
the
implications.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
you
can
see
some
examples
on
on
the
activated
alley
as
well
as
this
commercial
center..
We
have
a
lot
of
spaces
dedicated
to
parklets,
to
goods
loading
at
the
ends
of
blocks..
The
ratios
are
are
more
towards
activation,
and
access
for
people
rather
than
the
blue
palette
of
vehicle
storage.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
we're
not
providing,
you
know,
specific
goals.
as
to
the
rati0
0f,
each
of
the
curb
uses,,
as
you
saw
in
that
pie,
chart
in
the
existing
conditions,,
but
rather
want
to
to
understand
how
we're
going
to
see
different
changes
in
different
curb
uses
over
time
as
we
implement
this
guidebook..
So
we
want
to
see
in
line
with
community
feedback
in
line
with
the
goals
from
the
transmission
master
plan,,
as
well
as
that,
the
sustainability
goes
for
the
city,,
a
greater
use
of
curbs
for
access
for
people..
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
travel
preferences,
creating
an
increase
of
of
delivery
of
take
out
overlift
tncs:.
We
want
these
high
turnover
spaces
that
really
provide
a
productive
use
of
the
curve
activation
place,,
making
a
place
for
people
to
to
stay
and
create
this
sense
of
place,,
especially
in
our
managed
districts.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
and
then
we're
seeing
a
a
decrease
in
vehicle
storage..
The
trade
offs
of
of
increasing
access
for
people,
commerce
and
place
making
is
prioritizing
garages
and
off
street
parking
for
vehicle
storage
and
manage
t0
6
utilization..
Ever
it
showed
that
there's
parking
availability
in
these
off
street
spaces
so
really
wanting
to
use
the
curb,
as
as
an
opportunity
to
build
a
sense
of
place.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
so
more
on
the
flexible
loading
zone
that
I
mentioned,
so
based
off
of
the
feedback
from
the
the
public
that
we
heard,,
as
well
as
in
our
focus
groups.
and
then
a
peer
review..
We
did.
flexible
loading
zones,
appeared
as
the
top
priority
to
test
out
a
new
curve.
use
to
see
how
it
performed
at
with
the
potential
for
a
longer
term
implementation..
So
we
tested
out
flexible
loading
zones
that
you
might
have
seen
in
university
hail
as
well
as
downtown..
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
this
could
be
uber,
lift,,
pickup,
drop,
off,,
rob,,
hug,,
pick
up,
drop
off
private
vehicle,,
pick,
up,
drop
off
so
short
term
use
for
you
to
go
running
and
and
pick
up
your
take
out
dinner..
So
a
lot
of
these
travel
preferences
and
just
interaction
with
businesses
that
we
saw
an
increase
during
covid
and
and
a
sustained
increase,,
even
after
kind
of
in
the
2021
2022
years..
So
the
goal
was
to
increase
safety,
to
increase
efficiency
and
productivity
of
the
curve.
T
And
better
match
supply,
with
the
demand
that
we're
seeing
for
the
curve.,
so
we're
able
to
work
with
uber
and
lift
and,
on
the
back
end,
provide
ge
offenses..
So
when
you
request
to
ride,
you're
directed
specifically
to
these
spaces,
and
the
drivers
on
the
other
end
are
also
directed
to
these
designated
flexible
learning.
Zones.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
evaluating
the
pilots..
We
have
a
few
takeaway,,
so
we'll
get
t0
0n
the
next
side.,
but
we're
looking
at
both
quantitative
and
qualitative
data
to
understand
how
we're
seeing
changes
and
trends
in
the
in
the
performance,
measures
that
are
important
to
us
and
the
goals.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
s0
0n,
the
next
side,,
just
some
preliminary
findings..
So
far,
this
has
been
a
really
successful
pilot..
So
we've
seen
that
potentially
expanding
that
10
min
time
to
a
little
bit
longer
would
better
align
with
the
needs
of
these
users
of
the
curb..
But
we
are
seeing
that
there's
a
really
great
kind
of
complement
between
demand
for
the
curve
by
tmc's
and
demand
for
the
curve
by
delivery.
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
these
are
a
lot
of
different
recommendations
for
the
curve..
What
are
going
to
be
the
triggers
that
cause
us
to
make
these
changes.
so
there's
4,
main
catalysts,
development,
capital,
projects,,
proactive
changes
and
reactive
changes.,
so
I'll
walk
through
each
of
these
separately.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
s0
0n
the
development
side.
We're
making
recommendations
that
in
to
kind
of
integrate
into
the
development
application,
process,
that
the
developer
make
recommendations
as
to
how
demand
for
the
curb
will
change
with
their
new
development
or
with
the
redevelopment,,
and
this
proposal
will
include
the
curbside
changes
in
association
with
their
project.
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
the
second
tiles
for
change
is
a
capital
project.,
so
a
major
corridor
project
that
is
already
studying
feasibility
of
changing
that
corridor..
It's
already
looking
at
moving
curb
and
gutter.
there's
large
investment,
both
in
the
the
study,,
the
plan,,
the
design
and
the
implementation
and
construction
of
changes
that
corridor..
So
there
are
a
lot
of
cost
efficiencies
of
including
curbside
management
as
a
part
of
the
scope
for
corridor
studies.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
proactive,
changes.
so,
by
observing
these
4
different
performance
measures,.
We
can
understand
what
curve
uses
rise
to
the
top,
where
there's
a
need
to
evaluate
making
changes
to
the
curve..
So
the
first
is
a
high
number
of
crashes
that
are
caused,
or
potentially
caused
by
curb
behaviors.
so,.
Looking
at
curbs
where
there's
more
than
3
crashes
over
3
years,,
those
will
rise
to
the
top.
similarly,.
Looking
at
community
member
complaints.
T
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
currently
a
city
process.,
isn't
necessarily
consistent
in
responding
to
these
requests,
and
the
process
isn't
transparent..
So
we
created
flow
charts
for
each
curb
use
to
provide
guidance
for
city
staff,
to
have
a
transparent
and
standardized
process.
That's
quantitative,,
but
also
incorporates
an
element
of
subjectivity..
So
you
can
see
the
example
here
is
for
an
accessible
parking
space
of
a
business;
for
to
request
that
they
would
follow
this
flow
chart
in
order
to
kind
of
inform
their
response
to
that
business.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:,
so
we
have
cut
sheets
that
provide
design
guidance
for
each
of
the
curb
uses..
So
this
is
an
example
for
flexible
loading
zones..
It
includes
things
like
the
design
considerations..
How
long
should
that
curb
space
be??
Does
there
need
to
be
concrete
buffer
or
reflective
devices,,
such
as
with
a
an
outdoor,
dining
parklet,?
We
really
want
to
understand
the
costs..
T
T
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
and
then,
lastly,
an
evaluation
plan..
So
this
is
important
to
guide
the
city,
and
what
data
to
collect,.
What's
the
methodology
for
collecting
that
data
in
a
consistent
way,
and
how
they??
How
can
you
continue
to
monitor
their
success
of
this
plan,
so
similar
to
the
evaluation
of
pilot
projects
as
changes
to
the
curves
are
made,
or
will
be
important,
to
monitor
and
evaluate,
to
ensure
that
they're,
a
reducing
number
of
crashes.
that
and
utilization
is,
is
aligned
with
goals,
and
that's
we're
seeing
an
increase
of
activation,
and.
T
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
communication
to
the
public
will
be
important
as
changes
to
the
curve
are
made,
being
clear
and
making
sure
that
material
and
that
signage
information
is
really
intuitive
to
users.,
and
this
there's
been
important
takeaways
and
our
observations
and
our
community
outreach
to
really
make
sure
that
that
changes
are
communicated
clearly,
and
that
uses
the
curve.
Our
intuitive.
T
Carly
sieff,
f&p:
and
then,
lastly,,
making
sure
that
this
plan
isn't
static,.
The
curve
is
changing
very
quickly,
and
especially
as
it
relates
to
technology..
So
we've
documented
the
kind
of
best
practice
of
the
curve
today,
as
well
as
ways
to
ensure
that
that
this
can
be
a
living
and
dynamic
document,,
as
in
a
technology
and
use
of
the
curve
continues
to
evolve
and
looking
t0
0ur
pure
communities,
to
incorporate
best
practices.
S
S
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
we'll
go
back
based
on
that
input
and
and
make
refinements
t0
0ur
plan,,
which
you
know..
Ultimately,
the
deliverable
is
the
curbside
management
implementation,
guidebook
that
will
be
a
document
to
help
guide
staff
work
in
the
future..
We
will
return
to
tab
on
june
twelfth..
This
is
where
we
will
be
asking
tab.
S
S
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
perhaps
in
a
june
fifteenth
packet.,
so
that's
rather
quick
turnaround.,
but
we're
gonna
see
what
we
can
do
with
that.
and
then
the
rest
of
this
year,.
You
know
we'll
be
looking
at
making
any
of
the
changes.
T0
0rdinances
that
are
necessary,
based
on
the
changes,
we're
we're
making
it.
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O
O
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
alright,
thank
you,
brian.
chris
hagelin,
cob:.
Now
one
thing
I'll
just
add
real
quick..
You
know
one
of
the
things
in
our
stakeholder
meetings,
you
know,
with
ups,
for
example,.
They
certainly
have
a
desire
to
shift
towards
electric
vehicles
and
even
smaller
electric
vehicles..
So
you
know,,
one
of
the
things
we've
been
looking
at
is:
would
there
be
a
need
for
short
term
electric
charging,,
you
know,
for
those
types
of
of
electric
vehicles.,
so
we
are.
we
are.
S
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S
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Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
looks
good?
nicole
speer:
thank
you.,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
some
time
tonight
to
share
these
updates
from
dr.
cog
before
I
get
started..
I
just
want
to
thank
jean
samson
for
putting
these
slides
together,
and
to
jean
and
natalie
and
all
of
you
on
tab
for
getting
me
up
to
speed
on
regional
transportation
issues
over
the
past
year..
I
really
appreciate
it.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Nicole
speer:
we're
planning
to
meet
almost
90%
of
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
targets
by
changing
how
we
spend
transportation
dollars.
so,,
rather
than
spending
billions
of
dollars
on
highway.
Expansions,
we'll
be
investing
instead
in
building
the
multimodal
infrastructure
that
we
need
for
more
transit.
R
R
Nicole
speer:,
adding
900
milliondollars
for
multimodal
projects
and
adding
investments
in
pedestrian
and
bicycle
safety,
transit,
complete
streets
and
s0
0n..
So
these
changes,,
along
with
some
changed
assumptions
about
how
many
people
in
our
region
are
going
to
tell
a
work..
Now
that
we're
more
used
to
working
remotely.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Nicole
speer:,
if
we're
not
on
target
additional
mitigation,
strategies
will
likely
come
into
effect,
which
will
begin
to
tie
transportation
funding
to
this
mitigation
action
plan..
So
what
that
means
is
that
to
be
competitive
for
transportation
funding,,
we
would
have
to
show.
we're
making
progress
on
these
changes.
R
R
R
Nicole
speer:
but,,
like
I
said,,
the
good
news,
is
that
we're
already
coming
out
ahead..
You
may
remember
that
our
east
border
subcommunity
plan.,
address
this
issue.
Directly.
we're
anticipating
a
reduction
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
due
to
increasing
number
of
people
who
make
trips
closer
to
home
and
work.
R
R
Nicole
speer:
that
dr.
cob
created.,
so
keeping
up
with
the
sb.
21260
greenhouse
gas,
emissions.
reductions
really
just
means
doing
more
of
what
we're
already
doing..
That's
the
end
of
this
little
update
on
the
2,050
rtp.
and
the
mid
the
mitigation
action
plan..
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
about
that
part.
O
O
R
R
Nicole
speer:
good
directions
to
to
be
ready
for
when
some
of
these
things
do
kick
into
effect,
and
and
maybe
we're
wrong.,
maybe
they
won't
kick
into
effect,
and
we'll
get
there
on
our
own..
But
I
I
think
it's
really
just
some
awareness
and
thinking
about.
you
know..
How
are
how
are
the
decisions
we're
making,
fitting
into
this??
How
are
they
going
to
help
us
be
competitive
for
what's
coming
in
a
few
years,
when
these
changes
likely.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Nicole
speer:
right
now
there
are
some
plans
to
figure
out
a
path
forward,
given
that
there's
some
uncertainty
about
when
those
services
are
going
to
be
restored,
and
there
these
are
just
a
few
of
the
things
that
are
being
created
to
try
to
understand
this,
a
little
bit
more.
a
sub
regional
service.
Council.-.
R
R
R
R
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:-
I
just
want
to
share
that
we
have
heard
from
rtd.
like
this,
is
hot
off
the
press,
that
they
will
be
restoring
the
ff.
2
to
denver,,
which
is
the
express
route
to
denver,
and
the
ffi.
would
provide
service
along
36
between
boulder
and
and
shoots
campus,,
and
so
that's
expected
to
happen
in
may..
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
add
a
little
bit
of
good
news
there.
That
rtd.
is
really
working
to
incrementally
bring
back
service,
and
those
were
2
0f.
Our
higher
priority
routes
to
be
restored.
A
P
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
great.
okay..
So
let
me
just
start
by
saying
that
just
kind
of
stepping
back
for
a
minute.
right?,
so
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan,
and
our
transportation
master
plan
provide
the
policy
framework
by
which
city,
staff
and
city
council
representatives,,
as
well
as
tab
work
in
collaboration
with
our
neighbors
and
our
agency
partners,
to
plan,,
to
pursue
funding
and
to
implement
regional
priority.
Projects.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
and,,
as
you
all
know,,
our
current
policy
support
greater
mode
choice
for
both
the
residents,
students,
visitors,
and
non
resident
employees,,
and
encourage
high
quality.
multimodal
travel
options
through
transit,
bicycling
and
ride,.
Sharing.
Much
of
what's
already
been
discussed,
this
evening.
V
V
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
as
a
reminder.
many
years
ago,,
almost
20
years,
ago,
back
in
2,004
voters,,
approved
the
northwest
rail
as
part
of
rtd's
fast
tracks.
Transit
expansion,
program.
the
first
segment
known
as
the
bee
line,
was
actually
constructed
several
years
ago,
and
operates
between
denver
union
station
and
westminster.
today.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
so
the
study
that
they're
undertaking
now
is
to
evaluate
extending
the
commuter
rail
service,
approximately
another
35
miles
from
the
westminster
station
to
boulder
and
longmont,
using
the
freight
railroad
tracks
owned
by
the
burlington
northern
santa
fe,
or
bsf.
through.
What's
called
an
initial
peak
service,
approach.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
and
this
approach
consists
of
3
weekday
morning
trips
from
longmont
to
denver,
and
3
weekday
evening
trips
from
denver
to
longmont..
And
while
this
study
is
focused
on
peak
service,,
it
will
identify
opportunities
to
implement
full
day
service
in
the
future.
as
ridership
increases.
V
V
Jean
sanson,,
cob:
and
rtd
is
looking
at
opportunities
to
implement
northwest
rail
by
partnering
with
other
stakeholders,
such
as
the
front
range
passenger
rail
district..
So
this
was
a
state
agency
that
was
established
last
year
with
the
task
of
developing
and
ultimately
completing
a
passenger
rail
system.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
throughout
each
milestone.,
the
study
team
is
meeting
with
local
representatives
like
our
staff,,
for
input
on
things
like
station
design
plans..
So
we've
been
working
with
the
rtd
team
to
look
at
the
boulder
junction
area
and
how
the
rail
system
would
integrate
into
existing
and
planned
infrastructure.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
and
when
we
say
freight
sightings,,
what
we're
referring
to
is
the
fact
that
this
commuter
rail
service
would
have
to
share
tracks
with
freight
rail
that
currently
operates
on
the
burlington
northern
santa
free
right
of
way..
So
what
would
happen
is
that
those
freight
trains
would
be
required
to
to
move
over
essentially
to
park
on
siding,,
which
can
be
pretty
long,,
while
the
passenger
trains
or
commuter
rail
passes.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
so
the
city
of
boulder,,
along
with
our
partners,,
such
as
boulder
transportation
connections
and
commuting
solutions,,
have
been
promoting
community
engagement,
opportunities,
and
I'd
encourage
you
all
to
do
so
as
well.
By
participating
in
the
self
guided
online
meeting.
There's
a
link
here.
V
V
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
as
you
can
see
from
this
map,,
it's
a
pretty
long
segment..
It
spans
3
counties
and
multiple
local
jurisdictions
between
boulder
on
the
west,
and
brighton
on
the
east..
So
to
advance
implementation
of
this
vision,,
the
colorad0
7
coalition,,
which
includes
the
city
of
boulder
in
coordination
with
c.
dot.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
and
environmental
engineering
design
projects
throughout
the
quarter.,
so
you
can
see
from
this
legend,.
These
design
projects
are
illustrated
in
the
map
with
their
associated
tip
funding.,
so
you
know,
it
also
illustrates,,
as
you
can
see
here,
on
the
lower
right
hand,
side
of
the
legend
that
tip
dollars
are
being
used
to
begin.
What's
called
br.
t
start
up
service.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
and
basically
you
know
what
I
like
about
this..
This
map
that
was
created
by
the
c
consulting
team
is
that
it
underscores.
how
important
these
tip
funding
cycles
are
to
implementing
regional
transit
and
bicycle
connectivity
in
our
region,,
all
in
the
service
of
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
vehicle
miles
traveled
from
commuters..
I
know
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
this
past
year
talking
about
tip
cycles,,
but
this
is
why
it's
important,,
because
it
really
does
move
per
projects.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
so
honing
in
on
our
end
of
the
quarter,
about
a
1
million
and
a
half
of
these
funds
are
allocated
for
the
east
arapaho
preliminary
environmental
and
engineering
project
between
28
and
60
third
streets..
This
is
an
important
next
step
toward
implementing
the
full
vision
for
east
arapaho,,
which
includes
the
following
elements
that
you
can
see
on
this
cross.
Section.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
seda
is
coordinating,
closing
with
closely
with
the
city
of
boulder
on
this
12
month
project,
and
is
hired
hdr.
as
the
lead
consultant.
Internal
scoping
and
data
collection
has
begun,,
and
we
expect
to
begin
to
look
at
design
cross-sections
in
the
coming
weeks
to
understand
how
the
easter
rappho
vision
fits
within
the
existing
right
of
way.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
as
I
mentioned,
project
outcomes,
will
include
15%
design
plans
and
cost
estimates,,
including
cross-sections.,
and
following
completion
of
the
preliminary
design,
plans.
The
city
of
boulder
will
take
the
lead
in
advancing
the
western
segment
of
this
project
between
20
eighth
street
and
foothills
parkway
t0
30%
design
drawings,
which
we
expect
to
begin
in
2,024..
So
you
can
see
the
progression.
V
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L
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
yeah.,
jean
sanson,
cob:
yeah,
becky,,
that
is
such
a
great
question..
There
is
absolutely
an
expectation
by
c.
dot
and
the
coalition
that
there
be
consistency
between
facilities..
So
there
is
like
an
overall
sort
of
umbrella
corridor
team
being
managed
by
c
dot,,
both
region
one,
and
in
in
region
4,
which
this
project
spans.
V
V
Jean
sanson,,
cob:
and
they'll
do
the
same
with
other
types
of
infrastructure,
like
transit,
facilities,
etc.,,
and
they
are
coordinated
so
that
all
of
these
projects
are
kind
of
feeding
up
into
those
coalition
conversations,,
and
we
have
staff
level,,
regular
staff
level
meetings
to
ensure
that
those
projects
are
linking
to
each
other
in
such
a
way
that,
as
a
user,
it
doesn't
matter
to
you
if
you've
crossed
from
the
city
of
boulder
into
boulder
county,.
It
feels
like
a
consistent
facility
and
and
service,
for
that.
Matter.
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
has
one
of
the
highest.
it's
one
of
the
highest
cash
roadways
in
boulder
county,,
in
improvements
to
this
regional
quarter,,
our
first
and
foremost
intending
to
improve
safety
for
all
users,,
particularly
our
most
vulnerable
users..
I
think
these
are
some
very
sobering
statistics,
and.
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
there
aren't
other
important
needs,
as
seen
here,
a
lack
of
a
direct
bike
connection
unless
you'd
venture
to
ride
on
the
shoulder.
limited,
rtd.
bus
service
operating
in
mixed
traffic
and
forecasted
growth
in
the
quarter
mean
that
new
solution
solutions
to
transportation.
Improvements
in
this
quarter
are
needed.
V
V
V
V
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
as
you
can
imagine,
as
we
move
through
final
design
and
complete
this
last
phase
of
the
process.
Before,
add
an
advertisement
goes
out
for
construction..
There
will
be
additional
opportunities
for
community
engagement,
and
we'll
keep
you
updated.
As
we
know
more
about
this
process
in
the
coming
spring,
timeframe.
V
A
V
P
P
P
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:,
looking
at
applying
for
grants,,
there's
the
regional,
and
then
there's
the
sub
regional,
and
the
projects
that
jean
talked
about
today
are
mostly
in
the
regional
bucket.,
so
we're
coming
together
with
partner
agencies,,
looking
at
how
we
can
further
these
corridors.
and
and
so
we.
P
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
are
a
partner
on
those
regional
projects,,
the
regional
tip,
applications,
and
then
separately.,
there's
a
sub
regional
call,
which
are
the
ones
that
you
all
are
very
familiar
with,,
because
that's
what
tab
has
been
intimately
involved
in
this
year,
and
then
those
are
prioritized,.
You
know,,
as
as
we've
done.
P
P
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
making
say
our
local
street
safer
is
a
priority.
and
so
then
we're
funding
both
of
those
priorities,
and
and
they're,
not
necessarily
being
compared
against
each
other.
When
it
comes
to
how
we're
funding
each.
we're
saying
they're,
both
priorities,
and
we're
going
to
fund
them,
as
we
can.
P
W
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:,
so
the
I.
everything
natalie
said,
is
absolutely
a
spot
on..
The
only
thing
I
would
add
is
that
the
the
regional
tip
call
for
projects
tends
to
be
more
favorable,
and
that,
because
there
tends
to
be
more
funding
partners
that
participate.
for
example,
the
preliminary
concept
design
for
c0
7,
that
gene
highlighted
there
was
funding
participation
from
broomfield,
from
adams
county,
from
thornton,
from
brighton,
from.
W
P
P
P
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
there's
a
coalition
of
of
regional
jurisdictions
that
are
all
working
towards
that
goal,
and
it
would
be
a
a
really
big
divergence
from
that
partnership
and
collaboration
with
all
these
regional
jurisdictions.
For
us,
not
to,,
you
know,
go
in
when
all
these
regional
jurisdictions
are
saying,
hey.
P
A
A
A
P
V
V
V
Jean
sanson,
cob:
travel
volume,
forecast.
but
what's
happening
is
we're
seeing
those
peaks
start
to
change
right,.
So
they're,
not
the
peak
travel
time
isn't
as
peaky
it's
starting
to
soften.,
so
we're
starting
to
look
at
how
designs
will
accommodate
that
over
time
with
different
usage
of
the
roadways
during
different
times
of
day,
and
adjusting
travel
volumes
accordingly,
as
well.
P
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
P
P
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
A
U
Y
Y
Cob,
allison
moore-farrell
(she/her):
and
I
will
share.
oh,
sorry!
briefly..
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing:
when
we
were
sending
in
the
packets
there.,
there
has
been
a
scope:
expansion
for
the
community
working
group
members
from
3
meetings,
t0
5
meetings..
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
prior
to
anyone
committing
to
being
the
liaison.
Y
U
U
O
O
O
O
A
Y
Y
Cob,
allison
moore-farrell
(she/her):
as
a
liaison,
is
to
share
the
information
from
the
community
working
group
with
the
board
and
and
vice
versa..
So
so
you,
you
don't
have
to
have,
you
know,
airport
experience,,
you
know,
to
be
on
the
board,
and
I'll
also
share
that
we
also
have
a
planning
board
liaison
on
the
community
working
group
as
well..
So.
Y
U
U
U
U
A
L
O
O
U
P
O
P
P
P
P
P
Natalie
stiffler,,
cob:
and
so
it'll
be
important
that
we're
kind
of
getting
the
community
feedback
as
we
prepare
for
that
transition..
So
tonight
we're
asking
tab
for
a
representative.
For
this
working
group.-
I
don't
have
as
many
of
the
details
as
far
as
the
commitment
goes,.
I
know
the
work
will
occur
in
2,023..
The
working
group
will
work,
will
occur.
and
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
a
few
meetings,,
so
you
could
probably.
P
P
P
P
P
P
A
O
O
O
O
O
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A
A
A
P
P
P
P
P
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:.
I
can't
speak
for
what
occurred
then,,
but
what
I
can
say
is
that,
as
we
move
forward
with
projects
like
this.,
we
will
collectively
have
honest
conversations
that
address
the
question
of
trade
offs.
When
we
can't
have
everything,,
including
trade
offs
related
to
a
constraint
budget.
P
P
P
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Alex
weinheimer,
tab:
and
that
wasn't
originally
alex
weinheimer,
tab:
brought
to
the
community
for
their
feedback..
It
wasn't
in
the
staff
recommendation.,
it
was
brought
to
like
an
emergency
tab.
Meeting,
and
a
majority
of
the
board
members
expressed
concerns
about
that
multi
east
path.
Long
term,,
though,
on
it's
up
there,
now.
A
Alex
weinheimer,
tab:
part
cars
can
be
parked
in
the
future.
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
We
preserve
the
opportunity
to
add
parking.,
where
there's
there's
none
today,
and
redevelop
redevelopment
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
it's
zone
so
that
it
can
mirror
the
east
side
of
the
street
and
have
ground
floor
retail.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
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A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
U
U
U
U
U
U
Tila
duhaime:,
but
it
was
a.
It
was
an
attempt
with
con
limited,,
you
know,
right
of
way
and
room
to
put
everything
that
we
wanted
to
try
a
vertical
separation
instead
of
the
horizontal
separation..
Since
then,
we've
we've
learned
some
lessons
about
where
that
works.
Where
that
doesn't
work.
why,.
Why
and
where
parking
protected
stuff
might
be.
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U
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P
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):.
So
what
is
happening
here
is
kind
of
doing
some
forensics,.
But
I
I
really
appreciate
something
you
said,
and
I'm
I'm
paraphrasing
here,,
but
something
something
along
the
lines
of
making
a
commitment
to
making
sure
that
we
have
values,
decisions
that
are
happening
in.
O
Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):
in
the
daylight,
with
with
with
community
and
elected,,
and
I'm
totally
prayer
for
everything..
But
that's
what
I
took
from
it..
I
thought
that
was
really
that's
so
important.
and
I
and
I
know,.
I
believe
that
that's
that's
that's
something
you
really
mean.
and
that's
that's
gonna
be
very
helpful
for
us
going
forward.
and
I've
really
just
been
impressed
this
over
this
past
6
months
or
a
year
with.
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Ryan
schuchard,,
tab,
(he/him):
and
and
and
the
community
has
given
advice
on
and
and
is,
is
making
a
difference..
So
I
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
that
we're
headed
in
the
right,
direction,
and
I'm..
I'm
grateful
for
everybody
who's
working
together
on
this
to
in
the
next
chapter,,
and
then
I
just
have
just
kind
of
1
0ne
thought.
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Ryan
schuchard,,
tab,
(he/him):
and
if
you'll
allow
me
to
just
reference
a
podcast
there,
today,
jeff
jesspek,
who's,
a
planner
that
was
actually
referenced
in
the
the
west
pearl
as
a
as
an
authoritative
figure..
He
was
interviewed
on
the
strong
towns
podcast,
and
he
he
said
something
along
the
lines
of.
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Triny
willerton,
tab:
yeah,
can.
Can
I
just
add
to
what
becky
says
before
you
answer:
devin?
I'm
sorry,,
but
it
it's
because
it
seems
like
a
vicious
circle.
right?
I
mean
you're,
not
gonna
have
the
quorum
that
you're
looking
for
to
improve
the
crossing,,
because
people
intuitively
are
not
going
to
go
because
they
don't
feel
safe..
So
it's
like,,
you
know.
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Rebecca
davies,
tab:
yeah,,
I'm
hearing
you,,
maybe
something
I
need
to
learn
more
about
or
read
more
about
to
understand.
I
just.
I
I
guess
I
see
others
examples
of
it
that
I
have
a
hard
time
kind
of
reconciling
like
we're
talking
about
this
site.
review
earlier
in
the
meeting,
and
there's
like
a
new
road
for
2.
it
for
car
traffic
to
go
through.
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tila
duhaime:
and
they
page
12,
t0
13.,
section
2.2,
point
10,
says:
staff,
is
aware
of
the
fact.:
there
are
locations
where
pedestrians
regularly
cross
arterial
roadways.
and
yet
the
crossing
does
not
serve
a
multi-use
path
for
a
school..
So
we
would
be
thinking
more
about
the
marine
and
thirtieth.
U
Tila
duhaime:
these
locations
typically
occur
on
4
lane,
roadways,,
which
thirtieth
was.
or
6
lane
roadways,
often
to
transit,,
stops
in
the
area..
In
some
cases
it
may
be
appropriate
to
install
treatments
that
facilitate
pedestrian
or
bicycle
crossings.,
but
stop
short
of
the
signed
and
march
processing
treatments
to
find
in
table
one,
which
is
what
you
are
relying
on,.
You
know,
saying
there's
minimum
volumes
that
we
need
to
see.
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Tila
duhaime:
and
the
only
other
option
would
be
to
ignore
the
crossing.,
but
staff
does
not
believe
this
is
an
appropriate
response..
These
treatments
will
only
be
considered..
It's
a
location
is
more
than
300
feet
from
the
near
assigned
a
mark,
pedestrian
crossing,,
and
it
is
believed
that
there
is
little
potential
to
redirect
pedestrians
to
a
more
defined
crossing
location.
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Tila
duhaime:
you're,
you
know,
collecting
that
data,,
but
it
does.
it
does
kind
of
sound
like,.
You
know.,
whether
whether
we
pin
down
the
reasons
or
not,,
it
would
still
lend
itself
to
be
a
place
where
we
could,.
We
would
consider
a
crossing
treatment,
because
we're
unlikely
to
be
diverting
pedestrians
away
from
there.
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Devin
joslin,
cob:
thanks
so
much
alex
weinheimer,
tab:
getting
some
attention..
I
know,
I
think,
that
alex
weinheimer,
tab:,
my
understanding
is
parks
and
wreck
is
continue
or
increasing..
How
often
they
encourage
people
to
park
on
the
sea
side
of
the
street
when
the
the
pool
is
is
really
busy..
It
also.
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Rebecca
davies,,
tab:
and
again,
an
equity
consideration
that
rebecca
davies,
tab:
that
we
know
a
lot
of
people
simply
are
ruled
out.
in
the
first
place,
when
something
isn't
safe
for
them
to
use.
and
so
they're
never
going
to
demonstrate
that
they
would.
they
would
use
it..
So
it's
just
something
I'm
going
to
keep
in
mind
for
future
projects..
If,
if
this
comes
up
as
a
criteria,,
I
think.
but.
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Tila
duhaime:
and
I,,
they
don't
get
the
sense
that
that's
happening
as
much
anymore.
and
so
for
a
while.
I
think
a
lot
of
top
members
were
just
like,
well,.
Let's
wait
and
see
what
happens
with
the
you
know
if,
if
an
official
staff
person
responds,
and
then
we've
also
always
said,
you
know,,
if
you,,
if
if
something
strikes
a
particular
cord
with
you
as
a
tab,
member.
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U
Tila
duhaime:,
if
you
want
to.,
if
you
want
to
show
other
ted
members
or
staff,
or
something
that
you
have
responded,
and
what
you've
said,,
that's
there's
no
problem
with
that.,
but
just
don't.
Try
not
t0
0pen
an
an
email
chain
where
a
bunch
of
people
can
comment
back
and
forth..
So
just
use
bcc
for
that.
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Natalie
stiffler,,
cob:,
yeah,
I'll,
add
from
the
staff's
perspective,
so
definitely..
There
was
a
time
several
years
ago
where
the
expectation
was
that
staff
was
going
to
respond
to
every
tab,.
You
know.,
I
would
say,
we're
on
the
other
end
of
that
spectrum.
now..
So
when
emails
come
to
the
tab,
email.
my.
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Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
to
have
a
forum
with
community
members
around
issues
that
we're
going
to
tab,
or
that
should
be
going
to
tab.
and
really
you
know,
it.,
that's
not
a
public
forum..
We
don't
want
to
be
conducting
ourselves
over
email
that
way.
and
so
that's
kind
of
the
perspective
from
from
staff.
At
this
point.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):
there
there
was
something
about
she
was
saying:
like,
well,.
I
hope
council
council
should
hear
this,
and
I
do.
the
substance
was
on.
Like
how,,
I
think,
with
how
existing
parking
mandates
get
in
the
way
of
some
of
our
these
more
project
based
proposals,,
and
it
just
got
to
me
thinking
that
how
tab
fulfills.
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab
(he/him):
as
we
fulfill
our
role
and
advise
the
council.-
you
know
we're.
we're
covering
it
like
so
much
material
here
at
so
many
different
levels.
and
there's
a
few
nuggets
of
meetings
like
this
that
that
I
would
imagine.
you
know,
council
might
want
to
know
if
we're
saying,
hey,,
we'll
counsel,
here's
this.,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
a.
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U
Tila
duhaime:,
but
you
see,,
it
really
did
not
know
a
whole
lot
about
what
was
happening
in
tab.
and
I
said,
yeah,.
This
is
something
we
got
to
really
pin
down,
and
I
don't
want
to
put
anything
more
on
council,,
but
it
might
be
a
role
for
a
chair
or
vice
chair,
going
forward
to..
If,
if
there
are
some.