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C
There
we
go,
all
right
sounds
like
we
are
all
here.
We
have
a
quorum.
I
am
calling
to
order
the
meeting
on
monday
january
10
2022
of
the
transportation
advisory
board
for
the
city
of
boulder,
welcome,
let's
go
ahead
and
let
everybody
in
the
waiting
room
that
we
need
to.
C
It
looks
like
everyone
is
in.
We
will
continue
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
let
people
in
as
we
go,
but
I
would
like
to
open
this
meeting
first
of
this
year
and
I'm
gonna
remember
in
time
this
time.
This
time
we
will
go
over
our
meeting
rules
first
for
conducting
virtual
meetings.
Veronica
is
going
to
be
helping
us
as
the
technical
host
this
evening.
B
B
This
meeting
has
been
called
to
conduct
the
business
of
the
city
of
boulder
activities
that
disrupt
delay
or
otherwise
interfere
with
the
meetings
are
prohibited.
The
time
for
speaking
or
asking
questions
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
No
person
shall
speak,
except
when
recognized
by
myself,
and
no
person
shall
speak
for
longer
than
the
given
three
minutes.
B
Each
person
shall
register
to
speak
at
the
meeting
using
their
real
name.
Any
person
believed
to
be
using
a
name
other
than
the
one
they
are
commonly
known
by
will
not
be
permitted
to
speak
at
the
meeting,
and
if
you
are
joining
by
phone,
you
will
need
to
press
star
6
to
unmute
and
star
9,
to
raise
your
hand,
so
no
video
will
be
permitted,
except
for
city
officials,
employees
and
invited
speakers.
B
B
C
C
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
to
do
about
that,
because
this
is
the
kind
of
a
good
area
we'll
carry
on
if
it
continues,
I
might
drop
off
and
then
try
to
rejoin.
Let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
introduction
of
valerie
watson,
our
new
transportation
planning
manager.
D
Very
much
I'm
eric
evan
brand
director
of
transportation
mobility
here
at
the
city
of
boulder,
and
I
would
like
to
introduce
valerie
watson.
D
She
is
our
new
manager
of
transportation
planning
and
she
comes
to
us
from
the
city
of
los
angeles,
where
she
has
held
a
number
of
different
roles
and
responsibilities
that
include
you
know,
basically
just
about
doing
everything
you
could
ever
imagine
when
it
comes
to
transportation,
land,
use,
planning,
long-range
zoning
and
also
dealing
with
everything,
that's
related
to
making
your
city
streets
safe
for
bicycling
walking,
and
you
know
the
pedestrians
accessing
transit
as
well
as
trying
to
make
things
safer
for
vehicles.
D
So
with
that,
I,
if
valerie,
if
you
have
any
additional
things
that
you
would
like
to
say,
I
would
invite
you
to
do
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
valerie
to
you
tab,
because
she's
going
to
be
a
key
member
of
our
collective
team
as
we
go
forward.
E
E
I
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
who
serve
on
our
tab
and
I'm
just
also
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
it's
fantastic
to
start
a
new
year
and
you
know,
work
through
all
the
things
that
that
we're
going
to
be
achieving
this
year
and
charting
that
out
with
our
fantastic
team
so
yeah.
I
I'm
so
sorry
that
I
can't
smile
and
wave
at
you
and
on
the
screen
here.
Oh
okay,
interesting,
thank
you
from
lynn
for
that,
but
yeah.
E
I'm
I'm
really
happy
to
be
here
and
I
look
forward
to
meeting
all
of
you
in
person
and
virtually.
F
F
C
Well,
valerie:
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you,
if
not
in
the
flesh,
at
least
in
the
virtual
space
in
the
months
to
come,
but
welcome
aboard.
We
are
pleased
to
have
you.
C
Never
seen
anything
like
this
before
for
sure
I'm
kidding
we
will
improve
along
then,
unless
anyone
has
any
questions
of
valerie
tab,
then
we're
just
going
to
move
along
to
approval
of
a
couple
sets
of
minutes.
We
have
received
and
posted
online
revised
october
20
21
minutes,
which
included
a
section
where
we
had
our
first
concept
review,
weigh
in
as
a
as
tab.
C
G
I
want
to
thank
meredith
for
the
very
detailed
and
accurate
recording
of
our
october
meeting
with
the
missing
the
item
that
went
missing.
The
now
that
it's
filled
in
is
filled
in
really
nicely.
So
thank
you.
G
With
the
most
just
the
whole,
the
whole
thing
that
that
missing
item
is
now
there
and
it's
it's
there
in
a
in
a
way
that
I'm
happy
to
move
to
approve
the
revised
october
minutes.
Well,.
C
Done
I
will
second
that
all
in
favor
of
approving
the
revised
october
2021
minutes,
I
see
one
two
three
four
five
hands
approved.
Thank
you
very
much
for
correcting
that.
I
am
of
course,
curious
if
we
have
any
insight
about
what
happened
and
how
such
an
item
got
dropped
but
alex
thanks
again
for
watching
that
and
bring
it
to
our
attention.
Last
meeting.
C
Okay,
yep
good
thing:
someone
recorded
this
thing:
okay,
let's
move
on,
then
there
were
also
a
draft
december
2021
minute
meeting
meeting
minutes.
Does
any
member
of
tab
have
any
revisions
or
amendments
to
those
minutes.
I
G
I'm
just
looking
at
my
notes
here
and
under
item.
Seven
I
believe,
was
matters
from
the
board.
There
was
a
discussion
about
the
protected
bike
lanes
on
folsom
and
they
were
noted
as
projected
bike
lanes.
F
Yeah,
thanks
on
open
board
comment,
we
had
a
pretty
lengthy
discussion
about
the
the
amps
and
curve
management
and
I
think
it
might
benefit
from
just
a
kind
of
a
summary
sentence.
This
is
something
like
tab
express
concern
that
tab
has
not
been
given
sufficient
standing
and
influence
with
amps
initiatives,
or
something
like
that.
I
think
I
think
that
would
capture
what
the
conversation
was
about.
I
could
repeat
that
or
send
it
to
the
tab.
F
C
So
I
will
caution
that,
typically,
the
secretary
is
much
more
in
charge
of
capturing
verbatim
comments
as
opposed
to
summarizing
them.
That's
where
we
kind
of
get
into
trouble,
but
it
does
appear
that
majority
of
tab
is
thinks
that
what
you
just
stated
is
a
succinct
enough,
an
accurate
summary
of
what
happened.
I
have
no
objection
to,
including
that
in
the
minutes
which
is
sort
of
the
general
flavor
doesn't
feel
like
what
is
usually
captured
in
this,
because
that
is
the
secretary's
job.
C
Okay,
I
got
a
thumbs
up
from
meredith,
I'm
going
to
interpret
that
as
an
amendment
to
the
minute.
So
there's
a
motion
to
amend
the
minutes
as
ryan
has
just
described
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
amend.
J
C
I
was
looking
at
the
wrong
agenda,
so
future
was
seven
and
eight
was
a
german.
So
I
think
just
eight
should
be
seven.
E
C
A
C
Physically
re-numbered
on
the
agenda
last
time,
future
agenda
topics
was
misnumbered
should
be
seven
and
then.
A
C
C
Okay,
so,
as
I
said,
I
think
we
have
on
the
floor
a
motion
to
amend
the
minutes,
as
ryan
shoehart
has
suggested.
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
that
motion.
C
Awesome,
as
amended,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve.
C
I
C
Okay,
now
we
are
at
the
public
comment
section.
There
is
no
public
hearing
item
this
evening,
so
if
members
of
the
public
wish
to
win
another,
do
you
think
cab
should
be
paying
attention
to
now
is
the
time
when
seagal,
I
see
your
hand
up,
but
other
wish
to
participate
in
public
comments.
It's
a
great
time
to
raise
your
hand,
and
let
us
know
that
you're
waiting-
and
I
will
turn
this
over-
to
virga-
to
to
manage
people
I'll,
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
B
K
Yo,
I
just
tried
a
persimmon.
I
didn't
know
what
you
do
with
those,
but
I
think
they're
really
good
for
you
when
they
taste
good.
It's
kind
of
strange
persimmon
check
it
out
my
bike
crash.
I
think
I
told
you
about
it,
but
you
have
bigger
problems
to
solve
because
of
that
rye
crust,
then
folsom
street
and
I'm
glad
you
said
projected
was
wrong.
It
was
protected
because
god
forbid
that
we
should
have
to
go
through
that
protective
curb
there
again.
K
Marnie
russell
explained
it
to
me
today
again,
I
needed
to
talk
to
her
after
the
rocky
flats
meeting
today,
because
she's
the
alternate
on
the
executive
committee
meetings,
and
so
I
was
surprised
to
run
into
a
blast
from
the
past.
Once
again,
pretty
cool
she's
been
around
20
years
ryan.
So
what
you
need
to
do
is
you
need
to
get
these
this
this
methamphetamine
situation
resolved.
K
So
that's
a
big
order
for
you,
because
I
can
use
the
bike
lanes
on
folsom,
but
I
cannot
avoid
people
on
math
that
are
doing
erratic
behavior
on
the
bike
path.
I
can't
save
myself
from
that.
Believe
me.
I
go
fast
granted.
Okay,
I
ride
my
bike
seriously
to
get
somewhere,
but
I
am
watching
all
the
time
to
see
if
someone
has
headphones
on
and
to
what
they're
doing
and
I
could
not
have
controlled
this
situation.
Believe
me,
it
reminds
me
of
nadine
who
was
almost
rescued
from
the
fire.
K
There
were
only
two
people:
robert
sharp
tried
to
fight
it
with
his
garden
hose
and
died,
but
nadine
was
attached
to
her
dogs
around
a
table
and
scotty
tried
to
get
in
to
save
her,
but
only
her
granddaughter
could
get
out.
K
Scottie
couldn't
pull
out
the
table
with
the
dogs
and
her
he
could
have
pulled
her
out
exclusively,
but
it
reminded
me
of
the
dog
in
the
bike
path
that
I
almost
hurt
the
dog
if
I
hadn't
stopped
right
when
I
stopped,
but
it
hurt
my
shoulder
really
bad
and
now
I
haven't
still
seen
anyone
because
I've
been
navigating
medicare.
I
haven't
used
healthcare
in
two
decades,
so
navigating
the
system
is
just
incredibly
complex.
It
consumes
your
whole
time,
but
the
other
thing
is,
you
need
to
do
something
about
cu
south
the
millennium.
K
All
of
these
developments
that
are
bringing
in
all
these
people
for
intra-bolder
community
and
I'm
losing
my
thrift
stores.
Now
I
have
to
drive
my
bike
now
out
to
humane
society,
because
I
can't
go
to
re's,
but
that's
using
my
bike
tires
and
that's
not
a
non-renewable
resource
too,
because
I
need
to
buy
new
bike
tires
because
I'm
going
further,
so
everything
has
a
cost.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much
lynn.
I
really
appreciate
you
reminding
us
to
note
the
recent
fires
and
how
they've
impacted
not
just
people
in
the
city
of
boulder,
but
our
larger
community.
Of
course
you
know
as
a
transportation
board.
We
are
of
course
concerned
with
them
thinking
about
regional
transit
and
transit
between
cities.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
anyone
else,
who's
wanting
to
participate
in
open.
E
C
Okay,
so
hearing
nothing
else
from
veronica,
I
will
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
comment
section
session.
C
C
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
listed
as
an
information
item
only
it
was
a
pretty
sizable
part
of
our
packet,
but
it
was
just
sort
of
an
update
on
amps
and
what's
what's
called
amps
2.0,
but
access
management
and
parking
services,
work
and
work
plan
for
the
coming.
B
C
I
did
ask
that
we
have
some
time
set
aside
to
discuss
it
and
to
ask
questions.
I
see
that
both
chris
jones,
I
think
I
saw
the
other
chris
on
here.
I
have
to
skip
through,
but
I
at
least
chris
is
here.
Oh
chris,
chris.
C
You're
at
the
bottom
of
my
list,
for
some
reason
I
have
to
scroll
through
a
few
pages,
but
they
are
available
here
if
we
have
any
questions
for
them
or
feedback
generally
on
on
that
item.
C
G
No,
so
I'm
a
little
confused,
so
we
don't
have
a
presentation
tonight.
We
have
a
33-page
memo
and
it's
just
open
comment
time.
What
what
what's?
What's
the?
What
are
we
doing
here.
L
I'm
happy
to
chime
in
and
chris.
If
you
would
want
to
follow
up,
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we,
as
we
did
two
years
ago,
refreshed
everyone's
memory
on
all
the
different
work
programs
included
in
the
amps
document
that
are
representative
of
many
different
departments
and
many
different
project
managers
update.
We
wanted
to
update
all
of
our
boards
and
commissions
on
what
we
anticipate
to
accomplish
in
2022,
largely
in
advance
of
the
city
council's
work
planning
efforts
through
their
retreats.
L
So
I
wanted
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
understand
what
we
intend
to
be
moving
forward
from
a
variety
of
departments
where
community
vitality,
we
are
certainly
seeking
to
make
progress
in
our
priority-based
neighborhood
access
management
and
performance-based
pricing
on
street,
where
another,
a
number
of
other
departments,
also
have
work
that
they're
anticipating
for
2022.
So
it
was
really
informative
intended
to
be
informative
to
let
you
all
know
what
various
departments
are
carrying
forward
in
the
year
ahead
and
letting
you
know
that
we
will
anticipate
the
various
project.
G
Okay,
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
I
did
try
to
make
my
way
through
the
through
the
through
the
memo
here.
I'm
just
going
to
rearrange
a
couple
screens
real
quick
here,
so
I
can
okay.
G
L
Sure
so,
if
you
recall
the
work
that
we've
done
over
the
past
couple
years,
specifically
around
street
pricing
and
the
neighborhood
program,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
pricing
is
reflective
of
the
utilization
that
we
are
experiencing
during
peak
hours
in
our
managed
on-street
program
and
so
in
the
parking
industry,
85
percent
utilization
or
higher
is,
is
really
perceived
to
be
at
capacity
or
or
fully
utilized.
And
so
it's
important
to
price
that
on
street
those
on-street
facilities
appropriately
to
target
between
75
and
80
85
percent
utilization.
L
So
in
the
year
ahead
we
will
be
working
to
better
understand
utilization.
You
know
our
parking
activity
has
been
severely
impacted
by
the
pandemic,
and
so
conditions
have
changed
significantly
since
this
amp's
work
was
originally
pursued.
L
But
we're
really
delighted
we've
brought
on
samantha
bromberg
has
joined
us
from
the
finance
department.
She,
where
she
led
on
the
city's
transition
in
our
our
business,
licensing
and
she's
in
her
second
her
third
week
today,
with
community
vitality,
as
our
project
analyst
in
charge
of
access
coordination.
So
she's
going
to
be
working
to
pursue
all
the
recommendations
from
the
work
done
by
walker
consultants
over
the
past
couple
years
for
priority
based
enabled
access
management
and
the
performance-based
pricing.
G
Okay,
great
thank
you.
So
it
sounds
like
performance-based
pricing.
If
you're
trying
to
keep
your
parking
spots
full
between
75
and
85
percent,
that
that
is,
you
are
accepting
and
reacting
to
signals
from
the
market
that
say:
okay,
I'm
I'm
at
90,
I'm
at
95,
I'm
too
low.
G
I
need
to
raise
my
prices,
I'm
at
60,
maybe
now
actually,
if
we
had
fewer
cars
on
the
street,
because
we
had
mode
shifted
to
reduce
vmt,
that
would
that
might
be
a
a
different
sort
of
signal
that
we
need
to
respond
to
and
it
may
not
be
a
reduction
in
parking
prices.
But
anyway
I
get
your.
G
I
get
your
drift
there,
so
you
mentioned
there
there's
this
mention
of
amps
goals,
but
then
I
searched
the
document
and
tried
to
find
an
actual
summary
of
the
goals
or
a
statement
of
goals
or
something
like
that
and-
and
I
didn't
find
it,
but
again
it's
a
big
document,
so
I
very
well
could
have
missed
it.
But
my
question
is:
on
page
two:
we
have
the
amps
guiding
principles.
L
Largely
yes,
for
the
long
term,
amps
approved
document
by
city
council,
so
amps
was
a
document
that
was
developed
in
partnership
with
consultant
kimberly
horn
back
in
2016..
It
was
approved
by
council
in
2017,
and
so
that's
really.
L
The
document
I
believe
is
linked
to
we
that
we
felt
like
the
memo
information
item
was
large
enough
as
it
was
so
we
did
not
attach
the
original
amps
document,
but
that's
really
the
foundation
of
all
the
work
that
we
have
been
pursuing
to
these
various
ends
over
the
the
past
several
years,
and
that
includes
a
lot
more
description
of
what
the
background
of
those
guiding
principles
or
goals
are.
C
C
G
And
it's
I'll
I'll,
just
state
that
I'm
a
big
fan
of
clearly
stated
goals.
What
the
mission
is,
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
and
I
came
away
slightly
confused
about
what
the
real
goals
were
here
in
the
memo
and
again,
if
you're
going
to
counsel
or
you're
coming
to
tab
or
whatever
I.
I
always
appreciate.
G
A
way
of
evaluating
progress
are
there:
are
we
achieving
our
goals?
Are
we
moving
away
from
our
goals,
and
so
I
struggled
with
this
document
a
little
bit
because
parking
as
a
as
a
function
of
automobiles
that
are
momentarily
stationary
and
stored.
G
You
know
we,
we
really
don't
mention
any
linkage
to
the
transportation
master
plan.
We
don't
really
mention
in
any
sort
of
significant
goal
way:
climate
change,
mode
shift,
bmt,
reduction
or
or
really
what
a
significant
one
for
me
for
amps
would
be
to
say.
We
are
going
to
raise
revenue
enough
that
enforcement
is
covered
and
that
we
have
we
take
money
from
parking
and
we
have
it
to
apply
to
other
goals
which
would
be
equity
goals
could
be
subsidizing.
G
My
I
would
think
that
one
of
the
ways
to
measure
the
performance
of
the
amps
program
is
in
total
does
parking
not
only
pay
for
itself
pay
for
enforcement,
but
does
it
does
it
help
us
reach
our
other
goals,
as
stated
in
our
transportation
master
plan?
So
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
any
comments
on
that.
H
Well,
mark
I
can
start
chris
haglin
principal
planner,
sorry,
one
of
the
guiding
principles
listed
on
the
amp's
website
and
what
council
approved
is
to
plan
for
the
present
and
the
future,
and
that
goal
specifically
or
that
guiding
principle
specifically
states
that
we're
going
to
align
the
amps
work
with
master
plans,
including
the
tmp,
the
climate
commitment
and
sustainability
framework.
So
those
are
that
is
part
of
the
guiding
principles
to
align
with
those.
H
I
would
also
add
that
in
our
last
work
that
we
had,
we
certainly
want
to
bring
pricing
up
to
cover
the
cost.
We
did
that
with
the
the
neighborhood
parking
permit
program.
H
That
is
the
goal
to
do
that
and
then,
once
we
do
recover
costs,
there
is
the
plan
to
how
do
we
proceed
in
the
future
with
additional
revenue
to
provide
those
types
of
community
benefits,
and
then
I
would
also
just
add
that
we've
been
doing
that
for
decades
in
the
downtown
already,
where
the
eco
passes
for
business,
employees,
businesses
and
employees
in
the
downtown
is
paid
for
through
parking
revenue.
G
Great,
thank
you
very
much
because
I
actually
so
I
I
I
was
concentrating
on
the
page
two
of
the
memo
and
you
are
right
down
here
in
the
in
the
attached
document
plan
for
president
and
future
is
expanded
upon
so
anyway.
I
appreciate
you
pointing
that
out.
G
That
that
downtown,
I
think,
I
think,
as
a
like.
We
have
the
tmp
report
card
and
maybe
it's
maybe
it's
buried
in
here
and
I
didn't
get
to
it.
It
would
be
nice
to
see
a
measurable
metric
of
how
you
know
where
revenue
is
in
relation
to
cost
and
and
where,
where
that
revenue
is,
is
being
where
it's
going
to
help
us
reach
our
goals.
G
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
also
say
that
I
guess,
whenever
both
chris's
had
brought
the
item
before
council
before
ryan
had
been
there
as
a
very
eloquent
and
very
passionate
member
of
tab
and
also
you
know,
as
an
expert
trying
to
share
the
thoughts
and
perspectives
about
increasing
levels
of
parking
costs
to
go
beyond
the
items
that
both
chris
had
just
mentioned.
D
And
at
that
point,
when
council
was
considering
it,
they
heard
the
message,
but
they
chose
to
basically
go
with
the
85
percent
metric
that
chris
jones
had
talked
about
and
then
levels
that
would
help
achieve
that.
So
that
was
the.
That
was
the
choice
that
was
made
at
that
time.
It's
not
to
say
that
at
a
future
time
in
the
context
of
transportation
master
plan-
or
you
know
other
considerations
of
council
that
things
could
differ.
But
that's
what
happened
then.
F
You
looking
at
can
I
jump
in
tila
might
be
frozen
alex.
Can
I
jump
in
before
I
agree
with
mark
chris,
and
chris
thanks.
I
agree
with
mark
I
I
I
wish
that
the
tnp
goals
were
at
the
top
of
this
or
part
of
the
top
of
this.
Just
like
I
wish
they
were
when
we
met
last
month
and
talked
about
it
that
that
was
the
starting
point
of
the
conversation,
so
our
job
is
to
do
mode
shifts
and
and
vision,
zero
and
vmt
production
and
climate.
F
Those
are
top
transportation
goals,
so
I'd
sure
like
them
to
come
out
more.
So
I
disagree
with
mark
and
then
I
just
have
a
maybe
I
guess
it's
a
question
and
erica
it's
kind
of
picking
up
on
something
you
said,
and
this
is
for
the
chris's.
So
we
do
have
a
a
new
council
that
you
know.
I
think
individually.
F
We've
heard
a
lot
of
individual
members,
a
lot
of
interest
in
reduction
and
alleviating
car
dependency,
and
my
question
is:
does
this
does
do
the
documents
we
have
in
front
of
us
reflect
and
an
updated
strategy
that
that
reflects
on
assuming
a
council
wants?
More
ambition
on
those
fronts
of
climate
and
reducing
car
capacity
or
not.
H
Ryan,
I
I
would
say
that
you
know
first
and
foremost,
this
was,
you
know,
an
informational
item.
We
have
not
received
any
direction
specifically
from
council
at
this
point,
I
think
you
know
we're
all
looking
forward
to
their
retreat
and
and
then
receiving
some
of
that
direction.
Specifically.
So
I
would
say
you
know
at
this
point
you
know
the
materials
don't
reflect
the
change
because
we're
we're.
We
don't
know
exactly
what
that
that
may
be.
F
Okay
thanks-
and
I
just
appreciate
that
grace
for
being
so
succinct
I'll.
Just
conclude
by
saying
that,
then
I
think
that
that's
a
message
I
hope
council
would
understand
that
that
that's
really
clear,
then
that
that
we
had
a
meeting
on
this
topic
in
council
last
summer.
Tab
went
to
council
and
said
we
wish
this
was
more
aggressive
and
you
know
ambitious
from
a
climate
and
vmt
reduction
standpoint,
but
it
was.
F
C
Thanks
ryan
thanks
chris,
I
think
well
well
stated
chris
aglin
about
the
current
status.
I
I
didn't
have
just
the
nicest
way
as
mark
mcintyre
is
putting
this,
but
I
really
struggle
and
heck
you
were
talking
about
at
times.
This
is
not
the
first
time
I
the
level
of
an
arm.
I
don't
know.
G
Go
ahead
and
turn
off
your
video
and
see
if
that
helps.
C
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
video
free
for
the
moment-
let's
just
see,
but
you
know
I
consider
myself
fairly
fluent
in
english
and
pretty
good
at
reading
things
in
a
variety
of
styles
and
for
a
number
of
sections
here
I
had
no
idea
what
you
guys
were
trying
to
to
say
or
convey,
and
particularly
if
your
work
going
forward
is
to
try
to
communicate
with
the
public
and
community
and
effectively
talk
to
them
about
why
we're
making
changes.
C
Documents
like
this
memo
are
not
gonna
get
us
there.
We
have
to
do
better
at
saying
more
simply
more
succinctly
without
extra
verbiage.
What
we're
doing.
C
C
Approval
of
projects,
though
desirous
of
certain
trip
generation
targets,
also
cannot
determine
or
enforce
their
ultimate
effect.
There
are
so
many
more
succinct
and
direct
ways
to
say
what
I
think
you're
trying
to
say.
I'm
really
not
even
sure
what
you're
trying
to
say
the
next
paragraph
down
about
strategy
and
approach,
very
clear,
that's
a
paragraph
I
can
understand.
C
C
This
is
pretty
critical
to
being
able
to
explain
and
reach
out
to
the
public
and
to
council,
so
we
just
have
to
be
doing
better
about
making
clear.
What's
going
on,
I
had
a
similar
question
to
what
mark
had
not
quite
about
what
is
performance-based
pricing,
but
why
is
that
different
from
the
ongoing
quote?
Curbside
management
strategy
project?
C
It's
not
clear
to
me
why
all
these
different
things
have
different
names
and
are
different
initiatives
and
then,
when
I
did
go
through
and
look
at
the
amps
strategy
document
that
was
appended
at
the
end
and
it's
one.
I've
seen
before
right.
It's
pretty
old,
actually
it's
five
or
six
years
old
now,
and
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering,
based
on
like
what
the
progress
that
was
reported
in
2017-2018
when
that
was
finalized,
and
now
like
really
what
have
we
done.
C
That
seems
like
a
whole
lot
of
assessing
thinking
about
gathering
data
and
I'm
looking
at
what's
going
to
happen
here,
we're
still
assessing
talking
about
gathering
data,
doing
public
outreach.
When
are
we
going
to
stop
planning
to
plan
and
start
making
some
changes,
and
it's
just
not
at
all
clear
to
me
from
from
this
information
item
that
there's
a
whole
lot
of
action
and
a
whole
lot
of
change
is
going
to
happen.
C
I
think
my
final
question
was:
I
noted,
on
the
npp
item,
saying
the
next
steps
at
the
top
of
the
next
steps
on
ftp,
maintain
the
pause
on
new
npp
zone
requests.
C
I
know
that
tab
has
asked
that
those
new
requests
that
that
basically
there'd
be
no
new
npp
zones
established
while
we're
kind
of
reimagining
to
use
your
language
and
trying
to
figure
out
what
how
we're
going
to
reform
or
amend
the
npp.
But,
to
my
knowledge,
that's
never
been
that's
not
an
invitation.
That's
been
accepted,
we've
only
been
told
repeatedly.
Well,
there
are
no
pending
applications.
So
can
we
be
more
clear?
Is
there
actually
a
pause
on
considering
new
npps.
L
Yes,
there
is
a
pause
that
was
presented
as
part
of
the
the
approved
supported
strategies
by
council
moving
forward
into
2022,
as
we
seek
to
implement
the
priority-based
neighborhood
access
management
recommendations.
So
this
would
be
a
restructuring
of
the
mpp
program
that
identifies
a
number
of
key
performance
indicators
to
establish
what
the
the
benchmarks
are
for
some
sort
of
neighborhood
parking
management.
L
Maybe
not
the
blunt
force
tool
that
we've
currently
been
using,
but
other
approaches
to
mitigate
parking
challenges,
whether
it's
associated
with
high
activity,
trail
heads
or
spillover
from
our
commercial
districts,
just
identifying
that
there
might
be
other
ways
that
we
can
mitigate
some
of
the
parking
challenges
that
neighborhoods
are
experiencing.
L
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
guess
my
last
question
is
chris
jones.
I
know
you
weren't
here
and
haglin,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
were
on
at
the
time
or
not,
but
we
had
a
brief
discussion
about
my
and
ryan's
experience
attending
the
first
access
allies
meeting
last
month.
C
Maybe
in
november
I
forget
what
the
date
was,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
any
reaction,
if
you
had
had
a
chance
to
to
hear
our
discussion
on
that
and
if
you
did,
if
you
had
any
reaction,
it's
fine.
If
you
didn't.
H
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
taylor.
I
was
not
in
a
attendance,
I
did
hear
about
it
and
we
did
discuss
it
internally
about
how
we
can
improve
that
process,
and
you
know
we've
got
up-and-coming
access
allies
meeting
that
you
know
we
will
surely
address
your
concerns
with
that.
C
Yes,
next
week,
I
guess
my
question
I
mean
and
natalie-
and
I
spoke
briefly
about
it,
but
my
my
question
at
the
at
the
last
meeting
kind
of
was
like.
Why
are
we
doing
that
outreach,
particularly
the
amp
strategy
document?
From
you
know,
four
or
five
years
ago,
talks
about
extensive.
You
know
public
outreach
and
at
what
point
do
we
stop
soliciting
opinions
and
start
implementing
changes?
But
you
know
this
felt
like
another
iteration
of
a
process
that
has
taken
place
multiple
times
before
before,
and
it
just
never
seemed
to
lead
anywhere.
M
Hi
tila:
this
is
liv
liu
and
I
can
speak
a
bit
to
to
that
so
yeah
thanks
for
your
reflections
at
last
month's
meeting
and
we
are
going
to
use
them
to
inform
what
we
present
at
the
next
access
allies
meeting
regarding
both
kind
of
the
context
and
our
goals
and
recognizing
that
we're
not
reinventing
the
wheel
that
we're
building
off
our
both
our
existing
plans
and
really
so
like
the
tmp
and
amps
we're
going
to
make
explicit
how
our
goals
tie
to
those
and
also
to
your
question
about
like,
haven't.
M
We
already
done
the
outreach
on
this
we're
looking
at
it
slightly
differently
now,
by
really
fine-tuning
that
work.
So
specifically
for
curbside
and
really
thinking
about
implementation
and
through
this
process
we
do
anticipate
doing
some
pilot
projects
as
well
to
your
point
about.
When
are
we
going
to
do
something
we're
actually
going
to
try
to
we're
going
to
try
some
stuff
out
along
the
way
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
process,
with
the
curbside
management
we'll
have
our
our
guidebook
for
moving
forward
with
more
implementation?
C
The
part
that
I
heard
yes
thank
you,
I
dropped
entirely
off
and
had
to
rejoin.
Hopefully
it's
better
now,
but
thank
you
for
that
live.
E
N
Let
me
let
me
chime
in
and
hi
chris
I've
worked
with
you
before,
so
I
I'm
leveraging
that
perspective.
N
N
I
would
love
to
see
in
there
for
some
of
the
ones
where
we're
working
the
data
in
the
inside
something
like
what
you
just
said.
You
know
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
really
want
to
have
x
or
y,
so
that's
sort
of
a
processing
recommendation.
N
N
Some
of
which
were
like
the
the
civic
area
and
the
tdm
for
the
civic
area-
I
I
wasn't
clear
if
there's
anything
new
there
or
if
it's
just
we,
we
think
that
the
programs
might
might
work,
particularly
as
things
come
back
to
life
post
covid.
I'd
like
to
get
that
confirmed.
N
Then
then
there's
one
on
a
tdm
ordnance
that
it
sounded
like
it's
more
in
study
mode
right
now,
there's
one
on
changing
parking
codes
which
sounded
like
it
not
only
was
in
study
mode,
but
there
wasn't
anybody
available
to
study
it,
and
then
there
was
updating
fines
which
were
which
you
know
a
swipe
was
taken
at
it,
but
it
was
sort
of
done
for
now
and
then
there's
the
performance-based
pricing
that
that
mark
asked
about
which
sounded
like
it
was
pretty
active.
N
The
curbside
management,
which
you
just
mentioned,
which
sounds
like
it's
pretty
active,
and
I
know
the
tnm
folks
are
involved
in
that,
and
then
the
neighborhood
access
topic
that
we've
talked
about
quite
a
bit
is
a.
N
Is
that
the
list
and
and
b,
is
there
a
sense
of
priorities
among
those,
you
know
are
most
of
the
resources
going
to
one
or
two
of
those
or
I
I'm
not
sure
how
to
think
about
long
lists
like
that,
where
a
lot
of
it
is,
we
don't
really
have
something
big
we're
trying
to
get
done
this
year.
So
I'd
love
any
comments
you
have
on
that,
and
I
apologize.
Is
this
a
little
bit
repetitive
with
what
the
other
folks
asked
yeah.
H
Yeah
sure
I
can
start
off
and
address
some
of
those.
So
when
you
mention
the
civic
area
tdm,
you
know
this
is
something
that
we
put
in
place
years
ago,
we've
implemented.
It
was
very
successful.
H
Redid
parking
management
in
the
civic
area
and
at
the
library
institute
a
parking
cash
out
program
for
employees
very
successful.
That,
of
course,
was
interrupted
by
kovit
in
the
pandemic
and
and
essentially
most
of
those
employees
working
from
home.
So
we're
going
to
see
how
we
pivot,
you
know
once
we
start
transitioning
back
to
a
different
type
of
hybrid
work
environment.
H
H
I
have
word
from
planning
and
development
services.
They
issued
me
this
statement
on
the
parking
code
update
that
said
at
this
time,
the
parking
code
changes
for
private
part,
private
property
are
on
hold,
based
on
covid
staffing
reductions
and
the
loss
of
their
code
specialist.
H
They
anticipate
that
we'll
they
will
be
beginning
work
on
these
items.
In
the
third
quarter
of
2022,
assuming
that
council
does
not
reprioritize
their
work
program
later
this
month
at
the
retreat,
so
that
is
the
word
from
planning
and
development
services.
You
know
I
I
plan
on
working
on
the
tdm
plan,
ordinance
in
conjunction
with
that
parking
code,
update,
ask
was
request
by
council,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
that
moving.
H
You
know
later
this
year
you
know
curbside
management.
That
is
the
the
number
one
project
that
we're
working
on
right.
Now
that
is
going.
We
have
tab
members
on
the
access
allies,
which
you
know
you
know
that
they've
been
attending
so
that
that
is
the
big
project.
That's
moving
forward
chris,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
provide
an
update
on
on
the
implementation
of
those
other
ones.
H
L
So,
while
it's
chris
and
chris
coming
to
talk
to
you
about
amps,
there
are
so
many
different
folks
that
are
involved
in
taking
various
elements
of
amps
across
the
finish
line,
and
so,
while
curbside
management
is
a
top
priority
for
transportation
and
mobility
in
the
2022
work
plan
for
community
vitality,
I
mean
we
largely
are
involved
in
the
administration
of
of
parking
when
it
comes
to
enforcement
and
then
our
managed
districts
with
our
general
improvement
districts
and
partnering
as
key
subject
matter.
L
L
So
with
that,
I'm
really
glad
you
brought
up
the
graduated
fines
as
that's
major
progress
that
we
had
been
talking
about
for
a
long
time
that
effective
january
of
this
year
we
have
doubled
the
base,
fine
for
basic
parking
violations,
and
if
you
violate
multiple
times
it
graduates
to
forty
five
dollars
for
the
second
violation
and
sixty
dollars
for
the
third
violation
and
and
that's
a
big
change
from
how
we
had
been
enforcing
prior
to
this
year,
that
we
had
talked
a
lot
about
and
we've
made
that
change
it's
been
implemented.
L
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
performance-based
pricing
and
dynamic
pricing
on
street,
and
we
intend
to
make
progress
on
that
that
will
play
out
in
on
the
street,
in
partnership
with
transportation,
mobility
and
their
work
in
curbside
management
in
2023.
So
we
also
again
have
progress
anticipated
for
the
the
performance
or
sorry
priority-based
neighborhood
access
management,
which
will
get
a
much
better
name,
hopefully
by
the
time.
L
This
is
all
said
and
done
because
again
it's
it's
a
bulky
memo
that
I
I
understand
is
hard
to
digest,
because
a
number
of
contributors
from
a
number
of
different
departments
trying
to
come
together
in
one
voice
is
not
an
easy
task
and
if
we
could
have
and
had
the
capacity
to
spend
more
time
and
and
finesse
it
into
something,
that's
more
eloquent
we
would
have.
But
we
also
have
suffered
from
the
the
challenges
of
turnover
and
trying
to
keep
things
moving
forward
in
a
very
dynamic
time
where
it's
hard
to
predict.
L
What's
going
to
happen
tomorrow
and
how
that's
going
to
impact
our
work
plans,
and
so
we're
really
excited
about
the
things
that
we
we
have
ahead
of
us.
We
are
intending
to
make
additional
progress
and
we're
hoping
that
through
the
the
year
ahead
that
individual
project
managers
on
their
specific
projects
will
be
able
to
bring
some
meaningful
progress
to
you
all.
C
Thank
you,
chris.
That
was
very
good
question,
hutch
good.
That
was
very
useful.
I
thought
I
think
if
I
had
any
reaction
to
it,
chris
jones
just
said
it
would
be
less
attempts
of
being
eloquent
and
less
attempts
at
finessing.
I
think
that
it
in
places
it
felt
like
someone
was
like
okay.
How
else
can
we
say
this,
or
how
do
we
say
this
very
simple
thing
and
try
to
make
it
sound
fancier,
just
more
plain,
plain,
spook
and
plain
language
would
serve
us
all
better.
G
Super
quick,
I
concur
with
tila
and
ryan
and
I
would
simply
add
that
this
this
council,
in
communication
to
this
new
council
has
has
urged
two
messages
that
I've
received
from
them
are
be
bold
and
get
stuff
done,
and
I
think
that
simplicity
and
clarity
in
goals
and
mission
will
help
there.
I
know
you
guys
worked
incredibly
hard
on
this
and
I'm
I'm,
I'm
really
appreciative
of
you
know.
G
This
memo
took
a
lot
to
write
and
to
bring
together,
but-
and
I
know
that
we
have
to
honor
what
prior
councils
have
done
and
and
the
message
that
they
gave,
but
this
new
council
is
telling
us
to
be
bold
and
get
stuff
done,
and
I
I
like
that
message.
So
that's
what
I'm
going
to
conclude
on.
C
N
C
But
we
will
move
along
now
to
the
safe
streets,
boulder
report.
O
All
right
good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
devin
joslin,
I'm
the
principal
traffic
engineer
for
the
city
of
boulder
and
tonight
I'm
pleased
to
be
presenting
our
safe
streets
to
report
tonight
I'll
try
to
keep
this
presentation
fairly
brief,
hopefully
no
more
than
about
15
minutes
to
allow
for
plenty
of
time
for
discussion.
O
O
The
next
thing
is,
I
do
want
to
highlight
the
progress
and
the
vision,
zero
work
that
is
planned
in
2022
and
2023,
and
the
thing
to
emphasize
here
is
that
we
do
have
a
full
work
plan
that
will
continue
to
strive
to
address
crashes
in
the
areas
of
concern,
even
as
we
look
to
update
the
action
plan
and
finally
I'll
go
over
some
next
steps
related
to
both
the
safe
streets
report
and
the
vision,
zero
action
plan.
O
This
slide
details
some
key
points
about
the
contents
and
purpose
of
the
safe
streets
report.
It
also
points
out
what
the
report
is
and
is
not
intended
to
do.
The
key
things
the
safe
streets
report
allows
staff
to
do
is
to
understand
high-level
crash
trends
at
a
system
level,
compare
current
trends
to
historical
trends
and
explore
severe
crash
trends
in
more
detail.
O
The
report
sets
the
foundation
for
the
vision,
zero
action
plan,
update,
which
we
will
use
to
document,
identify
quantify
categorize
prioritize,
cost
out
and
track
progress
of
our
countermeasure
implementation.
O
O
This
slide
highlights
the
key
findings
and
trends
from
the
analyses
conducted
on
the
2018-2020
crash
data.
The
key
findings
remain
the
same
as
were
presented
to
you
in
november,
so
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
pointing
these
out
again,
but
I
do
want
to
talk
through
them
again.
Very
briefly.
Just
to
refresh
your
memory.
O
again
with
our
areas
of
concern,
those
have
largely
remained
the
same
crashes
involving
bicyclists
pedestrians,
speeding,
making
left
turns
and
older
adults
those
that
are
65
and
older.
These
have
a
much
higher
percentage
of
severe
crashes
compared
to
the
percentage
of
total
crashes
and
what
you
can
note
down
at
the
bottom.
There
is
that
most
of
our
severe
crashes
during
the
analysis
period
occurred
on
our
principal
and
minor
arterial
roadways,
65
percent
of
our
severe
crashes
on
arterial
roadways
and
those
make
up
about
16
16
percent
of
center
line
miles
within
the
city.
O
I
want
to
transition
now
to
walking
you
through
the
goals
and
proposed
approach
of
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
update
the
slide
highlights
the
four
goals
staff
has
identified
and
will
keep
in
mind
as
we
embark
on
the
action
plan
update.
O
Hopefully
these
are
are
written
pretty
clearly
and
it's
it's
just
four
things.
We
want
it
to
serve
as
a
playbook
to
achieving
vision,
zero.
We
want
to
seamlessly
integrate
it
into
our
departmental
work
plans.
We
want
to
allow
for
direct
and
candid
dialogue
with
tab
and
city
council,
and
we
want
to
assure
accountability
and
bold
thinking,
and
how
are
we
going
to
do
that?
O
We
want
to
assess
the
effectiveness
of
previously
deployed
countermeasures,
and
that
will
tell
us
you
know
where,
how
and
to
what
extent
tools
are
implemented
and
and
really
allow
us
to
take
away
the
ones
that
aren't
working
so
well
and
put
out
more
of
the
ones
that
are
working
well.
O
O
That
is
those
that
staff
feel
will
score
well
against
grant
selection
criteria
and
be
of
sustain
substantial
enough
value
to
make
going
through
the
grant,
application,
selection
and
administrative
processes
worthwhile.
We
also
want
to
be
strategic
about
the
grants
we
pursue
relative
to
the
urgency
of
the
need
for
implementing
the
project.
O
O
The
map
reflects
the
current
phase.
Each
project
is
in
this
year
the
safer
signals,
dr
cog,
rto
and
t
h-sip
and
other
signal
improvements
are
shown
with
a
combination
of
both
dots
and
specific
intersection.
Excuse
me
both
dots
at
specific,
intersections
and
lines,
showing
the
limits
of
corridors
where
signal
improvements
are
planned
again.
We
were
very
fortunate
to
receive
over
three
million
dollars
in
grants
to
make
these
signal
enhancements
over
the
next
few
years.
O
That
will
serve
to
improve
both
the
safety
and
efficiency
of
our
signal
system
and
just
wanted
to
note
that
nsm
key
and
other
city-wide
studies
and
evaluations
are
not
shown
on
the
map,
but
hopefully
this
map
is
a
way
to
bring
the
table.
That
was
in
your
packet.
O
O
The
30th
street
and
colorado
avenue,
underpass
and
protected
intersection
project
is
currently
under
construction.
Baseline,
road
and
canyon.
Creek
crossing
upgrades
will
be
designed
this
year
and
constructed
next
year
same
for
baseline
and
mohawk
lehigh,
safe
routes
to
school
construction
is
planned
to
begin
soon,
and
the
cmpi
grant
pedestrian
crossings
are
planned.
Construction
is
planned
to
begin
in
a
few
months
with
respect
to
people.
O
Bicycling
you'll
see
that
there
are
some
projects
that
overlap
and
are
anticipated
to
address
multiple
areas
of
concern,
but
on
this
slide
in
terms
of
the
projects
not
covered
on
the
prior
slide,
we
find
the
folsom
street
and
pine
street
intersection
improvements
which
are
planned
to
be
designed
this
year
and
constructed
next
year
and
the
30th
street
vertically
separated
by
clean
bike
lanes.
We
recently
kicked
off
the
design
phase
of
that
project
in
terms
of
people,
speeding,
four
main
projects
that
we
feel
will
address
this
area
of
concern.
O
We
have
the
cmpi
grant
speed,
limit,
setting
and
signing
framework
project
which
will
kick
off
middle
of
this
year
once
funding
becomes
available.
Nsnp
work
is,
of
course,
ongoing.
The
20
is
plenty
evaluation,
we're
aiming
to
provide
you
with
an
update
in
the
next
month
or
two
on
our
findings
from
the
evaluation
and
the
v-zip
evaluation.
O
We're
expecting
to
come
to
tab
in
may
to
present
that
to
you
in
terms
of
people
making
left
turns,
we
see,
you
know
six
projects
again
mostly
tied
to
those
signal,
improvements
that
are
planned
to
address
people
making
light
left
turns
and
those
will
be
designed
this
year
and
constructed
next
year,
but
really
all
in
all,
you
can
see
that
this
is
a
very
busy
year
in
terms
of
projects
both
in
the
design
and
construction
phases.
O
So
what
are
some
next
steps
for
the
safe
streets
report?
Four
main
things:
the
report
has
been
posted
on
the
city
website
and
we
plan
to
promote
that
via
social
media.
We
want
to
incorporate
your
feedback
that
you
give
us
tonight
to
revise
the
draft
before
we
present
it
to
city
council
on
february
15th.
O
O
We
really
are
collaborating,
and
we
want
to
talk
with
our
colleagues
in
industry,
both
in
public
and
private
sectors,
and
understand
how
other
agencies
have
undertaken
plans
of
this
scale
and
magnitude,
and
we
want
to
get
our
scope
of
work
drafted
and
identify
the
resource
needs
for
this
year,
and
we
want
to
continue
to
refine
our
approach
and
keep
advancing
the
project.
And
then,
of
course,
we
want
to
keep
you
informed
along
the
way.
O
C
Thank
you,
devon,
nice
use
of
the
slideshow,
I'm
going
to
add
in
a
third
question
or
preliminary
question
just
if
any
members
of
tab
have
clarifying
questions
first
before
we
start
giving
devon
and
other
staff
feedback.
This
would
be
a
good
time
to
ask
if
you
had
any
things
that
were
unclear
about
the
presentation,
the
approach
or
the
draft
that
you
wanted
to
ask.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions?
First,
before
we
start
giving
feedback.
C
N
Quickly,
the
crash
location
stuff
has
has
intrigued
me,
and
I
think
I
asked
a
related
clarifying
question
last
time,
which
is
of
course
we're
in
the
context
of
vision.
Zero.
So
you
know
no
severe
crashes
are
good,
but
I
don't
have
the
background
to
say
whether
these
numbers
of
severe
crashes
in
this
many
miles
of
this
sort
of
road
is,
is
good
or
bad
or
this
or
that
do
you
and
and
this
isn't
something
that
has
to
be
in
the
report.
But
I
know
that
question
comes
up
to
me.
N
O
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
observation
hutch,
and
that
is
something
that
the
the
action
plan
will
dive
into
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
again.
The
safe
streets
report
really
just
kind
of
provides
the
high
level
summary
or
trend
comparisons
between
three
year
periods
and
really
within
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
and
the
more
detailed
analyses
we
plan
to
do.
O
F
Devin
thanks
a
very,
very
attractive
report.
I
guess
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
got
this
right.
I
my
impression
is
from
your
presentation
that
both
today-
and
I
think
I've
kind
of
in
the
past
gotten
this
impression
that
the
vision,
zero
plan,
the
plan
forward
is-
is
really
based
on
observed
crashes,
that
have
happened
and,
and
it's
not
and
there's,
there's
not
a
part
of
it.
F
That's
like
looking
at
the
probabilistic
what
we
would
expect
looking
using
some
first
principles
to
say
well,
because
these
conditions
exist
inherently
in
this
place
or
that
place
this
is
this
is
a
you
know,
some
area
that
needs
mitigation.
It's
really
just
based.
It's
just
a
function
of
historical
crash
date.
Do
I
do
I
have
that?
Am
I
anywhere
close.
O
I,
I
would
say,
ryan,
honestly,
you
you
are
slightly
slightly
incorrect,
so
boulder
is
fortunate
in
that
largely
from
the
work
of
the
prior
safe
streets
report,
we
were
able
to
address
many
of
the
locations
with
known
and
identified
crash
issues,
and
those
are
the
locations
where
we,
you
know,
reactively
installed
something
to
address
the
crashes
at
a
location,
and
we
are
now
at
the
point
where
we
don't
necessarily
have
locations.
I
guess
to
hutch's
earlier
point
where
we
see
really
a
pattern
or
higher
than
expected
numbers
of
crashes.
O
So
we
are
moving
into
a
much
more
proactive
approach
whereby
we
are
going
to
do
some
of
those
things
that
you
mentioned.
We
will
look
at
you
know
different
features
of
the
roadway
and
different
things
that
may
lead
to
future
crashes
and
then
proactively
deploy
a
strategy
to
address
them,
hopefully
before
they
happen.
F
O
I
think
some
of
that
content
was
contained
in
the
memo
we
we
did
refer
to
what's
known
in
the
industry
as
the
the
safe
systems
approach
and
really
an
approach
that
brings
together
a
number
of
factors,
all
working
in
unison,
to
really
provide
redundancy
and
effectiveness
across
the
system
to
provide.
O
You
know
a
safety
net
in
case
people
make
mistakes
because
they
will-
and
you
know
we
want
our
system
to
be
designed
in
a
way
such
that
when
mistakes
are
made,
the
system
has
a
way
of
kind
of
being
forgiving
and
addressing
that
such
that
people
may
not
be
injured
severely
or
lose
their
life,
and
I
think
we
also
spoke
to
it
to
a
certain
extent.
C
Okay,
thanks:
several
of
us
were
around
thanks,
devin
for
that
for
moving
us
to
the
other
format.
Several
of
us
were
around
for
the
last
safe
streets
report.
That
is
where
the
existing
and
current
vision
zero
action
plan.
Is
it's
a
50
item
list,
so
it
wasn't
entirely
clear
in
the
materials
and
ryan.
I'm
not
sure
if
you,
if
you
found
it
when
you
were
kind
of
going
through
the
existing
stuff,
but
that's
what
the
existing
plan
is
that
they're
going
to
update.
C
It
sounds
like
taking
a
very
different
approach
in
this
next
iteration,
which
is
probably
a
good
good
step,
but
I
would
because
some
of
us
have
been
through
this
before
I
kind
of
want
to
start
with
feedback
from
the
the
more
senior
members
of
tab
about
the
this
new
approach,
this
this
iteration
of
the
safe
streets
report
so
alex
or
mark.
C
I
would
invite
you
to
go
first
with
any
feedback
that
you
have
for
for
the
team
and
then
I'll
circle
back
to
ryan
and
hutch
and
I'll
go
last
alex
go
ahead.
J
Sure,
thanks
for
the
presentation,
dev-
and
this
is
one
of
my
favorite
things
that
the
city
produces,
I
think
it's
really
cost
effective
and
looking
at
the
system
as
a
whole
allows
us
to
detect
things
like
the
severity
and
impact
of
the
left
ones
that
we
see
throughout
our
community.
It
identifies
things
like
one
of
my
favorite
stats.
J
I
think,
as
we
look
forward
to
the
action
plan
and
it's
unclear
if
we're
gonna,
look
at
really
site-specific
areas,
but
I
would
I
would
like
us
to.
G
I
do
the
first
is
I
I
really
appreciate
this
this
version
of
the
report.
I
find
it
clear,
friendly,
understandable
and
so
a
kind
of
a
model
for
what
we
could.
You
know
if
someone
from
the
public
or
from
council
picked
that
up
and
started
to
read
it.
I
think
they
would
be
able
to
glean
a
lot
of
information
with
ease
from
it.
So
I'm
appreciative
of
that.
G
I
think
it's
much
better
than
the
than
the
version
that
was
presented
just
a
couple
months
ago.
It
in
fact
it's
so
informative
that
it's
like
it
raised
some
kind
of
big
questions
for
me
and
not
in
a
negative
way,
but
just
is
vision.
Zero.
So
first
question
is
vision,
zero,
a
line
item
in
our
budget,
or
is
it
a
sub
wine
item
of
many
line
items
in
our
budget,
or
is
it
not
there
at
all,
because
it's
so
integrated
into
each
of
the
things
that
we
do
it's
it?
O
I
think
within
transportation
operations
we
do
have
a
line
item
that
is,
I
would
say,
geared
toward
vision,
zero.
But
then,
as
you
reference,
there
are
many
projects
and
programs
that
have
a
vision,
zero
aspect
to
them
that
are
all
linked
together
under
you
know,
separate
budgets,
and
I
see
garrett
his
is
come
on
garrett.
Do
you
want
to
chime
in.
P
Yeah
garrett
slater
principal
transportation
projects
engineer,
and
I
just
wanted
to
add,
in
addition
to
devin's
remarks,
that
we
have
line
items
within
the
capital
improvement
program
specifically
identified
for
vision,
zero
enhancements
and
implementation
and,
furthermore,
to
I
guess,
to
respond
directly
to
your
your
comment
mark.
P
I
would
say
that
each
and
every
one
of
our
capital
projects
endeavors
to
integrate
division,
zero
into
what
we're
doing
such
that
it's
it's
it's
sort
of
just
occurring
organically
and
not
sort
of
a
bolt-on
effort,
but
it's
it's
integral
to
the
work.
That's
taking
place.
G
That
that's
the
answer
I
was
kind
of
hoping
for
on
on
one
hand,
that's
what
I
hoped
for.
On
the
other
hand,
you
know
it's
always
nice
to
be
able
to
say
hey.
We
spent
this
much
money
on
this
activity,
but
yeah.
If,
if
we're
doing
things
right,
then
it
should
be
in
a
portion
of
every
everything
we
do.
G
I
just
have
a
couple
quick
questions
on
the
table
on
a
couple
items
on
the
table
that
interested
me,
and
that
was
the
base,
the
baseline
and
canyon
creek
pedestrian
signal.
Where
we're
we
will
be
removing
the
the
yellow
flashing
beacons
and
we
will
be
replacing
it
with
a
pedestrian
signal.
G
I'm
curious,
if
you
can
describe
that
a
little
bit
or
point
to
another
location
where
we
have
a
strictly
pedestrian
signal
and
yeah
so
anyway,
and
what
determined
that
at
that
location,
we
were
going
to
get
rid
of
the
rrfbs.
O
Sure
so
I
think
I
think
it
is
noted
on
the
maps
within
the
safe
streets
report,
but
we've
known
that
the
rrfb
at
baseline
and
canyon
creek.
There
has
been
a
severe
crashed
trend
that
presented
itself
at
that
location
and
it
was
attributed
to
to
some
extent.
I
would
say
to
the
way
the
rrfp
operates,
and
you
know
perhaps
from
both
parties
the
entering
pedestrian
or
cyclists,
as
well
as
the
motorists
kind
of
this
inability
to
work
together.
O
But
an
example.
You
know
of
a
full
pedestrian
signal
that
I
can
think
of
that
came
to
mind
right
away
was
along
arapahoe
just
to
the
west
of
22nd
street
there
at
the
naropa
campus.
That
is
a
full
pedestrian
signal
kind
of
located
mid-block
intended
to
serve
pedestrian
crossings.
G
And
how
does
that
sort
of
crossing
treatment
compare
in
cost
to
an
rrfb,
a
a
well
yeah,
an
rfb
equipped
crossing.
O
You
know
garrett
might
be
more
in
tune
with
the
costs
than
me,
but
I
I
believe
it's
around
probably
two
or
three
times
the
cost
of
an
rrfb,
and
I
I
can't
recall
off
the
top
of
my
head.
What
the
amount
of
the
grant
was
that
we
were
awarded
to
complete
that
work.
There.
G
Okay,
all
right
last
last
question
this
kind
of
goes
back
to
my
budget
question
and
in
looking
at
the
report,
you
guys
had
noted
projects
that
were
built
in
2020
through
2020
and
2021,
and
that
was
a
nice
group
of
projects.
G
In
2019
the
department
was
awarded
700,
approximately
700
000,
as
a
one-time
vision,
zero
grant
back
in
may
and
the
allocation
of
that
those
that
one
time
seven
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
which
came
from
council
to
us
because
they
killed
an
entirely
unrelated
project
and
they
the
doors
on
the
east
side
of
the
city
building
anyway,
staff
came
to
tab
and
with
a
proposed
allocation,
tab
provided
some
feedback
and
that
that
was
the
end
of
it
sort
of
anyway.
G
My
question
is:
is
how
did
we
spend
that
seven
that
one
time
700
000
grant
from
council
and
devon?
I
know
this
is
before
your
time,
but
these
are.
It
might
have
been
projects
that
were
constructed
during
their
time,
but
I'm
sure
garrett
might
be
able
to
help
out
with
this.
Q
I
I'll
chime
in
here
mark.
I
think
we
we
can
provide
that
information.
I
don't
have
it
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
I'm
not
sure
that
the
team
does.
I
know
a
few
pots
that
we
spent
that
which
projects
we
spent
that
on,
but
I
don't
have
the
total
number,
but
we
can
get
that
and
send
it
to
you.
That'd
be
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Thanks
alex
thanks
mark
brian,
do
you
have
any
feedback
on
these
items.
F
Thanks
tila
a
couple
just
a
couple:
questions
devin,
first,
okay,
so
I
am
thinking
about
the
school
system.
Bbsd
has
they
have
a
safe
routes
to
school
program?
It's
a
publicly
sponsored
overseeing
initiative,
and
I
don't
know
of
any
other
programs
like
that.
So
it
seems
like
that
really
stands
out
as
a
kind
of
a
you
know,
non-transportation
department,
safe
routes
initiative.
F
O
I
think
that's
generally
correct,
I
mean
we
do
have
a
program
that
looks
at
missing,
sidewalk
links
as
well
trying
to
make
those
connections
where
necessary
and
garrett.
I
saw
you
you
unmuted
did
you
have
something
to
add
as
well.
P
Right,
I
wanted
to
note
that
the
safe
routes
to
school
program
is
actually
made
possible
by
the
colorado
department
of
transportation
or
cdot
it
prior
to
that
was
a
federal
program,
but
those
funds
were
eliminated
and
the
state
saw
value
and
continuing
and
then
have
outlined
that
as
a
budget
item
over
the
last
five
or
six
years,
and
so
communities
and
school
districts
are
able
to
compete
for
the
safe
roster
school
grants.
P
The
school
district
does
have
a
safe
routes
to
school
coordinator
with
which
and
who,
with
whom
we
coordinate
on
the
applications
that
the
city
carries
forward
for
implementation,
and
so
I
guess
specifically
to
your
question
about
there
being
similar
opportunities
out
there
in
terms
of
grants.
The
highway
safety
improvement
program
that
is,
funding
a
number
of
these,
the
the
vision,
zero
enhancements,
as
well
as
the
the
the
safer
main
streets,
opportunities
and
revitalizing
main
streets
opportunities
that
the
state
has
provided
is
another
example
of
that
and
then
there's
also
another
program.
P
The
state
has
called
transportation
alternative
programs
that
are
all
geared
toward
improving
bicycle
and
pedestrian
safety.
F
Got
it
okay
thanks,
so
thank
you
for
that
and
that
was
kind
of
a
lead
up
to
my
the
direct
question,
which
is,
I
was
thinking
that
as
far
as
existing
local
initiatives
for
under
the
city
or
the
or
the
county
that
this
bvsd
is
really
one
of
the
the
big
ones.
Is
there
anything
in
this
is:
is
there
any
coordination
or
engagement?
You
know
with
the
district
through
that
program,
with
respect
to
what
what
what
their
needs
are.
E
O
I
would
say
we
have
you
know:
regular
coordination
with
bbsd
transportation
operations,
staff
and
planning
staff
does
have
a
regular
standing
meeting
with
pvsd
representatives
wherein
we
go
over.
You
know
identified
issues
within
the
district
related
to
transportation.
F
Okay,
so
it
showed
that's
the
way
that
it
shows
up
is
more
of
a
sort
of
integrated
organic
okay.
Thanks
for
that,
my
one
other
question
is
top
of
mind
now,
because
it's
winter
time
and
snowy
and
icy
out,
but
when
I
look
at
the
framework
here
thinking
you
know,
just
top
of
mind
is:
is
is
snow
and
ice
removal
and,
and
anyway,
I'm
just
curious
from
like
a
priority
standpoint.
How
important
is
the
is
opera,
winter
operations
of
snow
and
ice
removal
to
this
is.
M
F
O
I
O
And
either
frequent
spinouts
or
an
inability
to
start
up-
or
you
know
things
of
that
nature-
I
mean
the
hill
at
broadway
near
linden,
I
think,
is
one
example
where
we've
made
some
changes
there
during
snow
and
ice
events
that
signal
at
lyndon,
I
think,
is
put
into
flash
and
it
flashes
yellow
on
broadway
and
red
on
linden,
and
that
was
a
change
that
was
made
to
allow
south
boundaries
on
broadway.
You
know
they
don't
have
to
stop
at
the
signal
they're
coming
down
the
hill,
so
there.
O
That
is
something
that
I
would
say
is
considered,
although
probably
somewhat
indirectly,
only
in
the
way
that
we
would
look
at
a
crash
pattern
and
attribute
it
to
snow
and
ice
in
some
way.
F
O
You
know
that
that
might
honestly
fall
somewhat
outside
of
the
four
e's.
I
think
there's
another
category,
sometimes
in
vision,
zero
plans-
that's
referred
to
as
programmatic,
and
I
think
that
that
would
be.
You
know
something
of
how
we
structure
our
programs
and
and
run
them
and
fund
them
in
the
most
efficient
way
possible.
Okay,.
F
Okay,
yeah
thanks
thanks
for
that
devin
and
garrett.
I
don't
have
anything
else
other
than
to
say
I
know,
there's
a
topic
that
mark
has
talked
about
in
the
summer
time,
I'm
glad
that
he
has
and
for
now
for
me
it's
top
of
mind,
but
just
to
say
that
it
does
seem
like
from
a
probabilistic
standpoint
that
yeah
stone
ice
removal
is
pretty
pretty
important
for
this.
I'm
sure
there's
not
any
high
profile.
You
know
recent
crashes
to
talk
about,
but
gosh,
it's
sure
slick
out
there.
So.
O
Yeah-
and
I
will
say
that,
certainly
with
the
vision,
zero
innovation
program-
and
I
know
you
know
with
any
design
that
we
look
at
for
projects-
we
do
have
close
coordination
with
our
transportation
maintenance
team,
as
well
as
our
fire
department
to
ensure
that
the
design
is
not.
You
know
getting
in
the
way
of
what
they
need
to
do.
That
area.
C
C
Nope,
we'll
move
along.
Are
you
having
trouble
on
the
okay
we'll
move
along?
I
have
very
little
feedback,
but
I
do
have
some.
As
I
mentioned,
I'm
discerning
that
you're
gonna
kind
of
start
fresh
with
fresh
eyes
on
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
and
I
think
that's
good.
I
think
we
did
the
best
we
could
with
what
limited
time
we
had
what
resources
we
had
last
time
it
ended
up
being
a
bit
of
a
laundry
list.
C
I
think
we
cut
it
down
from
55
sort
of
wish
list
items
down
to
50.,
but
definitely
with
you
know
a
few
years
of
seeing
how
that
works.
In
practice,
I'm
excited
to
see
what
the
what
the
new
action
plan
might
look
like.
One
thing
that
sort
of
raised
some
antenna
for
me
on
the
plans
for
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
was
to
include
an
estimated
cost
section
and
I
believe
in
the
memo
you
described,
that
that
was
sort
of
to
make
sure
that
we're
pursuing
adequate
funding.
C
I
know
that
every
year
we
don't
have
enough
money
to
do
everything
we
want.
You
know
if
the
fairy
godmother
came
in
and
gave
us
all
the
all
the
money
in
the
entire
city
budget.
We
still
wouldn't
be
able
to
fund
everything
on
the
vision,
zero
action
plan,
but
at
the
same
time,
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
letting
you
know
big
ticket
items
displace
high
high
value,
lower
cost,
more
efficient
items.
C
Estimated
costs-
and
it
might
just
be
very
vague-
you
know
like
one
out
of
five
dollar
signs
or
something
for
you-
know
something's
going
to
be
an
order
of
magnitude
more
expensive
than
some
other
treatment,
but
would
caution
us
to
not
spend
too
much
time
and
effort
trying
to
quantify
that?
It's
similar
to
the
2019
report?
There
was
an
economic
impact
of
crash's
graphic
in
this
draft,
which
I
always
try
to
point
out.
C
I
think
that
that's
not
a
subject
that
we
discuss
as
forthrightly
as
we
could
and
should
be,
but
every
time
we're
talking
about
how
much
something
costs
we
are
generally
leaving
out
how
much
it
costs
to
do
nothing.
We
have
far
fewer
costs
in
this
reporting
period
than
the
last
period,
yet
the
total
cost
societal
costs
of
of
these
crashes
and
serious
injuries
is
substantial.
It's
a
significant
line
item.
C
If
we
could
just
un
get
all
of
that
money
back
and
put
it
towards
some
of
these
crash
mitigation
and
crash
avoidance
efforts,
we
would
you
know,
be
coming
out
ahead
and
so
in
our
conversations
and
seeking
additional
funding
in
budget-
and
you
know,
departmental
horse
trading-
bear
in
mind
that
the
cost
of
doing
nothing
is
not
zero.
So,
and
I
think
that
this
this
report
makes
a
very
good
case
for
that,
a
couple
of
specific
things
on
the
draft,
the
infographics
on
evaluating
what
has
been
done
to
date.
C
C
I
I
just
I
didn't
find
them
very
helpful,
because
I
kind
of
looked
at
this
for
a
while,
and
I
still
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
supposed
to
be
telling
me.
It's
certainly
not
helping
me
prioritize
or
make
much
sense,
and
then
some
of
these
line
items
have
nothing
on
them.
There
must
have
been
a
pedestrian
or
something
I
don't
really
understand
what
those
graphics
are
doing.
C
In
general,
I
was
a
little
disappointed
at
how
dense
the
text
was
on
some
of
these
pages.
I
do
think
I'm
you
know
I
like
looking
at
the
stuff
I
like
reading
it.
I
find
it
very
interesting,
but
to
the
average
person
and
perhaps
to
the
average
city
council
member,
it
might
be
a
little
too
much
information.
C
I
think
that
the
pages
like
pages
14
and
15
the
maps
are
a
little
small,
but
in
general
the
clarity
of
the
graphics
are
pretty
good
and
pretty
self-explanatory,
and
we
could
definitely
do
some
work.
It's
not
on
the
same
scale
at
all
as
what
I
was
critiquing
the
the
amps
memo
on.
But
there
are
a
number
of
places
like
on
page
1415,
the
all
the
text
in
the
yellow
that
can
really
get
simplified
and
cut
down.
C
If
there's
time
and
if
you're
interested,
I
would
love
to
get
a
copy.
A
paper
copy
and
I'm
happy
to
mark
this
up
and
live-
has
seen
me
do
this
before
and
probably
will
tell
you
don't
let
her
do
that.
If,
if
there's
interest
in
having
me,
you
know
suggest
places
to
slash
and
cut,
I'm
usually
pretty
good
at
editing,
and
I
would
be
happy
to
give
this
a
shot
and
I
could
get
it
to
you
within
a
week.
I
think
so.
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
just
do.
C
Let
me
know
if
you
would,
like
any.
You
know
more
specific
impact
on
our
input
on
that,
and
I
think
the
last
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
was
of
substance.
I
liked
how
you
changed
the
treatment
on
people
ages,
65
and
older
in
general.
Some
of
this
extra
verbiage
is
to
adjust
to
sort
of
industry
practices
about
non-weighted
and
non-ableist
language.
I
think
you've
done
a
fantastic
job
in
general,
at
sort
of
making
this
very
current
and
expressive
and
even-handed.
C
The
one
place
that
I,
as
I
said
of
substance,
is
on
top
of
page
26
and
27
the
other
areas
of
concern.
The
only
thing
that
jumped
out
at
me
was
the
top
sentence
that
says.
Other
areas
of
concern
are
largely
addressed
through
specific
education
efforts
and
that
raised
question
for
me,
because
this
is
supposed
to
be
just
the
data.
This
is
just
the
facts.
Ma'am
and
this
document's
not
supposed
to
be
saying
here-
are
the
appropriate
mitigation
measures
in
general,
I'm
much
bigger,
I'm
a
much
bigger
fan
of
engineering,
first
enforcement.
C
Second
education
way.
Last
I
mean
especially
when
the
people
ages
15
to
19
and
people
ages,
20
to
29.
Those
are
all
still
students
like
we're
actively
educating
them,
they're
still
in
the
education
system.
So
I
I
would
just
hesitate
concluding
that
education
is
the
best
way
to
mitigate
these.
I
would
say
I
would
rephrase
this
particular
page
and
identifying
these
areas
of
concern
as
to
say
that
these
are
areas
where
certain
identifiable
segments
of
the
population
are
still
over
represented
in
severe
crashes,
or
you
know,
they're
they're,
bearing.
I
C
The
the
the
risk
is
unfairly
distributed
onto
them,
as,
as
evidenced
by
the
crash
something
along
those
lines.
I
did
not
say
that
very
clearly
do
a
better
job
than
I
just
did,
but.
C
Page
that
really
jumped
out
at
me,
like
whoa
gotta,
be
careful
here.
I
like
the
treatment
of
the
other
vision,
zero
objectives
at
the
end
yeah
and
in
general
I
think
it's
pretty
great.
It
was
like,
I
said,
a
little
text
heavy
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
this
informs
the
action
plan,
but
so
far
really
really
great
job,
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
you.
C
Excellent,
okay,
we
will
move
along
then
we
are
a
little
behind,
but
not
too
bad
thanks,
devin
and
team
for
all
this
work.
I
agree
with
alex
it's
one
of
my
it's
just
one
of
the
more
interesting
things
that
comes
out
of
the
transportation
department
and
good,
just
good
to
see.
C
Okay
we're
going
to
carry
on.
Then
we
are
now
at
item
seven
on
the
agenda
staff
briefing,
tab
feedback
on
30th
in
colorado,.
R
Hi
tab:
my
name
is
ryan
knowles,
I'm
a
senior
transportation
planner
here
at
the
city
of
boulder,
and
this
evening
I'm
just
going
to
highlight
two
projects
that
we
recently
kicked
off
and
their
relationship
to
the
30th
and
colorado
corridor
study
which
we
have
been
implementing
over
the
past
several
years.
R
So
really
again,
we
are
focusing
on
implementing
the
recommendations
from
the
30th
and
colorado
corridor
study
and
so
the
two
projects
we
recently
kicked
off
in
december
of
last
year,
I
should
say,
is
28th
street
in
colorado.
Avenue
intersection,
which
you
can
see
is
the
star
in
the
intersection
on
the
map
to
the
right
and
then
the
30th
street
corridor
improvements.
R
So,
in
addition
to
the
two
projects
we
just
kicked
off,
we
have
another
project
at
third,
thirty
or
just
east
of
33rd
street
and
colorado
avenue,
which
is
going
to
be
funded
through
a
cmpi
grant
from
dr
cog
and
that
will
be
an
enhanced
pedestrian
crossing.
R
So,
just
to
recap
on
the
30th
in
colorado
corridor
study,
so
this
study
was
completed
in
2018
and
accepted
by
city
council
in
2019.
R
It
was
a
very
thorough
process
that
we
went
through
to
develop
the
study
which
ultimately
we're
pulling
these
projects
from
and
implementing
systematically
in
the
corridors,
and
it
was
an
involved
level
engagement
as
identified
in
our
strategic
engagement
framework
and
what
that
means
is
really
we
worked
hand
in
glove
with
the
community
to
develop
options.
R
So,
just
to
put
a
little
bit
of
a
finer
point
on
that,
for
example,
on
a
colorado
avenue,
you
can
see
the
alternatives
that
we
assessed
through
the
study
before
you
and
so
ultimately,
through
our
evaluation
and
analysis
of
the
options
and
with
the
community
engagement
process,
we
landed
on
option
number
one,
which
really
is
the
the
alternative
that
we
are
moving
forward
with
along
colorado
avenue.
R
So
there's
a
variation
of
what
you
see
in
the
the
top
right
section
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
slide
on
the
south
side
of
colorado
avenue
between
regent
and
20th
today,
and
that's
really
what
we're
focusing
on
building
between
30th
and
28th
in
the
future
and
as
part
of
this
28th
street
and
colorado
avenue
intersection
project.
We
just
kicked
off.
R
And
so
that
intersection
project
will
look
like
this.
So
this
is
an
updated
graphic
based
on
the
alternative
that
was
designed
at
the
conceptual
level
through
through
the
30th
and
colorado
corridor
study,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
updated
the
alignment
of
the
colorado
regent
in
the
yellow
at
the
bottom
of
the
graphic,
but
again
really
focusing
on
building
raised
protected
bike
lanes,
a
protected
intersection
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians.
R
The
the
bat
lanes
for
transit
going
east
and
westbound
and
then
left
turn.
I
R
I
R
R
We've
also
been
referring
to
this
project
as
the
30th
street
bike
liens
project,
and
so
again
this
is
one
we
picked
directly
from
that
30th
and
colorado
corridor
study
and
again,
through
the
engagement
process,
we
evaluated
a
number
of
alternatives
with
a
community
working
group
and
our
stakeholders,
the
public
and
ultimately
landed
on
a
combination
of
options,
5a
and
option
3,
which
is
a
race
protected
bike
lanes
with
with
a
landscaping
element,
and
so
the
design
that
we
are
taking
to
further
engineering
and
and
design
is
a
variation
on
what
you
see
before
you.
R
So
this
is
evolving.
There
are
some
challenges
with
the
alignment
through
scott
carpenter
park,
and
so
we
are
working
on
the
the
engineering
side
of
that,
but
again,
really
that
that
alternative
that
we
developed
through
the
process
is
what
what's
informing
what
we
are
building
and
so
again
raised
and
protected
bike
lanes.
R
So
just
a
quick
overview
of
the
budget
for
these
two
projects.
So
again,
we've
been
very
successful
in
securing
federal
and
state
grants
for
these
projects,
and
so
you
can
see
the
majority
for
the
28th
street
and
colorado
avenue
intersection,
as
well
as
the
38th
street
corridor.
Improvements
is
coming
from
external
sources
in
the
city
is
participating
significantly,
but
but
we're
really
able
to
leverage
our
local
funds
to
build
larger
projects
with
the
federal
and
state
funding
that
we've
secured.
R
So
for
community
engagement
moving
forward
because
the
colorado,
30th
and
colorado
corridor
study
was
an
involved
level
of
engagement
to
develop
the
conceptual
designs
through
the
refinement
of
those
designs.
We're
going
to
operate
at
the
inform
level
of
the
engage
engagement,
strategic
framework,
which
means
that
we
will
make
decisions
based
on
technical
analysis
and
we'll
communicate
those
decisions
with
our
stakeholders
with
tab
with
the
community
and
and
discuss
why
we've
arrived
at
those
decisions
as
needed.
R
R
We're
asking
you
for
your
feedback
and
guidance,
and
then
we
will
also
hold
a
public
information
session
where
we
can
explain
the
projects
and
and
where
they're
coming
from
and
how
we're
moving
forward
with
the
community
and
answer
any
questions
they
may
have
and
then
we'll
be
doing.
Some
targeted
stakeholder
engagement,
as
well
as
including
information
about
the
projects
online
through
project
web
pages
and
the
city's
website.
R
So
the
timeline
for
these
two
projects
again
so
kick
these
off
at
the
beginning
of
december
of
last
year,
and
after
this
evening
we
will
be
doing
our
engagement
process,
which
will
include
speaking
with
community
cycles
and
other
stakeholders,
as
well
as
having
that
public
information
session.
R
We
will
return
to
tab
in
the
summer
of
this
year
and
then
in
fall.
We
will
also
return
to
tab,
which
I
did
not
include
on
this-
this
little
dot
here.
So
sorry
about
that.
But
we
will
return
to
tab
in
the
fall
before
finalizing
the
design
and
receiving
concurrence
from
cdot
with
the
goal
of
construction
in
2023.
R
And
I
take
any
questions
or
feedback
that
you
have.
J
J
J
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
feedback,
one
understanding
that
the
figures
developed
for
the
30th
and
colorado
corridor
studies
were
conceptual
as
we
refine
the
design.
One
suggestion
I
have
pertains
to
the
application
of
pavement
markings
on
the
roadway
to
communicate
where
buses
are
allowed
and
where
cars
are
allowed.
J
We
have
no
red
paint
and
that
way
it's
really
communicated
to
a
driver
that
that's
an
acceptable
place
and
then
maybe,
along
a
stretch
of
roadway
where
there's
there
are
no
conflicts
or
places
where
no
access
points
are
a
place
where
a
car
should
be
that's
when
you
use
solid
and
then
places
where
it's
acceptable.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
any,
maybe
the
the
eastbound
colorado
approaching
28th,
where
we're
asking
a
car
to
cross
that
bus
lane.
That's
where
we
used
a
dashed
application.
J
I
couldn't
quite
pick
out
a
consistent
logic
and
they
exist
in
the
proposed
plants.
I
understand
those
were
just
conceptual,
but
what
would
what
put
my
support
behind
that
sort
of
approach
as
as
refinement
happens,
and
then
I
think
a
little
bit
outside
of
the
what
you
presented
tonight
but
applicable
to
what
the
city
is
currently
doing
is
I
would
love
to
see
the
continuation
of
these
improvements.
J
So
as
we
look
at
this
upcoming
tip
cycle,
I
would
especially
like
to
see
the
southern
portion
of
30th
be
a
potential
project
which
could
then
connect
to
maybe
some
pmp
improvements
on
baseline.
Then
on
30th
you
get
from
baseline
to
colorado
on
colorado.
We
could
make
some
improvements
and
then
all
of
wholesome
between
this
year,
and
maybe
the
upcoming
year
or
two-
are
going
to
go
through
the
pmp
improvement
process.
J
G
I
actually
have
a
couple
questions
on
the
the
the
slide:
the
30th
and
colorado
corridor
improvements,
but
they're
kind
of
detailing
and
ryan.
I
I
would
be
happy
to
discuss
this
with
you
offline
if
we
want
to
keep
going
with
the
meeting
or
I
can
start
asking
them
now,
if,
if
other
members
are
interested-
but
I
don't
want
to
bog
us
down
with
some
of
this
stuff
if
it
seems
too
detaily.
C
So
I
guess
I
would
just
question
that
you
know
alex
has
noted
you
know
what
we've
been
looking
at
is
mostly
conceptual
we're,
not
a
design.
But
if
there's
like
big
picture
design,
don't
forget
this
group
of
people
kind
of
saying
feedback.
I
think
that's
perfectly
fine
to
air
right
now.
That's
that's!
What
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
at
the
tab
meeting.
G
Okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
the
entrances
and
access
to
scott
carpenter
park
and
the
cu,
research,
labs
and
marine
street
and
I'm
wondering
about
vehicle
counts
going
in
and
out
of
of
all
of
those.
G
I
I
I
am
in
favor
of
it's
just
it's
a
there
are
other
areas
in
the
in
the
city
where
we've
done
where
we've
treated
these
sorts
of
intersections
very
differently
and-
and
I
I
actually
like
what
I'm
seeing
here-
I
I
think
the
entrance
into
scott
carpenter,
the
in
the
top
center-
is
that
the
is
am
I
missing
an
entrance,
or
what
am
I
seeing
to
the
south
of
that
center
entrance
there?
What
I'm
not
sure
I
understand
that.
R
So
the
this
entrance
here
yeah
is
the
so
it's
an
it's
an
entry
in
and
exit
out
over
here.
Okay,
so
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
we
have
even
touched
that
topic.
Yet
if
we
would
be
changing
that
condition
or
not,
that
would
be
something
I
think
we
would
need
to
talk
to
parks
and
rec
about,
but
yeah
yeah.
So
this
is
a.
This
is
basically
a
you
enter
here
and
then
you
exit
over
here.
R
G
All
right,
you
know
I
I
I'm
going
to
get
into
turn,
radiuses
and
vehicle
counts
and
stuff
I'm
just
going
to
take
it
offline.
I
would
like
to
talk
to
you
at
another
time
about
that.
Okay,.
C
All
right,
thanks
mark
is
that
it
okay
great,
I
just
had
one
bit
of
feedback
and
it
was
just
about
the
same
place
that
mark
was
looking
at.
I
was
it's.
It
has
struck
me.
C
We
haven't
had
serious
flood
events
too
badly
in
the
last
couple
of
springs,
but
it
is
a
not
infrequent
occurrence
that
a
good
portion
of
the
spring
with
as
a
you
know,
runoff
occurs
that
this
bike
path,
that
boulder
creek
bike
path
that
runs
underneath
30th
street
here
regularly
gets
flooded,
and
this
intersection
or
this
this
underpass
under
30th
street,
is
one
of
the
ones
that
gets
flooded
the
worst
and
stays
flooded
the
longest.
C
You
know
we
have.
You
know
gates
that
direct
cyclists
usually
to
the
surface,
but
this
particular
surface
crossing
is
not
supposed
to
be
a
surface.
Crossing.
C
Cyclists
are
directed
to
go
very
far
out
of
their
way
over
to
arapahoe
avenue
and
use
the
signal
across
almost
never
do
they
they
kind
of
play
frogger
crossing
that,
and
that
is
not
something
that's
going
to
go
away.
So
I
am
I'm
not
seeing
anything
in
these
conceptual
designs.
C
I'm
hoping
it's
not
too
late
to
address
this
class
of
people,
but
it's
regular,
predictable,
likely
to
recur
and
something
that
without
more
serious
flood
mitigation
measures
at
the
boulder
creek
is
going
to
continue
to
happen
in
the
future,
and
I
believe,
as
part
of
this
project,
we
should
be
incorporating
some
sort
of
crossing
mechanism
for
the
cyclists
who
are
diverted
sometimes
for
a
month
or
more
in
the
spring
off
of
one
of
the
busiest,
if
not
the
busiest
multi-use
path
in
the
city.
C
I
C
I
was
also
impressed
I'm.
I
was
wondering
how
naive
I
was,
but
I
was
also
thinking
gosh.
This
is
really
fast,
so
echo
what
alex
said
that
was
really
impressive.
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
happy
to
see
it
happen
so
quickly.
F
C
F
C
All
right,
let's
move
along,
then
that
sounds
like
all
the
feedback
at
the
moment.
Thank
you,
ryan.
Thanks
team.
Thank.
R
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
brief
update
to
tab
about
our
work
planning
efforts.
I'm
not
going
to
bore
you
with
what
you
already
know,
because
you
helped
us
construct
our
work
program
and
that's
what
went
into
developing
the
budget
for
council
originally.
When
we
had
conceived
of
bringing
this
forward
to
tab,
we
had
anticipated
that
council
would
already
have
had
a
meeting
talking
about
you,
know,
sort
of
their
war
planning
efforts
etc
and
the
lead-up
to
their
retreat,
but
clearly
with
the
fires
and
then
with
the
wind
storms.
D
They
deferred
that
to
a
week
until
tomorrow.
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
I
guess
three
things
that
may
have
some
potential
implications
in
terms
of
our
work
program.
So
the
first
is
that
there
is
a
new
city
initiative
being
launched
on
racial
equity
and
each
of
the
departments
is
being
asked
to
develop
a
jedi
team,
justice,
equity
and
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
so
that
will
take
some
bandwidth
and
effort.
But
it's
also
something
that
I
believe
that
tab
has
been
very
strongly
interested
in.
D
I
don't
have
any
specifics
on
that
yet
because
the
guidance
is
still
you
know
being
worked
through,
but
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
and
as
part
of
that,
it
will
also
include
and
engage
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
there'll
be
work
for
you
to
do
too
as
part
of
that
effort.
So
just
wanted
to
highlight.
That
second
thing
is
that
you
know.
Hopefully,
whenever
the
council
has
its
retreat
tabs
ask
will
go
forward
in
terms
of
having
developing
a
vmt.
D
Assuming
that's
where
council
direct
directs
us
to
third
thing
is
that
overall,
within
the
city
2022,
whenever
the
budget
was
put
together,
was
envisioned
as
a
recovery
year
from
covid
and
we're
not
quite
seeing
that
yet
and
so
that's
having
implications
not
just
simply
because
you
know
from
an
economic
standpoint,
but
it's
also
having
implications,
because
this
most
recent
variant
is
affecting
staffs
substantially
as
it
because
of
infections,
breakthrough
infections,
and
so
that's
already
we're
you
know
just
into
the
new
year
and
we're
feeling
some
of
the
impacts,
particularly
in
our
maintenance
and
operation
side
of
things
over
there.
D
So
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
We,
you
know
right
now,
everything
you
know
we
anticipate
being
able
to
achieve
everything
that
we
said
we're
going
to
achieve
by
leaning
into
it,
but
just
wanted
to
share
those
pieces
of
information
with
you
so
that
you
have
situational
awareness
as
we
go
forward.
I
think
today,
you've
actually
heard
about
already
a
lot
of
the
work
plan,
items
that
we're
working
on
and
then
in
the
next
two
items
under
mattersome
staff.
You'll
hear
some.
D
S
Great
well,
thank
you
so
good
evening,
danny
o'connor,
here,
principal
transportation,
planner
transit
program
manager
tonight
just
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
brief
tab
on
rtd's
draft
system.
Optimization
plan
and
the
potential
impacts
that
we're
tracking
for
transit
service
in
boulder.
S
You
know,
as
all
of
you
are
just
well
familiar,
having
a
robust
and
enhanced
transit
network
is
just
one
of
the
critical
elements
of
our
past
and
current
tmp
plans
and
initiatives.
Transit
plays
such
a
critical
role
in
our
ongoing
efforts
for
attractive,
convenient,
safe,
local
and
regional
travel
options,
reducing
vmt,
enhancing
access
to
educational
employment
opportunities,
advancing
our
climate
commitment
efforts,
ensuring
those
that
there's
travel
options
for
vulnerable
populations
and
supporting
many
many
other
mobility
needs
and
priorities.
S
S
This
current
service
plan
is
what
rtd
is
calling
its
rtd
coven
19
service
plan,
which
has
basically
resulted
in
about
a
60
to
70
percent
of
pre-coveted
service
levels
on
the
street
across
the
district,
and
you
know,
and
some
of
our
analysis,
even
those
numbers
have
been
even
less
here
in
our
in
in
boulder,
so
rtd
has
really
their
latest
effort
has
been
putting
together
this
draft
system
optimization
plan.
So
there
was
a
link
in
the
email
that
went
out
to
tab
with
with
this
item
in
it.
S
What
it
does
is,
it
reflects
rtd's
latest
efforts
to
redesign
and
restore
services
pre-covered,
but
with
the
assumption
that
it's
only
going
to
be
85
of
2019
service
levels-
and
this
is
for
the
next
five
years,
starting
in
2022
to
2027.
S
rtd's,
really
the
genesis
of
putting
this
plan
to
the
85.
This
is
really
dependent
upon
where
they
are
with
their
projected
budget
availability,
their
labor
availability
and
it's
you
know
their
effort
to
to
basically
begin
the
restoration
process
for
everything
that
was
reduced
with
the
covet
service
plan.
But
it
isn't
a
full
restoration
as
obvious
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
a
real,
in-depth
review
of
the
plan.
They
have
specific
plan
recommendations
for
every
route
within
their
system
and
we're
identifying
these
critical
critical
concerns
to
raise
with
rtd.
S
Review
to
date
has,
though,
resulted
in
some
preliminary
concerns,
as
highlighted
here,
you
know
it's.
It's
obvious
that
rtd
is
in
a
contracting
mode.
This
plan
will
deliver
less
service
than
what
rtd
had
in
2019
across
the
district
as
well
as
in
boulder,
and
so
it's
basically
solidifying
a
15
service
reduction
for
the
immediate
future.
The
next
five
years
of
2022-2027.
S
There
are
numerous
routes
within
the
district
that
we're
operating
in
2019
that
will
not
be
restored
or
returned,
including
seven
routes
that
operate
in
boulder.
Much
of
the
focus
of
the
plan
is
on
delivering
more
efficient
service,
with
fewer
service
hours,
fewer
operators
and
fewer
routes.
S
It
is
not
guaranteed
for
smaller
and
more
dis
or
distinct
markets
and
geographies
like
boulder
and
as
as
mentioned
before,
some
of
these
thresholds
we've
seen
less
service
than
what
has
been
advertised
with
their
reductions.
When
it's
been
60
with
initially,
with
the
covet
service
plan,
we
were
estimating
service
hours
to
be
56
58
here
in
boulder,
with
that,
with
it
not
being
basically
a
an
85
percent
district
average.
S
S
Consequently,
some
service
gaps
created
during
the
covert
service
plan
may
remain
and
or
not
be
fully
restored,
and
I
think
you
know
what's
what's
really
you
know
just
has,
has
our
eye
as
we
continue
to
track.
This
is
just
from
a
big
picture
standpoint.
S
This
this
draft
sop
that
rtd
has
developed,
presents
some
very
challenging
circumstances
for,
for
us
really
we're
looking
at
a
seven
year
period,
2020
to
2027
at
least
of
significantly
reduced
services,
and
these
reduced
services
mean
fewer
and
less
attractive
mobility
options
and
challenge
our
prioritized
efforts
for
reducing
vmt
and
ghg.
S
Just
for
context
here,
this
is
really
kind
of
a
table
that
shows
the
23
routes
that
were
operating
in
boulder
in
2019
before
there
was
before
rtd
implemented
its
coven
19
service
plan
routes
on
the
left
are
regional
routes,
so
think
of
those
as
routes
that
connect
in
and
out
of
boulder
to
to
to
denver
and
golden
places
places
beyond
our
city
limits.
Local
routes
are
on
the
right
right
now.
S
The
the
preliminary
plan
has
seven
routes,
the
routes
that
are
in
red
basically
identified
for
either
a
permanent
discontinuation
and
or
they
will
be
folded
into
another
service
just
to
represent
this
also
kind
of
just
on.
On
a
on
a
map
to
orient
you,
it's
the
same
same
color
scheme
that
the
darker
lines
are
specific
to
the
23
routes
that
run
that
random
boulder
as
of
2019,
red
indications
and
labels
are
where
there
could
be
where
some
service
reductions,
specifically
lines
to
be
deleted,
have
been
identified.
S
Well,
there
are
some
overlapping
services
and
opportunities
for
some
consolidated
routes,
you'll
notice
that
there's
some
areas
of
concern.
You
know
specifically
around
cu
boulder
junction
east
boulder,
where
there's
quite
a
few
regional
routes
that
are
slated
to
be
discontinued.
S
For
next
steps
with
this
plan,
it
is
right
now,
a
draft
plan
in
preliminary
preliminary
status
rtd
is
requesting
comments.
We're
working
at
the
staff
level
in
the
requesting
us
of
staffs
all
across
their
district
for
comments
on
the
plan.
We've
provided
some
we're
doing
a
deeper
dive
into
the
details
to
provide
additional
and
we're
expecting
that
rtd
will
go
basically
public
after
a
touch
with
their
board
later
this
month,
for
basically
their
public
input.
S
Rtv
will
look
to
refine
the
plan
later
in
february
march,
with
its
board
to
approve
it
in
march
and
then
the
first
phase
of
these
changes
to
be
coming
in.
May,
I
think
you
know
just
the
significance
of
this
this
plan
really
when
we're
thinking
about
this.
This
is
you
know,
a
five-year
service
plan
for
rtd
where
we
could
start
to
see
those
changes.
Effective
may
1.
S
just
on
our
end
next
steps
for
boulder.
As
mentioned,
you
know
we're
we've
been
tracking
this,
since
we
saw
this
and
met
with
rtd
in
december,
putting
preliminary
comments
to
them
before
this
before
they
begin
their
public,
their
formal
public
engagement
process.
S
We
will,
as
as
we've
done
before,
work
through
our
communications
department,
our
social
media
channels,
to
really
publicize
these
public
input
opportunities.
These
options
there's
multiple
ways
for
people
to
comment
on
the
routes,
the
impacts
of
these
routes
and
just
the
plan
in
general.
S
We
really
wanted
to
bring
this
to
to
you
tonight
just
to
keep
you
informed
and
get
your
input
and
feedback
and
and
see
where
you
can
partner
with
us
on
amplifying
our
messages
and
concerns,
and
then
we
continue
to
really
engage
with
various
partners
who
you
know
are
have
been
tracking
are
also
concerned
with
what
this
plan
means,
and
you
know
the
potential
impacts.
That's
everyone
from
council
to
mcc
commuting
solutions.
S
There
will
be
some
more
time
for
work
for
the
city,
as
we
typically
do
to
provide
formal
comments
that
will
go
to
the
rtd
board
for
consideration
as
they
develop.
This
later
really
so,
you
know,
as
mentioned
with
our
briefing,
we
welcome
the
opportunity
for
some
partnership
from
from
tab
on
this
development.
S
You
know
we
were
thinking,
you
know
just
some
great
ways
where
we
could
partner
and
and
have
your
support.
Everything
from
you
know.
We
will
be
very
active
on
publicizing
the
public
input
opportunities.
What
the
specifics
are
of
the
routes,
the
impacts
within
the
community,
anything
that
you
can
help
through
your
own
social
media
networks
or
other
networks
to
help
publicize
that
and
get
the
word
out
for
the
input
opportunities
is
appreciated.
S
There
will
be
listening
sessions
that
rtd
will
hold
and
we
found
these
very
valuable.
We've
listened
to
them
all
of
them
as
as
they've
done
these
with
service
changes
really
throughout
the
covet
period,
and
these
listening
sessions
or
virtual
forums.
S
You
know,
I
think,
what's
been
so
important
to
me,
just
being
able
to
participate
and
listen
is
there
has
been
a
lot
of
feedback
really
from
from
people
concerned
about
the
routes
in
boulder
service
being
reduced
at
boulder
junction
flat
iron
flyer
service,
the
loss
of
the
golden
golden
boulder
route,
loss
of
service
and
gun
barrel,
and
you
know
very
vocal,
many
many
people
who
have
come
through
on
those
avenues,
we're
counting
on
them
to
come
through
again,
and
it's
just
a
really
good
opportunity
to
kind
of
get
another
year
as
far
as
what
the
community
is
concerned
about,
and
then,
if
you
do,
as
mentioned,
we
sent
the
the
plan
out
as
a
link.
S
It's
a
it's
linked
in
this
presentation
as
well.
If
you
have
any
specific
route
feedback
or
you
hear
it
from
constituents,
please
direct
that
to
us
so
that
we
can
track
it.
And
you
know
make
sure
that
that
we
put
this
in
with
with
all
of
our
comments
and
concerns
as
we
track
and
and
tracking
comments
on
this.
With
that.
That
closes
my
comments,
but
you
know
obviously
happy
for
happy
to
take
some
questions
and
and
provide
additional
contacts.
S
S
Well,
the
good
news,
good
news
is:
we
are
engaged
on
this.
B
S
You
know:
we've
been
tracking
it
tracking
it,
since
we
had
a
meeting
right
with
rtd
right
right
before
the
holiday
break
and
have
been
diving
in
rtd
has
granted
us
some
additional
time,
which
is
helpful
to
really
dive
into
the
the
routes,
determine
what
the
impacts
are
from
service
hours
and
what
have
you-
and
I
think
the
other
piece
is
really
with
our
jurisdictions-
everyone
from
boulder
county
to
our
neighboring
jurisdictions,
lafayette,
lewisville,
longmont,
we're
in
continuous
conversations
with
them
really
there's
some.
S
I
mean
we
have
specific
concerns
within
about
the
service
in
boulder,
but
there's
some
greater
ones.
That,
and
you
all
know
this-
I
mean
transit,
doesn't
stop
at
a
city
limit
and
we
have
multiple
concerns
that
I
think
we're
gonna.
You
know
just
put
together
coordinate
our
messaging
cu
is
also
very
active
at
the
table
and-
and
you
know,
tracking
and
providing
good
good
data.
So,
okay,
we're
on
it
we're
engaged.
S
C
Okay,
I
clicked
on
the
link
in
the
email
and
my
computer
was
afraid
to
open
it.
Oh
so
security
concerns,
I
don't
know
I
would
ask,
can
we
have
this
presentation
be
made
part
of
the
pack
at
the
public
facing
you
know
packet
and
information?
That's
on
our
website
and
on
the
tab
page
instead
of
just
being
in
an
email
to
us-
and
I
think
you
said
that
also
in
this
presentation
was
a
link.
C
I
think
there
was
a
link,
so
maybe
we
can
access
it
from
there,
but
my
computer
says:
there's
security
concerns.
Let
me
open
it.
S
S
C
Is
would
it
be
helpful
if
we
had
a
public
hearing
tab
on
this.
C
I
S
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
would
I
mean
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
because
anything
that
we
can
do
to
collect
comments
and
document
them,
and
you
know
also
just
that.
You
know
we're
aware
we're
aware
when
we
see
the
comments
and
we
hear
hear
of
them
in
the
public
public
meetings
that
rtd
does
hold.
But
if
there's
more,
we
definitely
want
to
hear
them.
Okay,.
J
Sure
first
I
want
to
clarify:
is:
is
there
an
85
reduction
in
service
hours
system
wide
and
then
we're
anticipating,
not
85
reduction
85
of
the
existing
service
system
wide
and
then
in
bold
we're
going
to
see
that
I
hear
56
to
58
of
our
existing
service
hours.
S
Yeah
now,
thank
you
alex
yeah.
Let
me
let
me
clarify
a
little
bit
on
that,
because
there's
a
couple
steps
but
you're
on
it.
So
in
2019,
basically,
when
rtd
implemented
its
covet
service
plan
of
in
april
of
2020
and
they
put
service
on
a
saturday
schedule,
it
resulted
in
a
60
60
of
2019
service
level.
S
This
plan
is
to
ultimately
put
together
a
system,
that's
at
85
percent,
so
it
won't
be
100
of
what
we
had
pre-covered
the
numbers
and
I've
got
it
kind
of
in
about
the
information
here.
But
when
rtd
went
to
60
with
that
initial
covet
service
plan,
we
tracked
the
hours
locally
and
we
were
approximately
at
56
instead
of
the
60.
when
it
went
up
to
70,
we
were
about
68.
S
we're
gonna,
do
the
same
analysis,
with
kind
of
the
new
service
plan
and
routes
to
try
to
see
where
these
routes
fall
in
compared
to
that
85
threshold.
But,
what's
what
so,
when
they're
saying
60
or
85
it's
district
wide,
but
they're
not
guaranteeing
it
for
specific,
smaller
geographies,
and
in
some
cases
you
know
what
they.
What
they
are
saying
too,
is
you
know
this
is
a
this
is
an
opportunity
where
they're
moving
moving
services
from
different
markets
to
larger
urban
markets
or
places
where
they
have
more.
J
I
guess
I've
been
professionally
involved
in
a
couple
of
these
reimagining
efforts,
most
recently
for
the
town
of
breckenridge,
who,
through
the
years,
kept
adding
service
in
the
form
of
additional
routes,
and
then
we
were
able
to
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
how
they
best
operate
their
existing,
how
they
best
use
their
existing
resources
and
expand
the
transit.
The
the
answer
we
landed
on
was
consolidation
of
routes,
that
fewer
routes
that
were
more
frequent
and
had
more
coordinated
transfers
would
would
actually
be
able
would
be
the
best
way
to
a
lost.
J
A
number
of
routes
wasn't
a
bad,
an
act
and,
and
the
first
one
of
these
I
worked
on
was
in
houston,
which
is
the
sort
of
first
big
reimagining
that
took
off
with
now.
Dozens
of
cities
are
doing
this
and
there,
the
the
local
network,
had
always
been
this
hub
and
spoke
network
where
all
the
routes
were
focused
on
coming
in
and
out
of
downtown.
If
you're
trying
to
get
somewhere.
J
You
took
one
bus
into
downtown
and
you
take
another
bus
out
and
by
making
a
taking
the
approach
of
creating
a
grid
of
just
north,
south
and
east-west
routes
that
were
more
direct
and
more
frequent
overnight.
This
network
that
had
10,
000
stops
was
was
totally
changed
and
a
system
that
was
losing
one
to
two
percent
ridership
per
year
in
the
following
year
saw
a
20
increase
in
ridership
using
the
same
resources.
J
It's
because
the
reimagining
effort
was
working
to
identify
inefficiencies
in
the
system
by
taking
this
once
a
generation
or
two
blank
sheet
of
paper
approach
to
this,
and
often
services
happen
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
it's
sort
of
death
by
a
thousand
little
tweaks
to
to
meet
this
demand
or
that
of
various
elected
officials
or
concerned
constituents.
But
if
you
look
at
how
the
behaviors
are
changing,
the
land
uses
are
changing
or
where
the
operational
inefficiencies
might
be.
J
There's
there's
an
opportunity
to
find
ways
of
using
the
same
amount
of
resources
better
and
through
this,
this
project,
this
process
by
rtd,
this
reimagining
effort
kicked
off
before
covet.
I
know
they
were
losing
ridership
and
had
dwindling
resources
and
some
commitments
they
were
struggling
to
meet,
but
I'm
curious
if
before
cope,
but
there
were
any
inefficiencies
identified
by
rtb
that
the
city
brought
towards
rtd
or
we've
since
identified
that
could
allow
us
to
use
even
whatever.
S
Yeah,
that's
that's
a
that's
a
really
really
good
context
and
discussion
alex
and
yeah
familiar
with
the
houston
example
and
and
what
have
you
I,
I
think
what
and
I'd
have
to
go
back
to
memory
ahead
of
time
I
mean
because
it
did
shift
you're
right
that
I
mean
this
reimagine
was
started
off
pre-coveted
in
2019.
S
It
was
a
look
at
you
know.
We
did
assume
that
there
were
going
to
be
some
efficiencies
with
it.
That's
what
they
were
saying,
trying
to
best
match
market
and
supply
supply
and
market
consolidating
routes
and
having
better
schedules.
More
streamlined
service
service.
That's
easier
to
understand
on
on
the
street,
covid
really
impacted.
S
I
think
where
this
plan
has
gone,
because
it's
it's
what
we're
now
seeing
yes,
I
mean
some
of
the
tenants
are
and
we're
going
to
look
at
it
in
more
detail,
more
consistent
schedules
schedules
that
are
easier
to
understand.
You
know
more
straighter
routes,
consolidated
routes,
quicker
routes,
but
it
wasn't
a
full
redesign
where
they
they
had
that
opportunity,
and
you
know,
I
think,
for
an
example
and
one
of
them
that
we're
really
tracking
and
concerned
about
is
you
know
with
covid
when
they
implemented
their
covet
service
plan
they
they.
S
It
basically
ended
service
at
boulder
junction,
and
you
know
that's
something
we
have
asked
for
continuing
look
for
that
to
be
basically
reinstated.
I
mean
you,
I
mean
talk
about
a
location
from
a
land
use
standpoint
and
all
the
public
investment
and
t
you
know
the
t
and
tod
and
the
tna
transit
center,
and
it's
we
have
nothing
operating
there
and
you
know
initial
review
of
this
plan.
There's
only
one
out
of
three
routes
coming
back
to
boulder
junction
and
there
wasn't
an
opportunity.
S
You
know
I
was
an
opportunity
like
what
you're
talking
houston
could
have
been
the
kind
of
a
redesign
around
it,
and
a
lot
of
this
is
just
kind
of
working
with
okay,
which
ones
can
be
trimmed
back
consolidated.
Let's
have
some
consistent
schedules
and
go
so
I
see
erica.
K
S
D
I
think
your
point
alex
it's
one
thing:
if
rtd
were
to
take
the
hours
that
previously
had
been
allocated
within
the
boulder
environment
and
say:
okay
well,
we're
collapsing,
you
know
these
routes
into
this
and
then
we'll
have
more
re-frequent
service.
But
that's
not
what's
happening.
J
Q
Yeah
and
if
I
can
just
jump
in
here,
you
know
we've,
we
continually
provide
that
feedback.
I
mean
that
is
a
large
part
of
danny's
role.
Is
that
continued
coordination
with
rtd
and
their
service
planning
team?
And
so
you
know
we
have
a
good
sense
of
what
the
community's
needs
are
from
a
transit
perspective
and
what
should
be
delivered
in
the
community
and
he's
continually
in
conversation
with
rtd
about
that
and
that's
been
through
this
whole
reimagine
process,
but
also
just
in
you
know,
quarterly
service
planning
service
changes.
Q
So
they
definitely
know
what
you
know.
Our
desires
are
for
the
community
from
a
transit
perspective,
and-
and
that's
you
know
the
reality
of
it-
is
that
they're,
balancing
a
budget
and
they're
distributing
resources
across
the
district,
and
so
you
get
what
erica
just
kind
of
summarized
where
the
allocations
are
going.
J
Okay
thanks,
I
might
want
to
follow
up
with
you
danny
about
that,
if
you
don't
mind
about
sort
of
what
our
ongoing
historical
asks
have
been.
One
final
question
is:
as
a
result
of
this,
could
we
possibly
redeploy
the
hops
the
some
of
that
service,
that
we
do
have
some
control
on
to
fill
in
some
of
the
gaps
or
provide
something
that
rtd
is
taking
away
from
us.
S
Yeah,
you
know
alex
that's
an
interesting
thought
and
it's
consistent
with
you
know.
Some
of
the
previous
work,
with
the
renewed
vision
for
transit
rtd
is
part
of
this
as
well.
The
reimagine
they're
talking
about
partnerships
such
as
partnerships
for
other
service
delivery,
and
they
they
point
to
the
hop
as
one.
You
know.
That's
co-funded,
rtd,
city,
cu
and
you
know
they
there's
they're
looking
for
potential
partnership
opportunities
for
for
additional
service
where
they're
they
can't
provide
it.
S
But
maybe
there's
someone
you
know
like
the
city
that
can
partner
in
in
some
sort
of
funding
agreement.
I
think
you
know
the
trick
is
just
you
know.
There
is
a
funding
commitment
rtd.
You
know
they
don't
pay
100
on
on
hop.
You
know
that
there
is
a
significant
city,
commitment
and-
and
you
know
how,
how
do
we,
if
that's
somewhere,
where
we
go,
you
know
how
do
we
navigate
that.
N
Yeah,
just
along
the
lines
of
what
alex
just
suggested,
I've
always
wondered
because
I've
seen
this
pattern
in
other
cities.
We
have
some
needs
here
that
are
sort
of
commute,
driven
and
there's.
Obviously,
some
that
are
schools,
driven
that
I
I
think
are
handled
relatively
well
here,
but
I
I've,
I
don't
know
much
about
it,
but
if
ibm
and
ball,
for
instance,
two
of
our
biggest
employers
with
pretty
structured
hours
you
know
is:
is
that
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
around
peak
load
management
with
frankly
non-standard
routes?
N
One
of
the
things
we
used
to
do
at
rmi
in
terms
of
research
was
think
about
flexibilizing,
both
the
routes
and
the
timing
in
ways
that
I've
never
seen
rtd
do
like.
You
know,
there's
10
buses
in
the
evening
doing
this
variety
of
non-standard
routes
and
the
rest
of
the
time
they're
doing
something
else,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
they're
at
all
open
to
that
or
whether
you
think
that
us
leaning
in
on
on
those
sort
of
route
flexibilization
things
would
be
helpful.
S
S
One
thing
that
they're
exploring
you
know
are
potential
flex
zones
that
to
basically
cover
larger
geographic
areas
in
partnership
that
they
can't
basically
do
it's
inefficient
or
ineffective
with
multiple
multiple
buses,
as
they
would
have
to
schedule,
but
more
of
your
on-demand
flex
zone
pieces
and
they
have
those.
That's
pardon
part
of
that
development
plan.
Development
they've
talked
to
us
about
that
potential
for
gun
barrel
with
you
know
a
potential
flex
zone
up
there
to
really
connect
with
those
employers
and
with
their
fixed
route
service.
S
I
G
So
I
I
just
danny
had
asked
about
feedback,
and-
and
I
I
have
a
very
brief
anecdote-
and
that
is
that
on
december
16th
at
3
30
in
the
morning,
I
got
on
the
ab
jill
and
I
did
going
to
the
airport,
and
luckily
we
got
on
at
table
mesa
and
broadway
where
we
parked
our
car
and
by
table
mesa
the
the
main
park
and
ride
at
table.
Mason
36
the
bus
was
beyond
full,
it
was
it
was.
G
The
aisle
was
full
up
to
the
driver
and
the
the
luggage
compartments
were
full.
The
people
had
their
luggage
in
the
aisle
it
was,
it
was
a
it
was
unsafe
and
uncomfortable
for
everyone,
including
the
driver,
and
I
to
me
it
is
points
to
rtd
underestimating
the
the
speed
with
which
and
and
the
need
for
transit-
and
I
know
I
know
their
budget
constrained.
G
Their
staff
constrained,
but
part
of
their
staff
constraints
is
the
uncomfortable
nature
for
drivers
of
dealing
with
fares
dealing
with
cash
dealing
with
you
know,
overcrowded
buses,
and
so
anyway,
that's
my
my
little
anecdote.
My
question
is,
you
know
the
state.
The
federal
government
gave
the
state
money
in
support
of
transit
agencies,
and
the
state
seemed
to
have
given
that
money
to
a
portion
of
that
money
to
boulder
county
who
we
obviously
partner
with
on
all
sorts
of
things.
G
What
what
is
the
status
of
those
funds
with
the
county?
And
how
are
we
using
our
relationship
with
the
county.
S
Yeah,
I
can
give
a
quick
update
on
that.
So
that's
a
that's
a
really
good
question,
and
it
applies
to
this.
So
there
was
34
million,
give
or
take
that
was
directed
from
the
state
to
boulder
county.
S
That's
for
the
ucas
of
boulder
long,
small
ucas,
urbanized
area,
the
formula,
boulder,
longmont
and
then
louisville
lafayette.
So
so
it
was
fun.
Funding
that
came
in
and
basically
part
of
the
federal
rescue
to
help
get
transit
restored
and
back
on
back
going
again.
Boulder
county
has
taken
the
lead.
So
in
order
in
order
to
tap
into
that
funding,
they
have
to
go
through
multiple
hoops
to
become
a
direct
recipient
to
fta.
S
So
it's
programmatic,
you
know,
there's
by
there's,
calls
probably
every
two
weeks
that
I
participate
in
with
with
boulder
county
staff
as
well
with
fta
trying
to
get.
You
know
next
steps
with
these.
It's
a
timeline
that
could
take
six
to
six
months
plus
six
to
12
months.
I
mean
really
to
go
through
everything
that
fta
requires,
but
that
could
become
you
know
and
it's
been
eyed
as
a
potential
to
really
help,
potentially
with
some
of
these
restorations
and
in
the
near
term.
It's
the
money
has
a
five
year
window
on
it.
S
You
know,
but
it
doesn't
it
doesn't.
It
won't
restore
everything,
but
it's
you
know
it.
It's
an
opportunity
to
get
more
more
out
on
the
street.
G
Okay,
thank
you
yeah,
it's
too
bad
that
money
that
was
intended.
G
You
know
the
federal
government
does
a
lot
of
things
that
it
wants
to
get
out
there
right
away
and
then
it
gets
mired
and
and
the
money
doesn't
really
move
out
as
quickly
as
anyone
had
hoped.
I
just
want
to
support
what
hutch
and
alex,
and
everyone
has
been
saying,
and
it
really
comes
down
to
you
know:
what
do
we
control?
G
What
can
we
do
and
you
know
how?
How
do
we?
How
can
we
change
our
our
own
systems
in
ways
that
we
can
manage
control,
and
I
I
just
want
to
you
know:
I
support
the
idea
of
changing
the
hop
repurposing
it
during
different
hours.
I
I
also
encourage
the
idea
of
of
going
to
our
major
employers,
including
google,
google,
as
everyone
knows
in
the
bay
area,
has
has
their
own
fleets
of
buses
and
and
things
now.
G
And,
finally,
I
you
know
I
tend
to
repeat
myself
over
the
years
on
tab
and
I'm
going
to
repeat
myself
again.
This
is
an
opportunity
to
reevaluate
our
subsidies
for
neighborhood
ecopasses
and
again
you
know
we.
We
did
a
little
working
group
and
I
made
my
thoughts
known
about
that.
G
But
again
we
have
a
pool
of
money
and-
and
the
question
that
we
need
to
ask-
is
in
this
moment
with
rtd
in
their
situation
with
people
who
are
really
transit
dependent.
You
know
if
you're,
if
you're
wealthy
and
you
have
two
cars
and
you
gotta
drive
to
downtown
denver
instead
of
instead
of
taking
the
bus.
Oh
well,
you
got
to
drive
to
the
airport
that
that's
okay,
but
for
people
that
are
transit
dependent
that
may
not
live
in
an
eat
in
an
ecopass
neighborhood
and
have
a
you
know
some
person.
G
I
think
we
need
to
evaluate
what's
the
best
use
of
our
ecopass
subsidies,
and
can
it
be
both
done
simply
simpler,
more
equitable
at
a
better
value
with
my
ride
cards
or
existing
rtd
products
that
that
we
can
leverage.
So
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
case
for
that
again
and
I
think
this
whole
rtd
situation
gives
us
another
impetus
and
another
opportunity
to
do
that.
F
Try
to
be
fast,
I
know
we're
we're
getting
laid
here
danny
thanks
for
coming
coming
back
to
this
on
this.
F
This
unfortunate
news,
month,
month
and
month
out-
and
I
know
what's
under
staff
manage
today,
but
it
really
seems
like
one
of
the
biggest
issues
that
we
face
and
so
to
me,
it's
so
big
that
it
warrants
thinking
about
our
balance
sheet,
and
you
know
earlier
we
talked
about
amps,
where
I
think
there
is
broad
understanding
that
we're
the
city
making
a
values
decision
about
charging
under
market
pricing
for
car
driving
and
subsidizing
activities
that,
while
they
have
some
reason,
they
work
against
also
some
of
our
team
peoples,
and
it
just
makes
me
think
about
just
taking
a
look
at
when
we
have
such
need
like
this.
F
Taking
a
look
at
what
we
are
leaving
on
the
table
elsewhere,
that's
subsidizing
activity,
contrary
to
some
of
the.
F
What
the
need
is
here
and
and
making
that
evaluation
in
a
way
that's
consistent
with
our
current
city
council's
values
and
priorities,
and
maybe
we
don't
know
what
those
are
yet
need
to
ask.
But
any
case.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
observation
that
we
sort
of
go
to
surplus
over
here
and
get
over
here
and
that's
that's
all.
I
have
to
say
thanks.
E
C
All
right
we're
gonna
move
along
now
matters
from
the
board.
We
have
open
board
comment.
C
Ryan
earlier
you
wanted
to
say
something
about
the
state
of
the
current
construction
on
maybe
30th
or
baby
colorado.
F
F
I
saw
the
construction,
the
the
I
think
to
start
construction
date
would
be
2023
or
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
the
built
by
or
whatever,
but
for
months
now
I've
been
trying
to
ride
east
westbound
on
30th
hang
north
on
sorry,
sorry,
I'm
on
colorado,
I'm
going
westbound
and
then
to
turn
north
on
the
30th,
and
it's
just
these.
F
This
big
set
of
orange
barriers
that
force
me
on
the
bike
and
I
think,
if
I
was
walking,
I
have
to
do
it,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
have
that
right,
but
definitely
on
a
bike.
It
forces
me
way
out
into
this
lane
and
it's
kind
of
an
airline
and
it's
a
big
intersection
and
it's
I
think
it's
very
intimidating,
especially
you
know.
Taking
I
take
kids
around
my
bike
and
I
just
sort
of
yeah.
F
C
R
There
is
and-
and
that's
so
the
reason
we
have
that
shift
in
place
is
so
that
we
can
start
actually
taking
the
underpass,
but
it
won't
be
a.
I
J
F
Okay,
so
just
on
the
winter
winter,
a
snow
and
ice
subject
for
cyclists,
so
I've
been
experimenting.
F
I
think
I'm
down
to
maybe
the
only
parent
school
still
showing
up
on
a
bike
last
week
was,
you
know
pretty
harsh
if
you
weren't
ready
for
it,
but
you
know
I
just
I
was
I'm
really
grateful.
First
of
all
for
the
the
operations
in
the
team
that
does
all
the
work
to
get
out
there
and
get
those
things
plowed
and
it's
you
know
it's
really
special,
and
so
I
guess
that's
the
positive
side
on
the
negative
side.
Is
I'm
actually
a
little
bit
surprised
that
we
don't
have?
F
I
mean
we've
got
such
a
great
engineering
infrastructure,
but
we
we
don't
have
as
many
people
out
there
as
I'd
ex
as
I
might
expect,
and
I
I
probably
think
that
it's
you
know
because
what
happens
is
we
some
cases?
Do
you
know
pretty
much
close
to
100
job
the
morning
of,
but
then
the
street
cleaning
snap
planning
team
comes
along.
They
push
that
back
to
80,
80
or
90
percent
and
then
and
then,
a
few
days
later.
Then
we
get.
You
know
the
thought:
freeze,
stop
freezing
we
get
these.
F
These
just
persistent.
You
know
really
slick
spots
that
make
people
just
kind
of
in
the
same
way
that
they
make
decisions
about
not
wanting
to
get
too
exposed
to
cars.
It
kind
of
you
know
it
just
it
doesn't
seem
right
out
there
and
I
just
I
don't
even
know
that
I
have
a
specific
question,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
sort
of
wondering
in
an
ongoing
way.
How
does
how
are
we
doing
on
this
and.
F
You
clear
the
bikeways
and
then
the
street
the
street
operations
come
along
and
then
mess
it
up.
Is
that
something
that
we,
I
guess,
is
a
known
issue
that
that
we're
working
against
and
then
I
guess
more
generally.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
thoughts
on
this,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
put
folks
on
the
spot.
But
those
are
just
things
on
my
mind
so
comment
or
don't
that's
fine.
C
D
It
was
a
little
bit
more
unique,
and
so
we
didn't
have
as
many
staff
out
on
the
roads
here
in
boulder
and
the
reason,
why
is
that
we
are
helping
our
neighbors
in
superior
as
the
fires
were,
you
know,
essentially
starting
continuing
to
rage
emergency
personnel
needed
to
be
able
to
access
areas
to
put
out
the
fires
in
both
louisville
and
superior
and
so
in
superior
all
their
snow
treatment
and
renew
removal
equipment
was
basically
obliterated
through
the
fires,
so
we
were
out
helping
our
neighbors
as
well
as
trying
to
help
ourselves.
D
I
left
things
less
than
perfect
and
then
another
snowstorm
hit
and
came
we're
trying
to
do
better,
but,
as
I've
mentioned
earlier,
we've
had
you
know
folks
out
with
covet,
also
so
we're
trying
to
do
our
best
with
the
resources
that
we
have
as
we
had
shared
earlier.
When
we
went
through
the
snow,
you
know
removal
plan
with
you
and
then
with
council.
D
We
don't
have
enough.
You
know
staff
to
be
able
to
go
through
and
do
everything
and
have
it
perfect.
So
we
rely
on
the
sun
quite
a
bit,
but
whenever
we
do
have
the
situations
that
are
talking
about,
we
do
try
to
go
back
and
re-plow
and
get
that
out
of
the
bike
lanes
and
basically
slash
it
back
and
forth.
I
N
C
N
So
get
your
digs
in
in
the
next
30
days
or
28
days
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know,
I
guess
it's
february.
C
I
think
you
don't
get
replaced
you,
you
might
still
be
on
the
hook
in
march.
I
have
to
say
my
friends
well.
C
Usually,
appointments
happen
later
on
in
the
second
half
of
march,
and
usually
our
meeting
our
march
meeting
is
usually
just
before
the
appointment,
so.
N
It's
timely,
I'm
not
rushing
to
leave
or
anything,
but
I
just
thought
I
would.
I
would
bring
that
up
in
case.
Anybody
has
anything
they
want
to
to
lean
on
me
about
whether
me
helping
with
something
or
are
you
saying,
you're,
sick
of
me
or
whatever.
G
So
we
put
digs
on
a
hutch
in
the
agenda
tracker.
C
C
C
C
I
think
there's
been
a
remarkable
effort
by
mark
to
make
sure
that
things
are
on
there,
but
I
by
no
means
is
a
complete
list
of
what's
upcoming
and
what
we
expect
to
happen
and
that's
kind
of
part
of
the
delicate
nature
of
this
mark.
Do
you
want
us
to
walk
through
them?
Does
anyone
have
something
to
add?
What's
what's
the
thinking
here.
G
We
would
do
ourselves
a
favor
by
as
quickly
as
possible
running
through
those
items
and
with
the
responsible
parties
to
say
yeah.
It's
still,
it's
still
a
future
agenda
topic
and
we're
going
to
get
to
it.
We
think
it's
going
to
be
june
or
or
make
a
case.
You
know
what
get
rid
of
that.
It's
it's
outdated,
it's
it's
not
relevant
any
longer,
or
what
do
you
mean
by
that?
Oh,
that
sounds
great.
Oh,
that
sounds
dumb,
but
let's
get
let's
get
to
it.
G
Okay,
so
item
number
one
broadway
and
rayleigh
lessons
learned
started
in
may
of
last
year
and
it
seemed
to
be
an
item
that
staff
was
willing
to
do.
I
had
offered
and
expressed
an
interest
in
participating
and
it
has
yet
to
happen
so
I'm
looking
for
some
feedback
from
staff
on
whether
or
not
this
will
ever
happen
and
if
so,
when,
or
should
we
remove
it
from
the
list
because
it's
not
going
to
happen.
D
Eric
and
natalie
we're
kind
of
interchangeable,
so
I
think
currently
it
was
scheduled.
D
You
know
I
was
talking
down
the
earlier
doing
a
debrief,
not
only
broadway
really,
but
amongst
you
know,
there
are
a
number
of
other
projects
that
tab
has
had
thoughts
about,
etc,
and
so
originally
we
had
that
scheduled
for
march,
but
we'd
like
to
move
it
for
on
to
february,
because
it's
lighter-
and
we
really
do
want
to
share
with
you
what
our
learnings
were
as
we
went
through,
not
only
just
broadway
rally
but
a
number
of
other
projects,
and
so
it
was
on
a
list
of
things
that
I
had
identified
for
follow-up
for
us.
C
D
Same
question
same
question:
in
terms
of
that,
so
that
the
guy,
the
guidance
that
I've
gotten
is
what
I'd
shared
with
you
all
earlier
that
the
city
is
going,
is
launching
a
new
initiative
for
racial
equity
and
wants
to
have
it
consistent
across
all
the
boards
and
commissions.
J
H
G
Okay,
I'm
going
to
note
that,
as
will,
remove
and
provide
link,
okay,
cool,
okay
item
three,
the
millennium.
There
was
a
little
confusion
about
that
because
I
didn't
really
say
it
was
it
is
that
council
has
requested
tab
input
in
regard
to
the
redevelopment
into
housing
of
the
millennium
harvest
house
site
council
didn't
put
a
date
on
it.
I'm
sure
planning
board
is
involved
in
this
as
well,
but
I
I
didn't.
G
I
wanted
to
put
it
on
this
so
that
we
could
make
sure
it
didn't
slip
away
and
in
that
tab
would
have
an
opportunity
in
the
future,
to
comment
on
on
the
millennium
design.
G
Unless
staff
has
some
some
date
that
they
know
certain
or
whatever.
D
G
Okay,
nsmp
process
for
pedestrian
crossings.
I
had
requested
presentations
and
a
copy
of
the
process
used
for
responding
to
crossing
requests
and
have
not.
I
would
like
to
do
that
presentation
at
the
next
tab
meeting.
Should
I
have
that
information
delivered
I'm
happy
to
wait
till
march
okay,
but
it's
a
question
of
when
can
I
get
that
stuff.
Q
Yeah
we
can
work
on
gathering
that
in
the
next
week
or
so,
and
it
should
be
available
for
february
for
you
to
prep
for
february.
G
Okay,
all
right:
okay,.
G
G
So
we
can
talk
about
that
particular
incident
and
when
we'll
get
information
on
that-
and
we
can
talk
about-
is
this
something
that
we
need
to
actually
build
a
process
or
a
procedure
for.
C
Q
I
mean,
I
think
so
we're
we're
getting
into
the
practice
of
as
soon
as
erica,
and
I
have
the
information
available
to
us
from
the
police
department.
We
share
the
details
that
we
have
and
oftentimes.
Q
You
know
there
are
investigations
that
are
ongoing,
and
so
we
don't
get
a
lot
more
information
and
and
so
we're
not
able
to
share
much
more,
but
I
think
we
can
talk
about
internally
as
a
staff
team,
how
we,
you
know,
have
any
type
of
like
follow-up
once
bpd
has
concluded
an
investigation
and
and
then
we
can
come
back
with
an
update
on
that
after
we've
had
a
chance
to
talk
inter
into
internally.
Q
C
I'm
just
mindful
that
I
I
forget
if
it
was
july
or
august,
but
earlier
this
year
you
know
there
were
a
sufficient
cluster
of
of
crashes
and
serious
injuries
that
the
police
department
did
come
and
we
didn't
know
if
we
could
maybe
build
something
like
that
more
regularly.
Of
course,
we're
hoping
this
becomes
a
less
and
less
regular
occurrence,
it's
hard
to
systematize
it.
But
just
noting
you
know
in
20
seconds
this
happened
last
week
and
and.
C
C
So
that's
what
this
item
is:
I'm
not
sure
what
we
do
with
it
sounds
like
natalie
just
said,
you're
gonna
have
more
internal
discussions
and
we'll
just
kind
of
keep
thinking
about
how
to
better
update
people.
I
don't
know
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth.
C
D
D
C
Well,
I'm
discerning
that
there
is
interest
in
having
more
regular
sort
of
touch
points
with
tab
and
pd
directly.
So
if
that
could
be
convenient.
G
I
N
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
comment
briefly
on
the
previous
one
as
well.
I
mean
in
in
at
least
two
cases,
just
in
the
news:
there's
been
criminal
proceedings
against
the
drivers
and-
and
I'm
wondering,
if
there's
some
way
for
us
to
have
some
sort
of
as
tab,
and
we
can
do
this
homework
ourselves
just
running
capture
of
the
data
and
all
these
long-running
things
we've
got
five-year
terms.
That's
that's!
N
Arguably,
as
as
long
as
at
least
some
people
on
staff
are
playing
their
roles,
so
we're
sort
of
along
with
people
around
here
notwithstanding
my
two
year
term,
and
I
I
think
some
of
that
longitudinal
insight
about
you
know
what
happened
for
at
least
some
of
the
more
major
incidents
might
be
something
that
we
just
figure
out
a
way
to
keep
track
of.
G
You
know
the
the
germans
are
basically
do
crash
analysis
on
on
their
highways
all
the
time.
It's
like
you,
don't
you
don't
have
a
crash
that
results
in
a
death
without
an
analysis
and
without
a
review
of
it,
and
I
think
that
anyway,
I
think
this
is
this.
N
N
There's
now
you
know
some
additional
pieces
of
data
about
what
happened
and
people
are
are
under
criminal
indictment,
etc.
With
respect
to
this
process,
for
you
know
how
do
we
deal
with
and
and
to
me
this?
This
builds
on
the
point
alex
has
been
making
for
quite
some
time
because
bigger
projects
get
constructed
differently
and
sit
on
various
shelves
and
get
picked
off
when
they
come
to
the
top
of
lists
for
large
external
funding
opportunities.
N
The
the
whole
process
by
which
we
interact
with
them
is
is
different
and
messy,
and
I
know,
there's
been
some
some
if
not
failures,
tricky
situations,
and
so
that
was
just
a
really
a
process.
Engineering
conversation
about
you
know:
how
do
we
ensure
that
fairly
early
in
any
large
project,
maybe
even
before
we
choose
it
to
go
to
dr
cogg
or
wherever
we
have
conversations
that
may
be
helpful
in
ensuring
quality
and
alignment
with
goals,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
thought
that
that
was
a
good
retreat
topic.
N
N
They
go
extremely
slowly
and
nobody
knows
much
about
them
and
then
they're,
then
they're
funded,
and
then
they
go
extremely
fast
and
they
become
very
concrete
very
quickly
and
it's
too
late
to
do
much
about
them.
This
is
this.
Is
this
is
a
systemic
problem
that
happens
all
the
time.
So
that's
what
that
was
about.
I
don't
know
what
we
want
to
do
about
timing.
It.
D
I
would
offer
two
suggestions:
one
is
that
continue
to
have
that
as
a
retreat
item,
but
then
I
can
also
share
that.
As
part
of
our
lessons
learned,
the
situation
you
just
described
is
something
that
we've
talked
about
extensively
and
so
we'll
be
sharing
some
of
that
information
from
the
staff
standpoint.
I
C
F
Yeah
so
I'll
make
it
I'm
going
to
make
a
pitch
for
this
I'll
back
off
if
nobody
else
is
interested,
but
I'll
just
try
to
remind
you
of
what
this
is
about
and
with
my
update
on
it.
So
I
I
just
I've
been
thinking
about
or
when
I
raised.
This
was
thinking
about
that.
A
lot
of
the
proposals
we
hear
are
driven
to
us
and
driven
to
their
state
by
public
comment
in
pretty
fundamental
ways
and
staff
naturally
needs
a
methodology
to
make
sense
of
public
comments.
F
So
I'm
just
curious
about
what
kind
of
values
are
being
applied
to
those
those
methodologies
specifically
around
how
we
count
and
value
input
and
then
make
decisions
either
explicitly
or
implicitly
about
who's
it
whose
interest
or
who
gets
the
benefit.
So
just.
F
Imagine
any
project
you
have.
You
have
at
least
an
implicit
decision
about
community
wide
benefit
versus
you
know,
people
that
live
around
that
and
you
have
to
make
some
decisions.
If
we
truly
are
talking
about
counting
neighbors
here,
you
know
over
here
and
there
you
know.
Is
it
one
household
one
vote?
F
Is
it
a
person
you
know,
or
is
it
a
person
for
vote
and
then
it's
you
know,
there's
a
number
of
these
things
down
the
line
that
maybe
they
just
are
super
intuitive
and
not
even
explicitly
discussed
with
staff,
but
maybe
not
so
it
just
struck
me
that
this
might
be
something
that
staff
would
benefit
from
hearing
from
from
tab
on
it
at
some
point,
that's
what
kinds
of
values,
if
any,
should
we,
you
know,
make
sure
being
applied
to
these?
These
methods.
G
Ryan,
could
you
help
me
offline?
The
link
I
set
I
sent
allows
you
to
suggest
I
I
was.
I
wanted
to
make
sure,
but
I'll
I'll
just
send
you
an
editing
link,
but
if
you
could
edit
both
the
topic
and
the
comment
section
there,
that
would
be
helpful
to
me.
I
think
the
discussion
for
us
now
is
when
you
know
do
we
want
to
keep
this
on
and
if
so,
when
would
we
deal
with
it?
G
Q
F
G
F
It
will,
it
could
be,
it
could
be
done
in
there.
I
I
think
you
know
some
of
those
questions
are
kind
of
big
questions,
so
I'd
want
to
wouldn't
want
to
just
surprise
staff
on
the
day
of
so.
If
those
are
interesting
types
of
questions,
then
I'd
say
yeah:
let's,
let's
do
it
then,
but
just
give
staff
a
heads
up.
G
E
G
Great
strategic
planning
opportunities,
hyphen
federal
infrastructure
bill.
I
was
a
little
confused
about
this,
I'm
not
sure
who's
responsible
for
this,
but
speak
up.
Yeah.
G
G
Okay,
well,
I'm
anyone
can
bring
it
back
at
some
point,
but
I'm
going
to
remove
it
unless
someone
objects.
G
Okay
item
10
state
greenhouse
gas,
ghd
update
again
another
kind
of.
I
I
Q
A
Yeah
hi
jean
sanson
senior
transportation
planner.
Yes,
that
is
how
I
read
item
number
10,
and
so
the
state
greenhouse
gas
rule
has
been
adopted
by
the
transportation
commission
and
dr
cogg
is
going
to
be
incorporating
a
ghg
analysis
into
the
update
of
their
regional
transportation
plan
in
the
coming
year
and,
along
with
that,
we
will
be
working
with
dr
cogg
and
our
member
jurisdictions
to
develop
mitigation
strategies
that
could
be
included
for
ghg
mitigation.
G
So
this
would
be
an
item.
I
think
that
and
ryan,
it's
your
it's
your
initial
item
so
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
this
would
be
one
where,
if
it's
going
to
be
ongoing
and
gene
has
committed
to
updating
us
as
as
as
situation,
changes
and
as
new
information
as
part
of
her
updates,
then
it
would
be
an
item
to
remove
which.
G
Okay
and
finally,
the
tmp
update
this
is
one
I
think
it
was
initiated
by
staff,
but
I
certainly
have
a
keen
interest
in
if
staff
is
starting
well
what
the
status
and
his
staff
starting
a
tnp
update.
So
let's
just
stop
there
and
let
staff
answer
this.
One.
Q
Sure
I
can
speak
to
that.
Yes,
we
are
starting
a
tmp
update,
we'll
be
we
we've
kind
of
started
to
get
underway
internally
as
far
as
staffing
and
and
resourcing
the
team,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now.
I
think
we'll
we'll
be
coming
to
tab,
probably
like
q2,
with
more
information
about
the
kickoff
of
the
process,
but
over
the
next
couple
months
we're
we're
going
to
be
resourcing
the
project.
C
So
I
we're
going
to
get
updated
as
it
happens.
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
this
is
a
separate
agenda
item.
This
is
kind
of
one
of
those
things
like
well.
Yes,
of
course
we
will.
It
will
come
up,
there's
lots
of
stuff
that
will
come
up.
That's
not
on
this
list,
and
so
should
it
stay
on
here
or
not.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
a
reason
to
keep
it.
E
Q
Going
to
say
that
it
was
in
probably
like
q1
q2
of
2018
and
then
it
it
culminated
in
september
of
2019..
It
was
a
a
bit
of
a
shorter
process
because
it
the
initially
when
we
went
into
it,
it
was
going
to
be
a
very
minimal
update
and
that
evolved,
but
we're
giving
ourselves
more
time
this
time
around,
because
we
recognize
that
there
are
more
substantial
updates
that
we
want
to
make.
G
Q
Q
Yeah,
typically,
typically,
the
we've
we've
really
used.
Like
a
you,
know,
a
two-year
process
for
a
more
significant
update
that
last
it
frankly
it
wasn't
enough
time,
and
so,
where
we
eventually
tried
to
end
up.
It
was
a
bit
rushed
okay,
okay,.
G
C
All
right,
unless
we
happen
to
convene
a
beer
meeting
where
we
do
not
talk
about
tab
business,
I
will
see
you
all
next
month.